

### Relationship With God:

### Qualities Of Truth, Reincarnation & Divine Love

### By

### Jesus (AJ Miller)

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### This ebook is a collection of Internet postings and letters to various people written by Jesus (also known as AJ Miller) between 14th December 2004 and 10th May 2007. In these postings Jesus describes the qualities of Divine Truth, in order to help people to determine what is truth in their own lives. He also answers questions regarding his identity and the teachings of reincarnation and Divine Love in the Padgett Messages, and how these relate to the Divine Truth regarding the reincarnation of the soul.

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Table of Contents

Preface

### Part 1: Qualities of Truth

1. Introduction

2. Absolute Truth Is of Itself, A Thing Apart, And Admits of No Variations Or Modifications

3. Absolute Truth Is Infinite

4. Truth and Love Are Always In Perfect Harmony, and Without Truth, Love Cannot Be Complete

5. The Individual's Knowledge of Truth Is Eternally Progressive

6. Truth Itself, With All The Power And Knowledge That It Has As Its Foundation, Will Not Compel A Man To Accept It Against His Will

7. Breaking The Law Of Truth Results In Penalties

8. Truth Does Not and Cannot Compromise, Even For The Sake Of Peace

9. Truth Results In Freedom

10. Truth Results In A Fearless Existence

11. Truth Does Not Hurt Anyone Or Anything

12. Truth Does Not Allow The Lie, No Matter What The Price

13. Personal Truth Must Be Faced Before Universal Truth Can Be Found

14. Truth Is Demonstrated By Actions

15. Truth Will Never Accommodate Itself To The Beliefs Of Men

16. Truth Is Felt

17. Conclusion

### Part 2: How Reincarnation Occurs

18. Summary

19. Introduction

20. The Padgett Messages

21. Spiritual Progress

22. Importance of Soulmates

23. Progress of Soulmates

24. Reincarnation

### Part 3: The Padgett Messages, Reincarnation & Jesus' Return

25. Introduction

26. What I Say

27. My Personal Condition

28. Truth and Love

29. Progressive Truth

30. God's Timing

31. The Padgett Messages

32. Pleasure and Pain

33. Pride

34. Reincarnation

35. Lamlestia's Message

36. Luke's Message

37. My Messages

38. Goliath's Message

39. Saelish's Message

40. Final Comments Regarding Reincarnation

41. Some Background

42. My Return to Earth

43. Summary

### Part 4: Incarnation and Reincarnation

44. Incarnation

45. Brain, Mind, and Feelings

46. Identity

47. Reincarnation

### 48. Part 5: First Response Letter to Cathy

48.1. Introduction

48.2. God's Nature

48.3. Learning From Personal Pain

48.4. Painful Experiences Not Chosen

48.5. The Soul's Pre-Existence

48.6. Reincarnation

48.7. Some Reasons Why So Many Believe in Reincarnation of All Persons For The Purpose of Soul Progression as Currently Taught

48.7.1. Reason 1

48.7.2. Reason 2

48.7.3. Reason 3

48.7.4. Reason 4

48.7.5. Reason 5

### Part 6: First Response Letter to Fred

49. Introduction

50. The Letter

50.1. Your Emotions

### 51. Part 7: Second Response Letter to Fred

51.1. Introduction

51.2. Personal Comments

51.3. Question 1

51.4. A Personal Note

51.5. Question 2

51.6. Question 3

51.7. Question 4

51.8. Question 5

51.9. Summary

### 52. Part 8: Dialog With Suzanne

52.1. Suzanne Wrote After Our Introduction to Each Other

52.2. AJ's First Response

52.3. Suzanne Wrote After Trying AJ's Suggestions

52.4. AJ's Response to the First Letter From Peter & Gabriel

52.5. Suzanne's Response to AJ's Further Request

52.6. AJ's Response to Second Letter From Peter & Gabriel

52.7. Suzanne Wrote In Response

52.8. AJ's Answer to Suzanne's Questions

Preface

The information contained within this document is still being edited, and is not a complete record of all of the things that I will be eventually saying about the subjects of Divine Truth, or the subject of reincarnation. However, many persons have asked questions about both subjects, and so I have placed some writings together in the form of this document.

The section "Qualities of Truth" discusses some of the primary attributes and qualities of God's Truth. Of course, it is not a complete reference to the Qualities of Divine Truth, but rather a very short summary that will assist you to recognize the truth as it appears in your own life. Divine Truth is the Truth that God has, and is absolute in nature, and this differs very much from our own personal truth.

The sections dealing with reincarnation are a collection of messages and letters that I have written over a period of 3 years that give a summary of the real process of reincarnation. Many religious philosophies on Earth do not allow for reincarnation to occur, while other philosophies teach reincarnation in many erroneous forms. The information presented will demonstrate that reincarnation can and has occurred, but the current Eastern and New Age doctrines of reincarnation are very much in error and disharmonious with Divine Love and Truth.

For all of the letters and emails I have included in this document, the names have been changed to help protect the identity of the letter writers.

I hope that you enjoy the discussion of both subjects.

With my love,

Jesus

Part 1: Qualities of Truth

1. Introduction

"You will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free!"

When Pilate was questioning me, just before my death, I made the above statement to him. In response, he said to me, "What is Truth?" Although my statement in some ways had already answered his question, in that real truth results in real freedom, if the circumstances were different, what additional things would I have liked to say regarding truth?

For many persons it may seem that it is a mere dream to believe that you can come to know the secrets and truth regarding life, the universe, and everything. Perhaps you have been seeking truth for much of your life, only to become disappointed with the result, and have grown tired of the journey. Or perhaps you have come to think that such a thing does not exist.

The Padgett Messages contain the Divine Truth, as written to the medium James Padgett (Ned to his wife), by persons who had once lived on the Earth, as we now do, but who are now various locations within the universe of God. If a person examines these messages in detail, an individual can come to determine the qualities of the truth.

Truth has qualities and properties which, when used as a yardstick to make a comparison, enable thoughts, feelings and actions to either be accepted as truth, or dismissed as falsehood. Once a person understands the properties and qualities of truth, and then uses this knowledge to search for truth, truth can be found, and once found, will result in that person experiencing such overwhelming feelings of happiness and joy.

So this process, besides being a logical and scientific one, is also a process involving feelings and emotions. Coming to knowledge of truth is dependent upon the individual seeking truth with all their soul, which is motivated by their desires and aspirations. Once knowledge of truth is their possession, the feelings of happiness and joy are only obtained by bringing oneself into harmony with the truth that is found.

The Law of Cause and Effect dictates that Truth can only act in certain ways, and there are certain actions impossible to do when the position of Truth is maintained. There are qualities, which when examined, demonstrate that a concept, an idea, thought or feeling must be the truth, and these qualities could be called the Qualities of Truth.

So the question, "What Is Truth?" is one of the most important questions a person can ask. When the Qualities of Truth are determined, and applied against the philosophies, knowledge and emotions of man, the Truth of the Universe can be found. And when found, Truth brings the most excelling happiness to its seeker.

So, I thought that it would be good to post a few threads for discussion, listing different Qualities of Truth as seen in the messages, and then taking comparisons and examples from modern day life to illustrate how each quality can be seen.

I have listed only 15, which I shall post in three separate threads, but of course there are many more.

2. Absolute Truth Is of Itself, A Thing Apart, And Admits of No Variations Or Modifications

This truth is stated repetitively within the Padgett Messages. "Truth is of itself, a thing apart, and admits of no variations or modifications, and, hence, the minds of men must submit to and embrace Truth; it will never accommodate itself to the beliefs of men. One is fixed and unchangeable, and the other is always changeable, and until founded on a knowledge of the Truth, will at sometime or other have to change, because in the end Truth will be established in the hearts and minds of men, so that harmony and peace shall reign in all God's universe."

This truth has been stated in the Bible at Eccl 3:11 (NWT); "Everything He has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite He has put into their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the True God has done from the start to the finish."

Absolute Truth is the domain of the Creator, our Father, and, since He created the universe, the physical universe seen by the mortal, the spiritual seen by the spirit, and the soul, seen by soul, He is the possessor of Absolute Truth.

Truth of this quality never needs modification or updating, since it is never incorrect or found to be wanting. It is complete within itself. If a belief needs to be modified or updated, then of course, although it may have contained some of the truth before its modification, it never was the full truth.

No other single entity in the universe of all of His Creation knows everything He has done, and therefore, no entity or soul other than the Creator is the possessor of Absolute Truth. Since this is the case Absolute Truth never changes throughout eternity.

3. Absolute Truth Is Infinite

Since the material of the visible universe appears infinite to the mortal, and the material of the invisible universe also appears infinite to the spirit, then it also follows that the truths contained within such an infinite universe must also be infinite in number.

So the question then becomes, how does a person with a seemingly finite mind, and a seemingly finite life, learn the seemingly secret truths of an obviously infinite universe. To such a person, the task seems totally impossible, a waste of one's limited energy and resources, and therefore, many make no attempt to even begin the process.

If one summarizes all of the Padgett messages, and then places the messages into a logical sequence of how the truth can be found, the way to search for truth can be narrowed down to the following concept.

Step 1 Find the Truth about God

Step 2 Find the Truth about myself

Step 3 Find the Truth about others

Step 4 Find the Truth about the universe

Now unfortunately many using this method of study never come to a true knowledge at step 1 (because they generally believe God to be a God of wrath), and generally attempt to skip step 2 altogether (because it is a very emotional process, which is often times painful and criticized by others).

Mr. Padgett was constantly encouraged to come into a personal relationship with His God, through the avenue of prayer, which is defined as the "longings of the soul". If a person understands what the "longings of the soul" are, and comes to His Father in this manner, after entering a personal relationship with His Father, more truths become known to him.

Mr. Padgett was constantly discouraged from finding other truths about other people or spirits, or of the universe, until he had found the Truth about his Father, had received His Father's Personal Love, and then concentrated on those things within himself he needed to avoid or overcome which prevented the deepening of that relationship.

Since he was now in connection with his Father, the Source of Absolute Truth, as he came into at-onement with Him, further Truth was revealed. Growth in knowledge of the secrets of the infinite universe is very fast using this method, and also, accompanied with that tremendous growth, is the overwhelming happiness knowledge of certain aspects of truth brings to the heart of man.

4. Truth and Love Are Always In Perfect Harmony, and Without Truth, Love Cannot Be Complete

The relationship between truth and love cannot be understated. This relationship is one of the most misunderstood concepts within the beliefs of man. True love is not possible without truth. The most powerful feeling within the universe, God's Love, cannot be felt without Divine Truth accompanying it.

The harmony of truth and love is the science of the universe, not just moral principals and guidelines by which to live, but also the engine room of the material and spiritual universe, and the source of all things.

From the birth of a human onwards, the child begins to seek the truth about its environment, and, if such a child continues to be taught the complete truth as its capacity can accept, it will continue its journey into complete happiness, because, as its knowledge of truth grows, so to will it come into a personal relationship with its own Father, and come to feel His Personal Love.

Happiness of an unlimited nature is only possible by believing, accepting, and then living the truth, and such is the result because love and truth are in harmony.

Throughout the Padgett messages, love and truth are constantly shown to exist together, and spirits in darkness were in darkness because they did not have the Love of the Father due to having no desire to exercise their own free will to emotionally accept the truth. Once truth is accepted, longings of the soul can be generated, and the Love of the Father will come.

However, man's concept of love is often flawed. Because of this, it is often thought not good to say the truth, since it may "hurt" someone, but this is not the case. If someone experiences hurt from the truth, then the hurt is the result of the belief of error within them and not because truth and love are out of harmony.

5. The Individual's Knowledge of Truth Is Eternally Progressive

Since Absolute Truth admits of no variations or modifications, Absolute Truth cannot and does not change. It will never accommodate itself to the thoughts and beliefs of men or women, and hence, the minds of humans must conform, submit to and embrace the truth before the human can be in harmony with truth.

Although Absolute Truth never changes, our personal knowledge of truth grows progressively, and is dependant on our own ability to grasp and understand. Throughout the Padgett messages, it was emphasized that spirits with high amounts of knowledge of truth and love did not know everything. Jesus said he was a "progressive spirit." A spirit when explaining portions of the truth used often the term "it is not yet known".

It can be stated that individual knowledge of truth cannot be anything but eternally progressive. (See point 3, the Truth is Infinite.) Since the truth is infinite, it is impossible for any single person, mortal, spirit, or soul, to state they know the full truth, unless that soul is the possessor of Absolute Truth, which of course, only the Creator of such a universe could say.

That the truth is progressive can be illustrated by a person's knowledge of sex. If a parent tried to teach a 2 year old child what sex is, there would be much confusion and perhaps even damage to that child should that child not be of the development to understand. For this reason, most children at that age may be aware that a child grows within its mother, but may not have a concept of sex.

A parent can certainly teach an 8 year old child the operations of sex, and demonstrate the effects of those operations as procreation, and that 8 year old will understand the operations, but perhaps not understand the desire of the part of its parents to do what it may think is such a vile thing. ("Ooh yuck, why would you want to do that?" I believe I have quite often heard.)

But a parent will have no trouble convincing a 16 year old teenager why this thing called sex is so enjoyable. In fact, the parent by this stage often is so concerned about the child wanting to experience it themselves, that many rules and regulations are set up by the parent to prevent such an event from occurring.

So, although the truths of sex have not changed throughout the centuries, or throughout our personal life, as a person grows and matures their personal knowledge of sex continues to grow and change.

From this we can illustrate that although the actual truth about any matter may be absolute and does not change, the individual's knowledge of the same truth is progressive, and does eternally change.

6. Truth Itself, With All The Power And Knowledge That It Has As Its Foundation, Will Not Compel A Man To Accept It Against His Will

A person can make a stand for truth but cannot, and I should say, because of truth's harmony with love, will not fight for truth. Truth will not compel another to accept it against their free will. A person living in truth refuses to compel a person who may believe, accept and live a lie to accept the truth against their will.

Again a message from Jesus;

" _While these feelings of discord must necessarily follow the advent of truth, yet I did not come for the purpose of bringing a sword, but for the purpose of showing men what the truths are and of causing harmony and belief in these truths. Never is hatred, nor discord nor war among men justified - no matter what the cause - and if men will only learn the truth there will never exist such feelings or acts."_

" _And because of the great gift of free will to man, truth itself, with all the power and knowledge of the Father back of it, will not compel a man to accept it against his will, and hence, as man is very fallible and thinks and believes according as his finite, mental faculties convince him that a certain thing is or is not true, he will not be willing to surrender his convictions until the truth shall come to him in such a way as to persuade him of its reality; and as men differ so much in the operations of their minds and reasoning faculties there will necessarily be a great division among them as to what is and what is not true. And hence there will arise disputes and hatred and even wars among them in maintaining their respective beliefs and opinions as to what is truth."_

It can be shown that personal truth in particular is of this nature. The more we "walk away from truth" in our personal life, the more difficult our personal life becomes. Hopefully, at some time, a person will notice how difficult their own life has become, and, in seeing the results of their beliefs, change and begin "walking towards truth." But often this does not happen, and the person walks even further away from truth, with the resultant increasing difficulties in their own life. But at some time the difficulties will be of such a nature and to such an extent as to cause so much personal pain in their life, and they then realize they have been living a life of error. At this point, many persons turn around, and being walking towards truth.

7. Breaking The Law Of Truth Results In Penalties

Truth is contained within every law of the universe, including those of a physical nature, as well as the spiritual and soul based laws. As man grows in knowledge of these laws, he comes to realize that every law carries with it a penalty for it's violation, and this applies to the smallest law in the material universe as well as to the greatest law in the soul universe, that is God's Love. Of course, because of the relationship between truth and love, love also is contained within every law of the universe.

Throughout the Padgett messages, laws of all sorts are discussed. It is shown by the discussion that, although mortal man may think certain laws result in penalties, such is not the case. Rather, all laws have a penalty for their infringement, whether those penalties are visible to man, or invisible.

Lets use the visible Law of Gravity as an example. If we stand on a high building and we jump off without the Law of Aerodynamics on our side, then we will probably die. We can also be on exactly the same building and be pushed off, with exactly the same result (death), but the cause of our death be not that we chose to do it, but that someone else murdered us by using this law. In one case, we were responsible for the decision, and we died, in another, someone else was responsible for the decision, but we still died.

So the Law of Gravity operates under all circumstances, and is not selective. It does not say, "Since that man was pushed, I will cease to operate because the result is not fair for the man because he was pushed." No, it operates on everything coming within its sphere of operation, no matter what the cause. We can chose to obey the law and there will be no penalty. But if we choose, or someone else forces us, or by accident we disobey the law, the penalty is the same.

Physical laws of a lower nature exist, such as the Law of Gravity, and we can see the effect and operations on those laws in the physical world, and physical laws of a higher nature exist, such as the Law of Aerodynamics, which under normal circumstances we cannot see, but can see the effects of and use on a consistent basis also within our physical world. Obviously also, since physical laws exist that have their effect on the material body, so to spiritual laws exist controlling the spiritual body (which is of a material, just not a material seen by the human eye), and the soul laws exist controlling the soul, the "real man".

So all laws, visible or invisible to man, result in a corresponding penalty if infringed, and that penalty is sometimes visible to man, but in more often times is invisible to man, and can only be seen by man after he enters the spirit world. This is a great truth presented within the Padgett messages.

For example, the person pushing another person off the building has broken a law, and caused someone else to break a law, but it seems at the time that the penalty for the lawbreaker does not exist. He seems to "get away with it." But there are others laws, invisible in nature, but of a higher degree of operation, which will result in the penalty being paid by that person.

The Padgett messages mention laws over and over again, demonstrating that law is a consequence of truth and love, and that there are laws that exist that are higher in operations than other laws. But each time a soul breaks the law, penalties arise from the event and are at work upon that soul.

8. Truth Does Not and Cannot Compromise, Even For The Sake Of Peace

Again quoting Jesus from the Padgett messages;

" _While the truth will cause a division, as I know, among men as to what the truth is, and may even separate and cause bitter thoughts and even hatred to arise in the souls of men towards their fellow men, and even brother may come to dislike brother, yet the accomplishing of such results was not the object of my coming to Earth and teaching the truths, but rather are they results of the unavoidable conflict between truth and error. Truth cannot compromise even for the sake of peace, and error will not submit or acknowledge its untruth so long as it can get any mortal to believe in and advocate it."_

Absolute Truth does not and cannot compromise, even for the sake of peace. For this reason truth may seem to cause divisions, but in fact, truth of itself does not cause such things. Truth is separate to error, and the presence of truth may cause deep feelings of resentment and even hatred to occur and arise in the souls of men who are in error towards their fellow men, and even brother may come to dislike brother. But such is the position of those in error, since those with truth will continue to love their brother who may be in error.

Those who love will come to realize that truth must be said in all situations, and in fact, a person who lives in truth will find it extremely difficult to withhold from being truthful in every situation. A person with such a love of truth will accept their death rather than compromise truth for the sake of peace. This was demonstrated in Jesus own life.

9. Truth Results In Freedom

The statement "The Truth will set you free" is one of overwhelming accuracy and persists during all areas of the development of the soul of man.

The Padgett messages again; "This love frees man from all law except the law of its own self - and when man possesses this love he is slave to no law and is free indeed." Since love and truth cannot exist apart, truth is the thing that allows this love to such an extent that true freedom is realized, then truth results in freedom.

Many examples can be given of this. A woman repeatedly beaten by her partner may be told by her partner that he loves her. So she attempts to believe this lie, and in doing so, chooses to stay with the man. She is in a prison caused by her own belief, thinking love would dictate she should stay. But if she faces the truth and sees that a person who loves her would never beat her, she now becomes free in her mind and no longer can accept this false belief. In addition, she is also free in her mind to see that her own love of self would dictate that she cannot allow this treatment to continue, no matter what the price.

Once she is free in her mind and can see the full truth, she now has the power to act, and can act no matter what the price, and upon acting will in all instances experience even more freedom.

A person may argue that if her partner is violent her actions may result in her own death, but, once the truth is known, death will not be seen as a major interruption to life, and in fact, many blessings can and do result from leaving the fleshly existence for a spiritual one.

10. Truth Results In A Fearless Existence

A fearful existence is the result of a person believing lies rather than the truth. In fact, if the accepting the belief results in a more fearful existence, then there is less truth contained within that belief, unless of course, the fear is already within the soul and being triggered by the truth.

For example, suppose a person believes they can only be saved from eternal punishment in a fiery hell by believing the death of Jesus saves them from such punishment, and that Jesus is God. Then there is a lot of fear associated with those beliefs.

As the Padgett messages say, there is no truth in such a belief, and this belief has caused untold misery on Earth and in the spiritual heavens. Often the messages show and demonstrate the pain and suffering of feelings and emotions experienced by a soul that has accepted the error caused by a false belief.

But what if the truth is in fact that belief in Jesus death does not save a person from punishment, and that he is not God? Or, even worse for the false believer, what if a belief in those things actually in itself results in darkness and suffering? How is a person who is living in the fear of eternal torment and damnation going to accept this totally different teaching? In such a condition, their fear will often prevent them from accepting the new teaching, even though the new teaching may in fact be the truth.

If a person who is a member of a religion decides to seek for more truth, and because of this decision, he is ex-communicated from his religion, and his friends who remain in the religion are taught to have nothing to do with him, then how can that religion have the Absolute Truth?

It is an undeniable truth, and in fact a Law of Truth as certain as the Law of Gravity in its operations, that although truth can never be changed for the lie, truth will also not prevent the seeker from seeking more truth.

This of course sounds very logical once it is heard, but in fact most religions on Earth teach that once you know the truth, there is no more to seek, and in addition, if you do seek anything more you are an apostate to the truth, and therefore under condemnation.

Such a teaching directly opposes the Law of Truth, which is that as a person comes closer to the truth in their belief, they will in fact be free to be able to seek for even more truth. Religion that opposes a person seeking more truth, or condemns a person to a fearful existence because of their seeking for more truth, cannot contain the full truth. As such it can be seen that although many religions of the Earth contain truths, it will be very difficult for a seeker of truth to find a religion on Earth that he can call the truth.

Truth always results in more freedom, and a less fearful existence.

11. Truth Does Not Hurt Anyone Or Anything

There is a common saying among mankind that "the truth hurts." Never has a more inaccurate statement been said regarding truth, and it continually astounds me that people should have such an inaccurate view of the truth.

The Padgett messages confirm over and over that falsehood hurts, and that the truth results in the releasing of that hurt, and after the release, happiness. Many times the effect of falsehood creating pain and suffering is emphasized.

Truth may seem to hurt and injure, but in fact, truth of itself does not cause hurt or injury. Injury and hurt results from error, lies and deceit. Truth will often seem to be accompanied by injury and hurt because truth exposes error and lies, and the person feels the results of such error and lies within their feelings and thoughts, becomes pained because of those feelings and thoughts, and may even feel that they did not really want to know the truth.

But the truth is always beneficial and never harmful, and until all men come to realize that fact, man will be plagued with strife and disharmony. The feelings that are often overwhelming, frightening, and distressing to man, which are a result of coming to know the truth regarding a situation, are the result of the injury caused by the belief of an error.

This is time and again shown within the Padgett messages. The truth that Mr. Padgett himself "was not of condition" to receive a message was always told to him, even when he thought he was of the correct condition. Mr. Padgett did not find this hurtful, even though others may have, because he was open to the truth.

Spirits were often referred to as a "failure" both by themselves and other spirits. This is not hurtful, because it is the truth. Many spirits stated unequivocally that they and others had taught and believed lies, and the spirits identified were not offended by such speech or writing because it was the truth.

Perhaps a good way to illustrate this is a committed relationship between a man and a woman. Lets say both parties believe the other to be fully committed to the relationship. This they believe to be the truth, and rest in the security and trust such a relationship may bring.

Then one of the parties may be sexually unfaithful. From that point error has occurred, and error always brings pain with it. If the unfaithful partner does not disclose the truth, error is then compounded upon error, which of course will result in even more pain.

The relationship is in error, since lies and deceit have now become the basis for the relationship continuing, and pain is going to be the result within the relationship whether both parties are aware of the deceit or not.

It is true that when the truth is exposed, the innocent party, often whether they love their partner or not, will feel the pain of coming to know the truth. But the pain is a direct result of the error, since if the error did not occur pain could not be associated with it.

Man, in his limited belief, may feel that it is better to not tell the truth regarding the act of unfaithfulness, but to do so results in error added to error, which will always have the result of increasing the pain and injury, both within that man, and within his partner. In all of these actions it is obviously not the truth that has caused the pain or hurt, but the act of unfaithfulness.

Many persons often avoid pain at all costs by not wishing to know or accept the truth, but, as they will find sometime throughout their existence, there is a penalty for choosing to believe the lie, as the Law of Truth dictates that happiness is not possible for the person who chooses to believe the lie by taking a position of denial.

12. Truth Does Not Allow The Lie, No Matter What The Price

Obviously truth and lies are opposites, and a person who lives in truth cannot lie. Many times you hear people say that there are "white lies," implying that a lie said to make a person feel good is in fact a "good lie." But in fact there is no such thing as a good lie, just as there is no such thing as a hateful love.

Within the Padgett messages, the spirits allowed to talk by his band of spirit protectors never told an untruth as far as its own belief. This was a pre-requisite of any spirit allowed to write a message using Mr. Padgett as the medium. Often, spirits with greater development would tell Mr. Padgett that the previous spirit's message, although said by the spirit in sincerity, was actually not the truth.

Also Jesus said;

" _The importance of these truths cannot be too forcibly placed before men for their consideration; and, when the time comes for them to pass over, the more they have pondered on and obtained a knowledge of these truths, the better will be their condition in the spirit world."_

But truth motivated by love also goes further, in that it will not even allow a person to believe the lie, or allow the lie to go unchallenged, if it is within the power of the person who knows the truth to prevent such a thing. Some people say that staying silent when you know and could tell the truth is not lying. But of course, such is not the case, since truth and love live in harmony, and love would dictate that a person who knows the truth will always inform the person who believes the lie what the truth actually is if they really love them and they are given the chance. Telling someone the truth is an act of love.

To put this in a practical situation of the partner who commits the error of being unfaithful. Perhaps a friend of the couple knows of the unfaithfulness, and is trying to decide whether to tell the innocent party about the affair. A friend who lives in the truth and who loves their friends will always tell the truth, even if there was a risk that the innocent party, in the desire to stay in denial, refuses to believe and terminates the friendship, or the guilty party believes that they were not a true friend, and becomes angry and resentful.

Truth will not allow the lie, even when there is a risk of any "friend," feeling so hurt by the suggestion of truth, terminates the friendship. A good friend who has the knowledge of truth will understand that loyalty to truth dictates that the truth seeker will be willing to pay the price.

There are many situations in life were the person, upon learning the truth from any source, decides to disbelieve because of the potential pain, and in the process of disbelief, becomes angry with the person telling them the truth. But, as has been previously shown, a person wishing to remain in denial is also choosing the lie over the truth, and, because of this is living in error and will create even more pain in their own life.

On Earth, becoming angry with a person saying the truth this is often referred to as "shooting the messenger." A person who decides to "shoot the messenger" rather than deal with the pain the original error may have caused is adding hurt to the original pain by compounding an error. The result will be more disharmonies in their own life. They are choosing error over truth, and such an action never results in more peace and harmony.

13. Personal Truth Must Be Faced Before Universal Truth Can Be Found

All of a person's internal thoughts and feelings that result from unresolved emotional pain, which I call their "personal truth", must be felt and released from their being before they can become in a condition to seek for and attain the universal truth, which will result in their unlimited happiness.

The Prayer, as provided by Jesus within the Padgett messages illustrates the importance of the individual's own beliefs about themselves having to be modified to obtain Truth.

For example; "We are Your children, and not the subservient, sinful and depraved creatures that our false teachers would have us believe." God's Love cannot flow to a person who believes they have no personal worth, because their personal belief is in opposition to the truth about God's Love.

Another example; "Let us have such faith as will cause us to know that You are our Father, and the bestower of every good and perfect gift, and that only we, ourselves, can prevent Your Love changing us from the mortal to the immortal." A person must allow himself or herself to be caused to know their Father, and that only they themselves can prevent His Love from changing them. If they do not understand this truth, the Love cannot come.

A further example; "Keep us in the shadow of Your Love every hour and moment of our lives, and help us to overcome all temptations of the flesh, and the influence of the powers of the evil ones, which so constantly surround us and endeavour to turn our thoughts away from You to the pleasures and allurements of this world." We must take personal responsibility to overcome temptations of the flesh, and if we do this, God will help us.

All of these things are "personal truths", in that we must take responsibility for ourselves and be willing to change and conform to a true belief before God's Love can flow to us.

This can be illustrated by looking at a person who has suffered from the terrible effects of childhood abuse. Often such a person refuses to deal with the truth of their own life, coming to acknowledge that their own parents, if they were the source of the abuse, did not and cannot love them.

Rather than believe this truth, and thus feel the sadness of their own emotional pain and release it, they may choose to hold onto the belief in their mind that their parents were good, or that they did their best. Such a person also then holds onto incorrect views of love and childrearing, and their own failure to face their own personal truth results in the rest of their own life being damaged.

Such a person remains in a position of pain, and with it anger, and often that pain and anger does not leave them all their own Earth life or beyond. Many times their life is then affected so badly that they themselves or the person they choose as a life partner abuse their own children, maybe not in a sexual way, but in the many other ways that result in emotional damage to the growing child.

This of course impedes their own growth, and also the growth and happiness of their beautiful children. In this way, the pain of the parent is visited upon the child, and many times this cycle continues throughout generations.

This pain, both the personal continuous pain of the parent, and the subsequent pain of the children reared by the same, could be avoided by the parent making a choice to emotionally connect with their personal truth.

In this way, many parents do not show love to their own children. So parents have such a large responsibility and must face, process and deal with their personal truth before they can expect the happiness that comes from knowing the universal truth.

Time and time again I have seen how a person attempts to find the universal truth, but also, at the same time, attempts to avoid the feelings associated with coming to feel and process their own truth. Since it is a law that two opposites cannot exist in the same thing (an attempt to accept the lie by not feeling the pain of their own error, and another attempt to find and accept the truth of the universe with its resultant happiness), disharmony and disappointment can be the only result.

Such is the unhappiness of the man attempting to seek for universal truth, but also, at the same time, attempting to deny the truth within their own life.

14. Truth Is Demonstrated By Actions

This is again an undeniable fact regarding truth, but one that many people ignore totally resulting in their own unhappiness.

Often within the messages it is stated that, "When a spirit comes to know the truth, they will realize their error", and once the error is realized, will change, and do things differently.

Lets continue with the example of the woman being beaten by her partner. If she understood that truth is demonstrated by actions, she would see that even though her husband says he loves her, his actions show that his claims cannot be the truth. The truth is that love precludes an act of violence of any kind, and if the woman could see that actions demonstrate the truth of the matter, she would see that in fact his claims are false, whether he believes them to be true or not.

We may believe that we can think and have a longing for something hurtful, and as long as we do nothing about the thought or longing, then there is no harm done. The Padgett messages disagree with this conception.

It is a well known fact that, if a person forms a longing for something by thinking about it in his mind, he will at some time, have developed this longing so much that he will convince himself that there is nothing wrong with his intention, and then in fact carry out the act. So the truth is exposed by actions based on the inner intention of that man, and the intention, which was initially a feeling, then a thought, has now motivated the action.

This operates in both a positive and a negative way. In a positive way, if a person really loves a friend, they will place that friend in an important position within their life, and make time to spend with the friend. So, the real intention of the person, or the truth of love, is exposed and demonstrated for anyone else to see.

In a negative way, a person may say they wish to give up cigarette smoking, since they understand that it is a harmful practice, and that they do not love themselves enough if they continue to abuse their own body. Such may be their statement, but if they continue to purchase the cigarettes, hide that they are smoking from others, and frequent locations such as bars, clubs and parties where others will induce them to continue their habit, the truth is exposed, and any outsider can see that they have no real intention of giving up the habit.

15. Truth Will Never Accommodate Itself To The Beliefs Of Men

Since real truth is fixed and unchangeable, and men and their thoughts, until founded on the knowledge of truth, will sometime or other have to change to come into harmony with the truth, truth will never be able to be modified to suit what men would like to believe.

Man can, and must if he wishes to be happy, conform his belief to the truth.

16. Truth Is Felt

Mankind often speaks of feelings as coming from the heart, and logic as coming from the mind. Although such is an over simplification of the actual workings of a man, it can be used to illustrate how truth, to be accepted, must be felt. In fact, if an idea or concept is said to contain the truth, but to believe it requires the removal of feelings of love from the individual, then the truth cannot be contained in such a concept.

Jesus said within the messages; "But the soul, as concerning man is a thing of itself, alone. A substance real, though invisible to mortals, the discerner and portrayer of men's moral and spiritual condition - never dying, so far as known, and the real ego of the man. In it are centred the love principle, the affections, the appetites and the passions, and possibilities of receiving and possessing and assimilating those things that will either elevate man to the state or condition of the Divine Angel or the perfect man, or lower him to the condition that fits him for the hells of darkness and suffering."

So the real man, the soul of the man, centers on its feelings, appetites, passions, longings and the love principle. All of these emanations of the soul are based around emotion, not thought. As such, the truth that operates on the soul is also centered on emotion and feelings.

For example, in so-called Christian religions, it is said that Jesus had to die in order for God to forgive the sins of man, and for man be reconciled to God. Jesus' death and blood, it is claimed, was necessary, since the first human couple lost the right to eternal life by an act of error, another act of error had to occur (that is, the death of a perfect man) in order for mankind to obtain what the first couple lost. This being the case, and since suicide is wrong, Jesus had to be tortured and killed in the manner in which he died in order for man to be saved.

Now if a person studied this so-called truth with their own feelings, and truly felt, as it is also claimed by the same persons, that God is a God of Love, then this so-called truth would be almost instantly dismissed from their consideration as the way for them to obtain a relationship with God. In fact, if a truly feeling person examines this teaching, then the feelings in his heart would rebel against such a belief.

This God demanded that His own loved creature die, and this creature it is claimed is His best beloved son, and then that others of God's sons and daughters had to believe in this death, and that no other way was possible in order for man to be redeemed.

If there is a God, and He is a God of Love, then why would He require the death and blood of His son, whom He loved, in order to right the wrong of another of His sons and daughters? Surely this is very unjust and unfair.

This is the same as saying that a earthly father, once he seen the wrongdoing of one of his sons, decided that the only way in which his anger would be satisfied, would be to have another son, whom he loves, killed, and then everything would be right again. For the father to kill his son would be wrong and against his nature, so he then required that others perform the sinful deed, and in performing the deed for him, they would be condemned.

To follow this absurd proposition to its logical conclusion, it was necessary in order for the debt to be paid that his son should die a most painful death, that another of his sons would become a traitor, that those who knew and hated his best beloved son would clamor for his death, and that the ruling authority would pronounce the sentence.

If all this was required, then why would this same unloving and unjust father condemn the actions of all these persons when really they did what he could not do? If he were fair and just surely he would rather have thanked them for their accomplishment of the deed.

And since the son was aware of the requirement, surely rather than saying to his father, "Forgive them Father, for they do not know what they do," he instead would have said, "I thank you Father that this can happen to me, that these people are doing these things for your benefit, and I can be the instrument of paying this penalty in this way."

To a person who feels, this teaching would be as abhorrent as it is illogical, and those who watched Jesus death will tell you, any person of feeling watching such an event could not but look upon it with distress and revulsion. It is also said that Jesus in fact taught such a belief, which the Padgett messages assure us he did not. Those who teach he said and believed such things not only misrepresent and slander Jesus, but also blaspheme their own Father.

So, as I have said, if an idea or concept is said to contain the truth, but to believe it requires the removal of feelings of love from the individual, then the truth cannot be contained in such a concept.

17. Conclusion

Obviously much more can be written about truth. But I was hoping in starting these threads different persons could add to them from their own life experiences, and demonstrate where they have found these Qualities of Truth within these experiences.

Part 2: How Reincarnation Occurs

18. Summary

In the different presentations I have delivered, I have talked about the teachings of reincarnation as they exist on Earth, and how they present an erroneous viewpoint of God, and of the reasons why painful experiences occur on Earth and in the spirit world. I have also presented a summary of how reincarnation actually occurs, and the following short summary outlines how reincarnation occurred.

1. The complete soul, in its initial condition, is the creation of God, is a combination of two halves, is without knowledge or experience of itself, is not able to exercise free will, and is not conscious of its own identity.

2. The soul incarnates into a spirit body, and a material body, by splitting into two halves, and then each half is attracted to a spiritual body and material body created by earthly parents during the act of sexual union.

3. The purpose of incarnation is for the soul to become conscious of its own existence, and this is the process called individualization. Individualization begins when the soul begins to become self-aware, and begins its memory of its experience.

4. As soon as incarnation occurs, the soul begins to become conscious of its own identity, and begins to exercise its own free will, and becomes aware of its own experiences, and so the process of individualization begins.

5. Each half of the soul has the choice of receiving Divine Love, and can choose to reject the personal relationship that God is offering to each of Her Children.

6. As each half of the soul progresses in the growth of their relationship with God, it also progresses in its relationship with itself, and begins to attract its soulmate, the other half of itself.

7. Each half of the soul can eventually go through a process of being "Born Again", which is a soul-based transition of becoming at-one with God. This occurs when the half of the soul has received Divine Love, and is living in harmony with Divine Truth to the extent that allows it to live in complete harmony with God. This causes the soul to be transformed from its natural condition into an angelic condition. This process occurs at the top of the 7th sphere, and this condition can be obtained on Earth. Entry into the 8th sphere condition is dependent on being Born Again, and becoming at-one with God. This was my condition on Earth in the first century.

8. Each half of the soul can continue to grow towards God by gaining further soul emotions and truths from God, and as it does, its condition of Divine Love approaches more closely that of God Herself. There are 14 more conditions of living above the 7th sphere condition, 14 dimensions or spheres where these souls continue to grow towards God, and towards each other.

9. At the top of the 21st sphere, also called the Celestial Kingdom, the soulmates have both learned the lessons of Divine Love which enable them to no longer require a spiritual body to envelope their own soul half, and they can combine together to become one again. This soul-union process can occur while the half of the soul is connected to its material and spiritual bodies, but the two soul halves now feel, and act, as one.

10. When they are in a condition of at-onement with God, and a condition of at-onement with each other, the complete soul (consisting of the two soulmate halves recombined) can choose to return to Earth and reincarnate. A soul half cannot reincarnate, since it is not in a condition similar to the state of the un-incarnated complete soul, and in fact, one half of the soul cannot exist without its spirit body.

11. Reincarnation began on Earth in 1962.

12. Initially, 14 people who have reincarnated (7 soulmate pairs) decided to return to Earth in the manner they have in order to teach these truths to mankind, and to help mankind through the coming changes occurring on the Earth.

13. Since the initial 7 soulmate pairs reincarnated, some other souls have reincarnated, but not with the same purpose as the original 14.

The presentation of the material that follows helps address some of the questions many people have had about reincarnation, and how this relates to the information contained within the Padgett messages, and the reasons why many humans and spirits still believe in the teachings of reincarnation as they are currently taught in Eastern and New Age philosophies. This information has been written over a period of three years, and as been put into one document for your convenience. Of course, there is much more to say about this subject, but for the moment, this may help address some of your own questions.

19. Introduction

Many questions have been raised with regard to my statements regarding the process of a soul-union (the recombination of the two soulmate halves), questions both in relation to the Padgett messages and the seeming contradiction of the Padgett messages and my teachings, and also regarding the so-called improbability of the soul being able to reincarnate. Also, some are asking, if it were possible, why would any soul wish to do it?

In addition, others who have believed in the reincarnation of the soul in the manner as taught by New Age and Eastern religious philosophies have asked questions about why the way in which they believe reincarnation to occur is incorrect. They feel there is a lot of evidence to support these beliefs. The purpose of this document is to place together most of the subject material that I have written over the past 3 years into one document so that many of these questions can be addressed.

This document may also assist you to understand the process the 7 soul pairs have had to go through by returning, and also demonstrate and answer some of your questions about the Laws of God involved in the incarnation process generally, and the reincarnation process in particular.

20. The Padgett Messages

Please bear in mind that it is not my intention to criticize your current belief here, but just to make a statement to you regarding things I know are facts. The Padgett messages are complete within themselves and will show the way for a soul to obtain God's Divine Love, and once that soul does, at some time it will come to understand the truth regarding progression, including the truths of reincarnation.

As I have said, there are answers to all questions about the reincarnation of myself and 13 others, but of course some may think these answers are not the truth, as many did when the messages were first delivered to Mr. James Padgett (Mr. Padgett). My intention to provide answers does not require belief in me, only belief in the truth as already presented by the original messages, since that is part of what will be taught. I love these truths that have been presented in the Padgett messages, otherwise, obviously, I would never have written them.

21. Spiritual Progress

There does seem to be a conception on Earth that, once the truth is known, then all of the truth is known, and there is no longer any need to seek more truth. Any who are true believers in the Padgett messages would not believe such a thing, because, as stated in a message from myself, I continue to progress in knowledge and in God's Love, and I termed myself in the messages a "progressive spirit".

Since the material of the visible universe appears infinite, and the material of the invisible universe also appears infinite, then it also follows that the truths contained within such an infinite universe may also be infinite in number. Since this is the case, any reasonable person would see that there is a high likelihood of further truth being found, since, in the universe of the material, the spiritual, and the soul, no soul has yet found any limitations, and it is my expectation that no soul ever will.

All of you would be aware as students of the Padgett messages that laws govern the universe of God. Since the universe is infinite as far as it appears, then it also follows that the laws governing the universe could also be infinite in number. These laws of course are of such a progressive nature that they encourage all persons to progress, whether they are encased in a mortal body, a spirit body, or soul only (as are those souls yet to incarnate).

Thus it can be shown that the messages as given to Mr. Padgett cannot be the absolute truth, which is never subject to change, because, only God knows now, and forever will know, the Absolute Truth. All we can do, as lovers of Him, is to continue to ask Him for more of His Love, and as we do, our knowledge of His Truths will continue to grow.

God in His Unlimited Wisdom has made this the case. To any soul who progresses in His Love, His knowledge is also given, and, on the other hand, to any soul not progressing in Love, His knowledge is withheld. Understanding and utilizing Divine Truth is dependent on receiving Divine Love into the soul. He does this because any soul who does not possess His Love to a certain degree cannot be trusted to use the power that the knowledge of God will give him, otherwise anarchy would result in His Creation. Only those with a sufficient amount of God's Love are able to use the knowledge that such Love brings.

It has always been a belief of my own that, no matter how much knowledge or love that a spirit possesses, there will always be more love and therefore more knowledge to attain, since in an infinite universe, that is the only possibility. I made this statement in the Padgett messages, and it is also written in the Bible in Eccl 3:11 (NWT); "Everything He has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite He has put into their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the True God has made from the start to the finish."

So, all those who love God, and have received of His Love to an extent large enough to understand with their soul perceptions that everything He has done is infinite, now begin with the finite capacity they have to understand that no matter what they progress to know, there will always be more to know.

This being the case, we can assume that I and the other Celestial angels with me writing the messages to Mr. James Padgett in the first century have progressed further, and therefore have much more knowledge than that knowledge delivered to Mr. Padgett. But, these additional truths would not change the truth already known and presented as to the Way to God's Love. Obviously, receiving Divine Love to the point of becoming at-one with God is not dependent on our accepting emotionally the teaching of reincarnation, since there are many spirits, including myself, who did not accept the teaching as taught on the Earth before we were in a condition of at-onement with God in the spirit world. However, anything as to the future, or future conditions, were presented as not known, or, often as it was said in the Padgett messages; "as far as it is known, and it is our belief".

Since no spirit who has never experienced the soul-union state had or has ever reincarnated, then it could be stated, and it still can be, that reincarnation is impossible for a spirit not in that condition. However, since at the time of writing the Padgett messages, no spirit had ever progressed beyond the spirit world into the soul-union state, it could not be known if such a thing could occur in a future time. Also, since reincarnation as taught by all the teachings on the Earth suggests that such a reincarnation occurs to enable the progression of the soul, and, as it is known by all Celestial spirits, progression of the soul is possible without reincarnation; there is also no need for such a thing to occur, and, in the Economy of God, unless there is a need, such a thing will never take place.

Since no spirit had progressed above the Celestial Kingdom at the time of writing the Padgett messages, no spirit would know what possibilities were available to the soul in any location that the soul had not visited yet, and therefore could not teach such a possibility to others. And just because a spirit in the Celestial Kingdom could not conceive of any purpose that would allow a reincarnation to occur, it does not mean that such a purpose would not exist. Also, once the spirit came to have the knowledge that it did not previously possess, it is a possibility that its longings may change to such a degree to want to make the effort to do something that was previously thought unlikely or undesirable.

All of the above things could be seen by a logical mind. So what I would like to do now is explain how such a thing as reincarnation becomes possible, and then explain why such a thing may become desirable.

22. Importance of Soulmates

Those on the Earth may not have noticed it, but in the spirit world much knowledge was gained by the transmission of the messages to Mr. Padgett, by those spirits who gave him the messages. By observation, many things were learned. In particular the importance of the following things were discussed.

1. How important is a soulmate to the progress of the soul?

2. What is above the Celestial spheres?

3. How does one go above the Celestial spheres?

Of course, there were many other questions, but the effort was made to answer all these questions. One thing about myself is that I never stop wanting to progress towards my Father. Of course, all of us that have returned now have this feeling that we never want to stop progressing, and you will find us always desirous of progress, and humble in our thirst for more, when we are in our pristine state. And so, of course, I have taken the lead, encouraging all to ponder over these matters, investigating with humility, listening and feeling everything presented. To me, everything God has done is simple to understand from the perspective of the soul, not mystical as some desire, but practical and economical.

You will notice that a large proportion of the Padgett messages revolve around messages given to soulmates. Many who read these messages may be tempted to skip over their content, believing them to be more like love letters, which of course they are, than messages that contained much "truth". But, for those who have had their soulmate next to them, there is a realization of how important their soulmate is to their own happiness, and therefore, these messages are some of the most important to that person.

As a short revision, think about the development of the soul towards the Celestial Kingdom. Firstly God creates the soul "in his image." It is made of two parts, "male and female." Each part gains its own individuality. Each part must "cast off the mortal body" to enter the spirit world, and of course, this is natural. Each part, sometime in its own progression, comes to know the Father, and then receives the New Birth via the Holy Spirit. As its progress continues the mind of the spirit comes into the soul, and the soul only guides all of that spirits intentions. When that spirit no longer thinks within the mind, and is now in the soul completely, and the Father's Love has wiped out all sin and error, the spirit (which is still one half of the complete soul), is now in supreme happiness and safety and enters the Celestial Kingdom.

But its soulmate may be in the depths of hell.

With the knowledge that comes to the redeemed spirit, it realizes that its happiness also depends on its soulmate coming to the same condition of happiness it itself has obtained. And so, as one of that spirit's highest priorities (please understand that this is not looked upon as labor, but rather as its joy), the spirit wants to both know its soulmate, and assist its soulmate in soul development until it too becomes a redeemed spirit. So that spirit goes and seeks its soulmate, and in seeking finds its soulmate, whether it is still in the physical body or otherwise, attempts to assist it to make the effort to progress.

Of course, eventually, the soulmate makes this effort, and with all the joy and happiness that only a soulmate can have for its partner, eventually joins its mate, and an even more complete happiness is theirs. So now the soulmates are with each other always, except of course when they are performing God's work, and even then, many times, they do this together, since they have a longing for each other, and God never asks us to do something that will make us unhappy.

23. Progress of Soulmates

So the question then becomes, how do these progress? And what is above the Celestial Kingdom?

As they come closer and closer to the Father, they each become closer and closer to each other. Although they retain their individuality, their desire and longing for each other continues increasing, and, bit by bit, they begin merging in their energy and desire. In this, they still retain their individuality. But each are aware of the other's thoughts and feelings, even while they are not with them physically at times (the spirit world, as the messages indicate, is matter of the material, and to a spirit, contact with a spirit is similar in expression to a person in an earthly body having contact with another. A spirit takes another "in its arms" for example, just as a person in an earthly body may do - it's just that the body is not of the same material as the physical).

So, these soulmates come closer to each other, in mind, spirit body, and eventually in soul. This occurs to such a point that, as they progress towards the highest region of the Celestial kingdom, they come to understand completely what it means to be one soul, but with two halves, one individuality made up of two experiences, one person in two bodies (as Aristotle says), each making up a half of the complete whole.

Then a "great change" occurs, processed in synchronization by the two soul halves. The soul halves now connect to each other fully, becoming one with each other. The experiences, emotions, desires, intentions, passions, longings all merge into one complete unit. The spirit bodies of each, as it were, can be cast off, no longer being required for the existence of the half of the soul, because each half has now become part of the complete soul. If that choice is made, the spirit body then disappears in that it becomes of the matter of the universe, just as the mortal body did when the silver cord disconnects the mortal from the spirit.

In the messages it is stated that, "as far as it is known", the spirit body will never die, and "as far as it is known", the soul cannot exist without the spirit body. Such truths are truths for the spirit body while it continues as the clothing for the half of the soul.

Now, what is left is only soul. This complete soul has powers indescribable in nature to those on Earth, or in the first 7 spheres of the spirit world. That soul, which the Creator made as one, which split into two individual halves to gain individuality, is now complete again, but now with individuality, perfect within itself, full of the Love of God, and its knowledge of the Father is that of a child. The soul who understands how to move beyond the Celestial Spheres, and into the soul world where the Father resides, understands but a few things - that they are now a child not far beyond the time of their birth, and they are now in a position to be truly taught by their Father. It is just the beginning! And yet, many of the secrets of the universe which men with their ponderous minds have searched for thousands of years are known by that same child, but they are considered as nothing compared to their Father's Love and Company, and the things they know their Father will now show them.

They have merged with their soulmate, and have become at-one with them in soul, and, since they have both their Father's Love, being at-one with Him, and the love of their own soul mate, and are at-one with them, they are now complete, in the state in which they were originally intended, harmonious, blissful, but still only a child with individuality.

They are now in the "world" that can see all other "worlds", the "soul world", no longer being seen by spirits unless choosing to make themselves seen by coagulating matter in a form that can be seen by other spirits, but seeing spirits, unseen by mortals, but seeing mortals, and really can only be felt by a mortal or spirit's soul perceptions. Of course, communication is possible, since in God's Perfect Way, the higher a soul progresses, the less limitations exist for that soul, and it has greater powers of communication and expression. But the reception of such communication is only possible by those who have developed themselves in God's Love so that they can communicate with God, or God's children at-one with God.

And this soul now knows and can see in operation what others only guess, or have faith is occurring, and that is that the entire universe within its conception runs on, and is controlled by the Immense Power that is the Love of God. It is the Highest Law, because it is the Mechanics of the Universe, that seen and unseen.

And it is also at this point that the possibility of reincarnation becomes a reality if that complete soul chooses to experience it. Before then, reincarnation is only a theory, and impossible to perform unless this state of soul-union is reached.

Now I have possibly given you much to think about, and have gone a little way to explaining the possibility of how a "reincarnation" could occur. Please bear in mind though, that any "reincarnation" is not for the purpose of the progression of the soul, and as stated in the messages, a reincarnation for the purpose of the soul's progression will never occur, since the soul can progress without reincarnation. Also, a soul in a spirit body cannot reincarnate, since that soul is actually only one half of the real soul, and a spirit body cannot enter or exist in the "soul world" from where a reincarnation is only possible.

But the real question, though, is not whether a reincarnation is then possible, but "Why would a soul in such a condition of happiness and bliss, even choose to reincarnate? And, how much emotional pain would be experienced by such as soul?"

24. Reincarnation

Once the soul (whether half of the complete whole, or the whole) is possessed of Divine Love, there is no force that can remove that Love from that soul. God would never do so, and nothing of His Creation has enough power to perform the task.

However, remember that the spirit body is the soul's connection to the spirit world, and the spirit body's condition is a reflection of the soul condition contained within. Also, the physical body is the soul's connection, via the spirit body, to the physical world, so the physical body is a reflection of the spirit, and the soul contained within. Under the perfect conditions our Father first created, the parents were perfect, and the child's soul placed within the mother at the time of conception would also have been clean and without defilement, as it was created by God. Under those conditions, there would be no damage caused to the child by its parents, and such a child would have the best chance to grow to maturity as a perfect being.

In my own case, Joseph and Mary were imperfect, and the only way that I could be made perfect in the 1st century was for me to be begotten (as it were) by Holy Spirit, so at the time of birth, when the imperfections contained within my mother could no longer influence me (after the umbilical cord was cut), God through His Holy Spirit, cleaned the defilement of the imperfection by causing His healing energy to enter me to such an extent that the sin and error were wiped from me. In this way, I became as a child of parents who were perfect, and born of Holy Spirit. This is the same soul condition that Amon and Aman, the first human couple to incarnate onto Earth, had at the time of their incarnation. I had not received Divine Love yet, but I had been cleared of all of the emotional error, which would normally be inherited.

This being the case, it can be seen how a parent's condition can affect the child, since, although under perfect conditions the child's soul is clean and without defilement, as it was created, when the soul incarnates into the spirit body and physical body at the time of conception, it now lives within the body of its mother, and from now on the soul to a certain extent is damaged by the condition of its parents, not just from the genetic material contained by both and provided for the creation process, but particularly from the emotional state of its parents and the general soul condition of its environment, but also from the actions taken by the parents during gestation, and after the child's birth. Luke explained this fact in a message regarding the generational sins of the parents in the Padgett messages.

So, unfortunately, because of man's sin, the soul of the child, although without sin when created, upon incarnation, is now feeling the effects of the sin of those generations before. In God's Economy, there was no need for another soul to be born without sin, since I had responded as the perfect son in a human sense, and developed myself to such an extent that I also responded to God's Love, and was the first to experience the New Birth, and therefore became the Way, the Truth and the Life. But any soul that could reincarnate now understands that, if the choice is made, the sins of the parents, as is the law, will affect their soul as soon as the incarnation takes place, and thereafter, in much the same manner as the perfect soul of the child has been affected.

When a soul enters a spirit body and fleshly body, through the process of conception, the mind of the spirit and therefore the brain of the flesh, cannot recall the things of the soul. In the case of an un-individualized soul there is no effect, since the soul itself is not conscious of its own identity, and the soul obtains memories and events from the time of conception, and all of these memories are new, and progressively provided to the unborn, and then the born child, in the loving way provided by the Father.

But in the case of an already individualized soul, during the process of reincarnation the soul is conscious of its own identity, and its identity is different to that which now comes to its consciousness during its life from the time of conception onwards. For this reason, much confusion sets in, since the mind contained within the spirit body is out of harmony with the soul's feelings. As can be seen and illustrated, any disharmony between the mortal, spirit and soul causes disease. When all the three parts of man on Earth are in harmony, and also in harmony with God's Laws, then disease cannot exist.

Many of those who currently feel they have reincarnated could not explain to you how such an event has occurred, since for these ones, it has not occurred, and their "reincarnation" is only the surrender of their own mind (which is the mind of the spirit body, and in which the belief will remain until they realize the truth of what they have done) to the control of spirits around them who do not respect their precious gift of free will.

But in the case of the reincarnated soul, there is a consciousness of how this all occurred, but also much internal distress, because the soul now lost its closeness with the Love of the Father (due to leaving the location where it was in His presence, and due to the sin and error of its parents), and lost its love relationship with its soulmate (because of the separation from its soulmate to incarnate). These two things alone cause it much grief and sadness. But it also has so much internal disharmony due to the disbelief of its own mind (the mind within the spirit body, and the spirit body's senses) as to its own identity, that the spirit part of the person, in which the mind of the spirit is contained and also the spirit's senses lives in a condition of fear and confusion. And unless the love is greater, fear will rule. Unfortunately, because of the Law of Attraction, spirits in fear are attracted to this young person, who is in fact a soul of long standing, and the damage then becomes greater.

So, you can see that reincarnation into the current Earth environment can be very damaging for the soul. The question then becomes, why did God do this? And the answer is that God did not do this, except that His Laws allowed for it to occur. God would not force a soul in supreme happiness to leave that place of happiness, and come to a life with the potential of despair. The soul itself must make the decision, and, since it is still free, because of the most loving gift of free will, it can do anything it wishes, but within the boundaries of God's Laws.

So what would motivate the choice to be made? Once a soul is in such a condition of bliss and knowledge, it of course has even more love for its brothers and sisters. Its love, although not God's Great Love, is of Its Essence, and still motivates the soul to want to help and assist others to come to understand the supreme happiness that such a condition obtains, which is only possible by God's Love. In addition, it sees the opportunities available to it in teaching its brothers and sisters, and since this soul only lives in the realms of choice and opportunity, it does not consider failure as a possibility, as it is not.

So the choice involves a temporary sacrifice, and, as can be seen from descriptions regarding the Celestial spheres, a spirit is only happy when making other spirits even more happy. So it wants more men to be able to experience this Love to the extent that it has, and so it comes, choosing a short time of unhappiness and despair, but knowing that its Father, and Celestial brothers and sisters would care for it, and lead it back HOME.

It also realizes that a second opportunity is open to better understand the minds and hearts of persons who have been damaged that are constantly seen in the world of both men and spirits. And, since the second death of the soul has not yet occurred, there is in fact an even greater urgency for men and spirits to become the redeemed sons of their Father, since that time is approaching. In the Padgett messages, spirits explained the way to God's Divine Love from the standpoint of a spirit, but now, as normal humans, with all of the sin and errors experienced by humans, the soul can explain the Way to God's Love from the standpoint of a human.

So, yes, the reincarnated soul must pray for God's Divine Love, as you need to do. The fleshly body and spirit body must be brought again into harmony with the soul, and this takes time because the healing process for both bodies takes time. As you would know, the cells of the body contain imperfection, and the process of praying for God's Divine Love removes such imperfection in a gradual process so as to not harm the body, and the same could be said of the spirit body. Once all three are in harmony, then we are ready. But until then there is preparatory work to perform.

So hopefully this has explained to you how reincarnation is possible, and why a soul in such a blissful soul-union condition may return. But, as has already been stated, we do not expect belief, and we have a work to perform, and it will be done.

With My Love

Jesus

Part 3: The Padgett Messages, Reincarnation & Jesus' Return

25. Introduction

Hello Everyone

I hope this letter finds you all well and happy. I wanted to write a general letter to many of you, and also perhaps answer some more questions for you personally. Since many are asking the same questions, I thought a general letter would be the best way to get this information to you. Originally this letter was in three parts, but I have made it one document.

Some have been asking questions in relation to the Padgett messages and whether these messages preclude new teachings. On the Divine Love forum, many members have become very angry at the thought that Jesus is on Earth again, and not in the heavens as they expect. There is also a general feeling that the Padgett messages preclude reincarnation of the soul, and the return of Jesus in a visible form. In addition there is an opinion on the forum that I have developed a Messiah complex due to abuse some have assumed I have suffered as a child.

There are of course many other opinions that are generally based on what people call "reading between the lines" of the things that I have said, and so already there are assumptions being made between what I mean and what I say. So I would like to discuss some of these thoughts with all of you.

26. What I Say

The first thing I would like to talk about is what I have said. Humans can only interpret things that have been said from the basis of their own emotional development, rather from the basis of the emotional development of the person making the statements.

For this reason, persons with emotional hurt and damage will often interpret and feel that truth being presented to them is something that is offensive. I, of course, have experienced this in its full fury in the first century, and I expect to experience the same things from different ones now as well.

In the first century, when I stated that I am God's son, it was then interpreted that I was making myself the same as God, which is obviously not the case. But ones wished to believe that this is what I said, and in believing this, they allowed their anger and resentment to rise to such an extent that they considered murder acceptable.

There were of course many other instances where those who wished to retain their position of power, or others with emotional damage and hurt wished to silence the truth because it was not in agreement with what they believed, and in the end, these ones had, what appeared to themselves at the time, a success by causing my death.

But, I have said only what I have said, no more and no less, just as I did in the first century. I make no implications to others, and only state the facts as I know and understand them at the time. Any implications inferred are by ones who wish to imply things as their own development and level of spiritual progress causes them to desire. Of course, in my current condition, I have less Absolute Truth available to me than in my pristine condition, and this issue will be remedied as I release emotions that have become a part of my 20th century experience.

I am the Way and the Truth and the Life only in the sense that if ones listen to my words and apply them, they will become closer to their Father as I desire to be myself. As a person, I am not important, but the truths I teach, these are important, not because I say they are, but because a person must follow these truths if they desire a closer personal relationship with their Father. This has been proven time and again by the events that occur in the spirit world on a daily basis.

These truths are truths others and I have learned, and we know from experience that they are the way to life. They are God's Truths, and belong to Him. Any who wish to dispute them can do so, since they have free will, the precious gift God gave them, to do anything they wish. But if they do so, they will find their own progress will stagnate, since only those who come to their Father in "Spirit and Truth" can receive of His Love more bountifully. They only dispute God's Truth, and they set themselves up in opposition to His Truth, and so their own soul development can only stagnate.

I am not, never have been, and never will be "all knowing", since only my Father has such Knowledge and Wisdom. He is the Source of All Things, and we as His Highest Creation can come to know the Truth if we progress in His Love, but we will never know all, since our Father is the Creator, and we as His Creation will never come to know everything He has done. We can only marvel at the things He does, and be amazed at every new discovery we make of His Wonders.

Any who assume that I knew everything when my soulmate and I were the first to enter the Soul Kingdom would be in error. Although my soulmate and I knew what no other person did, we were conscious that what we knew of God and His Universe was of such insignificance compared to what there was to know. We had only been in conscious existence for 2000 or so years (as we humans count time), and compared to the existence of our God, this is but a few days of time. How can a child, just a few days old, know what its parent knows?

My mind and brain as Alan John Miller is not yet capable of understanding and accepting everything that I know in my soul. There is 2000 years of existence to come to remember in a short period of time. My spirit body and material body that I now possess was not with me during these 2000 or so years of development before we entered the Soul Kingdom, and so it has not had this experience that my soul, and my soulmate, have experienced. So, both my mind, which is of the spirit body, and my brain, which is of my material body, must make adjustments, since both my spirit body and my material body are only 44 years old, and all of the 14 of those who have returned will experience the same things.

This will continue to be a gradual process since our mind and brain could not presently cope with the amount and extent of knowledge and feelings we have in our soul if it were presented in an instant manner. Also, I know, understand and trust that my Father will give me the things I need when I need them, and that my body, mind, and brain will become ready as He completes my development with His Love.

I am not offended or upset if you do not wish to believe these things I am saying. I know them to be true, and will be able to demonstrate these things to you when the time comes for doing this.

27. My Personal Condition

Many on the internet have assumed by what I have said that I have been abused as a child, and because I am now going through the process of recovery, I have somehow gained a "Messiah complex" and now feel that I must be Jesus because of this.

Now for this to be the case, all 14 of those who have returned would have to have the same feelings as I do, and would need to have come from the same state of mind. Since we live all over the world, this event alone is very unlikely. Also, I did not say that all of us had experienced child abuse, but rather, that some had. I personally have not, although my memories of the torture I received the last day of my life in the first century were in my memory as a child, and I did assume that these events had occurred sometime within my current lifetime. Since I have recently had a period of reliving these events, I now understand that these feelings belong to the first century.

I did say; "A few have experienced severe child abuse." This is the truth, that some have experienced abuse as a child. They will have to deal with this emotionally and are currently doing so.

28. Truth and Love

I have no wish to hurt or condemn anyone, and all of you who are coming to know me well understand this about me. You also will see that I am loyal to the truth, and I know that truth and love cannot exist independently from each other. I also know that my Father is of the same opinion, and this truth is shown in its complete detail within the Padgett messages.

When a person examines the Padgett messages, it can be seen that many spirits have testified to the problem of false beliefs, and how these beliefs impeded their personal growth in the Love of God. A person in all sincerity may have a belief that is false, and their sincerity does not allow the reception of God's Divine Love into their soul unless it is in harmony with truth.

Only longings of the soul harmonious with Divine Truth will allow our Father to give us His Love. There are many reasons why this is the case, and I will not go into that now. As His Love comes to us, we are personally faced with "issues of truth", which we either will accept or reject, depending on many personal factors. If we choose to reject this truth, then we will remain with misconceptions regarding many matters, including the nature of our God, and this will cause stagnation in the growth of His Love to occur within our soul.

So truth is essential to the soul wanting to progress. This is the reason why I wrote the "Qualities of Truth" and posted that document on the Divine Truth forum on the internet, and have also included this information at the beginning of this document for you to read.

There seems to be a conception of many within the Divine Love movement that truth can be ignored in preference for love. But truth and love go hand in hand, and one cannot be ignored for the sake of the other. In fact, if during our own attempt to progress we ignore truth "for the sake of love," then we will neither progress in truth nor love. Also, if we deny the truth when it becomes consciously available to us, then we also are denying the flow of God's Love into our soul. Both conditions will cause the stagnation of the soul.

29. Progressive Truth

For these reasons, a person who grows in God's Love will at times be presented with truths from God, and these truths may be quite difficult for the person in their condition to accept at the time.

But, a soul with God's Love understands the nature of truth, in that truth is always progressive for a creation of God. God himself is the only one who knows the full extent of truth, and we are just in the process on gaining knowledge about everything He has done.

So, for ourselves, truth is always progressive, and we must at some point come to realize that what we think we know is not all of what there is to know. In fact, it would be accurate to say at this time that what we know is insignificant compared to the full amount of Truth that our God possesses. This applies to all of us, from the soul just incarnated to a soul who has lived in both the Celestial and Soul Kingdoms of God.

The Padgett messages state this fact over and over again, and many of the messages we wrote indicate that there are things that we did not know at the time, and they were yet to be revealed. Even the true final condition of the soul was unknown, because we had thought for many centuries that further development was unavoidable, and that God, in His due time, would show us the way.

30. God's Timing

God has His timing. He knew that once those of us who had spiritual development could reach the Kingdom of the Soul, that we also then had the potentiality of returning to the Earth if that was our wish and desire. He also knew that, since we had a large amount of His Love in our souls, once we did reach the Soul Kingdom, there was a very high likelihood we would desire the opportunity to return to Earth and teach the truth to the rest of mankind, since our love for mankind would motivate that action.

So then, the question would come, when would be the best time for this to occur? If we look at this question carefully, we can see that the best time would be when mankind was technologically advanced enough to allow for communication throughout the world of the return, but no so advanced that they had entered a period of major damage due to the same technology. Those who have returned know that we now live in such a time.

If man does not begin to mend his ways very soon, then the damage he is now doing to the Earth and has been doing for 1000's of years will result in cataclysmic upheaval, just as it has in the past, and potentially wholesale destruction of the human race (again as it has happened in the past) could have occurred, which is obviously not part of God's plan. We have seen recently how these natural disasters can affect many nations at the same time. Also, there are spiritual reasons for our return that far out way the material.

Since our Father knows what is best, He knew the best time for the return. It was also important that not just myself and my soulmate return, but that others of similar development also return, since then mankind could no longer think that Jesus is God, but rather that all of those returned are just His Children, but with soul development due to the reception of Divine Love into the soul.

31. The Padgett Messages

I have been emphasizing to all of you that the Padgett messages contain the truth, and this truth, when understood and followed, will lead the soul into God's Divine Love.

However, the Padgett messages are not a comprehensive index of all of the Truth of God. Since God's Truth is infinite, it therefore follows that it is impossible for man or spirit to develop an exhaustive reference of His Truth.

For this reason there are many subjects that are not included in the Padgett messages. We decided to only include the subjects that would show man the way to the Divine Love, and many other subjects could not be covered. There are many reasons why this is so, and the primary one of those was that there was no one on Earth with the development of Mr. Padgett at the time, and since he was aged, there was a limited time frame for the delivery of these messages.

Of the subjects that could not be covered were those truths that would be considered speculation on the part of Celestial spirits. These matters were not as important as the truths already known, and so they could not be presented. Also, there is always a tendency of man to assume something is fact even when it is stated that is a speculation only, and there were dangers in presenting speculation as part of the book of truths.

And so, it must be understood by all but the most unreasoning of minds that the Padgett messages could not contain all the truth for many reasons, and also could only contain truth as it was understood at the time. Since that time was over 90 years ago, much more truth is available to Celestial spirits, and, if there were persons on Earth with the appropriate soul development to receive such truth, this truth would also be given to man.

32. Pleasure and Pain

It is plain that many who believe themselves to be experts in the field of understanding the Padgett messages have little understanding regarding the development of the soul, and they have developed their mind only, which seems to be the preference of many of mankind.

The reason for this is simple. To man there are basically two feelings, pleasure and pain. It is the nature of man to avoid pain at all costs, and focus on the feelings of pleasure whenever possible. Now, if all men were as perfect as mankind was at the time of the creation of the first parents, pleasure would not lead man into sin, since it would be seen that true pleasure is always in harmony with God's Laws. This of course includes the pleasure of sexual intimacy. So, under the perfect conditions created by God, there would be little pain to attempt to avoid.

But mankind is not in that state, but rather is in a state of various degrees of sin and error. And the world that he has created has focused on pleasure to the point of bringing mankind into disharmony with God's Laws. It has become very difficult for man to obtain "pleasure" without also entering a state of disharmony with God's Laws.

Since most people have within them the effects of sin and error that attach themselves to the soul in the form of emotions, it also follows that pain also exists within them as well. Since people also generally do not want to deal with pain (either than of a physical or emotional nature), most have a tendency to avoid the pain where possible. For this reason, many live in their mind only, in a position of denial of their own feelings.

If we choose to deny our own feelings, and to disallow a feeling of pain, then we must also understand that we choose to disallow pleasurable feelings as well, including feelings of love. This is a primary reason why God's Love does not flow into many, because they are unwilling to allow themselves to feel all of their own feelings including those feelings of emotional pain. For this reason, many people focus on trying to get more and more pleasure in their lives by using drugs, alcohol, and sex in ways that are disharmonious with God's Love. In doing so, they often become unhappier, because they cannot see that the reason why they have such behavior is that at the soul level there are painful feelings they do not wish to allow.

If we allow the painful feelings at the soul level, and face them, and allow them to be felt, these feelings, once felt, will no longer be present within the soul. This will result in a behavioral change, and we will no longer engage in practices that are destructive to the soul.

In addition, since we no longer have these painful emotional experiences within our soul, our soul will be happier and more peaceful, and also more open to truth and change. So people who do not want to receive a truth that will make them happier have internal emotional pain to deal with.

Many of you have commented how good it would be to have Jesus and 13 others back on this Earth to talk to and be shown the way to happiness. Others feel that nothing could be worse. The question then becomes why do they feel nothing could be worse. Surely it would be a happy occasion?

A person in a position of pain will not want this to occur, and their pain at hearing such things is just like the Pharisees' and Sadducees' pain in the first century who opposed my teachings of God's Love. A person in pain does not want to accept the possibility of a pleasurable experience. A person without pain will contemplate the experience with pleasure, even though it may be with a degree of skepticism caused by previous experiences that may not have been successful.

So, those of you to whom I am writing this letter already have souls with the degree of development that you can contemplate pleasure without resisting it. Some of you are skeptical in a healthy way; because previous experiences of this nature may not have been successful, but you have dealt with your pain from those experiences enough to contemplate that there may be truth in what I have said in the messages I posted on the Divine Truth forum.

But please do not stop there in your personal development. Also consider events in your past that are recorded within your soul that may be preventing the flow of God's Love into your soul. These events can be things like not feeling loved as a child, having abuse (physical, mental or emotional) as a child, having a series of intimate relationships that have not been successful, having a past of dishonesty or corruption with feelings of guilt and shame, feelings of unworthiness, relationships with parents that have been destructive, and many other things of a similar emotional nature. In addition, consider personal habits and traits that may be in disagreement with how our Father, a God of Love, would feel.

All of these events and feelings can be felt and released, and then God's Love will flow into the soul. This process will result in some pain, and sometimes a soul going through pain feels like it is reverting to a worse condition. The Padgett messages refer to this as a process of expiation. But the end result will always be that you are making more room for God's Love to come into your soul, and your soul longings for this Love will increase as your desire to become a truly feeling person increases.

33. Pride

Pride is another reason why many do not wish to accept the truth. Pride comes in many forms and natures, and exhibits itself in a desire to not be wrong, and pride at is basic level is really fear. But, I feel it is very important to understand that all of us are wrong in various degrees, in that, since all of us are not God, we do not know His Truth in its entirety.

A person who has humility can accept that he or she is wrong or may be wrong, with ease. For this reason a humble person is not offended easily, and particularly does not take offence at someone saying to them they are wrong.

I have been wrong about many things in my life, both in the time before John the Baptist baptized me in the first century, and during this transition time I am currently going through, and this causes me to seek even with more zeal for the truth. A person can be in a state of Celestial bliss, but still be wrong or unsure regarding Absolute Truth, and this is demonstrated within the Padgett messages. But I do not become unhappy when I am wrong, except if I have misled others, which is why I continue to say to persons now that they can believe what they wish to believe. Shortly there will come a time when I am much more certain again, and when this time comes, I will become much more definite in my teaching of the truth.

The way I look at life is that when I am wrong, I have found another falsehood that I can throw away and remove from my belief system. Each time this occurs I become happier, since I know that my beliefs are working their way towards my Father, and I am coming closer to Him. Since I love Him so much, and I become much happier when I receive more of His Love, finding a falsehood within myself is a pleasure and not a pain.

When I see others feeling painful about the truth, or about hearing or discussing any form of spiritual matter, whether truth or falsehood, I realize they do not have a pleasure in examining all teachings, or in being wrong. If I had discounted in my mind that reincarnation could occur, or thought from a position of pride that my writings in the Padgett messages would prevent me from coming because of a desire to be "right", then even when presented with the opportunity to believe and act otherwise by my Father, I would have refused the opportunity to reincarnate and then I would not be here now. If out of pride and the desire to be right I had thought that statements within the Padgett messages would prevent my coming to Earth again, I would not have followed the leading of my Father's Will as I have done.

Until I am in my soul completely, I will still be "wrong" about some things. After I have made the transition, I expect to be right all of the time about the things I have done, and right some of the time about the things I am yet to do, and this applies for all of the 14 of those who have returned. I still expect to be wrong about the things I have not yet done, because, since I have not done them, I cannot say that I am right about them.

So, with those things in mind, I would like to now discuss the Padgett messages, asking the questions that need to be asked about reincarnation and my return.

34. Reincarnation

So lets now look at whether the Padgett messages preclude the teaching of reincarnation of the soul. To do this, I need to refer you to some of the Padgett messages, and I will discuss these as I refer to them. Whenever the text of a paragraph is in italics, then this paragraph is from a message received from a spirit within the Padgett messages.

There are three messages within the Padgett messages that are written by Celestial spirits and discuss the subject of reincarnation. There are some additional messages written by spirits who were inhabitants of the sixth sphere at the time that also discussed reincarnation.

In any discussion regarding what someone else has said or written, the context of what is written must be considered in its entirety to gain the full meaning and purpose of the person writing. A statement cannot be considered without considering all of the statements made, and taking into account statements as to the degree of uncertainty regarding some matters.

So firstly, lets consider the statements of Lamlestia, a sixth sphere spirit at the time of writing this message.

35. Lamlestia's Message

Please refer to the message by Lamlestia; "An Ancient Spirit Discusses Theosophy and Questions the Validity of Reincarnation."

" _And I further believe that, in order for the working of karma to exist, as the doctrines hold, reincarnation is necessary, and that only in the mortal body could I do the reaping that my sowing demands. And, yet, I see and know that karma has been and is working in this spirit world to the extent that the reaping has all been accomplished, and the spirit made perfect, and this without any reincarnation. For, as I have said, never have I known or heard of the reincarnation of a spirit, or of anything that is connected with or represents the spirit."_

In context this discussion of reincarnation is one that was raised in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of karma and reincarnation.

This teaching states that a person (which these religions generally believe to be a complete soul; not one half of a complete soul as we know) needs to return to Earth and be in a mortal body to reap what the "previous life" sowed. As stated by Lamlestia, a spirit can be made perfect without reincarnation, and, as Lamlestia correctly observes, no spirit at the time of his writing this message (in the early 1900's) had reincarnated.

These are all truths, and are not contradicted by any teaching of reincarnation of a complete soul. A complete soul (made of two halves) does not "need" to reincarnate to progress, neither can a half of a soul with a spirit body reincarnate. Only a complete soul, which has reached the soul-union state, can reincarnate, if it so desires. It does not "need" to do this to progress, since progression is a continuous state of a soul in any realm (even if that progression may be very slow).

Therefore Lamlestia's statement does not preclude a reincarnation of the soul, in the form I have presented.

36. Luke's Message

Please refer to the message "Luke Explains the Mystery of the Birth of the Soul in the Human Being. He Also Declares That There Is No Such Thing as Reincarnation."

Again, in context, this discussion by Luke of reincarnation is one that was raised in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of karma and reincarnation. This message is much more detailed.

" _And we further understand, and such is the result of our observation, that when the soul, and keep in mind that I mean the two parts when I say soul, once becomes incarnated and assumes an individualized form, it never thereafter loses that individuality. Hence, it never again returns to its condition of pre-existence, and can never again become reincarnated in the existence of any human being."_

At the time that Luke wrote this message, he stated that his statements were the "result of our observation". Since at the time, no soul had reincarnated, our belief was that the soul in the spirit form (in its two halves) could not reincarnate. Also, we believed at the time that the soul would have to loose it's individuality in order to incarnate, which we now know is incorrect.

" _There is no such thing as reincarnation. All the theories and speculations of men upon that question, which conclude that a soul once incarnated can again become incarnated, are wrong. For the incarnation of a soul is only one step in its destined progress from an invisible, formless existence to a glorious angel, or to a perfected spirit."_

" _In this progress, a soul never retraces its steps. It is always progressing, though sometimes stagnation takes place. But it continues as an individualized spirit until it reaches its goal in fulfilment of the Father's Plan for the perfecting of His Universe."_

In context we can see that Luke could only again state what he knew at the time, which was that there was no higher existence for a soul than the Celestial kingdom as a glorious angel, and that reincarnation was not required for the progression of the soul. Since our Father's plan was not fully known at the time it was impossible to say anything more than the soul reaching its goal in fulfillment of the Father's Plan.

" _This is a subject that is difficult of treatment for several reasons, among which is the fact that we spirits, no matter how high our attainments, do not have the information in order to give a full and complete description of the soul and its qualities prior to its incarnation; and you mortals are not capable of comprehending the full truth, as we may try to convey it to you."_

This is a very important paragraph in which Luke admitted that a discussion of these subjects regarding the future of the soul was difficult because no spirit at the time had reached a height of attainment to allow for the full information to be available. He admitted that there was limited knowledge of the condition of the soul prior to incarnation. Since no spirit up until that time had progressed to the point of a soul-union with its soulmate, and had not entered the Soul Kingdom, it was only possible for any Celestial spirit to speculate regarding many of these Divine Truths that are now known.

" _I have made this effort to give you some faint idea of the soul, as you are in good condition tonight to receive my ideas. But I realize how inadequate my attempt has proved to be. But, from it, you can understand that the soul has an existence prior to its finding its home in the physical body; that it is duplex and has a consciousness of the relationship of its two parts; that after it has received the experience of the mortal life and received an individuality, it returns to the spirit world; that, at some time, that consciousness will come to it again, and that the two parts will become one unless, in the development of these separate parts, barriers have arisen that may prevent their reuniting. And, further, that this soul will never again retrace the steps of its progression and become reincarnated."_

It is true that the soul will "never again retrace the steps of its progression and become reincarnated". Reincarnation is not required for the progression of the soul as I have previously mentioned, and a return to Earth is unnecessary for the continual growth of the soul. Luke in context was referring to the doctrine of reincarnation in the form presented on Earth at the time of his writing. Please also remember that this teaching was in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of karma and reincarnation.

As can be seen by this message, Luke also allows for the fact that not all information was able to be known regarding the full progression of the soul, or the eventual condition of the two halves of the soul which become one. This message does not discount the possibility of reincarnation in the form I have given. In addition, Divine Truth on this subject is very difficult to convey to a human on Earth, because they barely understand the form of the spirit body, let alone the soul.

37. My Messages

Please refer to the message "Jesus Declares That the Doctrine of Reincarnation Is False and Utterly Without Foundation."

This is the most complete discussion regarding reincarnation contained within the messages. I remember writing this message. Again, in context, this discussion of reincarnation is one that was raised in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of karma and reincarnation.

" _I am here again to write you about a subject that has created interest among you, the doctor and others, and that is the article on reincarnation. In the Padgett messages, various communications dealt with the falsity and absurdity of this oriental doctrine, which holds that the human soul can reincarnate from one fleshly body to others in succession over periods of time, and that, as a result, the soul has an opportunity to lessen its desire to sin and thus finally achieve purification while in the flesh."_

You can see here that I was referring directly to the prevalent oriental belief of reincarnation, the goal of which was to purify the soul from sin, and result in the soul inhabiting Nirvana, the so-called highest state of awareness within the spirit world.

" _If you will examine the question a little more closely, you will see the impossibility of the soul in the spirit world to be reincarnated in the flesh, for the reason that the soul, for this supposed phenomenon, would have to shed the spirit body in order to enter a mortal body, since the soul is encased in a spirit body which is physical in nature, but not of a gross material of what mortals call the material world. And that spirit body, which is the envelope and protector of the soul, is that which gives the soul its individuality as a conscious entity, and remains with the soul so long as the soul lives. In the spirit world, no spirit has ever been deprived of its soul. And no spirit body thus hypothetically divested of its soul has ever died or been disintegrated, or has disappeared from its habitat, except as it advances from one sphere to another while making progress either to the Sixth Sphere (or Spiritual Paradise) or to the Celestial Heavens and immortality."_

Here, as I said, it is shown that for a reincarnation to occur, a soul would have to be without its spirit body, and at the time of my writing this message no soul had been without its spirit body, and it was not known under what conditions that a soul could divest itself of its spirit body. So, at this time, it was assumed that the spirit body must be with the soul as long as the soul lives.

In addition, this portion of the message demonstrates a little regarding how a spirit progresses from one sphere to another, and we can see that a process of disappearance occurs between each sphere. It is for this reason that many spirits in the first sphere in particular often see that when a spirit friend moves from the first sphere to the second, they disappear from their view in this process, and many first sphere spirits then think that their friends have reincarnated. They also then teach persons on Earth that reincarnation in the Eastern philosophy is correct. It is only when they themselves, often many years later, go through the same process that they meet up and see their spirit friend who passed before them, they realize they were mistaken. However, because of the condition of the mediums on Earth who firmly believe in the reincarnation doctrines as presented by New Age and Eastern spiritual movements, they find it difficult to now connect with a medium on Earth that is willing to listen to their now updated belief.

" _As far as is known today by us in the spirit world, the spirit that is to say, the soul and its spirit body may live for all eternity, if God so requires it, even if it does not possess the consciousness of immortality through possession of Divine Love; and it will certainly continue to live throughout all eternity the soul and its indissoluble spirit body if it does possess the Divine Love, immortality, and at-onement with the Father."_

As you can see from this paragraph, I had a degree of uncertainty about this subject. Because of this, I said "As far as is known today by us in the spirit world" the soul and its spirit body may live for all eternity. We did not know at the time whether this was the case or not, but could only assume it was based on our observations. It was obviously also not God's time for us to become aware of any future condition of the soul.

" _As soul cannot be taken from, or torn from or in any other way deprived of its spirit body, once it has come to the spirit world, it would be equally impossible for the spirit body to enter the human body of another human being. For only a soul without a spirit body can enter a human body. And, on the death of this body, the soul manifests its spirit body. The doctrine of reincarnation is, therefore, utterly without foundation. For it is impossible, let me repeat, for a soul with its spirit body to enter a human body to be born again in the flesh."_

Here it can be seen that only a soul without its spirit body, which would have the two halves, could enter a human body. As I said, and it is still a truth, it is utterly impossible for a half of a soul with its spirit body to enter a human body to be born again in the flesh. I have also stated this very recently. However this statement does not preclude a complete soul without spirit bodies from entering two human forms again.

" _When a human being dies in the flesh, his soul has already achieved, under ordinary circumstances, the purpose of his creation; that is, individualization and the creation of receptacles for souls. And in his spirit body, in size, shape, appearance and nature, is the complete creation without the envelope of flesh."_

Here I demonstrate that the purpose of the first incarnation of the soul is individualization. Reincarnation is not required either for progression, or further development.

" _This soul appears in the spirit world laden with the in-harmonies of its Earth life. But since it has the opportunity of eliminating these in-harmonies and becoming a purified soul in the spirit world through the exercise of its will and moral force and repentance, or becoming a Divine angel through prayer to the Father for His Divine Love and Mercy, transforming the soul into the very Essence of the Father, it is therefore absolutely unnecessary for the soul to go back to the flesh for another chance to purify itself; for the Loving and Merciful Father had already provided a Plan that would enable the soul the real man to attain purification. And, here, God showed Himself to be more merciful than He might have been had He decreed successive trials in the flesh for the process of purification. For man, while thus seeking to purify his soul, would at the same time have to contend with the sinful influence of the flesh; and his ultimate purification would thus indefinitely be delayed, or perhaps never accomplished, until the very end of time. You can thus see that God has shown His Love for His created children by providing a Way for them to be purged of their sins while being free of baleful influences of the flesh (which would only hinder, and make more difficult, their tortuous progress toward purification)."_

In this paragraph I discuss the total irrelevance of the teaching of reincarnation for the purpose of the purification of the soul. The purification of sin is possible without reincarnation, and reincarnation is therefore unnecessary to give the soul a chance to purify itself. Also, the current teachings of reincarnation on the Earth all indicate that the soul would have little consciousness of its previous conditions in previous incarnations and would lack the information required in order to work out what it needs to do to progress. This of course would be a very unloving process, which a God of Love would not create for the progression of the soul.

The reincarnation, of which the first wave of 7 complete souls has experienced, as I have described previously, has resulted in a complete emotional retention of memories. This is the reason why I remember details about my life in the first century, my life in the spirit world, as well as my current existence. I am not the "reincarnation of Jesus", but rather I am Jesus, since my soul is the real me. However, I am yet to fully assimilate all of my own soul memories, since if I had remembered them all at once, my current physical body would not have survived the process emotionally.

" _As regards the sayings in the New Testament, the first thing is that I never had any thought of reincarnation when I asked my disciples, especially Peter, "Of whom do the people say I am?" That question was formulated simply to have them state whether they considered me the Messiah, as some of them already did, although not in the spiritual sense or the exact understanding that I had brought immortality to Earth in my soul."_

In the first century I never taught any teachings of reincarnation. I did not then know of any truth regarding reincarnation, and although I had heard in the 1st century of the philosophies that taught reincarnation for the purpose of the refinement of the soul, as taught today by many religions and the New Age movement, I knew that these teachings were not in harmony with God's Truth, since they were not loving teachings, and I was also aware that no spirit at that time had ever reincarnated.

" _Again, you were right in thinking that I said: "But I say unto you that it was one like Elijah is come," and not: "But I say unto you that Elijah is come." For I did refer to John, the Baptist, who, in his type of sermon and in his temperament, and even in his garb and food, was a throwback to Elijah. But here the similarity ended. For each of these lived different lives, and are individual souls, and are both living in the Celestial Heavens at the same time; and this is a physical impossibility with reincarnation. For, in this doctrine, if Elijah were John, the Baptist, only one soul and only one spirit body would be involved."_

In the Bible, I often commented on similarities to people from times past to those who existed in the first century. Also, Elijah was a very progressed spirit, and would often come to John the Baptist and we would talk together with Elijah (Elias in the Padgett messages). I also gave nicknames to some of those who were later called the apostles, which I used in moments of fun with them. But I never meant they had lived before. No spirit had ever reincarnated at the time I wrote this message, and I knew then as I do now that Elijah and John the Baptist are different individuals.

" _The child born blind did not sin, nor did its parents, but suffered blindness because of the physical defect in his mother which prevented the perfect development of the foetus in her womb; and, thus, this defect has prevented the perfect manifestation of God's Work of creation. This defect is one of many to which the imperfect world of the flesh is subject. And it is for this reason that purification of the soul, while in the flesh, would be a task of countless centuries, and a punishment worse than the most evil hells of the spirit world in its duration. The quotation from Revelation, Ch. 3, Vs. l2: "He shall never more go out," referring to the "Temple of my God," is an allusion of the soul possessing the Divine Love to such a degree that immortality is a conscious possession, and its home is forevermore the Celestial Heavens, although the writer, himself, understood very little of this, and had in mind a purified soul and not a Divine soul, with its habitat in the Sixth Sphere."_

Again here I illustrate how reincarnation for the purpose of the progression of the soul would be fruitless, and, as demonstrated by the purpose of the 7 spheres of progression as shown in the Padgett messages, and other writings such as Robert James Lees "The Gate of Heaven", reincarnation as taught by Eastern theosophy would be a very cumbersome and unloving method to work through the soul's emotional injuries.

In summary, this message refers directly to the prevalent oriental belief of reincarnation, the goal of which was to purify the soul from sin. I stated throughout this message that for a reincarnation to occur the soul would have to divest its spirit body, and since the method of how this could be achieved at the time could not be known, I could state at the time that I could not see how it could be achieved.

Also reincarnation for the purpose of progression was, and still is, totally unnecessary. So this message does not preclude the teaching of reincarnation as I have mentioned.

Please refer to the message; "Jesus Discusses the Nature of Mr. Padgett's Mediumship, and Makes Mention of the False Doctrine of Reincarnation."

" _I know the substance of the book that you have been reading, and the falsity of these speculations that assert the doctrine of reincarnation. There is no such thing as the second embodiment of the soul into the human form, and no return to Earth for the purpose of improvement of the soul's condition."_

Again this message refers to the reincarnation of the soul for the purpose of the improvement of the soul's condition, and, since at the time no spirit has ever reincarnated (and I must say, no spirit can ever reincarnate, only a complete soul can), this message was again the truth at the time.

38. Goliath's Message

Please refer to the message; "Goliath, the Famous Giant of the Philistines, Tells Mr. Padgett That He Was a Real Person Who Lived in the Days of the Old Testament. He Denies That There Is Any Reincarnation After the Death of the Mortal Body, and Disavows That He Was Killed by David, as Described in the Scriptures."

Again, in context, this discussion by Goliath of reincarnation is one that was raised in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of Nirvana and reincarnation.

" _As to the others who are equally misguided, and who believe that their salvation or future condition of happiness depends on reincarnation, I must say that they are now, and will be, disappointed, just as will be the first class that I mention. This doctrine of reincarnation is a false and misleading one, and will never enable any man or spirit to live the second time in the body as a mortal. It is so utterly absurd that it is astonishing that men can believe that such a thing can be! And, besides, if they will only think seriously for a moment, they will realize that there is no necessity for man to live again on Earth; for the surroundings and things that prevent the progress of man to perfection are so detrimental to his progress that it would not assist him one particle, in acquiring such progress, to have to undergo a second incarnation."_

The doctrine referred to is the current Eastern doctrine of reincarnation, not the teaching that I have referred to in my writings. Again it can be seen there is no necessity for man to live again on Earth, and this is still the truth. Also, reincarnation for the purpose of progress is not required.

" _When the spirit leaves the body, its possibility for progress then becomes greater than ever existed on Earth, although some spirits for long ages do not take advantage of such possibilities; yet, they exist. And Earth life can afford no equal means to them for making this progress towards what these people call "Nirvana." Someday, the truths will become so plain and easily understood by mortals that these beliefs, of their own weight - and I mean weight that absurdity gives them - will cease to exist."_

As Goliath has shown, the possibility for progress is much greater in the spirit realms than it is even on Earth. Although, I would like to say about this that when the mortal takes advantage of the Earth life in progress, its progress in the spirit world is much greater than the mortal who has not found God's Love while on Earth.

" _You may be somewhat surprised that I write on these subjects, but you must know that I am an angel of the Celestial Heavens and have a work to do. And, being present, I requested the privilege of writing; and, it being granted, I did so."_

" _I know what Divine Love means and what progress means, as I came from the lowest hells and found no necessity for reincarnation. And you may be assured that if my condition of suffering and darkness could have been gotten rid of by reincarnation, I would have reincarnated centuries before I was relieved of my awful condition. I have met spirits who said they believed in the doctrine. But, strange to say, none of them had ever been able to reincarnate, though they persisted that they felt that other spirits had, who were just in that condition that permitted it, and that they would also reincarnate when they became in a condition that was suitable. But I have noticed that these spirits never got in that suitable condition, but simply progressed in the spirit world. And they now say that they were mistaken, and are thankful that there is no such thing as reincarnation."_

As can be seen here, Goliath demonstrates that no spirit has ever reincarnated, and this continues to be the truth today. Only a complete soul can reincarnate. Goliath by his own example has shown that reincarnation of the soul is not required for progression, and this truth is still the truth today. Goliath arrived in the hells of the first sphere of the spirit world, and he then progressed to the Celestial kingdom without ever returning to Earth in a series of reincarnations.

So Goliath's message does not preclude a reincarnation of the soul as I have described in my messages, although, again, it does illustrate the many errors with the general reincarnation beliefs presented today.

39. Saelish's Message

Please refer to the message; "Saelish, a Spirit of Old, Declares That There Is No Such Thing as Reincarnation."

Saelish was a sixth sphere spirit who did believe in the doctrine of reincarnation while on Earth, but, from his own experience through to the 6th sphere, he had not found that the doctrine could be supported in the manner he had come to believe while on earth.

Again, in context, this discussion by Saelish of reincarnation is one that was raised in reference to the current beliefs of many adherents of Eastern religions believing in the theosophy of Nirvana and reincarnation.

" _Of course, the help that we sought for was all of a material nature, for never did we think of help in the way of preparing us for a future life. We supposed that was only for those of us who, by our great achievements in battle or in intellectual pursuits, would become gods ourselves upon death. The poor, ordinary mortals were only intended to live the mortal life - at least during the incarnation that they then had. And their expectations were that, perhaps in some future incarnation, they might have the opportunity and the favours of the unknown gods so that they might become gods themselves."_

" _This was the substance of the beliefs and hopes of the Assyrians at that time. And many millions died in that belief and are now inhabitants of the several planes of certain spheres of the spirit world. None of them has ever returned for a new incarnation, thereby starting on their way to becoming gods. And this is for the reason (which is sufficient to satisfy them sooner or later when they become spirits) that those men who they supposed had become gods when they died were in the spirit world - spirits themselves - and were not gods at all!"_

Here, Saelish points out that no spirit has reincarnated as far as he was aware. He also refers to the false teaching that man can become gods by the process of renunciation of sin. In addition, he points out that many of the spirits who inhabit other spheres under the 6th sphere still believe in reincarnation, although they cannot support such a believe when they investigate the matter personally.

" _So, you see, when once it leaves the physical body, the soul never returns again to any physical body, but continues in the spirit world to exist as a soul with a body of spirit form and substance; and no spirit has ever experienced the sensation of becoming reincarnated."_

" _And this is the truth that I wished to tell you: that the soul, when once it leaves the physical body, never again finds its habitation in another, or the same, physical body, but forever occupies the spirit body thereafter, and that in the spirit world only. When a mortal dies on Earth, so far as the earthly body being its home again is concerned, this body becomes a thing of the past. It is a mere way station which has been left behind, and it will never again appear as a stopping place on the spirit's line of progression."_

" _I thought it might do good for me to write this tonight, for it is the information from a spirit who lived on Earth long years ago and believed in this doctrine of reincarnation, and who, during all the long years of its spirit life, has learned and experienced the truth that reincarnation is a fable and has no real existence. No, the soul never retraces its steps or its methods of existence, for it never goes back from the spirit to mortal."_

" _On the Earth today, I know that there are thousands of mortals who believe in this doctrine of reincarnation, and many thousands more have died in that belief. Thus, many both live and die in that belief. And only when the truth comes to them do they realize that their belief was an erroneous one, and that they will never reach Nirvana by retracing their course of life through the physical body."_

Again it can be seen from this discussion that Saelish could state with certainty regarding doctrines he believed for many years that were false. I have stated many times that the doctrine of reincarnation as it is known by most Eastern philosophies is false, and this is not the same reincarnation process that I have taught.

The problem is that many mortals believe in this doctrine, so when they pass over, they continue in its belief until they progress to higher spheres. Thus, when they deliver information to an earthly medium, they continue to teach a doctrine which is to them only speculation. In addition, now that a real reincarnation has occurred, many 6th sphere spirits are aware of it, but they cannot understand how it occurred, and they do not wish to accept that their own doctrines they have been teaching for many thousands of years are actually wrong. So, this is why there is much more interest now in reincarnation.

40. Final Comments Regarding Reincarnation

Once we had understood that reincarnation of the soul was possible under the conditions I have previously described, we were very happy for a number of reasons.

Firstly, there was a higher degree of commonality between the Christian teachings of truth, and the Eastern philosophies. There were and are millions of spirits in the Heavens who have been waiting for a reincarnation into the flesh (however often for the wrong reasons), and now we had an opportunity to demonstrate to them how this reincarnation could be attained under certain conditions. I felt that this truth was going to have a major impact on the number of disillusioned spirits believing in the old doctrine of reincarnation, and many of them would accept this truth and also, by its acceptance, begin praying to God for His Love.

Secondly, it has always been my desire to return to the Earth, and teach the teachings of truth, only I could not find the way in which this could be accomplished. The entire reason for showing Swedenborg, and then Mr. Padgett the truth was that this truth could be taught to men while on Earth. I would have made any choice in harmony with Divine Love to return and teach the truth because of my love for mankind, and I have now done it, with the blessings of my Father, and the love of my soulmate, and the company of 12 of my friends. You cannot imagine my happiness at being able to do this. I cry with happiness just thinking of it. There are so many persons who will not have to undergo the long periods of torments of those in the past because of our actions.

Thirdly, all Celestial spirits could see the dangers of man's technology, and how man with his current desire for material wealth was and is damaging his own environment to the point of its destruction. We were wondering what God had planned to prevent this tragedy from occurring, not really understanding at the time that His Plan involved our progress into the Soul Kingdom, giving us the ability to return. To all Celestial spirits, this is a wondrous thing.

Fourth, we have come to recognize that the Padgett messages were actually messages to ourselves, to those who would return. Within them contained the secrets to our recovery from sin and error, and our soul would not be able to resist the power of the messages, since we had written them. Oh, how Clever our Father is!

I hope that this discussion demonstrates how a reasonable person reading the Padgett messages could not truthfully discount the teaching of reincarnation as I have described on the Divine Truth forum.

41. Some Background

Since our Father always had things in hand with regard to the timing of His Plan, He was always guiding the delivery of truth to man. For many years, all the Celestial spirits spent most of their time talking to other spirits and suggesting to the thought processes of mortals the correct teachings of the truth. During this time, our desire was strong to have mankind find the truth, and so attempts were made at times, including the attempt with Swedenborg, to deliver these truths using various methods that were in the main unsuccessful.

We understand now that these methods were unsuccessful because it was not our Father's Plan to have the truths declared in the manner we had chosen, nor at the time we had chosen for them to be delivered. Each successive time we delivered truths, we were also learning more regarding our Father's Plans, and thus our own personal growth was continuing.

Our Father had caused by His impression on many different people's minds while they lived on Earth for the prophecies of my and others return to be recorded in the Bible. Our Father, through spirits who at the time did not realize they were inspired, delivered some modifications made to the Bible. Even when changes were attempted, they changes sometimes finished up at least containing some truth. In addition, many other writings of Eastern spiritual nature all refer to the return of Christ, or of a world spiritual teacher. Even many of the Padgett messages contain this thought written by Celestial spirits, although, at the time, they could not understand how this would be possible.

These people were being guided by spirit to make these predictions. Myself and other Celestial spirits did not understand this at the time of the writing of the Padgett messages, since we had not found the way that returning to the Earth would become possible, and so we assumed that the Plan of our Father did not include the return and reincarnation of any souls who had progressed above the Celestial Kingdom, and that these prophecies meant something else, and perhaps were colored by the minds of those persons channeling the information.

In some ways we could not understand why the process of enlightening the world was not easier, and could only guess that, since God is All Loving, there was a much larger picture that we as yet could not understand, and so I would pray to my Father constantly regarding coming to an understanding. Even after we had transmitted the messages to Mr. Padgett, we had a firm belief that these truths that we delivered successfully would take the world by storm, and cause the creation of a unified new world religion that we, in fact, mentioned within the messages.

We were not aware at that time that our own prophecies made within the Padgett messages regarding a new world religion, and a new world order, would in fact be fulfilled by none other than ourselves. Such is our Father's Wisdom. In time we came to see that the Padgett messages were in fact primarily messages to ourselves to make our own return to the Earth possible, and that the prophecies made by others about our return were in fact true and guided by spirit.

I myself was so concerned about teaching these messages to the world, and ensuring the unified new world religion was a reality that I failed to understand the depths of my Father's Wisdom, and that the new world religion would only become a reality if I concentrated on my personal progress, and the progress of my soulmate to a larger extent. This demonstrates the Divine Truth of how the progression of the one results in the progression of the whole.

Once this was realized, then my progress became rapid, and I put far more importance on assisting the progress of my soulmate as well, and, we progressed together. Of course, in this process, I understood that since I was progressing, I was also working towards the goal of helping mankind progress in a larger way than I was before when I was spending most of my time on the Earth plane attempting with various degrees of success to influence people to teach the truth of the Padgett messages.

During this time I and other Celestial spirits became aware of many new things which my Father made plain to us, including the Plan He has for the resolution of all of the current world problems, and infinite progress available to a soul of His creation. We have come to know that a Celestial spirit has yet to complete the process of the individualization of the soul, which process begins for that soul when it is first incarnate, and is completed when both the material and spiritual bodies no longer need to exist, and the half of the soul is at-one with it's mate, when a soul-union has occurred.

We have also come to know that once this process is complete, we are like a small child sitting on its Father's lap, ready to be educated in a more complete sense in the ways of its Father. Most importantly, we have come to know to a small extent the Awesome Love and Wisdom of our own Creator, and, because we feel as He does, we begin to feel the true depths of His Love for His Children.

I have many more things to write about this, but for the moment, this may give you some idea as to the feelings that result from a soul who has come to know his Father to some extent.

42. My Return to Earth

Some have stated that the Padgett messages prevent the thought of my return even being discussed. However, again if the messages are read by an open person being honest with the tone of the messages in context, that same person would be able to see that there was a strong desire, not only on my behalf, but also on the behalf of all the Celestial spirits for us to be able to return to the Earth, and preach the truths to mankind.

Again, I will mention the messages, and make comments regarding our feelings at the time.

Please refer to the message from myself; "Jesus Says His Mission in Writing These Messages Is His Second Coming on Earth."

" _I have heard your discussion tonight, and am pleased at the soul understanding of my truths which you and your friend seem to have. I now feel that you are both progressing to that point where you will soon be in a condition to fully understand what my mission is in writing these messages. You have said truly that my New Revelation of the truths of the soul is what mankind needs at this time, and what men will be in condition to accept as the real truths of God's Love and of His Laws. My coming to you is really my second coming on Earth, and the result of my coming in this way will satisfy and fulfill all the promises of the scriptures as to my second coming._

So, let your belief in this important fact and your faith in me increase until you will have in your soul and mind no doubt as to what my present mission is, or what your work will be in making known to men my real purpose in revealing to them the great Truths of the Father.

I will not write more tonight, but will say: Keep up your courage and believe, and the time will soon come when you will be able to receive my messages in all their fullness and with such rapidity that the spreading of these truths will not be delayed. I am with you and will be a faithful friend and brother, sticking closer to you than any earthly brother."

At the time, I was so pleased that we had been able to assist Mr. James Padgett to develop his soul enough to receive our messages that I believed that this would be my second coming to the Earth as I mentioned. I love Mr. James Padgett so much because he was humble enough to follow our direction in developing his soul, and it made the delivery of the messages possible. It was a very happy time for us, seeing that this delivery was the most successful we had ever attempted, and we fully expected the messages to have a big impact on the Earth.

Of course, the messages would have a huge impact, but not in the way we were thinking at the time. We came to understand afterward, when we could see that the world of mankind was not really taking much notice of the messages we delivered, that God's Plan was much larger.

Refer to another message I wrote; "What Will Be the Religion of the Future, and a Comprehensive and Final One, Founded on the Truths That James E. Padgett Is Receiving."

" _I have been with you part of the time as you were reading the different explanations of the various religions, and tried to direct your mind so that you might conceive the difference between the things taught in those teachings and what we are revealing to you. Many things that are set forth in those teachings, that are mysteries and the results of speculation, will be revealed to you in their true existence and meaning, so that all defects that arise because of the insufficiency of these teachings will be corrected and supplied. I am glad that you read these sermons, for they demonstrate to you a number of truths that were known to the ancients, but which fall far short of the Truth. At those times, there was no source from which our truths could come, either in the spirit world or in the mortal world; hence, humans could not become inspired as to the vital truths that we are revealing._

The men who appeared as reformers and gave forth the truths that were unknown to their fellowmen were inspired by the intelligences of the spirit world. But that inspiration could not be greater or higher than the knowledge of the spirits by whom these men were inspired. And what I say here applies not only to the prophets and teachers of the Old Testament times, but also to those of all times, and among all races, preceding my coming to Earth and making known the great Truths which were revealed to me by the Father.

I noticed that some of these teachers and writers of essays at the great religious gathering attempted to speak of a future, or world religion, and their claims were divergent, but were based mostly on those foundations that will never support such a religion. They based their concepts almost entirely on the principles of morality, as understood by them. And the churches based their beliefs on the teachings of the New Testament, which, in many and vital particulars, are erroneous, especially the basic one that I am God, the Son, and that my "vicarious atonement" and "sacrifice" must be the touchstone of the future great and ultimate religion. Well, as their claims are not true, it is certain that any religion based upon them cannot be true or lasting.

There will be a religion of the future, and a comprehensive and final one; and it will be founded upon the truths which you are now receiving, for it will be inclusive of all the other religions, so far as the truths that they contain are concerned, with the addition of the greatest of all truths affecting mortals the new birth and transformation of the human soul into the Divine. When men shall come to make a comparative analysis of these existing religions and the one that I shall make known, there will be very little conflict in the vital principles, and my teachings will only add to the old teachings that which all men can accept.

Hence, you see the importance of our working more rapidly in our efforts to disclose and disseminate the truth. I will come in a few nights and deliver another formal message, and others will come also and write to you. Many of the Celestial spirits are qualified to teach the truths of the Father, and they are ready and anxious to do so."

So, again you can see that my desire, which was the desire and expectation of all Celestial spirits, and still is, was that the new world religion, a unification of all world religions by Divine Truth, would begin by the delivery of the messages through Mr. Padgett, and the distribution by Dr. Stone.

Of course, we now have at our disposal the means to make this a reality, and understand in a more complete way how this will come about.

Refer to George Whitefield's message; "The Great World Teacher Will Be the Master Coming Again to Earth in the Form of His Divine Revelations."

" _I was with you tonight at the prayer meeting and heard what the preacher said, and was particularly interested in his ideas about the coming of the great world teacher. I saw that his idea of what constituted greatness in this particular arose from his estimate of human greatness._

The teacher will not be a great preacher or a magnificent specimen of physical development, or a man with a wonderful voice, but a man who can reveal to the world the Truths of the Father regarding the relationship of man to the Father, and the plan provided for the redemption and reconciliation of man to the Father.

It is a fact, and I know whereof I write, that the regeneration of the human soul is caused more by the quiet meditations of mortals of the Truths of the Father, and by the silent longings of the soul, than by the emotions that arise from the fervid and persuasive sermons of the preachers and evangelists. These latter may arouse the dead souls to a realization of their need of a reconciliation to God, but these emotions do not so often bring the soul into rapport, or unison with the Father, as the silent meditations of which I speak do. There must be the true soul longings and aspirations for this Love of the Father. And, in such cases, these longings do not arise from the emotions produced, as I have mentioned, and especially where such emotions are the results of fear created by the picturing of an angry and revengeful god. No, in the silence of the home chamber where the mortal is alone with God, as it were, and he lets his longings go to the Father for the bestowal of His Love, because of the love that he has for the Father, that is where and when this Divine Love comes to him in response and in regenerating Power. Only the mortal and God need be alone. Excitement, or the magnetism which the preacher may give to the mortal, does not create the true longings or aspirations. And for the preacher to suppose that the great world teacher must be a man with this great personal magnetism, or with a voice that can cause the feelings of the mortal to vibrate with emotion or excitement, is a mistake. When on Earth, Jesus, I am told, never tried to create emotion or excitement in this manner; but his teachings were as the still small voice that enters the soul and draws it to a contemplation of the Father's Love in all the power of a soul's longings hungry and craving.

So, I say, the preacher's conception of this teacher was not a true one. And, besides, while there will be a revelation of the truth, there will be no world teacher, but only a revealer of truths that will be disclosed. The master, himself, will be the great teacher who will come again to Earth in the form of his revelations.

I wish that I could come and proclaim these truths, but I cannot. Only through the instrumentality of a human can my thoughts be made known. And they will not be my thoughts, either, any more than they will be the thoughts of the mortal, because what I may attempt to impress upon the minds and consciousness of men will be only those truths that I have learned from the same source as the revelations will come.

Of course, these truths will have to be preached and taught to men. This will not be done by any great teacher, but by many preachers who shall learn the truth from what the Master shall disclose. And no man, of himself, will be able to claim to be the great teacher. The greatest will be those who shall have the most Divine Love in their souls and the greatest knowledge of the truths.

I also heard the preacher say that he would believe in any truths that might be confirmed by miracles, such as were performed in the time of Jesus the instantaneous healings, etc. Well, you need not be surprised by such a demonstration, for it will surely take place. When a man shall receive a sufficient amount of the Divine Love in his soul, with It, a power and knowledge of the laws governing the relation of spirit to material organism will come to that man that will enable him to perform these same acts that are called miracles. And, further, there will be some who will have that power and will demonstrate the same in confirmation of the truths that you are receiving.

The spirits who are now working to inform and convince man of these truths have determined that such so-called "miracles" shall take place in confirmation of the New Revealment. The Master is the leader in this movement, and he will not cease to bring about this great demonstration; or, rather, he will not cease to work to this end. And he will not fail, if the human agents will follow his leading.

Well, I must not write more tonight. But, as I am interested in this great work and saw that the preacher's conception of this great world teacher is incorrect, I deemed it wise to write to you as I have. What I have written is not the result of my individual belief or opinion, but the result of what these high spirits have determined shall come to pass. And back of it all is the Will and Help of the Father. For, in His Love and Mercy, He desires to see all men become His true children, and redeemed from the sins and evils of their present human condition."

You may find this message very interesting because, as you can see, George stated the feelings we all had when he said that "The Master, himself, will be the great teacher who will come again to Earth in the form of his revelations." But he also said "I wish that I could come and proclaim these truths, but I cannot." This is how we all felt.

So, even though the messages stated that the messages themselves were my teachings, we all also felt a little disappointed (if you could say this of a Celestial spirit) that we could not personally come to the Earth and teach them, rather than teaching them through a medium.

Refer to my message; "Jesus Will Never Come as a "Prince Michael" to Establish His Kingdom."

The context of this message was in relation to the preacher basically saying that my return was the cause of the Great War, World War 1, as some other preachers had been preaching. The same preacher though was also teaching things found within the book of Revelation Chapter 12 that of course were not actually a part of Apostle John's original writings. Then I elaborated on the terms found in the Bible regarding establishing my kingdom on Earth.

" _I was with you tonight and heard the address of the preacher and his explanation of the cause of the great war that is now raging in Europe, and it was a very intelligent and truthful one, and the real foundation of the war._

I will not come as a "Prince Michael" to establish my kingdom on Earth, and take those with me whose names are written in the book and destroy those whose names are not written therein, as the preacher said. For I have already come, and am now working in the world to turn men's hearts to God, and to teach them the Way by which they may become at-one with the Father and receive the Divine Love into their souls.

In no other way will I ever come to men on Earth, for they will not need me as a visible king with the powers and armies of the spirit world in visible form to subdue the evil that exists. There will arise no "Satan" to fight against me or my followers in the sense that the preacher teaches. For, besides the fact that I am already in the world fighting for the salvation of men, there is no Satan.

The only devils or evil spirits who are trying to influence men to evil thoughts and actions are the spirits of men who still retain all their sins and wickedness, and who are still at work attempting to encourage and enlarge the evil that exists in the hearts of men, themselves.

How pitiable it is that the preacher and his followers believe that the spirits of men who have died the natural death are un-resurrected and still resting in the grave, or in oblivion, and that they are waiting for the "great day" of my appearance on Earth, as they say, in order to come again into life and be called by me into my kingdom. How much they lose by such beliefs, and how great and surprising will their awakening be when they pass through the change called death!

There will be no battle of Armageddon, but only the battle between sin and righteousness that the soul of each man is now fighting. This is the only battle that will ever be fought between the prince of peace and "Satan." Each soul must fight its own battle, and, in that fight, the powers of God and His instruments, which never cease to work, will be used to help that soul overcome the great enemy, sin, which is of man's creation.

These teachings of the preacher do great harm to mankind in that they cause the individual man to believe that I, as the Prince of Peace, will come in mighty power and will destroy evil and all who personify it in one fell swoop, thereby doing the work which only each individual man can and must do.

I know that it will be very difficult to persuade the people of this sect that what they teach and what they conclude the Bible teaches is not true. But I hope that many of them will put aside the security of their beliefs and attempt to understand these truths when my truths are brought to light and men have the opportunity to learn the truth. For, in truth, they must understand them, either in the mortal life or in the spirit world, in order to enter the Kingdom of God.

As to these prophecies of Daniel, they have no application to the present condition of the world. Insofar as they were written by him or by any other prophet, they related only to the times in which they were written. No man or spirit, inspired or not, had the omniscience to foretell these wonderful things that are now taking place in the world. Any attempts to apply these supposed prophecies to the happenings of the present day are without justification, and are the results of the imaginations of men when the occurrences appear to fit the prophecies.

Peace will come, but not as the result of any battle of Armageddon, or any other battle based upon the principles which the preacher applies to these prophecies. As I have said, this battle is going on all the time, and it is an individual fight between the sinful soul and the creatures of man's disobedience.

So, do not waste your time in reading or listening to these unreal and foundationless teachings of men who think that they have discovered the Intentions of God with reference to the destiny of nations."

Ned (Mr. James Padgett) had been reading the teachings of Charles Russell, the founder of the religion called the International Bible Students, which were later to become Jehovah's Witnesses. This religious group has always been very interested in attempting to understand the so-called prophecies of Revelation. I must say that there are some truths contained in that book that relate to the current situation and how religion will be removed, but there are so many incorrect things in the book of Revelation that it is impossible for the average Bible student to determine truth from falsehood.

This religious group teaches that there is a Satan, and He and the demons under his control are the only spirits in the spirit world, and that there would be a war between myself, as Prince Michael, and these wicked spirits. Of course, all of this is wrong, and I will never come as a Prince or be established as a King, since our Father is ruler over all His Creation, and He needs no other Prince or King to take His place. Also, the free will of each person would dictate that I would never forcefully establish a kingdom in any location.

But the term "Prince of Peace" is one that does apply, since those who become believers in the Way I show will learn the Way to peace as well, and in this manner I could be said to be a prince of peace.

Please refer to the message; "Apostle John Writes on the True Meaning of 'The End of the World.'"

" _In the first place, I will say that there will be no end of the world from any of the causes mentioned by the preacher; and, in the next place, there will be no end of the world at all, as understood and declared by the orthodox preachers, and as is expected by most of the professing Christians._

The "world," meaning the Earth, will not have an "end" in the sense of annihilation. It will continue to revolve on its axis, have seed time and harvest, produce and reproduce those things that are necessary to sustain human life, have its appropriate seasons of heat and cold, and move along in its orbit, as it now does, until some change, we know not of now, may come and destroy it. But not any of the prophecies of the Bible (admitting that there are prophecies) can apply to the end of the world in the sense that the preacher understood and declared.

If humanity would only understand that the world that was lost by the disobedience of the first parents was the world of man's immortality and happiness, and not the physical world, and that Jesus came to declare the restoration of that world upon condition, and the end of that restoration, then they would know that the material world is not involved in the plan of man's salvation, or in Jesus' mission, or in the declarations of Jesus as to the coming of the end.

Men will continue to be born, live a short time, and die the physical death. And, as to each individual man, the end of the material world comes when he dies; for, thereafter, his habitation will be in the spirit world, and never more will he have life on Earth. All men will have to die the physical death at some time. Then, why should it be necessary to include the destruction of the material world in the Plan of God for the salvation of men? For planets and worlds and stars to crash together and be destroyed would require that the orderly workings of God's Laws must be interfered with in order that men might be destroyed or saved (either left to their own helplessness on earth or rescued by being "snatched up into the air").

Such interpretations of God's Intentions or Plans, or of Jesus coming again to Earth, are all wrong and absurd. Jesus will never come to establish his kingdom on Earth and reign as Prince of Peace and "Lord of Lords," for the Kingdom which he and all his true followers on Earth and in the spirit world are seeking to establish is in the Celestial Heavens. This Kingdom of God is not made with hands or by the mere fiat of any spirit, no matter how high he may be, but is made and populated by the souls of men who have experienced the New Birth and have received the Divine Essence of the Father. Of this Kingdom, Jesus is the Prince, but only because of his great and exceeding possession of the Divine Love of the Father, and his more perfect at-onement with Him.

Jesus is not seeking to establish a kingdom on Earth, but is working for the purpose of leading men to the New Birth of the spirit, and of showing them the Way to the Celestial Kingdom. He is working by way of his love and suggestions, along with other good spirits, to help men cast sin and error from their hearts, and to strive to regain the condition of perfect manhood in the perfection of their natural love. He is also helping men to get in this condition of soul regeneration, or in that of the purification of their natural love, while they still live on Earth, so that love to God in the Divine sense, love to God in the created sense, and brotherly love will cover the whole Earth, and men will be at peace and happy while yet clothed in the flesh.

Such a condition of mortal existence may be called the Kingdom of God on Earth, but it will not be the Kingdom which Jesus came to earth to establish: the Kingdom of Heaven. This Kingdom has its seat and abiding place in the Celestial spheres where it will never be removed.

So, then, when the Bible teaches of the world coming to an end and passing away, it does not mean the material world but the world of men's thoughts and deeds and sinful conditions that are not in harmony with God's Laws, or the Laws of His Creation. This is the world that shall be destroyed when righteousness shall cover the Earth, as the waters do the deep, and brotherly love reigns among men. Even today, there are some men living on the Earth who are so separated from the world that, as to them, the world has no existence not the material world, but the world of sin and unrighteousness, which is the only world to be destroyed.

There shall be wars and rumors of wars, and times of trouble, etc., such as there never were, and then shall come the end. Not the wars of the cannon's roars, or the bursting shells or the mutilated flesh, or the making of widows and orphans, or the ruthless changing of mortals into spirits, but the wars of the spirits of good and evil, of love and hate, of purity and sin, of joy and despair, and of knowledge of truth and belief in error all to be fought in the souls of men with great intensity and earnestness, and creating such mind and spirit trouble as has never been, causing rumors thereof to flood the Earth and the habitations of men.

Then shall come the end of the world the world of evil and sin and despair and hatred and belief in error. This world shall pass away, and truth and love and peace and good will shall be established on the Earth forever. The Earth of this future day, then, will become so peaceful and filled with love and brotherly kindness that it will seem to men as if the "City of God" had been let down from heaven onto Earth.

Let mortals know that Jesus has already come to Earth and is among men, and that, since the time of his becoming the Prince of the Celestial Kingdom, he has been with men and spirits teaching them the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

By the Holy Spirit have the Truths of the Father spoken to men as a still, small voice, and by the communions of souls has the Master led men to the Love and Mercy of the Father.

As in my time, when he came to the Jews with his message of love and life eternal, but they knew him not and rejected him, so, now, many men, and spirits, too, refuse to listen to him and learn the Way through the straight gate to the Father's Love and immortality.

Let men study the prophecies and the times and the seasons and calculate the time of the end, and predict the near approach of the Master's coming in the clouds and prepare themselves to be "snatched up in the air" and become of the Heavenly Host; yet they will find that all these things are vanities of vanities. Only as each individual passes beyond the veil of flesh will he realize the end of his mortal world has come, and then all his speculations as to himself will become realities, and the certainty of the world's end will become an established fact. But men will continue to live on Earth and die and, in succession, others will be born to die, and so on, until... only God knows.

So, I say to men, prepare not for the passing away of the heavens and the Earth, but for the passing of themselves from the Earth to the great world of spirits. And remember: that as they sow, so shall they reap certainty that is never changed, a truth that no speculation can make untrue.

The end of man's world comes each day to some mortal, and that end may lead to a glorious immortality or to a temporary or a long darkness and suffering.

Thus are the prophecies being fulfilled. And the speculations of preachers and teachers and leaders of the unthinking are robbing men of the vital truth that the end of the world is coming each moment and day and year.

Oh, preacher and teacher and leader, your responsibility is great, and the accounting must be made! The reaping must follow the sowing as certainly as the day follows the night. And what will your harvest be?

The end of the world for some mortal is the important now!"

This was a very important and powerful message written by Apostle John. The portion that others quote now is "Jesus will never come to establish his kingdom on Earth and reign as Prince of Peace and "Lord of Lords," for the Kingdom which he and all his true followers on Earth and in the spirit world are seeking to establish is in the Celestial Heavens."

Of course, this is actually true, and is still true, even though I am on Earth. I have no intention or desire of becoming a ruler over the Earth as many Christian religions teach since it is not God's Plan. God rules, and I am His Child. The Kingdom of importance in terms of blissful experience in the spirit world is of course the Celestial Kingdom and what is above it, in that it is this Kingdom in which those who have received the Divine Love of the Father and been born again reside.

Although there will be major changes on the Earth in the next 7 years, sin and error will still exist and will not be fully eradicated for some time, since the free will of man dictates the state of man. However there will be major changes, and in time these changes will result in the eradication of sin on Earth, and the clearing of the hells of the spirit world. The thing of main importance is that man will be shown that this existence on Earth is not all there is, and that the way to progress in knowledge and wisdom is to progress and come into complete union with the Father. His Love is the key thing, and happiness in all other pursuits is the result of coming to understand the Wonders of our Father's Love.

So this message does not preclude my return to the Earth, but rather, precludes my establishing a Kingdom on Earth, and ruling over this Kingdom, which of course I have no personal desire to do, and neither is it my Father's Will. My Father is the ruler, and I am his child just as you are.

Please refer to the message from Elizabeth; "Elizabeth, the Cousin of Jesus' Mother, Mary, Confirms That Mr. Padgett Has Obtained Much of the Divine Love. She Also Explains What the "Second Coming" of Jesus Really Means."

A bit of background here is that Elizabeth is the mother of John the Baptist, and was married to Zechariah when on Earth.

" _This is the only way of becoming at-one with him. Everything else besides this is inefficacious to bring about the great transformation of which the higher spirits have written you. So many spirits are engaged in this great work, which is the real "second coming" of Jesus, and which means the second coming of the love and mercy and privilege of receiving the love. And, with your physical vision, if you could only see those who are present for a moment, you would never doubt the work that you are to do, or the great responsibility that rests upon you. But, as you cannot see in this way, you must believe without seeing, and let no doubt of the fact enter into your faith."_

Elizabeth was repeating here what we all believed, and that was since it did not seem possible for any spirit to return to the Earth, the Revelations given to Mr. Padgett were considered by us all to be my "second coming." For this reason we felt that Mr. James Padgett had a very large responsibility, which as I have said we expected to result in major changes in religion that did not eventuate at the time, and still has not come about for many reasons.

Please refer to Apostle John's message; "Jesus Will Never Come in All His Glory and Power and Take Men Into His Heaven, Just as They are in Body, Soul and Spirit (St. John — Apostle of Jesus)."

This message dealt in context to what "Christians" commonly refer to as the rapture; that is the arrival of myself coming in a cloud, and all those who are my followers being taken to heaven. Of course, this will never happen in a physical way, as presented by "Christian" religion. It does have some future significance in a spiritual way, as mankind will come to appreciate.

" _There is scarcely a greater error in the beliefs of men that retard the development of their souls than the belief that at sometime Jesus will come in all his glory and power, and take men into his heaven, just as they are, in body, soul and spirit. This belief has for a long time prevented many men from seeking to develop their soul qualities, either as to the natural love or as to the Divine Love, for as a basis of their faith is that saying in the Bible that "whosoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall be saved;" and many thinking that they have this belief, are contented therein, and further believe that because of that belief, they will be carried into the heavens of Jesus, when he comes, even though in the meantime they may have given up the Earth life._

It is deplorable that men should believe these things and live and die in this belief - which, of course, is wholly intellectual.

But such is the fact, and we spirits who know the truth, have for all the long centuries been so anxious that men should know the truth, and have been working among men by means of spirit impression, and sometimes by revelation to help them learn not only the truth, but the errors of their beliefs. And as our efforts have not been very successful, we concluded to use the means that we are now using, and to reveal to mankind in our own words and thoughts the truths of God as regards man and all things connected with him.

And here I want to say with all the emphasis that I can, that you and your friends must believe that the communications that you receive as to these truths are written by us and in our own words, and that your mind does not supply a thought or suggestion, and that you are used only as a medium to convey our thoughts, and lend your physical organs to facilitate our expressing in our own language the truths that we desire to convey.

So, no matter how improbable some things may seem to you, you must accept them as true, for nothing but the truth will be written. And further we will not allow any spirit who is not in our band, or who has not this Divine Love, to write on any of the truths that are necessary to be revealed to the world.

I thought this the proper place to say this, as I desire to assure your friend of the reality of the messages and the source from which they come."

So as Apostle John stated, I would never come and call all my followers to myself. But also note his words "And as our efforts have not been very successful, we concluded to use the means that we are now using, and to reveal to mankind in our own words and thoughts the truths of God as regards man and all things connected with him."

This demonstrates what we all felt, in that we did not feel we had been successful in times past regarding the delivery of the Divine Truth to the Earth, and we had concluded that the means we were then using were the only ones available to us. This message of course does not preclude my return.

Please refer to the message by Luke; "What is the Most Important Thing in All the World for Men to Do to Bring About the Great Millennium, Etc. (Luke — of the New Testament)." Luke is the soulmate of my daughter, Sarah, the child I conceived with my soulmate, Mary Magdelene, before I was crucified.

" _So you see, as a preliminary to the ushering in of this greatly desired time of peace and purity, men must cease to believe that it will come with the coming of Jesus in a manifested physical way, as a mortal conqueror might come with legions of followers and noises of drums and by force of arms or greatness of power subdue his enemies._

This will never be, for no man is an enemy of Jesus, but all are his brothers, and he is not now making and never will make war on any human being, only on the sin and defilement that is within his soul; and this war can never be waged by power or force of legions of angels, for so great is the power of man's will and so respected is its freedom of action by the Father, that there is no power in heaven or Earth that can or will change a sinful soul into a pure one by force and threats and conquering legions of angels, even though they might be led by Jesus, which will not happen.

No, the soul is the man, and that soul can be made pure and sinless only when that soul desires and consents that such a condition may become its own.

So, it should not be difficult for men to understand that this erroneous belief, that Jesus will come in this semblance of a human conqueror and establish this great time of peace, is doing them much harm and delaying the actual time of the coming of this event. The effect of this belief upon the soul is that everything is to be accomplished by the work of Jesus, and nothing by themselves, except to believe in his coming and wait, and be ready to be snatched up in the clouds, and then help the hosts of heaven to destroy all of their late fellow mortals who had not believed with them, and put on the robes of ascension as they literally or figuratively designate such robes.

They thus believe, and in their minds they may be honest, yet their souls may be disfigured and tainted with sin and the life's accumulation of sin, so that they could not possibly be in condition to enjoy a place of purity and freedom from sin. And some of them expect and claim that they will be the judges of others of their fellow mortals, because of the deeds done in the body, and yet in how many cases would it prove to be the blind and sinful judging the blind and sinful.

But they further claim that Jesus, by his great power, and the fact that they believed that he would come again to Earth and establish his kingdom, will in the twinkling of an eye make them fit subjects for his kingdom, and qualified to judge the unrighteous and help cast them out of his kingdom.

No, this can never be the way in which the millennium will be established, and the sooner men discard his belief and seek the truth and the true way to purity and perfection, the sooner the hope and expectation of mankind will be realized."

Of course, when reading this message in context, it can be seen that Luke was primarily referring to the false belief that I would come as a conqueror to subdue God's enemies. Of course no one is an enemy of mine since all are my brothers, and no man is an enemy of God, since all are His Children. They of course can act like an enemy, but that is not our opinion of them. Each person opposing God is just a soul who is yet to understand truth, and it is impossible to oppose God in a way that could ever damage God or His Universe. His Laws are too perfect for that to occur.

Again this message was referring to the many erroneous Christian doctrines regarding my "second coming" and the expectations of Christians. Of course I would never come in this manner to accomplish the things desired by these "Christians", and so Luke could positively make the statements he did.

Again, this message does not preclude my coming, and my coming has been prophesied in many different religious texts, so-called "Christian" and "Non-Christian".

43. Summary

So, hopefully from this discussion all of you can see how the Padgett messages do not exclude either a reincarnation in the way that I have explained, nor do they exclude our return in the manner that 13 others and I have.

Of course, my claims in this document will be proven in time, and so eventually you will look upon what I have said here and see the truth in my statements if you do not already.

Often when examining an issue people believe that there are only two answers, either an answer demonstrating truth, or one demonstrating error. But in fact, as is mentioned by myself in the Padgett messages, truth is progressive, and statements of truth can be made, and built upon. Often even errors contain portions of truth.

This does not mean that the original statements were erroneous, or that the current statements may be. Rather, there is a position that can be taken where both sets of statements are truth, but one is a limited truth based on incomplete knowledge, while the other is a more complete truth, since more knowledge has become available.

Since more knowledge is always becoming available to a soul that is progressing in its Fathers Love, then we must expect that truth is something that will also be progressive. A heart that is open to truth will look for explanations of truth, rather than attempt to deny truth and retain a position of error by examining only those matters that support their error, and dismissing explanations which may demonstrate how both positions may be truthful.

So hopefully I have added some clarity for you.

Well, this is the end of my marathon (laughs). I love all of you and hope you continue to progress in your reception of our Father's Love.

Love

Jesus

Part 4: Incarnation and Reincarnation

Some have been asking how each of the 14 of those who have been reincarnated are going spiritually, and what is involved in the process we must follow before our Father's Love can flow through us in a complete manner.

I will not discuss the progress of the different individuals, since they are all at different levels of progress, and therefore at different levels of comfort within themselves about discussing such matters with others.

44. Incarnation

But I can attempt to describe to you the process each must follow, since this process is similar for each of us, and although a similar process in some ways to the "normal" process of receiving our Father's Love, it is a little more complicated. Hopefully, after my explanation, you will understand why this is the case.

To explain why such a process is a little more complicated, we need to go back to the beginning of the progress of the un-individualized soul, and once we have the understanding of this process correctly, we can better understand the process required for the soul that has undergone the re-incarnation.

At the instant our Father desires or intends for something to exist, the thing He desires comes into existence. Of those things, our soul, and by the soul I mean the complete soul consisting of the two "halves", came into existence in the same manner. This is why I said in the first century, "Before Abraham was, I am," which meant that before the man Abraham existed in the flesh, I existed as a soul. Of course, this not only applies to myself, but also all of those souls created, including yourself, since we were all created at the instant of God's intention.

But we existed in an un-individualized form, meaning that we were not at the time conscious of our own existence or individuality. At this time, the soul could be said to have an "instinct", and many God determined actions are included within its instinct, the primary action being to find a spirit and mortal body into which to incarnate to become an individualized form. There are many other actions of course, including the feeling within the soul that it must answer the questions of life, such as "Why am I here?" "Where am I going?" "What is my purpose?" and similar questions that we all want to answer if we stay close to our feelings during our life.

Each soul could be considered in human terms to have a genetic imprint, which comes directly from our parent, our Father and Mother, who is our God and Creator. At the time of human conception, when the egg and sperm cells combine, the genetic imprint of two further bodies begins, the body of the material, which man classifies as the DNA structure of the material body, and the body of the spiritual, which man cannot classify currently, but which also has a genetic blueprint which could be considered to be similar to the material body.

I cannot at this time discuss the intricacies of this process, since, besides being very difficult for most to understand, it is not the point of my discussion. At a later time, these matters will be discussed with the medical fraternity, and I expect that their understanding of many medical and psychological procedures will deepen, with the resultant change to many medical practices currently used generally.

Now half of the soul incarnates into the body prepared. For the purposes of our discussion I shall still refer to it as the "soul", but the reader needs to consider that it is the half of the soul that I am now referring to. The "first half" of the soul may incarnate into any material body in the Earth plane, and this process is generally a "random" choice (but controlled by the Law of Attraction and mathematical in nature), in a similar nature to the "randomness" of a sperm finding and impregnating the egg in the process of reproduction. The second "half", since it has an affinity to the first half, often remains in close proximity to the first half that has become incarnated, and in almost all cases, will incarnate into a body where it has a high likelihood of finding its soulmate during its existence on the Earth. This is a provision of our Father's Love.

So the soul (remember the half of the soul), which is the real man or woman, has gained individuality, and, if left to a proper natural course, will continue its cycle of growth while contained with the spiritual and mortal bodies.

The first body that the soul becomes aware of is its mortal body. Once the brain of that body is able to adjust to its surroundings, awareness comes to the soul and that soul sees in a mirror a person, which it believes defines its existence. So, the soul which did not have an individuality, now has an individuality, and has a consciousness of the same, and believes that the person in the mirror, that others see, is the complete definition of who it is.

Now, many "souls" will go through their entire material existence without being conscious of any other part of themselves, and by this I mean that they are not really conscious that they also have a spiritual body, and a soul, which are both attached to the material body while it remains alive. Also, the soul often thinks of its material body as the "real person", since it may not be conscious of these other concurrent parallel existences of itself.

As time progresses, the mind of the spirit body, through the exercise of the brain of the material body, may begin to become aware of "spiritual things", which cannot be explained using a material analysis of the universe in which it "appears" to exist, although, I must say, is definitely supported by a scientifically open examination the material universe. This process is often accompanied by a "realization" of the existence of a higher being, which it now refers to as the "God" of which its conception may be correct or in error, depending on the information supplied by other "souls" within the material world.

Also, this same soul, while exercising its mind and brain, may become more aware of the spiritual body to which it is attached. And, in doing this, it may even come to understand the different areas where different types of information are being processed while it is having the experience within the material world. Of course, if this process does not occur while the soul is attached to the material existence, it may occur during its existence while it is attached to its spiritual existence.

While the soul has the material experience, although it may not be aware of the fact, it is concurrently having a spiritual experience, and a soul experience. All it needs is an awareness to occur before it can really live a complete experience, and this is the fact whether it is in a material or spiritual world.

So, to summarize, the soul, before incarnation, is not personally aware of its own existence, or of its own "personality". When it incarnates, during the process of living, it gains awareness, and now has individuality. Please understand that I am loosely using the term "process of living", since some material bodies perish while in their mother's womb, either by miscarriage, or by a miscarriage of love through abortion, but they nevertheless are souls with individualization.

45. Brain, Mind, and Feelings

For this soul, as it grows, its conception of life is very much initially dictated to by its parents, and then its "life teachers", which could be a combination of the schooling system, and its peer group, and the "group consciousness" of its environment. If the child at a young age were taught the truth, God's Truth, then its conception of "life" would be very different to the conception that most people now have.

Of course, this is something that will change in the next few years, since it is God's Plan, our intention is for children to be taught in a vastly different manner to the methods currently used. The current methods encourage the separation of existence to such a degree than by the time many souls leave the material world, they have learnt to deny their own feelings, which is to deny the existence of their own soul. It takes many years, even centuries or millenniums, before these individuals begin to accept the existence of their own soul and feel its feelings.

For this reason it is good to examine how we generally use our existence to process information, and the areas where the methods we used can be shown to be counter-productive to the souls growth.

Most persons believe that all information is processed within the mind, even so-called "feelings". Also, most of these same people would believe that their mind processing such feelings is their material "brain", and the feelings they feel are in their body. But, although such a thing may be believed and may seem to be the case, it is not, and this can be demonstrated relatively easily.

The material body, which includes the brain, and the nervous system, and all of the body organs, including the skin, is a perfect machine created by God for the soul's existence within a material world, and is the soul's interface to the material world, the way the soul gathers its experience in the kindergarten state of its existence. The soul experiences the material world via this machine while it is chemically attached to this machine, and all of the feelings received via this interface are processed by the soul.

The spiritual body, which includes the spirit mind and body systems and all of the spiritual body organs, is also a perfect machine created by God for the soul's existence within a spiritual world. The soul experiences the spiritual world via this machine while it is attached to this machine, and all of the feelings received via this interface are processed by the soul.

The complete soul in the end does not need these bodies to exist. Once the soul has obtained complete individuality of its two halves, and has grown in the Essence of God's Love, both of these bodies are not required, and the completely individualized soul (the re-combined two halves) is capable of interfacing with all the worlds of God's Creation without them. These bodies have been created by our Father to enable the soul during its growth to experience growth in a gradual and experiential manner, for the purpose of this soul gaining a conception and definition of the personality of itself, to enable a half of the soul to exist without its mate, and to allow the soul to find its way to the Father.

However, unfortunately, mankind generally, both collectively and individually, attempts to destroy the soul from very early in the soul's existence in the human form. He does this by attempting to minimize the "feelings", and to maximize the logic, and this is generally done because those teaching the child these things have so much personal pain and suffering they deny, that they also wish to create an attitude of denial within their own children.

I feel a modern day song by Super Tramp called "The Logical Song" best describes this. Its words are:

"WHEN I WAS YOUNG

IT SEEMED THAT LIFE WAS SO WONDERFUL

A MIRACLE, OH IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, MAGICAL

AND ALL THE BIRDS IN THE TREES

WELL THEY´D BE SINGING SO HAPPILY

OH JOYFULLY, OH PLAYFULLY WATCHING ME

BUT THEN THEY SENT ME AWAY

TO TEACH ME HOW TO BE SENSIBLE

LOGICAL, OH RESPONSIBLE, PRACTICAL

AND THEY SHOWED ME A WORLD

WHERE I COULD BE SO DEPENDABLE

OH CLINICAL, OH INTELLECTUAL, CYNICAL

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ALL THE WORLD´S ASLEEP

THE QUESTIONS RUN TOO DEEP

FOR SUCH A SIMPLE MAN

WON´T YOU PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WE´VE LEARNED

I KNOW IT SOUNDS ABSURD

BUT PLEASE TELL ME WHO I AM

NOW WATCH WHAT YOU SAY

OR THEY´LL BE CALLING YOU A RADICAL

A LIBERAL, OH FANATICAL, CRIMINAL

OH WON´T YOU SIGN UP YOUR NAME

WE´D LIKE TO FEEL YOU´RE

ACCEPTABLE, RESPECTABLE, OH PRESENTABLE, A VEGETABLE!

AT NIGHT WHEN ALL THE WORLD´S ASLEEP

THE QUESTIONS RUN TOO DEEP

FOR SUCH A SIMPLE MAN

WON´T YOU PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WE´VE LEARNED

I KNOW IT SOUNDS ABSURD

BUT PLEASE TELL ME WHO I AM, WHO I AM, WHO I AM, WHO I AM."

The result, after this process, is a person who can "function" in today's society, as a thinking being, but is unable to function as a feeling soul. Because of this, very few people are able to correctly define who they are, and, in the search for more meaning of their own existence, they take further "logical" actions that can finish up being very soul destroying.

So there is a large difference between "feelings" processed in the mind, which I would call pseudo-feelings, in contrast to true feelings of the soul. Pseudo-feelings are those created by others, and generally are triggered by guilt, shame, peer pressure, parental training, and other related causes that can all be summarized by one word, FEAR. True feelings of the soul are ignored because of FEAR.

This often occurs when we are dealing with children. When a child, of say 5 years old, is crying, we will often say, "You don't need to cry." You hear many parents say various degrees of things, some well meaning, and others very unloving. "Big boys don't cry". "Do you want everyone thinking you're a cry-baby?" "Shut up, or I'll give you something to cry about", "You're making too much noise, everyone is watching you," and so forth.

By the time a child has reached their teenage years, they have been taught to bottle up their feelings, to minimize them, misrepresent them, lie about them, deny them, and refuse to discuss them. Since feelings are of the soul, they have bottled up their soul, minimized their soul, misrepresented their soul, lied about their soul, denied their soul, and refuse to discuss matters of the soul. When they are a teenager, and they seem sad, and you ask them if they want to cry, they will say, "I do not feel like crying!" This is a pseudo-feeling, manufactured by a mind trained to deny feelings of the soul.

So how do they live? They live very unhappily in their mind only. And they spend much of the rest of their time on Earth, and also in the spirit world, undoing the damage that we as parents, and that the system we have created and allowed to exist, have done to them.

Of course, I will have much more to say about the subject of FEAR, and the damage to the soul that is done by a person taught to live in their mind only, but I would like to get back to the subject at hand.

The soul, the true you, is the feelings, desires, intentions, aspirations, inspirations, which then, if allowed to exist and flourish, will trigger thoughts and actions that are the outward expression of these feelings. The greatest of these feelings firstly is the emotion of God's Love coming to the soul, and the happiness this brings. Secondly, it is the emotions of love between soulmates. Thirdly, it is the feelings of love for our true brothers and sisters, since we are all God's Children, and we have the same Father and Mother.

Any time we are not governed by our true feelings, desires, intentions, aspirations and inspirations, then we could be said to be living in our mind, not in our soul. This is where the majority live, and they continue to live even when they pass from the material existence into the spiritual existence.

So the goal of the soul incarnated is to learn to live in this place, this beautiful feeling place, of true feelings, desires, intentions, aspirations and inspirations. There is no other place equal to it, and when obtained, when in harmony with God's Personal Love, and the perfect Laws of God, that results in the supreme happiness coming from living in this place, this place of bliss. It is our Father's intention that we all come to live here, and He desires that all take personal action so that this is possible.

To summarize, although the soul now has individuality, most humans and spirits have learned to live in the mind only, which is just one minor part of the capability of the soul, and most wish to deny all feelings, since they have much pain and suffering associated with the feelings.

The soul, once incarnated, has memory of, and feelings associated with, its existence that it experiences in the material and spiritual worlds, and often uses these memories and experiences to define itself. Often the true feelings of the soul have often been denied and buried by that experience, and so the soul learns to enjoy and experience the thought, intellectual and moral experiences only, and ignores the soul. Until the soul has an awakening of its condition, it will remain in such a condition, in various degrees of relative happiness.

46. Identity

For a soul that has been incarnated, and did not have a previous conscious existence or previous experience in the material or spiritual worlds, the process of growth, although severely limited by the environment as I have shown, does not usually have any "crisis of identity" except that caused by the denial of its own experiences and feelings living within the environment I have demonstrated.

So, a soul having no previous existence, and brought up to live in its feelings, usually does not question its own identity, since it accepts its own identity relatively easily if it has been taught to do so. The person it sees in the mirror it generally recognizes as itself (except perhaps after a "bad" night!).

It may live in the mind, mostly because it has been taught to do so by its environment, and it may accept its own feelings, especially when those feelings are defined as "good", and it may come to reject other feelings, especially when those feelings to be rejected are painful, and thus considered "bad."

But when this soul begins the process of praying for, and receiving God's Love, it begins to transfer its sphere of primary operation from that of the material world, into that of the soul. So, it begins to FEEL. Often the first feelings it FEELS are those defined as "bad" because they are painful, which have been previously denied and not felt. This is because the soul has a memory of all feelings, and if these feelings are not felt and released, then at some time in the future, when we begin the process of feeling, they will be the first feelings we feel.

We are not made to deny any feelings. In fact, although it is possible to deny feelings with the mind by making the choice to do so, the soul still stores these feelings, and this storage of unresolved feelings causes much injury to the spiritual and physical bodies, and is manifested generally in sickness and diseases that are preventable (not genetic). The more we deny our feelings, the more pressure is placed on the physical and spiritual bodies, and our immune systems cannot deal with this emotional pressure, and so sickness is the result.

When we begin to receive of God's Divine Love, the result will be that we will begin to feel, and usually our soul has a large container full of unresolved, unfelt, old feelings. Hence, what begins is a time of pain and suffering, while we now no longer deny the true feelings of the soul, and our mind allows all of the feelings, even though they may feel "bad." But this is a process of emotional clearing, and the more "bad" feelings we let out of our "container of unprocessed feelings", the more beautiful feelings of God's Love are able to enter.

During this process, eventually physical sickness disappears, and our material and spiritual bodies make a real transformation, and we become much happier. Our spiritual condition, which is a reflection of true condition of the soul, also becomes brighter and more radiant, and can be seen by anyone who can see the spirit body, or by those persons on Earth who can read what is said to be the human aura.

During this process though, the soul that has been incarnated only once, will feel like it is becoming its true self, and it still can identify itself, and it does not feel like denying the process, except when the feelings become strong and sometimes feel overwhelming.

47. Reincarnation

So now we come to the difference between the process of coming into the soul for the soul incarnated, and the process of coming into soul for the reincarnated.

During the phase just described, for the reincarnated soul, the feelings are almost exactly the opposite. The re-incarnated soul will feel like it is destructing its true self, and finds it difficult to identify itself, and the feelings to attempt denial are overwhelming, particularly initially.

The reason for this is that the reincarnated soul has obtained a very large degree of feelings, emotions, knowledge, and experience, say from 2000 years or more of existence. But the material and spiritual bodies of the reincarnated soul have only had a short experience, of say 20 years as an example.

During this time of 20 years, it was impossible for the spirit and material bodies to accept everything the soul of 2000 years has experienced, without the spirit and material bodies being in the condition where they are able to accept 2000 years of existence of a soul, remembering that this soul has experienced the majority of those 2000 years IN A DIFFERENT material and spiritual body.

So the soul does not recognize the material and spirit bodies to which it is attached, or, it may be more accurate to say that the mind of the spirit body does not know the soul's complete self, and the temptation of the reincarnated soul to deny its own feelings and to live in the mind only, rather than in the feelings of the soul, are much greater than that experienced by the initial incarnated soul.

The process the reincarnated soul must voluntarily accept is one of accepting that the material and spiritual bodies that it inhabits are machines only, and the 20 or so years that have defined that experience are not the individual, but rather, are a 20 year experience of the individual which has 2000 years or longer of total experience. Whereas the incarnated soul in a similar condition and desirous of God's Love needs to accept just the opposite, that the 20 or so years that have defined that experience are the individual.

The reincarnated soul needs to accept that the person it sees in the mirror is not the person it would have seen for the last 2000 years, and that the person it sees in the mirror will come to no longer exist. For this reason there is no such thing as the soul of that person in the mirror, but rather a soul that has 2000 years of experience inhabits this machine he sees in the mirror.

Also, the reincarnated soul then also needs to come to understand that the material and spirit bodies that have been a short time in existence are not capable in their current condition of accepting and processing all of the feelings, memories and experiences of the 2000 year old soul contained within. To obtain the condition required, the Power of God's Love in abundance is necessary. To obtain this Love, the spirit and physical bodies must be brought into a condition of acceptance, and then God's Love can again flow by means of the Holy Spirit and complete the work.

So while the reincarnated soul cannot accept or conceive within its mind these matters, it cannot ever accept itself, and it will continue to live in a condition of various degrees of unhappiness. Once it comes to understand its own identity, and then begins to accept that identity mentally, then it has the ability to begin the process of prayer and supplication to its Father, which will get the physical and spiritual bodies into a condition where they are able to accept the memories, feelings and experiences of the 2000 or so year old soul.

During this process, it will come to accept firstly the feelings that have been impressed upon the soul during this incarnation, which can be quite painful, and then to experience the feelings of the soul during its previous earthly incarnation, including the manner of its ushering into the spiritual world, which again for quite a number of us in the first century was quite painful, and finally to experience the feelings of the soul during its journey through the spirit and soul worlds, which are awe inspiring.

Once these feelings are processed, which will be done without any clear conscious memory of the events (since all the memory at this stage will be feelings only), then God's Love can come in a complete degree and finalize the purification of the spiritual and physical bodies that soul now inhabits. Since the material and spiritual bodies are unable to perform this process instantaneously, it will take time for this purification to complete. Once this process is complete, all of the experiences, knowledge, feelings and thoughts of that soul will come into the consciousness of the young spiritual mind, and the physical brain, which in its perfect state is capable of assimilating this information and processing it.

Once we are in that state, then we are ready for the work ahead. Until we are there, we are preparing our lives so that when we get there, our lives are free of the encumbrances that may prevent the process from completing.

When I first posted information on the Divine Love forum, I mentioned that there is a process that must be completed, and that time was necessary for its completion. The process I have described above is the process I mention, and although it is not a complete description of what is required, hopefully this summary will better help you to understand what is now being accomplished by different ones of the 14 of us.

Of the 14 of us, there are a few who are very near the completion of this process, and there are a few who have yet to begin the process. Those who are yet to begin have not begun because of the various conditions of acceptance of who they are. The mind must first accept the possibility of their own identity being someone else other than the person they see in the mirror, and then be able to accept the process of investigating that possibility.

I know who each of the 14 are, and where they are. In some cases I do not have a conscious recollection of their current identity (their name and address etc), but the majority of cases I do know their current identity as well. I am also aware of the spiritual condition of each, but to explain how I know these things would take many more pages of writing, and perhaps still would not be understood by the reader. The explanation has to do with concurrent parallel simultaneous existences in different "dimensions", two of which are not time dependent. But, as I said, the main point is that all are in a state of various degrees preparation depending on the outworking of God's Plan.

Our Father never does an unnecessary thing, and so, when events or situations are needed, then events occur. Such is the case regarding our own readiness.

So hopefully, in this discussion, you can understand not only the process of incarnation, and why different feelings and thoughts may be present within your own being, but also the process of reincarnation to a certain extent, and why time is required for that process to become complete.

Thank you for taking the time to read though this message, and I hope this message finds you all well, and in various states of progression.

I love you, and am your brother and friend

Jesus

48. Part 5: First Response Letter to Cathy

48.1. Introduction

Hello again Cathy

It is good to hear from you again, and to also see that you are trying to resolve some of your own inner conflicts, especially regarding the teaching of reincarnation. You have many questions, which I will answer for you, but before I do, I need to make a few comments about your own emotions that may assist you through this process.

God inbuilt into each soul many attributes and qualities that would enable the soul to eventually discover Absolute Truth. You could say that these attributes are instinctual in nature to the soul, and I will discuss them further below because it relates to some of your deeper questions. But for now, remember that the mind and brain, which is of the spiritual body and material body respectively, is not capable of understanding the soul, and so, if we try and resolve questions without using our own emotions, then we will always come to have a struggle, and this struggle is like a war between our mind and our soul.

One of the emotions that you are currently struggling through is a fear about the truth/untruth of the reincarnation issue. You want to have the "right answer", which is understandable, but you desire this answer without recognizing the emotions within you that cause you to desire to hold onto the belief as you have come to believe it. Some of these emotions revolve around your beliefs about God, and so I want to highlight some of those emotions in order for you to examine how you view God.

The problem with emotions of injury is that they color our ability to "feel" things clearly at the soul level, and therefore influence our being able to "see" the Absolute Truth. If we did not have this baggage, we would rapidly understand many truths about God, and these truths about our Creator could then be utilized in our discovery of other Truths. Once we know the Nature, Qualities and Attributes of our Creator, it then makes sense that we can apply these things about God into learning about His Creation. In other words, if we attempt to find truth without understanding God's Nature, Attributes and Qualities, then all we have left to determine truth is our own reasoning and feelings, which at times may be correct, but at other times may also be incorrect.

48.2. God's Nature

The teaching of reincarnation as you have believed it, and the teachings that are presented by Eastern and New Age philosophies, cut right to the core of a basic issue about God's Nature, and that is the issue surrounding whether God is a God of Love. So let's feel emotionally for a while about this issue, and how it affects our concept of God.

Firstly, it is logical to believe (even intellectually), that if God created mankind, then God must have much deeper and more pure Qualities and Attributes than the best of mankind. Just as a person cannot create something that firstly does not exist within themselves as a concept or idea, so too, God would not be able to create something that does not exist potentially within Himself. If you have children, you wish to love these children, care for them physically, emotionally and spiritually, and although you would respect their right of free will choice, you would also desire that they are able to avoid any personal pain. You would never purposely create pain for them, or inflict pain on them, and you would never create laws in the household or elsewhere that would purposely damage your own children and cause them to experience pain for whatever reason. Of course, you would understand that there are times they will have pain, because at times they may ignore your teachings, and choose to do things that create that pain (such as put their hand on a hot stove). But you would not force them to place their hand on a hot stove in order to teach them about the dangers of heat, as that would be child abuse. Even some of the worst criminals in the world would not teach their own children in this manner, so it makes sense that God also would not.

So the question becomes; does God want us to learn by experiencing pain? The answer, most obviously, is a resounding No, because God actually wants us to learn, and has always wanted us to learn, by just trusting Him and listening to Him. Is this not just as we would like our own children to learn, by trusting us and listening to us? But the beautiful gift of free will means that we can choose to not listen to God, if that is our desire, and He will not punish us for that choice. However, once we choose to ignore God and not trust what He is teaching us, then we must go through the process of discovery of the Laws of God for ourselves.

This is similar to the child feeling within itself; "I don't believe you mum that if I touch the hot stove I will get burned, so I am going to try it myself and see!" Now of course, if a child refuses to accept the personal teaching you are attempting to give it, then it has no choice but to experience the event, and see by it's own experience whether you were telling the truth. The resultant pain is a product of the child's refusal or lack of desire to trust is parent.

Now if the child burnt itself and the child refuses to take personal responsibility for it's actions, the child could blame the parent, and say that the parent should never have created the stove in the first place, and it is the parent's entire fault that the child is in pain. Of course, because of free will the child could hold onto that belief for the rest of it's existence, if it so desired, and also when it became an adult, teach it's own children the same belief. More fully utilizing it's own free will, the child could even manufacture complete belief systems around its parent designed to understand why the parent supposedly did what he or she did, in an effort to explain to itself and its eventual children why the "parent did such a painful thing in the first place", even though the parent was not really responsible for the pain the child experienced because it came from a free will choice of the child.

In the same manner, the pain and suffering we experience in our own life is based around a refusal to trust our own Parent, or ignorance about our Parent, who is our Creator, God. When we refuse (either by choice or ignorance) to listen and learn from our Creator, we then place ourselves in a condition where we must now learn for ourselves, and this process will be one of trial and error, where sometimes we get hurt because we have broken the laws that maintain the universe. This is why the first sin, that of walking away from God, was so enormous. It created a circumstance where now the human race, due to damaged emotions being projected onto subsequent generations, desires to maintain self-reliance rather than allowing themselves to be taught in a gentler manner that is without personal pain by God directly.

God Loves us, and does not wish us to learn through pain. But God also had to create laws to maintain the universes (which include all the dimensions/realities of the different universes), so that the universes would not be able to be destroyed by wayward children. You could say that God created the potentiality of our waywardness, by giving us the gift of free will, but this would be the same as trying to make an argument that we should not give our child a toy, because our child may bash another child with the toy. How a gift is used is the responsibility of the person receiving the gift.

Besides the Divine Love, the gift of free will is the greatest of all gifts, because it means that we have total self-determination. Any gift can be used for good or bad, and unfortunately, man has generally in the past used most of the gifts of God for badness. Any teaching that suggests we must learn through pain does not fully understand God's Nature, Personality, Attributes and Qualities. This teaching that God intends we learn through pain also attributes to God emotions that are worse than the worst of mankind's emotions, because it basically says that God is an abusive Father who desires our pain so that we can eventually have a "complete experience".

48.3. Learning From Personal Pain

Your view of reincarnation partially expressed was:

" _I felt reincarnation a progress of the experiential for the soul in that to experience the spectrum of all there is in human incarnations. Such as: murderer, saint, poor, rich, black, white, red, yellow, brown, woman, man, king, pauper, wife, husband, father, mother, prostitute, virgin, and on and on, etc. For me, reincarnation made sense in that abortion, still-birth, mental retardation, mental and physical challenges, being murdered or dying as a child, and those born in primitive societies and I could go on and on. I know I have heard, even from those who believe in reincarnation, that they really didn't want to come back again to experience life in the flesh. I sure said it."_

The reincarnation teachings as they are presented by Eastern and New Age philosophies, and the teaching that you have modified in order to attempt a better personal understanding, are based partially around the supposition that pain is required in order to learn. But this is not correct, since the human soul is totally capable of learning without painful experiences.

Of course, pain is a required part of learning if we decide to ignore law, but our desire to choose to ignore law is based around our own lack of humility or personal ignorance. When we desire self-reliance, then we also deny a painless way of learning, because we are going to have to learn through trial and error before we come to a complete understanding. The most effective way of learning law is to develop a relationship with the Creator of all Law, and, as His Love enters us, our heart feels what is right. This is what the "heart of stone becoming a heart of flesh" means, and it is what happens when we are "re-born" in God's Love.

48.4. Painful Experiences Not Chosen

Collectively, mankind decided long ago to become completely self-reliant. Since then, there have been individuals who desired to be childlike and God-reliant, but the general path of mankind has not only been to ignore God-reliance, but also to punish or harm those who have chosen God-reliance. Each child is incarnated with a desire for God-reliance, but, shortly after incarnation, children begin to take on the emotional and spiritual condition of their parents, and these parental emotions are absorbed by the child's soul, and damage the child's soul in some cases almost beyond recognition. The major damage comes from a spirit of self-reliance.

Because of the collective decisions of mankind, persons exist on the Earth and in the lower regions of the spirit world in a disastrous personal emotional and spiritual condition. These ones continue a path of walking away from God until their own personal pain becomes extreme, and eventually they come to their "senses" and wake up to the fact that they are continuing to harm themselves even further. However, before that occurs, their desires include the desire to harm others, and they continue to do this until they have a soul awakening and become remorseful about their own decisions and spiritual condition.

Others they harm are often innocent children, but whether innocent or guilty of sin ourselves, we often are harmed by either the individual or collective action of others. Each individual on Earth who ever arrives here needs to come to the personal conclusion that we all have a collective responsibility for all of the badness that does occur here, and, if we decide to ignore our collective responsibility, then we become a partaker in the collective sins of mankind by our inaction. Many persons who have decided to remain aloof to the problems of mankind while on Earth, and have ignored these problems and not attempted to assist mankind onto a better path to the best of the personal ability, are often surprised that there was a penalty associated with that decision when they arrived in the spirit world.

The murderer did not become the murderer for no reason. The child abuser did not become the child abuser for no reason. The thief did not become the thief for no reason. Children do not die from malnutrition for no reason. The liar, the cheat, the embezzler, the adulterer, the prostitute, the suicide, the wars, the famines, the diseases, the disasters, all do not happen for no reason. Each has it's own emotional and spiritual cause, and collectively we are responsible for both the creation of these things, and the eradication of these things that bring pain to mankind. When we see our personal responsibility, we are galvanized into action.

In time, our Father and the operation of His Universal Laws on the soul correct all of these emotional and spiritual injuries. It is unfortunate that for most people these corrections do not happen until they enter the spirit world, and come face to face with the complete results of all of their actions.

48.5. The Soul's Pre-Existence

The soul, before incarnation, exists as a complete soul (with it's two halves united). As I said in the Padgett messages:

" _The soul prior to such appearance had its existence in the spirit world as a substantial conscious entity, although without visible form, and, I may say, individuality, but yet, having a distinct personality, so that it was different from every other soul."_

The soul before incarnation begins as a complete soul (the combination of it's two halves), and while this soul has personality, it does not have individuality in the sense that it is not personally aware of its own identity. It also has yet to experience anything consciously, in a way that it can remember, and so, it is without personal awareness. The way in which it gains awareness is that it incarnates in two processes, with one half incarnating into a body, and then the other half incarnating into another body at some future time closely following the time of incarnation of the first half.

When one half of the soul incarnates, the choice of the incarnated vessel (the spiritual and material bodies) is determined by the gender attractions of the half of the soul incarnating, and attractions at the soul level of its parents and environment. Firstly, the half of the soul has an affinity or attraction to its own gender form in the material, which can be a male or female body (in other words, if the half of the soul is predominately masculine in nature, it will incarnate into a masculine form, if predominately feminine in nature, into a female form). Secondly, the half of the soul has a gender attraction to its soulmate, and this determines its earthly sexual attraction. If the half of the soul is masculine, and has a female attraction, then its soulmate will be female, and have a male attraction. If the half of the soul is masculine, and has a male attraction, then its soulmate will be male. If the half of the soul is feminine, and has a male attraction, then its soulmate will be in a male form, and attracted to a female. If the half of the soul is feminine, and has a female attraction, then its soulmate will be in a female form, and attracted to a female.

All human sexuality is determined either by the soul's attractions, or by emotional injuries. Unfortunately, due to emotional injuries, human sexuality often becomes confused.

So, the soul does have a pre-existence before incarnation, but it does not have a consciousness of its own identity because it has not had any personal experience, nor a consciousness of its own existence, and the process of incarnation is to individualize the soul and allow the soul to begin (in two halves) a process of gaining personal experience and personal awareness.

The soul before incarnation does not personally understand the great gift of free will. It is only after incarnation that the soul now has the ability to learn about this gift, by exercising its free will through experience. So the soul that existed before incarnation did not know of its own existence, nor did it know of, or understand how to exercise, the personal gift of free will. Incarnation gives the soul the ability to now consciously experience itself, and the universe, and also to grow in its ability to understand and exercise the gift of free will.

Laws though, govern the actual incarnation process, and these laws are both attraction based and mathematical in their operation. Since a soul not yet incarnated neither is conscious of itself nor its gift of free will, the soul at first incarnation CANNOT choose its parents as is commonly believed. The process of the first incarnation is a process determined by the Law of Attraction and mathematics of a complexity that mankind is only just beginning to discover (such as chaos theory and quantum physics), and these forms of mathematics form a part of the laws that have been constructed by God for many events, including the events surrounding the incarnation of the soul yet to be individualized.

Race and colour are a part of the potential variety our Father created within the human body's genetic structure. Unfortunately, due to emotional injuries and environmental factors, man often segregated himself by colour and race, and, as any geneticist is aware, this creates firm bloodlines of consistent colour. Race and colour are also in the spirit body, since the spirit body begins its spiritual journey as a mirror of the material. However, once a soul union is performed by the soul (above the Celestial kingdom), there is no longer any body attached to the complete soul (since the soul has now recombined into its complete self), and there is no longer any race or colour. As a spirit progresses towards at-onement with God, all traces of the physical become only memories that shaped the personalized experiences of the soul.

When a soul has been previously individualized through the process of incarnation, and it has grown to the point in its progression where it now has recombined with its soulmate, and is no longer in a spirit body, or a material body, it has also become complete and at-one with God. It now has the ability to exercise its free will in a fully developed manner, and only needs to operate in harmony with the Laws of Divine Love. Since the Laws of Divine Love are more powerful in scope and operation than all other laws, this allows the soul in this condition to live in a manner that is free from other laws that it previously was subjected to, including the mathematical laws involved in the first incarnation.

So, a half of the soul at-one with the Father, and at-one with it's soulmate, can divest itself of its spirit and material bodies, and also has the ability to reincarnate in harmony with the Law of Divine Love. A soul in this condition has the ability to choose almost everything about the reincarnation process, as long as its choices remain in harmony God's Laws.

A person who is a computer programmer would understand the analogies of object oriented processing. In this form of computing, an object has attributes (or characteristics) that can be changed by changing properties. For example, the property called "hair colour", may be white, brown, blonde, grey, black etc. Also, an object may be able to be passed through a process. For example the object called "vehicle" may be able to be passed through different processes, one called "paint", one called "wash", one called "accident" and so forth, which all modify or add to the characteristics of the object.

In a similar way, the soul that is now completely conscious of our Father's Laws regarding incarnation, and has also become at-one with God in His Love, and is in a complete state with it's soulmate, can now choose both the characteristics associated with its new planned experience of reincarnation, and also choose the process, but only within the boundaries formulated by the soul's original Creator, and these boundaries are the laws God formulated. So, at first incarnation, the soul has its choices made for it by mathematical processes, which are the Incarnation Laws of God, while for any subsequent incarnation (reincarnation) the soul itself can determine a variety of selection variables because it now understands the incarnation process and the parts of the process it can select by its own will.

48.6. Reincarnation

Incarnation is a mathematical process determined by laws God has created. This is very similar to the many other laws governing the operation of the natural (physical and spiritual) universes or dimensions.

A soul that develops in Divine Love and reaches the soul dimension or universe, can reincarnate by utilizing these laws. However, this decision is never for the purpose of progression, nor is it for the purpose of gaining a multitude of personal Earth-based experiences. The decision is based on one factor only, and that is love. Once the soul is in the soul dimension, its desires closely mirror the desires of our heavenly Creator, the primary one of which is love for our fellow siblings, who are also the children of our Creator.

Because the soul now has completely learned to express its free will, and its desire is in harmony with Divine Love, the soul may or may not decide to return to Earth. This decision is made in harmony with our Divine Parent's Will, and it is not a necessary decision for the individual soul to continue its eternal personal development.

The structure of the spirit world proves in itself that spiritual progression can occur without a soul returning to Earth, and, in fact, a soul cannot return to Earth without first reaching a certain condition. If souls could return to Earth in any condition, then the Earth itself would become a place of more and more defilement and error, because the souls most desirous of returning would be those in the worst condition (since the souls in better condition and in a better and more loving location would generally naturally desire to remain in that location rather than returning to a more unloving location). There are many souls in a spirit body (not yet combined, so they are half souls) in the lower regions of the first sphere (called the hells) who would return to the Earth in a flash if they knew how, and these spirits in a bad condition would then create even more damage on the Earth. God's Laws, although allowing spirits in the first sphere to influence people on Earth, do not allow for them to return through reincarnation.

48.7. Some Reasons Why So Many Believe in Reincarnation of All Persons For The Purpose of Soul Progression as Currently Taught

Well, there are very many reasons why both persons on Earth and in the spirit world currently believe that reincarnation is a process that all persons have experienced as a method to refine the soul. But I must state again that only 7 soulmate pairs reincarnated in the first "wave", and they are now 14 people, one of whom has already passed into the spirit world again. The first reincarnation experience on this Earth occurred in 1962. Others of course in the future may reincarnate, depending on their desire.

The following text addresses some of the reasons why mortals and spirits who have never personally experienced reincarnation currently believe they have.

48.7.1. Reason 1

Spirits in the first sphere in a dark condition want to return to Earth again, because they feel very limited in the satisfaction of their evil emotions and desires in the location they exist. These spirits include those who are "Earth-bound". The only way they have found they can continue to experience feelings they miss (such as friendship, rapport, sex, drinking, drugs, etc) is by connecting himself or herself to the material form (physical body) of a person already living. Not all of these spirits are evil in their intentions, but all are trying to get something they now "miss" in their location in the spirit world.

When they connect to the body of the person who is still in a material form, they can, to a certain extent, experience some of the feelings that the mortal themselves experiences. In this way, they obtain a temporary degree of satisfaction for the desires they feel they cannot satisfy by living in the spirit world. Sometimes these desires all all-consuming, and result in these spirits being "attached" to the mortal throughout the mortals earthly existence, from the time of incarnation (shortly after conception) until their passing.

They do this by generating within a person living on Earth a desire for their (the spirit's) company, through the Law of Attraction. In order to generate a desire within the person living on Earth in a material form, they may choose a person who is susceptible to influence, and then they "feed" them with personal emotions and pictures that cause the person to feel they have experienced the life of the spirit who is desirous of an attachment.

Now the spirit can remain permanently with the individual without the person on Earth feeling there is something wrong with the connection. Many physical illnesses are the result of this connection. Since the spirit is now connected to the person, they can vicariously experience sensations through the physical body that the spirit no longer believes are available in the spirit world.

Practices often encouraged by mediums and psychologists, such as "Past Life Regression" and "Hypnosis", actually allow a spirit to make this initial connection with a person, and, if the therapist sincerely believes it is a personal experience of the client, and the client becomes receptive to the thoughts of the spirit and the therapist during these kinds of "therapy", then a permanent link between the spirit and the client is established which becomes difficult to break.

It is in the interest of spirits in this condition to teach and cause people on Earth to believe in reincarnation so that these spirits can continue to maintain a connection with individuals on Earth, and live their lives by experiencing some of the Earth-based emotions they miss terribly when they pass over.

48.7.2. Reason 2

Many spirits leave the first sphere for the second sphere in a process of "disappearance". Since the 1st sphere spirits do not understand what happened (as often the spirit passing into the 2nd sphere also does not understand what is about to happen), they often believe that the person has returned to Earth rather than that the spirit has progressed to the second sphere.

It is only generally understood when the second spirit passes into the 2nd sphere, and then meets its friend again that is realized that it was wrong about the person coming back to the Earth.

Because these spirits sincerely believe in reincarnation while they are in the 1st sphere, and they believe that the spirits who disappear have gone back to Earth, they then teach the mediums and people with whom they communicate on Earth that reincarnation as taught by Eastern philosophies or the New Age movement is correct. This is a sincere belief by some, but once they progress to spheres above the 1st, in time, although they may still believe in the doctrine, they have also learnt they can progress without returning to Earth, and so the doctrine becomes less important. However, there are a large variety of spirits even into the 6th sphere that still believe in the doctrine or in slightly modified versions of the doctrines as presented on Earth.

48.7.3. Reason 3

Many spirits in the 6th sphere are now aware, and have been aware for some time (almost 45 years at the time of writing to you), that reincarnation has actually occurred. However, they do not understand HOW it occurred, they only know it has occurred. Since in the past 45 years, the more advanced spirits of the spirit world are aware some form of reincarnation has occurred, many of them have become very enthusiastic about the reincarnation belief as a method of transcending the from the 6th sphere into the 7th sphere.

These spirits are not spirits who are progressing on the Divine Path, and they have many various beliefs that are erroneous about the spirits who are in the 7th sphere and above. A person who has not received Divine Love cannot understand how to get into the 7th sphere, and there are many millions of spirits experimenting with all kinds of theories in the 6th sphere in an attempt to move from the 6th sphere into the 7th sphere.

Of course, these same spirits are very self-reliant, and refuse to accept the truths of our Father and that I am His messenger of Truth. So they refuse to listen to the "Christian spirits" as they call them regarding the way to be reborn in Divine Love. So they also refuse to accept the truths that have been taught in my name over the past 2,000 years, the truths of Divine Love. If they could accept these teachings, they would realize how to move from the 6th sphere into the higher spheres (or dimensions), but their pride, self-reliance, and misguided beliefs about God generally prevent the acceptance of these teachings.

These 6th sphere spirits have become very active in their focus onto the Earth in the last 45 years, because they believe the secret to their own progression has something to do with reincarnation. Many of these spirits have existed in the 6th sphere for tens of thousands of years, and during this time have become more frustrated with their own lack of progression to higher spheres. For this reason, they have become very insistent in their teaching of the doctrine of reincarnation in its various forms on the Earth with any medium or person who will listen, because they believe their own happiness depends in some way upon emotional acceptance of the doctrine.

48.7.4. Reason 4

Many people on Earth want an answer as to the question of pain and suffering on the Earth, and so, in an effort to personally understand, they are willing to accept the doctrines of reincarnation as an explanation for their personal pain. Also, many of these persons have some very large emotional injuries regarding God, and what is called "Christianity" (which is in fact a very large distortion of the truths I taught in the first century), and so they do not wish to accept some of the Truths of God. They prefer the concept of complete self-determination without God, which of course is possible, but such self-determination will only result in a person ever reaching the development of the 6th sphere.

These emotional injuries prevent the acceptance of Divine Truth, and create feelings of self-reliance and a desire for intellectual development rather than soul development. So, both mortals and spirits in this condition may prefer to accept the doctrines of reincarnation currently taught on Earth and in the spirit world, but which are in error, rather than taking personal responsibility for their current feelings and emotions.

48.7.5. Reason 5

Many spirits in the lower spheres are able to sense the thoughts, personality and past experiences of other spirits whom they cannot see because the spirits they cannot see but can sense, are of a higher soul development. Often a spirit guide of higher development will connect with a person on Earth in order to guide and assist the person on Earth in their spiritual progression. Also, each person living on Earth is also generally assigned a guardian spirit, and both of these spirits (guide and guardian) are always in a higher soul condition (more developed in natural love) than the person who is living on Earth is.

However, when a spirit of a lesser development in love (either natural or Divine) perhaps living in the 1st or 2nd sphere of the spirit world, investigates the conditions surrounding a person on Earth, they are often not of a sufficient personal development themselves to be able to see other spirits that surround that same person. Since spirits of lesser soul development can read some of the thoughts, emotions and memories of those spirits of higher development who are guardians and guides, without actually personally "seeing" them, they then often assume that these thoughts, memories and emotions belong to a past life of the person living on Earth, rather than correctly allocating these experiences to spirits whom they cannot see that surround and guide the person on Earth.

The spirit in a lower condition then makes some false assumptions regarding these thoughts, memories and feelings, and assumes that these thoughts, memories and feelings must belong to the person on Earth during their experience of a previous life, rather than correctly determining that they belong to a spirit whom they just cannot see, but who is with the person on Earth in a protective capacity.

The spirit in a lower condition then also deduces from these "facts" that past lives are truth, and then use this "truth" as a basis for their own teachings when they try to influence people on Earth. I have personally talked with many spirits in this condition, and when they discover and try the experiments surrounding Divine Love, they often now learn the complete truth, and are shocked at the discovery that there is another explanation other than reincarnation and past lives that they had not previously considered.

Of course, there are many other reasons for a person choosing to retain a belief in reincarnation which is not in harmony with Divine Truth, and I have only mentioned a few.

Anyway, Cathy, I hope that this has answered some more of your questions, and that you are able to look at the emotional reasons why you have such an attachment to this doctrine. Since you are very mediumistic, you have some spirits with you who desire you to retain your belief on this subject. If they could be honest with you about how they feel, and you can also talk to them about the potential of their being able to progress without reincarnation this would help you a lot.

Invite some spirits from above the 6th sphere to come and talk to them about the path of Divine Love, and encourage them to listen to these spirits, since they have progressed above the 6th sphere without needing to return to Earth using reincarnation. If these spirits are not willing to listen to you, then very carefully consider for yourself why these spirits would want you to maintain a belief so strongly, bearing in mind that they themselves have never experienced reincarnation.

Please do not hesitate to ask more questions if you have them, but I will be away for a while and will not be able to respond immediately.

Thank you for being open with your questions.

Cheers for now

With my love

Jesus

Part 6: First Response Letter to Fred

49. Introduction

The following letter was written in response to questions raised by a man who had known and met John Kreppold (who is the Apostle John). I received the letter shortly after John was murdered on 3rd January 2007. John's murder raised many questions for those who had known of my claims about 14 who had returned to Earth, and came as a personal shock to many. Many then believed that everything I had taught them must be in error, since they could not see why such a thing could happen to one of the 14 persons who had once lived in the Celestial Kingdom of the spirit world as angels. My response addresses many of the erroneous concepts that people have regarding the soul, its condition, and the Laws of God.

50. The Letter

Hello there Fred (and others),

I firstly would like to thank you for your email, mostly because I know that you have been feeling these emotions and harboring these thoughts for around a year or so, and I am glad that at last you have been able to state them to me. Like your wife, I am a little surprised that you do so in the public manner in which you have, since you know me well enough to know that I would feel like I must respond to you in a public manner as well, even though I would prefer to discuss the following issues with you privately. I know that others also feel many of the same feelings as yourself, and so I am sure they will also benefit from my response.

As for my own feelings about Apostle John passing, I am not sad at all, since I am in relatively constant contact with him, and can see the outworking of a greater purpose, and I personally had released almost all of my own emotions of grief over the previous months before his murder. There are very few people in the universe closer to me than Apostle John, and I love my brother very much, and I know how happy he is currently working through his emotions and growing spiritually, as well as now being able to see a much bigger picture than he could conceive when he was here. In addition, he is the first person who has been reincarnated to ever pass back into the spirit world, and there are many things that our Celestial brothers and sisters and Apostle John himself are learning about what is currently happening to him that have never occurred before. This is his path, and it will demonstrate many things to spirits that they had never before conceived, and the help he can now give to spirits in dark places will be immeasurable.

As for the issues you discussed, I would firstly like to comment about some personal matters that your email raises, and once I have done that, I will address the questions you raised (but perhaps in another email if this one is too long). As you, I and others are well aware, I have answered many of these questions on other occasions of discussion with you, and so I feel I want to address some of the underlying emotions that you have within you that prompt these questions, and the manner in which you have raised them again.

50.1. Your Emotions

When you were little, I would observe you at times, and during that observation, I watched as many parts of your current nature were formed, and how the environment you grew up with in your family and culture, and the violence that was occurring in Vietnam molded many of your current beliefs and emotions. In particular, I observed how the sadness and fear that is within you now became a part of your soul, and can even see the reasons why you currently go to great lengths to avoid feeling and releasing those emotions.

Although you are not aware of it, and you do not wish to believe it, I am now in the condition where I can see how these emotions affect your thoughts, words and actions. It is very important that I point this out to you now, even though I risk your becoming even more angry and upset with me than you currently are, because these emotions that you are denying are placing you in a soul condition where the Law of Attraction that our Father created for the harmony of His Universe will attract to you events which will have the effect of attempting to assist you to release those emotions, and I am hopeful that you respond to these events by working through the underlying emotional issues.

I had a similar conversation with Apostle John around 5 weeks before he was murdered regarding his soul condition that I now want to have with you. Apostle John chose to ignore many of my comments at the time, because, in his then present emotional state; he felt that I did not understand, and that I perhaps did not have good motives for raising these issues. Myself and Apostle John spent much time together talking over the reasons why he felt so bad about himself, and how these emotions within him were affecting the choices he was making. I have talked to him on many occasions since his passing, and he now of course understands and remembers the depth of love I have for him, as I hope that you will at some time in the future see that as well. He also has already dealt with a large majority of these emotions that he knows now he was avoiding.

Fred, you and I have on previous occasions had many discussions about the questions you have asked in this email, and I have answered those questions in harmony with the truth. That you cannot believe the answers is totally due to your own doubts, fears, and anger about other issues rather than your true desire to get a satisfactory answer to those questions.

You are afraid to work through much of this emotional baggage from your childhood in the manner that your wife is currently working through hers, the manner that I have attempted to teach you. For this reason you must seek someone to blame for your fear, and since you cannot blame your wife without repelling her even further, you wish to blame me.

In reality, you have been extremely angry with me for around one year now, and, although you currently claim you are no longer angry with me, your wife and I know that you are still angry with me, and your statements that you are not are not statements of truth. Your anger with me began when you asked me to be truthful with you about what I thought was your emotional and spiritual condition, and since my response then, you have progressively sought to emotionally reject my comments.

You have deep emotions causing you to want to not believe I am Jesus. These emotions primarily revolve around your own personal desire to believe that your spiritual and emotional condition is much better than it is, and, rather than look at yourself truthfully, you would rather get angry with the messenger, who was, at the time, only responding to your own questions, which you at the time claimed were sincere.

Your worries about your relationship with your wife are also based around deep emotions within you, and also have nothing to do with anything I have said or done. Your wife is working through her emotional state rapidly, and as she does this, she is confronting you with further truth that you do not wish to accept. Rather than accept this, you prefer to believe that I am in some way influencing Helen, when in reality, as Helen knows and has told you repeatedly, I keep on reminding her to go to her Heavenly Father, and that if she is not experiencing God's Love entering her, then she needs to address the issues of disharmony within herself. In fact, I have given you the same advice on scores of occasions. I cannot manufacture Helen's emotions, and I cannot cause your emotions either, since your emotions come from within you, just as Helen's come from within her, and my own from within me. We each need to take responsibility for them.

If you look more closely at your motivation for discussing your questions in a public forum, you will see that it did not have an underlying motive of love, but rather one of fear and a desire to influence others into having the same beliefs as yourself in an effort to prove to your wife that she should not have anything to do with me. If you had an emotional trust of your heavenly Father, and His Laws as you have learned them in the Padgett messages as you claim, you would be less concerned about what others believe or do not believe, and rather more concerned about your own state of harmony with those laws. You would desire to see WHY you are so angry, and what other emotions that anger is covering, rather than concentrating on projecting your anger towards myself, your wife, and also some others who do not agree with your beliefs.

You have had these doubts and the underlying anger for a long period, and yet you choose to raise these issues only when Apostle John passes. You need to look at your underlying motive for choosing this course of action in the manner you have, since it is not as pure as you attempt to portray, and it also is quite unkind to people who may not have the emotional faith about the spirit world that I have who are attempting to deal with their emotional grief about Apostle John passing.

You have also chosen in your comments to ignore the truth about your own emotions, and in addition about my own consistently kind, honest, open and loving treatment of yourself. You say that you made yourself dependent on me. As you, you wife, and others who have spent time with me know, this has never been my desire, nor could have resulted from any intention I have displayed. I constantly have attempted to help you look more carefully at your own emotional condition, and how it is preventing your own progress towards your heavenly Father, and I have constantly asked you, "What do you feel?" when you have asked me questions. Often you have asked me what to do, and I have refused to answer, since I said it was your responsibility to address your own emotions. Only when referring to the work ahead have I ever asked for your own assistance to visit locations, but even then, you did so from your own desire.

If you look more honestly at my comments to you about emotional matters, as your own wife and daughter will testify to, you will see that you have followed very little of my advice to you (which was given to you only when you asked for it) about how to progress emotionally and spiritually, because you have believed that the method you are currently using works much better, is more effective, and is easier than the suggestions I have made. Of course, this is your right, and I am not criticizing that. Rather, I am addressing your claims that you were dependent on myself, which are very untruthful and incorrect.

If you look more honestly at my comments to you about material matters, as your own wife and daughter again will testify to, you will see that in almost all cases I have said to you to stop worrying about these material matters, and concentrate on your own emotional and spiritual development first. As you well know, this is the same advice that your own spirit guides are giving you as well. So anything you think you have done as a result of my "predictions" (which I made saying very clearly that these are only feelings I have, and that I felt they would happen but I was unsure of the timing) has in reality been decided by yourself due to the fears you have about not being financially stable.

I have stated both to yourself and to others that my first desire is to get myself into the condition where I wish to be. If you could honestly see and present my life as it currently is, you would know that my first desire is to be at-one with my Father, and everything else is secondary to that desire. Those that have spent time with me know this. Your desire to state to others that I am not doing this is just a result of your own anger towards me, and, although it is your own opinion, it is far from the truth.

In the first century, very few people accepted me initially for the same reasons, Fred, that you cannot accept me now. In time, these persons who currently reject me, as you yourself are doing, will come to understand that their rejection was not because of my actions or words, but because of their own emotional and spiritual condition and errors of beliefs. Many times you have preferred to ignore the things I have said to you rather than otherwise, but now you want to make me responsible for the choices you made. I am not responsible for them aside from the teachings I have given where I have been definite in my own statements, such as those referring to emotional clearing, the 14 returning and so forth. I take complete responsibility for those, and any subsequent effects those comments have on others. If in the future I find I have been mistaken about any individual issue, I will do everything in my power to address that. Of course I cannot be responsible for when others have decided to work differently to my own advice, which you personally have done on the majority of occasions.

You cannot accept the truth about yourself, and so you reject the messenger of truth, even when that messenger has only ever displayed kindness, hospitality, love, consideration openness and honesty with you, and has never been angry or upset with you. In return, you have been a sometimes angry, sometimes kind, sometimes loving, sometimes resentful, sometimes accepting, sometimes bitter, sometimes honest, sometimes untruthful. But a person who reflects Divine Love, Fred, is consistent in that reflection, and it is only the deeper emotional injuries that cause the inconsistency.

I do not match your concept of what the Messiah is, and so you reject me. But I am not here to prove myself to you or any other person. I am here to demonstrate that the Love of our Father is real, and to correct as far as I am able the huge numbers of misconceptions man has about Divine Love and Truth. This will occur in my Father's timeframe, and I will go public with these teachings when my Father shows me I am ready, not in my nor your timeframe, Fred, and your expectations that everything runs to your own timetable just demonstrates that you need to trust that everything will be alright. Just because something has not happened yet, it does not mean that it will not happen.

Currently you are trying to influence others to come to the same conclusions you have come to. You are even willing, especially with your wife, to harm their own expression of free will in order to accomplish your goals. It is my understanding she has discussed this with you. You have previously admitted this to me, and I know you have felt bad about that yourself. I am very happy to answer all of your questions, but as you yourself know, I have answered most of them before, but you have not wished to accept the answers given. The only reason why I will answer them again for you is that others may desire to know the answers, because, in reality, I know you do not have a pure desire to understand, but rather you have a desire to attempt to discredit.

You have emotional reasons why the answers are unacceptable. You want your own growth in Divine Love to be easier than what you think I am portraying it to be to you. You do not wish to go through any emotional turmoil to release the emotional errors that have accumulated over your own life, and if I am Jesus, in your mind that means my comments to you are all correct, and you do not want them ALL to be correct, you only wanted the ones that did not relate to your emotional condition. You forget that ALL spirits who have talked about their progression in the Padgett messages have reported that they underwent a period of pain and suffering, and yet you ignore this fact because you do not wish to accept a period of your own pain and suffering. I do understand why Fred, because I know the pain I have had to experience and release has been very different to the pleasurable growth towards my Father that I experienced in the 1st century.

So you have some very strong reasons for rejecting emotionally anything I say to you, as you have done for the majority of the time I have known you. This is why you have often taken the "devil's advocate" position in our discussions as you have sometimes said to me. During this time I have patiently dealt with all of your enquiries. And while I understand these reasons you have for attempting to reject what I say, I still stay the same thing to you that I have said on many other occasions, and that is that until you are willing to experience this process, your soul cannot remain open to the connection with the "Spirit of Truth" the Holy Spirit, and you will not be able to consistently receive Divine Love, and you will not be able to understand intellectually or accept my answers emotionally.

You are not the only person in this condition, since there are also many others who feel the same feelings as yourself about me, and who wish to attempt to discredit me in an effort to gain approval for their own emotional condition. These ones are willing to use deception and innuendo, withhold the truth, and even lie directly knowing that the person listening to them will probably not seek the truth. But I do believe that each one will eventually see how they have not acted in harmony with love, and begin to progress as a result of the consequences their soul condition attracts. I have the same forgiving nature as my Father because His Love is in me, and so I fully expect that in the future we will work closely together, even though I know you currently cannot see how that will be possible.

As far as I am aware from you own comments to me, the only time you really seemed to understand this process of emotional clearing was when you wife was away in Australia, and you allowed yourself to connect to some of your deeper and more painful emotions, and to release them. But, I can also see that you believe that to be an aberration, something that happened under unusual circumstances, rather than choosing to accept that process as the Way forward in your daily life.

Many of your questions that you have listed demonstrate some underlying emotional misunderstandings about God's Love, Sin and Error, what constitutes a Perfect Soul, and so forth. Many of the questions you have asked can be answered from a closer and more thorough examination of the Padgett Messages. However I will address each question when I have responded to other less technical emails from other people regarding Apostle John and the recent events, since this email has become quite long.

I know that the answers to these questions may not seem satisfactory to you or to others, but that does not change the truth of the answers. It is much more difficult coming into the present day Earth environment from the soul world, enduring the separation from our Father and soulmates that we experienced emotionally, than you or anyone else, including Celestial spirits, could ever imagine without experiencing it. Only a person who is one of the 14 will be able to understand completely what they have gone through, and why they have the experiences they have, and even those angels in the Celestial Kingdom and in the Soul-Union state are watching the process the 14 are experiencing with extreme interest and wonder.

I am very glad that you are now voicing your concerns that you have been holding onto for some time. I feel some pity for you Fred, since I know that the majority of these issues you yourself would be able to address if you had followed some of my previous advice and worked through the emotions that prevent the Divine Love from flowing to you. But I am very glad you are now living in more harmony with how you feel within you rather than covering over these feelings.

But my advice to you is to work through these emotions without attempting to influence others, because, if it turns out that you are wrong, and that I am Jesus, and that 14 have returned, you are going to regret the very public manner in which you are working through these emotions, and also come to regret your attempts to influence others into the same manner of thinking. I personally have not attempted to make anyone believe I am Jesus. In fact I have often said to people, as I have said to you in our earliest emails, that you need to come to your own conclusions. I have just answered the questions asked of me, and presented the truth as I know it to be. That is what I have always done, and that is what I will always do.

I love you very much, and I am quite confident that you will eventually release these feelings that are affecting the love you display to others and yourself, and the deeper underlying causes. Of course, the speed of your release of these emotions completely depends on your will, but you will do it eventually, because the perfection of our Father's Laws means that in the end, your will to remain disconnected from your own emotion will exhaust you.

I will answer the list of questions you raised in another email, after I have responded to others personal emails and emails regarding Apostle John's welfare.

Bye for now

Your brother

Jesus

51. Part 7: Second Response Letter to Fred

51.1. Introduction

My dear brother Fred, and others

As I promised, you had a series of questions that you wanted answered, and this email is an attempt on my behalf to answer them. This email is by necessity quite long. It should be born in mind though that it is very difficult to use words to answer questions based upon emotions, especially when the reader of those words has many emotions of their own through which they will filter the information.

This is the same problem that each Celestial spirit experiences trying to use a medium on Earth through which they can convey spiritual truths. All spiritual truths beyond the 6th sphere cannot be intellectually learned, but, rather, they must be emotionally learned. In addition, this emotional learning begins usually very much earlier than the 6th sphere, often in the 1st, or even on Earth, and so many 6th sphere spirits who have missed the Divine Path and continue along the path to the perfect natural man have also not developed the internal mechanisms by which the Divine Truth can only be learned.

51.2. Personal Comments

Inside of yourself Fred, you have a belief that IF I am Jesus, I could not ever be wrong. This is a belief that you have gained from your Christian background and upbringing, and it clings to your soul, and so predisposes you to expect a perfect man right now. However, I have stated to you and to everyone else on many occasions that my purposes for coming to Earth on this occasion are many and varied, and I would like to firstly mention a few of these purposes.

Currently, on Earth, there is a general conception that it is impossible for a person in a condition of sin to enter into at-onement with the Father while they remain on Earth. This is a very damaging belief, and to some extent, it even affected my friend the Apostle John's choices that he made in the last few days of his own life. This belief has many effects, including but not limited to:

1. The creation of emotions within those who are working on the Divine Love Path to believe that they will never be at-one with the Father while on Earth. This means that many on that path do not use their complete effort to progress, and they feel that since the goal of progression (bliss with our Father) is not attainable on Earth, what is the point of exercising their complete desire for something that is not attainable until they pass? This causes them to feel like giving up quite often, and also to put off dealing with emotions until later, which is very disharmonious with their own happiness.

2. This belief is also quite blasphemous to our Father, since it suggests that the Earth and the Laws that surround it (which are actually universal) have a degree of imperfection surrounding them, and that our Father created a law (the Law of Compensation) that cannot be overcome by a higher law (the Law of Divine Love) while a person remains on Earth. This of course is incorrect.

3. There is also a strong tendency among those who have learned about the Divine Love to believe that since I (Jesus) was made into the perfect natural man by Divine Love immediately after my birth in the 1st century, and then took 30 years or so to get into a condition of at-onement with my Father, that it will be impossible for any person in a condition of sin to enter into the same condition while they remain on Earth without Divine Intervention in a similar manner.

One of the many reasons for my return and my own current path towards my Father is to demonstrate to all those living on Earth that at-onement with the Father is completely possible and able to be done from a condition of sin and error while a person remains on Earth, and that this can be done without the person having a single "gift of the spirit" such as mediumship, personal healing, and so forth, without any perceived favoritism from God, and without any personal assistance from spirits. This is a very important part of my current mission, because it will overcome many of the false and negative beliefs of people on Earth, including those who are personally seeking the Divine Love Path.

Many today believe that unless they are mediumistic, or unless they have some special gift, or unless they have lots of help from spirit guides, and unless they can connect with their spirit guides, they cannot progress. Of course, these things do sometimes make progress easier (or harder, depending on the condition of the person), but in reality, our personal progress TOTALLY depends upon our relationship with God only. Unfortunately, many mediumistic people, for example, believe that since they have communication with spirits, and others do not, that this means they are in better spiritual condition that the others. This of course is fallacy, and just results in the person fooling themselves about their own condition. So it is very important to dispel this belief.

There were many ways in which the 14 could have chosen to return to Earth. We have the power within our soul to manifest a material body at will (which will be demonstrated when we are in condition) and we could have chosen to materialize and de-materialize our bodies as necessary. However this would have had many negative effects on the Earth, because already many persons believe that I (Jesus) am God, and this would not demonstrate that I am just a man, because in the minds of many, they would not be able to relate to me being a man unless I had grown up as a man, with an earthly mother and father.

In addition, if 7 soulmate pairs returned by materialization, the Earth would have looked upon us as supernatural beings because of the instant powers we could display, and although it would prove the existence of a Divine Creator, people would still retain their many false beliefs about the Creator, and also would not have come to understand that our own condition is able to be developed by them while they remain on Earth. They would not see us as they see themselves, and it is very important to me, and to the others of the 14, that all people we teach see us as we really are, and as they themselves are, just one half of a soul created by our Father, in our case a soul that has the Divine Love within it, but a human soul nevertheless.

One other alternative was that God would remove sin and error from our souls that we had naturally gained through the process of living in our earthly mothers' wombs for nine months or so. This could occur at birth as it did in the 1st century for me. However, this would not achieve the goals I have mentioned above, and it would also in the minds of those watching demonstrate that man needs "Divine intervention" to get into a condition of at-onement on Earth, and this is the opposite statement that I personally wanted to demonstrate. In addition, such action would not be possible, because it did not agree with our Father's Will, since our Father does things economically, and I still believe now that what happened to me in the 1st century at the time of birth (the cleansing of my soul from all inherited sin by the operation of Divine Love) was the only time such a thing would be necessary in the history of the human race.

If you allow yourself to meditate upon the other alternatives that would allow a soul in the condition of a soul-union in heaven as I have described it to return to Earth that are in harmony with the Laws of your Father, then you will see that the most effective method for reversing the many erroneous teachings on Earth about myself, my life, my condition, my so-called God/Man state and so forth, and more importantly, the erroneous teachings that remain about God, His relationship to man, the human soul, and the many Laws of our Father are best overcome using the method that we chose, and it was very important that many more than just one of us returned for the same reasons.

As you have discussed with me many times, you, Fred, believe that Jesus could not ever get into a state of sin after being in a condition of at-onement with the Father. However, if you read the Padgett messages carefully, in one of my own messages to James Padgett, I mentioned the possibility of a person having the Divine Love of the Father, and yet acting as though he has not because of other emotions disharmonious with love within him created by his environment that he chooses to retain. Divine Love can never be removed from a soul once that soul has It, but while on Earth in particular the soul can certainly act in disharmony with the love that is within itself. I will explain in the answers I give to your questions how this actually occurs.

In addition, the Padgett messages also talk about the role of the Divine Love in our lives. In another message I stated that the Holy Spirit or the Divine Love both do not have the role of causing a soul to get into a condition of receptivity. A soul must have an awakening first, and the awakening of the soul is not caused by the inflowing of Divine Love, nor by the Holy Spirit, but rather by other influences. Divine Love within a soul does not automatically cause that soul to seek even more Divine Truth, since the desire to seek Divine Truth is controlled by the free will of the individual. It is true that the Divine Love can certainly influence the soul to exercise it's free will to seek more Divine Truth, but seeking more truth is definitely very much under the control of the individual, and God does not influence this by imposing more truth on the individual without the person's free will desiring that truth.

There are many spirits who arrive in the spirit world who have received some of the Divine Love of the Father, but who still believe and are connected emotionally to the beliefs of the vicarious atonement, my dying for the sins of others, and other beliefs that, as those same spirits mention, retard their progress through the spirit world. There are also many people on Earth that although they have received some of the Divine Love, they continue to act in disharmony with that love in their treatment of others.

It is for this reason I said in one message:

" _And thus is demonstrated the great, real paradox of the existence in the same mortal at the same time, of an intellectual belief and a soul knowledge as far apart as the antipodes. And also is demonstrated the truth, a great truth, that the mind of man and the soul of man are not one and the same, but are as distinct as the creature of a special creation, the mind, and the creation of that which is the only part of man made in the image of his Maker, the soul, must necessarily be."_

This especially applies to the treatment of the issues of sexual morality by so-called Christians, fundamentalist or orthodox. Many so-called Christians have received a portion of the Divine Love, because they are passionate about their relationship with God, and they long for His Love from the heart, but then, those same persons often react in a manner that rejects persons in a condition where they practice sexual promiscuity or what is deemed by those churches to be against God's Laws (such as homosexuality). Unfortunately their rejection and lack of acceptance of other people for any sin (whether it is truly a sin from God's perspective, or whether it is man's perspective only) is in disharmony with the Laws of Divine Love and so therefore is an even greater sin, and so there are penalties that attach themselves to their own souls because of their own disharmony with the Divine Love within them. So it has been demonstrated by the Padgett messages, and also other messages such as the Judas Messages received by Hans Radax, that a person can have Divine Love within their own soul, and yet, due to other emotions that they do not remove from themselves, continue to act in disharmony with that Love, and this is possible not only on the Earth, but the possibility continues until a person has been completely refined by progression through the 7 spheres of the spirit world.

So, with the background I have just created, I would now like to answer the questions you have asked.

51.3. Question 1

Your question was:

" _If John Kreppold is one of the 14 as claimed whose soul has been fully individualized and fully developed with God's Divine Truth and Love, how is it that he failed to overcome sins and errors on this Earth? If a fully developed and perfect soul is unable to overcome sins and errors, how can then the undeveloped souls who are full of sins and errors to overcome them? Is God's plan for man's salvation fallible in some way? That a perfect soul in love that is already ONE with God can fall from grace?"_

Due to the nature of reincarnation as I have explained it in the past, which is far different to the type of reincarnation taught in all human philosophies, and due to the condition of the world into which the 14 reincarnated along with other factors such as the laws governing the growth of the spiritual and physical bodies, all of the 14 have had to live within their mind primarily for the majority of their time on Earth. Obviously living within the mind causes a larger disconnection with the soul.

While Apostle John's soul is fully developed in Divine Love to allow him to exist in the Soul Kingdom of our Father, when Apostle John first reincarnated, he incarnated into a receptacle (the spirit and material bodies) that already had a degree of inherited sin. Also, due to the capacity of those two receptacles, Apostle John's soul could not transfer the information, love and truth it contained into the mind of the spirit body, nor the brain of the material, because both the spirit body, and the material body are in a condition of infancy, and unable to assimilate the information the soul had. In fact, if Apostle John's soul attempted such transference, the immediate death of the spirit and material bodies would have occurred, which would have instantly negated the entire process of reincarnation.

Instead, what had to occur is that the feelings, emotions, memories, and other information Apostle John's soul possessed would need to be progressively transferred into the mind of the spirit body, and this then, of course, would influence the brain of the material body, and the ability of the transference of information would depend totally upon the condition of the spirit and material bodies and their ability to cope with this information and emotion. Obviously, a newborn infant is only capable of a certain number of clear emotions, and, as it matures, it then gains more emotional capacity as long as its environment does not stifle this growth in emotional capacity.

All souls that incarnate are in a pristine condition before incarnation, whether that be a soul that has attained it's individualization, or one that has yet to experience the process of individualization. No soul comes into it's new home (the spirit and material bodies) from a condition of error. Whether the soul is purified in natural love (as is every newly incarnated soul), or purified in Divine Love (as the 14 have been), error, however, is imposed upon the soul from the moment of incarnation by its environment.

The 14 had the ability to purify their spiritual and material bodies at the time of incarnation, but such an event would cause a number of serious problems. Firstly, the mothers of the 14 would also need to be purified in order for the process to have any benefit, and one of the 14 doing this would be in disharmony with the Law of Free Will, in that we would have been making decisions that by law, only our mothers could make for themselves. Since it is impossible for a person at-one with the Father to do this, the process would have been impossible. Secondly, our mothers would not have been able to cope emotionally with the process, and this would have most probably resulted in much harm, or even the death of our mothers, and the subsequent passing of the child soon thereafter.

Also, even if it were possible to purify the mother, and the spirit and material bodies of our own soul, it would still be impossible to transfer all of the information from our soul to the spirit and material bodies without the spirit and material bodies getting into the condition where they could receive such information. In my case, I was in a condition of at-onement with my Father when I passed from the Earth in the first century, and yet it took almost an additional 2000 years for me to reach the place where souls that have a soul-union reside. Of course, since I with my soulmate was the first to reach that condition, other souls would be able to approach the same condition in a much shorter time.

So, there is 2000 years of information, most of it very powerful emotionally, that needed to return and slowly be assimilated by new spirit and material bodies. This process was obviously going to be time consuming, and very much dependent on my own intellectual and emotional will. If I control my will with my mind, then the mind would be in the condition where it will deny much of this emotional information, and then, because of disharmony between the mind and the soul, a condition of sin (which is disharmony) now exists.

If a mind decides to reject the information coming from the soul because it believes it is too emotionally confronting to handle, then while the mind continues to reject the emotion, it is impossible for the individual to progress spiritually or emotionally. This applies to any person, whether they are one of the 14 or not.

Apostle John was in a condition at the time he passed where he was working through these issues. He was struggling with the emotional acceptance of his own soul's emotions, and, because of the powerful emotions involved, he often cycled between acceptance of his own identity, and a desire to reject his own identity because of the fear associated with total acceptance. Quite a number of the 14 are in this current state, and I myself have had to work through these emotions, so I understand them well.

Apostle John was in the process of the removal of sin and error that had attached itself to his soul during his life when he passed. These passions, desires and emotions were the result of Apostle John's environment; just as your own sin and error is the product of your own environment. The Laws of Attraction are constantly in operation. They operate on the true condition of one's emotions. In Apostle John's case, he had at the time some emotions that were in harmony with love, and others that were in direct disharmony with love and truth implanted by his environment. Since he was at that time unwilling to release the emotions of disharmony, because his mind could not accept what his soul already knew, he created this state of disharmony, and he made decisions based on his mental concepts (which he could accept), rather than based upon his emotions and feelings (which he wanted to deny still).

The process of an individualized soul reincarnating and then removing sin and error is actually more difficult than the process of an un-individualized soul doing the same. An individualized soul experiences emotions at the time of incarnation, whereas the un-individualized soul is not conscious of the process of incarnation, and so it does not experience the emotions of incarnation. These emotions (sin and error) cannot be removed from the soul coming from the soul world at the time of incarnation because of the Laws of Free Will concerning the mother and issues of maturity. They could only be removed at the time of birth, but that process is completely dependent on the Will of our heavenly Father, and our Father only does things when they are completely necessary and in accordance with His desires which are ALWAYS in the long term good.

You have asked:

" _If a fully developed and perfect soul is unable to overcome sins and errors, how can then the undeveloped souls who are full of sins and errors to overcome them?"_

Well the answer is that the process of removal of sin and error from a soul is the same whether the soul has reincarnated or incarnated for the first time. Our Father's Laws do not change and our Father is not partial. His Laws operate in the same manner for each person.

You seem to think that once a soul has reached the soul world it is in a state of complete perfection (and this of course depends on your definition of perfection). But obviously there is only one Absolutely Perfect Soul in the universe, and that is the Soul of our Creator. All other souls continue to progress towards this ideal for all eternity, if they receive the Divine Love of the Father. Also, truth is something that progressively develops, and we are all working towards the Absolute Divine Truth, and will be continuing to do this for eternity as well.

You have asked:

" _Is God's plan for man's salvation fallible in some way?"_

Of course not, Fred, as you know, the Divine Plan has ALREADY SUCCEEDED. If only one soul obtained salvation, it still would have succeeded, but as you know, millions of souls have become at-one with their Father, and I am expecting that many billions more will as a result of the future plans of our Father. Just because one person (Apostle John) fails, in your eyes only, to obtain perfection on Earth, it does not mean he has failed in the eyes of God. Apostle John's process of working towards at-onement with God while on Earth was many times more difficult than that of the average person, as I will explain later. From God's point of view, Apostle John has not failed. Your desire to see Apostle John's passing as a failure is based upon your own emotional tendency towards judgment of others rather than feelings of love and understanding towards Apostle John.

You also asked:

(Is it true) "That a perfect soul in love that is already ONE with God can fall from grace?"

Again, it is impossible for any soul, whether it has received the Divine Love or not, to "fall from grace", as you put it, while God holds out the opportunity for all souls to obtain the Divine Love. Apostle John did not fall from grace, since Apostle John already has a large amount of the Divine Love of the Father in his soul. As the Padgett messages state clearly, it is totally impossible for a soul to lose Divine Love once it has obtained it. However, it is possible for a soul to obtain Divine Love, and then act like it has not received it. Since you met Apostle John, you know that he was already acting in harmony with Divine Love in some matters, but not in all, and as I have explained above, that was because of his allowance of the domination of his mind, and his inability to accept all of the emotions he was going through at the time.

51.4. A Personal Note

Fred, when you currently experience an emotion that brings you unhappiness, or that you believe is in disharmony with Divine Love, you believe that you can avoid experiencing that emotion by asking God for the Divine Love to come into your soul, and that the Divine Love will then come into your soul and release the emotion without your experiencing much or any pain. Most within the Divine Love movement believe the same.

Because you retain this belief, you feel temporarily better, telling yourself intellectually that the Divine Love has performed it's operation, and now, because you tell yourself you are better, you feel that the Divine Love has performed the task you have imagined, and you think you feel better. However, the attractions occurring in your life in many cases remain, and so the question must be asked; If the emotions have been released, why are the attractions continuing?

You have the intellectual conception of the operation Divine Love in reverse order to Its actual operation. The Divine Love can only begin to enter the soul in further abundance when the Holy Spirit firstly has a connection being maintained with the soul. The Holy Spirit, being the Spirit of Truth, can only maintain this connection with the soul if the soul itself has brought itself into harmony with truth. Remember, that the soul is the passions, emotions, feelings and desires of the individual, and so, at any instant that the passions, desires, emotions and feelings of the soul are in harmony with Divine Truth, that is the instant that the Holy Spirit connects, and through it, the soul receives more Divine Love.

As you can see from this explanation, the Divine Love can enter the soul DURING the process of emotional release or AFTER the process of emotional release of the emotion that is causing the disharmony. It cannot EVER enter the soul BEFORE the process of emotional release begins, because while the free will is being exercised to deny the emotion, the emotion will remain, and the error therefore remains because of the person's desire for it to remain. Only you yourself can control the release of that emotional disharmony (which I have been calling sin and error), and you can only do it using your free will to experience it. Your wife and I have explained this to you many times. You have experienced the process on only one occasion that you have made me aware of, and that was when your wife was in Australia and you went through some very powerful emotions.

I have often discussed with your that your conceptions of receiving the Divine Love are based around some erroneous beliefs and desires, and I believe that if you would be willing to submit to the method that I have described to you on many occasions, which is also the method your wife is using to work through her realizations and emotions, you would be able to progress and experience it, and then come to see how it works. But I also respect your desire to hold onto your own methods and beliefs if that is what you wish.

51.5. Question 2

You have said:

" _If a fully developed soul who is already perfect in God's Love and Truth who could not overcome sins and errors, is it not to say that God's Love and Truth cannot conquer or are not greater than sins and errors here on Earth? How is it then that God's Will shall be done on Earth as in Heaven if a perfect soul cannot overcome sin and the tendency to sinning? If I am to believe that John Kreppold is a re-incarnated soul from God's Kingdom of Heaven, then is that not the same as stating that God's Love is not perfect? In my heart, I feel and know that God is perfect and that His Love is perfect and all powerful, then the only possible conclusion for me is that John Kreppold cannot be a reincarnated soul!"_

Well, I do not feel there is much point in answering these questions deeply, because I believe my previous answer should suffice. Here you are expressing your disbelief, and this disbelief is a result of your not being able to understand the laws involved that I have previously discussed in this email. I cannot help you understand those laws, since only your soul possessing the Divine Love of the Father will help you understand those laws.

Of course, while you retain your beliefs of how to obtain the Divine Love, and you cannot accept what I am presenting to you as the Way in which to obtain it, then it will be difficult for you to accept my other explanations.

I agree with you totally that all of God's Laws are perfect. Divine Love and Truth conquer sin and disharmony completely. I am sure none of your readers would disagree with that. But some of your comments demonstrate that you are yet to understand some truths about sin.

The soul does not have a tendency to sin in the manner you seem to think. Also, your understanding of sin is still very religious (Catholic) in its ideas. All souls, those who have completed the individualization process or those just beginning it (before incarnation), do not have any tendency to sin. God does not create souls, nor are there any souls in the Celestial Kingdom, that have a tendency towards sin. Sin is created by the perpetual environment into which all souls are currently incarnating, and this environment is, as you know, only of man's own creation, and this environment creates emotions within the soul that trigger the tendency to sin. So ALL SIN is of man's creation, and so therefore, all sin can be overcome.

Also, God's Love is perfect, as you know. But this does not mean that someone without an emotional connection to their own soul full of Divine Love (such as a newly conceived child) cannot have errors imposed upon them by their environment. If that soul cannot use its conscious will to reject error (and a baby or unborn child is in this condition of not being able to reject error because of being unable to consciously reject the negative emotions imposed upon it by the environment in which it lives), then error will certainly be imposed upon the soul, and it cannot be said to be the fault of the child, but rather it is the fault of its collective environment that this occurs. This is only possible on the Earth, since by the time a spirit reaches the Celestial Kingdom, that spirit is mature in its emotional and spiritual powers, and retains a complete connection with its soul, and this is one of the reasons why it is not possible for a spirit in heaven at-one with the Father to sin. But the environment for a soul newly incarnated is completely different to the Celestial Kingdom, and the condition of a newly incarnated soul's spirit body is completely different to the condition of a Celestial spirit's body.

God does not blame us for any error we have within. He does not punish us either for this error. All of His Laws operate in a manner that will naturally correct these errors, assuming that we use our own free will to decide to live our lives in harmony with those laws. But God Loves us always, and did before He gave the opportunity of mankind again receiving the Divine Love in the 1st century, and He will continue to do so even after the opportunity of receiving Divine Love has been withdrawn.

At the moment Fred, you have very many emotions created by your relationship with your earthly father that are being imposed upon your questions to me. You believe that since Apostle John passed in the condition he did, he could not have ever been a Celestial spirit, and you believe this because it is preferable to your accepting other beliefs that are more in harmony with Divine Law, because you have some emotions towards your father that close down certain aspects of your own soul, and this makes it difficult to emotionally grasp what I am saying to you.

The reasoning that because God's Love is perfect, Apostle John could not have ever been a Celestial spirit before his incarnation assumes that Apostle John was acting in harmony with the Divine Love within his soul, and as I have told you on many occasions, this is not the case. You yourself have received some of the Divine Love, but you are also acting in disharmony with it on many occasions as well, some of which you are aware, and some of which you have been unaware. I have discussed this with you at times. Do your own actions prove that God's Love is imperfect? If your actions in disharmony do not prove that God's Love is imperfect, then why would Apostle John's actions prove that God's Love is imperfect? Can you not see that your reasoning is flawed, and so therefore must be based around emotions you feel within rather than the truth?

51.6. Question 3

You have asked:

" _You have said that those who have returned must work on two sets of emotions - one from the first century and the second time around. My understanding about God's Laws and Truths is that one must work out all their emotional injuries whether it was by commission or by omission, before they could enter the Kingdom of God and into the Soul Kingdom as you have taught. And according to one of Judas' messages to Hans Radax, Judas explained that once the emotion had been released, it exists only as a memory absent of its energy or emotional pain or hurt or anger or sadness, etc. How is it then that reincarnation would compel one to re-work those same emotions? How does one to release something that had already been released?"_

Firstly, I have actually said that there are many sets of emotions for a reincarnated soul to work through, seven different sets of emotions in all, not just two as you mention. Secondly I have already explained to you personally how this process occurs, but I will do so again for the benefit of those who have had questions raised in their own minds from your email.

The seven sets of emotions that a reincarnated soul needs to process are these:

1) The emotions from the reincarnation process, such as loss of the soulmate relationship, loss of safety, loss of the consciousness of the Father relationship and so on.

2) The emotions from the current environment, and the current life of the half of the soul.

3) The emotions imposed upon the soul by the soul's memories of its previous life on Earth (which have no emotion attached), which memories create new emotions within the newly conceived child at the time of reincarnation, and also create emotional responses during the process of reconnection between the mind of the spirit body and the memories flowing from the soul.

4) The emotions imposed upon the soul by the soul's memories of its life in the Celestial and soul worlds (which have no emotion attached), which memories create new emotions within the newly conceived child at the time of reincarnation, and also create emotional responses during the process of reconnection between the mind of the spirit body and the memories flowing from the soul.

5) The emotions imposed upon the soul by the soul's memories that it decided to take from its soulmate's previous life on Earth (which is a mutual decision between the soulmate pair and which have no emotion attached), which memories create new emotions within the newly conceived child at the time of reincarnation, and also create emotional responses during the process of reconnection between the mind of the spirit body and the memories flowing from the soul.

6) The emotions imposed upon the soul by the soul's memories that it decided to take from its soulmate's previous life in the Celestial and soul worlds (which is a mutual decision between the soulmate pair and which have no emotion attached), which memories create new emotions within the newly conceived child at the time of reincarnation, and also create emotional responses during the process of reconnection between the mind of the spirit body and the memories flowing from the soul,

7) The feelings and emotions of its soulmate as its soulmate is processing through his or her own emotions.

As you can see, Fred, all of these emotions are re-created at the time of reincarnation or afterward, but they feel to the reincarnated soul like they are re-experiencing many of these emotions. This is consistent with your own current beliefs, and also consistent with the information contained within the Judas messages.

As for myself, I have experienced the majority of those emotions. I can illustrate some of them to you. I had to process some of the emotions of being raped at the age of 14-15 by three men who were soldiers in the 1st century. Initially I was very confused about these emotions, since I did not believe this occurred to me. However, during the process of working through the emotions, I became conscious that I had chosen to retain these memories from events that actually happened to my soulmate (Mary Magdalene) rather than she experience them again. She had a very difficult 1st century life, while I had a relatively easy 1st century life, and my desire was to lessen the impact of these emotions upon her reincarnation process. This was one of a group of emotions I experienced that fall into the category of number 5, listed above.

Another group of emotions I have had to deal with were the re-living of the events surrounding my death in the first century. You were present when I was working through some of those memories. These emotions fall into category 3.

Another group of emotions I had to work through relate to my regaining awareness of the creation of the universes above the 6th sphere, which were created in response to my own soul condition. This is the reason why spirits channeling the Urantia book call me the Creator Son. Of course, their understanding of the events surrounding the creation of these universes, both the 7th sphere, and the many above are incorrect, because they cannot understand how God's Laws actually work in harmony with the soul in the creation of its surroundings. But this group of emotions fall into category 4.

I can feel the emotions my soulmate feels quite strongly at times (particularly when I have been in a good emotional condition myself), and this has sometimes in the past been confusing for me, and it meant experiencing them to a lesser extent along with her. This falls into category 7.

When I was reincarnated, my mother was 16, and unmarried. She did not want to have a child, and she was very fearful of the results of her pregnancy, because it was not clear to her what would happen. Hence she had many feelings of rejection towards her pregnancy, which I felt very strongly, and I have only just released these emotions. They fall into category 2.

My largest emotions have surrounded the loss of consciousness of my heavenly Father relationship, and the loss of the consciousness of my soulmate relationship. These emotions almost tore me apart, and I have spent over 10 years attempting to work through them and release them. I have only just got to the point now where I feel almost all of my soulmate loss feelings have been dealt with. I have dealt with most of the feelings associated with the loss of my Father relationship prior to those of my soulmate relationship. These emotions fall into category 1.

So Fred, as you can see, it is entirely possible for new sets of emotions to be imposed upon the reincarnated child, by the memories of different experiences that now have no emotional content creating new sets of emotions. I understand if you do not wish to believe what I am saying, but your belief does not change my own experience, or the experience of others of the 14. Nor does it negate the truth of my own experience, nor my own wide variety of memories from the last 2000 years of my own existence, which have come to me as a gradual process over the past 3 years in particular (since it is only over the past 3 years that I have mentally allowed the possibility of the true causes of these emotional experiences).

Of course, we also must work through the emotional payment of penalties because of the operation of the Law of Compensation due to the choices we have made because of this emotional baggage since our being on Earth again, just as any other person would need to do the same. We are not above the Law of God.

When I first presented the truth that the 14 had returned to Earth, I asked those who read my message to display patience with the 14, because I knew at that time the amount of work that needed to be done by each one in order to progress. Some have been patient, and continue to concentrate on their own spiritual progression, while others have been very critical and attacking, which only makes the process even more difficult. Of course, each of the 14 do not blame others for their own progression (or lack of progression), but it would be much better if those around them could accept the emotional process they have to go through.

51.7. Question 4

You ask:

" _According to the Padgett messages and if I remember correctly, another message from (supposedly) Jesus to David Lampron that Jesus of Nazareth of the first century was born free of sin and free from the tendency to sin, completely different from all other souls by the Power of God's Love via His Holy Spirit. How is the state of Jesus' (1st century) soul different from the 14 as claimed if the reincarnated souls have already fully individualized and fully developed Perfect with God's Love and Truth? If the conditions of the reincarnated souls are more developed with love than the soul condition of that of Jesus in first century when born, then how is it that the reincarnated souls could not escape the desire to sin or the tendency of sinning? Has God's Law been changed? But it has been taught that God's Law shall never change!"_

The teachings that I have presented with regard to reincarnation and emotions are completely consistent with the teachings you mention. My soul in the first century, at the time of birth (the cutting of the umbilical cord), underwent an experience where it was cleared of emotional injuries from my parents and environment. My soul at that moment only had a consciousness of its experience from the time of incarnation onward, and, because it was newly incarnated, it did not have any maturity, or knowledge. I grew as other men grew, and obtained experiences as other men obtained experiences, although I did not sin, because the emotional causes of sin that I would normally have had as a part of myself as a result of my parents and environment during gestation had been removed from me by my Father. Once I had obtained at-onement with my Father in my early 30's, and this process was completely due to my wanting to harmonize my desire with my Father's Will, there was now no longer any need for my Father to consider again the same process.

I have already answered your above series of questions in other passages of this email. You wish to believe there is a contradiction; because your mind cannot accept what I am saying to you because of the emotional attachment you have to denying that I am Jesus. As I have mentioned in my previous email to you, these emotions are born from a desire to prove to your wife and others that I am not Jesus, because if you accept I am Jesus, in your mind you would need to also accept my answers to your questions about my assessment of your own emotional condition, and you would also need to accept that the methods you are choosing, which you believe help you progress in Divine Love, are only helping you progress in natural love, and also other emotions that you are needing to work through because of your wife's feelings.

Of course, you do not wish to accept either my assessment, nor my method, as you have told me many times, and so you are now seeking a way to tell yourself that it is impossible for me to be Jesus. Others are also doing this for the same reasons. As I have said to you, you do not need to believe I am Jesus, and I have encouraged you to give the methods I have suggested a try, just as your wife has, whether you believe or not. But you do not wish to try the methods of emotional and spiritual work that I have outlined, because either of pride (which is really fear), or a desire for the process to be easier, and, because you do not wish to do it, you do not wish to accept those methods, and you look for an excuse not to try them rather than just sincerely giving them a go. So it is easier for you to say to yourself that since I am not Jesus, you can ignore the things that I am teaching.

And, Fred, you are entitled to ignore everything I say; this is your right, and your expression of free will. But when you place emotional pressure on others, such as your wife, to not do what they choose to do by withdrawing your approval from their right to make their own decisions, then you are breaking your Father's Laws, and you become in disharmony with God. Those close to you know the reasons why you are choosing to do this, and it has very little to do with my being Jesus or not. There are many persons I have talked to who do not believe I am Jesus, and yet they have begun the process of emotional work as I have described, and are finding it effective in allowing them to receive more Divine Love. So, you need to ask the question why you are so upset about my claims of being Jesus, and why you feel the need to discredit me so strongly that you are willing to break your heavenly Father's Laws to do it?

51.8. Question 5

You have asked:

" _By the Will of God, Jesus and many other Celestial Spirits have written many messages to Mr. Padgett and other mediums and who knows how many more in different languages and through people of different religions and so called races. What is the purpose for writing if an undeveloped soul is incapable of reaching salvation due to their sinful condition as demonstrated that supposedly a perfect soul in love is unable to reach this state of soul condition? If God wills it, then we must agree that God knows that one or someone and if not eventually all will reach this state of soul, otherwise, why waste the energy? Therefore, if this is true, and it must be true since it has been His Will, then what is the purpose for the reincarnation of the 14 where supposedly one has already failed and most still have a bunch of sins to work out and with certain ones, their conditions are not better if not worse than stated by you sometime ago?"_

Just because Apostle John passed away before he could complete the process of transition, this does not negate the fact that an "undeveloped soul" as you put it can reach at-onement with God on Earth, nor does it negate the purpose of the Padgett messages. Your reasoning is again flawed due to your emotional condition. You also seem to think that God exercises His Will against the will of an individual, but this is never the case, because God would then be breaking His Own Laws. Apostle John, for a short period, chose to exercise his will against the will of God, in the sense that God wanted Apostle John to enter a personal relationship with God, but Apostle John could not work his way through the emotions that were blocking this relationship for a period of time. During that period of time, Apostle John attracted some other negative circumstances, and the wicked spirits that wanted to harm Apostle John, because of the work he was already doing in reducing the power of wicked spirits on Earth, found an opportunity that they utilized in an attempt to stop the work being performed. The result was Apostle John's passing.

God did not will Apostle John's murder. Apostle John's murder occurred, and our Celestial brothers and sisters could see the potentiality of this occurring. Apostle John received many warnings to do things in a different way, and yet he continued in the same manner, and the result was quite predictable. At the moment, Fred, you yourself are receiving a lot of direction to do things differently to what you are, but you are also ignoring that direction and guidance. This does not affect God, or His Laws, or the truth.

Our personal failure to follow God's direction is only ever temporary, and does not affect our Father's Plans, because they are conceived perfectly in every way, and God is always concerned with the longer-term outcomes of the soul's condition.

Your comment about the personal condition of the 14 that you know of is not correct either. Many people display a false image to others about their own condition, and they do this for many reasons, including a desire for the approval of others, a desire for acceptance, a desire to feel good about themselves and so forth. You, Fred, sometimes do this yourself with your own parents, and with your own relationships. Apostle John was making rapid progress, since he was for the first time in his life beginning to act how he truthfully felt rather than doing what he perceived others around him wanted him to do. I had been encouraging him for sometime to do this, but he was so concerned before then about others opinions that he did not wish to incur their potential displeasure by acting as he truthfully felt. He was acting truthfully with how he felt with many things, but in the issue of identity, although he intellectually felt he was the Apostle John, he was yet to accept it emotionally, along with all of the associated emotions related to working through the issues.

As I have listed the categories of emotions in the previous question, you can see that the reincarnated soul has many more emotions to deal with than the average person, and, if you felt some compassion for Apostle John and this situation, rather than just attempting to discredit which is your desire, you would then be able to understand the difficulties that he was experiencing.

How Apostle John truthfully felt was still in disharmony with God's Laws, and so it appeared that he was actually regressing, whereas in reality, on this issue, he was now at least living in harmony with his own true feelings rather than trying to accept something that he had not dealt with the emotions about. Apostle John desired to ignore his own deep emotions regarding identity, and since I have had daily contact with him, I more than anyone else could understand the depth of those emotions, and the difficulties he was facing.

This was Apostle John making definite progress. He now was learning to live in harmony with his own feelings, and he had decided to do just that. But his feelings, of course, were still in disharmony, because he was afraid of confronting and releasing the emotions that directed his current decisions, and he did not feel he could trust his heavenly Father enough to work through them. He also found it difficult to trust me, just as you yourself feel, and so he did not completely believe that if he released the emotions he was feeling that his life would automatically improve, and that he would feel his Father's Love.

You seem to want to accuse me of lying about the condition of the 14, or, if not lying, certainly misrepresenting their condition either by mistake or purposefully. However, I know each of them intimately from the point of view of their emotional condition, and I do know that each of them are progressing, some very rapidly, but I am also aware that they each have some very large issues to face regarding their emotions in the future. I have faced most of them within myself, and so I completely understand the process they are going through, and how difficult it is. This neither changes the facts about the 14 having returned, nor does it mean that I am lying about who I am. I am only responsible for my own condition and I have no control over the condition of another person, just as my Father exercises no control over any person.

As I have mentioned to you previously, just because you want the process of emotional clearing, and the reception of Divine Love into the soul to be much easier and less painful, this does not mean that your desire will be realized. Our Father has Laws, as you know, and it is only when we work in harmony with those laws that we can receive the Divine Love. You want the laws to be easier, because you believe that it should be easier than I or others that I claim are the 14 appear to be experiencing. But if it was easier, Fred, why did I take 2000 years to get from the condition of the perfect natural man, to the state where I could complete a soul-union with my soulmate?

Can you not see that you are just imposing your desire to avoid your own emotion onto the comments you are making to myself and others? Can you not see that Apostle John himself was also attempting to deny his own emotion in a similar way, and all you are doing is copying what he felt like doing? Does not Apostle John's passing help you see that God's Laws do not change, and cannot be altered, no matter what your own personal beliefs, and no matter who you are? Why break His Laws (such as the Law of Free Will) just to prove that I am not Jesus? Can you not see your own anger is the result of the suppression of deeper emotions within you, and do you not feel that this anger is in disharmony with love? Can you not see that when you project your anger on others, all you are doing is further harming your own soul?

51.9. Summary

Fred, I do not take anything you say as a personal attack. I understand completely the emotional injuries you carry from your environment, and I know that when you allow the release of those injuries you will find that you no longer will have the same feelings towards me that you currently have.

Obviously if I claim to be Jesus and I am not, and what I preach does lead people away from God, rather than helping them to seek their Father as many are experiencing, then that is a serious matter. But surely Fred, surely you know me well enough already to see that I have given that a lot of very serious consideration. In addition, many people who do not believe I am Jesus both here and in the spirit world are allowing themselves to go through the emotional processes I have taught, and they are finding that their lives are improving, and they are working through their unhappiness and other emotions which cause them to feel disconnected from their Father. Your own wife is one of those persons.

God is interested in my intentions and motives. Are my motives to control others, to manipulate them? If you feel my motives are impure, then you don't have to worry about anything, because you can follow what you desire. But, if you wish to influence others into the same manner of beliefs, then surely you also need to ask yourself what your own motives for doing this are. And if you wish to stop others from experiencing the Love of their Father as they are by practicing what they are being taught, how do you think you will feel later when you realize that you have harmed them in this way?

As for your personal progress, well I am glad if you are focusing on God and His Help rather than focusing on the potentiality of the 14 being here, or on my identity. Your focus on my identity is the last thing I want, since one of the reasons why I returned was to try and prevent this focus on myself, and refocus everyone on the message. If you remember all my words, then you will remember that I have consistently told you to do this.

I am sorry if you have found the issue of the 14 a distraction from your relationship with God, but I have answered all of your questions over the past two years I have known you, openly and honestly. I was responding to your desire for knowledge, you were the one who first contacted me with questions, and since then I have spent a large amount of my time attempting to answer to your satisfaction what you are asking. At the time you did not appear to find these answers distressing, and it appears to me that only when you asked the questions about your own progression that you became pained by my answers, and since then you have found it more difficult to be honest and open with me.

As for your current emotions towards me, you have been covering them over for a long period as you know, and I am very happy that you are now in a condition where you feel you can be more open and honest with me. To me, that means that your spiritual condition is improving, and I am very happy about that.

I am also very happy that you have been able to ask me the question you have in your email in the open way in which you approached this. Many of the people on the email list you sent the message to have not been able to hear my more complete answers about the questions you have asked, and it gives them the opportunity to ponder over these matters, and also more easily understand the emotions facing the 14 as they progress, and it may give them more confidence that they too can progress, and that it is not as difficult for them as they maybe have previously believed.

I am happy to discuss with you anything you wish from this email and the previous one I sent you, either privately by phone or email, or publicly in the manner you have chosen. But I will be focusing primarily on emotions anytime I have a discussion with you, because I feel strongly that until you allow yourself to process those emotions differently, you will find it difficult to accept anything else I can talk to you about.

I hope that you can feel satisfied with my response, but if not, then I hope that you continue to focus your efforts onto your relationship with your heavenly Father, and processing through your emotions.

I love you my brother

Jesus

52. Part 8: Dialog With Suzanne

52.1. Suzanne Wrote After Our Introduction to Each Other

Hello dear AJ!

It's a pleasure to meet you, I've heard quite a lot about you already from my friend George, who sent you my email and hooked you up with Kath, our friend you wrote to which you sent along to me. Thanks for including me, it was interesting to read your thoughts on reincarnation and to learn more about you! I am aware of your writings also on the Divine Truth forum, but haven't read very much there, just some excerpts of your writings, mostly which George was kind enough to send to me.

AJ, I want to be your friend, if you will have me! I'd like to help you in your work, of spreading messages to be more aware of God's Truth and Love, and Universal Laws our Creator designed to help us, and of helping our brothers and sisters awaken to their souls more while on Earth to ascend even closer to God, within.

We have some differences between us and our beliefs. I see you don't believe in reincarnation, and I do. I haven't always believed in it though, and I am willing to put aside my beliefs in that while interacting with you at least, in order to better understand and listen and focus on what we do have in common, which is namely serving our Father, God, and increasing love and abundance and joy, on Earth and in Spirit, forever! And advancing more fully towards our "potential" shall we say!!!

George had sent me a book he compiled of James Padgett's messages from your soul, Jesus, back in the early 20th century. I've read nearly 90% of the book and found much that challenged me, especially there being no reincarnation and God excluding any from His Kingdom with the separating those focused on natural love versus those focused on developing in Divine Live, those teachings don't sound like the God of Love I tend to think of!

As you're aware, this material is very difficult for those of us who either took a traditional religious path or an alternate route full of past life and reincarnation beliefs! I got most of my info at first from reading Edgar Cayce, a late 19th early 20th century trance medium and healer, which I read while in my 20s, 20 years ago!

I am 41 years old, married, with two dogs, I work full time as an admin assistant. I have been on a spiritual seeking path since my dog Ranger died on 11/11/99 and I felt I needed to understand why God was punishing me. We'd just moved into our dream home, ten acres below a beautiful mountain in my hometown in the country of Vermont, New England, U.S.A. I went from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows and my world crashed down around me when he got hit by a tractor trailer truck in front of me when he escaped one day. I was suicidal that year... quietly though... I told no one of my pain. But I sought God and for help to understand and know whether I was being punished and judged by God or whether I would ever be allowed to have a happy life again.

Then I found a forum that talked about a Rainbow Bridge in Heaven... where our pets are on the other side waiting for us to rejoin them! I sure hope that one is true!!! And I had my faith restored and my life force was renewed. I began following that website, which was a Linda Goodman astrology forum, for a couple of years. And some folks there created their own website. I read W_F_ Forum for two and a half years and met our mutual friend George and also later on Kath joined there. I found my voice to finally write online September 23, 2002, to W_F_ and P___ and George, who had practically saved my lives by renewing my interest in Atlantis, Edgar Cayce /Past Life Readings, Whooping Cranes, Native Americans, Dolphins, spirituality, metaphysics, etc. So I have always had a spiritual journey tied in with a belief in reincarnation!

In December, on the winter solstice and a lunar eclipse on 12/21/2002, I opened a forum within W_F_'s in which to channel spirit messages, called "Spirit in the Sky A Journey Back to God". The name of it now is Spirit Within II, and is an archive of all the messages over the years that I've gotten, including some from your soul, Jesus, and some from Mary.

On 12/21/2002 I also met my first spirit guides, my twin flame Peter and Archangel Gabriel. They came through when I had already agreed to try to channel, I didn't know them before that! I took a leap of faith, and there they were, waiting for me still. I had channeled spontaneously 12 years before that, while reading the Bible for hours one day at work, and it sounded like God's Angels wanted me to work with them for the assistance of humanity! It was pretty scary and I did not trust what just happened to me at all, I thought it was "possession" no matter how angelic it seemed, I wasn't prepared for it!

So I took 12 years and read everything I could get my hands on, about angels, Ets, spirit world, NDEs, etc; all the New Age stuff, Edgar Cayce, Ruth Montgomery. Then I started reading online in 2000. Once I found my voice though, things started rolling. I began channeling spirit angel messages for all, in my forum at W_F_'s. The same month, December 2002, my guides told me I had been Thomas, the apostle, who wrote a gospel. I didn't know about it but a friend sent me a link, there IS a gospel of Thomas... in the Nag Hammadi Library, not in the Bible though. Did you know about those? You must! Hehe.

Well anyway, there I had my first major spiritual conflict to deal with, a past life as a disciple of Jesus?!!! And a few more they told me, in ancient Egypt and in Atlantis.

Three months later we began giving messages as readings for friends who would ask to hear from Peter & Archangel Gabriel, through me. I am still doing those readings, for free, 4 years later. The readings tend to offer soul level guidance, to help people make wiser choices, more loving choices. You can read some if you want, to judge what level my guides are at, if of 6th dimension, higher or lower! I'm sure you'll find the energy high in love and light as many have been helped and felt blessed by their messages over the years.

And so my journey progressed, believing and hearing about past lives through my own guides readings and through other psychic friends, and I began to notice a soul group trend forming, with my friends at W_F_ Forum. Two you have met, George and Kath! We all thought we were all there 2000 years ago. And W_F_ and another friend, too. Others joined and were also sharing about their lives then and it was discussed amongst our small group that we had returned as a soul group for a common purpose, that of creating more awareness of God and Oneness, of not choosing hate, fear or duality, but choosing unconditional love and surrender to God and creating a better reality.

So I felt a real connection, finally, to what my guides had told me that first year I was channeling, about Thomas, the more people I met it started to look plausible to me! It took me about a year to truly be close to accepting it might be true. I was, after all, extremely passionate and frequently sharing with friends online a lot of Jesus teachings, simply picking up his lessons and carrying on with spreading those same messages of love and forgiveness and of seeking the Father's guidance, which I felt were keys to making progress as human beings.... and people's soul journeys really matter to me!!!!! Many of the readings I was doing also seemed focus on our soul development, too.

Then I started having more things resonate and click for me, and I began to really believe I was the soul who was Thomas. I got many messages for a friend who was Mary Magdalene. I am not sure if you have met her in your life or not, AJ. If you have another person who was she, in your life, I would not be surprised. There seem to be a great many who have this Mary Magdalene connection in the world today and a friend has a book written on her hypnotic regression subjects who were the women around Jesus; "The Lost Sisterhood" by Julia Ingram.

I'm so glad the truth is finally coming out about your child with her!!!! I knew that a few years ago through connecting with spirit guidance, including your soul and Mary herself, for my friend with the Mary Magdalene connection. We knew she had at least one child with you. That is so great about this story coming more to light, especially with the DaVinci Code. It just shows people how much the church covered up, in order to retain more control over the masses. They made you a God and Divine, only, and took away your humanity!!!! That is the whole point of what you taught, how to be closer to God and be children of God, in love, while being human! Oh good grief, things got so twisted around. Well this is our chance to make it right, AJ. So many are awakening to what's been manipulated, and lost sight of the true teachings. That of our Oneness with God and each other! I know you did not come as a Saviour or a Messiah, and you did not want a religion created in your name, but rather to foster a connection within us to God, which would bring us into his Divine Love and Light!

Oh dear, I am rambling so much! But it's my first email to you and I wanted you to know a bit about me and what I am passionate about!

So for the last two years I've been growing a lot and helping uplift as many as I possibly can through my spirit messages and just being a friend to my friends and doing the family thing too! And in August of 2005, my friend W_F_ got inspired by his guides, one of whom is Mary, and he told me then that I was also being guided by Mary and Jesus. They are my spirit guides now, in addition to Peter and Gabriel. So for two years now I have been connecting with your soul and your twin flame's soul for guidance in my life.

I truly believe they are who they say they are. All the messages are always very loving and seem to me and others on spiritual paths to be of higher spiritual wisdom, gnosis. The messages have uplifted and supported many and just a few over the years have not resonated as the info contrasts too great with a person's belief system, in which case some people have accused me of interacting with Satan, just because of their beliefs being challenged. I do know that Satan is not a real being but is symbolic for the evil present within us which is a choice for us, choose for light and God... or turn away and choose the darkness. Always the choices are ours, and always we have many opportunities to become closer, many teachers appear as we seek it, it will be.

AJ, I have a strong calling and passion in my life to teach as Jesus taught! When I got baptized in the Advent Christian Church at age 11 in 1976, I felt that year that when I grew up, God wanted me to be a missionary for him, telling people of God's Love and Plan for them!

Did you see my Easter message I sent to friends this weekend? I asked George to share it with you. I love you AJ... Jesus... Yeshua!!!!

I do not see why my not believing as you do in reincarnation, and whether it's real or not makes no real difference to me; it's just been my conditioning thus far on my journey. Well I don't see why that should stop us from getting to know one another and possibly being able to be working together and creating a more harmonic, loving, peaceful, joyful life on Earth and on the soul path, for us and our brothers and sisters! I think we'll get past our differences and work for the common good of all, and your teachings as Jesus are very important to me, AJ. I love him so much... and now I love you so much too! You taught me well.

Whether I was Thomas or not - I will leave it up to you whether that might be possible or not. I have no clue really as to the truth of that, am just sharing what I was told by spirit guides and that I've lived believing this, which has greatly inspired me! And I'm alright with just being me, Suzanne, right now in this life and doing the best I can, in this life. I seem to agree with you on almost all your things you've shared AJ, except for the reincarnation issue, and I care about what you care about - loving, uplifting and enlightening and helping our brothers and sisters to rise up, to let go of what holds them back and blocks Divine Love from flowing in their lives, to have less limitations in this life and beyond, in spirit; to be able to rise higher towards God, within our hearts, and experience more light and love and truth. And to reach the highest state of being possible for a soul, that of truth and unity and oneness with God & all!

Thank you for sharing your insights, which George passed along to me, about my situation with both Kath and W_F_ and the one with N_B_ and his friend, who says he is also Jesus. I'm aware this is a very sensitive issue for you too, AJ. So many will be claiming to be your soul in these days. It's a time for great discernment. I won't say I completely believe you at this time, but I will just say I am open to believing you might be, and am willing to listen and discern for myself, with receiving guidance from God to keep me on my path, whatever is happening, the truth will be revealed!!!!

Well this could be a very interesting path up ahead! I hope you didn't mind my sharing so much? I wanted you to know of my belief in having a past life as the disciple Thomas right up front! Hopefully you can shed some light on that, and whether you have met Mary Magdalene yet here?

I'll have a ton of questions but I want to read more and see if you've already answered them, before I ask you a lot and take up any more of your time! I feel you are taking care of a whole lot at present, are probably out helping 100s and 1000s of people when you are away, and I know you have to provide for yourself too AJ! Thank you so much for sharing as you do online, that in and of itself is an accomplishment, to uplift and help so many become closer to God and love, while having a busy physical experience as a spiritual being! Hehe. I'm glad you are writing and in touch with people, especially about sharing how spiritual awareness expands as we grow as souls!!!! Growing ever closer to, or further away from (using free will), to God, our Father and Source!

AJ, may your work on Earth be blessed and fruitful and may you be delighted and happy and joyful. May God's Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven!

All my love,

Suzanne

52.2. AJ's First Response

Hello Suzanne

Rather than reply immediately to your email, which I enjoyed by the way, I was wondering if you, Peter and Gabriel would like to try an experiment. Of course, you do not have to, but I believe it would be very informative, both for yourself, and also for Peter and Gabriel.

I was wondering firstly if would be able to communicate with Peter and Gabriel regarding me, asking them to be completely honest and forthright regarding their feelings about the things they have heard from me via you. I am just interested in their personal feelings, and not in what they have heard from others. Please feel free to write down their response and send it to me.

I have asked some Celestial spirits to be present when you do this. After Peter and Gabriel have finished talking to you about their feelings about myself, and, if they both agree, please ask the Celestial spirits who AJ has talked to about this situation to come and talk with Peter and Gabriel about the process of progression above the 6th and 7th spheres. This may take some time, perhaps even a day or so of our time. Please encourage them to trust the Celestial spirits who come, and to evaluate more fully and experiment with what is being said to them. They may also experience some deep emotions, and I would encourage them to allow the experience.

Then, after they have met and discussed matters with the Celestial spirits, I wonder if you would be willing to channel another message from them asking them to talk openly and honestly about what they have discovered. I am very interested in both hearing about their feelings and emotions, and also hearing about their impressions about the whole experience. I am also interested in comparing their initial feelings and emotions with the feelings they have after the experience, since I believe it will be a very powerful example that can later be used to assist others.

Anyway, Suzanne, you may find this whole process very beneficial for yourself as well, so please consider giving it a go.

I am in the process of writing a response to your email in a more general manner, and also reading through some of your website material, and I will send you quite a number of comments regarding all of your experiences. I am very interested in hearing your response after I have done that.

Cheers for now

Love

AJ

52.3. Suzanne Wrote After Trying AJ's Suggestions

Message for AJ

From Peter & Gabriel on May 4, 2007

Channelled through Suzanne

Peter & Gabriel, are you ready? Would you like to do as AJ suggests?

" _Yes we are here and we are ready. We have given this much thought AJ, over the past week, since you wrote this to Suzanne. She has been having many issues regarding this, but we ourselves are ready. We shall tell you our feelings about you, first._

Honestly we see that you come from a place of love and interest in the wellbeing of others, especially those of Earth. You are also interested in assisting those in spirit, we know. You seem to be a gentle soul, and a kind one. You have great compassion. You have great understanding, especially with the soul experiential level of being, as well as the human experience. Our thoughts are that you aim to bring many closer to God's Truth, Love & Light, and we applaud this as we seek this too.

We offer our thoughts on the things we have heard from you, through Suzanne. We are not believing in there having been no reincarnation for the souls of Earth, except for you and your group, so far. We do not see this as being true. We believe there is an experience of reincarnation for many souls, not just you and the other 13. We have seen evidence of this and we have spoken of it ourselves many times in readings we've given Suzanne, which has helped a great number of people understand what are the factors affecting them in their lives, that have come from past experiences.

We have noticed that you seem to exclude an experience of reincarnation in your teachings, other than for your elect group, and we believe this to be in error. We do not wish to judge you however, for you are following your true path, and this is what your soul and your guides have led you to, for a path. You are supposed to teach the path to God's Divine Love. Others teach this also, yet they include the experience of reincarnation as a valid pathway too. It is alright for there to be differences, for even in the spirit and Celestial realms there are widely varying differences in perceptions and experience.

Not all souls get to be aware of reincarnation, and a great many are likely never going to understand that is a possibility; simply because of their beliefs they totally reject that. We speak also of those who you formerly hung out with, in spirit, after your last life. We do not believe you were Jesus, Yeshua Ben Yosef. We believe you are intricately interweaving your soul with his though, and he tells us he overlights you and guides you, and this is the truth as far as we know. Jesus leads you and you have trusted and have faith and have been led to believe you were him in order to achieve your soul purpose of this lifetime, to lead people closer to him and closer to God, and to put people into a more harmonious soul condition, for their afterlife to lead them to even greater possibilities.

As you know the souls do live on and many choose to remain ignorant of their potential. This is a sad state, indeed. For to make progress, one has to acknowledge that there is much to learn. We have learned a lot on this side, since we transitioned. We have explained to Suzanne that I, Gabriel, am not the Archangel, but that I am aligned closely with Archangel Gabriel's energy and vibration, as she is also. She understands that I never said I was the Archangel and that is/was her own beliefs in me being such that led her to insist that I was all this time. I saw that it was best and for her higher good to allow her her path and her chosen beliefs, knowing it would not harm her and would in all likelihood help many who also believed I am an archangel. I am not; I am merely Gabriel who seeks to assist all to find God's Love and Light within themselves.

Peter and I have very often spoken of past lives with Suzanne and with many others, who have been helped through our interactions. We have told Suzanne that I, Gabriel, have not incarnated and that is not quite true, for I was there in the beginning, when the Atlantean experiment got underway in the first place. I have chosen to remain in the spirit form since then, although I was given the opportunity by God to return, I chose not to.

You would not be aware of all the opportunities offered to other souls, AJ, by God. You are only aware of your own soul condition and of the souls closest to you, who have returned, and those who remain in spirit. We suggest that you remain open to other possibilities, too. For you yourself wrote about the group of souls and how you also did not realize, as recently as the early 1900s through your messages to James Padgett, that you were not at all aware of the possibility for reincarnating upon Earth. This was the truth, for you, and for your friends, at that time.

You spoke to James as Jesus and we tell you that both you and Jesus were impressing yourselves upon him, seeking to enlighten him and in turn, enlighten others. You have been alive on Earth only once before, and we shall not explore that, although we know the truth of who you were. You do not, you know yourself to be Jesus.

There is more to this story for you to uncover, one day, but it will not occur until after your transition back to spirit, in your life review then. You have come here with a great plan and a great guidance team in spirit, as well as your team on Earth who surrounds you in support of you, and this is the best way. You have to follow your heart and soul and what you are given is what you need to lead you into harmony with God and all, and to provide for those who are following a different path.

Suzanne and her companions are on a different path than you, but they are working towards the same goal, of uniting mankind once again with their spirits, and with God. We are going to say this one last thing to you today. We are very willing to meet with your Celestial spirit friends. They will be welcome to meet with us and explain things to us from their perception. We are not closed to changing how we perceive, we are simply quite positive that we have different understandings of the soul processes of growth for a very good reason and purpose.

God knows who to place where, and why, and what to direct them to work on, in improving their soul condition. We leave you with those thoughts today.

God Bless! Creator Bless!"

AJ wrote: "I have asked some Celestial spirits to be present when you do this. After Peter and Gabriel have finished talking to you about their feelings about myself, and, if they both agree, please ask the Celestial spirits who AJ has talked to about this situation to come and talk with Peter and Gabriel about the process of progression above the 6th and 7th spheres. This may take some time, perhaps even a day or so of our time. Please encourage them to trust the Celestial spirits who come, and to evaluate more fully and experiment with what is being said to them. They may also experience some deep emotions, and I would encourage them to allow the experience."

I spoke about the above message from AJ to Peter & Gabriel, and they have received this message, with love and appreciation for every effort made to enlighten them and others. They in turn will use all knowledge and wisdom attained to further assist other souls to also make progress.

Dear AJ, I am most interested in your response to their shared thoughts here. I also would very much like to hear from you regarding our previous communications. I have had so much come up for me as a result of meeting you and the things you've given me to consider. I appreciate knowing the truth about Gabriel, and it does not bother me for I know him to be a loving and gentle soul, with a great sense of humour, and I know our messages together have helped many people in the last four years.

My own soul journey is ever changing and I am ever growing, and so all is well, in that regard! Be blessed AJ! Walk your walk and know that we wouldn't have missed this opportunity to be here now, for all the world!!!!!!

I'd like to know how you think God selects our opportunities for incarnation. As a young child of about 6 years old, with a little sister of 3, and a baby brother, I told my mother something that she didn't understand, but I knew more than she did. I asked her why I was born first, why wasn't I the second or third child? She said that God decided to give her me first. But I knew that I could have chosen to be the second or third child. I knew it was my choice to come first. I just didn't remember why that was. It was many, many years later that I learned of souls and choosing their parents and conditions of their lives, through Edgar Cayce's life readings, and understanding karma.

When I first read of reincarnation, it was from his readings, and it all felt so right and true to me. It made me remember being a child of six and knowing that I could have chosen to not be the firstborn to my parents. I have had other experiences too, but that's the earliest one that I know of that came from my pure soul awareness, not my human understanding. Just something to think about. My parents at that time were Catholic. Why on Earth would I even have asked my mother that, had I not known about God & my soul planning my birth order, beforehand?

Love,

Suzanne

52.4. AJ's Response to the First Letter From Peter & Gabriel

Hello Suzanne

(Smile)

Well, before I comment regarding your spirit guides comments, it would be better that the second half of what I have suggested is carried out. Remember I said;

"After Peter and Gabriel have finished talking to you about their feelings about myself, and, if they both agree, please ask the Celestial spirits who AJ has talked to about this situation to come and talk with Peter and Gabriel about the process of progression above the 6th and 7th spheres. This may take some time, perhaps even a day or so of our time. Please encourage them to trust the Celestial spirits who come, and to evaluate more fully and experiment with what is being said to them. They may also experience some deep emotions, and I would encourage them to allow the experience."

I would like to hear from Peter and Gabriel about their experience after talking to these Celestial spirits, and after they have tried the experiment that these Celestial spirits have suggested for them to try. The reason for this is that it is important Peter and Gabriel have all of the information at their fingertips (as it were) before we progress with a further discussion about their comments.

Also, it is possible that their opinions may change if they personally fully investigate all that the Celestial spirits present to them rather than just assuming they already know the answers being presented to them by the Celestial spirits, and I would be very interested in hearing from them regarding their consideration of the information and knowledge that the Celestial spirits present to them.

Once that has been done, and investigated fully by Peter and Gabriel, I would be very interested in hearing again from them about the results of their investigations, and the results of their experimenting more fully with the information that is presented to them by the Celestial spirits.

Then I will be able to comment more fully about their first message to me, and also about the subsequent information they have presented after their personal investigation. It is generally not a good time to comment until each party has personally investigated each possibility presented. Does that make sense, Suzanne?

Cheers for now my friend

Love

AJ

52.5. Suzanne's Response to AJ's Further Request

Good morning AJ!

I appreciate your being in touch with me, and Peter & Gabriel are grateful for your presence in their lives, as well. It is going good. Much different than I thought it would. My ego/lower self was running interference pretty good with imaging what they were going to say, I can tell you that I didn't think this would be a pleasant situation at all, but I am instead pleasantly surprised! LOL

Here is their message to you, this morning. I haven't spoken to them since yesterday morning when I got their first message, prior to their meeting your Celestial spirit friends.

AJ, at some point I believe I am going to help you more actively with your work. I want to learn from you and to assist you in leading our fellow brothers and sisters to God's Divine Love.

Message for AJ

From Peter & Gabriel on May 5, 2007

Channelled through Suzanne

" _Dear AJ,_

Our friend in peace and in love, we are here to thank you for a most wondrous experience with your Celestial spirit friends. We have been seeing some beautiful sights, including the heart flow of the love of God! It is a wondrous beautiful fountainhead, which we never realized we could take part in such a way. There are souls who gather closer to God than we knew was happening. And we are awakening even yet again, to a new realm of possibilities for us, and through our interactions with Suzanne and ones like you we hope to sustain this level of being within ourselves, within the higher light and love realm.

We have been guided to tell you something. Our hearts are open and remain open to your truth, which is God's truth, and we shall be supportive of you and your work on Earth, and we hope Suzanne shall be too. We are now aware of there being greater possibilities for us to envelope Suzanne with greater love and light, because of what we have seen and taken part in. Again, we hope to sustain this.

The angelic beings who showed us the way, the truth and the light are going to remain in assistance to us, and for this we thank you, and them. We will make every effort to prove ourselves worthy and to keep enhancing and growing our spiritual condition. We were led to believe you were delusional, but perhaps we were the ones under delusions. We will try not to assume things or to trust ones who have more limited ways of understanding, again.

Your love is great for all and you led us to a greater love for all. It is all good. We are going to continue the experiments given to us, to widen our hearts, minds and perceptions, and to discard old beliefs, which were limiting to us. As this happens in the spirit world, we realize it is even harder for those in material form to understand, since the scope of their perception is so focused on the physical senses, they are forgetting to tune into the spiritual sense, the heart.

We have been given a great blessing in focusing ourselves better, in spirit, in order to help ourselves and help others make spiritual progress. We commend you AJ, our friend, for the work you do on Earth and in the heavens, for you have indeed been keeping busy in the last 2,000 years with enlightening many, with leading many to love.

We know how important this work is and we will continue to try our outreach efforts, but with more compassion and understanding of how the soul progression occurs. We ask for God's blessings on you and your group in all the work you do, leading the Way. Amen and peace, brother.

God Bless! Creator Bless!"

I asked Peter & Gabriel if this is good and they said yes, this is what they want to say. They are so very happy now, having seen what they have seen, and felt what they felt. They never knew what was possible and now they are excited and happy. They said they would also work on releasing emotional blockages that had held them back. They seem most grateful to you, AJ. They thanked me with great warmth and sincerity for helping them meet you. I thank you too, my friend. They seem much happier and ready to move on, now. I hope we will continue to work together, Peter, Gabriel and myself.

I have recently been talking more with our Father God and praying about many of these issues I am having, you are not the only Jesus I have encountered, as you know from my friend George sharing letters of mine with you. I have had great confusion about all of this, and about the friendships I have had to leave behind lately, which makes me sad, and I hope I am on the right path and making the best choices. When I pray to God, and with the messages I am given in various ways, I am told to trust God and have faith, and to follow God's Spirit guidance, the still, small voice within, which will lead me true. I am doing my best to do this, and it's hard to leave behind relationships I had long been comfortable with but which probably were not furthering my growth, spiritually! I pray to God every day, releasing all that does not serve my higher good, releasing all negative energies from my life, and I ask God to fill me with His Love, Light and Wisdom, to help me make choices for my higher good today and every day, and to help me to help others. I pray a lot more than that, every morning, but that is the part I want to share with you. I know God hears my prayers and I've been praying in this way for several years now. I believe God brings people into my life to help me be closer to Him, like you. Bless you AJ. I hope your life is full of smiles and laughter and joy, and lots of loving hearts opening up, lots of souls blossoming into the fullness of their Beings, awakening more truly to seek God's Divine Love.

Love,

Suzanne

52.6. AJ's Response to Second Letter From Peter & Gabriel

Hello Suzanne

Well, I am so glad that Peter and Gabriel allowed themselves to investigate what the Celestial spirits have talked to them about! I know they have a deep desire to help people here on Earth, and I was hopeful that they would overlook my "delusions" and at least investigate the possibility of what I was saying to you and them, and it is a tribute to their humility that they desired to do so. I was very happy they did, and I feel a deep affection for them. Not all spirits react the same way to the information given to them, and I am glad they are desirous of investigating things further. Many spirits just ignore information presented by a person living on Earth, not understanding the true source of the information.

So you were running interference (laughs)? Well, I am also glad you were surprised then. I know that the reincarnation teaching has been important for you, but I am sure that in the coming days, Peter and Gabriel will be able to explain why they believed so strongly in the teaching as they did (since there are some reasons which may not be apparent to you), and what is the truth about reincarnation.

I am very hopeful that you will continue automatic writing, and posting your posts received by Peter and Gabriel on the forum you have been posting on in the past. I also hope they will continue working with you and that they can present more and more truths as best they can in the written form. If you can continue your own development in Divine Love, you will be able to maintain a very good connection with them, and in fact, your clarity of spirit communication will also improve quite a lot as well. I am very interested in Peter and Gabriel talking/writing about their own experience up until learning about the Divine Love and it's transformation of the soul/heart, and then talking about their experiences since learning what they have learnt from the Celestial spirits. It would also be very good if they could consider comparing their previous beliefs with their developing beliefs, and examining more closely what "evidence" they had previously gathered that tended to support the teaching of reincarnation as they believed it to be, and how their current knowledge and experience allows them to now see what was truly happening. Presenting these truths will have a good effect on those who examine your posts. Also, when it is appropriate, I would like to post some of your posts of automatic writing from Peter and Gabriel on the Divine Love forum, since I believe it will be very good for different ones to read them and go through the experience of spiritual growth along with Peter and Gabriel as they themselves progress.

I was also wondering whether I could have their permission to document my emails to you thus far, and their responses to me thus far, and send this out to other persons who may be benefited by their new experience. I believe that Ann may also benefit from a description of what happened over the past few weeks, since her heart is also very much set on the reincarnation beliefs she has. If Peter and Gabriel could let me know whether they would be comfortable with my talking to others in a public setting about their experience, that would be good. I believe it will help many other spirits to try the "experiments". There is no need for them to feel bad in any way about their previous teachings since we are all learning, and because there is much truth in what they were saying to different individuals about their emotions. I believe their willingness and openness to discuss their personal experience will go a long way towards correcting any damage that may have been done in the past, and I just wanted to remind them that God looks at the intention of their heart, which has been to help others learn more truth. These pure intentions bring joy to our heavenly Father's Heart.

I could feel Peter and Gabriel's feelings when I was reading both their first and second messages to me, and their increased happiness is beautiful.

Anyway Suzanne, I would be happy to call you on the phone (I can call the USA for 9c per 10 mins) if you want to talk about any of these things, or I am happy to converse with you via email time permitting.

I am so glad that you were able to be a part of this experience, and I am sure that you will find you will have more of these experiences in the future.

Bye for now

Love

Your brother

AJ

52.7. Suzanne Wrote In Response

Hello AJ,

You have such a warm, loving energy in your letters; I really like corresponding with you. Although your ideas and philosophy, and more so your requests of me are quite the challenge to me, I am pleased with these challenges as they get me to think and reconsider my beliefs. I have changed my mind often along the way of my life and it if comes along with a greater capacity to love and receive love... well that's always a huge benefit of course!

AJ, it's not Peter & Gabriel who would have a problem sharing the email exchanges between ourselves in a public forum, it is myself. They have never minded sharing things publicly, but they are concerned for me now, with all that's recently come up.

Right now I have so many questions that I would like to hear more on, before I agree to share either our emails or future messages to come, regarding you and the path to Divine Love. My big challenge is not how I myself feel about this, if I were "free" and unencumbered by other's expectations, I would wholeheartedly try this. I am just really concerned for my friends who have gotten used to Peter & Gabriel, and myself, behaving and believing a certain way over the last 4 years. My concern is that anything I do to widely diverge from the trail I've been blazing will come as a shock they won't be adequately prepared to address, and I am worried they will feel betrayed and let down. I don't want people taken out of their comfort zone because of any sudden shifting by me, or Peter & Gabriel. Especially thinking of all the friends I have who have total belief in their past lives being real, and who have received a messages, or perhaps many, from P&G and myself about their past lives. It's been a very integral part of the readings over the last 4 years, how the past intertwines and affects people today.

The way P&G explained it to me, why they expressed so often about reincarnation and past lives, is that many people can't handle a feeling of having to take responsibility for something in their present life that is causing them great pain, and if they are able to distance themselves from it and think it's from an earlier life, they are more receptive to healing their imbalances and emotional blockages. That is what they said to me when I asked about why so many past life messages in our readings we've done. That they have always pointed out what needs healing in the body or the behaviour patterns, in terms of a past life often, and that is the purpose behind many readings, to help people get in better balance and better able to move ahead with positive direction and insights into what their "issues" are. And they have always been very good about explaining past lives in terms of a connection with this life, either a gift awakened or yet to be awakened to, or in something needing to be healed or balanced, or in regards to relationship troubles. They have always made it relatable to the present conditions, in terms of making a connection to the past.

Also they spoke with me about the very specific past lives they mentioned I had with Peter, and why they all came up. It seems it had to do with me and how it helped me to accept them and my path of being a messenger, to have connections brought up with Edgar Cayce, ancient Egypt, Atlantis and, of course, Jesus' lifetime. It turned out to further help me in the following years, after all those past life connections were revealed, because of people who felt I was part of their soul group, as a result of all I had been sharing all along. So it was part of a framework being laid out for me, and others I would meet along the way, including my own friend W_F_, who gave me my first cyber-home for being a channel for spirit messages.

Peter & Gabriel do seem very happy about what they are discovering now, and I felt their energy was so different with that message in response to you, the 2nd one. They really are very kind and loving spirits and I appreciate them being around very much. Last night I knew I could choose to banish them from my life, as I did with the Keepers of Time group a year ago. And as I thought of it, I felt P&G getting very sad and yet understanding why I might choose that. But it made me very sad, to think about never talking with them again or never relaying another helpful message from us 3 again either. And so I chose to keep them with me, to not ask for new spirit guides. We all felt better, getting over that hurdle!

I'm still very unsure about channeling for others right now, with all that's come up recently. I turned down one request for a reading yesterday, in light of these issues, I thought it's not good to channel right now, when I have so much to resolve within me about my guidance team in spirit, and my own condition.

I haven't been channeling messages for all in a very long time, probably last October was the last one I did? On Easter my guides surprised me when I asked them to give me a message for all, and in turn they asked me to share it from my own self, in my words, with their inspiration, including Jesus and Mary. Did you read that one, AJ? I'm curious to know what you think of that message. What parts would you consider are erroneous in this?

I just don't know about sharing our messages with others, not just yet. I'll give it more thought though. I've been reading yesterday in the Divine Love forum, I hadn't seen that before but George had mentioned it. It's good reading. I don't see you there though, are you posting there and is that the public setting you are wanting to share our exchanges within? I'd like to read more of your words to get a feel for you and what you are doing, before I join in with sharing mine and my guide's experiences, if you don't mind. I just want to feel more comfortable, a great deal is shifting for me right now, and I'm being challenged all over the place with various situations in my life, on my spiritual path. It seems the more I grow, the bigger and tougher the challenges get that I need to clear or get through!

Private sharing via email with folks who might benefit from our exploring and shifting would not be as hard for me to consider.

Kath will not want to hear anything you have to say regarding me or Peter or Gabriel. She just wrote to George last week and asked him to stop sending emails to both of us together. She blames me for our estrangement. I haven't been writing to Kath for about a month, because my friend Mary made me choose her or Kath. I didn't want to leave Kath out in the cold like I did, but I had to make up my mind which friend was better for me, and I chose Mary.

And as for me channeling any more, I am too concerned right now for having possibly led people down the wrong path, and far too uncertain as to what I've done that possibly harmed people.

AJ, I don't know why you want to spend your very precious time on talking with me? I am just a mixed-up confused mess. Maybe we could wait and talk when I am more clear on things? I'd like to keep writing back and forth with you, when we each have time for that, in the meantime. If you do ever want to call me, try me on Tuesday nights when my husband is at the fire department, but I need to know in advance so I can be ready and to make sure my husband won't be around. He's not into the spirituality stuff, says it's a physical life meant to be lived for the physical world now, we can do the spiritual stuff later! He's also very jealous and possessive, he doesn't even like it when I go online when he's home, unless he's on the phone or gone to bed early. He knows I talk with friends I've met online and he knows about my channeling and the forums I've hosted at over the years. He just doesn't like it, wants me to live a "normal" life I guess, but I'm not normal, well normal for me! Hehe.

I am glad to have met you. You definitely are a kindred soul, we want the same thing, for all to feel the love of God more!

Love,

Suzanne

52.8. AJ's Answer to Suzanne's Questions

Hello Suzanne

It is good to hear from you again. I know that you are going through many changes, and that the information you are now receiving both from myself and from Peter and Gabriel is confronting quite a few emotions within yourself. I also believe that as you read this message, it may be advantageous for Peter and Gabriel to be present as you read. I thought I would address some of your statements and questions by firstly quoting what you have said, and then talking about how this relates to Divine Truth.

Firstly I need to point out to you, as Peter and Gabriel already have, that the ideas I am presenting you with are not my own ideas, but rather are the Divine Truth, or, in other words, Truth that comes directly from God. Remember Peter and Gabriel said in their previous message to me: "Our hearts are open and remain open to your truth, which is God's truth". All I have ever done is to spend my life discovering God's Truth, and then, as God messenger, teach others the same truth that I have discovered. Because of this, truth is progressive, and we can never say that we have the entire truth, because if we did, we would be God. Only God has Absolute Truth, and throughout eternity we will continue to discover more truth as we progress in Divine Love. This is a very important principle to teach others, the principle that truth is eternally progressive.

Well you raise some very important issues that I should like to talk about with you.

You said the following: "Right now I have so many questions that I would like to hear more on, before I agree to share either our emails or future messages to come, regarding you and the path to Divine Love. My big challenge is not how I myself feel about this, if I were "free" and unencumbered by other's expectations, I would wholeheartedly try this." Firstly, the truth is that you ARE free and unencumbered by others expectations, but you just do not FEEL LIKE YOU ARE. One emotion currently being confronted within yourself is this; "How do I cope emotionally with changing my own direction when others may project negative emotions towards me because of the changes I make?" Currently you are very concerned about what others opinions of you are, and this is preventing your being able to accept truth. You are concerned because you are avoiding your own emotions of possibly being rejected by them, and losing relationships or friendships because of their reaction. You are also sad because it seems to you that you may have taught others things that have been in error, and you are now worried about how their reaction to this will affect you, and to a degree, you have some potential embarrassment to face when others confront you about your change in direction.

Peter and Gabriel know that they have been a part of these teachings that may need to be UN-TAUGHT, and it is the responsibility of the teacher, when a teacher finds new truth, to un-teach the teachings they have previously taught. Of course, if we always remind our listeners that we are always progressing in truth, and that at any time we can only present what we believe is the truth in our current understanding, then the people who have been listening to Peter and Gabriel through yourself will come to understand that even when we are a spirit, truth remains progressive. I am attaching something I have written about truth, and I feel it would be good for you to read it when Peter and Gabriel are with you, since it will help you understand God's perspective regarding Divine Truth.

You said the following: "I am just really concerned for my friends who have gotten used to Peter & Gabriel, and myself behaving and believing a certain way over the last 4 years. My concern is that anything I do to widely diverge from the trail I've been blazing, will come as a shock they won't be adequately prepared to address..." Part of being a teacher is learning humility, Suzanne. Part of humility is being able to admit when we are wrong. If we have publicly misled people, then we need to be able to publicly also admit that we have been wrong, and teach the students what is the correct way now that we ourselves have grown to new enlightenment. If these "students" do not wish to accept your newfound discoveries, then, although this is unfortunate, it is their exercise of their own free will to reject new truth. Many people have accepted what you have said to them because they have been seeking to distance themselves from taking personal responsibility for their own emotions.

All of the comments that Peter and Gabriel have made to them about their emotional condition is mostly truth, so there is no need to worry too much about what you are now going to present. Each person, at some time in their own life, needs to take personal responsibility for their own acceptance of information from others, rather than trying to blame others (including yourself, Peter or Gabriel) for their current belief systems. As long as those who have installed themselves as teachers (as you, Peter and Gabriel have) are willing to humbly admit their errors, and attempt to un-teach any error, then the responsibility for the acceptance falls on the listener. Your listeners have a certain emotional condition, and your attempting to avoid this emotional condition by hiding the truth from them will not help them in their own progression. It is far better to confront their emotional condition rather than to avoid it.

You said the following: "I am worried they will feel betrayed and let down." Well, you are possibly correct, but this is their own emotion, which they must take responsibility for. I know that at times it is difficult, because we can see our own involvement in a person no longer trusting us. But these are just emotions that we ourselves need to work through as well. There is always a penalty for teaching falsehood, even when we believed it ourselves to be truth. When people are presented with information, and they accept it as truth, they are only going to be upset when they find out it is error if they do not have love in their hearts. Love, even natural love, would not respond in anger just because we find out that something has been in error. If we or others become angry, then it is because love has yet to truly enter our heart. This applies to all the persons who have listened to you.

I have some Celestial friends who will be able to help you, and Peter and Gabriel through these emotions. Please ask Luther (the founder of the Lutheran religion), and Swedenborg (the founder of the Swedenborgian faith) to come and discuss with Peter and Gabriel all of the laws involved regarding being a teacher, and how they personally dealt with their own emotions of teaching falsehood when they were on the Earth. This will help Peter and Gabriel very much, and if they can write to you some of what they have learned it will also help you work through some of your own emotions too.

You said the following: "I am worried they will feel betrayed and let down. I don't want people taken out of their comfort zone because of any sudden shifting by me, or Peter & Gabriel. Especially thinking of all the friends I have who have total belief in their past lives being real, and who have received a messages, or perhaps many, from P&G and myself about their past lives. It's been a very integral part of the readings over the last 4 years, how the past intertwines and affects people today." People who wish to remain in their comfort zone will eventually stagnate in their spiritual progression. A comfort zone is only maintained by falsehood, or by a person wanting to remain in denial about their own emotion. Comfort zones are very damaging to us spirituality, and are always caused by emotional injuries that need to be released. Once a person releases their fears, they no longer need a comfort zone.

While it is sad that many do believe in their past lives being real, Peter and Gabriel will be able to explain (as they already have done with you) why they chose to refer to their emotions in the way they have previously. This will help each person who has previously listened to be able to take more personal responsibility for the release of their emotions, rather than waiting until they pass from this life to do so. Also, there is no harm in Peter and Gabriel, or yourself, candidly admitting when you were wrong, when a choice was made where TRUTH was sacrificed for expedience. Obviously, with Peter and Gabriel's newer understanding, they are beginning to see the necessity of always being truthful, even when it appears that the truth will be rejected, and that there is always a penalty at a later time if we choose to sacrifice truth for a reason that may seem logical at the time.

The truth is that the past does intertwine and affect people today, both in the sense of the emotions of people in our environment as we were growing up (from parents, teachers, siblings, religion, social, and spirits), and in the sense that our own emotions from our childhood does severely affect our ability to grow spiritually and come to accept love and truth. Many of the comments made by Peter and Gabriel about a person's emotional condition have been correct, it is just that the CAUSE of such a condition was not fully understood by Peter and Gabriel (nor yourself) at the time the comments were made. We are all allowed to be wrong, Suzanne, and our God does not punish us for being wrong, because being wrong is punishment itself (in that error leads us away from God's Love). If your listeners all believe you to be 100% correct, then they are in error, since it is impossible for anyone other than God to be 100% correct all the time.

You said the following: "The way P&G explained it to me, why they expressed so often about reincarnation and past lives, is that many people can't handle a feeling of having to take responsibility for something in their present life that is causing them great pain, and if they are able to distance themselves from it and think it's from an earlier life, they are more receptive to healing their imbalances and emotional blockages." While at first glance Peter and Gabriel's decision on this matter may seem logical, the method chosen also results in its own damage emotionally. God expects all of his children to take full personal responsibility for their own emotional condition, even though, in almost all cases, other people have played a part in creating those emotions. When people feel they "cannot handle it", this is the time when it is far better to help them to throw their emotional burden on God, in the sense of experiencing these emotional burdens and longing for God's help to work through them and clear them.

When we encourage them to do this, this is far more effective than causing them to distance themselves from their emotions. At the soul level (in the heart) emotions must be experienced before they can truly be released. If Peter and Gabriel look at the record of my own dealing with emotions (which is in my spirit body or aura), they can see that at times I have been overwhelmed by them, and this was necessary for the release of these emotional injuries. Anything we can do to assist others to do this, including giving encouragement, and especially teaching them about prayer (longing in the soul for God's Love), this will actually help them to better remove their emotional blockages.

You said the following: "Peter & Gabriel do seem very happy about what they are discovering now, and I felt their energy was so different with that message in response to you, the 2nd one. They really are very kind and loving spirits and I appreciate them being around very much. Last night I knew I could choose to banish them from my life, as I did with the Keepers of Time group a year ago. And as I thought of it, I felt P&G getting very sad and yet understanding why I might choose that." Peter and Gabriel are very happy with the new truth they are learning, and they are also very desirous of helping you through your own transition as well, since they are very aware that some of their own mistakes have resulted in your being in the position you currently feel you are in (being wary of telling others about the changes).

But the key thing to realize is that P&G want to work with you through this adjustment, and they would be extremely saddened if you chose to reject them now. You have such a big opportunity, because of the rapport you have with each other, to not only correct any previous wrongs, but also to grow rapidly together in your reception of Divine Love, and to teach others who have been previously attracted to you what you are learning. Although I will always support your decisions, Suzanne, I believe very strongly that keeping the current lines of communication open between yourself and P&G will help you both immensely during the coming months as you all make spiritual adjustments. Also, we need to learn to forgive others particularly when they have mistakenly presented error as truth, because their intentions are good, just as your own intentions have been good.

You said the following: "I'm still very unsure about channeling for others right now, with all that's come up recently. I turned down one request for a reading yesterday, in light of these issues, I thought it's not good to channel right now, when I have so much to resolve within me about my guidance team in spirit, and my own condition." Well, I do understand how you feel Suzanne, but, I can assure you that, with what P&G are now learning, and what you are also working through, your own spirit communication can only improve. At the moment, your biggest hurdle is your doubts and confusion, but, if you can allow yourself to remain with an open heart and mind, you will find that the messages P&G give you will have much more power than they ever have had before. The Divine Love has now entered them, and it is beginning Its process of transforming their souls, and their capacity for teaching you truth is growing faster and with more accuracy than ever before. Allow yourself to continue to be taught by them, and be honest with them about your own feelings.

You said the following: "On Easter my guides surprised me when I asked them to give me a message for all, and in turn they asked me to share it from my own self, in my words, with their inspiration, including Jesus and Mary. Did you read that one, AJ? I'm curious to know what you think of that message. What parts would you consider are erroneous in this?"

Yes, Suzanne, I did read that message, and for the most part it was quite accurate. There are some errors too, and I would be happy to go through the message and let you know what is not completely correct if you wish that. However, I believe the motive behind the message was beautiful, and I do not feel that the errors have done much damage to the people who would have read the message.

Suzanne, you can have as much time as you wish to consider matters, as I will never force you to do anything that you do not wish to do personally. You did ask me how you can help with the work ahead, and the suggestions I have made to you already are areas that will have a powerful effect on people and spirits. But I also understand you need to firstly work through your own issues emotionally, and this is a very important part of your own spiritual progress.

You said the following: "I haven't been writing to Kath for about a month, because my friend Isabella made me choose her or Kath. I didn't want to leave Kath out in the cold like I did, but I had to make up my mind which friend was better for me, and I chose Isabella." I was a little sad when I read this. Although I do not know all the details, I find it quite sad that a "friend" like Isabella would want you to choose between her and another friend. May I make the suggestion that a person who knows what love truly is would not do this, nor would they force you into making a decision that excludes another person. Isabella's desire is to manipulate your own free will, by using the threat of rejection, and this is very much in disharmony with love.

You said the following: "And as for me channeling any more... I am too concerned right now for having possibly led people down the wrong path... and far too uncertain as to what I've done that possibly harmed people." Well, I am sorry that you feel this way, because I believe that there is much good that can come from your continuing to channel Peter and Gabriel in particular. I know you are worried about harming people, but any harm you may have done can be corrected by your actions from now on. If people reject your attempts to correct your presentation of truth, then that is their own emotion at work, and they become personally responsible for that emotion. I know you are worried about having led people down the wrong path and possibly harming them, but my suggestion is to have a good cry about that, and to talk to God about that, and then to get back going with the good work you are doing.

Suzanne, we are all just learners, and learners are allowed to make mistakes. Just let yourself be humble, correct any mistakes you feel that were made, and then keep on progressing. You will make mistakes in the future too, but, in the end, the good you have done, and will do in the future, far outweighs the damage.

You said the following: "AJ, I don't know why you want to spend your very precious time on talking with me? I am just a mixed-up confused mess. Maybe we could wait and talk when I am more clear on things? I'd like to keep writing back and forth with you, when we each have time for that, in the meantime." My dear sister, you are a precious child of my Father, and my sister, and I love you. Is that not reason enough for me to talk to you? And you are just going through some emotions, and once you release these emotions, and let yourself pray to your heavenly Father about them, I am sure you will feel far less confused than you currently are. I will continue to write as my time permits. I am not afraid of other people's emotions. I would love to talk to you on the phone, but, I do not wish to create more problems for you than you are currently facing, so, I will wait until you are more comfortable with having spiritual discussions at home in front of your husband before I call you on the phone. If there is a time when your husband is at work that would be convenient to talk with you, then let me know, and I will see what the time zones are like and perhaps give you a call.

Anyway, Suzanne, I hope I have answered some more of your questions, and that you and Peter and Gabriel can consider more fully the things I have written in the attachment dealing with the Qualities of Truth. It will help you see some things a little more clearly I hope.

Bye for now my friend.

Love

AJ

