>>> WE ARE BACK WITH DAVID ANDEN
BOBBY, BROTHERS FROM A SET OF 
TRIPLETS SEPARATED BUT REUNITED 
LATER.
THERE IS A DARK SIDE TO THIS 
FAIR TALE STORY.
LAWRENCE WRIGHT DISCOVERED THE 
BOYS WERE PART OF A COMPLEX AND 
CONTROVERSIAL STUDY.
THE STUDY BY THIS GUY, DR. 
NEWBAUER WAS DESIGNED TO FIGURE 
OUT WHAT?
>> WELL, THE TWINS ARE 
FASCINATING, AND TRIPLETS 
OCCASIONALLY, THEY ARE THE SAME.
THEY ARE LIKE CLONES.
BUT IF THEY GROW UP IN THE SAME 
ENVIRONMENT, THEY VERY MUCH ARE 
ALIKE.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PUT ONE 
TWIN IN A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT 
AND THEN YOU COMPARE THEM AS 
THEY GROW UP?
HOW DO THEY CHANGE?
AND T A WAY OF MEASURING HOW 
MUCH ENVIRONMENT VERSUS GENETICS
DETERMINES WHO WE ARE.
>> NATURE VERSUS NURTURE.
>> EXACTLY.
THIS WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL 
STUDY.
IT WAS IRRESISTIBLE, I THINK.
IF YOU PURPOSELY SEPARATE THESE 
TWINS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING 
AND SEE HOW THEY TURN OUT OVER 
THE COURSE OF THEIR LIVES.
>> AND THESE BOYS WERE.
SO BOBBY WENT INTO A MORE UPPER 
CLASS FAMILY.
RIGHT?
A WEALTHIER FAMILY?
YOU WENT INTO A MORE WORKING 
CLASS FAMILY AND EDDIE WAS 
PLACED IN A MORE MIDDLE CLASS 
FAMILY?
>> YES.
>> AND YOU WERE STUDIED LIKE LAB
RATS, LIKE YOU SAY, AND YOU 
WOULD ULTIMATELY COME TO 
DETERMINE THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING
ELSE IN COMMON.
WHEN YOU FIGURED OUT AND MET 
YOUR BIOLOGICAL MOM, WHAT WAS 
HER STORY?
>> WELL, SHE WAS NOT MARRIED, 
AND SHE WAS YOUNG, AND SHE WAS 
JEWISH, AND SHE WAS PREGNANT, 
AND WE'D BEEN ASKED AT CERTAIN 
POINTS WHEN WE FIRST GOT 
TOGETHER, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN 
FINDING YOUR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER.
I REMEMBER DAVID SAYING THANK 
YOU FOR USING THE TERM 
BIOLOGICAL.
SHE CARRIED US AND GAVE BIRTH TO
US, BUT OUR PARENTS ARE AT HOME 
WATCHING, AND SHE ACTUALLY SAW 
THAT AND SHE KEPT A RESPECTFUL 
DISTANCE, AND THEN IN 1985 WE 
JUST SORT OF GOT THIS FEVER.
IT WAS PROBABLY MORE ME AND 
EDDIE THAN DAVID.
>> IT WAS DEFINITELY.
EDDIE WAS THE DRIVING FORCE.
YOU PUSHED ME.
I WENT.
>> TO MEET HER.
>> DAVID'S BEST FRIEND ALLEN 
BECAME ALL OUR BEST FRIENDS.
HE WAS IN ON A LOT OF STUFF WITH
US, AND WE JUST HAD A LOT OF 
ADVENTURES WITH HIM.
HE'S A GREAT GUY, AND SO THE 
THREE OF US AND ALLEN WENT TO 
NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WE FOUND OUT THAT THE NEW 
YORK -- IT WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH WAS CALLED THE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND VITAL STATISTICS.
>> JUST TO MOVE THE STORY 
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO GET 
TO.
YOU MET HER.
YOU QUESTIONED WHETHER THERE WAS
A MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY THERE?
SHE WAS AN ALCOHOL USER?
ABUSER?
>> I WOULDN'T SAY NECESSARILY.
YOU KNOW, WE -- OVER THE YEARS 
AND I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF
OURSELVES EITHER, BUT OVER THE 
YEARS THERE WERE DIFFERENT 
DYNAMICS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN -- THAT WE
ENDED UP EACH HAVING FAMILIES 
AND CHILDREN AND STUFF.
THERE WERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF 
COMMUNICATION WITH HER.
>> AND YOU THREE PUT IT TOGETHER
THAT THE THREE OF YOU, 
NOTWITHSTANDING BEING PLACED IN 
THE THREE DIFFERENT HOUSES, HAD 
YOUR OWN PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.
EACH BOY WHAT?
>> AT THE SAME TIME.
>> HAD ALL BEEN IN A PSYCH 
FACILITY?
>> BETWEEN 15 AND 17 WE EACH 
HAD -- 
>> WE EACH HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS, 
AND AS KIDS WE EACH WERE, LIKE, 
MY PARENTS CALLED IT TEMPER 
TANTRUMS, BUT IT COULD HAVE 
BEEN -- UNTIL YOU PASSED OUT, 
BANGING YOUR HEAD INSIDE THE 
CRIB.
>> YOU WERE TOGETHER THE FIRST 
SIX MONTHS OF YOUR LIVES AND 
THEN THEY SEPARATED THE BABIES.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
DAVID AND ME, WE DON'T HAVE -- 
>> IT WAS FIVE MONTHS.
>> OKAY.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING DIFFERENT 
THINGS AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT 
THINGS AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
>> AND THE METAL HEALTH PROBLEMS
THE BOYS WOULD SUFFER MOST 
MANIFEST MOST SEVERELY WITH 
THEIR BROTHER EDDIE.
THE REASON HE IS NO LONGER WITH 
US IS HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE, AND 
THE DEVASTATION OF THAT 
CONTINUES TO AFFECT ALL OF YOU 
STILL TO THIS DAY, I KNOW.
>> SURE.
>> BUT THERE ARE REAL LIFE 
IMPLICATIONS TO ALL OF THE
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>>> WE'RE BACK WITH IDENTICAL 
BROTHERS ALONG WITH THE DOCTOR 
WHO WAS THE FIRST TO DISCOVER 
THE BOYS WERE PART OF A STUDY 
LASTING TWO DECADES.
YOU WANTED TO SEE THE RESULTS.
FIRST, NURTURE OR NATURE, AND B,
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT ME AND 
THE NAME OF THE GROUP THAT 
NOW -- THIS AGENCY CLOSED.
BUT THE JEWISH BOARD OF FAMILY 
AND CHILDREN SERVICES IS IN 
CONTROL OF ALL THE RECORDS AND 
IS RELATED TO THIS ENTITY.
WE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SAY 
WHERE IS THE RESULTS AND THE 
ACCOUNTABILITY AND HOW COULD 
THIS HAVE BEEN DONE.
THEY SAID THE JEWISH BOARD DOES 
NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE THE STUDY
AND WE REGRET IT TOOK PLACE.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO A STRONGER 
RELATIONSHIP AND CONTINUE TO 
OPEN COMMUNICATION BY THOSE 
INDIVIDUALS IMPACTED BY THE 
STUDY.
THEY SAY THE RECORDS ARE 
COMPRISED OF PERSONAL 
INFORMATION AND THE REDACTIONS 
ARE TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUALS.
YOU TELL ME WHY THIS GROUP WOULD
NOT BE RELEASING THESE RECORDS 
IN FULL SO WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY 
WHO WAS STUDIED AND WHERE AND 
WHAT WAS DONE?
>> AND TELL ME WHY WE'RE 
THREATING ETHICAL NOW.
-- GETTING ETHICAL NOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW UNDER WHAT LEGAL
COMPACT THEY HAVE WITH THE 
ORIGINAL TRUST AND THE DOCTOR.
I CAN SUGGEST WHY HE HID THE 
STUDY.
HE WAS A PSYCHIATRIST.
HIS WHOLE PROFESSION IS BASED ON
THE FACT THAT OUR EXPERIENCES 
SHAPE US AND MAKE US WHO WE ARE.
WHAT IF THAT'S ONLY TRUE IN A 
SMALL WAY AND OUR GENES ARE IN 
CONTROL.
IDENTICAL TWINS RAISED APART IN 
EVERY RESPECT OF THEIR 
PERSONALITIES ARE MORE LIKE EACH
OTHER THAN FRATERNAL TWINS WHO 
ARE RAISED IN THE SAME 
ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR 
ENVIRONMENT OR FAMILY INFLUENCES
AND ALWAYS PREMISES OF 
PSYCHIATRY AND PSYCHOLOGY IS 
ABOUT EXPERIENCE IS THE RIVER 
AND MAKES US WHO WE ARE.
>> HIS LIFE'S WORK MAY HAVE BEEN
UNDERMINED.
>> I THINK HE WAS SHOCKED BY THE
RESULTS OF THE STUDY.
>> HOW MANY OTHERS DO WE THINK 
THERE ARE OUT THERE, TWINS OR 
TRIPLETS WHO DON'T KNOW THEY HAD
ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS OR THEY
HAD A TWIN.
>> IN THE FILM ONE OF THE 
RESEARCHERS THOUGHT THERE WERE 
FOUR OR SIX OTHER PAIRS THAT 
MIGHT STILL BE OUT THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'LL FIND 
EACH OTHER.
WITH FACEBOOK AND ALL THESE 
IDENTICAL FIND YOUR DOPPELGANGER
AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT'S GOING 
TO BE DIFFICULT NOT TO FIND IT.
>> AND WITH THE RELEASE OF THE 
MOVIE, "THREE IDENTICAL 
STRANGERS".
IF YOU WERE BORN IN THE EARLY 
60s AND ADOPTED THROUGH THIS 
AGENCY IN MAN HAT YRNGS YOU 
MIGHT BE ONE OF THE REMAINING 
BABIES.
YOU MIGHT THINK YOU HAVE A TWIN.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
DO YOU REMEMBER SOMEBODY COMING 
TO YOUR HOUSE AND BEING 
MONITORED AND SITTING FOR 
VIDEOTAPES AND BEING GIVEN THE 
TEST?
YOU'VE GOT TO SEE THE FILM.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO LEARN.
IT'S IN THEATERS NATIONWIDE 
TOMORROW.
ALL THE BEST TO YOU GUYS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> EDDIE'S DAUGHTER IS HERE TO.
