Like everyone else who has
seen Wild Wild Country,
I was intrigued by the fearless Sheela.
I have served 39 months in prison,
and that should be enough.
This is Bhagwan Rajneesh,
a popular Indian guru who ran a commune
in Oregon in the early 1980s.
Fifteen thousand dedicated followers gave away
their wealth to build a city for him.
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the Bhagwan and his personal secretary.
Ma Anand Sheela was the mastermind
behind the guru's success.
And I wondered if she had changed?
Was she happy?
Does she have any regrets?
Does she have any regrets?
Sheela invited me to her home...
and I found out.
Bhagwan had a good carrot,
in front of his people:
in front of his people:
Meditation and enlightenment.
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When he had enough, or when he wanted
to help me with finances,
so my work becomes a little easier,
he dangled the carrot of enlightenment,
he declared a few people enlightened.
It was a hoax?
In that sense, yes.
But these were the 'sane' people who
ran after this hoax.
So don't just blame Bhagwan,
blame the 'sane' people.
I was never interested in his
power and his position.
What were you interested in Sheela?
Bhagwan.
My love for him.
No other reason.
And sex was never an issue between us.
I had enough lovers of my own.
After years as his closest confidante,
the inseparable Bhagwan and Sheela fell out.
Bhagwan accused her of being the
mastermind behind a series of crimes.
Sheela, a former secretary of the Bhagwan Rajneesh,
faces charges of fraud and attempted murder in Oregon.
My only question to her was: 'Why?'
You know they were innocent people, I mean why?
I don't want to discuss, for only one reason,
I have served 39 months in prison,
and that should be enough.
People can not punish me for the rest of my life.
But the mentality of the people, they only 
want to go on, on scandals.
Because their lives are full of scandals.
Do you think it was a scandal?
Well Bhagwan created enough scandal.
I am courageous enough
to say that.
I even told him
to his face.
Whoever wants to accuse me,
I have done no criminal act.
I look in your eyes and I say 
it with conviction,
the same conviction how I had
loved Bhagwan.
The saddest moment of my life was when I heard
that Bhagwan gave in to his 
anger so badly against me.
There is no logic.
And you want logical answers?
It can not happen.
And you have all made up your
mind that Rajneeshees were wrong...
No, I'm asking you.
Well I'm telling you but you're not ready
to accept my answer.
Better to leave the theme here.
Over two decades on Sheela lives in Switzerland,
but has she found her peace?
where she manages two care homes.
I live a simple life,
because what I have,
the experience under my belt,
no other woman can say that they 
have such experience.
I enjoy working,
I enjoy being with people.
There is nothing different.
There I was working with 
certified sane people,
here I work with
certified sick people.
People are the same, people's
being is the same.
When existence and nature has so much trust in me,
people can say what they want to.
Regardless of what people think of her
it's really hard to know who the real Sheela is.
Thirty years ago this woman was found guilty
of poisoning people.
I don't regret, I will never regret.
She says she has no regrets,
but is this new life Sheela's way
of redeeming herself?
