>>> TODAY WE WANTED TO TALK TO 
YOU ABOUT STALKING.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS 
LATELY.
WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT CELEBRITY 
CASES LIKE TAYLOR SWIFT.
MISS SAY A MAN RECENTLY BROKE 
INTO HER NEW YORK CITY TOWNHOUSE
WAITING FOR HER.
A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THAT, THE 
MAN WAS ARRESTED FOR BREAKING 
DOWN SWIFT'S FRONT DOOR WITH A 
SHOVEL.
IT'S NOT JUST CELEBRITIES.
JUST TWO WEEKS AGO FIVE STAFFERS
AT THE "CAPITAL GAZETTE" 
NEWSPAPER IN MARYLAND LOST THEIR
LIVES WHEN A SHOOTER OPENED 
FIRE.
HE WAS HOLDING A GRUDGE AGAINST 
THE PAPER FOR COVERING A 
CRIMINAL CASE INVOLVING HIS 
STALKING OF A YOUNG WOMAN.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 
JUSTICE OVER 7 MILLION AMERICANS
ARE STALKED EACH YEAR.
OUR FIRST GUESS TODAY, KATHLEEN 
BEATTY IS ONE OF THEM.
SHE SURVIVED AN EIGHT-YEAR 
TALKING ORDEAL THAT BEGAN WHEN 
SHE WAS A COLLEGE STUDENT AND 
CULMINATED IN A TERRIFYING HOME 
INVASI
INVASION.
WATCH.
>> I STARTED BEING STALKED MY 
JUNIOR YEAR OF COLLEGE.
IT WAS A GUY THAT I HAD GONE TO 
HIGH SCHOOL WITH, ON THE TRACK 
TEAM.
I KNEW HIM NO MORE THAN HI IN 
THE HALLWAY.
I WAS HOME FOR THANKSGIVING 
VACATION AND I GOT A STRANGE 
PHONE CALL.
HE SHOWED UP IN MY FRONT YARD 
THAT NIGHT, KIND OF DIDN'T SAY 
ANYTHING.
HE JUMPED BACK IN HIS TRUCK AND 
TOOK OFF.
WE WENT INTO THE HOUSE, AND THE 
PHONE RANG.
MY FRIEND SAID, LISTEN, KATHLEEN
IS GOING BACK DOWN TO UCLA 
TOMORROW.
LEAVE US ALONE.
YEAH, WE STILL HAVE TONIGHT AND 
SHE'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT DOWN 
THERE.
THAT'S WHEN WE CALLED POLICE.
HE HAD 180 ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION,
SEMIAUTOMATIC AND BULLETS 
STUFFED IN A CASSETTE TAPE UNDER
THE SEAT.
THEY PICKED HIM UP FOR A 72-HOUR
CYCLE.
IT WAS LITERALLY FROM ONE NIGHT 
AND A PHONE CALL TO THAT.
THREE MONTHS LATER HE SHOWED UP 
AT MY DOOR AGAIN, AND MY DAD 
RECOGNIZED HIM.
AS HE WALKED AWAY, MY DAD SAW A 
GUN IN HIS BACK.
SO HE CALLED POLICE, AND THE 
POLICE DID SAY TO ME, UNTIL HE 
LAYS A HAND ON YOU, THERE'S 
NOTHING WE COULD DO.
SO IT JUST BECAME THIS CAT AND 
MOUSE GAME OF HIM SHOWING UP, ME
NARROWLY ESCAPING.
HIM SHOWING UP, ME FILING A 
POLICE REPORT.
THAT'S HOW I LIVED.
WE WERE LIVING BACK IN THE BAY 
AREA.
I FELT REALLY GOOD.
NOTHING WAS IN MY NAME.
I FELT SAFE.
WE ORDERED A DOMINOES PIZZA.
AND I OPENED THE DOOR, AND MY 
STALKER WAS THE DOMINO'S 
INDIANAPOLIS GUY.
THE NEXT WEEK, I REMEMBER COMING
HOME, ABOUT 4:00 IN THE 
AFTERNOON.
I WAS LISTENING TO MY ANSWERING 
MACHINE AND I TURNED AROUND AND 
HE WAS STANDING BEHIND ME WITH A
KNIFE. 
>> OERGS, MY GOD.
KATHLEEN BEATTY IS HERE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> THAT IS CHILLING.
THAT IS JUST CHILLING.
EVEN IN THE MOMENT, AND I WANT 
THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW, THE STORY 
IS HARROWING, AT EVERY TURN YOU 
WERE VERY COLLECTED.
YOU HANDLED IT AS WELL AS ANY 
HUMAN BEING COULD.
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HIM WHEN YOU
TURNED AROUND AND SAW HIM?
>> WELL, WHEN I TURNED AROUND, I
SAID SIT DOWN, I'VE BEEN 
EXPECTING YOU.
WE NEED TO TALK.
REMEMBER, THIS HAD BEEN GOING ON
FOR EIGHT YEARS.
IT WAS LIKE THIS CAT AND MOUSE 
GAME.
I HAD PLAYED IT OVER AND OVER IN
MY HEAD.
BECAUSE I WOULD JUST NARROWLY 
ESCAPE ALL THESE YEARS.
HE WOULD COME TO MY DOOR AND I 
WOULD JUST BARELY GET AWAY AND 
HE'D GET PICKED UP BY POLICE.
HE'D BE PUT IN JAIL FOR 60 DAYS 
AND OUT ON PROBATION.
THIS BECAME A ROUTINE.
THIS WAS MY LIFE, RIGHT?
SO WHEN I ACTUALLY CAME IN AND 
WAS LISTENING TO MY ANSWERING 
MACHINE AND I TURNED AROUND AND 
I SAW HIM, IT WAS LIKE, FINALLY,
FINALLY IT'S GOING TO BE OVER.
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, HOWEVER IT'S
GOING TO END UP, I JUST WANTED 
IT TO BE OVER. 
>> YOUR MOM CALLED. 
>> YES. 
>> HE LET YOU ANSWER THE PHONE. 
>> YES. 
>> YOU MANAGED TO SIGNAL TO HER 
THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
HOW?
>> SHE WOULD ASK ME A QUESTION 
AND I WOULD ANSWER COMPLETELY 
DIFFERENT.
NO ONE ABOUT YOUR MOM BY MY MOM 
CAN TALK AND NOT LISTEN. 
>> YES.
OH, YES. 
>> FINALLY AFTER ONE QUESTION, I
SAID, YEAH, IT IS REALLY HOT.
SHE KIND OF PAUSED, AND SHE SAID
IS EVERYTHING OKAY AND SHE 
SORTED IT OUT.
WE ALL KNEW HE WAS MISSING.
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT A 
PROBATION MEETING WITH HIS 
PROBATION OFFICER AND HE DIDN'T 
SHOW UP.
SO IT WAS THAT PHONE CALL FROM 
HIS PROBATION OFFICER TO ME THAT
NOTIFIED ME THAT HE WAS OUT 
THERE.
IF THAT HADN'T HAVE HAPPENED -- 
>> YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ON 
YOUR GUARD.
SO DID 911 CALL YOU NEXT?
>> SO ONCE MY MOTHER KNEW THAT 
HE WAS THERE, SHE CALLED THE 
POLICE.
THEY WERE VERY WELL AWARE OF 
WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THE WHOLE 
THING.
SHORTLY THEREAFTER I GOT A CALL 
FROM POLICE DISPATCH, A WOMAN. 
>> HE DIDN'T KNOW, THE STALKER 
WHO HAS A KNIFE ON HER, DID NOT 
KNOW THIS WAS 911 CALLING.
WE HAVE AN EXERT OF THE 911 
TAPE.
CAN YOU JUST LISTEN TO HOW COOL 
KATHLEEN IS.
SHE'S AMAZING.
LISTEN HOW THIS GOES. 
>> IS HE IN THE HOUSE WITH YOU 
SFF UH-HUH. 
>> DOES HE HAVE ANY WEAPONS?
>> YES. 
>> A GUN. 
>> NO. 
>> A KNIFE?
>> YES. 
>> IS HE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH 
YOU?
>> YES. 
>> IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO 
PRETEND I'M LIKE SOMEONE ELSE 
AND STAY ON THE PHONE WITH ME.
SO HOW ARE THINGS GOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD.
THIS HOUSE I WAS THINKING OF 
SHOWING YOU TOMORROW, I DON'T 
KNOW IF IT'S RIGHT.
>> YOU'RE INCREDIBLE.
YOU'RE INCREDIBLE.
HOW DID YOU DO THAT?
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, THE ONE THING 
AFTER WORKING WITH SO MANY CRIME
VICTIMS OVER THE YEARS AND ME 
LIVING WITH IT PERSONALLY, WHAT 
I HAVE TO IMPART TO EVERYBODY 
THAT SHOULD BE SOOTHING IS WE 
ALL HAVE WITHIN US THIS FIGHT.
WHEN WE ARE IN A LIFE 
THREATENING SITUATION, IT 
DOESN'T MATTER HOW STRONG YOU 
THINK YOU ARE OR NOT, IT JUST 
DOES.
IT HAPPENS.
SO FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU 
WANT TO CALL IT GOD OR SPIRIT OR
EMPOWERMENT, BUT FOR ME THAT WAS
A DRIVING FACTOR.
WHEN I HEAR THAT VOICE, IT 
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MY VOICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I SAID THE 
THINGS THAT I SAID.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT JUST ALL 
UNFOLDED SO INCREDIBLY AND I 
THANK GOD I'M HERE. 
>> THAT WAS SO COURAGEOUS.
OF COURSE, HE COULD HAVE GRABBED
THE PHONE ANY MINUTE.
HE COULD HAVE FIGURED OUT.
HE COULD HAVE SUSPECTED YOU IF 
YOUR VOICE HAD BEEN IDENTIFIABLE
TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD AS NERVOUS.
>> RIGHT. 
>> JUST TO BE TABLE TO HANDLE 
THAT IS INCREDIBLE.
IT AGAINST EVEN MORE DANGEROUS.
KATHLEEN HAS GONE ON TO BECOME 
AN ADVOCATE NOT JUST FOR HERSELF
BUT OTHER WOMEN AND HAS VERY
>> WE'RE BACK WITH KATHLEEN WHO 
SURVIVED AN EIGHT-YEAR STALKING 
ORDEAL S SHE'S TRIED TO DO SOME 
GOOD BECAUSE OF ALL THIS.
LET'S FINISH IT OFF.
THE POLICE CAME.
HE WOUND UP TYING YOUR HANDS 
BEHIND YOUR BACK, PULLING A GUN 
ON YOU.
THINGS WERE GOING FROM BAD TO 
WORSE WHEN, THANK GOD, HE TOOK 
YOU OUTSIDE AND THE COPS GOT 
YOU. 
>> EXACTLY.
THE COPS SURROUNDED THE HOUSE.
AND I NOTICED OVER IN A CORNER A
REALLY TALL COP WAVING HIS ARMS 
TO RUN TO HIM.
SO I HAD TO TURN MY BACK TO MY 
STALKER WHO HAD THE GUN.
HE HAD THE GUN POINTED AT HIS 
CHEST, SO THAT'S WHY THE POLICE 
DIDN'T SHOOT HIM.
LUCKY FOR ME I RAN THE 100 
METERS.
I RAN THE FASTEST 40 METERS OF 
MY LIFE WITH MY HANDS TIED, 
HURLED THE PICKET FENCE AND GOT 
AWAY SAFELY.
>> OH, MY GOD.
SO HE WENT TO JAIL.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, ESPECIALLY 
BACK WHEN THIS HAPPENED TO YOU, 
STALKING WAS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY
VIRTUALLY ANYWHERE.
AND THANKS TO YOU -- IN LARGE 
PART THANKS TO YOU, IT NOW IS.
CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN HOW YOU GOT
THE LAWS CHANGED.
REALLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT 
WOMEN SHOULD DO. 
>> SO AT THE TIME THERE WAUNTS 
EV
 -- WASN'T EVEN THE WORD 
STALKING.
THERE WERE NO LAWS. 
>> 1990. 
>> I WAS CONTACTED BY A STATE 
SENATOR OUT OF ORANGE COUNTY, 
CALIFORNIA, ED ROYCE.
AT THE TIME HE WAS TRYING TO 
PASS THE NATION'S FIRST 
ANTI-STALKING LAW AND ASKED IF I
WOULD TESTIFY IN TORONTO OF THE 
SENATE BECAUSE ALL THE VICTIMS 
IN HIS AREA WERE DEAD.
SO I GRADUALLY DID.
THE OTHER THING FOR ME, THIS IS 
SOMETHING I WANT TO IMPART TO 
PEOPLE, LIVING LIKE A VICTIM, 
IT'S ABOUT PERCEPTION, GETTING 
YOUR POWER BACK.
I WENT UP AND TESTIFIED.
WHEN THE LAW PASSED UNANIMOUSLY 
THAT DAY, IT WAS LIKE A HUGE 
WEIGHT WAS LIFTED OFF MY 
SHOULDERS.
FOR ME, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS MY 
MISSION.
LIKE I REALIZED THAT DAY THAT 
WAS GOING TO BE MY WAY OF 
GETTING OVER THINGS.
BUT TRAUMA HAPPENS ALL THE TIME 
TO PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
SO YOU JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, 
FIND YOUR HAPPINESS, FIND YOUR 
PEACE. 
>> FOCUS ON THAT. 
>> EXACTLY RIGHT. 
>> AS A SECURITY MATTER, BECAUSE
STALKING IS A SECURITY MATTER, 
WHICH IS WHY IT NEEDS TO BE 
TAKEN MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY.
IT'S ABOUT LAYERS BETWEEN YOU 
AND A POTENTIAL OFFENDER. 
>> UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE LAWS, 
THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR 
IMPROVEMENT ON LAWS.
THE BIGGEST THING IS, YOU HAVE 
TO BE -- TO PROVE A CASE OF 
STALKING, YOU HAVE TO PROVE A 
LAUNDRY LIST OF BEHAVIOR.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE ONE TIME, 
RIGHT?
BUT THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT 
IT, WHEN YOU ARE A STALKING 
VICTIM, AS YOU WELL KNOW, YOU 
LIVE IN FEAR.
IT'S DEBILITATING, AND IT'S 
WEAK.
THE THING IS, MUCH LIKE YOU 
THINK OF WITH BULLIES, HOW THIS 
WHOLE MIND-SET IS, THE STALKER 
IS THE COWARD.
YOU ARE THE POWERFUL ONE.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR POWER 
BACK.
THE WAY THAT YOU DO THAT IS YOU 
BECOME YOUR OWN CASE MANAGER.
YOU SAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE.
THE MOMENT -- PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK 
ME, HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE BEING
STALKED.
IT'S THE MOMENT YOU FEEL IN FEAR
FOR YOUR SAFETY.
PERIOD.
THE FIRST THING YOU MUST DO IS 
MAKE IT CLEAR TO THAT PERSON 
THAT YOU WANT NO FURTHER CONTACT
OF ANY KIND. 
>> THAT'S KEY.
DON'T TRY TO TALK HIM OUT OF IT,
DON'T BE NICE. 
>> DON'T GET INTO SA 
CONVERSATION WITH HIM. 
>> NOT A NEGOTIATION. 
>> EVEN IF IT'S IN WRITING OR 
E-MAIL, WHATEVER, BUT THAT IS 
THE STARTING POINT TO PROVING A 
CASE OF STALKING.
FROM THERE DOCUMENT AND SAVE 
EVERYTHING.
IT'S SO MUCH EASIER IN THIS DAY 
AND AGE WITH TECHNOLOGY AND ALL 
OF THAT.
THE KNEE-JERK REACTION A LOT OF 
TIMES IS PEOPLE WANT TO ERASE 
MESSAGES OR WHATEVER.
NO.
SAVE EVERYTHING.
THEN ONCE YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE 
THIS IS A SERIOUS THING, GET 
DOWN TO THE POLICE STATION.
I WORK WITH VICTIMS ALL THE 
TIME.
I HOLD THEIR HAND.
I HELP THEM MANAGE THEIR OWN 
STALKING CASES, BECAUSE YOU 
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
GET DOWN TO THE POLICE STATION 
AND WORK WITH THEM.
BE YOUR OWN DETECTIVE.
FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
ONE, IT HELPS THE POLICE BE ABLE
TO MANAGE THE CASE AND HOPEFULLY
GET THE RESTRAINING ORDERS AND 
GET THE GUY PUT AWAY SOONER 
RATHER THAN LATER.
THE OTHER THING IS IT GOES BACK 
TO EMPOWERMENT.
IT'S A CONTROL THING.
YOU FEEL -- THE MORE YOU DO FOR 
YOUR SELF, RIGHT, THE MORE IN 
CONTROL YOU FEEL AND THE MORE 
POWERFUL YOU FEEL.
THAT FEAR GOES AWAY. 
>> WELL SAID. 
>> YEAH. 
>> YOU'RE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF 
THAT.
HONESTLY, I THANK YOU.
WITHOUT YOU, WHAT HAPPENED TO 
ME, IT MAY HAVE BEEN MONEY OFF 
AS WELL.
THANKS TO WOMEN WHO CAME BEFORE 
ME, FINALLY I WAS ABLE TO GET 
PEOPLE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
THE PERSON WHO CAME AFTER ME 
WENT TO JAIL FOR A LONG TIME AND
A MENTAL INSTITUTION AFTER THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE WITH 
KATHLEEN IN A BIT.
I WANT TO TELL YOU SHE'S GOT A 
I WANT TO TELL YOU SHE'S GOT A 
NEW SHOW CALLED "THE SAFETY 
