AT THE TIME, THE MODELLING DATA 
SAID THAT CASES IN THIS COUNTRY 
WERE DOUBLING AT A RATE OF EVERY
16 DAYS, WHICH IS VERY 
ENCOURAGING AT THE TIME.
SO WE'LL GET A LOOK AT WHAT THE 
NATIONAL PICTURE IS RIGHT NOW 
AND HOW WE ARE DOING WITH THAT 
FLATTENING THE CURVE WE HAVE ALL
BEEN WORKING SO HARD ON.
AND OF COURSE THE POTENTIAL FOR 
A SECOND WAVE AND THE KINDS OF 
THINGS THAT PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS ARE MONITORING 
NATIONALLY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE 
A GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT WE NEED 
TO DO TO CONTAIN ANY OTHER 
BREAKOUTS.
AS WE WATCH THE PRIME MINISTER'S
FRONT DOOR THERE FOR HIM TO COME
OUT, I'LL BRING IN MY 
COLLEAGUES, THE HOST OF "POWER &
POLITICS", VASSY KAPELOS AND THE
CBC'S CATHERINE CULLEN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.
WE'LL START WITH THE SENIORS 
PACKAGE, VASSY, BECAUSE I KNOW 
YOU TOO WERE GETTING INUNDATED 
WITH MANY SENIORS TWEETING OR 
EMAILING WHEN EXACTLY IS THIS 
GOING TO HAPPEN.
I THINK WE'LL FIND THAT OUT 
TODAY. 
>> Vassy: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY 
RIGHT, A NUMBER OF SENIORS HAVE 
WRITTEN IN.
THEY WERE WONDERING WHEN THE 
EXACT DATE OF DELIVERY WOULD BE 
BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ARE GETTING
THEIR CHEQUES, FOR EXAMPLE, 
THROUGH OAS OR THE GIS, THE 
GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT'S UP TO $500 IF YOU RECEIVE 
THE GIS.
MY EXPECTATION IS THE MONEY WILL
START BEING DELIVERED THE WEEK 
OF JULY 6.
I IMAGINE THAT WILL BE VERY 
WELCOME NEWS FOR A LOT OF 
SENIORS WHO ARE COUNTING ON THAT
MONEY TO HELP THEM, AND I WOULD 
REMIND OUR VIEWERS, THAT THE 
INTENT IS TO HELP THEM WITH 
THOSE SORT OF INCREMENTAL EXTRA 
COSTS DUE TO THE SHUTDOWN, DUE 
TO THE CLOSING OF SO MANY THINGS
IN THE ECONOMY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU COULDN'T 
TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT ANYMORE, YOU
HAD TO TAKE A TAXI OR AN UBER, 
OR YOU HAD TO GET YOUR GROCERIES
DELIVERED, OR JUST THE SHEER 
COST OF GROCERIES WHICH EVERYONE
KNOWS HAS INCREASED.
THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT
THE GOVERNMENT DESIGNATED FOR 
THAT.
IN THAT VEIN, I WOULD RAISE THE 
OTHER POINT THAT I HAVE HEARD 
FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, A 
NUMBER OF CANADIANS LIVING WITH 
DISABILITIES WHO ARE ALSO 
EXPERIENCING THE SAME RISE IN 
INCREMENTAL COSTS.
THEY ALSO LIVE, SO MANY OF THEM,
OF COURSE, MOST OF THEM ON A 
FIXED INCOME.
THERE ARE SOME SHARED 
JURISDICTION HERE BETWEEN THE 
PROVINCE AND THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY ARE ALSO 
AND THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FROM 
THE START OF THIS PANDEMIC IF 
THEY WILL RECEIVE SOMETHING 
SIMILAR TO WHAT SENIORS GOT, TO 
SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ONE-TIME
PAYMENT THAT WILL HELP THEM WITH
THEIR INCREMENTAL COSTS.
A FEW WEEKS AGO, OR MAYBE 
ACTUALLY THE MIDDLE OF MAY, 
MINISTER QUALTROUGH, THE 
MINISTER FOR BOTH CANADIANS WITH
DISABILITIES AND EMPLOYMENT, HAD
SIGNALLED THAT THERE WAS 
SOMETHING COMING, AND I BELIEVE 
THERE WAS SOME EXCHANGE IN THE 
HOUSE OF COMMONS THAT SAID THERE
COULD BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THAT
BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
I RAISE IT BECAUSE I'VE ALSO 
HEARD FROM SO MANY CANADIANS 
WITH DISABILITIES WHO ARE 
WONDERING ABOUT THAT AND WHETHER
OR NOT THE GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE 
GOOD ON ITS SORT OF SIGNALLING 
THAT SOMETHING IS COMING, AND SO
WE ARE ANTICIPATING SOMETHING 
HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK IN THAT VEIN
AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO ON THE PRIME 
MINISTER'S FRONT AND HIS 
REMARKS, I AM ANTICIPATING SOME 
REMARKS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE 
PREMIERS AND THE CALL, THE 
WEEKLY CALL THAT THEY HAVE THAT 
WILL TAKE PLACE THIS WEEK.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FOCUS 
WILL REALLY BE ON REOPENING THE 
ECONOMY AND QUOTE UNQUOTE A SAFE
RE-START.
OF COURSE ALL OF THAT INVOLVES 
TESTING AND CONTACT TRACING, 
SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND
LISTENED TO FROM VARIOUS EXPERTS
A LOT LATELY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS SO 
SIGNIFICANT AS WE LOOK TOWARDS 
WHAT MIGHT BE COMING, WHAT THIS 
MODELLING MIGHT SHOW US ABOUT 
THE POTENTIAL FOR A SECOND WAVE.
THAT COORDINATION BETWEEN THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE 
PROVINCES, WHERE TESTING AND 
CONTACT TRACING AND BOOSTING 
CAPACITY IS CONCERNED, IS GOING 
TO BE SO SIGNIFICANT.
>> Rosemary: AND WE KNOW THAT 
THE PRIME MINISTER HAS 
PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THAT 
NATIONAL APP THAT HE IS LOOKING 
AT AND THAT DECISION HE 
INDICATED WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE 
SOMETIME AT THE BEGINNING OF 
JUNE IN ORDER TO TAP INTO SOME 
OF THE DATA FROM APPLE AND 
GOOGLE.
MAYBE WORTH ASKING HIM ABOUT 
THAT AS WELL.
I'LL SEND A NOTE TO TOM PERRY 
IMMEDIATELY.
CATHERINE, I KNOW YOU TOO HAVE 
BEEN LOOKING AT THE SENIORS 
BENEFIT BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE 
FRUSTRATING, I THINK, FOR SOME 
SENIORS THAT IT HAS TAKEN THIS 
LONG AND ACTUALLY WILL TAKE 
ANOTHER MONTH TO GET IT TO THEM.
>> Catherine: THAT'S RIGHT.
WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS FIRST 
MADE ON MAY 12 THEY WEREN'T 
GIVEN A PARTICULAR DATE.
AND MY SENSE FROM TALKING WITH 
OFFICIALS IS PERHAPS THIS IS 
TAKING LONGER THAN, FRANKLY, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD LIKE AS
WELL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ACCORDING 
TO VASSY'S REPORTING THERE, 
NEARLY TWO MONTHS TO GET THIS 
MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
I'VE BEEN ASKING OFFICIALS WHY 
IS THAT THE CASE.
I'M TOLD PART OF IT HAS TO DO 
WITH SETTING UP A NEW MECHANISM.
ESSENTIALLY IT'S A TECHNICAL 
ISSUE.
IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY OUT 
THE DOOR TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED 
IT, THEY HAVE TO GET THE 
APPROPRIATE CHECKS AND BALANCES 
IN PLACE, 6.7 SENIORS WAITING 
FOR THIS MONEY, BE IT THE WHOLE 
$500 OR JUST THE OASORTION OF 
THAT.
AND SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY ABOUT THAT
BUT TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW 
THAT INDEED THIS MONEY IS 
COMING.
THE DATABASE THEY ARE WORKING 
WITH, OFFICIALS TELL ME MORE 
THAN HALF A CENTURY OLD FOR OAS,
SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE LOOKING
AT UPDATING BEFORE THIS, BUT 
NOW, LIKE SO MANY OTHER ISSUES 
SURROUNDING COVID-19, HAS BECOME
A PRESSING ISSUE.
NOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, OF 
COURSE, DID RECEIVE THAT GST 
BOOST FOR LOW-INCOME CANADIANS, 
SENIORS OF COURSE WOULD HAVE 
BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT.
BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS 
INDICATED BY MAKING THIS 
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY KNOW THAT
SOME SENIORS, PARTICULARLY 
LOW-INCOME SENIORS, DO NEED THIS
MONEY.
AND YOU AND VASSY HAVE TALKED 
ABOUT THE PEOPLE WRITING TO YOU 
SAYING THAT THIS COULD MAKE AN 
IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE FOR SENIORS
IN CANADA WHO MAY BE FACING 
INCREASED COSTS HAVING TO DO 
WITH GROCERY DELIVERY AND ANY 
OTHER NUMBER OF THINGS AS WELL.
SO WAITING FOR THAT MONEY, AND 
TODAY WE'LL GET A BIT MORE OF AN
EXPLANATION OF WHY IT'S TAKEN SO
LONG AND WHEN THEY MIGHT SEE IT 
IN THEIR ACCOUNTS, ROSIE. 
>> Rosemary: OKAY, I'LL LEAVE 
YOU BOTH THERE FOR JUST ONE 
MOMENT IF YOU DON'T MIND WHILE I
TOUCH ON A TOPIC THAT WE 
DISCUSSED -- WE ASKED THE PRIME 
MINISTER ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO.
HE WAS ON INTERNATIONAL CALLS 
YESTERDAY AND DIDN'T HAVE A 
BRIEFING, BUT IT WAS, OF COURSE,
THE REACTION TO THE RACISM 
PROTESTS IN THE UNITED STATES 
OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST WEEK
OR MORE NOW SINCE THE DEATH OF 
GEORGE FLOYD, WHICH REALLY 
HAVEN'T SLOWED DOWN IN ANY WAY 
IN THE UNITED STATES, ALTHOUGH 
THEY HAVE CALMED DOWN A LITTLE 
BIT.
THEY ARE MUCH MORE PEACEFUL 
BECAUSE OF THE WAY I GUESS THE 
POLICE ARE CHOOSING TO HANDLE 
THINGS IN MANY OF THOSE STATES.
TODAY, THOUGH, MARKS THE FIRST 
OF A NUMBER OF MEMORIALS SET FOR
GEORGE FLOYD.
TODAY WILL BE HAPPENING AT 2 
EASTERN.
WE'LL HAVE SOME COVERAGE OF 
THAT, OF COURSE, ON THIS NETWORK
FOLLOWED BY HIS FUNERAL IN 
HOUSTON LATER THIS WEEK.
BUT IT HAS, OF COURSE, CAUSED 
THIS COUNTRY TO ASK SOME 
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE ARE 
DEALING WITH ANTI-BLACK RACISM 
IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IT'S 
SOMETHING THAT MARIE CLAUDE 
LANDRY HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
SHE'S THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR
THE CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS 
COMMISSION AND SHE'S IN 
SHERBROOKE.
NICE TO SEE YOU. 
>> NICE TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Rosemary: A PLEASURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS 
STRUCK ME OVER THE PAST COUPLE 
OF DAYS IS THE INABILITY FOR 
SOME PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE 
SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY,
AND I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE 
ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS THE 
PREMIER OF QUEBEC.
WHY IS THAT HAPPENING STILL, DO 
YOU THINK?
WHY IS THERE SUCH A RELUCTANCE 
TO ADMIT THAT RACISM IS SYSTEMIC
IN THIS COUNTRY?
>> LET ME SAY THIS FIRST, THAT 
FOR ME I REALLY BELIEVE THAT, 
BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING 
THERE IS NO RACISM IN CANADA, 
IT'S SUCH A BARRIER TO 
ADDRESSING IT.
IT'S A HUGE ISSUE, AND THE FIRST
STEP TO RESOLVE THIS PERVASIVE 
SITUATION IS CERTAINLY TO 
ADMITTING THAT SERIOUS RACISM 
AND SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION 
AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN CANADA.
WE NEED TO LISTEN.
WE NEED TO LEARN AND WE NEED TO 
REFLECT ON OUR WHITE PRIVILEGE.
THIS IS KEY.
>> Rosemary: AND SO JUST TO GO 
BACK TO -- MAYBE YOU COULD 
EXPLAIN TO SOME PEOPLE THAT 
STILL DON'T GET THAT CONCEPT OF 
SYSTEMIC RACISM.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO 
PEOPLE?
HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, IF I'M GOING TO IN 
THE STORE, IN THE DRUG STORE OR 
IN THE GROCERY OR SOME 
RESTAURANTS AS A WHITE WOMAN OR 
FOR A WHITE MAN, THEY WILL NOT 
BE FOLLOWED OR TARGETED OR THE 
BEHAVIOUR WILL BE DIFFERENT.
AND IT'S OBVIOUS.
IT'S NOT THE SAME THING FOR A 
WHITE PERSON, AND I THINK THAT 
THIS -- WE'RE SEEING THAT AS 
WELL IN THE EMPLOYMENT AND THE 
NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO CAN 
REACH EXECUTIVE FUNCTION OR 
HIGHER JOBS.
IT'S EVERYWHERE.
RACISM IN CANADA IS EVERYWHERE, 
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE 
NEED TO THINK ABOUT, QUESTION 
OURSELF.
WE NEED TO QUESTION OUR OWN 
BEHAVIOUR, OUR OWN -- AND ALSO 
TO SPEAK OUT WHEN WE'RE SAYING 
SOMETHING AROUND THE TABLE, AS 
AN EXAMPLE, IF WE ARE PART OF A 
DISCUSSION AND SOMEONE HAS A 
BEHAVIOUR WHERE THEY HAVE RACIST
ARGUMENTS.
THEN WE NEED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT 
THAT.
WE CANNOT REMAIN SILENT.
SILENCE MAKES US COMPLICIT OF 
WHAT'S GOING ON. 
>> Rosemary: SO WHAT HAPPENS, 
THEN, WHEN A LEADER, A PUBLIC 
FIGURE, LIKE THE PREMIER OF 
QUEBEC, FOR INSTANCE, DENIES 
THAT THERE IS SYSTEMIC RACISM?
WHAT ARE -- HOW CHALLENGING, 
THEN, IS IT FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU
WHO'S BATTLING THIS EVERY DAY, 
TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS, TO 
UNDO THOSE IDEAS GIVEN THE 
PLATFORM THAT HE HAS?
>> AS A NATIONAL INSTITUTION FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS LEADER, IT'S NOT MY
PLACE TO COMMENT ON ANY COMMENTS
FROM POLITICIAN OR PEOPLE.
WHAT I SHOULD SAY AND WHAT I 
KEEP SAYING IS THERE IS RACISM 
AND SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION IN 
CANADA AS EVERYWHERE IN THE 
WORLD, AND WE NEED TO ADMIT IT.
WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
IF WE ARE NOT DOING IT, WE WILL 
NEVER RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, AND 
IT'S AN HISTORIC MOMENT IN THE 
WORLD WHERE EVERYONE GETS 
TOGETHER TO SAY THERE IS RACISM.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, WE NEED TO 
ADDRESS WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S NOT NORMAL THAT SOMEONE 
SHOULD BE OR WOULD BE TARGETED 
BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OF THEIR 
SKIN.
IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RACISM,
WE JUST HAVE TO READ THE STUDY 
IN MONTREAL ABOUT RACIAL 
PROFILING.
WE JUST HAVE TO READ THE STUDY 
OF THE ONTARIO HUMAN RIGHTS 
COMMISSION ABOUT RACIAL 
PROFILING.
THERE IS ONE, AS WELL, IN NOVA 
SCOTIA.
HOW CAN WE SAY THAT THERE IS NO 
RACISM IN CANADA?
>> Rosemary: ONE OF THE THINGS 
THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE 
CONVERSATION IS HOW POLICE ARE 
FUNDED IN THIS COUNTRY.
DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A 
RE-EXAMINATION OF HOW MUCH MONEY
POLICE ARE GIVEN IN CITIES AND 
WHETHER THAT IS THE RIGHT PLACE 
FOR THAT MONEY TO GO GIVEN THAT 
WE'VE ALSO DONE NUMEROUS 
INVESTIGATIONS HERE AT THE CBC 
ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WITH MENTAL 
HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE 
PROBLEMS ARE USUALLY NOT HANDLED
PROPERLY BY POLICE?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S MY 
JOB TO COMMENT ON HOW THEY FUND 
POLICE.
WHAT I SHOULD SAY IS WE ALL NEED
TO HAVE A CLOSE LOOK ON HOW WE 
BEHAVE, AND WE ALL NEED TO 
LEARN -- WE ALL NEED TO READ 
ABOUT THE HISTORY OF BLACK 
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND 
EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW -- 
BUILD THIS COUNTRY, AND WE NEED 
TO ASK OURSELVES VERY DIFFICULT 
AND UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, ROSEMARY, I ASK BLACK 
PEOPLE IN MY OWN FAMILY, HOW 
COME I SHOULD EXPLAIN TO MY 
GRANDSON AND MY DAUGHTER THAT 
THEY SHOULD TAKE CARE, THEY 
SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHEN THEY ARE 
WALKING BACK FROM SCHOOL, THEY 
SHOULD BEHAVE IN ANOTHER WAY 
WHILE I THINK THAT THE SOCIETY 
NEEDS TO CHANGE.
WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL LOOK AT 
HOW WE BEHAVE TOWARDS BLACK 
PEOPLE.
>> Rosemary: HAS THE CANADIAN 
GOVERNMENT DONE ENOUGH TO DEAL 
WITH ANTI-BLACK RACISM?
>> WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER 
TO DO MORE ABOUT ANTI-BLACK 
RACISM.
WE ALL NEED TO DO MORE TO BE 
AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE ALL NEED TO BE UNITED TO 
ADDRESS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY, 
AND IT STARTS BY ACKNOWLEDGING 
THAT WE HAVE RACISM IN CANADA, 
AND WE NEED TO QUESTION HOW WE 
ARE DEALING WITH IT.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, MARIE-CLAUDE 
LANDRY, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE
TIME.
I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Rosemary: CHIEF COMMISSIONER 
OF THE CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS 
COMMISSION.
>>> WE ARE STANDING BY TO WAIT 
FOR THE PRIME MINISTER TO COME 
OUT AND GIVE US HIS DAILY 
BRIEFING, TODAY EXPECTING HIM TO
TALK AS WE WERE DISCUSSING THERE
ABOUT WHEN SENIORS CAN EXPECT 
THAT ONE-TIME TOP-UP, EITHER 
THEIR OLD AGE SECURITY 
SUPPLEMENT BENEFIT OR TO THE 
GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT AS 
WELL AS THEY RECEIVE BOTH.
THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $500, 
$300 IF IT'S JUST THE OAS.
BUT LET ME BRING BACK MY 
COLLEAGUES, VASSY AND CATHERINE,
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT 
THE MODELLING PICTURE WHICH WE 
ARE GOING TO GET AT NOON.
SO THERE WAS INITIALLY A LOT OF 
PRESSURE ON THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO GET THOSE NUMBERS 
RELEASED.
EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY HAD ENOUGH 
FROM THE PROVINCES TO GIVE A 
PICTURE OF THINGS, THEY GAVE US 
ONE.
AND THE LAST ONE WE GOT WAS AT 
THE END OF APRIL.
YEAH, I THINK THE END OF APRIL.
AND AT THAT TIME IT SHOWED 
REALLY THAT THE CASES WERE 
SLOWING DOWN IN A SIGNIFICANT 
WAY.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE THAT, OF 
COURSE, IS THAT ONTARIO REMAINS 
PROBLEMATIC.
WE'VE GOT TWO MINUTES UNTIL THE 
PRIME MINISTER COMES OUT, BUT 
THAT ONTARIO REMAINS 
PROBLEMATIC, VASSY.
SO I WONDER IF IT WILL BE A 
NATIONAL PICTURE THAT IS VERY 
ENCOURAGING BUT MAYBE DOESN'T 
REFLECT EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN ONTARIO WHERE WE ARE REALLY 
STILL STUCK IN PHASE ONE OF HOW 
WE'RE REOPENING.
>> Vassy: YEAH, AND I THINK, 
ACTUALLY, IT WILL BE INTERESTING
TO SEE IF IT CAN REFLECT THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK THE DIFFERENCES,
PARTICULARLY BETWEEN ONTARIO AND
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, BUT 
ONTARIO AND YOU COULD ALMOST 
GROUP QUEBEC AT CERTAIN POINTS 
INTO THAT AS WELL, HAVE BECOME 
ACCENTUATED OVER THE PAST FEW 
WEEKS, AND DEFINITELY SINCE THAT
LAST MODELLING SCENARIO WAS 
PRESENTED BY THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT AND BY FEDERAL PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS.
SO WHEREAS WE HAVE SEEN AND 
YOU'VE SHOWN MANY TIMES ON THIS 
SHOW, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A 
HUNDRED CASES IN THE REST OF 
CANADA, WE'RE STILL SEEING 
NEARLY 400 NEW CASES A DAY IN 
ONTARIO ALONE.
AND I WONDER TO WHAT DEGREE THAT
AFFECTS THE OVERALL CURVE IN THE
COUNTRY AND HOW MUCH WEIGHT WE 
CAN THEN PUT ON THE NATIONAL 
PICTURE BECAUSE IT TRULY IS, 
NOW, TWO VERY DIFFERENT STORIES,
DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
AND I THINK THERE ARE -- YOU 
KNOW, I'M KEEN TO SEE IT.
I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO
ATTACH THE CAVEAT AROUND IT THAT
IT IS NOT A CRYSTAL BALL AND 
THOSE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS 
HAVE TOLD US OVER AND OVER AGAIN
IT'S NOT GOING TO TELL US 
EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 
IN TWO WEEKS, BUT I AM 
INTERESTED TO SEE A REFLECTION 
ON SORT OF THAT ACCENTUATED 
DIFFERENCE IN AREAS OF THE 
COUNTRY AND WHAT THAT MEANS 
GOING AHEAD, AND ESPECIALLY AS 
WE GEAR OUR MINDS OVER TO THE 
POSSIBILITY OF A SECOND WAVE, 
WHICH COULD BE JUST A FEW MONTHS
AWAY, OR THREE MONTHS AWAY 
MAYBE, LET'S SAY.
WHAT DO THINGS LOOK LIKE AS WE 
TRACK TOWARDS THAT AND HOW MUCH 
WILL CONTACT TRACING AND 
TESTING, YOU KNOW, MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE 
SEEING NOW. 
>> Rosemary: YEAH, AND I SHOULD 
TELL PEOPLE IN THE REST OF THE 
COUNTRY, IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING
AS CLOSELY AS PEOPLE LIVING IN 
ONTARIO ARE, THEY DID EXTEND THE
STATE OF EMERGENCY IN THIS 
PROVINCE, AGAIN TO THE END OF 
THE MONTH, WHICH MEANS THAT 
REALLY VERY LITTLE HAS CHANGED 
IN THIS PROVINCE COMPARED TO 
SOME OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTRY
WHERE THERE'S A VERY CAREFUL BUT
VAST REOPENING OF THE ECONOMY 
THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN 
ONTARIO, REALLY IN ANY 
SIGNIFICANT WAY AT ALL, IN PART 
BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CASES.
I THINK WE'RE STILL AT MORE THAN
300 TODAY.
AND THAT MAKES IT CHALLENGING.
I'LL BRING YOU IN, CATHERINE, 
KNOWING I MIGHT HAVE TO CUT YOU 
OFF.
THAT MAKES IT CHALLENGING FOR 
THE PROVINCE TO REOPEN, EVEN AS 
WE SEE OTHER PROVINCES GOING 
FORWARD, AGAIN IN A CAUTIOUS 
WAY, BUT MOVING FORWARD PRETTY 
AGGRESSIVELY.
>> AND WHEN WE DO LOOK AT THESE 
MODELLING PROJECTIONS, ROSEMARY,
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT 
BECAUSE THE PRIME MINISTER IS 
STEPPING OUT THE DOOR.
WE CAN TOUCH ON THAT WHEN HE'S 
DONE.
>> Rosemary: THANKS FOR THAT, 
CATHERINE.
HERE'S THE PRIME MINISTER NOW.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: GOOD 
MORNING, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
EARLIER TODAY CANADA TOOK PART 
IN A CONFERENCE HOSTEDLY THE 
UNITED KINGDOM.
GAVI DOES INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT 
WORK AROUND THE GLOBE, 
DELIVERING VACCINES TO SOME OF 
THE WORLD'S MOST VULNERABLE.
THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN HELPING 
DEVELOPED COUNTRIES RESPOND TO 
OUTBREAKS LIKE COVID-19.
GAVI SAVES LIVES, AND CANADA IS 
DOING ITS PART.
NOW I WANT TO TURN TO WHAT IS 
HAPPENING LATER TODAY.
THIS AFTERNOON WE WILL BE 
RELEASING NEW MODELLING ON 
COVID-19 IN CANADA.
WE WILL HAVE MORE DETAILS THEN, 
BUT FOR NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FOR THESE 
PROJECTIONS.
THE DATA SHOWS THAT WE ARE 
CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS IN 
THE FIGHT AGAINST THIS VIRUS.
IN MANY COMMUNITIES, THE NUMBER 
OF NEW CASES IS LOW AND WE CAN 
TRACE WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
THAT'S AN ENCOURAGING SIGN THAT 
THE VIRUS IS SLOWING AND IN SOME
PLACES EVEN STOPPING.
BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS.
THE PANDEMIC IS STILL 
THREATENING THE HEALTH AND 
SAFETY OF CANADIANS.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND 
ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE WE 
CONTINUE TO SEE LARGE NUMBERS OF
CASES, OF NEW CASES, AS WELL AS 
IN PLACES LIKE LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES AND SENIORS HOMES, 
THE SITUATION REMAINS SERIOUS.
SO WHILE WE START LOOSENING SOME
RESTRICTIONS, WE ALSO HAVE TO 
STRENGTHEN OTHER MEASURES, LIKE 
TESTING AND CONTACT TRACING.
AND AS PEOPLE HEAD BACK TO WORK,
IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE
KEEP A TWO-METRE DISTANCE FROM 
OTHERS, WASH OUR HANDS AND WEAR 
A MASK WHERE PHYSICAL DISTANCING
IS NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS KEY TO KEEPING US SAFE 
AND KEEPING THE SITUATION UNDER 
CONTROL.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
LATER TODAY WE WILL BE MAKING 
PUBLIC THE LATEST PROJECTIONS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE DATA 
SHOW THAT WE ARE CLEARLY SLOWING
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY.
BUT WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS 
YET.
COVID-19 IS STILL A THREAT TO 
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS.
THE SITUATION REMAINS SERIOUS, 
PARTICULARLY IN REGIONS WHERE 
THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW CASES, 
AND IN LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES
AND SENIORS HOMES.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STARTING TO
REOPEN THE ECONOMY TO A CERTAIN 
EXTENT, WE MUST TIGHTEN UP OTHER
ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS CONTRACT 
TRACING AND TESTING.
AS PEOPLE RETURN TO WORK THAT 
WILL BECOME EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
WE WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WASH
OUR HANDS, KEEP A TWO-METRE 
DISTANCE FROM OTHERS AND WEAR A 
MASK WHERE PHYSICAL DISTANCING 
IS NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE WILL OR MAY 
LOSE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE IF 
WE DON'T, AND THUS WE MUST 
CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS.
EVEN IF WE'RE STARTING TO REOPEN
THE ECONOMY NOW, OUR PARENTS AND
GRANDPARENTS MUST CONTINUE TO 
STAY HOME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
CONFINEMENT HAS AN IMPACT ON 
THEIR MENTAL HEALTH, ON THEIR 
PERSONAL FINANCES, AND THEIR 
QUALITY OF LIFE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
-- FIRST STARTED OUR SENIORS 
COULD COUNT ON A STRONG PUBLIC 
PENSION SYSTEM FOR STEADY 
INCOME.
THE CANADA PENSION PLAN, OLD AGE
SECURITY AND THE GUARANTEED 
INCOME SUPPLEMENT WERE OUR FIRST
LINE OF DEFENCE.
BUT OVER TIME, THIS PANDEMIC HAS
MADE LIFE MORE EXPENSIVE.
SENIORS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO 
TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO TO 
A STORE OR SHOP THE SALES 
BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS.
INSTEAD, THEY HAVE HAD TO RELY 
ON DELIVERIES TO GET THINGS THEY
NEED, AND IT ADDS UP.
AND WHAT MAKES THINGS EVEN 
HARDER IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS 
THE NEW NORMAL FOR MANY OF THEM,
AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
EVEN AS WE START TO REOPEN PARTS
OF THE ECONOMY, MANY SENIORS 
WILL HAVE TO STAY HOME FOR 
LONGER TO PROTECT THEIR HEALTH.
AND THAT'S REALLY WEIGHING ON 
THEM.
SO OUR GOVERNMENT STEPPED UP TO 
HELP THEM WEATHER THIS STORM.
IN APRIL, MORE THAN 4 MILLION 
LOW-INCOME SENIORS RECEIVED A 
GST CREDIT TOP-UP WORTH AN 
AVERAGE OF $375 FOR PEOPLE WHO 
ARE SINGLE AND $510 FOR COUPLES,
AUTOMATICALLY IN THEIR BANK 
ACCOUNTS.
THIS WAS A FIRST STEP.
WE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT PEOPLE 
RECEIVING OLD AGE SECURITY WOULD
GET AN EXTRA $300 TO OFFSET SOME
OF THE EXTRA COSTS THEY'VE HAD 
TO COVER BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS 
AND TO GIVE EVEN MORE SUPPORT TO
LOW-INCOME SENIORS WE SAID THAT 
SENIORS ON THE GUARANTEED INCOME
SUPPLEMENT WOULD GET AN 
ADDITIONAL $200.
THAT MEANS IF YOU'RE ON ONE OF 
THE TWO -- IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE
2.2 MILLION ELDERS RECEIVING 
BOTH OAS AND GIS, YOU WILL GET 
AN ADDITIONAL $500 TO HELP YOU 
WITH EVERYDAY EXPENSES.
AND TODAY I CAN CONFIRM THAT YOU
WILL BE GETTING THAT MONEY THE 
WEEK OF JULY 6.
THIS COVID CRISIS IS TOUGH ON 
SENIORS, AND THAT'S WHY THESE 
ADDITIONAL FUNDS WILL MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE WITH UP TO $900 FOR 
SINGLE SENIORS AND UP TO $1500 
FOR COUPLES.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
SINCE THIS CRISIS BEGAN, WE HAVE
TAKEN A NUMBER OF STEPS TO HELP 
SENIORS WITH THEIR DAILY 
EXPENSES.
IN APRIL, MORE THAN 4 MILLION 
SENIORS WITH A LOW INCOME 
RECEIVED MORE MONEY DIRECTLY 
INTO THEIR BANK ACCOUNT WHEN WE 
PROVIDED GST CREDIT TOP-UPS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $375 ON 
AVERAGE FOR SINGLE SENIORS AND 
$510 FOR COUPLES.
WE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT WE WOULD 
PROVIDE AN EXTRA $300 TO PEOPLE 
ON OAS AND AN ADDITIONAL $200 TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO ON THE 
GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT.
AND TODAY I CAN CONFIRM THAT 
PEOPLE WILL RECEIVE THAT MONEY 
IN THE WEEK OF JULY 6.
SO IN ALL, BECAUSE OF THIS 
CRISIS, SENIORS ALONE COULD 
RECEIVE UP TO $900 AND COUPLES 
COULD RECEIVE UP TO $1500.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE 
SUPPORTING PROGRAMS AND 
ORGANIZATIONS THAT IMPROVE THE 
QUALITY OF LIFE OF SENIORS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE INVESTING IN
THE NEW HORIZONS PROGRAM TO 
ALLOW AFFILIATED ORGANIZATIONS 
TO ADJUST THEIR SERVICES TO THE 
REALITIES OF THE PANDEMIC AND 
HELP PEOPLE TO STAY IN CONTACT 
WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING FUNDING TO
PARTNERS SUCH AS THE UNITED WAY,
COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP, AND THE 
RED CROSS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL 
SERVICES TO VULNERABLE SENIORS.
NOW AS WE'RE LOOKING TO REOPEN 
THE ECONOMY, WE MUST NOT FORGOT 
THAT WE'RE NOT ALL IN THE SAME 
CIRCUMSTANCES.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING 
ELDERS, WILL HAVE TO REMAIN 
VIGILANT AND FOLLOW THE SPECIFIC
PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE IN ORDER TO
PROTECT THEIR HEALTH.
AND OUR GOVERNMENT WILL BE THERE
TO SUPPORT THEM.
LATER TONIGHT I WILL BE TALKING 
TO THE PREMIERS OF THE PROVINCES
AND TERRITORIES AT OUR DAILY -- 
AT OUR WEEKLY CALL.
WE WILL BE CONTINUING THE 
DISCUSSIONS WE BEGAN LAST WEEK 
ON REOPENING THE ECONOMY SAFELY,
INCLUDING FUNDING THAT WAS 
ANNOUNCED FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES
EARLIER THIS WEEK.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING 
WITH US.
[No Interpretation]
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
FIRST QUESTION, BLOOMBERG, LINE 
OPEN.
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING, PRIME
MINISTER.
YOU'VE DELAYED THE DECISION ON 
WHETHER TO BAN HUAWEI FROM 
CANADA'S 5G NETWORKS.
ALL OF OUR FIVE EYES ALLIES HAVE
DONE IT.
CANADIAN COMPANIES ARE DECIDING 
NOT TO WORK WITH THEM.
ARE YOU DELAYING THIS BECAUSE 
YOU'RE AFRAID OF XI JINGPING?
YES OR NO. 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: EVERY
STEP OF THE WAY WE HAVE LISTENED
TO OUR SECURITY AGENCIES, OUR 
INTELLIGENCE SERVICES, WORKED 
WITH OUR ALLIES.
WE WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION 
FOR CANADIANS TO BOTH KEEP 
CANADIANS AND BUSINESSES SAFE 
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ENSURING 
COMPETITIVENESS IN OUR TELECOM 
INDUSTRY.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE HAVE
BEEN FOLLOWING THE 
RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR 
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND OTHER 
EXPERTS.
WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR 
COLLEAGUES RIGHT AROUND THE 
WORLD ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN 
PROTECT CANADIANS AND BUSINESSES
WHILE REMAINING COMPETITIVE IN 
THE TELECOM SECTOR.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: YOU SPENT A LOT OF 
TIME CAMPAIGNING FOR A SPOT FOR 
CANADA ON THE UN SECURITY 
COUNCIL.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT 
CANADA'S TOO CLOSE TO THE U.S. 
TO GET A SEAT AND WILL SIMPLY 
PROMOTE THE AMERICAN AGENDA.
IS IT FAIR TO CONSIDER CANADA AN
AMERICAN TROJAN HORSE AT THE UN?
YES OR NO. 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED OVER 
THE PAST YEARS WITH OUR DEEP 
COMMITMENT TO MULTILATERALISM, 
OUR COMMITMENT TO PROGRESSIVE 
TRADE IN THIS ERA OF 
GLOBALIZATION.
WE HAVE BECOME THE ONLY G7 
COUNTRY THAT HAS A FREE TRADE 
DEAL WITH EVERY SINGLE OTHER G7 
COUNTRY.
WE KNOW THAT ENGAGING AROUND THE
WORLD IS IMPORTANT BOTH FOR 
CANADIANS' HEALTH AND 
WELL-BEING, BUT ALSO FOR THE 
GOOD OF OUR ECONOMY.
WE HAVE DONE THAT CONSISTENTLY.
OVER THE PAST YEARS I'VE BEEN 
STEPPING UP ON DRAWING TOGETHER 
QUESTIONS AROUND FINANCING FOR 
DEVELOPMENT IN SMALL ISLAND 
DEVELOPING STATES AND IN AFRICA.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT CANADIANS 
HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND WILL 
CONTINUE TO DO BECAUSE WE KNOW 
THAT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
EVEN AS SOME OF OUR ALLIES, 
INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES, 
SEEM TO WITHDRAW FROM THE WORLD,
CANADA IS ENGAGING IN STRONG AND
CONFIDENT WAYS AS CANADIANS 
EXPECT US TO.
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[No Interpretation]
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: THANK YOU, GOOD 
MORNING, PRIME MINISTER.
YOUR LONG SILENCE ON TUESDAY 
CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BE 
TALKING AND SPECULATING ABOUT 
WHAT IT MEANT.
COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
I THINK EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT 
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE UNITED 
STATES WITH TREMENDOUS CONCERN 
AND ANXIETY, AND WE WILL 
CONTINUE BOTH TO FOLLOW WHAT'S 
HAPPENING IN THE U.S., BUT ALSO 
TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN AND MUST 
DO IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.
CANADIANS ARE FACING 
DISCRIMINATION EVERY SINGLE DAY,
AND WE NEED TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT
THERE TO RESPOND TO THE 
CHALLENGES THEY FACE.
AND THAT MEANS WORKING ALL 
TOGETHER TO BE BETTER ALLIES, 
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.
[ End of Interpretation ]
CANADIANS CONTINUE TO WATCH WITH
CONSTERNATION AND HORROR WHAT'S 
GOING ON IN THE UNITED STATES 
RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT CAN'T KEEP 
US FROM LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY 
AT OUR OWN SYSTEMS AND THE WORK 
THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE 
THAT THE MILLIONS OF CANADIANS 
WHO FACE DISCRIMINATION AND 
TOLERANCE EVERY SINGLE DAY IN 
THEIR LIVED REALITY GET BETTER 
SUPPORT, HAVE CANADIANS COME 
FORWARD AS ALLIES, HAVE A 
GOVERNMENT THAT CONTINUES TO 
WORK WITH THEM TO BREAK DOWN 
BARRIERS AND MAKE SURE THAT 
EVERYONE IS TREATED WITH RESPECT
AND GIVEN ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES 
THAT OTHERS HAVE.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: A LOT OF PEOPLE 
INTERPRETED YOUR INTENSE AS A 
NON-VERBAL DENUNCIATION OF 
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
IS THAT THE CASE? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
I THINK CANADIANS EXPECT THAT I 
BE THERE TO DEFEND THEIR 
INTERESTS AND THEIR VALUES.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE IN 
RELATION TO THE UNITED STATES 
AND IN RELATION TO EVERY COUNTRY
AROUND THE GLOBE, AND I WILL 
CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
[ End of Interpretation ]
CANADIANS EXPECT A PRIME 
MINISTER TO STAND UP FOR THEIR 
VALUES AND THEIR INTERESTS.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE MY ENTIRE 
TIME AS PRIME MINISTER, WHETHER 
IT BE WITH THE UNITED STATES OR 
WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE 
WORLD.
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION?
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[No Interpretation]
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: THANK YOU, GOOD 
MORNING, MR. TRUDEAU.
WITH ABOUT THE ARMY IN THE 
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES, YOU 
SET A DEADLINE.
NOW CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER 
YOU'VE MADE A DECISION AND 
WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO EXTEND 
THAT DEADLINE?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
I FIRST WANT TO REASSURE SENIORS
IN QUEBEC THAT THE GOVERNMENT 
WILL BE THERE FOR THEM.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE RIGHT FROM 
THE BEGINNING WITH THE ARMY.
WE ARE STILL THERE, AND WE WILL 
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HELP AND 
SUPPORT IN VARIOUS WAYS SO THAT 
WE CAN GET THROUGH THESE TOUGH 
TIMES.
THE DISCUSSIONS ARE STILL UNDER 
WAY WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF 
QUEBEC AS TO HOW CANADA CAN 
HELP, BUT WE WILL BE THERE.
>> FOLLOW-UP, MELANIE?
>> Reporter: BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS
YOUR OFFER?
TO SEND IN FEWER SOLDIERS?
OR TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL 
MONTHS OF HELP FROM THE ARMY? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
OUR PRIORITY IS TO ENSURE THAT 
SENIORS IN QUEBEC ARE PROPERLY 
PROTECTED AND ARE RECEIVING THE 
CARE THAT ARE NECESSARY, THAT IS
NECESSARY DURING THIS PANDEMIC 
AND THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION.
CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT 
QUEBEC, TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THE
SITUATION IN THOSE CENTRES AND 
OF THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN 
DISCUSSION WITH THE PROVINCE AS 
TO THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH 
THAT.
[ End of Interpretation ]
WE WILL ENSURE THAT ELDERS IN 
QUEBEC ARE GIVEN THE PROTECTION 
AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE.
WE ARE THERE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HELP OUT.
WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW 
WITH THE PROVINCE OF QUEBEC ON 
HOW WE CAN BEST HELP AS WE MOVE 
FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT ALL 
SENIORS IN QUEBEC ARE PROPERLY 
CARED FOR.
>> Operator: LAST QUESTION, 
ANDREA GUN, THE CHRONICLE 
HERALD.
LINE OPEN.
>> Reporter: HI, THERE, PRIME 
MINISTER.
THE NOVA SCOTIA GOVERNMENT IS 
SAYING THAT THEY WILL COMPLETE 
AN INQUIRY, A PUBLIC INQUIRY 
INTO THE SHOOTING THAT OCCURRED 
IN APRIL, BUT ONLY IF THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAUNCHES IT 
AND TAKES A LEAD ON IT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR 
GOVERNMENT IS PREPARED TO DO? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
HAVE BEEN IN VERY CLOSE 
CONVERSATION WITH THE PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT ON THIS.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT NOVA SCOTIANS 
AND INDEED ALL CANADIANS HAVE 
SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED.
THE RCMP IS CONTINUING ITS 
DETAILED INVESTIGATION INTO THE 
EVENTS, BUT THERE ALSO NEEDS TO 
BE A LARGER REVIEW.
CANADA WILL WORK WITH NOVA 
SCOTIA ON ENSURING THAT IT 
HAPPENS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
>> AS A FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: SO YOU'RE 
COMMITTING TO DOING SOME SORT OF
PUBLIC OR A REVIEW WITH THE 
PROVINCE ON THIS? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
KNOW PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS THAT 
NEED ANSWERING.
WE WILL WORK WITH NOVA SCOTIA TO
MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: THERE ARE A NUMBER 
OF PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZED YOUR 
SILENCE.
NOW MR. BLANCHET WAS SAYING YOU 
HAVE NO BACKBONE.
SOME PEOPLE SAYING IT'S 
HYPOCRITICAL, AND SOME PEOPLE 
ARE SAYING SILENCE IS NO GOOD.
YOU HAVE TO STAND UP AND DEFEND 
PEOPLE.
AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT 
WOULDN'T TAKE ME 20 SECONDS TO 
DENOUNCE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WHY CAN YOU NOT DENOUNCE WHAT IS
CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE 
UNITED STATES WHEN THE BLACK 
COMMUNITY NEEDS ALLIES?
YOU SAY YOU'RE AN ALLY, BUT ALL 
YOU'RE GIVING THEM IS SILENCE.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT 
AND STAND UP FOR ALL MINORITIES 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND 
ACROSS THE WORLD.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE 
AND WE WILL ALWAYS DO.
MY JOB AS A PRIME MINISTER IS TO
DEFEND CANADIAN VALUES AND TO 
STAND UP FOR OUR PRINCIPLES, BUT
AT THE SAME TIME PROTECT THE 
INTERESTS OF ALL CANADIANS AND 
HELP CANADIANS, AND THAT'S WHAT 
I ALWAYS DO.
AS A GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE DONE A 
GREAT DEAL BY WORKING WITH THE 
BLACK COMMUNITY HERE IN CANADA, 
BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO DO, 
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK.
[ End of Interpretation ]
MY JOB AS PRIME MINISTER IS TO 
STAND UP FOR CANADIANS' VALUES, 
TO EXPRESS THOSE VALUES AND TO 
ENSURE THAT I'M STANDING UP FOR 
CANADIANS' INTERESTS AS WELL AND
DEFENDING THOSE INTERESTS.
I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
IN REGARDS TO DEFENDING 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS AND 
SUPPORTING PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE
WORLD IN THE FIGHT AGAINST 
RACISM, I WILL CONTINUE TO DO 
THAT.
WE HAVE DONE MUCH HAND IN HAND 
WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY OVER 
THESE PAST YEARS ON SUPPORTING 
THEM, ON REDUCING BARRIERS, BUT 
WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS MUCH MORE 
TO DO HERE IN CANADA RIGHT 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT 
WORK.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE
STANDING UP FOR THEM, BUT IT'S 
THROUGH YOUR SILENCE.
NOW IS THAT BECAUSE OF YOUR 
CONCERN ABOUT OFFENDING THE 
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?
MAYBE SAYING THE WRONG THING 
THAT MIGHT IRRITATE THE 
PRESIDENT AND THAT THAT COULD 
LEAD TO REPERCUSSIONS ON THE 
BORDER OR FREE TRADE?
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE AFRAID OF?
ARE YOU AFRAID YOU MIGHT MAKE 
SOME OFFENSIVE COMMENTS, LIKE AT
THE G7, THAT WOULD UPSET OUR 
NEIGHBOUR TO THE SOUTH?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: MY 
JOB IS TO DEFEND CANADIANS AND 
ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR
WITH THE VALUES OF ALL CANADIANS
HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING AND 
THAT'S WHAT I WILL ALWAYS DO.
[ End of Interpretation ]
-- STAND UP FOR CANADIANS' 
WELL-BEING AND CANADIANS' 
INTERESTS WHILE MAKING IT VERY 
CLEAR WHAT CANADIANS' VALUES 
ARE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE DONE. 
>> Reporter: VIDEO EMERGED THIS 
WEEK OF AN RCMP OFFICER IN 
NUNAVUT DRIVING HIS TRUCK INTO 
AN INUK MAN.
THAT FOLLOWS A PATTERN OF POLICE
BRUTALITY IN THE PROVINCE WITH 
THREE POLICE-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS 
AND TWO FATALITIES SINCE 
FEBRUARY.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THE 
VIDEO IN PARTICULAR AND WHO 
SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR 
THIS?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
RECOGNIZE IN CANADA THAT THERE 
ARE SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION 
PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO 
ADDRESS, OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, WE 
NEED TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES IN 
OUR SOCIETY THAT ARE A LIVED 
REALITY FOR RACIALIZED 
CANADIANS, FOR INDIGENOUS 
CANADIANS.
EVEN AS WE WATCH WITH HORROR 
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE UNITED 
STATES, WE KNOW WE HAVE AN AWFUL
LOT OF WORK TO DO RIGHT HERE IN 
CANADA.
AS A GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE TAKEN 
STEPS TOWARDS THAT, BUT AS YOU 
POINT OUT, THERE'S MUCH MORE TO 
DO.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CANADA IS 
FACING SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION 
THAT AFFECTS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM,
AND MANY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS AND
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT AFFECT 
CANADIANS OF VARIOUS ORIGINS, 
AND THAT'S WHY AS A GOVERNMENT 
WE HAVE TAKEN CONCRETE ACTION IN
RECENT YEARS, BUT WE DO REALIZE 
THERE'S STILL MUCH MORE TO BE 
DONE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO 
WORK TO BE BETTER ALLIES TO ALL 
CANADIANS, BLACK CANADIANS AND 
THOSE OF OTHER VISIBLE 
MINORITIES.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: -- MESSAGE YOU'RE 
SENDING TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE 
WHEN YOU ARE RESPONDING TO MY 
QUESTIONS WITH A TALKING POINT 
YOU'VE USED ALL WEEK RATHER THAN
RESPONDING TO THE VIDEO.
YOU SAY YOU ARE RESPONDING TO 
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE U.S. 
WITH HORROR AND CONSTERNATION, 
AND YOU'RE NOT EXPRESSING THOSE 
SAME THINGS FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
HAVE SAID FROM THE VERY 
BEGINNING THAT CANADA IS NOT 
IMMUNE OR EXEMPT FROM THE THINGS
THAT WE SEE GOING ON IN THE 
UNITED STATES.
RACIALIZED CANADIANS, INDIGENOUS
CANADIANS HAVE LONG SUFFERED 
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION IN EVERY
PART OF THIS COUNTRY, AND EVEN 
THOUGH WE HAVE TAKEN SIGNIFICANT
STEPS OVER THE PAST YEARS, THERE
IS MUCH MORE TO DO.
AND THE EVENTS OF THESE PAST 
WEEKS IN CANADA AND IN THE 
UNITED STATES HAVE UNDERLINED 
HOW MUCH MORE WORK WE HAVE TO 
DO, AND WE WILL BE THERE TO DO 
IT, HAND IN HAND, AS ALLIES TO 
THE BACK COMMUNITY, TO 
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, AND TO ALL 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS.
>> Reporter: HELLO, PRIME 
MINISTER, IT'S ANNIE BERGERON 
OLIVER WITH CTV NATIONAL NEWS.
MANY BLACK LIVES MATTER 
ADVOCATES ARE DEMANDING THAT 
GOVERNMENT DEFUND POLICE AND 
REDIRECT THAT MONEY INTO 
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
THE MAYOR OF L.A., FOR EXAMPLE, 
ANNOUNCED THEY WILL BE CUTTING 
THE LAPD'S BUDGET BY HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
ARE YOU WILLING TO CUT THE 
RCMP'S BUDGET? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT 
PATHS TOWARDS MAKING A BETTER 
COUNTRY.
WE NEED TO EXPLORE THE RANGE OF 
THEM.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S 
APPROPRIATE IN CANADA, HOW WE 
CAN BEST KEEP CANADIANS SAFE AND
HOW WE CAN BEST ADDRESS THE 
SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT EXISTS IN 
FAR TOO MANY PARTS OF OUR 
COUNTRY AND FAR TOO MANY OF OUR 
INSTITUTIONS.
WE WILL DO THAT AS A GOVERNMENT.
WE WILL ENSURE THAT WE ARE 
SUPPORTING COMMUNITY 
ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED SUPPORT,
SUPPORTING ANTI-BLACK RACISM 
PROGRAMS, SUPPORTING INDIGENOUS 
PEOPLES AS WELL AS DOING THE 
THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP ALL
CANADIANS SAFE. 
>> Reporter: DOES THAT MEAN 
YOU'RE OPEN TO IT? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS 
APPROPRIATE IN CANADA, AND I 
THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO 
WORK ON WAYS WITH THE 
COMMUNITIES AFFECTED WITH 
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, WITH 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS, TO TAKE 
THE MEASURES THAT THEY NEED.
WE HAVE PUT SIGNIFICANT FUNDING 
TOWARDS FRONT-LINE ORGANIZATIONS
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE FUNDED INDIGENOUS 
COMMUNITIES SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE IS MORE TO DO.
WE WILL FOCUS ON THAT.
>> Reporter: ON A SEPARATE 
SUBJECT, IT IS NOW ILLEGAL IN 
HONG KONG TO INSULT THE NATIONAL
ANTHEM.
IT'S A MOVE THAT'S WIDELY SEEN 
AS YET ANOTHER INFRINGEMENT ON 
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS CANADA 
DOING TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THIS 
ESCALATION AND TO ENSURE THAT 
PEOPLE FLEEING PROSECUTION IN 
HONG KONG ARE WELCOMED IN 
CANADA? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF OUR 
CLOSEST ALLIES, INCLUDING THE 
U.K., AUSTRALIA AND OTHERS TO 
CONDEMN THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY 
CHINA IN HONG KONG.
WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED WITH 
THEIR STEPPING AWAY FROM THE ONE
COUNTRY TWO SYSTEMS AGREEMENT 
THAT WAS SIGNED A FEW DECADES 
AGO.
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT RIGHTS 
ARE DEFENDED ALL AROUND THE 
WORLD, INCLUDING IN HONG KONG.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE A COUNTRY
THAT IS OPEN AND WELCOMING TO 
PEOPLE FLEEING PERSECUTION AND 
VIOLENCE.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR 
ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD TO 
EXPRESS OUR DEEP CONCERN ABOUT 
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN HONG KONG.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO RETAIN 
THE PRINCIPLES OF TWO SYSTEMS 
ONE COUNTRY, AND UNFORTUNATELY 
BEIJING IS MOVING AWAY FROM THAT
PRINCIPLE, AND WE'RE VERY 
CONCERNED ABOUT THE 300,000 
CANADIANS IN HONG KONG WHO, OF 
COURSE, WOULD BE WELCOME TO 
RETURN TO CANADA AT ANY TIME.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SYSTEM HERE 
THAT WELCOMES PEOPLE FLEEING 
PERSECUTION AND VIOLENCE FROM 
AROUND THE WORLD.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: STAYING WITH CHINA,
WILL YOUR GOVERNMENT BAR CHINESE
PASSENGER PLANES ARRIVING FROM 
CHINA, ARRIVING HERE IN CANADA 
AS THE U.S. HAS DONE AND TO PICK
UP ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WITH 
REGARDS TO HONG KONG AND 
PROTECTING HUMAN RIGHTS, WILL 
YOU JOIN PARLIAMENTARIANS IN 
CANSAT COUNTRIES TO DEMAND A 
SPECIAL HUMAN RIGHTS ENVOY TO 
MONITOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN HONG 
KONG? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE 
THE INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS 
MEASURES IN PLACE TO PROTECT 
CANADIANS.
WE HAVE TAKEN SIGNIFICANT STEPS 
TO ENSURE THAT COVID-19 DOES NOT
GET TRANSPORTED ACROSS 
INTERNATIONAL BORDERS INTO 
CANADA.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE 
APPROPRIATE MEASURES IN PLACE 
BASED ON PUBLIC HEALTH 
RECOMMENDATIONS, BASED ON EXPERT
ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO
DO TO KEEP CANADIANS SAFE FROM 
COVID-19.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH 
PARTNERS AND ALLIES AROUND THE 
WORLD ON WAYS TO ENSURE THAT 
CHINA KNOWS THAT ITS ACTIONS IN 
HONG KONG ARE DEEPLY TROUBLING, 
ARE OF REAL CONCERN FOR THE SAKE
OF PEOPLE IN HONG KONG, BUT 
ELSEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD AS 
WELL.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP 
STRONGLY AND BE THERE FOR PEOPLE
WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR 
FUTURES IN HONG KONG.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH 
OUR INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS TO 
TALK ABOUT OUR CONCERNS 
REGARDING THE DECISIONS BEING 
MADE BY CHINA ABOUT HONG KONG.
WITH RESPECT TO INTERNATIONAL 
FLIGHTS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO 
FOLLOW EXPERTS' RECOMMENDATIONS 
AS TO WHAT WE MUST DO TO ENSURE 
THE PROTECTION AND SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS FROM COVID-19.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: TOM PERRY, CBC.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT BACK TO 
HUAWEI.
A TOP SPOKESPERSON AT THE U.S. 
STATE DEPARTMENT SAID TODAY THAT
IF CANADA ALLOWS HUAWEI INTO ITS
5G NETWORK AND INTO ITS NATIONAL
SECURITY SYSTEMS, THE U.S. WAS 
GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE AN 
ASSESSMENT AS TO WHETHER IT CAN 
CONTINUE TO SHARE INTELLIGENCE 
WITH CANADA.
YOU'VE BEEN MULLING THIS OVER 
FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU'VE SAID YOU'RE TAKING ALL 
SECURITY FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT.
YOU'VE SAID YOU'RE TALKING TO 
SECURITY AGENCIES, CANADA'S 
SECURITY AGENCIES.
YOU'VE SAID YOU'RE SPEAKING TO 
THE ALLIES.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU 
SPECIFICALLY: ARE YOU PREPARED 
TO RISK LOSING ACCESS TO U.S. 
INTELLIGENCE IF YOU GO AHEAD AND
ALLOW HUAWEI IN? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THESE
ARE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE 
BEEN LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY AT.
OBVIOUSLY CONVERSATIONS HAVE 
BEEN EXTENSIVE WITH ALL OUR FIVE
UNITED STATES, AS WE CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH OUR SECURITY SERVICES 
AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ON THE
RIGHT PATH FORWARD FOR CANADA.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
AS I'VE SAID A NUMBER OF TIMES, 
WE ARE CONTINUING OUR 
DISCUSSIONS WITH ALLIES, 
INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES, ON 
THIS DECISION.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO 
THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR 
SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE 
AGENCIES IN ORDER TO MAKE THE 
RIGHT DECISIONS FOR ALL 
CANADIANS.
>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Rosemary: AND THAT IS THE 
PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA ON THIS
THURSDAY WITH HIS DAILY BRIEFING
ON THE PANDEMIC, GIVING US A 
COUPLE OF HINTS AROUND THE 
MODELLING DATA THAT WE EXPECT TO
HEAR MORE ABOUT AT THE TOP OF 
THE HOUR, SHOWING THAT THERE 
ARE -- THE COUNTRY IS MAKING 
PROGRESS, BUT ASKING CANADIANS 
TO STILL CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE 
HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SO MANY 
MONTHS, PHYSICAL DISTANCING, 
WASHING OUR HANDS AND ALL THOSE 
THINGS.
SO I'LL BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES, 
VASSY KAPELOS AND THE CBC'S 
CATHERINE CULLEN.
VASSY, YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.
THE BENEFIT IS ROLLING OUT THE 
WEEK OF JULY 6.
OVER TO YOU.
>> Vassy: I GOT TO SAY, MY 
PHONE'S ALREADY LIGHTING UP WITH
A NUMBER OF SENIORS WHO WERE 
WATCHING AND ANXIOUSLY AWAITING 
THAT DATE.
THERE ARE, AS CATHERINE RAISED, 
A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM THEM 
ABOUT WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG.
SO I'M INTERESTED, MY KNOWLEDGE 
IS FAR IS THERE IS SOME SORT OF 
ANTIQUATED SYSTEMS AND IT'S NOT 
THE SAME OF THE CERB WHERE YOU 
CLICK A BUTTON AND THE MONEY 
ENDS UP GOING INTO YOUR ACCOUNT.
I THINK THERE IS SOME ANXIETY ON
THE PARTS OF SENIORS, BECAUSE 
THIS PANDEMIC IS ALREADY THREE 
MONTHS OLD, HAVE ALREADY HAD TO 
PAY A LOT OF THOSE EXTRA 
INCREMENTAL COSTS, SO SOME 
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THAT 
MONEY IS COMING TOO LATE.
I'M HEARING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE GLAD IT IS COMING AT ALL
AND THEY KNOW WHEN THEY ARE SET 
TO RECEIVE IT, WHICH IS THE WEEK
OF JULY 6.
A NUMBER OF THINGS KIND OF THAT 
PRESS CONFERENCE COVERED A HUGE 
NUMBER OF SUBJECTS, AND I GUESS 
I'LL PICK A COUPLE OF THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF QUESTIONS
FOLLOWING UP ON OUR COLLEAGUE 
TOM PERRY'S QUESTION TO THE 
PRIME MINISTER A FEW DAYS AGO, 
WHICH OF COURSE MADE HEADLINES 
RIGHT AROUND THE WORLD, THE ONE 
THAT ASKED HIM TO COMMENT 
SPECIFICALLY ON THE ACTIONS OF 
DONALD TRUMP DURING THE PROTESTS
AND SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, 
DEPLOYING MEMBERS OF THE 
MILITARY AND INCREASED POLICE 
PRESENCE AND TEAR GAS IN ORDER 
TO MAKE WAY FOR THAT PHOTO OP, 
THAT NOW INFAMOUS PHOTO OP, OF 
THE PRESIDENT HOLDING A BIBLE IN
FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
THE PRIME MINISTER AT THE TIME 
PAUSED FOR 21 SECONDS.
OVER THE ENSUING NUMBER OF 
HOURS, MEMBERS OF PARTICULARLY 
THE NDP, THE NEW DEMOCRATIC 
PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY, STARTED 
TO CRITICIZE HIM FOR THAT AND 
SAY THAT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE 
STAYED SILENT, THAT HE SHOULD BE
MORE SPECIFICALLY CRITICIZING 
THE ACTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT 
IS TAKING.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ASKED 
MULTIPLE TIMES TODAY ABOUT THAT 
PAUSE AND WHETHER IT REFLECTS 
SORT OF A HESITANCY TO COMMENT 
ON THE PRESIDENT, AND IF THAT IS
A BAD THING.
I'M PARAPHRASING WHAT THE 
QUESTIONS WERE.
BUT HE, AGAIN, DID NOT GO THERE,
BASICALLY.
HE DID NOT GO SPECIFICALLY TO 
THE PRESIDENT'S ACTION BUT 
DID -- ACTIONS, RATHER, BUT DID 
REPEAT A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD
SO FAR FROM HIM AND HIS 
MINISTERS, A CONDEMNATION OF 
WHAT'S HAPPENING SOUTH OF THE 
BORDER, THE VERY BLATANT 
DISPLAYS OF RACISM CAUGHT ON 
TAPE AND THE HORRIFIED REACTION 
THAT'S ENSUED.
HE REFLECTED BACK ON THE 
SITUATION HERE IN CANADA AND 
THAT THE PROBLEM IS NOT, YOU 
KNOW, ONE THAT WE DON'T HAVE, 
THAT IT IS A PROBLEM HERE AS 
WELL AND THAT HIS GOVERNMENT, HE
KEEPS SAYING, IS DOING A LOT OF 
STUFF BUT COULD BE DOING MORE 
AND WILL BE DOING MORE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT 
TO TOUCH ON JUST BECAUSE OF HOW 
MANY QUESTIONS HE GOT AROUND 
THAT.
I THINK IT ALSO REFLECTS SORT OF
THE INTERNATIONAL PICK-UP OF 
THAT ANSWER AND THE FACT THAT IT
DID MAKE HEADLINES AROUND THE 
WORLD AND THAT PAUSE CERTAINLY 
CAUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S EYES.
AND THEN FINALLY I JUST WANTED 
TO TOUCH ON HUAWEI AND OUR 
COLLEAGUE KATIE SIMPSON, TOM 
PERRY WAS ASKING A QUESTION 
BASED ON SOME OF HER REPORTING 
THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE SHORTLY 
IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, A MEMBER -- 
A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE STATE 
DEPARTMENT ESSENTIALLY SAYING 
THAT CANADA WOULD BE 
JEOPARDIZING ITS 
INTELLIGENCE-SHARING 
RELATIONSHIP, OR THEY WOULD BE 
HAVING TO -- THE U.S. WOULD HAVE
TO REVIEW THAT RELATIONSHIP, 
WHICH OF COURSE IS AS CENTRAL AS
IT GETS TO INTELLIGENCE IN THIS 
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, IF WE WENT 
AHEAD WITH ALLOWING HUAWEI TO 
ENTER 5G NETWORKS IN THIS 
COUNTRY.
THAT'S A DECISION THE GOVERNMENT
HAS BEEN MULLING WHAT SEEMS LIKE
FOREVER, AND BASED ON THE PRIME 
MINISTER'S ANSWER, I DIDN'T GET 
A SENSE THAT DECISION WAS COMING
DOWN ANY TIME SOON, AND THAT'S 
PROBABLY BECAUSE OF SO MANY 
OTHER FACTORS, YOU KNOW, HE 
DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BUT INCLUDING 
THE DETAINMENT OF TWO CANADIANS 
IN CHINA, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, 
THE COURT PROCEEDINGS FOR MENG 
WANZHOU, THE CFO OF HUAWEI.
IT'S AN EXTREMELY COMPLICATED 
ISSUE, BUT TOM'S QUESTION WAS A 
GREAT ONE IN THAT IT HAS BEEN, 
YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT HAS 
BEEN MULLING THIS DECISION FOR A
REALLY LONG TIME, AND TO WHAT 
DEGREE ARE YOU TAKING INTO 
ACCOUNT WHAT THE U.S. IS SAYING,
WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY IF YOU DO 
GO THAT WAY, YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING
A REALLY, REALLY SIGNIFICANT 
PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, AND IN THE 
MEANTIME, AS THEY CONTINUE TO 
KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD, THE
COMPANIES ARE MAKING OTHER 
DECISIONS.
BELL CANADA FOR INSTANCE, THIS 
WEEK, DECIDING THEY WERE GOING 
TO GO WITH ERICKSON AND NOT 
HUAWEI.
AT SOME POINT THE MARKET MAY 
MAKE THE DECISION FOR THEM.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE DIRECTION 
THEY ARE GOING IN.
I WILL SAY ON THE QUESTIONS 
AROUND HIS PAUSE AROUND THE -- 
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
DOING, WHILE WE RIGHTLY ASK 
THOSE QUESTIONS, IT WOULD BE 
EXTREMELY UNUSUAL FOR A WORLD 
LEADER TO SPEAK OUT -- WELL, FOR
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT TO SPEAK
OUT AGAINST THE U.S. 
ADMINISTRATION.
I MEAN, IT -- WE TRY TO GET THE 
PRIME MINISTER TO BE AS 
FORTHCOMING ABOUT HIS OPINIONS 
AND HIS OBSERVATIONS THAT HE'S 
SEEING WITH DONALD TRUMP, BUT WE
KNOW THAT THAT IS AN EXTREMELY 
DIFFICULT LINE THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO WALK.
SO YES, THERE HAVE BEEN 
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER HE WENT 
FAR ENOUGH, BUT AGAIN, IT IS A 
DIFFICULT ONE FOR ANY 
GOVERNMENT, CONSERVATIVE OR 
LIBERAL, WHEN THEY ARE DEALING 
WITH OUR BIGGEST TRADING 
PARTNER.
CATHERINE, WHAT SPOKE TO YOU 
ABOUT THAT. 
>> Catherine: I WOULD LIKE TO 
JUMP IN ON THAT A BIT, ROSEMARY,
AND HOLD UP FOR SCRUTINY WHAT 
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS SAYING.
HE WAS SAYING TODAY I HAVE 
SPOKEN UP FOR CANADIAN VALUES, I
CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP FOR 
CANADIAN VALUES.
THE QUESTION FROM TOM PERRY THE 
OTHER DAY WAS ABOUT THE 
PRESIDENT CALLING IN THE 
MILITARY ON PROTESTERS, USING 
TEAR GAS FOR A PHOTO OP.
I THINK THE PRIME MINISTER WOULD
NOT SAY THAT THOSE KINDS OF 
ACTIONS CONSTITUTE THINGS THAT 
ARE IN LINE WITH CANADIAN 
VALUES.
AT THE SAME TIME, HIS RESPONSE 
IS THAT I AM STANDING UP FOR 
CANADIANS.
HE SEEMS TO BE INDICATING, OR MY
IMPRESSION OF WHAT HE IS SAYING,
IS THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY IN
CANADIANS' INTERESTS TO SPEAK UP
AGAINST THOSE THINGS.
AND YET THIS IS THE PARADOX 
HERE.
HE CONTINUES TO SAY I AM A 
SPOKESPERSON FOR CANADIAN 
VALUES.
VERY FEW CANADIANS I THINK WOULD
VALUE THAT.
I ALSO THOUGHT HIS ANSWER ON 
DEFUNDING THE POLICE, CUTTING 
THE BUDGET OF THE RCMP, WAS A 
VERY INTERESTING ONE.
HE DID I THINK WE CAN SAY TO 
SOME EXTENT LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN.
HE DID NOT SAY SUCH A THING WAS 
OFF THE TABLE, BUT REALLY THE 
FOCUS OF HIS REMARKS, AND HE WAS
PRESSED BY OUR COLLEAGUE AT CTV 
ABOUT THAT, WAS ABOUT INVESTING 
IN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, 
INVESTING IN ANTI-RACISM GROUPS.
SO NOT SHOWING GREAT INTEREST IN
THAT POSSIBILITY, BUT NOT 
CLOSING THE DOOR EITHER AT A 
TIME WHERE THIS IS VERY MUCH A 
TOPIC OF DISCUSSION GIVEN, YES, 
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE UNITED 
STATES, BUT ALSO HOW THAT HAS 
PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON RACISM IN 
CANADA AND PARTICULAR INSTANCES 
OF RACISM, SOME OF WHICH HE WAS 
ASKED ABOUT IN THAT PRESS 
CONFERENCE AS WELL. 
>> Rosemary: THAT WOULD HAVE 
BEEN AN AREA WHERE HE COULD HAVE
WEIGHED IN A LITTLE MORE GIVEN 
THAT HIS PUBLIC SAFETY MINISTER 
WAS THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR 
TORONTO.
MY WHOLE PODCAST TODAY WAS ABOUT
THIS, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF 
POLICE FORCES ACROSS THIS 
COUNTRY ARE THE LARGEST PORTION 
OF MUNICIPAL BUDGETS.
AND THERE IS A CONVERSATION 
ABOUT WHETHER THAT CONTINUES TO 
MAKE SENSE AND WHETHER THERE 
SHOULDN'T BE OTHER PLACES WHERE 
MONEY COULD BE SPENT.
NOT THAT YOU WOULD GET RID OF 
THE POLICE ALL TOGETHER 
NECESSARILY, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE 
SOME PEOPLE CERTAINLY CALLING 
FOR THAT, BUT THAT YOU LOOK AT 
OTHER WAYS TO DE-ESCALATE, TO 
PREVENT AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT 
THINGS.
AND THAT IS A CONVERSATION, TO 
ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LEGITIMATE
POLICY QUESTION FOR ALL LEVELS 
OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS COUNTRY, 
AND THAT YOU MAY WANT TO WEIGH 
IN ON, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE QUITE 
RIGHT.
HE DIDN'T GO THAT FAR DOWN THE 
ROAD, THOUGH HE DIDN'T CLOSE THE
DOOR EITHER.
>> Catherine: PART OF THE 
DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGES TO 
POLICING, FOR INSTANCE, CAN 
INVOLVE THINGS LIKE ADDITIONAL 
TRAINING, PUTTING BODY CAMERAS, 
FOR INSTANCE, ON ALL POLICE 
OFFICERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OF COURSE, THEY COST MONEY AND 
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE 
HEARING PARTICULARLY AROUND 
BLACK LIVES MATTER SAYING 
ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN THE 
POLICE IS NOT THE WAY TO MAKE 
THIS BETTER.
IN FACT, AS YOU SAY, THERE IS 
SOME DISCUSSION IN SOME CIRCLES 
ABOUT REMOVING FUNDING FROM 
POLICE ENTIRELY AND REPLACING 
THEM WITH SOME SORT OF MORE 
COMMUNITY-MINDED FORCE, AND SO 
IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW 
THE PRIME MINISTER, TO WHAT 
EXTENT HE WAS WILLING TO ENGAGE 
IN THAT PARTICULAR DISCUSSION.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, I'LL LEAVE IT
THERE WITH BOTH OF YOU FOR JUST 
A MOMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHERINE 
AND VASSY.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUR 
MINDS BACK TO WHAT WE KNOW IS AN
ONGOING SITUATION AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER DID REFER TO IT THERE 
IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE 
MODELLING NUMBERS THAT WE ARE 
GOING TO SEE IN AROUND NINE 
MINUTES' TIME AT THE FEDERAL 
BRIEFING, AND THAT IS THE 
ONGOING SITUATION IN LONG-TERM 
CARE HOMES IN THIS COUNTRY, 
SPECIFICALLY IN QUEBEC AND IN 
ONTARIO WHERE THE MILITARY HAVE 
BEEN BROUGHT IN TO SHORE UP 
PERSONNEL AND HELP WITH THE 
OUTBREAKS IN THOSE FACILITIES.
THEY ARE, OF COURSE, THE CAUSE 
OF MOST OF THE DEATHS IN THIS 
COUNTRY, THE DEATHS AT LONG-TERM
CARE CENTRES.
DR. BARRETT HAS SEEN THOSE 
CHALLENGES FIRST-HAND AS A 
VOLUNTEER AT A CARE HOME, AND HE
IS THE FORMER QUEBEC HEALTH 
MINISTER.
HE'S CURRENTLY A LIBERAL MNA.
AYE TRIED TO GET YOU ON A COUPLE
OF TIMES, BUT IT'S BEEN BUSY, SO
THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, AND I
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
HOW ARE YOU?
>> THANK YOU.
I'M FINE.
THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: GOOD.
SO TELL ME WHY YOU DECIDED TO 
GET DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
YOU'RE, OF COURSE, A DOCTOR, BUT
WHY DID YOU DECIDE YOU WERE 
GOING TO GET DIRECTLY INVOLVED 
AT THE LONG-TERM CARE CENTRES IN
QUEBEC?
>> -- AS IT WAS, AND I DIDN'T 
RULE OUT THE PRACTICE OF 
MEDICINE.
I REALLY WENT THERE TO PRACTISE 
ORDERLY WORK ON A DAILY BASIS, 
OR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BECAUSE 
THERE WAS SO MANY PEOPLE LACKING
OVER THERE DURING A SHORT PERIOD
OF TIME THAT SOMETHING HAD TO BE
DONE, AND I PARTICIPATED, AND I 
WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE DONE 
THAT.
>> Rosemary: SO IT WAS ORDERLY 
WORK, AS YOU SAY, PERSONAL 
SUPPORT WORK.
WHAT WERE YOU STRUCK BY WHEN 
DOING THAT WORK, WHICH IS VERY 
DEMANDING WORK, I SHOULD SAY.
WHAT WERE YOU STRUCK BY?
>> WELL, THE WORK IS DEMANDING.
I HAVE DONE THAT IN MY LIFE WHEN
I WAS YOUNGER.
IT DIDN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH, BUT 
THE LACK OF PERSONNEL, THAT WAS 
WHAT WAS STRIKING, THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE THAT WERE
NOT TRAINED IN THE BEGINNING 
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVING A HAND,
THEY WERE HELPING OTHERS, AND 
THE LACK OF PEOPLE THAT WAS 
THERE, IT WAS QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
WHEN I WENT, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT 
WE SAW IN OTHER FACILITIES.
THINGS WERE NOT THAT BAD, BUT 
THEY WERE BAD ENOUGH TO GO 
THERE.
>> Rosemary: NOW OF COURSE YOU 
WERE THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AT 
ONE POINT.
WERE YOU AWARE THAT THINGS WERE 
SO BAD IN CHSLDS, OR WERE YOU IN
A POSITION TO FIX ANY OF THAT 
WHEN YOU WERE THE MINISTER?
>> WHAT WE SAW WAS CRISIS 
DEPENDENT.
ON THE REGULAR BASIS, IF THINGS 
WERE NOT IDEAL, THAT'S FOR SURE,
BUT THEY WERE NOT AT THAT LEVEL.
WHAT WE SAW SPECIFICALLY IN THE 
GREATER MONTREAL AREA IS PEOPLE 
LEAVING THEIR JOBS.
MANY, MANY PEOPLE KEPT COMING TO
THEIR JOBS, BUT WHAT WE SAW WAS 
REALLY PECULIAR AND REALLY 
LIMITED TO THE CRISIS PERIOD, 
BUT THE SITUATION WAS NOT GOOD 
ENOUGH.
SO WHEN I WAS IN OFFICE, I PUT 
IN PLACE A PROJECT IN ORDER TO 
ESTABLISH IN COLLABORATION WITH 
UNIONS AND THE PERSONNEL, ALL 
CATEGORIES, WHAT WOULD BE THE 
IDEAL RATIO OF PATIENTS TO 
PERSONNEL RATIO IN ORDER TO BE 
PUT IN PLACE SO THAT WE HAVE 
BETTER WAYS TO PROVIDE CARE.
AND THROUGHOUT THE ELECTION AND 
WHAT WE WORKED UPON WAS NEVER 
PUT IN PLACE.
UNFORTUNATELY NOW BECAUSE WHAT 
WE SEE IN QUEBEC THEY ARE 
PUTTING IN PLACE WHAT WE PLANNED
TWO YEARS LATER.
IT'S AN ISSUE.
>> Rosemary: THE PREMIER DID 
THAT BIG CALL OUT FOR I THINK 
10,000 APPLICANTS TO BECOME 
ORDERLIES, PERSONAL SUPPORT 
WORKERS.
HE'S HAD A HUGE UPTAKE IN TERMS 
OF APPLICATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW QUALIFIED 
EVERYONE IS OR WHETHER THEY WILL
BE SELECTED FOR THE TRAINING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT IDEA, 
THAT IDEA TO RECRUIT IN A VERY 
URGENT WAY PEOPLE SO THAT THE 
MILITARY DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY 
THERE BEYOND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE
MORE MONTHS, POTENTIALLY?
>> IN THIS CRISIS SITUATION, I 
THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE 
CAN DO.
TWO MONTHS AGO I SAID PAY THEM 
MORE, LIKE WHAT THEY DID IN 
B.C., WHAT WE SAW IN B.C. IS 
THAT THEY PUT MEASURES LIKE 
FUNDING MEASURES FOR PERSONNEL 
THAT HAD A SUCCESS.
THEY KEPT THEIR PERSONNEL.
NOW IN QUEBEC WE LOST AND DIDN'T
BRING BACK THAT PERSONNEL UNTIL 
GOVERNMENT DID AS I SUGGESTED 
RAISE THEIR SALARIES.
NOW THEY ARE COMING IN, BUT THE 
PROBLEM I SEE -- WELL, NOT THE 
PROBLEM I SEE, BUT I HOPE IT 
WON'T WORK AT THAT LEVEL, TO 
THAT LEVEL, AND I WILL BE CLEAR 
ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT 
TRAINING, NURSES TRAINING, ONLY 
60% OF TRAINEES DO COMPLETE 
THEIR TRAINING.
I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING FOR 
ORDERLIES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT RELATED TO 
QUALIFICATIONS.
THE THING IS THAT WHAT WE SEE IS
THAT WHEN THEY GET INTO REAL 
PRACTICE, THEY SEE THAT IT 
DOESN'T FIT FOR THEM AND THEN 
THEY ABANDON.
SO THERE'S A GREAT NUMBER OF 
PEOPLE COMING IN TODAY.
WILL THEY BE THERE AT THE END OF
THE TRAINING?
THAT'S TO BE SEEN.
BUT ON A REGULAR SITUATION, ONLY
60% OF TRAINEES COME IN, IN A 
NURSING PROGRAM, WILL GO TO THE 
END OF IT.
AND WHEN THEY LEAVE, THEY LEAVE 
BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THIS KIND
OF WORK, WHEN THEY GET ON 
FLOORS, IS NOT RIGHT FOR THEM.
AND THAT'S FINE.
IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE A BIG 
NUMBER TODAY WHEN THEY SEE IN 
REALITY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT I 
HOPE THERE WILL BE ENOUGH AT THE
END.
>> Rosemary: THE PROVINCE HAS 
MUSED ABOUT PERHAPS NATIONAL 
GUIDELINES FOR LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES.
WE'RE REALLY NOT THAT FAR DOWN 
THE ROAD WITH THAT CONVERSATION.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE 
USEFUL, IF THERE WERE SOME SORT 
OF AGREED-UPON BETWEEN THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE 
PROVINCES GUIDELINES ON HOW 
LONG-TERM CARE CENTRES SHOULD BE
OPERATED AND RUN?
>> I LISTENED TO THAT WHEN I WAS
IN OFFICE, AND THE ONLY MESSAGE 
I GOT TO SEND ACROSS TODAY IS 
QUITE SIMPLE, WE KNOW WHAT TO 
DO.
WE KNOW WHAT TO DO IN TERMS OF 
HOME CARE.
WE KNOW WHAT TO DO IN TERMS OF 
INSTITUTION CARE.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT 
COSTS MONEY.
IF WE WERE TO DO THINGS REALLY, 
REALLY, REALLY RIGHT, WE WOULD 
HAVE TO INCREASE OUR HEALTH CARE
BUDGET ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY 
ABOUT 10 TO 12%.
ARE WE READY TO DO THAT?
IT'S NOT ABOUT KNOWING WHAT TO 
DO.
IT'S ABOUT FUNDING AND DO WHAT 
WE NEED TO DO.
AND TO THIS POINT, AND YOU KNOW 
VERY WELL, THAT I FOUGHT FOR 
FUNDING INCREASE.
I WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THAT, 
BUT THE ANSWER IS THERE.
SO IF THE PREMIER IS CALLING FOR
NEW GUIDELINES OR STANDARDS AND 
STUFF LIKE THAT, NO PROBLEM.
BUT THERE WILL BE A COST TO 
THAT, AND THAT COST, TO MY 
KNOWLEDGE TODAY, NO PROVINCE OR 
TERRITORY CAN BEAR IT.
>> Rosemary: IF THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT WERE WILLING TO AGREE
TO MORE MONEY, SHOULD PROVINCES,
INCLUDING QUEBEC, ACCEPT SOME 
STRINGS ATTACHED TO THAT MONEY?
>> THIS WOULD NOT BE MY 
RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S QUITE SURE THAT IF I WOULD 
BE IN OFFICE I WOULD GIVE YOU 
THE REGULAR ANSWER, WHICH IS 
THAT THIS IS A PROVINCIAL 
JURISDICTION.
AND YOU COULD TELL ME THAT WE 
COULD DO MORE OURSELVES, BUT 
IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME THING.
WE TRY TO DO THE BEST POSSIBLE 
IN ALL HEALTH CARE FIELDS, AND 
THERE ARE HIGHS AND LOWS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE
WERE AND IF WE ARE IN THE 
FUTURE, IN THIS AGING COUNTRY, 
TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THERE 
WILL HAVE TO BE A SIGNIFICANT 
HEALTH CARE FUNDING IN THE NEAR 
FUTURE.
AND THAT GOES TO WHAT WE HAVE 
BEEN FIGHTING FOR FIVE, SIX 
YEARS AGO, WHICH IS AN INCREASE 
IN HCT, HEALTH CARE TRANSFERS 
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> Rosemary: I'LL LEAVE IT ON 
THIS, DR. BARRETTE.
WHEN YOU WERE WORKING AS AN 
ORDERLY IN THE LONG-TERM CARE 
HOME, WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT 
YOUR OWN HEALTH?
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU FELT 
YOU WERE WELL PROTECTED WITH 
P.P.E.
WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT YOUR OWN 
HEALTH AT ALL?
>> YES, I WAS A BIT BECAUSE I 
HAVE PROBABLY ALL THE RISK 
FACTORS THAT DO EXIST FOR HAVING
A BAD COVID-19 PRESENTATION, 
LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> Rosemary: MM-HM. 
>> BUT I WAS WELL PROTECTED WHEN
I WENT INTO THAT FACILITY.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU
KNOW, I WAS TRAINED IN MY LIFE.
PREVIOUSLY I'M A PHYSICIAN, SO I
KNEW HOW EXACTLY TO UTILIZE THAT
EQUIPMENT.
THAT WAS NOT THE CASE FOR 
EVERYBODY.
IN QUEBEC WE LACKED A LOT OF 
P.P.E. AND ALSO A LACK OF PROPER
TRAINING TO USE THAT EQUIPMENT 
AS COMPARED TO WHAT'S HAPPENED 
IN OTHER PROVINCES.
SO THERE IS A DAY ONE FOR THIS 
CRISIS, AND IN QUEBEC THE STORY 
STARTS WITH NOT BEING WELL 
PREPARED IN TERMS OF HAVING THE 
RIGHT QUANTITY OR A SIGNIFICANT 
QUANTITY OF P.P.E. FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING, AND WE KNOW THE REST 
OF THE STORY.
>> Rosemary: DR. BARRETTE, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME.
I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
GOOD DAY. 
>> Rosemary: NICE TO SEE YOU.
DR. BARRETTE IS A FORMER QUEBEC 
HEALTH MINISTER AND OF COURSE A 
DOCTOR AS WELL.
>>> WE ARE STANDING BY, AS WE 
DO, FOR THE FEDERAL BRIEFING 
WITH CABINET MINISTERS AND 
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS TODAY.
WE ARE GOING TO GET UPDATED 
NATIONAL MODELLING NUMBERS WHICH
WILL PAINT A PICTURE ON HOW WE 
ARE DOING CONTAINING THIS 
PANDEMIC NATIONALLY.
BUT LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF 
STATISTICS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT 
ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TWO 
PROVINCES THAT REMAIN THE MOST 
PROBLEMATIC FOR COVID-19, AND 
THAT IS, OF COURSE, ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC.
THEY NOW REPRESENT 93% OF THE 
MAJORITY OF COVID-19 CASES IN 
THIS COUNTRY, 629 NEW CASES JUST
YESTERDAY.
IN THE REST OF CANADA, 25.
SO EVEN WITH THESE NATIONAL 
MODELLING NUMBERS THAT WE WILL 
GET TODAY, IMPORTANT TO 
REMEMBER, AND CERTAINLY 
DR. THERESA TAM HAS BEEN SAYING 
THIS CONSISTENTLY, THIS IS A 
REGIONAL EPIDEMIC, AND IN AT 
LEAST ONTARIO AND QUEBEC IT IS 
STILL VERY CHALLENGING IN TERMS 
OF GETTING IT UNDER CONTROL IN A
SIGNIFICANT WAY, COMPARED TO THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY.
BEFORE WE GO TO THAT, THOUGH, I 
WANT TO GO TO MY COLLEAGUE SUSAN
ORMISTON WHO IS IN MINNEAPOLIS, 
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SHE IS STANDING BY THERE BECAUSE
WE ARE EXPECTING A MEMORIAL TO 
HAPPEN THIS AFTERNOON FOR GEORGE
FLOYD.
SUSAN, WHAT IS THE SCENE LIKE 
THERE TODAY?
>> GOOD MORNING, ROSEMARY.
WE'RE STANDING OUTSIDE NORTH 
CENTRAL UNIVERSITY IN 
MINNEAPOLIS.
INDEED, THE FIRST MEMORIAL FOR 
GEORGE FLOYD IS EXPECTED TO 
BEGIN HERE IN ABOUT TWO HOURS 
FROM NOW.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE CASKET 
CARRYING HIS BODY ENTER THE 
SANCTUARY HERE.
WE'RE EXPECTING A LOT OF FAMILY 
HAVE FLOWN IN FROM ALL OVER THE 
UNITED STATES.
HE HAD AN EXTENDED FAMILY IN 
MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS 
COUNTRY, MANY OF THEM FROM 
TEXAS.
THIS IS A MEMORIAL.
IT'S NOT A FUNERAL.
THAT WILL BE IN HOUSTON NEXT 
WEEK, BUT IT IS THE FIRST TIME 
THAT HE HAS BEEN FORMALLY 
EULOGIZED, AND REVEREND AL 
SHARPTON IS GOING TO GIVE THE 
EULOGY, AND OUR COLLEAGUES AT 
RADIO-CANADA SPOKE TO 
MR. SHARPTON THIS MORNING, AND 
HE WAS SAYING THINGS LIKE HE 
BELIEVES THIS IS A NEW DAY.
HE REMARKED ON THE PROTESTS AND 
DEMONSTRATIONS WE'VE SEEN ALL 
OVER THE UNITED STATES IN THE 
PAST WEEK, SAYING YOUNG AND OLD,
AS MANY WHITES MARCHING AS 
BLACKS.
HE BELIEVES THAT THIS IS A 
TURNING POINT, A NEW DAY, AND HE
ADDED TO OUR COLLEAGUE'S, AND 
SINCE YOU'RE FROM CANADA, I 
WON'T BE USING A 21-SECOND DELAY
BEFORE I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING 
IN MY EULOGY.
OF COURSE REFERENCING PRIME 
MINISTER TRUDEAU WITH THAT VERY 
LONG PAUSE WHEN HE WAS ASKED 
ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S COMMENTS
THE OTHER DAY.
SO THAT HAS RIPPLED OUT ALL OVER
THE PLACE, AND SHARPTON EVEN 
REFERENCED IT THIS MORNING, 
ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: SINCE THE DECISION 
YESTERDAY FOR THREE OF THE OTHER
OFFICERS INVOLVED TO BE CHARGED,
HAVE THINGS, I DON'T KNOW, 
CALMED -- I DON'T KNOW IF CALMED
DOWN IS THE RIGHT WORD.
>> Reporter: ROSEMARY, I'M NOT 
QUITE HEARING YOU NOW.
WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF 
INTERFERENCE HERE THIS MORNING.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING
IN MINNEAPOLIS TODAY IS THAT THE
OFFICERS WHO WERE CHARGED 
YESTERDAY, THE THREE OTHER 
OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THIS -- IN 
THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD ARE 
APPEARING IN COURT THIS 
AFTERNOON.
THEY HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH 
AIDING AND ABETTING MURDER, AND 
THE CHARGE AGAINST DEREK CHAUVIN
WHO WAS THE POLICE OFFICER WHO 
KNEELED ON FLOYD'S NECK FOR 
ALMOST NINE MINUTES, HIS CHARGE 
WAS ELEVATED TO SECOND-DEGREE 
MURDER FROM THIRD-DEGREE.
HE IS NOT APPEARING IN COURT 
TODAY, AS FAR AS WE KNOW.
BUT THESE COURT CASES NOW ARE 
PROCEEDING AS WELL AT THE SAME 
TIME AS THESE MEMORIALS.
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE 
FLOYD FAMILY, THEY SAID, THAT 
THOSE CHARGES BE LAID BEFORE 
THEY STARTED THE MEMORIAL.
AND IN FACT THAT IS INDEED WHAT 
HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
AS I SAID, THERE WILL BE A 
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEMORIALS 
FOR FLOYD STARTING TODAY HERE IN
MINNEAPOLIS.
THERE'S ANOTHER ON SATURDAY AND 
THEN THE FORMAL FUNERAL WITH 
SOME VERY IMPORTANT GUESTS 
COMING TO HOUSTON ON TUESDAY, 
ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, SUSAN 
ORMISTON, WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SUSAN ORMISTON IS IN MINNEAPOLIS
TODAY.
>>> ALL RIGHT, I'LL BRING BACK 
MY COLLEAGUES CATHERINE CULLEN 
AND VASSY KAPELOS AS WE AWAIT 
FOR OFFICIALS TO ARRIVE AT THIS 
BRIEFING FOR COVID-19.
AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE WE GOT TO
SUSAN THERE, ALL SORTS OF 
PROBLEMS, BUT WE GOT HER ON, 
WHICH IS IMPORTANT, IT IS A 
DIFFERENT PICTURE HERE IN QUEBEC
AND ONTARIO.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT GET A --
AND MAYBE THIS IS WHAT THE PRIME
MINISTER WAS SORT OF HINTING AT,
THAT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE MADE A 
HUGE AMOUNT OF PROGRESS IN LARGE
PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY.
THERE ARE STILL PROVINCES THAT 
ARE -- THAT HAVE REAL PROBLEMS 
IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY NUMBER OF 
NEW CASES BUT ALSO NUMBER OF 
DEATHS, WHICH CONTINUE TO OCCUR,
PRIMARILY IN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC.
VASSY?
>> Vassy: YEAH, AND 
HOSPITALIZATIONS TO ADD TO THAT 
TOO.
I LISTENED CLOSELY TO THE WAY 
THE PRIME MINISTER DESCRIBED 
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING, 
AND HE DID VERY MUCH INDICATE 
THERE ARE MANY PARTS OF THE 
COUNTRY WHERE THIS HAS SLOWED, 
ALMOST STOPPED, BUT THEN HE 
SAID -- AND HE MADE SURE TO 
EMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
HEARD PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE ARE NOT
OUT OF THE WOODS YET.
AND YOU KNOW, THE INDICATION 
THAT HE SEEMED TO GET THAT AND 
WHAT IS OBVIOUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT
ANY OF THE DATA IS WHERE WE'RE 
REALLY NOT OUT OF THE WOODS IS 
IN ONTARIO AND TO A CERTAIN 
DEGREE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A 
LESSER DEGREE, BUT CERTAINLY IN 
QUEBEC AS WELL.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT TO POINT TO NOT
JUST THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES.
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF 
DIFFERENT DATA THAT WE CAN LOOK 
AT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE NUMBER OF 
DEATHS, BUT ALSO THE NUMBER OF 
HOSPITALIZATIONS AND PEOPLE WHO 
CONTINUE TO BE IN THE I.C.U.
REMEMBER ALL OF THESE 
RESTRICTIONS CAME INTO PLACE SO 
THAT WE COULD SORT OF STEM THE 
FLOW OF PEOPLE INTO, YOU KNOW, 
WHAT ARE CAPPED LEVELS OF 
I.C.U.S ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND 
HOSPITALIZATIONS AS WELL.
THAT WORKS FOR THE MOST PART, 
BUT IN QUEBEC AND IN MOSTLY 
ONTARIO THERE ARE STILL PRETTY 
HIGH RATES OF HOSPITALIZATION 
DUE TO COVID-19.
I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON 
SOMETHING THAT I HEARD IN YOUR 
INTERVIEW WITH DR. BARRETTE, AND
IT REMINDED ME OF A QUESTION THE
PRIME MINISTER RECEIVED.
THAT IS THAT WE SHOULD REMEMBER 
JUST A WEEK AGO WE WERE TALKING 
ABOUT THE MILITARY'S REPORT.
I THINK IT WAS A WEEK AGO.
THE MILITARY'S REPORTS INTO THE 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, THAT THEY 
ARE IN IN BOTH ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC.
IN ONTARIO THAT STAY HAS BEEN 
EXTENDED UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF 
JUNE, SO AT LEAST ANOTHER I 
THINK EIGHT OR TEN DAYS.
IN QUEBEC, THE PREMIER THERE HAS
ASKED FOR THE MILITARY TO STAY 
ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF 
SEPTEMBER.
THEY ALSO PUT OUT A CALL FOR 
10,000 POSITIONS THAT THEY HAVE 
TO FILL IN ORDER TO SORT OF 
AUGMENT THE ISSUE THAT THE 
MILITARY IS ADDRESSING RIGHT 
NOW.
THEY RECEIVED LAST NIGHT 
CHRISTOPHER SKEET TOLD ME MORE 
THAN 70,000 APPLICATIONS FOR 
THOSE POSITIONS.
THE QUESTION IS HOW FAST CAN 
THOSE PEOPLE GET TRAINED AND 
WILL THAT ACTUALLY SORT OF 
REPLACE WHAT THE MILITARY IS 
DOING.
AND THEN THE BIGGER QUESTION, 
THE ONE THE PRIME MINISTER 
RECEIVED AND WHY I WAS REMINDED 
OF IT DURING YOUR INTERVIEW, IS 
WHETHER OR NOT THE MILITARY WILL
ACTUALLY SAY UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF
SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THE DEFENCE 
MINISTER HAS SIGNALLED THAT 
ISN'T SUSTAINABLE.
THE PRIME MINISTER DID NOT HAVE 
A DIRECT ANSWER TO THAT AT THIS 
POINT BUT SAID THAT THOSE 
DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING RIGHT 
NOW.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, VASSY, THANK 
YOU FOR THAT.
AND CATHERINE AS WELL.
I'LL BE BACK TO BOTH OF YOU.
ARE WE GOING TO GO TO THIS 
BRIEFING?
WE'RE NOT?
OKAY, I'M GOING TO BRING YOU TO 
EDMUNDSTON, NEW BRUNSWICK WHERE 
THERE WAS A SHOOTING AND A WOMAN
WAS KILLED OVERNIGHT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
[ FRENCH ]. 
[ FRENCH ]. 
>> Rosemary: THIS IS EDMUNDSTON 
POLICE SAYING THEY ARE LOOKING 
AT THE CRIME SCENE WHERE ONE 
WOMAN WAS SHOT OVERNIGHT.
THAT INVESTIGATION CONTINUES.
I'LL BRING YOU BACK NOW TO 
OTTAWA.
ONCE WE HAVE TRANSLATION ON THIS
SCRUM, WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU.
I'LL BRING YOU BACK TO OTTAWA 
WITH THE COVID-19 BRIEFING WITH 
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS AND 
MINISTERS IS ABOUT TO BEGIN AND 
THEY WILL RELEASE THEIR NATIONAL
MODELLING ON COVID-19.
LET'S GO THERE NOW.
>> -- GROCERIES COST MORE AND 
DELIVERIES A PREMIUM.
PRESCRIPTION DISPENSING FEES 
HAVE INCREASED IN MANY 
PROVINCES.
IN APRIL, MORE THAN 4 MILLION 
LOW TO MIDDLE INCOME SENIORS 
RECEIVED A SUPPLEMENTARY GST 
CREDIT AUTOMATICALLY IN THEIR 
BANK ACCOUNTS FROM THE 
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA.
TODAY WE'RE ANNOUNCING THAT THE 
ONE-TIME TAX-FREE PAYMENT FOR 
SENIORS WILL BE RECEIVED ON THE 
WEEK OF JULY 6.
THIS AUTOMATIC PAYMENT WILL 
PROVIDE $2.5 BILLION OF SUPPORT 
FOR SENIORS ELIGIBLE FOR THE OLD
AGE SECURITY WITH EXTRA SUPPORT 
FOR THOSE ELIGIBLE FOR THE 
GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT.
AND THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE 
SURVIVOR.
FOR A LOW-INCOME SENIOR COUPLE 
ON GIS, THE APRIL AND JULY 
PAYMENTS WILL ADD UP TO OVER 
$1,500 IN SUPPORT TO HELP WITH 
INCREASED COSTS CAUSED BY THE 
COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
IN TOTAL, THAT REPRESENTS MORE 
THAN $1500 IN SUPPORT FOR A 
LOW-INCOME COUPLE. 
[ End of Interpretation ]
OUR OBJECTIVE HAS BEEN TO GET 
THIS PAYMENT TO SENIORS AS 
QUICKLY AND SIMPLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE KNOW SENIORS ARE MORE 
TARGETED FOR FRAUD THAN OTHERS, 
AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN 
TARGETED FOR BENEFIT SCAMS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THE 
ONE-TIME PAYMENT AUTOMATIC, TO 
HELP PREVENT FRAUD.
SENIORS DO NOT NEED TO APPLY, 
AND THEY SHOULD NOT SHARE ANY 
PERSONAL OR BANKING INFORMATION 
TO RECEIVE IT.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
IN ORDER TO AVOID FRAUD, THE 
PAYMENT IS AUTOMATIC. 
[ End of Interpretation ]
-- COMPLEMENTS OTHER FEDERAL 
SUPPORT FOR SENIORS DURING THE 
PANDEMIC, WHICH IS INCLUDING 
HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO 
CHARITIES AND COMMUNITY GROUPS 
THAT HELP SENIORS AND OTHERS GET
ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND SUPPLIES,
SUCH AS THE DELIVERY OF 
GROCERIES.
$2,000 A MONTH FOR THOSE WHO 
LOST THEIR JOB DUE TO COVID-19, 
REGARDLESS OF PENSION BENEFITS.
TEMPORARILY E TENDING THE GIS 
AND ALLOWANCE PAYMENTS FOR THOSE
WHO ARE EXPERIENCING 
DIFFICULTIES SUBMITTING THEIR 
TAXES TO ENSURE THE MOST 
VULNERABLE SENIORS CONTINUE TO 
RECEIVE THE BENEFITS THEY DEPEND
UPON.
WE REDUCED THE MANDATORY 
WITHDRAWAL REQUIREMENTS BY 25% 
FOR REGISTERED RETIREMENT INCOME
FUNDS TO PROTECT SENIORS' 
INVESTMENTS DURING THE VOLATILE 
MARKET.
AND IMPROVING SENIOR'S QUALITY 
OF LIFE AND REDUCING SOCIAL 
ISOLATION THROUGH THE NEW 
HORIZONS PROGRAM.
WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALL THE 
IDEAS THAT ARE COMING IN ON HOW 
WE COULD BETTER HELP SENIORS.
DURING THESE UNPRECEDENTED 
TIMES, WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE 
FOR CANADIAN SENIORS.
THANK YOU.
MERCI.
>> THANK YOU, DEB.
I WILL NOW TURN TO DR. TAM.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I WILL START WITH THE LATEST 
NUMBERS ON COVID-19 IN CANADA.
THERE ARE NOW 93,441 CONFIRMED 
CASES, INCLUDING 7,543 DEATHS 
AND 51,445 OR 55% OF CASES HAVE 
NOW RECOVERED.
LABS ACROSS CANADA HAVE TESTED 
OVER 1,787,000 PEOPLE FOR 
COVID-19 TO DATE, WITH ABOUT 5% 
OF THESE TESTING POSITIVE 
OVERALL.
AND IN THE PAST WEEK, WE'VE BEEN
TESTING AN AVERAGE OF CLOSE TO 
29,000 PEOPLE DAILY.
WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE THIS 
OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO A LITTLE 
BIT MORE DETAIL ON OUR DATA.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> AS USUAL, I WILL BEGIN BY 
DISCUSSING RECENT DATA ON 
COVID-19 IN CANADA.
THERE ARE NOW 92,748 CONFIRMED 
CASES WITH 7,495 DEATHS.
LABORATORIES ACROSS CANADA HAVE 
TESTED COVID-19 FOR 1,747,000 
INDIVIDUALS, AND RESULTS FOR 
ABOUT 7% WERE POSITIVE.
OVER THE PAST WEEK WE HAVE BEEN 
TESTING AN AVERAGE OF CLOSE TO 
29,000 PEOPLE DAILY.
THESE NUMBERS ARE CHANGING AND 
UPDATED REGULARLY ON THE 
WEBSITE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE TWO.
AS WE PROCEED WITH RELAXATION OF
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES TO REOPEN
SOCIETY, DATA AND MODELLING 
REINFORCE THAT CORE PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES ARE ESSENTIAL 
FOR MAINTAINING CONTROL OF 
CANADA'S COVID-19 EPIDEMIC.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE TWO.
AS WE PROCEED WITH RELAXATION OF
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES TO REOPEN
SOCIETY, DATA AND MODELLING 
REINFORCE THAT CORE PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES ARE ESSENTIAL 
FOR MAINTAINING CONTROL OF 
CANADA'S COVID-19 EPIDEMIC.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 3.
THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF COVID-19 IN 
CANADA HIGHLIGHTS CLEAR REGIONAL
DIFFERENCES WITH THE HIGHEST 
NUMBER OF CASES CONCENTRATED IN 
OUR FOUR MOST POPULOUS 
PROVINCES.
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO ACCOUNT FOR 
THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES 
OVERALL AND COMMUNITY 
TRANSMISSION HOTSPOTS PERSIST IN
AND AROUND THE TORONTO AND 
MONTREAL AREAS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOX TO THE
RIGHT WE ARE SEEING THAT THE 
PROPORTION OF CONFIRMED CASES 
WHO HAVE DIED HAS INCREASED TO 
8% ON JUNE 2.
BASED ON AVAILABLE 
INFORMATION -- AND THAT ACTUALLY
REFLECTS, OF COURSE, THE IMPACT 
ON OUR SENIORS.
BASED ON AVAILABLE INFORMATION, 
16% OF CASES HAVE REQUIRED 
HOSPITALIZATIONS, AND JUST OVER 
3% HAVE REQUIRED INTENSIVE CARE.
OF COURSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THE 
LAB-CONFIRMED CASES ARE 
ESTIMATES OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
PEOPLE INFECTED IN CANADA.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 3.
THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF COVID-19 IN 
CANADA HIGHLIGHTS REGIONAL 
DIFFERENCES WITH THE HIGHEST 
NUMBER OF CASES CONCENTRATED IN 
OUR FOUR MOST POPULOUS 
PROVINCES: ALBERTA, QUEBEC, 
ONTARIO AND BRITISH COLUMBIA.
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO ACCOUNT FOR 
86% OF CASES OVERALL, AND 
COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION HOTSPOTS 
PERSIST IN AND AROUND TORONTO 
AND MONTREAL.
IF WE LOOK AT THE BOX TO THE 
RIGHT, THE LOWER BOX REGARDING 
THE PROPORTION OF DEATHS, THE 
PROPORTIONS OF CASES WHO HAVE 
DIED HAS INCREASED TO 8% ON JUNE
2, REFLECTING THE TRAGIC IMPACT 
ON CANADA'S SENIORS IN LONG-TERM
CARE.
BASED ON AVAILABLE INFORMATION, 
16% OF CASES HAVE REQUIRED 
HOSPITALIZATION, AND JUST OVER 
3% HAVE REQUIRED INTENSIVE CARE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 4 -- PEOPLE OF ANY AGE,
GENDER OR DATA CAN DEVELOP 
COVID-19, SOME PEOPLE ARE AT 
HIGHER RISK FOR HOSPITALIZATION 
AND DEATH, SUCH AS OLDER ADULTS 
AND PEOPLE OF ALL AGES WITH 
CHRONIC, MEDICAL OR IMMUNE 
COMPROMISING HEALTH CONDITIONS.
CURRENTLY ADULTS AGE 60 YEARS 
AND OLDER ACCOUNT FOR THE 
MAJORITY OF THE 
HOSPITALIZATIONS, CRITICAL CARE 
AND DEATHS.
TRAJECTORILY OVER 82% OF DEATHS 
ARE LINKED TO LONG-TERM CARE AND
SENIORS HOMES WHERE OUTBREAKS 
HAVE BEEN OCCURRING SINCE THE 
OUTSET.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 4.
ALTHOUGH PEOPLE OF ANY AGE, 
GENDER OR HEALTH STATUS CAN 
DEVELOP COVID-19, SOME PEOPLE 
ARE AT HIGHER RISK FOR 
HOSPITALIZATION AND DEATH, SUCH 
AS OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE OF 
ALL AGES WITH CHRONIC MEDICAL OR
IMMUNE COMPROMISING HEALTH 
CONDITIONS.
CURRENTLY ADULTS AGE 60 YEARS 
AND OLDER ACCOUNT FOR THE 
MAJORITY OF THE 
HOSPITALIZATIONS, CRITICAL CARE 
ADMISSIONS AND DEATHS.
TRAGICALLY, OVER 82% OF DEATHS 
ARE LINKED TO LONG-TERM CARE AND
SENIORS HOMES WHERE OUTBREAKS 
HAVE BEEN OCCURRING EVER SINCE 
THE OUTSET OF COVID-19.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 5.
ALL AGE GROUPS HAVE BEEN 
AFFECTED.
ALTHOUGH THE NUMBER OF CASES 
AMONG CHILDREN AND YOUTH HAS 
RE-MAINED LOW.
YOUNG AND -- EARLY ON AND 
THROUGH TO THE PRESENT.
THESE ARE REPRESENTED BY THE 
BLUE AND THE RED LINES ON THE 
GRAPH.
THE SHARP PEAK OF CASES IN 
ADULTS AGE 80 YEARS AND OLDER IS
LARGELY DUE TO THE OUTBREAKS IN 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES IN QUEBEC 
AND ONTARIO.
THIS IS REPRESENTED BY THE GREEN
LINE.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 5.
ALL AGE GROUPS HAVE BEEN 
AFFECTED, ALTHOUGH THE NUMBER OF
CASES AMONG CHILDREN AND YOUTH 
HAS REMAINED LOW.
YOUNG AND MIDDLE AGE ADULTS 
ACCOUNT FOR THE MAJORITY OF 
CASES EARLY ON AND THROUGH TO 
THE PRESENT.
AS WE CAN SEE ON THE RED AND 
BLUE LINES.
THE SHARP PEAK OF CASES IN 
ADULTS AGE 80 YEARS AND OLDER IS
LARGELY DUE TO OUTBREAKS IN 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES IN QUEBEC 
AND ONTARIO.
AS WE CAN SEE ON THE GREEN LINE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 6.
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO CASES ACCOUNT
FOR OVER 90% OF THE NATIONAL 
CASE COUNT OVER THE PAST 14 
DAYS.
NO COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION HAS 
OCCURRED TO DATE IN PRINCE 
EDWARD ISLAND, THE NORTHWEST 
TERRITORIES OR THE YUKON.
THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO CASES 
REPORTED TODAY IN NUNAVUT.
SO THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE 
CLEAR -- THAT THERE ARE REGIONAL
EPIDEMICS IN CANADA.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 6.
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO CASES ACCOUNT
FOR OVER 90% OF THE NATIONAL 
CASE COUNT OVER THE PAST 14 
DAYS.
NO COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION HAS 
OCCURRED TO DATE IN PRINCE 
EDWARD ISLAND, THE NORTHWEST 
TERRITORIES OR THE YUKON.
THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO CASES 
REPORTED TO DATE IN NUNAVUT.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 7.
COVID-19 HAS EXPLOITED SOCIAL 
AND ECONOMIC VULNERABILITIES AND
INEQUALITIES ACROSS CANADIAN 
SOCIETY, TAKING HOLD IN SETTINGS
AND AMONG COMMUNITIES WHO 
EXPERIENCE OVERCROWDING, LOWER 
INCOMES AND HEALTH DISPARITIES.
LONG-TERM CARE AND ASSISTED 
LIVING HOMES HAVE BEEN HIT THE 
HARDEST WITH MORE THAN 900 
SEPARATE OUTBREAKS, ACCOUNTING 
FOR ABOUT 18% OF CONFIRMED CASES
AND 82% OF ALL DEATHS.
OUTBREAKS IN OTHER CONGREGATE 
LIVING AND WORK SETTINGS ARE 
ALSO DRIVING CASE COUNTS IN SOME
PROVINCES.
THESE SETTINGS INCLUDE ACUTE 
CARE, DAYCARES, CORRECTIONAL 
FACILITIES, AND WORKPLACES, 
INCLUDING CANADA'S LARGEST 
OUTBREAK LINKED TO A MEAT 
PROCESSING PLANT.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 7.
COVID-19 HAS EXPLOITED SOCIAL 
AND ECONOMIC VULNERABILITIES AND
INEQUALITIES ACROSS CANADIAN 
SOCIETY.
TAKING HOLD IN SETTINGS AND 
AMONG COMMUNITIES WHO EXPERIENCE
OVERCROWDING, LOWER INCOMES AND 
HEALTH DISPARITIES.
LONG-TERM CARE AND ASSISTED 
LIVING HOMES HAVE BEEN HIT THE 
HARDEST, WITH MORE THAN 900 
SEPARATE OUTBREAKS ACCOUNTING 
FOR ABOUT 18% OF CONFIRMED 
CASES, AND TRAGICALLY 82% OF ALL
DEATHS.
OUTBREAKS IN OTHER CONGREGATE 
LIVING AND WORK SETTINGS ARE 
ALSO DRIVING CASE COUNTS IN SOME
PROVINCES.
THESE SETTINGS INCLUDE ACUTE 
CARE SETTINGS, DAYCARES, 
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES AND 
WORKPLACES, INCLUDING CANADA'S 
LARGEST OUTBREAK LINKED TO A 
MEAT PROCESSING PLANT.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 8.
ONE WAY WE MONITOR WHETHER THE 
EPIDEMIC IS COMING UNDER CONTROL
IS TO LOOK AT HOW MANY OTHER 
PEOPLE A SINGLE INFECTED PERSON 
CAN SPREAD THE INFECTION TO.
THIS IS REPRESENTED BY A NUMBER 
CALLED THE RT, WHICH STANDS FOR 
THE EFFECTIVE REPRODUCTION 
NUMBER.
FLUCTUATIONS IN THE RT REFLECT 
CHANGES IN THE COUNTRY, 
ESPECIALLY IN AND AROUND TORONTO
AND MONTREAL.
OVERALL, THE RT FOR CANADA IS 
CURRENTLY BELOW ONE, BUT WE WILL
NEED TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENTLY 
BELOW ONE FOR MORE THAN THREE 
WEEKS BEFORE WE CAN BE SURE THAT
OUR PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES ARE 
EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLING THE 
EPIDEMIC.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 8.
ONE WAY WE MONITOR WHETHER THE 
EPIDEMIC IS COMING UNDER CONTROL
IS TO LOOK AT HOW MANY OTHER 
PEOPLE A SINGLE INFECTED PERSON 
CAN SPREAD THE INFECTION TO.
THIS IS REPRESENTED BY A NUMBER,
RT, WHICH STANDS FOR EFFECTIVE 
REPRODUCTION NUMBER.
FLUCTUATIONS IN THE RT REFLECT 
ONGOING TRANSMISSION IN AREAS 
AROUND THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY 
IN AND AROUND CANADA'S MOST 
POPULOUS CITIES, TORONTO AND 
MONTREAL, AS WELL AS THE 
COMMUNITIES AROUND THESE CITIES.
OVERALL, THE RT FOR CANADA IS 
CURRENTLY UNDER ONE, BUT WE WILL
NEED TO KEEP IT CONSISTENTLY 
BELOW ONE FOR MORE THAN THREE 
WEEKS BEFORE WE CAN BE SURE THAT
OUR PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES ARE 
EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLING THE 
EPIDEMIC.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 9.
BASED ON UPDATED CASE DATA, THIS
FORECASTING SHOWS PREDICTED 
CASES AND DEATHS OF COVID-19 OUT
TO JUNE 15.
ON THE LEFT, THE PREDICTED 
NUMBER OF CASES COULD BE IN THE 
RANGE OF 98,000 TO 107,500 BY 
JUNE 15.
ON THE RIGHT, THE PREDICTED 
NUMBER OF DEATHS COULD BE IN THE
RANGE OF 7,700 TO 9,400 BY JUNE 
15.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 9.
BASED ON UPDATED CANADIAN REAL 
DATA, THIS SHORT TERM 
FORECASTING SHOWS PREDICTED 
CASES AND DEATHS DUE TO COVID-19
OUT TO JUNE 15.
ON THE LEFT THE PREDICTED NUMBER
OF CASES COULD BE IN THE RANGE 
OF 98,000 TO 107,000 BY JUNE 15.
ON THE RIGHT, THE PREDICTED 
NUMBER OF DEATHS COULD BE UP TO 
9,400 BY JUNE 15.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 10.
MODELS PROVIDE A PREDICTION OF 
WHAT COULD HAPPEN UNDER 
DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, ALLOWING US
TO DRIVE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH 
ACTION TOWARDS A BEST POSSIBLE 
OUTCOME.
WE CONTINUE TO USE MODELS ON AN 
ONGOING BASIS TO HELP US 
IDENTIFY WHICH COMBINATIONS OF 
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES APPLIED 
WITH WHAT INTENSITY ARE MOST 
LIKELY TO REINFORCE EPIDEMIC 
CONTROL.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 10.
MODELLING IS A TOOL TO EXPLORE 
DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ALLOWING US TO DRIVE OUR PUBLIC 
HEALTH ACTIONS TOWARD A BEST 
POSSIBLE OUTCOME.
WE CONTINUE TO USE MODELS ON AN 
ONGOING BASIS, TO HELP US 
IDENTIFY WHICH COMBINATIONS OF 
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES APPLY 
WITH WHAT INTENSITY ARE MORE 
LIKELY TO REINFORCE THE EPIDEMIC
CONTROL.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 11.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS 
GRAPH BEFORE, BUT IT ILLUSTRATES
THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF MENTAL 
HEALTH MEASURES ON THE SIZE AND 
DURATION OF THE EPIDEMIC UNDER 
THREE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS.
SO WE HAVE BEEN AIMING FOR THAT 
SMALLER GREEN CURVE WHICH 
REPRESENTS A BEST-CASE SCENARIO 
WHERE EACH INFECTED PERSON ONLY 
TRANSMITS TO LESS THAN ONE OTHER
PERSON ON AVERAGE.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 11.
THIS GRAPH ILLUSTRATES THE 
POTENTIAL IMPACT OF PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES ON THE SIZE AND 
DURATION OF THE EPIDEMIC UNDER 
THREE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS THAT WE
USE WITH PLANNING.
WE ARE AIMING FOR THE GREEN 
SMALLER CURVE, WHICH REPRESENTS 
THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO WHERE 
EACH INFECTED PERSON ONLY 
TRANSMITS TO LESS THAN ONE OTHER
PERSON ON AVERAGE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> WITHOUT A VACCINE OR 
TREATMENTS, PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES REMAIN ESSENTIAL TO 
CONTROL THE EPIDEMIC.
IF WE ARE LOOSENING DISTANCING, 
THIS MUST BE ACCOMPAIED BY 
ENHANCEMENTS TO OTHER PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES INCLUDING CASE 
DETECTION, CONTACT TRACING AND 
QUARANTINE TO PREVENT NEW 
INTRODUCTIONS AND TO IDENTIFY 
AND CONTROL ANY NEW TRANSMISSION
CHAINS.
THESE MODELS ALL TELL US THAT IF
WE RELAX TOO MUCH OR TOO SOON 
THE PANDEMIC WILL MOST LIKELY 
REBOUND WITH EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AS
A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 12.
WITHOUT A VACCINE OR TREATMENTS,
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURE REMAIN 
ESSENTIAL TO CONTROL THE 
EPIDEMIC.
LOOSENING DISTANCING MUST BE 
ACCOMPANIED BY ENHANCEMENTS TO 
OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES, 
INCLUDING CASE DETECTION, 
CONTACT TRACING AND QUARANTINE.
TO PREVENT NEW OBSTRUCTIONS AND 
TO IDENTIFY AND CONTROL ANY NEW 
TRANSMISSION CHAIN.
THESE MODELS TELL US THAT IF WE 
RELAX TOO MUCH OR TOO SOON THE 
EPIDEMIC WILL MOST LIKELY 
REBOUND WITH EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 13.
THIS SLIDE COMPARES CANADA'S 
COVID-19 TRAJECTORY WITH OTHER 
COUNTRIES, AND CANADA'S PUBLIC 
HEALTH EFFORTS TO SLOW EPIDEMIC 
GROWTH SHOWS THAT WE WERE ABLE 
TO BEND AND FLATTEN THE CURVE 
SOONER THAN A NUMBER OF 
COUNTRIES.
OTHER COUNTRIES, SUCH AS SOUTH 
KOREA AND JAPAN, DEMONSTRATED 
STRONG EPIDEMIC CONTROL TO KEEP 
THEIR CURVE SMALLER OVERALL, BUT
ALL COUNTRIES REALIZE THAT THIS 
IS AN ONGOING EFFORT REQUIRING 
SUSTAINED PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES
TO AVOID NEW OUTBREAKS AND A 
REBOUND IN EPIDEMIC ACTIVITY.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 13.
THIS SLIDE COMPARES CANADA'S 
COVID-19 TRAJECTORY WITH OTHER 
COUNTRIES.
CANADA'S PUBLIC HEALTH EFFORTS 
TO SLOW EPIDEMIC GROWTH SHOW 
THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BEND AND 
FLATTEN THE CURVE SOONER THAN A 
NUMBER OF COUNTRIES.
OTHER COUNTRIES, SUCH AS SOUTH 
KOREA AND JAPAN, DEMONSTRATE A 
STRONG EPIDEMIC CONTROL TO KEEP 
THEIR CURVES SMALLER OVERALL, 
BUT ALL COUNTRIES REALIZE THAT 
THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT 
REQUIRING SUSTAINED PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES TO AVOID NEW 
OUTBREAKS AND/OR REBOUND 
EPIDEMIC ACTIVITY.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> SLIDE 14.
CANADA HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT 
PROGRESS TO BRING THE EPIDEMIC 
UNDER CONTROL, THANKS TO THE 
COMMITMENT OF CANADIANS WHO ARE 
FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE 
TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND 
OTHERS.
UNTIL THERE IS A VACCINE OR 
EFFECTIVE TREATMENT, WE MUST 
CAREFULLY BALANCE THE RISK 
ASSOCIATED WITH SPREAD OF 
COVID-19 WITH THE UNINTENDED 
SOCIAL AND HEALTH CONSEQUENCES 
OF RESTRICTIVE PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES.
JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
ARE TAKING A GRADUAL, SAFE 
APPROACH TO INCREASING SOCIAL 
AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WITH 
APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS AND 
CONTROLS IN PLACE TO MINIMIZE 
SERIOUS ILLNESS, DEATH AND 
BURDEN ON THE HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM.
PRIORITY AREAS INCLUDE RAPIDLY 
IDENTIFYING AND ISOLATING CASES,
TRACE AND QUARANTINE CONTACTS.
CONTINUE TO INCREASE HEALTH CARE
AND PUBLIC HEALTH CAPACITY.
PROVIDE A HIGH DEGREE OF 
PROTECTION FOR VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS IN SETTINGS, 
INCLUDING SUPPORTING WORKPLACES.
AND ENGAGE COMMUNITIES TO 
PRACTISE CORE PERSONAL PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES.
THANK YOU.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> SLIDE 14.
CANADA HAS MADE SOME PROGRESS TO
BRING THE EPIDEMIC UNDER CONTROL
THANKS TO THE COMMITMENT OF 
CANADIANS WHO ARE FOLLOWING 
PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE TO PROTECT 
THEMSELVES AND OTHERS.
UNTIL THERE IS A VACCINE OR 
EFFECTIVE TREATMENT, WE MUST 
CAREFULLY BALANCE THE RISKS 
ASSOCIATED WITH SPREAD OF 
COVID-19 WITH THE UNINTENDED 
SOCIAL AND HEALTH CONSEQUENCES 
OF RESTRICTIVE PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES.
JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
ARE TAKING A GRADUAL PHASED 
APPROACH TO INCREASING SOCIAL 
AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WITH 
APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS AND 
CONTROLS IN PLACE TO MINIMIZE 
SERIOUS ILLNESS, DEATH AND 
BURDEN ON THE HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM.
PRIORITY AREAS INCLUDE RAPIDLY 
IDENTIFY AND ISOLATE CASES, 
TRACE AND QUARANTINE CONTACTS, 
CONTINUE TO INCREASE HEALTH CARE
AND PUBLIC HEALTH CAPACITY, 
PROVIDE A HIGH DEGREE OF 
PROTECTION FOR VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS, AND SETTINGS, 
INCLUDING WORKPLACES.
AND FINALLY, ENGAGE COMMUNITIES 
TO PRACTISE CORE PERSONAL PUBLIC
HEALTH MEASURES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. TAM,
DR. NJOO.
GOOD NEWS TODAY.
FIRSTLY, THE SITUATION IS 
IMPROVING THROUGHOUT CANADA, BUT
WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS 
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE 
PROGRESS MADE OVER THE PAST FEW 
WEEKS.
ANOTHER PIECE OF GOOD NEWS IS 
THE ASSISTANCE TO SENIORS WHO 
BUILT OUR COUNTRY, OUR PARENTS, 
OUR GRANDPARENTS.
THIS IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION 
FOR SENIORS, BOTH THE HEALTH AND
ECONOMIC SITUATIONS.
GIVEN HIGH PRICES AND THE 
INCREASE IN PRICES FOR DRUGS AND
TRANSIT, AMONG OTHERS, 
MR. TRUDEAU ANNOUNCED THIS 
MORNING THAT IN THE WEEK OF THE 
6TH OF JULY THERE WILL BE 
ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE, BETWEEN 
300 AND $500 PER SENIOR.
AND THIS IS ADDED TO THE GST 
CREDIT ON THE 9TH OF APRIL THAT 
WAS MEANT FOR 60% OF SENIORS 
WHICH MEANS THAT FOR SENIORS 
LIVING ALONE THE TOTAL 
ASSISTANCE WILL GO UP AND 
SENIORS PART OF A COUPLE THE 
ASSISTANCE CAN GO FROM 600 TO 
1500.
SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT, 900 FOR 
SINGLE SENIORS AND 1500 FOR 
SENIORS IN A COUPLE, THOSE ARE 
SOME OF THE AMOUNTS SENIORS WILL
RECEIVE.
I WOULD ADD THESE ARE ONE-TIME 
NON-TAXABLE PAYMENTS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NON-TAXABLE, 
SENIORS WILL KNOW THAT THEY CAN 
KEEP ALL OF THE PAYMENT AND ONE 
TIME BECAUSE THAT WAY THEY DON'T
HAVE TO WAIT TO RECEIVE THE 
AMOUNTS.
I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THESE 
PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE 
AUTOMATICALLY.
NO APPLICATION IS NECESSARY, AND
THAT WILL REDUCE OPPORTUNITIES 
FOR FRAUD, WHICH COULD HAVE 
OCCURRED OTHERWISE.
I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT 98% OF 
SENIORS WILL RECEIVE THESE 
DEPOSITS BY DIRECT DEPOSIT, 
WHICH WILL ALSO ALLOW THIS TO 
OCCUR MORE QUICKLY.
THIS WILL ENABLE SENIORS TO GET 
THROUGH THIS CRISIS MORE EASILY.
AND NOW WE WILL TAKE YOUR 
QUESTIONS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> WE WILL START WITH THREE 
QUESTIONS ON THE PHONE, ONE 
QUESTION, ONE FOLLOW-UP, BEFORE 
WE TURN TO THE ROOM.
OPERATOR, OVER TO YOU.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
OUR FIRST QUESTION IS FROM 
RADIO-CANADA.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: I HAVE A QUESTION 
FOR MR. NJOO AND MR. DUCLOS.
MR. NJOO, TO WHAT EXTENT IS IT 
IMPORTANT TO HAVE 
ETHNIC-SPECIFIC DATA ON COVID-19
FOR RACIALIZED OR INDIGENOUS 
COMMUNITIES?
THIS HAS BEEN ASKED FOR A GREAT 
DEAL.
ISN'T THIS IMPORTANT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
YES, INDEED IT IS IMPORTANT TO 
HAVE THE DATA.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE REPORTS FROM 
SPECIFIC OUTBREAKS AND 
SITUATIONS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED 
IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND 
ESTABLISHMENTS WITH VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, HOMELESS SHELTERS.
IT IS CLEAR THAT APART FROM 
SENIORS AND LONG-TERM CARE 
CENTRES, COVID-19 HAS ALSO 
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED 
OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
AND THAT IS A REFLECTION OF OUR 
SOCIETY'S INEQUALITIES.
POVERTY, OVER-POPULATED 
HOUSEHOLDS, ALL OF THAT CAN LEAD
TO INCREASED RISK FOR SOME 
POPULATIONS.
WERE YOU CURRENTLY IN ACTIVE 
DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PUBLIC 
HEALTH COUNTERPARTS IN THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES.
EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
BUT THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT 
NEED TO BE DISCUSSED TO 
OPERATIONALIZE FOR ALL OF 
CANADA.
THANK YOU.
>> VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE 
DR. NJOO STATED MOST OF THE 
ANSWER THAT I BELIEVE IS 
IMPORTANT, I WOULD SAY THAT IT 
IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE 
DISAGGREGATED DATA ON CULTURAL 
AND ETHNIC EFFECTS, AND I 
BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC HEALTH 
AGENCIES IN THE PROVINCES ARE 
INCREASINGLY GIVEN THIS 
INFORMATION.
MORE GENERALLY IT IS CLEAR THAT 
THE TESTING, THE BLOOD TESTING 
THAT WILL BE GENERATED WILL BE 
ABLE TO TELL US WHO TESTED 
POSITIVE AND WHO HAS RECEIVED --
OR WHO, RATHER, HAD COVID-19 
BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE 
BETWEEN THOSE TESTED AND THOSE 
WHO ACTUALLY WERE INFECTED WITH 
THE VIRUS.
THIS DATA WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.
WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE 
PROVINCES, AND WE WILL DRAW 
INFORMATION FROM THIS DATA.
FIRSTLY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE 
ALREADY KNEW FOR VULNERABLE 
ISOLATED FEARFUL POPULATIONS ARE
TOO OFTEN LEFT TO THEIR OWN 
DEVICES, AND IN A PUBLIC HEALTH 
CONTEXT, THIS IS NOT ONLY 
NEGATIVE FOR THESE POPULATIONS 
BUT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE WILL
DRAW FROM THIS DATA IS HOW TO 
REDUCE THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS,
IN CONTEXT, LIKE DR. NJOO 
MENTIONED.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE ARE HOUSING ISSUES FOR 
SENIORS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MORE 
GENERALLY WHERE THERE IS A BAD 
HOUSING SITUATION, BAD NOT ONLY 
MORALLY AND SOCIALLY, BUT ALSO 
ON A HEALTH LEVEL.
>> Reporter: IN TERMS OF 
TIMELINES, WHEN WILL WE HAVE 
THIS DATA?
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE 
PROVINCES?
YOU SAY YOU'RE IN DISCUSSION, 
BUT IF EVERYONE WAS REALLY ON 
THE SAME PAGE, I THOUGHT WE 
WOULD HAVE THE DATA.
WHAT'S NOT WORKING?
>> WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSSIONS 
WITH PROVINCES, I WILL LET 
DR. NJOO ANSWER.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S 
PERHAPS A LACK OF PEOPLE ON THE 
GROUND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS 
WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED 
IN THE PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES
WITH THE OUTBREAKS.
PEOPLE ARE VERY BUSY ON THE 
GROUND, AND IN ORDER TO DO 
CONTACT TRACING AND SO ON, HOW 
TO SAY, WELL, IT REQUIRES A LOT 
OF RESOURCES.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HOW TO 
COLLECT THE DATA.
TO DATE WE HAVE DATA ON 
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, BUT NOT 
ALL PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES 
GATHER THIS DATA IN A REGULAR 
FASHION.
THERE ARE STILL ISSUES TO BE 
RESOLVED.
ANOTHER ASPECT IS EVEN IF WE 
WANTED TO GATHER SOCIO-ECONOMIC 
DATA AND OTHER DATA, WE ALSO 
WANT TO STIGMATIZING AND 
DISCRIMINATING.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A 
SITUATION WHERE WE'RE VICTIM 
BLAMING.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED OR
INFECTED, THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT.
ADDITIONALLY, AS MINISTER DUCLOS
SAID, WE ALSO NEED TO ENSURE THE
DATA PRIVACY IS PROTECTED.
WE NEED DISAGGREGATED DATA, AND 
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 
ISOLATED COMMUNITIES, IT CAN BE 
DIFFICULT TO FULLY ANONYMISE THE
DATA.
SO THESE ARE DIFFICULT ISSUES 
AND WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH OUR 
COUNTERPARTS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> NEXT QUESTION, PLEASE.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT QUESTION IS FROM RYAN 
MELTY WITH THE "NATIONAL POST".
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> Reporter: YEAH, GOOD MORNING,
OR GOOD AFTERNOON, DR. TAM.
I'M WONDERING IN PREVIOUS 
MODELLING EFFORTS, AND WE'VE 
CERTAINLY HEARD THIS FROM OTHER 
ENTITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, 
THAT DATA HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
I'M WONDERING WITH THIS 
MODELLING, ARE YOU CONFIDENT 
YOU'RE GETTING ENOUGH GOOD DATA 
FROM THE PROVINCE TO BE ABLE TO 
PREDICT WHERE THE PANDEMIC IS 
GOING?
>> YES, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING 
HARD WITH THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES.
SOME OF THE MODELS DON'T USE 
SPECIFIC CASE-BASED DATA BUT USE
A LOT OF RESEARCH ON PARAMETERS 
OF DISEASE CHARACTERISTICS, LIKE
THE INCUBATION PERIOD OR THE 
PERIOD OF INFECTIVITY.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
IT DEPENDS ON WHICH MODEL YOU'RE
LOOKING AT.
WHAT WE NOW HAVE, APPROXIMATELY 
99% OF THE-BASED INFORMATION NOW
FROM PROVINCES -- CASE-BASED 
INFORMATION FROM PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES, WHICH IS GREAT, AND
IT GIVES US A BASIC DEMOGRAPHIC 
INFORMATION, BUT WE ARE MISSING 
SOME DATA POINTS, SUCH AS THE 
RACE AND ETHNICITY DATA THAT -- 
BASED ON THE LAST QUESTION.
WE DO HAVE NOW ALMOST ALL OF THE
CASE INFORMATION FORMS, AND 
THERE ARE SOME FIELDS THAT ARE 
MISSING STILL, SPECIAL FOR THE 
FINAL OUTCOMES OF WHAT HAPPENS 
TO PEOPLE, BUT THOSE WILL GET 
FILLED OVER TIME.
SO I THINK BASED ON THAT 
INFORMATION AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN
IN THE SHORT-TERM FORECASTING 
PROJECTIONS, THAT'S THE ONE THAT
USES THE ACTUAL CASE DATA.
THE OTHER TYPES OF MODELLING IS 
BASED ON A WIDE RANGING AMOUNT 
OF INFORMATION COLLECTED THROUGH
INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH, AS MUCH 
AS IT IS DOMESTIC, TO MODEL 
THOSE PARAMETERS ON DISEASE 
DYNAMICS AND TRANSMISSION.
AND SO THOSE GET UPDATED AS 
WELL.
SO THE DISEASE-BRED MODELS AND 
THE DYNAMIC MODELS THAT YOU'VE 
SEEN, FOR THE MOST PART, ALL OF 
THEM DEMONSTRATE THAT IF WE 
RELAX CERTAIN THINGS TOO SOON, 
IF WE DON'T CONTINUE THESE 
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES, THERE'S 
A VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SOME 
SORT OF REBOUND AND RESURGENCE.
>> RYAN, FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: YES, I'M ALSO 
WONDERING, THE DATA YOU'RE 
SHOWING TODAY SHOWS THAT CROWDED
PLACES LIKE MEAT PLANTS AND WORK
CAMPS AND SHELTERS HAVE ALL HAD 
SIGNIFICANT OUTBREAKS.
I KNOW JUST RECENTLY THERE WAS 
REPORTS OF OUTBREAKS AMONG 
TEMPORARY FOREIGN WORKERS IN 
FARMING OPERATIONS IN ONTARIO.
DO YOU THINK MORE NEEDS TO BE 
DONE IN SORT OF THESE CROWDED 
WORK SETTINGS TO ENSURE THAT 
THERE AREN'T MORE OUTBREAKS AND,
THUS, MORE COMMUNITY SPREAD?
>> THAT IS AN ABSOLUTELY VITAL 
ASPECT OF CONTROLLING THE 
PANDEMIC GOING FORWARD.
I THINK THE COLLECTIVE AMOUNT OF
GLOBAL INFORMATION BUT ALSO IN 
CANADA SHOWS IN CLOSED CROWDED 
SPACES, CLOSE CONTACTS LEAD TO 
WHAT WE MIGHT CALL THE BIGGER OR
LARGER CLUSTERS OR SOMETIMES 
WHAT WE CALL SUPER SPREADING 
EVENTS.
THOSE ARE THE KIND OF SETTINGS 
THAT ARE BECOMING QUITE EVIDENT.
SO AS CANADA EXPERIENCES SOME OF
THESE OUTBREAKS, A LOT HAS BEEN 
LEARNED.
AS THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF 
HEALTH SHARED INFORMATION IN THE
SPECIAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE 
HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON 
LEARNING WHAT KIND OF PROTOCOLS 
AND PROCESSES NEED TO BE PUT IN 
PLACE, PARTICULARLY INFECTION 
PREVENTION CONTROL IN WORKPLACES
SUCH AS A MEAT PACKING PLANT.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT IS THAT MORE 
ACTUAL ANALYSIS OF THE SOCIAL 
CONNECTS BEYOND JUST THE 
WORKPLACE, BUT THE CROWDED 
LIVING CONDITIONS, PERHAPS OF 
THE WORKERS, AND THEIR LINKAGE 
THEN TO THE WIDER COMMUNITY IS 
ANOTHER AREA THAT WE HAVE 
LEARNED ABOUT.
SO THERE'S NOT JUST A WORKPLACE 
BUT THE TRANSPORTATION BETWEEN 
SOMEONE'S HOME AND THE 
WORKPLACE, BUT ALSO THE HOMES 
THEMSELVES IF THEY ARE IN 
CROWDED CONDITIONS.
IT TAKES A COMPLEX SET OF 
PROGRAMS AND POLICIES, CHAMPION 
OF WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT.
LONG-TERM CARE, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IS -- KNOWING EVERYTHING 
THAT WE KNOW, PROTECTING A 
RESURGENCE MEANS ABSOLUTELY 
ESCALATING BEST PRACTICES IN ALL
OF THOSE SETTINGS.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH 
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES CANADA AND
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO 
ENSURE PROTOCOL PREVENTION BUT 
ALSO WHAT TO DO RAPIDLY IF THEY 
DETECT A CASE RAPIDLY IN 
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.
THERE ARE NOW PROTOCOLS IN PLACE
TO NOW RAPIDLY TEST AND THEN 
MANAGE THOSE OUTBREAKS.
SO IT'S IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 
THESE SETTINGS.
AND OF COURSE THE MINISTER OF 
HEALTH MAY WANT TO COMMENT, BUT 
WE'RE WORKING QUITE CLOSELY NOW 
WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT 
DEPARTMENTS ON LOOKING AT WHAT 
MORE WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT 
TEMPORARY FOREIGN WORKERS AS 
WELL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AS DR. TAM SAID, THERE'S NO 
SECRET THAT THE CROWDED 
CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN 
ARE DRIVING THESE OUTBREAKS, AND
SO I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH MY
COLLEAGUE MINISTER QUALTROUGH 
ABOUT WHAT MORE WE CAN DO TO 
ENSURE THAT TEMPORARY FOREIGN 
WORKERS HAVE APPROPRIATE 
ACCOMMODATIONS.
WE HAVE SEEN OUTBREAKS NOW IN 
B.C. AND MOST RECENTLY IN 
ONTARIO.
WE KNOW THAT THESE WORKERS ARE 
CRITICAL TO OUR AGRICULTURAL 
SECTOR, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT 
THEIR HEALTH IS CRITICAL TO THE 
HEALTH OF CANADIANS THAT LIVE IN
AND AMONGST THEM, AND AS WELL, 
THEIR OWN HEALTH, AND OFTEN THEY
ARE OFTEN FAR AWAY FROM THEIR 
OWN HOME.
WE HAVE ALREADY TRAGICALLY LOST 
A TEMPORARY FOREIGN WORKER IN 
THIS MOST RECENT OUTBREAK, AND 
SO WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER 
TO MAKE SURE THAT TEMPORARY 
FOREIGN WORKERS ARE PROTECTED, 
AND SO ARE THE COMMUNITIES IN 
WHICH THEY ARE LIVING.
>> Operator: OUR NEXT QUESTION 
IS FROM LA PRESSE CANADIAN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: QUESTION.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR. NJOO 
ON MODELLING.
FIRSTLY, ON DEATHS AND ON WHAT 
YOU SAID COULD OCCUR BEFORE THE 
15TH OF JUNE, BETWEEN 7700 AND 
9400, WE ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO 
7700 ON THE 4TH OF JUNE, SO I 
WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHETHER WE'RE 
IN -- STILL IN THIS SCENARIO OF 
MODELLING OR WITH THE REOPENING 
THAT WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY, I'M 
WONDERING IF THAT NUMBER IS 
GOING UP FASTER THAN EXPECTED.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
IT'S ALWAYS HARD WITH MODELLING.
IT'S NOT A CRYSTAL BALL.
WE DO OUR BEST WITH THE DATA 
BASED ON WHAT'S CURRENTLY 
OCCURRING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 
LONG-TERM CARE CENTRES.
BECAUSE THAT IS THE PLACE THAT 
IS CURRENTLY AT THE MOST DEATHS 
IN CANADA.
NOW WITH WHAT'S OCCURRING IN 
ONTARIO AND QUEBEC, WITH THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES, THAT HAS 
HELPED.
THEY ARE THERE TO HELP THE 
PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITIES IN 
BOTH PROVINCES.
CURRENTLY WITH THE DEATHS WE 
HAVE NOW, THAT REFLECTS WHAT'S 
OCCURRED, THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE 
DID TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
AND AS FOR THE MEASURES WE'RE 
TAKING NOW, WE'LL SEE THE 
RESULTS OF THAT LATER.
WE HOPE WE'LL SEE LOWER 
INFECTIONS OF DEATHS, BUT ONLY 
IN TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.
SO WITH A RANGE OF MODELS WE'RE 
ESTIMATING BETWEEN 7700 AND 9400
DEATHS BY JUNE 15, AND CURRENTLY
WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO BE 
BETWEEN THOSE EXTREMES.
>> Reporter: FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
ON PAGE 12 OF YOUR PRESENTATION 
YOU HAVE TWO GRAPHS.
ONE GRAPH THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT
CURVE, WHICH IS GOING DOWN, AND 
THEN IN THE OTHER GRAPH WE SEE A
SUDDEN SPIKE IN CASES IN OCTOBER
IN THE FALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT WOULD 
POTENTIALLY LEAD TO THAT 
INCREASE IN CASES IN THE FALL?
DO YOU THINK WE'RE MOVING 
TOWARDS THAT SCENARIO?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SCARE 
CANADIANS, BUT IT'S REALLY WHAT 
WE ALL DO AS CANADIANS 
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
SO FAR WE'VE ALL WORKED HARD AND
WE HAVE FLATTENED THE CURVE, BUT
NOW THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WITH 
SUMMER AND THE GOOD WEATHER 
EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE LEAVING 
THEIR HOMES, AND IT CAN BE 
DIFFICULT TO ALWAYS REMEMBER TO 
PRACTISE GOOD PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES.
WE HAVE MENTIONED MANY TIMES 
THESE IMPORTANT MEASURES.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO RESPECT 
PHYSICAL DISTANCING, GOOD HABITS
LIKE FREQUENTLY WASHING YOUR 
HANDS, AND IF YOU'RE IN A 
SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN'T 
PHYSICALLY DISTANCE, THEN YOU 
COULD CONSIDER USING A 
NON-MEDICAL MASK OR A FACE 
COVERING IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE
ON PUBLIC TRANSIT OR AT THE 
GROCERY STORE.
WE'RE HOPING TO AVOID A SCENARIO
LIKE THAT.
BUT IF PEOPLE FIND THIS TOO 
DIFFICULT AND, OF COURSE, WITH 
THE LOOSENING OF MEASURES IN 
EACH PROVINCE AND TERRITORY, WE 
ALWAYS NEED TO REMEMBER PUBLIC 
HEALTH PRINCIPLES, EVEN IF EACH 
OF THESE MEASURES IS LOOSENED, 
OF WHICH WE ALSO NEED TO HELP 
THE ECONOMY RECOVER.
WE NEED TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO 
OPEN, BUT WE NEED TO STRIKE A 
BALANCE.
WE WANT TO AVOID A SCENARIO 
WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER SPIKE.
THANK YOU.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: SLIDE 12 AND THE 
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN -- 
>> OH, YES, SLIDE 12.
LOOKING AT SLIDE 12 IN TERMS OF 
WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN NOW AND THE
FALL, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT 
ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT CANADIANS DO
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH THE NICE 
WEATHER, WITH THE SUMMER COMING,
PEOPLE GOING OUT, IT'S SOMETIMES
MORE DIFFICULT TO REMEMBER THAT 
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TO KEEP 
PRACTISING ALL THOSE IMPORTANT 
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES, KEEPING 
A PHYSICAL DISTANCING WHERE 
APPROPRIATE OR WHERE YOU CAN OF 
TWO METRES.
IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, WEARING A 
FACE COVERING OR A NON-MEDICAL 
MASK.
ALSO FREQUENTLY WASHING YOUR 
HANDS.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE 
REPEATED MANY TIMES.
IF WE DO THAT AS A COUNTRY, THEN
I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SHAPE 
AND NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS HOW 
YOU SAY A RESURGENCE OF CASES IN
THE FALL.
BUT IF WE DON'T AS A COUNTRY, 
THEN THAT'S WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND OF COURSE THE CHALLENGE AS 
WELL IS THAT AS WE TRY TO -- 
LIKE I SAY, RE-START THE 
ECONOMY, AS BUSINESSES OWN UP, 
AS PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES 
START TO RELAX CERTAIN MEASURES,
WE ALL NEED TO KEEP A CAREFUL 
EYE OF WHAT COMES OVER THE 
COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.
>> Rosemary: WE WILL PULL AWAY 
FROM THE FEDERAL BRIEFING RIGHT 
NOW JUST TO WRAP UP A LITTLE OF 
WHAT WE HEARD IN TERMS OF THE 
NATIONAL MODELLING NUMBERS.
I'LL BRING BACK VASSY KAPELOS 
AND THE CBC'S CATHERINE CULLEN.
AS WE PREDICTED, THE PICTURE 
ENCOURAGING, BUT QUITE RIGHT 
VERY DIFFERENT IN ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC.
THEY ACCOUNT FOR 90% OF THE 
CASES THAT HAVE OCCURRED JUST 
OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER 
GOOD INFORMATION THERE IN TERMS 
OF WHERE WE'RE AT, VASSY.
WHAT STOOD OUT THERE FOR YOU?
>> Vassy: YEAH, I THOUGHT 
ABSOLUTELY THE SAME THING STOOD 
OUT TO ME, THE VERY PRONOUNCED 
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC AND THE REST OF THE 
COUNTRY.
THAT FIRST STATISTIC THAT YOU 
OUTLINED, THAT 90% OF THE CASES 
IN THE LAST 14 DAYS, AND WE KNOW
THAT.
EVERY DAY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 
DAILY NUMBERS, BUT TO SEE THAT, 
VERY STARKLY PRESENTED, 90% OF 
THE CASES IN THE LAST 14 DAYS 
ARE IN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC.
AND THEN EVEN MORE PRONOUNCED IS
THE DIFFERENCE IN SOME PARTS OF 
ONTARIO AND QUEBEC, WHICH IS 
REFLECTED I THOUGHT VERY 
INTERESTINGLY AS DR. TAM POINTED
OUT IN WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE RT.
SO THAT'S THE RATE AT WHICH IF 
I'M INFECTED I CAUSE NEW 
INFECTIONS.
IT'S DOWN BELOW ONE AND HAS BEEN
FOR A FEW WEEKS.
BUT, AND THIS IS A BIG BUT, 
THAT'S A BIG DEAL, FIRST OF ALL.
IT SHOWS YOU HOW GOOD THINGS ARE
GOING IN THE REST OF THE 
COUNTRY.
>> Rosemary: IT'S A BIG DEAL.
>> Vassy: BUT THERE HAVE BEEN 
MANY FLUCTUATIONS, AND DR. TAM 
SAID DUE TO TORONTO AND 
MONTREAL, LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS 
CAUSING THE FLUCTUATIONS AND 
WILL NEED SORT OF THE 
ELIMINATION OF THOSE 
FLUCTUATIONS BEFORE YOU CAN SORT
OF TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY, 
OKAY, THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS 
FLATTENED THE CURVE.
SO IT SHOWS ME, FOR EXAMPLE, A 
LOT OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY 
THAT THE PROBLEM IS VERY MUCH 
FOCUSED RIGHT NOW ON ONTARIO AND
QUEBEC, BUT IT'S ALSO EVEN MORE 
SO FOCUSED ON THE TWO BIG CITIES
IN THOSE PROVINCES, TORONTO AND 
MONTREAL, WHICH WE, AGAIN, 
ANECDOTALLY HAD HEARD, BUT THE 
NUMBERS AND THE DATA TODAY 
REALLY UNDERSCORE THAT.
AND THEN, AGAIN, OF COURSE, JUST
ANOTHER PRONUNCIATION ON THE 
DEGREE TO WHICH SENIORS AND 
PEOPLE IN LONG-TERM CARE HOMES 
HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS.
82% OF ALL THE DEATHS ACROSS 
THIS COUNTRY ARE LINKED TO -- 
DUE TO COVID-19 ARE LINKED TO 
LONG-TERM CARE AND SENIORS 
HOMES.
AGAIN, THAT HAS PERSISTED EVEN 
SINCE THE LAST UPDATE.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, EXACTLY.
THAT, OF COURSE, IS STILL 
STRIKING PERCENTAGE TO HEAR, AND
THAT RT NUMBER THAT IS SO 
ENCOURAGING, IT'S BEEN BELOW ONE
FOR ALMOST TWO WEEKS, AND 
DR. TAM SAID IF WE CAN KEEP 
GOING ON A TRAJECTORY WITHOUT 
THE UP AND DOWN YOU TALKED 
ABOUT, PRIMARILY CAUSED BY 
TORONTO AND MONTREAL, FOR THREE 
WEEKS, THEN WE'RE IN A MUCH 
BETTER PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW 
LIKELY THE VIRUS IS TO REPRODUCE
BECAUSE THEN THE CASES ARE THAT 
LOW.
IT'S THEN MUCH EASIER TO TRACE 
WHERE THEY ARE AND TRY TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO STOP THEM.
CATHERINE, OVER TO YOU.
>> Catherine: ROSEMARY, I THINK 
WHENE FIRST STARTED TALKING 
ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
RELEASE MODELLING PROJECTIONS, 
THE HOPE WAS NOT TO GIVE US A 
CRYSTAL BALL, BUT THE 
GOVERNMENT'S BEST GUESS OR 
HEALTH OFFICIAL'S BEST GUESS AT 
WHERE WE ARE GOING.
NOW THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF 
THESE UPDATES, AND IT WAS REALLY
EMPHASIZED BY THOSE LAST UPDATES
BY DR. NJOO, WE SEE SUCH A 
RAGEOUS OF POSSIBILITIES -- 
RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES.
I THINK WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US
IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
IT'S THE SNAPSHOT.
VASSY WAS TALK ABOUT THE FACT 
THAT THE SITUATION IS WORSE IN 
TORONTO AND MONTREAL WHILE WE 
WERE ON AIR PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS IN QUEBEC RELEASING 
SOME NEW DATA.
MONTREAL ALONE HAS SURPASSED 
3,000 DEATHS, 3,016 DEATHS NOW 
FOR MONTREAL.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE HAVE SEEN 
UPWARDS OF 7500 DEATHS FROM 
COVID-19.
SO THAT'S NOT QUITE HALF, BUT AN
ENORMOUS PROPORTION, OBVIOUSLY, 
OF THE DEATHS JUST ON THE ISLAND
OF MONTREAL ALONE.
ALSO THE STORY, AS VAZY RIGHTLY 
MENTIONED, ABOUT LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES.
WE LEARNED TODAY THAT 
INTERESTINGLY WOMEN SEEM TO BE 
GETTING COVID-19 MORE OFTEN THAN
MEN IN TERMS OF THE CASES THAT 
WE KNOW HAVE BEEN TESTED.
IT WAS ALSO INTERESTING TO NOTE,
AND I THINK IMPORTANT FOR 
EVERYBODY TO  REGISTER, THAT 
WHILE SUCH A GREAT NUMBER OF THE
DEATHS THAT ARE HAPPENING, 94% 
OF THE PEOPLE ABOVE THE AGE OF 
60, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IS 
WHO IS GETTING COVID-19.
IN FACT, DR. TAM TALKED ABOUT 
THE FACT THAT IT IS YOUNG 
CANADIANS, MIDDLE AGED CANADIANS
THAT ARE ACTUALLY THE MAJORITY 
OF THE CASES.
BUT WHO IS DYING?
ONE THING WE DO KNOW FROM THIS 
DATA IS THAT IT IS THE ELDERLY.
CERTAINLY WE STILL DON'T HAVE 
SOME OF THAT RACE-BASED DATA TOO
THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING 
ABOUT, PARTICULARLY IN RECENT 
WEEKS, TO GET A SENSE OF HOW 
THAT IS PLAYING INTO ALL OF 
THIS. 
>> Rosemary: OKAY, THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COVERAGE.
I APPRECIATE IT.
VASSY KAPELOS, YOU CAN WATCH HER
AT 5 EASTERN ON HER SHOW, "POWER
& POLITICS".
AND CATHERINE CULLEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL JUST POINT TO ONE MORE 
SLIDE THAT I THINK IS WORTH 
REMEMBERING, AND THAT IS ONE OF 
THE LAST SLIDES THEY SHOWED US 
IN THAT BRIEFING, THAT SHOWED IF
WE RELAX TOO MUCH ON OUR PUBLIC 
HEALTH MEASURES, DR. TAM SAID 
THE VIRUS COULD REBOUND WITH 
"EXPLOSIVE GROWTH." 
SO THAT MEANS PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING, HANDWASHING, ALL OF 
THOSE THINGS STILL IMPORTANT AS 
WE ENTER INTO A DIFFERENT PHASE 
IN MOST PARTS OF THE OUR 
COUNTRY.
I WILL LEAVE YOU THERE WITH OUR 
COVERAGE ON "CBC NEWS NETWORK" 
TODAY.
ANDREW NICHOLS PICKS UP AFTER 
THIS SHORT BREAK.
I WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE 
TOMORROW.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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