DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HARSH ON 
YOU, KENNY, BECAUSE I KNOW 
YOU'RE THE MAIN CULPRIT HERE.
BUT I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR 
ALL THESE STARS TO GO OUT THERE 
AND EMBRACE THIS GUY, WHO IS A 
PRETTY EVIL MAN, RUNNING A VERY 
EVIL REGIME.
YOU YOURSELF MET HIM, KIM 
JONG-UN, AND SHOOK HIS HAND, 
RIGHT?
WHEN YOU WERE DOING THAT, DID 
YOU NOT THINK TO YOURSELF, IF 
YOU ONLY KNEW THE KIND OF FURY 
THAT WAS GOING ON.
DID YOU THINK TO YOURSELF, WHY 
AM I DOING THIS?
>> I'M OVER THERE NOW.
I HAD NO WAY -- YOU KNOW, I STAY
AT THE HOTEL, I BOYCOTT, I WAS 
CLOUDY.
YOU KNOW, I'M OVER IN ANOTHER --
>> YOU STILL SHOOK HIS HAND.
>> I HAD NO CHOICE.
I WAS GOING TO DO IT, 
REGARDLESS.
>> WHY DID YOU HAVE NO CHOICE?
>> BECAUSE I FEARED -- YOU KNOW,
YOU FEAR WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I GOT
THE PHONE CALL, A FEW HOURS 
BEFORE THE GAME.
MY WIFE WAS CRYING.
SHE WAS LIKE, DON'T PLAY.
SHE WAS SCARED FOR MY SAFETY.
SO I HAD NO CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THERE, 
THEY TOOK -- YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE
OUR PASSPORTS AWAY, YOU KNOW?
AND I JUST -- I HAD TO FINISH 
WHAT I STARTED.
>> DID YOU FEEL ASHAMED AS YOU 
WERE DOING IT?
>> I FELT BAD.
I FELT BAD.
I FELT VERY BAD THAT, YOU KNOW, 
FOR MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, FOR MY 
CLOSE FRIENDS AND AMERICANS AND 
PEOPLE THAT LOOKED UP TO KENNY 
ANDERSON.
>> YOU'VE BEEN A HERO TO.
YOU'VE BEEN A SPORTING ICON.
A GREAT ROLE MODEL IN MANY WAYS.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU COME BRAVELY 
ON THE SHOW.
I DON'T WANT TO PILLORY YOU TOO 
MUCH FOR IT.
BUT, ON BEHALF OF THE OTHERS, 
WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN OUT, WHAT DO 
YOU THINK EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT 
IT?
DO YOU FEEL THAT DENNIS, IN A 
WAY, SUCKERED YOU INTO SOMETHING
THAT YOU JUST REALLY SHOULD 
NEVER HAVE BEEN IN?
>> FIRST OF ALL, I'M 43 YEARS 
OLD.
I MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS.
AND LIKE I SAID, I KEEP GOING 
BACK TO IT -- I WAS UPSET WITH 
MYSELF, JUST NOT DOING MY DUE 
DILIGENCE ABOUT THIS TRIP.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO 
GIVE ME SO MUSH BACKLASH.
>> WHAT REACTION HAVE YOU HAD 
FROM PEOPLE?
NOT, LIKE, WHY DID YOU GO?
YOU KNOW, DID YOU KNOW?
SO, YOU KNOW.
LIKE I SAID, MY MAIN THING WAS 
MY WIFE AND MY KIDS AT SCHOOL, 
WHEN THEY WAS GETTING 
APPROACHED.
AND I'M -- ALL I DO IS PLAY 
BASKETBALL, AND YOU KNOW, THE 
GAME THAT GAVE ME SO MANY 
OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, 
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING.
SINCE RETIRING, TRAVELING 
AROUND, PLAYING GAMES IN 
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
>> THE NBA COMMISSIONER, DAVID 
STERN, ISSUED A STATEMENT, 
SAYING THE NBA IS NOT INVOLVED 
AND WOULD NOT PARTICIPATE 
WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE U.S.
STATE DEPARTMENT.
ALTHOUGH SPORTS IN MANY 
INSTANCES CAN BE HELPFUL IN 
BRIDGING CULTURAL DIVIDES, THIS 
IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP NOW.
THIS IS WHEN DENNIS RODMAN -- TO
ME, THIS IS THE WORST MOMENT.
WHEN HE SINGS HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO 
KIM JONG-UN.
LET'S WATCH THIS.
♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪
♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪
♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪
>> I MEAN, IT'S AWFUL IMAGERY, 
ISN'T IT?
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, WHAT ARE 
YOU THINKING, KENNY?
BECAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF
PUPPETS, STOOGES, PEOPLE WHO 
HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT THERE TO 
BASICALLY PROP UP AND SUPPORT AN
EVIL REGIME.
YOU'RE CLAPPING LIKE THE WAY 
THEY MAKE THEIR PEOPLE CLAP.
>> NOW LOOKING BACK ON IT, YOU 
KNOW, WE WERE.
WE'RE OVER THERE NOW.
YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST DID AS, YOU 
KNOW -- 
>> IT MUST MAKE YOUR SKIN CRAWL,
DOESN'T IT?
>> IT BOTHERED ME.
>> WHEN YOU WATCH IT NOW, WHAT 
DO YOU THINK?
>> ALL THE INFORMATION -- 
>> YOU'RE STANDING THERE 
CLAPPING THIS MONSTER.
>> LET ME INTERJECT.
>> YEAH?
>> IF I MAY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, AT THE 
BEGINNING OF THE INTERVIEW, 
KENNY IS ABOUT THE KIDS, OKAY?
>> WELL, HE WASN'T ABOUT THE 
KIDS OUT THERE.
>> LET ME FINISH.
>> I DON'T MEAN TO BE HARSH, BUT
HE'S NOT OUT THERE HELPING THE 
KIDS.
HE'S HELPING -- 
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT 
IT WAS GOING TO BE CLINICS, 
CAMPS, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH 
KIDS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS -- 
>> BUT WHEN YOU WATCH THAT 
VIDEO, TO HAVE THAT MOMENT, 
ACTUALLY, WHAT YOU WERE DOING 
WAS BEING USED AS A STOOGE AND A
PUPPET FOR THIS REGIME.
>> A PUPPET.
>> LOOK, CAN I ASK YOU A 
QUESTION?
>> SURE.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THEY 
TOOK YOUR PASSPORT AT A HOTEL 
AND YOU WENT THERE, UNDER FALSE 
PRETENSES, IF YOU WILL.
NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU GOT
