bulging killers joining us in south from
los angeles to speak for himself in
addition to his recent primetime talk
show on msnbc and changing their blogs
at several of our website so it was a
popular internet radio show called the
young turks tranquil continue my
personality happened
well it's exactly as i explain a lien
turks uh...
you know uh... by was going on to the
program you know they did have early on
some stylistic comments
on china listen to them you know in
terms of body language the only their
arms act like a senator
i don't know why you want to talk shows
that when senator byrd at the finest
immediately or working in a far more
bill internet and you know it's
different in warning on television
and youth
you know i think those points is no
problem at all but it they brought
when they called me and phil griffin
gave me this big speech about how
uh... where the establishment in and be
cool to be like outsiders but we're not
where insiders
and we have to act like it
and i remember thing at the time there's
no way i'm gonna do that truck bomb in a
given what i got
and then if they like it they like it if
they don't they don't and honestly i
don't know which way they were dealt
with it because i know how much they
care about ratings
so i figured if i delivered good ratings
for that'll probably do the job well he
didn't 'cause i delivered
really good ratings of beating c_n_n_
signifi handily
and also uh... do improving upon the
numbers from last year so there's no
question
about the ratings and then they told me
and said i well you know we're going to
go to different erection at six o'clock
anyway and when i ask you about it
they didn't really have a good answers
to why leading me to believe that that
giant conversation we had three months
ago might've been part of the recent
in december of last year phil donahue
joined eliot spitzer and kathleen parker
and her shirt to discuss his ouster from
msnbc during the run-up to the invasion
of iraq donohue was the lone journalist
arrington publicly oppose the work that
they alwar
at south onset
by post war any papers that one of the
reasons that michelle or agreed that
memo that was by the new york times is
anywhere void
is not going to work against the flag
waving on the other stations
donahue and and the antiwar boris
yeltsin thousand to but there are other
all doing what i think that now final
channel is enough
would not criticize this war four months
before the invasion it was not good for
business yet general electric had no
interesting featuring ronald talk show
hosts who is against the president's war
hit list
it was unpopular q one american
this is what you get the corporate
nearly
missus it's going to happen again
thank you very very dangerous the
situation compared to that of phil
donahue's do you think al sharpton were
taken very different political line then
you would
so there's a couple of different things
here first of all uh... it's not just
phil donahue uh...
i'd just ventura on the young turks
uh... a little while ago maybe over a
year ago and what the law remembers that
he also had a big contract from msnbc at
the time to do a show and ed they told
them you-know-what
it's okay
take the money you don't even have to do
the show
why he said they found out that that he
was against iraq war and said that's ok
we don't want john engler
and that actually banfield when she gave
a great speech in kansas about how
the war didn't make any sense she went
from their star reporter
to literally being moved into a closet
anyone in the letter out of our contract
soci one other network in had talked to
his unbelievable now
the decision areas
donahue mentor band fillmore all under
different management at msnbc
so you have to be clear on that you can
put that on them but the similarity is
that it is corporate media right and
whether it's the pressure to go right to
pressure to go left pressure to if he's
the bush administration oppression at if
he's all bombing administration did
exist and it's not just msnbc you think
that this c_n_n_ host can aggressively
challenged government officials
i don't think so it doesn't look that
way at all
and of course many of the box is there a
whole different animal there's
purely propaganda so it looked as if it
is not an issue of just msnbc management
now no
but jack also there are several a
liberal whole salon msnbc but they also
managed to be basically very supportive
of the obama administration or perhaps
one of the most critical holes in terms
of raising questions about your mom
administration's policies
well there's no question that i was by
far the only supportive of old bombing
ministration i saw you last segment and
i couldn't agree more with your guest i
think president bombers
clearly
you know republican now i know because
in the nineteen nineties i was a
republican
and here's why do the right of me and
i've hardly changed any positions
the political spectrum has shifted
massively to the right in this country
and nobody wants to talk about it
and all bomb a that you know supporters
i don't know what they want the host to
do
so we fought so hard to make sure that
within cut social security
so are we supposed to cheer when all
bamaca social security
uh... we fought so hard to make sure
that bush and yet more tax cuts the rats
are we suppose that chair one oh bombing
is more tax cuts the ridge analyst goes
on and not now
uh... it's very important for me to make
this distinction cuz i really believe it
the host or totally different
than the management
and it is an interesting way that you it
choir power within these corporate
organizations right
i think we show that i was done a
brilliant job
in becoming more and more independent
and ivy she does though at fantastic
progress and show
and she did it by accruing power by
getting better and better ratings and e
so my dve is not with anybody on a rat
uh... msnbc at all i think it should
also strong show
uh... and you know what you think we
have trace evidence i wanna have all you
the ag msnbc said they were offering you
a better position to respond to that
well better isn't allot more money uh...
but it was for weekend hosting and offer
a contributor or
well we're gonna have to leave it there
is no are go ahead five seconds
so it's not like there was a disgruntled
employee or not just didn't want to do
the kind of programming they wanted me
to do gently around thank you for being
with us to the young turk this is
democracy now i mean you can't find
financing costs
