 
HERE AT PEOC BECAUSE THAT IS 
HOW YOU KEEP YOURSELF AND 
OTHERS SAFE AND TO ALL THE 
YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WORKING 
HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, 
THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING 
SERVICE.
SINCE MARCH, CANADIAN HAVE BEEN 
WORKING AROUND-THE-CLOCK TO 
KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE.
AND TOGETHER, WE'VE COME UP 
WITH INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO 
MEET AN UNPRECEDENTED CHALLENGE.
A FEW WEEK AGO, I ANNOUNCED 
THAT OUR GOVERNMENT WAS WORKING 
WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO, 
BLACKBERRY AND SHOPIFY 
VOLUNTEERS ON A NEW APP TO HELP 
SLOW THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.
AS OF THIS MORNING, THE COVID 
ALERT APP IS READY TO DOWNLOAD 
THROUGH THE APP STORE ON YOUR 
PHONE.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS CONNECTED TO 
THE ONTARIO HEALTH SYSTEM, BUT 
WE KNOW OTHER PROVINCES WILL BE 
JOINING IN SOON.
SO PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
CAN AND SHOULD DOWNLOAD IT 
TODAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL TO PROTECT 
YOUR HEALTH.
HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.
THE APP WILL LET YOU KNOW IF 
YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH 
SOMEONE WHO HAS THE APP AND HAS 
TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, IT WILL 
THEN ENCOURAGE YOU TO CALL YOUR 
PROVINCIAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR 
GUIDANCE ON WHAT TO DO.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS APP ISN'T MANDATORY.
IT'S COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY TO 
DOWNLOAD AND TO USE AND IT 
DOESN'T COLLECT YOUR NAME, YOUR 
ADDRESS, YOUR GEO LOCATION OR 
ANY OTHER PERSONAL INFORMATION.
I'VE DOWNLOADED THE APP THIS 
MORNING AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO 
DO THE SAME.
THE MORE PEOPLE USE IT, THE 
BETTER IT CAN TRACE AND, 
THEREFORE, SPREAD THE SLOW OF 
THE VIRUS.
IN FACT, HEALTH EXPERTS SAY IF 
ENOUGH PEOPLE SIGN UP, THIS APP 
CAN HELP PREVENT FUTURE 
OUTBREAKS OF COVID-19 IN CANADA.
I KNOW THAT PREMIER FORD FOR 
HIS PARTNERSHIP IN GETTING THIS 
PROGRAMME UP AND RUNNING.
WE'RE WORKING HARD WITH OUR 
ATLANTIC PROVINCIAL PARTNERS TO 
INTEGRATE THEIR HEALTH SYSTEMS 
INTO THE APP NEXT AND AT THE 
SAME TIME WE'RE IN DISCUSSION 
WITH OTHER PROVINCES AND WE 
EXPECT THAT THEY WILL BE COMING 
ON BOARD SOON AS WELL.
[Speaking French] 
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: AT 
THIS POINT, THE APPLICATION IS 
KEXED TO THE ONTARIO HEALTH 
CARE SYSTEM, BUT WE KNOW THAT 
OTHER PROVINCES WILL STILL BE 
COMING ONLINE.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE CAN 
AND SHOULD DOWNLOAD THE APP FOR 
FREE TODAY.
THE APP WILL LET YOU KNOW IF 
YOU HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH 
SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS THE APP 
AND WHO HAS TESTED POSITIVE FOR 
COVID-19.
IF THAT HAPPENS, YOU WILL BE 
DIRECTED TO HEALTH AUTHORITIES 
IN YOUR PROVINCE AND THEY WILL 
EXPLAIN WHAT TO DO NEXT.
THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE'RE 
MAKING AVAILABLE TO YOU TO 
PROTECT YOUR HEALTH.
NO ONE IS OBLIGED TO DOWNLOAD 
THE APP, BUT THE MORE PEOPLE 
USE IT, THE BETTER IT WILL WORK.
IN FACT, HEALTH CARE EXPERTS 
ARE SAYING IF ENOUGH PEOPLE 
COULD USE IT, THAT COULD HELP 
TO PREVENT FUTURE OUTBREAK OF 
COVID-19 IN THE COUNTRY.
I DOWNLOADED IT MYSELF THIS 
MORNING AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO 
DO THE SAME THING AS SOON AS 
POSSIBLE, AS SOON AS TODAY.
THE APP WILL NOT BE COLLECTING 
YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, GEO 
LOCATION OR ANY PERSONAL 
INFORMATION.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
SINCE THE START OF THE 
PANDEMIC, OUR GOVERNMENT HAS 
WORKED HARD TO KEEP CANADIANS 
SAFE WHILE GETTING PEOPLE THE 
SUPPORT THEY NEED.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW THERE'S 
STILL MORE TO BE DONE.
SO, TODAY, WE'RE TAKING YET 
ANOTHER STEP FORWARD.
I CAN ANNOUNCE THAT OUR 
GOVERNMENT IS INVESTING ALMOST 
$59 MILLION TO PROTECT THE 
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF MIGRANT 
WORKERS ON CANADIAN FARMS.
THIS WILL FUND MORE FARM 
INSPECTIONS, PROVIDE EMERGENCY 
RELIEF, WHEN NEEDED, AND 
IMPROVE THE OVERALL LIVING 
CONDITIONS ON FARMS.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT HELP IS 
NEEDED RIGHT NOW IN MANY 
LOCATIONS.
CURRENTLY, THANKS TO THE $100 
MILLION INVESTMENT WE ANNOUNCED 
IN MAY, THE RED CROSS IS 
HELPING THE MOST AT-RISK 
WORKERS IN THE WINDSOR-ESSEX 
REGION IN PARTICULAR.
OUR MINISTERS ARE LOOKING AT 
WAYS TO IMPROVE THE TEMPORARY 
FOREIGN WORKER PROGRAMME AS A 
WHOLE.
THIS INCLUDES MEASURES LIKE 
DEVELOPING MANDATORY 
REQUIREMENTS FOR BETTER LIVING 
CONDITIONS FOR WORKERS SO THAT 
WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND 
PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP 
FOOD ON OUR PLATES.
[Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: 
WHETHER YOU ARE A STUDENT OR 
YOU'RE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT FULL 
TIME, THERE ARE MANY 
OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW IN THE 
AGRICULTURE AND AGRIFOOD 
INDUSTRY.
PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THAT AREA 
FEED OUR FAMILIES AND KEEP OUR 
GROCERY SHELVES STOCKED.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, I 
ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND OUT SOME 
INFORMATION ABOUT THE 
PROGRAMME, WHICH IS AVAILABLE 
ON THE SITE AGR.GC.CA.
I ALSO WANT TO TALK TO YOU 
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO 
SUPPORT WORKERS AND BUSINESSES 
ALL ACROSS THE ECONOMY.
FIRST OF ALL, WE KNOW THAT FOR 
MANY BUSINESSES, PAYING RENT 
AFTER MONTHS OF LOSING REVENUE 
IS NOT EASY TO DO.
IN THE SPRING, WE BROUGHT IN 
THE CANADA EMERGENCY COMMERCIAL 
RENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME THAT 
MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO REDUCE 
SMALL BUSINESSES'S RENT BY 75%.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: HAVE 
BENEFITED FROM THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY COMMERCIAL RENT 
ASSISTANCE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS 
BECAUSE OF THE HELP BUSINESSES 
GOT THROUGH THIS PROGRAMME.
AND WE KNOW THERE ARE EVEN MORE 
PEOPLE STILL TO REACH.
AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE 
OFFICIALLY EXTENDING THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY COMMERCIAL RENT 
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME FOR THE 
MONTH OF AUGUST.
TODAY, I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK 
ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT FOR THE 
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO STILL 
RELY ON THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
RESPONSE BENEFIT.
IN THE WEEKS AHEAD, WE'LL HAVE 
MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT WILL 
COME AFTER THE CERB.
BUT TO PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS 
PROGRAMME, DON'T WORRY.
NO ONE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND.
OUR GOAL IS TO TRANSITION 
EVERYONE ON THE CERB TO 
EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.
BECAUSE E.I. SHOULD COVER EVERY 
CANADIAN WHO'S LOOKING FOR WORK.
AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T QUALIFY 
FOR E.I. RIGHT NOW, LIKE GIG OR 
CONTRACT WORKERS, WE WILL 
CREATE A TRAEEN SISTERINGAL 
PARALLEL BENEFIT THAT IS 
SIMILAR TO EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.
IT WILL INCLUDE ACCESS TO 
TRAINING AND BEING ABLE TO WORK 
MORE HOURS AND EARN MORE MONEY 
WHILE RECEIVING THE BENEFIT.
THAT IS ONLY APPROPRIATE AS OUR 
ECONOMY RE-OPENS AND BRINGS 
BACK MORE JOBS.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A SICKNESS 
AND CAREGIVER'S BENEFIT FOR 
CANADIANS NOT COVERED AT WORK 
IF THEY GET COVID-19, IF THEIR 
KIDS OR PARENTS GET IT AND THEY 
HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS TO 
SHARE BEFORE THE END OF AUGUST, 
BUT HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
WE INTEND TO COVER EVERY 
CANADIAN LOOKING FOR WORK WITH 
A BETTER 21ST CENTURY E.I. 
SYSTEM.
THAT IS OUR GOAL.
AND, OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE 
NO INCREASE TO OE. I. PREMIUMS 
DURING THIS CHALLENGE TIME.
[Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: OUR 
GOAL IS TO TRANSFER EVERYONE 
CURRENTLY RECEIVING THE CERB TO 
THE EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEM.
EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SHOULD 
COVER ALL CANADIAN LOOKING FOR 
WORK AND FOR THOSE WHO WON'T 
HAVE ACCESS TO IT, SUCH AS 
CONTRACT WORKERS, WE WILL BE 
CREATING A TRANSITIONAL BENEFIT 
SIMILAR TO E.I. 
THAT BENEFIT WILL PROVIDE 
ACCESS TO TRAINING AND ALLOW 
PEOPLE TO RETURN TO WORK AND 
EARN MORE MONEY WHILE 
CONTINUING TO RECEIVE THE 
BENEFITS.
WE WILL ALSO CREATE A SICKNESS 
AND CAREGIVER'S BENEFIT FOR 
FAMILY CAREGIVERS.
IF YOU CANNOT WORK BECAUSE 
YOU'RE ILL OR CARING FOR 
SOMEONE, WE'LL STILL BE THERE 
FOR YOU.
WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL DETAILS 
TO PROVIDE IN THE COMING WEEKS.
BUT THIS IS THE IMPORTANT THING.
IT IS OUR INTENTION TO COVER 
ALL CANADIANS CURRENTLY LOOKING 
FOR WORK THROUGH AN IMPROVED 
E.I. SYSTEM THAT IS SUITABLE 
FOR THE 21ST CENTURY.
AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL NOT BE 
INCREASING EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE 
PREMIUMS DURING THIS DIFFICULT 
TIME.
THANK YOU.
I'M NOW HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR 
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, PRIME MINISTER.
WE'LL START ON THE PHONES.
A REMINER, WITH QUESTION, ONE 
FOLLOW-UP.
OPERATOR IN
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[Speaking French] 
>> Reporter: [Speaking French] 
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: I'D 
LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOUR 
TESTIMONY.
YOU SAID DWLAED YOU DIDN'T KNOW 
THAT MR. MORNEAU HAD TRAVELED 
UNDER THE AUSPICES OF WE.
COULD YOU TELL US WHETHER IT 
WAS A GOOD IDEA.
DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE 
THE MINISTER OF FINANCE IN A 
G-7 COUNTRY THAT YOU SHOULD 
TAKE YOUR HAT OFF AND GO AND 
ENGAGE IN THIS KIND OF TRAVEL?
WELL, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT 
OF PEOPLE, WHATEVER THEIR JOB, 
WHO ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING 
AND SUPPORTING ORGANISATIONS 
WHO ARE DOING GREAT WORK AROUND 
THE WORLD.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS A SITUATION 
WHERE PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR 
MR. MORNEAU.
BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, 
SEEING PEOPLE, WHATEVER THEIR 
JOB WHO GET INVOLVED IN THEIR 
COMMUNITY OR WANTING TO HELP 
OUT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE, NOT 
JUST TAKING PERSONAL TRAVEL.
BUT HELPING AND SUPPORTING 
IMPORTANT CAUSES AROUND THE 
WORLD.
WELL, I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND 
THAT GENERALLY THAT IS A GOOD 
IDEA.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE QUESTIONS 
FOR MR. MORNEAU THAT HE HAS 
ALREADY ADDRESSED.
BUT THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE ON 
THEIR PERSONAL VACATION WOULD 
CHOOSE TO SUPPORT A GOOD CAUSE 
OR GET INVOLVED IN HELPING MAKE 
THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE IS NOT 
SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, YOU 
KNOW, REJECT OR TURN AWAY FROM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A LOT OF 
DIFFERENT JOBS ARE LOOKING TO 
SEE HOW THEY CAN MAKE A GREATER 
DIFFERENCE IN HELPING PEOPLE 
AROUND THE WORLD AND THAT IS 
CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE 
SHOULD REMAIN OPEN TO.
>> Reporter: [Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: SO I 
UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT, SHOEED 
BY THAT TRAVEL.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE 
WHO ARE ASKING MR. MORNEAU TO 
RESIGN IN CONTEXT WHERE WE'RE 
TALKING ABOUT A DEFICIT OF $350 
BILLION.
DO YOU INTEND TO MAKE A CHANGE 
THERE?
>> 
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT, 
OF COURSE, AS MR. MORNEAU HAS 
ALREADY SAID, IT WAS A MISTAKE 
FOR HIM NOT TO REFUND OR 
REIMBURSE THE COSTS OF THAT 
TRAVEL.
AND HE APOLOGIZED FOR THAT.
BUT LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE 
WORK WE HAVE DONE AND 
PARTICULARLY THE WORK DONE BY 
THE MINISTER OF FINANCE MANY 
RECENT MONTHS TO HELP MILLIONS 
OF CANADIANS IN AN EXTREMELY 
TOUGH SITUATION REMAINS AND 
REMAINS -- CONTINUES TO REMAIN 
OUR PRIORITY.
AS I ANNOUNCED TODAY, WE'LL 
CONTINUE TO BE THERE FOR PEOPLE 
WHO NEED HELP IN THIS TIME OF 
UNCERTAINTY.
EVEN AS THE ECONOMY STARTS TO 
RE-OPEN, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE 
MANY PEOPLE THAT STILL NEED OUR 
HELP AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK 
FOR THEM.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: AS 
MR. MORNEAU HIMSELF 
HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, HE 
APOLOGIZED AND HE SHOULD NOT 
HAVE ACCEPTED THE ELEMENTS OF 
THAT THAT WERE GIFTS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE WORK THAT 
WE'RE DOING, THE WORK THAT HE 
HAS DONE AS FINANCE MINISTER 
CONTINUES TO DO IN BEING THERE 
FOR CANADIANS.
AS I TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO BE 
THERE FOR THE MILLIONS OF 
CANADIANS THROUGH THE CERB, 
THROUGH THE WAGE SUBSIDY AND 
OTHER PROGRAMMES WHILE WE 
CONTINUE THIS PANDEMIC.
EVEN AS WE'RE SEEING THE 
ECONOMY RE-OPEN IN MANY WAYS, 
THERE ARE STILL MILLIONS OF 
CANADIANS LOOKING FOR WORK AND 
FOR WHOM THERE ARE NO JOBS.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO STAY 
FOCUSED ON DOING THAT WORK TO 
KEEP CANADIANS SUPPORTED 
THROUGH THIS HISTORIC PANDEMIC.
[Speaking French] NEXT 
QUESTION, OPERATOR.
>> Operator: MERCI.
[Speaking French]
>> Reporter: [Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: GOOD 
MORNING.
STILL ABOUT YESTERDAY'S 
TESTIMONY, WHY DID YOU NOT SEE 
THE RED FLAGS THAT WERE VERY 
CLEAR ON MAY 8?
AND GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE 
CABINET DECISION.
WELL, WHAT I SAW ON MAY 8 
PROMPTED ME TO PUSH BACK ON 
THIS PROGRAMME AND SAY IF THAT 
IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE 
PUBLIC SERVICE TO MOVE FORWARD 
WITH THE WE CHARITY, THEN IT 
WAS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE THAT 
THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION AND 
IT COULD BE JUSTIFIED.
NOW THOSE RED FLAGS THAT I SAW 
PROMPTED ME TO SAY, OK, LET'S 
SLOW IT DOWN.
LET'S DO SOME ADDITIONAL CHECKS 
AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, IN 
FACT, THE ONLY ORGANIZATION 
THAT CAN DELIVER THIS KIND OF 
PROGRAMME.
AND I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT 
EVERYTHING WAS DONE ACCORDING 
TO THE RULES.
THAT WAS MY RESPONSE.
AS I SAID A FEW WEEK AGO, IT 
WOULD HAVE BEEN PREFERABLE FOR 
ME TO STEP AWAY FROM THAT 
DECISION AND THAT I NOT EVEN 
TAKE PART IN THE DISCUSSION.
BUT I DECIDED TO PUSH BACK AND 
FORCE MORE CHECKS AND NOW THAT 
PROGRAMME IS IN DIFFICULTY.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WHEN 
I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION ON 
MAY 8 THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE 
WAS RECOMMENDING WE CHARITY TO 
DELIVER THIS PROGRAMME, I 
PUSHED BACK.
I SAID LET'S MAKE SURE THAT, 
INDEED, THIS IS THE ONLY 
ORGANIZATION THAT CAN DELIVER 
THIS PROGRAMME, THAT EVERYTHING 
ABOUT THIS PROGRAMME IS TIGHTLY 
BUCKLED DOWN, THAT WE KNOW 
EXACTLY THAT IT'S THE RIGHT 
PROGRAMME, THAT THE PUBLIC 
SERVICE ARE ABSOLUTELY 
CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE ONLY 
WAY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS 
PROGRAMME.
AS WE LOOK BACK IN HINDSIGHT, 
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER 
INSTEAD OF PUSHING BACK AND 
ASKING FOR EXTRA VERIFICATION, 
I HAD SIMPLY REMOVED MYSELF 
ENTIRELY FROM THE DISCUSSION.
PUSHING ON MAKING SURE THAT IT 
WAS THE RIGHT PROGRAMME WAS 
SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE FOR THE 
RIGHT REASONS AND IN THE RIGHT 
WAY.
>> Reporter: FRIENDING FRIENDING
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: 
FOLLOW-UP?
YES, YOU ASKED THEM TO DO 
ADDITIONAL CHECKS.
YOU WANTED THE PUBLIC SERVICE 
TO DO ITS DUE DILIGENCE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DID YOU 
THINK THAT THIS MIGHT CAUSE 
PROBLEMS OR DID IT NOT OCCUR TO 
YOU?
WELL, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT 
ORGANIZATION AND THE ENTIRE 
SITUATION, IN FACT, PROMPTED ME 
INSTEAD OF REMOVING MYSELF FROM 
THE DISCUSSION, PUSHING BACK 
AGAINST THE DECISION TO MAKE 
SURE THAT EVERYONE DID THE 
NECESSARY CHECKS AND 
VERIFICATIONS IN ISING TO WHAT 
THEY'D ALREADY DONE.
I WANTED TO ENSURE IN THE WEEK 
THAT FOLLOWED THAT THEY HAD, IN 
FACT, CHECKED OUT EVERYTHING, 
DONE THE NECESSARY FOLLOW-UPS 
AND THAT THEY WERE VERY 
CONFIDENT ABOUT THEIR 
RECOMMENDATIONS AND ONLY THAT 
ORGANIZATION COULD DELIVER THE 
PROGRAMME.
AND AS I SAID S I TRUST THE 
PUBLIC SERVICE, THEY ARE 
EXTRAORDINARY AND DURING THIS 
PANDEMIC, THEY HAVE DELIVERED 
PROGRAMME AFTER PROGRAMME.
NEW PROGRAMMES THAT HAVE NEVER 
BEEN SEEN BEFORE THAT WERE VERY 
EFFECTIVE IN HELPING MILLIONS 
OF CANADIAN AND IN A FLEXIBLE 
AND CREATIVE WAY.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: AS I 
SAID, WHEN I HEARD THAT THIS 
PROGRAMME WAS BEING CHOSEN TO 
DELIVER THE CSSG, I PUSHED BACK.
I SHOULD HAVE, IN HINDSIGHT, 
PULLED AWAY AND SAID I DON'T 
WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT 
ALL.
I SHOULDN'T BECAUSE OF FAMILY 
CONNECTIONS.
INSTEAD, I SAID, WHOA, WHOA, 
WHOA, LET'S PUT THE BRAKES ON.
LET'S CHECK.
LET'S GO DO EXTRA VERIFICATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY HINDSIGHT  IS ALWAYS 
20/20 AND I WISH I HAD  RECUSED 
MYSELF INSTEAD BECAUSE RIGHT 
NOW IT IS NOT DELIVERING TO 
STUDENTS VOLUNTEERING ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY.
I ASKED THE PUBLIC SERVICE TO 
REALLY DIG IN AND TRIPLE CHECK.
I ASKED THE MINISTERS TO TRIPLE 
CHECK AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 
COULD CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT THIS 
TRULY WAS THE ONLY PROGRAMME 
THAT COULD -- THE ONLY 
ORGANIZATION THAT COULD DELIVER 
THIS PROGRAMME IN TIME FOR THIS 
SUMMER AND WHEN THE ANSWERS 
CAME BACK THAT, YES, INDEED, IT 
IS THE ONLY PROGRAMME THAT 
COULD DO IT, I ALLOWED IT TO GO 
TO CABINET FOR AN UP OR DOWN 
DECISION.
EITHER WE HAVE THIS SUMMER 
GRANT PROGRAMME THROUGH WE 
ORGANIZATION OR WE DO NOT HAVE 
A SUMMER GRANT PROGRAMME AT ALL.
>> THANK YOU.
ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE PHONE.
OPERATOR?
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
LINE OPEN, "TORONTO STAR".
>> Reporter: GOOD AFTERNOON.
AFTER THOSE RED FLAGS CAME UP 
FOR YOU WHEN YOU SAW THE 
PROPOSAL ON MAY 8, BETWEEN MAY 
8 AND THE 22ND WHEN CABINET 
APPROVED IT, DID YOU OR YOUR 
STAFF GO TO THE ETHICS 
COMMISSIONER AND ASK ABOUT YOUR 
FAMILY'S TIES TO WE AND IF THIS 
WAS A PROBLEM?
DID YOU DISCUSS THAT AT ALL IN 
THAT TIME PRAIM WITH THE ETHICS 
COMMISSIONER?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: NO, 
WE DID NOT.
AS I SAID, THE ETHICS 
COMMISSIONER HAD ALREADY 
CLEARED MY WIFE FOR WORKING IN 
AN UNPAID BASIS WITH THE WE 
ORGANIZATION THROUGH A PODCAST 
AND THROUGH EVENTS WHERE THEY 
COVERED HER TRAVEL-RELATED 
EXPENSES, BUT DID NOT PAY HER.
THAT WAS ALREADY PRECLEARED BY 
THE ETHICS COMMISSIONER.
>> Reporter: THE DUE DILIGENCE 
THAT YOU ASKED FOR IN THAT 
TIME, DID ANY OF IT ADDRESS 
YOUR WORRY ABOUT A PERCEIVED 
CONFLICT OR ANYTHING THAT WAS 
DONE TO ADDRESS THAT OR DID YOU 
ULTIMATELY DECIDE THAT THE 
PROGRAMME WAS WORTH OVERLOOKING 
YOUR WORRIES ABOUT A PERCEIVED 
CONFLICT.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
DUE DILIGENCE I ASKED FOR WAS 
ABOUT REALLY BEING ABLE TO 
STAND IN FRONT OF CANADIANS AND 
IN FRONT OF CRITIQUES FROM THE 
OPPOSITION THAT WERE 
UNDOUBTEDLY TO COME BECAUSE OF 
THIS PROGRAMME'S LINKS TO ME 
AND TO A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF 
MY GOVERNMENT THAT THIS WAS THE 
RIGHT RECOMMENDATION MADE 
INDEPENDENTLY OF ANY OF THOSE 
ISSUES.
THE DUE DILIGENCE I PUSHED ON 
WAS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THIS 
WAS, INDEED, THE RIGHT 
PROGRAMME, THE ONLY PROGRAMME 
ABLE TO -- THE ONLY WAY TO BE 
ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 
PROGRAMME.
>> Reporter: HI, PRIME MINISTER.
TOM PARRY, CBC.
ON THE APP, WHAT IS THE HOLDUP 
FOR GETTING OTHER PROVINCES TO 
BUY INTO THIS AND DO YOU HAVE A 
TIMELINE FOR WHEN THIS WILL BE 
A NATIONAL PROGRAMME?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
EXCELLENT QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL, THE APP IS 
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE 
DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 
ONTARIO.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF 
DECISIONS WE HAD TO TAKE.
WE HAD TO WAIT FOR APPLE AND 
GOOGLE TO UPDATE THEIR 
OPERATING SYSTEMS SO THEY COULD 
DO THE BLUETOOTH HANDSHAKES IN 
THE BACKGROUND THAT THE APP 
RELIES ON.
MANY OF THE OTHER APPS TRIED IN 
OTHER JURISDICTIONS LIKE 
AUSTRALIA AND SINGAPORE, 
REQUIRED A LEVEL OF ACTIVITY IN 
THE FRONT OF YOUR PHONE THAT 
MEANT EVEN PEOPLE WHO 
DOWNLOADED IT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, 
OFTEN USE IT TO ITS FULL 
CAPACITY.
SO, WE WERE RELIANT ON THE 
OPERATING SYSTEMS TO BE UPDATED.
AS THAT HAPPENED, WE THEN 
WORKED WITH EXPERTS FROM 
BLACKBERRY AND SHOPIFY AND 
OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 
CODE WAS RIGHT, DID A 
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BETA 
TESTING AND NOW ONTARIO IS 
READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
IT IS OUR LARGEST PROVINCE.
THEY HAVE DONE EXTRAORDINARY 
WORK IN CREATING THOSE LINKS 
WITH THEIR PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOW WHAT IS 
NEEDED TO HAPPEN AND WE'RE 
LOOKING AT THE MARITIMES NEXT 
AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROVINCES 
THAT ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO 
ALIGN WITH THIS, IS THEY HAVE 
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR 
PROVINCIAL AND TERRITORIAL 
PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES HAVE THE 
ABILITY TO GIVE TO ANYONE WHO 
TESTS POSITIVE A CODE THAT THEY 
CAN THEN INPUT INTO THE APP SO 
THAT THE SYSTEM KNOWS THAT 
THEIR PHONE -- OR THEY HAVE 
TESTED POSITIVE.
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE I 
WOULD WANT TO KNOW.
PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF 
SOMEONE WHO THEY CAME IN 
CONTACT WITH OVER THE PAST FEW 
DAYS SUDDENLY TESTED POSITIVE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHO.
AND THERE'S NO PRIVACY 
INFORMATION SHARED IN THIS.
BUT YOU WILL KNOW IF SOMEONE 
YOU WERE IN PROXIMITY WITH OVER 
THE PAST TWO WEEKS HAS SUDDENLY 
TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID, 
YOU'LL GET A NOTIFICATION THAT 
SAYS YOU SHOULD CALL YOUR LOCAL 
PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY AND, YOU 
KNOW, ASK FOR GUIDANCE ON THE 
NEXT STEPS.
BUT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO 
THAT IN EACH PROVINCE, WE HAVE 
TO CO-ORDINATE WITH THE LOCAL 
PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY TO DO THAT.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING 
ON NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SYSTEM 
UP AND RUNNING IN ONTARIO, IN 
OUR LARGEST PROVINCE.
IT WILL HOPEFULLY BE UP AND 
RUNNING FOR LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH 
AGENCIES RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY IN THE COMING WEEKS.
[Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: WHEN 
IT COMES TO THE APP, WE HAVE 
BEEN WORKING WITH AN ONTARIO TO 
DEVELOP IT.
WE HAD TO DEVELOP IT WITH 
GOOGLE AND APPLE IN ORDER TO 
ALLOW THE BLUE TOOTH 
CONNECTIONS TO HAPPEN 
AUTOMATICALLY WITHOUT THERE 
BEING A NEED FOR THE UZ YEAR TO 
WORRY ABOUT THAT.
THAT HAS BEEN DONE NOW.
ONE THE BETA TESTING WAS CARE 
OUT, WHICH IT HAS, WE'RE NOW 
ABLE TO LAUNCH THE APPLICATION 
ACROSS CANADA WITH MAXIMUM 
FUNCTIONALTY IN ONTARIO BECAUSE 
THE ONTARIO HEALTH SYSTEM NOW 
HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE ANYONE 
WHO TESTS POSITIVE A CODE.
SO THAT THE APP CAN SHARE THE 
FACT THAT THERE WAS A POSITIVE 
TEST.
NOW AS I SAID, THERE WILL BE NO 
SHARING OF PERSONAL INFORMATION 
WHATSOEVER.
A PERSON WHO TESTS POSITIVE 
WILL, THROUGH THIS CODE IN THE 
PHONE, BE ABLE TO ADVISE OTHER 
PEOPLE THAT HE MAY HAVE HAD OR 
SHE MAY HAVE HAD EXACT IN 
RECENT WEEKS.
THAT THAT PERSON HAS TESTED 
POSITIVE.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S -- IT 
PROVIDES FOR ABSOLUTE 
PROTECTION OF PERSONAL 
INFORMATION AND MAKES IT 
POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THE 
CHOICE OF HELPING THEIR 
COMMUNITY.
AND TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE HAD 
ANY CONTACT WITH SOMEONE WHO 
HAS TESTED POSITIVE.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH 
THE OTHER PROVINCES.
WE EXPECT THAT THE ATLANTIC 
PROVINCES WILL BE JOINING IN 
VERY SOON.
AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ALL 
THE OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH 
AUTHORITIES IN THE PROVINCES 
AND TERRITORIES SO THEY THAT  
-- SO THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT 
FROM ALL THE GRANTS.
>> Reporter: IS THE PROGRAMME 
NOW DEAD AND, IF IT IS, WHAT 
ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO HELP THE 
STUDENTS RELYING ON IT AND WHAT 
ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE 
MONEY THAT YOU SET ASIDE FOR 
IT? >> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
FIRST OF ALL, WE CONTINUE TO 
ROLL OUT MASSIVE SUPPORTS FOR 
YOUNG PEOPLE, FOR STUDENTS 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THE CANADA EMERGENCY RESPONSE 
BENEFIT FOR STUDENTS GIVES 
$1200 TO MANY, MANY STUDENTS 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND, INDEED, 
MORE HELP THAN THAT TO STUDENTS 
WITH DEPENDENCE OR LIVING WITH 
DISABILITIES.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE CREATED MORE 
JOBS FOR THE SUMMER JOBS 
PROGRAMME.
WE DID A DEFERRAL OF STUDENT 
LOANS.
ALL THESE THINGS ARE CONTINUING 
TO SUPPORT.
WHAT WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH THE 
CSSG IS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WHO 
ARE RIGHT NOW BUSY VOLUNTEERING 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN MANY 
DIFFERENT ORGANISATIONS WILL 
NOT, UNFORTUNATELY, GET CREDIT 
FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE 
VOLUNTEERING THAT WOULD HAVE 
LED TO $1,000, UP TO $5,000 
GRANT BECAUSE OF THEIR 
VOLUNTEERISM.
THAT IS THE ELEMENT THAT IS NOT 
HAPPENING SO FAR AND WE'RE 
STILL LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN 
CO-ORDINATE, OVERSEE AND 
DELIVER THE GRANTS LIKE THAT TO 
STUDENTS.
WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR IT.
AT THE SAME TIME, JUST BECAUSE 
THE GRANTS AREN'T FLOWING 
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOUNG PEOPLE 
ARE NOT STEPPING UP IN A MYRIAD 
OF WAYS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO 
SUPPORT CANADIANS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
[Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: WE 
HAVE INTRODUCED A GREAT MANY 
MEASURES TO HELP STUDENTS.
THE STUDENT EMERGENCY RESPONSE 
BENEFIT THAT GIVES THE STUDENTS 
$1250 A MONTH AND IS HELPING 
THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS.
AND EVEN MORE IF THOSE STUDENTS 
HAVE CHILDREN OR ARE LIVING 
WITH THE DISABILITIES.
WE ALSO CREATED ADDITIONAL 
SUPPORT MEASURES IN TERMS OF 
MORE GRANTS.
WE ADDED JOBS TO THE 
CANADA-STUDENT JOBS PROGRAMME.
SO WE CAN'T TO SUPPORT YOUNG 
PEOPLE.
BUT THUS FAR, WE HAVE NOT BEEN 
ABLE TO PROVIDE THE $1,000 TO 
$5,000 TO STUDENTS WHO ARE 
HELPING OUT THIS THEIR 
COMMUNITIES.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT THERE ARE 
THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO 
ARE ALREADY VOLUNTEERING 
ACTIVELY THIS SUMMER.
THEY ARE ALREADY HELPING OUT IN 
THEIR COMMUNITIES.
BUT WITH THE DELAYS ASSOCIATED 
WITH THIS PROGRAMME AND THE 
PROBLEMS WE THAT WILL NOT BE 
ABLE TO DELIVER IT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT CHALLENGES IN 
TERMS OF REWARDING THOSE YOUNG 
PEOPLE AT THIS POINT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE 
MANY YOUNG PEOPLE STILL SERVING 
THEIR COMMUNITIES.
>> Reporter: WHAT EXACTLY DID 
YOUR STAFFER TELL WE ON MAY 5 
THAT LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE THAT 
IT WAS ACTUALLY OK FOR THEM TO 
START SPENDING REAL MONEY ON A 
VOLUNTEERING PROGRAMME PLAN 
THAT HADN'T YET MADE IT TO 
CABINET?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THIS 
WAS THE CONVERSATIONS, AS I 
UNDERSTAND IT, BETWEEN RICK 
THEISS AND WE WAS A QUICK 
CONVERSATION MANY WHICH HE 
REFERRED THEM BACK TO OESDC.
AS THE KIELBURGERS SAID A FEW 
DAYS AGO IN THEIR TESTIMONY, 
THEY MADE THE DECISION THAT IF 
THE PROGRAMME WAS GOING TO BE 
DELIVERED, THEY SHOULD START 
DOING WORK EVEN BEFORE IT WAS 
APPROVED BY CABINET.
THAT WAS THE DECISION THAT THEY 
TOOK BECAUSE THEY KNEW HOW 
IMPORTANT IT WAS TO GET THIS 
PROGRAMME OUT AND THEY ASSUMED 
CERTAIN RISKS IN GOING FORWARD 
AND STARTING TO SPEND ON A 
PROGRAMME THAT HADABLE YET BEEN 
APPROVED BY CABINET AND 
WOULDN'T BE FOR ANOTHER FEW 
WEEK BECAUSE I PUT THE BRAKES 
ON IT A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER.
BUT IT WAS A DECISION THEY TOOK.
GIVEN THE PANDEMIC SITUATION, 
ALL TIMELINES HAVE BEEN 
COMPRESSED.
PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO STEP UP.
THEY FELT IT WAS A GOOD ENOUGH 
PROGRAMME THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE 
THE RISK OF STARTING WORK EVEN 
WITHOUT THE FORMAL APPROVAL.
THAT WAS A DECISION THEY TOOK 
BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED DEEPLY IN 
HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE AND 
CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR 
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE.
[Speaking French]
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: THE 
CONVERSATION BETWEEN RICK 
THEISS AND WE INDIVIDUALS WAS A 
VERY BRIEF ONE.
THEY TALKED ABOUT THE 
IMPORTANCE OF WORKING WITH ESGC 
TO DEVELOP THE PROGRAMME.
HOWEVER, A FEW DAYS AGO, WE 
HEARD FROM THE KIELBURGERS 
DIRECTLY THAT THEY MADE THE 
DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO 
START WORKING ON THE PROGRAMME, 
EVEN BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED BY 
CABINET.
BECAUSE THEY WAMDED TO GET 
YOUNG CANADIANS OUT THERE, 
HELPING THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO THEY TOOK ON THAT RISK.
IT WAS A DECISION THAT THEY 
MADE, BUT IT ALSO WAS A 
PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE 
DECISION GIVEN THE PANDEMIC AND 
THEIR COMMITMENT TO YOUNG 
PEOPLE IN CANADA.
ROYER
>> Reporter: THROUGH THE DUE 
DILIGENCE PERFORMED BY THE 
PUBLIC SERVICE BETWEEN MAY 8 
AND MAY 22, YOU ASKED FOR MORE 
INFO SO YOU COULD BE CONFIDENT 
WE WAS THE ONLY OPTION TO PUT 
THE PROGRAMME FORWARD.
KNOWING YOUR FAMILY'S 
CONNECTIONS AND CONFLICTS, WHAT 
SPECIFIC INFORMATION OR DUE 
DILIGENCE WAS PROVIDED THAT 
MADE YOU CONFIDENT BY MAY 22 
THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED TO RECUSE 
YOURSELF.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: MY 
ASK OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE AND 
OF THE MINISTER WAS TO 
ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT WHAT 
THEY WERE SUGGESTING WAS THE 
HARD AND COLD TRUTH -- THAT 
THERE WAS NO OTHER ORGANIZATION 
THAT COULD DELIVER THIS 
PROGRAMME, THAT THE DELIVERY OF 
THIS PROGRAMME WAS GOING TO BE 
SUCCESSFUL, THAT THIS WAS THE 
RIGHT ORGANIZATION FOR IT.
I ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND 
RECHECK THEIR WORK TO MAKE SURE 
THAT THEY COULD STAND 
CONFIDENTLY AND SAY THIS IS OUR 
RECOMMENDATION.
IT IS THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT I 
MADE.
WHEN THEY CAME BACK TO ME IN 
THAT INTERVENING TIME AND GAVE 
ME THE SOLID ASSURANCE THAT IT 
WAS THE ABSOLUTE CERTAINLY FOR 
THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT THIS 
WAS THE ONLY WAY TO DELIVER THE 
PROGRAMME, IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY 
TO DELIVER THE PROGRAMME, I WAS 
WILLING TO LET IT GOT TO 
CABINET ON MAY 22.
>> Reporter: BUT YOUR CONCERNS 
ABOUT THE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS 
THAT YOUR FAMILY HAD AND 
POTENTIAL CONFLICTS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
CONCERNS ABOUT THE PERSONAL 
CONNECTIONS THAT MY FAMILY HAD 
WERE ALL AROUND PERCEPTION.
AROUND THE FACT THAT IT WAS 
KNOWN THAT THE WE ORGANIZATION 
WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD DONE 
WORK WITH, THAT MY FAMILY HAD 
DONE WORK WITH AND, THIS FORE, 
WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 
PUBLIC SERVICE AND OTHERS COULD 
STAND UP AND SAY, NO, THE 
DECISION TO GO WE WAS BECAUSE 
THEY ARE THE RIGHT O TO DELIVER 
THIS AND, INDEED, THE ONLY 
ORGANIZATION TO DELIVER IT.
AND THAT IS WHERE I PUSHED BACK 
BECAUSE I KNEW THERE WOULD BE 
PERCEPTION ISSUES AROUND THIS.
AT THE SAME TIME, DELIVERING A 
GRANT PROGRAMME TO STUDENTS WHO 
VOLUNTEER ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO 
WITH ANY WORK MY BROTHER OR 
MOTHER DID WE.
AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS NO 
CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THE PERCEPTION ISSUE MEANT THAT 
I WANTED TO PUSH BACK AND 
REALLY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE 
COULD SAY, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF 
A DOUBT, THAT THIS WAS THE 
PROGRAMME RECOMMENDED, THE WAY 
TO DELIVER THE PROGRAMME 
RECOMMENDED BY OUR OUTSTANDING 
AND PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC 
SERVANTS.
>> [INAUDIBLE].
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: OK.
[Speaking French].
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: I 
KNEW THERE COULD BE SOME 
QUESTIONS RAISED BECAUSE OF THE 
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MYSELF AND 
THE WE CHARITY.
AND THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE 
PUBLIC SERVICE TO RECHECK AND 
TO CONFIRM THAT THEY HAD DONE 
ALL THE BACKGROUND WORK THAT 
NEEDED TO BE DONE AND THAT THIS 
ORGANIZATION WAS THE ONLY ONE 
THAT COULD DELIVER THIS 
PROGRAMME.
AND THAT THEY WERE PERFECTLY 
CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE I KNEW THERE WOULD BE 
QUESTIONS BECAUSE OF THE 
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MY FAMILY 
AND WE.
IT IS A WAY OF COUNTERING THOSE 
CONCERN, POLITICAL IN NATURE 
AND PEOPLE'S POSSIBLE 
PERCEPTIONS.
BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY OF 
DELIVERYING THE STUDENT GRANT 
TO YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN 
WORKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
>> WE WENT FROM BEING A 
CHARITY, THE ONLY CHARITY AS 
YOU SAID TO BE ABLE TO HAND 
THIS WILL GIANT STUDENT 
PORTFOLIO TO TAKING A HUGE 
REPUTATIONAL NOSE DIVE AND 
LOSING CORPORATE SPONSORS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND 
THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE 
ACTIVELY VOLUNTEERING IN THEIR 
COMMUNITIES BUT WON'T BE ABLE 
TO GET THAT GRANT THAT IS A 
RECOGNITION AND ENCOURAGMENT TO 
STEP UP AS VOLUNTEERS.
THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE 
FOLLOWED FOR THE WE 
ORGANIZATION AND INDEED THE 
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED 
OF THIS GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN 
DISAPPOINTING.
AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO 
DELIVER THIS GRANT ALTHOUGH 
WE'RE WORK ON A WAY TO SUPPORT 
YOUNG PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING.
AND THE WE ORGANIZATION THAT 
HAS DONE EXCELLENT WORK OVER 
THE PAST YEARS AND  EMPOWERING 
YOUNG PEOPLE AND GETTING YOUNG 
PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, 
RUNNING CLUBS.
IT IS ABOUT EMPOWERING YOUNG 
PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM TO 
VOLUNTEER.
OBVIOUSLY THE SITUATION THAT 
HAS RESULTED FROM THIS IS 
DEEPLY REGRETTABLE AND I'M 
DEEPLY SORRY I DIDN'T RECUSE 
MYSELF FROM THE BEGINNING.
IT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE AVOIDED 
MUCH OF THIS CHALLENGE.
INSTEAD, I CHOSE TO PUSH BACK 
AND DO -- ASK FOR EXTRA DUE 
DILIGENCE.
BUT THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT 
CHOICE, OBVIOUSLY.
>> Reporter: PRIME MINISTER, 
YOU ANNOUNCED $59 MILLION FOR 
PROTECTION OF FARM WORKERS.
I THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT 
LOST THEIR LIVES ON CANADIAN 
SOIL.
I KNOW THAT CANADA DOESN'T HAVE 
A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO 
THOSE FAMILIES.
IS THERE ANY HELP FOR THEM?
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DIED 
BRINGING US FOOD AND I KNOW 
THAT SOME OF THEM HAD TO 
REPATRIATE THEIR BODIES AND PAY 
FOR IT THEMSELVES.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
LOOK AT THE TRAGEDIES THAT HAVE 
HIT THE TEMPORARY FOREIGN 
WORKERS' COMMUNITY WITH DEEP 
SORROW.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON 
CANADIANS.
WE REQUIRE SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE 
AROUND THE WORLD TO GROW OUR 
FOOD, TO HARVEST OUR FOOD, TO 
GET FOOD ON CANADIAN'S PLATES 
AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE LEVELS 
WHICH IN SOME CASES HAVE BEEN 
LIVING UP TO THE STANDARD AND 
EXPECTATIONS THAT WE EXPECT AND 
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS AND 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS THAT 
HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY INVOLVED 
IN ENSURING THAT STANDARDS ARE 
MET AND PEOPLE ARE PROTECTED.
THERE ARE LOTS OF CHANGES WE 
NEED TO MAKE.
AND THEY SUPPORT US WITH GOOD 
FOOD ON OUR TABLES.
[Speaking French] 
>> [Voice of Interpreter]: I 
THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO REFLECT 
ON HOW MUCH WE OWE ALL OF THESE 
FOREIGN WORKERS THAT COME INTO 
THE COUNTRY TO HELP US TO PUT 
FOOD ON OUR TABLES.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT HAS SHOWN 
SOME FAILURES.
WHETHER IT'S THE FEDERAL OR 
PROVINCIAL MANAGEMENT OF THE 
PROGRAMME, THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE 
COMING TO FEED CANADIANS 
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE 
PROTECTED.
WE WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THE 
AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY TO ENSURE 
THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE 
PROTECTION AND SUPPORT FOR 
THESE WORKERS WHO WERE SO 
IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> Suhana: YOU WATCH IT LIVE 
HERE ON CBC NEWS NETWORK.
PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU 
IN OTTAWA ANNOUNCING A NEW 
TRACING APP THAT CANADIANS CAN 
DOWNLOAD TO THEIR SMART PHONES 
AND SO THAT IS NEWS.
ALSO SOME MONEY AS YOU JUST 
HEARD IN THAT LAST QUESTION FOR 
MIGRANT WORKERS.
I WANT TO TACKLE THAT AND MORE 
WITH CBC'S JANYCE McGREGOR 
BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN FOLLOWING 
ALL OF THIS FROM OUR NATION'S 
CAPITAL.
CERTAINLY THERE IS MUCH TO TALK 
ABOUT INCLUDING QUESTIONS OVER 
THE PRIME MINISTER'S TESTIMONY 
YESTERDAY.
LET'S BEGIN WITH THE NEWS, 
JANYCE.
WHAT ARE THE DETAILS.
>> Reporter: SO, THE PRIME 
MINISTER IN HIS STATEMENT TODAY 
HAD UPDATES ON SEVERAL FRONTS 
IN TERMS OF HIS GOVERNMENT'S 
PANDEMIC RESPONSE.
FIRST, I'M GOING TO START WITH 
THE THING HE MENTIONED AT THE 
END OF HIS STATEMENT.
THE FUTURE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
BEEN RELYING ON THE CERB, THE 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT.
OF COURSE, AS SUMMER COMES TO A 
CLOSE, THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT 
DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT 
WOULD HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE WHO 
STILL WERE WITHOUT AN INCOME, 
HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO RETURN TO 
THEIR JOBS TAN PRIME MINISTER 
TODAY SAYING THAT THEY WILL NOT 
LEAVE ANYBODY BEHIND.
THAT THE INTENTION OF HIS 
GOVERNMENT IS TO TRANSFER 
ANYONE WHO HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO 
GO BACK TO WORK ON TO WHAT HE 
CALLED A 21ST CENTURY 
EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEM.
HE SAID IT WOULD NOT JUST BE 
FOR PEOPLE WHO QUALIFIED FOR 
E.I. PREVIOUSLY.
IT WOULD SEEK TO COVER 
EVERYBODY THROUGH SOME KIND OF 
PARALLEL COVERAGE, THAT IT 
WOULD INCLUDE ALSO PEOPLE WHO 
NEEDED SICKNESS BENEFITS TO 
ALLOW THEM TO STAY HOME OR TO 
CARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE DURING 
COVID-19.
THAT, I THINK, IS SOMETHING 
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE 
DETAILS ON, CLOSER TO THE END 
OF THE MONTH.
BUT THE PRIME MINISTER WANTING 
TO GET SOME SIGNALS THROUGHOUT 
TO RE-ASSURE PEOPLE THAT THE 
TAPS WON'T BE TURNED OFF 
COMPLETELY AT THE END OF THE 
SUMMER.
THE OTHER BIG THING HE WAS 
ANNOUNCING TON MONEY  FRONT IS 
A NEW $59 MILLION INVESTMENT 
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO 
HELP WITH THE SITUATION WITH 
TEMPORARY FOREIGN WORKERS ON 
CANADIAN FARMS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 
SOME SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THEIR 
LIVING CONDITIONS, WITH THEIR 
HEALTH DURING THIS PANDEMIC.
I BELIEVE THREE IN SOUTHWESTERN 
ONTARIO HAVE DIED AND PEOPLE 
HAVE BEEN RAISING CONCERNS 
ABOUT WHETHER THESE WORKERS WHO 
COME TO CANADA TO HELP WITH 
HARVEST ARE TREATED FAIRLY ONCE 
THEY ARRIVE GIVEN WHAT THEY DO 
FOR OUR FOOD SUPPLY HERE.
THIS NEW MONEY IS GOING TO FUND 
INSPECTIONS, HELP OUT WITH 
EMERGENCY RELIEF AND 
INTERESTING, THEY SAID IT WOULD 
IMPROVE LIVING CONDITIONS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE 
ENVISIONING DOING THAT.
BUT HE DID MENTION THAT THE 
MINISTERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS 
PROGRAMME, THE EMPLOYMENT 
MINISTER, THE AGRICULTURE 
MINISTER AND THE IMMIGRATION 
MINISTER WERE WORKING ON 
CHANGING HOW THIS PROGRAMME IS 
GOING TO WORK, GOING FORWARD.
HAVING MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS 
FOR BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS 
FOR WORKERS AND YOU HEARD HIM 
SAY THERE THAT THE SYSTEM HAS 
SHOWN SOME MAJOR FAILURES AND 
THAT I WAS CLEAR THERE IS A 
NEED TO IMPROVE THIS PROGRAMME.
THEY ARE ALSO ANNOUNCING TODAY 
THAT THEY ARE FINISHED WITH THE 
BETA TESTING PHASE FOR THE 
COVID-19 NOTIFICATION APP, THAT 
IF YOU ARE IN ONTARIO, THE 
MINISTRY THERE IS NOW EQUIPPED 
TO BE ABLE TO INPUT DATA INTO 
THIS SYSTEM.
SO THAT IF YOU DO TEST 
POSITIVE, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A 
CODE AND THEN PEOPLE WHOSE 
PHONES HAVE BEEN IN PROXIMITY 
TO YOURS CAN FIND OUT NOT YOUR 
NAME OR WHERE YOU'RE FROM OR 
WHERE THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH 
YOU, BUT JUST THE FACT THAT 
THEY HAVE BEEN IN PROXIMITY 
WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS GONE ON TO 
TEST POSITIVE.
SO THEY KNOW TO KEEP AN EYE OUT 
FOR ANY SYMPTOMS OF THEIR OWN.
THAT IS SOMETHING THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS STILL WORKING ON, 
TRYING TO ROLL OUT ELSEWHERE, 
POSSIBLY IN ATLANTIC CANADA 
NEXT.
WE UNDERSTAND.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT IS UP 
AND RUNNING IN ONTARIO WHICH 
HAS BEEN A PARTNER ON THIS 
PROJECT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
SO, THAT WAS KIND OF THE MAIN 
THRUST OF, I GUESS, THE MESSAGE 
SHE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE.
BUT, OF COURSE, SUHANA, AS YOU 
HEARD, THE QUESTION WERE ALL 
ABOUT THE WE CONTROVERSY.
>> Suhana: ABSOLUTELY.
AND HE STUCK TO THE LINE, YOU 
KNOW, THAT HIS COMMENTS DURING 
THAT TESTIMONY THAT HE PUSHED 
FOR FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE 
BEFORE WE CHARITY THAT WAS 
AWARDED THAT WORK.
WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF HIS 
ANSWER, JANYCE?
>> Reporter: I THOUGHT THEY 
WERE REMARKABLY SIMILAR TO HIS 
TESTIMONY.
ANY EFFORTS TO GET HIM OFF WHAT 
HIS MESSAGE WAS YESTERDAY, I'M 
NOT SURE WERE TERRIBLY 
SUCCESSFUL.
I WAS INTERESTED IN HIS ANSWER 
ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS 
PROGRAMME.
HE SEEMS TO BE CONFIRMING THAT 
THERE WON'T BE PAYMENTS FOR 
STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN OUT 
THERE VOLUNTEERING THIS SUMMER 
WHICH COULD BE A DISAPPOINTING 
APPOINTMENT TO PEOPLE WHO BEGAN 
VOLUNTEERING IN GOOD FAITH, 
BELIEVING THAT IT WOULD RESULT 
IN SOME HELP TO COVER THEIR 
COSTS THIS FALL WHEN THEY GO 
BACK TO SCHOOL.
I ALSO WAS INTERESTED TO HEAR 
HIM TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH HE 
DEEPLY REGRETS THIS SITUATION.
OF COURSE, HE HAS BEEN 
APOLOGIZING FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW, SAYING HE DEEPLY 
REGRETS WHAT UNFOLDED HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, EMPHASIZING 
AGAIN HE KNOWS HE SHOULD HAVE 
RECUSED AND THAT COULD HAVE 
AVOIDED THE SITUATION.
BUT ALSO SAYING THAT HE WAS -- 
HE FOUND IT DISAPPOINTING THAT 
SO MANY QUESTIONS WERE RAISED 
ABOUT WHAT HE REALLY THOUGHT 
WAS A GOOD PROGRAMME.
THE WHOLE REASON HE PUSHED BACK 
WAS BECAUSE HE FELT THERE COULD 
BE A PERCEPTION OF CONFLICT OF 
INTEREST AND MORE DUE DILIGENCE 
NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THIS AND 
YET HE IS SAYING IT IS 
DISAPPOINTING THAT SO MANY 
QUESTIONS WERE ASKED WHEN IT 
ACTUALLY WENT FORWARD.
I FOUND THAT TO BE INTERESTING.
FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY KNEW 
WAS GOING TO BE CLOSELY 
SCRUTINIZED.
THAT WAS THEIR TESTIMONY 
YESTERDAY.
>> Suhana: THANK YOU FOR THAT, 
JANYCE.
CBC'S JANYCE McGREGOR IN OTTAWA.
ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE 
ON SOME OF THE NEWS COMING FROM 
OTTAWA REGARDING TRAVEL ACROSS 
THE BORDER WITH THE UNITED 
STATES.
AS YOU KNOW, ANYTHING BUT 
ESSENTIAL TRAVEL OR ONLY 
ESSENTIAL TRAVEL CAN HAPPEN AND 
THAT DEADLINE, WHICH WAS TO 
HAVE ENDED IN THE END OF JULY 
HAS NOW BEEN EXTENDED TO THE 
END OF AUGUST.
SO NO TRAVEL ACROSS THE BORDER 
TO THE UNITED STATES JUST YET 
UNLESS IT IS ESSENTIAL.
THAT DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED 
BY ONE MONTH.
THERE ARE SOME NEW FREEDOMS, 
HOWEVER, FOR MORE THAN FOUR 
MILLION
