>> MORE THAN 100
UNITED METHODISTS CLERGY CAME
OUT AS MEMBERS OF THE LGBT
COMMUNITY IN AN EFFORT TO CHANGE
THE CULTURE WITHIN THE CHURCH.
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY COURAGEOUS
THING BECAUSE THEY HADN'T
COME OUT BEFORE, AND MANY OF
THEM COULD LOSE THEIR JOBS AS A
RESULT OF THIS LETTER THEY WROTE
AHEAD OF THE GENERAL CONFERENCE.
>> FIRST OFF, TOO MANY LETTERS.
IF YOU GO PAST I, I AM DONE
WITH IT.
SO, LGBGQI.
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY.
I 100% AGREE WITH THESE
FOLKS AND I ALSO 100%
DISAGREE WITH HIM.
I LOVE THEM, SOME OF THE BEST
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE
DEEPLY RELIGIOUS WHO LOOK TO
HELP THEIR FELLOW MAN.
I HAVE TALKED A LOT
ABOUT IT ON THE SHOW.
THEY ARE WONDERFUL HUMAN BEINGS
WHO DEVOTED HER LIFE TO
RELIGION AND IN DOING SO
HAVE HELPED OTHERS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR THE MOST PART
THESE GUYS ARE ON THE RIGHT
SIDE.
THAT IS THE PART I AGREE ON.
THE PART I DISAGREE ON,
IS IT IS IN THE BIBLE.
I KNOW YOU CAN CHOOSE TO
EMPHASIZE WHAT PART 
OF THE
BIBLE YOU WANT.
BUT IT IS 
IN THERE.
IT IS A TOUGH THING TO SAY THAT
RULES AREN'T WORKING INSIDE
OF A RELIGION.
YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
GOD'S WORLD IS CONTRADICTORY.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?
IT IS A CONTRADICTION THEY
CANNOT GET PAST.
I WISH THEY WOULD FIND A
DIFFERENT WAY TO HELP PEOPLE.
WE MIGHT DISAGREE ON THAT, BUT
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO THE
STATES, BUT THERE IS A DOWNSIDE
TO THE DOGMA AND BELIEVING
THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
IF YOU ARE GAY AND IT SAYS IN
THE BIBLE NOT TO LIE WITH
OTHER MEN, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK
AT THAT AND SAY SHOULD I
RUN MY LIFE BASED ON THIS
WHEN IT MAKES NO SENSE?
>> WHEN YOU READ THE BIBLE OR
ANY RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
CONTRADICTIONS THAT
COMPLETELY TURNED ME
OFF TO RELIGION.
THIS IS WHY I AM NOT
REALLY A BELIEVER.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH PEOPLE WHO INTERPRET
RELIGION IN A POSITIVE WAY.
FAITH IS VERY IMPORTANT, SO THAT
I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
WHAT MATTERS TO ME MORE THAN
ANYTHING IS CHANGING THE
CULTURE WITHIN A RELIGION.
TELLING THEM YOUR RELIGION SUCKS
IS NOT GOING TO HELP ANYTHING.
SUPPORTING THEM AND TRYING TO
CHANGE THE CULTURE IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND RISK
EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BUILT
FOR THEMSELVES CAREERWISE AND
CHANGE THE CULTURE IS SUPER
IMPORTANT AND ADMIRABLE.
>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I HAD AN UBER DRIVER IN NEW
YORK AND HE WAS QUOTING ALL
THESE GREAT PARTS OF THE QURAN.
HE SAID THAT IT SAYS IN THE
QURAN THAT WE SHOULD HELP
OTHERS AND HELP THE POOR.
AND I
SAID THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE
OTHER VERSES THAT SAY 
THE
OPPOSITE.
AND HE SAID NO.
>>MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
>> ON THE ONE HAND, I HAVE TO
TELL HIM THE TRUTH.
IT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE.
IF THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE OF THE
BOOK, THEN YOU CAN KILL THEM.
SO, IT IS A MESS, RIGHT?
ON THE ONE HAND WE HAVE THE
OBLIGATION TO TELL THE
TRUTH, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I
WANT TO PROMOTE THAT MUSLIM
GUY TO FOCUS ON THE GOOD PARTS
OF THE QURAN.
I HOPE WE CAN
THREAD THE NEEDLE AND HOPE TO DO
BOTH BECAUSE YOU NEED BOTH.
YOU
NEED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT
RELIGION ISN'T EXACTLY RIGHT,
BUT PROMOTE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
WONDERFUL INTERPRETATION OF
THEIR RELIGION.
