

### Spirit Relationships:

### Coping With Spirit Influence

### By

### Jesus (AJ Miller)

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### This ebook is a transcript of a seminar delivered on 27th March 2010 by Jesus (AJ Miller) as part of the Spirit Relationships series of seminars. In it Jesus describes how spirits are able to negatively influence us through our unhealed emotional injuries, and the ways in which we can protect ourselves from the negative spirit influence that occurs in our day to day lives.

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Table of Contents

### Coping with Spirit Influence: Part 1

1. Introduction

2. Differences between progression on Earth and in the spirit world

2.1. The Earth is in a first sphere condition

2.2. More truths can "seemingly" be seen in the spirit world than on Earth

3. Influences that affect progression on the Divine Love Path on Earth

3.1. Family

3.1.1. An example of religious beliefs

3.2. Friends

3.3. Spirits

4. The emotional basis of spirit influence

4.1. Emotions that are harmonious with Divine Truth provide protection

4.1.1. An example of sexual injuries

4.2. Spirit attack is one of the biggest problems that we face in our progression

5. Spirits influence us through our unhealed emotions

5.1. An example of rage towards mum

5.2. Many of our thoughts come from spirits

5.3. Spirits can shut us down emotionally through our hooks into them, which are often unrelated to the emotion we're processing

5.3.1. An example of a man who sexually projects at women being influenced by male spirits

5.4. Our relationships with spirits are similar to our relationships with people on Earth

5.4.1. An example of a spirit influencing a person who is afraid to ask a question

5.5. We often allow spirits to influence us in order to gain approval and avoid attack

5.5.1. An example of a male spirit influencing a woman

6. Never compromising truth offers protection from spirit influence

6.1. Our addictions can create thoughts that are disharmonious with truth but we believe to be harmonious with truth

6.2. Many people distort the truth or are afraid of truth

6.3. An example of spirits using Divine Love Path terminology to manipulate people on Earth

6.4. Spirits can influence us because they can see our emotional condition

6.4.1. Living in doubt increases the chances of spirit influence

6.4.2. It is possible to process spirits' emotions when we think we are processing our own emotions

7. A willingness to feel our emotions provides protection from negative spirit influence

7.1. An example of a lady being sexually abused by spirits

7.1.1. Working through emotional injuries allows God and benevolent spirits to protect us

7.1.2. Being honest about how willing we are to feel our emotional injuries

7.1.3. Being angry indicates a lack of willingness

### Coping with Spirit Influence: Part 2

8. Spirits can influence us through our anger and addictions

8.1. Our personal truth may be that we have a desire to be angry

8.2. An example of Mary projecting spirits' anger at AJ due to an addiction to please women

8.3. Being angry indicates that we are out of harmony with love and truth

8.3.1. An example of an interaction with an angry woman on AJ and Mary's trip to New Zealand

8.4. Spirits around us often threaten and control us with rage

8.5. Not owning our anger allows us to be easily manipulated by spirits

8.6. Spirits manipulate us through threats and bribery

8.7. Anger results from unmet addictions

8.8. Owning anger means having it pass through us, not towards the other person

9. Discovering why we are not willing to feel

9.1. Using devices to help us get into emotions doesn't address the unwillingness

9.1.1. There is only one way to reach at-onement with God

10. Being logical offers protection from spirit influence

10.1. Doubt opens us up to spirit influence

10.1.1. Truth can be discovered through experimentation

10.1.2. An example of a person getting angry with us

10.2. An example of a man getting angry about the "Divine Love Sanctuary"

11. Not projecting anger at ourselves or others can protect us from spirit influence

11.1. Spirits can hook into us hurting ourselves

11.2. Desiring to be angry creates violence

11.3. Receiving protection from God when we're willing to feel

11.4. The Law of Attraction responds to our level of willingness

11.5. Owning anger immediately protects us from spirit influence

12. Protection from spirit influence is intrinsic to us, and not an external barrier

12.1. Gender differences in the approach to the emotional and logical sides to Divine Truth

12.2. Understanding that Divine Truth is logical and emotional can help discern spirit influence

13. Projecting anger attracts many spirits to us

14. Faith is one of the biggest protections against spirit influence

14.1. Faith, trust and hope are important qualities to develop while on Earth

14.2. Faith is like a shield that stops the arrows of malicious people

14.2.1. An example of accusations that the Divine Love Path is a cult

15. Closing Words

15.1. Recommended reading

15.2. Preview of the following day's discussion on spirit possession and obsession

Coping with Spirit Influence: Part 1

1. Introduction

As you know Mary and I had a three-week trip over to New Zealand. One of the things for me that I had to deal with emotionally over there was that I was quite saddened by the amount of destruction by white people. This whole thing that we seem to have of conquer the world and conquer every plant, animal and everything in our wake and the amount of destruction it creates; just seeing literally hundreds of kilometres of mountains with no trees on them. That was quite surprising for me, I sort of expected New Zealand to be a little different than that, and so I had a few emotions to deal with about that. And Mary dealt with quite a number of different emotions too while we were away, so that was really good for us.

We got home two weeks ago now and we did one session, as many of you know, last week in Brisbane on the Sunday without having a whiteboard, which was pretty hard for me (laughter), but I got over it. The presentation last week was about addictions and expectations, "The Human Soul - Expectations and Addictions", and in fact I would probably like to have that discussion with you again at some point because I feel it is quite an important discussion to have. (00:05:12)

Now today some of you are probably expecting that I chat about soulmates, is that right? No? Oh that's good because I'm not going to (laughter) because we did a couple of those discussions a month ago instead. We will be having another soulmate discussion or another weekend on the soulmate issue at some point in the future, but what I wanted to raise with you over the coming couple of weeks in preparation for the hundred and sixty of you who are going along to Mary's workshops is a number of different things that you face in your day to day lives in terms of opposition to staying in truth and actually progressing towards God. (00:06:00)

2. Differences between progression on Earth and in the spirit world

There are three or four main areas that are affecting your progression towards God and that cause you at any one point in time to get quite shut down and disillusioned with the process of becoming at-one with God. So what I'd like to do firstly is note down what they are, and I'm going to then hone in on one of them and talk about one of them today. And what I'll do the next time we get together, in a couple of week's time, is I'll hone in on another and talk about that. There are actually a few that I've already talked about that are a part of it, but what I would like to say firstly is that being on Earth and progressing towards God is a fair bit different in some ways to being in the spirit world and progressing towards God, and there are a number of very practical and logical reasons why that is the case which I would like to describe to you.

2.1. The Earth is in a first sphere condition

The Earth is in the first sphere state and then you've got second sphere, third sphere and so forth; these are all dimensional spaces in the universe, or spheres of progression let's call them. Each one of those is a different gradient of love. (00:07:36)

The Earth is in a first sphere condition

Now because the Earth is in the first sphere, when we live on the Earth and we're trying to progress, we're trying to get out of what everybody else actually does, because most people around us are in that same place. We're trying to get ourselves out of the mud, if you like, from an emotional perspective. Now that's very, very hard when you're surrounded with people who want you to stay in the mud, because you just find yourself out and somebody looks at you, and you're just about teetering on the edge of the mud. And somebody gives you a push back into it and away you go again, splat, and you've got to climb back out again. And there are a lot of different things going on emotionally and also in terms of external pressures that cause us to struggle when we're on Earth. (00:08:27)

2.2. More truths can "seemingly" be seen in the spirit world than on Earth

Now when we're in the spirit world, there are a number of different truths that we know to be true compared to when we're on Earth. For example, one of the truths is that you can't die, or you could say that death is just a doorway into another dimension. On Earth, many of us have a lot of resistance to even accepting that emotionally, where we are very afraid of death, we're very afraid of what will happen afterwards, what will happen to our life afterwards, what will happen to people around us. And if you look at the world generally how they respond to the aspect of death, we don't want to talk about it, do we? If we do talk about it, it's like a monster in the room most of the time for many of us. So what we finish up doing with regard to death is ignoring it most of our life until we are just about to die and then of course we want to talk about it, but nobody around us generally does unless they are also just about to die. And a lot of times what we're doing really is trying to avoid the fact that you're all going to die and much of our life is spent avoiding that emotionally. So can you see when I get to the state where I no longer believe that death can affect me, I'm going to be very different emotionally to everyone around me. (00:09:55)

Not only that but let's say I did pass and let's say I was on the Divine Love Path, what would happen is that I would attract some spirits who are on the Divine Love Path to assist me. Those spirits will obviously be quite bright and I've learnt now on Earth that actually the brighter the spirit, the more they are in a state of love, so therefore they know more about love than I do, and so I can then start to trust that. (00:10:23)

The fact is too that I can now see the true condition of people on the Earth; that they were falsifying to me most of their life as well. So I can easily read and I go along and I visit my wife who is still on Earth and find, "Oh she didn't really like me very much. (Laughter) That's a bit sad finding that out after living with her for fifty years." (Laughter) There are a lot of emotions that come up about that. Then we go along to our best friend and find, "Oh my best friend's actually in love with my wife. (Laughter) Wow, I didn't know that either, for all that time." And then we go along to our children and discover, "Oh, they're not really impressed with me. Okay what went on there?" And I start looking back at my life and seeing why they might not be too impressed with me due to my actions or whatever. And then I go along to see my mates down at the footie that I used to go to every weekend and find, "Wow, they don't even give a stuff that I'm dead." (Laughter) So we start feeling different emotions with different people, and because we can now see the truth about different things, it makes it a bit easier to begin facing the truth ourselves. We can now see the truth of these interactions.

So after a while we've got these Divine Love spirits who come to help us in the spirit world and we're maybe, by this stage, in the second sphere. We're now quite trusting of these spirits, knowing that they're brighter than us, and we're progressing through everything that they've taught us. We're now trusting that there must be other dimensions in the spirit world whereas before, when we're on Earth, it was just something somebody told me, and I don't really know for sure. So there are a lot of different things that cause me to feel like I want to stay on the Divine Love Path in terms of my progression. (00:12:14)

Also I can start comparing things. I see the man that's on the Natural Love Path and what he's doing and how slowly he progresses compared to me dealing with my emotions and having this stuff come out of me, and I progress very rapidly. So I can compare even that; I can actually see the truth of what's going on very easily. (00:12:34)

Not only that, I'm not surrounded by people I can't see; I'm surrounded by everyone that I can see. When I say people I can't see, obviously there are people who are higher up in their development of love than I am that I can't see, but the people that are around me in poor conditions, or in the same condition as me, or the people around me in poorer condition than me. I can actually visit them any time I want. So I can actually go down to the person that I thought I was mates with who is in the spirit world before I passed and I can look at him and go, "Gee whiz he's a scary fellow, I don't know if I want to spend time with him now." But while I was on the Earth I might have been spending time with him every single moment of my life because he might have been attached to me through some kind of attraction, influencing me.

Now when I'm in the spirit world I can see the people who are influencing me. I can see the effects they're having on me, I can feel the emotions of the projections when they enter me; I can do everything and see everything a lot more clearly. So I can notice what's actually influencing me a lot more and then, not only that, I can see the auric field of the spirit body of the person, which means that I can see the colours in their body and associate those colours with different emotions. I can see the co-relation between their emotions and my emotions, and what's actually causing my Law of Attraction. (00:14:08)

So when I pass and I'm now looking at somebody else, I'll say, "You've got the same emotion as I have. We're both upset with women. That's probably why we've been mates a lot of our life; because we can get together and talk about women and even if we don't talk about women, we feel comfortable with each other, because both of us are in the same state of feeling upset towards women." And we can then determine whether we want to address that emotion or not in order to progress. (00:14:36)

Now all of those things are available to me when I pass in the spirit world but they seemingly, and I say seemingly because it's not really a truth, seemingly they are not available to me here on Earth. In other words, seemingly I can't see spirits; for many of us that's the truth and so therefore I can't see their auric field, and I can't see their body, and I can't see their emotions. I can walk up to somebody here on Earth who looks nice and pretty or handsome and I think, "He must be in good condition," but really he's not in good condition and I think he is because I can't see the truth of what's coming out of him emotionally. Now this is seemingly again because there are ways for you to see but often we feel we can't. (00:15:28)

And so what happens on Earth is that we have all of these external influences affecting us emotionally and what I'd like to do is say to you is these external influences will greatly determine whether you desire to progress or not on Earth with regard to the Divine Love Path. (00:15:52)

3. Influences that affect progression on the Divine Love Path on Earth

Well let's have a look at what some of the influences are. If we look at our environment, the first set of primary influences upon us, in terms of external to us, are usually our family.

3.1. Family

Now very recently I gave a talk about the human soul and I called it "The Human Soul - Emotions, Truth and Families", and one of the reasons why I gave that talk was to show you how the family influences you in terms of holding you in a place of not wanting to progress. Now I'm not saying that families are a bad thing. What I'm saying, and let's clarify it, is that the family is going to be one of the greatest influences to you growing away from the same condition that they are in. So, for example, here I am (AJ draws on whiteboard) here's my father, here's my mother, where did most of my emotional injuries come from?

Most emotional injuries in a son come from his parents

Most of my emotional injuries come from them, and also of course from my environment. So we've got all of the environmental factors, of which my parents, or lack of parents, were a major factor in creating my emotional injuries.

3.1.1. An example of religious beliefs

So let's say I want to deal with one of those injuries. Let's say the injury is dad's an atheist and mum's an agnostic, do you know what I mean by an agnostic? A person who doesn't know what they believe about the spirit world and about God. So dad is an atheist, in other words he's a firm believer there is no God, and mum's an agnostic, and she doesn't know what to believe' whether God exists or doesn't exist; she doesn't really know, the jury is out for her. So what emotions are going to be in me? I'm going to have some emotions about, "Does God exist? Does God not exist? Maybe God doesn't exist, like dad says." Dad comes up with all these arguments about religion of course, because many atheists have become atheists because of religion, let's face it, so I've got all this anti religion stuff going on inside of me as well emotionally. (00:18:20)

So I finish up having an anti God stance and I also finish up feeling anti religion; so I've got an anti-God, anti-religion stance.

Emotional injuries about religion are passed down from each parent to their son

Let's say I want to resolve what's going on inside of me emotionally about all that. What's going to happen is, not only do I have to now resolve the emotion that's inside of myself about it - my own doubts about God, my own anger and maybe rage and different emotions that I have towards religion - but now I've also got the weight of dad's projections about of all of those things affecting me too. So not only do I have my own emotions to deal with, but I also have my dad's emotions to deal with in the process. So can you imagine that now I start suspecting that there's a God just my suspicions alone are going to trigger my father, are they not? What's he going to start feeling? Well he's going to start feeling his authority is being confronted, he's been through this same process that I'm going through now, I should just accept the fact that there's no God, he's proven that already and so forth. So he's going to have quite a lot of different emotions in response to my feeling there may be a God. Now unless my father is able to own completely all of his own emotions without projecting a single one of them onto me, can you see I'm going to have some opposition from my father on that matter, quite simply? (00:20:18)

Now my father has the choice to not do that. He could just say to himself, "Alright my son's an intelligent man, my son knows what he's doing. I've brought him up to know what's he's doing," (and trust that he's brought him up to know what he's doing), "and so therefore if my son wants to go off on this discovery tour, I could help him." But there are not too many parents that do that, let's face it. (00:20:43)

Now it would be lovely if they did because that would actually be an act of love and that would then mean that the family wouldn't be one of the things opposing your discovery of truth. But unfortunately what happens is the family has an emotional investment in these things. For example, the father may have had some very negative experiences with religion; emotional experiences that he hasn't ever released inside of himself. So when you start talking about God, he automatically associates God with religion, and where's he going with this now emotionally? Now there's all these emotions about religion that he starts feeling that are unresolved inside of him, that he's unwilling to completely feel by himself without expressing them back to you, and so now he's projecting at his son that, "Unless you have an anti-religion stance, you're not my son anymore," and that is an opposition to you growing in truth and coming to your own state about whether you believe you should have anti religion stance or not.

This will apply to an anti-God stance and it applies to all sorts of things, right down to your viewpoint of the opposite gender. Like if dad thinks that all women need to be put down and kept barefoot and pregnant, then as soon as I start challenging that emotion in myself (because it's going to reside in myself if it's in my father most probably, or the opposite emotion may reside there too), one of the first persons I'm going to start challenging is my father. And of course if he doesn't want to deal with the hurt from his own past about why he believes that, then of course we're going to be in disagreement with each other again. (00:22:35)

Now none of that needs to happen, does it? We don't need to be enemies with our own family. Our family doesn't need to be our enemies with us. In fact if we are all in a state of love that would never occur. However, unfortunately, because my family has an emotional investment generally in me maintaining the same emotions and the same beliefs that my family has, often this occurs. So the family then becomes one of the primary points of opposition for us emotionally. So what happens is as soon as I start to think about different truths, I often start to get quite strong emotional attacks from my family as a result of that. (00:23:24)

3.2. Friends

Alright, what else is a part of our environment? Obviously our friends are a primary part of our environment, aren't they? So we've got myself and I've got a few male friends maybe and a few female friends surrounding me as well.

Our male and female friends also influence our progression

So I've got these friends and I start off having a close relationship with these friends, and obviously they are friends for a reason. Now unfortunately, for many of our friendships, they are not based upon truthful emotional interactions with them but they are many times based on common interests, common goals and common passions. So if I have a passion for footy, my three mates have all got a passion for footy because there's a Law of Attraction going on. I've got a passion for the outdoors so my three mates all love four wheel driving, going out fishing all those kinds of things for the outdoors. That's how we are; we enjoy each other's company doing those things. If I had to ask my mate whether he was really happy in his marriage, I may not know and he may not have ever told me, but because we've got these other desires and passions that match, we're going along in the same direction. So then what happens is I come up and start questioning this issue as to whether I should eat meat or not, and we're all fishermen. "I'm not that comfortable going out fishing anymore. I don't mind going out in the boat and mucking about in the boat and doing other things perhaps but I might not put out the line and catch a fish and eat it anymore." Now can you see straight away my change in belief is going to confront my friends somehow? (00:25:16)

Now again our friendship could easily be maintained, quite simply, by our friends feeling, "That's fine; you're allowed to not eat meat, you're allowed to choose to not to catch meat any more. We still think you're a man even though you don't want to do those things." (Laughter) And they could be very accepting, and if that's the case then our relationship could be maintained, could it not? However, most of the time we have emotional reasons why we're doing things; we have emotional reasons why we go out fishing and we have an emotional reason why we want to eat the meat. We have an emotional reason why we want to do all of those things and some of it is about my definition of, "What is a man". Like, "Real men do these things." In fact even the beer ads say it, do they not, that real men do these things? So I've got my group of male friends who think that real men do these things. I'm not eating meat and they think, "He's not a real man anymore, I don't know how that happened. I just checked the gear - it's there!" (Laughter) But for some reason all of a sudden just because I'm not going out catching fish anymore, I'm not a real man. (00:26:25)

Now, me just addressing this one emotion inside myself that's harmonious with Divine Truth is going to automatically confront those friendships, can you see that? Now it doesn't have to, the truth is it doesn't have to if all of us were accepting of each other's desire to do whatever we want to do in our life, then it doesn't have to confront those friendships. But the problem is most the time is when I stop doing something that another person is doing the other person automatically feels judged. Have you noticed that even with yourself? Sometimes your friend stops doing something and you automatically feel judged and that you should somehow stop doing it now. This is a common problem that we have. So what happens is our friends start dropping off because we are no longer accepting of each other's choices; in the end that's what it's about. (00:27:20)

We can lose friends when we change our belief systems and the friends get confronted

So as I'm growing towards Divine Truth, I'm now maybe starting to attract different friends, but there's this period in between where I'm not attracting the new friends and the old friends don't want to see me anymore, and that's a very confronting place, isn't it? Because you end up feeling, "Wow if I keep doing this I'll have no friends," which is not the truth by the way, but it is a truth that we believe. So what that does is it puts huge emotional pressure on me as an individual. So now not only am I getting my emotional pressure from my family to not do these changes that I'm feeling like I want to do, but I'm also now getting this emotional pressure from my friends to not do what I'm wanting to do. Now it doesn't have to be that way but unfortunately often it turns out that way. (00:28:20)

Now I also then start having my family and friends saying, "See; you're in a cult. Nobody wants to spend any time with you anymore and that's proof that you're in a cult." And you know that all cults say...? What do cults say? I don't even know! Something like, what a cult leader does is he tries to disassociate you from your family and what a cult leader does he tries to disassociate you from your friends. (00:28:50)

Now when you got through it all emotionally and personally, you feel that your friends disassociated from you, not the other way around. Often if feels that way, but they then claim back to you that, "Yes, see this is proof that you are in a cult now because they are saying we're the problem." Well, no, what I'm saying is any person who doesn't accept the choices of that individual is obviously at some point going to project negatively at the individual. That is a truth, is it not? And all I need to do is come to accept it and we can remain friends all we like. Just like I accept you doing what you want to do, even if it may not be harmonious with Divine Truth or Divine Love, and you'll accept me doing what I want to do, even though it's not harmonious. When I want you to do what I want, then we might have a problem, or when you want me to do what you want, then we might have a problem. It's only when we want each other to do what we want, that's when we start having the problem.

Many of you have done this by the way on the Divine Love Path (and you weren't on the Divine Love Path when you were doing it) with your friends when you say, "I'm learning all this new truth. It's so wonderful, I'm so happy about it." And what's one of the first things you start doing? Talking about it with others. But you don't just talk about it with others; you expect them to feel the same joy at finding the same truth that you had. That's going to damage your relationship with these people because every time you expect something, you're actually being unloving right at that moment. (00:30:30)

So what do we do, we're in a relationship with our partner and all of a sudden I feel all this joy about discovering Divine Love and Divine Truth and our partner's not interested, so what do I do? I give him the heavies, I heavy him into being interested. I'm straight out of harmony with love myself now, but do you think our relationship's going to survive this? Not very well if I continue doing it because I'm not in the space of love myself. Often it's because of our own enthusiasm but working with some of our emotions, and some of our emotions are, "I can't do this alone, I need you to do this with me.' That's one of our emotions.

So I start having feelings towards God and my partner is an atheist, how does this work now? It will work fine as long as I don't expect him to have feelings about God. But oftentimes what happens is I start talking about God a bit more and he starts saying, "Will you shut up about God, I get sick of hearing it." And before you know it I'm getting shut down some of the time. And I'm trying to shut him down some of the time too about his stuff, and of course that's going to break the relationship down. As long as we're both open and accepting of each other's beliefs, we're going to be fine, but oftentimes we're not, that's what causes the problem. (00:31:53)

3.3. Spirits

Alright, so what's the third main influence? I would actually put this third influence as the number one effect on you. Does that give you an idea? Here's you (writing on whiteboard) and surrounding you at any one time there can be literally tens or even hundreds of spirits in different conditions. They're surrounding you because of the emotions coming from you that they feel attracted to. (00:32:43)

Spirits in different conditions affect our progression

Now some of those emotions are a desire for truth, and if that's the case you'll attract a spirit who's in a brighter condition to you. But other ones of those emotions are not so nice. Some of the emotions I feel are like, "I want to be angry with men," so every male spirit who feels that's unfair is going to feel, "I want to get into him about that." And every woman who feels like, "That's good; you've got to be angry with men," they're going to be attracted to me as well. And so at any one point in time in my life, I am in this space where I'm literally surrounded by a group of people, many of whom I do not know and have never met, but who have very, very strong unresolved emotional issues that are exactly the same as my own. Now, that is going to be a powerful effect on what happens to me in my progression. (00:33:50)

Now what happens on the Divine Love Path with regard to our progression is we often start feeling this family influence occurring in our lives, and we start seeing this friend influence occurring in our lives, but we're totally unaware in many occasions of the spirit influence in our lives, and that happens to be our strongest influence in many cases, because of the Law of Attraction in operation. (00:34:18)

Now when we're in the spirit world, we are a spirit, so I can't be influenced by people I can't see very easily unless they're in a better condition to me, but here on Earth I can be influenced by spirits whether they are in a better condition than me or in a much worse condition than me, and I can be influenced either way. And the subject of my discussion with you today is how to deal with that influence. (00:34:52)

4. The emotional basis of spirit influence

So we've talked about the family and we'll talk about friends at some point, but we want to focus now on the influence of spirits in our lives. By the way there are some very good books that we can read on this subject that illustrate the influence of spirits in your life very powerfully, and I'll list those at the end of the discussion. So let's call this discussion "Spirit Relationships – Coping with Spirit Influence."

Tomorrow, by the way, I'm going to expand this discussion into how to recognise possession and obsession with spirits, in the talk "Spirit Relationships - Possession and Obsession", because they're very, very linked subjects. (00:36:08)

To understand how these spirits influence us, we still need to understand emotions and we need to understand what's going on inside of us very deeply. So here we are (writing on whiteboard), here's our mummy and our daddy and then here's the newborn child. At the moment that I'm conceived, I begin absorbing, from my environment, the emotional condition and therefore the belief systems and everything of the environment, which primarily are my family. So they influence me. (00:37:00)

Parents' emotions and beliefs start influencing a child as soon as it is conceived

Now let's look at what's happening from an energetic, metaphysical level rather than an emotional one. It would be far better, by the way, for you to understand it from an emotional perspective than a metaphysical, but sometimes when we see the metaphysical thing going on, we start to understand what's actually happening. (00:37:17)

My mother has a spirit body and she also has a soul so let's draw her soul as a circle (writing on whiteboard) surrounding her. And my father has a spirit body and a soul so let's draw his soul surrounding him. Now they are both halves of a soul, they may not be soulmates or they may be; it doesn't really matter. They both are halves of a soul and they have their soul. The soul is illuminating all of this energy; this energy comes out of the soul and the soul actually controls what actually happens to the spirit form. The spirit form then controls what happens to the physical body. So many of the diseases you can catch are resulting around energetic disturbances in your spirit body, as you well know.

Our parents' souls affect their spirit and physical bodies

But let's look at what's happening at a soul level. At the soul level what's happening is I have got different disharmonies and harmonies within me. The harmonies, when I say harmonies I'm talking about the things that are harmonious with God's Laws of Love and then there are different emotions in me that are totally disharmonious with God's Laws of Love. So we've got these truth based emotions, which are harmonious with love, and we've got these error based emotions that are still within me and I believe to be true, which are disharmonious with Love. So we've got these influences of truth and error upon my soul. This is everyone; not just me but everyone around me too. (00:38:54)

The souls of our parents have a mixture of truth and error within them

4.1. Emotions that are harmonious with Divine Truth provide protection

The way God created you is very, very clever. Every single thing that's harmonious with love that you have inside of you as an emotion automatically protects you and every single thing that you have that's disharmonious with love inside of you as an emotion automatically makes you vulnerable to external attack. I'm talking about God's Truth here with Divine Truth, and remember that everything that's inside of your soul is an emotion. So truth is an emotion inside of you. So everything that's harmonious with Divine Truth and Divine Love inside of you automatically protects you from any harm from the external environment, this is one of the key things to understand. You see many of us don't even believe this. Let's face it, many of us believe the total opposite, but we'll confront those emotions as we go. (00:40:14)

Any harmony with Divine Truth inside of my soul automatically offers me protection, and any disharmony with love or truth automatically opens me up to attack. So in other words, what's the opposite of protection? Let's call it danger, exposure.

Harmony with truth provides protection; disharmony with truth creates vulnerability to attack, or danger

So, God created this system for a lot of reasons. One of the primary ones is that because of the pain we feel because of the danger, we can automatically understand, once we understand the law, that actually if I'm in pain and I feel danger then it's because I'm vulnerable, and it's because I've got a belief that's out of harmony with truth. The beauty of it is, in the end, when you release all of your disharmony with Divine Truth inside of yourself, at that point in time you are also now completely fearless because there's nothing that could ever make you afraid, because you are now fully protected. It's not a thought, it's not something you manufacture by surrounding yourself with white light or anything like that, it's this emotion in you that you now know for certain that there's nothing that can harm you. And the truth is in that moment; there is nothing that can harm you if you're in that state where everything is harmonious with Divine Love. (00:42:20)

And what happens from a metaphysical perspective, is you can think of the emotions that are harmonious with Divine Truth and Love as this great big barrier of beautiful white light that emanates from your own soul and surrounds your person and when it's completely harmonious with Divine Love, all of it, there will be no holes or cracks in that protective barrier. But what happens is the majority of us start off with a lot of error, because of the emotions that we get bombarded with from the environment from the time we're conceived. And instead of having this nice smooth very thick wall of protection where nothing can actually permeate through it and harm us emotionally (and by the way, it's actually the way you feel, it is not like a wall of protection, because you're totally open to everything but none of it affects you), what happens is we've got great big gaping holes in this wall of protection, where energy can enter us from outside of us from our environment, instead of this nice great big barrier surrounding our soul.

Errors create large holes in the protective barrier of our soul

When you're in the soul state and in the spirit state in the higher levels of the spirit world you actually see the fissures and cracks in the person's body and you know what emotions are associated with those fissures and cracks in the body. And one of the main reasons why many of the spirits in the lower spheres up until the seventh decide to progress is because they see their own cracks in their own bodies in the mirror, and they can see how ugly that is, and so they desire to progress. (00:44:36)

Now all these fissures and cracks are in our emotional state. So let's say that the lady now has got all of these places where she's vulnerable to attack, not just physically, although when I say vulnerable these events will confront her emotionally so that she can seal up one of those holes; that's the purpose of it. (00:45:11)

Now you imagine two parents, where both of them have got all of these areas that are unhealed within them, but there are different areas that are unhealed within each of them emotionally. So for a child that's been conceived, mum has got a lot of unhealed emotions and therefore a lot of cracks and holes in her energetic system emotionally, and dad is unhealed emotionally and he's got lots of cracks and holes in his system emotionally. Of course the child is going to have almost a combination of those two; the child is going to have quite a lot of different areas in its spirit form. (00:46:36)

4.1.1. An example of sexual injuries

Now what I'm going to do is just illustrate a couple of those areas. Mum may have an emotion where she or some of her predecessors have been raped by a man, or abused sexually by a male that she has yet to heal inside of herself emotionally. So there are some sexual things going on for mum. Dad may have a feeling that he's a man and he can get sex whenever he wants, so that's his unhealed emotion that's inside of him. What's going to be inside of the child? It's going to be a bit of a mess isn't it when it comes to sexuality, can you see that? There's going to be quite a number of different holes in there. (00:47:27)

Let's say mum was actually sexually abused when she was older and let's say dad has the viewpoint that women are there for a man's pleasure, and I'm a girl growing up in that environment. Can you see I'm going to have lots of different holes and cracks in my protective shield that's around me? (00:48:17)

The daughter of parents with sexual injuries will have a combination of sexual injuries that create holes in her protective barrier

Now my mum may be dedicated a hundred percent to protecting me sexually because of her own abusive experience, but she's not going to be able to protect me from spirits abusing me sexually. Until both these parents heal those emotions, the child can't be protected spiritually from those events and the only persons that can help you are some guides or guardian of this child. So they are the only people who are in the mix trying to protect the child. But it's very, very hard to protect somebody who's got all of these gaps in their own armour. (00:49:02)

Only guides or guardians can attempt to protect a child from sexual abuse from spirits if the child has holes in their armour

4.2. Spirit attack is one of the biggest problems that we face in our progression

Now in the Bible, for those of you who have a Christian background, the apostle Paul called this barrier that surrounds you your suit of armour. And really in a way that's what it is, it's your protection from external things going on. He actually said in one of his presentations, I think it was the Ephesians congregation, (many of you are challenged by my bringing up the bible) that one of the biggest problems that you will ever face in your progression on the Divine Love Path is spiritual attack. Now the reason why is quite simple - you can't see them. When a person on Earth comes up and attacks you, you can see them can't you and in many cases you can put distance between you and them. So in many cases you can get away from it - not in every case but in many cases. So you have a method of physically acting in order to get away from the attack. But when it comes to the spirits influencing you, what methods do you have available to you? You can't avoid them. They are able to travel wherever you go; they are able to see whatever you do. (00:51:07)

Participant: How influential are spirits over us when we're sleeping?

Well, the influence that a spirit has over us when we're sleeping is not to do with our physical body so much as to do with what's inside of our soul, and this is what I'm trying to get at in the end. That in the end, it's the barriers, or the lack of barriers, that we have that creates vulnerability to attack, or vulnerability to influencing spirits, and that will occur whether we're awake or asleep.

Now we're starting to get influenced by spirits, because there's quite a lot of spirits who don't want to hear any of this. (The sound system is getting very noisy). We're going to have to bear with some of this because there are some spirits who don't want you to hear any of this, so we're just going to have to put up with some of that. It's interesting that it begins when you start talking about these things. (00:53:09)

5. Spirits influence us through our unhealed emotions

This is such an important thing for you to understand, I feel, because if you don't understand how you're getting influenced by spirits, you're going to so easily hook into how they influence you that you won't even know it's happening. The way they hook into influencing you is through your unhealed emotions that you have; that is a primary way of how they hook into you. (00:53:37)

So let's have a look at what's going on from a spiritual point of view. From a spiritual point of view, I now, because of my vulnerability, because I have errors in my soul, am not afforded the protection that I could be if I had less errors within my soul. Now it's not my fault that I have those errors in many cases because many of the errors were created through my parents and my environment and everything growing up, but there are a number of things I can actually do to plug up these holes until my soul is able to provide the barrier. (00:54:21)

So there's all these holes around me (writing on whiteboard) and this is the barrier that would normally be there if I was afforded full protection by my being in a complete state of love and a complete state of truth, totally harmonious with Divine Truth. That would be the barrier that would be there; I would be perfectly protected from my environment.

With no emotional injuries we would have a complete barrier surrounding us

I could walk through my life without a single fear. And by the way this is not an intellectual state; I'm saying that you will actually get to a point, once you're at this point, where you'll literally have no fear about anything in your life, at all.

Participant: AJ are you talking about at-onement there, or just being in a complete state of love?

This state occurs when you're in at-onement with God. Until you're in at-onement with God, you may actually be in a natural love state of completion. It would be very, very hard for any spirit to influence you in that state as well, with the exception of your beliefs about God. So what I'm talking about is the completed state where nobody can influence you about anything at all, and in that state you would have to be at-one with God. (00:56:00)

Now the problem is that the majority of us, of course, are not yet there so the majority of us have all these fissures and cracks where there are energetic disturbances in our spirit body as a result.

The majority of us have emotional errors and therefore many fissures and cracks through which we can be influenced

Therefore there are all these places that are holes in our barrier; there are just holes there where anybody can get in under certain circumstances. Anybody. Someone on Earth or in the spirit world can get in and affect me emotionally under certain specific circumstances. (00:56:36)

So what we want to do is we want to have some way of actually protecting ourselves while we are in the process of development, because if we can't protect ourselves while we are in the process of development, there are all sorts of things that can happen. For example, as I'm starting to receive Divine Love in my soul, automatically my spirit body becomes brighter. Now if you're a spirit and you're in quite a dark place and you're hovering around the Earth, what kind of people are you going to be attracted to? You'd go to the brighter ones and ask, "Why is he bright? I'm not bright. He's bright, what's going on?"

5.1. An example of rage towards mum

But in most cases if you're in a dark condition you won't go, "What's going on?" you'll go, "I want him to be where I am. I want him to go back to being dark again." Because as a spirit, I'll have huge amounts of jealousy of someone being brighter, huge amounts of problems with why they are brighter. Then I'll look at them and I'll think, "I can easily affect that. I can see there's this little rage there that's about their mother; I can affect that. That's really easy to affect. All I've got to do is pop a few thoughts into their mind... " and the person's going to be open to those thoughts because they have a rage towards their mother, which automatically makes them unprotected in this area where they can now have thoughts popped into their mind to prompt their rage towards their mother. (00:58:14)

So if I've got inside of me a rage towards mum, which obviously covers some fears about my own emotional state, which obviously covers a lot of grief about mum and my relationship with her, what will happen is that now creates a state where I am now totally open to influence on that subject. And I can be influenced by any person on Earth on that subject and I can be influenced by any spirit. My mind will be unprotected on this subject, because of the emotion inside of me that doesn't afford me protection, and so I have a feeling in my heart that I have a justified anger towards my mother. That justified anger or rage towards my mother will automatically make me vulnerable to a spirit who's also angry with their mother, or who wants to manipulate me or control me in some way in that regard in my relationship with women, and that spirit will be able to connect through those thoughts quite easily because I'm unprotected in that area. (00:59:34)

If we have rage, fear and grief inside of us that create holes in our barrier, spirits can easily drop thoughts into our minds on that subject

So what does he do? The spirit drops into my mind, "All women are bitches," and that triggers this emotion in me of me being angry with my mother, and then I start acting out. He might just drop in, '"They're all bitches. Just use them - you can use them. That's what they're doing to you anyway." So he just starts dropping these thoughts in. And you might be walking along the street and all of a sudden drawn to look at a woman and the feeling is, "I want to have sex with her." That can be dropped in by that same spirit in exactly the same way, through this emotion of anger and feeling certain feelings towards women. And to be frank with you, all of us are like this melting pond if you like; we are, inside of ourselves, able to have any of these thoughts dropped into us at any point in time based on what my unhealed emotional condition is at that time. (01:00:44)

5.2. Many of our thoughts come from spirits

Participant: They've often talked to me in my own voice; they mimic a set of events that perhaps resonate with a memory that may or may not be true about my life, and talk to me in my own voice and so I can't tell the difference at times. (01:01:06)

The truth for many of us is that we think we can't hear spirits; the majority of us feel that we can't. But the truth is that you're actually hearing spirits half your life. You just don't know yet what thought is your own and what thoughts are theirs because their thoughts are so much in harmony with your own, and the reason why is because of the emotional injuries that are there. (01:01:32)

5.3. Spirits can shut us down emotionally through our hooks into them, which are often unrelated to the emotion we're processing

Participant: AJ the most difficult thing I find is that I'm in the middle of a process and then I feel them coming in, wanting to shut me down, and that's when I get really frustrated with the path and with God and my guides and everything. I'm trying to do the right thing like I'm busting my arse here and I'm just getting hassled.

Many of you who have a deep and quite open mediumistic connection, which you do have, Alex, find this a really frustrating place, but you're not being honest with yourself actually. When a spirit comes in to influence you, they're coming in to influence you because of a hook that you have to that influence. The key is to find that hook to the influence. Now the hook to the influence isn't usually about the same thing you're processing. Now I'm going to illustrate that with you. Let's say you have a belief that men who are older than you should always be listened to.

Participant: The example that you used before, that was just me.

Okay what was that?

Participant: The one about all women are bitches, walking down the road and projecting at women.

5.3.1. An example of a man who sexually projects at women being influenced by male spirits

Okay, so let's look at that. So you've got some male spirits, you know they are male, and when you're starting to try processing emotions about your sexual interest in women, these men are basically there trying to influence you in the opposite direction, is that correct?

Spirits can influence a person processing emotions because of their hooks into the spirit

Okay. Now what's their hook? They have a hook into you. Now they are perfectly happy to influence you in this opposite direction, disharmonious with love, but what you've got to find is why do you want to follow them? Because otherwise you wouldn't follow them; they wouldn't even be able to influence you unless you wanted to follow them. There's got to be a reason why you want to follow them. (01:03:48)

Now oftentimes the reason why you follow them has got nothing to do with the emotion you're processing, and in fact it's got something to do with something totally different and what I wanted to do is illustrate this. What are your feelings towards older angry men? What do you feel about an angry man? What are your feelings when you're with an angry man?

Participant: I don't know. I would have to feel into it. Well initially I've always projected greater anger back.

Okay, why would you do that?

Participant: Because I'm obviously fearful.

Okay, so you're obviously afraid of them. What are you afraid of? You're afraid of them getting violent with you perhaps? So you're afraid of these men getting violent with you so what you want to do is get violent back first, to protect yourself. But obviously there are some fears in there from men being violent towards you. What do you feel about spirits who are violent? How do you feel about that, what's your fear there? Can you see you've got some fears there? Would you like to have a nice friendly spirit around you or would you like to have an angry spirit around you? Which one would you prefer? (01:05:06)

Participant: Obviously the nice one that's friendly.

Okay, you know how you make them nice and friendly? You do whatever they want. You know this, right? Why does somebody get angry with you? Because they want to control you. When they get angry with you and you finish up feeling afraid, what do you finish up doing eventually? You finish up doing exactly what they want. What does that do? It makes them happy. How do you keep somebody happy? You do exactly what they want.

How many of us have done that in our lives? How do you make mum and dad happy? You do exactly what they want. How do you make your friends happy? You do exactly what they want. That's what you do, isn't it? Obviously there might be other emotions that you've never been good enough, and all those kinds of things, but from a spirit perspective, what's actually happening is this. This spirit with you knows that you want a happy coexistence with him. He also knows that you have an injury where if he projects anger at you that you'll have a tendency to want do what he wants. He also knows that you have an injury with regard to women, and having to look at women, because it gives you an emotion inside of yourself that's unhealed. He also has the same emotion, where he also feels he can project at women and wants to have sexual interactions with women on the same basis. But his hook into you is that he knows you're going to be afraid of him if he gets nasty with you. Do you follow me? (01:06:51)

Participant: Yes I've been processing a lot of fears of spirits and that sort of stuff. Is that the way to go?

That's the way to go because what's happening is the more you get rid of with regard to why you're afraid of him, you'll start not doing what he wants anymore. He's telling you to do something that you intellectually know at least that you don't want to do, but you feel drawn to do it, not because of the women and how pretty or beautiful they are, but because you're afraid of this man getting nasty with you. (01:07:27)

5.4. Our relationships with spirits are similar to our relationships with people on Earth

If you can imagine it a little differently; you're walking along with a group of male friends, all football types let's say, and this is not to categorise any of them, but they're big burly fellows, quite forthright and connected with their bodies and so forth, and you're walking along with a group of them. Now many of those men would ogle the woman as they walk pass and totally justify that, would they not? So they go, "Oh hey look at her, hasn't she got... " I won't repeat what they might say because a lot of it would be quite terrible to say really, but they are saying all of that and then they may even say it loud enough for the woman to hear, mightn't they? (01:08:09)

Now there's this group of men and let's say now, for a moment, they're all spirits still walking along with you. Now the only way that I'm going to be drawn into the same conduct as what they are exhibiting is by wanting approval from them. If I had a feeling inside of me, "No, no actually this is wrong to talk to this woman this way," there would also then be the opposite feeling of, "But what about my mates, what are they going to feel about me if I don't do it?" (01:08:47)

So if we were all on Earth walking along, all of a sudden I'm the only male out of a group of five males who's not ogling the woman, what's going to happen now? Now I'm getting a lot of projection from these four other guys that I'm not towing the line. And they ask what's wrong with me: "Are you gay or something? Why aren't you interested in projecting at the woman?" You'll get a lot of banter, which is obviously projection and it's control. (01:09:18)

And so what's happening, if we're all mates on Earth, is that the only way that I will conform to their behaviour if I disagree with it inside of myself is because I have an emotional hook into their approval. And it's exactly the same with our interactions with spirits. See most of the time in our interactions with spirits, we are seeking their approval and the only way that we can get approval is to do the same thing they do, or want us to do. (01:09:57)

Now if I have an emotional injury inside of myself where I don't have a firmness for truth that's built inside of me, I now have a hole; I now have an area that's open inside of myself that allows me to be influenced. I am now vulnerable to attack and the way I'm vulnerable to attack is that all somebody external to me needs to do is imply whatever the attack point is, and I'll automatically feel like I have to do what they want, even though inside of myself I don't feel it's right, I will still go and do it and this is happening to us with spirits and people on Earth all of the time if you think about it.

What's happening on Earth and with spirits is that oftentimes we go down a course of action not because we agree with it but because we want the emotional approval of our family, our friends or the biggest thing I'm saying is, the spirits around you, to do it. (01:11:18)

5.4.1. An example of a spirit influencing a person who is afraid to ask a question

Participant: Can spirits have the influence on your body? Before I wanted to ask a question and then I kicked into the fear of, "No one wants to hear me, all that sort of thing," and I instantly got a sore throat. So is that my reaction to my negative emotion or can that be spirit influence shutting me down there?

Well the fact is that you feel afraid to speak so that automatically begins to shut down your throat, but a spirit can now quite easily hook into that because of the fears that you have. So if the spirit doesn't want you to say what you wanted to say, all they have to do now is connect to you by this fear you have of saying it in front of maybe an audience or whatever it is. What is the fear? (01:12:01)

Participant: Fear of humiliation and not being understood. There are quite a few.

Okay so they'll just say, "You might get humiliated, you might get humiliated." They just drop that thought into your mind, "You might get humiliated," and now you're in a state where, "I don't want to say anything because I might get humiliated," and that's their hook into you. The hook into you is often very, very different than the actual action you take. They're often very different; the emotional hook into you and the action you take. (01:12:30)

5.5. We often allow spirits to influence us in order to gain approval and avoid attack

When you look at what's happening on Earth you can see this very readily as well really. Why do you want to conform to what your family says for you to do? Isn't it because you don't want to lose your family? Isn't that the logical reason? "I don't want to lose my family so I feel like I must do what my family says." Isn't it the same with your friends? "I don't want to lose my friends so I've got to do what they say." (01:12:54)

Now it's exactly the same with spirits. "I don't want to lose these spirits around me. I'm going to do exactly what they say," and there's always some emotional hook that you have into them. It's very important to understand that.

5.5.1. An example of a male spirit influencing a woman

Participant: AJ I understand how you can have a need to please your mum or your friends but I'm struggling to understand how you would have a need to please a spirit when you can't see them. How can you identify what that need is?

Well actually, you'll be surprised. It's actually quite easy. What is this spirit able to do to you if you don't do what he wants? What would you do if you were a spirit?

Participant: Move an object.

It could go that far, where somebody does move an object. By the way many people in their childhood, in their years of growing up, have seen their own family members being thrown against a wall for example, now that's pretty scary right? This has happened; it's an extreme but it happens. (01:14:10)

Participant: Could they put dark thoughts into your head?

Of course, any that you are open to receiving. Now let's say you do everything the spirit wants so that he won't tell you you're a terrible woman. Shall I use some worse words than that? Please don't think this is personal but you do what he wants so he won't tell, "You're a cow and a bitch." Let's say that's the underlying emotional feeling you have inside of yourself towards yourself, which somebody has probably told you when you were young. He'll be nice and friendly to you until such a point in time that you're not doing what he wants anymore, and from then on he's going to just hammer you about being a cow and a bitch; he can drive you totally insane with that thought. (01:15:01)

Participant: So these will sometimes feel like my own thoughts about myself?

They will feel like your own thoughts because the unprotected emotion comes from yourself that agrees with the statement coming at you. They will feel exactly like your own thoughts and so he can say, "I'm a cow and a bitch, I'm a cow and a bitch, I'm a cow and a bitch," to you constantly. You're feeling that it's coming from you, "Oh I've got to deal with this unworthy emotion," which you certainly have to deal with, but it's the unworthy emotion that creates that hole that allows him to drop these thoughts into your mind all the time. And he can drive you barmy with it until you deal with the emotion. But does he want you to deal with the emotion? No; he wants you just to get into a state of doing whatever he wants, which might be, "I'm a cow and a bitch unless I have sex with that man. Argh! I feel guilty about how I've treated that man." And before you know it, you're in bed with the man you felt guilty about and you didn't even want to be there. (01:16:01)

How many of us have done things like that where we drank too much and found ourselves in bed with somebody we didn't want to be in bed with? It all happens because of the emotional hook we have into the spirit who's driving a lot of our actions in order to get their stuff sorted, in order to actually live in their stuff. (01:16:32)

6. Never compromising truth offers protection from spirit influence

Participant: Is this what underlies so many people's desire for peace in their communications with others, peace on the internet forum, peace in their family, or peace in their own head or just peace in general?

Yes of course. Your desire for peace inside and outside of yourself externally can cause you to make many compromises and what's going to protect you, is to never compromise the truth. Can you see what's going to protect you?

So let's list that as one of the protections. Remember I said I was going list for you ways that you can protect yourself against this kind of attack. One way is to never compromise truth, no matter how terrified you are about doing the opposite thing.

Now if that happens inside of you where you get to a point where you never compromise truth no matter what happens, can a spirit hook into you compromising truth to suit another emotion inside of yourself? He can't. So let's say you're terrified. I'm terrified about speaking the truth. If I never compromise the truth, I will allow myself to be terrified and be even shaking and still say the truth. But if I'm not in that place, now a spirit can go, "I've got a hook into that person." What's the hook? "Under certain circumstances that person is never going to tell the truth. Let's try to attempt to create those certain circumstances." So they never get to tell the truth. If you get to a place where you release all of that emotionally, you'll get closer to God; they don't want you closer to God, they want you to do is in this other place.

6.1. Our addictions can create thoughts that are disharmonious with truth but we believe to be harmonious with truth

Participant: AJ something I've been having lately is just every once in a while I'll be doing something and then a thought will come in that will be not in harmony with truth that I identify and I go, "Hello, how are you? Bye!" I just say no because I identify it as a not in harmony with truth.

The problem that we have though is because of our addictions, there are many thoughts that we believe are harmonious with truth but they're not and that's our biggest point of vulnerability. Just for example, many of us have this belief that love can expect yourself to be treated well. We have this belief inside of us. I expect the person who loves me to treat me well. (01:19:31)

Now I've said in the past that an expectation is unloving, so actually me telling myself that I can expect others to treat me lovingly is an untruth that I believe to be true. Now a spirit can easily hook into that one. All they do is they get somebody to treat me not very well or not well. In other words just ignore me. So how does that happen? I'll be walking down the street, AJ's on the opposite side of the street and he doesn't even notice I'm there and I look at him and he seems to look straight past me. How did that happen? "He's just ignoring me. He doesn't love me, he's just ignoring me," and straight away thoughts drop in bang, bang, bang and before you know it I'm in a rage with the person across the street who probably never even saw me. And if it was me without my glasses on, I might have looked straight at you and never saw you, but we don't consider those things of course because we've got this connection into that emotion. That's the issue that we face; many of the belief systems that we have and many of the actions we take are unloving and we think they are loving, and the spirits know they're not loving and they can easily manipulate and control that. (01:20:51)

So this is where when I say never compromise truth, let's just put it in brackets Divine Truth, in other words never compromise the truth from God's perspective.

What would God want me to do in this situation? Now a lot of people say to me, "I don't know what God wants," and to be frank with you that's often crap. Often you do know what is the loving thing to do in any circumstance or situation and we often make a purposeful choice not to do it because of some compromise that we're making inside of ourselves emotionally. That's why we do that. So often we finish up compromising the truth.

Now in Paul's words in the scriptures that I was talking about, he called it the "Loins girded with Truth". Why do you think he called it the loins girded with truth? It's interesting associating truth with this part of our body, isn't it?

And obviously one of the biggest areas where we are untruthful with ourselves is regard to our sexual response and sexuality and it's also one of the biggest areas that we can be influenced in by spirits in a negative way. So that's just something to bear in mind. (01:22:27)

6.2. Many people distort the truth or are afraid of truth

Participant: Can a spirit manipulate you with truth; tell you truths like nine truths and then the tenth to lead you along the way? And the tenth truth is like the icing on the cake that's totally false. Can they manipulate you with truth?

Of course, just like many people on Earth do, do they not? Many people on Earth are masters at distorting the truth for their own benefit, where you get a whole series of things told to you and it all seems true. But many of you have actually been victims of this where if you've looked at the internet forums discussing myself and my life and what I've said, because often there's very, very large gaps missed out of interactions and emotions and other things that have gone on in those persons. These very, very large gaps are missed out because what we're so used to doing is just presenting a little bit of truth here, a little bit of truth there and then we start creating in the other person's mind that actually we're telling all the truth, when in reality we've left out these huge gaps that we can now use to manipulate the person if they trust us. And this is the thing is that at some point we're going to have to learn, to never compromise the truth, but the majority of us on this planet have learnt from the time we are little children to compromise truth, have we not? Let's be honest.

How many of us when we were children were yelled at when asked a question about the truth? "Did you do that or not?" You've got this great big person who's three or four times the size of you bearing over you, yelling at you to tell them the truth, and what would you do? Under those circumstances it's very unlikely you're going to tell them the truth isn't it? Particularly if you know the truth is just going to make them even more angry and upset. Of course you wouldn't. You see this is why we're so easily lied to and so easily lie as a result of that; because we're so afraid; we are petrified of truth on the planet, to be frank. We don't want to hear the truth. (01:24:50)

How many times have you heard me speak the truth to somebody and straight away they're angry with me for the next ten weeks? You've seen it happen all the time, right? We've had thousands of people come to these sessions, but literally thousands of them are not coming any more. Why is that? Because a lot of times they don't want to hear the truth. They're okay with external truth but even then a lot of times we're not, are we? (01:25:22)

For instance I've talked about the truth of abortion; now that's really confronting, isn't it? It's very confronting, and if I don't want to face the emotion of that, I'm going to be so confronted with that. Now it's not a judgement, it's just a truth. But we often see truth and judgement in exactly the same place, at exactly the same time, and so what we finish up doing is we think, "AJ's judging me again. I'm sick of being judged all the time," and rather than dealing with the emotions we go off because we're being judged again. We're so used to doing that so that we can get away from the truth; we do this all the time and so many times we actually inhibit our own progress because of truth. So, yes, a spirit can manipulate the truth just like any person here on the Earth can manipulate the truth for you. (01:28:15)

6.3. An example of spirits using Divine Love Path terminology to manipulate people on Earth

So if I'm a spirit, one of the easiest ways to manipulate a person who's a mediumistic person on the Divine Love Path, is to go to any book that talks about the Divine Love Path or the Padgett Messages. I can pick up the book (and by the way I can do this as a spirit; I can read through that entire book in a matter of seconds) and I go, "Okay, Nina loves the Divine Truth, Nina's also a medium, so she's talking to spirits who she believes are on the Divine Love Path. I'm a nasty spirit I can see some emotions in Nina that she wants to do this, she wants to do that, she's got some unhealed things here and there. All I need to do now is get this book, re-read it, look at all the terminology. Oh yeah, the terminology is quite easy to understand."

So for instance, how many of you understand what a bit, or a byte, is? Or a processor, or all those kinds of things? These are all computer terms that you've learnt and you can now converse. How many of you actually know what one is, or has seen one? (Laughter) Very few of you, but you think you know what it is because we've just learnt the terms. We've just learned the terminology; we fit in. (01:27:34)

Okay, so I'm a spirit: "All these people here on the Divine Love Path. Quite a few here are developing their mediumship now. This is going to be easy, all I do is I read all the material... right now I'm totally versed on the Divine Love Path from an intellectual point. I might be in the hells, but I know what to say." And then all the spirit needs to do is say, "Nina you're doing so well on the Divine Love Path, isn't it lovely," and I start channelling all this lovely information and Nina's starting to feel really good, "Wow, I really thought I was doing bad, but I'm doing quite good obviously now, the spirits are telling me. Isn't this wonderful?" And I get some more stuff and feel, "Isn't it wonderful? This is really good, this is a really awesome channelling." And I'm channelling a first sphere spirit who has nothing to do with the Divine Love Path. All they're doing is trying to connect with me so they can manipulate some of my other emotions. And if I can't feel the spirit, how am I going to know? I'm not; I'm not going to know. (01:28:37)

So that spirit can come along and after about three or four months, and say, "Ah, you're listening to AJ. Interesting. She's got some man issues as well, okay we can easily now influence Nina into dealing with some of her man issues by getting her angry with AJ." And all AJ's got to do today is to drop a bit of truth here and there and bang, the spirit says. "He's out of harmony with Divine Love," and the spirits start having a go now at Nina about AJ being out of harmony with Divine Love: "You can't trust him. You can't do this and you can't do that." (01:29:09)

By the way would any Divine Love spirits start saying these kinds of things to you? Probably not, but by now we're so hooked into the interaction with them that we don't think of that. And we're in the emotion of anger too inside of ourselves towards the person, so it's very, very hard for me now to get out of that. And so now what's happening is I'm being influenced off the path that I think I'm following by my connection with this spirit through some unhealed emotions. That's what is happening. (01:29:43)

This happens all the time on Earth, and the reason why it happens is, as I said at the beginning, you can't see who you're talking to, you can only feel who you're talking to. And if the feelings of who you're talking to match your own feelings very closely, you're going to think it's quite good. And if those feelings happen to be rage towards men, rage towards women, anger towards God, whatever other emotions that are unhealed inside of you, you're obviously going to be very open to influence and it's so easy to influence you. (01:30:25)

6.4. Spirits can influence us because they can see our emotional condition

To be frank with you, if I wanted to influence you it would be so easy to influence you, because the more somebody knows about your emotional condition and can feel from you about your emotional condition, if they have a malevolent attitude towards you, an attitude where they want to harm you, they can very easily influence you. The fortunate thing for you, in many cases, is that the spirits who are in the position where they do understand you emotionally are also in a position of love and they don't want to harm you with it. (01:30:59)

The spirits who want to harm you, all they do is they look at your body and they see the different colours, a lot of times not even understanding what they are, but they know the colour that attracts their colour to them. Remember everything from a metaphysical point of view is like a pipe that connects you with them, and so they feel this connection like a pipe between you and this spirit. And they can see that pipe; you can't, but they can. They know that they have a connection with you that they can influence and they don't care how they influence it. Now some of them are more intelligent than others and so therefore they use cleverer ways to do it. Some are not that clever or are quite basic in terms of their emotions; they use the fist and try to pummel you into submission and if that doesn't work, they leave. It just depends on their personality as to what they'll do. (01:31:56)

Now I'm not saying all of this to frighten you, I'm saying all this to actually encourage you to see how easy it is to be influenced by others if you decide to hook into them emotionally. What I would like to encourage you to do instead of hooking into them emotionally is to start looking at some areas where you can protect yourself from hooking into other people emotionally when you know they are in a condition that is not harmonious with love. (01:32:30)

Now if you've got an angry person on the internet saying all these things to you about me for example, the fact that they're angry is telling you what? Well, they've obviously got a lot of fear, and there's also a lot of grief, is there not? So there's anger, fear, grief. Now if they're angry with me what have I said about anger? Anger is the guide to dealing with deeper emotions, haven't we said that? So if you know they're angry, if you're listening to them in their anger and believing them, then all of a sudden you are now in a place where you're vulnerable. That's totally different to listening to a calmer person who's not in a state of anger, but how do you tell the difference? Well it's quite obvious with anger, not quite obvious with other emotions. (01:33:27)

6.4.1. Living in doubt increases the chances of spirit influence

So often what happens is I'm in a state of doubt, personally, and so what happens is now I'm going to attract a whole group of people who are also in doubt into my life and I'm going to attract a group of spirits who want to influence my doubt into my life. Now how do I deal with my doubt? I have to process it emotionally. I've got to go, "Alright I'm going to go full disbelief," and see how that works for a while. Or I go into full belief and trust and see how that works for a while, but don't stay in a place of doubt because in a place of doubt you are heavily manipulated by anybody around you who just triggers your doubt. (01:34:09)

So if I'm talking about the Law of Attraction, and you doubt the Law of Attraction exists, don't stay in that place. Either totally disbelieve me completely and try that on for size and see how that garments fits you for a while, or believe me for a month and see how it works. Do one or the other. But in the place of doubt you can actually stay in that place for twenty five years and you'll pass and you'll go, "Oh boy, I wish I didn't doubt that, all that time without knowing what the truth was." You can resolve all of these issues quite easily. (01:34:46)

6.4.2. It is possible to process spirits' emotions when we think we are processing our own emotions

Let's admit to ourselves we all have holes in our protective shield still, and we're going to have some ways in which we can be manipulated by these holes. So if we're going to be manipulated by these holes for the rest of our lives, you can be processing what you think is a causal emotion, but it won't be causal at all. Instead will just be emotions of spirits who just connect with you one after the other, after another, influencing your entire process. And the only time you'll notice that changes is when you pass, and all of a sudden you disconnect from them all, and now they're not around you anymore. So now they can't influence you anymore and now you know what was your own thought and what was somebody else's. It's better to know before then. (01:35:47)

7. A willingness to feel our emotions provides protection from negative spirit influence

Participant: About five weeks ago I finally found out why I've been screaming during the night. (To her husband) Will you please turn around? I'm feeling bad enough as it is.

Can I just stop you?

Participant: Yeah.

You just tried to control somebody - why?

Participant: Yeah, I feel really bad talking about this.

Why?

Participant: Because I'm so embarrassed by what I'm going to say.

So what you're doing is judging yourself. Can you see that? You don't need to judge yourself. (A lot of interference on the sound system occurs) Someone else doesn't want you to say what you want to say either. (01:36:37)

7.1. An example of a lady being sexually abused by spirits

Participant: It's got to the stage where I have now found out after decades of screaming in my sleep, and wondering why I still have a marriage and my husband. I have been praying for a long time to get to the bottom of this so I can get to the emotion of it. Now five weeks ago, like I said, I've found out what the problem is. I'm at the stage now where I don't want to go to bed or go to sleep at all, so I keep myself awake until two or two thirty until I finally drop off. This time my husband thought, "I'm going to let her go fully blown into the screams," because often he just wakes me up because he knows what's going to happen. So about four or five weeks ago he let me go and he said he couldn't understand I started screaming out in my own language three times, and then a fully blown scream and he said, "Do you know what this is about?" And I had prayed that night before, but I'd prayed decades before and I actually got angry with God over this. We had words and finally I discovered it was spirit rape. There were three of them; it was more than just rape - it was torture and rape. And I kept saying over and over, "Please don't do this to me, please don't do this to me, please don't do this to me," in my own language. Now I don't use my own language at all but, like I said, now I don't want to sleep. (01:38:34)

Yep. When you say you don't use your own language at all..."

Participant: Well, I've got no one to speak it to. They're all dead.

I see. What language do you speak?

Participant: Dutch.

Dutch, okay, no worries. This issue, by the way, has been raised with me so many times with people asking me questions on the internet and we need to address it. The truth is yes; in your sleep state you can be raped.

Participant: Many times I saw them. I saw them and there's three. And I also remember being a lot younger than what I am now. And of course the next day I'm thinking, "Why would they pick on an old hen like me?" (01:39:18)

So let's look at what's going on because a number of people have asked me this question.

Remember here's our father (AJ writes on the whiteboard), here's our mother. Remember their collective soul condition is what creates my condition. Now if my mother has some unhealed issues with regards to sexuality, and my father has some unhealed issues with regards to sexuality, which, let's face it, most people do, then remember I said that energetically that this leaves this person, this child, open to attack. (01:40:27)

Now, it's the emotional condition of the child that creates the attraction but that emotional condition was created by the unhealed emotions in the parents. The way a parent can protect the child from this ever happening is for the mother to look at all of her issues with regard to sexuality with regards to whatever is unhealed within her. So if she's been abused or she's been harmed by men, she would need to look at all of those issues and actually feel about all those issues and release those issues. And if the girl is being abused, the man would have to look at what attitude he has towards women, what does he feel about sexuality with women and he would have to heal those emotions. What does he believe about women in terms of about them being sex objects for example, he would have to work his way through those emotions. That would then create a barrier around the child where the child can't be harmed sexually. Now unfortunately for yourself, your parents did not do that and so what's happened for yourself inside of yourself there are some unhealed emotions which create holes in that protective armour that allow spirits to be able to influence you sexually, which feels like a rape to you. (01:41:55)

Unhealed sexual injuries in parents create holes in the protective barrier of their daughter

7.1.1. Working through emotional injuries allows God and benevolent spirits to protect us

Participant: I know what rape is like and my mother said when I was raped that I would have to marry the man if I was pregnant.

Yes, so there are a lot of unhealed emotions about the rape and about the childhood sexual abuse. My suggestion for you is that when you start allowing yourself to work your way through those emotions, that's when you can receive protection from your spirit friends. While we deny these emotions that exist within us, then our spirits friends who can assist us would have to break one of God's Laws to assist us. You see if I'm trying to stay away from an emotion inside of myself and I don't want to heal it, the good spirits are going to be working against that in order to protect us, so they're working against our own desire. Our desire is to not heal something because we want to stay away from it, we're afraid of it, so we don't want to heal it because we're afraid of it. (01:42:58)

You see many of us feel we think we want to heal something, but the truth inside of us is we're so afraid of the issue that we don't actually want to heal it. What we want is for somebody to come along and rub it all out for us. Most the time that's what we want. We want God in particular to do that, and a lot of us give up on God because God doesn't rub it out for us. So we get totally angry with God and upset with God and we say, "God is useless, God doesn't want to help me, God doesn't love me," and then we start wanting other people to rub it out for us. And of course they can't because the emotion is inside of us anyway. So at some point we need to have some kind of willingness to deal with the emotion.

Now this is the second point that I want to raise about protection. You can only be protected by spirit friends or by God, when you're in an unhealed state I'm talking about here. So remember when you're in a healed state, when you're in at-onement state you're automatically protected, but when you're in an unhealed state, when you're in a state where you've still got emotions to work on inside of yourself, you can only be protected by God or by spirits who are on the Divine Love Path, if you demonstrate a willingness to deal with the core emotion. (01:44:20)

Willingness to feel is a second way to protect ourselves from spirit influence

Participant: Which is?

The issues regarding sexuality and being raped, for yourself.

Participant: For starters, yes.

So when you actually get into a state yourself where you are willing to go into those emotions, now your spirit friends can protect you; awake or asleep, they can protect you. But when you have an unwillingness to deal with the emotion because of your fear about those emotions and how terrible they feel, then they can't help you in that state and you're at the mercy of anyone who's attracted to you through the Law of Attraction. (01:45:00)

When you demonstrate a true willingness to actually feel the causal emotion that is the time that you can have the maximum amount of protection from spirits and God. When you don't have a willingness to deal with the causal core emotion, and I mean an emotional soul willingness, not just an intellectual thought of, "Oh yeah, I want to do it": it's a really strong passionate desire to deal with the emotion. When you have that, you can be protected. If you don't have that, they would have to break God's other laws in order to protect you, because the Law of Free Will is paramount. This is something to understand; the Law of Free will is so paramount that God will not break it. God will never do anything unless you really badly, badly, badly want it to happen, God will not do it. The Law of Free Will is paramount to God. In other words, it is one of the basics of the Laws of Love. (01:46:12)

So if I have, inside of me, an unwillingness to emotionally get at the core emotion with regard to an issue, God cannot help me in that state. Nor can my spirit friends who are on the Divine Love Path help me in that state, because to do that they would have to break their own relationship with God. So they can't help me in that state either. The only spirits that will be willing to help me in that state will be natural love spirits, and even then they won't be able to overcome my Law of Attraction. So I will get very little help in that state. As soon as I demonstrate a pure willingness inside of myself from my soul to deal with the hard emotional issues that are there, without judgement, from that moment on I can be afforded the maximum amount of protection that is available to me. (01:47:13)

So this feels particularly hard and harsh with sexual issues. The reason why it feels particularly hard and harsh is because many times we have sexual issues occur during our childhood or during our young adulthood with regard to being harmed, raped or hurt and abused in some way and because of those issues, our environment generally shuts us down; it doesn't allow us to process any of those emotions. And so we learn in ourselves to carry this personal shame the rest of our lives. And the unfortunate fact is that while I'm carrying the personal shame and unwilling to feel it and process it through emotionally, I am also now in the state where I can't be protected externally by God or by spirits who could protect us. (01:47:58)

7.1.2. Being honest about how willing we are to feel our emotional injuries

Participant: I sure don't feel as if I'm unwilling because that's what I had words with God over. What more do you want me to do? How more genuine can I get?

Let me demonstrate that you are in fact unwilling.

Participant: Am I really?

If you're angry with God...

Participant: I was, yeah.

You're unwilling.

Participant: Yeah.

Remember anger covers over what? Fear, or terror, let's say in your case. Anger covers over the terror and what does the terror cover over? The grief. Now if I'm angry towards God, am I in a state of willingness to feel the emotion? (01:48:55)

Participant: I'd apologise next day.

That's okay, apology or not, I'm saying you're still angry with God about it - right now.

Participant: Yes I am because the wheels have fallen off and I feel as if I'm skating on very, very thin ice.

Yes, which are all of these terror emotions.

Participant: ... and just hanging in there by my teeth.

The truth is you're very angry with God and while you hold onto that anger with God, you are totally unwilling to deal with the underlying emotion. And while we're unwilling to deal with the underlying emotion we can't be afforded the help that could be given. (01:49:33)

You see this is something many of us need to understand. It's not intellectually manufacturing anger or no anger; it's about the feeling inside of me. Remember we get angry towards somebody, whether it's God or not, because we want them to do something for us. Now the truth is if God isn't already doing it, there's a loving reason why, and the loving reason why God isn't already doing it for you is because He respects your free will, and you are unwilling to feel the underlying terror and grief associated with the events of the past; that's why. (01:50:20)

Now, when you are willing to deal with those, you won't feel angry with God any more. You will actually feel like you want to deal with those things without feeling anger towards God and when you get into that space of course it's easy for God to help you in that space. (01:50:38)

7.1.3. Being angry indicates a lack of willingness

Now this is where we need to be really honest with ourselves. We can say to ourselves, "I want to do it, I want to do it," but in reality the truth is oftentimes the feeling coming from us is totally the opposite of that. I had a conversation earlier today, where that's the case, with yourself, Raya; the unwillingness to see that you wanted to be angry for example. You want to be angry, and there's a reason why, but the anger is telling you that you're unwilling. So if I'm in a state of anger, the anger is telling me I'm unwilling. I need to look at why am I so unwilling. Why am I so unwilling? Because until I fix the willingness, how can anyone who's on the Divine Love Path in the spirit world help me? Because to help me, they would have to break the law of my will, which is paramount to them. (01:51:42)

Participant: I've actually come to that conclusion. I've actually had big conversations with my soul where, "Obviously there's a block that you're not wanting to go there," and it's almost as if we're two people. I'm arguing with my own soul, "We really need to do this; we really need to get through this."

You are not actually arguing with your own soul in that space.

Participant: Who am I arguing with?

You're arguing with another spirit who doesn't want to deal with her abuse.

Participant: Oh for God's sake, not more! (Laughter)

You see what happens if I'm in a state emotionally where I don't want to deal with my sexual abuse, what kind of spirits am I going to attract? I'm going to attract some other women spirits who also don't want to deal with their abuse emotionally. So I might have two or three or four or five of them surrounding me at any one point in time. So AJ comes along, the idiot AJ comes along, and suggests you've got to feel through the terror and into the grief of the abuse, and these girls are going to be saying to you, "No, we don't want you to do that, we don't want you to do that." (01:52:36)

If we are unwilling to feel about our sexual abuse, we will attract other women spirits who are also unwilling

Participant: Is my mother one of them?

Well of course your mother would be one of them if she's passed, because who do you think was there when your abuse was happening?

Participant: Well, she was going to deal with it herself. She married a paedophile also.

And can you see then it feels like we're having a conversation with ourselves when in reality we're not having a conversation with ourselves at all, we are having a conversation with a spirit who does not want you to go into this emotional work of dealing with your abuse because if you do, they might have to, or they won't have the connection with you anymore. And they disagree totally with me by the way. Every abused woman in the spirit world who has yet to deal with their abuse disagrees wholeheartedly with everything I'm saying to you about abuse, right now. Every one of them thinks I'm an idiot, every one of them thinks I'm a male who doesn't know what to do, doesn't know the truth, every single one of them. And if you've got one or two of them around you from your own childhood, they are going to be telling you the exact opposite thing that I'm telling you right at this moment. (01:54.00)

Of course they're going to be telling you because they have never dealt with their abuse in their entire life. They don't even want to take responsibility for the fact that your abuse probably occurred because of the unhealed stuff that they haven't dealt with from their abuse. They don't even want to deal with that let alone deal with the abuse itself. (01:54:20)

But the truth is that while I have this feeling inside of me where I am exercising my will into an unwilling state, from that moment on I cannot be protected by any bright spirits on the Divine Love Path or by God. And because of that my Law of Attraction is going to dominate my experience so much that eventually I'll get into one of these emotions as a result of that experience. But while I stay in the anger, the anger is a demonstration of my unwillingness. So remember every time you are angry, it's a demonstration of your own unwillingness to deal with the deeper emotion. (01:55:11)

Participant: So how can I get her to back off, because I have talked to her in the past?

You can't deal with her, because she is there because of your unwillingness. You need to look at what your hook is into her. Now if it is your mother the hooks are going to be quite obvious. It could be, "I want to please my mother, I want to get my bond with my mother close, we're girls and we should stick together, all the women on the planet should stick together against the men." There are a lot of those kinds of emotions there if the person's been abused. (01:55:48)

Participant: Then we're totally different, she was pitiful really - very weak.

But the Truth is that I'm in a state of anger, I know I'm in unwillingness. The next question is do I want to become willing? Do I want to become willing, and most of the time we don't, for very strong reasons.

Participant: Well I had a very strong reason. I was going to beat you to the post to be quite honest; that was my aim to reach at-onement. So I worked really, really hard and then the wheels fell off. And I thought, "I won't say anything to anyone, it'll show."

It's far better to be truthful though. So do I want to become willing about the issue of my abuse?

When I returned to Earth I took most of Mary's childhood abuse issues with me. So in this life it took me seven years to work through the issues of childhood sexual abuse from my first century existence. It can be done but it requires you getting out of anger and getting into the terror and then underneath that. That's what it requires. When you're willing to do that, God can help you through the entire process. So while at the moment it might sound to you that I'm being quite callous to a person who's been abused, the truth is I've had exactly the same personal experience of having to deal with those emotions and they don't affect me anymore. But they used to affect me terribly as a result of the unhealed emotion. I was terrified of dealing with the emotions and for me the emotions were pretty intense working my way through all of them, as they will be for any person who has had abuse in their childhood or in their young adult life. But all you need is willingness, a real soul willingness to deal with them. Remember the anger is telling when you are not willing and in a state of anger you cannot be protected. (01:59:10)

Coping with Spirit Influence: Part 2

So far we've talked about these two things, truth and willingness, with regard to protection from spirits. Now I can't say to you strongly enough how important those two things are in working your way through different issues with regard to spirit influence. Every single time you even get out of your own personal truth, you are going to be influenced by spirits, every single time. (01:59:43)

So let's say I actually have an emotion inside of me, and I'll just use an example, because I don't have this emotion, but let's say I have an emotion inside of me that I would like to have a sexual relationship with every pretty woman who's around me. Now, I could, in a spiritual state, go and actually be celibate in that state where I could actually live a life of celibacy, even though I have this desire inside of me that I would like to have sex with every pretty woman who's around me. Now can you see that my life of celibacy, although I'm living it, is not a reality at the soul level? Because I have this feeling in my soul that I would like to be with every pretty woman. So if I'm not in the state where I recognise the truth of that, I am so easily able to be manipulated just by me not recognising my own personal truth; that I desire this.

8. Spirits can influence us through our anger and addictions

8.1. Our personal truth may be that we have a desire to be angry

A lot of times I find that's not so much an issue compared to the desire that many of us have to be angry, and we'll talk about this as a separate issue because spirits hook into this in major ways. But many of us have a desire to be angry. Now the reasons why we have it is many fold. A lot of times it's because we feel like other people did us damage and we're not to blame for it, they are to blame for it and they should fix it, not us. So we have a lot of projections or expectations of other people to fix things and so in the end we really want to be angry rather than actually deal with the underlying grief and our desire to be angry, we are often not truthful about. (02:01:57)

You see on the spiritual path when you're angry, how do people look at you? "You're not very spiritual if you're angry," right? So what you finish up doing if you're on the spiritual path often is you suppress all of the rage and anger that's there inside of you; you completely lock it down and you make out even to yourself that you're not angry. And you can do this really easily, to be frank. Particularly if you've become detuned, or you go out of body a lot, you can detune very much from your true emotional state. And so what I'm doing at that moment is I'm telling myself, "No I'm not angry and I don't desire to be angry." Now if you're not truthful with yourself you're never going to get to a causal emotion for a start, but secondly any spirit now can hook into your rage at any point in time and manipulate it. And they can do this over and over and over again, and we act in a manner that we feel is not angry, but actually we are very angry as a result.

Now I've seen this happen over and over and over with so called spiritual people who are looked up to by everyone else. So a lot of people who are in a state of being treated like a spiritual guru are actually quite often very, very angry, but in a very suppressed state. They say they have relinquished all their desires, including the desire to be angry, and the problem with it is that they're not speaking the truth. And whenever you're not speaking the truth to yourself, of course a lot of spirits are going to help you not speak the truth to yourself as well and to others, and they'll just hook into that. (02:03:44)

So that is one area. The issue of anger I want to deal with separately because it is a big issue with regards to spirits. But can you see how whenever we don't face the personal truth, whatever that personal truth is, we're now able to be manipulated? (02:04:01)

8.2. An example of Mary projecting spirits' anger at AJ due to an addiction to please women

So I'll give an example of what happened with myself and Mary a few weeks ago. I think I may have mentioned this before. We were driving along in the car and Mary was starting to get really upset and angry with me. Then she noticed that she didn't really feel that angry but she was verbalising all this angry stuff at me, and she realised right at that moment that she had a group of spirits around her who were angry with men, and I was a good target. (02:04:38)

So here's a woman on Earth who's in a rage with a man, and she's in a rage with me, but not understanding actually that there's this group of women spirits around her who were actually in a rage with me; they were really, really angry with me. And what they were doing was they were using her to express their rage to me.

She didn't even feel it was her rage even in the end. She didn't feel that angry with me, she just realised she was saying a heap of things that she didn't even really believe herself. So then we had to look at why would this group of spirits be able to actually influence her in this manner to express their rage to me? And that's when she came face to face with the hook; the hook she had to the spirits, which was to do with pleasing women, a woman pleasing other women.

Women spirits can use a woman on Earth to express rage towards a man if that woman wishes to please other women

Many of you ladies and many of you men have the same injuries with the same gender. This is how it works. (02:06:03)

When I please the women in the audience and I'm a woman, now all of those women can connect to me and they can project all of these loving emotions at me. They're in agreement with me and I feel really, really good because they are in agreement with me. If I'm a woman and I then disagree with that group of women, now not only is their emotion triggered of what the disagreement's about, but also there's a second emotion triggered and that is, "We're not women sticking together, we're not women all having the same viewpoint towards men, we're not loyal to each other." So there's this emotion of disloyalty towards the gender. Now many men have the same thing of course where a group of men will get together and if one man says, "Oh I don't feel that way about my wife," then he's hammered because he's now disloyal to the gender. (02:07:00)

Now when we feel a feeling that we've got to maintain loyalty to our gender, we're actually now allowing the whole of that gender in the spirit world to manipulate us in any which way they can, and that includes if they're angry with a man and I'm not really angry with a man, but they are, I can then be influenced by my wanting to please the women. (02:07:29)

So can you see how if we see the truth of what the hook is, we can start seeing what's going on and in reality, the emotion that Mary wasn't dealing with was her desire to please women, even if they were being unloving. So while she's expressing all this anger to me, to the man, it may appear that the problem is that she's angry with men, but actually that's not the problem. The problem is that she's unwilling to deal with the emotion, or she was unwilling at that moment, to deal with the emotion of why she needed to please the women. (02:08:09)

And this is where it's very difficult sometimes when we're in this interaction spiritually, because often we think, "I'm angry with men so I must have all of these spirits around me who are angry with men." Well while that is true because that is our Law of Attraction, we're not understanding what our hook is, into those spirits influencing us and our hook is often totally different to the actual emotion that we're expressing at the time. (02:08:49)

Participant: How on Earth do you work it out then? Because I tend to over analyse things anyway. How do you get to that space if you really want to stay with the emotion or get into it without getting too intellectual about it? (02:09:03)

How do you actually deal with the emotion, yeah?

Participant: Well, no, how do you work out what the hook is? Because I thought it was whatever emotion you were avoiding, that's what they hook into so that's what I've been concentrating on.

Well it was an emotion Mary was avoiding, which was the emotion of to please women. She was avoiding that emotion and because of that emotion she wanted to please these women and that even meant doing what they felt she should do.

Participant: But did she think it was to do with anger? Because I tend to lump all the angry women ones in the, "We're all angry at men basket," and I'm just wondering then how do you take the level further and work out what the hook is? (02:09:45)

Well what I do, myself, is I go firstly, "Well I'm angry, so I'm out of harmony." So I'm angry so I'm out of harmony with love and truth that's the first thing, and this is probably the next subject that I wanted to discuss with you.

8.3. Being angry indicates that we are out of harmony with love and truth

If I'm angry, I'm out of harmony with love and truth. It's as simple as that. Now if I allow myself to speak out all this anger and rage at a person, I am very much out of harmony with love and truth at that moment, and I am going to open myself up to spirits speaking their anger and everything through me as well. So at some point I've got to take stock and say, 'Hang on a sec, I'm angry with men myself. I'm angry with men, that is part of the issue." But then I've also got to ask just one question in addition to that, and that is, "Why am I willing to express the rage and anger of a spirit towards these men?" In other words, "Why am I willing to do what I'm told by people who are in worse condition than myself?" That's really the question we've got to ask ourselves. (02:11:00)

You see this happening in a group all the time where you're all sitting around for dinner and all of a sudden one person comes in who's in a really angry place. Can you feel the mood of everyone? You don't have to say a word the mood just goes down. Everyone's now afraid of triggering that person's rage. So what is that person really doing? They are controlling you with their rage without saying a word, that's what they're doing; they're controlling every statement now that comes out of your mouth. (02:11:34)

8.3.1. An example of an interaction with an angry woman on AJ and Mary's trip to New Zealand

Now we've had this happen on our trip over to New Zealand. We were sitting down at Karen's place and we were in a group, and this was after the group had finished. Karen's got this lovely place in New Zealand and we were staying there for a little while at her invitation. We had a group there, and then the group finished and most of the people went home, and a couple stayed overnight and then left the next day. And then that night myself and a few others who were left were talking about some spiritual matters, and all of a sudden one of Karen's friends came who was invited to come the day before. But she didn't come the day before, she actually came when she thought she could avoid me the most (laughter); she thought I'd be gone then. So she came hoping that I wouldn't still be there. So that's the emotion I get from her the minute she sees me. She sees me and the feeling in her is, "Oh no (laughter), I was hoping he'd be gone by now." Because of that, she was feeling a lot of anger that I hadn't gone, that I was still there, and she walks in and sits down to a meal that had been prepared for her. (02:13:03)

Now at that moment everyone sitting at the table felt an emotion from her. She didn't say anything, everyone said hello, she said hello. All the polite stuff goes on, right? She didn't say anything but everybody felt an emotion from her and the reactions of each person sitting there were very different to that emotion. Mary was sitting next to me and her reaction was, "AJ has now got to stop talking about anything." (Laughter) It wasn't towards the person who came to visit, it was towards me. So in other words Mary's feeling was, "I don't want you talking about any spiritual things in front of this woman." So that was Mary's emotion. (02:13:50)

Now straight away, what had happened in that moment is Mary's condition was lowered to that of the person. So in other words she was allowing the person in the resistive condition to dominate her life more than her desire to actually talk about spiritual matters. And then a few of the others went quiet for a little while, "What do we do now?" You know how you have that feeling? "This person's not going to like what we're talking about; do I open my mouth and talk about it, or what do I do now?"

Now the instant we have that feeling, we're actually now in danger of not acting in harmony with our desires any more. What we're now doing is we're acting in harmony with the desire of the person who is actually projecting the rage and anger at me. I'm acting in harmony with their desire. That's the purpose of anger when you think about it, isn't it? Why else would you do it unless it's to control?

8.4. Spirits around us often threaten and control us with rage

So this is the issue we face with spirits. Oftentimes we have a group of spirits surrounding us who are in a rage, but they are very nice to us as long as we toe the line, just like a person on earth would be. You know this from any of you who have experienced abusive relationships with a partner. The person is nice to you as long as everything that they want to have happen happens how they want it. As soon as it doesn't happen how they want it, they are now angry with you and I'm not saying that they just sit down and have a talk with you; I'm saying they're in a rage with you. They'll say all these nasty things at you and everything, project it, and the reason why is because these people are with you to control you. That's the whole purpose. Why would you be with a person on Earth unless it's to control them? What's the point of a spirit being with you unless it's to actually get something out of it, unless they are a person who loves you and just wants to help you in any way? (02:15:59)

Now many of these spirits actually believe they are helping. So that group of spirits who were with Mary believe that they were helping Mary. Mary's had a pretty hard history with regard to men and when I say a pretty hard history, if I described some of the events from the first century, most of you ladies would be absolutely horrified about what happened to her. So she's had some very, very difficult events from the first century about men. Now that emotion inside of her connects her to these other spirits who have also had very, very similar events and history with men. So that's the connection, but on top of that Mary has had this other emotion from the first century about women. Many women in the first century treated Mary terribly; they treated her like she was the whore, the prostitute, and all of those kinds of things and they treated her very badly. Often it was the women who actually treated her worse than the men in terms of their projections, in terms of talking to her, trying to shame her and all of those other things. So of course there's going to be an emotion there of wanting to please the women, wanting to make the women feel good so that she doesn't get these projections and these women were just hooking into that emotionally. Now what that means then is they could express their rage through the process at the man. (02:17:32)

8.5. Not owning our anger allows us to be easily manipulated by spirits

Now if I'm in a state where I can feel my anger rise inside of me, but I realise I'm out of harmony with love when I have this anger, so I've now got to own this anger and just go away and not express it at somebody. Because the moment I express it at somebody, I am now hooking into the entire process of what the spirits also want. If every time I felt this anger rise inside of me towards men for example, and I decided I wasn't going to express it at a man but instead I was going to get a punching bag and bang, bang, bang, and own the emotion of anger inside of me, can you see that takes away the power of the spirits who are influencing you? Straight away they're going, "No, no, no, don't do that, don't do that, I want you to be angry at the man, not at the bag!" (02:18:31)

And this is why many of us, when we're angry, we don't want to go away and own it, we want to stay where we are and project it as heavily as we can at the person who we're projecting it at; that's what we want. And the reason why we want to do that is because it feels inside of us that it gives us a voice for it, but in reality it's one of the most damaging things we can do and it's also one of the things that spirits hook into the most, because you can either to choose to work along with these spirits or to act out of harmony with them. It's up to you. That's a choice that's inside of you. (02:19:11)

My suggestion is, never act in harmony with what a spirit wants you to do. Now how do I know what a spirit wants me to do? Well any spirit obviously who wants me to do something that's good, it's obviously okay to act in harmony with, but how do I know when it's not that kind of a spirit? Quite easily really; if I'm in a rage or in anger, then I know straight away that I'm pulling in straight away lots of different spirits who are going to be way out of harmony with love in that place. I know that straight away. Anything I do from that moment on, justified or not, is out of harmony with love. Everything I do from that moment on is out of harmony with love. If I don't allow these spirits to have a voice for their anger, and I don't mean by me not owning it, I mean by me going and privately feeling the rage instead of publicly or with a person doing it; that's owning it for myself. If I publicly express it or express it towards a person, now I am not in a place where I own my anger at all, and I'm now in a place where I'm very under the control of any person in the spirit world who wants to express that anger through me. (02:20:33)

So when I'm in this space, I now give them a voice. So now a lot of what's coming out of me is not even mine and you've all been in this place at some point where you said a bunch of things to somebody in a rage and then go, "Whoa where did that come from?" Yeah, where did it come from? It came from a group of spirits with you who wanted to express all of those things to that person because they have all those emotions. You are certainly connected to those feelings, but you've got to look at where it's come from. The fact is you gave those spirits a voice. Stop giving them a voice, they need to own their own emotion, you need to own yours. When you own yours by going and bashing a bag or whatever, now they don't get the voice they wanted, they don't get the means to express it to the male that they hate. They don't get the means to express it to the mother they dislike or any of those things; now all of their power in the interaction is now taken away from them. (02:21:45)

Participant: When you say something and you're projecting anger and you don't actually remember what you've said after the fact, that's often not your own words?

Of course! You'd definitely remember what you've said, wouldn't you, if it came from you?

Participant: There's only been one time in my life where I felt so angry that I couldn't see the person I was angry at any more. Blind rage is the only way I could describe it. Is that spirit influence as well?

Of course, but remember every one of these things is a hook; we've got a hook into them, we've got a reason why we're doing this with them. And a lot of times the reason why we're doing it is not because of the anger, that's what I was just illustrating here. The reason why Mary was doing it wasn't because of the anger; it was because of her fear of displeasing women. So if she didn't do it, what would all these women do to her? Do you know what they did with her for the next forty five minutes? They just projected rage at her, because she refused to project rage at me. (02:22:50)

Participant: I can see why you would want to avoid that.

Okay, so you can see why you'd want to avoid it. So if you feel that and you start wanting to project rage at the man again and that makes everything better, it doesn't make everything better; it just makes your soul condition worse as well, but we often feel it does because we get relief from the spirit world.

8.6. Spirits manipulate us through threats and bribery

So if you could think of a lot of the spirits who are in a malevolent condition, they use the old thing, the carrot and the stick. You know how that works don't you? You get the carrot when you do the right thing; you get the stick when you do the wrong thing.

Spirits manipulate us using the "carrot or stick"

Any spirit who does that with you is out of harmony with love. So if you feel relief when you do the wrong thing, you know you've got a group of spirits around you who are totally out of harmony with love and if you feel pressure when you're doing the right thing, you beauty - I know I've got a lot of spirits around who are out of harmony with love and doing the right thing is just challenging them full on. And we're allowed to; this is a spiritual warfare you are in. And when I say spiritual warfare, this is a battle for your soul that you're in, to be frank. Do you understand that? The battle is for your soul - you. You to be your own self, your own individual, your own desires, your own wants, your own feelings being expressed every single moment, that's the battle. And every time you hook into them, you are no longer yourself any more; you are now being someone somebody else wants you to be. That is now out of harmony with love and truth of yourself for a start but straight away you've lost the battle. We are in a battle for ourselves, for our own soul to be honest, truthful, loving all the time and we need to understand that that's where we're at. (02:24:51)

8.7. Anger results from unmet addictions

Participant: If I'm bashing the punching bag and screaming and still thinking of the person that I've just been standing in front of, I'm still hooking in and the spirits can still hook into me?

Exactly.

Participant: Okay, so I've just got to really try to blank off and just come to myself.

No, I've got to own the rage that's within me toward men; my childhood rage or the expectation. Remember last weekend I talked to you about expectations and addictions in the talk "The Human Soul - Expectations and Addictions". Every single time an expectation in you isn't met, you will get into anger if you don't have a desire to get what's underneath.

So let's say at the moment I've got an expectation of Sven. Sven's the cameraman just there. So I've got an expectation of him; I'm going to get angry every time he doesn't meet my expectation. Now I've got to see that what's actually causing my rage isn't some childhood rage about men, it's actually because I want to control men. I want to get a man to do what I want, and that probably came from my childhood where I got nothing that I wanted or everything that I wanted - one of the two, which are both as damaging as each other. And what happened was that I've grown up now to think that my way of getting what I want out of a man is just to get angry with him. Once I'm angry with him now he'll either do what I want or I'll get rid of him out of my life. (02:26:27)

8.8. Owning anger means having it pass through us, not towards the other person

Participant: So if I concentrate on it and I say, "God help me to own this," and get into the causal underneath it, that will keep me in there and not projecting it out?

So own the rage and really own the rage, you'll feel a difference when you do it. When you're projecting at another person, you're not owning the rage, you're not feeling the rage pass through you, you're feeling the rage pass out of you and into the other person and you like it. We like it, that's why we do it.

So here I am (AJ draws on the whiteboard), let's say I'm in a rage at this person. I want to be. I'm not owning the fact that I want to be. When I really want to feel my rage towards women, in this case because that's a woman I'm in a rage with, when I really want to feel my rage towards women, it will pass through me not to her. (02:27:29)

A man owning his rage means it will pass through him and not be projected to the woman he is angry with

So what you find happens is that you can feel it inside when somebody does this. You can be with a person talking to them and feel they are in a rage with you and then all of a sudden they own their own rage inside of themselves and now you don't even feel the projection of rage. They're screaming and yelling but you're not feeling it hammer you anymore. If you're sensitive to it you'll feel the difference between those two states and you'll also eventually feel the difference between those two states inside of yourself. When I own my own rage I don't want to have a voice to somebody else with it. I just feel it, feel it, feel it in me and ironically, when I'm in that state, very, very rapidly I get to the underlying terror or grief. For myself it's usually a minute. Now I don't get into a rage very often but if I do it's usually one minute; one minute and I'm crying. It doesn't last very long at all. (02:28:29)

9. Discovering why we are not willing to feel

Participant: When you were talking about the willingness to deal with it, if I'm not willing because I'm not getting into it, can I pray to God to help me have the willingness to get into the causal emotion?

I suppose you can pray to God about anything, can't you, but if I'm not willing, I can certainly ask God to help me be willing. But am I being honest with myself? If I'm not willing wouldn't it be more appropriate to pray to God about why I'm not willing.

Participant: Okay, I knew there was something I was missing there. "Why am I not willing and show me that and my Law of Attraction will help me get into that."

Because God's not going to make you willing, because it's your free will that makes you willing. God's not going to make you willing. What God's going to do is expose to you the reasons why you're not willing. God will certainly do that.

Participant: Yes, that's more or less what I was getting at, if I ask Him to help me to become willing, then through my Law of Attraction He will help me to... no - I have to ask why am I not willing and then the Law of Attraction will kick in.

Yes because let's be specific. If I know I'm not willing, how can a prayer to God asking Him to make me willing actually make me willing? Firstly, He can't answer the prayer because it's out of harmony with love, and how is He going to answer the prayer? Only by showing me why I'm not willing anyway. I've got to be open to the why. Like if you're angry, you've got to be open to why you're angry. Firstly you've got to be open to the fact that you are angry and then you've got be open to the fact of why you're angry.

So many people come up to me at the front and say, "Ah I really want to deal with this." "Is it happening right now?" "No." "Then you don't." So many people say, "But I do." And I say, "No, you don't. Is it happening right now?" "No." "Then you don't." "But I do!" And you keep getting the same answer back every time. The truth is a lot of the times we just don't want to face the Truth. (02:30:43)

On the Divine Love Path you're going to have to face the truth. That includes facing the truth that you don't want to do it, and be honest about the fact that you don't want to do it. And if you want to go deeper, ask yourself why and you'll be surprised at what comes up with the "why". There are lots of terrors and fears and lots of stuff, shame. All sorts of reasons why I don't want to do it. Can you see the difference?

So whenever you feel like, "Ah, alright, I'm not staying in truth," instead of asking God to help you stay in truth, say to yourself, "I don't want to stay in truth, I don't want to. Why? Ah, because if I stay in truth with that person, they're probably going to write me off for the rest of my life. If I stay in truth with that person I'll lose half of my income. If I stay in truth with that person, I'll have to leave her and she'll take half of my livelihood away." We have all these emotional reasons why we don't want to stay in truth, but if I don't say to myself firstly, "I don't want to stay in truth," I'll never acknowledge the "why". And the "why" is all of the business, that's the emotional business, that's the processing we need to do; the "why". (02:32:08)

So this is where it's so important to be honest with yourself. When you say to me, "I really want to deal with this but I can't seem to get there." What's going to be my answer? Standard - "No you don't, you don't really want to deal with this and the reason why you're not getting there is because you don't really want to. Let's be honest." Then the question is, "Do you want to know why? Why don't you want to deal with that? Why don't you want to deal with this?" (02:32:43)

Why's, a pretty good little question isn't it? So, "I don't want to stay in truth in my personal relationships, I don't want to stay in Truth with regard to how I act with people." Why? "I don't want to be willing; I don't want to deal with my emotions at all. I'm sick of hearing AJ talk about it \- that's why half the time I don't want to go to one of these sessions, even though they're free." How many times have you felt up to now, that you'd really like to not come? (Laughter) Many of you are not being honest because there are plenty of times when you have felt that. And the reason is oftentimes you get presented with some more truth and there's a deep unwillingness to actually deal with that inside of ourselves. And we're not willing to ask ourselves why. What we want to do is have some kind of magic cure and I've told you that I can't give you a magic cure. And the truth is actually that God can't either, because these emotions are within you. (02:33:51)

So even though I'm talking about the Divine Love entering your soul and helping you through this process of growth, that's not a magic cure for you holding on to negative emotions. Your holding on to negative emotions is totally dependent upon yourself. That's it. Nobody else; it's totally dependent on what's going on inside of yourself. The question you've got to ask yourself is, 'Why do I want to do that?' (02:34:13)

9.1. Using devices to help us get into emotions doesn't address the unwillingness

What was that machine you were talking to me about, Jen? What's it called? This is a question I was asked in the break.

Participant: It's an Omega wand, a magnetic hematite wand.

An Omega wand, a magnetic hematite wand, okay. So the question I was asked in the break was, "Is the magnetic hematite wand going to be helpful for my spiritual growth?" That was the question and what I did was I just drew this diagram. That's my physical body. That's my spirit body and this is my soul.

Magnetic devices affect our spirit body or physical body, but not our soul

And what's the wand going to affect? The spirit body or the physical body, isn't it? So sure, if you want to affect one of those two things go ahead and do it. But if you were on the Divine Love Path why would you choose to affect one of those two things when you've got total control over your soul? Why would you choose that if you're on the Divine Love Path? The reason why you're doing it is because you're not getting where you want to be and there's an actual emotional reason why you're choosing to get a device. (02:36:27)

So there's a device that comes into my life.

I think I should do that. The device doesn't address the issue as to why my emotions aren't already flowing in my soul and it may force them to flow or whatever, but it doesn't change the fact that I've got a resistance to them flowing. All the device does and, by the way, the device, the technique, the process or whatever else you want to call these things that people will present to you, all they do is try to avoid the blockage you have. (02:36:58)

Now on the Divine Love Path what's the best thing to do? Cause and effect; deal with the cause. What's the reason why my emotion isn't flowing? Because I've got a block to it flowing, a wand might help me, but do you think it's going to help me for very long? I don't think so while I've got that block. It's going to flick back into the same place is it not? So I'm not dealing with the cause.

Now I know these things. I know them. I've taught them over and over again whenever you've come to these sessions, but hardly any of us trust that, to be honest, because we don't believe that. "Such and such had a good response to that and such and such had a good response to that," and we quote twenty other people who had good response to that, but we're talking here about the Divine Love Path, are we not? (02:37:42)

The Divine Love Path is all about becoming connected to God in such a way that you become at-one with God. As a by-product of that, all of your other stuff will be resolved, but it's a by-product of that. Now if I'm focussed on resolving this other stuff in my physical body, my spirit body and so forth, and I'm not doing my soul work, am I going to become at-one with God? No, and you can use device after device after device and you're still not going to become at-one with God because we have emotional blockages about becoming at-one with God, simple as that. And we need to deal with them and all the device does is help you circumvent the truth. (02:38:24)

The truth is, "Will I need that device so that I can feel good, so that I can feel like I'm progressing? Because the truth is that I don't feel like I'm progressing and I'm angry with God and I'm frustrated with this and I'm tired of the things AJ's teaching me and I'm sick to death hearing about emotion. I want an alternative, I want something else to deal with stuff; I don't want to have to do it this way."

9.1.1. There is only one way to reach at-onement with God

And what have I said from the beginning? There is only one way to at-onement with God and many of you still don't believe that. And that's okay you don't have to, but I'm saying the truth to you - there is only one way to at-onement with God and that is through dealing with your causal emotions and having desires that are harmonious with love and truth. That is the only way you can get there.

And devices are not going to help you get there. Was the device around a hundred years ago? The thing I say to myself whenever I'm presented with any of these things is this, "Alright, two thousand years ago what did I do? Well, I didn't use a magnetic resonance device, I didn't use this device and I didn't use that device. I had to deal with my stuff." And then I look back twenty thousand, thirty thousand or fifty thousand years ago where mankind didn't have a lot of these devices, do you think God created you in such a way that you needed a device to connect to God? Does that make sense to you at all in a logical way? It doesn't, does it? (02:39:56)

10. Being logical offers protection from spirit influence

So that brings me to the next point and that is this, and it is something to remember when you're dealing with spirits. Divine Truth is logical.

One of the reasons why there are almost as many men in this audience as there are women is because Divine Truth appeals to the logic as well as to the emotion. When you go to any other place where you get all of this metaphysical mumbo jumbo, and to be frank a lot of it is not mumbo jumbo a lot of it is metaphysical truth, but it doesn't make much logical sense in many cases. And the truth is, many times there is no logic to it and many times there's gross distortion in logic, whereas Divine Truth is logical. God gave you a mind of course, the mind is an expression of your soul's emotions but the mind is capable of thinking. So stop giving away your thoughts to spirits.

10.1. Doubt opens us up to spirit influence

Do you know how we give our thoughts away to spirits? You've all done it at some point. Here's one for example - "I have doubts about the Law of Attraction. In other words, I don't believe the Law of Attraction really exists like AJ's saying."

Now you can easily in that state give your mind away, because anybody can basically then teach you that there is no such thing as the Law of Attraction, that it's all to do with just good people, bad people and there's no real rhyme or reason to it, or whatever they come up with as a theory. What will actually happen is that while you have the doubt you are now allowing any person around you to influence you one way or the other. You're like a swinging pole (laughter) if there's such a thing; just somebody swinging back and forth, back and forth, back and forth between two different opinions. There's a good description in the Bible that talks about that actually, but now that I've brought up the Bible a lot of you have trouble with that as well (laughter). The bible says that a person who limps on two different opinions is like a wave being driven by the sea, in that it just has no direction in many cases and it just gets driven where the wind blows. Can you see humanity doing that? (02:42:54)

10.1.1. Truth can be discovered through experimentation

Now when you notice yourself doing that, that's the issue. Now logic can help us get out of that process. Obviously if I'm just going with the crowd on this issue and then going with the crowd on this issue and going with the crowd on this issue, I may as well just give up free will altogether, because that's what I've done; I'm just going with the crowd. So I might as well just sit down and write down all the things the crowd wants me to do and just go and do that. But that's not ever going to connect you with God or yourself for that matter. It's far better to have some logic here and say; alright I've got some doubts about the Law of Attraction. What's a practical thing I could do to deal with the Law of Attraction? Experiment - I'll give it one month of experimenting with regard to my emotional Law of Attraction. So I'll experiment - not this intellectual, "Try, try, try... nothing works." I mean to actually work my way through one emotion that I know that I have inside of me at the causal level and deal with that emotion and notice how that affects my Law of Attraction.

Now once I've done that once, just once, I will have less doubt about the Law of Attraction because I will know whether it actually works or it doesn't work; I'll know whether it's related to an emotion or not. Once I have less doubt, then I can have even more logic in this process and I can say, "Alright let's do this month another one; we'll just see how another one goes."

Now in the end, absolutely everything I've ever taught you, which in actual fact is not my truth anyway but you don't have to believe that, can all be proven by your own experimentation. Now many of you have done this and started to do the experiments. Many of you are still fence sitting a little and not really experimenting. Many of you have a soul suspicion that what I'm saying is true but you're not really sure how to put it into practice and so forth. My suggestion is use some of the logic that you have and stop allowing spirits to hook into your emotions about it all.

10.1.2. An example of a person getting angry with us

You see the way a spirit would hook into your emotion about that is let's say today somebody comes along and yells and screams at you. Now many of us would be tempted to do one of two things, wouldn't we? One thing we would be tempted to do would be to yell and scream back; that doesn't work very well though. So another thing that we are often tempted to do is just withdraw from the person completely. We usually take one of those two actions. So we've got that person out of our lives, that's great, let's go on to the next thing. Now that's what the spirits would like you to do. What does the Law of Attraction want you to do? The Law of Attraction wants you to actually work your way through why you attracted this angry person of that gender being upset and angry with you right now. That's what the Law of Attraction wants you to do, you can experiment with that. (02:46:10)

But the spirits don't want you to do that because they can feel this rage in you about it all being unfair rising up inside of you and this rage about it all being unjust rising up inside of you and what do they want? They feel it's all unfair and unjust too, so what do they want? They want to hook into that, they want to actually now manipulate that into something else, into putting you into a rage or feeling it's all unfair, where, "I'm going to give up," and all those things.

You see they want to now manipulate your doubt rather than you actually building on the logic of what you've already learnt. That's what they want to do. My suggestion to you is that truth is always logical and if it's not making any logical sense, then you need to have a good look as to whether it's making any sense at all. So things need to make logical sense with truth and a spirit doesn't want you to be logical generally - and I'm talking about spirits who are in terrible emotional conditions; they don't want you to be logical. They want you to just express your rage and express your anger and express all these other emotions, so that they can. (02:47:38)

10.2. An example of a man getting angry about the "Divine Love Sanctuary"

Participant: AJ, last week I was in a position of feeling very unfairly treated and all of those sorts of emotions. It was with Graham and I was really angry and the more he stood there, the more angry I got until he left. And I suddenly had this complete feeling of joy and then I just sort of felt it for five minutes or so and I picked up an axe and I chopped a tree in half and I really felt better after doing that. I've never felt joy after anger before. Could that be a spirit influence?

Certainly, where you feel when you're in a state where you've just controlled somebody and you really wanted to, you feel like, "Wow this is a powerful place." This is why we get addicted to the emotion you see. It's a powerful place; it feels great, it feels great to get what you want. That's what we feel, and as a child often the only time we ever felt happy was when we got what we wanted. So we're often acting that out and spirits with us feel exactly the same. So they're just reinforcing that the angry place is the better place to be. (02:49:05)

For a couple of weeks there you were quite angry about some things that I said and remember...

Participant: Not just you.

Well, yeah. And remember the anger is always the vehicle by which you're now allowing spirits to connect to you and express a lot of their stuff as well. Anger never helps you get deeper unless you're fully in your own rage and not projecting it at anyone else, ever.

Participant: Well after the tree came in half... it was already dead anyway. Just to let everyone know in case they have an emotion about that. (Laughter)

"He slaughtered a lot of trees in his time." I misrepresented him again! (Laughter) Go on.

Participant: Yeah, after that I really could feel what was happening then, after I dealt with the anger properly.

Yes and let's look at it at its causal level; obviously there are some dad stuff issues.

Participant: Yes and that's the first time ever in my life that I realised I had father issues. I was relating everything to my mother, and now I believe I've dealt with some of it anyway but not all of it. And of course I had all of these other things happening to my right hand side, getting stung, getting big lumps of wood in my foot and all these things.

God's just saying, "I'm telling you the truth, I'm telling you the truth... ooh you're not listening, you're not listening." (Laughter)

Participant: It keeps coming up and bashing me and then eventually you just get there, hey?

Yeah exactly, and that's often how it does happen. We often are totally oblivious to the truth and then we become aware of what's really going on, but until that time, spirits even in dark condition can easily hook into our stuff. Obviously there was a spirit around you who felt about a dad issue as well and then felt this great happiness at being able to control the dad figure. And obviously for the spirit maybe Graham was a person who was very similar to his dad, and so he felt a real strong feeling. (02:51:09)

Participant: Yes because I could always remember, like with my mother, my unworthiness with my mother was always being suppressed, but with my father I can always remember arguing and trying to get my desires that way and of course that's what Graham was doing to me with this argy-bargy going on.

Yes and the key are for both of you to work through it emotionally. I heard about it because you emailed me, didn't you, expressing some of your rage as a by-product with me. That's what you were doing and a lot of people, by the way, do that - they c.c. me into their argy-bargy with someone else. (02:52:02)

Participant: Yeah, I just thought you were abandoning the sanctuary really; that was my anger with you.

Yeah, and it's not true but it's the feeling you have, but you didn't state that to me.

Participant: No, no of course not.

So you weren't even honest in your feelings with me about that.

Participant: Well again, going further on from that, I was going to send you an email about that particular issue afterwards, but of course once I'd dealt with the anger, it didn't exist anymore.

Exactly, that's the beauty of the emotional stuff, hey? After a while we go, "Oh that was a bit silly, I don't know if I want to do that anymore." (Laughter) And that's really good, that's a good indication that you are getting to the bottom of some of those emotions. (02:52:46)

11. Not projecting anger at ourselves or others can protect us from spirit influence

11.1. Spirits can hook into us hurting ourselves

You see the key to remember is that whenever we want to project our anger at the other person; we are actually in a place of avoiding the underlying emotion. So this anger issue is really important to address. If you want to have protection from spirits, you need to learn to not project your anger at other people or yourself. Now it's very important that you understand the second part - "or yourself". You see many spirits hook into you hurting yourself. There are many spirits in the spirit world that passed because of them hurting themselves. There are many who have suicided, purposely died, because they were in a rage with something. They are often still in a rage with other people and so they just search the Earth for people who are angry with themselves, and what they do is they connect with that person and they will cause you to do all sorts of things out of the rage with yourself. (02:54:19)

Now many people who go on big promiscuous trips in a sense that they don't really care who they sleep with and what goes on sexually in their lives, many of them are being influenced by these kinds of spirits, because when you don't care about yourself and your own emotions you will often do many damaging things for spirits who don't care about you either. So we need to learn to care about ourselves and don't project anger at others or ourselves. Owning the anger inside of you is far different than projecting the anger towards yourself. (02:55:00)

Now when you feel like projecting anger at yourself and when you start hitting yourself and things like that, that is now just acting out how other people have been angry with you and that you feel you're to blame for that. You need to get under the emotion of anger towards yourself and into the grief about yourself. So for example if you feel angry about yourself because of how you look, that is really grief about how you look. It's not anger at all - its grief really and your anger is your avoidance of how bad you feel you look. It's the underlying emotion that we need to get at. (02:55:43)

Now whenever a spirit notices you in a state of rage, and by the way it's really easy in the spirit world to notice because you have all of this stuff coming out of you, that is like reddy brown arrows going out of you everywhere and in particular towards the people you are angry with; they receive those. Now from a spirit perspective, he or she sees you projecting anger and if she or he feels the same kind of anger, they are in business with you at that point. (02:56:19)

Now there are so many people who were on the Divine Love Path who have left the Divine Love Path because of their rage towards myself. Many of you have met some of them and know of them. Now why have they left it? Well in the end the main reason why is because we're not humble enough to feel our own emotions, and we want to blame or we want to be angry instead.

11.2. Desiring to be angry creates violence

This desire to be angry is a major problem on the planet if you think about it. Why is there this constant stuff going on in the Middle East? One person gets hurt, their child dies so they then want to hurt the other person so that their child dies so that they can feel the same emotion they're feeling. Or it would be more appropriate to say so that they can feel the same emotion they're not feeling; they're avoiding.

You see oftentimes what happens is there's one person here who felt hurt by an event, whether it was just or unjust is immaterial, and so what they want to do is to hurt the person who hurt them. Why do we do that? Because we're angry! Why are we angry? Because we don't want to feel our grief, that's the only reason why. So this angry person doesn't want to feel their grief, they want to attack this person so that this person has some grief now. Does this work? Never!

A person who does not want to feel their grief projects anger at another person to hurt them

One illustration in the "Conversations with God book" was one person gets out their hand and slaps them across the face and the other person gets out a knife and tries to knife them. Then the other person gets out a machine gun and blows them away, and this is what it's like. Eventually it even escalates into countries getting out bombs and blowing away hundreds or thousands of people, or the potentiality of even blowing away millions of people at once all from this emotion of rage. (02:58:40)

Are we going to have to learn how to deal with our rage? Yes. If we want to progress towards God, we are definitely going to have to deal with our rage and the way to deal with our rage is to not get in a rage with ourselves or others. You can still feel the rage without projecting it at something, or someone, or yourself, and you will notice the difference when you do that. (02:59:12)

11.3. Receiving protection from God when we're willing to feel

Participant: AJ before when you were talking about when we've got this willingness and the protection is able to come in, in what form does the protection come from God?

Well, firstly when we're willing, our Father can provide us with this protection temporarily that we need from these spirits and obviously prayer is a factor in that, or a desire - remember a longing coming from you. So when you have a longing directed towards God and you're willing to deal with your emotion, now God can actually afford a temporary protection around you from spirits who are harmful. (02:59:50)

Participant: So does that mean, because I sort of swing from one side to the other with this with spirits, can't it be a good thing because the emotions that we've been denying can actually be enhanced, so we have more of an opportunity to feel them?

If we're willing of course, but oftentimes we're not willing and that's why it's happening. So what you're saying is very true; if we're willing the spirit attraction is very beneficial to us and if we're willing we can easily process through the emotion and ironically most of the time we don't then want God to protect us because now we've...

11.4. The Law of Attraction responds to our level of willingness

Participant: Yes well that's what I was thinking; if we've got this protection and we don't have any spirit influence, which I guess I'm feeling might simmer down our emotions a little bit if...

No you see God never changes your Law of Attraction still. So you're still going to get Law of Attraction events obviously. Many of you have seen this, when there's a willingness inside of you to deal with a certain issue, you notice how your Law of Attraction ramps up on the issue? Have you noticed that? You can even be ignorant of the issue for months and months and months and then all of a sudden you're willing to deal with the issue and then all of a sudden in one week you get five different things happen that trigger you in that emotion, you notice that? That's because your willingness has now stepped up a notch. (03:01:10)

Participant: So have those events always been there but just because we're willing to at look that...

Yeah and a lot of times you can detune emotions and avoid the emotion. You see we oftentimes need Law of Attraction events to deal with an emotion; otherwise we might not deal with the emotion. So when we step up a notch on our soul and we have the desire to deal with the emotion, often the Law of Attraction ramps up as a result of that. When we have a desire to suppress the emotion, then our Law of Attraction will also respond to that and our own desire will respond to that too; it will avoid situations that could trigger that emotion for example. (03:01:51)

So if I've got an emotion with my mother to deal with and I don't want to deal with it, the best thing to do is to avoid my mother or do whatever my mother wants. And before that point in time, that's what I would do. As soon as I get a willingness to deal with an emotion towards my mother, I will now stop avoiding my mother and I'll now stop doing whatever she wants, which is definitely going to bring up the issue. Can you see the difference? And often it's these shifts in us that cause the Law of Attraction to ramp up. (03:02:23)

11.5. Owning anger immediately protects us from spirit influence

Participant: So with the spirit influence then, like you were talking about before with the anger particularly, if we just own it straightaway then...

Yep, it will never harm you.

Participant: So we don't need protection from spirits if we're prepared to own it in every single circumstance?

Spot on, no, we don't. That's exactly right, and remember that's what I'm saying; these are the protections. I think you're thinking of them a bit differently than I am and I think most of you are doing this. The way I view these things are, intrinsically they are the protections, not externally, and I'm not really getting that across to everyone. So let's have a look at how I can. (03:03:05)

12. Protection from spirit influence is intrinsic to us, and not an external barrier

When you're in a state of truth, you are intrinsically now in a place where spirits cannot influence you or make you compromise - automatically. So that's a protection. It's not like a big surrounding field around you, the protection is the fact that you're now in the truth of every moment and stating the truth in every moment. So now no spirit can influence you with your shame or your guilt or any of the other emotions that would cause you to avoid truth, or your fear of punishment, or your fear of pain or any of those things, because you're in a state of truth, no matter what. Now no spirit can influence you in that particular regard, that's now a protection for you. It's not actually a wall around you; it's actually intrinsically now inside of you, you have created a protection in you that you cannot be influenced by spirit now in that regard. (03:04:05)

When I become willing, what happens is when I'm willing to deal with an emotion, now this emotion is going to pass through me rather than being projected from me. Now that is intrinsically a protection because now my own emotions are passing through me. Firstly there are no Law of Compensation events affecting me, because I'm not damaging other people any more with that emotion and secondly, now that it's passing through me, I can own my own stuff. And as I'm owning my own stuff, no other spirit can influence that stuff. It's only when I try to not own it that another spirit can influence it. This is the beauty of how God designed you when you own your own stuff; no other person can actually influence you. (03:04:53)

12.1. Gender differences in the approach to the emotional and logical sides to Divine Truth

When I stay in the truth of my logic... and this is particularly important for you ladies. The man you're with didn't create your pain, did he, in most cases? In most cases your pain was created by your childhood experiences. So if you're getting angry with the man you're with, how out of harmony with logic is that? Can you see the illogicalness of that? That is totally illogical to get angry with the man you're with when actually the anger was created by another man who might have passed or who was in your childhood. (03:05:48)

Participant: I just wanted to ask why you directed that at women, because it's definitely what I'm feeling in our relationship.

The main reason why I've directed that at women is because while many times a woman's automatic ability to process emotionally better than a man, she also has a disadvantage with it in the sense that she often believes the emotion to be true. So in other words if I'm angry with my partner, I believe I have a right to be angry with my partner in that moment. Now often the man can see in that same moment that actually, "You are not angry with me, you are angry with your dad," but the woman, because she's so in her emotions, can often not see the logical truth of that. (03:06:38)

Participant: It's exactly what's happening with Monique and I because I keep telling her, "I'm not your father, I'm not your father." And I can see at that point that she's not getting it.

No, and this is the thing where logic can protect you as a woman against hooking into spirits who will just go into total illogical state. (03:06:58)

Now, by the way, emotion as a man can protect you. It's almost the flip side for the man. Many men have huge difficulty getting into their emotions. Huge difficulty! Now every time you don't get into our emotions you can easily be influenced by spirits. Spirits can influence you logically unfortunately to get out of your emotion. So for a man you could say Divine Truth is logical and let's state the full truth; Divine Truth is logical and emotional.

So when the man is just verbalising the truth but not feeling any of it, can you see that's going to drive his woman nuts and understandably so because he is out of harmony with the Divine Truth on the matter, because the Divine Truth is actually emotional as well as logical. The problem comes is that it's both and often what we do is we focus as a gender on one particular side or the other side and this is where we need to stop doing this. (03:08:00)

The men need to understand that they need help from their women often to understand and get into their emotion to do what a woman does with your emotion. Now many of you men have big judgement about that. All of your life you've said women are too emotional; all those different programs that we men have about emotions are all sitting there judging our own emotion. How many of us feel as men, "I'm a man. I don't get emotional"? How many of you have actually said that in the past to yourself? "I'm a man and I don't..." and many women have too. I'm not saying the gender specific thing, but what I'm saying is that many men have a real focus on, a pride even, in never being emotional about the issue, always having logical solutions. That is our error because the Divine Truth is also emotional. (03:08:54)

12.2. Understanding that Divine Truth is logical and emotional can help discern spirit influence

Now when I understand both of those, a spirit cannot now influence me in either. So a spirit can't come along and present us with a heap of logic that sounds really good that stops us from being emotional. There are many spirits in the spirit world who dearly want you to stop being emotional. On the Natural Love Path they want you to stop being emotional; they think it's totally ludicrous. "You're totally stupid being emotional." (Laughter) That's how they feel, with that condescension as well, "Totally stupid," and that's how they really feel inside of themselves, and they will connect to any person who feels it's stupid being emotional and they'll influence you out of every emotion in that place. (03:09:51)

Conversely, there are many spirits who think, "What's this logic crap? There's no logic in the universe." They're quite angry and upset about there being anything that's logical. They don't feel anything is logical and they feel like causal emotions are your goal; they want you to be in your unhealed emotions twenty four seven, just like they are. They want you to be in your terror when you're in your terror, in your shame when you're in your shame, in your grief when you're in your grief, but not about causal matters. They want you to just be emotional twenty four seven because when you're emotional twenty four seven, you can be influenced twenty four seven by the emotions that you're denying, which are the causal emotions. (03:10:41)

So what often happens is that we stay in all these effect-based emotions or we stay in our logical brain twenty four by seven, both of which are out of harmony with Divine Truth. What we need to do is get into the space where we do know that truth is both logical and emotional and we can actually feel these truths happening inside of us. Now when a spirit comes along and says, "Ah, you know AJ's responsible for your anger?" You'll go, "Well that's not very logical. AJ wasn't in my childhood that I can remember; he wasn't my dad." About the only person here in this entire room that can say I'm responsible for their anger towards me is my own son. Nobody else can. Even Mary can't say it about me because I wasn't in her childhood. So the truth is that I'm not responsible for any of your anger aside from my two sons. (03:11:46)

So every time you're angry with me, whatever it's for, you're out of harmony with logic for a start, let alone emotion. So whenever you're out of harmony with logic or emotion that's when spirits can just connect with you. If I stay in it, I can go, "Okay, AJ wasn't my father so there's something going on here." That's all I really need to do, isn't it? In a way, I just need to say, "There's something going on here and it's certainly not to do with AJ, it's got something to do with something else and I need to work my way through that." (03:12:20)

13. Projecting anger attracts many spirits to us

With regard to this anger issue though, can I just say a few more things about it? There are billions of spirits in the spirit world in rage. They're in rage with God, with religion, with science, as well as in rage with their mums, their dads, their brothers, their sisters, just like we've had in our own past. Now as soon as I get into a state where I don't own my own stuff and I get into a state where I want to blame you, and let's face it a lot of the times we do want somebody else to blame don't we? We do, we want to say, "You're to blame for my stuff." We want them to be to the blame because that gets us out of dealing with our stuff. We often do this; so when we're in this state, there's literally a line up of spirits behind you in that state. You can take your pick between a hundred here and a hundred there and often they are in groups like that. (03:13:27)

There are literally millions of spirits in the spirit world who are in a rage with me personally. So every time you get into a rage with me personally, you're going to invite a good proportion of those spirits as company with you. Now is that going to help you with your processing, do you think? Is it going to help you become at-one with God? I don't think so. Every time that happens that's what's going on. (03:13:58)

Now this is why when a public figure does something bad, thousands of people or hundreds of thousands of people project a certain emotion at them, because in the spirit world there's literally hundreds of thousands of spirits who are also upset with authority. So the spirits just want to hammer someone who's a public figure, and they'll use you and your unhealed emotion to do that. Why not, if they can? (03:14:30)

So please think about this. In the Bible there's another good verse on that issue with regard to the suit of armour and it says, "Shod your feet with the good news of peace" and what that really means is this; if you run towards peace you will always be running in the right direction. If you run towards violence or anger, you're always going to be running in the wrong direction. So you need to protect where you're going to run. You need to stop making those steps in the wrong direction with regard to rage and just stop still even. But it would be better if you could walk towards peace and look at what's going on inside of you emotionally. (03:15:21)

14. Faith is one of the biggest protections against spirit influence

Now I know many of you have had your hands up for a while but there's another issue I want to cover before we finish this and it's really important so I need to get onto it. One of the biggest protections that you have available to you is this thing of faith. Now I'd like to describe faith to you. I'm going to do a presentation of faith in entirety at some point, but I just want to describe it briefly to you. Faith is when you know in your heart that something is true but you have not yet experienced it. So it's when you know in your heart that something is true but you've not yet experienced it. (03:16:14)

Now faith is such an important emotion in dealing with spirits because spirits don't want you to have faith. Faith and hope are very inter-related in a way, aren't they? They are not interchangeable, they are different qualities, but they are very inter-related. Now if you have no faith then let's be honest about it. We need to first be honest about what we do have and what we don't have, and if we have no faith that any of the things that you're being presented at the moment are true, and then do you think you're ever going to do them? Of course you're not, and if you have no faith, or very little faith, what will happen is you will be very easily influenced by people around you to do something different. (03:17:10)

So someone comes along and says, "I've got this device and it clears emotions." You'll go, "Oh beauty, I'll try that." Because you don't have faith that you're actually a soul and that no device is going to help your soul. And you don't have faith that God actually created your soul as a perfect piece of equipment already that doesn't need an additional plug-in to work. That is the truth but we don't have faith about that. (03:17:43)

One of the best things we can do in terms of combating spirit influence is to build our faith in God. How many times have you said to yourself in your emotional processing, "I don't know if there's a God anyway"? Or, "I don't know if there's a spirit world anyway. I don't know if any of this is true really." Now often that's not the truth. Often what the truth really is is that inside of yourself you do know the truth when you recognise it, but because it's hard to do, we often want to get out of it. Now spirits work on that. So one of the things I do constantly, myself, is I'm constantly focussing on my faith. My faith in terms that if I keep going, everything is going to come good. (03:18:40)

Now many of you have commented to me that you've seen big changes in me in the time that I've known you. Now that has only happened because I've got faith that those changes are going to happen, because I don't know for certain unless they happen, it's only when they actually happen that faith turns into reality. So there have been many times in my own progression where I've felt hopeless, just like there will be times in your progression. There have been many times in my own progression where I've felt like giving up; where I've wanted someone to help and nobody's helped, and there have been many times in my own progression where I've pleaded for people to help and they haven't. And I've pleaded to God for help and I haven't seemingly got that, because of different emotions that I've had obviously. And each time I've not given up the faith that I'm going to get to the end of this. And if you can do the same thing, that will help you a lot through the hard times that you have; it'll help you a lot through the emotions if you have the faith. (03:19:59)

But if you don't have faith, this feeling inside of you that's something's true even though you haven't yet experienced it, you won't feel very driven to do it when the times get tough, and that's the issue we face. You see times do get tough because we've got all this spirit stuff going on us. And as I pointed out at the start of this discussion we've got all this family stuff going on us, we've got all this friends stuff going on us, we've got all this spirit stuff going on around us and there's one thing we're going to need through all of that, and that is faith that we're going to be able to get through all of that and out the other end; that this family stuff and this spirit stuff and the friend stuff isn't going to crush us; that we're actually going to get through all of this. And if we have faith, that continues the process for us. We continue to deal with our stuff. As soon as we give up on faith, and in particular faith in God, that is the moment that you will actually give up doing this work as well. (03:21:06)

Now there are many people who have heard the truths that you've heard and who have given up, and they've used all sorts of excuses as to why, but one of the main things they didn't have was faith that if they just kept going that everything would actually get better. We've got to learn to develop this quality of faith inside of us. (03:21:31)

And, honestly, faith is not a quality that's easily developed in the spirit world. And in fact when you read through many of the Padgett Messages, you will actually see that many of the spirits have a problem with faith and many of them actually say in the Padgett Messages that if they'd only developed faith while they were on Earth, they would have had a much easier time in the spirit world; faith in God, but also faith in the process that there is something better in the future; that kind of faith. (03:22:12)

14.1. Faith, trust and hope are important qualities to develop while on Earth

Faith, trust and hope are all very important qualities that we need to develop. Now many metaphysicians and many scientific people would argue with you that those three particular qualities are pointless. One of the ways God has designed us is that these qualities are some of the most important qualities to develop while you're on this planet, because it's much easier to develop them on the planet than it is to develop it after you've passed. Can you see why? Well let's look at it. (03:22:50)

Let's say you'd never ever heard of any of these truths you've been presented with over the last two years or five years or however long you've known me. You've never heard any of them and you passed into the spirit world. Can you imagine your own confusion firstly of where you are? Could you imagine that you have no idea about the life you were about to enter? Can you imagine arriving in a place where you don't know anything about anything? The only thing you know is that you've passed and even then you may not even be sure of that. Can you imagine what that feels like? It's one of the most terrifying places to be. (03:23:32)

Now can you imagine trying to get out of that place and develop faith? How hard is it going to be? You're going to be so focussed on the emotion of where you are, where you're at, what's going on, confusion. Can you imagine how many years how many spirits must remain in that place? Where they're not progressing, they're not getting out, in fact they've got no idea how to get out of it, what to do, what things they must do to progress. They've got no idea about anything. Can you see that even just hearing about something and not having faith in it is better than that? (03:24:09)

But imagine if you actually have faith here on Earth that your emotional processing work is what causes you to progress. And it's pretty hard to do here on Earth; you know what it's like. Everyone around projects at you and tells you that you shouldn't be doing it and tells you you're an idiot for doing it and so forth, but if you have that faith and you just keep doing it and you have faith in God and faith in love and faith in the fact that God is Love and those kinds of things, the instant you pass do you think you're going to be afraid? Do you think you're going to worry about your future? Of course we wouldn't, because we've already got all of this faith of what we need to do and all this knowledge of what we need to do. And we also have this feeling inside of us that, "I know this is true," and you can go with that, and it's such a powerful thing. It's a really powerful thing to have that. Imagine not having that. How do you develop it when you didn't have it? (03:25:07)

Now many of the spirits with us in this room who are in a dark place are crying right now, because they never had that; they never had any idea about what the truth was like in the spirit world. They are actually, many of them, locked up in places that are very dark and dingy and very, very dissatisfying and uncomfortable with no idea why they're there, how they got there, where they are going to go, and what they're to do. And many of them connect to us because they have no idea of what else to do, and it all comes because they didn't have a developed faith either when they were on the Earth.

14.2. Faith is like a shield that stops the arrows of malicious people

The Bible says that faith is actually like a large shield that stops the arrows of malicious people. Can you see how that works? The way it says it is that, "It's a large shield that stops the arrows from the wicked one." Can you imagine how that works? If you've got faith do you think somebody saying to you, "You're a stupid idiot for being on that path," is going to affect you? It's not going to affect you at all, is it? If somebody's saying to you, "You're just into a cult now," is that going to affect you? No, it's not going to affect you at all; it's just like part of that arrow went into the shield; it didn't affect me.

When somebody says, "You must be out of your mind; there must be something wrong with you to believe that AJ is Jesus." Now you might not even believe that I am, but whether you believe or not, that arrow isn't going to penetrate you, it's not going to matter to you because you don't need to have faith in me, you need to have faith in God and love and truth; those are the things you need to have faith in. And you saying to yourself, "I have faith in God, love and truth; I have faith in the fact that God wants me to live in this emotionally open place in full of love,' then all of these people who throw this stuff at you are just not going to have any effect on you at all. But you imagine you've just put this shield of faith down for a moment and somebody shoots an arrow at you saying, "You're a stupid idiot for believing that fool," how is that going to affect you now, if you've got no faith? "Maybe I am a stupid idiot. Maybe AJ is a fool," and maybe I am but that doesn't affect your relationship with God. (03:27:50)

14.2.1. An example of accusations that the Divine Love Path is a cult

So at the end of the day, whilst I've got this faith there as a protective barrier, then all of these projections at me, which are like arrows coming into me, can all be repelled, and a spirit isn't going to hook into them anymore. So a spirit's not going to come along and say to you, "AJ is a cult leader," and half of you go into a panic. You look at how many people in the world go into panic when you talk about a cult. It doesn't worry me in the least when I hear the term cult. I go, "Cult, how can there be a cult?" At the end of the day, you've got to give away your own power to listen to somebody else as a cult leader who leads you into taking some Kool aid or something. You've got to give away your own power, don't you? What am I encouraging you to do? Am I encouraging you to give away your own power? What am I encouraging you to do instead? I am encouraging you to actually connect with how you feel, connect with your desires, connect with your feeling and connect with God. Is that giving away your power? No, and I'm saying I'm superfluous to that, you don't need me for that, that's what I'm also saying. So am I wanting to have power over your life? (03:29:04)

Now if you had any faith in that, when somebody says there's a cult, you'd say, "What? How ludicrous!" It wouldn't even enter you, but for many people you see how much it does – like huge amounts, doesn't it? You've just got to say something is a cult. You know the Catholic Church is a cult, by its own definition actually of a cult. (Laughter) So while I don't think there's any problem in the Catholic Church either, in that regard, they're allowed to be a cult and they have a Pope; one leader who basically tells the rest of the Catholic Church in the world what to do (and a lot of it's not even written in the Bible), and what they say they actually follow. This is the truth; I'm just telling you the truth. For all of you Catholics in the audience, I'm sorry, but this is the truth. (03:29:55)

Now I'm not saying don't be a Catholic. What I'm saying is you can change the Catholic religion to be one of truth and love just like any other, but let's stop looking at this verbal stuff that goes on and letting it worry us. If we've got this shield of faith that God is love, I can have a connection with God, I am God's child - these are all basic truths. If those truths enter me emotionally, I will eventually have faith that I can connect to God and I can connect to truth, and I can be in this place where I'm totally connected with myself emotionally. And when I'm in this place, what's going to happen is nobody outside of me is going to be able to negatively influence me in any way unless it's to influence me to be more loving, or it's to influence me to be more truthful. (03:30:51)

15. Closing Words

Now there are many other ways that we can cope with spirit influence but I wanted to raise these ones with you because my feelings are that many of you are under quite severe attacks from spirits. Many of you get quite down about it as well and some of you don't notice when you're under attack from these spirits either, and what I wanted to do is give you a heads up today about what's going on and how to actually deal with this spirit influence and why it's actually occurring.

A spirit cannot influence you without there being an open emotional hook that you have with them. There is something going on that you are hooked into them and often it's not the thing that you think it is. All you need to do is pray about these things and you'll find the truth come to you of what the hooks really are about. And what I've done is listed some things that can protect you against their influence if you desire to be protected, and these things are not external protections in the sense that they are like a barrier, but rather they actually affect you inside of your soul; they cause your soul to be unaffected by these kind of external influences that the spirits will bring to bear. (03:32:10)

Now I don't view spirits as your enemy, I view them as people that I love and want to help if they're in a poor condition. And if they're in good condition, they are spirits that I want to have a relationship with; that's how I view them. I'm not afraid of them, but I'm actually saying to you that there are many spirits who are totally malevolent; they have no desire other than to harm you, just like there are many people on Earth who are also in the same state and who have very little desire other than to harm you, and these are the ways you can protect yourself against either of them, whether they are on Earth in physical form or whether they are somebody in the spirit world in spirit form. (03:33:50)

15.1. Recommended reading

Now you'll notice that the books I mention will be very similar to the ones I've already mentioned and the reason why is because they are some of the best possible ways to understand the interaction with spirits and people on Earth. The best series of books is "Through the Mists", "The Life Elysian" and "The Gate of Heaven" by Robert James Lees. (03:34:36)

Now those three are channelled from a spirit who is now a Celestial spirit. At the time they were written he was not a Celestial spirit, except for the last book, and they describe what he investigated as a spirit in the spirit world. Many of the things he investigated were the inter-relationship between people on Earth and how heavily they're influenced by spirits, and my suggestion is have a good read of those sections when you come across them, because they are very powerful examples of how people on Earth get influenced by spirits and how spirits also get pulled into influence people on Earth.

Something else that's really interesting is "Thirty Years Amongst the Dead" if you haven't already read that.

It's written by a medical doctor who lived in the 1920s and 1930s and his wife was a medium. They are both by the way now Celestial spirits, and when he wrote the book he was obviously not aware of a lot of spiritual truths. But in that book you can see the inter-relationship between emotions and how the spirits hooked into the emotions. When you read this, sometimes the emotions may not be that clear to you why the spirit hooked in, and my suggestion is to really allow yourself when you read it to really feel what the emotion must have been for that particular spirit to connect to that particular person, and you'll find it's very powerful to understand what's going on. That's a very good book. It's a natural love book whereas the others are more Divine Love books if you like. These are all on CDs or download on the website as well. (03:36:25)

Now how many of you have actually read the Padgett Messages in full? Many of you are missing out. The Padgett Messages contain many, many examples of spirit influence and how to cope with it. They also contain many of the truths that I've talked to you about, maybe in a bit more rudimentary form than I've discussed them, but they still contain many of the truths and when you read them, you'll feel quite influenced by them as you're reading them. So if you haven't begun to read the Padgett Messages, my suggestion is to take a bit of time out every day to give that a go. It is so powerful. Those of you who have started doing it that, you can feel that influence? Yeah, definitely a strong way to build your faith. (03:37:21)

Now the one that is probably the best is "The Book of Truths", which Joseph Babinsky has edited.

If you're interested in finding out some very interesting things about spirits, but you're not as interested in finding out about the Divine Truths as much, book number 3 of the 'True Gospel Series' is probably the book to read if you're interested in reading the Padgett Messages. (03:38:03)

By the way when the Padgett Messages were originally produced, they were produced with two and a half thousand messages from spirits. They were then categorised and catalogued and then they were put into four different books basically, and then they were translated into two different forms. So now we have this book of "Angelic Revelations" and then there's the "True Gospels". On The Divine Love website, I've got TG or True Gospel 1, 2, 3 and 4. True Gospel number 3 actually contains a lot of messages from spirits who are not on the Divine Love Path who talk to Padgett about all different things, all different subjects. Very interesting subjects from metaphysical subjects, right the way through to history subjects, and many of them are people that you've known in history in fact that came to Padgett. (03:38:57)

"The Book of Truths" is a chronological or date order of all those messages, whereas the "True Gospels" are not actually chronological order. I think it was called the "True Gospel of Jesus", whatever, volume 1, 2, 3 and 4, and volume number 3 is the volume that's very much about how spirits interact with people on Earth and so forth. You learn a lot of things, but you must be aware it's not in chronological order, so therefore sometimes it doesn't make chronological sense as to what's being dealt with. (03:39:37)

Book number 4 of the "True Gospels" is mostly about soulmate stuff; soulmate feeling, soulmate relationship and so forth, and Book number 1 and 2 of the "True Gospels" is more about the Divine Truths that we try and present to Padgett. So they are not in chronological order though. (03:39:58)

Now there's one other book, it's called "A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands."

Now this is a natural love book, but it's actually a book about a man who is in fairly poor emotional condition when he left the planet. He knew his soulmate while he was on Earth but she wouldn't have a relationship with him because of his condition. She loved him but she wouldn't have a relationship with him because of his condition and he died, he passed. When he passed he obviously passed into the hells and the first two-thirds of the book are about a lot of the spirit interactions and the interactions he had with the people on Earth that influenced him hugely in his progression. The last third is about some Zoroastrian belief systems that he hooked up with in the spirit world afterwards unfortunately. But the first two thirds of the book are very powerful in terms of you seeing the influence that you can have on spirits around you, how you can influence their progression and how much they can influence yours, and also the types of protection systems that can be given to a person on Earth if they are harmonious with love and truth. So it's very good for those kinds of things. (03:42:25)

There are many books that are claimed to be channelled through me; that's fine they can make those claims. There are millions of spirits claiming to be me. So of all people I've probably got the most competition in terms of identity (laughter) and there are many spirits who claim to be me and there are many books that have claimed to have been written by me. Many of them haven't been and that's okay, it's up to the people to determine either way. The ones that I have written were "The Book of Truths" basically; I was involved in that process with Padgett. (03:43:47)

Participant: There's "The Post Mortem Journal" because you've mentioned that while you're talking about books, and also if people want to get that and they haven't got it they can email me and I can just send it to them.

"The Post Mortem Journal" is a spirit account of Laurence of Arabia when he passed. It's quite a good account but again the first half to two thirds is about his emotional processing work that he was encouraged to do and then it starts getting on to some very philosophical arguments about the spirit world again that are not all that accurate, which are Natural Love Path stuff. But the first two thirds again are very interesting in terms of how the person passes and their spirit interactions. There's not so much about the interaction between spirits and people on Earth in it, whereas with "The Wanderer in the Spirit Lands" and all of the Robert James Lees books there's a lot of interaction between people on Earth and in the spirit world, which is very interesting to understand. (03:44:49)

15.2. Preview of the following day's discussion on spirit posssession and obsession

Now tomorrow I will be giving a presentation about spirit possession and obsession called, "Spirit Relationships: Possession and Obsession" just to freak you out! (Laughter) Now it's not true. As a brief introduction to it, what I want to say is that many people on the planet today notice a person who they consider to be a person quite developed in love who claims themselves to be a guru or an avatar or something like that, not understanding how that person actually arrived in that condition. (03:45:40)

Many people trust these people who have had these enlightenment experiences, not understanding what the experience is all about and what's actually going on. And what I'm going to do tomorrow is use the autobiography of David Hawkins to actually illustrate what goes on with many of these people who go through these particular experiences. Then what you can do is you can start to recognise the difference between real development at the soul level and over-cloaking, or possession, which is very, very different from each other and it's very important that that is understood. (03:46:22)

Many of you have expressed to me how people who have said to be highly developed individuals have eventually got diseases or illnesses of some kind before they died, and in fact there was one person who believed himself to be God and got diabetes I think, and died. And there are reasons for every one of these things occurring, because when you are actually developing within yourself without there being a spirit involved, that's when you only make the real development of the soul. For many of these people who are highly admired on the planet for being developed people, when they pass into the spirit world they are often very severely disappointed, because they often arrive in the first sphere condition, disconnected from the spirit they've been connected with all of their life and in a very, very traumatic state. (03:47:20)

So tomorrow I'm going to describe some of those states to you so that you can understand the difference between personal development and developing by having a spirit over-cloak you, which is not really development at all. (03:57:29)

