-We're back, and I'm talking to
the one and only
Kim Kardashian West.
Thank you so much
for doing --
-Live from my mom's glam room,
'cause I had --
-From your mom's glam room.
-To keep away from my kids.
-Is that a painting behind you,
or is that a piece of art?
Is that your mom?
-That's a TV, and I don't know.
It looks like a kettle,
and it's just so bizarre,
and then I --
-I thought it was like
a head or something.
-No, it's so weird.
I don't know why she has it.
But we can snoop through
her drawers if you want.
It's just tons of makeup.
-[ Laughs ]
We're in the glam room.
-Yeah.
-I want to talk to you about
"Kim Kardashian West:
the Justice Project."
This is going to air Sunday
at 7pm on Oxygen.
What is this?
-So this is a documentary
that I did,
basically following my personal
journey with justice reform.
I started working with
Alice Johnson,
who after 22 years
was released from prison
from a presidential pardon.
She had a low-level
drug offense,
and so I thought to myself --
I was a bit judgmental
and thought to myself, like,
"Okay, I can handle
supporting someone
that is non-violent."
Until I went to go
visit prisons,
and I started to meet
with so many people
that are incarcerated that
shared their stories with me
and explained to me that
maybe when they were
14 years old,
they did a horrific crime
because they saw all of that
growing up in their lives,
and then is now locked away for
the rest of their lives,
but they've totally
rehabilitated themselves
and are now 30, 40, 50.
And I heard this story
so many times,
and it just broke my heart
that because people have done
some horrific things --
and I do believe people
that do a crime have to do
the time,
but it's just a matter of like,
what is fair.
-Yeah.
-And I think our society
really throws people away,
so I feel like,
ultimately everyone just wants
to feel safe in society.
Right?
So, when Alice came out,
you saw her face and you
understood that, okay,
well, this is what reform
looks like.
She would be totally
amazing in our society,
but if you think about someone
that had murdered someone,
you wouldn't really think that.
And so I wanted to kind of
open the door to that
as I was learning it myself.
-Yeah.
-Show a sex-trafficking victim
and show someone that had taken
someone's life
or someone that had just been
near someone
that had taken someone's life
and gotten more time
than the person that actually
used the weapon to kill someone.
So, just to kind of break down
all of these really unfair
things in our justice system
was really important for me
to hopefully help other people
have empathy.
-Yeah, it's got to feel
good, too,
when you do get someone
who's been locked up forever
the justice they actually
deserve.
It's got to feel great, huh?
-Yeah, just to see that people
get reunited --
like, you think it just
affects one person,
but what really drew me to
not want to stop
is when I met Alice, she had
so many brothers and sisters.
She had all these grandkids,
great grandkids that
she had never met.
It doesn't just affect
one person.
It really changes their whole
life and their whole family.
-Yeah.
-So I always think like,
that could have just been, like,
one family member of mine
making one bad decision
that led them --
especially her, she would
just answer the phone.
She was like the phone mule,
and she got more time
than the people
that were actually
dealing the drugs.
-Wow.
-And it just -- this made --
She got a harsher sentence
than Charles Manson,
and to me, that was insane.
-This airs this Sunday at 7pm,
and I also want to say,
everyone that's been coming on
has been talking about
their charities.
-Yeah.
-Can you explain
what your company, Skims,
has done?
-Yeah, so Skims just donated
$1 million to Baby2Baby,
and they're really helping out
families and mothers
that are really having
a hard time dealing with
the coronavirus
and all the effects from it.
So, it's an organization I've
been working with for a while.
And on behalf of myself
and Skims,
we really wanted to
make a donation
and help any way we can.
-It's awesome
that you're doing that,
and congrats on the documentary.
Thank you so much
for doing this again,
and say hi to those kids.
-Bye.
-Thank you, thank you.
