For many years the existence of dinosaur fossils
was thought to be a problem for creationists
and for the biblical account of the creation.
Hi, my name is Eric. And what you are about
to see is a powerful seminar ...
that combines the last 30 years of research
done by Dr. Kent Hovind.
It is in a field called: crypto-zoology. Which
is the study of: hidden animals.
This seminar is titled: “Dinosaurs and the
Bible”
Thank you for joining us; it’s an honor to
be here in Indiana.
How many have been to one of my seminars before
or seen one of my videos?
Okay, how many never have? And how many do
not understand the question so far?
Same three as yesterday. Okay. My name is
Kent Hovind. I taught High school Science
for fifteen years.
And now for the last sixteen years I have
been an evangelist.
I speak about 900 times a year now on the
subject of Creation, Evolution and dinosaurs.
I take the position that the Bible is literally
true and scientifically accurate.
The Evolutionary theory that is taught in
our schools, in violation to the first amendment,
is the dumbest and the most dangerous religion
in the history of planet earth.
I live in Pensacola, Florida. I have three
kids, one of each.
I have them all married the dog died. Praise
God I made it and I am home free.
And so far we have four grandkids and that’s
God reward
for not killing your own kids when you thought
about it.
So hang in there parents - it will be worth
it all!
All my family lives right around me and they
all work in the ministry.
So it’s great having kids that love the Lord.
A couple are back at the table back there
and one running the camera.
We have in our back yard in Pensacola, Florida:
Dinosaur Adventure Land.
I like dinosaurs. Our phone number is: 1-850-479-DINO,
(1-850-479-3466) and our web site is: www.drdino.com.
Dinosaur Adventure Land’s number is: 1-850-478-DINO,
(or 1-850-478-3466).
We like dinosaurs; we have thousands and thousands
of visitors come.
We have probably have had close to a thousand
people
get saved coming through our Dinosaur Adventure
Land.
Everything that we do there has a science
lesson and a spiritual lesson,
we have a great time using dinosaurs for the
glory of God.
For the last two hundred years, Christians
have been extremely
confused about where dinosaurs fit into the
Bible.
Last night I was witnessing to this lady at
the hotel and she said,
“I have a friend that told me that dinosaurs
never existed.”
One guy told me that the Devil put those bones
in the ground to fool us.
You are going to look like an idiot when you
talk to anyone
with normal intelligence when you say something
like that.
Yes, dinosaurs lived, and when did they live?
Where do dinosaurs fit into the Bible?
Here are two of my grandkids playing with
one of the dinosaurs
at Dinosaur Adventure Land. We have a wonderful
time.
Christians though are often very confused
where they fit in.
What has happened is that Christians have
compromised the clear
teaching of the Bible in order to accommodate
the dinosaurs.
That is why they have the “Gap theory” or
the “Day Age” or
the “Progressive Creation” or “Theistic Evolution.”
There is no need to do that.
I am going to give you the Biblical view of
dinosaurs here this morning.
This guy in National Pornographic, I mean Geographic, said that
no human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.
Now hold on a minute, does he know that or
does he think that? He thinks that.
There’s no possible way that he can know something
like that,
unless he talked to everybody that ever lived.
Do you think that he talked to Adam or Eve
before he wrote that?
Did he talk to you before he wrote that? No.
Okay that is not something that you can know?
The Bible says, (Genesis 1:1) “In the Beginning,
God created the Heaven and the Earth.”
It says “in six days The Lord made Heaven
and Earth, the sea and all that in them is.”
If he made everything in six days, then Adam
must have seen dinosaurs. There’s just no
two ways about it.
Yesterday we talked in Seminar part 2, about
what the Garden of Eden was like.
God says let there be a firmament, in the
mist of the waters.
And let it divide the waters from the waters.
We talked about how God originally created
the world with a ...
canopy of water over head which all fell down
at the time of the flood.
It’s gone now, and actually most of the water
was under the crust of the earth.
Psalm 24:1, “The Earth is the Lord’s, ... and
he founded it ...
upon the seas, and he established it upon
the floods.”
Psalm 136:6, “He stretched out the Earth above
the waters.”
I don’t know why Christians can read right
over that and not see what it is saying.
Most of the water that is now in the oceans
used to be down in the crust of the earth.
It all came shooting out when the “fountains
of the deep” broke open.
We cover that in Seminar #6; what caused the
flood in the days of Noah.
We call it the Hovind Theory so that no one
else will be blamed for it.
From the Creation 6000 years ago, up until
the Flood, 4400 years ago, the world was very different.
During that time frame the Bible says that
people lived over 900 years.
They really honestly did live to be 900 plus
years old.
Many ancient cultures have legends about what
they called an ancient Golden Age.
The Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Egyptians,
and others ...
all talked about a time where man lived to
be nearly a thousand.
That’s because it’s really true. They really
did live to be almost a thousand.
In Seminar #2 (“The Garden of Eden”) we covered
how reptiles grow all their life.
Reptiles never stop growing. So dinosaurs
were big lizards
that lived with Adam and Eve in the Garden
of Eden.
The dinosaurs did not live millions of years
ago.
So the obvious question would be, “Did Noah
take dinosaurs on the Ark?”
They asked Billy Graham, “Were there dinosaurs
on the ark?”
“No, Noah’s Ark did not include dinosaurs
because they were extinct by the time man
got here.”
I praise God for all the good that Billy Graham
has done, but he is dead wrong about that one.
“Dinosaurs on the ark?”, people ask.
I hope Noah kept the woodpeckers in a steel
cage of some kind ... that will be important
later.
People say, “Dinosaurs on the Ark?” Now Hovind;
they are kind of big aren’t they?
The big ones were big, but the little ones
were little.
You see Noah was 600 years old when he built
that big boat.
He was probably smart enough to know that
you do not have to bring the biggest dinosaurs.
You bring two babies, be sure to bring a pink
one and a blue one that will be important
later, okay.
There are all kinds of reasons for bringing
babies on the ark.
You bring babies because they are smaller.
The biggest dinosaur egg is smaller than a
football.
You bring babies because they weigh less,
they eat less,
they sleep a lot more, and they are a lot
tougher.
Do you know that when kids fall they bounce
and then they get up and keep running.
Adults fall down and break or they lay there
a while.
Plus you bring babies because after the flood
they will live longer to produce the offspring.
And that’s the whole reason that you are bringing
them.
Why on earth would you bring big elephants
on the ark?
That would be stupid, for multiple reasons.
Why would you bring a big giraffe? Just bring
babies of everything.
God told him to bring two of every sort, not
two of every species, no, two of every sort.
He said, bring them after his kind, after
their kind, after his kind....
The Bible is real clear on that topic. You
bring all the kinds, not every species.
You only have to bring those the whose nostrils
have the breath of life, of those on dry land.
Noah did not have to bring any fish on the
ark. They had plenty of water outside.
He also did not have to bring any bugs on
the Ark, because bugs do not have nostrils.
Bugs breathe through their skin, through spiracles.
Insects were not required to be on the Ark.
Insects can survive a flood just fine.
Go any place where there has been a flood,
after the water goes down.
Walk out into the mud and tell me the first
thing that you notice.
Bugs by the millions and millions, right?
Insects did not have to go on the ark.
Some of them might have been on there but
they did not have to be.
Noah did not take 400 pairs of dogs on the
ark.
Noah probably never saw a Chihuahua in his
life.
Why did somebody do that to the dog?
All that special breading to create a dog
that’s 100% useless.
Noah probably just had a generic dog like
my dog Nikki.
We had Nikki for 12 years before I knew what
kind of a dog it was.
A friend of mine came over and he said Hovind
you have a full blooded “Canhardly.”
I said, what? He said, “Your dog, that’s a
Canhardly.” I said, it is?
He said look you “can hardly” tell what kind
of dog it is. Ah, yes, a full blooded “Canhardly.”
Probably the horse and the zebra had a common
ancestor, like this Mexican textbook says.
And I would agree, the horse and zebra had
a common ancestor.
But it looked like a horse - “four wheel drive,
genuine leather upholstery” - all the horse
equipment.
Skeptics say, “How did Noah fit millions of
animals onto the ark?”
Well, in the first place he only brought land
animals.
Secondly he brought only those with nostrils,
no bugs.
Thirdly you bring babies, and that is just
common sense.
Fourthly, you bring two of each kind, not
every single variety, and God made the kinds.
And God told Noah how big to build the boat.
I bet God had it figured out what size to
make it, plus how many animals were there?
Many experts will tell you that there are
about 8,000 basic kinds of animals in the
world.
8,000 basic kinds of animals. Noah had 2 of
each kind, now seven of some, I understand.
There’s plenty of room on the ark for that.
Some atheists say that Adam could never name
all of those animals in one day.
When I get all excited I can speak 350 words
in a minute.
At 300 words in a minute you can name all
the animals in 26 minutes.
Dog, cat, elephant, aardvark, hamster, etc.
Plus you have got to figure that Adam had
an extremely high IQ.
He came straight from the hand of God, fully
programmed.
Did you know that he could speak every language
in the world?
Okay, there was only one language then.
The guy could walk, talk, and name all the
animals and get married the first day.
Adam probably had a super high IQ.
No problem for him to name all the animals
in a half hour. Okay what’s next?
What else do you have for me God? Plus how
big was the Ark?
I have atheists that I debate, they say, “Noah
could never put all those animals on the ark.”
I say, “Really, how many were there?” They
reply, “We don’t know.” I say, “How big was
the boat?”
“Well we don’t know. ...All we know is that
he couldn’t do it!” Oh I see, is that the
way this works?
It beats what they believe, they believe 18-
20 billion years ago there was a big bang.
Where nothing exploded - and made everything.
And 4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled
down.
And it formed a rocky crust, yes, the Planet
Earth cooled down and a rocky surface was
created.
And then as the earth formed, the surface
was hot and there were large pools of bubbling
lava.
This textbook says: “There was no oxygen on
the earth; zero percent oxygen.
But the rocks absorbed it.” I have been trying
to figure that one out for four years.
Then “Oceans formed as it rained on the rock
for million of years...”
“Million of years of torrential rains created
the oceans...”
And “swirling in the oceans is a bubbling
broth of complex chemicals...”
“Progress from a complex chemical soup to
a living organism is very slow.”
Boy, it sure is. It doesn’t even happen at
all, that’s how slow it is.
“Life on earth may have begun in rocks on
the ocean floor.” Wow, all life came from
a rock!
“The first self replicating system must have
emerged in this organic soup.”
So according to their theory, 20 billion years
ago there was a Big Bang.
4.6 billion years ago the Earth formed.
It was a hot ball of rock. And then it began
to rain, and rain, and rain, and rain.
And finally the oceans filled up. And in the
oceans the first living organisms appeared.
So great, great, great, great, great, great,
great grandpa was soup.
That’s the Evolutionary theory. I didn’t make
it up, they did,
You can laugh at them if you would like, as
far as I am concerned.
They asked me to come to a college in Boston
to speak one time.
I was going to speak at a church there.
I said, “Brother, call some of the colleges
and see if you can have a debate.”
I love to do a debate against these guys in
front of their own universities.
He called every college within a hundred miles
of Boston; there are lots of colleges around
Boston.
Finally one college said, “No, we don’t want
him to come and have a debate,
but he can come and speak to our students
if our professors can ask him any question,
because we would like to show our students
how dumb you Christians really are.”
I said, “I would be honored to come for that.”
So I showed up.
There were 6 professors, and all their students.
I felt like Daniel in the lion’s den.
I got my two time-lines out and I said, “Folks
I believe the Bible,” but nobody cheered.
I said that I believe that 6,000 years ago
God made everything.
4400 years ago God made a Flood.
Then everything got destroyed in the Great
Flood.
Noah had two of each kind, (not species) ... two
of every kind on the ark.
Since then there have been a whole lot of
new varieties produced.
And then I told them what they believe.
Most evolutionists don’t know what they believe;
you have got to tell them.
I said, “You guys believe 20 billion years
ago there was a Big Bang.
And 4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled
down.
It rained on the rocks for millions years,
turned them into soup.
And the soup came alive, about 3 billion years
ago.”
This one professor was getting very angry.
(I seem to do that to them.)
He said, “Mr. Hovind do you realize that there
are nearly 400 varieties of dogs in the world
today?”
I said, “Sir, I have no idea how many, but
400 sounds good.”
He said, “You mean to tell me that you believe
that all those dogs came from just two dogs
on Noah’s Ark?”
He said, “You want me to believe that?”
I replied, “Sir, would you look at what you
are teaching your students?”
You are teaching your students that all those
dogs came from - a rock.
He didn’t have any more questions after that.
I did a debate one time at a university and
afterwards this lady came walking down the
aisle.
Boy, was she mad. The smoke was coming out
of her nose.
I could tell that she was very angry at me.
She came walking straight up toward me.
I prayed, “Lord, I am coming home.”
She put her hands on her hips and said, “Tonight
you told everybody that
we believe that we come from a rock. We do
not believe that!”
I said, “Ma’am you need to calm down; you
are going to blow a gasket.”
I said, “Ma’am do you believe in evolution?”
She said, “Yes, I do. I am a professor here
at the university.”
I said, “Ma’am, would you please tell me where
did we come from?”
She said, “We came from a macro-molecule.”
I said, “Where did that come from?” She replied,
“From the oceans, the pre-biotic soup.”
I said, “Where did that come from?” She said,
“It rained on the rocks for millions of years....”
I could see that it was slowly dawning on
her what she really believed.
“You know ... I do believe that I come from
a rock.”
Yes ma’am, you better be careful when you
go outside.
You had better be careful, don’t step on grandpa.
I found her life verse, (Jeremiah 2:27) “Saying
to a stock,
you are my father, to a stone thou hast brought
me forth.”
There’s grandpa, the rock that’s right there.
I even found my Dad’s life verse in the Bible
too, (Matthew 17:15)
“Lord have mercy on my son: for he is a lunatic,
and sore vexed.”
The Bible says, (Genesis 6:11-12) “The earth
was corrupt and filled with violence ...
... and God looked upon the earth and it was
corrupt;
... All flesh had corrupted his way upon the
Earth.”
(Genesis 6:13-14) “And God said to Noah, the
end of all flesh has come before me. ...
... The earth is filled with violence through
them. ...
I will destroy them with the earth, make thee
an Ark....”
And Noah said to his boys, “Boys, go for wood
we’ve got to build a boat.”
So they went and got all this wood, and they
built this huge boat.
Now after the flood was over, Noah son had
a baby and name him Arphaxhad.
Why would any body name a kid, Arphaxhad?
Can’t you see that poor kid in kindergarten,
“What’s your name son?”
Arphaxhad. Do you know how to spell it? No.
Nobody does.
Don’t you think that one day little Arphaxhad
is getting big enough he is sitting on grandpa’s
lap.
And he’s looking around like kids do, he says,
“Hey Grandpa, I have a question, how come
we are the only people in the world?”
You mean we have this whole planet to ourselves?
What happened?
Grandpa is going to tell him the story about
the flood.
Actually, they are going to be talking about
the flood for a long time.
Down in Pensacola, Florida we are going to
be talking about Hurricane Ivan
for a long time, and that’s just one little
storm.
Can you imagine a world wide flood? They will
talk about that for centuries.
Arphaxhad’s daddy, Shem, (Noah’s son) lived
long enough to tell that story to directly
to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
You will never catch that reading your Bible,
but when you graph that out, it is there.
Did you know that they are still talking about
that Flood in many cultures around the world?
So far 270 Great Flood legends have been identified
in different countries and cultures around
the world.
The Hawaiians have a legend that says that
“long after the death of Kuniuhonna, the first
man ...
... the world became a wicked and terrible
place to live.”
There was one good man left; his name was
Nu-u.
He made a great canoe with a house on it,
and filled it with animals.
The waters came up over all the Earth and
killed all the people.
Only Nu-u and his family was saved in a boat
filled with animals.
Sounds like the Bible’s Flood story doesn’t
it?
The Chinese have a legend called the Hihking
classic.
They say that Fuhi is the father of their
civilization.
(The man they know of as Fuhi, is probably
Noah.)
The story says and Fuhi, his wife and their
three sons and three daughters, escaped a
great flood.
He and his family were the only people alive
on the earth.
After the Great Flood they repopulated the
world.
The Toltec Indians in Mexico have a very interesting
story.
They said the first world lasted 1716 years
and said it was destroyed by a flood that
covered the highest mountains.
One family called Coxcox survived. 1716 years...?
Well the Bible date equal up to 1656 years
from the Creation to the Flood. That’s not
bad for a legend that’s over 4000 years old!
Question: Why would there be nearly 300 flood
legends?
I think it is because there was a Flood. That’s
my theory.
Probably the Atlantis legend, and everybody
searching for the
lost continents of Atlantis, probably that’s
another flood legend.
As far as the folks on the boat were concerned,
the whole world sank beneath the waves.
Actually they were going up, they weren’t
going down. I think Atlantis is another flood
story.
If you are looking at the country of Turkey,
on the far eastern side you will find a mountain,
Mount Ararat.
It is 12 miles from the Russian border; a
very politically unstable region.
On a Turkish map it is called “Nuhun Gemisi”
which means “Noah’s big boat.”
They have got signs; you drive right up to
it: “Noah’s big boat” go this way, 5 Kilometers.
The Bible says the Ark rested in the seventh
month, now that’s interesting.
Noah did not get out until the 13th month.
Why would he stay in there for 5 1/2 extra
months after the ark rested?
We cover all the reasons why in Seminar #6,
“The Hovind Theory.”
The Bible says it rested in the seventh month
upon the mountains of Ararat (plural).
The Bible does not say that the ark landed
on Mt. Ararat. Read it carefully, it does
not say that.
It says that it landed - upon the mountains
of Ararat.
Actually there are about four theories about
what happened to the Noah’s Ark.
One theory says that they took it apart and
used the lumber for buildings.
Second theory says it rotted. The third theory
says that it is still on the mountain.
And the fourth theory says it is in the valley.
The guys that think that it is on the mountain
go over there every couple of years, on a
big expedition.
They climb the mountain and they all come
back and say that they almost found it.
I am not sure how you can know that you almost
found something.
That’s what they say. Maybe it’s there, I
don’t know. It doesn’t matter to me at all.
But other folks say, “Hey guys it isn’t even
on the mountain, it’s down in the valley 17
miles a way.”
And they think that is Noah’s Ark right there,
a boat shaped object, kind of a tear dropped
shape.
In 1960, this was discovered by a high altitude
surveillance plane.
In 1978 there was an earthquake, either it
lifted up, or the ground dropped down, the
results are the same.
Now this object is sticking up out of the
ground about 18 - 20 feet (5.8 m).
Ron Wyatt died in 1999, he was a good friend
of mine.
He and many others have spent years studying
this thing that they think is Noah’s ark.
Like I said, I don’t know. It really doesn’t
matter to me where it is.
Some Creationist get all upset with anybody
that mentions that there might be another
theory besides theirs.
Look - my approach to any subject is, if there
is more than one option then tell everybody
all the options.
When there are various theories on whatever
- go ahead and research it yourself.
I think that you should look at all the options.
Richard Reeves took over for Ron Wyatt.
There he is in front of his model of Noah’s
Ark. According to them the ark has collapsed.
Obvious a boat that old would cave in and
fold out to the side; it splayed.
One of the argument the skeptics use is that
it is too wide to be Noah’s Ark.
Of course it is too wide. Boats all do that.
They fall outwards.
If you see a rotten boat someplace you will
see the same affect, but radar scans showed
that there are deck timbers.
Some kind of huge timbers in there. Apparently
there is some big kind of structure. They
also find iron rivets in there.
The ark was bolted together. They knew about
iron back then, that’s not a problem.
You can see the rivets at the Wyatt Museum,
www.wyattmuseum.com, south of Nashville, Tennessee.
They used laminated wood, they used three
layers of wood glued together with a tar-like
substance.
The pitch was made from tree sap.
Apparently it is made like basic plywood;
huge thick layers of wood, and there’s no
grain in the wood.
It is almost like the trees did not have growing
seasons with the wood they were using.
The Wyatt Museum is a converted gas station,
just south of Nashville on exit 27.
It is on the northwest corner; you can stop
down there and see them.
Mrs. (Mary Nell) Wyatt wrote a book, called,
...
...“The Boat Shaped Object on Doomsday Mountain,”
with all the research that she and her husband
had done.
Apparently the ark rested close to Mount Ararat,
got stuck in the mud, then everyone got off
and left.
Sometime later, there was a mud flow or a
lava flow, that pushed the Ark down and broke
the bottom off.
What use to be the keel, full of ballast for
weight to keep it upright.
It was broken off and it’s way up on the mountain.
The Ark has apparently shifted and moved down
several miles from where it used to be.
It used to be way over here to the left, at
a little village named Kazan, which in Turkish
means, “village of eight.”
“Village of Eight,?” now wait a minute, there
were eight people on the boat.
Apparently the ark has shifted down from where
it used to be in the past.
The government of Turkey, studied all this,
and they said that it is Noah’s Ark.
They even built a visitor’s center up there.
Some folks have said that it is not Noah’s
Ark; it is a boat shaped object, it is just
a flow stone.
It’s a flow formation around a stationary
object.
When mud flows around something it makes that
tear drop shape.
Like an airplane wing. But the pointed end
of the tear drop is always down stream.
The rounded end is upstream, like an airplane
wing. This one is backwards.
There are flow formations in that area, but
this is not one of them.
One guy argued it is just a fort. Who would
build a fork under a hill?
The other guys could throw rocks down inside.
Some Creationists say it is not Noah’s Ark,
and they get mad at me for even mentioning
it.
I am going to keep mentioning until I start
working for you and then I’ll quit, okay?
The Bible says that the Ark is 300 Cubits
long (140 meters), a cubit is elbow to finger
tip.
I am six foot one; my cubit is 21 inches (53
cm).
The average standard Egyptian cubit was 20.65
inches (52 cm), just a little shorter than
mine.
That boat shaped object is 515 feet (157 m)
long, which is 300 Egyptian cubits.
But that does not prove that it is the ark.
It is interesting that it is the right size.
It is about two-thirds of the size of the
Titanic.
About two football fields long. A pretty good
size boat.
In that region in the village of Kazan, they
found twelve giant rocks.
They weigh 9,000 pounds (4000 kg) each. Each
rock has a hole near the top.
Apparently these rocks were to be suspended
over the sides of the boat.
It would be what is called an anchor stone
or a drogue stone.
And the hole near the top of the rock is actually
a curved hole.
I have drilled a lot of holes in my life and
I’ve done a lot of building and construction.
I don’t know how you would drill a curved
hole through a rock, but there they are.
When the sea of Galilee dried up quite a bit
ten years ago,
it exposed all kinds of things that it not
been exposed in centuries.
All around there they found hundreds of small
rocks with holes in them.
It’s a common practice in stormy areas like
that to put rocks around the side of the boat
to keep the boat stabilized. They would give
it some weight.
If it gets windy, drop them down into the
water and you have a sea anchor.
There are a lot of people that actually think
they are drogue stones or sea anchors for
Noah’s Ark.
What this would do, this would make the boat
stable during stormy weather.
It is almost like you are anchored to the
water if you can imagine that.
If it gets really windy the rocks will drag
behind you.
And now you stay perpendicular to the waves,
you can not capsize.
One atheist wrote me a letter and said, “Hovind,
I heard in your seminar about Noah’s Ark ...
having big rocks hanging over the side, you
are so stupid. ...
Don’t you know if it had rocks hanging all
over the boat it would slow him down!?”
I wrote back, “Where was he going?” There
was no place to go.
The whole world was under water at that time.
He is just trying to float.
You see, Noah, the instructions are real simple.
Get in, sit down, float, land, and get out.
You do not have to go anywhere, no sails;
you do not have to steer the boat.
One atheist said, “A sail boat was built with
six masts and it leaked so badly ...
because of the twisting from the sails.” Noah’s
Ark did not have any sails, it was just designed
to float.
Some people think it may have had a moon pool
in the center.
That is because a long ship has a hard time
going over the waves.
It tends to lift up and the ends are exposed
and it tends to flex or break in the middle.
Well if Noah’s Ark had a moon pool that would
solve the problem.
What it is, is a hole in the center of the
boat.
As the waves go up and down, the water goes
up and down in the center of the hole.
Of course you have a wall built up on the
inside, it is called a moon pool.
As the water goes up and down inside that
moon pool going over the waves.
It acts like a giant piston forcing fresh
air in and out of the boat every time you
hit a wave.
You might actually pray for a good wave once
in a while.
“Lord we are about to feed the elephants,
would you please send a wave?”
What happened to the dinosaurs when Noah got
off the ark?
You know the question of what happened to
the dinosaurs, has been used in schools ...
to start a conversation about Evolution, for
a long time.
One of Satan’s favorite tools to use is dinosaurs,
because kids love them.
I spoke at a public school one time to 300
first graders, try that some time.
I drove a church bus for 17 years. I also
taught junior church for 17 years.
There were 300 first graders in this room
where I was speaking.
I got my dinosaurs out and I said, “Boys and
girls, I have a question for you, when did
dinosaurs live?”
Instantly, they all shouted out, “Millions
of years ago!”
I thought, wait a minute these kids are in
first grade.
They can barely read. How do they believe
that already?
Where have the Christian been teaching the
truth about Creation.
Why are we waiting until the kids to get their
minds polluted with Evolution and then try
to win them back.
Why don’t we not lose them to begin with?
Why hasn’t there been a Christian response
to this dinosaur stuff?
What the Christian did in the 1800’s is they
compromised their Bible.
They invented the “Gap Theory” to accommodate
the dinosaurs.
They let Satan have the dinosaurs; that is
what happened.
Anyways there are sixteen evolutionary theories
as to what happened to the dinosaurs.
One theory says, asteroids struck the Yucatan
Peninsula of Mexico and killed them all 65
million years ago.
A scientist here in Indiana said that dinosaurs
killed themselves off with their own flatulence.
They could not stand the heat. I am not sure
what to do with a theory like that.
Here is the real reason why they went extinct:
smoking.
What made the dinosaurs go extinct?
Do you realize they are asking the wrong question?
The question is not, “What made them go extinct?”
The question is, “Did they go extinct?”
The liberals are always real good at getting
us to argue about the wrong subject.
They are always asking me, “Should we have
Creation taught in the public schools?”
That’s a good question, I would be glad to
discuss that.
However there is another question we should
ask first.
The real question is: “Should we have public
schools?” Let’s argue about that one for a
while first.
If we are going to have them, then we should
discuss what could be taught in them.
Who decides what is going to be taught in
them?
Does Bill Clinton decide what’s taught? Or
Osama Bin Laden decide what’s taught?
Should you decide what’s taught, or should
I decide?
The whole problem is that some people have
this idiot idea that children belong to the
state.
No, no, no, children belong to God, they are
entrusted to parents.
The parents should decide what God wants them
to be taught, the state does not ever have
children.
It is sterile, it can’t have children, they
want to steal yours.
The Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution
says that the federal government ...
only has certain very limited powers. And
anything else is left to the states.
The federal government has no business being
involved in education, ...
or welfare, or hurricane relief, or anything
else.
If you want to see why the schools went public,
there are many articles.
One by Samuel Blumenfeld, that is incredible,
that tells why we have a public school system.
It is all a part of the plan for a “New World
Order.” A big part of the plan.
Get our college class, CSE 102. I teach college
classes on Creation, that go into much more
detail.
I chase every rabbit, and kick every dog.
You can get that if you get time.
Dinosaurs getting off the Ark had a very difficult
time.
The climate had changed; the world was different.
Remember before the flood people lived to
be 900 years old. Read your Bible.
After the Flood they only lived to be 400
years old, and 200 years old, then 100 years
old.
Something changed. Well, for one thing the
canopy overhead was gone.
Also, the soil was now not loaded with minerals
like it is suppose to be to have plants grow
like crazy.
The atmospheric pressure was different; the
canopy had collapsed; it was gone, I believe.
Sunlight was getting through, with additional
types of damaging radiation, etc.
Many more problems were in the post-Flood
environment.
Dinosaurs had two problems: Number one, the
climate change.
Number two, was probably worse; people hunted
them; they killed them.
No, they did not call them dinosaurs then
though. They called them: dragons.
The word “dinosaur” was not made up until
1841.
So for most of human history these creatures
were called: Dragons.
Dinosaur is not even the dictionary in 1891.
For most of human history they were known
as dragons.
Dragons are mentioned in the Bible 34 times.
People say, “Why aren’t there dinosaurs in
the Bible?”
I was talking to a lady at the counter at
the hotel, she said, dinosaurs are not in
the Bible.
I said, that’s correct, that word wasn’t made
up until 1841.
If you got the right Bible, that was translated
1611.
So of course you will not find that word in
there, they called them: dragons.
Dragons are listed in the dictionary in 1946,
as “now rare.”
As the population of people began to grow,
after the Flood, the population of dragons
began to go down.
Because nobody wants to live next door to
a dragon.
Same thing happened in Cob County Georgia,
where Atlanta is today.
Do you know how many grizzly bears are near
Atlanta, Georgia today? -Zero.
Do you know how many there were just three
hundred years ago? -Hundreds.
What happened to the grizzly bears in Cobb
County, Georgia?
As people move in and civilize an area, big
ferocious animals are killed off or driven
off, this happens everywhere.
If it came on the evening news tonight that
there were 5 Grizzly Bears roaming around
Cobb County, ...
do you know what would happen by six o’clock
in the morning? They would all be dead.
Because every redneck in four states would
be out there with a rifle, trying to shoot
one, right?
And whoever could shoot the biggest one would
be a hero.
They would have his picture on the front page,
“Bubba shot the Grizzly Bear” and saved the
village.
That is exactly what happened to the dragons.
If you could figure out a way to kill a dragon,
they would be telling stories about you around
the campfire.
People killed dragons for meat, because they
were a menace, to prove that you were a hero,
or ...
to prove that you are superior, in competition
for land, or for medicinal purposes.
Many ancient recipes call for dragon blood,
dragon bones, dragon saliva, why?
Gilgamesh is famous for slaying a dragon.
A Chinese legend tells about a guy named Yu
that surveyed the land of China.
It says, that after the Flood he surveyed
the land, he divided it off into sections.
He built channels to drain water off to sea
and make the land livable again.
Many snakes and dragons were driven from the
marshlands.
You know that’s normal that if you want to
build a city.
You have to drive off the dragons, then build
your city.
It was expected that you have got to drive
the dragons away or kill them.
Why would the Chinese calendar have eleven
real animals:
the pig, the duck, the dog, and ... the dragon?
Why would they put just one “mythical” animal
in there?
Could it be at the time they that they came
up with these animals there were 12 real animals?
There is one of the oldest pieces of pottery
on Planet Earth.
It’s a piece of slate from Egypt; the first
dynasty of United Egypt.
It shows long necked dragons; we make replicas
of it.
If you want to get one for a prize for your
bus route, or to give out to the kid who does
whatever.
They will go crazy over this thing; it is
half size replicas of one of the oldest pieces
of pottery on Earth.
Why would they put long necked dinosaurs on
pottery 3,800 years ago?
Here are two long necked dinosaurs with a
sheep in between them in their mouths.
Here is a hippo tusk from the twelve century
B.C., showing an animal with a long neck,
and a long tail.
Here’s a cylinder seal, showing what appears
quite obviously to be a long neck dinosaurs.
The Bible talks about a fiery flying serpent,
in Isaiah 14.
Wait a minute: a fiery flying serpent? Sometime,
read the story of Herodotus.
Herodotus said he went to a certain place
in Arabia, almost exactly opposite Buto, ...
to make inquiries of the winged serpents.
“On my arrival I saw the back bones and ribs
of serpents in such numbers that is impossible
to describe.”
The winged serpent is shaped like the water
snake.
Its wings are not feathered; but resemble
very closely those of the bat.
The place where the bones lie is at the entrance
of a narrow gorge, between steep mountains.
The story goes, “With the Spring, the winged
snakes come flying from Arabia toward Egypt.
...
But are met in this gorge by the bird ibises,
who forbid their entrance and destroy them
all.”
The book of Josephus talks about the fiery
flying serpent that Moses had to kill when
he came to Ethiopia.
And he ended up marrying the princess of the
Ethiopians, which is why his sister got mad
at him later.
She was mad because he married an Ethiopian.
Not because she was black, but because how
this all happened.
Read the story about Moses in the Josephus
book sometime.
In the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles it talks about
in 793 A.D. the fiery dragons flying across
the firmament.
The Babylonian god Marduk, he is shown pictured
on a fire breathing dragon.
“Now, Brother Hovind, you do not believe in
fire breathing dragons do you?”
Yes, I believe there were some. We cover all
that in our video tape about Leviathan.
In Job 41, it talks about the Leviathan, it
says:
“Out of his mouth go burning lamps and sparks
of fire leap out.”
“Out of his nostrils goeth smoke.” You know,
I have seen deacons do that in the Southern
Baptist churches.
So that’s no big deal, “His breath kindleth
coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.”
Now wait, was there really a fire breathing
dragon?
Well you should watch the Leviathan video,
about the fire breathing dragon.
If you get a Catholic bible, you find the
book of Daniel has two extra chapters in it.
It is a part of the Apocrypha books, Daniel
13 and 14. Very interesting reading.
Definitely not Scripture, but in Daniel 14,
it says,
“there was a great dragon in the place and
the Babylonians worshipped him.”
“And the king said to Daniel, Behold thou
canst not say that this is not a living god,
adore him therefore.”
“And Daniel said, I adore the Lord my God,
for he is the living God, but that is no living
god.”
“But give me leave (that is giving permission
to go), ...
and I will kill this dragon without sword
or club and the king said, I give thee leave.”
“Then Daniel took pitch, and fat, and hair,
and boiled them together and made lumps,
and put them into the dragons mouth, and the
dragon burst asunder.”
What a strange story, Let me give you the
Hovind translation.
The Bible tells us that Daniel was a man who
understood science.
Those are the kind of young men that Nebuchadnezzar
took away from Israel at that time.
Daniel would have known full well that pitch
was made from tree sap and it is very sticky.
Fat is salty tasting, and almost all animals
like things that are salty tasting.
And Daniel knew that hair can’t be digested.
So he made little lumps of pitch, fat and
hair, and tossed them in the dragon’s den.
He swallowed them, but then could not digest
them, and they plugged up his intestinal tract.
And these were the days before plumbers, so
he burst open.
Saddam Hussein had quite an ego problem, and
he thought that he was Nebuchadnezzar, reincarnated.
George Bush always called him Sa-daam Hussein;
I wondered why he called him Sa-daam Hussein.
It was Sa-daam. Well Saddam means: prince.
Sa-daam means: horse’s rear end.
He called him: Sa-daam Hussein.
Saddam issued currency with his picture in
front of Nebuchadnezzar.
Saddam spent a fortune rebuilding the Ancient
City of Babylon.
Ancient Babylon was discovered buried in the
dry sand over there.
The bricks were nearly in perfectly preserved
by the dry sand.
So they excavated Ancient Babylon and rebuilt
it.
Babylon has been totally rebuilt in the last
20 or 30 years or so.
Saddam put a brick every ten feet around the
wall saying, “I am Saddam Hussein. ...
... I have rebuilt Babylon the Great; I am
the grandson of Nebuchadnezzar.”
But on that original wall they found carvings
of lions and carvings of dragons.
I can understand why there would be a lion
on there. We know about lions.
But why would they put carvings of dragons
on a brick wall, 2,600 years ago?
Maybe because they knew about dragons.
They are still there, you can go see them,
a friend of mine was there as a soldier.
The Ishtar Gate is covered in them, alternating
images of lions and dragons.
We made a model of it for Dinosaur Adventure
Land.
If you want to come to Pensacola, Florida,
that is a little closer than Iraq for most
of you.
Alexander the Great said his soldiers were
scared by dragons when they conquered part
of India in 300 B.C.
This Roman Mosaic shows two long necked dragons
fighting, or kissing. Now that would be necking,
wow!
How did the Romans know about dragons in 200
A.D?
Saint George is famous for slaying a dragon
in 275 A.D.
Beowulf slew two dragons and the third one
killed him.
You should try to read the Beowulf story in
Old English.
Good luck, that’s English. 1,500 years ago
that was English.
I can only read the first word on the page
and that looks like it says “DUH.”
When they translate the story to modern English
the story tells us that Beowulf kills Grendel
the dragon ...
... by pulling off one of its small arms,
and the creature bled to death. Pulled off
his arm?
They found a Babylonian cylinder seal showing
a guy pulling the arm off a dragon. Interesting.
Get the book “After the Flood,” by Bill Cooper,
if you want a whole lot more on dragons living
with man.
There’s a city in France that’s famous because
a dragon came up out of the water and a guy
killed it.
He cut the head off and stuck it over the
corner of the building.
The head of the dragon was mounted on his
building.
They called it the Gargoyle. How many have
ever heard of the Gargoyle?
They still do that today, you can buy these
ugly little creatures and put them on your
buildings or over your door.
The word Gargoyle means “throat.”
We get our English word gargle, gurgle, regurgitate,
gorge and glutton; all related to the throat.
So the next time you gargle, you can think
about slaying a dragon.
You say, “Brother Hovind, I am slaying a dragon
when I gargle.”
An Irish writer said they killed a dragon
with iron nails on its tail.
A Stegosaurus certainly had big spikes on
his tail, that’s for sure. So did several
other animals.
There’s Viking wood cut showing a dragon swallowing
a man.
This is from the 11th century, 1,000 years
ago.
The Vikings put dragon heads on their ships
1,000 years ago, why would they do that?
They knew about the great dragons of the sea,
they called it the Kraken.
Again Bill Cooper has a lot about that in
his book, “After the Flood.”
The famous Icelandic hero Siegfried slew the
dragon Fafnir.
Bricks were found in a castle from the 12th
century showing dragons.
Here is a 12th century castle in Germany showing
dragons on it.
Why would they put dragons on their castle?
Marco Polo lived in China for 17 years.
When he came back he said that the emperor
is raising dragons to pull chariots in his
parades.
Why would Marco Polo say that? Probably because
...
the Chinese Emperor was raising dragons to
pull chariots in his parade; that’s my theory.
In 1611 in China, they appointed the post
of “Royal Dragon Feeder.”
Why do you need a royal dragon feeder? Let
me guess, to feed the dragon.
There is a 13th century castle that has dragons
on it.
There’s a grave from the 15th century carved
in brass showing two long necked dinosaurs.
This 16th century castle has dragons on it.
We have seven coins in our museum on loan
they are silver dollars from 1500’s to 1600’s.
They are real silver dollars, all of them
show somebody slaying a dragon.
Dragons were common even up to 400 years ago.
Everybody knew about slaying dragons. Of course
you have to slay a dragon.
That’s standard procedure. Slay the dragon,
save the princess, or whatever.
There’s a Russian medallion a guy is killing
a dragon.
A Bulgarian postage stamp has somebody killing
a dragon.
The crest of Lithuania shows somebody killing
a dragon.
A city in France was renamed Nerluc, to honor
the man that slew the dragon.
Indians in America carved dinosaurs on the
walls of the Grand Canyon.
Why would they put dinosaurs on the walls
of the Grand Canyon.
Maybe it is because they saw and hunted dinosaurs
around there?
In 1925, some guys took a raft trip down the
canyons out west and they wrote a report.
They saw one of these dinosaurs. They said
the fact that some prehistoric man ...
made a pictograph of a dinosaur on the walls
of this canyon upsets completely all of our
theories.
Oh, they upset his theories, oh no. He said,
“About a year ago, ...
a photograph of dinosaur was shown to a scientist
of national repute, who was then specializing
in dinosaurs.
He said, it is not a dinosaur, it is impossible,
because we know dinosaurs were extinct 12
million years ...
... before man appeared on earth.” Hold on
just a minute.
In the first place it is not possible for
you to know that what happened 12 million
years ago.
Let’s just get that straight. Secondly, notice
he said “12 million.”
Today the kids are taught that dinosaurs died
“65 million years ago,” aren’t they?
65 million years ago? It is interesting to
see the inflation of the age of the earth.
In 1770, they said the earth 70,000 years
old. By 1902, it was 2 billion years old.
In 1969 it was 3.5 billions of years old.
Today it is 4.6 billion years old.
Do you know the earth is getting older at
the rate of 21 million years per year.
That is 40 years per minute; the Earth is
aging rapidly.
If you go to Blanding, Utah you will see carvings
of dinosaurs on the cliff there.
Apparently they knew about dinosaurs in Utah.
The Indians knew about them. They killed them,
apparently.
This is a cave painting in Australia, showing
a guy running away from what appears to be
a dinosaur.
I can’t pronounce the name of this place in
Canada: Misshepezhieu, in Ontario.
It looks like these Indians painted something
on the cliff there that appears to be like
a dinosaur ...
... with a dermal frill ridge going down its
back.
This is a painting in Australia, these guys
are all dancing around a dinosaur.
Apparently they are upset because it ate their
friend.
There’s the friend inside. Give him back please
right now.
This guy says no one has seen a dinosaur then
why did they put them on cave paintings?
Why did they put them on ancient pottery?
Why do we see so many legends of dragons if
nobody has ever seen one?
Down in Peru, they’ve got the driest desert
in the world.
It’s only rained twice in 400 years, this
is my understanding.
When the Spanish came across there in the
1500’s, they found white lines on the desert.
They were obviously manmade. Somebody piled
up the rocks.
There’s a pile of white rocks, goes sometimes
for miles, straight as an arrow.
These today are called the Nazca Lines. How
many have heard of the Nazca images?
They’ve got all these images down there in
Peru. You can study that if you’d like.
But strange, these images are interesting,
but one of them shows a spider.
The spider has no eyes and one leg is longer
than the rest.
And for centuries everybody thought that these
were for poor, ignorant, stupid people.
They forgot to put the eyes on, and they made
the one leg longer by accident.
Recently there was a particular spider discovered
in the Amazon Jungle, a thousand miles away.
It only lives in caves, and it’s extremely
rare. It is suppose to be one of the rarest
spider on earth.
It’s 1/8 of an inch (3 mm) long, a little,
tiny spider.
It lives a thousand miles a way in the dark
caves; the spider has no eyes.
And during mating season, that one particular
leg grows longer and it exchanges DNA off
the tip of the leg.
How do they know that in Peru, a thousand
miles a way? Maybe they weren’t so stupid
after all.
In 1535, the Spanish conquistadors came through
that area and they found stones with strange
animals on them.
They sent a few back to the king of Spain,
and said “What on earth are these animals
carved on these rocks?”
The king said, I have no clue. Today they
are called the Ica Burial Stones, from Ica,
Peru.
Dennis Swift is probably the world’s expert
on those; he is one of my good friends from
Portland, Oregon.
He did a great session at our creation boot
camp in 2005.
Our Creation Boot Camp that we have in Pensacola,
Florida.
We have his DVDs with him speaking on the
Ica Stones.
It is incredible; you can still get those
on our web site.
These stones show dinosaurs on them.
The Ica Burial Stones from about the time
of Christ, plus or minus a few hundred years.
Some of them show brain surgery. They find
brain surgery instruments: hardened copper.
They had tempered copper instruments for cutting
into people heads, apparently.
Some of them show heart surgery and limb reattachment.
One of them showed what looked like steam
engine.
Strange things are found on these Ica stones
in Peru, quite a few of them.
Over 500, I believe, show dinosaurs. Why would
they have dinosaurs and humans on the same
stones?
Well because people lived with dinosaurs.
There’s one from our museum.
It shows a dinosaur holding a guy by the head.
This one shows what appears to be a guy cutting
the head off the dragon, because it killed
his friend.
You can see the friend’s body is inside, but
his head is missing.
So his buddy is just doing what the Bible
says, “Vengeance is fine sayeth the Lord.”
This guy is jabbing one through the throat
with a spear.
This one is hard to see, but this one is shoving
the spear down the dragons throat.
The dragon has got the guy by the arm, and
apparently his spirit is leaving, it is flying
off to Heaven.
Or wherever they believe they go after death
in their culture.
This guy has the knife stuck in the dragon’s
head, and the dragon is biting the guy.
We have eight of these stones in Pensacola,
Florida, the largest collection in America,
I believe.
At 1500 dollars each, not too many people
have these things.
Some of them show circles on the side. That
is kind of interesting.
Why would they put circles on the sides of
the dinosaurs?
Nobody had ever found dinosaur skin, until
about 20 years ago, when fossilized skin was
found.
It is very interesting that dinosaur skin
has circle patterns on it.
They had to see a live one to know to put
that one on the stones.
Because you couldn’t tell that there were
circles on the skin from the bones alone.
We have some dinosaur skin in our museum in
Pensacola, Florida.
Recently they just found some unfossilized
soft dinosaur tissue. Soft dinosaur tissue?
So now the brilliant scientists are trying
to figure out how could tissue stay soft for
70 million years?
The thought will never cross their brain that
it may not be 70 million years old.
That thought will never enter their heads.
This guy is cutting the head off a dragon.
There’s a guy riding one.
We have got a ton of information about dinosaurs
living with man.
Sometimes there is a friendly gesture.
Like this one shows a man petting one, he
has his head laying on its shoulder.
Pottery was found with dinosaurs on it.
A mummy was found in a tomb wrapped in a blanket,
and all around the blanket were dinosaurs.
Why would they put dinosaurs on their blankets?
Why would they put it on their pottery?
Why would they carve them on cliff walls?
Why would they put them on their waistbands?
In Acambaro, Mexico, about 56,000 ceramic
figurines of dinosaurs were found.
They knew about them in central Mexico.
They have always lived with man, they did
not live millions of years ago.
But the evolutionists today say that dinosaurs
lived millions of years ago ...
and that no one has ever seen one. Yes, I
think they have.
An Italian peasant killed a dragon that was
bothering his cows.
They had it stuffed and mounted for a museum
display in 1572.
By the way, do you know why so many Italians
are called: Tony?
Years ago many of them were coming to America.
A little bit of trivia there.
The Sutton Artifact shows what appears to
be a Pterodactyl with his wings folded up.
This lady sent me this picture of a dragon
found in Utah.
She said, “Brother Hovind, it looks like a
dinosaur to me” carved on a cliff up here.
Roman artifacts were found in Tucson, Arizona.
By the way the Romans came across the ocean
a long time before Columbus did.
Columbus was not the first white man across
the ocean.
There was trade back and forth for centuries
until the dark ages came ...
and shut down overseas knowledge and information.
Brendan the Navigator came across in 500A.D.
Hebrew coins were found in Ohio in a burial
mound.
There was trade back and forth in the time
of Christ, across the Atlantic Ocean.
In Los Lunas, the Decalogue Stone, was found
in New Mexico.
There’s an 80 ton stone showing the Ten Commandments,
in Byzantine.
This language version which was only used
around 500 A.D., according to my understanding.
Somebody came across to evangelize America,
made it as far as New Mexico, 1,500 years
ago.
One of these Roman swords shows what quite
obviously appears to be a dinosaur on it.
How on earth can they get dinosaurs on their
swords at the time of the Roman Empire?
During the age of sailing ships there are
thousands of legends of people with sightings
of sea monsters.
Well if you are in sailboat it is quiet going
through the water.
Today in a diesel engine they can hear you
coming 50 miles away under water.
Of course you are not going to see one today.
(They’ll hear you coming from afar.)
There are legends all over the world - of
dragons living with man.
I think we really have been lied to. We can
spend a long time on dragon legends.
I read prolifically on that topic about dragon
sightings down through history.
Get our Seminar #3 if you want more on dragon
legends.
Do you know that there are actually stories
on giant octopus living in the ocean?
I mean like really, really, really big octopus.
One particular octopus washed up on the beach
in Florida.
It was 200 feet across and weighed 5 tons.
That’s a big octopus.
A whale was killed near Seattle; inside the
whale’s stomach was one arm to an octopus
that was 150 feet long.
Whales love to eat octopus. If a whale eats
too much octopus he will get sick and puke
it back up.
If you ever see a piece of puked up octopus
floating around in the ocean be sure to grab
it.
It is worth a fortune. Does anybody know what
they use out of puked up octopus?
Perfume, that is correct. That explains a
few things, doesn’t it, fellows?
“Hey dear, you smell like a puked up octopus.”
“Yes, and you can sleep on the couch for a
month too.”
There are giant squids found out there in
the ocean.
I mean really big squids, we could spend a
long time on that one.
A giant squid washed up on the beach in New
Zealand.
They said it was a baby. Full grown it would
be 150 feet long.
People say, “Now wait, Dr. Hovind, if there
are dinosaurs mentioned in history, ...
are there dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible
too?” Oh yeah!
Dinosaurs in the Bible? Yes, we are going
cover that in the next session.
Dinosaurs are not only mentioned in the Bible,
some dinosaurs might actually still be alive.
We will cover that in a minute.
Okay, let’s take up where we left off. “Dinosaurs
in the Bible.”
People say, “Dinosaurs aren’t in the Bible!”
Well of course the word “dinosaur” is not
in the Bible. That word did not exist until
1841.
The word “computer” is not in there either,
but there really are computers.
But yes, dinosaurs are actually mentioned
in the Bible. Just read your Bible carefully.
If you get the book of Job, the book of Job
has 42 chapters.
Job is in about the center in the Bible, just
before the Book of Psalms.
You will find it to be a very fascinating
book.
In Job chapter 1, it says Job was a perfect
man. He feared God and hated evil.
By the way that is good advice. Job had 7
sons and 3 daughters.
And Job had thousands of sheep, and camels,
and oxen, and asses. The guy was rich, really
rich.
Job was probably written after the flood,
but before the Law was given in the days of
Moses.
Before the flood they lived to be over 900.
After the flood they lived to be 400.
You see Job lived long enough to have 10 kids
all grown, out of the house, they all died,
then afterwards ...
...he had 10 more kids and he saw his great,
great, grandchildren - from his second family.
So you have to be living a long time to accomplish
those things.
Those are the reasons why most people think
the Book of Job was written after the Flood.
That would have been during the time when
they were still living to be pretty old.
One day the messenger came to Job and said,
“I have some bad news. The oxen and asses
were stolen. ...
And your servants got killed, and the sheep
got burned up, and the camels got stolen too.”
This was a literal - stock market crash. Get
it ... stock? Another messenger came and said,
“Job, your kids all died. All 10 of your kids
are dead.” Job is having a bad day.
Then Job said, (Job 1:21) “The Lord gave and
the Lord hath taken away, blessed be the name
of the Lord.”
Man, what kind of guy is this anyway? Hey,
do you do that when bad things happen to you?
Then Satan gave him boils from the top of
his head to the bottom of his feet.
A boil is like the world’s worst pimple. Job
was covered in them, and his wife turned against
him too.
You know man can handle just about any tragedy
in life, but that’s the toughest one right
there.
There is a verse you probably never heard
preached on ever.
Ephesians, chapter 5, says, “husbands love
your wives, and wives submit yourselves to
your husband.”
You have probably heard that preached on.
I bet you had never heard this part.
The wife should see that she reverences her
husband; yes, treat him like a God.
Offer him “burnt sacrifices” three times a
day.
Chapter 2, verse 10, Job says, “You speak
like one of the foolish women; ...
can’t we receive good at the hand of God and
not evil?”
Then Job’s four friends came to visit him.
One of those guys was the shortest man mentioned
in the Bible, Bildad the Shuhite.
“Shuhite” (pronounced: shoe-height); that is pretty
short.
These four friends came and talked to Job
for 35 chapters.
Most of the book of Job is these guys explaining
to Job, why everything went wrong.
They had to be Baptists, the way I got it
figured.
They said, “Job you must have sinned, I mean”
Eliphaz said, “Who ever perished being innocent?”
“Job, the reason why bad things happened to
you is because you sinned.”
Now folks, that is the wisdom of the world,
that is not true.
If something bad happens to somebody, you
don’t know why it happened.
You should love them and pray for them, encourage
them, and shut up.
Don’t go to the hospital when they get their
gall stones out and say, ...
“Hey brother, these are not gall stones these
are tithes and offerings, ...
God’s getting them out of you one way or another.”
Don’t do that, okay?
Let God take care of why everything went wrong,
he can handle them just fine, okay.
So Job is sitting there scrapping the pus
out of the boils, by the grave of his ten
dead kids thinking ...
“God, will you please answer me, why did this
happen to me?”
Folks, you don’t have to live on this planet
very long before you will be asking that question.
God why did you do this to me? I don’t want
to drag skeletons out of anybody’s closet
okay?
Maybe you have had tragedy in your life.
I know a little bit about what I am talking
about, I have three kids here and three kids
in Heaven already.
Yes tragedy comes to good people trying to
do right.
It happens, alright, but if something bad
happens what is your response?
Job said I wish the Lord would answer me,
you see he did not know about Romans 8:28.
God said, “We know that all things work together
for good ...
to them that love the God to them that are
the called according to his purpose.”
This verse does not say everything that happens
is good; it doesn’t say that.
It says it will work together for good. I’ll
show you.
Has anybody ever been hungry? Have you been
hungry before?
Suppose you come to my house and you knock
on the door,
“Hey, Hovind, I am hungry.” I’ll say, “Come
on in.” And I’ll give you a cup of flour,
...
That doesn’t sound too good. I’ve got it - how
about a spoon of salt.
Now you may say, “No, that isn’t going to
help.”
I’ve got it, how about a spoon full of baking
soda. Oh that will wake you up in the morning.
You are probably getting pretty dry by now,
so let’s pour down a half cup of Crisco.
And chase it down with a cup of butter milk.
You would say, “Brother Hovind that would
taste terrible.”
How about if we mix them all together and
make biscuits?
You know the individual ingredients for biscuits
taste lousy, but they work together for biscuits.
Do you know that everything that happens to
you may not be good ...
but it will work together for good if you
love God and are called according to his purpose.
You see the Christian life is so simple. Keep
your heart right with God; that’s it.
That will be tough to do because the heart
is deceitful above all things and desperately
wicked.
Job is sitting there scraping the pus out
of the boils saying, “God, will you please
answer me.”
And in chapter 38, the Lord answered Job out
of a whirlwind.
You know if a tornado starts talking to me,
I am going to pay attention.
The Lord said, “Who is this that darkeneth
council by words without knowledge?”
Hey Job, your four friends did not know what
they were talking about!
And by the way be very careful about getting
any Bible doctrine from the book of Job.
It is true that the guy said it, but what
they said was not true.
The cults are very good at picking out a verse
here; you better read the whole chapter okay.
I believe the Bible is the word of God, but
the Bible contains some lies.
It accurately records the lies of men. It
is true that they said it, but what they said
was not true.
That is the case with these four guys.
God said (Job 38:3), “Gird up now thy loins
like a man; for I will demand of thee, and
answer thou me.”
“Where was thou when I laid the foundations
of the earth?”
I read that 36 years ago as a brand new Christian
and I thought what a dumb question,
“God, why would you ask Job where he was when
you laid the foundations of the earth?”
I said, God, “He wasn’t there you knew that
and he knows that, so why are you asking such
a question?”
How many of you were here when God built the
earth?
Was anybody here when God made the earth?
Only a couple of Mormons, okay, you’re in
your second existence, I understand.
No, you were not here when God built the earth.
Kids this is going to be complicated so listen
carefully, okay.
Since you were not here when God made the
earth, that means that God is older than you
are.
How many can figure this out with no help
at all?
Did it ever occur to you that God is also
smarter than you are?
Did it ever occur to you that God is stronger
than you are?
Did it ever occur to you that God is richer
than you are?
You say, “Brother Hovind everybody is richer
than I are,” Okay, well God certainly is too.
Hey try this one, I said this one a thousand
times and I have never understood it once.
But I say it a lot and I think about it a
lot until my brain hurts:
Did it ever occur to you that nothing ever
occurred to God?
He has already thought of everything. He even
knows everything that you ever thought about.
The Bible says He understands the imaginations
of the thoughts, that is a fascinating verse.
He not only knows your thoughts, he knows
the imaginations of the thoughts.
You see you can not only think about things
but you can actually ...
think about - what you are thinking about.
Think about that.
The brain is amazing. The Bible says God knows
the thoughts of man.
And by the way it says in Luke, Jesus knowing
their thoughts ....
That is one of many verses that prove that
Jesus is God almighty in the flesh.
God knows your thoughts and loves you anyway.
Wow! Praise God for His mercy, right?
Job 38:4, God says, “Declare, if thou hast
understanding, who hast laid the measures
thereof, if thou knowest?”
Job doesn’t answer. In fact, Job is not answering
any of God’s questions.
God says (Job 38:16), “Hast thou entered into
the springs of the sea?”
Scientists didn’t even know that there were
springs in the sea until 1977.
Science is very slowly catching up with a
few parts of the Bible.
God said, “Where is the way where light dwelleth?”
Now that is fascinating; I taught Physics.
Did you know light does not stay in a place
it is in a way. It is always moving.
Then it says, and for darkness where is the
place thereof?
You know the speed of light, 186,282.4 miles
per second (300,000 km each second).
Do you know the speed of dark is? Zero.
Darkness cannot move. Now think about it,
we are the children of light.
We are suppose to be on the move, you know,
to get something done for God.
People say, well it is getting dark, the world’s
so bad, well turn on your light.
The reasons is it is dark is because of you.
You are the light, turn it on.
The Bible says the gates of hell shall not
prevail.
Gates do not attack you; you attack them.
Let’s go man, do something for God.
Verse 24, “By what way is the light parted,
which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?”
Now wait, is God telling Job that the light
causes the wind? He sure is.
You can ask any weather man that is exactly
correct sunlight causeth the wind patterns.
The ground heats up and it expands the air.
We have wind on Earth because of the light,
just like God said 4,000 years ago.
God said (Job 38:35), “Canst thou send lightnings?”
Boy it is a good thing that I can’t.
How many of you can think of somebody that
is lucky to be a live because you can not
send the lightnings.
I can think of several. God said, “Canst thou
send lightnings that they may go and say unto
thee, here we are?”
Now wait, is God telling Job that electricity
can be used to send a message?
That would be like a radio, a cell phone,
a microwave, or a T.V.
Electricity sends a message two different
ways.
First is, the electricity through the wire,
and also through the electromagnetic force,
Those are the radio waves coming off from
it. God told Job that 4,000 years ago.
Marconi and other scientists only discovered
it in the last hundred years or so.
God asked Job 84 questions. Job never answered
even one of them.
These are the kind of questions that don’t
need an answer.
The questions were designed to change the
person’s attitude.
These are the same kind of questions you dads
have to ask your kids.
You see I have three kids. I know what I am
talking about.
Kids get to a certain age and they start to
think that they should make the rules around
the house.
The kid comes in one day and says, “Hey dad
listen, I believe that I should be allowed
to stay out ...
until 4:00 in the morning with my friends;
after all I am 10 now.”
Dad says, “Hold on now just a minute kid,
you’d like to know why you can’t stay out
to 4:00 in the morning.”
“Well son, let me ask you a couple of questions:
who pays the electric bill around this house?”
Who’s paying for the house? Who paid for the
clothes you are wearing, son?
Who paid for the bed you slept on last night?
Who pays for the food that you eat and eat
and eat and eat and eat and eat?
Who paid for the hot water and soap that you
took a shower with - about a month ago?
Let’s just get it straight son, the Bible
is very clear, “He who payeth the bills maketh
the rules.”
The Book of “Second Opinions,” chapter 4,
verse 7. You see son, me dad, you kid.
And if you are going to sleep under my roof
and eat my food, ...
You are going to do it my way and if you want
to do it your way then go ...
get your own roof to sleep under and do it
your way. That is the golden rule, son.
“He that hath the gold maketh the rules.”
Who do you think you are kid? Where were you
when we brought this property and cleared
this land? ...
and drove off the Grizzly Bears, and marched
up hill to school 40 miles in the snow bare
foot both ways.
How many of you got the same speech growing
up? You know what I am talking about.
Let’s get it straight son, me dad, you kid.
I think that is what God is doing to Job.
God asked Job 84 questions.
Job never answered one, but Job got an attitude
adjustment.
You see Job had the same problem that most
of us have.
He did not have a good appreciation for who
God was.
Come to chapter 40. God said behold now “behemoth,”
what on Earth is a: behemoth.
What ever it was, Job could behold it, because
God never tells you to do something that you
can not do.
You see God would not say, “Behold now behemoth”
if he could not behold now behemoth.
That is deep theology, I know, but think it
through.
Some reference bibles say behemoth is probably
the elephant or Hippopotamus.
That is ludicrous. No. I believe that the
behemoth is a long necked dinosaur.
There are 13 different long neck dinosaurs:
Brachiosaurus, or the Apatosaurus, Seatasaurus
(he’s got the big seat), ...
There’s the Blondasaur, and you have to talk
to her kind of slowly.
I think the Behemoth is the Brachiosaurus.
It says that it eats grass as ox.
Some people say, “Hey, my Bible says elephants,”
and elephants eat grass.
Bunny Rabbits eat grass too; a lot of animals
eat grass.
Look at the next verse, his strength is in
his loins.
His force in the navel of his belly, the biggest
part on him is his belly.
They say elephants have a big belly. Yes,
I know.
Hippopotamus have a big belly. Brachiosaurus
have a big belly.
He has a big belly. So does he? He is just
sick, sick, who would pose for that?
He moveth his tail like a cedar. Hold on a
minute, his tail is like a cedar tree.
Have you ever seen an elephant’s tail? Would
that remind you of a cedar tree?
Or a Hippo tail? Not like a cedar tree.
Now a Brachiosaurus tail maybe that would
be a little more like cedar tree than the
rest of them.
Before they put those foot notes at the bottom
of the Bible, ...
I think they should be required to read the
passage at least once, and then comment on
it okay.
By the way, you preachers, if you are going
to preach - at least read it once before you
preach on it.
Next verse (Job 40:18) says, “His bones are
as strong pieces as brass; his bones are like
bars of iron.”
He has big heavy duty bones, and they did.
This is a real dinosaur toe bone that I got
in my museum in Pensacola.
It is one of the knuckle bones from a Brachiosaurus.
This is going to be complicated so listen
carefully.
The reason why he had such big toe bones is
because he had big toes.
How many can figure it out with no help? Four,
Five, Six.
The reason he had those big toes is because
he had a big foot.
There’s a kid taking a bath in a Brachiosaurus
foot print.
The picture is right here in the book on the
steps.
The reason why he had that big foot is because
he had a big leg to hold up.
His front leg is 20 feet tall.
The biggest dinosaur found so far is 60 feet
to the top of its head. It was found in Oklahoma.
They say it is going to take them 20 years
to dig all the bones out of the ground.
It is a government project. They say when
it was alive it probably weighed a hundred
tons.
One hundred tons is equal to 14 school buses
put together.
That means if he was to come by and step on
you, you would be “deeply impressed” by him.
You would be road pizza. By the way speaking
of government projects, I have to share with
you my new invention.
It will make me the richest man on Planet
Earth.
I am going to save so much money for the highway
department, ...
construction crew, utilities companies, and
the military too.
All I want is 10% of the savings. I’ll be
the richest man on Planet Earth.
I have invented a shovel that will stand up
by itself.
You won’t need to pay these guys to lean on
it any more. Ah, thank you, thank you.
Next verse says (Job 40:19), “He is the chief
of the ways of God.”
He’s the chief, that’s the Hebrew word ‘re’-shiyth.’
He is chief, he’s the principle; he’s the
biggest animal God ever made.
Well that would not be the elephant or the
hippopotamus. That would be the Brachiosaurus.
And that kind of fits the pattern for the
way the Devil works.
Whenever God makes things, the Devil tries
to destroy them.
God makes beautiful things, and Satan always
tries to destroy them.
Hey question, “How big is your God?” Do you
ever think about that?
When you stop and pray and you say “Heavenly
Father,” do you have any idea who you are
talking to!?
Have you ever just stopped and think about
that? Who are you about to talk to?
I mean, you sit down for lunch and you are
going to pray,
“Okay Lord, bless the bunch, as they crunch
the lunch. Amen.”
We expect God to come like a puppy dog when
we call, don’t we?
“Okay God, I have time for you now, pay attention,
here are my prayers.”
“Give me this, give me this, give me this,
give me this, and give me this - and give
it quick.”
That is about what it boils down to, isn’t
it?
Have you ever stopped and really thought who
you are talking to?
How big is your God? Hey, is your God big
enough to tell you what to do?
And do you simply do it - without question?
For instance, does God tell you what kind
of clothes to wear?
I Timothy 2:9, it says that the women should
dress modestly.
You see my daddy always said, “If you’re not
in business, then don’t advertise.”
Does God tell you how to cut your hair?
I Corinthians 11:14 says it’s a shame for
man to have long hair.
When I got saved I was a life guard, nice
suntan, long blonde hair.
I read that and I said oh wow, I need to go
cut it. It is just a no brainer.
God, you’re not happy? Then, yes sir. It is
absolutely a no brainer.
How big is your God? Who is God of your life
anyways?
If he is really God, then you read the Book
and you do what he says, and that’s the end
of the story.
Hey, does God tell you what kind of speech
to have?
Ephesians 4:29 says, “Let no corrupt communication
proceed out of your mouth.”
Is God happy with everything that is coming
out of your mouth?
(Luke 6:45) “Out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.”
That is a good verse to quote to somebody
when you hear them cuss by the way.
Does God control what you watch on T.V?
Psalm 101 says I will set no wicked thing
before mine eyes.
Have you put wicked things in front of your
eyes?
Suppose you made a rule, just suppose you
made a rule around your house.
If you hear a cuss word on T.V., then you
are going to shut it off for 2 hours.
If you see someone immodestly dressed on TV,
you are going to shut it off for 2 hours.
If you see someone drinking alcohol you are
going to shut it off for 2 hours.
What if you just make those three simple rules
at your house?
How much T.V. would you watch? None.
So you might as well sell it and give those
30 bucks a month for the cable bill to a missionary.
And we could then win the whole world to Christ
couldn’t we?
Does God tell you what kind of music to listen
to?
Ephesians 5:19, “Speak to yourselves in Psalm,
Hymns and spiritual songs ...
singing melody in your heart to the Lord.”
Is God happy with your music?
You see God loves music. God invented music.
But Satan has invented some ungodly music
you shouldn’t listen to.
Someone asked me one time Hovind, do you know
what you get ...
when you get when you play country music backwards?
I said, “No.”
You get your wife back, you get your dog back,
your pickup truck back, and you get out of
jail.
God created them male and female.
Did you know that God invented marriage and
the family and sex.
He invented the whole thing, and he wants
it to be wonderful?
So He put some rules down; boys don’t touch
the girls until you are married to them.
Now if you don’t want to touch them then stay
away from me. I saw your kind at San Francisco.
God put the rules down. He put the rules down,
because he wants the best for you.
He said (Proverbs 6:26), “The adulteress will
hunt for the precious life.”
God doesn’t want you to be hunting for a precious
life.
He wants you to have a precious life.
Do you know why these Hollywood folks have
to get married again every six months?
Brittney Spears, 55 hours; Jennifer Lopez,
7 months;
Brandy Norwood, less then 2 years, less than
6 months; Zsa Zsa Gabor married for 1 day.
Do you know why they got to get married again
after 6 months?
They are hunting for the precious life. They
don’t have it.
Now listen carefully; don’t pay any attention
to Hollywood.
They don’t have a clue, they don’t have a
clue in the world how to have a precious life.
If you want to have a precious life then you
keep yourself pure ...
until you walk down that aisle and the preacher
says wilt thou, and you wilt.
Whatever they do, then you stay faithful to
that one for the rest of your life.
That is the Precious the life. Don’t believe
Hollywood for a second.
They don’t have a clue how best to live. God
created the living creatures, every living
creature, ...
as it says in Genesis 1:21. God made the dinosaurs.
He made them, but Satan said,
“You know, there has to be some way that I
can use dinosaurs against God.”
But he couldn’t fool Adam; not with dinosaurs.
Adam named the dinosaurs.
Can you imagine the Devil walking up to Adam
and saying,
“Hey Adam did you know that dinosaurs lived
millions of years ago?”
Adam would say, “Are you stupid?” There’s
one in the backyard right there eating on
the cherry tree!
What do you mean “million of years ago?”
The Devil could not fool Noah, he fed them
everyday during the year of the Flood.
But for the next 4,000 years the dinosaurs
became more rare.
They were dying off or being killed off or
whatever, as some of the reasons they died
off.
By 1809, they were just nearly extinct and
somebody found the bones and put one together.
In 1809, the first dinosaur that we know of
was put together for a museum.
Satan was there that day and said, “Wow, here
is my chance.”
These critters have always lived with man,
I know that and God knows that.
But these people don’t know that. So the Devil
said, ...
“I think I am going to tell everybody that
they lived million of years ago.”
And if they believe it will make them doubt
the Bible. And boy, has that strategy worked
good.
You know, for the last 200 years kids have
gone to kindergarten and they get a book like
this,
Book title: “I can read about dinosaurs.”
Would anybody like to take a wild guess what
is the first sentence in the book says?
“Millions of years ago!” How many kids are
being taught that in your town?
At your expense you are paying for the destruction
of the next generation.
Now maybe that does not bother you, but it
bothers me.
And if you think that I leave my gorgeous
wife and travel all over the world -
I have been gone over 200 days per year, for
years now.
I flew 215 times last year, spoke over 900
times.
If you think I leave my gorgeous wife and
4 grandkids - because I like being gone, you
are mistaken.
I would much rather be home, but there is
a war going on!
Somebody has got to warn the troops, “Hello,
to arms! Pick up your guns, let’s go!”
There are kids by the billions being brainwashed
on this planet, and Satan is using dinosaurs
to do it.
Nearly all the books say “millions of years
ago” and then we have some Christians ...
that totally ignore the subject because they
do not have an answer.
Well (II Timothy 2:15), “Study to show thyself
approved unto God...”
Get the answer and go share it with somebody.
“Millions of years ago,” the book says.
I go to museums all the time; it just makes
my blood boil.
You see hundred and hundred of kids coming
past these incredible displays beautiful dinosaur
skeletons.
And guess what the sign says at the bottom?
“Million of years ago.”
Christians don’t seem to understand this,
the museums and science centers - that is
their church.
They are preaching their gospel just like
you are trying to preach your Gospel.
And they are using your tax dollars to preach
their gospel.
That’s how it happens, “Millions of years
ago....”
The Bible says the Behemoth lieth under the
shady trees in the covert and reed and swamp
The word “fenz” is an Old English word meaning:
the swamp.
Do you know that the biggest swamp in the
world is right in the middle of Africa?
It is called the Likawala Swamp. That swamp
is huge.
Most Americans don’t appreciate the size of
Africa.
Here is what Africa looks like next to the
entire United States. Africa is gigantic.
That swamp is the same size of the state of
Florida, 55,000 square miles (140,000 square km).
That swamp is huge. Did you know that this
huge swamp is 80% unexplored - even today?
In 1885, Congo in Africa was taken over by
Belgium; it was called the Belgian Congo for
many years.
In 1960 the Communists liberated them. You
know how the Communist liberate countries?
They kill everybody. “Okay, you’re free now.”
There were reports in that swamp from the
1700’s, when the missionaries first went in
there
And they said that there are dinosaurs still
living in that swamp! Dinosaurs still alive?
In 1910, New York Herald ran an article about
dinosaurs still living in Africa’s swamps.
Here’s in the Saturday Evening Post in 1948,
“There Could be Dinosaurs” still alive in
Africa.
A big game hunter named Mr. Gobler returned
from a trip from Angola.
He announced to the Cape Town newspaper, the
Cape Argus, that there was ...
“an animal of large dimensions, the description
of which could only fit a dinosaur.”
The natives there call it the: Chipekwe. Over
in the Central Africa Republic, they call
it: Ngururi.
Roy Mackal went there in 1980, on an expedition;
he spent a quarter million dollars.
And he went back the next year and he went
to that swamp.
And he said that swamp is the most miserable
swamp on planet earth.
The mosquitoes landed on them at the rate
of a thousand per hour, ...
constantly - like swarms of dust around you,
blood thirsty mosquitoes.
95 degrees F (35 C), and 95% humidity all
the time.
As they traveled around the swamp the natives
talked about this animal called: Mahomba.
He said what’s that and he showed them a crocodile.
And they said, “Yes, that is Mahomba,” and
he said how big does it get?
And they paced off on the sandbar - 50 feet
long (15 m).
Now if you’re a pygmy 4’ 4” (1.3 m), a fifty
foot crocodile looks really big to you!
Everybody says that, “No, crocodiles don’t
get past about 17 feet (5.2 m) long.”
I don’t think that is correct. Earlier in
the summer of 2005, they killed a 24” crocodile
in that same swamp.
Of course, the natives will say, “You should
see the big ones!”
The natives also talk about another animal
that they call: Mokele-Mbembe.
Mokele-Mbembe? ...What on earth is that?
If you show them a picture of an Apatosaurus,
they will say, “Yes, that is it, mokele-Mbembe.”
The natives claim that these animals live
under water.
They are very rare, of course they are deep
in that swamp in central Africa.
Nobody goes out at night anyways. There are
no lights over there at night.
The animals are mostly seen early in the morning
or late in the evening ...
when they come out, and their favorite plant
is the Molombo plant.
There is Dr. Mackal holding the Molombo plant.
Dr. Mackel was a University of Chicago Microbiology
professor.
He went over there and studied all of this
carefully.
He came back and wrote a book, called, “A
Living Dinosaur”
He believes in Evolution, but his book is
great about the evidence ...
for dinosaurs still living in an African swamp.
They found foot prints of the creatures.
A missionary friend of mine was there for
43 years as a missionary, Eugene Thomas.
He is Ohio now. Here is his phone number,
call him up. He was there for 43 years.
He said “I have two pygmies in my church that
killed one and ate it.” Dinosaurs.
There have been reports of these creatures
in that swamp for a long time.
One Belgian Congo biologist went up river
500 miles from his house said he saw one.
But his camera malfunctioned because of the
high heat and humidity.
There have been many reports of dinosaurs
in that swamp; you can study this for yourself.
One group went there and they said, the creature
was dark brown in color, the skin slick and
smooth.
A long neck and a small head; they heard it,
they saw it, it was making a roaring noise.
And the government officials even saw it.
There was an article in the Boston Herald
newspaper about a group going over to look
for the dinosaur.
A dinosaur that is still alive in the huge
and mostly unexplored Congo Swamp.
All you have to do is type in “Crypto zoology,”
Crypto means hidden, and zoology means animals.
Crypto zoology - you will find all kinds of
stuff about dinosaurs still living.
The natives claim these animals live in caves
along the side of the river.
William Gibbons has been there 4 times now
to the Congo Swamp.
He and I wrote this book together for kids,
“Claws, Jaws and Dinosaurs”
William Gibbons wrote me a letter, “According
to our guide, Pierre Sima, ...
we were the first white men to actually penetrate
the forest and swamps bordering the Boumba
River.”
“Our informants almost all of them Baka Pygmies,
with the exception of an elderly Cameroonian
Muslim,
are perfectly familiar with all the known
and unknown animals of the swamp. ...
While they do not regard the Le’Kela-bembe,
that’s a different language, as being an unusual
animal,
they do fear the creature because of its ferocity,
in attacking hippos, Elephants and crocodiles.
The animal appears to be completely intolerant
of any other large creature that shares the
river ...
and controls the large stretches of the river,
particularly where its food supply is present.”
“The two suspected dinosaurians Mokele-Mbembe
and N’Goubou, are encountered on a regular
basis.
I questioned an older Baka couple that work
on Pierre’s plantation.
Like most pygmies they are very familiar with
the flora and fauna of the region.
I presented them with our book of known African
animals and dinosaur illustrations.
About 98% of the dinosaur illustrations were
rejected - except for two.
Which they picked out without hesitation that
they had observed.
One was a sauraupod dinosaur and the other
was a Triceratops.”
Now why would people in the middle of the
swamp in Africa say, “Oh yeah, we’ve seen
that one?”
Missionary Cal Bombay was there for years
in Kenya.
He said he and his wife had seen one of these
creatures.
But the plates on the back were bigger; more
like a Stegosaurus.
Down in South America they have the Amazon
Jungle which is huge.
In 1907 the British army sent Colonel P.H.
Fawcett to mark the boundary between Brazil
and Peru.
He was an officer in the royal engineers and
was known as a meticulous recorder of facts.
In the Beni Swamps he said he saw what he
believed to be a Diplodocus.
The natives and the tribes around there said,
“Oh yeah, that animal still lives out here
in the swamp.”
Colonel Fawcett’s son made sketches of the
foot prints.
In 1883, Scientific American ran this article,
before they got committed to Evolution.
An article like this would never make it in
Scientific American today.
Because now they are dedicated to preserving
the evolutionary theory.
But they said that “The Brazilian minister
at La Paz, Bolivia, had remitted to ...
the minister of Foreign Affairs in Rio, photographs
of drawings of an extraordinary ...
saurian (dinosaur) killed on the Beni after
receiving 36 shots fired at it. ...
By the order of the president the dried body
had been preserved and was sent to La Paz.”
It was 12 meters long, i.e. 39 feet from snout
to point.
It had scale amour, the neck long, and its
belly large, almost dragging the ground.
Professor Gilveti examined the beast and said
it was a member of a lost species.
The Indians in that region make small earthen
vessels the same shape.
They are probably copied from nature. Dinosaurs?
A missionary named Vaughn Goff called me three
days ago, because I was driving up here to
Indiana.
He said the natives in his area talk about
a lizard that is 30 feet long (9 m), and 5
feet tall.
It makes a thundering noise to startle its
prey.
The native Waiwai Indians call it “urufere”
and they are terrified of this creature.
Email him if you want to talk about dinosaurs
still in the swamp down there.
Here’s a giant snake that was killed several
years ago.
It is a 35 foot snake (10.7 m); it had eaten
a man who fell asleep on the job.
It is a good idea to stay awake on the job,
fellas.
This snake was reported in Indonesia as being
49 feet long (15 m). I don’t know if it is
true or not.
People might have exaggerated, but that’s
the report of a giant snake down there.
Colonel Percy Fawcett said he killed a 62
foot (19 m) Anaconda Snake and the natives
were terrified.
They said, “Colonel, if there is one, there
is going to be another one!”
The officials at the Brazil Columbia boundary
in 1933 killed a 98 foot (30 m) snake, 2 feet
in diameter.
It weighed 2 tons. The cook from a hotel in
the Amazon said they once saw a 100 foot (30.5
m) snake.
The military hunted it down after it killed
and eaten 2 soldiers. The head was 5 feet
(1.5 m) long.
Reuters News Service reported a 130 foot (39.6
m) snake back in 1997.
And here, this thing floated down the Amazon
River. Nobody poked it to see if it was alive.
They reported it to be nearly 150 feet (46
m) long. The Amazon River is huge.
A former student of mine, a missionary, said
the Amazon River halfway up is 9 miles (14.5
km) wide.
The Amazon is a long and wide river!
There is a lake in Scotland called Lock Ness.
Has anybody ever heard of Lock Ness?
Lock Ness is a huge lake 24 miles long (39
km), over a mile (2 km) wide, and up to 900
feet (275 m) deep.
It is big enough that everybody on Planet
Earth could go drown in it at the same time.
It would hold the entire population of the
whole world. 6 billion people would fit into
that lake.
It’s huge. In 1933, a road bed was cut into
the side of the mountain.
Before 1933 if you wanted to see the lake
you had to climb over the mountain.
Or go up the river 7 miles (11 km) in your
boat. So not many people went there; it is
sparsely populated.
In 1933, when the road was put in there, had
52 separate sightings of the Lock Ness Monster.
This author said there were 9,000 sightings
by the 1960’s, when this book was written.
Today there are over 11,000 reported sightings
of the Lock ness Monster. 11,000!
Of course some are fake and some are frauds.
I wouldn’t trust some newspapers, where they
have lots of weird stuff in there.
Sir Peter Scott is a member of the Parliament.
He said he saw it. He believes it is a Plesiosaur.
Almost everybody that sees it says it is this
animal right here, a Plesiosaurus.
Long neck, four big flippers. One guy wrote
a book, and he said ...
“Some people think Nessie is a Plesiosaur.
But there is one thing wrong with this theory.
...
Plesiosaurs are believed to have become extinct
70 million years ago.”
Oh, is that what is wrong with the theory?
They “believe” in evolution.
I think this evolution theory has to be the
biggest hindrance to scientific research that
has ever been.
You should look at the facts; forget your
theories.
Look at the facts first and then come up with
your conclusions.
A man named Arthur Grant nearly ran into Nessie
with his motorcycle one night.
He said, “I had a splendid view of the object.
In fact I almost struck it with my motorcycle!
It had a long neck, and large oval shaped
eyes, on top of a small head.
The tail would be 5 to 6 feet (1.5 - 2 m)
long.” As he describes it 15 to 20 feet long
(4.6 - 6 m) altogether.
He said he knows some things about natural
history. He was a veterinarian student.
He said, “I have never seen anything like
it in my life!”
Here is the sketch of what he drew of what
he nearly ran over on his motorcycle.
It looks like a 20 foot long Plesiosaur.
Alexander Campbell was the game warden for
Lock Ness for 47 years.
He said he saw it 18 times. There’s the sketch
that he drew of it.
Many people have tried to catch the Lock Ness
Monster.
They have used everything that you can imagine
for bait and some things that you can not
imagine.
So far nobody has caught it. The lake is huge
but there has been many, many sketches drawn.
One family said they saw it with a sheep in
its mouth.
One guy got a picture of it with its hump
sticking out of the water; the neck is over
on the far right.
Reader’s Digest, (they crop everything down)
they cut the neck off when they published
their picture.
McCloud said he watched for 9 minutes through
his binoculars he made four sketches of it
of what he saw.
McCloud said, “I think the monster looks like
this.”
All you have to do is watch T.V. programs
where they talk about the Lock Ness Monster.
There are thousands of people that will go
on record and say, “I have seen it.”
World Book Encyclopedia paid to have a submarine
taken over there from South Carolina.
The guy said the water is so black that he
couldn’t even see the front of his own boat.
Lock Ness is like a giant mud puddle. You
go down just a few feet/meters and the visibility
is zero.
You can’t see a thing. The Japanese put 24
boats and went down all the way in the lake
And they reported that they had scanned the
entire bottom with sonar.
They said that this is a deep lake and it
is wrinkled up like a raisin.
And there are caves going off to the sides,
probably with air chambers.
The creature can go inside the mountain, and
breathe and live in there.
One guy got a picture of a diamond shaped
flipper under water.
Again, they thought it was a Plesiosaur. Reader’s
Digest published this picture back in 1978.
The picture is right there on the floor showing
Nessie with its mouth open.
We can go all day long about Lock ness Monsters.
They said this 1933 picture was a fake, and
it probably was, but I don’t know.
It is interesting that they waited until the
last guy that was involved died to then announce
it was a fake.
Now how do you check out the truth? There
are other odd lakes besides Lock Ness.
There’s Loch Lochy. There’s Loch Morar. There
are many other lakes that are reporting creatures.
There’s one called Morgawr, the Cornish sea
serpent, near England.
The English Channel has many reported sightings
of a creature like this.
In 1749, in England, a creature was caught.
Resembling to some degree an alligator.
But it had two large fins, the body was covered
with impenetrate scales, and 5 rows of teeth.
In 1934 this thing washed up on the beach
in Normandy, France.
There’s a guy there looking at it to show
you the scale.
A couple of scientists reported that this
creature swam past their boat in Brazil in
1905.
They reported the whole thing in a scientific
journal at the time.
The creature had a dorsal fin was 6 feet high,
2 feet high, and a small head on a neck of
7 or 8 feet long.
Two experienced British naturalists reported
the thing. Again we can go all day on reported
sightings.
This thing in 1977, a Japanese fishing boat
pulled this up in their net.
It was 32 feet (10 m) long, 4000 pounds (1800
kg). They said what on earth is that?
The captain said I don’t know but it stinks.
When they set it down on the deck it broke
in half.
They made a bunch of sketches and took five
pictures, and then they shoved it over board.
A special stamp was made for Japanese mail
in 1977.
Some people argue that it may have been a
Basking Shark.
And I agree, it might have been a basking
shark.
But the fishermen on board said, “We know
what a basking shark is, and we don’t that
is it.”
Basking Sharks tend to rot away leaving the
head part behind. That’s a basking shark right
there.
It could have been a Basking Shark it doesn’t
matter to me. They say the protein is 96%
similar.
Yes I know, but no one has ever seen Plesiosaur
protein, to know what it is suppose to look
like.
Humans and apes are similar but have many
differences also.
There are a lot of arguments about that - it
doesn’t matter to me.
But some people get all bent out of shape
for me even mentioning the Japanese catch
of 1977.
Russians report a creature in a lake up there
called the mystery of the lake.
It looks like a dinosaur washed up on the
beach in Russia in 1994. It was 39 feet long
(12 m).
This apparently is a doctored photo of a shark.
Somebody with Photoshop made it look like
a Plesiosaur but actually it is just a doctored
photo.
So be careful there are plenty of frauds out
there, no question.
But the existence of a fraud or a counterfeit
does not disprove the existence of the original.
In 2004, a bunch of people over in Papua,
New Guinea reported a creature like a dinosaur.
10 feet tall with a tail like an alligator
and a head like a dog.
It was right on the island in the city of
Kokopo. One lady said she saw it and she ran
for her life.
She saw a 3 meter tall creature with a head
like a dog and a tail like a crocodile.
You can read all about it on the Internet
about this creature seen just in 2004.
Japan also reports on having some of these
creatures.
The north island of Hokkaido reports them
and also the main south island of Japan.
They call it “Issie” in Lake Ikeda.
In China there’s reported one called USO,
Unidentified Swimming Object.
Norway has several reported sightings, as
do Swedish lakes, in a couple of Swedish lakes
up there.
They call it, “Storsjoodjuret” in Lake Storjon.
In Norway they got a creature that is very
similar to Lock Ness Monster.
Hundreds of people say they have seen it.
It is in the news occasionally, just like
Lock Ness.
Canada has reported sightings of these creatures,
Canadian lake monsters. Nessie’s Canadian
cousin.
There’s a lake in the town of Kelowna called
Lake Okanagan. It is a huge Lake, 80 miles
long (130 km).
I have been up there twice to speak in the
town of Kelowna. The natives call this creature
Ogopogo.
We sell a book on our table back there if
you want to get that: The Ogopogo.
It is very similar to the Lock ness Monster.
Thousands of folks claim that they have seen
that one.
This article says, “They were the latest among
thousands to see something strange ...
in this narrow 18 mile long (30 km) lake.
One guy swam the length of the lake.
He said the thing came up under him and it
scared him half to death.”
I have news articles like crazy about this.
She said, “I saw Ogopogo twice.”
I interview John Caruso. He and his family
were sleeping in their boat on the lake.
They were camping out on the lake on their
big boat and something bumped the bottom of
their boat.
It woke them all up early in the morning.
They went out and they saw two Ogopogos ...
swimming across the lake he went back and
grabbed his camera.
By the time he got it it was pretty far away,
but he gave me a copy of the video footage.
It was too far away to make out the details,
but he said, “Look, brother Hovind, I saw
Ogopogo!”
Many, many people will go on record and say
that they have seen it.
There is one in Cadboro Bay, British Columbia.
There’s a book about that if you want to read
more.
A baby Caddy was found inside of the stomach
of a Sperm Whale.
They say it has short, pointed, front flippers,
and it’s a long necked beast with a horse-like
head.
One guy caught a baby one with his dip net.
He drew a sketch of it before he released
it.
He didn’t know what it was, so he let it go.
I interviewed this guy for an hour. These
four guys were fishing in Canada.
A creature chased their boat off Cape Sable
Island, Nova Scotia when I was preaching up
there.
That happened in 1992, when I met him. He
said he was 67 when this happened.
He had been fishing out there since he was
5.
This 40-50 foot long (12-15 m) creature chased
their boat for 1-2 miles.
He said the neck was two feet thick and 8-9
feet long (2.5-3 m), it had a 9 inch (23 cm)
diameter eyes.
He said they were 6 miles south of Cape Sable
Island.
He said that he didn’t want to see it again.
That’s what he told me.
This thing washed up on the beach in Newfoundland,
Canada.
Sometimes big blobs wash up on shore. Sometimes
it is whale skin.
The whale dies, it gets mostly eaten, but
the layer of blubber gets washed up.
Sometimes it’s a Basking Shark. This thing
washed up in Parker Cove, Canada.
I talked to many folks who said they saw it.
A lot of people went and analyzed it.
I don’t think that it’s ever been positively
determined what it was.
It might have been a basking shark, no one
knows positively, but it’s gone now.
People cut pieces off it. The vertebrate do
tend to look like shark vertebrae instead
of any other kind.
It’s just interesting that stuff like this
washes up on the beach.
We sell a book called “Monster! Monster!,”
...
about North American lake monsters and sea
serpents.
And here is a good book by Lauren Coleman
who is a Crypto zoologist, but also an evolutionist.
I interviewed Jacques Boisvert for three hours.
He collects sightings of the Lake Memphremagog
creature, between Vermont and Quebec, Canada.
Hundreds of folks claim they have seen something
in this lake up there in Lake Memphremagog.
Creatures have been seen in the Potomac River.
There’s a book about the great New England
Sea Serpent.
There’s a island off of Connecticut and Rhode
Island called Block Island.
Many folks claim they seen creatures swimming
around out there. They call it the “Block
Ness Monster.”
One washed up in 1996. Another thing also
washed up in 2004.
It never was identified that I know of. I
interview people all the time about these
things.
Lake Erie’s apparently got one. “Erie’s Besse
matches Nessie,” they say.
It is 35 feet long (11 m) and they say it
has a snake-like head.
It’s in the newspaper once in a while about
Lake Erie’s Monster.
A dead baby creature was found on the beach
of Lake Erie.
A guy took it home and stuffed it, and mounted
it, he’s a taxidermist.
He said, “You tell me what it is, I don’t
know!” Dr. Baugh bought it and it is in his
museum in Texas.
It has never been identified. They are not
sure, it may be a fake.
Nobody knows. A very interesting little critter.
I interviewed the sheriff that was the first
guy that saw the Scituate Harbor Monster.
It was 50 feet long (15 m) when it washed
up on the beach
Everybody started cutting pieces off. By the
time they got the photo it was pretty butchered
up.
Some people argued it was a Basking Shark,
others said it was a real sea serpent.
The health department said, “We don’t care
it stinks so we are getting it out of here.”
They blew it up with dynamite.
California, in 1925, this critter washed up
on the beach.
That’s the head and there’s the neck - going
down to the right.
Just the neck was 20 feet long (6 m).
Everybody that examined it said it was a Plesiosaurus
- a 20 foot (6 m) neck!
One Atheist wrote me a letter and said, “Hovind
you’re so stupid, don’t you know that was
a whale?”
I said, “Now where exactly is the neck on
a whale?” It ought to be between the head
and the flippers.
He said, “It’s a rare form Bairds Beaked Whale.”
It’s pretty rare all right with a 20 foot
(6 m) neck.
The people who saw it said it was a Plesiosaurus.
Why is that so hard to believe?
You know why people resist explanations like
that? It goes against their evolutionary theory.
They like the Evolution theory because it
gives them freedom from God.
That’s why they like that theory.
We can spend all day on Crypto zoology stuff.
I have studied this for years.
I have interviewed a hundred people that have
claimed that they seen a living dinosaur.
New York, in 1969, the Harbor police chased
something much bigger than a whale up river.
They never did catch it. It could have been
a Zeuglodon or a Basilosaurus. I don’t know.
But the White River Monster in New Port, Arkansas
has been reported many times - up until 1973.
Apparently it disappeared.
In Arkansas the Senate passed a resolution.
It says it is unlawful to molest, kill or
trample the White River Monster.
Off the coast of Juniper, Florida, something
has been seen similar to a dinosaur ...
swimming in the ocean out there. You can read
the articles for yourself.
A lot of this stuff is on my web site www.drdino.com,
you can read all about this.
There’s a lake between New York and Vermont
called Lake Champlain.
Many people have claimed they have seen the
Lake Champlain Monster.
I interviewed Sandy who took this picture.
I said, “Sandy, do you think that you saw
a dinosaur?”
She said “No, I know I saw a dinosaur.” She
and her husband and her two kids watched it
for ten minutes.
58 people on the Ethan Allen thought they
saw a creature out in the lake.
I don’t know maybe they just ate too many
Twinkies.
The captain on board back in 1998 said,
“If you think what I saw was a fish it weighed
3000 to 5000 pounds (1300-2300 kg).”
The Bible talks about the dragons of the waters.
Isaiah 27:1) “He shall slay the dragon that
is in the sea.”
In Pensacola where I live, 5 teenagers went
scuba diving back in 1962.
One survived the trip. Here is what he said.
They were going out to the sunken ship in
the Pensacola Harbor called the Massachusetts.
“We were in an Air force rescue raft bound
for a sunken ship a few miles off the coast.
Midway out we were caught in a storm and dragged
out to sea. ...
When the storm cleared we were in a dense
fog. ...
We began to hear strange noises like a splashing
of a porpoise.
And a sickening odor like dead fish. The noise
got closer to the raft and I heard a loud
hissing sound.
Out in the fog we saw what looked like a long
pole about ten feet (3 m) high.
It was sticking up out of the water. On top
was a bulb-like structure.
It bent in the middle and went under. It appeared
several more times getting closer to the raft.
The silence was broken once again by something
out of the fog.
I can only describe it as a high pitch whine.
We panicked.
All five of us put on our fins and went into
the water. Keep together and try for the ship!”
I yelled.
After we got in the water we got split up
in the fog.
And from behind I could hear the screams of
my comrades one by one.
I got a closer look at the thing just before
my last friend went under. ...
The neck was about 12 feet long, brownish
green and smooth looking.
The head was like a sea turtle except more
elongated. The eyes were green with oval pupils.
I don’t know how long it was before I heard
a scream. It lasted maybe a half of minute.
Then I heard Warren call, “Hey help me! it’s
got Brad! I’ve got to get out of here!”
His voice was cut off abruptly by a short
cry.
“Brad, Warren! Hey, where is everybody?” I
yelled back at the top of my lungs.
Larry now swam with Eric and me. Warren and
Brad were no where in sight.
Right next to Eric that telephone pole-like
figure broke water,
I could see the long neck and two small eyes.
The mouth opened and it bent over. It dove
on top of Eric, dragging him under.
I screamed and I began to swim past the ship,
my insides were shaking uncontrollably.
He drew a sketch of the thing that killed
his friends.
He said, I finally made it to the top of the
ship and stayed there most of the night.
The next morning, I swam to the shore and
I was found by the rescue unit.
That’s the sketch that Brian McCleary drew
of what he saw that killed his four friends.
I was speaking in Fort Walton Beach, Florida,
one time.
Valerie Bill came to me and said, “Mr. Hovind
my step-son Larry Bill was one of those four
kids.
That story that you are telling is correct.”
But the Pensacola News Journal said, after
they interviewed him, they said,
“This is a beach town; people come here to
go swimming. ...
we are not going to report that your friends
got eaten by a dinosaur.
We are going to report that they drowned.”
So that’s what the Newspaper said, “four teenagers
drowned.”
In Panama City, Florida, there was something
similar that was seen there.
A youth director of a Lutheran Church told
me that his whole youth group was in the van.
And they saw a creature like that out in Panama
City Harbor.
There have been many reports of dinosaurs
still living. There could be some Pterodactyls
still alive.
The natives call these animals the “Kongamato”
if you’re in the Congo.
If in Kenya they call it “Batamzinga.”
Steve Romonde had previously on the Kenyan
Olympic Running Team.
He called me and said he was then going to
school in Louisiana.
He said, “Mr. Hovind, I saw those creatures.
We’ve got them in my village in Kenya.”
Their favorite food is decaying human flesh.
They dig up graves and eat the bodies.
Lots of folks have been talking about the
Kongamato (or “Batamzinga”).
We could cover dinosaurs still living for
hours. There have been lots of reports of
Pterodactyls still around.
I get calls about this from people all the
time about Pterodactyls being seen.
They’re seen in Papua, New Guinea, or over
in Indonesia, or in Venezuela.
I wish we had time to cover about all these
Pterodactyl sightings.
Dave Weitzel went there and said the natives
kept talking about this flying “Ropen.”
It glows in the dark over in Papua, New Guinea.
He lives on the island right there.
You say, “So what’s the point?” You say, “Brother
Hovind, who cares?”
I think there are dinosaurs still alive. And
I think that we have really been lied to about
the dinosaurs.
Now I don’t think there’s many, and it is
probable safe to go to the dorm.
Don’t get excited and say, “We are going to
get eaten by a dinosaur.”
No, its not that way, the hallway will be
clear tonight, I assure you.
The Indians got a legend called the “Thunderbird.”
They say that they saw a giant bird got hit
by lightening.
When they found it three days later the buzzards
had picked the bones clean.
But they said the wing span was 20 feet (7
m) and it had a bony bump on the back of its
head.
The Indian prayer sticks to this day, have
a head of a Pterodactyl on them.
Henry Ford put an Eagle on the tail light
it was a Thunderbird.
It should have been a Pterodactyl. You blew
it Henry.
A French explorer Jacques Marquette and Joliet
stopped where what is now the town of Saint
Louis.
They reported that they saw a big ugly bird
painted on a cliff on the other side in Alton,
Illinois.
The Indians said it was a Piasa bird. A great
chief killed him years ago.
They painted the picture up there for years
They finally put a big metal plaque.
There’s me there for scale; they later took
it down for fear that the plaque would fall
I guess they recently put the Piasa plaque
back up.
If you go to Alton, Illinois, you will see
the word Piasa: Piasa Diary Queen, etc. ...
it’s pretty famous over there, what ever the
Piasa bird was.
People say, “Brother Hovind, why do you speak
about dinosaurs?”
Well for one thing Satan is using them to
teach his gospel.
It’s time that Christians put up a defense.
Christians are confused where dinosaurs fit
in.
They are a great evangelistic tool. Kids will
gather around you like crazy when you get
dinosaurs.
“He’s the chief of ways of God.” well then
God ought to get the glory.
The Bible also talks about Leviathan.
That’s a whole another story, we will cover
the Leviathan another time.
So basically God made everything in six days.
Dinosaurs lived with man, people have killed
them.
There could be a few still alive, and Christians
need to quit worrying about dinosaurs.
And we should start using them for God’s glory.
We’ll cover more on that in the next session.
Hello, this is Kent Hovind. It is August 31st
1993.
I am sitting here at “The Antique Quest” in
Winchester, New Hampshire, with Sandy Mansi.
It’s good to see you again Sandy. I saw you
back in 1992; and Sandy is the one that saw
Champ.
Her picture appears on the cover of the book
by Joseph W. Zarzynski.
Why don’t you tell us when it was, and where
you were, and a little bit about it.
I was in Vermont, on the Vermont side and
my husband, well we won’t married at the time,
my fiance (now my husband) and my children.
We were exploring the lake. I grew up in that
area, and we were just exploring the lake sitting there;
enjoying the peace and quiet.
My husband had gone back to the car to get
a camera and
while he was gone there was a disturbance
in the lake.
And I looked out and I thought it was perhaps
a school of fish; maybe a scuba diver or something,
And then the head and neck broke the surface
of the water.
The head flipped up, and the neck and the
back - and I knew it wasn’t a fish.
And some people said, I heard that some body
told you that they thought it was a duck.
Well maybe it was a two thousand pound duck!
When you were at the church, you came to hear
me speak in Dublin, New Hampshire.
I had all my dinosaurs on the table, you immediately
picked up this one as Champ.
But you said it was a little different than
what you saw.
Yes, what I saw, the creature’s neck was not
as nearly as long.
The head is shaped right like a horse head.
The neck is not near as long.
There are three or four different swimming
dinosaurs that the bones have been found of.
There’s the Cronosaur, that has a huge neck;
the Plesiosaur which you are holding; ...
then there is the Elasmosaur, it had a shorter
neck, and the head is at a right angle to the body.
Not actually in line with the body. There
may also be others undiscovered yet.
We will get that where they can see this image
on the camera.
I think this one, but more with a shorter
neck, or the neck may not of been all out
of the water too.
Okay, all right this was back in 1977. Yes.
How many other people do you know or have
you talked to that claimed they have seen it also?
I have spoken with probably about six different
people who have seen it.
And all of our accounts are very, very similar.
So we all can’t be crazy.
We all can’t be telling of something that
we did not see; but they are all very, very similar.
The shape of the head and neck, just the massive
size of it.
You watched it for about how long would you
say?
Probably from the time of the disturbance
until it went back down, maybe eight minutes to ten  minutes.
Eight to ten minutes, okay. You told me the
last time we talked about a year ago, ...
when it first came up it was looking different
directions, it was looking around.
When it came up, it was facing this way kind
of to me, then when it came up out of the water.
It looked around, when I did take the one
snap shot, it was getting fidgety.
It was getting a little more movement to it,
and it had turned its head to look over its back
And that’s when I got the snap shot, and then
it turned and went down.
It started going down like this, and then
it put its head down under the water.
After it was completely under water, I heard
a boat coming.
I heard a boat. I didn’t even see the boat,
but I heard it coming.
It knew that a boat was coming long before
my sense of hearing did.
A lot of people that I interview have told
me like the ones in Africa, dinosaurs in Africa,
the natives claim that they have very sensitive
hearing.
They can hear you coming and then they’ll
duck under the water.
I’ve got missionary friends over there that
say there are dinosaurs over there in that swamp.
Absolutely, I am sure of it. If God created one,
He created many.
Sure. This is something that has to be a creation.
It is not something that comes from an eel or any 
of that nonsense. If He created one, He created many.
Sure, Right. Your picture as well as being on the cover
of Joseph’s book is been in a number of places.
It was in Time Magazine, July, 1981. You were
on the TV show “Unsolved Mysteries,” this last week?
“Unsolved Mysteries” has me shown three times. 
The first time was in September of last year, 1992.
Then recently again about a week or so ago.
They had another run of. So you are a movie star now. No.
There are those who teach that Evolution is
a proven fact. That dinosaurs lived millions of years ago.
As you know I think very differently, and
I have been a science teacher for 15 years,
I have a strong opinion that a few dinosaurs
are even still a live, the world is not millions of years ago.
Would you saw that what you saw best describes
as being a dinosaur of some kind? Water dwelling?
I saw a dinosaur. You felt like you were seeing
a dinosaur, huh? I know I did.
Not “felt,” I KNOW that I saw a dinosaur. You know, okay. I
saw a dinosaur.
The question comes to some people’s mind,
why did you only take one picture?
Because I did not want to miss anything. Because
you were watching it?
I was busy watching it. I brought the camera.
I took the one photograph and I put it down.
I did not want to miss anything. I was in
such total awe. Right.
I was in awe over what was happening, and
I don’t even know why I took the one.
It was just instinct; my husband had handed
me the camera.
He had gone after the camera to take pictures
of the children. That was before it surfaced.
He didn’t even know anything was going on
until he got back there.
And he handed me the camera so he could help
me up the bank.
I was shaking, and I moved down on my knees,
and I picked the camera up.
I took the one photograph and I put it down.
...I was going to fall down.
You could have taken twenty pictures. Right.
Absolutely. But I wanted to watch it.
...And my mind was trying to rationalize it...
And I was trying to think - what is this?
And it comes to a point when you cannot rationalize
with yourself. You stand in awe.
Well, great. Anything else? Any typical questions
you get asked?
Most of the people that interview you, are
those that believe in Evolution? Yes.
How do you feel about that? You don’t like
that. I agree with you 100%.
I appreciate you letting me use your picture.
I put it on one of my posters. Beautiful.
I have quite a few pictures from different
people. My motive is to strength people’s
faith in the Bible.
The Bible is the Word of God. There’s Sandy’s
picture.
You have been featured in a number of shows,
magazines, and things like that.
You have lived here how long in Winchester?
Twenty years.
Twenty years, so you had no intention of becoming
a celebrity by photographing Champ?
No, as a matter of fact I didn’t even want
to publish; I kept it a secret for two years.
Then I made them keep it in the scientific
world.
I was forced by the media to publish, because
they were calling.
And wondered, “...if this exist then why 
have we not seen it?” so I was forced to do it.
That’s why I had to put a copyright on it,
so I could have some control and protection.
They would have to get my permission in order
to use it. That was smart, a good move.
Now people ask me, “If there are so many of
these creatures then why don’t we get more pictures?”
I ask them the question, “Have you ever seen
a car wreck?” They say, “Well, sure.”
I say, “Give me a picture of one as it happens.”
You never see a picture of a car wreck as
it happens, yet thousands of car wrecks happens.
So its fleeting, it last a few seconds, and
you don’t think about taking a picture until
it’s too late. That’s right.
Well maybe you could keep me posted.
And send me any information since people probably
come to you all the time and say “I saw it.”
Yes. I would like to keep a file of that.
Send me a list. Absolutely.
(Dr. Hovind’s continues his interview with Sandi Mansi)
Here is Champ up here on the wall. Tell them
about the old gentleman that came and looked at it.
I was standing here at the counter. An elderly
gentleman came in.
And he was staring at the picture, and staring,
and he asked me what it was?
I told him it was “Champ” in Lake Champlain.
He went on to tell me that he never told a
soul about this, and he was in his eighties.
He said he was eighty-nine or eighty-seven.
He told me about when he was a young man,
he went fishing with his grandfather up in
Lake Champlain. It was up by the Bulwagga Bay, in that area.
He grew up on the lake? Yes, he grew up on the lake.
He told me a time that He and his grandfather were out fishing - 
and this monstrous big thing came out of the water
And his grandfather told him that it was Champ
and that he wasn’t to tell anybody.
People would only laugh and think that they
were insane.
All those years he never told a soul about
it. I was the first person that he told.
He said to me, “I was not insane and my grandfather
was not insane, we saw a living, breathing dinosaur.”
And I was like, Hallelujah. Yes. More testimonies.
Absolutely.
Now other people have seen it and come to
you and say...?
Yes, I appreciate that because it gives me
the indication that I am not crazy.
I was not prefabricating it. This is what
I saw, and this is what they saw.
And we all saw something, and someday maybe
the lake will give up her secret; let’s not
kill it.
Don’t kill it, no. Right thank you so much,
you’ve got customers here, we better let you go
(The following is the video taken by Lee Smith from the top of the lighthouse at Crown Point, New York)
Child: It’s a shark!
It’s got some white things on it! It’s coming
out of it - coming out of the water.
Hey it’s going under. It’s following its trails.
It went under right there, dad.
Let’s see those binoculars. Huh? Let’s see
those binoculars.
Was it a shark? No, it wasn’t a shark. Something
just came up there. I saw it, dad.
Yeah, it went under. I think we just saw “Champ.”
What’s Champ?
The Lake Champlain sea monster. But now it’s
gone, Clayton.
I shouldn’t have looked out of the binoculars
so long; I should have gotten the camera.
It probably went under the same way; it started
way the heck out there.
He was just past that buoy when that sail
boat went by. I know.
I was looking at it with the binoculars. I
thought it was just a log.
It went all the way from that buoy all the
way inland, then it went underneath right
in there.
(Lee Smith video ends; scientific video begins.)
This is a giant squid of the species Architeuthis
Dux.
It came on shore November 22, 1979, near Brainerd’s
Conurs Island, Bon Vista Bay, Newfoundland.
It is an immature female. It is a small female,
but it is of the species of the Giant Squid.
I believe the Giant Squid reaches approximately
a maximum size of something like 150 feet (46 m).
If this is 20 feet (6 m) long than it’s almost
8 times longer than this in overall length.
That’s a big Squid.
(The following are various interviews with 
people who have seen strange creatures in the sea.)
In 1976, Just 30 miles (50 km) off of the Lizard
Point, in Cornwall, two fishermen, ...
George Venican and John Cox also met a monster.
It once came in 30 miles off, 25 - 30 miles
(45-50 km) off.
I saw what I thought what was an upturned
boat on me. We went over to investigate.
When we got closer we could see that it wasn’t
an up turned boat.
It was something others have seen before.
So dark in color with sort of bumps on the back.
Between 15-18 feet (4-5 m) in length. Rising
above the sea about 3 feet (1 m).
It was a flat (no waves) calm day; there was no disturbance
on the sea at all.
We got up closer, I came astern (to the rear of the boat), 
it was raising up out of the water.
He was only about 3 feet (1 m) from where
the back of the boat was.
His head peered out of the water!
I thought it was a thing that I never saw
before in my 40 years at sea.
And it gradually sank in the water; and then
it disappeared.
After talking about it, the only thing we
could think of was that it is very much like
a prehistoric animal!
We are having an open line program. ... Theresa,
How are you?
I am fine, thank you. We are talking about
the Ogopogo today. A lot of people in the
area have seen it.
The legend goes on for many years, and we
will be talking to some experts.
We’ve got Arlene Gull coming in. Arlene wrote
a book on it. That’s right.
We are going to go to the phone lines right
now.
Line two, good morning. Hello there Mr. Palridge.
Yes go ahead sir!
You wanted to know about Ogopogo. I certainly
do.
Yes, okay, I had a taxi and I took a passenger
to the hospital.
I was coming down Abbott Street, and I got
as far as about here, I looked towards the lake
I was surprised. I saw this thing come out
of the water.
It was like a horse’s head with kind of horns
on it.
Well he was huge. Standing up there, oh my
- just like a big serpent.
Then another fellow came up behind me, “what
are you looking at?”
I said, “I see Ogopogo over there.” He said,
“Where!? Where?”
“Over there,” I said. I had the door opened
of the car.
I stepped out just a little bit - and he slipped
back down into the water.
He said, “Gee look at the big waves there.”
And all we could see was big waves, going
down there over near the boat ramp.
And it disappeared. Then I got all excited.
I got in the car.
I pulled into the Willow Inn and I told the
people. They were having breakfast.
“I’ve just seen Ogopogo!” They said, “What
the heck have you been drinking?”
Line four, go ahead please. Hello John. How
are you? I am not too bad. Good.
Are you going to give me your name? No, I
am not. Okay.
I saw Ogopogo off of Clarsen four years ago.
You don’t want to give your name on the air.
No, I don’t. You told some people obviously.
Ah, yes.
Are you afraid that they will think that you
are a little bit crazy?
I later had some strange phone calls. I get
them everyday and that’s what they pay me for.
Well I do not get paid for them; I really
don’t want any more, thank you.
We were up on the beach having a picnic.
My daughter was on the swings when I saw this
“creature” underneath the wharf there.
When I turned around and saw it and realized
it was the legendary Ogopogo, I just freaked out.
I just grabbed the baby and ran down to the
beach.
And I guess I yelled over and over “It’s him!”
She was screaming loudly. I couldn’t believe
it; her face was so red.
It was fishing, or whatever it was doing.
It was there for quite some time, then it
straightened out.
And it went along those poles. As it traveled
along just the three humps were showing.
And they were from one end of those poles
to the other; spaced out, the three humps were.
It traveled along the beach until about the
corner over there.
And then it turned and it went straight across
the lake.
All right we are going to break from the phone
calls right now.
And we’ll introduce to you someone that’s
well known to the Okanagan Valley.
Arlene Gaal; Arlene has written a book on
the Ogopogo. Good morning, Arlene.
Good Morning John. Good morning Theresa.
Good morning Arlene. How many 
sighting have you documented?
Literally hundreds. When was the first sighting?
The very first sighting was in 1852.
The first documented sighting was in 1852,
and it is now 1980.
Do we take it to mean that there must be more
than one Ogopogo?
There definitely appears to be more than one.
There has been a film made, I think it was
back in 1968.
It’s pretty hard not to believe when you see
it right in front of your eyes.
Tell us about that film this morning.
The Folden film was taken in 1968 by a gentleman
by the name of Art Folden.
He was returning from a trip to his home in
Chase.
And as he neared the peach lined area he spotted
an object in the lake.
He said to his wife, “Look, there is Ogopogo.”
She laughed at him.
He got out and started filming the creature.
What we see in the film is a large animate
object moving through the water.
It is surfacing and submerging at various
speeds and at various times.
It also shows the creature taking off at very
high speed and producing a massive wake.
And this is the footage in the film that I
like very much because you see a creature
just pushing water quickly, with that massive
wake - creating huge wave action.
This is believability on my part. Have there
been any recent sightings?
We’ve had approximately seven to eight sightings
this year.
We have one that has been the very best sighting.
Why? That was the Rieger family.
It was a beautiful day the water was just
as calm as glass.
I just looked across and I could see a big
wave coming at me.
And at that time I did not take much notice
of it, but it kept coming closer.
And I thought to myself, why would there be
a wave coming if there’s no wind or anything?
So I called to my son, I said come on back
here and take a look.
See if you can think what the heck is coming
down the lake here.
So he took a look at it and replied, “Gee,
I don’t know.” So we had my grandson along too.
He said, “Hey Grandpa, that’s the Ogopogo!”
It would have ran right into us, but we pulled
the boat along off to the side.
So we followed it along side for about maybe
15 -20 minutes.
I would say the monster was possibly 14-16
feet long (4-5 m) and which was above water
was about 3 feet.
It had quite a hump in the front shoulders,
and it had a hump on the back where the tail was.
I’d say the tail was approximately 30-40 (9-12
m) or maybe 50 feet you couldn’t see the end of it.
But he did have a long tail. He had four legs.
I would say the monster weighed approximately
maybe 30 tons.
And his head in the front was moving from
side to side.
It seemed like it was looking for fish or
feeding or something like that.
He was stirring up a tremendous amount of
water. If I never seen it, I wouldn’t have ever believed it.
Actually I don’t really care if anyone believes
me or not.
I saw that animal and I know it is here. I
know it is a tremendous size animal.
It was some sort of a “monster fish” for lack
of a better word.
But it was approximately 30 to 35 feet (9-11
m) in length.
Its head was protruding out of the water,
and you could see the flagellum action of the tail.
And the waves were going beyond it. And I
took two pictures of it.
You said it was roughly similar to this? What
was different?
Similar to this, but I couldn’t see these
fins on the side. Okay.
Because that was the fish that I saw, or whatever,
but they were not within sight.
You could only see the head, the neck, and
the upper part of the body.
This is Kent Hovind from Pensacola, Florida.
I am here in Canada, at the 100 Huntley Street Program.
Several years ago I think it was 1994, when
I was here on the program.
I brought my book from Dr. Roy Mackel, “A
Living Dinosaur.”
And I am with Cal, who is sitting here beside
me.
He said, “When I was in Africa I saw something
like that a dinosaur.”
I turned to this page, Page 256 in Roy Mackels
book and Cal, you said, “Hey, I saw one of those!”
Would you take just a few minutes and tell
the folks what you saw and where you work
And if they can get a hold of you in case
they have any questions - just describe what you saw.
It was one of the most startling experiences
that I have ever had. It was about in 1963.
I was on my way through the old roads of Kenya,
back to Nairobi to pick up a car.
So I was taking this old Chevrolet that was
almost probably too big for the roads because of the pot holes.
I was going rather slow. It was a hilly country
near a place called Muhoroni.
That’s down in the Rift Valley, but a hilly
part of the Rift Valley.
As we were coming up to the brow of the hill,
oh, and my wife was with me.
Suddenly it was laying there in front of us
- across the road 7, 8, or 9 feet (2-3 m) long.
I thought at first it was a crocodile. And
then I thought no it can’t be a crocodile.
This is a dry part of the country. Then as
I looked at it we slowed down.
I stopped the car actually, and sat there
looking at it for about 10 minutes
As I looked at it, I thought of the actual
word “prehistoric” is what went through my mind.
I said, “This can’t be real.” I have seen
pictures like this but not quite like this one.
Anyways, from the tail right up to the back
of it’s head were - a series of - ridges.
Ridges, like triangles, perfect triangles
all the way from the head to the tail.
And it was just laying squatted down on the
road. It seemed to be warming in the sun.
So I looked at the thing for ten minutes.
I could shoot myself for not having my camera
with me that day.
I wish I had, but there it was, I have never
seen anything like it neither before nor since.
And I’ve asked people and I went to the natural
history museum.
I said, “Have you seen or heard of anything
in Kenya of this nature?”
And they said, “No there is nothing alive
like that today.”
I said, “I saw something like this.” And I
argued with them rather intently for awhile
And they said, “...well it must have been 
a figment of your imagination.”
Well my wife and I both saw it.
We asked experts for several years if anybody
have seen anything like that.
Nobody had, nor had I since. But there it
was laying there on the side of the road.
After about ten minutes, it stood up not quite
as high as in this drawing.
It kind of wandered off into a very dry part
of the country, a bushy area.
Not much greenery, it was a dry time of the year and It just took off, and Marion and I just looked at each other wondering, “what in the world
is this thing?”
What color was it? It was kind of dusty gray.
Could you see the eyes?
Yes, they blinked. In fact it turned its head
and looked at us; it didn’t seem to be afraid of us.
Could you tell by the pupil of the eyeball
was it slotted or round?
I don’t think I was close enough to see that.
Was the shape of the snout like a crocodile?
More like a crocodile than a hippo I’d say;
it had a long face.
Some of the African people I asked, and they
said it was a Monitor Lizard.
I said that’s impossible. I’ve seen many monitor
lizards
I’ve never seen one 9 feet (3 m) long; never
has been one as long as that one.
I’ve accidentally killed a couple of monitor
Lizard by them hitting my car.
They’re smooth skinned; with no ridges on
the back. I know a monitor lizard when I see one.
This was not a monitor Lizard; this thing
had those ridges down its back.
Could you tell if it had smooth skin or scales?
It looked kind of bumpy, more like an alligator.
Right, okay. On the side, I don’t think it
had scales. I can’t really be sure.
Well alright. It’s been a lot of years ago.
This is 1997. I understand.
I have been saying for years that there is
a few dinosaurs still alive.
And the first thought in your mind was that
it was something prehistoric, huh?
Well, I have been preconditioned by all the
education that I’d had up until that time.
These things don’t exist. Whatever it is,
it can’t be a dinosaur.
That’s the first thought most people have.
I considered that it had to be some kind of a lizard.
Because you have lizards of every size from
a Gecko all the way up to monitor lizards.
You work here at 100 Huntley Street.
What’s the phone number here so if they have
any questions they can call and ask for Mr.
Cal Bombay?
My phone number is area code 1-905-335-7100,
ex. 3206.
Well, call him up if you don’t believe it.
I saw it. When I saw this picture I thought,
“That is what I saw!”
Let’s get them to zoom in on this picture
if you can, and we will close out with that.
If you have any questions, we would be glad
to help.
Give us a call if you want more information
on dinosaurs.
You let us know. We will be glad to send our
video tapes on: Creation, Evolution and Dinosaurs.
So that’s what you saw that day in 1962? This
is the closest thing I have ever seen.
Okay thank you so much, brother. I appreciate
the time and God bless you.
You are welcome, thank you.
We hope you have enjoyed the video series
on creation, evolution and dinosaurs.
Much more important though than knowing all
the truth and facts about science is to know
the truth about whether you’re going to Heaven
or not.
If you’ve never trusted Christ as your Savior,
let me explain quickly what you need to do
to go to Heaven.
The Bible says we’re all sinners. We’ve all
broken God’s laws. We’ve disobeyed the Creator.
We’ve done wicked things. We’re sinners. Some
are worse than others, at least in man’s eyes,
but we’ve all broken God’s laws.
And the Bible says you have to repent. The
word “repent” means to turn, it actually means
2 things, to turn from your sin and to turn
to God.
God’s looking for a change in your attitude
where you say, “Lord, I don’t want to do wrong anymore.
I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I want to do
right.”
And you turn from sin, and you turn to God
and say, “God, would you please forgive me?
Would you save me?”
The Bible says in Romans chapter 3 verse 23:
For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
You need to admit you’re a sinner. Number
2: The Bible says in Romans 6:23, “The wages
of sin is death.”
We deserve to die and go to hell because of
our sin. But, Jesus died for you. He loves
you. He wants you to come to Heaven.
And anybody that will ask Him for free salvation,
God will give you the gift of eternal life
it says in Romans 6:23. It’s a free gift.
And it says in Romans chapter 10 and verse
13: Whosoever shall call upon the name of
the Lord shall be saved.
If you would just call and say, “Lord, I’m
a sinner. Would you please forgive me?” And
ask him. He will give you that free gift of
eternal life.
Why don’t you just pray with me right now,
and you could receive Christ as your Savior?
There’s no magic words God is looking 
at your heart. But if you could say this and
mean it, God would forgive you. 
Just say, “Dear Lord Jesus,
I know that I’m a sinner.
I’ve broken your laws. I’m sorry. Please forgive
me. Please apply your blood to my account.
Forgive my sins and take me to Heaven. In
Jesus’ name, Amen.”
The Bible says, “If you call upon the Lord,
you shall be saved.”
So if you’ve asked the Lord to save you, he
promised he’d save you. Now your job is to grow.
Read your Bible, pray, get involved in a good
Bible-believing church and begin to grow to
be a good Christian.
Thank you so much. Call or write if we can
be any help at all. We’d be glad to help.
What you are about to hear 
is an audio tape:
It is apparently the roaring of the creature
in the Congo Swamp
The natives there call it: Mokele-Mbembe,
which would be one of the few living dinosaurs.
The sound appears to also have a flapping
or a slapping sound near the end of each roar.
Some have speculated that this may be similar
to the Gecko Lizard.
That makes a little roaring sound with the
flap of skin under its throat.
It slaps back against the throat making the
slapping sound.
That’s the best we have so far on this; so
if you hear any more let me know. I hope you enjoy it.
ROAR!!
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 Creation Science Evangelism write us at:
Creation Science Evangelism, P.O. Box 37338,
Pensacola, FL. 32526 USA
or Call us at 1-850-479-3466, 
that’s 1-850-479-DINO.
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