VOICE AND OBSCURING HER FACE.
SHANNON.
>> Shannon: CATHERINE HERRIDGE
ON A HILL, THANK YOU.
AMID THE IMPEACHMENT CURE,
CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, LINDSEY GRAHAM, IS
OFF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY A
CHANCE TO TALK DIRECTLY TO
LAWMAKERS.
SENATE MINORITY LEADER
CHUCK SCHUMER SAYS SURE,
GIULIANI CAN TESTIFY BUT ONLY IF
HE IS UNDER OATH.
JOINING ME NOW, FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTORS GREEN AND
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.
>> HI, SHANNON BREAM
>> Shannon: SO LET'S START
WITH THAT, DIANNE FEINSTEIN THE
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SAYS
I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
QUESTION RUDY GIULIANI UNDER
OATH ABOUT HIS ROLE IN SEEKING
THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
ASSISTANCE TO INVESTIGATE ONE OF
THE PRESIDENT POLITICAL MY
POLITICAL RIVALS.
I'M POPPING POPCORN IF THAT
HAPPENS.
>> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE
RUDY GIULIANI TESTIFY IN FRONT
OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, ALTHOUGH
SENATOR FEINSTEIN APPEARS
CONFUSED ABOUT EXACT WHAT IS
INVOLVED THERE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND RUDY
GIULIANI ARE VERY MUCH HOPING TO
BRING TO LIGHT HOW UKRAINE
MEDDLED IN THE 2016 ELECTION ON
BEHALF OF HILLARY CLINTON.
DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES WORKING
WITH UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS TO HELP
HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN AND
THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ADMITTED
TO BY UKRAINE OFFICIALS AND OF
COURSE MANY PEOPLE IN UKRAINE
WERE INVOLVED IN THIS SORT OF
RUSSIA HOAX, THIS IDEA THAT
DONALD TRUMP WAS A TRADER WHO
HAD COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA IN THE
2016 ELECTION, WHICH BRINGS US
TO THE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT
POINT, THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE SHOULD BE HAVING A LOT
MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST RUDY
GIULIANI TESTIFYING, INCLUDING
SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND
FBI INVESTIGATION OF THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN.
IT IS VERY ODD THAT
LINDSEY GRAHAM HASN'T BEEN DOING
MORE AND THAT OTHER COMMITTEES
HAVE BEEN DOING MORE AS WELL.
>> Shannon: AS FOR THE LEADERS
WHO HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE,
WANTING TO TALK TO OTHER
WITNESSES AND THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS, THE WHITE HOUSE SENDING
THIS BLASTING LETTER TONIGHT
BACK TO THE DEMOCRAT LEADERS.
IT READ PART OF IT.
COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT WRITING
"EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING WITH
WHAT THEY CALL A FATE
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY THERE'S BEEN
NO VOTE, VIOLATE THE
CONSTITUTION, WILL OF LAW AND
PAST PRESIDENT.
GIVEN THE INQUIRY LACKS ANY --
ANY PRETENSE OF FAIRNESS OR EVEN
THE MOST ELEMENTARY DUE PROCESS
PROTECTION, EXECUTIVE BRANCH
CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO
PARTICIPATE IN IT.
TO WHICH THEY SAY THE PRESIDENT
CAN'T CROSS-EXAMINE ANYONE, HE
CAN'T CALL WITNESS, HE CAN'T GET
EVIDENCE, SO WHY DON'T THEY JUST
TAKE A VOTE AND THAT'S THE
PRIMARY OBJECTION, TAKE THAT
AWAY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND
MAKE IT A MORE FORMAL PROCEEDIN
PROCEEDING?
>> WELL, SHANNON, I THINK YOU
AND ANYONE WHO HAS A LITTLE
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW OUR
CONSTITUTION WORKS, HOW THE
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS WORKS, THAT
ALL OF THOSE TRIAL ACTIVITIES
THAT THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS
WROTE IN A LETTER.
IT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE SENATE
AFTER AN IMPEACHMENT BY THE
HOUSE.
AND IT'S ALSO VERY CLEAR WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THIS LETTER THAT
CAME OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE
TODAY THAT THIS IS A POLITICAL
ARGUMENT.
EVERY SINGLE LEGAL ANALYSIS THAT
I HAVE READ, THAT I HAVE TALKED
TO LAWYERS WERE EXPERTS ON THIS
SAY THERE'S NO LEGAL ARGUMENT IN
THIS LETTER AND SO WHETHER IT IS
LINDSEY GRAHAM IN THE SENATE OR
THE WHITE HOUSE WITH NOW THIS
LETTER TRYING EVERYTHING THAT
THEY CAN TO SHUT DOWN WHAT IS A
VALID INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT I
HOPE EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN,
WHETHER YOU'RE A TRUMP SUPPORTER
OR A DEMOCRAT OR YOU VOTED FOR
HILLARY IN 2016 WOULD UNDERSTAND
THAT RUSSIA, UKRAINE, CHINA, NO
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT HAS ANY
BUSINESS IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS DOING WHAT
RUSSIA DID, DOING WHAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS ASKED UKRAINE TO
DO, DOING WHAT WE HEARD HIM SAY
ON NATIONAL TELEVISION ASKING
TRANSITIVE VARIED SO WE DO HAVE
TO GET TO THIS POINT AND
NANCY PELOSI TRIED HER DARNDEST
NOT TO GET TOO IMPEACHMENT.
AND I HAVE BEEN PROUD AT MANY
TIMES IN MY LIFE TO BE A
DEMOCRAT, BUT I'M PARTICULARLY
PROUD WITH DEMOCRATS NOW BECAUSE
EVEN IN THE FACE OF ONE --
IMPEACHMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT
WOULD BE A POLITICAL RISK.
DOUBT IS CHANGING BECAUSE YOU
ARE SEEING THE POLLS MOVE VERY
FAST.
THE REPUBLICANS CALLING FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
>> Shannon: LET ME QUICKLY --
I WANT TO GET YOU TO REPLY TO
THE REPORTING BY BYRON YORK
TONIGHT THAT THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL CALLED FOLKS
THAT HE WAS TESTIFYING THAT NOT
ONLY WAS THE ORIGINAL
WHISTLE-BLOWER SOMEBODY WHO WAS
SIMPLY A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT,
EVERYBODY AROUND HERE IN D.C. IS
REGISTERED FOR SOMETHING BUT A
SIGNIFICANT TITLE I OF THE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
CURRENTLY BUYING TWO CHALLENGED
PRESIDENT TRUMP IN NEXT YEAR'S
ELECTIONS.
ONLY A FEW SECONDS BUT I WANT TO
GET YOUR REACTION.
>> WE ALREADY KNEW THERE WERE
MULTIPLE REASONS WHY THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL THOUGHT THE
WHISTLE-BLOWER HAD PARTISAN BIAS
AND IT COULDN'T BE JUST THAT HE
WAS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT,
LEARNING THAT HE ALSO HAD
PROFESSIONAL TIES TO ONE OF THE
CANDIDATES, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT MORE THAN THAT WE HAVE A
RELIGION TO BELIEVE THE
WHISTLE-BLOWER WAS INTERESTED
BLOWING A WHISTLE IS REPEATING
HEARSAY.
HE GOT A LOT WRONG WITH WHAT HE
CLAIMED ABOUT THIS PHONE CALL
AND THIS IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM
WITH THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY TO
BEGIN WITH.
WE HAVE THE ENTIRE PHONE CALL.
WE ALL CAN READ IT SO WE DON'T
NEED WHISTLE-BLOWERS, WE DON'T
NEED TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY
THOUGHT WAS BEING COVERED UP.
AND OF COURSE THE OTHER
PROBLEM --
>> Shannon: WITHOUT A TO LIVE
IT THERE BUT THERE IS A BIG
EFFORT TO GET TESTIMONY DIRECTLY
FROM THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER.
I THINK EVERYBODY AROUND HERE
HOPE THAT HAPPENS, HOPE WE GET
SMART ANSWERS.
>> WE DESERVE IT, WE DESERVE
THAT TESTIMONY AND WE DESERVE
