JUDY WOODRUFF: It's been eight days since
President Trump met with North Korea's leader,
Kim Jong-un, in Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam.
Earlier this week, two organizations that
watch North Korea published satellite images
of a North Korean launch rocket facility,
which had been dismantled over the past several
months, now being rebuilt.
Today, President Trump was asked about whether
Kim was breaking a promise to shut down the
facility.
DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States:
Our relationship, with North Korea, Kim Jong-un
and myself, Chairman Kim, I think it's a very
good one.
I think it remains good.
I would be surprised, in a negative way, if
he did anything that wasn't per our understanding,
but we will see what happens.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And here now is our Nick Schifrin,
who was in Hanoi last week reporting on the
summit.
Nick, what are the North Koreans doing at
this facility?
NICK SCHIFRIN: So, this is a facility that
they partially disassembled, and now they
are reassembling what they disassembled.
And that includes rebuilding a testing stand,
relaying railroad and reattaching a roof.
So the facility is once again operational.
But let's put it in some perspective.
When you say a facility for testing, it is
not a missile launch facility.
This has launched satellites into orbit.
So this is not necessarily an indication that
they're going to launch a rocket with any
kind of tip or an ICBM, a missile that can
reach the United States.
But if they did test another satellite, that
would be a violation of a Security Council
resolution.
And the technology that North Korea uses in
that satellite test site would be the exact
same technology that they use in long-range
missiles.
So that is why U.S. officials are concerned.
JUDY WOODRUFF: There is some concern.
So, it's our understanding a senior administration
official briefed reporters yesterday on a
lot of this.
What was learned?
NICK SCHIFRIN: We learned basically that the
U.S. approach has shifted in a major way before
Hanoi.
And that really led the president to try and
seek a grand bargain that most experts say
was doomed to fail.
So let's understand the shift.
I will take you back to January.
Steve Biegun, the top U.S. negotiator, gave
a big speech at Stanford.
He said the U.S. was willing to take a step,
North Korea takes a step.
It's a staged approach.
He also said that the U.S. was willing to
talk about not only denuclearization, but
the topics that North Korea wanted to talk
about, finding a peace regime on the North
Korean Peninsula and also improving relations
between the countries.
And they were willing to talk about all those
things simultaneously.
STEVE BIEGUN, U.S. Special Representative
for North Korea: We have communicated to our
North Korean counterparts that we are prepared
to pursue simultaneously and in parallel all
of the commitments our two leaders made in
their joint statement at Singapore last summer.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Now, that was January.
Let me read you a statement by a senior State
Department official from yesterday: "Nobody
in the administration advocates a step-by-step
approach.
In all cases, the expectation is a complete
denuclearization of North Korea as a condition
for all the other steps being -- all the other
steps being taken."
And so every expert we say -- we talk to say,
this is a major shift that led the president
to ask for a front-loaded grand bargain, all
of the North Korean nuclear weapons for all
of the sanctions relief.
And the U.S. went further and demanded a freeze
of chemical and biological weapons.
That's not something that the U.S. has done
before.
And, in Hanoi, North Korea said, look, we
don't trust the U.S. enough to make this kind
of grand bargain.
The North Koreans put a smaller -- relatively
smaller deal on the table that experts we
talk to say was meant to be a starting point.
But the president did not like that, wanted
that front-loaded bargain, and walked away,
rather than negotiate.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, a shift.
Why?
NICK SCHIFRIN: We don't know for sure.
But what -- the officials I speak to point
to two things.
One, John Bolton, the national security adviser,
was at the table in Hanoi, has never believed
in a staged approach.
Number two, the president has soured, according
to one Senior administration official, on
South Korean President Moon Jae-in, who has
been advocating for this staged approach,
and instead is listening to Prime Minister
of Japan Shinzo Abe, who says, don't trust
the North Koreans.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, what's next?
What does that mean?
NICK SCHIFRIN: Administration officials say
they believe no bridges were burned.
They hope that negotiations continue.
And they say that they understand the North
Korean program, they understand what North
Korea wants a little better than they did
before Hanoi.
But the question is, what is the deal that
the U.S. wants next?
North Korea says it's open to some kind of
staged deal.
But as long as the U.S. holds out for this
grand bargain, North Korea says it's not interested.
And so it's not clear where these negotiations
go.
And the analysts we speak to, both pro-engagement
and more critical of North Korea, really fear
that this moment is leading to the two sides
digging in and tensions increasing.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And, in other words, still
far apart, as far as we can tell.
NICK SCHIFRIN: As far as we can tell.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Nick Schifrin, thank you.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Thanks very much.
