It's the 50 year anniversary of his death
Exactly
He died in October, 1967, in Bolivia
Who ordered his death? Fidel Castro?
I think Fidel Castro abandoned him, leaves him to his fate
He excited Guevara enough for him to embark on that adventure
So he left Cuba
and he controlled Cuba as he wanted to
to route him
Che Guevara was a nuisance to Fidel Castro
In the last stage he bothered him a lot
Why? Because a major breakdown occurs between this marriage
Between Castro and Guevara
After a world episode, the famous misile crisis
When the Soviet Union puts missiles in Havana aiming at the US
Those missiles were finally retired
And Che Guevara, who was exalted and wild
he saw that as a defection, as a betrayal by Russia and by Fidel himself
he wanted to go to WWIII
he made this explicit
from there he got disillusioned
and started flirting with the other big communist block
which was the Chinese block
who was vying for leadership with the Soviet union
they had their own internal war
the Soviets themselves saw guevara as a kind of Chinese agent
in an isle that was financed by them
and he was an annoying character, unmarked from the muscovite structure
and Fidel Castro finally...
Fidel decides to play thoroughly with the Russians
Absolutely
And Che Guevara wanted to play thoroughly with the Chinese
Exactly
Che Guevara was first dazzled by the Russians
Until he discovers Russia
and as Che's idol was Stalin
and he signed his personal letters with the pseudonym "Stalin II"
that was the admiration he had
But what happens when...
Che Guevara believed himself to be Stalin II
he signed with that pseudonym as a kind of tribute to whom he admired
Stalin killed more people than Hitler
that genocide is never talked about
very little
because it is a leftist thing
leftist genocides have that thing
If the leftist kills, that's okay
they're excusable
Well, the Communism black book attributes Stalin up to 25 million deaths
figure that would be the second most important of the 20th century
because the first would be attributable to Mao Tse Tung
With was another friend of Che Guevara
With whom he begins to befriend
When the Cuban revolution occurs
And when Che Guevara was protagonist
Russia was being ruled by Nikita Kruschev
who was a moderate, within the context
and that in the Cold War he wanted to go to a peaceful coexistence
That's why Communist Parties of the time in Latin America
did not support the guerrillas of the time
They had a more bureaucratic, more administrative structure
and that made Che Guevara mad
he was a taliban
he saw the concept of the killing machine
as an ideal to achieve
he was a murderous guerrilla
he himself executed, he himself killed
Absolutely
the curious thing is that the vast majority of his executions
or his murders, or however you want to call it, they are not in combat
because in combat, well, those are the rules of the game
No, they were cold-blooded murders
Por example, he had a particularity
which makes him a particularly interesting character
he wrote down everything he did in his personal journal
Really?
"Today I murdered 4 people...
For example, in the Sierra Maestra journal
he confesses and tells in technical detail
because he writes like an expert, because he was a doctor
"I had to end this problem by shooting
the bullet penetrated the shoulder blade
pierced such tissue"... anyway
14 murders
And I don't say this, Guevara says this in his personal diary
13 other homicides are attributed to that
In a town in Santa Clara
but these are minor episodes
the most complicated in Guevara, the most unpresentable in his biography
is when the revolution occurs
and he begins to command a concentration camp
for the extermination of dissidents
Which was the concentration camp in the Cabin, a military fortress in Havana
There, he is attributed, with his own handwritting, shootings
he murders 165 disidents in total
Cold-blooded
people placed on a pole for their execution
without risk
It was a revolution
He was a killing machine
beyond what he says that their soldiers had to be killing machines
He himself was a killing machine
It was his desire and I think he achieved it
It is impressive that this assassin
is in the t-shirts of thousands of young people around the world
like he was a great guy
Che Guevara is a very transvestite character
that is, he is no longer seen with that cruelty
with that harshness
but today he is seen as an ecological, multicultural character
as a gay rallies icon
as a transnational pacifism icon
today he is a character that is used for anything
it is weird that the gays have him as an icon
because both Fidel and Che Guevara
and all that is Cuban legislation
It is very hard on homosexuals
Well, the first concentration camp for homosexual rehabilitation
it was not for extermination, but rehabilitation
it was created by Che Guevara in the Guanahacabibes peninsula
because for Che homosexuals were sick people
The slogan was
"Revolution does not need hairdressers"
and "work will make you men"
They were subjected to 12 to 18 hours of forced labor
from Monday to Saturday, Sundays they had a break
They believed in a superstition typical of totalitarianisms
Which was the new socialist man
The new man had to be an iron machine
someone devoted and virile, like the Aryan the nazis wanted
Like an Aryan, but socialist
it was the superman, but in a Marxist key
he had to have these qualities
within which homosexuality had no place
and it was supposed that the revolution
and the harshness of the revolution
and the forced labor in concentration camps
was going to turn that flaw
this remained in Cuba for a long time
recently in 2010, Fidel Castro apologized
just one more thing
it was not something typical from Cuba
article 121 of the Soviet penal code punished sodomy
with five years of forced labor in gulags
And in China, in 1997, the crime that castrated homosexuals was repealed
It's curious, 25 years later, in all gender rallies
the left-winged parties are at the forefront
It's incredible
I remember, in one of Tata Yofre's books
he shows a picture of Che Guevara with a suit
it must be one of the few pictures we have of him with a suit
when he was a diplomat
you mean one in which he is characterized
in an unrecognizable way
Yes, but actually those were clandestine missions
He didn't go as Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
He had a fake passport
For example, when he went to the Congo, it was with a specific name
When he went to Bolivia he went with another nickname
With a fraudulent passport
and he pretended to be a Uruguayan businessman
because he was already an international criminal
In the middle of the cold war he couldn't be exhibiting
indeed, they were very well done characterizations
they even deformed his jaw and teeth
they made him look older than he was
Che Guevara is a character who died at 39 years of age
very, very young
He was born on 1928, and he died in 1967
very young, I have the picture here, look
Come here a second, look, this is the picture
it's very impressive, he is right with Fidel
there you have it, look
Exactly, suit, tie, hat, some glasses
and he is with Fidel
and Fidel is giving him the passport
That was prior to his last adventure in Bolivia
that was prior to his last adventure in Bolivia
This also indicates that Fidel wanted him out
Well, to write the book I even interviewed bolivian soldiers
who participated in the capture operation
and they confirmed, for example, that all local contacts
that Che had, were removed
Castro himself called them and took them to Cuba
they gave him broken communications
they didn't give him the logictics
he was told the communist party was going to support him
and the Communist Party hadn't compromised to support him
that is to say, Fidel Castro cheated on him
there is even an interesting thing
When Guevara is captured
and he is in southern Bolivia for two days
until he is finally executed by order of the Bolivian government
Was the CIA involved there? Yes, of course
and the CIA wanted Guevara alive
because they wanted to take him, I think, to Panama
and they had all the strong evidence
that he had been abandoned and betrayed by Fidel
So, Guevara knew Cuban power so well
and so many juicy aspects of Soviet power
that if they could persuade him
maybe out of spite, maybe as a deal
he could give them a lot of information
that was the pretension
Curiously, the United States wanted to save Guevara
and he had kind of a tension tug of war with the Bolivian government
Bolivian government became firm and the CIA finally respected
they said "this is a mercenary who came to invade my country
with Cubans to attack a government"
Bolivians didn't want it to happen like in Cuba
but the interesting fact, Eduardo, not often said
Bolivian government had just won with the 66% of the votes
it was not a fascist dictatorship, it was a popular government
whether you like it or not
and this character comes with Cuban mercenaries
to impose a system and he killed 49 bolivian soldiers
49
49 in total
and then we are going to apply the medicine that corresponds
that's what president René Barrientos did
and the next day, the Bolivian national congress
unanimously honored Barrientos for the made decision
we maintain that the left
needs the conflict
the left in peace, harmony, good coexistence
it has no reason to be
and if there's no conflict, the left will make it up
So, in the last 25 years
expressions of conflict that didn't exist before, appeared
it always seeks violence, harmed, and it's better if there are deaths
and it needs conflict, it needs to make it up
for example, now we have feminism
at a time that women can be presidents of any western country
leaders, ministers
33% of the western population
let's say, women are paid 33% more than men
and we are in a patriarchy
the first great indigenous march
was held in 1992 in Latin America, with a drug trafficker at the forefront
who was Evo Morales
Before 1992, indigenism was a non-existent subject
Why do all these expressions of conflict appear?
Because in 1992 the Soviet Union ceases to exist
We have to create new causes: feminism...
in 1992 they took down the wall
Exactly, we have to create new causes:
feminism, indigenism, ecology, LGBT, multiculturalism
we have to look for new forms of conflict
The ramsons are a new conflict form which explodes
because they need, the left needs
if there is no conflict, it has to be invented
and now we have Jones, which is almost as blonde as me
who is the new mapuche leader
Jones Walla, whose website is in the United States
and another topic appears, which would be interesting to study
which is the rewriting of history
just as they have rewritten history in a false way
about what happened in the 70s with the guerrilla
now they are rewriting history
history related to native peoples
That before, well, before the Mapuches there were the Tehuelches
and before the Tehuelches there would be monkeys, who knows
this is part of the conflict
the left is behind all this, and if you listen
to the Rahm leaders speak
they have a perfectly articulated speech, like an average Trotskyist militant
John Wallace, when he is interviewed, he speaks that way
they have a consubstantial speech with that line
with the particularity that Trotskyism and those expressions
are no more than foreign, european ideas
even guevarism
Exactly, and Che Guevara despised natives
I was in Bolivia the other say, for the fiftieth anniversary
Che Guevara, in his journal, in Bolivia, says that
"Bolivians are like little animals"
I do not say it, Che does in his diary in Bolivia
"they are like little animals"
do indigenous militants know that here?
So for Che Guevara, today Mapuches would be like little animals
He spoke of the indivices of the stinking and lousy flock of argentinian indiada
He spoke of the illiterate indiada of Mexico
In Venezuela, in his motorcicle diary
so nicely exhibited in the movie
if one reads the diary, because the problem of Guevarist is they do not read his journal
Journals or different writings
He speaks about black people
that they are black because of how little care they have with personal hygiene
he treats them as dirty and he says, textually:
"Unlike European tradition, which is prosperous and progress
the black person is always drunk, he spends his money on brothels and getting drunk
for Che Guevara, black people were dirty and lazy
he spoke like a recalcitrant hispanist from that time
I think the combat we have here is for culture
combat culture is no longer with bullets
