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- Cooking it up in the
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So as I said, welcome
back to "Lifted Logic".
Today is episode number 11.
It's crazy to think that
we've done 12 of these now,
including the pilot already.
And today we're talking all about
the best and worst first Truck mods.
So this idea actually came to us,
we were having a conversation
with a co-worker of ours.
And he said, "Hey, has anybody
ever done a video on like,
what the best first things
you do to your truck are?"
And obviously both you and I
have had some custom
vehicles over the years,
so should be a pretty no brainer for us.
So yeah, today's all about
those first must do mods
and then just a couple that
maybe you shouldn't do.
And that's probably because
both you and I have done them.
- We've done them, we're
telling you just don't bother.
- So yeah,
and at the end we'll have time
for one response from
the YouTube community.
So I asked them guys
the same thing, I said,
what's the first thing
you do to your truck?
Other than what everyone thinks about
and then we'll wrap it up.
So let's jump into the meat
and bones of the conversation.
- Let's get to it to it to it to it.
- That was actually very
impressive, I'm surprised.
So what is,
so you buy a brand new truck
or a new to you truck right,
I don't wanna assume.
- Yeah I can't afford
a brand new truck.
Don't even go there.
- Neither can I,
they don't pay us nearly enough here.
So you buy a new to you truck?
What is the first thing
you're doing to it?
- Tint.
Hands down every single time.
- [Dustin] Really?
- Yep, I can't drive a
fishbowl and it just,
like I don't know,
you feel a little bit more like
I don't, I just want more
private a little more
like it's yours.
And you're not like,
"Hey, look it I can see
this guy over there."
And I don't know, it's just like,
the first thing I do all
the time, every time.
Maybe cause it's cheap, too.
I don't know, cause it's like for $300
you can turn everything
including your windshield.
And so it's like, that's
the first thing you do.
- Let's talk about windshield tint.
- Okay.
- [Dustin] I have never had a
vehicle with windshield tint.
- Really?
- [Dustin] But you have
all of your vehicles
with windshield tint, correct?
- Yeah.
- [Dustin] So why windshield tint?
- So I actually have
one vehicle that doesn't
and that's like my winter daily driver.
And like if it's in a
snowstorm that's like that,
it's just, it's a little
bit better to not have it.
But I have 50% on my car
and I have 30% of my truck
and I wanna go to 20% on my
truck, on the windshield.
- All right, that's pretty dark.
Like my side windows are only 20%.
- What?
That's really light, I
have five on the side.
- (laughs) Limo tint over here.
- Well, yeah that's.
- My last vehicle was I
think 35 all the way around,
'cause I wanted it to be legal
and not violate Wisconsin state statute.
- You're that guy.
Technically 35 on the front windows
is still illegal.
- is still illegal. (laughs)
- Whoa, risking over here.
- Yeah, risk it for the biscuit, you know.
- I don't know, I've just always like,
windshield tint's one of
those things where like,
it'll look dumb if you've got
your whole car murdered out,
5% tint all around or even like,
like I had 15 on one of my last trucks.
And then you have nothing
on your windshield,
it's like, you can see that
everything else is tinted
and you didn't even bother
with the windshield.
So like, on my previous truck
I had 50% on the windshield
and that's like a manageable
amount where you kinda notice
from the outside if you're looking for it,
but it's still like,
it cuts down on the sun and the glare,
but it's not enough to
like, be too obvious.
30% is definitely more obvious,
but it just cuts down on a lot of it.
And I don't know if I have sensitive eyes,
or it just makes it so I
don't have to like worry
about wearing sunglasses or
squint or anything like that.
But it just, it's dark inside.
You just jump in and you can go
and like those are my summer vehicles,
you drive them in the
middle of the blinding sun.
And a lot of times like,
I'm driving to shows
that are eight, 10, 12 hours away
and makes a little bit easier to do it.
- Yeah, I think you hit
the nail right on the head
with the tint in general.
- But it's also illegal,
so like I'm not telling you to do it.
- But we're not telling you not to do it.
We're abstaining from that
conversation, that's fine.
(Junior laughs)
But I think you're right.
I think window tint is
always one of the first,
I don't know if it's the first for me,
but it's one of the first
just because it's super affordable,
you can tint like you said,
including the windshield for
pretty much under 300 bucks
anywhere you go.
There are a ton of places
that do window tint
all over, you know.
And it just, it really,
I think ties a lot of the
exterior look together.
- Yeah, I was gonna say,
it also makes it look
better 'cause it just flows.
'Cause a lot of times
there's like the door molding
or the black like trim
door molding around it
and just kinda like darkens it up
and on a black vehicle you've, (snaps)
just like that you have
a murdered out vehicle
like in two seconds after tinting it.
- Well okay, let's not be extreme here.
There's still in most cases a
lot of chrome to get rid of.
Or you know, but you're on the right path.
I see what you're saying.
So cool.
I think one that like when I
the few trucks I've owned,
or I should say the last
few trucks I've owned.
One of the firsts for me was
always a diamond plate toolbox.
And now--
- The first thing I removed
from my first F-150 I had
was the tool box.
- But hold on, this one
is multifaceted, right?
So you can do the,
like my 1500, my '92
1500 had the traditional,
like, gull-wing door you know,
over the bed toolbox and
I really like that one.
But when I bought my Power Stroke
I actually opted for an in bed
single tucked up short unit
and then I Oh my God,
I just bumped the mic,
you can probably hear
that all over the place.
Anyway, I opted for the smaller embed unit
and then I just basically
ratchet strapped it to the front.
So you could still remove
it if you wanted to.
- You ratchet strapped it?
So was it even like mounted?
- Yeah well, so what I did
is I laid it in the bed
and then I took the two
eyelets up in the corners
and I ran a small ratchet strap
and then cranked it really tight.
'Cause what you could do then
is it would stay put, right?
But if you had to take it out to utilize
the whole bed space,
you could still do that.
'Cause it's small enough,
you can just pick it up,
throw in the back of the truck
if you had to.
So, but I really liked that I liked having
that storage outside of the truck.
- That's why you buy a crew cab.
- I had an extended cab.
I don't think I can own a crew cab.
It's too big for me.
- Oh, I love my crew cab.
- Really?
- If I ever get another
like pickup again, it'll
have to be a crew cab.
I love mine.
Like there's so much room in that thing.
And it was an '04 Sierra.
Like it wasn't like an
incredibly new huge cab.
- Sure.
- But like just being a crew cab.
- The new Dodge with like the Mega Cab
where it's like an extended crew cab.
- [Junior] Yeah, right, they
say it's an apartment room.
- Takes a country acre to turn it around.
But yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it was because I had an extended cab
but I really liked having
that storage outside
of the truck for things like,
I had a six liter right, so fuel premix
and like ratchet straps,
so they're not rattling around getting,
'cause I would leather interior,
they're not getting the leather all dirty
and stuff, you know.
So that's for me that's like--
- Basically to keep all the tools rebuilt
at any given point in time,
'cause it could just blow, huh.
- Okay, listen, we just talked about this
in a this or that, okay.
- I'm sorry to rebring it up.
- So,
I had a six liter and I loved it.
It was a beautiful truck.
'04, now listen to this, '04 Lariat,
so it had heated leather, it was loaded,
it had like, dude it had,
the peddles were
electron, like adjustable,
so I could bring them up
to my short little legs.
It was a great time.
- Did that make up for
the blown head gaskets
that it also had?
- Listen okay, I got rid of it
because it had catastrophic head failure.
It's not my fault.
- There it is.
- That's a conversation
for a whole nother time.
We could go rounds and rounds
and rounds on that one.
(laughs)
- So another modification we don't require
or don't suggest is purchasing a 6-O.
- I can neither confirm nor deny this.
(laughs)
So what's your next one?
- I'd say lights.
Like there's just a lot of lights
that I'm thinking back to like
my first truck that I had.
And like, I had like grill lights
so the whole inside of
the grill would glow
and like the foot the
interior foot well lights.
Keep in mind this was high school
so it was like all of that.
- eBay LED's back then.
- Or Walmart or whatever I could find.
- [Dustin] Yup.
- And then like, light bars too,
but then also on top of that I added,
I went to Fleet Farm and got
the roof cab lights.
- [Dustin] Sure, sure.
- And added those too.
So like just literally
lights, like all of it.
Not necessarily like
headlights or tail lights.
I feel like that's something
I always do like last
or close to the end because like,
I get the lift kit in,
the wheels and tires on
and then it's like okay,
let's kinda wrap this up and
get some heads and tails.
So like, not even heads or tails,
it's more or less like accessory lights
or like adding LED's and
like stuff like that.
I feel like that's one for me that.
- Yeah, you see a lot of guys
now with like the F-150s too
they'll do the the Raptor style,
like three orange LED's in the grill.
- Yes, yup.
And those are easy 'cause
it's just three little pods
depending on what you get.
- And that's actually becoming,
I saw a Tacoma the other
day that had the same thing
and so I thought that was interesting
that you're seeing that trend
kind of expand outside
of just the F-150 world.
You know, it looked really good though.
So it's crazy.
- Yeah, depending how you do it.
It's still kind of like a poser
thing almost in my opinion,
'cause it's like, it's a
Raptor thing, you know.
- Yeah, I guess, I don't.
It looks cool.
I don't--
- [Junior] Interesting.
- It's like the guys
that Raptor grill swap
their F-150's, we see you.
- And it just says the
zeros, like O-O-O-O,
and it doesn't even say Ford.
We see you.
- Yup, we definitely see you.
First one for me and this
is we're gonna talk about.
- Is this like your first one, first one?
Like this is the first mod you do?
- No, let me back up, another first one.
- Oh okay, I didn't know if you.
- In the realm of firsts.
- Do you have one that's like
the first every time, or no?
- I don't really think so.
- [Junior] Okay.
- I take that back.
- [Junior] Oh.
- We'll change gears a little bit.
I was gonna bring this one up later.
The first thing I've ever
done with any of my trucks
and even any of my cars I think,
the very first mod I did
is always wheels and tires.
- Really?
- Yes.
- Does that include plasti
dipping your stock wheels?
- No.
- Okay, 'cause that's one that
I don't know that I would
recommend it just because
like you don't get any
like fitment difference
or anything like that.
But it's something that I've
done before because like,
when I was in high school and had my F-150
and I couldn't afford wheels
and you could afford plasti dip.
And if plasti dip lays nicely.
It blacked out my black and tan truck.
It got rid of the aluminum
Wheels and made them black then.
So like that's something that,
like it's not something I
would like not recommend doing
because sure if you want to
make your vehicle look different
and you're on a budget,
go for it but,
that's one that I've done too.
Where it's like one of the first things
'cause it's like, well, I
can't afford wheels and tires.
So this is the road I'm gonna go.
- Yeah, no, absolutely.
That was always like,
my first thing is even
and I've done some when I was younger
I did some horse trading and
not actual horse trading,
but you know, trading either
other odds and ends, miscellaneous stuff.
I had four wheels and tires
or just banked up a couple hundred bucks--
- You traded a horse for wheels and tires?
- Yes, it was a great trade.
- Nice.
- It was awesome.
- Banker's pissed.
(laughs)
- Yeah, he's got four of them now,
I guess didn't learn the first time.
But my thing was always
even if you're looking
for a stock replacement wheel size
or something close to that,
you can completely change the look
of another stock vehicle
with wheels and tires.
You know.
- And people will even keep their tires
but changes the wheels too.
- See that I've never done
like unmounted or dis, is
it unmounted or dismounted?
- Dismounted I think.
- Dis?
I don't know.
But anyway,
I've never taken stock
tires off of stock wheels
and then put them on.
- You've always just bought new.
- Yeah, yup, or I would,
you know like when I was 16, 17,
I would just scour
Craigslist for hours on end
until I found the one guy that
found a set in his back shed
and was selling them
for 200 bucks now like,
"Here we go, this is
mime, let me get 'em!"
You know.
So yeah,
that's probably my very
first always go-to mod
for mod, is wheels and tires.
- Yeah, so what about exhausts?
- That was where I was gonna
go before we change gears.
- Yeah okay.
That's one that yeah, it's so easy.
It's sad how easy it is to
chop off an exhaust like--
- Now hold on.
This is a conversation though.
All right, listen.
I was 16 once.
I bought a '92 Silverado, or Sierra 1500.
Extended cab, short box.
Five O on a five speed
and I literally cut the muffler off
the moment I brought it home.
The problem is I put nothing in its place
I just hacked her off and left her be.
- I got one up on you.
- Don't do that kids.
- '97 F-150.
- [Dustin] Okay.
Good ol' 5.4 Triton.
Figured out what a Sawzall was.
Figured out where the
catalytic converters were.
Figured out the little
above that is kind of
where the headers come down.
Cut her off right there.
- Before the cat.
- Yeah.
- Oh. (laughs)
- Like the exhaust was
literally like at my feet.
Like where it was and it was loud.
- I thought it was so bad,
because I cut mine off
just behind the cat,
which is probably equally
as terrible because
that's right under the
passenger seat in those trucks.
- [Junior] Yup.
- So it's just resinates in the cab.
- See you got to be a
smart 16 year old though
because those catalytic
converters are like $75 each
when you go to trade them in.
- Yeah, they're worth some money.
- So you go and trade those in
and then instead of buying
exhaust to replace it
you buy like tow mirrors and
interior lights and tint.
- Exactly, exactly because
that's how it works, you know.
But on a serious note,
if I had to do it all over again,
exhaust would still be
one of the first I did.
The difference is,
I would probably find an
exhaust shop and weld it up.
Because you can do,
you can have a quality,
like Mandrel Bent exhaust
made up for your truck.
I think when I got mine quoted
to basically cut it behind the cat
and then do a dual outlet
with like 12 inch tips
on 45's on the back of my pickup
it was 350 bucks or something.
- I think I was gonna say,
I eventually had an exhaust down on mine
and it was true duals
with a Cherry Bomb on each
and then it was straight out the back
and I think it was like $300.
- Yeah and that's, at the time,
it was so much money and I
just couldn't justify it.
- [Junior] Yup.
- But looking back,
I probably bought $300 worth of Advil
to cover for the headaches
I got driving my truck.
So that's definitely
an always go-to first.
- That's the thing I haven't done.
Like my Bronco I've had
it for like a year now.
Like, lifted, modified and done and like--
- Half lifted.
- Oops.
- We had to go there.
- And it's so easy just
to cut out that muffler
and get a replacement
and like have an exhaust shop weld it in
and I guarantee it'd be cheap.
Like a muffler's like $80,
and then having a shop to it.
Maybe they charged 100 but you're 180 in,
you have like an exhaust that sounds good
for 180, but less than $200 all in.
- [Dustin] Correct.
- And it's like, I don't know
why I haven't done it yet.
It's just been like, I
don't know why 'cause
it's like it's so easy and it just makes
the V8 sound like a V8 then.
It sounds like a truck like it should.
- Yeah, exactly.
No, I agree wholeheartedly.
I think one of the,
one of the go-to's for me,
and this is specifically
towards newer trucks
that a lot of guys don't think about
especially with gas trucks,
is tuning, even flash tuning.
- I've never ever gotten into tuning.
Like that's something
I've never done ever,
with any of my vehicles.
- And I haven't either
but I was just trying
like thinking out loud.
If I were to pick up
like an EcoBoost F-150,
which are getting relatively
affordable now you know,
especially some of the earlier years.
I think--
- I think those are the
ones you don't want though.
- Listen, that's a whole,
we should start another episode
and talk about trucks you shouldn't buy.
- That's fair.
- Any of them.
(laughs)
Kidding.
But if I was to buy an early F-150,
I think one of the first things
I would do is a plugin tune
and my reasoning for that is
I remember when the
EcoBoost first came out,
I forget if it was Car &
Driver or Road & Track,
one of them took a truck
right off the factory line,
or right off the showroom floor rather,
and took it to one of the drag strips.
It was on the east coast.
They did an intake, an
exhaust, and a tune.
All stuff you could bolt on at the track
and they ran like a 12.7.
- Really?
- [Dustin] Yeah!
- Geez.
- It was crazy.
- That's impressive.
- So like, the additional
power you can gain
out of a flash tune is phenomenal.
- That's also on a turbo'd vehicle though.
On like a naturally aspirated,
I don't know if it'll benefit
that much without work, right?
- You don't have that many gains, correct.
- 'Cause that's like,
like diesel's are crazy.
You can slap on it and you have
like an extra 150 horsepower.
and it's just like, what.
- Yeah and 300 extra
foot pounds of torque.
It's a great time for melting your exhaust
because your EGT's are so hot
'cause you're just dumping fuel
into the diesel, it's fine.
- Geez.
- Absolutely.
What else you got?
Don't leave me hanging.
- I'm running out.
- You gotta have one more
and then we'll talk about
the worst ones to do.
- Audio.
Audio, all the time.
- Interesting.
I had in my '92,
I had a Single-DIN pioneer
deck with a CD player
and I thought I was the
coolest kid on the block.
- How old are you?
- Old.
(laughs)
Yeah, it was, that was
back when I remember
I got the deck gifted to me
actually because at that time,
aftermarket CD decks were
still like 350 bucks.
You know it was before
you could buy Single-DIN from Walmart.
- I'm not gonna mention that
when I was in high school
CDs were on their way out.
- Are you that much younger than me?
- I don't know I'm 23.
- What you're,
whoa, hold on here.
I'm 27 this year sir.
- Holy shit, there it is folks!
- I didn't realize we were that far apart.
- Is there a little bit
of gray in that beard?
- Yes, there is actually,
and it's from dealing with
kids like you all day.
- Oh damn. (laughs)
- But yeah, I agree.
I mean, audio is the move.
- And it's always been like,
it'll be a aftermarket head unit.
Something cheap that I can
find or is gifted to me,
but then it's like,
I won't upgrade the door
speakers or if I do,
it's like something cheap,
but then it's always a subwoofer.
Like a Sony Xplod, or like a Kicker.
Like that's always what
it was back in the day.
Now it's like I've figured out
that there's some nicer brands
and so I've gone with like CT Sounds,
is what I've gone with
a couple of vehicles
and absolutely love the way they are.
Figured out how to wire them correctly
and like run them at 2 ohms
and all that fun stuff.
Or even 1 ohm I think
I have in the Bronco.
But I didn't know that
back in the day it's like,
power wire to power and
amplifier plug in here,
plug in here, plug in
there and we're good to go.
- I remember putting my 12
in my pickup in my '92 and
I remember--
- Did you haven a mounted nice ?
- No it was just sat,
it was a box sitting on the floor.
And I remember,
I ran the power like the
power cord from Walmart.
Through the fire, or not
even through the firewall,
I came through the fender
and then through the door channel.
- What?
Oh no.
- [Dustin] And then tucked
it under the carpet.
- See my dad helped me to make sure
that at least my wiring
went through the firewall
like it should and everything.
- Nope, I just ran mine
wherever I could run a wire.
It was terrible.
- Except I had two 12's
and one was stuffed
in my extended cab F-150.
One was on the floor and I
backed my seat up all the way
to hold it in place.
And the other one was just
buckled in on the back bench.
So I had two 12s just kind of
sitting right there behind me.
- Just hanging out back there.
That's too funny.
So let's change gears.
Let's talk the worst mods you can do.
Now, let me back up by saying I get it.
We've been there.
I was a relatively cash
strapped young kid as well,
you know, so I understand
the allure behind doing some
of these but take it from us.
Don't do it, it's bad.
We already talked about one, right.
My first one was cut off exhaust.
I cannot stress enough that
it is worth saving the extra dollars
for just outside of the performance,
outside of the back pressure argument,
outside of the potentially
cutting your cat out
and then having no downstream O-2 sensor
and wondering why you're
getting five MPGs right?
Outside of all of that.
The headaches you will save
yourself from listening.
I remember, I moved up to Appleton.
I'm from about a hour
and a half south of here,
and my first year going back home.
I did 80 miles an hour
on the highway going home for Thanksgiving
and the whole time all
you could hear is drone.
Because it was cut off right
under the passenger seat,
you couldn't even have a conversation.
Don't do it.
- No, thank you.
- [Dustin] That's bad.
- I'm getting a headache
just thinking about it.
- [Dustin] Correct.
- It's like oh, no flashbacks.
Our media van was the same
way because Mr. Cody Banker
likes to hack shit off
and not replace it with anything.
So we would drive our media
van for rollers and stuff
and the whole thing
just reverberated with.
(Junior making vibrating
noise) the whole time.
- And that one was the worst
because it's got to be cab.
- And you could just
smell the exhaust too,
it was just a horrible experience.
- We're all gonna die of
cancer at 35, it's fine.
I'll go before Junior apparently.
- We got sick rollers
though, hey we're good.
(laughs)
- Absolutely.
What else you got?
- Trying to think,
so worst mods.
- Mods that if you had to go back
and tell yourself not to do them.
What would you do?
- eBay Projector Headlights.
- Beautiful.
- Do you have that one?
- Yes.
- [Junior] Really?
- I also had HID's and--
- Yep, and either cheap
projectors or non-projectors.
- Oh, that's a good one I've done, yes.
I've done that first and then
I went to eBay projectors,
which were equally as bad.
Given a little bit
better than having HID's
and PNP headlight housings
but like still not as good as getting
an actual like projector
and like everything.
I've built a couple of sets of headlights
and I understand now that
you can even go on Amazon
and get the parts like,
The Retrofit Source is like
the place to go for headlights.
But even if you're gonna go
on Amazon and get the stuff,
it's gonna be really good quality.
It might not be a 10 out of 10
but it'll still be like
a 7 1/2 or 8 out of 10.
Which I'm good enough with considering
it end up costing me $80 in
parts and a little bit of time
throwing some headlights in the oven.
- Correct yep, exactly.
And it's really, especially
if you own an older truck,
or an older vehicle in general,
it's really not that scary
because if you mess the housing up,
it's not that expensive.
- Oh dude, yeah.
- I bought brand new housings
for my '92 when I had it
for like $30 for the pair.
It's not that bad, you know.
- I got all cleared
out ones for the Bronco
and they were 80 bucks.
But those are like all cleared out
like all nice looking ones
like ready to get retrofit
and everything under $100.
- Under $100 you know.
Which is significantly
better than driving down
the road blasting that HID everywhere.
- Considering in my car I bought.
They have like a newer
body style headlights
that fit their 06 projectors,
like their OEM ones.
So like they're really nice.
I think those are either 600
I think they're $800
actually, for like OEM,
good quality projector
deadlights for my infinity.
But it's OEM, it fits nice,
it's like literally perfect.
But you can customize a set of headlights
for $2-$300 if you try and do it yourself
and there's a lot of videos on YouTube
and a lot of forums you can read,
that'll help you along.
But that's something that,
I remember I got I was really excited
I got some eBay headlights
they were like spider
or something like that.
- The ol' spider headlights.
- They had little like CFL ring on them.
And then it was a projector
too and everything
and I got them installed and it was like,
sure it was a white light,
but it wasn't really any
better than the headlights
that I, like the stock was
probably better quality,
better display and there's
so many articles out there.
And I know we're not a headlight company,
but you can go out you can research
and figure out like cutoff lines
and what projectors should look like.
And it'll blow your mind
how much they look like a light bar is on
when you just have your headlights on
and they don't blind anybody
as you drive past them
going down the road.
- Yeah, and that's exactly it.
I put HID's in my daily, the GTI,
and that was my first set of projectors.
And the difference is mind blowing,
you know to have that light focus not just
"Hello here I am."
- Yep.
And I mean, there's a lot of parts to it
'cause HID's themselves are
like pieced together and stuff
but it's, they work a
hell of a lot better.
- Worth it, worth it, absolutely.
I had another one on here.
I had hockey puck spacer lifts
and or cranking your keys up.
- Have you done either of them?
- I cranked my keys.
- Oh, see I had a two wheel drive F-150.
I was going to crank my keys.
I found out from my buddy who had a K-1500
at the time, that you
could just crank them up
and then you'd have a little bit--
- it's a free lift kit buddy,
you just get under there with and just.
(Dustin makes vibrating sound)
- For some reason his front tires kinda--
- That doesn't happen no.
- That's so weird.
But I got under mine, started looking,
sent him a photo and I'm like,
"I don't think I have what you said
we're supposed to have under here, what."
And then I'm like, well,
it's a two wheel drive.
The technology is completely different.
It doesn't have any of that.
- [Dustin] Correct.
- So I was like, well, shit.
I think I actually probably texted Banker,
way back then little 17
year old Junior like,
"Hey,(mumbles)."
- [Dustin] So last week.
- Yeah, and like "Oh
yeah, you can't do that."
- Yeah, yeah I got under there
and we cranked them all the way up.
Like not, so like,
you can crank keys, small bits.
- There's adjustability there, yeah.
- Small bits and it's okay.
But we got under there and I kid you not,
Milwaukee Impact wound her
till she stopped going.
- How did that ride?
- Like shit. (laughs)
- Did you put it back down
or did you just leave it
'cause you wanted a lift kit.
- I left it and then sold it that way.
That was back when I had a set
of Firestone 23 degree tires, I think,
which looked like a turf tire
but there was this much
room between the lugs
and it just it had no traction in the mud
and it made a lot of noise on the highway.
- Yikes.
- Yeah.
I was at that point I was even on 16 inch,
I think they're 16's they
might have been 15's.
Careful, I'll date myself here.
They were American Racing Outlaw 2 reps.
They weren't even the real
wheel, the bullet hole.
- Oh no.
Reps, gotta love 'em, that's awesome.
- Yes, sir.
You got any other worst mods?
- I almost did what probably
would have been the worst mod
but I sold the truck before I could have.
- [Dustin] What was it?
- A custom front bumper.
- Like a tube, a hand welded tube.
- A tube, yup, yup.
So I was gonna make the ADD like,
I forget which one it is
but it's like the tube
and there's like little
panels and stuff like that.
I was gonna make one myself.
I bought all the PVC had it all mocked up
and stuff like that.
And just considering some
of like the you know,
like the really blocky
diamond plate bumpers
that people make and you can just tell
that it was homemade in someone's barn.
- [Dustin] Yeah.
- I'm sure this probably
would have turned out
the same way type of thing
and like just a lot of homemade bumpers,
unless you really know
what you're doing with fab,
probably aren't gonna look that good.
So that was one that I almost did,
but didn't 'cause it was two wheel drive,
was gonna make it look kind
of a pre-runner type of thing,
that whole thing and I didn't do it.
And after seeing other
people's homemade bumper work
I'm like.
- Yeah.
- I mean, there's a reason
that you spend $1,000
to get one that's like,
approved and made by like companies
that it'll save your vehicle
if you get into a crash.
- And that's probably the bigger thing
that you should touch on right.
So you can make your own bumpers
and if you take your time
and you measure it well
and you weld it well
and you paint it well,
it can look really good.
But there's a certain degree of confidence
that comes with buying
a bumper from a company
that you know, it's not
gonna crumble or break
and crack when in the event
that you rear end somebody.
- Yeah, unless you're
over here like building
the bumper getting
ready to go, testing it,
seeing what bends, reinforcing it.
- Slamming it to a brick wall.
- Yes, like unless
you're doing all of that.
There could be bad consequences.
- Yeah, absolutely.
I have one more.
- Okay.
- And this might be the one.
- Uh oh.
- [Dustin] This might be the
worst mod I've ever done.
- So this is like the worst truck mod.
- Or at least it'll probably
make a lot of people angry.
- Oh boy.
- Cold air intake.
- Banker tried getting me to buy one
for my Bronco that I just got.
- I had, the '92 was a TPI motor right,
which is a throttle body but non like,
it's not vortech.
They don't make a lot of
intakes for those trucks.
They're older, they were older
even when I had it already.
I found on eBay,
for those of you that
are listening to this
I wish you could see Junior's face because
the moment I said eBay his nostrils flared
and you could see the look on his face of
"Oh boy, here we go."
So anyway I bought, or are found on eBay
a guy that makes intakes in his garage.
- Wait, so he like he what?
- [Dustin] Yes.
- Is it like Craigslist?
- Maybe 'cause--
- Like Etsy before Etsy existed?
- It must have been.
- Back in 2002 when you
were in high school.
- I don't know, the product
photos were literally taken
with like a Nokia phone.
- Nice, you're really dating yourself now.
- And all you could see is this like
tin can steel piece thing
that sits on top of--
- So he used like a coffee
can to make an air intake.
- It might have started as
a coffee can to be honest,
I'm not really sure.
- Bushes baked beans.
- Roll that beautiful bean footage.
(laughs)
But no, it's like this little
this like super thin sheet steel like--
- Like an HVAC?
- Yeah, kind of, and it sat on top of the,
'cause those engines had
the round air intake, right.
- Yeah, yup.
- So it sat right over
the top of the intake,
and then it came up and it just had like
one tube that came off of it.
And it just went into a cone filter.
- Okay, yup yup.
- Cost me $36.
- Hey, that's not bad.
- With the wing not even.
- What?
- It came with the wingnut for the stud.
- Wow, there you go.
- We were living in high class.
- Did it do anything?
- No, because it wasn't
even a cold air intake.
(Junior laughs)
Because it literally just moved the intake
from the top of the engine
to six inches to the right of the engine.
That's the only difference.
Oh, and it also came
with a reinforcing bar
that would mount to the one body bolt.
- Just so it wouldn't sit there and shake.
(laughs)
- Correct it wouldn't hop up and down.
But the intake did literally nothing.
If anything it probably hurt
my intake air temperatures, right.
So the idea for those
of you that don't know
the idea behind a cold air intake
is that you're drawing cool
air from outside of the car,
and it keeps your intake
temperatures lower,
which in turn helps--
- More power baby.
- More power, right correct.
Healthier combustion.
So the problem is that
when you move your intake
six inches to the right,
all the heat coming off
of the exhaust manifolds,
they're not headers right,
but exhaust manifolds,
is literally radiating up
and then sucking in the intake.
- Oh no.
- It was terrible, don't do that.
- Yeah, I have never done one before.
I actually at one point
purchased one used,
it was like, I think it was like $30.
I got it from somebody that I knew.
It must have been for the newer 5-4's
not my 5-4, 'cause I went to bolt it up
and it didn't even fit.
So I was like, okay,
so he actually let me return it to him.
Super nice guy, I'm sure
he went and flipped it
and sold it like later.
So I got my money back.
So I've never spent money
on a cold air intake.
Banker was trying to
convince me to get one
for my new Bronco that I had just gotten.
And they're like $380 for like the full.
- Yes.
- And I'm like, what.
I don't know, for me,
if I'm gonna spend $400
I'd rather get like a cam
or something cool that I can then install
and like have more
horsepower than the 10 or 15
that you get out of a cool air intake.
- Not even, I think it's
five or six, it's so minimal.
- Okay, and like that's my opinion.
I've never been interested in them.
I don't see the point in them.
I don't pop my hood at shows
and I don't need it to look
pretty or anything like that.
So like that's just me but yeah,
that's one I could definitely
see spending $400 on that.
Look at all the other
shit we just talked about
you can get for $400.
- Correct.
You can buy level kits for $400.
- You can probably get
a set of like steelies.
Like 18x10, negative 38
so those bitches will
stick out a little bit
on your stock truck.
- Correct.
- For the same price.
That's just me though.
I mean everyone's got their
own opinion, their own taste,
but that's a good one I didn't
even think about that one
'cause a lot of people will get that
'cause they think it's more horsepower,
more this, that and the
other thing, and in reality.
- K&N did a phenomenal job marketing this.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Your stock air box,
unless you're pushing major horsepower,
which you probably have
a different intake anyway
because you are seeing that
restriction on the dyno.
Your stock box is fine.
- Still gotta have that
K&N oil filter though.
- Yes.
More power.
(laughs)
- All right, let's jump
into ask us anything.
So I polled the YouTube
community and I said,
let me read verbatim.
"We're filming another
episode of "Lifted Logic" soon
"and we want to know,
"what's the most common
overlooked first mod
"you do on your vehicles?
"Let us know in the comments down below
"and don't forget to tune in Saturday
"for another episode of 'Lifted Logic'."
That's this one right here.
So there were a bunch
of responses actually.
78 comments as of today.
Lots of exhaust, tint, stuff
we already talked about,
but one that I found
really, really interesting.
Guy's name is Baconator 13,
- Aye.
- Let's go.
- I want one of Wendy's now.
- I don't think I've ever had a Baconator.
- What?
- I'm sorry.
Damn.
- It's one of the best
first mods you can do
when you buy your truck.
- [Dustin] Go get Baconator, anyway.
- Not sponsored by Wendy's.
- But for real Wendy's,
if you're listening to this hook us up.
We'll take it.
- They have a pretty like
fire your social media
so I think they'll probably
like just roast us or something.
"Look at these truck dudes just trying
"to get free Wendy's, good luck bros".
- It's fine.
Anyway, he said that he puts
scented cabin air filter in.
He says "hate the look of fresh
air fresheners everywhere.
"No hate on the guys with black ice,
"smells like an old man."
That was a fun personal attack.
- Black ice like an old man.
That's an interesting topic in itself.
- Yeah, we could we could
do a whole podcast on that.
- That reminds me of being
16 years old, oh man.
- I still, alright, moving on.
Segway, we're not talking about that.
Anyway, he says "or the diamond plate ones
"which look like a try-hard tradesman,
"but just cleaner and last longer."
I didn't know that you could
get scented cabin air filters.
- I don't even know how to replace
a cabin air filter honestly.
Like do all vehicles have them
or do newer vehicles have them?
I've literally never
dealt with one in my life.
- I believe, I'm just
gonna look them up here
for like a 2014.
- Like in 1993 when they
created the Ford Bronco.
- No, your Bronco does not have
a cabin air filter, Junior.
- Like what vehicles will?
I mean, I had a '97 F-150.
- It might actually.
- An '04-Sierra, a '94
Bronco, now a '93 Bronco.
And I don't know I've
never had to replace it.
Maybe it's something that
I should have replaced
on every single one of those
vehicles to make it feel nicer.
Breathe nicer.
I don't know, that sounds.
- There's a retrofit kit.
- So I don't have one but I could.
- For a cabin air filter,
but you could, wow.
- Can I just drill a hole in my windshield
and then add a little filter on there?
Then like glue a hanging tree to that
and then I'll just blow
the scent right in.
- Alright, that's enough.
There it is another
episode of "Lifted Logic".
Big shout out to Junior
for joining us today.
Thank you.
- Hell yeah.
- This was a blast.
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