>>> THE WHOLE WORLD WAS WATCHING
>>> THE WHOLE WORLD WAS WATCHING
THEM FACE QUESTIONS AND THE
THEM FACE QUESTIONS AND THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATIONS
TRUMP ADMINISTRATIONS
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE UNDER
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE UNDER
WILLIAM BARRS SUPERVISION WAS
WILLIAM BARRS SUPERVISION WAS
BUSY FILING A FORMAL APPEAL TO
BUSY FILING A FORMAL APPEAL TO
KILL THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
KILL THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
ENTIRELY AND DESTROY THE HEALTH
ENTIRELY AND DESTROY THE HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM AS WE KNOW IT.
CARE SYSTEM AS WE KNOW IT.
THEY JOINED 21 STATES TO UPHOLD
THEY JOINED 21 STATES TO UPHOLD
A DECISION TO THROW THE CARE UP
A DECISION TO THROW THE CARE UP
WITH LEGAL EXPERTS ACROSS THE
WITH LEGAL EXPERTS ACROSS THE
SPECTRUM SHAKING THEIR HEAD AT
SPECTRUM SHAKING THEIR HEAD AT
THE OTHER ABSURDITY.
THE OTHER ABSURDITY.
IF THAT DECISION IS UPHELD, IT
IF THAT DECISION IS UPHELD, IT
WOULD LEAVE UP TO 20 MILLION
WOULD LEAVE UP TO 20 MILLION
AMERICANS UNINSURE AND END-ALL
OF THE PROTECTIONS FOR EVERYONE
OF THE PROTECTIONS FOR EVERYONE
AND PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING
AND PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING
CONDITIONS.
CONDITIONS.
ALL OF IT GONE.
ALL OF IT GONE.
THAT IS THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHICHOF
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHICH
IS OFFERING NO REPLACEMENT PLAN.
IS OFFERING NO REPLACEMENT PLAN.
JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT
JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT
THIS AND OTHER MATTERS IS
SENATOR BERNIE SANDER, A 2020
SENATOR BERNIE SANDER, A 2020
CANDIDATE.
CANDIDATE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND
THEY DOUBLED DOWN UNDER WILLIAM
THEY DOUBLED DOWN UNDER WILLIAM
BARR AND THEY SEEM INTENT TO GO
BARR AND THEY SEEM INTENT TO GO
AS FAR AS THEY CAN WITH THIS
AS FAR AS THEY CAN WITH THIS
LAWSUIT.
LAWSUIT.
>> IT IS REALLY HARD TO
UNDERSTAND FROM LOGIC OR THE WAY
UNDERSTAND FROM LOGIC OR THE WAY
HE WORKS.
HE WORKS.
WHY HE THINKS THROWING 32
MILLION PEOPLE OFF THE HEALTH
MILLION PEOPLE OFF THE HEALTH
CARE THEY HAVE, ENDING THE
CARE THEY HAVE, ENDING THE
PROTECTIONS OF PREEXISTING
PROTECTIONS OF PREEXISTING
CONDITIONS AND DOING AWAY WITH
CONDITIONS AND DOING AWAY WITH
YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET HEALTH CARE
ON THEIR PARENTS POLICY, WHY HE
ON THEIR PARENTS POLICY, WHY HE
THINKS THAT MAKES SENSE AT ALL
THINKS THAT MAKES SENSE AT ALL
OR IS GOOD POLITICS IS BEYOND MY
OR IS GOOD POLITICS IS BEYOND MY
COMPREHENSION.
COMPREHENSION.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE
GOING DO AND I THINK WE ARE
GOING DO AND I THINK WE ARE
MOVING AGGRESSIVELY AND
MOVING AGGRESSIVELY AND
EFFECTIVELY.
EFFECTIVELY.
OUR ANTIDOTE IS TO HAVE THE
OUR ANTIDOTE IS TO HAVE THE
UNITED STATES JOIN EVERY OTHER
UNITED STATES JOIN EVERY OTHER
MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH THROUGH A
MEDICARE FOR ALL SINGLE PAYERH A
MEDICARE FOR ALL SINGLE PAYER
PROGRAM GUARANTEEING HEALTH CARE
PROGRAM GUARANTEEING HEALTH CARE
TO EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD
TO EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD
IN THE COUNTRY.
IF THERE ARE NOT TWO DIFFERENT
IF THERE ARE NOT TWO DIFFERENT
APPROACHES THEN WHAT TRUMP IS
APPROACHES THEN WHAT TRUMP IS
PROPOSING AND WHAT I AM
PROPOSING AND WHAT I AM
PROPOSING, I HAVE NOT SEEN
PROPOSING, I HAVE NOT SEEN
DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS I WATCHED
A BUNCH OF HEALTH CARE FIGHTS.D
A BUNCH OF HEALTH CARE FIGHTS.
I WATCHED THE ACA FIGHT AND THE
I WATCHED THE ACA FIGHT AND THE
REPEAL THE ACA FIGHT.
REPEAL THE ACA FIGHT.
IT IS STATUS QUO BIAS.
IT IS STATUS QUO BIAS.
PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF CHANGE.
PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF CHANGE.
CHANGE IN HEALTH CARE IS
CHANGE IN HEALTH CARE IS
TERRIFYING BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO
TERRIFYING BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO
WITH YOUR LIFE.
WITH YOUR LIFE.
IM NOT QUITE CONVINCED THE IDEA
IM NOT QUITE CONVINCED THE IDEA
THAT YOU NEED TO MEET HIM WITH
AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN PEOPLE ARE
AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN PEOPLE ARE
SO IN A DEFENSIVE CROUCH ABOUT
SO IN A DEFENSIVE CROUCH ABOUT
THIS INCREDIBLY FRONTAL ASSAULT.
>> I DONT QUITE AGREE WITH YOU,.
>> I DONT QUITE AGREE WITH YOU,
CHRIS.
CHRIS.
I THINK THERE IS PROFOUND
DISGUST AT A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
DISGUST AT A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
WHICH IS BY FAR THE MOST
WHICH IS BY FAR THE MOST
EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD, DOUBLE
WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE PAYING.
WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE PAYING.
WE HAVE 34 MILLION PEOPLE
WE HAVE 34 MILLION PEOPLE
WITHOUT ANY INSURANCE AND MORE
WITHOUT ANY INSURANCE AND MORE
WHO ARE UNDERINSURED WHERE THE
PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY IS THE
PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY IS
CHARGES US THE HIGHEST PRICES IN
CHARGES US THE HIGHEST PRICES IN
THE WORLD.
THE WORLD.
THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS AND PAYING CEOs AND
MILLIONS AND PAYING CEOs
OUTRAGEOUS PACKAGES.
OUTRAGEOUS PACKAGES.
THEY WANT SOMETHING STABLE.
THEY WANT SOMETHING STABLE.
MEDICARE FOR ALL IS THE MOST
MEDICARE FOR ALL IS THE MOST
POPULAR HEALTH CARE HEALTH
POPULAR HEALTH CARE HEALTH
INSURANCE PROGRAM IN THE
INSURANCE PROGRAM IN THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
IT IS NOT A RADICAL IDEA OVER A
FOUR-YEAR PERIOD TO EXPAND IT TO
FOUR-YEAR PERIOD TO EXPAND IT TO
THE REST OF THE POPULATION.
THE REST OF THE POPULATION.
>> SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED THEY
>> SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED THEY
WANTED TO GET YOUR REACTION TO.
THE FIRST EVER REBUKE OF AN TO.
THE FIRST EVER REBUKE OF A
PRESIDENT PASSED OUT OF BOTH
PRESIDENT PASSED OUT OF BOTH
HOUSES.
HOUSES.
BIPARTISAN BASIS TO WITHDRAW THE
INVOLVEMENT IN THE WAR IN YEMENE
INVOLVEMENT IN THE WAR IN YEMEN
COSTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
COSTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
LIVES.
LIVES.
YOU FAILED THE OVERRIDE IN THE
YOU FAILED THE OVERRIDE IN THE
SENATE.
SENATE.
WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
>> WANT TO SAY, CHRIS, SO ALL
>> WANT TO SAY, CHRIS, SO ALL
YOUR VIEWERS UNDERSTAND IT.
YOUR VIEWERS UNDERSTAND IT.
WHATS GOING ON IS THE WORST
HUMANITARIAN DISASTER ON THE
HUMANITARIAN DISASTER ON THE
FACE OF THE PLANET.
FACE OF THE PLANET.
IN IF WAR CONTINUES, BY THE END
IN IF WAR CONTINUES, BY THE END
OF THE YEAR, 200,000 PEOPLE,
OF THE YEAR, 200,000 PEOPLE,
MOSTLY CHILDREN, WILL BE DEAD.
IF IT CONTINUES BEYOND THAT,D.
IF IT CONTINUES BEYOND THAT,
THERE WILL BE MASSIVE FAMINE
THERE WILL BE MASSIVE FAMINE
WITH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL
WITH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL
DIE.
DIE.
THIS WAR HAS GOT TO END AND THE
UNITED STATES CANNOT CONTINUE TO
UNITED STATES CANNOT CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT THE SAUDI-LED
SUPPORT THE SAUDI-LED
INTERVENTION CAUSING SO MUCH
HORROR IN THAT IMPOVERISHEDH
HORROR IN THAT IMPOVERISHED
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
HERES THE GOOD NEWS.
WE LOST THE VOTE TODAY TO
WE LOST THE VOTE TODAY TO
OVERRIDE TRUMPS VETO, BUT WHAT
OVERRIDE TRUMPS VETO, BUT WHAT
WE HAVE DONE IS FOR THE FIRST
WE HAVE DONE IS FOR THE FIRST
TIME AS YOU INDICATED, ACTUALLY
TIME AS YOU INDICATED, ACTUALLY
HAD RESOLUTIONS PASS THE HOUSE
HAD RESOLUTIONS PASS THE HOUSE
AND THE SENATE THROUGH THE WAR
AND THE SENATE THROUGH THE WAR
POWERS ACT WHICH IS 45 YEARS
POWERS ACT WHICH IS 45 YEARS
OLD.
OLD.
THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN
THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
LET ME BE CLEAR.
LET ME BE CLEAR.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE
PROCESS, NOT THE END. OF THE
PROCESS, NOT THE END.
WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IS
WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IS
CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS OF THE
CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE.
SENATE.
PEOPLE LIKE MIKE LEE WHO
UNDERSTAND THAT ITS THEO
UNDERSTAND THAT ITS THE
CONSTITUTION THAT TELLS US ITS
CONSTITUTION THAT TELLS US ITS
CONGRESS THAT DECLARES WAR, NOT
CONGRESS THAT DECLARES WAR, NOT
THE PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT.
THEY WORK WITH PROGRESSIVES AND
BRING MORE PEOPLE ON BOARD. AND
BRING MORE PEOPLE ON BOARD.
YOU WILL SEE US EXPAND TO TAKE A
YOU WILL SEE US EXPAND TO TAKE A
LOOK AT MORE WARS AND MAKE SURE
LOOK AT MORE WARS AND MAKE SURE
THE CONGRESS REESTABLISHES ITS
THE CONGRESS REESTABLISHES ITS
CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY.
CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING YOU TWEETED ABOUT
CHINA.ING YOU TWEETED ABOUT
CHINA.
YOU SAID SINCE THE CHINA TRADE
DEAL, I VOTED AGAINST, ITSRADE
DEAL, I VOTED AGAINST, ITS
WRONG TO PRETEND THAT CHINA IS
WRONG TO PRETEND THAT CHINA IS
NOT AN ECONOMIC COMPETITOR.
THAT APPEARED TO BE A RESPONSE
THAT APPEARED TO BE A RESPONSE
TO SOMETHING JOE BIDEN SAID AND
TO SOMETHING JOE BIDEN SAID AND
I WANT TO PLAY WHAT HE SAID AND
I WANT TO PLAY WHAT HE SAID AND
ASK YOU SQUARELY.
HERES WHAT JOE BIDEN SAID.
HERES WHAT JOE BIDEN SAID.
>> CHINA IS GOING TO EAT OUR
>> CHINA IS GOING TO EAT OUR
BUNCH.
BUNCH.
COME ON, MAN.
THEY CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO
THEY CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THEY
DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THEY
HAVE THIS GREAT DIVISION BETWEEN
HAVE THIS GREAT DIVISION BETWEEN
THE CHINA SEA AND THE MOUNTAINS
THE CHINA SEA AND THE MOUNTAINS
IN THE WEST.
IN THE WEST.
THEY CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DEAL WITH THE CORRUPTION IN THE
DEAL WITH THE CORRUPTION IN THE
SYSTEM.
SYSTEM.
THEY ARE NOT BAD FOLKS, FOLKS.
THEY ARE NOT BAD FOLKS, FOLKS.
GUESS WHAT.
THEY ARE NOT COMPETITION FOR US.
THEY ARE NOT COMPETITION FOR US.
>> WILL YOU RESPOND TO THE
>> WILL YOU RESPOND TO THE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT WITH THAT
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT WITH THAT
TWEET?
TWEET?
>> IF YOU DONT TELL ANYBODY
ELSE, CHRIS.NT TELL ANYBODY
ELSE, CHRIS.
HERES THE POINT.
HERES THE POINT.
>> GO AHEAD AND I WILL RESPOND.
>> GO AHEAD AND I WILL RESPOND.
>> THE POINT WE WANTED TO MAKE
>> THE POINT WE WANTED TO MAKE
IS I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT OUR
TRADE POLICIES OVER THE YEARSUR
TRADE POLICIES OVER THE YEARS
HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR WORKERS
HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR WORKERS
IN THE COUNTRY.
IN THE COUNTRY.
IF YOU HAVE THE JOB LOSS AS A
IF YOU HAVE THE JOB LOSS AS A
RESULT OF NAFTA THAT JOE VOTED
RESULT OF NAFTA THAT JOE VOTED
FOR.
FOR.
JOE IS A FRIEND OF MINE AND WE
WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN A
WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN A
CIVIL WAY.
CIVIL WAY.
JOE VOTED FOR NAFTA AND PMTR
JOE VOTED FOR NAFTA AND PMTR
WITH CHINA AND THE TWO POLICIES
TOGETHER.A AND THE TWO POLICIES
TOGETHER.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LOSS
OF MORE THAN FOUR MILLION JOBS.
OF MORE THAN FOUR MILLION JOBS.
BY THE WAY, A RACE TO THE FWHOMB
BY THE WAY, A RACE TO THE FWHOMB
WHERE MANY LOWERED WAGES AND
WHERE MANY LOWERED WAGES AND
THREATENED WORKERS AND IF THEY
THREATENED WORKERS AND IF THEY
DIDNT LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD
DIDNT LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD
MOVE TO CHINA OR MEXICO.
MOVE TO CHINA OR MEXICO.
I THINK CHINA IS OBVIOUSLY ONE
I THINK CHINA IS OBVIOUSLY ONE
OF THE FASTEST GROWING ECONOMIES
IN THE WORLD OVER THE LAST 20IES
IN THE WORLD OVER THE LAST 20
YEARS.
YEARS.
I THINK THAT WE NEED A TRADE
I THINK THAT WE NEED A TRADE
POLICY WITH CHINA THAT IS BASED
POLICY WITH CHINA THAT IS BASED
ON PRINCIPALS OF FAIRNESS, NOT
ON PRINCIPALS OF FAIRNESS, NOT
UNFETTERED FREE TRADE.
UNFETTERED FREE TRADE.
>> TO GIVE THE VERSION OF WHAT
>> TO GIVE THE VERSION OF WHAT
THE VICE PRESIDENT SEEMED TO BE
THE VICE PRESIDENT SEEMED TO BE
SAYING, IT SEEMED THAT PART OF
SAYING, IT SEEMED THAT PART OF
WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THIS IS NOT
WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THIS IS NOT
A ZERO SUM PROPOSITION THE WAY
A ZERO SUM PROPOSITION THE WAY
DONALD TRUMP THINKS ABOUT IT.
DONALD TRUMP SAID ANY GAIN BY
DONALD TRUMP SAID ANY GAIN BY
ANYONE ELSE IS A LOSS FOR US.
ANYONE ELSE IS A LOSS FOR US.
A GAIN FOR CHINA OR MEXICO IS A
A GAIN FOR CHINA OR MEXICO IS A
LOSS FOR US.
LOSS FOR US.
THATS A BAD WAY OF THINKING.
>> I AGREE. WAY OF THINKING.
>> I AGREE.
ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
CHINA DESERVES CREDIT.
CHINA DESERVES CREDIT.
IF IM NOT MISTAKEN, CHINA HAS
IF IM NOT MISTAKEN, CHINA HAS
DONE A BETTER JOB IN WIPING OUTS
DONE A BETTER JOB IN WIPING OUTS
DESPERATE LEVELS OF POVERTY OVER
DESPERATE LEVELS OF POVERTY OVER
A 40 OR 40-YEAR PERIOD THAN ANY
A 40 OR 40-YEAR PERIOD THAN ANY
COUNTRY IN HISTORIMENT I AM NOT
COUNTRY IN HISTORIMENT I AM NOT
ANTI-CHINA.
ANTI-CHINA.
WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH TRADE
WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH TRADE
POLICIES WHICH DO NOT ALLOW
POLICIES WHICH DO NOT ALLOW
CORPORATE AMERICA TO SHUT DOWN
CORPORATE AMERICA TO SHUT DOWN
IN THIS COUNTRY AND REFUSE TO
IN THIS COUNTRY AND REFUSE TO
PAY WORKERS A DECENT WAGE AND
PAY WORKERS A DECENT WAGE AND
MOVE TO COUNTRY WHERE IS THEY
MOVE TO COUNTRY WHERE IS THEY
PAY PENNIES AN HOUR.
PAY PENNIES AN HOUR.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD DO IS
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD DO IS
USE THE LEVERAGE OF THE FEDERAL
USE THE LEVERAGE OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO SAY TO THOSE
GOVERNMENT TO SAY TO THOSE
COMPANIES THAT IF YOU WANT TO
SHUT DOWN HERE AND MOVE ABROAD
SHUT DOWN HERE AND MOVE ABROAD
AND YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO
AND YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO
GET FEDERAL CONTRACTS, YOU MIGHT
GET FEDERAL CONTRACTS, YOU MIGHT
WANT TO THINK AGAIN.
WANT TO THINK AGAIN.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE A GOOD
YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE A GOOD
CORPORATE PERSON.
