COVID-19 RESPONSE.
AT THE END OF A FAIRLY BUSY WEEK
HERE ON PARLIAMENT HILL.
WE ARE EXPECTING A BAG OF MIXED 
TOPICS FROM THE PRIME MINISTER.
HE WILL, WE ARE TOLD, ADDRESS 
OPERATION LASER.
THAT'S THE CANADIAN FORCES 
RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS IN 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES THAT HAVE 
BEEN HIT SO HARD IN THE 
PANDEMIC.
THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO LEAVE 
THOSE MISSIONS TODAY, SO WE'LL 
HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN IS
GOING FORWARD.
HE'LL ALSO TALK ACT, WE ARE 
TOLD, NEW SCREENING MEASURES FOR
AIR PASSENGERS, SOMETHING WE'RE 
HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM MARC 
GARNEAU.
THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT OF BACK 
AND FORTH THIS WEEK AROUND THE 
CERB BENEFIT, SOME CHANGES THAT 
THE GOVERNMENT WAS HOPING TO 
MAKE HAVE BEEN NOW DELAYED 
BECAUSE OF WHAT ESSENTIALLY IS A
STANDOFF BETWEEN VARIOUS 
POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE 
GOVERNMENT INSIDE THE HOUSE OF 
COMMONS.
SO WE'LL SEE WHETHER THERE'S ANY
UPDATE ON PROGRESS ON THAT 
FRONT.
LET ME BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES, 
THE HOST OF "POWER & POLITICS", 
VASSY KAPELOS AND THE CBC'S 
CATHERINE CULLEN JOINING ME FOR 
OUR SPECIAL GOVRJ COVERAGE 
TODAY.
THE PRIME MINISTER'S BEEN IN 
OTHER LOCATIONS AND DOING OTHER 
THINGS OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS.
ONE DAY DOING A CONVOCATION 
SPEECH, ANOTHER DAY VISITING A 
COMPANY.
WE TOOK THAT QUESTION AND ANSWER
PERIOD, BUT HE'S BACK TO HIS 
REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING,
IF YOU WILL, TODAY, VASSY, AND 
WE ARE EXPECTING MORE NEWS ON 
THE LONG-TERM CARE HOMES AND, AS
WELL, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW 
THAT PREMIER'S CALL WENT LAST 
NIGHT.
>> Vassy: YEAH, A COUPLE OF 
THINGS TO JUMP OFF ON THAT YOU 
MENGED, ROSIE.
FIRST OF ALL, COVID-19 RELATED, 
MY UNDERSTANDING IS UP FOR 
CONVERSATION BY THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS A POSSIBILITY OF 
TEMPERATURE SCREENING AT 
AIRPORTS.
SO IF THERE IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT 
ABOUT THAT, THAT IS MY 
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE 
CONTENT WILL BE.
ON THE ISSUE OF THE MILITARY, 
THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT 
THING AS WELL, AND WE'VE TALKED 
SO OFTEN ON THIS PROGRAM ABOUT 
THAT, THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, 
MORE THAN A THOUSAND -- MORE 
THAN 1600 AT CERTAIN POINTS, 
MILITARY, MEMBERS OF THE 
MILITARY, WERE STATIONED IN 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES IN ONTARIO.
THEY'RE IN FIVE RIGHT NOW, A 
DIFFERENT FIVE THAN ORIGINALLY, 
AND I THINK THEY'RE IN ABOUT 14 
IN QUEBEC.
THAT NUMBER HAS REDUCED A BIT.
BUT THE PREMIERS OF BOTH 
PROVINCES HAVE ASKED THE 
MILITARY TO STAY ON AS LONG AS 
NEEDED.
THAT DATE IS NOT FIXED OR FINITE
FOR THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT, BUT 
FOR QUEBEC IT'S VERY SPECIFIC, 
TO STAY UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF 
SEPTEMBER.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SO 
FAR BEEN RESISTANT TO COMMIT TO 
THAT SPECIFICALLY.
THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE SAID IT 
WAS NOT SUSTAINABLE TO STAY THAT
LONG AND THEN THE MINISTER OF 
PUBLIC SAFETY, WHO MY 
UNDERSTANDING IS WHO OVERSEES 
THE FILE NOW, SAID THIS WEEK 
THAT THEY WILL STAY, BUT IT 
MIGHT BE A MIXTURE OF, FOR 
EXAMPLE, MEMBERS OF THE RED 
CROSS AND MILITARY MEMBERS.
THEY HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY 
SPECIFICS OF WHAT THAT WILL LOOK
LIKE.
CERTAINLY I EXPECT THERE TO BE 
QUESTIONS TO THE PRIME MINISTER 
ON THAT GIVEN WHAT YOU 
MENTIONED, ROSIE, THAT THE 
EXPIRATION DATE UNOFFICIALLY IS 
TODAY.
I DON'T IMAGINE THAT THE 
MILITARY IS PULLING OUT TONIGHT 
BY ANY MEANS, BUT PREMIERS ARE 
LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION ABOUT
WHAT IS TO COME.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO 
MENTION, AND CATHERINE HAS DONE 
A LOT OF WORK ABOUT FINDING OUT 
ABOUT THE FIRST MINISTER'S CALL.
I WANT TO TOUCH ON CHIEF ALLAN 
ADAM OF THE CHIP WAN FIRST 
NATION.
I AM TOLD THAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER WILL ADDRESS WHAT WAS 
RELEASED LAST NIGHT THROUGH 
CHIEF ADAM'S LAWYER, AND THAT IS
THE VIDEO, THE FULL DASH CAM 
VIDEO, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS TOUGH
TO WATCH.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE.
AND WE KNOW THAT CHIEF ADAM HAS 
MADE ALLEGATIONS OF UNDUE AND 
UNDERSTANDABLY UNDUE FORCE BY 
THE RCMP.
THE RCMP HAD LOOKED AT THAT 
VIDEO AND DETERMINED THAT THAT 
FORCE WAS NOT EXCESSIVE, AND I 
THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF 
QUESTIONS TODAY ABOUT HOW THEY 
COULD HAVE ARRIVED AT THAT 
CONCLUSION.
CERTAINLY CHIEF ADAM'S LAWYER IS
RAISING THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT 
NOW.
AND I'M TOLD -- AND ALSO 
DOVETAILS INTO THE CONVERSATION 
THAT YOU HAD WITH COMMISSIONER 
BRENDA LUCKI THIS WEEK ABOUT THE
SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE RCMP AND 
HER NOT SAYING THAT THERE WAS, 
AND THEN THE PRIME MINISTER 
ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT 
YESTERDAY AND MAINTAINING THAT 
THERE IS SYSTEMIC RACISM.
I MEAN, THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF
ISSUES THAT COME OUT OF THIS 
VIDEO, BUT I AM TOLD THAT THE 
PRIME MINISTER DOES WANT TO 
ADDRESS IT IN HIS REMARKS, AND I
THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT 
OF QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY WHERE
THE RCMP IS CONCERNED.
I KNOW THIS IS SORT OF ONGOING 
AND BEFORE THE COURTS, BUT HIS 
LAWYER, CHIEF ADAM'S LAWYER, 
REALLY DOES RAISE THAT QUESTION,
HOW COULD THE RCMP -- AND IF YOU
WATCH THE VIDEO, I THINK THE 
QUESTION JUMPS TO EVERYONE'S 
MIND, HOW COULD THEY HAVE 
WATCHED THAT AND THOUGHT THAT 
FORCE WAS NOT EXCESSIVE.
I KNOW THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION
GOING ON.
IT IS BEFORE THE COURTS, BUT MY 
UNDERSTANDING IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER WILL ADDRESS IT.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, I WILL SAY 
THAT THAT VIDEO CERTAINLY MADE 
CLEAR THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING 
HAPPENING THERE THAT DIDN'T MAKE
A LOT OF SENSE TO A LOT OF 
PEOPLE, GIVEN THE WAY THE CHIEF 
WAS RUSHED BY POLICE, TACKLED, 
ESSENTIALLY, BY THE RCMP AND 
THROWN TO THE GROUND.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WHEN 
I ASKED COMMISSIONER LUCKI ABOUT
AN INCIDENT IN NUNAVUT WHERE A 
MAN WAS HIT WITH A MOVING RCMP 
VEHICLE, WHERE THE DOOR HAD BEEN
OPENED AND HE WAS HIT DOWN BY 
THAT DOOR, SHE WAS VERY QUICK TO
SAY THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE AN 
APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
BECAUSE THE DASH CAM VIDEO WAS 
NOT OUT WHEN WE DID THAT 
INTERVIEW, ALTHOUGH I WOULD 
IMAGINE -- I'M JUST POSITING 
HERE, I WOULD IMAGINE SHE WOULD 
HAVE SEEN IT OR AT THE VERY 
LEAST BEEN GIVEN A DESCRIPTION, 
SHE DIDN'T WEIGH IN IN THE SAME 
WAY AROUND THAT VIDEO, ALSO 
CITING THAT IT WAS UNDER 
INVESTIGATION BY THE ALBERTA 
FORCES THAT LOOK INTO THOSE 
OUTSIDE INVESTIGATIONS.
ANYWAY, WE WILL PLAY A LITTLE 
BIT OF THE VIDEO AND 
COMMISSIONER LUCKI'S RESPONSE TO
THAT AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD 
HERE, BUT I'LL BRING IN 
CATHERINE JUST TO EITHER WEIGH 
IN ON THAT, CATHERINE, BUT AS 
VASSY SAID YOU'VE BEEN DOING A 
LOT OF WORK ON THE FIRST 
MINISTERS CALL LAST NIGHT.
>> Catherine: I WANT TO NOTE 
SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM ANDREW 
SCHEER.
HE WAS ASKED TO WEIGH IN ON THE 
VIDEO AS WELL.
HE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING VERY 
DISTURBING.
HE WAS HESITANT TO SPEAK ABOUT 
IT TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT IS NOT 
ONLY THE SUBJECT OF AN EXTERNAL 
INVESTIGATION IN ALBERTA, BUT 
ALSO THE SUBJECT OF A COURT CASE
AS WELL.
BUT HE DID PRESS FOR PARTICULAR 
ACTION, AND I THINK THIS IS 
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
WANTING TO WATCH TODAY.
NOT ONLY WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER
SAYS ABOUT THIS BUT WITH THIS 
PARTICULARLY POIGNANT EXAMPLE, 
AND YOU POINT TO ANOTHER ONE, 
RECOGNIZE, WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIONS
IS THE GOVERNMENT LOOKING AT TO 
ADDRESS THIS.
WE KNOW THE PRIME MINISTER HAS 
TALKED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF 
BODY CAMS.
HE RAISED THAT LAST NIGHT IN HIS
CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRST 
MINISTERS.
PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN TERMS 
OF A PROVINCIAL-TERRITORIAL 
DISCUSSION IS WHO IS GOING TO 
PAY FOR THAT IF INDEED EVERYBODY
IS ON SIDE.
ANDREW SCHEER ALSO SAYING IF THE
PRIME MINISTER -- GIVEN THAT THE
PRIME MINISTER SAYS THAT THERE 
IS SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE RCMP 
AND HE WANTS THAT ADDRESSED, 
WHAT ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, 
ADDITIONAL MONEY TO -- OR 
RESOURCES, WHATEVER IT TAKES, TO
DEAL WITH THE BACKLOG OF 
COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE RCMP?
HE'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 
SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN PRIME 
MINISTER FOR SOME TIME, WHY 
HASN'T HE DONE MORE ON THIS 
PARTICULAR ISSUE.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, I'M GOING TO 
LEAVE IT THERE JUST QUICKLY WITH
BOTH OF YOU, BUT I WILL COME 
BACK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED 
THIS WEEK AS I ALLUDED TO THERE 
WAS A MOVE FOR SOME LEGISLATION 
HERE TO BE PASSED ON PARLIAMENT 
HILL, AND IT WOULD HAVE DONE A 
COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS GOING TO BE
THE LEGISLATION THAT PASSED THE 
TAX CREDIT FOR -- INCREASED TAX 
CREDIT FOR PEOPLE, CANADIANS 
WITH DISABILITIES, SO IT WAS 
GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY.
BUT THE OTHER THING THE BILL WAS
GOING TO DO WAS TO LEVY SOME 
FINES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WRONGLY
COLLECTED CERB FUNDS.
SOME PEOPLE, NAMELY THE NDP, 
HAVE CALLED THIS VERY 
HEAVIHANDED.
YOU'LL RECALL THAT THE DRAFT 
LEGISLATION, AS I SAID, IT 
DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE THE 
OPPOSITIONS WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.
THEY TRIED TO USE IT FOR 
LEVERAGE.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE 
CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THE 
GOVERNMENT IS NOW SAYING, AND 
IELD BRING IN DIANNE DYSON IN 
MONTREAL.
THE DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND 
PUBLIC POLICY OF THE CHARITABLE 
ORGANIZATION THE NEIGHBOURHOOD 
GROUP.
DIANNE, NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> HI, NICE TO SEE YOU, ROSIE.
>> Rosemary: SO WHAT ARE YOUR 
CONCERNS, THEN, AROUND THE 
PENALTIES AND FINES FOR PEOPLE 
THAT HAVE WRONGLY FILED FOR THE 
CERB?
BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING 
THAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING 
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO 
DEFRAUD THE SYSTEM, NOT PEOPLE 
THAT HAVE MADE A MISTAKE, AS THE
PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR AMONG 
THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW -- THE 
RULES WERE SHIFTING EARLY ON, 
AND QUICKLY.
I WAS STILL YESTERDAY TRYING TO 
EXPLAIN THAT, FOR INSTANCE, 
SELF-EMPLOYED AND PRECARIOUS -- 
MORE PRECARIOUS EMPLOYEES WERE 
ALLOWED TO APPLY.
THE RULES SHIFTED SO QUICKLY.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IF THEY 
STEPPED OVER THE LINE OR NOT.
SO I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT 
ARE FEARFUL.
>> Rosemary: MM-HM.
BUT IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW, IF 
THERE WAS NO INTENT TO TRY AND 
GET MONEY THAT THEY DIDN'T 
DESERVE, DOES THAT -- DO YOU 
THINK THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE 
REASON TO BE FEARFUL?
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THEM, I 
GUESS?
>> I GUESS THE POLITICAL PROBLEM
IS THAT IT MAKES PEOPLE DISTRUST
GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY HEARD 
THE MESSAGE THAT IF YOU WERE IN 
NEED YOU SHOULD APPLY AND IT 
WILL ALL BE RECTIFIED WHEN WE DO
TAX RECONCILIATION AT THE END OF
THE YEAR WHEN YOU FILE YOUR 
INCOME TAX.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN GOVERNMENT GO 
AFTER THE OFFSHORE CORPORATE 
ACCOUNTS OR OTHER THINGS LIKE 
THAT, AND THEN TO SEE THIS BILL 
INTRODUCED RIGHT WHEN THERE'S 
SOME POLITICAL MANOEUVRING GOING
ON CREATES JUST MORE 
UNSETTLEMENT FOR PEOPLE.
>> Rosemary: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT
THAT IT IS COMING TO AN END, THE
GOVERNMENT, AGAIN, SEEMS TO BE 
WORKING ON SOME SORT OF SOLUTION
SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T, YOU KNOW,
LEFT HIGH AND DRY, CERTAINLY, 
BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE 
THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SAYING 
ABOUT CONCERNS THAT THEY ARE 
FEARFUL ABOUT WHERE THEIR MONEY 
AND SUPPORT IS GOING TO COME 
FROM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF 
WEEKS?
>> AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND 
OF CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE 
HAVING, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE 
ACTUALLY HAVE LOST JOBS, 
ESPECIALLY IN LOWER-INCOME JOBS 
LIKE THE RETAIL AND SERVICE 
INDUSTRY.
OR THEY ARE ALSO DOING THE 
CALCULATION OF HOW SAFE IS IT TO
RETURN TO WORK AND HOW MUCH MORE
MONEY WILL I ACTUALLY GET BY 
GOING BACK INTO THIS POTENTIALLY
DANGEROUS SITUATION WHEN I'M 
SAFE AND SECURE AT HOME, I DON'T
HAVE A LOT, BUT I HAVE ENOUGH.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, SO THAT'S 
SOMETHING THAT THE CONSERVATIVES
HAVE BROUGHT UP AS POTENTIAL 
DISINCENTIVE FOR RETURNING TO 
WORK.
WOULD YOU AGREE THAT IT IS A 
DISINCENTIVE OR THAT IT IS A 
MEASURE NEEDED TO PROTECT 
CANADIANS?
>> I DON'T THINK DISINCENTIVE IS
THE WORD THAT I WOULD USE.
I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT 
SHINES A LIGHT ON THE FACT THAT 
THERE ARE A LOT OF POORLY PAID 
JOBS OUT THERE AND THAT 
EMPLOYERS HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY
WITH PAYING SO LITTLE THAT 
SOMEBODY WOULD CONSIDER STAYING 
HOME FOR $24,000 A YEAR.
I HAVE HEARD THE RUMBLINGS ABOUT
MISUSE, THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE 
PARTYING WITH THE MONEY, BUT I 
DON'T PUT A LOT OF CREDENCE AND 
WORRY AROUND THAT BECAUSE THE 
MONEY FOR SOME PEOPLE WAS A 
WINDFALL.
IT'S NOT MONEY THAT THEY COULD 
EXPECT TO HAVE OVER THE LONG 
TERM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE 
WINNING THE LOTTERY.
YES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ENJOY 
IT.
I THINK IT OPENS UP BIGGER 
QUESTIONS FOR US TO THINK 
THROUGH ABOUT HOW -- WHAT INCOME
SECURITY WE CAN OFFER TO 
CANADIANS, WHETHER SOMETHING 
LIKE A BASIC INCOME, WHERE YOU 
CAN ACTUALLY PLAN OVER A LONG 
TERM, GO BACK TO SCHOOL, GET 
HOUSING.
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I 
WANT US TO THINK THROUGH.
>> Rosemary: SURE, AND CERTAINLY
THAT CONVERSATION HAS STARTED 
BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WILL 
TURN INTO MORE.
I'LL MAYBE JUST LEAVE IT ON 
THIS.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THE 
GOVERNMENT TO DO MOVING FORWARD,
THEN, IF PEOPLE HAVE COME TO THE
END OF THEIR 16 WEEKS OF CERB, 
WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD MAKE 
SENSE FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND WHAT 
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE 
GOVERNMENT DO?
>> THIS HAS BEEN A HEARTENING 
TIME IN SOME WAYS FOR THOSE OF 
US THAT WATCH THE GOVERNMENT 
CLOSELY, LOOKING AT HOW NIMBLY 
THEY ARE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT.
I HOPE THEY CONTINUE WITH THAT 
TREND AND THEY PICK UP THESE 
BIGGER POLICY QUESTIONS AROUND 
LOOKING AT WHAT IS A BASIC 
LIVING WAGE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO 
SURVIVE ON, WHAT IS BASIC INCOME
LOOK LIKE.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 
WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO BE 
STEPPING OUT ON SOON.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, DIANE DYSON, 
DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND PUBLIC 
POLICY FOR THE NEIGHBOURHOOD 
GROUP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NICE TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
>> GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.
THANKS, ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: THANKS.
I WILL BRING BACK MY COLLEAGUES 
HERE IN OTTAWA, CATHERINE AND 
VASSY.
MAYBE I'LL JUST ASK THE CONTROL 
ROOM IF WE COULD CUE UP THE 
VIDEO OF CHIEF ADAM THAST 
RELEASED LAST NIGHT AND SHOW 
VIEWERS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IF 
YOU MISSED IT.
THIS IS NOW SUBJECT OF A LAWSUIT
THAT CHIEF ADAM HAS LAUNCHED 
AGAINST THE RCMP.
THE RCMP CONTEND THAT CHIEF ADAM
WAS RESISTING ARREST, AND 
CERTAINLY CHIEF ADAM'S LAWYER 
WAS PUSHING THE RCMP AND THE 
COURTS TO RELEASE THIS VIDEO.
THERE IT IS ON THE LEFT-HAND 
SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
SO THAT'S CHIEF ADAM THERE ON 
THE RIGHT.
I WILL WARN YOU, IT IS 
DISTURBING TO WATCH.
KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU ARE 
WATCHING.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
. 
>> Rosemary: THIS IS JUST A 
MINUTE AND A HALF OF THE 
12-MINUTE VIDEO OF THE DASH CAM 
THAT WAS RELEASED.
CHIEF ADAM WAS AT THE CASINO, AS
YOU CAN SEE THERE, IN FORT 
McMURRAY WITH HIS WIFE.
AND AT THIS POINT THERE'S JUST 
ONE RCMP OFFICER INVOLVED.
>> HEY, LEAVE MY WIFE ALONE!
>> Rosemary: THE RCMP PULLED HIM
OVER BECAUSE THEY SAID THERE 
WERE EXPIRED LICENCE PLATES.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE 
SITUATION ESCALATES PRETTY 
QUICKLY IN TERMS OF THE YELLING 
AND THE BACK AND FORTH.
[SIRENS]
>> Rosemary: AT ONE POINT DURING
THE VIDEO A SECOND RCMP ARRIVES.
AND THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE 
VIDEO HERE THAT IS VERY 
DISTURBING TO WATCH, OBVIOUSLY, 
BUT ALSO VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR 
THE RCMP AND IS REALLY THE 
SUBJECT OF THE LAWSUIT, THE 
SUGGESTION, OF COURSE, THAT THE 
RCMP IS USING UNDUE FORCE TO 
DEAL WITH CHIEF ADAM WHO THEY 
SAY WAS RESISTING ARREST.
AND AS I SAID, THERE IS NOW 
GOING TO BE AN EXTERNAL 
INVESTIGATION INTO THIS VIDEO.
MAYBE I COULD ALSO ASK THE 
CONTROL ROOM TO PULL UP THE CLIP
ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT 
WHERE I ASKED BRENDA LUCKI ABOUT
THE INVESTIGATION, WHETHER SHE 
THOUGHT THIS WAS REASONABLE.
THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER OF
THE RCMP TOLD ME A COUPLE OF 
DAYS AGO.
>> I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEING 
INVESTIGATED, BUT THE RCMP ALSO 
SAID THAT THEY REVIEWED THE 
ACTIONS OF THEIR MEMBERS IN 
ALBERTA.
THEY FOUND THEM REASONABLE.
DO YOU THINK FOR ANYONE TO END 
UP LOOKING LIKE THAT AFTER AN 
INTERVENTION WITH POLICE IS 
REASONABLE?
>> THERE'S ALWAYS A SET OF 
CIRCUMSTANCES, AND DEPENDING ON 
THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE LEVEL 
OF RESISTANCE, SOMETIMES THERE 
ARE INTERVENTION ACTIONS THAT 
NEED TO BE TAKEN.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEVER WANT TO SEE 
ANYBODY GET HURT WHEN WE'RE 
DEALING WITH ANYBODY IN ANY 
INCIDENT, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.
>> Rosemary: ALL RIGHT, SO THAT 
SORT OF BRINGS YOU UP TO SPEED 
IF YOU HADN'T SEEN THAT 
DISTURBING VIDEO.
AGAIN, I TOTALLY RECOGNIZE THAT 
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN VERY 
DIFFICULT TO WATCH, OF THE 
ARREST OF THE CHIEF OF THE 
ATHABASCA CHIPEWYAN FIRST 
NATION, CHIEF ADAM, AND THAT THE
COMMISSIONER'S RESPONSE TO THAT 
SPECIFIC INCIDENT AND TO WHETHER
SHE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A 
REASONABLE RESPONSE TO WHAT WAS 
HAPPENING THERE WITH CHIEF ADAM.
I'LL BRING BACK VASSY AND 
CATHERINE KNOWING THE PRIME 
MINISTER IS GOING TO EMERGE VERY
SHORTLY.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE EXPECTING 
CERTAINLY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, 
VASSY, AS WELL AS -- YOU KNOW, 
AS WELL AS THE PROBLEMS 
OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN THE RCMP'S 
INABILITY, I GUESS WOULD BE THE 
BEST WAY TO SAY IT, INABILITY TO
DEFINE SYSTEMIC RACISM, ACCEPT 
SYSTEMIC RACISM, OR HOWEVER YOU 
WANT TO PHRASE IT, THAT THE 
FURTHEST I BELIEVE THE 
COMMISSIONER WENT WAS TO SAY 
THERE WAS UNCONSCIOUS BIAS 
WITHIN THE RCMP.
AND THE PRIME MINISTER'S 
ASSERTION THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM 
EXISTS EVERYWHERE, THAT THAT IS 
THE NATURE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM, 
THAT IT IS BUILT INTO SOCIETY TO
PERHAPS PRIVILEGE SOME PEOPLE 
AND TO DISADVANTAGE OTHER PEOPLE
IN THE POPULATION.
AS WELL AS THAT CLASH, THOUGH, 
THERE'S THE ACTUAL VIDEO THAT HE
HAS NOT RESPONDED TO.
>> Vassy: YEAH, AND I MEAN, THE 
INITIAL PICTURES HE SAID I 
BELIEVE HE USED THE WORDS DEEPLY
ALARMING, BUT NOW HE'S WATCHED 
THE VIDEO, AND AS I SAID, 
EXPECTED TO ADDRESS IT.
I THINK THIS VIDEO ALMOST 
PUNCTUATES THE POINT YOU'RE 
MAKING, THIS INABILITY TO 
ACKNOWLEDGE ON THE PART OF THE 
COMMISSIONER THAT IT DOES EXIST,
AND SYSTEMIC RACISM IS DIFFERENT
THAN UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, AND THE 
NEED TO REFORM OR THE DESIRE TO 
SEE REFORM SO THAT STUFF LIKE 
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
I MEAN, THE PRIME MINISTER 
YESTERDAY SAID IT DOES EXIST, 
IT'S HARD TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN 
YOU'RE IN A POSITION OF 
AUTHORITY OR WHEN YOU WORK 
WITHIN THE SYSTEM, BUT I THINK 
LIKE CATHERINE SAID, THERE'S 
FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS TO ALL OF 
THAT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
YOU KNOW, I HAD NATIONAL CHIEF 
PERRY BELLEGARDE OF THE AFN ON 
OUR SHOW LAST EVENING.
I SAID -- I ASKED HIM IF 
COMMISSIONER LUCKI CAN CONDUCT 
REFORM OR INSTIGATE REFORM IN 
THE RCMP THAT SO MANY ASSERT IS 
NECESSARY IF SHE DOESN'T 
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE -- THAT 
SYSTEMIC RACISM EXISTS OR WON'T 
SAY THAT IT DOES.
AND HE SAID HE'S WILLING TO WORK
WITH HER AND THAT THERE SHOULD 
BE A DIALOGUE, BUT CERTAINLY DID
ASSERT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU 
CAN'T SAY THERE'S A PROBLEM, HOW
DO YOU -- IF YOU CAN'T 
ARTICULATE THE PROBLEM, HOW DO 
YOU ADEQUATELY FIX IT, AND THOSE
ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE PRIME 
MINISTER TOO, RIGHT?
I MEAN, HIS GOVERNMENT OVERSEES 
THE RCMP, THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC
SAFETY DOES.
THEY ARE DEEPLY ALARMED, SO WHAT
ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, OBVIOUSLY, 
THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN 
INVESTIGATION GOING, ASIRT IS 
INVESTIGATING.
IT'S BEFORE THE COURTS.
CHIEF ADAM HAS ACTUALLY BEEN 
CHARGED BY THE RCMP AND IS 
SUPPOSED TO APPEAR IN COURT ON 
JULY 2.
THERE'S COMPLICATING FACTORS 
CERTAINLY, BUT IT PUNCTUATES A 
DISCUSSION THAT HAS BEEN 
HAPPENING SOUTH OF THE BORDER 
BUT ALSO HERE.
>> Rosemary: GO AHEAD, 
CATHERINE.
>> Catherine: I WAS GOING TO SAY
I THINK IT ALSO RAISES AN 
INTERESTING POINT VIS-À-VIS THIS
DISCUSSION ABOUT BODY CAMERAS 
BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION.
THE VIDEO THAT'S BEING RELEASED 
THERE IS RCMP DASHBOARD CAMERA.
YES THERE IS SOME ARGUMENT THAT 
THIS TYPE OF LET'S CALL IT 
SURVEILLANCE OF THE POLICE WILL 
ACT AS A DETERRENT, BUT THIS 
VIDEO SHOWS THE FACT THAT 
SOMETHING IS BEING RECORDED, AND
WE KNOW FROM NUMEROUS EXAMPLES 
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTAINLY 
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER 
RIGHT NOW IS CLEARLY NOT ALWAYS 
A DETERRENT, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO ASK IF WE ARE TALKING 
ABOUT ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN 
POLICING IN ORDER TO TRY TO 
LIMIT, STOP THESE KINDS OF 
INCIDENTS, IS THIS REALLY THE 
BEST WAY TO SPEND THAT MONEY?
SHOULD THAT MONEY EVEN BE 
INVESTED IN POLICE FORCES AS WE 
HAVE THIS BROADER DISCUSSION 
ABOUT DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND 
PERHAPS PUTTING MORE SERVICES IN
THE HANDS OF ORGANIZATIONS 
OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE, YOU KNOW,
THE PRIME MINISTER, A LOT OF THE
DISCUSSION AS I SAID A MOMENT 
AGO IS ABOUT, OKAY, IS EVERYBODY
ON BOARD, WHERE DOES THE MONEY 
COME FROM.
BUT THERE'S A DISCUSSION TOO 
ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT 
MEASURE. 
>> Rosemary: YEAH, AND I THINK 
VASSY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
YOU HAVE TO NAME SOMETHING IN 
ORDER TO START DEALING WITH IT.
HERE'S THE PRIME MINISTER OF 
CANADA.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES MEMBERS TO
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES IN 
QUEBEC ARE MEN AND WOMEN IN 
UNIFORM ARE DOING AN INCREDIBLE 
JOB AND SAVING LIVES.
SINCE THE END OF APRIL, THE 
SITUATION IN A NUMBER OF THOSE 
FACILITIES HAS STABILIZED.
AND SUPPORT WORKERS ARE NOW 
RETURNING TO WORK.
THAT MEANS THAT MEMBERS OF THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES THAT HAVE 
BEEN DEPLOYED TO A FACILITY 
WHERE THINGS HAVE IMPROVED CAN 
NOW GO AND HELP OUT IN OTHER 
CENTRES WHERE THE SITUATION IS 
MORE CRITICAL.
THIS HAS ALLOWED US TO HELP MORE
THAN 35 LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES THUS FAR, AND WE 
CONTINUE TO REDEPLOY MEMBERS OF 
THE C.A.F. FROM CENTRES THAT ARE
UNDER CONTROL TO THOSE THAT ARE 
IN NEED.
WE ARE, THEREFORE, EXTENDING THE
CURRENT MISSION OF THE ARMED 
FORCES IN QUEBEC UNTIL JUNE 26.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE 1400 
MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES 
INVOLVED IN OPERATION LASER ARE 
STILL IN QUEBEC AND ARE NOW 
BEING REDEPLOYED TO FACILITIES 
THAT NEED THEIR HELP.
WE ARE CONTINUING OUR 
DISCUSSIONS WITH QUEBEC WITH A 
VIEW TO DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR 
THE MEDIUM TERM THAT WILL ALLOW 
US TO SUPPORT THOSE EFFORTS 
UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15.
THAT PLAN INCLUDES THE ACTIVE 
PARTICIPATION OF THE RED CROSS 
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE PAID, 
PROPERLY TRAINED AND WHO WILL BE
AS EFFICIENT AS MEMBERS OF THE 
ARMED FORCES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL 
CONTINUE TO BE THERE FOR 
QUEBECERS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, OUR 
GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH
THE PROVINCES ON PROVIDING CARE 
FOR SENIORS AND THE MOST 
VULNERABLE.
THIS INCLUDES BY DEPLOYING 
MEMBERS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED 
FORCES TO CERTAIN LONG-TERM CARE
FACILITIES.
IN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC WE ARE 
EXTENDING THIS DEPLOYMENT TO 
JUNE 26.
OUR WOMEN AND MEN IN UNIFORM ARE
DOING A REMARKABLE JOB.
THEIR HELP IS STILL NEEDED, SO 
WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT OUR 
ELDERS CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS 
VITAL SUPPORT.
TO RE-START THE ECONOMY, TO GET 
CANADIANS BACK ON THEIR FEET, WE
NEED A COORDINATED COUNTRY-WIDE 
PLAN, AND AT THE HEART OF THIS 
APPROACH MUST BE HOW WE DO THIS 
SAFELY.
IN COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY, STATE 
AFTER STATE, A PATTERN IS 
EMERGING.
PEOPLE MAKE SACRIFICES NEEDED TO
FLATTEN THE CURVE, BUT THEN WHEN
GOVERNMENTS DECIDE TO RE-START 
THE ECONOMY, CASES BEGIN TO RISE
AGAIN.
AND AFTER MONTHS OF HARD WORK, 
PEOPLE ARE FINDING THEMSELVES 
RIGHT BACK WHERE THEY STARTED.
CANADA MUST LEARN FROM THESE 
LESSONS.
IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE 
SAFETY AND CONTROL OF THIS VIRUS
A TOP PRIORITY IN THIS RE-START.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE 
DOING.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS WORKING WITH 
THE PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO
BRING IN THE RIGHT MEASURES TO 
KEEP CANADIANS SAFE AND HEALTHY.
LAST WEEK I PUT FORWARD OUR 
GOVERNMENT'S COMMITMENT, $14 
BILLION, TOWARDS A SAFE RE-START
AGREEMENT FOR THE THINGS THAT 
CANADIANS WILL NEED IN THE SIX 
MONTHS AHEAD.
AT OUR FIRST MINISTERS MEETING 
YESTERDAY, THE PREMIERS, THE 
DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND I 
CONTINUED OUR DISCUSSION ON WHAT
THIS PLAN MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE MEASURES 
NEEDED, WHETHER THAT'S CHILD 
CARE AND PAID SICK LEAVE, 
CONTACT TRACING AND TESTING, OR 
P.P.E. AND SUPPORT FOR THE MOST 
VULNERABLE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT 
THAT WE MUST KEEP WORKING 
TOGETHER TO SUPPORT CANADIANS 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
LAST EVENING THE PREMIERS AND 
MYSELF ALSO TALKED ABOUT MEDIA 
REPORTS AND VIDEOS THAT ARE 
CIRCULATING RIGHT NOW AND THAT 
SHOW VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK 
CANADIANS AND INDIGENOUS 
CANADIANS.
DURING OUR DISCUSSION, I TALKED 
ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT MUST BE 
MADE TO OUR POLICE FORCES, SUCH 
AS WEARING VIDEO CAMERAS.
ALL ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT MUST 
WORK TOGETHER SO THAT THINGS CAN
CHANGE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
WE HAVE ALL NOW SEEN THE 
SHOCKING VIDEO OF CHIEF ADAM'S 
ARREST, AND WE MUST GET TO THE 
BOTTOM OF THIS.
LIKE MANY PEOPLE, I HAVE SERIOUS
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION 
MUST BE TRANSPARENT AND BE 
CARRIED OUT SO THAT WE GET 
ANSWERS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH, WE 
ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT AN 
ISOLATED INCIDENT.
FAR TOO MANY BLACK CANADIANS AND
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL 
SAFE AROUND POLICE.
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE, AND AS 
GOVERNMENTS, WE HAVE TO CHANGE 
THAT.
IN MY DISCUSSION WITH THE 
PREMIERS YESTERDAY EVENING, I 
BROUGHT THIS UP.
ALL LEADERS WERE UNITED IN 
CONDEMNING RACISM AND IN 
AGREEING THAT WE MUST DO MORE TO
COMBAT IT.
I RAISED WITH THEM SOME OF THE 
WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER MOVING
FORWARD, INCLUDING ON PRACTICAL 
THINGS, LIKE THE ADOPTION OF 
BODY CAMERAS.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE ALREADY 
DISCUSSED WITH RCMP COMMISSIONER
LUCKI, BUT REFORMS ARE NEEDED AT
ALL LEVELS OF POLICING, AND 
THESE REFORMS NEED TO HAPPEN 
QUICKLY.
IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS TO COME, 
OUR GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE TO 
MOVE AS FAST AS WE CAN WITH ALL 
OF OUR PARTNERS.
WOMEN AND MEN WHO SERVE IN OUR 
POLICE FORCES MUST BE PART OF 
THE SOLUTION.
THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STEPPED
UP TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY, AND
THEY WILL BE INVALUABLE ALLIES 
AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE 
THAT ALL CANADIANS ARE WELL 
SERVED BY THESE INSTITUTIONS.
TODAY I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING ON 
TRAVEL AND ON OUR WORK TO KEEP 
CANADIANS SAFE.
RIGHT NOW PHYSICAL DISTANCING IS
STILL THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT 
YOURSELF AND OTHERS.
OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME PLACES,
LIKE ON FLIGHTS, WHERE IT'S NOT 
ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO KEEP TWO 
METRES APART.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'VE MADE IT
MANDATORY FOR TRAVELLERS AND 
STAFF TO WEAR MASKS.
WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH AIRLINES 
AND AIRPORTS ON STANDARDS THEY 
SHOULD HAVE IN PLACE, WHETHER 
THAT'S ENHANCED CLEANING OR 
PUTTING DISTANCING MEASURES AS 
PEOPLE WAIT IN LINE.
AND TODAY I CAN ANNOUNCE THAT 
WE'RE TAKING ANOTHER STEP 
FORWARD.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS MANDATING 
TEMPERATURE SCREENING FOR AIR 
PASSENGERS IN A PHASED APPROACH.
FIRST FOR THOSE TRAVELLING TO 
CANADA, THEN FOR THOSE 
TRAVELLING FROM CANADA, AND 
FINALLY FOR THOSE TRAVELLING 
WITHIN CANADA.
A PASSENGER WHO HAS A FEVER WILL
NOT BE PERMITTED TO BOARD THEIR 
FLIGHT.
EMPLOYEES IN THE SECURED AREAS 
OF AIRPORTS WILL ALSO BE 
REQUIRED TO HAVE THEIR 
TEMPERATURE CHECK.
THERE ARE STRONG MEASURES 
ALREADY IN PLACE TO KEEP PEOPLE 
SAFE, AND THIS SCREENING WILL 
ADD YET ANOTHER LAYER OF 
PROTECTION.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS NOTED NEW 
BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE 
CURRENTLY IN EFFECT ELSEWHERE IN
THE WORLD TO PROTECT PEOPLE.
THAT IS WHY TODAY I AM 
ANNOUNCING THAT WE WILL BE 
MAKING TEMPERATURE SCREENING 
MANDATORY FOR AIR TRAVELLERS AS 
WELL AS FOR STAFF AND EMPLOYEES.
I KNOW THAT MINISTER GARNEAU 
WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT
LATER TODAY.
IN THE COMING WEEKS AND THE 
COMING MONTHS WE WILL CONTINUE 
TO EXPLORE OTHER WAYS OF 
PROTECTING CANADIANS AND 
LIMITING THE SPREAD OF THIS 
VIRUS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IN 
EVERY CITY AND TOWN, CANADIANS 
ARE STEPPING UP TO HELP.
IF YOU WANT A GREAT EXAMPLE, 
LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE 
FILIPINO-CANADIAN COMMUNITY.
IN SURREY, THE COMMUNITY SET UP 
A BLOOD DONATION DRIVE AS THEIR 
WAY TO PITCH IN.
IN CALGARY, AN ORGANIZATION 
CALLED "FIESTA FILIPINOS" IS 
RAISING MONEY FOR CARE PACKAGES 
FOR FAMILIES.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
IN MONTREAL, THE FILIPINO 
COMMUNITY HAS SET UP A FOOD 
PROGRAM TO DELIVER FOOD TO THE 
ELDERLY WHO LIVE ALONE OR WHO 
ARE IN CONFINEMENT.
TODAY, ON THIS DAY OF PHILIPPINE
INDEPENDENCE, WE ARE RECOGNIZING
ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY 
THE FILIPINO COMMUNITY IN 
CANADA.
IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO 
DENOUNCE THE OBSTACLES PLACED IN
FRONT OF THE MEMBERS OF THAT 
COMMUNITY.
[ End of Interpretation ]
-- HERITAGE MONTH, WE CAN'T 
IGNORE THE WAYS IN WHICH OUR 
COUNTRY MUST DO BETTER.
TOO MANY MEMBERS OF THIS 
COMMUNITY FACE DISCRIMINATION, 
SOMETHING THAT HAS GOTTEN WORSE 
BECAUSE OF THIS PANDEMIC.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS 
COUNTRY FOR RACISM AGAINST ASIAN
CANADIANS OR ANYBODY ELSE.
NOW MORE THAN EVER WE NEED TO 
STAND UP AGAINST DISCRIMINATION 
AND INJUSTICE IN ALL ITS FORMS.
AS CANADIANS WE ARE ALWAYS 
STRONGER TOGETHER.
MERCI.
>> THANK YOU, PRIME MINISTER.
WE'LL NOW GO TO THE PHONE FOR 
QUESTIONS.
ONE QUESTION, ONE FOLLOW-UP.
OPERATOR?
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[No Interpretation]
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: THANK YOU, GOOD 
MORNING, PRIME MINISTER.
WITH RESPECT TO THE MILITARY IN 
THE SENIORS HOMES, YOU'RE SAYING
IT'S NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, 
BUT WHY NOT SEND -- LEAVE THOSE 
SOLDIERS IN THE HOMES UNTIL THE 
MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER AS PREMIER 
LEGAULT HAS BEEN ASKING?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
WE SENT THE ARMY INTO THOSE 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES BECAUSE 
THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY.
THERE WAS NO CONTROL OF THE 
PANDEMIC WITHIN THOSE LONG-TERM 
CARE HOMES, AND IN THE LAST TWO 
MONTHS WE HAVE SEEN A MARKED 
IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE WAY 
THOSE FACILITIES ARE OPERATING, 
AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE RETURN 
OF SUPPORT WORKERS, AND THAT IS 
THANKS TO THE WORK DONE BY THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES MEMBERS.
NOW WE KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH IT 
IS NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, 
THEY WERE ABLE TO INTRODUCE 
MEASURES AND PROTOCOLS AND TAKE 
STEPS THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE
MEDIUM TO LONG TERM.
WITH RESPECT TO CANADIAN STAFF, 
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH 
THE CANADIAN RED CROSS IN ORDER 
TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL PAID
AND PROPERLY TRAINED THAT CAN 
TAKE OVER FROM THE C.A.F. 
MEMBERS SO THAT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 
15 CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO BE 
THERE TO HELP IN THOSE HOMES.
THIS IS A REASONABLE APPROACH 
THAT IS FOCUSED ON NEEDS ON THE 
GROUND, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY 
WORKING ON THAT PLAN WITH THE 
GOVERNMENT OF QUEBEC.
>> FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: MR. LEGAULT 
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WAS SAYING 
WE NEED A THOUSAND SOLDIERS.
YOU SAY NO, IT'S MISSION 
ACCOMPLISHED, QUEBEC DOESN'T 
NEED THOSE SOLDIERS ANYMORE?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: NO, 
ON THE CONTRARY.
THE MISSION IS NOT ACCOMPLISHED 
BY ANY MEANS, AND AS LONG AS 
THERE ARE CHALLENGES THERE, THE 
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA WILL BE 
HELPING OUT IN LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES.
BUT THE THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT 
COULD HELP OUT WERE SOLDIERS IN 
THE MIDST OF A REAL EMERGENCY, 
BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE MEMBERS OF 
THE CANADIAN RED CROSS WHO ARE 
WELL PAID AND PROPERLY TRAINED 
AND WHO CAN TAKE OVER FROM THE 
C.A.F. MEMBERS WITHOUT HAVING 
THAT MILITARY BACKGROUND THAT 
REALLY ISN'T NECESSARY IN TERMS 
OF THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED 
IN THOSE HOMES.
BUT AS I SAID, WE WILL CONTINUE 
TO BE THERE AS A FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT QUEBEC AND
HELP IT REGAIN CONTROL OF THE 
SITUATION IN THOSE FACILITIES.
[ End of Interpretation ]
AS I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, WE
WERE GOING TO BE THERE AND WE 
ARE THERE TO HELP OUT OUR 
SENIORS IN THE LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES IN QUEBEC.
FROM THE BEGINNING THEY WERE 
THERE TO STABILIZE THE 
SITUATION, TO SET IN PLACE 
PROTOCOLS AND MEASURES THAT WERE
NECESSARY WHILE THE SITUATION 
WAS OUT OF CONTROL.
BUT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF 
MONTHS, THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK 
DONE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES HAS MADE A
HUGE DIFFERENCE, AND MANY 
FACILITIES HAVE GONE FROM 
CONDITION RED TO CONDITION 
GREEN.
WE WILL CONTINUE AS A FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THAT OUR 
CONCERNS IN QUEBEC ARE 
PROTECTED.
WE ARE PROPOSING AND WORKING 
WITH THE PROVINCE OF QUEBEC TO 
PROGRESSIVELY REPLACE THOSE 
MILITARY MEMBERS WITH TRAINED 
PEOPLE FROM THE CANADIAN RED 
CROSS WHO WILL BE PAID, WHO WILL
BE PROPERLY TRAINED, TO BE ABLE 
TO CONTINUE THE IMPORTANT WORK 
BEING DONE WHILE QUEBEC WORKS TO
GET ITS SYSTEM BACK UNDER 
CONTROL.
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION?
>> Operator: THANK YOU, MERCI.
NEXT QUESTION, LINEA DIB, LA 
PRESSE CANADIAN.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING, 
MR. TRUDEAU.
SORRY THAT I'M KIND OF FOCUSING 
ON THIS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND 
WHAT WOULD PREVENT THE MILITARY 
FROM REMAINING IN THOSE 
FACILITIES.
IF THAT'S MR. LEGAULT'S 
EVALUATION OF THE NEED.
HE FEELS HE NEEDS THEM NOW, AND 
HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND, SO WHAT 
BETTER CAN THEY BE DOING 
ELSEWHERE, THOSE MILITARY 
PERSONNEL?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT 
QUEBECERS AND TO PROTECT ALL 
CANADIANS.
THEY HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB
IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND THEY
CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE 
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES, AND 
IN FACT IN A NUMBER OF THOSE 
FACILITIES THEY HAVE GREATLY 
IMPROVED THE SITUATION, AND NOW 
THEY CAN MOVE TO OTHER HOMES OR 
OTHER FACILITIES.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE 
MILITARY CANNOT REPRESENT A 
SOLUTION OVER THE MEDIUM OR LONG
TERM, AND THAT'S WHY OVER THE 
NEXT LITTLE WHILE WE WILL BE 
REPLACING THEM WITH MEMBERS OF 
THE CANADIAN RED CROSS THAT WILL
BE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING 
AS THE MILITARY.
THEY WILL BE WELL TRAINED AND 
PROPERLY PAID, AND THAT WILL 
ENSURE THAT QUEBECERS CAN REMAIN
HEALTHY AND HAVE THE SUPPORT 
THEY NEED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15 AND
BEYOND THAT, IF THERE IS A NEED.
>> FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: YES, WELL, THAT 
DOESN'T REALLY ANSWER MY 
QUESTION.
NOW THE RED CROSS, WHAT WOULD 
PREVENT THE RED CROSS FROM 
ALREADY BEING READY TO GO IN?
MR. LEGAULT IS SAYING THERE ARE 
ONLY 400 SOLDIERS SERVING IN 
THOSE FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.
HE WANTS A THOUSAND.
SO WHAT IS DELAYING THE 
DEPLOYMENT OF CANADIAN RED CROSS
MEMBERS TO THOSE FACILITIES?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
FIRST OF ALL, LINA, I WANT TO 
POINT OUT THAT WE DID, IN FACT, 
SEND 1400 SOLDIERS INTO THESE 
FACILITIES IN QUEBEC UNDER 
OPERATION LASER.
THOSE SOLDIERS ARE STILL 
DEPLOYED IN QUEBEC UNDER 
OPERATION LASER.
BUT AS I SAID, AS CERTAIN 
FACILITIES ARE REGAINING CONTROL
OF THE SITUATION, THOSE MILITARY
PERSONNEL CAN BE SENT ELSEWHERE,
AND THEY ARE BEING RE-DEPLOYED 
TO OTHER HOMES, BUT OF COURSE 
THAT REQUIRES THE PROPER 
ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION, AND
THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE 
SOMEWHAT FLUCTUATING NOW.
NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE CANADIAN
RED CROSS, WE ARE CURRENTLY 
WORKING WITH THE RED CROSS, BUT 
ALSO WITH THE QUEBEC GOVERNMENT 
TO DEVELOP THE PLAN THAT WILL 
ALLOW US TO DEPLOY THEM TO THOSE
FACILITIES IN THE COMING WEEKS.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION, OPERATOR?
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
NEXT QUESTION, THERESA WRIGHT, 
THE CANADIAN PRESS.
LINE OPEN.
>> Reporter: YES, GOOD MORNING, 
PRIME MINISTER.
I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE 
VIDEO OF THE ARREST OF CHIEF 
ALLAN ADAM.
THE RCMP SAID THE TREATMENT OF 
CHIEF ADAM WAS REASONABLE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ALL THE 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOW SEEN THIS 
VIDEO? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK EVERYONE WHO'S SEEN THIS 
VIDEO HAS SERIOUS QUESTIONS 
ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED, 
ABOUT HOW IT HAPPENED THIS WAY, 
AND ABOUT THAT USE OF FORCE THAT
WE SAW.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING FOR AN 
INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT 
INVESTIGATION THAT WILL GET THE 
ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT SO
MANY PEOPLE ARE ASKING RIGHT 
NOW.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
I THINK EVERYONE WHO HAS SEEN 
THAT VIDEO HAS SERIOUS QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED, AND THAT'S 
WHY WE ARE CALLING FOR AN 
INDEPENDENT AND TRANSPARENT 
INQUIRY THAT WILL GIVE US THE 
ANSWERS WE'RE SEEKING AS TO HOW 
THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> FOLLOW-UP, THERESA?
>> Reporter: YES, THANK YOU.
ON ANOTHER TOPIC, YOU'VE BEEN 
PROMISING TO END THE BLOOD 
DONATION BAN ON MEN WHO HAVE SEX
WITH MEN AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE 
SINCE 2015.
WHY HAVE YOU NOT KEPT THIS 
PROMISE?
>> OUR DECISIONS FROM THE VERY 
BEGINNING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN 
ANCHORED IN SCIENCE AND DATA.
FROM THE VERY START WHEN WE TOOK
OFFICE WE MADE SIGNIFICANT 
CHANGES TO SHORTEN THE WAIT 
TIMES, BUT THEY WERE STILL 
UNACCEPTABLE.
THAT'S WHY WE GAVE FUNDING TO 
CANADIAN BLOOD SERVICES AND 
HEMA-QUEBEC TO DO THE STUDIES 
NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN
THE NEW PROTOCOLS, AND WE ARE 
VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE 
ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS AND
THE CHANGE VERY SOON.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WE 
RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO 
CHANGE THE CURRENT PROTOCOLS TO 
ALLOW FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE BLOOD
DONATIONS, AND THAT'S WHY WE 
INVESTED IN HEMA-QUEBEC AND 
CANADIAN BLOOD SERVICES.
WE GAVE THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
SO THAT THEY COULD DO SOME 
RESEARCH AND DO THE NECESSARY 
STUDIES TO BASE FURTHER 
DECISIONS ON SCIENCE.
AND WE DO HOPE WE CAN HAVE SOME 
GOOD THINGS TO ANNOUNCE VERY 
SOON.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> THANK YOU.
WE WILL TAKE ONE MORE CALL ON 
THE LINE.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
NEXT QUESTION, "NATIONAL POST".
LINE OPEN.
>> Reporter: SIR, I WANTED TO 
ASK YOU A FOLLOW-UP OBJECT THE 
CHIEF ALLAN VIDEO.
GIVEN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, GIVEN 
THE FACT THAT THE SUPERIOR 
OFFICERS THERE DECIDED INITIALLY
THAT THERE WAS NO PROBLEM, THE 
FORCE WASN'T EXCESSIVE, DO YOU 
THINK THAT'S PART OF THE 
SYSTEMIC RACISM ISSUE YOU'VE 
SEEN IN THE RCMP AND ARE YOU 
CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT SAYS 
ABOUT HOW THE RCMP SENIOR 
OFFICERS VIEW FORCE? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK WE'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF 
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION, OF 
SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE PAST DAYS
IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT
SERIOUSLY.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED BOTH A CLEAR,
INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT 
INVESTIGATIONS IN THE CASES 
BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT IT'S ALSO 
WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE 
ENTIRE SYSTEM TO IMPROVE IT, TO 
MAKE SURE THAT SITUATIONS LIKE 
THIS DON'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE 
AND THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHO
ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND SERVE 
ALL CANADIANS ARE ABLE TO DO
THAT FOR ALL CANADIANS.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
I BELIEVE THE INCIDENTS THAT WE 
HAVE SEEN RECENTLY CLEARLY POINT
TO THE NEED FOR A TRANSPARENT 
INQUIRY INTO THOSE INCIDENTS, 
BUT ALSO THAT WE NEED TO REFORM 
THE SYSTEM SO THAT ALL CANADIANS
ARE WELL SERVED BY THEIR POLICE 
FORCES.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> FOLLOW-UP, RYAN?
>> Reporter: YES, SIR, JUST ON 
ANOTHER ISSUE, AFTER THE BILL 
FAILED TO MOVE FORWARD WEDNESDAY
IN PARLIAMENT YOU SAID YOU'D 
CONTINUE WORKING ON IT, THAT YOU
WANTED TO GET THE PAYMENT OUT TO
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE MADE 
MORE NEGOTIATIONS, MAYBE CHANGED
SOME OF YOUR PREVIOUS STANCES TO
HELP MOVE THAT BILL FORWARD.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
ARE VERY HOPEFUL WE ARE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD TO 
DELIVER FOR PEOPLE WITH 
DISABILITIES ACROSS THIS 
COUNTRY.
WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE FACING 
EXTRA COSTS BECAUSE OF THIS 
PANDEMIC, AND THAT'S WHY WE 
MOVED FORWARD A BILL, AND WE 
EVEN OFFERED TO SEPARATE OUT 
THAT BILL SO JUST THAT MEASURE 
COULD BE MOVED FORWARD ON.
UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE SAW, OTHER 
PARTIES DID NOT WANT TO MOVE 
FORWARD, EVEN ON THAT ONE THING,
SO WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT WAYS OF 
PERHAPS BEING ABLE TO DELIVER 
THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO PASS 
THROUGH LEGISLATION, BUT IT WILL
BE MORE DIFFICULT AND MAY TAKE 
LONGER.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: RADIO-CANADA.
FIRST OF ALL, ON THE SUPREME 
COURT DECISION WITH RESPECT TO 
THE FRANCOPHONE SCHOOL BOARD IN 
BRITISH COLUMBIA, THE SUPREME 
WILL BE FORCING THE GOVERNMENT 
TO SUPPLY MONEY TO THE BOARD FOR
FRANCOPHONE SCHOOLS, BUT THE 
PROVINCE IS SAYING IT DOESN'T 
HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THOSE 
SCHOOLS.
CAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HELP 
THE PROVINCE?
WILL IT HELP THE PROVINCE IN 
ORDER TO SUPPORT LANGUAGE 
MINORITIES IN CANADA AND OUTSIDE
OF QUEBEC SO THAT THEY CAN 
RECEIVE QUALITY EDUCATION 
EVERYWHERE?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: OF 
COURSE AS A GOVERNMENT WE HAVE 
TAKEN MANY DIFFERENT MEASURES TO
PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN 
PROTECTIONS.
LANGUAGE, MINORITY LANGUAGE 
COMMUNITIES RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY.
AND THIS SUPREME COURT RULING IS
VERY GOOD NEWS FOR THOSE 
COMMUNITIES AND FOR OUR COUNTRY 
AS A WHOLE.
FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW THOSE 
COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN TELLING US
THAT THE PROVINCES ARE NOT 
ADEQUATELY FUNDING THE SERVICES 
THAT THEY DESERVE, AND WE HOPE 
THAT STARTING NOW THE PROVINCES 
WILL BETTER RESPECT THE NEEDS OF
THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND AS A 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE ARE 
ALWAYS OPEN TO BE THERE -- TO 
BEING THERE TO HELP, BUT WE ALSO
KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA OF 
JURISDICTION OF THE PROVINCES 
WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION.
[ End of Interpretation ]
-- SUPREME COURT DECISION IS 
GOOD NEWS FOR MINORITY LANGUAGE 
COMMUNITIES RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY WHO HAVE LONG FELT THAT 
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVING THE 
RIGHT LEVELS OF SERVICES FROM 
THEIR PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS.
AS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE'VE 
MOVED FORWARD IN MANY WAYS TO 
STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS AND 
SUPPORT MINORITY LANGUAGE 
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY,
BUT WE NOW HOPE THAT THE 
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS WILL STEP
UP FURTHER IN AREAS THAT ARE 
THEIR EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTIONS, 
LIKE EDUCATION AND CERTAIN 
SERVICES FOR MINORITY LANGUAGE 
COMMUNITIES.
AS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE WILL
ALWAYS STAND READY TO SUPPORT 
AND HELP MINORITY LANGUAGE 
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: NOW ON THE 
TEMPERATURE SCREENING FOR 
AIRLINE -- FOR AIR TRAVELLERS, 
DO YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL 
HAVE TROUBLE TRUSTING YOU ON 
THIS?
BECAUSE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING
YOU SAID THAT DIDN'T -- DOESN'T 
WORK.
YOU SAID MASKS DIDN'T WORK.
YOU SAID BORDER CLOSURES DIDN'T 
WORK, AND THEN YOU WENT BACK ON 
THOSE IDEAS.
SO IF IT REALLY DOES WORK, WHY 
DIDN'T YOU INTRODUCE IT EARLIER?
BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER 
THAT IT SIMPLY WOULDN'T WORK IN 
A PANDEMIC.
SO DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL 
BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT 
YOU NEED TO PUT THIS MEASURE IN 
PLACE NOW?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WELL,
MANY WEEKS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT 
THE IDEA OF TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING.
AND WE WERE TOLD AT THE TIME 
THAT THIS WAS NOT A PARTICULARLY
EFFECTIVE WAY OF DETECTING 
COVID-19.
BUT IT IS AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENT 
THAT CAN TELL US WHETHER SOMEONE
IS ILL OR TOO ILL TO TRAVEL, OR 
MAY HAVE COVID-19.
NOW CERTAINLY WE LOOKED AT THOSE
MEASURES WEEKS AGO, AND WE 
PRETTY MUCH PUT AN END TO 
INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL AT THE 
TIME.
SO WE REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO DO 
THAT.
BUT NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO 
REOPEN THE ECONOMY, WE'RE 
STARTING TO PERHAPS SEE PEOPLE, 
MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO CANADA 
IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE ARE 
LOOKING TO DO WHAT MANY OTHER 
COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN DOING, WHICH
IS TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL 
MEASURES.
NOW THIS DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT 
WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROTECT 
PEOPLE, BUT IT'S ANOTHER 
REASONABLE LEVEL OF PROTECTION 
THAT WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO 
ARE SICK NOT TO TRAVEL AND TO 
STAY HOME.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING.
BUT IT COULD ALSO BE AN 
ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF PROTECTION 
TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING 
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT 
CANADIANS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
WE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF 
THERMAL SCREENINGS FOR 
TRAVELLERS A NUMBER OF MONTHS 
AGO.
IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AT THAT POINT
AND STILL REMAINS THE CASE THAT 
IT IS NOT THE WAY OF DETECTING 
COVID-19 IN TRAVELLERS.
BUT IT IS AN ADDITIONAL MEASURE 
THAT CAN HIGHLIGHT SYMPTOMS OF 
COVID-19, CAN HIGHLIGHT IF 
SOMEONE IS ILL AND SHOULDN'T BE 
TRAVELLING AT ALL.
IT'S NOT THE PANACEA.
IT'S NOT 100% SOLUTION.
IT IS AN EXTRA LAYER OF SAFETY 
TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT 
FEEL SICK TO STAY HOME AND NOT 
TRAVEL AND PUT OTHERS AT RISK, 
AND IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH WHAT 
MANY OF OUR INTERNATIONAL 
PARTNERS ARE DOING AS WELL.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN 
ADDITIONAL MEASURE THAT CAN MAKE
A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT HAS TO BE 
INCLUDED WITH A SUITE OF 
MEASURES THAT WE'RE MOVING 
FORWARD WITH TO KEEP CANADIANS 
SAFE.
>> Reporter: BRIAN MULLEN, 
GLOBAL NEWS.
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OF THE 
EARLIER QUESTIONS, PRIME 
MINISTER.
WHEN A YOUNG MAN TOOK IT UPON 
HIMSELF TO FIGHT THE BLOOD BAN 
AT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, 
YOUR GOVERNMENT CHOSE TO FIGHT 
HIM IN FEDERAL COURT.
WILL YOU DROP THAT CASE?
AND CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT THE 
CHANGES YOU'RE PLANNING TO 
ANNOUNCE WILL MEAN AN 
ELIMINATION OF THE THREE-MONTH 
DEFERRAL?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
POLICY ON MSM BLOOD DONATIONS 
HAS LONG BEEN DISCRIMINATORY, 
BUT WE KNOW AND CANADA HAS 
LEARNED THROUGH STRONG 
UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCE THAT THE 
SAFETY OF OUR BLOOD SUPPLY IS 
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ANCHOR
IN SCIENCE, AND THAT'S WHY WHEN 
WE GOT ELECTED IN 2015, WITH A 
COMMITMENT TO END THE BLOOD 
DONATION BAN, WE HEARD THAT THE 
SCIENCE WAS NOT THERE TO BE ABLE
TO DO IT.
WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, HERE'S 
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE 
CANADIAN BLOOD SERVICES AND 
HEMA-QUEBEC TO DO THE RESEARCH 
NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO 
ELIMINATE THAT BAN SAFELY SO 
THAT WE CAN STILL HAVE A SAFE 
BLOOD SUPPLY AND WE CAN MOVE 
FORWARD ON ENDING DISCRIMINATION
AGAINST THE LGTBQ COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STEPS 
FORWARD.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ANCHOR OUR 
DECISIONS IN SCIENCE IN THE 
PROTECTIONS OF CANADIANS, BUT AS
I SAID, WE WILL WORK TO END THIS
DISCRIMINATION.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
AS I SAID, THIS IS A PROCESS 
THAT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST THE 
LGTBQ COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL BE 
WORKING WITH HEMA-QUEBEC AND 
CANADIAN BLOOD SERVICES TO 
ENSURE THAT WE CAN BASE 
OURSELVES ONLY ON SCIENCE AND 
THE SAFETY OF CANADIANS AS WE 
MOVE FORWARD TO REMOVE THESE 
DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES.
AND WE WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY 
ABOUT THAT VERY SOON.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING, PRIME
MINISTER, ASHLEY BURKE, CBC 
NEWS.
YOU JUST SAID YOUR DECISIONS ARE
ANCHORED IN SCIENCE.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN 
SAYING REPEATEDLY THROUGHOUT 
THIS PANDEMIC, BUT SCIENCE HAS 
SHOWN THAT TEMPERATURE CHECKS 
DID NOT STOP THE SPREAD OF SARS.
DR. TAM, CANADA'S TOP DOCTOR, 
HAS ALSO SAID IT'S NOT AN 
EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR DETECTING 
PEOPLE WITH COVID-19.
SO IF YOU BELIEVE AND MAKE YOUR 
DECISIONS BASED ON SCIENCE, WHY 
ARE YOU BACKING THIS WHEN THE 
DESIGNS ISN'T THERE? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
SCIENCE HAS CERTAINLY SHOWN THAT
PEOPLE WITH FEVERS SHOULD NOT 
TRAVEL ON INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES
AT A TIME OF PANDEMIC.
THIS IS NOT -- TEMPERATURE 
CHECKS WILL NOT BE DETECTING 
CASES OF COVID-19.
SCIENCE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IT IS
NOT A SUREFIRE WAY OF SCREENING 
OUT PEOPLE WITH COVID FROM 
PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE COVID.
IT IS AN EXTRA LAYER OF 
PROTECTION ON TOP OF MANY OTHERS
THAT CAN HAVE POSITIVE EFFECTS 
ON PEOPLE WHO DECIDE THAT SINCE 
THEY STAY SICK THEY WILL STAY 
HOME AND NOT TRAVEL RATHER THAN 
BE TURNED AROUND AT THE AIRPORT.
IT'S AN EXTRA LAYER OF 
PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE COMING IN 
TO CANADA.
BUT IT IS NOT THE ONE SUREFIRE 
WAY OF COVERING -- KEEPING 
CANADIANS SAFE.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, OBVIOUSLY, 
WITH THE SCIENCE ON THAT.
BUT IT IS A MEASURE THAT WE CAN 
MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN 
ADDITION TO OTHER MEASURES CAN 
BE EFFECTIVE AT MAKING SURE THAT
CANADIANS ARE KEPT SAFER.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
WE KNOW FULL WELL THAT 
TEMPERATURE SCREENING WILL NOT 
TELL US WHO HAS COVID-19 AND WHO
DOESN'T HAVE COVID-19.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IN THAT 
REGARD THIS IS NOT A MEASURE 
THAT IS PARTICULARLY USEFUL FOR 
THAT PURPOSE.
BUT IT IS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF
PROTECTION TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE 
WHO ARE ILL NOT TO TRAVEL AND TO
DETECT INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE 
SYMPTOMS OF COVID-19.
IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL -- AN 
ADDITIONAL MEASURE THAT WILL 
PROTECT PEOPLE, AND I THINK 
CANADIANS EXPECT US TO DO 
WHATEVER WE CAN TO KEEP THEM 
SAFE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 
DOING.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: NOW THAT CANADIANS 
HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO OF CHIEF 
ADAM BEING TACKLED WITHOUT 
WARNING, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT 
THOSE OFFICERS SHOULD STILL BE 
MEMBERS OF THE RCMP?
AND WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU THAT
THE RCMP COMMISSIONER HAS SEEN 
THAT VIDEO AND DOESN'T UNDER THE
DEFINITION OF SYSTEMIC RACISM? 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT 
THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN, 
TRANSPARENT, INDEPENDENT 
INVESTIGATION INTO THAT INCIDENT
AND MANY OTHER INCIDENTS LIKE 
THAT.
THERE IS IMPORTANT ANSWERS TO 
HAVE ON THESE SPECIFIC THINGS, 
BUT ALSO ON THE PATTERN THAT WE 
ARE SEEING OF WHY SO MANY 
INDIGENOUS CANADIANS OR 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS ARE AFRAID 
WHEN THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH 
THE POLICE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO
ADDRESS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT
TOGETHER.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
I THINK THAT THESE INCIDENTS 
CLEARLY POINT TO THE NEED FOR 
DIRECT, OPEN AND TRANSPARENT 
INQUIRIES WITH RESPECT TO THESE 
INCIDENTS, BUT IT ALSO TELLS US 
THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM OF 
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION WITHIN 
OUR SYSTEMS AND OUR INSTITUTIONS
BECAUSE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS DO NOT FEEL
SAFE WHEN THEY HAVE AN 
INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: KEVIN GALLAGHER, 
CTV NEWS NATIONAL, PRIME 
MINISTER.
SO YOU'VE TALKED TODAY ABOUT THE
NEED FOR REFORM WITHIN THE RCMP.
YOU'VE SAID YOU'RE DISTURBED BY 
THE ARREST DASH CAM VIDEO OF 
CHIEF ADAM WHILE THE WOOD 
BUFFALO RCMP FOUND THE ACTIONS 
OF THE OFFICERS REASONABLE AND 
NOT REALLY WORTHY OF FURTHER 
INVESTIGATION.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD COMMENTS FROM 
TOP BRASS WITHIN THE RCMP 
QUESTIONING WHETHER THERE'S 
SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE FORCE.
DO YOU STILL HAVE CONFIDENCE IN 
THE TOP LEADERSHIP OF CANADA'S 
NATIONAL POLICE FORCE TO MAKE 
THE NECESSARY REFORMS THAT YOU 
SAY ARE NEEDED?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO
LIGHT OVER THE PAST DAYS 
HIGHLIGHT, WITHOUT QUESTION, 
THERE IS SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION
WITHIN OUR INSTITUTIONS, 
INCLUDING WITHIN THE RCMP.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO 
CORRECT THAT, AND I CONTINUE TO 
HAVE CONFIDENCE IN COMMISSIONER 
LUCKI FOR THE CHANGES THAT SHE'S
MADE ALREADY WITHIN THE FORCE 
AND THE MORE CHANGES WE NEED TO 
MAKE QUICKLY TO ENSURE THAT THE 
WOMEN AND MEN WHO SERVE IN OUR 
POLICE FORCES ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE RCMP, CAN
BETTER SERVE THEIR FELLOW 
CANADIANS, PARTICULARLY 
INDIGENOUS AND RACIALIZED 
CANADIANS.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
I CONTINUE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN
COMMISSIONER LUCKI BECAUSE OF 
THE THINGS SHE'S DONE AND THE 
STEPS SHE WILL BE TAKING, BUT 
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS 
A PROBLEM OF SYSTEMIC 
DISCRIMINATION WITHIN OUR 
INSTITUTIONS AND OUR POLICE 
FORCES, INCLUDING THE RCMP, AND 
WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM,
AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT WE 
WILL DO.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: FOLLOWING UP ON 
THAT QUESTION, GIVEN THAT 
COMMISSIONER LUCKI STILL HAS TO 
LEARN WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM IS, 
IS SHE NOT AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE 
SWIFT REFORMS THAT YOU SAY ARE 
NEEDED?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: I 
THINK THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF 
PEOPLE WHO ARE LEARNING JUST 
THIS WEEK WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM 
ACTUALLY IS AND WHAT IT MEANS 
FOR RACIALIZED CANADIANS, FOR 
INDIGENOUS CANADIANS.
THERE ARE SOME DEEP CHANGES WE 
NEED TO MAKE IN OUR 
INSTITUTIONS, AND WE NEED TO 
WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO 
MAKE THOSE CHANGES, WHO WANT TO 
BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, AND I 
KNOW COMMISSIONER LUCKI IS ONE 
OF THOSE.
>> Reporter: ONE OF THE REASONS 
WHY CANADIANS CAN DISMISS THE 
EXISTENCE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM IS 
BECAUSE YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS NOT 
MANDATED THE COLLECTION AND 
RELEASE OF DISAGGREGATED POLICE 
USE OF FORCE DATA.
WILL YOU DO THAT AND WHEN?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STEPS OVER
THE PAST YEARS ON THE COLLECTION
OF DISAGGREGATED DATA.
WE NEED RACE-BASED DATA TO BE 
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY 
WHAT'S GOING ON, WHETHER IT'S IN
OUR COMMUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S 
WITH POLICING, WHETHER IT'S IN 
FINANCIAL SECTORS, UNDERSTANDING
THE VULNERABILITY THAT CERTAIN 
CANADIANS FACE IN A SYSTEMIC WAY
IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS
WHY WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD ON 
DISAGGREGATED DATA, BUT WHY WE 
NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO MUCH MORE
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW OUR 
SYSTEMS ARE UNFAIR TOWARDS 
CERTAIN CANADIANS, PARTICULARLY 
BLACK CANADIANS, INDIGENOUS 
CANADIANS AND RACIALIZED 
CANADIANS.
>> Reporter: SO WILL YOU 
RELEASE -- [INDISCERNIBLE]. 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Rosemary: THAT IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA ON THIS 
FRIDAY SPEAKING ABOUT A NUMBER 
OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE.
I GUESS THE BIGGEST 
COVID-RELATED NEWS TODAY IS THAT
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOW MAKING IT 
MANDATORY TO HAVE TEMPERATURE 
CHECKS, THERMAL SCREENING IF YOU
BOARD FLIGHTS INTO CANADA, 
INSIDE CANADA.
IT WILL BE DONE IN A MEASURED 
WAY, BUT THAT IS SORT OF THE 
BIGGEST NEWS ON THE 
COVID-19-RELATED FRONT.
LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, 
AND I'LL BRING BACK VASSY AND 
CATHERINE.
LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS BECAUSE THERE
IS LOTS OF SCIENCE AND COMMENTS 
FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY 
THAT SAYS THAT THAT IS NOT THE 
BEST WAY TO SCREEN FOR COVID-19.
THE PRIME MINISTER MADE IT CLEAR
THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT SCREENING 
FOR COVID-19 BUT RATHER 
SCREENING FOR SYMPTOMS OF 
COVID-19, VASSY.
>> Vassy: YEAH, AND I'VE BEEN 
SORT OF FRANTICALLY LOOKING BACK
TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY DR. THERESA 
TAM HAD SAID ABOUT IT, AND WHAT 
I CAN FIND, AND THANKS TO OUR 
COLLEAGUE KATHLEEN HARRIS WHO 
FLAGGED IT FOR ME AS WELL, BACK 
AT THE BEGINNING OF MAY DR. TAM 
WAS ASKED VERY SPECIFICALLY IS 
THIS SOMETHING THAT CANADA 
SHOULD BE DOING, AND SHE SAID 
IT'S LARGELY INEFFECTIVE.
AND HER POINT WAS NOT THAT IT'S 
COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE, BUT THAT
THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY SCIENCE 
TO SHOW TEMPERATURE CHECKS ON 
THEIR OWN ARE GOING TO PREVENT 
THE SPREAD OF COVID-19.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ASKED 
MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT THAT, AND 
THAT THE SCIENCE IS NOT 
CONCLUSIVE ON ITS, AND HIS 
RESPONSE WAS THAT BASICALLY YOU 
SHOULDN'T BE TRAVELLING DURING A
PANDEMIC WHEN YOU HAVE A FEVER.
SO I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF 
THERE IS SCIENCE TO BACK UP THAT
THAT WILL MITIGATE SOME OF THE 
RISK OF THE SPREAD OF COVID-19.
YOU'D IMAGINE IF LESS PEOPLE WHO
ARE SICK ARE TRAVELLING, IT 
COULD, BUT I THINK THE QUESTIONS
WERE GENUINE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, 
WE'VE HEARD FROM DR. TAM IN THE 
PAST, ANT IT SORT OF FLOATS OFF 
OF OTHER CHALLENGES THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT HAS IN QUESTIONING 
HAS RECEIVED AROUND MEASURES WHY
DIDN'T YOU CLOSE THE BORDER 
SOONER, THE SCIENCE WASN'T 
THERE, THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S ALONG THOSE LINES, AND 
AGAIN, THE PRIME MINISTER 
RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THIS 
IS, YOU KNOW, ONE PART OF WHAT 
THEY ARE DOING.
I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT DR. TAM 
IN HER REMARKS, WHEN SHE TALKED 
ABOUT IT BEING INEFFECTIVE, WAS 
REALLY STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE 
OF THE 14-DAY QUARANTINE, SAYING
THAT IS YOUR BEST WAY TO COMBAT 
THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 AMONG 
TRAVELLERS AND FROM TRAVELLERS.
AND SO -- BUT SHE DID ALSO, TO 
BE FAIR, SAY THAT TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING BASICALLY WOULDN'T DO 
ANYTHING.
SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> Rosemary: LET ME JUST -- 
YOU'RE RIGHT.
PHIL GAVE ME THAT QUOTE BEFORE, 
SO I -- 
[LAUGHTER]
BECAUSE PHIL DOES ALL THAT 
STUFF, MY PRODUCER.
HE POINTS TO THIS STATEMENT BY 
THE PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY OF 
CANADA, THAT SAYS THAT 
IMPLEMENTING MEASURES BASED 
SEOULLY ON DETECTION IS NOT 
RECOMMENDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT 
USUALLY THE FIRST SYMPTOMS OF 
COVID-19, FEVER.
AND DURING THE SARS OUTBREAK, 
THAT REPORT -- SARS OUTBREAK IN 
2003, THERE WERE 6.5 MILLION 
SCREENINGS AT CANADIAN AIRPORTS,
2.3 OF THEM USED THERMAL 
SCANNERS, BUT NO CASES OF SARS 
WERE DETECTED USING THIS METHOD.
SO I GUESS IT IS REALLY JUST 
ANOTHER -- AS THE PRIME MINISTER
WAS SAYING, ANOTHER LAYER TO PUT
ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER MEASURES
THAT ARE IN PLACE.
PROBABLY THE MOST EFFECTIVE 
MEASURE FOR TRAVEL WOULD BE THE 
MASKS, I WOULD GUESS, AT THIS 
STAGE, WHICH ARE ALSO MANDATORY,
BUT YOU CAN WELL IMAGINE 
CANADIANS MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT 
QUESTIONS ABOUT GETTING THEIR 
TEMPERATURE TAKEN AND WHETHER 
THERE ARE PRIVACY CONCERNS 
AROUND THAT AND STUFF AS WELL.
VASSY, LET ME ASK YOU TOO ABOUT 
WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAD TO 
SAY ABOUT THE VIDEO OF CHIEF 
ALLAN.
>> Vassy: A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS 
AS WE ANTICIPATED.
THE PRIME MINISTER MADE REMARKS 
INITIALLY ON THE VIDEO AND SAID 
HE HAS VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS 
ABOUT IT.
HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE 
SIGNIFICANCE, THE IMPORTANCE OF 
AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, 
WHICH IS TAKING PLACE IN 
ALBERTA, THE ALBERTA SERIOUS 
INCIDENT RESPONSE TEAM, I 
BELIEVE, IS THE ONE THAT IS SORT
OF TASKED WITH INVESTIGATING 
POLICE ACTIONS IN THAT PROVINCE.
THEY ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT 
HAPPENED.
THE BULK OF THE QUESTIONS HE 
RECEIVED WERE, OF COURSE, AROUND
WHAT WE HAD BEEN DISCUSSING 
PRIOR TO HIS REMARKS, AND THAT 
IS COMMISSIONER BRENDA LUCKI, 
THE RCMP COMMISSIONER, HER 
INABILITY TO DEFINE SYSTEMIC 
RACISM AND THEN SAY THAT IT 
EXISTS IN THE RCMP.
THE PRIME MINISTER AGAIN, LIKE 
HE WAS YESTERDAY, WAS CONCLUSIVE
THAT IT DOES, BUT THE QUESTION 
THAT HE GOT, AND ACTUALLY ONE OF
THE LAST QUESTIONS SORT OF 
ARTICULATED IT WITH A FINE 
POINT: HOW CAN YOU ENACT THE 
REFORM THAT HE TALKED ABOUT 
TODAY DURING HIS PRESS 
CONFERENCE, OFTEN, IN THE RCMP 
AND AMONG POLICING IF THE VERY 
PEOPLE WHO RUN THAT, WHO RUN THE
SERVICE, OR THE FORCE, DON'T 
BELIEVE THAT IT EXISTS.
IS THAT NOT AN IMPEDIMENT TO 
ENACTING THOSE REFORMS?
AND I FOUND HIS ANSWERS VERY 
INTERESTING, BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR 
THAT HE IS STICKING BY THE 
COMMISSIONER, RIGHT?
HE IS NOT WILLING TO CONDEMN 
WHAT SHE SAID OR WHAT SHE DIDN'T
SAY, BUT HE IS NOT TAKING THE 
SAME VIEWPOINT AS HER.
HIS STATEMENTS TO THAT EFFECT 
ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE 
HEARD FROM HER.
HE IS CONCLUSIVE, THERE IS 
SYSTEMIC RACISM IN POLICING, 
THERE IS SYSTEM RACISM IN THE 
RCMP AND BIG CHANGE NEEDS TO 
HAPPEN.
BUT HE IS UNWILLING TO SAY THAT 
HER POSITION OR WHAT SHE 
ARTICULATED TO YOU AND OTHERS 
THE OTHER DAY IS INACCURATE OR 
THAT IT COULD BE AN IMPEDIMENT 
TO THOSE REFORMS.
AND I THINK THERE WILL ALSO BE 
SOME VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS IN
THE COMING DAYS ABOUT WHAT THOSE
REFORMS LOOK LIKE.
I'M NOT SURE YOU NEED TO WAIT 
SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS 
INVESTIGATION TO CONCLUDE.
SURELY TO REACH CONCLUSIONS 
ABOUT THIS, BUT WE KNOW THIS IS 
NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT, AND IN
FACT THAT'S THE EXACT PHRASE 
THAT THE PRIME MINISTER USED.
IT'S NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
SO I THINK IN THE COMING DAYS, 
YOU KNOW, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US 
TO ASK WHAT THOSE REFORMS WILL 
BE, BUT ALSO TO HEAR FROM THE 
RCMP TO SORT OF CHECK WHAT WE'VE
JUST HEARD, THAT SHE WILL NOT BE
AN IMPEDIMENT TO THOSE REFORMS 
AND THE GOVERNMENT AND FIND OUT 
WHAT THOSE REFORMS MIGHT LOOK 
LIKE.
>> Rosemary: IT'S NOT A ONE-OFF 
INCIDENT, AND IT'S NOWHERE NEAR 
NEW EITHER, WE SHOULD ALSO POINT
OUT.
THAT THE USE OF FORCE AGAINST 
VISIBLE MINORITIES, RACIALIZED 
PEOPLE, INDIGENOUS CANADIANS, 
HAS LONG BEEN MUCH HIGHER THAN 
IT IS AGAINST OTHERS, WHITE 
CANADIANS, FOR INSTANCE.
I'LL JUST QUOTE AGAIN WHAT 
BRENDA LUCKI SAID TO ME ABOUT 
SYSTEMIC RACISM.
SHE SAID SHE HAD HEARD 15 OR 20 
DEFINITIONS OF SYSTEMIC RACISM, 
AND IF IT REFERS TO AN 
UNCONSCIOUS BIAS THAT EXISTS, WE
DEFINITELY HAVE THAT IN THE RCMP
AND WE ARE NOT IMMUNE TO IT AT 
ALL.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD 
SUGGEST THAT UNCONSCIOUS BIAS 
DOES NOT GO FAR ENOUGH AND 
CERTAINLY IS NOT ON THE SAME -- 
IS NOT THE SAME DEFINITION AS 
SYSTEMIC RACISM AT ALL, AND IT'S
CERTAINLY NOT THE LANGUAGE THE 
PRIME MINISTER IS USING.
CATHERINE, YOUR THOUGHTS ON 
THAT?
>> Catherine: YEAH, I WAS 
PARTICULARLY STRUCK, AS I THINK 
VASSY WAS, BY ONE OF THE LAST 
COMMENTS WHERE HE WAS ASKED IF 
BRENDA LUCKI WAS AN IMPEDIMENT, 
AND HE SAID AN AWFUL LOT OF 
PEOPLE THIS WEEK ARE LEARNING 
WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM IS.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO 
WANT TO MAKE CHANGES.
BRENDA LUCKI IS ONE OF THOSE.
AND I WONDERED IN THAT MOMENT 
HOW SOMEONE MIGHT FEEL IF THEY 
WERE A RACIALIZED MEMBER OF THE 
RCMP HEARING THE PRIME MINISTER 
SAY ESSENTIALLY WELL THE 
COMMISSIONER IS FIGURING IT OUT 
THIS WEEK, HOW IT WOULD FEEL TO 
HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FORCE 
FOR SOME TIME AND BE GETTING 
THIS MESSAGE.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S 
BEING FIGURED OUT.
AS VASSY SAID, HE SEEMS TO BE 
STANDING BY HER SAYING I SUPPORT
HER NOW, I ALSO SUPPORT HER AS 
SHE MOVES FORWARD AND MAKES MORE
CHANGES, AND THAT WAS A 
CONSISTENT THEME THROUGHOUT WHAT
JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAID TODAY, THE 
NEED FOR MORE CHANGE.
HE HAS TALKED ABOUT BODY CAMERAS
AS BEING ONE AVENUE FOR THAT.
I KNOW SEVERAL OF US WERE ASKING
QUESTIONS, HE KEPT TALKING ABOUT
THE IMPORTANCE OF AN INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION, AND WE WERE 
WONDERING WAS HE REFERRING TO AN
INVESTIGATION OTHER THAN THE 
INVESTIGATION THAT IS ALREADY 
GOING ON IN ALBERTA.
THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE 
SAYING IT IS THE SAME 
INVESTIGATION, BUT SAYING TO ME 
THAT THEY -- HE IS MAKING IT 
CLEAR THAT HE HAS AN EXPECTATION
THAT THAT PARTICULAR 
INVESTIGATION, THAT THESE 
INVESTIGATIONS BE TRANSPARENT, 
THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF
THIS.
THAT DOES, THOUGH, I THINK LINK 
BACK TO WHAT ANDREW SCHEER WAS 
SAYING EARLIER TODAY ABOUT A 
BACKLOG OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST 
THE RCMP THAT WOULD, OF COURSE, 
BE ANOTHER MEANS OF 
INVESTIGATING THESE CONCERNS, 
PRECISELY WHAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER WAS LAYING OUT TODAY AS
AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO, SO 
WILL THERE BE, FOR INSTANCE, 
MORE MONEY TO TRY TO DEAL WITH 
THAT PARTICULAR BACKLOG AS WE 
LOOK AT -- I MEAN, I DON'T THINK
ANYONE IS SAYING THAT BODY 
CAMERAS ARE -- IF THERE IS AN 
AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S A WAY TO 
PROCEED, THAT THEY ARE THE SOLE 
ANSWER TO THIS.
THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE 
PRIME MINISTER IS SAYING.
SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER AVENUES WE
ARE GOING TO BE PURSUING?
>> Rosemary: IN FACT, THAT'S NOT
WHAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS 
SAYING.
SHE WAS TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE 
FACT THAT THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL 
FOR THE RCMP BUT IS NOT THE END 
ALL BE ALL TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY.
I WOULD ALSO JUST OBVIOUSLY 
REMIND PEOPLE THAT THESE 
QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW -- 
AROUND POLICING COME, YES, FROM 
SPECIFIC INCIDENTS.
WE HAVE SEEN ON VIDEO IN THIS 
COUNTRY.
BUT THEY ARE REALLY BORNE OUT OF
A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION 
HAPPENING PROBABLY AROUND THE 
WORLD I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY 
AT THIS POINT ABOUT ANTI-BLACK 
RACISM AND OTHER FORMS OF RACISM
THAT WE ARE SEEING, WHETHER IT 
BE IN INSTITUTIONS OR IN 
POLICING.
CERTAINLY THAT STARTED AFTER THE
DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD AT THE 
HANDS OF A POLICE OFFICER, BUT 
IT HAS NOW REALLY TAKEN ON A 
NEWFOUND MOMENTUM, INCLUDING IN 
THIS COUNTRY.
AS I SAID, THESE THINGS HAVE 
BEEN HAPPENING FOR A LONG TIME 
TO RACIALIZED CANADIANS AND 
INDIGENOUS CANADIANS, BUT IT IS 
PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THIS MOMENTUM
THAT THERE IS NOW A NEW 
INCREASED FOCUS ON SOME OF THE 
MORE RECENT INCIDENTS THAT WE 
HAVE SEEN.
LET ME JUST END ON THE ISSUE OF 
LONG-TERM CARE BECAUSE IT DOES 
SEEM THAT THERE WAS AN 
EXTENSION, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND 
LIKE EVERYTHING HAPPENED SUPER 
SMOOTHLY IN TERMS OF GETTING TO 
THAT EXTENSION.
VASSY, I'LL START WITH YOU AND 
THEN CATHERINE.
>> Vassy: THIS WAS AN 
INTERESTING PART AS WELL WHEN 
THE PRIME MINISTER ANNOUNCED, 
AND I SHOULD JUST SAY FOR 
BACKGROUND, THE PREMIER OF 
QUEBEC HAS ASKED FOR AN 
EXTENSION OF THE MILITARY IN 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES UNTIL MID 
SEPTEMBER.
THE PREMIER OF ONTARIO HAS ASKED
THE MILITARY TO STAY AS LONG AS 
NEEDED.
THE DAY THAT AGREEMENT WAS 
SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE IS TODAY.
THE PRIME MINISTER ANNOUNCED 
THAT THEY WILL STAY ON UNTIL 
JUNE 26, WHICH SOUNDS OKAY, A 
TWO-WEEK EXTENSION.
IT'S JUST FAR SHORT OF BASICALLY
WHAT BOTH PREMIERS SAY THEIR 
PROVINCES NEED.
AND YOU COULD HEAR FROM MOST 
ESPECIALLY OUR COLLEAGUES WHO 
ARE BASED IN QUEBEC, OR WRITE 
FOR OR REPORT FOR QUEBEC-BASED 
MEDIA OUTLETS, A LOT OF 
QUESTIONS TO THE PRIME MINISTER 
ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE GOING 
BEYOND THAT.
HE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE RED 
CROSS, SOMETHING THAT BILL 
BLAIR, THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC 
SAFETY, HAD MENTIONED IN THE 
HOUSE OF COMMONS A FEW DAYS AGO 
AND SAID THAT ULTIMATELY -- I'M 
TRYING TO INTERPRET BETWEEN A 
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REMARKS, BUT
ULTIMATELY THEY WOULD START TO 
TAKE OVER FOR THE MILITARY.
THEY WOULD BE TRAINED AND THEY 
WOULD EVENTUALLY DISPLACE THE 
MILITARY TO SOME DEGREE.
THERE AREN'T A LOT OF SPECIFICS 
ON IT, THOUGH.
THERE ISN'T A TIMELINE ATTACHED 
TO IT, BUT IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS 
LIKE THE PLAN IS TO REMOVE THE 
MILITARY AND NOT HAVE THEM STAY 
THERE FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, 
WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHAT THE 
PREMIER OF QUEBEC WANTED.
THAT IS MY GUESS IS NOT GOING TO
GO OVER GREAT IN QUEBEC AND 
PROBABLY NOT IN ONTARIO AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE THE
POSSIBILITY THAT THE RED CROSS 
IS ABLE TO SUPPLANT WHAT THE 
MILITARY IS DOING.
THAT'S VERY MUCH A POSSIBILITY.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF 
CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, IN THOSE 
PROVINCES, WE SHOULD SAY BASED 
ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, THE LEVEL 
OF TESTING IS VERY HIGH RIGHT 
NOW.
THE RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN EASED
A LITTLE BIT IN ONTARIO AS OF 
JUNE 18, ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY, 
BUT THERE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, 
82% OF THE DEATHS, ACCORDING TO 
MODELLING PRESENTED BY FEDERAL 
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS LAST 
WEEK, THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THIS
COUNTRY HAVE OCCURRED IN CASES 
LINKED TO LONG-TERM CARE AND 
SENIORS CARE IN THIS COUNTRY.
SO THERE IS A PRESSING CONCERN I
THINK AMONG PEOPLE WHO LIVE 
IN -- ESPECIALLY ABOUT THOSE 
PROVINCES, BUT CERTAINLY ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY, THAT THAT PROBLEM 
IS NOT OVER, ESPECIALLY IN 
ANTICIPATION OF A SECOND WAVE.
BUT CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT 
WILLING TO KEEP THE MILITARY 
THERE FOR ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS OR
SIX MONTHS, AND THEY SEEM TO BE 
FOCUSED ON A SOLUTION THAT 
INVOLVES THE RED CROSS.
>> Rosemary: MILITARY MISSIONS 
GENERALLY ARE NOT SORT OF AN 
ENDLESS THING, PARTICULARLY WHEN
IT'S AN EMERGENCY MISSION, 
INSIDE YOUR OWN COUNTRY, WHETHER
IT BE FLOODING OR FOREST FIRST 
MEETING  -- FOREST FIRES.
THERE IS A TIME WHEN IT COMES TO
AN END BECAUSE IT HAS OTHER 
DUTIES.
I WILL GET TO THE PRESS 
CONFERENCE IN A MOMENT, BUT I 
WANT CATHERINE TO WEIGH IN.
AS VASSY RIGHTLY POINTS OUT, I 
WOULD IMAGINE QUEBEC WOULD NOT 
BE NECESSARILY THRILLED WITH 
THIS DECISION.
>> Catherine: WELL, I THINK, 
ROSEMARY, IN FACT WE KNOW THAT 
IS ALREADY TRUE TO SOME EXTENT.
HEARING PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE 
CALL LAST NIGHT BETWEEN THE 
PRIME MINISTER AND THE PREMIERS 
THAT ONE OF THE POINTS OF 
TENSION DURING WHAT WAS A 
PARTICULARLY TESTY CALL, I'M 
TOLD BY SOURCES INVOLVED IN THE 
CALL, WAS A DISCUSSION BETWEEN 
PREMIER LEGAULT AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR 
ISSUE.
PREMIER LEGAULT HAD SAID 
PUBLICLY HE NEEDS MORE.
THE PRIME MINISTER AND OFFICIALS
AROUND HIM HAVE SAID THERE'S 
ONLY SO MUCH WITH YOU CAN DO.
THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE SAID WE 
HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF MEDICAL
PERSONNEL.
WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS.
THE PRIME MINISTER SAYING TODAY,
WELL, WE CAN FIND A WAY TO 
SUSTAIN IT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 
COUPLE OF WEEKS WHEN IT COMES TO
THE ARMED FORCES, BUT WE'RE 
GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO 
RAMP UP OTHER SOURCES OF 
SUPPORT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PREMIER WAS 
UNHAPPY LAST NIGHT.
WE CAN EXPECT HIM TO AIR HIS 
VIEWS PUBLICLY LATER TODAY.
I THINK IT WAS NOTEWORTHY AS 
WELL THAT THE PRIME MINISTER 
SAID I'M NOT SAYING MISSION 
ACCOMPLISHED HERE.
AND REFERRED AGAIN TO QUEBEC 
REALLY TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL 
OF ITS LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, 
SUGGESTING THE SITUATION IS NOT 
EVEN UNDER CONTROL, LET ALONE 
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
BUT THAT TUG OF WAR ABOUT WHO IS
SUPPOSED TO FILL IN THE GAP, WE 
KNOW QUEBEC IS LOOKING FOR ABOUT
10,000 NEW ORDERLIES, BUT THAT 
THEY PLAN TO TRAIN THOSE PEOPLE 
OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL 
AMONGST, AND SO THOSE PEOPLE 
WILL NOT BE READY TO STEP IN 
JUST YET.
>> Rosemary: AND INTERESTINGLY, 
THOUGH, THE PRIME MINISTER SAID 
THAT MANY OF THOSE CANADIANS 
FORCES MEMBERS HAVE MOVED NOW TO
OTHER LONG-TERM CARE CENTRES 
BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE A REALLY 
GOOD JOB OF CONTAINING THE 
PANDEMIC.
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY -- 
PERHAPS UNDERSTAND, ANYWAY, WHY 
THE PROVINCES MIGHT WANT TO KEEP
THEM AROUND.
OKAY, I WILL COME BACK TO BOTH 
OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF 
THAT.
WE WILL TAKE YOU NOW BACK TO 
OTTAWA WHERE IT IS JUST CABINET 
MINISTERS HERE TODAY.
THIS IS MARC GARNEAU, PROBABLY 
IN HIS HOME IN MONTREAL THERE.
HE'S THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT.
ON TEMPERATURE CHECKS.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: IN ORDER TO PROTECT
THE SAFETY OF TRAVELLERS AND 
WORKERS IN AIR TRANSPORT.
THESE MEASURES WILL ENSURE THAT 
NO PASSENGER GOING INTO CANADA 
OR LEAVING CANADA, SAME FOR 
DOMESTIC FLIGHTS, WILL THIS 
ENSURE THAT THEY DO NOT POSE A 
RISK TO OTHER TRAVELLERS.
AS ALWAYS WE WILL BE DOING A 
FOLLOW-UP OF THESE MEASURES AND 
WE WILL EXPAND THEM IF NEEDED.
TO CONCLUDE, I WOULD LIKE TO 
THANK TRAVELLERS AND WORKERS 
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO ARE 
CONTRIBUTING TO THE SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS, OF CANADA BY 
FOLLOWING ALL COVID-19 MEASURES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MARC.
AND NOW I WILL GIVE THE FLOOR TO
JEAN-YVES DUCLOS.
>> THANK YOU, MARC.
THANK YOU, CHRYSTIA.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
GOOD MORNING.
THE PRIME MINISTER MADE SEVERAL 
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS 
MORNING.
I WILL FOCUS ON ONE
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
I WILL FOCUS ON THE CANADIAN 
FORMED FORCES BEING IN QUEBEC 
UNTIL JUNE 26.
TWO MAIN MESSAGES.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS ALWAYS SAID 
THAT IT WOULD BE THERE TO TAKE 
CARE OF SENIORS.
THE SECOND MAIN MESSAGE IS THAT 
NOTHING HAS CHANGED OVER THE 
PAST FEW WEEKS OF THE 1400 ARMED
FORCES MEMBERS WHO ARE ON SITE 
IN QUEBEC, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO
BE THERE.
THEY ARE TODAY, AND THEY WILL BE
THERE UNTIL JUNE 26.
ANOTHER -- OTHER GOOD NEWS IS 
THAT THE PRIME MINISTER IS 
COMMITTED TO HELPING UNTIL 
SEPTEMBER 15 AS WAS REQUESTED BY
QUEBEC.
ADDITIONAL FORCES FROM THE 
CANADIAN RED CROSS, SO 
VOLUNTEER -- THEY WILL SEND 
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE WELL TRAINED 
AND WELL PAID TO GIVE ADDITIONAL
SUPPORTS.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS BECAUSE IN 
THE COMING MONTHS THAT MEANS 
THAT THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT AND
THE QUEBEC GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE 
MORE STAFF THAT WILL BE WELL 
PAID AND WELL TRAINED, AND SO 
THESE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO 
ASSIST.
SO THIS IS GREAT NEWS THAT 
ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO 
COLLABORATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT 
OF QUEBEC.
>> THANK YOU, JEAN-YVES.
WE ARE NOW READY TO ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTIONS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> ONE QUESTION, ONE FOLLOW-UP 
AND THEN WE WILL TURN TO THE 
ROOM.
OPERATOR, OVER TO YOU.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
PLEASE PRESS STAR ONE AT THIS 
TIME IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
[No Interpretation]
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: HAPPY FRIDAY.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MINISTER 
GARNEAU REGARDING FEVER 
DETECTORS, IF WE CAN CALL THEM 
THAT.
WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS 
EQUIPMENT?
WILL THERE ALSO BE ADDITIONAL 
STAFF SENT IN TO ASSIST?
>> THANK YOU, RAYMOND, FOR THE 
QUESTION.
THE COSTS ARE QUITE MODEST, BUT 
WE DON'T KNOW THEM BECAUSE CATSA
WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 
PURCHASING OF EQUIPMENT FOR THIS
TO BE DEPLOYED IN 15 AIRPORTS, 
AS I MENTIONED.
THERE IS A CHOICE OF DIFFERENT 
TOOLS THAT CAN BE USED, AND THEY
NEED TO BE PRECISE ENOUGH.
CATSA WILL BE ABLE TO PAY FOR 
THESE WITH ITS BUDGET.
>> Reporter: WHAT MADE YOU 
CHANGE YOUR MIND?
BECAUSE A FEW WEEKS AGO YOU WERE
SAYING THAT IT WASN'T EFFECTIVE,
OTTAWA SEEMED TO SNUB THIS 
TECHNOLOGY, WHAT CHANGED YOUR 
MIND?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU, 
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT I'M AN 
ENGINEER.
I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE AND I CAN 
TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A HIGH 
PROBABILITY THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS
COVID-19, IF THEY HAVE A FEVER 
AND IF THEY TRY TO FLY, WE WILL 
BE ABLE TO DETECT IT.
THERE ARE TWO INTERNATIONAL 
ORGANIZATIONS IN AVIATION, AND 
THEY RECOMMEND TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING, AIR CANADA AND 
WESTJET HAVE ALREADY PUT IN 
PLACE MEASURES.
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE PUT IN 
PLACE EITHER THE SAME PROGRAM OR
ARE THINKING ABOUT IT.
WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THAT A 
LOT OF INFORMATION IS BASED ON 
SARS WHICH OCCURRED IN 2003, IF 
I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
THAT PANDEMIC ONLY AFFECTED A 
SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHEREAS 
TODAY WE ARE FACING A VIRUS THAT
HAS ALREADY INFECTED MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE IN ALMOST ALL COUNTRIES 
IN THE WORLD.
THE QUESTION, THUS, IS NOT THE 
SAME.
THE SITUATION IS NOT THE SAME, 
AND WE BELIEVE THAT TEMPERATURE 
SCREENINGS ARE A GREAT WAY TO 
ADD A LAYER TO OUR SECURITY 
MEASURES, OUR SAFETY MEASURES, 
AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENSURE 
THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A SPREAD 
OF THE VIRUS THROUGH OUR 
FLIGHTS.
CAN YOU REPEAT IN ENGLISH?
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> I DO BELIEVE IN SIGNS, AND I 
CAN TELL YOU -- I DO BELIEVE IN 
SCIENCE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT
IF SOMEBODY HAS A TEMPERATURE 
AND COVID AND WANTS TO TAKE A 
FLIGHT, THE CHANCES WITH 
MEASUREMENTS ARE VERY HIGH THAT 
WE WILL DETECT THAT PERSON.
IS IT PERFECT?
NO, BUT IT IS PART OF A LAYERED 
APPROACH THAT WE ARE TAKING, AND
WE ARE ALSO GOING ALONG WITH 
IATA, THE INTERNATIONAL AIR 
TRANSPORT AGENCY AND THE 
INTERNATIONAL CIVIL AVIATION 
ORGANIZATION, ACAO.
THESE ARE BODIES THAT RECOMMEND 
IT BE DONE.
MANY COUNTRIES HAVE DONE IT OR 
ARE CONTEMPLATING IT.
IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, AIR CANADA 
AND WESTJET HAVE PUT THESE 
MEASURES IN PLACE, AND I WOULD 
ALSO SAY THAT WHEN PEOPLE TALK 
ABOUT PAST EXPERIENCE WITH 
TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENTS, THEY 
OFTEN REFER TO THE SARS 
SITUATION.
THAT IS A SITUATION THAT 
INVOLVED VERY SMALL NUMBERS.
WE'RE TALKING HERE NOW ABOUT 
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN VIRTUALLY 
EVERY COUNTRY, OVER 200 
COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, SO IT IS
A DIFFERENT SITUATION, AND I 
WILL REPEAT THAT IT IS PART OF A
LAYERED APPROACH, AND IF A 
PERSON DOES HAVE A FEVER AND HAS
SARS -- BEG YOUR PARDON, THE 
CORONAVIRUS, THERE ARE VERY HIGH
PROBABILITIES WE WILL DETECT 
THAT, AND THAT WAY WE CAN 
PROTECT CANADIANS FROM THE 
SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION, PLEASE.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT QUESTION IS FROM 
THERESA WRIGHT FROM THE CANADIAN
PRESS.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> Reporter: YES, THANK YOU.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR 
MINISTER GARNEAU.
A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE 
INTERNATIONAL CIVIL AVIATION 
ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK IS GOING 
TO GIVE THE BLACK BOXES TO 
FRANCE INSTEAD OF THE UKRAINE 
AND THAT THIS WILL WILL HAPPEN 
AS SOON AS EVERYONE WHO NEEDS TO
BE THERE CAN TRAVEL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPECTATION THEY
WILL FOLLOW THROUGH THIS TIME?
AND DOES CANADA THINK IT'S OKAY 
FOR THEM TO SEND THE BLACK BOXES
TO FRANCE AND BYPASS UKRAINE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE THINK IT IS 
PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.
IN FACT, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO 
SEND THOSE BLACK BOXES TO 
FRANCE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS 
SPEAKING AT THE COUNCIL OF THE 
ICAO EARLIER THIS WEEK.
IT HAS BEEN 92 DAYS SINCE IRAN 
PROMISED THAT WITHIN TWO WEEKS 
IT WOULD MOVE THE BOXES.
WE KNOW THAT THE BEA, WHICH IS 
AN AGENCY IN FRANCE, LIKE OUR 
TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD, HAS
THE CAPABILITY AND THE EXPERTISE
TO ANALYZE THESE BOXES, AND WE 
ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGING IRAN TO
MOVE THOSE BOXES TO PARIS AS 
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: YES, THANK YOU.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MINISTER
FREELAND.
REPORTS THAT CANADA AND THE U.S.
WILL LIKELY AGREE TO A CLEAN 
ROLLOVER OF THE BORDER 
RESTRICTIONS INTO JULY HAVE COME
AS A DISAPPOINTMENT TO MANY, 
INCLUDING DIVIDED FAMILIES AND 
BORDER COMMUNITIES THAT DEPEND 
ON TOURISM DOLLARS.
AND THEY WANT TO HEAR LESS ABOUT
WHETHER THE BORDER WILL OPEN AND
MORE ABOUT HOW IT WILL OPEN WHEN
THE TIME COMES.
SO WHEN WILL CANADIANS AND 
AMERICANS START HEARING MORE 
ABOUT HOW THE BORDER WILL OPEN 
INSTEAD OF WHETHER IT WILL?
>> WELL, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL LET 
ME SIMPLY SAY THAT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH ON
THE BORDER BETWEEN CANADA AND 
THE UNITED STATES, WE ARE HAVING
ONGOING CONSTANT CONVERSATIONS 
WITH OUR AMERICAN PARTNERS.
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR 
ALL OF US TO RECOGNIZE THAT SO 
FAR OUR JOINT COLLABORATIVE 
APPROACH TO THE U.S.-CANADA 
BORDER HAS BEEN A REAL SUCCESS.
ON ONE HAND WE HAVE ALLOWED 
ESSENTIAL TRAVEL TO CONTINUE, 
TRAVEL WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT FOR
OUR ECONOMY, SO IMPORTANT FOR 
THE MEDICAL SUPPLY CHAIN, AND 
THAT HAS REALLY KEPT ON GOING, 
EVEN OTH HEIGHT OF THIS PANDEMIC
HERE IN CANADA, AND AT THE SAME 
TIME WE'VE DONE THE MOST 
IMPORTANT THING, WHICH IS BY 
PUTTING THESE RESTRICTIONS IN 
PLACE WE HAVE BEEN ACT TO 
PROTECT CANADIANS AND ACT IN A 
NEIGHBOURLY WAY TOWARDS OUR 
AMERICAN PARTNERS.
WHEN IT COMES TO DECISIONS ABOUT
THE BORDER IN THE FUTURE, LET ME
FIRST EMPHASIZE THAT ALL 
DECISIONS ABOUT THE CANADIAN 
BORDER WILL BE TAKEN BY 
CANADIANS IN THE CANADIAN 
NATIONAL INTEREST.
OF COURSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT 
CANADA IS AN OPEN SOCIETY.
WE ARE AN OPEN COUNTRY.
WE ARE USED TO TRAVELLING 
FREELY, AND THAT IS A GREAT 
THING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY.
I THINK WE ALL ALSO UNDERSTAND 
THAT WE ARE LIVING IN TRULY 
EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN 
PEOPLE ACROSS OUR COUNTRY HAVE 
MADE GREAT PERSONAL SACRIFICES 
TO FIGHT THIS PANDEMIC.
PEOPLE HAVE STAYED HOME.
THEY HAVE ENDURED TREMENDOUS 
RESTRICTIONS, AND LET ME POINT 
OUT ALSO THAT TRAVEL WITHIN 
CANADA BETWEEN PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES CONTINUES TO BE 
RESTRICTED IN MANY PLACES.
I THINK ALL OF US ARE REALLY 
EXCITED ABOUT THE GRADUAL 
REOPENING OF OUR ECONOMY.
I THINK IT'S A RELIEF, BUT AT 
THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT'S 
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF 
US TO APPRECIATE HOW SERIOUS 
THIS SITUATION IS, AND FOR ALL 
OF US TO ACT PRUDENTLY AND 
CAREFULLY.
FOR ME, IT IS SUCH A PRIORITY 
FOR US NOT TO SQUANDER THE GAINS
THAT WE HAVE MADE AT GREAT, 
GREAT PRICE, A PRICE PAID BY 
EVERY SINGLE CANADIAN AND PAID 
PARTICULARLY BY PEOPLE WORKING 
ON THE FRONT LINES OF HEALTH 
CARE, WORKING AT THE LONG-TERM 
CARE FACILITIES.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE 
CAREFUL, CAUTIOUS AND PRUDENT.
AND I WILL JUST CONCLUDE BY 
SAYING WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION 
WITH THE FIRST MINISTERS, THE 
PREMIERS OF THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES ABOUT THIS REALLY 
IMPORTANT ISSUE YESTERDAY 
EVENING.
[No Interpretation]
>> Operator: 
[No Interpretation]
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
QUESTION FROM RADIO-CANADA. 
>> Reporter: I HAD A QUESTION.
MADAM FREELAND, REGARDING THE 
BORDERS, IF WE'RE SCREENING FOR 
TEMPERATURES, DOES THAT MEAN THE
BORDERS WILL BE OPEN?
AND REGARDING TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING, IS THIS A SCIENTIFIC 
DECISION?
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT 
MS. TAM BELIEVES.
>> AS MR. MORNEAU EXPLAINED AND 
AS THE PRIME MINISTER EXPLAINED 
THIS MORNING, OUR APPROACH IS TO
PUT IN PLACE LOTS OF MEASURES.
WE WANT TO PUT MEASURES TOGETHER
SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE 
HEALTH OF CANADIANS.
MEASURES INDIVIDUALLY CANNOT 
GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS.
HOWEVER, BY TAKING A GROUP OF 
MEASURES TOGETHER, LIKE MASKS, 
FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING, LIKE QUARANTINE, LIKE
SOCIAL DISTANCING, BY DOING ALL 
OF THESE THINGS, WE ARE ABLE TO 
GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS, AND THAT IS OUR 
PRIORITY.
>> MR. GARNEAU?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT 
MADAM FREELAND RESPONDED SO WELL
TO THIS QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU, MARC. 
>> REGARDING THE MEASURES THIS 
MORNING, THIS IS FOR AIR 
PASSENGERS.
THIS IS A BORDER THAT IS 
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IS FOR 
AIR PASSENGERS CURRENTLY.
>> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?
>> Reporter: SO THIS DOESN'T 
MEAN ANYTHING REGARDING 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL?
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR 
MR. DUCLOS.
REGARDING THE CANADIAN ARMED 
FORCES, YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE 
1400 MEMBERS, AND WE HEAR THAT 
THERE ARE ABOUT 350 IN 
SUPERVISION, ABOUT 350 IN 
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES.
QUEBEC HAS REQUESTED THAT THEY 
STAY UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
IS QUEBEC BEING UNREASONABLE?
WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION?
HOW IS IT -- WHY IS IT SO 
COMPLICATED TO FIND A SOLUTION 
WITH QUEBEC?
>> MR. SAJJAN, MADAM FREELAND 
DISCUSS ON A DAILY BASIS WITH 
OUR QUEBEC COUNTERPARTS, AND 
THIS IS IMPORTANT.
MAYBE A REMINDER OF THE 
IMPORTANT NUMBERS.
FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS THERE'S 
BEEN 1500 MILITARY PERSONNEL 
DEPLOYED.
SOME OF THEM ARE THERE FOR 
SUPPORTS TO THOSE WHO HAVE 
MEDICAL TRAINING OR THEY ARE 
SUPPORTING IN THESE LONG-TERM 
CARE FACILITIES, SUPPORTING 
THOSE WHO HAVE MEDICAL TRAINING.
JUNE 12, THERE IS STILL 1500 
MEMBERS DEPLOYED ON-SITE, BUT 
WHERE THEY ARE AND THE NUMBER OF
THEM DEPENDS ON THE DIFFERENT 
FACILITIES.
DIRECTIVES HAVE BEEN CHANGING 
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS BECAUSE 
SOME LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES 
THAT WERE IN THE RED ARE NOW IN 
THE GREEN, SO PERSONNEL DOESN'T 
NEED TO BE THERE ANYMORE.
SO 25 OF THESE LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES HAVE HAD BEEN 
IDENTIFIED AND PRIORITIZED BY 
THE GOVERNMENT OF QUEBEC NO 
LONGER ARE A PART OF THE LIST OF
THOSE WHO NEED ALL THAT HELP.
35 LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES 
WERE ASSISTED AT SOME TIME BY 
THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES OVER 
THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
REGARDING DATES NOW, WE HAVE 
ANNOUNCED MEASURES, 1350 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL 
THAT WILL BE IN THE FIELD, THAT 
WILL BE PLACED ACCORDING TO THE 
NEEDS OF QUEBEC AND LONG-TERM 
CARE FACILITIES.
SO QUEBEC DETERMINES WHEN AND 
WHERE THEY NEED TO BE DEPLOYED.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT DATE, 
SEPTEMBER 15.
MR. TRUDEAU STATED THIS MORNING 
THAT THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT 
WOULD BE SUPPORTING SENIORS UP 
UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15, AND PERHAPS 
SEPTEMBER 15.
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID THIS 
MORNING.
AND HE ALSO SAID THAT WE ARE 
LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT 
WITH THE RED CROSS, AND THIS IS 
GREAT NEWS BECAUSE IT ADDS TO 
STAFF THAT IS TRAINED AND WELL 
PAID AS ASSISTANCE TO THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES, AND IT 
OFFERS ASSISTANCE SO THAT QUEBEC
CAN TRAIN ITS OWN PERSONNEL, ITS
OWN STAFF.
THAT WAY, IF THERE'S A SECOND 
WAVE, THINGS WILL BE EVEN MORE 
EFFECTIVE.
BECAUSE BEFOREHAND THE CANADIAN 
RED CROSS FORCES WERE NOT 
AVAILABLE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Reporter: MY QUESTIONS ARE 
FOR MINISTER GARNEAU.
YESTERDAY THE CEO OF AIR CANADA 
CALLED THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT'S
MEASURES ON TRAVEL 
DISPROPORTIONATE AND ASKED TO BE
ABLE FOR SOME TYPE OF REASONABLE
BUSINESS TO PURSUE.
I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR RESPONSE
TO THOSE REMARKS ARE.
IS THERE A RISK WITH THESE NEW 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS THAT PEOPLE 
WILL BE EVEN MORE UNABLE TO 
TRAVEL AND FLY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
THE SECOND PART, WITH RESPECT TO
TAKING TEMPERATURES, I THINK 
CANADIANS AND INTERNATIONAL 
PASSENGERS WILL WELCOME THESE 
AND REALIZE THAT THESE ARE AN 
ADDITIONAL LAYER OF SAFETY FOR 
CANADIANS.
WITH RESPECT TO THE STATEMENTS 
FROM AIR CANADA, LISTEN, I 
UNDERSTAND THEY'RE A BUSINESS.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO FLY AND THEY 
HAVE BEEN HARD HIT BY THIS 
PANDEMIC WITH RESPECT TO THEIR 
REVENUES AND THE NUMBER OF 
FLIGHTS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THIS 
GOVERNMENT HAS AN OVERRIDING 
PRIORITY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF
CANADIANS, AND THAT PASSES 
THROUGH THE MEASURES THAT WE 
HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE IN THE 
COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
GOING TO MINIMIZE THE 
POSSIBILITY OF IT SPREADING.
AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES AIR 
TRAVEL, AND SO I'M SURE THAT AIR
CANADA UNDERSTANDS THIS.
IN FACT, AIR CANADA HAS BEEN 
WORKING VERY CONSTRUCTIVELY WITH
US TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE 
MEASURES THAT WE HAVE PUT IN 
PLACE.
>> Reporter: AND JUST AS A 
FOLLOW-UP, YOU HAD MENTIONED 
THAT IF A PASSENGER HAS A FEVER,
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO 
RE-BOOK IN 14 DAYS.
AM I TO TAKE THAT AS PASSENGERS 
WHO HAVE FEVERS AND ARE DENIED 
TO FLY ARE NOT GOING TO GET A 
REFUND FOR THAT FLIGHT?
>> THE PROCESS AT THE MOMENT IS 
THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 
IF A PERSON HAS A FEVER, AND 
THERE WILL BE TWO MEASUREMENTS, 
TEN MINUTES APART, THAT THEY 
RE-BOOK.
WE DON'T WANT THEM TO ENTER THE 
SECURE AREA AND TAKE THE FLIGHT,
AND THEY WILL BE GIVEN THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO RE-BOOK THEIR 
FLIGHT 14 DAYS LATER.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE AIRLINES 
AS THIS PROGRAM IS DEPLOYED TO 
SEE IF WE CAN DO THE MAXIMUM 
POSSIBLE IN THE INTERESTS OF THE
PASSENGERS, REALIZING THAT IT'S 
IN OUR INTEREST, AS WELL AS THE 
AIRLINE'S INTEREST, NOT TO ALLOW
SOMEBODY TO TAKE A FLIGHT IF 
THEY HAVE A TEMPERATURE.
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
MCKENZIE?
>> Reporter: MCKENZIE GREY FROM 
CTV NEWS.
ONE THING AGREED ON IS THAT 
FRONT-LINE WORKERS HAVE WORKED 
REALLY HARD, MANY OF THEM FOR A 
VERY LIMITED PAY DURING THIS 
PERIOD.
IT'S WHY A NUMBER OF COMPANIES 
GAVE A $2 RAISE TO THEIR 
FRONT-LINE EMPLOYEES, THE 
CASHIERS AND SUCH.
LOBLAWS PUT OUT THEIR FIRST 
QUARTER STATEMENTS.
THEY MADE ALMOST A QUARTER 
BILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS UP 
SUBSTANTIALLY FROM LAST QUARTER,
BUT COMING THIS SATURDAY THEY 
ARE REDUCING THE PANDEMIC PAY 
BEING GIVEN TO THE FRONT-LINE 
WORKERS.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT 
GIVEN IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE 
VIRUS IS STILL PRESENT AND MANY 
OF THESE WORKERS, WHO OF WHOM 
ARE RACIALIZED AND LOW-INCOME 
CANADIANS, HAVE BEEN RELYING ON 
THAT RAISE TO GET THROUGH THIS 
PERIOD.
>> THANK YOU FOR THIS QUESTION, 
AND LET ME START OFF BY SAYING 
HOW GRATEFUL I AM PERSONALLY AND
HOW GRATEFUL ALL CANADIANS ARE 
AND SHOULD BE TO THE FRONT-LINE 
WORKERS WHO HAVE MADE IT 
POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET THROUGH 
THIS PANDEMIC SO FAR.
WORKING IN RISKY AND DIFFICULT 
SITUATIONS, AND I THINK AS YOU 
SAY, MCKENZIE, ONE OF THE THINGS
I THINK WE'VE REALIZED IS THAT 
MANY OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE 
TRULY MOST ESSENTIAL JOBS IN OUR
COUNTRY ARE AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO
RECEIVE THE LOWEST PAY.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL 
NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
I WOULD URGE ALL EMPLOYERS TO BE
GENEROUS WITH THEIR FRONT-LINE 
WORKERS, TO RECOGNIZE THE 
EXTRAORDINARY JOB THEY ARE 
DOING, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT
THAT CANADIANS REALLY, REALLY 
APPRECIATE IT.
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN WORKING 
WITH THE PROVINCES TO PROVIDE A 
TOP-UP FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, 
AND THAT IS A RECOGNITION BY US 
OF HOW IMPORTANT THE WORK THEY 
DO IS, AND OF THE FACT THAT MANY
OF THEM, AS YOU SAY, MCKENZIE, 
DON'T EARN VERY MUCH MONEY.
>> Reporter: MOVING OVER TO THE 
VIDEO OF CHIEF ALLAN ADAM, THE 
RCMP SAID THAT THERE WAS A 
REASONABLE USE OF FORCE.
I HAVE YET TO FIND ANYONE WHO'S 
WATCHED THAT SKRIDIO AND THOUGHT
THAT WAS A REASONABLE USE OF 
FORCE AGAINST THE CHIEF.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE 
RCMP AND THEIR CULTURE, THAT 
THEY THINK IT WAS REASONABLE TO 
DO THAT, AND WHAT IS YOUR 
ANALYSIS OF THAT VIDEO?
>> YOU KNOW, LET ME START BY 
SAYING I THINK FOR ME AND FOR 
ALL CANADIANS THOSE IMAGES ARE 
INCREDIBLY DISTURBING, AND IT'S 
RIGHT FOR US TO BE REALLY 
DISTURBED BY THEM.
THIS IS A MOMENT IN OUR COUNTRY 
WHEN WE NEED TO CONFRONT THE 
REALLY HORRIBLE REALITY THAT 
SYSTEMIC RACISM EXISTS HERE IN 
CANADA.
ANTI-BLACK RACISM EXISTS HERE IN
CANADA.
ANTI-INDIGENOUS RACISM EXISTS 
HERE IN CANADA.
IT IS SYSTEMIC.
IT EXISTS IN ALL OF OUR 
INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING THE 
POLICE, AND WE NEED TO 
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
WE NEED TO CONFRONT THAT, AND WE
NEED TO WORK REALLY HARD 
TOGETHER TO END THAT.
IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE 
FIRST MINISTERS LAST NIGHT, THE 
PRIME MINISTER RAISED THE ISSUE 
OF RACISM IN CANADA AND HOW WE 
NEED TO DO MUCH, MUCH BETTER, 
INCLUDING WHEN IT COMES TO 
POLICING.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE TREATMENT 
OF CHIEF ADAM SPECIFICALLY, AN 
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS 
HAPPENING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 
ESSENTIAL, AND I THINK THAT ALL 
CANADIANS WILL BE FOLLOWING THAT
INVESTIGATION VERY, VERY 
CAREFULLY.
OUR GOVERNMENT WILL CERTAINLY 
WILL WATCHING IT VERY, VERY 
CAREFULLY.
>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY PRIME 
MINISTER.
MIKE?
>> Reporter: THIS IS A QUESTION 
FOR MINISTER GARNEAU.
EARLY ON WHEN FLIGHTS WERE STILL
COMING BACK INTO CANADA, YOUR 
GOVERNMENT WAS ASKED WHY NOT 
SCREEN PEOPLE WITH TEMPERATURE 
SCREENINGS, AND AT THE TIME A 
VARIETY OF ANSWERS WERE GIVEN, 
SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST 
DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO PUT 
THERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ASK -- I'M 
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, NOW 
YOU'RE FULLY IN FAVOUR OF IT AND
SAYING YOU'RE ANCHORING THIS ON 
SCIENCE.
I DON'T THINK THE SCIENCE 
CHANGED IN THE LAST THREE 
MONTHS, SO I'M TRYING TO WONDER 
WHY YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED 
TO CHANGE ITS VIEW ON 
TEMPERATURE SCREENINGS AT 
AIRPORTS NOW.
>> I THINK -- THANK YOU FOR THE 
QUESTION.
AS DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER 
FREELAND, AND AS THE PRIME 
MINISTER AND AS I HAVE SAID, WE 
HAVE DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD TAKE
A LAYERED APPROACH, WHICH 
INVOLVES A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE MADE IT 
COMPULSORY FOR PASSENGERS TO 
WEAR MASKS DURING THE FLIGHT, 
AND WHEN THEY COULD NOT MAINTAIN
DISTANCE, THEY HAVE TO ANSWER A 
SCREENING QUESTIONNAIRE.
THEY ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE YOUR 
TEMPERATURES TESTED.
WE FEEL THAT THIS LAYERED 
APPROACH MAXIMIZES THE 
POSSIBILITY OF US DETECTING 
SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE COVID-19
AND WHO, OF COURSE, MIGHT INFECT
OTHERS.
SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE 
RIGHT APPROACH TO TAKE, THIS 
LAYERED APPROACH THAT MAXIMIZES 
OUR POTENTIAL AND OUR 
PROBABILITY OF DETECTING 
SOMEBODY WHO MAY HAVE THE VIRUS.
>> Reporter: I CAN APPRECIATE 
THAT, BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, 
THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION.
IT WAS WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR 
MIND, DECIDING TO NOW USE 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS AS OPPOSED TO
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN THAT
WAS NOT THE CASE?
>> SO I WILL ADD TO THAT THE 
FACT THAT IATA AND ICAO, TWO 
WORLD BODIES REPRESENTING ALL OF
AVIATION, AS WELL AS COUNTRIES, 
LIKE SOUTH KOREA, INDIA, CHINA, 
OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, CANADA
ITSELF WITH AIR CANADA AND 
WESTJET MAKING THE DECISION OF 
TAKING TEMPERATURES, WE HAVE 
LOOKED AT THE EVOLVING SITUATION
AND DECIDED THAT IT IS A SAFE 
AND PRUDENT THING TO ADD THIS AS
AN ADDITIONAL MEASURE AT THIS 
TIME, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY DOES 
HAVE COVID-19 AND HAS A 
TEMPERATURE AND WANTS TO TAKE A 
FLIGHT, THE PROBABILITY IS VERY 
HIGH THAT WE WILL DETECT THAT 
PERSON AND MINIMIZE THE 
POSSIBILITY OF SPREAD.
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO THE PHONE 
FOR THREE QUESTIONS.
OPERATOR?
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
[No Interpretation]
QUESTION FROM LA PRESSE 
CANADIAN.
>> Reporter: MR. GARNEAU, MY 
QUESTION IS FOR YOU AGAIN.
IT HAS TO DO WITH TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND: OUR 
INTERNATIONAL BORDERS ARE STILL 
CLOSED AS FAR AS I KNOW.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT TEMPERATURE 
SCREENING OF PEOPLE ARRIVING 
FROM ABROAD?
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT JULY WITH 
TEMPERATURE SCREENING OF 
TRAVELLERS INSIDE CANADA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
>> WE NEED TO HAVE A SAFE 
APPROACH BECAUSE IT CAN TAKE 
TIME TO GET THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED
AND WHAT MOTIVATES US IS THE 
FACT THAT OUR BORDER MIGHT -- 
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS FROM 
PASSENGERS FROM ABROAD.
THERE MAY BE A LIMITED POSSIBLE 
OF SCREENING.
PEOPLE CAN COME FROM DIFFERENT 
COUNTRIES, SO WE WANT TO LIMIT 
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
THAT'S ONE THING.
THERE'S ALSO THE POSSIBILITY 
THAT THE VIRUS WOULD COME BACK, 
THAT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER 
WAVE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO 
TAKE ALL THE MEASURES THAT WE 
CAN.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS WITH THE 
DIFFERENT PROVINCES, AND WE WANT
TO PUT MEASURES IN PLACE FOR 
DOMESTIC FLIGHTS.
>> LINEA, BEFORE MOVING ON TO 
YOUR FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, 
MR. GARNEAU, COULD YOU REPEAT 
YOUR RESPONSE IN ENGLISH?
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> YES.
WE HAVE PUT TEMPERATURE 
MEASUREMENTS IN PLACE FIRST FOR 
INTERNATIONAL PASSENGERS COMING 
INTO THE COUNTRY.
WE CAN PUT THOSE IN PLACE 
QUICKLY.
IT MEANS THAT FOREIGN AIRLINES 
AT THE DEPARTURE TO COME TO 
CANADA WILL TAKE TEMPERATURE 
MEASUREMENTS.
MANY OF THEM ARE ALREADY DOING 
IT BEFORE THEY COME INTO THE 
COUNTRY.
WE HAVE LESS CONTROL OVER WHAT 
IS HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTRIES,
AND THEREFORE WE WANT TO MAKE 
SURE WE MINIMIZE THE POSSIBILITY
OF INTRODUCING THE VIRUS INTO 
CANADA BY AIR PASSENGERS, SO 
THAT'S A FIRST MEASURE.
AND SECONDLY, WE ALSO WANT TO 
MAKE SURE THAT WE MINIMIZE THE 
POSSIBILITY OF SPREADING IT 
WITHIN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE 
PASSENGERS DO FLY FROM ONE PLACE
TO ANOTHER ACROSS THE COUNTRY, 
AND IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT 
LONGER FOR US TO PURCHASE THE 
EQUIPMENT, SET UP THE PROCEDURES
SO THAT WE CAN TEMPERATURE 
SCREEN PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE 
TAKING DOMESTIC FLIGHTS.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> LINA, YOUR FOLLOW-UP 
QUESTION?
>> Reporter: YES, THANK YOU.
MOVING ON TO MR. DUCLOS, WITH 
THE ARMED FORCES, YOU SAID 
[INDISCERNIBLE] I THINK 
MR. LEGAULT KNOWS HOW TO COUNT, 
AND HE SAID THAT ONLY 400 ARE 
WORKING IN THESE LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES.
WHY ARE YOU FIGHTING ON THIS 
NUMBER?
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE ARE 
900 OTHERS THAT ARE THERE THAT 
AREN'T WORKING?
AND ALSO WHY IS IT TAKING SO 
MUCH TIME TO REPLACE THESE 
SOLDIERS BY RED CROSS MEMBERS?
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?
>> THE MAIN ANSWER IS FROM THE 
BEGINNING WE HAVE SAID THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA WOULD BE 
THERE FOR AS LONG AS QUEBEC SAID
THAT THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE IN 
THESE LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES 
IN QUEBEC.
TODAY AND UNTIL JUNE 26, 1350 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES MEMBERS 
WILL BE EQUIPPED IN THE 
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES.
THE WAY THESE MEMBERS ARE 
DEPLOYED DEPENDS ON THE 
DIRECTNESS AND THE NEEDS OF 
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES.
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THERE 
WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN
MOST OF THESE LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES.
THAT'S WHY EVEN ITS MEMBERS WERE
DEPLOYED IN ONLY 25 FACILITIES 
THEY ACTUALLY ACTED IN ABOUT 35,
AND THEY WILL BE DEPLOYED IN 
OTHER CENTRES, OTHER FACILITIES 
UP UNTIL JUNE 26.
FURTHERMORE, WE WILL BE 
CONTINUING THIS COLLABORATION, 
THIS INTERVENTION BY THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES, AND PRIME
MINISTER TRUDEAU ANNOUNCED THAT 
UP TO SEPTEMBER 15 THE CANADIAN 
GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE TO 
SUPPORT SENIORS IN QUEBEC.
THIS INCLUDES RESOURCES THAT 
HAVE NOT BEEN USED, RESOURCES BY
THE RED CROSS.
THESE PEOPLE WILL BE WELL 
TRAINED AND WELL PAID TO WORK IN
THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE KNOW
IN QUEBEC AN ISSUE IS THE 
AVAILABILITY OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT HAS 
COMMITTED TO ASSISTING AND HAS 
DEPLOYED CANADIAN ARMED FORCES 
IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS TO OFFER 
ASSISTANCE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MINISTER.
NEXT QUESTION, PLEASE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> Operator: OUR NEXT QUESTION 
IS FROM APTN NATIONAL NEWS.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> Reporter: HELLO, DEPUTY PRIME
MINISTER, INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN 
THE TERRITORIES ARE PURSUING A 
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT ALLEGING 
WIDESPREAD POLICE BRUTALITY AND 
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION BY RCMP 
IN THE THREE TERRITORIES.
GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID ON THAT
TOPIC, DO YOU THINK THE RCMP 
SHOULD NEGOTIATE A SETTLEMENT IN
THAT CASE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE IMPORTANT 
QUESTION.
I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON A 
CASE WHICH IS BEFORE THE COURTS 
RIGHT NOW.
BUT LET ME BE CLEAR, AS THE 
PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN, THAT 
OUR GOVERNMENT UNDERSTANDS THAT 
SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION EXISTS 
IN CANADA.
SYSTEMIC RACISM EXISTS IN CANADA
IN ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS, 
INCLUDING THE POLICE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE.
WE NEED TO CONFRONT, AND WE NEED
TO WORK TO END.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU FOR THAT 
RESPONSE.
THE OTHER DAY IN THE HOUSE YOU 
REFERRED TO THE NEED FOR ROOT 
AND BRANCH REFORM WHEN IT COMES 
TO POLICING, ESPECIALLY IN 
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS 
AND HOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE 
POLICE MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE 
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES THEY ARE 
SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE?
>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE 
REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME
THAT WE COULD ALL SPEND THE REST
OF TODAY AND PROBABLY THE REST 
OF THIS MONTH TALKING ABOUT IT.
IT'S A BIG, CHALLENGING ISSUE.
AND TO OFFER A SHORT REPLY TO A 
VERY BIG QUESTION, I THINK THE 
PLACE TO START IS FOR THE 
GOVERNMENT TO LISTEN TO 
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN CANADA.
>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY PRIME 
MINISTER.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION, PLEASE.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT QUESTION IS FROM "LE 
DEVOIR".
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
[Speaking French]
[Voice of Interpreter]
>> Reporter: MY QUESTION IS FOR 
MINISTER GARNEAU.
[INDISCERNIBLE] CAN YOU GIVE US 
THE EXACT DATE [INDISCERNIBLE] 
FOR THE TEMPERATURE SCREENING?
AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, 
IF A TEMPERATURE IS HIGH YOU ARE
GOING TO BE ASKING 
[INDISCERNIBLE] 14 DAYS.
IS THAT NOT [INDISCERNIBLE]. 
DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE A VIRUS, 
AND YOU AREN'T CLEAR IF YOU HAVE
TO TAKE ANOTHER FLIGHT LATER ON 
DO YOU HAVE TO PAY ANOTHER FEE 
OR WILL IT BE INCLUDED IN YOUR 
TICKET?
>> THANK YOU, ELAINE, FOR YOUR 
QUESTION.
[INDISCERNIBLE] IMPLEMENTATION 
OF TEMPERATURE SCREENING FOR 
FLIGHTS TO CANADA, SO FOR 
INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS, THAT 
WOULD BE AT THE END OF JUNE.
WE'RE HOPING THAT BY THE END OF 
JULY THESE MEASURES YOU WILL SEE
IMPLEMENTED IN THE FOUR LARGEST 
AIRPORTS FOR DOMESTIC FLIGHTS 
GOING TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND BY 
SEPTEMBER, THE END OF SEPTEMBER,
FOR THE OTHER 11 AIRPORTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE DATES.
IF SOMEBODY HAS A HIGH 
TEMPERATURE, WE ARE GOING TO 
VERIFY THEIR TEMPERATURE TWICE 
WITH 10 MINUTES BETWEEN.
AND IF THE PERSON STILL HAS A 
HIGH TEMPERATURE, THEY WILL HAVE
TO WAIT 14 DAYS BEFORE BOOKING 
ANOTHER FLIGHT, AND WE ARE 
WORKING WITH AIRLINES IN ORDER 
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO 
PENALTIES IN THE PRICE THAT 
PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR 
RE-BOOKING A FLIGHT.
>> JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
MR. GARNEAU, COULD YOU PLEASE 
REPEAT THAT IN ENGLISH, AS WELL?
>> VERY GOOD.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THE DATES TO 
BRING THE TEMPERATURE TESTING 
INTO PLACE, FOR INTERNATIONAL 
PASSENGERS COMING TO CANADA, 
THAT WOULD BE AT THE END OF 
JUNE.
FOR DOMESTIC PASSENGERS, IT 
WOULD BE AT THE END OF JULY IN 
OUR FOUR LARGEST AIRPORTS.
THAT IS FOR DOMESTIC FLIGHTS, OR
FLIGHTS LEAVING THE COUNTRY, BUT
FROM THOSE FOUR LARGEST 
AIRPORTS, END OF JULY.
AND FOR THE 11 NEXT LARGEST 
AIRPORTS, IT WOULD BE THE END OF
SEPTEMBER.
IF A PERSON HAS AN ELEVATED 
TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENT, AND WE 
WOULD DO TWO MEASUREMENTS TEN 
MINUTES APART, JUST IN CASE THE 
PERSON, LET'S SAY, WAS RUNNING 
VERY VIGOROUSLY TO CATCH THEIR 
FLIGHT AND THERE WAS A TEMPORARY
ELEVATION IN THEIR TEMPERATURE, 
WE WOULD TAKE THE TEMPERATURES 
TEN MINUTES APART.
IF THE PERSON STILL HAD AN 
ELEVATED TEMPERATURE, WE WOULD 
REQUIRE THEM NOT TO RE-BOOK FOR 
14 DAYS.
THAT'S AN ARBITRARY BUT PRUDENT 
AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THE 
INTENTION IS THAT -- AND WE'RE 
WORKING WITH THE AIRLINES, IS 
THAT THE RE-BOOKING WOULD NOT BE
MORE EXPENSIVE.
IT WOULD JUST BE A RE-BOOKING TO
A DIFFERENT DATE.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, WE WILL LEAVE
THAT PRESS CONFERENCE NOW WITH 
CABINET MINISTERS.
DR. THERESA TAM DID PUT OUT AN 
UPDATE ONLINE.
I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT WE ARE 
TESTING 33,000 CANADIANS DAILY 
ON AVERAGE.
OF COURSE THE GOAL OR THE 
CAPACITY, THE LAB CAPACITY IS 
ALMOST DOUBLE THAT.
I'LL BRING BACK MY COLLEAGUES, 
VASSY KAPELOS AND CATHERINE 
CULLEN.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, 
AROUND THE TEMPERATURE NOW -- 
WELL, SOON TO BE MANDATORY 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS FOR GOING ON 
TO AIRPLANES.
I THOUGHT THE END THERE WAS 
HELPFUL FROM THE TRANSPORT 
MINISTER MARC GARNEAU IN TERMS 
OF LAYING OUT HOW EXACTLY IT'S 
GOING TO WORK.
HE ALSO HAD AN INTERESTING 
THINGS TO SAY ABOUT WHY THEY ARE
GOING FORWARD WITH THIS, GIVEN 
THAT THERE HAD BEEN MANY 
CONVERSATIONS, INCLUDING FROM 
DR. TAM, ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT THE 
ONLY THING OR REALLY THE THING 
THAT WILL NECESSARILY SCREEN OUT
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVID-19.
>> Vassy: YEAH, I'LL START ON 
THE LOGISTICS ASPECT OF WHAT HE 
LAID OUT THERE AT THE END.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE HOPING 
BY THE END OF JUNE TO HAVE THE 
FIRST PHASE OF HOW THIS WILL 
ROLL OUT IN PLACE, AND THAT IS 
FOR PASSENGERS COMING INTO 
CANADA, AND THEN THEY ARE 
LOOKING FOR THE PASSENGERS I 
GUESS WITHIN CANADA OR LEAVING 
CANADA TO HAPPEN BY THE END OF 
JULY, AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AT 
THE FOUR BIGGEST AIRPORTS, SO A 
BIT OF A TIMELINE ON WHAT THEY 
HOPE TO SEE HAPPEN WITH THIS, 
AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE NEW 
MEASURE THAT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY
ON TAKING YOUR TEMPERATURE 
BEFORE YOU BOARD A FLIGHT.
THE BASIC RULE IS IF YOU HAVE A 
FEVER, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO 
BOARD THAT FLIGHT.
ON THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS,
THE MINISTER THERE, MARC 
GARNEAU, GETTING MANY OF THE 
SAME QUESTIONS WE HEARD DIRECTED
AT THE PRIME MINISTER, AND WITH 
GOOD REASON.
DR. TAM, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, 
ROSIE, HAS SAID IN THE PAST AS 
LATE AS EARLY MAY THAT IT'S NOT 
AN EFFECTIVE MEASURE TO 
BASICALLY STOP THE SPREAD OF 
COVID-19, THAT IN FACT WHAT IS 
FAR MORE EFFECTIVE IS ENFORCING 
THAT 14-DAY QUARANTINE RULE.
THE PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER 
GARNEAU BOTH INSISTED, SORT OF 
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY KNOW IT'S
NOT A PANACEA.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BY ITSELF STOP
THE SPREAD FROM COMING -- OR 
STOP THE VIRUS FROM GETTING INTO
CANADA OR STOP THE SPREAD OF IT,
BUT THAT THEY VIEW IT AS A 
MEASURE THAT WILL ALMOST ADD AN 
ADDED LAYER OF PROTECTION, 
BASICALLY.
SO IF DURING A PANDEMIC YOU ARE 
ILL IN ANY WAY, YOU SHOULD NOT 
BE TRAVELLING.
THIS IS ONE WAY TO IDENTIFY 
WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS ILL, A
FEVER USUALLY IS EVIDENCE OF 
THAT, TO SOME DEGREE.
BUT CERTAINLY I DO -- LIKE I 
SAID BEFORE, I UNDERSTAND THE 
QUESTIONS, JUST BECAUSE THERE 
HAVE BEEN OTHERS AS WELL ABOUT, 
OKAY, WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL 
THIS POINT TO DO THIS MEASURE, 
AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN 
ASKED BEFORE, WHAT ABOUT 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS, AND THEY 
SAID THE SCIENCE WASN'T THERE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SCIENCE 
IS PRETTY INCONCLUSIVE ON IT.
HE DID SORT OF MAKE A 
DISTINCTION BETWEEN PAST VIRUSES
OR, LIKE SARS VERSUS WHAT'S 
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW -- WHAT I 
GARNERED FROM WHAT THEY SAID WAS
AND WHAT HE SAID SPECIFICALLY 
WAS THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, IF WE 
CAN DO ONE OTHER THING THAT 
MAYBE HELPS THINGS AND MAYBE 
MAKES THINGS A BIT BETTER, THEN 
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
>> Rosemary: WHY NOT. 
>> Vassy: YEAH, WHY NOT, AND 
THAT SEEMS LIKE THE BASIC SORT 
OF EDICT THAT THEY ARE BASING 
THIS DECISION ON.
AS I SAID, I GET THE QUESTIONS 
BECAUSE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS 
HAVE SAID OTHERWISE.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, I FIND THE 
SARS POINT PRETTY INTERESTING 
TOO.
HE'S QUITE RIGHT, MR. GARNEAU, 
THAT SARS WAS VERY CONCENTRATED 
INTO ONTARIO AND BRITISH 
COLUMBIA.
IT WASN'T A WIDESPREAD PANDEMIC 
LIKE WE'RE SEEING WITH COVID-19,
SO PERHAPS THAT'S NOT THE BEST 
MEASURE, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A
NEW VIRUS, SO THEY ARE ADAPTING 
AS THINGS GO ALONG, BUT AS YOU 
SAY, TOTALLY VALID QUESTIONS, 
AND IF IT'S JUST ANOTHER THING 
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEN 
SO BE IT.
CATHERINE, OVER TO YOU.
>> Catherine: I DID THINK IT WAS
INTERESTING, TOO, THAT THE 
MINISTERS WERE ASKED, WELL, WHY 
IS THIS TEMPERATURE CHECK BEING 
PUT IN PLACE.
NOW THERE WAS SOME SUGGESTION 
FROM THE PRIME MINISTER, NOTING 
THAT THIS WAS COMING AT A TIME 
WHERE WE WERE LOOKING MORE AND 
MORE AT REOPENING, AND WE'VE 
HEARD THAT THIS IS GOING TO 
HAPPEN IN A VARIETY OF PHASES, 
PEOPLE COMING INTO CANADA, 
PEOPLE LEAVING CANADA, PEOPLE 
TRAVELLING WITHIN CANADA.
THE SUGGESTION DOES SEEM TO BE 
THAT THIS IS NOT SOME INDICATION
THAT WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF 
REOPENING THE BORDER.
THIS IS NOT WHY THIS IS 
HAPPENING NOW, BUT IT IS SORT OF
MINDFUL OF THE BROADER REOPENING
THAT'S HAPPENING.
JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING 
AS WELL TO HEAR MINISTER DUCLOS 
BEING ASKED TO DEFEND REPEATEDLY
THE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION NOT TO
FURTHER EXPAND THE AMOUNT OF 
TIME -- NOW IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS 
THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS EXPANDING
THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT MEMBERS 
OF THE CANADIAN FORCES WILL BE 
HELPING OUT IN QUEBEC AND 
ONTARIO LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, 
BUT OBVIOUSLY THE DEMAND IS FOR 
MUCH MORE.
MINISTER DUCLOS SAYING WE'VE 
CONTRIBUTED, WE'RE GOING TO BE 
CONTRIBUTING MORE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EFFORT TO
HELP RAMP UP SUPPORT, BUT MORE 
OR LESS THIS IS THE WAY IT'S 
GOING TO BE.
AS YOU SAID, ROSEMARY, WE REALLY
DO WANT TO HEAR HOW QUEBEC'S 
PREMIER IS GOING TO RESPOND TO 
THIS PUBLICLY TODAY, AND ALSO 
WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW XA  
EXACTLY WHAT DOES THAT RAMP-UP 
LOOK LIKE.
ULTIMATELY THE MOST IMPORTANT 
THING, ENSURE THAT THE SENIORS 
LIVING IN THESE LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES CONTINUE TO GET THE 
SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH BOTH VERY MUCH FOR ALL
YOUR HELP WITH THE COVERAGE.
VASSY KAPELOS, YOU CAN WATCH HER
AT 7 EASTERN ON "POWER & 
POLITICS" AND CATHERINE CULLEN 
WILL BE IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS 
THROUGHOUT THE DAY ON VARIOUS 
PLATFORMS.
THANK YOU BOTH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>>> I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE 
MORE STORY BEFORE WE LET YOU GO 
FOR THE DAY, AT LEAST MY PART OF
THE DAY.
SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN YOU 
HEARD THE PRIME MINISTER ALLUDE 
TO THIS AGAIN THIS MORNING, SOME
CHINESE, OTHER ASIAN CANADIANS 
HAVE DEALT WITH RACISM FROM 
PEOPLE BECAUSE THE VIRUS, OF 
COURSE, WAS FIRST DETECTD IN 
CHINA.
LAST WEEK DR. BONNIE HENRY, 
BRITISH COLUMBIA'S CHIEF HEALTH 
OFFICER SAID THE CHINESE 
COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE TO COVID-19
ACTUALLY HELPED SLOW THE SPREAD 
OF THE VIRUS INSIDE THAT 
PROVINCE.
HERE'S A CLIP OF HER.
>> I THINK OUR APPROACH EARLY ON
WHEN WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THE 
INTRODUCTIONS INTO B.C. AND INTO
CANADA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN 
THE WORLD WERE COMING FROM CHINA
WHERE WE WERE WORKING WITH THE 
COMMUNITY, WHERE THE COMMUNITY 
THEMSELVES IN B.C. TOOK THIS 
VERY SERIOUSLY, WHERE WE 
SUPPORTED PEOPLE AND WE TALKED 
ABOUT IT IN JANUARY AND 
FEBRUARY, ABOUT COMMUNITY 
ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT PEOPLE 
COMING FROM CHINA TO 
SELF-ISOLATE, AND WE AND PUBLIC 
HEALTH MADE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO
CAME IN, WHO HAD SYMPTOMS, WERE 
TESTED, THAT WE TARGETED OUR 
TESTING OF PEOPLE WE KNEW WERE 
AT RISK, BUT THAT WE HAD A BROAD
TARGET, TESTING STRATEGY.
>> Rosemary: WELL, DR. KENNETH 
SUNG IS AT THE UNIVERSITY AND HE
JOINS ME NOW FROM VANCOUVER.
NICE TO SEE YOU, DOCTOR.
THANKS FOR MAKING THE TIME.
>> OH, THANK YOU FOR INVITING 
ME.
>> Rosemary: SO WHAT ARE YOUR 
THOUGHTS ON HOW THE 
CHINESE-CANADIAN COMMUNITY 
SPECIFICALLY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
MANAGED, HOW THEY MANAGED TO 
DEAL WITH THE SPREAD OF 
COVID-19, BECAUSE IT WAS, 
ACCORDING TO DR. HENRY AND 
OTHERS, HUGELY EFFECTIVE.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT PROBABLY ONLY 
THE MANAGEMENT.
IT'S BECAUSE MOST OF THE CHINESE
COMMUNITY IN RICHMOND, IN METRO,
THEY HAVE LEARNED FROM THE SARS 
BACK IN 2003.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LEARNED A 
VERY VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, YOU 
KNOW, THAT SELF-ISOLATION, 
SOCIAL DISTANCING IS THE MOST 
EFFECTIVE WAY, COMBINING WITH 
WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC PLACES,
IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO 
PREVENT GETTING AN INFECTION.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE BEEN
ON THE CHINESE MEDIA AS EARLY AS
LATE JANUARY TO SPREAD THE WORDS
THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING ALL OUR 
PARTS TO STOP THIS PANDEMIC FROM
SPREADING INTO THE WHOLE 
COMMUNITY.
SO BECAUSE OF PAST EXPERIENCE 
AND PEOPLE THAT REALLY CARES 
ABOUT LOOKING AT ONE'S SELF AND 
LOOKING AFTER THE FAMILY, AND 
THE CHINESE COMMUNITY IS DOING 
ITS PART.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S INTERESTING 
TO HEAR, THAT THE PREVENTION WAS
ALREADY HAPPENING PERHAPS MUCH 
EARLIER INSIDE THE CHINESE 
COMMUNITIES IN B.C. AND IN 
VANCOUVER THAN IT WAS IN THE 
REST OF THE COUNTRY.
DO YOU THINK SOME OF THAT WAS 
MAYBE ALSO AN AWARENESS THROUGH 
CHINESE MEDIA OF WHAT WAS 
HAPPENING IN CHINA AND IN WUHAN?
>> WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BECAUSE 
THE CHINESE COMMUNITY IN METRO 
VANCOUVER HAS LOTS OF 
CONNECTIONS TO HONG KONG AND TO 
CHINA ALSO.
>> Rosemary: YES, SURE.
>> BY TAPPING INTO OVERSEAS 
MEDIA, MOST OF US EVEN AWARE OF 
THE WUHAN PANDEMIC COMING TO -- 
INTO CANADA AND COMING INTO 
PLACES.
AS A SIDE STORY, I WAS GOING TO 
HONG KONG IN LATE NOVEMBER, AND 
MY CANADIAN RELATIVES ASKED ME 
TO BRING MASKS, YOU KNOW, TO 
THEM BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD A 
SHORTAGE IN HONG KONG ALREADY BY
LATE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
SO WE DO HAVE QUITE VALUABLE 
NEWS THAT THIS IS COMING.
SO WE DID OUR PART TO TRY TO 
MINIMIZE THE PERSON-TO-PERSON 
INFECTION.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, THIS IS SORT 
OF THE POSITIVE PART OF HOW MANY
PEOPLE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY 
DEALT WITH THINGS.
BUT I ONLY HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE 
AND A HALF LEFT, DOCTOR, BUT THE
PRIME MINISTER AGAIN TODAY, AND 
THIS IS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
TIMES HE'S HAD TO SAY IT, BUT 
AGAIN TODAY TALKED ABOUT THE WAY
MANY PEOPLE IN THE CHINESE 
COMMUNITY OR THE ASIAN COMMUNITY
WRIT LARGE HAVE BEEN STIGMATIZED
BY THIS.
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS AROUND 
THAT, THAT IT IS STILL 
HAPPENING, THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL
BEING BADLY TREATED BECAUSE OF 
THE ASSOCIATION WITH THE FACT 
THAT THE VIRUS STARTED IN CHINA?
>> WELL, THE PROBLEM STARTS FROM
THE B.C. GOVERNMENT NOT 
REVEALING THE REGIONAL INFECTION
RATES IN METRO VANCOUVER.
THEY HAVE WITHHELD THE 
INFORMATION THAT THE CHINESE 
COMMUNITY HAS LOWER INFECTION 
RATE, AND BY DOING THAT, PEOPLE,
THEY NOT REALIZE THAT THE 
CHINESE COMMUNITY IS NOT 
CONTRIBUTING TO THE INFECTION.
AND FROM THEN ON, WE CAN SEE 
HATE CRIMES AND DISCRIMINATION 
ESCALATED TO THE POINT THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT HAD TO COME OUT AND 
SAY SOMETHING.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO 
RELEASE ALL THOSE INFORMATION 
ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND FORTUNATELY, ONCE THE 
INFORMATION IS RELEASED, WE 
ALMOST SEE A ROCK STOP OF THE 
HATE CRIMES HAPPENING IN METRO 
VANCOUVER.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, INFORMATION 
HELPS WITH COMBATTING THOSE 
KINDS OF THINGS.
DR. FUNG, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE SO GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO 
GET THIS ON TO THE PROGRAM 
TODAY.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: THANK YOU.
DR. KENNETH FUNG, A CLINICAL 
PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 
BRITISH COLUMBIA'S SCHOOL OF 
POPULATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
>>> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL HAND OVER
OUR COVERAGE NOW.
THAT IS A LIVE SHOT OF TORONTO.
WE'RE EXPECTING THE PREMIER OF 
ONTARIO AT 1:00 EASTERN.
ANDREW NICHOLS WILL PICK UP OUR 
COVERAGE AFTER A SHORT BREAK.
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