嗨！我是Jarryl
Hi, everyone I'm Jarryl
今天我們要來聊聊
today, we're talking about
留學生跟交換生哪一個比較好？
regular student and exchange student which one is better?
很榮幸可以邀請到這位嘉賓
I'm very honored to invite the special guest
讓我們歡迎Bryan
let's welcome Bryan
我們居然講了中文
Omg, we're talking in Mandarin.
因為我今天邀請到了馬來西亞的Bryan
Because I've invited Bryan from Malaysia
介紹自己一下吧
Introduce yourself
大家好，我是Bryan
Hi, everyone. I'm Bryan
我已經在德國讀了一年半
I've studied in Germany for one  and half year
我的主修是資工
My major is computer science
照理來說應該剩兩年，因為總共三年半
It's supposed to be 2 years left, because it's 3.5 year totally
對
Yes
可是看我的考試能不能過
But it depends on if I could pass the exam or not
我是交換(學生)，來了快一年了
I'm an exchange student. I've been here for almost 1 year
然後我也快回去了
I'm gonna head back soon
我主修企管
My major is business
我們待會要來玩的遊戲是
we're gonna play a game about
Q&A game
我們今天要來比較...
We're gonna compare...
到底是留學生比較好，還是交換生比較好？
the regular and exchange program which one is better
第一題，請問
Question num 1
What's your purpose to be in Germany
數到三要回答
Count on 3
經驗(體驗)、拓展國際觀
experience, broaden the global vision
什麼？什麼？
what?
你剛說經驗？什麼經驗？為什麼？（對）
What do you mean by the experience? (Yes)
因為如果你在亞洲讀書的話
Because if you study in Asia or...
跟你在西方讀書的經驗會差很多
study in west, the experience will be different a lot
比如說，食物方面
for example, the food
在德國...你應該知道
In Germany... you knew it
找不太到亞洲食物
We hardly can find Asian food
然後也就真的沒有很好吃
to be honest, the food isn't fit for me in Germany
很喜歡是他們這邊的交通很方便
I really like their convenient traffic system
馬來西亞不方便嗎？
Isn't Malaysia convenient?
馬來西亞就沒那麼方便
No, it's not very convenient in Malaysia
就我們火車有時候他只是到一段路而已
The train isn't comprehensive in Malaysia
你要去更遠的話，就沒有了
You can't arrive any places by train
我說的是『拓展國際觀』
my turn, it's "broaden my global vision"
因為我再來德國之前，我去了一次印度
Before I came to Germany, I've been to India.
我去了兩個月
for 2 months
當國際志工
to be an international volunteer
因為那次的經驗，讓我更想要再出國看看
The volunteer experience motived me to go abroad again
那時候是我第一次出國，覺得超挫折
That was  my first time to go abroad, and I felt very stressful
天啊！我學了10幾年的英文
Omg, I've learnt English for more than 10 years
到那邊，我大概聽不懂一半以上吧！
I couldn't understand about 50% of their English
我覺得很痛苦
It seemed like a torture
但再來一次德國後
but when I came to Germany
恩～信心大增
My confidience rocked up
至少跟國際的交換生相處，還可以
At least I can get along with other international students
然後可以交到各國的朋友
and I can make friends from various countries
英文進步了！
Your English is improving
真的！終於
ya, it's about the time
有交過哪幾國朋友呢？
How many countries friends do I make?
美國
The US
韓國很多嘛～
Korea
馬來西亞
Malaysia
印度
India
保加利亞
Bulgaria
德國
Germany
巴西
Brazil
墨西哥
Mexico
荷蘭
Netherland
芬蘭
Finland
超多！超多朋友
There're also from Poland, Italy, Spain and Morocco
你就覺得，生活在台灣真的
You'll think that living in Taiwan is too
是太小了
small
看到很多不一樣的事情跟衝擊
I experienced various cultural shocks
也會有不一樣的看法
They also have different ideas and perspective
第二題
Question num 2
在這邊唸書壓力程度1-10給幾分
How much pressure do you have for studying in Germany
10分最高分
The max is 10
8, 5
我會不會太低
Is my score too low?
你好低喔！
Your score is too low
那你先說為什麼
Then you should explain it first
當交換生啊～好輕鬆阿
Just come to be exchange students, it's so easy
沒有！我待會會解釋為什麼
No, I'm gonna explain it later
你先說為什麼你8分
You should explain why you gave 8 for it
第一，因為我唸書全部都是用德語
First, it's because I study in German
德國他們的數學很不一樣
Their math is different with us
就比如說我們的小數點
for example, the decimal point
我們會說10.1
we use 10.1
他們是10,1
they us 10,1
我在計算，哎～奇怪
When I calculated, it was weird
為什麼我的號碼跟老師的號碼差一千倍
Why there was a 1,000 times difference between my answer and professor's answer
在這邊巴伐利亞州他們有
In Bavaria, they have their
方言
dialect
巴伐利亞州很出名，他們的方言很難
It's well known for its difficult dialect
是喔？
really?
就他們的區(州)最難嘛？
Is it the most difficult in Germany?
對
Yes
你去問隨便一個德國人
You can ask any Germans
連北方的德國人，如果他們來到巴伐利亞州
Even if the north German, if they come to Bavaria
他們也聽不懂這邊的方言
They can't understand the dialect in Bavaria, either
難怪我德文學那麼差
That's the reason why I can't study German well
自已找一個理由說
Just an excuse
你可以講“因為我在巴伐利亞州，所以我德語很差”
You can say "because you're in Bavaria, your German isn't good"
對啊！阿～平常也用不到啊ＸＤ
Ya, and also  I don't often talk in German
用不到自己學的德文
I can't use the German which I learnt
而且再加上考試吧！
talking about the exam
你們不是一學期大部分一次考試
Don't you have only one exam in a semester?
對！一學期都只會考一次考試
Yes, we only have one exam
你不及格三次
If you fail the exam three time,
你就不能在那個州讀那一科（系）
you can't study the same major in the same state
比如說
for example
我現在讀書，不及格數學三次
If I fail math three time
就我考三次，三次都不及格
that means I take the same exam for three time, and all of them are failed
我以後不能在巴伐利亞州讀資工系
I can't study computer science in Bavaria anymore
我一定要轉科，不然我一定要離開這個州
I've gotta change my major or leave from this state
但是你可以跨別的系
but you can change your major
我可以去別的系，可是
ya, but
如果我去別的系，我的分數(學過的科目)不能帶
if I change my major, I've gotta spend one more time
就沒意思了！
that's too meaningless
這樣我就等於重讀了
and I need to study college again
我給五分
I gave 5
我在臺灣念研究所
I study master in Taiwan
然後我來大學部交換
but I exchange here in bachelor
我其實不需要學分，因為我在台灣已經修完了
Actually I don't need credits, because I already finished my classes in Taiwan
所以你是來玩的
so you came here for enjoying
沒有！我就說我的目的是拓展國際觀
No! I've told you that my purpose is "broaden my global vision"
所以，我不需要學分的情況下
So, in the condition that I don't need any credits
我上課就很沒有壓力
I don't have too much pressure to study here
就真的是去學，學多少算多少
I just try my best to learn it
可是我覺得學德文很有壓力
But I do think learning German is stressful
德文真的好難喔
German is so hard to learn
德文的確是很難
exactly
平常我真的用不到啊
I don't have the change to use it
我真的沒什麼德國朋友
I don't have any German friends
所以我就只能用英文跟其他交換生聊天
So I only talk in English to chat with my international friends
而且你學的科目全部都是英文
and your lectures are all in English
以後(履歷)比較好看一點，我會德文
Learning German is good for your resume
跟我之前英文差不多吧！
But my German level is like my previous English level
講不出來
I can't talk in German
就我大概看得懂一點點
I just can read a little bit
一點點德文
a little German
很棒！
Super
第三題
Question num 3
目前的德文程度是多少
What's your German level now?
可以講髒話嗎ＸＤ
Can I say any bad words XD
我要講一下那個程度，A1,A2,B1,B2,C1,C2
Talking about the German level
C2是母語人士的等級
C2 is like native speaker's level
C1就已經跟母語差不多了，我覺得
I think C1 is almost like native speaker
可是我是C1的最底
But I'm the bottom of C1
你們要來德國念書，程度要多少？
If you wanna study in Germany, which level will you be?
德國他們有一個考試叫做"Testdaf"
There's an exam called Testdaf in German
四個項目，聽說讀寫
There're four aspect, listening, speaking, reading and writing
每個項目最高可以拿到5分
the max is 5 for every item
所以總共會有20分
so total is 20
所以這有點像TOEFL，你要申請國外學校
It's just like TOEFL for applying foreign colleges
英文轉成德文版
in German version
大部分的大學要求至少要16分
The most colleges will require at lest 16
每項要4分的意思
In every item, you've gotta 4
對！每個要四分
Yes
它的程度是從B2-C1+
Its level is from B2 to C1+
你在馬來西亞學了多久德文
How long have you learnt German in Malaysia?
我在馬來西亞學了兩年
I've learnt for 2 years in Malaysia
我去的學校是專門給德語的
My institute is for German
他們是專門準備我們來德國讀書的
It's only for students who wanna study in Germany
有一個考試"Cambridge A level"
There's test"Cambridge A level"
A level = advaced level
A level 就像是高考
A level is like the college entrance examination
如果你考英國的A level的話
If you take the Cambridge A level,
你可以申請很多個國家(大學)
you can apply for a bunch of colleges from various countries
你可以去英文，來德國
You can study in the UK, Germany
馬來西亞
or Malaysia
新加坡
Singapore
那個考試是很多國家都會接受的（對）
That exam is accepted by a lot of countries (Yes)
換我了
My turn
我的德文程度就是...
My German level is...
A2.2
A2下，第二階段
the second phase of A2
A2的程度大概就是“早安啊”
A2 level is just like saying" good morning"
能溝通！能溝通！
It's enough to communicate
可是通常要考試，通常會直接考B1
If people wanna take German certification, they will take the B1 directly
在德國工作，至少要B2嗎？
What's the German level should I have if I wanna work in Germany?
我覺得應該是看公司
I think it depends on the company
有些公司你有B1他都接受
Some companies they accept B1
Hang in there
第四題
Question num 4
在這一年去過哪幾個國家旅遊？
How many countries have you traveled in last year?
我10個沒有包含德國耶！
I forgot to count in Germany
所以11個
so it's total 11 countries
我都在家裡讀書
I usually study at home
我的課現在大部分都是8am-3pm
My lectures are almost from 8am to 3pm
有時候會到5pm
sometime it'll finish by 5pm
因為我的科目都是德語
Because my subjects are in German
然後我還不熟，不習慣
I'm not used to it now.
因為有很多詞，剛才說的數學
Because there're lots of... just like the math I just mentioned
還有一些專業的字吧！
and a bunch of professional words
專業的字都不習慣，所以就要多讀一點
I'm not used to it, I've gotta study harder
我呢，就是開拓我的視野之外
In my case, including broaden my horizon
還可以邊玩唷！
I also can travel everywhere.
難聽的話就是來玩
It's just for traveling abroad
拓展國際觀
broaden my global vision
我講講我去了哪些國家
Let's talk about which countries I've traveled.
英國，法國，荷比盧
the UK, France, Netherland, Belgium and Luxembourg
捷克，波蘭，斯洛文尼亞，克羅地亞
Czech Republic, Poland, Slovenia, Croatia
義大利，德國
Italy and Germany
超多國家吧！
It's a lot, right?
其實我沒有花很多錢
Actually I didn't spend much money on it
立馬進入第五題
Let's move on to question num 5
我們這一年總共花了多少錢
How much do you spend in last year?
10000 Euros, 14000 Euros
我們是換成台幣的價格
Let's exchange to NTD
所以他是36萬台幣
He's spent 10,000 Euros
我是50萬台幣
I've spent 14,000 Euros
其實我預算50萬，但是我還沒有花完
Actually my budget is 500,000NTD, but I don't spend it up yet
我還有2000多歐
I still have 2,000 Euros
我覺得在這邊生活沒有想像中的那麼貴
I think it's not very expensive to live in Germnay
我十個月，假如花50萬
In ten months, if I spent 14,000Euros
一個月5萬
the average is 1400 per month
5萬包含1萬住宿
1,400 Euros includes the accommodation about 280 Euros
保險超貴
The health insurance is so expensive
保險很貴
excatly
保險就4,000元台幣(每個月)
The health insurance is 110 Euros per month
因為我保公保
because my health insurance is AOK
出去玩的錢
and I travel around Europe
電話費，雜七雜八
the telephone fee and so on.
可是我還沒花完！
but I didn't spend it up
我很省拉！
I'm very economical
那你勒？36萬你做了哪些事情
How about you? what did you do with 10,000 Euros?
跟你一樣嚕！
Just like you
扣掉出去玩
except traveling fee
我覺得在這邊吃飯，自己煮的話算很便宜
I think the food here is inexpensive if you cook by yourself.
自己煮的話，真的蠻便宜的
exactly
就如果你煮給你自己吃的話
If you cook for yourself
如果你買菜，買飯
and buy vegetables,rice
再加肉
meat
如果你不介意每天吃一樣的東西
and you don't mind to eat the same food
你可以吃很久
you can save lots of money
可是你要自己煮
But you have to cook by yourself
很麻煩！
It's so bothersome
我很懶得煮，所以我好懷念台灣
I'm lazy to cook, so I miss Taiwan so much
我好想回台灣吃飯喔！
I wanna go back to Taiwan to eat something
出去吃就很貴
It's so expensive to eat outside
一碗炒飯六或七歐
A fried rice is 6 or 7 Euros
第六題
Question num 6
未來會不會想留在德國工作？
Would you want to work in Germany in the future?
Yes, No
我會想在德國工作，因為
I'd like to work in Germany, because
我覺得你在德國工作的話
I think if I work in Germany
他們做工(工作)的環境不一樣
I can experience the different working environment
德國的薪水比較高
The salary is higher in Germany
可是你不覺得
but don't you think
一個人身處在異鄉
a person living abroad
然後跟一堆外國人一起工作
and working with foreigners
你不會覺得孤單嘛？
don't you feel lonely
很辛苦！
It's not easy
雖然你德文很好，可以跟他們溝通
Even although your German is good, and you can communicate with them
有時候還是會有一些文化差異
but there're exciting some cultural difference
因為我很喜歡看動漫
I'd love to watch animation
德國人不是很喜歡看動漫
but German doesn't like that much
就沒話題聊
We don't have the same interest to chat
你就會很尷尬，坐在那邊
You'll feel embarrassed and sit there
換我
my turn
因為，第一個可能是語言吧！
I think the first reason is " language"
我不太想講德文
I can't speak German well
你去大公司的話，你就可以講英文了啊！
If you are in large company, you can speak in English
對，但是
Ya, but
你知道我的英文也沒有到這麼的好
As you know, my English isn't that kind good
可以用英文工作
to work in English
還要再努力一下子
I've gotta studying hard for a while
我蠻想去英國的
I'd like to work in the UK
我說工作，找得到工作的話
if I can get a job there
我會想去英國或是美國
I'd like to work in the UK or the US
是時候去英國了！再見
It's about to go the UK, bye
就我學了德文與英文
Between German and English
英文讓我比較想學
I'd love to learn English more
可能是因為學比較久了！
Probably, I've learnt English longer than German
還是比較國際化
or it's more international?
或是我覺得我比較常用到
yap, or I think I talk in English more
再加上食物吧！
the second reason is"food"
因為要自己煮，我覺得我不能適應
Because I have to cook by myself, I cant get used to it
很不喜歡自己煮飯
I don't like cooking
你有時候煮完，吃完飯可能就一小時半過去了
It takes 1 and half hour to cook and eating
然後你還要洗碗
then you should do the dishes
對！還要整理它
ya! and also clean it
在台灣我可能半小時或20分鐘就可以解決了
In Taiwan, I only need 20-30 mins to tackle it
我就可以好好享受自己的時間
after that I can enjoy my private time
你覺得德國人如何？
What's your impression about German?
我覺得他們會比較冷漠一點
I think they're a little cold
可是如果你跟他們
but if you're close to them
比較靠近一點的話，就會比較容易
it's more easier to...
交通(溝通)
traffic( communicate) with them
我覺得他們很公事公辦，然後私事就是私事
I think they separate working and friends clearly
上次我朋友他有團隊報告
My friend got a group presentation
團隊報告結束後
After the  presentation
他們那時候報告時準備很密集，很常見面
they used to prepare intensively and often meet each other
事後就比較不常聯絡了！
but after that, they won't keep in touch
然後甚至你在路上遇到就只是打個招呼
even you cross into each other, you'll just say hi
然後就～哎結束了
that's all
覺得他們上課就是上課
I think they think that's just like a work
那你現在有幾個德國朋友
How many German friends do you have?
只用一隻手數得完
I can count it by one hand
真的假的！
really?
你來一年半了耶！
But you've been here for 1 and half year
我認識我的同學
I knew my classmates
可是我跟他們不會很靠近（不熟）
but I'm not close to them
假如再選一次，你會選擇交換還是留學呢？
If you have a chance to choose, will you choose to be a regular or exchange student?
an exchange student
你選個屁啊！
What!!
為什麼你選擇交換啊！
Why do you choose to be an exchange student?
你不是想在這邊工作嘛？你當然要在這邊唸書啊！
Don't you wanna get a job here? You're supposed to study here.
因為在這邊念書啊～所以就想在這工作
Because I study here, I wanna get a job here.
如果我只是來交換的話
If I were an exchange student,
我可能會像你不想在這邊(工作)
I probably wouldn't wanted get a job here, just like you
因為我們也才一年
Because I only have one year to be here
那你喜歡嗎（留學）？到目前為止
Do you like to study in Germany so far?
還好
Not bad
還受得了
I can handle it
有沒有想家了？
Do you miss home?
有！很想家
Sure, I miss home so much
對啊！我來了九個月
Ya, I've been here for 9 months
然後就覺得很想回台灣
and I just wanna head back to Taiwan
不管是想家
No matter it's homesick or
還是想台灣的食物
missing Taiwanese food
肯定是食物
It must be Taiwanese food
都很想
Both of them
雖然在這邊可以認識到很多不一樣的人
I can meet lots of people here
覺得很酷！
It's awesome
就是每天都要用英文跟朋友講話
because I've got to talk with my friends in English every day.
就覺得我的英文真的是一直在進步呢～
I think my English is improving continuously
而且來德國也方便啊～
Germany is also very convenient
你可以去很多地方旅遊
You can travel a lot of places
而且我們在的地方就在歐洲中間
we're in the center of Europe
慕尼黑差不多在歐洲最中間
Munich is almost the center of Europe
不管是去東邊，南邊還是西邊都很方便
no matter you're going to east, south or west, it's very convenient
所以機票都不會太貴
the flight ticket is inexpensive
交換最好的是
The best part of exchange program
很多人來這邊交換拿學分
there're lots of students getting credits from it
但是拿學分之外
including that
你排課的時候你就不會想要把它全部排滿
You won't arrange your lectures too tight
大部分都會想說排的禮拜四五沒課
Most of students wanna be off on Thursday and Friday
這樣就有四天假期，足夠去一個城市(國家)旅遊
by doing that, you'll have 4 days off to travel around the Europe
但如果你是留學生的話，你禮拜一到五一定被排得滿滿
But if you are a regular student, you're gonna have lectures from Monday to Friday
每天一定有課
There're lectures every day
這就是留學跟交換的差別啊！
This is the difference between regular and exchange student
除非你到比較高的學期
Otherwise you're in the third year
那時候比較專業的時候
at that time you're more professional
可是我覺得你那時候可能就要開始找工作了
But I think you're gonna look for a job at that time
那時候要開始找工作，找實習
exactly
講到學費，你留學要繳學費嗎？
Talking about tuition, does a regular student need to pay for it?
不用
No, we don't.
德國是不是目前還是很多公立大學都不用錢？
Are there lots of public universities for tuition free?
對！除了在另一州
Yes, except another state
那州要錢
They'll charge you.
對！他們從去年還是前年開始就要付錢了
Ya, they start to charge tuition from last year or two years ago
1500 Euros
一學期
per semester
大概50,000元台幣
it's about 50,000 NTD
跟台灣私立學校差不多
it's similar with private college in Taiwan
這樣算起來不會太貴拉～
It's not very expensive
跟英國比的話
comparing to the UK
如果你能在別州免費的話，為什麼要去那裡
If you don't need to pay in other states, why do you wanna go that one
對交換生而言，交換生只要付台灣的學費
For exchange students, we only need to pay the intuition for home college
所以我們也不用額外付學費
so we don't need to pay extra
這邊也有一些密集語言課程
There're some language intensive courses
假如你要修的話，就是額外付錢
If you wanna pick it, you need to pay for it with some discounts
像語言學校一樣，這邊有開語言課程
Just like language institution
就德文，每一天都上五個小時以上
e.g.German course, there're more than 5 hours per day
而且德國也出名“工程”
The engineering is well known in Germany
講到工程
Talking about engineering
我們交換生有分企管跟工程
There're two major "Business and Engineering" for the exchange students
假如你是工程的話，你一個禮拜會上三堂德文課
If your major is about engineering, you'll have 3 German classes per week
然後都一小時半
There is one and half hour per class
企管的話就只有2堂
but if your major is Business, it's only 2 German classes per week
因為他們很明顯的就是想要讓工程背景的人才留下
Because they wanna attract engineering talents to work in Germany
所以唸企管相關的朋友們，一起好好努力找工作
So Business friends, let's look for a job harder
因為我現在也有一個朋友也在找企管相關工作
Because I got a friend who is looking for Business job hard
可是他就比較難找，他在慕尼黑找
It's hard for her, she's looking for it in Munich
我們剛聊了這麼多
We talked a bunch of experience about
Bryan在這邊的留學，跟我在這邊交換的一些經驗
Bryan's and my studying experience
不知道大家對留學跟交換比較喜歡哪一個呢？
Would you prefer be a regular student or an exchange student in Germany?
在這邊投票，告訴我
Plz vote here, tell me
有問題的話請在下面留言
If you have any questions, leave comments below
然後不要忘記幫我按個讚
don't forget give me a like
並且訂閱我喔
and subscribe me
讓我們謝謝馬來西亞的夥伴，Bryan
Let's thanks for Bryan to join us
謝謝Jarryl邀請我
Thanks for Jarryl inviting me
不客氣，抱一個
You're welcome, let's hug
讓我們下次再見嚕！掰掰
See ya, bye
