
Spanish: 
Mi nombre es John Clappi y recientemente inicié Eponymous Architecture.
Siempre me gustó dibujar... tenía un gran amor por los Legos.
Tambien construir cosas como carros a control remoto.
En los que consigues kits y aprendes las mecánicas y la parte eléctrica.
Cuando era joven...
Probablemente en mi adolescencia temprana
Mis padres crearon un pequeño anexo en nuestra casa.
Fue la primera vez que...
Que fuí expuesto a un Arquitecto.
Recuerdo que mi padre me llevó a la oficina del Arquitecto.
Se me hizo muy interesante.
Cuando eres joven no sueles ver muchos espacios de trabajos.
Tal vez solo en el dia de "lleva a tu hijo al trabajo"
Pero sabes la oficina del arquitecto no es como cualquier otra cosa.
Porque estaban dibujando, no estaban solo sentados frente a un monitor.

English: 
My name is John Clappi and I just recently
started Eponymous Architecture.
I always liked drawing had a huge love of
Legos, Erector sets building things like remote
control cars where you get them and they're
kits and you build them and then you start
learning the mechanics and electric side.
When I was younger probably maybe my early
teens, my parents had put a small addition
on their house and it was the first time I've
ever been exposed to an architect and I remember
my father actually brought me to the office
of the architect and that was really interesting.
You know when you're younger you don't really
see many work spaces, you know, it was probably
the father workday and you're gonna see that,
but you know an architect’s office was so
much unlike anything else because you were
drawing you weren't sitting there in front

Spanish: 
Y por supuesto esto es antes de las computadoras.
Pero igual no estaban sentados haciendo papeleo, estaban dibujando.
Viendo presentaciones.
Y verlo construido era...
Pienso yo, probablemente lo mas memorable
...o importante de aquello.
Fue lo que me llamo hacia la arquitectura.
Era un programa de 5 años.
El primer año ni siquiera haces arquitectura propiamente.
Es mas pensamiento conceptual.
Y para mi fue... duro.
Realmente nunca habia hecho algo así.
Entonces, estaba luchando por entender lo que me estaban enseñando.
Años después lo entendí.
Pero en el momento uno no entiende que es ritmo, proporción, repetición.
Sabes, todo era extraño para mí.
Y nunca había hablado o trabajado con esos conceptos.
Fue muy contundete, un shock.
-Yo me sentí decepcionado, yo estaba asi de que:
"Pensé que diseñabamos edificios".

English: 
of you know of course, this is like a lot
of pre-computer, but you weren't sitting there
typing and doing lots of paperwork.
They were drawing.
To see that presentation and then to see it
built was, I think, probably one of the most
memorable or important parts of that kind
of grain that would lead me into architecture.
So it's a five year program in first year
you're, just doing you actually don't even
really do much quote-unquote architecture
as it is conceptual thinking and for me it
was a stretch.
I had never really done that before and so
I was, I was struggling to understand the
ideas that they were trying to teach you.
Years later you understood, but it was at
the moment you didn't understand you, like
what does this mean: proportion and rhythm
and repetition and you know it was foreign
to me and I hadn't really ever spoken or kind
of worked in that media, so it was a shock
it was a shock.
I felt like I was disappointed, I was like,
what?
I thought we would be designing buildings.

Spanish: 
-Si, por supuesto.
Es algo bueno que no haya sido asi.
Porque los edificios hubiesen sido terribles, jaja.
Despues del primer año
Estaba pensando si estaba en el campo correcto.
O era que no estaba entendiendo o...
Tal vez no estaba en sí.
Pero decidí quedarme y fue algo bueno
Para mi segundo y tercer año las cosas cambiaron.
Tú sabes...
Una vez que entiendes que existe este otro lado de la arquitectura.
Que yo no estaba viendo
Porque solo veia dibujos, construcciones
Siendo muy inocente.
No pensaba en el proceso creativo.
Y despues...
Empiezas a entender que exsite este otro lado
Que para mí estaba sin explorar
Y eso me llevó a un descubrimiento:
Las bellezas y frustraciones de la Arquitectura.
Que no es solamente el lado técnico.
Pero esta este otro lado exótico que te impulsa a ser creativo.

English: 
Yeah, yeah for sure it's a good thing we weren't
because actually the buildings would have
been terrible!
After the first year for me, I was debating
whether or not it was the right field for
me.
I’m like, either I misunderstood or you
know it was I just not getting it.
And so obviously I ended up sticking with
it and that's a good thing and by my second
and third years it really started to turn
around.
You know you started once you understood that
there was this other side to architecture
that you know I didn't really see because
I just saw drawings I saw construction and
you know through my being so naive, I didn't
really think about the creative process.
And then you know you start understanding
that there's this other side to it, which
for me, was untapped and then you know that
led to a whole new discovery of the I think
both of beauty and frustrations of architecture
I mean it there’s not only the technical
side but this is whole other side I can learn
and be really creative by second year we were

English: 
starting to do a little bit of architecture
so I think it started to make you feel more
grounded okay so all hope all hope is not
lost we're actually gonna learn how to do
buildings here.
So maybe there's, a little bit of that realizing
okay I am on the right path because this is
what I wanted to do.
Like you started actually creating real spaces
and dealing with circulation, both horizontally
and vertically and you know you started to
understand the relationships of inside and
outside and when you do something on the outside
it affects the inside and vice versa.
So you’re really starting to learn about
how the architecture is shaped both in drawing
in 2D drawing, but then you know you really
started to get in to model making and exploring
things through volumes.
Immediately after graduating from architecture
school, myself and two other friends decided
to go backpack Europe.
I think it's a fairly common thing to go travel
and so after you come back then you go, alright
now I gotta find a job.
If architecture, school is kind of conceptual
thinking and drawing and design, my first
job was about taking those skills and figure
out how to make buildings.
For me anyway, there was never I haven't yet
experienced a point in profession where I've

Spanish: 
En segundo año empezamos a hacer un poco de arquitectura.
Y creo que eso lo hizo sentir un poco mas real.
No todo esta perdido! Si aprenderemos a hacer edificios.
Entonces si existe ese momento de "Si estoy en el camino correcto".
Porque esto es lo que quiero hacer.
Me refiero a crear espacios reales.
Y lidiar con circulación tanto horizontal como vertical.
Y empiezas a entender
Las relaciones entre afuera y adentro.
Cuando haces algo afuera, eso afecta andentro y viceversa.
Y entonces realmente empiezas a entender
Como la arquitectura es representada
En dibujo, dibujo 2D pero también
Maqueteo y explorar cosas con volúmenes.
Justo luego de graduarme de la escuela de Arquitectura.
Un par de amigos y yo decidimos salir de viaje.
Pienso que algo totalmente normal viajar
Y al volver decirte: "Okay, hora de encontrar trabajo"
Si la escuela era acerca de pensamiento conceptual, dibujar y diseñar...
Mi primer trabajo era acerca de...
Tomar esas habilidades y descifrar como hacer edificios.
En mi caso no había experimentado en ningún punto de mi carrera

English: 
learned so much in such a brief period of
time because everything was new and I mean
every single thing that you did on any given
day, was new and it was just made you a better
architect.
Come out of grads - architecture school - and
maybe you're a little bit cocky because you
think you're hot designer and then there's
a humility that kind of just comes down upon
you in the practice of architecture.
And you know maybe that's a good thing.
I knew getting licensed for me was the kind
of culmination of the education process and
so I wanted to do it and I think I do think
it helped to do it soon after leaving academia
because you were still used to that studying
habits and, and taking tests and I know for
people who wait longer it's more of a struggle
and there's, obviously pragmatic things like
certain math skills to be able to apply to
the structure exams is, is so far removed
I mean even for me doing it say three to four
years out of architecture school there's some

Spanish: 
Un período donde aprendiese tanto en tan poco tiempo.
Porque todo era nuevo para mí
Todo lo que hacía, todos los días, era totalmente nuevo
Simplemente me hacía mejor arquitecto.
Recién graduado tal vez eres un poco arrogante y piensas que eres gran diseñador.
Pero hay un humildad
que simplemente te golpea en la práctica.
Probablemente eso sea algo bueno.
Sabía que para mí conseguir mi licencia era
La culminación
Del proceso de educación.
Y pienso que fue bueno hacerlo tan pronto salí de la escuela.
Porque todavía estas acostumbrado a eso.
Hábitos de estudio y
Tomar exámenes.
Y se que para quienes esperan mas para hacerlo puede ser una lucha.
Y hay algo pragmático al respecto.
Habilidades matematicas y saberlas aplicar a las pruebas estructurales
Está tan alejado...
Incluso para mí, haciendolo, digamos... 3 o 4 años
Luego de salir de la escuela.

English: 
rust, but you can kind of kick it off quicker
when you're taking these exams straight out
of school.
But if you wait 10 years man, that math is
pretty far removed and you really relearning
it and so that's why I think so many people
fear those exams is because they've waited
so long and I guess this can also vary on
everyone's experience at the first job, so
I was getting exposed to site meetings I was
getting supposed to clients and budgets and
schedules, I was so I was obviously getting
drafting time in the office I was doing figuring
out construction drawings, but I was also
getting CA experience which is, I know difficult
for a lot of people sometimes particularly
as an intern.
And so for me, I was hitting all the all the
buttons you know, hitting all the topics that
we're the kind of dark areas in your experience
and these were the areas you needed to not
only get experience for IDP but you needed
that information to pass the exams because
the exam started talking about you know getting
into contracts and taking projects through
construction.

Spanish: 
Hay cierto óxido pero lo puedes hacer mas rapido
Pero si esperas 10 años, esa matemática esta olvidada.
Y tienes que volver a aprenderla.
Por eso pienso que tanta gente teme a esos exámenes. Por esperar tanto tiempo.
Por supuesto esto puede variar
En la experiencia de cada quien en su primer trabajo.
Yo estaba siendo expuesto a muchas visitas de sitio, reuniones con clientes.
Presupuestos e intinerarios.
Entonces estaba claramente
Empeñando tiempo en la oficina.
Descifrando dibujos constructivos.
Que es muy dificil para muchas personas.
Particularmente para los internos.
Para mí se trataba de presionar todos los botones.
Todos los temas que consideraba areas debíles en mi expiriencia.
Y estas eran las areas en las que necesitabas experiencias, no solo para el IDP
Pero necesitabas esa información para pasar el exámen.
Porque el exámen te hablaba de...
Contratos...
Llevar proyectos a construir

English: 
So for me to start studying for the exams
it was all one thing I mean you were learning
about it and then practicing it that day or
the next day you know to start learning something
about the contract and then week later it
actually becomes applicable in a site meeting
I mean that's just you know you couldn't get
more fortunate.
Every office you leave there’s things that
you want to take away and things you don't
and I think that's great because it helps
you focus your energy so once you start, if
you keep adding things you want to do it's
kind of difficult but if you also start removing
things that you don't wanna do, it starts
getting focusing what you think is right.
Every firm there were things that you are
learning to do differently so it could have
been, obviously design approach is a major
thing, the type of projects they’re getting
is a major thing.
So that obviously was always different from
every office.
But it was also yeah the way they approach
the design process and the kind of I think
the type of people that worked at firms is
also very different, depending on the type
of firm it was there were people that were
more just kind of production and then certain

Spanish: 
Para mi estudiar para los examanes era un cosa
Me refiero... estabas aprendiendo al respecto
Y practicandolo ese día o el siguiente.
Sabes...
Aprender algo acerca de hacer un contrato
Y una semana despues se vuelve aplicable en una reunion de sitio
No podría haber sido mas afortunado.
Cada firma que dejas hay cosas que...
Quieres llevarte y cosas que no.
Y pienso que es genial porque te hace concentrate
 
Si comienzas a añadir cosas que quieres hacer es dificil.
Pero si tambien comienzas a quitar cosas que no quieres hacer
Te inicias a concentrar en lo que crees correcto.
Cada firma...
Hay cosas que aprendía a hacer de otra manera.
Pudo ser... obviamente enfoque de diseño, que es algo grande.
El tipo de proyectos
Entonces eso siempre fue distinto en cada firma.
Pero aparte de la manera en la que enfocaban el proceso de diseño.
Y el tipo de personas
Que trabajaba en cada firma era muy distinto.
Dependiendo en el tipo de firma podía haber gente que se enfocaba mas en la producción

Spanish: 
Ciertas firmas tenian gente mas creativa
Los niveles de dedicación también variaban.
 
En mi caso noté una relacion directa entre
El calibre de diseño de la firma
Y el compromiso ademas del tiempo que se le dedica
Hay firmas en las que facilmente puedes dar 40 horas a la semana y esta bien.
Y hay firmas donde puedes dar 50 o 60
Y puede que sea por la demanda de la oficina
O incluso porque quieres hacerlo
Donde 8 horas al dia se convierte
Una noche entera sin darte cuenta...
O 10 horas al dia porque haces algo que disfrutas.
La primer firma fue en la que me encontré por fortuna de las circunstancias.
Por supuesto conseguir el primer trabajo nunca es fácil
Pero tenía una conexión por un amigo y eso me hizo entrar.
Fue una firma que no busqué intencionalmente
Pero
Ahora en retrospectiva lo miro con...
Gran admiración porque aprendí tanto...
Y no había manera de saberlo en aquel entonces.
Pero era una oficina, que era buena para aprender.

English: 
firms had kind of more creative people and
the dedication levels also varied you know
and it kind of went hand for me I kind of
noticed a direct relationship between the
kind of design caliber of the firm and the
kind of commitment and also of course, the
time that got spent.
There’s firms that you can easily put in
40 hour weeks and it's fine and there’s
firms where you might put in 50 or 60 hour
weeks and that may be because of demands of
the office or you know oddly enough it may
be because you want to or you're just you
know an 8 hour day, becomes a 9 hour day without
you realizing it or 10 hour day because you're
just doing something you enjoy.
The first office is the office you kind of
I fell into through fortunate circumstances,
obviously getting the job your first job is
never easy so I had a connection through a
friend and that got me in so that's, that
firm I didn't intentionally seek out.
But in hindsight I look back at that time
there with great admiration because I learned
so much and I think there's no way to know
it at the time but it was an office that was

Spanish: 
Después de dejar esa firma quería...
Algo mas "Star-chitect"
Queria... okay, ahora que se como construir
Quiero volver a adoptar el diseño en altura.
Entonces decidí venir a Nueva York
Y fuí lo suficientemente afortunado como para conseguir un trabajo en la firma de Richard Meier
Entonces llegué ahí...
Primeramente, es una oficina mucho mas estructurada.
Pero el tipo de personas que trabajan ahí
Pienso yo eran muy enfocadas, entonces empiezas a aprender
De tus compañeros.
Porque inicialmente Richard Meier era una firma nacional, pero luego había gente de todo el mundo.
Esa oficina fue...
Una dinámica distinta
No diría que era una gran oficina para aprender si eras un joven interno.
Era genial para exponerte pero no creo que hubiese mucha...
Atención o tiempo para que
Alguien te enseñara algo.
El rigor y...
La atención al detalle que obtuve ahí fue genial
 
Los hábitos de dibujo y la calidad...

English: 
- I felt it was a good learning office.
After leaving there then I wanted to do the
kind of ‘starchitect’ thing.
I wanted to okay now I've learned how to build,
but now I wanna really re-embrace the roots
of high design.
So I decided to come to New York and I was
fortunate to get a job at Richard Meier and
Partners.
So I landed there and and it was a you know,
first thing is it's obviously and much more
structured office, but kind of people that
work there are I think much more driven and
so you started learning a lot from your fellow
employees.
Because they were coming you know, Richard
Meier is an international firm there were
people you know from all over the world.
You know that office was it was a different
dynamic I wouldn't necessarily say that was
a great learning office if you're a young
intern it's great to get exposed to it, but
I don't think there was a lot of attention
or time to be able to have someone teach you
something.
The rigor and the kind of attention to detail
that I got there was great the drawing habits

English: 
I mean the type the quality of the drawings
they would do there was amazing, higher end
level of representing architecture was something
that was interesting there.
And being extremely disciplined, you know
obviously, everyone knows the Richard Meier
grid and it's it's a funny way to design,
but it also it gets you to think about the
precision that one can achieve and also how
that then starts relating to construction.
It just happened to be that he was getting
a lot of international work I unfortunately
am not fluent in foreign languages so there
was a clear kind of ceiling for me there,
because it was hard for me to, though I was
running smaller project it was hard to really
be the project architect because I couldn't
go and travel and meet with these clients
and so forth and also even language barriers
in terms of developing drawings, like I started
learning typical German words in written form
to do details, but I couldn't speak German
and so for me, I knew there was kind of a
cap there and it was also you know it's an
intense place to work and you know it would
wear it down a little bit.

Spanish: 
Era maravilloso.
Un nivel superior para representar la arquitectura.
Y ser extremadamente disciplinado.
Obvio todos conocen la cuadricula de Richard Meier.
Es una manera divertida de diseñar pero también te pone a pensar
En la precisión que uno puede lograr
Y como eso se puede interpolar en una construcción.
Sucedía que (Richard Meier) estaba consiguiendo mucho trabajo internacional
Desafortunadamente yo no soy fluido en ningun lenguaje extranjero.
Había un... ah.... claro límite para mi.
Porque a pesar de que estaba encargado de proyectos pequeños
Era dificil ser el arquitecto del proyecto en sí
Porque no podía viajar y reunirme con clientes
E incluso barreras del lenguaje
En términos de desarrollar dibujos
Empecé a aprender palabras tipicas en alemán de manera escrita para hacer detalles
Pero no podía hablar alemán. Y sabía que ahí tenía un impedimento.
Era también, ya sabes, un lugar intenso para trabajar.
Y eso te puede llegar a desgastar un poco.
Pienso que inicié a volverme

Spanish: 
no lo sé, tal vez...
Limitado en
Lo que podía aprender ahí y frustrarme
Con la repetición de hacer el mismo trabajo una y otra vez.
Entonces decidí seguir adelante
Tenía un amigo...
Que conocía a alguien que trabaja en esta firma...Allied Works.
Otra vez, una firma de altura
Pero trabajando en una menor escala que Richard Meier.
Y mayormente proyectos domesticos.
Y entonces me dije: "Bien, puedo volver a ser el arquitecto del proyecto"
Lo cual era mi objetivo desde el inicio.
Inmediatamente me ví envuelto en un gran proyecto residencial privado.
Era para unos grandes coleccionistas de arte
Entonces hicimos multiples edificios en unos 300 acres de tierra.
Inmediatamente volvi a
Involucrarme en dibujos constructivos.
Volver al sitio y ensuciarme las manos.
Finalmente lo que aprendí con el tiempo era que
Disfrutaba el proceso de construir e ir al sitio

English: 
So I think I just started becoming, I don't
know maybe I was just getting limited in what
I could learn there and just getting frustrated
with the kind of repetition of doing that
work over and over.
So I decided I needed to move on.
I had a friend who knew someone that worked
at this firm Allied Works again kind of very
high end design firm but working on a smaller
scale than Richard Meier and mostly domestic
projects, so I said great now I can really
get back into being the project architect
and that think that was my goal in moving.
I immediately got involved on a large private
residential project it was a big estate they
were big art collectors so we were doing multiple
buildings on this you know 300 acres of land
and so I immediately got to get into doing
construction drawings again getting back out
to the site and getting my hands dirty, which
ultimately I've kind of came to learn over
time, is where I enjoy the process the most
is the built work and getting out to the site.

English: 
That's what I never got at Richard I never
really was able to get to the construction
sites and so I think that was subconsciously
pushing me out the door and so now here I
was back into the world that I think I wanted
to be in.
And so I practiced at that firm for six years,
and it actually for me, was the first firm
where it really started to connect again with
how you practiced architecture in school hand
drawing, model making, and hand drawing in
the sense that it's not technical, it was
there's no rulers involved, it was sketching
using pastels, but concept models I mean even
at Richard’s they would make models, but
they were formal presentation models of the
actual buildings and to make concept models
again I was like wow this is really interesting!
And so, so you know now I'm at a point where
I'm bringing back the early work from architecture
school and all the work and all the confidence
and an information and experience I had gotten
from all the other firms and building and
you know it started to come together.

Spanish: 
Eso es lo que nunca conseguí con Richard.
Nunca pude realmente ir al sitio
Y creo que eso subconscientemente me estaba empujando a salir de ahi
Y ahora estaba de vuelta en el mundo en el que yo pensaba que queria estar.
Entonces me quede en esa firma por
6 años.
Para mí fue la primer firma donde
volví a conectar con
como se debe practicar la arquitectura.
Dibujo a mano... maqueteo...
Dibujo a mano, no en el sentido técnico
Es boceteado, usar lapices
Pero... maquetas conceptuales?
Con Richard, hacian modelos pero era un producto terminado y formal
De propiamente edificios.
Volví a hacer maquetas conceptuales, se me hacía muy interesante.
Y así...
Volví a trabajar de la misma manera
Que en la temprana escuela de arquitectura.
Y toda la confianza, información y experiencia.
Que había conseguido en otras firmas
Empezaban a dar frutos.

English: 
Work just happened to get a little slow for
them at the time and so for me again, it just
seem like a jumping off point.
One thing I always tell younger architects
is that early in the profession it's easier
to jump around between jobs because the the
commitment that an office has to make to you
is a little bit less.
And so for me now you know I'm asking for
a good salary I'm also having 15 years of
experience so they're not just gonna ask me
to draft right?
And so when you're younger, I think you can
just get jobs, if a firm feels that they have
a lot of work they’ll just bring you in
and you can get exposure.
So now I'm in a position which I realize after
the fact that I now need to plug a very specific
spot, like they're not just gonna bring me
in because they're busy there needs to be
a specific job a specific role available.
It doesn't mean that they're not there, it's
just that process takes longer and I didn't
realize that because every time I fortunately
before that it was either through connections
because you knew an opportunity was there
or you know with Meier I just applied but

Spanish: 
El trabajo empezó a volverse lento en aquel tiempo
Para mí otra vez, parecía un punto de partida.
Algo que le diría a jovenes arquitectos es que
Temprano en su carrera puede ser facil cambiar de trabajos muchas veces.
Porque el compromiso que una firma espera de alguien joven es menor
Entonces para mí ahora.
Espero un buen salario
Y tengo 15 años de experiencia entonces no solo me van a pedir dibujar.
Entonces pienso que cuando eres joven puedes solo conseguir trabajo.
si una firma tiene demasiada carga, ellos pueden simplemente introducirte y asi puedes conseguir exposicion.
Pero ahora estoy en una posición.
En la que tengo que aplicar a un puesto muy especifico
No me van a contratar solo porque tienen mucho que hacer.
Tiene que haber un motivo especifico
Un cargo especifico disponible.
Y no es que ellos (arquitectos jovenes) no esten a la altura, es que el proceso toma tiempo.
Y yo no me daba cuenta de eso y es porque afortunadamente cada trabajo que habia tenido
Era por conexiones
Porque sabía que la oportunidad estaba ahi. O con Meier solamente apliqué.
Pero en ese entonces ya tenía 5 años de experiencia.

English: 
again I had only five years of experience
I wasn't, it wasn't a major ask I was making
so they brought me in just because they were
busy not because of any specific job.
A person I had overlapped with briefly at
Richard Meier’s office, his name was Thomas
Juul Hanson and he had gone out on his own
when I was still at Richard's the thing that
was unique about his office and accepting
that offer is that he was doing developer
work, which I had never done before and admittedly,
was a little bit nervous about getting into
because I didn't know if it was gonna be what
I was into doing.
The funny thing is that, after accepting the
offer from Thomas and starting there then
I started hearing back from the other firms
and I realized you know too late that it's
at that point it's a really long process and
I've actually even done it since when I was
at Thomas I had been talking to some other
people where you it's actually you culminate
a relationship over months like you, first
kind of get your foot in the door you introduce

Spanish: 
No estaba pidiendo nada tan grande.
Entonces ellos me aceptaron porque estaban cargados, no porque tenian un cargo especifico para mi.
Alguien con quien...
Conecté momentaniamente en la oficina de Meier, su nombre es Thomas Juul Hansen
El ya se habia ido por su cuenta cuando yo seguía con Richard.
Lo que era único acerca de él...
Y su oficina, y aceptar su oferta era que él estaba haciendo
Trabajo de desarrollador, lo cual yo nunca había hecho antes.
Y... eh...
Admito que estaba un poco nervioso.
Porque no sabia si era lo que yo estaba haciendo antes.
Lo gracioso es que después de aceptar la oferta...
De Thomas y empezar a trabajar ahi es que
Empecé a escuchar de vuelta acerca de las otras firmas.
Y me dí cuenta, muy tarde, de que...
Llegar a ese punto es un proceso muy largo
Y de hecho cuando estaba con Thomas
Hablaba con otras personas con las cuales
Culminas una relación en cuestión de meses.
Desde el momento que te presentas con ellos.
Y después, honestamente...

Spanish: 
Si ambos lados se agradan, pueden mantener el contacto
Porque les gusta tener gente disponible para ellos
Que sean buenos, que saben que pueden contar con ellos cuando sea necesario.
Pero puede que no sea en ese momento específico.
Y así...
Yo, yo no sabía eso.
Tal vez debí de hacerlo.
Igual al final no fue un problema, conseguí un trabajo.
No pasé mucho tiempo buscando trabajo.
Pero en sí...
Me forzó a tomar una decisión si tener
Todas las oportunidades presentes.
Incluso si no estas interesado en liderar una firma desde el inicio
No está mal hacer entrevistas.
Y lo digo por un par de motivos.
Primero porque el proceso toma tiempo
Segundo no deberías pensar en una entrevista no solo como para tí
Sino para la firma, y ver si esa es una firma en la que estas interesado
Y después también...
Ayuda para determinar lo que estas estas haciendo que te gusta, y lo que no.

English: 
yourself and then you know honestly if both
parties like each other you kind of stay in
touch because they like they like they like
to have people available to them that are
good that they know they can bring in when
they need to but they may not need them at
that specific time and so I you know, I didn't
know that, I mean maybe I should have, so
I mean in the end it wasn't a problem I got
a job and I wasn't you know, looking for work
for a very long time, but it did it did force
me to make a decision without having you know,
all the opportunities laid out.
Even if you're not necessarily looking at
leaving a firm right away it's sometimes not
the worst thing to interview and I say that
for a couple of reasons.
One is one because the process takes a while,
two, you should think about an interview as
not only them interviewing you but you interviewing
the firm.
You should see if that's a firm you're even
interested in, right?
And then also it helps bring into focus what
you are doing that you like and that you're
not doing that you like.

English: 
I've actually gone to interviews where I come
back from the interview being confident that
where I am is where I wanna be.
And because you get to go to these interviews
and you you talk about yourself and what you're
doing in a way that you don't ever really
do.
Yeah you talk to friends about projects, but
you never really talk about it in a very kind
of disciplined way and for me it was just
a way to kind of refocus myself and say am
I happy where I am or not?
Roughly 20 years over four different firms
I decided to create Eponymous.
It's funny because while you're working at
a firm you know, I don't think people will
consider you for projects because of that
but then the minute they realize that you're
not in a firm anymore, that you're on your
own, you all of the sudden got an opportunity
that they may not have considered you for.

Spanish: 
He ido a entrevistas en las cuales
Vuelvo pensando que en donde estoy es en donde quiero estar.
Y es que por ir a estas entrevistas
Y hablar de tí y lo que haces.
En una manera en la que no sueles.
Y si... hablas con tus amigos acerca de tus proyectos
Pero nunca lo haces de una manera disciplinada
Para mi era una manera de pensar
Y preguntarme si estoy feliz en el lugar que estoy.
Cerca de 20 años en 4 firmas distintas
Decidi crear Eponymous
Es gracioso que cuando trabajas en una firma
No pienso que las personas te consideren para proyectos por eso.
Pero cuando se dan cuenta que no estas mas con una firma.
Y que estas por tu cuenta.
De repente ven una oportunidad que de otra manera no hubiesen visto.
