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 We're in Huntsville,
Alabama to find out more
about Operation
Paperclip and its legacy
for the American space
program and Nazi UFOs.
 Hi, Bill.
Nice to meet you.
 Hi.
Thank you for meeting
with us today.
 Operation Paperclip originally
started in September of 1946
to bring former Nazi
rocket scientists
and aeronautical engineers
into the United States.
And they were actually given
political immunity in exchange
for technical expertise.
 Michael Schratt is
an aviation historian
who specializes in reporting how
the military industrial complex
covers up black operations.
 And we're investigating the
possibility that some flying
saucer technology came over from
Germany into the United States.
What evidence is there for that?
 There is a paper trail
to reference for this.
And this is an actual Wright
Patterson Air Force Base
Air Materiel Command document.
And it basically shows
you how this technology
was brought from the
Third Reich and trickled
into the aerospace industry.
It starts up here on the
upper left-hand corner,
German Air Force.
Then it goes into the
Luftwaffe, German research
and technical institutions,
German aircraft industry.
That flows then to the
Air Documents Division,
or T-2 at Wright
Patterson Air Force Base.
And then that gets
filtered down to the US
Air Force, US Navy, US
Army, American industry,
and universities.
 T-2 was the air technical
intelligence division
of the United States military.
Based in Wright Field,
Ohio, it analyzed
all the documents pertaining
to Operation Paperclip.
They also investigated
UFO reports.
 We have some really good
evidence that, in fact,
some of the British and Canadian
designs were, in point of fact,
procured from the
German originals.
They were working
on what was called
a VTOL supersonic gyroplane
using a radial thrust engine.
And that's Project Y.
 Project Y was an attempt
to create a vertical takeoff
and landing space car.
It was better known as the
Avrocar, films of which
show how hard it was to
corral a flying saucer.
 We were investigating
the bell before.
Did any of that
transfer over here?
 The bell, which was
approximately 15 feet high,
12 feet in diameter, it
had two counter-rotating
drums on the upper
section of the bell.
There was a central
shaft that went down
the center of the craft
that terminated in what's
called the thermos bottle.
And from the Germans'
own documents,
we know that a chemical
called Zerum 525 was actually
pumped into this vehicle.
And that represented
the plasma vortex
that was created by this craft.
 Is this some kind of writing
or inscription around the base?
 Back in December 9,
1965, we had an almost
identical-looking craft crash
in the woods of Kecksburg,
Pennsylvania.
And it, too, had the same or
similar hieroglyphic writing.
 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, 1965.
A strange-looking craft
allegedly crashes, and it
looks a lot like Die Glocke.
Thousands of people
see it, and they
even have a monument there now.
Now, supposedly, it was
carted off by the military.
So the line of reasoning
is, Nazis create the Glocke.
Their technology
comes to the US,
along with the
German scientists.
And they create
more of these craft.
 Since these craft
are identical,
is there a human link between
the Glocke in the 1940s
and Kecksburg, 1960s?
 In fact, the gentleman who
was the senior project design
engineer for the bell
program was a man
by the name of Kurt Debus.
Debus was launch director at
NASA between 1962 and 1974.
 This is the bombshell
we've been waiting for.
Kurt Debus, an electrical
engineer who actually was part
of Project Riese and
the Glocke, comes
to America to work for NASA.
He winds up the launch
director of NASA
in the 1960s, just when
the event at Kecksburg
takes place in December 1965.
This is the proof that I need
that some of the UFOs we see
are manmade.
Some of what we're seeing
up there isn't them.
It's us.
