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What do you think it was?
I want to believe that it was
extra terrestrial, but at the same
time, I'm very skeptical.
Something that's not of this
world or not of this dimension.
Something new, something
big.
Something that could change the
course of human existence.
Welcome to the basement office.
Welcome to Season 2 of the basement
office. We are so excited
to be back, I'm here with Nick Pope
again, who ran the UFO
office in the Ministry of Defense in
the U.K.. Welcome back.
It's great to be back.
A lot's happened.
A lot has happened.
Where we left off in the end of
season one was the mystery
behind these three Navy
videos taken by Navy
fighter pilots.
And ever since then, more and more
details have come out.
Sure. It's like every week
there's a new development here.
We've had since we last
spoke about this.
For example, classified briefings
in Congress about this, various
senators going on the record to say
that they've received these
briefings. Others saying we want
them.
Apparently, some United
States senators have received an
actual briefing on
this UFO phenomenon.
Three more U.S.
senators received a classified
briefing about UFOs.
Key takeaways I've had is that
the U.S.
military and others are taking this
issue seriously, which even
previous generations may not have in
the case.
Oh, sir.
We've had the president go on the
record and respond to questions
about this.
Gave an interview the day what you
said you've been briefed on an
identified flying objects.
Are they are they real?
We have had people saying that
they've seen things.
I'm not a believer, but, you know, I
have an open mind.
Tucker, UFO, UFO,
UFO is UFO a UFO?
It seems like every week something
is happening.
And I'd like to go through some of
these very specific revelations
as of late.
In response to John Greenwald at the
Black Vote, a site dedicated
to unearthing government secrets by
using the Freedom of Information
Act, the Navy released
the specific dates of
these videos.
The specific time
and location was not known before,
and we now know that
the famous Nimitz Tic-Tac
video. The Navy said that that was
November 14th, 2004.
And the other two videos
that go fast in the Gimbel
videos were taken off the East
Coast, specifically
on the 21st of January
2015.
Hundred miles east equidistant
between Jacksonville and Savannah.
So if you look at the map
pinpointed, that's where this stuff
happened.
They also Navy pilots
reported seeing strange lights
almost daily there
off the East Coast, 2014 and
2015. So what you're seeing in this
in that video is
just the tip of the iceberg
because it's been revealed this was
going on almost every day.
Absolutely. The tip of the iceberg
or a tip of the iceberg.
If you'll excuse the pun.
But absolutely.
And one of the other recent
revelations that caught my eye
is the fact that the U.S.
Navy has issued guidance
to pilots and radar operators
saying what to do if they encounter
UAP.
The Navy has admitted that its
pilots encounter unidentified
aircraft so often that
they've had to draft new reporting
guidelines to allow pilots to come
forward.
Now, they confirmed that they
received this guidance, but they
refused to reveal what the guidance
sadly said. That's classified.
Right. Because I feel like a lot of
pilots had no idea what to do.
There was no protocol before.
If you see a UFO,
here's what you do.
It didn't seem to existence of the
Navy has has said
at least that they're going to do
that. Another thing is the Navy has
been pressed and pushed
about what we're
seeing in these videos
because it could be quite a
few things.
And I want to read these specific
statements from the
official Navy spokesman because
their jaw dropping.
Navy spokesman Joe
Gratis here said
the Navy considers the phenomena
contained depicted in
the three videos as unidentified.
This is all about frequent
incursions into our training ranges
by UAP as those
incursions present a safety hazard
to the safe flight of our aviators
and the security of our operations.
So the Navy officially says
this is unknown
unidentified aerial phenomena.
These things are
breaking through flight
zones of our pilots
and are, quote,
creating a safety hazard
for military pilots.
Now, the Navy say
we don't know, but I
know, you know, the president
has now been briefed on this.
He said, so when you briefed the
president on anything, you don't go
in and say, sir, I don't know.
I don't know. Oh, I don't see.
Because the president's next
question is, OK, I get
that you don't know.
But what is your best current
assessment when people are saying,
what is this?
And the Navy say, we don't know.
That's not the right question.
The right question is, what is the
best current assessment that you
must have briefed to the president?
Right.
I mean, here around, for
example, the Nimitz Task
Group, this is some
of the most heavily
monitored and defended
airspace anywhere on this planet.
The idea that something slips
through that air defense net with
impunity, flies around, runs,
rings around these pilots and they
zips out again.
I mean, it's it's the implications
are profound.
Also, in response to a Freedom
of Information Act request, the Navy
has confirmed that they possess
several top secret documents
and at least one classified
video regarding the Nimitz
incident.
The length of the video is unknown
and they would not disclose that.
The version that was leaked online
is around one minute.
But several naval officers from
the Nimitz encounter say that a much
longer video of the encounter
between 8:00.
And minutes long exists,
and I spoke to Ryan Weigel and Jason
Turner, who were stationed on the
USS Princeton during
the nearby Nimitz encounter.
They say they saw the full video
lot as it
happened.
You've seen the clip that is now
public.
Yes, I have.
That video is one minute long.
Are you of the opinion that there
is much more video?
Yes, I am.
I was in charge of H.
Sixty detachment on
small U.S.
Navy ships.
I did a lot of work ups
during this time frame with a lot of
different ship, but in November I
was on the fritz.
The time I was a petty officer,
third class on the USS
Princeton.
What was the Princeton?
A guided missile cruiser.
There were the air controllers for
the Nimitz.
So we were pretty much there.
Air defense, the Nimitz was
in essence, a runway.
The Princeton was the air control
tower.
Correct. So November
14th, 2004,
when did you first notice something
odd was happening?
It was like people were talking on
the ship like something was
happening. We didn't know what.
I noticed that the ship
was they were in a higher tempo.
Something was going on.
I know I was hearing real world
situation a lot around the ship.
So when I asked him if this was real
world, his reply was,
it's real.
What does that mean, real world
situation?
When we're gone through training,
there was exercises that were
happening.
So it either is real world or
it's the exercise, you know.
So when I ask you through what
he said, you didn't know this real
well.
It's not it's not a drill.
Did you see
any live video
coming back from what they were
witnessing?
I did see video.
Yes. I saw it.
And they had combat information
center with one computer that I
was that I saw.
It was directly to my left.
That this video was playing on.
I was in combat information for
a good 10 minutes.
And this whole time, it was playing
out in front of us.
So for 10 minutes, that video
was going.
Yes, it was.
I was in there
about 10, 12 minutes.
And for most of that time, this
thing was playing.
So you're you're there in
this room watching this
on the screen as this happens.
What's going through your mind?
What the hell is this?
What was on the video?
It was a multitude of things.
You know, the one that everybody
sees the minute half of the tech
attack, you do see that.
But there's a lot of in and out like
for the tape just disappears off
the screen.
It's hard to tell like exactly what
this thing was doing.
How did you observe this thing was
moving?
It was.
Erratic.
It would go from point A to point B
at one speed from start to finish,
and then it would stop.
And that's where it would be.
So it wasn't like there was no
buildup or propulsion.
What do you think it was?
I want to believe that it was
extra terrestrial, but at the same
time, I'm very skeptical.
Something that's not of this
world or not of this dimension.
I don't think it's any
secret government technology,
although it wouldn't surprise me if
it was.
I hope it's ours.
And the reason I hope it's ours is
because if we've got that kind of
technology.
Stand by.
And these witness some of these Navy
witnesses and this made
headlines said unknown
individuals.
That's a direct unknown individuals
came aboard a Navy ship
and said, give us the tapes.
In 2004,
the second class petty officer,
an aviation electronics technician
in the Navy on November 14th,
2004.
Where were you?
I was on board the USS Nimitz
during the day. We lost the
aircraft.
That's where my job.
We have to power it up, run all the
systems, send it out the
up the pointy end of the ship and
wait for it to come back.
So I actually know for a fact that
plane is recording.
I'm the one to turn it off before it
ever left the deck.
When those hard drives come back, we
take map because they're classified
hard drive. So we storm and are
safe.
The E to Hawk-Eye comes
back and lands.
You go out and take the data tapes.
Yes.
What would be the equivalent of that
data tapes on the F-18 where our
hard drives and I pulled them out of
the airplane.
And then what happens?
I want to say about 15, 20 minutes
to a half hour after those
came back. My commanding officer
shows up at our door, but with them
were two guys in airforce uniforms,
which we hadn't recognized.
He asked for
the hard drives that were off those
that flight.
And it's six total breaks
that he wanted.
Normal procedures for us to sign
them out to wherever the plane there
go to or whoever is taking them.
No sooner than I started writing, my
commanding officer said, don't worry
about it. Just giving to me.
He took him.
He took that two officers that were
with him and they left.
And I did not see him again.
All I remember is helicopter
coming in and two guys from the Air
Force walking into the hangar bay.
They were in regular flight suits,
but you could tell that they were
Air Force.
They had some bags with them and
they walked right out.
Well, the story we've just heard
from those Navy witnesses mirrors
the urban legend of the so-called
men in black like
the movie with Will Smith.
Right. But for real,
these dark suited individuals
who off to UFO sightings
confiscate any evidence they might
have.
I knew it. This is an alien.
And you guys are from some
government agency trying to keep it
under wraps.
It's part of the phenomenon and
always has been.
And now we're hearing it from these
military witnesses.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you will.
Look right here.
When we look at those three videos,
when we look at the wider phenomenon
that the U.S. Navy has admitted
they are interacting with.
There are basically four options.
Number one, it is some bizarre
combination of pilot
error and radar
glitch, dust on the camera
bug, malfunctioning camera,
all that glare.
Yeah, it's it's just
misidentification.
Option number two is that
it's our own tech.
Some other part of the U.S.
government has developed something.
Drones swarms.
For example, we hear a lot about
these days blind
testing it against the fleet
to see how quickly is it detected on
radar.
How quickly do you get the aircraft
using our own military
unbeknownst to them, to test
something new and see how they
react to it?
Option three is that it's another
country. And realistically, I think
only Russia or China and maybe the
U.K. could develop something like
that, an option for
something else.
Right. And when it comes to
that, something else we know
that Project Blue Book, for example,
investigated that something
else, UFOs, whatever
you want to call them.
And more recently, the Pentagon's
ated program investigated
that. Something else.
I think there's something really
important here that
I want to stress.
A tip was fundamentally different
to Bluebook in a very important way.
When Project Blue Book
back in the 50s and the 60s
looked at the UFO phenomenon,
they were very much an investigation
program.
Know Mr. or Mrs. Smith would see
something in the sky.
They would report it to the Air
Force. The Air Force would send out
people, investigate, check the
radar, type a tip.
Seems to be fundamentally new and
different. What a tip did was say,
look, I'm not particularly
interested in Mr. or Mrs. Smith.
I want to figure out the technology
behind the phenomenon.
When you look, for example, at
the letter that
the Defense Intelligence Agency
sent to Congress about a
list of 38 programs,
that they said it's all
about invisibility,
anti-gravity, wormholes,
warp drive, stargates,
it's all about trying to figure out
the tank.
And I spoke with Eric
Davis, who is actually the
author of one of the eight documents
you just brought up who was
contracted.
He was a temp employee
and wrote one of the
study's research studies of atim.
Listen to what he has to say about
the science behind what we're
looking at.
Well, I'm Eric Davis.
I'm an astrophysicist.
And up until
this this week, I
was the chief science officer at
erturk International Inc.
And the Institute for Advanced
Studies at Austin.
I worked for a period of time as an
outside independent contractor to
the Air Force Research Laboratory
at Edwards Air Force Base.
I'm moving on to a new job at the
Aerospace Corporation in Huntsville,
Alabama.
I'll be working on the nuclear
thermal propulsion program for the
man lunar and manned
Mars missions.
You ultimately worked for
were part of the Pentagon's
UFO program.
Yes, I was.
In what respect were you involved
with it as a consultant
with the Nimitz Tic TAC?
In your opinion?
What are we looking at?
In my opinion, it's not a human
word, not a human construct is
absolutely impossible compared to
modern American
and foreign technologies and
aviation, aerospace science and
engineering. Way beyond that,
we investigate it all about.
We we advise the H program
director on the encounter
data, the witness reports and
so forth and so on.
The Tic-Tac exceeded the
performance of anything we can
produce there, not any kind of
an advanced UAV that the Chinese
or the Russians or the Iranians or
North Korea produce.
There are
light years ahead of anything that
we have there. They have no
physical, external, visible
aeronautical control systems
or aerodynamic control system.
They have no external engine
pylons in cells,
no internal engine pylons
themselves, no infrared heat
signature from an exhaust nozzle
or exhaust plume.
The fact that they are shaped like a
tic tac instead of an aircraft
that we need to move through
gassings atmosphere to produce
lift to keep it afloat in the air.
It could hover.
They can they can move it.
G estimated speeds were well above
market March 26.
That's impossible. The accelerations
that these things underwent would
kill humans.
And we don't have to even have a
robotics technology today
or a computer technology that
operates on autonomous artificial
intelligence control that can
withstand accelerations like that.
Yeah, that kind of technology we
have is too fragile for acceleration
point that people will say that the
tic-tacs, the spheres, whatever
are nothing but
human made top
secret block projects
that being it's being health
withheld from the public.
You don't think that's possible?
We've already checked into that.
There is no no such thing which they
don't exist because there is no
requirements for that type of
technology. First of all, we don't
have that technology right now.
They're not. They can't be human.
Made an astrophysicist
employed by contracted out by the
Pentagon's UFO program
says what you're seeing in these
videos can't be human.
Made in the technology that this
astrophysicist observed
and studied is beyond
all human comprehension, all
human capabilities, all
human possibility.
If there's one single thing
that explains Gellman's secrecy
on UFOs to the race
to be the first nation, to
understand that tag
and to incorporate it into your own
system, it's it's a little bit
of a cliché of mine.
But the nation on earth that first
manages that.
If this is what we're dealing with,
it's going to be the preeminent
nation on this planet for the
foreseeable future, politically,
militarily, economically.
Right. And in pursuit of that
new technology, that cutting
edge technology that some
would say other worldly technology.
We have this
the U.S. Navy, the Department of the
Navy patented
a wild, crazy
electro magnetic plasma
aircraft.
What the heck?
Electro magnetic plasma
machine.
And you'll see.
I mean, this looks
like a tic tac.
Does it not?
Absolutely.
There are no wings, really.
There are no jets.
There are no
traditional
aerodynamic
physical things that you would see
on an aircraft.
The description is one of
electromagnetism, plasma,
plasma manipulation
and distorting
the air and almost,
I guess, space time around the
craft itself.
One particular team of journalists
at the drive there called the war
zone. They have spent
the last year digging into these
patents and have discovered
some pretty fascinating
things, actually spoke with them.
Let's take a look.
I am Brett Tingley.
I'm a freelance writer and
journalist, currently a contributor
for the war zone.
And that's an aviation and
aerospace and defense
news and analysis site.
Before I dove into the patents
themselves.
This is Dr. Salvatore,
a piease.
He's the guy behind these patents.
Correct?
Correct.
He's currently employed by Naval
Strategic Systems Program.
But prior to that, he was employed
by the Naval Air Warfare Center
as an aerospace engineer.
And he conducted
a research project funded by the
Navy into high energy
electromagnetic fields.
And apparently as a result of that
research project, he was able to
get these five patents
approved.
Tell me, how did you get a hold of
him?
And once you did, how did that go?
I've been e-mailing Dr. Pyi since
June and I never heard back
from him.
A few months ago, lo and behold, he
emailed me back.
And as far as I know,
I'm the only journalist he has
responded to that took
me this whole time to get the
Pentagon to allow me to publish
what they allowed me to publish.
He said a little more to me
that they told me I couldn't say.
So you had to clear at the Pentagon?
Yeah.
He apparently is hidden behind all
kinds of nondisclosure agreements,
gag orders.
He's not really allowed to talk to
the press.
But I told them who I was and why I
was writing them.
It was on the record.
He knew I was on the record.
What were the most important things
you learned in your conversation
with Dr. Pace?
I think the most important thing is
that he is a
believer and an advocate of his
own research.
In our correspondence, he
went so far as to call it the police
effect, which
he describes as the controlled
motion of electrified matter,
subjected to acceleration,
deceleration, accelerated transience
and a highly vibrated mode.
What the hell does that mean?
These claims that this can lead
to the enablement of macroscopic
quantum coherence.
In other words, you can kind of
engineer the quantum state
at a macroscopic level
and that results in one
being able to, as he puts it,
engineer the fabric of space time,
engineer the fabric of our reality
at a fundamental level.
Also, he claims it can create these
incredible electromagnetic
fields, which essentially are
a force.
They can deflect missiles, they can
deflect asteroids,
and it can also lead to the
enablement of high temperature or
room temperature superconductors,
which have been like the holy grail
of physics for decades.
Couple of things that are factual
about this patent that I need to
bring up, though, when this patent
was first submitted by the
Department of the Navy, the U.S.
Patent Office denied it.
They rejected the hybrid aerospace
craft and they rejected the
room temperature superconductor.
Why?
The examiner felt that they were
enablement issues and both, in other
words, that they were
not possible based on the
descriptions given based on the
science provided.
But James Shea,
he wrote
a letter saying
these things are operable.
Yes.
Dr. James Sheehy is the chief
technical officer for the Naval
Aviation Enterprise.
So he's one of the lead scientists
behind the Navy's
aviation and aerospace research
endeavors.
He wrote a letter in the case
of both of those rejections to the
U.S. Patent Office, assuring them
that these patents are enabled.
And in the case of the room
temperature superconductor,
operable, enabled
or enablement, according to the U.S.
Patent Office, means it can be
built.
It's possible based on the
description in the patent.
Operable, on the other hand, has a
very different meaning, which means
there is one working,
there is one in operation, at least
one.
When you look at these patents, when
you listen to some of the people who
have been involved in these
programs, it's almost as
if you're dealing with a new
physics here.
Some people believe this
is an attempt
by the government,
the Navy, to say,
okay, there is a technology
behind these UAP
sightings.
We want to replicate that
technology. I mean, replicating the
technology.
I think we would agree is almost the
holy grail of this.
What's striking to me is, is not
only the way you describe
it, these craft, but the way the
patent itself describes
at least the potential of these
craft mimics
the description
of unidentified flying
objects, not only seen specifically
in 2004 by
the USS Nimitz crew,
but other UFO
sightings across the world.
Could this pattern be
a version of what people are seeing?
Some of the patterns, even the
drawings of these patterns
seem to resemble
many of the objects or crafts seen
for decades.
This is a tic tac,
I know.
And that's as soon as I saw
that drawing in the piece,
I was like.
Are they trolling us?
Right. I mean, how how can that
not be described as anything other
than a tic tac shape?
And it's that's the patent for
the gravitational wave generator.
Are you familiar with the Belgian
citing the Belgian way?
Yes, absolutely.
In the famous photo, again,
the similarities between that craft,
the patent.
And black triangles out of Belgium.
It seems like there's a connection
there.
But if you really read about
read into what I use is describing
in these patents, it seems to match
up exactly
with both the Navy sightings and so
many other sightings around the
world. As you mentioned.
Could this be ultimately
what the folks in the Nimitz were
saying?
Absolutely.
The only question, I guess, is
whether the folks on the Nimitz saw
one of our versions
trying to replicate or whether
they saw the original.
What's the chicken and
what's the egg? What's the tic tac?
And what's the patent?
So chicken egg.
Did they. Did they witness
something not human
and then try to replicate
what they observed?
And that's what the patents are
or was what they saw
way back in 2004.
What? You know, the.
They've always something the Navy,
the military has always had and is
just now being public about it.
Yes.
I think the former is way more
interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Within this patent, Nick,
is a description
of these objects capability
to move at fast speeds both
in the air and under the water.
This pice effect can create
an aircraft which can fly through
airspace or water equally
well, completely ignoring
all hydrodynamic and aerodynamic
forces.
That paragraph really stuck out to
me because in season one
you've revealed something to me that
blew my mind.
Let's cut to that clip.
There've been a number of reports of
UFOs emerging from
and and flying back into
the ocean.
Some of these things I've heard them
called uso's
unidentified submerged object.
Just as you think you are beginning
to get a handle on this phenomenon,
there's a new aspect to it.
They could be coming from the ocean.
Put it this way, if
UFO s are extraterrestrial
visitors, any civilization
that has mastered the secrets
of interstellar travel probably
isn't going to be worried by flying
into and out of the water.
So when you take this pattern
that describes a craft that
can fly equally in the air and
in the water, and you combine that
with the Nimitz sighting in 2004
where Navy pilots saw a UFO
just under the water.
And then you look at hundreds
and hundreds of cases around the
world of UFOs
under or above
or near bodies of water.
A bigger mystery begins to emerge.
And on the next episode, we will be
diving deep into USO's
unidentified submerged
objects.
