
English: 
Interviews today are mostly so boring, so conformed - and interchangeable. Just like here.
"We are absolutely proud to create workplaces in that region, which we think is very useful"
VW boss Herbert Diess boasts that VW has opened a factory in Xinjiang, China. And once again it's all about the most important thing in the world: jobs.
"But isn't Xinjiang something they don't want to be associated with, considering what the Chinese government is doing with weaker people...?"
"I can't judge it"
"But you know about it"
"I dont know what you are referring to"
VW doesn't know anything again. What about?
"You don't know anything about China's re-education camps for a million people in the west of the country, which are presented as educational centres within the framework of anti-terror measures? You don't know anything about that?
Now it is getting interesting! Herby, what do you think?

English: 
Interviews today are mostly so boring, so conformed - and interchangeable. Just like here.
"We are absolutely proud to create workplaces in that region, which we think is very useful"
VW boss Herbert Diess boasts that VW has opened a factory in Xinjiang, China. And once again it's all about the most important thing in the world: jobs.
"But isn't Xinjiang something they don't want to be associated with, considering what the Chinese government is doing with weaker people...?"
"I can't judge it"
"But you know about it"
"I dont know what you are referring to"
VW doesn't know anything again. What about?
"You don't know anything about China's re-education camps for a million people in the west of the country, which are presented as educational centres within the framework of anti-terror measures? You don't know anything about that?
Now it is getting interesting! Herby, what do you think?

German: 
Interviews sind heute meistens so langweilig,
so angepasst - und austauschbar.
So wie hier.
Jaja, VW-Chef Herbert Diess prahlt damit,
dass VW ein Werk in
Xinjiang in China eröffnet hat.
Und es geht mal wieder um das wichtigste auf
der
Welt: Arbeitsplätze.
VW weiß mal wieder nichts.
Wovon denn eigentlich?
Ui, jetzt wirds interessant!
Herby, was sagst du dazu?

English: 
"I am not aware of it"
We do. Herby, you should know that too - after all, VW has been involved in Xinjiang for quite some time.
In this video you can find out how Muslims are being systematically blocked in camps in China at the moment.
This is Xinjiang. Xinjiang is located in the northwest of China and is the largest and most sparsely populated region.
Until 1950, this region was not yet an integral part of China. Sometimes it belonged to Mongolia, later to Russia, sometimes it was even independent.
One change of power followed the next.
It was finally integrated into the People's Republic of China, but remained culturally relatively autonomous. Most of the inhabitants of the province were Muslim, and the largest ethnic group was the Uighurs.

English: 
"I am not aware of it"
We do. Herby, you should know that too - after all, VW has been involved in Xinjiang for quite some time.
In this video you can find out how Muslims are being systematically blocked in camps in China at the moment.
This is Xinjiang. Xinjiang is located in the northwest of China and is the largest and most sparsely populated region.
Until 1950, this region was not yet an integral part of China. Sometimes it belonged to Mongolia, later to Russia, sometimes it was even independent.
One change of power followed the next.
It was finally integrated into the People's Republic of China, but remained culturally relatively autonomous. Most of the inhabitants of the province were Muslim, and the largest ethnic group was the Uighurs.

German: 
Wir schon.
Herby, du solltest das eigentlich auch wissen
- VW mischt schließlich schon seit längerem
in Xinjiang mit.
Wie in China derzeit systematisch Muslime
in Lager gesperrt werden, das erfahrt ihr
in diesem Video.
Das hier ist Xinjiang.
Xinjiang liegt im Nordwesten Chinas und ist
die größte und am dünnsten besiedelte Region.
Bis 1950 war diese Region noch gar nicht fester
Teil Chinas.
Mal gehörte sie zur Mongolei, später zu
Russland, zwischendurch war sie sogar mal
eigenständig.
Ein Machtwechsel folgte dem nächsten.
Schließlich wurde sie dann in die Volksrepublik
China integriert, blieb aber kulturell verhältnismäßig
autonom.
Die meisten Bewohner der Provinz waren muslimisch
und die größte Volksgruppe waren die Uiguren.

German: 
Die Uiguren waren nach der Eingliederung zwar
alles andere als frei, wurden aber “nur
genauso” schlecht behandelt, wie alle anderen
Chinesen zu dieser Zeit auch.
Seitdem hat sich einiges getan, allein was
die Bevölkerungsstruktur angeht: 1954 hatten
die Uiguren noch einen Anteil von 75% an der
Bevölkerung Xinjiangs.
Gut 50 Jahre später liegt ihr Anteil nur
noch bei 45%.
Grund dafür ist die Zuwanderung einer anderen
Volksgruppe - der Han-Chinesen.
Anfangs war ihr Anteil nur etwa 6%, die Regierung
sorgte mit Umsiedlungen dafür, dass mittlerweile
fast jeder zweite Mensch in Xinjiang Han-Chinese
ist.
Die meisten Chinesen bekennen sich zu keiner
Religion, aber grundsätzlich hatte die Volksrepublik
China nichts gegen religiös Andersdenkende
- Zumindest dann, wenn sie die Kontrolle darüber
hatte.
Das hat sich in den letzten Jahren verändert.
Der feuchte Traum der chinesischen Regierung
sind konfessionslose Han-Chinesen, die treu

English: 
The Uighurs were anything but free after the integration, but were treated "just as badly" as all other Chinese at that time.
Since then, a lot has happened in terms of population structure alone: in 1954, the Uighurs still accounted for 75% of Xinjiang's population.
A good 50 years later, their share is only 45%. The reason for this is the immigration of another ethnic group - the Han Chinese.
In the beginning their share was only about 6%, but the government resettled almost every second person in Xinjiang to Han-Chinese.
Most Chinese do not profess any religion, but in principle the People's Republic of China had nothing against religiously dissenters - at least when it had control over them.
That has changed in recent years.

English: 
The Uighurs were anything but free after the integration, but were treated "just as badly" as all other Chinese at that time.
Since then, a lot has happened in terms of population structure alone: in 1954, the Uighurs still accounted for 75% of Xinjiang's population.
A good 50 years later, their share is only 45%. The reason for this is the immigration of another ethnic group - the Han Chinese.
In the beginning their share was only about 6%, but the government resettled almost every second person in Xinjiang to Han-Chinese.
Most Chinese do not profess any religion, but in principle the People's Republic of China had nothing against religiously dissenters - at least when it had control over them.
That has changed in recent years.

English: 
The wet dream of the Chinese government are non-denominational Han Chinese, who faithfully follow the government's course - and it wants a purely Chinese identity.
So the Uighurs and other Muslim communities are a thorn in the government's side.
And that's why it became active. The government found this with these headscarves and the long beards somewhat stupid:
an anti-Islam law now forbids long beards, headscarves, Muslim weddings and funerals. All this is now a "sign of religious extremism".
For years, the Xinjiang region has been being developed into a rigorous digital surveillance state - the reason given is the fight against terrorism.
Conversations are recorded, iris scanners installed and cameras on every corner try to identify and track Uighurs with face scans.
An artificial intelligence evaluates the images in order to be able to recognize Uighurs more and more effectively.
Passports were confiscated in order to get DNA samples of the people in exchange.

English: 
The wet dream of the Chinese government are non-denominational Han Chinese, who faithfully follow the government's course - and it wants a purely Chinese identity.
So the Uighurs and other Muslim communities are a thorn in the government's side.
And that's why it became active. The government found this with these headscarves and the long beards somewhat stupid:
an anti-Islam law now forbids long beards, headscarves, Muslim weddings and funerals. All this is now a "sign of religious extremism".
For years, the Xinjiang region has been being developed into a rigorous digital surveillance state - the reason given is the fight against terrorism.
Conversations are recorded, iris scanners installed and cameras on every corner try to identify and track Uighurs with face scans.
An artificial intelligence evaluates the images in order to be able to recognize Uighurs more and more effectively.
Passports were confiscated in order to get DNA samples of the people in exchange.

German: 
dem Kurs der Regierung folgen - und die will
eine rein chinesische Identität.
Die Uiguren und andere muslimische Volksgruppen
sind der Regierung also eher ein Dorn im Auge.
Und deswegen wurde sie aktiv.
Die Regierung fand das mit diesen Kopftüchern
und den langen Bärten irgendwie doof: Ein
Anti-Islam-Gesetz verbietet jetzt lange Bärte,
Kopftücher, muslimische Hochzeiten und Beerdigungen.
All das ist jetzt “Zeichen eines religiösen
Extremismus”.
Die Region Xinjiang wird seit Jahren zu einem
rigorosen digitalen Überwachungsstaat ausgebaut
- als Begründung wird der Kampf gegen Terrorismus
vorgeschoben.
Gespräche werden mitgeschnitten, Iris-Scanner
installiert und Kameras an jeder Ecke versuchen
Uiguren anhand von Gesichtsscans zu identifizieren
und zu verfolgen.
Eine künstliche Intelligenz wertet die Bilder
aus, um Uiguren immer effektiver erkennen
zu können.
Reisepässe wurden eingezogen, um im Tausch
an DNA-Proben der Menschen zu kommen.

English: 
What at first sounds "only" like a digital surveillance state is in reality much more through the focus on the Uighurs: a cruel oppression of religious minorities paired with racist artificial intelligence.
Since the beginning of 2017, Uighurs and other Muslim groups have had "voluntary training and education centres" -
at least that's the nice name the government has come up with - after hiding the "centres" for more than a year.
The governor of Xinjiang then had to improve the image a bit and called them boarding schools where the students can live and eat for free.
In reality these are neither boarding schools nor are they voluntary, but prisons.

German: 
Was sich erstmal “nur” nach einem digitalen
Überwachungsstaat anhört, ist durch den
Fokus auf die Uiguren in Wirklichkeit viel
mehr: Eine grausame Unterdrückung religiöser
Minderheiten gepaart mit rassistischer künstlicher
Intelligenz.
Seit Anfang 2017 gibt es für Uiguren und
andere muslimische Gruppen “freiwillige
Trainings- und Ausbildungszentren” - zumindest
ist das der nette Name, den sich die Regierung
hat einfallen lassen - also, nachdem sie die
“Zentren” mehr als ein Jahr lang verschwiegen
hat.
Der Gouverneur von Xinjiang musste dann das
Image ein bisschen aufhübschen und bezeichnete
sie als Internate, in denen die Schüler kostenlos
leben und essen können.
In Wirklichkeit sind das weder Internate noch
sind sie freiwillig, sondern Gefängnisse.
Etwa 1,5 Millionen Menschen werden darin misshandelt,
geschlagen und müssen unter menschenunwürdigen
Verhältnissen leben.
Sie werden gezwungen, den Islam aufzugeben
oder Mandarin zu lernen.

English: 
What at first sounds "only" like a digital surveillance state is in reality much more through the focus on the Uighurs: a cruel oppression of religious minorities paired with racist artificial intelligence.
Since the beginning of 2017, Uighurs and other Muslim groups have had "voluntary training and education centres" -
at least that's the nice name the government has come up with - after hiding the "centres" for more than a year.
The governor of Xinjiang then had to improve the image a bit and called them boarding schools where the students can live and eat for free.
In reality these are neither boarding schools nor are they voluntary, but prisons.

German: 
Wie hier:
Straflager oder Umerziehungslager wäre als
Name passender.
Der US-Außenminister Mike Pompeo hat die
Lager sogar mit deutschen Konzentrationslagern
verglichen.
Auch, wenn er gerne viel erzählt, wenn der
Tag lang ist.
Der Vergleich ist vielleicht ein bisschen
weit hergeholt - aber gerade als Deutscher
ist es doch ganz hilfreich, im Hinterkopf
zu behalten, was daraus noch so alles entstehen
kann.
Völkermord passiert in Xinjiang also nicht,
von der Auslöschung einer ganzen Kultur kann
man aber in jedem Fall sprechen.
Und die nimmt gerade richtig Fahrt auf.
Die Auswertung von Satellitenbildern zeigt:
Die schon vorhandenen Umerziehungslager wurden
ausgebaut und andere wurden neu eröffnet.
Wieder andere wurden an abgelegenere Orte
verlegt und erweitert.

English: 
About 1.5 million people are abused, beaten and forced to live in inhumane conditions. They are forced to give up Islam or learn Mandarin. Like here:
Punishment camp or re-education camp would be more appropriate as a name.
The US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo even compared the camps with German concentration camps. Even if he likes to talk a lot when the day is long.
The comparison is perhaps a bit far-fetched - but especially as a German it is very helpful to keep in mind what can still arise from it.
So genocide doesn't happen in Xinjiang, but you can talk about the extinction of an entire culture in any case.
And it's just picking up speed. The evaluation of satellite images shows: The already existing re-education camps were expanded and others were reopened.

English: 
About 1.5 million people are abused, beaten and forced to live in inhumane conditions. They are forced to give up Islam or learn Mandarin. Like here:
Punishment camp or re-education camp would be more appropriate as a name.
The US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo even compared the camps with German concentration camps. Even if he likes to talk a lot when the day is long.
The comparison is perhaps a bit far-fetched - but especially as a German it is very helpful to keep in mind what can still arise from it.
So genocide doesn't happen in Xinjiang, but you can talk about the extinction of an entire culture in any case.
And it's just picking up speed. The evaluation of satellite images shows: The already existing re-education camps were expanded and others were reopened.

English: 
Still others were moved to more remote locations and expanded. In addition, the satellite images reveal that mosques are being demolished in heaps.
But Xinjiang is probably not an isolated case - if you can even speak of it with 1.5 million people in at least 180 camps.
According to Deutschlandfunk correspondent Axel Dorloff, people of Muslim faith are to be identified, imprisoned and re-educated in other regions as well.
Chinese living abroad miss their Muslim relatives, who have suddenly disappeared. Such cases and the current situation make one think:
Will the government perhaps at some point decide to extend this to other religious and ethnic groups?
What dimensions do these atrocities take if other authoritarian states copy them?
It is absurd to have to ask these questions at all these days.
For years, human rights organisations have been denouncing the continuing violations of human rights.

German: 
Darüber hinaus verraten die Satellitenbilder,
dass haufenweise Moscheen abgerissen werden.
Xinjiang ist aber wohl kein Einzelfall - wenn
man bei 1,5 Millionen Menschen in mindestens
180 Lagern überhaupt davon sprechen kann.
Auch in anderen Regionen sollen laut Deutschlandfunk-Korrespondent
Axel Dorloff Menschen mit muslimischem Glauben
identifiziert, eingesperrt und umerzogen werden.
Chinesen, die im Ausland leben, vermissen
ihre muslimischen Angehörigen, die plötzlich
verschwunden sind.
Solche Fälle und die aktuelle Situation bringen
einen zum Nachdenken: Entscheidet sich die
Regierung vielleicht irgendwann dazu, das
auf andere religiöse und ethnische Gruppen
auszuweiten?
Welche Dimensionen nehmen diese Gräueltaten
an, wenn sich andere autoritäre Staaten davon
etwas abgucken?
Es ist absurd, dass man sich diese Fragen
in der heutigen Zeit überhaupt noch stellen
muss.
Seit Jahren prangern Menschenrechtsorganisationen
die anhaltenden Menschenrechtsverletzungen
an.
Human Rights Watch bezeichnet das Vorgehen
der chinesischen Regierung gegen die Uiguren

English: 
Still others were moved to more remote locations and expanded. In addition, the satellite images reveal that mosques are being demolished in heaps.
But Xinjiang is probably not an isolated case - if you can even speak of it with 1.5 million people in at least 180 camps.
According to Deutschlandfunk correspondent Axel Dorloff, people of Muslim faith are to be identified, imprisoned and re-educated in other regions as well.
Chinese living abroad miss their Muslim relatives, who have suddenly disappeared. Such cases and the current situation make one think:
Will the government perhaps at some point decide to extend this to other religious and ethnic groups?
What dimensions do these atrocities take if other authoritarian states copy them?
It is absurd to have to ask these questions at all these days.
For years, human rights organisations have been denouncing the continuing violations of human rights.

German: 
als das „weltweit größte vernachlässigte
Problem“.
Von muslimisch geprägten Ländern hörte
man sowas nicht.
Die Organisation für islamische Zusammenarbeit,
in der 57 Staaten organisiert sind, hat - nichts
unternommen - und das hat wohl mal wieder
finanzielle Gründe:
Viele Länder treiben engen Handel mit China.
Und weil China gerade ein riesiges Infrastruktur-
und Handelsnetz unter dem Namen “Neue Seidenstraße”
aufbaut, sind wohl viele nicht dazu bereit,
es sich wegen der Uiguren mit China zu verscherzen.
Und in der Zukunft auf eine Menge Geld zu
verzichten.
Auch VW leckt sich gierig die Finger bei der
Chance auf einen Absatzmarkt von 1,3 Milliarden
Chinesen.
Da baut man dann auch gerne mal ein Werk in
Xinjiang, wenn man von der chinesischen Regierung
die freundliche Empfehlung bekommt.
Menschenrechte sind eben verhandelbar.

English: 
Human Rights Watch describes the Chinese government's action against the Uighurs as "the world's biggest neglected problem".
Muslim-influenced countries were not heard to do so. The Organisation for Islamic Cooperation, in which 57 states are organised, has - done nothing - and that is probably for financial reasons again:
Many countries trade closely with China. And because China is currently building up a huge infrastructure and trade network under the name "New Silk Road",
many are probably not willing to make fun of China because of the Uighurs. And to do without a lot of money in the future.
VW also greedily licks its fingers at the opportunity of a sales market of 1.3 billion Chinese.
That is why one likes to build a plant in Xinjiang if one gets the friendly recommendation from the Chinese government.
Human rights are negotiable.

English: 
Human Rights Watch describes the Chinese government's action against the Uighurs as "the world's biggest neglected problem".
Muslim-influenced countries were not heard to do so. The Organisation for Islamic Cooperation, in which 57 states are organised, has - done nothing - and that is probably for financial reasons again:
Many countries trade closely with China. And because China is currently building up a huge infrastructure and trade network under the name "New Silk Road",
many are probably not willing to make fun of China because of the Uighurs. And to do without a lot of money in the future.
VW also greedily licks its fingers at the opportunity of a sales market of 1.3 billion Chinese.
That is why one likes to build a plant in Xinjiang if one gets the friendly recommendation from the Chinese government.
Human rights are negotiable.
