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>> Adrienne: GOOD EVENING, I'M
ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.
TONIGHT, ONTARIO'S FIX FOR ITS
BROKEN LONG-TERM CARE SYSTEM.
>> THIS IS JUST A TRAGEDY THAT
WE HAVE SEEN COMING.
>> Adrienne: PLUS, WHY
PROVINCIAL INSPECTIONS SLOWED
WAY DOWN BEFORE COVID-19.
>> Andrew: I'M ANDREW CHANG.
ALSO TONIGHT --
>> EFFECTIVELY OUR REVENUES WENT
TO ZERO.
>> Andrew: NEW FEDERAL HELP
FOR
BUSINESSES STRUGGLING TO PAY THE
RENT.
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE.
>> Adrienne: THE U.S. PUTS PEN
TO PAPER ON HOW TO OPEN UP ITS
ECONOMY.
>> Andrew: AND THE LOVED ONES
THAT COVID-19 HAVE LEFT BEHIND.
>> IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING TO
HIM, I GUESS THAT I WOULD HAVE
SAID DON'T DIE, I LOVE YOU.
AND NIGHT NIGHT.
>> Andrew: PAYING RESPECT TO
THE LIVES THEY LIVED.
>>> THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Adrienne: TODAY THE NUMBER
OF CANADIAN COVID-19 CASES
SOARED PAST ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT
POINT, TOPPING 30,000.
>> Andrew: THE NUMBER OF
DEATHS ALSO SPIKED.
THAT TOTAL NOW ABOUT TWICE WHAT
THE FEDERAL MODELS PROJECTED FOR
TODAY WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED
JUST A WEEK AGO.
AND THERE'S ONE BIG REASON
WHY -- OUTBREAKS IN SENIORS AND
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU ACKNOWLEDGING
TODAY THAT THE IMPACT OF THIS
VIRUS IN THOSE SETTINGS IS FAR
MORE SEVERE THAN FEARED.
NOW THAT CRISIS IS CENTRED ON
TWO PROVINCES NOW, QUÉBEC, WHERE
THE PREMIER IS ASKING FOR THE
ARMY TO COME IN,
AND ONTARIO, WHERE LOOPHOLES ARE
COMING IN A PLAN TO STOP THE
VIRUSES SPREAD.
WE'LL START THERE WITH ELLEN
MAURO.
>> SHE'LL BE MISSED DEARLY.
>> Reporter: HENRY
TOMASCEWSKI'S MOTHER MARIA DIED
YESTERDAY.
THIS WAS HER NEAR THE END,
ANOTHER VICTIM OF
COVID-19 IN A LONG-TERM CARE
HOME.
>> SHE WAS A LOVING MOM.
SHE WAS A VERY CARING MOM.
>> Reporter: NOW HER SON
STRUGGLES WITH WHAT MIGHT HAVE
BEEN HAD THE PROVINCE ACTED
QUICKER.
>> YOU KNOW, IT PULLS ON YOUR
HEARTSTRINGS KNOWING THAT THERE
WAS A POTENTIAL IF THEY ACTUALLY
HAD JUMPED ON BOARD AND TOOK
THESE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES MUCH
SOONER.
YEAH, MAYBE MY MOM WOULD STILL
HAVE BEEN HERE.
>> IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR
THE TRAGIC STORIES OF SUFFERING
AND LOSS.
>> Reporter: PREMIER DOUG FORD
HAS PLEDGED NO EXPENSE WILL BE
SPARED TO END THE CRISIS.
BUT CRITICS SAY THAT THERE ARE
GAPS IN HIS NEW PLAN.
THE ORDER PREVENTING STAFF FROM
WORKING AT MORE THAN ONE HOME
WILL ONLY BE IN PLACE FOR 14
DAYS FOR NOW, AND IT WON'T BE
ENFORCED UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF
NEXT WEEK.
TEMPORARY WORKERS WILL STILL BE
ALLOWED TO GO FROM HOME TO HOME.
THE TIMING COMES DOWN TO
LOGISTICS, SAYS THE PROVINCE.
>> SOME EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE TO
CHOOSE.
IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY WORKING
IN ONE HOME ONLY, THEY'LL HAVE
TO CHOOSE.
AND THEY NEED TIME TO GIVE THEIR
EMPLOYERS THEIR DECISION.
>> THERE'S SUCH A DISCONNECT
BETWEEN THE PUBLIC
PRONOUNCEMENTS AND THE
TIMELINES.
I FEEL THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN
TRANSPARENCY.
>> Reporter: MICHELLE van
BEUSEKOM IS WORRIED ABOUT HER
PARENTS IN A HOME WITH A
COVID-19 OUTBREAK.
THIS WAS THEM IN BETTER TIMES.
NOW THEY'RE AWAITING THEIR OWN
TEST RESULTS.
>> I FEEL SO HELPLESS.
THIS IS JUST A TRAGEDY THAT WE
HAVE SEEN COMING AND WE HAVEN'T
BEEN DOING ENOUGH.
>> Reporter: ANYTHING DONE NOW
WILL BE TOO LATE FOR HENRY
TOMASZEWSKI.
>> COULD MORE LIVES HAVE BEEN
SAVED?
I DON'T KNOW.
IT MAKES ME WONDER.
>> Reporter: THE QUESTION
HAUNTING HIM AS HE MOURNS HIS
MOTHER.
ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: EVEN BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC, INFECTION CONTROL WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE A PRIORITY AT
LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES.
DAVID COMMON SHOWS US THAT IN
ONTARIO, ON-THE-SPOT SURPRISE
INSPECTIONS
WERE USED TO FINAL CRITICAL
SHORTCOMINGS IN SOME HOMES
BEFORE THE PROVINCE QUIETLY
MOVED AWAY FROM THEM.
>> THESE HOMES ARE TURNING INTO
THE FRONT LINES.
>> Reporter: ARIZONA ONTARIO
BOOSTS STAFF TO FIGHT
OUTBREAKS IN LONG-TERM CARE,
QUESTIONS CONTINUE ABOUT HOW
WELL THE HOMES WERE PREPARED.
>> WE KNOW THAT MANY HOMES HAVE
BEEN STRUGGLING BEFORE THIS
PANDEMIC.
>> Reporter: MORE THAN A YEAR
AGO, ONTARIO MOVED TO RISK-BASED
INSPECTIONS OF HOMES.
THEY HAPPENED AT LEAST ANNUALLY,
BUT ONLY AFTER THERE'S BEEN A
COMPLAINT, CRISIS OR HARM.
THE PROVINCE EFFECTIVELY STOPPED
PROACTIVE MORE DETAILED CHECKS
KNOWN AS RESIDENT QUALITY
INSPECTIONS.
AND A CBC INVESTIGATIONS REVEAL
THAT
R.Q.I.s WERE KEY TO FINDING
87% OF INFECTION CONTROL
VIOLATIONS BETWEEN 2014 UNTIL
THEY LARGELY STOPPED
IN 2019.
>> IT CONCERNS ME VERY MUCH
BECAUSE IN THOSE INSPECTIONS
THAT THEY GAVE, THEY NEEDED TO
BE UNANNOUNCED.
>> Reporter: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
TO SAY IF THIS MADE HOMES LESS
PREPARED FOR A PANDEMIC.
BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE
OUTBREAKS NOW SUCH AS EATONVILLE
WHERE 31 HAVE DIED.
A 2017R.Q.I. WARNED OF SOILED
WALLS AND A
LIGHT FIXTURE STILL NOT CLEANED
A WEEK LATER AND NO SIGNAGE TO
INDICATE INFECTION CONTROL
MEASURES.
AT PINECREST WHERE 29 HAVE DIED
OF COVID, INSPECTORS FLAGGED
VIOLATIONS IN 2018 AFTER PRIVACY
CURTAINS HAD NOT BEEN WASHED
FOLLOWING A RESIDENT IN A SHARED
ROOM BEING SICK AND/OR COUGHING
ON THE CURTAINS.
>> THOUGH THIS PANDEMIC MIGHT
NOT HAVE BEEN SEEN, THE FACT
THAT WE WOULD HAVE DEATHS AND
INFECTION RATES ESCALATING IN
LONG-TERM CARE WAS
ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE.
>> Reporter: THIS SENIORS'
ADVOCATE SAYS THAT UNSCHEDULED,
DETAILED
INSPECTIONS SHOULD RESUME.
>> TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE HOMES
ARE FOLLOWING ALL PROTOCOLS.
>> Reporter: ONTARIO'S
MINISTRY OF LONG-TERM CARE SAYS
THAT THOSE PROTOCOLS STILL
INCLUDE INFECTION PREVENTION.
THAT INSPECTORS CONDUCTED 2,882
INSPECTIONS IN HOMES LAST YEAR.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM
CONSIDERED LOW RISK.
WITH THE PANDEMIC NOW KILLING
PEOPLE, THERE IS CERTAINLY NOW A
MUCH
GREATER FOCUS ON INFECTION
CONTROL.
DAVID COMMON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: WE ALSO HAVE AN
UPDATE ON THE OUTBREAK AT
PARTICIPATION HOUSE IN MARKHAM,
ONTARIO.
THAT IS A CARE FACILITY FOR
PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL OR
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
A SECOND RESIDENT THERE HAS
DIED.
PATTY BAIRD WAS 53.
HER BROTHER DESCRIBED HER AS
HAVING A HEART THAT A UNIVERSE
COULD NOT CONTAIN.
NEARLY EVERY RESIDENT AND MORE
THAN A DOZEN WORKERS AT
PARTICIPATION HOUSE HAVE TESTED
POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
>> Andrew: NOW LET'S TAKE A
LOOK AT THE SITUATION ACROSS
THE COUNTRY TONIGHT, AS CANADA
POSTED A NEW RECORD NUMBER OF
DAILY CASES,
PUSHING THE EPIDEMIC CURVE BACK
UP.
OVERALL 1,727 NEW INFECTIONS
TODAY.
IT ECLIPSED THE PREVIOUS HIGH
FROM
APRIL 2nd.
AGAIN, WESTERN CANADA HAD
COMPARATIVELY FEWER CASES, ONLY
14 IN B.C. TODAY WITH 162 IN
ALBERTA.
WHILE CENTRAL CANADA CONTINUES
TO STRUGGLE.
ONTARIO REPORTED 514 CASES.
QUÉBEC, NEARLY 1,000.
IN THAT PROVINCE AT LEAST 630
PEOPLE HAVE NOW DIED, MANY IN
LONG-TERM CARE PROGRAMMES THAT
ARE FALLING APART, PROMPTING
MORE DESPERATE PLEAS TO OTTAWA
FOR HELP.
ALISON NORTHCOTT TAKES A CLOSER
LOOK.
>> Reporter: THIS LONG-TERM
CARE HOME ISN'T FAMILY DOCTOR,
DR. MURPHY'S USUAL WORKPLACE,
BUT IT'S RIGHT NOW
IT'S WHERE HE'S NEEDED.
>> THEY HAVE BEEN IN THERE FOR
WEEKS NOW TAKING CARE OF THE
SICK PEOPLE GETTING SICKER.
THEY'RE TIRED.
THEY WANT TO BE HEARD.
THEY WANT TO BE SUPPORTED.
>> Reporter: THE QUÉBEC
GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT THE HOMES
WERE ALREADY SHORT ON WORKERS
EVEN BEFORE COVID-19.
>> WE NEED THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST A
FEW HUNDRED.
>> Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT IS
NOW CALLING ON ANYONE WITH
MEDICAL TRAINING, NURSES,
DOCTORS, EVEN SPECIALISTS, TO
HELP.
AND IT'S IN TALKS WITH OTTAWA TO
HAVE ARMED FORCES MEMBERS WITH
MEDICAL TRAINING SENT IN.
>> WE'RE WORKING WITH QUÉBEC TO
FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BEST HELP
IN THIS SITUATION.
>> Reporter: THE PREMIER SAYS
THAT 2,000 SPECIALISTS HAVE
ALREADY STEPPED FORWARD THOUGH
THE NURSES' UNION SAY THAT SOME
RETIRED NURSES HAVE OFFERED TO
HELP BUT ARE STILL WAITING TO BE 
CALLED, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
MORE SUITED TO THE WORK THAN
SPECIALISTS.
>> IF THEY'RE COMING THEY BETTER
HAVE A KNOWLEDGE BASE AND RUN
AROUND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND
CARE FOR THESE RESIDENTS.
BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE
THEY TO PUT IN REQUESTS FOR OUR
NURSES.
OUR NURSES ARE DOING THEIR WORK
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO
BABYSIT SPECIALISTS.
>> WE NEED SUPPORT.
>> Reporter: GINETTE DANIEL'S
FATHER IS
MORE THAN ONE OF THE 100 PEOPLE
WITH COVID-19 IN HIS LONG-TERM
CARE FORWARD.
>> WHAT WE CAN DO FORWARD TO
MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE
WELL TAKEN CARE OF?
THAT THEIR DIGNITY IS SAFE AND
THEY DON'T SUFFER.
>> Reporter: THE PROVINCE
CONFIRMED THAT THE FIRST DOCTOR
KILLED BY THE VIRUS.
IT SAYS THAT THE 44-YEAR-OLD
PHYSICIAN DID NOT WORK IN A
HOSPITAL OR
A LONG-TERM CARE HOME, A
REMINDER THAT THE VIRUS IS
SPREADING IN OTHER AREAS TOO AND
THAT IT'S DANGEROUS.
ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS,
MONTRÉAL.
>> Adrienne: SO LET'S MOVE TO
THE ECONOMIC PICTURE NOW WITH
STORES SHUTTERED AND INVENTORY
PILING UP, SMALL BUSINESSES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR BILLS.
WELL, TODAY THE PRIME MINISTER
ANNOUNCED EMERGENCY RENT RELIEF
IS COMING.
BUT AS ERICA JOHNSON EXPLAINS,
MANY ARE LEFT WONDERING IF IT
WILL BE ENOUGH.
>> Reporter: IF THE SOCCER
BALL IS COVID-19, THE WALL
TAKING A BEATING IS BRENDAN
QUARRY'S BUSINESS.
HE'S CO-OWNER OF AN INDOOR
SOCCER CENTRE, ORDERED SHUT DOWN
FIVE WEEKS AGO BECAUSE OF THE
PANDEMIC.
>> EFFECTIVELY OUR REVENUES WENT
TO ZERO.
>> Reporter: BUT HE'S STILL GOT
TO PAY RENT -- $17,000 A MONTH.
HE SAYS WHAT HE NEEDS FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS MORE THAN
JUST A LOAN.
>> WHEN YOU SADDLE US WITH DEBT
AT A
TIME WHEN OUR REVENUES ARE ZERO
WE'RE ESSENTIALLY KICKING THE
CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT'S NOT
GOING TO BE THE CASE.
>> Reporter: ACROSS THE
COUNTRY SMALL BUSINESSES ARE
HEMORRHAGING MONEY, CALLING FOR
EMERGENCY RENT RELIEF.
TELLING CBC NEWS THAT RENT IS
$20,000 A MONTH, I AM VERY
STRESSED.
UNABLE TO PAY RENT, I WILL BE
FORCED TO SHUT MY BUSINESS FOR
GOOD.
IT'S A HARDSHIP THAT I CANNOT
PUT INTO WORDS.
STAYING IN THE GAME IS GOING TO
BE HARD, ACCORDING TO A NEW
SURVEY OF SMALL BUSINESSES.
50% AREN'T CONFIDENT THEY CAN
SURVIVE PAST MAY.
28% HAVE ALREADY CLOSED.
>> THAT'S WHY RENT RELIEF IS
JUST SO CRITICAL.
I HEARD FROM BUSINESS OWNERS WHO
TALK ABOUT WATCHING THEIR LIFE'S
WORK CIRCLE THE DRAIN.
>> Reporter: HER OFFICE HAS
BEEN TAKING UP TO 800 CALLS A
DAY FROM SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS
IN DISTRESS, SOME EVEN
TALKING ABOUT SUICIDE.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE'RE HEARING FROM
CANADIANS WHO NEED MORE HELP AND
FROM BUSINESSES WHO NEED MORE
SUPPORT.
>> Reporter: THE CANADA
EMERGENCY COMMERCIAL
RENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME
ANNOUNCED TODAY WILL GIVE LOANS
TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS SO
THEY CAN LOWER OR FOREGO THE
RENT FOR APRIL, MAY AND JUNE.
BUT SMALL BUSINESSES SAY THAT
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS SUCH
AS WHO WILL QUALIFY AND HOW MUCH
IT WILL COVER.
BRENDAN QUARRY SAYS THAT HE JUST
HOPES THAT ANY GOVERNMENT
PROGRAMME WILL BE ENOUGH TO KEEP
HIS OUTFIT IN PLAY.
ERICA JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Andrew: A STAGGERING NEW
U.S. UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS ARE
SHOWING THE UNPRECEDENTED IMPACT
THE VIRUS HAS HAD ON ITS
ECONOMY.
5.2 MILLION PEOPLE FILED FOR
UNEMPLOYMENT LAST WEEK, BRINGING
THE RECENT TOTAL TO 22 MILLION.
IT'S THE WORST STRETCH OF U.S.
JOB LOSSES ON RECORD,
REPRESENTING ONE IN SEVEN
WORKERS.
IT'S THOSE UNSETTLING NUMBERS
THAT ARE DRIVING THE PRESIDENT'S
PUSH TO REOPEN THE ECONOMY IN
SOME STATES.
BUT AS PAUL HUNTER
TELLS US, SOME FEAR THAT IT'S
TOO MUCH, TOO SOON.
>> Reporter: IN A SENSE THE
WAY FORWARD IN THE U.S. WILL
DEPEND WHERE YOU ARE.
SO CONSIDER NEW JERSEY TODAY AND
YET MORE HARD-TO-WATCH IMAGES OF
BODIES AT A NURSING HOME HIT
HARD BY COVID-19 DISCOVERED
DUMPED IN A PILE INSIDE AT A
MAKESHIFT MORGUE.
>> IT WAS OVERWHELMING I THINK
FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INSIDE,
THE STAFF.
THE STAFF WERE OVERWHELMED BY
THE NUMBER OF BODIES THAT WERE
BECOMING DECEASED.
>> Reporter: WHILE IN NEW
YORK, ITS DEATH COUNT GROWS.
>> 600 PEOPLE DIED YESTERDAY
FROM THE DISEASE.
>> Reporter: ALONG WITH WORD
THAT IT'S SO-CALLED CLOSED DOWN
POLICIES ARE BEING EXTENDED TO
AT LEAST MAY 15th.
>> WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEN, I
DON'T KNOW.
WE WILL SEE DEPENDING ON WHAT
THE DATA SHOWS.
>> Reporter: INDEED SEVEN
STATES TODAY EXTENDED THEIR
SHUTDOWNS, BUT WITH
BUSINESSES BIG AND SMALL
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY
SHUTTERED, THESE ARE IN
WASHINGTON, D.C., AND WITH MANY
MILLIONS NOW UNEMPLOYED,
COUNTLESS NOW IN MONSTER LINEUPS
FOR HANDOUTS OF FOOD AND OTHER
NECESSITIES --
>> President Donald Trump:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT DONALD
TRUMP ANNOUNCED HIS GUIDELINES
FOR A REOPENING OF THE ECONOMY.
>> President Donald Trump:
WE'RE OPENING UP OUR COUNTRY.
WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
AMERICA WANTS TO BE OPEN AND
AMERICANS WANT TO BE OPEN.
>> Reporter: A PHASED
RE-OPENING HE SAID, BEGINNING
ONLY FOR PLACES THAT SHOW LOW
NUMBERS.
AND PROVEN CASES OF COVID FOR 14
STRAIGHT DAYS.
AND AMONG OTHER CRITERIA, PROVEN
TESTING CAPABILITY.
SOME STATES, HE SAID, QUALIFY
RIGHT AWAY.
>> President Donald Trump: WE
ARE NOT OPENING ALL AT ONCE, BUT
ONE CAREFUL STEP AT A TIME.
AND SOME STATES WILL BE ABLE TO
OPEN UP SOONER THAN OTHERS.
>> Reporter: AND THOUGH TRUMP
SAID THAT NO STATE SHOULD REOPEN
BEFORE IT'S READY AND SAFE, HE
ALSO UNDERLINED THAT IT'S THE
STATES THEMSELVES, AS HE PUT IT,
CALLING THE SHOTS.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: NOW CANADA DOESN'T
RECORD DATA ABOUT THE RACE AND
THE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS OF
COVID PATIENTS, BUT U.S. HEALTH
AUTHORITIES DO.
AND IT SHOWS THE VIRUS CUTTING A
DEVASTATING
SWATH THROUGH BLACK AND HISPANIC
COMMUNITIES.
SUSAN ORMISTON LOOKS AT THE
REASONS UNDERPINNING THAT
INEQUITY.
>> BRING YOUR BALL.
>> Reporter: LEBRON BRYANT,
NIGHT SUPERVISOR, MAKES SURE
THAT THE NIGHT SHIFT HAVE MASKS
AND GLOVES.
>> I MAKE SURE THAT I LEAVE
EVERYTHING DOWNSTAIRS SO I DON'T
BRING ANYTHING UP AND I GO TO
TAKE A SHOWER.
I TRY TO PROTECT MY FAMILY AS
BEST AS I CAN.
>> Reporter: EACH NIGHT AS
THEY HEAD OUT TO PICK UP GARBAGE
AT GROCERY STORES AND HOSPITALS
IN BROOKLYN, THEY TAKE A RISK.
>> I'M JUST GRATEFUL TO BE
WORKING STILL AND TO BE MAKING
MONEY.
>> Reporter: ESSENTIAL WORKERS
ARE MORE EXPOSED.
AND AS THESE MEN HAUL AWAY BAGS
OF SOILED HOSPITAL GOWNS, EARLY
DATA IS SHOWING THAT AFRICAN
AMERICANS MAY BE MORE
VULNERABLE.
>> WHEN YOU COME TO WORK YOU
HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS.
>> Reporter: THEY KEEP THE
CITY GOING WHILE OTHERS SLEEP,
BUT DENSE NEIGHBOURHOODS AND
UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS MAKE
SOME COMMUNITIES MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE.
>> EVERYONE SAYS THAT THIS VIRUS
DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE, BUT THIS
SOCIETY DISCRIMINATES.
THE RATES OF HEART DISEASE ARE
NOT EQUAL.
THE RATES OF HYPERTENSION ARE
NOT EQUAL.
AND ALL OF THAT MAKES A PERSON
MORE LIKELY
TO GET COVID-19.
>> Reporter: IN NEW YORK,
LATINOS ARE ALSO AMONG THE MOST
AT RISK, PARTICULARLY HERE IN
CORONA -- YEP, A NEIGHBOURHOOD
NAMED CORONA IN QUEENS.
MORE HERE HAVE BEEN INFECTED
THAN ALMOST ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE
CITY.
>> EVERYBODY IS SCARED,
EVERYBODY IS PETRIFIED.
>> Reporter: THERE'S NO
SHORTAGE OF CUSTOMERS FOR PAUL'S
FISH SHOP, BUT THE VIRUS' SPREAD
HAS SPARED FEW.
>> IT'S REALLY SAD BECAUSE
ACTUALLY ON TUESDAY MY
FATHER-IN-LAW PASSED AWAY
BECAUSE OF CORONAVIRUS.
SO THE FUNERAL HOMES ARE REALLY
FULL SO WE HAD TO PUT HIM ON A
WAITING LIST.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE ON A
WAITING LIST FOR A FUNERAL?
>> YES.
>> Reporter: SHE'S STILL
WORKING AT A LOCAL HOSPITAL AND
DIEGO, WELL, HE CAN'T AFFORD TO
STOP.
WOORKS
>> WE HAVE TO PAY RENT AND WE
HAVE TO PAY EVERYTHING.
SO WE HAVE TO WORK.
>> Reporter: AS THE VIRUS IN
CORONA TAKES ITS UNEQUAL TOLL.
SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, NEW
YORK.
>> Adrienne: WITH OVER 13,000
DEAD, BRITONS HAVE BEEN SHARPLY
BEEN CRITICAL OF THEIR
AUTHORITIES.
AS LONDON HEADS INTO ANOTHER
THREE WEEKS OF LOCKDOWN, MANY
ACCUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF BLOWING
THE INITIAL RESPONSE.
MARGARET EVANS GAUGES THE
NATIONAL MOOD.
>> Reporter: IN AN ENGLISH
GARDEN, A 99-YEAR-OLD VETERAN
APPROACHES TWO MILESTONES HEAD
ON -- A BIRTHDAY AND A PLEDGE TO
WALK 100 LAPS TO MARK IT RAISING
MONEY FOR BRITAIN'S NATIONAL
HEALTH SERVICE.
>> YOU CAN'T START HALFWAY.
YOU START AT THE BEGINNING.
>> Reporter: AND ON HIS
SHOULDERS,
CAPTAIN TOM MOORE HAS CARRIED
WITH HIM ALL OF THE WEIGHT AND
HOPES OF A COUNTRY DIPPED IN
DARKNESS.
YOU COULDN'T FEEL MUCH FURTHER
AWAY FROM AN ENGLISH GARDEN THAN
HERE IN CENTRAL LONDON.
THIS IS WHAT LIFE UNDER LOCKDOWN
LOOKS LIKE A MONTH IN, AND
BRINGING
WITH IT ALIEN RHYTHMS OF LIFE.
TODAY THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED
AT LEAST THREE MORE WEEKS OF IT.
>> WE'VE JUST COME TOO FAR AND
WE HAVE LOST TOO MANY LOVED
ONES, WE'VE ALREADY SACRIFICED
FAR
TOO MUCH TO EASE UP NOW.
>> Reporter: GOVERNMENT
MESSAGING IS WORKING, BRITONS
ARE STAYING HOME.
BUT CRITICS SAY THAT COMPLACENCY
IN THE GOVERNMENT EARLY ON HAS
LEFT BRITAIN IN A VULNERABLE
POSITION.
THIS CAFÉ OWNER IS ONE OF THOSE
TRYING TO ADAPT TO A NEW
REALITY, NOW SELLING ONLY
TAKEOUT.
HE'S DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW
THINGS HAVE BEEN HANDLED.
>> BECAUSE BRITAIN WAS THE LAST
ONE TO TAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT
MEASUREMENTS, LOCKDOWN AND
EVERYTHING.
>> Reporter: HE ALSO WANTS
MORE TESTING, SOMETHING THAT THE
GOVERNMENT HAS STRUGGLED WITH.
ALONG WITH PROMISES ON
VENTILATORS AND PROTECTIVE GEAR,
NOT JUST FOR DOCTORS AND NURSES,
BUT FOR CAREGIVERS IN NURSING
HOMES.
>> THERE WAS A GENERAL FEELING
THAT PERHAPS THE GOVERNMENT,
EVEN WHEN IT HAS SUPPOSEDLY
GOTTEN A GRIP ON THE SITUATION
WAS, IF YOU LIKE, OVERPROMISING
AND UNDERDELIVERRING
PARTICULARLY.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE ARE
REASONS FOR MAYBE FEELING A
LITTLE LESS ALONE -- CAPTAIN TOM
IS ONE OF THEM.
HE TOOK HIS 100th LAP IN FRONT
OF A GUARD OF HONOUR AND RAISED
MORE THAN £12 MILLION AND HAD A
WORD FOR THE WEARY OF HEART.
>> IT'S DIFFICULT AT THE MOMENT,
BUT THE SUN WILL SHINE ON YOU
AGAIN AND THE CLOUDS WILL GO
AWAY.
>> Reporter: MARGARET EVANS,
CBC NEWS, LONDON.
>> Andrew: AND NOW LET'S TAKE
A LOOK AT SOME OTHER NEWS
TONIGHT, STARTING WITH A
SURPRISE AND A PRETTY INCREDIBLE
HIGHWAY EMERGENCY NEAR QUÉBEC
CITY.
YEAH, YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT, A
SMALL PLANE WAS FORCED TO LAND
ON HIGHWAY 40 THIS MORNING DUE
TO ENGINE TROUBLE.
SHOCKING AS IT MUST HAVE BEEN
FOR DRIVERS, THE PILOT WAS IN
CONSTANT CONTACT WITH AIR
TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE AIRPORT.
NOBODY WAS HURT IN THE INCIDENT.
>>> THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA
WILL NOT HEAR THE APPEAL OF THE
YOUNG MAN WHO WENT ON A SHOOTING
SPREE IN NORTHERN SASKATCHEWAN
FOUR YEARS AGO.
BRANDON FONTAINE, WHO CAN NOW BE
IDENTIFIED, KILLED FOUR PEOPLE
AND LEFT SEVEN INJURED JUST
BEFORE HIS 18th BIRTHDAY.
THIS WAS BACK IN 2016.
HE WILL NOW SERVE AN ADULT
SENTENCE OF LIFE IN PRISON WITH
NO CHANCE OF PAROLE FOR AT LEAST
10 YEARS.
>>> AND A FAST-MOVING WILDFIRE
HAS FORCED AN EVACUATION NEAR
SQUAMISH, B.C.
AT LEAST 30 PEOPLE WERE AFFECTED
IN THE DISTRICT NOW UNDER A
LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY.
THE FIRE HAS BURNED AT LEAST
100-HECTARES OF FOREST SO FAR
AND AUTHORITIES FEAR THAT WARM,
WINDY WEATHER COULD MAKE THINGS
MUCH WORSE.
>> Adrienne: TONIGHT "THE
NATIONAL" BEGINS A PROJECT TO
TELL THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE
BEHIND THE HORRIBLE NUMBERS.
>> MY DAD WAS A PRETTY
REMARKABLE MAN IN SO MANY WAYS.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD,
LIVES LIVED BEFORE THE
CORONAVIRUS.
>> Andrew: PLUS, MANAGING
CANADA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AN
UNPREDICTABLE WHITE HOUSE.
WHEN WILL IT BE TIME TO RE-OPEN
THE BORDER?
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE TO DISCUSS.
>> Adrienne: PLUS, HAVE YOU
TRIED IT YET?
>> THIS IS THE WORST HAIRCUT
I'VE EVER HAD!
>> Adrienne: THE AT-HOME
HAIRCUT.
WE'VE GOT THE BEST, THE WORST,
AND SOME TIPS FROM A
>> Andrew: WELCOME BACK.
CANADA HAS RECORDED ITS FIRST
COVID-19 RELATED DEATH AT A
FEDERAL PRISON.
AN INMATE FROM THE MISSION
INSTITUTION IN B.C. DIED IN
HOSPITAL YESTERDAY FROM APPARENT
COMPLICATIONS RELATED TO THE
VIRUS.
TO DATE, MORE THAN 50 INMATES
AND HALF A DOZEN STAFF HAVE
TESTED POSITIVE, MAKING IT THE
LARGEST OUTBREAK AMONG PRISONERS
IN THE COUNTRY.
>>> WESTJET SAY THEY'RE LAYING
OFF 1,700 PILOTS BECAUSE OF AN
UNPRECEDENTED REDUCTION IN AIR
TRAVEL.
THE LAYOFFS WILL TAKE EFFECT
EITHER MAY OR
JUNE 1.
THE CALGARY-BASED AIRLINE SAID
JUST LAST WEEK THAT IT WOULD USE
THE
FEDERAL WAGE SUBSIDY TO HIRE
BACK MORE THAN 6,000 WORKERS.
>>> AND HALIFAX WATER HAS TAKEN
TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND URGING
RESIDENTS NOT TO FLUSH THINGS
LIKE WIPES AND PLASTIC GLOVES
DOWN THE TOILET.
THE UTILITY HAS SEEN A SURGE OF
UNUSUAL MATERIALS IN THE
TREATMENT SYSTEM.
>> Adrienne: AS THE DEATH TOLL
FROM COVID-19 RISES, ONE IMPACT
THAT MANY ARE HAVING TO COME TO
TERMS WITH IS HOW TO MOURN THE
DEAD.
FARRAH MERALI SHOWS US HOW
MUSLIM COMMUNITIES ARE COPING
AND ADAPTING.
>> Reporter: TWO WEEKS AGO HE
HEARD HIS FATHER'S VOICE FOR THE
LAST TIME.
>> HE WAS COVID POSITIVE SO HE'D
BEEN ISOLATED.
MY MOM HAD REQUESTED THAT WE
LEAVE HIS CELLPHONE BY HIS EAR.
WE COULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A
MORE KINDER AND MORE GENTLE WAY
FOR GOD TO TAKE DAD.
>> Reporter: IN ISOLATION,
NOTIER
HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BURY
HIS FATHER WHILE FOLLOWING
MUSLIM RITUALS.
IN ISLAM, THE DECEASED SHOULD BE
BURIED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
BEFORE THAT THE BODY MUST BE
WASHED AND SHROUDED IN A WHITE
CLOTH AND FOLLOWED BY A COMMUNAL
PRAYER.
ALL CHALLENGING DURING THIS
PANDEMIC.
>> WE HAD TO CONSULT BACK AND
FORTH WITH MEDICAL EXPERTS AND
OUR SCHOLARS.
>> Reporter: SHE IS BELIEVED
TO BE ONE OF THE FEW
LICENSED MUSLIM FUNERAL
DIRECTORS IN CANADA.
NOTIER'S FATHER WAS THE MOSQUE'S
FIRST COVID DEATH.
WITH THE ADVICE OF HEALTH
EXPERTS HER ESPECIALLY TRAINED
TEAM COULD WASH AND SHROUD AND
BURY HIM AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.
HAD HE DIED HERE IN ONTARIO IT'S 
UNLIKELY THAT THESE ISLAMIC
RITUALS WOULD HAVE BEEN
PERFORMED.
BECAUSE GUIDELINES NOW SAY THAT
ONLY LICENSED
PROFESSIONALS CAN PREPARE
COVID-
VICTIMS FOR BURIAL, WHILE MOST
MOSQUES RELY ON VOLUNTEERS TO
PREPARE THE DECEASED.
THE COUNCIL OF IMAMS ISSUED A
DIRECTIVE SAYING THAT THE
OBLIGATION TO WASH AND SHROUD A
19 BODY HAS NOW BEEN LIFTED.
IT'S NEWS THAT THIS IMAM SAYS
THAT CAN BE DEVASTATING FOR THE
FAMILIES.
>> AT A TIME OF EXPERIENCING A
LOSS OF SOMEONE THAT YOU LOVE,
IT'S A VERY HARD THING
TO SWALLOW.
>> Reporter: NOTIER SAYS THAT
HE'S STRUGGLING WITH GRIEF
DURING SELF-ISOLATION.
>> WE CAN'T HUG EACH OTHER.
I MEAN, TO HUG MY MOM, TO HUG MY
KIDS, I MEAN, I'M YET TO DO THAT
TODAY.
>> Reporter: BUT HE SAYS THAT
HE'S GRATEFUL TO KADRE FOR THE
LENGTHS SHE WENT TO TO LAY
HIS FATHER TO REST.
FARRAH MERALI, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: NOW OUR DOCTORS ARE
STANDING BY TO TAKE YOUR
QUESTIONS, INCLUDING THIS ONE --
AND THIS IS A BIGGIE -- WE NEVER
DEVELOPED A VACCINE FOR SARS OR
MERS.
WHAT IF WE CAN'T FIND A COVID-19
VACCINE?
WE'RE BACK AFTER THIS.
(*)
(*)
>> Andrew: HEY, WELCOME BACK.
TIME ONCE AGAIN TO TAKE YOUR
COVID-19 QUESTIONS.
YOU KEEP SENDING THEM IN SO
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ANSWERING
THEM, JOINING US TONIGHT IS
RESPIROLOGIST, DR. SAMIR
GUPTA, AND INFECTIOUS DISEASE
SPECIALIST, DR. LYNORA SAXINGER.
DR. GUPTA, LET'S START WITH YOU.
HERE'S THE FIRST QUESTION COMING
RIGHT AT YOU.
IF HOSPITALS AREN'T EXPERIENCING
A SURGE, SHOULD WE START
BRINGING
BACK ELECTIVE SURGERIES?
GOOD QUESTION.
>> THIS IS A CHALLENGING ONE.
I THINK THAT FOR DOCS, THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS THINKING
WHAT IS ELECTIVE OR WHAT IS NOT.
IF SOMETHING IS LIFE OR LIMB
THREATENING, IT IS URGENT.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON A
SPECTRUM.
AND WE STRUGGLE TO THINK ABOUT
WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE BECAUSE
FOR A PATIENT WHO IS WAITING FOR
THAT SURGERY IT'S NOT ELECTIVE
AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND
THEY MAY BE SUFFERING AND MAY
HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE SOME
TIME.
THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE
STILL AT A POINT THAT WE STILL
DON'T WANT A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT
THE HOSPITALS AND PEOPLE TO IN
ADVERTENTLY TO BRING THE VIRUS
INTO THE HOSPITALS.
AND WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO IS
WELL COMING IN FOR ELECTIVE
SURGERY TO
LEAVE WITH THE VIRUS.
IF WE DO A MAJOR SURGERY WE
OFTEN HAVE A VENTILATOR WITH
THAT AND WE'D HAVE TO TEST THE
PATIENT AND TEST THE SUPPLY
ISSUES.
BECAUSE THE TEST COULD BE FALSE
NEGATIVE, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO
WEAR A FULL P.P.E. AND INCLUDING
A N95 MASK.
SO YOU GET THE IDEA, THERE'S A
LOT OF REASONS WHY WE WOULDN'T
WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
>> Andrew: OKAY, INTERESTING.
DR. SAXINGER, WE NEVER DEVELOPED
A VACCINE FOR SARS OR MERS, WHAT
IF WE CAN'T FIND A COVID-19
VACCINE?
>> I THINK THAT PEOPLE RIGHTLY
SEE THAT WE'RE REALLY HANGING A
LOT ON
THE HOPE OF A VACCINE COMING OUT
OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A VACCINE WHAT
WE'D REALLY BE LOOKING AT IS
KIND OF THOUGHTFUL MODULATED
SOCIETAL CONTROLS.
VERY, VERY RIGOROUS CONTACT
TRACING AND ISOLATION TO TRY TO
CONTAIN THE SPREAD WITHIN THE
COMMUNITY.
AND POTENTIALLY IF WE COULD FIND
SOME TREATMENTS THAT COULD
LESSEN THE RISK OF DISEASE
BECOMING FATAL, THAT WOULD BE
VERY IMPORTANT TOO.
WITH ALL OF THAT, THAT'S NOT
NOTHING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALSO
NEED TO DO WHILE WAITING FOR A
VACCINE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED WITH SARS AND MERS
VIRUS, THEY ACTUALLY WERE
CONTAINED AND CONTROLLED WITHOUT
A VACCINE.
SO THEY DID NOT BECOME
ESTABLISHED IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT THE WHOLE
SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS WORKING
REALLY HARD ON VACCINES RIGHT
NOW.
I THINK THAT IT'S A LEGITIMATE
HOPE THAT WE'LL SUCCEED IN
FINDING SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
BUT IS THERE A REALISTIC CHANCE
THAT WE WOULDN'T FIND A VACCINE?
>> IT'S HARD TO KNOW.
I THINK THAT IT LOOKS PLAUSIBLE
THAT WE'LL FIND IT.
AND IF WE DON'T FIND A VACCINE
THAT WORKS, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO
FALL BACK TO THESE OTHER
MEASURES.
>> Andrew: DR. SAXINGER, CAN
YOU TAKE THIS NEXT ONE TOO.
WHAT IS THE RISK OF CONTRACTING
COVID-19 IN A PUBLIC BATHROOM?
>> RIGHT.
WELL, THERE'S THE OBVIOUS RISK
OF THE DOORKNOB AND THE DOOR
HANDLES AND ALL OF THE OTHER
HIGH-TOUCH SURFACES.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT
SPREAD FROM OTHER BODY FLUIDS
AND SUBSTANCES.
AND THERE HAVE
BEEN VIRUS FOUND IN FECES.
IT'S USUALLY FRAGMENT VIRUS,
LIKE P.C.R. POSITIVE ONLY AND
IT'S
UNSURE IF IT'S INFECTIOUS.
AND I GUESS THAT THERE'S A
THEORETICAL RISK BUT THE RISK IS
ONLY IF YOU INHALE IT.
SO IT'S FAIRLY UNUSUAL TO INHALE
FECES.
YOU MIGHT MAKE SURE THAT THE LID
IS CLOSED BEFORE YOU FLUSH BUT
THAT'S A LOW AND THEORETIC RISK
AND I THINK THAT IT WOULDN'T
REALLY BE
SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY
EPIDEMIOLOGIC SUGGESTION THAT
IT'S SPREAD THROUGH FECES.
>> Andrew: FASCINATING AND
DISGUSTING AT THE SAME TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S ALL THE
TIME THAT WE HAVE LEFT FOR THIS.
DR. SAXINGER
AND DR. GUPTA, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Andrew: AS WE HAVE
MENTIONED WE'LL ASK YOUR
QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID-19 EVERY
NIGHT SO SEND THEM IN.
YOU CAN MESSAGE US DIRECTLY ON
INSTAGRAM @CBCTHENATIONAL OR YOU
CAN SEND US AN EMAIL TO
COVID@CBC.CA AND JUST BE SURE TO
PUT "THE NATIONAL" IN THE
SUBJECT LINE.
>>> NOW IN ADDITION TO TAKING
YOUR QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEEN
TAKING A REGULAR LOOK AT HOW
MUCH THE LITTLE THINGS HAVE
CHANGED AS WE LIVE THROUGH THIS
PANDEMIC.
OUR LATEST COVID HOW-TO GUIDE IS
ABOUT
FOOD DELIVERY.
FOOD DELIVERY -- WE'RE DOING IT
MORE AND MORE.
HOW SAFE IS THE FOOD?
>> IT'S GENERALLY FELT THAT FOOD
IS NOT USUALLY A VEHICLE OF
TRANSMISSION OF THIS VIRUS.
>> Andrew: THIS IS BACKED UP
BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGINISATION
AND IT'S TRUE OF OTHER
CORONAVIRUSES LIKE SARS AND MERS
AS WELL.
REMEMBER, COVID-19 IS A
RESPIRATORY ILLNESS, IT'S NOT A
FOOD-BORNE ILLNESS LIKE
SALMONELLA OR E-COLI.
NOW THE CONTAINER THAT THE FOOD
COMES IN, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT.
>> IN GENERAL I THINK THAT IT
WOULD BE RATHER SAFE.
BUT, OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN HANDLING THIS AND HELD THE
BAG AND PASSED THE BAG TO YOU.
SO ADHERENCE TO HAND HYGIENE,
IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND AFTER YOU GET YOUR FOOD AND
YOU TAKE YOUR FOOD OUT OF THE
BAG, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO WASH
YOUR
HANDS WITH SOAP AND WATER.
>> Andrew: IF YOU'RE NOT BY A
SINK, THE NEXT BEST THING IS
HAND SANITIZER WITH AT LEAST 60%
ALCOHOL.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, ALWAYS GOOD
ADVICE.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," HAVE YOU RESORTED TO
CUTTING YOUR OWN HAIR YET?
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE
THINKING ABOUT IT.
WELL, HOLD ON, WE HAVE A FEW
TIPS FROM A PRO.
>>> BUT, FIRST, ROSIE IS HERE
WITH "AT ISSUE."
>> Rosemary: ADRIENNE, OTTAWA
IS TRYING AS YOU KNOW TO BALANCE
WHEN TO
REOPEN THE ECONOMY WITH THE
ONGOING NEED FOR PUBLIC HEALTH
RESTRICTIONS.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE U.S.
POTENTIALLY HAVE AN IMPACT
(*)
>> Rosemary: WELCOME BACK.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT
CANADA IS STILL WEEKS AWAY FROM
REOPENING THE ECONOMY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE WILL HOPEFULLY IN
THE COMING TIME BE ABLE TO
LOOSEN CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS, BUT
OUR HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND
EXPERTS AND ALL LEADERS
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HAS TO BE
DONE AT THE RIGHT MOMENT.
>> Rosemary: SO HOW WILL
OTTAWA AND THE PROVINCES REACH
THAT BALANCE?
IT'S THURSDAY AND I'M HERE WITH
"AT ISSUE."
CHANTAL HEBERT IS IN MONTRÉAL.
ANDREW COYNE IS IN TORONTO.
AND ALTHIA RAJ IS IN OTTAWA
TONIGHT.
ALL OF THEM ARE FROM THEIR HOME
STUDIOS.
SO LOTS OF QUESTIONS TO THE
PRIME MINISTER ABOUT THIS THIS
WEEK.
IT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT IN OTHER
COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE UNITED
STATES.
HOW DIFFICULT A BALANCE IS THIS?
AND HOW MUCH SAY DOES OTTAWA
HAVE IN MAKING THIS DECISION?
CHANTAL, I'LL START WITH YOU.
>> WELL, ROSIE, IF ANYONE
EXPECTS THE PRIME MINISTER
TRUDEAU TO WALK OUT OF THAT
COTTAGE AS IT'S CALLED ONE DAY
AND SAY THAT HE DECLARES V-DAY,
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
OUR COUNTRY IS LARGER
GEOGRAPHICALLY THAN MANY OF THE
DISTANCES IN EUROPE.
AND SOME REGIONS OF THE COUNTRY
WILL PROBABLY RE-OPEN FASTER
THAN OTHERS.
THE BIG QUESTION FROM THE POINT
OF THE VIEW OF THE ECONOMY IS
ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC -- TWO
PROVINCES THAT AT THIS POINT ARE
CERTAINLY NOT AROUND THE CORNER
OF THE PANDEMIC YET.
>> Rosemary: AND HOW MUCH
PRESSURE WILL THERE BE, ANDREW,
AS THIS GOES ON FOR THAT -- FOR
US TO START HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION ON KNOWING WHAT
THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE?
>> IT'S -- YEAH, THE PRESSURE IS
GOING TO BUILD FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS.
ONE OF WHICH IS THE ECONOMY.
WE SAW FIGURES OUT FOR MARCH
I THINK THAT IT WAS A 9% DECLINE
SO WE'RE LOSING ABOUT 2% OF
G.D.P. PER WEEK.
AND THE LONGER THIS GOES ON THE
MORE THAT WILL BE THE PRESSURE.
AND WE'RE SEEING OUTSIDE OF
ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC, A LOT OF
PROGRESS BEING MADE IN THE
COUNTRY.
AND AS THE CASE RATES COME DOWN,
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SAYING
WHY ARE WE STILL IN THIS LOCKUP.
AND, THIRDLY, WE ARE SEEING
OTHER COUNTRIES, NOTABLY THE
UNITED STATES, STARTING
GRADUALLY AND TENTATIVELY MOVING
TOWARDS SOME KIND OF GRADUAL
UNLOCKING.
AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY PUTTING
PRESSURE.
SO, YES, AT SOME POINT WE CANNOT
STAY IN LOCKDOWN FOR 12 MONTHS
OR 18 MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS
UNTIL WE GET A NEW VACCINE.
NEITHER CAN WE THROW OPEN
THE DOORS AND DECLARE VICTORY AS
CHANTAL SAYS.
SO I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
WORKING ON THIS IS TO FIND A WAY
TO GRADUALLY UNLOCK SOME SECTORS
AT A TIME AND TESTING ALL THE
WAY ALONG AND MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE NOT BEING FOOLISH BUT
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
STARTING TO PROGRESS TOWARDS A
MORE OPEN ECONOMY AND A MORE
OPEN SOCIETY,
AS FAR AS THE SCIENCE AND THE
CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND PERMIT.
>> Rosemary: AND I WONDER,
ALTHIA, WHAT WILL THE
PRESSURE BE LIKE BETWEEN THE
PROVINCES?
EVERYONE IS WORKING TOGETHER AS
TEAM CANADA NOW, BUT IF YOU SEE
SOME PROVINCES UNLOCKING BEFORE
OTHERS, HOW SUSTAINABLE IS THAT?
I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK THAT THE QUESTION IS
ALSO THE INTERPROVINCIAL TRAVEL
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
INGREDIENTS TO ALLOW EVERYBODY
TO SAY, OKAY, MISSION
ACCOMPLISHED.
WE DON'T HAVE MASS TESTING YET.
AND WE HAVE SEEN JUST THIS WEEK
ACTUALLY IN THE FIRST JAPANESE
TOWN TO HAVE THE DECLARED STATE
OF EMERGENCY, LAST MONTH ALLOWED
BUSINESSES TO REOPEN THIS WEEK
TO HAVE A SECOND WAVE.
135 NEW CASES IN THAT NORTHERN
JAPANESE TOWN.
AND IN PART BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
HAVE TESTING.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MASS
TESTING ANYWHERE.
SO THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE
PRESSURE.
THAT BEING SAID, THE PROVINCES
ARE QUITE DIFFERENT WITH THEIR
OWN EXPERIENCE OF HANDLING THE
VIRUS AND ALSO THE TYPES OF
CASES THEY HAVE.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE
YUKON AND THE
NORTHWEST TERRITORIES, FOR
EXAMPLE, TO HAVE SIMILAR
RESTRICTIONS AS ONTARIO OR NEVER
MIND MAYBE EVEN NEW BRUNSWICK,
RIGHT?
WE HAVE SEEN THAT COME OUT THIS
WEEK AS WELL.
I DO THINK THAT WHEN THE PUBLIC
STARTS TO SEE THE WEATHER GET
NICER AND PEOPLE START TO GET
RESTLESS AND THEY START TO LOOK
AT THE STATS WHERE THERE'S NOT
THAT MANY PEOPLE -- LIKE THE
I.C.U. IS NOT OVERWHELMED, THE
FEAR IS THAT THE REASON WHY THE
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS AND
POLITICIANS WERE TRYING TO TELL
US TO STAY
HOME, THOSE HAVEN'T MATERIALIZED
YET.
SO THERE'S A PRESSURE TO RESPOND
TO PEOPLE.
AND MAYBE THAT
PRESSURE WILL HAVE TO BE
ADDRESSED NOT JUST THROUGH
POLITICIANS BUT THROUGH HEALTH
OFFICIALS AS WELL, DOCTORS AND
NURSES IN THE HOSPITALS TO
EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY THEY NEED
TO STAY HOME.
>> Rosemary: THE OTHER PART OF
THIS THAT WE HAVE MENTIONED AND
I FEEL THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT
EVERY WEEK, BUT IT'S THE ONGOING
ISSUE AROUND DONALD TRUMP.
THIS WEEK SUGGESTING THAT THE
CANADA-U.S. BORDER COULD OPEN UP
QUICKLY.
AND TODAY, OF COURSE, LAYING OUT
A PLAN FOR GETTING THE UNITED
STATES BACK TO WORK EVEN THOUGH
THERE'S INDICATIONS IN MANY
PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT IS
NOWHERE NEAR HAPPENING EITHER.
SO THE PRESSURE THAT THE U.S. IS
OUR BIGGEST TRADING PARTNER PUTS
ON ALL OF THIS TOO, CHANTAL,
DOES WHAT -- WHETHER IT'S THE
BORDER OR IN TERMS OF HOW TO
MANAGE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
DONALD TRUMP.
>> I THINK THAT IT'S WISE TO LET
THE U.S. DYNAMICS PLAY
THEMSELVES OUT AS THEY HAVE THIS
WEEK.
IT'S ONE THING FOR DONALD TRUMP
TO DECLARE AND HE PROPOSES THAT
THE STATES DO THIS, AND I THINK
THAT THEY'RE SEEING SOME
EVIDENCE OF THAT TONIGHT IN THE
PLAN THAT UNFOLDED WHICH WAS NOT
THE WIDE OPEN -- THE ECONOMY DID
NOT GO BACK TO NORMAL AT EASTER.
SO I'M GUESSING THAT THE WISE
THING, AND CANADA'S GOVERNMENT
HAS BEEN DOING THAT, IS TO ALLOW
THE PRESIDENT TO TALK BUT THEN
TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH ADULTS.
>> Rosemary: IT DOES SEEM
THOUGH -- YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE TO WASTE A
LOT OF TIME TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WITH ADULTS AS
THEY ALL LET THE PRESIDENT TALK,
ANDREW.
>> WELL, AND SO I THINK THAT THE
FEELING IS THE SAME IN THE
UNITED STATES.
I MEAN, IN SOME WAYS HE IS NO
LONGER THE PRESIDENT.
WHEN YOU SEE THE WAYS IN WHICH
HIS OWN ADMINISTRATION, PEOPLE
SIMPLY DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO,
EVEN IF IT'S ENTIRELY CONTRARY
TO WHAT HE SAID.
WHEN YOU SEE STATES, FOR
EXAMPLE, FORMING PACTS AMONGST
THE STATES ON HOW TO PROCEED
EVEN AS THE PRESIDENT IS
BLUSTERING THAT I'M IN TOTAL
CONTROL HERE.
IF YOU HAVE TO SAY IT, THAT KIND
OF
INDICATES THAT YOU'RE NOT.
BUT, OBVIOUSLY, HE STILL
CONTROLS SOME THINGS AND THE
QUESTION OF INTERNATIONAL
BORDERS, THAT'S STILL
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO
NEGOTIATE WITH HIM.
BUT WE'RE NOT ABOUT TO OPEN UP
THE BORDERS ON OUR SIDE OF THE
BORDER ANYTIME SOON WHEN WE LOOK
AT THE UNITED STATES HAVING I
THINK 2.5 TIMES THE NUMBER OF
CASES PER CAPITA AND 3.5 TIMES
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS PER CAPITA.
AND DOUG FORD PUT IT BLUNTLY
THAT I DON'T WANT THEM HERE, BUT
CERTAINLY I THINK THAT PEOPLE
WANT TO BE VERY
CAREFUL BEFORE OPENING UP THE
BORDERS TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY,
WELL UNTIL WE HAVE THINGS NAILED
DOWN HERE FOR STARTERS.
AND UNTIL WE'RE READY TO -- TO
MONITOR AND SCREEN MUCH MORE
EFFECTIVELY ANYBODY WHO WE DO
LET INTO THE COUNTRY.
>> Rosemary: THAT BORDER
AGREEMENT EXPIRES IN THE
BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK, SO THERE
IS SOME PRESSURE TO REACH AN
AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
ALTHIA, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN
THERE?
>> WELL, I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK
THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS ARGUING
TO RE-OPEN THE BORDER.
I THINK THAT HE WAS ASKED A VERY
POINTED QUESTION BY A FRENCH
TELEVISION STATION REPORTER.
AND HE BASICALLY SAID ONLY THAT
CANADA WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST
BORDERS TO BE REOPENED.
SO FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IS
SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT HERE.
I THINK THAT THE MEDIA HAS RUN
AWAY WITH THIS AND SUGGESTING
THAT THERE'S CONFLICT WHEN THERE
ACTUALLY ISN'T.
>> Rosemary: I APPRECIATE IT.
AND BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO "AT
ISSUE" FOR EXTRA CONTENT THIS
WEEK.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION'S RESPONSE AND ITS
CALL FOR IN-PERSON SITTING OF
PARLIAMENT.
LOOK FOR IT ON ANY MAJOR PODCAST
APP AND ON OUR WEBSITE,
CBCNEWS.CA/THENATIONAL.
FOR NOW BACK TO ADRIENNE AND
ANDREW IN TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: FROM HEALTH
CONCERNS TO HOMESCHOOLING TO HOW
YOU WORK, WE'VE BEEN TAKING TIME
ON THE PROGRAMME EACH NIGHT TO
TAKE A LOOK AT HOW COVID-19 HAS
CHANGED YOUR LIFE.
IN TONIGHT'S PANDEMIC DIARY,
YOU'LL MEET RICK.
HE'S A LONG HAUL TRUCK DRIVER
WHO HAS A PLEA FOR THE
GOVERNMENT.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS RICK WITHER
AND I'M FROM MIRAMICHI, NEW
BRUNSWICK.
I AM A LONG HAUL TRUCK DRIVER
THAT TRAVELS TO AND FROM THE
U.S. ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
TRUCK DRIVERS ARE CONSIDERED TO
BE FRONTLINE WORKERS.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE LACK
OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE
TRUCKING INDUSTRY.
HAND SANITIZERS AND DISINFECTANT
WIPES AND MASKS AND RUBBER
GLOVES, THESE ARE THE THINGS
THAT WE NEED TO HELP US TO STAY
PROTECTED.
WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT IS THE
FACT THAT I POSSIBLY COULD BRING
THIS HOME TO MY FAMILY.
THERE'S DRIVERS OUT HERE THAT
HAVE NOT BEEN HOME SINCE THIS
COVID-19 CRISIS HAS STARTED.
THEY'RE AFRAID OF BRINGING THE
DISEASE HOME TO THEIR SPOUSES.
WHAT I'M REALLY HOPEFUL FOR IS
THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAKES IT
MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE
DRIVERS TO GET THESE ITEMS.
THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE
STILL WORKING, THE PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT IS VERY
ESSENTIAL.
>> Andrew: OKAY, STILL AHEAD
ON "THE NATIONAL," ON A LIGHTER
NOTE, HAIRCUT HORROR STORIES.
IT'S CALLED THE CORONA CUT,
MAYBE YOU HAVE ONE.
IF YOU DON'T YET, WE'VE GOT SOME
TIPS.
>>> FIRST, B.C.'S TOP DOCTORS
LEADING THE PROVINCE'S COVID
RESPONSE IN STYLE.
BONNIE HENRY'S STATEMENT
NECKLACES HAVE THEIR OWN TRIBUTE
PAGE.
AND NOW VANCOUVER-BASED DESIGNER
JOHN FLUEVOG IS RELEASING A
LIMITED EDITION
SHOE IN HER HONOUR.
THE INSIDE IS STAMPED WITH HER
DAILY REMINDER -- BE KIND, BE
CALM, BE SAFE.
FLUEVOG SAYS AT TIMES LIKE
THESE, WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO
HAVE
SOMEONE WHO IS CALM AND
COMFORTING BUT DIRECT AND
POSITIVE BUT REALISTIC,
INFORMING
AND EDUCATING US DAY-TO-DAY.
>> THEY'RE REALLY STRONG
CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR COMMUNITY TO
SO IT'S A SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR ME
TO WEAR HIS BEAUTIFUL SHOES.
>> Andrew: PRE-SALE PROFITS GO
TO FOOD BANKS B.C.
>> Andrew: OF ALL OF THE
IMAGES OF THIS PANDEMIC, THESE
ARE SOME OF THE STARKEST.
THEY TELL US HOW VICIOUSLY THE
VIRUS CAN STRIKE, BUT NOT ABOUT
THE LIVES IT'S STOLEN.
MORE THAN 1,200 IN CANADA SO
FAR.
THOSE STORIES ARE BETTER TOLD
LIKE THIS THROUGH THE FACES OF
THE VICTIMS AND THE MEMORIES OF
THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR SPOUSES
AND FRIENDS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WILL
TURN TO REMEMBER THE LIVES
LIVED LIKE 78-YEAR-OLD GARY
MONCTON.
HE SPENT THE LAST DAYS IN A
VANCOUVER LONG-TERM CARE HOME
BUT AS HIS DAUGHTER TELLS US,
THAT WAS JUST THE LAST STOP IN A
VERY FULL LIFE.
(*)
>> MY NAME IS SAMANGTSA MONCTON
AND I LOST MY DAD, GARY, TO
COVID-19 ON APRIL 2, 2020.
MY DAD WAS A PRETTY
REMARKABLE MAN IN SO MANY WAYS.
HE WAS BRIEND, AND HE TRAINED
FOR
PHYSIOTHERAPY IN ENGLAND AND
BECAME A DAMNED GOOD ONE AT
THAT.
AND MOVED TO CANADA WITH MOM IN
THE 1960s.
AND THEN SET UP A PRACTISE IN
OSHAWA.
HE WAS SO GOOD AT WHAT HE DID
THAT HE EVEN WORKED FOR THE
OSHAWA GENERALS FOR A BIT AND
EVEN TREATED BOBBY ORR.
AS GOOD AS HE WAS TO HIS JOB,
MUSIC WAS A PRETTY BIG DEAL TO
HIM AND TO US IN OUR FAMILY.
I KNEW WHEN DAD GOT COVID AND HE
HAD DEMENTIA AND THE CARE
HOME -- HE WAS IN ISOLATION, SO
I KNEW THAT MUSIC WOULD BE LIKE
THE BEST GIFT THAT I COULD GIVE
HIM.
SO I GRABBED MY TRUMPET AND I
WENT DOWN TO HARROD PARK AND
STOOD OUTSIDE AND PLAYED FOR HIM
ALL OF THE SONGS THAT HE USED TO
SING TO US WHEN WE WERE KIDS.
(*)
I KNEW THAT HE WAS LISTENING
BECAUSE THE NURSES HAD HIM ON
THE PHONE AND HE HAD A BIG SMILE 
ON HIS FACE.
AND HE EVEN TOLD ME
AT THE END THAT I DID A PRETTY
GOOD JOB.
I COULDN'T BE THERE WITH HIM AT
THE END, BUT IF I COULD SAY
SOMETHING TO HIM, WHAT WOULD I
HAVE SAID?
I GUESS THAT I WOULD HAVE SAID
DON'T DIE, I LOVE YOU.
AND NIGHT NIGHT.
>> Andrew: THOSE KINDS OF
STORIES ARE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.
AND THANK YOU, SAMANTHA, FOR
SHARING THAT ONE WITH US TO HELP
US TO SEE PAST THE STATISTICS,
THE DEATH TOLL OF THIS VIRUS AND
TO HELP US TO UNDERSTAND THE
REAL HUMAN LOSS.
AND WE DO PLAN ON BRINGING YOU
MORE OF THOSE IN THE DAYS AHEAD.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> Adrienne: SO COVID-19 POSES
SOME OBVIOUS PERSONAL GROOMING
PROBLEMS, INCLUDING SOCIAL
DISTANCING FROM YOUR STYLIST.
WHILE BAD HAIR GETS ALL TOO
CLOSE.
SO TONIGHT'S "MOMENT," THE
LENGTHS SOME ARE GOING TO
KEEP THEIR HAIR SHORT.
(*)
RESULTS ARE CHRONICLED UNDER
#CORONACUTS.
AS FAMILY MEMBERS, PARTNERS AND
DESPERATE MOPHEADS THEMSELVES
TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN
HANDS AS CBC NEWS' OWN CHRIS
GLOVER DISCOVERED.
>> OH, GOD!
>>> Adrienne: A SIMPLE BUZZ ON
THE SIDE --
>> THIS IS THE WORST HAIRCUT
I'VE EVER HAD!
>> Adrienne: WITH COVID-19
HAIR AT LEAST THE WORST IS
BEHIND US.
THE BACK, WELL THAT'S TRICKY.
THERE'S A REASON THAT WE PAY
PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
SO HERE'S SOME RAPID FIRE ADVICE
FROM AN EXPERT.
TIP ONE --
>> MAKE SURE THAT YOU FLAT IRON
YOUR HAIR FIRST.
USE A COMB, COMB IT STRAIGHT AND
CUT IT ACROSS.
DON'T GO OUTSIDE OF YOUR
EYEBROWS.
>> Adrienne: TIP TWO -- ROOTS.
>> YOU CAN BUY A TOUCH-UP KIT AT
THE DRUGSTORE AND TRY TO MATCH
UP WHAT YOUR NATURAL LEVEL IS AS
BEST AS YOU CAN.
>> Adrienne: TIP THREE, MAYBE
JUST DON'T.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE DO EMOTIONAL
HAIRCUTTING.
WHY DO YOU WANT TO CUT YOUR
HAIR RIGHT NOW?
IS THIS YOUR EMOTIONS?
OR, YOU KNOW, SHOULD YOU REALLY
BE DOING THIS.
>> Adrienne: A QUESTION FOR
MANY THAT CLEARLY WENT
UNASKED.
[laughter]
>> Andrew: AND SO MY GRAND
PLAN IS TO TRY TO CUT MY HAIR
THIS WEEKEND.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M
TERRIFIED OR NOT, BECAUSE IT
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GOING SO WELL
FOR SO MANY PEOPLE.
BUT, HEY, MAYBE THE BAR IS JUST
THAT LOW NOW.
[laughter]
>> Adrienne: OKAY, SO, YOU
KNOW, I THINK THAT YOUR HAIR
LOOKS FANTASTIC.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SHORT
HAIR AND IS INSIDE, I DON'T
REALLY FEEL
THAT SORRY FOR YOU.
HOWEVER, TO ALL OF THE STYLISTS
OUT THERE, WE LOVE YOU AND WE
MISS YOU AND BE PREPARED TO BE
VERY BUSY.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR
THURSDAY, APRIL 16th.
GOODNIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOODNIGHT.
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