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Adele Adele welcome to our show. Thank you. Welcome
What makes this album 21 so different from your first album 19
I knew from when I was still promoting my first album that I definitely still wanted to progress a bit with with my second record
And I didn't know how much I wanted to I knew that I wanted to go down a bit more of a bluesier
Gospel kind of route and be a bit more kind of playful and cheeky and kind of sarcastic
But I didn't want to stray too far obviously because my fans
Who enjoyed chasing pavements and hometown glory and songs like that so much of the first record, you know
I didn't want to lose them. I didn't want to alienate them or anything
So I was quite I struggled for a few months to work out. What kind of sound I wanted to go for both
So, you know the first record I come across really serious, you know
and I'm actually actually really like trying to be funny and having a laugh and
You know like a young woman run within like an old person, you know
I knew there was a two key things I wanted to change and I wanted a few upbeat songs as well Adele
We had just listened to your single chasing pavements that was off of your first album. Would you agree that?
The new album has a lot of chasing pavement moments in it prior to the rains a little bit of a chasing pavements
Isn't it? Yeah, my best friend my gay best friend. He was like, what are you gonna write me gay anthem?
To the rain, you can't really get much camper than that so would you say it's still about love and relationships?
Or you're approaching it from different angles and is talking about letting go being hurt. Yeah, are these first-hand?
Experiences or are you just playing roles? No, no, it's oh, yeah my experience
Yeah, again, it doesn't change when you are successful in your career. It doesn't change at home at all
If anything it gets worse, but ya know it's the same things. It's not about the same person. I don't like recycling old loves
Yeah, it's about that
It's about it's pretty much the same subject except that you know
It's my first proper adult relationship this records about it was not proper commitment
No, like money and everything sharing absolutely everything in our lives
Which was my first time of doing that and I'm more mature in relationships
especially more mature in my last relationship than I was in the
Relationship of 19 and I realized for the first time which was something that comes of age
So appropriate that's why I called the album time is that I'm actually not that great a girlfriend
The best girlfriend in the world is I'm rubbish and I'm really expecting
And I've got so many flaws and I'm really needy and I I was getting jealous in my last relationship and I'm being honest
I am the least jealous person
I know like I fully embrace
Everything like I mean, I'm up for I support everything and everyone and but I was nice getting night
I was getting jealous of like teenage girls like fancy my fella. Yeah, we live and learn. That's the truth
so
What really is the difference?
between
this record and the last record that comes across me being jealous of teenagers actually rumor has it which is the second thing on the
album which is just is its comedy no one to take it seriously, but there's a line in the second verse that goes and
She's half your age, but I'm guessing that's the reason you stayed. Um, which is an exaggerated
Comment on how I felt so Adele
Let me ask you would you say the last record was the complicated boyfriend and this one is the complicated you
He was in India and he pulled you out in me, you know now that you've been through a couple of nasty
Relationships you think that you're you're a lot smarter when it comes to relationships
well, yeah, you know, I know myself around like I just said
Yeah, I'm not yeah, I know I know what you have to put in a relationship to get out of you know, um
And also like, you know before this relationship, you know when you're young and you I mean I'm young anyway
but when I was younger, um
Relationships are quite flimsy, even though they mean a lot. It's still quite playground age
I mean you can you can decide and you know, go to sleep and then wake in the morning
I don't want to be here anymore. And it's not a big deal. Yeah, I mean, where was this time?
Yeah, I just yeah
I think the main motto I've learned and why is it get we put in there's money buy you love no, no
Well, even though it was a really difficult time in your life
It made a heck of a contribution to this record because it's amazing
I wanted to ask you the first time you made an appearance on Saturday Night Live in America
How significant was it to the change of your career? Yeah, that was truly truly amazing. Actually just to be part of it anyway
before it turned into what it did that night was um was
Kind of an American institution and Josh Brolin was on it
Which was amazing some of the biggest Goonies fan and then and then I heard that Tina Fey might be on it
so when I got
I was talking to Josh Brolin on the Friday and we would like I'll be amazing if Tina Fey comes along so obviously it was
So amazing impersonation and then I'll turn up on Saturday and I saw Sarah Palin before it was Tina Fey
So it's going Tina, Tina Tina
Palin's you didn't even notice
but the show is amazing and I did meet but she wanted to come to my dressing room, but
Like everyone on my plan was called a gay and they're like if she comes in this room
I'm not doing your face for you, you know because they all hated her
Yeah, and then everyone else came on it and Alec Baldwin
Marky Mark
Everyone came when it was truly amazing and then I'll just literally watch the album go up on iTunes and stuff
It was amazing. You've been doing some guest star roles in television. Is that something that you're interested in pursuing?
Well, you know what? I mean, I was I did actually Betty
America actually I met America not America the place America the actress Ugly Betty
I met her at SNL was over she came down with it with their partner to come and see me and
She was like, I'm gonna get you on the show
I'm gonna get in the show, and I was didn't believe I was at. All right. Well nice to meet you. Thanks
Anyway, you know, and then I producers came down to the show and they said the same thing
But I was still a bit like yeah, you won't you won't but thank you
You know
And then I was on it and then we've had quite a few offers actually since then
For me to be in kind of like comedy and sketch shows and series, but I can't act to save my life
I can't I couldn't even watch a Glee Betty. I was just on the floor cringing. I'm so embarrassed
I mean, yeah, I was just a girl but you was telling me about it's not even I'm English
I started putting on an English accent don't like, you know, an American person dries in person and Russell Brand or something
I saw talking like that even though I'm already English. Yeah, I wouldn't do again
I mean I do I can bet you again
Obviously, it's not an air anymore
But I wouldn't do any other ones and I'd love if I ever if I got to performed on SNL again
I'd love to do a little sketch show and want to be in one of the sketches for that
That'd be a lot of fun your first single off of 21 rolling in the deep' it seems like you are
Basically singing the blues. Is that something that you are looking for. Yeah voting it was perfect actually
I had the first verse I've had it about two years
Pretty much about the I wrote the first verse in the back of a cab on the way back from a TV show in in
Amsterdam in the boy in back of a car but ya know it's exactly what I wanted. I couldn't finish it
So I wrote it a cappella and then I couldn't get to a chorus because the melody in the verse is sort of more memorable
Than we even what the chorus is now, but I didn't know how to get there
So and I just put it on hold and kind of forgot about it
And then I went in the studio with Paul Epworth who I met when I did be bees on my best friend Japanese record
Only second records and he was so much fun Paul and he's so exciting like he's got so many ideas
That sometimes it's impossible to keep up
it's so inspiring like I mean and
Compared to that
Usually a first session with someone's a bit like quiet and a bit awkward because both bit embarrassed
Like kind of fell out throw ideas around and stuff like that
I will just straight away into rolling in a deep and it was finished in one session
but I was really got inspired by wonder Jackson when I was touring in America and I loved out dirty and spicy and raunchy and
You know fighting talked all of her songs were and the themes all of their themes are
Brilliant like memory mounting and finally of love and I am silk pillowcases and all that light. So am I really sort of
Imagined stepping in though. I kind of imagined what would launder Jackson do to this song, you know?
And then and then I think I've portrayed that quite well in rolling in the deep' and I was angry
I mean, I think when I want another ballads, you know, I was angry, you know
It was about an argument the last argument or even conversation I had with my ex and he was telling me that
my life was gonna be rubbish and boring and I was gonna gonna be lonely and then I was a weak person if I couldn't
Stay in that relationship, but it was a relationship
I already felt fucking miserable win and really didn't fill up myself him and my heart was just pounding
I don't get angry very often when I do get angry. I can feel my blood
I can feel my all of my organs and all of my body and yeah
My I didn't want to kind of be like should I give up?
Getting my house. You bastard
There's been a lot of talk that this record has a strong country influence the way I see it
It's only one song. I said that in one of my early interviews
I think I it was in an interview that I was doing while I was recording the record in Malibu. I
Was speaking a lot about country because country is a very new part of my life and my bus driver when I was in America
Was from Tennessee and he introduced me to this country and kind of bluegrass music and made me
Compilations and we'd stay up all night while we were well
He was driving
obviously he had to stay up because he was driving but I'd stay out with him a mood is kind of listening to
Old school country and contemporary country and stuff like that and I fell in love of it as I was saying
Talking about don't remember which is the song that has got a very Americana country tinge to it
And I think it's got a bit misconstrued and a bit like Chinese whispers and everyone thinks I've got a country record
but I mean, can you imagine me doing a country recorded my accent, but I'm very inspired by the
Melodies and lyrics in country and that I've definitely incorporated into this record
I find them so romantic and to the point so that I've incorporated into it but not the banjos and stuff
not the stereotypical
Cowboy hats and all of that but you already had a taste in Nashville when you worked with Jack White and the racketeers
Didn't you we do fret together? We work together on a song called many shades of black with him and the Raconteurs
Yeah, it was brilliant. It's really cool. And then when I was on tour and I'll stop by Nashville
We were gonna go in the studio the next day but to do the long journey to Detroit overnight as we can do it. Yeah
Nico for a few days and but yeah
I'm definitely gonna meet up with him and I'd definitely like to do some writing and stuff with him
I think that would be very interesting you and Jack working together now the Cure the band
Why did you cover them? Well, I mean I wanted to have a cover on the album
I knew that is no official initially. My first choice was never tear us apart by INXS just good
I loved that song and it was the first song I ever learned to play on piano
And I loved Michael Hutchence his voice and I just loved the song but it's a very good reason that no-one's
successfully covered that songs because no one can sing it as well as Michael Hutchence and
So there is a version by me probably will see the light of day at some point
I imagined but not putting about 20 years
so there is a version or there is a version but it's not on the record and then
So I said to me I don't want to use this when I don't come bond with it that with me when I'm singing
I'm really bonded to their you know their song, you know
so we were going for if you have options and then
He was just telling me a story about when he was going to be producing a Barbra Streisand record
But that fell through
But she wanted to do a bossa nova record of covers and him and smokey Hormel
Who's a guitarist who plays for bacon plays on a lot of the records that reproduces and played on my record played it to me
and I loved it and the Cure was my first show I ever saw as about three or four and I went to go and
See them infinity park in London with my mum and my mum was the biggest Cure fan when he played it to me it was
Kind of quite in like down the line of the recording process and I was getting really homesick
And kind of quite drained from singing all these songs that were mine
you know some my new songs or my new record the song does memory burst into tears really and just kind of
Rescued me a little bit. It's one take all of us me and all the musics just one take and my voice had gone
Which I was paranoid about. I think it really suits it and stuff like that. And yeah, I just I really enjoy it
I really love it. How was it working with Rick Rubin? He's one amazing producer. It was amazing. It was so overwhelming
I was over when I met him anyway, before we even started it records to government met him at SNL as well
SNL really was the most poignant moment in my in my life really in my musical life and he came down there and then I
Saw him again at the Music hares dinner
Which is a couple of nights for the Grammys and I sang a Neil Diamond song and obviously he'd just done a Neil Diamond record
So, how was your experience? How did you enjoy recording the record in Malibu?
Well tell you I didn't like Malibu very much
I loved being in the studio
But I wanted to I was gonna stay in Santa Monica Mick suggested that I rent a house near the studio
It was a lovely house and beautiful studio. Everyone lives behind a gate. You don't see anyone
You can't nothing's have been walking distance same as in a car the whole time
I'm allergic to the Sun pretty much Beach Boys. Don't fancy me and I don't fancy them
So I was pretty bored when I went in the studio. Well, it really sounds like England is home for you
So let me ask you what's next for you. We've had 19
We have 21 45
That's a deal I'll see you at 45, thank you very much
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