good evening and welcome to the council
Advisory Committee meeting of December
9th 2019 we are using Facebook live
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website we have a few condolences that
I'd like to pass on before we begin this
meeting the first goes out to our Piper
Ed Coleman on the passing of his wife
and - director bev gentleman on the
passing of her mom this meeting is
called to order have all of the
councillors received and reviewed their
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council have information pertaining to a
matter before this council which has not
been publicly circulated we will be
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matters except administrative are there
any conflict of interest issues we
should be aware of before the meeting
commences CAO rice could you please take
the roll call you're worshiping council
everyone's accounted for with the
exception of councillor Bolland who sends his
regrets for this evening's meeting
excellent thank you very much you have
before you the proposed agenda are there
any additions or deletions if I could
have a motion to accept the proposed
agenda thank you thank you all those in
favor
those opposed motion is carried thank
you
moving on to approval of the minutes you
have before you the minutes of November
12 2019 council advisory committee
meeting distributed and are there any
errors or omissions of the minutes if
there are no errors the minutes are
approved as circulated if there are
errors the recording secretary will
annotate the minutes in red and the
approved minutes will be added to the
electronic meeting file no issues moving
on thank you
presentations we have none this evening
so we will move on to our department
Department reports with recommendations
and the directors will present their
reports and they will be accepted into
record under one motion at the end of
reporting specific recommendations will
be moved individually as necessary and
counselors may
present questions and comments to the
directors at the end of presentations as
you notice our tables pretty skinny
today so the directors that aren't here
it will be assumed that you have read
their report but any questions that you
have you may present them to the CEO as
we as we file through it so moving on to
Finance Deb if you could start us off
please director Kroll I need I guess I
had to turn this thing on there it's all
good
okay good your worship members of
council it's my pleasure to bring you
the finance report for the month ended
November the 30th we're looking at the
benchmark this month at being 67% if
everything was averaged evenly over the
year on the revenue side of the ledger
we're looking at revenue exceeding the
average at eighty eight point four
percent recorded taxation remains
similar to last month's report at ninety
nine point seven percent of budget
payments in lieu of taxes have been
received from the federal government
we're still waiting for the provincial
claim and I did hear from them today
that they hope to have that paid to us
before the end of December services to
other government include the that
records that seconded officer for
Kentville police services as well as
services to Kings County for snow
removal cultural and recreation one-half
thus common is recorded along with 100%
of the county share of the library lease
the county also forwarded payment for
the recreation services for not only the
current year but also last year last
year's was accrued and this year's we
had not built out yet but they paid both
of those years the payments arrived over
the amounts accrued as well as the
budget figure for this year so in in
effect the total variance that we
received its twenty six thousand nine
hundred dollars sales the services
records the sales of kena police
services to for background check seven
months are recorded as revenue here and
we had we also record eight months of
sales of financial services to Kentville
volunteer fire department of the revenue
own sources reports on fines fees and
permit
reports above the guideline to the
collection of all those fines and fees
the annual dividend from the Kentville
water utility has been paid to the town
of Ken Phil and rentals reports below
the guideline because most of the
rentals relate to the arena ice rentals
under unconditional transfers two
quarters of the municipal finance
capacity grant this is the new name for
the equalization payment from the
problems in Nova Scotia we've also
received the annual power corporation
grant in the Nova Scotia a power HST
rebate which arrived in July under
conditional transfers the federal
government contributed ten thousand one
hundred dollars just for summer staff
salaries it's six hundred dollars in
excess in excess of budget
the remaining conditional transfers of
this similar to what I reported on last
month under finance can transfers all
budgeted transfers from various reserves
have been transacted on the expenditure
side of the ledger we're looking at the
benchmark being exceeded slightly at
seventy one point six percent expended
firefighting under Protective Services
exceeds the benchmark as the
third-quarter operating payment has been
made along with the second half of the
fire area rate tax collected on behalf
of the Kent lavalla tier fire department
dead charged payments exceed the
guidelines in most departments but
reflects the dip repayment schedule in
all departments emergency measures
exceeds the benchmark duty wages and
materials consumed regarding post
tropical storm Erin in August and
Hurricane Dorian in September under
public transit and to transportation
services this exceeds the benchmark that
reflects the payment schedule afforded
by King's Transit Authority and we also
received the deficit position which I
reported on last month we under
Environmental Health Services this
exceeds the benchmark but reflects the
funding schedule set out by Valley waste
resource management authority and the
public housing is the same as last month
it falls under the accruals there's some
savings there have taken that those
savings into this current year to offset
the deficit position we were reporting
environmental development services
Planning and Zoning exceeds the
guidelines with illegal expenditures and
other Community Development exceeds the
benchmark due to 100% payments made to
the valley ran and canceled business
community shade trees exceeds the
guideline do the cleanup
various wind storms this summer
recreation administration exceeds the
benchmark due to expenditures related to
summer staff and the payment of the
annual insurance premiums for liability
and vehicles programs exceed the
benchmark because most recreation
programs are held during the summer
month this vector also includes harvest
festival expenditures along with holiday
events on cultural exceeds the yardstick
is 75% of the provincial mandatory
funding pay funding has been made for
the regional library along with full
payments of budgeted grants to cultural
organisations debt charts principal
exceeds the benchmark that reflects the
debt repayment schedule all debt
repayment will take place by the end of
December there is no debt repayment in
January February or March of 2020
transfers to allowances and reserves
exceeds the standard is all transfers to
various reserves have been transacted
regarding the summary of outstanding
taxes with the Schedule C at the end of
November 96.5% of the 1920 levy is
collected and this compares to last
year's figure of 97 percent total
property tax outstanding at the end of
November is three hundred and forty-one
thousand two hundred and ninety nine
dollars as compared to last year's
figure of three hundred nine thousand
and eighty eight dollars this equates to
ninety six point four percent collected
in total and it's very comparable to
last year's figure of 96.6% Schedule C
and F relate to the perpetual investment
fund and this is for the this is for the
month ended October 31st the statement
of financial position shows the
breakdown of the instruments that we
hold vestments total around thirteen
point five million dollars then at the
bottom of that page you can see the
breakdown between cost and market for
the securities that we hold the
statement of reserves which is Schedule
F indicates that interest paitent at the
end of October was sixty three thousand
one hundred and twelve dollars dividends
paid into the fund total one hundred
twenty four thousand three hundred sixty
one dollars and capital gains are 127
thousand eight hundred and seventy seven
dollars and this compares to last year's
gain figure of one hundred and eighteen
thousand and fifty six dollars at
October thirty-first management fees
totalled seventeen thousand eight
hundred nineteen dollars as compared to
last year's figure twenty-two thousand
$719 and that page is blank why is it
blank on your end it is there was more I
don't know why it's showing blank I have
my paper one hmm well I suppose the
capital investment plan is the next part
of the report which is schedules gee
it's a whole section relates to the town
of Kentville capital program the program
showing at the date this was written
which was last week the program is
showing one million one hundred two
thousand two hundred fifteen dollars
recorded and the program details are
updated monthly also you'll see the
budget figures as well as the actual
figures in those reports if you have any
questions you can ask the directors and
I think most of the projects will fall
underneath are the recreation or
transportation services that's in
schedule H relates to the accounts
receivable due to and from the county of
municipality County Kingston that's
there for your information and that
concludes my report for the month ending
November 30 excellent thank you very
much director Kroll are there any
questions for the director on this
report deputy mayor thank you worship
I'm just wondering about the county
write off so we haven't made a payment
to them for we're paying we're paying
most things to the county of Kings where
we are we are have withheld the payments
related to the sewer treatment plant the
jointly owned surgery unplanned this was
that the advice of our lawyer not until
things were settled that that would we
would just not do that but we have
recorded them they're recorded but
they're not P okay
all right thank you any further
questions for the director none we'll
move on then to your projection report
please the projection report here's
disappears but I usually just precede
this anyway I don't go through the pages
anyhow so I'm just gonna talk about the
highlights you have the report in front
of you had it for a few days I'm just
going to the projected deficit is
reduced this month that is good news
we've reduced the projected deficit by
twenty two thousand one hundred dollars
as at the end of November and most of it
comes from the revenue side of the
ledger under the revenue side taxes are
increased slightly by two thousand
dollars we have properties that moved
from exempt status to taxable status and
those tax bills were sent out for those
properties and they've accounted for an
additional two thousand dollars in tax
revenue services provided to other
government but to others is up twenty
six thousand nine hundred dollars and I
spoke with just a few moments ago both
kind of Kings payment for recreation
services for the years 1819 and 1920
they came in those two years twenty-six
thousand nine hundred dollars in
additional revenue under sales of
services to our own funds it's up a very
small amount three hundred dollars I've
taken out the street sweeper budget we
haven't rented the street sweeper at all
that's come out at fifteen hundred
dollars but it's been replaced by the
sale of recreation wages to the capital
fund for $1,800 so a net of 1300 300
dollar increase in revenue to our sales
of services to our own funds our own
source revenue up very slightly six
hundred dollars miscellaneous kinfe
police services increased by 300 dollars
for transporting clients to Halifax and
miscellaneous recreation revenue the
$300 was granted to us for some doggie
poop bags so all told we're looking at
an increase in revenue this month twenty
nine thousand eight hundred dollars and
the projected increase last month was
three thousand nine hundred dollars so
all told projected increase in Rev
new over budget for the end of years
projected to be thirty three thousand
dollars and thirty three thousand seven
hundred dollars over budget and the
expenditure side of the ledger we're
also looking at being over budget in
this report General Administration is
showing an increase of four hundred
dollars related to office expense this
relates to external collection expense
we've collected some bad debts we have
to pay the collector for doing that so
through four hundred dollars has been
added to that line item under police
protection we're down three thousand
dollars the chief tells me that over
time sergeants will be over budget
$2,000 so I've added two thousand
dollars there but he's discounted the
building expenses by four thousand
dollars for heat and electricity and
communications section by a thousand
dollars for maintenance of communication
equipment she feels that those accounts
will not be tapped to the degree that we
had budgeted under protection sales of
services were down three one thousand
three hundred dollars from last report
and this is the reallocation of back
suck wages to other cost centers under
protection law enforcement were down
nine thousand five hundred dollars and
the chief offered this office savings in
the parking enforcement section under
fire protection we have a small increase
of seven hundred dollars this month this
relates to the hydrant charge paid to
the Kentville water commission and this
is based on the number of hydrants in
the town of Kentville and the number of
hydrants in the county of Kings and the
amount is just a mathematical
calculation and we we have a couple more
hydrants than we did last year so it's
up seven hundred dollars protection IMO
other is up nine thousand six hundred
dollars in this relates purely to the
August thirtieth and September seven
storms the wages of materials and
supplies just for your information the
total spent to date on both of those
storms totals fifty eight thousand nine
hundred dollars environmental
development is down one thousand seven
hundred dollars the savings and survey
costs and studies in that particular
department recreation is up eleven
thousand five hundred from last report
programs of reporting up four thousand
dollars related to swimming pool
expenses that were just booked in the
month of November and facilities are up
seventy five hundred dollars related to
repairs and maintenance of various parks
and play
in the recreation sector so the
projected increase in expenditures this
month is the only six thousand seven
hundred dollars but I had reported that
the increase in expenditures cumulative
last month was 74 thousand nine hundred
so we're looking at the expenditures
exceeding budget by eighty one thousand
six hundred dollars however a projected
deficit at the end of November has
dropped by twenty three thousand one
hundred dollars that was for my last
report two forty seven thousand nine
hundred dollars and that's my report
excellent thank you very much director
coal councillor Savage thank you worship
Deb just I just had a couple of
questions one the first one was around
expenditures on Protective Services over
budget seventy five thousand eight
hundred so I know under that is the
emergency measures other protection
which exceeds budget by sixty seventy
three right we've established that
there's no grants or any additional
money's coming from federal or
provincial II to cover off those monies
now or do there have been there has been
there's nothing coming for that money
that's that's been spent there they're
they have not cleared to my knowledge a
disaster okay they have not done that
yet but if that they did that would
cover mostly infrastructure from what I
understand our structure that was lost
so that would be of a capital nature
right right not not in terms of
operating yes so do we we have we have a
surplus not a surplus but we have a
reserve for that amount
do we not or that comes that's just
extra an extra costs on our operating
budget right now it's an extra cost
operating budget when lease when we add
all the numbers up at the end of the
year I'll find out where we end up with
the deficit yeah we normally I bring a
resolution to withdraw up kind of a
blanket resolution to withdraw any
deficit position fortunately the last
few years we haven't had one right but
will it won't know this until we add up
all the numbers at the end of the year
okay I think I just had one on
transportation services and that was
around the public transit exceeding the
budget by 21,000 right
we've already allocated that in have we
not like that's not something new
that's not something no but it is an
excessive budget but it it's an
extraordinary okay okay
okay thank you are there any further
questions for the director all right I
think councillor savages last question
leads nicely into your next report with
a request for decision from Kings
transit yes thank you your worship
I believe you've all received notice
from Kings transit they forwarded a
request for decision in early December
regarding its 19:20 capital budget and a
corps bus purchase in a nutshell the
background is something along these
lines 20 20 1920 capital budget for
Kings Transit Authority included a bus
purchase for the Corps at $400,000 to be
funded from capital reserves Kings
Transit Authority issued a request for
proposal for the supply of a bus for the
core partners the cost of the
recommended bid exceeded the amount
previously budgeted by approximately
$200,000 and therefore approval of a
supplementary capital budget by the
owner councils is required as outlined
in the inter municipal service agreement
for Kings Transit Authority in addition
the core bus will not be ready for
delivery until 2020 2021 fiscal year
however the pricing obtained for the
through the RFP process is guaranteed
only until January 29th 2020 so Kings
Transit is asking the core partners the
following that the 1920 Corps bus
purchase be moved into the 2020 2021
fiscal year the council approved the
additional funding required to purchase
the core bus with the additional funds
coming from the capital reserve fund
that council approved the issuance of a
purchase order for the core bus prior to
January 29 2020 and that council
approved the supplementary capital
budget is supplied by Kings transit
authority to support the award of RFP
kta
19:05 Sookie Kate Kings transit is
asking for a motion of council tonight
that basically reads something along
these lines
therefore be it resolved that the
Council of the town of Kentville
approved the supplementary capital
budget as supplied by Kings transit
authority to support the award of RFP
Katie a 19-0 5 thank you director
so we have a recommendation that council
advisory recommend approval of the
supplementary capital budget as supplied
by Kings transit authority to support
the are the award of RFP Katie a 19-0 5
to be ratified at a special council
meeting tonight the 9th of December if I
could have someone move that thank you
thank you it's been moved and seconded
that council advisory recommend approval
of the supplementary capital budget as
supplied by Kings transit authority to
support the award of RFP Katie a 19-0 5
to be ratified at a special council
meeting tonight the 9th of December
discussion councillor savage thank you
worship director Crowell what's your
recommendation is this your
recommendation this is not my
recommendation no I know
transit request what's your
recommendation I see no problems with
moving this projected bus purchase which
was to happen this fiscal year into next
year we would we have done that to
ourselves yes projects into the next
year and funded them differently or
funded them with extra money from
reserves so there's nothing wrong with
his moving it into the next year so they
have determined I believe that it was
determined that they need these buses no
this is the best way to do it they do
need to have permission basically to
write a purchase order before the budget
season actually starts right day for one
so they're gonna write a purchase order
related to this bus purchase in before
January 29 in order to maintain this
pricing so yes I agree with the bus
purchase
okay Thank You Cal Sir Andrew the only
thing I wanted to say and I was reticent
to share it last meeting but is that
there is a in while there's not a plan
and there is some research that will be
forthcoming that'll hopefully likely
lend to this I think some of this is a
bit of a based on a projection that that
what is going to come about from
research and and is a plan to
incorporate some smaller vehicles some
smaller more cost-effective vehicles
into the fleet and so that these and and
I think that was maybe even in that
report even the rationale for keeping
the buses the larger buses the idea
being that I don't want to say a
community but say there's a community
that's off of the main route that
wouldn't require a large bus we keep
those big buses running as quickly as
possible and so you have it could be in
our own town it could be north the north
end of can feel that there's smaller
buses that are doing more frequent
routes and getting people on that main
through fair that is what's being talked
about that kind of thing has happened
elsewhere and it probably makes sense it
is you know it is I was frightened to
come tonight no seeing yeah i I actually
didn't I expected a smaller number I
knew it was off but that's you know
that's a significant number and and you
don't like to see numbers like that but
it in order to continue providing the
service I doesn't seem like there's an
option and that's not a nice place to be
as a council but I think there is a
vision for much better service not just
a better service in terms of the
financial end of it but providing better
service for our resident students
excellent thank you is there any further
discussion
councillor savage thank you worship do
we know if the rest of the core funders
are in agreement with this
within the next few days they need a
decision before have there been any
discussions with the other councils as
to what they may opt to do not from my
end it's either one or all so okay so
even if there were to be in favor that's
great that helps okay thank you
deputy mayor thank you worship every
time I see a bus downtown there's fewer
and fewer people on them and you know
the projection of it was supposed to be
400 now it's 600 for a bus I think it's
about time our town took stock in in
whether this is a service that we want
to provide and at what cost we want to
provide it
I don't know it's just it's it's very
discouraging and then when you have you
know people that want to continually
provide the service and I understand
there's there's folks in the community
that need this service and and they
don't have a lot of money to spend and I
can appreciate that but I think it's
time that that the town takes a good
hard look at what we're willing to spend
to to keep this service going
thank you okay thank you councillor
Maxwell Thank You chair I'm wondering if
the ridership is up or down this year
councillor Andrew canty to answer that
it's it's basically the same the the
core which is which is this section is
down slightly I would say knotty it's a
negligible amount and but there is seems
to be down the other end it seems to be
a bit of a bit of a rise and so for
whatever reason but I think there is
obviously this is gonna be whatever
happens in terms of broader expansion I
know it doesn't necessarily impact what
we are asked to decide upon today it'll
be researched based and there it is
common to have those requests and those
discussions you know we're in whatever
town we're at every community and boy we
really could use this there's no
guarantee because just putting people
because people say they you're gonna use
it that they will but I think it's one
of the it's one of the things that I
certainly in discussions around this
that that oddly happen in my life and
discussions with even people who come
from outside of here is is is that we
have a transportation system that is
lacking and I think that's the intent of
the forthcoming research is to is to is
to look at the best way to provide a
good service
also I'm wondering if this bus you're
saying is smaller is it more
environmentally friendly or you know is
there that they're gonna be is this is a
larger bus yeah like okay I'm just
wondering why we're going to a larger
bus instead of going to smaller buses
that are more that was a question that
was raised in our group it'd be great to
see us move to something more effective
and more efficient at this time I think
the issue was in terms of the ability
locally of us being able to move to that
kind of model even you know somebody
said what about electric buses well we
just don't have the capacity and then to
make that kind of change without making
the change to to almost your whole fleet
and having people geared to fixing that
kind of fleet and having the you know
it's it's a very hard it probably is you
know you're signaling the future but but
that was definitely raised around the
authority table and it was determined
that we there was just no way in the
short-term the cost would be out of this
world I think was dead I'm just thinking
if you're if you're if you're doing a
bus replacement yeah you replace this
this big bus with a smaller bus and then
the next time you replace a bus you
replace it with another smaller bus
eventually you're going to have a fleet
of smaller buses instead of having to do
them all at once which makes more
economical sense to me that we would be
moving that way I'm just wondering why
the Transit Authority is not you know
willing to move like that because I
never see those buses full to capacity
so you know if we're going to expend a
lot of money hope for a bus I would
think that we should be going along an
I think this is part of a larger plan is
councillor Andrew was saying is these
are truly going to be our corridor buses
at some point and then we're gonna have
smaller feeder buses and if you've if
you listen to to councillor Hodges from
from the County she is currently the
chair of this this commission and and
she speaks she speaks to that and and so
I think your point is is taken and you
know when when mr. Bannon was came to
our our table so to speak to talk to us
about some of the concerns we had that
was one of the questions I asked him was
about the electric buses because the
city of Winnipeg is doing a wholesale
change over and I said why don't you get
on that order and we start ordering
these well the problem is is that you
can't you can't hold a single electric
bus because you just wouldn't have the
capacity to to make it go because of the
cost of all the infrastructure that it
takes to run an electric bus so it's
it's basically one of those
all-or-nothing things and we really
can't afford that solution so I wasn't
really thinking of electric buses I was
just thinking of a smaller bus and I've
seen those like you know they're just a
smaller size less seating capacity just
something that maybe counselor and ER
could bring up at the next meeting
and I certainly will I and I have
certainly visually it seems like the
same thing however the numbers seem to
support that there are a couple of times
a day at least and that could also be
addressed through some of that so it may
be that even in the core there's time
but especially moving forward with a
with a hope or with a strong thought
that there's gonna be these feeder buses
certainly moving that direction those
vehicles I would think we would move to
something of with more
you know but I will we will continue and
and certainly our chair on the authority
is is very green minded and
forward-thinking so we'll continue and
she is a bus user she has pointed that
out that she uses the bus to go back and
forth to university and and she says
that you know at those major times that
it's standing room only on the bus you
know she is she is an excellent
proponent of of this service counselor
saab each your light came on
thank you your worship i mean i'm
comfortable moving it into the next
fiscal year for them i mean but i think
you know there's a there's just when
they talk about some of the factors that
contributed to the dollar value in
excess of the budget and they say the
amount budget it was an estimate based
on an imperfect market related
information and assumptions on the range
of fed routes there's a good response I
think as you said it sort of speaks to
something larger and I'll be interested
to see over the next year sort of how
mr. bannon and and the and the committee
do with this because it's you know two
hundred extra thousand dollars is a
significant cash outlay for the taxpayer
so yeah thank you thank you deputy mayor
thank you worship speaking of the feeder
buses that I'll direct this towards
councillor Andrew I assume what you mean
is communities out in the county will be
so I guess my question for that and
maybe maybe we don't know the answer but
who's gonna be responsible for footing
the bill for those buses that are right
basically serving the county just to get
people here to the court I can tell you
that as we sit there and have sat there
and had those conversations that's
what's going through my mind because
mostly well mmm the vast majority what
we're talking about is is within the
county kings and
so presumably oh that can get you in
trouble
presumably the County of Kings would be
the largest partner to need to buy into
that and not that I think they're you
know from my understanding of the layout
of Kent Phil and we're things are I
think we could probably use some of that
happening in our town but by and large
you've got you know the smattering of
communities and we could probably all
name ten of them up and down the valley
that probably could use that kind of
service so I you raise a you know a
concern to the people in Kent Phil
probably not that we don't care about
our lovely friends you know 40
kilometers down the down the main road
but we don't want to necessarily pay for
their transportation service so that
will be something that will contend with
at the authority and and I think our new
CEO will be present in some of those
discussions too to make sure I'm strong
enough in yeah thank you thank you is
there any further discussion are you
ready for the question the question is
on adoption of the motion to recommend
approval of the supplementary capital
budget as supplied by Kings transit
authority to support the award of RFP KT
a 19-0 five to be ratified at the
special council meeting tonight 9th of
December voting is now open
now voting is now closed
and the motion is carried
thank you very much Thank You director
Kroll all right moving on our next
report is Planning and Development you
have the directors report and of note 19
million dollars is is our year year to
total building valuation so you have to
say that that puts us in in pretty good
shape is there any questions for the CEO
on this report councillor savage thank
you much
a question about the KCl and so it says
they're on course finalizing the cost
for excavation work I know I think it
was in the last either counselor CSC
meeting I had asked a question about at
the time that they saw in their docks
when when they absolutely had to start
putting the foundation of the footings
in or what-have-you did we find out when
that was within the 24 months yes and
that was from what date I'm thinking
it's been somewhere around we didn't
have conversation with them right and
they are planning to begin with the
footings okay they have just completed
to the construction phase okay that's
great and I just have one other
questions about the mcdougal Heights 26
lot subdivision between Acadia and
Dalhousie I know at one point here in
the last I guess it would have been last
year there was some discussion around
our to zoning has there been any
anything come up on that or it's it's
all deemed to be or looking at all are
one that's that's they haven't changed
anything
no and no requests or anything for the
twenty said no I'm not yet
okay great thank you that's all I have
all right moving on to our community and
economic development you have the report
in thank you sorry
okay Community and Economic Development
you have the report in your in your
package of note I hope or I'm I guess
I'm hoping that you've all seen the
second video from KBC and kind of gave
gave you a a warm and cozy for Christmas
shopping and in Kentville and you know
maybe some books are bling the other the
other thing in in that report from
Lindsey is the Visitor Information
Center and of end-of-season reports and
you'll see your numbers and I think one
of the things that that you have to
realize in in the tourism business that
our numbers are really good considering
that a lot of people are now traveling
internet style they go and and they're
basically going by the seat of their
pants they're not they're not doing the
kind of bookings and things that that
people used to do you know I can
remember people arriving from Germany
and having their entire two weeks booked
now they're booking three days in
advance and and that's that's about it
so you may see
see those those differences in the
numbers and and Lindsay did note that
staff at the center book close to 80
accommodation reservations for visitors
this season and and the other thing that
you should note is that those
accommodation reservations can only be
with licensed accommodation providers so
an Airbnb they cannot book an Airbnb for
somebody because they're not licensed
under Nova Scotia tourism so there any
questions on that report for the CEO
councillor Savage thank you worship I
just wanted to make a note to the folks
here at the town and KBC that the town
looks amazing I think it looks the best
I've ever seen it look and I hear it
from a lot of people they just say that
canful it's it's not that it wasn't
alive before but they just really feel
like in the last year so it's really
come alive with the addition of the new
businesses and people are really talking
so kudos to the team here and everybody
that's making this happen because it
looks great so thank you yeah all right
thank you
councillor Maxwell I would I would echo
those comments that counts for Savage me
it makes back to it back to Lindsey I've
heard the same comments as well about
how great the town looks and everything
I wanted to send thanks for getting the
tree lighted up on Belcher Street
however no it's it's fully lit tonight
it's but it looks like the Halifax tree
that people were all up in arms above
because the the lights are you know
falling down the ground on another side
and so it could use a little bit of TLC
when the lights are on so that the the
workers can see exactly what it
looks like okay yeah all right is there
anything else on this report all right
we're moving on to Parks and Recreation
so you have the Parks and Recreation
report in front of you of note
Centennial Arena again is in full
operation and anything that you're
looking for and bookings online are very
popular the other thing as well is that
our third annual Kentville plays event
was quite a success and people are still
talking about it and our torchlight
event as well was quite successful and
lots of lessons learned especially when
you end up with more people out than you
expect and places are too small so
that's probably a good problem to have
and I think that director Bedingfield
and her staff have already got some
solutions for next year so are there any
questions for the CEO on that one all
right moving on the next one we have is
the Chiefs report and that is as
submitted and approved by the police
commission and if there's any questions
I'm sure that the deputy mayor would be
happy to answer those or do you have any
comments deputy mayor no I think aside
from everything she does
excellent thank you son Oh councillor
Andrew you have a question please - oh
yes could you please just extend my
gratefulness my someone had some
fireworks go off illegally behind miners
marsh and my dog was in the backyard and
in a panic actually cut her ear cut her
back trying to get out of the backyard
through the fence
so I don't know if they caught the
culprits but and they were very pretty
however I lived down by the marsh and my
dog was running frantically
on Duncan so she was very upset and it
was I know that can fit police service
had lots going on that night
but they did take some time in their
rounds to give me some reports and where
they saw her running frantically and she
did eventually come back but anyway it's
also a reminder you know we have rules
in place and they may sometimes seem
petty and what harm can some fireworks
do but it was she's still she's still
shaken honestly she is she she's so it's
and they I don't know if we're thinking
about Prozac maybe you're please extend
thanks for that I just would like to
make a no you worship in Council as I am
been on both sides of the policing coin
with the RCMP policing in
unis policing and I would just like to
say that those kinds of incidences and
those kinds of comments only come with
community policing and I know sometimes
that we think sometimes that our
community policing budget is high or
somewhat I but that's what you're
getting you know and not to take
anything away from the RCMP because I'm
not but they just they don't do
community policing and so those are the
kinds of success stories that make the
decisions that you make around your
municipal police force only reason why
you make them I had Thank You CEO
councillor Pulsifer thank you I noticed
under stopping that there has been three
new officers hired three new full-time
officers no no right there term just
term there's a turn filling in the
abstract is what I was wondering
all right thank you are there any
further go ahead
I'm almost positive the three officers
went from term to full-time that was
back a few months ago before I even came
on the scene you had a whole recruiting
process so you had some some trauma or
part-time officers that went through
your hiring process and were successful
these are now replacing those oh yes
those officers yes
anything further on that report all
right moving on and we're now on to the
engineering and public works and
director Bell is here all right
good evening europe and councillors this
is my CAC report for December the 9th
under administrative I meet weekly with
Public Works crew to discuss ongoing
works and maintenance issues and talk
daily with the public works for me
to inform them of our our our resident
calls and or complaints under programs
and operations due to the number of
instance in near misses with pedestrians
at the left turn intersections at
Webster onto Aberdeen and Aberdeen onto
Main Street and in consultation with the
Catholic Police Service we have decided
to prohibit left turns on red lights at
these two intersections PSAs will be
posted on the radio Facebook and our web
page new signage will be erected soon
winter maintenance is officially
underway of course had a few minor snow
events but I think nothing too major yet
under projects Public Works the new
bridge work continues at a seemingly
slow pace but but steady I think what
we're gonna see all of a sudden you're
gonna see a bridge there and everybody
Wow but the work the work right now is
is slow and steady but but progressing I
understand on schedule
the capital paving projects are now
completed capital pipe work Mid Valley
construction this finish is finishing up
the 2019 portion of the West Park storm
storm curve and sidewalk extension this
takes the new sidewalk from Kentville
Toyota to seven bridges the remaining
portion from seven bridges to Anderson
Boulevard will be completed in 2020 the
cantle Water Commission we just Friday
submitted the earth there our annual
sampling plan to to nova scotia
environment they came back today with a
couple of little questions and I got
finalized this morning so that's
officially been filed with the NSC we
had some water main breaks were repaired
on Main Street here in front of town
hall and on West Main Street near the
skate park as well as water valve
maintenance on Park Street tender is now
out for a propane generator from
Mitchell Avenue water treatment building
that will allow the deep-well pumps and
treatment facility to run during a power
failure
I mentioned that during during last CAC
that it was proposed and now it has gone
to tender will be closing late next week
businesses in the Business Park such as
Robinson cannabis have the potential to
operate during power failures coupled
with the limited storage in our in our
aging Park Reservoir assess it take the
need to supply treated water during
these extended power outages the mer
seemed to be having more and more
I also attended my first capital water
commission meeting late last month the
end of November under sanitary sewer
utility again with our capital works
project the blossom Drive sewer
replacement down to Belcher Street is
now complete but the section scheduled
to be replaced on the Prospect Avenue
section may have to be postponed until
spring 2020 due to the time of year and
availability of asphalt it was a late
late tendering you know yes the
engineering was late being awarded and
therefore tendering was later Valli
didn't get started really until too late
this fall on their entire project so
that one
my recommendation is not to not open up
the street now that Asheville plants are
are closing in the coming week under
public engagement
we've met with multiple homeowners and
business owners impacted by our capital
works paving pipe work in sidewalk
projects had frequent phone calls and
visits drop-ins have been been moderate
and letter correspondence is needed I
will say the phone calls are down
significantly from my first month just I
guess being that first month everybody
was calling to welcome me I guess no the
calls have been have been been less
frequent but everybody's being taken
care of on our meetings and events we
have senior staff meetings every Tuesday
of course and regional Sewer meetings
the third Tuesday of the month third
Thursday rather and safety meeting first
Wednesday of every month and the Water
Commission meeting quarterly those are a
few of the meetings that I attended of
course on a regular basis and
that is my report for this CAC thank you
very much deputy mayor please the
sidewalk or the continuation of the
sidewalk the Bonavista correct how are
they going to shore up where the
shoulder washed away during the storm
it's very very narrow there and and
they're not going to do a whole lot this
season we we as Public Works have put in
a lot of oversized Rock and and I think
it's to the point where it's it's it's
stable for the winter but that entire
piece where they haven't finished is
owned by Parsons and of course Owens Mid
Valley and I think that's partly why I'm
it Valley even that was addressed in the
project they wanted to sort of be in
control of the how the how that was
filled in there because the the plan is
to depict the large pipe that comes
under under Park Street from I still
want to call it to our promoters but you
know the property I'm talking about it
against the CES communication see yes
exactly CBS rice business solutions that
large culvert that's where the washout
is occurring and it's it's not far
enough you know into the to the north
side of that of that almost call it a
ravine it's it's very very low Parsons
on that land it's it's zoned commercial
and they they intend to pipe that to
hook on to the end of that short culvert
that I just mentioned pipe it to kind of
a zigzag across parallel to Park Street
and then and then back north again to
hook back to where it normally meandered
through their property and fill that
property it seems like a big undertaking
to me to fill that to try to reclaim
commercial land but their their decision
I guess and their their choice to fill
it so that's that's on the you know
their short-term plan and
they plan to work on it over the winter
what they can do is some things they can
do is some they can't due to working in
the in the brook needs to be done during
June to September dryer dryer months
that's a force by environment but they
they're gonna fill it and bring it up to
grade and that's where a sidewalk will
be its next on that property which will
I guess eventually be a commercial
property Thank You councillor maxwell hi
i'm just wondering the blossom drive
easement to belter street will that get
paved before the snow flies absolutely
yes okay
my first I was told that it was hoped to
be paid today along with the the filling
in the pavement along Park Street bye
bye Dexter Dexter's doing mid valleys
paving I understand and that they want
to get things cleaned up this week prior
to their plant closing they may be open
a few days next week but this week or
next so I was hoping it's gonna be today
before the rains came but because we're
gonna get rain then we're gonna get
freezing temperatures will definitely be
paved okay good
for Christmas yeah I keep hitting it all
the time yes is is it down again I've
asked them to fill its down a bit yeah
it'll probably down more tomorrow thank
you if it rains
yes also I'm wondering about the
sidewalk on Belcher the the sods and the
weeds in that whole situation what we
still have hold back from from Dexter on
that and of course they've asked for the
whole back and I've told them they're
not getting it because of the you know
lack of
I guess attention and that house was you
know it wasn't maintained normally Assad
is to be maintained at least for the
first cut you know and it was putting
I'm not sure it was prior to my being
here in this role but I don't know what
time of year they place the saw it was
it fall last year it was probably just
the day before we started getting the
hot weather hot hot hot weather just
burnt burnt and yes the end of it yeah
so no it's there I've got to talk to
actually I think the the consultant on
that project and see you know we'll have
a meeting with them in Dexter but
nothing that can be done certainly this
time of year but no I'm just needs to be
resorted for sure yeah and then
something has to be done with the weed
situation as well because the soil that
they used was obviously dirty soil and
there's weeds where they're never used
to be weeds right camera where this all
even where the pavement meets the curve
on in the road
weeds are coming up there cuz the soil
would have dropped down into those
crevices so yeah it's pretty bad some
respects that you know I I don't know
there's pros and cons to sodding versus
hide receiving and and I'm not I don't
pretend to be an expert on either but I
think in areas there where it may not be
maintained by my property owners that we
might see a better longevity of having a
hide receded versus sawed it again if
they're not gonna be maintained but look
at those options good point as long as
it's clean okay thank you are there any
further questions for the director no
all right director Bell thank you very
much
you alright our next report is our
communications report Jennifer do you
have anything that you wanted to add to
this report or to pass on to Council
it was very successful to celebrate that
there in our community but also to share
some love thank you are there any
questions but the communications report
Celt sir Maxwell thank you uh-huh hi
Jennifer I'm wondering if the website if
it's complete now or if there's still
more work to be done on on that website
well I was looking for previous agendas
and so on previous minutes of meetings
past meetings and things like that and I
had an awful hard time going trying to
find where I was supposed to go to get
that information and and I know an
audience member tonight asked me where
he'd find the written information for
here and I couldn't even find it so I
just find that it's a little bit more
cumbersome or I don't know where to go
and I can't tell people where to go to
find the information that I'm looking
for they're looking for us
all of it attendez strongly but we can
start to load once I found them I was
okay but it took me an awful long time
to find them to find what I was supposed
to click on to get to that it was I
found it difficult just to let you know
Callister Pulsifer thank you on the pre
on the old website there were quite a
few years of minutes and agendas and so
on so just wondering why well I just
felt two years was not a long time to go
back I know prior I was always
interested in going back you know even
five years to see minutes from back then
it's of interest that's my that's my
personal opinion anyways
two years because the traffic on that
the older years was so low that okay
wasn't deemed right it's just just me
anyways okay
councillor Maxwell yes just to respond
to you I would like them on for at least
our term because I was looking for
something and I have my notes and
everything but I and I had written down
but I didn't have them complete enough
so that's why I wanted to go back and
find the actual minutes to see what they
said so I would like at least four hour
term of office to be there's Telstra
savage thank you worship Jennifer if
they were just archived is that easier
to like to load them up as archive
documents or it takes just as much time
to the same as it okay
I thought if it was archived it might be
quicker or something but no okay okay
all right moving on to the CEOs report
yes your worship in council as you can
see and you'll have to forgive my voice
here
we have there's nothing there with
valley waste and king's transit you've
had that discussion with regards to the
union negotiation so I'm very pleased to
say that I have held we've had two
preliminary discussions with the members
just myself in the chief and to two of
their representatives and we've actually
gone through the whole contract now to
get a feel of you know where they see
the contract what needs to be just
housekeeping what needs some real
discussion and so so they've been very
productive and
hopefully will kind of put together some
of the comments on both sides and we'll
have those ready to start again in the
new year the business park as you can
see it's still looking to relocate in we
do have an in-camera session on that a
little bit there's two sorry three staff
and two counselors that will be
attending the mentoring plus program
tomorrow unfortunately chief is not able
to attend due to personal reasons but
there will be three staff and two
members of council traveling down
tomorrow I did as you can see I did meet
with Jeremy Lutz and Julian Boyle around
the pace program and as you know I
explained to them it's not a program
it's not dead in the water from counsels
perspective they're still very very
interested in in moving forward but we
do have some some issues that have to be
worked out around the funding and
questions and so they were very
understanding and very open with that
there's a list of the meetings that I
attended and quite willing to answer any
questions did you have any I might see
oh thank you and a first question Kelso
Savage thank you worship you know right
there's a section there where it just
talks about the Business Park that the
commercial realtor and staff have
revised the marketing approach which has
supported the increased interest so I'm
just wondering how they've revised the
marketing approach it's nothing just I
think that from the Real Estate's
perspective they're putting a little bit
push on it from there okay it's not
something that we've done collectively
and handed in it's just they've just
informed us about their putting some
more push on okay thank you okay
Celts are Pulsifer thank you the cock
and building has there been much
activity there was there's been two
showings but we haven't heard any
feedback from those showings so I didn't
get a chance to ask Lindsey today but up
until Friday we hadn't had any feedback
it was just showing okay thank you
councillor savage thank you your ship
that just councillor Pulsifer made me
think about the catechol can building so
and just kind of going from memory here
but I know we had talked about the price
of same and we were sort of banned sort
of going back and forth on what the
income approach was and if it was fully
and we're preparing their report we're
working on it as you speak and we'll
have it for you for January okay so as
it stands right now purchase price or
the the listed price is the same as what
it was to see okay okay thanks now
therefore any further questions for the
CEO all right
we need a motion to adopt the staff
reports as presented thank you thank you
it's been moved and seconded that staff
reports be adopted as presented all
those in favor
those opposed motion is carried thank
you
we have a couple items of unfinished
business
the first is polity policy statement
g-57 Committees of Council you have
before you the recommendations for
amendments to the g57 policy statement
we have a recommendation that council
advisory recommend approval of the
amendments to the g-57 Committees of
council policy statement if I could have
a motion on that thank you and a
seconder thank you it's been moved and
seconded that the council advisory
recommend approval of the amendments to
the g-57 committees of council policy
statement is there any discussion
councillor Maxwell
uh yes thank you I was wondering why the
name changed from the admin and Finance
Committee to the council Human Resources
Committee if we had a reason for that
and why we chose that name the
description the terms of the finance and
HR of this Dao right so I agree and but
the use of the term Human Resources
would would set up a structure in mind
that would deal with you know personnel
issues and contracts and things like
that and and I think if we're going to
use the term Human Resources then there
should be a person who's qualified in
human resources to be on that committee
so I would make a motion to change that
name to what it talks about which is the
CEO evaluation committee you could make
that a motion
okay as long as councils agreeable that
that that
he is absolutely four point seven one
three you know and then you ask him to
move on to go into the documents for ten
for ten is the actual description of the
committee
councillor Andrew question was so the
mayor is no longer an ex officio member
of all committees that's correct
okay that was an old Hill holdover and I
actually was not on all committees right
right deputy mayor all right councillor
Maxwell I had a I had another concern
with four point one point seven
okay all committee members are subject
to the town of Kent Falls code of
conduct and the execution of committee
work and over the last three four months
but I haven't seen any fortitude on the
part of councilor administration to to
enforce a code of conduct at all and
until we can agree as a council and as
administration that we are going to
enforce our code of conduct and that
becomes a priority then I think we
should eliminate it from any policy
documents because we haven't we're not
enforcing a code of conduct here and and
just to stick it into a policy statement
just to say that we have one is you know
I I don't I don't agree with that until
such time as we enforce a code of
you know we decide as a council that
we're willing to enforce a code of
conduct and that code of conduct is
important then I don't think it should
be in our documents your worship in
council the document exists and it's
like any other document whether it's
enforceable or enforced it still exists
and putting it in there relates that you
are subject to following it and we can
move work do some work afterwards around
that but it is a document that exists it
was approved by council so therefore you
are so-called required to to work with
it so I understand you're acknowledging
the fact that it exists as well so I
mean it's not an issue if council wishes
it to be taken out I mean we can do that
but
you know it's part of your procedures
here so there is no harm in it staying
and the fact that it exists you're
recognizing that it exists and then
certainly council and the administration
can move forward and start doing some
work around that the herm the harm comes
when Paul you know the code is is
violated and then we don't enforce it
that that's where the harm comes so if
we're not going to enforce then I don't
think there should be a policy it's you
know it's like in school if we say there
will be no smoking in the building and
we allow people to smoke in the building
then what's the point of having the rule
so if we're not going to if we're not
going to enforce the code of conduct and
that's enforceable by us around this
table the mga does not deal with codes
of conduct it says we should have one
but it has no section on on dealing with
it it's up to us as a council to decide
that a code of conduct is important
enough for us to have the fortitude to
enforce it investigations don't need to
be done in public I don't know of any
organization who does an investigation
in the public the police don't do their
investigations in public human resources
doesn't do investigations in public
nobody does investigations in public
except the results of investigations are
brought in to the public and so if we're
gonna use those as reasons why we're not
enforcing a code of conduct then there's
just no there's no point in us even
having one or even talking about one or
even acknowledging that we have one and
I haven't seen any examples of us
willing and over the last three to four
months that we're willing to enforce a
code of conduct where are other councils
have enforced their codes of conduct
this council has chosen not to enforce
code of conduct so you know I would I
would make a motion that we eliminate it
that we you know until such time as we
decide as a council that this is an
important thing that we
need to do it counselor Maxwell we have
code of conduct
coming before our CAC in January as
agreed by this entire group and every
complaint has been investigated and
appropriate action has been taken on
every single one of the complaints that
have come forward and they have been
done with regards to the process that's
established and it was the mayor and CEO
that did the investigation and moved it
forward there was the only time that it
was looked at coming to council was at
your request and many of those items had
already been covered off in previous
complaints so I'm I'm going to say that
we have not been negligent in our use of
our code of conduct and as has been
pointed out previously is that we have
very little teeth because the province
has not given us any teeth but we have
exercised and we have had those
discussions councillor Savage you had
your light up I did yes thank you
worship I actually you had mentioned a
boat that we're relooking at this in
January and I knew that collectively as
a council we had agreed to take back the
code of conduct and to redline it and to
make some amendments as we deemed
necessary and perhaps councillor Maxwell
it probably remembers that I'm sure so I
didn't know if that made any difference
around the discussions but you you
mentioned that okay thank you I just
have one more thing to say as your
worship realizes our code of conduct
does not say that the mayor and CEO
enforced the code of conduct it's an
investigation by the mayor and council
and that process was not followed and
we've had that discussion and also the
teeth to the Code of Conduct as I said
comes from this group
it doesn't come from the province there
is nothing in the mga concerning the
code of conduct all the mga says is each
municipality must have a code of conduct
it's left to us to develop the code of
conduct and it's left to us to enforce
it yes and we've done that we haven't
done that and I'm not going to get into
an argument with you on that but the
process was not followed and until such
time as this council sits down and
decides that that one January as we've
already discussed and voted on by the
people around this room okay
Thank You councillor Pulsifer thank you
I just had a question about the
accessibility Advisory Committee and the
status of that and what's going on Thank
You councillor poster as a matter of
fact you have reminded me that I wanted
to to talk to Council about the that
very committee so I haven't made any
changes to that the wording around that
committee because I wasn't sure whether
it had already been discussed before or
not but I did notice that under that you
don't have any councillors listed to be
a part of that committee and I I think
that it's extremely important that
council is involved on that committee
you know there should be one or two
members involved we have we do have some
volunteers we're still looking for one
more volunteer with a disability but I
did I have had some discussions with
staff and it's been decided that in
January even though we may be short
remember we're going to start moving on
on this committee because you know
the timelines are coming ambassador than
you realized and there's a lot of work
to be done around this so I guess some
what I I would like to ask is is was
there a reason why there was no
stipulation about council representation
on this committee or is it are you open
to it and if so you know if you just
kind of let me know one or two then I
can work that into the wording of that
particular committee this wording came
from staff yes yes so the only volunteer
that I that I've had has been councillor
Andrew has hasn't expressed has
expressed an interest in this in this
committee but otherwise all the wording
and everything has been done at the
staff level for this committee so
council has not been involved in
anything that's been done on this to
date so I think it would be very helpful
to have that connection because
obviously a lot of the issues around the
accessibility and committee are going to
be coming to Council for approval
because it's going to be very budget
oriented so you know would be nice in my
opinion it I think it would be
beneficial to have a member of council
councillor savage yes thank you your
worship
yeah I'll just reiterate what Mayor
Savage I'm sorry major snow said sorry
that that this was all the wording came
from came from staff and you know I look
at our sister community in wilful and
they're they're sort of they're way way
ahead of where we are and so I you know
I I just would like to see this start to
move at a quicker quicker pace and I
mean if the recommendation from staff is
to have a counselor on board then I
think we should move forward with that
and just just keep just get moving on it
thank you
let's so we'll just add to that that it
says at least three of the members so we
will put on there that there will be one
councillor and all reword that to
reflect that is there anybody else that
was interested in being on this
committee it says six times per year
more is needed but I imagine in the
first year it's going to be thinking
probably every every couple of months
should be okay for now
so would you be interested in having two
council representatives yes okay so
we'll go with that so just so we will
reflect as a as the amendment is to add
two councillors to the accessibility
okay yes
and that'll change our Schedule B I
right now it says accessibility
committee in development and will we
will add yes okay so that'll need to put
two councillors on that when you name
your councilors to their respective okay
are there any other changes councillor
Pulsifer I was just wondering um the
staff who who is the staff that is
preparing this on the accessibility well
certainly myself will be on a committee
but we will be involving recreation on
community development I think needs to
also be there because there has to be
that liaison you know our business
community and in that and then basically
any other staff that we need engineering
you know if we see in need you know I
don't I don't want to tie everyone up
all the time but we will be pulling from
the different departments to work with
each component of it
deputy mayor thank you worship what it
would it be in line if we invited KBC or
a member from KBC to be on that as well
because they'll be the voice
individually to businesses downtown
because I'm I'm assuming the majority of
the accessibility is going to be based
around the commercial area downtown so
once we start working through the plan
then as you're working through we'll
start pulling in partners that need to
be at the table for certain components
of it but not everyone will need to be
around the table all the time it would
make for far too large a working group
if you did that councillor Savage thank
you worship so it has has anything been
developed on it yet has a plan of sorts
been developed on it yet not for the
town council we have we have templates
and we have we have other communities
plans but so what's our timeline on this
the way it's there what's the word that
I'm looking for the province is going to
be proclaiming by the 2021
a proclamation sort of like a without
prejudice nation her by this this is
this is going to be you you are required
this absolutely the the legislation
excuse me will be is twenty thirty we
must all be access compliance and right
across sure yeah yeah I just think with
what we need to because its long-term
it's gonna be expensive we need to get
the plan done so we can start budgeting
consecutive budgets to implement all of
the changes that are going to be
required so when I reference their
sister community fulfill and the plan
that I think they they've received
provincial recognition for certainly at
NSF m and I don't know that their plan
was as specific no it was more general
in nature which is where they will grow
right all of their changes from right so
our our plan will be less general in
nature and more specific to your point
about well I think have expenditures and
things like that combination of both
because we all have to start planning
regardless so I think you know first we
need to identify where some of the need
is and what is then we have to
prioritize right right okay I mean it is
going to require some consultation work
as well for sure yeah yeah so okay it
won't it won't be something that happens
overnight
that's why I think we you know it's time
for us to start moving sure okay thank
you alright and recording secretary
Jennifer you had something I just wanted
to add that through through the chair it
is it is on the committee's mind to be
on track with our targets and it looks
as though we're behind but however our
sister community was offered support
from the province to develop their their
plan early as a pilot for the province
so they have give been given a head
start so to speak and I just wanted to
point that out that we're not behind we
are we are right on track they're just
ahead of us even talking about even
talking about it we're further ahead in
some communities is there any further
discussion are you ready for the
question the question is on adoption of
the motion to recommend approval of the
amendments plus the amendments made
tonight to the G 57 Committees of
Council policy statement but we're moved
yeah this is just are you ready for the
question the question voting is now open
and voting is now closed
and the motion is carried thank you all
right moving on to our next piece of
business to the CEO for the town of
Kentville capital projects update
Jennifer
all right recording secretary sorry you
surprised me with that one the capital
projects are a table that we put
together for council to see how things
are going and we really want to show you
that we have lots of green lights that
projects are right on track that they're
completed and obviously that we want the
projects that are in our capital plan to
be completed by the end of the fiscal
year and we are definitely on track to
do that when you have a chance just have
a look at all of the projects Kelly's
going to bring it up here
so we try to bring this to CAC every two
months there are some which are out of
our control so the gray item there is
the canoe launched with the new bridge
so we we are not in control of building
a new bridge so some of these items have
to be adjusted in our budget but most of
them are on track and the directors each
or every two months they give me a
report and we can fill this out and
they're very pleased with how things are
going with the capital plan
deputy mayor you were two questions
actually number one what does the white
mean or what color should it be and for
the capital projects that are complete
mm-hmm is it possible that we could make
another column with what the actual cost
was that's actually contained in your
financial report
I'm your capital financial report so
everything that we have on here is in is
in the final the costing is in the
financial report yeah we we tried not to
my understanding is that we haven't put
costings in this most recently because
sometimes they don't the cost don't jive
with what the finance directors report
is because there's other components that
may be missing like HST rebate that that
the offset that kind of things so so the
cost of the are in your capital report
from the Director of Finance
individually so everything well
whatever's been working on that
particular month you might have to go
back to find like if if a projects been
completed it obviously won't be in that
or if there's been no change in the
project if for some reason it stalled
there won't be any change you may have
to go back and I could speak to the
white cells so some of the cells in the
I think the last column is tendered
construction phase if you could just go
up there construction phase column some
of them are white and that's just
because there's been some kind of a
delay we're waiting on somebody we're
not quite there yet so I wouldn't want
to put a red because it's not happening
but it is it is in progress so some of
those might be more appropriate to be
yellows it wasn't meant to be a table
that is super detailed and to take away
from director Kroll's reports she has
the detailed financials this was just
meant to be a visual that shows you how
all of these projects are coming along
that was your two questions so premier
all right council Pulsifer the white
question was likely very good all right
are there any further questions with
regards to the capital project update
all right moving on to correspondence
so our first piece of Correspondence is
from Pierre and Kareem homers and noise
bylaw seal your worship and counsel is
included in your package
the details are are there and this
basically there was an issue with noise
of a pool pump that was being heard on
the next-door neighbor's property from
from the owner of the pool the police
did as you can see and and my
understanding having spoken with staff
is that the police did respond but what
they heard or didn't hear is the reason
why there was no enforcement done you
know there wasn't in anything in their
opinion that was enforceable based on
their visits now that's not to say that
you know on the time that they were
there are two times that they did
respond perhaps the pump was turned off
they didn't indicate that it was just
the fact that they what they heard was
not enforceable under under the bylaw
I know that the the letter is commenting
on perhaps some recommendations for
change to the bylaw we don't have a
decibel reader so you know having said
to implement decibels in your bylaw
certainly means that you know we would
have to be looking at purchasing a
decibel reader and being able to read it
interpret it use it at this point in
time and having looked at the
information that that is available it is
staffs recommendation if you want to
call it that that this isn't something
that is enforceable by the town and that
perhaps it it is more of a civil matter
and perhaps should be treated in that
regard
not sure what else I can add alright
co-counselor savage thank you your
worship so in terms of it being a civil
matter then then it basically has
nothing to do with the police it has
nothing to do with with the bylaws here
it's something that they take upon
themselves that's correct
so when I look at the bylaw and I see so
it's peace and good order it's it's
pretty general like it seems very
general I mean is it is the intent of it
I mean usually with most bylaws the
intent is for it to be enforceable I
think over the years in my experience
with noise noise bylaws mm-hmm they're
very difficult to enforce interpretation
plays a very large role in it a lot of
municipal units who had noise bylaws
mm-hmm I have actually rescinded them
for that reason and then they leave it
up to policing under the Criminal Code
which there is a nuisance section in the
Criminal Code that dictates certain
types of activities one person cannot
conduct you know activities that impedes
the enjoyment of their next-door
neighbors so you know parties and
squealing tires and and those kinds of
things so it's noise baila it's very
difficult to enforce I think that as you
said ours is somewhat general so I think
in order for it to to be more
enforceable I guess we really would have
to look at it you know at this point I
don't I haven't read it in depth as I
shouldn't study
in order to be able to make a
recommendation as to how we could or
should change the bylaw or whether we
should but you know if if it's council's
wishes staff certainly can go back and
have a deeper look at it you know maybe
see what we can come up with from some
other municipal units there's not a lot
of them out there but we certainly can
look and it'll also give us an
opportunity to to look at the policing
perspective or now that we have a
full-time bond enforcement officer who
will be enforcing all of the bylaws that
also you know can put a different spin
on it
our interpretation so I'd like to press
this button but thank you councillor
Andrew bylaw does seem to be rather weak
in the absence of our ability to
intervene and the the lack of our police
officers being able to intervene how how
do we sometimes these kind of things
could be mediated if and if we don't
give you know if police if our if our
police had the teeth to this and we're
able to have have a reason to go speak
to the people with the alleged loud pool
filter then then that would be coarse to
have that kind of conversation you know
is there a way to work together on this
and and but if we haven't given them you
know the justification to be there and
knock on someone's door then it makes it
challenging so that's mine anyway my
thought is
well you always hope that people would
find a way to work together
councillor maxwell yeah I would like to
to send us to staff as well and just
have a deeper look at it but I'm also
wondering how much one of these decibel
readers might cost and maybe a cost
analysis of something like that might be
useful just in the report yes deputy
mayor thank you worship I'm I've got to
chapter 85 in front of me and the way it
looks to me is some of the issues are
police policed and some of the issues
would fall under the planning I assume
now because we've got the bylaws
enforcement officer he takes care of
everything on the page and and a stupid
question based on the correspondence
they did take the bylaws officer out of
it I'm hoping our solicitor I'm sure he
didn't tell one person one thing and one
person another I haven't been able to
verify that
but this certainly is can be all part of
that report counselor Pulsifer thank you
I just wanted to concur with the counts
of savage and councillor Maxwell that
have staff take a closer look at this I
did notice there was an example from the
municipality of King's foreign and - so
they must have something in effect there
thank you so just to put some of this in
in perspective the average home is about
50 DB s-- conversational speech is about
60 DB s-- a vacuum-cleaner is about 70
DB so if you look at these numbers a
vacuum cleaner is would not would not be
permitted for use at any time not that I
worry about that but and curbside on a
busy road is about 80 DB so this is the
other thing that that we have to put
into into perspective is is how much a
DB is and how do you how do you limit
what what during the day goes out and I
realize that we're talking nighttime and
you know there there are issues here but
as as the CEO has pointed out and when
when our police officers went there they
did not hear what the complainant was
hearing so that's why they said they
could not use our by law to enforce it
it was not that they couldn't enforce
our bylaw it's that they couldn't they
couldn't enforce the noise deputy mayor
thank you worship just in regards to
that
when it goes back to staff wood staff be
able to call someone from the village of
new - or the county to find out how they
police this RCMP look well it would be
so I think we're we're in in agreement
that this goes back to staff and we
should expect a report probably wre wre
CAC no we don't we don't need a motion
to push something to staff out of out of
this
so we'll expect to see it February CAC
2020 if anybody's making notes on on
that alright in our next piece of
Correspondence Co it is the letter from
the MLA and as you can see they are
looking at some work that's being done
around recruiting and Retraining more
doctors there is a committee already in
place comprising of the Wolfville deputy
mayor Kings County deputy mayor he board
members in Annapolis Valley Chamber of
Commerce and and himself Keith Urban and
they are working doing some work as the
ideas residency retention program which
targeted that the 10 physician residents
that complete their two-year residency
in the valley and a coordinated effort
to connect and integrate these
professionals into our communities can
only strengthen the opportunity for
retention there is a possibility of
provincial support for this work we are
they are developing a proposal to the
cultural Innovation Fund which is a
healthy community stream
and however this program does not fund
staff time and this has emerged as a
much a much needed gap in our plans as
an interagency committee though we are
confident much of the work can be done
by volunteers a part-time staff person
is needed to advance work between
committee meetings the role of the staff
person would be to coordinate any
funding received for recruitment
coordinate recruitment efforts in
consultation with the Nova Scotia health
authorities recruiter for our region and
support the ongoing work of our
committee as this is a collaborative
effort we are confident that there are
solutions such as one municipality
contributing a staff person for one day
of the week cost shared by other
municipalities I'm writing therefore to
ask if one of your municipalities would
consider taking the lead on identifying
a staff person to support the
committee's work one day a week to to be
cost shared by the two other two
municipalities
he is also reaching out to Mayor Don
Clark TAS of town of Berwick would join
in this initiative ideally we would like
staff persons support in place as soon
as possible one thing is clear
collaboration is needed on doctor
recruitment for Kings County I hope your
municipalities can find a means to
support this important initiative yours
truly Keith Urban
so CEO from a staff perspective I don't
have a staff member that we could commit
that to not it not at this point not
with everything else that we you know
have coming onboard and coming and and
you know they're saying that there is a
possibility of provincial funding but it
doesn't say if it's a possibility you
know this you know for from from a
staffing perspective and from someone
who over the last 20 years has
continually seen the province
downloading under the municipalities and
giving us nothing in return this is just
another download and and health is a
provincial responsibility and you know
perhaps we're one of the luckier areas
in the province I think the numbers
speak for itself in you and I your
worship we're talking about the numbers
earlier and and you know we're standing
in pretty good stead
you know proportion an average wise for
doctors and and retaining every and but
we don't have any stuff at this point
that we could offer up okay Thank You
counselor Maxwell yeah I agree totally
with the CEO while I agree we need
doctors and we need them all over the
country and we need them here in Kings
County
it is a provincial responsibility and I
just don't see the downloading being
something that the provincial government
should be doing to municipalities to
make this something that we need to pay
to have a staff person do and I totally
disagree with with with that and and us
funding it I think the liberal Liberal
government should be looking after this
both provincially and federally because
it's not a problem just in Nova Scotia
it's a problem across the country Thank
You councillor savage thank you worship
I became involved with this committee in
my capacity as deputy mayor a year so
ago year and a half ago and it was more
around the collaboration piece and sort
of best practices what some of the you
know what the county was doing what what
the town of wolf it was doing and I
don't know that Berwick was ever
involved in this piece but I'll ask
mayor snow for you maybe just to speak a
little bit about like what what what's
actually happening within the within the
town of Cantho
within your capacity and just the some
of the prospects that you're meeting
with and sort of how that all rolls up
and and some of the connects that you
have yeah
thank you councillor Savage so first I
of course you know me with with stats
and that sort of thing so one of the
things that I want to push out to you is
that the valley has the highest
retention rate for our residency program
90% of the residents who have gone
through our program stay in Nova Scotia
70% of them have stayed here in the
valley and in these folks when they come
here they are placed in Annapolis Royal
in Middleton
in Middleton Kingston Berwick Kentville
Wolfville and as I say 70% stay in the
valley and I actually read a news
article today today that 21 of 24 of
them since to 2018 or since 2017 have
stayed in this area so that makes our
stats even that much better now if we go
back a few years you'll recall that that
I spent time with the the Valley
Regional Hospital Foundation and in that
time recruiting was not done by n sha
and what was happening was basically
each town or each area in Nova Scotia
was doing their own recruiting so if you
had a rich foundation then you had more
money to go to recruit and when this
Liberal government first went into power
they said that's the wrong way to
recruit we should be recruiting for all
of Nova Scotia and nobody should have a
leg up on anyone else and so now what
we're seeing is n sha has rolled out a
bunch of recruiters and we actually have
two recruiters in the western zone so
Western goal zone goes from Hance border
so to speak all the way around to
Yarmouth and and that's that's our area
so we have two recruiters in that area
now that may not seem like a lot but the
thing is is that when a doctor comes to
nova scotia to be recruited they have
told the recruiters where they want to
visit and then the recruiter brings that
doctor so it's it's not like a doctor is
coming and they're just dragging him
around to every town in nova scotia the
doctor pre picks where they think they
want to be my the last doctors that that
i got to sit down with was the lunch
because they were between meetings and
and so we could only do lunch needless
to say i did talk with my mouth full a
few times but at the end of the day they
they're actually coming back to
Kentville so you know we have we have
some really great stories and and valley
regional is such a great hospital we
don't have a problem recruiting doctors
to this area the other thing as well is
that we have some really great
collaborative practices I mean look at
that building that's being built into -
you know if you if you remember
Marissa Davidson and her husband and and
the recruiting work that they've done so
we have all these these great
initiatives happening and they're
happening without funding the other
thing that I want to point out in in
healthcare is that as municipalities we
we tend to we tend to get pushed at
double taxation because when you think
about it any new equipment that big
picture the province decides to put into
a hospital if you remember when we got
our MRI machines the community always
has to pay 25 percent of that so if you
think of of Kings County and a piece of
an MRI at ten million dollars going into
Valley Regional we had to pay two
million dollars for that well the MRI
that went into the qe2 Halifax with four
hundred thousand people had to raise two
million dollars so we are we are already
disadvantaged because of our size and
capacity so as councilor Savage has
councillor savage and councillor Maxwell
have said this is this is more
downloading on us and and this was this
was our Liberal government who put this
recruiting process in place and it is
working the thing with our medical
system is that doctors decide how many
doctors are going to be trained the
other thing as well is that there's not
a residency position for every doctor
that's trained in Canada so some doctors
come out of medical school and don't
have a position to go into training so
the system is broken higher up than just
at Nova Scotia and councillor Maxwell
pointed it out that this is a Canadian
problem it's a world problem it's it's
not a town of Kentville
problem or a Kings County problem
is there any further discussion on on
that so I guess we'll send them a letter
to say that we do not have a staff
person and we don't appreciate the
downloading in a really nice way CEO all
right moving on to our next piece of
Correspondence which arrived in my email
this morning
so this is from the Kent ville silver
glider Skating Club and as I'm not
perhaps I should read the whole thing
I'm not sure if everyone has been able
to see it
okay so dear mayor and council the town
of Kentville Kent little silver glider
Skating Club is hosting its annual
Christmas Ice Show on December 15
starting at 6 p.m. at the Kendall
Centennial Rina participation in this
Ice Show gives our skaters a chance to
showcase their talents and all that they
have learned so far this year from our
pre-canned skaters to our senior skaters
they're all very excited to show what
they can do on the ice our synchro team
has a new coach and a new name Valley
fusion and we'll be competing this year
in the pre novice category
many of our skaters represent our club
and province and Atlantic competitions
and on the Canada Games team in past
years this show has to start to be a
free will offering for admission this
particular ice show is not a big
fundraiser for our club but rather an
opportunity for the kids to have some
fun and show their stuff her family and
friends while celebrating the Christmas
season in spirit this year's theme is
twas the night before Christmas on ice
we have many fundraising options we use
every year from selling chocolate bars
Sports sweep tickets our spring ice
shelf 5050 and everything anything else
we can do to raise much needed funds for
our club we will be hosting a star
one-two-three competition this year that
will help raise much-needed money for
the club three years ago we hosted false
gain and had a very successful
competition every single bit of help we
have is volunteered by our skater
parents and other dedicated skating fans
and they keep our club active and
thriving
this year we have 95 skaters in our club
60 of those are can ski
we're skating club uses about nine hours
of ice every week each hour of ice is a
hundred and eighty dollars and we skate
for twenty nine to thirty weeks each
year at a cost of forty seven thousand
two hundred fifty dollars a year for ice
alone this is an increase of five
thousand dollars from last year we
strive to keep our registration cost
reasonable for our skater so we keep
them in skating sports participation
benefit skaters through greater self
esteem team camaraderie increased
physical fitness and community spirit by
showcasing their talents this means we
need fundraiser to offset these costs
takes many hours of preparation and
three and a half hours of ice time to
set up have the show and take down our
set plus have escaped with Santa for our
skaters and families in past years we
have had this ice time sponsored by
outside businesses we would love to be
able to tell the audience that this
year's ice time was sponsored by the
town and khemphone
we will put this in our program and
announce it during the show the town
were able to donate this ice time the
club would be thankful for your support
thank you for presenting our letter to
council at Kent ville silver glider
Skating Club
Darleen redgraves thank you I just want
to point out based on the numbers they
have provided those two numbers in in
highlight were not changed from last
year's letters so the first one should
be forty-eight thousand six hundred a
year for ice alone and that's an
increase of one thousand three hundred
and fifty dollars actually from 2018 so
those were the those two numbers were
from there last year computation at one
hundred and seventy-five dollars an hour
for the ice and this at today's rates
three three and a half hours is six
hundred and thirty dollars
and they last year before they came to
us they had they had made an ask for
marketing of the town of Kentville and
we had contributed two hundred and fifty
dollars and then we bumped that up to
the 6-2 to over six hundred dollars to
meet their their ask this year they did
not even bother coming to us prior to
submitting this letter for any marketing
funding for their program so do we want
to discuss this now or move it to new
business at six and one half a dozen to
the other
no discussion counselor Maxwell I'll
open it up for discussion I know that we
have a grants policy and and and that's
an important thing and we've talked
about before
we've made some exceptions to due to
emergencies and things like that now I
know that this group came to us last
year at about the same time you know at
the last minute and wanted us to do
something and and we did and I'm
wondering if if anyone followed up with
this group about the grants policy and
when the grants were supposed to be you
know put in when the requests were put
in just wondering whose responsibility
that would be and wondering if that was
if that was done because we did make an
exception last year and so you know in
order for me to make a decision I need
to know if anything was done so I can't
comment
your worship and Council on whether they
were actually followed up with but I
know that grants to organizations you
put an ad out and it's on your website
every year you know now is the time to
apply here's the deadlines you know this
is what you need to do the applications
everything is there and it's very well
publicized and it must be because you
you handed out twenty seven thousand
five hundred dollars this year which was
your whole fund
during the the grants process now I mean
yeah you know they have to be
responsible I mean we can't contact
every single no I understand that group
to let them know so you know if you're
looking for funding you're out there all
the time watching and looking but but it
it was advertised all the other groups
that you gave funding to obviously saw
it and and filed applications that's I
can't comment whether they themselves
were actually contacted no I did I was
just hoping that perhaps we had you know
made that stipulation last year and they
were informed that they should you know
follow our grants process in the future
and I guess we'd have to go back to look
at minutes there to see if anything was
said
counselor max well I think with this one
we didn't do a grant because all of our
grant money was gone so what happened
was we did it as a marketing and so
that's why the 250 was bumped up to meet
the 600 for their program so we did we
did it as marketing because at the time
director Bedingfield had no wiggle room
in her budget
right and this had to come out of her
budget so we did it as marketing okay
deputy mayor thank you we supported this
last year and and and I voted for it
last year against my better judgement
because I'm where does it end when when
when this stops do we appreciate their
business absolutely we love the fact
that they come to the Kent full arena
but we also love the fact that Cady
minor hockey comes to the Ken full arena
and the beer league as it's known comes
to the council arena and and shiney and
stuff like that and you know we we do
have a grants policy
and to quote another counselor what's
the point in having a policy if if we're
not going to follow it so III just think
you you know we reworded it last year as
a promotion as opposed to a grant we
can't be responsible to let everybody in
the community and extended communities
we can only do so much to say we have a
grant policy and and this is when it
happens apply then so yeah I wouldn't
support this this year alright thank you
very much councillor Pulsifer thank you
I guess the question I had was if the
club was aware of when the grants are to
be applied for is that it's put in the
advertiser is that yeah and on our
website and no I saw it right but I
guess they you know the club would have
to be constantly checking I guess the
website and the newspaper to see when
indeed the grant applications
you know we're accepted in the time
period that that they had to work within
as councillor Maxwell said about the
last year's acceptance of their request
whether there was anything said you know
this is we're doing it this year for you
this way but in the future we do have a
policy for applications which is between
a certain time period and you know this
this is how it works
type thing so if that wasn't reported
and given them the information then I
guess they're they're thinking this is
how it how it does work I just send a
letter within a few weeks of the or a
week prior to the event and hope that
everyone you know will go along with it
I mean I am tour and I don't think it's
in
is a little request the 630 dollars I
mean I always thought of it as more of
an in-kind thing by not charging them
for those three and a half hours of ice
but I guess that's not the way it's
worded I think I brought that up last
time but in kind you know the club works
hard and I think you know it's an
important aspect of a Recreation
Department this does Skating Club and
along with the many other programs that
are available here in Kent Phil and in
the past I mean we did support them on
an emergency basis that was last year
and we've also supported other sports
and youth groups on that same basis
because we believed and you know in
their value and what they bring to the
town myself I'm supporting the request
and I just want to have it out there
that I'm in support of this this year
and there would be perhaps a requisite
that when or if this should pass and
they do you know receive the request for
funding that it would be specifically
noted that this procedure is not how you
go about asking for a grant and that in
future years there is a process and
there is a time period and that would be
how it would work from now on but I'd
say we probably had this exact same
discussion last year at this time and
that's how we fandangled and as a
marketing counselor Savage thank you
worship yeah I just would I would concur
with what councilor pulser said I you
know I'm looking at them you know that
they've been here for the last 50 years
and just looking at their website here
and award-winning can skate program and
so I think it's more around it informing
them as to how the process works and I
think we're in a position this year that
we don't know if they were informed as
to how the process works but and I
believe as you said last year we did it
as we supported them in terms of
promotional active
as opposed to actual as opposed to
actual dollars and I think they're a
great organization to support in the
community I really do and I think it's
difficult to say no but I think on a
go-forward basis we have to explain to
them how the how the grant process works
and I have to assume that they don't
know that or else they wouldn't be
coming to us at the at the eleventh hour
but there's a lot of young faces there
and I think that's important to support
them so okay that's all thank you thank
you
councillor Andrew I was gonna say much
the same I it does seem like someone
like a little bit of deja vu the
conversation we're having at the same
time it does you know it's a great
organization and and as has been said so
are many others this is an organization
that lots of local children are involved
with I guess when I read it I I thought
of us in terms of the fact that we
promote we're a promoter last year and
wondered whether there's any other kind
of town component we could piggyback on
that night they already have an event
happening in town that night and is
there I mean I know we already have our
tree lighting and our you know some of
those we have that night but is there
something that the staff would think of
and say okay we already have a draw to
the town that night it's the 15th it's
pretty close to town to Christmas rather
and is there is there way we can we
could piggyback something so there's a
mutual benefit with this beyond the
obvious
deputy mayor thank you worship I would
just say I guess number one my argument
would be we've got a policy in place
number two were in a deficit position
that seems to be going up every meeting
that we have but number three and I
would direct this to the CIO
if she can answer it the 180 dollars an
hour of for ice time does that cover our
cost maintenance machinery staff so are
we not already subsidizing I very much
normally I can't say an honest yes or no
for cam Phil but in my experience you
never are able to recover that cost so
it's normally subsidized I I don't know
if you have a two-tier pricing some more
hands do less for youth groups anymore
but I can tell you 180 dollars an hour
you're convinced we've still got a
Volkswagen sized pothole in the middle
of the parking lot and I'm you're gonna
guess that there haven't been lights in
that parking lot for two years so
councillor Maxwell thank you I'm you
know looking at 630 dollars which isn't
cash in my mind coming out of a budget
right now it's revenue it's it's lost
revenue for this year much the same as
when the school cut out skating from
their program and we lost or there was
there was a problem there I can't
remember what it was I think it was work
to rule or something and they didn't do
their skating program and we lost hours
upon hours upon hours of ice time so you
know things happen ice time you know
gets lost here and there 630 dollars is
is revenue that would be would be lost
this year but I don't think it would
make in in terms of the overall
recreation budget I don't think it would
would make a big big dent if you know if
we do grant this and.and I'm leaning
towards doing that I would I would like
a letter to go out to organizations that
we have given extra extra consideration
over the you know above the policy so
for example the kemple Wildcats baseball
team we gave extra consideration to yet
I don't think that we said anything to
them about our grants policy and when
grants were available and things like
that so I just want to make sure that
those groups that we did go above and
beyond for this year do get a letter
prior to our grant policy and then that
makes it easier the next time around if
they come at the last minute then it's
easier to say no I went back and checked
those letters and the letter that we
received from the the Wildcats was they
were a request for a one-time-only it
was not to be continuous and and I guess
what I'm what I'm pointing out with this
letter is is that it arrived today for
something that's happening this weekend
and they have not come to the town to
get any marketing money which one would
think that if they're trying to
fundraise that they would have asked
for our typical 250 and you know based
on what happened last year
perhaps we we would have we would have
upped we would have upped that the other
thing I want to I want you two to recall
is that our biggest loss and recreation
last year was our ice time so our arena
costs were we're absolutely you know
they just they didn't they didn't meet
what we expected and and so I think we
had over twenty thousand dollar loss in
revenue of of ice time and I was I was
going through madly here because when
Deb was doing her report there was we
were already behind the ball in in
recreation with regards to to revenue
counselor Pulsifer you had your light on
yes thank you your worship I just think
this is a very small amount of money six
hundred and thirty dollars out of the
cost that the Skating Club pays to the
town forty seven thousand two hundred
and fifty dollars per year it's it just
doesn't add up to be a huge loss to the
town and it is our youth it is our you
know I don't know if anyone has gone to
their skating carnivals or ice shows I
go every year twice and I just don't
think this is a I just don't think this
is an unreasonable request with the you
know the request that next year or the
letter goes out saying next year this is
how it works and you know one more year
of $630 I don't think it's gonna I
personally don't think we'll break the
town but anyway it's my opinion okay
deputy mayor thank you I'm just I'm
wondering if we send these letters out
to say this isn't normal practice but
we're going to give you the money well
we also send letters out to all the
other
Junior teams that that call Kent for
home to say we don't do this as a
practice so so please in future don't
don't come asking for money because
we've we've set these folks as a
priority I just I I think once you open
once you open this up which we did last
year and that was that was a mistake I
think there's there's nothing to say
that every other sports team in Kensal
junior middle-aged senior doesn't make
any difference can come in here or just
send a letter the day of and say look we
need money for this when are you gonna
say no and and how is it going to look
to the rest of the sports teams who come
here and and pay money and spend money
in town when we say no sorry these these
folks were an exception Thank You
councillor Maxwell everybody's making
really good points but again I I feel
that I hate closing the door on youth
and I hate closing the door on physical
fitness I think that it is part of our
Recreation mandate to to have recreation
for all and and to get people involved
is there anything wrong with sending out
a letter to inform them about our grants
policy I think that's not a difficult
thing to do and it would certainly be if
you want me to turn down a request
outside of the grants I would have to
know that they knew that that's when
what the policy was and this is the way
that we're going to hold the line which
I have said before I don't really feel
like we need we should draw a line in
the sand and say this is it for
everybody and everything I would also
like to see us you know maybe raise our
grant some a little bit and put a
reserve to the side for emergencies
because I think physical fitness is
something that should be a priority it's
it's part of our health and I can
appreciate we have
I you know I appreciate that we have a
grants policy but I also think that we
have to have a little bit of flexibility
so you know I would support it for this
year but I certainly would like to see
letters go out and then next year if
they're three days before the deadline
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to probably
say no thank you
so I guess the other thing that I'd like
to point out is that our grants policy
doesn't mean that everyone gets what
they've asked for as you know as we know
and we always have limited funds so a
figure-skating club that has $40,000 in
the bank
probably would not meet the criteria to
get funding from our grants program I
just I just put that out there perhaps
we need a motion and and vote on on a
motion or do you want to keep talking
deputy mayor I was just three times it's
been mentioned tonight emergency you
know there's no emergency here thank you
this is a request for funding
and last year as I said we did it
through marketing because we had no
money left in our grants budget and
Recreation had that they were they were
in a tight position so the money
actually ended up coming out of our
marketing our marketing budget and so we
have a request for funding to support
the silver gliders Skating Club for
three and a half hours of ice time at
180 dollars per hour for a total of 630
dollars it would be recognized in the
program and announced at the event so
council advisory recommends approval
of the funding to the silver gliders
skating club in the amount of 630
dollars for marketing and further that
this is in addition to the approved 2019
2020 operational budget is anyone
willing to move that all right is there
a seconder all right
so it's been moved and seconded that
council advisory recommend approval of
the funding to the silver gliders
skating club in the amount of six
hundred and thirty-four marketing and
please note I have said marketing
because we have no money left in our
grants and further that this addition
this is in addition to the approved 2019
2020 operational budget is there any
further discussion councillor Maxwell
um no I guess good you're good
counselor Sabatini worship you know I
listen to the arguments around the
horseshoe and I sort of look at things
on a case-by-case basis and I kind of
revert back to what I said earlier in
terms of them knowing the process last
year and I'm not convinced that they
knew the process last year I I don't I
don't profess to know how much they have
in their bank account I don't know that
but if they have that then they have
that I'm looking at what they do in the
community I'm looking at what they
represent in the community and I'm
looking at that it's it's done on a case
by case basis and everybody that comes
to us for money whether it's the wild
cat cats on a one-off or we look at it
on a case by case basis but I think the
the key here is allowing them to know
that there is a grant process and that
in in future if they have a request that
this is the process so thank you thank
you counselor Pulsifer thank you worship
I just wanted to add that the motion
perhaps should state that a letter the
letter is explanatory to them as to the
grant process that that's part of the
motion so it would ensure that that
information was provided to the club and
so you're making an amendment and
further that a letter detailing grant
policy be provided yes so you were you
made the motion and you're happy with
that our seconder is counselor Savage
and you're happy with that as a friendly
amendment all right just clarity
certainly so this is three and a half
hours of donated time
that we are contributing not 600 and no
there's not 630 dolls it's three hours
of Vice Chinese we won't be billing them
that's correct
thank you yes yes that's that's correct
- yeah that's the budget letter
explaining sorry the grant policy okay
are you ready for the question the
question is on adoption of the motion to
recommend approval of the funding to
silver gliders Skating Club in the
amount of six hundred and thirty dollars
for marketing and further that this is
in addition to the approved 2019 2020
operational and further that 11 letter
explaining the grant policy before
worded to the silver gliders Oh
councillor Andrews sorry sorry I tried
to catch you before okay my question is
this have there been other requests made
by other groups since our granting time
has been completed that have been
rejected outright by way of policy the
only request we had was the one of from
our wild cast okay and we we accepted
that one but we haven't we haven't turn
it I just wanted to make sure that
that's okay thank you
voting is now open voting is now closed
and the motion is carried thank you all
right we now have time for a public
comments the floor is now open to the
public please state your name and
address and subject matter you will have
ten minutes podium yep and the mic is on
it records you okay
your so deputy mayor councillors staff
so thank you very much first of all for
including our us on your agenda item
this evening and there's a lot more
other information but I just want to
explain why we got here in the first
place and that is here sorry could you
state your name for the my group for the
peer reporting thank you
85 McDonald Park Road thank you that's
in Kent Phil
okay so we never thought we would get to
this point because when the first
happened with our noise issue we thought
it would be as simple as picking up the
phone calling your local police
department and saying hey can you just
come and talk to our neighbor we know
that is done and there's a pool party
you know that's done and they probably
do it all the time and when it started
two years ago in August
that's exactly we thought what would
happen we were just saying you know we
can't sleep at night because of what's
happening so the police will come around
on behalf of the town and go knock on
our neighbor's door and say here's the
issue can you please you know look after
that cetera so we're very disappointed
that nothing was accomplished that we
are here this evening I guess the only
good part is that from your discussion
earlier I'm pleased to see that you're
willing to move forward and do some
investigations on it etc and hopefully
there will bring some positive results
from from that standpoint so the other
point I was going to make when it came
to the initial inquiries the police
never came in night or went out in the
evening to see what the noise was all
about and of course they don't sleep in
our bedroom either because it's right
beside the master bedroom but that was
never done and so if I can just go back
to the to the first thing on the
submission that relates to you folks and
we talked about point four point eight
and four point nine I think it's pretty
straightforward that no person within
the town shall make any unnecessary
noise which is disturbing to other
persons that pretty much covers our
issue or no occupier of premises in the
town shell but do exactly the same so I
think what we've learned the bylaw
doesn't do anything for the town
and Phil or Ford's taxpayers it has no
clout the police have outright told us
after two years of study and going back
to discussing it and going to their
lawyers saying that they won't go talk
to our neighbors because they can't make
anything stick they can't so what do you
do you know like they can't make
anything stick what does that mean all
we ask
rap on the door and see if you can if we
can have a liaison with unfortunately I
guess we have neighbors where we've
tried that and they won't do anything
about it so I think you need to know a
little bit of that information my name
is Corinne Hoover's 85 McDonald Park
Road in Kent Phil and regarding the pool
pump it's not a pool pump is a pool heat
pump there's two different things
the pool pump is hardly noticeable
outside let alone inside a home the pool
heat pump is a noisy part and it lasts
for hours and it's a long continuous
drone the police officer I will have
another correction the police officer
did come up a year ago in the morning
when it was still on because sometimes
it is over into the daylight hours and
sometimes it goes on for two days he
came up and he basically said that he
can't do anything about it because the
bylaw is so ambiguous the thing is that
this heat pump is fixable there are
several options that the neighbor can do
but he refuses to listen you refuse to
even talk about it so this is the
problem that we're having there are a
lot of options actually that they can do
to fix the problem and anyway alright
thank you very much okay
thank you all right the council has
confidential land business which must be
conducted in the closed session we
require a motion to go into the closed
session to discuss the agenda item thank
you thank you it has been moved and
seconded that this meeting move into a
closed session all those in favor
those opposed motion is carried thank
you it is 0 or not 0 it's 20 to 25 20 25
so if you need to do
