So Plan B was founded in 2005.
After I graduated the academy, I moved to
Austria for— to Vienna for two years.
I failed totally as an emigrant, I was a disaster.
It was not only my case.
Sherman Salvu was also— He went to Italy,
total disaster.
Victor the same.
He was— he went to Israel.
So 2005 was the year when we all returned,
totally broke and— and failed in every way,
[ laughs ] to Cluj.
I was living with my mother; they were living
with their mothers, you know.
And it was quite pathetic.
Twenty-seven, and you— you are back.
Your plans are totally— they— they collapse.
You have no perspective.
You're— you're back into a city, you know
there is no structure.
So we meet, I think for beers and— and coffees,
and we said, "What the hell are we doing now?,"
you know.
And the answer was pretty obvious.
We will build our own entity.
And this entity will have probably two or
three major functions.
First, will be a place where you can meet
and— drink beers, because— [ laughs ] and
share our failure, you know.
Secondly, we will try to make a program and
connect to other people who are doing the
same.
Because we knew that in Hungary, probably
is the same, in Czech Republic, in Poland,
you know.
So we didn't— we didn't hope too much.
We were so used with the idea of -of being
a loser [ laughs ] that we— we just did
it, without really an ambition.
The— the ambition came slowly, after a while,
when we realized, okay, that might be something
that might work.
It was a whole movement.
Everywhere in the East, we realized that a
lot of people from the Western Europe will
like to come and visit; but if they don't
find something organized, somebody to talk,
a name, a website, something, they will—
I mean, you know Cluj.
You know how if you don't have an insider
there, it's just— So as soon as we did it,
it happened exactly what we kind of expected.
People were starting to— to come and ask.
If you feel that— if you feel that you are
totally disconnected, that the world is far,
that you have no chance and so on and so,
organize something.
Organize a church, a party, a gallery.
Organize— put people together in a group
with a name or something, and— and then
try to build a program and— and send messages.
And sooner or later, somebody will receive
them and will be curious to visit you, and
then you have a connection.
And you have to explore that connection and—
and then in a few years, if you do something
interesting— then you have a root.
Then you have a— You are in, you know?
