. 
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL RIGHT, GOOD 
EVENING.
THE THIRD MEETING OF THE 24th 
COUNSEL WILL COME TO ORDER.
ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE MOMENT OF 
SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE 
OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH AND 
I'LL ASK COUNCILOR PEÑA TO LEAD 
US IN SPANISH.
JOIN US IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE 
PLEASE.
>>ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO 
THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR 
WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION 
UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH 
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> [THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN 
SPANISH ].
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL RIGHT, THANK 
YOU FOR HELPING US WITH THAT.
CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSERIZE 
PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE 
PUBLIC, YOU CAN OBTAIN ONE FROM 
OUR COUNSEL STAFF AT THE SIGN UP
TABLE.
WE MAY TAKE A BREAK AT 7:00 P.M.
A COUPLE RULES OF THE HOUSE, WE 
WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE
AS CIVIL AS POSSIBLE.
PLEASE NO ATTACKS OR APPLAUSE 
DURING THE MEETING.
THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF 
WE'RE RESPECTFUL FOR ONE 
ANOTHER.
WE HAVE THE RULES OF DECORUM, IF
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM THERE ARE 
NO SIGNS, PROPS, OR POSTERS 
ALLOWED IN THE CHAMBERS OTHER 
THAN THOSE AVAILABLE FOR THE 
OVERHEAD.
THEY CAN'T BE WAIVED OR HELD 
THAT BLOCKS THE VIEW.
ITEMS AT THE OVERHEAD MUST BE 
REMOVED AT THE END OF PUBLIC 
COMMENT.
ONLY THE COUNSEL PRESIDENT MAY 
CALL PEOPLE TO STAND THAT 
PODIUM.
A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR 
PUBLIC COMMENT IS ENFORCED.
PUBLIC COMMENT HAS TO BE 
DIRECTED AT THE COUNSEL THROUGH 
THE COUNSEL PRESIDENT NOT AT 
STAFF OR MEMBER OF THOSE 
AUDIENCE.
THERE'S NO TOLERANCE FOR PUBLIC 
OUTBURST.
THE HANDICAP LANDING MUST BE 
KEPT CLEAR AT ALL TIMES. THOSE 
DESIRING TO RECORD IS TO STAND 
AT THE LEFT SIDE.
FOR ANYONE THAT MAY CAUSE A 
DISRUPTION THIS EVENING I'LL 
GIVE YOU ONE WARNING.
UPON ATTEND DISRUPTION WE WILL 
ASK TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE 
PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
COUNCILOR BORREGO HAS THREE.
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO HER TO 
PRESENT THOSE THIS EVENING.
>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS.
AS PROMISED, WE'RE CHANGING THE 
RULES A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 
PROCLAMATIONS AND SO I'M ONLY 
GOING TO READ THE FIRST LINE OR 
THE INTENT OF EACH PROCLAMATION 
AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK EACH 
INDIVIDUAL TO COME AND RECEIVE 
THAT PROCLAMATION.
IF ANY ORGANIZATIONS ARE 
INTERESTED IN HAVING ONE OF THE 
COUNCILORS ATTEND THEIR MEETING,
OR ORGANIZATION, YOU CAN DO THAT
BY REQUESTING THAT.
SO, I'M GOING TO START THIS 
EVENING WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE KAREN 
DOUGLAS TO RECEIVE IT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD 
PLEASE?
JUST COME TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU 
WOULD.
SO, WHEREAS THE LEAGUE OF 
WOMEN'S VOTERS IS TO ENCOURAGE 
AND INFORM AN AFFECT PUBLIC 
PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNMENT AND 
ITS WORK IS TO INCRES 
UNDERSTANDING OF MAJOR PUBLIC 
POLICY ISSUES AND INFLUENCE 
POLICY THROUGH EDUCATION AND 
ADVOCACY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS 
WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 
WE APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL'S
RECOGNITION.
THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WAS 
FOUNDED ON FEBRUARY 14th OF 1920
AND CAME FROM THE NATIONAL 
AMERICAN WOMEN SUFFRAGE 
ORGANIZATION.
THE INITIAL PRESIDENT WAS TERRY 
CHAPMAN.
THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF 
NEW MEXICO WAS FOUNDED IN MAY 
1950.
THE FIRST CONVENTION AND THERE 
WAS A PASSING OF THE GAVEL FROM 
THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF WOMEN 
VOTERS TO THE STATE.
THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO 
COUNTY LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS 
WAS FOUNDED IN 1948 AND 
TRANSITIONED TO THE CURRENT 
WOMEN'S VOTERS OF CENTRAL NEW 
MEXICO REPRESENTING BERNALILLO 
COUNTY, SANDOVAL, TORRANCE AND 
VALENCIA COUNTY.
AND WE HAD OUR 100th BIRTH DAY 
PARTY LAST SATURDAY.
>>COUN. BORREGO: 
CONGRATULATIONS, COME FORWARD 
AND GET YOUR PROCLAMATION.
[APPLAUSE ].
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR BORREGO FOR PRESENTING
THAT.
BACK TO COUNCILOR BORREGO.
>>COUN. BORREGO: THE NEXT 
PROCLAMATION I HAVE IS FOR THE 
AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE JOSH MARTINEZ AND MELISA
SANCHEZ, WHO ARE BOTH BOARD 
MEMBERS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD?
GOOD EVENING.
SO TODAY WAS AMERICAN HEART 
ASSOCIATION'S CELEBRATION AND I 
BELIEVE IT WAS WOMEN GO RED OR 
SOMETHING.
WE'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING 
FEBRUARY AS AMERICAN HEART MONTH
FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING THIS 
EVENING?
>> YES, I'M A BOARD MEMBER WITH 
THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO 
LIVE HEALTHIER LIFESTYLES.
>> THANK YOU, I'M THE COMMUNITY 
IMPACT DIRECTOR FOR THE HEART 
ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO.
WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY 
COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING US 
DURING THIS MONTH OF FEBRUARY, 
NATIONAL HEART MONTH.
IT'S REALLY A TIME FOR US TO 
BRING AWARENESS OF HEART DISEASE
AND STROKE ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
AND ACROSS NEW MEXICO.
HEART DISEASE IS NUMBER ONE 
CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE UNITED 
STATES AND ACROSS THE WORLD AND 
HERE IN NEW MEXICO.
AN ISSUE THAT IMPACTS SO MANY 
LIVES.
IF YOU RECALL, BACK IN AUGUST OF
2019 THE CITY COUNCIL 
UNANIMOUSLY PASSED OUR COMPLETE 
STREETS ORDINANCE WHICH WAS 
SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR BENTON.
REALLY, JUST EMPHASIZING AND 
SHOWING THAT THE CITY OF 
ALBUQUERQUE CARES ABOUT ITS 
RESIDENT AND MAKING IT A SAFER 
PLACE FOR US AND A HEALTHIER 
PLACE FOR US TO LIVE, WORK, AND 
PLAY.
>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR 
BEING HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD?
[ APPLAUSE ].
>>COUN. BORREGO: COUNSEL 
PRESIDENT, SHALL I CONTINUE?
OUR FINAL PROCLAMATION THIS 
EVENING IS FOR SELFLESS SENIORS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE 13 SENIORS 
HERE TONIGHT.
IF THEY'RE HERE, WOULD YOU COME 
FORWARD?
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS 
PROCLAMATION DOES.
IT RECOGNIZES THE GENEROSITY OF 
AND SELFLESSNESS OF STUDENTS 
THROUGHOUT OUR CITY WITH 
RECOGNITION TO THEIR LEADERSHIP.
AND I'M, FOR THE RECORD GOING TO
READ THEIR NAMES.
THESE ARE FROM ALL AROUND THE 
CITY.
[READING RECIPIENT NAMES ].
IF I DESTROY YOUR NAMES, I 
APOLOGIZE.
[ READING RECIPIENT NAMES ].
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING 
THIS EVENING?
>> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU 
PRESIDENT DAVIS, COUNCILORS, 
CITIZENS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE 
DIRECTOR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE 
PUBLIC SCHOOLS EDUCATION 
FOUNDATION.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE FOUNDATION,
AND OUR BOARD OF EDUCATION AND 
OUR SELFLESS SENIORS, I WANT TO 
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE 
SERVICE OF THESE INCREDIBLE SOON
TO BE GRADUATES. I HAVE A BRIEF 
COMMENT FROM THE BOARD OF 
EDUCATION, THEY SEND ITS REGRETS
OF NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE 
CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT.
THEY THANK YOU FOR HONORING 
THESE MOST PASSIONATE AND 
COMPASSIONATE SENIORS OF THE 
CLASS OF 2020.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THESE YOUNG 
PEOPLE, WE'RE PROUD OF THEM AND 
WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GREAT 
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DISTRICT 
AND CITY.
I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT 12 YEARS
AGO FRANK PHOTOGRAPHY DECIDED IT
WAS TIME TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY 
OUR STUDENTS ARE CONTRIBUTING 
TREMENDOUS GOOD WORKS WITHIN OUR
CITY.
SO WITH THAT, HE STARTED 
SELFLESS SENIORS WITH THE 
ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND AS FRANK WOULD SAY, I WILL 
QUOTE HIM, HE WAS NOT LOOKING TO
HONOR THOSE ALREADY SPOTLIGHTED,
NOT THE QUARTERBACK, NOT THE 
STUDENT COUNSEL PRESIDENT, NOT 
THE VALEDICTORIAN.
HE WANT TODAY HIGHLIGHT THE 
STUDENTS WHO GAVE BACK TO THE 
COMMUNITY WITHOUT EXPECTATION 
AND PRAISE.
THEY STAND VERY FAR BEHIND ME.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE UP FRONT.
WE TOLD EACH CLASS THEY 
REPRESENT THEIR RESPECTIVE 
SCHOOLS AND THEIR SPIRIT THAT 
GOES THROUGH THEIR HALLS.
NOW WE CAN TELL THEM BECAUSE OF 
THIS PROCLAMATION, THEY ALSO 
REPRESENT THE GENEROUS SPIRIT OF
THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE.
I'M GETTING CHOKED UP, I LOVE 
THESE KIDS.
AND TO REMIND US ALL WE CAN TAKE
TIME TO GET THOSE IN NEED AND 
CHAMMIAN AN IMPORTANT CAUSE AND 
GIVE VOICE TO THE VOICELESS AND 
WE CAN MAYBE OUR COMMUNITY AND 
CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE FRIENDS 
AND FAMILY OF THE 14 SELFLESS 
SENIORS TO STAND SO WE ALSO MAY 
RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THE WONDERFUL
STUDENTS WE HAVE BEFORE US.
[ APPLAUSE ].
>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU.
I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU COME 
FORWARD.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR 
BORREGO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING 
THOSE AND GIVING US A TEST DRIVE
OF THE WAY WE VOTE.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE 
THAT REPRESENT OUR CITY.
HOPEFULALLY OUR FUTURE LEADERS 
AND CITY COUNCILS SO WE CAN 
RETIRE.
NEXT UP, WE GO TO THE ECONOMIC 
DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS.
THERE ARE NONE.
WE HAVE A -- REGARDING THE ABQ 
NEIGHBORHOODS PROGRAM.
WELCOME BACK.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNSEL PRESIDENT DAVIS, AND 
MEMBER OF THOSE COUNSEL AND CITY
STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE 
THINGS THAT YOU DO TO TRY TO 
MAKE ALBUQUERQUE A BETTER PLACE 
TO LIVE.
AND I'M HERE TO GIVE A BRIEF 
PRESENTATION ON THE ALBUQUERQUE 
NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAMS.
THIS PROGRAM STARTED THREE YEARS
AGO AND IT'S A BRIEF 
PRESENTATION, YOU CAN TELL THAT 
BECAUSE EVERYTHING I PLAN TO SAY
CAN FIT ON ONE PAGE.
THIS BEGAN ABOUT THREE YEARS 
AGO.
I WASN'T HERE AT THAT TIME, MY 
UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS A 
BRAINSTORM BETWEEN SUE POPE ART,
AND COUNCILOR BENTON.
AND IT GREW OUT OF THAT.
THERE WERE PROBABLY LOTS OF 
OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN PUTTING
IT TOGETHER AND THE IDEAS AND 
BRAINSTORMING CREATING IT.
I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEM SINCE I
WASN'T HERE.
I JUST WANT TO START WITH THAT.
AND THE PROGRAM IN THOSE THREE 
YEARS, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT 
WE HAVE ACROSS 11 COMMUNITY 
PLANNINGS, WE HAVE 2200 TREES 
THAT HAVE GONE OUT INTO THE 
COMMUNITY.
WE STARTED OUT WITH ONE OR TWO 
PLANTINGS A SEASON AND THIS YEAR
WE ARE GOING TO ADD 1400 MORE 
TREES TO THAT TOTAL NUMBER.
AND WE DO, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, 
WE MONITORING WITH THAT.
AND IT'S A THREE-YEAR MONITORING
COMMITMENTMENT.
WE SEND THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY 
MONITOR EVERY TREE.
THEY INDICATED WE HAVE AN 85% 
SURVIVAL RATE.
THAT'S A GOOD RATE.
AND ESPECIALLY IN THAT ONE YEAR 
WHERE WE HAD NO WINTER MOISTURE,
A HOT SPRING AND NO SUMMER 
MOISTURE.
THAT WAS BRUTAL.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE 
THINGS IN THE PROGRAM.
WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET
THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT 
PLACE FOR THE RIGHT REASON.
THAT INCLUDES DIVERSITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SMALL, MEDIUM, 
AND LARGE TREES.
THIS PROGRAM IS TO TRAIN 
HOMEOWNERS TO CARE FOR THE 
TREES.
THE HOMEOWNER COMMITS TO 
WATERING THE TREE.
WE'RE TRAINING HOMEOWNERS AS 
BEST WE CAN, GIVEN MANY ARE 
VOLUNTEERS.
AND WE ARE CONTINUALLY TRAINING 
A LARGE PORTION OF TREE-STREET 
LEADERS.
AND THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT 
COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN TO OUR
PLANTING PROGRAMS AND HELP US 
GET THE VOLUNTEERS TOGETHER TO 
GET THOSE TREES IN THE GROUND.
THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGN TODAY 
STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S QUITE HEARTWARMING WHEN YOU
HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR THAT IS GOING 
AWAY FOR THE WEEK AND ASKS 
ANOTHER NEIGHBOR TO WATER THE 
TREE.
WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
ASSOCIATION HAS TO CANVAS TO GET
COMMITMENTS FOR A HUNDRED TREES 
IT'S KNOCKING ON A LOT OF DOORS.
AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE TALKING TO
PEOPLE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD 
THEY'VE NEVER SPOKEN WITH 
BEFORE.
THAT'S REALLY A GREAT WAY TO 
STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE URBAN 
CANOPY, AND THIS HELPS 
WALKABILITY AND HOME VALUES.
WE'RE WORKING TO MITIGATE THE 
RISING HEAT.
THE MORE TREES WE CAN GET IN THE
GROUND THE MORE WE CAN DO THAT.
SOME OF THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT 
WHEN YOU HAVE SHADE, IT BRINGS 
THE HEAT IN THE HOUSE DOWN UP TO
20 DEGREES IN THE SUMMER.
THAT'S A LOT OF ENERGY SAVINGS.
I WANT TO JUST NOTE THAT THIS 
PROGRAM IS A REALLY COOL PUBLIC 
PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCILOR, TREE
NEW MEXICO, WE HAVE AN OVER 
SIGHT COMMITTEE AND SOME 
PLANNERS AND ARCHITECTS, THEY 
VOLUNTEER TO GIVE US FEEDBACK 
AND GIVE US APPLICATIONS AT 
TIMES.
WE HAVE A GREAT NETWORK OF 
PARTNERSHIPS.
SO THAT INCLUDES, ALBUQUERQUE 
PARKS AND REC, OPEN SPACE, 
BERNALILLO COUNTY WATER 
AUTHORITY, THE STATE URBAN 
FORESTRY PROGRAM, ALBUQUERQUE 
BERNALILLO COUNTY TREE STEWARDS,
THAT'S THE PROGRAM TO TRAIN THE 
FUTURE CITIZENS TO TAKE CARE OF 
THE 100,000 TREES WE'RE GOING TO
PUT IN THE GROUND.
WE HAVE THE 25 TRAINED 
VOLUNTEERS AND THE TEAM LEADERS.
AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE 
REALLY WORKING TO BUILD THIS 
TREE PLANTING FORCE TOGETHER, 
LAST YEAR EACH OF THE TREE 
PLANTING GROUPS HAD THEIR OWN 
NEW MEXICO ARBOR DAY EVENT.
THIS YEAR, WE CAME TOGETHER AND 
WE ALL PLANNED ONE EVENT ON THE 
14th AT THE MARTINEZ TOWN PARK 
WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND
DO A COUPLE HOURS OF TREE 
PLANTING, EDUCATION AND FUN.
INSTEAD OF COMPETING FOR 
ATTENTION AND MONEY AND CITIZENS
AND VOLUNTEERS, WE'RE COMING ALL
TOGETHER TO DO THAT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THIS 
NETWORK REALLY HELPS US DO.
WE CAN CALCULATE THAT EVERY 
PLANTING WE HAVE 50 TO 70 
HOMEOWNERS AND CITIZEN 
VOLUNTEERS TO PUT THEM IN THE 
GROUND.
ACROSS THOSE 11 PLANTINGS IT'S 
BEEN VAST AMOUNT OF CITIZEN 
VOLUNTEERS, THIS YEAR THERE WILL
BE A THOUSAND MORE.
IT'S A FUN PROGRAM, COME OUT AND
PLANT SOME TREES WITH US.
>>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR 
COMING DOWN AND PRESENTING.
IT'S BEEN EIGHT OR TEN YEARS 
THAT I SAT DOWN FOR LUNCH WITH 
SUSANNE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE 
CAN WORK TOGETHER.
IT'S HEARTWARMING TO SEE.
IT'S BRINGING NEIGHBORHOODS 
TOGETHER.
IT'S COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.
PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND 
EVERYBODY PITCHING IN AND JUST 
THROUGH THIS GETTING TO KNOW 
EACH OTHER BETTER.
IT'S JUST ONE GOOD AFTER 
ANOTHER.
IT'S REALLY BEEN GREAT TO SEE 
HOW EFFECTIVE IT'S BEEN.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS 
NOW AND HOPING TO GEAR UP WITH 
SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY 
EQUIVALENCE.
IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROGRAM 
ALL TOGETHER.
WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO JUMP 
INTO THAT.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY 
TO REFOREST OUR CITY OUR CLIMATE
IS CHANGING.
WE DO NEED SHADE.
WE ALWAYS DID.
BUT WE NEED IT EVEN MORE WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THE COST OF AIR 
CONDITIONING AND JUST COMFORT OF
THE FOLKS IN THE STREETS.
I JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK THE 
NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH HAVE 
PARTICIPATED AND HAVE BEEN A LOT
OF DISTRICT TWO AND OTHER 
DISTRICTS AS WELL.
IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED.
ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT IT IS 
THAT WE HAVE THAT IT'S 
DATA-DRIVEN, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS 
HAVE THE BIGGEST NEED FOR MORE 
TREE CANOPY AND SHADE.
AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S SOME OF
THE POPULATIONS THAT CAN BENEFIT
FROM COMFORTABLE WALK TO THE BUS
IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE BUS OR 
A COMFORTABLE WALK TO SERVICES 
OR WHATEVER.
JUST COOLING DOWN THESE 
NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOMETIMES 
THEY'VE BEEN NEGLECTED BY 
PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THIS IS 
BRINGING BACK A VIBRANCY THAT 
PROBABLY EXITED AT ONE TIME IN 
TERMS OF TREE CANOPY.
>>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I WAS PLEASED TO GET TO 
PARTICIPATE IN THIS LAST YEAR.
IT WAS A LITTLE CHILLY BUT IT 
WAS OKAY.
THE BEST PART FOR ME WAS THAT I 
GOT HANDED A SHOVEL AND THEY 
TOLD ME I COULD DIG INTO THE 
DIRT AND PUT IT ON THE TREE.
AND KIND OF IMPLIED, IF YOU KNOW
HOW, YOU OLD LADY.
OF COURSE I DO KNOW HOW.
I'M A FARM GIRL.
IT WAS REALLY FUN.
AND IT WAS SO EXCITING TO SEE 
THE HOMEOWNERS.
THEY WERE PLEASED WITH THE 
TREES.
THE ONE LADY WE WENT TO SAID 
THIS IS THE TREE I WANTED.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS 
LOOKING AN AT.
THANK YOU, IT'S AN AMAZING 
PROGRAM FOR OUR CITY.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I WANT TO THANK
YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE LAST 
PEOPLE THIS LAST YEAR TO HAVE IT
DONE IN TAYLOR RANCH.
FIRST OF ALL, THE COST BENEFIT 
IS HUGE.
AND ANY COUNCILOR WHO HASN'T 
PARTICIPATED, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
DO IT.
I THINK JUST IN TERMS OF SHADE 
AND CLEANING AIR AROUND US, 
PLANTS PLAY A HUGE PART IN THAT.
I HAVE SO MUCH POSITIVE RESPONSE
FROM THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT 
PARTICIPATED.
THEY WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS 
PROGRAM.
I WANT TO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME JUST ADD, 
THANKS FOR INCLUDING EXPANDING 
THIS PROJECT AFTER YOU FIGURED 
OUT HOW TO DO THIS.
ONE OF THE LESSONS I LEARNED IS 
HOW IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR YOU TO 
WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND 
COMMUNITY TO DO IT WELL.
IT WAS HARD FOR US TO GET IT 
STARTED IN A COUPLE DISTRICTS.
I LEARNED IF I STAY ONE OF THE 
WAY YOU DO THIS WELL, AND YOUR 
NEIGHBORHOOD APPRECIATE IT AND I
APPRECIATE IT.
I GET TO SEE TWO WHOLE BLOCKS 
AND THEY WERE RELENTLESS ON 
KNOCKING ON DOORS.
FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THEY'RE 
GOING TO HAVE A SHADED STREET.
IT MAKES A BENEFIT.
I ACKNOWLEDGE, AND THE MAYOR 
MADE IT A PRIORITY TO EXPAND AND
REFORCE  -- REFOREST THE TREE 
CANOPY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A COMMUNITY 
ORGANIZER.
>> THANK YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER 
QUESTIONS FOR THAT.
IS IN HEARING NONE, WE'RE MOVING
TO ADMINISTRATION Q&A.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE 
ADMINISTRATION?
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I'M WONDERING, WE JUST GOT A 
REPORT FOR SOME OF THE CAPITAL 
OUT LAY COMING FROM THE SESSION 
IN SANTA FE.
THERE'S ONE THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE
GATEWAY CENTER SOCIAL SERVICE 
PORTAL CONSTRUCTION FOR $50,000 
FROM THE STB FUND.
I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT MEANS?
>> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR 
BASSAN, WE MADE A REQUEST OF THE
LEGISLATURE TO MATCH THE CITY 
HAS PUT INTO THE GATEWAY CENTER 
PROJECT.
WE DID NOT GET $14 MILLION BUT 
WE DID GET $50,000.
 >> NARRATOR: I ALSO HAVE ONE 
MORE QUESTION.
IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS I'VE 
HEARD FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT 
PEOPLE, WE HAD COMMANDER BURKE, 
AND IT SWITCHED TO COMMANDER 
SANCHEZ AND COMMANDER DURAN IS 
OUR NORTHEAST AREA COMMANDER.
I JUST FOUND OUT THIS MORNING IS
A TEMPORARY COMMANDER IN THE 
NORTHEAST HEIGHTS.
I REALIZE THERE'S HIGH 
ON THIS.
WE REACHED OUT FOR SOME HELP 
WITH CONSTITUENT CONCERNS.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE GOOD 
POLICING EFFORTS IF WE'RE HAVING
A HIGH TURNOVER FOR THIS.
ONE WAS PULLED AWAY FOR THE DOJ 
RESEARCH.
I GUESS THAT WAS COMMANDER 
SANCHEZ.
I WONDER WHAT YOU CAN DO OR IF 
THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S 
THIS HIGH TURNOVER.
OR IF WOE CAN GET A PROACTIVE 
APPROACH OF WHO OUR COMMANDERS 
ARE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
CLEARLY, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER 
JOB COMMUNICATING WITH YOU.
I'LL INVITE LIEUTENANT TO COME 
DOWN AND SPEAK IN MORE 
SPECIFICS.
COMMANDER SANCHEZ WAS BACK IN 
SPECIAL OPS.
WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TAKE OUT 
THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE
HE'S DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB 
BRINGING THAT IN COMPLIANCE.
WHENEVER THEY PROMOTE A 
COMMANDER WE GIVE THEM ACTIVE 
STATUSES.
IT MEANS THAT IS SOMETHING WE 
HAVE A PERFORMANCE REVIEW AFTER 
A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS AND 
IT TURNS TO PERMANENT.
IF YOU SEE THE ACTING, THAT 
DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL CHANGE 
AGAIN.
>> COUNCILORS, SO ON AUGUST 20, 
THE SWITCH WAS MADE AND 
COMMANDER PAUL DURAN TOOK OVER 
AND HE'S THE COMMANDER FOR THE 
NORTHEAST AREA COMMAND.
THIS IS MY FIRST DAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS.
IS THAT BETTER?
SORRY.
GOOD?
OKAY.
SO, ON APRIL 20, I'M SORRY, 
AUGUST 20 COMMANDER PAUL DURAN 
TOOK THE NORTHEAST AREA 
COMMANDER.
AND HE'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE 
COMPLARIFICATION -- 
CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
AND WE'RE ENJOYING THE HELP AND 
SERVICES UP THERE IN THE 
NORTHEAST HEIGHTS.
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT ACTING 
DOESN'T NECESSARILY EQUAL 
TEMPORARY.
IF WE CAN GET A BIT MORE OPEN 
COMMUNICATION ON THAT SO WE CAN 
HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS ON WHO 
TALK TO MORE PROACTIVELY, THAT 
WOULD BE AWESOME.
THANK YOU.
>>COUN. BENTON: WE'VE HAD A LOT 
OF TURNOVER IN THE  VALLEY 
COMMAND.
WE'RE SORRY TO HAVE LOST OFFICER
DEL GREICO IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
IT'S BEEN TOUGH.
IT'S TOUGHER FOR US WITH OUR 
CONSTITUENTS AND WE'RE CONFUSED 
AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE CONFUSED.
NOT TO HAMMER HOME THE POINT, 
BUT WE REALLY NEED THE 
COMMUNICATION AND WHERE 
POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE 
DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS DRIVING AND
MOVING FORWARD TO IMPROVE AND WE
APPRECIATE THAT.
WHEREVER POSSIBLE, STABILITY FOR
SOME PERIOD OF TIME IN THESE 
ASSIGNMENTS IS APPRECIATED BY 
NOT ONLY OURSELVES BUT OUR 
CONSTITUENTS AND IT'S BECAUSE 
THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
PEOPLE GET USED TO A GOOD 
COMMANDER AND THEY GET THE JOB 
DONE AND THEY KNOW THE CELL 
PHONE.
JUST HAVE TO KEEP THE CELL PHONE
NUMBERS AVAILABLE.
>> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR 
BENTON, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
WE WERE SAD WHEN ZACK WESLEY DID
RETIRE AND THAT RESULTED IN JOSH
SWITCHING.
I WON'T MAKE HIM TALK ABOUT 
HIMSELF, HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB 
IN THE DOWNTOWN SAFETY DISTRICT.
WE'VE GOT A CHANGE WITH AARON 
JONES WHO ALSO DO A GREAT JOB.
PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE 
LIEUTENITANT IS A GREAT 
COMMUNICATOR, AND WE REALIZED WE
DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF 
CONTACT FOR THE COUNSEL.
YOU CAN CALL THE CHIEF AND 
POLICE AND AREA COMMANDER, FOR 
THINGS LIKE THIS AND PREPARING 
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, 
WE'VE ASKED HIM TO STEP UP AND 
TAKE THAT.
DEFINITELY GET HIS CONTACT 
INFORMATION SO HE CAN BE THAT 
PERSON TO CONTACT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR 
BORREGO.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I SHARE 
COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR 
BENTON'S CONCERN IN MY DISTRICT 
AS WELL.
I'VE HAD TWO ACTING COMMANDERS.
IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON I HAVE
ANOTHER COMMENT FOR THE 
ADMINISTRATION.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK, BECAUSE I 
RECENTLY SENT A LETTER TO THE 
MAYOR'S OFFICE REGARDING THE 
CALL CENTER AND SOME ISSUES I'VE
SEEN.
I HAVE TO ADMIT LAST WEEK I WENT
ON A TOUR OF THE CALL CENTER AND
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE 
STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE 
CALL CENTER.
NIGHT BEFORE LAST THERE WAS A 
STORY ON THE NEWS REGARDING THE 
CALL CENTER.
I LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS 
REGARDING THAT.
>> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR 
BORREGO, YOU HAD ANOTHER SAD 
RETIREMENT WHEN DONNIE LEFT THE 
NORTHWEST BUT YOU HAVE A GREAT 
COMMANDER NOW.
HOPEFULLY THAT'S A GOOD CHANGE 
FOR YOU.
THANKS FOR RAISING 311 AND THANK
YOU FOR THE LETTER.
WE'VE GOTTEN CONCERNS FROM OTHER
FOLKS ON THE COUNSEL ABOUT 311 
WE DECIDED TO LAY OUT THE 
ISSUES.
IOWON'T GO OVER EVERYTHING WE 
SAID, THAT'S PUBLICY AVAILABLE.
WE TAKE AN AVERAGE OF 900,000 
QUESTIONS PER YEAR.
AND YOU CAN ASK YOUR ALEXA UNIT 
FOR BASIC INFORMATION.
WE HEARD ABOUT THE UNRESOLVED 
TICKETS AND WE STARTED TAKING 
STEPS TO CHANGE THAT.
WE HAD VACANCIES IN THE CALL 
CENTER WHICH I BELIEVE IS ONE OF
YOUR CONCERNS.
THOSE POSITIONS CAN BE DIFFICULT
TO FILL AND WE'VE GOTTEN THEM 
FILLED NOW.
THE RESULT IS IN TWO YEARS 
UNRESOLVED TICKETS ACROSS THE 
CITY HAVE DROPPED BY 90%.
THESE NUMBERS WERE PART OF 
ANIMAL WELFARE AND A 93% DROP IN
TRANSIT AND 83% DROP IN SOLID 
WASTE.
THAT SAID, WE HAVE SPECIFIC 
PROBLEMS AS WELL.
ONE THING IS WHEN DO WE CALL A 
CALL RESOLVED?
WHEN IS IT ACTUALLY DONE?
THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
ONE OF THE SUBSETS OF THE 
PROBLEM WAS IS WHEN WE HAVE TO 
HAND IT OFF TO ANOTHER AGENCY.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS STREET 
LIGHTS.
WE GET TWEETED ABOUT THAT ALL 
THE TIME.
THE STREET LIGHTS ARE SERVICED 
BY THE CITY IF THEY'RE CITY 
OWNED OR PNM.
FROM THE CITIZEN'S PERSPECTIVE, 
THAT'S NOT CLOSED UNTIL THE 
STREET LIGHT IS FIXED.
311 DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD.
THERE WAS A GAP IN 
UNDERSTANDING.
THEY CLOSE THE TICKET AND CLOSE 
WITH THE MD SO WE HAVE A 
STATUSES OF THE LIGHT.
FOR PNM OWNED LIGHTS WE SEND 
THEM A NOTICE AND WORK WITH THEM
TO GET A FEEDBACK SYSTEM AND 
TIME LIMIT THAT THEY HAVE TO 
REPLACE THE LIGHT IF IT'S NOT 
SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO KNOCK 
DOWN.
WE HAD SIMILAR THINGS WITH 
SYSTEMS IN CITY DEPARTMENTS.
WE HAVE WORK TICKET SYSTEMS LIKE
CAMILLIAN AND POSSE AND THE 
PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THOSE WERE BEING CLOSED ONCE 
THEY WERE HANDED TO ANOTHER 
DEPARTMENT.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THEY 
CREATEDED INTERFACES, AND ONE OF
THE GREAT MOVES THE COUNSEL DID 
WAS MOVE 311 TO DTI BECAUSE IT'S
A TECHNOLOGICAL OPERATION.
OVER THE PAST YEARS WE'RE 
CRATING THOSE INTERFACE.
AND THEN, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO 
USE DATA TO DRIVE HOW WE 
ACTUALLY FIX THESE PROBLEMS.
MISSED TRASH PICK UPS IS A 
PROBLEM.
WE SAW THE HOMELESS CAMPS COMING
THROUGH AND HAVE HIRED TWO 
OUTREACH FOLKS THAT DO THE 
HOMELESS CAMP OUTREACH TO 
CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES AND 
HAVE THEM MOVE ON WHEN THEY'RE 
IN A PLACE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED 
TO BE.
AND ABANDONENED VEHICLES WAS 
ANOTHER ONE.
THERE WERE ABANDONED VEHICLES 
FROM 2016.
THESE VEHICLES ARE GONE AND 
SENDING ANYONE TO CHECK ON THEM 
DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
WE DID A MASS CLOSURE OF THE OLD
ONES THAT SAID IF YOU HAVE THAT 
PROBLEM CALL BACK.
AND THEY'VE BEEN PULLING 
RESOURCES FROM ALL KINDS OF 
DEPARTMENTS.
THEY'VE BEEN DRIVING OUT TO 
CHECK ON THE TICKETS.
SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID I CALLED 
AND IT WORKED AND THE CAR IS 
GONE.
THAT WAS GOOD.
THE OTHER BIG ISSUE WE HAD HAST 
YEAR WAS FOURTH OF JULY, THAT 
WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION WHERE THE
CALL CENTER WASN'T OPEN.
YOU COULD REPORT FIREWORKS 
THROUGH THE APP.
BUT IT WAS GOING TO 242-FIRE AND
THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO ANSWER
THE PHONE.
WE'LL FIX THAT.
THAT'S AN EASY FIX WE'LL MAKE 
SURE EVERYONE'S OPEN THIS YEAR.
I'VE GOT A LOT MORE DETAILS IF 
ANYBODY'S INTERESTED.
I WANT TO TOUCH ON STAFFING.
WE'VE HAD THE BUDGET HEARING 
TODAY.
SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS.
THERE'S A REQUEST FOR SOME 
ADDITIONAL STAFFING FOR 311 IT'S
A MODEST REQUEST BECAUSE THEY 
WANT TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT 
WE CAN FILL.
TO MAKE THE CALL CENTER OPEN 
24-7 WOULD BE A HALF MILLION 
DOLLAR PROPOSITION.
WE DON'T THINK THE DEMAND EXISTS
FOR THAT.
THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE DATA AND 
THEY'VE PROPOSED ANOTHER 
SCHEDULE OF WHEN THEY NEED 
ADDITIONAL STAFF.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE CONTEXT 
OF BUDGET.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD LIKE TO
ENCOURAGE ANY COUNCILOR, IF THEY
HAVE THE TIME, TO GO AND TOUR 
THE FACILITY BECAUSE I ACTUALLY 
REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS STARTED 
BACK IN EARLY 2000s.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.
THE TRAINING, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN 
TRAINING RIGHT IN THE FACILITY.
AND PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THE 
TRAINING, IT'S GONE TO A NEW 
LEVEL.
AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE 
EXPRESS TO THE PUBLIC THAT 
YOU'RE FILLING THOSE VACANCIES.
AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT 
POSSIBLY 24-HOUR SERVICE AND 
WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENS.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE DO 
NOT WANT ANOTHER SNAFU LIKE WE 
HAD JULY 4th.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, OF ALL THE 
THINGS WE NEED TO GET FIXED THIS
WAS ON TOP OF THE HAVE TO DO IT 
NOW.
I'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THIS.
IN THE LIST OF THINGS YOU'VE 
DONE TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING,
THE NEW PROTOCOL FOR SIDE WALK 
REQUEST IS A REALLY GREAT ONE, 
FIGURING OUTLETS AND WORKING 
WITH THE DEPARTMENT ON HOW TO 
GET THAT WORK BETTER.
WE WORK ACCIDENTLY SENDING TRASH
AND LITTER COMPLAINTS TO FOLKS 
WHO REPORTED ILLEGAL DUMPING IN 
THE ALLEY, NOW WE HAVE A NEW 
QUESTION TO ASK MORE.
IT'S ROUTING IT TO THE RIGHT 
DEPARTMENT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY WORKING 
WELL.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT AND SEE 
THAT BUDGET REQUEST.
I'D LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THANKS FOR LOOKING AT THOSE 
ISSUES.
OTHER QUESTIONS?
IF I CAN TAKE THE PRIVILEGE, MS.
NAIRE, AND OUR MANAGER OF ANIMAL
WELL FAR.
I WANT SAY THANKS TO ONE OF THE 
EMPLOYEES DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM AN OLD 
FRIEND.
SHE SAID FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS 
SHE WORKED WITH ANIMAL CONTROL 
OFFICER BELTS BECAUSE, I SEE LEE
ONNODDING, SHE BECAME CONCERNED 
ABOUT SOME STRAY DOGS, THEY 
TRACKED DOWN WHERE THEY 
BELONGED.
IT WAS NOT ONE OF THE BEST 
PLACES.
SO THE OFFICER WENT OUT OF THE 
WAY TO IDENTIFY RESOURCES THAT 
GOT HELP HEATERS AND A BED AND A
VOLUNTEER TO HELP CLEAN THEIR 
YARD SO THE DOGS HAVE A BETTER 
PLACE TO BE.
THE NEIGHBOR REACHED OUT AND 
WANTED US TO THANK THEM.
WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE FILE.
I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE 
STAFF.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
OTHER QUESTIONS AND OTHER 
COMMENT?
HEARING NONE.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL 
OF THE FEBRUARY 3 JOURNAL.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT CARRIES.
WE'RE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS AND 
INTRODUCTIONS.
ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF 
INTRODUCTION.
I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE 
SUSUSPENDED TO PLACE R-21 AND 
MOVE IT TO THE MARCH SECOND FOR 
FINAL ACTION.
IT ESTABLISHES THE BUDGET 
PRIORITIES FOR THE 2021 CITY 
BUDGET.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE THE 
APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF 
INTRODUCTION.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL IN FAVOR SAY 
AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES 
UNANIMOUSLY.
REPORTS OF COMMUNITIES.
COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND 
GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE 
MET ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 10, 2020 
AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS.
IN THE MATTER OF EC-5, AND OC1, 
THAT BE NOTED.
IN THE MATTER OF R-4 IT BE 
WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION.
AND IN THE MATTER OF EC4 AND 
EC20 BE APPROVED.
IN THE MATTER OF EC18 AND BE 
APPROVED AND BE ACTED ON IN THE 
MEETING ON WHICH IT IS REPORTED.
IN THE MATTER OF R214, R1, AND 
R5 DUE PASS.
R154 AND R6, WITHDRAWN.
R3, R11, R12, DUE PASS AND BE 
ACTED IN THE MEETING WHICH 
THEY'RE REPORTED.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE 
COMMITTEE REPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'RE ON TO DEFERRALS AND 
WITHDRAWALS.
COUNCILOR PEÑA.
>>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE R-178 AMENDING 
THE ADOPTED CAPITAL 
IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM BY 
SUPPLEMENTING THE OPEN SPACE 
ACQUISITION.
I MOVE DEFERRAL.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL IN FAVOR SAY 
AYE. OPPOSED? 
>>COUN. PEÑA: COMMITTEE SUB-R189
AMENDING THE COMPOSITION OF 
BOARD OF HOUSING XHR FOR THE 
ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL MARCH 16.
>>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A 
SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS?
HEARING NONE, WE'RE ON TO THE 
CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT 
AGENDA?
FOR INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S 
AGENDA BEING APPOINTED TO THE 
BOARD OF COMMITTEE PLEASE STAND 
UP IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE.
WE HAVE A FEW WITH US.
THANK YOU ALL WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SERVICE AND TIME.
[ APPLAUSE ].
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE 
CONSENT AGENDA.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S A MOTION 
AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, COUNCILORS.
WE'RE MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC 
COMMENT.
TONIGHT THERE'S A TWO-MINUTE 
TIME LIMIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE LIGHT WILL BE GREEN FOR THE 
FIRST MINUTE AND A HALF AND THE 
LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW AND THE 
BELL WILL RING INDICATING YOU 
HAVE 30 SECONDS TO WRAP UP 
COMMENTS. AT TWO MINUTES THE 
LIGHTS WILL TURN RED INDICATING 
YOUR TIME IS UP.
FIRST UP IS DON SCHRADER.
WHEN WE CALL YOUR NAME COME DOWN
AND TAKE ONE OF THE SEATS IN THE
FRONT.
WE'LL BE READY FOR YOU.
WELCOME.
>> MOST MOVIES MADE IN NEW 
MEXICO ARE CRAP.
GLAMOURIZING, ROBBERY, RAPE, 
BOOZE OR WAR.
MOST MOVIES IN NEW MEXICO ARE 
NOTHING TO CELEBRATE.
REGARDLESS HOW MANY JOBS AND 
DOLLARS.
A STUPID WASTE OF TIME, TALENT 
AND MONEY.
LIKE USING FANCY CHINA DISHES TO
SERVE ROTTEN GARBAGE.
NOTHING UPLIFTING, NOTHING 
INSPIRING, NOTHING LIFE 
CHANGING.
SADLY, MOST ACTORS WILL TAKE THE
PART IF THE PAY IS HIGH ENOUGH 
HARDLESS HOW VIOLENT OR SHALLOW 
THE MOVIE IS.
IF WE DAMN VIOLENCE ON OUR 
STREETS, WHY WATCH MOVIE 
VIOLENCE FOR ENTERTAINMENT?
IMAGINE IF BREAKING BAD HAD BEEN
BREAK FREE.
ABOUT METH USERS AND DEALERS 
BREAKING FREE FROM METH.
WOULD I PLANT POISON PLANTS IN 
MY FOOD GARDEN?
WHY PLANT POISON IN THE GARDEN 
OF MY MIND?
WHY SHOULD ACTORS BE PAID MORE 
MONEY THAN FARM WORKERS IN THE 
HOT SUN HARVESTING FRUIT AND 
VEGETABLES FOR US TO EAT?
DO ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE 
THE CONSCIENCE AND COURAGE TO 
SAY ALL OF THIS PUBLICLY?
>>COUN. DAVIS: NEXT UP TAD -- 
>> THANK YOU WHAT I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IS TONIGHT IS ABOUT 
LAWYERS AND JUDGES, HOW CORRUPT 
THEY ARE IN ALBUQUERQUE METRO 
AREA.
WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOWS THAT
WE HAVE IN ALBUQUERQUE, THE 
ALBUQUERQUE BAR ASSOCIATION?
NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
OF COURSE, WHAT KIND OF 
MEMBERSHIP IN OUR ASSOCIATION IS
IT?
OF COURSE IT'S PRIVATE.
LAWYERS AND JUDGES.
THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE 
ALBUQUERQUE BAR ASSOCIATION.
NOW, HOW MANY?
LET'S SAY HOW MANY LAWYERS 
PRACTICE CIVIL LAW AND HOW MANY 
CRIMINAL.
MOST OF THEM ARE HIRED CRIMINAL 
DEFENSE LAWYER OF COURSE.
HOW EASY IS IT TO GET CIVIL 
RIGHTS LAWYER?
HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE.
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE, THESE 
LAWYERS.
THEY CORRUPT THE JUDGES, THEY 
CORRUPT THE CITY HALL.
THEY DO BUSINESS EVERYWHERE.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM
NUMBER FOR OUR LEXES AND TWO 
HANDGUNS.
THE SERIAL NUMBERS I'VE GIVEN 
AND NOW RECORDED.
HAVING FILED SEVERAL POLICE 
REPORTS IN AN EFFORT TO 
POTENTIALLY RECOVER SOMETHING OF
MY STOLEN PROPERTY.
THEY CONFINED THE FRONTLINE 
COPS.
IT'S RUN LIKE THE MILITARY, FROM
DOING WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST.
TODAY, WE HAVE THE DEMOCRATIC 
PARTY CIRCUS, WE ARE NOT DEALING
WITH REALITY AND WHAT WE'RE 
FACING AS A NATION.
WE HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO MOVE 
AGAINST TREACHERY AND DEPRAVETY 
IN HIGH PLACES.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, JUAN 
IS NEXT.
FOLLOWED FRANCESCA AND JOSH.
>> HELLO EVERYONE.
I DON'T COME UP HERE THAT OFTEN.
GOOD EVENING, I ACTUALLY AM HERE
TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 
IF THERE'S FUNDING GOING ON TO 
HIRE A POSITION AND IT'S NOT 
HIRED WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW OFTEN
CAN IT ROLL OVER IN THE BUDGET 
BEFORE IT GETS POSTED.
THERE ARE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A 
JOB.
IF THE POSITION IS JUST BEING 
ROLLED OVER IN THE BUDGET AND 
ROLLED OVER BUT NOT ADVERTISED 
AND NO ONE BID ON IT, AND THIS 
IS A DIVISION LEVEL POSITION AND
THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS.
HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY EXPECT 
THAT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A 
DIVISION MANAGER IN PLACE THAT 
CAN RUN WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO
RUN IF IT'S NOT POSTED.
-- WHAT DO YOU WITH THAT 
FUNDING?
WHY IS IT KEPT TRAPPED IN THAT 
BUDGET.
WE JUST HEARD 311 NEEDED 
STAFFING.
IF THAT FUNDING IS HELD BACK AND
NOT RELEASED BECAUSE HOWEVER 
THEY'RE DOING WITH THAT 
POSITION.
RELEASE SOME OF IT.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A MECHANISM 
WITHIN THE SYSTEM HERE TO FREE 
THOSE FUNDS TO GIVE THEM TO 
WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.
ESPECIALLY THAT BUDGET HAS NOT 
BEEN FILLED.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE 
SENSE TO DO THAT TO THE 
COMMUNITY WHEN WE CAN HAVE 
SOMEONE HIRED AT A LEADERSHIP 
POSITION AND MAKE DIVISION 
FUNCTION BETTER AND OPERATE 
BETTER.
THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.
I DON'T DO THIS OFTEN.
I MAY NOT BE AS POLISHED, BUT I 
HAVE THAT CONCERN.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
[READING SPEAKER NAMES ].
>>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK THAT 
QUESTION THAT THIS GENTLEMEN 
JUST RAISED SHOULD EXPECT A 
RESPONSE.
I WONDER IF MS. NAIRE OR SOMEONE
CAN CLARIFY THAT?
>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT POSITIONS 
THE SPEAKER WAS REFERRING TO 
SPECIFICALLY.
BUT AS YOU'RE AWARE, WHEN MONEY 
IS ALLOCATED TO THE PERSONNEL 
LINE OF THE BUDGET, IF IT'S NOT 
SPENT IT REVERTS TO WHATEVER IT 
CAME FROM TO BE REALLOCATED OR 
REAPPROPRIATED BY THIS COUNSEL.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
NEXT UP, JOSH PRICE.
WELCOME.
>> PRESIDENT DAVIS, THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH.
I REPRESENT LOBO LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE'RE NEAR CARLISLE AND MENAUL.
WE HAVE ABOUT 300 CHILDREN EVERY
YEAR.
THEIR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS 
AND AUNTS AND UNCLES THAT TAKE 
PART IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WAS 
TOLD THAT OUR LEASES WOULD BE 
HELD TODAY.
BUT I'M BEING TOLD THEY'RE HELD 
BY PARKS AND RECREATION.
I WAS INFORMED THAT THE CAPITAL 
OUTLAY FUNDING IS BEING WITHHELD
UNTIL OUR LEASE AGREEMENTS ARE 
EXECUTED.
WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE 
SHOVEL READY AND COULD BE 
COMPLETED BEFORE APRIL 4.
THREE YEARS WHEN I TOOK OVER AS 
PRESIDENT WE'RE ABOUT 50 YEARS 
IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
WE'RE FIGHTING HARD TO REALLY 
COUNTER ACT THAT AND GIVE OUR 
KIDS AT LOBO LITTLE LEAGUE THE 
RIGHT KIND OF FACILITY THEY 
DESERVE.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS 
HOPEFULLY, WHEN YOU GET TO SEE 
OUR LEASES, IF IT CAN BE PUSHED 
FORWARD THROUGH THE COUNSEL.
I'M ACTUALLY ASKING IF THERE'S 
ANY WAY THEY CAN HELP US GET OUR
CAPITAL FUNDING RELEASED SO WE 
CAN PULL THE TRIGGER ON SOME OF 
THE PROJECTS.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY 
FROM STAFF WORK WITH HIM TO 
FIGURE OUT THE STATUS?
>> LET'S YOU AND I HAVE THE 
CONVERSATION.
IT IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF 
THE MAYOR TO GET THE LITTLE 
LEAGUE LEASES REDONE AND 
RE-ESTABLISHED AND GET THE 
FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR 
THE LITTLE LEAGUE PROJECTS OUT 
OF THE DOOR.
I WILL VISIT WITH THEM AND GET 
THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR 
COMING DOWN AND TALKING WITH US 
TO THIS EVENING.
I'VE BEEN SHARED ON THAT E-MAIL 
CHAINS THAT EVERYBODY HAD TO GO 
THROUGH TO GET AS FAR AS WE HAVE
WITH THE CONTRACT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN 
GETTING THAT CONTRACT HANDLED.
I'M SORRY THAT IT'S TAKING SO 
LONG.
I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF LOBO 
LITTLE LEAGUE AND I'VE SEEN A 
LOT OF THE STUFF YOU'VE DONE 
THERE YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK 
ON TOGETHER.
I WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE BUT 
WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT PARKS 
HELP AND WITHOUT THIS COMPLETED 
SIGNED OFF AND APPROVED RECEIPT 
OF THE LEASE.
I'M SURE THAT MR. RAEL CAN HELP 
WITH THAT.
>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR HARRIS.
>>COUN. HARRIS: THERE'S SOMEBODY
IN THE OFFICE BUILDING WHERE I 
WORK WHO IS IN THE MANAGEMENT OF
THE REGIONAL LITTLE LEAGUE 
ASSOCIATION AND I HEAR FROM HER 
MONTHLY OR SOMETHING TALKING 
ABOUT THE LEASES AND THEY HAVE 
BEEN IN LIMBO FOR A WHILE.
MAYBE COME TO THE NEXT MEETING 
AND CREATE A DEADLINE FOR ALL OF
US THAT PUTS THIS AT THE TOP OF 
THE IN-BASKET.
>> I WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO
HAVE MR. SIMON VISIT WITH YOU 
ABOUT THIS.
WE HAVE OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 
OFFICIAL THAT SAID ONE OF THE 
ISSUES WE'RE HAVING IS THAT THE 
STATE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IS 
REQUIRING THE CONTRACTS BE 
FINALIZED BEFORE THEY RELEASE 
THE FUNDS TO THE CITY FOR 
DISBURSEMENT.
ALL OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE 
CONTRACTS ARE GETTING READY TO 
BE INTRODUCED THE COUNSEL.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET THOSE TO YOU
IN THE NEXT MEETING.
I WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A 
CONVERSATION WITH THE 
INDIVIDUALS AND MAKE SURE WE GET
A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE'LL ASK THE 
CLERK THAT WE GET THOSE SIGNED 
FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION.
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN 
IN COMMUNICATION WITH EAST DALE 
LITTLE LEAGUE, AND I APPRECIATE 
IF I CAN BE A PART OF THAT 
MEETING AS WELL.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO ADD BECAUSE WE'RE 
COMING UP ON SPRING, THE SEASON 
WILL START SOON.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN AT A 
STANDSTILL FOR A LONG TIME NOW.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE ONE 
OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT LOBO 
LITTLE LEAGUE IS THEY'RE THE 
ONLY TEAM THAT OFFERS THE -- I 
CAN'T REMEMBER THE -- THE 
CHALLENGER.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK OVER 
THERE IN THE FIELDS TO MAKE THAT
MORE ACCOMMODATING.
AND REALLY HATE TO SEE THIS -- 
THE WORK OVER THERE NOT 
CONTINUE.
THANK YOU, MR. RAEL FOR HELPING 
WITH IS
>>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK WE'LL GET
THAT WORKED OUT FOR YOU.
NEXT UP, MS. CATHERINE HILL.
>> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR 
HAVING ME.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE DOES TO 
MAKE THIS CITY BETTER.
I'M THE FOUNDER OF VETERAN'S 
DAUGHTERS OFFENSE UNITED STATES.
AND I'M A FOUNDER OF THE RAIL 
YARD MARKET.
I WANTED TO MAKE SOME 
SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED 
AN INTEREST IN HAVING AN AMPA 
THEATER AT THE RAIL YARDS.
I HAVE NO IDEA OF ACREAGE AND 
ALL THOSE THINGS.
ABOUT MAYBE AT THE CURB OF 777 
SOUTHWEST.
WE CAN HAVE A KIVA STYLE AND A 
SLIGHTLY UNDER GROUND THEATER.
ALONG WITH THAT, THE POSSIBILITY
OF MOVING THE POWWOW TO THAT.
JUST SOME IDEAS.
ONE OTHER THING, IT WOULD HELP 
TIE IN THE RAIL RUNNER.
SO SOME OF THE FOLKS CAN COME ON
THE RAIL RUNNER.
ANOTHER SUGGESTION THAT'S 
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IS THE 
POSSIBILITY OF HAVING PARK AND 
RIDE AT THE RAIL YARDS.
TRAYING TO HAVE A KIVA STYLE 
UNDER GROUND OR HALF AND HALF 
TYPE OF THEATER WOULD BE A BIG 
PROJECT.
IT WOULD BRING A LOT OF MONEY IN
FOR THE CITY.
AND SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING 
MY SUGGESTION.
>>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR 
COMING DOWN.
JUST SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE A RAIL 
YARDS ADVISORY BOARD THAT IS 
MADE UP OF MYSELF, THE SENATORS 
AND REPRESENTATIVES THAT 
REPRESENT THE GENERAL AREA 
AROUND THE RAIL YARDS AND THE 
ADMINISTRATION.
WE MEET THREE TIMES A YEAR, 
THERE SHOULD BE A MEETING PRETTY
SOON, PROBABLY IN MARCH.
THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME.
YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF ALL OF 
THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND
THE MASTERPLAN AND HOW WE'RE 
TRYING TO ALSO MAKE SURE WE 
REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
ALSO THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD 
ASSOCIATION AND SOUTH BROADWAY 
ASSOCIATIONS ARE MEMBERS OF THAT
BOARD.
>> ANDREW LLOYD WEBER MIGHT BE 
ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.
THEY HELP KEEP THE ARTS IN 
SCHOOLS ALSO.
THANK YOU.
>>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MS. 
HILL.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'RE MOVING TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU'RE UP.
>>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU MR. 
PRESIDENT.
THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY 
COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY 
FEBRUARY 25 AT 12 NOON IN THE 
COUNSEL COMMITTEE ROOM IN THE 
NINTH FLOOR.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S A 
BERNALILLO COUNTY MEETING AT 
THURSDAY AT 5 IN THESE CHAMBERS.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS?
WE'RE MOVING TO FINAL ACTION.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
GOING TO MOVE O-88, AMENDING THE
CITY'S PURCHASING ORDINANCE 
5-531 RELATING TO EQUITY AND 
REQUIREMENT FOR THE GENDER PAY 
ENFORCEMENT.
I MOVE DUE PASS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND A DUE PASS.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS IT OKAY IF WE MOVE TO PUBLIC 
COMMENT.
AS A REMINDER YOU HAVE TWO 
MINUTE AND SAME RULES APPLY.
>> THANK YOU.
NOBODY GAVE ME SOMETHING FOR 
NOTHING AND I DON'T EXPECT IT.
NOW, HERE IS EQUALITY.
I CAN SEE HERE SUCH RACIST AND 
SEXIST EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT 
HERE.
ESPECIALLY THIS COUNSEL.
GIBSON, YES, EQUALITY.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EQUALITY.
BUT PREFERENCE THAT IS BUGGING 
ME.
WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS 
SANCTUARY CITY GOVERNMENT?
THAT'S MY QUESTION.
WHEN IT STOPS, NOW I BELIEVE 
THAT IS ENOUGH.
I'LL SAVE MY TALKING FOR NEXT 
ISSUE.
THANK YOU. 
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
WELCOME BACK.
>> THIS ORDINANCE AND 
PROPOSITION HERE IS DEMONSTRUIVE
OF THE FUTILITY OF PASSING SUCH 
ORDINANCES WHEN WE DO NOTHING TO
CORRECT THE FACT THAT WE'RE A 
COLONY OF THE INTERNATIONAL 
BANKS AND CARTEL.
WE NO LONGER CONTROL THE WEALTH 
OF THIS NATION.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT PAY EQUITY.
WE'LL NEVER RESOLVE THESE ISSUES
WITH THESE TYPE OF PROPOSELES.
WE MUST ADDRESS THE FACT WE HAVE
AN UNLAWFUL BANKING SYSTEM THAT 
WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF.
IN FACT, THE WEALTH OF THIS 
NATION HAS BEEN CONFISCATED BY 
ININTERNATIONALISTS.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE SAVING
IT FOR RETIREMENT, AND THEY CAN 
WIPE OUT THE SPENDING POWER OF 
IT WITH A HIT ON THE SCREEN OF 
THE COMPUTER.
WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH WEALTH.
WE'RE DEALING WITH CREDIT WHEN 
WE HAVE A FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE 
OR A BANK ACCOUNT.
IF WE DON'T GET BACK TO 
DEMANDING THAT WE ARE PAID IN 
SUBSTANCE FOR OUR LABOR WE WILL 
ALSO FIND OVERS ON A TREADMILL 
AND THE POPULATION OF HOMELESS 
WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.
YOU CAN PUT THESE CAPITAL 
PROJECTS UP AND HOUSE SOME 
HOMELESS PEOPLE LIKE DOGS IN A 
CAGE HIKE THE HUMANE SOCIETY 
DOES.
BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT 
THAT WE'RE BEING -- WE MUST 
CORRECT THE BANKING NETWORK AND 
TAKE CONTROL OF OUR OWN WEALTH.
THAT WILL TAKE AN ARMED 
REBELLION.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GAINED 
CONTROL OF OUR WEALTH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>>COUN. DAVIS: HEARING NONE.
WE'RE BACK ON TO THE BILL.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANY DEBATE?
COMMENTS FROM THE 
ADMINISTRATION.
SEEING NONE.
COUNCILOR GIBSON, THANK YOU.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LONGER
THAN I'VE BEEN ON THE CITY 
COUNCIL.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ABOUT 
THIS I'LL GO AHEAD AND -- I URGE
YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.
THANK YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: O-88 HAVING BEEN 
MOVED AND SECONDED, ALL IN FAVOR
SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED.
THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR GIBSON TO PRESENT 
R-13.
>>COUN. GIBSON: R-13 IS 
AUTHORIZING THE GIVING OF 
NOTICES FOR THE BIDS OF THE CITY
OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND 
CONSISTING OF $67 MILLION IN 
GENERAL PURPOSE FUNDS.
STORM SEWER BONDS, SERIES 2020B,
AND $57 MILLION REFUNDING BONDS.
2020D, THAT WAS THE END OF THE 
SENTENCE.
I MOVE A DUE PASS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND SECOND.
COUNCILOR GIBSON I BELIEVE YOU 
HAVE A FLOOR SUBFOR R-13. 
>>COUN. GIBSON: YES, THANK YOU 
FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT WB.
I MOVE THE FLOOR SUBOF R-2013.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL IN FAVOR SAY 
AYE. OPPOSED? THAT ITEM CARRIES 
UNANIMOUSLY.
BACK TO COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THIS IS A 
COMPANION BILL FOR THE PREVIOUS 
RESOLUTION.
THIS IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE
AND SALE OF $85,540,000.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE'RE STILL ON 
ITEM 13, WHICH IS ITEM B.
WE'RE BACK ON YOUR BILL AS 
SUBSTITUTED.
ANY QUESTIONS OR ITEMS?
WE COMMENT FROM THE 
ADMINISTRATION?
SEEING NONE.
COUNCILOR GIBSON TO CLOSE.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I URGE YOUR 
SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN 
FAVOR SAY YES.
ANY OPPOSITION?
HEARING NONE, THAT CARRIES 
UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
THIS IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE
AND SALE OF $85 MILLION TO THE 
CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE GENERAL 
OBLIGATION BONDS.
AND SERIES A, STORM SEWER BONDS 
SERIES 2020B, AND $6 MILLION 
SHORT-TERM BOND SERIES 2020C, 
AUTHORIZED AT AN ELECTION HELD 
ON NOVEMBER 5, 2019.
I MOVE A DUE PASS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND A SECOND.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A FLOOR SUB.
>>COUN. GIBSON: MR. PRESIDENT, I
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR 
SUB-0-20-1.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
BACK TO COUNCILOR GIBSON.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT NOW OR
PRESENT?
WE HAVE ONE PERSON FOR PUBLIC 
COMMENT.
MS. AMATO.
>> I RECALL, WHAT WAS HIS NAME, 
THE MAN THAT WAS CHAIR OF THE 
FEDERAL RESERVE FOR A WHILE, BUT
IN THE 1960s HE PUBLISHED THREE 
ESSAYS.
ANYWAY, THOSE SUMMARIES OF 
FINANCIAL PRINCIPLES ARE 
CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING THAT'S 
TAUGHT IN THE UNIVERSITIES AND 
ECONOMICS AND FINANCE CLASSES.
THESE BOND PROGRAMS ARE OBSCURE 
WORKINGS.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS 
PANEL OR IN THIS ROOMS 
UNDERSTANDS HOW THEY WORK.
IT'S A CONFISCATION OF WEALTH, 
METHOD AND HOW YOU EXPLAIN HOW 
THAT HAPPENS IS FOR THE 
WELL-SCHOOLED IN TERMINOLOGY.
ISSUING THESE BONDS ACTUALLY 
CAUSES SOME KIND OF TRANSFERENCE
OF WEALTH TO THE FINANCEERS.
WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING PROJECTS 
RELATING TO PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR 
EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T REALLY 
ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THEY CAN PUT A LABEL ON IT.
BUT PUBLIC SAFETY IS INSURED BY 
ACTIVE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND 
SOCIAL ORDER.
OUR SOCIAL ORDER HAS BEEN 
ESSENTIALLY FRACTURED AND 
DESTROYED.
WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONNECTION 
WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WE'RE TAUGHT TO BOW AT THE FEET 
OF AUTHORITY.
AND TO OBEY THE EXPERTS.
NOT TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER OR 
THE ELDERS, WE SEGREGATE THEM IN
VARIOUS SENIOR CITIZEN 
INSTITUTIONS.
WE DON'T CARE TO HEAR WHAT THE 
ELDERS HAVE TO SAY.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>>COUN. DAVIS: THAT CONCLUDES 
PUBLIC COMMENT.
COUNCILOR GIBSON TO CLOSE.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I URGE YOUR 
SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THAT BEING THE 
FINAL DEBATE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY 
AYE. OPPOSED? THAT ITEM CARRIES 
UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR BORREGO TO PRESENT 
R-213.
>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
THIS IS ESTABLISHING A PROCESS 
TO GATHER AND INCLUDE 
NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT IN THE 
DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THROUGH
COMMUNITY MEETINGS, I DO HAVE A 
FLOOR SUBSTITUTE.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN YOUR 
PACKET.
CAN WE MOVE THE BILL FIRST?
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND A SECOND FOR R-213.
AND COUNCILOR BORREGO TO PRESENT
THE SUBSTITUTE.
IS IT A SUBSTITUTE OR AMENDMENT?
>>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK I NEED 
TO READ THE ENTIRE AMENDMENT.
>> COUNCILOR BORREGO, YOU 
ACTUALLY HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT 
AND WE WILL NEED TO READ IT INTO
THE RECORD.
I CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I CAN DO IT.
NUMBER ONE, ON PAGE ONE, LINE 
FOUR, STRIKE THE TERM THROUGH 
COMMUNITY MEETINGS, NUMBER TWO 
ON PAGE TWO LINES THREE THROUGH 
15 AMEND AS FOLLOWS, SECTION ONE
THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS
FOR THE UPCOMING 2021 CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM SHALL 
INCLUDE SCHEDULED MEETING IN 
EACH COUNSEL DISTRICT OR THE 
ADMINISTRATION OF COMMUNITY 
SURVEYED PER THE COUNSEL OF 
T
THAT.
THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE OF 
NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION AND 
DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DIVISION
WILL DEVELOP AND ADMINISTER THE 
MEETING THROUGH A COLLABORATIVE 
EFFORT AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE 
FOR SCHEDULING DEVELOPMENT OF 
OUTREACH MATERIAL AND COLLECTION
AND SUMMARIATION OF 
INFORMATION.
THIS WILL BE SUMMARIZED AND 
PROVIDED TO THE CAPITAL 
IMPROVEMENT STAFF COMMITTEE IN 
THE TO INFORM THE CIP 
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THE STRIKE MEETINGS PROCESS 
SHALL BE STRIKE HELD DURING THE 
SPRING OF COMPLETED BY 2020 IN 
ORDER FOR TIMELY SUBMISSION 
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE IT 
CONVENES IN JUNE 2020.
AND THE EXPLANATION IS THIS 
AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW THE 
COUNCILORS IN EACH DISTRICT TO 
DETERMINE WHETHER TO GATHER 
INFORMATION FROM HIS OR HER 
CONSWITCH WOULDN'TS ON CAPITAL 
PRIORITIES THROUGH SCHEDULED 
COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR A SURVEY 
PROCESS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR BORREGO.
I'M GOING TO CALL THAT FLOOR 
AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, IF WE HAVE
A SECOND.
AND I HEARD A SECOND.
AND COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS AN 
AMENDMENT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY, I BELIEVE THESE
TWO AMENDMENTS WOULD BE 
COMPETING AND COULDN'T EXIST 
TOGETHER.
WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE TWO SO THE
COUNSEL CAN HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT
WE'RE DOING HERE?
>> YES, COUNCILOR BORREGO'S 
AMENDMENT TO THE BILL WOULD 
ALLOW EACH OF YOU TO DECIDE 
WHETHER TO HOLD COMMUNITY 
MEETINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT OR 
ADMINISTER SURVEY FOR THE 
PROCESS OF COLLECTING CIP 
PRIORITY INFORMATION FROM YOUR 
CONSTITUENTS.
COUNCILOR BASSAN'S AMENDMENT, 
WHICH SHE WILL MOVE IF SHE 
INTENDS TO WOULD ACTUALLY ONLY 
ALLOW FOR A SURVEY PROCESS TO BE
ADMINISTERED INSTEAD OF HAVING 
COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE 
DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
>>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY.
I HAVE COUNCILOR HARRIS, AND 
COUNCILOR BENTON ON QUESTIONS.
COUNCILOR BASSAN, DO YOU WANT TO
PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT?
I WANT TO GET A PROCEDURE HERE 
SINCE WE HAVE COMPETING 
AMENDMENTS.
DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOURS?
>>COUN. BASSAN: I'M STILL TRYING
TO ASSESS WHAT THE DIFFERENCES 
ARE AND HOW THEY IMPACT IT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE'LL GO TO 
COUNCILOR QUESTIONS.
>>COUN. HARRIS: I WAS GOING TO 
SAY WE COMPETE THE AMENDMENTS 
AND WE DEBATE THEM BOTH BEFORE 
TAKING A VOTE.
IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT THE 
ONLY DIFFERENCE, AND MAYBE THE 
DIRECTOR CAN CLARIFY THAT, THAT 
COUNCILOR BORREGO'S AMENDMENT 
WOULD GIVE THE OPTION OF A 
SURVEY OR MEETINGS, WHEREAS 
COUNCILOR BASSAN'S WOULD ALLOW 
SURVEYS ONLY.
>>COUN. BENTON: I DIDN'T HEAR 
QUITE THE END.
>>COUN. HARRIS: COUNCILOR 
BASSAN'S ONLY ALLOWS SURVEYS.
>>COUN. BENTON: I UNDERSTAND 
WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
I THOUGHT AT LEAST THE LANGUAGE 
IN COUNCILOR BORREGO'S BILL AND 
AMENDMENT IMPLIES THAT IT'S 
REQUIRED THAT WE DO ONE OR THE 
OTHER.
>> YES, THAT'S TRUE.
EITHER COUNCILOR BORREGO'S 
AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE EITHER 
OR.
>>COUN. BENTON: AND COUNCILOR 
BASSAN'S AMENDMENT IS OPTIONAL 
OR REQUIRED?
>> IT WOULD REQUIRE A SURVEY 
PROCESS AS IT IS WRITTEN.
>>COUN. BENTON: OKAY.
I THINK PROCEDURE -- IT'S UP TO 
THE PRESIDENT, THE AMENDMENTS ON
THE TABLE TO THE EXTENT THAT 
THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAT WE
SHOULD HEAR FROM COUNCILOR 
BASSAN.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BOTH
OF THESE REQUIRE SOME ACTION BE 
TAKEN.
I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU FOR 
THAT CLARIFICATION.
I AGREE, I WANT TO GO TO 
COUNCILOR BASSAN.
THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR IS 
AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE WHICH IS 
COUNCILOR BORREGO'S WHICH CALLS 
FOR AN OPTION OF EITHER.
COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE'LL GIVE YOU
THE FLOOR TO MAKE THE CASE FOR 
OR AGAINST COUNCILOR BORREGO'S 
AMENDMENT AND FOR OR AGAINST 
YOURS.
>>COUN. BASSAN: THEY'RE VERY, 
VERY SIMILAR.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
WHAT I AM QUESTIONING IS REALLY 
IF THERE'S SOME COUNCILORS THAT 
END UP WANTING TO HAVE MEETINGS 
INSTEAD OF OFFER SURVEYS I FEEL 
LIKE THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR 
FORRA LOT OF CONSTITUENT 
DIFFICULTIES IF CERTAIN DECIDE 
SURVEYS.
THE REASON FOR SURVEYS IS WE CAN
REACH A GREATER GROUP OF PEOPLE 
AND IT CAN BE COST EFFECTIVE 
WHILE HAVING THE ABILITY TO 
DISTRIBUTE WITH PAPER OR 
DIGITALLY AND BE ABLE TO 
EVALUATE THAT SO WE CAN GET MORE
INPUT.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WE'RE 
BASICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING.
I THINK THE AMENDMENT I PUT 
FORWARD ALLOWS YOU TO DO EITHER 
ONE.
THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE 
COUNCILOR.
I THINK WE'RE ACHIEVE THE SAME 
END AND THE MEAN TO THE SAME 
END.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT 
YOU WITHDRAW AND NOT PUSH YOURS 
FORWARD.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THE ONLY ON THE 
FLOOR IS YOURS.
I WANT TO ASK A POINT OF 
CLARIFICATION.
UNDER THE PROVISION OF -- I'M 
SORRY OF THE PROPOSAL BY 
COUNCILOR BASSAN, A COMMUNITY 
SURVEY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COULD 
BE ADMINISTERED IN THE FORM OF 
PUBLIC MEETING TO SATISFY.
IT SEEMS TO ME, THEY'RE THE SAME
BILL IT'S JUST HOW YOU 
ADMINISTER IT.
IS THAT FAIR?
>> YES, I THINK YOU'RE ON THE 
RIGHT TRACK.
I THINK THERE'S A SET OF 
CONSTITUENTS THAT PROBABLY DON'T
HAVE ACCESS TO AN ONLINE SURVEY,
WOULD STILL NEED TO DO SOME OUT 
REACH.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED THROUGH THE 
PROCESS.
I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT 
TO HAPPEN AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO PUT MR. RAEL ON THE
SPOT.
I WANT TO GIVE THE 
ADMINISTRATION A CHANCE TO 
COMMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT?
>> MR. PRESIDENT, GATHERING 
COMMUNITY INPUT IS A GOOD 
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A GOOD TOOL 
TO GET THAT DONE IS IMPORTANT.
I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, OUR 
FORMER COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR 
SANCHEZ WAS CONCERNED THERE WAS 
ALWAYS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT 
IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS 
YOU GETT THAT INPUT ANYWAY AS 
YOU MOVE FORWARD.
HAVING SAID THAT, MY ONLY KERNEL
WITH THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT IS 
ENSURINGING THAT THE SURVEY 
INSTRUMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE 
NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT AND NOT 
USING THE SURVEY TOOL FOR OTHER 
PURPOSES BECAUSE IT CAN BECOME 
VERY POLITICAL IN THE PROCESS.
I THINK GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT 
IS IMPORTANT AND THE COUNSEL HAS
THE PREROGATIVE TO DO THAT 
ANYWAY THEY SEE FIT.
>>COUN. BENTON: I'LL FOLLOW UP 
ON THAT.
IN TERMS OF EITHER THESE OPTIONS
BEING DISCUSSED, I SHOULDN'T 
CHARACTERIZE IT, THEY BOTH 
REQUIRE RESOURCES OF THE 
ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE 
COUNCIL.
WE ARE MUCH MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT
THE ABILITY OF THE OFFICE OF 
NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION TO DO 
THIS OUTREACH.
I'M THINKING THROUGH THIS SINCE 
I SAW THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS 
BILL AND WE HAVE GONE WITH 
REGARD TO SET ASIDE DECISIONS SO
FAR AS TO ACTUALLY DO SOME TRIAL
RUNS OF PARTICIPATING BUDGETING.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF 
THAT'S RELATED TO WHAT'S BE 
SOUGHT HERE.
I'M JUST WONDERING AND GET 
THROUGH MY MIND, I GUESS BETWEEN
NOW AND NEXT YEAR, THIS WOULDN'T
INVOLVE CLEAN UP?
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE 
PUT IN PLACE, JUST THINKING 
ALOUD HERE.
>>COUN. DAVIS: BEFORE WE GO FOR 
SECONDS TO OTHER FOLKS.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THIS DEBATE
OR DISCUSSION ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A NECESSARY
DISTINCTION.
I DID ONE OF THESE LAST YEAR BY 
E-MAIL.
WE GOT ABOUT 700 RESPONDENTS.
NOT BAD FOR GETTING INPUT.
THEY WANTED US TO BUILD A CENTER
FOR HOMELESS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GET INTO HOW 
MANY DETAILS GET INTO WHAT.
NOSE ARE POLICY QUESTIONS.
BUT IT DID WORK WELL.
LEARNED FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE 
WE NEED BOTH ASPECTS BUT USING 
THE SAME FORM AT WORKS WELL.
IT'S A GOOD WAY TO WORK PEOPLE 
IN THE PROCESS.
SOME COUNCILORS WILL GO ALL-IN 
ON IT AND DO PARTICIPATING 
BUDGETING.
I APPLAUD YOU, THIS IS A GOOD 
IDEA.
I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCILOR 
BORREGO.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I WAS GOING TO 
REMIND THE COUNSEL THAT WE USED 
TO DO THIS.
WE USED TO HAVE MEETINGS IN THE 
COMMUNITY.
WE USED TO INVITE THE DEPARTMENT
DIRECTORS TO THOSE MEETINGS.
WE REALLY ONLY HAD ONE MEETING 
AND WE LEFT IT OPEN FOR PEOPLE 
TO SEND THEIR COMMENTS IN.
IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
WHEN WHERE PROPOSED THIS I DID 
MEET WITH SOME OF THE STAFF.
MR. MOSCO AND MR. MONTOYA, AND 
THE INTENT IS TO ALLOW THAT 
ADDITIONAL INPUT AND PROCESS SO 
THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT 
OPPORTUNITY, WHETHER THEY TALK 
WITH THEIR COUNCILORS DIRECTLY, 
THEY SEND A SURVEY, OR THE 
PROCESS TO THE MEETING.
IT ALLOWS MORE INPUT FOR 
COMMENTS.
THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A 
PROCESS FOR PRIORITIZING THOSE.
THAT'S REALLY LEFT UP TO THE 
STAFF.
BUT IT INCLUDES A PROCESS THAT 
IS COLLABORATIVE.
THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT OF 
THIS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR.
WE'RE STILL ON FLOOR AMENDMENT 
NUMBER ONE.
COUNCILOR BASSAN.
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I JUST -- MY AMENDMENT AND THE 
EXPLANATION PART OF IT, JUST AS 
A REVIEW IN AGREEMENT, THE 
INTENTION IS TO REQUIRE DMDC 
DIVISION IN THE COLLABORATION 
WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD 
COLLABORATION TO ADMINISTER THE 
SURVEY FOR USE DURING THE 
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IT WAS 
GOING TO BE THE IDEA THAT IT'S 
MORE ECONOMICAL AND WE YIELD 
MORE RESPONSES FROM CONSTITUENT 
AND THE INTENTION IS TO DO IT 
THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND
SOCIAL MEDIA AND MARKETING 
EFFORTS.
I CONCUR THAT OPTIONS ARE GOOD.
I'M JUST WARY OF OFFING TOO MANY
OPTIONS TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS THE DISCRETION OF THE 
COUNCILOR TO THE DISTRICT.
THIS IS TO NOT ONLY FOR HAVE 
PUBLIC COMMENT WITHOUT AN 
ORGANIZED FASHION TO RETRIEVE 
THE DATA.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR JONES, 
AND COUNCILOR BENTON AND 
COUNCILOR HARRIS AND WE'LL BRING
THIS TO A VOTE.
>>COUN. JONES: CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BOTH 
OF THESE ARE SAYING WE MAY DO 
WHICHEVER THEY PREFER?
>> I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN'S 
AMENDMENT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE
POINTED TO USING THE SURVEY AND 
PROMOTING THAT THROUGH 
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, COALITION
MEETINGS.
IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE, 
NECESSARILY, SPECIFIC MEETINGS 
TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION.
WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THOSE 
SURVEYS AND HAVE HARD COPY 
SURVEYS AT THE MEETINGS.
>>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU.
SO, ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE 
DIFFERENT IN PARTICIPATION.
AND I MUST SAY, FOR US IN THE 
DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT, WE 
HAVE SO FEW PEOPLE REPRESENTED 
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION 
OR PUBLIC MEETING.
SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE 
NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT
THAT I THINK FOR MY DISTRICT IT 
WOULD BE FAR MORE PREFERABLE TO 
BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH SURVEYS 
THAT WE PUT OUT THROUGH 
DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH 
NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT EITHER ONE 
OF THESE GIVES THE OPTION OF ONE
OR THE OTHER OR BOTH.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT 
THING.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT
IT'S TIME TO DO TO ASK THE 
NEIGHBORHOODS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS
WANT THINGS THAT DON'T 
NECESSARILY NEED TO BE DONE IN 
THE CITY AND THERE'S THE 
QUESTION WHO MAKES THAT DECISION
AND THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS THE 
COUNCILOR.
SO, I THINK IT GIVES THE 
CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK 
TO US AND GIVE US JUSTIFICATION,
WITH WHETHER WE DO IT BY 
SURVEY -- FOR ME IT'S EASIER TO 
READ COUNCILOR BASSAN'S IS CLEAR
IN HOW WE DO AND NOT ESSENTIAL 
TO HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THAT'S MY TAKE, IF I'M WRONG, 
PLEASE CORRECT ME.
THANK YOU.
>>COUN. HARRIS: COUNCILOR HARRIS
AND BACK TO COUNCILOR BENTON 
THEN BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN.
>>COUN. HARRIS: THE FIRST TIME I
WAS BUDGET CHAIR WAS 2007 WE 
WENT ON THE ROAD AND I THOUGHT 
THAT WAS A THING TO DO.
THE BUDGET, ESPECIALLY THE 
CAPITAL YEARS IS THE MOST 
IMPORTANT THING THE CITY COUNCIL
DOES.
THERE'S TWO AREAS IS WHERE THE 
CITY COUNCIL HAS MORE POWER THAN
THE MAYOR.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS GO OUT INTO 
THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, WE WENT 
TO TAYLOR RANCH AND OTHERS, AND 
SET UP TABLE AND SAT THERE AND 
HAD MICROPHONES, IT DIDN'T 
REALLY COST US THAT MUCH TO SET 
THIS UP.
WAS IT ALL THAT DIFFICULT TO DO?
>> MR. PRESIDENT, WHAT I RECALL 
IS WE WOULD HAVE TWO OUT OF THE 
THREE COMMUNITY OF THE WHOLE 
MEETINGS OUT IN DIFFERENT PARTS 
OF THE CITY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH
AN EXTERNAL CONSULTANT TO HANDLE
THE MICROPHONES.
SO WE DID HAVE SOME OF THE 
CHALLENGES, IT WAS DOABLE AND I 
RECALL IT COSTING IN THE RANGE 
OF 5,000 TO 8,000 PER MEETING.
>>COUN. HARRIS: CONSIDERING THAT
WE HAVE A BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET,
I'M CONCERNED PEOPLE ARE 
SCOFFING AT THAT.
CONSIDERING IT'S THE MOST 
IMPORTANT THING WE DO EVERY 
YEAR, AND CONSIDERING THAT, I'VE
NEVER HEARD A BUNCH OF CITY 
COUNCILLORS COMPLAIN ABOUT 
MEETING BEFORE.
I LIKE TO KEEP THE MEETINGS ON 
THE TABLE.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR BENTON.
AND WE'LL HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN 
AND BACK TO COUNCILOR BORREGO.
>>COUN. BENTON: I TOTALLY AM ON 
BOARD WITH THE INTENT HERE.
MY CONCERNS, I THINK, THIS IS 
SOMETHING WE CAN DO AT LITTLE 
COST.
IT'S NOT NO COST.
AND IT IS STAFF TIME FOR THE 
COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION, 
WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TO 
JUST ORGANIZE IT.
DOES THAT COME OUT OF ANY OTHER 
TIME OR EFFORT.
THAT IS ONE CONCERN, THE OTHER 
IS THE QUALITY OF THE DATA WE'RE
GOING TO GET.
WHEN WE LOOK AT DISTRICTS LIKE 
DISTRICT TWO WHERE SIGNIFICANT 
PARTS OF THE DISTRICT ARE 
WORKING CLASS OR POVERTY 
STRICKEN COMMUNITIES, THEY'RE 
NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN 
EITHER ONE.
IT'S REALLY HARD.
THIS IS PART OF THE WHOLE 
STRUGGLE WE HAD WITH TRYING TO 
GET INPUT OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS
IN SOMETHING LIKE THE ZONING 
CODE REFORM.
THIS IS -- SURE IT AFFECTS THE 
COMMUNITY, AND IF THEY GET THIS 
THEY MAY GET THE WORD AND THEY 
MAY SOMEHOW FIND OUT ABOUT A 
MEETING OR A SURVEY AND ATTEND.
I DO WORRY SOMEWHAT, WITH REGARD
TO THIS, THAT SOME OF THE SAME 
LEGITIMATE CRITICISMS CAN BE 
LEVIED IN THE PROCESS LIKE THIS 
AS TO WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF 
DATA AND THE FEEDBACK FROM EVERY
COMMUNITY IN THE CITY.
IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR A
COUNCILOR.
DIFFERENT COUNCILORS USE 
DIFFERENT MEANS TO DETERMINE 
WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THEIR 
COMMUNITIES WITHIN THEIR 
DISTRICTS.
THIS IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE 
ABOUT IT.
THERE IS A COST TO IT.
I REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT THE 
EFFORT.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD BAKE 
THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TRY 
TO DIG MORE INTO WHAT IT WILL 
FEEL LIKE AND LOOK LIKE IN 
OPERATION BEFORE WE MAKE A 
DECISION.
I'M SURE EVERYONE UP HERE SHARES
THE CONCERN AND I APPRECIATE 
COUNCILOR BORREGO'S BRINGING IT 
FORWARD.
I WANT IT TO BE AS AFFECTIVE AS 
POSSIBLE.
WE MUST DO ONE OR THE OTHER, IS 
THERE ONE WE'RE NOT THINKING OF?
>>COUN. BASSAN: I AM 100% FOR 
COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND 
OPINIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, SO 
UPON HEARING MORE DETAILS AS 
COUNCILOR BORREGO'S AMENDMENT.
IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THESE
AMENDMENTS, WE WILL BE ISSUING A
CONSISTENT SURVEY FOR THE 
QUALITY OF DATA TO BE 
RETRIEVEDED?
WHAT'S THE EVALUATION OF THE 
SURVEY GOING OUT.
AND IN THESE MEETINGS, WILL ONLY
THAT SURVEY BE ALLOWED TO BE 
TURNED IN, OR WILL IT BE MORE 
OPEN TO INTERPRETATION AND 
COMMENTS.
I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 
IT'S MORE OF AN INFORM IN ORDER 
TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 
PROVIDE THIS SURVEY FOR THOSE 
PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE INTERNET.
THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE 
CONSISTENCY.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S AT THE 
DISCRETION OF THE COUNCILOR 
WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO 
SOMETHING IN PERSON OR IF THEY 
WANT TO DO JUST THE SURVEY, 
WHETHER IT BE AT COMMUNITY 
CENTERS OR WHATEVER, I'M 
CONCERNED THAT THIS WON'T BE 
CONSISTENT.
HOW WILL THE SURVEY BE PROVIDED?
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE 
DOING?
>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF A 
SURVEY TOOL WAS USED THAT THE 
SURVEY BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT 
THE DISTRICT.
I WOULD WORK WITH OMC AND MR. 
MASCO TO COME UP WITH A FORMAT.
I'M NOT SURE THE INTENT OF 
HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING, 
MAYBE COUNCILOR BORREGO CAN HELP
ME TALK THAT PIECE.
>>COUN. BORREGO: WELL, 
COUNCILORS, WHERE APPRECIATE ALL
OF YOUR INPUT.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THIS 
TOGETHER AND WE ALL WANT TO HAVE
THE BEST INFORMATION BACK FROM 
OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HAVE A 
PROCESS THAT INVOLVES THEIR 
INPUT IN FINAL DECISIONS AS WE 
MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR BUDGET.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS 
FORWARD TONIGHT, COUNCILOR 
BENTON.
WHAT I GO BACK TO IS I LOOK AT, 
FOR EXAMPLE, OUR PROGRESS 
INDICATORS AND HOW WE HAVE A 
CONSISTENT SURVEY FOR THAT 
PROCESS.
AND HOW THAT COMES BACK TO US TO
HELP US ESTABLISH SOME OF OUR 
GOALS.
I THINK THAT MAYBE A SIMPLE 
CHANGE IN MY AMENDMENT MIGHT 
HELP THIS.
INSTEAD OF, AND I TALKED TO 
COUNCILOR JONES ABOUT THIS A 
LITTLE BIT, IS MAYBE THE WORD 
SHALL IS CREATING A PROBLEM.
MAYBE WE JUST SAY, FRIENDLY 
AMENDMENT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS 
PROGRAM OPTIONS COULD INCLUDE OR
MAY INCLUDE OR SOMETHING LIKE 
THAT INSTEAD OF SHALL.
IT LEAVES THE DISCRETION UP TO 
THE COUNCILOR TO DETERMINE WHAT 
PROCESS WITH THE CIP STAFF IS 
APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR DISTRICT 
BECAUSE WE DO ALL HAVE DIFFERENT
NEEDS IN OUR DISTRICTS.
I THINK IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS OF
THE SURVEY ITSELF, THAT WOULD BE
UP TO THE STAFF.
REALLY, THAT IS A STUFF 
FUNCTION.
BUT, MAYBE WE JUST SHIFT THAT 
ONE WORD INSTEAD OF SHALL TO 
MAY, AN OPTION WHY MAY INCLUDE A
SURVEY OR A COMMUNITY MEETING.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SOME OF US 
HAVE COALITIONS THAT WORK.
SOME OF US HAVE A SURVEY PROCESS
THAT MAY WORK.
I WOULD JUST URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR 
BORREGO, YOU ARE MAKE -- 
>> SO, I HAVE A SUGGESTION HERE 
FOR SOME LANGUAGE THAT MIGHT 
WORK.
ON YOUR AMENDMENT, ITEM TWO, 
SECTION ONE WOULD READ THE 
PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS FOR
THE UPCOMING 2021 CAPITAL 
IMPROVE PROGRAM SHALL INCLUDE 
OUT REACH TO THE COMMUNITY.
>>COUN. BASSAN: WOULD THAT 
SUFFICE?
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
COUNCILOR BORREGO, I THINK THIS 
IS MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE.
I STILL WANT TO URGE THE IDEA 
THAT THESE MEETINGS WITH A COST 
NOW KNOWN OF 5,000 TO $8,000, I 
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE 
A MEETING THAT'S RECORDED 
WITHOUT REALLY PROPER 
GUIDELINES.
IF AT THESE MEETINGS IT CAN 
ACTUALLY BE INCLUDED WHERE THE 
SURVEY IS WHAT THE MEETING IS 
FOR DISTRIBUTING.
RATHER THAN A COALITION MEETING 
THAT IS COSTING US $8,000 TO 
MAKE SURE WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
I AGREE AND I LIKE THIS CHANGE.
I THINK IT DOES CHANGE IT 
SIGNIFICANTLY, I AM APPRECIATIVE
OF USE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
AS LONG AS WE CAN ENSURE THIS 
PARTICULAR MEETING FOR THIS 
PARTICULAR RESOLUTION WILL 
INCLUDE A SURVEY SO WE HAVE THE 
CONSISTENCY WHETHER IT BE AT THE
MEETING OR THROUGH JUST A SURVEY
BASED OFF THE PREFERENCE OF THE 
COUNCILOR THAT WOULD BE 
IMPORTANT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: YOU'RE OKAY WITH 
HER LANGUAGE AND WE'RE GOING TO 
ADOPT THAT.
>>COUN. HARRIS: I WANT TO BE 
CLEAR THAT THE $8,000 WAS 
BRINGING THE STAFF AND THE WHOLE
GOVTV, IT WASN'T A COALITION 
MEETING, IT WAS RECORDED ON A 
TAPE DELAY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN AGAINST ALL 
OF THIS SO FAR.
I DO LIKE COUNCILOR BORREGO'S 
AMENDING HER AMENDMENT.
HERE'S WHY.
WE HAVE A COALITION THAT'S 
WRITTEDY HIGHLY FUNCTIONAL.
AND BESIDES THAT WE TWO TOWN 
HALLS A YEAR.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OUTREACH 
ANYWAY.
OF COURSE THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH.
I GET THAT.
I WOULD HATE TO BE TIED INTO 
HAVING A SINGLE MEETING FOR 
THIS.
THE REASON I'M NOT ON BOARD WITH
THAT IS BECAUSE AS IT'S BEEN 
MENTIONED BY SEVERAL COUNCILORS 
SO FAR, PEOPLE ARE EXCLUDED.
NOT INTENTIONALLY, BUT THEY'RE 
GOING TO BE EXCLUDED.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND 
PEOPLE FROM YOUR DISTRICT THERE,
THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL 
THOUSAND WHO AREN'T THERE.
YOU CAN TAKE THE VOTE AND STILL 
NOT BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 
WILL OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
IF WE CAN DO THIS AT A COALITION
MEETING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING 
THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE 
INDIVIDUAL COUNCILOR, I BELIEVE,
TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR THAT 
THIS IS FOR INPUT AND NOT 
DECISIVE PROJECTS.
CAN GO ALONG WITH THAT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR JONES FOR DEBATE ON 
THE AMENDMENT.
I HAVE A CONCERN, THAT IS ARE WE
GOING TO GIVE GUIDELINES OF WHAT
A CIP PROJECT IS?
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SET IDEA 
OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I CAN JUST IMAGINE MY LITTLE 
LEAGUE TEAM WANTING ALL NEW BATS
AND BASES.
THAT IS NOT CIP.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE GIVE THEM 
GUIDELINES?
OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 
FREE FOR ALL, THE GUTTERS NEAR 
MY HOUSE, THE CURBS, THE 
POTHOLES ON THIS STREET THAT I 
DRIVE ON ALL THE TIME, HOW DO I 
SET THE PRIORITIES WHEN IT 
BECOMES AN OPEN HOUSE FREE FOR 
ALL IN A MEETING.
WHEN WE SEND OUT A SURVEY, DO WE
GIVE THEM PARAMETERS.
OR WE JUST LET THEM SAY, WE 
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BELL TOWER 
ON THE STREET NEXT TO US BECAUSE
IT LOOKS NICE AND THE CLOCK IS 
GOOD.
HOW DO WE GIVE GUIDELINES, WE 
CAN'T JUST -- FIRST OF ALL 
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT CIP STANDS 
FOR.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE 
INFORMATION ON THAT.
I THINK I'M NOT OPPOSED TO 
INPUT, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE TO 
KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND
WHAT QUALIFIES BEFORE WE GET 
INTO A MASS RIOT ABOUT SOMEBODY 
WANTS THIS ON THEIR STREET AND 
SOMEBODY WANTS THIS AND WE ALL 
KNOW THAT THE STREET THAT IS IN 
THE WORST REPAIR IS THE ONE WE 
SHOULD ADDRESS FIRST, NOT THE 
ONE THAT HAS THE MOST VOCAL 
INPUT.
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS 
SITUATION?
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR JONES, 
I'VE SAID THAT I'VE WATCHED YOU 
OVERSEE THE WATER AUTHORITY 
PROCESS AS THEY EDUCATE 
CONSUMERS ABOUT THOSE PROCESSES 
AND THE NEED FOR CAPITAL.
AND I NOTE THAT IN THE AMENDMENT
THERE IS A PROVISION THAT 
REQUIRES THOSE DEPARTMENTS OR 
CIP AND ONC TO DEVELOP OUTREACH 
MATERIALS I THINK WE CAN COME UP
WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON A 
CITY WIDE SCALE.
I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH 
THAT.
WE HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND 
COUNCILOR BORREGO STILL TO 
COMMENT.
>>COUN. JONES: ONE LAST COMMENT.
IT IS EASY TO DO THAT, BUT WE 
ALSO KNOW WE HAVE NAMES AND 
ADDRESSES AND ABILITY TO SEE THE
PEOPLE ON THE WATER AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE MASSES OF PEOPLE WHO 
PARTICIPATE IN THE WATER 
AUTHORITY, BUT CITIZENS WHO HAVE
PROPERTY THAT THERE IS ONE METER
AND THEY DON'T PAY IT GOES TO 
THEM.
HOW DO WE DO THIS IF WE INCLUDE 
THIS, HOW DO WE MAKE IT 
INCLUSIVE WITHOUT OUT OF CONTROL
NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT REALLY
IS.
THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE BEST 
INTENTIONS WITH THE WORST 
POSSIBLE EXECUTION.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN.
>>COUN. BASSAN: I PROMISE I'M 
GETTING CLOSER TO BEING DONE.
IN ANSWER TO THE COUNCILOR 
JONES'S QUESTION WITH HOW DO WE 
HAVE THESE GUIDELINES, IT'S MY 
UNDERSTANDING THAT IS WHY WE'RE 
OFFERING THE SURVEY AND IN THIS 
SURVEY, MAYBE -- CLEARLY I NEED 
TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH WHAT I 
ASK, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING 
TO BE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS.
WHAT I ENVISION IS MORE OF, 
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS 
SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON, WE CAN
HAVE A SURVEY WHERE IT ASKS MORE
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN A GENERAL 
WAY.
LIKE A MULTIPLE CHOICE, IS 
STREET REPAIR YOUR NUMBER ONE 
PRIORITY OR LIGHTING OR 
LITTERING OR WHATEVER THAT MAY 
BE THAT FALLS IN THE GUIDELINES 
SO THAT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT 
OF CLOSURE ON THE INABILITY TO 
HAVE JUST OPEN BELL TOWER 
REQUESTS.
I THINK THAT I'M PREPARED TO 
ALMOST ACCEPT COUNCILOR 
BORREGO'S AMENDMENT AS LONG AS 
WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE 
SCHEDULES MEETINGS INCLUDING BUT
NOT LIMITED TO THE SCHEDULED 
MEETING, IF THEY'RE CHOSEN AS A 
COALITION MEETING OR AN 
ORGANIZED MEETING WITH GOV TV 
THAT WILL BE THERE IF THE 
COUNCILOR DECIDES NOT TO HOLD 
THAT MEETING.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR 
BORREGO.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I APPRECIATE 
COUNCILOR JONES, IN TERMS OF 
ANYTHING WE DO WE GET THINGS 
OFF-THE-WALL, THAT'S OBVIOUS.
I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 
CAPITOL  -- WE'RE HERE TO SET 
POLICY.
INSTAFF REALLY HAS THAT 
PROFESSIONALISM.
I THINK WE NEED TO DEPEND ON 
THEM TO LIMIT WHAT THAT SCOPE 
IS.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE 
STAFF AND WHEN THEY GO OUT AND 
WHEN THEY'RE THERE TO BE ABLE TO
DESCRIBE WHAT TACTFUL 
IMPROVEMENTS ARE.
AND WHAT CDBG FUNDS -- IT'S 
GETTING LATE.
TO HAVE THAT DEFINITION 
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
SEEING NO OTHER DEBATE.
IS THAT YOUR CLOSE?
>>COUN. BORREGO: I URGE YOUR 
SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN 
HAS ONE MORE FOLLOW UP.
>>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A WAY, 
COUNCILOR BORREGO, THAT YOU 
WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE ONE 
ADDITIONAL QUICK AMENDMENT 
SAYING THAT IT SHALL INCLUDE, 
AND I'M SORRY I FORGET HOW YOU 
TERMED IT, BUT INCLUDE BUT NOT 
LIMITED TO SCHEDULED MEETINGS 
INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATION OF 
COMMUNITY SURVEY IN EACH 
COUNCILOR SURVEY OR THE 
ADMINISTRATION OF THE COMMUNITY 
SURVEY.
SO IT'S STILL BOTH BUT WE'RE NOT
LEAVING IT UP TO INTERPRETATION 
THAT THE SCHEDULED MEETING WILL 
ALSO PROVIDE THE SURVEY WHICH 
WILL ALLOW ALLOW FOR THE 
CONSISTENT RESPONSE THAT WILL BE
WHETHER PEOPLE, I'M ASSUMING 
THESE MEETINGS, IF THEY ONLY 
HAVE A MEETING THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO ALSO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE E-MAIL
IN OR WHATEVER.
THAT WIIT CAN INCLUDE BOTH.
>>COUN. DAVIS: TAKING THAT I SEE
COUNCILOR BORREGO AGREEING TO 
THAT.
COULD YOU READ THAT FIRST 
SENTENCE BACK INTO THE RECORD 
WITH THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT 
INSERTED?
>> SO, THIS IS WHAT I'M TAKING 
FROM THIS LATEST AMENDMENT, THE 
PRELIMINARY PLANNING PROCESS FOR
THE UPCOMING 2021 IMPROVE 
PROGRAM SHALL INCLUDE OUTREACH 
TO THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING BUT 
NOT LIMITED TO SURVEYS OR 
SCHEDULED COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO 
ADMINISTER THIS SURVEY.
SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT?
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR?
>>COUN. BASSAN: SO, SCHEDULED 
MEETINGS, INCLUDING THE 
ADMINISTRATION OF A COMMUNITY 
SURVEY, OR THE ADMINISTRATION OF
A COMMUNITY SURVEY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: FOR THE RECORD 
FOR STAFF, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
MR. RAEL, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
A COMMENT.
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE
IS THAT CAN WE INCLUDE IN THIS 
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THE WORD 
STANDARDIZED SURVEY SO THAT IS 
ACROSS THE BOARD THE SAME FOR 
EVERY DISTRICT.
THAT WILL HELP A LOT WITH JUST 
GETTING THE INFORMATION IN 
COMPARING INFORMATION.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR 
BORREGO'S AGREEING TO THAT.
>> LET ME TRY THIS AGAIN.
SHALL INCLUDE, THE 
ADMINISTRATION OF A STANDARDIZED
SURVEY TO BE DELIVERERED THROUGH
COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR OTHER 
MEANS.
DOES THAT WORK?
>>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY.
THE SPONSOR IS OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT IS THE AMENDMENT ON THE 
FLOOR.
FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, ALL 
IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT 
CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR BORREGO BACK ON THE 
BILL.
THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BORREGO FOR
CLOSING.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THAT ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILOR GIBSON.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I OPPOSE.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GIBSON 
WAS A NO ON THAT.
7-1.
COUNCILOR BENTON TO PRESENT 
R-15.
>>COUN. BENTON: IT'S DECLARING 
THE INTENT OF THE CITY OF 
ALBUQUERQUE TO ISSUE 
METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT BONDS
IN A PRINCIPAL NOT TO EXCEED $7 
MILLION OF THE EQUIPPING OF THE 
PROJECT TO INDUCE TO LOCATE AND 
DEVELOP THE PROJECT IN THE CITY 
DESCRIBED IN THE PROJECT PLAN.
I MOVE A DUE PASS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE A MOTION 
AND SEVERAL SECONDS.
MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
TAD IS OUR ONLY SPEAKER THIS 
EVENING.
>> THANK YOU.
I CAN SEE MOST OUTSTANDING 
LEADERS, JONES, BENTON, USED TO 
BE SANCHEZ, AND NOW ANOTHER 
GIBSON.
BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S 
RIGHT REAL ESTATE ALCOHOL 
INDUSTRIES IN DOWNTOWN AREA AND 
ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE.
HERE YOU SPEND MILLIONS DOLLARS.
400% FINANCE -- WHO IS 
FINANCING?
SHE'S MANAGER OF THIS PROJECT 
FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE.
YES, WHO IS HER MANAGER?
LAWRENCE RAEL.
WHOSE DISTRICT?
ISAAC BENTON.
HOW MANY DISTRICTS DOES ISAAC 
BENTON HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO 
CAPITAL OUTLAY IN DOWNTOWN AREA?
THIS IS ALL PEOPLE'S MONEY OF 
CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE.
THIS MONEY SHOULD BE SUSPENDED 
TO MULTIPLE MILLIONAIRES.
THEY OWN ESTABLISHMENTS.
I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THE 
BILLIONS WILL GO TO THE POCKET 
OF ISAAC BENTON AND LAWRENCE 
RAEL.
LET ME BE OUTSPOKEN.
LET THE ALBUQUERQUE TRIBUNE, 
CHANNEL 7, AND CHANNEL 13 HEAR 
ALL OF THAT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE 
ADMINISTRATION?
>> THIS IS ORGANIZED CRIME.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ANY COMMENT FROM 
THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS ITEM?
>> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE
COUNSEL, THIS IS A GREAT 
OPPORTUNITY TO REINVEST IN THE 
COMMUNITY AND WE URGE YOUR 
SUPPORT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ANY DEBATE OR 
DISCUSSION?
COUNCILOR BENTON TO CLOSE?
>>COUN. BENTON: I URGE YOUR 
SUPPORT COUNCILORS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN 
FAVOR?
HEARING NONE, THAT CARRIES 
UNANIMOUSLY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: LAST UP ON THE 
AGENDA IS RA-1 IT'S A RULES 
AMENDMENT IT AMENDING THE CITY 
COUNCIL RULES RELATING TO 
PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
I MOVE A DUE PASS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO 
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
COUNCILORS JUST TO PRESENT THIS 
BILL WHILE THE STAFF IS BRINGING
AN AMENDMENT.
EVERY TIME WE START A NEW 
COUNSEL AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT 
THE RULES TO MAKE SURE WE USE 
TIME MOST EFFICIENTLY.
THIS IS RULES TO ENSURE WE'RE 
GIVING THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE
IN AS MANY CONVERSATIONS AS 
POSSIBLE.
BY DEFINING A LIMITED NUMBER OF 
PROCLAMATIONS, WE GAVE AN 
OPPORTUNITY TO EACH COUNCILOR TO
SPONSOR AN EQUAL NUMBER HERE 
WHILE COUNCILOR BORREGO 
MENTIONED THEY HAVE THE CHANCE 
TO PRESENT THEM LATER OR IN 
OTHER FORUMS BUT TO MAKE SURE WE
GET TO BUSINESS BEFORE IT'S TOO 
LATE TO STAY.
THIS WAS OUR PROPOSAL TO DO JUST
THAT.
THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL TO DO FLOOR
AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE.
>> I HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT 
RA20-1.
IT'S ON PAGE ONE, LINE SIXES 
THROUGH SEVEN, STRIKE THROUGH 
THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE, NO 
COUNCILOR MAY PRESENT MORE THAN 
FOUR PROCLAMATIONS AT A MEET 
EGPER CALENDAR YEAR.
I THINK THAT PROCLAMATIONS ARE 
REALLY A VERY NICE AND POSITIVE 
THING WE DO ON CITY COUNCIL IS 
BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND GIVE
CREDIT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING 
EXTRAORDINARY THINKS.
I REALIZE OUR MEETINGS CAN GET 
CUMBERSOME.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO 
LIMIT IT TO TWO PER MEETING.
I THINK THAT SEEMS VERY VALID.
HOWEVER, I THINK THAT ONE 
MEETING WE WON'T HAVE ANY AND 
THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL.
IF SOMEBODY -- IF WE DON'T HAVE 
PROCLAMATIONS MAYBE SOMEBODY 
THAT MAXED OUT THEIR FOUR MIGHT 
WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE.
OR TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE 
TWO PROCLAMATIONS FROM THE SAME 
COUNCILOR ALLOWING FOR LESS 
COMPETITION WHEN IT COMES TO IF 
SOMEBODY COMING TO A 
PROCLAMATION, THEN ANOTHER 
COUNCILOR COMES LATER THEN 
THEY'RE NOT OUT NUMBERS WITH 
THAT AND THEY HAVE AN ANOTHER 
FAIR OPPORTUNITY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR BASSAN.
THAT'S FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR 
JONES.
COUNCILOR GIBSON WITH A 
QUESTION.
>>COUN. GIBSON: I HAVE A 
QUESTION.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT 
THIS WOULD RESULT IN.
CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE, 
PERHAPS?
>>COUN. BASSAN: SURE, COUNCILOR 
GIBSON, FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT WE 
HAD THREE PROCLAMATIONS, THIS 
LIMITS IT TO TWO.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE HAD 
THREE PROCLAMATIONS.
THIS TIME IT WAS THROUGH THE 
SAME COUNCILOR.
NEXT TIME, THERE WOULD BE A 
DIFFERENT COUNCILOR WOULD HAVE 
THAT OPPORTUNITY.
LET'S SAY I HAVE TWO 
PROCLAMATIONS I WANT TO GO AHEAD
AND MAKE SURE TO OFFER UP AT A 
MEETING, BUT ONE OF OTHER 
COUNCILORS HAD A PROCLAMATION 
THAT THEY TOO WANTED TO OFFER 
UP, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO HOLD 
OFF ON ONE OF MY PROCLAMATIONS 
TO ALLOW A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO 
HAVE IT.
AND THE NEXT MEETING WHEN 
THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY I CAN 
GO AHEAD AND HAVE MY 
PROCLAMATION EXECUTED.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR HARRIS 
TO RESPOND.
>>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE THE EXPLANATION THAT 
COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID, BUT 
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BILL SAYS.
I THINK WE SHOULD ADD TO CLARIFY
WHAT SHE MEANT, UNLESS ONLY ONE 
COUNCILOR DESIRES.
>>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT'S 
FAIR.
IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER COUNCILOR
THAT WANTS TO HAVE ONE, THEN 
THEY COULD USE UP TWO.
>>COUN. DAVIS: JUST TO GET ON 
THE RECORD, WE HAVE THAT RIGHT?
COUNCILOR GIBSON AND COUNCILOR 
BORREGO.
>>COUN. GIBSON: WHAT YOU JUST 
EXPLAINED, AND THANK YOU FOR 
THAT CLARIFICATION, THAT REALLY 
DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO 
DO WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE
STRIKING.
NO COUNCILOR MAY PRESENT MORE 
THAN FOUR PROCLAMATIONS PER 
CALENDAR YEAR.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN.
>>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
SO, IF I HAVE USED MY FOUR 
PROCLAMATIONS AND WE'RE LIMITED 
TO THAT, THEN TOWARD THE END OF 
THE YEAR, PERHAPS THERE WERE NO 
PROCLAMATIONS THAT WERE GOING TO
BE EXECUTED AT THE MEETING BUT I
SAW THAT THERE WAS A GREAT 
OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE ANOTHER
PERSON OR ENTITY OF THE PUBLIC 
THEN INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO 
SAY NOW I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 
NEXT YEAR OR FIND A DIFFERENT 
COUNCILOR TO SPONSOR THAT, THAT 
WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT OPEN 
OPPORTUNITY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BORREGO
AND I'LL RECOGNIZE MYSELF.
COUNCILOR BORREGO.
>>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THIS WHOLE 
RULE CHANGE.
WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER.
I REALLY THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE 
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU 
MEET ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY ASK 
FOR A PROCLAMATION WE'RE 
LIMITING OURSELVES, I REALLY 
THINK THAT IT INTERPRETS THE 
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, WHICH WE SAW
TONIGHT.
WE HAD ALL THESE STUDENTS WHO 
SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE 
THEY ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAD THE WOMEN'S LEAGUE OF 
VOTERS WHO I JUST HAPPEN SEE 
LAST WEEK AND WE TALKED ABOUT A 
PROCLAMATION.
I THINK WE'RE REALLY PUTTING 
RULES ON OURSELVES.
I THINK WHAT WE DID TONIGHT IS A
BETTER PROCESS FOR MOVING 
FORWARD IS WE JUST MOVE THE 
TITLE.
I THINK PEOPLE, IF THEY ARE 
BEING LIMITED TO PARTICIPATE IN 
OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, WE CAN 
GO READ THE PROCLAMATION AT 
MAYBE ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS.
BUT IF WE JUST READ THE TITLE 
AND PRESENT IT TO THEM.
THAT RECOGNITION IS, MANY OF 
THESE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS, OR 
THEY HAVE SOME FABRIC IN OUR 
COMMUNITY.
IF WE'RE SAYING, COUNCILOR, YOU 
MET YOUR QUOTA FOR THE YEAR, HOW
DO YOU TELL A COMMUNITY GROUP 
NO?
I'M JUST NOT GOING TO SUPPORT 
ANY OF THIS.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, 
COUNCILOR BORREGO.
I'M RECOGNIZE MYSELF, AND I'LL 
GO TO COUNCILOR HARRIS AND 
COUNCILOR BASSAN. 
I THINK I'M WILLING TO LOOK AT 
OTHER AMENDMENTS AND I THINK 
COUNCILOR BORREGO HAD A 
DIFFERENT AMENDMENT EVEN THOUGH 
SHE MAY NOT SUPPORT THE 
UNDERLYING.
THIS IS NOT -- I THINK THERE'S A
DIFFERENT ROUTE.
JUST AS WE SAW TONIGHT, THERE 
MIGHT BE INSTANCES WHERE THEY 
BRING TWO PROCLAMATIONS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT AND TIMELY BECAUSE IT 
REPRESENTS SOMETHING IMPORTANT 
TO THEM OR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THAT.
I KNOW THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS 
GOOD. I THINK THERE'S OTHER 
AMENDMENTS I MIGHT BE WILLING TO
SUPPORT.
I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT 
ANSWER IN TERMS OF ACHIEVING 
THAT BALANCE.
MY CONCERN IS SIMPLY THAT THERE 
ARE OCCASIONS WHERE COUNCILORS 
MAY WANT TO BRING BOTH FOR 
EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE THE TIME 
THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH ME.
I WANT TO GO TO COUNCILOR HARRIS
AND I'LL LET YOU RESPOND TO ALL 
OF THAT.
>>COUN. HARRIS: AGAIN, I DON'T 
THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT 
COUNCILOR BASSAN USED ACTUALLY 
SAYS WHAT SHE THOUGHT IT SAID.
IT SAYS YOU'RE STRIKING OUT NO 
COUNCILOR MAY PRESENT MORE THAN 
FOUR PROCLAMATIONS, WHICH MEAN 
THAT LIMIT IS GONE.
THAT'S FINE, AND I SUPPORT THE 
AMENDMENT AS A FRIENDLY 
AMENDMENT.
I DON'T DO A LOT OF 
PROCLAMATIONS.
IF THERE'S SOMEONE LIKE ME WHO 
DOESN'T DO A LOT, YOU'RE 
LIMITING COUNCILOR BORREGO TO 
FOUR AND SHE LIKES TO DO THEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK THE TWO PER MEETING IS 
FINE.
I DON'T MIND THAT.
I THINK WE CAN GET BOGGED DOWN.
AND WE END UP GOING TO 10 OR 11 
AT NIGHT ON SOME STUFF THAT WE 
NEED TO REALLY BE ALERT FOR.
SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT.
FOR THAT REASON, I DON'T MIND 
THE TWO PER MEETING.
I DON'T LIKE THE MANDATING THAT 
IT HAS TO BE FROM DIFFERENT 
COUNCILORS.
I DON'T LIKE THE FOUR MANDATE.
I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN'S 
AMENDMENT IS FINE.
>>COUN. DAVIS: FOR ALL THIS 
DISCUSSION, LET ME REMIND 
EVERYBODY, THESE ARE RULES.
FOR EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES 
THERE'S ALWAYS OPTIONS TO 
SUSPEND THE RULES TO PRESENT 
EXTRAS OR TO DO COSPONSORS.
IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE STANDARD
AGENDA TOGETHER WHEN THEY'RE 
TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE FOLKS 
COME IN THE LINE UP AND HOW MUCH
TIME WE HAVE TO DEDICATE AND 
WHEN TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 
AND FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN
THE HEARINGS TO APPEAR, IT IS 
HELPFUL TO HAVE A MORE 
STRUCTURED AGENDA.
ESPECIALLY AS WE GOT BUSIER OVER
THE YEARS.
I LIKE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND
MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT 
DEAL WITH TIME.
WE HAVE ROOM FOR DISCUSSIONS.
COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE THIS 
AMENDMENT -- I'M SORRY COUNCILOR
JONES HAS A FOLLOW UP AND 
COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE WITH 
HER RESPONSE.
>>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I ALSO DON'T GIVE MANY 
PROCLAMATIONS AND I HOPE WHEN I 
DO HAND THEM OUT IT'S VERY 
SPECIAL AND IT GOES TO SPECIAL 
PEOPLE AND SPECIAL GROUPS.
I THINK THEY'RE MEANT TO BE LIKE
THE MEDDEDED -- MEDAL OF HONOR, 
I THINK THE MORE WE OFFER AND 
THE MORE WE HAND THEM OUT THE 
LESS MEANING THEY HAVE.
I HAVE NO -- I THINK THAT THE 
TIME SPENT AT OUR MEETINGS IS TO
DO THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE.
AND TO DO THE THINGS WE'RE 
SUPPOSED TO DO.
WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR 
AUDIENCE WHO ARE HERE TO 
PARTICIPATE IN THE BUSINESS OF 
THE PEOPLE AND WE TAKE UP ON ONE
OCCASION, ALMOST TWO HOURS WITH 
PROCLAMATIONS AND EVERYONE 
COMING UP TO TALK AND THANK US 
FOR THE PROCLAMATION, I THINK 
WE'RE A LITTLE OUT OF CONTROL.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.
LET'S TRY IT FOR A WHILE AND 
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE IT AND 
ADD A LITTLE MORE.
SOMETHING DOESN'T HAVE MUCH 
VALUE IF THERE ARE TOO MANY 
SOMETHINGS.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE 
GETTING IN THIS PROCLAMATION.
I SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR BASSAN DO YOU WANT TO 
RESPOND?
COUNCILOR PEÑA.
>>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. 
PRESIDENT.
I THINK THERE WAS DISCUSSION, I 
DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER 
AMENDMENTS?
THERE IS?
I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO 
GIVE PROCLAMATIONS TO PEOPLE.
WE GET APPROACHED ON A REGULAR 
BASIS IN TERMS OF YOU HAVE A 
LITTLE LEAGUE THAT WENT TO THE 
CHAMPIONSHIP AND IT'S THE HEART 
ASSOCIATION AND ALL THESE THINGS
FALL IN THE SAME MONTH.
I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S 
DIFFICULT.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HEART
ASSOCIATION AM I GOING TO USE 
THAT AS ONE OF MINE OR AM I NOT 
GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE IT 
AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY OF 
ALBUQUERQUE.
I THINK COMMUNITY INPUT HONORING
PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING GREAT 
THINGS IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT'S PART OF THE WORK 
AND THE WORK WE DO BECAUSE 
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT 
THERE DOING THE THINGS THAT MAKE
ALBUQUERQUE GREAT.
FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF 
WE CAN CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF 
AMENDMENT THAT SAYS, BECAUSE I 
UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES IT TAKES 
AND IT CAN BE LENGTHILY, MAYBE 
IF WE CREATE A PROCESS AND I 
DON'T KNOW WUT THE AMENDMENT 
WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT CREATE A 
PROCESS TO WHERE THERE'S A 
DEADLINE BY FRIDAY THAT EVERYONE
TURNS IN PROCLAMATION AND ON 
MONDAY THE COUNSEL PRESIDENT CAN
READ OFF THE PROCLAMATIONS AND 
THE PEOPLE WE WANT TO HONOR AND 
BRING THEM ALL UP AT THE SAME 
TIME CONGRATULATE THEM FOR THEIR
WORK AND WE APPRECIATE THEM FOR 
THE HARD WORK THEY DO AND 
PERHAPS WE CAN GO OUT IN THE 
COMMUNITY AND READ IT WITH THEM 
OR GIVE IT TO THEM OR WHATEVER 
THE CASE MAY BE.
I JUST KNOW THAT I GET REQUESTS 
ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT JUST A 
WHOLE VARIETY OF THINGS.
SO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO 
THAT IN THE FORM OF AN 
AMENDMENT.
AND MAYBE WE CAN LIMIT THAT TO 
15 MINUTES.
I THINK IF YOU READ OFF ALL THE 
PROCLAMATIONS AND THE PEOPLE 
WANT TO HONOR.
BRING THEM UP TO WHAT COUNCILOR 
BORREGO DID TODAY BUT MAYBE DO 
IT ALL AT ONCE INSTEAD OF 
INDIVIDUALLY.
>>COUN. DAVIS: SO, I'M GOING TO 
GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN TO 
RESPOND TO THE FIVE PEOPLE AHEAD
OF HER AND GO BACK TO COUNCILOR 
HARRIS.
WE'LL KEEP THIS GOING.
>>COUN. HARRIS: I JUST WANT TO 
POINT OUT THAT AS THE PRESIDENT 
SAID, THIS IS A RULE, IF YOU 
WANT MORE PROCLAMATIONS THAT 
DAY, YOU JUST HAVE TO COLLECT 
YOUR SIX VOTES.
IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN,
I CAN'T IMAGINE COUNCILOR PEÑA 
COMING TO ME AND SAY I'D LIKE TO
GIVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION AND ME
SAYING NO.
I DON'T LIKE THAT SOCCER TEAM.
IT SETS A BASELINE AND WITH THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE RULES 
I THINK THAT'S OUR ESCAPE OUT.
>>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR BASSAN TO RESPOND.
I HEAR COUNCILOR BORREGO NEXT.
>>COUN. BASSAN: SO, I ABSOLUTELY
AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILOR 
BORREGO THERE SHOULDN'T BE A 
FOUR LIMIT QUOTA BECAUSE OF THE 
LACK OF ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE 
WITH THE PUBLIC AND SUPPORT 
THEM.
I THINK THAT'S A BIG SIGN OF OUR
DEMOCRACY.
WHICH IS WHY SAID WE SHOULD 
STRIKE THROUGH THAT LINE ON 
THIS.
-- THAT WAY THERE'S NO LIMIT 
THERE.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD 
HELP BALANCE OUT THE -- IT MIGHT
EVEN OUT THE DISTRIBUTION, WHICH
IS WHY I PUT IN THAT IT CANNOT 
BE AT THE REQUEST OF THE SAME 
COUNCILOR.
I THINK WE'RE HERE FOR A REALLY 
GOOD REASON AND WE'RE HERE TO DO
THE RIGHT THING AND WE WANT TO 
HONOR AND SUPPORT OUR 
CONSTITUENTS AND WE SHOULD AND 
BELIEVE DO SUPPORT EACH OTHER 
WITH THAT.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY, AS 
DISCUSSED WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT
THIS IS A RULES AMENDMENT AND WE
CAN STILL SUSPEND THE RULES OR 
MOVE TO MAYBE AMENDMENTS FURTHER
IN THE FUTURE TO WE JUST REMOVE 
THAT IT SHALL BE AT THE TWO 
DIFFERENT COUNCILORS.
BECAUSE IT WAS MY HOPE AND 
INTENTION WITH THIS AMENDMENT, 
IF ONE COUNCILOR CAME WITH TWO 
PROCLAMATIONS AND ANOTHER 
COUNCILOR CAME WITH TWO THE 
OTHER ONE WOULDN'T GET BOOTED.
I THINK IF WE PROPERLY 
COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER WE 
HAVE THE AVAILABILITY, LIKE WITH
WHAT COUNCILOR HARRIS WAS SAYING
TO WORK TOGETHER AND SAYING THIS
IS MORE IMPORTANT AND PRESSING 
TIMES WITH LIKE WITH WHAT 
COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS SAYING.
WE NEED TO MAKE IT GO FIRST.
>>COUN. BORREGO: I DO NOT 
DISCOUNT ANY WORK THAT'S DONE BY
THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE HANDING OUT 
PROCLAMATIONS LIKE M&Ms.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT 
MONTH, LIKE IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD 
THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION 
TODAY.
LAST MONTH WE HAD WEST SIDE DAY.
THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE 
COUNCILORS READ PROCLAMATIONS 
JOINTLY.
AND FOR A COUNCILOR, SOMETIMES 
PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE 
APPROACHING ONE COUNCILOR OR 
ANOTHER, THAT'S THE NATURE OF 
HUMAN -- IT'S HUMAN NATURE.
I THINK THAT BY PUTTING 
LIMITATIONS ON -- MAYBE FOUR IS 
APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE TWO IS APPROPRIATE.
WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU 
AND IN JANUARY AND IN FEBRUARY 
YOU HAVE AMERICAN HEART 
ASSOCIATION, YOU HAVE BLACK 
HISTORY MONTH AND ALL THESE 
DIFFERENT GROUPS, WHAT DO YOU 
DO?
YOU SAY, I'M SORRY I'LL GIVE IT 
TO YOU IN MARCH?
WELL THE MONTH PASSED.
I THINK WE'RE PUTTING RULES ON 
OURSELVES THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO 
WATCH WHAT COMES FORWARD.
AND MAYBE BE MORE COGNIZANT OF 
EACH OTHER'S TIME.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK TONIGHT WAS A GOOD 
EXAMPLE.
WE ONLY READ THE TITLES, BUT 
THOSE PEOPLE WERE RECOGNIZED.
AND THEY LEFT HERE AND THEY'RE 
GOING BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY 
AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, LOOK 
WHAT I GOT.
THAT'S REALLY SPECIAL.
WHEN WE HAD THE WOMEN WHO CAME 
HERE WITH BREAST CANCER, SOME OF
THEM ARE UNDER GOING CHEMO 
THERAPY, ONE OF THEM DIED SINCE 
THEN.
THEIR FAMILIES WERE SO EXCITED 
THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO REMEMBER 
THAT PERSON BY.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF -- I MEAN, 
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE 
DISCOUNTING ANYONE.
WE SHOULD INCLUDE EVERYONE.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE
STREAMLINE, I AGREE WITH THAT.
LET'S BE AWARE THAT WHAT THIS 
COUNCIL DOES AS THE GOVERNING 
BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE 
AND WHAT WE PRESENT IS SOMETHING
THAT IS VERY VALUABLE.
HOW DO WE PICK AND CHOOSE?
DO WE DO BLACK HISTORY MONTH OR 
DO WE DO HEART MONTH?
THEY'RE BOTH IN FEBRUARY.
IT'S DIFFICULT.
THAT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT THING.
>>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME SAY THIS, 
THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS 
FORWARD IS NOT TO CUT OUT ANY 
COUNCILOR OR ANY COMMUNITY 
FOLKS.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT IS 
HEART ASSOCIATION MONTH, IT'S 
BLACK SHORT MONTH.
WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH, IN 
JUST GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT 
SOME OF THE OLD VIDEOS, I USED 
THE MONTH OF MAY, BUT IN THE 
LAST FIVE YEARS I COUNTED UP 33 
DIFFERENT ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS OF 
WEEKS AND DAYS IN JUST THE MONTH
OF MAY THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE.
I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE IF WE 
BECOME OF DOING THE SAME 
PROCLAMATION EVERY YEAR AND 
EVERY TIME, PERHAPS THERE'S 
OTHER MECHANISMS, MAYBE IT'S A 
RESOLUTION.
I RECALL THAT OTHER COUNCILORS 
MADE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY A 
PERMANENT DAY OF HONOR IN THE 
CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BY 
RESOLUTION.
IT'S ACKNOWLEDGED EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH 
OF US TO GO AND REMEMBER THAT 
THE AND SAY ALBUQUERQUE HAS DONE
THAT AND PRESENT THAT TO GROUPS 
TO REMIND THEM THAT THEY'RE WITH
THEM.
I'M OPEN TO THIS, WE'RE HERE TOO
LATE TOO OFTEN, AND THE BIG 
STUFF GETS PUT IN THE BACK.
THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE HERE FOR 
MORE SUBSTANTIVE THINGS FOR 
HERE.
AND THEY'RE STAYING HERE LATER 
AND LATER.
OUR OPTIONS ARE THAT WE START 
EARLIER OR WE MEET THREE WEEKS A
MONTH SO WE KEEP UP.
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE LESS
TENABLE THAN TRYING TO MANAGE 
OUR TIME.
WHAT I HEARD IS LET'S PROVIDE A 
WAY TO DO THAT IN AN EQUITABLE 
WAY.
LET'S ENSURE IT'S NOT THE 
MAJORITY OF OUR TIME WHEN THE 
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS 
TO AINTEND PUBLIC COMMENT RULES 
TO ACCOMMODATE EXTRAORDINARY 
CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THOSE HAVE 
GOTTEN TOO LONG.
HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO 
PROPOSE.
THERE'S ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT 
SOME OTHER FOLKS HAD OFFERED 
THAT MIGHT SAY WE JUST SET ASIDE
15 MINUTES IN EVERY AGENDA.
THAT SEEMED UNWORKABLE BECAUSE 
HOW MANY PEOPLE GET FOR EACH 
THING.
WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT, WE DON'T 
WANT TO CUT OFF CANCER SURVIVORS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING 
IMPORTANT TO TELL US.
I PROPOSE WE DEFER THIS FOR TWO 
WEEKS SO COUNCILORS CAN BRING 
OTHER IDEAS AND AMENDMENTS AND 
CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH STAFF 
ON A WAY TO DO THAT.
OUR INTENT IS CLEAR.
WE WANT TO ENSURE WE HAVE A 
SPACE FOR THIS AND WE WANT TO 
ENSURE WE GET TO REAL BUSINESS 
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE 
THE THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH 
ARE IMPORTANT.
PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOMELESSNESS.
THERE'S JUST A LOT TO DO IN THE 
CITY WHEN THAN IT WAS WHEN THE 
RULES WERE ORIGINALLY WRITTEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND 
FOR A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL AND 
WE'LL BRING IT BACK MARCH 
SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 
THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS 
AJOURNED.
-- ADJOURNED.
