the reason why this gives me great
pleasure to introduce Zack is because as
far as I know, I don't think he's
actually ever done any flat earth
presentation so I think the uniqueness
of it is the thing that I'm really
looking forward to, so I'm not too sure
where he is at this moment, hopefully
he's very very close, but Zack, can you
just make sure you're okay technically or
whatever, you gonna be...just be at your
podium, but could you please give a warm
up to Zack, I'll suggest it if you can clap
and cheer loudly, I don't know where, I think he'd really appreciate it. i don't know man. No, I don't need that.
alright, Hi Flat Earthers. This is just to break the ice. God only knows how this is gonna look like. but... anyway em... I'm gonna cut right to
the chase I'm gonna tell you I am here
ladies and gentlemen I'm gonna talk
about the biggest problem of the flat
earth, yes, I'm gonna attack the flat earth
this time, what you gonna do about it? huh? you know the reason why I want to do this is
because not too many people know about
these problems, and I know that if you
want to solve a problem you have to face
it, because if you run away from it you
will never be able to solve it, and the
problem will remain in the same place so
whenever you take a step forward it will
pull you back to your place, the problem
itself is talking to you it's telling
you, you cannot do, you cannot go any
further without solving me, so what is
the biggest problem with the flat earth?
if you want me to put it into one word I
will say ''angles''. Anybody who really
investigated the flat earth has come to
this and they all found it as a big wall
and none of them could go through it, none of them, but if you are a fighter, like me, you
will keep digging and digging until you
make a little hole in that wall and then
you will finally be able to go through
it, what I'm gonna show you right now is
how to draw the globe earth model from
scratch, because if you know how to draw
this from scratch, you will know how to
draw this
from scratch, you will face the same
problems as they faced before, so you have
to know how they made this globe earth
model from scratch, so you can
understand how to do this Flat Earth
model from scratch, because there is no
Flat Earth model, and if you think there is a flat earth model you don't understand
this... ''the angles''. all right, so I want to
take you back to the life of the first
humans on earth, oh these are just bunch
of naked people, so you know,
I want you to imagine yourself in a, you know, in a
place where everyone around you is
trying to understand the universe that
circles around us like a clock, all right?
the first thing you might want to do to
understand the universe is to create
time. all right?
I mean if you are a smart human being you'll
have to start with time, because time is
everything, you don't have time, so the
best thing, the best light you will
start with is the Sun, because it's the
most powerful light you know, the most
powerful lights you see, so why not! so
what are you going to do with the light
of the Sun? you're gonna place a stick
perpendicular to the ground, all right,
and then you'll measure the shadows and
then you will, you will realize that the
shadows draw half circles, different
half circles, throughout the year, all
right,
the Sun goes farther away, and it comes back
later, all right?
the weather changes as it moves, the
oceans change as the Moon moves, then you
start to think about seasons, then you
realize that you need something to
navigate so you create a compass, and
then you realize that every other lights
in the sky is connected so you create
something called the astrolabe to measure
the angles of every your light in the
sky at the same time, so you get smarter
and smarter until you finally create
something called the signs of the zodiac,
you know, believing that the magnetic
energy of the stars can affects the
human's personality. most people see
this as a stupidity, but if you think about
it, if you think about it, even colors,
even colors can change the human's
personality, the sounds, the voices you
hear, the movements you see, the people
around you, the buildings you live in,
even your name, anything can change your
personality, so imagine what a big
magnetic energy that moves the oceans
can do to you, but anyway this is not
our subject, I'm just gonna put it aside,
I just wanted to pay your attention to
how human beings connected the sky to
earth, well anyway, so as you got smarter
now, you would want to do something, you
would want to know the shape of the
place you live on, right? so here is a
problem, you only have a tape measure, a
shadow and probably your brain, what
are you gonna do with these things?
can anybody tell me? this is all you have,
what're you gonna do with them? how are
you gonna know the shape of the earth?
you only have three things, all right, at
that time at that time, you
probably believe that the earth is flat
because that's what you see, all right, so
the first thing you might want to do to
understand the universe is to measure
the distances between us and
those lights in the sky, and how are you
going to do that? you're gonna need at
least two sticks, all right? so you're
gonna put them far away from each other,
all right! as far as possible because the
the Sun is obviously big, all right! so
imagine the distance between
these two sticks is 2074 miles and the
angels of elevation is 75 degrees
in both sides, then the distance of
the Sun has to be 3870 miles,
and that's the
math behind it
all right that's the math behind it, it's
so simple, so if you do this you would
want to tell everybody about it, right?
well, you're gonna have a lot of trolls
around you and they will want to do the same thing and here comes the next problem,
everybody's gonna do the same
thing, they will find different distances
the Sun, somebody's gonna find that the distance
in Sun is 3,000 miles and somebody
else will find it 2,000 miles, so you
will want to do this experiments again
but in a different way, so check out this
diagram, so what you see here is land,
this is actually land, all right! and
this is the Sun, you don't know where it
is, so it can be anywhere, and these are
the angles of the light during
the daylight, 12 hours of the day or in
this case 10 hours so anyway, if you are
right here and your friend is right here,
and both angles are 75 degrees, then the
distance to the Sun has to be,
like I said before, 3870 miles
so now if you want to do the
same thing, oops sorry, if you wanna do
the same thing with many people from
different places on earth, at the same
time, and imagine you have this guy right
here he's gonna triangulate the Sun
from with this guy right here so
they will have the Sun and now the
altitude that is uh I cannot even see it
from here but anyway it's gonna be lower
than the first one and the guy right
here is going to have the Sun at even
lower altitude so and the guy who's not
even here on the screen he's gonna see
the Sun right about the guy who is right
here right above his head and he's gonna
call him on on a cell phone
Eratosthenes cell phone so he's gonna
call him any men on I see the Sun right
above your head so the distance to the
Sun has to be zero right oh the guy over
here is gonna be like no man you must
have confused me or somebody else the
Sun is way about my head I'm so you as
the geometry guy and I say geometry God
because they're all all they know is
what they have on the paper they don't
know what's going on on the universe so
as the geometry guy how is this possible
on a flat earth if you believe in the
flat earth this is not possible you
cannot have too many Suns
you only have one son so how are you
going to solve this
can anybody tell me how you are going to
solve this problem because this is a
really big problem for flat earthers
tell me the Sun is then what all right
so how are you going to solve these
problems these angles all these angles
has to go to one point because if you
are in the hallway if you are in the
hallway and you put a bug for example
right here in the middle all right he
goes somewhere and you measure the angle
of elevation of that ball you will get a
distance with that lamp
right so if you go farther away and you
do the same thing you will you will get
the same exact distance to that bar this
is how this how it works but in this
case it doesn't work like that
something is wrong with this these are
real angles taken from real life I
didn't make them up you know if you
measure yourself you're gonna find the
same exact angle so you're gonna have
three options there is no four options
you're gonna have three options as a
geometry guy the first option is keep it
flat and do something in the sky which
is not the case because if you look up
in real life you're not gonna see
anything just Klaus so you're gonna
dismiss this and then you will go to the
second option which is curve down the
earth so these are let's say these are
the real elevation angles alright when
you curve down the earth you can see
that the elevation angles they diverge
from the top and eventually that will
become parallel to each other and in
this case we'll have one Sun because all
these lines will never intersect
anywhere because they are parallel to
each other but if we claim that the Sun
is too big then maybe you know so in
this case mate you can say that we are
trying to real we are solving the
problem but if if you were to rely on
these two pictures then you have too
many Suns you cannot solve it that way
and the third option is concave so if
you curve the earth up like this you
will have a bigger problem than the Flat
Earth and this is a message for concave
earthers if you think that the earth is
concave then you have to solve this
problem and I know that you don't know
what I mean by that by this but if you
continue watching and you won't know so
you go back to your globe and you look
at it and you look at it again because
you don't understand I mean you have
you're not solving anything here so what
do you want to do now to solve this
problem the first thing you will you
will think about is measure the distance
between these lines and make it make it
match with reality you have to make it
match reality so how are you going to do
this there is somebody very smart we all
know I am called
it's a Sinise a guy with a cellphone
here is smart
this guy this guy measured the
circumference of the earth so when you
measure the circumference of the earth
of course you will know the distance
between these two lines so how did he do
that your honor the story of your
assassin is or should I repeat it y'all
know it right okay good so um anyway
before being the smartest Eratosthenes
you have to go through some geometry
lessons
I don't know if everybody here knows
geometry but if you don't I'm gonna I'm
just gonna show you something really
small here I mean it's not it's not a
big problem
so before being as small as in
velocities you're gonna take a globe
like this or a circle
you're gonna divide it into 24 parts
some of you will ask me why 24 and not
27 or 200 miles 200 pieces are 24 hours
it's just let's say it's like when you
say the circle is 360 degrees okay it
can be anything for example this
protractor right here is 400 degrees so
it's just the units even if when you
change the number the circle is still
the same it didn't get bigger or smaller
you didn't change you don't change
anything when you change the number so
it's just the unit just like when you
say one life equal 1.6 kilometers the
distance is still the same the number
has changed
we're just playing the game here so they
they chose 24 hours for some reason I
don't know it so when you divide the
circle into 24 hours you get 15 degrees
in each angle all right so 15 degrees is
a good number so when you know this you
have to do something else you're going
to draw a line from the center to the to
the Sun all right so that that line is
going to take you directly to the Sun
right so if you want to measure the
angle of the Sun it's gonna be 90
degrees it doesn't matter the shape I
mean doesn't matter the size of the the
ball it doesn't matter how big it is so
if you go to the next angle right there
and you draw a parallel line to the
first one you're gonna get 75 degrees in
all scales and I don't know why because
this is how the ball works so in fact
this these are
three four balls all right all these
angles measure the same as long as you
are drawing parallel lines okay they
measure the same
the first one is 75 degrees the second
ball is 75 degrees too so they all work
the same way doesn't matter the size of
the ball this is really important so so
here is done
so Eratosthenes wants to know the real
distance from my knot for example let's
say I am here and the distance it is I
mean the angle of elevation is 90
degrees okay and somebody is somewhere
his angle is 75 degrees if we measure
the distance between us it has to match
our model so our model has to match the
reality I mean it doesn't if it doesn't
match then our ball is is not reality so
we have to create another model so
Eratosthenes was here all right in
alexandria and he sends his friend to
sign his fan is Nana
my candies no I just made it up because
you know all those names you know you
just have to add the knees at the end of
the tape my kidneys Karen knees so that
guy that guy had the Sun is 90 degrees
over a wall all right so they measure
the distance between in between them it
was 500 miles and the angle of
Eratosthenes was seven point two degrees
and I call it the angle of deception
because it's not the angle of elevation
but it's almost same thing so what he
did was divide 360 degrees by 7.2 and he
multiplied it by the distance and he got
25,000 miles in circumference
very nice very close to our our
circumference 24,000 901 lives so if you
look at this information what you
understand nothing right does anybody
understand anything I mean if you tell
me
great so what are you gonna do with this
information
imagine you are you are a friend of
Eratosthenes and he gave you this you're
gonna look at it and we'll be like what
the hell is that all I see is a bunch of
flies in the circle and it doesn't make
any big sin big stuff
yeah well the size of this Sun doesn't
this
yeah but the Sun the size of the Sun
doesn't matter how we explain it later
oh yeah all right so I'll explain
anything all right so if you give this
to anybody on earth they will look at it
and it will be like okay I mean all the
astronomers will use these angles I mean
nobody uses angles who use angles
astronomers and a bunch of other crazy
people that's it I mean that's how are
you gonna do with this nothing anyway so
you will look at it and you will be like
hmm
this is nothing but I see I see
everything here this is reality this is
the world we are living in I see the
future I see everything here so the
first thing I will want to do with these
numbers is draw the map
everybody's gonna use the map the map is
the future if you don't have that map
you have nothing so at that's on you
don't have the map so you're gonna need
a map right
I can draw the map using these numbers
can anybody tell me how all right so
anyway imagine this imagine I am this
guy okay I'm standing right here and
this is a big paper and the Sun is right
about me
all right and we gonna stop the time the
Sun is not gonna move it's gonna stay
there all time so I'm gonna be here and
I got a friend and I got a friend beside
me I'm gonna tell him to blindfold me
his name is Mike have enough I'm gonna
tell him to blindfold me all right and
just keep walking in any direction
because I don't want to see him all
right he's gonna keep walking and
walking and walking and then he's gonna
stop somewhere far away from me very far
away from me and then
he will call me an Eratosthenes
cellphone we have to use their assassin
T cell phone by the way because if we
don't do that we have to net to wait for
next year and next year is gonna take us
a lifetime as long as ha as long as we
have a result in T cell phone and it's
okay so Mike is gotta go to that
direction it was kind of like this and
then stop somewhere it's gonna start
somewhere pick up his phone gonna call
me hurry zone I'm here you know and ask
him you know what is your angle of
elevation Mike is gonna mention his
angle of elevation is gonna be like you
know I think elevation is 75 degrees I
go back to my position all right
so 75 degrees I'm gonna come to my to my
drawing you could use this one or this
one it doesn't matter is the same so 75
degrees Mike is right here all right so
I'm gonna know that the distance between
us is 1037 miles that's the distance
between me and Mike I just knew it by
using the angles so I know the distance
to Mike and I'm gonna confirm it because
my already measured the distance what he
was going there so Mike would be like
what is there the distance to me and I'm
gonna be like so this is between us is
1037 miles do I know where I'm gonna ask
him about the place of course where are
you Mike Mike is gonna be like he's
gonna be like I'm in Egypt okay so I
know that this is to Egypt do I know
what Egypt is no that's correct I don't
know what Egypt says I just know the
distance to Egypt so if I want to know
what Egypt is I'm gonna know I'm gonna
need another angle what is it the angle
of azimuth the horizontal angle I didn't
use it yeah so we only used the
elevation angles and the elevation
angles can only tell me the distance to
that guy that's it and I want to know
the the I mean I want to try and belay
that guy so I'm gonna need another angle
which is horizontal so how the hell am I
supposed to do that I'm gonna call Mike
again hey Mike you have a compass on it
so Mike is gonna stand on the protractor
it's a big ball tractor I'm gonna tell
Mike you have two point zero degrees to
Polaris do you know where Polaris is
point zero degrees to Polaris I'm gonna
do the same thing for my position I'm
gonna point Polaris I'm gonna point zero
degrees to Polaris all right just like
in this drawing look at number one for
example I have two layers right here but
it should be somewhere else you know it
should be the line that goes to Polaris
should be parallel to the other one I
just did it like this so you guys can
see it but anyway you're gonna he's got
a point
he's protracted to Polaris and I'm gonna
point my for attracted to Polaris and
I'm gonna draw a circle with the radius
of 1037 miles which is the distance
between us now
now Mike can be anywhere on that circle
he can be anywhere you can be right
there
right behind me you can be anywhere so
if I want to know where Mike is I'm
gonna try to move that protractor around
that circle I'm just gonna move it like
this pointing zero degrees to Polaris oh
all the time
all right and I'm gonna draw a line from
his feet to no first I'm gonna ask Mike
yeah I forgot this
first come first time I'm gonna ask Mike
to tell me where the Sun is because the
Sun is right above my head okay so Mike
is gonna be like well I don't know how
to measure that I'm gonna show him how
to measure the distance I mean the the
azimuth of the Sun so mike is going to
be like 1 2 3 4 90 degrees 180 degrees
blah blah blah blah 270 degrees so the
angle of azimuth of the Sun for Mike is
270 degrees all right so I'm gonna draw
a line from his feet to 270 degrees I'm
gonna keep doing this like just like in
the picture that line is not gonna go
through me and I want it to go through
me because there is only one point on
that circle with where that line is
going to go through me so I'm gonna keep
moving that protractor around that
circle and eventually that circle I mean
that line is gonna go through me
that's where Mike is there is no other
point Mike is gonna be there for sure so
I'm gonna know that Mike is right there
if I walk that way I will find Mike
maybe I will be a few miles off I don't
know but Mike has to be right there now
I know what Egypt's is and I know where
Mike is all right so the way I found
Egypt I can find Morocco I can find any
other place that is close to me so this
is how I can map the world if this line
right here is parallel to this line then
I'm gonna draw the UTM grid system
that's what I'm gonna join then I'm
gonna wrap a wrapper around a globe all
right but do you find this interesting
guys Mike must be a really cool guy yeah
I know
all right so now you know what Egypt is
and you can draw the entire map
especially the country's Azhar around
you all right so is this is this all you
will find another problem the problem is
if you want to draw other countries like
let's say UK all right let me let me say
I want to triangulate London all right
so I'm gonna send somebody London in my
you know if my calculations is right in
front of me so I'm gonna send somebody
there it's not gonna find London there
you know I'm gonna be asking myself how
can I find Egypt and Morocco and all
countries are closed and I cannot find
London in the right position that guy is
gonna go left is gonna find London but
this is between us it's still the same
you know what's going on I mean if
London is right they're not telling you
this because I did it before London is
right there and we have let's say this
is like five thousand miles I'm not even
sure so if that guy goes left the
distance is still the same but London is
here is not here so there is something
wrong with the azimuth because the
angles of elevation are working because
the distance is working but the
direction so where London is is not
working so what am I supposed to do how
the hell am I supposed to solve this we
have to find a solution so as a globe
earther you we have messed with the no
sorry when we did this we messed with
the angles of elevation all right we
messed with the earth we curved down the
earth in order to fix these angles to
make them look parallel to each other
all right and that's how we fix these
distances so if we want to make the the
azimuth work we have to mess with
something else so what are you gonna do
in this case and this is just my theory
I think they tilted the earth
twenty-three point four degrees to get
to north and this is how you can you
make the azimuth work and finish the
globe of course the first map is gonna
look like a mess you have to adjust it
and just and adjust and so you finish it
right so this is how they draw the
entire map and once you draw the map
what are you gonna do next
you still have problems and these are
all problems at the Flat Earth all right
if you are a flat earther you have to
focus on these angles because if you
know how to deal with angles the way
they treat the ball earth Matt you can
draw the Flat Earth map but it's not
gonna be easy they tilted the earth you
have to do something to the earth
because I already solved the problem of
these elevation angles and I couldn't
solve the problem of the azimuth not
because it's impossible it's because I I
couldn't do it yet I'm still trying so
so once you draw the ball earth map
you're gonna have another problem this
is the next problem and this is what I
was gonna tell you how many people think
that this is correct
nobody and how many of you think that
this is correct you have everybody
because this is the truth this is the
truth they know it they know that the
angles of elevation come from the center
they know it don't think that they don't
know it all right and this is why they
put the Sun so far away it doesn't
matter the side see the sides right here
they deal with the Sun as one point they
did they just care about the center of
the Sun all right they only need the
size when it comes to the Eclipse but
when it comes to angles the only deal
with the Sun as one point because the
size of the Sun can be determined while
you have the distance if you have the
distance you have the size if you have
the size you have the distance that's it
if you modify the distance you have to
modify the size this is how it works so
if you put this down right here look at
these angles they don't look parallel to
each other but when you put it far away
they start to become almost parallel so
they put the Sun 93 million miles away
so of course they will look parallel
they come if you if you draw lines from
93 million miles away from the center of
the Sun and make it so small it doesn't
matter the size you got you're gonna
bring those lines from the center just
like this and you bring them to earth
these lines will look parallel to each
other that's why I told you the size
doesn't matter you know so this is how
you fix the problem of the angles you
have them parallel to each other and at
the same time they are intersecting
somewhere because they will just look
parallel from Earth but they are not so
this is how they solve this problem
son one earth and the angles are working
isn't this genius it's a global model I
know it and I'm a flat earther but this
is this is genius they fix everything
they fix the azimuth and the elevation
angles and everything yeah of course the
author didn't exam well they are they
don't say they are parallel 100% if you
if you look at it and look it up they
say they are close to parallel not 100%
parallel they put it far away because
from here if you measure the angle it
will be like let's say seventy five
point zero zero as you want you can
never measure that in real life so
that's why they did this trick of course
it's just a trick so now they from that
time the distance of the signs was like
three million miles away or something
like that it wasn't that far all right
so of course a few may put the Sun three
million miles away the math is going to
work with everything but when it comes
to the eclipses they find that you know
they have to play with the distances
because something is going wrong what is
this something there is something else
called the angular diameter the angular
diameter of the Sun and the moon is
always zero point 52 degrees it doesn't
change
maybe 0.53 degrees sometimes so if you
put the Sun 1 million miles away this is
the diameter of the Sun
the size of the Sun you get it from the
distance if you get the distance you get
the diameter because you have to put the
Sun inside this angular diameter you
have to put it inside and out outside
all right so if you want to change the
size of the Sun someday you have to
change the distance as well you cannot
make this sound bigger and put it here
it's not going to work for you and
everybody's gonna think you are stupid
because because the angular diameter can
be measureable from Earth you cannot
miss with that 0.32 degree is something
you can measure from Earth so oh so they
put the Sun 93 million miles away all
right and then the weird thing happened
in 9 mm and 17 in the eclipse that
happened in 21 August I don't know if
you still remember that Eclipse and over
the United States all right a growing
number of NASA scientists started to say
that the Sun is much bigger than what
they thought it is yeah
and Paul in the plane saw the news that
I have seen before because we cannot
find that anymore I only found these
ones all right and you cannot even see
them I'm sorry anyway on the news say at
that time that the Sun was 250 times
larger than the actual size we imagine
when you make the Sun of the Sun in the
size of the Sun 250 times larger you
cannot put it so far away so the
distance is going to be big huge all
right and what does that mean I mean if
you change the distance you would have a
bigger problem because you are changing
the radius of the Earth orbits so the
Earth orbits around the Sun that's an X
radius I don't know that number exactly
so if you change the distance to the Sun
then you have to change the speed of the
earth you have to change the speed you
don't have any other option because you
are saying that the earth is orbiting
the Sun so you have to change the speed
and if you change the speed of the earth
you have to change the speed of the Moon
because it follows the earth right and
if you change this and that then you
will have to change everything else and
NASA is too smart to do this because if
they do this is gonna be
yes and nobody's gonna believe them in
this era of internet because we're gonna
communicate with each other we're gonna
know it and so if you were not so what
do you want to do what would you do
you're just gonna let it go
you're just gonna let it go because it's
a pain in the ass but we are not going
to let that go Nessa
yeah because listen this is the eclipse
this is their own website they say the
duration of the Eclipse is 5 hours
alright so if you do the math of the
globe model you will see that the
Eclipse should be only 4 hours 4 hours
and something so it's there are one hour
off and they know it they know if you
read this news I don't know I mean if
you look it up it's just one websites by
the way so if you look it up you will
see that they admit it they admit that
they have to increase the size of the
Sun to make the Eclipse work it didn't
work and they said that after we
debunked that many times people like
you're a boss darling from the Flat
Earth 101 Channel and probably globe
busters and jaren isn't did this so
we've been debunking this eclipse for a
long time and the duration of the
Eclipse doesn't work it doesn't match
reality so they had to do something
right they had to make the Sun the size
of the Sun bigger and of course if you
increase the size you increase the
distance if you increase the distance
you have to change the entire model and
they cannot do that they cannot do that
nobody's gonna believe them ever anyway
are not to mention there's some you
already know it that's it I mean this is
my this is everything and I want to tell
flat-earthers day if you want to draw
the Flat Earth Map and you have to do it
because this is the model if you if you
don't have the map you have nothing so
if you want to draw the map stop playing
with maps like Africa should be here
Australia should be here this is now how
you draw the map you don't know how the
map look like alright so you have to
start from the scratch and how are you
going to start from the scratch you have
to do the same thing they did the same
thing and you you will pop you will go
through the same problems and you will
know how to solve them you just have to
Pho
that's it because I mean I see a lot of
people a lot of flowers not want to
offend anybody they play with the
Coriolis effects time zones flight
duration this is not gonna work for
anybody I mean if you do that you will
never get the map exact you have to do
the angles because once you have that
the businesses are in the right place
then your map is accurate
forget about stars if you fix the map
everything else is going to work that's
it guys thank you
okay I'm now going to ask
thank you very much Zack the first time
ever a Karen if you could come up and
get yourself ready please I'd be great
while they're waiting for Karen to set
up I'm just going to do something that
Zack mentioned that I want to just ask
I'm about one point eight six meters and
I want a few of you in the audience to
actually tell me how far
