>> RIGHT NOW, MORE OF OUR ONGOING SERIES ON SOLUTIONS.
ONGOING SERIES ON SOLUTIONS. SAVANNAH YOU, SPOKE EXCLUSIVELY
SAVANNAH YOU, SPOKE EXCLUSIVELY TO MELINDA GATES.
TO MELINDA GATES. >> THAT’S RIGHT.
>> THAT’S RIGHT. FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, SHE AND
FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, SHE AND HER HUSBAND HAVE DEDICATED THEIR
HER HUSBAND HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES AND MONEY TO GLOBAL HEALTH
LIVES AND MONEY TO GLOBAL HEALTH FIGHTING INFECTIOUS DISEASES.
FIGHTING INFECTIOUS DISEASES. THROUGH THE BILL AND MELINDA
THROUGH THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES SHE’S TRAVELED THE WORLD
GATES SHE’S TRAVELED THE WORLD WORKING ON VACCINES FORCE
WORKING ON VACCINES FORCE DISEASES LIKE MALARIA.
DISEASES LIKE MALARIA. NOW THEY ARE LASER FOCUSED ON
NOW THEY ARE LASER FOCUSED ON CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. THEY HAVE COMMITTED MORE THAN $3
THEY HAVE COMMITTED MORE THAN $3 MILLION TO FIND A VACCINE.
MILLION TO FIND A VACCINE. I SPOKE TO HER ABOUT WHERE THAT
I SPOKE TO HER ABOUT WHERE THAT STANDS.
STANDS. A MAINLY WEAKNESS IN THE ECONOMY
A MAINLY WEAKNESS IN THE ECONOMY SHE BELIEVES WE HAVE A CHANCE TO
SHE BELIEVES WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ADDRESS RIGHT NOW.
ADDRESS RIGHT NOW. >> AS YOU SURVEY THE SCENE OF
>> AS YOU SURVEY THE SCENE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS PANDEMIC, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT
PANDEMIC, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT OUR TRAJECTORY?
ABOUT OUR TRAJECTORY? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE’S A PLAN?
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE’S A PLAN? >> I FEEL LIKE WE STILL ARE AT
>> I FEEL LIKE WE STILL ARE AT THE BEGINNING STAGES OF THIS
THE BEGINNING STAGES OF THIS PANDEMIC, WE’VE SEEN THE FIRST
PANDEMIC, WE’VE SEEN THE FIRST PART OF IT.
PART OF IT. TO REOPEN WE NEED TO DO FAR MORE
TO REOPEN WE NEED TO DO FAR MORE TESTING AND TRACING, AND WE NEED
TESTING AND TRACING, AND WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND GO VERY
TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND GO VERY SLOWLY AS WE REOPEN.
SLOWLY AS WE REOPEN. YOU SHOULD NEVER BE REOPENING IN
YOU SHOULD NEVER BE REOPENING IN PLACES WHERE YOU’VE GOT
PLACES WHERE YOU’VE GOT ACCELERATING DISEASE.
ACCELERATING DISEASE. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE SEARCH
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE SEARCH FOR A VACCINE, THE GATES
FOR A VACCINE, THE GATES FOUNDATION, YOU AND YOUR
FOUNDATION, YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND, BILL GATES, ARE VERY
HUSBAND, BILL GATES, ARE VERY MUCH IN THE FOREFRONT.
MUCH IN THE FOREFRONT. YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR
YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS TRYING TO FIND A
MOUTH IS TRYING TO FIND A VACCINE.
VACCINE. WHAT’S THE STATUS OF THAT RIGHT
WHAT’S THE STATUS OF THAT RIGHT NOW?
NOW? >> WELL, I THINK JUST AS YOU’RE
>> WELL, I THINK JUST AS YOU’RE HEARING FROM EVERYBODY ELSE,
HEARING FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, IT’S ABOUT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
IT’S ABOUT 12 TO 18 MONTHS. WE GET INFORMATION PRETTY MUCH
WE GET INFORMATION PRETTY MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS ABOUT THE
ON A DAILY BASIS ABOUT THE VARIOUS VACCINE CANDIDATES THAT
VARIOUS VACCINE CANDIDATES THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THAT
ARE MOVING THROUGH THAT PIPELINE.
PIPELINE. LUCKILY IT’S LOOKING LIKE THERE
LUCKILY IT’S LOOKING LIKE THERE ARE A FEW GOOD CANDIDATES.
ARE A FEW GOOD CANDIDATES. TO BE FRANK, THAT’S A RELIEF.
TO BE FRANK, THAT’S A RELIEF. >> THERE WAS A REPORT THAT THE
>> THERE WAS A REPORT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A INITIATIVE
ADMINISTRATION HAS A INITIATIVE OPERATION WARP SPEED AND THE
OPERATION WARP SPEED AND THE GOAL IS QUITE AMBITIOUS, TO HAVE
GOAL IS QUITE AMBITIOUS, TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF VACCINE
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF VACCINE DOSES AS EARLY AS JANUARY.
DOSES AS EARLY AS JANUARY. I ASKED DR. FAUCI IS THAT EVEN
I ASKED DR. FAUCI IS THAT EVEN IN THE REALM OF THE POSSIBLE, HE
IN THE REALM OF THE POSSIBLE, HE SAID IT WAS.
SAID IT WAS. SO IT MAY BE POSSIBLE.
SO IT MAY BE POSSIBLE. DO YOU THINK IT’S LIKELY,
DO YOU THINK IT’S LIKELY, KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SEARCH FOR A VACCINE?
SEARCH FOR A VACCINE? >> YOU KNOW, BOY, THAT WOULD BE
>> YOU KNOW, BOY, THAT WOULD BE LUCKY TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF
LUCKY TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOSES BY JANUARY.
MILLIONS OF DOSES BY JANUARY. I’M NOT SURE HOW LIKELY THAT IS.
I’M NOT SURE HOW LIKELY THAT IS. THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, BECAUSE
THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KNOW THEY ARE SAFE.
WE HAVE TO KNOW THEY ARE SAFE. I’M HOPEFUL.
I’M HOPEFUL. BUT WHEN I SAY IT’S LIKELY,
BUT WHEN I SAY IT’S LIKELY, MIGHT HESITATE A BIT ON THAT
MIGHT HESITATE A BIT ON THAT ONE.
ONE. >> THIS PANDEMIC HAS CERTAINLY
>> THIS PANDEMIC HAS CERTAINLY EXPOSED WEAKNESSES AND
EXPOSED WEAKNESSES AND STRENGTHS.
STRENGTHS. YOU’RE FOCUSING ON ONE OF THE
YOU’RE FOCUSING ON ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES THAT’S BEEN EXPOSED
WEAKNESSES THAT’S BEEN EXPOSED HERE, AND THAT’S HOW WE TAKE
HERE, AND THAT’S HOW WE TAKE CARE OF OUR CAREGIVERS.
CARE OF OUR CAREGIVERS. WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO TAKE ON
WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO TAKE ON THIS ISSUE?
THIS ISSUE? >> IF WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT
>> IF WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT REOPENING OUR ECONOMY, WE HAVE
REOPENING OUR ECONOMY, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST
TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST ESSENTIAL WORKERS.
ESSENTIAL WORKERS. 85% OF NURSES ARE WOMEN, AND YET
85% OF NURSES ARE WOMEN, AND YET WHO IS THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER AT
WHO IS THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER AT HOME?
HOME? WOMEN.
WOMEN. WHO IS THE PRIMARY ONE FOR
WHO IS THE PRIMARY ONE FOR EDUCATING THE KIDS?
EDUCATING THE KIDS? WOMEN.
WOMEN. >> WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF
>> WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT FOR SOCIETY IF THE BURDEN
THAT FOR SOCIETY IF THE BURDEN IS FALLING SO DISPROPORTIONATELY
IS FALLING SO DISPROPORTIONATELY ON WOMEN.
ON WOMEN. >> WHEN CARE GIVING FALLS TO
>> WHEN CARE GIVING FALLS TO WOMEN, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY THEN
WOMEN, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY THEN CAN’T GO DO THEIR JOBS IN
CAN’T GO DO THEIR JOBS IN SOCIETY.
SOCIETY. THEY START TO LOSE INCOME.
THEY START TO LOSE INCOME. THEIR FAMILIES START TO LOSE
THEIR FAMILIES START TO LOSE INCOME.
INCOME. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE SOLUTIONS.
SOLUTIONS. THERE ARE POLLTY, BUSINESS
THERE ARE POLLTY, BUSINESS SOLUTION THAT IS CAN HELP.
SOLUTION THAT IS CAN HELP. >> WHAT’S THE NUMBER ONE POLICY
>> WHAT’S THE NUMBER ONE POLICY THAT CONGRESS COULD ENACT TO
THAT CONGRESS COULD ENACT TO ALLEVIATE THIS BURDEN ON
ALLEVIATE THIS BURDEN ON CAREGIVERS.
CAREGIVERS. >> THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT
>> THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT A PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE
A PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE POLICY.
POLICY. WE ARE THE ONLY -- THE ONLY
WE ARE THE ONLY -- THE ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED NATION IN THE
INDUSTRIALIZED NATION IN THE WORLD THAT DOES NOT HAVE PAID
WORLD THAT DOES NOT HAVE PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE, AND THAT
FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE, AND THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.
NEEDS TO CHANGE. >> WHEN RESOURCES ARE ALREADY SO
>> WHEN RESOURCES ARE ALREADY SO STRAINED, IT’S QUITE AMBITIOUS
STRAINED, IT’S QUITE AMBITIOUS TO SAY NOW IS THE TIME WE NEED
TO SAY NOW IS THE TIME WE NEED MORE PAID LEAVE.
MORE PAID LEAVE. HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO
HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO ACT ON THIS NOW AT A TIME WHEN
ACT ON THIS NOW AT A TIME WHEN FRANKLY THEY FEEL NERVOUS ABOUT
FRANKLY THEY FEEL NERVOUS ABOUT THIS?
THIS? >> I THINK WE’VE ALWAYS HAD THIS
>> I THINK WE’VE ALWAYS HAD THIS FALSE NARRATIVE OF THIS IS
FALSE NARRATIVE OF THIS IS EXPENSIVE SO WE’RE NOT GOING TO
EXPENSIVE SO WE’RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
DO IT. THIS IS ALREADY COSTING US.
THIS IS ALREADY COSTING US. IT IS COSTING US OUR HEALTH.
IT IS COSTING US OUR HEALTH. YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS PIECE
YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS PIECE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE HEALTH CARE
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE HEALTH CARE WORKERS, NURSES OUT THERE, WILL
WORKERS, NURSES OUT THERE, WILL 5% OF WHOM
5% OF WHOM 85% OF WHOM ARE WOMEN OUT THERE
85% OF WHOM ARE WOMEN OUT THERE WORKING.
WORKING. IT’S NOT EITHER-OR, IT’S A
IT’S NOT EITHER-OR, IT’S A FUNDAMENTAL TO ACTUALLY
FUNDAMENTAL TO ACTUALLY REOPENING THE ECONOMY.
REOPENING THE ECONOMY. >> YOU MADE NO SECRET TO YOUR
>> YOU MADE NO SECRET TO YOUR DISAGREEMENT WITH THE WHITE
DISAGREEMENT WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE PRESIDENT’S
HOUSE AND THE PRESIDENT’S DECISION TO HALT FUNDING FOR THE
DECISION TO HALT FUNDING FOR THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. DO YOU FIND ANY FAULT WITH HOW
DO YOU FIND ANY FAULT WITH HOW THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS CONDUCTED ITSELF IN THE
HAS CONDUCTED ITSELF IN THE PANDEMIC, PARTICULARLY IN THE
PANDEMIC, PARTICULARLY IN THE BEGINNING STAGES?
BEGINNING STAGES? >> IT’S NOT A PERFECT
>> IT’S NOT A PERFECT INSTITUTION.
INSTITUTION. NO INSTITUTION IS PERFECT.
NO INSTITUTION IS PERFECT. I THINK THERE WILL BE TIME TO GO
I THINK THERE WILL BE TIME TO GO BACK AND DO A POSTMORTEM WHEN WE
BACK AND DO A POSTMORTEM WHEN WE COME OUT OF THIS CRISIS.
COME OUT OF THIS CRISIS. BUT I DON’T BELIEVE WITH MY
BUT I DON’T BELIEVE WITH MY INSTITUTION YOU DO A POSTMORTEM
INSTITUTION YOU DO A POSTMORTEM WHILE YOU’RE IN THE CRISIS.
WHILE YOU’RE IN THE CRISIS. >> YOUR HUSBAND FAMOUSLY WARNED
>> YOUR HUSBAND FAMOUSLY WARNED ABOUT A PANDEMIC BACK IN 2015.
ABOUT A PANDEMIC BACK IN 2015. HE SAID THEN WE WEREN’T
HE SAID THEN WE WEREN’T PREPARED.
PREPARED. EVEN SO, ARE YOU SURPRISED AT
EVEN SO, ARE YOU SURPRISED AT HOW THE U.S. HAS RESPONDED?
HOW THE U.S. HAS RESPONDED? ARE YOU SURPRISED WE WEREN’T
ARE YOU SURPRISED WE WEREN’T BETTER PREPARED?
BETTER PREPARED? >> I’M BOTH SURPRISED WE WEREN’T
>> I’M BOTH SURPRISED WE WEREN’T BETTER PREPARED.
BETTER PREPARED. BUT QUITE HONESTLY, I’M
BUT QUITE HONESTLY, I’M SURPRISED WE WASTED SO MUCH
SURPRISED WE WASTED SO MUCH TIME, THAT WE HAVEN’T HAD
TIME, THAT WE HAVEN’T HAD LEADERSHIP AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL
LEADERSHIP AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL TO GET OUT TESTS IN THE RIGHT
TO GET OUT TESTS IN THE RIGHT WAY, PROTECTIVE GEAR IN THE
WAY, PROTECTIVE GEAR IN THE RIGHT WAY, CONTACT TRACING IN
RIGHT WAY, CONTACT TRACING IN THE RIGHT WAY.
THE RIGHT WAY. WITH LACK OF LEADERSHIP, THERE
WITH LACK OF LEADERSHIP, THERE ARE 50 HOME GROWN STATE
ARE 50 HOME GROWN STATE SOLUTIONS.
SOLUTIONS. THAT JUST SHOULDN’T BE.
THAT JUST SHOULDN’T BE. WHEN YOU SEE A COMPANY LIKE
WHEN YOU SEE A COMPANY LIKE GERMANY WITH NATIONAL
GERMANY WITH NATIONAL LEADERSHIP, THEY WERE ABLE TO
LEADERSHIP, THEY WERE ABLE TO KEEP CERTAIN SECTORS OF THE
KEEP CERTAIN SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY OPEN SAFELY, KEEP PEOPLE
ECONOMY OPEN SAFELY, KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, MOSTLY SOCIAL DISTANCING,
SAFE, MOSTLY SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND NOW START TO SLOWLY REOPEN
AND NOW START TO SLOWLY REOPEN BASED ON THE SCIENCE.
BASED ON THE SCIENCE. THAT’S THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP WE
THAT’S THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP WE SHOULD EXPECT AS CITIZENS IN
SHOULD EXPECT AS CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE’RE NOT
THIS COUNTRY AND WE’RE NOT GETTING IT.
GETTING IT. WE HAVEN’T GOTTEN IT YET DURING
WE HAVEN’T GOTTEN IT YET DURING THIS CRISIS, SO YOU’RE SEEING
THIS CRISIS, SO YOU’RE SEEING WHAT’S HAPPENING, AND IT’S
WHAT’S HAPPENING, AND IT’S CHAOS.
CHAOS. >> THAT’S PRETTY BLUNT.
>> THAT’S PRETTY BLUNT. DO YOU LAY THE BLAME AT THE FEET
DO YOU LAY THE BLAME AT THE FEET OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?
OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION? >> I’M DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I’M
>> I’M DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I’M SAYING, YES.
SAYING, YES. >> WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE RIGHT
>> WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE RIGHT NOW?
NOW? >> I GET AMAZING HOPE AND
>> I GET AMAZING HOPE AND INSPIRATION FROM THE FRONTLINE
INSPIRATION FROM THE FRONTLINE HEALTH CARE WORKERS WHO ARE
HEALTH CARE WORKERS WHO ARE GOING IN AND DOING THEIR JOBS
GOING IN AND DOING THEIR JOBS EVERY DAY IN VERY DIFFICULT
EVERY DAY IN VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
CIRCUMSTANCES. THEN I GET MASSIVE HOPE TALKING
THEN I GET MASSIVE HOPE TALKING TO THE SCIENTISTS AND THE MANY
TO THE SCIENTISTS AND THE MANY PARTNERS FROM INDUSTRY.
PARTNERS FROM INDUSTRY. WHEN I SEE PEOPLE COMING
WHEN I SEE PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER IN COLLABORATION TO DO
TOGETHER IN COLLABORATION TO DO THE RIGHT THING, TO SHARE THE
THE RIGHT THING, TO SHARE THE SCIENCE, TO SHARE WHAT WE DO
SCIENCE, TO SHARE WHAT WE DO KNOW AND LEARN, THAT’S THE BEST
KNOW AND LEARN, THAT’S THE BEST OF HUMANITY, AND IT PEACE ME
OF HUMANITY, AND IT PEACE ME HOPEFUL AND MAKES ME KNOW WE ARE
HOPEFUL AND MAKES ME KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS
GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS PANDEMIC.
PANDEMIC. >> IT’S REALLY INTERESTING TO
>> IT’S REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR HER TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
HEAR HER TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE VACCINE CANDIDATES THAT NOBODY
VACCINE CANDIDATES THAT NOBODY WANTS TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE
WANTS TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BUT SAYING THERE ARE A FEW
HORSE BUT SAYING THERE ARE A FEW THAT LOOK VERY PROMISING.
THAT LOOK VERY PROMISING. SO IT’S VERY HOPEFUL, BECAUSE
SO IT’S VERY HOPEFUL, BECAUSE THEY ARE WATCHING ALL THESE
THEY ARE WATCHING ALL THESE DIFFERENT TRIALS THAT ARE
DIFFERENT TRIALS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. THEY ARE FUNDING A LOT OF IT.
THEY ARE FUNDING A LOT OF IT. SO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT’S
SO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE SEARCH FOR A
HAPPENING WITH THE SEARCH FOR A VACCINE.
VACCINE. >> SHE SOUNDED CAUTIOUSLY
>> SHE SOUNDED CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC.
OPTIMISTIC. I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED HEARING
I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED HEARING WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY ON PAID
WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY ON PAID MEDICAL LEAVE AND YOU EITHER PAY
MEDICAL LEAVE AND YOU EITHER PAY FOR IT ON THE FRONT END OR THE
FOR IT ON THE FRONT END OR THE BACK END AS WELL.
BACK END AS WELL. >> SHE’S DEFINITELY FIRED UP, A
>> SHE’S DEFINITELY FIRED UP, A BIG ADVOCATE.
BIG ADVOCATE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. SHERYL SANDBERG FROM FACEBOOK
SHERYL SANDBERG FROM FACEBOOK JUST WROTE SOMETHING ON THE SAME
JUST WROTE SOMETHING ON THE SAME TOPIC.
TOPIC. CARE GIVING AND HOW WE CARE FOR
CARE GIVING AND HOW WE CARE FOR OUR CAREGIVERS, REALLY RELEVANT
OUR CAREGIVERS, REALLY RELEVANT ISSUE, MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER,
ISSUE, MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER, WHEN WE SEE SO MANY PEOPLE
WHEN WE SEE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF SENIORS,
HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF SENIORS, ALSO TAKING CARE OF THEIR KID
ALSO TAKING CARE OF THEIR KID AND HAVING TO DO THEIR JOBS AS
