NATIONAL JOURNALISTS AND SHARED WITH NBC NEWS DESCRIBE
WITH NBC NEWS DESCRIBE CONDITIONS THAT MORE CLOSELY
CONDITIONS THAT MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLE PRISON.
RESEMBLE PRISON. WE’VE SEEN CHINA’S MUSLIM
WE’VE SEEN CHINA’S MUSLIM REEDUCATION CAMPS THE WAY THE
REEDUCATION CAMPS THE WAY THE CHINESE WANTED US TO SEE THEM,
CHINESE WANTED US TO SEE THEM, ON A TIGHTLY CONTROLLED TOUR
ON A TIGHTLY CONTROLLED TOUR EARLIER THIS YEAR AND WE’VE SEEN
EARLIER THIS YEAR AND WE’VE SEEN GLIMPSES FROM LEAKED VIDEOS LIKE
GLIMPSES FROM LEAKED VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE.
THIS ONE. CHINA SAYS THE CAMPS STOP MUSLIM
CHINA SAYS THE CAMPS STOP MUSLIM HUIGYERS FROM BECOMING
HUIGYERS FROM BECOMING EXTREMISTS AND OFFER JOB
EXTREMISTS AND OFFER JOB TRAINING.
TRAINING. NOW, IN THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT’S
NOW, IN THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT’S OWN WORDS, ELITE NINE-PAGE MEMO
OWN WORDS, ELITE NINE-PAGE MEMO READS LIKE A HOW-TO MEMO, TO
READS LIKE A HOW-TO MEMO, TO PREVENT ESCAPE, 24/7 VIDEO
PREVENT ESCAPE, 24/7 VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, WATCH TOWERS AND
SURVEILLANCE, WATCH TOWERS AND DOUBLE-LOCKED DOORS.
DOUBLE-LOCKED DOORS. >> THE HEADLINE IS WE’RE DOING
>> THE HEADLINE IS WE’RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY NASTY TO A LOT
SOMETHING REALLY NASTY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT’S SECRET.
OF PEOPLE AND IT’S SECRET. >> Reporter: A GERMAN RESEARCHER
>> Reporter: A GERMAN RESEARCHER WHO IS CONSIDERED AN AUTHORITY
WHO IS CONSIDERED AN AUTHORITY ON CHINESE DETENTION OF ETHNIC
ON CHINESE DETENTION OF ETHNIC MINORITIES.
MINORITIES. DID SOMEONE TAKE A HUGE RISK IN
DID SOMEONE TAKE A HUGE RISK IN LEAKING THESE DOCUMENTS?
LEAKING THESE DOCUMENTS? >> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO
>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR MUCH LESS.
DEATH FOR MUCH LESS. >> Reporter: ESTIMATES UP TO 1.8
>> Reporter: ESTIMATES UP TO 1.8 MILLION HUIGYERS AND MUSLIM
MILLION HUIGYERS AND MUSLIM MINORITIES HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE
MINORITIES HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE CAMPS SINCE 2017.
CAMPS SINCE 2017. THAT IS A STUNNING NUMBER OF
THAT IS A STUNNING NUMBER OF PEOPLE, 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE IN
PEOPLE, 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE IN CAMPS.
CAMPS. >> IT’S PROBABLY THE LARGEST
>> IT’S PROBABLY THE LARGEST INTERNMENT OF AN ETHNIC AND
INTERNMENT OF AN ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS MINORITY SINCE THE
RELIGIOUS MINORITY SINCE THE HOLOCAUST.
HOLOCAUST. >> THE BULL CONTINUE SHOWS HOW
>> THE BULL CONTINUE SHOWS HOW EASY IT IS TO BE SINGLED OUT BY
EASY IT IS TO BE SINGLED OUT BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT FOR
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT FOR EDUCATION OR TRAINING, USING A
EDUCATION OR TRAINING, USING A CERTAIN APP OR COMMUNICATING
CERTAIN APP OR COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE OVERSEAS CAN DRAW
WITH PEOPLE OVERSEAS CAN DRAW SUSPICION.
SUSPICION. A HUIGYER-AMERICAN STOPPED
A HUIGYER-AMERICAN STOPPED CALLING HER FAMILY IN CHINA TO
CALLING HER FAMILY IN CHINA TO PROTECT THEM.
PROTECT THEM. >> THERE ARE OVER 1 MILLION
>> THERE ARE OVER 1 MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE.
INNOCENT PEOPLE. >> Reporter: BUT LAST YEAR SHE
>> Reporter: BUT LAST YEAR SHE CRITICIZED CHINA DURING A PUBLIC
CRITICIZED CHINA DURING A PUBLIC PANEL IN WASHINGTON.
PANEL IN WASHINGTON. >> SIX DAYS AFTER I TALKED, MY
>> SIX DAYS AFTER I TALKED, MY SISTER AND MY AUNT BOTH GOT
SISTER AND MY AUNT BOTH GOT ABDUCTED THE SAME DAY FOR
ABDUCTED THE SAME DAY FOR RETALIATION OF MY ACTIVISM.
RETALIATION OF MY ACTIVISM. >> YOU DON’T THINK IT’S A
>> YOU DON’T THINK IT’S A COINCIDENCE?
COINCIDENCE? >> I DON’T THINK SO.
>> I DON’T THINK SO. >> YOUR SISTER IS STILL MISSING.
>> YOUR SISTER IS STILL MISSING. YOU DON’T LITERALLY KNOW WHERE
YOU DON’T LITERALLY KNOW WHERE SHE IS?
SHE IS? >> NO, I DON’T.
>> NO, I DON’T. I DON’T EVEN KNOW IF SHE’S ALIVE
I DON’T EVEN KNOW IF SHE’S ALIVE OR NOT.
OR NOT. >> WHEN THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT
>> WHEN THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT SAYS THESE ARE VOCATIONAL CAMPS,
SAYS THESE ARE VOCATIONAL CAMPS, THEY’RE HELPING TRAIN PEOPLE FOR
THEY’RE HELPING TRAIN PEOPLE FOR NEW JOBS, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
NEW JOBS, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
THAT? >> THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE.
>> THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE. MANY PEOPLE IN THE CAMPS ARE
MANY PEOPLE IN THE CAMPS ARE UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS, WRITERS,
UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS, WRITERS, POETS.
POETS. >> IT’S A STORY THEY DON’T WANT
>> IT’S A STORY THEY DON’T WANT TO GET OUT.
TO GET OUT. >> U.S. ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF
>> U.S. ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EAST ASIA AND THE
STATE FOR EAST ASIA AND THE PACIFIC.
PACIFIC. THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT VIEWS
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT VIEWS THIS AS A FORM OF TERRORISM AND
THIS AS A FORM OF TERRORISM AND THEY’VE SAID THINGS LIKE, WELL,
THEY’VE SAID THINGS LIKE, WELL, THE U.S. HAD A WAR ON TERROR.
THE U.S. HAD A WAR ON TERROR. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE DOING HERE.
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE DOING HERE. >> YOU CAN’T LOCK UP A WHOLE
>> YOU CAN’T LOCK UP A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND SOMEHOW
GROUP OF PEOPLE AND SOMEHOW IDENTIFY THEM AS TERRORISTS IN
IDENTIFY THEM AS TERRORISTS IN ADVANCE.
ADVANCE. A TERROR EVENT ON YOUR OWN
A TERROR EVENT ON YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO PREVENT TERRORISM,
PEOPLE TO PREVENT TERRORISM, THAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.
THAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. >> IF YOU COULD TALK TO YOUR
>> IF YOU COULD TALK TO YOUR SISTER, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
SISTER, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HER NOW?
HER NOW? >> I’M SORRY.
>> I’M SORRY. SHE IS THERE BECAUSE OF ME, BUT
SHE IS THERE BECAUSE OF ME, BUT I WANT TO TELL HER TO STAY
I WANT TO TELL HER TO STAY STRONG.
STRONG. STAY STRONG AND BELIEVE THAT SHE
STAY STRONG AND BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL BE FREE, HOPEFULLY SOME DAY
WILL BE FREE, HOPEFULLY SOME DAY SOON.
SOON. >> IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FOR
>> IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FOR COMMENT ON THE DOCUMENTS CHINESE
COMMENT ON THE DOCUMENTS CHINESE EMBASSY IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
EMBASSY IN THE UNITED KINGDOM TOLD THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER THE
TOLD THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER THE PERSONAL FREEDOM OF THE TRAINEES
PERSONAL FREEDOM OF THE TRAINEES IS FULLY GUARANTEED.
IS FULLY GUARANTEED. THE U.S. RECENTLY OPPOSED
THE U.S. RECENTLY OPPOSED SANCTIONS ON SOME CHINESE
SANCTIONS ON SOME CHINESE COMPANIES IMPLICATED IN THE
COMPANIES IMPLICATED IN THE SURVEILLANCE OF MINORITIES.
