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new listeners so dr. Taylor originally
wrote a book called soul traveler
dr. Taylor welcome to the show how are
you doing hi inviting me back it's an
awesome experience again well it is
awesome and for a lot of listeners as I
just mentioned it's going to be a new
experience so we're gonna get to robots
and paranormal but you wrote a book
called soul traveler at the time it was
well still is revolutionary I would say
well thank you thank you you're very
welcome
and so give us a sense if you would as
if you were talking to a brand new
person who had never seen your book
never heard of soul travel doesn't have
the slightest clue what soul traveling
is give us the 101 please well first let
me say that I just stopped laughing
because I'm not that I was thinking why
doesn't it surprise me that you'd have a
cat named Yeti so I just had to mention
that that was kind of 22 years old
Albert 22 years old
and I'm a cat lover - I almost named my
cat Astro but I thought not maybe not
that would maybe a good idea I'm sorry
we we have a little pause so it's
important every now and then to pause or
hear each other that guy you mentions
twenty-two years old now Wow Wow senior
citizen well I love cats aw I really
anyway I saw your book soul traveler if
you're gonna give somebody an idea just
as you would from the beginning what
would you say what soul travel well
first of all I can I can say that I
never set out to write a book I was
keeping a diary and a journal basically
as far back as I can remember the age of
five is my earliest memories of having
some strange things happen to me in my
life and being terrified of them all my
life and the superstition that my family
used to infuse into that experience
didn't help any and the thing that used
to happen to me all the time was that I
would wake up in the middle of the night
and I would feel paralyzed and I
couldn't move but I could see and I get
here and in the really scary parts are
sometimes there would be something
humanoid transparent shadowy moving
around my room so at five years old my
grandmother lived with us at that time
so at five years old when I'd finally be
able to move my body which is was an
horrible experience
I would jump out of my bed and I would
go running into her room and I would say
grandma grandma there was so I couldn't
move and I was like I was paralyzed then
there was someone in my room and my
grandmother would Pat me on the back and
say oh that's all right what that was
was a witch was coming to steal your
soul because you were bad yesterday so
that was my introduction to what's now
known as out-of-body experiences so with
that kind of beginning you I wasn't
eager to embrace this at all as a matter
of fact I was terrified of it and and
there is a lot of people over the years
it was particularly in my family that
are terrified of this and they still
have this experience and those people
who out there who do have this
experience if you don't know what it is
it is very frightening you know here is
a first big question for you people are
probably sitting there going oh come on
out of body out of body can you really
verifiably leave your body either during
sleep or during a session that you you
cook up with some level of concentration
or however you would do it can you
really really really leave your body is
it for real or is it well I I don't know
what's right word not real well is it
real or is it a dream or is it a
signature and that nation is it a
neurological defect well this is what I
have to say this I was raised Catholic I
didn't believe in this stuff I wasn't
taught anything about this stuff
the closest thing to anything astral
that I knew of was Astro the dog on the
Jetsons
so being a being a scientist in
aerospace and being in the military with
a secret clearance for almost three
decades this didn't even come into my
frame of reference or a belief in in any
way shape or form but I couldn't ignore
the fact that I had been having these
neurological or paralysis episodes and
the voices and and then another thing
that I didn't know is that I was having
a lot of flying dreams and I would be
flying in my dreams all the time and not
just flying but in control of my dreams
in other words having lucid dreams but I
never knew any of that was connected and
then then later on I had the fortune of
attending a lecture of a woman who had a
near-death experience and she was the
first person she said to everybody
suggest as anybody ever felt paralyzed
and that was the first time that anybody
outside of my family had ever even
talked about it and I my hand
immediately shot up in the air and I
said yeah it happens to me all the time
and she was the very first
that said to me you may be on the verge
of having out-of-body experiences and I
looked at her and I laughed because I
didn't believe in any of that stuff
and I thought okay well if I'm really
having this is the be easy for me to
check because at that particular time
the experiences had gone from happening
maybe once a week to sometimes three
times a night so it wasn't how I didn't
have to yeah that's why it got my
attention and that's why I started
investigating it and I have to admit I I
didn't go to psychics and palm readers
and all that to investigate it first I
went to neurologists and I was looking
for a physical abnormality normality or
a genetic abnormality that was cautious
I wasn't looking for anything
hocus-pocus or magic or or anything like
that
so we're going to her when she said that
the first thing I did is that night and
it was I was amazing I kept a journal
and my journaling eventually became my
book that night I decided I was going to
conduct what maybe 10 or 20 different
experiments that draw out the week and
see and write it down and see if I could
make some sense of it and she said to me
something that began to change
everything she said if you do have one
of these experiences she said think
about coming to see me and I thought
okay I will think about that so I I
remember I had flown so many times but
I've never gone from a waking state
laying down and meditating to actually
leaving the body that I could remember
and ending up in a flying situation but
in that that particular night what I did
is I laid down and I began to because
I've been practicing and trying to
duplicate what had happened to me before
I realized that it happened when I was
very relaxed when my breathing was very
deep and Jan and and steady and I began
to imitate that little did I know was
developing some type of you know
launching technique at that time so I
began to do that and what happened was I
began to feel as if my body or the bed
was vibrating and because I live in
Southern California that's not something
so abnormal I immediately my my failsafe
is I look at this little tassel that
hang
from my ceiling fan that when there's an
earthquake it's like my little Richter
scale and I can I can judge the level
but it wasn't moving and I thought okay
and then I thought well let me turn over
and I tried to turn over and I couldn't
move this was the very first time I'd
gone from waking state today actually
the paralysis state and then I thought
and then then without me even thinking
about it all of a sudden it felt like I
felt like I had my head against the
headboard of my bed and then it felt
like my headboard began to move downward
and I thought that's a strange feeling
and then I wear glasses and I knew I
hadn't gone to bed with my glasses on
and all of a sudden I could see and not
just see blurry like I normally would
until I put my glasses on but the room
was very very clear and it had a really
strange glow to it and and then I began
to hear this sound like a buzzing sound
like just like electrical buzzing that
went along with the vibration and it was
really real loud and so while I was
what's going on I began to think about
what the lady the woman who had a
near-death experience said and I began
to think about her and this was real
strange too because this has never
happened to me while I began to think
about her all of a sudden I felt as it
and this scared me hard at first
startled me at least I felt two hands
grabbed me and kind of push pull me
toward the window and and you know we I
went through the windows kind of like if
you've ever been in a bathtub and you've
had a bubble bath and you stick your
finger in through the bubble and it
adheres to your finger that's kind of
how the glass felt going through and the
next other so that that that really is
so cool I mean just I can almost feel it
as you say it I've never done this but I
I've had I've only I've only come close
I've never had the kind of thing you're
talking about and you can actually prove
this can't you in other words you
actually go elsewhere and you've seen
people messages have transpired that
kind of thing right well this was
first night that that little bit of
evidence or clue happened because as I
began to move flying through the air
I suddenly realized this is just like
flying that I've been doing all my life
except I never entered it from a waking
state before and it didn't seem like I
was in control of the direction I was
heading it seemed like I was being kind
of guided and I could the one thing I
was in control over is going flying
higher and faster but I was in control
of the direction and after a little
while I found myself coming down toward
a rooftop that I'd in a neighborhood I'd
never been before and penetrating the
roof I thought it was gonna crash into a
but penetrating in the roof and I could
actually see the wiring and and
insulation in the Attic as out moving
down through the roof and eventually
into a bedroom somebody sniffles yeah
and so I'm standing at the foot of the
bed and I'm thinking am I dreaming this
and then I noticed in the bed was the
woman who had a near-death experience
who told me to come think about her now
none of this to me was proof at all I
could have been dreaming this and it was
wishful thinking whatever I didn't know
attention to this but I noticed that one
of her legs was sticking out of the bed
and on her leg was it looked like me to
me a cast like she had broken her leg
and I thought okay that's an interesting
thing to remember if I'm really here and
then I noticed that I knew she was
married but I'd noticed that she earned
her husband slept in twin beds and not
only was he another person I assumed
that her husband but he was in the bed
and the bed was way on the other side of
the room which I thought well that's
kind of strange
you know I thought well maybe they've
been married a long time may end up
being in the other room I don't know how
but I thought okay if I'm really here
then that's another good thing to
remember and then something I rarely
talked about this and all of a sudden
there was this being this brilliant
light
a humanoid shape thing I didn't know
what it was and it was standing by the
head of the bed of the woman and I have
to say because I'd never seen anything
like that and it was startling
overwhelming it terrified me and I
thought all I could think about was
whatever you are please I I don't want
to experience this and it this was
interesting in just one second I'm gonna
stop you from one second I think that
that is where you would lose a lot of
people normally in other words the soul
traveler part fascinating even sounds
like fun to do and people are listening
but when you start talking about
encountering a being right then you're
gonna lose some people who are gonna say
ah come on an a being but once you've
embraced one then why not the other i I
guess although it adds so much for me
terror to the story well that's why I
never I never mentioned it usually even
though it's in my book but I don't
because it was something that I still
wasn't very comfortable with but it's
been some years now since I've been
talking about this so I feel more
comfortable sharing it so but it
terrified me
I do died it wasn't thinking it was an
angel or anything I just knew that it
was something that should not have been
there and wasn't a person and but the
thing about it is it was almost as if it
knew I was afraid and it it shifted to
let's say a spectrum or frequency that I
couldn't detect that's the best way I
can describe it it's almost like turning
the dial of a radio off the station and
right I had a feeling it was still there
but it wasn't visual visibly there so I
thought to myself well I've had enough
of this I kind of felt like an astro cat
burglar or anything and I thought you
know I want to go home I want to go back
and with that thought I felt those
actions again and did all of a sudden
the scenery was it accelerated away from
me at this incredible rate of speed the
speed I it was like no other nothing
I've ever experienced no plane or any
type of vehicle I've ever experienced
could go that fast and all of a sudden I
felt like I was dropped from the ceiling
of my bedroom
landed in my bed and I woke up and I was
vibrating like crazy and I turned on the
my my the light at the end of the bed on
the bed and I took my journal out and I
began to write all of this down now up
until this point art I can actually say
I didn't believe in Auto Body
experiences I didn't believe this
experience was real at all and not even
curious if it was real
I just documented the experience like
keeping a dream journal and that's about
it so went so the next that was on a
Saturday on Monday the woman that had
the near-death experience was teaching
another class and I decided to go to her
class
and I was sitting there in the back of
her class and I couldn't wait for the
break because I wanted to ask her you
know and I said to her at the break I
said you know I had an interesting
experience dream this weekend and I want
to share it with you and she said well
what I did I thought that I had this
experience like leaving my body and I
asked to see you like you said and I
found myself in this bedroom and you
were in the bed and then I looked at her
physically and she wasn't she didn't
have a cast on her leg and I said well
but in my dream the experience that I
had you had a cast on your leg and she
said well she said you know I sleep with
a heating pad on my leg over a white
heating pad wrapped around my leg
because I have authorized in my knee and
I thought coincidence and then I said
well you know I noticed that you and
your husband sleep in two different beds
and in my dream he was way on the other
side of the room and she said yeah my
husband I put him way on the other side
the room because they had sleep apnea
and he snores and stops breathing in the
little night and he keeps me up all
night and I thought to myself
coincidence no this is where this
doesn't make sense to me because I don't
believe in this stuff but how how could
I dream that you know that didn't make a
lot of sense to me but it did make me
very very curious so I decided to
conduct another experiment then the next
night but this time it was I practice
the the
makes a little bit more and I said that
I ate at the same time I ate the
previous day and I tried to to set up
everything the way the process that led
up to me launching the night before same
thing happened I began to feel relaxed
vibration all that happened and coming
up out of my body the hands and all that
this time I Drive this is when I was on
the space station program now this is
another thing I'm not going to go around
talking and telling people that I'm
having paranormal or out-of-body
experiences and fly to Johnson Space
Center and trained astronauts on how to
assemble the space station too I'm not
going to do that that night had I'd had
a secret security clearance since I was
18 years old the first thing I worked on
that was classified was the Lockheed u2
when I was in the military
now I'd moved through all these
government programs and had this clear
and I and I'll have a top secret
clearance secret gold clearance and
there was no way that I was going to
jeopardize 22 decades of my career
talking about crazy so I take it then
Albert at this point you would have kept
all of this information tightly secured
in the little journal that you were
keeping you wouldn't have talked to
anybody about it definitely wouldn't
have talked to anybody at work about
this time back exactly except I did talk
to one person at work but I trusted her
for some reason and that was interesting
she told me she said well if you that
really you think that happened why don't
you try to visit me this time so I
thought okay it was my friend Kim so and
I wrote this in my journal too while I
was flying out of my body like the night
before with the hands guiding me of this
invisible guide of some sort person I it
dropped me this is and this is something
that's interesting
it dropped me off in front of a
apartment building that I'd never been
to in a neighborhood and this is
something that I began that was a puzzle
to me then but I understand now is I
couldn't remember where I was going and
our fast forward that reason for that is
is because
you're not you're not traveling with
your organic brain you're you have a
consciousness that's non-organic and it
doesn't remember trivialities but that's
that's an you know that's something I
discovered later on so I said set that I
was struggling trying to remember what
was I trying to do and then it dawned on
me oh yeah I was trying to visit my
friend Kim and when I remembered all of
a sudden I moved to the top floor I
moved through a wall and I found myself
in a dining room with a and this the
first thing I noticed was there was a
chandelier hanging from the dining room
but it was huge I mean it was too big
for the dining room they looked like it
belongs somewhere else and I thought
okay if I'm really here that's something
interesting to remember and then I moved
down the hallway and I noticed as I
began to go down the hallway and this
was another interesting thing if I
wasn't walking I was kind of sliding
remember like the old gum be animated
things yes at that time it wasn't
walking it wasn't like sliding floating
moving kind of thing except I was in
contact with the floor wasn't floating
above the floor and I know that I moved
to the last over the last door on the
right hand side I remember at the end
was open and I moved to the right to the
door and I came to the door and I
noticed that there was two beds in the
bit in the bedroom and there was a
window in the bedroom that was in a very
odd place it wasn't in the center of the
wall like you would think were two beds
on either side it was way in the corner
and I thought okay that's a little odd
and that's something interesting to
remember and I moved to the window and I
looked out the window and I half of it I
could see an alley way down below and
see I was on the second floor and half
of the window was blocked by a telephone
pole and I thought okay that's an
interesting thing to remember if I'm
really here so I kind of pushed out the
window and was floating above the
alleyway and I was trying to remember
how do I get back home and I remember oh
yeah
alright let me well let me for one
second stop you you said if interesting
thing to remember if I'm really here now
to me that says that you had a conscious
awareness of
fact that you were in an altered state
now for example when I dream it's very
very real until I wake up and realize
it's a dream but never in my dream do I
think this is a cool dream or I'm gonna
rewrite my dream in other words I'm
always in that state you had a conscious
awareness of the fact that you were in
this altered state yes well that's
another part of what has been happening
to me all my life is I remember when I
was 5 years old
I would go tell I try to describe it to
my mother I would say mom when I dream I
wake up in my dream and then I fly and I
I do things and and I didn't know how to
explain it back then and as I began to
grow up it I realized oh I'm having
lucid dreams and I become aware I know
that I went to sleep I know my body is
sleeping somewhere and this is a dream
that I can have fun with and that I've
been doing that all my life but never
thought of it being anything other than
just lucid dreaming that's that's a big
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from the area out 51 this sees dark
matter with art Bell to join the show
please call one eight five five real UFO
that's one eight fifty five seven three
two five eight three six actually the
matter is not that dark at the moment I
think the matter is pretty cool
if you could do this if you could put
yourself in the kind of state that dr.
Taylor is talking about you could leave
your body you could fly at will you
could tell yourself where you want to go
and you would go there distance no
object you could I've heard stories even
go to the moon and back that's right you
always do come safely back that was one
of my big questions in the beginning
about all this do you always come safely
back in and dr. Taylor before we go any
further I want to ask you if if I if I
die and I spy to my right with my little
eyes sounds like my daughter the light
and I spied my left the darkness and
I've got a turn in one direction or the
other I've had these people saying it's
a trick art don't go to the light go to
the darkness you have any advice there
well I have two different perspectives
one I own personal experience and the
other is my almost two decade experience
in the International Association of
near-death studies and eight million
people in the United States alone have
had near-death experiences and if you
just want to look at a numbers game and
not belief system there's only a handful
that I know of and I've looked in read
their books that had negative
experiences the majority of people and
that's we're talking about millions have
had a positive experience and when they
had these positive experiences it's been
with the light as they have described it
and these people who have described the
light come from all walks of life and
all belief systems and some of them with
lack thereof one of the most of may
using near-death experiences and I met
the gentleman he's a doctor he's a blind
doctor has been blind all of his life
but when he had a near-death experience
he could see and he describes seeing the
light so that's that on the near-death
experience side now my personal side I
began part of my experiment was to look
into what is this light because I didn't
know I didn't believe I I mean I was
raised Catholic
you know Catholics don't do that stuff
so I'd say about seven to ten days into
my experiment I actually had an amazing
encounter with this brilliant if you
want to use any other word except light
illumination white sparkler kind of
thing that was blinding and piercing and
it is it the one singular experience
that I can tell you that changed my life
forever and that's why none of this is
like a dream because I never had a dream
that changed my life forever what
happened was while I was having this
experience because I asked for it I said
I want to see the light while I was out
of body I encountered this brilliant it
looked like in the middle of the
darkness there was this sparkler you
know like the sparklers you have on the
fourth of July sure those white
sparklers and shards of it were going
off in all directions and it was
brilliant and I have to say if I had
physical eyes I would have thought they
probably would have been just burned
away because it was that brilliant and
the thing about it though is that I
could sense that it was wasn't just an
object and this is the thing that has
never ever happened in any other
experience except for this is I felt
emotionally naked and what I mean by
that is everything that I have ever
thought about inside my head my secrets
any everything throughout my entire life
was out on the table in front of this
for examination not for judgment but for
examination and reassessment
sorry I guess I threw all this what your
by the way we picked up a home on the
phone now I have no idea why
phone phone connections are really weird
it's not horrible but it's there the
light or the darkness which do you go to
I guess you're telling the light right I
wouldn't hesitate and but this is the
thing though it's light and darkness if
you talk on a physical world it has to
do with photons we're not talking about
photons here we're talking about a
perception that is a talent that our
soul has okay I really want to know the
light or the darkness which do you go to
the light I would say the light the
light that's all I needed was a
yesterday all right um you're really
certain about that right yes yes without
a doubt
okay now now is it is it similar in soul
traveling experiences and and in
near-death
well there's one difference between the
near-death and and just having
out-of-body experiences is that in the
near-death experience from everything
that has been described to me because I
haven't had one I just I'm just a member
everything that's been described to me
is that they are taken or shown or LED
or told they have to return that kind of
thing in the honor by experience you go
pretty much where you want to go about
80% of the time and the reason that I
say 80 is because not a hundred percent
because there are some things that
you're LED or directed to encounter but
most of the time you choose when you go
back and because it's so much fun you
have to almost fight your way to keep
from coming back but you're drawn back
eventually but it's okay I would like to
know this have you heard of anybody
having a negative experience when soul
traveling or you know near-death of
course that could be very negative but
soul traveling when you're outside your
body have you back are you aware of any
negative experiences
well yes mine my own but I can say this
it was when I was afraid and fearful in
the very beginning and all that's gone
away but in the beginning I
I had a lot of frightful experiences it
was being basically because I didn't
know that I was in control of the
experience it was a passenger instead of
a driver okay so there is a sort of a
little cautionary note here about doing
this in other words it doesn't always
turn out well but then again sometimes
you have bad dreams too
there's a learning curve so to speak and
the learning curve is about yourself
it's about your fears it's about you and
it's about you discovering that your
fears aren't founded and that is
something that through this experience
you you begin to feel more confident in
and it's like the you and I both are cat
lovers so I always use this analogy it's
like I remember when I first got my
kitten and I would the cat would I
brought it home and it was terrified of
the surrounding and then we go usually
hide somewhere and then come out you
know later on or several days later but
over a period of time the cat gets very
used to your living room and it's
running all around the house now you
want to let the cat outside so now
there's this new opening this new
doorway so to speak and the cat will go
and sniff around the doorway and you may
find it sitting on the porch but the
slightest little bit of noise that
happens the cats going to come running
back in over a period of time it's going
to be in the bushes and eventually
you're gonna be saying kini kini and the
cats going to be gone somewhere well
that's how you are in the out-of-body
experience in the beginning because you
have all these fears that you've learned
through your life that people have
shared with you not knowing that there
really weren't found it you've embraced
those fears and you take those fears
into this altered state with you so they
unfortunately are capable of manifesting
and I've see if I see something's got
big red glowing eyes trust me I'm not
gonna do it again I you know I'm not
looking for that kind of OBE I want
whoops yeah what was that I thought that
was my thought I leaned on the button
forgive me okay no problem
so anyway I don't want to spend the
whole show on this I just kind of wanted
to update people if if you're having
inexperienced folks like for example
Albert described where you're absolutely
paralyzed that's the beginning if you're
having an experience where you feel this
intense I don't know what you call it
buzzing kind of a buzzing I would say
this is the beginning now you can you
can go from there and have a full OBE
and go out of your body it'll take a
little doing but you can do it am i
right Albert yes yes are but I just
don't want to leave this loose end and
because a lot of people are already
frightened and terrified of this
experience without me even saying
anything and I want to tell them that
yes in the beginning I was afraid but
over a period time I wasn't and I and
because I began to be not be afraid I
began to explore this and here years and
years later it's the most wonderful
thing that has ever happened to me in my
life and not only me people that I've
talked to and taught how to do this my
my mother had frightful experiences all
her life and then her 70s and 80s she
has amazing out-of-body experiences so I
don't want people turned off by this and
thinking that it's going to be something
horrific and long-term and it's not it's
going to be something wonderful and yes
you can learn to leave your body which I
didn't know and didn't believe in by
relaxation and I didn't know anything
about meditation and and all these
exercises that all these shamans and and
mystics would do I didn't know anything
about that all I knew is that it would
happen to me normally without me trying
and it happened when I was relaxed and
it happened when my breathing was steady
and that type of thing and that's all I
tried to do is duplicate that Wow
well so you recommend people have
courage and if they're not find
themselves on the edge and I've been
there many times they just go ahead and
take the plunge and go out of your body
let yourself go yes well not just
because of to have the experience let it
because it's it's like it expands let's
say the first part of the experience yes
it's a lot of fun and and the
exploratory and all that but the bottom
line
is you really have to ask yourself what
are you that you can do these kind of
things so it goes beyond that so it goes
beyond just jumping on a rollercoaster
what are you that you're capable of
leaving a physical body having
encounters with non-physical flying
doing all this kind of things and we
haven't even talked about having
encounters with deceased loved ones
well you're right now the soul is what
you are and that's all is capable of
being separated from your body but not
everybody believes in the soul I mean I
was you know I was raised in the
Catholic Church where the soul was
something you kept in your pocket
practically and once in a while you
dropped in and got dirty and you had to
take it to a priest and he cleansed it
for you and you keep put it back in your
pocket and walk around with it it wasn't
something that you could relate to or
understand at least in my world too but
to say you have a soul versus that you
are a soul to me is profoundly different
and through the out-of-body experience
that's what I found and that's what a
lot of people are finding out is you
don't have a soul you are a soul and the
thing is if you are a soul and you've
come to this earth to have an earthly
human experience why did you do that and
and the out-of-body experience I really
truly believe that it's one of the most
incredible tools that we've been given
here to actually find out who and what
we really are and why we came to this
planet in the first place
the purpose of our lives um and you
would conclude the purpose of our lives
is one to evolve and that means in a lot
of ways some of them are interactive
with our fellow man fellow Souls and to
evolve internally as far as who you are
what you are how you see your
environment and I mean the physical and
the non-physical and to to perfect to
become better than you were and as you
become better which I've found out the
more I evolved the more I'm able to
accomplish these experiences and and
further and see things that I never ever
would have dreamed up so I really
believe that every one of us has come
here to evolve to a higher being that's
going to up open the doors to truly to
miracles I really believe that well you
should have done by now you should have
done a very great deal of evolving I'm
still working on it
evolution is spiritual evolution is a
ongoing process and challenging is your
book by the way generally still
available if people want to learn about
all this as far as I know it's still on
amazon.com I think Barnes and Noble is
still carrying it and a multitude of
other bookstores all over the place and
for my spanish-speaking friends I have a
new book out called viajero astral and
it's about my story and a little bit
more than soul traveler and it's
available in Spanish also no kidding
all right a lot of people I think will
enjoy that so that was it and it's gonna
wind right into this next topic and I
don't know how but we're about to find
out I guess you you're doing some
strange stuff I was really surprised you
know I looked at some of the photographs
that you for example supplied for
tonight's show and suddenly you're into
robots but not just robots robots for
paranormal investigation is that right
right yes yes and you know well let me
tell you how this happened please
journey first of all I'm trying to
understand the out-of-body experience
and I'm trying to reach the research
that through my own projections and
documented and that type of thing and
then I'm teaching people and documenting
theirs and then the next door because I
really think that the paranormal
community or investigative community
does themselves a disservice by putting
up all these imaginary barriers between
different disciplines and what I mean by
that is just because I'm having
out-of-body experiences doesn't mean
that it's related to ghost
investigations doesn't mean that it's
not related to UFO investigation that
kind of thing we don't know we know it's
a mystery
so one of the things because of my
background in in aerospace to me the
paranormal and out-of-body experiences
isn't unknown and in my world we what we
do with unknowns especially in NASA is
that we send out probes to explore the
unknown before a man there was a mariner
that crashed on the moon long before
Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon so
we sent out these probes also when we're
investigating the deep in the ocean we
also send probes so it didn't it didn't
it made a lot of sense to me and now me
I been building robots I'm a member of
the Riverside robotic Society and what
we do is we build autonomous we design
building autonomous robots we also put
on shows so that was a hobby of mine and
then paranormal investigation was also
an interest of mine and then outed by
experiences so these three things are
evolving around each other and bumping
into each other and I realized let me
let me tell you how that I realized I
got called by a realtor a realtor in
Rialto California
she had this house that it was a
hundred-year-old home and the guy that
she usually sends to clean up the home
something happened to him and at the
home that terrified him so bad that he
refuses to go back to the home to
continue cleaning so she's a realtor she
says I don't know about this stuff but
I'd like to have you guys you go in your
team go there and investigate this house
and find out what happened so I thought
okay so we go to the house and it's one
of those old homes that you see in the
movies and and including a hidden
pathway behind the bookcase that that
slides out it's really really quite
interesting one of the things I noticed
is during this the investigation of that
particular home is that when we open the
bookcase and look into the pathway or
the passageway I noticed that the layer
of dust was so thick it had probably
been there for at least 80 years or more
I don't know exactly but a very very
very long time
and I thought about this the last thing
being a researcher scientist the last
thing I want to do is disturb an
investigative scene and I was trying to
figure out how do we investigate this
pathway without just messing up
everything and and ruining all our and
contaminating our evidence and that's
when it dawned on me about building a
robotic probe autonomous robotic probe
not radio controlled but autonomous
robotic okay when you say autonomous you
mean that can think for itself think for
itself right right one something that
like for instance right now the probes
that we have on on Mars they are semi
autonomous and practically in this semi
autonomous meaning that there you can
control them and your guide them where
you want it to go and in certain
situations and emergency when it's on
its own because the signal takes so long
to get there that it can make certain
decisions on its own also so that a
fully autonomous is something that can
just make decisions period you don't
need to interact with it and it will
accomplish this mission kind of like the
the Predator drones the Predator drones
are semi autonomous where there's a
pilot and he controls it and he takes
off in lanza but there's some automated
programs that you can punch into it that
it accomplish its mission on its own so
that's that's what semi an autonomous is
well that's that's very serious stuff I
mean to to create a robot is one thing
hard enough god knows but to make it
autonomous or even semi autonomous Wow
what kind of decisions can your robots
make well let's start off with the first
one the first one is and this is another
thing is I like to build my robots out
of discarded items because I it's kind
of like recycling to me I want to make
my robots green as possible so
everything I go around scrounging and
taking apart VCRs and you name it so and
and I has it has what's called a micro
controller now what a micro controller
is it's a brain basically and it's a
computer you know and you can upload
programs into that brain using a
language called see that that brain will
use and and and execute its mission so
what you do is you attach sensors and
things like that to the brain and you
attach it's kind of like a person our
brain our we have five senses that is
attached to our brain and then the motor
functions you attach that to the robot
and then you and upload a program that
tells all of that how to work together
and what to do so what my robot is
capable of doing and this is one thing
that was really important for me and I
realized that it was limiting my
investigation was something called time
on station and time on station is where
you show up at a vested site you have
maybe two to four hours of investigative
time and explain not including set-up
time and then you're gone and that that
to me was the most inefficient way of
investigating a site that you could come
up with what happens with the robot is
your time on station increases to the
duration that the robot is capable of
performing like my my robots are capable
of going 24/7 and the reason they're
capable of doing that is because they it
runs off of a battery and then it also
runs it can power self with us it has a
solar array on top of our solar panel on
top of it that it can charge itself with
ambient light and what if what if there
is no ambient light what if it's in
little R and what what if it's in an old
house in some secret passageway how much
operational time do you have there well
typical this is a typical of how the
program runs it has enough power to last
all night long and during the daytime
when the power gets low it seeks a light
source and it'll spark it'll sit in park
and the light source and recharge and
then continuous programming not you know
it's making the decision to do that
itself right right yes it drew it uses
users license it uses sense what I call
as a sharp infrared sensors and it also
uses like a photo sensor also to detect
the light and
it'll move and park in a particular
location like a Canadian parking or a
light or a beam of sunlight coming
through a curtain or any type of light
source they'll Park their recharge the
battery up to 12 volts it's a 12 volt
battery and then it will continue to run
its mission now it has on it it has an
EMF meter electromagnetic field meter it
has night-vision cameras it has audio it
has digital recorders and has night
vision it has everything that an
investigator would walk around with it
has that except it can stay 24/7 it
doesn't get tired and it only eats power
to survive so it increased my time on
station to you know 24 hours and which
also eliminated what I call so called
needle needle in a haystack
investigations and what that is is you
go out in the middle of the night and
you pray that you find something even
though you don't have a slightest clue
when it's going to happen and that oh
yeah that is so cool hold on doctor
we've got to take a break here that is
so cool
listen I have received a lot of comments
now finally about the sea crane FM
transmitter I've been telling you about
it and finally I'm beginning to see
people going wow I bought one of these
and it's really cool it really works
the FM transmitter is good for well it's
a transmitter first of all so you know
if you wanted to have your own little
show I guess you could do that but
beyond that you hook things up to it you
know mp3 player for example internet
radio XM sirius radio whatever you want
a lot of people don't want to be stuck
in one place for example this is a
long-form talk radio show right and
you're interested in the material but
you have to sit near the computer wrong
you get the C train FM transmitter just
hook it up to the the computer's audio
output you know plug a little plug in
and then you can go around your house
and you can listen to it on any radio
including one that you'd carry around
with you portable now it's too cool not
to get now I want to remind everybody
that you should not hook up a 36 inch
wire
to increase the coverage you're not
supposed to do that it operates 88.3 to
107 megahertz in other words a whole FM
band you can put it wherever you want
got a little LCD readout on it I mean
this thing is absolutely trick it's
small enough it'll fit into the palm of
your hand but it'll broadcast your whole
house it's got an adjustable input lever
for near broadcast quality audio stereo
and time it's rated up to 45 feet
line-of-sight but you know if you have
that extra wire on there and if you do a
little research on the internet about it
well trust me to order the FM
transmitter for just um welcome to call
up and give me a review here on the air
that's eight hundred five two two eight
six three the FM Craft Center three two
five eight three six you know what I
wonder I kind of wonder I love I mean
sure there there might be a use for a
robot in a paranormal investigation and
in fact actually there might be a very
good use because when you involve human
beings you're involving everything
emotion I miss sensory input
that's kind way of putting it I guess in
other words sensory input that is flawed
to be honest with you that kind of thing
I wonder if that was part of the
reasoning for creating robots for this
purpose what about it Albert well you
hit the nail right on the head
humans even even though we're awesome
vehicles and amazing creations were
limited just a simple thing like if I
were an investigator and I'm standing in
a room everything in front of me and I
have a camera in front of me everything
in front of me I can take a picture of
but I'm missing what happens behind me
my robot can see 360 degrees all the
time and if anything moves it's going to
snap a picture of it or record an audio
or an image of some
or humans we don't we can't do that okay
you're absolutely right it's got a
360-degree sensory view that's really
cool okay right so what happens is the
amount of data and an interesting data
not just blank screen the amount of data
that I collect increases tremendously
we're actually start getting things and
I don't end up having these
needle-in-a-haystack investigations
where you spend hours walking around
trying to find something you leave with
nothing
also some cases cases we would go to a
location and spend the night well when
you sleep
you're losing investigative time and the
robot can sit there and just investigate
constantly another thing is I'm working
on I just did a proposal to a foundation
where I'm designing a robot that is
capable of hunting for Bigfoot and the
one of the name you like yeah we don't
wait a minute a hunt for Bigfoot you're
gonna have to be out in the middle of
the forest you're gonna have to be going
over territory that I can see night
vision and that certainly would be
effective but my goodness you're gonna
be in rough territory for a robot the
robots going to be in rough territory
but this is the thing all the shows that
our investigations I've ever seen they
go there to the site they stay maybe at
the most
overnight to maybe a few days and they
they sleep in the tent and then they go
running out at night to try to track
down a sound or noise and then they come
back and they pack up and leave that a
robot can matter the one I'm working on
right now it's capable of climbing over
fallen trees that are almost waist high
because it has to be able to maneuver
out in this wooded area by itself and
what it's capable of doing is that it's
capable of like my smaller robot of
charging during the day and hunting 24/7
so it then it doesn't take 24 hours or
and even all day to charge so while the
human investigator is sleeping or
or just running around in one particular
area the like a submarine and I'm really
you mentioned Tom Clancy and he was a
huge reason that I put I put sonar
sensors on my robot is that the the the
robot is capable of a passive of
monitoring it has active capability to
which means it sends out a signal but it
also has passive where it's capable of
just listening or responding to some
type of light source so now it's sitting
out in the middle of the forest by
itself things are moving around and it's
capable of moving toward that object by
itself and investigating that object
alone even if the robot is let's say the
worst case scenario even if it's
destroyed by a Bigfoot or some kind of
animal out there we're still going to
get incredible pictures leading up to
that event sure I mean in most horror
movies you mentioned you know it's a
short period 24 hours most horror movies
I've ever seen the big the girl with the
biggest bust gets dismembered quickly
and then everybody well some
investigators and I'll tell you I we
seem like a brave lot but some of us
aren't so brave and I've actually had
investigators scream and run away from a
situation in the middle of a paranormal
event or anomaly so one of the things
the robots don't do is they don't run in
terror and drop cameras and go through
the night such a good point yes so when
did you start building paranormal
investigative robots I'd say about four
years ago I started putting the two
together and the first time I
investigated a site with the robot the
results was overwhelming I would just
thought oh my god Eureka because it was
capable of doing so much that I was
never I was it wasn't capable of doing
before okay well one is I want to know
what do what what have you investigated
and what evidence have you uncovered
with the robots well recently the the
more interesting one is a place out by
the
out by the the west coast it's called a
place called dead house and what that is
a number of people have gone to this
house and investigated it but one of the
things that happen to one of my
investigators and and this is something
that I don't see a lot of people talking
about is my investigator was actually
attacked physically by something I'm
seeing we could know where do you mean
your room you're calling it your
investigator you mean your robot man no
my you might you're human oh yeah
my human investigate he was attacked and
grabbed on his arm and it left his huge
bruise on his forearm which I sent your
picture of right well there's on the
website art bell does calm folks and
that wasn't the first time that
something negative happened to one of my
investigators another time we were at
this location in Canoga Park where my
investigator would walk into the room
and the camera would fail and she'd walk
out of the room and the camera would
come back on and she walked back in the
rooms trying to snap a picture and in
the process of that shot of a sudden she
grabbed her throne so I can't breathe
that grant can't breathe scared all of
us we assured her out into the living
room and it took her a little while to
regroup and to recover from whatever
what's happening in there that would not
have happened with a robot and that when
in the particular location at dead house
I have to admit I've been on maybe a
hundred investigations and I've never
affected in any way shape or form but at
this particular place this was the first
time that I ever got nauseous and suffer
from severe stomach abdominal cramps in
this one particular room when I would go
in the room I would get sick and then
when I'd go out and leave the room and
go outside I feel fine so because of
these two things my investigator being
grabbed and bruised and because of the
physical illness that I felt we sent in
my servo my fully autonomous robot who
was capable of taking all kinds of
readings and coming back with mapping
the particular area and measuring all
the electromagnetic spikes that were in
the reading and in the room and taking
video footage of it and right now I'm
really gonna ask you I'm on on
my own website art Belle calm looking
into pictures right now these are some
pretty doggone good looking robots I
would swear robot one is r2d2 it almost
looks like r2d2 did you model it after
that well that those particular three
they're r2d2 the b9 from lost in space
and the wild II are robots that are
examples of what my robotic the robotic
society the type of expose that we put
on those aren't my robotic probes the
servo is the one that was built from
it's like a Roomba servo - it says servo
- investigated the robotic vehicle
observer right he's the Roomba on
steroids that's the one that is capable
autonomous investigation the other one
which is and and one of the
investigations I did was with a little
girl and she was having the glass this
was interesting the glass in a picture
kept breaking at night the shattering in
the middle of the night there was
nothing was thrown at it it was just
break and we found glass bits and pieces
all over the floor we're right below it
so was that what we did is I put servo
in the room with her and it stayed in
the room with her all night long and it
was capable of monitoring the room and
it picked up some audio sounds of
something moving around and it picked up
in a shadowy image by the window which
there was nothing out there but the
thing about it is servo every time it
would move to take a photo or something
it would wake her up and scare her
because it doesn't look you know all
that friendly so that's why I created
design and built Oscar which Oscar you
know this is a little bit more colorful
and a little more friendly and it has
six or seven facial expressions and is
more interactive and works better with
children when we when I do investigative
investigations with Jeff I was a kid I
would like Oscar much much better
Oscar is very popular I can imagine how
long have you been doing this for
I mean actively investigating well
because
I remember you asked me about this one
time about moving into the paranormal
and leaving the ahta body experience
arena which right is really I haven't
because the out-of-body experiences that
I've been having are paranormal in
itself and I started having encounters
with deceivers relatives and things like
that and to me that that branched into
me trying to to bridge the two together
that they were related so I would say
that I've been investigating the
paranormal probably since 1997 at least
straight-on question please
do you believe ghosts are real I don't
like to use the word ghost usually I use
anomaly but there is a an anomaly that
is intelligent that is capable of
speaking languages including English
that is capable of interacting with the
physical world by touching and bruising
up scratching uh sighs I want a straight
on answer here don't be afraid of the
word if it was once a living being and
it is now present in whatever form and
noticeable to the physical world we're
gonna call it a ghost now is so it is it
real or not are there really ghosts or
not yes yes I don't understand them
completely answer we dog yeah I don't
understand them completely but yes the
the the human consciousness survives the
death of the physical body and it
survives in in different states some of
the states are capable of interacting
with the the the physical world and
actually this is the the ones that the
cases I think are the more interesting
ones or not when you get some in some
some nonsense EVP that says the window
is open or the couch is brown or
something like that that to me is
ridiculous and doesn't really go
anywhere the ones that I think are very
interesting is when it's interactive
when you ask a question and it ask
actually answers the question
and that's ones I've had
where I asked this this citizen I was in
the situation on the Queen Mary and I
asked what is your name and the end and
whatever it was answered Johnny so those
are the ones I think are very very
interesting here's what I want to know
what what produces a ghost there are
many people Albert who feel that an
untimely death a murder a violent death
is more likely to produce a ghost then I
don't know every day passing away if
there is such thing as everyday passing
away do you think that is true is that
what have you learned well I learned
that that probably has very little to do
with it
and what has more to do with producing a
lingering conscious entity is the lack
of awareness and what I mean by that is
the lack of awareness on what to expect
when you do die we we condition
ourselves to believe certain things here
and the physical that are going to
happen to us but it's not necessarily
true when you pass on on the other side
so that lack of awareness of what they
really expect keep them because there's
no time it keeps you in this limbo so to
speak this this lingering area where you
may try to interact or or move around in
the physical locations that meant
something to you emotionally no but a
lot of a lot of those don't know they
have passed on that's that's exactly
what I mean by the lack of awareness
most don't realize it because there
isn't a huge change as far as the way
you feel there and it's very similar
maybe it may be more enlightened and
more you become more aware but it's
really not a huge difference and if you
look at all the the stories of people
having near-death experiences they
describe trying to walk around their
houses the interaction mailman because
they're not aware that because I whup in
Catholic school we never talked about
near-death experiences so
I if I before I had all these
experiences out-of-body and before my
investigations I can honestly say if I
were to pass away before then I would
have been looking for Gabriel and all
the things that I was taught that was
going to happen to me and that would
keep me in a particular area for because
there's no time for a what we would call
haunting and keep me there for two to
three hundred years or more but it's not
permanent not permanent
I'm gonna tell a ghost story I guess
when Halloween comes I've only got one
my big ghost story is he's not such a
great ghost story it's but it's the
truth when Ramona passed my wife passed
I was finally alone in the house by
myself and let me tell you something
Albert this is really amazing
I started getting cold and I mean really
really cold I couldn't sleep I was awake
all night I was freezing I actually went
and got in a shower turned the water on
hot or as hot as I could take it and sat
there in the shower and let it pour over
me and no matter what I did I don't care
what I did I could not get warm and
moreover even though I didn't see a
ghost I didn't see Ramona she was
absolutely there and she was all around
me her presence was it's right word
overpowering that she was there and this
went on for some days Albert actually
went on for some days and it totally
freaked me out so I don't know what that
was but it lifted and eventually went
away but I mean for sure she was there
well maybe I can add a piece of the
puzzle for you here free you know well
what I've noticed is because I walk
around and part of my gear is a laser
temperature sensor and to measure
different you know cold spots and things
like there are alleged cold spots I
should say but one of the things I
noticed is that we humans are capable of
sensing
things other than temperature and and in
others words capable of sensing ions and
when ions move and collect in a certain
area what that movement what that does
is that gives us a feeling of cold or
coolness and it just so happens that
paranormal anomalies or ghosts when they
manifest themselves and in particular
areas they draw in a lot of ions start
moving toward their area wherever they
are so that makes sense that you could
not get warm because it wasn't a
temperature reason why you were sensing
the cold it was when people sense cold
it's usually because of the ions moving
but it's still definitely something
paranormal well I would say it could've
been shock of course I was in a kind of
a shock but it was way more than that
Albert the sense of her presence was so
overwhelming and there there are many
religions that feel that when a person
passes that for at least a period of
time they do remain earthbound and then
eventually after some days or weeks they
do move on but typically three days a
lot of people talk about three days you
heard that well well dr. Melvin Morris I
think he wrote a book a while back about
car titled parting visions and he talked
about that period of time after a person
passes away where they kind of visit and
say goodbye to their loved ones and and
that goes on maybe you know 72 to 48
hours or whatever that is not a fixed
thing that kid and what happens that
I've noticed and I just had my mother
passed away almost two years ago and I
had incredible experiences with her
Simpson I haven't talked about with
anybody yet but what I noticed is that
the more I thought about her and the
more emotional I felt about her loss the
more that presence felt that I had
her being here and I know I mean just I
knew it I'll see all right see the
people who would debunk this kind of
thing would say well sure
the more you thought about her the more
of an effect there was because you were
manipulating in essence we've got to
break your own brain to bring that on
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we've got a guy here dr. albert keller
who did stuff like work on the
International Space Station the f-117 a
star wars when that was cookin and now I
was that then he goes into the
paranormal world tells you how to leave
your body and these sort of returns to
what he was doing and he builds robots
to investigate paranormal stuff like
ghosts which is what we're talking about
right now and to illustrate my point dr.
Taylor as I was talking about that I
started getting cold yeah I I I think
the brain does do that a little bit I
started getting cold and I never turn
the temperature up in here I've got this
wonderful air conditioner that will go
anywhere I tell it to go and usually I
like it nice and cool in here but I
started getting too cold just as I was
talking about it so I had to turn the
temperature up so please my point is
well you touched on something I think
it's very important to address and just
like when Galileo was talk he you know
up until Galileo the church believed
that the the Sun and air all the other
planets revolved around the earth and
Galileo made a mistake is he actually
observed to what is actually happening
today but he tried to yeah he tried to
let it describe that and let that
influence spiritual and religious
teachings and that's what got him into
trouble so when you talk about when you
talk about your experience with Ramona
which IRA who I remember well and I've
talked to her many times and really had
a wonderful time with her and I talk
about experiences with my mother
I think it's ethically important that
paranormal researcher should not try to
invalidate your experience or try to
invalidate mine also on the same regard
I think it's important to realize that
your experience and my experience is not
data and not to be presented as proof of
any sort that the paranormal exists
that's something else that needs to be
collected in a very I would never in a
million years present that as evidence
of paranormal right what I would say
though is that what you're doing at
least has a chance of coming up with
hard evidence of the paranormal and and
I wonder if you have yet I mean you know
you've been doing this for a while now
you go to haunted areas I presume
how do you have to you have to travel to
do this right yes yes yes I have data I
have pictures of things that I still
can't explain art for instance in the
Rialto home that I did the hundred euros
when we went back and set up a camera
what we did is there's a shot where it's
a static camera which also robots do
very very well it's a shot of my
investigators maybe about five of us
entering a doorway and then walking you
can see in the distance through the
doorway of us walking up a distant
stairwell and milliseconds after we go
up the stairwell this and this shocked
me I think I've watched it maybe a
thousand times
there is a transparent partial humanoid
figure from the waist up you can see the
arms the part of the torso and a little
bit of the head in the neck area that
moves through that area through the
doorway following us so I don't know
what that was it shouldn't have been
there
it appeared to be humanoid it appeared
to be moving on its own and it was
because it was following us I'm thinking
it was aware this to me is the type of
evidence or data that I would be
definitely willing to present but not to
invalidate personal experiences I think
we're capable and that's what we're
regarding the out-of-body experience
that's why I'm trying to bridge the two
and remove barriers because I believe
that the human body the human
consciousness is capable of sensing what
we call paranormal because I don't think
it's really paranormal I think it's
normal because in our natural state
we're not physical beings
I definitely believe that the human
consciousness is capable of sensing
these things so I wouldn't want to
invalidate it I would use it as a tool
to support something that would be a
little bit more concrete and and and
collected in a little bit more research
manner so is it's a it's a it's a help
it's helpful but it doesn't should not
drive any any particular investigation
okay uh you said you you build these
robots to some degree out of old VCRs
right and I was wondering now what you
could do is give me your address here on
the air and then we could request that
everybody out there with an old VCR you
could make an army of robots yeah that
would make me real popular in my
neighborhood I can see your yard now
piled high with these old VCRs but I can
see they would have some pretty good
parts in them actually mechanical parts
and otherwise bedroom so I can see the
citation from the city right now yeah
yeah
that's the thing about being a member of
this club that I'm a member of is that
you don't realize and it's a kind of a
subculture robot builders and you don't
realize what type of everyday technology
that surrounds us that's in everyone's
home right now that has multiple uses
the infrared sensor inside of the remote
control the incident infrared reader in
a VCR the motors that run the tape all
these little names can be used and and
adding in when you add Mary all these
things to a microcontroller a brain
that's capable of reading the data
coming off of these sensors and then
what do you use for a brain I'm curious
what what do you use for the brain well
there's a thing that I fell in love with
it's called a Romeo Arduino and
basically amateur robot builders use
what's called and are during arduino
platform it's a arduino controller
microcontroller there are different
after markets and offshoots that have
developed on they used all the same
language the Arduino language which is C
and sometimes C++ but the I found a
particular microcontroller in England
when I was there that is capable of
doing amazing thing it does everything I
wanted to do and that is the ones that I
put inside my robot because what is
capable of doing
is not only sensing all the type of data
recording all the deeper data that I
want but it's actually capable of moving
the robot in very very detailed and
precise areas that I want and it's
easily programmable and extremely
powerful so it's called a Romeo Arduino
okay you know I here's a question for
you I mean I can understand when you
were working on the International Space
Station the f-117 or SDI you're getting
paid very well for high-level work but
how does a soul traveler robot
investigating paranormal guy eat well my
books take care of my income as far as
so traveler and things like that but
it's just interesting I just got through
finished filming a sizzle reel for a
show regarding the robots
so there's interests and people are
interested in what I do and through all
the things that I and I just got back I
was in England lecturing so all those
type of and I'm I'm going to be
lecturing again here shortly in Anaheim
so all those little things that I do
kind of piece together and help me to
continue what I do and and and I love
what I do
oh I bet you do but as I mentioned it's
going to cost money I mean building
robots cost money travelling to various
haunted locations to deploy ones robots
has got to be expensive well I'm sorry
to cut you off I've been affiliated with
several research facilities in the past
for a long time and they have spent
thank goodness I'm so appreciative they
have spent a lot of money supporting my
investigations over the since 1996 I'd
say so
they've helped out a tremendous amount
alright now let's get back to Bigfoot
for a second Bigfoot is a hot topic
everywhere you said your robots would be
capable of a Bigfoot investigation how
would you deploy your robot to to look
for Bigfoot well first of all it would
have a charging station that it could
come back to if they couldn't find the
charges
it would have a solar panel and and
sensors to detect light sources so they
can go and sit just like my small robot
does so your robots never have a problem
do they they know to go to the light I
haven't had a problem the problem would
only be the programmer me they know to
go to the light they need it for their
batteries right yes and anything I tell
it to do in the program I test it I mean
a lot you'll do a lot of R&D on it and
only when I feel confident that it's
capable of performing the function with
the minimum amount of input if sometimes
none at all only then do I place the
robots in the field and so far every
time I have placed the robot in the
field I have never had a failure and
it's accomplished what I set out for it
to do but you can't just haphazardly do
that you have to it's kind of like when
you're cutting wood they say measure
twice cut once well when you're doing
robotics and you're doing investigations
you have to go over it just like NASA
launches probes to anywhere that probe
goes through testing that you would not
believe it also has redundancy just in
case something fails so you try to come
you try to come up with any possible
contingency and situation that you would
have to adapt to and incorporate that
into the design and the programming so
that it can accomplish its mission and
so far I've been pretty successful at
that well it's such a fascinating idea I
mean your robots will go I guess where
humans probably don't want to go in
terms of paranormal investigation and
moreover they will catch things that
humans won't catch they have a
360-degree look around and they can take
a picture I guess instantly in any
direction they want to it really is a
fabulous idea have you caught a full-on
entity yet well let me just address the
Bigfoot thing does it put a
a capper on that here yeah
the thing about robotics versus humans
is that I really believe and I told this
to the my producers I really believe if
you give me enough time I'm going to
find something because there's not going
to be a down time so I believe it's
going to move in the direction even if
let's say the Bigfoot or whatever you
want to call this thing it's sleeping or
it finds a little cave at night
well my robot is going to eventually
find that cave it's going to move every
time it moves it moves closer and closer
to it it's picking it up different
sensors and motion and things like that
and it's eventually going to narrow down
the space and find wherever this source
is so you're telling me your robot could
track a Bigfoot into a cave it can track
it in not a matter of fact the design
that I have and it's the same program
one of the it's a modified program I use
it on on servo servo was capable of
finding doorways underst tables it's
it's capable of finding a lot of things
because it uses infrared technology to
measure its environment and it
calculates where and in opening is and
it makes this the changes to move in
that direction so it's really not that
hard as far as physically the real key
is making sure that the program can
adapt and that you have the right
sensors on to accomplish whatever the
task is so yeah all right I've got a gal
here who sent a message through the
wormhole I guess because she got
frustrated she cannot find your
photographs come on folks if you can get
to the point where you can send me a
message that means you're on art bell
comm once you're on art bell comm just
look for the name we've got gif guest
names up there one of them is Albert
Taylor click on that click on Albert
Taylor's name and then you'll get the
robot pictures and I understand it's
it's frustrating if you're on a website
and you can't find something but it's
really not that hard please just do that
and then I see you with a picture of a
robotic helicopter right yeah that's
that's my latest one it's for a condor I
found
a microcontroller that is kept capable
of measuring the in three different
planes dimensions and it has I haven't
put it on yet but I have different types
of cameras one of the things I want to
use because there's a lot of
Investigations I do in the ground but IB
I'm approached I've been approached by
people who want me to investigate UFOs
I've even well there's no I want to
specify if you haven't seen it if you're
not looking at the photographs this is
not a toy helicopter this well it is but
I mean it's a big helicopter you're a
big guy and so it gives me a reference
for the size of this helicopter and it's
pretty doggone big yeah yeah and it's
capable of traveling at 80 miles an hour
it's and the blade tips on the blade
tips have been tracked at 200 miles an
hour
so it's an is dangerous it's capable of
literally cutting off your head the
blade tips are made of fiberglass so it
has to be respected just like you would
respect any type of flying vehicle Wow
and this helicopter is going to be used
in for UFO investigations and I guess
paranormal as well is it noisy is it
quiet what it's it's so quiet what I do
is I take it for a walk down the street
literally so it's hovering out in front
of me walking in front of me I take it
for a walk like I would walk my dog it's
very quiet very quiet very quiet and it
is the most amazing thing I've flown it
off the at the off the pier the the
cliff that leo carrillo beach and over
the waves and it's just an amazing
amazing vehicle but the thing that I
want to use it for is I got approached
by a UFO phenomena or sighting that
happened in Northern California that I
want to use it for that particular area
to trace the path of the vehicle that
was photographed and see if I can
measure some type of readings and things
like that from the elevation that was it
was spotted at
you know it seems to me Albert that you
would be lucky if you didn't cause you
have all reports with that thing right
you know people unidentified is the
keyword right if we don't know what it
is I remember when I was working on the
stealth fighter and people would give
get glimpses of and this was before the
Air Force even acknowledged it as people
would report it as a UFO sighting so
it's something that people they don't
necessarily understand doesn't mean that
it's necessarily is extraterrestrial
well here's something I want to ask you
about
there was a story recently I guess it
was a grandma in her house right and I
think it was the police or one of the
alphabet agencies I'm not sure but they
were flying a helicopter drone and this
was outside this lady's house and she
totally freaked out and she went got her
20 gauge and just blew this thing with
birdshot right out of the sky and
frankly if you saw something like that
hovering outside your window that might
be your first inclination this is
something awful and I'm going to
dispatch it I would say that I don't
know about other than you know I've used
it in California extensively and most
people who see it immediately know what
it is and kids as a matter of fact it's
just the opposite I haven't people had
people afraid of it I've had him forget
how dangerous it is and had him walk up
on it and get too close I haven't really
had anything so that to me in my
experience has been more of a threat
where people would you know and
especially children go running up on it
rather than be terrified because it
helicopters I first started flying
radio-controlled helicopters God maybe
30 years ago maybe even more I was in
the military with my honey when I first
got my first radio control helicopter
and that was in the late 70s so they've
been around for a very very very long
time they've just gotten better and
smarter and they're capable of doing
things that a lot of helicopters aren't
capable of doing like ma the one that
I'm holding is capable flying inverted
upside-down and doing like you're
kidding I didn't
well helicopter to do that yeah it's
capable of hovering upside down and
doing loops so I said yeah I thought
people said loops were impossible there
was a turbine legend of some kind well
there are two helicopters that are
capable of doing that right now one of
them is ours one is foreign the Apache
Longbow
is capable of doing rolls and loops so
we do have a helicopter that is capable
doing that and how it works is that when
it goes upside down the prop blades
invert they changed so you know I I
understand so I've got it all right but
but it can be done yeah okay it wouldn't
make any sense otherwise so thank you
for explaining that and believe me I've
crashed a lot of helicopters learning
that process I've seen advertisements
for the you know the newer helicopters
you can buy for not that much money
anymore
and they're amazing I mean you they can
be hovering in front of you and you can
take your hand and push them away and
the GPS in them will return them slowly
right to where they were right the one
that the Condor that I'm holding it has
an autogyro inside of it that it
actually stabilizes itself and you can
put different types of other sensors in
it that is capable of doing that but the
little helicopter little toys which is
really interesting because when I first
got into this they they didn't exist so
they've really I mean almost any
seven-year-old can fly some of these
helicopters now but the thing is that
you got to remember that when that that
helicopter I'm holding has a one
horsepower engine and it's capable of
develop an amazing amount of power and
torque and it really isn't a toy if it
maybe in a don't know but it's really
icy think you want to run around
somewhere L know I can clearly see that
all right hold tight dr. Taylor dr.
Albert Taylor is my guest from NASA to
defense work the space station the sole
traveling and now helicopters and robots
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okay I'm not sure what we're dealing
with here but I'm getting a lot of
wormhole messages like this
let me read them I'm sorry art finding
on your photos finding photos on your
website is ridiculous lady couldn't find
photos is not alone
or I had to search Taylor in the search
bar to find the bio with pics he's not
in the guest list oh and here there's
another one guests and a show
information should be listed in order of
the newest show first Albert is listed
on page two which doesn't exactly load
as much information has been added the
site is becoming more cluttered up to
the show love the show alright well you
know this is something we've got to work
out like everything else I'd like our
stereo I guess um listen
get hold of here is what you should do
yet hold of webmaster at art bell calm
that's his email address webmaster at
art bell calm so if you're having
trouble tell them what platform you're
using are you I mean we live in a
different day and age not just computers
anymore about iPads iPhones various cell
phones all kinds of different platforms
so maybe maybe your platform is not
seeing things the way mine is I don't
know of any other way to put it
I'm not sure why you're having trouble I
I certainly don't have trouble here but
I'm getting enough of these messages
that obviously something's going on so
send a message off to webmaster at art
bell calm and tell them what you're
using and why you have trouble and
go from there and try and figure this
out because obviously we need to Albert
welcome back thank you what I'd like to
do is tell my my board op Evan back
there in Washington DC to clear the
lines what we're going to do is open the
lines and sort of start a slow but sure
conversation with the audience and I'll
allow them to call in if that's okay
with you Albert sounds great one of my
favorite things to do all right good and
you can your questions can be anywhere
in what we've talked about you know from
soul traveling to leaving your body to
his robots what he's found whether you
you know whatever any of this is fair
game and the number is 855 real UFO
that's a toll-free number eight five
five real UFO or eight five five seven
three two five eight three six now where
were we I guess with the we've left off
at the helicopter and again you must
have expended a tremendous amount of
money to do things it really must have
been very costly on one of the things
I've learned I'm sorry for laughing
what's so funny well one of the things
I've learned art is that you don't count
the dollars when you do something like
this because you always you will always
I could have done this I could have done
that you never ever do that I don't I
don't know that I I try to accomplish
the the task at hand in a reasonable
manner and I think the fact that I build
stuff out of things that people throw
away is a huge cost savings it is but I
don't see a VCR in that helicopter maybe
there is one somewhere else well you
know the thing about it is this is this
is more than just a hobby to me this is
something I'm really this to me it's a
form of self-discovery and all these
little pieces of this puzzle that I
thought called you know the nature of
human consciousness those things are I
can't think of anything
important than that and and the closer
I've gotten to to discovering what the
nature of human consciousness is the
more exciting in and and cost-effective
I think it becomes I think that if I can
discover something profound about our
existence like the relationship
yeah the relationship between astral
substance and dark matter for instance
if I can discover something like that
and I've spent a few pennies on a
helicopter and a few other things too
something that's going to change the
nature of consciousness globally then it
was money well spent all right well I'm
going to frustrate the hell out of
everybody now because the last
photograph in the series of photographs
which are really cool ones is really an
awesome picture and folks what it is is
a picture of a UFO and I don't know
where this was taken well I actually I
have an idea because I've seen those
windmills before in California I would
guess probably up near the Bay Area
somewhere that's yes let me let me give
you a little back history on that a
little bit so you see how how come I'm
so impressed with it Oh God well
basically I received that from an
individual that I've known probably
since I was 14 years old he is the
reason that I joined the United States
Air Force yeah if he hadn't ravenna my I
went down there with to the recruiter
with him before him to join and I ended
up joining that particular thing changed
my life as I ended up being a crew chief
on the u2 he and I when I got out the
Air Force we began we worked together on
the b-1b at Rockwell International which
is a defunct company and I was gone and
and I've known this individual for a
very very long time he has been an
aerospace engineer like myself and so
earlier this year I was contacted by
this individual and he stated that he
and his wife were on their way to San
Francisco and it's up there by where
assessors where the I think the i5 goes
towards San Francisco and another
highway goes towards Stockton right
where right so what he where he was
driving in all of a sudden he said he
couldn't believe it he was shocked and
he saw that vehicle in the air moving
slowly across the windmills the the
power windmill area out there and if
anybody's ever driven out there is a
huge huge farm of gigantic windmills
that generate power for the local areas
he said he pulled over to the side of
the road and snapped that picture so
when you know and I've seen a lot of UFO
pictures as have you and usually they're
very old or they're getting very old and
there aren't a lot of new things that
you see and because this was only a few
months old they're like earlier this
year and I've known this individual from
15 years old it's so totally a saucer
yes
adds a lot of credibility he where he
was a crew chief on the b-52 so I know
he knows Errol aerospace you know I
there's no doubt in my mind he was also
responsible for some programs on the b1
so I know he wouldn't jump to conclusion
when seeing something like that or
testifying as he has and shared with me
about what he saw so he he and his wife
couldn't believe that the traffic kept
people kept going I guess when you're on
the freeway you don't look up in the sky
as often he couldn't believe that people
kept going and he said it didn't make
any sound it moves slowly over the the
the windmills and eventually into the
clouds and accelerated and moved away
now what I think is interesting about
this is that first of all that it's
current that it happened in California
which I was not too far from where I am
and that it happened not too far from
Vandenberg Vandenberg Air Force Base is
up that way and it happened around a
power source something generating power
so all of that together is something and
that's why I'm going to use the Condor
to retrace the steps of the flight
pattern of the of the UFO and if you
look at it I blew that picture up it's
quite amazing it's it is what it is you
I shout effect when I show it when I
have shown it to very few people and you
and that means very few I can count them
on two fingers I don't have to tell them
what it is
you guys look at it no of course not all
right all right that's going to get
people really frantic trying to get to
the right place on the website but it is
a recent saucer photograph and that's
it's framed by these wind Jenny's these
monster wind Jenny's in California so
you can decide its size for yourself
which can't know exactly the distance
from that object but that's a good you
know it's a very good photograph you are
on the air with dr. Albert Taylor hello
thank you
I tried to have you back on I just
wanted to ask in all the astral travels
that you did or out of these experiences
did you ever have a encounter with your
mother ever year yes and I have several
times so I don't yeah I don't really
want to go into too much detail that
extremely emotional I but yes and I was
once I was wondering if that was going
to happen because I have out-of-body
experiences and definitely it definitely
did but it helped me with the healing
process awesome
totally awesome thank you very much
thank you let me ask this can you it's a
sensitive question I mean if you wanted
to are you now to the point dr. Taylor
where you can actually cause yourself to
go to a specific purpose in other words
if you want to meet your mother you you
can somehow do it well one of the things
I learned a long time ago is that I can
go anywhere or interact with almost
anyone if I have an emotional contact
connect connection with them so because
of my connection with my mother
definitely to go visit the Bahamas
probably not because I you don't sell
the things you don't care about unless
you have some emotional connection so
definitely with my deceased
loved ones I have had they came to me
first I didn't believe in them they came
to me first but definitely capable of
interacting with the deceased loved ones
I would like that I would like to ask
this doctor teller what do you now
understand about the nature of death
well it's you know does that I've been
thinking about this a long time and you
know you know and we've talked we
discussed this on many occasions and as
the more I look into it the more
experiment experiences I have astrally
or out-of-body the more questions I have
I have one of the things that I truly
have discovered and accept and
understand is that we go on forever
we have existed long before this planet
existed and we will exist long
thereafter and you got to think about
this is that in the paranormal community
and metaphysic immunities generally when
I first started in looking into this and
trying to discover what was happening to
me
most people were only looking into the
last hundred to two hundred to five
hundred years of human existence trying
to answer the question of what is the
paranormal and what our ghosts and that
didn't make any sense to me it didn't
make any sense to me because of the
nature of the planet Earth the planet
Earth has been here for what three point
five billion years approximately the the
universe has been here for thirteen
point five billion years approximately
now what's interesting is that and
before Earth you know little things like
for instance gold gold everybody has
gold but do you ever think about where
gold comes from Gold was not made on
earth it was not it didn't originate in
earth it was created in the last last
dying throes of a star of exploding star
a star that went supernova so before
earth was here there were molecules that
ended up forming the earth and then
eventually the scientists talked about
amino acids that pulled in a pool
somewhere
that collided into each other and
eventually somehow the spark of life
started in and then evolved to
eventually humanoid people like us but
you got to think about that okay that's
one physical mechanical aspect of human
igniting in nature of human existence
but what if we exist outside of the body
through the audible experiences and all
the near death across testimonials and
and because of the reincarnation
experiences memories that I eventually
started having - so we existed prior to
us being here now and the earth didn't
exist until it formed 3.5 billion years
ago then we existed a lot longer than
that and we came to this planet
- in herre or two in in to influence or
to encode to be incorporated or to what
is the word I'm trying to to merge with
a humanoid organism of some sort to have
an earthly experience here of
approximately 80 years and then move on
so if we've existed before the earth
then why did we come here and what is
really going on during the earth life
experience all right all right
me let me ask this I can't think of any
other way to put it with your
understanding of the nature of death or
life after death or in existence after
death would you agree or not that we
continue to have a contemporary
consciousness after death definitely
definitely and the reason for that is
not only from my personal experiences as
far as out-of-body experiences but in my
paranormal investigative experiences
where I can get something that is
non-physical to interact with me and
actually answer questions so definitely
we do at what state we do I'm really
puzzled and trying to understand because
sometimes when you collect EVPs and
you've heard them they make no sense
that sounds like you know that's right
gibberish chatter yeah but
go ahead finish but there are some rare
occasions where you have you collect an
EVP that is not played like a recording
but is actually responding to a question
that you asked and that that right there
is enough should be enough to make you
curious about what is going to happen to
you athlete's ass and will you do that
I agree the people who do EVPs all the
time say it's very rare a contemporary
response and then and perhaps even a
conversation is extremely rare but it
does happen all right back to the phones
you're on the air with dr. Taylor hi
hello art don't you hear me just fine
yeah all right this is Bill in the high
desert in Southern California I have a
question for dr. Taylor Taylor please hi
Bill go ahead
yes dr. Taylor I think I taught you in
the past when you're on our show before
any other question about a statement you
made you talked about negative or you
talked about ions giving you a cold
feeling in a one of your tests and the
thing is negative ion generators are
quite popular as air purifiers they
purify the air down to point something
microns and I have them in every room in
my house but I don't get any cold
feeling on them are they neck just
negative ions or do they I don't think
ions or positive are they well there
there are negative and positive ions and
that still research that we're still
conducting to because we have to have an
individual set up a situation and then
maybe use something like a Van de Graaff
generator or something like that to try
to stir up the ions in the area and see
which ions would affect the individual
so but this is just a report that I've
gotten from people that are talking
about that is because what I notice is
that when a person on my team has said
they feel cold and when I use the laser
temperature sensor it's not there's no
there's no physical temperature
difference so that's where we have to
look into other types of molecules ions
and things like that that are in our
atmosphere that may be affected by the
paranormal currents and then see if that
has anything to do with it so it's still
an area of study and we're still trying
to figure
and understand it yeah thank you yeah I
wondered about that because I thought it
filthy cold this out of my ion
generators I and I'm thinking damn the
ghosts are staying away from me or what
enough the thing about why do you want
to address one more thing the thing
about feeling cold
it doesn't none of these little
indicators or fleuret flags happen all
the time in every situation you may have
a situation where the the the feeling of
cold exists and then it may never happen
again
so just it's just like if I'm coming
into a room I may not touch the same
object every time I may do different
things and that's what you got to think
about happens in the paranormal it's not
general a lot of times they're not gonna
be repeating the same things that they
repeat over and over again yeah I
understand it doesn't have to be
negative ions generating the cold we
could be other things too right
preciate your show I liked you before I
like you now and and I'm glad you're
back on thank you very much - my friend
take it take care I mean when I say cut
look when I say cold I mean the most
profound kind of you can't get rid of it
with hot water pouring over your head
kind of cold it was unbelievable I've
never felt anything like that in my
whole life and it didn't matter what I
did there was no way to get warm it was
it was paranormal it was so overwhelming
unless it can be explained in some kind
of shock or something I'm telling you it
was just astounding I'm alright what's
let's think about one one thing art
think about this it was designed to get
your attention if you could get in the
shower and then warm up it would be no
big deal you can forget all about it the
fact that it didn't happen that way it
was designed to get your attention and
now you're still talking about it yeah
well it sure as heck got my attention
that you're on the air with dr. Taylor
hello hello hello yes alone you know art
mega Roswell's antenna companion in my
truck for a really long time and it's
good to hear you again hey I'm curious
how did you find us here on XM Sirius XM
well I first heard you obviously on AM
radio and then I was one of the first to
get an XM radio
the reason why I chose that was I could
hear you without searching channels once
I drove away from the signal yep that's
pretty cool isn't it
it is it's amazing alright anyway go
ahead I just was curious yeah I have a
pretty basic simple question I like
tinkering with electronics not that I'm
really good at it but I can fiddle with
thanks till I blow something up a lot of
times when there's a haunting sight you
hear people talking about the the
cameras battery with it
and there comes like that obviously that
does affect your robots or Dobb that's a
very good question it hasn't yet it
could but it hasn't yet so possibly
there's something about the power source
or the design of your robots that is not
affected that the way a camera would be
well like I said just a few minutes ago
not everything happens every time so
because I would get battery failures in
one particular investigation I could
come back the next day and they wouldn't
happen so so far because I have two
power sources that it has a battery and
it also charges via solar panel so far
the two of those have kept it the charge
at peak but you never know it could
happen all right
thank you very much you know a lot of
times in paranormal stories that we've
seen there are reports of very large
electromagnetic fields associated with
an appearance or with happening of some
kind or another and one can imagine that
it would affect batteries or things
electronics so I would think that would
be a concern have you had any instances
where it did affect your robots no not
so far I've had it affected cameras my
EMF meter's things like that but to date
I have never had a robot failed during
an investigation so far one of the
things that I do is like I said my
camera head doesn't have a backup power
source and my robots do so it you know I
I don't know it I'm not going to say
it couldn't happen I can just say that I
don't worry about it because eight out
of ten times it hasn't happened so it's
not something I would think that has a
high probability of occurring you know
it's a good thing that you put these
photographs up here because if you had
described what you have in photographs
up here frankly I wouldn't have believed
you you know I mean these are just
amazing you're on the air with dr.
Albert Taylor hello hello seeing is
believing art you know we have someone
on the line they're not talking hello
Wow yes Wow yes can you hear me we hear
you all right I had an experience about
four years ago this past September 23rd
I had a heart attack and I was luckily I
lived nine minutes from one of the two
chopper hospitals in the United States
they took me straight there and I had a
96 percent blockage and I remember being
on the gurney go into the operating room
for to operate and that's the last I
remember there and so I remember all
sudden it going from a darkness to
almost like the Sun coming up in the
morning getting bright light and just
continually getting why and then I saw
these like oblong white syndra cold
deals that were like cleaning up and I
heard three voices and I distinctively
knew all three voices one was my father
who died in 1985 my adopt my adopted
father that raised me I was adopted when
I was a year and a half old so he was
the only father I knew to the second
voice I heard was the minister from the
Christian Church where I grew up that I
was we were family friends with he had
been he had died three years prior to
that the other voice I heard was a guy
who lived in California who was like my
best friend and most people thought we
were brothers who had killed himself a
year before that and they are we'll all
were telling me it's not your time
well fine stay your family need you and
the next thing I knew was it was the
next day
waking up in the hospital in the in my
room and I don't know how to accept that
well I would say face except I don't
know where these verses came from and I
bet like I said I disputed we knew all
three voices I would just accept it at
face value it is what it was those
people were there that's remarkable well
you know in our so many stories like
that is just remarkable oh it totally
isn't the thing about he said you're
having trouble processing it one of the
things I can see like I want to tell you
and share with you is that first of all
realize that you are not alone you this
isn't just happen to you so you're in no
way a victim or anything negative in any
way shape or form there is eight like I
mentioned earlier eight million people
in the United States alone who have had
near-death experiences and throughout
every state there are groups of people
who band together to support each other
because they have no one else to talk to
no one else can understand or realize
exactly what you've seen and what you've
experienced and the lasting emotional
impact it has had on you so one of the
things I do suggest is that if you're
open to it is to seek out one of these
groups and the International Association
of near-death studies ions is one of
them there are probably others to seek
out one of these groups and share your
story and p-n what happened what will
happen is as you listen to the stories
of the other individuals who had
experiences they will start filling in
the pieces of the puzzles to your own
story and your own experience so that is
one of the things I think is very very
important is to seek some type of a
support group all right we're gonna take
a break here I think it would change
your life so profoundly to have such an
experience and your life from that
moment on once you're not seen the other
side once you really knew that the other
side was real there would be such a
profound change in the way you would
live your life the way you
look at your own mortality the way you'd
look at the world all of it would change
this is dark matter
I'm art Bell it's exam baby and we're
very serious to call art Bell please
manipulate your communication device and
call one eight five five real UFO that's
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Keith Roland my webmaster my diligent
webmaster he's working on it and it is
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easy for everybody because there's so
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people on iPads and these kinds of pads
and those pads and computers and cell
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but he's working on it so it's not like
we don't hear you those of you
complaining it's hard to find dr. Taylor
it's hard to find the photographs trust
me we feel you we're working on it dr.
Taylor welcome back thank you very much
a lot of people want to talk to you
you're on the air with dr. Taylor hi hi
hi
finds her out of curiosity where are you
I'm in Toronto Canada Toronto Canada and
how did you find us
well I listened to your show before dark
matter okay
George mentioned that you're actually
having a new show on so I went to your
website and I found out that you were on
Sirius XM and I signed up thank you
George
all right all right so what do you have
for dr. Cameron I have two questions
actually
the first one is regarding those robots
is building mmm to make all these
measurements for paranormal activity
so it's so close and so on and and the
Mars rover all these robots they're
great they make a make measurement
I think the you're missing out on the
human factor like subjective versus
objective observations because you
mentioned that when you went into the
room you had cramps or our Earth's
experience with the with the coldness
you don't get that from the robot don't
get that from the measurement to
themselves so do you work in conjunction
with the robot or you just rely on
robots for the measurements or the
robots are just another tool so
definitely I have a team on humans
organics carbon life-forms that that
basically they do the investigation to
their limitations and then beyond the
limitations the robots can take over
alright look I've got something I want
to add here does that answer your
question sir yes okay here it is look it
may well be that if there had been a
robot anywhere near me in my house when
I experienced all of this the robot may
not have detected or may have detected
something I don't know but I know that
it's I have to consider it within reason
that I was totally in some state of
shock that I was unable to recover from
no matter what and it was not paranormal
at all I absolutely consider that so for
that reason I can see why having both as
you put it carbon-based life-forms and
robots present is really a gigantic
advantage well think about it if you're
going to go let's say visit Egypt okay
you're going to take as many cameras and
recording devices as you possibly can to
try to capture the moment because you
don't know when you'll be back the same
thing with the paranormal
you'd it's a if you don't do that the
chances of you retrieving data becomes
less and less and less and can even
become a wasted trip so to try to avoid
that what I notice is that I we humans
are limited and that there was a big
window of time that I wanted to collect
data during that I wasn't capable of
that the
at a tool of an autonomous robot an
autonomous is important because I mean I
may be asleep and it may need to act on
its own the incorporation of an
autonomous robot
open that time on station to 24 hours so
I have 24 hours of recording where I may
have only had 4 hours oh no it so makes
sense here's a message that comes from
the wormhole dr. Taylor if you're
Bigfoot robot falls over or has a
problem in the forest does it send out a
radio distress locator signal or does it
just start screaming it's not it's not
bipedal it doesn't walk on two legs it
is as a try try type of tripod gear so
it set up so it can't tip over and even
if it tips over you can flip it
completely upside down in and it could
still run upside down so the thing about
the you design the bot to survive the
environment and you try to take into
consideration everything it could
possibly run into and you know you can
only go so far but you try to design
that into it and so far the bot is
capable of climbing over fallen trees in
case it runs it can go up on that if it
runs into shallow ponds it the its
suspended high enough above the ground
that the electronics doesn't get wet and
it's it's waterproof so it's capable of
enduring rain star storms and things
like that so these are the things that
have incorporated into the design that
all might all my robots they they all
can't do the same job so some of them I
have no other robot that it will be
capable of doing that except for the one
that I'm working on now the other robots
are like indoor robots or something like
that so hopefully I will as an engineer
which you know I think if it's good
enough for NASA it might be good enough
for paranormal investigation hopefully
as an engineer I've thought about a lot
of things and I've designed it to the
best of my ability to perform a
outstanding job you know what your
robots are so good that I think the
Defense Intelligence people are live
to come back and see you again so then
you'll be full circle huh I I don't mind
being involved in in the Department of
Defense to some degree I left that area
because I didn't want to be involved in
the weapons aspect of things but as far
as information I'm more than happy to
get involved in that based on my past
experience and my current experience
okay hello there you're on the air with
dr. Taylor Taylor our first that is good
to have you back I am driving a late at
night out here in North Dakota Bakken
oil fields and it definitely helps keep
me awake well so are you wanted like a
truck hauling oil things out here I flew
is now I actually just hauled tools out
to the rig sites and you know back and
forth between the rig sites and vendors
can I ask you one quick question yes
they're saying that that North Dakota
oil may be as big as what's in you know
Saudi Arabia is that true what I keep
reading in the local local papers are
that it just keeps yeah keeps on coming
keeps on coming as a matter of fact a
little segue I was up in Canada here a
few weeks ago and I talked an oil guy
who is up there and the Adams and oil
fields that they're you know I'm talking
about the oil sands and he says they've
got a 150 years worth of oil up there
too and I you know I don't know if he
meant worldwide demand or what but there
is a tremendous a lot of amount of oil
and I guess if I could plug the the oil
field out here there are a lot of jobs
they pay well and I know the country is
hurting there's nothing to come out here
and make 60 to 100,000 but you have to
have your housing in place oh all right
I don't want to take dr. Taylor's time
but I did we'll talk more about that you
mentioned earlier when you mentioned the
out-of-body experience it kind of
reminded me of when I was a teenager my
uncle was starting to get into I think
he called it ESP and I just remember a
story he had mentioned one time where he
was sitting relaxing trying to relax
trying to
get into I suppose this meditative state
you were speaking up and he said he was
home alone sitting in his chair and he
was thinking geez I would like to be in
bed and so he got up out of his chair
and walked into his bedroom and then got
the hell scared of him because he said
he saw himself laying in bed right all
sudden this figure just you know and it
shocked him and also his figure rose out
of bed and he said it's just like
somebody hit him with a full body slam
and it surprised them but I just wanted
your comments on that just because they
had lost so many years when you bring up
this kind of reminded me of him
describing that I don't know if he
pursued it anything in any further after
that but anyhow I just really relate
that story to you and let you comment on
that well that's an awesome story and
it's uh I I hate to say the use of the
term atypical but a lot of people that
when I mentioned earlier even through
the death process and the out-of-body
experience process when you once you
find yourself out of your body
it doesn't feel all that abnormal as a
matter of fact it feels very normal so
the fact that he rose from his body and
was walking around thinking that he was
physical makes a lot of good sense
because you don't know until you try to
do something that the physical body
can't do like fly or move through a wall
or something like that so there's been
and that's a wonderful indication that
you're having out of my experiences I
tell people if you wake up twice if you
wake up once and you think you're
awakened then you realize you weren't
and you wake up again that's a great
indication that you're capable of having
out of by experiences and you should
explore it to the fullest so dr. Taylor
after I pass my back is going to be
better yeah yeah you know what your back
is going to be I'd say better than
better it's going to be non-existent I'm
not sure I was driving for non-existent
well that brings up well it brings up a
good point when you die like you're
gonna know the answer in all this but
hey you know I want to ask at least we
well as we're living now we have a sense
of our body and I'm not speaking of my
bad back now but you know
have a sense of ourselves the physical
sense of ourselves so is that gone right
away or does it sort of fade away after
one passes or do you immediately go to a
mental existence only well one of the
things that's interesting about that is
that everyone I've ever spoken to even
the elderly that have had near-death
experiences and and even the young I've
heard children talk about their
near-death experiences is the one thing
that it seems to be common is that there
is a mid state of Aging maybe around 30
to 40 where we always stay you no matter
what your physical condition is and what
I mean by that is if you let's say you
had a physical abnormality that caused
you to be very aware of it 100% of the
time while you were awake
well when you're laying down in your bed
and your sleep or half asleep all that
seems to slip away and that state of
consciousness that you're aware of they
used to talk to my mom about this
because she was like she's a 90 she said
I'm 90 but I feel like I'm in my 40s
well one of the bats that that state is
permanent the seems to be fairly
permanent in paranormal experiences
given without out-of-body experiences
and with people who have transitioned
and passed on they and even when you
have parting visions where you see a
deceased loved one generally they're in
the best health of their life they look
younger and they may have been in a
wheelchair or something like that but
they've appeared to you on how they
perceive themselves so you don't get so
damaged in life where you perceive
yourself to be this physically crippled
person you don't that doesn't stay with
you what stays with you is that around
that 40 year old kind of the best time
of your life where you were the best
that you ever was where that is the case
then if you appear to a mere mortal do
you appear to be younger
and healthier or or or do you appear
still in the wheelchair for their
recognition I mean if somebody is
suddenly 30 years old who was 90 you
might not even recognize them from all
the reports that I've had not one person
and then may there may be somebody out
there because it's not absolute but I'd
say 98% of the reports that I've gotten
have talked about a person being younger
they were known longer limped they no
longer were in a wheelchair there were
no longer handicapped they they didn't
take that physical abnormality to the
other side with them okay all right
answers that and you're on the air with
dr. Taylor hi yes - back on yes sir
thank you all on four so I couldn't
listen to sports anymore okay it's gonna
have to be because we don't have a very
good connection here you're kind of
cutting out but go ahead yeah I got it
you said is it possible for something
demonic to occupy your or affect your
astral body or your body while you're
out of out of body and this is this is
the thing that I realized is that only
in my school Catholic school and in the
physical world did I have something that
even reference demonic so far and if it
were if it existed and if I encountered
it I would report it because it's not
about what I want it's about what I've
experienced so far since I figured out
what is going on and I've actively
pursued it and had numerous numerous
numerous out-of-body experiences I have
never encountered something that I would
call demonic I have two encountered
negative
in entities that will play games with
you but nothing that you would call
demonic because I don't that that's kind
of a religious belief system term but I
have not encountered anything that that
is like that
in your view is there a heaven is there
a hell heaven if you want to call it
heaven I'd say yes meaning there is a
place where we go that is better than
this that is we return to that is
amazing that we will see deceased
relatives that type of thing if you want
to call that heaven yes there is a
location like that hello dogs and dogs
and cats get along and congressmen agree
on everything and well the dogs and cats
do but the congressman does get along
but the congressman doubts you're on the
air with dr. Taylor hello hey thanks art
always a pleasure
dr. Taylor I'm gonna try and phrase this
this right because it's a question
that's been bugging me I think you can
handle now I'm a person who can't say
that I I can't say oh I'm such an such a
day I experienced an out-of-body
experience and here's what happened I
also won't tell you that I've never had
one I think sometimes the boundary
between dreaming and out of and an
out-of-body experience may be a little
bit fuzzy that being said here's here's
my question with respect to lucidity I
have had the experience and it bugs the
heck out of me hundreds thousands of
times where I come to the point of
lucidity and I'm able to have that
control for what's probably a split
second it seems like a minute or two and
then all of a sudden it disappears and I
wake up I can't maintain that control is
there something wrong with me or what is
it that I'm experiencing okay first of
all there's nothing wrong with you what
happens during that process especially
the more lucid you are the more excited
you get because it's an exciting thing
and that's hard to to suppress
excitement can bring you out of it
the intense emotions period even fear
can bring you out of the experience so
what is needed or I think that you need
I suggest is the more you experience it
it still becomes exciting but you have
more control over your emotions in your
body and are allowed to experience the
the phenomenon longer so don't don't let
it discourage you the fact that you even
get close is an awesome thing it just
takes practice to calm down the body so
that you can last longer but the only
thing I would question is this has
happened to me literally hundreds of
times you would think I'd be getting
better at it is it that I'm not focusing
on that well it I don't know exactly
what you've studied as far as improving
on yourself and your techniques but if
you haven't done anything you can't
really expect any kind of different
result so it's important to learn about
what other people have done prior to you
don't have to reinvent the wheel on this
there's a lot I just happen to be one of
them so learn what they do incorporate
some of that into your particular
lifestyle and what you do and then see
how that improves your situation it'll
repeat the same way but if you do you
learn you have better experiences thank
you very much mm-hmm well thank you and
that makes good sense to me in other
words take advantage of the years of
investigation that others have done and
I guess one good way to do that book
plug would be to get soul traveler huh
definitely that's one way what I found
is no one picked one particular way
works for everyone so it's been
important it's important I believe to
experiment and look into different types
of techniques until you find something
that works for you or that you can
modify that works for you all right
you're on the air with dr. Taylor hello
hello art yes sir hey how are you how
you doing dr. Taylor I'm doing great
thank you yeah my question is about your
robots if they ever go looking for
Bigfoot and I'm just curious if say you
have a robot in it and it comes
cause Bigfoot like the real thing and
Bigfoot gets spooked and it comes out
and it just comes up sir about and
destroys it because it scared is there
any way that you know does it transmit
video back to you and record audio is
there any way that you know that it
would capture that event or if it if
that happens there's just no chance that
you know that would ever be known well
that's that's a good question but you
got to remember at least you don't have
to remember but I'm influenced by my
experience in the space program when we
send probes to different locations they
always send that data telemetry of some
sort so that's kind of where I don't put
all my eggs in one basket and hope I
recover the robot and spend hours and
hours of it's running and investigating
in an end up with zero so everything
that it is my it is videotaping or
photographing I get back to a base
station in real-time okay so so like it
would kit would then capture at a
Bigfoot attack then yes and that's why I
was sharing with art earlier is even if
it gets destroyed it's going to be the
best 30 seconds you've ever seen in your
life yeah because I don't know if you
saw there's a picture on the website of
a like a Bigfoot face and it's just it's
incredible right yeah I figure if the
vehicle does get demolished from another
type of animal I still will know why it
happened and have captured some data the
final frames the fight the final frames
might be a giant foot coming down on it
yeah all right all tight doctor we're
going to take a break here or you don't
really matter
I miss aisle 185 five-wheel UFO that's
one eight five five seven three two five
eight three six that's the number
alright anybody remember what movie this
song was in it's an old one but it was
made popular little hand Paul Newman
hockey yeah that's right
slap shot but not too many of you got
that all right dr. Taylor a question
that comes through the wormhole I'm
curious about the design of the robot
how exactly do you construct it so that
it can traverse for example fallen trees
I'm trying to visualize this and I can't
hard to describe it but I'll try it has
let's say let's see the wheels assembly
okay it's a it's a hub assembly that
turns on two wheels
turn on an axis and the wheels have
telescoping telescoping spikes that
stick out of them that go around in 360
degrees each one of the spikes can
recoil when it approaches an object to a
certain extent to maybe four or five
inches so what that does is if the
imagine your fingers spread out of your
fingers and if your fingers come up on a
broomstick that that one finger that
hits the broomstick it's going to
retract while the other fingers continue
to move over the broomstick and then
that finger is going to extend again so
as it comes in and as this is rotating
so we have a bunch of retractable
fingers on a rotating wheel that when it
comes up to let's say a fallen log or
tree all right the parts that touch the
tree limb will retract creating some
kind of almost like a cup around the
tree and the as it keeps driving the
remaining wheels will be on either side
of the tree and push the robot over it
and then the wheels that are touching
the tree once they stop touching the
tree will extend again back to a
circular shape that's the way I can
describe it all right you're on the air
with dr. Taylor hello hello hi hi good
evening gentlemen
come on where where are you I'm curious
I am outside of Detroit Michigan okay
you know as I asked people never tell me
anything very good on it I'm on the road
quite often so it's off me stay awake at
night
well we're happy to serve my question is
in regards to communicating with those
that have passed on all right it calls
for me to grasp the how it happens is it
all right some people use a spirit box
or EB take an EVP some a little machine
other people can claim they can hear
those that have passed on through audio
through their ears but I cannot
understand how this happens when well as
a human being we listen with our ears
the speakers our vocal cords how is it
possible well one of the things I'm not
into this the spirit box that comes up
with slogans and words and the phrases
that it is supposed to be generated by
an anomaly of some sort I'm very
skeptical about that one see what what I
found is that the easiest way to collect
EVPs biet passive or interactive is
something very very simple and that
would be an analogue tape recorder now
an analog tape recorder that uses the
tape of chromium oxide tape which is
really common we don't understand how
the voice gets imprinted on the chromium
oxide tape but we know that we know that
it has nothing to do with the air moving
sound waves or sound the like for when
you speak right now you're moving air
through your lungs which is creating
sound we know that it's placed on the
chromium oxide tape and that is not
occurring so dr. Taylor let me stop you
and tell you something the people that I
deal with the do EVPs are very good
they're non-profit older people who
really do care about this work and they
have found early on they thought it had
to be tape it had to be a conventional
tape machine but they really have found
that digital does work and thank
goodness because digital is a very clear
compared to yes I have used digital
recorders
to me and this is just me the sound that
I've got and gotten from analog tape
recorders has been a little easier to
figure out versus the digital ones so
yes I've used both but I have been able
to understand what I've collected a
little better on the chromium oxide
analog tape recorder it's very
interesting very very interesting have
you done a lot of work in this area
I'd say the extensive you mean as far as
the actual mechanics of the tape or the
well you need EB oh yeah definitely
matter of fact I remember playing some
EVPs on a show you and I did where you
said I had some of the best EVPs you've
ever heard so right right definitely but
I mean this has been an ongoing
adventure with you
definitely oh definitely I just yeah
definitely matter of fact my robots
every time I go out on an investigation
that's one of the functions they perform
so they're performing multiple tasks at
the same time vision of the digital
photography still audio that type of
thing so every time I go on an
investigation I come back with probably
with recordings EVPs of some sort that
the robots or my investigators have
collected remarkable you're on the air
with dr. Taylor alone from Tennessee
thank you yes I like to talk to you for
a minute for a second or two of about
the dark and light thing if you like
talk about that I'm going to talk about
it I don't know how much light I can
show you well I can't speak on the dark
part much but I can speak a little bit
about the light thing as a young kid I
was five or five six seven years old I
don't know something like yeah
I would have these things that dr.
Taylor's talking about these are they
out-of-body experiences or it started
out as like I'd wake up I'd be asleep I
wake up and I couldn't move or seen or
anything like that
it was started it started out that way
you know it was very scary i screen or
Harper help nobody could help me because
I couldn't literally scream just like
dr. tiller right Ackley
okay I had hundreds of them when I was
younger but I guess about 10 loves about
10 or 12 years old I got comfortable
with it over the years over the last
walks over them for five years there and
and one night I want to put to bed and I
was I was kind of experimental I won't
try to think that I was literally gonna
try to say god that's what I what I was
wanting to did so I had one of these
experiences just one of these outer-body
experience to me they're more like a
very spiritual experience and I'm member
from that point when I went into that
stage you are kicking this net together
and I kind of went I got to the point
where I could go out of my body like dr.
Tyler is talking about and I remember
he's going to a place where there was
just pure energy in the light at the
time I didn't know what it was up to
young I was like I said to him 12 years
old I didn't really know what it was but
I went to a place where there it was
just pure light and the energy
yeah and I know I'll concentrate on
trying to find you know see what God who
God was and what God look like so as far
as going for the light and dark
I was just private going towards the law
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you know what I I think that I in the
end I'm gonna get so confused I'm gonna
go to the gray area me me I really truly
believe I was in the presence of God to
this day I really felt like that and
when I and I was there for a little bit
I could feel the stuff I could feel the
air even luckier you know why I can't
say with white or I can't say what the
energy was what it was just it was a big
is lucky or do you like that's this way
okay well I I interviewed a young lady
who gave me a very long and detailed
years ago description of going to the
other side and it was filled with
different rooms some with terrifying
things some wonderful things I remember
that very very vividly anyway as I said
I think dr. Taylor I'm gonna end up just
walking into the gray area well I think
first of all I have to say
congratulations to that gentleman for
having the experience because a lot of
people wish they had that experience and
and he's had one and the the way it
affects you is
found this is the thing that I try to
suggest to people when you're going to
have encounters with something on the
other side via the out-of-body
experience it's tried to suspend your
judgments and your belief system and the
things that you think you expect to see
because that can contaminate the entire
experience where you won't have a really
pure experience so just don't try to
guess
don't try to predict or anything like
that and just observe what's happening
and so call that in and you'll find that
you're gonna get an experience that's
going to be beyond on anything anything
anybody has ever told you that's good
advice all right you're on the air with
dr. Taylor thank you for waiting
Thank You art good morning good morning
first sight the Keith the website great
know what two art parts earlier and have
a coffee mug that should be here on
Friday alright this one has my signature
on it remember that yes sir
you guys have almost covered both of the
questions and the caller just before was
touching all around it
not goodbye I'm just kidding go ahead my
first question was the age bill we won't
even go there the second one there's a
scripture in current Ian's about when
you're absent from the body you're
present with the Lord
with God and he was touching on that and
I wanted to get dr. Taylor's thoughts on
that as well
and okay well one of the things I don't
do is I don't comment on somebody's
religion or a belief system but I can
tell you this no matter what you believe
and hopefully you believe in something
it is a spiritual experience it's fun
and games in the beginning and it's fun
even after the beginning but it all
leads to spiritual awakening of the
individual having the experience and in
so far and everyone that I've myself
included and everyone I've talked to all
over the world it's definitely improved
their lives and has been a benefit to
their lives so
that that's what I can share with you
all right you're on the air with dr.
Taylor
new art and art Taylor this is rusty
from Michigan you know yeah that Taylor
I bought your book I guess it was 5
years ago something like that and you
have kind of had some steps outlined in
there mm-hmm and I like can asked us
astral travel you know on its own but I
can't do that will and man I've tried
ride guide and I got so sick of trying
almost stopped yeah I just can't seem to
get there you have an astral flat tire
yes well let me share some things that
can slow you down so to speak if you
have a lot of stress in your life or
stressful job that can do it stressful
home life that can do it
a lot of situations in your life that
cause anger that can do it
so sometimes and because the key to
having an altered state of consciousness
or I'll just say it experience because
that's what this is is relaxation the
body harbors or stores tension from
previous periences
that's why they call we have
post-traumatic stress syndrome a lot of
people suffer through so it takes
practice instead of trying to accomplish
the end result which is having the outer
body experience practice on the
relaxation and the takeoff part and get
that really well tuned and then what
comes after that will get a lot easier
when you get there to the astral travel
is there a lot of my problem I know is
because I have a lot of physical pain I
have a disability but do people get
you're going there it has to happen I've
known a woman that who is had oh she was
diagnosed with cancer and was told that
she had about a year or two to live and
that was 15 years ago and she's in
remission this is and she attributes it
to astral travel
she had a near-death experience a
near-death which is which in a
near-death experience is a form of
out-of-body experience or ass
Travel it is this one is controlled one
isn't
but the thing this is the thing now
think about this let me try to put it
into a little tiny area that makes a lot
of sense if you know let's not think
about the healing aspect let's think
about the sick aspect I'm making you
sick we know we know that if you worry
about something right now
your consciousness can cause ulcers can
cause your stomach to have it yet you
have ulcers if your consciousness can
damage your body people who have during
earthquakes people because of the fear
not because of the physical danger
people because of the fear have had
heart attacks so we know that your
consciousness can cause negative things
well why wouldn't your consciousness be
able to cause positive things also
depending on your frame of mind it has
an effect on the body negatively when
you worry wouldn't it have an effect do
you think there would be some kind of
effect on the positive side if you
weren't worried then you use positive
energy so that's kind of how you have to
look at it there's really a yin and yang
to this but most people if you're not
aware of the positive we all too often
focus on the negative totally makes
sense to me you're on the air with dr.
Taylor hello hello there I know you're
there hello hi yes yeah the question I
had I had up I think it's at least three
or four out-of-body experiences when I
was 18 that's 28 years ago and your
guests just mentioned stress could bring
it on
well actually I think the opposite
stress could well would probably prevent
it well there are some case it depends
on the situation stress can like abuse
physical abuse has been reported to
launch people and nodded by experiences
but stress can also prevent it from
happening yeah I can see that in other
words you'd want to escape you'd want to
be away and that that would be the will
that would carry you alright yeah these
particular experiences I would I would
be above my body looking down on it and
I
I was so scared because I couldn't move
my body at all but I was looking down on
I think the the fear is what kept on
bringing me back out into my body and I
think if I would have been able to just
relax and let go I could have actually
gone where I was supposed to go is that
correct definitely and and fear think
about how fear has served us as far as
the species on this planet fear has has
had a vital and important part of our
awareness because it saved our lives
in a lot of cases when we were when we
were wandering through the forests and
jungles and you hear a twig snap behind
you that fear told you that it could be
a predator and that you need to find
some shelter or cover well the fear has
worked really fine for a long long time
but now because we're in a different
area and we're talking about spiritual
and all that the fear is still there but
it's not it's not preventing or saving
you from anything it's kind of automatic
so now it's going to take a conscious
effort on your part or anybody's part to
overcome the fear because it's it
happens before we can think it usually
kicks in before you can think rationally
about something that's why if there's a
loud noise cats usually jump up and run
out of room before they even know what's
wrong so that takes a conscious effort
on your part and practice to overcome
that natural instinct that fear have
that hair-trigger and to overcome it and
suppress it but I can tell you this it
definitely is possible and the more you
practice the better you become at it
well yeah I hope I get another chance to
are useless to crispr cross failing
right before I fell asleep and that
seemed to bring it on and I'll let's try
that mm-hmm whatever works you caught me
off guard like I said I watched a mega
Roswell and it's a pleasure thank you
very much and take care let's go here
and say hello you're on with dr. Taylor
thank you pretty good I'm just love my
wife and I were listening and when
dr. Chandler was talking about the
out-of-body experiences initial
experience I guess would be internalized
seeing figure in the room can't move and
all that stuff
both of us had to have that have had
that exact same experience and just
really gave us both goosebumps and now
let's like to explore more astral travel
and just wanted to work it starting off
point with B well first of all let me
say congratulations because if you
experience the paralysis a lot of the
hard part is done and that's an
indication that you're definitely
capable of having experiences far beyond
the body so congratulations on that I
read up you read up on it as much as you
possibly can practice different
relaxation techniques don't get stuck on
any particular one find something that
works for you it may not work for your
wife hers may be different but find
something doctor let's try this if
you're if you're laying in bed and you
feel that you're paralyzed right now
tell everybody what is the next step
what do you do once you realize you're
paralyzed instead of panicking like I
know I would what what do you do next to
actually exit your body well the first
thing you have to do is take control of
the experience because if you don't take
control of the experience you're going
to be a passenger and that means all
kinds of weird stuff that's going to
happen and it up into up into including
bouncing off the walls uncontrollably
which will scare you though the first
thing everything you had almost I'd say
90% of everything that happens to you in
the out-of-body experiences because you
will it to happen so if you want to be
able to see that's the first thing you
want to do is you want to be able to see
your environment the room so will your
you you say I want to see and so then it
sounds simple but that's kind of how it
works next thing you want to do is if
you're completely paralyzed past the
vibration stage the next thing the only
thing that's waiting for you to do is
make a command because you're sitting
there disconnected all you have to do is
give the command to lift off so you want
to say I want to float upward
and you will begin to move upward
anything you want to do I want to walk
on the ground I'll walk on the carpet
because it's not about when you know if
you think about touching things you're
your commanding muscles but this is all
about consciousness there's not muscle
being commanded this is about
consciousness so you have to think it
into happening and 90% of the time the
astral body because that's what you're
going to be in initially will respond to
your thoughts I think that would have
helped a lot of people hi there you're
on air with dr. Taylor hello hello we do
hear you yes definitely yes I've been
listening now for a couple of weeks I
heard you guys as a radio promo when I
got my style radio and you guys are
you're kind of I guess we could say
you're a new Sirius XM listener I'm a
new serious XM listen I'm new to
listening to these episodes period I
grew up in a really diverse child
upbringing I guess my mom as a
practicing pagan I said that practicing
Native American beliefs different things
I had one of these out-of-body
experiences one time on a guided
meditation that my mom brought me to and
it was ever since and it's always been
stuck in my head I have dreams about it
what it was is this lady you know she
started the guys meditation and I walked
down a long corridor I like was full of
doors kind of and at the end there was a
one door and the door had like coming
out for anything this and when I got to
the door I went inside and when I when I
came inside there was just a flat like
almost like an altar type thing with a
book on it and you know when I open this
book it was it was my life I'm in my
crown it is when you when you're talking
about like the spirits there whatever
wouldn't you when you leave this world
when you die or whatever is there a way
can some of them be chosen to come back
into this life and in another form or
even the same form oppression AIA color
I want to ask you you you said you saw a
book with your lives you mean previous
lives previous life like I've had dreams
of like ancient Egyptian time
where I was like it felt so real like I
was there when they were building the
pyramids like I try to explain to people
like I different times like I don't know
like and ever since then I've had my
dreams are so vivid with different time
periods and when I research it they're
almost you know almost exactly realistic
compared to what people theorize these
time periods look like oh that's really
cool dr. Taylor
what about it there's something called
the Kasich records Kasich records and a
lot of people have reported going into a
area room or through a doorway and
finding a book with all kinds of
information about your past lives and
your future now you got to think about
this is that it's really not a book and
there's really not a room but that's the
way it's designed so you can understand
what's going on so some people may view
it as a screen a television screen where
it replays their life over some people
may understand it as a book and it
really doesn't matter because they're
rose by any other name still is the same
it's counted on TV I want 20 Williams
round sound and the show please call 185
real UFO that's one eight five five
seven three two five eight three six
listen everybody maybe you could do me a
favor it's obvious to me just on the
call volume and you know there's a
zillion of you out there but I wonder
how you got here ah I know it's a
strange request but if you get an extra
moment jot me an email and let me know
how you found us did you just stumble
into us did you hear about us somewhere
how did you find us
I am art fell at art Balcom that's the
address email address art bell at r-fl
comm love to know how you found us I
mean here we are up on satellite radio
and here you are and hello you're on the
air with dr. Albert Taylor Thank You art
and dr. Taylor I became a fan of yours
since I heard an art bell program late
last
shuri Wow thanks a lot yeah I think you
said something like life without
reincarnation is like a play with just
one act there's not enough time for
character development that was very yes
Wow
thank you thank you yes I did say that
well it sort of seems like the earth is
a freewill school for junior creators
and by your beliefs
so you'll manifest that's what I'm
getting from you mm-hmm and well I'll go
ahead no go ahead all right yeah and the
word ion's when you talked about that at
the movement of these charged atoms and
stuff or grouping people think of
movement they normally think of friction
causing heat yet art explained you felt
cold so how does this ion situation work
with the ghostly manifestation where it
actually cools the air or is feeling of
it well it's not a physical cooling
meaning the temperature doesn't drop
it's a sensation kind of like when you
put hot sauce in your mouth the hot
sauce is not hot but you break out in a
sweat anyway it's it's it's a reaction
to it so it doesn't mean that yeah
there's a temperature difference it
means that that's how your body is
trying to interpret this outside
stimulus okay I wanted to also comment
about your robotic search for Bigfoot I
don't know if it was artists years ago I
heard a Bigfoot researchers say
something about wearing metal and that
Bigfoot Sasquatch has an inborn radar
toward anything metal so that might sort
of hinder your success rate well I don't
know that for sure if that is something
that is a fact then I will discover that
but so far I don't think anybody has
been able to develop or document any
kind of pattern that's reliable thus far
otherwise I think they probably would
have found them by now so that's
something I'll take into consideration
but unless it manifests and I probably
won't deal with
well the robot though is a superb idea
you're not going to know until you know
but anything that can stand watch
without moving and then take pictures
360 degrees instantly has got a pretty
good shot of finding something better
than a person now in the middle of the
woods with a camera well we use it to
explore the universe
I don't see why and we use it to explore
the ocean yes make marks perfectly good
sense that we'll use it to explore the
the forest and also even possibly look
for Nessie sonic sensing no I'm so
totally with you it's a great great
great idea let's go here you're on the
air with dr. Taylor hi hey are you yeah
I have you Roswell Roswell Steve calling
from Yuma Arizona west of the Rockies
thank you and actually dr. Taylor good
evening good evening my question is is
I'm fascinated with the robots just
absolutely fascinated me if you have you
have a ton of uses for yours what else
can you do with them I mean to be blunt
you know if I had one out here in Yuma
Arizona I don't know I'd have them bring
me a cold beer or something in the sea
or mow my yard or cheese I don't know
bake me a pie or something what else can
you do with them well I always look at
it this way and I feel you know a lot of
times people build robots and they don't
exactly have a purpose for them they're
cool things to look at and they do
things but there's really no job for
them so what my background is that I
develop a requirements that's how I kind
of work and I build and design the robot
to fulfill the requirement so if they're
and usually the requirement comes from a
need of some sort you know necessity is
the mother of endeavor
so if I have I come up into a situation
depending on the investigative situation
if I can't because the robot it doesn't
always already have that capability I'm
going to design into a new bot all the
things that it needs to do to accomplish
what I wanted to do so that's
how it works so basically to answer your
question you they can do anything your
imagination can come up with
it's just that do you have a really a
need to accomplish that task well or put
more succinctly in this case robots for
the paranormal make all kinds of sense
when you think about it they're patient
they're not going to fidget around
they're going to get the picture when it
comes time to get the picture in other
words for this purpose these robots are
ideal wouldn't you think caller
absolutely absolutely but I would also
like to you know maybe have them take my
wife out shopping or something you know
you know find something fun to do around
here but hey thank you very much
I really appreciate it okay welcome the
Oscar program the Oscar robot is capable
of holding a kite will be eventually
it's capable of holding it will be
capable holding conversations and
interacting with very quickly you're on
the air with dr. Taylor hello hello
hello
alright I guess we have very little time
sir go ahead okay I'm Little Rock
Arkansas
I'm actually a paranormal investigator
and I was wondering about the artist
that he what he said about the artist
because there was a time when we was
doing an investigation where we actually
got temperature change while I was being
touched and it was a cold spot so I was
kind of wondering I mean has he anything
like that happened to him because you
know it happened on more than one
occasion but at the same time on a
millimeter we had a 10 degree drop and
drop on our digital thermometer while I
would see a touch at the same time okay
I have you detected anything like that
yet dr. Taylor oh yes
the the sense of cold is not strictly
ions definitely I've measured
temperature drops but I generally if
they don't drop them or rise or dropping
more than timkin degrees I don't pay
attention to it but yes it definitely
definitely it happened okay see here my
friend our program is over we have no
more time I want to thank you so very
much for being here and of course we
will have you
back I mean the road you're going down
now is really fascinating so I think
it's pretty exciting thank you very very
much it's been a pleasure to be with you
again good night my friend
