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Otherwise, I'm gonna punch you in the throat. But with that said, let's just jump into it
And the first thing we're gonna talk about today
Is this really now historic industry news around Tati Westbrook and James Charles.
but you know an industry situation has gone to just a
Completely different level and you start getting questions from like your parents friends or even from like your grandparents friends
But that reaction is understandable because looking at the size of this situation
This is like nothing we've ever seen before...since Friday  James Charles, easily one of the largest creators on this or many other platforms,
He has lost almost and by the time this video goes up may have lost more than three million subscribers
the internet right now is just filled with memes and mockery of James Charles on pretty much every social media hat part of it is
Also connected to jumping ship from James Charles and subscribing to Tati Westbrook. Who
Actually, as of recording this video has gained more subscribers than James's loss
so one of the questions especially for people outside of the beauty guru industry is how did we get to this point and I think
This is important that we touch on..because right now depending on the outlet that you're going to or the person that you're going to
there are several narratives: some don't don't touch on certain things, some are a little bit off base
It's really a combination of several things all hitting this one big
Breaking point that said we are gonna try and simplify some things trying boil everything down to the core core
pieces because I'm not trying to make a
40-minute video on this just one
topic which with all the information that's out there right now you could but with that said to get to the core of where this
Story gets to we have to go through some drum. So what happened on Friday?
So a thing to know Tati and James were friends sati helped bring James up, right?
She was promoting him to no personal benefit
But near the end of April things seemed not great between the two that appear to be connected to James Charles promoting
What was seen as a rival product specifically sugar bear hairs new sleep vitamins.
Which for those who don't know in addition to Tati Westbrook just being a massive beauty guru and influencer
She's also an entrepreneur with her own vitamin company called Halo beauty. It may point after James's post
We see Tati make an Instagram story where she's crying. She doesn't name James Charles, but she talks about feeling alone in the industry. Just
so upset
I Feel really used and
That's the bad part of Hollywood
Welcome to show business
Everybody says what they need to say and uses who they need to use to get ahead and I have had about enough.
James ends up making his own insta story where he apologizes writing at once publicly apologized my close friend Tati
He's been like a mother to me since my first days in this industry
I did not think about the competition which was a major oversight
I've supported Tati both online and off like she has done for me and I'm
Devastated that I hurt someone that I truly love and of endless respect for and then what possibly was the match that lit the fuse
Your fellow beauty youtuber
Gabriel Zamora chiming in on the situation that didn't seem to have to do with them but claiming that Tati and everyone else made too
Big a deal about the situation. {Gabriel} and it's not even just her crying over vitamins
it's the fact that all these channels and all these people are just
Continuously like making videos on it talking about it
Making this a thing and I'm like really over vitamins. {Philip} and I mentioned that because it brings us to Friday with Tati's
43 minute video. She starts it off by showing how close she and James were she also shows another clip of Gabriel Zamora making a similar
Statement about the vitamins and she sitting Lee hits this note at the beginning where she's not making this video as just a full-on attack
Where she accuses James Charles of speaking behind people's back spreading lies
She seemingly wants to make this public statement
To share her side of this and gain control of the narrative and so to start things off one of the reasons that James Charles
Started bleeding subscribers had to do with the sort of drama
Relationship stuff that people not happy that he was not loyal to a friend that he seemingly betrayed a friend
That he was talking all this terrible stuff in the background also regarding the vitamins
situations not to claim that in the past James Charles had actually bashed a sugar bear hair company and adding a James Charles said in
The past that he couldn't promote Tottie's product because his audience was mainly children
Yeah, but we ended up seeing was that he did this sponsored post for sugar bear hair is sleeping vitamins
Which some people had an even larger negative reaction to because in that push he actually talks about his mental health
Situation you guys probably already know about their I chronic hair vitamins
But they just came out with a brand new vegan sleep vitamins and first of all taste so balm
But most importantly I've been dealing with a lot of anxiety recently and it always comes late at night when I'm laying in bed thinking
Which is not fun or fresh. Um, so I've been taking these targeted this before bed and they've been really really hoping
So if you guys want to check him out you can swipe out
There's also a lot of other noise and drama about how long James Charles knew in advance that he was going to promote this product
But in my opinion a lot of that noise
Doesn't matter the the main net result of the situation is he did a promoted push for that he ended up
Yes later apologizing
so there was that situation flat the thing that kicked it into a whole different gear is the part of the video and part of
a now story is coming out that have people labeling James Charles a predator James Charles as it turns out has a preference for
Heterosexual men this is something that appears that he's talked about on Twitter as well as in videos
We just wobble we can't have hot according to Tati and now several others that there's more to it
Oh my god, you tried to trick a straight man into thinking he's gay yet again and somehow
You're the victim, you know, it's really disgusting to
Manipulate someone's sexuality, especially when they are still you know
Emerging into adulthood and don't quite have everything figured out
You are using your fame your power your money to play with people's emotions. You're threatening to ruin them
You're threatening to embarrass them and you're doing that to have them behave sexually in your favor
Even if they're straight and you know what that's not, okay
Then goes on to give a specific example in the time
He did this at her birthday dinner you were talking in detail about things you wanted to do to the waiter
And when I said James, he's straight. Your response was doesn't matter
I'm a celebrity
so
Freakin gross also adding that this is not the first time she has addressed this saying that she's even talked to Charles about this
I literally I to I
Had enough respect for you and love for you and care for you to tell you to go and get some help
I told you that this was not good and that you could have your career
Completely destroyed following my video. Yes. We saw a massive reaction
The-the-the unsubscription started happening, but it hit a completely different level
Once James Charles made a video of his own and in that eight-minute video called Tati. He apologizes to Tatia James
Westbrook, um
I'm sorry for
Everything that is going on everything that I have put you through
Over the past few weeks also regarding his interactions with men. He says and I've learned
the hard way
about um
Ways that I can interact with boys that I'm interested in and also ones that I should or shouldn't be talking to
this is a conversation that
I know a lot of people are uncomfortable with and
it's saying that I
Should have been a far more careful with bringing into
The public eye and it was after that video where the subscription is just really dropped it also resulted in a lot of big names
Unfollowing him a lot in the community reacting to all of this new this including PewDiePie
Who said he didn't want to defend James Charles so that he didn't see how this of all scandals was causing this massive fallout
He's facing the biggest sub drop that anyone's ever faced on YouTube. Look at all the controversies that has happened on YouTube
it's this really like
that
Comparable which to that note I will say each individual industry each individual kind of genre on YouTube
It has its own individual bubble right like with this controversy
We are seeing this massive drop with James Charles, but when we look to Logan Paul when he had his controversy
He actually went up a million subscribers. So I get the confusion but different industries have different reactions
Also adding that while he does not feel that he fully has a grasp on the whole situation
He doesn't trust Tottie's motives and posting this publicly thinking that she should have handled this privately with James instead of exposing him online also
bringing up
The Totti said that James was talking to drama channels
Which she said was one of her reasons for making this public regarding that allegedly
This is what James said to one of those drama channel. And Felix said that that made him question Tati
I'm not here to defend James Charles. I just don't think what Todd did did is that justified?
He also brings up
The age difference Itachi is 37 James is 19 he feels that it's weird for someone to drag a teenager like this
I think that he felt that toss he was putting herself on this pedestal wall painting James to be a villain
Anything said it's weird that the internet rewards this behavior
but I would also add here and this is kind of more just a
Personal note everyone in the industry talks and I have I have never heard an ill word about Tati Westbrook
I've only ever heard how kind
Dedicated supportive. She has been so I feel like something must have really really pushed her to actually go public
I'm Charles and his apology not
Contesting anything also really really solidifies that for me but keep in mind that little part there is just my personal
reaction
but still with all that said there were a good number of people that said well this still falls short regarding all the stuff with
James Charles and
heterosexual men right that that is the true focus and that is where there is the most outré the regarding that there are videos from
young men who talk about their
interactions with James Charles one by the name of gage talking about James Charles pressuring trying to manipulate him regarding his
Uncertainty about his sexuality James then
James then saw this as an opportunity to
Manipulate me as a person who
May or may not have been trying to
figure things out about their sexuality
After the fact of telling him that I was straight multiple times he then started to begin
Putting a little bit of pressure on me
of getting to know me without
Like disregarding the fact that I told him I was straight because as you all know this person
99.9 maybe even a hundred percent of times goes after
heterosexual men he paints a picture of James Charles blocking him when he doesn't get his way when gage says no after I said,
no, he got mad again and
Blocked me on everything. He talks about James Charles subtweeting him when he doesn't get his way he
proceeded to get extremely upset with me because of that and
kind of trying to play
his emotions and
Push his emotions onto me to kind of guilt me into trying something
That I didn't want to do
so after I denied
Any like any of that?
He I guess went to Twitter again. There's also another young man that goes by the name Sam
He appears to actually be the waiter from that dinner that was mentioned at the beginning in his video
He says at that time, you know
He didn't know who James Charles was but he recognized his face after that night
His sister convinced him to DM James Charles the next day
My sister convinced me to direct message James Charles and I did Sam noting that at this time
He was bicurious as James invites him to his hotel
Goes end up making out this ends up leading to a situation where Sam later says to James that he's straight
You see text messages where it appears that James Charles is saying I'm confused you're saying you're one thing then another there's only that conversation
Appears to get to a point where James Charles says that Sam is not straight. He didn't think that I was straight. He told me
you're not straight like I
The
Udn conversation right but then Sam's video goes to a place that I don't know if it's legal Sam shows a recorded FaceTime
conversation that he had with James Charles which if he recorded that in Seattle, Washington
Would actually be illegal because that is a two-party consent
State which may or may not be the reason that video has been deleted, but it's still of course on the internet now
But all we see in that FaceTime is James Charles acknowledging that yes
He was talking to gage at the same time in addition to that
We saw people small and large talking about their alleged
Interactions with James Charles this including the likes of zara larsson who tweeted and cackling because he hit up my boyfriend in the DM several
times knowing damn
Well, he's straight anthony mrm tweeting when I met James Charles two years ago in a hotel room at playlist live
He was not only rude as fuck
but he was visibly trying to get one of his intoxicated straight friends to cuddle with him to the point where his friend had to
Say James fucking stop having nothing has changed and there are more claims and allegations out there
But a lot of them are from these channels that I haven't been able to verify yet one of the biggest
Reactions and one of the reasons people have been using that word Predator is something that Geoffrey start tweeted out Jeffery tweeted
There is a reason that Nathan banned James Charles from ever coming over to our home again
There's a reason why I haven't seen him since Glam life guru's birthday in February. He is a danger to society
Everything Tati said is 100% true and in a tweet to Jeffery stars, brother who wrote why is your brother a predator?
Why'd you really move back to NYC?
Exactly. Shut the fuck up
But those tweets have since been deleted which may or may not be connected to a tweet from Tati Westbrook
Which said or won't be a video tomorrow? My heart is still too heavy
I feel like I need to remind you that we can hold truth and inspire change without grabbing on to hate honor blessings
Don't abuse them celebrating pain will only bring it to your door. Love you guys
See you soon. But ultimately as of recording this video that is where we are. Of course, this is a still developing situation
like I said at the beginning where I'm definitely trying to
simplify things as far as my reactions to all of this a lot of it just because I'm so
disconnected from this community has to do with with more the industry and more than numbers involved right part of the question for me is
Is this something that James Charles can bounce back from maybe this is an obvious hit
I mean his apology video is now one of the top 10 most
Disliked videos on the website also part of the backlash here
Is that a lot of people thought James Charles?
Reaction and apology seemed very fake but there were still hundreds of thousands of people that hit that like button
So this might not be an end of a career but a maiming a potential bounce-back
historically for someone to kind of come back from a
really bad experience and obviously
I don't want to equate all past situations to one another but one of the common threads in someone's Redemption arc has been Shane Dawson's
Involvement, although in this situation. I don't know how likely that is while all of this was happening
We saw Shane Dawson tweet and praise Tati westbrook's vitamins
and of course whenever there's a creator in a position like this where they've been
Drastically injured there is always the possibility for more and more stories to come out whether they are legitimate or not
And that's not to spread down. We've just seen examples of both in the past
And so now we're at a point where people are waiting to see if more and more stories come out and something we've been seeing
More and more people ask some questionable
Why did no one talk about this publicly?
Before right not the boys are being pursued but the other big creators out there if this was known behavior
why is it seemingly only after he's been bleeding hundreds of thousands and then millions of subscribers were people sounding off or was it just
Another case of people being scared that a James Charles was so big that they would get crushed
but with all that said this is the part of the story where I passed the question off to you my goal here isn't to
Make or break anyone it's to try and boil down to this situation as much as possible and then hear from you
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Alyssa Milano's actress Alyssa Milano
if you do not know spark outrage this past Friday because of a tweet that she sent and the tweet in question called for a
Sex strike in response to restrictive abortion laws sweet reading until women have legal control over our own bodies
We just cannot risk pregnancy. Join me by not having sex until we get bodily autonomy back and that's we came days after
Georgia became the fourth state in the United States this year to ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected and Alyssa Milano
Expanded on her tweet and what she's aiming to accomplish - The Associated Press on Saturday saying we need to understand how dire the situation
Is across the country it's reminding people that we have control over our own bodies and how we use that a lot
Also noting that women have historically withheld sex to protest or advocate for political reform according to the AP
she cited how iroquois women refused to have sex in the
1600s as a way to stop unregulated warfare and adding most recently
She know that Liberian women used a sex strike in 2003 to demand an end to the long-running civil war now unsurprisingly
There was a lot of people who took issue with the strike the tweet in question arguing that it assumes that sex is only enjoyed
By men and the woman's body shouldn't be used as commodity
They're also people confuse as how this would be effective
The idea being that if a woman was willing to be a part of a sex strike like this
Most likely whoever the man in their life was they probably have a similar belief
So why withhold or attack that man, although it should be noted that that backlash, right?
that wasn't a
Universal reaction the strike did receive some support from fans as well as fellow actress Bette Midler who joined with a tweet of her own
also interestingly enough some of those that were in support of
Mohan OS move end up being support from conservatives and pro-life activists who co-opted the movement Candace Owens writing
Yes ladies leave a terrible bondage appropriation to us horrible conservative others writing great idea abstinence is the best way to prevent unwanted
pregnancies as far as the criticism
the tweet Alyssa Milano says that it doesn't bother her because it's getting people to talk about the war on women as far as how
Long this strike should last she said people have to determine that for themselves her part
She says she hasn't decided yet how long she will go without sex reportedly telling the AP
I mean, I don't know I sent a tweet last night. I haven't really thought much past that this morning on the note
Oh, yes. She started a conversation
Yes, I do agree. I do feel like it's a derailed conversation
Now, for example, this isn't the only protest there are kind of more direct to the point protests happening
In fact last week Milano herself and several others in the film industry
Responded to this heartbeat bill by threatening to pull productions from the state unless the law was overturned and that of course is of note
Because as we've talked about with other stories if you try to change anything
You usually have to affect the money when it comes to Georgia's film industry
It generates billions in revenue and his home to anywhere between thirty to forty productions at any given time and that includes massively popular shows
Like stranger things and The Walking Dead, but as far as if that protest or anything else will actually lead to some sort of
reversal in Georgia that remains to be seen I
personally
Do not believe so as it right now it is set to go into effect as of January
2020 and so right now we're gonna have to wait to see but of course like with everything we talked about I'd love to know
Your thoughts on them. What are your thoughts on the sex strike the industry strike?
Do you think anything will actually happen before January 2020 any no thoughts
I'd love to hear from me and then let's talk about why in San Francisco a freelance journalist home was raided this past Friday because
The story has a lot of moving pieces
I'm gonna give you some background info to put it all into context this past February the former elected public defender for San Francisco
Jeff Adachi died at the age of 59 officials say they began to have trouble breathing and became unresponsive
Prompting his friends to call 9-1-1 reportedly paramedics attempted CPR
But they ultimately took a dodgy to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead
Leeson quickly released a statement telling the public that they're still trying to determine a cause of death but a no foul play was suspected
however
within days of his passing to media outlets so that they had received a copy of the incident reports surrounding a da cheese death and
That included salacious details like that
Adachi was with a woman other than his wife when he collapsed and that that woman was left alone at what was considered by police
to be a crime scene for hours following the San Francisco police insisted that the report was leaked did not authorize be released adding that
They would be investigating the improper conduct which then brings us to Friday made sense when freelance journalist
Brian Carmody woke up to police trying to break into his home as it turns out
This freelancer was the middleman innocent incident and he had connected with the anonymous source who had obtained the police
Documents which Carmody ultimately sold the more mainstream media sites
So what exactly?
happened to Carmody
according to reports
Carmody woke up at around eight o'clock in the morning on Friday to several police officers trying to break down the gate outside of his
Home with a sledgehammer
I then went outside to see what the commotion was and he willingly opened his gate to the cops
Officers then immediately plays comedy and Compson produced a search warrant that showed that they were there to investigate his home for stolen or embezzled
property the journalist saying that he was detained from around 8:30 in the morning until 3:00 in the afternoon and that while cuffed police had
obtained a second search warrant for his news room and when the cops finally left he said they took his notebooks computers cameras phones and
Even his fiancee's iPod from her college days as well as a thumb drive
CDs in the song after police report about adachi death found inside a safe a spokesman for the San Francisco Police
Say the search warrant was quote conducted as part of a criminal investigation
into the leak of a da cheese police report and adding that actions are one step in the process of investigating a potential case of
Obstruction of justice along with the illegal distribution of a confidential police report and in addition to all of this
Representatives from the FBI confirmed that two agents were there during the raid and they insisted that it was only to interview the journalist
but
Carmody says that a few weeks prior to Friday's incident two officers had stopped by his home and asked him to reveal his source which
He refused to do now with this story
One of the big questions is well, why do the cops care like the real reason?
Well comedy is quick to note that as a freelancer selling reports or photos and videos
He's obtained to media outlets is his main source of income and that is actually not why he's in the center of all of this
since February when a dodgy died police and city officials in San Francisco have been fighting over how the
Investigation has been handled. You see while he was the public defender
Adachi was known as a police watchdog really cracking down on misconduct and justice reform in addition to the iffy relationship he had with police
ABC 7 had reported that just three weeks before his death thought she was in the midst of trying to fire the medical examiner's director
Of operations for lying in a homicide case who of course ended up being assigned as the lead investigator on a da cheese death
So you have a lot of people saying that's a major red flag carmody telling the LA Times with all the salacious details and leaked
Reports surrounding Adachi his death. His only goal was to confirm the truth and it just so happened that during his search for it
He managed to obtain the report. No big thing to note. Is that outside of just this singular story?
This is kind of just the latest incident in a never-ending battle
Which is why we saw the Society of Professional Journalists releasing a statement condemning the race
I can attack on the rights of one journalist as an attack on the rights of all journalists
San Francisco's wrongful actions against carmody threatened fundamental journal stick freedoms
which are vital to a functioning democracy you all seen a
GoFundMe started to help replace equipment taken by the police at the same time
You have some arguing that he shouldn't be protected is John Hamasaki argue?
He's a member of the city's police commission and a defense attorney
Carmody wasn't reporting on the document but rather trying to sell it to other news agencies. That's not journalists
But at the same time you have comedy's attorneys saying these packages he does video and the documents that support the video
He's done everyday by freelancers. It's not anything unusual. It's how the news is done
But ultimately that is where we are with a story right now
It's gonna be interesting to see how it developed and of course like with everything we cover on this show in those comments down below
I'd love to hear your thoughts. And that's where we're going to end. Today's show
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