Christmas tree is up two weeks too early
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this week I got things to do gotta go
pick up food Brooke real quick just
because I brought up the Christmas tree
yes I don't know if anybody at any of
the listeners at home know but when was
usually when you got your Christmas tree
as a kid well we didn't get it we would
have a fig tree so okay getting it down
out of the Attic yeah when would one
would it be up and ready for
presentation 23rd 23rd December 23rd hmm
now ironic because growing up was always
December 23rd when you had kids in the
house now my parent my parents have no
kids in the house but she the trees up
already but just guarantee of course
they're also putting up like a little
three-foot tree that goes on top of a
table and then on a seven-foot tree yeah
yeah yeah I'm sure that's a whole other
pain in the ass also you know um it was
probably a bit of a bitch ass kid and I
just feel like I just like mom I don't
feel like the ornaments are supposed to
go there I think you're supposed to I
would I would not wanted to deal with me
either so my family my family was
probably somewhere around that that 20
to 23rd range as well just because we
would happen to look at the calendar and
just be like oh shit Christmas is next
yeah here's the difference between our
two families though that tree could be
down by the 31st when would the Baker
tree come down I don't know when's Arbor
Day
March yes oh you know April hey April
somewhere around there yeah it's Harbor
Day rolls are you like the tree still up
we should have you wait until all the
pine cones fall off of it and then you
just kick it into the backyard like 300
style then it just all returns to Earth
as it had before you know yeah it's nice
wipe it but we headed in front of the we
had like the French doors right open the
French doors just kick it out into the
backyard well you know make it be an
example for the rest of the trees you
better shape up this is what we do if
you don't if you don't behave whenever
it's at all did you like drop kick it
with the ornaments I mean eventually we
take the ornaments off the problem is
that a couple times like we we were so
late in the process of getting the tree
that like we would do themed trees they
would just make it easier so we had like
a homeless tree once okay where we had
like you know like random like hubcaps
like on the tree and like a sign that
was just like we'll be merry for food or
something like that
okay and there was like a Baltimore tree
where like we put a hole put like an
Orioles cap on it and you know various
Ravens and Oriole things around the tree
and so not real ornaments you decorated
the tree yeah I mean like the ornaments
for where if we got there at least three
days ahead of Christmas it was Christmas
Eve when we're putting our tree up then
we're just gonna do whatever the fuck
yeah whatever makes it look like there's
things on the trip do you think there
are trees up in Maryland right now oh
yeah like people have their training for
your fam over no absolutely no yeah
because my family has changed for
whatever reason the tree again a little
two and a half foot 3 foot trees up also
I don't think my mom takes the
decorations off of it I'm pretty sure it
just goes up in the attic so it's just
sitting up in the attic ready to go and
then she's like dancehall get the tree
down and he goes up and they carefully
brings down the completed tree you know
ten years into this uh they'll be broken
ornaments they'll finally have to get
any warning on it but sorry that's
probably part of it too okay by the way
uh we have a what we don't have a policy
rob has a policy in this house which is
this thing that's in every house I have
feel free to decorate all you want for
christmas however the tree nor the
decoration shall go up before December
first I don't care that Thanksgiving is
on the 22nd the earliest day could
possibly go up if I see decorations up
before the first they're going on the
freeway yeah and I don't care if I don't
live next to the freeway anymore I won't
take them to the freeway and throw them
on the freeway just for shits and
giggles love it but uh Rachel controlled
herself no no decorating was done until
December there was light light
preparation for decorating I started to
see the encroachment the tree came out
and I was like don't make me throw that
on the freeway it's just gonna sit here
until the first okay you know the rules
I think she was worried that they would
be doing the balcony cleaning during the
during the first yes so is she like
pulled it out on the first it would just
pick oh you can't walk on here yet oh my
god you mean I wait till the second to
put the tree up now but it's very
festive in here and I hate it I'm sure
I'll get stuck at this before the end of
the Christmas season and just lock
myself away in my room and never talk to
anybody
humbug his way all the way until the new
year yeah so I figured out what it is
though so people at work said well if
you really are the Grinch then that must
mean that you come around by the time
Christmas gets here and I said no I
realized and you may get this reference
our listeners may not get this do you
remember the night Santa went crazy by
we're done yeah of course they do
I am a mixture of the Grinch right up
until that heart starts to swell and
then I'm the night Cena went crazy and
I'm barbecuing listen and he's just like
chicken yeah turn and Rudolph into
pudding or whatever he says there's
bloody guts everywhere in here sausage
yes yes Rudolph in the reader so that's
me that is Who I am
God in the FBI
because first of all there was a bunch
of again 20-somethings who at my work
who had no idea what that was and I was
like oh well we're gonna listen to this
yeah again remember I did that with
somebody recently - it's just like you
never heard of Weird Al Yankovic and
then I played it and then had to like
sort of like look at that like explain
them in like a way that like how you
don't expect that things would change so
much in your own life that you would
have to explain why the kitschy fun of
Weird Al was weird like just like if I
was to play like blink 182 for someone
now they'd just be like so this was good
I mean oh it wasn't ever like good it
was just enjoyable it was it was
different it was bad like Fast and the
Furious movies yeah we know it's bad for
us but we're gonna do it anyway so I
will say imagine my dad born in 1937
where no monoplanes monoplanes probably
were around and in his lifetime he's
gone from biplanes being very the first
thing you saw was a bomber mm a military
bomber that didn't crash-land but
emergency landed in a field and they all
the entire town ran out to look at it I
think how does that thing get up in the
air all these flying machines and then
in his lifetime he has seen you know I
don't know Neil Armstrong walk on the
fucking moon when he's in his 30s and 32
years old and then from there like
commercial air travel just becoming a
regular thing would it be funny if like
right at the end like you you get a
nominated for the Oscars or something
like that and you're just like I'm
sitting on a private jet for you dad
don't worry about it yeah you're gonna
fly in comfort out to LA yeah and then
he fly like that's his last flight like
goes from biplanes to private jets yeah
it's uh quite a life I mean you had to
live for another 40 years for that to
happen or or you finally get nominated
Virgin Galactic oh yeah there really
gets to go into space yeah exactly the
first plane you saw was a bomber and you
couldn't believe it actually flew and
then you take a flight you go to space
bitch yeah anyway oh yeah so Christmas
is horrible and I hate it
we have a real tree
work I'm allergic to evergreens it's
made work super-fun and if we never talk
about Christmas again I'll be happy so
you have to have a real tree to cover up
the smell of post Malone when he comes
by uh this woman doesn't come by
although I did enjoy today opposed I saw
that said Frederick Engels and post
Malone apparently you're twins I never
noticed that before and they are
Frederick Engels you don't know that is
but he co-wrote Communist Manifesto okay
but no unless uh he posed when it
doesn't come by but no we they insisted
on having a real tree even though I
pleaded that maybe some people would be
allergic to it and there's a mess with
you know they didn't know I said you
know like people have weird allergies
and we don't allow cats
we're dog friendly office but not a lot
of people I know who are allergic to
dogs and people who are can take a pill
and generally be fine
but there are a lot of people who are
allergic to like certain plants and the
idea of bringing a a huge plant inside
like that knowing full well I'm allergic
and I just didn't want to thank Ely
don't do it for me weird flex and
they've got the real tree anyway so now
I'm just miserable all day already
miserable but also miserable because the
evergreen tree so Christmas kids suck I
turned for a second and Monday Night
Football had different colored uniforms
just like what the hell happens in the
game leader was they decided to deport
this boy we're just gonna replay the
Rams yeah there's a better game anyway
so if we never talk about Christmas
again I'll be happy with it cuz uh who
cares about Christmas all right then
sports balls hey nice thanks for giving
me
2-shot 2-shot right at the end I was
good yeah I I know the the movement of
the I can't hear it believe me
yeah I can see it moving so here you
talk a little sports well I speaking of
being sick and allergic to evergreens
need to blow my nose are you going to
excuse yourself for this purpose right
anywho uh I feel like the first thing we
need to start off with just really
quickly up top is the fantasy football
league that we've been briefing you on
all season long ended its regular season
tonight with this final Redskins Eagles
game and unfortunately it looks like
your good old friend Cory isn't gonna
make the playoffs despite having a very
quality team III think I put together a
really good squad and they they just
didn't didn't do it for me this year and
sometimes that happens and look at the
draw sometimes meanwhile stupid everyone
hates old Rob is coasting into the
playoffs with a first-round bye usually
look at the draw but that drawl that
you're talking about it's called a draft
and we picked and I would I'd paid
really well and I would like to just
just to put it out there the the four
running backs that I had drafted in the
draft itself yes were Melvin Gordon who
is one of the top scoring running backs
this season yeah yeah running back this
season yeah I had Sonny Michelle who
went from nobody to RB - yeah Dalvin
cook who whenever he played and whenever
you felt it was a tremendous person to
have in your ride up never a good thing
to say when you're talking about fantasy
and and I had a I had taken a flyer on
the Nick Chubb
but unfortunately couldn't hold on to
him because of roster construction at
some point I needed that roster spot
yeah and he wasn't there yet I was like
oh pick him up before he gets good again
and then the week I dropped him is the
week where it's just like the Browns
were like hey Nick chubbs on this team
we start giving the ball to him yeah
yeah you know but then I replaced it
with people like Gus Edwards
like a madman and we're in for the
ravens and I don't know my my my hope
was to collect III feel like talent-wise
this was one of the best fantasy teams
I've ever owned I've ever I've ever been
in charge of and it just so happens
sometimes you have like all these
players and you're feeling really
confident about it and it just doesn't
work your way and that's the break
sometimes as sort of how fantasy goes
and sometimes it does like this fantasy
baseball team that I had this last year
like I looked at it every day and I was
just like god this is a really talented
squad and nobody else seems to have like
as good of a squad all the way around
his idea yeah yet why are they playing
like shit yeah but I'd get injuries and
stuff like that where I get somebody
who's like underperforming but I'm like
you know it wasn't Noah syndergaard but
I could be like well I can't take Noah
syndergaard out of my he's who am I
gonna possibly replace it and then he'd
go out there and get shelled and I'd be
like oh fuck me well some of us have
that problem others of us are tied for
first
after having barely paid attention over
the last three weeks and going into the
400 point lead yeah 100 point lead in
all means nothing wants the playoffs
there oh yes and I gotta start paying no
I don't you as you pointed out earlier I
don't have to pay attention this week
because I do get a bye
the first be going the playoffs I don't
know if I have a game do I have a game
at all no I just don't play I mean I
think they just calculate your points
but don't apply it to anything yeah I'd
like to know how much I'm really gonna
go into the next round with like points
against versus points for my point I
mean less 400 right now yeah yeah I mean
you you're gonna be able to see the
standings at the end of it also so and
but like you said I mean everything
falls apart next week and it doesn't
really matter I haven't really been
playing paying attention and I really
should Thursday came and went and I
realized that Cole Beasley was still in
one of my lineups and I'm like wow all
right that was not a really good choice
but yeah that's a we'll see we'll see
what happens I don't know who I'm
competing against in the playoffs I
think the last three weeks I've had not
really great teams to play against and I
just wasn't paying attention I gave them
late wins Widgeon ironically may have
ruined your playoff chances I may have
spoiled in Reverse by letting some
bad teams win by just not paying
attention my life I mean honestly I I
knew that I needed to win out at a
certain point and last week when I lost
I knew it was gonna be very difficult of
course I did the the reconstruction yes
of what would have happened if I had
optimal line if we were in a best ball
League yeah which I know would be tough
because then I'd have to calculate
everyone else's points to see with it
yeah but I mean like hypothetically if
it was the best ball League and everyone
else started who they normally start I
would have been 11 and 3 with like all
these fucking points yep it still is now
and I have though I'd still be up I
think plus 150 where you want 50 over
what I had calculated yes yeah okay so
I'm currently plus 150 over what you had
calculated you included this week then
right well yes but you also had you know
D linden markable team this season that
people were just like I don't understand
your drafting what are you doing here
this is what I'm doing folks I also pay
attention lightly so I haven't made no
moves all my my lineup whatsoever except
for to make sure that all the roster
spots are full right or that by people
get replaced with gone by people yeah
yeah for the last four weeks except for
I saw Spencer where I saw the agreement
was out no Mike Spencer where just
because fuck these guys and I got him
and he's sitting on my bench right now
so yeah enjoy that if anybody needs a
running back for the first round the
club ono we're past the tree by the line
yeah can't you're eight right I liked
how I picked up like four quarterbacks
to to fuck everyone to yeah
at one point had spots open I was like
fuck everyone then I was ruin my season
but thankfully Big Ben is basically just
like a tackling dummy and Matariki get
hurt he's hurt and gets back up and get
starts playing again I was right back
yeah so anyway yeah we'll report back in
two weeks on Rob get slaughtered
probably playoff matchup as usually
happens in this league yep into the real
football though yes we we sort of
tiptoed around it the last couple weeks
with Lamar in the starting job but right
now seems like the time we have to have
the real Lamar Jackson Joe Flacco
conversations yes because it looks like
Joe would be healthy enough to play
this weekend against Kansas City and
that Lamar who is coming off of three
straight wins could possibly see action
maybe do the split thing that they were
doing before I mean even if Jo started
they would probably still have Lamar go
out there you know as like they had
before like gadget hopefully more than
that well yeah but I mean nothing says
that gadget play is coming more than
Lamar Jackson on the wheel yeah they go
out the Marg acting like alright the
flea flicker or Statue of Liberty
something's coming the liberation of
Puerto Rico option play yeah I don't
know I mean what we what are you feeling
are you camp Joe or are you camp Lamar
at this point I think that there is
something to be said about Joe or Lamar
bringing a certain energy to this team
yeah that was missing but what I worry
about is that without Joe and with Lamar
in there this this has a chance of just
becoming like a track meet where you
know Kansas scores 40 points and the
Ravens have no chance whatsoever been
times in my fandom of of many teams
especially the Ravens where sometimes
I'll be like if they score 21 oh the
Superbowl first Superbowl year mm-hmm
it's like if this other team score is 14
points we're fucked
yeah the defense was good enough detail
keeping them under 14 but I was just
like if it so happens that the the
Ravens don't score or they that we give
up more than 14 points like I don't know
if our offense can cover this yeah and
that would be the the worry that you
would have with a Lamar Jackson team as
opposed to a Jo team where Jo were you
worried that the powerful offense behind
Kyle Boller wouldn't be able to put up
14 points no that was before no cowboy
or he was saying no it was dopher Oh
Trent Dilfer
yeah went through like five quarterbacks
in here we had like Grbac and still fir
and Tony banks and Chris Redmond and
like a whole bunch of different people
came murderers row of
there was a for weeks where Matt Stover
was the only person who scored it was
masked over in defense where the only
people's gourd touch their yep
something's working but I've been like
that's gonna you know so obviously for
the Ravens have any chance against Casey
they need to be have the defense working
for them yeah Casey out of the end zone
but then also we need the offensive
firepower to like stand up to them a
little bit and I just I don't see the
Ravens offense under Lamar even though
it has like a different energy and feels
like it's more productive is also very
slow it's like these long huge
methodical drives down the field but
that keeps Casey off the field yes but
it also if we're ending up with a punt
or a field goal at the end of it and not
a touchdown then mm-hmm I mean Joe has
Lamar has one passing touchdown since so
like Erie rushing touchdowns at one
passing touchdown since he joined the
Ravens so you weren't under the
assumption that we ever became the
starter I mean we have the choice
between a slow and methodical Lamar
Jackson who's gonna run it down the
field and maybe score points maybe not
hang a high-powered high-flying Joe
Flacco driven offense that we have seen
every game before Joe went down with an
injury we we have seen more of the
high-flying offense with Joe the deep
downfield offense that we all are so we
just got to get Lamar to start throwing
for some penalties so you're saying
right so they throw to I don't pass I
don't want that happening but you know I
will I will happily take you know a 35
yard touchdown to somebody you know that
so like is tell we might as well not
have all these wide receivers that we
signed if we're not gonna be able to
throw downfield to him you know tight I
grab Lamar I don't know of one Marc hand
throw that's the that's the problem I
mean like I know that he has the arm
he's gifted he's he's capable of
throwing at an NFL level what I don't
know is whether or not he has a
understanding of what is happening
behind the first layer of the defense
okay well he might be able to read
really well right now is what's coming
in like what the defensive line the
corners at the edges maybe the
linebackers and how they're moving but
something tells me that he just doesn't
have safety realization yet like he he
does he can't read the safeties like Joe
can so let's go for well first of all
Joe's not throwing downfield either he's
dumping off it into five or ten yards so
let's just let Lamar do that same thing
why not
what visit the Joe Flacco era I'm gonna
say Joe Montana the Joe Flacco era is
over mm-hmm let's just let him go let's
just let him see on this side let's you
how about this you want somebody who can
read Safety's let's bring in um glass
glass bones what's his name Oh bones
yeah oh gee three now our Jeep rg3 yes
let's bring in RG three not quite the
same but he can throw downfield yes he's
got experience reading safeties yes but
he's not as good as Joe yeah but Joe
isn't as good as the Joe you're
picturing in your head but your if you
put a play Joe this this week one week
from now you're gonna be sitting here
like these motherfuckers who don't know
how to throw a ball downfield the
problem so here's I think the number one
thing that we need to consider when
we're talking about Joe Flacco is not
it's it's an everything that is being
lumped on Joe is not necessarily Joe's
fault there had been awful awful
offensive play calling that had happened
prior when Joe was in in the game and we
fired the OC right no he's still there
yes okay so there's no reason that Joe
can't can't give the ball to Gus Johnson
like Lamar Jackson has had the
availability to do them and then have
some actual running game going on in
that way and then opening up the field
for the for the receivers Lamar has
three straight victories
yeah found a way to win against three
crappy teams
yeah and Joe has losses against crappy
teams earlier in the year so what it's
it's a very reasonable discussion with
no right answer I believe I think you
were gonna be sitting here a week from
now saying fucking Marty mourning wick
why why would he tell Joe to check down
he's not telling Joe to check down Joe
doesn't read safeties well either
you just there's also slightly better
there's also the the possibility that
Joe goes into this game and then throws
to early interceptions and then is bench
for Jameis what that James bench for
Lamar Jackson yeah and just you know
that's it are you bet are you as Joe
Flacco happier with the opportunity and
failing or just being sad getting paid
for the rest of the year and then
getting out of here retiring well you
want to retire yeah he's done know
somebody somebody will somebody will
throw some money
I mean Buffalo I mean like he could be a
backup somewhere oh yeah Dara Singh
there's a eyes yeah you're Franchot wait
what did he call himself elite elite
quarterback being the backup somewhere
see I think I really I really do think
that that uh the things things would be
considered way different for Joe if
things had been if Joe was drafted to
the Falcons instead of the Ravens yeah
then I think that people would have the
same conversations about him that they
did about Matt Ryan sure but Matt Ryan
had Julio Jones and yeah all these
amazing receivers in this high-powered
offense and somebody who wanted to like
be a high-powered offense yeah and he
had he had a default ease opportunity
and Joe just never had the same oh yeah
Joe and Eve Smith at forty was the best
receiver that Joe ever had
yeah or Anquan Boldin maybe like when he
was 33 or something like this is what I
continue to say about my employees you
are put in a situation and it's not
necessarily the best situation it's
about what you make of it and that's
what we see and Joe I mean what is he
made of it that's really the question he
could have become Matt Ryan Matt Ryan
has some more weapons at the road too
sure but he ended up being Joe Flacco
mm-hmm
there are other quarterbacks who've done
more with less I would say yeah I I
would I think it all comes down to this
if if Joe is healthy enough to play
and he's feeling a hundred percent I
would start him against the cheese if
Joe is not 100 percent
if Joe is 90% but thinks he could give a
go of it
yeah you're sitting out another week I
just would not I would not under any
circumstances start Joe unless he felt
like he was 100% cleared of all issues
and that his hip was not going to be
like if he goes out there and gets hurt
mm-hmm then that doesn't help us any
either so why not just stay with the guy
who has competently been doing the job I
want to see Lamar Jackson versus Patrick
mahomes
I think that that is gonna be the lineup
that we are gonna see for the next few
years
yeah in this game that's what I want to
say but and you know what there is
another guy in the DMV I think could
play a better quarterback this week than
Joe Flacco George HW Bush I know he's
lying in state at the Capitol but I'm
convinced he will do a better job at
quarterback than Joe Flacco was this
week yeah so I was you know it's it's
weird I actually thought that what I
heard the other day that that George
Bush had died I said the first thought
in my head was that didn't happen
already yeah yeah no he's old he was 94
years old oh I know but I think I
confused him with Barbara yeah I think
when Bart I heard Barbara died I was
this like Oh George for whatever reason
in my mind I've convinced myself that
George had died well she might be the
last presidential wife who would ever go
by mrs. George Bush hmm because I feel
like Laura is not a Laura Laura is Laura
yeah we know Hillary's Hillary yeah and
of course Michelle was Michelle right
Milania Milania well when you post news
I don't think something yeah oh by the
way the first lady 970 has new pictures
out there just so you know that's what
we're dealing with right now nude
pictures for the first lady the United
States go ahead 70 74 years the two of
them were married by the way have I told
you right now that you could live to 74
like I guarantee you you you die at the
age of 74 yeah you would take that right
yeah probably I mean like over the
possibility how am I gonna die in a car
accident that yes you know I gonna be
George Bush at 74 no but I'm just saying
in general if I if I promised you 74
guaranteed over
any alternative do I have to live 74
could I just like off myself at some
point if I get done I mean I guess it
you could if you wanted to what am I
like
even mortal insanity the point I was
making is if I don't fight so many
people would say to themselves if I made
it to 74 years old as like a lifetime
yeah I would feel pretty good about
myself and here's the bushes married for
say four years can you imagine spending
seventy four years with the same woman
did you ever hear their love letters
know what he was in the war yeah see
that's a difference we don't have a war
a war we did have marriages like that
because at some point when Jerry shootin
at you and you're just like I may not
get home so I appreciate the letter from
this girl and I'm gonna stick with her
for 74 years now I got nothing
all right there is no war there is no
three-year-old tax like I'm just getting
DM from like 22 year old co-ed come on
hey if I had a Great War I could shut
out all of the 23 year old coeds and
just stick with the love letters from
home oh and of course he was banging
hookers in the South China Sea so Wow
there was there was a lot of one of the
things that that seemed to like crest
and go away pretty quickly was the
George George HW Bush a sexual assault
are not as salt allegations but like the
inappropriate grab a saying it yes from
those types of things it was a different
time no I was like it's so funny how we
we will put a microscope to literally
anything and I don't want to put a
microscope to it 94-year man's penis a
well put a microscope to anything but
then George Bush dies that it's just a
different time we slap a slap of
Secretary's ass like it was it was
considered okay then when you were
George Bush I mean it was it was he was
business drunk legally allowed to drive
it's fine
the it's I wonder if we'll ever have
another it's really him and Adams that
are like with the same sort of pedigree
of elected official miss you know what I
mean mm-hmm okay
well I'm saying he was an ambassador of
China share head of the CIA yeah was he
in Congress think he started out Inc
honey sir in Congress yeah from Texas
which is why George went back to Texas
yeah
his father was a senator from
Connecticut or something like that
Prescott or Preston I don't Prescott
Bush Prescott Bush yeah and then vice
president president mm-hmm it's pretty
good resume yeah it's pretty
father-to-be father of two governors
yeah
president future president wait wait
yeah where's the what's the other Bush
Jeb JEB George and I don't remember the
other there's another one is there a
fuckup brother is there like a Billy
Bush related to them Billy Carter was he
Billy Carter no no Bobby no no no was
Billy cuz Billy beard yes yeah yeah yeah
and I think of it it was a it was I
remember Clinton's stupid brother oh
yeah
Roger Roger yeah yeah yeah there's his
half-brother yeah I mean he had all the
unfortunate looks of Clinton without any
of the styler sure it's a bad
combination
he looked like like a fatter more more
rode hard version of Clinton st. buddy
won't go Hooters later just chilling
fuck out stay in the West but George
George Oh nearly had two sons as
president yeah if Jeb managed to get
those people to clap for the claps
please clap age at least there was more
than one program here more than one
person at your event I do I do a Jaipur
party at least marna Valley had one
enthusiastic guy yeah our day it wasn't
even a bit boozy astok guy was some guy
who was like on the fence and I think
they like talked to him afterwards and
they're just like just how are you and
O'Malley voter now he's just like
probably not but I wanted to hear what
he had to say and I'm really I really
appreciated you took the time yeah thank
you
Thanks I think it's so funny to do that
during that'll actually we're just like
all right fucking enough of the bushes
all right
we had George we had W we're not having
fucking Jeb I don't care what the hell
you tell me we're not having Jeb Oh
Hillary Clinton and by the way you know
what the result of that was Trump that's
what we got thank you thank honestly Jeb
Bush versus Trump who would you take oh
my good
Jeb I really are you really less
corruption corruption under a bush
administration yeah it's it's one of
those like I don't think Jeb Bush would
fuck things up too bad yeah
but I also like would be worried much
like his brother I would be worried that
something like 9/11 would happen during
his time yeah and then there would be
like a rallying around him and it's just
like Jeb knows the answers and it's just
like nobody nobody who's ever in this
position yeah yeah I feel like that
would be like John Adams John Quincy
Adams who just basically was like hey I
got a good resume my dad was president
and I'm just gonna cruise it's gonna
cruise I'm just gonna enjoy the rest of
my life yeah I had nobody run against
him Golden Age of politics yeah one real
party
so George HW Bush sadly died and he's
looking at a long legacy as you said he
has a long resume which just shows that
if you're patient enough and you stick
around and then you you'll eventually
just be in DC for a long time so I mean
I've what do you have to what do you
want to say about him I think that
there's a lot of retrospect that's going
on about about Bush 41 that is both
positive and negative here okay I think
that the positive end of it is that
there's more people sort of realizing
that that Bush was in large part sort of
like the fulcrum point I guess between
the Republican Party of old and the
Republican Party of new where for mmm
certainly from Nixon on there was the
the racist like I hate everyone except
for the white people version of the
Republican Party yeah that was quietly
asked to sit in the corner and be not be
acknowledged but we think we're going to
whenever we have the opportunity we're
going to throw a bone your way yeah but
I mean like you know Bush would if ever
brought up by some racist supporters I'm
like that would would instantly like
yeah unequivocally be like I do not
support that like I am I am NOT you know
you do everything he could to avoid the
David Duke side of the party right
whereas drums come on in and like it
because you'd people every way came it
became tougher at the bush point yeah
and it felt like it was such a for the
politics of the Republican Party at the
time when you go off the wave of Reagan
yeah and then you get into push and then
you're usurped by Clinton and Bush is
the only president in our lifetimes who
served one term yep everyone else was a
two-term president and it really felt
like Bush let down the Republican Party
wait
shift and Clinton came to the middle and
that shifted the Republican Party there
right yeah man but Bush forty I mean he
was wrestling it back Bush was always
more of a moderate Republican if you
will he he he was not as extreme his son
is way more conservative than he was yes
yes
as president yeah obviously he was still
right leaning but I'm saying he was more
this was still in the age where they
were like Clinton being the moderate
Democrat yeah there were there were
legitimate feeling that there was like
sort of a four stages of I also have a
feeling that the party's Bush 43 was way
more way less conservative than we
imagined and I feel like vice is gonna
give us a real big interact on like he's
just a dummy and he was led to this
conservative push right by Dick Cheney
who is very much a very conservative
person yeah very much the wink nod nod
yes we're both racist but I can't be
public about it so yeah just come with I
gotta keep this shit on unwrapped yeah
we're gonna go kill us some Arabs yes
but we can't say that yeah I killed
terrorists
that's what we're doing we uh you see he
has a good and bad legacy I say he's a
war mongering hate the hate person so
fuck him and I'm glad he's dead I much
like McCain I will say this rot in hell
you piece of shit yeah I think there's
an important part of looking back at at
Bush's legacy mmm-hmm
just to use the word as sort of a
catch-all legacy yeah sure
I mean legacy can be good and bad yeah
yeah Hitler has a legacy I'm just saying
that point I didn't want one for mine
that's bad I didn't want you to just go
like oh you fucking use the legacy word
with George Bush I'm gonna know it's a
legacy I I think that what it's giving
us an opportunity to do is to look
within a very select window here between
the early 90s and today where decisions
that were made under his administration
which had consequences have sort of
rounded themselves into a completion by
now let's go so I'm saying let's say in
1983 when Reagan put him in charge of
the NIH study about the new cancer that
was going around the country and neither
Reagan nor Bush use the words HIV or
AIDS at all not in the 1980's and
millions of people died right because
they did not want to recognize a disease
because the major afflicted party were
gay men right and that's why he's a hey
longer no but I'm said I I'm not
disagreeing with that when I'm just
saying that with the with the years that
have passed since he was president okay
and now in this week of mourning where
we're looking back on his legacy and
stuff like that I'm saying that it gives
us a full picture of things like that
whereas at the time people who might
have been on the right side of the issue
the right political side of the issue
were were you know it was a popular
opinion to do not be inclusive of the
gay community
well how about I'm saying that we can we
can see see sort of like
direct the line between the reagan-bush
years and how many people died in the
gay community do data aids and HIV and
everything like that and you know we can
look back on that now with 30 years
essentially of information data and how
things have changed and what could have
been done earlier and stuff like that
it's it's much like what we were
watching the looming tower yeah and
getting back into things that led up to
9/11 type of thing like there when when
W dies
you know he's 72 now it's a lives as
much as his dad so we've lived some die
here's what I'm saying he lives another
20 years in 20 years we might have like
sort of a more full and complete picture
of everything that had happened well al
Qaeda and terrorism anything that's when
they're gonna finally admit that the US
government was behind 9/11 is that what
you're saying the George W Bush was the
unwitting pawn of Dick Cheney really
ordered the I really hope the unnerving
scene and vice is Dick Cheney or during
the attack on the World Trade Center
that will be amazing and I'll enjoy that
but on a 1990 he goes to war in Panama
after aiding Noriega with the drug trade
in the 80s under Reagan and iran-contra
then going to war with him and trying to
kill him in 1990 turning him over to
authorities for trial and then get
telling tacitly telling Saddam Hussein
if you go into Kuwait that's not a
problem American problem and then
sending 500,000 soldiers into Saudi
Arabia to defend it and then kick him
out of Kuwait and invade Iraq start
sanctions in a you end which lasted for
10 years which decimated an entire
generation of Iraqis by the way leaving
troops in Saudi Arabia in 1991 which led
to a little group I don't know if you've
heard of them called al Qaeda
mmm-ah and in fact 9/11 which can be
directly traced back to the Gulf War and
leaving the troops in there all of this
thanks to your buddy george w HW but
also buddy me how about somalia getting
us involved in a half-baked war where
the rules
gave and said that we couldn't actually
fight back American people lost his
stomach for it
Clinton had to pull out but essentially
everything that happened in Somalia was
the fault of Bush he ignored what was
happening in sub-saharan Africa he
ignored what happened what was happening
in the Balkans he beat the Russians and
he said let's go take a fucking victory
lap for beating the Russians beating the
Russians and ending the Cold War but
then completely failed to address any of
the fallout like the economic
consequences of bringing West and East
Germany back together or the falling
apart that was happening in the Balkans
or I don't know nuclear weapons
proliferation coming out of Russia which
by the way he gave zero dollars for
exactly zero dollars when weapons are
being stolen at the same time he was
giving the New World Order speech all of
these things people dying from famine
all over the world people dying from
AIDS all over the world he did nothing
but found time to go to war four times
in four years
Rome is like another than that how's the
play yes so everyone can have a very
positive opinion him oh he was he was a
pilot in World War two and he got shot
down and God wouldn't have been blessed
if he had drowned in the South Pacific
instead of living and having this thing
moving on to being the head of the CIA
we're in the 60s and 70s he led cooze
all over the world taking over
democratically and murdering
democratically elected people and
installing American friendly regimes
which by the way I didn't even get to
that at the beginning I went through all
the shitty things he did as president
mention a little bit about vice
president but let's talk about the ten
years he was the head of the CIA and how
many democratically elected leaders were
murdered at his command because he
decided he wanted somebody who is more
American friendly okay that's the guy
who's I mean I state let's honor this
man you know and you're it's fulfilling
that we as Americans honor him because
if there is one man who defines what
America is today it's George HW Bush
let's depose freely free choice all over
the world let's not care about minority
groups and people who are suffering here
and elsewhere
let's go to war no matter what the
consequences are that is America
so it's only fitting that we honored
George HW Bush a man who stands for all
of those things I like how worked up you
get about it I I would I think that I
literally I literally heard the heard
the news and I think just sort out out
of like you know like much like you get
hit by the hammer and your knee pops up
you're like I was like Kate George HW
Bush dies and was like yeah what a shame
and just moved on with my dad at all
yeah these are younger souther then if I
see a little something in the news about
something that you know like some
reflection of him or something like that
I really didn't probably how many
stories of organizing in the gay
community in 1980s are you seeing in
popular culture now like how many movies
how many books I mean there were there
were several that have come on what like
what give me an example like the band
marches on okay that was from the 80s
yeah no no I'm talking about right now
today oh right now no I mean like right
now today but why are there none today
why there none today because there's
just not as much that that's not
something because every single person
who would be there to write the story
he's dead everyone who was getting
people together who was making marches
happen who was trying to fight for civil
rights and who was trying to fight for
medical care who was trying to fight for
a research is dead all of them are dead
there's higher generation but George HW
Bush got to live to be 94 years old and
what did he say in 1991 if the people
find out what we have done they will
drag us out into the street and hang us
and God willing we'll still do that I
just regret that we missed the
opportunity to do that to him
kick came out of that wheelchair and
dragged him through the streets like
American soldiers were in Mogadishu he
get so worked up so I mean is just
fucking hate monger and he deserves
everything I hope that he suffered I the
saddest part of that whole story was how
quietly he seemed to die I really wish
he would have been more suffering
although maybe they're just you know had
that sweet story and really he was like
thrashing and choking on his own by
yeah that would really make the story
better in my opinion but um anyway so
that's America this is America going
from the 41st presidents of the 45th
President and God willing the 46th
president any day now 46 president Nancy
Pelosi second that Fox News I'm not even
a fan of that just is just so it's clear
I don't want that to happen just I just
like if molar comes up but the the
lectern and the piles of papers and
stuff like that is just like everybody
else
pens Trump all right let's get into it
where should I start what passe when I
started can we start with Nancy Pelosi's
pile man if for whatever reason Trump in
and pence fell and Nancy when the Sean
Hannity would literally explode on there
and they Jesse Watters would stab his
own neck out if that's the case if you
think that they are closing in if
they're closing in on Trump and closing
in on pence do you think he convinces
pence to step down if do they do a um
Agnew
does he do in Agnew they get rid of him
so they can get somebody else in the
line of succession just to stop Nancy
Pelosi for becoming president no III I
think that if if pence were to resign
right now yeah just like how they get
somebody else confirmed yeah they
wouldn't be able to get anyone confirmed
no it's a simple majority and then
Republicans still hold the house Orrin
Hatch just skip a little is just putting
hatch that way technically listen lion
succession yeah we're do all we have to
do is get through two fucking years
Orrin Hatch's president and they swear
to god we'll fix it on the other end we
haven't come up with the plan yet we'll
figure it out later
just give us a word right now you don't
think there's one senior statesman in
the Senate that they could just put I
mean not fucking Mitch McConnell but do
you don't think there's one person that
they could get through like the Senate
is the only one who has to approve him
yeah and it's a simple majority you
don't think they can get no it's not no
it's 50 but 60 no for the vital your
option has been invoked
there is no such thing as a they can
have cloture by a fifty to fifty one
vote and ironically oh no they would
need at least 51 because pence wouldn't
be there to break a tie so they would
need 51 but cloture nuclear option means
that cloture can be brought with a
simple majority vote they're talking
about appointing appointing people all
of the appointments would see if they
directly need 60 because you have to be
greater than a filibuster amount but
vote sure is the vote that shuts down
the filibuster and that's been done by a
simple majority that's what they call
the nuclear option the cloture vote by a
simple majority and that is the rules
for this Senate right now
go ahead research it oh wait wait let's
get a close-up on his face when he
realizes I'm right you don't get to see
this happen whenever there is a vacancy
in the office of the vice president hmm
the President shall nominate a vice
president shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both
houses of Congress is it really yes so
it's not like but okay so if you're
Trump all right I think we need to get
somebody who would get through both the
Republican Senate and the house half
pins do it right now
lame duck your Republican Congress II
lame duck your Republicans oh man get
some pound him in there do you think we
no judges no ball no nothing we need a
new guy here now please
how is how is it not somebody walking
around the west wing right now just
saying like okay listen seriously guys
pants can we do something about this oh
you're a party guy right we'll bring you
back we'll take care of you it's fine
what doesn't just stop down now cuz we
have two weeks we got two weeks it so
we're done and if everybody goes down
this whole ship's going down and Nancy
Pelosi is gonna be here and then they're
literally FoxNews the heads are gonna
explode Fox and Friends is gonna go
purge on everyone see I think I think at
this point Moeller just waits until the
new year but yeah but you have to know
it's just gonna slowly drag out a little
bits and pieces until the new year and
then I honestly I think that they're
playing up he's waiting waiting for the
new house to be set
before he does anything because at the
very least you sit the new house and
then you can have two years of
investigations I don't think he I don't
think he brings him even then because
right now I think he's being political
and right now there is a 50/50 or 5150
we're not pushing any new business
through in the Senate until what
what is Jeff Flake and his compadre say
no no votes until Muller is protected
right yeah
so if you're Muller why would you drop
charges just drag your feet because you
can stop all business in the Senate
until you get your protection
that'll that'll his protection doesn't
mean anything once he releases his
report once he releases his findings
yeah that's sort of lower than whether
an idea stole our job he's not political
and he is political I know he's
political and you don't think Nancy
Pelosi is on the phone
hey Robert next six months that would be
fantastic
yeah it was a good one let's do back to
far-off
right you got the facial expression
right yes
in a perfect world where no one was
political he wouldn't carry we just drop
his findings and be fine but right now
he has the Senate right where he wants
them and he either gets a protection
vote or no business gets done I don't
think he hears about the protection vote
I really don't I don't think you guys I
think oolitic why he doesn't want the
Senate to wait I think he's waiting for
Trump to do something I think he's
turned on the heat and now he's just
sitting there waiting for waiting for
Trump to make some sort of move that
would be the the the end of it all you
know well speaking of the heat we've
found out this week that two of the
Trump's two of the people who struck
deals may have lied one of them
confirmed that he had lied one one if I
convert II did lie the other one may
have lied and then that has caused a new
flip
apparently Cohen is now going to testify
well Cohen has agreed to to help the
Special Counsel counsel's office yes we
don't know if that means testify I would
assume that at some point I would come
to that if it ever went to a courtroom
but PS can someone in the White House
explain to Donald Trump that obstruction
of justice and witness tampering are
things that he needs to avoid right now
because you should not tweet things like
Roger stone finally at least somebody
has the nerve not to testify against me
really yeah I I just did you see Rudy
Giuliani sweet know well he's so he
tweeted something that was like
meaningless but he accidentally treated
it tweeted a link in the middle of it
because he put Trump dot i N to say
Trump period in July yeah
Trump dot i n takes you to a website
that is anti Trump so Giuliani
accidentally treated tweeted a link to
an anti-trump website no I say
accidentally because I assume it was
accidental but maybe Giuliani's just
like now fuck this guy we got to get him
out I don't know sometimes I wonder if
Trump's mind worked like he said to
himself so ineffective assistance of
counsel is something that I can I can go
on an appeal right lady Rudy you need a
lawyer yeah anytime he goes on TV is
like he's not guilty because you talk
too much money how could do anybody got
so much money from Russia be guilty it's
just like oh man my ineffective
assistance of counsel is gonna be so
good I won't see the inside of a prison
that's the most appeal appeal peel
robbery
but I think Trump is a smaller story
this week I think the bigger story is
and I guess we should probably wrap on
this well do a quick stop to the
Baltimore corner at the end but this
will be the last story all of you people
all of you preachy ass people all of you
preachy as motherfuckers who said oh go
out and vote your vote matters you could
make the difference
how you feeling about that today fine if
you have a fine about that mm-hm even
with the news that there Republicans
sincerely stole a seat in North Carolina
sincerely took a seat just voter direct
voter fraud and now they're gonna seat a
Republican congressman and the only
person the only people who could order a
new election are the elected Republican
state board of elections so the people
in charge of the new election are
Republicans also like the guy who won
and they're also elected by the people
if I okay so let me let me let me paint
a hypothetical for you yes got to
respond here your your thought about
voting here let's say it was I was very
anti theme park goes just like I don't
know why anyone would go there expensive
and you could get hurt and there you
know the the food's terrible and you
know a coke cost eight dollars and
anyone who goes there stupid mhm and
then you say like oh well you know I I
want to go to the theme park I'm like
well fine go you do it see how proud you
are of going to the theme park
afterwards and then you go to the theme
park you go to Disneyland and Space
Mountain goes off the rails and you fall
and you become a paraplegic yes and then
I continued going on my leg
well who's right about the theme parks
here I would I would 100 who is Right
who is wrong yes and you're taking the
one example of the time where something
went wrong and you're you're painting it
to be something where as in the end what
might end up happening from all this is
that this does this isn't allowed to
happen again we find a way to fix this
problem and we don't have to worry about
it anymore okay because so many times
the law in many in many cases is
reactive to things that happen mm-hm
people don't think about writing a law
in to like you know you know who is it
that's gonna pass this law the
Republican North Carolina legislature
may be the Republican North Carolina
Senate listen anyone who feels like
public and held Senate
the United States anyone who feels like
their job might be might be taken away
from them if they don't vote a certain
way might might feel some pressure Jose
Huizar yes just leave them leave the bag
with the dollar sign on my desk I'll get
to it later oh by the way just a quick
aside on that one yeah canceled a night
on Broadway really yeah something tells
me that he's not gonna be out in the
public very much as a parent or the
whole thing canceled the whole thing so
to the best of my knowledge so like dude
you you do this thing that's really good
for the community and because you're
about you got quote one thing that we
all really like yeah you got caught with
your hand in the cookie jar and now you
cancel the event that's good for the
community because you can't be there to
show off have your name posted
everywhere yeah again this is what
democracy looks like I hope that you are
enjoying this because again yes in this
pipe dream oh isn't it we find this
problem and we address it except for we
won't because the only people who could
do something about it are the people who
benefit from it and Stacey Abrams is
bringing a lawsuit and the courts gonna
tell them no you need to change it just
like the court can take Carolina you
need to retake your longer it takes
longer for change to happen when when
the powers that be don't want it to
change that's that's clearly obvious
well why are we rushing pool why are we
rushing let's let this good marinate for
the next 10 or 20 years we don't want to
rush this they don't want to rush nude
nudity at the beach God knows I don't
want to rush changing our format of
democracy I'm not saying we can't change
the format of democracy is that you you
need to you need to realize that when
when it's something difficult when it's
something that the powers that be don't
want to have change then it takes a long
time but eventually the will of the
people does come through does it yes
does it yes the will of people being
served right now not right now but in in
the future we will have this issue fixed
you think I think so how how is it going
to be fixed that's my question how's it
gonna be fixed well there's there's many
things that can be done too
this sort of thing from happening again
in the future the last election the
Democrats sued because they said that
the Republicans in gerrymandered the
districts in North Carolina and they won
yeah and did those districts get redrawn
not yet
so four years later another election was
held with the illegal districts because
the judge said you can't have these and
North Carolina said okay but we're not
gonna redraw them yeah do you want
Andrew Jackson I mean there's going to
be a new a new they're gonna have to
redraw them anyway in two years so I
mean maybe or maybe they just
gerrymander them worse I mean good but
then there's gonna be a lawsuit and yeah
you then famously do you know what
Andrew Jackson said about the Supreme
Court know if the Supreme Court justices
would like the law this law to be
changed let them go down here and change
it themselves or enforce it themselves
right that they made their ruling now
let's see them enforce it yes yeah so
none of this matters how many federal
courts have to order things and then
nothing comes of it and by the way in
2020 when we do redistricting for the
first time the Voting Rights Act will
not be in effect for redistricting so we
can do whatever we want
based on right here is a nice black
district well we don't call it the black
district we call it the socio-economic
district a will a one great ninety nine
percent black voters but because the
Voting Rights Act is no longer in effect
especially title one of the Voting
Rights Act then it doesn't matter we can
put all the black people in one district
now we can make it the most odd shaped
district just to get all the black
people in there because God knows we
want a racist next door to be able to
say we don't like black people to the
white voters okay so so let's let's play
a little let's play a little game of the
this thing is perfect just the way it is
is there anything that ever just on its
own without any kind of help or any kind
of influence was just perfect right out
the gate
we are 225 years into this no I'm just
saying so you are trying to it forever
this is that this is the problem is that
democracy is never going to be perfect
and it's always got to be there
always got to be a strive for change and
that change just happens to take a long
time you are people don't like the fact
that that there's some injustice that's
happening right now and we're not going
to be able to feel like there's some
sort of resolution for it for maybe a
decade or more that's why when I when I
brought up George HW Bush and talking
about like now we have a more defined
view of his legacy because we have the
purview of all the things that happened
in the 30 years after he was president
before he died we can see some
resolutions to the things that he did
and things that he did and how that how
they had cataclysmic event consequences
for what happened after him and stuff
like that and how one thing that he did
led to his son being able to be
President and led to you know Palin and
led to Trump and led to this and led to
that and like you there this has never
meant to be it's not supposed to be
perfect it's supposed to be always
worked on that's not true it's the
system I figured with why would we
tinker with this system where we are
tinkering with this system developed and
built by Slavin why would you have
elected representatives if there wasn't
ever a need to tinker with the system
because they are met it's a
representative democracy a House of
Lords
it's a representative democracy that's
why you elect people because known as I
won't vote on everything should happen I
mean like you know you wouldn't have
expected Nixon to write any laws about
the internet when he was a president
because that wasn't around then now you
now know that is a completely different
issue when you're talking about
something completely this didn't exist
and so he couldn't pass law absolutely
you're right no now your buddies
reductio ad absurdum I'm saying no but
I'm saying like did you initially wake
up you wake up before the election
starts and you say to yourself oh
there's no law he can't lose his
election if I commit voter fraud on his
behalf and then you found your loophole
to get him elected now there's a chance
that we can get that changed so that
can't happen again
and there's punishment for a campaign
that in that does that has somebody
working for them who does something
illegal except ex post facto it doesn't
affect that campaign it doesn't affect
that campaign but I can't lose people
but it can
change things for the future and keep it
from happening again except for the only
view who can change it are unwilling to
change it because they benefit from it
that's the point the people right now
are yes or no how long is it gonna take
two generations of North Carolinians
right and get to the point right now
Republicans all across the all across
the government from state houses to the
federal government to both houses of
Congress are are doing everything that
they can to get as much outlandish shit
passed as they can while they can
because they know there's there's a
difference coming when George Wythe when
Bush was elected Bush 41 was elected
yeah
the voting the the the makeup of the
voters was 85 percent white yeah that is
85 percent why now it's down to an
astounding seventy four percent white
but in the next 15 to 20 years that
number could get to fifty or could get
lower now population wise yes voter wise
now it's not we don't we don't know we
don't know for sure which way it's going
I'm just saying that there's there's
there's massive changes in in in periods
of time that seem like they're forever
but in the long scheme of human
experience or not as long as listen old
chap I know that Parliament the pass and
all of the kinds of these taxes the King
King seems like he doesn't care at all
but why would we rush off and try to do
something stupid like creating our own
country we need to let some time pass
and after a while all of these problems
will go away I promise you that why
let's not rush off and tried it with
sharing with our heads how long how long
pass between ten years yeah
the first tax act and the revolution
were ten years apart okay we are you met
didn't happen ten minutes apart from you
as you aptly pointed out George Bush
happened 30 years ago right I could have
talked I could have I could have had
insight on to undo bush ten years after
he passed as well P an years after he
was out of office as well if I see it
and we had that same statement where I
said now we can look back on his legacy
if he had passed away in 2003 or
something like that I mean it would have
been different because we'd be having
that conversation with his son in the
White House but I'm saying like
hypothetically we could be having the
same sort of conversation where we could
say that you know these these acts that
he did contributed to the deaths of
people in the gay community or you know
things that he did here have furthered
the acts of terrorism that influenced
the world of beyond it like you know we
would be able to see these things it's
still what happened within those 10
years it does they're they that I think
always it's always I'm talking about if
you want if you want it fixed you have
to do something about it in 10 years I'm
talking about it also took three months
for you to contact your friend in
Baltimore when you lived in
Massachusetts in Boston it now takes you
10 seconds to contact your friend in
Baltimore yeah so on that scale
shouldn't things happen a lot faster
yeah why don't they
because the only people who are in a
position to change it are the people who
benefit from it so we'll never change
unless we the people change it and by
the way democratic institutions aren't
the way to do that because you go and
you cast your fucking vote and you know
it it doesn't fucking matter because
someone packed a ballot box or a mail-in
ballot or a provisional ballot and your
vote got diluted by 10 so the guy they
want to win wins and they get away with
it and maybe a law gets past 10 years
from now 20 years from now yeah fixes
that and in the meantime they get 20
years of gerrymandering districts of
putting Republicans in of having a
Senate that was designed by slaveholders
to keep power in the small states with
low population and now the power of the
Senate resides in the hands I mean 30%
of the population we're you know the I
think the classic example of it takes a
long time sometimes when you're going
against the Wills of the power that be
is is is right there and and part of
what you said with reconstruction and
Jim Crow and everything like that like
it's a white male you want to sure you
could you could you hypothetically have
after the Emancipation Proclamation said
to yourself all right
well clean slate just everyone gets to
vote now and everyone gets the same
rights as a regardless of race everyone
gets the same rights as everybody else
exactly what did happen but it never got
enforced no it absolutely did the end of
Reconstruction in 1876 is when Jim Crow
came into effect and while the federal
government was running things in the
south we had African American
congressmen and senators elected from
southern districts that were majority
black when the when the federal troops
pulled out in 1876 as part of the great
compromise that put Benjamin Hayes in
the White House mm-hmm ended
reconstruction that's when Jim Crow came
in Arizona you mean Harrison yes that's
when that's when yeah when green
construction ended when Jim Crow came in
so we had never ended reconstruction
then all of this would never have
happened but it was saying that
reconstruct reconstruction is part it
the the there's letting actions - what
is it was okay of 1866 changed
everything from the end of the war in
1865 and if after that ten years was
revolutionary mm-hmm you're talking
about things going backwards in the down
ten years after the end of
Reconstruction because there there's a
little step forward that's to work
because the people who choose to do
benefit have all the power
yeah and the situation at the end of
Reconstruction is the situation we have
now the people who benefit from it if
they could take away votes from people
they would not because the voting fuckin
matters because they don't wanna have to
deal with the crime and the cover-up why
would they but in the end who cares
about the cover-up because Trump crime
nobody cares North Carolina crime nobody
fucking cares in the end no one cares
and the thing I said outside there yes
the all of these legislators all over
the country are trying to limit the
power of incoming Democrats fantastic
you know what's gonna happen
fucking zero because American voters are
stupid and they have a short memory and
by the time the next election rolls
around it'll be the next fuckin thing
what Kardashian is doing what what is
Kanye off his drugs
Miley Cyrus has a new fucking song who
cares none of them none of them care
about anything none of it matters and
you'll continue to think that your vote
matters despite the fact that all the
evidence supports the opposite that the
vote really doesn't matter that what's
going to happen is gonna happen with or
without your vote
they'll decide what the end result is by
the way they're presenting you the to
candidate choices mm-hmm can I can I
pitch an idea to you real quick and then
we can ref it's not guillotines I'm not
interested can I pitch an idea to you
real quick ow you know how like over the
last 10 20 years like people who watch
Fox News have gotten more and more
ridiculous like the people who watched
it all the time Cher and how the same
people who go onto Facebook or Twitter
and see some ridiculous nonsense from
some unverifiable source
yeah and just runs off with in
information and believes it
wholeheartedly until you manage to prove
them wrong yeah perhaps the same sort of
things that are happening to the the
same sort of influences that are
directing those people might be
happening in a similar way on the left
side okay maybe you've gotten caught up
in that a little bit I would argue that
perhaps where perhaps where you you are
you were feeling like there's a a great
radicalization that is about to happen
when in fact it's just the pajama people
in the internet so just talking off it
has happened on the left because people
who watch CNN are just as bad as people
who watch Fox News people watch MSNBC
are just as bad as people watch Fox News
I don't believe it there's a great
radicalization about to happen I
understand that 3% of the population can
bring about drastic change but not the
3% were involved don't actually
understand that because I'm smarter than
all of you and that's what you don't
understand you need leadership and you
need intelligence and I have both of
those things you have none of those
things not you you out there have none
of those things there is no great
radicalization coming but because people
aren't radical anymore because we they
have perfectly primed the pump over the
last ten years because these things keep
us fucking distracted forever and we
care more about the Kardashians and we
do our elected leaders and we care about
what movies coming out and we're
prepared to pay police chiefs of cities
with 300 dirt murders a year the number
for amount in the country because that's
what we do so quick stuff in the
Baltimore corner yes hang on you're
really giving me thought of a corner
where you get the straight deuce anyway
yep so I said we were gonna stop by here
quickly
it looks like Joel was his name
Fitzgerald Fitzgerald from Fort Worth is
up for approval by the Baltimore City
County Council there have been uh
thoughts comments tweets I I think
what's what the most interesting part is
is the number of op eds I've seen
written in the Sun by people who say
that the City Council should not approve
Joel Fitzgerald it or a circumstances
and just deny him outright because
Catherine Pugh has not been open about
the process at all yes which is a first
step that happens break before members
of the City Council start saying the
same thing out loud yes so I'm just
saying when when you know later this
week when you hear five City Council
members maybe even Jack Young comes out
there and says it maybe even get a big
big name in the in the pile it's already
being said amongst - I can't remember
the - but there's - who are always well
there's like Brandon Scott who's always
like rabble-rousing yeah the - Ravel
rose white guy the young white guy and
the young black guy are always
rabble-rousing on the city Mitsy who's
the other one who's always rabble rouser
there's the white guy with the beard
like was all clean-shaven for the
election and then immediately just went
back hipster and now he's like full
beard and backwards hats at City Council
meetings and everyone's up in arms about
I so he tells me that joel is going to
be denied and then quietly told to go
back to Fort Worth luckily didn't give
up his job there but here's here's the
deal and here's my point of view they're
offering him pew is said to have offered
him the fourth highest pay of any police
chief in the country mm-hmm I don't
oppose that in fact I say make him the
best paid chief in the country however
tie that pay to results not just we're
gonna give you this just for coming and
showing up every day so you have a
minimum and then you can reach certain
performance enhancers minimum yeah 100k
doesn't salary right yeah I mean if he
does some overtime he could turn that
into like I'm 1.1 million sounds like I
had the Baltimore Police Department
basically right that's all good so how
it managed to take this six-figure job
and do a high six-figure job and all you
had to do was sleep in a car every once
in a while by the way I understand that
there is a Twitter account or an
Instagram account that is literally just
all cops
sleeping anybody's in Baltimore County
just somebody going around Canton and
like some got some cop sitting in can
where there's no crime sleeping in his
car yeah
working overtime for sure I mean yeah 36
hours a day some overtime yeah anyway so
uh that is that is a phrase I've heard
from Baltimore City comes before so it's
so 100k out of the gate now if you can
get murders below 300 for the year
that's not a realistic anyway we're
gonna be like three forty or fifty how
would one possibly the murders aren't
something they can change with the
administration I feel like there are
steps you could take there's probably
since according to the FOP nothing
changes when you when unless you give
more overtime that's the only thing that
changes the murder rate imagine how many
murders we'd have it we didn't have all
this overtime yeah by the way this week
in Baltimore four shootings within a few
block
apparently somebody just allegedly
driving around randomly shooting people
out the window of a car because we've
officially joined Mad Max that's where
Baltimore is right now like and you were
saying that there's another woman who
was yes so there was a a 52 year-old
mother who was shot and killed giving
money to a beggar not by the beggar
though not by the bang not by the beggar
fight by a third party yeah
shot and killed but to which I started
wondering to what end do we do
have here like this is the type of thing
like I was thinking about it like in
turning this term a little earlier like
it sometimes being in charge and being
in control is like being a dog walker of
many dogs okay you know and some of the
dogs like you know let's say social
security is one of our dogs your your
president and social security is one of
your dogs but you you know they they
don't really get in trouble they don't
really overspend they're pretty well
behaved making money yeah like it's not
a prop you you let that one wander a
little bit you know sure cuz you know
it's not gonna get into trouble but you
know like energy that gets into trouble
with a fucking time yeah
like when you're talking about Saudi
Arabia and their gas and like where are
we gonna drill the middle of the
Atlantic Ocean
also the murdering of journalists yeah I
mean all these that related to these are
all dogs that are you're walking down
the street with and some of them you
have to keep a little bit of a tighter
grasp on sure and you know if you if you
let a dog that doesn't have that needs
the tighter grasp like go out and start
you know like fooling around
yeah then you're going to have problems
eventually when that dog is just like
completely uncontrollable and can't
break them you can't you can't bring
them back to that point before because
you've let him see the freedom and
that's the Baltimore Police Department
that's that's Baltimore okay
crime crime in the a me like late 80s
and early 90s when it just started to
like spiked up yeah like that
should have been the time where somebody
was just like whoa we have to get this
shit under control yes this take the
leash now this crime problem needs the
sand right next to mine right next to my
shoe yeah give I walk it walks and I'm
gonna keep guest Cesar Romero other
other things in the city I don't have
the you know I gotta keep the crime
closed we'll worry about the
infrastructure and tooth in the 2000
structure a dog is out there just
running around an appeal and it's okay
well we'll worry about that when it
becomes the problem with water means
starting every week yeah when that dog
starts dying what were you right now
crime crisis the one the crimes of focus
and because and because there's been 30
years since the crime first started
really getting out of control and we've
just done nothing has just been left
unchecked it's so tight like there's no
what do you do to like Britain that dog
back in and that's the problem I think
like what what we would need is we would
need a commissioner like I wouldn't want
to hire somebody and just like if I was
mayor of Baltimore right now and I went
up to the lectern I'd find some guy I'd
find my pick I'd be you know like
magnanimous and open the doors my people
say you know cuz you want to get him up
here people's feeling you know like sure
how we're doing in the search and stuff
like that along the process but then
eventually I'd have my guy and I'm you
know guy but you know I'd have my guy
right there probably a guy probably man
uh and he would be up there also black
eye brow II because I need any divorce I
need to relate to the community yes yes
it's like why would a black guy be
related to the community anyway
all right and then I'd say to everyone
who's listening I would say this is
Jimmy who's gonna be our new police
commissioner not a real black name come
out with some of the ugly black racist
this okay yes it could be Jimmy and
Jimmy could be a black eye here right
not a single there's Jimmy Smith on the
Ravens they're named one black Jimmy you
know how many black people named Jimmy
you know this is Jimmy he's their new
police commissioner I just want to let
you all know ahead of time I don't
imagine that he's going to do a
wonderful job of bringing down the crime
right away what he's going to do is fix
it so that in 30 years when after we've
had many years of fixing this problem
maybe then possibly fingers crossed it
will be better but this is the guy who's
going to get us in that direction I
ain't as opposed to this guy who is
going to continue us in the opposite
direction I feel like you would not be
re-elected as mayor probably wouldn't
take your medicine mayor's never are
that's true true and you see the problem
too is that
I I again catherine pugh gets elected
and she's just like alright i could just
keep doing everything the same and maybe
this you know be different for me than
it was for the last nine people who had
this job I'm looking at the government
maybe my force of personality will be
the thing that will change everything if
you see me on a scooter I'm on a scooter
listen Martin O'Malley didn't really
connect to the community like I did I'm
the one who can fix this problem not
Martin
yes not Stephanie but my point is I am
all for Joel Fitzgerald if he can fix
the problem if you think he's the one to
fix problem great don't give him all the
money up front
$100,000 way more than you need to live
in the city of Baltimore also give that
money like if you're gonna pay somebody
that much money I feel like over time
for the other police all I've seen like
I feel like you could find the for lack
of a better term the George Bush of
police commissioners sheriff somebody
who's a psychic you know like oh he was
he was on the beat in New York City for
18 years in the 70s and then he became
the second-in-command in you know Los
Angeles for George HW yeah like yeah
he's a George W Bush oh did I am in yeah
and I was just like wait he did a lot of
coke in the eighties and Jesus yeah
drinking somebody would blow I'm the guy
find the guy with the incredible
impeccable resume sure yeah and then
just be like this is this guy was police
commissioner and all these cities that
have turned themselves around we've
we've opened up the purse strings to
bring him in here because we desperately
need his help
yeah like this is the guy we're spending
all that money on not the guy who was
fired from four jobs in four years and
again I can almost justify that if he
was the for god help me the George HW
Bush of police commissioners I can
almost justify a higher pay cuz you're
like okay maybe this guy as opposed to
all of the bats who came from Oakland
after being there for a year and this
guy who's been in four different
department or three different
departments in four years that may be
the guy the George HW Bush of police
commissioners could get it done yeah
and I don't want him thinking well
there's a guy like that though you gotta
pay like you get incredible experience
you have to pay extra for
and I also don't want him 1 or 2 years
into the contract to start Dan Duquette
us and being like oh sure Anto is
looking for please they pay pretty well
up there right yeah and then not getting
that job and I mean bitter about it not
doing a good job our city for the next
two years
that's from now on this we're gonna
called and you kidding it's when you try
to get another job it gets shut down and
get a better gig and then you do a
shitty job at your job for the rest of
your comeback just because but yeah I am
I if that was a guy I'm ok with it
otherwise let's give him the hundred K
and let's say hey when you hit certain
milestones that's when we're gonna we're
gonna pay you more yeah get murders
under 300 great get murders that are 200
get murders under a hundred we should
probably just do that for everybody and
make the make the mayor's pay dependent
on murders that'll change the the murder
rate I imagine I think now let's get it
off miles and scooted online and for two
murders murders stopped yes we're gonna
give you four right now we're going to
give you 300 murders if you get under
300 murders then for for every murder
under 300 we're going to give you a
$20,000 bonus for every murder over 300
you're losing $200,000 the money you
would otherwise been paid I don't -
that'll be that'll be our barometer
number I mean as soon as we start
getting down like as soon as it's 250
consistently then we'll move the
benchmark a little bit sure will give
you a better base but we'll move the
benchmark the 250 down to 200 maybe 150
yeah maybe we can be per capita I don't
know uh middle-of-the-road
cities in the United States yeah that'd
be nice per capita twentieth like we are
in population yeah yeah sure that'd be
great yeah I think that that seems like
an appropriate place to let's try to get
it there well you're worried about being
murdered in Baltimore there's only one
safe place you can go what's that oh
yeah um Corey know the anthem calm over
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I don't know you're just not looking at
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don't want to I don't want to be
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movie well I mean I'm probably not
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