>> HAS NOTHING TO DO ALL MALE 
ON BUT YOU ON 
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. 
TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 3RD AND IT 
IS 5 OH ONE AND I DO CALL THIS 
COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING TO 
ORDER. WE ARE IN THE CITY 
CHAMBERS IN THOSE PRESENT ARE 
COMMISSIONER MUCH MYSELF MAYOR 
MCDOWELL VICE MAYOR LUKE 
COMMISSIONER HANKS. 
COMMISSIONER HARRIS OWNER YOU 
JOINING US. YEAH HERE THANK 
YOU VERY MUCH AND WE ALSO HAVE 
SOME ACTING CITY MANAGER CITY 
ATTORNEY CITY CLERK. IF CHIEF 
GARRISON'S BACK THERE. HELLO 
IS SLOW. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF 
CITIZENS AND A LOT OF STAFF. 
THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE REMIND 
EVERYBODY TO PLEASE. I'M 
GISELLE PHONES. AND IF YOU 
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC 
COMMENT MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT 
THIS PUBLIC COMMENT CART AND 
HANDED TO THE OFFICER THAT 
COME AND GO TO COLLEGE YOU. 
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A LOT OF 
PEOPLE HERE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF 
WORK TO DO SO LET'S GET 
STARTED MISS HEATHER IF YOU 
COULD PLEASE JOIN US IN THE 
PLEDGE OF 
♪
♪
WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION 
UNDER GOD. IT FOR ALL. THANK 
YOU. 
>> ALL RIGHTY SO THIS TIME I 
WOULD LIKE TO IF HE APPROVE, 
HOWEVER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 
FROM CITY ATTORNEY ERNIE HOW 
CAN WE THE MILLAGE RATE IF WE 
DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION ON 
BUDGET SHOULDN'T THE BUDGET GO 
FIRST AND THEN THE MILLAGE 
RATE. 
>> I WOULD DEFER TO FINANCE A 
MATURE 
>> IT, KNOW YOU CANNOT PASS A 
THAT IS NOT RIGHT ASK FOR IT'S 
JUST A LITTLE THING I'M TO 
DISCUSS IT AND 
AM AND THAT'S THE MILITIA MEN. 
AS. YOU CAN ASK. 
>> OKAY SO SINCE THIS IS FIRST 
RATING WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE 
CAN COMBINE THE 2 ITEMS AND 
THEN TAKE 2 SEPARATE MOTIONS 
BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS. 
THANK YOU FOR BECAUSE WE CAN'T 
APPROVE THIS MILLAGE TO GO TO 
SECOND READING UNTIL AFTER WE 
TALKED TO A BUDGET TOO SO 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO WITH 
THAT I WOULD GO AHEAD AND 
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 
APPROVING THE AGENDA A MOVE. 
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COMBINE 
THE ITEMS. 
>> I THOUGHT WE WOULD DO THAT 
WHEN WE GOT TO THE OTHER SIDE. 
>> I SO I GOT MOTION ON THE 
FLOOR BY VICE MAYOR TO APPROVE 
THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TO 
MERGE ANYTHING TO THAT VICE 
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER LET'S 
MAKE SURE TECHNOLOGY IS 
WORKING SO WE WILL GO AHEAD 
AND USE OUR VOTING PADS. 
AND 
THAT PASSED 5 TO 0. AT THIS 
TIME. VICE MAYOR DO WE HAVE 
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT GENERAL 
PUBLIC COMMENT WE DO. THANK 
YOU. ALL RIGHT MISTER COLEY IF 
YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP AND 
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE 
RECORD. 
>> TO COMMISSIONERS PLEASE. 
YOU'RE GOING TO A 74 EVERETT 
STREET. IT IS VERY 
DISAPPOINTING QUITE UNSETTLING 
TO ME THAT I MADE ALL 5 OF YOU 
COMMISSIONERS ON AUGUST 11TH. 
IN THAT SENSE BUT SHE THAT THE 
OFFICER JUST NEED TO DO. HER 
BACK UNTIL THE WATER. OR MAYBE 
THE BENTLEY SAID THAT THIS IS 
REPLY WAS QUITE A RELIEF FOR 
YOU OR FOR JUST IGNORE ME. 
LESS THAN THE REGULATIONS 
CONCERNED ME A TAX BASE THAT 
TRULY CARES ABOUT HOW THAT 
GRACE PERIOD IN THE CITIES ON 
RECKLESS SPENDING PROBLEMS YOU 
CONTINUE TO ENDORSE ANY 
COURAGE. 
>> FOR YOU CONCERNED CITIZENS 
OUT THERE THAT 
♪
THE SPREADSHEET MAN WAS TAKEN 
DIRECTLY FROM THE PROPOSED 
2020 21 STATUTE, 
♪
THE CALL. THIS COMMISSION HAS 
BEEN DEBATE. JUST SPEAK TO US 
OKAY WITH WHICH SHE HIGHLIGHTS 
FOR THIS CITY IS REQUESTING 
THAT THIS COMMISSION IS 
STRONGLY CONSIDERING GIVING 
CITY EMPLOYS 8 AND A HALF 
PERCENT RAISES TO HAVE PERCENT 
RAISES. 
>> IN THEIR BASE SALARIES AND 
WAY AND WELL WAGES, INCLUDING 
BENEFITS FOR A TOTAL OF 
47 MILLION DOLLARS NEXT YEAR. 
WELL AS TAXPAYERS GET THE BILL 
FOR. BUT AT LEAST ECONOMIC 
CONDITIONS AS WE REPORTED THAT 
A LIBERAL A VERY GENEROUS WITH 
OUR TAX DON'T YOU THINK. THIS 
COMMISSION CONSIDER WELL LOW, 
THE PROOF A THAT WAS A 
CITYWIDE RACE WAS IS GET THE 
BILL. WHEN YOU WANT TO WE THE 
PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING RAISES 
YEARS WE'VE BUILT OVER 90 
LAYOFFS BUSINESS CLOSES FOR 
THOSE WINTER REDUCE TELLS LIKE 
THAT WHAT DO YOU THINK IT. I 
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO WHAT 
RESPONDING TO A CONCERT. YOU 
FOR 2 WEEKS TO ONE SIDE OF THE 
FACE WITH A FALL TO THE SUPER 
SECRET TELLING THE TRUTH THE 
SIDE OF THE FACE IGNORES US. I 
WAS HOPING TO FACE NOT TO SHOW 
WHAT YOU REALLY THINK THE 
CITIZENS YOU COULD CARE LESS 
ABOUT ASSISTANCE THAT'S THING 
YOU WANT THIS CASE OUR TAX 
DOLLARS. MISTER HANKS THAT'S 
EXACTLY WHAT WE THE PEOPLE 
SENT TO A VERY LOUD MESSAGE AT 
THE BALLOT BOX WE'RE BIG FIRE 
IS ONLY 30 POINTS IN THE 
PRIMARY THAT MESSAGE SHOULD BE 
A WAKE-UP CALL TO GO FOR THE 
BISHOPS. YOU NEVER TURN YOUR 
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PEOPLE 
YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE LIKE 
YOU'VE BEEN TO. 
>> THANK YOU. MISTER 
>> SINCLAIR DO WE HAVE ANY 
ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT OR 
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 
THIS ITEM NOT FOR GENERAL. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
>> ALL RIGHTY SO NOW WE WILL 
MOVE ON TO YOU. THE FIRST 
READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 30. 
>> AND THAT IS 
>> OTHER 
>> PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE ON A 
PARTICULAR ITEM. AND SO IF WE 
COMBINE THESE ITEMS AND IT 
WOULD BE THE TIME TO SPEAK 
SIR. 
>> SO LET'S GET A MOTION TO 
COMBINE ITEMS A AND B 
DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY THEN 
WILL TAKE SEPARATE VOTES, A 
MOVE. MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO 
COMBINE ITEMS, A AND B WHICH 
IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 
30 IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
DASH 31 THAT WAS MOVED BY VICE 
MAYOR SECONDED BY 
COMMISSIONER, I'M RICH. 
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
HEARING NONE WE'LL GO AHEAD 
AND VOTE. AND THAT PASSED 5 TO 
0. SO AT THIS TIME WE WOULD 
NEED A MOTION TO READ 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 30. 
I TIED ONLY AND SECTION. 3 B. 
AND THEN 2020 DASH 30 BY TITLE 
ONLY I MEAN 31 BITE I DON'T 
CLEAR THE CLERK. THEY SAY THE 
WRONG SECTION NUMBER I 
APOLOGIZE. SHE TOO YEAH, I 
JUST SAID THE WRONG ONE SAID 
OKAY FOR THE MOTION MAKER IN 
SECOND OR IT IS. YES, THANK 
YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT 
ANYTHING TO THAT ANYBODY. 
LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE TO 
TAKE THE VOTE. 
AND THAT PASSED 
5 TO 0 CITY CLERK AT THAT. 
>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 
30 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY 
OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA 
PROVIDING FOR CERTIFICATION 
AND ADOPTION OF AN APPLE OR 
MILLAGE RATE FOR THE 2020 DASH 
21. THE SCHOOL YEAR PROVIDING 
FOR LEVYING AN ASSESSMENT 
RIGHT FOR SEVERABILITY 
PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX 
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE 
SECTION 2 LEVYING AN 
ASSESSMENT. 2.0 1. THERE IS 
HEREBY LEVIED AND ASSESSED A 
TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY 
REAL PERSONAL WITHIN THE 
CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY 
OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA EXCEPT 
HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AS 
DEFINED IN ARTICLE 10 OF THE 
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF 
FLORIDA AS AMENDED. IT IS NOW 
OR SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR BY 
GENERAL LAW AS FOLLOWS THE 
GENERAL GOVERNMENT 
APPROPRIATIONS FOR OPERATING 
EXPENSES AND EXPENDITURES 
CONTAINED IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 31. IT ACTS MILLAGE 
RATE OF 3.8 2, 4, 0, WHICH 
REPRESENTS A 4.2 0% INCREASE 
OVER THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE 
OF 3.6 6, 9, 9, THE REASONS 
I'VE LEARNED TAX REVENUES ARE 
INCREASING ARE DUE MAINLY TO 
ADDITIONAL POSITIONS PLANNING 
AND ZONING NEEDS RELATING TO 
THE ACTIVITY CENTER OVERLAY 
AND INTERACTIVE GROWTH MODEL 
ON TRACK TO SERVICES FOR 
PARKS, MAINTENANCE AND FUTURE 
RIGHT HE NEEDS FOR RACING SAND 
REPLACEMENT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 31. AN ORDINANCE OF 
THE FL ADOPTING A NON-DISTRICT 
BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 
BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE 2020 
ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 3020 21, 
ADOPTING THE CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRAM 
STRIVING THE TERM CONDITIONS 
AND PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO 
THE ITEMS OF APPROPRIATION AND 
THEIR PAYMENT PROVIDING FOR 
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS 
EVERY APPROPRIATIONS PROVIDING 
FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR 
SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN 
EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH CITY CLERK. WRIGHT CITY 
MANAGER LET'S GET IT STARTED. 
>> IT'S ALL OF THAT I'M GOING 
FIND STRICTER. 
>> ANYTHING CAN FARRELL 
FINANCE DIRECTOR. WOULD YOU 
LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND START 
WITH 30 OR 31 OR DOES IT 
MATTER, BUT SHE'D LIKE WHAT 
YOU DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST 
TO AHEAD AND START WITH SO 
THIS ITEM. AS YOU'LL RECALL ON 
JULY 23RD. THE COMMISSION SAID 
THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE IS 
3.8 7, 3, 5, 
♪
THIS ITEM PROPOSES A MILLAGE. 
BASED ON YOUR FURTHER 
DIRECTION AND BASED ON CITY 
PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS I DON'T 
PROPOSE IS A MILLAGE OF 3.8 2, 
4, 0, THIS RATE IS LOWER THAN 
2019 2020. ADOPTED MILLAGE 
RATE OF 3.8 7, 3, YOU'LL FIND 
TO THIS ITEM BOTH THE 
ORDINANCE AND THE FUND 
BALANCE. ANALYSIS. IF YOU 
TAKING A LOOK AT THE FUND 
BALANCE NOW SAYS THAT WILL 
SHOW YOU THAT UNDER THE 
CURRENT THIS MILLAGE AND THE 
CURRENT PLANS FOR THE BUDGET 
IF IT'S AN ACT KNOWN AS IS 
WE'LL BE UTILIZING $579,210 
FROM FUND BALANCE AND THAT 
WILL ONLY FUND BALANCE AT A 
PROJECTED 23.0 1%. OF THE 
BUDGET EXPENDITURES. IN EXCESS 
OF THE 20%. SHE'S ON THIS 
ITEM. 
>> YOU WANT TO COMBINE BOTH OF 
YOUR PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE 
GET IS JUST OK DO OUR 
QUESTIONS AND EXCELLENT LEE. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH A OF THE 
NEXT I 2020 31. 
>> THIS IS FOR THE ADOPTION 
EFFECTED ON THIS WILL BE ADOPT 
THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 1021 
NONDISTRICT BUDGET AND CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. YOUR CALL 
THAT WE HAD BUDGET WORKSHOPS 
ON JUNE, 1617 18. THE SECOND 
ROUND OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS ON 
JULY 21ST AND 22ND OUR AUGUST 
17. ALL THE CHANGES MADE IN 
THOSE WORKSHOPS HAVE BEEN 
INCORPORATE INCORPORATED INTO 
THIS BUDGET. APPROVAL AT THIS 
WILL MOVE THAT FORWARD TO THE 
SECOND READING YOU WILL TO THE 
ITEM YOU'LL FIND AGAIN THE 
ORDINANCE. EXHIBIT A WHICH IS 
A BUDGET SUMMARY. EXHIBIT B 
WHICH IS THE CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THE 
ATTACHMENT IS THE CHANGES 
SINCE AUGUST 17TH, SO AS A 
RESULT OF THAT LAST WORKSHOP 
IS ARE ALL THE CHANGES THAT 
WERE MADE SUBSEQUENT INJURING 
THAT. AND THEN THE FINAL IS A 
LIST OF. PRIORITIZE BUDGET 
PROPOSALS. THESE ARE ITEMS 
THAT WERE UNFUNDED. DURING AND 
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT JULY 17TH 
WORKSHOP THERE AND FUNDED. 
THESE ARE THE ORDER WE WILL BE 
REQUESTING TO ADDING THAT HAVE 
THEM BACK IN 2021 GIVEN BETTER 
REVENUES THAN WE EXPECTED. 
♪
OR JUST GIVEN 
♪
THE OPPORTUNITY THIS IS ORDER 
WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOSE 
ITEMS BACK. FURTHER QUESTIONS 
ON THIS ITEM. 
>> PRESENTATION FANTASTIC. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO SO 
WITH THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE 
QUESTIONS AND QUESTIONS ONLY. 
WOULD LIKE TO START YOUR 
MISSION OR SO AND I CAN SEE 
YOU. 
>> I PUT THE LITTLE I IS THEIR 
REQUEST A BIG NOT SURE YET 
THAT. 
>> OH MY DISSIPATED. ALL 
RIGHT. MY MIND JUST. IT'S THE 
HOME THE TOP LOVED AND OF 
COURSE. ALL OF THIS ONE RIGHT. 
MINE WENT TO SLEEP SORRY ABOUT 
THAT. IS A SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE 
GUYS IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT 
TO GET USED TO IT SORRY. ALL 
RIGHT COMMISSIONER HARRISON GO 
AHEAD PLEASE YOU HAVE THE 
FLOOR. 
>> OKAY AND I'M SURE WORD LEFT 
HERE B 20 THE ON DOWN THERE 
WITH THE FUND OR BEING MILLION 
AND THE AUDIT IS UNBALANCED. 
>> DOES THAT NOW OR THE OVER 
1 MILLION THAT WILL GO BACK 
THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
YEAH, YEAH. 
>> YOU'RE IN THE YOU NEED 
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD 
MAKE SURE YOUR MIKE IS ON 
PLEASE. 
>> THE SERMON BUT 
ADMINISTRATOR THAT'S THE 
AUDITED BEEN BALANCE AS OF 9 
3090. 
>> SO DO WE HAVE. A REASONABLE 
AND YOU KNOW A BETTER IDEA OF 
HOW MUCH WILL GO BACK INTO 
THAT ON BALANCE AT THE END OF 
THE YEAR. LAST MEETING IS AT 
1 MILLION APPROXIMATELY THOUGH 
THIS YEAR IS AS IF YOU HAD A 
BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT THAT 
WOULD BE I WOULD BE 
COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT A 
MILLION DOLLARS WILL GO BACK. 
>> BUT I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY 
AT THIS POINT TO PROJECT THE 
EXACT NUMBER. 
>> I JUST KNOW FROM OK SO IT 
AIRED AND THEN A MILLION WILL 
GO BACK THAT PORT IN KIND OF 
COMES INTO OKAY, SO. 
>> ON BALANCE. 
>> WE'RE IN THE EMERGENCY 
RELIEF. CONTINGENCY IS 
REQUIRED TO BE AT 20% OR UP TO 
24 EARTH. 
>> KNOW THERE HAVE AN AN 
AMENDMENT POLICY COMING BACK 
TO YOU LEAVE US ALONE, 17. SO 
YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE 20%. I 
RESERVED FOR CONTENDERS 
EMERGENCY DISASTER. 
>> BUT THEN BE ABOVE THAT. I'M 
SORRY. 
>> YOU HAVE THE 20% THAT'S 
REQUIRED THE CURRENT POLICY 
REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL 5 TO 
10%. THE POLICY IN THE WORLD 
WHY WILL JUST BE AND THAT WILL 
BE IS THAT RIGHT MANDIBLE 
REQUIREMENT OF FOR THAT SECOND 
LEVEL. I DON'T. 
>> REALLY WANT TO KNOW IT SURE 
ALICE EVE BECAUSE I HAVE TO 
WORK OFF OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY 
IN EXIST IN. 
>> WELL MAYBE I DO MAYBE I DO 
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT AT 
THE 20%. THAT MAY ACTUALLY ALL 
THERE WITH THE NEW. 
>> ALL OF THE F POINT BE 
PREVENTED IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE 
SAYING THE 20% WERE MADE 
SAYING SEE ADDITIONAL 5 TO 10% 
THAT WILL NOW UP TO 10% RATHER 
THAN A SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 
5.10%. 
>> AND GET THAT FAR BUT THOUGH 
THE 23 WHAT I GUESS WHAT I'M 
TRYING TO GET A 20% THAT. 
>> IT IS. 
>> NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU 
LOOK AT IT AND MILLION IS HAS 
STARTED THAT 20%. 
>> YES AND BE 1.5 MILLION IN 
IS 
>> ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR 
ECONOMIC STABILITY AND MOUNT. 
IS LIKE. 
>> LESS THAN 5% FOR SURE 
CORRECT THAT WOULD REPRESENT A 
3.0 1% THAT YOU SEE WHERE 
ABOUT THE 20% REQUIREMENT. I'M 
SORRY WOULD YOU SAY WAS 3.1 
3.0 ONE C THE BOTTOM LINE ON 
THE REPORT IS 23.0 1. 
>> WE HAVE OUR 20% REQUIREMENT 
THAT 1.5 MILLION WOULD 
REPRESENT THE 3.0 1 AND WE'RE 
ABOVE THAT 20%. 
>> O CAIN AS SOON AS YOU LAND 
THERE IN THAT I DIDN'T EVEN 
KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT THAT WAY. 
THE ERRATICALLY WE HAVE 
ANOTHER MILLION GOING BACK TO 
BALANCE. 
>> OR YEAR WILL GO OR AFTER 
OCTOBER. 
>> AND WE DON'T USE ANYTHING 
OTHER THAN WHAT AND 
RECOMMENDED. IT WILL 
ESSENTIALLY BE. 
>> 2.5 MILLION OVER THE 20% 
CORRECT. NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO 
GO TO YOU. 
THAT'S IT. THIS THAT WE'RE 
TAKING NOW. 
>> AND I PRAY TO GOD I'M 
READING THIS FRONT IS VERY 
VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE 
HAD AND VERY I'M A LITTLE BIT 
YOU LOOK AT THAT. 
>> YOU TRY AND SPEAK UP JUST A 
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU YOU'RE 
LIKE GETTING FURTHER AND 
FURTHER AWAY. 
>> THAT IS SHUFFLING PAPERS 
OKAY, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 
BUDGET ADJUSTMENT IN AUGUST 
7TH EEN. THAT PAPER. WHERE HAS 
THE BEGINNING REVENUE TOTAL 
AND THEN IT AS THOUGH IT ALL. 
OKAY THEY ARE OKAY JUST WANT 
TO MAKE SURE IN THERE. IT'S 
OKAY OFF OF SO WE'RE TALKING 
BACK IN HE WORKED NOW. 
>> HE WHERE WAS IT 
>> DICK EXAMINER FOR THE 
POLICE DEPARTMENT AT 28,000. 
THAT I ADAMANTLY NEEDED. 
ASHLEY IS ENTERING. SOME OF 
THE ACT THAT WE'VE JUST 
RECENTLY TODAY AND GET OUR 
KIDS BACK MIAMI BEACH WHERE 
THE ATTACK. SO I THOUGHT THAT 
MAYBE THAT WAY. THAT WENT OR. 
>> MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THE 
EFFECT THAT POLICE COME DOWN. 
AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER BUT 
SHE COME DOWN AN ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTION MA'AM. 
>> THANK YOU I AS I UNDERSTAND 
IT THESE WERE THINGS THAT THEY 
ABSOLUTELY LIVE WITHOUT AREA. 
AND SO HALF AN HOUR IN. 
>> COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT 
QUESTION FOR CHIEF HARRISON. 
>> YEAH THERE ISN'T AN FUNDING 
OF 1633 COMPUTER FORENSIC 
EXAMINER IT UNDER THE PLEA TO 
$28,830 A NIGHT ONLY WE'RE 
THAT. THE CONVERSATION WAS 
DURING ALL THE FIBER 
THAT THIS WAS NEEDED 
EDITION AND ME I'M GETTING IT 
IS WITH SOMETHING BUT. YOU 
KNOW GIVEN ALL THE NEW HYBRID 
ACTS AND WE'VE JUST HEARD OF. 
JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS 
ACTUALLY MORE NEEDED AND. 
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. 
>> YOUR SON CHIEF OF POLICE SO 
THIS POSITION IS NOT ONE THAT 
WOULD HANDLE CYBERATTACKS THIS 
POSITION IS A EXAMINER OR 
ELECTRONIC. THE PLACES. IT'S 
WE NEED LOOK AT CELL PHONE TO 
LET UP IN ELECTRONIC DEVICE. 
>> THIS EXAMINER WOULD 
FORENSIC EXAMINED THAT 
MATERIAL. 
>> NOW THAT MAKE THEN THAT'S 
WHY AND I MIGHT BE CONFUSING 
IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE BUT 
OKAY THAT ONE AND THEN THE 
NECK IS SPECIAL THE PAPER 
FLYNN. 
>> WE HAD 7,000 PLUS BEING 
REVIEWED THAT BECAUSE YOU 
THINK THERE'S LEFT. 
>> BE LIKE GAMES IN AN 
IMMUNITY GATHERINGS THAT 
QUESTION IF THEY WOULD BE 
NEEDED. 
>> IT'S BEEN. 
>> RIGHT ABOVE THE ON. THAT 
THAT THAT WAS REVENUE KNOW 
THAT THIS THIS SPECIALLY PACED 
NOT ALL BAY. THIS IS SPECIAL 
TO PAY WITH THE CBA. 
>> SO WE KNEW WE WERE LOOKING 
TO ADD FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS 
>> OR THEY ARE FOR. HE'S SO 
BOTH OF THESE WERE IN ADDITION 
TO WHAT WE HAVE A FIELD 
TRAINING AND OTHER TRAINING 
TREATS POX. 
>> OKAY, OKAY. 
>> COMMISSIONER ARE SOME YOU 
KNOW COMMISSIONER JUMP OFF OF 
THIS ONE. 
>> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY IT WAS 
JUST ANSWERED. I WAS IN THE 
IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS FOR 
LIKE SOME OF EXTRA PAY OF THE 
BRAVES STADIUM. I WAS REVENUE 
NEUTRAL AND I JUST WANT TO 
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A BUDGET 
IN CASE WE NEEDED IT BECAUSE 
WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY ELSE 
HELPING US OUT THERE THIS IS 
TIED INTO THE CBA THAT IF I 
HAVE SO WHAT IS SEPIA. 
>> THAT'S THE COLLECTIVE 
BARGAINING AGREEMENT, YOU CAN 
CONTRACT SO BASICALLY BY HAD 
FTO OR SOMEBODY THAT WAS DOING 
TRAINING. THE CONTRACT HAVE TO 
COMPENSATE THEM, ESPECIALLY. 
YOU DON'T PERCENT US AS BEING 
AN ULTIMATE ME DISH PUSHED 
OUT. IT CAN BE I MEAN IT ISN'T 
ME, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT. WE WANT 
TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO SO WE 
NEED TO PUSH OUT HERE. WE HIT 
THE BACK OF NEXT YEAR WILL. 
>> COMMISSIONER HARRIS AND I 
KNOW YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR 
COMMISSIONER LUKE WOULD LIKE 
TO JUMP OFF ON THIS ITEM 2 
ABSOLUTELY GET AHEAD. 
COMMISSIONER LUKE. 
>> THAT'S I ON THE SAME PAGE 
WITH COMMISSIONER KERIK ZONE. 
SHE WAS THINKING MAYBE ANOTHER 
DIRECTION ON HIS COMPUTER 
FORENSIC. THERE'S BEEN A LOT 
OF STINGS DONE LATELY FOR. 
SEXUAL TRAFFICKING AND STUFF 
AND THAT PERTAINS TO COMPUTERS 
AND I KNOW THE COMPUTER WORK 
TRYING TO GET THROUGH THESE 
FORENSIC ON ALL THE COMPUTERS 
AND PHONES IS TIME CONSUMING 
AND YOU GUYS ARE STACKED UP 
RIGHT NOW IN NEED THE HELP. I 
SEE THIS POSITION HAS 
DEFINITELY BE UNWARRANTED. 
NOW. NOT NEXT YEAR. SO I'M IN 
AGREEMENT WITH WHAT SHE'S 
DOING AND. I'LL SPEAK TO YOU 
KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT 
OVERALL WHEN SHE IS COMPLETE. 
I'M NOT ON BOARD WITH THIS 
BEING PUT INTO THE BUDGET. 
THANK YOU. 
>> I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE GO 
AHEAD COMMISSIONER, SO YOU'VE 
GOT THE FLOOR BACK. 
>> THANK CRIME LEAST. 
THEN YOU KNOW THESE EXPLAIN 
THIS ONE. I AT THIS IT WAS 
ABSOLUTELY. ONE THING WE 
NEEDED. 
>> SO WE WE DO HAVE ONE CRIME 
ANALYST AND THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT NOW IT SHE IS 
EXTREMELY OVERLOADED WITH THE 
WORKLOAD IS COMING THROUGH. 
>> YOU VERY SO I MEAN ME. 
>> YOU KNOW IT IS LIKE IF IF 
SHE'S GONE OR SHE'S OUT. AND I 
HAVE NOBODY ELSE TO RELY ON 
TO. HOLD THIS DEBT. IT'S TOUGH 
FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROBLEMS 
THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. 
>> K. ANYONE JUMPING OFF OF 
THAT ONE AND MOVE 
>> NOT THAT I SAY THANK YOU 
AMANDA I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH 
YOU THOUGH. 
>> MY LAST ONE BUT I PROMISE 
ALL I LEFT TO GO. 
>> THE LEAF IS THE ADDITION. 
RENTAL ONLY SAYS THAT 1000. 
WHAT DOES THAT REMOVE PLEASE. 
>> AND THAT WAS THE BENDERSON 
PROJECT THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU 
GUYS AND WE ARE CIRCLING BACK 
ON THAT AND THAT THAT WAS CUT 
BECAUSE OF THAT. 
>> OKAY THIS IS ACTUALLY IN 
THIS AND SHOW ALL ESSENTIALLY 
A WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION 
ABOUT. DOING SOMETHING A 
LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT THAT 
THAT THAT IS THAT OKAY, YES, 
MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU 
BILL HAD. 
>> THE CAPABILITY OF THINGS 
>> I DON'T IN. 
>> SORT OF OR WHATEVER IT IS 
THAT ARIE THE NEXT YEAR. WHILE 
WE EVALUATE THAT WITH WHATEVER 
IT WAS THAT WE HAD MADE THAT 
DECISION ON COOK, I'M HOPING. 
>> WE WERE MAKING DO WITH WHAT 
WE HAD SITE BUT WE'RE WORK 
WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT. 
>> AND THINK THING IS WE ALSO 
HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX. 
GO OUT WEST VILLAGES THAT WILL 
HAVE SOME STORAGE CAPABILITY 
AS WELL. 
>> OK THANK DOUBLE YOUR 
>> I'M NOT SURE IF AT ALL WILL 
THAT EVEN HANDLE A THING AND 
WE HAD A OR YOU THERE ARE 
SOME. 
>> IF I IF I REMEMBER 
CORRECTLY IT WAS DESCRIBED THE 
PORTION OF THAT BILL THAT IS 
DESCRIBED AS THE SIZE OF A 
CLOSET, SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF 
SPACE BAD 
>> O K. ALL I GUESS I AND 
DON'T KNOW IF THERE AND LET 
SOMEONE ELSE. 
>> I 
>> SO I AT THIS COMMISSIONER 
CAROUSEL AND SINCE WE'RE KIND 
OF GOING THROUGH EACH ITEM. 
AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ARE YOU 
WANTING TO MAKE MOTION 
TO DO ANYTHING WITH WHAT YOU 
JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
>> YEAH, I HAD ONE MORE ALL HE 
EVER DID HAVE ONE MORE THING, 
I'M SORRY LET'S TAKE 
INDIVIDUAL OUT. 
>> NO IT WAS 
>> IF THERE'S A VACANCY 
REDUCTION RE. 
>> YOU KNOW 194,580. WAS BASED 
OFF OF THE USUAL CALCULATION 
THAT WE YEARS NOW. I WORK 
KELLY THIS WAS NOT LIKE YEARS 
AGO. 
AND THE BACK WE DIDN'T HAVE. 
YOU KNOW NEW HIRES LIKE WE'RE 
HAVING IN AND WE DIDN'T 
IMPLEMENT MOST THINGS THAT 
WE'VE DONE THE FIRST THAT UP. 
>> MY IS IS THAT IS THAT A 
LITTLE EYE. WHAT IS YOUR 
THOUGHT. 
>> I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT 
BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE THAT 
THAT'S COMING OFF OPEN 
POSITIONS. THEY CAN POSITIONS. 
WHICH YOU KNOW. 
>> IF WE I'M JUST 
>> WONDERING IS IT WAS A GREAT 
194,000. THAT WOULD BE MORE 
LIKE IT BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT 3 
POSITION. 
>> WOULD BE. 
>> THEY CAN ON AN ANNUAL 
THING. THE QUESTION AND ON 
THAT KIND OF POSITION BUT YOU 
WANT THAT IN 
>> ON ONE SECOND COMMISSIONER 
SO WE'RE GETTING 
REINFORCEMENTS TO ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTION. 
IT'S THOUGHT TO BE HAD. CHIEF 
THERE SINCE CONFIRMED WITH 
JOHN. 
>> IT POSITIONS 47,000 PLUS 
BASICALLY IT'S GOING TO WAIT 
TILL ABOUT 2 POSITIONS. 
>> SO IF I MIGHT IF WE READ IS 
THAT ONE 94. YOU FEEL 
CONFIDENT THAT ON AN ANNUAL 
>> IF THE NATION WITH THE BIG 
HIT. 
>> YOU KNOW WE'RE NEVER GOING 
TO HAVE ALL OUR POSITION ALL 
THAT TIME TRYING TO GET AT. OK 
CAN I GET I GET WORRIED THAT. 
>> I WAS ISSUE AND IS NOT 
REALLY REAL LEFT THAT AFTER 
THEM. THAT'S WHY I'M WORRIED 
ABOUT THE NUMBER. OKAY. 
>> I WEIGH FOR SOME. 
ABSOLUTELY YEAH I THINK THAT 
STAFF WENT THROUGH THEIR 
VACANCY REDUCTION VERY 
DILIGENTLY AND VERY CAREFULLY 
AND THIS IS WHAT STAFF ALL 
CAME UP WITH IN CONCURRED 
WITH. 
>> WORKING WITH THE STAFF 
FINANCE DEPARTMENT CITY 
MANAGER SO I THINK THERE 
COMFORTABLE WITH THESE NUMBERS 
ARE ALSO WOULDN'T PRESENTED 
THESE NUMBERS TO US. 
>> WELL I JUST HAD A WITH 
FINANCE DIRECTOR AND MATT IS 
NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD. 
>> YES, MA'AM AND IF WE IN 
ACTUALLY BASED ACTUAL MAKING 
SOME NUMBERS. 
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT 
HIGHER. 
>> OKAY. IF YOU HAD BASED 
ACTUAL BIG IN THE NUMBERS. 
YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT WOULD 
HAVE BEEN. MORE THE 94 5 
WHATEVER BEING REDUCED FROM 
THE FIGHT THAT CORRECT. OK BUT 
THAT THAT IS AND. IN THE PAST 
THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
>> THAT WAS THE AVERAGE OF THE 
LAST 5 YEARS. 
>> NOW AT LAST OKAY, YEAH WELL 
I BELIEVE THE OTHER ONE. AGAIN 
I'M JUST AND BECAUSE NOW THAT 
WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING HIRES 
IN IT WERE ADDING POSITIONS 
THAT ARE REQUIRE THAT. THAT I 
DID NOT REALLY TRULY AFTER A 
OF WHAT IT MAY 
BE IT. IF YOU WANT TO OK SO 
I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'M READY 
FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 
>> YOU WANT THEM IN MOTION 
MAYOR DE WE DO EACH EACH ONE 
THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE DO IT 
BY WHEN DO IT BY A MOTION. 
>> I THINK BEFORE WE DO THESE 
BECAUSE WE'RE DOING MOTIONS. 
KIND OF LIKE AGAINST THE WAY 
WE USUALLY DO TRYING TO. 
EXPEDITE THIS CONVERSATION AND 
NOT HAVE THINGS GET LOST. WHAT 
WE COULD DO IT BEFORE WE START 
WITH YOUR FIRST MOTION IS IS 
HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
>> AND THEN HAVE YOUR MOTION 
AND AT THE FINISH UP AND THEN 
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANOTHER 
COMMISSIONER IN REPEAT THAT 
PROCESS AND THAT SEEMS TO BE 
OKAY WITH THE REST OF THE 
BOARD. 
>> I WE ALREADY ON THEIR 
THOUGH THAT WAS GENERAL PUBLIC 
COMMENT, THERE'S PUBLIC 
>> AND ALL 
>> THIS MY TAKE ON THIS. THERE 
ARE THINGS THAT I WANT TO 
SPEAK TO IN REGARDS TO THIS 
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 
SHE HAS BROUGHT UP. AND SO I 
CAN'T REALLY. MAKE A DECISION 
ON THE MOTION PRESENTED AT 
THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE WE 
HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK 
INDIVIDUALLY AND THE POLICE 
OFFICER POSITIONS THAT SHE IS 
BROUGHT OUT. I HAVE SOMETHING 
ELSE WITHIN MY THINKING ALSO. 
SO I WOULD LIKE A FULL 
DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC BEFORE 
WE MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. 
>> I JUST WAS MEAN THERE I CAN 
TAKE CARE OF SOME. 
>> ALL RIGHT BY MAYOR MAKES A 
GREAT POINT. BECAUSE THERE'S 
SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO 
REVIEW THAT WOULD BE CUT AND 
OFTEN 80'S ADDED EXPENDITURES 
SO I GET WHAT YOU SAY, AND 
FAMILY ACTUALLY WHAT I'M 
SAYING 
>> COMMISSIONER SO YOU'RE 
GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP TRACK TO 
MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET YOUR 
YOUR WISHES IN A MOTION AT 
SOME POINT. 
>> ALRIGHT OF ONE OF THE I ALL 
RIGHT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING 
ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK 
ABOUT BEFORE I TURNED IT OVER 
TO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER. 
>> I THINK I HAVE A LOT BUT I 
WANT TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT 
FOR YOU IN FACT WHAT YOU SAID 
YOU WANTED TO HEAR PUBLIC 
COMMENT THOUGH I WAS HERE 
PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN NOW BE 
MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE 
ON. 
>> AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I 
WAS GOING TO HEAR PUBLIC 
COMMENTS WAS TO SEE TO HAVE 
PUBLIC HEARD BEFORE ANY 
MOTIONS WERE MADE. 
>> SO. 
>> IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE 
BOARD WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST 
HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AND 
CONTINUE ON WITH OUR 
DISCUSSION BUT OF WORK ASKING 
QUESTIONS AND NOT DOING ANY 
MOTIONS MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST 
WAIT UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE THE 
MOTIONS. 
>> I WOULD ADD THAT TO THE 
BOARD WHAT HE HAS LEARNED AND 
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE 
BOARD WHAT IS THE WELL OF THE 
BOARD YOU WANT TO HEAR PUBLIC 
COMMENT NOW WE DO WANT TO WAIT 
UNTIL AFTER AFTER ALL THE 
QUESTIONS ARE DON. 
>> MISTER MUCH. 
>> ALL GOING THROUGH THIS 
PROCESS THIS IS THE WAY THAT I 
WOULD FOR TALKING ABOUT POLICE 
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 
POSSIBLY PUTTING AND MOTIONS 
AND SOMETHING BACK TAKEN SOME 
NOW WE SHOULD LISTEN TO PUBLIC 
COMMENT FIRST AND THEN GO BY 
THEIR DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT 
BY DEPARTMENT THROUGH THIS 
BUDGET. SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE 
MOTIONS WHILE THOSE IDEAS ARE 
FRESH IN OUR MIND WE CAN GO 2 
HOURS LATER AND ALL WHAT ARE 
WE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY SO I 
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SORT OF 
IN A BOX TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE 
FORWARD. AND THAT'S JUST MY 
OPINION COMMISSIONER HANKS. 
>> MISSION OF VICE MAYOR I'D 
LIKE TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND 
HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT 
NOW. OR THE BUDGET AND OR. WE 
JUST GOT FINAL THE FINAL ONE 
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY SO I 
HAVE PAUL CALE. 
>> ALL FEELS JOKES. 
>> ALL YOU COULD PLEASE COME 
TO THE FRONT AND JUST MAKE 
SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR 
THE RECORD HE'S. I STAYED OUT 
OF THAT MASK. 
>> MY NAME IS PAUL CALLE 
RESIDENT AT THE OASIS IN WEST 
VILLAGES. I'M ALSO THE 
CO-CHAIR OF WAS STILL LITTERS 
A RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT I'VE 
COME TO CLEAR UP SOME 
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHY WE 
FORMED OUR ORGANIZATION OF 
WHAT AND WHO WE REPRESENT. AS 
IN OUR NEIGHBORS AT WEST 
VILLAGE IS NOT WELL IM PARK. 
WE DO NOT REPRESENT GRANDPA 
NORTH SARASOTA NATIONAL. 
THEY'RE NOT THE CITY OF NORTH 
PORT AND DON'T NEED OUR HELP. 
WE DO REPRESENT OVER 2000 
VOTERS IN WEST VILLAGES AND 
YET MORE RESIDENTS OR NOT 
REGISTERED VOTERS OR WHERE IT 
NOT YET SIGNED PETITIONS BUT 
HER SUPPORTERS IN OTHER WAYS. 
THE NEXT MISCONCEPTION IS THAT 
PORT HAS INVESTED HUNDREDS OF 
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WEST 
VILLAGES, THE ONLY MENTION OF 
ANY ASSET NORTH PORT MAYOR 
WITH WEST VILLAGES 
COMMISSIONER AND MISTER I WILL 
START YOUR TIME. 
>> YOU'RE NOT USING TIME. 
COMMISSIONER KARSON THE PUBLIC 
COMMENT WAS BEING HEARD IS 
THERE SOMETHING. 
>> URGENT THAT NOTHING TO DO 
WITH THE BUDGET. IT IS A 
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH 
SHOULD BE HEARD AT THE END. 
>> I WAS. 
>> GETTING TO THAT I WAS 
HOPING HE WAS GOING TO GET TO 
THE BUDGET PORTION OF HIS 
PUBLIC COMMENT. 
>> I WILL GET TO THAT NEXT. 
>> THANK YOU BECAUSE THIS IS 
AN AGENDA ITEM ONLY SPECIFIC 
SO I THANK YOU. AHEAD WE'LL 
START YOUR TIME AGAIN OKAY. 
>> THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS 
ONLY 52 MEN ON THE BOOKS AS A 
GIFT THAT GIFT IS FROM THE 
TAXPAYERS OF WEST VILLAGES PAY 
FOR EXCLUSIVELY BY WAS VOTERS. 
SO THIS CONCEPTIONS WAS DOING 
JUST RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT 
WAS TO SEPARATE SOLELY ON THE 
BASIS OF INCREASED COSTS WE 
PAY THE CITY VERSUS THE 
COUNTY. WELL THE REPORT 
RECENTLY HAD MISSED A 
REQUESTED BY THE CITY MANAGER 
CLEARLY SHOWS THAT NORTH 
ORDERS INCLUDING WAS VILLAGERS 
PASS SUBSTANTIAL EXTRA COST TO 
BE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE A MORE 
CHRIS PRESSING CONCERN WE 
BELIEVE THE CITY IS NOT 
DESIGNED TO REMAIN FISCALLY 
INDEPENDENT. ARTICLE TITLED 
THE FISCAL IMPACT OF LAND USE 
ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT 
UNIVERSE GEORGE IT AND THAT A 
SINGLE INSTANCE THAT 
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT 
GENERATE SUFFICIENT REVENUE TO 
COVER ITS ASSOCIATE 
EXPENDITURES. 17 DIFFERENT 
STUDIES, INCLUDING ONE OF 
FLORIDA, RESEARCHERS FOUND 
THAT FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR IN 
TAX REVENUE COLLECTED A 
RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYER. NEWS 
FROM THE DOLLAR TO $2.11 
CENSUS SERVICES PROVIDED BY 
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WHEREAS 
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL 
TAXPAYERS USE A NICKEL. TO A 
DOLLAR FOR AND SERVICES FOR 
EVERY DOLLAR PAID. THE 
CONCLUSION THAT IN COMMUNITIES 
ARE NOT ECONOMICALLY 
SUSTAINABLE EVERY SUNDAY 
LIKELY TO BE LEVIED NORTH PORT 
IS CONSIDERED A BEDROOM 
COMMUNITY THAT IS A PROBLEM 
AND SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES 
AND IN FLORIDA ESTABLISHED BY 
GENERAL DEVELOPMENT 
CORPORATION SOL. IT IS HOLDING 
THEMSELVES AND JOINING THEIR 
RESPECTIVE COUNTIES. NORTH 
PORT YOU CONSIDER THE SAME 
ACTION. NORTH PORT MANAGE 
THEIR WAY OUT OF THE SITUATION 
LAST YEAR AT A TOWN HALL FOR 
WEST VILLAGES. I ASKED MANAGER 
THERE WHEN THE THE $1200 WAS 
IT 
>> YOU NEED TO PLEASE KEEP IT 
FOCUSED ON THE BUDGET 
OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE YOUR 
PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END 
THAT'S MORE GENERAL AND 
BROUGHT THESE KEEP IT FOCUSED 
ON THE BUDGET. OK THANK YOU. 
>> THERE ARE MANY OTHER 
EXAMPLES OF SUCH NONSENSE, 
INCLUDING THE CURRENT BUDGET 
PROPOSAL WHICH LOOKS TO GIVE 
AN AVERAGE PERIODS OF 10% OF 
ALL EMPLOYEES, I GUESS THAT'S 
A HALF PERCENT NOW. AND THE 
CURRENT SITUATION WITH MANY 9 
GOVERNMENT WORKERS HAVING LOST 
JOBS LOST INCOME AND MANY 
BUSINESSES EITHER STRAPPED OR 
OUT OF BUSINESS. IT IS THE 
CLEAREST POSSIBLE STATEMENT 
THAT WE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE 
GOVERNED BY PORT. I THINK YOU 
HAVE TO RELIVE WHAT YOU'RE 
DOING YOU CAN'T GIVE A 10% PAY 
RAISE IS WHEN THE REST OF THE 
ECONOMY'S IN THE TANK. IT JUST 
DOESN'T MAKE A LICK OF SENSE. 
♪
THANK YOU 
♪
MISTER KYLE. MR. STOKES. 
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR 
THE RECORD AND. 
>> MY NAME IS PHIL STOKES 
EVERY VILLAGE AND THEY CIRCLE 
IN THE WEST VILLAGES. I LISTEN 
TO THE ENTIRE 6 OUR BUDGET 
MEETING THIS COMMISSION HELD A 
FEW WEEKS AGO. AND MY TAKE 
AWAY WAS YOU STILL DON'T HEAR 
US. FACED WITH A 2 AND A HALF 
MILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL IN 
GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND A 
LIKE AMOUNT SURTAX YOU TOOK 
THE EASY WAY OUT BY LOOKING TO 
USE A RAINY DAY RESERVE FUNDS 
TO COVER MOST OF THE DEFICIT 
WITHOUT SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCING 
OUR TAXES. WELL GRANTED THE 
RESERVE FUND SYRIA TO ASSIST 
IN THE EVENT OF EXTRAORDINARY 
CHALLENGES. BUT CERTAINLY WE 
FIND OURSELVES IN THESE DAYS. 
THIS COMMISSION CHOSE TO 
IGNORE THE FACT THAT CONTINUES 
TO EXIST IN OUR CITY BUDGET. 
YOU HIGHLIGHTED NUMEROUS JOBS 
THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR A 
YEAR OR MORE AND STILL 
COULDN'T BRING OURSELVES TO 
ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT IF WE 
LIVED WITHOUT FILLING THESE 
POSITIONS FOR THIS LAW. WE 
COULD LIVE WITHOUT THEM GO 
FORWARD AT LEAST UNTIL TIMES 
GET BETTER REVENUES BOUNCE 
BACK. IF ROSE YOUR OWN 
SALARIES, A COMMENDABLE 
DECISION BUT REFUSED TO FREEZE 
OR WHEN I RING AND THE 
SALARIES AND NONUNION WORKERS. 
YOU REFUSED TO SEND THE CITY 
MANAGER IN THIS DEPARTMENT 
HEADS BACK TO THE CUTTING ROOM 
TO IDENTIFY AND CHAPEL, NON 
ESSENTIAL EXPENSES. WELL 
MISTER EMMER AND THEY ARE 
WITHOUT PEER TO SOMEWHAT BE 
AWARE OF OR NEED TO REDUCE 
TAXES TO PROVIDE SOME 
FINANCIAL RELIEF TO NORTH PORT 
TAXPAYERS. COMMISSIONERS 
COURSE OWN AND LOU, JUST DON'T 
SEEM TO REALIZE THAT WE THE 
PEOPLE YOU WORK FOR THEM AND 
DEEP CUTS, MR. HAGUE SAID 
VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO SAY OVER 
TO 6 HOURS APPEARING THE LEFT 
IN THE INTEREST AT ALL. 
COMMISSIONERS. THE CITIZENS OF 
PORT WANT OUR TAXES LOWERED. 
WE WANT ALL NON ESSENTIAL JOBS 
ELIMINATED. WE WANT HIRING 
FREEZES UNTIL TIMES GET 
BETTER. WE PRESENTLY UNFILLED 
POSITIONS BECAUSE OF THE 
BUDGET. WE WANT SALARY FREEZES 
FOR CITY JOBS. WE WANT ALL 
NONESSENTIAL PROJECTS 
THROUGHOUT THE CITY CURTAILED 
UNTIL REVENUES BOUNCE BACK. WE 
WANT EVERY DOLLAR REPORT 
COMING OUT OF THIS BUDGET. WE 
WANT A MILLAGE RATE WHICH 
WOULD RESULT IN REAL TAXPAYER 
SAVINGS. WE WANT OUR CITY 
COMMISSION OF TOWN MANAGEMENT. 
HERE ARE DEMAND THAT YOU FOLKS 
WHO WORK FOR US DO YOUR JOBS 
AND LISTEN TO THE WILL OF THE 
PEOPLE. THE GUARDIANS OF OUR 
TAX DOLLARS AND HAVE THE 
FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION TO SPEND 
THEM IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER. 
IF REST ASSURED, WE'LL FIND 
PEOPLE TO REPLACE YOU WILL. 
THANK YOU. MISTER STOKES. 
>> MAYOR THAT HE PUBLICLY 
COMMENT AND NO ONE 2ND 
COMMISSIONER CARSON 
COMMISSIONER, BUT WHAT WE SAY 
ABOUT THE OKAY NOW I WANT 
MISSION OR CARE SOME HOLD ON A 
SECOND. 
>> JUST FOR CLARITY WHAT IS 
THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN 
RAISES FOR EMPLOYEES OF HER 
10% EFFORT A HALF. WHAT'S THE 
ACTUAL NUMBER. 
>> AGAIN LOUDER WE CAN HEAR. 
1, 1, TO FIND YOUR GOAL THAT 
WOULD BE BOUGHT. NOT A. 
>> AND A HALF APART HIM, OK 
JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE I'M 
NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH 
ANYBODY, BUT THERE IS. NO 
TRUCE OUT THERE TOO SO WE'RE 
LOOKING AT 5 LET'S TALK ABOUT 
5. COMMISSIONER MUCH 
COMMISSIONER SO. 
>> YEAH I WANT TO I WANT TO 
ADDRESS THE WHOLE PERSON LIKE 
ACT THAT I DID NOTHING AT THE 
LAUGH MISSION BUDGET HEARING 
BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THAT 
LAIR AREAS IT SEEMS LIKE 
SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT THE 
WRONG MEETING BECAUSE I WAS 
THE ONE ACTUALLY THAT THE 
ENTIRE SAYING AND. ALTHOUGH AT 
LIVE 8 IN THE RATE. WE HAVE 
GOT IT HAS IN FACT LEE WHAT 
WAS AT WORK. SO FIND IT, GARY. 
IT'S RESPECTFUL. ACTIVATION 
THAT WE ALL THAT BACK AND DID 
NOT. AND IT JUST AGGRAVATES 
BECAUSE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF 
THE LIE. 
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SOME 
ALL RIGHT SO NOW THAT MADE IT 
YOU HAVE HAVE A COMMENT. THANK 
YOU VERY MUCH. IT ISN'T FROM A 
EAST. I'M FOLLOWING UP WITH 
THE STATUS. THE HAIR 
MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS PUT 
IN PLACE IN YOUR 20. A 2004 
THE 44 ACRE SCRIPT ANGER FOR 
TOWARDS CONSERVATION AREA. AS 
YOU WILL RECALL IT MAY. IT WAS 
MAY OF 2019 AT THIS ISSUE WAS 
BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND 
IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 STAFF 
ADVISED THAT THE DELL 
DEVELOPER HAVE RENAMED ON HITS 
OBLIGATIONS AT THAT POINT YOU 
THE COMMISSION STATED THE 
DEVELOPER NEEDED FOLLOW 
THROUGH WITH THE DEVELOPMENT 
ORDERS. MEANWHILE HAS BEEN 
APPROXIMATELY 7 MONTHS SINCE 
THAT MEETING WHICH INCLUDED 
THAT DIRECTIVE AND MANY 
CONCERNED IS NO EFFORT HAS 
BEEN MADE BY THE DEVELOPER TO 
RIGHT THE WRONG. 6 
CONVENIENTLY INTO THE FACT 
THAT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT 
NEEDS A NATURAL RESOURCE 
DEPARTMENT. PARENTS CREEKS 
DIRECTIVES, ONE ON CHECK WHAT 
ELSE HAS BEEN EVER LEFT ARE 
THE LAKES AND HAIR GREAT BEING 
PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF ARE 
THEY BEING MONITORED FOR WATER 
QUALITY WHAT ABOUT THE RUNOFF 
THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE 
GOING INTO THE CITY'S CANALS 
WHICH IS LOADED WITH NUTRIENTS 
FROM THE RECLAIMED WATER THEY 
USE. 
>> WE REALLY MUST KEEP THE 
CANALS HEALTHY WHAT ABOUT 
OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WHO IS 
MONITORING THEM AND WHAT ABOUT 
FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. IMAGINE 
HAD THERE BEEN A NATURAL 
RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AT THE 
TIME HERE BIG DEVELOPMENT WAS 
FIRST INITIATED OVERSIGHT 
WOULD HAVE STARTED THAT 
INSTEAD HERE WE ARE 20 YEARS 
LATER TRYING TO CORRECT THAT 
SITUATION AND TODAY, THE 
QUESTION REMAINS WHEN WILL 
THAT HAPPEN AS FOR HAVING A 
NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT 
BESIDES MONITORING DEVELOPMENT 
PLEASE NOTE COULD SERVE IN 
OTHER AREAS. FOR EXAMPLE 
MANAGEMENT OF LAND. THESE KNOW 
THERE IS GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE 
FOR SUCH THING THAT LAND 
RESTORATION OF MANAGEMENT. AND 
IF IT'S CO-FOUNDED WORKING 
WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION EVEN 
MORE FUNDING OPTIONS ARE 
AVAILABLE. FUNDING COME FROM 
THE LIKES OF SWIFT MY AND 
NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE 
FOUNDATION AND FOR PROTECTING 
WATER THERE'S. THE WATER 
RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT ACT W OR 
D A AND SHE ATTACH THEIR 
WEBSITE. MY THINKING LAND 
MANAGEMENT ONE MONTH AT ONE 
MUST ASK WHO WILL MANAGE THE 
MYAKKA HACK SHE CREATE 
ENVIRONMENTAL PARK 
SPRING HAVEN WILDLIFE CORRIDOR 
OR THE MYAKKA HAD TO CREATE 
WHEN YOU'RE PARK, ESPECIALLY 
WANTS THOSE LOTS ARE REQUIRED. 
THE NATURAL RESOURCE 
DEPARTMENT COULD START WITH 
ONE EMPLOYEE TO BE BROUGHT. TO 
BE THE OVERSIGHT NEEDED BUT TO 
ALSO PURSUE SUCH GRANTS IT IS 
OBVIOUS. THE CURRENT STAFF'S 
NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE SECTION 
OVERLOAD. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S 
HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING UP 
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ALONE. 
IT'S IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, WE'RE 
CARING FOR WITHOUT A HEALTHY 
ENVIRONMENT. THE CITY OF THE 
CITY OR FLORIDA FOR THAT 
MATTER CANNOT ULTIMATELY HAVE 
A HEALTHY ECONOMY, I'M LIKE 
FOR MORE INFORMATION FEEL FREE 
TO CONTACT HER YEARS AT THE 
FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF 
ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONALS. 
THANK YOU CITY CLERK WAS THERE 
ANY OTHERS. THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH. 
>> SO DAN COMMENT GO AHEAD OF 
THAT WAS NOT I MEAN THAT WAS A 
GENERAL ONLY COMMENT THAT 
WASN'T PERTAINING TO THE ITEM. 
WE DO HAVE NOTHER GENERAL 
COMMENT ON ITEM OR. THAT IS 
THAT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT 
COMMENTS THAT JUST YOU KNOW 
PUT ON HER REQUEST THAT IT WAS 
FOR THE ORDINANCE THAT'S WHY 
IT'S SO I FIGURED IT WENT TO 
THAT. 
>> NATIONAL RESOURCES 
DEPARTMENT BUT GOING TO READ 
IT. I JUST WANTED TO LET 
CITIZEN IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW 
LIKE THAT ONE WAS READ AND NOT 
THEIRS. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAD LEFT 
OFF WITH COMMISSIONER PARIS IF 
YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR 
DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WHAT 
I WANT. 
>> I WANT TO DO AS I THERE AND 
JUST I THINK IT'S A SMART 
LET'S JUST WAIT UNTIL WE GET. 
YOU KNOW IT ALL HASH NOW AND 
THEN IT WILL SHOW THAT ONE 
WASHES THE OTHER. 
>> I'M MOVING ON 
>> A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I 
WANT TO WITH THE SAME AGE. 
>> AND I ASKED A BOW. 
>> THE E 3 COMMITTEE MANAGER 
OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICE IS 
THAT $3,000. 
>> IS THERE SOMETHING IF THEY 
THINK THAT WAS A BIG OR IS IT 
JUST THE GENERAL. 
>> IS THAT THE REAL ESTATE. 
>> NOW I'M SHEET OF PAPER HAS 
THE SAME AREA. 
>> KERRY MAY BE ABLE TO THE 
LIKE. ONE. 
>> I HAVE THE DETAILS. WE'LL 
HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK BACK. 
THERE IS A COUPLE LINES TO 
BEND STRATEGIC PLANNING OR 
COULD THEN SOME OF OUR 
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. 
RECOGNIZE THAT WE MAY 
>> AND AGAIN COMMISSIONER KARA 
SO I THINK THAT STAFF WENT 
THROUGH THEIR MISCELLANEOUS 
ITEMS IN CUT THINGS THAT THEY 
THOUGHT COULD BE CUT AND THEY 
AGREED TO THESE CUTS OH YEAH I 
HEARD THAT. 
>> OKAY NEXT IS 
>> I'M FINDING THAT PROTECTIVE 
MEASURES THAT ANYTHING WILL IT 
EASE. 
>> I 1000 THAT WOULD BECAUSE 
THERE'S NO LINE LOOKED AT 
>> I'M SORRY WERE YOU LOOKING. 
>> AT THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 2 AND 
PAGE. 
BUDGET PROPOSAL NUMBER 1678. 
YEAH THAT'S $5,000. 
♪
SHE'S AND GRUNTING. 
♪
>> FOR HER. 
>> YOU'RE ASKING WHAT THAT WAS 
BUDGETED FOR. 
>> IT SAYS THE PROTECTIVE 
MEASURES AT CITY FACILITIES 
THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS AND I 
THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS AND THE 
SECURITY ISSUE. 
>> GET IT OUT FOR YOU 
COMMISSIONER CARES ON THIS 
PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. 
>> THIS IS FOR AT CITY 
FACILITIES THIS WAS FOR SO 
THESE MAINTENANCE. WE HAVE 
STARTED IN SOME OF VARIOUS 
BUILDINGS TO GO IN AND MAKE 
LIKE TOUCH RESTROOM BUT YOU 
KNOW STILL A TEASE. DIFFERENT 
THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF 
COVID SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO 
PUT OFF TILL THE FOLLOWING 
YEAR. THAT WAS A REDUCTION IN 
FORCE TO LIBBY'S MAINTENANCE. 
IT SAYS PUBLIC WORKS BUT IT'S 
ACTUALLY UNDER DEPARTMENT BUT 
ACTUALLY WITHIN THE DIVISION 
OF FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE. 
THESE ARE VARIOUS FACILITIES, 
MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WE 
REDUCED. 
>> THAT MUCH I UNDERSTAND IT 
WAS 5,000 CORRECT. YES, MA'AM 
5,000. 
>> AND THAT WAS GOING TO ADD A 
TOUCH TOUCH 
>> I THINK THAT'S THINGS. 
OKAY. I GOT TO THINK ABOUT 
THAT ONE DOESN'T MEAN THAT 
YOUR YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT 
DEVICES ON THE DOORS SO THAT 
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE 
DOOR HANDLES THOSE TYPES OF 
ITEMS. THANKS AND. 
>> IF I GOT ANY OTHER PUBLIC 
WORKS GOOD FOR PUBLIC ALL 
RIGHT AND THEN THE OTHER ONE 
SOCIAL SERVICE IS. I'M A IN 
WHAT LOOKS LIKE OR $1150 FOR 
CHILDREN'S WHAT IS 
>> YOU HAVE A BUDGET PROPOSAL 
NUMBER. I SEE YOU KNOW JUST IN 
GENERAL THE PROBLEM. I GOT I 
GOT IT IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM 
IN THE HTE BUT. 
♪
♪
4 4150. 
>> COMMISSIONER HARRIS AND IS 
IT 4150. 
>> YEAH I MY QUESTION IS WHAT 
DOES THAT MEAN WHAT ARE WE 
LEAVING. 
>> AFTER AN EVERYONE, THIS IS 
YEARS SOCIAL SERVICES MANAGER. 
>> THAT 4150 
>> SORRY. 
>> IT'S OUT OF OUR CHILDREN 
SERVICES AND THOSE ARE. 
>> REDUCTIONS THAT WE MADE IN 
ORDER TO CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT 
AT THE BUDGET IN OUR ANNUAL 
EVENTS SO THIS WOULD BE HER 
BABY SHOWER OR BACK TO SCHOOL 
RESOURCE FAIR. 
>> OVER THE HOLIDAYS. WE ARE 
WARY OF THAT. YES MA'AM. 
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE WERE 
IT IS THE SERVICE IS IN THOSE 
EVENTS. 
>> NOT NECESSARILY REDUCE THE 
SERVICES BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD 
WORK ON GETTING THE DONATIONS 
FOR THEM. WE WENT OFF OF WHAT 
WE'VE BEEN CURRENTLY SPENDING 
IN THOSE AREAS AND THAT'S THE 
REDUCTION. 
>> THEN WE GO OKAY THIS IS 
THAT YES IS IT THE REAL 
REDUCTIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU 
OVER THE YEARS ON WHOA THE 41 
FT. 
>> YES, MA'AM IT'S A REJECTION 
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT EXPANDING 
THAT. 
>> I LIKE THE YEAR. OKAY. 
>> AND THAT'S SECTION THERE 
IS. 
>> NEXT IS I T. AND THAT 
CONFERENCE OF WHAT MITT 
UPGRADES I THOUGHT THAT THAT 
WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF 
A NET AFTER WAS. THERE COMING 
UP. 
>> WELL ON IN THE CITY 
MANAGER'S BUDGET WE SHOULD 
ABOUT EU COMMISSION PUBLISHES 
WITH ITS THE BUDGET COMES AS 
THE GOVERNMENT AND WE ALSO OF 
2012 OFFICE TO SO TOTAL 
$3,000. CITIZENS OF YORK. 
>> OWEN THANK YOU. 
>> THEIR CRIMES ARE TEAM 
MANAGER BE AB CONFERENCE AND 
VIDEO EQUIPMENT IS FOR ONE OF 
THE CONFERENCE ROOMS ON THE 
3RD FLOOR. AND WE DECIDED THAT 
THERE ARE OPTIONS AVAILABLE 
AND THAT THEY COULD VOTE 
ANOTHER ROOM. 
>> WONDER OK, OK AND NOW LEFT 
IN AND THE VIRTUAL LIFE AND 
SAYS I THOUGHT THOSE ARE KIND 
OF A 
>> AND THIS PARTICULAR 
INSTANCE, IT WAS TO HAS FUTURE 
CAPABILITIES. AND TO A 
DIRECTION WE WANT TO MOVE 
TOWARD. IT IS NOT A NECESSITY 
TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR. 
>> I. 
>> ALL RIGHT 
>> LIKE THERE IS ONE OTHER 
THING. I THINK THAT'S IT RIGHT 
HE. 
>> AND THEN I ONE THING FOR 
PAR. AND THAT IS BE IT HAS 
DECREASED ELECTRIC AND ROUGH 
AIR. AND MAINTENANCE OR MARINA 
OR. MY CONCERN IS. ARE THERE 
ITEMS THAT ARE READYING THIS 
THE REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED OR 
IS THAT ONE OF THOSE FEELS 
LIKE SOCIAL SERVICE IS THAT IT 
ACTUALLY FELL UNDER THE 2000. 
>> THIS IS SANDY PFUNDHELLER 
SECTION OF CREATION DIRECTOR. 
>> AND THAT IS ACTUALLY 
RELATED TO THE NEW RESTROOM 
AND WILL BE AT THAT PARK AND 
BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH. 
THAT PROJECT. 
>> WE DON'T FEEL THAT WILL BE 
INSTALLED UNTIL A LITTLE BIT 
LATER IN THE YEAR. SO THAT'S 
WHY WE DO SPOT. THAT'S THE AND 
MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE PART OF 
THAT AND RUSH FROM. 
>> OKAY. AND PASS IT. 
>> AND THEN THE UNDER 
RECOGNITION IS KIND OF FELT 
THAT WHEN A STORY AND THAT'S 
ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED 
BUT YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT NOW 
MOVING ON THINGS. AND PARKING 
NOW I'LL GO IN THERE AND HEARD 
ON PARK, I'M SORRY GOT SOME 
RIGHT. 
>> THE CUT I. 
>> IF WE REALLY NEED 
>> ALL THESE I GUESS THAT YOU 
KNOW WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THAT I 
HAVEN'T 
SEEN ANY EDITIONS CUT. A LOT 
OF POSITIONS THAT WERE CUT. 
>> BECAUSE THE INNER LOCAL 
>> AND THAT'S ALREADY BEING IN 
THE NEW PROPOSED BUDGET RACK. 
AND YOU KNOW. UNFORTUNATELY 
ARE HTE VERSION DOESN'T REALLY 
BREAK THINGS DOWN BUT HERE'S 
AN BE A LOT OUR E AND. I DON'T 
KNOW. 
>> MANAGER AND. 
>> THAT'S THAT. 
>> IN THEORY WE 
>> NEED IT. 
>> THERE. 
>> I LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY HOW 
MANY BOYS YOU HAVE IT THAT 
WAY. 
>> WE'VE GOT 41 THAT ARE YEAR 
ROUND. SEASONAL FOR SUMMER 
CAMP AND FOR THE AQUATIC 
CENTER. AND YOU'RE AROUND 
WOULD BE BOTH FULL-TIME AND 
PART-TIME. 
>> OKAY. NO I PART OF THE YEAH 
PROGRAM DIRECTOR. 
>> SOME OF THEM ARE 
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CAMP 
PROGRAMS. YES. 
>> IF WE WERE TO CUT HER CAMP 
NOW. 
AND ALLOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR 
TO DO THAT. HOW MUCH ARE WE 
GOING TO SAY. AND YOU DON'T 
HAVE ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW YOU 
IN. I'M BACK LATER WITH IT I 
KNOW THAT PROBABLY A 
CALCULATION. 
>> SOME CAN ACTUALLY MEANS IF 
CONVERSATION WERE LOOKING FOR 
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IF YOU'RE 
GOING TO TAKE OUT THE WHOLE 
PROGRAM, IT'S IT'S KIND OF. 
SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE 
BUDGETS, THERE'S DIFFERENT 
ACCOUNTS BUT THAT REALLY ISN'T 
ALL REVENUE NEUTRAL PROGRAM. 
I'M WE COVER OUR DIRECT AND 
INDIRECT COSTS FOR SUMMER 
CAMP. 
>> EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING 
FOR THANK YOU. IN SHORT WITH 
NOT THEY'VE ANYTHING BY 
REMOVING SUMMER CORRECT. 
>> YOU MIGHT OUT AND DOLLARS 
OR 
>> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR 
YOUR LAST QUESTION. 
>> I THINK YOU MAY SAVE A 
$1000 THERE MAY BE SOME SORT 
OF A OR SOMETHING BUT IT'S NOT 
GOING TO BE WHAT. IN THE 
BUDGET. BECAUSE IT'S REVENUE 
NEUTRAL. AND ON THE RECORD. 
>> AND PARK I THANK YOU FOR 
ALL YOU'VE WITH THE WHOLE 
INNER LOCAL OR SHUNNED. 
>> THANK YOU. INSURANCE. WE 
PUT ANY MONEY IN THE HEALTH 
INSURANCE 
♪
♪
>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIGURE 
OUT. 
>> WINTER IS COMING DOWN. YEAH 
I WAS GETTING UP WALKING THIS 
WAY. 
>> AND RUNNING AWAY OR JUST 
BEGINNING TO BE. THERE'S 
TIMES. 
>> FOR THE RECORD ACTRESS 
DOING THE HUMAN RESOURCE 
DIRECTOR OF I'M WAITING FOR MY 
MANAGER TOOK THE MATCH MAY 
HAVE YOUR FORECAST SO WE'LL 
GET THAT FOR YOU. 
>> IN PAYING YOU FOR. 
>> SO COMMISSIONER HARRISON 
AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO HEAR 
CONFIRMATION FROM STAFF I HAD 
ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND I 
THINK IT WAS JUNE OR JULY 
DURING ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS 
AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD 
FIGURED 9 AND A HALF PERCENT 
TO GO BACK INTO THE RESERVES 
WHICH EQUATED TO ABOUT 
$60,000. CURRENTLY THERE'S 
ABOUT $900,000 IN THEY ON. I 
CAN GET TO THAT AGE IF YOU 
WANT TO THE BUDGET. 
>> WE'RE STRIVING FOR 1.5 NOW. 
WE'RE STILL UNDER THE BUCKET. 
>> IF YOU GO TO PAGE 85 IN THE 
ACTUAL BUDGET BOOK THAT WE 
WERE GIVEN IN 
>> ALL I CAN. 
>> 85 IS THE SELF INSURANCE 
MEDICAL FUN PAGE. ITS STAFF IS 
HERE NOW SO I TOOK UP ENOUGH 
TIME FOR THEM TO COME DOWN. 
NICELY DONE THERE YOU GO ONE 
MORE STEP OR SUMMER BEFORE 
REACH OUR GOAL. ALL RIGHT WE 
WILL GET IT. 
>> AMY 
>> HEARD. 
>> A 
>> THERE'S STILL THERE'S A 
HEAVY COST TOO. 
>> OKAY ON 85, IT HAS. 
>> HIS FIRST SERVICE 
MISCELLANEOUS FOR NOT TELLING 
ME HOW MUCH. 
>> IT'S PUTTING IN THERE. SHE 
I'M. DAY I MEAN AND. OTHERS OR 
IS IF ONLY NEAR. IT'S NOT 
REALLY TELLING ME HOW MUCH 
WE'RE PUTTING 
BACK IN AND IT BE 
>> I'M 100 NAVY. $1150. 
>> OKAY, THEY'RE CONVERSING. 
OKAY. 
>> AND I JUST MOVE ON WE DON'T 
I THINK THAT YOUR ANSWER NOW 
BY CHRISTINE MCDADE AGAIN 
WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT 
INFORMATION FOR YOU I WANT TO 
MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ACCURATE 
NUMBER. SO I'M GOING TO WORK 
ON THAT. 
>> OKAY OKAY, I'M REMEMBERING 
THE SAME THING THAT THE MAYOR 
WAS THAT THERE WAS LIKE A 6.5 
INCREASE IT CAPTIVE 8% WHICH 
WAS THE ONE 0.5 WHICH EQUATED 
TO $60,000. AGAIN IT TOOK IT 
UP TO I'M 100 AND SOME 1000 I 
BELIEVE WE'RE STRIVING TO HAVE 
ONE POINT I MEAN SO THERE'S A 
SMALLER INCREASE THAN LAST 
YEAR BUT. I BELIEVE THERE IS A 
1.5 INCREASE TO THANK YOU. 
>> MISTER CHAIR, SO YOU WANT 
TO KNOW WHO WON WHILE THEY. 
>> YEAH 
>> 85 THAT THE MAYOR HAD 
REFLECT IT IS NOT KNOWING THAT 
AT LEAST I DON'T REALLY HAVE 
>> OK MOVING ON YOU CODE 
ENFORCEMENT KNOW MY FAVORITE. 
HOW MANY COULD OR NOT THERE'S 
WE HAVE NOW. 
>> IT 
>> IT EVEN CAN REDUCE THE 
MEASURE, BUT OF COURSE THAT 
PRESENTLY AND WE HAVE 4 WITH 
PLAYED FOR 5 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 
4. 
>> OKAY AND THAT NUMBER 5 IN 
THE PROPOSED BUDGET RACK. 
>> AS FOR. 
>> OK 
>> AND NOW I NEED TO KNOW 
WHERE THAT WOULD BE. REFLECT 
IT IN VERSION WHICH IS 
PROBABLY MORE OF A FINE AIR. 
>> I'M OR STATION. IT'S NOT 
ENOUGH TO GET WAS PROMOTING 
MAN AND IT'S ACTUALLY MILE 
THAT CLARIFIED SOME I THINK SO 
THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY 
EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE IN CODE 
ENFORCEMENT KNOW. 
>> HOW MANY CODE ENFORCEMENT 
OFFICERS DO WE HAVE. 
>> SO BEFORE WE HAVE 4 WERE 
SLATED FOR 5 MY POSITION I GOT 
PROMOTED AND STILL MAKE RIGHT 
NOW OK WE NEED YOU WE NEED OF 
ARMY, SO THAT I KNOW I DON'T 
KNOW IT'S OK. 
>> THOSE SINCE WE HAVE ONE 
VACANCY CAN WE NOT I'M JUST 
WONDERING HOW MUCH WOULD WE 
STAY BY REDUCING IT DOWN TO 
THE OR. 
>> THAT WOULD BE A. 
>> QUESTION PER BIENNIUM. 
♪
♪
>> GETTING ATTENTION. 
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TIME, 
I KNOW IT'S A LAST MINUTE. 
>> MISSION OR SOMEONE YOU'RE 
FINISHED WITH THIS GETTING 
YOUR ANSWER COMMISSIONER MUCH 
WOULD LIKE TO HOP ON THAT. 
>> THAT SUBJECT A FEW WHITE 
ONLY WHAT. 
>> AND REAL QUICK YEAH, BUT 
COMMISSIONER MUCH CURRENTLY 
WHAT ARE WE AT WITH CODE 
ENFORCEMENT ARE WE PROACTIVE 
OR REACTIVE. SIR OKAY. 
>> SO. 
>> MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE AN 
IMPACT ON CUTTING IT DOWN TO 
OR I JUST BECOMING REACTIVE 
AND THEN JUST WAITING FOR. I'M 
ON BOARD WITH THAT AS WELL. 
>> 56,310. 56,310 IS THE IS IT 
SO IMPORTANT OFFICE INCLUDING 
BENEFITS OR IS THAT JUST 
SELLING. I DID YOU HEAR THAT 
COMMISSIONER PIERSON. 
>> I ONLY HEARD THEM NUMBER 
BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE BENEFITS 
AND SALARY. 
>> YES, IT DOES. 
>> WITH A TOTAL OF 50 THAT 
THAT IS 3.10 NOT INCLUDING 
BENEFITS IN SIGHT, THOUGH, AND 
ALL THAT YES. I LIKE THAT. 
OKAY WHICH MEANT. 
>> I OK THANK YOU. 
>> AND A. 
>> MY VERY LAST ONE IN 
DEPARTMENT. 
>> WAS. 
♪
AND THAT IS I'M WHEN YOU'RE 
WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO COME TO 
THE PODIUM, BUT I GUESS YOU 
BUT NOT THEIR DESIGN. YEAH 
RIGHT I WAS LOOKING 
>> I MEAN HOW I I INSTALLED 
THIS IS BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING 
AT LAST YEAR'S WORTH OF THIS 
YEAR AND I KNOW THAT I KIND 
OF. WANTED BE IN YOUR NECK IS 
SECRETARY AND RETURN WE GOT TO 
ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR THE 
QUESTION WITH THOUGH I'M 
WONDERING DO WE HONESTLY NEED 
NEW ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE 
ACTUALLY AND WE GET AWAY WITH 
>> WE CUT CUTTING STAFF 
ASSISTANT ONE POSITION ALREADY 
IN THE FRONT. 
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THAT 
WAS ONLY FAKING IT. 
>> THAT'S A SPY MISSION. 
>> IS LEAVING. YES WE ARE NOT 
THAT. 
>> SO WE REALLY NEED IN AND 
MISTREATED NATIONALIST. 
>> COVER ALL THAT THAT'S THAT 
WAS DOING THAT WE'RE GOING TO 
HAVE TO BUT ON TO DEPARTMENT 
WE WOULD NEED TO KEEP. THIS IS 
WE HAVE A SHE'S HER POSITION 
IS GONE. 
>> HERE'S WHAT MONEY. AS I 
UNDERSTOOD AND IT THE POSITION 
THAT WE IS MUCH LEFT AND ONE 
OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF 
POSITIONS. KNOW. ISN'T THERE 
DIFFERENCE IN THE GALLERY. WHY 
WOULDN'T WE REMAIN ONE. 
ADMINISTRATIVE THERE IS. 
>> IN JUST I OR ANOTHER. AND 
LONG. AND BELIEVE THERE'S 
ALMOST A $35,000 DIFFERENT. 
MAYBE 30. 
>> SO YEAH IT WAS PRIOR 
COMMISSION DIRECTION TO REMOVE 
THE STAFF ASSISTANT ONE SO 
THAT'S WHAT WE CAN. 
>> WELL I MISSION OR I MEAN 
IT'S WORTH CONVERSATION, YOU 
TELL ME. 
>> MAY I SPEAK MUCH MER I 
THINK WITH THE REORGANIZATION 
ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THIS 
YEAR NOT HAVING A DEPUTY CLERK 
AT THIS POINT IN IN THE 
SHOPPING OF THE DUTIES. THAT 
IS GOING TO BE LIFTED FROM SUE 
HIM GO ON TO OTHERS. I THINK 
THAT STAFF ON LEVEL NEEDED OR 
NECESSARY AT THIS POINT IN 
TIME. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT. 
THAT POSITION JUST SITTING 
THERE ANSWERING PHONES NEEDS 
TO BE ADDRESSED AND I WOULD 
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE. 
ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT HOW 
OF ANSWERING TELEPHONES ARE 
DONE. I DON'T KNOWS THE 
CLERK'S DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE 
THE CITY OPERATOR I THINK 
THAT'S A POOR USE OF THEIR 
TIME AND TALENTS SO THAT'S MY 
THOUGHTS I. 
>> I WAS MERELY TRYING TO SAVE 
THE $30,000 BY GOING BACK TO 
WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY AND 
THEN REMOVING THE APP AND 
>> AT ALL. 
>> HONESTLY I'D RATHER DO AWAY 
WITH THE DEPUTY CLERK AND I 
WITH THOSE 2 WE HAVE SITTING 
ON THE DAIS RIGHT NOW SOMEBODY 
IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS 
AND SHE HAS APPEARED UNCOVERED 
WHAT A DEPUTY CLERK WOULD DO 
SEVERAL TIMES LATELY AND THE 
POSITION OF DEPUTY CLERK PAYS 
MORE THAN THE THE CLERK IS 
SITTING ON THE DAIS SO IF YOU 
WANT TO REMOVE A POSITION WE 
HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER TO 
SEE IF THEY REMOVE IT IS A 
CHARTER OFFICER, BUT I'D 
RATHER DO AWAY WITH THE HIGHER 
PAID FOR. 
>> AND IF I CAN SPEAK TO THAT 
WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ASSISTANT 
CITY CLERK IN CASE SOMETHING 
HAPPENS TO THE CITY CLERK OR 
SHE'S OUT OF A COMMISSION SO 
SOMEBODY CAN STEP UP AND FILL 
THE RANKS IN HER 
>> SHE THEY HAVE DONE IT. WE 
HAVEN'T HAD A DEPUTY CLERK FOR 
QUITE A WHILE AND THE CLERK 
WHEN SHE CAN'T BE HERE HAS 
APPOINTED SOMEBODY TO TAKE I 
WAS LOOKING AT A HIGHER TICKET 
PHYSICIANS PERSONALLY MYSELF I 
THINK THAT CONVERSATION WITH 
THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK HIS IS A 
MOOT POINT AT THIS POINT WE 
HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE 
REFERENDUM AND CITY CLERK 
YOU'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN THIS. 
>> I DO NOT SUGGEST REMOVING 
THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK 
POSITION, YES SITTING UP HERE 
IN A MEETING COVERING AS A 
SMALL PORTION OF THE DEPUTY 
CITY CLERK POSITION TASKS. 
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HR TO 
REVISE THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION 
FOR THAT POSITION A LITTLE BIT 
AND NONE OF THOSE DESCRIPTIONS 
AND THERE ANYTHING IN A 
STRAIGHT OF ASSISTANCE. IT WAS 
AND OUR OFFICE RIGHT NOW. 
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A 
CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER, 
ANYTHING COMMISSIONER SOME. 
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO I 
KNOW A A. 
>> I THINK A PURSE FROM A 
THING THAT I LIKE THE PUT BACK 
IN. NOW. YOU KNOW I THINK I'M 
GOING TO YIELD AND ALL WOW 
EVERYONE ELSE THAT 
>> IF THEIR DEAL 
>> YEAH, I MEAN A WEEK LATER 
RIGHT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, 
SOME VICE MAYOR YOU HAVE TO GO 
AHEAD PLEASE. 
>> A POSITION THAT. 
>> WAS ORIGINALLY NOT THROUGH 
THE CITY MANAGER. BUT WE AS A 
COMMISSION PUT IT IN. I WOULD 
LIKE TO SEE THAT ONE 
ELIMINATED AGAIN AND THAT IS 
THE HOUSING. POSITION. HOUSING 
AND LIFE SKILL SPECIALIST 
UNDER SOCIAL SERVICE. FI 
REMOVING THAT YOU ALMOST PAY 
FOR BOTH OF THOSE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT POSITIONS THAT WE 
WERE TALKING ABOUT. THERE WAS 
SOME. OF BECAUSE THE PEOPLE 
WHO MAYBE COMING THROUGH. 
BECAUSE OF COVID WITH ISSUES 
BUT. CARE IS THAT THAT WERE 
SEEN BEING DISTRIBUTED IS 
GOING TO BE PAYING FOR PAST 
DUE RENT MORTGAGE THINGS LIKE 
THAT. AND WE AS CITY DON'T 
HAVE MONEY TO SOMEBODY UP IN A 
HOUSE. BASICALLY THAT IS GOING 
TO BE A CASEWORKER THAT POINT 
SOMEBODY IN A DIRECTION IN 
ORDER TO AID THEM WITH HOUSING 
AND THE HOUSING WOULD ACTUALLY 
COME FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION 
OR ENTITY. AND AT THIS I WOULD 
RATHER SEE THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT GETTING WHAT THEY 
NEED FOR THE SECURITY OF THE 
COMMUNITY BECAUSE I SEE THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE 
THINGS COMING THROUGH CARES 
ACT HAPPEN. HELPING THE PEOPLE 
WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP 
THE CARES ACT WAS NOT BEING 
DESCRIBED. BUT IT IS CURRENTLY 
AND SO I WOULD RATHER SEE 
THOSE MONIES FUNNELED OVER TO 
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
>> AND I'M SORRY VICE MAYOR 
WHAT POSITION WAS THAT YOU'RE 
SPEAKING ABOUT HOUSING AND 
LIFE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU 
WERE TALKING ABOUT I JUST 
WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. 
>> IT WAS IT WAS AN APPROVED 
AND THEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION 
THAT WAS PUT IN IT ACTUALLY 
WAS A. 2 TO 3 VOTE AND THEN 
THERE WAS SOMEBODY CHANGE 
THEIR MIND ENDED UP WITH 3 TO 
VOTE. BUT AT THIS POINT I'M 
GOING THROUGH THIS YEAR, 
ESPECIALLY I DON'T THINK IT'S 
A POSITION THAT NEEDS TO BE 
FILLED THAT WE I'D RATHER SEE 
THE MONEY GO OVER TO THE 
POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SAFETY. 
I MEAN WE ALREADY ARE. OUR 
SOCIAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT 
ALREADY POINTS PEOPLE TO THE 
DIRECTIONS THAT THEY THEY NEED 
TO GO TO FOR ASSISTANCE AND TO 
ME IT'S NOT IN HERE THAT WE 
ADD MORE SALARY INTO THAT 
DEPARTMENT. AND VICE MAYOR IF 
I CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT OF 
COURSE. 
>> STAFF HAD PROPOSED TO 
REMOVE IT IN AUGUST. AND NOW 
IT'S BACK IN THE BUDGET. SO I 
AM LEANING TOWARDS STAFF 
ALREADY RECOMMENDED WANTS TO 
REMOVE IT TO HELP WITH THE 
BUDGET SHORTFALLS THAT THAT 
SHOULD BE KEPT OUT OF THE 
BUDGET THAT WOULD SAVE US 
ABOUT $56,400. SO I AGREE WITH 
YOU AND I THINK YOU AND I WERE 
THE ONLY TO THAT. THE 3 TO 
VOTE AND DURING WORKSHOP WOULD 
YOU IN MAY BUT I WOULD HOPE 
THAT GIVEN THIS NEW SITUATION 
THAT WE'RE IN COMPARED TO WHAT 
WE WERE IN JUNE AND JULY THAT 
OTHERS MAY SEE THINGS A LITTLE 
BIT DIFFERENTLY AND ALSO VOTE 
TO HAVE THAT REMOVED, BUT THAT 
WILL HAVE LATER WHEN WE DO 
MOTIONS. 
>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 
COMMENT ON. REMOVING THAT 
POSITION THIS YEAR. 
>> YES MAYOR AHEAD 
COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
>> AND AS ONE WHO I ADAMANTLY 
LOBBY BUT THIS BACK IN THIS IS 
THE YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO 
NEED ONE MORE THAN EVER IN 
THAT POSITION AND THE REASON 
IS 
WE HAVE A INCREASE IN ELDERLY 
THAT TREND. 
EVEN FAMILY. NEXT CARES ACT. 
THE CARES ACT ISN'T GOING TO 
BE ON. NOT ONLY THAT IT IS NOT 
GOING EVEN IF AS OF AN AMOUNT 
TO HELP THE INDIVIDUAL. FIRST 
IT. YES YOU SHOULD SOCIAL 
EXACTLY HOW WITH LEE AND HOW 
MUCH MORE THE MONEY IS GOING 
THROUGH AT THIS 
>> IT'S REALLY ABOUT UM ONE AM 
THINKING PHONE CALL THEN. 
>> EXPLAINING TO THE ELDERLY 
ON THE COMPUTER WHO NEVER USE 
UTERINE THEIR LIGHT THIS IS 
HOW YOU DO IT. THE 
CASE MANAGERS ANY THIS SOCIAL 
SERVICE IS. THEY DON'T HAVE 
THE TIME 
FOR THAT THEY ARE BEING WAY 
TOO MANY PEOPLE AND AND THEY 
JUST THERE'S NO WAY IF THEY 
CAN HOLD THE HAND OF SOMEONE 
WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 
DOING IT CAN POP THEM ALL. IN 
FIRST AND I BROUGHT PEOPLE 
THERE ARE 03:00AM FOR HELP. 
AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY I JUST 
DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M FEELING 
AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH. THAT 
THIS IS IT'S DEFINITELY 
SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THE 
THAT'S THE MUCH AS RENDERS 
THEM A NERVE BECAUSE THE 
FORENSIC EXAMINER IN THE 
POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMETHING 
THAT. TO WHAT WE EAT IS THE 
CURRENT ISSUE. WELL IT'S THE 
SAME THING IN SOCIAL SERVICE 
IS THERE ARE DIRE STRAITS NOW 
AIR AND IF THE CURRENT ISSUE 
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SO 
I WILL NOT BEFORE REMOVING IT. 
>> AND JUST JUST SO YOU GUYS. 
I'M READING THE LIFE THAT 
HOUSING IN LIFE SCHOOL 
PROPOSAL DETAIL SHE AND IT 
SAYS HERE ANOTHER PRIMARY 
SEARCH FOR. LET ME START OVER 
ANOTHER PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS 
POSITION WOULD BE TO AID 
CLIENTS AND DEVELOPING SKILLS 
TO REACH SELF-SUFFICIENCY WITH 
WRAP AROUND SERVICES FOR 
PROGRAM'S SUCCESS AND POSITION 
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 
CREATING AND IMPLEMENTING LIFE 
SKILL COURSES TO RESIDENTS. SO 
JUST 10 RESPONSIBILITIES MONEY 
MANAGEMENT EMPLOYMENT AND 
COMMUNICATION SKILLS TO NAME A 
FEW. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO 
WITH COVID THIS HAS NOTHING TO 
DO WITH. HELPING STUDENTS 
SIGNED. THIS IS MORE OF LIFE 
SKILLS TO. DON'TS. 
>> TO HELP THAT'S HOW IT'S 
PRESENTED SO MAYBE WE SHOULD 
GET CLARIFICATION I'M GLAD 
THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. 
>> WELL I THINK WE ADDED THE 
COVID PART OURSELVES BECAUSE 
WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT. THE 
POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE LOSING 
THEIR HOUSING. AND AGAIN I 
MEAN WE'RE LOOKING AT CUTTING. 
>> POSITIONS THAT ALREADY 
EXIST AND WE WANT TO HANG ON 
TO SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY 
BEING ADDRESSED BY OTHER 
ORGANIZATIONS. I MEAN THEY 
ALREADY POINT PEOPLE TO LIFE'S 
OF. ORGANIZATIONS THAT TEACH 
LIFE SKILLS AND EVERYTHING SO. 
I MEAN THE AD EDITION OF IT IS 
WHY IT WAS SHOT DOWN TO START 
WITH. IT'S NOT A YEAR FOR IT 
TO BE ADDED TO IT MAYBE WE CAN 
LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE. BUT 
AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I CAN I 
CAN AGREE TO BE ADDING 60 SOME 
$1000 TO TO THE BUDGET TO. 
HELP SOMEBODY WHEN THERE'S 
HELP ALREADY AVAILABLE. 
>> CITY MANAGER COULD SOMEBODY 
FROM SOCIAL SERVICES WEIGH IN. 
>> IT'S EVERETT. 
>> IS OF THOSE SERVICES I CAN 
STAY ON THE SIDELINES. IT'S OK 
AND 10 COULD BE A SOCIAL 
SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE 
RECORD SO THAT POSITION 
APOLOGIZE IF I CAN EXPLAIN IT 
ACCURATELY LAST TIME THAT 
THERE IS A HYBRID POSITION SO 
IT WILL BE TEACHING MY SKILLS 
SUCH AS MONEY MANAGEMENT HOW 
CREATE A RESUME HOW ATTEND A 
JOB INTERVIEW HAD PAY YOUR 
BILLS ON TIME I KNOW THESE 
THINGS SOUND LIKE COMMON SENSE 
THINGS THAT THEY ARE NOT. 
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE 
HAVE TO WORK ON IS. 
>> HELP OUR PLANES STAY HOUSE. 
>> THE OTHER PORTION THAT THEY 
WOULD BE DOING IS ACTUALLY 
HOUSING INDIVIDUALS AND WE 
WOULD BE USING UTILIZING OUR 
FUNDS. SO WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE 
AS A LISTEN TO ME IF THIS 
ONE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT 
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS SOMEBODY 
COMES IN HE IS ELIGIBLE TO 
RECEIVE THE FUNDING TO RECEIVE 
ASSISTANCE. BUT THEY CAN'T 
FIND BIG THEY CAN HOUSING YOU 
CAN GET A LANDLORD TO THEY 
CAN'T. ACTUALLY GET ON THE 
WAITING LIST SO THAT PERSON 
WOULD ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM STEP 
ONE TO STEP 5 WHERE THEY COME 
INTO THE APPLICATION THEY GET 
HOUSED AND THEN WORK WITH THEM 
ON LIFE SKILLS THAT WE 
MENTIONED SO IT IS A HYBRID 
POSITION. IT'S DOING A LITTLE 
BIT OF ALL BUT IT'S BASICALLY 
TO KEEP PEOPLE GET THEM HOUSE 
AND ALSO KEEP THE HOUSE I 
CONTINUE TO SAY OUR SERVICES 
ARE ONE-TIME VENDING SERVICES 
SO WHEN THEY GET HOUSE ONE 
TIME THEN THEY'RE BASICALLY ON 
THEIR OWN. AND YOU'VE HEARD OF 
CASES WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN 
NAMED ABOUT IT, SOCIAL 
SERVICES DIDN'T HELP HIS 
CLIENT GET HOUSED, AND IT'S 
NOT THAT WE DON'T HELP TO GET 
HOUSES. WE HAVE THE FUNDING WE 
JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSON TO 
GO ACTUALLY GO DO THIS NEXT 
STEP ARE THERE AGENCIES THAT 
DO THAT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY 
BUT SOMETIMES THEY HAVE 
DIFFERENT PROCEDURES ARE 
DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR FOR 
PEOPLE TO BE APPROVED FOR IT. 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> SO I DON'T KNOW VICE MAYOR 
THIS IS THIS IS YOUR TOPIC YOU 
WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR DO 
YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER 
WE'RE DONE WITH ALL THE 
CONVERSATION WEIGHT WITH YOU 
KNOW UNTIL THE END OF A LOT OF 
CONVERSATION THAT I I STILL 
IT. THIS POINT IN TIME THIS 
YEAR. I CAN'T I CAN'T AGREE TO 
IT. WHAT COMMISSIONER CARES 
OWNERS TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE 
INITIALLY SPOKE. SHE WAS 
TALKING ABOUT THAT MILLION 
DOLLARS THAT WAS GOING TO BE. 
GOING FROM THIS YEAR OVER TO 
NEXT YEAR. WHAT WOULD THAT IN 
THIS MAY BE CATCHING OFF GUARD 
BUT WHAT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT 
OF THAT MILLION DOLLARS B TO 
THAT FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE. 
I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A 
23.0 1. IF YOU ADD A MILLION 
TO IT WHAT WITH THAT 
PERCENTAGE TREE RIGHT AROUND 
25. 25 MARK. AND THAT MILLION 
DOLLARS THIS LIST THAT I'M 
LOOKING AT. I MEAN THE PARKS 
AND PORTION THAT WE PULLED IS 
ALMOST HALF A MILLION ITSELF. 
BUT IF YOU TAKE THOSE FIRST 5 
ITEMS. WHICH INCLUDES THE 2 
POSITIONS FOR THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT THAT COMES TO 
621,458. SO. I THINK IT'S 
DOABLE. TO AT LEAST TAKE A 
PORTION OF THIS LIST THAT IS 
REMOVED AND. MAYBE ADD SOME OF 
THOSE INTO THE BUDGET AND 
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO END UP 
WITH YOUR 25 FOR CLOSE TO 25% 
THAT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THIS. 
JUST THE 4 TOP FOR EVERYBODY. 
ONE THING MORE REMEMBERING UP 
A MORE TIME AND THE REASON 
THAT I WANT TO BRING THIS UP. 
FOR THE FUTURE. AND WE'RE 
LOOKING AT IT THIS YEAR. AND 
YEAH WE HAD A. QUITE DIP IN 
OUR FUNDING THAT WE HAD TO 
DRIVE BACK OUT OF THAT NEXT 
YEAR'S NOT GOING TO BE. 
PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT BETTER. 
IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL YEAR 
ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A 
BANG-UP 1ST QUARTER THAT WE 
DID THIS YEAR. AND I LOOK AT 
THAT THAT PATH THAT'S OUT ON 
TROPICAIRE. AND IT'S THAT 
MULTI-USE AND IT'S NOT THE 
FULL LANG AND NO IT'S NOT 
TAXPAYER MONEY. IT'S SURTAX 
THIS SURTAX IS WHERE WE SAW 
THAT DROP. WAS SIZABLE DROP 
THIS YEAR AND WE NEED TO 
FIGURE THAT PERCENTAGE LOWER 
AGAIN NEXT YEAR. AND SO WE 
PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO 
FINISH THAT MULTI-USE PATH. 
WITH SURTAX MONEY PROBABLY FOR 
A COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT WE WE 
TALKED ABOUT IN THAT MEETING 
OF FINDING OUT HOW MUCH THAT 6 
FOOT SIDEWALK WOULD BE ALL THE 
WAY THROUGH AND COULD THE 
MONEY THAT WE HAVE ASSIGNED TO 
THAT TAKE CARE OF THE FULL 
LENGTH. SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE 
TO USE MORE SURTAX MONEY IN 
THE FUTURE. SO I'M WONDERING 
IF. I CAN GET AN AGREEMENT BY 
THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO 
LOOK AT. THE COST OF THAT 6 
FOOT SIDEWALK RATHER THAN USE 
MORE SURTAX. NEXT YEAR OR THE 
YEAR AFTER WHEN THINGS ARE 
STILL GOING TO BE DIFFICULT 
AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO 
COMPLETE THAT PROJECT OUT 
THERE. WE THANK YOU. 
>> COMMISSIONER HARRISON YOU 
WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT ITEM. 
>> I'M NOT REALLY I MEAN WE 
HAD WHAT 3 OUR CONVERSATION ON 
AND THAT IT WAS YOU KNOW MORE 
MONEY ACTUALLY DO WITH THE 
IRON LOOK AT CHANGE OF PLANS. 
I MEAN THAT WAS LIKE MONTH I 
DON'T I DON'T BE A REHASH I 
HAD A QUESTION THOUGH I WAIT 
UNTIL THERE IS OVER. 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK 
TO BUY SOME ERRORS. 
>> I. I KNOW THAT WE HAD 
TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. A 
GREAT LINK, THE CONVERSATION 
ABOUT PATH. AND THEY WERE 
TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINEER 
WOULD NEED TO COME BACK. 
>> AND I DID NOT THINK OF IT 
UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING WE 
COULD KEEP THE ENGINEERED 
RANGE THE WAY THAT IT IS SO 
THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE 
CHANGED AT ALL THERE WOULD BE 
NO REQUIREMENT FOR AN 
ENGINEER. WE COULD JUST DO THE 
SIDEWALK GOING FROM. 8 FEET TO 
6 YOU'RE REDUCING YOUR NOT 
ADD. WHICH MAKES IT MUCH 
EASIER. SO I AGREE WITH VICE 
MAYOR THAT WE NEED TO EITHER. 
DO THE WHOLE LINK THAT ONE 
TIME BECAUSE IT WILL BE 
PROJECT SAVINGS BECAUSE YOU 
HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT THERE 
YOU HAVE ALL THE WORKERS THERE 
BECAUSE PHASE 2 IT DOESN'T 
LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 
NEXT YEAR LIKE WE HAD 
DISCUSSED IN THAT 3 OUR 
CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF ALL OF 
THESE REVENUE DROPS. SO I 
WOULD BE INCLINED TO AGREE 
WITH VICE MAYOR JUST BRING 
BACK THE NUMBERS KEEP THE 
BRIDGE THE SAME THAT WAS THE 
ONLY ENGINE YOUR STRUCTURE 
THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED. IF 
WE WERE TO REDUCE THE PACK 
JUST KEEP THAT BRIDGE THE SAME 
AND. SHRINK THE PACKAGE 
ITSELF. AND GO FROM A CAMP ALL 
THE WAY TO CLEAN UP LATE SO I 
WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF SEE OF 
STAFF COULD PUT THOSE NUMBERS 
TOGETHER. BY SECOND READING. 
AND I KNOW THIS WILL BE 
HAPPENED EVERY STATION DURING 
BRAIN DRAIN AGE AS OPPOSED TO 
RIGHT NOW, BUT. I AGREE WITH 
YOU THAT MONEY IS NOT GOING TO 
BE THERE TO DO THE FACE TOO. 
AND LET'S TRY AND GET THIS 
PROJECT DONE AND OVER WITH. 
WHILE WE CAN. 
>> I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO SEE 
THE WHOLE STRETCH AND THAT 
SIDEWALK AND IF I REMEMBER 
CORRECTLY IT WAS IT OUT THE 
COST OF WHAT THAT 6 FOOT 
SIDEWALK WOULD BE FROM VANCAMP 
TO PONCE DE LEON, SO I THINK 
STAFF COULD FIGURE WHAT THE 
COST WOULD BE AGAIN YOUR IDEA 
OF LEAVING THE BRIDGE ENGINEER 
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN 
ENGINEER. I 
>> AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY 
CAN DO THAT FOR US NOW. THE 
MANAGER. 
>> YES, MA'AM LIKE TO WEIGH 
IN. WELL THE 
EVERYBODY IS. 
>> HAHA. 
>> FOR THE RECORD GARY TO HER 
SON DURING DIVISION MANAGER. 
>> CHANGING THE. 
>> THE TRAIL FROM A FOOT TO A 
6 FOOT SIDEWALK. WE'RE TALKING 
TAKING FROM CURRENTLY SOME 8 
ASPHALT PATH MULTI-USE TRAIL. 
IF WE GO DOWN TO A 6 FOOT 
CONCRETE SIDEWALK. WE HAVE 
DIFFERENT SEE MATERIALS AND. 
THE COST IN THE CONSTRUCT 
ABILITY OF THE CONCRETE IS 
MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE 
ASPHALT SO WITHOUT DOING ANY 
NUMBERS AT THE END OF THE DAY 
YOU MIGHT BE A WASH OR IT CAN 
BE EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. 
>> I HAVE THIS CONFERENCE LAST 
FALL 6 FOOT EYES NOW. NOT IF 
WE GET THE 6 FOOT ASKED IT'S I 
WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS IN SEE 
HOW WILL BE THE SAVINGS. 
>> ME FACE A 6 FOOT WE CAN NOT 
I CALL IT A MULTI-USE TRAIL WE 
WILL HAVE TO BE CALL AND ASK 
PULSE, I AND IT WILL KIND OF 
DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF THE 
ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THE WORK BUT 
IF YOU 
YOU DIRECT THIS WE CAN LOOK AT 
THE NUMBERS BY THE NEXT YEAR. 
>> WHEN THEY WAS WHEN IS THE 
NEXT BUDGET YOU MIX IN 2 
WEEKS. WE CAN WE GET THEM AND 
YOU KNOW WE HAVE WITH DIDN'T 
SEE THE REAL YEAH, NO NO FOR 
FOR THAT. 
>> AND LET ME LET ME GET IT 
RIGHT BEFORE I MAKE YOU JUST 
WANT 
>> HOW MUCH WILL BE THE COST 
SAVINGS. THE LEAD OF THE 
ENTIRE OR JUST THE FACE LONG. 
>> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 
AND THIS IS JUST ME AND WE 
WILL HAVE TO GET A CONSENSUS 
IN THE DAY AT ALL ABOUT THAT 
UNITED THAT FROM AND CAMP ALL 
THE WAY TO TOLEDO BLADE HOW 
MUCH WOULD IT COST FOR A 6 
FOOT ASPHALT. AND HOW MUCH 
WOULD IT BE FOR A 5 FOOT ASKED 
FALL BECAUSE I THINK IS WHAT 
IS REQUIRED BY CODE FOR 
COLLECTIVE ROADS. 
>> BUT IF THEN AND THEN WE GO 
TO 5 IT WILL BE A SIDEWALK AND 
I THINK THAT OUR CODE SAYS ALL 
SIDEWALKS SHOULD CONQUERING 
OF. 
>> THANKS FOR 
>> ALSO HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE 
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH 
THAT PROCESS. 
>> THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 
HAVE CERTAIN USES ON THERE 
IT'S IT'S IN THESE STATES WILL 
NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE COURSE IS 
A LOT TO GO ON AND ALL THE 
THINGS PEOPLE WANTED WE'VE 
BEEN ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE 
VARIOUS OF GOLF CARTS AND ALL 
THAT THOSE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED 
TO GO ON I JUST WANT TO LET 
YOU KNOW WHEN WE DO THAT IT'S 
GOING TO BE STRICTLY A 
SIDEWALK. NO MOTORIZED 
VEHICLES OF ANY TYPE WOULD BE 
PERMITTED. 
>> MAYOR I'M ARTIST IN HAD WE 
ARE NOT MET. BARELY, ERIC AND 
THAT IT WOULD OFFER MORE MONEY 
OR LET MONEY BE AS A MAN 
>> WHEN THE MAINTENANCE BE 
ASTRONOMICAL AND A GRAVEL I'D 
WALK WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST 
THE TEMPORARY SITE LOT ARE 
VERY DIFFICULT MEAN ACTUALLY 
OVER HERE IN THE WHERE. THE 
DRAINAGE DOES NOT TO NO 
>> YOU'RE YOU'RE DEFINITELY 
GOING TO HAVE HIGHER 
MAINTENANCE COSTS AND OR 
CONCRETE CONCRETE IS ALWAYS 
THE BETTER WAY TO GO IS MORE 
PERMANENT. THE OTHER THING 
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS YOU'RE 
GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE 
OUT THERE AND HAVE 
AGRICULTURAL TYPE THINGS. HAVE 
THE HORSES HAVE ALL THAT AND 
NOW WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU 
CANNOT GO ON THERE. SO IF THEY 
GO ON THE ASPHALT IT'S GOING 
TO BREAK UP QUICKER. IT'S 
GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, I'M 
JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT HAVE 
TIME FOR ONE MORE THAN HAPPY 
TO DO IT IT BECAUSE THE AREA 
YOU YOU HAVE IS MORE CONDUCIVE 
TO AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES 
RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE 
IN TOWN. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
>> MISTER MAJID QUESTION. 
>> YEAH WELL. 
>> MISTER JERRY ZUCKER IT'S 
ALREADY PUT INTO WHERE WE'RE 
DOING THAT 6 FOOT CONCRETE 
SIDEWALK FROM UP UNTIL LAST LA 
THAT'S WHEN WE COME BACK WITH 
THE NUMBERS MAKE SURE THAT YOU 
GIVE US THE NUMBER FOR THE 
ASPHALT AS WELL BECAUSE IF 
THEY'RE LOOKING TO GO THE 
WHOLE WAY WE WANT TO START 
WITH CONCRETE THEN GO DOWN 
JUST SMALLER ASPHALT PATH. 
LET'S LOOK AT IT IN TOTALITY 
AND GET ASKED ALL THE WAY OR 
CONCRETE ALL THE WAY WHICH 
WHICH THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE 6 
FOOT WIDE AND THAT'S WILL TAKE 
A CONSENSUS THAT SEE YOU'RE 
THE ONE BROUGHT IT BUT I'M 
SAYING IT'S IT'S ALREADY A 6 
FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALK. 8 NOW THAT 
THE PATH YOU WRITE SOMETHING 
CAMP 2 OF THEM CAN TO PONCE DE 
LEON HAS A 6 POINTS ON 3 
FRONTS TO SOME STORIES 88 
THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS IN PLACE 
AT 
>> THERE'S THERE'S YOUR BOY IN 
CHARGE, OKAY. MISS JULIE YES, 
MA'AM. FROM BEING CAN DO. 
>> IT'S 6 FIGHTS. A THOUGHT. 
THE WAY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 
IT. 6 FOOT 6 POINT OKAY, SO 
CAN COUNTRY SPAM BE IN CAMP 2 
POUNDS IS A 6 FOOT CONCRETE 
SIDEWALK TYPE I STAY LIOTTA 
SUMPTER IS. MANY FEET A FOOT 
ASPHALT TRAIL AS WELL OK THANK 
YOU IT'S MEANT THANK YOU I 
THOUGHT IT WAS ALSO 8 FOOT 
SIDEWALK. SO THANK YOU. 
>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE 
THE NUMBERS WERE COCA STATIC 
WITH WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT 
AS A WHOLE. 
>> OKAY CITY MANAGER THERE. 
THIS ROOM WE LEAVE YOU 
TONIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THINGS 
WITH ABOUT 2 OF THESE 
DIFFERENT, I KNOW CHOICES GOES 
TO MAKE A NEW BUDGET 
AMENDMENTS. YOU KNOW JUST 
ONCE. WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF 
TIME I CAN NO LONGER. 
>> THERE ARE AROUND TOWARDS 
THE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS 
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME CAN 
MAKE ONE FINAL SUGGESTION. 
>> I THINK LEAVING IT LIKE IT 
IS AND GETTING THE USABILITY 
FOR THE AREA THAT IS CONDUCIVE 
N IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S 
ALL ON SET. 
>> VICE MAYOR YOU HAVE TO 
FLORIDA AND WHAT YOU WANT TO 
DO AT THIS POINT. 
>> IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE 
ECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE 
IN IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO 
SOMETHING AND I THINK MORE 
TOWARD THE CHILDREN TRYING TO 
GET ON THE BUS. 
>> I MEAN IF VANCAMP TO PONCE 
DE LEON WAS IMPORTANT. SO IS 
SUMTER TOLEDO BLADE IN MY 
OPINION. SO I WAS JUST TRYING 
TO SEE IF THE MONEY'S WAS NOT. 
TO AT LEAST GET THAT 6 FOOT 
FOR THOSE PURPOSES THAT WAS MY 
INTENT INSTEAD OF IT BEING 
WHICH TOWN MAYBE 4 YEARS. 
>> THIS HAS TO DO A CODE I 
HAVE A QUESTION FOR CODE 
ENFORCEMENT GOVERNOR DID YOU 
BACK ON THE RECORD. 
♪
IS THERE WOULD THERE REALLY BE 
A DIFFERENCE IF YOU WENT FROM 
PROACTIVE TO REACTIVE IN THE 
AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT YOU 
♪
WOULD NEED WOULD IT MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE. 
>> WELL I THINK CONTRARY TO 
POPULAR BELIEF WE DO HAVE A 
LOT OF. COLLINS NOW WITH NORTH 
REPORT THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS 
TO REPORT THINGS IS A LOT OF 
TEARS, A LOT OF WAYS REPORTED 
ANONYMOUSLY SO WE DO GET OUR 
FAIR SHARE OF. PROACTIVE AND 
REACTIVE IT. IT ALSO DEPENDS 
ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR 3 AND 
THAT'S COMING MONTHS WHETHER 
THERE'S CALL IT OR NOT THERE'S 
GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE 
HERE THAN WOULD NORMALLY BE 
HERE IN THE SUMMER. THAT WAS 
THAT'S AN UPTICK IN OUR CALLS. 
ASSIST THE POLICE THE FIRE 
DEPARTMENT PUBLIC WORKS MAYBE 
NOT ALL EVERY DAY, BUT AT 
LEAST ONE EVERY DAY. MOST WERE 
TIED UP WITH THEM FOR A COUPLE 
HOURS THAT HE'S ONE OF THEM. 
MY SPECTER'S OUT OF SERVICE. 
WITH THE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND 
WILL GO OUT IF I HAVE TO 
HOWEVER IF I DO THAT THEN I'M 
NOT A VEILED MISTER MILES. SO 
I I'M NOT SO SURE YOU CAN IT'S 
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE I DON'T 
KNOW THE ANSWER IT'S NOT A. 
ONE STOP ALL ANSWERED, YOU 
KNOW DEFINITE THIS WAY OR THAT 
WAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF 
FACTORS THAT IT DEPENDS ON. 
>> OR WOULD WOULD I BE SAFE TO 
SAY THE MAJORITY OF. THEIR 
CASES WERE PROBABLY REACTIVE. 
FROM THE E-MAILS I GET. 
>> THERE I MEAN I KEEP ONE MAN 
BUSY WITH THAT WHILE THE 
ANSWER TO THAT IS THIS THIS IS 
WELL THIS IF SOMEONE CALLS FOR 
SOME IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. 
MISTER MILES GARBAGE CAN TELL 
YOU IS THAT 1, 2, 3, 4 MAIN 
STREET. 
>> SPECTER POSE THEIR OWN 
FEARS WHEN THE INSPECTOR GOES 
THERE AND PUT EYES ON THAT AND 
ITS PILOTS AND THEY WRITE HERE 
SHE WRITES THAT UP. DOESN'T 
STOP THERE THE FAIR AND TO YOU 
KNOW ONE OF THE SAME SERVICE 
AND TO EDUCATE PEOPLE. 
>> WHAT THE RULES ARE THE 
INSPECTOR GOES DOWN THE REST 
OF THE STREET OR MAYBE THE 
SURROUNDING STREETS OR THE 
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, SO 
ONE GARBAGE CAN WHICH JUST 
HAPPENED TODAY WITH ONE OF OUR 
INSPECTORS. ONE OF OUR SKIN 
TURNED INTO 19 CASE. BECAUSE 
GARBAGE CANS WERE LEFT OUT 
FROM CARPETS IN PUT OUT 
YESTERDAY WHEN THAT HAPPENS 
ALL THE AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE 
IF WE DON'T GET USED TO TARGET 
ADS AT WORK. 
♪
♪
>> WAS REALLY. 
>> THE WHO BUZZ TO REMOVE ONE 
OF THOSE, I MEAN TAKE IT FROM 
OR HIS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AS 
MUCH WORK WHETHER YOU'RE 
REACTIVE OR PROACTIVE RIGHT. 
>> THE TIME OFF RELATIONS 
DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S A GOOD 
JOB, 
>> BY SOME AREAS SAW THE FLOOR 
BUT STAFF WAS FINISHING OF 
THEIR ANSWER ARE YOU FINISHED. 
>> I THINK DIRECTOR YES, I 
WOULD JUST ADD THAT WITH THE 
LEVEL CONSTRUCTION. AND THE 
DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING 
WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE 
CONTRACTORS AND THESE 
DEVELOPMENT SITE IN DISARRAY 
THERE DEGREE AND SO YOU KNOW 
THAT'S TAKING UP SOME 
ADDITIONAL TIME IN ADDITION TO 
THE OTHER THINGS I JUST WANT 
TO POINT THAT OUT. THANK YOU. 
>> IN A MOMENT COMMISSIONER, 
SOME. 
>> KNOW I CAN ONLY THANK YOU 
WHEN THE LEFT AND WE ACTUALLY 
TRANSFERRED REACTIVE VERSUS 
PROACTIVE WE ACTUALLY HAVING 
NOW IT IS OF THAT. AND. YOU 
KNOW, WHILE YEAH ONE WILL GO 
DOWN ANY OF THE ONE ALL AND 
THEN CONTINUE DOWN THE STREET, 
YOU KNOW AND GOT OF CONTINUING 
DOWN THE STREET THEY GO TO THE 
NEXT CALL IN. WE ACTUALLY 
REDUCE THE IMPACT BUDGET 
FIGHT. MY MATH. AS FIRST 
CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT 
DEBRIS THAT WAS GOING TO 
REPORT IT. 
>> IF I COULD JUST SAID WHEN 
YOU HAVE THEM NOW SUSPECTED IN 
INSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT 
DEBRIS WAS ALWAYS ANDEL I IN 
FACT OR SO. 
>> YOU KNOW THEY WOULD MAKE 
THE COMPLAINT AND THEN THEY 
WOULD TURN AROUND AND PUT THE 
AND PUT THE ONUS ON ON CODE 
ENFORCEMENT, BUT HONESTLY I 
DON'T HE'LL. THEY JUST THEY 
LET RID OF IT PROACTIVE OR 
REACTIVE INTO I HAVE A IF HER 
AND NOW IT'S LIKE WE DID THE 
LAST TIME. FIRST PLAY I 
BELIEVE IN. AND OF COURSE YOU 
KNOW THIS IS A A GROUP FIEL 
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW 
IF WE HADN'T ANNOUNCED SHOWED 
THAT YOU KNOW YOU WILL THEY 
BACK THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND 
AND THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF 
REACTIVE VERSUS PROACTIVE ALL 
ALL I BUT IN THE MEANTIME JUST 
BY REDUCING THE ONE. OR 
SEMANOFF AIR IS REALLY QUITE 
CONDITIONS MAY. BUT IT'S NOT I 
DON'T WANT MISS IT IS IT WORTH 
YOU KNOW A CONVERSATION IN THE 
FUTURE BUT AS ANY MANAGER. YOU 
KNOW WE'RE UP IN WIRE NOT SURE 
IF I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION 
TO REALLY MAKE THAT 
DETERMINATION RIGHT NOW. 
>> AND THE ONLY THING I LIKE 
I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT 
ANALYSIS WAS DONE. 
>> BECAUSE OF IMPINGING GROWTH 
9. EXCUSE ME IT HAPPENED IN 9 
OKAY, I DON'T THINK WE HAD AN 
ENGINE GROWTH BACK THEN I 
BELIEVE I WASN'T THERE. WHEN 
WE WERE GETTING CRUSHED WITH 
THOSE CALLS YOU HAVE AT LEAST 
PROBABLY THAT STATION IT ALL 
AS MISTER MILES SAID THE 
CONSTRUCTION CALL, ESPECIALLY 
NOW THE RAINY SEASON. I MEAN 
THERE'S NOT WE HAVE A GOOD 
RAIN PEOPLE ARE CALLS THE 
STREETS ARE FLOODED. THEY 
CAN'T GET OUT OF THEIR 
DRIVEWAY, YOU CAN'T GET THEIR 
MAIL. ALSO TO NEW TREE 
ORDINANCE IS EXPLODING. 
EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH 
THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD 
WITH SAYING TORTOISES AND 
SCRUB JAYS WE GET WE GET A LOT 
MORE CALLS FOR THAT ON A DAILY 
BASIS PROBABLY WE DID EVEN A 
YEAR AGO. I THINK THEY WILL DO 
WHATEVER YOU WANT AH, I'M OKAY 
WITH THAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S 
ALL ABOUT MONEY AND SAVE 
MONEY. BUT THERE IS I BELIEVE 
THERE'S A NEED TO HAVE ALL OF 
PREMIUM LEVEL SERVICE WE HAVE 
RIGHT NOW AND IF WE GO DOWN 
THAT THIS IT WILL WILL WILL 
TRY TO MAKE UP FOR IT JUST MAY 
NOT BE USUALLY A LOT OF TIMES 
DURING THE DAY WE CAN SET 
SOMETHING UP THAT SAME DAY WE 
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT 
ANYMORE WE'VE GOT A PURSE AND 
WE'LL DO THE NEXT TO ME WE I 
0.3% GROWTH THIS YEAR AND IT 
ONLY. 
>> CONTINUES TO GROW AND GROW 
THE POPULATION DOESN'T SO THE 
CALLS GROW AND GROW ALL THE 
TIME TOO SO I WOULD LIKE TO 
SEE IT LEFT AS IS PERSONALLY 
MYSELF. 
>> SURE MUCH. 
>> YEAH I LOOK AT THIS LITTLE 
UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY I 
IF WE WERE AT A PIER REACTIVE. 
AND YOU COULD JUST HANDLE THE 
CALLS AS THEY COME AND YOU 
WOULD GO FROM ONE CALL TO 
ANOTHER AND IT DOES SUPPORT 
SAVINGS. IT WOULD SUPPORT 
HAVEN'T LESS PEOPLE THERE AS 
WELL. I MEAN YOU HAVE 5 YOU 
KNOW NOW THE SUPERVISOR. BACK 
IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS THERE I 
WAS WORKING SUPERVISOR, YOU 
DID SAY THAT YOU WOULD BE 
WILLING TO GO OUT THERE SO 
THAT'S ALL THAT. THE THING 
ABOUT IT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
YOU KNOW POSSIBLY JUST GIVING 
THIS A TRY THIS NEXT YEAR. YOU 
KNOW WE LOSE ONE POSITION. WE 
HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT CUTTING 
EXISTING POSITIONS. WELL WE'RE 
LOOKING AT NEW POSITIONS, 
WE'RE LOOKING AT VACANT 
POSITIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 
POSSIBILITIES ON HOW TO SAVE 
MONEY. WE HAVE NOT TALKED 
ABOUT CUTTING EXISTING 
POSITIONS WE HAVEN'T TALKED 
ABOUT A FREEZE IS ANYTHING 
LIKE THAT YET WE'RE TRYING TO 
GET TO THE AREAS WHERE WE 
DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT SO 
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE 
AMENDMENTS TO THIS BUDGET THE 
BEST WAY POSSIBLE. WE'RE 
TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY 
AND STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S 
A DIFFERENT OR A BETTER WAY TO 
ACCOMPLISH THIS. I MAY BE 
CHANGING OUR WAYS OF GOING TOO 
REACTIVE. AND LIKE YOU SAID 
THAT WE COULDN'T GET TO IT 
TODAY MAYBE WE'LL GET TO IT 
TOMORROW. I GET SO MANY 
E-MAILS ABOUT MY HOUSE WAS GET 
FOR THIS. BUT THEN THIS ONE 
ACROSS THE STREET HAS THE SAME 
THING ALL OF YOUR PROACTIVE 
THEY BOTH SHOULD HAVE BEEN 
GAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE A 
DISCREPANCY THAT TO ME IS 
SOUNDING LIKE IT'S REACTIVE. 
THIS PERSON, NOT PERSON ACROSS 
THE STREET. I GOT A LOT OF 
THOSE EMAILS. SO IT MAY JUST 
MEAN THE PROCESS AND THAT'S 
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT I WOULD 
CUT OUT THAT POSITION AND I 
WOULD PUT AND THAT'S THE WAY 
THAT I FEEL ABOUT THAT JUST 
FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. YOU CAN 
SAY MUCH YOU'RE WRONG. NOW I 
NEED TO BE. AND THAT WAS GOOD 
BUT FOLLOW IT HERE AS LONG AS 
EVERYTHING HAS RECOUPED LIKE 
IT SHOULD. BUT TIMES ARE TOUGH 
AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
MAYBE WITH A LITTLE LESS 
AMMUNITION AND WHAT WE HAVE 
RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHERE I 
STAND ON SO. 
>> SO THINK YOU COMMISSIONER 
SIR DID YOU STILL WANT TO 
SPEAK ARE YOU FINISHED. 
>> YEAH, BUT WHAT I I'VE BEEN 
KIND I HAVEN'T PLANE REQUEST 
BIG THING ON EVERY TIME I SEE 
IT ON AND I NEVER SEE IT GO 
OFF AND I THOUGHT IT WAS YEAH 
THEY DID TO THE LAST TIME YOU 
SPOKE GO AHEAD PLEASE. 
>> I JUST QUESTION IS WHERE 
FIRST THE LEFT ON MY OWN I 
WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT 
THAT WE REMOVE IT AFTER THIS 
ONE. HOW MUCH WAS THAT WHAT 
WAS THE IMPACT A BUDGET. 
>> AND THE PART ONE. 21,041 
1000. 
>> CAN'T FIX 
>> THE QUESTION I 
>> BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY 
THOUGH. THERE'S NO ADMISSION 
TO YOUR STAFF THAT YOU'RE 
ASKING FOR WE ALREADY HAVE 
HIGH POSITIONS IN THE BUDGET. 
WE JUST HAVE ONE VACANCY 
BECAUSE YOU ARE PROMOTED. SO 
WE JUST SO WE'VE BEEN CARRYING 
5 ALL ALONG. 
>> AND JUST TO WEIGH IN ON THE 
SUBJECT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF 
CUTTING ANYTHING OR CHANGING 
ANYTHING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT 
BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING 
STARTING NEXT YEAR. WHEN 
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO 
START PAYING THEIR RENTS AND 
START HAVING TO PAY THEIR 
MORTGAGES WE'RE GOING TO SEE A 
LOT VACANCIES ABANDONED 
GARBAGE THROWN OUT ON THE 
STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE 
GOING TO HAVE TO VACATE VERY 
QUICKLY. I DON'T THINK THIS IS 
THE TIME OR REASON THEIR 
SEASON START MESSING WITH CODE 
ENFORCEMENT UNTIL WE KNOW ALL 
THE FULL EFFECTS OF WHAT COVID 
IS GOING TO HAVE. NEXT YEAR 
THAT'S JUST MY $0.2 ON IT. 
ALRIGHT SO GO AHEAD, VICE 
MAYOR. 
>> I'M GONNA. 
>> THANK YOU DID ANYBODY ELSE 
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
COMMISSIONER THANKS TO 
COMMISSIONER MUCH. 
>> MOTION WHY HAVE A COUPLE OF 
DISCUSSION POINT WOULD LIKE TO 
BRING UP. FIRST ONES I'M GOING 
TO HE'S EPC THE FIRST ONE 
FIRST 2. THIS IS JUST A 
♪
♪
THE SEA ICE HE SHEET ON PAGE 
9, 1, 4, IT US 41 MULTI-MODAL 
PATH AMENITIES DESIGN AND THEY 
HAD 0, 0, 0, ACROSS THE BOARD 
UNTIL FUTURE FUNDING WE PUSH 
THING OUT WE GAVE DIRECTION IN 
JULY TO CHANGE THE OPERATING 
BUDGET IMPACT AND REMOVE. 
140,004 BUSY BOEING 
LANDSCAPING AND ALL THAT 
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT 
THAT IS AND THAT JUST NEEDS TO 
BE UPDATED AND HAVE THOSE 
ITEMS REMOVED ON THAT. 
>> AND THAT IMPACT THE BUDGET 
MEASURE, SO THEY'RE NO BECAUSE 
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BUDGET 
THAT 
>> IT'S JUST A DESCRIPTION 
THING. 
>> AND IT HAS THE NIGHT OFF NO 
IT HAS IT'S A DESCRIPTION 
THING. AND IT HAS MONEY 
ATTACHED TO IT AND WHEN WE CUT 
IT IN JULY WE GOT CONSENSUS TO 
REMOVING IT JUST WASN'T 
REMOVED. I AM. 
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 
THAT IT DOESN'T. 
>> ADD OR IN THE BUDGET BOTTOM 
LINE THAT OFF NOTHING THERE. 
>> NOW THE BROW. 
>> SO I JUST YOU KNOW CITY 
MANAGER IF THAT COULD BE 
CORRECTED. THERE ARE NO 
AMENITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO 
BE DOING. 
>> YOU FORGET THAT YEAR. 
>> I KNOW THAT WILL BE TAKEN 
CARE OF BY SECOND READING. 
♪
♪
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU NEED A 
CONSENSUS AGAIN. AND THE 
SECOND ONE THANK YOU. THE 
SECOND ONE IS ON PAGE 53 OF 
THE CFP SHE TO THEM I HAD TO 
CREEK ORDER LAND ACQUISITION. 
AND IT SAYS EXPENDITURES TO 
DATE AND THAT WAS 
3 MILLION 815 THOUSAND 748. 
AND IN JULY IT WAS EXPLAINED 
THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE THE 
COSTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF JUST 
ME. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET A 
CONSENSUS TO HAVE STAFF UPDATE 
THIS SEE IPI PROJECT SHEET TO 
REFLECT THE PURCHASE OF JUST 
MEAN THAT HAPPENED IN THIS 
FISCAL YEAR. TO INCREASE IT BY 
THE COST OF JUST ME. THE 
EXPENDITURES DOES THAT MAKE 
SENSE. CAN I GET A CONSENSUS 
ON THAT RIGHT AWAY BEFORE WE 
LOSE SIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS 
JUST PEOPLE WERE KIND OF STUFF 
TO UPDATE THE EXPENDITURE FOR 
REFLECTING JUST I CFP SHE HE 
WON 5 MCC I MEAN YES. 
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER 
HARRISON. COMMISSIONER EMERGE 
AS THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT SO 
TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE NEXT AM. 
SECOND READING ALL RIGHT SO I 
GOT A COUPLE THINGS ARE ON 
THAT. 
>> AND WE WANT TO COME BUT I. 
>> AND THEN 2 HOURS ALL RIGHT. 
WE CAN TAKE TO HELP BREAK BUT 
THEN WHEN I COME BACK, I HOPE 
NOBODY IS GOING TO RUSH ME I 
KNOW I'M JUST BECAUSE IT'S 
ALREADY 7 O'CLOCK WE'VE GOT A 
LONG WHEN WE. I KNOW IT'S NOW 
7 O'CLOCK AND WILL RECONVENE 
AT 7.10 7.10 SHARP OKAY, 
AISLE. 
>> COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL. 
♪
YEAH, I'M HERE FOR YEAH THAT'S 
ALL ARE YOU READING THIS HAVE. 
>> ALL RIGHT GUYS AND 7.10 
WE'RE JUST FOR THE WE HAVE 
COMMISSIONER HANKS VICE MAYOR 
COMMISSIONERS ARE YOU THERE. 
COMMISSIONER YEAH OKAY JUST 
MAKING SURE THANK CITY 
ATTORNEY SHOULD BE OUT HERE 
SHE COMES THAT WE HAVE CITY 
MANAGER WE HAVE CITY CLERK, SO 
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET 
STARTED WE DO HAVE A CORE. ALL 
RIGHT SO I HAVE. TAKING CARE 
OF THE LITTLE PAPERWORK THINGS 
THAT I NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF 
AND HERE COMES COMMISSIONER 
EMERGE. SO THIS TIME I WOULD 
LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A POSITION 
THAT I SEE I'M SORRY GO AHEAD 
ABSOLUTELY. 
>> THE AGE 53 OF THE HISTORY. 
YES, YES. YOU CAN'T HEAR. 
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♪
>> 3, 8, 1, 5, 7, 48 ON THE 
PAGE DOES INCLUDE JUST ME. WE 
WERE TOLD IN JULY DID NOT 
BECAUSE IT HAD IT WAS A LIGHT 
BUT NOT THE AMOUNT WAS 
3 MILLION 5 9089 74. OKAY SO 
THIS IS THE CORRECT NUMBER 
YES. IT SURE YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO I GUESS THAT 
VOIDS THAT CONSENSUS IF THAT'S 
THE CORRECT NUMBER I THANK YOU 
FOR THAT CLARIFICATION ALL 
RIGHT SO. MY GOAL IS TO TRY 
AND GET EVEN MORE CUT OUT OF 
THIS BUDGET TO GET IT CLOSE AS 
POSSIBLE TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. 
WE HAVE A STAFF ASSISTANT 2 
POSITION IN A JAR. AND I KNOW 
THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS 
STRONG IN HAVING THIS POSITION 
FILLED. 
>> TO GREET OUR CITIZENS THAT 
COME INTO CITY HALL. WE HAVE 
BEEN CLOSED FOR 6 MONTHS. I 
DON'T SEE US REOPENING FIRST 
FLOOR ANYTIME SOON ESPECIALLY 
THE TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE 
ANYTIME SOON. NOT TO MENTION 
WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY QUICKLY 
PROBABLY GOING INTO 
REORGANIZATION OF FIRST FLOOR. 
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABOUT 
POSSIBLY GETTING RID OF THAT 
STAFF ASSISTANT 2 POSITION 
WHICH WOULD SAVE US CLOSE 
$70,000 A YEAR. SO THAT'S 
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
SOMETHING THAT I WILL. 
>> BE ASKING A MOTION ON AFTER 
WE HAVE THE FINAL DISCUSSIONS 
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS 
TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. GO AHEAD 
COMMISSIONER, SO I STARTED TO 
SEE A LIGHT ON. 
>> ALL RIGHT I NEED TO KNOW 
WHAT AT AFTER THE END. IT DOES 
FIRST $70,000. 
♪
>> IT'S THE 
♪
>> POSITION THAT AT THE FRONT 
DESK. 
>> SO 
>> I D I THAT MONTH OKAY, AND 
THERE'S NO LONGER IN THAT 
POSITION THERE THE PERSON WHO 
IS THERE IS NOW RETIRED RACK. 
>> CITY MANAGER HAVE TO WEIGH 
IN ON THAT OR PERSON THAT THEY 
COME FOR THE RECORD THE SCENE 
RESOURCES DIRECTOR. THAT 
POSITION IS CURRENTLY WELL I 
SOMEONE. ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU 
HAVE ABOUT A OR FRONT DESK IN 
THE 
>> ANGRY CITIZENS OF ON THE 
VISITORS. 
>> PROCESS ALL THE PACKAGES 
THAT COME THERE'S QUITE A LOT 
OF BUILDING HAS A LOT OF 
DIFFERENT SERVICES. THAT 
PERSON IS IN CHARGE OF MAKING 
SURE IN THE CORNER THERE WAS 
AN EMPTY DESK THERE AND IT'S 
PROVIDING A LEVEL OF SERVICE 
TO OUR CITIZENS IS A COMMENT. 
IS CURRENTLY POSITION. 
>> AND 
>> COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
>> I'M SORRY AND IT'S 
CURRENTLY BILL THAT CURRENTLY 
HELD WITH SOMEONE WHO SHIPPED 
IT POSITIONS IN THE AND THE. 
GALLERY WENT WITH THEM AND 
THAT'S WHY IT IS BUT IT IS 
POINT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE 
THERE AND WE HAVE A GENERAL 
WHEN THAT. WE'LL BE A DUE TO 
RETIREMENT. 
>> THE I HAVE DO NOT HAVE 
INFORMATION ON THAT. THIS BIT 
A LONG TERM EMPLOYER WITH BUT 
SLOWED EVERY YEAR. SO RIGHT. 
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF 
THERE WAS ANY HORIZON A 
REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE NEXT 
MONTH OR SOMETHING AND THEN WE 
COULD CUT THAT IN HALF LIKE 
YOU KNOW. 
>> WE'VE NOT BEEN INFORMED OF 
THAT. 
>> YEAH AND I STICK BY WHAT I 
INITIALLY HAD SAID. 
>> FIRST FLOOR IS CLOSED VERY 
FEW PEOPLE COME INTO CITY HALL 
RIGHT NOW. I COULD JUST CAN BE 
DELIVERED TO UTILITIES 
DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER 
DEPARTMENT THAT'S THERE. I 
DON'T SEE THE FIRST FLOOR 
OPENING ANYTIME SOON ANALYSTS 
CITY MANAGER YOU HAVE A BETTER 
IDEA. THAT ALSO IS PUT IN 
PLACE. PRIOR IS ACTING SO I'VE 
JUST AS WELL. 
>> HAVE THE DISCUSSION LATER, 
I MEAN MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS 
BECAUSE I HAD HEARD ABOUT OF 
US. CLARK'S POSITION WE WE CUT 
THE STAFF ONE. AND THEN 
SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED ABOUT 
POSSIBLY CHANGING A STAFF. 
>> WHAT IS THAT OTHER POSITION 
THE 2 POSITIONS AND MINISTRY 
OF SERVICE POSITION THANK YOU, 
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 
POSITION PUTTING ONE OF THOSE 
AND THEN HAVING TO STAFF ONE 
IT MAY BE THAT PERSON ANSWERS 
THE PHONE AND TAKES CARE OF 
THE DELIVERIES DOWNSTAIRS WHEN 
THAT'S FINALLY OPEN. I DON'T 
KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE UP TO 
CITY MANAGER TO RE CONFIGURE 
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT 
OF OVERLAP. I DON'T WILL HAVE 
TO HAVE THAT BIGGER 
DISCUSSIONS SO. THE OTHER 
THING IF ANYBODY WANTS TO 
WEIGH IN OR HAS ANY OTHER 
QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 
THAT STAFF LEVEL TO POSITION 
DEFUNDED. I COULD IMPACT OF 
IMMEDIATELY, BUT THAT WON'T 
HAPPEN. BUT OCTOBER 1ST. LIKE 
GUYS, I'M SURE THEY DON'T GET 
USED TO I'M SORRY 
>> I THINK WHEN. 
>> THE FIRST FLOOR CLOSE. THAT 
WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECT 
OPPORTUNITY TO FOR LOVE THAT 
DECISION. THAT PERSON IS 
POSITIONED WHAT NOT BEEN 
ELIMINATED. BUT THEY WOULD 
HAVE BEEN FURLOUGHED AND 
ACTUALLY OF FURLOUGH THROUGH 
THE STATE UNEMPLOYMENT. YOU 
PUT A SCHEDULE IN AND IT WORKS 
OUT EXTREMELY WELL. AND THEY 
KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT THEY 
RECEIVE THE BENEFITS YOU KNOW 
OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND THE 
STIMULUS THAT COMES FROM THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
>> I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF 
PEOPLE WHO MADE A WHOLE LOT 
MORE MONEY. IN AN EMPLOYED. 
AND I MEAN THEY MADE DOUBLE MY 
SALARY BEING UNEMPLOYED THEM 
PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED. SO TO 
ME. 
>> IT'S NEEDED A VOICE THAT I 
BELIEVE THAT POSITION COULD 
HAVE BEEN. OR LOAD IN AND 
SAVED. THE CITY. THANK YOU. 
>> AND COMMISSIONER MARCH ONE 
QUESTION THAT I WAS. BY THE 
FUNDING THIS IMMEDIATELY THAT 
WOULD BASICALLY PUT THAT 
INDIVIDUAL LOT OF A JOB HE CAN 
DEFUND IT IMMEDIATELY SERVE 
WELL THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE JUST 
WOULD KNOW AFFECTIVE OCTOBER 
1ST WHICH IS NEW BUDGET. 
>> OK YOU SAID JUST A MOMENT 
AGO IF I COULD GIVE YOU A GOOD 
WE CAN NOW BUT STILL IN 
OCTOBER, IF THEY'RE NOT 
LOOKING TO REBUT RETIRE IN 
OCTOBER. IT WOULD STILL TAKE 
AWAY THAT POSITION PERSON AND 
THAT PERSON WOULD NO LONGER. 
YES EMPLOYER. YES, THE THE 
ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE A TOUGHER 
LAW. BUT NOW THE RAMIFICATIONS 
ON THAT I WANT TO WHEN IT 
COMES TO THESE ME I DID NOT 
TAKE I'M NOT SAYING IT'S 
UNLIKELY NOT SAYING NOT SAYING 
THAT ALL I'M JUST SO ALL THE 
FACTS OUT THERE THAT'S ALL. I. 
>> THE OTHER THING I WOULD 
LIKE IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION 
ABOUT THE EDC. $74,000 TO 
SARASOTA COUNTY D C 
CORPORATION. I ASKED CITY 
MANAGER IF THE CONTRACT HAS 
BEEN SIGNED AND HE SAID NO THE 
MUNICIPALITIES HAVE NOT SIGNED 
A JET. THERE'S NO DATE TO SIGN 
IT SARASOTA COUNTY IS SUPPOSED 
TO SIGN IT I THINK THE 22ND OR 
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS LONG 
AFTER WE HAVE TO IMPROVE OUR 
BUDGET. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON 
2 YEARS. AND I AM OVER WHAT'S 
HAPPENING WITH THE SARASOTA 
COUNTY ABC AND THIS AGREEMENT. 
IT IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT ALL 
OF THE ITC JUST THAT I PLEASE 
FINISH JUST YOU TRYING TO 
CORRECT. 
>> IT IS OUR PRIORITY TO GET 
THIS AGREEMENT IN PLACE IT 
DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANYBODY 
ELSE'S PRIORITY WHETHER IT BE 
THE COUNTY WHERE THE ECB'S OR 
THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THE 
COUNTY CAN PUT. I DON'T KNOW 
IF PRESSURE IS THE RIGHT WORD, 
BUT URGENCY ON THE 
MUNICIPALITIES THE EDC CAN PUT 
URGENCY ON THE MUNICIPALITIES 
IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S NOT 
HAPPENING. THE COUNTY IS GOING 
TO POSSIBLY APPROVE THIS NEW 
AGREEMENT AFTER WE DO OUR 
BUDGET. AFTER WE IMPROVE OUR 
BUDGET THEY COULD ALSO NOT 
APPROVE THE AGREEMENT AND WE 
HAVE FUNDED THAT MONEY. I'M 
TIRED OF FUNDING THAT MONEY 
AND PAYING THAT MONEY WITHOUT 
AN AGREEMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE 
TO SAY DE FUNDED ENTIRELY. 
WHEN THE AGREEMENT COMES BACK 
THEN WE CAN DO A BUDGET 
AMENDMENT. AND THAT WAY THEN 
WE DON'T LOSE THE EDC ITS 
SENSES URGENCY INCREASES ON 
THEIR SIDE TO MATCH OUR 
URGENCY AND THEN WE STILL 
WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE 
FUNDING IN PLACE. SO THAT'S 
WHERE I AM ON ABC AND THAT'LL 
HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A 
CONVERSATION. 
>> AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY 
ARE 
>> ON THAT WHAT IS THAT WHAT 
WOULD THAT BE A OR IS AN 
IMPACT ON THE BUDGET AT 
$74,000 AND I. 
>> MILLAGE RATE WISE IT'S 
ABOUT. 
>> OH I DON'T KNOW MAYBE. 
>> WE 0, 1, 4, 9, 
>> GOING YOUR BABY DID YOU 
CALCULATE SO. 
>> MY QUESTION IS IS THERE A 
WAY THAT MAYBE WE ONLY ON. I'M 
NOT GOING TO HELP I DID 
EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 
MAYOR AND ALL WEEK. I SUPPORT 
IT I THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN ALL 
THEIR FEET TO FIRE AND YOU 
ENOUGH AND I THINK THE MONEY 
TALKING AND WALKING AT THE 
SAME TIME WILL HOLD THOSE FEET 
TO THE FIRE AND IF THEY WANT 
THE FUNDING THEY WILL GET 
THOSE AGREEMENT SIGNED AND 
THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PAY 
OFF. 
>> BUT I THINK WE NEED TO 
DEFUND IT ENTIRELY SO. THE 
OTHER THING IS THE HOLIDAY 
MORNING. 
>> STAFF HAS ASKED TO. PUT 
THOSE BACK INTO THE BUDGET TO 
WITH 
♪
PRIORITY LIST. 
>> AND I KIND OF LIKE TO PUT 
IT BACK OUT ON THE CITIZENS 
BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE HAD NO 
ORNAMENTS THERE WERE A LOT OF 
CITIZENS THAT CONTACTED ME AND 
I'M SURE EACH ONE OF YOU 
SAYING. 
>> BEEN A 100 BUCKS OUT OF BIN 
IN MAYBE YOU KNOW BUSINESSES 
ALL CHIP IN AND HAVE IT KIND 
OF LIKE A SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM. 
>> SO I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED 
TO REMOVE THAT FUNDING 
ENTIRELY. 
>> AND PUT IT OUT AS A CITIZEN 
INITIATIVE ONLY IF. STAFF IS 
COMING UP. 
>> MAYOR TOM DID USE IT TO DO 
SAY THAT THE ORNAMENTS ARE 
BACK IN. I CURRENTLY PERCENT 
OKAY. YEAH BECAUSE CURRENTLY 
WE'VE TAKEN IT OUT RIGHT YOU 
TOOK IT OUT THIS 2. YOU GUYS 
FIGURE HOW TO PUT IT BACK IN 
THE CITIZENS INITIATIVE. I GOT 
YOUR AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY 
FUNDING IT CORRECTLY AT LEAST 
AND THANK YOU LIKE A GO FUND 
ME ACCOUNT CHRISTMAS BECAUSE A 
LOT OF CITIZENS WERE VERY 
DISAPPOINTED NOT HAVING IT BUT 
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WOULD 
WE BE ABLE TO GET TO THOSE 
ORNAMENTS WERE LIGHTING. 
>> IN TIME FOR THIS HOLIDAY 
SEASON. 
>> FIRST OF FOR THE RECORD 
JULIANA BILLY OF PUBLIC WORKS 
DIRECTOR, THE LIGHTS WILL NOT 
BE IT WOULD BE ORNAMENTS WILL 
NOT BE ABLE TO BE LENT OKAY, 
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE NOT WHAT 
TYPE ORDINANCE BUT WE WOULD 
HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE BECAUSE 
OF COVID IT'S A LOT MORE 
DIFFICULT TO GET PRODUCTS SO 
WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AND 
WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT OKAY IT 
>> SO THERE'S QUESTION NO I 
HAVE COMMISSIONERS ON. MAY 
NOT. I KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS 
GOING HOME DOWN 41 AGAIN AND I 
SPOKE WITH THE IF THEY 
WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM 
ALLOWING A EVERY MEMBER IF 
THERE WAS ANYTHING FURTHER ON 
THERE. 
>> FDOT WILL ONLY ALLOW NOT 
LIT. 
>> HOW DECORATIONS ON THEIR 
POLLS AND WILL NOT WITH WITH 
THE WIDENING PROJECT IN THE 
NEW POLLS, IT DOES NOT WHAT. 
>> OR FOR WHAT HOW THE 
DECORATIONS THE ELECTRICAL 
RECEPTACLES ARE YOU KNOW THAT 
THAT'S CORRECT CITY MANAGER IS 
CORRECT THE DAY THE WAY 
THEY'RE WIRED. IT DOES NOT 
ACCOMMODATE THAT THEY WANT TO 
>> AND RIGHT THERE AT EVERY 
OPERATED LIFE NOW. 
>> DOT WILL NOT ALLOW THAT NO 
MAN WE HAVE CHECKED WITH THEM 
THEY HAVE TO BE NOT WHAT WE 
HAVE TO HAVE THEM ENGINEER 
THERE'S THERE'S A WHOLE 
PERMITTING PROCEDURE WILL HAVE 
TO GO THROUGH. WE CAN ALWAYS 
JUST POKING AT ONE TIME POLLS 
ON SUMPTER AND TOLEDO. YES, 
MA'AM YES, MA'AM THAT WE CAN 
DO IS FAN. 
>> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD OF 
MISS JULIE I DO SEE THAT IT IS 
BACK IN THE BUDGET IT'S 
UNFUNDED BUT IT HAS A PRIORITY 
OF NUMBER 16 TO BE ADDED BACK 
IN THE BUDGET. IS THAT 
CORRECT. 
>> I I HAVE IT MY AGENDA 
PACKET IS UNFUNDED WE PUT IN 
FOR IT TO BE ON FUNDED AND 
LESS. 
>> KIM HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT 
SO I THINK IT FATHER'S BUT 
THESE ARE IF WE WERE TO ADD I 
>> IT COMES AS NUMBER 16 OF 
22. 
>> LOOKING AT THIS. 
>> WHY ARE WE. ONES THAT ARE 
I'M A PRIORITY LIST TO ME THAT 
MEANS IT'S UNFUNDED ON THE 
PRIORITY LIST AND NOT IN THE 
BUDGET ACT. 
>> WE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU 
WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE THAT WE 
ENDED UP. DID NOT END UP IN 
THE BUDGET FOR TONIGHT. WE 
UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU ONE OF THE 
PRIORITY LIST OF HOW WE WOULD 
ADD THOSE BACK IF REVENUES 
ALLOW IN 2021 THINGS ARE 
BETTER THAN WE EXPECTED. 
HERE'S HOW ADAM BY WHAT IT. 
>> OKAY AND I HEAR YOU. BUT 
THE BOTTOM LINE, THE CURRENT 
EXPENDITURE TOTAL OF 50,001 98 
OR 50 MILLION 1.98 INCLUDES. 
ALL THOSE THAT ARE. IM PUT 
BACK IN. RIGHT YEAH. 
>> YES INCLUDES ALL THOSE THAT 
ARE BEING PUT BACK AND THESE 
ARE NOT BACK IN OKAY LIST OF 
PRIORITIES ARE NOT 
>> BUT THEY'RE ON THE BUDGET 
ADJUSTMENT SHEET THAT IS IN 
THE BACKUP MATERIAL AND IT'S 
CLEARLY LISTED. 
>> AND THAT SHE AND IT'S THE 
MATCHING MAYOR HAD THE SAME 
PROBLEM. IT'S MATCHING THE 
CURRENT RESCUE TOLLS SO TO ME 
AND SAYING THAT. IT'S AN 
UNFUNDED IT SAYS ON FUNDED. 
BUT THEN. IT APPEARS THAT IS 
FUN. NO THERE THERE. 
>> THIS IS IN THE LAST MEETING 
I THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE LEFT 
THE LAST MEETING. THEY WERE 
TAKEN OUT. WE'RE GOING TO 
DISCUSS THAT AT THIS MEETING 
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE 
TAKING OUT SO THOSE NUMBERS 
AND THE BUDGET SHOULD STILL BE 
ACTIVE IN THE BUDGET UNTIL WE 
TAKE THAT LIST AND SAY OK WE 
DON'T WANT TAKE IT OUT. NOW 
THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER LAST 
MADE THE APP AND. 
>> NO NO IT'S FAIR THING IN 
THEY WERE TO PULL OUT WHAT 
THEY KNEW THEY DIDN'T WANT 
AND. 
>> AND THAT'S WHAT THIS LIST 
SO SAD TO FIGHTING YOU'RE 
LIVING AREA BUT JUST MONTHS 
SINCE AUGUST 17. YOU CAN SEE 
WE STARTED WITH THE BEGINNING 
EXPENSE TOTAL OF 50 MILLION. 
>> WE ADDED THAT THE 300,008 
800,000 THOSE FIRST 2 LINES. 
>> THAT'S WHAT FIRST 
EVERYTHING THAT WE DID FOR 
THAT BUDGET REDUCTION STRATEGY 
FOR THE OFFICE 17 WE REVERSED 
IN THOSE 2 LINES. 
>> WE SAID DEPARTMENT HEADS 
WHAT CUTS CAN MUTATE LET US 
KNOW. WHEN THEY CAME BACK AND 
SAID WE CAN CUT THESE HOLIDAY. 
>> DECORATIONS YOU CAN SEE ON 
THE SECOND PAGE IF YOU GO NOW 
UNTIL YOU SEE 21,000 OUR 
WILSON. 
>> IN 2,500. ALL THE ORNAMENTS 
THAT'S WHERE WE TOOK IT OUT 
AGAIN. SO WE TOOK IT OUT FOR 
THE AUGUST 17TH MEETING THAT 
ARE ACTUALLY PUT EVERYTHING 
BACK AND WE DID THAT. 
>> AND THEN THE PARK THE JOY 
SAID HEY WE CAN TAKE THAT CUT 
SO WE TOOK IT OUT 
>> I STILL THINK WE CAN DO A 
CITIZEN INITIATIVE ON 
SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I DON'T 
KNOW IF STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO 
GET THEM ORDERED HIM PICTURED 
IN TIME FOR THIS HOLIDAY, BUT 
IF ANYTHING WE COULD PROBABLY 
START A CAMPAIGN FOR NEXT 
HOLIDAY SEASON. AS LONG AS THE 
CITIZENS UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR 
THE NEXT HOLIDAY SEASON. SO 
THAT WE HAVE TIME TO IF THAT 
FUNDING AND GET THAT WORD OUT 
GET THE GO FUND ME ACTIVE AND 
THEN BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME. 
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANTED 
TO JUST DROP THERE. 
>> SO MANY OF THE STAFF'S 
HAAS. THAT THEY PROPOSED IN 
AUGUST. THEY CHOSE THOSE POTS 
TO HELP MAKE THE BUDGET 
SHORTFALLS BUT A LOT OF THOSE 
ITEMS MADE IT BACK IN. AND I'D 
LIKE TO POSSIBLY AT SOME POINT 
WHEN WE GO THROUGH MOTIONS AND 
STUFF. SEE ABOUT ADDING ABOUT 
REMOVING THE REAL ESTATE 
ACQUISITION CONSULTANT BECAUSE 
RIGHT NOW. 
>> I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S 
GOING TO BE BUYING OR SELLING 
MUCH OF ANYTHING. 
>> I INTERACTED GROWTH MODEL. 
THE ARCHAEOLOGIST ABSOLUTELY 
CAN GO WE DO NOT NEED TO GROW. 
MORE POSITIONS. THE FAMILY 
SERVICES OPERATIONAL NEEDS ITF 
GRADES SOCIAL SERVICES. THE 
HOUSING AND LIFE SKILLS 
SPECIALIST I ALREADY AGREED 
WITH VICE MAYOR WHEN SHE 
BROUGHT THAT ONE UP. THE 
TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT SERVICES 
AND AS THE EYE TO USE SECURITY 
PLATFORM SOFTWARE'S. 
>> AND THEN. 
>> I AND I HAVE TO ASK POLICE 
CHIEF THIS QUESTION. THEY 
REMOVED TRAINING FOR 21,400. I 
WENT BACK TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT 
IT'S NOT CALLED THE SLA AT 
BUDGET PROPOSAL. THANK AND. 
IT'S NOT FOR TRAINING, IT'S 
IT'S TRAVELED HER DMX THE 
CATEGORY IT'S UNDER IT'S UNDER 
THE 4, 0 DASH 0, 0, ACCOUNT. 
TRAINING ALREADY HAS A 
$106,600 IN SO I'M NOT SURE 
WHAT THIS 21,000 FOR TRAVEL 
AND PER DIEM FOR. 
>> THERE'S A CHEAPER PLACE 
$10,000 OF THAT IS FOR A BOMB 
TECH TO GO TO THE REQUIRED 
BOMB SCHOOL. AND THAT INCLUDES 
TRAVEL TRAINING. 
>> OKAY SO. $10,000 IS FOR THE 
>> OR THE CLASS TRAINING OR DM 
YES IT'S A IT'S A VERY 
CERTIFICATION. WE DON'T THAT. 
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD BOMB 
SCENE. THIS RECURRING EVERY 
YEAR. 
>> SO WHAT THE OTHER 11,004 
THAT IN TRAVEL AND PERDIA 
YOU'RE INCREASING THE ONLY 
CATEGORY ON THIS IS IT WHAT I 
CAN TELL IS ONLY INCREASING 
TRAVELING FOR THE OUT. IT'S 
NOT INCREASING CHENEY, EVEN 
THOUGH THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET 
PROPOSAL THAT'S EXACTLY WHICH 
PAID 103. THE 40 TON OF THE 
PROPOSAL 1714. THAT WILL BE 
FOR THE PAGE AND THEY ARE ON. 
♪
♪
HD MARKED CAGE. AND THE THAT 
WE ARE PROVIDED IN JULY IT'S 
ON PAGE 41. 
>> WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT 
MAYOR CAN YOU RUN DOWN. THAT 
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THAT 
YOU WANT OUT THAT IN PLACE 
BACK IN. 
>> YEAH I THINK I CAN GO 
THROUGH IT SO THE TRAVEL 
BEYOND IS THAT A NO OK THANK 
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK OF 
COURSE, YEAH THANK YOU. 
>> ON PAGE 40 THE TRAVEL AND 
PRETTY AND IT SAYS PROPOSAL 
NUMBER 1714 AND IT'S 4 21,400. 
YOU'RE AT SO I'M SORRY YOUR 
BUDGET PROPOSAL SAYS IT'S 4 
TRAIN. AND IT'S NOT TRAINING. 
AND 
>> AND I APOLOGIZE I FOUND 
THIS AT THE 11TH HOUR AND I 
HAD NO TIME TO ASK THIS AHEAD 
OF TIME. 
ONE. 
I HAVE NO 
PROBLEM WITH 70 PER HOUR. 
OFFICERS ARE FOREVER FOR ON 
TECH NOTHING THAT'S VERY 
IMPORTANT. I'M JUST TRYING TO 
SAYS FOR A TRAIN FOR NEWLY 
PROMOTED SUPERVISORS AND NEWLY 
ASSIGNED PROTECT US FROM 
TRAINING. 
>> AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL 
CANINES WE PUT ON. ALSO 
INCLUDES ARE ON SITE 
ACCREDITATION CYCLE. OKAY SO 
WE HAVE WE'RE WORK FOR MARK 
ACCREDITATION. YEAH. AND WE 
HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ASSESSOR'S 
COME HERE TO. WELL THEY GO 
THROUGH A MOCK ASSESSMENT. 
>> $11,000 TO PAY THEM FIRST 
AND IT WILL NOT JUST THAT 
EVERYTHING ELSE THEY JUST 
ADDED TO THAT IS PART OF THAT. 
>> IT IS ALL. 
>> 100% AND THEY'RE TRAVELING 
PERDIA. I THINK MY QUESTION IS 
HOW MUCH IS TRAVELING PERDIA 
AND HOW MUCH IS ACTUAL TRAINS. 
>> BECAUSE IT SURE MEAN 
TRAINING BECAUSE IT WAS IN 
TRAINING TRAINING IS UNDER AND 
THE WELL, SOME 55 DASH 0, 0, 
WE U.S.. JUST TO SCHOOL FOR 
JOB. THAT'S THE TRUTH. SO THIS 
IS THE 70 SO. 
>> THE BOTTOM SCHOOL A HOTEL 
AND TRAVEL OVER THE 7,000. 
$750 JUST TRAVEL AND THE U.S.. 
OKAY. 
>> THIS CAME TO USE DO YOU 
UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION. IT IS. 
>> THEY HAVE ALLOCATED IN THIS 
HTE ALL $21,400 AND ARE 
TRAVELING FOR D. JUST LIKE THE 
BUDGET PROPOSAL SAYS IT'S 
TRAVELING PERDIAN FOR I'M 
SORRY IT SAYS FOR $21,400. IT 
IS FOR TRAVEL OVER TO HIM. AND 
FOR TRAINING IT SHOULD BE 
SEPARATED OUT SOME $100 IN 
TRAVEL X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN 
TRAINING ITS WE CAN SPLIT UP. 
>> IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OK WE 
CAN MAKE IT OUT. 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S 
LOOKING RIGHT NOW. IT IS ALL 
JUST HOTEL AND FOOD. AND 
THAT'S WHY I HAD A QUESTION 
ABOUT YEAH. THANK YOU. 
>> SO WAITING FOR AN ANSWER 
PROMPTED ANOTHER QUESTION. 
>> ANNUAL SCHOOL RESOURCE 
OFFICERS, THE TRAINING IS 
$1900. 
>> WHY ARE WE TRAINING THEM 
WHEN WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE 
RENEW THEIR CONTRACT THAT THE. 
SUBCONTRACTORS RESPONSIBLE FOR 
TRAINING. WHY ARE WE FUNDING 
TRAINING FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE 
THIS IS FOR FAST RULE. 
>> THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF 
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS 
YEARLY CONFERENCE. TRAINING 
COMFORTS. 
>> WHY ARE WE GOING TO THAT 
WHEN WE HAVE SUBCONTRACTORS 
THAT ARE DOING IT. THIS IS 
FROM ACTON SCHOOL THAT WE 
WRITE. 2 OFFICERS AND WE STILL 
HAVE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS 
IN THE CITY. I FORGOT ABOUT 
IMAGINE AND THE SCHOOL 
RESOURCE OFFICERS AND JUST 
TRYING TO SAVE $2000. IS IT. 
YEAH, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR ME 
TO FORGET ABOUT IMAGINE 
BECAUSE I JUST ALWAYS SAY WE 
HAVE TO HIGH SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT 
SO HOPEFULLY STAFF YOU'LL 
YOU'LL CRASH THAT PUT IT UP 
HERE. WITHIN HIS OR HER 
ATTORNEY. SO COMMISSIONER 
CARUSONE WANTED MY LIST AGAIN. 
>> IT WAS THE REAL ESTATE 
ACQUISITION CONSULTANT AND 
THAT WAS $15,000. NOT ACTIVE 
GROWTH MODEL WHICH WAS 
$75,000. 
>> THE ARCHAEOLOGISTS I ONLY 
OWN GAIN BROKEN LINE THING IS 
KILLING OKAY GOTCHA. 
>> AND ARCHAEOLOGIST FOR 
$51,780. FAMILY SERVICE 
OPERATIONAL NEEDS $6,000. 
>> AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS 
LOOKING FOR. I THOUGHT THAT 
WAS 
THINKING NOW. 
>> AND THEY PUT IT BACK IN. 
>> I DON'T. AND LIFE SERVICE 
AFTER NEEDS FIRST 6,000 I 
DON'T SEE IT AS THIS INGEST 
IT. IT WAS. 
>> PART OF THE BUDGET 
PROPOSALS THAT GOT REVERSED. 
>> ON AUGUST 17TH, I'M LOOKING 
AT THE BACK OF. AND I THAT 
$6,000 REPRESENTED ON HERE 
THAT I AM AIR LET ME GET IS A 
FAMILY SERVICE ENTERED 
THE EU. 
>> OPERATIONAL NEEDS OKAY 
OKAY. 
>> SORRY, I JUST TO THAT. THEN 
WE HAVE I T UPGRADES FOR 
SOCIAL SERVICES FOR $22,000. 
>> ON THE OTHER I DON'T I. 
THEY DOWN TURN. THE RIGHT 
UNDERNEATH OKAY. 
>> AND HOUSING LIFE SKILLS 
SPECIALIST OR 56,400. 
>> OKAY. 
>> AND THEN WE HAVE 
>> I T TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT 
SERVICES FOR $63,540. 
>> OK GOT IT, ALL 
>> I T SECURITY PLATFORM 
SOFTWARE FOR $20,130. 
>> HERE IN PLATFORMS HALF 
WHERE I AS BLACK. I DON'T SEE 
THAT. 
>> JACK CAN HANG YEAH. 
>> I GOT HIS STORAGE AREA. IS 
47. 
>> AND HANG ON HANG ON. 
>> I USE THE I DON'T KNOW 
WHERE I GOT THAT NUMBER MY 
APOLOGIES, IT'S 15,008 30. 
OKAY THERE, I'M SORRY GO 
AHEAD. 
>> FOR THE BEFORE THE AUGUST 
MEETING THEY REDUCE THAT 
BUDGET PROPOSAL TO 4300 AND 
THAT'S WHERE THE 15 8.30 IS 
THE DIFFERENCE. THAT'S WHY OK 
SO I WAS GOING IN THE BUDGET 
BOOK AND THE NUMBERS IN THE 
BUDGET BOOK SO THEY'RE 
DECREASING IT BY 15,000 THAT'S 
WHAT WE DID IN AUGUST. WHAT 
SEE WHAT WE CAN AND NOW IT'S 
ALL. AND NOW THEY'RE PUT THE 
WHOLE THING BACK IN TO KEEP IT 
THE 20,002, I WAS RIGHT AT THE 
20 BANDS AT THE 20,001 30. SO 
20,001 30 IS CORRECT. AND 
THERE. AND THE I T AND I JUST 
THAT IN THE EMAIL ABOUT ONE. 
ICI IS PUTTING IN MONEY 
$247,000 FOR THEIR ESSAY AND 
NETWORK REPLACEMENT. WHEN I 
READ THE INITIAL BUDGET 
PROPOSAL ON THAT I THOUGHT 
THEY WERE ACTUALLY REPLACE 
INA. IT THIS YEAR. BUT IT 
APPEARS THEY ARE PUTTING IT 
INTO LIKE A CAP EX FUN. 
>> REALLY AND NOW IT'S THAT 
INFORMATION BUT ALL RIGHT. 
>> IN THE BUDGET PROPOSAL SHE 
DID IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE 
LIKE HAVE FACTS I WAS ASKING. 
WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE A CAP EX 4 
I T. AND THEN THEY EXPLAINED 
THAT THIS TO $47,000 IS 
BASICALLY PUTTING IT INTO A 
CAP EX 4 IS THAT CORRECT TO 
CITY MANAGER STAFF. THIS SO 
MAYBE WE CAN REDUCE THAT 
AMOUNT BECAUSE IT'S NOT 
REPLACING THESE STORAGE THINGS 
IMMEDIATELY NEXT YEAR. 
>> IT'S ADDING TO A CAP 
EX-COUNCIL MAYBE WE CAN REDUCE 
THAT A LITTLE BIT I DON'T 
KNOW. 
>> OK SO THAT ALL TO SHOW SO 
IT'S TOUGH. 
>> IT WAS A FOR THE RECORD TRY 
NOT TO MANAGER. AREA NETWORK. 
IT'S A PIECE OF HARDWARE THAT 
IS ON A 5 YEAR REPLACEMENT 
SCHEDULE. AND SO IT'S YOU 100 
NOW IT WOULD BE EXTRA NEXT 
YEAR. BE ABLE TO TO. MAKE THAT 
PURCHASE. OKAY, BUT. 
>> IT'S WHAT SO YOU'RE 
ACTUALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO 
REPLACE IT THIS YEAR NOW. 
>> SO THAT PLUS ADDITIONAL 
MONIES NEXT YEAR WILL ON THE 
REPLACEMENT OF THAT. SO WE 
STARTED SAVING LAST YEAR. 
>> OKAY SO THIS IS GOING INTO 
THE CAP EX 4 YES. YOU HAVE TO 
HAVE ALL OF IT. I YOU DO LIKE 
HALF. 
>> THIS YEAR. IS HALF. 
>> SO WE'VE GOT A QUARTER LAST 
YEAR WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A 
QUARTER OF THIS YEAR OKAY NOW 
I'M REALLY CONFUSED. 
>> BECAUSE MY E-MAIL SAYS. DO 
WE SAYS THAT NO THERE'S NO 
MONEY IN YOUR PAYCHECKS ON 
RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT THERE 
WAS ONLY JUST SAID THERE'S A 
QUARTER OF IT. WE DIDN'T GET 
LAST YEAR. IT WAS THOUGHT OF 
AS MAMA SAID. SO WHAT THEY'RE 
HANG ON ONE 2ND COMMISSIONER, 
SOME PLEASE. 
>> I'M GOING TO TRY TO HELP 
ANSWER THE QUESTION I GUESS IT 
SOUNDS LIKE THAT NEXT YEAR YOU 
BE COMING BACK WITH 2.47 500 
FOR THE 2 CORRIDORS. IF WE 
REDUCE THAT BY AP. 
>> EXACTLY TO PAY NOW PAY 
LATER I GET HAD WORDS OF I T 
SO THIS YEAR WE'RE ASKING IN 
FISCAL YEAR 21 FOR THE 2 47 5 
TO PAY FOR HALF AND THEN THE 
TO 47 AT NEXT FISCAL YEAR 2022 
TO PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL HALF 
SO THE 2 HOLES COME UP TO THE 
500,000 THAT WE NEED TO 
REPLACE THE WHOLE SAN. IN 
FISCAL YEAR 2022. AS WE CAN'T 
REPLACE IT PEACE PART WE HAVE 
TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME WHOLE 
THING, YES AND ACTUALLY WAY 
ASKED HOW COME THIS ISN'T LIKE 
A CAP EX KIND OF THING BECAUSE 
IT'S SUCH A LARGE MY MONEY AND 
I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD 
THOUGHT THAT WE WERE DOING IT 
THIS YEAR AS WELL BUT IT IT IT 
DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE WAY WE 
THOUGHT IT WAS GOING THROUGH 
WE HAVE TO NOW AND IT OUT NEXT 
YEAR 2021. AND 2022 TO MAKE 
THAT EXPENDITURES. 
>> AND JESSICA THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH, YOU'RE WELCOME NEXT YEAR 
WHEN YOU GUYS DO THE SHEETS IF 
AN YEAH THIS IS EXTREMELY 
MISLEADING AND IT DOESN'T SAY 
ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE JUST 
TALKED ABOUT ON THAT SHE I AND 
ALL THE 70 READING. 
>> FOR THE ALL THE CAP TAX 
FUNDS. SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING 
ABOUT I'M LOOKING AT THE 
BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WAS GIVEN 
TO US TO DO. IT DOESN'T 
BUDGET. IT'S ALL RIGHT SO I 
WAS GOING TO TRY NOT FUNDED A 
100% BUT HOW LONG DOES. HOW 
LONG. I HATE THIS PHRASE. 
>> HOW ONE DOES YOUR STORAGE 
THINGS AND MEET ITS END OF 
USEFUL LIFE. 
>> ALL THE MALL. 
>> CAN BE. MIKE KUNZ HAVE TO 
CONSIDER LEAGUE CAP TAX ON 
SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO YOU'RE 
PULLING OUT A 100,000 A AND 
SAID OF COURSE YOU KNOW PM AND 
WE REALIZE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 
BEEN DOING THIS FOR I DID NOT 
REALIZE THAT WE WERE THAT WE 
COULD SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WE 
ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT 
THAT. 
>> AND THAT NOT ONLY JUST FOR 
THIS BUT I WOULD ASSUME ALL OF 
THE OTHER. I T RELATED 
VEHICLES YOU GUYS USE SHOULD 
BE IN SO THAT WE THAT IS NOT 
THESE LARGE TIPS THAT'S THE 
WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING KEPT 
ACT. SO CALL THANK YOU OUT. 
>> SO THAT STRETCHES THAT IDEA 
TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE BUDGET 
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S 
IN THERE. SO. 
>> SO WE CROSS TO OFF MY LIST, 
THANK YOU. 
>> YOU HAVE ADDRESS OTHER, I E 
ONE BECAUSE. KIND OF WELL. 
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 
ON THE OTHER 80 ONES THEM ON 
ASKING THIS DOESN'T HAVE A 
REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET THEY 
ALREADY USE E. 
>> THE ON THE INFORMATION 
TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES AND THE 
THAT ONE IS THERE REASON FOR 
THAT 20,000. 
>> SECURITY PLATFORM OFF WHERE 
YOU IT JUST IS. 
>> TECHNOLOGY OR YOU INGEST 
ED. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I WANNA 
KNOW WHAT IT IS SMART MOVE 
LIKE IN THIS HACK YOU REMOVE 
THEM. YOU KNOW. 
>> AND COMMISSIONERS ON I HEAR 
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT BASED 
ON THE MY QUESTIONS MY 
QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AS TO 
WHAT THE PURPOSES. WE'RE OF 
EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. I AM 
GOING BY THE FACT THAT STAFF 
SAID IN AUGUST. WE CAN REMOVE 
THESE ITEMS. SO WE TO ME THAT 
SAME WE DON'T NEED STAFF IS 
JUST PUTTING THEM BACK IN. I 
AM TRYING TO REDUCE THE 
MILLAGE RATE EVEN MORE. 
>> THAT'S WHAT MY CHEMICAL 
MAKER. 
>> UNDERSTAND WHOLEHEARTEDLY 
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND 
AND I SAID IT REPEATEDLY IN 
THE PAST MEETING. 
THESE WERE NOT. YES, TIONS 
THAT AND I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. 
IT WAS I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A 
IF I GOT TO DO IT I GOT TO DO 
IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO CREATE A 
PROBLEM. IN THE LONG RUN IN 
MAY CREATE A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW 
I I GUESS I HAVE 
TO DO IT NOT THE SAME AS 
SAYING I DON'T NEED IT. NOW 
THAT LIONS A AND IT'S OBVIOUS 
AFTER THE LAST THAT SOME OF 
THESE THINGS THAT WERE 
PREVENTED. WE'RE NOT VERY 
CLEAR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU 
KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY OR SERVICE 
IS. I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW 
THAT IS AND WHAT THE SECURITY 
PLATFORM WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE 
OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS ARE 
CONCERNED ABOUT YOU YOU WE GOT 
RID OF THAT IDEA. YOU KNOW ANY 
OF THE OTHER I E RELATED ASH 
AND A REDUCTION THAT YOU 
MENTION BEFORE I MAKE A 
DECISION THAT REALLY KNOW WHAT 
THOSE TECHNOLOGY. I JUST MEANT 
BEING PUT BACK IN. 
>> BUT THE IMPLICATION, YEAH I 
WOULD I WOULD LIKE THAT ALSO 
WOULD LIKE THEM TO COMMENT ON 
IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE 
WHAT IT DOES TO THE FUTURE 
YEARS. IF YOU DON'T OBTAIN 
THIS OR NOT ABLE FORM THIS 
THIS YEAR. BUT RIPPLE EFFECT 
WOULD TAKE PLACE. 
>> SO I WAS NOT PART OF THE 
CONVERSATION TO REMOVE ISN'T 
DONE WITH US. SO I THINK 
THERE'S A DISCONNECT THERE 
WITH ME HAVING THEM BACK TO 
HIM. 
>> OKAY YOU HOLD ON ONE 2ND. 
THANK YOU. 
♪
>> SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A 
DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT 
SO WE'LL LET YOU GUYS TO 
FIGURE THAT ONE OUT BUT. 
>> THE TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT 
SERVICES. IT WAS ON CHOPPING 
BLOCK IN AUGUST RIGHT. 
>> AND NOW IT'S BACK IN THE 
BUDGET. SO I THINK THE 
QUESTION IS STAFF MY FELLOW 
COMMISSIONERS WANT TO KNOW 
WHAT THE PURPOSES OF THIS. 
>> BUDGET PROPOSAL ITEM. 
>> BEFORE YOU ANSWER IS THAT I 
WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION SO IN 
AUGUST YOU DID NOT. SAY THAT 
THESE 3 ITEMS THAT SHE'S 
MENTIONING. SHOULD BE ON THE 
CHOPPING BLOCK. MAYBE SOMEBODY 
ELSE WITH THEM ON THE CHOPPING 
BLOCK FOR YOU. I'M NOT TRYING 
TO CAUSE THAT KIND HIM ASKED I 
JUST LIKE CLARITY AS TO 
WHETHER DIRECTOR OF THAT 
DEPARTMENT CHOSE THOSE 
BECAUSE. IT WASN'T NECESSARY 
OR. 
>> YOU COULD DO WITHOUT THEM 
SO JUST LIKE SOME CLARITY TO 
IT WHEN WE WERE SAVED THE 
BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND REALIZE 
HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 
TO CUT OUR GENERAL FUND 
BUDGET. 
>> FINANCE WE TOOK A LOOK AT 
ALL NEW BUDGET PROPOSALS. WE 
DID NOT GO TO ANYONE'S FACE 
BUDGET ANYTHING THEY HAD IN 
THE PRIOR YEAR WE DID NOT LOOK 
AT. WE LOOKED AT NEW PROPOSALS 
WE ELIMINATED THOSE THAT WERE 
REVENUE NEUTRAL AND SAID THAT 
WOULD BE SENSELESS TO CUT THAT 
WE CREATED A LIST TO GET AS 
CLOSE ENOUGH TO BEING IN 
DALLAS, WE STILL AS YOU 
REMEMBER WE'RE NOT IN BALANCE. 
WE GOT CLOSE AS WE CAN GET IT 
BEING IN BALANCE WITHIN REASON 
WE SEND THEM ALL TO THE 
DEPARTMENT'S WE MET WITH THEM 
IN PERSON IN THE DIRECTOR'S 
MEETING AND SON HEARS A THIS 
IS NOT A POSITION WE WANT TO 
BE AN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING 
YOU WANT TO BUT WE'RE TRYING 
TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. 
>> IF ANY OF THESE YOU CANNOT 
LIVE WITHOUT LET US KNOW WE 
HAD A GROUP CONVERSATION. 
>> I'M SORRY THAT SO THIS WAS 
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REMEMBER 
THAT CONVERSATION. THERE WAS A 
GROUP CONVERSATION AS IS THE 
DIRECTOR'S WE. 
>> THANK YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE 
TO HEAR THEM AS OTHER 
COMMISSIONERS WOULD TOO. BUT 
THIS I T UPGRADE THE SUPPORT 
SERVICE AND THE PLATFORM WOULD 
MEAN TO YOU GUYS THIS YEAR 
PLACE. I GREAT IT IS SERVICES 
IT'S NOT US. WHAT IS IT FOR. 
>> I KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR AND 
SOMEBODY FROM STAFF TO EXPLAIN 
EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS FOR SO 
THEY CAN DETERMINE IF THERE'S 
GOING AGREE WITH ME TO REMOVE 
IT OR DISAGREE WITH ME TO BE 
IMPROVING TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT 
SERVICES. THOSE WITH YOU GUYS 
ABOUT OUR FIRST MEETING IT'S 
A. AND BALDING SO. I WANT 
CONSULTANT SERVICE. A NUMBER 
OF AND. I T S SPORTS AND THE 
FIELD THAT CAN HELP US. STREAM 
THE SERVICES THEY WILL REVIEW 
ALL CONTRACTS. 
>> THEY WILL REVIEW. DOLLARS 
WE'RE SPENDING HOW TO BEST 
SPEND THOSE DOLLARS. 
>> IT WILL REVIEW. 
>> WHERE WE EXIST ON A 
MATURITY MODEL AS AN I T 
ORGANIZATION HOW TO GET US TO 
THE NEXT STEP. ONE OF THE 
THINGS THAT HAS. TELL DO TO 
BUILD THE BUSINESS CASE OR 
THIS REQUEST. LET'S LOOK AT 
OUR SECURITY AND WHERE WE 
STAND COMPARED TO OUR PEERS 
AND WHERE WE STAND. IN 
RELATION TO WHERE WE NEED TO 
BE TO HAVE A SECURE I D 
ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WE HAVE 
THAT INFORMATION THEY DO 
ASSESSMENTS. OR THE WORK THAT 
PROVIDE. AND CAN HELP ON. 
SAVINGS. ON. OVERLAP IN 
PRODUCTS. PERHAPS WE BOUGHT A 
PHONE SYSTEM. HE SAYS OF. 
OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR SERVICES 
TO MANAGE THOSE PHONE SYSTEMS 
AND THEY CAN TELL PERHAPS WE 
CAN SAVE MONEY BY SELECTING 2 
OF THOSE PRODUCTS OR DIFFERENT 
PRODUCTS. IT PROVIDES THE SAME 
SERVICE. SO THEY HAVE A OF 
RESEARCHERS. WELL ALSO POLICY. 
AND HOW WE ARE WRITING THOSE 
AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS A 
CITY. 
>> MAYOR WHEN YOU'VE DONE IT 
LIKE A QUESTIONED. 
>> AND THINK HE ANSWERED IT 
COMMISSIONER SOME GO AHEAD 
PLEASE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER 
SOME WHAT. 
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS 
TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE. 
>> IT'S A CONSULTANT. 
>> AND NOW I KNOW I'M JUST 
WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING 
AT THE REC I E LINE IT WAS 
ABOUT THE IT WAS 1, 6, 7, 2, 
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 
UPGRADES KNOW WE WERE TALKING 
HE JUST ANSWERED EL TECHNOLOGY 
SUPPORT SERVICES BUDGET 
PROPOSAL NUMBER 1, 5, HE HAD A 
BIT OF THAT. 
>> THIS IS ESSENTIALLY AN 
GROUP. 
>> YES BASICALLY THAT'S. 
>> RIGHT NOW SIMILAR LIKE A 
STAR HAS BEEN CARING 
>> GROUP THIS IS KIND OF 
SIMILAR THEY LOOK AT THIS 
MISSION IS DOES THIS HAVE 
ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT 
THAT WE HAVE. 
DIFFERENT BY THE TECHNOLOGY IN 
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THIS 
WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE DID 
NOT WEAR, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT 
IF BUILDING ACTUALLY WHEN I 
LEAVE WHICH COINCIDE WITH THE 
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH 
COINCIDE WITH PLANNING. 
THEN ALL OF THAT. 
>> IT WOULD HELP ASSIST WITH 
THAT. YES. 
>> AND THOUGHT. 
>> HE'S DOING IT NOW. AS BEST 
THEY CAN, I'M SORRY STAT IS 
BEST THAT TIME IS IT. 
>> IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT 
NOT BY TOO MUCH TECHNOLOGY 
SOFTWARE SEE IS THIS SOMETHING 
THAT CAN WAIT A YEAR. WITH 
YOUR THANK YOU. 
>> NEXT ITEM ON YOUR LIST WAS 
VERY QUIET FOR NOW. 20,000. SO 
WE ARE INCREASING. THE 
TEACHERS. OF WHAT PRODUCT 
DOES. 
THE 4300. WAS WHAT WAS IN THE 
BUDGET PREVIOUSLY WERE ASKING 
FOR ANOTHER 15. FOR INCREASED 
FEATURES. 
>> APPROXIMATELY $20,000. ONE 
30. 
>> IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN 
WAIT A YEAR. 
>> PREFERRED NOT. WE PUT IT ON 
I WILL I WILL TELL YOU. I'M 
AFRAID TO SAY A PUBLIC FORUM 
THAT WE SPEND LESS THAN ONE 
PERCENT. ALRIGHT TO BUDGET ON 
SECURITY. IT'S 
>> I GUESS THAT'S WHY. MIKE IN 
THE FACE REALITY HAHA. THANK 
YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I 
GUESS THE LAST ONE WE'RE STILL 
COMMISSIONER SOME WANTED TO 
KNOW WHAT THE I T UPGRADES FOR 
SOCIAL SERVICES AND 2. 
>> MEAN 
>> COULD BE A SOCIAL SERVICES 
MANAGER. 
>> IS THIS FOR BUDGET 
PROPOSALS, 1672, THIS IS FOR. 
>> THAT TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES AT 
THE CDC, THE COMMUNITY 
EDUCATION LOOK WE'VE HAD IN 
THE PAST. 
>> ISSUE ARE. HOMELESS 
INDIVIDUALS DEFECATING ON THE 
PROPERTY SO THERE'S BEEN 
SEVERAL 
TIMES WHERE IT'S I DON'T WHAT 
TO SAY THAT RECORD. WE HAD AN 
ISSUE WHERE OF PUBLIC WORKS 
HAS TO COME STAFF HAS TO COME 
IN AND ACTUALLY CLEAN THAT 
THAT IS AN WE'RE GOING TO PUT 
IN OR ASK SOMEBODY TO DO THAT 
TYPE OF CLEANUP. SO WHAT WE 
WANT TO DO ELIMINATE SOME OF 
THE COMPLAINTS OBVIOUSLY FROM 
19 TO THE CDC AND ALSO TO KEEP 
AN EYE ON THOSE AREAS BECAUSE 
THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE 
NOT VISIBLE. TO US AND WE HAD 
AN ISSUE WITH THAT SO THAT'S 
THOSE CAMERAS THERE. AND THEN 
THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL CAMERA 
THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT AT THE 
FAMILY SERVICE MOST OF THE 
FAMILY SERVICE CENTER. IT'S 
NOT ALL EXCEPT FOR FOR JUST 
THAT LITTLE AREA DOES NOT 
CAMERAS RECORDING AND THAT 
WOULD BE IN FRONT COMEDICALLY 
SCENE SWEET WE'D LIKE AN 
ADDITIONAL CAMERA THERE 
BECAUSE ONCE KINDS COME 
UPSTAIRS TO THE SECOND FLOOR 
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY GO. 
>> DO YOU THINK A LOT OF THOSE 
PROBLEMS WERE CAUSED BECAUSE 
OF THE DISEASE WHILE THAT IS 
NO LONGER THERE. 
>> SOME OF THEM. YES, YEAH, 
THEY THEY CAN'T STAY THERE 
BECAUSE PEOPLE I DON'T THINK 
THAT THAT WILL GO AWAY. THE 
AGENCIES THAT ARE HOUSE 
THERE'S SERVE THAT POPULATION 
SO. IN OUR POPULATION WILL 
ALWAYS BE THERE. 
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY 
QUESTIONS ON THESE. 
>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE 
CAMERA PICKS UP THE INDIVIDUAL 
WHAT HAPPENS WE HAVEN'T BEEN 
ABLE TO FIND THE INDIVIDUAL I 
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ENDS. 
>> ACCURATELY ANSWER THAT I 
JUST BUILDING THAT ONCE WE 
IDENTIFY WHO IT IS MAYBE WE 
CAN TOUCH BASE WITH THAT 
PERSON YOU KNOW WITH KNOW THAT 
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO 
THAT. WORK WITH OUR POLICE 
DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT BETTER 
DIDN'T IDENTIFY THOSE 
INDIVIDUALS SO THEY CAN BE 
MAYBE GIVEN WARNING MUCH, I'M 
NOT SURE WHERE WE GO BACK. BUT 
WE NEED TO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY 
WHO'S DOING IT BECAUSE IT IS 
IT I BELIEVE IT'S A HEALTH 
RISK AND OR FOR THEMSELVES AND 
ALSO FOR STAFF TO HAVE TO GO 
IN AND CLEAN UP THAT MAY 
>> MY CAMERA SAYS THAT 22,000 
PURCHASE. 
>> OF FIND THAT WAS TAKING. I 
4 AT THE CDC IN ONE AT AT THE 
FAMILY SERVICE AN. 5 
REPLACEMENT CAMERAS THAT WE 
HAVE TO REPLACE AS WELL. THANK 
YOU. 
>> LOOK THEM. 
>> COULD THIS BE HAD IT IS 
COULD THIS BE REMOVED FROM THE 
BUDGET AND ADDED TO THE 
PRIORITY LIST. I BELIEVE SO. 
>> THEY ARE I I DON'T THAT'S A 
SORRY NOT THE REPLACEMENT 
CAMERAS, BUT THE IN THE NEW 
FRIENDS. YES YOU CAMERAS IF WE 
IF IF THAT IS SOMETHING WILL 
CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AND WE'LL 
CONTINUE TO HAVE A COMPLAINT 
AND PEOPLE DEFECATING THEN 
THEN I CAN DEFINITELY COME 
BACK AND SAY OK WE ACTUALLY 
ACTUALLY ABSOLUTELY NEED THIS, 
ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE WE NEED 
IT BUT ON THE REPLACEMENT 
CAMERAS, NO THOSE ARE ACTUAL 
COMES THAT WE HAVE. 
>> I AGREE WITH THE 
REPLACEMENT TO BUT I ALSO 
AGREE WITH THE CAMERA. OR THE 
PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF A. 
PLEASE OFFICE YEAH. SO I THINK 
CAMERA POSITION FOR THAT IS 
VITALLY IMPORTANT SAFETY. SO I 
MEAN IT WOULD REDUCE DOWN 
KEEPING SOME ON THIS LIST AND 
PUTTING THE OTHER ON THE 
PRIORITY LIST IS THAT 
ACCEPTABLE. 
>> I BELIEVE 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> MAYOR I'M CONFUSED AND THE 
ARE WE TALKING 72. INFORMATION 
TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE. YES, 
MA'AM. OK IT DOESN'T A SOCIAL 
SERVICE IS ON THERE AND JUST 
AS SOCIAL SERVICES RIGHT UNDER 
DIVISION RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE 
TITLE OUT AT. LOOKING AT THE 
BACK OF A 17 MINUTE AS SAY IT. 
>> OH I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING 
AT THE BUDGET PROPOSAL ITEM. 
>> WHAT WOULD THAT BE REDUCED 
FOR ONLY ONE IN THE FAMILY. 
>> IF YOU YOU SAID 5 NEW 
CAMERAS, CORRECT. OKAY, SO IF 
YOU ELIMINATE OR THOSE CAMERAS 
WHAT WOULD. THAT COST ME. 
♪
♪
JUST ME. 
>> ON THE KEY WORDS CAN'T GIVE 
YOU THE COST AND CERTAINLY 
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE'RE 
ASKING HE'S CAMERA STING FOR 
SECURITY REASONS. WILL BE MORE 
THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS I JUST 
AGAIN IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS 
YOU DON'T WANT US PUT OUT 
PUBLIC SO. 
>> A LITTLE CONFUSED. NOW WITH 
STATEMENTS THAT YOU MADE. 
>> BECAUSE I'M AND THE 
UNDERSTANDING THEIR SPY BRAND 
NEW CAMERAS BEING ASKED FOR IN 
THIS 22,000. PLUS. REPLACING 
HOW MANY I. WE PLAY SO TOTAL 
OF 10. IT'S WHAT YOU'RE 
TALKING ABOUT IT'S ACTUALLY 
ABOUT. THERE ARE 20 BUCKS 
APIECE OR SO. 2200 PEAS. 
>> YOU'D BE CUTTING A $11,000 
AND THAT ALSO INSTALLATIONS SO 
THAT THAT MONEY IS NOT JUST 
FOR THE HARDWARE IT WOULD BE 
FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THOSE 
CAMERAS AS WELL. 
>> WAS IN STONE. 
>> OR ASSESS OUR ONE OF OUR 
SECURITY PROVIDERS. OR WHOEVER 
IS THE LOWEST BETTER I SHOULD 
SAY. BUT THAT'S WHO'S DOING 
THAT WORK FOR US. 
>> WELL IF YOU 6 OF THEM IN 
THERE. REPLACING THE 5 ADDING 
THE NEW 1, ONE NEW ONE. YOU 
WOULD BE PUTTING $8,800 OVER 
INTO THE PRIORITY LIST FOR 4 
AT THIS AND ON THE CAMERAS. IT 
WAS 
>> THE 
>> SO WE WILL KEEP AND SENT 
IN. YOU KNOW WE WANT LOSE ONLY 
ONE OF THOSE. 
>> SO IT LOOKS LIKE 4, 5, 
CAMERAS RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE 
4,212 FOR THE FOR THE CC AND 
SEE. SO MUCH. $4,212 AND IS BY 
CAMERAS OR ACC AND WANTED TO 
SEE. SO WE WOULD BASICALLY 
JUST BE KEEPING TO SEE YOU 
GUYS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT 
THE POLICING UNIT AND THEN THE 
4 OF THE 5 REPLACEMENT CAMERAS 
THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ARE THE 
2000 ITS 2199. 
>> SO WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE 
TOTAL OF 4 WOULD STAY ON THIS 
LINE ITEM AND THEN WHAT THE 
TOTAL WOULD BE GOING OVER TO 
THE PRIORITY LIST. 
>> AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING 
STAFF CAN DO FOR SECOND 
READING AND YOU YOU HEAR WHERE 
WE'RE GOING WE'LL GET A 
CONSENSUS OR A MOTION TO 
FINALIZE EVERYTHING MAYBE 
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST 
COME BACK WITH THE NUMBERS ON. 
>> HAVE MEMO OR SECOND 
READING. OKAY BECAUSE I KNOW 
IT'S HARD TO COME UP WITH 
THESE NUMBERS ON THE FLY A 
LITTLE FAIR TO YOU ALSO. 
>> OK, THANK YOU CLARIFICATION 
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR. 
>> AND THEN OR THE 5 CAMERAS 
AND. SOMETHING L AND THAT WILL 
BE FROM THE 20 IF 1000 THAT 
WAS PUT BACK INTO THE BUDGET 
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
>> WELL WE'RE KEEPING 6 OF 
WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING 
CORRECT. I A STUDENT AND THE 
ONE ADDITIONAL OR THE NEED AT 
LEAST UNIT. THE ONLY THING 
WE'RE REMOVING EACH OTHER OR 
HE WANTS. 
>> BASICALLY FOR ALL INTENTS 
AND PURPOSES, $11,000 IS GOING 
TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS BUDGET 
AND PLACED ON THE PRIORITY 
LIST AND $11,000. IT'S GOING 
TO BE KEPT HERE IN THIS BUDGET 
TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS NEED TO DO 
AS THE PRIOR IT RIGHT AWAY. 
>> WE I SPLIT IT IN HALF I'M 
I'M SAYING FOR INTENTS AND 
PURPOSES, WE DON'T KNOW 
EXACTLY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE 
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED 
OUT YET WHAT YOU'RE 16 OR YOU 
GOT TO HAVE A 60 40 RATIO IS 
NOT IF IF THINK HUMANS. 
>> WE'D HAVE TO GET YOU ON THE 
INFORMATION ON WHAT EXACTLY WE 
HAVE TO KEEP BECAUSE AT 
THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE 
TO KEEP IN ORDER TO KEEP THOSE 
CAMERAS RUNNING SO I THINK BE 
BEST FOR US TO DO IS GO BACK 
AND LIKE YOU SAID LOOK AT THE 
CAMERAS THAT WERE KEEPING WHAT 
WE'RE REMOVING AND WHAT MEANS 
TO RUN THE CAMERAS THAT WE'RE 
KEEPING. 
>> THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE 
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET 
MOTIONS AND CONSENSUS IS ON 
WHEN THE TIME CONGRESS AHEAD 
COMMISSIONER HERE THERE'S ONE 
MORE. 
>> FAMILY SERVICE ENTERS WEEK 
2 OPERATIONAL NEEDS THAT YOU 
HAD TALKED ABOUT. 
>> YEAH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER 
CARUSONE I KNOW WHAT THESE 
ITEMS ARE SO IF YOU HAVE A 
QUESTION YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT 
THOSE ITEMS I DID KNOW HIGH. 
>> I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE 
IMPLICATIONS OF THESE ARE NOT 
JUST I E I MEAN THE 4 WE HAVE 
A CONSENSUS BECAUSE THIS. I 
MEAN OBVIOUSLY ARCHAEOLOGISTS 
USE I NEVER THE 
AND THIS IS THE FINAL ONE 
THAT. I REALLY NEED TO HAVE A 
GRAPH OF. WE GO FOR CONSENT 
THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT 
MEAN WHAT OPERATIONAL NEEDS. 
>> OPERATIONAL NEEDS BUDGET 
PROPOSAL, 1671, THIS 
>> AND MEAN REGARDING THEIR 
BUDGET. 
>> I EXPLAINED AND TO YOU GUYS 
THAT SWEET TO WRITE WE HAD 
TAKEN OVER AND WE WERE GOING 
TO DO THE DROP IN OFFICES IN 
ORDER TO COMPLETE THE 
APPLICATIONS THAT WORK IN 
CONJUNCTION WITH. AREA AGENCY 
ON ARE THE 2 HAVE BEEN 
DROPPING OFFICES ARE THOSE 
SERVICES THAT ARE LACKING IN 
PORT. THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO 
FINISH THAT STORY IS 
COMPLETELY EMPTY. FOR THOSE OF 
YOU THAT KNOW ME WELL WORK 
WITH ME YOU KNOW THAT I'M 
RESOURCE ON ALL DO AS MUCH AS 
I CAN WITH WHAT I HAVE HOWEVER 
I DON'T HAVE THE MACHINES TO 
PUT IN THAT OFFICE. SO THAT 
WOULD THAT WOULD BE TO BE ABLE 
TO PRODUCE SWEET TOO. 
>> SO THIS IS A DEATH THE 
CHAIRS. THE SHELVING UNITS THE 
CONFERENCE AND AS WELL. ALSO 
IN THAT DROP-IN CENTER WE ARE. 
>> WE ARE WORKING TO PUT A 
SMALL FOOD PANTRY WE'RE GOING 
TO IN WITH OUR COMMUNITY 
POLICING UNIT. BUT WE THEM GET 
AN ACCESS POINT AND NEEDS 
NONPERISHABLE FOODS WE CAN 
HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE THEM AS 
WELL. THIS IS THE SHOW FOR 
THAT SMALL OFFICE. THANK THANK 
YOU. 
>> ALL RIGHT. SO LIKE I SAID I 
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. 
>> I KNOW COMMISSIONER 
HARRISON YOU HAD A FEW ITEMS 
YOU WANT TO GET MOTION 
CONSENSUS. I DO HAVE ONE MORE 
THAT YOU KIND OF TIED IN WITH. 
>> AND I WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON 
AND THAT WAS THE HEALTH 
INSURANCE RESERVES. I KNOW 
THAT WE COULD. STAFF WAS GOING 
TO CONTINUE LOOKING TO GET THE 
EXACT NUMBERS ARE NOT RELYING 
ON MY MEMORY IN MY NOTES, I 
JUST WONDER CITY MANAGER WAS 
STAFF ABLE TO COME BACK WITH 
THE HEALTH INSURANCE RESERVES, 
AND WE DON'T HAVE YET. 
>> UNTIL WE GET IT HAVE TO GO 
MEMORY HAHA. 
>> I KIND OF NEED THAT BEFORE. 
YOU KNOW THAT PLAYS A ROLE IN 
THE REST OF IT THOUGH. YEAH. 
>> SO MAYBE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO 
GET IT BY THE TIME WE'RE 
FINISHED AND WE CAN USE THAT 
AS THE LAST ITEM OF DISCUSSION 
SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU REMIND 
ME BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS OUT. 
COMMISSIONER CAREY SONG OF ICE 
MAYOR DO YOU WANT TO GET 
MOTIONS OR MOTIONS WILL WILL 
WILL DO CONSENSUS IS AND THEN 
WE'LL DO A FULL MOTION AT THE 
VERY END AND ANY OF YOUR 
ITEMS. 
>> NOW. 
>> OF FOR THAT. 
>> LET IT GO AHEAD, OK 
COMMISSION HARRISON GO HEAD 
FIRST. 
>> AND SEND JUST A SINGLE CODE 
ENFORCEMENT. 
>> OFFICER. WE'RE DOING IT 
NOW. AND IN THE MEANTIME I'M 
THINKING WE SHOULD HAVE 
GREATER CONVERSATION AS 
PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE JUST 
F I I BUT RIGHT NOW AT 56,000 
SPOT. 
>> IT'S SO COMMISSIONERS 
SOMEWHAT OF A CONSENSUS TO 
REDUCE THE FUNDING FOR ONE 
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN 
THE. 
>> THIS SCHOOL YEAR 2021 
BUDGET. COMMISSIONER HANKS. 
VICE MAYOR NOW. COMMISSIONER 
MUCH YES AND I AM IN NO. 
>> AND THAT PASSED 3 TO 2. 
>> NEXT ON IS. 
>> REMOVING THE ADMINISTRATIVE 
BACHELET. 
>> AND 
>> PLACE AND YET WITH THAT 
WON. 
>> IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S A 
$20,000 IN AND CHILE. 
>> BEFORE WE GET THAT 
CONSENSUS. I REALLY LIKE TO. 
CHECK WITH CITY CLERK AND CITY 
MANAGER. BECAUSE A STAFF 
ASSISTANT ONE. IS A TOTALLY 
DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTION AND 
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 
SPECIALIST. 
>> WELL I CAN DO IT IN 2 
SEPARATE FENCES AS THOUGH. 
REMOVING ADMINISTRATIVE 
SERVICE SPECIALIST BEFORE YOU 
DO THOUGH IF THIS IS THE 
ULTIMATE COMMISSIONER CARUSONE 
NEED TO SEE IF THAT WILL. 
>> HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE 
MAKEUP OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE. I DON'T 
WANT TO BE CUTTING A POSITION 
WITHOUT. HEARING FROM HER AS 
THE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT JOB 
DESCRIPTIONS. 
>> AND I PLAY MY THEORY BEHIND 
IT IS THAT WHERE WHERE I GET 
THE WHOLE UNDERSTAFFED AND 
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE 
DONE. BUT WE'RE ALSO WE ALSO 
DON'T HAVE THAT DEPUTY CITY 
CLERK. NO ONE THAT DEPUTY CITY 
CLERK IS IN PLACE. THEN AFTER 
GOING TO REMOVE A LOT OF THESE 
THINGS WOULD POSSIBLY BE ON 
EAST GAP. AND MINISTRY THERE 
AND JUST IT'S A IT'S NOT 
NEEDED. 
>> YOU MADE A GOOD ARGUMENT 
THERE, BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO 
HEAR FROM THE CITY THAT WE 
DON'T KNOW WHEN WE DON'T EVEN 
KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE 
DEPUTY CITY CLERK UNTIL AT 
LEAST THE MIDDLE OF POSSIBLY 
THE BEGINNING AT LEAST THEY 
HAD THE 1ST QUARTER WE DON'T 
KNOW. SO CITY CLERK. 
>> PRIOR TO THIS PREVIOUS YEAR 
ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE 
SPECIALIST DUTIES WERE HANDLED 
BY ONE STAFF MEMBER. ONE STAFF 
MEMBER CAN DO THE GROUP. THE 
DUTIES. STAFF ASSISTANT ONE IS 
A LOWER LEVEL. DO NOT WANT TO 
GET RID OF BOTH POSITIONS. 
♪
NEITHER ONE OF THE DO ANY 
DEPUTY CITY CLERK DUTIES 
EXCEPT FOR SOME TIME TO 
ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS OF 
ACCIDENT. WHAT WAS THE OTHER 
QUESTION I. CAN IT BE DONE 
WITH ONE MINISTRY OF SERVICE 
SPECIALS. YES HAS BEEN UP 
UNTIL THIS PAST YEAR. WE SPLIT 
THE WORK INTO THE COMMISSION 
AND. CITY CLERK, SO IT'S JUST 
BEEN SEPARATED SO EACH OF THEM 
ARE DOING ONCE AND FOR ALL 
COMMISSION AND THE OTHER WAS 
ON ALL CITY PARKS. I JUST NEED 
ONE OF THE SESSION'S END OF 
THE DAY AND YOU HAVE AT LEAST 
ONE OF THEM. 
>> I ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO 
WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE. 
>> THAT WAS KIND OF THE WHOLE 
POINT I MEAN AGAIN IT WAS WE 
WERE LOOKING FOR I WAS LOOKING 
FOR IN YOUR EXECUTIVE 
SECRETARY OF THE COMMISSION 
AND THIS WAS THERE ANSWER TO 
IT. AND YOU KNOW PROCESS 
>> I MY WAY IN WE'RE REMOVING 
ONE POSITION IN THAT APARTMENT 
ALREADY AND. THAT'S ALL I WANT 
TO DO. 
>> I GUESS THE CONSENSUS IS 
YOU WANT TO REMOVE A STAFF 
ASSISTANT ONE OR THE ADMIN 
ESPECIAL US ADMINS SERVICE 
SPECIALS. RIGHT NOW THE ADMIN 
I'M SORRY THAT RIGHT NOW THE 
STAFF ASSISTANT ONE IS WHAT IS 
REMOVED. CARROLL WHITE HOUSE 
IS WANTING TO INSTEAD OF 
REMOVING STAFF ASSISTANT ONE 
SHE WANTS TO REMOVE AN ADMIN 
SERVICE, ESPECIALLY IF SHE 
WANTS TO MOVE THE BOAT THAT'S 
WHAT I'M HEARING KNOW THAT 
AND. 
>> I THINK SHE JUST WANTS THE 
LOWER-PAYING POSITION TO STAY. 
>> MISSION OR SO NOW YOU WANT 
ME TO REMOVE BOTH POSITIONS 
ARE JUST WANT. 
>> THIS ONE JUST REMOVE ARE 
AND MINUTES STRAIGHT OF 
SERVICE IS 
>> AND THEN ADD IN THE FACT 
THAT THIS ONE. AND IT'S A 
$20,000 DIFFERENCE. 
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET THE 
CONSENSUS, SEEING NO OTHER 
COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
COMMISSIONER MUCH YES. VICE 
MAYOR. COMMISSIONER HANKS 
THIS. 
>> ALSO ON THE CITY PARK AND 
DO IT AND I'M A YES SO RIGHT 
NOW IT'S A 41 THAT PASSED. 
ALRIGHT SO GO AHEAD 
COMMISSIONER, SOME. MISSION OR 
SO. 
>> I NEED SOME TALKING WHILE 
IT'S ON YOU. 
>> AND LET YOU HEAR THE 
ARITHMETIC HE HAS MANY $4,000 
ROOM IS THAT. 
>> TEMPORARILY OF COURSE. 
>> I'M DEFINITELY A AS LONG AS 
WE DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT ONCE 
THE AGREEMENT IT SIGNED I 
DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE 
THAT CABBIE OUT TO ADD. 
COMMISSIONER TERRORISM. 
>> WE COULD PROBABLY ADD THAT 
IN THE MOTION. 
>> SO THIS IS JUST CENSUS. 
>> COMMISSIONER HARRISON EISEN 
YEAR YEAH. 
>> I MEAN 
>> I AND GUESS BY SOME AIR. 
>> I'M A NO ON TO ME TAKING IT 
OUT FOR THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF 
TIME AND PUT IT BACK IN WITH A 
AMENDMENT AS IT MAKES SENSE TO 
ME. 
>> COMMISSIONER HANKS. WAS 
THAT A YES, YES, YOUR 
FAVORITE, THANK YOU. 
COMMISSIONER MUCH YES. 
♪
♪
COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR AND I 
HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT 
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 2 
YEARS AND IT'S TIME TO LIGHT 
THE FIRE AND THEN SEE IF THIS 
IS A PRIORITY FOR THEM. 
>> THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THE 
FIRE ISN'T WITH THIS WITH THE 
COUNTY ITSELF. AND THE BALL 
GOT DROP THERE. THE BENDER WHO 
IS THE EDC IT'S JUST A VENDOR 
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO IT 
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE 
COUNTY TO REACT TO IT ALSO I 
REPORTED ON THIS A COUPLE 
MEETINGS AGO AND SNOWFALL OF 
THE EDC IS THAT THE COUNTY HAS 
IT BEEN PUSHING THIS THROUGH 
THE ALL THE OTHER 
MUNICIPALITIES. 
>> ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER 
COMMISSIONER SOME BEFORE A 
MOVEMENT TO VICE MAYOR. 
>> SO NOW 
>> ARE AND WE NEED YOU TO STAY 
WHAT THE QUESTION IS REGARDING 
THE HEALTH INSURANCE EXACTLY 
>> I'M MUCH THE THAT HEALTH 
INSURANCE AND I'LL SEE IF I 
CAN CAPTURE COMMISSIONER CARE 
SO THEY WANT TO GET RESTATE 
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR 
REGARDING THE HEALTH INSURANCE 
AND I THINK YOU ARE WANTING TO 
KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE IS GOING 
INTO NOW. 
>> I WANT TO KNOW THE EXACT 
DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING IN TO 
GET HEALTH INSURANCE ON. IT UP 
TO THAT AN IMAGE THAT WE ARE 
TRYING TO REACH WE PUT MONEY 
INTO IT EVERY YEAR. AND SO 
THIS YEAR WHAT IS THAT SOME 
AIR. 
>> THAT HELPED CLARIFY TO IT 
SO THAT 
>> IF YOU LOOK ON A YOU LOOK 
AT NEEDS ONE 91. 
♪
♪
IT LOOKS LIKE. 
>> AS REVENUES OH MAN I'M 
TRYING TO FIND. 
>> ACTUAL AND THIS YEAR IS NOT 
IT. THERE IS NO BEACH. IT 
WOULD BE ONE 92 MEDIA 
>> AND IT LOOKS AS IF THERE IS 
A AND 
>> ACTUALLY WON 93 IS ABOUT 
THE MEDICAL INSURANCE 
COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
>> RIGHT BUT I'M LOOKING OR 
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK ON ONE 92 
THAT THE HEALTH INSURANCE OR 
NAFTA. WHAT WE KEEP PUTTING 
MONEY INTO THAT WE CAN BUILD 
UP THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT 
IT'S ALL HE'S GOING TO TELL 
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN 
AMOUNT IS THAT EXACTLY YOUR 
>> WE'VE PUT X AMOUNT OF 
DOLLARS IN IT LAST YEAR. YOU 
KNOW HOW MUCH IT WE WERE IN IT 
THIS YEAR. 
>> IT LOOK LIKE OFF THE 
BELIEVE 5 MILLION OR I DON'T 
KNOW. 
>> JUST FOR CLARITY 
COMMISSIONER, SO ONE 92 IS THE 
SELF-INSURANCE FUND FOR. 
>> OR LIKE HORTON WADDLE 
GENERAL LIABILITY IF YOU'RE 
LOOKING FOR THE MEDICAL 
INSURANCE SELF-INSURED FUND 
THAT'S ON PAGE ONE 93. YEAH HR 
HERE ARE JUST ARRIVED 
>> FOR THE RECORD CHRISTINE 
MCDADE HIM RESOURCE-RICH I 
THINK WE HAVE SOME RACES FOR 
IT'S GRAND SO I SEE RISK AND 
BENEFITS MANAGER. THIS FISCAL 
YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING INTO 
WITH THEM THERE SHOULD BE A 
167,000 THAT WILL GET PUT INTO 
THE POOL VARIABLES WOULD BE. 
THAT COULD CHANGE IS IF WE 
HAVE A SINGLE PERSON WHO GETS 
MARRIED OR SOMEBODY HAS A 
FAMILY IN CAGES TO. HIGHER 
PLAN OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD 
BE THE ONLY VARIABLE THAT IS 
ABOUT A 167,000. 
>> WE WILL SEE WHAT COMES INTO 
THE OIL. 
>> YES, CORRECT. 
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE POOR ARE 
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RESERVE 
ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE 
ESTABLISHING TO BE WITHIN 
COMPLIANCE TO HAVE. 
>> THE AMOUNT OF RESERVES OUT 
NECESSARY TO BE SELF INSURED 
SO POOL IS BASICALLY DOES THE 
RESERVE CORRECT. 
>> THAT WAS TRYING TO BE 
ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN 3 YEARS, 
CORRECT, YES FOR ATTEMPTING 
NOT. 
>> WHERE IS THAT NO TAINTED IN 
THE 8 EVE URGENT BECAUSE I 
DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE. 
>> I MEAN 
>> 100 29TH OUT JUST DON'T THE 
THIS OR ALL YOU KNOW THE 
RESERVES. REFLECTED IN HERE. 
AND MAYBE WHERE THE CONFUSION 
MY. HE HAD A LENGTHY 
CONVERSATION ON LAST YEAR'S 
THOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT I 
DON'T REMEMBER EVEN HAPPENED 
THAT THE MISSION THIS YEAR. 
>> THEY'RE LOOKING I THINK 
ALSO THEN WHAT IS THE BALANCE 
THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS BEFORE 
THIS MORNING SUN AND THEN. 
>> AND BALANCE AS OF SEPTEMBER 
30 IN 2019 BECAUSE THAT WAS 
THE INFORMATION I CAN ALL WE 
HAD 812,000 SO THERE'S THE 
MONEY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR 
THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ADD TO 
THAT WHICH SHOULD GET US UP TO 
OUR GUESSES ABOUT 1.1 MILLION 
ONE 0.1 YEAH ABOUT 1.1 MILLION 
THAT'S WITHOUT TALKING. 
ANYBODY CAN FROM WHERE WE'RE 
AT. 
>> OKAY, I DON'T SEE WHERE ANY 
OF THAT REFLECTED IN HERE SO. 
>> THERE IS AN IDEA AND THEIR 
THEIR COMMON COMMISSIONERS OF 
THE WAY ACTED IN. 
>> IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE 
CHARGES CLAIMS MEDICAL LINE. 
THAT'S WHERE ALL 
7 MILLION 847 THOUSAND TO 16. 
SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT 
AMOUNT WILL BE REMAINING AT 
THE END OF THE YEAR WILL GO 
INTO AN BALANCE BUT JUST IN 
CASE WE HAD SOMETHING WHERE WE 
HAD TO UTILIZE NOT IN THE 
CURRENT YEAR IT IS IN THAT 
LINE. THAT'S THE FUTURE LINE. 
SOME POINT OR ONE 94. UNDER 
THE 5.40 SOME INSURERS MEDICAL 
FUN. JUST BE THE BOTTOM LINE 
BEFORE THE DARKER LINES WITH 
THE TOTALS. 7 MILLION A 47 TO 
60. 
>> SO IS. 
>> YEARS AND THEN MILLION 
SHOULD GO IN. AND REALLY THE 
ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 
7 MILLION. 8 ORTIZ 7 AND WHAT 
WE'VE PUT IN LAST YEAR AT 
7 MILLION. DINE IS A $167,000 
DEBT THAT WE EXPAND. 
>> WE ALSO REACHED A POINT YOU 
KNOW WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT. 
THE 157,000 IS A PORTION OF 
THE 7 MILLION 8.47. 
>> OK, IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT 
BROKEN DOWN NOT BIRKENAU 
CORRECT. I'M I'M GOING TO ASK 
A FOLLOW-UP HOUSE BUILT IN. 
>> IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE 
BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR'S OF 
CLAIMS IT WAS 7.4 MILLION NOT 
JUST PART OF THAT YEAR TO DATE 
IS JUST UNDER. OR MILLION 
DOLLARS AND I KNOW THIS 
NUMBERS. I DON'T SPENDING 
3 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT 
COUPLE YEARS COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
AND I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE 
BILLS OUTSTANDING THAT STILL 
HAVE TO GET PAID. BUT NOT 
ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 3 MILLION 
DOLLARS IN OUTSTANDING BILLS 
FOR 2 MONTHS. SO THIS WILL GO 
BACK INTO INTO THE RE INTO THE 
OPEN COURT HEALTH INSURANCE 
RESERVE FUND ANYWAY IF THERE'S 
A YES, THIS IS PER THE JULY I 
UNDER SOME SO PROBABLY DIDN'T 
HAVE ANYTHING FROM JULY THE 
JULY AUGUST AND I GET THAT BUT 
I CAN'T SEE JULY'S IN EXPENSES 
EQUALING 3 MILLION DOLLARS 
WENT FOR 10 MONTHS OF PEOPLE 
TURNING 0.9 MILLION. 
>> HELP ME. ANDERSON YES, I 
DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY MONEY. 
>> WELL YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A 
MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH. WE 
DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY MONEY. 
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNICAL 
FOLKS HERE FOR THE BOAT. 
REQUEST 
>> SAYS SO THIS 
>> AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED 
THIS WILL BE IN TOP ORDER OF 
BUSINESS WHEN WE COME BACK FOR 
SECOND READING. 
>> IT WAS A ROPE OR THE GARY 
BIRD THAT TOLD US THAT AMOUNT 
TO YOU SO WE JUST HAVE THE OF 
COURSE, I'M I'M I'M NOT 
FAULTING THE BECAUSE YOU USE 
PROJECTIONS AND THEN YOU GET 
REAL DATA THAT SAYS HOW MUCH 
HAS BEEN EXPENDED YEAR TO DATE 
WHICH IS REAL DATA. SO THEN 
THAT JUST SHOWS THAT YOUR 
PROJECTIONS WERE OFF TO THE 
POSITIVE SIDE YEA. SO WE DON'T 
HAVE I'M SEEM WE DON'T HAVE TO 
PUT ANYTHING IN THIS YEAR 
BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY MEETING 
AND EXCEEDING THAT AMOUNT. 
>> WITHOUT WITHOUT NOT TOO 
MUCH IS OR I DON'T KNOW HOW IT 
IS ALSO HUGE. 
>> IT'S WE CAN GET THE 
INFORMATION JURY THE GREEN 
BERETS. 
>> THIS IS 3 MILLION GO RIGHT 
IN A 
>> THAT RIGHT LAST FALL. GO 
INTO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. 
>> NO IT SAVES IN THIS RESERVE 
IN THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND IT. 
>> OK AND WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
NUMBER. I THOUGHT THAT I MEAN 
I'M JUST GOING OFF MY VARIOUS, 
MY BACK SURGERY RECENTLY IT 
MIGHT BE LIKE IT'S 3 MONTHS 
BEHIND. 
>> YES, YES. ABSOLUTELY YOU 
CAN 
>> BECAUSE LIKE IT TOOK THEM A 
WHILE THE FOR YOU. 
>> THEN THE QUESTION IS WHERE 
WE TRULY AT THE DAY BECAUSE IF 
WE'RE LOOKING AT JUNE THEN 
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING THERE. 
>> AND APRIL. 
>> MEAN IT WILL NEED JUNE AND 
OCTOBER NOVEMBER. YOU'RE 
LOOKING AT ONLY A 6 MONTH 
NUMBER. YOU KNOW. 
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT HAVE 
STAFF SEE IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL 
UPDATED YEAR TO DATE FOR THAT 
ONE COLUMN OF. I DON'T KNOW IF 
ONE OF THE MOST SUFFICE SO WE 
JUST HAVE THIS CONVERSATION 
CALM SECOND READING WHEN YOU 
GUYS HAVE MORE AND THE MEMO 
AND THIS WAY WE CAN REALLY 
LOOK AT THIS. 
>> BECAUSE. BIGGER 
CONVERSATION THIS IS THE 
MAYOR. 
>> I WOULD AND I WAS WITH YOU 
REGULARLY TAKE IT TAKE OUT THE 
ONE 67, BUT THEN I THOUGHT 
ABOUT AND I'M LIKE WAIT A 
MINUTE I DON'T THINK MY. 
THAT'S WHEN CRUZ O I AND NOT 
SURE THAT SO YEAH, I LIKE NO 
MORE INFORMATION LIKE WE HAD 
IN BACK. 
>> IF THERE'S NO OTHER 
DISCUSSION, LET'S GET A 
CONSENSUS JEFF STUDY BAD I 
REALLY I'M SORRY VICE MAYOR BY 
ALL MUCH WAS TOTALLY SPENT 
LAST YEAR. 
>> DOES ANYBODY KNOW JUST WANT 
SHARE. INSURANCE ESPECIALLY 
SELF-INSURED IS SOMETHING I DO 
NOT WANT FALL SHORT ON. THIS 
IS EMPLOYEES. HEALTH AND 
WELLBEING AND EVERYTHING AND I 
WOULD HATE AND THE CITY ALL 
SHORT. 
>> AND I THINK THAT LISA'S 
POINT WAS A VERY GOOD ONE IN. 
WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE SIDE 
OF THE EQUATION, THE EXPENSE 
SIDE. WE ALSO WOULD NEED TO 
LOOK AT THE REVENUE SIDE, SO 
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE FALLING 
SHORT ON THE REVENUE SIDE ALSO 
WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT GOING 
TO BE THAT REMAINING AT THE 
END. SO IF WE LOOK TO THE PAGE 
BEFORE. IT THAT THE AMENDED 
BUDGET WAS ABOUT NOT. 
>> I'M SORRY I LOOK AT ROUTE 
ONE AND 9 MILLION DOLLARS. 
WE'RE NOT NEAR THAT AMOUNT IN 
REVENUE EITHER. 
>> WE JUST GOT A MEMO ON THIS 
AND HAS A BIGGER DISCUSSION 
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HASH IT 
OUT NOW, BUT WE STILL HAVE A 
LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO WELL 
WE WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE 
STUFF OUT RIGHT NOW I BUDGETED 
IF AND PERSONALLY MYSELF I AM. 
>> ALL FOR LEAVING IT THE WAY 
THAT IT IS. THAT GIVES ANOTHER 
YEAR UNDER BILL IT ALLOWS US 
TO GET TO THAT GOAL IN THAT 
FUND THAT WE NEED BEFORE WE 
START. LOOKING AT THAT, I MEAN 
I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK HERE 
IN A SECOND READING AND. 
CHANGE A LOT YOU KNOW, 10'S OF 
THOUSANDS ARE $100,000 LAST 
MINUTE THAT SECOND BUDGET HER 
SECOND HEARING. SO I AM FOR 
LEAVING IT AS IS AND IF THESE 
DISCUSSIONS WANT TO BE ELMORE 
AND LANG NEXT YEAR WHEN WE 
TALK ABOUT THESE TYPES OF 
THINGS DO IT AT THAT POINT NOT 
ITS SECOND READING. 
>> TAKEN SO LET'S GET A 
CONSENSUS. I CAN'T MAKE A 
DECISION EITHER WAY BECAUSE I 
DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AND 
FOR THE ME AND THE BABY MEAN, 
WHAT I'VE SEEN IS CONFLICTING 
WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE 
HEARD BEFORE SO I WOULD MUCH 
RATHER HAVE A BROADER 
DISCUSSION FROM SECOND READING 
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE 
GOING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION 
AND SECOND READING AND YOU 
KNOW. 
♪
WE MAY NOT HAVE TO REALLY 
THERE. WE MAY HAVE TO PUT 
MONEY IN THERE. WE DON'T KNOW 
SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF 
A MEMO. VICE MAYOR EXPRESSED 
THAT SHE JUST WANTS TO GO WITH 
THE STATUS QUO AS PRESENTED. 
♪
>> COMMISSIONER HANKS. 
>> IS ON 
>> AS CLOSE PRESENTED 
COMMISSIONER IMAGE. YEAH KEEP 
IT AS IS. AND COMMISSIONER 
HARRISON. 
>> ALL RIGHT, YEAH, DEFINITELY 
KEEP IT AS IS. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO I PERSONALLY 
WOULD LIKE TO STILL SEE A MEME 
ALL AS TO WHAT IT IS GOING TO 
LOOK LIKE BECAUSE I THINK THAT 
THIS CONVERSATION IS SHOWING 
THAT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. AND 
I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST 
INTEREST TO KNOW. OKAY, SO IF 
I CAN GET A CONSENSUS TO HAVE 
A MEMO. 
>> COMMISSIONER MUCH YEAH I 
GOT NO ISSUES WITH GETTING A 
MEMO IN GETTING THAT 
INFORMATION BUT I THINK IS 
JUST A LITTLE TOO WISHY-WASHY 
ON BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM 
TO COME IN TO MAKE A DECISION 
ON THAT RIGHT NOW AND I AGREE 
WITH THE VICE MAYOR LUKE THAT 
I DON'T WANT TO BE MESSING 
WITH OUR EMPLOYEES HEALTH 
INSURANCE OR ARE BONDING ARE 
THEREFORE OF IT IF WE'RE GOING 
TO MAKE CUTS WE MAKE IT IN 
OTHER AREAS NOT NOT NOT ON 
HEALTH BENEFITS SO WE DO A 
CERTAIN DEGREE MORE NOT GOING 
INTO THE RESERVES ON WHERE WE 
WANNA BE WHERE WE WANT TO BE A 
LOT OF CERTAIN PERCENTILE AND 
IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE'RE 
DOING THE CAP EX ACCOUNT YOU 
GOT TO PUT MONEY AND NOW WE'RE 
GOING TO PAY LATER SO IT IS 
JUST THE SAME THING AND THAT'S 
THAT'S HOW IT ALL THAT'S 
THAT'S WHY WANT TO JUST TRYING 
TO GET INFORMATION MEMO 
REGARDING THE HEALTH INSURANCE 
YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE A 
CONSENSUS TO KEEP IT AS IS FOR 
HEALTH INSURANCE. 
>> IT'S NOT GOING TO OKAY, BUT 
I'M JUST LOOKING TO GET THE 
MEMO. SHOWING THESE NUMBERS 
MORE ACCURATELY AND IF IT 
TAKES MORE THAN 2 WEEKS IT 
TAKES MORE THAN 2 WEEKS IS NOT 
GOING TO CHANGE SECOND READING 
IN. 
>> I THAT WE HAD ON. 
>> SANDY CAME IN MY OFFICE ONE 
ON ONE WHEN WE THE INSURANCE 
AND. I DO REMEMBER THE TOPIC 
OF SOME REALLY HUGE BILLS CAME 
IN THIS YEAR. SOME ACCIDENTS 
THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS REALLY 
SO IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT 
THIS YEAR THAN IT WAS THE 
PREVIOUS YEAR. SO HEARING WHAT 
THE. FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS 
STATED THAT'S HIM. THEY HIT ME 
WRONG, I MEAN IT'S PRETTY MUCH 
RIGHT AS TO WHAT SANDY WAS 
DISCLOSING ME SO DIDN'T WANT 
TO DRAW EXACTLY TAKES 1 ONE 
REALLY BAD ACCIDENT TO RACK UP 
A MILLION OR 2 IN. 
>> EXPENSES. 
>> SO I'M GOOD WITH GETTING 
THE MEMO. I DON'T THINK IT HAS 
TO BE. 
>> PRESENTED TO US BEFORE 
SECOND HEARING, BUT IT IS SO 
AS YOU CAN GET AROUND WHICH 
MISTER HANKS. COMMISSIONERS. 
>> MEMO YEAH. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO LET'S GET BACK 
TO PEARSON DID YOU HAVE 
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE SO WE CAN 
MOVE ON TO BY SAYING IS 3 OR 
MORE. 
>> ALL VICE KNOW MET HER. 
>> YEAH I I REMOVE 53,544 THE 
SUSPECT OR SERVICES. 
>> THANKS TO 3,000 WHAT. 
>> BELIEVE IT 63,540 THAT MADE 
FOR THE PACK THE COURT OR THIS 
IS AND THAT 
>> HE 80 
>> YOU ARE CORRECT. 
>> AT A CONCERT I NEED TO GET 
A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE TECH 
SUPPORT SERVICES FROM THE 
MISSION OR CARE 
>> I INITIALLY BECAUSE I KNEW 
THAT YEAR. WHEN 
>> YES I ALSO BE. YES 
COMMISSIONER MUCH, YES. 
>> THAT PAST, THERE'S YOUR 
CONSENSUS ON REMOVING THAT. 
>> OK GOING BACK TO YOU NOW OR 
IN SORRY GUYS. FORENSIC 
EXAMINER ADD BACK IN THERE AND 
28 OUNCE MEAN 130 AS A MAN IN. 
>> AT 
>> THE LEAST IN ADDITION. 
>> QUICK COMMISSIONER SON. 
>> CARREFOUR INDYK IS EXAMINER 
ON THE $8,830 WHAT IT IS 
REPRESENTED ON SCENE. 
>> THANK YOU. AND I JUST SPEAK 
TO THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF 
ADDING IT BACK IN ONLY BECAUSE 
IT'S ON THE PRIORITY LIST AND 
IT'S NUMBER 4. SO WHEN IT 
BECOMES AVAILABLE IF IT 
BECOMES AVAILABLE THEN WE CAN 
JUST ADD IT BACK IN WITH THE 
BUDGET AMENDMENT. SO THAT'S 
WHY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. 
>> BUT COMMISSIONER TARIFFS ON 
YOUR CONSENSUS. COMMISSIONER 
MUCH YES. YES COMMISSIONER 
HANKS. 
>> AND THAT WAS FOR A 1633 
THAT COMPUTER FORENSIC 
EXAMINER. 
>> CORRECT SAYS THE PHONES AND 
THE COMPUTERS, YEAH. 
>> OK THANK YOU. AHEAD. 
>> OKAY NEXT ONE IS THE CRIME 
AND NOT AT WHERE THEY ONLY 
HAVE ONE OF THEM. 
>> VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. 
>> $43,490 IS THAT CORRECT. 
THAT ONE. 
>> NEED A CONSENSUS FOR THE 
CRIME AND NOW FOR 43 FOR 80. 
WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 
POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS THIS I 
GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL ONE 
IT'S ON THE PRIORITY LIST IN 
THIS ONE IS NUMBER 4 ON THE 
PRIORITY LIST. SO WE CAN 
ALWAYS DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT 
AFTER THE FACT AFTER WE KNOW 
EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING AND 
HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING INTO 
FUND BALANCE BECAUSE WE ARE 
LOSING A LOT OF REVENUES EVERY 
SINGLE MONTH. THE LONGER THIS 
COVID KEEPS GOING ON AND. I 
FEARFUL THAT THOSE PROJECTIONS 
AT THE STATE BROUGHT DOWN IN 
AUGUST. THEY'RE GOING TO BE 
EVEN LOWER. SO I ONE OF AIR ON 
THE SIDE OF BEING 
CONSERVATIVE. 
>> SO VICE MAYOR YOUR VOTE. I 
S. 
>> SURE MUCH. YES COMMISSIONER 
HANKS US. I HAVE COMMISSIONERS 
AND YOU HAVE ANY MORE. 
>> AND MORE THIS AND ONE NEWS. 
I ALREADY GOT ONE IN MY YEAH, 
OK. I BELIEVE THAT IT. 
>> WELL SINCE WE'RE TALKING 
ABOUT STAFF ASSISTANT AND 
THEY'LL GET THE CONSENSUS TO 
REMOVE THE STAFF ASSISTANT 2 
OUT OF H R. THAT WILL SAVE US 
APPROXIMATELY I DON'T KNOW 65 
$70,000. 
>> ON THE TABLE THE OPTION TO 
ARE LOW. 
>> THAT POSITION UNTIL FIRST 
FLOORS OPEN BACK UP. 
>> IF WE FURLOUGH IT THEN WE 
STILL FINDING IT AND. 
>> YOU CAN FIND IT AT A LOWER 
AMOUNT BECAUSE ITS FURLOUGHED. 
>> ACTUALLY I THINK WE'LL HAVE 
THE ABILITY TO DO THIS FOR ALL 
THAT'S THE THE CITY MANAGER. 
>> SCIENTISTS SAY 
>> AND ALSO IT'S GOOD THAT 
EVERYBODY IS JUST SOMETHING 
THAT'S YOU KNOW IT'S PRETTY. 
>> THANK YOU FOR I THOUGHT IT 
WAS RELATED TO THE FUNDING OF 
THE BUDGET SO THANK YOU FOR 
THAT APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING US 
SAFE. 
>> SO MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO GET 
A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE 
STAFF ASSISTANT 2 POSITION. 
>> SAVING APPROXIMATELY 6 
71,871 1000. SO IN $71,800. 
COMMISSIONER HANKS. VICE 
MAYOR. RIDGE. 
>> NO. WE SHOULD CARE SOME. 
NOW NOW. 
>> AND I OBVIOUSLY I GUESS AND 
JUST GOT OUTVOTED SO I. SEEMS 
LIKE AWFUL YOUNG FOR SOMEBODY 
TO SIT AND SAY HI TO PEOPLE 
THAT ARE NOT EVEN COMING INTO 
CITY HALL. 
>> AND I JUST I AND THERE, BUT 
I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS 
REALLY NOT ABOUT THAT POSITION 
IT'S ABOUT THE LONGEVITY THE 
EMPLOYEES THAT IF THERE AND 
LET ME EXPLAIN THAT THERE IS 
AN AWFUL LOT AS BACK EMPLOYEE 
AND THEIR FAMILY YOU OR THIS 
CITY THAT IF YOU GO OUT AND 
YOU HAVE TO GO AND GET IN THE 
HALL DECORATED, IF YOU HAPPY 
YOU ALL THOSE THINGS AN 
OFFBEAT OR I GOT NEWS FOR BE 
WAY BEYOND THAT EVERYONE. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO ANYTHING EYES. 
COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK YOU 
SAID YOU WERE FINISHED, 
CORRECT. 
>> I DON'T KNOW I HAD A BUNCH 
OF ADS GO ON BUT. 
>> YEAH, OKAY, VICE MAYOR DID 
YOU HAVE ANY WANT TO GET 
CONSENSUS ON. 
>> YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE A 
CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE 
HOUSING AND LIFE SKILL. 
>> PHYSICIANS IN. 
>> SOCIAL SERVICE. 
>> VICE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO 
GET A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE 
HOUSING AND LIFE POSITION. 
THAT WOULD SAVE APPROXIMATELY 
50,400 TIMES JUST GET READY. 
VICE MAYOR YES. COMMISSIONER 
HANKS. COMMISSIONER 
COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL NOW. I 
ALSO I'M A YES. 
>> AND YOU'RE ALL THE ON THE 
CONSENSUS WAS THAT HE AFTER 
>> AND TO DO THAT THOUGH DID I 
YES, WE'RE MYSELF VICE MAYOR 
AND THE 3 WERE COMMISSIONER 
HANKS ENRICHING YOURSELF. 
>> I NEED TO KNOW WHO LIKE TO 
WHETHER PAST NOT CONNECTED TO 
CONSENSUS FAILED. 
>> LIKE TO REMOVE REAL 1653 A 
15,000. REAL ESTATE 
ACQUISITION CONSULTANT, YES. 
WE'LL STAY THAT SO YOU WANT TO 
REMOVE THE CONSULTANT FOR THE 
REAL ESTATE. THAT'S 15,000. 
>> I WOULD LIKE, COULD I STAFF 
IF HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH. 
>> THE EMINENT DOMAIN AND 
STUFF THAT WE NEED A PRICE. ON 
THE SHOW. 
>> COMMISSIONERS ARE IN CLOSE 
TO MANAGER I CAN TELL YOU AT 
LEAST WITH THE $13,000 IS 
FUNDED FOR. SO ARE CONSULTANT 
AS YOU KNOW SHE WORKS TO 
ACQUIRE PROPERTY LONG MY 
HATCHEE CREEK THAT HAS ITS OWN 
FUN, THIS IS FOR THE DIRECTION 
THAT THE COMMISSION GAVE IN 
DECEMBER 5TH 2019. 
>> FOR US TO START LOOKING AT 
SELLING SEEK JACE I'M SORRY 
SELLING SURPLUS, LOTS, THE 
CITY OWNS TO ADJACENT PROPERTY 
OWNERS. THIS WOULD BE FOR IF 
SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN 
BUYING OUR COMMERCIAL 
PROPERTY. THIS IS THE USE OF 
ART. I MEAN I WAS IHSAN 
CONSULTANT ACTUALLY. GO AHEAD 
AND DO THIS REAL ESTATE 
SERVICES SO. 
>> IT'S NOT KNOWING THAT I'M 
I'M DEFINITELY WANTED TO GET 
RID OF IT. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 
THAT ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US 
AND HOW TO GO ABOUT HIM SO 
PROPERTY SO TO PUT SOMEBODY ON 
YOU KNOW WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN 
SELL ANYTHING. WE CAN MAKE A 
BUDGET ADJUSTMENT LATER, YOU 
KNOW IF WE FINALLY GET TO A 
PLACE WHERE REACTION ORDINANCE 
AND CAN SELL THE STUFF SO IT'S 
THE SAME THING FOR SWAPPING 
PROPERTY TO SAME THING FOR 
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SWAP IT 
SAYS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 
INTERESTED SELLING US 
PURCHASING PROPERTY, NONE OF 
THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DEFINE 
THAT 
I'M OUT. 
>> THEN THAT BASICALLY REDUCES 
ANY SERVICE FOR LAND 
ACQUISITION AT THIS POINT AS I 
SAID WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IN 
PLACE HOW DO ANY OF THAT UNTIL 
WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN THE 
PROCESS WHY WOULD WE PUT YOU 
KNOW I HAVE THIS PERSON MONEY 
IT WOULD BE BUDGETED AND SO 
THAT WHEN THAT DOES COME FORTH 
FOR APPROVAL AND THEN GIVES A 
PERSON A GREEN LIGHT WE HAVE 
THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET 
AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND 
SPEND WEEK AND WE CAN DO THAT 
BUDGET ADJUSTMENT I SAID AT 
THAT POINT IN TIME WHEN WE 
FINALIZE HOW THE PROCESS IS 
GOING TO BE DONE. 
>> I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 
DOING WITH ALL THESE OTHER 
THINGS IS TRYING TO CUT THE 
THINGS WE DON'T NEED IT SO TO 
ME 16,000 OR 15,000 ADJUSTMENT 
LATER IN THE YEAR. COULD 
HANDLE IT. 
>> MAYOR YES. OK QUICK 
QUESTION I AM UNDER THE 
IMPRESSION THAT REAL ESTATE 
ACQUISITION SPECIALIST COULD 
ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH. 
>> MY THINGS PRICE BOULEVARD 
YOU KNOW THE INTERACTION SOME 
OF THOSE LOT AND NOW WE'LL 
HAVE TO GO THROUGH EMINENT 
DOMAIN IT ALSO HAVE TO DO 
WITH. CORRIDOR THAT WE HAD 
JUST OVER THEIR SPRING GAME. 
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER 
THE THINGS THAT THAT REAL 
ESTATE NOW WITH THAT AND 
CURRENTLY ISN'T IT TRUE THAT 
THE CITY RAISE OFFICE IS 
HANDLING ALL OF THAT. 
>> YES, IT IS TRUE. 
>> OK AND THE INDIAN ARMY'S 
ONE HOME AND THERE'S A 
CORRECTION ON COMMISSIONER 
THERE'S CORRECTION ON THAT 
ANSWER ALL CITY ATTORNEY GO 
AHEAD PLEASE DON'T KNOW MAN I 
DON'T WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 
OFFICE IS HANDLING EVERYTHING 
YOU JUST LISTED. 
>> THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 
HAS HANDLED. THE ACQUISITION 
FOR PRICE BOULEVARD. GREAT 
EXPENSIVE TIME FOR ONE OF OUR 
PARALEGALS IT AND THOSE 
PARCELS THAT ARE GOING TO 
EMINENT DOMAIN HAVE BEEN SENT 
TO SPECIAL COUNSEL. SO NONE OF 
THIS FUN GOES TOWARD THAT. BUT 
THE OTHER ITEMS YOU MENTIONED. 
AND I'M NOT SURE I HEARD THE 
FULL LIST I DO NOT BELIEVE 
THAT OUR OFFICE IS HANDLING 
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY OTHER 
ACQUISITION WE DO REVIEW A 
RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE THAT 
COMES THROUGH THEY'LL COME TO 
COMMISSION. BUT WE DON'T 
HANDLE OF THE UNDERLYING WORK 
ON ACQUIRING OR SELLING 
PROPERTIES. OTHER THAN AS FOR 
PRICE BOULEVARD WIDENING AND 
WE ARE CURRENTLY CLOSING ON TO 
WIN THE WAR FINISHED WITH THAT 
TASK. THERE'S A THING IN SANTA 
FROM A DUMBING 
>> ONE WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING 
WAS BRING HAVEN BOULEVARD 
REMEMBER THAT AND WHERE ALL 
PROPERTIES AND WE WERE 
SUPPOSEDLY ENDING. LETTERS OUT 
TO TRY TO PURCHASE THOSE 
PROPERTIES IN CREATING 
FIREMAN, A I YOU HAD SOME SORT 
OF WORK BUT THAT NO MA'AM. 
>> OKAY COMMISSIONER CAROLYN 
HAD TO YET COMMISSIONER CARE 
SOME SCARY BRANCO THE LAND 
ACQUISITION CONSULTANT THAT 
WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS SO SHE 
WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACQUIRING 
THE 5 PROPERTIES ALONG THE 
CORRIDOR AND ALSO PURSUING THE 
30 LOTS. SPRING AND AS YOU 
MENTIONED SENDING OUT LETTERS 
RIGHT NOW THE COMMISSION DID 
ALL BACK IN. FUNDING FOR THIS 
30 PROPERTY. SO WE ARE DOING 
THAT RIGHT THIS MINUTE BUT 
YES, SURE SHE WAS AT 
>> OKAY SO LET'S TALK ABOUT 
THAT YOU HAVE A LAND 
ACQUISITION AND ALL 10. HOW 
MUCH IS THAT OFTEN. 
>> SO IT'S AN HOURLY RATE SO 
WE DON'T PAYMENTS WE USE HER 
AND THE PROJECTS THAT SHE 
WOULD BE WORK OUR COMMISSION 
DIRECTED. SO RIGHT 
SPRING HAVEN IS ON HOLD 
BECAUSE OF FUNDING TO PURCHASE 
THE PROPERTY HAS PUT ON FOR 
EXTENDED. FUNDED AND THEN IT 
WOULD BE THE OTHER PROJECTS 
FOR THE BLOCKS AT THE 
DIRECTION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO 
SURPLUS LAND SWAP OR PROPERTY 
WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS WHO ARE 
INTERESTED IN. YOU KNOW 
SWAPPING A LOT FOR ONE OF THE 
CITY OWN LOTS. 
>> OKAY OTHERS THAT. 
>> RIGHT HERE'S WHAT I'M 
TRYING TO GET OUT WE HAVE A 
LAND ACQUISITION OF AND THAT 
WE'RE DOING USING FOR ONE 
THING WE'RE USING. LAND 
CONSULTANT FOR THE MYAKKA HAVE 
THE ORDER PURCHASE. WE'RE 
HAVING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND 
IN A NEW MC RAIN AMOUNT OF 
HOURS. ON LAND ACQUISITION 
ISSUES AN ITEM AS FAR AS GREAT 
LITTLE OF ART. MY POINT IS. IS 
THAT THE. MINIMAL AMOUNT 
THAT'S BEING PUT IN HERE. 
WE'RE A PHYSICIANS. WILL FAR 
OUTWEIGH WHAT IT IS THAT WE 
WOULD WE WOULD SPEND IN THOSE 
OUT DON'T AND THAT WAS POINT 
OF PUTTING IT IN HERE AND THAT 
WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF IT 
BEING IN HERE UP UNTIL 2010. 
>> I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE 
THIS WAS ON THE LIST TO NEXT. 
>> AND THEN BECAUSE WE PUT 
EVERYTHING BACK IN IS HOW IT 
GOT BACK IN THAT. 
>> SO IF IT WAS. IT IS NOT 
NEEDED OR NECESSARY ENOUGH. 
YOU KNOW TO BE NEXT IN THE 
FIRST PLACE WHY DO WE. I THINK 
WE NEED RIGHT NOW AND NOT DO A 
BUDGET ADJUSTMENT LATER WHEN 
WE FINALLY GET EVERYTHING 
TOGETHER ON THOSE TOPICS. 
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE I THINK 
WE CAN DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT 
JUST AS A REMINDER BUDGET 
PROPOSALS WERE DEFINED IT. SO 
IT WASN'T BASED ON. 
>> NEED IT WAS THE DIRECTION 
WE'RE NOT NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT 
A LOT A LOT OF THEM. 
>> THANKS THE SHORTAGE AND 
THEN WE PUT THEM ALL BACK IN 
AND WE FOUND MAKE SURE OTHER 
COST REDUCTIONS. 
>> SO ACTUALLY YOU'RE BUYING 
WITH REMOVING IT AGAIN AND 
THEN GETTING A BUDGET 
ADJUSTMENT WHEN WE MIGHT NEED 
IT. OK THANK YOU. 
>> LET'S GET A CONSENSUS TO 
REMOVE THE REAL ESTATE 
CONSULTANT SAVING THE $15,000 
YEAR VICE MAYOR YES, I'M A YES 
COMMISSIONER YES. HARRISON. 
>> I THAT'S STILL PASSES 3 TO 
BECAUSE COMMISSIONER HANKS IS 
ABSENT SO. 
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I JUST 
HAVE A COUPLE. 
>> IN AUGUST. HAD ON THAT LIST 
THE CHALLENGE COINS. AND IT 
WAS ADDED BACK IN. WHAT AMOUNT 
WAS ADDED BACK IN WAS AT THE 
7.20 THAT WE CUT IN JULY OR 
WAS IT THE FULL 1720 THAT WAS 
THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED IN JUNE 
7.20 OKAY. SO WE CUT IT IN. IN 
AUGUST. AND IT WAS ADDED BACK 
IN I WOULD LIKE TO GET A 
CONSENSUS TO REMOVE ANY I KNOW 
IT'S ONLY $720 BUT AT THIS 
POINT EVERY LITTLE 
>> WE DON'T HAVE WE HAVEN'T 
EVEN PASSED THEM OUT YET SO WE 
HAVE ALL THAT WE ORDER. 
>> ALL RIGHT WHEN WE GET THEM 
FROM CURRENTLY OKAY. 
>> IT'S I DON'T THAT SOME WILL 
HAVE TO DISCUSS IT AND I MEAN 
NEXT MEETING NOT BUDGET A 
HANDOUT ANY OF THIS. I FOR YOU 
KNOW SOME COMMISSIONERS LIKE 
TO DO AND 
>> YEAH, I MEAN IT DEFINITELY 
NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED 
ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE 
OUTGOING PEOPLE THAT ARE 
INVOLVED IN THESE. 
>> I'D STILL LIKE TO REMOVE 
THE COMMISSIONER MUCH ON THE S 
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER OF 
VICE MAYOR LUKE YES, AND I HAD 
YES, SO THAT COMMISSIONER 
HANKS WAS ABSENT. I KNOW IT'S 
A CONSENSUS BUT I'M STILL JUST 
FOR THE RECORD. HOW READY SO 
THAT ONCE DONE THANK YOU. I 
THE INTERACTIVE GROWTH MODEL 
FOR $75,000. I'D LIKE TO PUT 
THAT ON THE PRIORITY LIST AT 
SOME POINT. AFTER. THE FISCAL 
YEAR STARTS. 
>> THE $75,000 WOULD GO A LONG 
WAY IN REDUCING THE MILLAGE 
RATE. THAT HAD ALREADY REMOVED 
IT WANTS IN AUGUST AND I PUT 
IT BACK IN SO I LIKE TO SEE 
ABOUT GETTING IT REMOVED 
$75,000. 
>> MAYOR BUT QUESTION. 
>> FAR AND THE QUESTION 
DOESN'T MEAN A LOT TO DO WITH 
THE OVERLAY OF I KNOW 
>> CHINA ON MONDAY KNOW KNOW 
IT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE 
ACTIVITY 
>> BUT IT DOES DEAL WITH 
>> ULV EAT RIGHT. 
>> WELL I HAD A FIRST FLOOR, 
HOW IT OPERATES WAS WOULD BE 
WELL PROCESSES WOULD BE. 
>> IT WAS SAID MISTER MILES 
COME SPEAK TO WHAT THAT WOULD 
BE MY NOTES SHOW THAT WAY FOR 
THE CITY TO FORECAST GROWTH BY 
THE NEIGHBORHOODS TIE INTO 
ROADS PLANNING TO ALL THE 
GENERAL AREA. 
>> AN IMPACT ON SOCIAL SERVICE 
ONCE I CITY SERVICES. 
>> OKAY, BUT DIDN'T WE SAY 
THAT WE NEEDED A. ANY OF THEM 
OR OF A FISH AND SEA LIFE IS 
THE TERM IN. 
>> YOU KNOW HOW ALL AND NO OF 
PLANNING. 
>> ENGINEERING IN AND 
BUILDING. 
>> THAT WAS AN PROCESS. 
>> WE'VE GOT MISTER MILES HERE 
TO SPEAK TO. 
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK 
THIS THROUGH THAT IF YOU'RE 
GOING TO HAVE THAT ONE THEN 
MAYBE YOU WOULD NEED OTHER ONE 
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING FIGURE 
OUT YOU KNOW. 
>> MISTER MOUTH FOR THE RECORD 
FRANK MILES DIRECTOR OF 
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 
SERVICES. THOSE ARE 2 
DIFFERENT. 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. 
>> WHAT YOU ALL PUT INTO THE 
BUDGET WAS A DEVELOPMENT 
PROCESS REVIEW WHICH WILL 
INVOLVE REVIEWING OR 
PERMITTING. PLANNED REVIEW 
PROCESS ET CETERA. THAT'S KIND 
OF THAT'S PAID OUT OF THE 
BUILDING ONLY TIME. 
>> WHAT THIS IS IS A SOFTWARE. 
A PROGRAM, IT'S A MODEL THAT 
WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO 
INCLUDE DATA AND BE ABLE TO DO 
FOR LAND USE. 
>> VARIOUS NEEDS AND 
REQUIREMENTS. 
>> IN MY VIEW, I MEAN IT'S A 
NICE THING TO HAVE BUT IT'S 
NOT A NECESSARY THING TO HAVE 
IN. THE SAINT PRESENT 
ENVIRONMENT. 
>> AND I ASK A ON THIS PLAY A 
ROLE IN OUR ECONOMIC 
DEVELOPMENT LIKE WE HAVE THIS 
IN PLACE. ONE MYTH I TURN 
AROUND TO A IN A YEARS OR 
WHATEVER IT IS WE ARE LOOKING 
AT A FORECAST OF ACT AMOUNT OF 
A FALL. THEIR AVERAGE MEDIAN 
INCOME WILL BE ACT AND THEN 
THEY MAKE THAT FORECAST AND 
BRING IT IS A ON OUT THERE. 
>> HARTMAN 
>> I'M IN THERE YOU KNOW 
DEVELOP AS I KNOW THEY'RE ALL 
ABOUT PROJECTS AND ALL I DID 
NOT KNOW WHAT IS THAT. 
>> I'M THING THAT IT OR I 
REMEMBER THIS WOULD HAVE PART 
BUT NOT THE KEY ROLE. THE WHAT 
YOU WOULD BE REFERRING TO 
WOULD BE MORE DEMOGRAPHICS 
LOOKING AT AND THAT TYPE OF 
INFORMATION WHAT THIS IS 
LOOKING AT HIS LAND USE. AND 
WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTIONS THAT 
COULD HE MADE WITH VACANT BUT 
AGAIN I THINK YOU KNOW THIS IS 
A IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE. 
THIS YEAR I I WOULD NOT 
RECOMMEND THAT IT BE MOVED 
FORWARD IN THIS ENVIRONMENT 
SLANT TO THE PRIORITY 
>> WE CAN PUT WOULD WRITE IT, 
NICE ADDITION THIS IS THE 
GRAPHIC. YES, MA'AM 75,000 
YES, MA'AM. 
>> BUT AGAIN I THOUGHT THAT 
WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE 
ULDC REWRITE THAT IN THE NEXT 
ITEM I'M GOING TO START A BOW. 
>> THE NEXT ITEM I'M GOING TO 
TALK ABOUT. 
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M OKAY. 
>> I. 
>> SO I'D LIKE TO GET A 
CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE 
INTERACTIVE GROWTH MODEL FOR 
$75,000 IN ADDED TO THE 
PRIORITY LIST. 
>> COMMISSIONER MUCH YES. VICE 
MAYOR YES. COMMISSIONER HANKS 
THIS IS SOME OF INTERACTIVE 
GROWTH MODEL FOR $75,000 IN 
MISTER MILES HAD SAID THAT IT 
HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WAS 
REMOVING IF YOU WANT TO HEAR 
WHAT IT IS IS YES. OK THANK 
YOU. COMMISSIONER SOME. ALL 
RIGHT AND I OBVIOUSLY I'M A 
YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 
THE NEXT ONE IS THE ACTIVITY 
CENTER OVERLAY A $150,000 THAT 
REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET AUGUST 
AND PLACED BACK INTO THE 
BUDGET. THIS IS THE FORM BASED 
CODE AND IS A CONSULTANT. AND 
WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE ULDC 
DONE SO WHY WOULD WE BE 
FOCUSING ON THIS TOO AT THE 
SAME TIME IT'S THAT DEPARTMENT 
IS A LITTLE BIT SHORT STAFFED 
AND I JUST THINK WE COULD TAKE 
THIS OUT OF THE BUDGET AND IT 
TO THE PRIORITY LIST ARE 
DONATED TO THE PRIORITY LIST. 
BUT I THINK THIS IS TAKING OFF 
WAY TOO MUCH IN THAT 
DEPARTMENT CAN CHEW UNTIL WE 
GET THAT YOU WANT TO SEE DONE. 
VICE MAYOR. 
>> AND I'M TOTALLY THE 
OPPOSITE I THINK NOW IS THE 
TIME TO DO THIS ACTUALLY I 
THINK WE'RE WAY BEHIND DOING 
THIS AT OVERLAY OF THE 
ACTIVITY CENTERS. I MEAN HOW 
MANY TIMES ACTUALLY MISTER 
HANKS SAID BUSINESS. YOU KNOW 
HAS CHANGED. RETAIL HAS 
CHANGED. AND WE HAVE THESE 
PERCENTAGES WITH A NICE 
ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT IS 
SHOVING DEVELOPERS RATE OUT 
THE DOOR. I MEAN YOU WANT TO 
HELP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 
WITHIN THE STATE YOU GET THESE 
ACTIVITY CENTER STRAIGHTENED 
OUT. THEY'RE NOT WHERE THEY 
NEED TO BE SO. I MEAN I'VE 
SEEN PROPERTIES LINE WITH IN 
ACTIVITY CENTER THAT HAS BEEN 
SITTING THERE FOR 20 YEARS. 
NOT BECAUSE THERE HAVEN'T BEEN 
DEVELOPERS KNOCKING ON THE 
DOOR BECAUSE OUR PERCENTAGES 
DON'T ALLOW IT TO BE SOLD AND 
UTILIZE SO I THINK THIS 
OVERLAY IS VITALLY IMPORTANT 
AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE 
CITY IS GROWING TOO MUCH 
COMMERCIAL WAY TOO IMPORTANT 
TO THIS CITY AND TO ME HE'S 
DEFINITELY NECESSARY. BUT 
POLICE CITY 
JUST A. 
>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS ONE 
ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE 
AUTOMATIC. AND WE'RE TRYING TO 
ATTRACT BUSINESSES. IT COMES 
WITH A LOT YOU KNOW AS I DID. 
COMPLICATIONS. 
♪
>> YEAH. 
>> IT'S COMPLICATIONS SO. 
WE'RE RUNNING INTO SOME 
PROBLEMS OF IS THE NBA WILL 
COME BUT WE'RE BASED CODE IS 
MORE MODERN WAY TO LOOK 
RUSSELL CONCEPT IT WAS THE 
NIGER IF IF WE CAN GET THE 
ULDC DONE AND THAT'S BEEN 2 
YEARS, YOU KNOW THIS IS YOU I 
UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THIS IS 
ALSO A HUGE TARGET TAKE THIS 
IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING PARK, 
THE STAFFING LEVELS IN THAT 
DEPARTMENT ARE. 
>> RIGHT FIRST AT THE TO TAKE 
THIS ON AND TRY AND FINISH THE 
ULDC WITH AN UNDERSTAFFED 
DEPARTMENT HOW IS THAT EVEN 
GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WELL 
JUST LEARNED WITH THIS WAY. 
>> I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO 
EVENTUALLY FOR BASE CO FOR OUR 
ACTIVITY CENTERS MAY NOT BE 
THIS UPCOMING FISCAL 
YEAR, BUT IF YOU MAXIMUM 
FLEXIBILITY YEARS SO FOR A 
REAL GOOD OF BUILDING. GOING 
TO SEE CHANGE. 
>> SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THIS 
IS FOR CONSULTANT THIS IS NOT 
LAID ON STAFF TO PERFORM THIS. 
HOLE. 
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO 
GET THE ULDC DAWN THAT'S BEING 
DONE BY CANCELED. WELL THAT IS 
BEING I I. SO LET'S GET A 
CONSENSUS WE HEARD IT BOTH 
WAYS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY 
QUESTIONS BEFORE GET THAT 
FINAL CONSENSUS. CONSENSUS IS 
TO REMOVE THE ACTIVITY CENTER 
OVERLAY $750,000 AND PUTTING 
IT A PRIORITY IF WE NEED TO. 
COMMISSIONER RICH. 
>> A LITTLE MORE ON THIS ONE 
I'M GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO 
AGREE WITH THE MATTER WHERE IT 
CAN BE PUT ON HOLD. JUST A 
LITTLE BIT. ALSO YES. 
>> HANKS. 
>> I TALKED TO THEM. 
>> ASK A QUESTION. WE'RE GOING 
TO HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION 
REQUEST TO BE FUN, BUT IT'S 
NOT WORKING OKAY. COMMISSIONER 
KARA SOME. 
>> IF THIS IS A CONTRACT 
SERVICE DOESN'T THINK LIKE 
MONTH, THE ACTUALLY IF SOMEONE 
IN THERE. 
>> YOU HAVE TO WRITE IS TO 
HAVE TO GO THROUGH 
PROCUREMENT, IT'S GOING TO 
IT'S SETTING IT OUT PROBABLY 6 
MONTHS AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 
SOLIDIFY MY POINT WE DON'T 
HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THIS AND 
DO THE OTHER PROJECTS AND 
RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY 
ALREADY HAVE. 
>> THEY'RE PLATO OVER I DON'T 
THINK YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING ONE 
THING I WHAT I'M SAYING IS 
THAT. NOW WHY NOT WHAT I'M 
SAYING IS THAT. 
IF IT THING DONE BY US AND 
BOTH AND. YOU WOULD HAVE GO IN 
AROUND OFF. AND YEAH FOR BIG 
THE WHOLE 9 YARDS AND NECK IN 
A CELL. WELL HALF WILL TAKE AT 
LEAST 6 MARK. YOU CAN ONLY DO 
THAT IF THE BUDGET. BE YOU 
WANT TO IT'S REALLY A BASIS OF 
THE YOU WANT TO START THE 
CLOCK. OCTOBER 1ST. OR DO YOU 
TO ON FROM THERE AND THEN 
AGAIN NO OTHER YEAR TO BE 
COMPLETED. I'M NOT SURE WHERE 
THE APP IS A ROLE IN THIS 
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS IS ALL 
OUT OR IN. AND IT WAS AND NOW 
IT IS THEN YOU GET HER OR NO 
RECOMMENDATION AND HOW TO 
CHANGE THAT. THE ACTIVITY I 
THINK THAT THE MORE YOU PUT IT 
OFF. THE WORSE IT IS BECAUSE 
IT DOES TAKE A WHILE FOR THE 
PROCESS. IT'S F I'M WONDERING. 
>> SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND 
HELP ME A CITY MANAGER. THE 
STAFF OF THAT APARTMENT REITS 
THE PROCUREMENT THE SCOPE AND 
ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF 
WORKS WITH GERMAN TO GET IT 
OUT THERE CHANGES THINGS MAKES 
IT THERE. STAFF AT THE TIME 
THERE'S NO DOUBT MEAN YOU YOUR 
STAFF THAT'S RIGHT. THE. 
>> SO STAFF HAS TO YOU. 
MARRIAGE. ONE SHOULD WANT TO 
KNOW ALL. THAT IS THOSE BUT I 
THINK THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE 
WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE YOU SEE 
FISH EYE ROLL. NEXT YEAR. I 
HEARD 
>> ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE IN THE 
MIDDLE OF A CONSENSUS 
COMMISSIONER MUCH SAID TO 
REMOVE IT, I SAID TO REMOVE 
IT. VICE MAYOR. 
>> NOW I LIVE IN. 
>> HANKS. 
>> YOU KNOW WE RESPECT 
OURSELVES. ON THAT ON THE 
ROAD. NO I'M TALKING WE'RE 
SURE OF THAT AND NO QUESTION 
CITIZENS THAT. ATTACKS WERE I 
HAVE TO SAY NO WHEN PUSH AN 
OFFER. 
>> AND COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL. 
ALL RIGHTY SO THAT STAYS IN. 
THAT A COUPLE MORE GUYS THE 
ARCHAEOLOGIST $51,780. STAFF 
HAD IT REMOVED. I DON'T THINK 
WE NEED TO KEEP STAFF. I DON'T 
THINK THIS IS NECESSARY, I 
DON'T AT THIS POINT IN TIME 
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT 
REMOVED. 
>> I SPEAK TO THAT GO IT SAYS 
ARCHAEOLOGIST BUT THERE'S BEEN 
A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT IT'S 
ACTUALLY A SUSTAINABILITY 
COORDINATOR AND IT WOULD FIT 
IN JUST LIKE 80 DEGREES WAS 
TALKING ABOUT THAT NATURAL 
RESOURCE DEPARTMENT WE ALREADY 
PULLED THE DIRECTOR OUT OF 
THAT MIX. BUT I KNOW A STAFF 
AND I HAVE R CAN STILL 
DEVELOP THAT IN MY OPINION IS 
VERY NECESSARY. BECAUSE IT 
FREES UP THE TO DO WHAT THEY 
WERE WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO 
BE DOING INSTEAD OF RUNNING 
AROUND DOING THE I 
ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF. 
>> SO TO ME I AM NOT YES SAID 
KEEPING IT IN BECAUSE THIS IS 
A DEVELOPMENT AND ADVANCEMENT 
WITHIN THE CITY WERE LARGE 
ENOUGH WE NEED THIS TYPE THAT 
DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK IT 
WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY IS A 
WHOLE. A SUSTAINABILITY 
COORDINATOR. EVEN THE 
COMMISSION I MEAN THEY DO SO 
MUCH WORK DOES LOOK AT THE 
SUSTAINABILITY MANAGERS AND 
THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND OTHER 
PLACES THERE THEY'RE 
PHENOMENAL THEY THEY ASSIST 
AFGHAN COMMISSIONS SO. WHEN 
YOU CALL IT AN ARCHAEOLOGIST 
YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S. 
SOME BONE DIG OR SOMEWHERE 
SOMETHING IT DOESN'T SOUND 
THAT IMPORTANT BUT IF IT'S 
ACTUALLY LISTED AS SAY 
SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR 
MAKES A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE. 
>> MISTER MUCH. 
>> I'D BE IN FAVOR OF PULLING 
IT. 
>> COMMISSIONER HANKS. AND 
COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL. 
>> I REALLY AM I A BUT FOR 
THIS IS A IN THE LAST TIME AND 
I STILL THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL I 
MEAN, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO 
DO IS LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED ON 
THE MYAKKA PATCHY. 
>> YOU KNOW THERE'S 
>> WARM YOU KNOW BRINGS A 
LITTLE SALT BRINGS AN OWNER. 
AND MET OKAY, DON'T MEAN WHAT 
HAPPENED ON AND MY ACT A AND 
THAT WHAT HAPPENED ON NORTH 
PORT HIGH SCHOOL. WHEN IT WAS 
BILL I JUST BELIEVE THAT IF WE 
DON'T YOU. 
>> SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU 
REALLY BELIEVE. 
>> YEAH BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING 
THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO 
EXPLAIN. IF WE DON'T IS 
SOMETHING NOW WE COULDN'T 
YEARS WE COULD LOSE. GREENLEE 
IMPORTANT. 
>> IF YOUR GOAL. 
>> AFTER THAT THAT WE'RE NOT 
EVEN AWARE OF AND I'M JUST. 
>> I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH 
HIS NEW WORTH SEEING. 
>> THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY 
LOOKING AT THAT YOU KNOW I 
JUST CAN'T AFFORD REMOVING IT. 
>> THANK YOU. I ALSO. 
>> IT PASSED 3 TO TO REMOVE 
THE ARCHAEOLOGIST SAVING THE 
$71,000 AT LEAST BE PUT UNDER 
A ALL RIGHT WHAT WAS THAT 
BECAUSE YOUR NUMBERS ARE 
DIFFERENT THAN MINE, 71,000 
YOU 51,000 ARE IN AN AREA I 
HEARD 70 TO A NEW STYLE MAY BE 
THANK YOU IF YOU 1700 NEEDED 
IT SAID JUST LIKE SEEING 
THINGS SORRY ABOUT THAT ALL 
RIGHT 
>> FAMILY SERVICES OPERATIONAL 
NEEDS THAT THE $6,000 FOR 
SOCIAL SERVICES. 
>> I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING 
CONSENSUS WE HAVE A DISCUSSION 
ON IT TO WE WANT TO KEEP IT OR 
DO WE WANT TO REMOVE ITS 
$6,000. MISSION A MARRIAGE BUT 
AS OF THE ONE ABOUT SWEET TO 
YES. I WANT TO KEEP IT. VICE 
MAYOR ABOUT WHAT A SWEET TO 
SOCIAL SERVICES FOR EXPANSION 
YES AND HE SAID SWEET UP. 
>> I KNOW I'M I WANT IT LEFT 
IN. COMMISSIONER THANKS YOU. 
MISTER HARRISON. 
>> AND I AM TOO SO JUST WANTED 
TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD TO 
KEEP IT SINCE WE HAVE THAT 
CONVERSATION. 
>> AND I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE 
THAT I HAVE IS B. 
>> I T UPGRADES FOR SOCIAL 
SERVICES FOR $22,000 WHERE A 
PERCENTAGE AND DOLLAR AMOUNT 
TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON 
SECOND READING ONCE THEY HAVE 
THE ACTUAL FIGURES. SOME OF 
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THIS 
BUDGET THE REST OF IT WILL BE 
PUT TO PRIORITY. AND I GET A 
CONSENSUS TO DO WHAT I JUST 
SAID. 
>> THE CONSENSUS YES THAT I 
THINK WE NEED A FLAT OUT 
DECISION AND NUMBER BECAUSE 
FINANCE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO 
BACK AND RECALCULATE ALL THESE 
FIGURES SUPPORT HAS BEEN 
COULDN'T AND TAKEN OUT IN 
ORDER TO SEE WHERE THE MILLAGE 
RATE IS GOING TO BE RESTING OR 
THE HEARING. SO I THINK WE 
NEED TO PULL. A CERTAIN AMOUNT 
AND PUT OVER INTO THAT 
PRIORITY LIST AND LEAVE THE 
OUT. IN THERE. SO I. 
>> GET A GENERAL IDEA THIS 
SCAM GENERAL IDEA THAT WE 
COULD KEEP IN THE BUDGET SO WE 
CAN BUT THEY SAID 4 CAMERAS OR 
$4,200. 
>> DIDN'T INCLUDE THE LABOR. 
>> ALL RIGHT, I MEAN IF WE 
NEED DIGIT NUMBER THEY'RE 
BUILDING HERE. 
>> GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER 
CARSON. 
>> I SAY LEAVE THE MOUNT IN 
AND BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND 
READING WILL HAVE A BETTER 
IDEA HOW MUCH. WE'RE LOOKING 
AT IF YOU IF THE 06:00AM OR 
AND THEN VERSUS 
ALL AND AND THEN WE CAN MAKE 
THAT ADJUSTMENT AT THE LAST 
MINUTE. 
>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. 
>> THEY'RE GETTING THE NUMBER 
RIGHT NOW AND THERE. 
>> BUT MISS KIM 100 TO SAY 
SOMETHING JUST GOING TO SAY WE 
MUCH FOR HER TO GET ANOTHER 
AND AVOID YEARS AT THE LAST 
MINUTE RIDE ON GOING. 
>> SO WE'RE TRYING I DON'T SEE 
HIM MAKING MUCH OF A 
DIFFERENCE AT ALL. 
>> IS IT SAFE TO SAY IF YOU 
NEED 6 CAMERAS AND THERE'S A 
TOTAL OF 10 CAMERAS THAT IT'S 
60% OF $22,000. 
>> THOSE ARE SO THE TECHNICAL 
OF US. FOR THOSE CAMERAS THAT 
ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT 
FOR PEOPLE CREDIT ALL OVER THE 
PLACE AND I JUST AS SOON KEEP 
THEM IN. 
>> THE GOOD WORDS, I T. SO 
EACH CAMERA IS NOT ALWAYS THE 
SAME AMOUNT. SO THERE'S 
MEGAPIXELS TO THEM THERE'S PAN 
TILT ZOOM ALL KINDS OF 
DIFFERENT FEATURES TO THEM. I 
CANNOT TELL YOU OFF THE TOP MY 
HEAD, WHAT THIS COULD BUT 
THEIR NUMBERS CONSIST OF I 
WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE 
QUOTE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN AND 
WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT 
BEFORE CAMERAS THAT WE'RE NOT 
DOING. SO I CAN POSSIBLY GET 
THAT FOR YOU TOMORROW, BUT NOT 
TONIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE 
IT WITH ME I I WOULD RATHER. 
>> DO AS I THINK SOME OF THE 
OTHERS ARE THINKING RIGHT NOW 
TO LEAVE IT AT 22,000 IN. AND 
LET FINANCE TAKE CARE OF IT. 
IT'S. 
>> OR CAMERAS MORE. 
>> AND THAT IS JUST STATED 
THERE IS SOME ACTIVITY GOING 
ON THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO 
DO. AND WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY 
SAVE AND ARE PUSHING OVER TO 
THE PRIORITY LIST FOR $1000 
ANYHOW. SO I'D RATHER KEEP IT 
ALL IN IN IN THERE. AND THAT 
WAY WE'VE GOT THE ANSWER 
TONIGHT. 
>> AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT 
WHAT THE PROPER CAMERAS ARE 
COSTING REALLY SO. DEAL WITH 
THAT LATER. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO CHANGED A 
CONSENSUS TO KEEP THE SOCIALS 
IF THE SOCIAL SERVICES 80 
UPGRADES AT A 100% AS STATED 
IN THE BUDGET. YES. NOT ONLY 
AM YES. 
>> WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE 
SEEN IT SPLIT, BUT I 
UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS. 
>> I BELIEVE LET ME JUST 
DOUBLE CHECK ONE 2ND. IT'S ALL 
I'VE GOT SO. IS THAT THAT. HOW 
MUCH WAS THE ADMIN SPECIALIST 
IN THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT WHAT 
IS THAT'S OUR E. SO THAT WE 
HAVE A NUMBER I NEVER REMEMBER 
HEARING NUMBER YOU KNOW THEY 
COULD BE 1000. 
>> I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHICH 
ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
>> IT'S TRUE. THERE ARE 2 THEM 
OUT THE ONE WE HAD JUST 
RECENTLY I THOUGHT THAT WAS 
THE 1000. NO IT'S NOT ONE LEAD 
MONTH. 
>> WELL MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING 
TO SAVE ANYTHING THE LESSER 
ONE THAT HAS BEEN HERE THE 
LONGEST YOU'RE EXPECTING MORE 
MONEY ON THEM, WE'VE GOT TO 
MOVE FAST. 
>> OH YEAH. I MEAN IT USUALLY 
I KNOW LAST IN FIRST 
>> IF NO NO A 1310. I'M SORRY, 
WHAT IS THE DEFEAT AT 20,310. 
OKAY SO THE STAFF ASSISTANT 
ONE HOW MUCH WAS THAT. 41,041 
1000. 
>> IN OTHER WORDS, THE 
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BE REMOVING 
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE 
SPECIALIST AND AND REPLACING 
WITH THIS APP IS THIS AND. 
THAT WILL THEN REFLECT A 
$20,310 A THING IS THAT 
CORRECT. 
>> ALL RIGHT SO DO YOU HAPPEN 
TO HAVE A RUNNING 
TOTAL OF. WHAT WE'VE ADDED. 
WHAT WE'VE REMOVED AND HOW 
THAT IMPACTS THE MILLAGE RATE. 
BECAUSE THEY KNOW BY ADDING A 
FORENSIC ANALYSIS. THE. 
>> A FORENSIC ANALYSIS OF 
CRIME ANALYSIS. AND THEN 
CHANGE IN THIS AD AND ASIDE 
THE OTHER CHANGES THEY CAN 
TALK ABOUT. 
>> MAYBE WE SHOULD MAYOR, I 
MEAN YEAH MAYBE IF WE SHOULD. 
>> THEY GET GREAT 15. OH THAT 
ALLOW YOU HAVE ACHIEVED SO 
GOOD SHE'S GOT SHE GOT IT I 
GOT 
>> OKAY, YOU REDUCED BY 
284,340. THAT WOULD BE AN 
ADDITIONAL POINT YOU 73. THE 
CREASE IN THE MILLAGE 0, 5, 
AND THEN 3. 7, 3, 
AND THEY. 
>> THE AMOUNT REDUCED WAS 200. 
284,380 OR THANK YOU. 
>> SO 300. 
>> 2, 8, 4, 3, 4, 0 IS WHAT 
WAS REDUCED DOLLAR WISE. THANK 
YOU AND THE MILLAGE RATE IS 
THEN REDUCED TO REDUCED BY 0, 
5, 7, 3, FOR NEW MILLAGE RATE 
OF. 
>> 3.7 6, 6, 7, 3, 7, 6, 6, 7, 
>> SO WE HAVE TO DO THE 
MILLAGE RATE MOTION FIRST. 
MAKE A MOTION TO SET MILLAGE 
RATE 3.7 6, 7, 
>> MOTION 
>> ON THE FLOOR SET THE 
MILLAGE RATE FOR ORDINANCE 
NUMBER. 2, 0, 2, 0 DASH 3. 0. 
AND CONTINUE IT ON INTO 
SEPTEMBER 17TH FORCE I. 
>> THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU 
AMENDING FIRST REASON READING 
OR CHANGING IT ON SECOND 
READING NOW. 
>> LET ME JUST MAKE THE MOTION 
AGAIN A MOVE TO DIRECT THE 
CLERK ON 
>> NIGHT ALL. 
>> MAYBE 
>> I MOVED TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 30 
PER SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 17TH. 
>> AND JUST IN THE MILLAGE 
RATE TO THE 3.7 6, 6, 7, 
>> MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY VICE 
MAYOR JOY HERE SECOND AGO. OK 
I THINK WE'RE ALL SECOND THAT 
OKAY MOTION TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 BOAT THAT 
WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER 
HANKS. VICE MAYOR MADE A 
MOTION TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 
NUMBER 2020 DASH 30 SEPTEMBER 
EACH MISSION MEETING ADJUSTING 
THE MILLAGE RATE TO REFLECT. I 
3.7 6, 6, 7, THAT WAS SECONDED 
BY COMMISSIONER HANKS ANYTHING 
TO THAT VICE MAYOR, A MAN. IT 
SURE ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING 
THEY'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON. 
THANK GOD. HALLELUJAH YOU WANT 
TO WEIGH IN. LET'S GO AHEAD 
AND TAKE THEM BOTH. 
A GREAT THING. 
>> MY AND GRANDMOTHER. 
>> AND THAT PASSED 5 TO 0. 
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE 
ACTUAL BUDGET I WANT TO MY 
FELLOW COMMISSIONERS STAFF 
CITY MANAGER THIS WAS A VERY. 
DIFFICULT BUT CYCLED. 
>> BECAUSE WE HAD ONE SET OF 
NUMBERS AND ASSUMPTIONS IN 
MARCH. AND THEN EVERY AND THEN 
COCA ROAD AHEAD AND JUST 
TOTALLY DESTROYED EVERYTHING 
WE SAID NOT TO EXCEED AT THE 
SAME RATE AS LAST YEAR. AND WE 
WORKED REALLY REALLY HARD AS A 
TEAM AND TOGETHER TO REDUCE 
THIS AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY 
CAN YES, THERE'S PLENTY MORE 
WE CAN REDUCE THERE'S NO 2 
WAYS ABOUT IT. WE HAVE REALLY 
REALLY TRIED TO FIND 
COMPROMISE AND WORK TOGETHER. 
NOT EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY 
COMPLETE WINNER THAT EVERYBODY 
WALKS AWAY A COMPLETE LOSER 
BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN OUR 
CITIZENS ARE NOT AS MUCH AS 
THEY WERE. WE HAVE NOT TO 
EXCEED AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY 
NOT PAYING AS MUCH AS THEY 
WERE LAST YEAR WITH AN I JUST 
WANT TO COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR 
THE EFFORTS. THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO 
WEIGH IN WIDELY ACCEPTED IF 
NOT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT 
ORDINANCE. 
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LISA 
QUESTION. THAT 0, 5, 7, 3, 
WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO TO 
THAT AVERAGE $200,000 HOME. 
THE FOR DEVICE. O MISTER 
AVERAGE YOU HAVE THE POLLS 
AYER DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF THAT 
IF GREECE OF 
>> ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE 
GUYS. 
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 
HOW MOVED TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 
FOR SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 17TH, CHANGING BE. 
>> CONSENSUS THAT WERE AGREED 
UPON. 
>> ARE THOSE CAPTURED ARE 
GOING NEED TO READ OKAY AND 
AND I ASK THAT QUESTION FIRST 
HOW MUCH WAS THAT IN AT WHAT 
WAS THAT ALL. COST OF WHAT. 
>> THE ADDITION BUT WE PUT 
BACK AND I FEEL LIKE IT WAS 
LIKE 213,000 IN CHANGE BUT 
MAYBE IT WAS MORE. 
>> IT WAS DECREASED BY 
$284,340. 
>> NOW I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE 
ADDED BACK IN THE FORENSIC 
EXAMINER AND SO ON SO I NEED 
TO KNOW WHAT BACK UP WHAT BACK 
OFF AND THAT'S ALL THAT WAS 
THAT WAS THE GRAND TOTAL 
ADDING 
>> PLUS A MINUS IS EQUAL 
>> SO COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL 
AND JUST JUST A HANG ON 
COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL. 
>> SO WHEN STAFF WE ASKED 
STAFF IF THEY HAVE THEIR 
NUMBERS AND SHE SAID YES, AND 
IT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE 
POSITIONS WE HAD IT TOOK INTO 
ACCOUNT TO THE POSITIONS WE 
REMOVED TOOK INTO ACCOUNT OF 
THE ITEMS. THAT WE REMOVED. 
AND THEY SAID THAT IT HAD A 
REDUCED BUDGET AMOUNT OF 
$284,340. AND THEY'RE NOW JUST 
DOUBLE CHECKING THE NUMBERS. 
>> YEAH, MY 
>> NUMBERS YOU NEED NOT BE ALL 
THAT IN ANY WAY OR FORM. 
THEY'RE ON. 
>> 30 TO US IF HE OR. NOW ON 
OR. 
>> EVER 150,000 JUST AN EYE 
ON. 75,000. 
>> THE TOTAL CUTS WERE 
397,650. THE TOTAL ADS. WE'RE 
113,310 OR A DIFFERENCE OF A 
KIND. $284,340 AND I SAW YOU 
BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF THE 
USE OF THOSE NUMBERS MATCH, 
COULD YOU GIVE ME THE 
>> YOU HAVE. 
>> YOU HAVE THE EXAMINER AT 
$28,830. AND YOU HAVE THE 
CRIME ANALYST. AT $43,480. 
THEN YOU LEAST THEY CAN BE A 
TOUGH MAN. 
>> YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH 
THAT. 
>> I DO THAT WELL ON DAMAGE. 
OKAY THAT'S WHERE KIDS. 
>> JUST JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE 
BIT OF CHIEF CARSON SEEMED TO 
BE COMPLETELY OK WITH THAT 
NUMBER WHEN HE WAS UP TALKING 
ABOUT IT. 
>> NOT ME, BUT OK. 
>> WELL IF YOU WANT TO HAVE 
YOUR SON COME BACK UP BECAUSE 
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS 
EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT 2 
POSITIONS AND HE SAID THAT ON 
AVERAGE IT'S LIKE I'VE 
POSITIONS AND THAT IF WE WERE 
TO DO IT IN ANOTHER WAY IT 
WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER. 
♪
SO 
♪
LET'S GET HIM UP HERE IF WE 
NEED TO REDO EVERYTHING. CITY 
MANAGER. 
>> IF LIKE TO DO 
>> IT WOULD BE PUSHING IT THEY 
CAN SEE NUMBER OF I THINK IT 
WAS $260,000 RIGHT WHICH WHICH 
I THINK WE APPOINTED TO 
POSITIONS TIME RIGHT ARE YOU 
OKAY WITH THAT YES. IT IS IT'S 
OKAY FOR YOU BECAUSE 
COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL WANTS TO 
MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE. GOT 
WHAT YOU NEED. YES, DID. 
COMMISSIONER KERIK SO 
IF IF. 
>> WERE SOMETHING IN. THEY 
WERE TAKING THOSE NUMBERED 
OVER THE LAST 5 YEARS AND NOW 
THAT WE ACTUALLY CREATED. AN 
ENVIRONMENT WHERE MORE PEOPLE 
ARE BEING HIRED. I WAS WORRIED 
THAT BIG IS IT 
ISN'T ACTUALLY TO NOW AND I 
THOUGHT THAT I HEARD AGREEMENT 
AND THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY 
BRING IT BACK DOWN ONE EVEN 
OR. PUTTING A 100,000 BACK IN 
IS. THE SO NOW I'M HEARING AT 
ALL BEGIN IN MOUNT IS OKAY. 
>> SO THIS TIME NO PLACE TO 4 
DECISIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE. 
MUCH. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR 
SOLUTIONS. THERE WAS A NEARLY 
4 POSITIONS. 
>> I MEAN IT'S WE JUST END IT 
FOR FOR THE WEST VILLAGES DO 
THAT DOLLAR DOLLAR MOST GO TO 
COURT EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY 
4 POSITIONS IN 4 POSITIONS. 
SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT SERVICES 
SO. WE CAN SOAR. 
>> AND THEN HOLD TO 
>> WELL IT SAYS THAT A A. 
>> 50. WAS. 
>> IN POSITIONS WOULD BE QUITE 
A 150,075 1000 PEACE THROUGH. 
>> WHAT ABOUT THE VEHICLES 
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER 
STUFF. 
>> THAT'S JUST SALARY AND WE 
HAVE JUST YOU KNOW THEY CAN 
BE. 
>> IT'S NOT THE POSITIONS IN 
PEOPLE LEAVE STATE. IT'S 
TREATED. 
>> SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET 
AT IS. 
>> ADDING $150,000 IN IT THE 
BUDGET. I MY CRACK ADDING THEY 
WANT IT. YEAH HAVING ON 50 IN 
CUBA BY THAT. IT WOULD JUST OR 
BE REALLY WEAK IN THE RAID. 
AND TAKING THAT MONEY OUT OF 
ON DOWN. 
>> I CAN I ASK WHAT WAS OUT 
BECAUSE I HEARD HEARD ON 
199,000 PREVIOUSLY. SO WHAT IS 
THE AMOUNT THAT WAS YOU'D INTO 
THE VACANCY. 
>> THE AVERAGE OF 273,000. 
6.50. 
>> I HAVE 290 OR 1520 HOURS OF 
GUYS GUYS GUYS WE'VE GOT WAY 
TOO MANY PEOPLE WATCH AND 
WE'VE GET THE ANSWER TO VICE 
MAYOR'S QUESTION PLEASE. 
>> BASE PAIRS 273,006 50 PLUS 
20,005. 
>> SO THAT IS 293,000. AND 
YOU'RE STATING THAT IS WHAT 
THAT WOULD BE FOR OFFICERS. 
YES. 
>> YOU'RE YOUR HAS NOW. 
>> 2 OFFICERS WHICH WOULD 
EQUATE TO A 150,000. I WILL 
AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CARE'S 
OWN TO WHAT WE JUST DID 
PREVIOUSLY AND ALL THAT 
150,000 OUT OF. THE 
SUSTAINABILITY ON. THAT WAY IT 
DOESN'T CHANGE ALTER ANYTHING 
WITH WHAT WE JUST DID ELITE. 
>> BUT HE THEY'RE SAYING LIKE 
THAT 100 BILLION 1 MILLION 
DOLLARS GOING BACK IN. I WOULD 
HATE TO CHANGE THAT NO DRINK 
BECAUSE THEN. 
>> I WOULD RATHER DO IT THAT 
WAY. YEAH. 
>> SHE 
>> BUT COMMISSIONER SOME. 
>> WELL THAT WAS I WANTED TO 
MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR 
THOUGH WHETHER MADE THE MOTION 
ADDED THAT IN THEIR MOTION. 
>> ALL ALONG WITH THE FACT 
THAT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
>> WE REMOVE ALL. 
WOULD BE. 
>> BROUGHT BACK IN AS MUCH 
TIME AS ONLINE. 
>> AND GREEN. 
>> IF YOU UNDERSTAND AND HEY 
GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THANK 
YOU. YEAH. 
>> IT'S GOOD TO THE POSITION 
THING FOR THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT I DON'T THINK WE 
NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. 
YEAH, I MEAN THAT YOU DON'T 
GET NO SITTING HERE SHAKING 
THEIR HEAD. NO THEY DON'T NEED 
TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. IT'S 
OK THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT 
NOW. 
>> HOW CAN IT BE OK THE WAY IS 
NOW ONE IS SAYING THAT YOU'RE 
REDUCING IT BY ALMOST 300,000 
WERE ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO 
REDUCE THAT 50. 
>> ALSO HUMID WITH THE 
POSITIONS WE DON'T DO ANYTHING 
WITHOUT ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN 
SHOULD GO ARE SAYING IS THAT 
YOU KNOW 100% OR THE POSITIONS 
THAT WE WERE THOSE IN THE 
BUDGET. THEY ARE ALL SAYING 
THE SAME THING. YEAH I THINK 
IS NOT REALLY. 
>> WHICH HE IT'S NOT REALLY 
LIKE 
>> DO I HAVE I HAVE HEARD I 
PUT IT AS A CONTEST ABOUT 
MAYBE ALL GOING TO COME TO US 
AREN'T I TO ADD A $150,000 
INTO THE BUDGET TO ADJUST FOR 
THE POLICE AGENCY RATE AND 
REMOVING THE MONEY ON THE 
THANK YOU. RUSSIAN YOU'RE 
TRYING TO YOU ALL I THINK WHAT 
YOU MEAN IS TO REDUCE THIS 
REDUCTION WE TOOK BY 100 
THAT'S 
>> SAME THING YOU HAVE TO ADD 
IT BACK INTO THE BUDGET BUT 
NOW 
>> THAT'S THE NEWS FROM RIGHT 
NOW. 
>> MANY 
>> WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. WELL 
WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND I DON'T 
THINK WE VOTED ON IT YOU KNOW 
WE I DON'T I DIDN'T I DIDN'T 
ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE A MOTION 
OR SECOND. I DIDN'T SAY 
ANYTHING OK. 
>> LET'S START ALL OVER WITH 
THIS MOTION NOW BECAUSE I 
DIDN'T I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE 
FIRST ONE SINCE IT WENT RIGHT 
INTO QUESTIONS. 
>> ALL RIGHT. 
>> MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE 
NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 FOR SECOND 
READING ON SEPTEMBER 17. 
CHANGING THE BUDGET WITH THE 
ADJUSTMENTS OF CONSENSUS THAT 
WE HAVE MADE TONIGHT. 
>> ALSO UTILIZING A $150,000 
OUT OF B SUSTAINABILITY FUN OR 
2 OFFICERS IN THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT AND THEN ALSO BEING 
ABLE TO FUND THE. 
>> EDC. 
>> FROM THAT FUND ALSO WHEN 
THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED BY 
EVERYONE. 
>> I 
>> THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO A 
BUDGET AMENDMENT AND COMES 
BACK TO RUN NOW WE'VE REMOVED 
AND I THINK IT WILL STAY OUT 
AND. 
>> WE NEED TO DO A BUDGET 
AMENDMENT AND 21. AND I THINK 
WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO 
MENTION THE 2 OFFICERS WHEN 
WE'RE DONE WITH THIS MOTION IS 
JUST HEY WE SAID WE WERE GOING 
TO REDUCE THEM AS THIS 
RECOGNITION THAT THERE ARE 
GOING TO BE VACANT SEASON. 
NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BY 
294,000. BUT WE'RE GOING WHAT 
WOULD WHAT SO WE'RE GOING TO 
BE REDUCED BY 100 44TH OUT 
144,000 INSTEAD. 
>> OK AND HOW ALL THAT MOTION 
BACK AND MOVE TO CONTINUE YOUR 
NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 PER SECOND 
READING. SEPTEMBER 17TH 2020. 
CHANGING THE BUDGET TO. 
>> THE ADJUSTED CONSENSUS THAT 
HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT. 
>> YOU SEE. 
>> NOW SHE SAID PRESIDENT JUST 
WOULD COME LATER NOT TO SAY ON 
THE MANSION WHERE THE MONEY'S 
COMING FROM WE POST THE 
1 MILLION TO SO WE'RE GOOD. 
>> AND I'M GOING TO SECOND 
THAT BECAUSE I'M READY MAKE AN 
AMENDMENT THAT. 
>> ALL RIGHT AGAIN MOTION ON 
THE FLOOR TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 
TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH 2020. 
COMMISSION MEETING FOR FINAL 
READING. MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT 
HAS GIVEN BY CONSENSUS THAT 
WAS MADE BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. 
KERRISON ANYTHING TO THAT VICE 
MAYOR. 
>> NO MA'AM. MISTER HARRISON. 
>> YEAH I NEED I WOULD LIKE TO 
MAKE AN AMENDMENT. THEY HAVE 
TIME AND MOTION TO ALLOW 
$150,000 TO GO BACK INTO 
THE BUDGET. IN REFERENCE TO 
THE PLEA THEY CAN BE. 
ALLOCATION. AND ALL THAT MONEY 
OUT OF INABILITY ON. 
>> MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO HIM 
AND TO AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD 
A $150,000 BACK INTO THE 
BUDGET AND. 
>> I DID USING THE 
SUSTAINABILITY THAT WAS MADE 
BY COMMISSIONER HARRISON DO I 
HEAR SECOND. IF YOU'RE SECOND 
I THAT MOTION FAILS. 
>> AND THE ONLY REASON I 
DIDN'T SECOND IS BECAUSE THE 
FINANCE DIRECTOR JUST STATED 
IT DID NOT NEED TO BE WITHIN 
THE MOTION. 
>> THE. 
>> AS HE WAS GOING TO READ. 
>> HE SAYS IT WILL FULLY 
STOCKED WITH A REFERENCE IT 
NEEDS THE IN THE MOTION. 
>> SIGNS SUSTAINABILITY FUND 
DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE 
MOTION THAT WAS LAST YEAR 
ADDING REVENUE AND SAME TIME 
AS YOU'RE READING THIS EXPENSE 
IS GONNA COME OUT OF THAT 
STAIN ABILITY BESTSELLING 
PLACE FOR IT TO COME FROM. 
>> THE WAY THE MOTION STANDS 
IS FINE. WE CAN ADDRESS IT AS 
WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS 
YEAR, OKAY. 
>> COMMISSIONER 
>> SAID. 
>> YEAH IT'S A EYE AND MAKE 
THE MOTION AGAIN IS A 30, 
THEY'LL KNOW. 
>> RIGHT THIS AGAIN. 
>> WELL SHE STATED OUT DID NOT 
NEED THAT AMENDMENT THAT IS 
THE FINANCE DIRECTOR STATED 
THAT WE DIDN'T NEED THAT 
AMENDMENT. 
>> THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND 
THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF 
OF POLICE IS SAYING THAT 
EVERYTHING IS FINE THE WAY 
THAT IT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING 
WITH THAT. 297 OR THE $150,000 
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO. IF 
THEY HAD A PROBLEM THEY WOULD 
DEFINITELY BE LETTING US KNOW 
AT THIS POINT. 
>> NOT WHAT I AT ALL I'D LIKE 
TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A MOTION 
TO DIRECT CITY IF I NEED TO 
PASS THE GAVEL I WILL YOU JUST 
I WAS MAKING A I GUESS I DON'T 
HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT MAKE 
IT A SEPARATE MOTION, YOU'RE 
RIGHT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T RIGHT 
THERE SAYS EFFECT IS MOTION. 
>> I LEARNED THE MOTION OR THE 
AMENDED MOTION GETS US TO 
WHERE WE NEED TO BE. 
>> OK SO SO WE'RE WHERE WE 
NEED THE ROAD IS PAVED RACING 
CLEAR THIS BATCH. ALL RIGHT SO 
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR 
AS STATED BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KARA 
SOME. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO 
SPEAK TO THE MOTION. 
>> ITS SECOND OH YEAH, I THAT 
CAN I HEAR WHAT IT IS EXACTLY. 
>> THE MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 31 
TO SEPTEMBER 17 ADJUSTING THE 
BUDGET BASED ON ALL THE 
CONSENSUS IS GIVEN. THAT WAS 
MADE BY VICE MAYOR SECONDED BY 
COMMISSIONER CAROUSEL. 
>> IS THAT CLEAR IN A 150,000 
HAS NOT BEEN A CONSENSUS OF 
THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 
WRECK TODAY KIM SAID NOTHING 
NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH THAT 
THEY OKAY. 
>> $298,000 JUST TO BE CLEAR. 
IT'S STILL GOING TO BE TAKEN 
OUT OF THE BUDGET OR THE 
POLICE DEPARTMENT AT WHAT I'M 
TRYING TO GET THAT. YES MA'AM. 
OKAY, EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY DID 
ON THE RECORD THAN A 150,000 
SHOULD GO BACK IN. 
>> WELL THE IT AND ADDING THAT 
BACK NOW WITH THE MOTION AND 
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A CONSENSUS 
ON 
YOU NEVER GET A CONSENSUS ON 
THAT ONE SO WE NEED TO PLAN 
>> GET YOU ON. 
>> CONSENSUS REACHED TO ADD 
THAT 150,000 THAT I THOUGHT 
THAT WAS AN EMOTION. NO THERE 
WAS NEVER A CONSENSUS, MAYBE A 
150,000. 
>> ALL RIGHT I GO BACK TO MAKE 
AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION 
THAT I ADD. AND THEN THAT A 
150,000 BE TAKEN FROM THE 
SUSTAINABILITY FIND AND TO BE 
UTILIZED FOR THE POLICE 
DEPARTMENT. 
>> I THINK AGAIN. I'LL SECOND 
THAT. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR 
TO AMEND THE MOTION. ADDING A 
$150,000 BACK INTO THE BUDGET 
AND USING IT FROM THE 
SUSTAINABILITY FUND. THAT WAS 
MADE BY VICE MAYOR SECONDED BY 
MYSELF ANYTHING TO THAT VICE 
MAYOR. 
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 
THE OTHER ASPECT OF THE EDC 
DOES NOT NEED TO APPROACHING 
AND IT ALSO. BY THE WAY WE ARE 
THANK YOU AND I'M GOOD. AND 
I'VE GOT NOTHING TO IT I 
THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING WHAT 
IS. PLAY YOU KNOW YES, OK 
I'LL. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO 
AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE ON THE 
AMENDMENT. YES, IT'S THINGS. 
THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT GUYS. 
COMMISSIONER HANKS AND 
TERRORISM. AND THAT MEANT THAT 
TESTIFIED TO HELP THEM. I HAD 
TO THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED. 
TAKE BOW. 
AND THAT ALSO PASSED 
5 TO 0. BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK 
WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WE NEED 
TO ALSO DO AND THAT IS THE 
FLOOR OF AN OLD RESOLUTIONS. 
>> AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A 
BREAK. AND WE'LL BE DONE WITH 
MOTION SO THE SEA. 
>> A PASS THE GAVEL. GO AHEAD 
MARY I MAKE A MOTION THAT AS 
SOON AS WE GET THIS SIGNED ON 
KATC AGREEMENT FROM ALL TO 
TEAMS UNITS APOLOGIES AND 
COUNTY. THE CITY MANAGER TO 
PUT IT OUT OF THE VERY NEXT 
AGENDA ITEM. AS AN ADDED ITEM. 
>> AND THERE'S MOTION ON THE 
FLOOR BY 
>> I HAVE TO CHANGE IT BEFORE 
YOU DO THAT YOU, BUT THAT'S 
WHAT I NEEDED TO ADD A BUDGET 
AMENDMENT TO FUND AND PACE AND 
YOU SEE. 
>> IS ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT 
WITH THANK YOU THERE'S A MAKE. 
MOTION ON THE FLOOR BUT AS 
MAYOR THAT WHEN B E T C 
AGREEMENT IS FINALIZED BY ALL 
ENTITIES THAT IT WILL BE THE 
NEXT AGENDA. IT FOR A BUDGET 
ADJUSTMENT. WE BUDGET 
ADJUSTMENT. TO PAY 
INSTALLMENT. THAT TIME WITH 
EVERYONE. THE MANAGER DOES 
THAT CLEAR. 
>> YES YOU LIKE WE WANT THIS 
TO ME. 
THIS THE OCCASION MY. WE'RE 
GOING TO SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
AFTER BEING NOTIFIED BY THE 
CITY'S. WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS 
OF OUR OWN. 
>> PROCESS. YEAH, THE NEXT UH 
>> ANYTHING TO THAT MOTION. 
>> WE IF GETTING THAT. 
>> ALL RIGHT AND THAT PASSES 
5, 0, 1, HERE IS THE GAVEL 
THAT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT NOW 
WE MOVE ON TO MORE OF AN A. 
>> IT'S A RESOLUTION. 
>> READ BY TITLE ONLY THANK 
YOU CITY COULD COULD YOU 
PLEASE READ THAT BUT I DON'T 
RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 DASH R 
DASH 20 A RESOLUTION OF THE FL 
APPROVING ASSESSMENT OLD 
SCHOOL YEAR 2020 DASH 2021. 
THE FLOOR BADDA AND SUMTER 
GARDENS ASSESSMENT AREAS 
ESTABLISHED PURSUANT ORDINANCE 
NUMBER 2025. CORRECT IN THAT 
ASSESSMENT RULES BE CERTIFIED 
TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY TAX 
COLLECTOR AND ESTABLISHING THE 
LEAN ASSOCIATED THEIR WEST 
PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX WRITING 
IN EFFECT. A MANAGER. 
>> YES WE HAVE THIS WAS FOR. 
SAYS THOSE DONE TO WASTEWATER 
IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS 
NEIGHBORHOOD. 
>> THANK YOU DOES ANYBODY HAVE 
ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER 
ON THIS ITEM. THERE YOU KNOW 
GO AHEAD TAKE MOTION PLEASE 
MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 
NUMBER 2020 R DASH 28 AS OF 
THE 2020 DASH 28. AS PRESENTED 
BY ADVICE AND THAT'S VICE 
MAYOR SECONDED BY ANYTHING TO 
THAT VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER 
MUCH. IT HAS TO GO AHEAD AND 
TAKE THE VOTE AND DON'T GET 
TOO EXCITED ABOUT EVEN JUST 
YET GOT A COUPLE THINGS WE 
STILL GOT TO DO BEFORE I CAN 
ADJOURN. AND THAT PASSED 5 TO 
CITY CLERK. 
>> DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE 
PUBLIC COMMENT KNOW 
>> SHE STATED THAT SHE WAS ON 
TO PULL HER SHE WAS LEAVING SO 
I WAS CALLING KANYE BERNIE BUT 
SHE HAD ALREADY ALERTED THE 
CLERK THAT SHE HAD TO LEAVE SO 
I JUST PUT IN HERE NOT 
AVAILABLE. BEFORE WE ADJOURN I 
HAVE ONE THING I NEED TO GET 
COMMISSION APPROVAL ON BEFORE 
I DO I RECEIVED THIS IN 
BETWEEN OUR 2 MEETINGS TODAY. 
THE MAYOR'S FEED THE HUNGRY 
WOULD LIKE ME TO SIGN A 
DOCUMENT. MAKING A DIFFERENCE 
IN HELPING THEM GET MONEY AND 
DONATION A FUNDRAISER. I IT'S 
JUST SIGNING IT THAT 
PARTICIPATE. THEY MAYORS OF 
THE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE 
AREA HAVE ALREADY SIGNED IT. I 
DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE 
SIGNING THE DOCUMENTS ARE 
GIVING MY SIGNATURE WITHOUT 
THE APPROVAL OF MY FELLOW 
COMMISSIONERS. SO I NEED TO 
GET A CONSENSUS THAT YES I CAN 
SIGN IT OR NO YOU DON'T WANT 
ME TO SIGN MAYORS FEE AND 
MAYORS FEED THE HUNGRY. IS IT 
TRUE, THERE'S FLORIDA OR 
MAYORS FEED THE HUNGRY. WE DID 
THE EXACTLY. 
>> THANK YOU FOR CLAIRE'S 
THANK MEMBER GOING TO YOUR 
>> CENSUS TO GO AHEAD AND SIGN 
THIS SO IT GIVE THE SIGNATURE 
FOR THIS FUNDRAISER FOR MAYORS 
FEED THE HUNGRY COMMISSIONER 
MARRIAGE. 
>> VICE MAYOR YES. THE 
COMMISSIONER HARRISON. AND 
TESTING ALL RIGHT IS ANYBODY 
ELSE HAVE ANY COMMISSION FOR 
THIS MEETING. ANY 
ADMINISTRATIVE. FANTASTIC IT 
IS NOW. 
>> 9.55. WE HAVE ADJOURNED, WE 
WILL ADJOURN THE COMMISSION 
MEETING AND WE'RE GOING TO 
TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK BEFORE 
WE COME BACK TO FINISH UP. 
THANK YOU GUYS. 
THEY GET RIGHT. 
>> IN THIS 
♪
>> AT THIS TIME IS NOW 
THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 3RD AND I 
DO CALL THIS FIRE RESCUE 
DISTRICT GOVERNING BODY 
MEETING TO ORDER IT IS NOW 
♪
>> 10 '07. 
>> THOSE THAT IN PRESIDENT ARE 
COMMISSIONER HANKS VICE MAYOR 
LUKE MYSELF MAYOR MCDOWELL 
COMMISSIONER EMERICH 
COMMISSIONER SIR YOU ON THE 
PHONE. 
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE 
HAVE CITY ATTORNEY CITY CLERK. 
ACTING CITY MANAGER CHIEF 
PARIS AND STAFF CITIZENS 
WELCOME EVERYBODY WE DID SAY 
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 
EARLIER DURING THE 
COMMISSION'S HEARINGS. SO WE 
WILL MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE 
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA PLEASE 
LET TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS 
PRESENTED. WELL I HAD TO TAKE 
BOLD. LET'S CHECK OUT SOME 
PLACE. AND THAT PASSED 5 TO 0 
AT THIS TIME DO WE HAVE ANY 
PUBLIC COMMENT. 
>> WE DO. 
>> MISTER COOLEY. MINE NOW. 
>> GREAT FEELING TO ALSO PULL 
OVER AT ST. YOUR SYSTEM AND 
INCREASED BY 19% IN 2018 AND 
ANOTHER 13% LAST YEAR. NOW ONE 
YEAR LATER BECOMES CHIEF 
THOUGHT IS WARNING OF ANOTHER 
9% MORE AT ME DON'T YOU 
REALIZE THIS COMMISSION HAS 
ALREADY RAISED MY FIRE RISK 
ASSESSMENTS. 32% IN 2 YEARS. 
WHY THIS FIRE RESCUE CHIEF 
DOES MOVE EXPECTED TO MAKE 
MORE AT THESE HIGH LEVELS OF 
THE INCREASES EVEN CONSIDER 
ANOTHER A 20% INCREASE. 
>> SO POLICE SAID SHE THOUGHT 
WAS HER INTO ONE EXPLAIN TO 
CITIZENS THIS URGENT NEED FOR 
THIS EDITION OF WHAT'S GOING 
TO MISS THE CITIZENS INCOMES 
AND WAGES HAVE BEEN REDUCED 
THIS YEAR. IF WE STILL HAVE A 
JOB WELL LOOKS TO BE JUST 
SIMPLY IRRESPONSIBLE WITH 
THEIR TAX DOLLARS. THERE'S 
CERTAINLY NO CHECKS AND 
BALANCES BY THIS COMMISSION 
40'S TIMES THE SPENDING HABITS 
AS FOR COMPARISON TOOLS TO 
SOCIAL SECURITY COLA AVERAGE 
INCOMES AND US A PLACE YOU'RE 
READING THIS PORT FIRE RESCUE 
RATES OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. 
SOCIAL SECURITY COLA IN 2 
YEARS WITH A 3.7%. WE DID CAN 
SUE IT 2 YEARS WITH A 6.7%. 
CPI INFLATION RATE IN 2 YEARS 
WITH 4%. I RESCUED 2 YEARS 
WITH 32% 5 TO 7 TIMES GREATER 
THAN THE NORMAL AVERAGES. AS A 
MATTER OF RECORD MY 2020 HAVE 
BEEN CUT A GOOD SHOT BY 6%. 
YES, SITTING ALL COMMISSION 
THAT IT SAYS SHOW REMORSE 
REPORTING FOR US TAXPAYERS 
MORE FINANCIAL SITUATIONS. 
TAXES COME FIRST BEFORE THE 
WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS OF 
OUR PERSONAL FINANCES. NO 
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE WEST 
VILLAGES WAS SEPARATE FROM THE 
AS IN LIFE THEY ARE SICK AND 
TIRED OF THE CITY'S 
GOVERNMENT'S LACK FISCAL 
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY'S 
CARELESS SPENDING RUNWAY 
TAXATION BUT WE NO AND CITY 
BENEFITS. SO ASK YOU YOU DO 
NOT APPROVE ANOTHER 9% FIRE 
RESCUE GREECE ON THE PREVIOUS 
2 YEARS 32%. DON'T YOU THINK 2 
OR 3% THIS YEAR SHOULD BE 
ENOUGH. THE STILL TO COME TO 
SORRY, BUT THIS YEAR YOU NEED 
TO TYPE YOUR BILL FREE IS 
NECESSARY, BUT IF YOU HAVE 
GOOD THAT'S JUST LIKE US 
CITIZENS ARE DOING IN THE CITY 
OF NORTH PORT RIGHT NOW. THIS 
ISN'T JUST DON'T HAVE THE 
EXTRA MONEY FOR MY PERCENT TAX 
HIKE THIS YEAR. IN CLOSING. 
>> THE CITY SHOULD BE NO 
DIFFERENT SPENDING PATTERNS OF 
SPENDING HABITS THAT U.S. 
CITIZENS WHO MAKE UP THE CITY 
AND PAID THE TAXES. 
>> RIGHT NOW CITIZENS ARE 
HAVING TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS 
LIVE LONG REDUCE THESE AND SO 
SHOULD THIS CITY. THE FIRE 
RESCUE PROPOSED INCREASE ARE 
NOT JUST PARTNERING UP DURING 
THE SUFFERING TO SPENDING 
FREEZES SHOULD BE THE ORDER OF 
THE DAY. I WOULD SAYS AND THE 
CHIEF TITUSVILLE THAT PLAN I'M 
SOMEBODY THAT WILL. THANK YOU 
MISTER REALLY. CITY MANAGER. 
>> 9%, CERTAIN MEASURE FOR 
FISCAL YEAR 2021 FOR FIRE 
RESCUE IS PROBATE 680,000. 6 
OH 660 THIS IS A DECREASE OF 
931,000 OVER $4 OVER THIS 
CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, MAYBE 
BUDGET DISTRICT DOESN'T A 5%. 
INCREASE. 
>> MAYBE 
>> SOMEBODY GET FROM STAFF GET 
WITH HIM AND SEE WHY HIS WENT 
UP ON THE 8.8 OR 9% THAT HE 
WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD 
HAVE CAUSED EXTRA INCREASE. 
>> FA CHIEF FOR MISTER 
DISTRICT. I HAVE SPENT 
EXTENSIVE TIME MISTER TO LEON. 
A GOOD HOUR WHENEVER IT IS 
THAT WAS IN 20 OF SHOWING HOW 
POWER WORKS CAN TELL YOU. IT 
WAS NOT THE MOST PLEASANT 
CONVERSATION HE WAS LIKE THAT 
MUCH IS I DID EVERYTHING I 
COULD AT THE IN THE 
COMPETITION LAST MONTH WITH 
PRIVATE SEXUAL SERVICE 
QUESTION FOR FRESH AND THE 
ANSWER THAT. YES TO ALL OF 
THOSE SO I MET HER MISSION. 
HIS FIRES LAST MONTH WENT UP 
BY 5% THE REASON HE SEES A 
DOLLAR INCREASE THAT IS A 
DIFFERENT PERSON THAN THAT AS 
TO ALL OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE IF 
YOU REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WANT 
IT. AND WE HAVE YOUR TO READ. 
2, 2, 8, IS BASED UPON. SO 
IT'S. NOW $5.50 IS GOING UP. 
BUT THE THE PREVIOUS RIGHTS 
$5.50 PREVIEW, WHICH IS 
$5,000. BUILDING ON THE HILL 
THE BUILDING VALUE GOES UP OR 
CHANGES THAT SO IT IS NOT IT'S 
OUTSIDE PERCENT. 
>> SO IT COULD BE BECAUSE THE 
BUILDING VALUE OF HIS HOME. 
ANY OUT PARCELS A SHOT OR 
SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND 
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT 
CLARIFICATION ALL SO WE WILL 
DO MY CITY MANAGER. OH HOW 
ABOUT WE READ THIS ORDINANCE I 
NEED A MOTION TO READ THE 
ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY THE 
SECOND. ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION 
OF THE FLORIDA HAVE CITY CLERK 
READ THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
DASH 32 BY TITLE ONLY. 
>> IT WAS MADE BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THERE 
HORSE I WAS SECOND. 
>> WHEN THE VOTE. NUMBERS 
>> OH THIS IS. 
>> THANK TO 0 GOOD CITY CLERK 
EGO I READ THAT NOW FINDS 
>> 2020 DASH 32 AND ORDINANCE 
OF THE FL ADOPTING A FIRE 
RESCUE DISTRICT BUDGET FOR THE 
FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 
ONE 2020 AND ENDING ON 
SEPTEMBER 3020 21. DESCRIBING 
THE TERMS CONDITIONS AND 
PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE 
ITEMS FOR FREE NATION AND 
THEIR PAYMENT PROVIDING FOR 
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS OR 
A APPROPRIATIONS RUNNING FOR 
SENATE BILL A T PROVIDE FOR 
WRITING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
CITY MANAGER. GO AHEAD PLEASE. 
YES. YOU 
>> I THINK I THINK WE'VE WE'VE 
COVERED LET'S QUESTIONS OF 
GOVERNMENT, I'M A COUPLE 
THINGS THAT SHE WANTED TO 
BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND 
WE'LL FIND A WAY TO WORK 
THROUGH IT. THE PERSONNEL CUTS 
THEY WERE PART OF BOTH THE 
INSIDE AND FIRE SIDE THAT'S 
THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 2 
POSITIONS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. 
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT ON 
THE GENERAL FUND SIDE WE HAVE 
TAKEN SAFE MONEY. WE PUT ALL 
THE DIFFERENT ONE AS A 
REVENUE. THE GENERAL FUND SIDE 
WHEN THAT GOES AWAY. THAT'S 
NOT RECURRING REVENUES SO SOME 
OF THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE 
MILLAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
WILL BE. IN FACT EVEN GREATER 
BECAUSE THAT THAT REVENUE 
MONEY WON'T BE THERE. SO I 
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 
THAT'S TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 
AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS THAT 
CHANGES YOU KNOW POSITION I 
THINK FOR THE FUTURE. I SAY 
HAVING A HARD PUSH FOR SEASON 
YEAR OR SOMETHING UNEXPECTED 
YOU KNOW WE HAVE. OVER TIME WE 
WILL FILL A POSITION IS IT'S A 
SAFE POSITION LEAVES DON'T 
REVENUE DOESN'T COME IN AND SO 
EVEN THOUGH WE'VE REDUCED 
EXPENDITURE FOR POSITION 
REVENUE THAT'S COMING YEARS SO 
WE'LL FILL THOSE POSITIONS WE 
WILL MAKE UP FOR THAT SAVINGS 
EITHER FROM OVER TIME OR IF WE 
END UP HAVING SHE'S IN OR 
SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN YOU 
COME BACK TO YOU FOR BUT YOU 
MAY NOT LATER IN THE YEAR, BUT 
SO CONFIDENTLY MY WORK. 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS STORY. 
>> NO LIGHT ON. AND I THINK 
ONE THING. 
>> DON'T KNOW WHY. NOW I SEE 
IT STARTED IT WAS STUCK AND 
THE BOAT AND TRAIN GO AHEAD 
COMMISSIONER, SOME. 
>> IT'S IT'S IN REFERENCE TO 
WHAT CHIEF JUST TALKED ABOUT 
HE SAYING THAT. 
THE CUTS WERE EQUIVALENT TO 
PHYSICIANS WRECK. 
>> THIS MAY CLARIFICATION 
APPROXIMATELY SOON ON THE 
$74,210 AND FIRST I LEAVE 
$75,000. SO YOU'RE JUST UNDER 
A $150,000. 
>> I WOULD BE GOOD LUCK TO 
YOU. 
>> ABOUT SALARY BENEFITS FOR 2 
STARTING POSITIONS. A 
PARAMEDIC LITTLE A LITTLE BIT. 
ONE. 
>> YOUR STANCE 74,000 WAS ON 
THE GENERAL ON SIDE. 
>> YES 74,210. 
>> YOU WONDER IN 10. AND THEN 
ON THE DISTRICT'S SIDE WITH 
HOW MUCH. 
>> WITH 75,000 EVENING. 
>> OKAY. 
>> AND. 
>> THAT IF YOU WEAR. 
>> THAT WAS IN CALCULATIONS 
THAT WERE. RIGHT FROM FINANCE 
ON VACANCIES. 
>> THINKING BUT YOU HAD 
ALREADY. I WHEN I NOW. EARLIER 
THEY TOLD ME IT WAS STRICTLY A 
MAP THAT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO 
WITH THE 
>> THEY WERE YEAH, THERE WERE 
SUGGESTIONS BEEN ON BOTH 
SIDES. INTERESTING. 
>> COMMISSIONER CARUSONE IF 
YOU LOOK AT PAGE 3 THE VERY 
LAST ITEM IS THE FIRE 
DISTRICT. AND IT SAYS VACANCY 
REDUCTION TO $80,200. 
>> A NEW ONE. YOU MEAN THE NEW 
ONE YOU TALKING ONE THAT WAS 
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 
SOMETHING THAT BACK UP AND THE 
FIRE DISTRICT ARE WE TALKING 
ABOUT. 
>> IT'S IN THE BUDGET 
ADJUSTMENTS 17TH THAT'S THAT 
ALL 3 PAGE. WELL. 5 PAGE 
DOCUMENT. THAT WE WERE TALKING 
ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE LAST 
BUDGET DISCUSSIONS OK, OKAY, 
IF YOU WANT TO PAY 3 MEN. 
>> ALL ON TO GAIN THE KIND OF 
PUT IT AWAY. 
>> IF SHE'S READY RIGHT. 
>> NOW 
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY CITY 
MANAGER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 
ABOUT A VACANCY REDUCTION. 
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TAKING 
AWAY POSITIONS THOUGH IS AN 
AVERAGE OF HOW LONG THE 
POSITION IS VACANT. WHETHER 
IT'S THIS EMPLOYEE RETIRED 
OCTOBER 2ND. THIS EMPLOYEE 
QUITS OCTOBER 30TH AND WE 
COULDN'T HIRE THOSE 2 OTHER 
PUT THOSE 2 EMPLOYEES TO 
REPLACE THEM UNTIL FEBRUARY 
1ST. IT'S THAT LENGTH OF TIME 
WHERE YOU KIND OF A KIT 
POSITION THAT YOU'RE NOT 
PAYING ANYBODY AND THAT'S WHAT 
THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT LIKE 
YOU'RE TAKING AWAY JUST GOT 
GOING. 
>> EVERYTHING ON PERCENT IS 
>> ONLY I DON'T WANT PEOPLE 
THINKING THAT WE ARE REMOVING 
A POSITION FOR FIRE EMS OR 
POLICE OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT 
BASED ON THEY CAN SEE RATES 
IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG 
THOSE POSITIONS HAVE REMAINED 
VACANT THAT EQUALS THOSE 
DOLLARS AS AN AVERAGE OVER 5 
YEARS I THINK YOU SAID. 
>> RIGHT, BUT IT'S LIKE WHAT 
WHEN I ASKED FOR THIS WHEN I 
ASKED FOR THESE NUMBERS. I WAS 
VERY EFFECTIVE IN LEAVING 
ALONE. 
THE DISTRICT. ONLY BECAUSE I 
KNEW THAT THAT WAS CALCULATED 
AND THEY'RE ASKED AND THEN 
THROUGH WHATEVER THAT COMPANY 
IS THAT DOES THAT FREAKY 
LITTLE COMPUTER THING. AND I 
KNEW THAT WAS ALREADY 
CALCULATED. I ONLY WANT TO 
KNOW ABOUT THE MAYOR SAYING 
THAT ONLY THE EMF WAS 
ACCOUNTED 
>> NOW I KNOW I'M MEMBER AND 
AT THE SAME WAY AS YOU'RE 
TALKING RIGHT NOW I DIDN'T 
THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 
TOUCHING. THE FIRE DISTRICT 
EITHER IN THAT. IF THEY CAN 
SEE RATE. THE VACANCY RATE TO 
ME IS JUST SOMETHING YOU DO. 
WHEN YOU'RE DESPERATE. I MEAN 
TO ME IT'S NOT A WAY TO DO IT 
IT IN A NORMAL YEAR. SO I 
DON'T LIE. PEOPLE THINK AND 
THIS IS A NORMAL WAY TO DO 
BUDGETS. 
>> HIT 4 YEARS YOU'VE DONE IT 
AND DESPERATE TIMES FOR YEARS 
THAT I NEVER IN THE BUDGET 
KNOW I HAVE DONE I ALWAYS GO 
TO THE HIGH SIDE NOT THE LOW 
SIDE AND SCRIMPED AND SPRAY. 
>> WELL. 
>> AND YOU ARE IN A DESPERATE 
SITUATION IN 2012 AND A 
DIFFERENT COMMISSION. BUT IN 
ON THOSE ARE MY BELIEFS. 
>> I DO NOT REMEMBER THE FIRE 
DISTRICT SUPPOSED TO BE PART 
OF THAT I CAN. 
>> SO I JUST WENT BACK TO LOOK 
AT THE NOTES THAT I TOOK THAT 
IN THESE ARE. CLIFF THEY'RE 
NOT VERBATE OWNS, BUT IT SAYS 
TO ADJUST AND ANALYZE EACH 
DEPARTMENT'S VACANCY RATE 
SALARY RATE DEBRIS. REDUCTIONS 
TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE IN 2021 
BUDGET. 
>> WE I DON'T EVER WE DID NOT 
EXPECT THE KIND IF YOU IF YOU 
MAY KNOW TALKED ABOUT IT FOR 
CITYWIDE FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S 
WHERE WE SAID ONLY FOR EMS AND 
UTILITY OR TO BE EXEMPTED OUT 
OF IT WAS INVESTING UTILITY 
FOR THIS FEE SCHEDULE. 
>> OF THE ONE PERCENT 
INCREASE. 
>> ONE BET MONEY. I. 
>> AND IF I MARRY WANT TO BE 
TAUGHT WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IT, 
I KNOW THERE'S MOTION THE AN 
-10 WAS THE DIRECTOR IS WORTH 
A LOOK AND AS THE GREAT SEASON 
AND PROVIDE SOMETHING. THE ONE 
THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 
THAT MEETING WAS SWEET. WE 
FIGURE OUR BUDGET 98% 
EXPANDING OF THAT 2% IS LEFT 
OVER A DOZEN CLUE. SALARIES AN 
EXPANDED THINGS LIKE THAT. 
THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THAT AS 
I SAID WHEN I FIRST CAME UP 
HERE. WE WORKED VERY 
DILIGENTLY TO MAKE MUCH WORK 
NOT ASKING FOR AN 11TH HOUR 
CHANGE I WANT TO ENSURE THAT 
EVERY EDUCATION UNDERSTANDS 
CHANGE WAS MADE WHEN SHE 
ACTUALLY IF WE HAVE TO COME 
BACK TO DO JUST GETTING YEARS 
WE WOULD HAVE DO THAT. 
FORTUNATELY TO GIVE US AN 
OUNCE BE ABLE TO DO THAT I 
THINK WE CAN MANAGE THROUGH I 
DON'T MIND TRYING TO DO THAT 
WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE 
DANCING WILL WORK WITH SO WITH 
FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY 
MANAGER AND EVERYBODY WILL 
MAKE SURE THAT. TRY TO FIND A 
WAY TO COME CROSS THE LINE. 
>> IF NOT FOR NOTHING AND I 
AGREE I THERE'S ANYONE WHO CAN 
PINCH A PENNY IF WELL US RIGHT 
AND THINK OH IN THE SAME JOKE 
>> YOU KNOW MY MY QUESTIONS 
ARE MORE GEARED TOWARD BE. 
>> I'M AN ISSUE I HAVE OF NOT 
HAVING OUR DIRECTION UNO. I 
WILL DEAL WITH THAT WITH THE 
CITY MANAGER 
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY 
OF MONEY THAT IS TO THE UN 
BALANCE ON THE GENERAL ON BY. 
>> AS FAR AS THE DISTRICT, A 
LITTLE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE 
75,000. 
I IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS 
ALREADY. THROUGH YOUR PROCESS. 
>> YES, THAT'S AS A RESULT OF 
THE IS THAT AS A RESULT THE 
DISCUSSION. THE LAST THING 
THAT LOOKING AT THAT THEY CAN 
SEIZE AND. AND NUMBERS ACTUAL. 
>> OKAY, I JUST DON'T KNOW 
WHERE THAT MI 5,000 ON THE 
DISTRICT AND IS REFLECTIVE. 
>> THIS IS REFLECTED ON PAGE 
3. 
>> WERE THIS THE FIRE SIGN. 
>> I YEAH THAT'S THE FIRE 
STARTED WHEN WE SPOKE EARLIER. 
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE GENERAL 
FUND. YES THAT THAT 74,000 
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO 
WITH THE DISTRICT. 
>> WHERE IS THIS EDITION I 
HOUSING. 
>> LOOMING ON THE LOWER PART 
OF THAT PAGE OF THE SECOND 
LINE FROM THE BOTTOM. 
>> YOU SEE THE FIRE DISTRICT 
IN THE VACANCY REDUCTION OF 
80,009 CLOSE LIKE A. 
>> OKAY BUT I DON'T BELIEVE 
THAT WAS THE DIRECTION YET 
AGAIN. WELL ALL THIS. OF ALL 
THE MINUTE. IS IN THE MEETING 
AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE 
>> IT'S 80,200 WRECK. 
>> IT MAKE THOSE REDUCTIONS 
FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT AS THEY 
HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. 
>> AND WE UNDERSTOOD THE 
DIRECTION THE COMMISSION WAS 
TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENTS. 
>> CALCULATE HOW MUCH COULD BE 
REDUCED IN ANTICIPATION OF 
VACANCIES. 
>> RIGHT I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT 
>> WHEN I I'M THE ONE WHO MADE 
THE MOTION. 
KNOW THAT I AND IT'S TRICK 
WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED ONLY BIG 
EYES AND THE AND THE RATE WAS 
ALREADY CALCULATED IN THEIR 
NUMBER BECAUSE THAT PART OF 
THAT OFF WHERE. 
>> FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES, WE 
CALCULATE OR GENDER FUNDED 
ONLY 97% WE'RE TALKING LETTING 
THERE'S A 98. SO THEY. SAYING 
IS THAT YOU WERE ALREADY SLOW 
OR IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
>> THAT THE DISTRICTS DON'T 
TOSS THE MILLAGE RATE DO THAT. 
SO WHY WHY HER MOTION INCLUDE 
A REDUCTION TO THE DISTRICT'S 
ONE. OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO 
LOWER THE MILLAGE I MEAN 
THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK SHE 
WHAT HER INTENT WAS TO DO 
ANYTHING TO THE DISTRAUGHT 
ABOUT I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH 
BUT NOTICE THAT I HAD STAFF 
PAY SINCE THIS WEEK'S PART TO 
DO WITH HOW SOME POINT THEY 
CAN TO MAKE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS 
AS THE WORKERS THEMSELVES TO 
BE USED IN THAT APARTMENT. 
>> OF WHICH WILL BE REFLECTED 
IN THE 21 BUDGET DOESN'T 
MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT 
DISTRICT IN THAT 
>> OKAY SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE 
RIGHT. TITUS HAS SAID STEP WE 
MAY BE GETTING A BUDGET YOU 
JUST MINUTE LATER IN THE YEAR 
AND SO BE IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN 
HOUR MAYBE ARTICULATED AS WELL 
AS THAT NEEDED TO BE LESSON 
LEARNED BUT GRANTED WE ARE 
WORN. 
>> OF THE WORLD THIS ISN'T 
AFFECTING THEY. 
>> INCREASE THAT YOU'RE 
REQUESTING OF THE 5% SO IT'S 
KIND OF LIKE A MOOT POINT 
RIGHT. I DON'T SEE HOW IS IT 
HOW IS THIS. AFFECTING OVERALL 
THE 5% INCREASE NOT REDUCE IT 
TO LIKE UP. 4.8 2% INCREASE IN 
ASSESSMENTS CRACKED. WHAT WAS 
THAT SOMETHING THAT SOME 
ACTION COMMISSION TAKES IT OK 
SO SO EVEN THOUGH THE VACANCY 
RATE WAS REDUCED $80,000. WE 
CAN REVERSE THAT 
AND IT'S WE CAN JUST REVERSED 
THAT. 
>> YOU KEEP EASY. 
>> SO THE PROBLEM. 
>> THE REVENUES OF DAYS, SO 
YOU STILL HAVE THE REVENUE 
AVAILABLE RACK TO EVEN THOUGH 
WE MAY HAVE AGGRESSIVE OR 
AGGRESSIVE ABOUT THE EXTENT 
WRIST. AS LONG AS THE RIVERS 
THERE YOU'LL BE FREED UP IN 
AND DO. 
>> I'D RATHER CREATE UP RIGHT 
NOW THAT THAT'S WHERE BOTH 
WITH IT. 
>> SO IT SAYS HERE IF YOU GO 
OFF AND THE NEXT INTO THAT. 
COMMISSIONER SOME BOOK 
INCREASE INCREASE RETURNED TO 
FIND BALANCE ABOUT. $302,000. 
SO IF WE. TAKE AWAY THIS THEY 
CAN SEE REDUCTION NUMBER. WHAT 
DOES IT DO TO INCREASE THE 
FUND BALANCE DOES IT MAKE THAT 
MAKE IT 384,000 OR DOES IT 
MAKE IT 220,000. 
>> AND YOU AND I. 
>> SO IT'S A WIN-WIN ACROSS 
THE BOARD IT SOUNDS TO RIGHT. 
♪
YOU'RE YOU'RE MAINTAINING THE 
HIGHER 
♪
FUND BALANCE. BECAUSE THE 
BOTTOM LINE IS THE MONEY 
YOU'RE BRINGING IN WITH THIS 
5% INCREASE THE REVENUE. 
COMING IN. THAT'S NOT 
CHANGING. ALL YOU DO IS JUST 
CHANGE IN HOW MUCH YOU'RE 
USING AND FUND BALANCE TO MAKE 
UP FOR UNDERSTANDS MY 
INTENTION AND BRING IT FORWARD 
TO YOU WANT TO SET YOU MANAGE 
THROUGH WE HAD IF YOU DIDN'T 
MAKE CHANGE TONIGHT. 
>> IF WE WERE SURE WOULD HAVE 
TO COME BACK TO WORK BECAUSE 
WHAT I FROM OUNCES WILL BE 
OKAY, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT 
PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I 
MADE YOU TOO THAT THERE'S AN 
IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND SIDE 
AS WELL. THAT'S ALL I'M NOT 
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE 
WHETHER WE GET THERE. IT WAS A 
DISCUSSION OF HOW WE GET THERE 
THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY TAKE 
TONIGHT DIDN'T MAKE IT IT 
WOULD BE SOMETHING LATER. 
CORRECT. YOU SO WE CAN REVERSE 
THAT ACTION. 
>> OCEAN OR SOMETHING LIKE 
THAT DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 
ANY QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE I 
HAVE TO. ONE IS EASY PZ. IF 
YOU GO TO SECTION 2 POINT O 
ONE IN THE ORDINANCE 2020 32. 
IT SAYS THIS ORDINANCE SHALL 
BE KNOWN AS THE FIRE RESCUE 
DISTRICT BUDGET ORDINANCE FOR 
THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FOR 
FISCAL YEAR 1920. WE NEED TO 
CHANGE. I WOULD 
WE CAN GET THAT WILL BACK TO 
THE HIT ME. ALL RIGHT SO THAT 
WAS EASY PC. SO. 
I KNOW CHIEF YOU AND I TALKED 
ABOUT THIS. YOU'RE REQUESTING 
A 5% INCREASE. I AM LOOKING AT 
YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL OF 1745 
FOR 6 FIREFIGHTER RECRUITS 
BECAUSE LEAST A TOTAL OF 
$314,500. 
>> COULD WE REDUCED THAT TO 3. 
LOWER THAT ASSESSMENT RIGHT TO 
I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER THAT 
MAGIC NUMBER WOULD BE. WELL 
NEW. 
>> OH SO I COULD BUT I CAN 
TELL YOU IN AS THE DISCUSSION 
WAS BEFORE. WE'LL DO AS 
COMMISSIONERS. THE IMPACT OF 
THAT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT 
AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. SO. 
THOSE POSITIONS THERE LIKELY 
WILL NOT BE STILL HAS ONE IS 
IN THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW THEY 
THEY WOULD LIKELY IT WOULD 
LIKELY NOT BE FILLED. IT'S 
THERE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE 
THEY'RE RECRUIT POSITIONS 
LIKELY NOT BE FILLED. MY IS IN 
THE BUDGET AND WHEN HE WILL 
RETURN FUND DOUBTS THAT'S WHEN 
THINGS THAT HAS HELPED US WHEN 
YOU LOOK AT OUR 10 YEAR 
FORECAST WHICH DIDN'T TAKE HIS 
PUT TOGETHER FOR US, IT 
ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE POSITIONS 
FOR AT LEAST 2 MORE YEARS AND 
I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND 
LOOK SO PLEASE DON'T HOLD ME 
TO THAT BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 2 
MORE YEARS FOLLOWING THIS 
YEAR. 
>> AND THEN WHEN THE NEXT FIRE 
STATIONS OPEN. WE'VE BUILT OUR 
REVENUE HOUR FROM NOW IT'S UP 
TO THE POINT WHERE WE'LL BE 
ABLE TO ABSORB THE COST IS 5 
YEARS. IT WOULD GET FEDERAL 
GRANTS WHAT IT WOULD DO 
ANYTHING ELSE GOT A FEDERAL 
GRANT. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO A 
REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER YEARS 
IN THE NATIONAL REALLY GOOD 
SHAPE IF WE DID NOT GET A 
GRANT. THERE WOULD NOT BE A 
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OR SPIKE 
WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS 
THAT WE'VE THESE MEN SERVING 
NOW, VERY FORTUNATELY WE DID 
GET A FEDERAL GRANT WHICH 
HELPED US ABSORB THAT OVER 3 
YEARS WHAT KIND OF. THIS IS 
PART OF THAT 10 YEAR PLAN A 
PLANNING AHEAD SO WHEN 
SOMEBODY COMPLAINT SAYS WE'RE 
NOT SPENDING MONEY WISELY THE 
REALITY IS WE'RE TRYING TO 
FORECAST THE FUTURE AND THAT 
WASN'T DONE. REALLY WELL IN 
THE PAST. WE MADE SOME JUST IN 
TIME BUDGING DECISIONS OVER A 
NUMBER OF YEARS PUT IN 
POSITION WHERE WE HAD TO DO 
SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN SAID 
A COUPLE YEARS THAT HAVE COME 
IN FRONT OF YOU IT WAS A 
REALLY COME FROM THE FIRST 
YOUR SECOND YEAR WASN'T A 
WHOLE LOT BETTER PRETTY GOOD 
THIS YEAR WE IMPROVE OUR 
FORECAST SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT 
JUST FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IN A 
PROJECTED FUTURE. WE DON'T 
COULD HAPPEN TO THE ECONOMY. 
THIS COMING YEAR WE DON'T WANT 
THINGS CHANGE AND THAT'S GOING 
TO IMPACT I WOULD SAY WE'RE A 
POSITION IN A MUCH BETTER NOW 
THAN WE WERE 2 YEARS AGO. I'M 
PROUD OF I THINK STAFF HAS 
WORKED REALLY HARD STAFF HAS 
WORKED REALLY HARD TO PUT IN 
THAT POSITION EXTREMELY 
SUPPORTIVE THAN HIM MORE VERY 
BLESSED TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT. 
SOME OF THAT ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTION. YOU CAN TAKE THAT 
MONEY OUT IT'S PUT THAT MONEY 
IN HALF. WHEN YOU DO THAT AND 
SQUEEZE ONE HERE GETS BIGGER 
OUT HERE. SO HOW DO WE MAKE 
THAT MONEY UP IN THE FUTURE. 
IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION 
TONIGHT ABOUT THINGS ARE DONE 
GENERAL FUND WE'RE TAKING 
MONEY OUT RIGHT NOW. I THINK 
NEXT YEAR COULD BE WORSE SOME 
OF THE STUFF WE'VE DONE WITH 
RECURRING REVENUES THAT WE'VE 
TAKEN OUT THAT WE REALIZE THE 
EXPONENTIAL IMPACT THAT I'M 
NOT SCARED ABOUT YOUR 22, I'M 
SCARED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 20 
TO PUT OUT THE SUN. SO I'M 
TRYING TO LAY OUT THAT PLAN WE 
STAND TECH HAS VERY VERY 
HOPEFULLY I'M DOING IN 
ADOPTING A PLAN GIVING US THE 
ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT LOOK 
AT THAT AND YOUR FORECAST. THE 
AUSSIE NOT MAULING ON HOW THAT 
WORKS SO. SHE CAN UNDERSTAND 
THE IMPACT IT'S SO EASY ANSWER 
YOUR QUESTION IS YES WE CAN DO 
THAT. IT'S WHAT THE 
CONSEQUENCES WOULD I WOULD ASK 
YOU TO CONSIDER BEFORE YOU 
MAKE THAT C. 
>> SO WHAT WHAT I'M HEARING IS 
THAT YOU BUDGETED 6 POSITIONS. 
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THEY 
PROBABLY WON'T GET FILLED. AND 
THAT THIS MONEY THIS $314,000 
WILL GO INTO A FUND BALANCE TO 
HELP IN THE FUTURE. 
>> IT'S ACTUALLY HELPFUL KEPT 
THE CREW COST OF POSITIONS ITS 
PARTIAL COST AND WHO WE DON'T 
KNOW WHETHER WHEN HE DOES NOT 
HAVE ANY MEANING OUR SHOW COST 
C 3.14 BECAUSE OF THE THINGS 
ON BOTH SIDES AND IT'S IT'S 
IT'S A PARTIAL. SO DOES IT 
WOULDN'T EAST THAT WOULD BE 6 
FIREFIGHTERS TIMELY BENEFITS 
AND EVERYTHING. 
>> IT'S A PARTIAL CROSS I 
DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE EMS AND I 
THINK THE AND SAYS THAT IT'S 
BEING FUNDED 100% BY FIRE 
DISTRICT SO. 
>> THAT'S 6 POSITIONS AT 
$314,000 FOR 6 RECRUIT 
POSITIONS. 
>> SO IT HAS 5 STORIES ABOUT 
50 JUST A FEW $1000 FOR RAIN 
BUT IF YOU HAVE SALARY 
BENEFITS I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT 
NOW STARTS OUT 45,000 HAVE 
BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT AND 
PROBABLY IS TO MATE SO IT'S 
NOT JUST A FULL IT'S CLOSE 
YOU'RE CORRECT. AND YES TO 
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THOSE 
ARE IN THAT IF WE DON'T USE 
THOSE THE SOUTH AND WE'VE BEEN 
TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT PLEASE 
UNDERSTAND WE TALK ABOUT THAT 
EVERY BUDGET SET UP AND USE 
THE MONEY GOES BACK SO WE NOT 
DONE THAT AS A VERY 
TRANSPARENT OF ALSO BE DONE 
ABOUT IT SO THAT REASON WHERE 
HOW DOES IT. IT'S TIME WE DID 
BECAUSE OF WHAT ABOUT POLICIES 
OR THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU'LL 
SEE NEXT YEAR. I THINK WE 
TALKED ABOUT THE ABILITY FOR 
WHEN THEY DO THE FUND BALANCE 
REPORT NEXT YEAR IS TO BE ABLE 
TO TAKE MONEY AND BUT THAT HAS 
THAT FUTURE MONEY FOR FOR 
THOSE POSITIONS JUST AS THE 
NEXT DAY SHE COMES ON. SO WE 
CAN DO THAT THAT LINE AND 
ACTUALLY GO AWAY BECAUSE THEN 
IT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE FUND 
BALANCE REPORT YOU'LL SEE WHAT 
A 20 PERSON IS YOU SEE UP TO 
THE 10% RESERVE THAN THERE 
WOULD BE A NOT IN THERE IT'S A 
4. THIS IS FOR THE NEXT FIRE 
STATION. SO THAT. THAT 
PROJECTION GETS BETTER SET 
FIRE STATION GETS PUSHED 
FURTHER OUT. 
♪
THAT FIRE STATION STAYS 
♪
WORDS PROJECTED. WE'RE ON MARK 
TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT AND NOT 
HAVE TO BE A HUGE INCREASE. 
HAPPENS. I JUST. 
>> I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. 
ALLOCATING FOR POSITION. 
WITHOUT KNOWING FOR SURE THAT 
IS EVER GOING TO BE FILLED AND 
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE YOUR 
VACANCY RATE. SO SO IT BECOMES 
THIS DOUBLE EDGED SWORD 
BECAUSE IT AFFECTION VACANCY 
RATE TOO. 
>> AND. 
>> JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT 
KIND PHILOSOPHY ON IT. AND I 
KNOW IT'S A IT'S A 
PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE AND I 
GET IT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT 
WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THE 
FUTURE. BUT IT WOULD BE TO ME 
MUCH MORE EVEN MORE 
TRANSPARENT TO BUDGET THIS 
MONEY IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN 
CALLING IT 6 POSITIONS WITH A 
LOGO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SON 
BACK THEY GET SO. 
>> IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS YOU 
TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE HOW 
GREAT THE CATHOLICS OF TIMES 
IT'S THE SAME THING, 
CHRISTOPHER CUTBACKS FOR 
PEOPLE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 
ABILITY. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 
ABILITY TO TOUCH THAT WHERE 
DIDN'T KNOW WHICH WAY BEFORE 
AND LIESEL HELPED US TRYING TO 
FIGURE OUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT 
WAYS IF YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST 
TIME CAME. WE TRY TO DO IT A 
DIFFERENT WAY AND ARTIFICIALLY 
INFLATED. OR 8 SUMMIT WOULD BE 
REQUIRED FOR FROM BOUNCE. WE 
DON'T WANT TO DO THAT SO WE 
TRY TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY 
EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT TO KEEP 
THAT MONEY IN THERE WAS TO TO 
CONTINUE THOSE 6 MISSIONS AS 
GROUP IS A MAKE SURE THAT WE 
TALKED ABOUT SO WE'RE 
TRANSPARENT I ANTICIPATE THAT 
THAT CAN GO AWAY. AFTER GOING 
INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR 
BECAUSE. MISTER SKIPPER HAS 
EXPLAINED TO ME THAT HE CAN 
ACCOUNT FOR THAT SEPARATELY 
WOULD BE THROUGH I BELIEVE 
SOMEBODY MAY NEED TO PREP AND 
SOLACE IN THE THAT I THINK IT 
HAS TO BE SEVERAL DIFFERENT 
LEVELS OF COMEY SIGNED BY 
COMMISSION RESERVE PROPER 
TERMINOLOGY. BUT WE CAN BRING 
THAT BACK TO YOU WHEN THE TIME 
IS APPROPRIATE. SO THAT IT 
WOULD NOT SHOW ANY LONGER A 
TEACHER IN THAT IT'S A LOT OF 
THAT MONEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE 
WITHOUT AN SHOWN AS A PART OF 
HER FROM MOUNT OR BUT IT WOULD 
BE SEPARATE FROM THE 20. THE 
UP TO 10%. 
>> IF YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS 
FOR A WHILE NOW. AND I'M 
LOOKING AT YOUR FUND BALANCE 
REPORT. YOU HAVE YOUR 20%. 
THEN YOU ONLY HAVE 300,000. 
>> AND THE. 
>> TEXAS THAT IS OUR STATE 
BILLS STABILIZATION FUND. SO 
WHERE'S THE IT'S SO THE PLAN 
IS THERE SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT 
REPORT RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S A 
LITTLE BIT MISLEADING. 
>> AND I WAS TRYING TO THROUGH 
SHE THE EXPO IF YOU LOOK AT 
LAST FROM ABOUT PORT YOU SEE 
THERE WAS MORE. THERE WAS MORE 
IN THERE AS WE WORK THROUGH 
THE PROCESS. WHEN WE DID THE 
AGREEMENT WITH WEST VILLAGES. 
WE WEREN'T SURE 2 YEARS AGO I 
WAS GOING NOW SO WE BUDGETED. 
A FIRE TRUCK. THE AREA. FOR 
THAT AREA WE DID AS A PROJECT. 
WELL AS TIME ON THAT PROJECT 
ROLLED INTO THE NEXT FISCAL 
YEAR. STILL HAPPEN WHEN WE DO 
THE OPPOSED TO AN EXTENSION 
AGREEMENT WITH WEST VILLAGES 
IT WAS DETERMINED AND WE 
BUDGET BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE 
MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY PERCENT 
AND THEN GET REIMBURSED. WELL 
AS WORK OUTPOST INDICATION 
AGREEMENT. HAD THE DEVELOPER 
PAYING FOR THE PROJECT ON THE 
BOOKS ALREADY IT SHOWS A 
LIABILITY AGAINST WORKOUT SO 
THERE'S MORE MONEY IN THERE 
THAN WHAT THE TRUTH OUT AND 
STUFF YOU SEE THE MEN TO USE 
OF SHOULD BE ALLIANCE AS 
AMENDED USE THE FUND BALANCE. 
YOU SEE THAT. 
>> AMENDED RESERVE USES YES, 
MA'AM ONE 0.3 MILLION DOLLARS. 
YES MA'AM THAT'S THE PLAN. 
IT'S IT'S FUTURE FIREFIGHTER 
SHOULD THERE'S WITH THAT. WELL 
BE AND WANT TRUCK. IT PROBABLY 
BE NOW. WAS ACTUALLY IN SYSTEM 
BECAUSE THAT YOU HAVE THERE. 
TRY. WILL BE I DON'T FEEL 
COMFORTABLE. 
>> TREATING EMPLOYEES AS A CAP 
EX ACCOUNT. AND I KNOW THIS IS 
A PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE IN. 
>> AND I'M VERY FEARFUL THAT 
IT'S START IT WILL START 
SETTING A PRECEDENT AND THAT 
WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING FOR 
EMPLOYEES AND INCREASING 
EMPLOYEES WITH THE INTENTION 
OF LATER ON DOING WHATEVER IN 
ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT. AND IT 
JUST BECOMES FUZZY MATH AND I 
I MAY OR NOT AND I APPRECIATE 
THOSE OFF THE DIFFERENCE BUT 
WHAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU IS WE 
HAVE A FIRE STATION THAT 
TYPICALLY IS 18 TO 21 PEOPLE 
ON THE STATION SIZE AND 
LOCATION. 
>> THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY TO 
BRING ON THAT MANY PEOPLE WHEN 
YOU'RE SORT THAT THROUGH OUR 
CURRENT FIRST WE CAN LEGAL 
MAXIMUM TENSION IN. 
>> I GET I GET I JUST SO TO DO 
I'M TRYING TO DO THAT WITH 
THAT RULES THAT HAPPENS. 
THERE'S A BETTER WAY I LOOKS 
FIGURE OUT HOW DO I WANT TO 
MAKE SURE THAT. RESPONSIBLE 
ENOUGH SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE 
THIS HUGE PIECE OF AS WE GET 
THERE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE 
BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD 
PLACE I JUST WISH THERE WAS 
ANOTHER MAGIC WAY TO DO IT. 
>> DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOUR WORK 
6 REPORTS. THAT'S WHAT THIS 
BUDGET. 
>> WELL IF YOU WATCHED BUDGET 
THAT DOES IT. AS FOR US WE'VE 
BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT 
THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND AND 
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUND 
BALANCE REPORT THINK AFTER UP 
REFLECT THANK YOU. 
>> THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 
ANY QUESTIONS. 
>> FAY FROM OCEAN ALL MOVED TO 
CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
DASH 3 TO 4 SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 17TH 2020. MAKING 
THE ADJUSTMENT. REMOVING THE 
VACANCY REDUCTION FROM THE 
FIRE DISTRICT. AND AND OF 
COURSE CHANGING THIS GROUP 
DINNERS AIR 1920 2020. 
>> HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR 
TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 32 TO SECOND READING 
THE 22ND REMOVING THE I LOST 
NUMBER I'M SORRY $80,200. AS 
REFLECTED IN THE VACANCY 
REDUCTION IN CORRECTING THE 
ERROR IN SECTION 2 POINT O ONE 
THAT WAS MADE BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. 
HARRISON ANYTHING TO THAT VICE 
MAYOR. 
>> NOW JUST TO REITERATE THE 
GOAL THAT WE WERE AFTER FOR 
THAT AVERAGE $200,000 HOUSE 
LOOKING GREAT. SO THANK YOU. 
>> ANYTHING TO COMMISSIONER 
SOME. 
>> NOW I. I JUST WANT TO ME 
JUST GO ON MY TYRANT OF. THIS 
IS PART OF A 10 YEAR PLAN. 
AND. THANK YOU 
>> YOU KNOW, I KNOW STILL 
REMAINS WANT EVERYBODY HIRED, 
BUT YOU KNOW I. 
>> THIS IS THIS IS A PART OF A 
PLAN THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED. 
MANY MANY YEARS AGO AL. IT AND 
YOU KNOW HALF COMMISSION 
REFUSED TO 
IMPLEMENT IT. AND AND. YOU 
KNOW THE WAY I LOOK AT IS THIS 
COMMISSION. FINALLY FOR THE 
DECISION TO MAKE PROGRESS ON 
THAT AND WERE 8 YEARS BEHIND 
WHICH IS WHY THERE WAS SUCH A 
HUGE INCREASE LAST YEAR AND 
WHY WE'RE IN THE POSITION WE 
ARE AND TO GO BACKWARD. IT'S 
JUST CRAZY TO ME. SO I FULLY 
SUPPORT THIS THERE'S A PLAN IN 
PLACE 
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY. 
>> HE PUT IN ONE OF THOSE HANG 
OF BUTTONS ON THIS MISSION 
THOUGH THEY JUST RIGHT DOWN 
INTO THE PROGRAM. 
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD 
AND TAKE THE VOTE. VOTED 10 
MINUTES AGO. AND THAT PAST 4 
TO ONE WITH MCDOWELL 
DISSENTING. AND ITS CHIEF AND 
IF. IT'S BURBIDGE 
PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE. I I 
JUST CAN'T AGREE TO 6 RECRUITS 
KNOWING WE'RE NOT FEELING IT 
NOW. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN MAKE 
I WASN'T IT. THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 
HOPEFULLY BY THEN MAYBE 
THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN DO 
THIS. 
>> SO THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL 
RIGHT MOVING ON TO THE NEXT 
ITEM 
>> THE ACTUAL BUDGET. 2020 
DASH 30 WHICH ALL THIS 
COMBINED FEWER THE ASSESSMENT 
RIGHT, I'M SORRY. 
>> 27 AND THAT'S A RESOLUTION 
I 2028 R DASH 27 CITY CLERK 
COULD YOU PLEASE READ BY 
RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 DASH R 
DASH 27 A RESOLUTION OF THE 
CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA 
ADOPTION CERTIFYING AND 
CONFIRMING. 
>> NOT APPLE OR ASSESSMENT 
RATES AND ADOPTING THIS AND 
CERTIFYING THE NON AD VALOREM 
ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE NORTH 
OR FIRE RESCUE DISTRICT FOR 
FISCAL YEAR 2020 DASH 2021, 
WRITING FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING 
FOR COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR 
SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN 
EFFECTIVE DATE. 
>> ALREADY CITY MANAGER AND 
BEST MEET AGAIN THIS CHANGES 
TO ONE. 
>> RESPONSE RATE A EVIE YOU 
FROM THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 
OF 85.6 EXTENT. GREECE IS UP 
TO 89.9 4. THERE ARE 2 
PROTECTION FROM ALSO 
STRUCTURE. 
>> RATE OR EVEN YOU THIS 
CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 5 
>> DOLLARS THAT WILL GO UP TO 
5.7 8. 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
>> A MOVE TO APPROVE 
RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 ON THE 
DASH OR 27 AS PRESENTED 
>> AND THE FLOOR TO APPROVE 
RESOLUTION 2020 OR 27. HAS 
PRESENTED THAT WAS MADE VICE 
MAYOR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER 
MITTEN INTO THAT VICE MAYOR 
COMMISSIONER MUCH A. 
COMMISSIONER SOME WAY TO A NEW 
PLACE. 
>> BUT MARK 
>> AND DIDN'T SHOW ANYBODY 
ELSE VOTED NO AND THAT PAST 4 
TO ONE WITH MYSELF DISSENTING 
FOR THE SAME AS THE OTHER 
ORDINANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 
CHIEF YOU GUYS ARE DOING A 
GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. SO NOW 
WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC 
COMMENT. I HAVE CITY PARK. 
>> I COMMISSION 
COMMUNICATIONS. 
>> EDMOND THINGS ALREADY 1049 
FIRE DISTRICT IS DROPPED. 
IT'S. 
>> THAT WANTS ROAD AND 
DRAINAGE THE IMAGE. 
>> ALL RIGHT SAID 10 40 NIGHT 
CAN I DO CALL THIS ROAD AND 
DRAINAGE DISTRICT MEETING TO 
ORDER. IT IS SEPTEMBER 3RD. 
THOSE PRESENT ARE COMMISSIONER 
HANKS VICE MAYOR LUKE MYSELF 
MAYOR MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER. 
URGED COMMISSIONERS ARE YOU 
WITH US. I LO YOU HAVE THE 
ACTING CITY MANAGER WE HAVE 
OUR CITY ATTORNEYS CITY CLERK. 
>> SHE'S GARRISON HELLO 
>> AT THIS TIME WE UH WE 
ALREADY DID THE PLEDGE OF 
ALLEGIANCE OR WE'RE GOING TO 
MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE 
AGENDA. SEC MOTION OF THE 
BORDER BY COMMISSIONER TO 
APPROVE THE AGENDA SECONDED BY 
COMMISSIONER EMERICH JUST GO 
AHEAD AND TAKE BOAT. 
>> I'M SURE THERE ARE SO MUCH 
FOR SPEED VOTING FOR. 
COMMISSIONER NOT YOU MA'AM. 
>> HER 54 ARE YOU THOSE 
>> DUBOIS ALL THOSE IN THAT 
UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE 
AGENDA CITY ANY PUBLIC 
COMMENT. VICE MAYOR AND THE 
AND IT HAS A NEW MOTION TO 
READ ORDINANCE 33. WHOLE THING 
THAT WAS MOVED BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER 
FRENCH GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE 
VOTE THE VOTE TO SEE IF YOURS 
WORKS THIS TIME. YES, IT'S 
FROZEN AND THAT PASSED FOR 
THIS YEAR, I'M JUST HERE TO 
READ BY TITLE ONLY BUT CITY 
CLERK. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
YESTERDAY, 3 AND ORDINANCE OF 
THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA 
ADOPTING A BURDEN DRAINAGE 
DISTRICT BUDGET FISCAL YEAR 
BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE 2020 AND 
ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH 2021 
DESCRIBING THE TERMS 
CONDITIONS AND PROVISIONS 
RESPECTED ITEMS OF 
APPROPRIATION AND THEIR 
PAYMENT. 
>> RIGHT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL 
APPROPRIATIONS AND RIPPED THE 
NATION'S RIGHT SEVERABILITY 
PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX AND 
PROVIDING AN AFFECTED DATE. 
>> CITY MANAGER IS WITH 
PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL 
YEAR 2021. ROAD DRAINAGE IS 
19 MILLION 980 THOUSAND 880 
DOLLARS. THIS REPRESENTS NO 
INCREASE TO THE DISTRICT 
ASSESSMENT REVIEW OF THE YEARS 
BUT REVENUE. STEPS HERE TO 
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 
FOR STAFF ON BUDGET. 
>> GREAT PROMOTION OF GO 
AHEAD. 
>> 2 NEW ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
DASH 33 PER SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 17TH ON I 20 I. 
MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO 
CONTINUE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 
DASH 33 TO SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 2ND. THAT WAS MADE 
BY VICE MAYOR SECONDED BY 
COMMISSIONER EMERGE IN THE 
FUTURE 
>> NO 
>> SEPTEMBER 17TH, I'M SO I 
DIDN'T WANT GOODNESS HAS MADE 
VICE MAYOR SECONDED BY 
COMMISSIONER EMERGE ANYTHING 
TO THAT VICE MAYOR NO MA'AM 
COMMISSIONER ANYBODY ELSE WANT 
TO WEIGH IN. 
>> I AM GOING TO WEIGH IN ON 
THIS I CAN NOT APPROVE THIS 
BUDGET. I COULD NOT APPROVE 
AND HOW SMALL. WE SHOULD BE 
ENCOURAGING PUBLIC SECTOR JOB 
PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS, NOT 
PUBLIC SECTOR. THESE ARE JOBS 
THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE 
PRIVATE SECTOR. WE ARE TAKING 
THOSE JOBS AWAY FROM THE 
PRIVATE SECTOR. I AM VERY 
CONCERNED THAT THERE WILL BE 
MORE PERSONNEL MORE EQUIPMENT 
MORE TOOLS. 
>> THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED 
TO BE ABLE TO FILL THIS 
IN-HOUSE MAULING IN THIS 
COMING YEAR. COMING FISCAL 
YEAR. AND IN THE FUTURE. IT IS 
A HUGE CONCERN OF MINE AND FOR 
THOSE REASONS I'M NOT GOING TO 
BE VOTING FOR THIS. WANT TO 
WEIGH IN. YEAH 
>> IT WILL COST DETERMINED 
THAT THIS WAS A LESSON ON THE 
MATTER ON I THAT THAT WAS PART 
OF OUR BACKUP ORIGINALLY. IT 
WAS. 
>> THE SEC STAFF CAN TELL IT 
SAYS THAT'S WHAT THAT YOU'VE 
GOT TO HOUSE. 
>> AND I STATED REASONS I JUST 
SAID THANK YOU FOR QUESTION 
WAS. THAT'S RIGHT, 
COMMISSIONER HANKS MAY HAVE I 
SAW MY MY THING IS BACKED UP 
BY THE WAY COMMISSIONER, I'M 
RICH. THINK HE'S UP WHAT I 
STICK WITH ME WE'RE ALMOST 
DIED WERE ALMOST JUST. 
>> LET'S LET'S DO THIS AGAIN. 
COMMISSION VICE MAYOR YES 
COMMISSIONER HOW MUCH. 
COMMISSIONER YEAH, I THINK MY 
THING HE SAID 
>> AND I SAY NO THIS PAST 4 TO 
ONE WITH MCDOWELL DISSENTING 
FOR RECENT STATED. ALL RIGHT 
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON 
TO RESOLUTION 2020 OR DASH 25 
CITY CLERK PLEASE READ BY 
TITLE ONLY. 
>> RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 DASH 
R DASH 25 A RESOLUTION OF THE 
CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA 
ADOPTING CERTIFYING AND 
INFORMING THEM ON AT 
ASSESSMENT RATES CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT RATES 
AND ADOPTING AN CERTIFYING THE 
NON AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLE 
FOR THE NORTH PORT ROAD AND 
DRAINAGE DISTRICT FOR FISCAL 
YEAR 2020 DASH 2021. PROVIDING 
FOR FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR 
COMPLEX PROVIDING FOR 
SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN 
AFFECTED DATE. 
>> THANK YOU. CITY CLERK CITY 
MANAGER 
>> STAFF IS PROPOSING THIS 
BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR TO 
HAVE THE AS THIS CURRENT 
FISCAL YEAR THAT TRANSLATES TO 
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES $3.77 
FOR PARCEL. THIS CHARGE OF 
$17.70 FOR WROTE A GOOD 
LOOKING AT IT. ENHANCE ROAD 
SERVICE OF $40.74 FOR ROAD 
QUIT LOOKING AT. I READ YOUR 
AGE. DRAINAGE ONE OF $30.18 OR 
DRAINAGE UNIT WHICH IS OCCUR 
BASED. SECONDARY DRAINAGE 
VARIOUS PRESERVE BOTH TIMES IT 
VERY GOOD. THIS IS ALSO 
PATIENT FOR SURE DRAINAGE IT'S 
3 WHICH IS $50.8. THE DRAINAGE 
TRAINING AND AS FAR AS THE NOT 
EVERYONE RATES ARE OF THIS 
RATE IS $4 OR $0.38 PER PARCEL 
RAY IS A $41.60 OR SO AND 
STAFF ISRAEL HERE TO ANSWER 
THE QUESTION. 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 
FOR STAFF AND THE ASSESSMENT. 
IN 10 MOTION. 
>> CREW OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 
2020 DASH R DASH 20 I MOTION 
ON THE FLOOR BY VICE MAYOR TO 
APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 OR BUY 
AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANKS 
ANYTHING TO THAT VICE AND 
COMMISSIONER HANKS GO AHEAD 
DUBOIS VOTE VICE MAYOR, YES 
COMMISSIONER HANKS. 
>> COMMISSIONER KARA SOME. 
MISSION AVERAGE YES, MYSELF, 
YES, THAT PASSED 5 TO 0. ANY 
PUBLIC COMMENT CITY CLERK. I 
HOPE COMMON JOB, VICE MAYOR, 
NO MA'AM. COMMUNICATIONS FROM 
COMMISSION. AND FOR MAD MEN. 
HEARING NONE IT IS NOW 1057 
AND ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT 
MEETING IS ADJOURNED DON'T 
GOING WHERE WE'VE GOT ONE 
MORE. 
>> YES, WORKING ON. 
>> WELL 
>> THAT'S WHAT LOVE YOU KNOW 
ALL IT IS. IT IS 1057 AND I DO 
CALL THE SOLID WASTE DISTRICT 
MEETING TO ORDER. SEPTEMBER 
3RD 2020. THOSE PRESENT ARE 
COMMISSIONER EMERICH TOUCH 
MYSELF MAYOR MCDOWELL VICE 
MAYOR LUKE COMMISSIONER HANKS 
COMMISSIONER SIR. COMMISSIONER 
CAROUSEL. OH THANK YOU. WE 
ALSO HAVE THE ACTING CITY 
MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY CITY 
CLERK. SHE'S STILL HERE, THANK 
YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE IS 
HERE. WE DID SAY THE PLEDGE OF 
ALLEGIANCE EARLIER. SO AT THIS 
TIME I NEED A MOTION TO 
APPROVE THE AGENDA AS 
PRESENTED THAT THE MOTION ON 
THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER 
HANKS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS 
PRESENTED IN THAT WAS SECONDED 
BY COMMISSIONER MUCH GO AHEAD 
AND GIVE VOICE VOTE 
COMMISSIONER HANKS 
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER, 
SOME. VICE MAYOR YES, MYSELF 
YES, THANK YOU VERY CITY CLERK 
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. 
SO NICE MAN PUBLIC COMMENT. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT THIS 
TIME WE WILL GO AHEAD AND I 
HAVE A MOTION FOR READING BY 
TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 32 SO MOVED. WE DOES 
THAT THE 2034 THANK YOU FOR 
CATCH SOME OF IT. AND WE'LL DO 
A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. 
COMMISSIONER MUCH YES, MISSION 
OR SO. COMMISSIONER HANKS YES 
I ALSO BE YES. SO THAT HAS 5 
TO 0 CITY PLEASE READ THE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 34 
BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 
2020 DASH 34 AND ORDINANCE OF 
THE CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA 
ADOPTING A SOLID WASTE 
DISTRICT BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL 
YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE 
2020 AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 
30TH 2021. 
>> DESCRIBING THE TERMS 
CONDITIONS AND PROVISIONS WITH 
RESPECT TO THE ITEMS OF 
APPROPRIATION AND THEIR 
PAYMENT PROVIDING FOR 
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS OR 
A PREPARATIONS FOR 
SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR 
COMPLEX PROVIDING AN AFFECTED 
DATE. 
>> CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN PUT 
UP THERE WAS A BUDGET OR A 
SOLID WASTE DISTRICT. 2021 IS 
10 MILLION 117 DOLLARS. TO ME 
171 $70. THIS REPRESENTS AN 
INCREASE OF 328,000 I'M $73 
OVER THE AMENDED BUDGET FOR 
THIS FISCAL YEAR 2020 1920. 
THIS IS GREAT FOR FISCAL YEAR 
2020 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 
TOTALED $45 RESIDENT. SO 
ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 
FOR BUDGET. THEY'RE SOLID 
WASTE. 
>> I MOVE TO CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 34 
PER SECOND READING ON 
SEPTEMBER 17TH 20 TIMES. 
>> FROM THE FLOOR CONTINUE 
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 DASH 34 
TO SEPTEMBER 17 COMMISSION 
THAT WAS MADE BY VICE MAYOR 
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MUCH 
ANYTHING TO THAT VICE MAYOR OR 
YOU HAD TO WAIT SO LONG. 
>> THAT COMMISSIONER MUCH 
ANYTHING TO THAT 
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY. QUESTION 
OKAY WE'RE VICE MAYOR YES 
COMMISSIONER MUCH, THANKS 
COMMISSIONERS. AND I ALSO THAT 
YES THAT PASSED 5 TO MOVING ON 
TO THE ORDINANCE I'M SORRY THE 
RESOLUTION. 2020. 2020 OR DASH 
20 OR I NEED TO HAVE THAT READ 
BY TITLE ONLY CITY. 
>> IN 20 DASH R DASH 20 FOR A 
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY I WORK 
HARD TO ADOPT IN CERTIFYING 
CONFIRMING THE NON AD VALOREM 
ASSESSMENT RATES AND OPTING 
ENCIRCLING THE NOT HAVE 
LEARNED ASSESSMENT TOOL THE 
PORT SOLID WASTE DISTRICT FOR 
FISCAL YEAR 2020 DASH 2021. I 
THINK THE FINDINGS PROVIDING 
COMPLEX RIGHT AND SEVERABILITY 
AND PROVIDING AN AFFECTED ME 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CITY 
MANAGER. 
>> AGAIN THIS POSING A I NEVER 
RESISTANT RATE OR THE SOLID 
WASTE DISTRICT. WE'RE TURNING 
$45 FOR EACH RESIDENT REVIEW, 
FISCAL YEAR 
>> VERY MUCH ANYBODY HAVE ANY 
QUESTIONS. MENTION THE MOTION 
TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 
2020 OR 20 OR AS PRESENTED. 
SHOULD HAVE A POINT TO 
PRESENTATION OF THE 2020 MORE 
AS PRESENTED AND THAT WAS MADE 
BY VICE MAYOR SECOND BY 
COMMISSIONER HANKS ANYTHING TO 
THAT VICE COMMISSIONER HANKS 
WE HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE. WE 
COMMISSIONER HANKS. HE SAID 
YES. THE MISSION OF TERRORISM. 
MICHAUD 
>> AND I ALSO HAVE A GUESS AT 
PAST 5 TO 0. ALL RIGHT THE 
COUNTY AND CITY PARK ICE WHERE 
NO MAN SHOULD BE THE NATION. 
HAITIANS KNOW IT IS NOW 11 '02 
AND I DO HAVE SIDEWAYS MEETING 
THANK YOUS. 
