.
STANDING BY FOR THE PRIME 
MINISTER'S UPDATE OUTSIDE HIS 
HOME, EXPECTING TO GET UNDERWAY 
IN 15 MINUTES' TIME, 11:15 
EASTERN.
HE IS EXPECTED TO ADDRESS THE 
GOVERNMENT'S EMERGENCY SUPPORT 
PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THE FUTURE 
OF THE CANADA EMERGENCY RESPONSE
BENEFIT, THE CERB.
ALSO, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 
PLANS TO POTENTIALLY IMPROVE AND
INCREASE THE UPTAKE ON THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY PROGRAM AND THE 
GOVERNMENT INTEREST-FREE LOAN 
FOR BUSINESSES.
LOTS ON THE GO FOR THE 
GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER TODAY, AS WELL AS ON 
THIS WEEK WEDNESDAY IS THE DAY 
THAT THE UNITED NATIONS WILL 
VOTE ON WHO WILL BECOME THE 
ROTATING MEMBER OF THE SECURITY 
COUNCIL.
IT'S A VOTE THAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME
PUSHING FOR BY TALKING TO 
VARIOUS WORLD LEADERS.
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER IS 
IN NEW YORK TO HELP WITH THAT 
PUSH.
LET ME BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES, 
THE HOST OF "POWER & POLITICS," 
VASSY KAPELOS, AND DAVID 
COCHRANE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.
LET'S START WITH YOU, VASSY.
>> Vassy: SURE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE 
TRYING TO ACCESS THE EMERGENCY 
BUSINESS LOAN.
BACK ON MAY 19, THE PRIME 
MINISTER ANNOUNCED THAT THE 
PARAMETERS, THE QUALIFICATIONS 
FOR QUALIFYING FOR THE LOAN 
WOULD BE EXPANDED, ESPECIALLY 
TARGETING PEOPLE WHO EITHER HAVE
A SOLE PROPRIETORSHIP OR USE 
CONTRACTORS OR PAY THEMSELVES OR
THEIR FAMILY WHO RUN THE 
BUSINESS THROUGH DIVIDENDS.
FINALLY, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE 
HAVE BEEN ANXIOUS TO HEAR SINCE 
THE MIDDLE OF MAY WHEN THAT 
APPLICATION WILL BE EXPANDED, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS YOU WILL BE 
ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THOSE NEW 
PARAMETERS BY THE END OF THE 
WEEK.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE PRIME 
MINISTER INDICATED THAT THEY 
WERE LOOKING AT HELPING OUT 
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT NEW 
BUSINESSES THAT HADN'T FILED TAX
RETURNS YET OR DIDN'T HAVE A 
BUSINESS ACCOUNT AT THAT POINT 
WOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WILL BE 
LOOPED INTO THE EXPANDED 
APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE'LL LISTEN TO THE PRIME 
MINISTER TO FIND OUT TODAY.
THE SECOND THING YOU TOUCH ON, 
ROSIE, AND WE HEARD THIS FROM 
JAGMEET SINGH.
THERE IS ANTICIPATE OF 
WEDNESDAY'S DRAMA WHERE THE 
GOVERNMENT WILL BE PUTTING 
SOME -- I WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS 
ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE SPENT AND 
WHAT THEY PLAN TO SPEND 
ESTIMATES OUT FOR VOTE.
IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT VOTE IN 
THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, BECAUSE IF
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T GET 
ENOUGH SUPPORT THEY COULD 
FOLLOW.
THAT'S THE EXTREME SCENARIO, BUT
WHAT WE HEARD FROM JAGMEET 
SINGH, THE LEADER OF THE N.D.P.,
IS HE HAS PREDICATED HIS SUPPORT
ON WHETHER OR NOT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT EXTENDS THE CERB.
THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ABOUT, 
ACCORDING TO JENNIFER ROBSON AT 
CARLETON UNIVERSITY, ABOUT 2 
MILLION CANADIANS.
2 MILLION OF THE 8 MILLION 
UNIQUE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE BEEN 
ACCESSING THE CERB WILL BE 
COMING UP AGAINST THE FOUR-MONTH
PERIOD THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR IN 
TWO WEEKS' TIME.
MR. SINGH HAS BEEN SAYING WE 
NEED SOMETHING TO SOFTEN THE 
BLOW.
THE UPTAKE HAS NOT BEEN WHAT THE
GOVERNMENT ANTICIPATED.
THAT CAN CHANGE AS ECONOMIES 
REOPEN.
WE ARE SEEING A BIG CHANGE IN 
ONTARIO, QUEBEC, AND MANY OTHER 
PROVINCES ALREADY OVER THE PAST 
FEW WEEKS, BUT REALLY THE UPTAKE
HASN'T BEEN THERE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CANADIANS,
MAYBE 2 MILLION IF NOT MORE, WHO
WOULD BE WITHOUT NECESSARY 
INCOME SUPPORT.
THE N.D.P. SAID WE'LL ONLY 
SUPPORT YOU ON WEDNESDAY IF YOU 
EXTEND THE CERB.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WILL 
BE A HINT OF THAT, THROE THE 
DETAILS ARE STILL BEING 
NEGOTIATED.
FROM THE GOVERNMENT'S 
PERSPECTIVE WHAT I'M TOLD IS THE
WAGE SUBSIDY PROGRAM IS AN 
ISSUE.
THEY NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THE 
UPTAKE IS LIKE, BUT THEY ARE 
LOOKING AT E.I. AND 
TRANSITIONING PEOPLE FROM THE 
CERB TO E.I.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FOR SURE KNOW
HOW MANY PEOPLE AT THIS POINT OR
EXACTLY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, 
THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROCESS IN 
AND OF ITSELF.
IT'S NOT LIKE TOMORROW ALL THOSE
2 MILLION CANADIANS COULD 
TRANSFER TO E.I.
SO THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME 
SORT OF EXTENSION. 
>> Rosemary: IF WE HEAR 
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FROM THE 
PRIME MINISTER, AND I KNOW YOU 
WANT TO GET IN ON, DAVID, BUT 
THAT WOULD SPEAK TO THE NEEDS OF
CANADIANS AND THIS ISSUE, THIS 
STANDOFF, IN TERMS OF 
PARLIAMENTARY VOTES ON 
WEDNESDAY.
JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE ON THE 
WAGE SUBSIDY IN TERMS OF THE 
UPTAKE, IT IS RELATIVELY SMALL 
IN TERMS OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT 
HAD EXPECTED THE LAST TIME THEY 
UPDATED THAT, IT PAID OUT $10 
BILLION, WHICH IS NOWHERE NEAR 
THE $73 BILLION THEY HAD 
EXPECTED, DAVID.
PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS
OBVIOUSLY SOME COMPANIES NOT 
USING IT YET I GUESS OR MAYBE 
WE'LL GET SOME UPDATED NUMBERS 
THIS WEEK AND IT WILL BE BETTER 
REFLECTED, BUT THE GOVERNMENT 
TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OFF THAT 
EMERGENCY RELIEF AND BACK INTO 
THE WORKFORCE IF THEIR COMPANIES
ARE READY. 
>> David: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET FROM 
THE PRIME MINISTER IS AN 
INDICATION THAT THE CERB WILL BE
EXTENDED.
I THINK THAT IS AN 
INEVITABILITY, ESPECIALLY WITH 
THE N.D.P. SAYING THEY NEED THAT
TO VOTED IN FAVOUR OF THE 
ESTIMATES.
IT'S GOOD FAITH TO WIN PEOPLE'S 
COOPERATION FOR THAT.
THE DETAILS WILL COME LATER IN 
THE WEEK.
THE SPENDING ON THE WAGE SUBSIDY
HAS BEEN LOW.
THIS SPEAKS TO THE REAL 
CHALLENGE IN THE WAY THE COUNTRY
IS RESPONDING TO THE COVID-19 
CORONAVIRUS IN THAT WAY, IN THAT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DINING
THE AID PROGRAMS AND PAYING THE 
BILLS, BUT IT IS THE PROVINCES 
WHO ARE DICTATING THE OPENING.
WHILE THEY WANT A NATIONAL 
PROGRAM, BUSINESSES WON'T 
NECESSARILY TAKE THEM UP ON IT.
IT WAS ONLY FRIDAY YOU COULD 
ACIDITY ON A PATIO AND HAVE A 
BEER IN OTTAWA.
WHY WOULD THAT BAR REOPEN AND 
TAKE ON THE BURDEN OF MANAGING 
THAT AND EAT UP SOME OF ITS 
SUBSIDY TIME.
WITH THE REOPEN, THE HOPE IS 
MORE PEOPLE WILL SIGN UP FOR 
THIS.
A LOT OF THIS IS RETROACTIVE.
YOU WILL SEE THAT NUMBER SPIKE 
CONSIDERABLY ONCE IT HAPPENED.
THIS IS THE CHALLENGE NOW IS 
EXTENDING CERB BECAUSE THE 
ECONOMY JUST ISN'T AT A POINT 
WHERE EVERYBODY CAN GO BACK TO 
WORK.
THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY TO 
TRANSFER THE CERB INTO 
EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IF NOT 
EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE DIRECTLY, 
WITH A REGIONAL FOCUS WHERE 
BENEFITS AND ELIGIBILITY VARY 
DEPENDING ON HOW THE PANDEMIC 
LOOKS IN YOUR PARTICULAR PART OF
THE COUNTRY AND THEY NEED THE 
WAGE SUBSIDY TO TAKE OFF.
IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PRIME 
MINISTER, IT'S ALMOST A TONE OF 
PLEADING AND BEGGING COMPANIES 
TO SIGN UP.
THEY NEED THIS TO WORK AND 
THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY A 
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE 
NATIONAL PAYROLL.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE UPTAKE 
THEY WERE HOPING FOR AND WE'LL 
SEE THAT PLEADING LANGUAGE FROM 
THE PRIME MINISTER TODAY. 
>> Rosemary: ON FRIDAY YOU COULD
ALSO GET YOUR HAIRCUT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WONDER IF 
ANYONE'S HAD THEIR HAIRCUT.
IT'S NOT DAVID AND NOT ME.
>> David: I GOT MINE YESTERDAY.
THERE'S NEVER A BETTER TIME TO 
BE A BALD MAN IN THE PANDEMIC.
>> Rosemary: WE'LL SEE IF THE 
PRIME MINISTER JOINED EVERYONE 
ELSE GETTING THEIR HOW ARE YOU 
CUT.
I WILL JOIN YOU AGAIN AS WE WAIT
FOR THE PRIME MINISTER.
ANOTHER THING PEOPLE ARE 
SPEAKING ABOUT OVER THE COURSE 
OF THE WEEKEND IS THE CASES 
RISING IN THE UNITED STATES, 
EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A 
REOPENING.
I SPOKE WITH DR. ANTHONY FAUCI 
ABOUT THIS.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 
REOPENING IN THE UNITED STATES 
BECAUSE IN THE PAST WEEK OR SO 
WE HAVE SEEN INCREASES IN CASES.
DOES THAT TELL YOU THE REOPENING
IS HAPPENING TOO QUICKLY?
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT 
THAT?
>> Interview: WHENEVER YOU START
TO REOPEN OR GET TO SOME DEGREE 
OF WHAT WE CALL NORMALITY, THERE
WILL BE INCREASE IN CASES.
THE INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT 
THING IS TO IDENTIFY, ISOLATE, 
AND CONTRACT TRACE SO YOU CAN 
BLUNT THOSE BLIPS AND PREVENT 
THEM FROM BEING TRUE REBOUNDS OF
INFECTION.
YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE SEEING 
APPEARANCE OF ADDITIONAL 
INFECTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THE 
AREAS THAT ARE OPENING.
IF WE HANDLE THEM WELL, WE COULD
BE OKAY.
IF NOT, THEN WE REALLY HAVE A 
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU MENTIONED 
ABOUT SOME STATES NOW HAVING AN 
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES 
MAKES ONE PAUSE AND BE A LITTLE 
BIT CONCERNED.
>> Rosemary: FOR MORE ON THIS 
I'M JOINED BY DR. ISAAC BOGOCH, 
AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST
AT TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE 
TIME.
I WANT TO START ON A BIT OF NEWS
OUT OF QUEBEC.
IN QUEBEC, THEY HAVE DECIDED TO 
DECREASE THE PHYSICAL DISTANCE 
SPACE.
THE REST OF US ARE DOING TWO 
METRES, BUT IN QUEBEC THEY SAY 
YOU CAN MOVE TO 1.5 METRES AND 
IF YOU'RE UNDER 16, ONE METRE.
THIS STRIKES ME AS CURIOUS AND 
NOT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE 
SCIENCE TO BE.
TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.
>> Isaac Bogoch: I THINK IT 
CONFUSES MATTER.
IT'S EASY TO HAVE A TWO METRES 
ACROSS THE BOARD.
IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES IT'S 
ONE AND A HALF METRES.
WE SHOULD JUST TAKE A 
CANADA-WIDE APPROACH AND MAKE IT
TWO METRES.
IT MAKES IT EASILY 
UNDERSTANDABLE AND NO AMBIGUITY.
I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT 
APPROACH.
>> Rosemary: I MUST WHAT THE 
EXTRA HALF A METRE GETS PEOPLE 
IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
WE'LL DIG INTO THAT OVER THE 
DAY.
GOING BACK TO WHAT DR. FAUCI WAS
SAYING AND WHAT I SPENT MY 
WEEKEND READING ABOUT IS THIS 
SPIKE IN CASES IN THE SOUTHERN 
UNITED STATES, FLORIDA, TEXAS, 
CALIFORNIA, ARKANSAS, OKLAHOMA, 
ALSO SOME CONCERNS IN THE STATE 
OF NEW YORK FROM THE GOVERNOR 
THERE.
WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE OF THIS?
>> Isaac Bogoch: IT'S VERY 
CONCERNING.
IT'S VERY CONCERNING IF WE LOOK 
AT THE EPIDEMIOLOGIC STATE OF 
THESE SOUTHERN STATES, WE SEE 
THEM HEADED IN THE WRONG 
DIRECTION.
I KNOW DR. FAUCI WAS BEING A 
LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE WHEN HE 
WAS DISCUSSING THIS.
WHEN WE SEE FLORIDA HAVING 2,500
NEW INFECTIONS OR ARIZONA HAVING
SO MANY NEW INFECTIONS.
WHEN WE ARE SEEING A RAPID CASE 
COUNT, IT GIVES PAUSE FOR 
CONCERN.
PEOPLE DON'T STAY STATIONARY.
IF WE OPEN UP OUR BORDER, WE CAN
IMPORT THOSE CASES AND UNDO ALL 
THE HARD WORK WE DID BEFORE.
THIS IS VERY CONCERNING.
>> Rosemary: IN FLORIDA THEY'VE 
SHUT DOWN ALL THE BARS AND 
PATIOS, WHICH IS WHAT WE MOVED 
TOWARDS HERE IN ONTARIO OVER THE
WEEKEND.
DOES IT SUGGEST ANYTHING TO YOU 
ABOUT THE PACE OF REOPENING, 
THAT WE COULD TAKE, THAT CANADA 
COULD LOOK AT AS A MESSAGE AS 
WELL?
>> Isaac Bogoch: ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE TAKEN A PRETTY SLOW 
APPROACH TO REOPENING.
AND I THINK GENERALLY ACROSS THE
BOARD WE'VE BEEN RATHER CAREFUL 
AND MEASURED ABOUT HOW THIS IS 
BEING DONE.
I ALSO LIKE HOW WE HAVE SEEN 
DIFFERENT REOPENING PACES EVEN 
IN THE PROVINCES.
IN ALBERTA, CALGARY AND BROOKS 
WERE LEFT BEHIND WHILE THEY HAD 
TO DEAL WITH THEIR UNDERLYING 
EPIDEMIC THIS.
IN ONTARIO, PARTS OF THE G.T.A. 
AND WINDSOR WERE LEFT BEHIND.
I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE 
STRATEGY TO TAKE.
CERTAINLY IT APPEARS THINGS ARE 
GETTING UNDER BETTER CONTROL AS 
MANY OF THE HARDER-HIT PARTS OF 
CANADA.
WE'RE DOING RELATIVELY WELL.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BUMPS ON 
THE ROAD.
OUR REOPENING HAS BEEN SLOW.
DR. FAUCI ALSO POINTED OUT YOU 
NEED TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE 
IN PLACE TO RAPIDLY IDENTIFY 
CASES IF THEY MERGE, SO YOU CAN 
QUELL THEM SO THEY DON'T TURN 
INTO A BIG OUTBREAK.
WE HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN 
MOST PLACES HERE.
>> Rosemary: IT'S NOT BECAUSE 
THERE IS MORE TESTING, IT'S 
COMMUNITY SPREAD.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE IN MANY 
OF THE STATES.
IT ALSO SPEAKS TO AN INCREASE IN
HOSPITALIZATIONS.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE 
TESTING AND MORE TESTING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD 
QUALIFY IT.
IT'S NOT A SECOND WAVE, BUT 
SOMETHING IS GOING ON, IT'S FAIR
TO SAY, IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> Isaac Bogoch: ABSOLUTELY, 
ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE KEEP HEARING SOME OF THE 
EPIDEMIOLOGISTS TALK ABOUT A 
SPIKE IN THE FIRST WAVE OR A 
SECOND WAVE.
I THINK IT'S IRRELEVANT.
IT'S A GREATER NUMBER CASES THAT
HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AS YOU POINT OUT, THIS IS NOT A 
TREND OR FROM INCREASED TESTING.
ARIZONA IS RUNNING OUT OF I.C.U.
CAPACITY.
THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE 
EDGE IN SEVERAL OF THESE PLACES.
IT'S NICE TO SEE PLACES LIKE 
FLORIDA TAKING MEASURES TO CURB 
THE SPREAD OF THE INFECTION.
THESE ARE THE TYPES OF 
SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE THAT 
DEGREE OF COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION
WHERE YOU NEED BIGGER PUBLIC 
HEALTH INTERVENTIONS TO KEEP 
THIS UNDER CONTROL AND AT A TIME
WHEN THEY'RE CONSIDERING 
REOPENING, THIS SHOULD BE DONE 
IN A MEASURED MANNER WITH THE 
APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE IN 
PLACE SO THEY CAN QUELL 
OUTBREAKS.
IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WAS BEING
DONE AND THEY PROBABLY OPENED 
TOO SOON AND TOO FAST.
>> Rosemary: I WANT TO ASK YOU 
ABOUT MASKS.
I NOTICED ANECDOTALLY OVER THE 
WEEKEND FEWER PEOPLE IN STORES 
AND PLACES WEARING THEM AND 
CERTAINLY ON TWITTER THERE WERE 
LOTS OF PEOPLE SPEAKING ABOUT 
IT.
CAN YOU REMIND PEOPLE WHAT IS 
THE DEAL ON MASK AND WHY PUBLIC 
HEALTH OFFICIALS WANT YOU TO 
WEAR THEM.
>> Isaac Bogoch: IN PLACES WHERE
YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO 
PRACTICE PHYSICAL DISTANCING, IN
A GROCERY STORE OR IN AN OFFICE 
BUILDING, YOU CAN'T SPREAD APART
BY TWO METRES, WHERE YOU WILL 
HAVE PROLONGED EXPOSURE, PUT A 
MASK ON.
WE CAN REDUCE THE SPREAD IF A 
MASK IS WORN.
YOU CAN HELP PREVENT THE 
TRANSMISSION IN COMMUNITY 
SETTINGS.
IF YOU'RE GOING INSIDE AND 
YOU'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO 
OTHER PEOPLE OR YOU'RE NOT SURE 
IF YOU WILL, PUT A MASK ON TO 
HELP CURB THE SPREAD OF THE 
VIRUS. 
>> Rosemary: DR. ISAAC BOGOCH, I
HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO YOU A WHILE.
I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME FOR
US.
THAT WAS DR. ISAAC BOGOCH, AN 
INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST AT
TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL.
THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN 
CASES IN THE UNITED STATES, 
INCREASE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS 
TOO, WHICH LEADS US TO BELIEVE 
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE IS 
MORE TESTING, BUT COMMUNITY 
SPREAD.
WE ARE EXPECTING THE PRIME 
MINISTER TO TALK ABOUT THE 
EMERGENCY BUSINESS LOAN THAT IS 
AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESSES, BUT 
POTENTIALLY AS DAVID AND VASSY 
HAD BEEN REPORTING TO GIVE US 
MORE INFORMATION WHAT IS 
HAPPENING TO THE EMERGENCY 
RELIEF BENEFIT, CERB, WHICH SO 
MANY USED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF 
THIS PANDEMIC.
IT IS COMING, IF YOU STARTED 
USING IT FOUR WEEKS AGO, IT IS 
COMING TO AN END.
MANY ARE WONDERING WHAT WILL 
HAPPEN IF THERE ARE NO JOBS TO 
RETURN TO.
LET'S BRING BACK VASSY AND 
DAVID.
I'M SURE HE'LL COME OUT AS SOON 
AS I BRING YOU BACK.
VASSY, I THINK YOU TALKED TO 
DR. BOGOCH LAST WEEK -- THERE HE
IS.
HE MIGHT DO THAT ON PURPOSE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AFTER.
HERE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF 
CANADA ON THIS MONDAY MORNING 
WITH HIS DAILY UPDATE.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WHETHER IT'S TO COVER 
THE BILLS, TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE
PAYROLL OR MAKE RENT ON A 
STOREFRONT, MANY CANADIANS NEED 
A HAND RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE BROUGHT IN PROGRAMS THAT
ARE MEANT TO HELP.
TAKE THE WAGE SUBSIDY AND WHAT 
IT MEANS FOR ERILINE IN 
OAKVILLE.
THIS FAMILY HAD TO CLOSE AND LAY
OFF STAFF.
IT WAS A TOUGH SPRING.
WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY, THEY WERE ABLE TO 
REHIRE THEIR ENTIRE TEAM.
THAT MATTERS TO THE 22 PEOPLE 
WHO NOW HAVE THEIR PAYCHEQUE 
AGAIN.
TO ALL EMPLOYERS, PLEASE USE THE
WAGE SUBSIDY IF YOU HAVEN'T 
ALREADY.
THIS HELP IS DESIGNED FOR YOU 
AND YOUR EMPLOYEES AND IF YOU 
NEED MORE SUPPORT, APPLY FOR THE
CANADA EMERGENCY BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT.
ON THE CEBA IN PARTICULAR, I 
WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE 
EXPANDED THE ELIGIBILITY ON THIS
PROGRAM TO INCLUDE MORE SMALL 
BUSINESSES LIKE FARMERS.
THE NEW APPLICATION PROCESS WILL
OPEN ON FRIDAY AND IN THE COMING
DAYS WE WILL HAVE MORE 
INFORMATION TO SHARE.
FOR NOW YOU CAN GO TO edc.ca FOR
INFORMATION AND THE DOCUMENTS 
YOU NEED TO APPLY.
IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THINGS 
HAVE STARTED TO LOOK UP FOR A 
LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THAT SAID, 
FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE 
STRUGGLING.
IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING
A JOB, YOU SHOULDN'T WORRY IF 
YOU'RE GOING TO HIT YOUR LIMIT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO 
EXTEND THE BENEFIT FOR PEOPLE 
WHO CAN'T RETURN TO WORK.
WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS LATER, 
BUT FOR TODAY WE'LL CONTINUE TO 
BE THERE FOR YOU AND YOUR 
FAMILY.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] IN RECENT WEEKS, 
THINGS HAVE STARTED TO IMPROVE 
FOR MANY PEOPLE.
HAVING SAID THAT, WE KNOW THAT 
FAR TOO MANY CANADIANS ARE 
HAVING TROUBLE AT THIS TIME.
IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING
A JOB, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO 
WORRY ABOUT RUNNING OUT OF 
BENEFITS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR A 
SOLUTION IN ORDER TO EXTEND THE 
BENEFIT PERIOD FOR PEOPLE WHO 
ARE UNABLE TO RETURN TO WORK NOW
BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL DETAILS 
FOR YOU THIS WEEK, BUT FOR THE 
TIME BEING, I WANT YOU TO KNOW 
THAT WE WILL BE THERE FOR YOU 
AND YOUR FAMILY.
IN THAT CONNECTION, I ALSO WANT 
TO AT THAT MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE 
ALL THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO HAVE
BEEN WORKING VERY HARD FOR WEEKS
TO ENSURE CANADIANS CAN RECEIVE 
THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT 
AND THE EMERGENCY WAGE SUBSIDY.
THIS IS NATIONAL PUBLIC SERVANTS
WEEK.
[end of translation] I WANT TO 
THANK ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO 
WORK INCREDIBLY HARD TO GET 
CANADIANS THE HELP THEY NEED, 
ESPECIALLY RECENTLY THEY HAVE 
DONE A REMARKABLE JOB FOR THEIR 
FELLOW CANADIANS.
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT
THIS SPRING WOULD HAVE TURNED 
OUT THE WAY THAT IT DID.
CERTAINLY FOR FARMERS WHO KEEP 
OUR GROCERY STORES STOCKED AND 
OUR FAMILIES FED, IT'S BEEN AN 
UNEXPECTEDLY CHALLENGING FEW 
MONTHS.
WITH RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS 
CLOSED FOR WEEKS, MANY PRODUCERS
WERE LEFT WITH EXTRA FOOD THEY 
COULDN'T SELL.
FARMERS WORK HARD TO RAISE THEIR
LIVESTOCK AND GROW THEIR CROPS.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN A POSITION 
WHERE THEY SEE THAT WASTED.
THAT'S WHY TODAY WE ARE OPENING 
APPLICATIONS FOR THE SURPLUS 
FOOD RESCUE PROGRAM.
THIS WILL HELP GET FOOD THEY 
CAN'T SELL, SEAFOOD, POULTRY AND
OTHERWISE TO COMMUNITIES THAT 
NEED IT.
PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL 
BENEFIT, INCLUDING IN REMOTE 
NORTHERN COMMUNITIES.
THIS IS A WIN-WIN.
FARMERS WILL HAVE PEOPLE TO BUY 
THEIR GOODS AND FOOD WILL GET TO
THE PLATES OF FAMILIES WHO 
WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OTHERWISE.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] TODAY WE ARE 
OPENING THE APPLICATION FOR THE 
SURPLUS FOOD PROGRAM.
BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, MANY 
PRODUCERS ARE NOT ABLE TO SELL 
PART OF THEIR PRODUCE.
THEY WORK HARD TO GROW THEIR 
CROPS AND IT WOULD BE TOO BAD TO
WASTE THAT FOOD.
UNDER THAT PROGRAM, WE WILL BE 
BUYING THAT SURPLUS FOOD TO 
DISTRIBUTE IT TO PEOPLE WHO NEED
IT.
THIS IS A WIN-WIN SOLUTION.
FARMERS HAVE A MARKET FOR THEIR 
PRODUCTS.
[end of translation] IN MANY 
WAYS COVID-19 IS A CHALLENGE 
LIKE WE'VE NEVER DEALT WITH 
BEFORE, BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T 
THE ONLY TEST WE'RE FACING.
IN AN INCREASINGLY COMPLEX AND 
INTERCONNECTED WORLD WE NEED TO 
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO KEEP 
PEOPLE SAFE AND TO SHAPE THE 
FUTURE FOR THE BETTER.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE HAS THE 
POTENTIAL TO BE AN INCREDIBLY 
POWERFUL FORCE FOR GOOD, BUT IT 
MUST BE USED RESPONSIBLY AND 
ETHICALLY.
CANADA IS LEADING THE WAY 
FORWARD.
TODAY AS ONE OF 13 FOUNDING 
MEMBERS, CANADA HELPED LAUNCH 
THE GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP ON 
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
AS PART OF THIS INITIAL, WE HAVE
WORKED WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF 
QUEBEC TO SET UP A CENTRE FOR 
EXPERTISE WHICH WILL BE ONE OF 
THE TWO GLOBAL HUBS.
THIS IS HOME OF SOME OF THE MOST
INNOVATIVE PEOPLE.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] TODAY CANADA IS 
PARTICIPATING IN THE LAUNCH OF 
THE GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP ON 
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AS ONE 
OF THE 13 FOUNDING MEMBERS.
UNDER THIS INITIATIVE, WE HAVE 
ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE 
GOVERNMENT OF QUEBEC TO CREATE 
IN MONTREAL ONE OF THE TWO 
CENTRES OF EXPERTISE THAT ARE 
PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
CANADIANS ARE AMONG THE MOST 
INNOVATIVE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD 
AND ARE PIONEERS IN MANY 
TECHNOLOGIES RELATED TO A.I.
WE WANT TO MAKE USE OF THAT 
EXPERTISE.
[end of translation] EARLIER 
THIS MORNING I JOINED MINISTER 
NG ON TRADE, SAFEGUARDING 
INTERNATIONAL SUPPLY CHAINS, AND
ON BUILDING A GLOBAL ECONOMY 
THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
NOW, MORE THAN EVER, IT IS VITAL
THAT WE COLLABORATE ACROSS 
BORDERS TO KEEP OUR ECONOMIES 
STRONG AND OUR CITIZENS SAFE.
THIS PANDEMIC IS A GLOBAL CRISIS
AND IT REQUIRES GLOBAL 
SOLUTIONS.
IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FROM 
THE UNITED NATIONS, I CAN ALSO 
ANNOUNCE THAT CANADA WILL 
PROVIDE AIR-LIFT SUPPORT FOR 
URGENTLY NEEDED MEDICAL AND 
HUMANITARIAN SUPPLIES.
THROUGH THIS MISSION, WE WILL BE
DELIVERING HELP TO SOME OF THE 
WORLD'S MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] THIS MORNING I 
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO UNDERSCORE 
THAT TODAY IS WORLD ELDER ABUSE 
AWARENESS DAY.
OUR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AND 
SENIORS BUILT OUR COUNTRY.
WE HAVE TO PROTECT THEM AND MAKE
SURE THEY RECEIVE THE CARE THEY 
DESERVE.
WHETHER YOU DECIDE TO CALL YOUR 
GRANDPARENTS OR TO GET SOME NEWS
FROM YOUR NEIGHBOURS, WE CAN ALL
DO OUR PART.
IN MY RIDING OF PAPINEAU, THE 
M.E. IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF 
PREVENTING ABUSE OF ELDERS 
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ALL THOSE 
WORKING IN SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR
SENIORS.
TODAY AND EVERY SINGLE DAY WE 
HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE 
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF 
CANADIANS OF ALL AGES.
[end of translation] OUR 
PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AND OUR 
ELDERS BUILT THIS COUNTRY, AND 
WE ALL HAVE A PART TO PLAY IN 
KEEPING THEM SAFE.
ON THAT NOTE, LET ME GIVE A 
SHOUT OUT TO THE ROGERS 
FOUNDATION FOR THEIR $60 MILLION
DONATION TO HELP THOSE MOST 
VULNERABLE IN THIS PANDEMIC.
I KNOW THIS INITIATIVE WILL HAVE
AN IMPACT ON MANY PEOPLES' 
LIVES.
SPEAKING OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE, I WANT TO END BY 
MENTIONING THE TROOPS THAT 
ARRIVED IN UKRAINE TO RESUME 
THEIR MISSION, THE WORK TO BUILD
A MORE SECURE COUNTRY IS 
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
I KNOW ALL CANADIANS WILL BE 
THINKING OF THESE BRAVE WOMEN 
AND CHILDREN IN UNIFORM AS THEY 
SERVE OVERSEAS.
>> Operator: [SPEAKING FRENCH]>>
Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] 
MR. TRUDEAU, ARE YOU READY TO 
MAKE A FIRM COMMITMENT ON THE 
EXTENSION OF THE CERB FOR PEOPLE
WHO NEED IT.
I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE MORE 
INFORMATION THIS WEEK, BUT CAN 
YOU CONFIRM IT WILL BE EXTENDED 
IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER?
>> Answer: I CAN REASSURE 
CANADIANS RIGHT ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY THAT AS I SAID AT THE 
OUTSET, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE 
THERE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP 
AND WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING 
FURTHER DETAILS THIS WEEK.
>> Operator: FOLLOW UP, 
MICHELLE.
>> Question: NO EXTENSION THAT 
LEADS TO NO FIRM COMMITMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING 
ELSE.
THERE WERE SOME DEMONSTRATIONS 
AGAINST BILL 21 YESTERDAY AND 
WITH RESPECT TO FIGHTING 
SYSTEMIC RACISM, YOU PROMISED TO
DO BETTER.
ARE YOU CONSIDERING THE 
POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING YOUR 
APPROACH AND INTERVENING SUCH AS
AGAINST BILL 21 THAT SOME PEOPLE
CONSIDER TO BE PART AND PARCEL 
OF RACISM IN OUR INSTITUTIONS?
>> Answer: MY POSITION ON THAT 
HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR QUITE SOME 
TIME, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY 
LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT 
QUEBECERS THEMSELVES ARE 
DEMONSTRATING AGAINST THAT 
LEGISLATION AND WE HAVE A LEGAL 
SYSTEM THAT CONTINUES TO DO ITS 
WORK.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR 
THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
[end of translation]. 
>> Operator: NEXT QUESTION KATE 
BONGERO, "BLOOMBERG."
LINE OPEN. 
>> Question: HELLO, MR. TRUDEAU.
I CAN HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT 
IMMIGRATION TARGETS.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW THE 
DOWN FLOW WILL AFFECT 
IMMIGRATION OVER THE NEXT TWO 
YEARS?
>> Answer: WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S 
BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE 
VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE COME TO 
CANADA.
WE'VE CLOSED THE BORDERS DUE TO 
COVID-19, AND THAT'S HAD AN 
IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF 
IMMIGRANTS ARRIVING IN CANADA.
CANADA CONTINUES TO BE A COUNTRY
THAT KNOWS THAT IMMIGRATION IS 
AN ESSENTIAL SOURCE OF GROWTH, 
PROPERTY, OPPORTUNITY, BOTH FOR 
CANADIANS AND THOSE ARRIVING IN 
THIS COUNTRY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
BE A STRONG COUNTRY IN REGARDS 
TO IMMIGRATION.
WE WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY ON THAT
OBVIOUSLY AS OUR COUNTRY BEGINS 
TO REOPEN, BUT WE ARE STILL VERY
MUCH IN THE CLOSED PHASE OF THE 
PANDEMIC RESPONSE.
>> FOLLOWING UP.
>> Question: SMALL BUSINESSES 
SAY THE RENTAL SUBSIDY ISN'T 
BEING USED BECAUSE LANDLORDS 
WON'T APPLY FOR IT.
HOW IS YOUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO 
DEAL WITH THIS AND INCREASE THE 
UPTAKE?
>> Answer: WE HAVE BEEN 
IMPRESSING ON THE PROVINCES THE 
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 
EVICTION BANS.
THIS IS WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT WHEN
WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE 
COMMERCIAL RENT SUBSIDY.
WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PROVINCES
MOVE FORWARD ON IT, BUT WE KNOW 
MORE PROVINCES NEED TO STEP UP.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THE 
PROVINCES GET TO MAKE THE RULES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T 
HAVE THE LEVERS IN REGARDS TO 
LANDLORDS.
BUT I HOPE MORE PROVINCES WILL 
UNDERSTAND AN EVICTIONS BAN IS 
THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] WE POINTED OUT THE 
NEED TO PREVENT EVICTIONS AS 
PART OF THE COMMERCIAL RENT 
SUBSIDY PROGRAM, BUT THE 
PROVINCES MUST BRING IN THEIR 
OWN RULES AND LEGISLATION.
SOME HAVE AND WE HOPE ALL WILL 
DO THAT.
[end of translation]. 
>> Operator: NEXT QUESTION BRIAN
LILY, "TORONTO SUN."
>> Question: GOOD MORNING, PRIME
MINISTER.
YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CANADA
NEEDING TO DO BETTER AND 
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAST WHEN IT 
COMES TO ISSUES AROUND RACE.
YOUR PARTY'S PRIMARY FUNDRAISING
CLUB IS CALLED THE LAURIER CLUB.
I WONDER GIVEN LAURIER'S HISTORY
WITH CHINA AND SIGNING AN 
ORDER-IN-COUNCIL BANNING BLACK 
IMMIGRATION.
WILL YOU CHANGE THE NAME OF THE 
LAURIER CLUB? 
>> Answer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
QUESTION, BRIAN.
OBVIOUSLY WE RECOGNIZE THAT OVER
THE PAST DECADES AND GENERATIONS
CANADA HAS NOT DONE WELL ENOUGH.
I APOLOGIZED IN THE HOUSE FOR 
THE KAMAGATARU.
WE'VE MADE A DIRECT 
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE VERY, 
VERY MANY MISTAKES CANADA HAS 
MADE IN THE PAST.
THOSE MISTAKES CONTINUE TODAY 
WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT 
CONTINUES.
WE NEED TO TAKE CONCRETE 
MEASURES TO MOVE FORWARD TO 
CHANGE THE SYSTEMS, TO IMPROVE 
THE SYSTEMS, TO BETTER SUPPORT 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS AND 
INDIGENOUS CANADIANS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS
ON.
THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS AROUND 
NAMES OF SPORTS TEAMS, AROUND 
STATUES AND HOW WE COMMEMORATE 
HISTORICAL FIGURES.
THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE 
IMPORTANT AND WILL CONTINUE.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] I THINK CANADA HAS 
TO DO BETTER.
THAT IS CLEAR WHEN IT COMES TO 
FIGHTING SYSTEMIC RACISM.
OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY 
EVENTS IN OUR PAST FOR WHICH WE 
HAVE APOLOGIZED AND WE HAVE 
PLEDGED TO DO BETTER.
WE STILL SEE WE HAVE SYSTEMS IN 
PLACE THAT DO NOT PROPERLY TREAT
ALL CANADIANS, PARTICULARLY 
INDIGENOUS CANADIANS AND 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS.
THAT'S WHY WE WILL WORK VERY 
HARD TO IMPROVE OUR SYSTEMS.
NOW, WITH RESPECT TO LOOKING AT 
THE NAMES OF SPORTS TEAMS OR THE
PRESENCE OF STATUES OR THE NAMES
OF BUILDINGS, THERE ARE VERY 
IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE 
TO TAKE PLACE AMONG CANADIANS ON
THAT.
WE WILL BE LISTENING TO 
CANADIANS WITH CONCERNS.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: I'D LIKE TO HEAR 
SPECIFICALLY FROM YOU, PRIME 
MINISTER, HOW FAR BACK DO YOU 
THINK YOU HAVE TO GO?
WHAT IS THE CUT OFF?
IS IT OWNING SLAVES LIKE JAMES 
McGILL, THE PERSON YOUR ALMA 
MATER IS NAMED FOR?
IS IT HOLDING VIEWS THAT ARE 200
YEARS OLD.
WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE SAYING
THIS NEEDS TO BE RENAMED AND 
THAT DOESN'T?
>> Answer: I THINK FIRST OF ALL 
IT'S A SIGN OF PROGRESS THAT 
THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH FROM
100 YEARS AGO, 200 YEARS AGO IN 
SO MANY WAYS.
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED 
AS A SOCIETY AND THERE IS STILL 
MUCH MORE TO DO.
I THINK ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS 
HAS TO BE DISCUSSED ON A 
CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
I THINK THERE WILL BE A RANGE OF
VIEWS ON ANY ISSUE.
WE NEED TO LISTEN CAREFULLY AND 
WITH A LOT OF SENSITIVITY ON 
CONCERNS OF WHAT WE'RE RENAMING,
WHAT WE CONTINUE TO USE AS 
LEARNING LESSONS FOR FUTURE 
GENERATIONS.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] I THINK WE HAVE A 
DUTY TO ADDRESS THESE DIFFICULT 
ISSUES ON A CASE-BY-CASE.
WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO CANADIANS 
AND WE HAVE TO HEAR THOSE 
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND TRY 
TO FIND A BEST WAY TO MOVE 
FORWARD IN RECOGNIZING THE 
MISTAKES OF THE PAST.
WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE 
HAVE BEEN CHANGES.
>> Question: GOOD MORNING, 
MR. TRUDEAU.
I'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE 
CERB, THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
RESPONSE BENEFIT.
YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT 
HOW YOU CAN EXTEND IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S 
TAKING SO LONG.
DON'T YOU JUST HAVE TO EXTEND 
THE DEADLINE?
>> Answer: WELL, WE ARE WORKING 
ON THAT.
AS I SAID, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 
ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE IN THE 
COMING DAYS.
NOT TODAY.
BUT THIS MORNING I CAN REASSURE 
ALL CANADIANS WHO ARE CURRENTLY 
RECEIVING THE RESPONSE BENEFIT 
OR ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB AND ARE
NOT SURE THEY WILL FIND ONE BY 
THE TIME THE CERB ENDS, THAT WE 
WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE TO 
SUPPORT THEM.
AS WE'VE BEEN SAYING RIGHT FROM 
THE BEGINNING, WE ARE A 
GOVERNMENT THAT WILL BE HERE TO 
HELP PEOPLE.
[end of translation] PEOPLE HAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO 
HAPPEN AS THEY END THEIR CERB 
BENEFITS IN THE COMING MONTH AND
ARE WORRIED THEY WILL NOT BE 
ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER JOB.
I WILL BE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT
IN THE COMING DAYS ON THAT 
EXTENSION, ON THAT ISSUE.
FOR NOW ALL I CAN SAY IS WE WILL
CONTINUE TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
CANADIANS.
WE HAVE SAID THIS FROM THE 
BEGINNING, THAT OUR GOVERNMENT 
WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT 
CANADIANS IN NEED AND OUR PEOPLE
CAN BE ASSURED WE WILL BE THERE.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] SO I 
UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS OF THE
PROGRAM MAY CHANGE AND NOT JUST 
THE END DATE.
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH 
FOR YOU TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF 
THE N.D.P.?
ON WEDNESDAY THERE IS A 
CONFIDENCE VOTE ON SUPPLY.
THE N.D.P. SAYS IT WILL VOTE 
AGAINST IF YOU DON'T EXTEND THE 
CERB.
IS THERE A RISK THAT YOUR 
MINORITY GOVERNMENT WILL FALL 
AND CANADA WILL FIND ITSELF IN 
AN ELECTION?
>> Answer: WELL, OBVIOUSLY IN 
ANY MINORITY PARLIAMENT, THE 
M.P.s DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE FOR
THOSE WHO NEED OUR SUPPORT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL MEMBERS 
OF CANADA EXPECT FROM US.
>> Question: A QUESTION FROM MY 
COLLEAGUE IN NEW BRUNSWICK.
THERE WERE TWO INDIGENOUS 
INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE KILLED BY 
POLICE BULLETS.
ONE OF THE FAMILIES IS ASKING 
FOR A PUBLIC INQUIRY ON WHAT 
OCCURRED.
DO YOU AGREE?
DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A 
PUBLIC INQUIRY TO FIND OUT WHAT 
HAPPENED?
>> Answer: WELL, FIRST OF ALL I 
WANT TO SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY THOSE
FAMILIES DESERVE ANSWERS.
WE STAND WITH THEM, AND OF 
COURSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY 
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 
AND WE WANT ANSWERS.
WE EXPECT THERE TO BE A 
TRANSPARENT AND OPEN INQUIRY ON 
EXACTLY WHAT OCCURRED.
AND I THINK CANADIANS AND THE 
FAMILIES NEED ANSWERS.
[end of translation] FIRST OF 
ALL, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE 
FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OF THOSE
WHO DIED.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY
GET ANSWERS, THAT WE ALL GET 
ANSWERS ON WHAT HAPPENED.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED OPEN AND 
TRANSPARENT INVESTIGATIONS TO 
PROVIDE ANSWERS TO CANADIANS ON 
INDIVIDUAL CASES, BUT WE ALSO 
NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE 
LARGER PICTURE.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] WOULD 
THAT BE A PUBLIC INQUIRY?
>> Answer: YES, I THINK THE 
ANSWERS NEED TO BE PUBLIC.
>> Question: YOU WERE ASKED A 
QUESTION ABOUT LAURIER, BUT YOU 
DIDN'T ANSWER IT.
YOU TALK ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM 
EXISTING IN OUR SOCIETY AND IN 
ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING SOLUTIONS.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OUT THERE.
I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED IS 
SOLUTIONS.
WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS, 
MR. TRUDEAU?
>> Answer: WELL, FOR A NUMBER OF
DAYS WE HAVE BEEN EXPANDING OUR 
WORK AND TALKING TO RACIALIZED 
AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.
WE KNOW A LOT OF PROPOSALS HAVE 
BEEN MADE AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN
VARIOUS REPORTS.
THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW WE CAN 
DO.
NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE 
COMMUNITIES TO PRIORITIZE THOSE 
ACTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TO 
SAY ABOUT THAT IN THE COMING 
DAYS.
[end of translation] WE HAVE 
OVER THE YEARS AND DECADES 
RECEIVED MANY STACKS OF 
RECOMMENDATIONS, ANALYZES AND 
REPORTS ABOUT WAYS TO BETTER 
FIGHT SYSTEMIC RACISM, TO REDUCE
INEQUITIES IN OUR SYSTEM.
IT IS A QUESTION OF PICKING 
WHICH OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS 
WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH
FIRST.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH 
INDIGENOUS LEADERSHIP AND 
COMMUNITIES, WORKING WITH THE 
BLACK COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS TO 
PRIORITIZE WHAT THINGS WE SHOULD
DO RAPIDLY RIGHT AWAY.
WE'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY IN THE 
COMING DAYS ON THAT.
>> Question: PRIME MINISTER, THE
SHOOTING DEATH ON FRIDAY IS THE 
LATEST OF SIX SINCE APRIL, SIX 
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT
AND KILLED BY POLICE IN CANADA.
TWO OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE
DIED IN THE COMPANY OR IN THE 
CUSTODY OF POLICE.
THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THEIR DEATH
ARE UNKNOWN.
THAT'S JUST IN THE LAST THREE 
MONTHS.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL YOUR 
GOVERNMENT DO TO ENSURE THIS 
DOESN'T CONTINUE?
>> Answer: THERE IS SYSTEMIC 
RACISM RACISM IN CANADA.
IT MEANS THAT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE,
BLACK CANADIANS, AND RACIALIZED 
CANADIANS ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO
SUFFER VIOLENCE AT THE HANDS OF 
AUTHORITIES AND POLICE THAN 
NON-RACIALIZED CANADIANS.
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE 
SEEN FOR MANY YEARS.
WE HAVE MADE STEPS TO IMPROVE 
IT, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR MUCH
MORE, MUCH QUICKER.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING RIGHT 
NOW WITH COMMUNITIES TO ADDRESS 
THE FIRST THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
DONE MOST RAPIDLY.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD 
WITH THEM RAPIDLY.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] WE KNOW THAT FOR A 
VERY LONG TIME WE HAVE A SYSTEM 
THAT TREATS INDIGENOUS AND 
RACIALIZED CANADIANS 
DIFFERENTLY.
 THAT IS THAN OTHER NON-MINORITY
CANADIANS.
WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS IN RECENT 
YEARS TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE 
SITUATION, BUT OF COURSE THERE 
IS MUCH MORE TO BE DONE AND WE 
WILL DO THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH 
EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITIES.
WE ARE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT 
GROUPS TO IDENTIFY THE MEASURES 
THAT WE SHOULD INTRODUCE ON A 
PRIORITY BASIS AND QUICKLY AND 
WE WILL HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT
THAT IN THE COMING DAYS.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: YOU ACKNOWLEDGE 
THAT YOU HAVE HAD THESE REPORTS 
AND YOU HAVE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT 
FOR FIVE YEARS AND THE ACTION 
HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY 
MURRAY SINCLAIR IS THAT POLICE 
BE SCREENED FOR SYSTEMIC RACISM.
>> Answer: OTHER POLICE FORCES 
ARE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF 
OTHER ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY, 
MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT NEED 
TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO GO AFTER 
AND TO REDUCE SYSTEMIC RACISM 
AND WE WILL WORK WITH 
COMMUNITIES TO PRIORITIZE CUSTOM
ONES WE SHOULD DO FIRST AND MOST
RAPIDLY.
>> Question: [Indiscernible]. 
>> Answer: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] WE 
REALIZE THERE IS A GREAT DEAL TO
BE DONE IN THE COMING YEARS.
WE HAVE TAKEN CONCRETE STEPS IN 
THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, BUT
THERE IS MORE TO BE DONE.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE 
RCMP.
WE HOPE THAT ALL THE OTHER 
GOVERNMENTS WILL BE WORKING WITH
THEIR POLICE FORCES TO IMPROVE 
THEIR RECRUITMENT APPROACH.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: ON THE CERB 
EXTENSION, THERE IS AN ISSUE 
HERE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS OF 
PEOPLE ON CERB AS OPPOSED TO 
COMPANIES WITH THE WAGE SUBSIDY,
VERY LOW UPTAKE ON THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY.
WITH THIS EXTENSION AND 
PROVINCES REOPENING, WHAT MORE 
CAN YOUR GOVERNMENT DO TO 
ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO USE THE 
WAGE SUBSIDY, ASIDE FROM BEGGING
AND PLEADING?
>> Answer: EVERY WEEK WE SEE 
MORE AND MORE COMPANIES TAKE ON 
THE WAGE SUBSIDY AS OUR LOCAL 
ECONOMIES REOPEN.
WE HAVE MILLIONS OF CANADIANS 
RECEIVING THE WAGE SUBSIDY.
AND WE'RE SEEING AS PEOPLE GET 
BACK TO WORK AND JOBS ARE 
CREATED, PEOPLE ARE TAKING IT 
UP.
CERB WAS DESIGNED TO KEEP 
EVERYONE AT HOME AND HOW US TO 
GET THROUGH THE PHASE OF THIS 
PANDEMIC.
AS WE'RE GETTING INTO THE 
RECOVERY PHASE, WE ARE SEEING 
MORE AND MORE TAKING ON THE WAGE
SUBSIDY WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
EVEN WITH THE ECONOMY REOPENING,
WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY JOBS THAT
WON'T BE COMING BACK IN THE 
SHORT TERM.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO 
CONTINUING TO HELP PEOPLE ON THE
CERB WHO CAN'T FIND A JOB.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] THERE ARE MILLIONS 
OF CANADIANS WHO ARE TAKING 
ADVANTAGE OF THE EMERGENCY 
RESPONSE BENEFIT.
WITH THE REOPENING OF THE 
ECONOMY, THERE WILL BE MORE JOBS
CREATED AND PEOPLE WILL BE 
COMING OFF THE CERB AND 
BENEFITTING FROM THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY.
WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO 
BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE REOPENING 
OF THE ECONOMY, THERE ARE MANY 
JOBS THAT HAVE DISAPPEARED AND 
MAY NOT COME BACK QUICKLY.
SO WE HAVE TO BE THERE TO 
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THOSE 
CANADIANS WHO CAN'T FIND WORK 
AND NEED THE CERB.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: WHEN YOU SEE THE 
DRAMATIC SPIKE OF CORONAVIRUS 
CASES IN A NUMBER OF STATES, 
NEW YORK'S GOVERNOR, AND TEXAS'S
GOVERNOR ARE MUSING ABOUT GOING 
INTO LOCKDOWN MODE AGAIN.
WHAT CONCERNS ARE THERE FOR YOUR
GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT 
THE BORDER RESTRICTIONS AND THE 
TALKS TO KEEP THAT ONGOING?
HOW CONCERNING IS THAT?
>> Answer: ON THURSDAY NIGHT 
WITH THE PREMIERS WE HAD A GOOD 
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BORDER 
RESTRICTIONS.
IT IS CLEAR THERE IS BROAD 
CONSENSUS ACROSS THE PROVINCES 
THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE 
BORDER RESTRICTIONS.
WE WILL DISCUSS WITH THE 
UNITED STATES ADMINISTRATION ON 
WAYS FORWARD, BUT OUR PRIORITY 
ON THIS IS TO ENSURE WE ARE 
KEEPING CANADIANS SAFE WHILE 
ENSURING THE FLOW OF ESSENTIAL 
GOODS AND SERVICES.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] LAST THURSDAY WITH 
THE PREMIERS, WE TALKED ABOUT 
THE BORDER ISSUE.
THERE IS A CLEAR CONSENSUS THAT 
THE PREMIERS OF THE PROVINCES 
WANT US TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT 
MEASURES AT THE CANADA-U.S. 
BORDER.
WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE 
U.S. ADMINISTRATION AT THIS TIME
TO ENSURE WE CAN KEEP CANADIANS 
SAFE.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: PRIME MINISTER, 
LAST WEEK THERE WERE REPORTS 
THAT YOUR IMMIGRATION MINISTER 
PRESENTED A PLAN TO GIVE 
PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS TO 
ASYLUM SEEKERS WHO ARE WORKING 
IN THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IN 
CANADA.
WHAT WILL THE ELIGIBILITY 
CRITERIA BE AND ALSO, WILL THAT 
BE EXTENDED TO ESSENTIAL 
WORKERS, NOT JUST HEALTH CARE 
WORKERS?
>> Answer: OBVIOUSLY CANADA IS A
COUNTRY THAT HAS A STRONG 
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM.
PART OF THE STRENGTH OF THAT 
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS RIGOROUS 
APPLICATIONS OF IMMIGRATION 
RULES THAT ENSURES CANADIANS 
THAT WE CAN BE POSITIVE TOWARDS 
IMMIGRATION, EVEN AS OTHERS 
AROUND THE WORLD TURN AWAY FROM 
IMMIGRATION.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE RECOGNIZE 
THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK DONE BY 
MANY VULNERABLE PEOPLE CARING 
FOR VULNERABLE PEOPLE.
WE RECOGNIZE THE INVALUABLE 
SUPPORT THEY'VE GIVEN TO 
CANADIANS DURING THIS TIME.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] I THINK THE 
PRINCIPLES THAT REASSURE 
CANADIANS ABOUT IMMIGRATION IS 
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A RIGOROUS
SYSTEM THAT APPLIES RIGHT ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THAT 
WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS 
SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE 
VULNERABLE, THEY ARE SEEKING 
ASYLUM.
WE HAVE BENEFITTED FROM THEIR 
HELP WITH OUR SENIORS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT 
WAYS OF SUPPORTING THEM AS WELL.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: JUST COME BACK TO 
THE CANADA-U.S. BORDER.
DESPITE THE CONSENSUS TO KEEP IT
AS TIGHT AS IT IS, WE'RE SEEING 
LOOPHOLES, WE'RE SEEING AMERICAN
TOURISTS GOING TO ALASKA.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE FLYING 
ACROSS THE BORDER.
IS THIS ACCEPTABLE?
>> Answer: OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE 
HEARD THOSE REPORTS AND ARE 
LOOKING INTO THEM.
AS WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE AMERICANS, AS WE LOOK 
AT ADJUSTING OR SHIFTING OUR 
POSTURE IN CERTAIN WAYS, WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO 
APPLY THE RULES CONSISTENTLY AND
THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING 
NECESSARY TO KEEP CANADIANS SAFE
AT THIS IMPORTANT TIME.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] OF COURSE I DID 
HEAR THOSE REPORTS AND WE ARE 
LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO AS WE 
NEGOTIATE WITH THE AMERICANS 
WITH RESPECT TO A POSSIBLE 
EXTENSION OF THE RESTRICTIONS AT
THE BORDER.
WE WILL PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY OF
ALL CANADIANS.
[end of translation]
>> Rosemary: THAT IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA ON THIS 
MONDAY MORNING GIVING US A 
COUPLE OF UPDATES ON HIS 
GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO 
COVID-19.
I GUESS PROBABLY THE HEADLINE 
FOR MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE THAT 
CERB, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE 
BENEFIT, WILL BE EXTENDED IN 
SOME WAY.
WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS LATER 
THIS WEEK.
THAT'S ALL HE WAS WILLING TO SAY
ABOUT THAT FOR NOW.
VASSY, I'LL TURN TO YOU ON 
WHETHER THERE WAS ANYTHING THERE
THAT I MISSED.
I SEEMED THAT APPLICATIONS WILL 
BE OPEN FOR THIS AND THAT, BUT 
I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS ACTUALLY 
ANYTHING THAT CHANGED IN A 
PARTICULAR WAY IN TERMS OF THESE
PROGRAMS.
>> Vassy: YEAH, I THINK WHERE 
THE APPLICATION FOR CEBA IS 
CONCERNED, THAT'S THE ONLY NEW 
BIT OF INFORMATION THAT I GOT 
OUT OF IT.
AS WE WILL PREVIEW ON THE PRIME 
MINISTER'S REMARKS WILL BE 
IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY 
FOR THAT EMERGENCY LOAN.
IT'S $40,000.
BUT THOSE THAT DIDN'T MEET THE 
QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH WAS A 
PAYROLL OF $20,000 TO $1.5 
MILLION, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE 
SOLE PROPRIETORS OR CONTRACTORS 
OR PAY THEMSELVES THROUGH 
DIVIDENDS.
THEY WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR 
THAT ON FRIDAY.
I ALSO ASKED MINISTER NG'S 
OFFICE IF THERE WAS A NEW 
CATEGORY OF PEOPLE FOR THIS.
THAT IS A NEW BUSINESS AND THOSE
WHO DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT.
MY INFORMATION IS THIS DOES NOT 
COVER THEM YET.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THOSE 
SOLUTIONS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS FOR 
SOLE PROPRIETORS OR THOSE WHO 
DIDN'T MEET THE PAYROLL 
REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WILL HAPPEN ON FRIDAY.
THE CERB, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS 
SOMETHING THAT MANY CANADIANS 
ARE INTERESTED IN.
IT'S PREDICATING WHAT COMES 
BEFORE PARLIAMENT ON WEDNESDAY.
NOT A LOT OF ANSWERS FROM THE 
PRIME MINISTER, OTHER THAN A 
CLEAR SIGNAL THAT THE PROGRAM 
WILL BE EXPANDED, BUT BY HOW 
MUCH, FOR WHOM, TO WHAT EXTENT, 
ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS REMAIN 
UNANSWERED AT THIS POINT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE 
SOME NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING 
BEHIND THE SCENES AND OBVIOUSLY 
CONSIDERATIONS WITH THE 
BUREAUCRACY ABOUT WHAT THIS 
LOOKS LIKE.
I'M ALSO INTERESTED TO SEE FROM 
THE N.D.P. AND I'VE SENT SOME 
TEXT MESSAGES TO TRY AND FIND 
OUT.
WHEN HE SAYS THEY NEED A 
COMMITMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT 
TO EXTEND CERB, ARE THERE 
SPECIFICS ATTACHED TO THAT TOO.
IS THAT TO THE END OF THE 
SUMMER.
MR. SINGH HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT
EXTENDING IT TO THE END OF THE 
YEAR OR AN ADDITIONAL FOUR 
MONTHS.
ARE THERE SPECIFICS ATTACHED TO 
THE CONDITIONAL SUPPORT THE 
N.D.P. SAYS IT WILL OFFER IF 
THIS PROGRAM IS EXTENDED.
NONE OF THOSE DETAILS ARE 
AVAILABLE, BUT THOSE 
CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING.
THE LAST BIT I WANT TO TOUCH ON 
IS SOMETHING NEW WE HEARD FROM 
THE PRIME MINISTER.
I HAD NOT HEARD FROM MINISTERS 
IN CHARGE OF THIS FILE.
THAT IS THE RENTAL PROGRAM.
THE GOVERNMENT HAD ALLOTTED $3 
BILLION FOR THAT PROGRAM.
THIS IS WHAT LANDLORDS USE TO 
OFFER A BREAK ON RENT FOR THEIR 
TENANTS.
ONLY ABOUT $39 MILLION HAD BEEN 
USED.
VERY LOW UPTAKE.
THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS HE'S 
CALLING ON PROVINCES TO ISSUE 
COMMERCIAL RENT EVICTIONS.
I KNOW NOVA SCOTIA, 
NEW BRUNSWICK, AND B.C. HAVE 
DONE THAT.
I'VE NOT HEARD THE PRIME 
MINISTER BE SO EXPLICIT ABOUT 
THAT YET.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE 
PROVINCES AND THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO A DEGREE WHY THAT 
HADN'T BEEN ENCOURAGED PRIOR, 
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE 
HARDEST TIME FOR SO MANY OF 
THESE BUSINESSES PRIOR TO 
OPENING OVER THE LAST THREE 
MONTHS.
THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO 
FOLLOW UP WHICH PROVINCES DECIDE
TO DO SO, TO WHAT EXTENT, HOW DO
THEY GET THIS PROGRAM TO BE MORE
USEFUL TO THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY 
NEED IT.
WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF IT 
DOESN'T END UP BEING USEFUL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL 
BUSINESS OWNERS WHO WILL HAVE 
TROUBLE PAYING THEIR RENT EVEN 
IF THEY DO ACCESS THIS.
>> Rosemary: I THINK YOU'RE 
QUITE RIGHT ABOUT THE CERB.
PROBABLY BECAUSE MORE DETAILS 
WEREN'T GIVEN IS THEY ARE 
NEGOTIATING BEHIND THE SCENES 
FOR THE POLITICAL DETAILS.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING IF THE 
N.D.P. MAKE A REQUIREMENT THAT 
THE GOVERNMENT NOT GO AFTER 
THOSE WHO FAULTED THE SYSTEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD THROW
THAT INTO THE NEGOTIATIONS 
AROUND THAT.
OBVIOUSLY TALKS CONTINUE AND THE
NATURE OF THOSE TALKS MAY VERY 
WELL INFORM WHAT HAPPENS AROUND 
CERB.
DAVID, THERE WAS SOME TALK ON 
WAGE SUBSIDY THERE TOO.
I'LL JUST REMIND PEOPLE, AS OF 
JUNE 8, IT WAS 2.6 MILLION 
WORKERS.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A GOOD NUMBER, 
BUT IT'S NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THE 
GOVERNMENT WANTS OR CONTINUES TO
HOPE FOR.
>> David: HE SAID PLEASE SIGN 
UP.
THIS IS THAT PLEADING TONE THAT 
WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THE 
BREAK.
BUT THE RENTAL PROGRAM, LIKE THE
WAGE SUBSIDY, IT SPEAKS TO -- 
IT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM WITH 
FEDERAL BACKSTOPPING.
BUT IT IS DEPENDANT ON FEDERAL 
DECISIONS OF BEING EFFECTIVE.
THEY CAN CLEAN UP APPLICATIONS 
AND CRITERIA AND ALL THOSE 
THINGS.
IF THE ECONOMY ISN'T REOPENING 
AND IF THERE ISN'T PRESSURE ON 
WAGE SUBSIDY AND LANDLORDS ON 
THE RENTAL THING, YOU CAN'T KICK
PEOPLE OUT AND HUNT FOR SOMEONE 
NEW, SIGN UP.
WITHOUT THAT STICK, IT LOOKS 
LESS ENTICING.
THE BIG THING TO WATCH OVER THE 
NEXT 48 HOURS OR SO WILL BE THE 
NEGOTIATIONS ON THE CERB 
EXTENSION.
THROUGH REGULATION, THE 
GOVERNMENT CAN ROLL IT OVER AND 
EXTEND IT.
THEY DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO 
THE LEGISLATURE IF THEY WANT TO 
EXTEND IT FOR 16 WEEKS.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE 
INITIAL LEGISLATION THAT CREATED
THE CERB.
IF THEY WANT TO BROADEN THE 
CRITERIA FOR SEASONAL WORKERS OR
DO THINGS FOR PENALTIES OR 
CHANGE THE NATURE FOR IT, THAT 
YOU DON'T NEED A TWO-WEEK 
BENEFIT, THAT IS GOING TO 
REQUIRE PARLIAMENTARY APPROVAL.
THIS IS THE CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW.
LAST WEEK WE SORT OF SAW THE 
COLLAPSE OF THE CO-OPERATIVE 
CONSENSUS THAT'S BEEN THERE WITH
REALLY STRIDENT POSITIONS ON THE
TABLE BY THE OTHER PARTIES.
THE BLOC IS FOCUSED ON QUEBEC, 
THE CONSERVATIVES FOCUSED ON THE
PROCESS AND THE N.D.P.s WANTING 
AN OUTCOME.
THEY NEED THE PROVINCES TO ACT 
FOR THE LANDLORDS TO TAKE UP THE
INITIATIVE.
THEY NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE 
OPPOSITION PARTIES.
THE MINORITY PARLIAMENT IS 
REARING ITS HEAD THESE DAYS.
THEY'VE BEEN ACCUSED FOR ACTING 
LIKE A MAJORITY.
UP TO THIS POINT THEY'VE BEEN 
ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE 
ENERGY NATURE OF THIS.
NOW THAT WE'VE REACHED A 
TREADING WATER PHASE, POLITICS 
WILL COME INTO THIS AND FORCE 
THEM TO ACT LIKE THE MINORITY 
GOVERNMENT.
>> Rosemary: MANY THINGS 
INCLUDING NO ECONOMIC UPDATES ON
THE HORIZON, NOT SITTING ENOUGH.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN IN IN 
SOME PLACES, BUT IN OTHER PLACES
HAS NOT.
SOME OF THAT IS COMING HOME TO 
ROOST WITH THE GOVERNMENT.
YOU CAN'T GET CONSENSUS IF YOU 
DON'T GIVE ON ISSUES LIKE THAT.
>> David: THERE WAS ONE OTHER 
THING THE PRIME MINISTER SAID, 
THERE WILL BE URGENT ACTIONS ON 
ADDRESSING SYSTEMIC RACISM 
COMING THIS WEEK, THAT THEY'VE 
HAD A SERIES OF REPORTS AND 
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE IS NO NEED TO DO ANOTHER 
STUDY ON THIS, THE GOVERNMENT 
HAS A FILE OF THEM AND THEY'RE 
GOING THROUGH THE 
RECOMMENDATIONS TO DECIDE WHAT 
THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
GIVEN THE GLOBAL ENVIRONMENT ON 
THIS ISSUE, THERE IS A NEED FOR 
A COUNTRY LIKE CANADA TO SHOW 
URGENT ACTION, ESPECIALLY WITH 
THINGS HAPPENING INSIDE THIS 
COUNTRY.
WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF 
THAT, BUT THAT IS A SPECIFIC 
PROMISE OF SOMETHING COMING IN 
THE NEXT DAYS.
>> Rosemary: THIS WAS THE FIRST 
TIME THE PRIME MINISTER 
ADDRESSED THE KILLING OF RODNEY 
LEVI IN MIRAMICHI ON THE 
WEEKEND.
THAT HAPPENED AT THE HANDS OF 
THE RCMP AND THAT COMMUNITY AND 
HIS FAMILY WANT ANSWERS.
PEOPLE KILLED OR ASSAULTED BY 
POLICE IN THE RECENT WEEKS, THAT
THEY NEED CLEAR ANSWERS.
I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR A MOMENT
AS WE AWAIT THE NOON BRIEFING 
WITH CABINET MINISTERS AND 
HEALTH OFFICIALS.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS 
ISSUE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER 
HAS TALKED ABOUT AND DR. THERESA
TAM HAS TALKED ABOUT AND SOME OF
YOU ARE FEELING.
THE CLOSURE OF THE ECONOMY HAS 
HAD A LARGE IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S 
MENTAL HEALTH, EVEN THOUGH 
THINGS ARE REOPENING AND YOUR 
LIFE IS RETURNING TO A BIT OF A 
NORMAL.
WE ARE SPEAKING TO THE DIRECTOR 
OF THE KIDS HELP PHONE.
>> Interview: NICE TO BE HERE.
>> Rosemary: THERE ARE SOME 
SENSE OF NORMALCY.
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SEE MORE 
PEOPLE AND GO TO MORE PLACES AND
I IMAGINE THAT'S HELPING A LOT.
BUT GIVE ME A SENSE OF WHAT 
YOU'RE HEARING BROAD FROM I 
GUESS THE KIDS WHO ARE CALLING.
>> Interview: WE HAVE SEEN A 
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF YOUNG 
PEOPLE COMING TO OUR SERVICES, 
OVER 100% INCREASE OVER THIS 
TIME LAST YEAR.
THEY'VE BEEN COMING ON SERIOUS 
CHALLENGES.
ISOLATION HAS BEEN A BIG ONE 
OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, 
ANXIETY AND DISTRESS, BUT WE'VE 
HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT AROUND BODY
ISSUES, AROUND FEELING ALONE AND
DISCONNECTED, GRIEVING, MISSING 
THINGS LIKE GRADUATION AND 
MISSING THEIR FRIENDS.
AND RECENTLY IN THE LAST FEW 
WEEKS CONVERSATIONS DIRECTLY 
RELATED TO RACISM.
>> Rosemary: REALLY, I HADN'T 
THOUGHT OF THAT.
IS THIS SURPRISING TO YOU?
I GET THE ISOLATION CALLS, 
YOU'RE DISCONNECTED FROM YOUR 
FRIENDS, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, IS
IT COMPOUNDED BECAUSE OF THE 
PANDEMIC?
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE FEELING 
THINGS MORE INTENSELY?
>> Interview: I THINK FOR ALL OF
US -- THIS IS A WHOLE NEW WORLD 
AND EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN IN IT
FOR A FEW MONTHS, WE'RE 
ADJUSTING TO WHAT THIS MEANS.
WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT CAN'T 
WE.
FOR SUMMER FOR KIDS, ARE CAMPS 
GOING TO BE ON.
HOW MANY OF THEIR FRIENDS CAN 
THEY SEE.
AND TAKING IN THE REALITY OF 
WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND US.
KIDS ARE HEARING THINGS ON THE 
NEWS AND REACTING TO THINGS 
THEIR PARENTS ARE GOING THROUGH.
NONE OF THIS IS REALLY 
SURPRISING.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT ONLY 
IMPACTING KIDS RIGHT YOU, BUT 
WILL IMPACT THEM IN THE COMING 
WEEKS AND MONTHS.
>> Rosemary: I GOT A LOVELY 
E-MAIL FROM A STUDENT ASKING 
ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THAT
THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THEY 
WOULD GIVE STUDENTS FOR.
BUT THIS YOUNG WOMAN IS 
VOLUNTEERING FOR YOUR 
ORGANIZATION.
I WONDER IF YOU'VE HAD SO MANY 
VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN 
SUCH AN UPTAKE.
HOW HAS THAT WORKED FOR YOU?
>> Interview: WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY
AND I FEEL PROUD AS CANADIANS.
WE PUT OUT A CALL AT THE 
BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC AND WE
HAD OVER 9,000 CANADIANS APPLY.
WE ARE ON TRACK TO TRAIN MORE 
PEOPLE THAN WE HAVE TRAINED IN 
THE LAST TWO YEARS.
WE HAVE HAD TO TELL SOME 
VOLUNTEERS THAT WE ARE FULL AND 
WE ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS 
FOR THEM TO MAKE AN IMPACT.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAVE HAD ZERO DOWN TIME AND 
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE THE 
SURGE IN DEMANDS WHILE KEEPING 
WAIT TIMES DOWN.
>> Rosemary: DR. THERESA TAM HAS
TALKED ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND 
STATS CAN SHOWS THAT 10% OF 
PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED SHOWED 
SYMPTOMS CONSISTENT WITH 
MODERATE OR SEVERE ANXIETY.
HOW DIFFERENT IS THAT -- I GUESS
YOU DID IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A 
NEED?
>> Interview: KIDS HELP PHONE 
HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 31 YEARS AS 
THE MAIN GO-TO PLACE FOR YOUNG 
PEOPLE.
BUT INCREASINGLY WE WERE GETTING
TEXTS FROM ADULTS SAYING, I'M 
SORRY, I'M NOT A KID, BUT I NEED
HELP.
WE THOUGHT, WE'VE GOT THE 
CAPACITY, LET'S OPEN UP FOR 
ADULTS.
WE HAVE A TEXTING SERVICE FOR 
KIDS AND THEY CAN TEXT 686868 
AND ADULTS CAN TEXT "WELLNESS."
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO 
MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP.
WE'RE THERE 24/7 TO SUPPORT 
PEOPLE.
>> Rosemary: I WAS TALKING WITH 
FRIENDS YESTERDAY ABOUT 
LONG-LASTING EFFECTS OF THIS 
THAT WE HAVEN'T CONTEMPLATED 
YET.
WHEN KIDS DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO 
SCHOOL, SEPARATION ANXIETY, ALL 
THESE THINGS, ARE YOU ALSO 
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?
YOU'RE HERE IN THE IMMEDIATE AS 
IT STARTED, BUT NOW WE DON'T 
REALLY KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PART 
OF THIS WILL LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS
HOW PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED.
HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT 
THAT?
>> Interview: I'M ALWAYS 
CONCERNED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
TO YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE NEAR 
FUTURE.
FOR A LOT OF KIDS, THEY MISS 
GOING TO SCHOOL.
FOR OTHERS, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE 
TO SPEND ALL SUMMER AT HOME WITH
THEIR PARENTS, WHICH IS AMAZING.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HILL 
FOR THEM.
THERE ARE ALSO KIDS WHO WILL BE 
CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL LOOK 
LIKE.
ARE THEY GOING TO GO BACK FULL 
TIME WITH THEIR FRIENDS.
WE ARE AT A TIME OF UNCERTAINTY 
AND AS PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS, 
WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE
ARE FEELING UNCERTAIN ABOUT A 
LOT AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE 
THEM TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND COME
UP WITH COPING MECHANISMS WHEN 
WE'RE ALL FACED WITH THE 
UNCERTAINTY.
>> Rosemary: REMIND US OF THE 
NUMBERS.
>> Interview: ANY YOUNG PERSON 
CAN TEXT "TALK" TO 686868 OR 
THEY CAN CALL TO ONE OF OUR 
PROFESSIONAL COUNSELLORS THAT IS
1-800-668-6868.
ADULTS CAN TEXT "WELLNESS" TO 
741741.
>> Rosemary: DON'T RES AT A TIME
TO  -- HESITATE TO REACH OUT IF 
YOU FEEL YOU NEED HELP.
KIDS HELP PHONE BRINGING IN 
SERVICES FOR ADULTS.
THOSE OF YOU FEELING OVERWHELMED
BY THE CHANGES AND JOB LOSSES 
AND FINANCIAL STRESSES, THEY ARE
AVAILABLE FOR ADULTS OR KIDS OR 
ANYONE ELSE WHO NEEDS TO TALK TO
SOMEONE.
WE ARE STANDING BY TO HEAR FROM 
CABINET STISHLS FOR THE REGULAR 
NOON BRIEFING.
THAT WILL BE STARTING SHORTLY.
I'LL BRING IN THE HOST OF "POWER
& POLITICS," VASSY KAPELOS, AND 
DAVID COCHRANE IN OUR 
PARLIAMENTARY BUREAU.
I WANT TO PICK UP WHERE I LEFT 
OFF WITH DR. BOGOCH.
VASSY, I KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH HIM
ABOUT THIS.
THE PROBLEM IN THE SOUTHERN 
STATES IN THE U.S.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ASKED 
ABOUT THAT AND CONCERNS AROUND 
THE BORDER BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE 
STATES THAT ARE NOT SO FAR 
SOUTH, LIKE IN NEW YORK WHERE 
GOVERNOR CUOMO IS SAYING, BE 
CAREFUL OTHERWISE WE WILL NEED 
TO LOCKDOWN AGAIN, THIS IS A BIG
CONCERN TO THIS COUNTRY KNOWING 
THAT MANY CASES CAME FROM THE 
UNITED STATES ULTIMATELY.
>> Vassy: IT'S A HUGE CONCERN.
AT THE TIME THERE WERE 14 STATES
I THINK THAT WERE SEEING SPIKES.
BY TODAY THERE WERE 22.
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT MANY OF THEM 
ARE OF COURSE ALONG THAT 
SOUTHERN PERIMETER, BUT THERE 
ARE OUTLIERS SUCH AS MICHIGAN, 
WHICH HAS SEEN A SPIKE IN CASES 
AS THEY REOPENED.
YOU WERE RIGHT TO POINT OUT IN 
YOUR INTERVIEW WITH DR. BOGOCH, 
THIS ISN'T INCREASED TESTING.
THIS IS COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION.
THEY ARE ROACHING THE CAPACITY 
THAT THEY HAVE AT THEIR 
HOSPITALS, IN THEIR INTENSIVE 
CARE UNITS, AND COMING CLOSE TO 
BREACHING IT ACTUALLY.
SO A HUGE CONCERN IN THOSE 
STATES, BUT ALSO IN MICHIGAN 
WHICH OF COURSE IS A BORDER 
STATE TO CANADA, THAT BORDER 
BETWEEN DETROIT AND WINDSOR AND 
ONE OF THE MOST NORMALLY POROUS.
THE LIFESTYLE THERE, THE MAYOR 
HAS TOLD ME OFTEN, OFTEN YOU'LL 
CROSS JUST TO GO FOR DINNER.
SO THERE IS A TON OF CONCERN 
ABOUT THE SPIKE -- ESPECIALLY 
AMONG EPIDEMIOLOGISTS ABOUT THE 
SPIKE WE'RE SEEING SOUTH OF THE 
BORDER INCREASINGLY.
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER WAS ASKED ABOUT IT.
HE REITERATED WHAT HE SAID IN 
THE PAST WHICH IS RIGHT NOW 
THERE IS NO DESIRE IN THIS STAGE
AT THIS JUNCTURE TO EASE THOSE 
RESTRICTIONS.
WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM THE 
PREMIERS.
WE'VE HEARD JOHN HORGAN, DOUG 
FORD, BLAIR HIGGS AT THE 
FOREFRONT OF THAT CONVERSATION 
SAYING WE ARE ADAMANT WITH THE 
PRIME MINISTER THAT WE DO NOT 
WANT THOSE BORDERS RELAXED.
THERE WILL BE I THINK MORE 
QUESTIONS AS TIME GOES ON.
YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE TOURISM 
INDUSTRY WHICH IS CRIPPLED BY 
THE INABILITY TO ACCESS THOSE 
TOURISTS FROM THE UNITED STATES.
THEY'RE CONCERNED WHAT THAT 
LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD.
SOME OF THE TERRITORIES.
I SPOKE TO PREMIER SANDY SILVER 
ASKING IS THIS CONVERSATION EVEN
POSSIBLE.
I THINK ALL OF THAT IS TO COME 
AT SOME POINT.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING 
SOUTH OF THE BORDER, DR. BOGOCH 
SAID IT TO YOU AND ME, THERE IS 
A REAL CASE FOR KEEPING THE 
RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE.
THE PRIME MINISTER DIDN'T SEEM 
LIKE HE WAS LEANING TOWARDS A 
CHANGE.
>> Rosemary: THIS UPTICK IN 
E
CASES HAPPENED AROUND THE 
MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, WHICH WE 
ALSO SAW AN INCREASE AROUND 
MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND.
IT'S PEOPLE BECOMING A LITTLE 
TOO COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE'S 
FEW CASES, BUT IT'S STILL OUT 
THERE.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU 
APPROACH THINGS.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ASKED 
ABOUT A COUPLE OF LOOPHOLES, 
THAT THERE WERE AMERICANS 
CROSSING THE BORDER THROUGH 
ALASKA OR FLYING IN.
THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER SAID 
THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THAT TO 
MAKE SURE THAT RULES ARE 
CONSISTENT IN ORDER TO KEEP 
CANADIANS SAFE.
DAVID, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU 
WANTED TO JUMP IN ON THERE, IF 
YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE 
BORDER.
KATIE REPORTED LAST WEEK THAT IT
WILL BE EXTENDED UNTIL JULY, BUT
I AGREE WITH VASSY, NO ONE IS 
THINKING OF ANY REOPENING IN ANY
SUBSTANTIVE WAY MOVING FORWARD.
>> David: CANADA'S TRANSMISSION 
RATE IS BELOW ONE.
STILL SOME TROUBLE SPOTS, BUT 
CANADA HAS FLATTENED AND STARTED
TO BEND IT DOWN.
THIS IS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
YOU HAD THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND
AND THE ECONOMIC REOPENING.
YOU'VE HAD DAILY LARGE-SCALE 
PROTESTS IN 250-PLUS CITIES.
WHILE THESE ARE IMPORTANT 
DEMONSTRATIONS OF ANGER AT 
RACIAL INJUSTICE AND POLICE 
BRUTALITY, THEY ARE FERTILE 
BREEDING GROUNDS FOR COVID-19.
THE VIRUS DOESN'T CARE WHY 
PEOPLE ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, 
BUT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT.
THIS IS ANOTHER HEALTH FACTOR 
THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
WHILE WE CAN KEEP THE BORDER 
CLOSED AND THAT CAN PROTECT 
CANADIANS FROM THE SPREAD THAT 
MAY BE HAPPENING IN THE 
UNITED STATES, AS IT MOVES 
THROUGH THE U.S. ECONOMY, THIS 
COULD HAVE INTERRUPTION EFFECTS 
ON CRITICAL SUPPLY, ON FOOD 
SUPPLY, IT CAN INCREASE THE COST
OF THINGS.
IF ANYONE HAS GONE TO THE 
GROCERY STORE AND HAS TRIED TO 
BUY BEEF, YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECT
ON THE SUPPLY AND COST OF THESE 
THINGS.
IN THE U.S., THE ECONOMY IS AN 
ABSOLUTE URGENT PRIORITY FOR 
MANY GOVERNORS AND THE PRESIDENT
AND PUSHING PEOPLE IN A LOT OF 
RED STATES TO REOPEN.
THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE 
FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO CONFRONT.
I MEAN, SO FAR THE BORDER DEAL 
KEEPS ROLLING OVER AND THEN YOU 
HAVE SOME LOOPHOLES AND THE 
FAMILY REUNIFICATION.
BUT THOSE NUMBERS COMING OUT OF 
25 STATES NOW ARE TERRIFYING.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE SECOND WAVE.
IT'S LIKE A CONTINUATION OF THE 
FIRST WAVE AND WHAT WE THOUGHT 
WAS GETTING UNDER CONTROL IN 
SOME PLACES HAS ROARED BACK WITH
A VENGEANCE.
>> Rosemary: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 
LARGE-SCALE RALLIES IS CONTACT 
TRACING BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT YOUR 
FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS, BUT MASS
AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE.
>> David: OR WON'T REPORT AND 
TEAR GAS MAKES YOU COUGH.
>> Rosemary: IT WILL BE TWO OR 
THREE WEEKS BEFORE WE SEE IF 
THOSE PROTESTS HAS AFFECTED THE 
NUMBERS.
I'LL LEAVE YOU THERE.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.
LET'S GO BACK TO OTTAWA WHERE 
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE GIVING 
AN UPDATE.
>> IT HAS DEVASTATING 
CONSEQUENCES AND CAN AFFECT 
FUTURE RELATIONSHIPS AND FUTURE 
GENERATIONS.
TODAY, JUNE 15, MARKS WORLD 
ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS DAY.
IN 2018 MORE THAN 12,000 ADULTS 
65 OR OLD REPORTED VIOLENCE TO 
THE AUTHORITIES.
IN ABOUT A THIRD OF THE CASES, 
THE ABUSE WAS COMMITTED BY A 
FAMILY MEMBER.
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT AN 
INCREASE IN FAMILY AND 
GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE IN THE 
TIME OF COVID-19.
SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE OBSERVED
INCREASES AND REPORTS OF 
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
CALLS FOR SUPPORT RISES AND 
DEMANDS FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER.
WHILE CHILD WELFARE 
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE OBSERVED A 
CONCERNING DECREASE IN THE 
REPORTING OF CHILD ABUSE AND 
NEGLECT.
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES NECESSARY
TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 
ARE LEAVING SOME CANADIANS 
ISOLATED WITH VIOLENT PARTNERS 
OR FAMILY MEMBERS.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, TYPICAL 
COMMUNITY SUPPORTS HAVE NOT 
ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT
THOSE AT RISK, INCLUDING 
SENIORS.
ASKING FOR HELP CAN BE HARD, BUT
I WANT CANADIANS TO KNOW THERE 
ARE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO HELP.
sheltersafe.ca CAN CONNECT YOU 
WITH A SAFE PLACE IN YOUR AREA.
KIDS CAN CALL KIDS HELP PHONE.
IF YOU ARE IN IMMEDIATE DANGER, 
CALL 911 OR YOUR LOCAL POLICE.
IF YOU ARE A HEALTH PROVIDER, 
YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE FIRST 
POINTS OF CONTACT TO RECOGNIZE 
VIOLENCE.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE 
EQUIPPED TO RECOGNIZE SIGNS OF 
VIOLENCE AND TO RESPOND QUICKLY 
AND SAFELY.
THERE IS EVIDENCE-BASED GUIDANCE
AND ONLINE RESOURCES TO HELP YOU
RECOGNIZE AND RESPOND TO CHILD 
MALTREATMENT, INTIMATE PARTNER 
VIOLENCE AND CHILDREN'S APPROACH
TO INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE.
THESE RESOURCES ARE FREE AND 
ONLINE.
THESE ARE AVAILABLE IN A 
BILINGUAL FORMAT.
THESE ARE SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH 
ISSUES THAT AFFECT CHILDREN, 
YOUTH, FAMILIES, WOMEN, AND 
COMMUNITIES.
REMEMBER THAT WHILE MANY OF US 
ARE AT HOME DUE TO COVID-19, NOT
EVERY HOME IS SAFE.
IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING FAMILY 
VIOLENCE, KNOW THAT HELP IS 
AVAILABLE ANY TIME DAY OR NOT.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> [Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] THANK YOU.
HELLO.
I WILL START WITH THE LATEST 
NUMBERS ON COVID-19 IN CANADA.
THERE ARE NOW 98,787 CASES, 
INCLUDING 8,146 DEATHS AND 
60,272, OR 61% HAVE RECOVERED.
LABS ACROSS CANADA HAVE TESTED 
OVER 2,152,000 PEOPLE FOR 
COVID-19 TO DATE.
OVER THE PAST WEEK WE HAVE BEEN 
TESTING AN AVERAGE OF 33,000 
PEOPLE DAILY WITH 2% POSITIVE.
THESE NUMBERS CHANGE GREATLY AND
ARE UPDATED REGULARLY ON 
Canada.ca/coronavirus.
TODAY WE ALSO WANT TO REMIND 
CANADIANS THAT COVID-19 IS STILL
PRESENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE 
FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
WE ARE INCREASINGLY GOING OUT 
INTO PUBLIC SPACES AND IT IS 
IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN GOOD 
HYGIENIC MEASURES AND PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING.
WASH YOUR HANDS FREQUENTLY AND 
COUGH INTO YOUR ELBOW.
IN REGIONS WHERE COVID-19 IS 
STILL ACTIVE, PLEASE WEAR A 
CLOTH MASK WHEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
TO MAINTAIN PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
THROUGHOUT CANADA PEOPLE HAVE 
WORKED HARD TO SLOW THE SPREAD 
OF COVID-19 BY STAYING HOME.
HOWEVER, HOME IS NOT A SAFE 
PLACE FOR MANY PEOPLE 
EXPERIENCING FAMILY VIOLENCE.
FAMILY AND GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE
INCLUDE CHILD MALTREATMENT, 
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, AND 
ELDER ABUSE AND NEGLECT.
IT HAS DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES 
FOR CHILDREN, WOMEN, FAMILIES, 
AND COMMUNITIES.
IT HAS LONG-LASTING IMPACTS ON 
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND 
CAN AFFECT FUTURE RELATIONSHIPS 
AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
TODAY, JUNE 15, MARKS WORLD 
ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS DAY.
IN 2018, MORE THAN 12,000 ADULTS
AGED 65 OR OLDER IN CANADA 
REPORTED VIOLENCE TO THE 
AUTHORITIES.
IN ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF THOSE 
CASES, THE ABUSE WAS COMMITTED 
BY A FAMILY MEMBER.
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT AN 
INCREASE IN FAMILY AND 
GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE IN THE 
TIME OF COVID-19.
SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE OBSERVED
INCREASES IN REPORTS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, CALLS TO CRISIS 
SUPPORT LINES, AND DEMAND FOR 
EMERGENCY SHELTERS, WHILE CHILD 
WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE 
OBSERVED A CONCERNING DECREASE 
IN THE REPORTING OF CHILD ABUSE 
AND NEGLECT.
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES NECESSARY
TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 
ARE LEAVING SOME CANADIANS 
ISOLATED WITH VIOLENT PARTNERS 
OR FAMILY MEMBERS.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, TYPICAL 
COMMUNITY SUPPORTS HAVE NOT 
ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO 
IDENTIFY AND SUPPORT THOSE AT 
RISK, INCLUDING SENIORS.
ASKING FOR HELP CAN BE HARD, BUT
WE WANT CANADIANS TO KNOW THAT 
THERE ARE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO 
HELP.
IF YOU ARE A WOMAN EXPERIENCING 
VIOLENCE, sheltersafe.ca CAN 
CONNECT YOU WITH A SHELTER IN 
YOUR AREA.
IF YOU ARE A YOUNG PERSON AT 
RISK OR EXPERIENCING VIOLENCE, 
YOU CAN CALL KIDS HELP PHONE FOR
CONFIDENTIAL HELP AND SUPPORT.
IF YOU ARE IN IMMEDIATE DANGER, 
CALL 911 OR YOUR LOCAL POLICE.
IF YOU ARE A HEALTH CARE OR 
SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDER, YOU 
MAY BE THE FIRST CONTACT FOR 
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING VIOLENCE.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE 
EQUIPPED TO RECOGNIZE SIGNS OF 
FAMILY VIOLENCE AND TO RESPOND 
SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY.
THE PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY OF 
CANADA HAS SUPPORTED THE 
DEVELOPMENT OF EVIDENCE-BASED 
GUIDANCE AND ONLINE EDUCATION 
RESOURCES TO HELP YOU RECOGNIZE 
AND SAFELY RESPOND TO CHILD 
MALTREATMENT, INTIMATE PARTNER 
VIOLENCE, AND CHILDREN'S 
EXPOSURE TO INTIMATE PARTNER 
VIOLENCE.
THE VEGA FAMILY VIOLENCE 
EDUCATION RESOURCES ARE FREE AND
AVAILABLE ON THE McMASTER 
WEBSITE.
FAMILY VIOLENCE AND GENDER-BASED
VIOLENCE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT
AFFECT CHILDREN, YOUTH, WOMEN, 
AND FAMILIES.
REMEMBER, WHILE MANY OF US ARE 
AT HOME DUE TO COVID-19, NOT 
EVERY HOME IS SAFE.
IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING FAMILY 
VIOLENCE, KNOW THAT HELP IS 
AVAILABLE ANY TIME DAY OR NIGHT.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS IT 
HAPPEN.
THANK YOU.
[end of translation]. 
>> THANK YOU, DR. NJOO.
BEFORE WE TURN TO QUESTIONS, I 
WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE 
SOME OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS MADE 
BY THE PRIME MINISTER THIS 
MORNING.
FIRST ON THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
BUSINESS ACCOUNT, THE LATEST 
NUMBER INDICATES A TOTAL OF 
670,000 SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE 
RECEIVED A SMALL BUSINESS LOAN 
IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
THE PRIME MINISTER ANNOUNCED 
TODAY THAT ON FRIDAY AN 
APPLICATION WEBSITE WILL BE 
PROVIDED TO EXTEND THE 
ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE SMALL 
BUSINESS LOANS.
THEY WILL, IN PARTICULAR, ALLOW 
SMALL BUSINESSES THAT PAY 
DIVIDENDS TO SOLE OWNERS OR THAT
WORK WITH CONTRACTORS OR THAT 
OPERATE IN A MANNER WHICH MADE 
THEM INITIALLY INELIGIBLE TO THE
CEBA, THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES CAN
APPLY STARTING FRIDAY.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] SECOND BRIEF 
ANNOUNCEMENT ON ARTIFICIAL 
INTELLIGENCE, THE CREATION OF AN
INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIP ON 
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, A 
PARTNERSHIP WITH 14 OTHER 
COUNTRIES, AND WE'LL BE WORKING 
AS WELL WITH THE OECD, FOCUSING 
ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE 
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT CAN 
BRING US FURTHER FOR SUSTAINABLE
DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC 
DEVELOPMENT, AND INCREASING 
PRODUCTIVITY.
BUT IT ALSO CAN ALLOW US TO 
PROTECT HEALTH AND THE 
ENVIRONMENT.
WE KNOW WHAT PROTECTING HEALTH 
MEANS IN THIS PANDEMIC.
SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO 
DEVELOP THIS AND SUPPORT THIS 
PARTNERSHIP THIS CENTRE OF 
EXPERTISE.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO MORE IN 
THE CONTEXT OF COVID-19 AND IN 
THE CONTEXT OF FUTURE PANDEMICS.
[end of translation] I HAVE AN 
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE 
$50 MILLION FOOD SURPLUS RESCUE 
PROGRAM.
TODAY IS THE STARTING DATE FOR 
THE APPLICATION TO THAT PROGRAM.
THAT PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO 
SUPPORT FOOD PRODUCERS AND FOOD 
TRANSFORMERS, AS WELL AS TO 
SUPPORT VULNERABLE CANADIANS AS 
WELL AS TO REDUCE FOOD WASTE.
AGAIN, THE APPLICATION FOR THAT 
IMPORTANT PROGRAM IS BEING 
LAUNCHED TODAY.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] WE'LL NOW BE MORE 
THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTIONS.
>> WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE 
PHONE AND THEN TURN TO THE ROOM.
>> Operator: OUR FIRST QUESTION 
IS FROM "LE DEVOIR."
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] HELLO.
MY QUESTION IS FOR MINISTER 
DUCLOS REGARDING THE EXTENSION 
OF THE CERB.
THE PRIME MINISTER STATED THIS 
WOULD BE HAPPENING, BUT WHAT IS 
TAKING SO LONG IF ALL THAT IS 
NEEDED IS TO EXTEND THE DATE?
IS THIS BECAUSE THE PARAMETERS 
OF THE PROGRAM WILL CHANGE?
>> Answer: WHAT CHANGED IS THE 
ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES OVER THE 
PAST FEW WEEKS.
THE CERB WAS CREATED, AS WE 
KNOW, TO HELP FREEZE THE ECONOMY
SO PEOPLE COULD PROTECT THEIR 
OWN HEALTH AND THE HEALTH OF 
THEIR LOVED ONES, BUT THE 
SITUATION HAS CHANGED OVER THE 
PAST FEW WEEKS.
AS YOU SAID, WE HAD IMPORTANT 
DISCUSSIONS AND THERE WILL BE AN
ANNOUNCEMENT SHORTLY WHICH 
FOCUSES ON THE NEW PARAMETERS.
YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE NEXT FEW 
DAYS.
SO HOW THE CERB WILL BE ABLE TO 
ADAPT TO THE CURRENT CONTEXT.
>> Question: FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
IN THE PAST FOR THIS PROGRAM 
THERE NEEDED TO BE A BILL 
PASSED.
WILL YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE 
HOUSE OF COMMONS IN ORDER TO 
MODIFY THE CERB?
AND IF PARLIAMENT DOESN'T SIT OR
STOPS SITTING THIS WEEK, WILL 
YOU BE ABLE TO DO THIS QUICKLY 
ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT A TIME WHERE THEY 
WON'T BE RECEIVING THEIR BENEFIT
S?
>> Answer: WE'LL HAVE TO BE 
PATIENT BECAUSE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
HAS NOT YET BEEN MADE.
SO THE LEGISLATIVE DETAILS WILL 
HAVE TO BE GIVEN LATER.
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
NEXT QUESTION.
[end of translation]. 
>> Operator: THE NEXT QUESTION 
IS FROM SHARON KIRKY FROM THE 
"NATIONAL POST."
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> Question: DR. TAM, PRIME 
MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON OVER THE 
WEEKEND TALKED ABOUT A 
COMMISSION ON THE TWO-METRE 
DISTANCING AND QUEBEC SAID THEY 
ARE REDUCING THE PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS FOR 
CHILDREN 16 AND URN AND IT'S 
GOING TO REDUCE IT TO 1.5 METRES
IN PLACES THAT PEOPLE DON'T 
TYPICALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER 
LIKE IN MOVIE THEATRES.
CANADA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT 
RECOMMENDS TWO METRES AT THE 
FEDERAL LEVEL.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS 
BASED ON AND WHETHER THAT CAN BE
RELAXED SOMEWHAT.
>> Answer: I THINK, AS EVERYONE 
KNOWS, WE'RE STILL LEARNING 
ABOUT THIS VIRUS AND WE 
ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE REVIEWING 
EVIDENCE AS WE GO ALONG AND 
ADJUSTING GUIDANCE ACCORDINGLY.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THE VIRUS IS 
PRIMARILY SPREAD BY PEOPLE WHO 
ARE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, 
COUGHING, SNEEZING, SHOUTING, 
TALKING.
THE LARGER RESPIRATORY DROPLETS 
WILL FALL CLOSER AND QUICKER TO 
THE GROUND.
WE KNOW THAT IF YOU MAINTAIN A 
DISTANCE OF ONE METRE, YOU CAN 
AVOID SOME OF THESE DROPLETS, 
PERHAPS THE MAJORITY OF THEM, 
BUT TWO METRES IN DISTANCE MEANS
YOU CAN AVOID MORE OF THESE 
PERHAPS LANDING ON YOU.
I THINK AS A MATTER OF A 
GRADATION OF RISK AS WELL.
AT THE SAME TIME, OF COURSE, 
WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR OTHER 
MEASURES THAT CAN BE LAYERED ON 
TOP OF THE PHYSICAL DISTANCING 
MEASURES, INCLUDING, FOR 
EXAMPLE, THE WEARING OF MASKS IF
PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP THE TWO-METRE 
DISTANCE.
BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI-FACETTED 
APPROACH, PEOPLE NEED TO 
EVALUATE THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE
CONTEXT, WHO IS IN THAT 
ENVIRONMENT AND DO A PROPER RISK
ASSESSMENT.
ONE METRE CAN HELP AVOID THOSE 
DROPLETS.
TWO METRES WOULD BE BETTER.
SOME OF IT IS MAYBE ABOUT 
FEASIBILITY IN CERTAIN SETTINGS.
SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF A 
RISK ASSESSMENT APPROACH WHICH 
WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO LEARN AND 
SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS SHOULD
PEOPLE REDUCE THESE MEASURES, 
BUT ABSOLUTELY MAINTAIN ALL THE 
OTHER MEASURES AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT TO DO THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO ONGOING 
SHARING OF BEST PRACTICES AS 
WELL AS EVIDENCE WITH THE OTHER 
CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS.
>> FOLLOW UP. 
>> Question: THANKS.
MY OTHER.  AND YOU TALKED, 
DR. TAM, ABOUT THOSE OTHER 
MEASURES LIKE WEARING A MASK.
THE FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL 
GOVERNMENT IS URGING MASK 
WEARING.
WHY HAVEN'T YOU MANDATED MASK 
WEARING IN INDOOR PLACES LIKE 
GROCERY STORES?
>> Answer: IN DISCUSSION WITH 
OTHER CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS, 
THEY EMPHASIZE PEOPLE HAVE TO 
LISTEN TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SEE 
WHAT VIRUS IS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOME HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED 
COMMUNITY TRANSMISSIONS AND 
OTHERS CLEARLY HAVE AND CONTINUE
TO EXPERIENCE VIRUS 
TRANSMISSION, EVEN AS CASES COME
DOWN.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXERCISE 
THAT FLEXIBILITY, ACCORDING TO 
EVIDENCE AND DATA IN THEIR 
PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WE AGREED 
TO RECOMMEND THE USE OF 
NON-MEDICAL MASKS IN THE CONTEXT
OF COMMUNITIES WHERE THE VIRUS 
IS STILL CIRCULATING OR RECENTLY
CIRCULATING IN AREAS YOU CAN'T 
KEEP THAT PHYSICAL DISTANCE, 
INDOOR ENCLOSED SPACES, GROCERY 
STORES, PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THAT IS A MATTER THAT IS BEING 
DETERMINED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
>> THANK YOU, DR. TAM.
OPERATOR, WE'LL TAKE ONE LAST 
QUESTION ON THE PHONE BEFORE 
TURNING TO THE ROOM.
>> Operator: PLEASE GO AHEAD.
QUESTION FROM TVO.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] 
MR. DUCLOS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT 
ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL BE MADE THIS 
WEEK ON THE CERB.
WHY CAN'T YOU JUST REASSURE 
PEOPLE THAT IT WILL BE EXTENDED 
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR THOSE WHO
STILL NEED IT?
>> Answer: THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF 
QUESTIONS AND ANXIETY REGARDING 
THE CERB.
THE CERB HAD A SIGNIFICANT 
IMPACT ECONOMICALLY AND 
SOCIALLY.
WITHOUT THE CERB, THE ECONOMIC 
SITUATION WOULD BE DIRE AND WE 
WOULD BE FACING A SIGNIFICANT 
SOCIAL CRISIS.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT 
OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF 
ANXIETY.
THIS MORNING MR. TRUDEAU 
REMINDED EVERYONE THAT WE WILL 
ALWAYS BE HERE TO HELP THOSE WHO
NEED IT, THOSE WHO ARE THE MOST 
VULNERABLE, AND THERE WILL BE 
SHORTLY AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THAT.
>> FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, MICHELLE.
>> Question: MR. DUCLOS, YOU 
CAN'T EVEN TELL US TODAY THAT 
YOU'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE CERB?
EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR THIS 
ANNOUNCEMENT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME THIS WEEK.
CAN'T YOU JUST TELL US THAT IT 
WILL BE EXTENDED, EVEN IF YOU 
DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME
TO CONFIRM TODAY?
>> Answer: I THINK THAT YOU CAN 
READ BETWEEN THE LINES.
WHEN MR. TRUDEAU SAID THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE THERE FOR CANADIANS,
IT MEANS THAT SOMETHING IS GOING
TO BE ANNOUNCED, BUT WE WANT TO 
DO THINGS PROPERLY.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY A MATTER OF 
EXTENDING OR CHANGING OR 
ADJUSTING THE CERB, PEOPLE WANT 
TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IS TO COME.
THAT'S WHY WE STILL NEED A FEW 
MORE HOURS, PERHAPS A FEW MORE 
DAYS, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT 
CANADIANS UNDERSTAND WHAT 
MR. TRUDEAU SAID THIS MORNING 
WHEN HE SAID WE'RE GOING TO BE 
THERE TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE, 
INCLUDING PEOPLE FACING ECONOMIC
CHALLENGES.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: A COUPLE OF 
QUESTIONS TO DR. TAM.
WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT 100,000 
CASES.
CANADA IS 12th ON THE LIST IN 
THE WORLD OF NUMBER OF CASES AND
17th FOR NUMBER OF DEATHS.
FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU HAD TO 
GIVE A REPORT CARD TO ALL THE 
EFFORTS DONE IN THIS COUNTRY TO 
TACKLE THIS, WHAT WOULD YOUR 
REPORT CARD BE?
>> Answer: SO I THINK AS WE COME
DOWN THE SIDE OF THIS FIRST 
WAVE, IT IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE 
STOCK OF LESSONS LEARNED AND HOW
WE'VE DONE.
I THINK CANADIANS HAVE DONE AN 
AMAZING JOB IN ALL OF THE 
EFFORTS TO PRACTICE PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING, STAYING AT HOME WHEN
THEY WERE ASKED TO DO SO, AND 
TRYING TO LEARN ALL OF THESE NEW
HYGIENIC MEASURES AND KEEP UP 
WITH IT.
WE NEED TO HAVE A SUSTAINED PATH
FORWARD SO THESE BECOME ACTUAL 
EVERYDAY PRACTICES SO THAT CAN 
BE SUSTAINED.
WE'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT HOW 
THIS VIRUS IS SPREAD.
I THINK IN CANADA, OF COURSE ONE
OF THE BIGGEST LESSONS LEARNED 
IS ABOUT WHO IS MOST SEVERELY 
AFFECTED IN THE VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS.
IN PARTICULAR OUR FIRST WAVE OF 
EPIDEMIC REALLY IMPACTED SENIORS
AND THOSE WHO LIVE IN SENIORS' 
RESIDENCES OR LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES.
THAT HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST 
CONCERN, BUT MORE NEEDS TO BE 
DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T 
OCCUR AND THAT BEST PRACTICE IS 
IN PLACE, INFECTION CONTROL, BUT
ALSO THE CONDITIONS OF LIVING 
AND CONGREGATE LIVING AND HOW WE
TREAT OUR SENIORS IN GENERAL IN 
SOCIETY.
THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY FOR 
GOVERNMENTS, BUT ALSO FOR ALL 
THOSE WHO MANAGE LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES AND ALSO SOCIETY AT LARGE.
THE OTHER ASPECT OF I THINK 
WHERE SPREAD HAS OCCURRED MORE 
RAPIDLY AND ACCELERATED AND IN 
OTHER VULNERABLE SETTINGS.
WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THOSE 
SETTINGS, CONGREGATE SPACES AND 
CROWDED WORK SPACES FOR WORKERS.
WORKERS WHO ARE NOT PAID WELL 
ENOUGH AND HAVE TO TRANSFER 
BETWEEN FACILITIES.
ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE DRIVEN 
THE BIGGER CLUSTERS AND 
OUTBREAKS IN CANADA.
WE NEED TO HAVE LEARNED FROM 
THEM.
AS WE MOVE FORWARDS, WE WANT THE
SURGES NOT TO HAPPEN AGAIN 
BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED ALL OF 
THOSE THINGS, WHICH SOME OF THE 
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE LEARNED AS 
WELL.
SOME OF THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 
WHO HAVE DIFFERENT SETUPS IN 
TERMS OF THEIR ELDER CARE, BUT 
ALSO THESE WORKPLACE PHENOMENA.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH 
EVERYBODY'S HELP IS FLATTEN THE 
CURVE THAT WE DID NOT OVERWHELM 
OUR CARE SYSTEM, BUT WE DID NOT 
DO WELL IN THE LONG-TERM CARE 
SENIORS' SETTINGS. 
>> Question: SECONDLY LOOKING AT
THE CHALLENGES AHEAD, YOU 
MENTIONED CONCERN THAT YOUNG 
PEOPLE ARE COMPLACENT ABOUT MASK
WEARING AND THE LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES AND HORRIFYING SPIKES IN 
THE UNITED STATES.
WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES FOR YOU 
AND YOUR COLLEAGUES AS YOU TRY 
TO HANDLE THIS.
HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY THE 
SERIOUSNESS?
ARE THESE HICCUPS, OR IS THERE A
POTENTIAL FOR ONE OF THESE 
CHALLENGES TO KNOCK YOU OFF 
COURSE?
>> Answer: WE CONTINUE TO LEARN 
ABOUT THIS VIRUS AND I THINK THE
FACT THAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT 
HOW THIS VIRUS COULD SPREAD IN A
HIDDEN WAY PEOPLE WITH VERY MILD
SYMPTOMS OR SOMETIMES NO 
SYMPTOMS AT ALL, WHICH COULD BE 
THE CASE IN YOUNGER POPULATIONS.
PEOPLE FORGET AND THE NUMBER OF 
CASES COME DOWN, WHICH IS GREAT,
BUT IT'S THE SUSTAINABILITY OF 
OUR RESPONSE GOING FORWARD THAT 
WILL BE TOUGH.
WE NEED TO KEEP REMINDING 
PEOPLE.
MAYBE USE BEHAVIOURAL SCIENCE 
AND VISUAL CUES HOW YOU KEEP 
THAT PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
YOU'VE SEEN IN PARKS CIRCLES 
BEING DRAWN OR LINES ON THE 
GROUND TO REMIND PEOPLE TO DO 
PHYSICAL DISTANCING BECAUSE IT'S
NOT EASY TO SUSTAIN THAT KIND OF
APPROACH IN PEOPLE'S MINDS, BUT 
IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT 
BECAUSE THE VIRUS HASN'T 
DISAPPEARED.
WE HAVE PROBABILITY LOW IMMUNITY
IN THE POPULATION.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE 
SEROLOGICAL TESTING.
I GOT A QUESTION LAST WEEK, HAS 
THE VIRUS CHANGED, IS IT LESS 
SEVERE OR LESS TRANSMISSIBLE?
NO.
THE VIRUS HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT 
WE HAVE PUT THE RIGHT MEASURES 
IN PLACE.
I THINK TOGETHER WITH THE CHIEF 
MEDICAL OFFICERS WE'RE TRYING TO
THINK WHAT ARE THE SUSTAINABLE 
MEASURES WE CAN KEEP GOING WHILE
AT THE SAME TIME THE KEY IS TO 
BUILD UP ENOUGH HEALTH CARE 
CAPACITY TO CLAMP DOWN -- DETECT
AND CLAMP DOWN ON ANY CASES AND 
CONTACTS.
SOME OF OUR COLLECTIVE READINESS
MEASURES TO REDUCE RESURGENCE IS
IN INCREASING LABORATORY TESTING
CAPACITY, INCREASING CONTACT 
TRACING ABILITIES, AND MAKING 
SURE PEOPLE HAVE A SAFE AND 
APPROPRIATE PLACE TO QUARANTINE 
AND ISOLATE.
SO YOU WILL SEE THOSE MEASURES 
CONTINUALLY BUILT UP.
WE ARE CERTAINLY ONE OF THE 
SCENARIOS WE'RE PREPARING FOR IS
A POTENTIAL SURGE IN CASES COME 
THE FALL AND THE WINTER SEASON 
AND PLAN THAT AHEAD AND ALSO 
PLAN FOR A SCENARIO WHERE 
INFLUENZA MIGHT BE CIRCULATING 
AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'RE ASKING CANADIANS TO REMIND
THEMSELVES THIS IS NOT NORMAL 
TIMES.
WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO BEFORE 
JANUARY 2020 AND EVERYONE, 
INCLUDING YOUNG PERSONS, MUST 
FOLLOW PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE.
>> Question: MINISTER DUCLOS, 
QUESTION FOR YOU, A COUPLE OF 
THEM ABOUT OUR ACCESS TO 
INFORMATION SYSTEM.
THIS MORNING I FILED A REQUEST 
FOR A BRIEFING 10 OR 20 PAGES 
LONG IDENTIFIED BY THE 
DEPARTMENT TRACKING NUMBER.
HERE IS THE RESPONSE I GOT.
WE ARE CONSIDERING YOUR RESPONSE
TO BE PLACED ON HOLD.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
>> Answer: I WOULD SAY THREE 
THINGS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAY AND I 
CAN ALSO FEEL HOW FRUSTRATING IT
MUST BE FOR YOU AND FOR MANY 
OTHER JOURNALISTS TO GET THAT 
TYPE OF ANSWERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE
A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE TO BE 
PLAYED AND YOU NEED THE INPUT.
THE SECOND THING IS WE 
UNDERSTAND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC 
SERVICE THE TIMES ARE 
CHALLENGING.
MANY OF THEM ARE LIVING IN AN 
ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S MORE 
DIFFICULT, GIVEN CURRENT 
TECHNOLOGY, TO HAVE ACCESS TO 
SUPPORT YOUR WORK.
THAT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF 
THE TECHNOLOGY, THE TECHNOLOGY 
THAT IS STILL BEING USED IN THE 
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS 
TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES IT 
DIFFICULT, EVEN IN NORMAL 
CIRCUMSTANCES, TO RESPOND 
APPROPRIATELY AND QUICKLY TO THE
TYPE OF REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE.
THE THIRD I WOULD SAY THAT WE 
WILL BE ANSWERING VERY SOON INTO
A REVIEW PROCESS AROUND THE 
ACCESS TO INFORMATION LAW AND 
THE ASSOCIATED CHANGES THAT NEED
TO BE PUT IN PLACE, I'VE 
DISCUSSED WITH THE INFORMATION 
COMMISSIONER THAT SHE HAS ON HER
MIND.
WE WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO 
WORK WITH HER AND TO IMPROVE THE
QUALITY OF THE SERVICES YOU 
RECEIVE.
>> Question: THANK YOU.
NOTING HOW COMMON THE PHRASING 
IS AND THE RESPONSE IS ACROSS 
ALL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS 
HANDLING THESE 
ACCESS-TO-INFORMATION REQUESTS 
AND GIVEN THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT 
LOOKS TO TREASURY BOARD FOR 
GUIDELINES ON PROCESSING, IT 
SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO CONCLUDE
THAT THERE WAS A MEMO FROM YOU 
TO ATIP RELEASING THEM OF THEIR 
DUTY TO FULFIL THESE OBLIGATIONS
AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT?
>> Answer: THERE ARE TWO THINGS 
IN YOUR LINE OF QUESTIONING.
THE FIRST ONE WAS A MEMO.
THERE WAS A GUIDELINE SENT BY 
TREASURY AND MYSELF TO PUBLIC 
SERVANTS JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO 
REMINDING THEM OF THE 
INFORMATION TO DO THE IMPORTANT 
JOB THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO 
SUPPORT YOUR WORK, THAT DESPITE 
THE EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES, 
THAT JOB MUST CONTINUE.
THE SECOND LINE OF QUESTIONING 
IS AROUND THE FACT -- THE VIEW 
THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING THIS AS 
SERIOUSLY AS WE SHOULD.
I THINK THIS -- ALTHOUGH I 
UNDERSTAND AGAIN THE FRUSTRATION
THAT YOU WOULD FEEL, I CAN 
ASSURE YOU THAT TREASURY BOARD 
HAS MADE CLEAR AND PUBLIC 
SERVANTS HAVE UNDERSTOOD THEY 
NEED TO CONTINUE THAT IMPORTANT 
JOB.
DESPITE THE POSSIBLE LENS OF THE
PANDEMIC, IT WILL BECOME EASIER 
TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
THERE WAS A LONGER-TERM AGENDA 
TO IMPROVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND, 
TO BE FRANK, THE ATTITUDES OF 
GOVERNMENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR 
AREA.
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
>> Question: GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR MINISTER 
DUCLOS.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR GOVERNMENT 
SAYS TODAY IT'S LOOKING AT WAYS 
TO EXTEND CERB, BUT I'M LOOKING 
AT DETAILS HOW YOU'RE WORKING ON
A PLAN TO TRANSITION MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE OFF THIS PROGRAM.
HOW EXACTLY WILL YOUR GOVERNMENT
DECIDE WHEN CERB CAN END?
>> Answer: TRANSITIONING IS A 
KEY AND THE RIGHT WORD.
INITIALLY TRANSITION WAS NOT IN 
OUR MINDS.
IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT I SAID IN 
FRENCH EARLIER TO MAKE SURE 
PEOPLE HAD THE ABILITY TO STAY 
HOME AND TO PUT FOOD ON THE 
TABLE.
THERE COMES A TIME AND THAT HAS 
ARRIVED WHERE WE THINK ABOUT 
SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY.
THE CERB, LIKE OTHER SOCIAL 
SUPPORT PROGRAMS, MUST BE THERE 
TO SUPPORT BOTH WORKERS AND JOB 
CREATION.
SO THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT I 
WOULD SAY IS A CHANGING ONE, A 
RAPIDLY CHANGING ONE, WHERE WE 
MUST INDEED TAKE INTO ACCOUNT 
THE SOCIAL IMPACT OF CERB, VERY 
SIGNIFICANT.
THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT 
SOCIAL CRISIS NOW IF CERB HAD 
NOT EXISTED.
THE ECONOMIC CRISIS WHICH CERB 
IS HELPING TO REDUCE.
AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE 
TECHNOLOGICAL CHALLENGES.
YOU KNOW THAT HAD WE RELIED ON 
THE E.I., THE EMPLOYMENT 
INSURANCE, SYSTEM IN APRIL, IT 
WOULD HAVE TAKEN ALMOST TWO 
YEARS FOR THE 8 MILLION 
CANADIANS TO BE GIVEN SUPPORT.
SO THAT OBVIOUSLY WASN'T 
POSSIBLE AT THAT TIME.
SO WHILE WE ENVISIONED 
TRANSITIONING AND WE'LL BE, AS I
SAID, ANNOUNCING IMPORTANT 
THINGS AROUND THAT IN THE NEXT 
FEW DAYS, THE PRIME MINISTER 
SAID THAT THIS MORNING, THERE 
WILL BE CONNECTED ANNOUNCEMENTS 
ON HOW WE MAKE SURE THE 
TECHNOLOGY SUPPORTS THAT 
TRANSITION. 
>> Question: IS YOUR GOVERNMENT 
CONSIDERING ANY SPECIFIC OPTIONS
THAT WOULD REMOVE POWERS AND 
DEFUND POLICE?
>> Answer: WELL, THIS IS OF 
COURSE PART OF A VERY BROAD AND 
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT WE 
MUST ALL HAVE INCLUDING THE 
POLICE FORCE.
I THINK AGAIN THE PRIME MINISTER
HAS MADE QUITE CLEAR HIS VIEWS 
ON THAT JUST THIS WEEK.
WHAT HE'S SAID AND WHAT I COULD 
REMIND EVERYONE OF, THERE ARE 
OTHER WAYS, IN ADDITION TO 
MAKING SURE THAT POLICE FORCES 
HAVE BOTH THE RIGHT SIGNALS, THE
RIGHT EXPECTATIONS, THE RIGHT 
OBLIGATIONS, AND THE RIGHT TOOLS
TO WORK WITH AND ON, THERE ARE 
ALSO MANY IMPORTANT MEASURES 
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN 
USE.
I WOULD SIGNAL THAT ONE OF THEM 
IS THROUGH THE PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE PUBLIC SERVICE HAS 
DIVERSIFIED OVER THE YEARS, BUT 
I'VE LOOKED AT THE RECENT 
NUMBERS AND WE NEED TO AND CAN 
DO A LOT BETTER.
WITH THE CLERK AND MY COLLEAGUES
AROUND CABINET, WE'LL BE LOOKING
CAREFULLY BOTH AT THE NUMBERS 
AND WHAT WE WANT THE SITUATION 
TO BE IN THE RELATIVELY SHORT 
TERM.
>> Rosemary: IF YOU WANT TO 
CONTINUE WATCHING THIS PRESS 
CONFERENCE OR THE COVID 
COMMITTEE WHICH IS TAKING PLACE 
RIGHT NOW, THOUGH THE PRIME 
MINISTER IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE, 
YOU CAN GO TO OUR cbc.ca.
LET ME BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES 
VASSY KAPELOS AND DAVID 
COCHRANE.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD 
THAT COMMENT THAT IT WOULD TAKE 
TWO YEARS TO USE THE E.I. SYSTEM
INSTEAD OF CERB.
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE 
COMPLICATION OF NOW TRYING TO 
MOVE PEOPLE OFF CERB ONTO E.I. 
AND TO GET ALL OF THAT WORKING 
TOGETHER IS WHAT WE WILL HEAR 
MORE ABOUT THIS WEEK.
>> Vassy: I HADN'T HEARD THAT 
EITHER, BUT THEY ANECDOTALLY 
TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY 
INTRODUCED THE CERB IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
THAT IS THE PRIMARY QUESTION 
THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TACKLING 
RIGHT NOW.
HOW DO YOU MOVE PEOPLE WHO ARE 
HITTING THAT FOUR-MONTH 
ELIGIBILITY WALL OFF THE CERB 
ONTO E.I. IF THEY DON'T HAVE A 
PLACE TO WORK.
IT'S HARD TO GAUGE HOW MANY OF 
THOSE PEOPLE WILL STILL NOT HAVE
EMPLOYMENT IN A MONTH OR TWO.
THE RATE OF REOPENINGS HAS 
PICKED UP, ESPECIALLY IN CERTAIN
PROVINCES THAT ARE THE MOST 
POPULACE, LIKE ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC.
OTHER PROVINCES OPENED A FEW 
WEEKS AGO.
AS THAT HAPPENS, LOTS OF 
BUSINESSES ARE REHIRING AND 
MOVING ON TO THE WAGE SUBSIDY 
PROGRAM.
THERE IS NOTHING CONCLUSIVE.
FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE 
ONTO E.I.
THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY FOR THE 
E.I. SYSTEM IS DIFFICULT AT THE 
BEST OF TIMES.
WE'VE HEARD OF PEOPLE WHO GO ON 
MAT LEAVE WHO HAVE TROUBLE 
ACCESSING AND SITTING ON WAIT 
LINES.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR THE 
GOVERNMENT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE 
GOING TO DO.
MINISTER DUCLOS ALONG WITH THE 
PRIME MINISTER WOULD NOT SAY 
SPECIFICALLY, HERE IS HOW LONG 
WE'RE EXTENDING THE CERB OR WHAT
WILL BE READY FOR PEOPLE.
WE DO KNOW THERE ARE POLITICAL 
NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON IN THE 
BACKGROUND.
MINISTER DUCLOS WAS PRESSED HARD
BY OUR COLLEAGUES, THAT YOU 
CAN'T SAY 100% THIS WILL BE 
EXTENDED.
THE PRIME MINISTER HINTED AND 
WAS PRETTY EXPLICIT THAT THE 
CERB WILL BE THERE FOR PEOPLE 
WHO NEED IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE
ARE A LOT OF QUALIFYING POINTS 
TO THAT AND QUESTIONS THAT ARISE
FROM THAT STATEMENT, FOR HOW 
LONG, TO WHAT EXTENT, WILL IT BE
THE SAME AMOUNT, WILL THE 
QUALIFICATIONS WILL THE SAME, 
CAN YOU EARN $1,000 WHILE 
RECEIVING THE CERB.
WILL THE ATTESTATION REMAIN THE 
SAME.
I FOUND THAT INTERESTING.
IT DOES UNDERSCORE WHY THE CERB 
WAS SO NECESSARY.
I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF IT IS 
STILL NOW.
I KNOW FOR THOSE 2 MILLION 
PEOPLE IT IS.
GIVEN THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES
WITH THE E.I., IF ALL THOSE 8 
MILLION CANADIANS HAD TO GO 
THROUGH THE E.I. SYSTEM, THE 
FACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN 
THEM TWO YEARS TO GET THEM WHAT 
THEY NEEDED, THAT UNDERSCORES 
WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO USE
THE CERB.
>> Rosemary: IT WILL BE 
INTERESTING TO NOTE TOO WHETHER 
YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU 
DON'T HAVE A JOB TO GO BACK TO 
OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WORK.
I'LL GIVE PEOPLE SOME NOTES 
AROUND MANUFACTURING SALES.
THE OTHER THING THE PRIME 
MINISTER SUGGESTED IS SOME JOBS 
WON'T BE THERE.
MANUFACTURING SALES FELL BY 
28.5%.
85% OF ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE 
MANUFACTURING SECTOR REPORTED 
THEIR ACTIVITIES WERE IMPACTED 
BY COVID-19.
THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE DOING 
THAT WORK, MAYBE THEY'LL GO 
BACK, BUT IT WILL BE DIFFERENT 
AND SLOWER AND IMPACTED FOR ALL 
SORTS OF REASONS BECAUSE PEOPLE 
AREN'T BUYING.
DAVID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT 
TO TOUCH ON THAT.
>> David: I'M TRYING TO GET A 
SENSE ON WHERE THE CERB 
EXTENSION WILL BE.
I THINK IT'S SAFE TO CONCLUDE 
THERE WILL BE AN EXTENSION.
THEY'VE SIGNALLED IT LOUDLY AND 
CLEARLY.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT WILL THEY 
GET SUPPORT FROM THE OPPOSITION 
TO DO.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE FALLBACK 
POSITION IS A ROLL OVER.
AT WORST THE THING THE 
GOVERNMENT CAN DO IS EXTEND THE 
CERB FOR A SET NUMBER OF WEEKS 
UNDER THE EXISTING TERMS.
THE CHALLENGE OF THAT IS THEY'VE
BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE THE 
PARAMETERS TO BRING IN SEASONAL 
WORKERS.
THIS WAS IN THE LEGISLATION THAT
DIDN'T GET CONSENT LAST WEEK.
AND THEY NEED TO MAKE CHANGES 
THERE.
THE NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING ARE 
ON CHANGES TO COME UP WITH A 
LENGTH OF TIME, MAYBE THEY CAN 
GET THE N.D.P. TO SUPPORT THEM 
TO COVER MORE PEOPLE.
AS A NOD TO THE BUSINESS 
COMMUNITY AND THE CONSERVATIVES,
THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO 
HELP WITH THE TRANSITION AND 
INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO
WORK.
THERE WAS A LOT OF STRUGGLE 
BUILDING THIS THING IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
FIRST THERE WAS TWO PROGRAMS AND
THEN ONE.
PULLING THESE PROGRAMS DOWN OR 
TAKING THEM BECOME WILL BE 
DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE UNEVEN 
NATURE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE 
ECONOMIC SITUATION ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE 
SIGNIFICANT PERMANENT STRUCTURAL
CHANGES TO THESE TOO QUICKLY 
BECAUSE WHAT IF THE CASES SPIKE 
AGAIN AND YOU HAVE TO GO INTO A 
SERIOUS LOCKDOWN.
THIS IS THE DANCE THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DO, BUT 
WITHOUT QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO 
SEE AN EXTENSION OF CERB, EVEN 
IF IT IS THE EXISTING PROGRAM 
UNDER NEW TERMS FOR A NEW PERIOD
OF TIME WHILE THEY WORK OUT A 
WAY TO GET POLITICAL SUPPORT FOR
THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES. 
>> Rosemary: IF YOU ARE WORRIED 
ABOUT YOUR CERB COMING TO AN 
END, STAY TUNED THIS WEEK.
WE WILL HAVE SOME DETAILS FROM 
THE GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WON'T 
LEAVE YOU HIGH AND DRY.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR HELP, 
VASSY KAPELOS, HOST OF "POWER & 
POLITICS," AND DAVID COCHRANE.
WHILE THE PANDEMIC HAS BEEN 
DEVASTATING, IT'S ALSO BEEN 
INSPIRING.
THERE IS A CROWD-SOURCING 
WEBSITE THAT MAP  MAPS COVID HO 
SPOTS.
HE IS 18.
>> Interview: THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: YOU WANTED TO HELP 
SO YOU CREATED A CROWD-SOURCING 
WEBSITE TO GIVE US A SENSE OF 
WHERE THE VIRUS IS AND WHERE 
IT'S GOING.
>> Interview: YEAH, SO WE 
STARTED OFF IN CANADA AND TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND HOW CAN WE 
LEVERAGE PRE-SYMPTOM DATA, 
CO-MORBIDITIES AND OTHER DATA 
THAT MIGHT SAY WHY SOME REGIONS 
ARE MORE HIT.
WE EARLY ON PARTNERED WITH THE 
CITY OF MONTREAL TO BE THE 
OFFICIAL ASSESSMENT TOOL FOR 
THAT CITY AS WELL.
>> Rosemary: IT'S flatten.ca IF 
YOU WANT TO CHECK IT OUT.
DID YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT 
PUBLIC HEALTH OR EPIDEMIOLOGY OR
ANY OF THAT STUFF?
>> Interview: NOT PARTICULARLY.
DON'T HAVE AN EXTENSIVE MEDICAL 
BACKGROUND.
I'M AN ENGINEERING STUDENT.
DEFINITELY ALWAYS TRYING TO 
LEARN MORE AND TRY TO WORK WITH 
OUR TEAM USING EVERY DAY AS A 
LEARNING OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN 
MORE ABOUT THIS SPACE.
DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR EP 
DETERMINE  -- EPIDEMIOLOGY 
BACKGROUND.
>> Rosemary: NOW YOU ARE HELPING
IN THE CITY OF MOGADISHU.
TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE.
>> Interview: IN CANADA WE 
REALIZED EARLY ON THE NUCLEIC 
ACID TESTING AND SEROLOGICAL 
TESTING IS INCREASING.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE 
LOWER-INCOME CITIES, THERE IS A 
LACK OF DATA.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A 
HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATION ON THE
GROUND IN MOGADISHU.
THEY HAVE 400 VOLUNTEERS ON THE 
GROUND USING THE FLATTEN 
PLATFORM TO COLLECT DATA AROUND 
HEALTH, SOCIO-ECONOMIC, 
DEMOGRAPHIC DATA TO UNDERSTAND 
THE POPULATION, NOT JUST FOR 
COVID-19, BUT FOR THE OTHER 
CRISES THAT THEY'RE FACING AND 
LEVERAGING THIS DATA TO USE IN 
THE FUTURE. 
>> Rosemary: TO LET POLICY 
MAKERS AND THE GOVERNMENT 
PREPARE FOR THE PANDEMIC AND 
OTHER VIRUSES, AS YOU POINT OUT.
>> Interview: EXACTLY.
>> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU THINK 
IS -- WHERE ELSE CAN THIS DATA 
BE HELPFUL, NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT 
THIS PLATFORM AND YOU'RE USING 
IT IN SOMALIA, YOU'RE USING IT 
HERE.
HOW ELSE COULD IT BE HELPFUL?
>> Interview: THE OPEN SIGN 
ASPECT OF IT, WITH THE SUPPORT 
OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WE'RE 
WORKING WITH IN SOMALIA, TO MAKE
THIS RESEARCH AVAILABLE FOR THE 
WORLD SO THAT OTHER AFRICAN 
COUNTRIES COULD BENEFIT.
WE KNOW DATA IS A COMMON 
DENOMINATOR IN A LOT OF THE 
EFFORTS WE'RE SEEING.
LET'S TRY AND EMPOWER THESE 
LOCAL AUTHORITIES 
INTERNATIONALLY TO DO SOMETHING 
SIMILAR TO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT 
IN MOGADISHU IS DOING AS WELL. 
>> Rosemary: YOU'RE NOT JUST 18?
>> Interview: I'M TURNING 19 IN 
A MONTH.
>> Rosemary: I HOPE YOU FEEL 
PROUD OF YOURSELF.
IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU'VE PUT 
YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND YOUR 
KNOWLEDGE TO WORK IN THIS WAY.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MAKING A
DIFFERENCE?
>> Interview: YEAH, IT'S 
IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT'S NOT 
JUST ME.
WE HAVE A TEAM OF SO MANY 
DIFFERENT STUDENTS DEDICATING 
THEIR ENTIRE LIFE TO FLATTEN AND
NOT JUST MYSELF.
THERE IS A GROUP OF STUDENTS, 
FELLOW COLLEAGUES AT THE 
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO, AS WELL 
AS OPENING UP THE OPPORTUNITY 
FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO 
SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN SOURCE.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN, DO 
CONTACT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN SOURCE. 
>> Rosemary: IT'S flatten.ca 
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS 
YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEBSITE TERM 
HOW THE VIRUS IS TRACKING FROM 
DATA THAT'S BEEN UPLOADED.
SHREY, WHAT A HEART-WARMING 
STORY.
IT'S GREAT.
YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF 
YOURSELF.
>> Interview: THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Rosemary: THANKS FOR COMING 
ON AND THANKS TO ALL THE TEAM.
THAT'S SHREY JAIN AND HIS TEAM 
DOING flatten.ca.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING 
DR. THERESA TAM SAID, THEY ARE 
THINKING ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE
RESPONSE.
HOW CAN EVERYONE KEEP UP THESE 
MEASURES THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO 
DO.
THAT REMAINS ONE OF THE BIG 
PRIORITIES.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON.
COVERAGE CONTINUES HERE ON CBC 
NEWS NETWORK NOW.
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