REASONING DO THE EUROPEANS
HAVE NOW OF STAY NOT GUILTY
DEAL?
LET'S BRING IN NEWT
GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF
THE HOUSE, FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR AND AUTHOR OF
THE BRAND NEW BOOK COLLUSION
HOST OF NEWT'S WORLD
PODCAST.
NEWT, RIGHT NOW IRAN KINDED
OF MADE A BAD TACTICAL MOVE
IN MY ESTIMATION NOW THE
EUROPEANS HAVE NO RATIONALE
FOR SAY NOT GUILTY DEAL
BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXCEEDED
THE PARAMETERS, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, ALTHOUGH THE
EUROPEAN REAL REASONING IS
THEY WANT TO DO BUSINESS IS
IRAN.
A LOT OF BIG EUROPEAN
COMPANIES HAVE VISION OF
MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR DEALS
WITH IRAN.
AND THEY ARE DESPERATE TO
MAINTAIN SOME KIND OF
RELATIONSHIP.
SO, I AM NOT SURE YOU CAN DO
ANYTHING TO THE EUROPEANS
BAD ENOUGH TO GET THEM TO
CHANGE THEIR PRO-IRANIAN
POSTURE AS LONG AS THEY
THINK THERE IS PROFIT THERE.
THE PROBLEM FOR THE IRANIANS
AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS NOW
WITH THE ATTACHES ON
TANKERS.
WE HAVE SEEN IT WITH AN
ATTACK ON AN AMERICAN DRONE.
THE SANCTIONS ARE REALLY
BITING.
AND MONTH BY MONTH.
THEIR ECONOMY IS GETTING
WORSE.
AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE
AND MORE UNHAPPY.
AND I THINK THEIR LASHING
OUT DESPERATELY TRYING TO
SOMEHOW CHANGE THE
CIRCUMSTANCE EITHER BY
GETTING US TO BACK OFF OR
FRANKLY BY GETTING US TO
ATTACK THEM.
I THINK THEY THINK THAT THEY
COULD USE NATIONALISM,
DEFEND THE HOMELAND AGAINST
THE AMERICANS AND I THINK
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS VERY
WISE TWO WEEKS AGO BE CALM,
BE PATIENT, JUST CONTINUE TO
INCREASE THE PRESSURE
ECONOMICALLY AND I THINK
THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO
BREAKING.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY, VERY
SHAKY REGIME.
GRIFF: NEWT, HOLD ON ONE
SECOND THOUGH.
YOU SAY THEY ARE CLOSE TO HE
CAN BRAG.
CLEARLY IRAN MADE IT CLEAR
THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP WITH
THE PROVOCATIONS.
THEY HAVE GOT THE STRAIT OF
HORMUZ.
THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT
PASSAGEWAY.
AND I DON'T THINK THE
PRESIDENT OR THE
ADMINISTRATION ANTICIPATES
THAT THEY WON'T SEE MORE
PROVOCATIONS.
HOW DO THEY RESPOND?
>> WELL, I THINK THERE MAY
BE MORE PROVOCATIONS.
THE FIRST THING I HOPE THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL DO AND
THE PRESIDENT HAS MENTIONED
THIS IS SAY TO THE CHINESE
AND THE INDIANS AND THE
JAPANESE WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO DO SINCE YOU ARE THE
COUNTRIES THAT NEED THE SOIL
IN REMEMBER, WE ARE NOW
ENERGY INDEPENDENT?
THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
POLICIES.
WE ACTUALLY EXPORT ENERGY.
SO, THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ
ARE NOT A CRISIS FOR US.
THEY ARE A CRISIS FOR CHINA,
INDIA AND JAPAN.
ONE LEVEL MAY WELL BE THE
CHINESE BRING PRESSURE TO
BEAR ON THE IRANIANS BECAUSE
THE CHINESE REALLY WOULD
HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM IF THE
STRAITS WERE CUT OFF.
AINSLEY: IF WE PULL OUT OF
THE DEAL, THESE OTHER
COUNTRIES AREN'T GETTING
UPSET WITH IRAN.
KNOW THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON
OIL.
IT'S UP TO THEM TO PRESSURE
ON IRAN NOT US.
BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF THE
DEAL.
WHY IS AMERICA UPSET.
WHY ARE THEY UPSET WHEN
AMERICA PULLED OUT OF THE
DEAL?
ISN'T IT UP TO THE OTHER
COUNTRIES?
THEY NEED TO PUSH BACK ON
IRAN THAT ARE STILL IN THIS
DEAL WITH THEM?
>> YES.
YOU KNOW, LOOK.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT I
SUSPECT HE HAD THIS
CONVERSATION AT THE G-20.
HE NEEDS TO REMIND THE
CHINESE THE JAPANESE AND THE
INDIANS THEY NEED TO PUT
PRESSURE ON THE IRANIAN
GOVERNMENT.
THEY'RE THE LAST HOPE THAT
IRAN HAS AND THEY ARE MUCH
MORE IMPORTANT TO IRAN IN
THE LONG RUN THAN EUROPE IS.
SO I THINK IF THE IRANIANS
REALLY GO CRAZY, WE
OBVIOUSLY WILL RESPOND
MILITARILY AND WE CAN
OBVIOUSLY RESPOND WITH
ENORMOUS POWER.
BUT I THINK AS LONG AS THEY
ARE JUST BEING IRRITANTS, WE
ARE BETTER OFF TO KEEP
INCREASING THE SANCTIONS
ECONOMICALLY AND KEEP
SQUEEZING DOWN THE IRANIAN
DICTATORSHIP.
BRIAN: ABSOLUTELY.
AT THE VERY LEAST THEY ARE
NOT FINANCING THE TERROR
ORGANIZATIONS WREAKING HAVOC
THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST.
BEFORE WE SWITCH TO ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION HERE WHICH IS A
WHITE HOT TOPIC.
TALK ABOUT NORTH KOREA.
AMONG THE PEOPLE
COMPLIMENTING THE PRESIDENT
FOR DARING MOVE GOING TO THE
DMZ AND CROSSING INTO NORTH
KOREA IS DAVID IGNATIUS IN
THE "THE WASHINGTON POST"
TODAY.
TRUMP WISELY SEEMED TO HAVE
ACCEPTED THAT
DENUCLEARIZATION WON'T BE
IMMEDIATE DISARMAMENT BUT A
GRADUAL MONITORING PROCESS.
HE SAID SUNDAY SPEED IS NOT
THE OBJECT WE WANT TO DO
PROGRESSIVE GOOD DEAL.
BROUGHT UP THE PERSONAL
FACTOR AND DIPLOMACY.
CHINA MAY HAVE BEEN READY
FOR OPENING IN 1972.
TOOK NIXON TO GO TO BEIJING.
EGYPT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
PRIMED.
JIMMY CART TORE NEGOTIATE
CAMP DAVID'S ACCORD.
COULD THIS BE ONE OF THE
MOMENTS?
>> YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS
VERY TELLING.
CALISTA AND I HAD BEEN AT
THE DMZ A COUPLE MONTHS AGO
AND THINKING BACK TO THAT
EXPERIENCE, I THOUGHT IT WAS
VERY CLEVER OF TRUMP TO SAY
WHY DON'T -- TO DO A SORT OF
SEMI SPONTANEOUSLY.
WHY DON'T WE GET TOGETHER?
OH, DON'T YOU INVITE ME INTO
NORTH KOREA.
THEY WALK IN 10 OR 20 STEPS.
TURN AROUND GET A NICE PHOTO
OP.
WALK BACK IN TO SOUTH KOREA
AND SPEND AN HOUR
NEGOTIATING IN A BUILDING
EXACTLY TECHNICALLY IN SOUTH
KOREA.
WHAT IT COMMUNICATED WAS
THAT WE ARE ALLOWING NORTH
KOREA TO BEGIN TO BE A
NORMAL COUNTRY IN TERMS OF
RELATING TO IT WITHOUT
HAVING DROPPED A SINGLE
SANCTION.
REMEMBER, TRUMP DIDN'T GIVE
THEM ANYTHING IN TERMS OF
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS.
HE GAVE THEM A NICE PHOTO
OP., HAD A NICE
CONVERSATION.
THEY ARE NOW REOPENING THE
NEGOTIATIONS.
AND APPARENTLY THEY HAVE
UPGRADED IT ON THEIR SIDE.
I JUST SAW A STORY THIS
MORNING WHERE SECRETARY
POMPEO INDICATED HE THOUGHT
THAT THE NEW NORTH KOREAN
NEGOTIATING TEAM WOULD HAVE
MORE AUTHORITY AND BE MORE
RESPONSIBLE.
BRIAN: MIGHT HAVE KILLED THE
OLD ONE.
THE PROBLEM IS HE MIGHT HAVE
KILLED THE OLD ONES.
GRIFF: NEWT, LET ME TURN
TOPICS BECAUSE I WAS
COVERING THAT 2020 DEBATE IN
MIAMI.
WE HAD A MOMENT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT.
THEY ASKED THE CANDIDATES
RAISE THEIR HAND HEALTHCARE
TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.
11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS.
WE NOW HAVE A NEW POLL OUT
ON WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT
SHOULD PROVIDE HEALTH
INSURANCE TO ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS.
IT'S A CNN POLL.
38% SAY YES.
59% SAY NO.
3% NO OPINION.
WHAT SAY YOU?
>> I THINK IT'S CRAZY AND I
THINK PEOPLE THINK IT
THROUGH, IF YOU SAY TO THE
ENTIRE PLANET IF YOU GET
SICK AND SNEAK IN TO THE
U.S., WE WILL PROVIDE YOU
FREE HEALTHCARE.
WE ARE ASKING FOR AN
UNENDING FLOW.
BRIAN: YEP.
>> PEOPLE COMING HERE TO GET
HEALTHCARE.
AT A TIME WHEN THERE ARE A
LOT OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE A
HARD TIME PAYING FOR THEIR
HEALTHCARE, THERE IS
SOMETHING INFURIATING ABOUT
A DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHICH HAS
DECIDED TO CARES MORE FOR
PEOPLE WHO BREAK THE LAW.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
PEOPLE WHO BREAK THE LAW
COMING INTO THE U.S.
DEMOCRATS CARE MORE ABOUT
THEM THAN IT CARES ABOUT
TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE WHO
NEED HELP HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY CRAZY.
BUT IT FITS EVERYTHING ELSE
WE ARE SEEING.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IN THE END
HOT DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO
NOMINATE.
IT'S GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY
THE SAME IDEOLOGICALLY LEFT
WING PERSON.
TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH
THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
BRIAN: WHAT HAPPENED?
WE HAD CHUCK SCHUMER TALKING
ABOUT THE OUTRAGE.
WE HAD BILL CLINTON BUILDING
A WALL.
HARRY REID TALKED ABOUT THE
IDIOCY OF CHAIN MIGRATION.
THE ILLOGIC OF IT.
WAS THIS A TACK KICK CALL
MOVE BY DEMOCRATS?
DID THEY THINK THEY WERE
WRONG WHEN THEY WERE STRONG
AT THE BORDER?
>> I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED
IS THAT THE LEFT WING OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOW DEFINES
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE LEFT WING IS MADE UP OF
PEOPLE WHO WANT OPEN
BORDERS.
FLOOD PEOPLE.
WANT TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE
AMERICA.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE THAT AMERICANS COME
LAST NOT FIRST.
SO, THESE ARE THE KIND OF
FOLKS WHO, I WAS PRETTY
OUTRAGED WHEN YOU GOT A LEFT
WING.
[COUGHING]
>> EXCUSE ME, WHEN YOU HAVE
A LEFT WING DEMOCRAT WHO
GOES TO THE BORDER ATTACKS
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT US.
BRIAN: AOC?
>> WELL, THE DEMOCRATS FAIL
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
FAIL TO FIX THE LAW.
AND NOW WE HAVE A HUGE MESS.
BUT THAT MESS BELONGS TO THE
DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS NOT TO
THE BORDER PATROL TRYING TO
DO ITS JOB.
BRIAN: SHE REFUSED TO -- SHE
DID NOT VOTE FOR THE
HUMANITARIAN AID AT THE
BORDER.
BUT SHE DECRIES THE
HUMANITARIAN CONDITIONS AT
THE BORDER.
MAKE SENSE OF THAT.
>> YOU CAN'T.
I THINK IT'S TOTAL
HYPOCRISY.
I THINK IT'S FRANKLY
DISGUSTING.
AND I THINK IT'S SUPPORT OF
A GENERAL ANTI-AMERICANISM
THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT WING
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
GRIFF: NEWT, YOU HAVE THIS
JOB.
HOW DOES SPEAKER PELOSI NOW
TRY AND REIGN IN MEMBERS
LIKE AOC WHO ARE CLEARLY
TAKING POLITICS TO A WHOLE
ANOTHER LEVEL BECAUSE IT SUN
DENIAL NOW, EVEN BY
DEMOCRATS' ACCOUNT THAT WE
ARE IN A FULL BLOWN CRISIS
AT THE BORDER.
AND NOW YOU HAVE A HANDFUL
OF MEMBERS GIVEN TO THE LEFT
WING PROGRESSIVE IDEAS THAT
IS REALLY MAKING THIS A LOT
WORSE THAN IT IS.
HOW DOES SPEAKER PELOSI
REIGN THIS IN?
>> WELL, SHE DOES EXACTLY
WHAT SHE JUST DID.
SHE CAVES TO THE SENATE
MAJORITY LEADER.
I MEAN, MITCH McCONNELL
WON 100 PERCENT TO ZERO IN
THE STRUGGLE OVER PASSING
THE HUMANITARIAN BILL.
AND SHE HAD NO CHOICE
BECAUSE HER LEFT WING
WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING
RATIONALE AND HER MODERATES
ARE NOW ARE BEGINNING TO
REALIZE THEY ARE GOING TO
GET BEAT NEXT YEAR IF THEY
KEPT HANGING AROUND WITH
LEFT WINGERS.
THE ONLY THING SHE COULD DO
IS SIDE WITH THE HOUSE
REPUBLICANS SO KEVIN
MCCARTHY AND MITCH
MCCONNELL DEFINED THE BILL.
NANCY PELOSI WAS BASICALLY
LEFT WITH NO CHOICE.
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER
AND OVER FOR THE NEXT TWO
YEARS.
BRIAN: I'M HOPEFUL THAT
LINDSEY GRAHAM AND NANCY
PELOSI WORK SOMETHING OUT.
THEY SPOKE FOR AN AN HOUR
OVER THE WEEKEND.
LINDSEY GRAHAM NEEDS FOUR
AND SO WE DEED NEED FOUR
ASYLUM FIXES.
NOT POLITICAL.
MAYBE SOMETHING COULD GET
DONE.
AINSLEY, I DON'T THINK THIS
ISSUE WORKS FOR DEMOCRATS.
AINSLEY: I DON'T THINK THEY
ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN
YET.
BRIAN: I'M HOPEFUL.
