[APPLAUSE]
>> Hi, hi everyone.
>> it's so great to see you.
I haven't seen you in a while.
>> It's so great to see you, Ellen.
>> Thanks for being here.
>> I know, it's been a long time.
>> I know.
>> But, I'm so happy to-
>> You got married since I've seen you?
>> I did, I got-
>> Congratulations.
>> Married, I gave up on you, and-
>> Well.
>> [LAUGH]
>> I got married, about two and
a half years ago, to the greatest guy.
That is such a cheesy photo, isn't it.
[LAUGH]
>> It's like hello.
>> It's like what comes in
the frame when you buy a frame.
>> Yeah, exactly.
His name's John Mullner, and I feel
really lucky because he's funny, and
kind, and really smart, and great company.
You know you forget how important it
is just to enjoy being with the person.
>> Really, do you forget that?
[LAUGH]
>> I think that's really important.
>> [LAUGH]
>> I don't know why.
I don't know why you really appreciate it,
when you do love being with that person.
So I'm really happy.
>> Yeah,
you should be with your best friend.
>> Yeah.
>> Well congratulations.
>> Thank you.
>> I'm happy for you.
So let's talk about the documentary.
I just wish that the audience could have
seen the entire thing before you were on,
because it's gonna be on NATGO and
I really hope everyone sees it.
And I have to say as a gay person,
I don't know anything about transgender or
any of every gender non conforming.
>> Nothing.
There's a whole new vocabulary that exists
and I think it's so.
There's such a generational divide.
I think young people, I don't know if you
all have college aged kids or younger.
It's much more open and accepted, I think,
for people to not fall into this binary.
That I was raised with this
whole boy girl, blue pink.
And I think for people who are a little
bit older, like me, a cisgender woman,
which means I identify with
the gender in which I was born.
It's very hard to wrap your head
around these new concepts, and
people who feel very
differently than some of us do.
And I wanted to explore it and
give people the vocabulary and
the tools to have a real conversation
about it, because I think a lot of hatred.
And, Ellen, I think you know about
this from your own experience.
Comes from fear, and
fear comes out of ignorance.
And if we help to explain things and
understand things,
and appreciate the biological
factors that go into gender.
>> That's what-
>> Then things will really change in terms
of our openness and understanding.
>> Well, that's why I think it's so
fascinating.
Like I said, just because I'm gay,
doesn't mean I understand people, but-
>> Well, sexual orientation,
as you've learned, is completely
different than gender identification.
Often times,
people conflate those two things.
And one of the experts or
one of the guys I had talked to said,
"Gender is who you go to bed as. Sexual
orientation, is who you go to bed with".
So there's a real distinction there.
>> And so, when you talk about
gender as who you go to bed as.
I go to bed as a woman.
I live as a woman.
That's who I am.
And that's just because
I'm gay doesn't mean,
I have a different gender
identity in my head.
But people who have a different gender
identity in their head, it's a biological,
it's a real thing.
I think we looked at Caitlyn Jenner,
and we learned for kind of the first time,
all of us, what that was.
But we still didn't understand it.
