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>> Andrew: GOOD EVENING, I'M 
ANDREW CHANG.
TONIGHT, LENDING A HAND TO 
CANADA'S BIGGEST EMPLOYERS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: TO 
COLLECTIVELY EMPLOY MILLIONS OF 
CANADIANS.
>> Andrew: WHAT IT MEANS FOR 
INDUSTRIES IN NEED FROM ENERGY 
TO AIRLINES.
>> Adrienne: I'M ADRIENNE 
ARSENAULT.
ALSO TONIGHT, HEADING BACK TO 
SCHOOL.
>> MOMMY, MY MASK. 
>> IT'S IN YOUR BAG. 
>> Adrienne: QUEBEC BEGINS AN 
ELEMENTARY EXPERIMENT.
>>> I HAVE SHAKEN.
I HAVE SHAKEN A LOT.
>> Andrew: TRACKING THE GROUPS 
HIT HARD BY COVID-19.
>> Adrienne: AND NEW DETAILS ON 
A HORRIBLE RAMPAGE.
>> EVERYBODY DESERVES AN 
EXPLANATION.
>> Adrienne: SHEDDING SOME LIGHT
FOR THE LOVED ONES OF 22 NOVA 
SCOTIANS.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL".
>>> EXACTLY TWO MONTHS INTO THE 
GLOBAL PANDEMIC, SO MANY 
INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, SMALL 
BUSINESSES ARE RELYING ON HELP 
FROM A KIND OF ALPHABET SOUP OF 
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. 
>> Andrew: NOW THE LATEST LIFE 
SUPPORT FOR AN INFECTED ECONOMY 
STRUGGLING TO BREATHE GOES TO 
CANADA'S GIANTS.
THE LARGE EMPLOYER EMERGENCY 
FINANCING FACILITY, OR LEEFF FOR
SHORT, WILL GIVE LOANS WORTH $60
MILLION PLUS TO COMPANIES WITH 
REVENUES OF $300 MILLION OR 
MORE.
BUT DAVID COCHRANE SHOWS US HOW 
OTTAWA IS TRYING TO ASSURE 
CANADIANS THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT 
HELPING THE BIG GUYS.
>> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER 
ISN'T OPENING A BANK, BUT HIS 
GOVERNMENT WILL ACT AS A LENDER 
OF LAST RESORT TO AVOID 
BANKRUPTCIES.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: OUR 
PURPOSE IS TO KEEP LARGE 
CANADIAN COMPANIES ON THEIR FEET
AND PROTECT THE MILLIONS OF JOBS
THEY PROVIDE.
>> Reporter: IT'S BIG MONEY TO 
HELP THE BIGGEST COMPANIES.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: BUT 
LET ME BE CLEAR, THESE ARE 
BRIDGE LOANS, NOT BAILOUTS.
>> Reporter: SO THOSE BRIDGE 
LOANS COME WITH BIG STRINGS.
COMPANIES HAVE TO MAINTAIN 
EMPLOYMENT AND INVESTMENT 
LEVELS.
THEY MUST HONOUR COLLECTIVE 
AGREEMENTS AND PENSION PLANS.
NO BIG BONUSES FOR EXECUTIVES OR
SHAREHOLDERS.
COMPANIES ALSO HAVE TO COMMIT TO
FUTURE CLIMATE TARGETS, AND THEY
MUST DISCLOSE THEIR FINANCIAL 
STRUCTURE TO THE GOVERNMENT SO 
IT CAN CRACK DOWN ON TAX 
DODGERS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: IF WE
SEE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEONE IS 
ENGAGED IN AGGRESSIVE TAX 
AVOIDANCE, WE WILL BE PUTTING IN
CONDITIONS OR WORKING OUT A WAY 
WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY 
PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
>> WE'RE TALKING DEFINITELY TENS
OF THOUSANDS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF 
THOUSANDS OF JOBS. 
>> Reporter: BUSINESS GROUPS SAY
IT'S BADLY NEEDED CREDIT FOR 
BADLY HIT SECTORS.
OIL COMPANIES HAVE BEEN HAMMERED
BY LOW PRICES AND LOW DEMAND.
NON-ESSENTIAL RETAIL OUTLETS ARE
GHOST TOWNS.
SO ARE MAJOR HOTELS, WHILE AIR 
TRAVEL HAS LARGELY GROUND TO A 
HALT.
>> IT'S THE PART OF THE ECONOMY 
THAT HAS BEEN PUMMELLED THE MOST
BY THIS VIRUS, AND PROBABLY HAS 
A LONGER RETURN TO NORMAL LIFE.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE 
THAT WE HELP ALL SECTORS ACROSS 
THE ECONOMY.
>> Reporter: SO NEW CREDIT FOR 
BIG COMPANIES, EXPANDED CREDIT 
FOR MEDIUM ONES, AND A CLEAR 
SENSE IT'S NOT DONE.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PAIN 
POINTS AND PRESSURE THAT 
DIFFERENT SECTORS ARE GOING TO.
-- GOING THROUGH.
>> Reporter: THOSE PAIN POINTS 
WILL DETERMINE IF EVEN MORE 
FINANCIAL SUPPORT IS NEEDED.
THE GOVERNMENT WAS ADAMANT THAT 
THIS PROGRAM SHOULD NOT BE 
CALLED A BAILOUT, BUT THAT 
DOESN'T MEAN BAILOUTS WON'T BE 
NEEDED AS THIS PANDEMIC DRAGS 
ON.
DAVID COCHRANE, CBC NEWS, 
OTTAWA.
>> Adrienne: AS THE ECONOMY 
SLOWLY OPENS, CBC NEWS WILL 
EXAMINE THE FULL SCALE OF THE 
PANDEMIC'S TOLL, INCLUDING 
HARD-HIT REGIONS LIKE ALBERTA 
AND NEWFOUNDLAND AND 
HARD-SECTORS.
TONIGHT, IT'S TWO INDUSTRIES 
THAT COULD USE FEDERAL LOAN 
SUPPORT.
IN A MOMENT, THE VIEW FROM THE 
GROUNDED AIRLINE INDUSTRY, BUT 
FIRST, KYLE BAKX TAKES US TO THE
OIL PATCH.
>> Reporter: THIS OIL-LOADING 
TERMINAL WAS RUNNING AT FULL 
CAPACITY AT THE START OF THE 
YEAR WHEN CANADA SET NEW RECORDS
FOR EXPORTING CRUDE BY RAIL.
NOW MOST CARS SIT IDLE.
BUSINESS IS DOWN ABOUT 50%.
>> THIS IS AS BAD AS IT HAS EVER
BEEN.
THE DISCOUNTED PRICE IN WESTERN 
CANADA HAS HAD A VERY DRAMATIC 
IMPACT.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S 
ANNOUNCEMENT OF FEDERAL AID WAS 
WHAT THOSE IN ALBERTA WERE 
LOOKING FOR.
>> THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT 
SECTOR TO OUR COUNTRY, AND 
THERE'S SOME GREAT COMPANIES OUT
THERE THAT NEED SUPPORT, AND I 
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY 
GET IT QUICKLY. 
>> TODAY'S NEWS IN COMBINATION 
WITH EARLIER MEASURES FOR SMALL-
AND MEDIUM-SIZED COMPANIES 
REPRESENTS AN EXPRESSION OF 
CONFIDENCE IN INDUSTRIES THAT 
HAVE BEEN GREATLY DAMAGED DUE TO
THE COVID PANDEMIC.
>> Reporter: OIL PRODUCERS ARE 
LOSING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, EVEN
THE HEALTHIEST COMPANIES ARE 
WRACKING UP DEBT.
THERE'S STILL TOO MUCH OIL 
PRODUCED AROUND THE GLOBE, AND 
DEMAND FOR FUEL HAS FALLEN 
SHARPLY.
SOME COMPANIES WON'T SURVIVE.
>> THE INDUSTRY WILL LOOK A LOT 
DIFFERENT WHEN THAT HAPPENS THAN
IT DID BEFORE THIS STARTED.
>> REPORTER: OIL PRICES HAVE 
FALLEN SO LOW AT TIMES THEY'VE 
EVEN TURNED NEGATIVE.
THIS COMPANY LAID OFF 70% OF ITS
STAFF, MORE THAN A THOUSAND 
JOBS.
YET DESPITE THE SECTOR'S WOES, 
THERE IS STILL SOME OPTIMISM FOR
BRIGHTER DAYS AHEAD.
MUCH OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH NEW 
EXPORT PIPELINES, INCLUDING THE 
TRANS MOUNTAIN EXPANSION, WHICH 
IS FINALLY MAKING HEADWAY.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT-OWNED 
PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO SHIP OIL 
FROM EDMONTON TO THE VANCOUVER 
AREA.
CONTRACTORS HOPE TO BREAK GROUND
IN B.C. FOR THE FIRST TIME NEXT 
MONTH.
>> THE INITIAL PIPELINE WAS 
CALLED BRING OIL OVER THE 
ROCKIES.
IT WAS A REALLY HUGE DEAL, AND 
SO THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY 
CHALLENGING TERRAIN.
>> Reporter: THE HOPE HERE IS 
THAT MEASURES LIKE TODAYS MIGHT 
HELP COMPANIES HOLD ON UNTIL 
THEN.
KYLE BAKX, CBC NEWS, CALGARY.
>> Adrienne: SO AS YOU HEARD, 
CANADA'S AIRLINES HAVE BEEN 
FINANCIALLY FALLING.
JACQUELINE HANSEN SHOWS US WHAT 
OTTAWA'S ANNOUNCEMENT MEANS FOR 
THEM.
>> Reporter: ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
MOST COMMERCIAL PLANES HAVE BEEN
PARKED SINCE MID MARCH.
AND AIRLINES BIG AND SMALL ARE 
BURNING THROUGH CASH.
SOME ARE TAPPING INTO THE 
FEDERAL WAGE SUBSIDY TO HELP PAY
EMPLOYEES, BUT FLAIR AIRLINES 
SAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET BANKS
OR INVESTORS TO LEND MONEY RIGHT
NOW.
>> AS WE LOOK AT THE ROCKY ROAD 
OF RECOVERY, YES, WE DO NEED 
SOMEBODY THAT WILL COME IN AND 
BACKSTOP THESE LOANS. 
>> Reporter: OTTAWA'S NEW BRIDGE
FINANCING PROGRAM MAY HELP, 
THOUGH IT'S STILL UNCLEAR HOW 
MUCH MONEY AIRLINES WOULD BE 
ABLE TO BORROW.
THIS FORMER AIR CANADA 
EXECUTIVE, NOW PROFESSOR, SAYS 
THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO CHOICE BUT
TO STEP UP WITH MONEY.
>> MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO 
HAVE TO COME FROM THE GOVERNMENT
IF WE BELIEVE THAT AIR 
TRANSPORTATION IS VITAL TO THE 
SURVIVAL AND THE GROWTH OF THE 
ECONOMY.
>> Reporter: LAST WEEK 
INFLUENTIAL AMERICAN INVESTOR 
WARREN BUFFETT STOPPED 
BELIEVING.
HIS FIRM SOLD ALL ITS 
INVESTMENTS IN U.S. AIRLINES, 
EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT A 
SIGNIFICANT AID PACKAGE FROM 
WASHINGTON.
>> THE WORLD CHANGED FOR 
AIRLINES, AND I WISH THEM WELL.
>> Reporter: THIS RESEARCHER 
SAYS CANADA NEEDS ITS AIRLINES 
TO STAY COMPETITIVE.
>> ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A 
SECOND ROUND OF, YOU KNOW, THIS 
VIRUS CRISIS COME BACK.
THEN THEY WILL ALL -- THE 
MAJORITY OF THEM WILL GO 
BANKRUPT.
>> Reporter: IF THAT HAPPENS, 
THE WIDER ECONOMY WILL SUFFER.
>> AIRLINE INDUSTRY IS AN 
ENABLER OF THE INTERNATIONAL 
TRADE AND TOURISM AND REGIONAL 
DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS AIRLINE INDUSTRY IS MORE
IMPORTANT IN CANADA THAN MOST 
OTHER COUNTRIES.
>> Reporter: THE ASSOCIATION 
REPRESENTING CANADA'S BIGGEST 
AIRLINES SAYS IT'S PLEASED THE 
GOVERNMENT IS RECOGNIZING THE 
CHALLENGES THE INDUSTRY IS 
FACING.
>> THERE WAS REALLY NO MEASURE 
OR NO MEANS FOR AVIATION TO GET 
ITSELF OUT OF THIS CURRENT 
CRISIS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT 
INVOLVEMENT.
>> Reporter: BUT UNTIL AIRLINES 
GET MORE DETAILS, IT'S UNCLEAR 
IF THE FINANCING IS THE LIFELINE
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: FOR MORE ON 
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>> Andrew: NOW LET'S LOOK AT 
CANADA'S EFFORTS TO FLATTEN THE 
COVID-19 CURVE.
AFTER A RELATIVELY SHARP CLIMB 
EARLY LAST MONTH, IT PEAKED 
FIRST ON APRIL 23 WITH 1920 NEW 
CASES, NEW INFECTIONS, THEN 
AGAIN ON MAY 3 WITH 2,760.
THOUGH MANY OF THOSE WERE 
ACTUALLY PREVIOUSLY MISSED 
QUEBEC CASES BEING ADDED TO THE 
STATS.
OVERALL, NUMBERS HAVE GONE 
STEADILY DOWN SINCE.
TODAY'S COUNT, 1,133.
>>> NOW TODAY QUEBEC SENT 
THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS BACK TO 
SCHOOL.
IT IS AN EXPERIMENT IN THE 
PROVINCE HIT HARDEST BY THIS 
PANDEMIC.
SCHOOLS ARE STILL CLOSED IN THE 
MONTREAL AREA WHERE MOST CASES 
ARE, BUT FOR THE REST, THE 
EXPERIENCE LOOKS AWFULLY 
DIFFERENT THAN WE'RE USED TO 
SEEING.
ALISON NORTHCOTT SHOWS US.
>> YOU READY TO GO TO SCHOOL, 
BABE?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH?
>> MOMMY, MY MASK?
>> IT'S IN YOUR BAG. 
>> Reporter: STUDENTS ARE COMING
BACK TO SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT
FROM WHAT THEY LEFT TWO MONTHS 
AGO.
THEY HAVE TO STAY TWO METRES 
FROM EACH OTHER AND THEIR 
TEACHERS.
THEY CAN'T SHARE TOYS OR PLAY 
TAG, AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
HANDWASHING. 
>> I'M SO HAPPY. 
>> Reporter: STAFF ARE TRYING TO
MAKE THINGS AS NORMAL AS 
POSSIBLE.
>> SO THAT THIS PLACE FEELS AS 
SAFE AS IT DID BEFORE, AS FUN AS
IT WAS, AND ISN'T, YOU KNOW -- 
THERE AREN'T CONSTANT REMINDERS 
ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT WE FIND
OURSELVES IN.
>> Reporter: BUT THE REMINDERS 
ARE HARD TO ESCAPE.
AT THIS SCHOOL IN QUEBEC CITY, A
TEMPERATURE CHECK BEFORE CLASS, 
AT OTHERS, TEACHERS WITH 
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT GREETED 
KIDS WITH HAND SANITIZER. 
>> I TOOK ALL MORNING TO MAKE 
SURE THAT MY STUDENTS HAVE THEIR
HANDS WASHED.
>> Reporter: IT'S NOT MANDATORY 
TO GO BACK, AND SOME PARENTS ARE
KEEPING THEIR KIDS HOME. 
>> HAVING A MONTH-OLD BABY, 
LIKE, I -- I JUST WASN'T VERY, 
LIKE, COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT 
OF HAVING MY CHILD BEING, LIKE, 
AROUND MAYBE SOME OTHER CHILD 
THAT COULD HAVE IT. 
>> Reporter: BUT THAT'S NOT AN 
OPTION FOR EVERYONE.
>> I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A 
CHOICE.
I'M A NURSE, AND MY HUSBAND 
WORKS.
>> Reporter: SCHOOLS IN MONTREAL
WON'T OPEN FOR AT LEAST TWO 
WEEKS.
>> THERE'S NOBODY WHO'S MORE 
WORRIED THAN I AM ABOUT THE 
MONTREAL SITUATION.
>> Reporter: AND HE SAYS HE 
COULD DELAY THE REOPENING EVEN 
FURTHER. 
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: EVERY
JURISDICTION NEEDS TO MAKE 
DETERMINATIONS. 
>> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER 
IS URGING ALL PROVINCES TO BE 
CAUTIOUS. 
>> PRIME MINISTER TRUDEAU: 
CANADIANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY AT ALL 
ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT IN THE 
DECISIONS THEY MAKE AND WILL BE 
HELD TO ACCOUNT IF REOPENING 
HAPPENS TOO QUICKLY AND 
CANADIANS HAVE TO LOCK DOWN ONCE
AGAIN.
>> Reporter: AS THE FIRST 
PROVINCE TO BRING LARGE NUMBERS 
OF STUDENTS BACK TO THE 
CLASSROOM, QUEBEC WILL BE 
CLOSELY WATCHED BY THE REST OF 
THE COUNTRY.
ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS, 
MONTREAL.
>> Andrew: NOW QUEBEC IS VERY 
NEARLY ALONE IN TRYING TO 
SALVAGE THE SCHOOL YEAR.
OF THE 13 PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES, 11 HAVE SAID 
CLASSROOMS WILL NOT REOPEN.
THE ONLY OTHER HOLDOUT, ONTARIO.
PREMIER DOUG FORD SAID HE'LL 
ANNOUNCE THE PLAN NEXT WEEK.
>> Adrienne: RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, 
PREMIER FORD IS TAKING SOME HEAT
FOR POSSIBLY BREAKING HIS OWN 
PROVINCE'S RULES ON PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING.
TODAY DURING HIS TELEVISED 
UPDATE, HE DESCRIBED A RECENT 
FAMILY GATHERING.
ELLEN MAURO HAS THE FALLOUT.
>> Reporter: UNPROMPTED, PREMIER
DOUG FORD DESCRIBED A MOTHER'S 
DAY PERHAPS LESS PHYSICALLY 
DISTANT THAN ONTARIO'S OWN RULES
SEEM TO PRESCRIBE.
>> THE GIRLS CAME OVER.
THERE WAS SIX OF US.
DIRECT FAMILY.
NONE OF THE HUSBAND, BOYFRIENDS,
NO ONE CAME.
FROM THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER 
RIGHT NOW, HE STILL WANTS TO 
KEEP IT IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
>> Reporter: BUT ONTARIO'S 
COVID-19 WEBSITE DOES NOT EXEMPT
IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
INSTEAD IT SAYS EVERYONE SHOULD 
PRACTICE PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
THAT MEANS STAYING TWO METRES 
AWAY FROM ANYONE OUTSIDE YOUR 
HOUSEHOLD.
SOCIAL GATHERINGS SHOULD ALSO 
HAVE NO MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE.
THE DETAILS OF THE FORD FAMILY 
VISIT ARE UNCLEAR, WHETHER THEY 
WERE OUTSIDE OR IF THE FAMILY 
PHYSICALLY DISTANCED.
STILL, FORD'S REVELATION 
TRIGGERED CONFUSION, EVEN ANGER.
ONE TWITTER USER WRITING: "I'VE 
NEVER WENT THIS LONG WITHOUT 
SEEING MY FOLKS, SO AM I ALLOWED
TO VISIT THEM NOW:  
ANOTHER POST SAYS, "THIS UPSETS 
ME AS I WOULD HAVE GONE WITHOUT 
MY HUSBAND AND KIDS TO MY MOM'S 
HOUSE.
VERY CONTRADICTING."
IN AN ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN, FORD'S
OFFICE WROTE: "WE CONTINUE TO 
RELY ON ONTARIANS TO USE THEIR 
BEST JUDGMENT WHEN INTERACTING 
WITH INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE THEIR 
HOUSEHOLD."
ALL OF THIS PUT THE PROVINCE'S 
TOP DOCTOR IN A TOUGH SPOT 
TODAY, CLARIFYING THAT THE 
OFFICIAL ADVICE TO STAY IN YOUR 
HOUSEHOLD BUBBLE HAS NOT 
CHANGED.
>> HOLD THE FORT FOR NOW. 
>> Reporter: BUT MUDDIED 
MESSAGING WON'T MAKE THAT 
ALREADY CHALLENGING REQUEST ANY 
EASIER.
ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. 
>> Andrew: AFTER A HECTIC AND 
CONSTANTLY CHANGING WINTER 
SEMESTER, UNIVERSITIES ARE NOW 
MAKING PLANS FOR THE FALL, BUT 
SOME ARE ALREADY SAYING THEIR 
LECTURE HALLS WILL REMAIN MOSTLY
EMPTY.
AT LEAST THREE UNIVERSITIES IN 
MONTREAL, INCLUDING MCGILL, SAY 
THEIR FALL COURSES WILL BE 
OFFERED PRIMARILY ONLINE.
ON THE WEST COAST, BOTH UBC, 
SFU, ALSO THE UNIVERSITY OF 
VICTORIA SAY THEY ARE ALSO 
STICKING TO ONLINE COURSES COME 
SEPTEMBER, THOUGH WE ARE 
EXPECTING DETAILS FROM 
INDIVIDUAL FACULTIES OVER THE 
COMING DAYS.
>>> STARBUCKS CANADA SAYS IT 
PLANS TO REOPEN TWO THIRDS OF 
ITS STORES BY THE END OF THE 
WEEK WITH THE GOAL BEING TO OPEN
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM, 85%, 
BY THE END OF MAY.
CUSTOMERS WILL NEED TO WEAR 
MASKS, AND ALL EMPLOYEES WILL 
HAVE TO TAKE A TEMPERATURE CHECK
BEFORE STARTING THEIR SHIFTS AND
WEAR A MASK WHILE WORKING.
>>> IT MEANS A LOT FOR US TO BE 
HERE, TO HONOUR HER, AND IT'S --
IT KIND OF GIVES EVERYONE MAYBE 
A LITTLE BIT OF CLOSURE IN A 
WAY.
>> Andrew: MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE 
CAME OUT TO HONOUR 
SUB-LIEUTENANT ABBIGAIL 
COWBROUGH IN HALIFAX TODAY.
SHE'S ONE OF THE SIX MILITARY 
MEMBERS KILLED IN A HELICOPTER 
CRASH LAST MONTH.
THE 23-YEAR-OLD'S FAMILY WAS 
JOINED BY MILITARY AND CIVILIAN 
DIGNITARIES IN A POLICE-ESCORTED
MOTORCADE.
TWO FIRE ENGINES, SEVERAL 
MILITARY POLICE CARS AND MANY 
MOTORCYCLES FOLLOWED THE 
FAMILY'S VEHICLE.
>> Adrienne: NOW REMEMBER THAT 
ACCIDENT WAS JUST THE LATEST 
TRAGEDY FOR NOVA SCOTIA.
TODAY NEW DETAILS EMERGED ABOUT 
ANOTHER HORRIBLE NIGHT AND DAY 
FOR THE PROVINCE, THAT SHOCKING 
RAMPAGE LAST MONTH.
OVER THE COURSE OF 13 HOURS, A 
GUNMAN KILLED 22 PEOPLE BEFORE 
HE WAS KILLED BY POLICE.
ALONG THE WAY, HE SET FIRES, 
CREATED 17 CRIME SCENES, AND 
CAUSED CONFUSION BY DRIVING AN 
OFFICIAL-LOOKING POLICE VEHICLE.
MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN, AND TODAY
WE GOT SOME ANSWERS.
KAYLA HOUNSELL HAS THE DETAILS.
>> Reporter: NOVA SCOTIA RCMP 
SAY THEY NOW KNOW WHERE THE 
GUNMAN OBTAINED THE POLICE 
DECALS FOR HIS FAKE RCMP 
CRUISER.
INVESTIGATORS SAY THEY WERE 
CREATED WITHOUT THE PERMISSION 
OF THE BUSINESS OWNER, BUT THE 
OWNER AND THE PERSON WHO PRINTED
THEM ARE COOPERATING WITH 
POLICE.
>> I'M VERY CURIOUS WHAT THIS 
PERSON THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING 
AND FOR WHOM WHEN THEY AGREED TO
TAKE ON THIS TASK FOR THE 
SHOOTER.
>> Reporter: POLICE ALSO SAY 
THEY NOW BELIEVE THE GUNMAN USED
AN ACCELERANT TO SET FIRE TO 
VARIOUS HOMES AND VEHICLES.
WITNESSES TOLD THEM HE HAD A 
SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY OF GASOLINE.
HE ALSO HAD TWO SEMI-AUTOMATIC 
HANDGUNS AND TWO SEMI-AUTOMATIC 
RIFLES THE DAY OF THE RAMPAGE.
ONE OF THE GUNS HAS BEEN TRACED 
BACK TO CANADA.
THE REST ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE 
BEEN OBTAINED IN THE UNITED 
STATES.
POLICE STILL HAVEN'T SAID THE 
CALIBRE OF THE WEAPONS.
>> AND HOLD-BACK INFORMATION CAN
BE USED TO VET FUTURE STORIES 
OFFERED BY WITNESSES OR 
SUSPECTS. 
>> Reporter: THE RCMP IS ALSO 
NOW CONDUCTING A PSYCHOLOGICAL 
AUTOPSY ON GABRIEL WORTMAN. 
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 
INFORMATION PROVIDED BY 
WITNESSES ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL, 
THEIR LIFESTYLE, THEIR 
CIRCUMSTANCES, THEIR EMOTIONS, 
THEIR REACTION TO STRESS.
>> Reporter: THIS CRIMINAL 
PROFILER SAYS ALTHOUGH THE 
GUNMAN IS DEAD, THIS KIND OF 
PERSONALITY ANALYSIS COULD 
FINALLY PRODUCE THE MOTIVE.
>> IT'S I THINK CRITICAL TO AN 
INVESTIGATION SUCH AS THIS WHERE
THERE'S BEEN SUCH A -- AN IMPACT
TO THE PUBLIC, TO SO MANY PEOPLE
OF SUCH A SEVERE NATURE.
>> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS NOW 
SAY THEY WANT TO SPEAK WITH 
ANYONE WHO MAY HAVE HAD A 
CONFLICT WITH THE GUNMAN, 
WHETHER PROFESSIONAL OR 
PERSONAL, NO MATTER HOW LONG AGO
IT OCCURRED.
KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS, 
HALIFAX.
>> Andrew: WELL, NOW TO A STORY 
WITH A PLOT LINE YOU MIGHT FIND 
SURPRISING IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT'S ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL 
LANDLORD OPERATING IN TWO OF 
CANADA'S BIGGEST CITIES.
AND A WARNING FROM THE UNITED 
NATIONS.
WE'LL HAVE JOHN LANCASTER 
EXPLAIN.
>> Reporter: HOWARD DRAKMAN WENT
-- THUMBED THROUGH DOZENS OF 
NOTICES HE'S RECEIVED LATELY 
FROM AKELIUS, A SWEDISH-BASED 
CORPORATION THAT OWNS THE 
TORONTO BUILDING HE LIVES IN.
38 SO FAR, EACH WARNING OF AN 
IMPENDING DISRUPTION DUE TO 
MAINTENANCE OR RENOVATIONS.
>> SHUTTING DOWN HEAT, SHUTTING 
DOWN WATER, COMING INTO THE 
SUITES, CHECKING FIRE ALARMS, 
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IT'S BEEN VERY INTERRUPTIVE.
>> Reporter: AKELIUS OWNS ABOUT 
3,500 RENTAL UNITS IN TORONTO, 
3,900 IN MONTREAL.
THE UN REPORT HASN'T BEEN MADE 
PUBLIC, BUT LEILANI FARHA SAYS 
SHE'S CONCERNED WITH THE WAY 
AKELIUS OPERATES.
>> TENANTS TOLD ME THAT 
RENOVATIONS WOULD GET SO UNRULY 
THAT TENANTS WERE BEING FELT 
THAT THEY WERE BEING SORT OF 
FORCED OUT, AND ONCE A UNIT IS 
EMPTY, MUCH EASIER TO RAISE THAT
RENT RIGHT UP THERE. 
>> Reporter: AKELIUS RESIDENTIAL
HAS 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE 
REPORT.
IT INSISTS IT ONLY RENOVATES 
VACANT UNITS AND ITS UPGRADING 
HOUSING STOCK.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] PROVIDE 
BETTER LIVING.
AND THOSE BUILDINGS PRESENT 
OPPORTUNITIES THAT REQUIRES 
RENOVATIONS AND MORE INVESTMENTS
IN THE BUILDING.
>> Reporter: SOME TENANTS 
COMPLAIN THAT COMES WITH A HIGH 
COST FOR THEM TOO.
>> ACTUALLY, THERE WAS 
RENOVATION GOING ON OUTSIDE, SO 
THE DRILLING WAS AT MY HEAD.
THERE WAS RENOVATION GOING ON ON
THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR SPACE, 
BECAUSE THEY WERE RENOVATING A 
UNIT THERE, AND THEN THERE WAS A
RENOVATION GOING ON ACROSS THE 
HALL IN THE ELEVATOR.
>> Reporter: THE UN SAYS AKELIUS
ISN'T BREAKING ANY LAWS AND 
WANTS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO 
ENSURE CANADIANS HAVE ACCESS TO 
ADEQUATE HOUSING IN A TIGHT 
RENTAL MARKET.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT'S 
REVIEWING THE REPORT AND WILL 
WORK WITH PROVINCES ON THE 
ISSUE.
JOHN LANCASTER, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: THE U.S. HAS NOW 
HIT ANOTHER TERRIBLE NUMBER, 
MORE THAN 80,000 DEATHS RELATED 
TO COVID-19.
>> THIS OUTBREAK IS THE HIDDEN 
ENEMY.
>> Adrienne: UP NEXT ON "THE 
NATIONAL," HOW THE WHITE HOUSE 
IS TRYING TO KEEP THE SITUATION 
UNDER CONTROL.
>> Andrew: PLUS, BRACING FOR A 
NEW KIND OF HEALTH CARE CRISIS.
>> WELL, I'M A PATIENT GUY, BUT 
IT'S FRUSTRATING.
I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON 
WITH THIS STORY.
>> Andrew: FROM SURGERY BACKLOGS
TO ROUTINE APPOINTMENTS, HOW OUR
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM NEEDS TO 
ADAPT YET AGAIN.
>> Adrienne: AND LATER, A POEM 
FOR THESE TRYING TIMES.
>> BEAUTY AND PERIL COME 
TWINNED.
>> Adrienne: GEORGE ELLIOTT 
CLARKE SHARES HIS WORDS WITH US.
WE'RE BACK IN TWO.
>> PEOPLE SHOULD CONTINUE TO 
AVOID PUBLIC TRANSPORT WHEREVER 
POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE MUST 
MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING.
>> Adrienne: THOSE WORDS FROM 
THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER AS HE
RELEASED A PLAN FOR REOPENING 
THE U.K. EARLIER TODAY, BUT THE 
PERIL OF IT WAS UNDERLINED 
UNDERGROUND.
IN LONDON'S TUBE, WHERE 
SCATTERED MASKS ASIDE, COMMUTERS
SEEMED TO BE BACK IN CLOSE 
CONTACT.
THE THREAT OF A RE-SURGING VIRUS
IS ALREADY PLAYING OUT.
SOUTH KOREA PLANS TO REOPEN HIGH
-- SHELVED PLANS TO REOPEN HIGH 
SCHOOLS AFTER A NEW CLUSTER 
EMERGED LINKED TO THE SLOW 
EASING OF ITS LOCKDOWN.
AND SIX NEW CASES HAVE BEEN 
DISCOVERED WHERE THE VIRUS FIRST
EMERGED, WUHAN, CHINA.
THE FIRST SIGNS OF THE DISEASE 
THERE SINCE EARLY LAST MONTH.
>>> ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, 
COVID-19 DEATHS HAVE NOW PASSED 
80,000, AND DONALD TRUMP'S INNER
CIRCLE IS SCRAMBLING TO DEAL 
WITH ITS OWN OUTBREAK.
STILL, AS KATIE SIMPSON TELLS 
US, THE PRESIDENT INSISTS HEALTH
AND SAFETY PROTOCOLS DID NOT 
BREAK DOWN AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> Reporter: SAFETY PRECAUTIONS 
AT THE WHITE HOUSE, INCLUDING 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS AT THE DOOR, 
HAVE NOT BEEN ENOUGH TO KEEP 
CORONAVIRUS OUT.
AND SO MOST WEST WING STAFFERS 
WERE ORDERED TODAY TO START 
WEARING MASKS.
NOT THE PRESIDENT, THOUGH, WHO 
DENIED THERE'S A BREAKDOWN IN 
THE SYSTEM MEANT TO PROTECT HIM 
>> President Donald Trump: 
THAT'S NOT BREAKING DOWN.
IT CAN HAPPEN.
IT'S A HIDDEN ENEMY.
REMEMBER THAT, IT'S THE HIDDEN 
ENEMY, SO THINGS HAPPEN. 
>> Reporter: TWO WHITE HOUSE 
STAFFERS, INCLUDING THE PRESS 
SECRETARY FOR THE 
VICE-PRESIDENT, TESTED POSITIVE 
LAST WEEK.
>> EVEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE THEY 
HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET 
THIS UNDER CONTROL AND KEEP 
THINGS OPERATING ON A DAILY 
BASIS.
AND AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, THEY 
HAVE BASICALLY UNLIMITED 
RESOURCES.
>> Reporter: MIKE PENCE IS NOT 
IN SELF-ISOLATION, UNLIKE THREE 
SENIOR OFFICIALS WHO WERE 
EXPOSED, INCLUDING DR. ANTHONY 
FAUCI.
IT RAISES NEW CONCERNS ABOUT 
WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE PENCE IS 
SENDING TO THE PUBLIC.
>> YOU SEE MIKE PENCE GOING BACK
TO WORK AS IF NOTHING HAD 
HAPPENED, I THINK THAT'S ALMOST 
A LICENCE TO ENGAGE IN DANGEROUS
ACTIVITY YOURSELF. 
>> Reporter: OUTSIDE OF THE 
WHITE HOUSE, IT IS FAR FROM 
BUSINESS AS USUAL.
WASHINGTON'S MAYOR OPENED A NEW 
400-BED COVID-19 FIELD HOSPITAL.
>> WE CONSIDER THIS SITE OUR 
INSURANCE POLICY.
WE HOPE THAT WE WILL NEVER HAVE 
TO USE IT, BUT IT IS HERE.
>> Reporter: THE CAPITAL IS NOT 
YET READY TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO
REOPEN, EVEN IF THE PRESIDENT 
SAYS NOW IS THE TIME TO START 
BECAUSE OF ADVANCES IN TESTING 
CAPABILITY.
>> President Donald Trump: WE 
HAVE MET THE MOMENT, AND WE HAVE
PREVAILED.
AS FAR AS AMERICANS GETTING A 
TEST, THEY SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO
GET A TEST RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP HAS 
PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED THAT ANYONE 
WHO NEEDS A TEST CAN GET ONE, 
AND IT WAS EASILY PROVEN TO BE 
FALSE.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME THE 
WHITE HOUSE IS TRYING TO ARGUE 
IS THAT IT'S JUST EARMARKED A 
BILLION DOLLARS IN AID TO HELP 
STATES GET MORE EQUIPMENT.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, 
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: NOW THERE IS COVID 
CONFUSION IN RUSSIA TOO.
TODAY THE COUNTRY RECORDED ITS 
LARGEST NUMBER OF INFECTIONS IN 
A SINGLE DAY, MORE THAN 11,000, 
BUT PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN 
ALSO SAID IT'S TIME TO START 
EASING THE LOCKDOWN.
THE CBC'S CHRIS BROWN TAKES US 
THROUGH THE MIXED MESSAGES.
>> Reporter: RUSSIANS GOT 
CONFLICTING MESSAGES TODAY ABOUT
THE CORONAVIRUS.
INFECTIONS ARE SOARING, AND YET 
AFTER SIX WEEKS OF BEING STUCK 
INSIDE, THEY WILL SOON BE FREE.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN SAYS 
THE NATIONAL SO-CALLED 
NON-WORKING DAYS WILL END.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
AND WORK IN CONSTRUCTION AND 
MOST OTHER SECTORS SHOULD BE 
RESUMED.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
FANTASTIC, WE WERE OUT OF MONEY.
WE'LL GO BACK TO WORK, RELIEVED 
COUPLE TOLD OUR PRODUCER.
BUT OTHERS WERE MORE CAUTIOUS.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
I THINK THE ISOLATION MEASURES 
SHOULD BE EXTENDED UNTIL THE END
OF THE MONTH, OR MAYBE EVEN THE 
END OF JUNE, SHE SAID.
PUTIN'S REASONING APPEARS TO BE 
THAT RUSSIA HAS ADDED TENS OF 
THOUSANDS OF HOSPITAL BEDS SO IT
CAN COPE WITH NEW INFECTIONS AS 
THE ECONOMY REVS UP AGAIN.
BUT, IT'S HARD TO SEE HOW MORE 
OPENNESS SQUARES WITH THE 
WORSENING INFECTIOUS SITUATION 
THAT EVEN STATE TV NO LONGER 
TRIES TO DOWNPLAY.
RUSSIA NOW HAS THE THIRD-MOST 
CASES IN THE WORLD.
NEWS OF THE WEEK SHOWED HEALTH 
CARE WORKERS GRIEVING OVER THE 
COFFIN OF A DEAD DOCTOR.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO FRIGHTENED 
AND DISTRAUGHT AS I AM NOW, SAID
THE DOCTOR.
INDEED, RUSSIA'S DEATH RATE MAY 
BE UP TO THREE TIMES HIGHER THAN
THE 2,000 OR SO OFFICIAL 
FATALITIES, ACCORDING TO THE 
"MOSCOW TIMES."
IT REPORTS IF A PATIENT HAS THE 
VIRUS BUT DIES FROM, SAY, 
PNEUMONIA, THAT'S USUALLY WHAT 
DOCTORS LIST AS THE CAUSE OF 
DEATH.
FOR PUTIN, THERE MAY BE GOOD 
POLITICS IN MOVING TO LIFT THE 
LOCKDOWN NOW.
[Speaking Foreign Language]
PUTIN HAS TAKEN ON THE ROLE OF 
LIBERATOR, POLITICAL ANALYST 
SAID TO INDEPENDENT TV, AND HE 
CAN SHIFT THE BAD NEWS TO OTHERS
IF BAD NEWS FOLLOWS.
IT MAY ALSO BE THAT AS EUROPE 
REOPENS, RUSSIA DOESN'T WANT TO 
GET LEFT BEHIND.
CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, 
VANCOUVER.
>> Adrienne: WE HAVE TO TAKE A 
QUICK BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME 
BACK, A LOOK AT WHO IS GETTING 
SICK IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW 
THOSE ON THE FRONT LINES FEEL 
ABOUT THEIR GREATER RISK.
>> Andrew: BUT FIRST, TWO MONTHS
AFTER THE PANDEMIC WAS FIRST 
DECLARED, WE'RE TACKLING SOME 
BIG-PICTURE QUESTIONS WITH OUR 
PANEL OF DOCTORS TONIGHT, 
INCLUDING WHAT OUR NEW NORMAL 
HAS BROUGHT US.
THE BAD AND THE GOOD.
THAT'S NEXT.
*
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
PROVINCES.
WE WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
BUSINESSES.
WE WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
CANADIANS THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT
TIME.
>> Andrew: IT HAS NOW BEEN TWO 
LONG MONTHS SINCE THE WORLD 
HEALTH ORGANIZATION DECLARED A 
GLOBAL PANDEMIC, AND JUST THINK 
OF HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED.
BACK THEN MAYBE THE BIGGEST 
CONCERN FOR SOME FOLKS WAS THEIR
TRAVEL PLANS.
ON MARCH 11, CANADA REPORTED 
JUST 118 CASES OF COVID-19 AND 
ONE DEATH.
NOW NEARLY 70,000 CASES AND MORE
THAN 5,000 LIVES LOST.
THREE MILLION JOBS 
WIPED OUT BY PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES, MILLIONS MORE PEOPLE 
HAD THEIR HOURS CUT.
IN RESPONSE, GOVERNMENTS HAVE 
UNLEASHED BILLIONS IN STIMULUS 
MONEY, AND THE ISOLATION OF 
PHYSICAL DISTANCING HAS BECOME 
THE NEW NORMAL.
SO AT THIS TWO-MONTH MARK WE 
WANT TO TAKE STOCK OF WHAT WE'VE
BEEN THROUGH, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED
OR HAVE YET TO AND WHAT LIES 
AHEAD.
SO LET'S BRING IN DR. ISAAC 
BOGOCH, AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE 
SPECIALIST AND DR. SAMANTHA NUTT
A PHYSICIAN WHOSE WORK HAS TAKEN
HER TO SOME OF THE MOST 
DEVASTATED REGIONS OF THE WORLD,
ALSO THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE 
DIRECTOR OF WAR CHILD CANADA.
HELLO TO THE TWO OF YOU.
DR. NUTT, MAYBE I'LL START WITH 
YOU.
BUT I'LL HAVE BOTH OF YOU ANSWER
THIS QUESTION.
TWO MONTHS IN, WHAT HAVE WE 
ACCOMPLISHED?
>> ANDREW, WE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT 
WE SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH, WHICH 
WAS REALLY TO FLATTEN THE CURVE,
TO NOT OVERWHELM OUR I.C.U.S, TO
ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO BECAME 
SICK WITH THIS VIRUS WERE ABLE 
TO TAKE CARE, AND SO WE DID DO 
THAT.
WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID WHAT WAS
HAPPENING IN ITALY.
WE SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED 
THAT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THIS TRAGEDY 
HAS TAKEN A TERRIBLE TOLL ON OUR
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES, AND 
SO THERE ARE WAYS WHERE WE 
REALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, DESPITE 
WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, ALSO 
MISSED THE MARK.
>> Andrew: DR. BOGOCH?
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I MEAN, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A 
LOT OF THIS MAJOR LOCKDOWN THAT 
WE'VE -- THAT WE'RE GOING 
THROUGH HAS REALLY BEEN TO 
PREVENT THE OVERWHELMING OF OUR 
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, AND 
THANKFULLY WE HAVE DONE SO.
OF COURSE DR. NUTT JUST POINTS 
OUT A FEW AREAS THAT WE NEED TO 
IMPROVE ON, BUT IN GENERAL WE 
WEATHERED THE STORM AND HAVE 
WEATHERED THIS STORM IN PRETTY 
WELL SO FAR.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT THERE YET, 
BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T 
OVERWHELMED OUR HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM TO DATE.
>> Andrew: AND YOU TALK ABOUT, 
DR. BOGOCH, THE FACT THAT WE'RE 
NOT THERE YET.
THERE'S A RESEARCH COMPONENT TO 
ALL OF THIS.
IN YOUR MIND, WHAT ARE THE BIG 
GAPS IN OUR KNOWLEDGE TODAY?
>> YEAH, THERE'S SOME HUGE GAPS.
CERTAINLY IMMUNITY IS ONE OF 
THEM.
FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECOVERED 
FROM THIS INFECTION, TO WHAT 
EXTENT ARE THEY IMMUNE AND FOR 
HOW LONG DOES THAT IMMUNITY 
LAST?
I THINK WE NEED A MUCH BETTER 
UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT EXACTLY IS
THE ROLE OF TRULY ASYMPTOMATIC 
PEOPLE IN TRANSMITTING THIS 
INFECTION VERSUS PEOPLE WITH 
MILD SYMPTOMS VERSUS PEOPLE THAT
HAVE WHAT WE CALL 
PRE-SYMPTOMATIC SPREAD OF THIS 
INFECTION, AND OF COURSE THE 
ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS WHAT ARE
THE BEST TREATMENTS FOR THIS, 
HOW DO WE DEVELOP AN EFFECTIVE 
AND DURABLE VACCINE FOR THIS 
INFECTION.
SO THOSE ARE THE KEY ISSUES THAT
I SEE.
>> Andrew: RIGHT, AND DR. NUTT, 
I'M SEEING YOU NODDING YOUR 
HEAD.
FROM A MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT
IS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET THE 
ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS?
AND I ALSO WONDER, WHAT ARE THE 
BARRIERS TOO?
>> WELL, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT
DR. BOGOCH HAS JUST SAID IS 
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
WE STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW IN THIS
COUNTRY HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE 
-- EVEN ROUGHLY HOW MANY PEOPLE 
WERE ACTUALLY INFECTED, HAVE 
BEEN INFECTED WITH COVID-19, MAY
STILL BE INFECTED WITH COVID-19
BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS TO 
OUR TESTING, ESPECIALLY EARLY 
ON.
SO KNOWING WHO IS IMMUNE, WHAT 
IMMUNITY MEANS.
SO ONE OF THE WAYS YOU GET THE 
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS TO 
CONDUCT SEROLOGICAL TESTING, TO 
DO ANTIBODY TESTING TO 
UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE MAY 
HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED AND 
WHAT THAT EXPOSURE MEANS IN 
TERMS OF PREVENTING THE FUTURE 
TRANSMISSION OF PEOPLE NOT 
BECOMING SICK IF THEY ARE 
EXPOSED AGAIN.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER 
TO THAT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES
FROM ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD.
FOR EXAMPLE, NEW YORK, THEIR 
PUBLIC HEALTH AGENTS DID A 
SEROLOGICAL ANALYSIS, A SAMPLE, 
AND THEY FOUND THAT ABOUT 20%, 
ACTUALLY 21% OF PEOPLE IN NEW 
YORK CITY HAD ALREADY HAD SOME 
DEGREE OF INFECTION WITH 
COVID-19.
WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF 
WHETHER THEY CAN GET REINFECTED 
IS STILL AN OPEN QUESTION, BUT 
WE NEED ANSWERS FOR THAT IN 
CANADA, AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET 
SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS IS TO 
CONDUCT THOSE KINDS OF STUDIES.
>> Andrew: MORE TESTING, MORE 
TESTING, MORE TESTING.
DR. BOGOCH, THOUGH, VACCINE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER WORD AT
THE TIP OF EVERYONE'S TONGUES.
ARE WE ALL STILL IN AGREEMENT 
THAT THAT IS KIND OF THE 
ULTIMATE END GAME HERE?
>> IT REALLY IS.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVE AN EFFECTIVE 
AND DURABLE VACCINE, THIS IS OUR
WAY OUT OF THE MESS THAT WE'RE 
IN RIGHT NOW.
OF COURSE WE KNOW IT TAKES TIME 
TO DEVELOP, BUT THERE'S SOME 
WONDERFUL VACCINES THAT ARE 
UNDER DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE 
GOING TO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD 
RESULTS AVAILABLE AS EARLY AS 
JUNE WITH SOME OF THESE VACCINES
THAT ARE IN A MORE ADVANCED 
PHASE.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS HOW 
EFFECTIVE THOSE VACCINES WILL 
BE, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE 
VACCINES, IF THEY ARE EFFECTIVE,
IF WE'LL NEED TO HAVE MULTIPLE 
VACCINATIONS OVER TIME OR IF ONE
VACCINE WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND 
PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR A LASTING
PERIOD OF TIME.
>> Andrew: YOU KNOW, IT'S 
INTERESTING, WHEN I THINK ABOUT 
HOW TRANSFORMATIVE THIS PANDEMIC
HAS BEEN, I MEAN, IT'S NOT 
STRICTLY SPEAKING ALL BAD.
I THINK OF THE ADVANCES IN 
VIRTUAL MEDICINE, THE FACT THAT 
SO MANY FOLKS CAN WORK FROM HOME
AND DO IT WELL.
DR. NUTT, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE 
NEW NORMAL, I MEAN, WALK ME 
THROUGH, IN YOUR MIND, THE GOOD,
THE BAD, THE UGLY.
>> ON THE GOOD SIDE, I THINK AS 
A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER WE HAVE 
LEARNED TO INNOVATE.
THERE WERE VERY FEW ADOPTERS OF 
VIRTUAL MEDICINE PRIOR TO 
COVID-19.
NOW MORE THAN 70% OF PHYSICIANS 
IN CANADA ARE USING SOME FORM OF
VIRTUAL MEDICINE, MAKING 
THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO THEIR 
PATIENTS IN A LONGITUDINAL WAY 
IN A MORE ORGANIC WAY, WHICH I 
THINK IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT.
IT HELPS KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE 
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, HAS REALLY
HELPED TO STOP OVERLOADING OUR 
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
I HOPE THOSE KIND OF 
WORK-FROM-HOME LESSONS, EVEN FOR
DOCTORS, THAT THOSE WILL 
CONTINUE TO APPLY.
>> Andrew: DR. BOGOCH, I'LL GIVE
YOU THE LAST WORD, SAME 
QUESTION.
YOUR PORTRAIT OF THE NEW NORMAL?
>> CERTAINLY FROM THE BAD AND 
UGLY SIDE, I'M REALLY WORRIED 
ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, AND I THINK
THIS IS GOING TO BE A DRIVER OF 
DEPTHS OF DESPAIR RELATED TO 
SUICIDE FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND
OVERDOSE AND DEPRESSION AND 
ANXIETY THAT CAN RESULT FROM 
THIS, ESPECIALLY EXACERBATED BY 
SOME OF THE ECONOMIC WOES THAT 
MANY PEOPLE ARE FEELING.
SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT 
THAT ASPECT AS WELL.
>> Andrew: DOCTORS, THAT'S ALL 
THE TIME WE HAVE FOR THIS, BUT 
WE WILL HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES 
TO TAKE STOCK GOING FORWARD.
DR. NUTT, DR. BOGOCH, THANKS SO 
MUCH.
>> THANKS, ANDREW. 
>> THANK YOU.
>> Andrew: AND SO WE ARE GOING 
TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION 
WITH OUR DOCTORS EVERY NIGHT.
ALSO TAKING YOUR QUESTIONS, AND 
THIS FRIDAY WE WANT TO HEAR FROM
COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY STUDENTS,
WHAT ARE YOUR COVID CONCERNS 
REGARDING YOUR EDUCATION?
YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH US ON 
INSTAGRAM, MESSAGE US DIRECTLY 
AT CBCTHENATIONAL OR SEND US AN 
EMAIL AT THENATIONAL@cbc.ca.
>> Adrienne: WHEN WE COME BACK, 
FIXING THE BACKLOGS CAUSED BY 
THIS CRISIS.
HOW THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS 
PREPPING FOR A NEW SET OF 
CHALLENGES.
PLUS . . . 
>> THERE IS A SENSE OF FEAR, AND
YOU'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH 
THE PUBLIC.
>> Andrew: A LOOK AT WHO THE 
VIRUS IS TARGETING AND WHAT'S 
BEING DONE TO P
TWO FO
>> Adrienne: WELCOME BACK.
AS PROVINCES ROLL OUT PLANS TO 
LIFT CERTAIN COVID-19 
RESTRICTIONS, A NEW POTENTIAL 
HEALTH CARE CRISIS IS ALREADY 
WAITING IN THE WINGS.
A MASSIVE BACKLOG OF SURGERIES 
AND PROCEDURES.
VIK ADHOPIA NOW ON A SYSTEM 
TRYING TO ADAPT BEFORE THAT WAVE
HITS.
>> Reporter: RICHARD GHERKE'S 
WORSENING HIP MAKES EVERY STEP 
PAINFUL. 
>> SOMETHING LIKE A POINTY BLADE
OF A JACKKNIFE INSIDE, PRESSING 
ON IT WHEN I BEAR WEIGHT ON IT.
>> Reporter: GHERKE WAITED TWO 
YEARS TO SEE AN ORTHOPAEDIC 
SURGEON, ONLY TO HAVE THAT 
APPOINTMENT CANCELLED BY THE 
PANDEMIC. 
>> I'M A PATIENT GUY, BUT IT'S 
FRUSTRATING.
I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON 
WITH THIS STORY.
I KNOW THERE'S MORE THAN LIKELY 
HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF THEM. 
>> Reporter: MOST NON-URGENT 
SURGERIES HAVE BEEN CANCELLED IN
CANADA, EVERYTHING FROM HIPS TO 
CATARACTS.
SO A NEW WAIT LIST CRISIS IS 
BREWING.
>> SO THIS IS DATA THAT WE GOT 
FROM -- 
>> Reporter: THIS SURGEON IS 
URGING PROVINCES TO ADOPT A 
NOT-SO-RADICAL APPROACH TO 
GETTING THROUGH THE BACKLOG.
INSTEAD OF PATIENTS REFERRED TO 
A SPECIFIC SURGEON FOR THEIR 
OPERATION, HE PROPOSES A BANK 
TELLER APPROACH, WHERE PATIENTS 
GO INTO A SINGLE LINEUP FOR THE 
NEXT AVAILABLE SURGEON, EVEN IF 
THEY'RE IN A DIFFERENT HOSPITAL 
OR EVEN CITY. 
>> IMAGINE YOU'RE WAITING FOR A 
HIP REPLACEMENT BECAUSE YOU 
CAN'T WALK AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE 
IN A QUEUE THAT 13 MONTHS OR 14 
MONTHS WHERE YOU NEED TO WAIT 
FOR YOUR HIP REPLACEMENT INSTEAD
OF WAITING SIX WEEKS, WHICH 
MIGHT BE THE NEXT AVAILABLE 
APPOINTMENT FOR SOME OTHER 
EQUALLY QUALIFIED AND EXCELLENT 
SURGEON.
>> Reporter: FAMILY PHYSICIANS 
ALSO EXPECT TO SEE A FLOOD OF 
PATIENTS.
PHYSICAL DISTANCING AND STRICT 
HYGIENE STANDARDS WILL MAKE THAT
EVEN HARDER.
THIS PHYSICIAN HAS CO-AUTHORED A
FIVE-STAGE PLAN FOR FELLOW 
DOCTORS TO BEGIN SEEING PATIENTS
GRADUALLY, STARTING WITH 
HIGH-RISK CASES, LESS URGENT 
MATTERS, SUCH AS SCREENING AND 
CHRONIC DISEASE WILL HAVE TO 
WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
>> SO WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE 
SURE THAT IT'S ONLY THE VERY, 
VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO 
ARE COMING INTO THE OFFICE, 
WHEREAS MOST PEOPLE SHOULD 
CONTINUE TO GET THEIR CARE 
VIRTUALLY, EITHER BY PHONE OR BY
VIDEO.
>> Reporter: IN THE HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM ALREADY STRETCHED, THESE 
CHANGING TIMES REQUIRE A CHANGE 
IN EXPECTATIONS.
VIK ADHOPIA, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Andrew: AND STILL AHEAD ON 
"THE NATIONAL", UNDERSTANDING 
WHO IS MOST AT RISK FROM THE 
VIRUS IN CANADA AND WHY SOME OF 
THOSE MOST VULNERABLE OFTEN 
CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY HOME.
>>> BUT FIRST, ON THE DAY 
CANADIAN DEATHS DUE TO COVID-19 
TOPPED 5,000, A REMINDER THAT 
CBC NEWS IS COMMITTED TO TELLING
THEIR STORIES.
IT'S A SERIES WE'RE CALLING 
"LIVES REMEMBERED" AND TONIGHT 
MAY MIKHAIL SHARES MEMORIES OF 
HER MOTHER.
>> Reporter: MY NAME IS MAY 
MIKHAIL, MY MOTHER ISABELLE 
MIKHAIL DIED OF COVID MARCH 18.
IF YOU ASK ANYONE ABOUT MY 
MOTHER, THEY WOULD SAY WHAT THEY
REMEMBERED ABOUT MY MOTHER.
THEY WOULD SAY IT WAS HER 
COOKING.
SHE, LATER IN LIFE, DEVELOPED 
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AND HAD TO 
BE FED.
SHE WOULD FORGET TO EAT, BUT 
MOST OF HER LIFE MY MOM WAS THE 
ONE THAT WAS DOING THE FEEDING 
AND THE ENTERTAINING, GATHERING 
FAMILY AROUND THE TABLE.
WE MOVED TO LETHBRIDGE IN THE 
LATE '60S, ALBERTA, FROM CAIRO, 
EGYPT VIA EUROPE, AND YOU KNOW, 
THOSE EGYPTIAN SPECIALITIES 
BECAME VERY EPIC IN OUR 
COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS REALLY 
WHAT BROUGHT US TOGETHER.
SHE MADE FALAFEL WHEN WE CAME TO
CANADA AND WAS INTRODUCING THEM 
TO A LOT OF FRIENDS.
MY MOTHER, HAD SHE BEEN BORN IN 
A DIFFERENT TIME, PROBABLY WOULD
HAVE GONE TO UNIVERSITY, HAD A 
CAREER, BUT THAT WASN'T TO BE.
SHE MADE THE BEST OF IT.
SHE COPED WITH LIFE IN CANADA 
VERY WELL.
THEY WERE VERY GRATEFUL TO BE 
HERE.
SHE DID PUT TOGETHER A COOKBOOK 
THAT MY -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS HER 
DREAM TO HAVE THAT PUBLISHED, 
AND MY SISTER AND I WILL DO THAT
SOME DAY FOR HER.
MORE THAN ANYTHING, I AM REALLY 
GRATEFUL THAT MY PARTNER AND I 
WERE ABLE TO BE WITH MOM THOSE 
LAST DAYS OF HER LIFE, AND WE 
WERE ABLE TO SAY GOOD-BYE.
>> Andrew: WE ARE TRYING TO TELL
AS MANY OF THESE STORIES AS WE 
CAN.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ONE 
WITH US, MEMORIES OF A LOVED ONE
YOU'VE LOST, REACH OUT TO US AT 
COVID@cbc.ca.
SUBSCRIBE WHEREVRREVER YOU GET YOUR 
PODCASTS.
>> Adrienne: WE KNOW THE 
MAJORITY OF CANADA'S COVID-19 
DEAD HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, BUT OTHER 
GROUPS ARE VULNERABLE.
TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, TORONTO HAD 
THE FIRST DEATH IN ITS SHELTER 
SYSTEM, AND OF COURSE ALL THE 
ESSENTIAL WORKERS AT RISK ON THE
FRONT LINE.
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS LOOKS AT 
WHAT'S BEING DONE TO PROTECT 
THEM.
>> Reporter: EMERGENCY ROOMS 
WERE BRACING FOR IT, THE DREADED
SURGE.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT NO ONE IS 
BREATHING EASY YET.
>> WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS.
WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THERE'S
STILL NEW CASES HAPPENING.
PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING SICK 
FROM THIS VIRUS. 
>> Reporter: THE ELDERLY FROM 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES MAKE UP 
MOST OF NEW COVID-19 CASES, BUT 
THERE ARE OTHER VULNERABLE 
POCKETS TOO, INCLUDING ESSENTIAL
WORKERS WHO CAN'T WORK FROM 
HOME.
TORONTO'S TRANSIT COMMISSION HAS
REPORTED NEARLY 40 CASES.
SARIF ALI IS ONE OF THEM.
HE SPENT 12 DAYS IN HOSPITAL.
>> I WOULD GET SEVERE HEADACHES 
AND VOMITING.
>> Reporter: WEEKS AFTER HIS 
LAST SHIFT OUT OF THIS GARAGE, 
HE'S FINALLY ON HIS FEET, BUT 
STILL FEELS UNSTEADY. 
>> I THINK I WILL ALWAYS BE ON 
THE BACK OF MY MIND THROUGH THIS
EXPERIENCE, AND I HAVE SHAKEN.
I HAVE SHAKEN A LOT.
>> Reporter: SOCIAL DISTANCING 
HAS HELPED FLATTEN THE CURVE, 
BUT 40% OF NEW CASES IN TORONTO 
ARE CONNECTED TO INFECTIONS IN 
THE COMMUNITY AND THE WORKPLACE,
AND SPREAD TO HOUSEHOLDS.
AND THE FRONT LINES ARE HIT 
HARD.
AT LEAST 10 AIRPORT LIMO 
DRIVERS, WHO WORKED AT TORONTO'S
PEARSON AIRPORT, HAVE DIED SINCE
THE START OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND HUNDREDS OF GROCERY STAFF 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE TESTED 
POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
TEMPERATURE CHECKS AND MASKS ARE
MANDATORY FOR WORKERS AND 
CUSTOMERS AT SOME STORES, BUT 
NEW CASES ARE STILL CROPPING UP.
>> IT TAKES A LOT OUT OF YOU TO 
GO IN EVERY DAY.
>> Reporter: HELEN STETHOPOLOS 
WORKS FOR A MAJOR GROCERY CHAIN.
>> THERE'S A SENSE OF HERE AND 
YOU'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH 
THE PUBLIC, AND YOU JUST DON'T 
KNOW.
THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN DOES 
WEIGH ON YOU FOR SURE. 
>> Reporter: OTHERS HAVE NO 
RETREAT AT ALL.
OUTBREAKS AT HOMELESS SHELTERS 
HAVE FORCED MORE PEOPLE ON THE 
STREETS AND INTO HOSPITALS. 
>> YOU WANT A MASK AT ALL?
>> Reporter: THIS OUTREACH GROUP
NOW DELIVERS MASKS WITH MEALS.
>> A LOT OF THE DROP-INS ARE 
CLOSED OR AT REDUCED HOURS OR 
SO, SO IT'S TOUGH TO GET IN AND 
WATCH YOUR HANDS.
IT'S TOUGH TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL 
DISTANCING WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE 
FOUR WALLS THAT YOU CAN ISOLATE 
IN.
>> Reporter: AS FOR THE TTC, 
IT'S PROVIDING STAFF WITH 
PROTECTIVE GEAR AND IS 
DISINFECTING MORE OFTEN.
AND ALI GOT TESTED FOR COVID 
AGAIN TO MAKE SURE HE'S CLEAR TO
GO BACK TO WORK.
IT CAME BACK NEGATIVE, BUT HE'S 
ALREADY AFRAID OF GETTING SICK 
AGAIN.
>> MAKING SURE I'M OKAY TO GO 
BACK TO WORK PHYSICALLY AND 
EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT MENTALLY, 
I'M WORRYING ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: AND THE FEAR IS 
WHAT HAPPENS AS RESTRICTIONS 
EASE AND THIS SO-CALLED LULL IS 
OVER?
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: WHEN WE COME BACK, 
FINDING THE RIGHT WORDS TO 
DESCRIBE THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
>> THE CLOUDS HAVE LIGHT RESULT.
>> Andrew: WE GIVE TONIGHT'S 
FINAL WORD TO A FORMER POET 
LAUREATE.
BUT FIRST . . . 
>> SE RENITY NOW!
>> Andrew: TRIBUTES ARE POURING 
IN FOR JERRY STILLER, PROBABLY 
BEST KNOWN FOR PLAYING 
CANTANKEROUS FATHER FIGURES LIKE
FRANK
COSTANZA IN "SEINFELD." 
>> THE TRADITION OF FESTIVUS 
BEGINS WITH THE AIRING OF 
GRIEVANCES.
>> Andrew: AND ARTHUR SPOONER IN
"THE KING OF QUEENS."
>> I'M NOT MOVING, AND IF YOU 
FORCE ME, I WILL WEAR ONLY 
UNDERWEAR TO DINNER.
>> Andrew: BUT HIS CAREER 
STARTED LONG BEFORE THAT, 
APPEARING IN VARIETY SHOWS IN 
THE 1960S ALONGSIDE HIS WIFE AND
COMEDY PARTNER ANNE MEARA.
>> LANCE, YOU'RE MOISTENING MY 
KNUCKLES.
>> Andrew: HE WORKED WITH HIS 
SON TOO, ACTOR/DIRECTOR BEN 
STILLER IN "ZOOLANDER". 
>> I LOVE THAT KID.
I LOVE HIM.
>> Andrew: IT WAS BEN WHO 
ANNOUNCED HIS FATHER'S DEATH ON 
TWITTER TODAY.
HE WAS A GREAT DAD AND 
GRANDFATHER AND THE MOST 
DEDICATED HUSBAND TO ANNE FOR 
ABOUT 62 YEARS.
HE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED.
JERRY STILLER WAS 92.
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>> Andrew: WE'D LIKE TO DO 
SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN 
PLACE OF "TONIGHT'S MOMENT."
LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE, FORMER 
CANADIAN POET LAUREATE GEORGE 
ELLIOTT CLARK IS SPENDING MORE 
TIME AT HOME, BUT THAT HAS NOT 
SLOWED HIM DOWN. 
>> Adrienne: HE'S WRITTEN A NEW 
POEM ABOUT THE COVID-19 CRISIS, 
AND HE AGREED TO READ IT FOR US 
FROM HIS HOME OFFICE IN TORONTO.
SO WE'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT 
TONIGHT.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR MAY 
11.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
>> WEATHERING, SPRING BRINGS THE
DASH AND SPLASH OF RAIN TO LEAVE
US BOLSTERED.
ALL THE TREES AND HOMES CAN BE 
ADORNED AGAIN, OUR FACES BARED 
TO KISS EACH BREEZE.
WINTER'S WOEFUL, DOLEFUL WEATHER
MADE US STANDOFFISH, STAND 
APART, FEARING THAT TO STAND 
TOGETHER WOULD GRANT DISEASE NO 
DISTANT START.
NOW WILLOWS DANGLE, RAMBUNCTIOUS
TENDRILS, GREEN FRONDS THAT 
[INDISCERNIBLE] WHILE PALE 
TRILLIUMS [INDISCERNIBLE] 
CONSCIOUS THAT BEAUTY AND PERIL 
COME TWINNED.
FROM EACH SANCTUARY COCOON, LET 
EACH CITIZEN RESURRECT -- TO 
TOUCH, CLUTCH AND SWOON. 
>> I KNOW.
>> ENDING FORCED TRAUMATIC 
NEGLECT, UNCOMPROMISING IS 
BEAUTY AND LOVE.
>> I'D LIKE TO THROW YOU A HUG.
>> WHILE FROST TO BLOSSOMS 
MELTS.
TO BREATHE IS TO LOVE.
OUR DUTY, TO SPY -- CLOUDS HAVE 
RIGHT RESULTS.
TO SPY HALF CLOUDS HOW WHITE 
