That is next on Chicago tonight.
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Over the next hour we will 
discuss the outline of that plan
 and talk through 
violence Thursday evening at 
Mill College where he revealed 
the plan on Chicago tonight last
 >>Man: It is a very 
complex set of problems that 
will be addressing in a 
comprehensive 
sure you're also providing help 
where there is 
caucus front part your sissy 
expense a number to be between 
The mischief is much more 
dangerous as of 
Yesterday ousted Gary McCarthy 
that the rise of islands is the 
increase of police 
during the Laquan McDonald 
>>Man: We have less effective 
policing based on the political 
climate that has been created b
in coming weeks that would 
toughen prison sentences work 
balance with 
Prison reform group say there is
 no correlation between tougher 
sentences and lower 
If we want to stop people from 
committing violence we need to 
find ways on the front and to 
by Kip Mitchell from the 
station's Westside 
Tonight Show is being lifestream
 online and we welcome you to 
join 
One of them includes parenting 
and he 
wants to address the role of 
absentee 
Why is that important for the 
city to address?
around in the community talking 
to people to get feedback on the
topic and the need for mentoring
 and the impact they can 
component as part of the 
argument for the need to 
>>Woman: As I said, Bill, he 
will talk of the absence of male
 role models but the importance 
one part of several of what I 
expect he will hear from the 
policies.
Particularly the text, the 
fines, the fees, and the impact 
this 
do when the families themselves 
are 
Fractured, and really under all 
kinds of financial pressures but
 it is difficult for exa
It is really just a city 
confiscating cars 
And then I went to West Illinois
 University which was a 
land-grant 
When I think of the way public 
funds were used to create 
opportunities for 
When European families found 
themselves in the same kind 
moved t
o put in place housing 
Public school investment and r
Stresses that families are under
 that could potentially lead to 
having one of their family 
members 
We can't discuss the violence in
 the city of Chicago without 
understanding that unhealed 
trauma community to begin to 
heal our children and fathers 
and our 
find themselves in the criminal 
justice system what do you see 
as 
hen I have 20 kids in the 
juvenile temporary detention 
center and I asked every one of 
those kids 
They were victims before they 
became the offenders in the 
juvenile system.
my 
fellas come out of prison they 
can't get public 
All of us sitting here need to 
collaborate, coordinate our 
>>Phil: Floor is likely you 
wanted to say something about 
parenting?
>>Woman: Of the comments that 
Reverend Hatch said and what 
were thoughtful and right 
I think it is dangerous 
territory to go into the 
question of parenting in this 
And kids by the level of 
violence brought on by illegal 
DuPont's tissue that all of us 
should tread 
have double digit and in some 
instances higher poverty r
communities and those families 
so we can raise people up and 
provide them with real 
for the future for 
I think also people waiting to 
hear and expect is what is the 
plan right now to drive the
>>Man: I agree with Lori 
e
And we know from earlier in the 
year reports of relief that 
showed 40 percent 
are out of school, out of 
police and punisher way out of 
this 
That is what we need.
>>Phil: Any you have been vocal 
on the way you killed someone 
bridge you spent 14 years in 
prison 
in there really is a lack 
is caring 
I think the other part is the 
reality as it was here today is 
this whole notion around 
today 
And the same thing for people we
 tend to hire who have records 
as 
How do we invest in our 
communities I think is the 
bigger question.
holistic 
I strongly believe a lot of her 
parents don't know what it looks
>>Phil: What skills might some 
parents be 
>>Man: I think a lot of it has 
to do with cleaning.
Planning, taking about what 
career path people can take.
look at needs if parents have a 
f
If they are home and they know 
they don't have to struggle to 
provide food for themselves and 
their 
extent can mentoring make 
>>Man: I think mentoring can go 
a long 
And helping a lot of young eels 
in our 
And I think as his been 
mentioned before the key 
question is how do we invest in 
our commun
The programs we are investing in
 but I think when it comes to 
male role models in our 
think a lot of the role models 
that could have been role models
 to be growing up 
They left because of violence.
>>Phil: Did you have a male role
 model that help guide 
y
We have to think how can be 
redefined what success looks 
like in our 
for these younger k
difference or are successful 
>>Phil: As we mentioned Chip 
Mitchell will be joining us from
Chip reaction from community 
leadership spoken to about some 
of w
They are starting to hear about 
these four piece 
In some of these policing, 
He said one of the keys is 
missing.
Otherwise it is just, here is 
another P, it 
So I have been doing research on
 and off during the years and we
 have a huge problem with 
unemployment among youth in the 
city especially black youth and 
especially 
>>Phil: Chip are you hearing 
anything in reaction to the 
mayor's plan to raise the issue 
of a lack 
>>Reporter: It is interesting 
you mentioned that, though I 
spoke to a 
In his case he coaches a 
football team.
But this police officer on the 
west 
get later to you in the 
p
>>Man: I think one this idea 
How we police in the 
city prevents me and young 
people from feeling safe around 
police.
One I don't think communities 
need police in 
print jobs, mental health 
services is the same.
Those are the things we need to 
improve 
I don't necessarily think this 
need to come with police 
SL.
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ou a batch that please badge 
will give you a platform that 
will 
In my blog I have people who 
gain bank with his 
Something that would allow that 
person to be a member of 
>>Phil: Nneka Jones Tapia you 
had your hand up.
have on staff 
>>Phil: Let me pull you in 
because one of the things your 
organization is co
What is the connection in your 
view?
all check took my guide about 
the fifth fee of poverty.
crime is 
city are not in school and not 
And our organization actually 
identified 500 
So when you take people who are 
living in poverty and you get 
them no hope and no 
is a breeding ground for 
violence and other kinds of 
social 
so we need to start to see that 
poverty and violence are not 
just linked they feed eac
simultaneously.
>>Phil: Let me get Andrea Zopp, 
bullet issue the mayor's 
>>Woman: I think the mayor talk 
creation and creating pathways 
for that including pathways 
absolutely that piece, he didn't
 have a paper jobs but I think 
included clearly and that idea 
of prevention is you have got to
 provide 
step off to talk just for a 
minute about the policing 
have to provide police the 
resources and skills and 
training to make those things 
And beyond that I think it is a 
threat that runs through many of
 these comments is cultural 
We recruit from segregated 
neighborhoods that we need to 
make sure one kids and young 
For many instances they are 
meeting someone who is different
 from them for the first time as
 a 
We need to figure out how we 
invest in the right kind of 
training to get them to 
understand 
I hope it is something we will 
hear from.
What are the parents of children
 not involved in violence doing 
right?
>>Man: Obviously been involved 
in a child's life.
You know some of us have raised 
our children on the west side 
but I raised all my c
I think all of that is 
But also we did not necessarily 
have the same kind of poverty 
stresses and we are back to that
I mean I had the awful 
task of being with one of my 
families yesterday were a kid 
was 15 years 
fire beyond 
Two houses from their house.
And I have to say they have a 
wonderful 
Of course they have all kind of 
folk in the family but by all 
measures this was a great 
And so it means you can do 
everything right and still 
become victim of some of the 
So again unless you change the 
I want to get back to the 
policing part because it is 
something I was interested in.
Obviously, the police operate 
more like an occupying force in 
these 
What you outlined was literally 
a recipe for the disaster that 
we 
We go to the 
Or crime is happening and if 
crime is happening in poverty 
areas and if those areas 
live in the ZIP Code that the 
the sense of outsider policeman.
force that Lori Lightfoot 
pointed out 
We are seizing more guns in the 
city then New York and L.A. 
And then also compelling them 
right now to deal with real c
said I think clearing on a ZIP 
Code requirement right now I 
think we need to focus on 
do, implementing the 
recommendations that the task 
force has recommended.
Making this commitment to 
transparency, accountability we 
But also this has to 
Come out and do their jobs in 
very dangerous 
>>Woman: What Andrea is saying 
is not a popular position for 
our city is not 
>>Woman: I have said to Lori 
Lightfoot, as I was reading 
through the recomme
training I was looking for an 
acknowledgment of the experience
 that police 
mental health, post traumatic 
stress kind of support for 
police 
This is their everyday 
When I talk about community 
healing I think it has to be on 
both sides.
We need to start moving 
past pointing fingers and 
creating 
We have been trying it is not 
working we need to figure out 
what it will take to rebuild 
those 
Acknowledging we have those who 
try to do the right things and 
not all of them are 
We have to start moving past 
this divide.
Help the violence and help the 
police.
There is a saying nothing stops 
a bullet like a 
We know, there is evidence 
that 43 percent 
reduction in arrest for violence
 when you 
over the summer.
And our work with safer 
foundations with adults, 63 
percent reduction in 
Which means a person coming out 
of prison didn't violate their 
patrol and didn't have any new 
We can probably cut this crime 
rate significantly by doing some
 massive 
W
something to deal with the think
 that impacts this 
significant amount of resources 
to this issue.
But the issue we do have to have
 is a whole city 
And the mayor has in the past 
and I think he will continue to 
call on the business 
him to 
From 2007-212 12 we had a 12 
percent drop in sworn police 
So when you hear cops complain 
about 
stepping shortages and for now 
they are not blowing 
s
We have a lot of people seeing a
 return to mobile units second 
work district wide or even 
crime hot spots and set your 
eyes this units have been 
disbanded because of various 
scandals 
The caps program 
problem that is not get nearly 
as much attention as it 
is the number of murders that 
are not 
They are going to soft by the 
end of the 
If you kill somebody right now 
by the end of the year you are 
p
There is a strong argument it is
 not just 
a lot more focus on two 
detective work after these 
crimes are committed, fell.
I see and hear let's 
highlighting the number of 
shootings that are unsolved or 
And I heard Chip mention the 
idea of saturating certain 
hotspots in the city of 
approach which is one of the 
piece of the mayor how 
We recognize in many cases and 
there are a lot of sense to 
support 
People who have been 
perpetrators for violence have 
been 
there that address those 
who are in the front 
people who are returning back 
from prison, the United States 
veterans.
People who are peer educators 
who actually have the will and 
the passion to be able to serve 
in 
Equip them so they can be 
advocates in our community as 
>>Man: I wouldn't say because I 
think let's up with a finger 
begin to ask a few There is 
always this idea we can rebuild 
relationships with police.
I may not come from the 
generation before me my mom 
comes before 
And there has never been in my 
community on the west side of 
Chicago a relationship with 
When we talk about rebuilding 
this relationship is for people 
who look like me police have 
always 
in immense amount of poverty on 
the west side of 
born in poverty did not create 
the poverty they are born 
So you have to ask larger 
questions for the world we live 
in the time we leave in and 
begin to 
here at this 
to change the 
racial.community have been 
Whether it is historically.
was never a relationship In my 
experience been one that has 
a happy go lucky respectful 
possibility.>>Man: Out of fear.
If you think that is where 
go.
alked about support.
And 
people.
In the city of 
counselors in every school's on 
the southwest side.
interacting with police because 
that is really what most police 
think they could do is arrest 
their >>Phil: Lori Lightfoot.
mending the 
relationship, bridging the gulf 
whatever cliché 
issue and that 
is the current weight on 
homicides and 
That is a fundamentally 
difficult problem that has to be
 The new chief, the new 
with her supervisors to 
incentivize those detectives who
 are signed these cases to go 
out 
As Mr. Dixon said we have to 
have a Marshall plan for the 
part of that 
We need to bring all those folks
 around the table and ask every 
single one of them, are 
Some people think it is 
counterintuitive that you 
applaud that as a public 
defender why is 
>>Woman: My caveat is if we hire
 more police officers that they 
be 
I believe in what Lori was 
saying is we can have good 
community policing.
therefore there is no trouble 
then when there is trouble 
people will come to them.
Market their houses search 
without a 
w
They have been arrested 
wrongfully or forced to a 
confession.
Those kinds of things do not 
instill trust you have to build 
the trust.
>>Phil: Malcolm are you 
I think policing especially in 
America an area that lacks for 
more people than any other 
country in 
When we talk about whether a 
young person commits a crime or 
To me a young person committing 
a crime and being locked up and 
thrown in 
I think as a society as a whole 
we need reformation of that type
 of 
I think the question is what do 
we need to invest in so people 
can 
I think if we look at the family
 of police officers 45,000 
dollars that can be 
To go way further 
Secondly I think if we are going
 to be talking about the way 
community policing is done right
 now 
Because I have seen i
Being involved but that was two 
out of how many police officers 
we have in my community?
that.
Just because we have so many 
fathers and mothers locked 
Just because as individuals are 
there doesn't mean they are not 
still a part of the
gel and continue to build 
The Sheriff has developed a 
number of programs to reconnect 
individuals before they go back 
into 
We could use the support of the 
community these individuals are 
going back 
Churches, schools, as long as we
 continue to think that once a 
person is 
off for the family are cut off 
from the neighborhood we will 
continue to have a problem that 
is 
Those individuals are still an 
effective part of the community 
we have to see them as such.
>>Man: I agree with Jahmal 
How do we open up, how do we 
change the way we look at 
understand maybe because 
somebody made a mistake they are
 not a mistake.
And in total was not a mistake 
but we need businesses to 
And that is really important.
Can you raise a curtain on what 
the mayor might be saying on 
Thursday?
important the fact is we have a 
serious problem with violence in
 the 
those murders there is a family 
and a victim that we have 
shootings that we have to deal 
And also this underlying theme 
we all have to come together.
He talks about the police like 
they are monolithic, they are 
all the same, they are 
respect people, they have never 
worked with the communities of 
of colors sees them as an act 
for that is a barrier we have to
 get 
>>Man: I want to 
humanize police but when you put
 on the bed you are part of a 
system that is about absolutely 
is The leasing is 
>>Woman: Either way my real 
point to you is that 
>>Man: Out of the hands of our 
president he is literally a 
disproportionate and it is 
Dependent on who you are it is 
succeeding but it is locking up 
people is enormous.
The way our prison system looks,
 the 
way Cook County is one of the 
biggest mental health 
If we talk about it.
>>Phil: Rev Marshall Hatch what 
you want to hear the mayor say 
on be difficult to heal these 
issues but if people's 
this critique of the police we 
have to say that is a
People experiencing in these 
communities are valid 
Like I said I had some 
unfortunate 
J Smith had an article and I 
talk all the time 
about you really can't have 
reconciliation until you 
how police have functioned going
 back to John Birch and all of 
those 
 want to hear the community 
residents should be part of 
impacting, 
shaping the fact 
There is no question that in my 
mind we are doable but we have 
to change our mindset and work 
to 
I hope you join us live tomorrow
 at 7:00 over hauling the states
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look at one model that is 
at Chicago 
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