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>>> I AM SO HAPPY TO TURN THE
>>> I AM SO HAPPY TO TURN THE
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TODAY IS NATIONAL TV TALK SHOW
TODAY IS NATIONAL TV TALK SHOW
HOST DAY.
HOST DAY.
MAYBE YOU DIDNT KNOW.
MAYBE YOU DIDNT KNOW.
CELEBRATED ON THE BIRTHDAY OF TV
CELEBRATED ON THE BIRTHDAY OF TV
LEGEND, JOHNNY CARSON.
LEGEND, JOHNNY CARSON.
WE DECIDED TO HONOR THIS DAY
WE DECIDED TO HONOR THIS DAY
WITH A VISIT FROM THE GREATEST.
WITH A VISIT FROM THE GREATEST.
ANOTHER PIONEER OF THE TALK
ANOTHER PIONEER OF THE TALK
SHOW, PHIL DONAHUE.
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YES.
YES.
SO, FOR THE AUDIENCE AT HOME, WE
SO, FOR THE AUDIENCE AT HOME, WE
SNEAKED PHIL OUT HERE DURING THE
SNEAKED PHIL OUT HERE DURING THE
COMMERCIAL BREAK.
COMMERCIAL BREAK.
AND THE AUDIENCE LEAPT TO ITS
FEET AND GAVE HIM A STANDINGS
FEET AND GAVE HIM A STANDING
OVATION
OVATION
OVATION.
OVATION.
THATS HOW WE FELT ABOUT YOU,
THATS HOW WE FELT ABOUT YOU,
TOO.
TOO.
YOU HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS TO ME
IN GETTING READY FOR THIS SHOW.
IN GETTING READY FOR THIS SHOW.
WE ALL REMEMBER THE DONAHUE
WE ALL REMEMBER THE DONAHUE
DAYS.
DAYS.
THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WEVE
SEEN ANYBODY DO, WITH THE LIVE
SEEN ANYBODY DO, WITH THE LIVE
AUDIENCE AND THE ENERGY AND THE
AUDIENCE AND THE ENERGY AND THE
SMART CONVERSATION, RIGHT?
SMART CONVERSATION, RIGHT?
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
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>> IS IT -- GO AHEAD.
>> IS IT -- GO AHEAD.
THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> I TELL YOU WHAT, I WAS ABSORB
>> I TELL YOU WHAT, I WAS ABSORB
ABSORBED IN THAT FIRST SEGMENT.
ABSORBED IN THAT FIRST SEGMENT.
AND IT -- YOU KNOW, IT TELLS
AND IT -- YOU KNOW, IT TELLS
ME -- IT REMINDS ME OF HOW FAR
ME -- IT REMINDS ME OF HOW FAR
WEVE COME.
WEVE COME.
HOW FAR WOMEN HAVE COME.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS -- IN MY DAY,
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS -- IN MY DAY,
IN 1967, WHEN WE BEGAN OUR SHOW,
IN 1967, WHEN WE BEGAN OUR SHOW,
THE MIDDLE AGES --
THE MIDDLE AGES --
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-- YOU KNOW, A MAN COULD -- A
-- YOU KNOW, A MAN COULD -- A
BOSS COULD TELL HIS SECRETARY TO
BOSS COULD TELL HIS SECRETARY TO
WALK AROUND THE ROOM SO HE COULD
WALK AROUND THE ROOM SO HE COULD
LOOK AT HER.
LOOK AT HER.
COULD POKE HER IN THE CHEST AND
COULD POKE HER IN THE CHEST AND
SAY, ARE THESE REAL?
SAY, ARE THESE REAL?
AND GET AWAY WITH I.
AND GET AWAY WITH I.
THERE WAS NOTHING SHE COULD DO
THERE WAS NOTHING SHE COULD DO
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT.
SO, I THINK WHAT WERE SEEING
SO, I THINK WHAT WERE SEEING
NOW, THIS IS A CHAPTER IN THE
NOW, THIS IS A CHAPTER IN THE
WOMENS MOVEMENT.
WOMENS MOVEMENT.
THE WOMEN WHO --
THE WOMEN WHO --
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THE WOMEN WHO FOUGHT BACK STAND
THE WOMEN WHO FOUGHT BACK STAND
ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE EARLY
ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE EARLY
FEMINISTS WHO TOOK A LOT OF A
FEMINISTS WHO TOOK A LOT OF A
ABUSE THEMSELVES.
ABUSE THEMSELVES.
THEY DONT LIKE MEN.
THEY DONT LIKE MEN.
THEY DONT LIKE SEX.
THEY DONT LIKE SEX.
THEYRE HUMORLESS.
THEYRE HUMORLESS.
THEYRE BITCHY.
THEYRE BITCHY.
>> THEYRE STRIDENT.
>> THEYRE STRIDENT.
WE HEAR THAT WORD, STRIDENT.
WE HEAR THAT WORD, STRIDENT.
>> ITS GOOD TO SEE IT.
>> ITS GOOD TO SEE IT.
IT TOOK TOO LONG.
IT TOOK TOO LONG.
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN FOUGHT
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN FOUGHT
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> AND WE HAVE A LONG WAY YET TO
>> AND WE HAVE A LONG WAY YET TO
GO.
GO.
>> OH, YES.
>> OH, YES.
>> PHIL HAS DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS
>> PHIL HAS DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS
A FEMINIST FOR YEARS.
A FEMINIST FOR YEARS.
YOURE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL
YOURE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL
FEMINISTS.
FEMINISTS.
>> I WAS ALWAYS PROUD OF THAT.
I TOOK MY ABUSE MYSELF FOR THAT.
I TOOK MY ABUSE MYSELF FOR THAT.
>> YOU BURNED YOUR BRA.
>> YOU BURNED YOUR BRA.
WHAT?
WHAT?
WAIT.
WAIT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW,
A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW,
YOU WERE RAISING YOUR CHILDREN
YOU WERE RAISING YOUR CHILDREN
BY YOURSELF.
BY YOURSELF.
FOR A LONG PART OF THEIR
FOR A LONG PART OF THEIR
CHILDHOODS.
CHILDHOODS.
I READ PHILS BOOK.
>> YEAH.HILS BOOK.
>> YEAH.
THAT WAS FROM THE SIXTH GRADE
THAT WAS FROM THE SIXTH GRADE
INTO FRESHMEN IN HIGH SCHOOL, IS
INTO FRESHMEN IN HIGH SCHOOL, IS
WHEN I BECAME A SINGLE PARENT OF
WHEN I BECAME A SINGLE PARENT OF
FOUR SONS.
FOUR SONS.
AND I WAS -- I WAS -- I DIDNT
AND I WAS -- I WAS -- I DIDNT
KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
AND I WAS DOING A SHOW EVERY
AND I WAS DOING A SHOW EVERY
DAY, RUNNING BACK AND FORTH OVER
DAY, RUNNING BACK AND FORTH OVER
MY SHOES.
MY SHOES.
AND I CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT
AND I CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT
ABOUT WHAT WOMEN ENDURE.
ABOUT WHAT WOMEN ENDURE.
AND I KNOW THAT DOWNEY GOES IN
AND I KNOW THAT DOWNEY GOES IN
THE RINSE CYCLE.
THE RINSE CYCLE.
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WE DID A SHOW -- I FINALLY WAS
WE DID A SHOW -- I FINALLY WAS
ABLE TO GET SOME HELP.
ABLE TO GET SOME HELP.
A WOMAN FROM YUGOSLAVIA.
A WOMAN FROM YUGOSLAVIA.
VERY SWEET, NICE WOMAN.
VERY SWEET, NICE WOMAN.
AND I DID A SHOW ON DRUGS AND
AND I DID A SHOW ON DRUGS AND
TEENAGERS.
TEENAGERS.
AND WE HAD BONGS AND PIPES AND
SHOWED ALL THE PARAPHERNALIA.D
SHOWED ALL THE PARAPHERNALIA.
AND I GOT HOME FROM WORK THAT
AND I GOT HOME FROM WORK THAT
DAY AND THE WOMAN FROM
DAY AND THE WOMAN FROM
YUGOSLAVIA WHO WAS MY NANNY
YUGOSLAVIA WHO WAS MY NANNY
SAID, MR. DONAHUE, WE HAVE THOSE
SAID, MR. DONAHUE, WE HAVE THOSE
THINGS UNDER YOUR BOYS BED.
THINGS UNDER YOUR BOYS BED.
SO, ITS --
SO, ITS --
>> ITS EDUCATIONAL.
>> ITS EDUCATIONAL.
HELPFUL TO KNOW.
HELPFUL TO KNOW.
>> AND I HAVE TO SAY, ON THEIR
>> AND I HAVE TO SAY, ON THEIR
BEHALF, IM REALLY VERY LUCKY.
BEHALF, IM REALLY VERY LUCKY.
I WAS SCARED TO DEATH.
I WAS SCARED TO DEATH.
THEY REALLY NEVER EMBARRASS ME.
THEY REALLY NEVER EMBARRASS ME.
IM TELLING YOU.
IM TELLING YOU.
WE DID HAVE TWO POT BUSTS.
WE DID HAVE TWO POT BUSTS.
>> JUST TWO.
>> JUST TWO.
I WANT TO ASK YOU, I DONT THINK
I WANT TO ASK YOU, I DONT THINK
PEOPLE KNOW THAT ASPECT OF PHIL,
PEOPLE KNOW THAT ASPECT OF PHIL,
HE WAS AT HOME RAISING THESE
HE WAS AT HOME RAISING THESE
BOYS AT HOME BY HIMSELF.
BOYS AT HOME BY HIMSELF.
WHILE HE WAS DOING THE SHOW WE
WHILE HE WAS DOING THE SHOW WE
ALL WATCHED AND LOVED YOU FOR.
ALL WATCHED AND LOVED YOU FOR.
IS IT TRUE BECAUSE I READ WHEN
IS IT TRUE BECAUSE I READ WHEN
YOU FIRST STARTED DOING IT, THE
YOU FIRST STARTED DOING IT, THE
BELIEF WAS, WOMEN AT THAT TIME,
BELIEF WAS, WOMEN AT THAT TIME,
WERE REALLY ONLY INTERESTED IN
WERE REALLY ONLY INTERESTED IN
SOAP OPERAS AND THE SMART
SOAP OPERAS AND THE SMART
CONVERSATION YOU HAD, THEY
CONVERSATION YOU HAD, THEY
THOUGHT IT WOULD BOMB.
THOUGHT IT WOULD BOMB.
THAT WOMEN AT HOME DIDNT WANT
THAT WOMEN AT HOME DIDNT WANT
TO HEAR THAT.
TO HEAR THAT.
>> WELL, THATS TRUE.
>> WELL, THATS TRUE.
WE WERE VISUALLY BORING.
WE WERE VISUALLY BORING.
TWO TALKING HEADS.
ON THE OTHER STATION, MONTY HALL
ON THE OTHER STATION, MONTY HALL
WAS GIVING AWAY $5,000 TO A
WAS GIVING AWAY $5,000 TO A
WOMEN DRESSED LIKE A CHICKEN
WOMEN DRESSED LIKE A CHICKEN
SALAD SANDWICH.
SALAD SANDWICH.
AND HERE I AM WITH, YOU KNOW,
AND HERE I AM WITH, YOU KNOW,
RAFFLE NADER.
RAFFLE NADER.
AND RALPH NADER CAME ON AND HE
AND RALPH NADER CAME ON AND HE
SAID, ITS THE SECOND CRASH THAT
SAID, ITS THE SECOND CRASH THAT
WILL CAUSE YOU INJURY.
WILL CAUSE YOU INJURY.
WHEN YOU RATTLE AROUND THE
WHEN YOU RATTLE AROUND THE
INSIDE OF A CAR, YOU STRIKE A
INSIDE OF A CAR, YOU STRIKE A
HARD DASHBOARD WITH PLUGS COMING
HARD DASHBOARD WITH PLUGS COMING
OUT FROM YOUR RADIO, A STEERING
OUT FROM YOUR RADIO, A STEERING
WHEEL THAT WILL NOT COLLAPSE
WHEEL THAT WILL NOT COLLAPSE
BECAUSE IT IMPALES YOU.
BECAUSE IT IMPALES YOU.
DOORS THAT WILL FLY OPEN ON THE
DOORS THAT WILL FLY OPEN ON THE
OCCASION OF A COLLISION, AND
OCCASION OF A COLLISION, AND
YOULL FOUL OUT OF THE CAR.
YOULL FOUL OUT OF THE CAR.
AND THATS ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH.
AND THATS ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH.
AND THE WOMEN LEANED FORWARD.
AND THE WOMEN LEANED FORWARD.
AND I MEAN, YOU COULD HEAR A PIN
AND I MEAN, YOU COULD HEAR A PIN
DROP.
DROP.
AND SO, WE DIDNT NEED THE
AND SO, WE DIDNT NEED THE
SPINNING WHEEL, YOU KNOW?
SPINNING WHEEL, YOU KNOW?
COME ON DOWN.
COME ON DOWN.
>> SPIPNNING WHEEL.
>> SPIPNNING WHEEL.
>> AND WE PROVED THAT WOMEN WERE
INTERESTED IN MORE THAN JUSTWERE
INTERESTED IN MORE THAN JUST
COVERED DIRS SEDED DISHES AND NE
COVERED DIRS SEDED DISHES AND NE
THAT THEY CARED -- WOMEN, WE
THAT THEY CARED -- WOMEN, WE
REALIZED, WE WERE READING MORE
REALIZED, WE WERE READING MORE
SECTIONS OF THE NEWSPAPER THAN
SECTIONS OF THE NEWSPAPER THAN
THEIR HUSBANDS.
THEIR HUSBANDS.
AND WE CERTAINLY DID, I THINK --
AND WE CERTAINLY DID, I THINK --
I THINK WE BROUGHT A SHOW TO
I THINK WE BROUGHT A SHOW TO
DAYTIME TELEVISION THAT THEY
DAYTIME TELEVISION THAT THEY
WANTED.
WANTED.
>> YOU FOUND YOUR OWN WAY
>> YOU FOUND YOUR OWN WAY
FORWARD.
FORWARD.
IT WAS GLORIOUS TO WATCH.
IT WAS GLORIOUS TO WATCH.
ITS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
ITS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THANK YOU, PHIL.
THANK YOU, PHIL.
>> MY PLEASURE.
