[CROWD CHANTING]
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
[WOMAN] IT'S HER BODY.
[WOMAN] THERE'S
SEVERE DISABILITIES.
[WOMAN] IT'S NOT
GONNA GET LOVE.
[WOMAN] THEY SIMPLY
CAN'T...AFFORD IT.
[WOMAN] WELL, IF SHE
WERE TO GET RAPED.
[WOMAN] I JUST DON'T
FEEL LIKE I'D BE READY.
[MAN] IT'S AN ORGAN,
IT'S NOT A LIVING THING.
[WOMAN] ALSO, I AM A WOMAN WHO
HAS HAD AN ABORTION BEFORE,
AND IT'S NOT
WEIGHING ON MY CONSCIENCE.
[RAY COMFORT] DID YOU FEEL
GUILTY WHEN YOU KILLED YOUR
CHILD?
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] I'M RAY COMFORT.
BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2011,
WE RELEASED A PRO-LIFE MOVIE
CALLED "180" THAT
WAS SEEN BY MILLIONS.
WE DISTRIBUTED OVER A MILLION
DVDS AND IT WAS SHOWN ON
TELEVISION IN
OVER 190 COUNTRIES.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME,
THINGS HAVEN'T IMPROVED IN OUR
NATION.
AND THE ISSUE HAS BECOME
EVEN MORE CONTENTIOUS.
[MUSIC] 
[MAN] WELL, THIS IS A VICTORY
FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
[WOMAN] THE SUPREME COURT
HAS BLOCKED A CONTROVERSIAL
ABORTION LAW.
[MAN] VIRGINIA'S GOVERNOR
TODAY RESPONDED TO CRITICS
AFTER A MOVE BY DEMOCRATS TO
EASE RESTRICTIONS ON LATE TERM
ABORTIONS.
[MAN] WHEN SHE WAS ASKED BY
A REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER IF HER
BILL WOULD ALLOW AN ABORTION
EVEN WHILE A WOMAN WAS IN
LABOR.
[KATHY TRAN] MY
BILL WOULD ALLOW THAT,
YES.
[MAN] ABORTION COULD BE
CONSIDERED EVEN DURING BIRTH.
[WOMAN] LEGALIZING
ABORTION UP UNTIL BIRTH.
[TUCKER CARLSON] THE
CHILD'S AN INFANT,
IS BORN, THERE'S A POINT WHERE
THE MOTHER AND THE PHYSICIAN
CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO
KILL THE INFANT OR NOT.
I'M ASKING YOU
WHAT YOU THINK OF IT,
THAT'S IT.
[MONICA KLEIN] THIS IS ABOUT
YOU ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL
WOMEN'S BODIES.
[TUCKER] OKAY.
[WOMAN] A LATE TERM ABORTION
IS DONE IN TWO WAYS: EITHER
THROUGH DISMEMBERMENT OR
THROUGH A PARTIAL BIRTH
ABORTION MANNER, WHERE THE
SKULL IS CRUSHED OR BOTH.
[DR. ANTHONY LEVATINO] YOU
KNOW YOU DID IT RIGHT IF YOU
CRUSH DOWN ON THE INSTRUMENT
AND WHITE MATERIAL RUNS OUT
OF THE CERVIX, THAT WAS
THE BABY'S BRAINS.
AND YOU COULD PULL
OUT SKULL PIECES.
YOU HAVE A DAY LIKE I
HAD A LOT OF TIMES,
SOMETIMES A LITTLE FACE COMES
BACK AND STARES BACK AT YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST
SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMED A
SECOND TRIMESTER D&E ABORTION.
[RAY] ARE YOU BEGINNING TO
CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS
ISSUE OF ABORTION?
[WOMAN] I GUESS
YOU COULD SAY YES,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
YOU HAD GOOD REASONS.
[MUSIC] 
[RAY] HOW DO YOU
FEEL ABOUT ABORTION?
[WOMAN] I FEEL LIKE
IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE;
IT'S HER BODY AT
THE END OF THE DAY.
THE MAN'S NOT GONNA
BE STUCK WITH THE KID;
IT'S THE WOMAN'S.
[WOMAN] AT THE END OF THE DAY,
IT'S HER BODY AND SHE SHOULD
HAVE THE RIGHT TO
CHOOSE WHAT HAPPENS TO IT.
[MAN] THAT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
[WOMAN] I FEEL A WOMAN HAS
A RIGHT TO CHOOSE HERSELF.
[RAY] YOU THINK IT'S A
WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?
[WOMAN] OF COURSE;
ABSOLUTELY, YES.
[WOMAN] I FEEL LIKE IT'S
THE WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
WE HAVE RIGHTS
OVER OUR OWN BODY.
[WOMAN] I BELIEVE
IT'S A WOMAN'S RIGHT.
I BELIEVE IN THE
RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY.
[RAY] DO YOU THINK IT'S A
WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?
[GIRL] I DO.
[WOMAN] WOMEN DO HAVE
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
[MAN] IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
[RAY] WHY DO YOU THINK
IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE?
[MAN] SHE IS THE CARRIER OF
THE BABY AND SHE IS THE ONE
WHO IS DOING MOST OF THE WORK;
AS FAR AS PROVIDING FOR THE
BABY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
[WOMAN] THE WOMAN HAS
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE;
HOWEVER, I DO THINK
SOME TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
[RAY] IN WHAT WAY?
[WOMAN] FOR EXAMPLE, I
HAVE A COUSIN OF MINE,
SHE'S HAD FIVE ABORTIONS.
[WOMAN] WELL, I'M PERSONALLY,
I'M PRO-CHOICE OF IT.
I PERSONALLY WOULD
NEVER HAVE AN ABORTION;
BUT I CAN'T TELL ANYONE ELSE.
[WOMAN] I FEEL LIKE IT'S A
WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT
SHE WANTS TO DO
WITH HER OWN BODY.
[MAN] THESE WOMEN HAVE THE
ENTIRE CHOICE TO CHOOSE WHAT
THEY WANT.
AND NO ONE
SHOULD DICTATE THAT.
[MAN] YEAH, I THINK
IT'S A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
[RAY] SO YOU THINK IT'S A
WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?
[WOMAN] YES, YES IT IS.
[WOMAN] IF IT'S NOT AT
THE DUE DATE WHEN IT'S DUE;
IT'S, I'M SORRY, BUT
IT'S NOT REALLY A BABY,
BUT IT IS A BABY
AT THE SAME TIME.
[RAY] SO, IF IT'S
EIGHT MONTHS IN THE WOMB,
IT'S NOT A BABY?
[WOMAN] NO, I THINK EIGHT
MONTHS IS A LITTLE TOO,
TOO FAR ALONG TO
HAVE AN ABORTION;
MAYBE LIKE IN THE EARLIER
STAGES WOULD BE BETTER.
[RAY] SEVEN MONTHS?
[WOMAN] MMM, IT'S DOABLE;
BUT DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT ON
YOUR CONSCIENCE?
[RAY] YOU KNOW, IT'S HEART
BEGINS BEATING AT THREE WEEKS,
ONE DAY; DID YOU KNOW THAT?
[WOMAN] YES, I DID.
[RAY] IS IT OKAY
TO KILL IT THEN?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] SO WHEN DOES
IT BECOME A BABY?
AT WHAT STAGE,
WHEN IT CAN SEE?
I MEAN, WHEN IT'S
GOT DEVELOPED EYES,
DEVELOPED BRAIN.
[MAN] WHEN IT HAS A HEARTBEAT.
[RAY] OKAY, THAT'S...
[MAN] THREE
WEEKS, LIKE YOU SAID.
[RAY] THREE WEEKS, SO IT'S A
BABY IN THE WOMB AFTER THREE
WEEKS?
SO, DO YOU BELIEVE IN ABORTION
AFTER THE THREE-WEEK PERIOD?
[MAN] SURE.
IT REALLY IS
CONTINGENT ON JUST THE WOMAN,
I FEEL.
BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONE WHO'S
GONNA GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
[RAY] NOW, IF YOU
HAD TO KILL A BABY,
HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?
[WOMAN] IF I HAD
TO KILL A BABY?
[RAY] YEAH, IF
IT WAS YOUR JOB?
THIS WOMAN COMES
IN, SHE SAYS, "LOOK,
I'M THREE MONTHS PREGNANT.
I KNOW IT'S A BABY IN MY WOMB;
BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO KILL IT."
HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT IT?
[WOMAN] WELL, YOU KNOW
WHAT, THE WAY THAT THEY DO IT,
I CAN'T--I'M NOT A
PROFESSIONAL IN THAT MATTER,
SO I...
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
HOW THEY DO IT?
[WOMAN] YES, I DO.
[RAY] CAN YOU
EXPLAIN IT TO ME?
[WOMAN] THEY CUT THE BABY
UP AND PULL IT OUT PIECE BY
PIECE.
[RAY] DO YOU
THINK THAT'S GOOD?
[WOMAN] I THINK
IT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
IT'S HER CHOICE.
[RAY] NOW, CAN YOU GIVE ME
SOME GOOD REASONS FOR SOMEONE
HAVING AN ABORTION?
[WOMAN] SOMEONE WHO
DOESN'T HAVE MONEY,
CAN'T FINANCIALLY OR STABLY
TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN CHILD;
WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN
TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.
[WOMAN] MONETARY REASONS.
[WOMAN] BUT I FEEL LIKE A
LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T IN THE
CIRCUMSTANCE FINANCIALLY OR
THEY DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT.
[WOMAN] I'D SAY NOT
BEING FINANCIALLY STABLE;
MAYBE FOR BEING ABLE
TO TAKING CARE OF,
LIKE, A CHILD.
[WOMAN] YOU SIMPLY
CAN'T AFFORD IT.
[RAY] ABORTION CLINICS ALSO
CITE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AS A
GOOD REASON FOR ABORTION; AND
THEY'RE PREPARED TO HELP YOU
OUT BY KILLING YOUR BABY
FOR JUST THREE $3,275.
[WOMAN] I FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T,
YOU SHOULDN'T PUT THEM IN A
SITUATION WHERE THEY
CAN'T SUPPORT THE KID.
[RAY] SO, THE MOTHER WOULD
STARVE TO DEATH IF SHE HAD THE
CHILD?
[WOMAN] NO, BUT HER FINANCIAL
SITUATION WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
[RAY] WOULDN'T THE
GOVERNMENT HELP OUT?
ISN'T THERE SUCH A
THING AS WELFARE?
[WOMAN] ALONG WITH THE
BABY COMES LATE NIGHTS,
YOU KNOW, GIVING UP YOUR
LIFE TO RAISE SOMEONE.
[RAY] ISN'T THAT WHAT
YOUR MOTHER DID FOR YOU?
[WOMAN] YEAH, SHE DID.
[RAY] SHE DIDN'T
HAVE YOU ABORTED,
SHE RAISED YOU.
SHE SACRIFICED SOME
THINGS SO THAT YOU COULD LIVE.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE SAYING
A GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR
ABORTION IS INCONVENIENCE?
YOU WANT TO PARTY AND THAT
BABY'S GONNA MESS UP YOUR
LIFE, YOUR SOCIAL LIFE.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT?
[WOMAN] YEAH, THAT
ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE,
LIKE YOU ACTUALLY
TOUCHED MY HEART,
YOU KNOW?
[RAY] CAN YOU THINK OF
ANY OTHER REASONS WHY,
FOR JUSTIFYING ABORTION?
[MAN] MAYBE A PERSON
THAT DOESN'T WANT A KID?
[RAY] THEY DON'T WANT A KID
AND THAT'S JUSTIFICATION FOR
GETTING RID OF IT?
[MAN] POSSIBLY.
[WOMAN] SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER
IF THE CHILD ISN'T BORN AND
DEPENDING IF IT'S
NOT GONNA GET LOVE;
OR IF IT'S GONNA BE ABUSED.
[MAN] YOU SEE PEOPLE
HOMELESS IN THE BRIDGE.
THEY DON'T CARE
ABOUT THE CHILD,
LIKE, THAT'S EVEN MORE
SUFFERING THAN KILLING THE
BABY.
[RAY] YOU'RE SAYING
THEY'RE NOT HAPPY,
AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD
KILL BABIES IN THE WOMB?
IN CASE THEY BECOME
HOMELESS AND UNHAPPY?
I MEET A LOT OF HOMELESS
PEOPLE AND MANY OF THEM ARE
QUITE HAPPY WITH
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'VE GOT NO RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY LIVE UNDER A
BRIDGE, THEY'RE WARM,
THEY GET FREE MEALS
FROM A LOCAL CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, AND THE GOVERNMENT
GIVES THEM A PAYCHECK.
I'VE STOPPED
HOMELESS PEOPLE AND SAID,
"CAN I SHOWER YOU AND BUY YOU
CLOTHES AND GET YOU A JOB?"
AND I'VE HAD THEM SAY,
"NO I'M HAPPY AS I AM.
THANKS, I GET MY
GOVERNMENT CHECK."
SO, SAYING PEOPLE ARE GONNA
BE HOMELESS WHEN THEY'RE OLDER
ISN'T A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE
MURDER OF CHILDREN BEFORE THEY
GROW UP.
[MAN] WHEN THEY DO DRUGS AND
THEY ACCIDENTALLY GET A CHILD;
WHY WOULD A CHILD BE RAISED
WITH THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE?
THAT'S A
MISERABLE LIFE, HONESTLY,
IF YOU ASK ME.
[RAY] INSTEAD OF
KILLING THE BABY,
YOU HAVE IT ADOPTED.
WHICH IS BEST, TO KILL YOUR
OWN CHILD OR GIVE IT AWAY TO
SOMEONE ELSE?
[WOMAN]
HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW.
[RAY] THIS WOMAN EVEN FILMED
HERSELF HAVING AN ABORTION.
SHE WAS TRYING TO REMOVE WHAT
SHE CALLED THE "STIGMA" THAT
COMES WITH ABORTION.
IN THE VIDEO, SHE SHOWED HOW
EASY IT IS TO KILL YOUR OWN
CHILD.
YOU CAN EVEN HUM A LITTLE TUNE
WHILE HE OR SHE IS BEING TORN
LIMB FROM LIMB.
[WOMAN] THERE WAS SOMETHING
THAT YOU SAID IN YOUR
COSMOPOLITAN INTERVIEW.
IT FELT LIKE GIVING BIRTH, THAT
YOU WERE HUMMING THROUGH IT.
[DR. LEVATINO] THIS IS THE MOST
FREQUENTLY PERFORMED ABORTION,
AND IS USED TYPICALLY FROM
FIVE TO THIRTEEN WEEKS OF
PREGNANCY.
THIS IS A FOURTEEN
FRENCH SUCTION CATHETER.
IT'S CLEAR PLASTIC,
ABOUT NINE INCHES LONG,
AND IT HAS A HOLE
THROUGH THE CENTER,
AND IS INSERTED THROUGH
THE CERVIX INTO THE UTERUS.
THE SUCTION MACHINE
IS THEN TURNED ON,
WITH A FORCE TEN TO TWENTY
TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN YOUR
HOUSEHOLD VACUUM CLEANER.
THE BABY IS RAPIDLY TORN APART
BY THE FORCE OF THE SUCTION
AND SQUEEZED THROUGH THIS
TUBING DOWN INTO THE SUCTION
MACHINE.
[RAY] PLEASE, USE
YOUR LIFE FOR GOOD;
NOT FOR BAD.
DON'T PUSH
ABORTION, PUSH PRO-LIFE.
SAY, "I'M NOT GONNA VOTE
FOR ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THE
KILLING OF CHILDREN
IN THE WOMB IS OKAY.
AND I'M GONNA MAKE MY VOTE
COUNT BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT
HUMAN BEINGS."
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
[MAN] YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN...
[RAY] ARE YOU GONNA
THINK ABOUT THIS?
[MAN] YEAH, I MEAN,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UP TO
SOCIETY.
I DON'T GET WITH SOCIETY, I
JUST TRY TO LIVE MY OWN LIFE.
[RAY] YOU ARE SOCIETY.
YOUR VOTE MATTERS.
[WOMAN] EITHER A
PERSON'S CHOICE,
IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO
TAKE CARE OF AN ILL CHILD.
IF THE CHILD COMES OUT WITH
SEVERE MENTAL PROBLEMS OR
SEVERE DISABILITIES.
[RAY] SO, THIS IS
AFTER THE BABY'S BORN.
IT'S LYING ON THE TABLE.
AND THEY THINK IT'S GOT MENTAL
DISABILITIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT
RESPONDING.
HOW WOULD YOU PUT IT TO DEATH,
WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO KILL IT?
[WOMAN] I WOULD NOT KILL IT.
I WOULD ASK THE PERSON IF THEY
WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE BABY,
OR IF THEY WOULD
FURTHER, YOU KNOW,
PUT IT...IF THEY CANNOT
TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD,
PUT IT IN PROGRAMS THAT,
PEOPLE THAT ARE SPECIALIZED
IN...
[RAY] SO, HAVE YOU JUST
CHANGED YOUR MIND ABOUT
ABORTING THE CHILD?
[WOMAN] YES.
[WOMAN] IT'S HER BODY, SO,
SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE HER
CHOICES.
[WOMAN] THERE'S
CERTAIN, LIKE, WEEKS,
AND THERE'S A WHOLE
PROCESS TO THE BABY,
THE BABY EVENTUALLY
DEVELOPING INTO A BABY,
RIGHT?
BY THAT TIME, I
THINK IT IS A BABY;
BECAUSE IT'S NOW GOT A
HEART, IT'S GOT A HEARTBEAT.
IT'S ALIVE NOW.
BUT IT'S STILL NOT
FULLY DEVELOPED,
IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY A PERSON YET.
IT'S NOT LIKE A
PHYSICAL, YOU KNOW,
THING THERE YET.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
HOW THEY DO ABORTIONS?
WELL, THEY ACTUALLY GO IN
AND CRUSH THE HEAD AND THEN...
[WOMAN] I KNOW.
AND THEN THE
TUBE SUCKS IT OUT.
AND THEN...
[RAY] SUCKS THE
ARMS AND THE LEGS OUT.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY?
[WOMAN] I THINK IT'S A
PERSON'S CHOICE WHETHER THEY
WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW IF A
MAN COMES UP TO A WOMAN AND
PUNCHES HER IN THE
STOMACH AND THE BABY DIES,
HE'S CHARGED FOR MURDER?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[WOMAN] MARYLAND, ALONG
WITH FORTY OTHER STATES,
HAVE FETAL HOMICIDE
LAWS ON THE BOOKS.
DAVID MILLER WAS FOUND GUILTY
OF SHOOTING AND KILLING HIS
PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND, AS WELL
AS THE PAIR'S CHILD SHE WAS
CARRYING.
[MAN] THAT ALLOWS SOMEONE
TO BE CHARGED WITH MURDER,
MANSLAUGHTER, OR FETICIDE OF
A FETUS IN ANY DEVELOPMENT
STAGE.
THE LAW EXCLUDES
LEGAL ABORTIONS.
[RAY] AND WHAT
DOES THAT SAY TO YOU?
DOESN'T IT SAY THERE'S
AN AMBIGUITY IN OUR LAW,
THAT THE LAW SAYS IT'S A BABY
AND THEN THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN
KILL THE BABY?
WHEN DOES IT
BECOME NOT HER BODY?
[WOMAN] I DON'T THINK IT
EVER BECOMES NOT HER BODY.
IT'S HERS, LIKE, SHE...I'M
NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO PUT IT.
IT WILL ALWAYS BE
A WOMAN'S BODY,
EVEN IF THERE IS A
BEING INSIDE OF IT.
[RAY] A HUMAN BEING?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] WHEN DOES THE BABY
BECOME A BABY IN THE WOMB?
[WOMAN] IN THE WOMB?
I'M NOT SURE.
[WOMAN] I'M NOT
SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THE,
LIKE, GESTATION
PERIOD OF WHEN,
LIKE, THE BABY IS FORMED.
MY CONSCIENCE TELLS ME WHAT I
SHOULD DO AND WHAT'S RIGHT OR
WRONG; RATHER THAN A LIST
THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS KIND OF
DECIDED FOR ME.
[RAY] LET'S SAY I SAID MY
CONSCIENCE SAYS PEDOPHILIA'S
OKAY.
[WOMAN] THAT'S
YOUR CONSCIENCE,
AND IT'S ALSO ILLEGAL, SO.
[RAY] IF IT WAS MADE LEGAL,
WOULD YOU STILL THINK IT WAS
WRONG?
THIS PUSHES FOR
LEGALITY OF PEDOPHILIA,
BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING
THESE PEOPLE ARE BORN LIKE IT;
THEY CAN'T HELP IT.
WE NEED TO BE SYMPATHETIC
AND NOT PUNISH THEM.
DO YOU THINK THAT
WOULD BE RIGHT?
[WOMAN] NO, NOT AT ALL.
[RAY] SO YOU FEEL
STRONGLY ABOUT THAT?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT
BABIES BEING KILLED IN THE
WOMB.
I'VE GOT A PICTURE IN MY
POCKET OF A BABY AT NINE
WEEKS, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SEE IT?
[WOMAN] SURE.
[RAY] THAT SHOWS YOU
THE STAGES OF GESTATION.
[WOMAN] I WOULD NEVER
ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO HAVE THE
ABORTION IN THE
FIRST PLACE; BUT...
[RAY] WELL, THAT'S
NICE OF YOU TO SAY THAT.
I THINK WE'RE MAKING A
LITTLE HEADWAY HERE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR
WITH NAZI GERMANY?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] DO YOU
KNOW WHAT THEY DID?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] DO YOU
THINK IT WAS RIGHT?
[WOMAN] SOME PEOPLE...NO.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
HOW THEY JUSTIFIED IT?
THEY SAID THESE
PEOPLE AREN'T HUMAN;
THEREFORE, WE CAN KILL THEM.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DO TO
JUSTIFY THE TAKING OF LIVES IN
THE WOMB.
WE SAY, "IT'S NOT A HUMAN.
THIS IS PART OF MY BODY."
AND IT'S NOT A
LIVER, IT'S NOT A KIDNEY,
IT'S NOT A LUNG.
A LIVER, AND A
KIDNEY, AND A LUNG,
THEY'RE VITAL ORGANS THAT
YOU CAN'T REALLY LIVE WITHOUT.
YOU NEED THEM.
BUT A BABY'S NOT
A VITAL ORGAN.
IT'S A GIFT FROM GOD.
ANY GOOD REASONS FOR A
WOMAN TO HAVE AN ABORTION?
[WOMAN] YEAH, I BELIEVE
THERE'S A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE A WOMAN SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET AN ABORTION.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF SHE
WERE TO GET RAPED,
STUFF LIKE THAT.
I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE
THE RIGHT TO GET AN ABORTION.
[WOMAN] I BELIEVE IF YOU
WERE RAPED OR IF YOU'VE,
IF SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED AND
YOU DID NOT GIVE CONSENT AND
YOU ARE NOW PREGNANT WITH
A CHILD THAT YOU WOULD BE
REMINDED OF EVERY DAY
OF A NEGATIVE SUBJECT,
THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
[WOMAN] LET'S SAY A WOMAN
GETS RAPED AND SHE ENDS UP
PREGNANT.
WHAT WOULD SHE DO
WITH THE, YOU KNOW,
THE BABY?
YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT
COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT JUST
HAPPENED AND NOW SHE'S A
LIFE INSIDE OF HER FROM,
YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT
JUST HAPPENED TO HER.
[RAY] SO, IS IT OKAY TO KILL
THE CHILD FOR THE CRIME OF THE
FATHER?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] WHY NOT HAVE THE BABY?
IT'S HER BABY.
AND HAVE IT ADOPTED?
AND SO IT HAS A LOVING HOME.
HAVE YOU EVER
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
[WOMAN] YEAH, I'VE
THOUGHT ABOUT IT;
BUT, LIKE, NINE MONTHS?
SUCH A LONG TIME AND...
[RAY] IT IS AN
INCONVENIENCE, ISN'T IT?
[WOMAN] YEAH, I MEAN...
[RAY] SO, HOW
WOULD YOU KILL A BABY?
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY
TO HANDLE THE KILLING OF IT?
[WOMAN] I MEAN, GOING
TO AN ABORTION CLINIC,
JUST...
[RAY] HOW DO THEY DO IT?
[WOMAN] I'M NOT
EXACTLY SURE ABOUT THAT.
[WOMAN] PERSONALLY,
IF YOU WERE RAPED,
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET RID OF THE BABY.
[RAY] SO, WHEN IS IT OKAY
TO KILL A BABY IN THE WOMB?
[WOMAN] I DON'T THINK IT IS.
[RAY] SO, COULDN'T
YOU TELL SOMEONE THAT?
IF SOMEONE'S GONNA
KILL THEIR CHILD,
YOU SHOULD SAY,
"HEY, THAT IS WRONG!
DON'T KILL YOUR CHILD."
IF YOU SAW A CHILD IN A
CAR AND THE WINDOWS WERE UP,
AND THE MOTHER WAS GONNA LEAVE
IT IN THE CAR TO DIE ON A HOT
DAY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
[WOMAN] I'D BE ANGRY,
I WOULD BREAK THE CAR.
[WOMAN] I'D SMASH THE
WINDOWS, CALL THE POLICE.
[RAY] YOU FEEL THAT
STRONGLY ABOUT IT?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] BECAUSE THE LIFE
OF THE CHILD IS INVOLVED.
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] ISN'T THAT THE
SAME WITH ABORTION?
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
[WOMAN] I'D BUST THE WINDOW.
[RAY] YOU'D SMASH THE WINDOWS?
WOULD YOU SMASH THE
WINDOWS AND KILL THE CHILD?
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] WHY NOT?
[WOMAN] BECAUSE
THAT'S HER CHILD.
[RAY] BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING TO DO WITH A CHILD
INSIDE OF A WOMAN -
THE CHILD'S INNOCENT.
THE FATHER'S GUILTY
AND I'M TRYING TO SAY,
HEY, THIS CHILD IS INNOCENT.
YOU NEVER TAKE THE LIFE
OF AN INNOCENT CHILD.
CAN YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
[WOMAN] I DO, ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT.
[RAY] YOU SHOULD BE DESPERATE
TO SAVE THE LIFE OF THAT CHILD
AS YOU WOULD TO SAVE THE
LIFE OF A CHILD IN THAT CAR.
YOU'D SAY, "OH PLEASE,
PLEASE, DON'T DO THIS."
YOU WOULDN'T SAY,
"WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU;
YOU MIGHT HAVE
DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES."
YOU'VE GOTTA BE PASSIONATE
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT CHILD.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE MOVIES
IN THE PAST WHERE WOMEN HAVE
WATCHED THEM AND
CHANGED THEIR MINDS,
HAD THE BABIES, AND COME TO
OUR MINISTRY TO SHOW US THE
BABY THAT'S NOW ALIVE BECAUSE
THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND ABOUT
ABORTION.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF
SAYING, "I'LL HAVE THIS CHILD,
IT'S INCONVENIENT, I'M
GONNA GET MORNING SICKNESS,
THE LABOR PAINS
ARE GONNA BE BAD;
BUT I'LL HAVE IT ADOPTED
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KILL
MY OWN OFFSPRING."
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
[WOMAN] THAT
MAKES PERFECT SENSE,
YES.
[RAY] NOW YOU MENTIONED
SOMETHING ABOUT CONSCIENCE
BEFORE.
DO YOU THINK
CONSCIENCE IS RELIABLE?
[WOMAN] YEAH, I
KNOW A LOT OF WOMEN,
THEY GO THROUGH THE ABORTION
PROCESS AND THEY STILL HAVE IT
ON THEIR CONSCIENCE; AND
THEY'RE VERY SCARED ABOUT IT;
BUT...
[RAY] WHY ARE THEY SCARED?
[WOMAN] WELL, MOSTLY BECAUSE
SOCIETY MAKES THEM FEEL LIKE
THEY HAVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY
TO TAKE CARE OF A KID;
THEY KIND OF SHAME THEM
FOR HAVING THIS ABORTION.
AND...
[RAY] THE
KILLING OF THE CHILD?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] SHOULDN'T
THAT BE JUSTIFIED?
THEY KILLED
THEIR OWN OFFSPRING.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN
GOD'S EXISTENCE?
[WOMAN] YEAH, OF COURSE.
[RAY] WHAT DO YOU THINK
HE THINKS OF ABORTION?
THE KILLING OF A
CHILD IN THE WOMB?
[WOMAN] I BELIEVE IT'S, I
BELIEVE "SHE" THINKS THAT IT'S
THE WOMAN'S CHOICE.
[RAY] MY DOG'S
GOT PREGNANT, OKAY?
IT'S GOT PUPPIES INSIDE HER.
I WANT TO KILL THEM, BECAUSE
IT'S GONNA INCONVENIENCE ME.
YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
[WOMAN] WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE
DROWN THEIR PUPPIES ONCE
THEY'RE BORN, SO.
[RAY] YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
[WOMAN] YEAH, IT'S FINE.
[RAY] SO DROWNING WOULD
BE OKAY FOR THE BABY?
THAT WOULD BE BETTER
THAN CUTTING IT UP,
DON'T YOU THINK?
[WOMAN] IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU
CAN'T COMPARE A HUMAN TO AN
ANIMAL; BECAUSE AN
ANIMAL IS AN ANIMAL,
AND A HUMAN IS A HUMAN.
[RAY] SO, WHAT'S
THE DIFFERENCE?
[WOMAN] WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, I
DON'T WANT TO SAY RETARDED;
BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A
LAME QUESTION TO ASK.
[RAY] WE'RE IN A COLLEGE AND
PROBABLY 80% OF THE STUDENTS
HERE BELIEVE THAT
MAN IS AN ANIMAL,
BECAUSE HE EVOLVED.
HE WASN'T CREATED BY GOD.
THEY CALL HIM AN ANIMAL.
WE HAVE APES OR
PRIMATES AS A COMMON ANCESTOR.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
[WOMAN] MY BELIEFS ARE MY
BELIEFS AND I'M NOT GONNA
IMPOSE THEM ON ANYONE, SO...
[RAY] OKAY, SO DO YOU
BELIEVE IN GOD'S EXISTENCE?
[WOMAN] AGAIN, MY BELIEFS ARE
MY BELIEFS AND I'M NOT GONNA
IMPOSE THEM ON ANYONE.
[RAY] WELL, YOU WON'T
BE IMPOSING THEM ON ME,
I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN
GOD'S EXISTENCE?
ADRIANA, DO YOU REMEMBER
WHAT THE FIRST OF THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS IS?
[ADRIANA] THE
TEN COMMANDMENTS?
OF THE BIBLE?
NO.
[RAY] IT'S "YOU SHALL HAVE
NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME."
IN OTHER WORDS, DON'T MAKE
UP A GOD THAT SUITS YOURSELF.
A GOD YOU FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH.
I DID IT BEFORE I WAS A
CHRISTIAN AND AT THE MOMENT,
YOUR IMAGE OF GOD IS OKAY WITH
ABORTION - KILLING YOUR OWN
OFFSPRING.
THERE'S NO GREATER EVIL THAN
TO KILL YOUR OWN CHILDREN.
AND YOUR CONSCIENCE SHOULD
KICK IN NOW AND SHOULD BE
SAYING, "BOY, THAT'S RIGHT!"
BECAUSE THE CONSCIENCE IS
CALLED THE WORK OF THE LAW
WRITTEN ON YOUR HEART.
IN OTHER WORDS, CONSCIENCE IS
AN INDEPENDENT JUDGE ON THE
COURTROOM OF YOUR MIND; AND
WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG
LIKE FORNICATE,
BLASPHEME, LIE,
STEAL, OR COMMIT ADULTERY,
IT SHOULD ACCUSE YOU.
AND IT SHOULD ALSO ACCUSE
YOU WHEN YOU MURDER SOMEONE OR
ADVOCATE THE MURDER OF
CHILDREN IN THE WOMB.
BUT CONSCIENCE ISN'T RELIABLE,
I'LL TELL YOU WHY: YOU CAN
DULL IT.
IT'S LIKE A SMOKE DETECTOR;
YOU CAN TAKE THE BATTERIES
OUT.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT
ALARMING YOU...BUT IT'S TO
YOUR OWN DETRIMENT.
IF YOU REMOVE THE BATTERIES
FROM A SMOKE DETECTOR,
YOU'RE GONNA BE IN BIG TROUBLE
IF A FIRE BREAKS OUT IN YOUR
HOME.
AND IF YOU DULL YOUR
CONSCIENCE AND SAY IT'S OKAY
TO KILL CHILDREN IN THE WOMB,
YOU'VE GOT TO FACE GOD ON THE
DAY OF JUDGMENT AND HE
CONSIDERS HATE TO BE MURDER.
IF YOU HATE YOUR
BROTHER, YOU'RE A MURDERER.
SO, HOW MUCH MORE GUILTY ARE
WE IF WE ADVOCATE THE MURDER
OF OUR OWN CHILDREN?
[ADRIANA] AND BASICALLY,
YOU'RE KINDA PREACHING ON DEAF
EARS AT THE MOMENT.
[RAY] YOU'VE GOT EARS
AND THEY'RE LISTENING.
I CAN SEE IT IN YOUR EYES.
YOUR CONSCIENCE IS DOING
ITS DUTY AND FOR THAT,
I'M VERY THANKFUL.
[ADRIANA] IT'S ALSO, I AM A
WOMAN WHO HAS HAD AN ABORTION
BEFORE; AND IT'S NOT
WEIGHING ON MY CONSCIENCE.
[RAY] DID YOU FEEL GUILTY
WHEN YOU KILLED YOUR CHILD?
[ADRIANA] NO, BECAUSE I WASN'T
AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE I
COULD TAKE CARE OF IT; AND I
KNEW I COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF
IT.
[RAY] WHY DIDN'T
YOU HAVE IT ADOPTED?
[ADRIANA] WHY DIDN'T
I HAVE IT ADOPTED?
HAVE YOU SEEN THE
ADOPTION PROCESS?
[RAY] YEAH, THERE'S THOUSANDS
OF COUPLES WAITING TO ADOPT
CHILDREN, AND WONDERFUL HOMES.
HOW OLD WOULD
YOUR CHILD BE NOW,
IF YOU'D LET IT LIVE?
YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ADOPTED
OUT IF YOU HAD ALLOWED IT TO
LIVE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS
CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT FUTURE
CHILDREN THAT COULD BE
ABORTED BECAUSE YOU DON'T VOTE
PRO-LIFE.
AND I'M JUST SAYING, PLEASE,
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
[ADRIANA] I'M
GONNA VOTE PRO-CHOICE.
[RAY] THANK YOU FOR
SHARING YOUR HEART.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND
I HOPE YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
[ADRIANA] I REALLY WON'T.
THANK YOU, THOUGH.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
[WOMAN] HONESTLY, LIKE, IF
I WERE TO GET AN ABORTION,
I KNOW IT'S SELFISH
OF ME AND I'M LIKE,
EVIL.
BUT, I COULD BE
JUDGED HOWEVER I WANT.
I JUST DON'T FEEL
LIKE I'D BE READY,
LIKE IF IT COMES
TO ME, YOU KNOW.
AT THE END OF THE DAY,
IT IS A WOMAN'S CHOICE.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST
NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW,
GIVING, DO AN
ABORTION TO PARTY,
YOU KNOW?
IT'S DOING IT TO PRIORITIZE
MY EDUCATION AND WHATNOT.
[RAY] SO, IT'S, EDUCATION IS
A GOOD REASON FOR KILLING THE
BABY?
[WOMAN] WELL, WHEN
YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT,
NO.
[RAY] SO IT'S A
BABY IN THE WOMB,
IS THAT RIGHT?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] FINISH THE SENTENCE:
IT'S OKAY TO KILL A BABY IN
THE WOMB WHEN?
[WOMAN] WHEN...THAT'S
A TRICKY QUESTION.
IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT.
[RAY] WHEN?
SO AFTER THREE WEEKS, ONE
DAY, THE HEART BEGINS TO BEAT.
[MAN] YEAH.
[RAY] IS IT A BABY THEN?
[MAN] YES.
[RAY] SO, FINISH
THIS QUESTION FOR ME,
WILL YA?
IT'S OKAY TO KILL A
BABY IN THE WOMB WHEN?
[WOMAN] WHEN...AH,
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM...
I WOULD SAY, I
WOULD SAY...HM...
[RAY] SO IT'S A
BABY IN THE WOMB?
[MAN] YEAH.
[RAY] OKAY, FINISH
THE SENTENCE FOR ME,
BRIAN.
IT'S OKAY TO KILL A
BABY IN THE WOMB WHEN?
[BRIAN] IT'S NOT
REALLY MY...
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW
TO ANSWER THAT.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
WHAT'S HAPPENING?
YOUR GOD-GIVEN CONSCIENCE IS
SAYING TO YOU IT'S WRONG TO
KILL A BABY IN THE WOMB.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU
CAN'T SAY IT'S OKAY.
YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG.
YOUR MOTHER DIDN'T ABORT YOU.
YOU'RE A SEPARATE HUMAN
BEING FROM YOUR MOTHER'S BODY.
EVEN WHEN YOU'RE IN THE
WOMB, YOU'RE A LIVING ENTITY;
CREATED BY GOD, IN HIS IMAGE.
BECAUSE WRITTEN ON YOUR HEART
IS THE WORDS "YOU SHALL NOT
KILL."
AND YOU KNOW INTUITIVELY THAT
IT'S WRONG TO KILL A BABY IN
THE WOMB.
EVEN THOUGH IF ALL
SOCIETY SAYS IT,
YOU KNOW AS A HUMAN BEING
YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.
SO, CONSCIENCE IS VERY STRONG.
THE WORD CONSCIENCE ACTUALLY
MEANS "WITH KNOWLEDGE."
"CON" IS WITH,
"SCIENCE" IS KNOWLEDGE.
SO GOD'S GIVEN YOU
KNOWLEDGE OF RIGHT AND WRONG.
YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG TO LIE
AND STEAL AND COMMIT ADULTERY,
BLASPHEME, AND
IT'S WRONG TO MURDER.
IT SAYS THINGS
THAT WE DON'T LIKE.
IT SAYS, HEY IT'S
WRONG TO STEAL.
IF YOU'RE STEALING
AND ENJOYING IT,
THE CONSCIENCE SAYS
IT'S WRONG TO STEAL.
IT SAYS IT'S WRONG TO LIE.
IT ALSO SAYS IT'S WRONG TO
KILL A BABY IN THE WOMB.
AND SO, THAT'S
WHY YOU CAN'T SAY,
"YEAH, IT'S RIGHT," BECAUSE
THE CONSCIENCE ACCUSES YOU.
AND CONSCIENCE IS VERY STRONG.
IT DRIVES PEOPLE TO
DRINK AND TO SUICIDE.
AND IT'S GOD-GIVEN.
THE HEART BEGINS TO
BEAT AT THREE WEEKS,
ONE DAY.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] SUCKS ITS
THUMB AT NINE WEEKS.
[WOMAN] OOOH.
[RAY] SO, HAVE YOU CHANGED
YOUR MIND ABOUT ABORTION?
[WOMAN] OF COURSE.
[RAY] ARE YOU
GONNA VOTE PRO-LIFE?
[WOMAN] YES.
YES.
[RAY] SO, YOU'VE CHANGED
YOUR MIND ABOUT ABORTION?
[MAN] ACTUALLY,
YOU KNOW WHAT, YEAH.
I HAVE.
[RAY] SO, YOU GONNA
VOTE DIFFERENTLY NOW?
[MAN] YEAH, I WILL.
[RAY] ARE YOU BEGINNING TO
CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS
ISSUE OF ABORTION?
[WOMAN] I MEAN, YES.
I GUESS YOU CAN
SAY YES BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, YOU
HAD GOOD REASONS.
[RAY] SO, IF I
SAID TO YOU, "HEY,
I'M PREGNANT, AND I'M THINKING
OF ABORTING THIS CHILD."
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ME?
[WOMAN] I WOULD TELL
YOU IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA;
BUT, I MEAN...
[RAY] THE "BUT"
IS STILL THERE!
COME ONE, YOU'VE GOT TO
SAY, YOU'VE GOT TO SAY,
"HEY, LADY, DON'T
KILL YOUR CHILD!
THIS IS WRONG,
YOU'VE GOT A CONSCIENCE;
YOU'VE GOT TO FACE GOD
ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
YOU DON'T WANT
THAT ON YOUR HANDS,
THE BLOOD OF YOUR OWN CHILD."
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY ANIMALS
THAT KILL THEIR OWN OFFSPRING?
I MEAN, MOTHERS.
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] HUMANITY DOES.
THAT SHOWS OUR
HEART IS WICKED.
IT'S EVIL.
NOW DO YOU THINK
THERE'S AN AFTERLIFE?
[BRIAN] TO BE
HONEST, I DON'T KNOW;
BUT I COULD REALLY
CARE LESS RIGHT NOW.
[RAY] EVER THINK ABOUT IT?
[BRIAN] NO.
[RAY] ARE YOU AFRAID OF DYING?
[BRIAN] NO.
[RAY] EVER LOST A LOVED ONE?
[BRIAN] YES.
[RAY] DIDN'T THAT
MAKE YOU THINK?
[BRIAN] NO.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW WHAT
A PARADIGM SHIFT IS?
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] LET ME
GIVE YOU ONE, OKAY?
A MAN WHO WAS BLIND GOT ONTO A
BUS, AND A MAN ON THE BUS GAVE
HIM HIS SEAT.
WAS THAT A GOOD THING TO DO?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
IT WAS AN ETHICAL THING.
[RAY] IT WAS ACTUALLY A
VERY BAD THING TO DO.
THE MAN LOST HIS JOB
BECAUSE HE DID IT.
DO YOU KNOW WHY?
[WOMAN] WHY?
[RAY] HE WAS THE BUS DRIVER.
[WOMAN] OH, YEAH.
[RAY] THAT'S WHAT'S
KNOWN AS A PARADIGM SHIFT.
YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING, FOR
SURE IT WAS A GOOD THING,
AND THEN SUDDENLY YOU
BELIEVE SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S BECAUSE I
GAVE YOU KNOWLEDGE.
SO, I WANT TO GIVE YOU
KNOWLEDGE THAT'S GONNA CHANGE
YOUR MIND ABOUT
EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO
BE PATIENT WITH ME,
AND HAVE A HUMBLE,
TEACHABLE ATTITUDE.
CAN YOU DO THAT?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] NOW, DO YOU
BELIEVE IN GOD'S EXISTENCE?
DOES THAT SHAPE YOUR MORALS?
[WOMAN] YES, IT
DOES; BUT, I MEAN,
I'VE NEVER READ THAT
ABORTION IS A SIN.
[RAY] IT'S THE
SIXTH COMMANDMENT.
YOU SHALL NOT KILL.
THAT MEANS YOU
SHALL NOT MURDER.
[WOMAN] YOU'RE RIGHT.
[RAY] THE BIBLE SAYS
IF YOU HATE SOMEONE,
YOU'RE A MURDERER.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
THAT'S HOW HIGH
GOD'S STANDARDS ARE.
SO, DO YOU THINK
YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON?
[WOMAN] I WOULD THINK SO, YES.
[RAY] DO YOU BELIEVE
IN GOD'S EXISTENCE?
[WOMAN] YES, I DO.
[RAY] WHAT DOES HE
THINK OF ABORTION?
[WOMAN] I KNOW IN THE BIBLE
PEOPLE ARGUE THAT THOU SHALL
NOT KILL, THOU
SHALL NOT...YOU KNOW,
ALL OF THE THINGS.
[RAY] THE BOOK OF JEREMIAH:
"BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN THE
WOMB, I KNEW YOU."
THAT'S WHAT GOD
SAID TO JEREMIAH.
IT'S A PERSON, IT'S A
LIFE; AND WHO ARE WE TO SAY,
"OH, IT'S NOT A LIFE."
THAT'S WHAT THE
NAZIS DID WITH THE JEWS.
THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT HUMAN.
THAT'S WHY WE CAN KILL THEM.
AND THEY KILLED SIX MILLION
JEWS BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY'RE
NOT HUMAN.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DO
TO JUSTIFY ABORTION IN THIS
NATION.
WE'RE LIVING IN
DAYS OF A HOLOCAUST.
THERE'S A BIG SIGH.
WHY DID YOU SIGH?
I'M PLEADING FOR THE
LIFE OF HUMAN BEINGS.
[WOMAN] YOU'RE BORING ME.
YOU...
[RAY] LET ME ASK
ANOTHER QUESTION,
I'LL CHANGE THE SUBJECT
BECAUSE IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE FOR
YOU: MADDIE, DO YOU
THINK YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON?
[MADDIE] I DO.
I TRY.
[RAY] HOW MANY LIES DO YOU
THINK YOU'VE TOLD IN YOUR
LIFE?
[MADDIE] SEVERAL.
[RAY] EVER STOLEN SOMETHING?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] HAVE YOU EVER
USED GOD'S NAME IN VAIN?
[MADDIE] YES, EVEN TODAY.
I GOT MY LUNCH
BOX STOLEN, SO I,
YEAH, I WAS PRETTY MAD.
[RAY] WELL, WHEN YOU WANNA
USE A FILTH WORD TO EXPRESS
DISGUST, GOD'S NAME IS USED
AND IT'S CALLED BLASPHEMY.
IT'S VERY SERIOUS.
I'VE HEARD YOU DO IT
TWICE SINCE I MET YOU.
[WOMAN] REALLY?
[RAY] IT'S VERY SERIOUS TO
USE GOD'S NAME AS A CUSS WORD
BECAUSE HE GAVE YOU LIFE.
HE GAVE YOU THE
BLOOD IN YOUR VEINS,
THE BONES THAT HOLD
EVERYTHING TOGETHER,
THE SKIN HOLDS
IT IN, THE EYES,
THE EARS, THE TASTE
BUDS THAT ENJOY GOOD FOOD.
HE GAVE YOU THIS FREE
COUNTRY, HE GAVE YOU A FAMILY,
AND LOVE, AND LAUGHTER, AND
ALL THESE THINGS - AND YOU
USED HIS NAME AS A CUSS WORD.
IT'S VERY BAD.
JESUS SAID IF YOU AS
MUCH AS LOOK WITH LUST,
YOU COMMIT
ADULTERY IN YOUR HEART.
EVER LOOKED AT A GUY
WITH SEXUAL DESIRE?
[WOMAN] YEAH.
[RAY] CHERRY, I'M
NOT JUDGING YOU,
BUT YOU'VE JUST TOLD ME
YOU'RE A LYING THIEF,
A BLASPHEMER, AND AN
ADULTERER AT HEART.
AND YOU HAVE TO FACE
GOD ON JUDGMENT DAY.
IF HE JUDGES YOU BY THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS--WE'VE LOOKED AT
FOUR OF THEM--ARE YOU GOING
TO BE INNOCENT OR GUILTY?
[BRIAN] WELL, I MEAN,
IF YOU CALL ME ALL THAT,
THEN I GUESS I'M
NOT GONNA SAY NO.
BECAUSE I DID STEAL FOOD SO I
COULD FEED MYSELF AND FEED MY
MOTHER AND MY BROTHERS, SO...
[RAY] YOU KNOW, IF
YOU'RE LACKING FOOD,
GO TO ANY CHURCH,
THEY'LL FEED YOU.
THE GOVERNMENT EVEN
PROVIDES ORGANIZATIONS.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STEAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO STEAL, WE'LL
JUST GO TO YOUR LOCAL CHURCH
AND SAY, "MY
FAMILY NEEDS FOOD."
THEY'LL GIVE YOU FOOD.
MOST CHURCHES HAVE FOOD BANKS.
SO DON'T BE A THIEF FOR
THE SAKE OF YOUR FAMILY.
SO HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION:
IF GOD JUDGES YOU BY THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS ON JUDGMENT DAY,
ARE YOU GONNA BE INNOCENT OR
GUILTY?
[CHERRY] TOTALLY GUILTY.
[RAY] HEAVEN OR HELL?
[CHERRY] HELL.
[RAY] DO YOU
KNOW WHAT DEATH IS?
[WOMAN] DEATH?
NO.
[RAY] IT'S ACTUALLY WAGES.
THE BIBLE SAYS, "THE
WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH."
IN THE SAME WAY, IF A
MAN COMMITS MURDER,
THE JUDGE WILL GIVE HIM WHAT
HE EARNED: THE DEATH SENTENCE.
THAT'S HIS WAGES.
THAT'S WHAT HE DESERVES.
AND GOD HAS GIVEN US THE WAGES
OF DEATH BECAUSE OF OUR SINS.
BECAUSE LYING AND STEALING AND
BLASPHEMY AND ADULTERY AND ALL
THOSE THINGS AND THE KILLING
OF BABIES IN THE WOMB DESERVE
THE DEATH SENTENCE,
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.
SO YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE.
CAN YOU SEE THAT?
[BRIAN] I GUESS.
[RAY] NOW TELL ME, WHAT DID
GOD DO FOR GUILTY SINNERS SO
WE WOULDN'T HAVE
TO GO TO HELL?
ANY IDEA?
[BRIAN] NO.
[CHERRY] I DON'T WANT
TO ASSUME THE ANSWER.
I FEEL LIKE I'LL
FIND OUT ONCE I DIE.
[RAY] WELL, THEN IT'LL BE TOO
LATE BECAUSE YOU DIE IN YOUR
SINS, AND THE BIBLE
SAYS YOU'LL BE DAMNED,
BECAUSE GOD IS
PERFECT AND HOLY AND JUST.
HE'LL BY NO MEANS
CLEAR THE GUILTY.
ARE YOU AFRAID OF DYING?
[CHERRY] I'M
AFRAID OF THE PAIN;
BUT I'M NOT AFRAID OF DYING.
[RAY] WELL, AFTER
DEATH COMES JUDGMENT.
GOD'S GONNA HAVE HIS DAY
OF JUSTICE WHEN HE PUNISHES
RAPISTS AND MURDERERS; BUT
HE'S SO GOOD AND SO THOROUGH
HE'S GONNA PUNISH THIEVES
AND LIARS AND BLASPHEMERS AND
FORNICATORS AND ADULTERERS.
AND THAT PUTS ALL OF
US IN BIG TROUBLE.
AND SO, YOU MAY NOT BE
CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE HEADING
FOR HELL, BUT IT
BREAKS MY HEART.
I'M, I'VE GOT TEARS IN
MY HEART BECAUSE OF THAT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING.
YOU'RE NOT A
BEAST OR AN ANIMAL.
YOU'VE GOT WORTH.
YOU'RE CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE.
WELL, JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS
TO TAKE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THE
SIN OF THE WORLD,
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THAT;
BUT YOU MAY NOT
HAVE HEARD THIS,
BRIAN.
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
ARE CALLED THE MORAL LAW.
WE BROKE GOD'S LAW,
AND JESUS PAID THE FINE.
THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED ON THE CROSS;
THAT'S WHY HE CRIED
OUT JUST BEFORE HE DIED,
"IT IS FINISHED."
IN OTHER WORDS, THE
DEBT HAS BEEN PAID.
IF YOU'RE IN COURT AND
SOMEONE PAYS YOUR FINE,
EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GUILTY,
THE JUDGE CAN LET YOU GO.
HE CAN SAY, "LOOK,
JESSICA IS GUILTY;
BUT SOMEONE'S PAID HER FINE.
SHE'S OUTTA HERE."
AND HE CAN DO THAT
WHICH IS LEGAL AND RIGHT.
AND GOD CAN FORGIVE ALL THOSE
SECRET SINS IN AN INSTANT AND
GRANT YOU EVERLASTING
LIFE AS A FREE GIFT,
LEGALLY, BECAUSE OF WHAT JESUS
DID ON THE CROSS THROUGH HIS
DEATH AND RESURRECTION.
JUST AS A JUDGE CAN
LET A CRIMINAL GO,
EVEN THOUGH HE'S
GUILTY, LEGALLY,
BECAUSE SOMEONE PAID THE FINE.
WELL, GOD CAN LET
YOU LIVE FOREVER,
COMMUTE YOUR DEATH SENTENCE,
BECAUSE OF THE DEATH AND
RESURRECTION OF THE SAVIOR.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS
REPENT AND TRUST IN JESUS.
IT'S THE TRUSTING IN
CHRIST THAT SAVES YOU.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE
GONNA JUMP OUT OF A PLANE,
IT'S THE TRUSTING IN THE
PARACHUTE THAT WILL SAVE YOU.
YOU PUT IT ON, TRUST IN IT,
IT'S GONNA SAVE YOU FROM THE
CONSEQUENCES OF
GRAVITY, OR VIOLATING GRAVITY.
AND THE MOMENT
YOU TRUST IN JESUS,
GOD WILL REMIT YOUR SINS,
GRANT YOU EVERLASTING LIFE,
CLOTHE YOU IN RIGHTEOUSNESS;
SO ON JUDGMENT DAY,
YOU'RE FREE FROM THE
DEMANDS OF JUSTICE.
IF YOU DIDN'T
BELIEVE IN GRAVITY,
AND YOU WERE GONNA
JUMP WITHOUT A PARACHUTE;
I'D PLEAD WITH YOU AND SAY,
"PLEASE PUT THE PARACHUTE ON."
AND THAT'S WHAT
I'M DOING TODAY;
I'M SAYING, CHERRY, GOD'S
PROVIDED A SAVIOR SO YOU CAN
BE SAVED FROM DEATH AND HELL.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
LET GO OF YOUR SINS,
WHICH YOU LOVE.
WE ALL LOVE OUR SINS.
WE LOVE THE
DARKNESS, WE HATE THE LIGHT.
AND PROOF OF WHAT'S HAPPENING
TO YOU IS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE
BEEN TRYING TO JUSTIFY
THE KILLING OF CHILDREN,
EVEN THOUGH YOU
KNOW IT'S WRONG.
YOUR NATURAL INSTINCT
IS TO LOVE CHILDREN.
IF YOU GOT
PREGNANT AND GAVE BIRTH,
YOU WOULD LOVE THAT
CHILD WITH ALL YOUR HEART.
YOU'D GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR IT.
YOU'D SACRIFICE WILLINGLY,
BECAUSE GOD'S GIVEN YOU AN
INSTINCT TO LOVE
YOUR OFFSPRING.
AND TO WANT TO KILL IT FOR
SELFISH REASONS IS THE EPITOME
OF EVIL, AS YOU
SAID EARLIER ON.
AND GOD CAN CHANGE THAT, HE
CAN FORGIVE THOSE SINS AND
GRANT YOU EVERLASTING LIFE AS
A FREE GIFT IF YOU'LL GIVE UP
THE BATTLE, REPENT,
AND TRUST IN CHRIST.
CHERRY, I SO APPRECIATE
YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME;
AND FOR STAYING WITH ME AND
LISTENING TO WHAT I HAD TO
SAY.
I RESPECT THAT AND
HONOR YOU FOR IT.
AT THE MOMENT, YOU'RE TRUSTING
IN YOUR GOODNESS TO SAVE YOU.
YOU'RE LIKE A MAN ON A PLANE,
HE'S GONNA JUMP AND THIS IS
HIS PLAN: HE'S
GONNA FLAP HIS ARMS.
HE'S GONNA TRY
AND SAVE HIMSELF.
SO, DON'T DO THAT;
TRUST THE PARACHUTE.
AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO
IS TRANSFER YOUR TRUST FROM
YOURSELF TO THE SAVIOR.
IT'S A LIFE-AND-DEATH
ISSUE; THE MOMENT YOU DO THAT,
YOU'RE NOT STANDING IN YOUR
OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS - YOU'RE
STANDING IN THE
RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST.
YOUR SINS ARE
FORGIVEN, YOU'RE WASHED,
YOU'RE CLEANSED; YOU'RE
GRANTED GOD'S GIFT OF
EVERLASTING LIFE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
[WOMAN] MHMM.
[RAY] SO, IF I WERE YOU, IN
THE QUIETNESS OF MY HEART,
I'D JUST GO SOMEWHERE AND SAY,
"GOD I DIDN'T REALIZE SIN WAS
SO SERIOUS IN YOUR EYES.
IT DEMANDS THE DEATH SENTENCE,
AND I'D BE DAMNED IF YOU
JUDGED ME BY MY THOUGHT
LIFE FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF
HOLINESS.
PLEASE FORGIVE MY SINS AND I
TRUST JESUS AS MY SAVIOR THIS
DAY.
CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART."
AND HE WILL TRANSFER
YOU OUT OF THE DARKNESS,
INTO LIGHT.
AND YOU'LL MAKE A
STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS;
YOU'LL SAY TO PEOPLE,
"PLEASE DON'T KILL YOUR KID."
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT
A REASON TO NOW;
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT
A LOVE FOR THE GOD WHO LOVES
RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND YOU WANT TO
STAND FOR THAT WHICH IS RIGHT.
AND SO, NEXT TIME YOU
VOTE, YOU GONNA VOTE PRO-LIFE?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO
IS REPENT AND TRUST IN HIM.
STAR, THE MINUTE YOU DO THAT,
GOD WILL FORGIVE EVERY SIN
YOU'VE EVER COMMITTED
AND GRANT YOU THE GIFT OF
EVERLASTING LIFE.
BOY, I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU LISTENING TO ME;
AND I KNOW YOU'RE IN A HURRY,
AND YOU STAYED OUT OF COURTESY
AND LISTENED.
I HOPE YOU'LL
THINK ABOUT THIS,
BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT;
YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE
GONNA DIE.
AND THE FRUIT OF BEING A
CHRISTIAN IS THAT YOU WILL
LOVE LIFE AND YOU'LL PROTECT
THE INNOCENCE OF A CHILD IN
THE WOMB WITH EVERY
OUNCE OF ENERGY YOU'VE GOT,
AS THOUGH YOU'RE
LIVING IN NAZI GERMANY,
AND YOU COULD SAVE JEWS.
YOU WOULD RUN AROUND DOING
WHAT YOU COULD TO SAVE THESE
PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO; WE'RE NOT
INFRINGING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S
RIGHTS.
NOT WANTING TO
TELL YOU WHAT TO DO;
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SAVE THE
LIVES OF INNOCENT BABIES IN
THE WOMB.
SO, WOULD YOU PLEASE THINK
ABOUT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
TODAY?
[WOMAN] I PROMISE YOU
I WILL THINK ABOUT IT,
YEAH, LATER.
[RAY] WELL,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH;
AND YOU CAN KEEP
THAT LITTLE BOOKLET.
CAN YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING?
[BRIAN] A LITTLE BIT.
[RAY] A LITTLE BIT?
[BRIAN] YEAH.
[RAY] YOU KNOW,
AS FRUIT OF THAT,
YOU KNOW WHAT'LL HAPPEN?
YOU'LL SAY IT'S
WRONG TO LIE, AND STEAL,
AND COMMIT ADULTERY.
GOD WILL GIVE YOU A NEW HEART
THAT LOVES RIGHTEOUSNESS.
YOU'LL SAY IT'S WRONG TO
KILL A BABY IN THE WOMB.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN YOU BECOME A CHRISTIAN.
GOD TAKES THAT
SINFUL, SELFISH,
EVIL HEART OF OURS; AND
TRANSFORMS US SO WE LOVE
RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND LOVE GOD.
BRIAN, DOES IT MAKE
SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING?
[BRIAN] A LITTLE BIT.
[RAY] JUST A LITTLE BIT?
WELL, I HOPE
YOU'LL THINK ABOUT IT.
WILL YOU THINK
ABOUT IT, A LITTLE BIT?
[BRIAN] YEAH.
[RAY] OKAY, THANKS
FOR TALKING TO ME,
BRIAN, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
[BRIAN] NO PROBLEM MAN.
[RAY] WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO,
ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES,
IS REPENT OF ALL SIN; AND
TRUST IN HIM LIKE YOU TRUST A
PARACHUTE.
AND AS EVIDENCE
THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT,
IS YOU'LL HAVE
LOVE IN YOUR HEART,
GOODNESS, KINDNESS,
AND YOU WOULD NEVER,
EVER ADVOCATE THE MURDER OF A
CHILD IN A WOMB IF YOU LOVE
GOD.
YOU'D STAND FOR
RIGHTEOUSNESS AND SAY "OH,
IT'S WRONG FOR A
WOMAN TO KILL A CHILD."
MADDIE THANKS FOR
YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME,
I REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S BEEN VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE FOR YOU,
BUT I JUST HOPE THAT YOU'LL
THINK ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED
ABOUT TODAY.
WILL YOU DO THAT?
[MADDIE] SURE.
[RAY] YOU MEAN THAT?
[MADDIE] YES, I DO.
TRUST ME, I'LL BE
TALKING ABOUT IT ALL NIGHT.
[CHERRY] WELL, I JUST WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY
EYES ON THE PART WHERE YOU
TOLD ME HOW MY MOTHER DIDN'T
ABORT ME.
THAT'S VERY TOUCHING, AND SO,
IT DID CHANGE MY PERSPECTIVE
ON ABORTION.
I JUST NEED TO
FIND, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
I WANT TO RESEARCH MYSELF MORE
ETHICAL LAWS AND UNETHICAL.
[RAY] THAT'S VERY
NICE OF YOU TO SAY THAT,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET ME GIVE YOU SOMETHING
TO CHECK OUT IN A MINUTE.
IT'S A LITTLE BOOKLET ON
THE SUBJECT OF PRO-LIFE.
THANKS FOR TALKING TO
ME, I APPRECIATE IT,
CHERRY.
[WOMAN] THANK YOU.
[MUSIC] 
[RAY] DID YOU KNOW THE HEART
STARTS BEATING AT THREE WEEKS,
ONE DAY?
[WOMAN] OH, NO, I
DID NOT KNOW THAT.
[RAY] THINK IT'S OKAY FOR AN
ABORTION WHEN THE HEART BEGINS
TO BEAT?
[WOMAN] NO.
[RAY] THAT'S A
NINE-WEEK-OLD BABY.
IF YOU HAD TO KILL THAT CHILD,
HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'D DO IT?
[WOMAN] HOW WOULD I DO IT?
[RAY] YEAH, IF IT WAS
YOUR JOB TO KILL IT,
HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?
[WOMAN] I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULDN'T SAY HOW TO KILL IT.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
HOW THEY KILL IT?
[WOMAN] WELL,
FOR ME, HONESTLY,
I WOULD NEVER ABORT; EVEN
IF I WAS PREGNANT RIGHT NOW.
[RAY] DO YOU KNOW
HOW THEY KILL IT?
[WOMAN] KIND OF.
THAT THEY LIKE BREAK
THE ARMS AND LEGS FIRST,
OR THE HEAD AND...
[RAY] NO, THEY CRUSH THE HEAD,
LOOK AT THE LITTLE PICTURE
AGAIN.
THEY CRUSH THAT HEAD AND THEN
THEY RIP THE ARMS AND LEGS
OFF.
AND THEN THEY PUT IT ON A
TABLE TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT
ALL THE BITS.
PRETTY HORRIBLE, ISN'T IT?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] YOU STILL THINK IT'S
A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?
OPEN THAT UP AND IT'S GOT A
PICTURE OF A NINE-WEEK-OLD
BABY.
[WOMAN] THAT'S CRAZY.
[RAY] WOULD YOU TAKE
THE LIFE OF THAT BABY?
[WOMAN] I CAN NEVER.
[RAY] AT NINE WEEKS,
IT SUCKS ITS THUMB.
IT'S GOT FEET AND TOES AND
FINGERS AND EYES THAT ARE
DEVELOPING.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
[WOMAN] I DIDN'T.
I DID NOT ACTUALLY, NO.
[RAY] WELL, LET ME
ASK YOU ONE QUESTION,
AND THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER:
IT'S OKAY TO KILL A BABY IN
THE WOMB WHEN?
[WOMAN] IT'S NOT.
YEAH, IT'S REALLY NOT.
[WOMAN] IT'S NOT.
[RAY] THAT'S A
NINE-WEEK-OLD BABY.
[WOMAN] YEP.
[RAY] SO YOU THINK IT'S
OKAY TO KILL THAT BABY?
[WOMAN] LIKE I SAID, IF THE
CIRCUMSTANCES CALL FOR IT.
[RAY] THERE ARE THOUSANDS
OF COUPLES WAITING TO ADOPT
CHILDREN AND BRING
THEM UP IN A LOVING HOME.
ISN'T THAT A VIABLE OPTION,
RATHER THAN KILLING THE CHILD?
[WOMAN] OH YEAH,
MOST DEFINITELY.
BUT IT'S ALSO, IT'S STILL
PUTTING THE MOTHER THROUGH
THAT NINE MONTHS OF PREGNANCY.
AND IT'S EXTREMELY
EXCRUCIATING ON THE BODY TO GO
THROUGH A PREGNANCY
AND THROUGH A BIRTH.
[RAY] BUT YOUR
MOTHER DID THAT FOR YOU.
IT'S CALLED SACRIFICE.
[WOMAN] YEAH, BUT I
DIDN'T ASK HER TO.
[RAY] YEAH, BUT SHE
DIDN'T ABORT YOU.
AND YOU'VE GOT LIFE,
AND IT'S PRECIOUS TO YOU.
WOULD YOU SELL ONE OF YOUR
EYES FOR A MILLION DOLLARS?
[WOMAN] PROBABLY NOT.
[RAY] WOULD YOU SELL
BOTH FOR A HUNDRED MILLION?
[WOMAN] PROBABLY NOT.
[RAY] AND YOUR EYES ARE JUST
THE WINDOWS YOU LOOK THROUGH,
THINK HOW MUCH YOU VALUE LIFE.
[WOMAN] I'M SUICIDAL
ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I HAVE MY PSYCHIATRIC
MEDICINES WITH ME TOO.
I WISH MY MOM
WOULD'VE ABORTED ME;
BUT, MY UBER IS HERE,
SO I GOT TO TAKE OFF.
[RAY] OKAY, NICE
TO TALK TO YOU.
BYE-BYE.
[WOMAN] YOU TOO.
[RAY] THAT'S A
NINE-WEEK-OLD BABY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DISMEMBER.
THEY CRUSH THE HEAD AND
RIP THE ARMS AND LEGS OFF.
AND THAT'S A
MODERN-DAY ABORTION.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
[MAN] NO, I DID NOT.
SO, THEY CRUSH THE BABY,
RIP THE ARMS AND LEGS OFF,
WHILE IT'S A LIVING PERSON?
[RAY] WELL, THAT'S A
NINE-WEEK-OLD BABY.
[WOMAN] WOW.
THIS IS...WOW.
[RAY] SO, HAVE YOU CHANGED
YOUR MIND ABOUT ABORTION
TODAY?
[WOMAN] I MEAN, YES, I DID.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YEAH, I DO UNDERSTAND IT
IS WRONG AND IT SHOULD BE
STOPPED.
[RAY] YOU GONNA
VOTE DIFFERENTLY?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] YOU GONNA VOTE PRO-LIFE?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] YOU'VE
CHANGED YOUR MIND?
[WOMAN] YES.
[RAY] THAT'S A NINE-WEEK BABY.
[JESSICA] NO WAY.
ACTUALLY SEEING IT
PHYSICALLY IN THIS PICTURE,
KINDA LIKE, PUT
ME TO THINK, LIKE,
YOU KNOW.
[RAY] TWO THINGS YOU MUST DO
TO BE SAVED: YOU MUST REPENT
AND TRUST ALONE IN JESUS.
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT?
[JESSICA] TODAY.
[RAY] SERIOUS?
[JESSICA] I'M SERIOUS.
[MAN] BUT I'M PRO-CHOICE,
MOST CERTAINLY PRO-CHOICE.
[RAY] WHAT'S A GOOD
REASON FOR KILLING THAT BABY?
[MAN] WELL, I GUESS LET'S
BEGIN WITH WHAT...DEFINE BABY.
[MAN] I MEAN IT'S, I
MEAN IT'S JUST AN ORGAN.
IT'S NOT A LIVING
THING, YOU KNOW?
I MEAN.
[RAY] WELL, I HEARD YOU
THREE TIMES SINCE YOU STARTED
TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE
OF CALLING IT A CHILD.
DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S
A BABY IN THE WOMB?
[MAN] NOT YET.
IT'S STILL AN ORGAN.
[RAY] WHEN DOES
IT BECOME A BABY?
[MAN] WHEN IT'S
ALREADY FULLY FUNCTIONAL,
AND IT HAS A BRAIN.
[RAY] YEAH, THAT
HAPPENS IN THE EARLY STAGES.
IT GETS FINGERS AND EYES AND A
MOUTH AND IT'S FULLY FORMED IN
THE WOMB.
[MAN] ARE WE
DEFINING JUST A HEART?
I MEAN.
[RAY] WOULD YOU LIKE TO
SEE A PICTURE OF A BABY?
I'LL SHOW YOU ONE
AT ABOUT NINE WEEKS,
HANG ON A SECOND.
SO, IT'S OKAY TO
KILL THAT BABY WHEN?
[MAN] UM, IT'S NEVER OKAY.
I MEAN...
[RAY] HAVE YOU JUST CHANGED
YOUR MIND ABOUT ABORTION?
[MAN] I'VE JUST
CHANGED MY MIND.
[RAY] SO, YOU GONNA VOTE
DIFFERENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO
ABORTION?
[MAN] YES, YES.
AFTER, I MEAN, YOU PUT
THIS IN FRONT OF ME;
AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S
EASY FOR ME TO SAY,
"WELL, IT'S JUST A
FETUS WITH ARMS AND LEGS";
BUT YOU PUT THIS
IN FRONT OF ME,
AND I COULD TELL
YOU THAT'S A CHILD.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T
THINK IT'S OKAY TO KILL A
BABY.
[MUSIC] 
[MUSIC] 
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[CROWD CHANTING]
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!
HER BODY, HER CHOICE!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!
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