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>> Andrew: GOOD EVENING, I'M
ANDREW CHANG.
ADRIENNE IS OFF.
>>> TONIGHT, TEACHERS SOUND THE
ALARM AS KIDS HEAD BACK TO
CLASS.
>> I'VE BEEN NERVOUS ABOUT GOING 
WITH COVID AND STUFF.
>> Andrew: JUST DAYS INTO
QUÉBEC'S SCHOOL YEAR, POSITIVE
CASES, STUDENTS ISOLATED AND IN
ONTARIO TEACHERS SAY THAT IT'S
JUST NOT SAFE TO GO BACK.
>>> BIDEN FIRES BACK.
>> I WANT A SAFE AMERICA, SAFE
FROM FOUR MORE YEARS OF DONALD
TRUMP.
>> Andrew: AS THE PRESIDENT
DEFENDS ONE OF HIS
SUPPORTERS ACCUSED OF KILLING
TWO PEOPLE ON THE STREETS OF
WISCONSIN.
>> President Donald Trump:ESS
THAT HE WAS IN VERY BIG TROUBLE.
HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN
KILLED.
>> Andrew: THE RACE FOR A
POTENTIAL COVID VACCINE.
OTTAWA SECURES MILLIONS MORE
DOSES, BUT WILL CANADIANS BE
WILLING TO GET THE SHOT?
>>> AND THE CONTROVERSIAL PUSH
TO FAST TRACK A VACCINE.
>> I THINK THAT IT IS RIGHT THAT
I CONTRIBUTE.
>> Andrew: THE VOLUNTEERS
WILLING TO BE INFECTED WITH
COVID-19.
>>> THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>>> WELL, KIDS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY HAVE BEEN EAGERLY
WAITING FOR IT.
PARENTS AND TEACHERS DEEPLY
WORRIED ABOUT COVID-19 ARE LESS
ENTHUSIASTIC.
BUT SCHOOLS ARE STARTING TO COME
BACK ONLINE IN CANADA.
THOUSANDS OF ANGLOPHONE STUDENTS
ROARED BACK INTO CLASS IN QUÉBEC
TODAY.
MOST ONTARIO SCHOOLS REOPEN
THEIR DOORS NEXT WEEK WITH OTHER
PROVINCES CLOSE BEHIND.
BUT CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY
REMAIN.
AND TEACHERS IN SEVERAL REGIONS
ARE DIGGING IN THEIR HEELS IN A
FIGHT TO BE HEARD.
NOW BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLANS ARE
DIFFERENT FROM
PROVINCE-TO-PROVINCE, BUT IF
THEY HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON,
IT IS THAT TEACHERS ARE NERVOUS.
TASHAUNA REID STARTS OUR
COVERAGE TONIGHT WITH A LOOK AT
HOW
ENGLISH SCHOOLS IN QUÉBEC ARE
FARING ON DAY ONE.
>> Reporter: MIXED EMOTIONS ON
THE FIRST DAY BACK TO SCHOOL FOR
THOUSANDS OF QUÉBEC'S ENGLISH
STUDENTS.
>> I'VE BEEN NERVOUS ABOUT GOING
WITH COVID AND STUFF, BUT, LIKE, 
I AM VERY EXCITED
>> Reporter: WHY ARE YOU
EXCITED?
>> BECAUSE I GET TO SEE ALL OF
MY FRIENDS -- WELL, MOST OF MY
FRIENDS.
>> WELL, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD,
ACTUALLY.
EVERYBODY IS WEARING MASKS.
>> YOU'RE ON THAT SIDE OF THE
CLASS --
>> Reporter: FOR THE CLASS OF
2021, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
ADJUSTMENTS.
WHILE MANY STUDENTS WEAR MASKS,
NOT ALL ARE REQUIRED TO IN
CLASSROOMS, NOR DO ALL HAVE TO
PHYSICALLY DISTANCE.
SINCE LAST WEEK, FOUR SCHOOLS IN
QUÉBEC HAVE CONFIRMED CASES OF
COVID-19.
SOME 80 STUDENTS AND MORE THAN A
DOZEN STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
ISOLATED.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THEY ARE
MONITORING THE OUTBREAKS CLOSELY
AND ARE WILLING TO SHUT SCHOOLS
IF NECESSARY.
>> WE'RE INVESTIGATING EVERY
CASE, EVERY OUTBREAK, AND WE
INTERVENE IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS.
>> Reporter: THE EXPERIENCE IN
QUÉBEC IS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT MAY
LIE AHEAD FOR OTHER PROVINCES.
ONTARIO'S FOUR MAJOR TEACHERS'
UNIONS ANNOUNCED THEY WILL FILE
CHALLENGES WITH THE LABOUR
BOARD, CLAIMING REOPENING PLANS
VIOLATE WORKPLACE SAFETY LAWS.
AT ISSUE -- LARGE CLASS SIZES,
VENTILATION, AND SCHOOL BUS
TRANSPORTATION.
>> WE HAVE CLASSROOMS WITH NOT
EVEN A METRE PHYSICAL DISTANCING
BETWEEN STUDENTS OR DESKS.
WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE
GOING TO RUN AT FULL CAPACITY.
>> Reporter: PREMIER DOUG FORD
HAD THIS RESPONSE TO THE UNION.
>> Premier Doug Ford: THE
TEACHERS' UNIONS, THEY JUST WANT
TO FIGHT, THEY WANT TO FIGHT
WITH EVERYONE.
I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT WITH YOU.
>> GOING TO SCHOOL IS SO
IMPORTANT, BUT SCHOOL WILL LOOK
A BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
>> Reporter: MEANWHILE
TEACHERS IN B.C. SAY THIS AD
PRODUCED BY
PROVINCIAL HEALTH OFFICIALS,
GIVE A FALSE
IMPRESSION OF WHAT SCHOOL WILL
LOOK LIKE IN TWO WEEKS.
>> THAT WAS NOT A COMMERCIAL
ABOUT WHAT A CLASSROOM WAS GOING
TO LOOK LIKE.
AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ANSWER THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT I
WAS GETTING FROM CHILDREN.
>> Reporter: THE B.C.
TEACHERS' FEDERATION IS PUSHING
FOR SMALLER CLASS SIZES AS TIME
RUNS OUT BEFORE CLASSES RESUME.
TASHAUNA REID, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: NOW CERTAINLY
KEEPING KIDS SAFELY APART WILL
BE A HUGE CHALLENGE.
AND TODAY ALBERTA'S TOP HEALTH
OFFICIAL RESPONDED TO CONCERNS
THAT THE PROVINCE HAS SUDDENLY
REMOVED PHYSICAL DISTANCING
RULES FROM THE CLASSROOM.
>> I MUST BE CLEAR THAT THE
ORDER THAT WAS ISSUED THIS
WEEKEND DOES NOT CHANGE OUR
POLICY OR MY ADVICE.
REPORTS THAT INDICATE OTHERWISE
ARE NOT ACCURATE.
NO POLICY HAS CHANGED SINCE
MANDATORY MASKING WAS ANNOUNCED
ON AUGUST 4th.
>> Andrew: NOW THE ORDER SAYS
SCHOOLS DO NOT NEED TO KEEP
STUDENTS, STAFF AND VISITORS TWO
METRES APART.
UPSET TEACHERS CALL THAT A TOTAL
REVERSAL.
BUT DR. DEENA HINSHAW SAYS THAT
MANDATORY TWO-METRE DISTANCING
WAS NEVER
PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
NOW WE HAVE INFECTIOUS DISEASES
SPECIALIST DR. LYNORA SAXINGER
JOINING US FROM EDMONTON.
BECAUSE, DR. SAXINGER, JUST WHAT
DR. HINSHAW WAS SAYING TODAY
THAT MANDATORY DISTANCING NOT TO
BE REQUIRED IN CLASSROOMS,
SHOULD PARENTS BE CONCERNED
ABOUT THAT?
>> I THINK THAT THERE'S A FAIR
AMOUNT OF ANXIETY AROUND THIS,
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK THAT THE GUIDELINE WHEN
YOU READ IT DOESN'T SAY THAT
THERE WILL NOT BE DISTANCING.
I THINK THAT IT SAYS THAT NO ONE
WILL BE MEASURING THE DISTANCE,
AND THEY ARE SUGGESTING
THAT IT WILL BE AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT
DISTANCING IS ACTUALLY ONE OF
SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
BE HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLS.
SO THE HAND HYGIENE, THE
COHORTING, THE SYMPTOMS
SCREENING, ALL ACTUALLY SHOULD
BE USEFUL AS WELL AS THE CONTROL
OF COMMUNITY SPREAD IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO REDUCE THE RATES OF
SPREAD IN SCHOOL.
AND I THINK THERE'S A STRONG
IMPRESSION THAT IF A SINGLE KID
COMES INTO SCHOOL INFECTED
BUT WITHOUT MANY SYMPTOMS AND
DOESN'T GET SCREENED OUT, THAT
THERE
COULD BE WIDESPREAD INFECTION IN
THE SCHOOLS.
THAT WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION, AND
NOT THE RULE.
EVEN IN HOUSEHOLDS WE SEE A 10%,
15% INFECTION RATE WITH PEOPLE
WHO LIVE TOGETHER WITH SOMEONE
WHO IS INFECTED AND IT'S
DECREASED BY THESE MEASURES.
AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A
GREY ZONE OF EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AS
RESPONSIBLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
INTERESTING INSIGHT INTO THAT,
DR. SAXINGER, GOOD TO TALK TO
YOU.
AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU A BIT
LATER IN THE PROGRAMME AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> Andrew: NOW SAFETY IN
SCHOOLS IS
CERTAINLY TIED TO INFECTION
RATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
TODAY ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC STILL
REPORTING MORE THAN 100 NEW
CASES DAILY.
114 IN ONTARIO.
140 IN QUÉBEC.
MANITOBA'S NEW CASE COUNT IS
DOWN SLIGHTLY TODAY, ADDING 28.
BUT ONCE AGAIN CONCERNING
NUMBERS OUT OF THE WEST.
ALBERTA SAW 426 CASES FROM THE
WEEKEND TO TODAY.
AND B.C. REPORTED 294 NEW CASES
OVER THE LAST THREE DAYS.
SO CANADIANS UNDERSTANDABLY
HUNGRY FOR ANY NEWS ON A COVID
VACCINE.
TODAY THE GOVERNMENT SECURED A
MAJOR DEAL WITH TWO U.S. DRUG
COMPANIES.
AND NOT LONG AFTER A PARTNERSHIP
WITH CHINA FELL APART.
TOM PARRY HAS MORE.
>> Reporter: IT'S IN PLACES
LIKE THIS WHERE JUSTIN TRUDEAU
HOPES THE FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19
CAN BE WON.
THE PRIME MINISTER TODAY MEETING
CANADIAN RESEARCHERS WHILE
ANNOUNCING DEALS WITH TWO U.S.
FIRMS WORKING ON A VACCINE.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: THE GOVERNMENT OF
CANADA HAS SIGNED TWO NEW
AGREEMENTS WITH NOVAVAX AND
JOHNSON & JOHNSON TO RESERVE
MILLIONS OF DOSES OF THE
VACCINES THEY'RE DEVELOPING.
>> Reporter: IF THOSE VACCINES
WORK, OTTAWA WILL BUY UP TO
114 MILLION DOSES.
THAT'S IN ADDITION TO ANOTHER
76 MILLION DOSES IT SECURED IN
DEALS PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED WITH
TWO OTHER FIRMS, PFIZER AND
MODERNA.
>> WE ARE INVESTING IN A DIVERSE
PORTFOLIO OF VACCINES TO ENSURE
THAT AS THE SCIENCE PROGRESSES,
CANADIANS HAVE ACCESS TO A SAFE,
EFFECTIVE, AND PROVEN VACCINE.
>> Reporter: THESE POTENTIAL
VACCINES WORK IN DIFFERENT WAYS
AND THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT IT
IS LOOKING AT OTHER POSSIBLE
CANDIDATES.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SETBACKS.
A PROJECT WITH CHINA'S CANSINO
BIOLOGICS COLLAPSED WHEN BEIJING
REFUSED TO SHIP VACCINE SAMPLES
TO CANADIAN RESEARCHERS.
THE GOVERNMENT ALSO BATTLING
FEAR AND SUSPICION FROM A SMALL
BUT VOCAL MOVEMENT OPPOSED TO
VACCINES OR EVEN FACE MASKS.
AND A MORE GENERAL CONCERN --
THAT A VACCINE MAY BE RUSHED
INTO PRODUCTION.
>> SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR,
HEALTH CANADA WILL NOT AUTHORIZE
A VACCINE UNLESS SCIENTIFIC
EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATES THAT IT IS
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE.
>> Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT
OFFERING ASSURANCES THAT IT'S
NOT CUTTING CORNERS AND WON'T
FORCE A VACCINE ON ANYONE.
>> I HAVE LITTLE DOUBT THE
MAJORITY OF CANADIANS WILL BE
WANTING TO GET THE VACCINE.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME PEOPLE
WHO ARE VERY ANTI-VACCINATION,
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A FAIRLY
SMALL GROUP IN CANADA.
AND I WOULD EXPECT IT TO REMAIN
SMALL FOR THIS VACCINE.
>> Reporter: THE HOPE IS THAT
A VACCINE CAN BE DEVELOPED AND
APPROVED FOR USE IN CANADA BY
NEXT YEAR, BUT RESEARCHERS
AREN'T THERE YET, AND THE WORK
CONTINUES.
TOM PARRY, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Andrew: NOW FOR AN IN-DEPTH
PICTURE OF GLOBAL VACCINE
DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN
HEAD TO
cbcnews.ca/VA/VACCINETRACKER.
THERE YOU WILL FIND A LIST OF
COMPANIES THAT ARE WORKING ON
THE VACCINE, AND JUST WHAT KIND
OF VAX SEEN THEY ARE WORKING ON
AND JUST HOW FAR LONG THEY ARE.
>>> WELL, THE VANCOUVER AQUARIUM
IS CLOSING ITS DOORS TO THE
PUBLIC AND LAYING OFF MORE THAN
20 PEOPLE AS IT CONTINUES TO
STRUGGLE FINANCIALLY IN THIS
PANDEMIC.
THE LAYOFFS WILL AFFECT
FULL-TIME, PART-TIME AND CASUAL
POSITIONS.
AND ARE IN ADDITION TO THE MORE
THAN 330 PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
JOBS IN THE SPRING.
SOME STAFF, LIKE VETERINARIANS
AND BIOLOGISTS WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK THOUGH TO CARE FOR THE
ANIMALS.
THE AQUARIUM HAS BEEN STRUGGLING
FOR MONTHS AND RECEIVED
$2 MILLION IN FEDERAL EMERGENCY
FUNDING IN JUNE.
>>> WELL, TOMORROW IS RENT DAY,
AND POSSIBLY A DAY OF RECKONING
FOR MANY SMALL BUSINESSES.
FOR MONTHS THEY HAVE RELIED ON A
FEDERAL SUBSIDY FOR COMMERCIAL
RENT, BUT NOW IT'S GONE.
AS JACQUELINE HANSEN SHOWS US,
FOR SOME THAT SUBSIDY MADE ALL
THE DIFFERENCE.
>> Reporter: MICHAEL ERICSSON
SAYS THAT HIS BUSINESS HAS
SURVIVED THE PANDEMIC SO FAR FOR
ONE CRUCIAL REASON -- HE HASN'T
HAD TO PAY HIS FULL $18,000
RENT.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE'D MAKE
IT AND LITERALLY THE RENT
SUBSIDY SAVED US.
>> Reporter: UNDER THE RENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME, OTTAWA
COVERED HALF AND ERICSSON AND
HIS LANDLORD BOTH PAID 25%.
BUT TODAY MARKS THE END OF THE
PROGRAMME, EVEN THOUGH
BUSINESSES ARE NOWHERE NEAR
NORMAL.
>> THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN
PAY OUR FULL RENT ON THE FIRST
OF THE MONTH.
>> Reporter: TODAY THERE WERE
HINTS THAT MORE HELP COULD BE
COMING, BUT NO SPECIFICS.
>> I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY
BUSINESSES OUT THERE WHO ARE
ANXIOUSLY AWAITING FOR A
RESPONSE FROM US.
AND I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU,
WE ARE
ABSOLUTELY WORKING ON THAT.
>> Reporter: THE CANADIAN
FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT
BUSINESS SAYS THAT RENT RELIEF
IS STILL CRITICAL FOR THE FALL.
>> IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE
CRASHING TOWARDS ANOTHER FIRST
OF THE MONTH WITH SO MUCH
UNCERTAINTY.
>> Reporter: BUT SIMPLY
EXTENDING THE CURRENT PROGRAMME
AGAIN ISN'T NECESSARILY THE
ANSWER.
CRITICS SAY THAT IT PUTS TOO
MUCH POWER IN THE HANDS OF THE
LANDLORD WHO GETS TO CHOOSE
WHETHER OR NOT TO APPLY.
>> TAKE LANDLORDS OUT OF THE
EQUATION AND GET THE HELP
DIRECTLY TO TENANTS.
>> Reporter: THERE IS MORE
MONEY TO GO AROUND.
TODAY THE PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET
OFFICE PROJECTED THE PROGRAMME
WILL ONLY COST ABOUT ONE-THIRD
OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
>> THERE'S ROOM WITHIN THAT
ENVELOPE TO FIX THE FUNDAMENTAL
UNFAIRNESS THAT EXISTS.
>> Reporter: STAN YOGI STILL
ISN'T SURE IF HIS LANDLORD
APPLIED FOR THE SUBSIDY OR NOT.
HE WAITED FOR RELIEF FOR HIS
DOWNTOWN TORONTO PUB AND HE SAYS
THAT HE DIDN'T GET IT.
>> HE JUST LEFT US HANGING ON A
THREAD.
>> Reporter: INSTEAD HE GOT A
BILL FOR FIVE MONTHS OF
OUTSTANDING RENT, $156,000.
HE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IT, SO
AFTER NINE YEARS IN BUSINESS,
THE PUB IS CLOSING.
>> TODAY IS THE LAST DAY FOR US,
UNFORTUNATELY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WALKING AWAY.
>> Reporter: ANY FURTHER
GOVERNMENT HELP HERE IS ALREADY
TOO LATE.
JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: WELL TODAY PRIME
MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAID
THAT ATTACKING MONUMENTS TO
CANADA'S FIRST PRIME MINISTER
DOES NOTHING TO ADVANCE EQUALITY
IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I WAS DEEPLY
DISAPPOINTED BY THE VANDALISM
THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE
WEEKEND.
I UNDERSTAND THE IMPATIENCE, THE
FRUSTRATION OF CANADIANS WHO
FACED SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION
AND RACISM THROUGHOUT THEIR
LIVES.
>> Andrew: PROTESTERS ONCE
AGAIN DEFACED A MONUMENT TO SIR
JOHN A. MacDONALD BECAUSE HIS
POLICIES HARMED INDIGENOUS
CULTURE AND PEOPLE.
BUT TRUDEAU SAID THAT THE RULE
OF LAW MUST BE RESPECTED.
NOW THE QUESTION IS -- WHAT
HAPPENS TO THAT DAMAGED STATUE
IN MONTRÉAL?
>> RIGHT NOW WE'LL RESTORE AND
RE-PUT IN PLACE THE STATUE.
WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN THE
NEXT YEARS ABOUT CHANGES, BUT
RIGHT NOW THE DECISION IS THAT
IT WILL BE RE-PUT IN PLACE.
>> Andrew: EXCEPT HERE'S THE
THING -- THE STATUE ACTUALLY
BELONGS TO MONTRÉAL AND THE CITY
PLANS TO REFLECT ON ITS ULTIMATE
FATE.
THE PIECES HAVE BEEN PUT IN
STORAGE.
>>> WELL, JUST TWO MONTHS TO GO
BEFORE THE U.S. VOTERS PICK
THEIR NEXT PRESIDENT IN A
COUNTRY DEALING WITH UNREST,
PROTESTS, AND A RECKONING OVER
RACIAL INJUSTICE.
TODAY JOE BIDEN RESUMED
IN-PERSON CAMPAIGNING.
AND HE DID IT WITH A POINTED
ATTACK ON DONALD TRUMP.
HERE'S PAUL HUNTER.
>> WELCOME TO PITTSBURGH!
>> Reporter: JOE BIDEN, UNDER
ATTACK FOR THE PAST WEEK BY
DONALD TRUMP, TODAY HE FIRED
BACK.
>> HE'S ROOTING FOR CHAOS AND
VIOLENCE.
THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS, DONALD
TRUMP FAILED TO PROTECT
AMERICANS.
SO NOW HE'S TRYING TO SCARE
AMERICANS.
>> President Donald Trump: NO
ONE WILL BE SAFE IN BIDEN'S
AMERICA --
>> Reporter: IT'S A MESSAGE
MADE REPEATEDLY AT THE
REPUBLICAN CONVENTION LAST WEEK,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE
VIOLENCE NOW IS
HAPPENING ON TRUMP'S WATCH.
DEMONSTRATIONS SPARKED BY RACIAL
INJUSTICES HAVE INCREASINGLY
SEEN AGITATORS, SOME ARMED, SOME
IDENTIFYING AS TRUMP SUPPORTERS,
CONFRONTING PROTESTERS.
IT HAS LED TO HEIGHTENED
VIOLENCE AND DEATH.
>> DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT
THERE WILL BE LESS VIOLENCE IN
AMERICA IF DONALD TRUMP IS
RE-ELECTED?
>> Reporter: BIDEN CALLED
TRUMP TOXIC AND LABELLED TRUMP'S
RESPONSE TO WHAT IS PLAYING OUT
IN AMERICA MISGUIDED AND
DANGEROUS.
>> HE MAY BELIEVE THAT MOUTHING
THE WORDS "LAW AND ORDER" MAKES
HIM STRONG, BUT HIS FAILURE TO
CALL ON HIS OWN SUPPORTERS TO
STOP ACTING AS AN ARMED MALITIA
IN THIS COUNTRY SHOWS HOW WEAK
HE IS.
>> President Donald Trump:
THE SAME TALKING POINTS --
>> Reporter: TONIGHT TRUMP
SEEMED TO DEFEND ONE OF THOSE
APPARENT SUPPORTERS, KYLE
RITTENHOUSE, WHO IS NOW CHARGED
WITH MURDER, ACCUSED OF KILLING
TWO PEOPLE DURING THE UNREST IN
KENOSHA, WISCONSIN, LAST WEEK.
CHASED DOWN BY THOSE WHO
WITNESSED ONE OF THE KILLINGS
THAT RITTENHOUSE STANDS ACCUSED
OF.
>> President Donald Trump: HE
WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM
THEM, I GUESS, IT LOOKS LIKE,
AND THEN HE FELL.
AND THEN THEY VERY VIOLENTLY
ATTACKED HIM.
I GUESS THAT HE WAS IN VERY BIG
TROUBLE.
HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN
KILLED.
BUT IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION.
>> Reporter: TRUMP WILL VISIT
KENOSHA, WISCONSIN, TOMORROW AS
THE WHITE HOUSE PUT IT TODAY TO
GO TO A CITY WHERE AMERICANS ARE
HURTING.
THE STATE'S GOVERNOR HAS URGED
TRUMP TO STAY HOME.
WARNING HIS VISIT MAY WELL MAKE
THINGS WORSE.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: SO AS PAUL
MENTIONED, DONALD TRUMP HEADS
NEXT TO WISCONSIN WHERE PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN PROTESTING SINCE
POLICE REPEATEDLY SHOT JACOB
BLAKE IN THE BACK.
SUSAN ORMISTON IS THERE TONIGHT.
SO, SUSAN, HOW ARE PEOPLE THERE
REACTING TO TRUMP'S VISIT
TOMORROW?
>> Reporter: WELL, TRUMP
MANAGED TO CAST HIMSELF AS THE
SAVIOUR OF KENOSHA BEFORE EVEN
GETTING HERE.
TWEETING THIS MORNING IF IT
WEREN'T FOR HIM INSISTING ON THE
NATIONAL GUARD COMING HERE THAT
THERE WOULD BE NO KENOSHA TODAY,
WHICH REALLY RILED THINGS UP IN
THE LOCAL COUNTY OFFICES TODAY,
WITH ONE EXECUTIVE SAYING THAT
IT WAS A FALSE STATEMENT.
THAT IT WAS THE GOVERNOR WHO
CALLED THE NATIONAL GUARD IN
HERE LONG BEFORE TRUMP GOT
INVOLVED.
BUT IT ENCAPSULATES WHY THE
GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR OF THIS
CITY ASKED THE WHITE HOUSE NOT
TO COME, TO POSTPONE.
THINKING THAT TRUMP'S
DIVISIVENESS COMING HERE AT THIS
TIME COULD FURTHER INFLAME
TENSIONS JUST AS THIS CITY IS
BEGINNING TO CALM DOWN.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU
KNOW,
SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE
HAVE SPOKEN TO LIKE THIS CAR LOT
HERE, WHICH WAS TORCHED DURING
THE RIOTING AND OTHER PLACES
WHICH WERE LOOTED, THEY'RE
SAYING THEY WANT LAW AND ORDER.
AND SAYING THAT THE PRESIDENT'S
MESSAGE MAY RESONATE HERE.
>> Andrew: AND SO, SUSAN,
GIVEN HOW DIVISIVE THE VISIT IS,
WHY IS TRUMP STILL GOING?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT'S NOT
TO, YOU KNOW, TO SOOTHE THOSE
WHO ARE HURTING THE MOST, AS
PAUL WAS SAYING.
BECAUSE THE BLAKE FAMILY IS NOT
MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO.
THIS IS POLITICS, ANDREW.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST COVETED
STATES IN THIS ELECTION.
TRUMP NEEDS WISCONSIN IN ORDER
TO DO THE MATH ON THE PATH TO
VICTORY.
HELD FOR 30 YEARS BY THE
DEMOCRATS, TRUMP WON IT BY THE
THINNEST OF MARGINS BACK IN
2016, AND HE NEEDS IT.
SO IN TWO WEEKS HE WOULD HAVE
BEEN HERE TWO TIMES, WHILE JOE
BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS
CANCELLED THEIR CONVENTION IN
THIS STATE AND JOE BIDEN HASN'T
YET COME TO WISCONSIN.
HE SAYS HE MIGHT.
>> Andrew: SUSAN ORMISTON IN
KENOSHA, WISCONSIN, TONIGHT.
>>> WELL, THE CLEAN-UP CONTINUES
IN TEXAS AND LOUISIANA AFTER
HURRICANE LAURA.
THE STORM HAS LEFT BEHIND
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.
AT LEAST 19 PEOPLE WERE KILLED
IN BOTH STATES.
MANY COMMUNITIES STILL DEALING
WITH POWER OUTAGES, A LACK OF
SUPPLIES.
MEANWHILE, FORECASTERS ARE
MONITORING A NEW WEATHER SYSTEM
IN THE ATLANTIC WITH THE
POTENTIAL TO STRENGTHEN INTO A
TROPICAL STORM.
>>> WELL, THE WHITE HOUSE HAD A
HAND IN AN HISTORIC FLIGHT TODAY
IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
THE FIRST EVER COMMERCIAL JET
TRIP FROM ISRAEL TO THE UNITED
ARAB EMIRATES.
IT'S BEING TOUTED AS A SIGN OF
EASING
TENSIONS IN THE REGION.
SASA PETRICIC TAKES A CLOSER
LOOK.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...
>> Reporter: IT WAS HEAVY ON
SYMBOLISM.
ISRAELI AND U.S. OFFICIALS ON A
MAIDEN COMMERCIAL FLIGHT WITH
ANNOUNCEMENTS IN HEBREW AND
ARABIC, A NORMALLY FORBIDDEN
PATH OVER SAUDI ARABIA AND
LANDING IN THE ARAB GULF.
IT'S ENEMY TERRITORY FOR ISRAEL
FOR OVER SEVEN DECADES.
THEN A WARM WELCOME FROM THE
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES.
THE JEWISH STATE'S NEWEST ARAB
FRIEND.
NUDGED TOGETHER BY WASHINGTON.
>> THE LAST DECADES WE'VE HAD
CONFLICT AND WAR AND DIVISION.
AND WHAT HAPPENED HERE WAS THREE
GREAT LEADERS CAME TOGETHER AND
THEY STARTED WRITING THE SCRIPT
FOR A NEW MIDDLE EAST.
>> Reporter: WHAT'S IN IT FOR
ISRAEL AND THE U.A.E.?
PEACE LEADING TO PROSPERITY, SAY
THE COUNTRIES.
>> EXCHANGES BETWEEN THE MIDDLE
EAST, THE TWO MOST ADVANCED
ECONOMIES, AND YOU WILL SEE HOW
THE SPARKS FLY ON THIS.
>> Reporter: STILL, THIS DEAL
BETWEEN LEADERS MAY NOT
REPRESENT ANY GREATER ACCEPTANCE
OF ISRAEL ON THE STREETS OF THE
ARAB WORLD, SAYS MIDDLE EAST
ANALYST JANICE STEIN.
>> THERE ARE MILITARY ADVANTAGES
AND THERE ARE INTELLIGENCE
ADVANTAGES.
ISRAEL IS CLEARLY HOPING FOR
INVESTMENTS FROM THE U.A.E. AND
THE HIGH-TECH SECTOR IN ISRAEL.
BUT THESE ARE INVISIBLE TO THE
PUBLIC.
>> Reporter: AND SAYS STEIN,
IT MAY NOT LEAD TO FURTHER
AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER ARAB
STATES.
ONE THING IT DOES IS END A
PROPOSAL BY ISRAEL TO ANNEX
LARGE PARTS OF THE OCCUPIED WEST
BANK.
A PLAN THAT WOULD TAKE LAND AWAY
FROM PALESTINIANS, A PLAN THAT
THE U.A.E. INSISTED BE SCRAPPED.
BUT AMONG PALESTINIANS, NONE OF
THIS IS SEEN AS A VICTORY,
RATHER, A BETRAYAL BY AN ARAB
STATE WHICH HAD ONCE VOWED TO
NOT RECOGNIZE ISRAEL UNTIL IT
ENDED THE OCCUPATION.
>> [Speaking Foreign Language]
>> Reporter: "PEACE WILL NOT
BE ACHIEVED THROUGH BY-PASSING
US" SAYS PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT
MAHMOUD ABBAS.
SASA PETRICIC, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: COVID CASES ARE
SPIKING IN INDIA.
THE COUNTRY BEAT A WORLD RECORD
FOR DAILY CASE CLIMB.
>> WE ARE STILL NOT ABLE TOO
TRAVEL AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT
MORE FRUSTRATING.
>> Andrew: UP NEXT HOW PEOPLE
LIVING HERE ARE TRYING TO GET
THEIR LOVED ONES OUT.
>>> A TODDLER CAUGHT ON A KITE
AND FLUNG THROUGH THE AIR AT A
FESTIVAL IN TAIWAN.
>>> AND THE NBA BUBBLE GETS A
LITTLE BIGGER.
>> WHO'S THAT?
>> I LOVE YOU, DADDY.
>> Andrew: FRED VANVLEET'S
FAMILY REUNION.
WE'RE BACK IN TWO.
(*)
>> Andrew: YIKES.
TERRIFYING MOMENTS AT A KITE
FLYING FESTIVAL IN TAIWAN THIS
WEEKEND.
A 3-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS SWEPT UP
IN THE AIR, 30 METRES HIGH AT
ONE POINT, AFTER GETTING TANGLED
IN THIS GIANT KITE.
SHE ULTIMATELY FELL BACK TO THE
GROUND SAFELY, BELIEVE IT OR
NOT, AND WITH ONLY A FEW MINOR
CUTS.
[Applause]
>>> A CEREMONY IN TOKYO MARKED
THE UNVEILING OF THE OLYMPIC
FLAME DISPLAY.
IT WILL BE SHOWING AT THE
JAPANESE OLYMPIC MUSEUM TO
NOVEMBER.
THE GAMES, WHICH WERE SCHEDULED
TO TAKE PLACE THIS YEAR WERE
POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT SUMMER DUE
TO THE PANDEMIC.
>>> WELL, THE RATE OF NEW
COVID-19 CASES HAS SURGED THIS
MONTH IN INDIA, AND THOSE WHO
HAVE LEFT THE COUNTRY TO WORK
HERE IN CANADA ARE BEING
FRUSTRATED BY A BUREAUCRATIC
BACKLOG, TRYING TO GET LOVED
ONES HERE AS WELL.
BRIAR STEWART LOOKS AT THE
SITUATION BOTH IN CANADA AND IN
INDIA.
>> Reporter: TWO NURSES WALK
THROUGH THE NARROW LANES OF NEW
DELHI TO CHECK ON A PATIENT WHO
TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING
A SIGN IS POSTED, NOTING THAT
SOMEONE WHO LIVES THERE IS
SELF-ISOLATING.
MORE THAN 78,000 PEOPLE TESTED
POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS TODAY.
A FEW HUNDRED LESS THAN
YESTERDAY WHEN THE COUNTRY
EXPERIENCED THE BIGGEST SPIKE SO
FAR.
>> IT IS THE LARGEST ONE-DAY
SURGE IN THE CASES WORLDWIDE.
AND THE REASON BEHIND THIS,
BECAUSE THE PANDEMIC IS
SPREADING IN THE RURAL AREA.
>> Reporter: TO THE SOUTH, A
MOSQUE HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A
CLINIC BECAUSE HOSPITALS ARE
OVERWHELMED.
IN INDIA, MORE THAN 3.5 MILLION
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH
COVID-19, AND THE GOVERNMENT
SAYS THE SURGE IS IN PART DUE TO
MORE TESTING.
SO IT'S MOVING TO EASE
RESTRICTIONS.
STARTING NEXT WEEK, METRO TRAINS
AND THE NEW DELHI SYSTEM WILL
REOPEN.
EVEN AS THEY ADD MORE FLIGHTS,
SOME TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY TO
CANADA ARE STILL STUCK.
>> THEY NEED MY SUPPORT NOW
DURING THIS PANDEMIC TIME.
THAT'S WHY I'M PLANNING TO GO,
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T.
>> Reporter: HE TRIED TO BOARD
A FLIGHT TO TORONTO TWO WEEKS
AGO TO SEE HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER
BUT WAS STOPPED.
HE'S ALLOWED TO COME TO CANADA
BUT NEEDS A LETTER FROM
IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS FIRST AND
IS STILL WAITING.
IT'S THE SAME ISSUE FOR MANY
OTHERS ALREADY IN CANADA TRYING
TO BRING THEIR FAMILY OVER.
>> WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS
AND WE ARE STILL NOT ABLE TO
TRAVEL.
AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE
FRUSTRATING.
>> Reporter: IN A STATEMENT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS, WE
HAVE ADAPTED TO INCREASE OUR
PROCESSING CAPACITY OVER THE
LAST FEW MONTHS.
EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING AS QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE TO PROCESS
APPLICATIONS WHILE RESPECTING
PUBLIC HEALTH GUIDELINES.
SO SOME WILL CONTINUE TO WAIT,
WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS IN INDIA
AS THE COUNTRY OPENS UP EVEN
FURTHER.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Andrew: INDIA CURRENTLY HAS
REPORTED THE WORLD'S THIRD
HIGHEST NUMBER OF CORONAVIRUS
CASES.
IT'S NOT FAR BEHIND BRAZIL,
WHICH HAS 3.8 MILLION.
BUT THE U.S. STILL LEADS IN THE
NUMBER OF KNOWN CASES, TOPPING
SIX MILLION.
WORLDWIDE THE TOTAL HAS CROSSED
THE 25 MILLION MARK, WITH THE
NUMBER OF DEATHS JUST PASSING
848,000.
>>> WELL, NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," EXPLORING A BOLD AND
ETHICALLY COMPLICATED METHOD OF
TESTING A VACCINE --
DELIBERATELY MAKING PEOPLE SICK
TO SEE IF THE VACCINE WORKS.
>> IT FELT LIKE A TANGIBLE WAY
THAT I JUST AS AN ORDINARY
CITIZEN MIGHT BE ABLE TO
CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY.
>> Andrew: THEY'RE CALLED
HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS.
UP NEXT, WE'LL GO IN-DEPTH ON
THE SCIENCE AND WE'LL MEET THE
VOLUNTEERS WHO AR
>> Andrew: WELCOME BACK.
THE SPEED AND THE SCALE OF THE
GLOBAL HUNT FOR A CORONAVIRUS
VACCINE IS UNPRECEDENTED.
THAT'S BECAUSE EVERY DAY WITHOUT
ONE MEANS FURTHER DELAYS TO OUR
EVENTUAL RETURN TO NORMAL.
SO ENTER THE IDEA OF HUMAN
CHALLENGE TRIALS.
IT IS THE ETHICALLY COMPLEX IDEA
OF TESTING VACCINES BY
DELIBERATELY MAKING PEOPLE SICK,
GIVING THEM THE VACCINE, AND
THEN INFECTING THEM WITH THE
VIRUS.
AS A PRACTISE, IT IS NOT THE
NORM, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON
EITHER.
LOOK BACK TO 1796 FOR A BIT OF
EPIDEMIOLOGICAL FOLKLORE.
EDWARD JENNER MAKES HIS CASE FOR
A SMALLPOX VACCINE BY INJECTING
BOTH THE VACCINE AND THE DEADLY
VIRUS INTO AN 8-YEAR-OLD BOY.
IT WORKS.
THE VACCINE PROVEN ALMOST
OVERNIGHT.
WAS IT EFFICIENT OR RECKLESS?
THE ANSWER IS COMPLICATED, JUST
LIKE THE DEBATES AROUND EVERY
CHALLENGE THIEL THAT'S HAPPENED
SINCE --
TYPHOID AND CHOLERA.
THESE ARE FILLED WITH MALARIA
INFECTED MOSQUITOES AND, YES,
THEY'RE BEING BITTEN.
EVEN THE FIGHT AGAINST INFLUENZA
HAS BENEFITED FROM CHALLENGE
TRIALS.
AND IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC,
SCIENTISTS AND ETHICISTS ARE
CAREFULLY, FEVERISHLY WEIGHING
THE BENEFITS OF A
FASTER VACCINE AGAINST THE RISKS
OF MAKING PEOPLE SICK, POSSIBLY
EXPOSING THEM TO LONG-TERM HARM.
BUT CONSIDER THE INERTIA OF THE
URJENS.
A GROUP CALLED "ONE DAY SOONER"
WITH 15 NOBEL LAUREATES
AND OTHER PROMINENT RESEARCHERS,
ETHICISTS AND PHILOSOPHERS HAVE
PENNED AN OPEN LETTER
PETITIONING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
TO BEGIN PREPARATIONS FOR
CHALLENGE TRIALS IMMEDIATELY.
ONE OF THOSE SIGNATORIES IS A
BIOETHICIST AT RUTGER AND A
SUPPORTER OF WIDESPREAD TRIALS
HAPPENING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY, SO LET ME START WITH THE
BIGGEST QUESTION -- WHAT IS THE
BEST ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN MAKE
IN FAVOUR OF UNDERTAKING HUMAN
CHALLENGE TRIALS?
>> THERE IS ENORMOUS
HUMANITARIAN GAIN FROM GETTING
THE VACCINE FASTER.
CHALLENGE TRIALS WOULD EXPEDITE
THINGS A BIT, IF EVERYTHING WENT
WELL IN THE REGULAR CONVENTIONAL
PHASE THREE TRIALS THAT ARE
GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IF EVERYTHING DOESN'T GO WELL,
IT SPECIFICALLY -- WHAT HAPPENED
IN THE U.K. IN THE SPRING RECURS
THAT BY THE TIME THE TRIALS GET
GOING, THE BULK OF THE COMMUNITY
SPREAD MOVES ELSEWHERE TO A
DIFFERENT LOCATION AND THEY NEED
TO REBOOT AND RESTART ELSEWHERE.
WHICH IS WHAT THEY DID.
THEN HUMAN TRIALS REALLY SAVED
SEVERAL MONTHS AND THAT IS VERY
SIGNIFICANT.
>> Andrew: RIGHT, BECAUSE THE
POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING THERE
IS THAT WHEN YOU ENTER PHASE
THREE CLINICAL TRIALS AND YOU
VACCINATE A WHOLE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE RELYING ON
THEM GETTING SICK -- OR BEING
EXPOSED TO THE VIRUS NATURALLY
IN THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT?
>> EXACTLY.
IN THE HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS,
THERE IS A
CERTAINTY THAT PEOPLE WILL BE
EXPOSED.
THAT IS WHY YOU NEED
FAR, FAR FEWER VOLUNTEERS AND
THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW THAT YOU
WILL GET RESULTS ONCE YOU START
VERY SOON THEREAFTER.
>> Andrew: SO TELL ME HOW DO
THESE TRIALS ACTUALLY WORK?
I MEAN, WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE?
HOW DO YOU DELIBERATELY INFECT
SOMEONE WITH THE CORONAVIRUS?
>> USUALLY THEY USE NASAL
INOCULATION.
BASICALLY A SWAB WITH THE VIRUS
CULTURE UP A PERSON'S NOSE AND
IT'S NOT VERY PAINFUL OR
INVASIVE.
YOU -- BEFORE YOU DO THAT, YOU
RANDOMIZE PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO
WOULD GET THE VACCINE AND PEOPLE
WHO WILL GET THE CONTROL.
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, JUST
LIKE IN CONVENTIONAL TRIALS IS
TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES.
THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THE VACCINES
AND THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THE
CONTROLS.
ONLY IN A CHALLENGE TRIAL YOU
KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN
EXPOSED TO THE VIRUS.
YOU'VE GOT A VERY SMALL GROUP OF
VOLUNTEERS.
YOU NEED TO SELECT THEM SO IT
WILL BE PEOPLE WITH VERY LOW
RISK WITH ADVERSE RESULTS FROM
THE INFECTION TO EXPOSE
THEMSELVES TO THE VIRUS AND VERY
SOON THEREAFTER YOU HAVE RESULTS 
RESULTS.
AND YOU CAN SAVE
LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF LIVES
EVERY DAY IF WE END THIS
PANDEMIC THAT ONE DAY SOONER.
>> Andrew: I UNDERSTAND THE
BENEFITS, I THINK, BUT HELP ME
TO UNDERSTAND THE RISKS INVOLVED
AS YOU MENTIONED THEM.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, WHAT IF YOU GET
SOMEONE -- NOT JUST SICK -- BUT
SERIOUSLY SICK.
I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT EVEN YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE RESILIENT TO
THE VIRUS, THEY CAN BE
HOSPITALIZED, THEY CAN REQUIRE
INTENSIVE CARE.
AND THEY CAN DIE.
>> YEAH.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
IT COULD HAPPEN IN THIS TRIAL.
IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT COULD
HAPPEN IN THE CONVENTIONAL
TRIALS.
THERE WOULD BE MORE OF THIS,
ACTUALLY, IN THE CONVENTIONAL
TRIALS, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S FOR
30,000 PEOPLE, INCLUDING MANY
WHO ARE OLD AND AT HIGH RISK FOR
COMPLICATIONS WITH THE
CORONAVIRUS INFECTION.
AND FOR A CHALLENGE TRIAL WE
WOULD ONLY SELECT PEOPLE WHO ARE
VERY YOUNG, ADULTS WHO CAN GIVE
HIGH PERFORMANCE, AND WHO ARE AT
VERY LOW RISK, AND THEY DON'T
HAVE ANY COMPLICATED CONDITIONS
THAT MAKE THEM LIKELIER TO
SUFFER COMPLICATIONS.
WE ARE NOW IN A PANDEMIC.
WE ARE FACING THOUSANDS OF
DEATHS DIRECTLY EVERY DAY FROM
COVID.
AND I'M NOT EVEN GOING INTO THE
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
DEATHS FROM THE CANCER, YOU
KNOW, ELECTIVE SERVICES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY AVOIDED, WHAT THE U.N.
CALLS FAMINES OF BIBLICAL
DIMENSIONS THAT ARE EXPECTED
AROUND THE WORLD BECAUSE OF
ECONOMIC STRIFE.
I DON'T LOVE THE RISKS.
I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED IT IF
WERE WITHOUT RISKS, BUT RISKS
EXIST.
RISKS ARE IN THE SPECIFIC TRIALS
THAT
THEY HAVE ALREADY UNDERGONE.
THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE CARE OF
THE PARTICIPANT, IT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE DO TO ADVANCE GLOBAL
HEALTH.
AND IN THIS CASE IT'S PERFECTLY
JUSTIFIED I THINK ON BALANCE TO
PROMOTE GLOBAL HEALTH IN THIS
VERY CRUCIAL WAY THROUGH
SUBJECTING WILLING VOLUNTEERS
WITH FULLY INFORMED CONSENT TO
THAT RISK.
>> Andrew: ON A MAYBE MORE
PRACTICAL LEVEL, WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE DEGREE OF VACCINE
SKEPTICISM THAT EXISTS IN THE
WORLD RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IN THE
HANDS OF A CRITIC OR A DOUBTER,
IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO
SERIOUSLY WRONG, WHAT DO YOU
THINK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HARM
THERE TO -- TO VACCINE SCIENCE
AND TO THE CONFIDENCE IN
VACCINES?
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD MOVE
SKEPTICS.
I SAY LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.
LET'S MAKE IT VERY VISIBLE THAT
WE'RE SEEKING INFORMED CONSENT.
SOME COLLEAGUES AND I HAVE
CONDUCTED THE ONLY
SURVEY I KNOW AROUND THE WORLD
IN SIX DIFFERENT COUNTRIES WITH
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
PARTICIPANTS AROUND PEOPLE'S
WILLINGNESS TO TOLERATE TRIALS.
AND THE ANSWER SO FAR IS THAT
AROUND THE WORLD THERE IS
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR
CONDUCTING CHALLENGE TRIALS ON
THE WIDER PUBLIC.
SO SOME OF THE WORRY ABOUT THE
PUBLIC'S RESPONSE I THINK IS
BASED ON MORE SPECULATION THAN
PUCICAL EVIDENCE.
BETTER DO THE RIGHT THING,
EXPLAIN IT AND COMMUNICATE IT
VERY WELL TO THE PUBLIC WITH
PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNICATIONS
EXPERTISE, AND HOPE THAT THIS
WOULD WORK.
>> Andrew: ALL RIGHT,
PROFESSOR EYAL, IT'S BEEN VERY
GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Andrew: AS YOU HEARD, HUMAN
CHALLENGE TRIALS RELY ON
VOLUNTEERS.
THE SAME ORGINISATION, ONE DAY
SOONER, PUSHING FOR CHALLENGE
TRIALS.
IT'S ALSO COLLECTED MORE THAN
34,000 SIGNATURES FROM 150 SOME
COUNTRIES, ALL POTENTIAL
VOLUNTEERS TO TAKE
PART AND TO EXTEND AN ARM FOR
SCIENCE.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM SOME OF
THEM.
>> MY NAME IS CONNOR AND I'M 27
YEARS OLD.
I AM A LIBRARY TECHNICIAN AND I
LIVE IN KELOWNA.
>> HI, MY NAME IS WENDY KWONG
AND I'M 51 YEARS OLD, AND I WORK
AS A DENTIST IN VANCOUVER.
>> MY NAME IS DEAN STEWART AND
I'M 29 YEARS OLD AND I'M
CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE TOWN OF
TRURO IN NOVA SCOTIA.
>> I EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN
THE HUMAN
CHALLENGE TRIAL BECAUSE I THINK
THAT THE RISKS TO ME ARE FAR
OUTWEIGHING THE GAINS FOR
EVERYBODY.
>> I THINK THAT IT BOILS DOWN TO
WHETHER WE TAKE CALCULATED RISKS
AND ACCELERATE THE DEVELOPMENTS
OF THE VACCINE.
>> THERE'S ALSO THIS SENSE --
AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
CAN RELATE TO IT -- THIS SENSE
OF A LOSS OF CONTROL RIGHT NOW.
BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A
HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIAL, IT FELT
LIKE A TANGIBLE WAY THAT I AS
JUST AN ORDINARY CITIZEN MIGHT
BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE
MEANINGFULLY.
>> THERE ARE ABOUT 5,000 PEOPLE
DYING PER DAY FROM CORONAVIRUS
RIGHT NOW.
AND NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE
ABLE TO CONSENT TO THAT RISK.
I'D MUCH RATHER THAT ME AND A
FEW OTHER VOLUNTEERS WITH
INFORMED CONSENT TAKE ON THAT
RISK SO THAT SOME OF THOSE
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DIE IN THE
FUTURE.
>> WHEN YOU SEE THE VOLUNTEERS
FROM OTHER COUNTRIES BEING
TESTED FOR A VACCINE THAT WE MAY
END UP BENEFITING FROM, I THINK
THAT IT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT I
CONTRIBUTE IN THIS INTERNATIONAL
EFFORT.
>> Andrew: INTERESTING
DISCUSSION, TO BE SURE.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"... FINDING OPPORTUNITY
AMID UNCERTAINTY.
SOME INDIGENOUS FAMILIES ARE
FINDING COVID-FRIENDLY CLASSROOM
ALTERNATIVES CLOSE TO HOME.
>>> BUT, NEXT, WE GET ANSWERS TO
YOUR COVID-19 QUESTIONS,
INCLUDING THIS ONE -- IS CANADA
IN A GOOD PLACE AS FAR AS
VACCINE PROCUREMENT WHEN A
VACCINE BECOMES AVAILABLE?
A BIG TOPIC IN THE NEWS TODAY.
WE'LL BE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
(
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>> Andrew: WELCOME BACK.
TIME AGAIN FOR YOUR COVID-19
QUESTIONS.
AND DR. LYNORA SAXINGER IS BACK
WITH US TO HELP TO ANSWER SOME
OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START WITH A QUESTION
ABOUT THE V WORD, WHEN IS A
VACCINE GOING TO BE READY AND
WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF
DEVELOPMENT?
>> SO THIS IS A VERY ACTIVE AREA
RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S WELL OVER 140 VACCINES
IN TRIALS.
I THINK THAT THERE'S AT LEAST
SIX OR SEVEN IN PHASE TWO OR
THREE TRIALS AND THERE'S SOME
FRONT-RUNNERS.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE BEST
THAT WE WOULD IMAGINE WOULD
ACTUALLY REALLY BE AN EARLY 2021 
TO HAVE A VACCINE THAT HAS BEEN
TESTED FULLY.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE PROVEN
WRONG ABOUT, THAT BUT I THINK WE
REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GO
THROUGH ALL OF THE STAGES TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE VACCINE IS
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE BEFORE
LICENSING IT.
AND WE MIGHT ACTUALLY END UP
WITH MORE THAN ONE VACCINE,
ACTUALLY, AND I THINK THAT WOULD
BE FINE.
THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
SO IN THE MEANTIME THOUGH,
BEFORE WE GET TO EARLY NEXT
YEAR, HAND
HYGIENE AND PHYSICAL DISTANCING
ALL REMAIN AT THE UTMOST
IMPORTANCE.
ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, IS
CANADA IN A GOOD PLACE AS FAR AS
VACCINE PROCUREMENT WHEN A
VACCINE BECOMES AVAILABLE?
AND WE HEARD ABOUT THE DEALS
TODAY WITH JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND
NOVAVAX.
>> RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
JOCKEYING FOR POSITION WITH THE
CURRENT VACCINE.
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
HAVE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS
AVAILABLE.
AND ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE
SHOULDN'T FORGET ABOUT IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A
LICENSED MANUFACTURER.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S EARLY TO
TELL.
BUT MY OVERALL FEELING IS THAT
THE
APPROPRIATE STEPS ARE BEING
TAKEN AND THAT YOU HAVE TO JUST
BE PRUDENT AND TRY TO GET IN
THERE AS SOON AS REASONABLE TO
LINE UP SOME VACCINES.
RECOGNISING THAT THAT MAY NOT BE
A CANDIDATE THAT
WORKS VERY WELL IN PHASE THREE
TRIALS.
>> Andrew: IS IT POSSIBLE
THAT, I MEAN, THAT ALL FOUR OF
THE DEALS THAT CANADA HAS, THEY
MAY ALL FAIL AND NONE OF THE
VACCINES WILL WORK?
>> I GUESS THAT IT'S POSSIBLE,
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS
PROBABLE.
I THINK THAT MOST OF THE DATA SO
FAR ON ALL
OF THE VACCINE PLATFORMS IS
MOSTLY ENCOURAGING THAT THERE
WOULD BE EFFECTIVENESS ON, AND
THE DEGREE OF EFFECTIVENESS, AND
WHICH GROUP IT MIGHT WORK BEST
ON MIGHT VARY BETWEEN VACCINES.
SO I THINK THAT HAVING MORE THAN
ONE OPTION IS A GOOD IDEA.
I'M STILL VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT
THERE WILL BE EFFECTIVE VACCINES
VERY SOON.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE
PANDEMIC IS NOT THAT OLD.
>> Andrew: LAST QUESTION.
WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS FOR IT.
COULD GETTING THE FLU
VACCINE THIS YEAR POTENTIALLY
INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF
ACQUIRING COVID-19?
>> THAT SEEMS AWFULLY UNLIKELY
TO ME FOR A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT
REASONS.
THEY ARE TRANSMITTED IN A
SIMILAR WAY SO THE THINGS THAT
WE DO TO PREVENT FLU SHOULD HELP 
ALSO HELP
TO PREVENT COVID.
BUT I SEE NO REASON THAT A FLU
VACCINE WOULD INCREASE YOUR
LIKELIHOOD TO GET COVID-19.
IN FACT, WE'RE HOPING FOR A
LIGHT FLU SEASON, IF EVERYONE IS
DOING EVERYTHING THE WAY THAT WE
HOPE THEY ARE, HONESTLY.
>> Andrew: DR. SAXINGER,
ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE
PROGRAMME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANKS.
>> Andrew: AND AS YOU KNOW WE
LIKE TO ASK YOUR
QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID-19 AS
OFTEN AS POSSIBLE SO SEND THEM
OUR WAY.
MESSAGE US DIRECTLY ON
INSTAGRAM @CBCTHENATIONAL OR
SEND US AN EMAIL AT
COVID@CBC.CA.
>>> NOW THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC,
CBC NEWS HAS BEEN SHARING THE
STORIES
OF CANADIANS LOST TO COVID-19.
WE CALL THE PROJECT "LIVES
REMEMBERED."
TONIGHT EVELYN KNOWLES IS
REMEMBERED BY HER GRANDDAUGHTER.
SOUGHT.
>> MY NAME IS LINDSAY
KNOWLES-JOHNSTONE AND I'M THE
GRANDDAUGHTER OF
EVELYN KNOWLES WHO DIED OF
COVID-19 ON APRIL 15, 2020.
MY GRANDMA WAS THE MOST SELFLESS
PERSON THAT I EVER MET.
SHE VOLUNTEERED COUNTLESS HOURS
IN HER HOME COMMUNITY, GARDENING
AND SERVING
OTHERS IN ANY WAY THAT SHE
POSSIBLY COULD.
MY GRANDPARENTS TRAVELLED ABROAD
TO VOLUNTEER TO SUCH COUNTRIES
AS HAITI AND SRI LANKA AND
JAPAN, WHERE MY GRANDPA WAS A
CIVIL ENGINEER AT THOSE SCHOOLS
AND MY GRANDMA WORKED IN A
HOSPITAL FOR THE LESS FORTUNATE.
HER GENEROSITY WAS INFECTIOUS.
AS MY GRANDMA INSPIRED ME TO
TAKE A GAP YEAR AND SERVE MY
COMMUNITY.
MY GRANDMOTHER GOT MARRIED AT 19
TO MY GRANDPA.
AND THEY HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
AND STRONG MARRIAGE THAT I HAVE
EVER SEEN.
MY GRANDPARENTS HAD TWO CHILDREN
AND THREE GRANDCHILDREN.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN MY
GRANDMOTHER'S LATER YEARS SHE
DEVELOPED DEMENTIA AND WAS
LOSING THE ABILITY TO SPEAK.
HOWEVER, THAT NEVER STOPPED ME
FROM HAVING A CONNECTION AS I
CONNECTED THROUGH PLAYING FIDDLE
MUSIC FOR HER.
SHE WOULD TAP HER FEET AND SMILE
FOR THE MUSIC.
MY GRANDMA WAS SO SPECIAL TO ME.
AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO SAY
GOODBYE TO HER.
BUT IF I COULD SAY GOODBYE, I
WOULD WANT HER TO KNOW HOW MUCH
SHE INSPIRED ME AND THAT SHE
WILL BE LOVED AND MISSED BY ME
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
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>> Andrew: MORE THAN 9,
CANADIANS HAVE DIED AFTER
CONTRACTING COVID-19.
YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THEIR
STORIES ONLINE AT
CBC.CA/REMEMBERED.
>>> OKAY, STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," THE NBA BUBBLE OPENS
UP TO SOME FAMILIES.
>> DADDY!
100.
>> Andrew: WELL, IF THAT
DOESN'T MELT YOUR HEART, I DON'T
KNOW WHAT 
>> Andrew: SCHOOL RESUMED IN
THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES TODAY,
AND LIKE THEIR COLLEAGUES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, TEACHERS ARE NOT
QUITE AS EXCITED AS THE KIDS.
>> THE TEACHERS HAVE ABSOLUTELY
BEEN APPREHENSIVE BECAUSE
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE
DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL A FEW WEEKS
AGO.
SO IT'S
BEEN HARD FOR THEM BUT THEY'VE
COME OUT LIKE CHAMPS LIKE THEY
ALWAYS DO.
>> Andrew: TEACHERS HAVE TO
WEAR PLASTIC FACE SHIELDS
INDOORS.
WHILE STUDENTS MUST WEAR
MASKS WHERE PHYSICAL DISTANCING
IS NOT POSSIBLE.
SOME FIRST NATION SCHOOLS ARE
TRYING TO MAKE
THE BEST OF THINGS.
THEY'RE COMBINING ONLINE COURSES
WITH OUTDOOR EDUCATION THAT
TEACHES TRADITIONAL SKILLS AND
KNOWLEDGE.
ARIEL FOURNIER SHOWS US HOW IT
WORKS.
>> Reporter: THIS IS ONE OF
ISABELLA'S CLASSROOMS FOR THE
YEAR.
>> I HAVE ALREADY LEARNED HOW TO
SCRAPE A HIDE WHICH WAS A LOT OF
WORK.
>> Reporter: INSTEAD OF GOING
BACK TO SCHOOL, SHE'S STUDYING
ONLINE WHILE ALSO LEARNING
LAND-BASED SKILLS.
THIS TIME IT'S A LESSON IN HIDE
SCRAPING FROM HER AUNTIE.
>> IT'S A BIG MOVE.
AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, STRETCH
IT OUT.
>> Reporter: THIS PROJECT
ISN'T JUST A WORKOUT, SHE'S
LEARNING ABOUT BIOLOGY,
CHEMISTRY AND TRADITIONAL ART.
HER MOM IS ALSO GRATEFUL TO HAVE
ISABELLA OUT OF THE CROWDED
CLASSROOM.
>> WE KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT TO PAY
ATTENTION TO WHAT EXPERTS ARE
SAYING, TO PAY ATTENTION TO OUR
ELDERS' STORIES.
AND THE ELDERS ARE TELLING US
THAT WHEN THE LEAVES FALL, IT IS
TIME
FOR US TO BUNKER DOWN AND TO
STAY SAFE.
>> WE NEED THAT AS YOUR FIRE
STARTER.
>> Reporter: THIS ELDER
TEACHES KIDS ABOUT MEDICINE
PICKING AND SURVIVAL SKILLS,
RIGHT IN THE CITY.
>> SO, LIKE, BEING A GRANDPA, I
GUESS.
AND THEN YOU'RE TEACHING YOUR
GRANDCHILDREN.
ALSO GRATITUDE THAT SOMEHOW I
HAVE SHARED THIS ROUTINE AND NOW
I CAN SHARE IT.
BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO
SHARE.
>> Reporter: THIS FALL MORE
PARENTS ARE ASKING ABOUT
ALTERNATIVES.
AT THIS HEALING SOCIETY THEY'RE
FIELDING MORE CALLS THAN EVER.
AND THE ASSEMBLY OF FIRST
NATIONS NATIONAL CHIEF SEES THIS
AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
>> PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU CAN
ONLY LEARN MATH AND SCIENCE
ACCORDING TO A TEXTBOOK.
WELL, NOT NECESSARILY.
AND SO THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE
EXPLORED AND THEY SHOULD BE
EMBRACED AS ALTERNATIVE TEACHING
METHODS.
>> Reporter: FOR ISABELLA,
THERE'S NOTHING BETTER.
>> THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT'S
GOOD-ISH, BUT I LIKE LEARNING ON
THE LAND.
>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE I'M
GOING --
>> Reporter: SEVERAL FIRST
NATION SCHOOLS ARE ALSO
EXPANDING LAND-BASED PROGRAMMES,
SO THAT MORE INDIGENOUS KIDS
HAVE THAT OUTDOOR LEARNING, LIKE
ISABELLA.
ARIEL FOURNIER, CBC NEWS,
EDMONTON.
>> Andrew: NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," OUR "MOMENT."
>> WHO IS THIS?
>> Andrew: A RAPTORS' FAMILY
REUNION RIGHT AFTER THIS.
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>> Andrew: NBA PLAYERS HAD A
COMPLICATED FEW WEEKS, PROTESTS
AGAINST RACIAL INJUSTICE,
THE PLAYOFFS, THE PANDEMIC, ALL
OF IT AS
THEY LIVE INSIDE A BUBBLE, AWAY
FROM THEIR FAMILIES TO TRY TO
KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
BUT THAT LAST PART IS CHANGING.
TODAY THE RAPTORS WERE ABLE TO
BRING SELECT FAMILY MEMBERS INTO
THE BUBBLE TO LIVE WITH THEM,
AND ONE OF THOSE REUNION MOMENTS
IS OUR "MOMENT" TONIGHT.
FRED VANVLEET, A STAR TO RAPTORS
FANS AND TO HIS KIDS TOO.
>> I LOVE YOU, DADDY.
>> Andrew: TODAY ALL OF THEM,
HIS CHILDREN AND HIS PARTNER,
ARE TOGETHER AT LAST.
>> JUST EXCITED, I MISS MY
FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, FAMILY IS HUGE FOR ME.
SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I THINK THAT THE LAST TIME I SAW
THEM WAS FATHER'S DAY.
>> Andrew: AT LEAST THAT WAS
THE LAST TIME IN PERSON.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THESE ADORABLE
KIDS FROM THIS "MOMENT" EARLIER
IN THIS MONTH.
>> FRED VANVLEET!
>> Andrew: AN INTRO TO A GAME,
BUT STILL FROM AFAR.
NOW AFTER A LESS THAN STELLAR
PERFORMANCE OVER THE WEEKEND, AS
THEY START THE SECOND HALF OF
THE PLAYOFFS, THE HOPE IS THAT
THE FAMILIES WILL SOOTHE THE
SORROW AND HELP TO GET THE TEAM
BACK ON TRACK.
>> IT'S BEEN A WHILE BUT IT WILL
BE GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AND
RIGHT ON TIME AFTER GETTING OUR
BUTTS
KICKED YESTERDAY.
SO IT WILL KIND OF TAKE MY MIND
OFF OF IT FOR A LITTLE BIT
YESTERDAY AND I'LL GET PREPARED
AND GET LOCKED DOWN FOR THE GAME
TOMORROW.
>> I LOVE YOU, DADDY.
>> Andrew: OH, THAT'S GREAT.
SO LIKE INSIDE THE BUBBLE, IT'S
NOT SIMPLE, NECESSARILY.
THE FAMILIES ACTUALLY ARRIVED A
WEEK AGO IN ORLANDO, BECAUSE
THEY HAD TO
QUARANTINE BEFORE REUNITING WITH
THEIR FAMILIES.
NOW THAT THEY'RE UNDER THE
BUBBLE THEY HAVE TO UNDERGO
DAILY CORONAVIRUS TESTS.
THEY HAVE TO WEAR MASKS
JUST LIKE PLAYERS AND STAFF,
BUT, HEY, THE PRICE OF REUNITING
A FAMILY, THAT'S A GOOD TRADE.
>>> THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
THIS MONDAY, AUGUST 31st.
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
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