HIM.
INVESTIGATING CORRESPONDENT KYRA
PHILLIPS HAVE THAT STORY. 
>> VANS WAS A SOUT MEMBER, 
RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE MORMON 
CHURCH AND NOW A CONVICTED 
PEDOPHILE. 
>> I AM CORRECT THAT YOU ON 
OCCASION WOULD TIE MELVIN UP?
>> YES. 
>> HE FOOLED EVERYONE. 
>> AT THIS POINT I STARTED 
CRYING. 
>> WHY WERE YOU CRYING?
>> ASHAMED, SHARED, I'M 14 YEARS
OLD IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE 
WITH VANS AND HE'S ASKING ME TO 
REMO MY CLOTHES.
I FELT LIKE IT WAS WRONG. 
>> FOR YEARS THE CLUES WERE 
THERE, EVIDENCE DISCOUNTED.
EVEN A STATE TROOPER WROTE IN A 
POLICE REPORT HE BELIEVED VANCE 
HINE RUZ A SEXUAL PREDATOR.
BUT FOR THE BOY SCOUTS OF 
AMERICA AND THE MORMON CHURCH, 
THOSE WARNING SIGNS WERE MISSED.
MELVIN NOVAK WAS FIVE YEARS OLD 
WHEN HE MET VANCE HINE AT 
CHURCH.
BUT IT WAS HERE AT CAMP 
HORSESHOE WHEN HE BECAME HIS 
SCOUT LEADER.
THEY BECAME CLOSE. 
>> HE ALWAYS HAD SOMETHING I 
WANTED, WHETHER IT WAS SPENDING 
TIME WITH ME, WHETHER IT WAS 
BUYING SOMETHING COOL THAT A KID
WOULD WANT, TAKING YOU PLACES 
KIDS WOULD WANT TO GO, TAKING 
SPECIAL INTEREST IN ME, 
BASICALLY NOTING ME. 
>> YEARS OF WHAT NOVAK AND HIS 
FAMILY THOUGHT WAS A LOVING 
MENTORSHIP.
BUT THAT ALL CHANGED WHEN HOOIN 
ASKED HIM TO JOIN A SECRET CLUB,
A QUOTE BROTHERHOOD.
>> HE SAID I'M PART OF AN 
ORGANIZATION THAT'S DEEPER INTO 
THE BOY SCOUTS.
IT'S JOURNEY THAT WOULD BUILD 
WITH YOU AND ME A BOND TOGETHER.
>> AN ABUSIVE JOURNEY THAT 
OCCURRED AT HINE'S HOME AND HEAR
AT BOY SCOTT CAMP. 
>> HE FOUND A TWIG IN THE WOODS 
AND JUST USED THAT TO SMACK ME 
AND A LOT OF TIMES HIT ME IN THE
GENITALS. 
>> HOWEVER THAT RITUAL WAS JUST 
A COVERUP FOR A COME ON THAT 
CULMINATED IN A HOTEL ROOM. 
>> THERE'S ONE FINAL THING YOU 
NEED TO FULLY COMMIT TO ME AS 
YOUR BROTHER.
NOT JUST A SPIRIT GUIDE BUT AS 
HIS BROTHER IN THE BROTHERHOOD 
AND THAT'S WHEN HE GOT ON HIS 
KNEES AND STARTED TO GIVE ME 
ORAL.
AND I JUST SAT THERE, YOU KNOW, 
TEARS ROLLING DOWN MY FACE, 
CRYING. 
>> 15 YEARS LATER NOVAK DECIDED 
TO SUE.
ONE OF AT LEAST FIVE LAWSUITS 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BLAMING NOT 
ONLY THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA 
BUT THE MORMON CHURCH FOR SEXUAL
ABUSE THEY SUFFERED IN THE BOY 
SCOUTS.
THE LAWSUIT CHARGES VANCE HINE 
ACTIVITY GROOMED YOUNG BOYS 
UNDER HIS CHARGE FOR LATER 
SEXUAL MOLESTATION. 
>> THE LDS CHURCH KNEW THAT 
VANCE HINE, THIS PEDOPHILE WAS 
ALREADY KICKED OUT OF THE 
SCOUTING BY THE BOY SCOUTS OF 
AMERICA. 
>> KICKED OUT, FIRED FROM HIS 
JOB AT THE BOY SCOUTS.
AND HIS NAME ADDED TO ITS 
INELIGIBLE VOLUNTEER FILES, 
FILES OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE 
PERVERSION FILES.
BLACKLISTS OF SCOUT LEADERS 
SUSPECTED OF SEXUAL ABUSE OR 
HOMOSEXUALITY.
THEY BECAME PUBLIC IN 2012.
THIS IS VANCE HINE'S SO-CALLED 
PERVERSION FILE.
IT INCLUDES A TERMINATION MEMO 
FROM THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA 
STATING HINE WAS AWARE OF 
HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY WHEN HE WAS 
CAMP DIRECTOR, WHICH IS AGAINST 
SCOUT RULES AND FAILED TO REPORT
SUCH ACTIVITY.
INCIDENTS INVOLVED A CAMP WORKER
HE SUPERVISED WHO WAS SENT TO 
PRISON YEARS LATER FOR SEXUAL 
ASSAULTS ON MINORS.
IN ADDITION, THIS CRIME REPORT 
SAYS HINE HAD A SEXUAL 
RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT WORKER 
AND DELIBERATELY ACTED TO 
PREVENT HIS REMOVAL FROM THE 
CAMP STAFF, ALLOWING THE ABUSE 
TO CONTINUE.
THE STATE TROOPER WHO WROTE THIS
REPORT SAYS HE WANTED TO ARREST 
HINE FOR ENDANGERING CHILDREN 
BUT NO CHARGES FOR EVER FILED.
HINE DESCRIBES HOW HE LURED AND 
ABUSED MELVIN NOVAK IN THIS 
DEPOSITION TAKEN LAST YEAR.
>> DID YOU TALK TO MELVIN ABOUT 
A JOURNEY THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO 
UNDERTAKE OF BROTHERHOOD?
>> YES. 
>> WAS THAT YOUR WAY OF GROOMING
HIM?
>> YES. 
>> EVEN THOUGH HINE DIDN'T ADMIT
TO THE ABUSE UNTIL YEARS LATER, 
IN BETWEEN THAT TIME HE WAS ABLE
TO CONVINCE THE BOY SCOUTS TO 
REINSTATE HIM.
HE HAD POWERFUL SUPPORTERS.
THESE LETTERS WERE ALL WRITTEN 
ATTESTING TO VANCE HINE'S 
CHARACTER, INCLUDING THIS ONE 
FROM HINE'S INFLUENTIAL MORMON 
BISHOP, JACK MOYER.
IT SAYS, HINE IS A MEMBER OF MY 
CONGREGATION.
I HAVE FULL FAITH AND TRUST IN 
HIM IN HIS DEALINGS WITH ALL OF 
OUR YOUNG MEN AT CHURCH.
HE IS HIGHLY RESPECTED AND 
LIKED.
IN A DEPOSITION BISHOP MOYER, 
WHO IS NOW RETIRED, ADMITS HE 
JUST DIDN'T DO ENOUGH DIGGING.
>> IF YOU HAD IT TO DO ALL OVER 
AGAIN WOULD YOU HAVE DONE SOME 
INVESTIGATION?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I WOULDN'T HAVE WRITTEN THE 
LETTER EITHER. 
>> THE BISHOPS ATTORNEY PUTS THE
BLAME SOLELY ON THE BOY SCOUTS 
OF AMERICA. 
>> IF THE BOY SCOUTS HAD 
DISCLOSED TO BISHOP MOYER THE 
INFORMATION THEY HAD IN THEIR 
FILES, THERE WAS NO WAY THAT 
VANCE HINE WOULD HAVE EVER 
BECOME A SCOUT MASTER AND HE 
WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO 
EXCOMMUNICATION FROM THE CHURCH.
>> THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA 
DECLINED OUR REPEATED REQUEST 
FOR AN ONLINE INTERVIEW BUT IN A
STATEMENT SAID THAT VANCE HINE'S
MEMBER WAS REVOKED FOR REASONS 
UNRELATED TO CHILD ABUSE.
WHEN HE RE-EVALUATED TO THE 
SCOUTS, A THOROUGH REVIEW WAS 
CONDUCTED BY MANY COMMUNITY AND 
SCOUTING LEADERS.
AND HIS APPLICATION TO BE AN 
ADULT VOLUNTEER LEADER WAS 
ACCEPTED.
WHILE DECLINING TO COMMENT 
FURTHER ON THE NOVAK CASE, THE 
BOY SCOUTS DID SAY, OUR EFFORTS 
TO PROTECT YOUTH ONE PLAINLY 
INSUFFICIENT, INAPPROPRIATE OR 
WRONG.
WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST APOLOGIES 
TO VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA SAYS 
IT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO PREVENT 
SEXUAL ABUSE. 
>> AND YOUR MESSAGE TO THE 
MORMON CHURCH?
>> DO SOMETHING.
DO SOMETHING NOW.
>> IN THE MORMON CHURCH'S FIRST 
INTERVIEW ON SEXUAL ABUSE IN THE
BOY SCOUTS, WE SAT DOWN WITH 
CHURCH ELDER L. WHITNEY CLAYTON.
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO MELVIN 
NOVAK IN. 
>> I SAY TO HIM, AND TO ANYONE 
ELSE WHO HAS BEEN ABUSED IN THE 
CHURCH OR AROUND THE CHURCH, I'M
SORRY THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH 
WHAT YOU'VE GONE THREW.
IT'S A HORRIBLE THING FOR 
ANYBODY TO BE ABUSED. 
>> CLAYTON MADE IT VERY CLEAR, 
UNLIKE DECADES AGO, THE MORMON 
CHURCH AS IRCHMENTED SAFEGUARDS 
TO TRY AND PREVENT IT. 
>> WE WANT THIS MESSAGE TO BE 
CLEAR.
NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO ENDURE 
CHILD ABUSE PERIOD.
THAT'S WHAT ZERO TOLERANCE 
MEANS.
WE WANT WRUR MEMBER TO KNOW WHAT
TO DO, WE WANT THE LEADERS TO 
KNOW WHAT TO DO.
WE TAKE EXTRAORDINARY STEPS.
WE PUT SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.
WE REMODELED BUILDINGS IN SUCH A
WAY THAT THE DOORS HAVE WINDOWS.
THE TWO ADULT POLICY, 
ANNOTATIONS ON CHURCH RECORDS, 
PAYING FOR COUNSELING.
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO ARE
DESIGNED TO DO WHAT WE THINK THE
SAVIOR WOULD DO TO PROTECT 
CHILDREN IN A WORLD THAT HAS 
LOST ITS MORAL COMPASS. 
>> CAN YOU SAY WITH ABSOLUTE 
CERTAINTY TO ALL MOMS AND DADS, 
OUR LDS BOY SCOUT TROOPS ARE 
SAFE?
>> I CAN SAY THAT WE DO 
EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ANYWHERE WHO
OFFERS PERFECTION, EXCEPT THE 
LORD JESUS  NOVAK WHO 
LOVED THE SCOUTS AND THE CHURCH 
UNTIL SOMETHING HORRIFIC 
HAPPENED TO HIM.
KYRA IS HERE WITH ME NOW TO TALK
MORE ABOUT THIS INCREDIBLY 
DISTURBING INVESTIGATION THAT 
YOU'VE DONE.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NOVAK CASE?
>> WELL THE CASE IS SETTLED NOW.
MELVIN IS TRYING TO MOVE ON WITH
HIS LIFE.
HE'S IN REALLY INTENSE 
COUNSELING TRYING TO RAISE A NEW
BABY WITH HIS WIFE.
THE LDS CHURCH SAID IT WAS NOT 
HELD LIABLE AND DID NOT HAVE TO 
PAY IN THE SETTLEMENT.
THE BOY SCOUTS HOWEVER WOULDN'T 
COMMENT ON THE SETTLEMENT. 
>> AND WHAT ABOUT THE FORMER 
SCOUT LEADER VANCE HINE WHO WE 
SAW THERE ADMITTING TO WHAT HE 
HAD DONE?
>> HE WAS ON PROBATION FOR THE 
MELVIN NOVAK CASE, CAUGHT WITH 
CHILD PORN.
IN PRISON NOW SERVING UP TO 30 
YEARS.
AND AS YOU SAW BY THE PIECE -- 
THIS IS WHAT'S SO HEART 
WRENCHING AS A MOM, TOO, AND A 
JOURNALIST.
HE SHOW NOS REMORSE, NO FEELING 
AT ALL AND HAD NO PROBLEM 
TALKING ABOUT HOW HE ABUSED 
MELVIN. 
>> AND HE WENT INTO GREAT DEAL. 
>> HE HAD NO PROBLEM ADMITTING 
TO WHAT HE DID.
HE HAS BEEN EXCOMMUNICATED FROM 
THE MORMON CHURCH.
WE REACHED OUT TO HIM FOR
