NOT SURE IF SHE WAS AT THAT 
MARCH.
I'M GONNA ASK HER, TANYA, 
CAMPAIGN LIFE COALITION.
WERE YOU THERE?
>> I WAS.
I WAS THERE WITH MY WHOLE 
FAMILY.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE, 10,000?
>> TRY 25, ABOUT 25,000.
>> Michael: IT GOT SO LITTLE 
COVERAGE IN MEDIA.
>> IT RECEIVED MORE COVERAGE 
THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
WHEN YOU HAVE INTERNATIONAL 
NEWS AGENCIES COMING TO COVER 
THIS AND YOUR OWN LOCAL 
AGENCIES IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD 
WON'T COVER THIS MARCH, IT'S 
THE HUGEST MARCH, THE HUGEST 
RALLY THAT HAPPENS ON 
PARLIAMENT HILL.
>> Michael: YOU PROBABLY KNOW 
THIS, THAT UNTIL THE MILLION 
MAN MARCH IN WASHINGTON, THE 
LARGEST GATHERING OF PEOPLE IN 
WASHINGTON D.C., THE CAPITOL OF
THE MOST POWERFUL, SIGNIFICANT 
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WAS THE 
PRO-LIFE MARCH.
AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND 
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
THERE.
THE WASHINGTON POST DIDN'T EVEN
MENTION IT HAD OCCURRED.
>> YEAH, THAT'S JUST DISGUSTING
TO HEAR THAT.
AGAIN, YOU MENTION FREEDOM OF 
SPEECH, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, 
THAT'S THE CRUX OF THIS MATTER 
HERE.
AT LEAST GET THE INFORMATION, 
THE VOICES OUT SO THAT PEOPLE 
CAN CHANGE THEIR HEARTS AND 
MINDS AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT 
THIS MATTER.
THAT UNBORN CHILDREN DESERVE 
PROTECTION IN LAW.
>> LATER ON IN THE SHOW WE'RE 
TALKING TO AN AMERICAN 
ACTIVIST.
BUT CAMPAIGN LIFE, IT'S MORE 
THAN JUST THE ABORTION ISSUE.
YOU'VE HEARD THIS MANY TIMES.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU'RE SO 
OBSESSED.
IT'S THE ONLY THING YOU TALK 
ABOUT.
I TALK ABOUT SOCCER FAR MORE 
OFTEN THAN I SPEAK ABOUT 
ABORTION.
BUT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT 
ISSUE.
BUT THERE ARE OTHERS.
THERE ARE OTHERS THAT CONCERN 
YOU.
>> THERE ARE OTHERS.
BUT AGAIN, THE CRUX OF THE 
ARGUMENT COMES DOWN TO THE FULL
AND LEGAL RECOGNITION OF HUMAN 
LIFE FROM CONCEPTION UNTIL 
DEATH.
THAT KIND OF PROTECTION NEEDS 
TO HAPPEN IN CANADIAN LAW AND 
UNTIL THAT PROTECTION IS SEEN 
AND HUMAN RIGHTS ARE FULLY 
GIVEN TO ALL CITIZENS AND ALL 
CANADIANS, THE PROTESTS WILL 
NOT STOP IN CANADA.
THAT'S HOGWASH.
THERE'S SO MANY BRANCHES OF THE
PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT THAT ARE 
HELPING TO SUPPORT WOMEN AFTER 
THEY'VE GIVEN BIRTH.
I REMEMBER EVEN AS A TEENAGER 
HAVING DRIVES TO COLLECT 
DIAPERS AND FORMULA AND ALSO 
SOME THINGS FOR MOTHERS WHO HAD
CHANGED THEIR MINDS ON ABORTING
THEIR CHILDREN AND SUPPORTING 
THEM.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALSO WHAT 
THIS, WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE 
PROGRAMMES IN THE STATE, THEY 
NEED TO HELP SUPPORT WOMEN AS 
WELL.
>> Michael: WELL, THE MOST 
FAMOUS PRO-LIFER IN THE WORLD 
IS THE POPE.
AND JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO HE 
CAME OUT WITH HIS STATEMENT, A 
VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
AND IT WASN'T INFALLIBLE, BUT 
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT STATING 
THAT THE ECONOMY HAS TO CHANGE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE
LOOKED AFTER.
THERE'S AN EQUALITY THAT THE 
POOR HAVE TO BE REGARDED WITH 
RESPECT.
HE IS THE MOST FAMOUS 
PRO-LIFER.
IN THAT SAME DOCUMENT, HE SPOKE
ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 
UNBORN.
BUT IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE WHO OH
ABORTION SAY WE DON'T CARE 
ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE, WE DON'T 
CARE ABOUT EDUCATION, ALL OF 
THOSE THINGS ARE VITAL.
ALL THE PRO-LIFERS I KNOW ARE 
VERY OPPOSED TO THE DEATH 
PENALTY, TOO.
>> IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT KIND 
OF SOCIETY DO WE HAVE IF WE ARE
BRUTALLY KILLING THE MOST 
INNOCENT MEMBERS OF OUR 
SOCIETY?
HOW CAN WE RESPONSIBLY TAKE 
CARE AND LOOK AFTER THE ONES 
WHO ARE LIVING?
WHAT KIND OF CULTURE ARE WE 
BRINGING?
THAT'S THE CULTURE OF DEATH WE 
SEE SO PERVASIVE IN CANADA.
I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC.
THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS MOTION
AND LEGISLATIVES THAT HAVE COME
THROUGH ARGUMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS MORE ENGAGED IN 
THIS ARGUMENT THAN IT HAS BEEN 
IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND I'M HOPING IN MY LIFETIME 
WE WILL SEE THIS CHANGED.
>> Michael: I'M NOT SURE IF 
THERE WAS A PURPOSEFUL 
DECISION, BUT I CAME TO CANADA 
IN 1986-1987.
I WASN'T REALLY INVOLVED IN THE
PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT IN THE U.K.
THE PRO-LIFERS I MET, HOW 
SHOULD I PUT THIS. 
THERE WERE A LOT OF OLDER 
PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T SMILE A HUGE 
AMOUNT.
NOW IT SEEMS TO BE FULL OF 
ATTRACTIVE YOUNG WOMEN WHO 
SMILED ALL THE TIME.
DID YOU SIT DOWN AND SAY, WE'VE
GOTTA CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK?
>> NO --  PROTECTION UNDER LAW 
IN CANADA.
THAT REALLY HIT A CORD.
>> Michael: WHY IS IT SO MANY 
YOUNG PEOPLE?
YOUNG WOMEN IN PARTICULAR?
IF YOU LOOK AT ANY 
DEMONSTRATION, ANY GATHERING, 
THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG WOMEN 
WHO ARE PRO-LIFE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE CASE
A GENERATION AGO.
>> TALKING ABOUT POST ABORTION 
SYNDROME AND FRIENDS AND PEERS 
OF OURS WHO HAVE HAD AN 
ABORTION, WE DON'T WANT THAT 
TRAUMA FOR OUR COUNTRY.
WE WANT TO LOOK AFTER PEOPLE 
AND SAY LET'S BE INFORMED ABOUT
YOUR CHOICE AND THINK OF WHAT 
YOU'RE DOING.
THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT 
PROBABLY FOR THE REST OF YOUR 
LIFE.
>> HOW DO YOUR FRIENDS AND 
PEERS AND CONTEMPORARIES REACT 
TO YOU AND REGARD YOU?
>> I THINK THEY KNOW THAT I 
RESEARCH ALL MY INFORMATION.
I TAKE THINGS ON A ZERO LEVEL 
AND I BUILD UP MY ARGUMENTS.
AND THEY KNOW I'M VERY 
PASSIONATE ABOUT LIFE.
THEY ALSO FEEL THAT IF THEY 
WERE EVER IN A CIRCUMSTANCE 
WHERE THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS WERE 
GONNA BE QUASHED, THEY KNOW WHO
TO CALL.
>> I TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE 
GENERATIONS THEY REPRESENT AND 
THE PEOPLE AROUND ME.
SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I THINK THAT
DEBATE IS ABSOLUTELY OVER.
YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE NEXT 
GENERATION, THEY DON'T 
UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD HAVE 
ANY OPPOSITION TO IT.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO 
DISAGREE.
BUT ON THE ABORTION ISSUE, IT'S
STILL WIDE OPEN.
LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT 
RELIGIOUS, THEY'RE NOT 
POLITICAL.
BUT THEY SAY, I'M NOT SURE BUT 
I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF
IT.
SO THIS IS AN ONGOING DEBATE.
>> OH, IT IS.
TO ME, IT'S AKIN TO THE SLAVERY
SITUATION IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT REST UNTIL
THE BLACKS WERE GIVEN FREEDOM 
AND SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED.
I WILL NOT REST AND MANY OF OUR
YOUNG PEERS IN CANADIANS WILL 
NOT REST UNTIL WE SEE THE 
ENSLAVEMENT OF THE UNBORN 
ABOLISHED.
>> I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL 
REACT TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, 
BUT I THINK YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT.
IF YOU READ THE PARLIAMENTARY 
DEBATES IN BRITAIN IN THE EARLY
19TH CENTURY, THERE ARE MANY 
PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THOSE 
WHO WANT TO ABOLISH SLAVERY.
THEY DON'T SAY SLAVERY IS A 
GOOD THING, THEY SAY IT'S NOT A
GOOD THING BUT WE HAVE TO ALLOW
IT.
IF WE DON'T, THE FRENCH WILL 
SIMPLY TAKE IT.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON FOR
IT.
AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING HOW 
THE BEGINNING THEY THOUGHT IT 
WAS BEING EXTREME IT AND THEN 
THEY BECOME MORE MODERATE AND 
WITHIN A GENERATION, THEY'RE 
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