- This is Curtis Cost and I'm the author
of the book, "Vaccines are Dangerous"
and I've been an activist
on the vaccine issue
for many years.
And we have a distinguished panel here
with our keynote speaker,
Mr. Robert Kennedy, Jr.
And just wanna welcome
everybody to being here today.
I think we're gonna have a great time,
a lot of information is going to flow.
I just wanna say a few
things about Mr. Kennedy.
He is the founder of
Children's Health Defense
which helps children on the vaccine
and many other issues.
He's an environmental lawyer and he's also
author of the book
"American Values" which is
a great book and gives you great insights
on what is such a driving force
in the Kennedy family,
which is one of the issues
that I originally was fascinated by.
And, I something is
popping up on my screen.
I'm sorry.
I admire Mr. Kennedy
as I've said many times
in many different venues for
a lot of different reasons.
He's a brilliant researcher
and most importantly
I think of all is that
he's a true warrior.
I mean, he's the type of
person who has no fear
of going up against giants.
I mean, really powerful forces,
in the defense of the little guy.
I mean, he does this consistently
and there's not a lot of people
who have the courage to take
on pharmaceutical companies and all kinds
of other entities.
So, I wanna say deep in my
heart I really do admire
Mr. Kennedy and he is a constant reminder
to me that there are
forces of good in the world
and I really mean that.
There're times when I'm feeling down
and wonder can we win, all I do is think
about Mr. Kennedy and say yeah, yeah,
we can do this.
And so, Mr. Kennedy, I
wanna say it's a real honor
and I really appreciate
your taking the time
to be with us today.
- Thank you, Curtis.
It's an honor for me to be with you.
- Oh, wow.
I gotta write that down.
Make sure that's recorded.
I gotta, Mr. Kennedy admires me.
But, it's okay, thank you.
I'm gonna go through
the different panelists
we have here.
We do have a very distinguished
group of people here
and I think it's gonna be great.
First, Agneta Wilson, she's coming to us
from all the way from Sweden
and she has a fascinating background
of work she's done through
the UN and humanitarian,
nutrition as well.
I'll turn it over to Agneta and Agneta
can you give us an idea of who you are,
how you got involved with some of this,
give us a good overview?
- Thank you Curtis.
I'm so honored to be here today
and so honored for everything
that Children's Health Defense is doing
and giving so many people,
and children especially,
hope out there, so thank you guys so much,
and Mr. Kennedy.
So, I am Agneta Wilson, Agneta.
My background, as Curtis
mentioned from the beginning
is with the UN where I was working a lot
in post conflict settings.
I was doing trainings
and policy development
and what we did basically was we disarmed
and reintegrated ex
combatants and militia forces
in these settings.
So, mostly in Africa,
South America and Asia.
I've also been teaching
at St. John's University
on Median International
Relations actually,
which is pretty
interesting with everything
that goes on now.
But then, I have a very big
passion for the wellness
movement and holistic
approach to medicine.
I've been doing a lot of, been practicing
mindfulness and a lot of healthy foods
and things like that for many many years,
which also made me recently to go over
more towards that and mindfulness
and starting my own skin care line
that's all sustainable,
clean, toxic free and organic.
So, that's a little bit about me.
And when it comes to vaccines I think
the biggest shock for me was when I became
a mother and I had moved to New York
and when I started looking
into the differences
between the vaccine schedules in Europe
and in the U.S.
That's what made me really start looking
into this and doing all the research
that I have done so far.
So, I think that's it.
- Thank you.
- Hope that was under a minute.
- Don't worry about it,
it's okay, it's okay.
I tell you I wouldn't cut you off.
So, I'm just gonna go in order
as I see it on my screen.
So, Danielle, can you unmute yourself?
- All right.
Danielle, we became good
friends over the past year
around this issue.
She's a true warrior in her own right
and she's constantly
active in her community,
handing out flyers, organizing events
and yeah, whenever I've needed to bounce
an idea off of somebody
Danielle's the person to go to.
And Danielle, I'll just
turn it over to you.
Tell us a little bit about yourself,
how you got involved in this.
- Well, thanks for having me here and it's
a pleasure to be here with all of you.
Mr. Kennedy, I wanna personally thank you
for all you have been
doing and continue to do.
So, I'm a mother first and foremost.
That's my main motivation
for this activism
I've been involved in
this past year especially.
I'm also a teacher and yeah, I'm all
about health freedom, all of that,
children's health especially lately
as we've seen the decline
over the years, many years.
I too, like Agneta, am
into the holistic approach,
almost finished with my
aromatherapy certification,
so I make all my, every skin product
you could think of,
everything, everything,
from toothpaste, you name it,
it's there, chemical free.
I recently, well this
year, spoke on the, well,
at the Harlem Vaccine Forum with Curtis
as well as I was part of the debate team
on the, well, let's just
say I was on the debate team
at the Harlem, the great Harlem debate.
So, that was an honor
and thank you for that.
Once I started researching
the dangers of vaccines
that was it for me.
I mean, what I've
learned was just, I mean,
was mind boggling and I felt the need
to have to share that.
But more importantly, to be honest,
because of my own children.
So, the more it went down that rabbit hole
the more, you can't get out and you have
to share it and more importantly,
the fact that they're
mandating this for people
is just, people need to really understand
what's going on here.
I mean, I've been out
there demonstrations,
talkin' to politicians,
handing out flyers,
talking to parents,
organized two vac screenings,
one with Curtis.
So, yeah it's really important
that we be the voice,
at least for the kids,
the next generations ahead
because what's happened
is just, I'm speechless.
- Great, thank you.
I just wanna tell everybody 'cause I know
I took a little bit of
time with the introductions
and everything else, we
have to keep the intros
really short, like 30 seconds or so.
Then we'll come back to you
because we gotta move along.
Okay, the next person, Mr. Rosenberg.
He's my former sixth grade teacher
and mentor for years.
He helped me get into
some of the great schools
I've gotten into.
He's worked primarily in the poor
black, Latino communities.
He's helped literally thousands of kids
get on the right track.
He's gotten all kinds of awards.
And so, Mr. Rosenberg.
- Well, thank you for
that introduction, Curtis.
Yes, I've been with the
New York City School System
for 45 years as a teacher,
counselor, principal,
consultant, but certainly my biggest claim
to fame is as Curtis's teacher.
(laughing)
Just to clarify something,
Curtis was my student
in both the sixth grade
and the eighth grade
and I think at this
point we've reversed role
because Curtis has now become my teacher
in all things health,
even though I've proven
sometimes to be a resistant student.
I think you'll agree with that, Curtis.
It's a pleasure to be here.
- Thank you.
Dr. Aaron Lewis, we met a
few months ago in Hartford.
He's read my book.
He's very active on the vaccine issue.
I'll let him talk for himself.
Dr. Lewis.
- Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here.
I am Dr. Aaron Lewis,
so I'm a humanitarian
and a pastor, I'm a
senior pastor of a church
and I'm an activist on
human rights issues.
I've been to 61 countries and I deal
with health reform as
well as education reform,
the two areas that are most targeted
in developing nations, I
like to call them developing
'cause I think that
America's developing as well,
but at any rate, I got into the movement
because many years ago when I began having
children, they're all
adults now, five of them,
my oldest daughter who's
now finishing medical school
and getting ready to go to
Purdue for her internship,
residency, so I'm proud of her.
But, when she was a little child
I didn't want my kids vaccinated.
I didn't want them to have
any of that inside of them
and that was 28 years ago
and I was very very aware
of that and now it's a whole lot worse
than it was 28 years ago.
So, I was committed to the movement
and what I saw overseas and
trying to vaccinate children
and the fact that these vaccines were
so dangerous for them.
So, that's my short intro.
- Great, thank you.
Last you, I know it's
gotta be brief everyone.
Alix, are you there?
- I'm here.
Yeah, I'll start my video for the intro.
Hi, I'm Alix Meyer.
I'm on the Board of
Children's Health Defense
National and I'm also a Board member
of the forming California chapter
and I'm the president of the Board.
I was vaccine injured as an adult in 1996.
I was brain damaged
and physically disabled
and I've about 80% recovered and I'm happy
to be here for this call
as long as I can stay on.
- Yeah, great.
Last one, administrator,
Christina Christian.
Can't hear you.
- Christina Christian here.
I'm a California CHD Board member
as well as a national board member.
Pleasure to be here and
I'm a chemistry professor
and a Human Rights
Health Freedom Advocate.
- Excellent.
Okay, I know the introductions
went a little bit long
and part of why we've got
such distinguished people here
is kind of hard, we
have just long resumes.
Mr. Kennedy, any time you're ready.
Can you hear me?
- He's muted.
- Okay, can you hear me, Mr. Kennedy?
- Yeah.
- Okay great.
Well, once you're get the
floor, I'm gonna ask you
a few questions and
then after that I'm just
gonna turn it over to the panel
to ask their questions and
we'll see what happens.
First question is, how dangerous,
can you give us an idea of how dangerous
you would say COVID-19 really is?
'Cause there's a lot
of conflicting reports
from saying it's the worst thing
that's ever happened to human race
to it's no worse than a bad flu season
or even less than that.
And so, if you were to
compare it to a flu season
and whatever markers
you would like to use,
can you give us an idea just how serious
COVID-19 really is?
- Yeah, I mean, I really don't know
any more than anybody else.
As I read the studies that are coming out
I've read the Stanford reports
that came out this week
and there's another very persuasive report
out of England that looked at the WHO data
and they're essentially
saying that, that we probably
have a case fatality rate of .2, I mean,
there's some reports that
say .16, which is very low.
It's lower than a seasonal flu.
.2, which is something
like a seasonal flu to .3.
Originally they were,
you know Neil Ferguson,
who is a Gates epidemiologist who has
a very notorious reputation
for over estimating
pandemic case fatality rates,
was estimating that we would lose,
that we had a case fatality
rate that could have been
three out of every hundred people.
So, that's more than 10 times what now
the best reports are suggesting,
and that we would lose 2.2 million people
in the United States.
And I think they were gonna
lose 250,000 in England.
And those reports
clearly were exaggerated.
You know, I think it's clear
that the pandemic is real,
and there are people dying from
it who should not be dying.
But, to me the real question is
what should our response be?
And what are the counter
measures to control the pandemic?
And that is where I'm most frustrated
because I think it's
clear that the quarantine,
which is the counter
measure that we've chosen,
the strategy that everybody
has kinda bought into,
clearly appears to be
killing a lot more people
than the, than COVID.
So, the British Health Service last week
released a report that looked at deaths
over the previous five
weeks in nursing homes,
which are about 80% of the deaths.
They called them elderly
care facilities in England.
They had 30,000 excess deaths.
In other words, deaths that normally
would not have happened this time of year
and 10,000 of those were from COVID.
20,000 were deaths from isolation.
Quarantine killed twice
the number of people
as COVID killed, because
those were seniors
who were not getting to hospitals.
They couldn't get
checkups for hypertension,
for diabetes, for cancer, for
kidney failure, et cetera,
and that's what ended up killing them,
the lack of access to doctors
or to other kinds of care.
There's a I think the worst fatalities
are gonna come from unemployment.
We studied in our country,
we devoted a lot of energy
to studying the effects,
the social effects
of unemployment back in the early '80s
when a lotta these big
corporations were downsizing
and there's a very very strong report
that has been cited in
hundreds of publications
since, I think it's called
Bamberg, but it actually
put in part of a book
and that report suggests
that for every additional
one point in unemployment
there will be 37,000 excess deaths.
A lot of those deaths,
about 9000 of those 37,000
will come from heart attacks.
About 900 will come from suicides.
And so, if you multiply that times 30
because we're supposed
to, best projections now
we're gonna have a 35% unemployment rate
up from 3.2%.
That means that just from unemployment
we're gonna kill about 1.1 million people
compared to maybe 100,000
or 150,000 from COVID.
Five to 10 times the number will be killed
through unemployment.
Here in California,
one of the big hospital
chief supervisors said recently,
told ABC News that they
are seeing 12 times
the number of suicides that they,
'cause people die from despair, as well.
Alcohol sales are up 600%.
Suicide rates in the last
12 months in California,
according to this doctor,
we had in one month
we had an entire year of suicides.
There's a report from
South Africa that says
that the quarantine will kill 29 times
the number of people that
were killed by COVID.
So, the problem is the democrats and Trump
are saying we gotta listen to the science.
And by that they mean we gotta listen
to Tony Fauci.
Tony Fauci is an immunologist
and a virologist.
He may be able to give us an estimate
of how many people die
from a variety of scenarios
from COVID, of different
lockdown scenarios.
He may be able to do that.
He has not done a good job of it so far,
but let's say he does.
He is absolutely incompetent to tell us
how many people will
die from unemployment,
from despair, from disruptions, food chain
and the supply chain
for food and medicines
and from long term injury
of borrowing $5 trillion.
Already in California they're gonna have
to dismantle the whole
New Deal in this country.
Here in California, in
order to pay the debt
from COVID, Evan Newsom
is cutting $10 billion
from the education budget
and firing 57,000 teachers.
We're gonna see, when these states
have to pay back this debt,
you're gonna see the absolute destruction
of all the New Deal great society,
the new frontier social programs
that created the middle
class in this country.
You're gonna see the
destruction of daycare,
of women with infant children program,
of the food stamp program,
of education, of housing,
of school lunches, of school sports,
of Medicare, of Medicaid,
of Social Security,
all of those programs are gonna be gutted
over the next 10 years and a
lotta people are gonna die.
And nobody is doing that risk assessment
and that's the big problem, Curtis,
is that nobody is even
pretending to do it.
You don't see it talked about on the news.
They talk about people dying from suicide
and they characterize it
as an artifact of COVID.
It's not from COVID.
They're dying from quarantine.
And what we need to
start asking ourselves is
how many people are dying from quarantine
and how many people are dying from COVID
and let's see those numbers on the screen
every night so people understand
the impact of the policies
our political leaders
are choosing for us.
- Absolutely frightening.
I appreciate the fact that you've written
a lot of issues that even those of us
who are researching this topic,
some of those statistics
you just mentioned
I wasn't even aware of, I'm
sure many others weren't.
The next question I'd like to ask you is,
how successful have past attempts been
at developing a coronavirus vaccine?
I know you've written
about it, talked about it.
Can you explain, give an overview
of just what were those
past attempts like?
What impact, when they tested
those coronavirus vaccines,
what impact did it have on the animals,
the ferrets that they tested on?
What impact did those?
- Well, let me kind of
answer the bigger question.
- Okay.
- The one you didn't ask,
but it's part of that,
which is, what are the chances
that we're gonna get a corona vaccine
that actually does what
people believe it's gonna do?
All of the people who are saying, yeah,
we're gonna stay isolated
til we get this vaccine,
what are the chances that
that actually happens?
And what I would say to you is the chances
of that are practically zero.
What they think a
coronavirus vaccine will do
and what Fauci and Gates
have all been leading us
to believe that it will do
is you give one vaccine,
one vaccination to each person and nobody
will ever get coronavirus again.
It protects you, a single
vaccine will protect
you for life and there
will be no side effects,
or no significant side effects.
In other words, the side effects would be
one in a million or less.
And the chance of that happening are,
in my view, zero.
We've had a flu vaccine in
this country since 1930.
That's 90 years.
And we've had a lotta time
to fine tune it, to tweak
it, to improve it, and every year there is
thousands and tens of thousands scientists
and researchers working on
making it more effective.
The Conquering Collaboration,
which is the biggest,
the ultimate arbiter of medicine safety
and pharmaceutical science safety science.
It's a collaboration of
30,000 top scientists
around the world who oversee
pharmaceutical industry science.
And the Conquering Collaboration went out
and looked at several hundred flu studies.
They did a meterview in 2010 and 2014
to say, to answer the question,
is the flu vaccine actually working.
Here's what they concluded.
You have to give 100 flu shots
to avoid one case of flu.
Now, every year the CDC will say
the flu shot is 37% effective.
What that means is, that
rather than one flu shot
every, for every, 100 flu
shots to your one person,
you are averting one case of flu
in 1.37 cases.
So, it's not authentic 37%.
It's just 37% of baseline
and the baseline is that 100 shots
have to be given to avert one case of flu.
And what Conquering said
next was even more damning,
which is there's zero evidence
that the flu shot is
preventing any hospitalizations
or any deaths.
What that means is that they are stopping
a teenager from getting flu symptoms.
And who cares about that?
Nobody would take 100
shots to avoid flu symptoms
in one teenager and save no lives.
Conquering's done a series of studies
that show that the more
flu shot that we have
the greater the death
rate in senior citizens.
They're the ones who are
mainly getting this flu shot.
It was the case, CDC's case for selling
the flu shot to all of
us was that it would
prevent deaths in the elderly
and it would prevent transmission.
What Conquering Collaboration found was
that when you get the flu shot
you are actually transmitting it.
You're transmitting it at six times
the rate of people who
don't get the flu shot.
So, you are more likely to
transmit it if you got the shot.
Finally, what the Conquering
Collaboration found,
after looking at every published study
on the flu that they could find, was
that if you get the flu shot
you are more likely to
get a non-flu infection.
So, it looks like the flu in many cases.
So, coronavirus, you're more likely to get
Coxsackie virus, many many other of these
injuries that affect
the upper respiratory,
viral upper respiratory infections.
And there was a pentagon
study that came out
which I know you know about this year,
in January of 2020,
where the pentagon said,
we're gonna see, because they do a lot
of vaccine studies for military readiness.
They said, let's see if the flu vaccine
will prevent people from
getting coronavirus.
So, they gave a lot of
soldiers the flu vaccine.
And then, they gave the
same number no flu vaccine
and then they watched what happened.
And what happened is the ones that got
the flu vaccine were 36% more
likely to get coronavirus.
And by the way, you
don't just get one shot.
You gotta get a flu shot every year.
And Tony Fauci, if you
read between the lines
in what he said, two weeks ago he said,
to tell you the truth, when
we do get a coronavirus
it probably won't last more
than two or three months.
What is he saying there?
He's saying, no, we're not gonna get one
that's gonna give you lifetime protection.
He's saying, maybe we'll have to give
it to you every three
months or every year.
And so, this idea, this magical thinking
that people have that
we're gonna get this shot
and everything's gonna
be solved, it's not.
It's gonna mean a lotta shots
and a lot of injuries.
Now, let me just finish by addressing
the first question you asked,
which is the question
of pathogenic priming.
Coronavirus has a vaccines in the past
have had a unique
challenge and peculiarity,
which is when they've given
the coronavirus vaccines,
and they've developed
many many different
varieties, but in every case
when they give it to humans or to ferrets,
which is the animal most
analogous to human beings
and so they use it extensively
in testing coronavirus,
when it comes to upper
respiratory infections.
When they give it to
them they get a very good
antibody response initially,
and that's the metric
by which vaccines are licensed.
When FDA gives you a license for a vaccine
it doesn't take 5000 people,
give 'em the vaccine,
5000 people no vaccine, and
send them out into society
and see what happens,
see who gets more infections.
That study has never happened,
pre licensing, never.
The way you get a license,
they give you the injection
and then they take
your blood, they see if you
got a serological response.
In other words, if you
have antibody production.
If you get antibody production
that is sufficiently robust
and durable, then they
give you the license.
So in 2002, we had a SARS,
we had three SARS pandemics
in a row and all of these
nations got together,
China and the western nations and said,
let's make a coronavirus vaccine
and they made a whole
bunch of different ones
and there were 35 different models
and they chose the best
in class, the best four.
They gave it to ferrets.
The ferrets got beautiful
antibody response,
but then something horrible happened.
When they exposed those
ferrets to wild coronavirus,
the ferrets died,
and they were shocked
and they realized that they were producing
an antibody that actually
was not defending
the body against the virus,
it was making the virus sticky
so that it would stick, it would bind
to your receptors and prime your body
to get much sicker than if you got
no vaccine at all.
The vaccinated people and
the vaccinated ferrets,
the unvaccinated ones did fine.
The vaccinated ones sickened and died.
Then they remembered that in the 1960s
they had tried a MERS vaccine,
a Middle East Respiratory
Syndrome vaccine,
syndrome vaccine on children
and they had skipped the animal studies
and they got a great
antibody response in 35 kids.
Then those kids got exposed to MERS,
the wild MERS, and the kids all
got really horribly sick
and two of 'em died.
When the ferrets died, they thought,
that's what happened to those children.
They got pathogenic priming.
We are producing the
wrong kind of antibodies.
We're producing binding antibodies
instead of neutralizing antibodies.
The binding antibodies
make the virus stick
to your receptors and kill you.
And they shut off those studies in 2012.
Then in 2014, Senofi, Senofi,
a French pharmaceutical company developed
a vaccine in conjunction with NIH
for dengue fever, and
they, during the course
of developing that vaccine they saw
some of those signals
for pathogenic priming
and they ignored them.
And then they gave the vaccine to hundreds
of thousands of Filipino
kids and 600 of them died.
It's a big scandal today
in the Philippines.
There's 19 people, health workers,
there who are being criminally prosecuted.
And that is the problem.
It is pathogenic priming
and the weird thing here is
because obviously, if you have a risk
of pathogenic priming you wanna try
the vaccine out on animals first.
What they did, they skipped
the animals altogether
and Fauci's vaccine called dero vaccine
and the Oxford vaccine,
I kept seeing references
to animal studies and
I kept saying, oh well,
Greg Pollard, who's doing those, at least
he did animal studies,
that's a good thing.
And then, apparently it
indicated it was ferrets,
so I thought they must
have passed the test
for pathogenic priming.
Yesterday I actually
got a look at the study.
How many ferrets did they test on?
'Cause ferrets are not
an expensive animal.
You can go down to a pet store
and you can get ferrets for
about, I don't know, $30.
And then if you wait for about six weeks
they're gonna have babies and you can get
all you want for free, I've done it.
And so, you'd think if they
were gonna do it on ferrets
they would've done a lotta ferrets.
Do you know how many
ferrets Greg Pollard used
to make the Oxford vaccine?
Two.
That's not science.
And we have no idea
whether there's gonna be
pathogenic priming at this
point and they're testing
it directly on humans,
which is criminally reckless, in my view.
- Thank you.
Related to that, because
you know Bill Gates
is very much behind the COVID vaccine,
the COVID-19 vaccine,
as a little background,
could you share with us what has been
the impact in Africa and India
from the vaccine campaigns
of Bill and Melinda Gates?
What impact has there
been in terms of health
of the people they've
given the vaccine to?
- That, Curtis, that's a long story
because Gates' control of WHO has been
kinda the reimposition of
colonial control in Africa.
And the amount of really wretched scandals
that he's been involved in in Africa
with the vaccines have been, it's so long
it's hard to make a list.
The polio vaccine that
he tried in the Congo
created an epidemic of polio in the Congo
that's now the worst polio
epidemic in the world.
Oh, he said, I'm gonna eradicate polio.
Instead, 70% of the polio on earth today,
according to WHO, is
coming from Gates' vaccine.
He killed I think 500 kids
in a vaccine trial in South Africa
on a meningitis vaccine.
It's called the MenAfriVac vaccine
and the South African government said,
he's treating us like guinea pigs.
He added another, a
malaria vaccine he tried
in seven countries, killed hundreds
and hundreds of children.
The worst thing he's
done is the DPT vaccine,
in my view, the diptheria,
tetanus and pertussis vaccine
is the most widely
distributed vaccine in Africa.
It's given to 161 million
African kids every year.
It is the flagship
vaccine for Gates and WHO
and what you have to understand,
Gates is the biggest donor
to WHO, he's much bigger
than the United States.
People say he's second
to the United States,
but the United States
gives $800 million a year.
He gives, if you look
at his contributions,
Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation contributions,
UNICEF contributions, which
are funneled through him
and Rotary International and Gavi,
it's probably around a
billion dollars a year
he gives them, and that gives him control
over, first of all, it's
tax deductible money.
So, he's using our dollars to control WHO.
And then, it gives him
control of $5.6 billion
that WHO distributes around
Africa and Asia every year.
So, it allows him to dictate the agenda.
So what he's done is he's moved the agenda
away from things that
WHO were genuinely great
that they used to be
involved with, sanitation,
nutrition, economic development,
women's rights, all those things,
those things have been shrunk
in order to expand his belief
in patentable vaccines.
Remember, if there's a
vaccine and it's not patented
Gates doesn't like it.
He only likes the vaccines
and he gets rid of 'em
and replaces them with more
expensive patented versions.
Outland Rich, which is
the company he's invested
in, which is the four
big vaccine companies,
Merck, NLV, GSK and Pfizer and then some
of the others like Statens
Serum Institut, et cetera.
It's really a colonial move for him
and the vaccine industry
has been experimenting
on African children for many,
from the beginning of time,
that's what they did.
So, Gates can go, the
WHO is supporting these
health ministries in Africa.
Those health ministries,
the health department
in each of those countries, 62 countries,
cannot function without WHO money.
They need that money.
WHO also supports the HIV campaigns
in those countries,
which again, is critical
for those countries
and it was almost
certainly the vaccinologist
who introduced HIV to Africa.
Anybody who doubts that should read
Edwin Hooper's book, "The River."
That's another subject.
So, what Gates does is he
goes to these countries
and he says, you have
to give the DPT vaccine
to 98% of the kids in your country
and if you fail, we're gonna cut off
the money to your health ministry
and your HIV program.
So the countries have to go along.
I know this because a friend of mine
is the prime minister,
former prime minister
of Bouton and he tried to stop giving
the MMR vaccine which he believed
was causing autism to the kids in Bouton
and as soon as he did
that, WHO went to him
and said, we're gonna cut
you off every other aid
if you don't do that.
So that's how they
blackmail these countries.
They force them to get the DPT vaccine,
which is diptheria, tetanus and pertussis.
This is a vaccine that is banned
in the United States and Europe.
White people do not take this vaccine.
And it was banned in our
country in the late '80s.
The reason we passed
the Vaccine Act in 1986,
was 'cause the DTP vaccine was killing
and injuring, giving brain
damage to so many children.
And then, we banned the DTP.
And so, WHO continues to
use the vaccine companies
and Gates continues to
give it to 161 million
kids in Africa.
And Gates publicly says,
I've spent $10 billion
on vaccines, I've saved
eight million lives.
He has no science to show that.
If he did that would be great,
but he cannot show you
a study that shows that.
So, the Danish government said,
we're gonna do that study
and they hired, they went
into, they funded a study
with the Norwegian government
and with the Statens
Serum Institut of Denmark,
one of the largest
vaccine companies in Europe.
They hired a bunch of
scientists, pro vaccine,
Peter Aaby, Morgenson, a
bunch of very very famous
people, iconic vaccine researchers.
They sent them to the
nation of Guinea-Bissau
and they said, let's look,
because Guinea-Bissau
had a very complicated algorithm
for giving kids vaccines.
It turns out between two months of age
and five months of age
exactly half the kids
in the country were
vaccinated and half were not.
It was a perfect natural experiment
and they had 30 years of data.
They went back and they looked at the data
and what they found was
that the vaccinated children
had, girls, vaccinated girls,
had death rates 10 times
the unvaccinated children
and there was a lot of people dying,
because Guinea-Bissau, 50% of the kids die
before age five, so they
had a lot of mortality.
And the girls were dying
of things that nobody
had ever associated with vaccines.
They were dying with pneumonia and malaria
and none of them were
dying with diptheria,
tetanus or pertussis, they
were inoculated against it.
They were dying of a brand of infections
and anemia and dysentery
and mainly pneumonia.
Nobody had ever connected the dots
and said the only ones who were dying
were the ones who got the vaccine.
And Peter Aaby was one of the authors
that went to WHO and said, you gotta stop
giving this vaccine.
We are killing these kids.
Millions of kids are getting
killed, it's genocide.
And it's Gates and Gates and WHO reacted
by punishing the scientists,
by trying to silence them.
Peter Aaby gave a press
conference in which he said,
people think we know
what we're talking about.
We have no idea what we're doing.
Let me give you one last example.
I know I've talked too long.
- No, no, no, that's great, yes.
- Let me give you one other example
to show you kind of the deliberation
that takes place, and Bill Gates
has a long history of
preoccupation with population
and I agree with him on the principle,
that population is something
that we need to figure out
a way, something to do about.
The way that you deal with population,
we all know it, is you empower women.
A woman who can get a job
is not gonna have six children.
And that's why, and if
she has career and a job
and she has something to do she is not
gonna have nine or 14 or even four kids.
And the developed countries
where women have opportunity,
the fecundity rate has dropped
below population replacement.
So, it is a way to deal with it.
You don't deal with it by hiding chemical,
by surreptitiously chemically sterilizing
people by pretending
you're vaccinating them.
And you know, Gates' father was the head
of Planned Parenthood and his whole life
he's talked about this.
His whole life he had this preoccupation
with population control.
So, in 2014 Gates and WHO did
a tetanus vaccine campaign in Kenya.
They gave a tetanus vaccines
to a million Kenyan women
before they were stopped.
And, the doctors in
Kenya became suspicious
almost immediately because
of a number of things.
One, they said there is no
tetanus outbreak in Kenya.
We have an emergency with
a lot of other diseases,
but tetanus isn't one of them.
And so, why are we spending
all these resources on tetanus?
Number two, the campaign
only targeted women
of childbearing years,
girls from nine years old to 39 years old.
And the doctors said, wait a minute,
young girls also get tetanus
and old ladies get tetanus
and men get tetanus more than anybody,
or at least as much.
A lotta women get it in childbirth,
but men get it, too.
Why aren't we inoculating them?
And the number three, it was a four dose,
five dose campaign.
So, they had to give, within a few months,
five different shots to each of the women.
And everybody knows that tetanus lasts
for 10 years, one shot.
And then, finally, the
women who were pregnant
and got the shot, a lot of them had
spontaneous abortions and miscarriages.
And then the women who got the shot
and weren't pregnant
could not get pregnant.
And the Catholic Doctors Association
got a hold a lotta the vials
and they sent them to six different WHO
certified labs to test them
and every one came back with
human gonadotropic hormone,
which is a sterilization
agent and had been
surreptitiously put in those vaccines
and the tetanus that was in those vaccines
does not add to prevent tetanus,
rather it's a carrier, carried
that chemical sterilization
agent into the women's bodies.
And you know, then we
look back and realize
Gates had been funding these programs
all over Africa for years, 57 countries,
he'd been doing it.
We couldn't get a hold of the vials
because those are old programs
that happened, but they
were the same programs
where they do three to five shots
of what they call tetanus
and only give it to women
of childbearing years.
Then in Ghana he did an
experiment with deprivera,
which is another chemical
of sterilization agent
on women in that country
and he's still giving
deprivera, funding it to women,
a different lower dose.
This was extremely high dose.
And so, those are I think, we can't look
into Gates' head and see what he's up to,
and tell what is his mindset.
You can look at that action and say
something's wrong with this guy.
'Cause nobody who has empathy or ethics
would engage in that kind of program.
This is kind of diabolical.
- Whew, thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
We gotta get this out there far and wide
'cause a lot of people need to know this,
especially in Africa and African Americans
and everyone else.
It's time I think to
open up to everyone else
to speak, so I'll just start with Agneta,
are you ready?
Agneta.
- Yes, sorry, thank you.
- So could feel free to ask your question
to Mr. Kennedy.
- Okay, thank you so much.
So, I think my question is
just because I recently,
as I mentioned, returned back to Sweden
and the conversations and
the way that media is,
the media's response here
has been extremely different
from the way that things
are being discussed
and just responded to in the U.S.
And I followed kind of the Swedish case
for quite some time now and I feel like
they are really,
not trying, they're very
concrete with everything.
They come up with information.
They're extremely prepared for everything.
They are very calming to the citizens.
They're very very
transparent with everything
that they're doing constantly
and this is actually not
what I saw in the U.S.
So, I guess my question to you is,
do you find that media has handled
the crisis well or do you think
that they could have done a better job
and what could they have done differently?
- Well, it's reprehensible
what the American media
has done, but we've seen this
with the American media for years,
the censorship and.
In 1997 we passed a law in this country
that, or FDA changed its regulation
to allow pharmaceutical companies
to advertise on TV.
And suddenly there was, there's only one
other country that allows
that, that's New Zealand.
So, there was a flood
of pharmaceutical money
and it gave them not only advertising,
but control of content.
So, Anderson Cooper is sponsored by Pfizer
and Erin Burnett is sponsored by Pfizer.
Lester Holt is sponsored by Merck.
And they've become just
pharmaceutical reps.
They push vaccines in flu season.
The push vaccines in measles.
There's no questions.
There's no science.
There's no other side.
Everything is censored.
And I'll give you an example of that.
Roger Ailes told me,
he said, look, there's
22 ads on my evening news
and 17 of those are vaccine makers.
And he said, if any of my hosts allow you
on their show to talk about this
and I didn't fire them I would get a call
from Rupert within 10 minutes.
And he meant Rupert Murdoch who owns
the biggest vaccine company in Australia.
But, they're all dependent
on vaccine revenues
and they're all subservient
to pharmaceutical company agendas.
Let me just give you one example.
The modera vaccine which
is Tony Fauci's baby,
it's the R&A vaccine
that's made in Cambridge,
and Fauci's been funding it since 2010.
Gates is funding it.
It's experimental vaccine
and there's a lot of problems with it.
But anyway, he decided,
recklessly in my point of view,
to go directly to human trials.
They went and did them in Bill
Gates' home town of Seattle.
And they got 45 volunteers, 15 of them
in a low dose group,
15 of them middle dose
and 15 in the high dose group.
In the 15 in the high dose group
they, the trial lasted for 45 days.
Three of those people
became what they call
seriously ill, class three illness.
That means hospitalization or
medical intervention required.
So, that's 20%
which is makes that vaccine so you could
just throw it away 'cause there's no way
we should be giving that
to a million people.
Now, the low dose group, one out of 15
got seriously ill,
which is in dish of what they call
a dose related response.
With the low group there's illness,
but fewer illness than
is with the high group.
There are much more illnesses.
It indicates that vaccine
is acting like a toxic.
And 20%, you have to
remember, even if they never
give anybody the high dose, the people
who are getting sick were, these were
like super heroes.
If you wanna get into that vaccine program
you can never have smoked a cigarette,
you can never have drunk moderately.
You can have no autoimmune
disease in your family.
No obesity, no diabetes, no vaping,
no chronic diseases, rheumatoid arthritis,
no seizures, no co-morbidities.
And so, these people they
look like the Avengers,
bullets wouldn't hurt
them, much less a vaccine.
These are like the best
of the best of the best
of the best, these guys and yet 20% of 'em
got so ill that they
had to go to a hospital.
Imagine if they give that
to seven billion people.
That's like one and a half billion
would go to the hospital
or, and it's only 15 people
that were given that dose.
So clearly some people are gonna die
of something that is reactogenic.
So, remember if one in 10,000 die,
that's 750,000 people you're killing
with a vaccine.
It's gonna be competitive
to what ultimately,
at those rates, compared
to what COVID kills.
So, one of those guys you have all seen.
His name is Ian Hayden and he went
and did all the television shows
and they all interviewed him and he said
I participated in this and
he was treated as a hero,
which he should've been.
He was doing something
that was very dangerous,
whether he knew it or
not, he was volunteering
for humanity, for something dangerous.
It turns out he had some conflicts.
He had something, he has
ambitions in healthcare
reporting field, et cetera.
So, he went to, within 12 hours of him
getting that vaccine, according to him,
he spiked 103.2 degree fever.
He was vomiting uncontrollably.
He had uncontrollable chills
and horrible body aches.
He lost consciousness.
He fell on the ground and
luckily his girlfriend
was there to catch his head
or it could have been catastrophic.
And when he called his case worker
and the case worker said
call 911 immediately.
He described himself as being the sickest
he's ever been in his life.
He goes on a week later,
he goes on CNN
and in the Green Room
he tells Sanjay Gupta,
who is a doctor, he confides in him
and says, here's what
happened to me really.
And Sanjay Gupta and him then say,
you know what, let's not talk about this
when we get on the air.
Let's just say good
things about the vaccine
and that's what they did.
- Wow.
- And they went and they
lied to the American public
about this rather than tell the truth.
And, Sanjay Gupta, should lose his job
and if we lived in a society
like we were 10 years ago
he would've lost his job immediately
for covering that up.
But, that's what happens every day
in every show on TV.
We're getting nothing, you
don't get truth about masks.
Listen, I am no, I don't have any opinion
on hydroxychloroquine.
I think, I was on
hydroxychloroquine a lot of my life
because of malaria.
I had no adverse effects from it.
I was traveling in Africa
when I was a little boy
and I was taking that my whole life.
So, I'm not scared of hydroxychloroquine,
but I don't know whether it cures COVID,
but it became so
politicized and if you were
a democrat or if you were
CNN hydroxychloroquine
is horrible and of
course, Tony Fauci hates
hydroxychloroquine 'cause
it doesn't have a patent,
so he's not making money for his buddies,
so he tried to kill it and he got Lancet
and New England Journal of Medicine
to print studies on it that said
it's no good and they
both had to retract them,
'cause they were fraudulent.
Well, I don't have any
stake in hydroxychloroquine,
but I know I was not getting the truth
and all I want is the truth and what it's
probably ambivalent,
probably helped some people
and doesn't help other people
and it causes some deaths.
Let's hear about that.
Let's talk to the
American public as if they
were adults and let's tell 'em the truth.
Don't come on your
evening news and tell me
that masks have been proven efficacious.
We published 80 studies on masks
on Children's Health Defense
There's about four or five of them
that say they're efficacious
and there's about 75 that say they're not.
I don't have opinion or bias on masks,
but I do wanna hear the debate.
I wanna understand what's happening.
But, you never hear that.
You hear masks are what Fauci wants
and therefore, they're good and anybody
who argues with them should be shamed.
They should be vilified.
They should be treated as criminals.
Anybody who says they're, they like
hydroxychloroquine is
like a climate denier.
And on and on, all of
these different things
that we really would profit as a democracy
from a debate.
Instead these media companies believe
that it's their job to protect us
from dangerous information
and not to do journalism,
but to be agents of
compliance with state policy
and that is not what media
is supposed to be doing.
- Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
Danielle, are you ready?
- Wow.
I mean, just when you
think you've heard it all,
you're just overwhelmed
with more information.
There's so much I want
to address, but let me
just address my first concern
is with the contact tracing program,
whatever you wanna call it.
It's a huge infringement
on our personal freedoms
and our basic human rights and privacy
and for what?
We already know the tests are ineffective,
they're inaccurate, so
now you wanna implement
tracing everybody that
you've come in contact
with and then, what do we sit around
and wait for them to knock on your door
and remove you and put you in some type
COVID quarantine camp
like we're Nazi Germany?
I mean, I'm not easily scared,
but I have to admit, I am concerned.
Anyone at any time can
come in and remove myself,
my husband, my children, and put us where,
and for what?
So, I mean, I know it's all a push
for the vaccine agenda,
and that's a whole 'nother issue,
but back to the contact tracing,
how can we protect ourselves from this?
What do we do?
- That to me is part of
the most kind of insidious
aspect of the COVID pandemic is the
surveillance and the loss
of constitutional rights
that I worry is gonna be permanent.
And they, it seems almost like we're being
trained in compliance.
We're being trained,
don't social distancing
when the state tells you to do this
and don't, stay in your home.
Don't go to the beach.
And a lotta these things
don't make any sense
from a public health point of view.
And I'll just give you one example
before I talk about the kinda larger issue
of surveillance.
There's a Chinese study that was published
last week where the
Chinese took an individual
who had COVID and they,
they asked them, or they put them under
some controlled conditions
in various degrees of contact
with 455 other people.
So, in some was intimate contact
and some of it was casual contact.
And then, they wanted to see
how many people would get sick
and at the end of that
experiment nobody got sick,
not one person.
The WHO came out five days ago and said
it's not really that transmissible
and that asymptomatic people
are not transmitting it.
And then, they try to back walk that
a couple of days later.
But, if, we need science on this.
It may be that if we were
dealing with something
that was super virilant, super deadly
and super transmissible, we would wanna do
some kind of contact tracing
for a limited time period
until we figure out therapeutics and this,
what's very clear about this virus
is that it's losing virulence already
and that is what happens
to every virus over time
and the reason for that is in the process
of natural selection, these viruses
are constantly mutating,
and the ones that do well are the ones
that don't sicken their host.
You don't want your host,
if you're a parasite
or a virus you don't want your host to die
'cause then he's not spreading you.
You want him out laughing, partying,
having sex, having a lot of human contact
and not feeling bad at all.
And then, you're gonna win the race
in natural selection.
And that's why every virus over time
loses virulent until it reaches equanimity
with the species that it's infecting
and appears from all the reports
from Italy, et cetera, that that is what's
already happening, that this virus
is losing virulence and my worry is
that at the end of this period
we're gonna be living in a world
that is one, with the
gap between rich and poor
is much larger.
You know, this pandemic
has enriched billionaires.
Bill Gates has been making
a billion dollars a week
since quarantine started.
The 630 biggest, or only
billionaires in our country,
630, have increased their
wealth by $413 billion,
according to Forbes, all of
the big social media guys,
like Jeff Bezos, is likely
to become the world's
first trillionaire and this
process is accelerating that.
People with, Warren Buffet and Bill Gates
and Larry Ellison and Mark Zuckerberg
have all made $8 to $15
billion since the start
of the quarantine.
And the government
policy has been to shift
$4 trillion between the
2008 economic crisis
and this economic crisis.
We have given $14 trillion to billionaires
and corporations in our country.
And you know, President
Trump distracted us
by sending us a $1200 check,
but he was writing billion dollar checks
to the big shots.
So, the evolution of
democracy and the devolution
of economic equality is being
dramatically accelerated.
And at the same time, we are rushing
into a surveillance state.
The 5G people have used
the coronavirus quarantine
to erect towers and launch satellites.
Elon Musk now has permits
for 42,000 satellites.
Bill Gates is putting satellites up.
Mark Zuckerberg is putting satellites up.
All of them are putting
two million antennas
and those, you know, you
see these advertisements
on TV saying 5G.
5G is catastrophic for human health.
It absolutely obliterates
the blood brain barrier.
It causes heart disease.
It causes brain injuries of all kind,
less oxygen flow to the brain.
It causes bee colony collapse.
After only 10 minutes turning on the tower
the bees can't navigate any more.
They can't digest food.
Birds die from it.
Frogs, 90% of frog
populations within a mile
of cell towers go extinct
almost immediately
and human beings are
catastrophically effected.
NIH issued a $25 million study
in which at the conclusion
was that 5G clearly,
clearly, according to them,
causes DNA damage and cancer.
So, they're putting these up everywhere.
Bill Gates says his new satellite company
will be able to look at every square inch
of the earth 24 hours a day.
And we're all gonna be under surveillance.
5G, they give these very glossy ads
that say we're coming
to your neighborhood.
Verizon's gonna bring the
best 5G of anybody else
and everybody's gonna be reached.
And you're sitting there thinking,
oh my gosh, that's gonna
be great when we get 5G.
My life is really gonna change.
And then you start saying to yourself,
how's it gonna change?
Am I gonna be able to download
a video game in two seconds
rather than 10 seconds?
What else is it gonna do for me?
The truth is, it's not
gonna do anything for you.
What it's gonna do is
it's gonna allow them
to surveil you and to
take your data for free.
It's gonna be able to
connect every smart device
in your life, your Apple
Watch, your microwave oven,
your garage door opener,
the GPS on your cell phone,
the GPS in your automobile,
the transactions that you
make on your cell phone,
the music that you like to listen to,
all the conversations that
you have it's listening
to right now in your house
from Alexa, from Sere,
from your cell phones and it is listening
to and they've been listening to that.
They've had access to
this data for a decade,
but they've never been able to harvest
it and then dissipate analytics
because they do not have
the power in the lines, room in the lines,
to do that.
And that is what 5G is doing.
That data of yours is like the oil
of the 21st century and this is a oil rush
or a gold rush to get a hold of your data
and Bill Gates is building
a huge city in Arizona
that all it's gonna do is analyze data.
It's a big data housing facility
with it's gonna be a company
town with 8000 people
who live there and that's all they do.
They're gonna be able to
watch you 24 hours a day
with biometric facial recognition systems
they will know where you've been,
what you've done and every transaction
that you've engaged in 24 hours a day.
A couple weeks ago during the quarantine
there were police that
came down to the beach
and, on Malibu right near
me, and as the surfers
were getting out of the
water they were giving
them $1000 tickets, being in the ocean.
What's gonna happen now?
They don't need to do that.
They don't need to send
cops down there anymore.
They will know you've been in the ocean
and they can just send you
a, they can just remove
$1000 from your payroll account
without ever send you the ticket.
Does anyone notice?
On your cell phone and say we're taking
your money from you.
And that kind of surveillance,
and what Gates' end game is,
what he's already doing in India,
is to try and get rid of the cash society,
to get rid of all cash transactions,
make everything digital.
He says it's a much better way
of keeping track of
what everybody's doing.
That's what he says.
And of course it is,
because if you can't buy
with anything in cash, they
will know every transaction
that you've made, when you go buy cannibis
or when you buy something at the porn shop
or whatever you wanna
do, they are gonna know
what you did.
And then, what do they do?
Then if they have every
transaction can be taxed.
Every transaction,
somebody can get friction,
a little bit of money on.
It's big money for the banks
and for telecom, but it
also gives government
the money the power to silence you
and shut you up because if they really
wanna screw with you,
if you talk too much,
if you cause, if you talk about things
that oughta be censored, that
they think are dangerous,
it can just shut off your money
and starve you to death.
And we, this pandemic
has given these companies
and our government agencies the power
to feed, when human beings are scared
they become compliant and you watch
all these people walking
around with their masks
and the fear in their eyes,
they will do anything that the government
tells them to do to avoid getting COVID.
And they will walk like sheep
into the slaughter house and that is
what I'm scared that we're all doing now,
that we're gonna go into
this surveillance society
and that they're gonna keep us scared
and they're gonna keep,
if you get too close
to your girlfriend on a
social distancing date,
they will detract money from your account.
I don't wanna live in that America.
That's what happens.
That's what's called disaster capitalism
is the phenomenon that big corporations
and government use to extract money
and to impose authoritarian control
during times of crises.
- Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
What you've said sounds
like a horror scene
out of a futuristic
movie, but unfortunately,
it's too real.
Next, Mr. Rosenberg, you're free
to ask Mr. Kennedy a question.
- Great, Mr. Kennedy, wouldn't mind
if you gave me a little advice here.
I'm 72 years old, so I am
in the high risk category.
You said that quarantining
and social distancing
is ineffective.
You're not a proponent of wearing masks
and of course, the vaccine
could be dangerous.
So, what advice would you give to me
to prevent my coming down with COVID
and keeping myself safe?
I do know a few people personally,
who have come down with COVID
and they were extremely ill
and I have to tell you,
it does frighten me.
So, if you could share some advice
in terms of how I can keep myself safe
I would appreciate it.
- And so, I'm not a doctor, so I'm not
gonna give you medical advice,
but I'm not against
counter measures to COVID.
I think in the past what we've done
is we've, there's never been a pandemic
where we quarantined healthy people
and collapsed the economy.
What I think would probably
be the more sensible
thing to do is to do what
we did in the beginning,
which is to have a quarantine
to flatten the curve
long enough that we didn't have a surge
that would overwhelm
our healthcare systems
and the hospitals could gear up,
they could buy the ventilators
which as it turns out, the ventilators
are the worst thing they can do.
They kill people, but at the
time that's what they thought,
so they could develop
protocols and therapy
for treating patients
so that they could get
the beds and the healthcare personnel
would be prepared for it and then,
unquarantine healthy people who have,
99.99999% of healthy
people will have no effects
or minimal effects from it, but continue
to protect people with co-morbidities,
people who are the fragile elderly,
people are a vulnerability
and let the disease
spread through the population
til we have herd immunity
and then that protects the elderly.
So, that would be kind
of a national policy
that I would advocate.
In terms of personal health,
I mean I use a protocol that
has been pretty universally
recommended by people to
bolster my own immune system
which is to eat well, to avoid sugars,
to and again, I'm not
giving medical advice.
I'm telling you what
I've done and what a lot,
I've talked to a lot
of doctors on my shows,
on my podcasts who are,
because of the nature
of my work, I'm talking
to doctors all the time.
And then, to take a lot of vitamin C,
about 3000 to 5000 units a
day of lipizome vitamin C.
Take zinc, to take 50 milligrams a day,
melatonin, which is an anti-inflammatory,
vitamin D, interferon, which you can get
in a form called Paximune,
and then something
to boost your glutathione,
which I use something
called Pro Immune.
So, I'm just, you're asking me as a friend
and I'm giving you free advice
and that's probably what
it's worth, nothing.
But, I'm telling you what I do
and what a lot of my
friends who are doctors
are doing to keep their
immune system in shape.
And then, one thing, like I was thinking
that if I got COVID and I
started getting sick from it,
what I would do, and the first thing
that I personally would do, having read
a lot of the science on this, I'm just,
there's so much information
that's now coming out
and I see all that information
because of the listeners
I'm on and because of the people I know.
I see all the studies
and the studies to me
that have been most
encouraging are the studies
on IV vitamin C coming
out of China and Europe
and also there's a doctor
here in this country
called George Zabrecky
in Connecticut who is
doing trials on it.
But, the IV vitamin C
seems almost miraculous
when it's, when they
give you I think 12 to 20
to even 30 units a day, people have had
almost universal recovery
and having read stuff and
not being a doctor at all,
that would be the first
thing I would start asking
about if I got sick is,
how to do the IV vitamin C
and also, hyperbarics,
look at that as well.
Anyway, I'm gonna say for the
ninth time I'm not a doctor,
but those are the things that I do.
- Thank you.
Dr. Lewis, are you ready?
- Yes.
Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
Wanted to, I had just
a couple of questions,
but wanted to.
- One, you can do one.
- Well, let me see which one.
The question would then definitely be,
with the information that you've given,
what are some of the
steps that we can take
to mobilize towards combating this?
I mean, it seems like
a leviathan, it's huge.
And so, with that being
said, what can we do
that will make any real
tangible difference
with limited budgets, with limited people
and staff, what can we do
and how do we do that
in terms of effectuating
some level of change with what's coming
against us from the Gates'
and from the computer gurus
that are orchestrating these things
behind closed doors?
How can we shift this narrative?
- Here's what I would say
is that, and you're right,
it's overwhelming and
kind of the most daunting
part of this is that the bad guys are also
the institutions in our
society that are meant
to insure democratic processes, are meant
to stand between a vulnerable little child
and greedy corporations,
have all been neutralized.
Oh, Congress gets more money from pharma
than any other industry.
They own the press.
They have captured the
regulatory agencies, CDC
and FDA are vaccine companies.
They're part of the industry.
They are not protecting public health
and the newspapers and the television are
also not functioning
and the lawyers can't do
it because they've given them immunity
from liabilities and
there's a limited way,
there's limited, they
have limited the avenues
that we can address their malfeasance
and their criminal behavior.
The two places where I
think we can triumph is,
I'll say three places.
One, we need to start opening up our own
communications and our
community is doing that.
So, the end run, social media censorship
and the mainstream media.
Number two, there are ways we can address
them in court and we are doing that.
So, we figured out a
lotta ways to sue them
and I think ultimately,
that's how we're gonna win.
One of the things you can do is support
those efforts by us,
Children's Health Defense.
Number three, grassroots
organizing and informing
the public and I think this
is particularly important
in the African American community.
African Americans are
disproportionately harmed
by vaccine injury and we have a lot
of documents on that.
We have a lot of, a power point
that addresses that issue.
So, a lot, the upper
levels in the state houses
it's usually the republicans who are good
on this issue and the
democrats who are bad.
And what we need to do is make this more
of a bi-partisan issue.
One of the ways that we can do that,
we have the women on our side,
but a lot of African
Americans are not aware
of this issue, and I think one of the ways
that I'm always thinking about how are we
gonna break through with this?
By the way, when we break through
it will, they have created an edifice
by piling fraud upon fraud
upon fraud upon fraud
and it's so high and
so unwieldy that all we
get to do is kick out one
brick and the whole thing
will tumble down.
So, I think we are
gonna win and when we do
it will be a big win.
The way we're gonna do that is by winning
in court and expanding our grassroots.
And the grassroots, we
have to start getting
democrats and leftists on our side.
And there are a few of us who are part
of this movement, most of the people,
I would say most of the leadership
or a lot of the leadership is republican.
Myself and Del Bigtree are democrats
and then there are, we have good support
from some leaders in the
African American community.
The nation of Islam is very much behind us
and there is, and I've met
with Reverend Farrakhan
and then we have a lot
of good African American
leaders like Curtis Kopf
that are, who are trying
to do the grassroots
organizing and I think
that's the way to do it.
And, how do we win this?
We win it now is the time we start opening
our mouths and talking about it.
We, there's been a long
time where it was dangerous
to talk about this issue,
where if you talked
about it with your
pediatrician he would fire you.
If you talked about it with your friends
and family you could lose friendships
and damage relationships.
But now, we need, now, this
is an inflection point for us
and our membership has
quintupled in two months.
Americans who were never
paying attention to this
are paying attention to
it and they're asking
the questions and there's
a lotta breakthroughs
happening where we're
able to talk about it.
One of the major
strategies that we have is
to really figure out ways to reach out
to the African community,
African American community
and to Africans 'cause they're being,
war is being waged on them.
And so, we have some really good reports.
I did a report about five years ago,
an article called, The
New Tuskegee Experiment,
that outlines a lot of the evidence
for the disproportionate
injury to African Americans.
And I think you have
a, a unique opportunity
to start educating that community
to help us build our membership
and our credibility in that.
We met with people from Black Lives Matter
this week in Colorado.
I did a march in which
almost all the leaders
in the march were African Americans.
We're seeing people come
out now and we're seeing
the realization and the
light bulbs going off.
Curtis had been working on
that part of the project
for a decade and we all
need to get involved
in supporting his work.
So, thank you for asking that.
- Thank you.
I know this is gonna go beyond just,
this is gonna go all over.
For those who are watching, please join
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It's one of the few
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and the more of us who join
the more, the stronger the
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to have with many different levels.
Mr. Kennedy has so well outlined I mean,
there are serious problems taking place.
Africa, here, it's not black and white.
Everybody's at risk.
So, it's only $10, so
I encourage everybody
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to have Mr. Kennedy here
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Not only will you get updated information
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and this big special to
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make offerings where
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Most recently he had a
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and go to Kennedy Compound
and he knows I'm sure,
everybody would love that opportunity.
So yeah, by joining
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you become aware of these
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The African American community
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And last one I think
Christina, can you hear me?
Christina Christian.
- I can hear you.
Thank you, Curtis.
- Just ask your question.
- Yes, I will.
Bobby, I love what you said
and I couldn't agree more
with the idea of unification
around health freedom
where it seems like every single policy
is somehow polarized and this, the idea
of health being polarized
around whether you're
a democrat or a republican is absurd.
My question for you is,
given that all over the globe
they've now come out with a range
for the fatality rate of being anywhere
from 0.1 to let's just say 0.35,
and even the CDC came out and said,
it's about 0.26.
I'm talking about the
fatality rate for COVID.
What I am wondering is,
since that's very close
if not similar to a bad
flu seasonal flu season,
how in God's name are they getting away
with these continued draconian measures?
And isn't that something that we should
be highlighting over and
over and over and over again?
What are your thoughts
on that specific issue?
- I mean, the problem
with it is that there's no
actual risk assessments going on.
It's that debate that
you're talking about,
which I really wanna see that debate.
The flu numbers, I hesitate
to compare it to flu
because they've been lying
about their flu numbers
for so long, and I wrote a
letter and you guys know.
If there's anybody who's
interested in the flu shot
should look at my letter.
If you're ever thinking
of getting a flu shot
my letter to Sanjay
Gupta, which is published
on our site, where I just go through all,
it's all sourced saying
here's what the science says.
And one of the problems with the flu,
with comparing it flu is that CDC
has been lying about the flu mortalities
in this country for over a decade.
In Conquering Collaboration and the BMJ,
the British Medical
Journal, pointed this out,
the editor, Peter Doshi,
did an extensive analysis
of this about three
years ago, where he said,
first of all they had a meeting at CDC
where their PR guys said,
we gotta start lying
about the flu shot and tell people
that a lotta people are dying
because people aren't taking flu shots
and we need to scare them.
So, they started doing it.
We actually have
transcripts of that meeting,
we have notes from that meeting.
But so, what they did
was they began conflating
pneumonia deaths with the flu deaths.
If you ask, so they say
to you, they'll say like,
last year I think they
said 47,000 people died
from the flu.
The year before they said 80,000 people
died from the flu.
If you actually look at their mortality,
CDC's own mortality and morbidity data,
there's only about 3000 people a year
who die from the flu.
All those other people
are dying from pneumonia
and they don't have the flu.
Only 7% of them have the flu.
The other ones have, are
dying from pneumonia.
They've conflated it in order
to frighten people about the flu
and to justify the flu shots.
So, it's really, because
they've been lying
for so long, it's really difficult to make
authentic comparison
between, which would be
a really important comparison, Christine,
because then we know how to act.
If we say, oh, this is
just exactly like the flu,
then we say, we don't
shut down the economy
when there's a flu, so this is insane.
And it teaches us kind of
what irrational response is
if we are able to gauge it.
But, we can't do that with this.
I think one of the big data points
that I would be interested
in that I haven't seen
is the excess mortality data.
In other words, how many extra people
are dying this year that were unexpected?
And I haven't seen anybody
and that, if we had
a real health, public health agency
that wasn't just a
propaganda agency for pharma,
that would be the first data point
they would look at.
I think they do that in Sweden,
where they're saying,
well, we're not getting
any excess deaths.
Yeah, people are dying from
COVID, but they were people
who would've been dying from pneumonia
and we don't really know
if they're actually dying
from COVID or where they're
dying from pneumonia
and they just happen to have COVID.
As you know, in our country
they've been monkeying
around with the data a lot
and they've been caught
on numerous occasions.
People who get killed in a car accident
and they take their blood
and there's COVID in there,
they write them down as death from COVID.
And so, what you really wanna look at is
the excess death numbers.
How many people were supposed to have died
between January and
March and how many people
actually did die?
That's the number I haven't seen
and that's the number I
think that would really
tell us what we're dealing with.
- We're gonna wrap up here, but I have one
quick question for Mr. Kennedy
and hopefully you'll be able to help save
a friend of mine.
What are your thoughts on the safety
and effectiveness of
the pneumonia vaccine?
- Well,
you know, I'm not a doctor,
so I'm not gonna recommend
whether people get a vaccine or not.
But, I think we have information
about the pneumonia vaccines
and the pneumococcal
vaccines on our website.
People should look at those.
We have information
about the clinical trials
and about the ingredients.
I definitely would not take a vaccine
that had aluminum in
it, and I would not take
a vaccine that has mercury in it.
And so, and I would recommend
that just as something
who knows a lot about
toxicology that it's not
worth it to take anything
that has those two in it.
Nobody can really give
you the answer to that
because nobody's ever done a test
that looks at vaccinated
versus unvaccinated
populations and say, if you
get the pneumonia vaccine
you are more likely to live.
Nobody has done that and that
is the data that we need.
- Are you saying that
the pneumococcal vaccine
does have aluminum and mercury?
- Some of them I think have them,
but I don't know.
I'm pretty sure some of them have.
If it's not a live virus,
actually the live virus
are the ones do not have
mercury or aluminum.
The flu vaccine has mercury,
a third of them, not all of them.
A third of them have mercury and I think
some of the pneumonia vaccines,
but I don't know.
If they're live virus they won't have it.
If they're a dead virus
they probably have it.
- Thank you.
Mr. Rosenberg, you heard that, right?
- Yeah, I got it.
- Okay so, I guess we're
gonna wrap up here.
If anybody wanna (mumbling) 20, 30 seconds
comments on what you've heard
and then we'll just wrap up.
So, I guess we'll go in order.
A little quick commentary
of what you've heard,
what you think.
Agneta, can you make a quick commentary
on everything you've heard?
- Thank you, I wasn't even
prepared for that, Curtis.
But, I just think that it is
a very important discussion.
It's really worrying and sad that we
cannot have it officially
and that there's so little, just like fair
and respectful conversations
going on and I think
we need to have more of those
with doctors and scientists.
One thing that I wanted to point out
that I really love about the
Swedish model right now is
that politics are not involved.
There's four experts
doing press conferences
every day to just inform
people on what's going on.
And it's a very effective way.
When we talk about.
- We've gotta be brief Agneta.
We've gotta be brief.
- Yeah, the division
is not very effective,
but yes, I would like
to see this conversation
to become much bigger
and in very safe spaces
with respectful tools.
- Thank you.
Dr. Lewis.
Do like 30 seconds of
thoughts about things
you've heard today.
We can't hear you, we can't hear you.
- One of the things that is my takeaway
and I've been pondering this is the fact
that the diliterous effects on the people
that cannot work, the programs
that will be destroyed,
the children that can't go to school
and the high rates of
depression and suicide,
even to the point of Mr.
Kennedy, I've thought
about that, will do far
more damage than COVID
and the fact that people are
completely ignoring it is
an absolute travesty and I'm looking
to the black community as
well as the clergy community
to change that narrative altogether
by informing the masses of the fact
that if you die by
anything other than COVID
it's all right, but if you die by COVID,
then it's not all right.
So, that's something that
I'm really thinking about.
It's a crazy concept, but we've bought
it hook, line and sinker,
so we need to un-buy it.
- Mr. Kennedy, I'll also
point out that Dr. Lewis,
as I mentioned, he's a minister and he's
very well connected with
a lotta the black churches
and that's one of the areas
I really wanna focus in on.
I think Mr. Lewis could be an asset
and I just wanted to mention that to you.
Ministers like him, 'cause
he's very much onboard
and he's very well connected
with black churches
across the country and
I'm not gonna say more.
But, we'll be working on some things, so.
Mr. Rosenberg, 30 seconds quick takeaway
from all of this.
- So, I'm probably here the
only non-health activist here.
I did find it very very enlightening.
I still remain somewhat of a skeptic,
but much food for thought.
Can I ask Mr. Kennedy one last question?
Do I have time?
No.
- Go ahead, feel free.
- I heard once that you mentioned that you
are in favor of, maybe
it was out of context,
safe vaccines.
Are there any vaccines
that you would recommend
or are you pretty much
opposed to all of them?
- I think the problem is none
of them have been tested.
Vaccines have an exemption
from safety testing.
It's interesting artifact of CDC's legacy
as a public health service, which is
a military agency and
that's why CDC people
have military ranks
and they wear uniforms,
surgeon general, et cetera,
and the vaccine program was launched
as a national security defense against
biological attacks on our country.
They wanted to be able
to formulate a vaccine
if the Russians attacked
us with a biological agent
very quickly with no
regulatory impediments.
And so, they said we're going
to, we're gonna call 'em,
if we call 'em a medicine
you have to safety test 'em.
We're gonna call 'em
something else, a biologic,
and we're exempting biologics
from safety testing.
So, not a single vaccine
on the schedule of the
72 vaccines now mandated,
not one has been ever safety tested
against a placebo which means nobody knows
what the risk profile is.
So, I wouldn't endorse any medical product
if I don't know the risk profile
and nobody can tell you
if that the question is,
is that vaccine averting
more harms than it's causing?
Nobody can tell you
that about any vaccine.
And what I've said is,
safety test the vaccine.
If you can show me that
a vaccinated group is
healthier than a unvaccinated group,
then I will hang up a sign and close down
Children's Health Defense and leave.
But, so far you can't do that and we found
60 vaccinated versus
unvaccinated studies, 61 now
on PubMed, in the archives of thousands,
tens of thousands studies we found 60
and in every one of those,
those vaccinated individuals
are much much unhealthier
than unvaccinated.
- Thank you.
Danielle.
Again like 30 seconds.
- I know, I know, I know, I'm sorry.
It takes me that long to
get my thoughts together.
Okay, just really quick to address
the whole racial issue and
Mr. Kennedy, thank you.
I didn't thank you before for all you do.
I always said we have to unite,
there's power in numbers.
And now I feel that we were uniting,
we were coming together
for a common cause.
People were waking up,
we're one, we're one race
and we have a common enemy, right Curtis?
We always say we've got that common enemy
and we need to put our
priorities in check.
So, now with this whole
incident with George Floyd,
that had to be an agenda to divide again,
shift focus, separate
us, because they knew
we were coming together.
So people, all walks, all
color, all backgrounds,
do not let that be a distraction.
Remember, we have a common enemy
and Bill Gates is no one
to, he has no credibility
to talk about medical
advice and give medical
advice to anybody, let alone procedures.
Keep that in mind because
our lives are at stake,
we all are, all our lives.
- Amen.
Thank you Danielle.
Christina, would you
like to give 30 second?
- Sure.
I would just like to finish by saying
that Bobby has been, Robert Kennedy,
has been a stalwart champion
for the environment,
the planet and the children's health
and the population health.
And if we could just encourage everyone
with a final message of
this idea of unification
and helping us at
Children's Health Defense,
please know that, as we all know,
every drop, every drop makes a ripple
and we need all of these
ripples to make big waves.
So, please, please,
please do what you can,
what you're comfortable
with, join Children's
Health Defense, spread the word
and help us to bring about
just a very bright future
that a minimum of which
will be medical freedom
and hopefully a lot more.
Thank you so much.
- I thank everybody for taking time
out of their day to be here and especially
Mr. Kennedy, we know you're very busy.
Thank you so much.
If you have any closing
comments you'd like to make,
Mr. Kenned, feel free.
- People have heard enough from me.
- No, never enough, never.
Okay so, I guess we can close out now.
Thank you again everyone.
It's been very informative and it's been
a great day, thank you.
