REPUBLICANS
IN CONGRESS ARE PLANNING ON
PROPOSING IN VOTING IN FAVOR OF
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BAN
PREGNANCIES PAST SIX WEEKS.
THEY ARE
REFERRING TO IT AS A FETAL HEARTBEAT
BILL.
THE ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT IF
THERE IS A HEARTBEAT WHICH CAN BE
DETECTED AT SIX WEEKS, THEN THE
ABORTION SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.
A 
LOT
OF WOMEN DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY
ARE PREGNANT AT SIX WEEKS.
THIS
WOULD EFFECTIVELY OUTLAW ABORTION.
IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN ONE
IF THIS PASSES.
OF COURSE THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THIS WILL BE
CHALLENGED IF IT MAKES ITS WAY TO
THE SUPREME COURT.
ONE WOULD HOPE
THAT THE SUPREME COURT WOULD LOOK AT
PRECEDENT AND RULE IN THE RIGHT WAY
BUT CONSIDERING NEIL GORSUCH, I
DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
>> ON THE ONE SIDE WE KNOW THAT WE
CAN'T SAY THAT IT IS A PERSON ONLY
WHEN IT IS BORN BECAUSE ñ THAT IS
WHY IN ROE VERSUS WADE IN THE THIRD
TRIMESTER YOU CANNOT HAVE AN
ABORTION.
IT IS VERY ROUGH AND I
HAVE MY ISSUES WITH ROE V WADE AND
HOW IT WAS DECIDED.
BUT VIABILITY
MAKES PERFECT SENSE AS TO THE
DRAWING LINE.
IT IS TOO FAR WHEN YOU
JUST A BIRTH, AND IT IS TOO EARLY
WHEN YOU SAY RIGHT AT EJACULATION.
LET'S KEEP IT REAL, THIS IS WHAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>DON'T STOP THERE.
KEEP GOING.
WHERE DOES IT COME FROM, GO TO THE
TESTICLES.
CUT THEM OFF.
>> NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THAT.
>> WHY ARE WE NOT PROPOSING
TESTICULAR REMOVAL TUESDAYS?
>>I HOPE NOT.
BUT REPUBLICANS ARE
REALLY BELIEVING IN BIG GOVERNMENT
SO LARGE THAT THEY SAY THE MINUTE
THAT EJACULATE IS INSIDE A WOMAN IT
IS OUR PROPERTY AND YOU ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO TOUCH IT.
BUT THE EGG AND
THE SPERM ARE INSIDE MY BODY AND
THEY ARE NOWHERE NEAR HUMAN, RIGHT?
AND THEY SAY I DON'T CARE, THIS IS
THE ONE AND ONLY TIME I ACTUALLY
CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT
YET PEOPLE.
SO WHY IS VIABILITY I
THINK THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE STATE
TO CARE?
BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE ñ
EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A LIFE FORM.
YOU CANNOT ARGUE THAT IT IS AN
INDEPENDENT LIFE FORM.
IT IS
DEPENDENT ON ANOTHER LIFE FORM.
THAT
IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE WHERE
YOU SAY IT IS EITHER A PERSON OR
NOT.
IT IS ATTACHED TO ANOTHER HUMAN
BEING.
THAT IS INCREDIBLY RELEVANT.
ONCE IT IS AN INDEPENDENT LIFE FORM
THEN THEY CAN SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO
TAKE CARE OF THAT LIFE FORM ANYMORE
WE NOW HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTECT THAT
LIFE FORM.
BEFORE IT BECOMES
INDEPENDENT IT IS DEPENDENT ON A
MOTHER AND YES THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT
TO DO WITH THAT ENTITY IN ANY WAY
THAT THEY CHOOSE.
>>BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE
OF IT ONCE IT IS INDEPENDENT.
ONCE
IT IS INDEPENDENT IT'S LIKE YOU WANT
PRESCHOOL, OR A DOCTOR.
NONE OF THAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
ALL YOU WANT
MATERNITY LEAVE, NONE OF THAT.
NOTHING MATTERS OF THIS BABY'S LIFE
OTHER THAN THE WOMEN IT IS ATTACHED
TO FOR THOSE SIX WEEKS OR NINE
MONTHS.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU,
YES, THE THIRD TRIMESTER IS NOT THE
FIRST TRIMESTER AND THERE IS A
DIFFERENCE.
BUT I THINK THE LAST
TIME WE WERE ON THE SHOW WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT EL SALVADOR, ABORTION
IS 100% CRIMINALIZED.
SO WHAT
HAPPENS?
THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE
WHEN YOU START TO INCREMENTALLY ROLL
BACK ROE V WADE.
WOMEN GET PITTED
AGAINST THEIR OWN ZYGOTES.
THEIR
LIVES ARE ACTUALLY TAKING A BACKSEAT
TO THE LIFE THAT IS INSIDE OF THEM.
SO JUST IN THE TIME SINCE I WAS
HERE, LAST WEEK, A YOUNG WOMAN WHO
WAS SUFFERING FROM LEUKEMIA AND GOT
PREGNANT WHO WANTED AN ABORTION AND
SOUGHT ONE, AND WAS DENIED ONE DIED.
SHE DIED BECAUSE SHE WAS DENIED HER
MEDICATION TO BE ABLE TO TREAT HER
LEUKEMIA AND HER BABY DID NOT LIVE
EITHER.
THE BABY WAS NEVER GOING TO
LIVE.
>>SUCH A GREAT PRO-LIFE POSITION TO
HAVE.
>> WHAT IF YOU GET INTO ISSUES LIKE
YOU SAID WHERE THE MOTHER'S HEALTH
IS AT RISK, YOU START TO GET INTO
VERY MURKY WATERS IF THERE WAS
INCEST OR RAPE, OR FOR WHATEVER
REASON THE WOMAN IS NOT ABLE TO
ACCESS AN ABORTION UNTIL THE THIRD
TRIMESTER THEN YOU GET INTO TRICKY ñ
YOU HAVE CONCEDED A HUGE AMOUNT OF
ETHICAL GROUND THAT THE VIABILITY OF
THE FETUS COULD CAUSE IT TO BE
ILLEGITIMATE FOR AN ABORTION.
I'M
NOT GOING TO SAY THIS IS A
BLACK-AND-WHITE ISSUE, BUT I THINK
IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A MOVEMENT
AROUND IT OR SOMETHING, I CAN'T SEE
HOW YOU CAN START TO CONCEDE SO MUCH
GROUND TO THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION
BECAUSE THERE IS A TON OF.
>> I THINK THAT UNFORTUNATELY EVEN
ON THIS PANEL WE HAVE ALLOWED A
RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS TO BECOME
CREDIBLE AND LEGITIMATE WHEN IN
REALITY IT IS NOT CREDIBLE OR
LEGITIMATE.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF
ABORTIONS HAPPEN IN THE FIRST AND
EARLY SECOND TRIMESTER.
THE ONLY
TIME YOU FIND DOCTORS THAT ARE
WILLING TO DO LATE-TERM ABORTIONS IS
WHEN THE WOMAN'S LIFE IS IN DANGER
OR THE FETUS IS NOT EVER GOING TO BE
VIABLE.
THERE ARE SERIOUS
ABNORMALITIES AND DEVELOPMENTAL
ISSUES THERE.
>> AND THEY FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES FOR
PERFORMING THOSE ABORTIONS.
>> THE WAY THAT THOSE ON THE RIGHT
PAINT ABORTION IS SO INACCURATE,
THEY MAKE IT SEEM AS THOUGH IT IS
LIKE A LIVING, BREATHING ALIEN OR
SOMETHING.
THAT WOMAN IS ABOUT TO
GIVE BIRTH TO A HEALTHY BABY AND
THEN SHE DECIDES LAST MINUTE MAYBE I
DON'T WANT THIS PREGNANCY ANYMORE
AND GOES TO AN ABORTION CLINIC.
IT
DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
>> AND ALL THE BABY PARTS WERE SOLD,
RIGHT?
>> ONCE IT IS VIABLE I DON'T THINK
THERE IS A CONVERSATION.
EVEN RAPE
DOESN'T MATTER ñ IF THE BABY IS
BORN, THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT IF IT IS RAPE OR
INCEST.
VIABILITY IS THE EQUIVALENT
OF BORN.
AND BY THE WAY THAT IS
BASICALLY WHAT ROE VERSUS WADE SAYS
AS WELL.
IT IS ALMOST NEVER RELEVANT
BECAUSE ALMOST ALL ABORTIONS HAPPEN
WAY EARLIER SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
IT ñ I ONLY BRING IT UP IN THE
CONTEXT OF I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT
BALANCE TO STRIKE BUT IF YOU START
SAYING ZYGOTES ARE HUMAN BEINGS, IT
IS NOT FACTUALLY TRUE AND EVEN IF IT
WERE SOMEHOW TRUE AND YOU COULD
CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT A ZYGOTE IS A
HUMAN BEING IS AT THE VERY LEAST A
DEPENDENT LIFE FORM, NOT AN
INDEPENDENT LIFE FORM.
>> I WISH WE COULD HAGGLE OVER LIFE
CARE FOR LIVING PEOPLE.
I WISH WE
WERE SO CONCERNED FOR CANCER
PATIENTS WHO WERE SO CONCERNED FOR
THEIR TREATMENTS.
AND WHAT IS THEIR
DEVELOPMENT.
I WISH CONGRESS AND
REPUBLICANS WERE AS CONCERNED WITH
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING AS ZYGOTES.
I
WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS, WHY DO
REPUBLICANS ALWAYS ñ WHEN THEY LOSE
EVERYWHERE ELSE ñ WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
>>EASY.
>>THEY LAUNCH A MULTI-FRONT WAR.
REPUBLICANS ARE VERY GOOD AT IT ñ
WHEN THEY ARE IN POWER THEY ATTACK
EVERY FRONT WITH FULL FORCE.
AND
THEY FORCED PROGRESSIVE ACTIVISTS TO
FIRE.
QUIETLY TWO DAYS AGO MIKE
PENCE CASSIDY DECIDING VOTE TO
PREVENT THE CONSUMER PROTECTION
BUREAU FROM ALLOWING CLASS-ACTION
LAWSUITS, SO THAT JUST FLIES UNDER
THE RADAR.
THERE IS A MULTI-FRONT
WAR GOING ON, AND THAT IS SOMETHING
THEY ARE JUST ALWAYS VERY GOOD AT.
IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
DEMOCRATS DO WHEN THEY ARE IN POWER.
>>AND BAIT PEOPLE, BAIT US INTO
HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, BAIT US
INTO ñ TO BAIT US INTO HAVING THESE
NON-SHADES OF GRAY CONVERSATIONS
THAT TAKE SERIOUS ISSUES OF ABORTION
ñ I FEEL LIKE IT IS JUST RED MEAT
FOR THE RED STATES.
>>INTENTIONS MATTER.
REPRESENTATIVE
STEVE KING IS A LOSER.
HE IS NOT THE
ONLY LOSER IN CONGRESS.
CONGRESS AS
A WHOLE IS FULL OF LOSERS BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE.
HOW DO
THEY GET REELECTED?
THEY PANDER TO
THE RIGHT WING BASE WITH THIS
NONSENSE.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW
MANY WOMEN HE HAS SLEPT WITH WHO
HAVE HAD ABORTIONS.
I AM NOT GOING
TO BUY FOR A SECOND THAT SOMEONE
LIKE STEVE KING HAS NOT KNOCKED UP A
MISTRESS OR TWO.
WE HAVE HAD A
NUMBER OF RIGHT WING ñ THEY GET
THEIR MISTRESSES PREGNANT AND ALL OF
A SUDDEN ABORTION IS FINE AND DANDY.
IT IS FOR POLITICAL BROWNIE
POINTS AND NOTHING MORE.
>>7/10 AMERICANS ARE PRO-CHOICE.
AND
THEY BELIEVE ROE VERSUS WADE SHOULD
BE PROTECTED.
THE REASON THE STEVE
KING'S OF THE WORLD DO THIS IS
BECAUSE IT DOES WORK WITH THEIR
BASE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO-CHOICE,
7/10, THEY DON'T VOTE BASED ON THIS
ISSUE.
YES, WOMEN'S WHITE RIGHTS ARE
CONSTANTLY ATTACKED AND A LOT OF
TIMES THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT ABLE TO
ENERGIZE WOMEN AND SAY FOR GOD SAKES
LET'S DEFEND OURSELVES.
THEY ARE
CONSTANTLY ON THE ATTACK.
DEMOCRATS
CANNOT FIND A WAY TO MUSTER UP THE
OFFENSE LET ALONE COUNTER ATTACK.
THAT IS WHY THEY KEEP PUTTING UP
BILLS LIKE THIS.
YOU SHOULD VOTE THE
OTHER WAY, YOU SHOULD WIN IN A
DEMOCRACY.
