Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, children of
all the ages. Welcome to the Get Up and
Dad podcast. The show where we interview
interesting parents doing interesting
things. That could be anything from
super-busy tech dad to busy business
mommy blogger.
So today we have on the show the
hilarious Sean Hegarty. Who is Sean
Hegarty? He is well known for creating
his online personality Rodney, he has
his own podcast with his wife 'Hanging
with Hegartys' and most importantly
he's a dad. So Sean, thanks for joining us
on the show. I really appreciate you
coming in. Can you first start off by
telling us a how many kids you have
and how old are they? Iv'e actually got
this written down, give me a second so I've
got three boys. James, Charlie and
Tom and they're 15, 12 and 10. Awesome.
Yeah so they're a great bunch of lads. A great bunch of lads.
Yeah I've had three kids now for as
long as I can remember and haven't slept
in 15 years maybe more than that. Okay, I
know how that is. It never goes away.
It's intense. Never goes away ,even when they - see when they get older too,
you're like maybe I'll get part of my
life back and then just all of a sudden
it's like will you drop me off here
and then pick me up 20 minutes later and
then drop me over here and then pick me
up an hour later and then pick the other
one up here and then you have to drop
the other one off there and it's just
it's pandemonium all the time so yeah.
It's enjoyable though, it's rewarding
job isn't it, you can't even call the job
it's unfortunate you don't get paid
for it which I feel like you should but
I love it like. I'm sure you
feel the same yeah? Yeah I mean I'm
coming from a different perspective
because you know my kids are younger and
so I mean you obviously you're just
starting off I'm just starting off so I
mean see that whole dropping stuff off
or dropping kids off and stuff and all, I mean, I'm not there yet but I
mean there must be a difference
between them being more independent
now in terms of - Yeah, the only thing is
though most of the time all my kids want
to do is just play xbox and play the
PlayStation and watch YouTube and things like
that and they're they're getting to the
point where they're just really lazy.
They're like millennial children, is that
the right term? Yeah yeah. Yeah? and
they're just everything is just technology
everything's just how can I just move my
fingers and
nothing else so they're just lying, just
in a coma, just all day just pressing
buttons and I have to like constantly be
like we need to exercise, we're doing the
mournes, we're going camping, we're doing
this and see to be honest, for the first
maybe five or ten minutes of the journey
or getting them out of the door is the
hard bit but you know you just sort of
duct tape their mouths, you know, hand cuff
them, put them in the backseat and then
you take the duct tape off ten minutes later
and they're completely fine. You know
once they come round and they're a bit dazed and
stuff. Sometimes it needs to be done.
I mean, it's really interesting you said that I
can remember friend of ours, Dermie,
once there to me
I'm really gladI grew up on a time there
was no mobile phones. I mean what
do you think the difference has meant?
Like my kids probably wouldn't be using
that as much as what your kids would
because they're older. What do you think
would maybe be the differences between
us growing up and like kids growing up now with social media. I think kids are
more or less robbed of their
childhood now and their innocence you
know like I I feel like it's got to the
point now where when we were kids you
will ask your your parents a question, if
you were lucky enough to have parents, if you
ask them a question and they were like
oh this is the answer and you were like
okay dad, no problem, thanks for telling
me. Where as my your kid asks you
a question and you're like he's gonna
ask Alexa the exact same question in
thirty seconds and it's gonna be right to the point like and I'm just
gonna be sitting there just being like.
Or you could be wrong. I know yeah and
the kids now either just like Siri you
know what what's the answer to this
question so they're almost
like you lost a better respect for you
before they even got it, do you know what I mean, so in
order to sort of, sort of get that so I
think the harder or - the longer you can
keep them away from it, the more your
whole family will benefit from it but at
the same time kids are going into school
everyone has social media.
My son's 15, he's constantly on Instagram
and I'm like it's not real life.
It's a show real for people. 
It's showing you the best of everything.
It's not showing you there down
side even though it's got to the point now
where some influencers are
like here's all my flab, do you know,
trying to be real but at the same time
they're doing that because that's almost
like in at the minute but I would just
advise parents to just stay away from
social media, get to keep their kids away
from it and just give them a childhood
because they were just gonna end up just
on recliners. Yeah I mean it's very
interesting you said, I mean, taking kids
of the mournes because for me that's
partly what Get Up and Dad is kind
of about. It's getting up and going and
doing things but I mean I'm glued to social
media too and it's hard for me to say get
off that iPad. It's hard not to because I
mean they're gonna be growing up with
that and if they're - if they don't know
how to use it then they're gonna become
growing up with a disadvantage - so for
me it's kind of like finding the balance.
I know like I've members too like you know
in-laws and stuff and they do
struggle with modern technology and
social media and you can tell that it
sort of irritates them, you know, they
just can't figure it out and I'm just
waiting on the day where I get to the
point where my kids come with me and
they're all can you press play on this
Justin Bieber
3D animation thing for me and I'll just
be like where do you turn it on, you know,
one of those things but in the meantime
I'm just trying to stay on top of it.
Every week I'm like great what's number
one here because I need to know this you,
know number one the charts, I need to
know so my kids think I've still got it,
just that little bit. But there's gonna
get - there's gonna be a time where you're
just gonna be like I know nothing
anymore. Everything I know was like the
nineties. It's gonna be the shift of the technology and it's just gonna be - It's just gonna be over your overhead and
you just, you just won't care but even
like everything is starting to change
now. I heard somewhere that once you
get over 30 I think it is that you're
you stopped listening the modern music
and you know less and less of the modern
artists and you sort of have your time
there so it's weird the way our parents
were growing up and they had like Elvis and
you know, Johnny Cash and things like
that and then we had like your
Slipknot's and your two packs and
your big E's and your P diddies and puff
daddies and things they got so.
It's weird now you see all these people
like post Malone and stuff for kids and
you're like is this seriously your
role model? I know ours got shot every
weekend, do you know what I mean, but at the same time there's now like tattoos and green hair
and everywhere pierced. I know I kinda feel like
my
parents whenever I was growing up now. It's crazy.
So see when your kids
grow up, how you gonna tell them the
story of how you got to where you are
today and what you're doing? Because I
did like stand-up comedy's my bread and
butter so for me I wouldn't want my kids
to do what I'm doing because it's a
complete mind f right. It's really
really really really really stressful
like every day you're telling yourself
no you are funny, you know, just go and be
funny and stand up in front of maybe five
stag and hen parties and groups of mates.
Do you know when groups are mates are
together they're almost bulletproof.
There's always like the lead guy of the
group and he's the leader and the funny
guy and everyone looks at him if when
the next rounds coming and things like that
whereas when I was growing up ,it was just,
I was the shy one and I was out of the
way and stuff so for me doing stand-up
it was almost like, not an attention
thing, but it was like I need to prove my
worth. I was a middle child so it was
like oh the big brother you'll get
you'll get what he's getting when you're
at his age but you're never his age
because he's always a couple of years
older and then the young ones the baby
so it's like oh he needs all this here
so you know it's almost like away you go
and playing the middle of the road but
you get this sort certain point where
you're just like I need to prove myself
here you know I need some form of
acceptance or something and I kind of
like to make my kids feel, how would you say it like just, important and accepted
and anything goes, you know, and just sort
of bring them up in ways where I I
wasn't. It was almost like, you know, as
you said, Dermie, me and him were cousins,
myself and Dermie. Dermot McConaughey
who's a
one of Ireland's best spray painters,
graffiti artists and me and him would
talk regularly just about like our
upbringings and family and things like that.
We came from a family where we had,
like, our mum's were sisters and we had
14 aunties and uncles on one side
and then on my dad's side I had 16 so I'd
like thirty aunties and uncles before
any of them married, before any of them
had kids, before any of them had grandkids.
So I have cousins that I get facebook
requests I have people in the I've never
met before and their surname is Hegarty
and I'm like are you adding me because you
just we have the same surname or are our
parents siblings, do you know what I mean? So I feel
like I'm getting miles away from the
question here. I'll do that but just cut
my mic or whatever whenever you want but
yeah so, me and Dermie would chat
regularly just about upbringings and
stuff and you know when our parents were
kids, I feel like they were sort of
conveyer belted along. You know it was
like nobody had them that much money.
It's not like nowadays where you can live
outside your means with credit cards and
things like that and they're just like they
were just sort of fed and as long as you
had what you needed away you go you
know. We have 13 or 15 more that we need
the cater for here and I feel like our
parents were sort of not given as much
as they probably should have got or as
much as kids of today got. So I feel
like as that sort of gets closer and
closer now to the modern day,
it's getting better, parenting's getting
better, people know what to do.
People want to give their kids
everything that they didn't have so
with my kids I want to tell them the
world's their oyster and I do tell them
every day. I'm like you know don't get me
wrong like it's you can't do anything
easily. Everything comes at a cost, you
have sacrifices. Like I've been
married before as well. I have
three boys to my first marriage and
that sort of went to the point where it
was just like there was no understanding
there. There was no encouragement or you
know things like that there was no
support. It was every - I just, I feel like
I needed to be with someone who was in
that field.
And then I met my my wife now Diona,
who's an actress and when we got
together it was just like this is it.
This is - we've just clicked here like two
floor tiles, you know, together. We
genuinely feel like we just belong
together now because of everything
that comes with each other. Although we
try and encourage the boys to follow
their dreams and do what they want to do,
we also want them to sort of do
University. Like I never got through
university, you know, I dropped out of
school after fifth year and I kind of
want them to just sort of work hard and
try and teach them how to work hard and
we've got to the point now where my 15
year old son, like, my dad
last week got him to cut his grass but
he has a drive-on lawnmower and it's
quite a it's not a big lawn. It's about
the size of this room and they took him
maybe four laps and my dad was all
there's a fiver and I was like we can't
do that anymore
he's trying to get a job but he's not
actually looking for a job. He's like
I've searched online and I'm like
you're 15 you're not gonna get a job
online, you have to go and ask a few
places work at a farm, whatever you need
to do but all he's been used to is just
I'll do this ten minute job and my dad
give me a fiver for cleaning the car or for
washing the car or for cutting the grass out
the back but no we've got to the point
where it's like right being 15 the pay
is like 4.37 an hour 4.73 an hour. So
that's what we're going to do from now
on. If it takes you 15 minutes to cut the
grass, you'll get paid one pound whatever it
is.
So I'm just trying to take something
like hard work and just try - be realistic but still go for what you want.
Like my son's like I want to be a
professional footballer. I'm like we've
had a gym membership for you for a year and
a half you've been four times do I mean.
Yeah I know it's it's trying to manage -
You want to encourage them - But their expectations.
You want reality too. They watch a lot of like
YouTube vloggers and stuff. People
playing Call of Duty and Minecraft and
Fortnite and things like that and which
Fortnite is the devil. Keep your kids
away from Fortnite. They see that
they're and they're like but these guys
all live in mansions and they're making
all these videos where they're filling
their rooms full of softballs and you
know things I got in here like that's
the, that's the naught point naught naught
naught
one percent vloggers that you actually -
that get to experience that life,
everybody else is struggling every
single day, everybody's working hard and
never gets seen you know. I know, I mean
like for me, from my perspective on that
case is you don't actually see the
amount of hard work that goes into those
things as well in terms of vloggers and
what people are actually doing online.
For like for me I mean I watch all
the behind the scenes with the vloggers
and I know, like I do video as well,
so I know how much hard work it is and
how much time and prep the ticks and how
much hard work it actually gets to the
point where that's all they need to do.
Big time. Like I did the para video last
year in the Ulster Hall. It was a
two-day event and it's on this August as
well, it's brilliant. You were there
last year? Yeah yeah. And I was hosting
the two-day event and it was all these
like vloggers and you know content
creators from around the world all just
ascending into Belfast and it was
fascinating to just see how they work
and how they go about their day but
every single one of them just couldn't
switch off. The whole time they were there they were vlogging, they were getting
selfies with people they were just - it
was this whole different world where
they just had a submerse, submerge
themselves into that world and that's
the world that you probably want when
you're starting put but is that like,
does it reap the benefit? Do you know, do you reap the  benefits from having that and never switching off like
I don't switch off as a comedian because
I'm constantly breaking down
conversations and because I do short
one-liner jokes, a lot of my stuff's
wordplay and puns and things like that
so I'm trying to always break down
conversation but I like to think that I
can switch off every night again to hear
as a feel like those lads can't. You know
they're about to fart in the bath or
press record and holding the screen up, do you know what I mean? It's like relax man, have a break. It can get intense
and I don't think it's just on in
that kinda area. I think people who are
completely submerged and those types of
work, specially creative industries.
First of all they need to be because a
you need to be constantly keeping up to
date, staying with what's relevant.
I mean even keeping the dates like things
like Oh Mother's Day is coming up for
you you're probably thinking hey I need
get some joke trolley yeah I'm thinking
right who needs mother day material for
promotional stuff so we can start, do you know what I mean. It's constantly trying
to think and I can see the pressures in
that and again what everybody else is
seeing what our kids are seeing is that
looks like they just hit record for a
few minutes and uploaded when it wasn't correct. Yeah like for making comedy videos
and stuff to you like I've made ten
seconds snapchat videos that have had
near a million views and then I've spent
maybe four days filming and editing a
music video that's maybe got somewhere
between five and twenty or thirty
thousand views and you just I don't know
if you ever get that balance or you
figure out the correct way to do stuff.
It's just - it's pop culture, it's what's
hot right now, what hits that spot at
that exact time and sometimes you can
get something out that's just literally has took you twenty seconds where you've
thought of something, you've got your
snapchat filter right, and you've pressed
record and you've said - you've filmed
yourself saying it and it just
skyrockets and it goes viral for you but
then there's times as well where like
that maybe happens once every six
months or once every year and the rest
of time you're making stuff and like
I've got to the point now where I make
videos and after ten minutes if it's not
them well I just delete it and just
pretend it never happened you know,
but there's times I've thought as well
I'm just gonna upload this joke to
Twitter but I'll leave it for maybe two
or three hours and just forget about it
and then I come back and it hasn't done
that well and I'm like I'm insisting on
leaving it and then a celebrity or
someone retweets it and it just
skyrockets then and you're like. I
sometimes, see in terms of content,
sometimes it's just really hard to pick
up on what people will want to hear or want to see. You know something I've also found
difficult - what are people gonna find
interesting? For me and this
is a best thing in the world but the audience is maybe just not paying attention.Yeah but I find as well like
with podcast and stuff too, it's just not
enough to have one thing, you know, I feel
like everything you need is like you know,
there's maybe two female comedians but
they talk about all their sexual
partners , do you know what I mean, so it's not enough just two female comedians. You need something
else or two male comedians you can't
just talk about comedy all day you have
to have this other sort of element to it,
it's like they're getting so so
neashed too because if the podcast market is just
growing every single day that it's so
hard to sell yourself now on just one
thing like if you're an expert in this
one thing it's almost not enough now. It's
like Joe Rogan you know it's like he's
brilliant at so much but he needs
other people I think to be guests. I think
if he did a podcast on his own would it be as
good, would it be, do you know it's almost
that sort of - Because when you bring
another person on what happens is you
almost have that agree with them which
backs up what his opinion is or there's the
disagree which will encourage debate
and will make other people think and which
works both ways yeah and in that case, for me
anyway. So kind of went off on one in
terms of content and stuff. What
would you say is your favourite Get Up
and Dad thing to do with the kids - you
know what's the thing where you go you
know what, it's time to just stuff everything and let's go. I think being a comedian, I find
myself being really creative. Not always
like in a funny way or a good way but I
just I always have to be creating
something and I try and - that rubs
off on my kids every now and again as
well like last summer I wasn't going
to the Edinburgh Fringe and I was like I
want to do something worthwhile and
something creative because I'm not going
over there because every time I turn on
Twitter it's gonna be all these
comedians that I follow going come and
say my show tonight and I'm like you
know FOMO - fear of missing out. Why am
I not there and last summer I was like
right I'm not going. I started watching
loads of like survivalist videos a lot
of sort of people light in the
wilderness and I started watching this guy, totally awesome outdoors.
TA Outdoors. A guy called Mike in England
and he built his own pallet wood cabin
and I was like do you know what, I'm like for
months I was like I wonder should I post
online and like post on Facebook and see
if somebody can sort me out with pallets.
I bit the bullet one day and I was like
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go for it
like and now's the time to do it. I've got a
couple of weeks free where I'm not doing
much. I posted on Facebook, within an hour my mate had sourced me with like as many pallets I
wanted. Got my dad in with his trailer,
went and picked a load up, got dropped back at
the house, went to screw fix and bought
like a saw and a few different wee bits
and pieces because I had nothing. I'd
know tool box or anything and two
weeks later I had my own pallet wood
cabin that I have in the corner
of my garden now and it's amazing.
It's got everything I've ever
wanted in it and it's like, it's like
being out in the wilderness but it's
almost got a few home amenities as well
and I got my kids involved at the
start of that. I was like let's do
something together do you know he was
making it with his dad, the guy that was
watching the YouTube tutorials and I was
like I want that one my kids, you know, I want
to give them something different. So we
started building this cabin, after an
hour they each drop off you know just
can't be bothered interest. Yeah, yeah. So
two weeks later I'm standing there
sweating in the middle of it and middle
of August just building this cabin on my
own and my kids are like dad don't play
football I'm like I'm in this cabin that
we all started and I'm finishing on my
own. So I like to do things like that. Last
week we bought like a hut, I have like a
big cut on my thumb. Myself  and my son, we've a
bit of a forest at the back of our house
and I was like act - like chopping
down wood with an axe and I just chopped
it and it just went straight into my thumb
and it's still quite sore and stuff but
myself and my son we went and gathered loads
are like bendy sticks and we were gonna
start making almost like a hut. It's like
a kinda like an igloo shape but once you
get the outside structure you just
cover it in industrial thing film the
whole way up okay that makes it
completely like waterproof and stuff and
I started building that for my son and
you know for if he wants to bring his
mates round if it's raining, if he
wants to have his lunch outside and
stuff he can sit in that and whatever and
we went over to Home Base and it was like
twenty quid for industrial cling film and I
was like that's just buy the stuff and
and in Pound Stretcher - went in and bought
like three rolls of that, brought it home,
wound it round and it just started ripping,
started tearing, the wind was blowing it
away
and now we just have like this structure
outside our house and my kids are like
no one's gonna play in that, do you know what I mean, but we just try and do things all the time. I
try and sort of - I've always liked the
outdoor. We were always raised on camping
and doing like walks and stuff and it is
good for your mind. It's very healthy,
especially mental health and people
comparing themselves to everybody else
you know nowadays. It's good to just
sort of get out in the open, get some
fresh air, listen to the birds
you know. Just build a wee fort, build a
wee hut, have super noodles out of a can
or whatever, you know out of a
flask. Just get out and experience like, our
country is phenomenal. It's only a
couple years ago I was like let's start
going to all these little sort of nooks
and crannies around the country and the
places we've seen in the places we've
been to like just at the edge of the
coast and stuff and the beaches and the
walks. It's an amazing country,
just people so miserable the whole time
do you know what I mean? Yeah I know I mean people don't realise what's on their doorstep like we
have locally so much for my age group of
kids in terms of parks
and nature reserves and stuff and there's so much there to get out
and actually do and it's interesting you said there
in terms of going out and enjoying
the forest and stuff. I've started following a
guy called Outdoor NI and what he does you know
he just - he's just kind of started up and
he's kind of trying to promote what
happens in other countries is doctors
are now prescribing physical activities to
tackle mental health and one of the
things that nature walks because getting
back in nature walks is to kinda - I
don't know the ins and outs I'm not a
professionalist but it's helping with
mental health because you're getting
back to nature and you're getting away
from all of the stuff and going back to
kind of that primal kind of instincts
and it's just interesting that you say the same thing there.
Big time. There's a place as well I think it's in Tandragee.
Clare Glen, have you ever
heard of it? Yeah. Lovely big river runs
through it you know, nice sort of pathway
alongside it. There's like a caravan site
up there too and I'd take my family up there every now and again and
it's lovely. You've Gosford Forest Park,
you've Castlewellen,  you've Tullymore
forest, you have you know, you've the - what do
you call the place for the trees
there's like Lord of the Rings. Not Lord of the Rings -
okay just dark hedges you have to know
with you if the north coast sea of white
rocks baits you have just the you still
go on and on and on on and people just
need to get I didn't use it it's amazing
like we won't be seeing we were growing
up to my dad right we had like a back
field I'd say to our house and it was
just like his but like people had
through their scrub rubbish and let bomb
fires and it was just overgrown and
stuff my dad got the title dine to cut
the grass and then went our local park
and asked the park ranger figured borrow
his white marker for the football
pitches I might add mark tied a football
pitch himself and then he sourced
scaffolding bars got them welded and
stuff
the main hosts got fishing that there'd
be a net and for you know what we had
our own makeshift like full football
pitch like it was class and my dad
organized like football tournaments for
people around these dates live near us
and got medals and trophies and
everything got player the tournament
awards and things I guess and just made
like this whole same by himself and
neither is like a 4G Moga pitch on it
that just the kind of pot iron and
there's basketball you can play a tennis
you can play abutment and volleyball you
can play football on it you know when
there's all these things or night
cropping up and you go to a Gavin lakes
and you have the BMX trail you have the
BMX sort of we circuit that you can do
as well and it
I feel like my like back and when we
were growing up you had very little but
you made the most of what you had
whereas nowadays kids just have
everything on their doorstep and but
they're just more interested in playing
games nice I know you know it's it's sad
I know I know I'm Ian from me get up and
daughter trying to get up I'm going
through stuff hmm I mean I mean I'm all
up for social media I'm all over games
and all I'm not
they noted but and for me it's all this
yeah it's almost like a mental health
thing as well because if I I want to
teach my kids you need to go out and do
stuff you can't sit all day and ice you
need to go out and actively be active
exercise socialize and do this or it
it's gonna affect mental health you know
horse yeah like him I talked earlier by
fortnight mmm game and apparently it was
made to work alongside like a child sort
of attention span and I would get the
men where like the games or to set time
specifically so that a child would be
like that's not long if I have to play
it this little bit more and then they
start again and the game then is this
extra amount of time that they like
fully have to like focus on and I let my
kids play at the start because you know
everyone that's gonna start playing it
my kids were like can we get four
tonight can we play it and I was like
yeah whatever it you know as long as you
play it like an art at a time whatever
it may be and before long my kids were
like I was like right you have to come
off at 9:00 they're like no no at the
end of this game and you're like no you
have to turn it off like we're all
sitting at the dinner table waiting on
you to commend eight and they're like no
no and then by the time they come off it
they're wired they're aggressive and
they're you know they're they're really
just balls on offered to the extent
where it's detrimental and then lolly
sort of studies and stuff came out about
the game and I bought it was for kids
and this girl in England was unlike the
front page of a newspaper where she her
mum and dad would tuck her in goodnight
whatever closed the door she would get
up and put fortnight on and she was like
soiling herself in bed and she was like
falling asleep in school the next day
and she's like smelt and it's just so
bad for it got to the point then where I
think the parents I actually took
fortnight to court or but you know we
had to get her into rehab and stuff the
over comment and it's just it's all
about limitation so I said my kids I'm
like Joe the the devices don't go on and
tell like 8 o'clock at night at least
and Joe they can Wayne died in Furnari
they can play stuff or watch stuff
before bed but
it's so hard because even my son like
the 15 year old I said him I'm like go
and meet your mate single the park güell
play football ku have a big gamer rinder
snow there's some money go to the
shopping center or go to dick go up the
time we are mates and have a bit of fun
and he's like no no one's gone it--and
that makes you water all your mates day
in and he says they're just setting the
bait and playing their Xboxes or
whatever I know I'm too certain so
horrible that scares me
you know and for me it's just trying to
teach them there's other things right
there you know
but that's it but there's like I know
you guys create like all this amazing
content online PNL and I've seen like
the videos that you guys produce and it
makes you want to go to all these events
because they're so like they're so well
produced but they're the videos make
them look amazing - you and the drone
footage and everything that you do and
it's just trying to get people to see
that and actually go and do it
I mean yeah they're two different things
it's just it's it's yeah it's so hard I
I don't envy kids nowadays growing up I
really don't I know I know so from your
own perspective what do you highly
understand right now what kind of things
is kind of picking your boxes well last
night myself and my wife I told you
before we started we bought a caravan
right so this was just like it was a few
hundred quid online and we were like
let's like we we sort of have an
interest and interior design Perseid you
know she would be more into the paintin
side of things and the colour schemes
and things I got whereas I'd be more
interested in like I've been watching a
lot of tiny home that he was doing if
you've seen any on YouTube but there are
millions of them and it's this whole
sort of movement that's been started the
past few years where people are just
dying sighs and they give millionaires
and you people who have all the money
they need and they have the high-flying
job and they just exchange it and cut
their life right down under this sort of
whether it's a shipping container
whether it's a caravan whether it's
something else and I'm not saying we're
going to do that but we have an interest
in just that line of you know leaven and
stuff and
especially because the two of us are on
the road so much with her being an
actress and a comedian and a voice-over
artist and maybe an a comedian presenter
host but double in act and things they
got we're always here there and
everywhere and we do like festivals and
stuff together and it would just be nice
to sort of live somewhere that's just
mantle domain it's not a heist like just
I have never been someone in my entire
life I pride myself on just never follow
on a crowd like I've never done the ice
bucket challenge I've never done you
know all the things that that that go
along the lines of that and I was sort
of think of myself as a bit differently
and like I don't want to always do this
thing just because everyone else is
doing it and one of those things is
living in a high sand pan this huge
mortgage and paying for your car and
paying for all these things that you
never get to actually experience because
you're away doing this big job that's
stressful and involves you'd actually
never experience your nice things
because you're away trying to earn the
money to pay for them all dude I mean so
it's like if you dine says all that and
think about what you actually need it's
not that much domain it's really not
like I was talking about Joe Rogan as
well he had Dan Bilzerian on one time
who's like this big multi-millionaire
Instagram posts with bikini women
hanging off his arm wine and and dinin
and the the fanciest of restaurants and
he said like he's got to the point where
he loves the high life it's so extremely
that he can't find happiness anymore he
can't get that buzz that he used to find
on gone to a nice restaurant or stand in
an amazing hotel or go onto a nice
holiday destination because he lives our
life 24/7
he has chefs that come in and cook for
him and he has almost a pack of whatever
girl he wants at that time and you're
like what people creative that lifestyle
but what are they actually craving
domain like well yeah like it's once you
find that how do you make yourself happy
once you get accustomed that lifestyle
it's almost like you kind of have to
keep building on sometimes
my caste like growing up me sorry that
the co-author like we didn't really have
much growing up but my parents still
tried to give us everything that we ever
kind of wanted and you get to the point
where it's your birth then you get like
a football shirt or something and you're
buzzing off it for weeks and you're
wearing and you think you're the player
with the name on the back and things I
got whereas my you give kids and it's
like all right let's go on pi fuck off
today and then we'll go to trampoline
and the next day and then we'll go on to
this and then it comes to the birthday
and they're like are we seriously just
trampoline and again we trampling the
months ago do you know it's like there's
no enjoyment anymore kids just get
everything three of them they have
everything then it's available and the
owners reading a book in the minute darn
darn Brian called hoppy and he just sort
of explores what actually makes people
happy and one of the bets that she made
me read one in one of the chapters was
that if you actually woke up one day and
I was like post-apocalyptic and you were
the only person on earth like you're not
gonna go on try and find that most
expensive car so you can drive it
because you only drive in it because you
know it's the most expensive car and you
want to short off the people and you
want people to judge you based on that
and it's like if you were alone in the
world like what kind of things would you
actually go on say kite like if humans
weren't around anymore because most
things we do are just the police other
humans are just we're just doing them
because they're doing them gentlemen so
it makes you kind of think like what
would you actually do if you were if you
weren't trying to people please all the
time yeah I mean sometimes you people
get caught up so much yeah in trans it's
just median it's everything that comes
with it that that's that's why a second
I don't take a break I just got me a
normal thought water like I went to get
some before went to the show unless you
were meant to bring what you forgot and
I'm trying to I guess on my own you want
to try and dine alone one go what you
want see how far we can go do you know
what I'll end up there and Joey from
France and movies did we drink there
what a fail except it really slowly and
drank the whole thing it took me like 20
minutes and you just film the whole
thing yeah let's go for that I'm just
made it up yeah
not really maybe towards the end okay
we'll try it at the end yeah so how
things were you let's gonna be for a
while your kids of the gate yeah all
good - girls - boys - boys boys one or
the other so holidays and they have but
yep all's good with me and just working
away and doing the whole dad thing enjoy
the enjoy being a dad
why love it like yeah again for me
doesn't think it's what you want pay it
don't you
well I always want paid you know I know
it was also something back you know it I
just trying to exploit the kids as much
as I can you know and I think no no no
for me I always try I always worry about
and this is a big thing spent too much
time work mmm I'm trying to get home and
do stuff and that's what you said
there's too much available for kids no I
I'm kind of going I'm a trying to like
you're right I mean it's almost better
that you don't have as much so then
whenever you actually have stuff you
appreciate it more yeah
yeah and then I kind of worry what wears
up balance I mean where do you find the
balance of that's good white and do
stuff today
that's do stuff tomorrow let's do stuff
the next day and we're at the point are
we spoiling I mean do do we give them to
him what sometimes a lot of parents
judging on how much they spend on their
children yeah instead of just how much
time they spend with them like I I would
set my kids and I feel like I'm blowin
smoke up my chairs if I'm trying to make
it that I'm this world life change in
dad and I'm definitely not like but I'm
I I honestly do try my best and I put my
kids first in their reefs are constants
and like we we got we were over in
England last wake on holidays and we
brought our car over with us so we're on
like the Adaro ferry and we I just we
just got pieces of paper right and stuck
them together and we were like let's
just create our own board game we had a
little dice from another game of Ludo or
whatever it was you're like let's just
create our own board game and we trigger
all the strips and stuff and Dre write
whatever way we want it and you know we
put like things like maybe you know
you've been caught by Michael Jackson go
back ten spaces steal things I got and
we just had this like really fun game
and then when it was finished we were
like right what can we do next like
rather than sitting and doing all this
Monday that like kids were sitting on
tablets and the parents were just on
their phones it was like let's think I
said the box here and do we think sounds
like right let's do a quiz let's do you
know ten questions each a like write
down two questions on support two
questions on geography two on music and
film to you on general general knowledge
things got to you on science in the
world and we all created these ten
questions and then we passed the
question sheets rain and we all answer
each other's questions and then we went
right in one by one and it sounds like
the Waltons here but we had a great time
doing it you know and I think it's all
about just trying to be creative and
especially to me as well I always feel
like I have to create something I don't
want to buy him a monopoly when I can
create something myself at home that
yeah provides a lot more enjoyment my
kids you know when it's just like I my
kids said to me all the time they're
like dad did you come out and play
football with us and I'm like 35 and is
there another dad in the street that
you've ever seen in your life never mind
here's Kim might and played football
with kids all afternoon you know and all
the way play football and joy and stuff
that's lucky
at times as well I think kids need the
couple of hours a day a plan with kids
their own age and socializing and you
know whether they get into trouble or
whatever I'm like I said in my kids I'm
like go on come on smash a window just
go on do something that just isn't set
down the front step go on I'm not
allowed to play my games night mm-hmm go
on do the things that we did when we
were young
get in there better trouble - no yeah
and I'll pretend I'm annoyed until the
policeman goes now I'll be all like no
but yeah it's it's just about trying to
find that balance trying to get them to
play with people they're only agency
ladies and and you know yeah having that
special time with them as well like
because I know a lot of people just
throw money at their kids and it's like
it's all about social media and I'm
gonna upload photos and go oh they ID
with mommy
you know spoiled rotten and you're like
but you're probably on your phone all
afternoon
do you know you're probably drive down
with a radio on full-blast and you're
listening to the radio on their on their
device and talks to each other it's like
just communicate and teach them
something let them teach you something
do things a bit differently just go back
to basics because it's I know I exactly
that sometimes it's just trying to
create what's on their imagination as
well like my son with minute he is just
mod and two cardboard
I just wants to make everything look
hard for it
we need a daddy who we make a bookshelf
today can we get some cardboard making
for shelf for the books that we got from
the library and like yep yep okay let's
go right yeah and then it's like can we
make a vending machine
he's obviously watching something on
YouTube he's getting these ideas I'm
coming back there soon can we make that
soon of me but I love the fact that for
me that's a positive from social media
to it because it's like he saw this on
these you know what I want to be
creative and I want to do something a
wee bit more instead of actually just
sitting I'm consuming it you know and
sticky white and do it no it said if I
let him he probably would consume it all
day for the easiest but it all go any
different they don't know any different
year cuz that's recommended control that
exactly so but it's so good to kind of
get him that he's doing that and he's
taken do JD isn't going you know what
I'm gonna be creative myself I want to
do this I want to do that he's
tie my son mostly watch like arts and
crafts videos and he got to the point
where he was watching these videos and
the things that were made with glue guns
and he it was like your mobile phone
covers and stuff and he was like ah can
we get a gun so we got my glue gun for
Christmas well Santa did and sat down
Boxing Day and I was like right let's do
all the things you wanted to make on
YouTube you know let's let's make them
together or whatever and we got the
cling film it--and covered a mobile
phone and then he started like squirting
the glue gone around the back of the
phone to create this phone cover and
it's meant to stack and you you color it
all in or whatever and then it's proper
like we phone Culver but it's just stops
it from break and if it falls in the
ground
and 20 months later it was every word
stuck to the page stopped his hand you
know his big lines I've had like melted
cheese and got that point where he just
was like that was that it wasn't high it
was on TV
so he's just never went back to it since
then we've used it to like fix shelves
and you know bits of cupboards and
things I got and we saw it almost use at
night just like it's a household doing
thing rather than this thing that we
bought him because he had this interest
on it yeah but I mean it's still good to
kind of for me even things like that
were you takes on a new experiment well
it yeah and it's like yeah and there's
things like YouTube as definitely like I
said would watch YouTube night over any
sort of TV short TV channel because
there's just like I heard our toilet
broke goodbye two months ago and I was
like I'm not gonna phone someone I'm
gonna try and get this fixed myself
turned idols that needed was like a Wii
washer and I went and sourced the washer
and infects it and there was like four
things I got it's phenomenal do you know
what God said I mean my kids now but
like Greg what can we do let's let's do
something together here and 20 months
later you're trying to make an elephant
out of a title join me it's like we
things I gotta stuff that like that you
would maybe have to get a book out of
the library yeah and even then you might
not find something I got it you know
it's just it is literally the worldwide
web there's everyone at your fingertips
exactly so I mean you've been doing what
you've been doing for the last 10 to 15
years okay unfortunately yep see so I
mean that's you know creating this
online personality stand-up comedy I
mean it's tough for me it looks tough
jumping between all of those things and
I mean you have to go out and get to
work yourself I mean what have you found
most difficult especially with how to
become a dad within that time as we are
yeah we'll see gird us it's bad I have
my kids like half the week so I have
them you know like three nights one week
four nights the other weekend they're at
their moms the other times we both have
them evenly and although it's great
having that time to yourself it so that
means you can fully invest when
the voice of the urge you know when the
boys come home to me then I can maybe
spend more time with them but then I
spend so much time with them that I gets
that point that when they go to their
moms basta and I needed air to oft you
know where I'm just doing nothing then
I've like one day where I can like right
you need to get some work done you come
all your work your work quick in the one
day and then the next day of the boys
are back and you're like full palette
agains you'll play football or go on the
Patriot and whatever you do and it's
hard juggling it all especially being a
comedian to like like as far as like
with anyone you're not always at your
happiest every single day Jermaine
no one is that's it's almost impossible
to be like that so you have your dying
days and stuff and maybe you're just not
feeling great but you have to go and
make all these people laugh and
entertain that you're happy and funny
and stuff and sometimes that can be
quite hard too but I think a lot of
times I need to just think back to 10
years ago when I was maybe five years
ago when I first started doing stand-up
and thinking like you know I heard once
within the first few months that if you
get a good 20 minutes you can tour the
whole world about 20 minutes and now I
have maybe three or four hours material
may be more behind me and I'm like
sometimes you need to just take a step
back and just appreciate what you've
done and how far you've came and you
know social media is the same like
although I despise that I know that
there's a market there that that's an
audience for me to get people to come to
my live shows and come to invest and
merchandise or whatever I'm doing are
sailing but it's it they all have their
pros and cons every single part of it
you know there's there's some class pets
we get like I it's you know not many
people can say they were getting on my
Peter Andre last weekend Jona mean when
we were the dál Riata festival so Tomic
heavenly 17 is just you name it I was on
the same Bell ISM saying that I was in a
shed at the back at 15 hours earlier
Jermaine but you still you're on the
same poster Jermaine yeah but it's yeah
it definitely has its ups and downs like
like I get to bring my wife a lot of
times if she's quiet if she doesn't have
much work on she gets to come with me
and you know we get like sorta
VAP treatment a lot of the time and you
know as a lot of gigs are well paid to
but people think that you're just
gigging five times a day seven days a
week and you're a millionaire whereas
that's not the case it's impossible to
do over here you know you could go maybe
three weeks we have nothing you've no
gigs and you're sitting at home going
right what do I do here do I sit down
and write a couple of jokes do I make a
video do I do a Facebook post though I I
don't know put together a bit of a
charade you know it's just it's like
just you don't know what to do then you
have a good you think of a good joke and
you're like is this a video is that a
meme is that a you know is it just a
worded tweet and there's just
everything's just juggling everything
trial and error every single day but at
the same time I could be doing a job
that I don't want to do mm-hmm you know
a guy I started working when I was like
eleven years old I worked in a farm for
a pint an hour and then I chopped stacks
in a factory then I assembled bikes at a
toy shop then I worked I was like a
watersports instructor then I worked in
a few shops then I worked in a like a
department store I'm under grind doing
all deliveries and stuff then I worked
in a furniture stores and I worked
dental erase like I I've worked as a
cleaner I feel like every time I say a
job another job I can think of comes to
my head like I've done everything and
although I wouldn't change what I'm
doing I for the world it's still a lot
of sacrifices came with it gonna mean a
lot of time and effort and blood sweat
and tears literally have gone in the
even to get into where I am now and I'm
still nowhere near where I want to be ja
mein I mean that's like yeah it does
take a lot of Agra face to do what you
want okay it really does like and you
know financially as well there's it's
you know just there's so much that
people don't say behind the scenes where
you're you're sacrificing
like I like myself my wife Dion as well
like spoke about this recently were like
we don't we're not part of a community
we don't have this neighborhood of
friends and family around us we don't
you know we we have very few friends
between us we don't go out much we don't
go to bars and clubs and we don't make
me a single for weekends away it you
know we had have my kids and we have our
time together and then we do our work
and stuff and that's as far as it goes
with us it's very simplistic it's very
rewarding at times but at the same time
- it's it can be lonely he could be
sending the house for a wake on your own
and you just don't leave the door I mean
sometimes you you're like I could go and
get something in the shop but what if
someone goes all right Rodney let's get
a photo with us or let's do this or it's
just sometimes you're and then you
overthink things you see people star not
here once or twice and you're like you
know do they know me from something you
know do they like what I'm doing did I
hit what I'm doing they're taking a
sneaky photo of me behind my back you
know it's like all these things that
we're you're just like you over thank
everyone yeah and I'm just not leaving
the house every day you know and that's
it's it's stressful like but at the same
time it comes with the territory domain
like niggas want to be famous we just
want to have job satisfaction and you
know be able to be good role models for
kids and our families and nieces and
nephews and things I got but it
definitely comes with a price like it
definitely does yeah
unlike obviously you think the
sacrifices are worth it because you're
still doing it or does it does it does
it get difficult sometimes or yeah it
definitely does get difficult like a lot
of times we sort of stop ourselves and
you were like you know well I got the
Ireland's Got Talent and you know I want
Ireland's funniest joke and you know
things like up but then there's the days
where you don't have any work on and you
can't think of a joke and
you're beating yourself up lens you know
so it's just trying to find that balance
and yeah yeah so I think that's why you
like when we said about buying a caravan
and stuff and we're gonna like sort of
do it up and renovate and stuff stuff
ourselves I think that's sort of a thing
that can give us that sort of healthy
still being creative but in a completely
different form you know so we're gonna
we can do that on our downtime rather
than sitting in the house beating
ourselves up or making a video that's no
one's ever gonna say because you don't
have the confidence maybe I'm not there
to potted it-- you know things I got
yeah I know I mean like for me recently
sometimes it feels like I'm just doing
like I I do film production as you know
so I mean I'm making films all the time
so sometimes I'm working and literally I
just can go and back-to-back it's
literally one job next up next up next
job and you don't really see what you're
doing but we did it she will know
recently and came in and party had just
knocked the right and it was everything
we've done the last six months
and for me sometimes you just need to
sit down and reflect and go you know
what this is everything that we have
done and you know it was worth it it was
good and it's something it's almost
difficult to you because you feel like
yeah when you look back now you want I
did do that I did enjoy it but at the
time and maybe didn't feel as good as
what it was but I've actually was really
good it's almost like a big brother
isn't it it's like when you have the
arguments and the fights and the Drunken
you know you fall and hurt yourself and
things I got and then when you're coming
to leave the house they show you your
best bits and you're like yeah I usually
had the most amazing time for me
everyone needs to almost do that you
need to sit down and go right what did I
do the last six months you know what
that was was worth it 100% yeah because
we we would be like that as well we're
like sometimes you just have to take a
step back and go well actually I've
achieved all these things that I never
thought I would be able to do you know
and sometimes you just have to not even
put yourself in the back but just be
grateful the worrior and you know
there's things that maybe like God
didn't get that job or whatever but good
things come from not to you know because
maybe like he weren't ready and stuffed
you know
maybe things happen for a reason the
times were try and give you an example
like probably even I think I auditioned
for Britain's Got Talent about four or
five years ago and I was nowhere near
ready it was a video audition no it was
I went to castle court one day and I was
invited along like I I applied and they
were like you know could you please come
along I think I sent a video on the
record you come along and you know
auditioned an editor or producer or
something I went along and as I got like
up the escalator it was in like this
empty shop and it was just a queue like
the hallway in the shopping centre of
like we girls and people practicing
dance moves and you know fella with a
puppet and stuff and I was like straight
back down the elevator straight back in
the car and home again and I just knew
that I wasn't ready but then when I went
to the Ireland's Got Talent that was
like know what I I'm ready night you
know it's like maybe it just wasn't my
time back then they go and sort of
pursue that yeah but now I feel like I'm
fully ready and I've everything to offer
but then when I went to doing the live
semi-final on TV I did that completely
wrong Jermaine so nigh as bad as it was
for me at the time like I don't think it
came across on TV that I'd that I didn't
have an enjoyable experience but for me
it wasn't what I can do now
doing so maybe that had to happen for
the next time that I get the opportunity
to do something whether it's live on TV
or pre-recorded or stand-up or whatever
I know hi today without no words I
didn't know how to do it at the time so
it's almost like just trying to use the
bad times as learning and exactly learn
from your mistakes it's not just X it's
more experience yeah and you know that
it's no like if you're doing something a
year don't expect to be like don't
compare yourself the people here have
been doing at 10 or 15 years and seeing
with me like I shouldn't be comparing
myself to Peter K or you know people
here maybe we've been doing it 20 years
plus when they're they've twice the
experience I have plus a gig done
England and they maybe do four or five
gigs a week where as I do maybe
one every two weeks here to know on
average so it's like it's trying to not
compare yourself all the time to other
people because everyone's paths
different and just learning your
mistakes and just trying to make
yourself better and understand that when
the time is right
yeah when the opportunity presents
itself you'll you'll run with it you'll
know what did I do that
basically pregnant it's not Danny
weren't here would you ask me I can't
remember yeah yeah I mean that's kind of
or yeah going for like you know it's
really it's really inspirational to hear
those types of things
so would you get a tattoo on your back
though no no no no definitely already
its 2018 isn't lost 2018 what would you
what do you tell yourself pre dad with
all the experience you have nothing a
lot of times I beat myself up because my
kids want to play the PlayStation of the
Xbox and I'm like no you're not playing
it you know and I think sometimes I need
to be a bit more relaxed or lenient like
I feel like I am very relaxed and Paget
very casual you know I think I deal with
things pretty well but there are times
where I try and keep my kids away from
doing what they really want to do
because I know it's detrimental in the
long run when sometimes it's like just
let them enjoy themselves it's some urge
you know it's it's no nights aid
whatever it may be
let them have a knack start to plan
their games or let them do whatever they
want to do you know and it means I can
do a bit of work and things I got so I
think I would be a bit more relaxed and
lenient and I don't know I don't know
what else I would do definitely I feel
like things are pretty great at the
minute I really do feel like things are
I enjoy my time with them and I know
when they come to my house they feel at
home and they've always felt at home and
you know it
although the dynamics different compared
to when I was growing up I feel like for
them to have the best version of me I
had to make the decisions that I made
the past Jonah main which may be for
them at the time wasn't the most ideal
thing but in the long run it has given
them the best version of me Jonah Maine
where I I'm happy and I'm doing the job
I love and I'm whatever else that comes
with it but I I don't know it's a it's a
hard one I feel like I mean it is hard
it's hard to look back and go I mean
what would I say to myself pretty dodge
you know what I mean I did differently
see my kids or only my kids only faith
its I would kind of tell myself hey I
don't know I mean like a goose back
doorway I remember when I was first
having my first kid and I just can't I
mean I'm quite organized so I remember
Tommy saying to me hey if there was come
a lot of a lot here and they good at
dairy for advice you know so get up in
there right get him to me yeah I'm sayin
to me hey don't worry about it you
organized Hey and I was organized see
the force became oh I like that's here
it doesn't such a book freakin checklist
and go go to the hospital after one one
says what everything I needed to do you
know so I kind of felt lady was
organized pursuing sacking when Kim I
was I was can't go into office
that's all right you know so I was was I
wasn't too he's dressed and see the
first time when I was when I find out I
was gonna be a dad for the first time I
was 19 but 20 when he was born and the
first thing I did was I when I bought up
potty okay that that's how you clearly
say I was I got had no idea I mean I was
still a child myself I was still growing
up you know I didn't have much
experience I didn't start going out in
socializing or having drinks or anything
till I was like 17 and a half so I had
very little sort of life experience by
then I still lived at home my parents
and I've never been to university or
anything like that so I just when I
bought a party think and Joe they'll go
the toilet and this you know
obviously they'll use now base at night
and whatever but doesn't equal the
toilet in this chair in the day and how
wrong was I just used it as like
somewhere just keep my spare change for
the first maybe two or three years no I
mean you're going into something that's
completely completely playing yes don't
know but that's it that's it's trial and
error like everything you know you just
exactly you can stress yourself right
over it you can beat yourself up over it
you know that but as long as you're
doing the right thing by your child and
yourself and you know as long as you're
as long as it you give as long as you
get another go yeah and what's the
internet and stuff to you as well you
can you can research everything there
are things available there's parenting
blogs and podcasts exactly unlike and as
organized as I was I thought it was I
mean you're still good you're still you
still have a clay doing I mean you tried
your den stuff first anyways changing a
nappy for the first time it's making a
bottle it's whenever threw up the the
bottle when you realize you've had them
too quick you know it's yeah yeah I mean
it's just learning so think yeah yeah
like I like my son my youngest is like
10 and a half and myself and the owner
hopefully gonna have kids in the near
future and when we do I think it's just
gonna be like starting all over again
Jones it's like the owners like he's
done this three times but in my head I'm
like how about I can't remember July I
don't remember anything that I had ever
done before so it is gonna be a whole
new experience for the two of us but
it's one that I that I can't wait for us
well I think it'd be great to give my
kids a little brother or sister - you
think it would really you know like that
they argue and fight a lot because the
right looks in the age and a lot of
times it's like what do you do here
because they're 10 12 and 15 we can't go
and do what the 15 year old ones because
the 10 12 year olds are gonna complete
and be like I don't like this or I don't
want to do this or it's too strenuous or
too far a walk or whatever it may be but
then you don't want to do something the
10 year old wants to do because the 12
and 15 years like this is babyish or
this is you know she's working with
trying to eat
but Emily toddler I think they're just
gonna be like yeah let's do that let's
do what he wants if she wants her you
know hopefully hopefully what happen
three boys - yeah I would love I would
love a little baby girl but at the same
time - as long as it's got the arms and
legs and Southey it just whatever else
does it doesn't matter like I remember
um maybe two or three weeks after my
first son was born just being like oh
he's a boy Joey just doesn't add to your
head at the time you're just you just
say Koosh so much going on you just
didn't take it in at the time it's a
yeah it's something I look forward to
immensely and hopefully the near future
like fingers crossed crossed someone
yeah so what's the next big thing the
next big thing probably my lunch home
after this podcast
um I'm doing a solo show in Arma which
have maybe only done maybe twice before
ever I I don't usually do solo shows I
usually just go get booked for gigs and
corporate things and hosting and things
I got so do for someone who's not hey
what do you mean by solutio solo is just
me on stage then like an hour and a half
material so it's like if he were to buy
a DVD it would be of this germane that
kind of thing so I'm gonna make it a
family affair though my Dione has been
doing stand-up night for about a year so
she's gonna be my support act so she'll
come my awesome 15-20 minutes warm the
audience up maybe get a bit of a break
and then I'll just do an arn 20 or 30
whatever it may be and it's just sort of
a collection of my material that I've
been performing at different things over
the over the past maybe two or three
years so it's just like the best of you
know all coming together so I did a
better work for that at the minute I've
just recently done I'm sorry see see in
terms of evenly didn't once or twice
before I mean water so difficult to
produce solutio sound tickets I think
it's the most difficult thing trying to
get people the figured like that to know
what your style of comedy is because a
lot of people and I are like oh there's
comedy on let's go on watch
this domain but you wouldn't go in the a
record shop and go others music by the
CD you know you research it you figure
out what you like and what you don't
like and by the way that analogy was I
think Paul curry a comedian posted
something about that about a year to go
or it was like you know I think he was
doing the Edinburgh Fringe and people
were coming in this show off the street
and he just does this wacky absurd genre
of comedy that you just can't even put
in their box and he's phenomenal and he
was annoyed because people were just
coming in this show and just being like
oh this is comedy it's like well no you
can't just do that you can't just go to
storm Z gig and go get your guitar right
mate you know it's not that's not how it
works
comedy is like music where it has its
own genres you have to sort of do a
better research before you go and say
something it's different if you go to
like a normal like comedy club because
you'll get four or five different types
of comedy throughout the night Jonah
main so then that's a good way of sort
of figuring out what it is you like or
who you like or who you want to follow
in their career but um for me I feel
like as well it might be a bit harder
for me to sell tickets because I don't
put much stand-up material online okay
my stuff's all like music videos and you
know party things and just silly
characters and things like that so if
people come to my standup don't go
expecting that because it's not that at
all it's me doing stand-up comedy but
it's all like one-liners and almost like
Tim vane you know that's probably the
nearest person who could compare me to
in terms of like the style of jokes and
stuff you know because it's all just
like quick one-liners so it's yeah it's
just it's trying to find your audience
and them trying to find you I found
myself to where if you like sometimes I
put that like I on Facebook I have like
50 something thousand followers and on
Twitter of like 5,000 maybe and I would
put that joke up on Twitter and then put
a joke up on Facebook and just sort of
look at the difference and on Facebook
it could get maybe favorite 600 likes
maybe more maybe less
and then on Twitter you probably get
like five to ten retweets maybe
sometimes not even your audience yeah
whereas like I find this person who's
just on Twitter I'd be beating myself up
over it every day going why am I not
getting this audience yeah you know it's
not that you don't have the audience
it's that the audience don't have you
that I'm find you get domain yeah you
just keep doing what you're doing and
I'm actually it'll all work I didn't
you'll have the following you you want I
mean you see even on different platforms
from me you might have one that's your
favorite is it the one that you probably
get the most traction from so I mean for
me again a lot of this here stuff is
about the process know how it works so
I'm constantly trying to figure out what
works so I go from the technical video
perspective a lot of the team so for
instance one of the new things I really
recently did so I am constantly going
how does this work why does this video
work better and what what works whenever
you doing this audience so from a
technical perspective I literally have a
less that's constantly changing on my
head for each thing from not to Andris
but more tactical stuff for video and
I'm trying to keep up to deal with that
as well is difficult to so for instance
or LinkedIn recently figure dice to
thumbnails you upload a video black
screen you know I'm Mary my clients are
starting to ask more in terms of stuff
but I totally get where you're coming
from in terms of different audiences and
different platforms because you upload a
video on one platform
it doesn't even like set up for us
sometimes you know it's just it's at the
time as well when I first started sort
of I put everything in the my facebook
page and I was like this is this is my
business
knightly this is what I'm gonna do and
what I seen a lot of comedians do in
more recent times which I didn't do was
get people to move over to other
platforms yeah whereas I just kept
everyone on Facebook it was all I've got
Jesus on Facebook you know I had loads
on snapchat I think as well but then
they were the first to that sort of went
die and you know so I feel like every
day and I people are leaving my page and
what I think it's people here deactivate
their Facebook is because we change at
flatpoint system I mean one of the
things I heard Chandra say at the par
video was a I was all of those things
stick first of all when you start I
expect the one platform and then go to
if you want to then start once you have
everyone on your platform spread a tight
and intact a platform and encourage
people to go to the other ones hey to
build that that's one thing I didn't
know yes I'm just stuck with all these
people now in Facebook and find it hard
to get people I almost don't even upload
much content on Instagram or Twitter
because I'm like what's the point that
doesn't get much to mean I think I think
Twitter's good if you have already been
on a TV show or you're working alongside
someone big who's I've been twittering a
lot of things that are good for the news
people
journalists and stuff yeah politicians
topical yeah it's all give 30 seconds of
fame almost yeah
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