we're in South Wales in a district
called s'ghetti
which is part of Swansea and we're here
because this is the area where Rees Howells
lived an after he left Africa he
came back and he established a Bible
College here and we're here to learn
about the principles the secret why
Rees Howells became a hero in the Christian
faith to so many people in fact I was
talking to Howard Conder and said
that we were coming here and and how it
said to me Gordon he said apart from the
Bible for the two books that have
impacted my life one is the biography of
George Muller and the orphanages but
established the other is this book and
this is Rees Howells intercessor by
Norman Grubb and I'm here today to
discover the secrets that really made
him into the man of God that he was but
sadly the Bible college that he started
petered out and placed began to fall
apart and this particular building began
to disintegrate and then a church in
Singapore heard about it and long to
see revival come again to Wales until
United Kingdom and miraculously they
bought it renovated it reestablish the
Bible College and God is now doing
amazing things here so much for us to
learn about today so let's come on and
just discover the secrets of what God
two talents through this particular
like young lovely to talk to you today
you're from Singapore you're here just
for a few short days tell us about light
in Singapore for you the church is very
vibrant I think with something between
20 to 25 percent of the population if
you include the Roman Catholics but the
church is very bulk of the very strong
and Colin cornerstone is were about four
and a half thousand people but we there
are many churches they're huge in in
Singapore as well so the influence of
the Christian is very significant in my
country and cornerstone is the church
but you found it we found it now where
the senior pastor Iran that's right the
DNA of the church has always been about
missions when I first started the church
God spoke to me so clearly we said this
church must be involved in global
missions that was that is the DNA of the
church and every year we send something
like four or five hundred people in
Mission short-term mission trips and
we're basis in 18 different nations
right now in Africa in Asia okay I mean
I listen to all that and I think that
that must more than occupy your time and
yes here we are sitting today in South
Wales in a place called Swansea and you
and your church then this is such time
and money into rebuilding the Bible
College here in Wales why are you done
I've always been a student of the Welsh
revival I think it's one of the greatest
revival since the book of Acts I don't
think there was a revival that touched
an entire nation every strata of society
was impacted by this great revival in
1904 1905 with mr. eben Roberts it was a
great move of the Holy Spirit
I was always been fascinated with the
revival and I've always been in love
with the nation of Wales God has put
something in my heart a supernatural
love for Wales and of course also the
fact that the British Singapore is a
British colony and and the Brit Britain
has invested so much in Singapore our
roads our infrastructure our govern
governance form of parliament they gave
us schools they gave us the law and they
gave us the Word of God and the Lord
said you have a debt to pay to the
British people for what they have
invested in Singapore and you know when
the opportunity came to buy the Bible
I thought it was our debt to pay back to
the British people what they have sown
into my nation and and so I've up but
I've always loved Wales and what God was
doing in this country I Singapore is the
land of my birth but Wales really is the
land of my adoption not so many key
ministers and people have been
particularly to a Bible College of Wales
I was just as we were walking in the
other last night Duncan Campbell I was
told preached over there Evan Roberts
who led to Welsh revival came to hear
Alfred head I think it was who was the
chairman of the Kaiser convention really
it was pond here and so the list of
people goes on what was it about Reece
Hal and the Bible College of Wales that
was so attractive but what are all these
leaving people here 20 years ago I
picked up the book by a man called
Norman group who of course chronicle the
life intense of mystery selves that
great intercessor you know I think that
the depth of intercession in mr. Howells
that mr. Howells taught reached I don't
know anybody who had gone that deep
indignant intercession his
identification with the people that he
was in the ceiling with when we
inaugurated the Bible College here last
year in May we had bed sheets and mr.
Lou Engel who helped us inauguration and
he both concurred with me that this is
probably one of the deepest wells ever
dug in intercession of course you know
in the book that they thwarted a lot of
Hitler's plans in World War two they
prayed it was like they were always two
steps ahead of the enemy they knew
exactly what Hitler was going to do they
prayed against that and God would
somehow shift the Hitler's mine or the
generals mind and the war would shift
and they felt like they were the RAAF of
the of the you know of the war and mr.
Howells felt like he was a soldier in
the heavenlies not in the trenches
fighting a war but in the heavenlies
praying through victory and he was an
amazing man and God would speak to him
about what Hitler would do and of course
they would pray against it and got what
many of the plans and you know in the
words of mr. Winston Churchill he said
the Royal Air Force never had so much
been owed by so many to so few and I
think we can apply that to the praying
band of intercessors here at the Bible
College they change the course of world
history and I think that the world would
be a very different place that they had
not missed the Howells and those praying
Saints interceded at the Bible College
of Wales and I think that that's what
attracts people it's the depth of
intercession it's the quality it's the
life of intercessor the intercessor of
himself that mr. Howell so clearly
enunciated in his book every Christian
knows the importance of praying
yeah but retile talks very much about
the difference between prayers and
intercessors he talks about intercession
as somebody who identifies as somebody
who's goes through agony and even has
Authority we don't really understand
today the difference between praying and
intercession with right but we most
Christians are generally ignorant about
the depth of intercession what actually
entails in possession my goal really is
in purchasing the Bible College of wills
is to continue the work of mr.
Rochelle's
to teach intercession the way he taught
intercession and also to have a praying
ban of people here in the college that
can begin to intercede in world affairs
and change the cause of history like mr.
Howells did with his praying band there
were about a hundred people here praying
right through World War two and then of
course in 1948 would be with the
nationhood of Israel they prayed through
those things and it's amazing the
stories of how they prayed through and
so there is nothing that God cannot do
to a praying banner people that have
committed themselves to this level of
intercession some people wanted heard
the stories of Greece hell and the way
that he prayed and particular Bible
College almost closed down during the
war theaters and and they just spend all
of their times just praying and praying
and interceding if I said to you can you
just share with us on one story of a
particular incident where he was praying
through and saw victory come can you do
that well I you know I think that the
the event at Dunkirk was very very
significant of course you know the
Allied forces were trapped in this in
this town
French town and with the Germans all
around and it was they would have been
massacred and of course miss Teresa was
plunged into intercession and for some
reason the generals of course stopped
the advance of the German army and it
gave them enough time for the evacuation
mass evacuation something like 300
Allied soldiers British soldiers were
were ferried across the channel and I
think that was one of the amazing
stories of how they prayed and literally
stopped the advance of the German I mean
now of course in the natural you could
say you know you could give all kinds of
excuses but we know better that the war
was won in the heavenlies and they
prayed through and God intervened in
that situation
you
mark thanks so much for talking to us
today the pastors from cornerstone came
to Wales they wanted to pray in some of
the other places where wells had taken
place they came to here and it was
actually derelict if I may understand
right
it was absolutely derelict because
Pastor John is a real man of faith
because he put an offer for this place
without even being inside this this room
you know this buildings and so I decided
I'm going to go down there and see this
place so I said to my dad if he had a
visa was it he's my hero I said well he
said if you'd go around come again so we
came down here my dad my two brothers
and we walked around these buildings to
be honest I've never seen such a budget
of buildings everything was out the
radiators atmosphere it was just a total
mess I sent the pictures to Pastor yang
he because on the outside look very nice
but on the inside it was it was a
shambles every building was the scale of
disrepair hadn't been used for two three
years and yeah but there's the Lord what
God's done here physically he's also
doing spiritually as well hmm you said
you came with your dad down here and
your dad said resale was a hero
I've been trying to find out today what
is it what was it about Reese how that
made him so appealing and attractive to
people according my dad when he was
growing up many people were talking
about Reese hours and their the whole
aspect of faith and intercession those
were the two things that people talk
about resolves how he bought this this
whole area with just a few shillings and
it was a huge estate not just this bit
here but it was a huge estate and so
with very little money he went and he
was prepared to speak out in faith and
cry things in faith and God bless them
and the whole area of intercession I was
incredible you know how they praised
through the war you know the victories
that they want through to intercession
and so I think there's two aspects of
faith and the intercession were things
that people you know we're talking about
and he would go around the services or
people would hear stories about him and
he became like a hero of the faith too
many people like my dad I haven't talked
to many people today about that the
healing aspect of his men
but I think the thing that I'm most
remarkable was when he prayed and
believed God said somebody is going to
be healed it wasn't just they'll be
healed it was they'll be healed on this
day and at this time yeah incredible and
in the book it tells a story or even if
salvation how he had a burden to pray
for this particular lady and he he
wanted to prove that prayer was real and
he said lord I believe that this lady
will give her life to the Lord by
Christmas Day that year and this lady
was a rebel
she was an in the village to their bad
reputation and you just went and prayed
I never talked to her it is prayed and
prayed and prayed and Christmas Day she
gave her life to the Lord many times he
saw healings people one for Christ made
some things happen and he knew that God
had spoken
sometimes when the pray in the Blue Room
downstairs and praying for a particular
battle or a particular phase of the war
go would say to him okay
it's done now you can go to bed and he
knew it was done incredible I have that
about just like communication with God
was just so so incredible and we need
that today
this is a remarkable room I've never
been in anywhere quite like it it's
called the Blue Room and what it's done
is set out with the events that have
happened here particularly during the
period of almost ten years of
intercessory prayer but took place from
nineteen thirty six to forty five when
Reese Hal and intercessors met day and
night in order to pray for Britain and
to pray for the Allied forces against
the Nazi enemy and what they've done is
they've written all the way along on the
wall the things would have happened
during the period of time starting from
Ruiz house early beginning as a boy here
in Wales leaving school at ten years old
going off to America to make his fortune
finding Christ and then the things that
have happened in his life I'm going to
be joined now by Robert who's
responsible for putting all this
together and showing all the information
Robert over here it says 1904 Welsh
revival and Rees Hal came back didn't he
yes he came back to Wales when he got
back to Wales it had completely changed
because the revival broke out while he
was in the States so when he came back
he didn't recognize the country that
well because all the pubs were emptied
out there were no court cases being
heard in court the gambling halls were
empty the pubs were empty so he came
back to a wales that was completely
different than the Wales he'll and
Australia it talks here about how two
years after his return at 1906 he had
this experience of full surrender to
Christ yes yes one thing that the Lord
spoke to him about was to fully
surrender to him and come in to the
purpose and the calling that he had in
mind for him now to do that he had to
leave lead a hidden life which meant he
spent many hours in prayer
as you mentioned he also was called out
of his wage earning job his family at
that time were tin miners and he gave up
tin mining in order to follow the call
of God in his life
I mean Rhys Hound really had had a life
it was so different and unusual to tip
too many I mean it says there on the
screen doesn't it call to be a Nazarite
and for a period of time he wasn't
allowed to shave and to cut his her
which sounds just so peculiar in
legalistic when you talk about it but it
was part of his walk with the Lord or
something yes he this is something that
he decided to do on his own
primarily because of Jesus Jesus was a
Nazarite you know himself and so he
wanted to follow in the footsteps of
Jesus so he actually began to take on
his personality which meant of course
the hair grew in the beard grew so he he
set his life apart to to really live as
close to what Jesus would do in this
present modern age I mean if we go on
here you've talked about him living his
work and the wage-earning and people
clearly felt that he not have enough
money and his family and his mom and dad
particularly didn't understand and then
he married and felt the call to Africa
and perhaps the most peculiar part of
his ministry happened then because
they'd had this lovely little baby yet
called Samuel yeah and yet he felt as
part of going to Africa he had to give
the baby up yes
now what was all of this came through
prayer the Lord called him to after he
met Elizabeth they got married they had
Samuel then just right after Samuel was
born the Lord called him to go to Africa
to do missionary work he said but one
thing you must do you must leave Samuel
behind
with relatives and friends while you go
to Africa but if you go to Africa for me
I'll give you 10,000 souls for the
kingdom
so he said okay Lord I'll do it he took
it pretty much like Abraham gave up
Isaac for a period of time that's the
way he took it as giving that Sagna when
you read the book you begin to
understand the emotion particularly for
foot baristas wife it's tiring a part of
leaving a little loved one behind when
it was a real struggle yeah
and yet the Lord gave revival didn't he
yeah in Africa he there was a revival
there they saw miracles they saw
healings the Lord was faithful to give
ten thousand souls into the kingdom of
God and also Reece says it was the best
six years of their life being in Africa
during that time and then of course they
come back don't they yeah I knew times
of his country in him and he's released
by his mission in order to be an
itinerant preacher and he thought this
was going to be fantastic the
opportunity yeah but but instead God had
plans for him to establish a center here
didn't it yes that's right that's right
and that was the beginnings really up of
the Bible College exactly and he did all
this by faith because when he returned
from Africa he had only two shillings to
his name and the Lord began to speak to
him about buying properties because
there were so many people that were
saved during the Welsh revival but there
were new Christians they needed teaching
they needed a place to learn more about
God so that's where Reese house came in
but but his vision wasn't just for a
Bible College his vision also was to
start an orphanage vision was the for
helping the the I think particularly
Holocaust survivors children from from
the Jewish people he got a big vision
the whole world he did he
and he did so much he started a school a
manual school and that was primarily for
missionaries children but eventually the
school got to such a high rating from
the educational system in Wales that
they asked if they could possibly accept
non-christians into the school and they
did and he said he he talked with the
principal and retail said yes why not so
it became an evangelistic tool for for
the school as well but this room
particularly is is noted because of the
intercession with replacement here this
was the place where as the battles were
being fought on the front line yeah the
battles were being fought in the
spiritual realm and exactly yeah exactly
what was going on in what from this room
the Lord spoke to Rhys House in that he
said as you pray I want you to pray as
if you were the soldier on the front
line take that attitude when you come
into prayer with me and so that's what
he did so he took it as I'm a soldier
my prayers are going out first before
the guys before the soldiers you know
hit the hit the war front but I'm but
the Lord spoke to him about praying is
that he was
just like you so much for talking to us
you hear in the days when Samuel Hale
was still the director of the college
went to that's correct yeah I came to
study here in 1993 I think it was for
two years and during that time I met
Samuel Howells
he was very reflective manly of Prayer
so we didn't see him an awful lot other
than meetings because he spent most of
his time in prayer what we've been
talking about about retail and
intercessor and Samuel was his his son
yeah so maybe just knowing Samuel will
help us to have a little understanding
about what Reese was like can you help
us to paint a picture of what Samuel was
like well Samuel as I said was a very
quiet man a shy man in a sense but a
very genuine godly man and whenever you
came into the room where he was you
sense the atmosphere that he was a kind
gentle man and that he loved people when
he loved God it used to be an aura about
him when he came into the room there was
I can't describe it other than an aura
of God about him his head was bowed it
used to have this bow about him and he
got up to share the Word of God and he
just opened the Bible and read a passage
of Scripture but I was amazed my wife
was amazed at the anointing he didn't
expound anything he just read the
passage the anointing that was on that
word filled the room I can't describe
unless you're there the atmosphere that
comes from an anointing of God in some
way just reading the word but you you
know some of the folks who were part of
a college in the time when his father
and any other were were here yes I
remember speaking to some of the ladies
who were in their 80s then had been
spinsters they stayed on
in the regime of intercession over three
cells so I asked them what was it like
doing the Warriors when the Spirit of
God is here and this stadia is speaking
- she said there was such a weight to
the spirit that we walked around with
our heads bowed down so I was amazed
that I'd never heard of anything like
that but they certainly were godly
ladies that gave their lives to God
well some people who are listening who
don't really know what it was like in
the war years here in the college
because for college virtually closed and
and those who are here just gave
themselves to interceding they call
themselves the soldiers of Christ but as
opposed to the soldiers on the
battlefield in may reach heroines would
say we are just as important in our
battle as the men they're on the actual
ground fighting as we need to do our bit
just as much as they do so that was
spiritual warfare so this is why they
gave 24/7 to pray during the warriors to
see the course of the nation changed and
they saw one of the most amazing
miracles take place yes incredible they
were actually interceding about Hitler
moving off the scene and saw that come
to place when he withdrew from Britain
attack in Britain I went to attack
Russia so they had these downloaded by
the Holy Spirit and they were praying
these things in Debian sadly in our in
our country today even in the church
we've watered down prayer where we think
we'll say a prayer and if it doesn't
happen it doesn't happen yeah which is
totally different to the kind of
experience that was taking place here in
this part of Wales and earlier on in the
century can you just help us to
understand and to to know how we can
move from our mediocrity into this depth
and level of intercession that you're
talking about yeah I remember some rural
Harold's saying about
we need to stand in the gap for
situations and that means giving your
life to it in a sense it's not just
offering up a prayer it's really
identifying with the situation and
interceding in such a manner that you
were trying to break through into the
Hamleys that things would change
so I firmly he got to grips with me
about that standing in the gap in the
session and that stood with me that my
prayers were quite shallow I I thought
up until then but in the session was
really putting yourself in the place of
others
the Scriptures talk about as being a
peculiar people and I guess if there was
anyone who is a peculiar person it must
have been resale and and when you read
his story you see the fear of God that
he had and his total abandonment of the
fear of man I think of a story of his
hat and I read it with amazement I never
knew the people in Britain back in the
early nineteen hundreds and tens always
war man always wore a hat when he went
out and and yet he sent whenever he
prayed he had to take his hat off you
and he said the idea of going out into
the open air and into the public without
a hat was something that sort of made
him look so strange and different to
people you but he got to this point
where God and was all-consuming for him
handy which day few of us actually reach
yes I think it's the heroes models were
the prophets of the Old Testament right
he was very afraid of Isaiah in
particular because Isaiah was commanded
by God to walk naked for something like
three years okay so he was very afraid
of Isaiah he thought idea the prophet
Isaiah
reached a level of prophetic perfection
and so he looked at the different models
and he he gave himself to the prophetic
model for example the calling of a
Nazarite at one time he kept to say
along because he felt he was under a vow
of a veneza right and and then he looked
at the different prophets and said
whether he could come up to the level of
these amazing prophets and so that was
mr. Rees Howells lifestyle he was
completely consecrated minds me of
Jeremiah chapter 6 where the Lord talks
about the always the ancient what past
where the good way is you know and in
the church today we don't have people
many people that like the old ways
anymore we like the new the trendy the
the razzmatazz they we like the you know
the the flashing but you know it's the
always that God loves and I feel right I
feel like a resolves he touch a level
of intercession and lifestyle as a
consecrated prophet of God well here you
are today and you've invested enormous
resources and personal effort and time
into establishing the college what are
you hoping what's your prayer what's
your your vision to here now I want to
it I want to do what mr. Reese House of
does I want to continue his legacy
that's that's basically the whole
purpose of this mr. Reese Howells at the
enemy's life had one focus and that was
to pray through the every creature
commission he believed that Matthew 28
would definitely come to pass it every
creature will hear the gospel of Jesus
Christ and to that end he gave himself
in intercession and came out from the
class one day and said we have secured
this scripture I want to continue in
their legacy the whole purpose of the
Bible school is to train people to be
sent out into the harvest field that is
the purpose I when we get students we're
not saying and we get all kinds of
students all right but if you're a
doctor we don't want to train you to be
a better doctor we want to train you so
that you can go into the mission field
if you're a banker we want to train you
so that you can go into the mission
field the whole idea is sending people
thought into the harvest fields because
I believe that we are coming into the
greatest harvest that this world has
ever known Matthew 28 will come to pass
do you see God is beginning to to move
in our European nations again yes I
absolutely believe that God had says his
eyes of the United Kingdom that's why
we're here I feel like we are going to
see great a great Reformation here in
the UK absolutely I believe that with
all my heart there was a man called
Jetson Cornwall many many years ago he's
going to be with the Lord in I was
reading an article that he was praying
one time and he said Lord why don't you
judge the United Kingdom for all the sin
and iniquity in this land and the Lord
said how can I judge a nation and forget
the prayers of the Wesley's and Amy
Carmichael's in the judge Whitfield's it
the the the the men and women that gave
their life for the gospel here to see
the nation's reached and he is not
forgotten Great Britain I believe this
with all my heart mr. resolve and a host
of other people pray through
Great Britain and I believe that
Britain's best days are ahead of her I
believe with all my heart that God is
going to do something and that's why
we're investing so much in the UK God is
going to do something here and in
if Rees Hal were here today he would be
saying it's nothing about me
it's all about my savior it's all about
the Lord Jesus what was it about the
teaching what is it about the teaching
of risk how but it's so important that a
church from Cigna Porsche should invest
millions into restarting the college and
saying look the message that Reese hal
used to teach is so important we need to
get it back out into the Christian world
today one of the things that strikes me
able to manage resellers is that in many
ways he was a very ordinary person he
was a miner he worked in the coal mines
as watch many of that generation and and
age did he had learning or schooling and
in the eyes of many they would have
given him a second look but God takes
ordinary people and there's
extraordinary things in them and through
them and and reseller stands out as one
of those trains of people because he
totally abandoned his life to God's
purposes and and Reese learned things
through his life experience that he
imparts that can very power receive
powerfully through the book that was
written about him and also the testimony
of the college that he bought the place
with two shillings in his pocket and he
bought three centers in all and God's
give him supernatural favor because
favorite will open doors that God's
favor opens doors but nothing else well
and yet over the ten years after you
opened the college over a hundred
thousand pounds came in in donations a
lot of money today was an awful lot of
money there so he was a man who who
lived what he believed and what he
believed affected everything that he
lived it's often talked about one of the
great things that comes out that we'd
like to teach the students yet from his
life about the gained position of
intercession he was a target intercessor
and he would talk about learning not
just the gifts of faith but the grace of
faith that you can come to a place in
prayer and in ministry where you gain a
position and what he meant by that was
he used the illustration or what Norman
gravity's book uses the illustration
about George Muller for instance who
were the orphans in Bristol
so miraculous answers to prayer for
finance for feeding the orphans and he
saw more props provision financially
than any other man alive at that time of
God's supernatural provision for him but
he didn't see many people healed and
access to his prayers but he saw amazing
results for finance in answers to his
prayers
if the George mullet is George bulla
yeah you saw some people healed yeah but
mainly in the area hi Nancy had great
faith he could pray and believe for
anything and it would happen and often
very quickly he also uses in his book
this Norman grab the illustration of
German pastor pastor Gerhardt were very
famous healing and deliverance ministry
in Germany and how for the first 18
months he prayed for a girl in the
village was terribly traumatized and
demonized and it took a year and a half
before she came through for deliverance
I was finally set free but after that
people would come to him and instantly
almost immediately he saw amazing
results and what they said was that like
Reese hours and prayer would gain the
position of authority and intercession
they had gained an authority in healing
or deliverance of famers whereby they
could see immediate results because of
the place that they had come to and
every cell has experienced that in
intercession and prayer because of the
price that he paid and the walk that he
walked he saw the most amazing answers
and he was able to teach and communicate
that to the students who came here and
also at the Press Center for the
nation's and so there's an amazing
legacy we have and we try to tap in
those Wells and into those roots today
you know we've got a great legacy but we
believe you've got an even more exciting
destiny one of the things we say to the
students regarding that because we have
age ranges here this term from 21 years
of age to 71 years of age that in the
kingdom of God whatever age you are the
best is still to come
it's totally opposite in the world you
reach a certain age and they say your
best is behind you but in God's kingdom
the best is always in front of you and
so if we believe the best for the
college is still to come we honor the
past but we definitely don't live in it
we learn from it can we build upon it so
we want to develop the school of
ministry right now we have 34 students
and we are increasing capacity on-site
as from next term with new on-site
accommodation that will double that so
we can take 70 students but it's not
just having numbers come where you want
students to come to be trained to be
taught to catch fire for God and go back
to the nation's and give away what
they've learned and so rich and every
creature with the glass brothers ISM is
a major mandate for us as a college and
then with that is developing build
prayer ministry of the college a very
deep well has being dug here and we are
reading that well and in future time we
may look at putting on a course as a
school of prayer and intercession and
making again the college a major Centre
for prayer for the nation's and if major
part of that purpose as well as has
always been with the college prayer for
the nation of Israel and God's purposes
realization
intellect disappear nice this is the
place where I wanted to do
expect an open heaven in this case
variants are heavier or positive and
white images
it is beautiful I can and call ice cream
department within 15 amazing time
Linda thank you so much for talking to
us I think you're the only student from
United Kingdom of the college at the
moment I am yes I am tell us your story
how did it come that you ended up here
in Wales came about through a series of
events with a friend really I've wanted
to go to Bible College for many years
when I read what happens here and just a
little bit about this history I just
knew I knew it was the place to come so
fucked my husband and he was like this
is definitely the place for you met with
my minister he prayed because I didn't
have the finances to come and he prayed
that God would release the resources and
you know the very next day God sent a
Christian lady to my home I hadn't seen
her for five years and she came to
dinner and she asked me what is God
saying to you at this things and what is
he saying and I shared that with her and
she said that's why I've been sent and
she paid for the whole course for me
yeah amazing I don't I know it has to be
got yeah because there's no other way
that it could be engendered and made to
happen absolutely absolutely and I'm not
one I mean I have great faith but I
personally at that time don't think I
would have filled in the application to
come if I didn't have the money in the
bank that's just how I am and I felt it
was a real confirmation really that God
was saying yes I want you to do this you
know but even so when she gave me the
money I did pray I continued to pray
until and then he sent other people with
prophetic words about coming to college
and you know I heard three things really
and I thought actually I better apply
now yet have been involved in Christian
ministry you involved as a counselor
yeah in terms of reaching out to people
so what new thing have you experienced
and learned by taking time to step aside
right what I think the biggest thing
that I've learned here and I know I'm a
daughter of God I knew that when I came
that has been intensified here and I've
experienced the love and goodness of God
to a level that I've never experienced
before
not only was I blessed by the lady that
sent me here and
to me to come I've been so blessed by
the fellow students here few weeks ago I
was asked to be the valedictorian of
this this cohort and I was really
shocked obviously hasn't explained to a
for designing well I had to google it
broaden as well because I didn't know
and it's kind of an honor paid to a
student that I supposed as well and you
speak on behalf of your fellow student
about your experience here but when I
was asked I didn't know what it means so
I googled it and I contacted my children
my husband and everybody was so they
were so blown away by as as I am to this
day because everybody here could be the
valedictorian everybody because
everybody is of that caliber and I ask
God why why did you choose me and he
said to me because of your faithfulness
I want to give you honor and it was just
you know and I feel really I feel like
I've been really honored here I really
do that is one of the biggest things
yeah I don't cry because it does look at
me quite cheerful to talk about it yeah
let's talk to you as soon as you begin
speaking your accent will give you away
tell us where you from
or I'm from Australia okay but you're
not actually living and working in
Australia at the moment are you know
we've been in Cambodia in our 14 years
my husband and I and what are you doing
in life Cambodia oh we're dealing a wide
spectrum of things we have a
non-government organisation there that's
a Khmer one and we start off with the
Children's Home for eight years and out
of those children has come a training
center for underprivileged and risk of
girls so we trained in beauty and we
trained in hospitality and catering and
then the other so that the girls that
have been with us supporting me as they
run that part of it then the other side
of Phnom Penh we're basically Phnom Penh
ever side of Phnom Penh we have a house
called alabaster and that's in the
red-light district and that's full
there's a lot of sex workers that live
on the streets and so that's a beautiful
place for them to come only in the day
because at night is too dangerous for us
we haven't got the facilities anyway and
they come and have a bath and we make
sure when they sleep they because I
speak in the TalkTalk that night so they
have a lovely sleep every day and hear
the word and we just love them we just
we just love them and honor them and I
want them to feel that they had bad
cousins happen for you where you are you
Australian you're working in Cambodia
and you felt called to come to Bible
College in Wales how did that happen
well I friend in mind that I work with
the school couple years in Cambodia she
lives here in Wales and she was at the
Bible College and she said I believe
God's told you to come so that's how I
came to come here but my heart now is to
go back to Australia and Cambodia and
encourage people to come here and
because it's it's a Holy Spirit place
Hollan it's so real here and it's not
only not only the teaching that's so
good it's the environment of the
classroom and the camaraderie in the
classroom is I think it's a good part of
it that gets you going and they don't
care if you're old they're kind to you
when you are but that's how I got here
you know the Sun is very impolite to
talk about a lady's age as I want to ask
people early but you're at an age were
the Joseon people up
thinking sort of coming towards the end
of the life and yet here you are you're
doing a vital work you're in Cambodia
and yet you've chosen to take time out
and come to Bible College in that wonder
how did that come about I just think
it's the most wonderful thing that's
happened to me I get a bit teary when I
think about it because these three
months has been so very special to me
and my husband personally it's like
God's given Graham and I love the time
together
and it's just I will never forget this
has been the greatest time of one of the
greatest times of my life to be here and
the presence of God in this place is
just amazing it's so beautiful - oh I
felt like as soon as I knew it was house
cause I felt like God was giving me
personally a gift to come here and I've
seen the whole three months as a gift
just a beautiful personal gift from God
to me and Graham Union so had you heard
of retail before you came oh yes I had
I've really spooked five times six time
with here and I really put professor I'm
two weeks into my salvation and then
chapter five where he where the holy
s--t the Holy Spirit says whom are you
willing to be made willing
well I've carried that my whole
Christian walk when God asked me to do
something that I particularly want to do
in acting it is forgive somebody like
this hard sometimes for us to forgive
over several I'm willing for you to make
me willing God say oh yes I know I knew
about his house what is it about RIS
hole that so impacts people his
faithfulness for me I just think the
faithfulness of this man that he would
allow God to use his body and and I've
travail in a small worker I've always
been a print person but I can't imagine
what his body carried when the war was
on and and I just like when I first went
in the blue him I was just grateful to
him for what he'd done and his
faithfulness to the court on his life
and he never he never faltered he
allowed God to just take him and break
him and and I thought that was I just
respect him so much you know love it I
love what he's done and look what's that
coming out of it so you've been here for
three months you've been going through
of course what have you been learning
oh gosh well that me I wouldn't I wrote
myself a personal letter about this and
the caliber of the training is amazing
the teaching the lecturers it's amazing
may their world-class Lex which has no
two ways about it they they're humble
they share their successes and their
failures and they open up the word that
not the words so much for you and it's a
very personal interaction in this
because we've only got a small class
very personal interaction between the
teachers and acids I've learned too much
to even talk about it yet I want to go
home and process what we've actually
learned and it's too much to take in
now yeah so I mean one of the visions
are the Bible College of Wales and one
of the visions of Rhys Kyle was every
creature the whole world and and here
you are involved in in Cambodia so you
can plan to go back to Cambodia oh yes
it would be we that's where we do our
work I don't recorders to be toy yet so
we're hoping another five years what
we've asked God for another five years
we're in the process now of training our
young ones to take it over but you know
like we would have come back here next
year grammar because we feel there's a
place for us here in Wales too but I
know we're not I don't want to retire
yet goodness don't do that to me no I'm
really I don't feel like even when
anywhere near no I I believe that this
place being here has given me a greater
passion to see the red light district
side God gave Graham and I big vision
for the red-light district of is a
nightclub over there called the heart of
darkness and God's told us it will be
called the heart of the Father so the
and I and when we came out of when we
left Cambodia our physical doctor said
you two are so close to burnout you'd be
very careful and we've had excellent
health I mean I'm a big lady but I've
had excellent health granted excellent
health but she said you started to show
signs I was getting vertigo a lot I got
Shingleton
but being here the passion now to see
the red light district with revival and
two things I asked God when I came here
for was a much deeper relationship with
him because you know I don't know about
other people but for me I let God go a
bit and was concentrating on work too
much so I wanted this three months to
get back with that passion for him but
under new authority in the red-light
district and I know I know something's
happened I don't know what yet like
you're there but oh yes I want more
passionate it than I've ever been to see
this outside what when in the West you
reach a certain age it's almost
perceived that you're past it you know
and you need to let go and just retire
and put your slippers on and on looking
feet up you clearly haven't reached that
stage noticing and supposed to have
somebody watching today and they're just
feeling well you know life has passed
them by
and they've reached that age in my life
were they don't seem to have a useful
function and job to do how would you
encourage them today I just say do it
you know I mean there's no two ways
about when you're old up these little
fees come in about your health how much
longer have I God well I look at it this
way I hope I've got 20 more easier but
if I've only got five I don't want to
spend up in front of the telly don't
spend it in front of the telly don't
spend them playing bingo what did you do
spend them with the eternal purpose
because I look I know in that nations
like Cambodia that's the only makes my
no older people have got so much to give
the young you know and when once God
wants you once you step in the guys
court you don't feel hold anymore you
know you get rejuvenated to get legit I
would say come to the bhava colors of
Wales for a start because it's a good
starting point if you want to do
something you're not too old study I
actually hadn't been to school since I
was 12 years old and let's go when I was
12 and one of my big fears was I
wouldn't be able to study and I've got
more other mostly a since I've been here
and I I've had no education and no
matter you older guys and that I had
told you are God's not tired when I sit
down in that day if I've had three hours
sleep when I sit down that desk god
we've generates me and I do every night
and I'm fine so I would just say folks
don't waste your most precious years
give them the God and he truly just do
what you're not too old they just do it
we need to get on the fire you know I I
believe that what God wants to do is not
just depth Isis in the Holy Ghost but
also with fire one of the most famous
students that graduated from this
College was the evangelist Reinhard
Bonnke I had the privilege of meeting
brother bonk in many occasions we hosted
fire conferences in Singapore where we
chaired the conference and so I just met
him a few months ago we hosted something
for him and I talked to him about the
Bible College and we he sort of
remanence the you know some of the old
what happened here in the Bible school
but in 1980 98 I remember the first time
I met him we talked for a few moments
and I never forgot the incident he
looked at me he said young man I must
pray for you you know and he laid hands
on me and my whole life changed
something happened there was an
impartation and I believe this is what
God wants he wants to impart something
to this generation of people it's a
supernatural thing it doesn't come by by
trying more harder you know it's not
even by praying or longer it's an
impartation of grace that comes from
heaven that changes everything and when
he laid hands on me my whole life
changed I remember it was I was a young
pastor just started ministry but
everything change in my life when he
laid hands on me there was an
impartation of Amazing Grace and I feel
this is what God wants to do for people
right now watching the program then he
would just say Lord would you just touch
me with this grace that will transform
me put the fire of God within me I
believe God can do that right now in
this program because I ask you just as
we come to an end - look at the camera -
behind me and what you just press the
viewer watching yes thank you so much
father I just thank you God for every
person that's watching this program
right right now Lord in Jesus name
stretch your hands let the fire of God
touched and let the presence of God be
so real to them let them know that you
are Lord father release grace over them
right now I pray Lord the touch of the
Holy Spirit upon their life and release
the fire of God over them right now Lord
even
I pray this in Jesus name Amen amen
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