AND HIS CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT 
WITH PREMIERS ON HOW OTTAWA CAN 
HELP WORK WITH PROVINCES TO 
COORDINATE THAT AND TO DO MORE 
OF THAT.
WE KNOW, OF COURSE, TESTING AND 
TRACING ARE SO KEY WHEN IT COMES
TO CONTAINING THE SPREAD OF 
COVID-19, ESPECIALLY AS YOU SAW 
THERE WITH NEW BRUNSWICK, AS WE 
START TO REOPEN MORE AND MORE OF
THE ECONOMIES EVERY DAY.
.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU STATS NOW, IF
I CAN, THAT MY PRODUCER PHIL PUT
TOGETHER FOR ME THAT REALLY 
PAINT AN IMPORTANT PICTURE, I 
THINK, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING -- 
WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY IN TERMS OF THE 
PROVINCES OF QUEBEC AND ONTARIO.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE 
STATISTICS THERE, THERE ARE MORE
THAN 1100 POSITIVE CASES IN 
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO, IN THE WHOLE
REST OF THE COUNTRY, JUST TO 
GIVE YOU A WHOLE SENSE OF THIS, 
THERE ARE 49 POSITIVE CASES OF 
COVID-19 IN THE WHOLE REST OF 
THE COUNTRY.
NOW, PART OF THIS IS OF COURSE 
POPULATION SIZE, THE SHEER SIZE 
OF THE PROVINCE.
PART OF IT IS ALSO HOW TESTING 
HAS UNFOLDED IN QUEBEC AND 
ONTARIO.
SO LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THAT 
LOOKS LIKE.
WE'LL START IN QUEBEC.
WHERE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 
TESTED ON TUESDAY -- WE'LL HEAR 
FROM ONTARIO.
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TESTED ON 
WEDNESDAY WAS JUST OVER 10,500.
THE GOAL, REMEMBER, ON A DAILY 
BASIS PREMIER DOUG FORD HAS SAID
IS TO BE 20,000.
AND 10,000 WAS ACTUALLY A HIGH 
NUMBER FOR THIS WEEK.
LET ME SHOW YOU HOW THEY ARE 
DOING IN QUEBEC WHEN IT COMES TO
TESTING IN RELATION TO WHAT 
THEIR GOAL IS, CLOSING IN ON 
11,500, AND THEIR GOAL THERE 
DAILY HAS BEEN 14,000 WHICH THEY
HAVE NOT YET HIT ONCE.
SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT 
SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT, 
WHILE SOME PROVINCES ARE DOING A
REALLY GOOD JOB AT TESTING AND 
TRACING, AND KEEPING THEIR CASE 
COUNT DOWN, THE PROVINCES THAT 
STILL HAVE THE MOST CASES AND 
THE MOST DEATHS ARE STRUGGLING 
WITH GETTING THAT TESTING AND 
TRACING NUMBERS UP.
REMEMBER THAT QUEBEC ACCOUNTS 
FOR MORE THAN HALF OF THE CASES 
IN ALMOST 60% OF THE DEATHS IN 
THIS COUNTRY.
MOSTLY, OF COURSE, DUE TO 
LONG-TERM CARE DEATHS.
BUT STILL, THIS IS A CHALLENGE 
THAT THE PRIME MINISTER WANTED 
TO SPEAK TO THE PREMIERS ABOUT 
YESTERDAY.
AND I'LL BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES,
THE HOST OF POWER AND POLITICS, 
VASSY KAPELOS, AND THE CBC'S 
CATHERINE CULLEN TO HELP TALK A 
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
THOSE STATISTICS, WHEN YOU LOOK 
AT THEM AND YOU SEE WHAT THE 
TARGETS ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE 
DOING AND HOW THERE HAS BEEN 
EVEN WORSE -- MUCH WORSE DAYS IN
ONTARIO, BEFORE THAT, IT DOES 
SHOW, I THINK, IN A REALLY 
CONCRETE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE TO
IMPROVE, AND THAT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS WILLING TO DO 
WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY TO GET 
THESE TWO BIG PROVINCES AT -- 
WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, 
ESSENTIALLY, VASSY. 
>> I THINK IT ALSO RAISES 
QUESTIONS FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO LIVE IN BOTH ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC ABOUT THE ROLL-OUT PLAN 
OR THE PHASED-OUT APPROACH TO 
REOPENING THE ECONOMY.
IN BOTH PROVINCES, IT'S KICKED 
OFF -- AND I'LL USE A COUPLE 
EXAMPLES.
MAYORS PATRICK BROWN AND BONNIE 
CROMBIE, BOTH MAYORS OF CITIES 
WITHIN THE GTA, WHERE 60% OF THE
CASES IN ONTARIO EXIST RIGHT 
NOW, HAVE HEARD FROM THEIR CHIEF
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL, WHO SAYS
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE 
REOPENING, I THINK IT'S GOING TO
TOO QUICKLY, SEEING THE SPREAD 
OF THE VIRUS IN THIS REGION 
RIGHT NOW.
THE HARDEST PART -- OR THE 
BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT THEY HAVE
IS THAT DR. DAVID WILLIAMS, FOR 
EXAMPLE, WHO HEADS UP PUBLIC 
HEALTH FOR ONTARIO, IS ADMITTING
THAT THEY AREN'T ABLE TO AT THIS
POINT FIGURE OUT THE SOURCE OF 
COMMUNITY SPREAD.
THERE STILL IS COMMUNITY SPREAD.
IT ISN'T COMPLETELY ISOLATED TO 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, FOR 
EXAMPLE, AND THEY CAN'T FIGURE 
OUT WHAT THE SOURCE OF THAT 
SPREAD IS AT THIS POINT.
SO THESE MAYORS ARE OPENLY 
QUESTIONING WHETHER THINGS ARE 
GOING TO TOO QUICKLY BECAUSE OF 
WHAT THEY'RE HEARING FROM THEIR 
OWN REGIONS, FROM PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS THERE.
NOW, CONTRAST THAT WITH PREMIER 
STEPHEN MCNEIL IN NOVA SCOTIA 
WHERE THERE ARE FAR FEWER CASES,
FAR LESS COMMUNITY SPREAD, THEY 
HAVE SO FAR IDENTIFIED THE 
MAJORITY OF THE SOURCES OF 
COMMUNITY SPREAD.
THEY STILL HAVEN'T EVEN BROACHED
THE REOPENING OF THEIR ECONOMY.
THEY DON'T PLAN TO DO SO UNTIL 
SOMETIME IN JUNE.
THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ISOLATED A 
SPECIFIC DAY, AND THE PREMIER 
SAYS THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP 
AND HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN AGAIN.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN TO A 
CERTAIN DEGREE IN OTHER 
JURISDICTIONS, AND I THINK THAT 
SORT OF UNDERSCORES EXACTLY WHAT
YOU LAID OUT WITH THOSE 
STATISTICS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE ARE
NUMBERS, THERE ARE PEOPLE, THEY 
ALSO I THINK WILL INFORM THE 
PLANS THAT PROVINCES HAVE TO 
REOPEN, AND I KNOW THERE'S GREAT
ECONOMIC PRESSURE, PARTICULARLY,
OF COURSE, IN ONTARIO AND
QUEBEC, SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT 
OF SUFFERING ECONOMICALLY SINCE 
THINGS SHUT DOWN.
THE FEAR EXISTS, AND MAYORS ARE 
OPENLY TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT 
THE SPEED AT WHICH THIS IS 
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW COULD FORCE 
THINGS TO GET EVEN WORSE IN THE 
FUTURE, AND ESPECIALLY AROUND 
THAT CONVERSATION, FOR EXAMPLE, 
WHERE A SECOND WAVE IS 
CONCERNED, THAT COULD BE A 
PARTICULAR CONCERN IN ONTARIO 
AND QUEBEC AS WELL.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS TESTING 
AND TRACING COMES INTO PLAY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, BASED ON 
THE CONVERSATION THAT THE 
PREMIERS HAD WITH THE PRIME 
MINISTER, THAT THE SORT OF 
TENSION POINTS IN THE 
CONVERSATION EXIST PRIMARILY 
AROUND ONTARIO AND QUEBEC AS 
WELL.
IT ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN ASK FROM 
OTHER PROVINCES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THE FEDS SAY WE'LL BANK ROLL IT.
THEY HAD A BIG CONVERSATION LAST
WEEK.
NOT A LOT OF PLANS PUT FORWARD 
FROM PROVINCES IN THE MEANTIME.
NOW THEY HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT 
PROVINCES NEED, AND PRIMARILY 
THOSE ARE FROM PROVINCES THAT 
ARE ALREADY DOING A PRETTY GOOD 
JOB OF PARTICULARLY TESTING, 
ALTHOUGH TRACING CAPABILITY 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY NEEDS TO 
IMPROVE, BUT ONTARIO AND QUEBEC 
CONTINUE TO BE PRESSURE POINTS 
IN THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. 
>> Suhana: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD 
SUMMARY OF WHERE THAT'S AT, 
PARTICULARLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU
HAVE THE PREMIER OF QUEBEC BEING
ASKED -- WELL, LISTEN, YOU'RE 
NOT DOING WELL.
WHY ARE YOU STILL MOVING FORWARD
WITH REOPENING PARTS OF 
MONTREAL -- THE ISLAND OF THE 
MONTREAL, FOR INSTANCE?
AND HE SAYS, WELL, I'M A BIT 
IMPATIENT ABOUT THE TESTING, BUT
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHY THERE 
IS SUCH IMPATIENCE, CATHERINE, 
AND I'LL BRING YOU IN, BECAUSE 
WE HEARD THE SAME FROM THE 
PREMIER OF ONTARIO, WHEN THERE 
ALSO SEEMS TO BE A SOLUTION ON 
THE TABLE.
MAYBE I'M MISREADING WHAT THE 
CONVERSATION IS BETWEEN THE FEDS
AND THE PROVINCES, BUT IT SEEMS 
LIKE THIS IS SOLVABLE, SO I'M 
NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE'RE IN 
THIS POSITION IN THE TWO -- IN 
THESE TWO PROVINCES. 
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT AN A FEW 
THINGS, PERHAPS FIRST 
CONTRASTING ONTARIO AND QUEBEC.
YOU'RE RIGHT, FRANCOIS LEGAULT 
WAS SAYING I'M IMPATIENT TO SEE 
MORE TESTS.
AT THE SAME TIME HE IS BRISTING
A BIT AT THE CRITICISM.
HE DID SAY HE FEELS THE TESTING 
LEVEL RIGHT NOW IS GOOD, BUT IT 
COULD BE BETTER.
YOU SAW THE NUMBERS, QUEBEC IS A
FEW THOUSANDS TESTS PER DAY FROM
WHERE IT WOULD LIKE TO BE, AS 
OPPOSED TO ONTARIO, WHERE THE 
LATEST NUMBERS WERE AT HALF.
DOUG FORD, YOU HAVE HIM BANG 
THIS IS DRUM WEEK AFTER WEEK, 
OBSESSED WITH TESTING, I'M GOING
TO BE AN 800-POUND GORILLA ON 
THE BACKS OF THESE OFFICIALS 
TRYING TO GET THIS DONE SO WHY 
ARE WE NOT SEEING HIGHER 
NUMBERS?
I WAS SPEAKING TO DR. ISAAC 
BOGOCH YESTERDAY, INFECTIOUS 
DISEASE EXPERT IN TORONTO, HE 
SAID THERE ARE A FEW FACTORS 
HERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 
QUEBEC ACKNOWLEDGES AS WELL IN 
TERMS OF WHY THIS TESTING ISN'T 
HAPPENING.
PART OF IT IS EQUIPMENT, THAT 
THERE ARE STILL SOME SHORTFALLS,
AND WE SEE THIS IN THE 
DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE PRIME 
MINISTER AND THE PREMIERS, THAT 
PART OF WHAT IS ON OFFER IS LAB 
CAPACITY, THE PHYSICAL 
EQUIPMENT, ALSO PERSONNEL WHEN 
IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE CONTACT 
TRACING AND WHATNOT, JUST THE 
STUFF TO GET THIS DONE, THE 
OTHER HALF OF THE EQUATION, 
THOUGH, IS GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO
BE TESTED.
DR. BOGOCH SAID PERHAPS IT'S NOT
CLEAR TO PEOPLE AT THIS TIME 
THAT THEY CAN GO OUT AND GET 
TESTED, CERTAINLY IN THE 
BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC, THE 
OPENING WEEKS.
THERE WERE STRICTER CRITERIA 
ABOUT WHO COULD BE TESTED, 
PEOPLE DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW 
THAT THEY COULD GET A TEST, SO 
HE REALLY ENCOURAGES BROAD 
COMMUNICATION THAT PEOPLE CAN BE
TESTED, DOUG FORD GOING A BIT 
FURTHER THAN THAT AND SAYING WE 
HAVE TO GO OUT AND START 
TESTING.
HE TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT THE 
PROSPECT OF RANDOM TESTING, 
ABOUT TESTING IN PARTICULAR 
NEIGHBOURHOODS WHERE THERE ARE 
HOT SPOTS, LIMO DRIVERS, UBER 
DRIVERS, PEOPLE IN THE FOOD 
SERVICES SECTOR, PEOPLE IN THE 
AUTO SECTOR.
HE HAS TOLD OFFICIALS HE WANTS 
TO SEE A NEW PLAN, HE'S 
PROMISING TO FOLKS THERE WILL BE
SOMETHING COMING ON TESTING AS 
OF ABOUT MONDAY, BUT CERTAINLY 
HE'S PITCHING SOMETHING MUCH 
BROADER.
FEDERAL OFFICIALS ARE SAYING 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE HEARD IT 
FROM THE PRIME MINISTER 
YESTERDAY, FINANCIAL CONCERNS, 
LOGISTICAL CONCERNS, HE THIS 
SHOULD NOT BE WHAT'S DRIVING 
THIS.
THIS IS A MAJOR PRIORITY AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT SOUNDS
LIKE REALLY ALL OFFICIALS WHO 
ARE GETTING THROUGH THE CAMERAS 
AND TALKING ABOUT THIS WANT 
EVERYONE TO DO BETTER. 
>> Rosemary: REALLY INTERESTING 
CONTEXT THERE AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU BOTH FOR 
JUST A MOMENT, IF YOU DON'T 
MIND.
WE ARE EXPECTING THE PRIME 
MINISTER AS WELL TO HIGHLIGHT 
SOME OF THE AID PACKAGES THAT 
HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD FOR THE 
GOVERNMENT, AND OF COURSE WE 
KNOW THERE ARE MANY BUSINESSES 
THAT HAVE BEEN HURTING DURING 
THE PANDEMIC.
ONE OF THEM IS ONLIED BY OUR 
NEXT GUEST, MIKE MODEROS.
HE'S A MUSHROOM FARMER AND JOINS
ME FROM OSGOOD, A RURAL PART OF 
ONTARIO.
HI, MIKE, HOW ARE YOU DOING.
MARK, SORRY. 
>> HEY, AND YOURSELF?
MIKE.
>> Rosemary: SORRY, IT SAID ONE 
THING BEFORE AND ONE THING 
AFTER.
I THOUGHT I WOULD SEE YOU 
OUTSIDE WITH THE MUSHROOMS, 
MIKE, BUT YOU'RE INSIDE.
TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO 
YOUR PRODUCTION SINCE THIS 
BEGAN. 
>> SO ONCE THE RESTAURANTS WERE 
ALL CLOSED DOWN, THAT WAS 
BASICALLY 40% OF OUR PRODUCTION.
SO WITH THE MUSHROOM INDUSTRY, 
YOU'RE 7 WEEKS BEFORE YOU CAN 
MAKE CHANGE.
THEY SAY 7 WEEKS OF PRODUCTION 
BEFORE YOU CAN START CUTTING 
BACK OR MAKING CHANGES, 
NECESSARY CHANGES.
SO ONCE THAT HAPPENED, WE HAVE 
TO FIND NEW HOMES FOR ALL THE 
PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE PRODUCING, 
WHICH WAS VERY TOUGH.
THEY GAVE A LOT OF MUSHROOMINGS 
AWAY FOR SOUP KITCHENS, FOOD 
BANKS IN OTTAWA AND MONTREAL TO 
HELP OFF SET THE LOSS.
SOME OF THE ROOMS ON THE SECOND 
FLUSH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HARVEST
IT.
WE HAD TO BASICALLY GET RID OF 
IT.
SO WE PUT IN EXTRA PRODUCTION IN
OUR FRIDGE.
NOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE 
RETAIL SECTOR HAS PICKED UP AND 
HAS HELPED A LOT, SO MORE PEOPLE
ARE COOKING AT HOME, WHICH YOU 
CAN SEE THAT ON PEOPLE TWEETING 
AND ON FACEBOOK, THEY'RE COOKING
MORE, THEY'RE MAKING PIZZAS AND 
WHAT NOT, BUT A LOT MORE 
MUSHROOMS BEING CONCERNED 
RETAILWISE NOW.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOUR 
PACKAGING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT, 
YOU'RE BASICALLY HARVESTING ALL 
THE MUSHROOMS IN SMALL PACKAGES,
8-OUNCE PACKAGES, VERSUS A 
FIVE-POUND BOX WHICH WAS GOING 
TOWARDS THE RESTAURANTS.
SO NOW OUR HARVESTING DAYS ARE A
LOT LONGER, PACKAGING IS A LOT 
LONGER, WE'RE FINISHING LATER, 
WE NEED MORE STAFF, WE'RE A 
LITTLE SHORT STAFFED RIGHT NOW, 
WE'RE SCARED, WE HAVE 
IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF NEW CHANGES
AROUND THE FARM TO KEEP EVERYONE
SAFE.
BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING AND IT'S 
STRESSFUL, ACTUALLY.
>> Rosemary: I WOULD IMAGINE.
YOU'VE ADAPTED IN SOME WAYS BUT 
YOU SAID YOU HAD TO -- YOU SAID 
GET RID OF TP.
I IMAGINE YOU WERE DUMPING SOME 
OF YOUR PRODUCE.
WAS THAT THE CASE?
THERE WAS NO WHERE TO PUT IT 
>> SO BASICALLY THE LAST THREE, 
FOUR DAYS OF HARVESTING, WE 
WOULD HARVEST SOME OF THOSE 
ROOMS, AND WHEN THE COMPOST GOES
OUT TO BE COMPOSTED FOR MUSHROOM
COMPOST OR GARDENS OR WHATNOTS, 
THE PRODUCT WASN'T HARVESTED.
WE GOT RID OF IT THAT WAY, 
UNFORTUNATELY.
>> Rosemary: HOW MUCH DID YOU 
LOSE THERE, MIKE?
>> WE HAD A FEW WEEKS WHERE WE 
WERE UPWARDS OF 20,000 POUNDS A 
WEEK.
>> Rosemary: WHICH WOULD BE WHAT
IN DOLLARS FOR YOU?
>> JUST OVER  $40,000 A WEEK. 
>> THAT'S A LOT.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS OBVIOUSLY PUT
FORWARD A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR 
FARMERS AND PRODUCERS, 
$250 MILLION, IF I'M NOT 
MISTAKEN.
WHAT -- HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO 
TAP INTO ANY AID?
HAS ANY OF THE GOVERNMENT'S MOVE
HELPED YOU IN ANY WAY?
>> NO.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING TO 
BASICALLY HELP THE MUSHROOM 
SECTOR.
BASICALLY THE CANADIAN 
FEDERATION OF AGRICULTURE WAS 
ASKED FOR $2.6 BILLION TO HELP 
THE AG FOOD SECTOR.
ACROSS CANADA.
AND SECURE OUR FOOD SUPPLY IN 
CANADA.
AND 252 MILLION BASICALLY FALLS 
VERY SHORT OF WHAT WAS NEEDED.
AND SO FOR OUR INDUSTRY, WE 
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TAP INTO 
ANY FUNDS TO HELP OUT.
A LOT OF FARMS, WHICH I 
BASICALLY TALKED TO HAVE EXTRA 
HOUSING COSTS, TRANSPORTATION 
COSTS, TO HOUSE THEIR WORKERS, 
AND SO NONE OF THAT THEY WERE 
ABLE TO RECOUP.
BASICALLY IT'S OUR MARGINS HAVE 
ERODED.
>> Rosemary: I UNDERSTAND THERE 
WAS A DESIRE FOR MORE.
THE PRIME MINISTER DID MAKE IT 
PRETTY CLEAR THAT MORE WAS 
FORTHCOMING, THAT HE REALIZED 
THIS IS A FIRST ATTEMPT.
SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED
THERE, THOUGH, SOUNDS LIKE THE 
GOVERNMENT HAD PUT FORWARD IN 
THAT INITIAL PACKAGE, THERE WAS 
GOING TO BE HELP IF YOU NEEDED 
TO BUY MORE FRIDGES OR YOU 
NEEDED TO HELP CHANGE THE WAY 
YOU'RE WORKING SO THAT WORKERS 
FEEL SAFE.
HAVE YOU DONE ANY OF THOSE 
THINGS YET?
>> SOME OF THE FARMS I'VE TALKED
TO, THEY RENTED MORE HOTEL SPACE
AND WHATNOT IN THE RURAL AREAS, 
TO HOUSE THE WORKERS TO 
SEGREGATE THEM BASICALLY, MORE 
SPACING.
THE FUNDING THAT THE GOVERNMENT 
PUT OUT WAS FOR NEW WORKERS 
COMING INTO THE COUNTRY.
IT'S NOT HELPING THE WORKERS 
THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.
SOME OF THE FARMS THAT ARE 
SOCIAL DISTANCING AMONGST THE 
HOUSES THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR 
WORKERS IS NOT ALLOWED IN THAT 
FUNDING.
>> Rosemary: MIKE, HOW ARE YOU 
FEELING ABOUT THE FUTURE?
>> IT'S SCARY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ABOUT 
JUST OVER 100 STAFF, AND EVERY 
DAY WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYONE 
SAFE.
SO WE'RE TAKING TEMPERATURES, 
WE'RE SANITIZING MORE, JUST 
GOING AROUND THE FARM.
I'M LOOKING AT A THERMAL IMAGING
UNIT TO PUT ON MY FARM AS WELL.
IT'S SCARY.
YOU DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET 
SICK.
AND I KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE HAS 
HELPED.
IF I LOOK BACK TO LAST YEAR, 
FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, I HAVE 
NO STAFF THIS YEAR THAT'S SICK 
WITH THE FLU OR COLD.
WHERE LAST YEAR I WAS MISSING 
STAFF WITH FLU AND COLD.
SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS 
WORKING.
IT'S HELPING.
BUT IT'S SCARY.
YOU KNOW, YOU GO HOME AT NIGHT, 
AND YOU -- YOU WANT YOUR FAMILY 
TO STAY SAFE.
SO -- AND YOU WANT YOUR TEAM TO 
BE SAFE.
SO IT'S SCARY.
>> Rosemary: MIKE, THANKS FOR 
TAKING THE TIME TO TALK WITH US 
TODAY.
I REALIZE IT'S A STRESSFUL TIME 
FOR MANY PEOPLE.
I HOPE THAT THINGS IMPROVE FOR 
YOU AND STAY SAFE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: NICE TO MEET YOU.
THAT'S MIKE MEDEIROS, HE'S A 
MUSHROOM FARMER JUST OUTSIDE OF 
OTTAWA.
WHILE WE WAIT, AS YOU CAN SEE 
THERE THEY'RE SETTING UP THE 
PODIUM FOR THE PRIME MINISTER 
OUTSIDE OF RIDEAU COLTAGE.
HE IS EXPECTED TODAY EARLIER 
THAN USUAL, AT 10:30 EASTERN, 
AND WE ARE EXPECTING HIM TO TALK
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE 
WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER, TESTING
AND CONTACT TRACING, SOMETHING 
THAT HE DID DISCUSS WITH THE 
PREMIERS LAST NIGHT.
BUT AS WE WAIT, I WANT TO BRING 
IN ANOTHER GUEST, IF I CAN.
THIS IS BILL BLACK.
HE'S A VETERAN, ONE OF THE 
26,000 CANADIANS WHO SERVED IN 
THE KOREAN WAR 70 YEARS AGO.
IT'S OFTEN CALLED CANADA'S 
FORGOTTEN WAR, BUT WE ARE COMING
UP ON THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF 
THE BEGINNING OF THAT WAR.
AND THE REPUBLIC OF KOREA FOUND 
A WAY TO THANK CANADIAN VETS FOR
THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
NAMELY, BY SENDING MASKS TO 
KOREAN VETS AROUND THE WORLD.
BILL, NICE TO SEE YOU.
YOU GOT ALL DRESSED UP FOR ME.
I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
I THOUGHT I BETTER SHOW OFF MY 
GREEN JACKET.
SO MANY OF OUR VETERANS WEAR 
THEM IN THE ASSOCIATION.
>> Rosemary: YES, INDEED, AND I 
APPRECIATE IT.
I MUST SAY, I HEARD YOU ON THE 
RADIO WITH MY FRIEND ROBIN 
EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND I FOUND 
YOUR CONVERSATION SO TOUCHING, 
AND WHAT THE KOREAN GOVERNMENT 
DID ALSO SO TOUCHING.
TELL ME HOW YOU FELT ABOUT THIS 
DONATION OF MASKS.
I KNOW THERE WAS A CEREMONY 
YESTERDAY.
>> WELL, WE HEARD ABOUT IT ON 
THE 23rd OF APRIL AT THE BATTLE 
OF KAPYONG CEREMONY, WHEN THE 
AMBASSADOR AND THE DEFENCE 
ATTACHE ASKED ME WHETHER WE 
THOUGHT THAT MASKS WOULD BE 
APPROPRIATE FOR OUR VETERANS, 
AND I SAID ABSOLUTELY.
AND I WAS QUITE THRILLED TO HEAR
THAT SOUTH KOREA, UNABLE TO 
COMMEMORATE AND HOLD A RECEPTION
IN JUNE HAVE NOW DELIVERED 
ANOTHER METHOD OF PAYING THEIR 
TRIBUTE TO OUR CANADIAN SOLDIERS
OF THE KOREAN WAR.
AND YESTERDAY, AT THE EMBASSY, 
WE HAD A SHORT RECEPTION, AND 
RECEIVED FOUR LARGE BOXES OF 
THESE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN
SEE THEM OR NOT -- THESE 
WONDERFUL MASKS THAT WILL BE 
DISTRIBUTED ACROSS CANADA TO THE
CONSULATE, THE KOREAN CONSULATES
IN VANCOUVER, MONTREAL, AND 
TORONTO.
AND OF COURSE YESTERDAY THEY 
PROVIDED ME WITH 2,835 FOR OUR 
KOREAN VETERANS IN THE CITY OF 
OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S GREAT.
AND THEY DID SEND A MILLION 
AROUND THE WORLD TO OTHER VETS 
IN OTHER COUNTRIES, TO PEOPLE 
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE KOREAN 
WAR.
WHAT DID THAT MEAN TO YOU, THAT,
YOU KNOW, KOREA -- UNDERSTANDING
THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE THE EVENTS 
THAT WERE PLANNED, BUT THAT THEY
WANTED TO REACH OUT AT A TIME 
WHEN EVERYONE IS SORT OF DEALING
WITH THE STRESS OF THIS.
WHAT DID IT MEAN TO YOU?
>> I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL 
GESTURE AND VERY MEANINGFUL, AND
MEANS THAT OUR VETERANS WILL BE 
ABLE TO BE A LITTLE MORE MOBILE.
A LOT OF THEM DO NOT HAVE MASKS.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS NOW CONCERNED
ABOUT GETTING OUT IN THE PUBLIC.
SO WHEN THEY GO SHOPPING, TO THE
BANK, OR AROUND THE 
NEIGHBOURHOODS, NOW THAT THINGS 
ARE OPENING UP AGAIN, THEY WILL 
HAVE NOT ONLY THE COMFORT OF 
WEARING THESE MASKS, BUT THE 
COMFORT OF KNOWING WHERE THEY 
CAME FROM.
IT WILL STIR THEIR MEMORIES, AS 
IT HAS STIRRED MINE. 
>> Rosemary: TELL ME IN WHAT WAY
IT HAS STIRRED YOUR MEMORIES OF 
YOUR TIME SERVING IN THAT WAR?
>> WELL, TO BEGIN WITH, WE HAD 
NOT IN KOREA AFTER THE WAR, WE 
ALL WENT ON TO DIFFERENT WALKS 
OF- ; HOWEVER, I STAYED IN THE 
MILITARY FOR 35 YEARS, AND I WAS
ALWAYS AN ACQUAINTANCE WITH MANY
OF THE VETERANS FROM THE KOREAN 
WAR IN THE NAVY.
SO WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THE 
IDEA OF HAVING AN ASSOCIATION 40
YEARS AGO, I JOINED, AND IT IS 
VERY MEANINGFUL TO KNOW THAT 
KOREA HAS ALSO REMEMBERED ALL OF
THE VETERANS ACROSS THE WORLD.
THE SOLDIERS WHO SERVED MEN AND 
WOMEN WHO SERVED IN KOREA AND 
THEY BEGAN INVITING THE 
CANADIANS AND THE OTHER 
COUNTRIES VETERANS AND THEIR 
FAMILIES TO VISIT KOREA.
>> AND THESE VISITS WERE PAID 
FOR BY THE KOREAN GOVERNMENT.
THE PATRIOT'S MINISTRY, PATRIOTS
AND VETERANS AFFAIRS KOREA.
BUT OF COURSE ALL OF THE KOREAN 
YOUNG MEN SERVED IN THE 
MILITARY, SO THEY HAVE ONE OF 
THE LARGEST MILITARY SERVICES IN
THE WORLD.
SO WE'VE BEEN CONNECTING WITH 
THEM FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.
>> Rosemary: AMAZING.
AND THEY STILL THINK ABOUT WHAT 
YOU DID TO HELP THEM AND 
OBVIOUSLY ARE STILL VERY 
GRATEFUL PCH .
I KNOW, MR. BLACK, THE AVERAGE 
AGE OF KOREAN VETS IS ABOUT 88 
RIGHT NOW.
OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS THAT MANY 
OF THE KOREAN VETS IN THIS 
COUNTRY AND ELSEWHERE ARE SORT 
OF PART OF THE VULNERABLE 
POPULATION THAT COULD GET 
COVID-19.
IS THAT A CONCERN TO YOU, THAT 
MANY OF YOUR FRIENDS OR VETERANS
THAT YOU KNOW MIGHT FALL ILL?
>> MANY HAVE.
BUT IF WE HAVE IN YOUR UNIT HERE
IN OTTAWA 20 YEARS AGO, AROUND 
240 RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE DOWN 
TO 80 NOW.
MANY HAVE PASSED AWAY, ATTENDED 
MANY OF THE FUNERALS.
SADLY, AND THE INTERESTING THING
IS THAT, FOR ALL OF THE
SOLDIERS, VETERANS WHO HAVE 
PASSED AWAY, THE KOREAN EMBASSY 
HAVE ALSO ATTENDED THESE 
FUNERALS, AND DLIFD THEIR 
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES.
SO THE CONNECTION IS PROBABLY 
ONE OF THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD
FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF 
REMEMBERING THOSE WHO SERVED TO 
SAVE KOREA. 
>> Rosemary: THAT'S VERY NICE TO
HEAR.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THE 
PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID ABOUT 
THIS PANDEMIC, ABOUT COVID-19 
SINCE THE BEGINNING, IS THAT WE 
SHOULD ALL SERVE OUR COUNTRY IN 
THE SAME WAY THAT YOU AND YOUR 
FRIENDS AND YOUR COLLEAGUES DID.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S A MUCH EASIER
SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TODAY, JUST
STAY HOME, STAY SAFE, WASH OUR 
HANDS.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE PRIME MINISTER
MAKING THAT COMPARISON AND 
CALLING PEOPLE TO SERVICE THAT 
DIFFERENT WAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK
OF THAT?
>> TO SERVE IN A DIFFERENT WAY 
IN WHAT RESPECT, I MIGHT ASK?
>> Rosemary: I MEAN IN TERMS OF 
JUST PROTECTING ONE ANOTHER BY 
STAYING HOME AND STAYING SAFE 
AND STAYING 2 METERS APART. 
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IS THE PARAMOUNT, IF WE 
WISH TO REMAIN SAFE.
AND I HOPE ALL OF OUR VETERANS 
ARE ABIDING BY THOSE VERY 
IMPORTANT REGULATIONS ABOUT THE 
DISTANCING AND REMEMBERING TO 
WASH THEIR HANDS, ET CETERA.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.
AND I HOPE ALL OUR VETERANS ARE 
OBEYING THOSE REGULATIONS, IF I 
MAY.
WE LOST ANOTHER VETERAN AT THE 
VETERANS HEALTH CENTRE.
THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE VETERANS 
HOSPITAL IN TORONTO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE 
PASSED AWAY FROM COVID-19.
I NEVER ENQUIRED.
NONETHELESS, TWO DAYS AGO, HE 
PASSED AWAY.
OF COURSE WE CANNOT ATTEND ANY 
FUNERALS, WHICH IS RATHER 
HEART-BREAKING TO NOTE THAT WE 
CAN'T PRESENT THEIR FAMILIES AND
OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES IN PERSON.
SO I HOPE EVERYBODY FOLLOWS THE 
RULES, REGULATIONS, AND WE GET 
OVER THIS CRISIS OF COVID-19 AS 
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> Rosemary: I DO TOO.
BILL BLACK, IT WAS VERY NICE TO 
MEET YOU.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME 
FOR US TODAY, SIR, AND I DO 
APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THE 
UNIFORM ON TOO.
>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I ENJOYED SPEAKING WITH YOU, AND
TORONTO IS MY HOMETOWN.
I WAS BORN THERE.
SO I STILL HAVE A LOVE FOR 
TORONTO. 
>> Rosemary: VERY GOOD.
WELL, YOU LOOK LIKE A MILLION 
BUCKS.
MR. BLACK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
TIME.
I APPRECIATE IT. 
>> THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF 
MY HEART.
BYE. 
>> Rosemary: ALL RIGHT.
STAY SAFE.
THAT'S BILL BLACK.
HE'S A CANADIAN VETERAN WHO 
SERVED IN THE KOREAN WAR, AS 
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
SOUTH KOREA SENT A MILLION MASKS
TO KOREAN WAR VETS AROUND THE 
WORLD WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT 
WAR, INCLUDING MR. BLACK THERE, 
WHO WAS AT A CEREMONY YESTERDAY 
AT THE EMBASSY.
OKAY, WE'RE JUST A FEW MINUTES 
AWAY FROM THE PRIME MINISTER 
COMING OUT OF HIS FRONT DOOR 
THERE AT RIDEAU COTTAGE.
A LITTLE EARLIER THAN USUAL, AT 
10:30 EASTERN.
HE ALSO HAS A CABINET MEETING 
LATER TODAY AND CALL I THINK 
RELATED TO THE UNITED NATIONS 
BID THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS 
CONTINUING TO PUSH FORWARD ON.
THE VOTE IS SOMETIME LATER IN 
JUNE, I BELIEVE, AND CANADA'S 
STILL HOPING TO GET A SEAT AT 
THE SECURITY COUNCIL.
I'LL BRING IN VASSY KAPELOS AND 
THE CBC'S CATHERINE CULLEN.
LOVE MEETING REGULAR PEOPLE, 
EXPERIENCING DIFFERENT WAYS AND 
DIFFERENT THINGS THROUGH THIS, 
INCLUDING BILL BLACK, WHO'S BEEN
THROUGH A LOT ALREADY IN HIS 
LATE 80s AND IS STILL, A, ABLE 
TO USE SKYPE AND GET DRESSED UP 
FOR US IN THE MORNING.
THAT'S GREAT TO SEE HE'S DOING 
VERY WELL.
>>>  WE ARE EXPECTING OBVIOUSLY 
TO HEAR THE PRIME MINISTER TALK 
ABOUT TESTING AND TRACING, 
VASSY.
BUT I WONDER WHETHER -- I DON'T 
THINK HE WILL WEIGH IN ON THIS, 
BUT ON YOUR POINT THAT WE 
STARTED OFF WITH, THE FACT THAT 
THERE ARE QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT 
WHETHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING TOO
QUICKLY AND HOW FAR THE PRIME 
MINISTER CAN GO DOWN THAT ROAD 
IF THIS WAS AN ACTUAL CONCERN 
FOR HIM OR IF IT'S SOMETHING 
THAT HE RAISED WITH PREMIERS 
LAST NIGHT.
>> YEAH, I THINK YOUR WAGER IS 
PROBABLY A SAFE ONE.
IN NEARLY EVERY INSTANCE THAT 
HE'S BEEN ASKED THAT TYPE OF 
QUESTION, ANYTHING THAT WOULD 
ALMOST BE -- RENDER A JUDGMENT 
ON SOMETHING THAT IS PROVINCIAL 
JURISDICTION, HE'S VERY, VERY 
CAREFUL NOT TO.
MOST FEDERAL POLITICIANS ARE.
BUT I THINK THE QUESTION IS 
LIKELY ONE THAT COULD BE PUT TO 
HIM JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SO 
MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BOTH 
ONTARIO AND QUEBEC AND TO MY 
EARLIER OPPONENT, NOT JUST THOSE
OF US TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES,
BUT ACTUALLY POLITICAL 
REPRESENTATIVES OF SOME OF THE 
REGIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HIT THE 
HARD ISSIK WITHIN THOSE PROVINCE
ARE RAISING THOSE KINDS OF 
QUESTIONS.
IT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO PUT TO 
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY ARE INVESTING MONEY.
THEY ARE BANK ROLLING THE IDEA 
OF INCREASING CAPACITY.
I THINK I'LL BE LOOKING FOR SOME
MORE SPECIFICS ON WHAT EXACTLY 
THAT MEANS FROM THE PRIME 
MINISTER, ESPECIALLY WHERE 
CONTACT TRACING IS CONCERNED.
THERE'S A WHOLE TALK WHERE YOU 
WERE TALKING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY,
YOU HAD A GUEST AROUND WHAT APPS
CAN BE USED, DOES IT HAVE TO BE 
MORE UNIVERSAL, IS THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT GOING TO BE DRIVING 
THAT BOAT, AND IF SO, HOW DO WE 
PLAN ON DOING IT?
IF THEY ARE BANK ROLLING IT, TO 
WHAT END.
ESPECIALLY IN ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
WHAT HAVE THE PROVINCES 
SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR?
WHAT CAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
PROVIDE, AND WHAT REMAINS IN THE
MIDDLE?
AND HOW LONG ARE RELOOKING AT?
THERE ARE ALL CAPACITY 
QUESTIONS, AND HOW CAN CAPACITY 
BE RAMPED UP?
WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF
INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALISTS 
AS WELL, PARTICULARLY IN ONTARIO
AND QUEBEC, THE CRITERIA FOR 
GETTING TESTED WAS FAR -- WAS 
FAR SLOWER TO EXPAND VERSUS 
OTHER PROVINCES.
IN ALBERTA, FOR ABOUT A MONTH, 
IF I WAS ASYMPTOMATIC OR JUST 
HAVE ANY KIND OF SYMPTOM, I CAN 
PROBABLY GET A TEST.
MORE PEOPLE IN ONTARIO WERE TOLD
BY THEIR DOCTORS, UNLESS YOU'VE 
TRAVELLED OR WORKED IN A 
LONG-TERM CARE HOME, YOU 
PROBABLY WON'T GET A TEST AND 
THAT ONLY CHANGED A FEW WEEKS 
AGO.
EVEN FROM A MENTAL STANDPOINT OF
TRYING TO GET USED TO THAT IDEA,
SAYING I FEEL FINE, I CAN GET 
TESTED, WE'RE AWAY FAR AWAY FROM
THAT IN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC AND 
THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE CAPACITY
ISSUES. 
>> I WOULD ADD QUICKLY TOO IF WE
HAVE A MOMENT, ROSEMARY, THE 
RELEVANCE FOR THE FOLKS OUTSIDE 
OF ONTARIO AND QUEBEC, WE'VE 
MADE THE POINT OF THAT BEING THE
MAJORITY OF CASES, BUT THE PRIME
MINISTER SAID YESTERDAY THIS IS 
ALSO THIS BROADER EFFORT, HE 
CALLED IT A NATIONAL FRAMEWORK 
ON TEST ANDING TRACING.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE SECOND WAVE.
HE SAID YESTERDAY THIS IS ABOUT 
BEING ABLE TO RESPOND VIRTUALLY 
IMMEDIATELY WHEN CASES DO START 
TO SWELL UP, AND THAT IS GOING 
TO HAPPEN, EVERYONE BELIEVES, IN
DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY GOING FORWARD.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I SHOULD POINT OUT TOO THE 
CONVERSATION AROUND APPS, I KNOW
THERE'S DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS 
IN DIFFERENT PROVINCES AROUND 
APPS TO USE, AROUND THE BENEFIT 
ALSO OF HUMAN CONTACT TRACING, 
WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYONE 
THINKS IS A REPLACEMENT FOR AN 
APP, BUT APPLE AND GOOGLE HAVE 
PUT TOGETHER THIS CONTACT 
TRACING PLATFORM WHERE THEY WILL
PROVIDE SOME OF THE DATA THAT 
PEOPLE WHO USE THEIR PHONES, BUT
THEY WILL ONLY PROVIDE IT TO ONE
APP PER COUNTRY.
SO CANADA HAS NOT REACHED AN 
AGREEMENT WITH THEM RIGHT NOW, 
BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
THE DATA SPREAD OUT ACROSS 
MULTIPLE APPS IN ONE COUNTRY, 
AND SO I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME
QUESTIONS AROUND THE URGENCY TO 
COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON AN APP 
THAT WOULD BE USED NATIONALLY OR
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY 
PARTICULARLY CARE ABOUT OR IF 
THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IS 
THIS DATA THAT APPLE AND GOOGLE 
ARE PROVIDING OF USE, DO THEY 
HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO COORDINATE
THAT, THOSE ARE ALL THE 
QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T THINK 
HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN 
RESOLVED AFTER THE CONVERSATION 
LAST NIGHT, BUT IF HAVE A 
DIFFERENT -- THIS IS OUR 
TWO-MINUTE WARNING THERE.
THAT'S HOW WE GET IT.
JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
I WONDERING HOW THAT'S GOING TO 
BE MANAGED AND NEGOTIATED TOO, 
BECAUSE EVERY PROVINCE HAS A 
DIFFERENT TAKES, EVEN ON HOW 
THEY WANT TO DO CONTACT TRACING,
VASSY. 
>> AND ACTUALLY REALREADY SEE 
EVIDENCE OF THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A NUMBER OF 
WEEKS IN ALBERTA, THEY'VE BEEN 
USING AN APP.
IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, THERE'S AN 
APP TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BUT THE
PREMIER SAID I DON'T WANT ANKLE 
BRACELETS OR ANYTHING TO THAT 
EFFECT.
THERE ARE ALREADY PROVINCIAL 
APPROACHESES TO THIS, AND A 
FEDERAL ONE, A COORDINATED 
APPROACH IS NECESSARY, OR IF 
ONLY ONE APP CAN BE USED ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY AT SOME POINT, IF 
THE DISCUSSION ARRIVES AT THAT 
POINT, WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY 
PLAYING CATCH-UP, RIGHT?
THERE'S ALREADY SOME 
DISCREPANCIES WITHIN THE 
COUNTRY, AND I THINK THAT THE 
IDEA OF A FEDERAL -- A FEDERAL 
MANDATE OR SOME LEVEL OF FEDERAL
COORDINATION IS OF UTMOST 
IMPORTANCE AT THIS JUNCTURE, 
RIGHT?
BECAUSE AS CATHERINE PUTS IT, 
THE SECOND WAVE IS NOT JUST A 
CONCERN IN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC.
IT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN RIGHT
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YOU HOPE BY THAT POINT -- I 
MEAN, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN 
SOUTH KOREA, RIGHT?
THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND 
TEST THE THOUSAND PEOPLE, FIND 
OUT 100 POSITIVE PEOPLE -- LIKE,
OVER 24 HOURS, AND THEY HAD MADE
DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY NEEDED
TO CLOSE, WHERE THEY NEEDED TO 
CLOSE IT, IT WAS A VERY 
TARGETED, AND THAT'S WHAT 
INCREASED TESTING AND INCREASED 
CONTACT TRACING DOES.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO -- WHEN THE 
INEVITABLE SECOND WAVE HITS, TO 
BE ABLE TO TARGET THE RESPONSE 
RATHER THAN A BLANKET SHUTDOWN 
OF THE ECONOMY ONCE AGAIN.
SO IN ADDRESSING CONCERNS AROUND
THE ECONOMY, WHICH OF COURSE 
WERE SPORNT RIGHT NOW, IT GOES 
HAND IN HAND, BUT IT'S NOT JUST 
ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, IT'S ABOUT 
BEING ABLE TO SHUT DOWN PARTS OF
THE ECONOMY OR AREAS 
GEOGRAPHICALLY INSTEAD OF A 
BLANKET SHUTDOWN WE'VE ALREADY 
EXPERIENCED AND IS ALREADY SO 
DEVASTATING. 
>> Rosemary: THE SHUTDOWN, IT'S 
WORTH REMINDING PEOPLE, WAS NOT 
ONLY TO FLATTEN THE CURVE WHICH 
WE LARGELY HAVE AND ALLOW THE 
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM TO HAVE THE 
CAPACITY IN CASE THERE WAS A 
SURGE, BUT IT'S ALSO TO BUY US 
SOME TIME TO PREPARE FOR WHAT 
WAS GOING TO COME NEXT, THAT'S 
RAMPING UP HOW MUCH PPE WE'RE 
GOING TO GET, THE NUMBER OF 
VENTILATORS WE'RE STILL 
PROCURING BUT ALSO GETTING THESE
THINGS IN PLACE SO IF SOMETHING 
HAPPENS, DR. TAM TALKS OFTEN 
ABOUT THE SPARK, IF YOU A SPARK,
YOU CAN GO IN, TEST AND CONTACT 
TRACE AND SHUT DOWN VERY QUICKLY
INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO INTO A 
10-WEEK LOCKDOWN AS WE HAVE.
HERE COMES THE PRIME MINISTER OF
CANADA.
TALK TO BOTH OF YOU IN JUST A 
MOMENT.
FOR NOW ON THIS FRIDAY, THE 
PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA.
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: HELLO, EVERYONE.
THIS MORNING WE AWOKE TO 
TERRIBLE NEWS COMING OUT OF 
PAKISTAN.
PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES 
PLANE CARRYING OVER 100 
PASSENGERS CRASHED IN A 
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD IN 
KURACHI.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE 
VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH PAKISTAN 
TODAY.
WE'RE STARTING A BIT EARLIER 
THIS MORNING, BECAUSE WE HAVE A 
CABINET MEETING EARLY THIS 
AFTERNOON, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR 
JOINING US NOW.
LAST NIGHT, THE PREMIERS AND I 
HELD OUR 10th WEEKLY CALL SINCE 
THE BEGINNING OF THE CRISIS.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN ON 
EVERYONE'S MIND LATELY, HOW WE 
CAN SAFELY REOPEN THE ECONOMY.
OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, 
CANADIANS HAVE BEEN DOING A 
GREAT JOB OF STAYING AT HOME, 
MAINTAINING FANNED, AND 
LISTENING TO PUBLIC HEALTH 
ADVICE.
AND THAT MEANS WE CAN RESTART 
SOME ACTIVITIES.
WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET.
COVID-19 REMAINS A SERIOUS 
HEALTH THREAT.
WE HAVE TO PROCEED WITH CAUTION 
AND KEEP LISTENING TO SCIENCE OR
WE RISK LOSING THE PROGRESS 
WE'VE MADE.
SO TODAY I WANT TO OUTLINE WHAT 
WE KNOW NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO 
SUCCESSFULLY REOPEN THE ECONOMY 
AND ADJUST TO OUR NEW NORMAL.
FIRST, WE NEED TO CONTINUE 
SCALING UP OUR TESTING CAPACITY 
SO WE CAN QUICKLY IDENTIFY NEW 
CASES AND ISOLATE THEM.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PROVINCES AND
TERRITORIES TO EXPAND TESTING BY
PROCURING THINGS LIKE REAGENTS 
AND SWABS.
WHILE SOME PROVINCES HAVE THE 
CAPACITY TO MEET THEIR CURRENT 
NEEDS.
WE'RE COLLABORATING TO RAMP UP 
TESTING SO WE CAN PROTECT 
CANADIANS AND EFFECTIVELY MANAGE
FUTURE OUT-UBERX.
SECOND, WE NEED TO ACCELERATE 
OUR ABILITY TO DO CONTACT 
TRACING.
AFTER WE'VE CONFIRMED AND 
ISOLATED NEW CASES, WE HAVE TO 
GET IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE WHO 
MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE 
VIRUS AND MAKE SURE THEY TAKE 
MEASURES TO QUARANTINE AND 
MONITOR THEMSELVES FOR SYMPTOMS 
OR GET TESTED.
WHILE PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES 
ARE MANAGING TESTING AND CONTACT
TRACING DIFFERENTLY, OUR 
GOVERNMENT HAS TRAINED FEDERAL 
EMPLOYEES WHO CAN MAKE 3600 
CONTACT TRACING CALLS A DAY, 7 
DAYS A WEEK.
STATISTICS CANADA HAS ALSO AN 
ADDITIONAL 1700 INTERVIEWERS 
READY TO GO WHO CAN MAKE UP TO 
20,000 CALLS A DAY.
THESE FEDERAL RESOURCES ARE 
AVAILABLE TO ASSIST PROVINCES 
AND TERRITORIES WITH ANY SURGES 
OR BACKLOGS OR CHALLENGES THEY 
HAVE IN CONTACT TRACING.
WE'RE ALREADY HELPING TO MAKE 
CALLS IN ONTARIO AND STAND READY
TO HELP ANYWHERE ELSE.
THIRD, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THE 
DATA COLLECTED ACROSS 
JURISDICTIONS IS SHARED BETWEEN 
PROVINCE AND IS TERRITORIES.
THIS WILL HELP US TRACK THE 
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS, ADAPT OUR 
RESPONSE ACCORDINGLY, AND SAVE 
LIVES.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: I WANT 
TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO
TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL REOPENING
OF THE ECONOMY AND AN ADJUSTMENT
TO THE NEW REALITY.
FIRST, WE MUST CONTINUE TO 
INCREASE OUR TESTING CAPACITY SO
THAT WE CAN QUICKLY DETECT AND 
ISOLATE ANY NEW CASES.
SECOND, WE MUST BE ABLE TO 
QUICKLY CONTACT PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
BEEN EXPOSED, SO THAT THEY CAN 
SELF-ISOLATE AND MONITOR THEIR 
SYMPTOMS OR GET TESTED.
WHILE THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES ARE CONDUCTING 
TESTING AND DOING THEIR CONTACT 
TRACING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, 
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS TRAINED 
FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOW 
PREPARED TO STEP UP AND HELP 
FIND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN 
EXPOSED TO THE VIRUS ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY.
THESE EMPLOYEES CAN MAKE 3600 
CALLS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK.
FURTHERMORE, STATISTICS CANADA 
HAS MADE AVAILABLE 1700 
INTERVIEWERS WHO CAN MAKE UP TO 
20,000 CALLS A DAY.
WE ARE ALREADY MAKING THOSE 
CALLS IN ONTARIO, AND WE ARE 
OFFERING OUR ASSISTANCE TO 
ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.
THIRD, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT 
THE DATA COLLECTED BY THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES ARE 
SHARED RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THAT WILL HELP US TO FOLLOW THE 
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS TO ADAPT OUR
RESPONSE ACCORDINGLY, AND TO 
SAVE LIVES.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: NOW, CANADA IS A VAST 
COUNTRY, AND SOME REGIONS HAVE 
BEEN HIT HARDER THAN OTHERS BY 
THE PANDEMIC.
THAT'S WHY PLANS TO RELAX 
RESTRICTIONS VARY FROM ONE 
JURISDICTION TO ANOTHER.
BUT IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE 
AROUND FREELY AND START GETTING 
BACK TO NORMAL LIFE, WE HAVE TO 
IMPROVE OUR ABILITY TO QUICKLY 
PINPOINT THE VIRUS AND ISOLATE 
IT.
ALL PREMIERS RECOGNIZE HOW 
IMPORTANT THIS IS, AND I WANT TO
THANK THEM FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT 
IN THIS ISSUE.
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS 
CRISIS, ALL JURISDICTIONS HAVE 
BEEN WORKING TOWARDS ONE COMMON 
GOAL, PROTECTING CANADIANS.
THE NEXT FIZZ OF OUR 
COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS IS ON 
TESTING, CONTACT TRACING, AND 
DATA COLLECTION, AND I'VE TOLD 
THE PREMIERS THAT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS HERE TO SUPPORT, 
FACILITATE, AND FUND THIS 
IMPORTANT WORK.
TAKING STRONG, COLLABORATIVE 
ACTION TO EXPAND TESTING AND 
CONTACT TRACING IS IMPORTANT FOR
BOTH CANADIANS AND BUSINESSES TO
HAVE CONFIDENCE WE'RE ON THE 
RIGHT FOOT.
WE NEED TO KNOW WE HAVE A 
COORDINATED APPROACH TO 
GRADUALLY REOPEN THAT IS ROUTED 
IN SCIENCE, EVIDENCE, AND THE 
ABILITY TO RAPIDLY DETECT AND 
CONTROL ANY FUTURE OUTBREAKS.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: IN 
ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO 
MOVE AROUND FREELY AGAIN AND GET
BACK TO THEIR USUAL ROUTINE, WE 
MUST BE ABLE TO QUICKLY DETECT 
AND ISOLATE ANY NEW CASES.
ALL PREMIERS UNDERSTAND JUST HOW
IMPORTANT THAT IS, AND WE AGREE.
FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS 
CRISIS, ALL ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT
HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO 
PROTECT CANADIANS.
THE NEXT PHASE OF OUR 
COLLABORATION WILL FOCUS ON 
TESTING, CONTACT TRACING, AND 
DATA SHARING.
AND AS I SAID TO MY COLLEAGUES 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE THERE
TO SUPPORT, FACILITATE, AND FUND
THAT WORK.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CANADIANS AS 
IT IS FOR BUSINESSES TO KNOW 
THAT WE ARE COOPERATING IN ORDER
TO STEP UP THE TESTING AND 
CONTACT TRACING.
THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAVE BEEN 
VERY DIFFICULT FOR EVERYONE.
BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH A 
PERIOD OF UNCERTAINTY, AND LIFE 
WAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN 
OVERNIGHT.
BUT WE PUT IN PLACE CERTAIN 
MEASURES TO HELP PEOPLE GET 
THROUGH THE CRISIS, WHETHER 
YOU'RE A STUDENT, A RETIREE, OR 
UNEMPLOYEED.
AND IF YOU NEED HELP OR YOU'RE 
NOT SURE WHERE TO BEGIN, WE NOW 
HAVE A NEW ONLINE TOOL THAT CAN 
HELP YOU GO TO  
CANADA.CA/coronavirusbenefits TO
GET MORE INFORMATION.
YOU CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF 
QUESTIONS, AND THE TOOL WILL 
GIVE YOU A LIST OF PROGRAMS YOU 
ARE ELIGIBLE FOR.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WE SET UP A NUMBER OF 
PROGRAMS TO HELP EVERYONE FROM 
STUDENTS TO PARENTS TO SENIORS 
GET THROUGH THIS CRISIS.
IF YOU NEED SUPPORT BUT YOU'RE 
NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO START, 
WE NOW HAVE A NEW ONLINE TOOL TO
HELP YOU.
JUST GO TO 
Canada.ca/coronavirusbenefits.
YOU'LL FIND A LIST OF A FEW 
SIMPLE QUESTIONS, AND THE TOOL 
WILL GENERATE AN ARRAY OF 
PROGRAMS FOR WHICH YOU MAY BE 
ELIGIBLE.
I WANT TO CLOSE TODAY BY 
ADDRESSING THE SIGNIFICANT 
INCREASE IN ACTS OF RACISM 
AGAINST ASIAN CANADIANS.
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND 
MONTHS, BUSINESSES, BUILDINGS, 
AND STATUES HAVE BEEN 
VANDALIZED.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERBALLY ABUSED
AND PHYSICALLY ATTACKED.
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
HATE, VIOLENCE, AND 
DISCRIMINATION HAVE NO PLACE IN 
CANADA.
THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE AS 
CANADIANS.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO STOOD 
UP AGAINST VIOLENCE AND EXPOSED 
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR 
COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST 
RACISM WHEREVER IT IS FOUND SO 
WE CAN STOP IT.
THE ASIAN CANADIANS ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY KNOW THAT WE ALL STAND 
WITH YOU.
WE WILL NOT LET HATE DIVIDE US.
>> THANK YOU, PRIME MINISTER.
WE'LL NOW GO TO THE PHONE FOR 
QUESTIONS.
OPERATOR?
>> THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: GOOD 
MORNING, MR. TRUDEAU.
I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE 
CONTACT TRACING AND TESTING.
YOU DID DISCUSS THIS IN YOUR 
CONVERSATION WITH THE PREMIERS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER
YOU ARRIVED ON AN AGREEMENT ON A
NATIONAL CONTACT TRACING 
STRATEGY, AND DID THAT INCLUDE 
USING MOBILE APPLICATIONS FOR 
CONTACT TRACING.
AND IF SO, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 
VOLUNTARY USE OR WHAT EXACTLY?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: NOW, RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY 
TO CONDUCT 60,000 TESTS A DAY.
BUT WE ARE NOT YET AT THAT 
POINT.
BECAUSE A NUMBER OF REGIONS DO 
NOT NEED TO INCREASE THE PACE OF
THEIR TESTING BECAUSE THE 
SITUATION THERE IS MORE UNDER 
CONTROL.
AND IN OTHER REGIONS, WE WILL BE
THERE TO SUPPORT, PROVIDING THE 
NECESSARY MATERIALS.
WE TALKED TO THE PROVINCES LAST 
EVENING, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING 
TO THEM FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS 
NOW TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR 
SPECIFIC TESTING NEEDS ARE AND 
ALSO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO 
INCREASE THEIR CONTACT TRACING.
AS I SAID, WE HAVE SET YOU HAVE 
A NETWORK OF PUBLIC SERVANTS 
THAT ARE PREPARED TO HELP THE 
PROVINCES WITH THEIR TESTING, 
BUT THE FIRST STEP IS REALLY 
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE NEEDS ARE
AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE IN EVERY 
PROVINCE AND TERRITORY.
AND WORRY WORKING VERY CLOSELY 
WITH ONTARIO NOW ON CONTACT 
TRACING AND WE WILL BE THERE TO 
HELP ANY OTHER PROVINCE OR 
TERRITORY THAT REQUIRES 
ASSISTANCE.
WE JUST NEED THEM TO ASK US WHAT
COULD BE DONE TO INCREASE THE 
PACE OF THAT TESTING AND CONTACT
TRACING.
WITH RESPECT TO APPLICATIONS, 
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT
AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY ON 
THAT IN THE COMING DAYS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WE ARE FROM THE VERY 
BEGINNING HIGHLIGHTED HOW 
IMPORTANT IT IS TO INCREASE 
TESTING CAPACITY.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY TESTING 
CAPACITY AROUND 60,000 TESTS A 
DAY, BUT THAT CAPACITY HASN'T 
BEEN REACHED YET ANYWHERE IN THE
COUNTRY BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER
OF PROVINCES THAT DON'T HAVE TO 
AUGMENT ALL THAT MUCH THEIR 
TESTING CAPACITY BECAUSE THINGS 
ARE UNDER CONTROL, BUT EVERYONE 
NEEDS TO BE READY IN CASE THERE 
IS A SURGE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE 
MOVING FORWARD ON ENSURING THAT 
THERE IS THAT TESTING CAPACITY 
AND WE CONTINUE TO RAMP IT UP.
IN REGARDS TO CONTACT TRACING, 
WE KNOW THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL 
ELEMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH 
ONTARIO.
WE'VE DEVELOPED A PUBLIC SERVICE
APPROACH FEDERALLY THAT IS THERE
TO SUPPORT THE MECHANISMS IN THE
PROVINCE TO DO THAT CONTACT 
TRACING, AND WE'RE RAMPING IT 
UP.
BUT WE ALSO ARE THERE, 
OBVIOUSLY, TO HELP ANY OTHER 
PROVINCE THAT WOULD NEED HELP 
WITH CONTACT TRACING.
WE'VE ASKED PROVINCES TO 
HIGHLIGHT FOR US WHAT YOUR PLANS
ARE AND HOW WE CAN HELP WITH 
THAT.
IN REGARDS TO THE APP, WE 
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND 
HOPEFULLY HAVE THINGS TO SHARE 
IN THE COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: 
FOLLOW-UP?
>> (Question by Media): ON 
ANOTHER TOPIC, PARLIAMENT IS 
EXPECTED TO RETURN ON MONDAY.
IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THE 
PARLIAMENT BE ABLE TO SIT AND 
DISCUSS MANY OTHER ISSUES.
SO DO YOU DEGREE THAT IT'S TIME 
TO EXPAND PARLIAMENT'S 
ACTIVITIES, AND SHOULD MPs BE 
ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY SUBJECT 
OTHER THAN THE PANDEMIC?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE IN 
A SITUATION WHERE THE PANDEMIC 
HAS BECOME OUR EVERYDAY REALITY 
FOR ALL CANADIANS.
AND WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION AND 
RESPOND ACCORDINGLY, AND OF 
COURSE THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT 
THAT IS OUR PRIORITY AS A 
GOVERNMENT.
WE WANT TO BE THERE TO HELP 
CANADIANS DURING THIS CRISIS, 
BUT IT'S ALSO THE PRIORITY OF 
ALL PARLIAMENTARIANS.
BUT THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS 
OCCURRING RIGHT NOW WITH THE 
DIFFERENT PARTIES IN THE HOUSE 
OF COMMONS TO SEE HOW WE CAN 
RETURN TO WORK AND HOW WE SHOULD
DO THAT.
CANADIANS KNOW FULL WELL THAT WE
NEED A FUNCTIONING PARLIAMENT 
DURING THIS CRISIS, AND THAT'S 
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO 
DO.
>> OPERATOR?
>> THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: GOOD 
MORNING, MR. TRUDEAU.
FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS, YOU'VE 
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE 
IMPORTANCE OF DOING MORE 
TESTING, AND YET IN ANOTHER -- 
IN A NUMBER OF CLINICS, THE 
NUMBER OF TESTS IS NOT VERY 
SIGNIFICANT, EVEN IN THE GREATER
MONTREAL REGION.
SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO CANADIANS 
WHO ARE HESITATING TO GO AND GET
TESTED?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WELL, WE NEED TO DO 
MUCH MORE TESTING.
THAT IS HOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO 
CONTROL THE REOPENING OF THE 
ECONOMY AND CONTROL THE SPREAD 
OF THE VIRUS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND I KNOW THAT THE PROVINCES 
MAY HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO
THIS, BUT THEY DO NEED TO RAMP 
UP THE PACE OF TESTING, AND A 
NUMBER OF PROVINCES ARE NOW 
EXPANDING THE SCEP -- SCOPE OF 
THEIR TESTING PROTOCOLS SO THAT 
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GET TESTED 
CAN.
BUT IT CAN ALSO BE IMPORTANT TO 
RAMP UP THE CONTACT TRACING AS 
WELL, AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO 
MAY BE INFECTED WITH COVID TO 
GET TESTED AS WELL.
>> A FOLLOW-UP?
>> (Question by Media): YES.
NOW DO YOU CONSIDER THAT 
IMMIGRATION LEVELS SHOULD STAY 
THE SAME?
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 
UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE PAWED 
OUR ECONOMY FOR THE TIME BEING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT 
HAVE TO STAY HOME AND CANNOT 
WORK.
BUT AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY 
STARTS UP AGAIN, WE WILL NEED 
WORKERS.
I KNOW AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT 
THE CANADIAN ECONOMY WILL 
REBOUND.
AND NEW COMERS TO THIS COUNTRY 
ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE 
GROWTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 
IN THIS COUNTRY.
WE WILL HAVE TO SET THE 
IMMIGRATION LEVELS AT A 
RESPONSIBLE THRESHOLD BUT GIVE 
PROPER OPPORTUNITIES BOTH TO 
CANADIANS AND PEOPLE COMING FROM
ABROAD.
NEW COMERS CREATE JOBS IN 
CANADA.
THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE, 
AND IT WILL STILL BE THE CASE IN
FUTURE.
THANK YOU.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION, NATIONAL POST.
LINE OPEN.
>> (Question by Media): YEAH, 
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
I'M WONDERING NOW THAT THE 
NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING OVER 
THE REOPENING OF PARLIAMENT, 
WHICH IS SET TO START ON MONDAY.
I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR POSITION
IS, WHAT YOUR... DO YOU WANT THE
(INAUDIBLE) TO CONTINUE, DO YOU 
WANT TO SEE SOME SORT OF LARGER 
PARLIAMENT?
SOME SORT OF HYBRID MODEL?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: I THINK WE WANT WHAT 
CANADIANS WANT, TO MAKE SURE 
THERE IS A FUNCTIONING 
PARLIAMENT THAT WILL ENSURE THAT
QUESTIONS AND PREOCCUPATIONS 
FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY GET 
HEARD.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY NONCOVID 
THINGS WE COULD BE MOVING 
FORWARD ON.
I THINK THE FOCUS WILL ALWAYS 
NEED TO BE ON THIS EXCEPTIONAL 
SITUATION WE'RE IN, AND OUR 
GOVERNMENT AND OUR COUNTRY'S 
RESPONSE TO THAT.
THOSE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE TO BE
ONGOING, AND I KNOW THAT ALL 
PARTIES ARE UNITED IN WANTING TO
ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE, AS WE 
HAVE BEEN, TO DEMONSTRATE THAT 
OUR DEMOCRACY IS STRONG AND OUR 
INSTITUTIONS ARE FUNCTIONING, 
NOT JUST DESPITE THE CRISIS, BUT
BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: OF 
COURSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 
ISSUES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO 
DISCUSS IN THE COMING WEEKS.
NOT ALL OF THEM ARE DIRECTLY 
LINKED TO COVID-19.
BUT THE PRIORITY WILL BE THE 
CRISIS IN WHICH WE ARE NOW 
INVOLVED.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE 
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER 
POLITICAL PARTIES BECAUSE 
CANADIANS WANT A FUNCTIONING 
PARLIAMENT.
FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS NOW, WOVE 
BEEN SITTING THREE TIMES A WEEK,
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE 
WORK DONE, SO THAT WE'RE MAKING 
THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR 
CANADIANS RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
>> (Question by Media): YEAH, 
I'M JUST WONDERING, SIR, DO YOU 
ENVISION AN END TO THE VIRTUAL 
PARLIAMENT?
MORE SESSIONS IN PERSON?
DO YOU SEE SOME SORT OF HYBRID 
MODEL?
WHAT DO YOU PHYSICALLY EXPECT 
PARLIAMENT TO SEE IN THE COMING 
WEEKS, AND DO YOU THINK IT 
SHOULD BE EXPANDED INTO THE 
SUMMER?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS
THAT ARE ONGOING BETWEEN ALL 
PARTY LEADERS.
OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE PHYSICALLY 
PRESENT IN REDUCED NUMBERS 
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FINAL 
DECISION IS BY ALL PARTIES.
THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A WAIT FOR
PARLIAMENTARIANS ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY TO EXPRESS THE CONCERNS 
AND ASK QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF 
THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS 
WE'RE WORKING OUT AND I KNOW 
JUST AS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SIT
OVER THE PAST WEEKS THEE TIMES A
WEEK AND CONTINUE THE 
FUNCTIONING OF OUR PARLIAMENT, 
WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
INTO THE COMING WEEKS.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: JUST AS
WE WERE ABLE TO RESPOND TO 
QUESTIONS AND ENSURE THAT 
CANADIA RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY ARE PROPERLY REPRESENTED
IN PARLIAMENT IN RECENT WEEKS, 
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO 
ENSURE THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS 
FUNCTIONING PROPERLY IN THE 
COMING WEEKS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> THANK YOU, MERCI.
NEXT QUESTION, THE CANADIAN 
PRESS.
LINE OPEN.
>> (Question by Media): GOOD 
MORNING, PRIME MINISTER.
JUST ON A CONTACT TRACING, CAN 
YOU PROVIDE THE TIMELINES THAT 
YOU ARE -- THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT 
IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL 
THESE SEPARATE EFFORTS IN 
PROVINCES ARE ACTUALLY ASSISTED,
NOT SLOWDOWNED, AND THE 
GOVERNMENT IS ITTING MAKING SURE
THERE'S A NATIONAL EFFORT TO 
RAMP UP TESTING?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WE KNOW PART OF THE 
REOPENING OF THE ECONOMY WILL 
INVOLVE CANADIANS TRAVELLING 
MORE WITHIN THEIR PROVINCES AND 
POTENTIALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A 
NATIONAL APPROACH THAT IS GOING 
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COMPARABLE 
DATA RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
AND COMPARABLE TOOLS.
EVEN IN REGIONS WHERE THE SPREAD
OF THE VIRUS IS -- SEEMS VERY 
MUCH UNDER CONTROL RIGHT NOW, 
THERE COULD BE A RESURGENCE.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE NEED 
TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKLY 
AND COMPREHENSIVELY, AND THAT'S 
VERY MUCH WHAT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON.
WE KNOW AND WE'VE HEARD FROM 
PROVINCES THAT CONTACT TRACING 
IS A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF 
DELIVERING THE BODIES NECESSARY 
TO MAKE THE PHONE CALLS TO TRACE
EVERYONE A POSITIVE TEST COULD 
HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IN THE
PREVIOUS DAYS, THAT'S WHY WE'VE 
PUT FORWARD THE LOGISTICAL 
SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER 
THAT TO ANY PROVINCE ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY.
>> FOLLOW-UP. 
>> (Question by Media): AS MY 
FOLLOW-UP, I WANT TO GO TO 
SOMETHING ELSE.
LAST WEEK THE PREMIER OF NOVA 
SCOTIA SAID HE WAS WAIT AND SEE 
WHETHER OTTAWA IS WILLING TO 
HOLD A PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO THE 
MASS SHOOTING IN HIS PROVINCE.
SO VERY SIMPLY, PRIME MINISTER, 
WILL YOU COMMIT THAT YOUR 
GOVERNMENT WILL LEAD AN 
INDEPENDENT PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO 
THE SHOOTING?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: I THINK PEOPLE HAVE 
MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT 
HAPPENED IN NOVA SCOTIA, AND 
WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE RCMP TO DO
ITS WORK ON THE INITIAL 
INVESTIGATION, BUT AS WE MOVE 
FORWARD, THERE WILL OF COURSE BE
LARGER QUESTIONS TO ASK, AND WE 
WILL WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF
NOVA SCOTIA ON GETTING THOSE 
ANSWERS.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: WE KNOW
THE RCMP WILL CONTINUE TO 
CONDUCT ITS INVESTIGATION ON 
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN NOVA 
SCOTIA.
BUT OF COURSE THERE WILL BE MORE
QUESTIONS, AND THE GOVERNMENT OF
CANADA IS PERFECTLY PREPARED TO 
WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF NOVA
SCOTIA TO FIND ANSWERS TO THOSE 
QUESTIONS.
>> Voice of Interpreter: 
>> (Question by Media): SALIMAH 
SHIVJI, CBC.
I'M ASKING ABOUT CONTACT 
TRACING.
IF ONLY ONTARIO HAS SIGNED ON 
AND NOT QUEBEC, HOW DOES THAT 
SQUARE WITH THE IMMEDIATE 
IMPROVEMENT YOU WERE TALKING 
ABOUT EARLIER AND IS THE MESSAGE
OF URGENCY BEING LOST HERE?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WE HAVE BEEN REACHING 
OUT OVER THE PAST WEEK TO ALL 
PROVINCES TO DETERMINE WHAT 
THEIR PLAN IS ON CONTACT 
TRACING, WHAT EXACTLY THEY ARE 
DOING, AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY 
NEED MORE HELP.
THEY HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE 
HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAT CAN BE 
DEPLOYED IMMEDIATELY.
THEY'VE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A 
WHILE.
AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE TO HEAR 
BACK FROM THE PROVINCES THAT 
COULD NEED THIS QUICKLY TO TELL 
US WHETHER AND HOW THEY WANT US 
TO HELP.
A NUMBER OF PROVINCES HAVE.
SOME HAVE NOT YET.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: FOR A 
NUMBER OF DAYS WE HAVE BEEN 
TELLING THE PROVINCES THAT WE 
HAVE VALUABLE RESOURCES, AND WE 
ASK THEM DIRECTLY WHAT THEIR 
PLANS ARE WITH THE CONTACT 
TRACING AND WHAT THEIR CAPACITY 
IS, AND WHETHER THEY NEED HELP 
OR WANT MORE RESOURCES TO DO 
THAT.
A NUMBER OF PROVINCES ANSWERED, 
AND SOME HAVE NOT YET RESPONDED 
TO THAT.
BUT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HELP 
RIGHT ACROSS THE PROVINCE -- THE
COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE 
AREAS THAT NEED HELP.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> (Question by 
Media):... GOOGLE HAS SAID THEIR
PLATFORMS WILL REQUIRE ONE APP 
PER COUNTRY.
THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS TO 
HAPPEN QUICKLY, OBVIOUSLY.
WE'VE BEEN AWAITING AN 
ANNOUNCEMENT ON THIS FOR WEEKS.
PEOPLE NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE APP.
WILL OTTAWA STEP IN AND IMPOSE 
ONE APP FOR PROVINCES TO USE TO 
MAKE DIGITAL TESTING AS 
EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: AROUND THE WORLD THERE 
HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 
APPS DEVELOPED, SINGAPORE, 
AUSTRALIA, OTHER PLACES.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THOSE
APPS HAVE ENCOUNTERED IS THAT IT
HAS TO SIT IN THE FOREGROUND OF 
YOUR PHONE AND DRAINS THE 
BATTERY.
THAT'S WHY THE FIX THAT APPLE 
AND GOOGLE ARE TALKING ABOUT 
BRINGING IN IN THE BEGINNING OF 
JUNE WILL BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
AS A BASE FOR AN EFFECTIVE 
CONTACT TRACING OR EXPOSURE 
NOTIFICATION APP.
WE ARE WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF 
DIFFERENT PARTNERS ON POTENTIAL 
APPS.
WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH APPLE
AND GOOGLE ON THE UPDATE THAT 
THEY WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD.
AND IT IS OUR EXPECTATION THAT 
WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THAT TO 
BE RELEASED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO 
RECOMMEND STRONGLY TO CANADIANS 
A PARTICULAR APP THAT WILL HELP 
US MANAGE THE SPREAD OF 
COVID-19.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: THE 
APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN 
DEVELOPED AROUND THE WORLD TO 
FIGHT COVID-19 WOULD BE IMPROVED
IF THEY INCORPORATE A CHANGE 
THAT APPLE AND GOOGLE ARE NOW 
MAKING IN THEIR SYSTEMS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
RELEASED IN JUNE, AND WE ARE 
HOPING TO BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND 
AN APPLICATION TO CANADIANS AT 
THAT TIME SO THAT WE CAN HELP TO
CONTROL THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
[ End of Interpretation ]
>> (Question by Media): AGAIN 
GREGOIRE, CTV NEWS.
PRIME MINISTER, I WANT TO ASK 
ABOUT THE SITUATION IN 
HONG KONG.
YOU KNOW THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT 
IS CONSIDERING VERY SERIOUS 
SECURITY LEGISLATION THAT'S 
GOING TO REALLY CHANGE THE 
SITUATION ON THE GROUND THERE 
FOR AT LEAST FOR THE 300,000 
CANADIANS WHO ARE THERE NOW.
AND IT COULD VERY LIKELY END THE
ONE COUNTRY, TWO SYSTEMS 
ARRANGEMENT THAT THEY'VE HAD FOR
A WHILE.
WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO BEIJING 
NOW, AND WOULD YOU CONSIDER ANY 
KIND OF SANCTIONS OR ANY FORMAL 
DIPLOMATIC REBUKE IF THE 
GOVERNMENT PROCEEDS WITH THIS?
>> The Rt. Honourable Justin 
Trudeau: WE ARE CONCERNED WITH 
THE SITUATION IN HONG KONG.
WE HAVE 300,000 CANADIANS WHO 
LIVE IN HONG KONG, AND THAT'S 
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANT 
TO ENSURE THAT THE ONE COUNTRY, 
TWO SYSTEMS APPROACH CONTINUES 
FOR HONG KONG.
WE HAVE LONG CALLED FOR A 
DEESCALATION OF TENSIONS AND 
GENUINE DIALOGUE WITH 
HONG KONG -- BETWEEN HONG KONG 
CITIZENS AND BEIJING.
WE CONTINUE TO CALL FOR THAT, 
AND WE WILL KEEP MONITORING THE 
SITUATION CLOSELY.
[ Speaking French ]
>> Voice of Interpreter: WE'RE 
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE 
SITUATION IN HONG KONG AND HAVE 
BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE ARE 300,000 CANADIANS 
LIVING THERE.
AND THE APPROACH OF ONE COUNTRY 
AND TWO SYSTEMS THAT'S BEEN IN 
PLACE IN HONG KONG CONTINUES TO 
BE VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO BEIJING
THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO 
PURSUE THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE 
CITIZENS OF HONG KONG AND TO 
REDUCE THE TENSIONS THERE.
[ End of Interpretation ]
[ Please Stand By ]
>> MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT 
ARE YOU DOING TO PROTECT US -- 
CAN YOU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT 
THE BREACHES THAT HAVE TAKEN 
PLACE SO FAR AND ARE YOU GOING 
TO BUILD AN INTERNATIONAL 
COALITION TO CONFRONT CHINA?
>> Answer: WE HAVE LONG BEEN 
CONCERNED ABOUT INTELLECTUAL 
PROPERTIES IN CANADA.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE INCREASED THE
FUNDING FOR THE C.S.C., WHICH IS
THE COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY 
ESTABLISHMENT, WHICH WATCHES AND
MAKES SURE OUR SYSTEMS ARE SAFE.
THE C.S.C. IS AMONG THE BEST 
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES IN THE 
WORLD, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH 
PARTNERS AROUND THE WORLD LIKE 
FIVE EYES AND OTHERS.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE 
TOOLS TO KEEP CANADIANS AND OUR 
INSTITUTIONS SAFE.
PART OF THAT INVOLVES NOTIFYING,
BUT PART OF THAT INCLUDES 
WORKING TO KEEP CANADIANS' DATA 
AND SAFETY PROTECTED.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENSURE THEY 
HAVE IS THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR 
WORK.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] GOOD 
MORNING, MR. TRUDEAU.
YOU ARE NOW NEGOTIATING WITH THE
OPPOSITION PARTIES FOR THE 
SUSPENSION OF WORK.
NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE CERB, 
IS THAT PART OF YOUR 
NEGOTIATIONS?
THE BLOC IS ASKING YOU TO 
INTRODUCE A MORE PROGRESSIVE 
MODEL TO ALLOW OR TO ENCOURAGE 
PEOPLE TO RETURN TO WORK.
IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOUR PLANS 
ARE AND WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO 
MAKE A DECISION ON THIS?
>> Answer: WELL, I THINK THERE 
ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS 
NEGOTIATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE
RETURN OF PARLIAMENT.
WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE STRUCTURE
THAT WILL ALLOW ALL CANADIANS 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO BE 
PROPERLY REPRESENTED IN A 
PARLIAMENT THAT WILL BE LIMITED 
IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THERE IN 
PERSON AND OTHERS WHO WILL BE 
PARTICIPATING BY VIDEO 
CONFERENCE.
THE OTHER ISSUE HAS TO DO WITH 
TECHNOLOGY AND LOGISTICS 
DECISIONS RELATED TO THE RETURN 
OF PARLIAMENT.
NOW, THERE ARE PARTIES MAKING 
SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS 
TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS 
THAT ARE THERE FOR CANADIANS, IN
ORDER TO BETTER HELP CANADIANS 
AND BUSINESSES IN THIS CRISIS.
THAT'S WHAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK 
ON WITH THEM.
BUT WE PREFER TO SEPARATE THE 
DISCUSSIONS ON THE RETURN TO 
PARLIAMENT FROM THOSE WITH 
RESPECT TO AMENDING SPECIFIC 
POLICIES.
[end of translation] THERE ARE 
TWO THINGS THAT ARE BEING 
DISCUSSED THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT 
BLENDED IN SOME PEOPLE'S VIEWS 
THAT WE TEND TO KEEP A LITTLE 
MORE SEPARATE.
THERE ARE REFLECTIONS ON HOW 
PARLIAMENT IS COMING BACK, HOW 
WE WILL ENSURE THAT OUR 
INSTITUTIONS AND OUR DEMOCRACY 
CONTINUES TO FUNCTION STRONGLY 
AS IT HAS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL 
WEEKS WITH THREE SESSIONS A 
WEEK.
WE ARE GOING TO KEEP WORKING TO 
BRING FORWARD NEW ISSUES.
THERE IS THE OTHER REFLECTION ON
PROPOSALS AND SUGGESTIONS MADE 
BY OTHER PARTIES ON HOW TO 
IMPROVE THE BENEFITS WE'RE 
SENDING TO CANADIANS, HOW TO 
FACILITATE THE REOPENING OF THE 
ECONOMY, AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS
WILL CONTINUE ON A SEPARATE 
TRACK.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] YESTERDAY
FRANÇOIS LEGAULT SAID HE WAS 
COMPETING WITH THE CERB AND THIS
IS HARMING THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE
TO RETURN TO WORK.
>> Answer: WELL, WE'RE IN A 
SITUATION WHERE MILLIONS OF 
CANADIANS HAVE NO JOBS, WHERE 
TENS OF MILLIONS OF STUDENTS 
WERE RELYING ON A SUMMER JOB 
THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO PAY THEIR 
RENT OR PAY THEIR TUITION WILL 
NOT HAVE A SUMMER JOB.
WE NEED TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AMONG 
YOUNG PEOPLE IS CLOSE TO 35%.
YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO WORK, THEY 
WANT TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT THEY 
WANT TO RECEIVE THE NECESSARY 
SUPPORT.
THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IN THE 
EMERGENCY STUDENT BENEFIT.
[end of translation] WE KNOW 
THAT MILLIONS OF CANADIANS ARE 
OFF WORK RIGHT NOW AND TENS OF 
THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS WHO WERE 
RELYING ON SUMMER JOBS TO BE 
ABLE TO PAY FOR THEIR GROCERIES,
RENT, TUITION FEES WON'T FIND 
THOSE SUMMER JOBS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE 
SUPPORTING THOSE STUDENTS SO 
THEY CAN CONTINUE IN THEIR PATH 
TO HIGHER EDUCATION AND CONTINUE
TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY.
I KNOW LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WANT
TO CONTRIBUTE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CREATING MORE 
JOBS, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 
THEM TO DEVELOP EXPERIENCE.
WE ALSO NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY WERE SUPPORTED DURING THIS 
SUMMER OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND 
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE.
>> Question: THE NUMBER OF CASES
OF COVID-19 AMONG MILITARY 
MEMBERS HELPING IN ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC IN LONG-TERM CARE HOMES 
HAS DOUBLED IN THE LAST WEEK.
WHY IS THE MILITARY NOT 
RECEIVING HAZARD PAY WHEN THEY 
ARE CLEARLY AT RISK?
>> Answer: THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS
ONGOING IN THE MILITARY.
WE NEED TO THANK THE MEN AND 
WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES 
STEPPING UP WHEN THEY ARE CALLED
ON TO GO INTO DIFFICULT OR RISKY
SITUATIONS TO DO THE WORK TO 
PROTECT CANADIANS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
WE THANK THEM AND SALUTE THEM. 
>> Question: YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL 
CALLS TO SPEAK TO THE U.N. SEAT.
WHAT IS CANADA OFFERING, VOTE 
FOR OTHER CANDIDATES?
WHAT WILL YOU OFFER ARAB 
COUNTRIES THIS AFTERNOON FOR 
THEIR SUPPORT AND WHAT DID YOU 
OFFER OTHER COUNTRIES FOR THEIR 
SUPPORT?
>> Answer: FROM THE BEGINNING 
CANADA HAS FRAMED THEIR 
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE SECURITY 
COUNCIL SMART SERVE A MEANS TO 
END.
WE HAVE TO SEE HOW WE SEE 
MULTILATERALISM AROUND THE WORLD
TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION ACROSS 
BORDERS TO CONTRIBUTING TO A 
BETTER WORLD MOVING FORWARD.
CANADA BRINGS THIS FRONT 
FORWARD.
WE ARE BIG TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE 
ON THE COUNCIL, BUT SMALL ENOUGH
NOT TO DO IT ALONE.
WE WANT TO REPRESENT THE PLANET 
WITHIN OUR OWN POPULATION AND 
MAKE THAT DIVERSITY AND 
DIFFERENCE A SOURCE OF STRENGTH 
NOT JUST IN CANADA BUT OUR 
MULTILATERAL ORGANIZATIONS.
CANADIANS HAVE AN IMPORTANT 
VOICE THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD ON 
THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL GOING 
FORWARD.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] THE U.N. SECURITY 
COUNCIL AND A SEAT THERE IS NOT 
A GOAL IN ITSELF.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 
CANADIANS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A 
POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE WORLD.
WE DEEPLY BELIEVE IN 
MULTICULTURALISM AND DURING THIS
CRISIS WE NEED TO COME OUT 
TOGETHER.
WE WANT COUNTRIES THAT USE 
PROPER VALUES AND PRINCIPLES AND
WE WANT PROPER DIVERSITY AROUND 
THE PLANET AS WELL SO WE CAN 
WORK TOGETHER ON CLIMATE CHANGE,
ON OUR ECONOMIC INVESTMENTS IN 
DEVELOPING COUNTRIES OR ON 
TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE.
WE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY AND 
CANADIANS ON THE SECURITY 
COUNCIL WILL HAVE A POSITIVE 
IMPACT ON THE WORLD AS A WHOLE.
THAT'S WHAT I TELL PEOPLE WHEN I
SPEAK TO OTHER WORLD LEADERS.
AS WE ALSO TALK ABOUT CHALLENGES
ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE 
AND COVID-19 THAT ARE ALSO ON 
THE AGENDA DURING THESE 
CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
[end of translation]
>> Rosemary: THAT IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER ON THIS FRIDAY GIVING 
US HIS GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO 
THE PANDEMIC.
THE LAST COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 
ABOUT CANADA'S BID TO WIN A SEAT
AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL, AT THE 
UNITED NATIONS.
THE PRIME MINISTER HAS A CALL 
WITH ARAB NATIONS THIS AFTERNOON
TO MAKE A PITCH.
THERE IS A GOOD CANADIAN PRESS 
STORY ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR TO 
THE UNITED NATIONS HEADING BACK 
DOWN TO NEW YORK TO CONTINUE 
THAT FINAL PUSH FOR THE SEAT FOR
CANADA.
THAT HAPPENS IN JUNE, THAT VOTE.
LOTS OF OTHER BITS OF NEWS FROM 
THE PRIME MINISTER.
LET ME BRING IN VASSY KAPELOS 
AND CATHERINE CULLEN.
VASSY, LOTS OF INFORMATION ABOUT
CONTACT TRACING AND TESTING.
ALSO ALMOST A PLEA TO PROVINCES 
WHO HAVEN'T ASKED FOR HELP TO 
ASK FOR IT BECAUSE THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS STANDING BY.
>> Vassy: IT WAS INTERESTING.
A LOT OF BROAD STOKES, AS YOU'RE
SAYING, ROSIE.
NOT A LOT OF SPECIFICS OF WHAT 
THE GOAL SHOULD BE.
A SPECIFIC QUESTION FROM JORDAN 
PRESS AT THE CANADIAN PRESS.
WHAT DOES THE LEVEL OF CONTACT 
TRACING NEED TO BE FOR CANADIANS
TO FEEL SAFE AND THERE WASN'T AN
ANSWER, BUT THERE WERE THINGS 
THE PRIME MINISTER DID PROVIDE.
NAMELY THAT THERE ARE CIVIL 
SERVANTS WHO CAN MAKE 3,600 
CONTACT TRACING CALLS A DAY, 
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AND THERE ARE 1,700 PEOPLE 
WORKING WITH STATISTICS CANADA 
THAT CAN MAKE AN ADDITIONAL 
20,000 CALLS A DAY.
HE NAMED ONTARIO AS A PROVINCE 
THAT ASKED FOR HELP.
HE DID NOT SPECIFICALLY NAME 
OTHERS, BUT SAID SOME OTHERS 
DON'T NEED IT TO THE SAME 
DEGREE.
MY MIND INITIALLY GOES TO QUEBEC
AND WONDER WHETHER OR NOT THERE 
IS A PROCESS THERE OR SOMETHING 
MORE TO THAT PART OF THE STORY.
I WONDER WITH ALL THOSE WHO WORK
WITH THE PRIME MINISTER AND THIS
IS NOT EXPECTED, THAT THE POINTS
OF TENSIONS WITH QUEBEC ARE 
CERTAINLY HIGHER TO BE AS 
ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE AS I CAN 
BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH 
OTHER PROVINCES.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE 
ON.
WHEN IT COMES TO CONTACT 
TRACING, BASED ON OUR QUESTION 
FROM OUR COLLEAGUE SALIMAH 
SHIVJI, SHE ASKED AROUND A 
CONTACT TRACING APP.
THE IDEA THAT APPLE AND GOOGLE 
ONLY WANT ONE APP PER COUNTRY.
WHETHER THE PRIME MINISTER HAS 
DISCUSSIONS ON THAT AND WHETHER 
THAT WILL BE THE CASE.
I THOUGHT HIS ANSWER WAS 
INTERESTING.
WHILE HE DIDN'T SAY, YES, WE'LL 
PROCURE THIS APP AND EVERY 
PROVINCE WILL HAVE TO SIGN ON.
HE DID SAY THEY WILL ARRIVE AT A
POINT WHERE -- HE HOPES THEY 
WILL ARRIVE AT A POINT WHERE 
THEY CAN RECOMMEND STRONGLY TO 
CANADIANS THAT THEY USE A 
PARTICULAR APP.
IF I READ BETWEEN THE LINES, IT 
SEEMS LIKE THERE WILL BE A DEAL 
WITH APPLE AND GOOGLE TO HAVE 
THAT APP AND THAT WILL BE THE 
MECHANISM FROM A TECHNOLOGICAL 
POINT OF VIEW FOR CONTACT 
TRACING IN THIS COUNTRY.
THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME AND THAT 
WILL BE SOMETHING TO KEEP OUR 
EYES ON WHEN THAT WILL ROLL OUT.
I THINK HE MENTIONED THE SUMMER.
>> Rosemary: JUNE.
>> Vassy: NOT TOO LONG.
WE SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE 
OF THE TECHNOLOGICAL ASPECT OF 
CONTACT TRACING AND HOW IT WILL 
PLAY OUT IN THIS COUNTRY. 
>> Rosemary: HE SEEMED TO KNOW 
MORE ABOUT THE APPS AND 
UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER THAN I 
DO.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THERE ARE 
CONVERSATIONS ONGOING WITH 
GOOGLE AND APPLE WHO ARE 
SUPPORTING THE DATA WITH 
WHATEVER APP WE DECIDE TO GO 
WITH.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME INFORMATION 
THAT ON THAT CALL WITH THE 
PREMIERS LAST NIGHT, SOME OF THE
CONCERN WAS THE INTER-PROVINCIAL
TRAVEL AND IF YOU ALL HAVE 
DIFFERENT APPS, HOW DOES THAT 
WORK AND DO YOU FEED INTO THAT, 
TO CONTAIN AND CONTACT TRACE.
CATHERINE, WHAT STOOD OUT FOR 
YOU?
>> Catherine: OBVIOUSLY ALL OF 
THIS WAS FRAMED VERY MUCH AS A 
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AS WE HAVE 
HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN SINCE 
THIS OUTBREAK, HOW IT'S THE MOST
COLLABORATIVE IT'S BEEN, TEAM 
CANADA EFFORT.
THAT POSITIVITY WITH HOW THE 
PRIME MINISTER APPROACHED THIS 
TODAY, BUT IMPLICIT WITH WHAT HE
SAID, THE MONEY IS THERE, THE 
PEOPLE ARE THERE, WE'RE GIVING 
YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED.
YOU JUST HAVE TO ASK FOR IT P IT
DOES PUT PRESSURE ON THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS THEY
ARE MAKING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE 
AVAILABLE.
SO THIS WORK HAS TO GET DONE.
THAT WAS IMPLICIT IN WHAT THE 
PRIME MINISTER SAID TODAY.
WE ALL WANT TO KNOW WHICH 
PROVINCES HAVE GRABBED ONTO THAT
HELP THE PRIME MINISTER HAS 
OFFERED HELP TO AND WHICH ONES 
HAVEN'T.
>> Rosemary: IF HE MADE A POINT 
OF MENTIONING ONTARIO WHO HAS 
REACHED OUT AND THEY ARE STILL 
TRENDING UPWARDS.
HE SAID SOME PROVINCES HAVE AND 
HAVEN'T.
IT MIGHT BE AN ATTEMPT TO 
DELICATELY URGE PREMIER LEGAULT.
I WANT TO END ON CHINA BECAUSE I
KNOW YOU'RE BOTH TRACKING THAT 
STORY ON DIFFERENT ANGLES.
HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THE SITUATION
ON FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON CHINA
ON HONG KONG.
CATHERINE, I'LL GET YOU TO 
START.
>> Catherine: I WAS STRUCK BY 
HIS CHOICE OF LANGUAGE.
I KNOW VASSY INTERVIEWED 
FRANÇOIS-PHILIPPE CHAMPAGNE LAST
NIGHT ON HER SHOW.
I'M STRUCK BY THE CONTRAST IN 
TONE BETWEEN WHAT HE IS SAYING 
AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN 
THE U.S.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE DIFFERENT 
RELATIONSHIPS WITH CHINA AND 
THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE
BACKGROUND WITH CANADA'S 
RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA.
IF I CAN FIND THE QUOTE BY MIKE 
POMPEO, CONDEMNING THE MOVE, 
SAYING IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
AND IN THE NEW LAW MIGHT HAVE 
SECURITY OFFICERS FROM BEIJING 
SET UP OFFICE IN HONG KONG.
THIS COULD BE THE END OF HONG 
KONG.
THE PRIME MINISTER IS QUITE 
CAUTIOUS IN THE TONE, CERTAINLY 
IN CONTRAST TO THE 
UNITED STATES. 
>> Rosemary: THAT HAS BEEN PART 
OF THE STORY OF THE PANDEMIC IS 
HOW GOVERNMENTS RESPOND TO CHINA
OR DESCRIBE THEIR INTERACTIONS 
WITH CHINA THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
IT DOES SEEM LIKE CHINA IS 
PICKING UP WHERE IT LEFT OFF 
WITH HONG KONG, AS THINGS SEEMED
TO DIE DOWN AROUND DEMOCRACY 
PROTESTS AND WHATNOT, AND NOW 
CHINA IS THERE TRYING TO AGAIN 
TAKE CONTROL IN SOME WAY OR 
DICTATE THE WAY THINGS UNFOLD IN
HONG KONG, VASSY.
>> Vassy: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO UNDERSCORE THIS SPEAKS TO 
WHAT YOU LAID OUT.
THIS NEW SECURITY LAW WHICH 
NEEDS TO BE RUBBER STAMPED WILL 
TARGET THOSE OPPOSED TO THE 
COMMUNIST REGIME IN CHINA.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ON THE 
EXTRADITION LAW HUGE PROTESTS, 
MANY OF WHICH ENDED UP TURNING 
VIOLENT.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE ARE 
300,000 CANADIANS THAT LIVE IN 
HONG KONG.
IT'S SUCH A DANGEROUS SITUATION 
THAT A DIPLOMATIC NOTICE WENT 
OUT TODAY SAYING WE ARE 
EXPECTING INCREASED PROTESTS 
BASED ON THIS SECURITY LAW.
CATHERINE IS RIGHT.
I WAS ABLE TO PULL UP THE QUOTE 
FROM MIKE POMPEO.
THE UNITED STATES CONDEMNS THE 
PROPOSAL TO UNILATERALLY IMPOSE 
LEGISLATION ON HONG KONG.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER SAID.
THEY'RE WAITING FURTHER DETAILS 
AND WAITING FOR IT TO PLAY OUT.
THE WORD HE USED WAS "CONCERN," 
THE SAME ONE FRANÇOIS-PHILIPPE 
CHAMPAGNE DID.
HE REITERATED THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT'S SUPPORT FOR A ONE 
COUNTRY, TWO SYSTEM APPROACH.
THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE 
ARE BEGINNING TO HEAR FROM SOME 
WORLD LEADERS.
I WOULD ADD A NOTE OF CAUTION.
IT'S NOT AS WIDESPREAD INITIALLY
WHEN THE EXTRADITION LAW WAS 
FLOATED.
WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHERE 
DOES THE INTERNATIONAL 
CONVERSATION GO.
ARE WE SEEN AS A LAGGARD AS WITH
OTHER CONVERSATIONS INVOLVING 
HONG KONG IN THE PAST OR DOES 
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKE A 
DIFFERENT APPROACH.
THEY ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE 
FACT THAT FOR HUNDREDS OF DAYS 
MICHAEL SPAVOR AND MICHAEL 
KOVRIG HAVE BEEN DETAINED IN 
CHINA. 
>> Rosemary: VERY CAREFUL WORDS.
THE U.S. VERY FIRMLY POINTED TO 
CHINA AS ONE OF THE NATIONS THAT
MIGHT BE DOING THAT SPYING OR 
TRYING TO GET TAPPING INTO THAT 
RESEARCH.
CANADA WOULDN'T GO DOWN THE ROAD
TO NAME ANY OF THE NATION STATES
INVOLVED IN THAT.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU THERE.
VASSY KAPELOS, HER SHOW "POWER &
POLITICS" ON AT 5:00 EASTERN ON 
CBC NEWS NETWORK.
CATHERINE CULLEN, YOU CAN CATCH 
HER ON "THE NATIONAL" LATER 
TONIGHT.
>>> BEFORE YOU GO, WE ARE 
WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE LEADER 
OF THE OPPOSITION, ANDREW 
SCHEER.
AS YOU HEARD FROM THE PRIME 
MINISTER THERE, LOTS OF ONGOING 
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS
ON MONDAY.
MONDAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE 
RETURN OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 
IN ITS FULL FORMAT, ALTHOUGH 
PROBABLY NOT WITH 338 M.P.s, 
EVERYONE AGREES THAT IS NOT A 
GOOD IDEA.
BUT THE CONSERVATIVES AND THE 
OPPOSITION ARE PUSHING TO HAVE 
THIS MOVE FORWARD SO THEY CAN 
HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 
MORE TOPICS.
MR. SCHEER SAYS THAT'S IMPORTANT
TO HOLD THE GOVERNMENT TO 
ACCOUNT.
WE ARE STANDING BY TO BRING THAT
TO YOU.
I WANT TO GET THIS INTERVIEW TO 
YOU IF WE CAN.
DR. CHRIS 
