THE SERIES ALSO GIVES A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO M.J.’S LEGENDARY ME
INSIGHT INTO M.J.’S LEGENDARY ME COMPETITIVENESS AND WHAT HE WAS
COMPETITIVENESS AND WHAT HE WAS LIKE OFF THE COURT.
LIKE OFF THE COURT. TODAY WE’RE JOINED BY HIS THREE
TODAY WE’RE JOINED BY HIS THREE CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. I BELIEVE THIS IS A TV FIRST
I BELIEVE THIS IS A TV FIRST HAVING ALL THREE OF YOU TOGETHER
HAVING ALL THREE OF YOU TOGETHER AT ONCE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH
AT ONCE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
FOR JOINING US. HERE IS THE THING, JEFFREY, I’LL
HERE IS THE THING, JEFFREY, I’LL START WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE
START WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE THE OLD ESTEST.
THE OLD ESTEST. YOU’RE 31.
YOU’RE 31. I THINK FOR MOST OF AMERICANS,
I THINK FOR MOST OF AMERICANS, THE FIRST FOUR EPISODES ISTHMUS
THE FIRST FOUR EPISODES ISTHMUS SEE TV.
SEE TV. I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEXT SIX.
I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEXT SIX. IS IT TRUE YOU’RE WATCHING IT
IS IT TRUE YOU’RE WATCHING IT WITH THE REST OF US, YOU HAVEN’T
WITH THE REST OF US, YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE EPISODES?
SEEN THE EPISODES? >> THAT’S TRUE.
>> THAT’S TRUE. THAT’S TRUE.
THAT’S TRUE. PART OF IT WAS ON PURPOSE, THE
PART OF IT WAS ON PURPOSE, THE OTHER KIND OF GOT LOST IN
OTHER KIND OF GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION.
TRANSLATION. I WOULDN’T HAVE IT ANY OTHER
I WOULDN’T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY, WATCHING IT LIVE AND SEEING
WAY, WATCHING IT LIVE AND SEEING THE REACTION OF THE WHOLE WORLD
THE REACTION OF THE WHOLE WORLD REALLY HAS BEEN AMAZING.
REALLY HAS BEEN AMAZING. I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS
I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS TO COME.
TO COME. >> JEFFREY, WHAT HAS STOOD OUT
>> JEFFREY, WHAT HAS STOOD OUT TO YOU MOST IN THE FIRST FOUR?
TO YOU MOST IN THE FIRST FOUR? >> I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIPS.
>> I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIPS. THERE ARE SO MANY STORIES ABOUT
THERE ARE SO MANY STORIES ABOUT THE DENNIS AND M.J. STORY, ABOUT
THE DENNIS AND M.J. STORY, ABOUT THE VACATION, SO MANY STORIES
THE VACATION, SO MANY STORIES ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PLAYERS AS WELL AS HOW PHIL
PLAYERS AS WELL AS HOW PHIL BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER.
BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. THAT’S REALLY BEEN NEW FOR ME TO
THAT’S REALLY BEEN NEW FOR ME TO HEAR AND COOL TO SEE.
HEAR AND COOL TO SEE. >> MARCUS, WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOUR
>> MARCUS, WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOUR MEMORIES FROM THIS TIME.
MEMORIES FROM THIS TIME. HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN THIS WAS
HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN THIS WAS ALL GOING DOWN AND WHAT DO YOU
ALL GOING DOWN AND WHAT DO YOU RECALL?
RECALL? >> YEAH, SURE.
>> YEAH, SURE. I WAS BORN CHRISTMAS EVE 1990.
I WAS BORN CHRISTMAS EVE 1990. SO I LIKE TO THINK I WAS THE
SO I LIKE TO THINK I WAS THE GOOD LUCK THAT STARTED THE
GOOD LUCK THAT STARTED THE CHAMPIONSHIP RUN IN THE ’90s.
CHAMPIONSHIP RUN IN THE ’90s. I’M NOT AS PATIENT AS JEFF.
I’M NOT AS PATIENT AS JEFF. I’VE TALKED TO JASON, THE
I’VE TALKED TO JASON, THE DIRECTOR, AND I’VE NAGGED MY DAD
DIRECTOR, AND I’VE NAGGED MY DAD A COUPLE OF TIMES TO GET SOME OF
A COUPLE OF TIMES TO GET SOME OF THE EPISODES EARLY.
THE EPISODES EARLY. SO I’M REALLY JUST LOVING HOW
SO I’M REALLY JUST LOVING HOW THE RECEPTION OF IT IS AND
THE RECEPTION OF IT IS AND EVERYBODY DEBATING WHO IS THE
EVERYBODY DEBATING WHO IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
GREATEST OF ALL TIME. I’M PRETTY SURE THIS DOCUMENTARY
I’M PRETTY SURE THIS DOCUMENTARY KIND OF ENDS ALL THAT.
KIND OF ENDS ALL THAT. >> HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST
>> HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST EPISODE?
EPISODE? HAVE YOU SEEN THE END?
HAVE YOU SEEN THE END? >> I’VE SEEN ONE THROUGH NINE.
>> I’VE SEEN ONE THROUGH NINE. I HAVEN’T SEEN TEN.
I HAVEN’T SEEN TEN. LAST TIME I TALKED TO JASON, HE
LAST TIME I TALKED TO JASON, HE TOLD ME THEY WERE STILL HOLED UP
TOLD ME THEY WERE STILL HOLED UP IN THEIR PARENT EDITING UNDER
IN THEIR PARENT EDITING UNDER QUARANTINE.
QUARANTINE. I SAW UP THROUGH NINE AND WE
I SAW UP THROUGH NINE AND WE HAVE A CAMEO THERE ALSO.
HAVE A CAMEO THERE ALSO. >>> JASMINE, YOUR FATHER, OF
>>> JASMINE, YOUR FATHER, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE MOST
COURSE, ONE OF THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE PEOPLE ON THE
RECOGNIZABLE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.
PLANET. AS A LITTLE GIRL, WHEN DID YOU
AS A LITTLE GIRL, WHEN DID YOU REALIZE MICHAEL JORDAN WAS
REALIZE MICHAEL JORDAN WAS MICHAEL JORDAN?
MICHAEL JORDAN? >> IT TOOK A WHILE.
>> IT TOOK A WHILE. I THINK I WAS LIKE 10, 11 YEARS
I THINK I WAS LIKE 10, 11 YEARS OLD WHEN I FINALLY JUST GOOGLED
OLD WHEN I FINALLY JUST GOOGLED HIM AND WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
HIM AND WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE WAS SO OBSESSED,
WHY EVERYONE WAS SO OBSESSED, WHY EVERYONE DIDN’T THINK HE HAD
WHY EVERYONE DIDN’T THINK HE HAD A REGULAR JOB LIKE I DID.
A REGULAR JOB LIKE I DID. IT TOOK A MINUTE.
IT TOOK A MINUTE. I GOOGLED HIM AND IT WAS LIKE,
I GOOGLED HIM AND IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, NOW I GET IT.
OKAY, NOW I GET IT. >> BEFORE THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW?
>> BEFORE THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW? YOU HAD TO GOOGLE DAD?
YOU HAD TO GOOGLE DAD? >> I HAD TO GOOGLE HIM.
>> I HAD TO GOOGLE HIM. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY BETWEEN HIM AND MY MOM, THEY
BETWEEN HIM AND MY MOM, THEY MADE SURE WE GREW UP NORMAL AND
MADE SURE WE GREW UP NORMAL AND DIDN’T VIEW HIM ANY DIFFERENTLY.
DIDN’T VIEW HIM ANY DIFFERENTLY. HE’S BEEN DAD FOR 27 YEARS.
HE’S BEEN DAD FOR 27 YEARS. EVEN AT THAT TIME HE WAS JUST
EVEN AT THAT TIME HE WAS JUST DAD.
DAD. I DIDN’T REALIZE HE WAS M.J.
I DIDN’T REALIZE HE WAS M.J. UNTIL PRETEENS AND MY EARLY
UNTIL PRETEENS AND MY EARLY YOUTH.
YOUTH. IT WAS SHOCKING.
IT WAS SHOCKING. >> JASMINE, AS YOU WATCHED THIS
>> JASMINE, AS YOU WATCHED THIS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, HAVE
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, HAVE YOU SEEN A SIDE OF YOUR FATHER
YOU SEEN A SIDE OF YOUR FATHER THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW EXISTED?
THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW EXISTED? >> YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS KNEW HE
>> YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS COMPETITIVE, I MEAN, HE
WAS COMPETITIVE, I MEAN, HE COMPETES WITH US PLAYING SUDOKU
COMPETES WITH US PLAYING SUDOKU OR LITTLE PUZZLES AT HOME BUT
OR LITTLE PUZZLES AT HOME BUT SEEING THAT IN HIM AND WHAT HE
SEEING THAT IN HIM AND WHAT HE HAD TO DO, IT’S BEEN INCREDIBLE
HAD TO DO, IT’S BEEN INCREDIBLE TO WATCH.
TO WATCH. >> JEFFREY, WHAT WAS CHILDHOOD
>> JEFFREY, WHAT WAS CHILDHOOD LIKE, WHEN YOU GROW UP THE SON
LIKE, WHEN YOU GROW UP THE SON OF MICHAEL JORDAN?
OF MICHAEL JORDAN? WHAT IS THAT LIKE?
WHAT IS THAT LIKE? >> YEAH, I THINK I WAS PROBABLY
>> YEAH, I THINK I WAS PROBABLY MORE AWARE OF IT EARLY ON
MORE AWARE OF IT EARLY ON BECAUSE OF BEING THE FIRST AND
BECAUSE OF BEING THE FIRST AND HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS
HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS.
WITH FRIENDS. I WAS OBVIOUSLY INTO SPORTS AND
I WAS OBVIOUSLY INTO SPORTS AND DOING A LOT OF ATHLETICS.
DOING A LOT OF ATHLETICS. MORE THAN ANYTHING JUST TRYING
MORE THAN ANYTHING JUST TRYING TO STAY ACTIVE AND STAY AS
TO STAY ACTIVE AND STAY AS SOCIAL AS POSSIBLE.
SOCIAL AS POSSIBLE. IT FELT PRETTY NORMAL TO
IT FELT PRETTY NORMAL TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MARCUS AND
PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MARCUS AND JASMINE SAID, WE KNEW WE WERE
JASMINE SAID, WE KNEW WE WERE BLESSED.
BLESSED. WE KNEW WE HAD A GREAT
WE KNEW WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN EDUCATION
OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN EDUCATION AND GROW UP IN A GREAT
AND GROW UP IN A GREAT SITUATION, BUT I THINK FOR US
SITUATION, BUT I THINK FOR US GROWING UP, OUR PARENTS, AS JAS
GROWING UP, OUR PARENTS, AS JAS SAID, THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT AS
SAID, THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SURE
NORMAL AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SURE WE’RE AS ACTIVITY AND SOCIAL AS
WE’RE AS ACTIVITY AND SOCIAL AS A NORMAL KID WOULD BE.
A NORMAL KID WOULD BE. >> MARCUS, YOU AND JEFFREY BOTH
>> MARCUS, YOU AND JEFFREY BOTH PLAYED BASKETBALL IN COLLEGE.
PLAYED BASKETBALL IN COLLEGE. WHAT WERE THOSE ONE-ON-ONE GAMES
WHAT WERE THOSE ONE-ON-ONE GAMES LIKE WITH DAD, MARCUS, GROWING
LIKE WITH DAD, MARCUS, GROWING UP?
UP? WOULD HE TREAT YOU TWO THE SAME
WOULD HE TREAT YOU TWO THE SAME WAY HE WOULD TREAT ISIAH THOMAS,
WAY HE WOULD TREAT ISIAH THOMAS, OR WOULD HE GO A LITTLE LIGHTER
OR WOULD HE GO A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN YOU TWO?
THAN YOU TWO? >> HE WOULD TREAT US EXACTLY THE
>> HE WOULD TREAT US EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS ANY OTHER BASKETBALL
SAME WAY AS ANY OTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER PLAYING.
PLAYER PLAYING. THERE’S ACTUALLY A STORY I HAVE
THERE’S ACTUALLY A STORY I HAVE FROM WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER AND
FROM WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER AND PLAYING ONE-ON-ONE ON ONE
PLAYING ONE-ON-ONE ON ONE AGAINST MY DAD.
AGAINST MY DAD. WHOEVER SCORES GETS TO KEEP IT.
WHOEVER SCORES GETS TO KEEP IT. THE GAME GOT SO COMPETITIVE TO
THE GAME GOT SO COMPETITIVE TO THE POINT I LIKE I LITERALLY HAD
THE POINT I LIKE I LITERALLY HAD TO GO CALL MY MOM.
TO GO CALL MY MOM. I WAS LIKE, DAD IS PICKING ON
I WAS LIKE, DAD IS PICKING ON ME.
ME. HE WAS YOUNG.
HE WAS YOUNG. I WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. IT GOES TO SHOW WE’RE ALL
IT GOES TO SHOW WE’RE ALL COMPETITIVE AND WE WANTED TO
COMPETITIVE AND WE WANTED TO WIN.
WIN. THERE WAS NOTHING GIVEN.
THERE WAS NOTHING GIVEN. YOU HAD TO EARN EVERYTHING FOR
YOU HAD TO EARN EVERYTHING FOR SURE.
SURE. >> JASMINE, WE’RE ALL STAYING
>> JASMINE, WE’RE ALL STAYING BUSY IN QUARANTINE.
BUSY IN QUARANTINE. YOU HAVE A LITTLE ONE.
YOU HAVE A LITTLE ONE. I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOUR
I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOUR LITTLE BOY A FEW MONTHS AGO.
LITTLE BOY A FEW MONTHS AGO. HE TURNS ONE NEXT WEEK.
HE TURNS ONE NEXT WEEK. HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO
HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO CELEBRATE IN QUARANTINE?
CELEBRATE IN QUARANTINE? >> WE’RE GOING TO HAVE JUST A
>> WE’RE GOING TO HAVE JUST A QUARANTINE GATHERING, JUST
QUARANTINE GATHERING, JUST MYSELF AND MY FIANCEE AND HIM
MYSELF AND MY FIANCEE AND HIM AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE BALLOONS
AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE BALLOONS EVERYWHERE.
EVERYWHERE. I’M GOING TO MAKE BIRTHDAY CAKE.
I’M GOING TO MAKE BIRTHDAY CAKE. IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME I’VE
IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME I’VE BAKED, SO WE’LL SEE HOW THAT
BAKED, SO WE’LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
GOES. IT’S GOING TO BE EXCITING.
IT’S GOING TO BE EXCITING. WE’RE BLESSED AND FORTUNATE WE
WE’RE BLESSED AND FORTUNATE WE GET TO SPEND IT TOGETHER UNDER
GET TO SPEND IT TOGETHER UNDER CRAZY CIRCUMSTANCES.
CRAZY CIRCUMSTANCES. WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING
WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING TOGETHER AS A FAMILY.
TOGETHER AS A FAMILY. >> ARE THE WEDDING PLANS STILL
>> ARE THE WEDDING PLANS STILL ON TRACK FOR THE FULL?
ON TRACK FOR THE FULL? >> WEDDING PLANS ARE STILL ON
>> WEDDING PLANS ARE STILL ON TRACK.
TRACK. WE’RE WURKPUSHING FORWARD.
WE’RE WURKPUSHING FORWARD. FINGERS CROSSED WE KEEP IT
FINGERS CROSSED WE KEEP IT GOING.
GOING. >> JEFFREY, BEFORE I LET YOU
>> JEFFREY, BEFORE I LET YOU GUYS GO, IN TERMS OF LIFE
GUYS GO, IN TERMS OF LIFE LESSONS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
LESSONS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LIFE LESSONS MICHAEL JORDAN
LIFE LESSONS MICHAEL JORDAN IMPRESSED ON YOU KIDS.
IMPRESSED ON YOU KIDS. I’LL START WITH YOU.
I’LL START WITH YOU. >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT YOU
>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WHEN WE DECIDED TO
WANT TO DO, WHEN WE DECIDED TO PLAY BASKETBALL, FIRST THING HE
PLAY BASKETBALL, FIRST THING HE SAID WAS MAKE IT FUN.
SAID WAS MAKE IT FUN. HE BARELY GAVE US ADVICE OR
HE BARELY GAVE US ADVICE OR TRIED TO MAKE IT SERIOUS EARLY
TRIED TO MAKE IT SERIOUS EARLY ON.
ON. DEFINITELY ENJOYING WHETHER IT’S
DEFINITELY ENJOYING WHETHER IT’S WORK, BEING AT HOME, FAMILY
WORK, BEING AT HOME, FAMILY TIME, WHATEVER IT IS YOU DO
TIME, WHATEVER IT IS YOU DO ENJOY IT AND LOVE IT BECAUSE
ENJOY IT AND LOVE IT BECAUSE LIFE IS SHORT AND YOU WANT TO
LIFE IS SHORT AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.
MAKE THE BEST OF IT. >> MARCUS?
>> MARCUS? >> FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I’M TRYING
>> FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I’M TRYING TO NAVIGATE MY BUSINESS WITH
TO NAVIGATE MY BUSINESS WITH TROPHY ROOM.
TROPHY ROOM. ONE OF THE THINGS I’VE TAKEN
ONE OF THE THINGS I’VE TAKEN FROM MY DAD, DON’T BE AFRAID TO
FROM MY DAD, DON’T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS.
ASK QUESTIONS. IT’S SOMETHING THAT’S NEW FOR ME
IT’S SOMETHING THAT’S NEW FOR ME AND SOMETHING THAT I WAS HAVING
AND SOMETHING THAT I WAS HAVING CHALLENGES EARLY ON WITH.
CHALLENGES EARLY ON WITH. HIS THOUGHTS WERE, YOU KNOW, AS
HIS THOUGHTS WERE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU ASK ENOUGH QUESTIONS
LONG AS YOU ASK ENOUGH QUESTIONS TO FIGURE IT OUT AND NAVIGATE IT
TO FIGURE IT OUT AND NAVIGATE IT YOURSELF, YOU’LL BE FINE.
YOURSELF, YOU’LL BE FINE. >> JASMINE, I’LL END WITH YOU.
>> JASMINE, I’LL END WITH YOU. WHAT HAS DAD TAUGHT YOU?
WHAT HAS DAD TAUGHT YOU? >> HE’S REALLY TAUGHT ME JUST TO
>> HE’S REALLY TAUGHT ME JUST TO BE AUTHENTIC AND TO BE MYSELF.
BE AUTHENTIC AND TO BE MYSELF. NO MATTER WHAT I DO AND WHAT WE
NO MATTER WHAT I DO AND WHAT WE DO, JUST COMMIT TO IT.
DO, JUST COMMIT TO IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO WE
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO WE ARE IS TRULY OUR POWER, THAT’S
ARE IS TRULY OUR POWER, THAT’S OUR GIFT.
OUR GIFT. NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM
NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.
US. ALL WE CAN DO IS FOCUS ON WHAT
ALL WE CAN DO IS FOCUS ON WHAT WE CONTROL AND WHAT WE NEED TO
WE CONTROL AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO REALLY JUST BE OURSELVES.
DO TO REALLY JUST BE OURSELVES. I LIVE BY THAT EVERY DAY.
I LIVE BY THAT EVERY DAY. >> JASMINE, THANK YOU.
>> JASMINE, THANK YOU. MARCUS, THANK YOU.
MARCUS, THANK YOU. JEFFREY, THANK YOU AS WELL.
