>> Announcer: THIS IS CBC "HERE
& NOW."
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>> PHYSICAL DISTANCE IS REQUIRED
IN EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE SPACE IN THE PROVINCE OF
NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR EXCEPT
AT SCHOOL.
[Applause]
>> Carolyn: A RALLY AT
CONFEDERATION BUILDING TO
PROTEST THE BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLAN
AS THE EDUCATION MINISTER
ANNOUNCES NEW CHANGES, INCLUDING
MORE BUSES.
>> Reporter: THE REGULATIONS
ABOUT WHEN HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
HAVE TO WEAR THESE IN CLASS HAVE
CHANGED.
I'LL HAVE MORE COMING UP ON
"HERE & NOW."
>> Reporter: IT'S CRUISE SHIP
SEASON IN CORNER BROOK BUT, OF
COURSE, THERE ARE NO CRUISE
SHIPS.
>> WE WERE ON TRACK TO BE AT
10 MILLION THIS YEAR, SO VERY,
VERY SIGNIFICANT LOSSES FOR THE
REGION.
>> Reporter: THAT'S ALL
BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
I'LL TELL YOU HOW THAT'S
IMPACTING THE PORT AND THE CITY.
>> Ashley: THE CALENDAR MAY
SAY SEPTEMBER, BUT THAT DOESN'T
MEAN THAT WE'LL SAY GOODBYE TO
THE SUMMER-LIKE WEATHER.
>> Anthony: GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO "HERE & NOW."
I'M ANTHONY GERMAIN.
>> Carolyn: AND I'M CAROLYN
STOKES.
EDUCATION IS OUR FOCUS TONIGHT.
A RALLY IS WRAPPING UP AT
CONFEDERATION BUILDING AT THIS
HOUR WHERE TEACHERS AND PARENTS
ARE LOBBYING FOR MORE SUPPORTS
AS CLASSES ARE SET TO BEGIN NEXT
WEEK.
WE'LL HAVE A LIVE REPORT FROM
PETER COWAN JUST AHEAD.
>>> BUT SOME OF THE TEACHERS'
DEMANDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MET
WITH AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY BY
EDUCATION MINISTER TOM OSBORNE.
HE ANNOUNCED A LONG LIST OF
CHANGES FOR STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS REGARDING MASKS, PUBLIC
EXAMS, BUSING AND MORE.
"HERE & NOW'S" HEATHER GILLIS
HAS OUR TOP STORY.
>> YOU'RE IN RIGHT PLACE.
>> Reporter: SCHOOL REOPENS IN
JUST OVER A WEEK, BUT TEACHERS
HEAD BACK TOMORROW TO PREPARE
FOR THE YEAR AHEAD.
TODAY MINISTER TOM OSBORNE SAID
THERE WILL BE CHANGES, INCLUDING
MASKS.
MANDATORY FOR STUDENTS SEVEN TO
12 WHEN PHYSICAL DISTANCING OF
ONE METRE OR MORE IS NOT
POSSIBLE IN THE CLASSROOM.
>> IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS
RAISED BY EDUCATORS PRIMARILY ON
SOCIAL DISTANCING WITHIN
CLASSES.
>> Reporter: ANOTHER CHANGE --
MORE BUSES.
OSBOURNE SAYS THAT MORE THAN
6,000 STUDENTS IN THE PROVINCE
WILL NOW HAVE A RIDE TO SCHOOL.
>> BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER,
EVERY STUDENT WHO IS ELIGIBLE
FOR SCHOOL BUSING WILL HAVE
SCHOOL BUSING.
IT WON'T ALL BE IN PLACE THE
FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
>> Reporter: JANUARY'S PUBLIC
EXAMS ARE CANCELLED.
HE'LL MAKE A CALL ON JUNE'S
EXAMS LATER.
OSBOURNE ALSO SAYS THAT THERE
WILL BE MORE STUDENT ASSISTANTS,
PUBLIC HEALTH, AND OCCUPATIONAL
HEALTH AND SAFETY RESOURCES.
AND THERE WILL BE RESOURCES FOR
VIRTUAL LEARNING FOR STUDENTS
AND FAMILIES WHO ARE
IMMUNOCOMPROMISED.
>> WE HAVE TO BALANCE HERE,
OBVIOUSLY, THE NEED FOR
EDUCATION FOR THE SOCIALIZATION
OF STUDENTS, FOR THE MENTAL
HEALTH WELL-BEING OF STUDENTS BY
BEING BACK IN SCHOOL.
WE HAVE ALSO TO LOOK AT HEALTH
MEASURES.
>> TWO METRES IS REQUIRED IN A
COMMUNITY CENTRE.
WHY IS THE SAME STANDARD NOT
APPLICABLE TO OUR SCHOOLS?
>> Reporter: TEACHERS CALL
TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT PROGRESS.
BUT DEAN INGRAM SAYS THAT HE'S
HAVING TROUBLE RATIONALIZING WHY
THERE'S STILL A DISKREMMANCEY
BETWEEN THE PUBLIC HEALTH
GUIDELINES AND WHAT IS REQUIRED
IN SCHOOLS.
>> WE NEED TO ENHANCE THE
PROTOCOL AROUND HANDWASHING AND
THAT PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT IS AVAILABLE FOR
TEACHERS AT THEIR WORKPLACES.
AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE
MEASURES PUT IN PLACE THAT IF
THERE'S A SUSPECTED OUTBREAK
THAT IT CAN BE DEALT WITH SOONER
RATHER THAN LATER.
>> Reporter: MINISTER OSBOURNE
WILL ANNOUNCE MORE DETAILS ON
THURSDAY THOUGH HE SAYS THAT
MOST INITIATIVES ARE FUNDED TO
$26 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
HEATHER GILLIS, CBC NEWS,
ST. JOHN'S.
>> Anthony: TEACHERS AND
PARENTS ARE WELCOMING SOME OF
THOSE CHANGES FROM THE EDUCATION
MINISTER.
BUT SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE.
THEY HELD A RALLY THIS
AFTERNOON.
"HERE & NOW'S" PETER COWAN IS
THERE LIVE.
SO, PETER, WHAT ARE TEACHERS
ASKING FOR?
>> Reporter: ANTHONY, WHAT
WE'RE HEARING FROM HERE IS A
GROUP CALLED "SAFE SEPTEMBER
N.L.."
IT'S INDEPENDENT, BUT THE RALLY
TODAY DID GET HELP FROM THE
NLTA.
IN FACT, YOU CAN SEE A BUNCH OF
THEIR SIGNS AROUND HERE AS
PARENTS AND TEACHERS ALL SHARED
THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
THEY'VE HEARD SO FAR FROM THE
GOVERNMENT'S PLAN.
AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING
HERE TODAY IS ANXIETY AROUND THE
FACT THAT MANY OF THE MEASURES
THAT EXIST ELSEWHERE IN
COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE
HAPPENING INSIDE SCHOOLS.
THINGS LIKE PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
WE HEARD FROM ONE OF THE
TEACHERS THAT ORGANIZED TODAY'S
EVENT THAT SHE SHOULD BE
FOCUSING ON GETTING READY TO
TEACH STUDENTS, BUT INSTEAD
SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT HOW SAFE THE
ENVIRONMENT WILL BE FOR THEM.
>> I'M REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
HERE TODAY.
I SHOULD BE PLANNING FOR MY
CLASSROOMS.
I SHOULD BE ENJOYING MY LAST DAY
BEFORE I GO BACK TO WORK
TOMORROW.
I WOULD PROBABLY BE HOME.
[Applause]
THERE ARE A MILLION OTHER THINGS
THAT I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE
DOING RIGHT NOW, AND I DIDN'T
THINK THAT I WOULD BE STANDING
UP IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF
PEOPLE.
BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT NORMAL
FOR SCHOOLS WAS WORKING BEFORE,
AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IT
SHOULD BE REINFORCED AGAIN NOW.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: SO WHAT WE'RE
ALSO HEARING FROM TODAY ARE FROM
PARENTS WHO ARE EXPRESSING
CONCERNS ABOUT SENDING THEIR
KIDS INTO A SCHOOL THAT WILL
HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF
CHILDREN.
AND THE ISSUE OF SMALLER CLASS
SIZES IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD
TODAY, ESPECIALLY FROM TEACHERS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
TEACHERS' UNION HAS BEEN PUSHING
AS AN ISSUE LONG BEFORE COVID.
THEY SAYS NOW IN AN ENVIRONMENT
WITH COVID-19 THAT THE ISSUE OF
DISTANCING IS EVEN MORE CRUCIAL
AND HAVING LOWER CLASS SIZES IS
A WAY TO DO THAT.
BUT INTERESTINGLY WE HEARD FROM
ONE PARENT WHO ALSO RUNS A
BUSINESS WHO SAID THAT SHE'S
STRUGGLING WITH THE
INCONSISTENCIES HERE, THAT AT
HER BUSINESS SHE HAS TO TAKE ALL
OF THESE EXTRA MEASURES, BUT
WHEN HER CHILD GOES TO CLASS
THOSE MEASURES WON'T BE THERE.
>> PHYSICAL DISTANCE IS REQUIRED
IN EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE SPACE IN THE PROVINCE OF
NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR EXCEPT
AT SCHOOL.
[Applause]
IT'S NON-NEGOTIABLABLE,
EVERYWHERE WE GO.
ANYTHING LESS THAN SMALLER CLASS
SIZES IN OUR SCHOOLS DURING A
GLOBAL PANDEMIC -- BE IT LOW
PREVALENCE OR NOT -- IS SIMPLY
IRRESPONSIBLE.
[Cheers and Applause]
IRRESPONSIBLE.
>> Reporter: NOW THE PLAN THAT
GOVERNMENT IS IMPLEMENTING DOES
HAVE THE SIGN OFF FROM THE CHIEF
MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH.
DR. JANICE FITZGERALD SAYS THAT
SHE BELIEVES THAT IT'S SAFE TO
HAVE CHILDREN IN CLASSROOMS AND
BY DOING THINGS LIKE COHORTING,
KEEPING ONE CLASS OF STUDENTS
TOGETHER, SHE BELIEVES THAT IT
WILL BE A SAFE SEPTEMBER.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROVINCE
ONLY HAS ONE ACTIVE CASE OF
COVID-19.
REPORTING LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S I'M
PETER COWAN FOR "HERE & NOW."
>> Anthony: WELL, CBC NEWS HAS
OBTAINED DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW
THAT THE EASTERN SCHOOL DISTRICT
STARTED ORDERING PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT FOR TEACHERS AND
STUDENTS MORE THAN A MONTH AGO,
BUT IS THAT GEAR ENOUGH GIVEN
THE NEW DIRECTIONS ON MASKS IN
THE CLASSROOM FOR JUNIOR HIGH
AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS?
"HERE & NOW'S" MARK QUINN HAS
MORE.
>> Reporter: THE DOCUMENT
SHOWED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
WAS ALREADY STOCKING UP ON
P.P.E. FOR SCHOOLS LIKE THIS
MONTHS AGO.
ON JULY 31st, IT ISSUED
TENDERS FOR MORE THAN 70,000
FACE MASKS, FACE SHIELDS AND
DESK SHIELDS FOR STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS.
THE DOCUMENT SENT TO CBC SHOW
THE DISTRICT IS EXPECTING ONE IN
10 STUDENTS TO GET SYMPTOMS FROM
THINGS LIKE COLDS AND FLUS
DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
ONE OF THE TENDERS SAYS "ASSUME
10% OF CHILDREN WILL NEED MASKS
FOR SICKNESS."
WHEN A SCHOOL DISTRICT PLANNED
FOR REOPENING CLASSROOMS WAS
ANNOUNCED TWO WEEKS AGO, THIS IS
WHAT IT SAID ABOUT MASKS.
"TWO WASHABLE AND REUSABLE
NON-MEDICAL MASKS WILL BE MADE
AVAILABLE TO STAFF AND ONE FOR
STUDENTS GRADES 2 TO 12 FOR USE
AT THEIR DISCRETION AND AS
REQUIRED PER RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER
OF HEALTH."
BUT NOW THAT HAS CHANGED.
>> THIS IS A GOVERNMENT POLICY.
WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND
WHAT THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER
OF HEALTH HAS PUT IN PLACE HERE.
MASKS WILL BE MANDATORY, AS WE
KNOW, IN THE COMMON AREAS AND IN
HALLWAYS.
EVEN IN THE CLASSROOM, SIGNAL A
STUDENT IS SEATED AT THEIR DESK.
ONCE AT THEIR DESK, IF THEY HAVE
A DISTANCE OF ONE METRE OR MORE
CANNOT BE MAINTAINED,
FACE-TO-FACE, THEN THE MASKS
WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND THAT WILL BE FOR GRADES
SEVEN THROUGH 12.
>> Reporter: SO WHERE WILL ALL
OF THE MASKS COME FROM?
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS THAT TO
DATE IT'S COMMITTED MORE THAN
$300,000 FOR DISPOSABLE AND
REUSABLE P.P.E. FOR STAFF AND
STUDENTS.
AN ONTARIO-BASED P.P.E.
MANUFACTURING COMPANY IS LENDING
A HAND.
CANADIAN SHIELD SAYS THAT IT'S
GOING TO DONATE MORE THAN 7,000
FACE SHIELDS TO SCHOOLS IN THIS
PROVINCE.
THAT WILL HELP, BUT THE
PROVINCE'S PLAN FOR MASKS HAS
EVOLVED AND THE EDUCATION
MINISTER SAYS THAT MORE DETAILS
ARE COMING ON THURSDAY.
MARK QUINN, CBC NEWS,
ST. JOHN'S.
>> Carolyn: WELL, THE NEWLY
ELECTED GRAND CHIEF OF THE INNU
NATION WANTS STRONGER RULES FOR
CAMPAIGNING TO PREVENT
CANDIDATES IN NATUASHISH AND
SHESHATSHIU FROM INFLUENCING
VOTERS WITH ALCOHOL, DRUGS OR
MONEY.
LAST MONTH THE DAY BEFORE THE
INNU NATION ELECTION,
26-YEAR-OLD RYAN NUKE WAS
KILLED.
HE WAS REPORTEDLY LEAVING A
CAMPAIGN PARTY THAT OFFERED FREE
ALCOHOL TO GUESTS.
NUKE WAS KILLED BY A VEHICLE
WHILE WALKING ALONG ROUTE 520
OUTSIDE OF HAPPY VALLEY-GOOSE
BAY.
NOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE
ACCUSED OF ETIENNE RICH'S
CAMPAIGN TEAM OF THROWING THAT
PARTY.
THE NEW GRAND CHIEF SAYS HE
WASN'T THERE AND THAT HE DIDN'T
KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT RICH SAYS
THAT ELECTION BRIBERY HAS BEEN A
PROBLEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND AT THE NEXT INNU NATION
BOARD MEETING HE'LL BE
DISCUSSING CAMPAIGN RULES THAT
WILL APPLY TO ALL THREE INNU
ORGANIZATIONS.
>>> THERE ARE NEW DETAILS IN THE
FATAL HELICOPTER CRASH EARLIER
THIS SUMMER AT THORBURN LAKE
NEAR CLARENVILLE.
THE PRIVATELY OWNED ROBINSON
R-44 HELICOPTER CRASHED WHILE
ATTEMPTING TO LAND FOR FUEL IN
JUNE.
THE PILOT AND THE PASSENGER IN
THE FRONT SUFFERED INJURIES.
THE PASSENGER IN THE REAR DIED.
NEW INFORMATION SHOWS THAT THE
PILOT HOVERED ABOUT 75 FEET
ABOVE THE GROUND PREPARING TO
LAND.
A REPORT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION
SAFETY BOARD SAYS THAT'S WHEN
THE CHOPPER BEGAN TO PITCH AND
THE PILOT LOST CONTROL.
THE T.S.B. SAYS THAT THE MAIN
ROTOR BLADES TOUCHED AND SEVERED
THE TAIL, INCLUDING THE TAIL
ROTOR.
THE HELICOPTER TAIL THEN FELL TO
THE GROUND.
>>> POLICE SAY THERE'S NO TRUTH
TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS OR
RUMOURS ABOUT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER
IN HOLYROOD OR CONCEPTION BAY
SOUTH THIS MORNING.
THE RCMP'S HOLYROOD DETACHMENT
SAYS THEY INVESTIGATED SEVERAL
CALLS AND DETERMINED THAT THERE
WAS NO SHOOTER.
POLICE SAY THAT THERE'S NO
THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND ARE
ASKING PEOPLE TO STOP SHARING
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS SAYING
OTHERWISE.
>> Anthony: THE PRIVACY BREACH
AT THE PROVINCE'S LABOUR BOARD
IS UNDER THE MICROSCOPE.
THIS AFTER THE AGENCY LEAKED THE
IDENTITIES OF TRADES WORKERS
TRYING TO FORM A UNION AT THE
MASSIVE GRIEG AQUACULTURE PLACE
IN THE AREA.
THEY WERE THEN LAID OFF.
HERE'S WHERE THE STORY GETS
TANGLIER.
IF THEY WANTED TO CHALLENGE
THEIR LAYOFFS THEY WOULD
TYPICALLY GO TO THE LABOUR
RELATIONS BOARD BUT THAT'S THE
VERY ENTITY THAT SHARED THEIR
PRIVATE INFORMATION WITH GRIEG
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE LABOUR RELATIONS BOARD MEETS
IN THIS BUILDING BUT IT IS NOT
TALKING ABOUT THIS PRIVACY
BREACH.
JEFF DEWYER IS JOINING US.
SO, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT
THIS BREACH?
>> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SIGN
UNION CARDS.
YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE
LABOUR RELATIONS BOARD IS IN
PLACE AND HAS A GOOD PURPOSE TO
GIVE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO
ASSEMBLE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW,
IT'S USUALLY THE LABOUR
RELATIONS BOARD THAT ACCEPTS THE
SIGNED CARDS, FINDS OUT IF THESE
ARE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES FROM THAT
COMPANY, AND THEY CAN RATIFY
THOSE CARDS BASED ON THAT
INFORMATION.
>> Anthony: SO YOU HAVE
SKILLED TRADESMEN WHO WANT TO
FORM A UNION, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE
THAT THESE CARDS WOULD END UP IN
GRIEG'S HANDS?
>> IN THIS CASE IT WAS, YOU
KNOW, IT WAS A MESS-UP, I GUESS,
OR A FLAW.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR
SURE.
WE DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS AN
ONGOING THING.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT,
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO HAVE THAT
RIGHT.
IN THIS SITUATION IT WAS THE
LABOUR RELATIONS BOARD THAT SENT
THESE CARDS BACK TO THE
EMPLOYER.
SO, THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN
AGAIN.
>> Anthony: WHAT IMPACT HAS
THIS HAD ON ANY OF THE WORKERS?
>> WHAT WE'RE CALLING FOR REALLY
IS AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION,
I THINK THAT ALL OF THAT WOULD
COME OUT IN THAT.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THERE WASN'T,
BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A TIMELINE
THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF
COINCIDENCES HERE.
>> Anthony: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE LAID
OFF AFTER THIS WAS RECEIVED,
WHETHER IT WAS A COINCIDENCE OR
THE FACT THAT THE LIST WAS ACTED
ON, THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO
KNOW THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION.
>> Anthony: BUT JUST TO BE
CLEAR, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT
MAYBE GRIEG SAID THERE'S THE
UNION TROUBLE MAKERS, LET'S GET
RID OF THEM?
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M
SUGGESTING.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THE
LIST WAS RELEASED TO THE
EMPLOYER.
WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT
WAS ACTED UPON.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO HAVE THE
RIGHT TO BE UNIONIZED.
AND IT GOES BACK TO THE PRIVACY
PART OF IT AS THE WHOLE POINT,
YOU KNOW, IT'S A BENEFIT TO
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
>> Anthony: THE N.L.
FEDERATION OF LABOUR SAYS THAT
REVEALING PRIVATE INFORMATION
ABOUT PEOPLE WITH THE LEGAL
RIGHT TO FORM A UNION IS A
FUNDAMENTAL VIOLATION OF ONE OF
THE PILLARS OF LABOUR LAW.
>> AND IT PUTS THE UNION IN A
POSITION WHERE THERE'S A TRUST
ISSUE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO
THEY'RE SIGNING UP THAT HAS BEEN
BREACHED.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY FLAWED NOW, THE
WHOLE LEGISLATION AND THE
PROCESS THAT'S BEEN A SACRED
PART OF OUR LEGISLATION FOR A
LONG TIME.
WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR THE
MINISTER TO DO IS INTERVENE
IMMEDIATELY AND PUT SOMETHING IN
PLACE IMMEDIATELY TO RECTIFY
THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN AND THAT
WORKERS AND UNIONS CAN EARN THE
TRUST AGAIN OF THE PROCESS.
>> Anthony: GOVERNMENT, LIKE
THE LABOUR BOARD, IS STAYING
SILENT ABOUT THIS PRIVACY
BREACH.
PREMIER ANDREW FUREY SHUFFLED
GERRY BYRNE OUT OF FISHERY AND
AQUACULTURE.
AMONG HIS NEW RESPONSIBILITIES
-- LABOUR.
>> IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOR
WOULD I MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE AMONG
THE LABOUR RELATIONS BOARD BEING
A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD.
ETHIOPIA I.
.>> Anthony: IN HIS FORMER JOB
HE SUPPORTED COMPANIES LIKE
GRIEG.
>> NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE
LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA TO
CLARIFY WHERE THEY SIT, AND TO
DO SO NOT JUST FROM A POLICY
POINT OF VIEW, BUT TO ACTUALLY
SAY AND SAY IT OUT LOUD,
MARITIME AQUACULTURE IN
NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR IS
SOUND AND WILL BE CONTINUED.
>> Anthony: NOW THE GOVERNMENT
KICKED IN $30 MILLION TO THE
GRIEG PLACENTIA BAY PROJECT,
BOASTING IT WOULD CREATE 800
JOBS AND SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE
WANT A UNION.
MYSTERIOUSLY THE COMPANY GOT
INSIDE INFORMATION ON WHO THOSE
WORKERS WERE.
GRIEG SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT
AGREE WITH HOW THEY HAVE
CHARACTERIZED THE SITUATION.
THE COMPANY SAYS THEY CAN'T
COMMENT FURTHER BECAUSE THE
MATTER IS BEFORE THE LABOUR
BOARD.
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>> Carolyn: WELL, THE COVID-19
PANDEMIC HAS CANCELLED ALL
CRUISES TO THE WEST COAST, WHICH
MEANS THAT THE 2020 CRUISE SHIP
SEASON IS CANCELLED IN CORNER
BROOK.
THE SUSPENDED SEASON IS HITTING
THE ECONOMY HARD.
"HERE & NOW'S" COLLEEN CONNORS
REPORTS.
>> Reporter: USUALLY LARGE
SHIPS ARE DOCKED ON RIVERSIDE
DRIVE THIS TIME OF YEAR.
TOURISTS ARE WALKING ALL OVER
THE CITY.
THIS YEAR?
NOTHING.
GOVERNMENT SUSPENDED ALL CRUISE
LINES IN MAY.
MORE THAN 20 SHIPS WERE EXPECTED
IN CORNER BROOK THIS SEASON AND
THAT LOSS CAN BE FELT BY MANY.
THE PORT CORPORATION ESTIMATES A
$10 MILLION LOSS TO THE ECONOMY
THIS YEAR.
>> WELL, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW
MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY
INVOLVED IN HELPING TO MAKE THE
PASSENGER EXPERIENCE A REALLY
GREAT ONE.
>> Reporter: TOUR GUIDES, BUS
OPERATORS, CABDRIVERS,
MUSICIANS -- THEY'RE ALL OUT OF
MONEY THIS CRUISE SEASON.
LOCAL CRAFT VENDORS LIKE GEOFF
SMITH MAKES INTRICATE PENS AND
BOTTLE OPENERS FROM DISCARDED
MOOSE ANTLERS.
HE SELLS THEM TO PASSENGERS
DOCKSIDE.
HE CAN MAKE A COUPLE THOUSAND
DOLLARS FROM EACH LARGE SHIP
THAT DOCKS.
>> IT PROBABLY TAKES ME FOUR OR
FIVE MONTHS TO GET READY FOR,
LIKE, REALLY A TWO-MONTH SEASON.
AND NOW THIS YEAR IS A ZERO
SEASON.
>> Reporter: SMITH IS JUST
SITTING ON A GARAGE FILLED WITH
PRODUCT.
PASSENGERS ALSO LIKE TO SHOP
WHILE THEY VISIT.
ESPECIALLY AT THE NEWFOUNDLAND
STORE AND MUSEUM.
THE OWNER IS NOW SELLING, PARTLY
BECAUSE BUSINESS IS SO SLOW.
>> IT'S NOT DESPERATE, BUT IT'S
NOT VERY GOOD.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU HAVE TO
HAVE A REAL GOOD SUMMER, A
COUPLE MONTHS, IN ORDER TO CARRY
YOU THROUGH THE OTHER PERIOD
WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY DEAD.
SMALL TOWN, GETTING SMALLER ALL
THE TIME.
>> Reporter: THE PORT
CORPORATION IS ABLE TO OFFSET
SOME OF THIS YEAR'S LOSS WITH A
NEW AGREEMENT WITH THE
INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING COMPANY.
BUT THE LOSS OF THE CRUISE
SEASON COULD BE FELT NEXT YEAR
IF COVID-19 IS STILL RAMPANT.
>> WE HAVE CRUISE LINES
SCHEDULED TO VISIT CORNER BROOK
NEXT YEAR JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN,
THEY BOOKED SO FAR IN ADVANCE.
AND WE'RE STILL KEEPING THOSE
LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN TO
ALL OF THE OTHER PORTS IN THE
REGION.
AND, I MEAN, SOME OF US ARE
EXPECTING ANOTHER SUSPENSION FOR
2021, BECAUSE IT IS A
POSSIBILITY.
WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> Reporter: THEY ARE JUST
WAITING FOR MORE DIRECTION FROM
TRANSPORT CANADA.
>> WELL, IF AND WHEN THE CRUISE
SHIPS DO RETURN TO CORNER BROOK
IN 2021, THE BIG QUESTION IS --
WILL THE LOCALS EMBRACE THOSE
INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLERS?
WELL, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KNOW
IF THERE STILL WILL BE FEAR
AROUND TRAVEL.
IT REALLY IS A WAIT-AND-SEE
GAME.
COLLEEN CONNORS, CBC NEWS,
CORNER BROOK.
>> Carolyn: WELL, LAST NIGHT
WE TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS FROM
THE NEW CANADIAN COMMUNITY ABOUT
A RECENT UPTICK AND OUTMIGRATION
AFTER A CLUSTER OF SYRIAN
REFUGEE FAMILIES DECIDED TO
LEAVE ST. JOHN'S.
BUT AS CEC HAIRE REPORTS, NOT
EVERYONE WHO ARRIVES ON OUR
SHORES SEEKS GREENER PASTURES
ELSEWHERE.
>> Reporter: FOUR MONTHS AGO
MOHAMMED TELAL ELSHADI OPENED A
STORE IN ST. JOHN'S.
HE SAID THAT IT WAS A ROUGH
START OPENING ON THE HEELS OF
SNOWMAGEDDON.
>> I DO EVERYTHING FOR FORWARD.
>> Reporter: EVERYTHING FROM
CRACKERS AND CHEESE AND CANNED
GOODS, SWEETS, KIDS TREATS,
CONDIMENTS, SOFT DRINKS.
A MECHANIC BY TRADE HE LEFT
SYRIA IN 2011, MOVED TO LEBANON,
AND THEN TURKEY.
HE AND HIS WIFE AND KIDS AND
MANY OTHER SYRIANS CAME TO
ST. JOHN'S UNDER THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S SYRIAN REFUGEE
RESETTLEMENT PROGRAMME.
YESTERDAY "HERE & NOW" TOLD YOU
ABOUT AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF
SYRIAN FAMILIES LEAVING
ST. JOHN'S THIS SUMMER HEADING
FOR THE MAINLAND TO FIND WORK.
HE SAYS THAT HE UNDERSTANDS WHY
SOME PEOPLE LEAVE, BE IT FOR
WORK OR FAMILY, BUT IT'S NOT IN
THE CARDS FOR HIM.
HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT CANADA,
AND LESS ABOUT NEWFOUNDLAND WHEN
HE ARRIVED, BUT SINCE LANDING
HERE ST. JOHN'S HAS BECOME HIS
HOME.
>> I LIKE THE CITY.
AND WE HAVE FRIENDS AND GO TO
SCHOOL.
AND IT'S GOOD FOR ME.
AND I HAVE GOOD NEIGHBOURS.
I DON'T SEE ANY PEOPLE BAD.
EVERY PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND
NICE PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: THE PROVINCE SAYS
THAT IT'S EXCEEDING THE
IMMIGRATION TARGETS AND IT IS
IMPROVING THE RETENTION OF NEW
IMMIGRANTS.
>> FOR ALL OF THE CLASSES OF
ECONOMIC IMMIGRATION, WE ARE
ACHIEVING OVER A 50% RATE OF
RETENTION OF HIGH-QUALITY
RESETTLEMENT, WHERE PEOPLE FEEL
COMFORTABLE ABOUT STAYING.
THAT'S ACTUALLY BETTER THAN MANY
ATLANTIC CANADIAN PROVINCES.
>> Reporter: BYRNES SAYS WHILE
THAT RATE IS ENCOURAGING, THERE
IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT,
ADDING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN MAKING
THAT HAPPEN.
CEC HAIRE, CBC NEWS, ST. JOHN'S.
(♪♪♪)
>> IT'S ALMOST LIKE HEAVEN, I
WAS INTENDED TO BE HERE, I DON'T
KNOW WHY.
BUT I'M INTENDED TO BE THERE IN
ST. PAT'S.
>> Carolyn: HE'S THERE THIS
EVENING MAKING SPORTS HISTORY.
THIS LEGEND OF LOCAL SPORTS WILL
UMPIRE HIS FINAL GAME.
COMING UP HE'LL TALK ABOUT FIVE
DECADES STEEPED IN SPORTS.
>> Ashley: IT'S A CHILLY NIGHT
TONIGHT, BUT THE REST OF THE
WEEK IS LOOKING MUCH WARMER WITH
HUMIDITY MOVING IN.
THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING
TO SEE RAIN FOR PARTS OF THE
PROVINCE.
I'LL HAVE ALL OF THOSE DETAILS
AND YOUR FULL FORECAST COMING
UP.
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>> Anthony: WELL, THE LAST
TIME THAT I SPOKE WITH ASHLEY
BRAUWEILER, IT WAS SNOWING, IT
WAS MARCH, AND WE REALLY DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT SELF-ISOLATION WAS.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, ASHLEY.
>> Ashley: NICE TO SEE YOU
TOO.
YES, VERY DIFFERENT THAN LAST
TIME I GOT TO SPEAK TO YOU FOR
SURE.
A BEAUTIFUL EVENING TODAY.
MUCH DIFFERENT -- AT LEAST LESS
WINDY THAN WHAT WE WERE SEEING
YESTERDAY.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE
TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE BOARD.
A LITTLE BIT CHILLY AS WELL.
A LITTLE BIT OF A NIP IN THE
AIR, ONCE THAT SUN GOES AWAY.
THE TEMPERATURES TODAY SITTING
AROUND 16º FOR ST. JOHN'S AND
THEN WE'VE GOT TEMPERATURES
PRETTY MUCH TO THE SAME POINT
AROUND 18º FOR BADGER AND 17º
FOR STEPHENVILLE.
AND THEN THE TEMPERATURES MUCH
WARMER FOR HAPPY VALLEY-GOOSE
BAY.
SITTING AROUND 19º THIS
AFTERNOON.
SO, A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
WE CAN THANK A RIDGE OF HIGH
PRESSURE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S DOMINATING THE
WEATHER.
AND AS WE HEAD THROUGH THE NEXT
COUPLE OF HOURS, THINGS WILL
REALLY START TO CLEAR OUT ACROSS
THE BOARD AND BECAUSE OF THAT
THERE IS A FROST ADVISORY IN
PLACE FROM BURGEO TO GREEN
BAY-WHITE BAY AND ALL THE WAY
OVER TO CLARENVILLE THIS
EVENING, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE
LOW-LYING AREAS WHERE WE'LL SEE
THOSE SINGLE DIGIT LOWS TONIGHT
UNDER CLEAR SKIES AND CALM
WINDS.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STORY
ACROSS THE BOARD.
ALTHOUGH WE WILL START TO SEE
SOME CLOUD COVER MOVE IN WITH
SOME SHOWERS FOR AREAS IN LAB
WEST THROUGH THE NIGHT AND
CONTINUING THROUGH THE FIRST
HALF OF TOMORROW MORNING.
BUT THERE'S THOSE TEMPERATURES.
SO SINGLE DIGIT LOWS, 10º IN
ST. JOHN'S.
THE WINDS GENERALLY LIGHT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE
TEMPERATURES AROUND 9º, 10º, 11º
UP THROUGH THE BIGLAND.
11º WILL BE THE OVERNIGHT LOW IN
NAIN.
NOW TOMORROW THAT HIGH PRESSURE
WILL DOMINATE AGAIN, CERTAINLY
FOR THE ISLAND AND THE
SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF
LABRADOR, BUT THAT RAIN WILL
SPREAD ACROSS THE BIGLAND,
PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE DAY WITH
SOME PERIODS OF RAIN WHICH MAY
BE HEAVY AT TIMES.
MORE SO AS YOU HEAD THROUGH THE
OVERNIGHT.
THERE'S SOME HEAVIER RAIN THERE
MOVING IN OVERNIGHT INTO
THURSDAY MORNING.
SO TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE
GORGEOUS TEMPERATURE-WISE.
20º DAYS.
HIGH TEENS, LOW 20s FOR MOST
OF US, WITH WINDS GENERALLY
20-30 km/h.
20º FOR CARTWRIGHT.
22º FOR HAPPY VALLEY-GOOSE BAY.
BUT, AGAIN, THAT RAIN WILL MOVE
IN.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY LATE DAY
WE'LL SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME
SHOWERS TO MOVE IN ON THE
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LABRADOR --
OR SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE
ISLAND, RATHER.
SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE'LL SEE
HUMIDITY RETURN.
THIS IS SHOWING US HOW MUCH
MOISTURE IS IN THE AIR.
SO THE YELLOWS AND THE OWNERS
ARE THE HUMID AIR AND THE BLUES
AND THE PURPLES ARE THE DRY AIR.
SO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS AS WE HEAD
INTO THURSDAY.
SOME OF THAT HUMID AIR MAKES A
RETURN AND IT WILL STICK AROUND
PRETTY MUCH THROUGH FRIDAY.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY CLEAR AS WE
HEAD INTO SATURDAY NIGHT, INTO
EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.
AND WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE
THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME SHOWERS,
WHICH WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES,
CERTAINLY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT,
EARLY FRIDAY, WE COULD SEE THE
POTENTIAL FOR SOME HEAVY SHOWERS
FOR SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF
LABRADOR THAT EVEN BE SOME
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY AS WELL.
BUT EVENTUALLY WE WILL SEE SOME
CLEARING WITH THAT.
SO THESE ARE YOUR TEMPERATURES.
20º, 22º.
BUT, AGAIN, WITH THAT HUMIDITY
MAKING IT FEEL A LITTLE BIT
WARMER.
THAT RAIN WILL MOVE IN LATE DAY
ON THURSDAY FOR EASTERN AREAS.
BUT OVERALL IT'S A GENERALLY
GREY DAY FOR THE ISLAND.
AND SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF
LABRADOR.
20º FOR CARTWRIGHT, AND 18º FOR
NAIN.
ANOTHER GORGEOUS DAY.
THE TEMPERATURE DOES DIP A
LITTLE BIT FOR YOU ON FRIDAY
BUT, AGAIN, EVEN WARMER FOR THE
ISLAND -- 22º TO 25º IT LOOKS
LIKE THROUGH THE DAY ON FRIDAY.
AND AS WE HEAD INTO THE WEEKEND,
THAT RAIN WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE
ITS WAY TOWARDS EASTERN AREAS OF
THE ISLAND AND ST. JOHN'S AND
24º AT THIS POINT.
BUT ONCE THAT CLEARS, SUNDAY,
EVEN MONDAY, LOOKING PRETTY
BEAUTIFUL FOR THE LONG WEEKEND.
THE LAST OFFICIAL -- I LIKE TO
SAY LONG WEEKEND OF THE SUMMER.
HERE'S WHAT CENTRAL AND WESTERN
NEWFOUNDLAND ARE LOOKING LIKE.
YOUR RAIN WILL END THROUGH THE
DAY ON SATURDAY.
SUNDAY CLEARING OUT BEAUTIFULLY.
BUT, AGAIN, THOSE TEMPERATURES
SHAPING UP TO BE A PRETTY
SPECTACULAR WEEKEND IN THOSE 20º
RANGES.
AND THEN FOR EASTERN LABRADOR,
18º BY SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY A
LITTLE BIT MORE CLOUD COVER AND
15º, BUT LAB WEST, YOU'RE GOING
TO HANG ON TO THE CHILLIER
TEMPERATURES.
SATURDAY, 9º.
AND 11º ON SUNDAY, WITH SOME
PEEKS OF SUN.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE THIS
BEAUTIFUL PHOTO FROM TROUT
RIVER.
A COLOURFUL SUNSET.
CHRISTOPHER SENT US THAT GREAT
SHOT.
IF YOU HAVE WEATHER PHOTOS TO
SHARE WITH US SEND THEM TO
NLPHOTOS@CBC.CA.
>> Carolyn: THANKS, ASHLEY.
>>> WELL, LOCAL SPORTS HISTORY
IS MADE RIGHT NOW AT ST. PAT'S
FIELD IN ST. JOHN'S.
TONIGHT IS THE LAST TIME THAT
CARL LAKE WILL UMPIRE A GAME.
FOR A MAN WHO HAS DEVOTED MOST
OF HIS LIFE TO LOCAL SPORTS,
THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT.
I SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT IT THIS
AFTERNOON.
>> ST. PAT'S BALLPARK IS MY
SUMMER HOME BASICALLY SINCE
1958.
I CAME DOWN HERE WITH THE KIDS
ABOUT THAT HEIGHT, CAME TO WATCH
A BASEBALL GAME.
AND I HAVEN'T LEFT SINCE.
AND I WOULD COME -- EVEN COME
DOWN TO THE BALLPARK AND WE
WOULD COME TO PLAY BALL IN THE
MORNING AND COME DOWN AND WATCH
BASEBALL IN THE NIGHTTIME.
THIS IS MY HOME.
THIS IS MY MOST RELAXED PLACE
WHEN I'M UMPIRING OR JUST
WATCHING A GAME, THIS IS MY
HOME.
>> Carolyn: WHAT IS IT ABOUT
THIS PLACE THAT DOES IT TO YOU?
>> IT'S THE MYSTIQUE OF BEING
HERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
HAVE MET OVER THE YEARS.
YOU CAN HEAR THE GROAFTS THAT TT
HAVE PLAYED HERE.
AND I COULDN'T HAVE MADE FRIENDS
HERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE BUT
ST. PAT'S.
53 YEARS UMPIRING BASEBALL.
AND SO HOTDOGS AND THE CANTEEN
THERE AND GO AROUND AND SELL
CHIP IN THE STANDS, RIGHT?
BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE HEAVEN.
I WAS INTENDED TO BE HERE, I
DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I'M INTENDED
TO BE HERE AT ST. PAT'S.
>> Carolyn: TODAY IS A SPECIAL
DAY FOR YOU.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING LATER?
>> I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL WITH
MY HEALTH REASONS.
I CAN'T UMPIRE BASEBALL, BECAUSE
IF I GET HIT BY A BALL I COULD
BE IN SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
BUT I KNOW THAT IT WILL BE MY
LAST GAME AS A BASEBALL UMPIRE
AND I'LL DO FIRST BASE TONIGHT.
I WANT TO DO MORE TO GET MY
53rd YEAR IN UMPIRING
BASEBALL.
IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND MY
FAMILY AND MY UMPIRE FRIENDS.
>> Carolyn: YOU HAVE DEVOTED A
LOT OF TIME TO SPORTS IN THIS
PROVINCE?
>> A FAIR BIT.
I THINK THAT I HAVE COVERED
EVERYTHING FROM PEEWEE HOCKEY TO
THE NATIONALS AND THE SAME WITH
HOCKEY, FROM PEEWEE TO THE
NATIONALS.
THAT'S MY LIFE, THAT'S WHAT WE
GREW UP WITH AS KIDS, WE GREW UP
IN SPORTS.
IT FELL INTO JOBS, AT FIRST WITH
THE DAILY NEWS AND THEN CJON AND
THEN CBC AND THEN VCON AND I
CAME BACK IN THE MEDIA AND I GOT
MY OWN SPORTS PAGE.
THAT IS THE LOVE OF SPORTS,
TRYING TO PROMOTE THE LOCAL
PEOPLE.
YOU CAN GET NATIONAL BUT LOCAL
ALL OF A SUDDEN IS SOMETHING TO
LOOK AT.
>> Carolyn: WE'RE IN AN
UNPRECEDENTED TIME IN SPORTS
LOCALLY WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN
PUT ON HOLD.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NEW
CHALLENGES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN
FACED BEFORE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE STATE OF LOCAL SPORTS
RIGHT NOW IN THESE COVID TIMES?
>> IN THE COVID TIMES, IT'S SAD.
BECAUSE I CAN TELL THAT YOU
WE'LL UMPIRE TONIGHT AND ONE GUY
BEHIND THE PITCHER'S MOUND I'LL
BE HERE BEHIND HOME PLATE.
THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO
PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND GOD LOVE
THEM, THEY'RE DOING THAT.
KIDS ARE ENJOYING THE GAME BUT
THEY'RE KEEPING A DISTANCE,
WHICH IS GREAT, BUT STILL
ENJOYING THEIR FRIENDS AROUND
BASEBALL AND SOCCER.
SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE, BUT AT
CAROLYN, THEY'RE PLAYING SPORTS
WITH SOMEONE.
REGARDLESS OF COVID, THEY SAID
WE'LL COME AND PLAY SPORTS.
IT'S GREAT.
>> Carolyn: IT SEEMS THAT
SPORTS IS IN YOUR D.N.A., EVEN
JUST THE WAY THAT YOU ARE
TALKING AND THE WAY THAT YOU
PRESENT YOURSELF, IT'S VERY MUCH
A SPORT -- YOU'RE A SPORTS MAN.
>> I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBOURHOOD,
WHEN WE WERE HOME FROM SCHOOL WE
PLAYED STREET HOCKEY AND CAME
HERE IN THE SUMMERTIME AND WE
PLAYED SOCCER OVER THERE.
THAT'S ALL WE DID IN THE SUMMER
AND THE WINTER, WE PLAYED SPORTS
AND WE HAD BUILT UP YOUR
RELATIONSHIP.
AND THE PARENTS SAID TO GET OUT
OF THE HOUSE ANYWAY AND WE GOT
OUT OF THE HOUSE.
AND YOU PLAYED WITH PEOPLE THAT
YOU HAVE MET OVER THE YEARS.
I COULD FILL THIS FIELD WITH
PEOPLE THAT I HAVE MET IN
SPORTS, JUST IN NEWFOUNDLAND
ALONE, NOT COUNTING THE MAINLAND
PEOPLE.
>> Carolyn: TONIGHT IS GOING
TO BE AN EMOTIONAL TIME FOR YOU.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'LL BE
FEELING TONIGHT?
>> I SAID AT THE START THAT I'LL
BE ANXIOUS TO GET OUT AND --
EXCUSE ME IF I BREAK DOWN -- BUT
I THINK THAT AT THE END OF IT
I'LL SAY THAT I'M SORRY TO LEAVE
HERE.
I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO.
IT BUT, YOU KNOW SOMETHING,
CAROLYN, I HAD A GREAT RUN WITH
BASEBALL AS AN UMPIRE.
I WOULD COME TO THE BALLPARK BUT
IF THINGS CHANGE AROUND, I WILL,
BUT I CAN'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW.
>> Carolyn: WELL, GOOD LUCK
THIS EVENING.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME
TO SHARE SOME MEMORIES.
>> ANYTIME, MY DEAR, YOU WANT A
MEMORY, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE.
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(♪♪♪)
(♪♪♪)
>> Anthony: THIS IS DAY BEFORE
TEACHERS GO BACK TO WORK AND
TODAY SOME ATTENDED A RALLY TO
PROTEST SOME OF THE
BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLANS AND WE'LL
HAVE MORE OF THAT FOR YOU LATER
IN THE PROGRAMME.
IF YOU WERE WATCHING EARLIER,
PETER COWAN JOINED US LIVE AND
WE'LL HAVE MORE FROM THAT RALLY
COMING UP IN JUST A BIT.
OBVIOUSLY, HEADING BACK TO
SCHOOL IS THE MAJOR TOPIC ON
MOST PEOPLE'S MINDS.
AND WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU A
BIT LATER ON "HERE & NOW."
>>> TO A NATIONAL STORY NOW, THE
DARK PAST OF CANADA'S
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL SYSTEM IS
BEING FORMALLY DESIGNATED AS AN
EVENT OF NATIONAL HISTORIC
SIGNIFICANCE.
TWO FORMER RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS
WILL BECOME HISTORIC SITES.
PORTAGE la PRAIRIE IN
MANITOBA, AND SCHUBANACADIE
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL IN NOVA
SCOTIA.
NOW SCHUBANACADIE OPERATED FOR
37 YEARS AND IT WAS RUN BY THE
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF THAT
SCHOOL.
A PLASTICS FACTORY NOW STANDS IN
ITS PLACE.
AND EARLIER TODAY, WE SPOKE TO
ONE OF THE SCHOOL SURVIVORS.
>> Reporter: HE WAS OUT WITH
HIS GODSON WHEN HE DECIDED TO
SHOW HIM THE OLD SCHUBANACADIE
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL.
>> I SAID THIS IS WHERE THE
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL WAS, AND YOU
COULD SENSE WITH WHAT IT LOOKS
LIKE NOW AND THE SITE THAT I
REMEMBER, TWO COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT THINGS.
>> Reporter: THE TRUTH WAS
THAT KNOCKWOOD SURVIVED THREE
YEARS AT THE SCHOOL, STARTING
WHEN HE WAS 9.
STAFF BEAT HIM WHEN HE SPOKE
MI'KMAQ AND SHAMED HIM FOR BEING
MI'KMAQ.
TWO MANY PAINFUL MEMORIES TO
SHARE.
>> PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO USE THE
WORD HOLOCAUST, ALL RIGHT?
AND GENOCIDE.
THEY'RE AFRAID OF THOSE WORDS
BECAUSE THEY SPEAK THE TRUTH,
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
INDIANS PEOPLE OF CANADA.
>> Reporter: THE SCHOOL IS
LONG GONE, REPLACED BY A
PLASTICS FACTORY.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITE THAT
IS COMPLETELY ERASED.
WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO HAS
WORKED, THEY ERASED HISTORY.
>> Reporter: TODAY JONATHAN
WILKINSON, THE MINISTER FOR
PARKS CANADA, SAID THAT THE SITE
FOR THE SCHOOL AND THE ONE IN
MANITOBA WILL BECOME NATIONAL
HISTORIC SITES.
>> TO ALL OF THOSE WHO HAD
MISTREATMENT AND NEGLECT IN
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS, WE ARE
SORRY.
WHILE THESE DESIGNATIONS 8 NOT
UNDUE THE HARM THAT WAS DONE, IT
IS PLAY HOPE THAT WE CAN LEARN
FROM THE PAST AND CONTINUE TO
ADVANCE OUR JOURNEY OF
TRUTH-TELLING, RECONCILIATION,
AND HEALING.
>> Reporter: KNOCKWOOD SAYS
THAT THE SCHOOL IS NOT REALLY A
CHAPTER OF THE 14,000-YEAR
MI'KMAQ HISTORY IN THIS LAND.
>> WHAT IT IS IS A VERY STRONG
AFFIRMATION OF COLONIAL HISTORY.
IT'S THEIR WILL OVER OURS.
AND IT POINTS OUT THE
HELPLESSNESS THAT WE EXPERIENCED
BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
>> Reporter: KNOCKWOOD HOLDS
NO GRUDGE AGAINST THE PLASTICS
FACTORY BUT HE HOPES THAT IT CAN
BE MOVED OFF THE NEW NATIONAL
HISTORIC SITE.
HE'D LIKE TO SEE THE LAND LEFT
OPEN SO THAT THE WOUND CAN HEAL.
KNOCKWOOD SEES HOPE FOR THE
FUTURE IN THE STUDENTS AT THE
NEARBY SCHOOL.
>> YOU HAVE A CHILD WALKING UP
TO AN ELDER AND THEY'RE ASKING
HOW ARE YOU.
AND ALL I CAN ANSWER BACK IS A
HALF ENGLISH WORD [Speaking
Foreign Language].
, UNWELL.
>> Reporter: HE THINKS THAT
HE'S LEARNING FROM THE YOUNG
MI'KMAQ, AND HE THINKS THAT
EVERYONE SHOULD.
>> TO HAVE GREATER OPENNESS AND
PEACE.
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(♪♪♪)
>> Anthony: WE MENTIONED
BEFORE THAT PIECE ABOUT
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS, THIS IS THE
DAY BEFORE THE TEACHERS GO BACK
TO WORK, AND SOME PROTESTED SOME
OF THE GOVERNMENT'S
BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLANS.
"HERE & NOW'S" PETER COWAN WAS
AT THAT RALLY.
AND PETER IS JOINING US LIVE
ONCE AGAIN.
SO THERE'S SOME CONCERN, PETER,
ON THE PART OF SOME TEACHERS AND
PARENTS WHO SAY THEY JUST DON'T
FEEL THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THE
BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLAN?
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
>> Reporter: ANTHONY, YEAH,
THERE WERE ABOUT A HUNDRED
PEOPLE OR SO THAT I COUNTED HERE
AT THE RALLY.
IT WRAPPED UP ABOUT HALF AN HOUR
AGO, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE
TWO HOURS WE HEARD FROM MORE
THAN A DOZEN TEACHERS AND
PARENTS EXPRESSING THEIR
CONCERNS ABOUT THE
BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLAN.
THE TWO BIG REQUESTS THEY HAD
FROM ORGANIZERS HERE WAS, ONE,
THEY WANT SMALLER CLASS SIZES TO
ALLOW FOR PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
AND, TWO, THEY WANT ONLINE
LEARNING OPTIONS FOR PARENTS WHO
MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE OR FOR
CHILDREN WHO ARE SICK AND HAVE
TO BE OUT OF CLASS.
HERE'S A BIT OF WHAT WAS SAID AT
THE RALLY TODAY.
>> BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST
YEARS OF MY TEACHING CAREER
TRYING TO KEEP CLASSROOM
MANAGEMENT FOR 26 CHILDREN.
AND COMING UP FOR NEXT YEAR I'M
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT'S
GOING TO LOOK WHEN SOME OF THE
SAFETY PRECAUTIONS THEY'RE
TELLING US TO DO SUCH AS GO
OUTSIDE -- THAT WAS A STRUGGLE
FOR ME LAST YEAR WAS TO BRING MY
CHILDREN OUTSIDE ON MY OWN.
WE HAD -- AND, AGAIN, THAT WILL
BE A STRUGGLE FOR THE TEACHERS
NOW AS THEY PUSH FOR GOING
OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF VENTILATION
ISSUES.
>> WE ARE WAY BEHIND THE CLOCK
IN MAKING THE PREPARATIONS FOR A
RETURN TO SCHOOL IN A SAFE
SEPTEMBER.
[Applause]
WE JUST HAD A CHANGE IN THE
INSTRUCTIONS AROUND MASK
WEARING.
WHY WASN'T THIS IN PLACE AT THE
END OF JULY?
[Applause]
WHY WASN'T THIS IN PLACE IN THE
END OF JUNE OR MAY?
ALL OF THE ARRANGEMENTS ABOUT
SAFE RETURN TO SCHOOL AND AN AD
HOC DONE IN HASTE AFTERTHOUGHT
FLAVOUR TO THEM.
[Applause]
WE HAVE A PREMIER WHO LIKES TO
BOAST -- A NEW PREMIER, WHO
LIKES TO BOAST THAT HE FOLLOWS
BEST EVIDENCE.
WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM HIM
TOMORROW AFTERNOON WHEN HE DOES
THE PUBLIC BRIEFING ABOUT THE
PANDEMIC AS TO HOW HE THINKS THE
BEST EVIDENCE HAS BEEN APPLIED
TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE IN OUR
SCHOOLS.
>> MY CHILDREN THRIVE WITH THE
TEACHERS AND STAFF IN OUR
SCHOOL, HOWEVER, I'M SCARED
ALLOWING MY CHILDREN TO RETURN
TO SCHOOL WITHOUT ADEQUATE
SAFETY MEASURES WILL RESULT IN
THEM BECOMING A STATISTIC TO
COVID-19.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL BE --
A STATISTIC.
THE GOVERNMENT OF NEWFOUNDLAND
AND LABRADOR CLEARLY STATES ON
THEIR WEBSITE, AND I QUOTE, "THE
POTENTIAL RISK OF COVID-19
SPREAD IS HIGHEST WHEN
INDIVIDUALS ARE INDOORS, WITHIN
TWO METRES OF EACH OTHER, FOR
MORE THAN 15 MINUTES IN A SMALL
SPACE WITH LIMITED VENTILATION."
IT'S RIGHT ON THE WEBSITE, GO
AHEAD AND READ IT.
[Applause]
BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
NOW BEING TOLD TO DO WITH OUR
CHILDREN.
SEND THEM INTO OVERCROWDED
CLASSROOMS WITH NO GUARANTEE OF
PHYSICAL DISTANCE, INDOORS FOR
LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES, WITH
LITTLE TO NO VENTILATION.
ANYTHING LESS THAN SMALLER CLASS
SIZES IN OUR SCHOOLS DURING A
GLOBAL PANDEMIC, BE IT LOW
PREVALENCE OR NOT, IS SIMPLY
IRRESPONSIBLE.
[Cheers and Applause]
URRESPONSIBLE.
>> Reporter: SOME OF THE
VOICES THAT YOU HEARD THERE AT
THE RALLY, YOU HEARD FROM THE
P.C. LEADER THERE AS WELL HERE
AT THE RALLY WE DID HEAR FROM
OTHER PARTIES LIKE THE N.D.P.
AND I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THE
EDUCATION MINISTER TOM OSBORNE
WAS OUT HERE FOR THE FULL TWO
HOURS OF THE RALLY AND SPENT
MOST OF THE TIME STANDING ASIDE
AND LISTENING AND SPOKE A LITTLE
AT THE END.
HE DID GET CREDIT FROM
ORGANIZERS FOR COMING OUT AND
LISTENING TO CONCERNS
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(♪♪♪)
>> Carolyn: AN UPDATE NOW ON
THE CONCERNS SURROUNDING
GOVERNOR-GENERAL JULIE PAYETTE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS HIRED
A PRIVATE CONSULTING FIRM TO
HELP TO LOOK INTO THE
ACCUSATIONS THAT PAYETTE AND HER
SECOND-IN-COMMAND HAVE VERBALLY
ABUSED STAFF AT RIDEAU HALL.
CBC'S EVAN DYER HAS DETAILS.
>> Reporter: IT WAS BACK ON
JULY 23rd THAT THE GOVERNMENT
INITIALLY ANNOUNCED THAT THERE
WOULD BE SOME KIND OF AN
INVESTIGATION INTO THE CLAIMS OF
HARASSMENT AND BULLYING AT
RIDEAU HALL BY THE
GOVERNOR-GENERAL, BY HER
SECRETARY ASSUNTA DI LORENZO.
NOW A FIRM IN OTTAWA HAS BEEN
NAMED TO CARRY OUT THAT
INVESTIGATION, THAT
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
THIS IS A FIRM THAT HAS DONE A
LOT OF WORK FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN ISSUES OF
HARASSMENT AND RESPECT IN THE
WORKPLACE, TYPICALLY GETTING AT
LEAST A FEW CONTRACTS EVERY
YEAR.
IT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME
FAIRLY HIGH PROFILE CASES,
INCLUDING THE CASE OF SENATOR
DON MEREDITH WHO WAS ULTIMATELY
FORCED TO RESIGN FROM THE
CANADIAN SENATE AFTER ADMITTING
TO HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A
TEENAGED GIRL.
SO THE CONSULTING FIRM HAS A
MANDATE TO SPEAK TO CURRENT AND
FORMER STAFFERS AT RIDEAU HALL.
SOME OF THEM HAVE ALLEGED THAT
THERE'S BEEN A VERY TOXIC
CLIMATE IN THAT WORKPLACE SINCE
JULIE PAYETTE BECAME
GOVERNOR-GENERAL.
A LOT OF BULLYING, A LOT OF
YELLING IN MEETINGS AND
BELITTLING OF PEOPLE AND
BELITTLING OF THEIR WORK.
ONE FORMER STAFFER REFERRED TO
EVERY MEETING HAVING THEIR
VICTIMS.
SO NOW THEY'LL INTERVIEW
EVERYBODY INVOLVED, INCLUDING
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLEGED TO
HAVE BEEN THE BULLIES IN THIS
MATTER, JULIE PAYETTE AND HER
SECRETARY.
AND THEY'LL DELIVER A REPORT
LATER THIS FALL TO DOMINIC
LeBLANC, THE CHAIR OF THE
PRIVY COUNCIL WHO, OF COURSE,
HIMSELF IS THE SON OF A FORMER
GOVERNOR-GENERAL.
EVAN DYER, CBC NEWS, CHELSEA,
QUÉBEC.
(♪♪♪)
>> Carolyn: IN AN ONGOING
SERIES WE'RE CALLING "DRAWN TO
IT," CBC N.L. IS INTRODUCING YOU
TO LOCAL CREATORS.
AND PULLING BACK THE CURTAIN ON
THEIR ARTISTIC PROCESS.
NOW YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THE WORK
OF MORGAN MacDONALD.
WE HAVE FEATURED HIM ON "HERE &
NOW" SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE
YEARS.
BUT YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO
HEAR THAT THE SCULPTOR DOESN'T
CONSIDER HIMSELF A SUCCESS.
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>> MY NAME IS MORGAN
MacDONALD, I'M A SCULPTOR, AND
I OWN AND OPERATE THE
NEWFOUNDLAND BRONZE FOUNDRY.
THIS IS A LOST WAX BRONZE
FOUNDRY.
I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT I GUESS
ART FORMS HERE.
THERE'S THE SCULPTURE PART OF
IT, WHICH IS THE ARTIST'S ROLE,
YOU KNOW, WHO I AM AS A
SCULPTOR, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU
CREATE THESE SCULPTURES.
BUT THE FOUNDRY ASPECT OF IT IS
THE CASTING, THE MOLD MAKING,
THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A TRADE.
YOU'RE CREATING A CLAY STATUE,
YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST STEP -- YOU
SCULPT THAT.
THAT'S THE ARTWORK.
AND THEN WITH THE CLAY YOU HAVE
TO CREATE A SERIES OF MOLDS TO
GET TO THE BRONZE END PRODUCT.
SO THE BRONZE IS THE PART THAT'S
PERMANENT, THAT IS FOREVER.
CLAY DOESN'T LAST TWO SECONDS
OUTDOORS.
IT WILL MELT AWAY IN A
HEARTBEAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO
DO IS TO PRESERVE YOUR ARTWORK
FOR THE AGES.
ANY ARTIST IN ANY CHOSEN CAREER
PATH -- IT'S INCREDIBLY
DIFFICULT.
YOU CAN LISTEN TO A LOT OF
THESE, YOU KNOW, SELF-MOTIVATION
STORIES.
AND THEY START TO RING KIND OF
HELLO AFTER A WHILE WHEN YOU'RE
NOT GETTING TO A POINT OF, YOU
KNOW, SUCCESS OR ACTUALIZATION.
IT SOUNDS SO CORNY, SO, YOU
KNOW, SO KONY ROBINS-ISH, BUT IF
YOU PUT THE EFFORT IN YOU'RE
BOUND TO HOOK SOMETHING.
BUT THERE'S A BIT OF MENTAL
TOUGHNESS IN IT AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE
FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AT
MY -- I GUESS WHATEVER YOU WANT
TO CALL IT -- SUCCESS.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T EVEN THINK OF MYSELF AS
SUCCESSFUL.
YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO PUSH THE
BOUNDARIES.
YOU DON'T GET TO A POINT THAT
YOU SAID, YES, I MADE IT, AND
YOU GET ON THIS ROAD THAT IS
SMOOTH AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW,
ALL OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU MAKE YOUR OWN OPPORTUNITY.
SOME OF THE ADVICE THAT I TELL
ANY OTHER ARTIST SEARCHING FOR
THE "THING" IS TRY TO BE THE
MOST AUTHENTIC YOU THAT YOU CAN
BE, BECAUSE TRYING TO COPY
SOMEONE ELSE, YOU ARE NEVER
GOING TO REACH THAT LEVEL OF
INTERESTING SUBLIME EXCELLENCE,
OR HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO DEFINE
THAT, BY TRYING TO BE BEST OF
WHATEVER SOMEBODY ELSE IS.
NOBODY CAN COPY WHO YOU ARE.
I MEAN, YOU ARE INATELY YOU.
IT JUST HAPPENS BY VIRTUE OF
EXISTING.
SO TRY TO DEVELOP THAT AND GO TO
THE DEPTHS OF YOUR PERSPECTIVE,
YOUR VOICE, AND YOUR EXPERIENCE.
AND IF YOU CULTIVATE THAT, I
THINK THAT'S WHERE THE
INTERESTING SUBJECT MATTER WILL
COME FROM.
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>> Anthony: WELL, WE HEARD A
CHILLY NIGHT, BUT THINGS AREN'T
THAT BAD.
ASHLEY?
>> Ashley: NO, THEY'RE
CERTAINLY NOT.
AFTER TONIGHT, THINGS WILL BE
FAIRLY WARM THROUGH THE DAY
TOMORROW.
THE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE IS
STILL IN PLACE FOR THE ISLAND
AND SOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF
LABRADOR.
HOWEVER, THE REST OF LABRADOR,
YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME RAIN
WHICH COULD BE HEAVY AT TIMES
THROUGH THE DAY.
PRETTY MUCH CONTINUING AS WE
HEAD THROUGH THURSDAY.
THAT'S WHEN WE'LL START TO SEE
THAT RAIN HEAD TOWARDS THE
ISLAND.
>> Carolyn: ALL RIGHT, GOING
TO DEFINITELY CLOSE THE DOOR TO
MY GREENHOUSE TONIGHT.
>> Anthony: GOOD IDEA.
CAROLYN, I WAS CHECKING OUT MY
TWITTER ACCOUNT DURING THE BREAK
AND A LOT OF TEACHERS HAVE TAKEN
TO SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE TOMORROW
IS THE FIRST DAY BACK FOR
TEACHERS.
OF COURSE, THE STUDENTS,
DEPENDING WHAT GRADE, WILL BE
HEADING BACK NEXT WEEK.
AND THERE'S SO MANY STORIES THAT
WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED
ABOUT ARE LOCKERS.
THERE'S NO LOCKERS.
SO COME THE BAD WEATHER, AND
ASHLEY IS TALKING ABOUT HOW NICE
IT IS AND A COLD NIGHT BUT IT
WILL GET BETTER -- WHAT ABOUT
THE COATS --
>> Carolyn: AND THE BOOTS?
>> Anthony: WHAT COOL POSTERS
DID CAROLYN STOKES HAVE INSIDE
OF HER LOCKER IS WHAT I REALLY
WANT TO KNOW.
>> Carolyn: NEW KIDS ON THE
BLOCK, I'M DATING MYSELF.
>> Anthony: BUT THE LOCKERS,
AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT, OF
COURSE, THE MINISTER TOM OSBORNE
MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE'LL HAVE
MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THURSDAY.
AND MR. OSBOURNE WILL HAVE MANY,
MANY MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT
EDUCATION OVER THE NEXT COMING
DAYS AND INTO NEXT WEEK.
AND "HERE & NOW" WILL HAVE
EXTENSIVE COVERAGE ABOUT
EDUCATION.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE
ASSOCIATED STORY WITH THE
PANDEMIC.
AND, OF COURSE, THE REALITY IS
THAT WE'RE RELATIVELY
COVID-FREE.
SO DEEP BREATHS.
>> Carolyn: YEAH, A LOT OF
PARENTS ARE WONDERING WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT AND WE'LL
BE COVERING IT ALL.
>>> WELL, THAT'S IT FOR US
TONIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
>> Anthony: SEE YOU TOMORROW.
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