You're probably seeing who's Jordan
Peterson and who cares if he's telling
you to have kids well Jordan Peterson is
a Canadian was also a professor at the
University of Toronto he's written
several books including twelve rules for
life and has recently been making the
circuit in the United States and has
been creating quite a buzz of the
content that he discusses he discusses
literally almost anything that you want
to talk about with him up until a few
months ago I had absolutely no idea who
he was but several of his videos keep
popping up in my recommended and so one
day I decided to click and watch let me
know down in the comments below if
you've actually ever listened to any of
his talks hey guys I'm Dave Rubin and
this is the all-new Reuben report the
particularly oh I watched was when he
was on the Reuben report and Dave Rubin
and Jordan Peterson were discussing why
Jordan Peterson thought that people
should have children
of course this piqued my interest right
away seeing that I am the wife without
kids and on this channel we talked all
about child free living and why there is
absolutely nothing wrong with choosing
not to have children it's not a super
long clip it was about seven minutes
long and I will link the clip down below
if you want to go and watch the whole
thing I'm not gonna be playing the whole
thing here I'm just gonna be showing you
a couple of clips and then making some
comments on what they discuss we talked
a little bit about this over a drink we
got a couple weeks ago but what about
the couples that have no kids couples
that just say you know we're more
interesting our intellectual pursuits
are traveling or something you think
they're really missing sort of like a
key component of what life is right I do
I really that I mean I think they don't
I think kids have a bad rap that's the
problem that's also why I wrote his
chapter we party all right he's got a
great point here kids do kind of have a
bad rap in Hollywood or just in general
I don't know if this is just a North
American thing and all kids when they
you know are a certain age they kind of
turned rebellious and they turn
difficult but it's kind of true if you
were to watch TV and you could see what
the kids were like on TV no one would
probably want to have kids you know you
see this to a lot Hollywood depictions
of children's very rare that you see
children portrayed nobly you know in a
whole wood film but then I ask the
question are kids actually noble they're
kids kids tend to be selfish let's be
honest
as adults we poked a lot of life skills
already and to say please and thank you
and behave in a way that's competent and
rational but I feel like a lot of times
kids haven't learned that yet so how can
they really be displayed as being these
noble creatures when they're still
learning a bunch of life skills
you have to understand about kids
they're unbelievably good company you
know and so they pay you back for your
care of them and by being ridiculously
amusing their little clowns and they're
doing crazy little stunts all the time
and they have a sense of humor that
kicks a mic I have a grandchild now
that's two and a half months old and
that child can already smile and has the
beginnings of a sense of humor that's to
me that's a miracle that's really it is
it and so they're very funny they're
really playful they really really like
you and you can have the kind of
relationship with them that you set out
to have there is a reason they had shows
like kids say the darndest things
because it is true it is really funny
sometimes
but again that's only seeing snippets of
a child's life yes sometimes they're
amusing and they're funny and they're
good company but a lot of the times they
just aren't we can't trick ourselves
into thinking oh you have a kid and it's
going to give back 100% and you will be
so glad you were a parent and you will
never have any struggles or any hard
times now I don't think that's exactly
what he's saying in the video but I do
think he's portraying kids to be a
little more amazing and that they give
back a little more than maybe in reality
Hey okay that's enough back up back up
what are you doing man why'd you do that
well yeah
kids do definitely give things back to
parents but they take they take a lot
more than they give I think so
especially when they're younger they're
taking all the time and yes those few
things that you get back from them maybe
they keep you going as a parent if
you're feeling discouraged or you're
feeling tired and it is worth it I'm not
saying it's not worth it
but I'm saying having kids is a lot of
work it's not just that they're giving
you back all these things and it's easy
cycle and it's just let's have kids
because they're gonna be funny and we
get to spend time with them and they're
great do you want a brother do you want
a sister no what do you want
thank you you can pizza rolls yeah okay
children give parents things there's no
doubt about it but they take and they
take a lot by the time you're 30 say
you've seen so much of the world that
you actually don't see the world anymore
and this is technically true like I'm
all done 55 when I walk down the street
this house it I don't look at them I
have house icons in the memory and I
just see the house icons and and so the
older you get in some sense the more
what you see of the world is your memory
and that's kind of its efficient but
it's sort of dead you know and artists
help break through that they show you
something as if it's new again you know
and so that's why van Gogh's irises you
know sell four hundred sixty million
dollars it's like you haven't looked at
flowers since you were three yeah okay
so the thing that's cool about having a
little kid is everywhere you go because
we're so good at putting ourselves in
other people's bodies the kid
revitalizes the world it kids like oh I
mean a definite old looks like all the
time right they're just completely
awestruck by everything and you can see
that again and that's really interesting
okay okay okay
time out we got to talk about this one
yes Jordan Peterson you are right I
remember having this discussion with my
husband when he says I hit the age of
blank I don't remember what it was eight
ten twelve and suddenly the magic of
Christmas was gone you know when you're
a little kid and you're bright-eyed you
see the lights and you hear the music
and you see the gifts and everything is
just so amazing and you can't wait til
Christmas morning and you look forward
to it all year and it's not a letdown
but then at some point it it's nobody
it's a letdown
but it kind of loses its sparkle and it
loses its magic and I do think that's
true and that can be true with any
holiday we don't see those things
through innocent eyes anymore and go oh
wow the world is so amazing not in the
same way that a little kid does but
here's where I disagree because I don't
think that's a reason to have a kid if
we had a kid every time we lost the a
moment wouldn't we all have like
hundreds of kids now I understand he's
not saying every time you lose an awe
moment have a child but it does kind of
sound like he's saying if you have a kid
you get to live through your child's
experiences which yes there are
definitely benefits to that but on the
other side of the spectrum that can be
kind of dangerous parents can push the
kids to do things the kids don't want to
do just so the parents can have their
all moment through their kids or through
their kids successes I think we can
still have a ha moments as adults I
absolutely think we can because here's
the thing the world is amazing it's huge
it's big there are places to travel
there are things to learn there are
foods to eat there's all sorts of stuff
that you can do within life there's no
excuse for an adult not to have aha
moments now it may not be with the exact
same wonderment and excitement is when
you're a child it might take a little
bit more effort to have a ha moment you
might have to save some money to travel
somewhere to have an aha moment but you
can still have those amazing moments
where you're surprised at life and what
the world has to offer you there's a
disciplinary element it's really
important to it one of the things that
modern parents don't understand and I
think this is because of the exception a
permissive ethos of the 1960s where when
we develop this idea that everything
that society does the children is bad so
don't damage your children but by
putting restrictions on them it's like
that's just that's so wrong that it's
almost impossible it's why people shy
away from kids because they don't
understand that you don't have to put up
with any unpleasant you don't have to
put up with any unnecessary unpleasant
nonsense for children it's not necessary
ok I am so glad somebody has said this
because I feel like as someone who
doesn't have children I don't have the
right to say this but Jordan Peterson
has kids so he can say it you don't have
to put up with unnecessary nonsense from
children I love it
ah angel choir moment
there is something so off-putting about
kids who I never disciplined but I know
some people who believe their children
are old souls and so they raise
themselves they don't need a discipline
or any guidance whatever they want to do
they can do it I don't understand this
way of thinking and then it's really
difficult when kids like that come to
your home because they're wild they're
inappropriate they do whatever they want
and you can't say anything because their
parents say they're raising themselves
they'll be okay
you could almost argue that the sixties
led to exactly what you're talking about
these kids who then were taught to be
afraid of everything they become a mess
they're the parents of now and that's
probably in part why they're having less
children or at least talking about
family and children in a different way
well there's also less trust in the
structure the family because the divorce
rate has proliferated I have a natural
affinity for little kids and I do
believe it's it's in large part that's
why because I just know how to react
with him and it's me I do believe it's
because of the way that I was treated
when I was a little kid he just rubbed
out it's like a lots people don't trust
themselves his parents say because they
were hurt there didn't have good role
models or they don't trust the famille
no structure and having more of an
affinity towards kids if you're raised
well I feel like this is probably a
fairly accurate statement than something
that actually until I watched this video
I didn't think about too much my parents
divorced when I was I think 14 or 15 or
16 somewhere around there and I would
say that my mom was my primary role
model and had a larger part in raising
me than my dad did okay I'm not changing
my mind about having kids but I have
given this some thought I have an idea
of what I would want my child to be I
would want them to behave in a way that
was respectful and honorable I would
want them to give to society I would
want them to have a strong value system
I don't know if I would actually know
how to do that as a parent because how
would you do that and you wouldn't know
if the skillset that you thought you
needed to raise your kid was right or
wrong until your kid was raised and then
is it kind of too late then because what
the kid makes of their life from then on
is gonna be their choice I can kind of
understand this notion that being a
parent can kind of scare people off and
it makes them not want kids people are
different
they've always been different some
people get married some people don't
some people have kids some people don't
some people have pets some people don't
I don't think the role of having
children fits everybody we've made the
choice not to have kids because we don't
want them and I think that was the best
choice for us maybe we would have been
great parents maybe we would have been
terrible parents or maybe
would have been parents that kind of
fell in the middle somewhere I'm really
not sure for a little more child free
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