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back into it the next one is vision and
execution of that vision so here is my
thought on this and this actually just
comes from my recent listening to the
tracks that you gave me mm-hmm all right
is I'd obviously this the story of
Prince is he had a vision and he
definitely executed that that stuff
there you know he was like I'm coming in
here I'm gonna make music my life I want
to produce myself as soon as my record
company you know I want to sign a deal
that's gonna make me I want to get
Paisley Park boom Warner Brothers paid
for Paisley Park you know now I want
another deal that's gonna make me the
most money that anybody has ever made oh
I don't like that deal now so I want out
of it so I'm gonna do a bunch of stuff
that's gonna make me a giant you know so
it's like it now I'm emancipated now I
can just do whatever I want and he
definitely started executing his vision
when he could just literally have any
vision he wanted you know and there was
nobody limiting him and this this was
the biggest thing that I took away from
the tracks because what ended up
happening was when I was downloading the
tracks that you gave me I downloaded
jailhouse rock but I didn't download the
album version I downloaded a one that he
did later on in his career a live
version oh okay
okay and right before and it was good
like it sounded amazing but right before
so so we're talking about a performance
of one of his earlier hits but later on
in his life and the track starts off
with well we're gonna have to sing this
one eventually so
get into it oh I know I think I know
which one yes it was during the
production of his TV special he was
playing he play around if you watch all
the footage he plays around I get and I
get that
so and I get that he might he might have
just been playing around but the
difference between that versus what
Prince would do is in the middle of a
concert Prince would stop and he would
just start playing a bunch of his hits
and the crowd would go wild he would
just play like a medley and then
eventually he would say I got too many
hits we don't be here all night you know
and to me that's a stark difference in
the vision and the execution of that
vision you know cuz from Prince's
standpoint all of these things that from
his entire career they were all those
gems like and even if he didn't play
them you know entirely or he didn't play
them as often as he would anytime he
pulled that out he's like here's a hit
here's a hit here the hit everybody
having a fun time you know it was never
like I again and like you said Elvis was
playing around and whatnot but is it the
moment that I listened to that I was
just like oh okay so like he he's almost
like some of those artists that get
later on in their careers and they're
they start to hate their earlier hits
you know what I mean yeah so that's so
that was my that was what I was bringing
to this conversation you tell me tell me
your your side of it like vision and
execution of that vision who was Colonel
Tom Parker his manager
I felt like shot down his vision a lot I
felt like he should have he had him
almost his whole career Elvis is almost
old career from 1955 all wait is death
in 77 okay I think he should have left
him probably in the early 60s because he
limited him so much the big the biggest
star at the time Elvis you know he never
toured the world ever oh wow yeah it's
correct the only time he left he left
the country was when he was in the
service serving a military from 5860 and
it turns out later on this is just an
example when he returned the perform of
full time after all the movies he really
wish people act so when you're gonna
tour the whole world
you know like tour Europe Japan all that
stuff and it always got shot down
because turns out his manager came to
his country illegally from Norway it
seemed like every time Elvis got excited
I'm ideal like where he's not another
example a star is born hell doesn't
really want to do that role but his his
manager was always about the money
everything was about the money an
estimate aureus and neset aureus about
Elvis's manager and not a lot of people
like him even in the elvis world he
wanted to do something i feel like in a
lot of ways he couldn't do it mr. price
wasn't like but sometimes it's not about
the price you know yeah yeah and it's
about you know maybe doing something and
feeling good after you did it and Elvis
felt the best about it with the 68
comeback special and that actually
almost went another way too but thank
God it didn't be the other right people
on his side saying look I've got to do
this way so as far as I his vision and
the execution of it I feel like he he he
was limited and it's a it really is sad
to say it almost sounds like he had like
he had a good vision but the execution
half of that it never came to fruition
yeah he I think he Elvis was a little
bit naive when it came to his manager I
think he always felt like he owed
something to him like because he really
you know made him huge and just never
left him and by the time Elvis passed
away he was taking some l was just a
bank to him by the end of his life
really and it really is sad and if you
ever watch another documentary to watch
it's very thorough some people say you
know it's okay but I I enjoyed that
documentary was called Elvis the
searcher it was on HBO I recommend
watching that I have HBO I will go home
that as far as Prince goes oh my god
the guy whatever you wanted to do he did
it he didn't care people liked it in
that I mean it's just a truth that's why
I liked Prince as a matter of fact
I think he preferred it when people
didn't like it exactly that's how he was
I think he was I think he was very good
at that he deserved he deserves a point
and Prince gets the point
all right we have three we have three
more sections so we're almost done here
the next one is fashion this is
technically your one to start off but
I'm gonna say because I just started off
the vision one but I will say right up
front and I think this this this kind of
comes with comparing two people from
like two completely different times
right like this is a weird comparison
it's different if you like comparing
Michael Jackson and Prince because they
were contemporaries they were at the
same time that's a lot easier to do than
you know somebody who was the who was
the star but was the star it was a 2530
years earlier you know what I mean
yep so but I just want I just want to
state that for the record is that we are
trying to take that into account like
the fashion what was his impact on
fashion and stuff at that time like yes
Prince is more flamboyant and whatnot but
we kind of need to we need to have it in
some sort of category because otherwise
prince would just win everyday you know
so yeah so tell me tell me some about
like Elvis's impact on fashion I think
impact on fashion is huge rates are
similar in a way they both you know they
both were custom stuff I mean I almost
think they haven't made it his house but
you know custom stuff all the time and
that's my you know I never been to
Paisley Park yet I really want to go oh
my gosh and ironically enough you know
the people who run Graceland run Paisley
Park I think yes it's the same company
yeah yes my favorite I've been to
Graceland three times my favorite part
of seeing Graceland is his fashion when
people think of El was they think of his
fashion
do you think of the jumpsuits you know
the big buckles the tassels and the
reactants the scarves so I I mean I know
I gotta save me a guy the guy was a
pre-fly yeah a good a good fashion you
like paisley print ooh yeah he had a lot
of Paisley stuff you wore to this day I
know that's of his era
so you so you were definitely so you
would give that one to Elvis yes I
definitely would I mean I may be wrong
Prince did stuff that people wouldn't
dare I mean no one no one could pull off
you know eels and bikini underwear in a
trench coat no one else can do that but
him I say that my videos I think what I
was showing there before the rain yes
before the rain I said it in that mine I
was shown the book I said no one else
can do this yeah so that video was
actually how I found you which if you
didn't know that yeah I said oh my gosh
prince's friend noticed me so everybody
go subscribe to Johnny's channel so
anyway so from a from a fashion
standpoint I think you're I think you
are correct when it comes to Prince
the thing about Prince is that he never
I don't think he ever set any actual
fashion trends and I think I said this
in my video that was the prince versus
Michael Jackson is that what Prince
would do is he he wasn't somebody who
influenced popular fashion like fashion
for the masses but what he taught what
he popularized was more fashion
designers and stuff like that like like
he was friends with Versace and like you
Donatella Versace and stuff like that
and like a lot of the stuff that he
would do was more like what you would
see on the runway and not what a normal
person would wear so for me I would
probably say I would probably still give
it to friends but that's just that might
be a personal thing you know but I think
for me because he was so always
counterculture and everything that he
would do in terms of fashion so that's
the thing right as the Prince was always
trying to figure out what was gonna be
the next hot thing but I wouldn't
necessarily say that his personal
fashion ever really made an impact on
pop culture fashion does that make sense
it makes sense basically no Elvis see
not even just fashion is closed and I
think a fashion I think your hair and
everything like yeah you know the
slicked-back hair Elvis the big
sideburns you know everyone did that you
know the duck tail yeah look well I mean
that's the thing right it's like Prince
was definitely fashionable but does that
translate to having a larger impact on
fashion you know what I'm think I might
take it back I think I might give this
one to Elvis yes all right so this is
the one that normally Prince wins who is
more prolific I don't know all of you
know Elvis's back catalogs and stuff
like that like I obviously Prince
normally when's this category how much
stuff he produced and put out yeah just
like stuff he put out how much you know
b-sides movies you know projects
everything so like the 33 movies that
counts towards prolific like like I
can't you mean that time that he spent
filming those he could have recorded
another album so I say that that was
count that's true so he really did
recorded another album pretty much every
time he did a movie I all had one Bashi
his did his last his last movie the
concert movie Elvis on tour that wasn't
supported by a soundtrack but so you
know that's 31 soundtracks right there
and but during his lifetime he released
I want to say approximately 711 tracks
during his lifetime 711 Wow 711 yes I
think that's including the ones from the
movies yes yes okay but see they all had
about a dozen songs which is about wait
you know what I'm probably way off I
just did the man through my head no that
can't be right
but but some of the work some of them
were eat someone worry Pease like the
smaller version 245 with like no true
well I mean and this is another
discussion kind of about the times right
is back in that time a lot of that stuff
would be released on 7 inch vinyl and it
would be like here's two songs and then
they'll ride that for like months yeah
flooded the market with stuff like he
would come out with like yeah like
Prince you know principal due to a year
I mean just I mean just like how I feel
about Prince like every time he came out
with a release oh my gosh I would
anticipate the next one right away I'm
like oh my gosh can we for the next one
oh yeah and I'm sure if I was around
hopefuls around I'm like oh my gosh
I can't wait for the next one I mean you
come out about three or four was a year
usually three or four like the the small
EP albums a year I would say he has
about 80 albums during his life Wow
but not necessarily full albums but
releases right main releases are we
counting live ones in there too and
stuff like that wow that's ridiculous
so if Prince usually wins because even
if the other person released more he's
got the fault right but if we take the
volume out of the equation
I think Prince I don't know the exact
numbers like you did I should have
probably stocked up but he had 39 studio
albums he had um I think it was really
just like three or four live albums he
didn't release that many live albums but
he had a bunch of soundtracks he had a
bunch of zayed albums like side projects
then it's a matter of for Prince you
need to be can't just count Prince stuff
we have to count his time stuff his
vanity six stuff is Apollonia 6 stuff is
madhouse stuff is you know so like his
new power generation stuff so you know
if you start piling it all on with
everything that he did not just the
stuff with the name
sonot but everything else it becomes and
it becomes an almost unsurmountable
thing to fight but it sounds like Elvis
is putting up a pretty good fight I
don't know man what do you think I see
we tied on me I think we tie you know I
think we tie it we've done it before
let's do it again okay so then the last
category is being able to execute great
covers so I don't actually know like
what kind of cool covers I didn't
actually look into that that wasn't any
of the songs you gave me or any Elvis
covers but can you tell me some cool
songs that Elvis might have covered and
and what you think about is execution of
those songs
we got later on his career in the Senate
like I feel like 69 when he started
returning to the studio full time after
all the movies he really became like an
adult contemporary artists we covered a
lot of songs even in his earlier career
like you know hound dog isn't his
original version you know that right no
what do you mean he didn't oh well he's
not the original singer of hound dog no
I did not know that yeah as a blues
singer a Big Mama Thornton she listened
to that version it's a good version to
many many of his songs actually he
covers a lot of people blue suede shoes
a lot a lot of old blues songs that
people unless you're really really deep
in like old rhythm and blues like in the
30s and 40s early 50s he covered a lot
of really rhythm and blues songs like
miss clawdy he was very good sometimes
he made it made you forget he you know
he's not the original singer that's like
oh you mean this person that like nicely
shoes blue suede shoes is a perfect
example which is cut as a Carl Perkins
song he's that's a perfect example
everyone forgets that Carl Perkins did
that and it became out with the song
hound dog - like a hound dog is probably
his biggest hit in the 50s it sold like
6 million copies when it came in it was
a cover yeah yeah I mean Elvis I think
he was very good at making covers his
own I think that that sounds rude I mean
you know I didn't even realize that
Elvis had done so many covers like that
that kind
eliminates the the you know the fighting
the battlefield here it's like it makes
it much more difficult now see Prince
Prince was a little bit different
because the way that Warner Brothers
marketed him was as a singer-songwriter
and when he wanted to do covers they did
not let him to covers yeah and like and
everybody and their mom would be
covering a prince song but Prince had to
have original stuff on all of his albums
that's why the the first album that he
was no longer with orner Brothers he had
like six covers on there cuz he's like
I've been waiting to do these so I think
that that is pretty cool also though
because he couldn't do it in a studio he
would do a lot of his covers on stage
where he would cover Rolling Stones he
would cover stink I heard him cover
sting ones but he would cover tons of
people some of his biggest songs
nowadays are covers like the fact that
he did the while my guitar gently weeps
you know guitar solo when he did creep
at Coachella you know when he did best
of you at the Super Bowl and nobody knew
that that wasn't him you know what I
mean like they were just like oh I've
never heard that Prince song before it
is just like like it was funny too
because I saw an interview with Dave
Grohl and Dave Grohl was even like he
didn't ask us to do that so I'm watching
the Super Bowl and like he's covering
our song you know like it's pretty cool
you know Prince has done those are just
the live ones but he's done you know on
record he's done a bunch of them every
day is a winding road I can't make you
love me
betcha by golly wow he did crimson and
clover just a bunch of different covers
and every time I listen to the song and
I'm like that is an amazing song and
then you find out that it's a cover near
like I would have never guessed who
would you give it to oh man you're
always throwing the decision at me I'm
gonna throw it at you this time
because I think I think my decision
would be that it would be Prince and I
would say for me I think also it's a
matter of because he didn't it wasn't
necessarily because I'm covering a song
you know for hits or for money and you
know whatever you know for Prince it was
kind of exploring music and I want to
try this song out and see what I can do
with it and I want to try this one out
and see what I can do with it I want to
see how the crowd reacts to it like
whenever he would cover a song it was
almost like like it was playtime for
Prince you know what I mean it was it
was like how can I take this and twist
it into something that no one's ever
seen before that's how I've always
interpreted his covers of songs seems
like that Prince would always experiment
with them you know he wouldn't
necessarily put them an album you know
Elvis put him on all his albums every
album has a cover you know every at
least one sometimes at least four you
know this huge like I said miss by his
later work especially in the 70s he was
just like an adult contemporary artist
really right no he did he did oldest
some big songs like the first time ever
I saw your face and you know all those
songs so he was like Michael Bolton oh
god no cuz that's like all of Michael
Bolton's big songs are covers like all
of his biggest hits they're all covers I
don't want to agree with I don't I don't
mean it as an insult I when I think
adult contemporary person whose biggest
hits or covers I think Michael Bolton so
so what you're saying is that you would
give it to Elvis yes I don't think that
Prince he made it his own but not like
making his own to be like I'm gonna put
it out and become a big hit you know I'm
saying and I'm Elvis didn't necessarily
do that neither but he would I think
that Prince are doing more for the joy
of it yes sense yes
Elvis you know did it yeah he probably
enjoyed it too but he he
he did it to fill an album also you know
but I mean discipline it this way I mean
I know that Elvis has more covers and
Prince does you know yeah definitely and
definitely and and and like I said
there's a few songs that were released
and we're hits and you and Elvis made
you forget who the original singer was
like oh my gosh that's definitely true
yeah that's a hard one but no I think I
would probably give it to Prince I think
I would give it to Prince and if you are
your hardened and you're like I'm gonna
give it to Elvis I think we end up with
a with another tie I'm not gonna like I
do want to give it to all this okay I
love Prince's covers though but Elvis
you know he really always made you
forget that you know oh that artists on
that he's a lot of songs like that and
Wow like yeah I mean like like I knew
what's her name
- what if God was one of us what's right
yeah John John Osbourne I knew whose
song that song before Prince did it but
Prince did awesome job too though but
yeah I don't think he as awesome as
Prince's I don't think he made you
forget the original artist even with
crimson and clover I always knew that
was an old song I'm really firm what
Elvis man I think it's I think it's a
slightly different thing as well though
right because when Prince has been doing
these covers he's not he is he is like
almost purposefully covering these big
songs that you obviously know who did it
like you know crimson and clover like
yeah like he didn't even do the original
version he did like the Jimi Hendrix
version that everyone knows you know
Joan Osborne's one of us was such a big
hit in the mid 90s that you know you
could cover it and you could totally
have a much better version but people
are still gonna like know the original
version I think it's also again kind of
the constraints of the age right because
we're kind of more in the animation age
you know so it does become slightly
thing so my vote would go for Prince
your votes for Elvis which would gives
us another tie which I'm fine with
so it's six for Elvis and
7 for Prince so that is what we ended up
with which means Prince wins which which
is fair like oh my gosh you know and I
think it was less hard for me but just
just being honest here is less hard for
me but what but what I enjoy about this
sort of exchange is being able to I
learned a lot about Elvis and it makes
me want to go and check out more about
Elvis like yes that's the cool thing for
me personally being a prince you know
being a prince friend and being able to
talk to somebody who also knows Prince
but also knows a little bit more about
this other really iconic legendary
performer that I then get to learn like
so you're you're like my teacher here so
that's nice yeah and you opened my eyes
to watching your channel like he made me
appreciate stuff more I think like to
come out I never really cared for it and
then when you broke it down I'm like you
know what I appreciate it more and I
went back listen I'm like okay now I
understand Prince's friend made me
understand oh you're really good at
doing that like you're very thorough and
breaking stuff down and giving you a
point of view I like them well I
appreciate that I appreciate it so with
that said Prince wins
so fanfare fanfare but just by a sliver
though it was that was that was really
difficult but thank you Johnny for being
here
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