>>> BREAKING NEWS, BEN CARSON 
SURGING.
HE'S LEADING IN THE NEW NATIONAL
ORC POLL JUST RELEASED.
UP SEVEN POINTS FROM EARLY 
OCTOBER AND NOW SIX POINTS OF 
JEB BUSH.
JEFF ZELENY IS "OUTFRONT."
WE'VE SEEN IN MULTIPLE TIMES IN 
MULTIPLE POLLS.
IS THIS A TURNING POINT?
>> ERIN, IT COULD BE A TURNING 
POINT.
THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE NOW 
SEEMS TO BE SAYING THEY LIKE BEN
CARSON.
OF COURSE, HIS DEMEANOR COULD 
NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT THAN 
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP WAS THE LEADER 
THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND INTO 
THE EARLY FALL.
THEY LIKED HIS BRASHNESS.
THEY LIKED HOW SHARP HIS EDGES 
WERE.
I MEAN, BEN CARSON IS 
ESSENTIALLY THE OPPOSITE OF 
THAT.
THAT'S WHY I FIND THIS SO 
INTERESTING.
IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A TREND.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HOLD 
INTO THE FALL.
THIS RACE IS VERY DYNAMIC.
IT'S CHANGING.
RIGHT NOW, BEN CARSON IS THE MAN
TO BEAT HERE.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF HIS POLICY 
POSITIONS, NECESSARILY.
HE'S NOT GIVEN THAT MANY 
SPECIFIC POLICY POSITIONS.
I THINK IT'S MORE THAT THEY ARE 
LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO IS, A, 
AN OUTSIDER, LIKE DONALD TRUMP, 
BUT, B, SOMEONE WHOSE VOLUME IS 
NOT TURNED UP AS MUCH AS DONALD 
TRUMP SO NOW THE CHALLENGE IS TO
SEE IF HE CAN HOLD ONTO THIS.
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT GOING 
ANYWHERE HERE AND HE'S YET TO 
SPEND A DIME ON ADVERTISING.
BEN CARSON IS SPENDING ON 
ADVERTISING.
THAT'S FUELING PROBABLY SOME OF 
THIS. 
>> ABSOLUTELY.
DONALD TRUMP IS STILL THE 
FRONT-RUNNER IN MOST POLLS BUT 
THIS IS THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS
SIGNIFICANT.
NOW, MARCO RUBIO -- MANY PEOPLE 
SAY HE WON THE LAST DEBATE.
HE GOT A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT.
HE'S ESSENTIALLY FLAT IN THIS 
POLL.
I UNDERSTAND IT WAS DONE BEFORE 
AND AFTER THE DEBATE. 
>> RIGHT.
THAT'S ONE IMPORTANT THING TO 
KEEP IN MIND HERE.
THE DEBATE WAS CONDUCTED OVER A 
SPAN OF FIVE DAYS.
FOUR DAYS WAS BEFORE THE DEBATE,
ONE DAY WAS AFTER THE DEBATE.
IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY IF MARCO 
RUBIO HAS FLAT-LINED IN A 
NATIONAL SURVEY.
WHERE MARCO RUBIO IS TRYING TO 
JUMP OUT NOW IS IN THE EARLY 
STATES, NEW HAMPSHIRE, IOWA, 
SOUTH CAROLINA.
HE'S TRYING TO JUMP-START HIS 
CAMPAIGN AND GET SUPPORT FROM 
DONORS AND OTHERS LOOKING FOR A 
HORSE WHO CAN GO THE DISTANCE 
HERE.
I THINK MARCO RUBIO IS STILL IN 
GOOD POSITION HERE.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET A LITTLE MORE 
INFORMATION COMING UP TO SEE HOW
MUCH
