I HAD IDENTIFY' LIKE TO CALL THE
NOVEMBER 26, 2019, COMMITTEE
MEETING OF THE WHOLE TO ORDER.
SHOULD WE STAND AND RECITE THE
PLEDGE?
>> ONCE IS ENOUGH, CHAIRMAN.
BUT WHATEVER YOU WISH.
>> NO, YOU ARE THE VETERAN.
SO WE WILL GO BY YOUR.
MR. CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.
>> WILL DO.
ALDERMAN REDPATH.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERMAN GREGORY.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERWOMAN TURNER.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERMAN FULGENZI.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERMAN PROCTOR.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERWOMAN DiCENSO.
>> PRESENT.
>> ALDERMAN MCMENAMIN.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERWOMAN CONLEY.
>> PRINT.
>> ALDERMAN DONELAN.
>> HERE.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER.
>> HERE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, A QUORUM IS
PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION FOR
APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 12,
2019, COMMITTING MEETING.
>> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> ANY AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
ANY PRESENTATIONS?
>> YES.
>> I AM GOING TO PRESENT WHAT HE
IS GOING TO PRESENT.
HOW IS THAT?
>> GOOD EVENING.
IF YOU RECALL ABOUT A YEAR AGO,
I HAD A RETAIL STUDY DONE, AND
WE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION
SHORTLY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE
YEAR ON THEIR FINDINGS.
AND A LOT OF IT WAS A LOT OF
DATA THAT WE NEEDED, DATA THAT
WAS IMPORTANT FOR US FOR
ATTRACTING BUSINESSES.
SO WE STARTED TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW WE COULD BEST
DISSEMINATE THIS KIND OF
INFORMATION.
SO IN ONE OF OUR -- MOLLY AND I
MEET PROBABLY TWICE A MONTH.
IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS I WAS
BEMOANING THE FACT THAT I HAD
BEEN SEARCHING FOR SOME SORT OF
APPLICATION SOME WAY TO DISPLAY
THIS INFORMATION AND I DIDN'T
HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.
SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SAY,
WELL, SHOW ME WHAT YOU FOUND,
WHAT IS IT, AND I THINK MY GUYS
CAN PROBABLY REPLICATE IT.
SO I SENT THE WEB SITE TO HER
THAT I HAD FOUND IN THE WAY THAT
I THOUGHT THE INFORMATION NEEDED
TO BE PRESENTED.
AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT THE SITE SELECTORS LOOK FOR
IN A CITY AND FOR THEIR
LOCATIONS, AND SO I GOT THAT TO
HER, AND HER TEAM STARTED
WORKING ON AN APP FOR US.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU
THIS EVENING THE APPLICATION
THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT
FORWARD, OUR TEAM PUT ALL THE
MATERIALS TOGETHER AND SITUATED
IT THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD
LOOK THE BEST.
I WILL TURN IT OVER.
IS JOE GOING TO PRESENT, OR JOE?
>> JOE ZOO ZEIBERT FROM THE
PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO
DESCRIBE TO YOU WHAT THEY CAME
UP WITH THE CITY, THIS GREAT
PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE.
>> OKAY.
BASICALLY WE WILL DIVE RIGHT
INTO IT.
WE HAVE THE.
>> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
RECORD.
>> JOE ZEIBERT, REGIONAL
PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN AROUND
YOU, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE
RETAIL OPPORTUNITY SPRINGFIELD,
RETAIL WEB APPLICATION WE BUILT
NOR OFFICE OF PLANNING AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IN OUR WORLD, THIS IS CALLED
APPLICATION, BUT REALLY
INTERACTIVE WEB PAGE.
IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO KIND OF
SCROLL AROUND AND CLICK ON
THINGS AND GET INFORMATION AT
THEIR FINGERTIPS.
BASICALLY WE USE A STORY MAP FOR
THIS APPLICATION.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP,
SEVERAL CHAPTERS WITH THAT, WE
HAVE INTRODUCTION, WE HAVE MAJOR
RETAIL HUBS, NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL
HUBS, AND ECONOMIC INCENTIVE
AREAS.
AS YOU SCROLL LIKE A LOOK R
BOOK, YOU WILL SEE HOW THE APP
TALKS ABOUT CITY OF SPRINGFIELD,
GETS PEOPLE INFORMATION, AND GET
FAMILIAR WITH CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD.
AS YOU SCROLL DOWN LIKE THE
BOOK, YOU TEND TO IN A BOOK, THE
ILLUSTRATION CHANGES.
WHAT YOU GET FROM THIS SITE,
GENERAL FACTS, ABOUT THE
POPULATION, ABOUT THE CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD, AS WELL AS
CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CAPITAL
CITY.
IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND HOW
WE ARE WELL CONNECTED WITH RAIL,
WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANES AND
TALKS ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION AS
WELL.
AS YOU SEE, WHEN YOU TURN THE
PAGE, YOU WILL NOTICE THE
ILLUSTRATION ON THE RIGHT.
THOSE POINTS REPRESENT VARIOUS
RETAIL HUBS.
ONES IN ORANGE ARE MAJOR RETAIL
HUBS, ONES IN BLUE ARE
NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL HUBS.
WE ARE NOT QUITE COMPLETED WITH
NEIGHBORHOOD HUBS.
WHAT YOU SEE TONIGHT CAN BE
BUILT UPON.
IF YOU CLICK ON THE TAP AT THE
TOP, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND
CHAPTER YOU CAN REFER TO IT AS,
THERE WILL BE A WEB MAP THAT
LOADS.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE
VARIOUS LOCATIONS.
AGAIN, WE DID WORK WITH VAL AND
HER OFFICE, AND THEY DID HAVE A
RETAIL STUDY THAT WAS DONE OVER
THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
IT DID ESTABLISH SOME RETAIL
CENTERS.
AS YOU SCROLL DOWN ON THE LEFT,
AGAIN AS YOU TURN THE PAGE, AND
KEEP GOING DOWN, AS YOU GET TO A
NEW PAGE, NEW AREA WILL SHOW UP.
WHITE OAKS AREA, AND YOU CAN GET
VARIOUS INFORMATION.
WE ARE ALWAYS GETTING QUESTIONS
OR PHONE CALLS FROM DEVELOPERS
ASKING FOR VARIOUS FACTS ABOUT
THE CITY OF SPRINGFIELD.
IN IN FACT SHEET, YOU SEE UP
THERE, WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY
ONE AND THREE AND FIVE MILE
RADIUS.
INFORMATION IS BY -- THERE IS
POPULATION, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD
INCOME AND EMPLOYMENT.
THINGS POTENTIAL RETAILERS MAY
WANT TO KNOW AS THEY ARE LOOKING
O TO CITY OF SPRINGFIELD.
ON THE MAP, THERE ARE VARIOUS
COLORS, VARIOUS SHADES OF BLUE,
DARKER THE COLOR, THE HIGHER THE
POPULATION.
YOU CAN CLICK ON THE BLOCK GROUP
AND IT WILL GIVE YOU THE TOTAL
POPULATION.
ZOOM OUT FURTHER, YOU CAN ALSO
GET IT BIT CENSUS TRACK, MORE
LARGER CENSUS GEOGRAPHY OR ZOOM
IN AND GET THE CENSUS BLOCKS.
BLOCKS MAKE UP GROUPS, MORE DATA
AS YOU ZOOM IN.
WE HAVE THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
THIS IS AS OF 2015.
CURRENTLY 2019 AERIAL IS BEING
Q2AC AS WE SPEAK.
WE WILL UPDATE AS IT GETS
COMPLETED.
SCROLL ON THE LEFT, YOU GET
VARIOUS INFORMATION ABOUT THAT
RETAIL HUB.
IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN, WE HAVE
DRONE FOOTAGE THAT VAL'S OFFICE
HAD FLOWN WITH RETAIL STUDY
WHICH GIVES THAT PERSON LOOKING
AT THAT SITE, ADDITIONAL
PERSPECTIVE WHAT IS ACTUALLY
THERE WITHOUT BEING THERE.
HELP THEM DRAW IN A LITTLE BIT
MORE.
WE HAVE THOSE EMBEDDED WITHIN
THIS APPLICATION AS WELL.
IF YOU CONTINUE TO SCROLL SCROLL
DOWN, YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER DRONE
FOOTAGE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU
TO VIEW AS WELL AS SOME OF THE
OTHER MAJOR RETAIL HUBS THAT WE
HAVE ON THIS APP.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT TAB AT THE
TOP, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE
ARE KIND OF TWEAKING.
IT WON'T BE SHOWN RIGHT AWAY
WHEN WE GO LIVE.
WE WILL MAINLY FOCUS ON
INTRODUCTION AS WELL AS MAJOR
RETAIL HUBS, THIS IS TO GIVE
PEOPLE MORE REFINED -- IT IS
MORE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AREAS.
WE WILL HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF
INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS
PAGE AS WELL PER EACH SITE.
LASTLY, WE HAVE LAST TAB WHICH
INVOLVES ECONOMIC INCENTIVES.
WE WORK ESSENTIALLY WITH THE
OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT EARLIER IN THE YEAR
TO PRODUCE SOME T.I.F. MAPS AND
REVIEW THE T.I.F. MAPS OUT THERE
NOW.
WE REVIEWED ALL THE LEGALS AND
WE FIND THOSE T.I.F. MAPS
AVAILABLE ON YOUR WEB SITE.
IF YOU TURN ON -- THIS IS
INTERACTIVE WEB MAP.
ON THE LEFT, TURN ON T.I.F.
DISTRICTS, ZOOM INTO THAT, AND
CLICK ON IT, AND IT WILL TELL
YOU THE INFORMATION WHEN THE
T.I.F. WAS CREATED, WHEN IT IS
GOING TO EXPIRE AND LINK YOU UP
TO THE MOST LATEST PDF WE HAVE
ON THE WEB SITE THAT ETHAN IN
THE BACK CREATED.
ETHAN HENDRICKS BEHIND THE
CURTAIN, HE IS THE PERSON THAT
DID ALL THE WORK ON THIS. I
DEFINITELY THINK IT IS AN
APPLICATION WE CAN USE GOING
FORWARD.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> WHEN WILL THIS BE LIVE?
>> WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TWO
WEEKS OR SO.
>> THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
THANK YOU.
>> WE CONTINUALLY BUILD OFF OF
IT, TOO.
>> IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
FOR THE RECORD, I AM MOLLY
BERNS, SPRINGFIELD DIRECTOR OF
SPRINGFIELD-SANGAMON COUNTY
REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU ALDERWOMAN, FOR THAT
QUESTION.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL IN A BETA
TEST.
WE WANT TO GIVE PLENTY OF TIME
FOR JULIA FREVERT, DIRECTOR OF
COMMUNICATIONS TO LOOK OVER THE
CONTENT IN TERMS OF MESSAGING
AND WORK WITH VAL'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH
PLANNING AND SERVICES AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF SPRINGFIELD
AND OUR OFFICE TO DEVELOP
PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
BUT ULTIMATELY, EVEN THOUGH IT
IS A PARTNERSHIP, THE CONTENT
BELONGS TO THE CITY, WE ARE
DOTTING THE I'S AND CROSSING THE
T'S, WE ARE HOPING IN TWO WEEKS
TO GO LIVE WITH THIS PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU.
IMPRESSIVE.
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
FOR THE GUYS THIS.
>> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN
THIS FIRST STARTED, WE WERE
TRYING TO IDENTIFY RETAIL
OPPORTUNITY CENTERS.
>> UH-HUH.
>> IS THAT ALSO WRAPPED UP IN
THERE OUTSIDE OF CURRENTLY
ESTABLISHED ZONE?
>> MOSTLY IT IS THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE ARE TRYING TO ALIGN IT ALSO
WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE WANTED TO LINE THAT AREA, BUT
IT ALSO WITH THE STUDY, IT
IDENTIFIED MORE, YOU KNOW, SOME
OF OUR MAJOR RETAIL HUBS ARE
PRETTY OBVIOUS.
>> RIGHT.
BUT IT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HUBS
THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ME AND
FOR US TO GET OUT THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE REALLY
WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
WE WANTED TO REALLY DIG IN
FURTHER.
LIKE I SAID ALIGN IT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TOO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO
SEE ON THERE, SANGAMON CENTER
NORTH, SMALL RETAIL HUB AND
SOUTH DIRKSEN PARKWAY, CAPITAL
CITY SHOPPING CENTER.
>> IT IS.
>> HOTELS.
>> THAT IS PART OF IT.
>> ETHAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO
SOUTH DIRKSEN, ONE OF THE AREAS
ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED . IT IS
A MAJOR.
WE CONSIDERED IT A MAJOR.
>> IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PLAN
IDENTIFIED NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND THE
OBVIOUS PLACES WE ALWAYS THINK
OF IN TERMS OF MAJOR COMMERCIAL
LIKE ALDERMAN FULGENZI JUST
MENTIONED, BUT ALSO THE SMALLER
AREAS LIKE LAUREL, THAT GOES
FROM MAC ARTHUR BOULEVARD EAST,
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO
IDENTIFIES A MECHANISM BY WHICH
THE CITY COULD ENCOURAGE
DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE SMALLER
AREAS.
THOSE ARE CALLED SPECIAL
OPPORTUNITY AREAS WHERE
RESOURCES IN TERMS WHETHER
T.I.F. FUNDS OR OTHER ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT EXPANSION TYPE FUNDS
COULD BE UTILIZED.
BASICALLY JUST REQUIRES THE CITY
TO SAY WE WANT THIS AREA TO BE A
SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY AREA.
WE ARE GOING TO GEAR OUR
RESOURCES, BOTH FINANCIAL AND
ALSO PLANNING RESOURCES, TO
THOSE AREAS.
ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE TABS WE
HOPE TO IDENTIFY IS THOSE AREAS
AS WELL.
AND WORKING WITH VAL'S OFFICE TO
KIND OF HELP THAT PROCESS AND
MOVE FORWARD THROUGH ENTHAUL
PLANNING PROCESS FOR THOSE AREAS
AS WELL.
>>
>> NOW DO WE HAVE SOUTH TOWN IN
THERE?
>> YES, SOUTH TOWN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT.
I AM GOOD.
>> COME ON, BRING THEM.
I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN SOMETHING.
>> IT IS ALL GOOD.
THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
ELEVENTH STREET YOU WILL SEE.
>> WHAT ABOUT WEST JEFFERSON?
>> WEST JEFFERSON.
HOW FAR WEST?
(LAUGHING).
>> WAY WEST.
>> WAY WEST.
NO, SORRY AT THIS POINT.
>> AT THIS POINT, IT IS NOT ON
THERE.
NORTH GRAND AVENUE CORRIDOR.
THE ONES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY
THINK OF, ENOS PARK AREA.
BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS JOE
MENTIONED, WHEN THIS DOES GO
LIVE, NEIGHBORHOOD TAB WILL NOT
BE MADE LIVE.
WE ARE GOING TO HIDE IT.
ADDICTIONNAL WORK NEEDS TO BE
DONE ON THAT.
-- ADDITIONNAL WORK NEEDS TO BE
DONE ON THAT, AND CONSULTING
WITH VAL'S OFFICE AND ALL OF
YOU, WE CAN ACTUALLY ADD TO THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
>> SANGAMON CENTER NORTH ON
THERE AS MAJOR RETAIL HUB?
>> SANGAMON -- DON'T WE HAVE
SANGAMON ON THERE.
PARDON?
>> 19TH AND SANGAMON.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE THAT YET.
>> OKAY, LET'S GET THAT ON
THERE.
>> ANY TIME YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
IDEAS, PLEASE, LET US KNOW
BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE --
>> HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GOING TO
UPDATE IT?
>> THE NICE THING ABOUT
INVOLVING THE REGIONAL PLANNING
COMMISSION IN THIS IS ANY TIME
IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, IT IS
LITERALLY A PHONE CALL AWAY.
AND THEN SCHEDULE STAFF TIME,
BUT WE ARE TALKING DAYS, NOT
WEEKS OR MONTHS.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO OUR OFFICE
BEING ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE
THINGS FOUR VERSUS USING OUTSIDE
CONSULT TANT, IT WOULD BE MORE
EXPENSIVE AND COSTLY, BUT THE
UPDATING WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
AS OUR OFFICE BECOMES AWARE OF
THE DATA, CENSUS DATA,
POPULATION DATA, THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS, WE WILL BE UPDATING THAT
IN REAL TIME ESSENTIALLY AS A
MATTER OF A COUPLE OF DAYS WHEN
THE UPDATE WOULD OCCUR.
>> REAL QUICK, IF YOU DON'T
MIND, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU
DRILL DOWN ON THIS TO LIKE SHOW
WHAT IS ZONED A CERTAIN -- ALL
THE WAY DOWN TO THE GRANULAR OR
JUST MORE HIGH LEVEL.
>> NO.
IT DOES NOT GO INTO THE ZONING
DISTRICT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT
AND TIME YOU HAVE TOO MUCH DATA
IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM CRASHES.
IT DOES NOT GO DOWN INTO THAT.
IT GOES INTO TYPES OF BUSINESSES
THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, WOULD BE
SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT NOT DRILLED
DOWN TO THE ZONING LAYER.
ZONING MAP AS YOU KNOW IS
UNWIELDY LITTLE BEAST, IT CAN
BE.
THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE.
ACTUALLY THE WHOLE POINT IS HAVE
IT ON THE WEB, BUT DRIVE THEM TO
PEOPLE IN VAL'S OFFICE WHO CAN
ACTUALLY BE THERE, SPRINGFIELD
CONSULTANT IF SOMEBODY IS
LOOKING TO SITE HERE.
SOMEBODY IN VAL'S OFFICE COULD
TAKE IT FROM ZONING AND
DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND
CUSTOMIZE.
>> THIS IS BUILT FOR A SITE
SELECTOR.
IF THEY HAVE THE INTEREST, THEN
THEY ARE GOING TO CALL BECAUSE
WE GET THOSE CALLS ALL THE TIME.
>> I KNOW THIS IS ISN'T IN THE
CITY, FAIRGROUNDS WOULD BE A
GREAT DRAW FOR PEOPLE COMING TO
PUT ON AND EVENT.
>> MOLLY MIGHT JUST DO THIS FOR
THE COUNTY, HUH!
(LAUGHING).
>> SOMETHING TIED TO THE CITY.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS.
ONE OF MY -- AND I THINK I HAVE
MENTIONED THIS TO SEVERAL PEOPLE
BEFORE.
ONE OF MY PERSONAL THINGS IS
THAT WHEN, CREATED SPRINGFIELD,
THE WHOLE COUNTY BENEFITS.
WHEN JOBS ARE CREATED CREATED IN
UNINCORPORATED SANGAMON,
EVERYBODY BUSINESSES.
THERE ARE BUSINESSES IN THE
COUNTY THAT EVERYONE BENEFITS.
THIS WAS DEVELOPED FOR CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD.
BUT THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION HAS
APPLICANT.
YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN BUT
THIS APPLICATION COULD BE
REPLICATED TO INCLUDE OTHER
AREAS AS WELL.
HAVING SAID THAT, THIS IS GEARED
SPECIFICALLY TO RETAIL
DEVELOPERS FOR VAL'S OFFICE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT COULDN'T BE
A STEPPING OFF POINT FOR TYPE OF
DEVELOPERS AND JOB ATTRACTION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WILL JUST BRAG A LITTLE BIT
MORE ON THEM.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS
STORYTELLING APPLICATION OUT
TRYING TO LOOK, THEY STARTED
ABOUT 15,000, $18,000.
THANKS TO OUR PARTNERSHIP, WE
WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE.
>> NICE JOB.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOT THAT I WOULDN'T TAKE
ADDITIONAL CHECK.
>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
THIS IS ALREADY INCLUDED AS PART
OF OUR PARTNERSHIP, AND YOU
AREN'T ACTUALLY --
>> THIS PARTICULAR APP IS
INCLUDED THIS YEAR IN YOUR
PLANNING AND SERVICES AGREEMENT,
AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
KEEP IT H MIND, WE SERVE AS
CONSULTANTS OF THINGS LIKE THIS.
WE HAPPEN TO HAVE SMALL AMOUNT
OF DOWNTIME.
I WAS ABLE TO PUT THE RIGHT
STAFF PEOPLE ON THIS PROJECT TO
GET IT DONE IN EXPEDITED MANNER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YES.
>> ONCE IT GOES LIVE, CAN WE ALL
BE NOTIFIED?
>> YES.
ABSOLUTELY, YOU WILL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS OR IDEAS, PLEASE JUST
LET US KNOW.
>> WELL DONE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCES
TABLED OR REMAINING IN
COMMITTEE, MR. CLERK,.
>> 2017-103, 2018-110, 2019-008,
2019-276, 2019-430, 2019-483,.
>> DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO MOVE ANY
OF THOSE?
>> YES I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW
2019-483.
WE ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTING
WITH A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE.
>> WHICH IS 483.
>> NOW FOR ORDINANCES FOR
COMMITTEE CONSIDERATION.
>> CWLP.
2019-493 ORDINANCE APPROVING
CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE AND
AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL FUNDING
IN THE AMOUNT OF $31,479,000
WITH TOSHIBA AMERICAN ENERGY
SYSTEMS CORPORATION FOR
INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE OF
DAHL PAN POWER PLANT UNIT 4
TURBINE FOR TOTAL AMOUNT PAYABLE
OF 2 PUN $31,779 FOR OFFICE OF
PUBLIC UTILITIES.
>> MOVE TO CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
>> MOTION PASSES.
>> 2019-494 ORDINANCE APPROVING
CONTRACT EXTENSION AMENDMENT AND
AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL FUNDING
IN AMOUNT OF $220,000 WITH
ASCEND PERFORMANCE MATERIALS
OPERATIONS, LLC FOR PURCHASE OF
DI BASIC ACID NOT TO EXCEED
$1,540,000 FOR OFFICE OF PUBLIC
UTILITIES.
>> MOVE TO CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> ANY AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> PUBLIC SAFETY.
2019-484 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
PURCHASE OF FIVE DEFIBRILLATORS
PLUS ACCESSORIES AND SPARE PARTS
FROM ZOLL MEDICAL CORPORATION
NOT TO EXCEED $163,138.30 FOR
SPRINGFIELD FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> MOVE TO CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
>> YES.
WHERE WILL THESE BE LOCATED, ON
THE TRUCKS?
YOU ARE THE ONLY FIREMAN IN
HERE!
(LAUGHING).
>> I THOUGHT HE WAS STANDING
BEHIND ME!
(LAUGHING) YES.
THEY WILL BE LOCATED ON THE
TRUCKS.
WE ACTUALLY --
>> ARE THEY REPLACING OTHER
ONES.
WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE THAN THAT,
BUT THIS IS A START THANKS A
LOT.
>> THANKS.
>> ALDERMAN CONLEY.
>> HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> PUBLIC WORKS.
>> 2019-485 ORDINANCE
AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A
PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING
AGREEMENT FOR THE CHURCH HILL
ROAD BRIDGE OVER THE OLD
JACKSONVILLE BRANCH MFT SECTION
19-00487-00-BR, SN083-6,000 WITH
WHKS AND COMPANY ENGINEERING IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $198,952
FOR OFFICE OF PUBLIC WORKS.
>> MOVE FOR CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> 2019-486 RESOLUTION NOTIFYING
STATE OF ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION THAT MOTOR FUEL
TAX FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$198,952 MAYBE USED FOR CHURCH
HILL ROAD OVER OLD JACKSONVILLE
BRANCH, MFT SECTION
19-00487-00-BR FOR OFFICE OF
PUBLIC WORKS.
>> MOVE FOR CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
DO I HAVE A MOTION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
>> MOTION PASSES.
>> FINANCE 2019-488 ORDINANCE
LEVYING AND ASSESSING TAXES TO
PARTIALLY FUND THE STATUTORY
CONTRIBUTION OF THE POLICE AND
FIRE PENSION FUNDS.
>> MOVE TO DEBATE.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> 2019-489 ORDINANCE
AUTHORIZING A THREE YEAR
CONTRACT WITH BANNER FIRE
EQUIPMENT FOR PURCHASE OF
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
CONSISTING OF COATS AND PANTS
WITH POTENTIAL OF A 3% INCREASE
ON JANUARY 1 EVERY YEAR FOR THE
NEXT THREE YEARS FORE AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $270,000 FOR
SPRINGFIELD FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> MOVE TO CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> 2019-490 ORDINANCE
AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH HSHS
MEDICAL GROUP TO ADD STER DRUG
AND ALCOHOL TESTING FOR
POTENTIAL NEW HIRES FOR CURRENT
EMPLOYEES IN COMPLIANCE WITH
FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND
AUTHORIZING PAYMENT NOT TO
EXCEED $80,000 FROM JANUARY 1,
2020, THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2022
FOR OFFICE OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
>> MOVE TO CONSENT.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
>> IS THIS BID?
IS THIS BID OUT?
THANK YOU.
WE DID RFP.
WE GOT FOUR RESPONSES AND THIS
WAS LOW BIDDER.
>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION,
MR. CHAIR.
>> JIM, DO WE TEST ALL
APPLICANTS BEFORE THEY ARE
HIRED.
>> ALL NEW HIRES ARE TESTED.
>> REGARDLESS OF CATEGORY.
>> RIGHT.
>> REGARDLESS OF CLASSIFICATION.
>> RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> GENERAL CITY BUSINESS.
2019-491 ORDINANCE AMENDING
CHAPTER 110 OF THE 1988 CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD CODE OF ORDINANCES
AS AMEND PERTAINING TO CABLE AND
VIDEO SERVICE PROVIDER AND PEG
FEES.
>> MOVE TO TOO BATE.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
>> MR. MAYOR?
-- MR. CHAIR, A QUESTION, DOES
THIS PERTAIN TO I3?
>> YES.
THIS -- THIS PARTICULAR SECTION
IS NEW TO THE CITY CODE.
THE STATE LAW PROVIDES FOR
AUTHORITY FOR A CERTAIN DEFINED
COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE
ITS BUSINESS WITHIN THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAYS OF ANY CITY IN
ORDER FOR THE CITY TO PROPERLY
HAVE SOME INPUT AND OUR MONITOR
THAT PROCESS.
THIS ORDINANCE IS A COMPONENT OF
THAT STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS THE
CITY TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE IF
THEY GO TO -- IF THE COMPANY
GOES THE ROUTE OF TAKING THE
STATE AUTHORITY THROUGH THE
COMMERCE COMMISSION INSTEAD OF
FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
SO THIS PROVIDES CERTAIN
ABILITIES OF THE CITY TO IMPOSE
BOTH FEES AND ALSO MONITOR THE
COMPANY'S ACTIVITIES UNDER THE
STATE LAW PROVISIONS AND ALLOWS
THE CITY THEN TO ENFORCE CERTAIN
OF THOSE PROVISIONS IF WE DO NOT
ADOPT THIS, THIS TYPE OF AN
ORDINANCE, THEN IT IS UP TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
SO THIS IS TO ALLOW A LOCAL
AUTHORITY TO INTERACT WITH THAT
STATE LAW.
>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
SO IF WE WERE TO NOT PASS THIS
ORDINANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A
CASE OF I3, WILL HAVE HAD
ACTIVITY IN WARDS NINE AND 10,
WOULD THE CABLE AND OPTICS
COMPANIES BE ALLOWED TO GET INTO
THE EASEMENTS, EVEN IF WE DID
NOT HAVE THIS ORDINANCE, THAT'S
THE QUESTION?
>> YES.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO
CONFIRM BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF
PUBLIC COMMENTS OUT THERE THAT
SOMEHOW THE CITY COUNCIL HAS
AUTHORITY TO ALLOW OR DISALLOW
THE FIBER OPTIC ACTIVITY AND
WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR
CITY ATTORNEY IS THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS GOT NO DISCRETION TO
PREVENT ACCESS TO THE EASEMENTS.
>> AND THAT IS CORRECT.
IN OTHER WORDS, AND I DO THINK
WE DID TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS
PRIOR TO THIS TIME, BUT THE
STATE LAW PROVISIONS ALLOW FOR A
COMPANY, CERTAIN DEFINED
COMPANIES, TO APPLY FOR
AUTHORITY TO OPERATE WITHIN THE
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS WITHOUT A
LOCAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
AND IN THIS CASE, THIS IS ONE OF
THE FIRST INSTANCES WHERE THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE HAS OCCURRED.
SO THAT STATE LAW PROVIDES THAT
A CITY MAY ADOPT AN ORDINANCE
SUCH AS THIS, AND THIS ACTUALLY
IS BASED OFF THE ILLINOIS
MUNICIPAL LEAGUE KIND OF MODEL
ORDINANCE WITH SOME
MODIFICATIONS TO BASICALLY
ADDRESS THAT CIRCUMSTANCE
BECAUSE THERE IS AT LEAST ONE
OTHER COMPANY THAT IS PROCEEDING
IN THAT SAME MANNER.
THERE IS ANOTHER PROVISION OF
THE LAW NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO
IN THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A
SIMILAR ORDINANCE HAVING TO DO
WITH THE ABILITY TO USE THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHOUT HAVING A
LOCAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
>> MY LAST COMMENT IS THAT I
BELIEVE I3 PERSONNEL HAVE WORKED
DILIGENTLY AFTER COMMENTS FROM
OUR HOMEOWNERS AND SO FORTH TO
BE RESPONSIVE TO CONCERNS AND I
BELIEVE WE HAVE GOT THREE
GENTLEMEN OR MORE HERE TONIGHT,
AND LIKEWISE, THEY CAME TO THE
WARD 7 TOWN HALL MEETING AND
CAME TO WARD 8 TOWN HALL
MEETING.
IS THAT CORRECT?
I THINK I3 IS DOING WHAT THEY
CAN TO TRY TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS
AND FIX PROBLEMS THAT ARE OUT
THERE. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT.
>> ALDERMAN DONELAN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT
FURTHER, CORPORATION COUNSEL,
THE FEES THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED
AND IF WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATED
REVENUES WHAT THAT WOULD BRING
TO THE CITY?
>> WE DO NOT.
WE DO NOT HAVE ESTIMATED
REVENUES IN RELATION TO, FOR
EXAMPLE, I3, BUT THIS WOULD
IMPOSE THE SAME TYPE OF
ARRANGEMENT AS IF WE HAD A LOCAL
FRANCHISE AGREEMENT OF 5%.
THAT'S ALLOWED SPECIFICALLY
UNDER THE STATE LAW CALLED OUT
IN THE STATE LAW IF THE CITY
ADOPTS THE ORDINANCE.
OTHERWISE, THEN THERE WOULD BE
NO FEES PAID.
>> WHERE DOES THAT REVENUE GO?
>> I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PART OF
GENERAL REVENUES FOR CORPORATE
FUND OR GENERAL REVENUES TO THE
CITY.
>> THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.
THANK YOU.
>> ALDERMAN REDPATH.
>> CORPORATION COUNSEL, THERE IS
SIMILAR SITUATION GOING ON WITH
THE AMEREN GAS COMPANY PUT ING
THE GAS SNIFTERS ON THE POLES.
THEY ATTEMPTED TO PUT THEM ON
OUR UTILITY POLES AND WE DIDN'T
ALLOW IT.
NOW THEY ARE PUTTING THEM IN
RIGHT OF WAYS.
ONE OF THE BUSINESSES IN MY
AREA, PIZZA RANCH, THEY PUT THE
POLE IN FRONT OF THEIR SIGN SO
YOU CAN'T READ THEIR MENUS AND
STUFF OFF THAT.
IS THIS THE SAME STATE LAW THAT
FALLS -- THAT THEY WOULD FALL
UNDER, TOO.
NOW THEY ARE STICKING THEM UP IN
THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
THERE IS ALSO ONE OUT ON
SANGAMON AVENUE BY ALL DI, JOHN,
YOUR AND DORIS' AREA RIGHT
THERE.
>> YOU MAY RECALL THAT AMEREN
GAS AND AMEREN ELECTRIC BOTH
HAVE LOCAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS
WITH THE CITY.
SO THE -- THIS PARTICULAR STATE
LAW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
TONIGHT DOES NOT APPLY OR IS NOT
AFFECTED, DOES NOT APPLY TO THE
AMEREN SITUATION.
BUT WE HAVE A LOCAL FRANCHISE
AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS AMEREN TO
OPERATE WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
AREAS UNDER CERTAIN SUPERVISION.
SO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE
LOCATIONS OR SIGNS HAS TO BE
APPROVED BY THE CITY.
SO IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC
COMPLAINT, THEN THE APPROPRIATE
DEPARTMENTS EITHER BY WAY OF
PUBLIC WORKS OR THE UTILITY,
MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
SIGN LOCATION.
>> THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I JUST THINK IT IS
REMARKABLE THEY WOULD PUT A POLE
IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS SIGN.
I WILL GET WITH YOU, DOUG, IS
THAT CORRECT?
>> IF WE COULD GET AT DRESS,
THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CHECK.
>> I WILL TALK TO NATE
AFTERWARDS.
IF WE JUST HAVE SOME COMMON
COURTESY TO NOT DO THAT TO
BUSINESSES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
>> ALDERWOMAN DiCENSO.
>> THANK YOU.
WE ARE RECENTLY -- ALL THE ALL
DER PEOPLE RECEIVED A LIST OF
LOCATIONS WHERE THE I3 WAS GOING
IN.
IS THERE ANYWAY THAT COULD BE
MADE PUBLIC?
BECAUSE AS THIS GOES ALONG,
PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHERE IS THIS
GOING TO GO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD I
BE PREPARED.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE
HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP
INSTEAD OF JUST SHOWING, YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE SHOWING UP,
STICKING STUFF IN THEIR YARDS
AND NOT KNOWING WHAT GOING ON.
CAN WE MAKE THAT -- CAN WE
PUBLISH THAT THERE.
>> MR. JOSH BRADBURY.
>> IT WOULD BE GOOD BUSINESS
PRACTICE.
>> IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT
BUSINESS PRACTICE.
>> IT WOULD ALSO GIVE RESIDENTS
THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW IF THERE
IS SOME DAMAGE TO THEIR
PROPERTY, THAT THEY DO HAVE
RECOURSE AND NOT JUST ALLOW IT
TO GO.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
ABSOLUTELY.
WE DO ANTICIPATE.
>> CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME.
JOSH BRADBURY WITH I3 BROADBAND.
WE HAVE INDICATED TO ALL THE
RESIDENTS, AND THE PRESENTATION
WE WILL BE DOING WILL SHOW WHAT
THAT LOOKS LIKE.
FOR COMPETITIVE REASONS, WE
DON'T BROADCAST A LARGE AREA
WHAT WE ARE DOING FAR IN
ADVANCE.
WE DO THAT BEFORE ANY DRILLS ARE
IN THE GROUND OR CONSTRUCTION
BEGINS.
WE COMMUNICATE WITH EVERY
RESIDENT IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> I KNOW OTHER AREAS OF TOWN
THAT HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON OR
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING
IN THEIR YARDS.
WE DON'T -- I LOOKED AT THE LIFT
AND SAW SEVERAL IN MY AREA, AND
I DON'T WANT THE ANGRY PHONE
CALLS.
"WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY YARD!"
BECAUSE THE THREE ON THE END
HERE HAVE RECEIVED THEM.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY
TRANSPARENT GOING FORWARD.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS A BUSINESS,
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN A
EFFECTS PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW,
YARDS, THEY NEED TO THOUGH WHAT
IS GOING ON.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE ARE IN A VERY SMALL AREA SO
FAR.
WE ARE ONLY INTO ABOUT 600 HOMES
WHO WE HAVE AFFECTED, AND WE ARE
GETTING MULTIPLE COMMUNICATIONS
TO EACH OF THEM PRIOR TO ANY
CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THOSE ARE -- WE
DID BOTH MAILERS WHICH CAN
EASILY BE THROWN AWAY OR NOT
READ.
WE ALSO HAND DELIVERED BAGS WITH
INFORMATIONAL BAGS WITH CANDY
FOR THE KIDS, HALLOWEEN THEMED
BAG WITH INVITATIONS TO COME AND
MEET US, AT A PAPO'S CAFE AND
GET A COFFEE AND COMMUNICATE
WHAT IS GOING ON MANY WE WERE AT
WARDS 7 AND 8 TO TRY TO GET THE
WORD OUT.
WE HAVE GONE TO EACH SINGLE DOOR
AND KNOCKED ON THEM AND FOLLOWED
UP WITH FURTHER COMMUNICATIONS
WITH THEM.
YEAH, WE CERTAINLY ARE WORKING
TO MAKE THAT PROCESS BETTER.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE ON
THAT.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER.
>> I THINK THE FRUSTRATING PART
FOR I THINK ONE OF MY
NEIGHBORHOODS WAS THE FIRST THAT
HAD IT DONE, AND IT WAS DONE IN
THE SPRING.
AND PEOPLE ARE KIND OF FIRED UP
ABOUT GETTING THEIR YARD DONE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, MARKS IN THEIR
YARD, FLAGS EVERY WHERE.
I MEAN THEY WERE EVERY WHERE
FROM THE LOCATERS, AND IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN ONE THING HAD THEY PUT
THE FLAGS UP AND THEN THEY WOULD
HAVE GOTTEN DONE IN A WEEK OR
SO.
BUT SOME OF THEM WERE THERE FOR
A LONG TIME.
I WAS GETTING A LOT OF
COMPLAINTS.
THEN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU DIG AND
WHATEVER, THEY WERE JUST
COMPLAINING I GOT COMPLAINTS
THAT THINGS WEREN'T DONE IN A
TIMELY MANNER.
GRANTED YOU DEAL WITH THE RAIN
AND THE WEATHER AND WHATEVER,
BUT THE LOCATE ER FLAGS WAS ONE
OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I HAD
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET
THEIR YARD IN SHAPE AND THAT.
SO THAT WAS -- AND I HAD NO
IDEA, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA
WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I AM GETTING BOMBARDED BY CALLS.
WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA.
>> THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION,
ALDERMAN HANAUER.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
AS OFTEN AS THE CASE WHEN THERE
IS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING
ON, THEY ALL SEEMED TO GET
LUMPED TOGETHER.
TO BE CLEAR, WE WILL SHOW YOU
LATER ON EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE
BUILDING CURRENTLY.
WE STARTED THAT IN OCTOBER OF
THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE --
>> ANOTHER COMPANY, SAME KIND OF
DEAL.
>> ANOTHER COMPANY.
I BELIEVE IT WAS AMEREN IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD EARLIER IN THE
SPRING.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS THIRD PARTY.
>> PERHAPS IT WAS -- IT WAS A
DIFFERENT COMPANY.
I CAN ASSURE YOU IT WASN'T US
EITHER WAY.
BUT YOUR MESSAGE IS STILL HEARD.
>> MR. BRADBURY, COUNCIL IS
READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALDERMAN CONLEY.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU ARE
DOING A PRESENTATION, TOO.
BUT FOR THE COUNCIL HERE, WHAT
WE SAID, MY WARD 8 MEETING, ONE
OF THE OTHER COMPLAINTS HAKIM UP
IN ADDITION TO, NOT TO COME
BOMBARD YOU WITH COMPLAINTS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT
THIS, TOO, AND WOULD LIKE MORE
OPTIONS FOR INTERNET.
BUT IT IS THE TRUCKS, AND THE
SIZE OF THEM.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THESE
GENTLEMEN WERE AT MY MEETING,
STAYED AFTER TO TALK TO PEOPLE
WHO STILL HAD CONCERNS.
SO JUST MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW
FOR OTHER WARDS AND OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS, THE TRUCK
LOCATIONS FOR THOSE BIG SPOOLS
OF WIRE OR WHATEVER, THAT WAS
DEFINITELY AWKWARD AND
INTERFERED A LOT WITH
NEIGHBORHOODS.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING YOU
AGREED TO KEEP IT MIND AS YOU
ARE MOVING FORWARD.
JUST HEADING EVERYONE OFF ON THE
PHONE CALLS YOU ARE GETTING.
>> WE ARE SO THANKFUL TO BE HERE
TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CONTACT
WITH YOU ALL.
SO YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT AND
WHO TO GET IN TOUCH WITH IF YOU
HAVE INQUIRIES FROM YOUR
RESIDENTS.
>> GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
BRIAN OLSON, GENERAL MANAGER OF
I3 BROADBAND.
BRANDON HENDRICKS DIRECTOR OF
ENGINEERING.
>> I AM DAMIAN COLLINS, DIRECTOR
OF ADDITIONS AND OPERATIONS OF
SPRINGFIELD.
>> I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF AN
ADD-ON TO LAST WEEK'S
CONVERSATION.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BOTH THE
TIME WE WERE GIVEN AT THE 7 AND
WARD 8 MEETINGS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD MISSED THE
OPPORTUNITY, I BELIEVE A WEEK
EARLIER FOR WARD TEN MEETING.
AS JOSH MENTIONED, WE DID BEGIN
A SMALL AMOUNT OF NETWORK
CONSTRUCTION IN WARD TEN JUST I
THINK IT WAS LAST MONDAY I
BELIEVE WAS THE FIRST TIME WE
HAD DONE THAT.
YOU WILL SEE HERE IN OUR
PRESENTATION THAT IS ACTUALLY
KIND OF ADDING ONTO VAL AND HER
STAFF'S CONVERSATION, OUR
NETWORK IS BEING BUILT THERE NOW
TO FEED OUR NEW RETAIL STORE
WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING
OCCUPANCY AS OF SUNDAY.
IT IS PRETTY EXCITING.
JUST A BRIEF, BRIEF PRESENTATION
HERE.
I KNOW THERE IS PROBABLY GOING
TO BE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT WE
WILL TRY AND BE MINDFUL OF YOUR
TIME.
WE ARE A COMPANY THAT STARTED IN
ONE FORM OR ANOTHER SERVING
INTERNET SERVICE, DIAL UP IN THE
MID 90S, TRANSITIONED TO THE
CELAC, COMPETITIVE LOCAL
EXCHANGE CARRIER PROVIDING PHONE
AND INTERNET SERVICE.
IN EARLY 2 THINK, 2003 LAID
FIRST FIBER OPTIC BUSINESS
STRUCTURE, SERVED BUSINESS INS
DOWNTOWN PEORIA, AND PEKIN,
ILLINOIS.
IN 20, IT WAS WHEN WE -- LATE
2009, 20 WEATHER WE HAD GONE FOR
STRATEGY OF TRIPLE PLAY, FIBER
TO THE HOME, 100% FIBER UNDER
GROUND STRUCTURE BE AND TO
REALLY CHALLENGE THE SERVICES
AND SERVICE -- AND CUSTOMER
SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED
BY THE BIG COMPANIES.
UNNAMED BIG COMPANIES.
THAT WAS A SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH IN
2 O 009-20 IN 2014 FORMED A
PARTNER SHIP WITH
CHAMPAIGN-URBANA AND SERVING
GREATER CHAMPAIGN-URBANA AREA TO
ADD TO THE PEORIA AREA.
2018, WE HAD ACQUIRED A COMPANY
IN EAST BAY OF RHODE ISLAND, AND
WE NOW FAITHFULLY GROW AND
OPERATE THAT COMPANY AS WELL.
2019, HERE WE ARE VERY EXCITING
TIME FOR US.
WE ARE LAUNCHING OUR FOURTH
MARKET NOW.
I SAY WE ARE EXCITED, YOU CAN'T
IMAGINE, RIGHT.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED.
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THE CONSTRUCTION AND KEEP ON TOP
OF THAT UPDATE IS JOSH.
>> THANK YOU.
WE ALREADY TOUCHED ON SOME OF
THIS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE
IS AWARE WE ARE DILIGENTLY
TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AND MAKE
SURE THE WORD IS OUT OF NOT JUST
WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHO TO CALL,
WHO TO CONTACT.
WE WANT TO FIX ANY PROBLEMS
BEFORE THEY BECOME PROBLEMS
IDEALLY, AND SO WE DID SEND
THESE POST CARDS THAT YOU SEE
THAT FIRST ONE IS WHAT WE SEND
TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WE
CONSTRUCT AND HISTORICALLY HAVE.
IT IS DESIGNED NOT TO BE A SALES
TOOL.
IT IS JUST INTENTION AND
INFORMATION TOOL WE ARE COMING
TO YOUR AREA.
WE KNOW THAT THAT GETS THROWN
AWAY HALF THE TIME AND PEOPLE
HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO GO
DOOR TO DOOR.
WE TOOK HALLOWEEN BAGS AS
DEPICTED IN THE SLIDE THAT
CONTAINED TWO OF THE PIECES OF
INFORMATION THAT ARE IN YOUR
PACKETS THERE, ONE THAT WAS A
LETTER FROM BRIAN TO THE
RESIDENTS, A SECOND THAT WAS
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
LETTER AND THEN THIRD WE HAVE
THE FREE COFFEE INVITATION TO
COME JOIN US AT PAPOS.
WE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS AND
HAD A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE
GETTING TO KNOW ALMOST OF THOSE
RESIDENTS THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE
DONE BEFORE ANY DRILLS ARE IN
THE GROUND.
>> I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING TO
THE ATTENTION LETTER.
THERE IS ANOTHER COMPONENT TO
SAYING OR BEING NOTIFIED.
I THINK WHAT WE DISCOVERED IN
PARTICULAR YOUR WARD MEETING,
WAS THE CONVERSATION HAD ESCAPED
US AND INTO SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHEN IT HAD GOTTEN TO THAT, IT
IS GOING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARY
IN WHICH WE ARE ACTUALLY
CONSTRUCTING.
BUT IT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF
THE GROUP OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
WHAT I THINK WHAT WAS HAPPENING
IS WE NOTIFIED A CERTAIN PORTION
OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY
DOING CONSTRUCTION FOR, BUT THEN
I THINK WE WERE DISCOVERING AND
THROUGH TALKING TO SOME OF THOSE
RESIDENTS IS THEY FELT LIKE THEY
WEREN'T BEING NOTIFIED, BUT
BEING NOTIFIED ON SOCIAL MEDIA
SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING IN THE
AREA, BUT THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CONSTRUCTING
AT THEIR HOUSE OR PAST THEIR
HOUSE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE
LOSE THE POLYGON OF THE
DISCUSSION, THE DISCUSSION
POLYGON ISN'T NECESSARILY
MATCHING OUR CONSTRUCTION
POLYGON.
>> DANCING AROUND IS NEXT DOOR.
NEXT DOOR APP WHERE THERE WAS A
LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
>> AND IT IS IT GETTING OUTSIDE
OF THAT.
I HEARD ABOUT THIS, AND IT IS
HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
BUT IT IS REALLY NOT AS DEFINED
BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE ARE
ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING.
THAT THOUGHT WE HAVE TO
CONTEMPLATE.
>> ONE FURTHER COMMUNICATION WE
DID GIVE AS WELL, WE SENT A
LETTER THAT WOULD HAVE GOT TO
HOMES YESTERDAY.
JUST A FOLLOW-UP, WHAT THE
STATUS OF CONSTRUCTION IS,
ASSURING PEOPLE WE WILL NOT BE
DOING ANY CONSTRUCTION OVER THE
HOLIDAY WEEKEND, AND THAT WE
WOULD BE VACATING ON WEDNESDAY
AND COMING BACK TO CONTINUE AND
FINISH UP ON NEXT MONDAY.
>> DOES THAT INCLUDE MOVING ALL
THE TRUCKS?
>> THEY WILL BE MOVED TO SMALLER
AREAS, AND BRAN DAN CAN SPEAK TO
THAT.
>> THEY WOULDN'T DISAPPEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS, MAKING SURE
THEY ARE OFF MOST MAJOR ROAD,
TURNING MILL, I DROVE THERE,
THERE WAS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT
FOR SPRING MILL.
THERE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.
I SPOKE TO THE FOR MAN ABOUT
GETTING THAT MOVE.
SPECIFICALLY BY STATUTE, CANNOT
BLOCK DRIVEWAYS, OR BOXES.
THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY PLACES
FINISHED UP WITH A PIECE.
WHEN THEY ARE DONE WITH A PIECE.
>> IT IS A WEEKEND WHERE PEOPLE
HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THEIR
HOUSE.
>> SOME HOUSES MIGHT HAVE 20
CARS NEEDING TO PARK.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND TAKING
ADDITIONAL STEP TO GET
CONSOLIDATION IN MORE COMMERCIAL
AREAS WHERE WE CAN, BUT IT IS
SORT OF A JUGGLING ACT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> BUT WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND
TRYING TO DO BETTER, BUT WE KNOW
WE KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE
THERE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING
TO FRUSTRATE A FEW PEOPLE.
>> I WILL PASS ON THE E-MAILS.
>> DO.
HAVE THEM CONTACT US.
THAT IS REALLY THE NUMBER ONE
GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF
THERE IS A PROBLEM WHAT WE ARE
DOING, WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
>> E KAY.
THANK YOU.
>>
>> SO ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BE
DIRECT COMPETITIVE WITH XFINITY
COMCAST.
>> WE LIKE TO BELIEVE THEY ARE
NO COMPETITION TO US.
TRADITIONAL, YEAH.
>> SO HOW FAR ALONG ARE YOU IN
THE CITY?
WHERE ARE YOU AT?
>> WE WILL HAVE A SLIDE LATER
SHOWING EXACTLY WHERE THE
INITIAL CONSTRUCTION AREA IS.
>> TO THE ALDERMEN AFFECTED SO
FAR, YOU HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS I
UNDERSTAND, AND HOW WERE THOSE
TAKEN CARE OF?
WERE THEY TAKEN CARE OF?
>> ONCE WE FIGURED OUT WHAT WAS
GOING ORANGE I ACTUALLY THE
FIRST E-MAILS AND CONTACTS I GOT
WERE WHY DO I HAVE FLAGS IN MY
YARD.
I THINK THEY ALREADY COVERED
THAT.
FLAGS WERE PROBABLY OUT LONGER
THAN WAS GREAT FOR EVERYONE.
IT HAS BEEN A MIXED BAG.
I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE SAY I
DON'T WANT YOU IN MY YARD.
>> THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT HAVING
COMPLAINTS ABOUT THINGS GOING
ON.
>> YES, AND I WOULD SAY WE GOT
TO THE COMPLAINTS.
THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC
INCIDENTS THAT WERE DAMAGE WAS
CAUSED, AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING,
THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY
OUTSTANDING ISSUES, PEOPLE WHO
HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSE
OVERNIGHT, AND --
>> ARE YOU REFER --
>> THERE WAS A GAS LINE HIT NOT
BEING MARKED, USIC COMPANY, WHEN
JULIE WAS CALLED IN.
BACKSIDE OF KOKE MILL.
OUR CONTRACTORS DIDN'T KNOW TO
EXPOSE IT WHEN THEY CROSSED IT
AND DID DAMAGE.
>> THERE WAS ALSO DAMAGE TO THE
FENCE FOR THE KOKE MILL
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
>> WE ACTUALLY COINCIDENTALLY
HAD A MEETING WITH PUBLIC WORKS
THAT DAY.
IN THE FIELD WE MENTIONED THAT,
BEFORE WE LEFT TOWN, THREE HOURS
LATER THEY HAD FIXED IT.
>> MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
I HAVE SAT ON THIS COUNCIL CLOSE
TO 30 YEARS, I HAVE SEEN A LOT
OF PEOPLE COME AND PEOPLE GO.
EVERYBODY COMES HERE WITH
INTENTIONS OF DOING THE RIGHT
THING.
I AM NOT DOUBTING YOUR
INTENTIONS ARE GOOD.
CORPORATION COUNSEL, MY QUESTION
TO YOU IF WE APPROVE THIS, IF
THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH
FOLLOW UP ON THE MAINTENANCE, IS
THERE RECOURSE FOR US?
>> IF THE -- IF THE ORDINANCE IS
ADOPTED, THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO
ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF STATE
LAW.
IF WE DO NOT ADOPT A LOCAL
ORDINANCE, THEN IT WOULD BE UP
TO COMPLAINTS TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE, TO ENFORCE IT.
SO THE MECHANISM BECAUSE OF THE
AUTHORITY BEING GRANTED UNDER
THE STATE LAW PROVISIONS
THROUGHOUT COMMERCE COMMISSION,
THIS MECHANISM OF ADOPTING A
LOCAL ORDINANCE IS ALLOWED UNDER
THAT STATE LAW IS THE ONLY
MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY WOULD
HAVE THE POTENTIAL ABILITY TO
MONITOR AND OR ENFORCE CERTAIN
CUSTOMER STANDARDS.
>> OKAY.
NOT I AM PICKING ON YOU, BUT
JUST UNDERSTAND, WE GET THIS.
AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
WISH YOU LUCK BECAUSE I GET MORE
COMPLAINTS ABOUT CABLE TV IN
SPRINGFIELD WITH XFINITY AND
COMCAST THAN I DO PUBLIC WORKS
AND POLICE AND FIRE ALTOGETHER.
BELIEVE ME, PEOPLE ARE READY FOR
COMPETITION.
OKAY.
THANKS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I
CARRY ON?
>> DO YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR
PRESENTATION?
OR IS THIS THE END OF IT?
>> NO, THERE ARE,.
>> A FEW MORE SLIDES.
>> MAYBE HOLD THE COMMENTS UNTIL
AFTER YOU PRESENT IT ALL.
>> SURE.
>> SO THE FLAGS, ONCE
CONSTRUCTION, ONCE YOU YOU HAVE
BEEN NOTIFIED CONSTRUCTION IS
COMING, THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL
FEE, FIRST THING IS FLAGS
SHOWING UP AND YOU WILL SEE
EQUIPMENT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS THE BUILDING PROCESS IS
TAKING PLACE, YOU WILL SEE HOLES
AND CONES AND TARPS WHILE IT IS
BEING TAKEN CARE OF, AND PIPES
STICKING OUT OF THE GROUND.
THAT'S KIND OF MAKING PROCESS,
PEEKING BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND
SEEING WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO THEY THERE ON THE LEFT, YOU
WILL SEE A SPECIFIC LOCATION IN
ONE OF THE AREAS WE WERE
BUILDING TO GET A CALL FROM THAT
RESIDENT, CAME HOME AND SAW
THAT, AND THAT WAS HIS FIRST
INCLINATION, DID NOT SEE THE
CONSTRUCTION MAILER.
GAVE US A CALL AND SAID WHAT IS
GOING ON, AND WE TALKED ABOUT
THAT, AND LESS THAN TWO DAYS
LATER PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
IMPORTANT THING TO COMMUNICATE,
WE DID NOTHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE
OF THAT CALL.
WE ASSURED HIM WE WILL DO WHAT
WE ALWAYS DO AND TAKE CARE OF
IT.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN
IT IS FINISHED, WHEN YOU GO TO
THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE WRAPPED
UP BE THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AREAS, WE JUST STARTED MOVING
INTO, WARD TEN, LOOKS LIKE THE
LEFT.
>> THAT'S WHAT WARD TEN LOOKS
LIKE ALL THE TIME.
SOMETHING I THINK IS LITTLE MORE
UNIQUE TO US, WE WORK WITH
PERFECTLY CABLE CONSTRUCTION,
DOING COMMUNICATION FIBER TO THE
HOME BUILTS.
WE HAVE USED A NUMBER OF
CONTRACTORS OVER THE YEARS, THE
REASON WE STAYED WITH PERLEY IS
BECAUSE OF THEIR COMPETENCY AND
QUALITY OF WORK.
IT DOES NO GOOD TO LAY STATE OF
THE ART FIBER OPTIC
INFRASTRUCTURE IF THEY TEARS
EVERYBODY'S YARDS UP, AND THAT
WOULD BE FOOLISH INVESTMENT WE
HAVE LONG RELATIONSHIP, THEY ARE
RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS AND US.
WE OPERATE UNDER VERIFIED
POLICY.
AFTER THE QUALITY CHECKS, OUR
TEAMS COME THROUGH AND DO THE
FINAL DETERMINATIONS, ONE OF THE
JOBS IS DO THE QC, AUDIT OF THE
WORK, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS
DONE TO SPECIFICATIONS.
EVERYTHING NOT DONE IN A
REASONABLE FASHION IS BROUGHT
BACK TO PERFECTLY COMPANY TO
CLEAN UP.
IF MY GUYS AREN'T DOING THEIR
JOBS, AND CONTRACTORS AREN'T
DOING THEIR JOB.
IF SOMETHING SLIPS THROUGH THE
CRACKS WHEN THE DOOR TO DOOR
TEAMS ARE AVAILABLE, AND THEIR
NUMBER ONE JOB IS TOUCH BASE
WITH RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE,
AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE
BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THEY
HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US AND
BRING THEM TO US.
JOSH CAN SPEAK MORE TO US.
>> THAT'S NUMBER ONE GOAL TO
ENSURE THAT THE CUSTOMER IS
HAPPY.
WHETHER THEY BECOME A CUSTOMER
NOW, OR YEAR FROM NOW, IF THEY
ARE NOT HAPPY WHAT WE HAVE DONE
TO THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WILL
NEVER BE A CUSTOMER AND FAILED
INVESTMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN IN THOUSANDS OF
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IF WE DON'T
DO A GOOD JOB, WE FAIL, AND WE
HAVEN'T FAILED AT ANY OF THESE
NEIGHBORHOODS YET.
AGAIN, UNIQUE TO SPRINGFIELD, WE
HAVE HAD HIRED SOMEONE
DEDICATED, DAMIAN COLLINS, HE IS
INDUSTRY VETERAN, LOCAL
SPRINGFIELD RESIDENT, AND WE
BROUGHT HIM ON BOARD THIS SUMMER
TO BE DEDICATED.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ZERO CUSTOMERS
AND DAMIAN IS FULL TIME
EMPLOYEE, TO ENSURE CUSTOMERS
ONCE WE GET TO THAT PHASE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THE ROAD
WOULD BE HELD TO THE STANDARDS
WE DO IN OUR EXISTING
COMMUNITIES.
>> YOU CAN SEE, HELP ME WITH THE
STREETS, KOKE MILL ON THE EAST?
>> EAST IS VETERANS.
>> EAST SIDE OF THAT IS
VETERANS, P WE GO JUST WEST OF
KOKE MILL, FURTHER SOUTHWEST
CORNER THERE.
LITTLE OVER 600 HOMES IS WHAT WE
ARE CONSTRUCTING RIGHT NOW.
THIS YEAR WE WANT TO HAVE VERY
SOFT OPENING P WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE CREATE THE RELATIONSHIPS
WITH YOU ALL, AS THE CITY, WITH
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE A SUCCESSFUL DEPLOYMENT IN
SPRINGFIELD AS WELL AS WE WANT
TO OPEN RETAIL SPACE WHICH WE
WILL BE TAKING CONTROL OF ON
SUNDAY.
PROBABLY NOT UNTIL MONDAY
BECAUSE I AM NOT COMING IN ON
SUNDAY.  IT WILL BE OPEN
PROBABLY BEGINNING JANUARY 1 IS
OUR GOAL.
IT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE
GOING.
2020, WE WILL LOOK TO HAVE MORE
BROAD DEPLOYMENT.
>> THIS IS REALLY JUST A
RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE HEARD FROM VARIOUS
DIFFERENT EITHER RESIDENTS OR
CITY STAFF.
SO IT IS REALLY WHAT IS THIS
FIBER DEPLOYMENT, WHY IS IT
IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, HOW
HAVE WE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
THOSE ARE THE HANDFUL OF
QUESTIONS.
REALLY WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL
WE JUST, AGAIN, SO PROUD.
WE WERE NAMED BY BROADBAND NOW
AS THE SECOND FASTEST IN THE
NATION FOR FASTEST OVER ALL
INTERNET SPEED PROVIDED TO
CONSUMERS.
WE WERE RATED FIFTH IN THE
NATION FOR CUSTOMER APPROVAL.
THAT'S PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY IN A
INDUSTRY DESTROYED OF CUSTOMER
SERVICE.
I HOPE EVERYONE HEARS THAT.
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT SEPARATES
US, RIGHT.
THAT FENCE BEING FIXED BY THE
TIME WE LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH
ANY OF OUR COMPETITORS, NONE OF
THOSE -- YOU KNOW, I SAID IT AT
YOUR MEETING, WE ARE NOT A HUGE
COMPANY, BUT WE ARE NOT A SMALL
COMPANY.
WHAT WE ARE IS THE PERFECT SIZE
COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO HEAR A
PROBLEM AND RESPOND TO IT.
IN THE PACKET YOU ALL HAVE,
THERE IS FAQ, THAT'S THE FAQ
THAT WENT OUT TO ALL THE
RESIDENTS.
FIBEROPTICS IS NEXT GENERATION
OF IN TRUCKING PLACED THROUGHOUT
THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS NOT NEW.
YOU KNOW, IN THE FA REQUEST,
POINTS OUT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO,
WE WERE THE FIRST ELECTRIC AND
TELEPHONE NETWORKS BEING PLACED.
THAT WAS A 50 YEAR PROJECT.
60S, THROUGH THE 80S, CABLE
COMPANIES, WIRED AMERICA FOR THE
CO AX INFRASTRUCTURE.
TIME HAS COME, AND MOST OF
AMERICA IS BEING DEPLOYED WITH
FIBER OPTIC INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE DOING.
WE ARE SETTING THE NETWORK FOR
NEXT GENERATION.
WE HAVE MET WITH SOME OF THE
FOLKS AT CWLP.
HAD A GREAT CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVE DISCOVERED REALLY OUR
NETWORK AND OUR BUSINESS CAN BE
THE PERFECT COMPLIMENT.
FEW PEOPLE HAVE ASKED IF WE ARE
REPRESENTING COMPETITION AT CWLP
FIBER NETWORK, THE ANSWER IS NO.
WE ARE A COMPLIMENT.
AND OBVIOUSLY FOR ALL THE
CONSUMERS IN THE COMMUNITY,
COMPETITION DRIVES UP PRICES.
WE HAVE PROVEN THAT THE LAST 15
YEARS.
EVERY WHERE WE DEPLOYED OUR
NETWORK, COMPETITION LOWER THEIR
PRICES ALL RESIDENTS FACE.
WE WILL ASK PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE
HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION, I
THINK IT WAS YOU THAT SAID IT, I
MIGHT NOT EVEN WANT THIS IN MY
YARD.
THAT'S FINE, BUT THEY CAN STILL
ENJOY THE LOWER PRICES FROM
EXISTING PROVIDER.
>>.
THEN JUST FROM THE SAVINGS TO
THE CONSUMERS FROM THE ABILITY
FOR PEOPLE TO WORK FROM HOME,
FROM HAVING HIGH CAPACITY
RELIABLE CONNECTION TO
ENTERPRISE ATTRACTIVENESS TO A
COMMUNITY, FOR US COMING IN
CREATING JOBS.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A MULTI
FACETED ECONOMIC DRIVER.
ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION,
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS BE WE WOULD BE GLAD TO
ANSWER THEM.
>> ANY DISCUSSION, ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> PEOPLE WILL REDIRECT TO YOUR
RETAIL SPACE IN JANUARY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
COMING IN AND TAKING ALL THE
QUESTIONS AT ALL THE MEETINGS
AND TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> PURCHASE APPRECIATED, HAPPY
THANKSGIVING TO YOU, EVERYBODY.
>>
O MOTION I THINK --
>> IT IS FOR DEBATE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> AGAINST?
MOTION PASSES.
>> 2019-492 ORDINANCE AMENDING
CHAPTER 170 OF THE 1988 CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD CODE OF ORDINANCES
AS AMENDED REQUIRING POSTING OF
NO TRESPASS SIGNS ON UNSAFE AND
DANGEROUS AND OR BOARDED
PROPERTY.
>> MOVE TO DEBATE.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
ALDERWOMAN TURNER?
>> IF THE OWNER IS REQUIRED TO
POST A NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, IS
THERE A, UM, SIGN OR SOME OTHER
CONSEQUENCE ASSOCIATED FOR
FAILURE TO DO SO?
>> IT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE
VIOLATION JUST LIKE ANY OTHER.
YES, THERE COULD BE A FINE.
>> SO --
>> BUT MOST OF THESE, KEEP IN
MIND, ONE OF DIFFICULTIES IS
MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE
ONES WHERE THE OWNER IS REALLY
NON-RESPONSIVE.
SO THE GIST OF THIS, IF I MIGHT
JUST TAKE A MOMENT, TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
ALDERMAN GREGORY HAD REQUESTED
ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO
POST IT IN THE EVENT THE OWNER
DOES NOT.
BUT MANY OF THESE UNSAFE AND
DANGEROUS OR BOARDED BUILDINGS
ARE ONES WHERE THE OWNER IS
SIMPLY NOT RESPONSIVE.
WE WILL GIVE THEM A NOTICE.
WE WILL HAVE INSTANCE WHERE THEY
WILL GO THROUGH THE
ADMINISTRATIVE COURT PROCESS,
EVEN TO COURT STILL WITH NO
RESPONSE.
SO THE PRIMARY CHANGE IN THIS
WHICH YOU COULD CERTAINLY SAY
WOULD BE QUITE SIGNIFICANT WOULD
BE TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT,
MEANING IN THIS CASE, PUBLIC
WORKS, TO -- THROUGH THE
INSPECTORS BEING ABLE TO GO
AHEAD AND POST THE PROPERTY.
WE LOOKED AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF DUE
PROCESS ISSUES RELATING TO THE
GOVERNMENT GOING ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY AND BEING ABLE TO POST
A NO TRESPASS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS LIMITED
PROCESS IN THE CASE INVOLVING
UNSAFE AND DANGEROUS WHERE THERE
IS A DANGER TO THE PUBLIC AND OR
A BOARDED WHERE THERE IS TO BE
NO OCCUPANCY OR INSTANCES WHERE
THE CITY CAN PROPERLY HAVE THE
AUTHORITY THAT IF THE OWNER
FAILS TO POST, THEN THE CITY CAN
TAKE THE INITIATIVE AND POST IT,
AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN IN
TURN ENFORCE IT AGAINST A
TRESPASSER.
>> ALDERMAN GREGORY.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT
WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY
THAT THE MAIN S RESPONSIBILITY
LIES WITH THE OWNER OF THE
PROPERTY, THERE SHOULD BE SOME
CONSEQUENCE IF THE OWNER DOESN'T
DO IT INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING
THAT THEN CITY CAN DO IT.
>> WELL, IT WOULD BE -- WOULD
POTENTIALLY END UP WITH A NORMAY
NORMAL, WITH A TYPICAL ORDINANCE
VIOLATION FINE GOING THROUGH THE
PROCESS WHERE THE NOTICE IS
ISSUED.
WE FILE AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION
COMPLAINT, AND THERE ARE
STANDARD FINES OR PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE
PROVISIONS.
SO IT CAN BE PER DAY OR CAN BE
INSTANCES BEING MIGHT BE A
HUNDRED DOLLARS OR LIKE IN
ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE IN
A GENERIC WAY, LIKE THE WAL-MART
SCENARIO, WE HAVE GENERAL
ABILITY TO ASK FOR FINES.
NOW IF -- I WAS SIMPLY GOING TO
SAY, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS
UNRESPONSIVE, WE CAN'T LOCATE
THEM, THE ABILITY TO COLLECT IT,
OF COURSE, IS MINIMAL, TO
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GET THE FINE
IN HAND.
>> ALDERMAN REDPATH.
>> CORPORATION COUNSEL, IF IT IS
POSTED AND NOTICE IS GIVEN TO
TRESPASSERS, THEY COULD BE
CHARGED WITH CRIMINAL TRESPASS
TO LAND, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WELL, WHAT THIS CONTEMPLATES
IS WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THE
CITY CODE REGARDING FOR PROPERTY
VIOLATIONS INVOLVING TRESPASS
WHERE THEY CAN BE FINED.
IT WOULD NOT BE A CRIMINAL CAL
TRESPASS, IE, STATE LAW
PROVISION, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW
THE CITY TO BASICALLY FINE OR
DIRECT THE PERSONS TO LEAVE AND
OR FINE THEM.
UNDER THE PROVISION OF THE CITY
CODE, NOT THE STATE --
>> I THINK I AM REFERRING TO
THAT A LOT OF THESE BUILDINGS
ARE RANSACKED AND ROBBED AND
THAT KIND OF THING.
>> BURNED DOWN.
>> WHICH MAKES IT A CRIMINAL
OFFENSE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.
>> THERE COULD BE INSTANCES
WHERE THERE WOULD BE EVIDENCE OF
CRIMINAL CONDUCT WHICH POLICE
WOULD FILE A POLICE REPORT AND
IT WOULD GO TO THE STATE'S
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
>> IS THERE ANYWAY.
>> I AM SORRY.
>> GO AHEAD, FINISH.
>> ALDERWOMAN TURNER THEN
DiCENSO.
>> SO IS THERE ANYWAY THAT, UM,
ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN BE
ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE
INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING COULD BE,
COULD HAPPEN, MIGHT HAPPEN, IS
THERE ANYWAY THOSE THINGS COULD
BE ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE?
BECAUSE I THINK THAT -- I THINK
THAT THE ORDINANCE IS A GOOD --
IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY
THING IT IS SAYING IS THAT
PUBLIC WORKS CAN PUT A NO
TRESPASSING SIGN ON A BUILDING
AND THAT'S IT.
SO I JUST -- MAYBE I AM WRONG
AND NOBODY ELSE AGREES WITH YOU.
BUT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF EASE --
IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE
ORDINANCE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO
HAVE IT -- HAVE SOME TEETH.
>> WELL, IN WHAT IS NOT IN THE
ORDINANCE WHICH WHAT YOU ARE NOT
SEEING IS THE REST OF THE CITY
CODE.
BECAUSE THESE PROVISIONS ARE
INTERRELATED WITH CERTAIN OF THE
BOTH HOUSING AND BUILDING CODES
AND SO ON, AND AT THE END OF ALL
OF THOSE CHAPTERS, THERE ARE
SPECIFIC FINES RELATED TO
VIOLATION OF THE CHAPTERS.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO GET THAT FOR
YOU.
>> I WILL LET IT GO.
>> THANK YOU.
I LOVE SIGNS.
SIGNS ARE GREAT.
BUT IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A
LANDLORD REGISTRATION ON THE
BOOKS IN THIS CITY WHICH WE ARE
OBVIOUSLY MIXED ON, THEN WE, AS
A COUNCIL, HAVE GOT TO GET
SERIOUS ABOUT TIGHTENING UP
THESE ORDINANCES.
IT TAKES FAR TOO LONG FOR TRASH
TO BE PICKED UP, FOR BUILDINGS
TO BE BULLDOZED, FOR THESE
ABSENTEE LANDLORDS TO GET AWAY
WITH HOUSES BEING BURNED DOWN,
PEOPLE BEING MURDERED AT, TWO
THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN WARD 6,
VACANT PROPERTIES LAST YEAR.
I AM DONE WITH IT.
WE HAVE GOT TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT
THIS.
ALL TEN OF US BECAUSE IT CAN'T
CONTINUE TO GO ON.
TAKE A DRIVE DOWN, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE A LIST OF PROBLEM
PROPERTIES.
I HAD A GUY CALLING ME -- WHO
CALLS ME, I WAS TALKING ABOUT
THIS EARLIER, CALLS ME EVERY DAY
WITH PICTURES OF HIS NEIGHBORS.
PUBLIC WORKS GOES OUT AND CITES
HIM.
NEXT DAY HE HAS MORE STUFF IN
HIS YARD.
PUBLIC WORKS COMES OUT AND PICKS
UP ALL THE STUFF OUT IN HIS YARD
AND HE STARTS PUTTING OUT MORE
JUNK.
THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THESE
ORDINANCES.
WE HAVE GOT TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT
THIS.
BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF TAKING THE
CALLS.
I AM TIRED OF GETTING THESE
E-MAILS.
THIS IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED
TO WORK.
WE EITHER NEED MORE CITY
INSPECTORS, NEED MORE BUILDING
INSPECTORS OR NEED ORDINANCES
WITH MORE TEETH IN THEM.
WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT
WORKING.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE.
I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT WE
HAVE AN ORDINANCE HERE THAT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO BE SOMETHING
THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THAT.
AND WE NEED TO ADD MORE TEETH TO
IT WHILE WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER.
>> THANK YOU.
YEAH, IT IS -- I WILL SAY THIS,
IT IS NOT JUST THE RENTAL
PROPERTIES EITHER.
IT IS PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR
HOUSES AND -- I MEAN WE HAVE ALL
HAD HOARDERS AND WHATNOT, YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HAVE ABANDONED
THEIR PROPERTY WHICH IS AMAZING
TO ME, BUT PEOPLE ABANDON THEIR
HOUSES AND THEY GO TO FLORIDA
AND LET IT GO.
AND I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO
LOOK AT A MORE OF A PROGRESSIVE
DISCIPLINE ON THESE FINES AND,
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY CAN -- WHEN
THEY CAN -- WHEN THEY GET
TARGETED -- OR GET CITED.
BY THE TIME THEY GO TO COURT,
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PROVE
THAT THEY FIXED THE PROBLEM AND
WE DON'T FINE THEM.
AS SOON AS THEY GET CITED, THEY
SHOULD GET A MINIMUM OF 25,
50-DOLLAR FINE, JUST FOR OUR
STAFF TIME.
THEN THE NEXT TIME, IF IT IS
SAME PROPERTY, IT SHOULD BE A
HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THEN THE NEXT TIME, HIT THEM
WITH A THOUSAND.
THAT'S MINIMUM.
BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO
DO THAT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
STOP DOING IT.
THEY WILL RUN TO ADMIN COURT
"SEE, I GOT IT DONE."
THEY WILL DO KIND OF A SHODDY
JOB JUST TO GET THROUGH THE
COURT.
BUT WE HAVE GOT TO COME UP WITH
A PROGRESSIVE TYPE DISCIPLINE ON
THIS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK HAPPENS.
YOU START, YOU KNOW, YOU START
DOING THAT, AND I THINK YOU ARE
GOING -- YOU WILL TRY TO -- YOU
WILL GET -- I THINK YOU WILL GET
A LOT OF IT CLEANED UP, BUT I
COULD BE JUST WISHING.
>> ALDERMAN, I AGREE.
THERE IS A PROVEN I HAVE A
PROPERTY IN TIMBER LANE RIGHT
NOW, IF IT WASN'T FOR PUBLIC
WORKS AND ZONING, I HAD TO CALL
MAT MA GLOVE LYNN TODAY, IT IS
CONSTANT, OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN.
I KNOW DARRYL HARRIS HAS BEEN
OUT TO A PLACE ON THE LAKE, AND
SEVERAL TIMES, AND I THINK
THAT'S LEGAL SIDE NOW FOR
LOOKING AT TRYING TO TAKE THEIR
LEASE AWAY.
BOTTOM LINE, WE HAVE TO HAVE
PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE,
ABSOLUTELY.
WE CAN'T KEEP FINING THEM 25
BUCKS.
IT HAS TO GO UP EVERY TIME, IT
HAS TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OR TEN
TIMES IT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T
CARE.
LAN LORDS ARE THE ONES SHOULD BE
ULTIMATE ONE THAT GETS NAILED.
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE TENANT AS
LONG AS YOU CAN, BUT EVENTUALLY,
WE GOT --
>> CAN'T NAIL THE LANDLORDS IF
YOU CAN'T FIND THEM.
>> I AM WITH YOU.
WE NEED TO REFINE THAT.
>> ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO
ADD, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND
OF A REGULATION ON THE SIGN.
I KNOW THAT'S MINIMAL THOUGHT,
BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES ALONG WITH
LITTLE BITTY SIGN THAT SAYS "NO
TRESPASSING," SOMEBODY OVERLOOKS
IT, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING
THAT IS SUBSTANTIAL.
>> MR. CHAIR?
>> GO AHEAD.
ALDERMAN MCMENAMIN.
>> TWO REPRESENTATIVE FROM INNER
SATE NEIGHBORHOODS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE LANDLORD REGISTRATION
ORDINANCE IN DRAFT, AND I THINK
YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FIVE
COSPONSORS, AND I KNOW SOME OF
US INCLUDING MYSELF, HAS SAID A
YES TO THAT.
WE NEED TO GET FIVE ON BOARD,
AND THEN WITH THE MAYOR'S HELP
WE CAN GET THAT THROUGH THE
COUNCIL.
AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT, I'D LIKE
TO COMPLIMENT ALDERMAN GREGORY.
THIS IS A GOOD ORDINANCE AS FAR
AS IT GOES.
IT IS STEP FORWARD.
AND IT DOES SAY, YOU KNOW, OWNER
SHALL POST NO TRESPASS.
AS OUR SOCIETY ATTORNEY POINTED
OUT, WHEN YOU FAIL TO COMPLY
WITH A SHELL STATEMENT IN OUR
CODE, THERE IS OTHER CODE
PROVISIONS THAT PROVIDES FOR A
FINE.
AS FAR AS OVERALL ENFORCEMENT,
THIS COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE
THAT ALDERMAN PROCTOR PUT OUT,
THREE STRIKES AS YOU ARE OUT,
GENERALLY SPEAKING WHEN THERE IS
A VIOLATION OUT THERE, IF YOU
CURE THE VIOLATION, THERE IS NO
FINE OR PENALTY, BUT WE PASSED
AN ORDINANCE I GUESS ROUGHLY
THREE YEARS AGO IF YOU GET CITED
THREE TIMES, SAME LANDLORD THREE
TIMES, WHETHER SAME OFFENSE OR
DIFFERENT OFFENSES ON THREE
DIFFERENT DATES, THERE WILL BE A
FINE.
YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF IT THE
THIRD TIME IF IT IS OVER A TWO
YEAR PERIOD I BELIEVE IS THE
TIME SPAN, WALLED PROCTOR.
THAT GIVES OUR PUBLIC WORKS
HOUSING DIVISION MANAGER SOME
TEETH.
WE DO NEED SYSTEMS TO COUNT
THOSE THROUGH TIMES AND GET THE
INFORMATION OUT THERE SO WE
DON'T MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
FINE A LANDLORD ON RECURRING
BASIS FAILING TO MEET OUR
HOUSING CODE.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYONE
IS SAYING TONIGHT MANY WE HAVE
TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THE BALL AND
MAKE SURE WE MAKE PROGRESS.
>> ALDERMAN DONELAN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ALDERMAN MCMENAMIN, CAN I ASK A
QUESTION, YOU HAD REFERRED TO AN
EFFORT TO HAVE LANDLORD
REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING
TALKED ABOUT BY ALDERMAN?
>> THIS IS SOMETHING ICON --
THEY ARE GOING TO INDIVIDUAL
ALDERMAN AT A TIME A ASKING THEM
TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE
TO SEE IF IT IS ACCEPTABLE.
>> MUST BE DOING IT IN NUMERICAL
ORDER THEN.
THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU FEEL SLIGHTED?
>> I CAN'T SAY I FEEL SLIGHTED.
MY POINT I HAVEN'T BEEN
CONTACTED.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT
DISCUSSION.
>> I AM SURE YOU ARE ON THEIR
LIST.
I AM SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE
LIST.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>> OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
>> ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS?
ALDERMAN DONELAN.
>> MR. IR CHARGE JUST TWO QUICK
THINGS.
ONE IF I -- I'D LIKE TO REQUEST
TO BE ADDED AS CO-SPONSOR FOR
AGENDA ITEMS 2019-485 AND 486,
PERTAIN TO CHURCH HILL ROAD, THE
BRIDGE.
THEN THE SECOND THING I WANTED
TO KNOW THE STATUS -- WE TALKED
ABOUT THIS SOME MONTHS AGO, THE
STATUS OF DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE
RELATED TO INSTANCES WHERE THERE
ARE SHIPPING CRATES THAT ARE PUT
ON -- ON PROPERTIES AND IN
PARTICULAR LIKE THE BACKYARD,
FRONT YARD.
I WONDERED IF THAT IS STILL ON
THE AGENDA.
I'D LIKE IT TO BE.
>> YES, SIR.
>> I WILL SPEAK WITH YOU
AFTERWARDS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER.
>> I GUESS THIS IS OLD BUSINESS
SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY SET THE
CALENDAR.
BUT IN DECEMBER, WE HAVE A
COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR
THE 31ST ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
I DON'T CARE BECAUSE I DON'T GO
OUT FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE TOO
OFTEN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE
NICE TO MOVE IT BACK TO THE 30TH
MAYBE ON A MONDAY.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE OR IS THERE
ANY DISCUSSION EITHER WAY?
>> RALPH, THERE IS ANOTHER IDEA
OUT THERE SIMILAR TO YOURS, MOVE
IT BACK TO THE 19TH WHICH WOULD
BE -- I THINK WE DID THAT LAST
HOLIDAY SEASON WHICH GAVE US TWO
WEEKS OF NO MEETINGS.
SO IF WE MOVE THE 31ST
COMMITTING MEETING TO THURSDAY,
THE 19TH, WE WOULD THEN HAVE THE
WEEK OF CHRISTMAS AND WEEK OF
NEW YEAR'S WITH NO MEETINGS.
WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR LAST
YEAR.
WE HAD A CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON
TUESDAY FOR PASSAGE, AND TWO
DAYS LATER WE HAD COMMITTEE
MEETING.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD
ALSO CONSIDER.
>> TO THAT NOTE, IS IT DOABLE
FOR THE CLERK AS OFFICE, MEETING
THE 48 HOUR RULE?
OKAY.
>> WE ALSO HAVE TWO MEETINGS
BEFORE, THE TENTH AND 11TH.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN I AM SUPPOSED
TO DO MY HOLIDAY SHOPPING.
>> WHAT ARE YOU BUYING ME?
>> NOTHING.
>> WHAT ABOUT ME?
>> NOTHING.
>> COAL!
>> HE DOESN'T DESERVE AN ALLEY.
DOESN'T APPRECIATE THEM.
>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CHANGE
IT?
>> I AM JUST THROWING IT OUT FOR
DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, JOHN.
I DON'T CARE.
I MEAN I AM GOOD WITH THE POETH,
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE
TRAVELING.
>> I AM TRAVELING THAT WEEKEND.
>> 19TH.
>> I CAN'T MAKE 19TH.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION
SUGGESTIONS?
>> WAIT A WEEK TO CONSIDER THIS?
HOLD IT?
>> YEAH.
>> WE WILL DISCUSS IT NEXT WEEK
THEN.
>>
ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS --
>> NEW BUSINESS?
>> NEW BUSINESS.
>> ALDERWOMAN DiCENSO.
>> DIRECTOR BOTTOM, MY FAVORITE
PHRASE IS CONSTRUCTION IS THE
PRICE OF PROGRESS.
BUT IN THE CASE OF WALNUT
STREET, IT IS THE PRICE OF TRASH
BUILDING UP AND LEAVES THAT HAVE
GONE UNCOLLECTED, AND MY PHONE
RINGING OFF THE HOOK.
>> I KNOW WE ADDRESSED THREE OF
THEM TODAY.
SO THEY CAN REACH OUT TO OUR
OFFICE, AND WE WILL COORDINATE
WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES OR WASTE
MANAGEMENT OR LAKE AREA.
>> WE APPRECIATE IT.
ITS A HUGE PROJECT I UNDERSTAND
AND I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE
COMPLETED.
IT IS JUST BEEN A REAL STRUGGLE
ESPECIALLY FOR THAT BLOCK THIS
TIME OF YEAR.
>> SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
ATTENTION THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR?
>> JUST REMINDER, AS THE CITY IS
CLOSED ON FRIDAY.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY PARK ON THE
STREETS FOR FREE.
>> WHAT ABOUT THURSDAY?
>> THURSDAY?
>> THURSDAY, WE ARE CLOSED!
(LAUGHING).
>> AND YOU CAN PARK ON THE
STREET FOR FREE.
>> THAT'S TRUE!
(LAUGHING).
>> AND FRIDAY IS 5:00 FRIDAY,
HOLIDAY LIGHTING FESTIVAL AT THE
GABLES OUT WEST, AND THEN
SATURDAY, BEGINS HOLIDAY WALKS
DOWNTOWN DURING THE DAY WITH
TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AT OLD
STATE CAPITAL PLAZA AT 5:30.
>> ALDERMAN REDPATH.
>> I HAVE TWO THINGS.
CORPORATION COUNSEL, ALDERMAN
PROCTOR BROUGHT A PROPOSAL TO
YOU FOR RECONSIDERATION VOTE ON
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR SOUTH SIXTH
STREET.
CAN YOU TELL US IF AND WHEN WE
CAN DO THAT.
>> I SENT OUT SOME INFORMATION
TO ALDERMAN PROCTOR ABOUT THAT.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO A
RECONSIDERATION.
THAT CAME UP BEFORE IF YOU
RECALL ON THE DOLLAR GENERAL
ISSUE, AND SO I HAD INDICATED
THAT I WOULD TALK WITH HIM.
I THOUGHT HE SUGGESTED TALKING
WITH YOU TO TALK THROUGH WHAT
THE ALL THE POTENTIALS ARE.
>> WE ARE GETTING DIFFERENT
INFORMATION FROM THE MUNICIPAL
LEAGUE.
SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT
PRETTY SOON.
MY SECOND THING, THERE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE LIQUOR LICENSE ON
TONIGHT FOR -- COME ON UP, FOR
RESTAURANT ON TORONTO ROAD.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT MIGHT BE.
GO AHEAD AND TELL THEM WHERE.
>> I AM NOT SURE.
>> MY NAME IS GONZALEZ, THIS IS
MY MOTHER, THE OWNER FOR THE
RESTAURANT.
AND IT IS ELDORADO.
WE WERE TOLD TO COME IN TODAY IN
CASE IT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE
ON THE AGENDA IN CASE ANYONE HAD
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I THOUGHT ON THE PRELIMINARY
AGENDA.
>> ON FIRST READING LAST WEEK.
>> WILL THAT BE --
>> I WILL JUST NEED TO CHECK ON
IT. I DON'T RECALL IF IT WAS ON
THE FIRST READING, LAST WEEK.
IF THIS IS A COMMITTEE MEETING,
IF IT IS, WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT
THE COUNCIL MEETING.
>> THEY CAME UP HERE.
THEY WEREN'T SURE.
THAT'S WHY THEY ARE HERE.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET
THAT.
>> WHICH IS WHEN IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN VOTED ON ANYWAY.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> I WILL KEEP AN EYE ON IT FOR
YOU.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>>
>> ALDERMAN CONLEY.
>> I HAVE TWO THINGS, MAYOR IF I
CAN CHECK ONTO YOURS, SATURDAY
IS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY,
SHOPPING SMALL BUSINESS.
I HAVE FABULOUS BUSINESSES IN
WARD 8, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU COME
OUT WEST ON MONROE, BUT ALSO
DOWNTOWN FOR HOLIDAY WALKS.
VERY EXCITING TIME.
AND ALSO IF I COULD, CHIEF I'D
LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOUR RECENT
FIRE PROMOTIONS, FIREFIGHTER
PROMOTION.
I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO
THAT, PLEASE PASS ON OUR HEARTY
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE WHO
RECEIVED PROMOTIONS THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT,
SORRY.
>> SORRY, CHUCK.
>> UTILITIES COMMITTING MEETING
HELD DECEMBER 11, 5:30 P.M.
FOR YOUR ALL INFORMATION FOR
PRESS AND PUBLIC.
THANK YOU.
>> IS THAT THE END OF NEW
BUSINESS?
NOBODY ELSE?
>> CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE
COMMITTEE?
>> MARY FRANCIS
>> MARY FRANCIS, 101 WEST
CANEDY.
MAYOR LANGFELDER, AT THE
NOVEMBER 5 COUNCIL MEETING, YOU
STATED THE FOLLOWING.
I AM QUOTINGS "NATE BOTTOM, WE
WILL HAVE HIM GO OUT UPCOMING
WEEK OR THIS WEEK TO SEE HOW
THEY CAN SECURE THE AREA AND
TAKE WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO DO
THAT.
THEN THAT WILL GIVE US THE
BEARING WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR
NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
HE CAN CALCULATE WHAT ALL HAS
BEEN SPENT UP TO THIS POINT AND
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SECURE
IT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO THE
WINTER HAVING UNSECURED WAITING
FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR."
THAT WILL GIVE US A BEARING HOW
MUCH WILL BE NEEDED.
AGAIN, I THINK EVERYBODY POINTED
IT OUT, WE NEED TO GET TO
REMEDIATION, ESPECIALLY THE
BUILDING THAT BURNT, AND BRING
IT DOWN AND START CHIPPING AWAY
AT IT, AND HOW CAN WE BEST DO
THAT.
WE NEED TO RELY ON FEDERAL AND
STATE RESOURCES WHENEVER
POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN."
DID NATE BOTTOM INSPECT IT.
THIS IS THE PILLSBURY MILLS
PLANT.
DID NATE BOTTOM CALCULATE WHAT
HAS BEEN SPENT SO FAR.
DID NATE BOTTOM HAVE A PLAN.
HAVE THEY TALKED ABOUT FEDERAL
AND STATE AGENCIES.
IF THE CITY ACQUIRES THE
PROPERTY, WILL THE LIENS BE
FORGIVEN.
I AM PART OF MOVING THE PLANT
FORWARD, I WANT ANSWERS AND
ACTION FROM THE CITY.
I KNOW ENOUGH NOW TO TELL YOU
THAT STATE, FEDERAL AND PRIVATE
STAKEHOLDERS WILL NOT GET
INVOLVED IN HELPING US UNLESS
THE CITY TAKES RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST
SECURING IT.
I AM TALKING ABOUT ACQUIRING IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR WEB SITE, YOU
WILL SEE SUPPORT FOR MANY
ORGANIZATIONS.
WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE OVER 50
RESIDENTS ATTENDED.
THERE WAS ALSO SUPPORT FROM
CONCERNED CITIZENS AROUND THE
CITY AS WELL AS FEDERAL AND
STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I HAVE GATHERED STATISTICAL, AND
AC HE CAN DO TALE DATA.
THIS IS MORE THAN A BUDGET
ISSUE.
THIS A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE NOT
ONLY FOR SPRINGFIELD, BUT
BEYOND.
MAYOR LANGFELDER, WE DID A
SURVEY AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
IT WAS ALMOST A TIE BETWEEN
PUTTING A GROCERY STORE OR GREEN
SPACE THERE.
THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, AND
YOU ARE ELECTED TO SERVE ALL THE
PEOPLE OF SPRINGFIELD.
YOUR NPE'S, POLICE OFFICERS,
POLICE CHIEF, FIREMEN, FIRE
CHIEF, HIRED STAFF, AND ELECTED
CITY OFFICIALS WHO IGNORE THIS
ISSUE REFLECT POORLY ON YOU AS A
LEADER.
IT STATES ON U.S. E.P.A. WEB
SITE, THIS IS DIRECT QUOTE
"ILLINOIS E.P.A. AND THE CITY OF
SPRINGFIELD CONTINUE TO MONITOR
THE SITE FOR IMPROPER ACTIVITIES
AND TRYING TO COMPEL THE OWNER
TO PROVIDE BETTER SECURITY."
THE ILLINOIS E.P.A. AND CITY ARE
NOT MONITORING THE SITE, AND
OWNER IS DOING NOTHING.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE
CONTROL AND MAKE IN A WIN-WIN
FOR YOURSELF AND THE WHOLE CITY.
I AM ASKING YOU TO DO SIX
THINGS.
THE FIRST ONE IS CREATE A
PILLSBURY ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT
MEETS MONTHLY AND POSTS AGENDAS
AND MINUTES ON THE CITY WEB
SITE.
TWO IS TO PUT PILLSBURY ON THE
NEXT AGENDA FOR URBAN FORESTRY
COMMISSION AND MAKE IT A TOP
PRIORITY FOR BEAUTIFICATION
THROUGH SPRINGFIELD GREEN.
THREE IS TO ASK THE POLICE CHIEF
TO REQUIRE NPO WEEKLY SURVEYS OF
THE PILLSBURY PROPERTY WITH
RESULTS GIVEN TO THE PROPER
AUTHORITIES.
FOUR IS TO PUT $20,000 IN NEXT
BUDGET TO SECURE THE PROPERTY.
FIVE IS JOIN US FOR PERIMETER
PROPERTY WALK AT PILLSBURY
PLANT.
IT IS ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 7,
FROM 12 TO ONE AND WE ARE
MEETING AT THE MAIN GATE ON THE
CORNER OF 15TH AND EAST
PHILLIPS.
AND, FINALLY, I AM ASKING YOU TO
GO TO OUR SUPPORTERS PAGE OF OUR
WEB SITE AND SIGN UP A GIVE US
SUPPORT SO WE CAN LIST YOUR NAME
ON THE WEB SITE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NATE CAN TALK ABOUT THE
PROGRESSION OF THE OTHERS.
BUT I WILL ANSWER THE ONES I
CAN.
WITH REGARDS TO THE POLICE
CHIEF, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRE
CHIEF OR FIRE REPRESENTATIVES
WENT OUT TO THE SIDE WITH PUBLIC
WORKS, AND I AM NOT SURE WHO
ELSE WENT OUT THERE.
I THINK IT IS ABOUT THAT POINT
AND TIME YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WITH REGARDS TO THE BREACHES, I
THINK THERE IS EIGHT OF THEM.
THAT INFORMATION WAS SENT TO THE
ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE AND SO THOUGH WE ARE
TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT TO DO
FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT WITH
REGARDS TO PATCHING THOSE OR
WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH REGARDS TO
THAT.
OTHER ITEM WAS THE PERIMETER
FENCING, NATE IS PUTTING IT OUT
FOR A BID, AND WHETHER WE CAN,
YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE
IF WE CAN, PUT AROUND THE
PERIMETER AND JUST WHERE THE
BUILDINGS ARE, NOT NECESSARILY
THE SILOS, BUT, AGAIN, THAT
COMES DOWN TO WHAT WE ARE ABLE
TO DO AND, OF COURSE, THE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
REALLY THE END GAME IS DECLARING
THIS SITE ASSUME FUND SITE WHICH
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THE REASON FOR THAT, YOU CAN GO
BACK ON THE PREVIOUS OWNERS
POSSIBLY.
I THINK THE U.S. E.P.A. IS I
THINK IT WAS OCTOBER 30, NEAR
THE END OF OCTOBER, THEY HAD
SAID THEY ARE LOOKING AT
POTENTIAL OTHER SUPER FUND SITES
TO LIST.
I DID SEND A REQUEST IN TO THEM
TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEY
ARE SETTING UP A CONFERENCE CALL
WITH REGARDS TO THOSE
DISCUSSIONS.
SO, REALLY, I THINK WE ARE ALSO
LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT IT WOULD
TAKE TO DEMO.
I JUST WENT ON LINE TO LOOK AT
WHAT THE ESTIMATE WOULD BE.
I THINK IT IS 750,000 SQUARE
FEET.
THAT PUTS IT PROBABLY NORTH OF
TEN MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE OF IT.
BECAUSE JUST LIKE ANYTHING,
RIGHT NOW IT IS IN PLAY IF WE
WANT TO TAKE THAT ON AS A
COUNCIL, YOU ARE TAKING ON THE
ENTIRE LIABILITY OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE FEDERAL
DOLLARS COME IN AND REALLY HAVE
TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH REGARDS TO
THAT, BUT WE WILL HAVE DOLLARS
ASSOCIATED WITHIN THE BUDGET ON
WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SECURING THE
SITE.
I DON'T KNOW IF NATE BOTTOM
WANTS TO COME UP OR CORPORATION
COUNSEL IF YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING.
>> VERY BRIEFLY, THE OFFICERS
MONITOR IT DAILY.
IN FACT, THE CITY IS WORKING
ACTUALLY WITH THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE AS RECENTLY AS
ACTUALLY TODAY WITH THE OFFICER
PARTICIPATING IN SIGNING
AFFIDAVITS THAT HAVE TO GO BACK
TO COURT.
SO THERE IS A REGULAR PROCESS IN
PLACE, AND THAT WILL BECOME
BETTER OVER TIME.
BUT I KNOW THAT THE NPO'S
INVOLVED OR OFFICERS INVOLVED I
BELIEVE ARE DOING DAILY REVIEWS.
THAT INFORMATION IS BEING
SUBMITTED TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE WHO CURRENTLY
HAS THE CASES PENDING REGARDING
THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
>> SO THE OTHER THING, COMMUNITY
INVOLVEMENT ESPECIALLY WITH
SUPER FUND SATE SITE, THAT'S A
PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
THAT WOULD BE WELCOME WITH
REGARDS TO THAT.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER.
>> THANK YOU.
I AGREE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE
DONE WITH IT.
BUT I CANNOT -- I THINK IT WOULD
BE VERY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF
US UP ON THIS HORSESHOE TO
PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE
IT IS -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE
ARE GETTING INTO, AND IT COULD
BE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
IN CLEAN UP FEES THAT WE DON'T
KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE
COAL TAR SITUATION WHEN WE
BOUGHT A PIECE OF LAND, AND WE
GOT STUCK WITH THE CLEAN UP THAT
WAS VERY EXPENSIVE.
WE COULD HAVE THE SAME SITUATION
HERE.
THE COST TO DEMO, THAT PUTS ALL
THE COST ON US.
I AM SORRY, BUT I CANNOT -- I
CANNOT -- I JUST THINK IT IS
VERY IRRESPONSIBLE IF WE EVEN
THINK ABOUT TAKING OVER OR
PURCHASING THAT PROPERTY IT
REALLY NEEDS TO GO BACK TO
PILLSBURY AND CARGILL.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT KIND OF
ABANDONED IT.
AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
SHOULD BE CLEANING IT UP.
BUT THE CITY OF SPRINGFIELD
SHOULD NOT BE BUYING THAT FOR
THE SIMPLE FACT WE WILL END UP
WITH 50, A HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS POTENTIALLY.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE
HOW MUCH MORE ASBESTOS, WHEN YOU
START GETTING INTO THINGS.
THOSE SILOS ARE GOING TO BE --
THEY ARE NOT A REGULAR BUILDING
THAT YOU ARE GOING TO KNOCK
DOWN.
THOSE SILOS ARE MEANT TO TAKE
BLASTS.
SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
>> WHAT YOU DO WITH THOSE, YOU
MIGHT NEED TO LEAVE THEM IN
PLACE, WHO KNOWS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WORK
WITH THE U.S. E.P.A. ON,
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OTHERS.
BUT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU HAVE
ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO
THAT?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE BRIEFLY
BEEN ON SITE SEVERAL OCCASIONS
NOT JUST THE TIME YOU REQUESTED
IT, BUT IT IS DONE ON A WEEKLY
BASIS.
PICK UPS AND STUFF ON THAT SITE
HAS BEEN ONGOING AS WELL.
WE GET THINGS LIKE FLY DUMPING
THAT IS DONE A LOT OF TIME,
ALDERMAN TURNER WILL CALL ABOUT
THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS, BUT
ALSO INSPECTOR IS GOING OUT
THERE TO THE SITE TWO TO THREE
TIMES A WEEK TO MAKE SURE WE
KEEP THAT AREA CLEAN.
AS FAR AS THE INTERIOR OF THAT
SITE, E.P.A. HAS GIVEN STRICT
RESTRICTIONS OF ENFORCEMENT
ABOUT WHO CAN GO ON THAT SITE
AND NORMALLY IT IS A COMPANY,
E.P.A. OFFICIAL AS FAR AS PAST
THE GATE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A KEY TO OPEN
THE INTERIOR OF THE GATE ON THAT
SITE AS FAR AS AREAS I THINK THE
MAYOR ALREADY ADDRESSED IT, WE
HAVE LOOKED AT THE AREAS THAT
CAN BE BREACHED BUT ALSO YOU
HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE
RAILROAD ASSOCIATIONS TOO, AS
WELL BECAUSE A CERTAIN PORTION
IN THE BACK REAR OF THAT SITE IS
ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE RAILROAD.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL OWNERS SHIPS
YOU ARE DEALING WITH REGARDING
THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF
PROPERTY.
>> I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE
MAYOR.
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE
DEALT WITH ENFORCEMENT THROUGH
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
AND THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE
SUPER FUND.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE
CITY OF SPRINGFIELD CAN TAKE ON
LIKE ALDERMAN HANAUER SAID, I
THINK THE CITY COUNCIL IS ON
BOARD TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE
MONEY TO SECURE THAT AREA WITH
FENCING, AND I KNOW THE MAYOR
AND YOU GUYS ARE IN THE PROCESS
OF THAT.
BUT THERE IS NO WAY I WILL VOTE
FOR A PURCHASE OF PILLSBURY.
>> ALSO WORKING AT THE MAYOR'S
STATEMENT LOOKING AT DEMOLITION
COST OF THIS SITE, BUT WE ARE
HOVERING DEFINITELY OVER TEN
MILLION.
>> EASY.
>> ALDERMAN HANAUER, IT ALREADY
HAS BEEN -- LEGAL COUNSEL HAS
ALREADY STATED AT COUNCIL
MEETING THAT CARGILL AND
PILLSBURY ARE NO LONGER LEGALLY
LIABLE FOR THIS SITE.
SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GO BACK
TO THEM.
>> I WILL JUST SAY I WILL NOT BE
VOTING TO -- I WILL BE A NO VOTE
TO TAKE OVER.
>> THAT'S FINE.
HATE TO SEE THAT KIND OF
MISS INFORMATION CONTINUALLY
BEING PUT OUT THERE. IT IS
IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING.
>> WITH THE SUPER FUND, CAN'T
THEY GO BACK ON THEM, RIGHT?
>> JUST LET ME -- WHAT I HAD
INDICATED LAST TIME WAS THAT THE
BOTH ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
AND ILLINOIS E.P.A. INDICATED TO
ME THAT AND I HAD A VERY LENGTHY
CALL WITH THEM PROBABLY IT HAS
BEEN AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR,
PROBABLY THREE WEEKS, FOUR WEEKS
AGO, AND THE ISSUE CAME UP ABOUT
THE STATUS OF THE LITIGATION,
ALSO THEIR REVIEW OF THE
APPLICABLE LAW TO TRY TO GO
BACK.
THEIR POSITION AT THAT TIME WAS
THEY HAD LOOKED AT IT VERY
CAREFULLY.
THEY DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A
CASE TO DO THAT AND WE ARE
ASKING THE U.S. E.P.A. TO
BASICALLY READDRESS THAT.
WE HAVE TALKED TO THEIR REGIONAL
COUNSEL IN CHICAGO WHO IS
ARRANGING FOR THE MAYOR TO TALK
TO SOME OF THE HIGHER PERSONS
INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE
SPECIFIC PROGRAMS.
SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL
CONTINUE THAT VIEW, I AM NOT
SURE.
I DO, JUST BY WAY OF A LIABILITY
COMMENT, I DO THINK THAT
ALDERMAN HANAUER, ALDERMAN
REDPATH, MAYOR, EXACTLY CORRECT
THE CITY WOULD WANT TO EXERCISE
EXTREME CAUTION TO ACQUIRE THE
PROPERTY IF IT WERE ALLOWED TO
BE JUST EVEN DECATURRED WHICH I
THINK THEY WOULD DONATE IT IN
PRETTY QUICK SECOND TO GET IT
OFF THEIR BOOKS.
WHAT THAT WOULD END UP DOING IS
PUTTING POTENTIALLY THE CITY AS
A LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR
THE CLEAN UP.
THAT WOULD BE THE MOST
INAPPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
BEST COURSE OF ACTION NOW FOR
THE CITY AND OTHERS TO WORK WITH
U.S. E.P.A. TO IDENTIFY FUNDS
THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE.
BOTH THE STATE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE AND ILLINOIS
E.P.A. HAVE INDICATED THEY HAVE
NO MONEY.
THEY ALSO HAD INDICATED THEY
EXPECT U.S. E.P.A. TO EVENTUALLY
IDENTIFY FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING
WITH THE PROPERTY.
>> DO YOU KNOW IF THE LIENS WILL
BE AVAILABLE IF THE CITY
PURCHASED IT?
TWO MILLION.
>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
LEANS FROM U.S. E.P.A.?
>> UH-HUH.
>> I SUSPECT U.S. E.P.A. WOULD
BE HAPPY TO FORGIVE THOSE IF
THEY GOT A RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO
TAKE ON THE REST OF THE COST.
>> I JUST WANT --
>> IT WOULD BE A GOOD BUSINESS
DEAL BECAUSE THE COST WOULD BE
FAR IN EXCESS OF THE TWO MILLION
OF THE LEINS THEY PUT ON THERE.
U.S. E.P.A. DOES NOT EXPECT TO
RECOVER THOSE FUNDS.
>> I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING
ABOUT MONITORING, I AM HAPPY
HOUSING AND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ARE MONITORING IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENTED,
ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PAPER TRAIL,
IT HAS TO GO UP THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE, WHENEVER YOU
SEE A BREACH.
AND ACCORDING TO THE RESEARCH I
HAVE DONE, THIS HAS NOT BEEN
DOCUMENTED.
>> WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT
AND MAKE SURE IT GETS --
>> THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.
ANY FURTHER -- DO WE HAVE
EXECUTIVE SESSION?
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS TO
ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE?
>>
CAROL NEED LER, 2016 SOUTH
FOURTH STREET THIS SPRINGFIELD.
I WANT TO THANK ALDERWOMAN
DiCENSO TO BRING UP THE
PROBLEM PROPERTY ISSUE.
I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
CERTAINLY ICON HAS BEEN WORKING
ON PROPERTY REN STRATION.
WE KIND OF STARTED THERE,
BECAUSE WE FEEL LANDLORDS HAVE
THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENT WITH THE PROPERTY
UNLIKE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A
PROPERTY.
WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE
HOMELESS.
WE ARE SENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WHO
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
WE HAVE SUGGESTED TO THE MAYOR
AND HE HAS SUGGESTED BACK TO US
SOME PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THOSE
ISSUES.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT
TO AGREE WITH ALDERMAN HANAUER
THAT ICON ALSO HAS A MORE
EXPENSIVE PROGRAM BEYOND JUST
PROPERTY REGISTRATION THAT
INVOLVES HOLDING PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE, HIGHER FINES,
STRICTER ORDINANCES, YOU KNOW,
RENTAL REGISTRATION IS NOT THE
ANSWER.
WE NEED A BUDGET THAT ALLOWS FOR
MORE INSPECTORS.
WE NEED A BUDGET THAT ALLOWS FOR
MORE ATTORNEYS TO PROSECUTE
THOSE CASES AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE
FINED WHEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE UP
CITY RESOURCES.
THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR
THAT.
ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE
UP CITY RESOURCES OVER AND OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.
YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
AND WE HAVE NOT MANAGED TO GIVE
TO EVERYONE.
WE ARE HAPPY TO TALK TO
EVERYONE.
THAT INCLUDES YOU, ALDERMAN
DONELAN.
WE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO SLIGHT
INTENDED.
WE ARE WORKING ON THIS
ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING
BOARD SEVERAL TIMES BASED ON
INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE WE HAVE
TALKED TO SO FAR, AND YOU KNOW,
WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE
CONSIDERING WAYS TO MAKE IT
BETTER AND OTHER IDEAS FOR
ADDRESSING PROBLEM PROPERTIES IN
SPRINGFIELD.
WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET THAT
FIXED.
WE ARE OPEN TO ANY IDEAS THAT
YOU MAY HAVE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
TALKING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
ALICE.
>> I AM ALICE RAMEY, I AM
DISPLACED HOMEOWNER RIGHT NOW.
OKAY.
(LAUGHING) I THOUGHT I WOULD
JUST THROW THAT OUT.
ALL RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT ABANDONED
HOUSES.
WHEN I WAS ON THE SPRINGFIELD
BOARD AT ONE TIME WHEN THE LATE
MAYOR, OKAY, WE HAD MADE AN
ORDINANCE THAT IF THEY DID
NOT -- EVEN IF THEY CLEANED UP
THEIR PROPERTY, AND COME IN
FRONT OF THE PERSON HERE, THEY
GOT FINED ANYWAY.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING MORE
CONSTRUCTIVE.
I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSES
IN -- ON LIVINGSTON THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED, AND I HAVE NOT
CALLED YOU YET.
I AM SORRY.
BUT I HAVE BEEN BUSY WITH
ATTORNEYS AND INSURANCE PEOPLE,
AND INSPECTORS.
BUT I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE
GOT IT TOGETHER AND MAKE THEM
ACCOUNTABLE.
AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE
THERE AND RENT HAS A HARD TIME
EVEN MOWING THEIR GRASS.
SO YOU HAVE THAT $60 THAT YOU
HAVE TO PUT ON THEM FOR NOT
MOWING THE GRASS.
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, OKAY.
BUT WE NEED THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP.
I ALSO THINK IT IS TIME WE MAKE
THE FIRST ONE CORPORATE COUNSEL
$500 A FINE FOR THE FIRST TIME,
2,000 THE SEC TIME, AND 5,000
AND THEIR HOUSE GIVEN BACK TO
THE CITY, AND THEY PAY THEIR
LOAN.
THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
TO MAKE THEM BE ACCOUNTABLE.
THERE WAS A HOUSE ON 13TH AND
JACKSON ALL OF US AT THE
SPRINGFIELD PROJECT STOOD IN
FRONT OF WITH SIGNS.
OKAY.
BIG SIGNS.
NOT LITTLE SIGNS THAT YOU CAN'T
READ.
GREAT BIG ONES.
AND WE GOT OUR JOB DONE.
BUT IT TOOK TWO HOURS IN THE
RAIN, SOAKING WET TO DO IT.
WE NEED TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE
THIS IS SPRINGFIELD.
WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO
COME -- PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY"
WOW, WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO KEEP
THEIR HOUSES ALL DONE UP, AND
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO
MAKE THIS DONE?"
FOR THE OTHER THING, PILLSBURY.
I USED TO PLAY AT PILLS BEAR PI,
RUN UP AND DOWN THE ROPES AND
GET DOUGHNUTS.
OKAY.
AND MY MOTHER WORKED THERE.
MY FATHER WORKED THERE, AND
PRACTICALLY HALF MY FAMILY DID.
I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE LOOK
AT THE SITUATION.
DON'T BUY IT.
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT BUYING
IT.
OKAY.
MAKE THE SILOS SOMETHING ELSE.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IS GOING
TO BE A MESS.
IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN
TEN MILLION DOLLARS TO BLOW IT
UP, OKAY, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT
OF THINGS THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
THIS MAN TELLS ME THERE IS NOT
NOTHING WRONG WITH THE LAND.
WELL, I CAN ALMOST GRANT TO TELL
YOU YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE
25 FEET OF THAT LAND OFF BECAUSE
OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ON IT.
THE ASBESTOS SITTING OUT THERE
ON THE GROUND SOAKING IT UP,
OKAY.
PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO LIVE IN
THAT ENVIRONMENT.
NONE.
THOSE POOR KIDS THAT WALK UP AND
DOWN AND GO TO SCHOOL, THEY
BREATHE THAT STUFF.
THAT'S NOT PROPER FOR THEM
EITHER.
BESIDES, VAPING GOING ON
BESIDES.
BUT, MAYOR, DON'T BUY IT.
GET IT TO THE SUPER TO GET IT
DONE AND SEND IT BACK TO CARGILL
WHO NEEDS IT.
THEY NEED TO COMB UP AND CLEAN
IT UP HIMSELF FOR LEAVING IT THE
WAY IT WAS.
AND I WANT TO WISH ALL A HAPPY
THANKSGIVING, AND THERE IS
ANOTHER THING.
I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT --
(LAUGHING) ALL RIGHT, CHIEF.
CHIEF!
OKAY, BECAUSE THEY KEEP WATCH MY
HOUSE I GOT NO TRESPASSING SIGN.
I SIGNED A NO TRESPASSING LAW
WHERE SOMEBODY COMES ON MY LAND,
IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE,
THEY ARE GONE.
OKAY.
ABSOLUTELY GONE.
AND I WANT MY HOUSE.
I DON'T WANT IT TORE UP OR
BURNED DOWN AGAIN BECAUSE I
HAVEN'T GOT IT FIXED THE FIRST
TIME.
PROBABLY BE WORST SECOND TIME.
I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY
MUCH AND A BLESSED ONE AND HAPPY
ONE AND ALL YOUR BLESSINGS BE
ANSWERED IN THE WAY IT SHOULD
BE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ALICE.
>> THANKS, ALICE.
>>
>> I AM CHRIS RICHMOND, I AM
SURE MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR
WITH ME.
641 WEST WOODLAND AVENUE.
I AM COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER.
I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MOVING
PILLSBURY FORWARD IS ALL ABOUT.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION
DOZENS OF TIMES THE LAST TWO
MONTHS SINCE I STARTED WORKING
ON THIS PROJECT.
WHO ARE WE, WE ARE A GROUP OF
VOLUNTEERS FOCUSING ON THE
CHALLENGES ISSUED TO THE
PILLSBURY PROPERTY.
THIS GOES BACK 19 YEARS NOW WHEN
THE PLANT WAS MOTH BALLED IN
2001 BY CARGILL.
THERE IS LONG HISTORY.
I PROVIDED THAT FOR YOU.
SO YOU HAVE GOT THAT IN FRONT OF
YOU.
GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MAY HAVE.
I HAVE GOT A ROBUST
UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPERTY
AND THE HISTORY, MY FATHER
WORKED THERE FROM 1970 TO 1991.
I HAVE A PERSON STAKE IN THIS,
THAT'S THE JOB THAT PUT MY
BROTHER AND I THROUGH COLLEGE.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT
WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY
TO SOLVE THIS.
WHAT I HAVE DONE OVER THE PAST
COUPLE OF MONTHS IS BRING
TOGETHER A GRASS ROOTS EFFORT,
BOTTOM UP EFFORT OF MULTIPLE
ORGANIZATIONS.
I REACHED OUT TO SEVEN LOCAL
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE A STAKE IN THIS.
I HAVE TALKED TO ALL OF THEM.
LAST WEEK, WE HOSTED A PROGRAM
AT LANPHIER HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE
HAD MORE THAN 50 RESIDENTS FROM
WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF
PILLSBURY COME TO HEAR WHAT WE
HAD TO SAY AND TO DISCOURSE BACK
AND FORTHWITH US, QUESTION AND
ANSWER SESSION ABOUT SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT
THEREABOUT THIS.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF ITEMS TO
DISCUSS.
I BELIEVE THERE IS QUITE A BIT
OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT PERHAPS
SOME OF THE HORSESHOE HAVE HEARD
THAT MISINFORMATION AND BOUGHT
INTO IT.
WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT THE
VERY FIRST STEP THAT NEEDS TO
TAKE PLACE BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE
ALREADY DONE IN A GROUND UPSTART
WITH TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY IS
TO ALL GET TOGETHER.
THOSE OF YOU AROUND THE
HORSESHOE, REPRESENTATIVES FROM
THE CITY, OTHER COMMUNITY
GROUPS.
THIS IS A LARGE PROBLEM.
IT NEEDS ACTIVE PROBLEM SOLVING
BY MULTIPLE SEGMENTS OF OUR
COMMUNITY.
BUT HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW.
IT HAS BEEN A MULTI YEAR
PROBLEM.
19 YEAR PROBLEM.
IT HAS A COMMUNITY CARRYING COST
NOW.
THAT'S BEING DOCUMENTED IN
HEALTH EFFECTS.
AND AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPUTY
DIRECTOR HERE SAID AND AS WE
KNOW ABOUT OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE DOING DAILY
CHECKS ON THIS FOR THE UNKNOWN
FUTURE.
HOW MANY YEARS IS THAT GOING TO
GO ON?
WE DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO WORK
WITH THE U.S. E.P.A., AND
OTHERS, OUR PARTNERS UP THE
POLITICAL CHAIN, OUR STATE
REPRESENTATIVES, OUR
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION FOR
WHICH WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL
OF THEM, AT THIS POINT ALREADY.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALL CAME
TOGETHER IN ONE SPACE TO AIR IT
OUT, TO WORK TOGETHER, TOWARD
THIS LARGE COMMUNITY PROBLEM.
NOW IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED, AND I
HAVE A MINUTE AND A HALF LEFT,
THAT, YES, THE FIRST STEP IS
FIRST ALL COME TOGETHER WITH
GOOD INFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC
SPHERE.
I AM PROUD THAT IT STARTED AT
THE GRASS ROOTS LEVEL WITH
PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE BECAUSE
NOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
NOW WE JUST NEED TO GET BUSY
ABOUT GETTING IT DONE.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
THAT DOES LOOK LIKE US ALL
COMING TOGETHER WITH GOOD
INFORMATION, WORKING TOGETHER,
SETTING SOME SHORT TERM GOALS
AND LONG-TERM GOALS.
SHORT TERM GOAL, OBVIOUSLY
EVERYBODY AGREES THAT MAKING THE
PLACE RENDERING THE PLACE SAFE
IS FIRST BIG STEP.
NOW WE ARE SUGGESTING THROUGH
FAIRLY EXTENSIVE RESEARCH THE
NEXT LIKELY STEP IS TO DEVELOP A
REALLY GOOD PLAN FOR WHAT WE ARE
GOING TO DO WHEN WE, AS A
COMMUNITY TAKE POSSESSION OF
THAT, WHETHER THAT LOOKS LIKE
THE CITY OF SPRINGFIELD, OR
WHETHER THAT LOOKS LIKE
NON-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS PRIVATE
OWNERS ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE
CARE OF THAT.
SO THERE IS YOUR TWO CHOICES.
ONE CHOICE IS MUCH EASIER THAN
THE OTHER.
IT IS LIKE IT IS THE PUBLIC
CHOICE BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS YOU
TO VERY QUICKLY CUT THROUGH THE
TAX SITUATION, THE LEIN
SITUATIONS AND ALLOW FOR GRANT
FUNDING.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS
POINT.
I RECOMMEND EVERYBODY GO TO THE
WEB SITE.
GET THE GOOD INFORMATION THAT WE
HAVE GOT ON THIS, AND BEGIN
WORKING TOGETHER WITH US AND ALL
THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
CHRIS, HAS ANYBODY GOTTEN AN
ESTIMATE OR REALIZATION OF WHAT
IT WAS GOING TO COST TO CLEAN UP
THE PROJECT?
>> RIGHT.
WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH BROWN
FIELD SPECIALISTS, PROFESSIONAL
IN THIS, AS WELL AS CIVIL
ENGINEERS.
AND THE SHORT ANSWER IS
ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE ONE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE TWO NEEDS TO
BE CONDUCTED ON THAT PROPERTY
BEFORE YOU CAN GET A COST
ESTIMATE FOR THE DEMOLITION.
THAT SAID, 99 PLUS PERCENT OF
ALL OF THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL
CONTAMINATION ON THAT SITE WAS
CLEANED UP IN 2017.
I OVERSAW THAT LOCALLY.
I KNOW THAT.
IT IS LINCOLN THE PUBLIC RECORD
ON THE WEB SITE, AND IF YOU READ
THE DETAIL OF THAT WEB SITE, YOU
WILL KNOW THAT 220 TONS OF
MATERIAL WERE REMOVED AND THAT
WAS APPROXIMATELY 99% OF THE
PROBLEM.
KEEP IN MIND THIS WAS FOOD GRADE
FACILITY.
IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT THERE
IS EXTENSIVE GROUND
CONTAMINATION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE
HAVE DEALT WITH 40 YEARS AGO, 30
YEARS AGO WITH THE PARK SOUTH
FIAT ALLIS PROPERTY.
CLEAN UP IS NOT LIKELY AS MUCH
AS YOU MIGHT THINK.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT
UNTIL SOMEONE FUNDS A PHASE ONE
AND PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SO
THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
I WILL SAY THE DEMO ACTUALLY
BRINGING THE BUILDINGS DOWN INTO
A PILE OF RUBBLE IS QUITE LIKELY
TO COST LESS THAN TEN MILLION
DOLLARS.
IF YOU WERE TO CART OFF ALL THE
MATERIAL, THAT WOULD COST
EXTREME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT WOULD
EVER HAPPEN.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON ANY OF
THESE SORT OF SITES, DOESN'T
MATTER WHERE YOU LOOK.
IT COMES DOWN, AND IT GETS
PULVERIZED.
IT LIKELY GETS EITHER USED FOR
ROAD FILL, OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE
IN OUR COMMUNITY OR IT GETS
LEVELED ON SITE, CAPPED OVER,
AND THEN REUSED AFTER THAT, THE
SITE GETS REUSED FOR WHATEVER IS
AVAILABLE.
SO MY SHORT ANSWER IS QUITE
LIKELY THE PRICE TAG ON THIS
ENTIRE PROJECT IS LESS THAN TEN
MILLION DOLLARS.
WE DON'T ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT
UNTIL WE DO THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
THIS IS DOABLE, AND IT IS DOABLE
WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
WE ALL NEED TO GET IN THE SAME
ROOM AND START TALKING.
>> THE ORIGINAL PRICE TAG FROM
WHAT I UNDERSTAND WAS ABOUT
$20 MILLION, AND THAT WAS 15 TO
20 YEARS AGO.
AND THE PRICE THAT I HAVE HEARD
FROM PEOPLE THAT IN THE
CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS WOULD HAVE
COST UPWARDS OF 30 TO
$40 MILLION, AND THEY WOULD HAVE
TO HAUL THE SILOS, THE GROUND UP
SILOS UP TO PEORIA.
AND IF YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR
ANY KIND OF BUSINESS OR USE THE
LAND OR DO ANYTHING, YOU'D HAVE
TO HAUL THAT STUFF AWAY.
>> NEGATIVE.
I MEAN THAT'S SIMPLY CONJECTURE.
>> I GUESS WE ARE BOTH HAVE
CONJECTURE.
>> WHEN YOU CONSULT WITH BROWN
FIELD SPECIALIST, YOU HEAR
DIFFERENT ANSWERS.
TWO HUNDRED PLUS TONS OF
MATERIAL THAT WERE REMOVED WERE
REMOVED TO THE TAYLORVILLE,
CHRISTIAN COUNTY LANDFILL MUCH
CLOSER WHEN THOSE MATERIALS HAD
TO BE REMOVED.
AND, AGAIN, IT IS HIGHLY
UNLIKELY THAT BULK MATERIALS
WILL BE REMOVED FROM THIS SITE.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
>> CORPORATION COUNSEL, PROBABLY
IF THEY FORMED NONPROFIT, THEY
WOULD PROBABLY GIVE IT TO THEM,
WOULDN'T THEY?
THERE IS YOUR ANSWER.
YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND START
A GROUP AND START RAISING MONEY.
>> THAT'S CERTAINLY BEEN WITHIN
THE REEL MANY OF THE DISCUSSION.
>> ALL STAKEHOLDERS NEED TO BE
PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
>> CHRIS, THANKS FOR YOUR
COMMITMENT AND EXPERTISE ON THIS
TOPIC.
THANKS FOR COMING TO THE INNER
CITY OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ANNUAL
MEETING A WEEK AGO LAST NIGHT
AND MAKING A REALLY STRONG SLIDE
AND VIDEO PRESENTATION WITH LOTS
OF HISTORY AND PROMISE FOR THE
FUTURE.
>> APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS,
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
>> MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> DO WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> NO, SIR.
>> SECOND TO ADJOURN.
>> SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> ALL IN FAVOR.
>> AYE.
>>
