LIZ: THE LIST OF DEMOCRATS
CANDIDATES GROWING TO NOW NEARLY
TWO DOZEN AND WE WELCOME ONE OF
THEM TO THE SHOW A FORMER
BUSINESSMAN, A TWO-TERM GOVERNOR
OF COLORADO HE'S 2020 CONTEND
CONTENDER, DEMOCRAT JOHN HICKNN
LOOPER.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON.
GOVERNOR YOU RECENTLY WROTE AN
OP-ED FOR THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL SAYING YOU'RE RUNNING TO
SAVE CAPITALISM.
CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT IT?
>>  YEAH, I WAS WANTING TO MAKE
THE POINT THAT CAPITALISM AS IT
WORKS NOW IN AMERICA ISN'T
SERVING THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA,
AND JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A
STRONG STOCK MARKET DOESN'T MEAN
AMERICA IS BETTER OFF, AND I'M
AN ENTREPRENEUR, COLORADO HAS
GONE FROM 40TH IN JOHN CREATION
TO THE LAST THREE YEARS TO THE
NUMBER ONE ECONOMY IN THE
COUNTRY BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
CAPITALISM IS SUCCEEDING.
LIZ: YOU KNOW, NOW 7.5 MILLION
JOB OPENINGS VERSUS 5.8 MILLION
UNEMPLOYED AND WHAT'S REALLY
INTERESTING GOVERNOR IS THAT IN
THESE DEBATES YOU WANT TO HAVE
PEOPLE SHARING COMMON TRUTHS AND
FACTS.
DEMOCRATS HAVE USED REALLY
FLAWED DATA IN THE INCOME AND
EQUALITY SITE MISLEADING VOTERS
AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE SAYS
THAT SURVEY THAT SAYS THAT THOSE
MAKES LESS THAN, THOSE THAT
DON'T HAVE $400 FOR EMERGENCIES
LIKE FOUR OUT OF 10 PEOPLE IT'S
SKEWED TOWARD THE FEDERAL
RESERVE SAYS THOSE MAKING LESS
THAN 40 K, THE FEDERAL RESERVE
SAYS THAT IS MOSTLY LOWER INCOME
PEOPLE SURVEYED AND THE CENSUS
BUREAU IS ALWAYS WARNING THAT
PEOPLE UNDER REPORT THEIR INCOME
IN TALKING TO THE GOVERNMENT AND
THE NUMBERS THAT THE DEMOCRATS
USE DON'T INCLUDE THE HELP
CONGRESS GOTTEN ACTED LIKE
MEDICARE MEDICAID FOOD STAMPS
AND PUBLIC HOUSING SO THE DEBATE
IS REALLY TWISTED IN THIS INCOME
AND EQUALITY FIGHT.
I THINK THE VOTERS KNOW THAT THE
DEMOCRATS ARE WHIPPING FAST
BALLS BY THEM.
>>  [LAUGHTER]
LISTEN YOU COULD QUIBBLE OVER
THAT BUT THERE ARE A LOT USUALLY
THERE ARE DOZENS OF POLLS AND
SURVEYS THAT SAY 75% TO 80
PERSON PERSON OF AMERICANS CAN'T
BALANCE THEIR HOUSEHOLD BUDGETS
AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
LIZ: IT'S LOWER INCOME
INDIVIDUALS.
IT'S FROM BANK RATE MONITOR SEE
THAT'S THE THING.
LET ME BACK UP.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU SAY YOU
WANT TO ADJUST CAPITALISM?
IT LOOKS LIKE CAPITALISM IS
WORKING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW.
POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS OFTEN
TRUMP, OVERRIDE GOOD ECONOMICS
WHEN YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT
STEPPING IN RIGHT?
HOW DO YOU FIX CAPITALISM?
>>  WE'VE GOT RECORD DEBT,
REMARKABLY LOW LEVELS OF SAVINGS
, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF
CHALLENGES.
WE DON'T HAVE FOR 40 YEARS WE'VE
BEEN HAVING EVERY YEAR LESS
STARTUPS, LESS BUSINESS CREATION
THAT'S WHERE NEW JOBS ARE.
WE'VE GOT TO BEGIN LOOKING AT
HOW DO WE GET COMPETITION BACK
IN THE MARKETPLACE.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
I'M AN ENTREPRENEUR I BELIEVE IN
CAPITALISM BUT YOU NEED
COMPETITION TO MAKE CAPITALISM
WORK.
LIZ: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
BY THE WAY DO YOU AGREE WITH
BERNIE SANDERS SINGLE PAYER PLAN
WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON THAT?
>>  NO I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS A
PUBLIC OPTION IN OTHER WORDS
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET HEALTHCARE
ON THE PRIVATE
EXCHANGES NEED TO HAVE MEDICARE
MEDICARE ADVANTAGE BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE WE'LL TAKE HEALTHCARE
INSURANCE AWAY FROM 150 MILLION
PEOPLE WITHOUT A NEEDLESS BATTLE
LIZ: I'D LIKE YOUR FINAL WORD ON
THIS AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL
THAT YOU CAME ON.
JAMIE JAMIE DIMON SAID IT TOOK
EIGHT YEARS TO PUT A MAN ON THE
MOON, ISN'T THAT AN ISSUE?
YOU RAN A SMALL BUSINESS YOU
BASICALLY REVITALIZED DOWNTOWN
DENVER, RIGHT WITH RESTAURANTS
AND PUBS.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO RUN A
BUSINESS RIGHT?
>>  YEAH AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU
NEED APPROPRIATE REGULATION.
WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE OIL & GAS
INDUSTRY TO WORK WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY AND
CREATE REGULATIONS BY EVERYONE
WORKING TOGETHER SO WHEN I WAS
GOVERNOR WE WENT THROUGH 24, 500
RULES AND REGULATIONS IN
COLORADO AND THEY WERE
SIMPLIFIED OR GOT RID OF ALMOST
11,000, THAT'S APPROPRIATE
REGULATION BUT YOU STILL NEED
REGULATION.
LIZ: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
BUT SIR, YOU KNOW, REALLY
INTERESTING GOVERNOR WILL YOU
COME BACK ON?
I REALLY LIKE THIS DEBATE AND
TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS, YOU
GAVE SOME INSIGHTS AND
PERSPECTIVES THERE THE DEMOCRAT
PARTY NEEDS TO LISTEN TO MORE.
YOU RAN A BUSINESS YOU'RE A TWO-
TERM GOVERNOR AND YOU HAVE A
LOT OF THOUGHTS AND CONTRACTS
