CONNELL: THE ASSOCIATED PRESS IS
APPARENTLY FEELING THE BERN,
FEELING THE BERN AT THE AP
PUTTING OUT A PIECE CALLING
VERMONT SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS
THE QUOTE, THE INDISPUTABLE
FRONT-RUNNER IN THE 2020
DEMOCRATIC RACE FOR NOMINATION
FOR PRESIDENT.
IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBERS HE IS NOT
BESTED FORMER PRESIDENT
JOE BIDEN WHO IS NOT OFFICIALLY
IN THE RACE.
IF YOU LOOK AT SIX MONTHS OF
POLLING, BIDEN HAS THE LEAD.
"REAL CLEAR POLITICS" POLLING
AVERAGE HAS BIDEN, 28-8, AND
SANDERS AT 21-8.
COMFORTABLE LEAD OVER WARREN,
BOOKER, THE REST OF THEM.
PUTTING LABEL ON A CANDIDATE
EVEN WITH THE NUMBERS.
FOX POLITICAL ANALYST GIANNA
CALDWELL JOINS US, FORMER
ADVISOR TO THE HILLARY CLINTON
CAMPAIGN ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT.
THIS LABEL, THE INDISPUTABLE
FRONT-RUNNER AMONG THE
DEMOCRATS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU
WOULD USE TO DESCRIBE BERNIE
SANDERS?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO IS OVER AT
THE AP NOWADAYS, WE HAVE 99
PROBLEMS IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY, BUT BERNIE SANDERS BEING
FRONT-RUNNER AIN'T ONE.
THE REALITY, BERNIE SANDERS
WHILE HE INVOICE SOME SUPPORT
YOU CAN'T DENY THAT.
HE IS NOT THE CLEAR
FRONT-RUNNER.
ANYONE WILL TELL YOU THAT WE
HAVE A CLEAR FRONT-RUNNER,
PROBABLY LYING TO YOU.
POLLS INDICATE VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN ENJOYS A LARGE PORTION OF
THE SUPPORT IF ELECTION WERE
TODAY, HOWEVER THIS IS MY FOURTH
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY I PARTICIPATE
IN AS CONSULTANT, I CAN TELL
YOU, THINGS CHANGE, MOOD OF THE
PARTY CHANGES, SO THE
FRONT-RUNNER TODAY CAN'T BE A
FROM THE RUNNER A YEAR FROM NOW.
CONNELL: I WOULD LOVE TO GO INTO
THE 99 PROBLEMS GET THEM
ONE-ON-ONE WITH YOU.
BUT WITH TIME CONSTRAINTS, WE'RE
LOOKING AT TALE OF TAPE TWO OLD
GUYS IN THE RACE ARE OUTPOLLING
EVERYBODY ELSE, BERNIE AND
BIDEN.
BERNIE SANDERS GENERATES A LOT
OF MONEY.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK,
18 MILLION IN THE FIRST QUARTER.
IS THE INDISPUTABLE FRONT-RUNNER
FOR DEMOCRATS?
HOW DO YOU SEE IT?
>> IF WE LOOK WHAT IS BEING
COMMUNICATED THROUGH THE
POLITICS OF TODAY, LOOK AT
POLICIES IN WHICH THE DEMOCRATS
ARE OFFERING UP I WOULD SAY HE
IS THE UNDISPUTED FRONT-RUNNER.
REMINDED FROM A REPUBLICAN
SLOGAN FROM 1950, LIBERTY VERSUS
SOCIALISM.
WE'RE BACK HERE THIS DAY.
I'M HONORED TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION WITH ANTWAN, WE HAD
SAME TOP I CAN, HE SAID THE
SOCIAL I WAS NOT THE BIG TOPIC
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS, THAT
IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
CONNELL: THAT IS HOW THE
PRESIDENT --
>> IT IS NOT.
CONNELL: HE WANTS IT TO BE THAT,
SOCIALISM VERSUS CAPITALISM.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT IS NOT.
>> THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
WHERE IT HAS BECOME.
THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT
DEMOCRATS ARE USING THESE
TALKING POINTS ON REPARATIONS
AND VOTING FROM JAIL WHICH IS
SOMETHING BERNIE SANDERS IS
OFFERED UP AS WELL FOR FELONS,
GOT TO KNOW THIS IS WERE THE
CONVERSATION IS LEADING.
HE IS THE FRONT-RUNNER OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT THIS TIME.
CONNELL: QUICKLY, ANTWAN.
>> JUST WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU
SAY IT, SOME ON THE RIGHT SIDE
OF THE POLITICAL AISLE DON'T
MAKE IT TRUE.
WE HAVE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS, NO
NO.
WE'RE HAVING ROBUST
CONVERSATIONS IN OUR PARTY.
THAT IS WHAT A PRIMARY IS.
VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR PARTY.
>> WE'RE NOT HAVING
CONVERSATIONS.
>> THAT IS NOT ME, TRANSLATE TO
THE PARTY BEING THE PARTY OF
SOCIALISM.
IN FACT, PELOSI, AT THE STATE OF
THE UNION STOOD UP WHEN
DONALD TRUMP -- DONALD TRUMP
SAID AMERICA WILL NEVER BE THE
PARTY OF SOCIALISM.
PELOSI STOOD UP AND CLAPPED.
YOU HAVE CANDIDATES DENOUNCE
SOCIALISM.
CONNELL: I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT
FOR ONE SECOND.
YOU GUYS STAY WITH US FOR THIS,
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN A
MOMENT.
IT BRINGS UP EXACTLY WHAT THESE
GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, 2020
DEMOCRATSIC CANDIDATES GOING
AROUND THE COUNTRY CAMPAIGNING
ONE BY ONE, THERE IS THIS THEME
THEY ARE EMERGING WHETHER THEY
SUPPORT SOCIALISM I'M NOT SURE,
TAKING AIM AT CAPITALISM, GOING
AFTER CAPITALISM AS IT STANDS
NOW IN THE COUNTRY.
WITH THAT IN MIND, HILLARY
VAUGHN IS LIVE ON CAPITOL HILL
WITH LATEST ON ALL THIS.
REPORTER: HEY, CONNELL.
CAPITALISM IS THE NEW DIRTY WORD
FOR DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT.
OVER THE WEEKEND 2020 CONTENDERS
BLAMED CAPITALISM FOR LEADING
THE COUNTRY DOWN A SLIPPERY
SLOPE TOWARD A OLIGARCHKY.
TWO-TIME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
BERNIE SANDERS IS SELF-DECLARED
SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT.
IT IS NO SURPRISE HE IS TAKING
AIM AT CAPITALISM AS HE DID
DURING HIS CAMPAIGN IN 2016.
OTHER CANDIDATES IN THE RACE,
THINKING ABOUT GETTING INTO THE
RACE ARE CHIMING IN TOO.
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, POSSIBLE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MAYOR
PETE BUTTIGIEG SAID CORPORATE
AMERICA HE THINKS WIELDS TOO
MUCH POWER, IF LEFT UNCHECKED
COULD BE A BIG PROBLEM.
>> IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE CAPITALISM
WITHOUT DEMOCRACY, YOU CAN SEE
IT VERY QUICKLY IN RUSSIA.
IT TURNS INTO THE CRONY
CAPITALISM.
THAT TURNS INTO OLIGARCHKY.
>> WE'RE IN THE DIRECTION OF
OLIGARCHKY AND TOGETHER WE ARE
GOING TO TURN THAT AROUND.
REPORTER: FORMER STARBUCKS CEO
AND BILLIONAIRE HOWARD SCHULTZ
IS THINKING ABOUT GETTING IN THE
RACE.
HE TOLD FOX BUSINESS'S
LIZ CLAMAN AN HOUR AGO HE SEE AS
SMALL CRISIS HAPPENING WITH
CAPITALISM.
HIS CRITICISM THE CANDIDATES IN
THE RACE RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE
THE EXPERIENCE THEY NEED TO
ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
>> ALL THESE POLITICIANS WHO ARE
CRYING ABOUT CAPITALISM, HAVE
THEY EVER MADE A PAYROLL?
HAVE THEY EVER WORKED IN A
BUSINESS?
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE OTHER THAN
CRITICIZE THE SYSTEM?
REPORTER: SCHULTZ ISN'T THE ONLY
BILLIONAIRE ALSO CRITICIZING
CAPITALISM.
BILLIONAIRE INVESTOR RAY DALIO
TOLD "60 MINUTES" HE SAYS THERE
IS BIG PROBLEM WITH CAPITALISM.
HE SAYS IT NEEDS BE TO REMODELED
FOR EVERYONE.
CONNELL.
CONNELL: HILLARY VAUGHN ON
CAPITOL HILL.
BRING GIANNO AND ANTWAN TO REACT
TO THAT.
IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING.
NOT TO SAY WE'RE FOR SOCIALISM,
IF YOU'RE RAY DALIO, THE HEDGE
FUND MANAGER, WITH HOWARD
SCHULTZ, THE CURRENT STATE OF
AMERICAN CAPITALISM IT IS NOT
WORKING RIGHT.
I WONDER IF THE PRESIDENT MIGHT
BE CAREFUL WHAT HE WISHES FOR IF
HE WANTS THIS BATTLE, SOCIALISM
THAT TYPE OF CAPITALISM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE WAY
HILLARY PUT THAT TOGETHER.
>> WELL I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH
ANY DATA THAT SUPPORTS THE
CONCLUSION THAT THERE IS
SOMETHING WRONG WITH CAPITALISM.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS
CAPITALISM HAS BEEN A SYSTEM
BEEN IN PLACE QUITE A LONG TIME.
DONE WELL.
CREATED COMPANIES AND CREATED A
LARGE MIDDLE CLASS.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT --
CONNELL: THE DATA USUALLY USED
IS RICH GETTING TOO RICH.
INEQUALITY, THE GAPS IN
INEQUALITY.
>> SO RICH GETTING RICH, MEANING
IF I PUT, ANTWAN AND I ARE BOTH
BUSINESS OWNERS F WE PUT OUR
LIVES ON THE LINE, POSSIBLY LOSE
OUT AND RISK EVERYTHING TO WIN
WHY SHOULD WE BE PENALIZED FOR
THAT?
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH
THAT?
CONNELL: ANTWAN?
>> THE WAY I SEE IT WE HAVE TO
MAKE CONSTANT IMPROVEMENTS.
NO ONE CAN ARGUE THERE IS SYSTEM
OF THE HAVE, VERSUS HAVE-NOTS IN
THIS COUNTRY.
WHAT YOU HEAR FROM A LOT OF
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FROM A
POLICY STANDPOINT, EVEN FROM
TALKING POINT STANDPOINT WE HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING TO UP LIFT AND
IMPROVE AND EXPAND WHAT THE
MIDDLE CLASS LOOK LIKE, MAKE
SURE PEOPLE IN COUNTRY NOT
WORKING TWO JOBS TO LIVE IN
POVERTY.
CONNELL: IT IS THAT BALANCE,
POLITICALLY, SAYING THAT, YEAH
I'M A CAPITALIST, BUT, AS
OPPOSED TO BUT I'M FOR
SOCIALISM, WHICH PROBABLY
DOESN'T SELL.
WE'LL CONTINUE THIS AT LATER
DATE.
>> THERE IS BIG DIVIDE AT THIS
POINT.
