spring wife's
joining us now in the majority report is
that
Billy Joe Kane and his daughter Tuesday
Kane
and they're they're father-daughter duo
who went out and protested against I
that texas-size legislatures war on
women for i mean they were
trying to pass this hb2 bill I this
anti-women anti-choice bill over in
Texas I
people hit the streets people protested
make their voices heard
and that Billy Joe and his daughter
would
to the people who did so but however
tuesday was holding a sign and this sign
caused a bit of a ruckus in the
right-wing blogosphere
and that they're not backing down though
you know the right wing's been attacking
them not billy jo Ann Tuesday thank you
so much for joining us today
thank you for having us I
let's just start without what what
happened basically said you guys went
down there
tell tell me tell us your story out you
went down there with the sign where the
sign say and
just give us that story that started
that sure
okay give me a high-level I I'm not sure
how from where everybody is with the
situation so
it so it's that get to do that what
happened was
this that well shows your have put
together a a
a bill called a speech to which was
allegedly for
a for a women's health and that there
was an enormous
a backlash thankfully and taxes because
somebody found out about it
and spread the word so I'm Wendy Davis
senator Wendy Davis had gone and try to
put a filibuster and at the end of the
at the end of this this season and
manage to get really close to before
they kick her out and
long story short they it didn't pass
during the
normals let's play season and then they
call the second session
I where the main may idea for the whole
session was the pass this bill into law
they there and ride it through long
story short
and during that time well over 10,000
people came out to protest
Wow I and to make their voices heard one
way or the other
during this time we went to the capitol
how we have four days in a row four days
solid maybe 12 hours a day
on the very last day and that they will
try to get the bill passed in there and
they're all the amendments
II rapid-fire and rapid style a
fashion Tuesday had decided to write
sign
and it was kinda bill on be a the amount
a
a gasoline hastily we're excited for the
for the the people there were against
the bill like
us I lot of people was trying to shame
on us than
K tell us that you know Jesus didn't
approve of what we were doing murdering
children etcetera etcetera
so we got a lot of pushback from what I
would consider to be the right wing and
pro
Jesus and high choice pro-life
for group and to think you talk about
why was that she wrote this on and what
it's actually said okay great I Tuesday
okay
a I guess speak loudly
no I'm I made a sidewalk wow that
capital
I I guess analyze my sin and keep our
and I his is meant to text that mean
now well I you for there's
like Nash not matter anything he is cool
our and also literally cheeses it
you know I guess smell can sell yes I
we keep right all agree on that
yeah factual statement yeah I
think after I he had been heartening
I 35 at my vagina please keep I
you have church separated from yeah no
a from the government and I
literally please keep Jesus out as any
Regina I
I mean I think it's I think it's a
brilliant side job he adds billions
she's very clever
Jesus is in a dick so keep him out of my
vagina I mean it
it's certainly will turn heads and get
attention and I mean that's why you're
down there
yeah yeah let's write a mania
the signs that were being signs and
placards everything they're being
help other people mean they included
aborted fetuses there were well over 24
weeks in jest Asian
I seventy like Photoshop images
where I baby when house I everything
like I its had an aborted fetus
they would be media huddle or something
around there but you can
eat it will ask you to pray with I
didn't think because the image was blown
out
so much I'm partisan I don't know I
wasn't just uses there was
it was that way and the people working
around they had children carrying them
around they had
you know babies with bed you know duct
tape on their faces already it was
it was very very extreme and I don't
think
I what's I don't think people realize
just how much
like guilt and shame bet that side was
handing out
that Khan chief now I favorite but you
know explicitly and
answer cost I mean sucks I mean so that
they're literally literally feel that
you know
your sign is more vulgar because the
word baby Jesus
and dick and vagina are on the same
sentence get here they are with signs
like that where children that which is
that what they're worried about their
argument children will see the signs
they're all there
i mean they have no problem with those
signs being seen
well as it was what's even crazier is
that you know we're talking about a sign
that you know you have to be
you have to be able to read for instance
to to get what it is that we're talking
about where at
the the images that they were showing
you don't have to know how to read to
see a dead
I did that's very issue-oriented baby
for that matter
yet some so stay with I pretty brutal
60 so let's get some what let's get to
the right wing blob
blowback you're receiving I mean this is
so what happened basically
I want to tell us that the picture was a
pic someone took a picture and went
viral on their
the right-wing blogosphere want to give
us that that story
yeah searchers their friend that was
with her and her friend
I was very much time sometimes in
tuesday was carrying it sometimes and
I'll
what are the pictures that was taken
apparently hit one as well
one of the right-wing you know a blog
and it was going through Twitter and
since I had my computer there
and I was watching all this stuff go on
because you know I trying to figure out
whether
you know they had decided to go for you
know where they're getting company the
amendments that some other were actually
useful
I and that I pass that on on the list
and like
are now we are not going to be having
this stuff is
its it just got ugly really quick I have
started they started calling
you know her ahora flood
basically you know and intimating and
saying explicitly that because their
sign says
dick in Regina on it that a course you
know that cheese soliciting sex and I'm
hotel
not like we're not gonna have that so I
went on the I went online and
that hey I'm I'm the father the girl who
wrote that sign in if you want to talk
to me
here's my email address because I really
I think the only way to get rid of a
troll
is to go out there and you know let
through the line and prevail
you no answer you what's interesting to
me though the I don't even consider what
wat what the attacks on Tuesday to be
trolling
because I've you trolling as you know
someone who creates an anonymous account
and they just used at the edges are out
there to stir up trouble the now
I get get under people's skin I mean
these are people who
many them using their real name spouting
their actual feelings and opinions
on on it this this girl they know
nothing about
you know you're right i guess i I guess
what I was really trying to refer to
on is troll-like behavior I but you're
right
there they definitely were not they were
not rolling in the classic sense they
were definitely
stating exactly who they were and what
they're really really thought and that's
what I think that's the scariest
when people tell you exactly what
they're thinking you better listen
they are those guys that they have some
really interesting things you need
wasn't there
i jus I wanted to just jump in here for
a moment I first wanna say Tuesday
what struck me about reading about this
and I
is its you're incredibly gutsy
I and its amazing what you doing
and regardless of whether anybody's
offended by a sign or not is totally
secondary to
the messenger making and the leadership
you're showing by being out there
and I think what I would like maybe both
the view to talk about because I
I think it's very connected because
you're talking about
i'd an agenda which is attacking and
controlling woman in saying that a woman
should be
in positions where day don't they can't
decide their own lives they can't set
their own fate
and we should be so far past the point
even arguing this to begin with and then
Tuesday you come forward as a
as a young person the teenager was
intelligent particular
cares and you're a young woman and it's
almost like
your I exactly what they're afraid of
and I'm wondering you know how do you
feel
in terms of you know you're doing the
right thing you've all this courage but
its it's really ugly on saudi
are you getting the kind support you
need and have there been any people
who've
thrown some others real garbage and
maybe had a second thought about what
they're doing
if any that make sense and obviously
both you can answer plant
curious how you're experiencing all this
Tuesday in and ice want the
thank you again no problem thank you
%uh actually yes star
there are a lot of people has southeast
at me a
and I responded am and
they have immediately you now actually
there people that have apologised I
Facebook
there were I'm a few people I think it
was like 100 and eighty-something people
that
I responded she'll I saw more cheap car
I finish that feels kinda mad about that
but they all responded with
I really positive thing and I'm I tried
response time
and there are a few people that were
spotted with are really nasty hateful
thing
and now you now i cant alright
I either ignore them if they just any
like
I'm you know I asking for Sinclair as a
I'll write you know able
you haha as: and others I'm it
are spotted years that were actually
really you know but I responded and were
saying you know well at least now I
understand that you're actually very
much care and
you know but after that were carry
understanding they just
you really like I your your some s
site is a go ahead
stop I was just gonna say Tuesday you're
someone that anybody
if they had any sincerity in supporting
young people and caring about the future
and leadership in all these other
things that people throw around and say
all the time they should be 100 percent
supportive you
regardless if your sign and even whether
they agree with you on the position
just because what you're out doing is
amazing and another
one other thing are just as I know %ah I
have a lot of friends who were
who are are like God professional
feminist writers and stuff like this
they say
they're always willing to talk to people
what they want feat roles so it sounds
like you doing exactly the right thing
well thank you know but I don't sure
I yeah
al gore I tell me if you happen to be
there's not everyone
you know not everyone on the planet it
brings you agree with what you mean I
don't really feel like
anyone she's being I'm you right or you
know
like this shit or anything are I don't
everyone has their own opinions and I
personally feel like I'm day
as saying I don't expect everyone to
think that I am
to find x1 ass cum I mean to me some the
most in
incredible responses art are just the
ones that a spouse that
being that you're fourteen you shouldn't
be talking about these issues as if
somehow when you turn whatever age they
think it's appropriate for you to be
engaging in sexual activity
somehow when you hit that magical age
these laws
that attack women arts match the gonna
disappear for you
at that time so I mean that to me is
ridiculous
but on but so how do we get I mean
there's I'm sure they're
are many I'm in your friends I'm sure I
mean you had a friend out there that she
was in the picture that went viral
how can we get more more Tuesday canes
had we get more young activists involved
in in these issues
I I think education really I think just
teaching children teaching and you know
teenagers
stay hey this is what's going on you
like a better say something against it
or you know you better do something
about it
yes I'm you know actually in the future
people are gonna
you know they may affect me that may not
affect me
but out there gonna be attacking you
know at least some of my friends
or I here II you know my teachers
you ever it is I by I think really just
educating these children
in out what's going on out with really
be
fasting and I don't just educating
I guess Billy Joe sure should there's
some good parenting by mister
I'm so I can say that again issue I'm
sure there's some parenting work behind
this 2 I'm sure you helped
at a young age you know let these issues
being
I mean the people who are attacking you
I'm sure they don't speak with such
issues
with their children and they'd rather
their children think that the world is
some
magical place where did their flying on
marshmallows and candy
you yeah I I'm I'd like to say that I
think part of the problem is that if you
have so many people that are in the dark
literally about about back some issues
that surround
sex I mean this is now even here in an
issue
will each other I group ninety and I
just and I just have it but they
they don't even realize it is a problem
all day or hearing
seems to be that there are certain
people that are out murdering children
and murdering baby and that's bad
and if those kids the children are not
being educated see
know where babies come from you know
they don't even like using the word
penis in vagina
if they if they're uncomfortable with
bad and they want it saying babies come
from storks and
a come in a things happen in your who
are its
it's not gonna get down to the point
where these children are even gonna have
the opportunity to become activists
does not gonna be educated on any of the
issues gonna be indoctrinated from the
beginning
know that I'm article we that on
you should have anything to do with
sexist outside of marriage in you
shouldn't even be talking about sex
so you talk to your preacher scrape
source CMS
that not the way the world works so what
what's what's next and I going on in
Texas what what's the next I mean I know
that day
they put forward got this this six-week
abortion bill i think is a fetal feudal
memorably torp
feel hard PSA a they put up your
heartbeat bill
and and I the the thought at this point
that I've read
is that the that bill is passed into law
will not become
immediately a law it will become law
yes roe versus wade gets over to her
the really is what they're doing is
they're setting things up
so that once the big Domino fall its
gonna crash
everywhere I'm and this is happening all
over the United States
not just a Texas thing I've heard
differing accounts
the quantity of these bills but I've
heard
numbers anywhere between 300 and 600 to
these bills are being introduced
all across the United States I'm I'm
trying to find out if there is a central
repository for these bill so people can
know that and I'm
starting to feel like I'm a has to be
the person to put that together
I but Rd I don't doubt drape
I don't know what the hell some money
has got to be curated all the time
on so I'm sure that if I do this all
need help in solving elite site funding
so
everybody out there should be who is in
that world should take note
somebody's gotta do it some I had to do
this because this
this this is a cancer that is going to
affect
every woman in the United States one way
or another
and if you don't have the money to go to
another state or the means are you can't
leave the country to get this done
because
there are going to be people that need
it on
we're going to be stuck with a lot of
problems and its and it's gonna happen
everywhere
I think what's happening is big somebody
finally off a whole
and if it works people think it works
against introduced in all these
different states at the same time and
then they just
they tack on more this six-week a purp
bank a 20-week a mysterious
ban some I not supported by scientific
and you know peer-reviewed literature
that says that
fetuses feel pain at 20 weeks I'm
these bills are at a level on ever
freeware and they're tagged on C
budgets motorcycle safety bill
and these are facts look a hot but is
crazy what's going on in these people
have to be stopped
I mean you just I mean you said a few
you said before I mean this isn't really
it's not even just a woman's rights
issue I mean this is it
this is an issue that affects everybody
I mean you brought up how
I this dodge the attack on women it's an
attack on the poor I mean though they're
really going to be the ones who hurt by
this I mean people can afford to find a
way to get an abortion will continue to
to be fine with with with with these
laws passed I mean these are really at
this is an attack on
on the on the porch the poor really and
in essence effects everybody
are so I just wanna to wrap it up here
by arm
I really thank you you too for for
coming out and and speaking about this
not not even just i mean one
going out there and protesting carrying
your sign
i hearing from the people who are down
there protesting
letting your voice be heard but then
also I mean I just letting these things
being
be thrown around online these terrible
things being said online just happen
and ignoring them I which would have
definitely been the easier things to do
but instead you're you're pointing it
out
as look this is this is going on and
this is something that we have to deal
with here
I mean its it's wrong to call up
any woman the words that they're calling
Tuesday
but at the same time they're using
Tuesday's age as a way that she
shouldn't be heard
yet they have no problem saying these
things to her and I just amazing to see
you too both stand up in as book and
Frank and bring their own kids out with
incredibly disturbing signs
eyes use down as schools over motional
manipulation and political point-scoring
so it's wanna say go read there's a
piece Billy
Billy joke I wrote a piece in The
Guardian I Tuesday wrote a piece in
XO Jane we have both links up at
majority .fm you can read them both I
can click through there and find them
both
I'm its if you're on Twitter at Billy
Joe Kane
I treated him give him in Tuesday your
support
I thank you to so much for joining us
continue what you're doing
I I would love to hear from you guys
again I keep in touch
and I keep fighting thanks guys right
thank you
thanks I there's a piece coming I so
long as greta is has an article coming
out a wall and this couple more
we did a a a radio show on BBC on Friday
awesome up there I'm and one last thing
I want to say is
what we've been told is we are in many
ways
I I don't like the worst being that the
conservative side
would ever want to deal with is a man
who is anti-abortion
and a little girl and the fact that
we're together apparently is this
extremely bad situation said because I'm
well the heavily Shane and they can't
really change her so their
there kind of at a loss it I mean no
it's really what sets you guys out i
mean
working they say Tuesday what what what
is your dad think about what you doing
all the things that's great he's right
here next to me
yet right I'm trying to and I'm trying
to keep a civil discourse on line
because
the only way we're going to get to this
get this solve this problem altogether
is a both sides take laws of
and why call we have a discussion about
this because it is never gonna be
our quarterback purses your quarterback
let's I did on the gridiron
never going to work here I are you
people or
actually trying to do you know be
helpful
try to show people are a few handbell
obviously can't KJ with the kidney by
making a sign that I spend a whole bunch
of people
now but there's gotta be conversation
yeah and it has to be civil
this what's going on right now is not
gonna work
