Hello everyone.
Kim Kida: This is the very
first PolePedia show!
Wooo!
So, I am Kim Kida, and
Kim Kida: I'm here
today with Destynnie, my esteemed co-host.
So, why are
Kim Kida: we doing this show?
What is the show even about?
Why are we here?
So,
essentially the PolePedia
show is just to kind
Kim Kida: of branch off of what
our PolePedia website does, so it is a
Kim Kida: community based
resource, and so, so is
the show.
The show is going to talk
pole: on and off the pole.
So, Off the Pole: all about
Kim Kida: pole news, competitions,
workshops, and then general things
within the pole community.
Then, the On the Pole section,
Kim Kida: which starts in the
next two weeks, it's going to
break down,  moves heavily.
How do we condition
Kim Kida: for them?
What are the flexibility
exercises we should do?
Common mistakes, safety
measures, things of that nature.
For our first pole show, we're
Kim Kida: going to start talking
about, let's talk about how to
navigate all of those pole move names.
There are so many of them
for just one simple trick.
How do we get through all of it?
Destynnie Hall: Sure.
It's something that we've all complained
about at one point or another.
What
Kim Kida: is this move called?
How do I
Destynnie Hall: search it on Instagram?
Kim Kida: So
yeah, I want to pass this
off to Destynnie and let her
Kim Kida: talk a little bit about why
we chose this subject to start with.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
So, one thing that I've especially
been seeing lately, since people are
training more at home, they're looking
up their own resources more with COVID,
and with all the lockdowns
Destynnie Hall: going on is
they're posting more content there.
They're trying to search new move
names like, Oh, what do I call this?
Well, I'm not finding it on this hashtag.
So, so what is
Kim Kida: it actually called?
Destynnie Hall: and things like that.
And then you have people come out of
the woodwork and they're sitting there
saying like, why are you calling it this?
It's This.
Or, why are you
posting this and putting it
Destynnie Hall: forward?
Like I saw somebody did a tutorial on
a chopper invert or basic invert
Destynnie Hall: or whatever
you want to call it.
An invert.
And somebody,
Destynnie Hall: somebody got
upset at her and started almost
cyberbullying her because.
it was, that person
Destynnie Hall: had learned
it as a spinning chopper
invert instead of just like,
Kim Kida: Up.
Destynnie Hall: And she was being
told, like to take the video down
and everything like that, it's
like, Okay, this is a problem.
And I'm seeing things like that happen a
lot more now that people are at home more.
Kim Kida: Yeah, we're at home.
So we no longer have, you know, our,
you know, our trusted instructors
giving us names, but just because
our instructors have learned a
certain name doesn't necessarily
mean that it is the end all be all.
and just because they're, you know,
Just because one name is in particular,
maybe the name that you hear the most.
So like, you know, we were talking about
like, you know, how it's an outside,
like hang, or maybe it's a Gemini, right.
Depending on where you're at,
you're going to hear something
different and that's okay.
and so we, you know, There's all of
these different names for everything.
And when we're at the studio, we're
hearing certain things, but then
you start searching for yourself.
Maybe it's a move that you want to
practice, or you're trying to hashtag
your move on Instagram or Facebook.
and you come up with all
the craziest stuff and
you're like, "What even is this?"
Kim Kida: right?
And so when you have this like
name superiority coming out,
it's kind of like in a negative
context, right?
Because
It can be discouraging.
Kim Kida: It can be very  discouraging.
Cause you don't want to feel like
you've learned something wrong.
nothing feels worse than when
you've learned something.
You're like, Oh, they - I
was taught wrong?
So then, you know, even if someone,
if you're listening to these
people who like the superiority,
like in a certain name, if you're
listening to those people and taking
those words to heart.
Kim Kida: Well, that
could maybe sow some like
Kim Kida: distrust within your community,
and things of that nature, right?
You don't really want that.
so personally for me on move names,
I really feel like it's okay to have
multiple ones.
Kim Kida: Both myself
and Destynnie have traveled and, you know,
Kim Kida: been in many different
studios and no matter where you
go there's to be some differences.
Same thing when you travel to a
new country, like, you know, I've
been to the UK, they don't always.
They don't call sneakers
"sneakers" like we do in America.
They call them trainers and that's okay.
I just adapt to that situation.
Right.
I start calling them trainers and instead,
because that's just the culture of where
I go and it doesn't necessarily have to be
cross-country to get a new pole move name.
It could literally be the studio down
the road that calls it
Kim Kida: something just
a little bit different.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
I think it was I've the first
three studios I ever went to.
they
called a leg hang three different
Destynnie Hall: things.
And so when I moved studios, I asked,
I asked this to
Destynnie Hall: the teacher,
like I want to do a Gemini.
And she honestly didn't know
what I was talking about, even
though that's still a very common
name, and she's like,
what - do you mean a leg hang?
And then I felt dumb because then
Destynnie Hall: I'm sitting there going,
okay, well, I'm - at that point I was
brand new to pole - and I'm like, okay,
am I, am I saying something wrong?
Like, do I not know the terminology?
Like I thought I did.
Like, I didn't realize how
insidious it was for there to
be so many different names and
it can be, I think.
Well, Kim, when I first started
talking to you, that was the first time
I heard a Genie called a Froggy.
and
Destynnie Hall: it took me aback.
Cause like, even now I have no idea.
I've always just
known it as Genie.
Kim Kida: yeah, I've been taking
classes with instructors overseas
and I can't remember what it's called
now and that's racking my brain, but
it's, like I call it a Jasmine, some
people call it, I call it a Jasmine.
When I was in Vegas teaching, we
called it a chest man, because
you push through with your chest.
So that's what made sense to us.
But I learned it from an instructor who
learned all of her pole moves in German.
So she had to translate to English for
the pole moves and then bring it to us.
So, I mean, there might have
been some, you know, translation
just changes in between there.
But I've heard it called
many, many different things.
Like there are so many different
things that you could call that move.
but I mean, that applies
to almost all moves.
Even
the simplest of moves, like
Kim Kida: your dip spin
could also be an around the
Kim Kida: world.
Right.
So I don't know of any trick
in particular that really has
like this one, certain name.
Maybe your
shouldermount, but
Kim Kida: that's going to
be, yeah, like about it.
Destynnie Hall: That's kind of what
came to mind is like shoulder mount.
Cause even,
even basic inverts.
It's like
Destynnie Hall: I was talking
about like, there's three different
names for the same type of invert
and.
Yeah.
YI learned
Kim Kida: it as a chopper.
Right.
Because I felt like a helicopter.
I
was like, "whee!"
So I learned
Kim Kida: that as a chopper, but then
later I, you know, I started teaching it.
And so now I'm teaching
it just as an invert.
Right.
Just be upside down, but that doesn't.
To me.
It still doesn't feel very like definitive
because I'm telling you to invert, but
there's a million different
Kim Kida: ways to get upside down.
Right.
There's your handstands,
there's, you know, falling down
into it from like your, your
Jasmine to your outside leg hang,
right.
There's
Kim Kida: a billion different
ways to get upside down.
So there's, you know,
adding the word basic to it.
It's great.
Right.
But I think the biggest thing is
especially, so I'm going to talk a
little bit about how, as a teacher,
I deal with all the different names.
So as a student, I was
just like, Oh, okay.
Like give me more knowledge.
And then kind of wherever I'm at,
that's the terminology I'm going to use.
I don't
want to have people staring
Kim Kida: at me, which is not very fun.
People don't tend to like when you call
it something different, kind of how
you felt a little bit different when
you were like, Oh, can I do a Gemini?
And
she's like, "what is that?".
And you're
Kim Kida: like, ah, Oh,
sorry.
Whoopsie-doodle.
Like,
Kim Kida: did I learn this
wrong?
Am I crazy?
And if you,
Destynnie Hall: if you're not at the
level to actually perform that move,
you have to spend so much time trying to
explain it too.
Oh, that's
Kim Kida: my favorite.
So as a teacher, what I do with this is
when I am teaching a move, I will try
to remember as many names as possible
so that when my students film themselves
and tag stuff on Instagram, right.
They can find the right tags
and it also sticks into their
brain a little bit better.
Right.
So I learned.
The Genie as a Froggy and for
anyone who learned the froggy as the
froggy, you understand what I mean.
But I learned it as the froggy.
It makes a little bit of sense.
You kind of like frogged
up on the pole, right?
A little bit silly, but super funny.
So I learned it as the
froggy and then I moved,
You know, to a different
area started learning
Kim Kida: it as the genie.
And I was like, Oh, okay.
Like, that's fine.
So now I know the different names.
So now when I teach it, I start with
the word froggy because that's the
one that makes the most sense to me.
But then I move and I'm like, all right,
today, we're going to start with our
froggy, but it's also called a genie.
You might hear that somewhere else.
And then I just keep
going on with my life.
Like I don't tell them
which name to prefer it as.
Pretty much, even if my old, you
know, like even my students who have
been with me
for a long
Kim Kida: time, they'll hear me
still call it both just in case.
That's what they are.
Like what their brain is used to
hearing, but at this point they should
be used to hearing like 14 names
for every trick cause that's
Kim Kida: pretty much where we're at.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
And I feel like a lot of the superiority
that comes in is, other people moving
in from these more developed industries.
like you have, in ballet, you
have a name for everything, but
with pole dancing, like.
It
Destynnie Hall: varies from place to
place because it all developed from
the strip clubs where people are just
trying to make a paycheck and teach them.
Yeah, I kind of do this.
We'll
call it ah, we'll call
Destynnie Hall: it this, you know,
like, and we're starting, like,
we're still a very young industry
and we're just now starting to come
into this era where we're like,
okay,
we have a lot of people.
Let's figure stuff out.
And actually start figuring
out what to call everything
standard.
And it's also difficult because
aside from like the move dictionary,
there's no place for that.
There's no platform for that
to happen.
Yeah, no, I mean, pole is just as
Kim Kida: bad.
Big, like, it's honestly
like the biggest like
community activity that
Kim Kida: I've ever been a part of.
I'm sure there's bigger in the world,
but as far as something that I've been
a part of pole is a huge
Kim Kida: community activity.
We build off of each other.
Right.
So if you're scrolling through Instagram
and you're like, I really like that.
Right.
So you'll try it and then tag them
and then you teach your students
and they learn it from you.
And it's just this thing that
you keep going on and on,
we're still creating new moves.
Like there are moves that people
were like, it's a pretty shape.
What's it called?
I have no clue.
I just get into it like this.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
I've had people ask me, like,
what is this exact move?
And I sat there for like 20 minutes.
Like I have no idea.
Kim Kida: You're like, okay,
Destynnie Hall: let's
try to research this.
Yeah.
I'm supposed to know.
Let's research this and like 30
minutes later, I still had no idea X.
I couldn't find anything like
it.
Kim Kida: Image search is not
a help when it comes to pole
dance moves at all.
Kim Kida: I've been there as well.
when you like help, please,
have you ever seen this?
And I'm like, I've never
seen that in my life.
And then I Google image search it.
And it's just all of these,
like people on boats that
I'm like that is not even close
or, or pole vaulters.
Oh, that's
Kim Kida: even better.
But, yeah, so we're like this
huge community and you're right.
There is a bunch of other things
like, you know, ballet or,
you know, swing dancing, any
modern, dance
is
Kim Kida: going to have very
technical terms for what they
Kim Kida: do.
They've been around for a lot longer.
And you know, they're
servicing more people probably
than the pole industry right
Kim Kida: now,
hopefully the pole industry gets
Kim Kida: bigger, but like they're
servicing everyone and obviously
the best to teach everybody
everything right across the board.
Right.
And have something as structured as
like ballet, like you said, is to have
maybe one name, but I'm sure even ballet
has like, in small pockets
Kim Kida: of the world where
people call something just a
little bit different, right.
Even as something as
basic as your pirouette, right.
Kim Kida: We
have the pirouette in pole
Kim Kida: dancing, but it could literally
refer to a couple of different things
depending on where your arms are.
So while these really established
industries have all of these like hardcore
names where you're just like, this is it.
This is the name for this.
We're going to teach
it all over the world.
Everyone agrees.
Pole's not like that.
Kim Kida: You're right.
We are a baby industry, like 20 years,
maybe a little bit more, still a
pretty baby industry across the board.
and I can promise you that when
you're coming up with a new trick
in the strip club, You don't
really care what it's called.
You're just like, they
like it and I get money.
Fantastic.
And when you're trying to
teach someone else, right.
You're just like this, right?
A lot of our names, like a
shoulder mount, very just
Kim Kida: flat on, not a whole,
all bunch of fancy name, like stuff
like the Ayesha, right.
That's
Kim Kida: a, like a fancier name, but
with our shouldermounts, we're
Kim Kida: just
like, because this is a shoulder
Kim Kida: and we go up on it, like, yeah.
I can't imagine when someone named
that, that they were like, booty
in the air, like whatever, right?
Like, yeah.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
I mean, I know the move where you put your
foot up on the pole and you just swing
your other, leg up
around - called a step up!
Easy.
I can remember
Kim Kida: that.
Destynnie Hall: Exactly.
It's like, like what, what are you.
Oh, what are you supposed to
exactly look for when you're
trying to learn this stuff too.
And that's, that's another problem.
It's like people who are looking
for education on this outside of
strip clubs, outside of personal
mentors, personal instructors,
like what are they supposed to look
up?
And that's, that's the other
difficulty that I think we're
just starting to really hit
as an industry.
Kim Kida: It is, and you're you're
right.
COVID's is not making
Kim Kida: it any better, but
in a way, Like, there's the
silver lining to this, right?
COVID happened.
We're all sitting at home.
you know, if you're lucky enough to
have your pole at home, that's great.
but you're still trying to do stuff.
And even if you're not, I promise
you're scrolling Instagram because
if you're pole dancing, you're
addicted, you're scrolling Instagram.
You're like, Oh, this is awesome.
I want to try that when my studio
opens back up and if you don't save
it or, you know, you're, you're
trying to tell your instructor,
like, this is what I want to do.
But they're like, what even is that?
You're trying to explain something to me.
I have no clue what it is.
You show them the shape and they're
like, I've never seen that before.
We'll try and break it down
and then, Oh, guess what a new
name emerges!
right.
Kim Kida: But it's in that one community.
So then that person posts something
on Instagram and they're like,
I did this today and we're going
to call it this and then woo.
It's a cycle.
Right.
So it takes off and there's.
A name for it now, but then other people
are going to call it other things, because
guess what, I promise, if
Kim Kida: one person has taken it to their
instructor and said, what's this, and we
give it a name, at least somebody else in
the world has done the same thing.
Yeah.
And
Destynnie Hall: those branch
off and social media is a very
powerful tool.
Super powerful.
So, once you start hashtagging
Kim Kida: it.
And if a trick goes viral, where like
all of the, you know, pole superstars
are trying this trick and they're
saying, Oh, I really like this.
And this is what it's called.
But you get like, Dan Rosen is calling
it like the super scary leg hang.
Right.
And then somebody else's like
spooky leg on the outside.
Right.
And now you've got two different names.
You've got them coming
from people that are
influencers in the community.
Kim Kida: And then you, you
know, depending on who you
follow, that might be how you
like determin, like which
Kim Kida: move name is
superior, right?
The origins
Kim Kida: of names are
absolutely wackadoodle.
It's super fun to investigate.
but it's just, it's super
crazy,
it drives
Destynnie Hall: me crazy
when there's two of the same
name or the same
Destynnie Hall: name for
two different tricks.
so I remember, I think it was Spiderman
was a move name that I was trying to
find at one point for a themed challenge.
And I was getting what
I later found to be the
Buddha.
I was getting
Destynnie Hall: crucifixes.
I was just getting inverted
crucifixes, and then I was actually
getting like what I was looking for.
So there's three
different tricks under the
same name.
And everybody's
Destynnie Hall: calling them Spiderman.
And like, I think part of it is like,
Themed challenges and things like that.
People are like, well, we'll make up the
shape, but we want it to be this theme.
So we'll call this and we'll
just put this shape to it.
And I've seen that happen too.
Kim Kida: Yeah, no, it,
it gets pretty wild.
Like when, like some of the
names like have some relatively
like cool origins, like, like
your Jamilla, right.
Kim Kida: Named after Jamila,
the amazing instructor.
Right?
So
the Jamilla is named
Kim Kida: after her, which
is really cool, but I've also
heard it called an apprentice.
And I have no clue.
I'd love to know the origin of that one.
I have no clue where that one came
from, but I've heard it in both.
And so
obviously I refer to it
as a Jamilla, but again,
Kim Kida: while teaching I'm like,
Hey, you may also find called this
somewhere else down the line.
And you know,
Kim Kida: I am.
You know, you and I are doing our research
right, for the move dictionary, trying
to find as many names as possible.
Obviously we can't get them all
without community input, but we're
going to attempt to find what we can.
And so with that, I try
to relay to my students.
And while I am a tiny little,
little section of the world, like
hopefully it spirals down so that
people were like, Oh, there are
multiple ways to call this trick.
That's okay.
I preferred this one.
It makes the most sense to me, right.
Because if I call it.
You know, if I call again, let's use
the Jasmine versus the, the chest man.
When I think Jasmine, I think the
princess, and when I do that trick.
Nothing to me clicks and says
princess like that doesn't feel
like a very princessy move,
not to kick myself in the face!
Like that doesn't feel
like a princess move to me.
But when I learned it as the
chest, man, obviously it made sense
because I am pushing with my chest.
I am trying to really keep my
chest up and push my hand down.
So learning as the chest man also
helped me know that like, don't let
your chest droop.
Your chest groups, down you go.
Also your
Kim Kida: shapes going to look
terrible, but like, so some
names make a lot of sense.
And then some don't kind of like
we were talking about right.
With like shoulder mount.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
But, yeah, so I, I'm always curious to
know what the origin is, but if there
are different names for the move, I'm
cool to learn them and will essentially
use whatever I find in that area.
So, yeah.
You know - the current
Kim Kida: studio that I took over, right.
They call them, you know, Gemini
Scorpio instead of inside and
outside leg hangs.
I switched, I start using
Kim Kida: it that way.
Why?
Because I don't want to disrupt
what they've been learning, just
because I want to call
it something different.
Like,
Kim Kida: but I am going to
inform them like, Hey, other
people in the world call it this.
If that's what you want to call it.
Cool.
Otherwise here's some cool information.
Let's keep rolling.
Right?
It's not, well, I call it
this and now you're going to.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
And then you also don't want
to exclude them from that.
Cause when I switched
studios, the apprentice
and Jamilla was a great
Destynnie Hall: example
because I learned it
as
Jamilla and then
Destynnie Hall: I switched
studios and they only
knew it as Apprentice.
They didn't  know Jamilla at all.
Destynnie Hall: And
I was honestly confused cause I thought
that they were two separate moves.
But I was afraid to ask, because
again, like this is back when I was
a baby poler and I still
Destynnie Hall: wasn't sure
about like terminology and.
I was afraid of being wrong.
Kim Kida: Yeah, that makes sense.
For sure.
And so for, I think
Destynnie Hall: it was
going on like six months.
I thought they were two
completely separate moves.
So I just
honestly avoided both.
I never
Kim Kida: want to do either of
those.
Don't talk
Kim Kida: to
me about this.
And it finally
Destynnie Hall: clicked when
somebody.
mis-called it a jamilla and
Destynnie Hall: then corrected themselves
said, Oh, uh, sorry.
I meant Apprentice
Destynnie Hall: and then did the move.
And I'm like,
Oh,
mind blown!
I'm not crazy!
Exactly.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
Kim Kida: yeah, no, the other
thing I've come across recently.
So I, you know, I moved down here
to somewhere in California and, the
other thing I've noticed recently,
just working with a couple of my
students, who prefer like they, them
pronouns - some moves, they don't
prefer the gender aspect on them.
and so that might be
something that we start to
see in the pole community.
Kim Kida: I don't know.
It depends.
I try to be, you know, very
accommodating to everyone.
However they feel.
So great example the Superman.
if I'm working with someone who's
like they them and they don't
want to, they don't, or they
aren't comfortable with that term.
I will switch it.
Just
super person.
Super human.
That's a
Destynnie Hall: great way to do it.
Kim Kida: Yeah.
Like there's a lot of, and even when I
taught, you know, other like other things,
Oh, the greatest example and you, and I
both know how many names this trick has.
Hello boys.
Hello, sailor, big hello.
Right.
or just hello, right?
Like there's a million names for that,
but yeah.
I think it's good to have
Kim Kida: a couple of different things
to fall back on because hello boys, not
everyone wants to say hello to boys,
to be honest with you.
so big hello
works great.
Wrist sit works
Kim Kida: great.
It's
not a gendered thing.
So
Kim Kida: for certain people having a
different name to call it might make them
more comfortable on, you know, on that
kind of level instead of just, Hey, that's
what my old pole studio called
Kim Kida: it.
Now I'm happy.
Some people really just have a
personal preference and that's okay.
Like, I will accommodate
that to the end of the earth.
Like to the best of my ability,
I will be like, all right, we're
going to call it the big hello.
Or if you want to say hello
girls, I'm totally cool with
that too.
Or hello people.
That is literally
Destynnie Hall: what the pole
community is about is like making
sure everybody has the safe space
where they feel
Destynnie Hall: welcome.
So if, if the move names are
making people uncomfortable,
then yeah Change it.
Let's switch
Kim Kida: it up.
Destynnie Hall: Yeah.
Switch it up.
But let's also
Destynnie Hall: reference it and make
sure people all know it's this move.
No matter what
name we're talking about.
Kim Kida: Yeah.
So I both, you and I have said, you
know, when we're teaching, we try
and give as much context as possible.
Right.
I try and hit at least the top three
names of what it could be called.
great example of where I do not hit
all of those names is funky grip.
Funky grip is where you serve
your arm up and you sacrifice your
elbow pit to the gods of pole.
And then you grab up and you can either
grab on top or cup your choice, right?
Depending on what trick you're doing,
Kim Kida: but funky grip
there, like 14 names for that one.
Kim Kida: So I tried to hit
like three and then I move on
with my life because funky grip.
Bicep grip,
dinosaur grip, blood donor grip.
I've definitely
Kim Kida: given blood like this.
Like I try to hit like the
top three names that I think,
Kim Kida: you know, are the most
active in the community, right.
Things that I am seeing the
most and things that you and
I have researched that we see
the most.
So I try to hit those and
Kim Kida: then, you know, tell them
like, Hey, it's very possible that you
come across, it in a different
Kim Kida: name.
These
are not the end all be all names
Kim Kida: of this.
You may hear it as
something totally different.
Yeah.
So.
We talked
Kim Kida: about
the, kind of problem that
Kim Kida: we're seeing, you know, in the
community with, there's
Kim Kida: a lot of names which
isn't necessarily a problem,
as long as it's well documented
and there's something
for you to reference
Kim Kida: and how it can lead
to like some cyber bullying,
which I think is really sad.
pole is supposed
Kim Kida: to be a very happy place.
It's supposed to be a welcoming place.
And of course it's not a.
It's not a group thing without drama,
because as a group, there's going to be
drama somewhere somehow, but I don't think
this should be the drama we focus on.
Right.
Destynnie Hall: I also think
it's very far and few between all
things
considered, which is.
Amazing.
Kim Kida: Yeah, that's fantastic.
the most part people will just
like, kind of give you like a funky
look and they're like, okay, sure.
you know, our culture kind of, we
call it this and then, okay dokey,
like most people will adapt to it.
Right.
And have no issues.
but in the small cases that we
do have, we want to squash those
before, like, you know, before
anything really gets out of control.
Cause that's.
We don't need that.
We're a community of people who are
supposed to uplift each other and
are, you know, in our spaces where we
feel vulnerable, like pole dancing is
something for a lot of people where
they are, have the freedom to feel
sensual or have the freedom to feel
sexual or, you know, just be themselves.
Right.
And so, you know, taking something
that someone's learned and being like.
That's not right.
That's going to take them back at least
a step, down a few notches is they're
like, Oh, I did something
Kim Kida: wrong.
Or they're going to tell
you to go eat it on the
internet, depends on
who you're talking to.
I mean, best
Destynnie Hall: case scenario, it's not
going to be the highlight of their day.
Worst case scenario is kind of an, a
serious damp on their
Destynnie Hall: motivation.
Kim Kida: Absolutely.
Because they're like, well,
now I got to go figure out the
right thing are my people
Kim Kida: teaching me wrong?
Right.
so let's kind of
talk about the move dictionary.
We've referenced
Kim Kida: it a couple of times
and not everybody knows kind
of what the move dictionary is.
So this is something that you dreamed up.
So let's talk a little bit
about how you dreamed
Kim Kida: it up and then
what it's come to now.
Destynnie Hall: yeah.
So seeing a lot of these issues
is honestly the motivation for,
the move dictionary as a concept.
I kept on seeing, like, as I
moved studios, I kept on seeing
this name, this name, this name.
And I kept on seeing like,
people posting on Facebook,
like, Oh, what do you call this?
And then they get 30 million
answers and they're all different.
and.
There wasn't a platform for people
to come together and say like,
this is this move,
Destynnie Hall: and it's called these
things like accepting that, yeah.
We've already made all of these
names and they're not going
to go away and that's fine.
They don't have to.
but we need to know that
they are this move and.
A lot of the other,
video lessons
Destynnie Hall: that I see are always
teaching like this one specific move
and they never reference it at all.
It's just like, this is that move.
And that is all that's
going to be said about it.
Not necessarily in a bad way,
just that's the way it's done.
And so I wanted to
provide a platform where.
You had, here's the most common name?
Well, and it's a lot of
it's community driven.
A lot of it's done by
polls or community input.
This is what we're going to call this.
And it's also called these things.
Here's how you break it down.
Here's safety tips because you shouldn't
have to pay money to not hurt yourself.
Yeah.
And just doing like.
A couple of common mistakes,
how to fix them because people
always have trouble with like
their invert, they have
trouble pulling their
Destynnie Hall: head back, tilting
their head back and lifting the
hips up, because they don't
Destynnie Hall: know
to do those things.
Kim Kida: Yeah.
When you
were a baby poler, you're like,
Kim Kida: well, how do
I, what?
My body is supposed to do what?
Yeah.
So I just,
Destynnie Hall: I wanted to put
together a platform where we could
take all these things under one roof.
Kim Kida: That makes
sense.
Yeah.
so this is
Kim Kida: where I kind of come in.
Right.
Because actively as a
teacher right now, you
know, I love like,
Kim Kida: obviously I love teaching.
I'm obsessed with it.
I have a like serious problem with it.
and so that's something that I really
appreciated it as also
Kim Kida: someone who's
moved around to a couple of
different studios attended
different studios,
Kim Kida: because I do think it's
great to learn from new people, you
know, rather than just like, this
is the teacher that I learned from
and everything I know is from that
person in order for
Kim Kida: me to build my own style,
I'm going to take a little bit from
here and a little bit from there
a little bit from there, right.
But I'm going to go around and
I'm going to, you know, check
out other studios and see what's
happening.
You could always
Kim Kida: learn something
from it different people.
There's always something, right?
Whether it's a move that clicks
because they explained it differently
or, you know, new names or just
tricks in general, like you're
going to learn something new from a
brand new studio or
Kim Kida: an instructor.
Very rarely do I ever walk in the
door of somewhere and learn nothing.
Yeah.
And maybe if I'm making like an intro
class, but I took an intro class at
the studio I'm at now and completely
learned a new way to start people
conditioning for inverts.
And
Kim Kida: I was like, that's amazing.
Like, yes.
So even an intro, no matter
how advanced you are, you can
probably learn something new.
Yeah.
unless you've been doing
it for like 20 years
and you're Fawnia and you created
Kim Kida: a lot
of common pole moves might not
learn anything new as Fawnia.
Unless you're
Destynnie Hall: creating it.
But yeah, I mean, even at that point,
like the majority of us now, like where
we've been doing it for one to 10 years,
there's, there's a couple of the people
who have been doing it for 15 or 20.
And they are generally
Destynnie Hall: teachers,
their instructors, they
lead people through these
moves, but the pole community
Destynnie Hall: has it almost exploded
and just the past couple of years.
And so we're seeing this influx of
completely new pole dancers come
Destynnie Hall: in and they're
needing this new information.
This information
Destynnie Hall: without a prior
background in all these other
tricks, all these more advanced
tricks that they've never heard of.
Kim Kida: Yeah, for sure.
so yeah, so as the, currently,
if you've looked at the move
dictionary, it's me teaching.
Kim Kida: and so the instructions that I
give are not meant to be all encompassing.
I could spend forever teaching you
one move in like a
billion  different ways.
Which starting
Kim Kida: next time we
do the show in two weeks
from now.
That's what
Kim Kida: the
on the pole section is
Kim Kida: of the show is me starting
to break down moves for you.
right.
And so something as basic
as the chair spin, there are
conditioning exercises for that.
There are preps for that and your push
pull, there's all kinds of stuff, right?
And so when you watch like the move
dictionary, it is to give you a good idea.
It's also to give you
safety measures, right?
Because that's not something
I cover in my video, but it is
something that Destynnie and I come
Kim Kida: up with together.
Like, what's the safest way for
you to come out of this move?
How do you not hurt your
wrist when you do it?
Things like that.
Right.
And so with the move
dictionary, we give you.
You know a gif, right?
If
Kim Kida: you don't want to watch my
video and listen to me, talk cool.
If you get it
from the gif, awesome.
Kim Kida: Do you want to watch
my video and listen to me talk
cause that's how you learn?
Cool.
Awesome.
You read better if you, you know,
if, if reading that move is the
best way for you to receive that
information, that's why we have all
three, but not only do we have all of
that, like Destynnie said, we have all
Kim Kida: of
the names.
you know,
Kim Kida: as someone who was
a baby poler, at one
Kim Kida: point, obviously,
I did look at stuff like,
you know 123poling Cleos rock n' pole,
Kim Kida: you know, all of those things
and you do learn stuff differently.
Again, namings.
Yeah.
Sometimes they'll come up with their
own names and then I'm like, okay, cool.
Well now we, we should add
that as a reference because
it's valid to call it that.
Because other people are
gonna call it as well.
but you know, I'm used to hearing
it this way and that's okay.
Right.
So then we add that as a
reference, like this is also what
is being called somewhere else.
So if you hear it, you
know what you're looking
for specifically.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kim Kida: So
the, the pole dictionary
Kim Kida: is a dictionary, but
also a thesaurus.
Kim Kida: I really think
that, you know, kind of in the
end, the pole move names
Kim Kida: should be viewed as
synonyms and not, you know, people
like trying to, again, like rarely
do we see or come across, like
move superiority, like complexes.
But I do think that they should be
viewed as synonyms, completely
Kim Kida: across the board.
I don't see the poll community
becoming any less community driven
in the next, you know, decade or so.
Like, you know, it's going to
take a really long time before
there's a lot of structure.
and so in the meantime, between
time, that's why we're here trying
to gather as much information
as possible to put together.
Now, if you see a name on the card,
So if I like teach the froggy, you
know, and that's a move dictionary
move, you could still search it
by the genie and come across it.
That's the whole point of that, right.
Is, so if you see a name
on the card, the name
is because Destynnie and I have
Kim Kida: done research
and we said, you know
what?
All the people on
Kim Kida: Instagram are
calling it the froggy.
By
Kim Kida: the way they're
all calling it the genie.
so, you know, everyone's calling
it the genie, so that's what
we're going to put up there.
That's the name, but we are not
saying that's the end all be all name.
We're saying that's the most popular
name, but if you wanted to find it
by the froggy, you totally could.
Destynnie Hall: Exactly.
And between that and
prerequisite moves.
everything's
Destynnie Hall: linked.
If you, if you want to learn this well,
make sure you know, these things first.
things like that.
I think that the move dictionary
is going to really be a place to
start helping bring that structure
together in the community.
And, so far we've received a lot
of good input from the community.
A lot of people saying like, Hey, I
really love this has helped me a lot.
And also people saying like,
Hey, I heard it like this.
Yeah.
Like adding,
adding like on.
Compliments
Destynnie Hall: are awesome.
And also we want
everybody to add their voice
Destynnie Hall: too,
because there's a community
Kim Kida: feedback is super important.
So if you come across something
and you're like, I have not
heard of that as any of these
Kim Kida: names, I hear it as this,
let us know the move to generic as a
living breathing section of the website.
So is the entirety
of PolePedia right.
Pole changes.
And
Kim Kida: we change with it.
Right.
We try and keep up.
and so.
It's a living,
Kim Kida: breathing document.
We want you to, to interact with us.
We want you to tell us that,
Hey, this is how I learned it.
Can you add this name?
Absolutely something we've
forgotten in the safety
Kim Kida: measures?
Tell us we will add it, right?
Yeah.
We don't, you know, our intent is
not to be like, we're the experts
of the experts of the experts.
No, we're two people who really
freaking love pole, and we want
Kim Kida: to create this community
resource, but it's got to have
the community behind it to
become a community resource.
So you come across it and you're
like, none of this applies to me.
Let us know, let us help
accommodate for you as well.
Destynnie Hall: Right.
Yeah.
And we also have a lot of people saying
like, Hey, I want to learn this stuff.
So we add it into our, we have a little
queue of moves that we go down and video
and build out on the move dictionary.
And we'll add that into the queue.
Kim Kida: Yeah.
So, because today we don't have our
on the pole section.
Kim Kida: This is probably going to
be about the wrap up for the show.
so thank you if you watch
and if you are watching us on YouTube
Kim Kida: later, hello YouTube people.
We understand that everyone
is in different times zones.
So this may not be the best time for you.
You
can catch us later.
Kim Kida: but yeah, so.
Thank you Destynnie for our first
Kim Kida: show also.
Congratulations, PolePedia two
Kim Kida: years.
Destynnie Hall: Yes.
Today it is two years.
And thank you, Kim.
Kim Kida: so yeah, everyone, thank
you for joining us, listening
to our names, listening to our
move name discussion,
Kim Kida: where we talked about all
the names, how to navigate them, and
then, you know, if you want to help
build out the community resource, you
want a voice in how things are named,
how they're taught, let us know.
Until then we'll see you next time.
Bye everybody.
