>>> ZE SPITE
>>> ZE SPITE DESPITE THE PRESIDENT’S
DESPITE THE PRESIDENT’S DECLARATION OF A VERY GOOD
DECLARATION OF A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH NORTH KOREA
RELATIONSHIP WITH NORTH KOREA THAT COUNTRY MAY BE PREPARING
THAT COUNTRY MAY BE PREPARING ITS OWN FIRE AND FURY AGAINST
ITS OWN FIRE AND FURY AGAINST THE U.S.
THE U.S. THE"THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS
THE"THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS TRUMP HAS ESSENTIALLY SHRUGGED
TRUMP HAS ESSENTIALLY SHRUGGED OFF THE ROCKET TESTS THAT NORTH
OFF THE ROCKET TESTS THAT NORTH KOREA HAS CONDUCTED SINCE MAY.
KOREA HAS CONDUCTED SINCE MAY. ANALYSIS OF THE LATEST SATELLITE
ANALYSIS OF THE LATEST SATELLITE PHOTOS PROVIDED TO NBC NEWS
PHOTOS PROVIDED TO NBC NEWS INDICATE THE REGIME MAY BE
INDICATE THE REGIME MAY BE EXPANDING A FACTORY RELATED TO
EXPANDING A FACTORY RELATED TO THE PRODUCTION OF LONG RANGE
THE PRODUCTION OF LONG RANGE NUCLEAR MISSILES.
NUCLEAR MISSILES. THIS IS THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT
THIS IS THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT IN AN EVER EVOLVING RELATIONSHIP
IN AN EVER EVOLVING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP EXPECTAND T
BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP EXPECTAND T NORTH KOREAN LEADER.
NORTH KOREAN LEADER. >> NORTH KOREA BEST NOT MAKE ANY
>> NORTH KOREA BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED
MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES.
STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND
THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER
FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN.
SEEN. ROCKETMAN IS ON A SUICIDE
ROCKETMAN IS ON A SUICIDE MISSION FOR HIMSELF AND FOR HIS
MISSION FOR HIMSELF AND FOR HIS REGIME.
REGIME. AND THEN WE FELL IN LOVE.
AND THEN WE FELL IN LOVE. OKAY?
OKAY? NO, REALLY.
NO, REALLY. HE WROTE ME BEAUTIFUL LETTERS.
HE WROTE ME BEAUTIFUL LETTERS. AND THEY’RE GREAT LETTERS.
AND THEY’RE GREAT LETTERS. WE FELL IN LOVE.
WE FELL IN LOVE. AND WE GOT TO MEET, AND STEPPING
AND WE GOT TO MEET, AND STEPPING ACROSS THAT LINE WAS A GREAT
ACROSS THAT LINE WAS A GREAT HONOR.
HONOR. A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.
A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. I’D BE SURPRISED IF NORTH KOREA
I’D BE SURPRISED IF NORTH KOREA ACTED HOSTILELY.
ACTED HOSTILELY. I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP
I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM JONG-UN.
WITH KIM JONG-UN. >> KIM JONG-UN IS THREATENING A
>> KIM JONG-UN IS THREATENING A CHRISTMAS SURPRISE FOR THE
CHRISTMAS SURPRISE FOR THE WORLD.
WORLD. >> OH, THAT’S OKAY.
>> OH, THAT’S OKAY. WE’LL FIND OUT WHAT THE SURPRISE
WE’LL FIND OUT WHAT THE SURPRISE IS AND WE’LL DEAL WITH IT VERY
IS AND WE’LL DEAL WITH IT VERY SUCCESSFULLY.
SUCCESSFULLY. MAYBE IT’S A NICE PRESENT.
MAYBE IT’S A NICE PRESENT. MAYBE IT’S A PRESENT WHERE HE
MAYBE IT’S A PRESENT WHERE HE SENDS ME A BEAUTIFUL VASE.
SENDS ME A BEAUTIFUL VASE. AS OPPOSED TO A MISSILE TEST.
AS OPPOSED TO A MISSILE TEST. RIGHT?
RIGHT? I MAY GET A VASE.
I MAY GET A VASE. >> AND MORE RECENTLY IT LOOKS
>> AND MORE RECENTLY IT LOOKS LIKE NORTH KOREA IS REJECTING
LIKE NORTH KOREA IS REJECTING TRUMP’S DESIRES FOR ANOTHER
TRUMP’S DESIRES FOR ANOTHER SUMMIT.
SUMMIT. NORTH KOREA’S FOREIGN MINISTER
NORTH KOREA’S FOREIGN MINISTER ADVISOR TOLD STATE MEDIA
ADVISOR TOLD STATE MEDIA THAT, "ERER NO LONGER INTERESTS
THAT, "ERER NO LONGER INTERESTS IN SUCH TALKS THAT BRING NOTHING
IN SUCH TALKS THAT BRING NOTHING TO US."
TO US." BACK WITH US TONIGHT, GORDON
BACK WITH US TONIGHT, GORDON SHANE, COLUMNIST FOR THE "DAILY
SHANE, COLUMNIST FOR THE "DAILY BEAST" AND AUTHOR OF NUCLEAR
BEAST" AND AUTHOR OF NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN: NORTH KOREA TAKES ON
SHOWDOWN: NORTH KOREA TAKES ON THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. GORDON, THANKS FOR JOINING US.
GORDON, THANKS FOR JOINING US. LET’S TAKE STOCK AT THE END OF
LET’S TAKE STOCK AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE YEAR. HAVE ALL OF THESE MISSILE TESTS,
HAVE ALL OF THESE MISSILE TESTS, VARIOUS MISSILE TESTS THROUGHOUT
VARIOUS MISSILE TESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, YOU HAVE TRUMP LOOKING
THE YEAR, YOU HAVE TRUMP LOOKING THE OTHER WAY ON THEM.
THE OTHER WAY ON THEM. AS ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN PLAYING
AS ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN PLAYING OUT AT THE END OF 2019, HOW HAS
OUT AT THE END OF 2019, HOW HAS NORTH KOREA’S POSITION CHANGED
NORTH KOREA’S POSITION CHANGED IN TERMS OF ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM
IN TERMS OF ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM THIS YEAR?
THIS YEAR? >> NORTH KOREA’S MADE A LOT OF
>> NORTH KOREA’S MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS BOTH ON BALLISTIC
PROGRESS BOTH ON BALLISTIC MISSILES AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
MISSILES AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS. MANY PEOPLE THINK THEY’VE
MANY PEOPLE THINK THEY’VE ACTUALLY DOUBLED THEIR ARSENAL
ACTUALLY DOUBLED THEIR ARSENAL OF WAR HEADS.
OF WAR HEADS. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE 13 MISSILE
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE 13 MISSILE OR ROCKET TESTS YOU JUST TALKED
OR ROCKET TESTS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, THOSE ARE VIOLATIONS OF
ABOUT, THOSE ARE VIOLATIONS OF U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL
U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS AND THE PROBLEM OF
RESOLUTIONS AND THE PROBLEM OF IGNORING THEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE
IGNORING THEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID IS THE CHINESE SAID, OH,
DID IS THE CHINESE SAID, OH, WELL, I’M GOING TO VIOLATE THOSE
WELL, I’M GOING TO VIOLATE THOSE SANCTIONS AS WELL.
SANCTIONS AS WELL. AND WHAT WE HAD IS BOTH RUSSIA
AND WHAT WE HAD IS BOTH RUSSIA AND CHINA OPENLY VIOLATED U.N.
AND CHINA OPENLY VIOLATED U.N. RULES.
RULES. YOU GOT THE NORTH KOREANS DOING
YOU GOT THE NORTH KOREANS DOING IT.
IT. SOUTH KOREANSMENT WANT TO DO THA
SOUTH KOREANSMENT WANT TO DO THA AND ALL OF THAT UNDERCUTS
AND ALL OF THAT UNDERCUTS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DIPLOMACY
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DIPLOMACY BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY IS
BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY IS FALLING INTO KIM’S COFFERS
FALLING INTO KIM’S COFFERS BECAUSE OF THE VIOLATION OF
BECAUSE OF THE VIOLATION OF THESE RULES.
THESE RULES. >> YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A
>> YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT SEEMS TO BE
PROGRAM THAT SEEMS TO BE ADVANCING, NORTH KOREA ALSO SAID
ADVANCING, NORTH KOREA ALSO SAID DENUCLEARIZATION WAS OFF THE
DENUCLEARIZATION WAS OFF THE TABLE.
TABLE. THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT VOW FROM NORTH KOREA.
THAT VOW FROM NORTH KOREA. HERE WAS HIS RESPONSE JUST A
HERE WAS HIS RESPONSE JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. >> I’D BE SURPRISED IF NORTH
>> I’D BE SURPRISED IF NORTH KOREA ACTED HOSTILELY.
KOREA ACTED HOSTILELY. I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP
I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM JONG-UN.
WITH KIM JONG-UN. I THINK WE BOTH WANT TO KEEP IT
I THINK WE BOTH WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
THAT WAY. HE KNOWS I HAVE AN ELECTION
HE KNOWS I HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP.
COMING UP. I DON’T THINK HE WANTS TO
I DON’T THINK HE WANTS TO INTERFERE WITH THAT.
INTERFERE WITH THAT. BUT WE’LL HAVE TO SEE.
BUT WE’LL HAVE TO SEE. >> SO, GIVEN WHAT YOU’RE
>> SO, GIVEN WHAT YOU’RE DESCRIBING AND IF THAT CONTINUES
DESCRIBING AND IF THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE TONE OF THE RESPONSE
TO BE THE TONE OF THE RESPONSE FROM TRUMP, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
FROM TRUMP, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
THAT? IS THERE ANYTHING TO BE GAINED
IS THERE ANYTHING TO BE GAINED BY RESPONDING THE WAY HE IS?
BY RESPONDING THE WAY HE IS? >> ACTUALLY, I WOULD ACTUALLY
>> ACTUALLY, I WOULD ACTUALLY START TO GO AFTER NORTH KOREA,
START TO GO AFTER NORTH KOREA, SANCTION THEM, BUT MORE
SANCTION THEM, BUT MORE IMPORTANT, GO AFTER THE
IMPORTANT, GO AFTER THE SPONSORS, RUSSIA AND CHINA.
SPONSORS, RUSSIA AND CHINA. CHINESE BANKS, FOR INSTANCE,
CHINESE BANKS, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE BEEN HANDLING NORTH KOREA’S
HAVE BEEN HANDLING NORTH KOREA’S MONEY.
MONEY. THAT’S NOT ONLY A VIOLATION OF
THAT’S NOT ONLY A VIOLATION OF U.N. RULES, THAT’S A VIOLATION
U.N. RULES, THAT’S A VIOLATION OF THE U.S. PATRIOT ACT.
OF THE U.S. PATRIOT ACT. THIS IS MONEY LAUNDERING THROUGH
THIS IS MONEY LAUNDERING THROUGH THIS CITY, NEW YORK, AND WE’RE
THIS CITY, NEW YORK, AND WE’RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO
IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO DISARM NORTH KOREA WITHOUT THE
DISARM NORTH KOREA WITHOUT THE USE OF FORCE OR EVEN WITHOUT THE
USE OF FORCE OR EVEN WITHOUT THE THREAT OF FORCE, ALL HE HAS TO
THREAT OF FORCE, ALL HE HAS TO DO IS GO AFTER THOSE BIG FOUR
DO IS GO AFTER THOSE BIG FOUR CHINESE BANKS BECAUSE ALL OF THE
