>>> TRUMP’S FORMER PERSONAL
>>> TRUMP’S FORMER PERSONAL LAWYER MICHAEL COHEN IS BACK IN
LAWYER MICHAEL COHEN IS BACK IN THE NEWS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
THE NEWS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GUILTY PLEA HE AGREED TO WITH
GUILTY PLEA HE AGREED TO WITH THE FEDS, AND HANG ON FOR THIS
THE FEDS, AND HANG ON FOR THIS ONE.
ONE. THE"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL"
THE"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" OBTAINED AUDIO OF A PHONE CALL
OBTAINED AUDIO OF A PHONE CALL AS ONE DOES BETWEEN COHEN AND
AS ONE DOES BETWEEN COHEN AND ACTOR TOM ARNOLD, AN OUTSPOKEN
ACTOR TOM ARNOLD, AN OUTSPOKEN CRITIC OF THE PRESIDENT RECORDED
CRITIC OF THE PRESIDENT RECORDED MARCH 25th OF THIS YEAR.
MARCH 25th OF THIS YEAR. THE JOURNAL REPORTS COHEN WAS
THE JOURNAL REPORTS COHEN WAS NOT AWARE HE WAS BEING RECORDED.
NOT AWARE HE WAS BEING RECORDED. COHEN IS HEARD SAYING HE’S
COHEN IS HEARD SAYING HE’S INNOCENT OF TAX EVASION AND OF
INNOCENT OF TAX EVASION AND OF UNDERSTANDING HIS DEBT IN
UNDERSTANDING HIS DEBT IN HUSBAND AN APPLICATION FOR A
HUSBAND AN APPLICATION FOR A HOME EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT
HOME EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT >> I LOST MY BUSINESS, I LOST
>> I LOST MY BUSINESS, I LOST EVERYTHING, MY INSURANCE, MY
EVERYTHING, MY INSURANCE, MY BANK ACCOUNTS, ALL FOR WHAT?
BANK ACCOUNTS, ALL FOR WHAT? ALL FOR WHAT
ALL FOR WHAT BECAUSE TRUMP, YOU KNOW, HAD AN
BECAUSE TRUMP, YOU KNOW, HAD AN AFFAIR WITH A PORN STAR.
AFFAIR WITH A PORN STAR. THAT’S REALLY WHAT THIS IS
THAT’S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
ABOUT. THIS ISN’T TAX EVASION
THIS ISN’T TAX EVASION AND I LOST 18% TO 19% VALUE ON
AND I LOST 18% TO 19% VALUE ON MY HOME.
MY HOME. >> I SAID UNDERSTANDING,
>> I SAID UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTATING THE VALUE OF HIS
UNDERSTATING THE VALUE OF HIS HOME
HOME THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DENIED
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DENIED ALLEGATIONS TRUMP HAS HAD AN
ALLEGATIONS TRUMP HAS HAD AN AFFAIR, WE SHOULD POINT THAT
AFFAIR, WE SHOULD POINT THAT OUT.
OUT. THE JOURNAL ALSO REPORTS, QUOTE,
THE JOURNAL ALSO REPORTS, QUOTE, COHEN SAID HE PLEADED GUILTY OF
COHEN SAID HE PLEADED GUILTY OF THE CHARGES IN AUGUST BECAUSE
THE CHARGES IN AUGUST BECAUSE THEY HAD ME ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE
THEY HAD ME ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND PROSECUTORS WERE TARGETING
AND PROSECUTORS WERE TARGETING HIS WIFE
HIS WIFE AS PART OF OUR SERIES,
AS PART OF OUR SERIES, UNCOVERED, WE’RE DIVING DEEP
UNCOVERED, WE’RE DIVING DEEP INTO PORTIONS OF THE MUELLER
INTO PORTIONS OF THE MUELLER REPORT WHICH HAVE NOT RECEIVED A
REPORT WHICH HAVE NOT RECEIVED A WHOLE LOT OF NEWS COVERAGE
WHOLE LOT OF NEWS COVERAGE AND WE’RE FOCUSING TONIGHT ON
AND WE’RE FOCUSING TONIGHT ON COHEN.
COHEN. AFTER THE FBI SEARCHED HIS HOME
AFTER THE FBI SEARCHED HIS HOME AND OFFICE A YEAR AGO ACCORDING
AND OFFICE A YEAR AGO ACCORDING TO MUELLER, AFTER THE SEARCHES
TO MUELLER, AFTER THE SEARCHES TRUMP CALLED COHEN AND TOLD HIM
TRUMP CALLED COHEN AND TOLD HIM TO HANG IN THERE AND STAY
TO HANG IN THERE AND STAY STRONG
STRONG COHEN SAID HE ALSO HEARD FROM
COHEN SAID HE ALSO HEARD FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE IN TOUCH
INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE IN TOUCH WITH THE PRESIDENT
WITH THE PRESIDENT THE REPORT READS THIS WAY.
THE REPORT READS THIS WAY. QUOTE, COHEN RECALLED THAT
QUOTE, COHEN RECALLED THAT REDACTED, A FRIEND OF THE
REDACTED, A FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT’S REACHED OUT TO SAY
PRESIDENT’S REACHED OUT TO SAY HE WAS WITH THE BOSS IN
HE WAS WITH THE BOSS IN MAR-A-LAGO AND THE PRESIDENT HAD
MAR-A-LAGO AND THE PRESIDENT HAD SAID HE LOVES YOU AND NOT TO
SAID HE LOVES YOU AND NOT TO WORRY.
WORRY. COHEN RECALLED THAT REDACTED FOR
COHEN RECALLED THAT REDACTED FOR THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION TOLD HIM
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION TOLD HIM THE BOSS LOVES YOU
THE BOSS LOVES YOU AND COHEN SAID THAT REDACTED, A
AND COHEN SAID THAT REDACTED, A FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT’S TOLD
FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT’S TOLD HIM EVERYONE KNOWS THE BOSS HAS
HIM EVERYONE KNOWS THE BOSS HAS YOUR BACK.
YOUR BACK. WITH THAT WE BRING IN EMILY JANE
WITH THAT WE BRING IN EMILY JANE FOX, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT FOR
FOX, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT FOR VANITY FAIR.
VANITY FAIR. ALSO HAPPENS TO BE THE AUTHOR
ALSO HAPPENS TO BE THE AUTHOR OF, BORN TRUMP
OF, BORN TRUMP EMILY JANE FOX, WHAT HAVE WE
EMILY JANE FOX, WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED HERE OTHER THAN NUMBER
LEARNED HERE OTHER THAN NUMBER ONE IF COR SASSE COMES TO YOU
ONE IF COR SASSE COMES TO YOU AND SAYS NO I HAVE BETTER
AND SAYS NO I HAVE BETTER DIALOGUE AND TELL HIM HE’S
DIALOGUE AND TELL HIM HE’S CRAZY.
CRAZY. AND NUMBER TWO IF TOM ARNOLD
AND NUMBER TWO IF TOM ARNOLD CALLS YOU JUST KNOW ANYTHING YOU
CALLS YOU JUST KNOW ANYTHING YOU SAY COULD END UP ON THE FRONT
SAY COULD END UP ON THE FRONT PAGE
PAGE >> IT JUST HAD EVERY LITTLE
>> IT JUST HAD EVERY LITTLE PIECE OF THE TRUMP STORY WE
PIECE OF THE TRUMP STORY WE WATCHED PLAY OUT OVER THE LAST
WATCHED PLAY OUT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
THREE YEARS. WHAT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED
WHAT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED TODAY, OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER KNOW
TODAY, OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER KNOW WHO’S RECORDING YOUR PHONE CALL.
WHO’S RECORDING YOUR PHONE CALL. AND HE THOUGHT BASICALLY THIS
AND HE THOUGHT BASICALLY THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CHO00
WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CHO00 BECAUSE
BECAUSE BECAUSE COHEN HAS BEEN
BECAUSE COHEN HAS BEEN RELATIVELY SILENT ESPECIALLY
RELATIVELY SILENT ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM.
ABOUT THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM. >> AND TOM ARNOLD IS THE ARBITER
>> AND TOM ARNOLD IS THE ARBITER OF WHAT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC OR
OF WHAT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC OR NOT.
NOT. >> THAT’S WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO
>> THAT’S WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO WITH THIS CONVERSATION
WITH THIS CONVERSATION BUT HE MADE CLEAR HE BELIEVED HE
BUT HE MADE CLEAR HE BELIEVED HE WAS DOING THIS WITHOUT COHEN’S
WAS DOING THIS WITHOUT COHEN’S KNOWLEDGE OF THE RECORDING
KNOWLEDGE OF THE RECORDING AND FROM ALL MY REPORTING ON
AND FROM ALL MY REPORTING ON THIS COHEN DID NOT KNOW HE WAS
THIS COHEN DID NOT KNOW HE WAS BEING RECORDED AND MANY OF THE
BEING RECORDED AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT HE SAID WERE
THINGS THAT HE SAID WERE ACTUALLY IN THE SENTENCING MEMO
ACTUALLY IN THE SENTENCING MEMO THAT HIS ATTORNEY, HIS FORMER
THAT HIS ATTORNEY, HIS FORMER ATTORNEY HAD FILED IN DECEMBER
ATTORNEY HAD FILED IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, AND SO HE WAS NOT
OF LAST YEAR, AND SO HE WAS NOT GOING BACK ON HIS GUILTY PLEA.
GOING BACK ON HIS GUILTY PLEA. THESE WERE ARGUMENTS HE HAD MADE
THESE WERE ARGUMENTS HE HAD MADE IN THAT INITIAL SENTENCING MEMO.
IN THAT INITIAL SENTENCING MEMO. >> IN COVERING MICHAEL COHEN YOU
>> IN COVERING MICHAEL COHEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSED ON THIS BROADCAST
HAVE DISCUSSED ON THIS BROADCAST HIS FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY MEMBERS.
HIS FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY MEMBERS. I BELIEVE HIS WIFE WAS THE BOOK
I BELIEVE HIS WIFE WAS THE BOOK KEEPER OF THE SMALL LAW FIRM
KEEPER OF THE SMALL LAW FIRM WE’VE ALSO SEEN MICHAEL COHEN’S
WE’VE ALSO SEEN MICHAEL COHEN’S FAMILY PUBLICLY THREATENED OVER
FAMILY PUBLICLY THREATENED OVER SOCIAL MEDIA
SOCIAL MEDIA SO HE HAD GROUNDS FOR THAT FEAR.
SO HE HAD GROUNDS FOR THAT FEAR. >> SURE.
>> SURE. AND I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE
AND I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING PARTS OF
OF THE MOST INTERESTING PARTS OF THE MUELLER REPORT FOR ME AS
THE MUELLER REPORT FOR ME AS SOMEONE WHO WAS LOOKING CLOSELY
SOMEONE WHO WAS LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE COHEN PORTION OF IT
AT THE COHEN PORTION OF IT WHAT MUELLER LAID OUT IS THE
WHAT MUELLER LAID OUT IS THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE WAS
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE WAS HAPPENING IN PLAIN SIGHT
HAPPENING IN PLAIN SIGHT AS YOU READ EARLIER THE
AS YOU READ EARLIER THE PRESIDENT WAS SEND\ING THESE
PRESIDENT WAS SEND\ING THESE MESSAGES TO FRIENDS TO STAY
MESSAGES TO FRIENDS TO STAY STRONG BUT PUBLICLY HE WAS
STRONG BUT PUBLICLY HE WAS CALLING COHEN A RAT AND SAYING
CALLING COHEN A RAT AND SAYING MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY SHOULD BE
MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND LOOKED INTO IT.
INVESTIGATED AND LOOKED INTO IT. AND SO THOSE PIECES OF THE
AND SO THOSE PIECES OF THE MUELLER REPORT WERE PARTICULARLY
MUELLER REPORT WERE PARTICULARLY INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE
INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE MUELLER GAVE CREDENCE TO COHEN’S
MUELLER GAVE CREDENCE TO COHEN’S FEAR AND SAID WE UNDERSTAND WHY
FEAR AND SAID WE UNDERSTAND WHY THIS CAN LOOK LIKE POTENTIAL
THIS CAN LOOK LIKE POTENTIAL WITNESS TAMPERING OR POTENTIAL
WITNESS TAMPERING OR POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IT WAS JUST HAPPENING IN PLAIN
IT WAS JUST HAPPENING IN PLAIN SIGHT.
SIGHT. >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY, AND THIS
>> IS IT FAIR TO SAY, AND THIS CALLS I GUESS FOR A JUDGMENT ON
CALLS I GUESS FOR A JUDGMENT ON HIS STATE OF MIND, THAT MICHAEL
HIS STATE OF MIND, THAT MICHAEL COHEN AS HE PREPARES 12 DAYS
COHEN AS HE PREPARES 12 DAYS FROM NOW TO ENTER THE FEDERAL
FROM NOW TO ENTER THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM, EXPECTED TO BE
PRISON SYSTEM, EXPECTED TO BE VIEWED AS A MORE HEROIC FIGURE
VIEWED AS A MORE HEROIC FIGURE THAN HE IS VIEWED AS TODAY
THAN HE IS VIEWED AS TODAY >> I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE
>> I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE EXPECTED
EXPECTED I THINK THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAS
I THINK THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT -- SINCE HE PLEADED GUILTY
SPENT -- SINCE HE PLEADED GUILTY SINCE THE SUMMER HAS SPENT A
SINCE THE SUMMER HAS SPENT A TREMENDOUS TIME WITH
TREMENDOUS TIME WITH INVESTIGATORS IN THE SPECIAL
INVESTIGATORS IN THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE, THE SOUTHERN
COUNSEL’S OFFICE, THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK AND
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK AND CONGRESS COOPERATING WITH
CONGRESS COOPERATING WITH INVESTIGATORS IN A NUMBER OF
INVESTIGATORS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS
DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS HIS TESTIMONY HAS LED TO
HIS TESTIMONY HAS LED TO INVESTIGATIONS OF MANY OTHERS
INVESTIGATIONS OF MANY OTHERS INCLUDING THE TRUMP
INCLUDING THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, MEMBERS OF THE
ORGANIZATION, MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY
TRUMP FAMILY HIS TESTIMONY LED TO I THINK
HIS TESTIMONY LED TO I THINK UPWARDS OF 80 PEOPLE BEING ASKED
UPWARDS OF 80 PEOPLE BEING ASKED FOR DOCUMENTS FROM DIFFERENT
FOR DOCUMENTS FROM DIFFERENT CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES
CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES SO I THINK HE BELIEVED HIS
SO I THINK HE BELIEVED HIS COOPERATION WOULD BE CONSIDERED.
COOPERATION WOULD BE CONSIDERED. BUT AS YOU SAID IN 12 DAYS HE IS
