♪ [THEME MUSIC] ♪
>> HELLO. I'M SHERYL MCCARTHY
OF THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW
YORK. WELCOME TO ONE TO ONE.
FOR YEARS, JOURNALIST MARIA
HINOJOSA HAS FOCUSED ON TELLING
THE UNTOLD STORIES OF 
AMERICANS OF VARIED ETHNIC, 
RELIGIOUS AND ECONOMIC 
BACKGROUNDS AND CHRONICLING
THE ACHIVEMENTS OF SOME OF THE
NATIONS UNSUNG HEROS.
IN HER WEEKLY RADIO SERIES, 
LATINO USA, ON NATIONAL PUBLIC
RADIO, SHE HAS EXAMINED HOW THE
NATIONS POPULATION IS CHANGING.
AND SHE WAS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER
AND ACHOR OF AMERICA BY THE 
NUMBERS, THE NEW DECIDERS. 
A PBS SPECIAL THAT LOOKS AT THE 
EMERGING GROUPS OF VOTERS 
THAT ARE LIKELY TO HAVE AN
IMPACT ON THIS YEARS ELECTIONS.
MARIA HAS SEEN THE CHANGING
FACES OF AMERICA AND WE'LL 
TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE DISCOVERED
IN THIS HALF HOUR.
WELCOME.
>> HEY.
>> THE THEME OF AMERICA BY THE 
NUMBERS SEEMS TO BE THAT 
BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT 
DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFTS THAT HAVE 
OCCURED IN RECENT DECADES, 
EMERGING GROUPS HAVE ACQUIRED 
MORE POLITICAL POWER AND SOME 
OLD GROUPS ARE VOTING IN 
DIFFERENT WAYS. SO LET'S TALK
ABOUT SOME OF THOSE GROUPS.
NOW, AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR A 
LONG TIME WERE THE LARGEST 
MINORTIY VOTING GROUP IN THE 
COUNTRY. ARE THEY STILL? 
>> WELL, AND THEY ARE VOTING
ACTUALLY EXTRAORDINARILY SHERYL.
IT'S NOT REALLY EXTRAORDINARILY
IT'S TO BE EXPECTED. THEY'RE 
OUTPACING WHITE VOTERS IN 
TERMS OF THEIR PARTICIPATION 
RATES. YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN 
VOTERS IN THE STATE OF NORTH 
CAROLINA FOR EXAMPLE, HUGELY 
ENGAGED AND AT THE SAME TIME 
AND SOME QUESTION WHETHER IT 
WAS IN RESPONSE TO THIS, 
YOU SEE NORTH CAROLINA TRYING
TO CREATE ONE OF THE STRICTIST 
VOTING ID LAWS THAT THEY'VE 
EVER SEEN. WAS THAT IN RESPONSE 
TO THIS HIGH TURN OUT FROM 
AFRICAN AMERICAN YOUTH VOTERS? 
WE DON'T KNOW. BUT
CLEARLY THE NEW DECIDERS WAS 
REALLY ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT 
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK OF AS 
SMALL GROUPS BUT ACTUALLY CARRY 
TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL.
LATINO EVANGELICALS,
ARAB AMERICAN MUSLIM VOTERS IN 
OHIO, AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS IN
A STATE LIKE NORTH CAROLINA.
AND ASIAN AMERICANS IN SOUTHERN 
CALIFORNIA.
>> RIGHT, NOW -- AND IT WAS VERY
INTERESTING TO LEARN THAT THE 
RATE OF VOTER TURNOUT AMONG 
AFRICAN AMERICANS EXCEEDS THAT 
OF WHITES AND PART OF THAT WAS 
THE BARACK OBAMA INFLUENCE AND 
REALLY TURNED OUT FOR HIM.
AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE 
TRADITIONALLY VOTED DEMOCRATIC 
AND THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.
BUT THE ISSUES THAT CONCERN THEM
THE MOST HAVE CHANGED.
>> RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT WAS FASCINATING IS
FOR THIS SPECIAL WE WENT TO 
NORTH CAROLINA.
IT'S A HUGELY IMPORTANT STATE IN
TERMS OF THE PRESIDENTIAL 
ELECTION AND WE FOUND WE WERE IN
GREENSBORO, SOME VIEWERS MIGHT 
REMEMBER THE GREENSBORO FIVE.
THOSE WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS 
WHO WERE SHOT DEAD IN THE 
MIDDLE OF A NON VIOLENT PROTEST
BY ACTUALLY WHITE RACISTS IN THE
TOWN. IT'S WHERE THE WOOLWORTH
PROTESTS STARTED.
THE LUNCH COUNTER PROTESTS.
SO, IT HAS A LONG HISTORY OF 
POLITICAL ACTIVISM AND THE YOUNG
AFRICAN AMERICANS WE FOUND THERE
WERE DEEPLY ENGAGED POLITICALLY 
IN CREATING BLACK LIVES MATTER 
AND ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
WE FOUND THE YOUNGEST REPUBLICAN
TO THE NORTH CAROLINA GOP 
CONVENTION.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT THESE 
POLITICALLY ENGAGED YOUNG PEOPLE
WOULD BE ENCOURAGING AND 
FLOCKING TO THE POLLS IN 
NOVEMBER AND THEY'RE NOT 
NECESSARILY.
EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE OUT THERE 
DOING THE BLACK LIVES MATTER. 
>> ABSOLUTE LE.
THEY'RE SAYING THE POLITICS THAT
MATTER FOR US, THEY'RE TRYING TO
TELL US THAT PRESIDENTIAL 
POLITICS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT 
MATTER AND OUR ENGAGEMENT AS 
ACTIVISTS IS AS IMPORTANT.
AND ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, 20 
YEARS OLD, HE WAS SAYING I'M A 
REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST BUT I CAN'T 
VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AND ON THE BLACK LIVES SIDE, 
WE'RE ACTIVELY ENGAGED BUT WE 
HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CANDIDATE.
WHEN WE WERE FILMING THEM EARLY 
IN THE SUMMER THEY WERE LIKE 
WE'RE NOT SURE IF ANY OF US ARE 
ACTUALLY GOING TO THE POLLS.
>> 18 TO 34, THE LARGEST 
GENERATION IN HISTORY AND THEY 
NOW OUT PACE BABY BOOMERS.
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
SO WHAT IMPACT ARE THEY HAVING 
ON ELEC TORL POLITICS?
ARE THEY POLITICALLY INVOLVED?
YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING YES BUT IN
DIFFERENT WAYS.
>> I'M SO BLESSED THAT I HAVE 
TRAVELLED TO ALL 50 STATES AND 
JUST IN THIS YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF 
CITIES.
BUT JUST IN THE FALL I'VE DONE 
MAYBE 15 TO 18 DIFFERENT CITIES.
AND HERE'S WHAT I FIND.
I FIND PERHAPS WHAT THE POLLS 
DON'T EXACTLY GET AT WHICH IS 
IT'S VERY MIXED.
I FIND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE 
INCREDIBLY ENGAGED AND 
COMPLETELY COMMITTED AND I'M 
GOING TO VOTE.
I FIND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO SAY I'M 
NOT GOING TO VOTE.
I'M OUT.
I FIND -- I HAVEN'T FOUND A LOT 
OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY WHO ARE TALKING 
ABOUT SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP 
BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM ON COLLEGE 
CAMPUSES.
SO, IT'S NOT THE WORKING CLASS 
YOUNG AMERICAN, IT'S ACTUALLY 
HAPPENING ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES 
WHERE THEY'RE ENDORSING DONALD 
TRUMP.
SO, LIKE ALL OF US, THIS IS A 
PERIOD OF EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE 
AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING
TO SHAKE OUT.
IT'S FASCINATING AS JOURNALISTS.
OUR PROFOUND CURIOSITY, WHAT 
INCREDIBLE STORIES TO TELL.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT 13 TO 
17% OF LATINO VOTERS THAT WOULD 
ENDORSE AND VOTE FOR DONALD 
TRUMP.
WHO ARE THEY?
AND THE MILLENNIALS, THEY HAVE A
DIFFERENT SET OF ISSUES.. YOU 
TALKED ABOUT THE BLACK LIVES 
MATTERS.
AND THE LGBT THING, THE 
TRANSGENDER THING IS PROBABLY A 
BIG ISSUE AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE AS 
WELL.
>> AND THE ISSUE OF UNEKAL 
TREATMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>> WELL, DEFINITELY.
>> BUT WHEN I SAY THAT, I'M 
ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT LATINO 
AND ASIAN PEOPLE ENGAGING ON THE
ISSUE THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER 
HAS BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT.
I WAS ON THE RESERVATION IN 
NORTH DAKOTA, WHICH IS REALLY 
HARD TO GET TO AND WHICH RAISES 
ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS IN TERMS 
OF WHAT THAT PROTEST LOOKS LIKE.
THERE WERE BLACK LIVES MATTERS 
ACTIVISTS THERE PROTESTING.
BUT THE STATISTIC IS THAT
ACTUALLY
NATIVE AMERICANS HAVE THE 
HIGHEST RATE OF BEING SHOT BY 
POLICE OFFICERS.
SO, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF 
RELATIONSHIPS THAT NEED TO BE
BROUGHT FORWARD.
ON THE ONE HAND, A LOT OF 
ENGAGEMENT BY YOUNG PEOPLE AND 
ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S 
ALMOST -- WE'RE OUT.
I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM 
"IT'S RIGGED."
BUT WE'RE NOT ICLUDED IN THE 
PROCESS.
>> IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE WHICH IS SORT 
OF TRADITIONALLY WHAT YOU HAVE
FROM YOUNG PEOPLE.
ARAB AMERICANS, 
ONLY 1% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS 
NATIONALLY -- AND I WAS 
SURPRISED THAT THE CENSUS
DEFINES THEM AS WHITE.
NOW, THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY 
BEEN CONSERVATIVE.
BUT AFTER 9/11, YOU GOT THIS 
SHIFT AND NOW TWICE AS MANY 
ARAB AMERICANS IDENTIFY WITH 
DEMOCRATS THAN WITH REPUBLICANS.
SO, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
>> SO, WE WENT TO CLEVELAND, 
OHIO, WHICH HAS THE 8TH LARGEST 
ARAB AMERICAN POPULATION IN
THE COUNTRY. IT'S ABOUT 2% OF
THE POPULATION OF OHIO.
BARACK OBAMA WON THE STATE OF 
OHIO BY JUST AROUND 2%.
THAT'S WHY 2% MATTERS.
THESE ARE ARAB AMERICANS, 
CATEGORIZED AS WHITE BY THE 
CENSUS.
MORE POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE.
9/11 HAPPENS, GEORGE W. BUSH, 
THE PATRIOT ACT, THE IMMIGRATION
OF MUSLIM AMERICANS HAPPENS AND 
THEY TURN AWAY LIKE THIS FROM 
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. SO WHAT WE
SAW IN CLEVELAND WAS THAT THAT 
MOSQUE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS THEY'RE 
DOING VOTER REGISTRATION EVERY 
SINGLE FRIDAY AFTER PRAYER.
AND PEOPLE WERE SIGNING UP 
BECAUSE ISLAMAPHOBIA, WHAT 
THEY'RE FEELING IS BEING USED BY
YOUNG PEOPLE TO SAY THAT'S WHY 
YOU HAVE TO VOTE.
SO, THAT'S GOING TO BE A 
FASCINATING STORY.
>> AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS 
ISLAMAPHOIA AND DONALD TRUMP 
ENCOURAGING IT.
>> AND WE WERE IN A DINER FIVE 
MINUTES AWAY FROM THE LARGEST 
MOSQUE, A DINER FILL WOULD WHITE
OHIO VOTERS WHO HAVE NEIGHBORS 
WHO ARE ARAB AMERICAN AND MUSLIM
AMERICAN.
ABOUT HALF OF THEM SAID THEY 
WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR TRUMP AND
I SAID WHAT ABOUT YOUR MUSLIM 
AND ARAB NEIGHBORS AND THEY SAID
HE DOESN'T REALLY MEAN IT WHEN 
HE SAYS THOSE THINGS AND THAT 
WOULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE.
BUT FOR THE MUSLIM AND ARAB 
VOTERS, THEY'RE THINKING WE HAVE
TO VOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT 
DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ARAB AMERICANS 
RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE, 
GET ENGAGED AT THAT LEVEL?
>> WE FOUND THE ONLY EGYPTIAN 
AMERICAN RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
SHE IS RUNNING FOR A JUDGESHIP 
IN OHIO.
AND SHE RAN ONCE AND LOST BY A 
SMALL PERCENTAGE POINT AND WHAT 
MOTIVATED HER TO RUN AGAIN WAS 
ISLAMAPHOBIA SHE EXPERIENCED THE
FIRST TIME.
SHE SAYS I CANNOT STOP THIS FROM
GETTING ME ENGAGED IN POLITICS.
IT HAS GOT TO GET ME MORE 
ENGAGED AND I'VE GOT TO WIN.
>> YOU HAVE LATINOS ELIGIBLE TO 
VOTE AND THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY
VOTED RATHER CONSERVATIVELY.
IS THAT CHANGING?
>> WELL, THIS IS A FASCINATING 
GROUP OF PEOPLE, RIGHT.
LATINOS, IN TERMS OF THE SMALL 
BUSINESS, PULL YOURSELF UP BY 
YOUR BOOT STRAPS WE'RE GOING TO 
MAKE OUR AMERICAN DREAM DO FALL 
INTO -- WHAT USED TO BE SOMEWHAT
CONSERVATIVE.
THEY ALSO BELIEVE FIRMLY IN THE 
ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
SO, THAT'S WHY THE ISSUE OF 
WHERE LATINO VOTERS END UP IS 
INTERESTING AND COMPLEX.
WE'RE NOT JUST ONE THING.
BUT IN TERMS OF DONALD TRUMP, I 
THINK WHAT HE HAS DONE IS REALLY
SOLIDIFIED AGAIN, LIKE THE ARAB 
AMERICAN VOTERS THE TURNING AWAY
FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
>> WITH THE ANTI-IMMIGRANT.
>> AND THE ANTIMEXICAN, 
ANTIWOMEN.
YOU MIGHT SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT 
IN TERMS OF LATINO AND MAKE 
GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT A CULTURE,
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S 
RESPECT AND RESPECT FOR WOMEN 
AND NOT JUST YOUR MOTHERS OR 
YOUR DAUGHTERS.
THERE'S A KIND OF RESPECT AND 
WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BROUGHT 
INTO THIS ELECTION WILL TURN 
AWAY THOSE EVANGELICAL VOTERS 
WHO ARE LATINOS AND THAT'S MY 
CONCERN.
IF YOU HAVE THESE GROUPS TURNING
AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, 
WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE 
REPUBLICAN PARTY?
AND I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT AN 
ACTIVE DEMOCRACY HAS MORE THAN 
ONE VIABLE PARTY. 
>> WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND 
BE BACK WITH MORE WITH 
MARIA HINOJOSA AFTER THE
FOLLOWING MESSAGE.
>>> WELCOME BACK TO "ONE TO ONE"
I'M SHERYL McCARTHY OF THE CITY
UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK 
AND I'M TALKING WITH JOURNALIST 
MARIA HINOJOSA. ANCHOR AND 
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF LATINO
USA ON NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO.
SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
LATINO'S WHO SUPPORT DONALD 
TRUMP, WHAT PERCENTAGE AGAIN? 
>> ANYWHERE FROM 13 TO 17 AND 
THERE IS A HIGH OF MAYBE 23 AT 
ONE POINT.
>> SO, WHY TO YOU THINK THEY'RE 
SUPPORTING TRUMP?
>> WELL, LATINO VOTERS WHO I'VE 
INTERVIEWED TALK A LOT ABOUT 
PARTY.
SO THEY SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN 
PARTY.
SO, THEY BASICALLY ARE GOING TO 
FALL IN LINE WITH THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
THIS WAS BEFORE THE DONALD TRUMP
TURNING AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
AND I'M TALKING LIKE PARTY. THIS
IS MY PARTY.
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PARTY 
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF 
THE PARTY. I FOUND SOME LATINO 
TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO ARE A 
POLICE OFFICER WHO LIKES HIS LAW
AND ORDER.
I'VE MET LATINO AND LATINA 
BUSINESS OWNERS WHO SEE A GREAT 
BUSINESS OWNER.
BUT I AM FASCINATED BY THIS PART
OF THE EELECTORATE TO BE HONEST 
WITH YOU.
WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE 
ELECTION AND THE OUTCOME, I WANT
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHO THOSE 
LATINO VOTERS ARE WHO WOULD SEE 
THEMSELVES REFLECTED IN THE 
DONALD TRUMP CANDIDACY.
BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, 
THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM AND 
HIS VIEWS ARE NOT GOING 
ANYWHERE.
THEY'RE A PART OF OUR COUNTRY 
JUST AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID.
THESE IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT GOING 
ANYWHERE.
SO, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THIS 
OUT.
>> YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF LATINO
EVANGELICALS.
THEY'RE 30% OF ALL AMERICANS AND
MANY ARE LATINOS.
SO, ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE THE
EVANGELICAL ASPECT OPPOSE 
ABORTION, SAME SEX MARRIAGES AND
YOU WOULD HAVE THE PROIMMIGRANT 
STRAIN OF LATINOS.
YOU WOULD THINK LEANING TO THE 
LEFT.
SO, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM 
THEM IN THIS COMING ELECTION?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
WE FOCUSSED ON LATINO 
EVANGELICALS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
I CALL THEM THE MOST POWERFUL 
LATINOS IN THE WORLD.
THE PUERTO RICAN VOTERS WHO HAVE
MOVED THERE FROM HERE OR THE 
ISLAND THE MOST POWERFUL PUERTO 
RICANS IN THE WORLD BECAUSE THEY
CAN SHIFT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
DONALD TRUMP CANNOT WIN WITHOUT 
IT.
HILLARY COULD WIN WITHOUT IT BUT
NEEDS IT AS WELL.
THEY'RE COMPLEX VOTERS LIKE THE 
REST OF US.
SO, THEY'RE VERY MUCH 
ANTI-ABORTION, ANTI-SAME-SEX 
MARRIAGE AND VERY MUCH FOR TOTAL
IMMIGRATION REFORM.
PATH TO CITIZENSHIP, 
HUMANITARYIAN TREATMENT OF THEM,
THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
SO, WHERE WILL THEY GO?
THE PARTICULAR EVANGELICAL GROUP
WE FOCUSSED ON WERE VERY CLEARLY
ANTITRUMP AND THE PASTORS GAVE 
THE LASTING SPIRITUAL SPEECH AT 
THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL 
CONVENTION.
SO, WILL THEY VOTE DEMOCRATIC?
WE DON'T KNOW.
1 IN 6 LATINO VOTERS IS 
EVANGELICAL.
SO, AGAIN I THINK IT'S GOING TO 
BE THE STORY OF THE ELECTION.
WHAT HAPPENED IN CENTRAL 
FLORIDA?
>> ASIAN AMERICANS.
THE FASTEST GROWING ETHNIC GROUP
IN THE U.S.
THAT SURPRISED ME BECAUSE I 
THOUGHT IT WAS LATINOS. BUT 
THEY'RE A SMALL GROUP BEHIND IN 
TERMS OF VOTING.
BEHIND WHITES. SMALL IN TERMS OF
NUMBERS AND THEY LAG BEHIND IN 
THEIR VOTING.
SO, HOW AND WHERE ARE ASIAN 
AMERICANS INFLUENCE BEING FELT 
IN POLITICS?
>> SO, INTERESTINGLY AGAIN FOR 
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THIS IS A 
REAL MOMENT OF RECKONING.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THAT DATA, 
IT'S SHOWING THAT ASIAN AMERICAN
VOTERS ARE TURNING TOWARDS THE 
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT A FASTER 
RATE TOWARDS THE REPUBLICAN 
PARTY.
SO, ALREADY IN THIS PROGRAM 
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LATINO, 
AFRICAN AMERICAN AND ASIAN 
AMERICAN VOTERS TURNING AWAY 
FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
SO, WHAT IS THE VIABILITY OF 
THAT PARTY?
INTERESTINGLY IN SOUTHERN 
CALIFORNIA USED TO BE RONALD 
REGAN TERRITORY IN ORANGE 
COUNTY.
IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING REALLY 
DEEPLY WITH ASIAN AMERICAN WEM. 
VOTERS AND PUTTING THEM ON THE 
TICKET AND THEY'RE WINNING.
SO, THE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN 
PARTY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 
WHICH USED TO BE RONALD REGAN IS
NOW THE FACE OF ASIAN AMERICAN 
WOMEN.
BUT WILL THAT BE ABLE TO CARRY 
THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN 
PARTY NATIONALLY?
I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING
TO SEE PLAY OUT OVER THE NEXT 
EIGHT YEARS.
WILL THEY SAY WE REALLY DO NEED 
TO CHANGING THE FACE OF THE 
REPUBLICAN PARTY?
WILL IT BE LED BY MORE ASIAN 
AMERICAN WOMEN?
WE'LL SEE.
>> THIS MAKES CANDIDATES -- 
MAKES CAMPAIGNING A LOT MORE 
COMPLICATED. PEOPLE RUNNING
HAVE TO SORT OF COURT MORE 
CONSTITUENCIES THAN THEY DID IN 
THE PAST, ADDRESS DIFFERENT 
ISSUES AND IT MAKES IT HARDER TO
MAKE PREDICTIONS ABOUT WHO'S 
GOING TO WIN.
WHAT SURPRISED YOU THE MOST?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY I
WAS SURPRISED BY IT BUT -- LOOK,
I WAS BORN IN MEXICO.
WHEN WE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY MY 
FATHER WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS 
AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
HE WORKED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 
CHICAGO AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR AND 
RESEARCHER.
AND LITERALLY WE BECAME CITIZENS
IN OUR FAMILY'S HOME.
SO, FOR ME, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, 
PARTICIPATION HAS BEEN 
IMPORTANT.
I HAD TO PLEDGE MY ALLEGIANCE TO
THIS COUNTRY.
SO, WHAT WAS ENCOURAGING WAS THE
AMOUNT OF ACTIVISM THAT I SAW.
IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
MAYBE NOT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON 
THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER 
OR THE HEADLINE OR MAYBE NOT THE
HEADLINE ON TWITTER.
BUT PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED.
AND I LOVED SEEING THAT.
I LOVE SEEING THAT ENGAGEMENT 
THAT IS HAPPENING.
I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY IS 
PARTICIPATING.
BUT WHERE THEY ARE, IT'S DEEP 
AND IT'S THOUGHTFUL.
AND THAT WAS ENCOURAGING.
I THINK PERHAPS WHAT WAS 
SURPRISING TO ME WAS THAT SAME 
TIME THE KIND OF LEVEL OF 
DISENGAGEMENT.
IF WE DON'T VOTE, IT DOESN'T 
MATTER.
A KIND OF -- IN THE SENSE OF A 
WHITE VOTERS.
KIND OF LIKE WE'LL VOTE FOR 
DONALD TRUMP, EVEN THOUGH WE 
DON'T AGREE WITH ANYTHING HE 
SAYS BUT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR
HIM.
SO, A LOT OF THESE WHITE VOTERS 
SAID THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM BUT 
WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM 
ANYWAY.
YOU HAVE DEEP ENGAGEMENT AND 
THIS ALSO KIND OF PASIVETY THAT 
IS SURPRISING TO ME.
NOT SO SURPRISING BUT WORRISOME.
>> OF THE POWERSHIPS YOU HAVE 
SEEN AMONG THE NEW DECIDERS, 
WHICH DO YOU CONSIDER THE MOST 
SIGNIFICANT?
>> I HATE TO MAKE PREDICTIONS 
BUT I THINK THAT THE LATINO 
VOTERS OF FLORIDA ARE GOING TO 
BE A BIG STORY.
LATINO VOTERS IN FLORIDA 
PARTICULARLY AND I THINK THAT 
WILL BE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND I THINK EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE 
A SMALL SEGMENT, I THINK ARAB 
AMERICAN VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE 
A PART OF THE STORY AS WELL IN 
STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, OHIO, 
ILEL, MAYBE EVEN VIRGINIA.
>> BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE 
CONCENTRATED?
OF COURSE THE FACTORS THAT WOULD
NORMALLY DRAW CERTAIN GROUPS TO 
ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER HAS BEEN 
DISTORTED BY WHO THE 
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE AND 
A LOT OF VOTERS DON'T LIKE 
HILLARY CLINTON AND A LOT OF 
VOTERS DON'T LIKE DONALD TRUMP 
AND HE'S ALIENATED A LOT OF 
PEOPLE WHO MAY NORMALLY HAVE 
VOTED REPUBLICAN.
>> RIGHT.
I THINK THERE'S ALSO A 
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ROLE OF 
MEDIA, IN TERMS OF THE CANDIDACY
OF DONALD TRUMP AND WHAT 
HAPPENED WITH HIS TREATMENT BY 
THE AMERICAN MEDIA, AS WELL AS 
THE TREATMENT OF HILLARY CLINTON
AND HER CANDIDACY AND HER 
TREATMENT OF THE AMERICAN MEDIA.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE 
GENERALIZATIONS BECAUSE I THINK 
THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE AS 
JOURNALISTS NEED TO BE HAVING 
INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALY.
HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN AROUND 
FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M GOING TO
TREAT HER LIKE I TREAT EVERY 
POLITICIAN.
I'M GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HARD 
ON HER AND ASK HER DIFFICULT 
QUESTION.
BUT IF YOU COMPARE THE REPORTING
ON HER, THERE IS A MISOGYNISTIC,
IN MY VIEW IF YOU JUST LOOK 
AT -- WITHOUT EMOTION, I THINK 
WE WOULD SEE THAT TREND.. AND I 
THINK IN TERMS OF THE 
CONVERSATION WITH DONALD TRUMP.
EARLY ON A JOURNALIST LIKE ME 
COULD SAY WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS 
SAYING IS BEING CONSIDERED HATE 
SPEECH.
IN THE MEXICAN LATINO IMMIGRANT 
COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING 
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT A 
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE A 
YEAR 1/2 LATER.
SOME OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS
COME AROUND TO SAYING WAIT A 
SECOND, WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION 
ABOUT OUR ROLE IN POLITICS.
>> AS YOU POINTED OUT, A LOT OF 
AMERICANS ARE VERY PESSIMISTIC 
ABOUT THE STATE OF POLITICS IN 
THE COUNTRY TODAY.
DOES THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL 
OF THESE NEW DECIDERS WIELDING 
POLITICAL POWER MAKE YOU LESS 
PESSIMISTIC ABOUT WHERE THE 
COUNTRY IS HEADING?
>> OF COURSE IT MAKES ME LESS 
PESSIMISTIC BECAUSE THEY'RE 
ENGAGED.
I GUESS WHAT MAKES ME SAD IS THE
FACT THAT WE HAD TO HAVE AN 
ELECTION AND A CANDIDACY THAT 
BECAME SO CONTENTIOUS THAT THE 
ENGAGEMENT OF THESE NEW DECIDING
GROUPS BECAME IRREFUTABLE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE HAD TO BE 
DEEPLY INSULTED IN ORDER TO BE 
WOKEN UP AND SAY TO OURSELVES 
WE'RE AMERICANS.
WE HAVE A STAKE IN THIS.
WE HAVE TO OWN OUR POWER.
WE HAVE TO OWN OUR VOTE WHICH IS
ESSENTIALLY IN ALL THE MEDIA WE 
PRODUCE, MEDIA BY THE NUMBERS, 
ON PBS, OUR POLITICAL PODCAST 
DEDICATED TO JOURNALISTS OF 
COLOR.
WE HAVE TO DIVE IN, OWN OUR 
VOICE, OWN OUR POWER AND SO 
THESE DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS ARE 
DOING IT AND SADLY, WERE THEY 
MOTIVATED BY FEAR?
BY THREATS?
BY BEING EXCLUDED?
OR THREATS OF EXCLUSION?
YEAH.
BUT SO BE IT.
>> AT LEAST THEY'RE MOTIVATED
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
>> THAT'S AMERICAN HISTORY AND 
WE'RE A PART OF IT.
>> DO YOU PLAN TO RETURN TO THEM
AFTER THE ELECTION TO SEE WHAT 
THEY DID AND HOW THEY IMPACTED 
ON THE ELECTION?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE REPORTING THAT
ON NPR ON "LATINO U.S.A.
"THE PBS VERSION ENDED UP ON OUR
"BY THE NUMBERS."
WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE TRAVEL 
BUDGET.
WE RAISE ALL OF THE MONEY FOR 
WHAT WE DO OURSELVES.
AND I SEE THAT EVEN THAT SHERYL,
I SEE IT AS PART OF MY CIVIC 
DUTY.
SO, I DO IT WITH LOVE.
>> WE CERTAINLY LIVE IN 
INTERESTING TIMES POLITICALLY.
SO, WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL KNOW SOON.
>> THANK YOU, SHERYL.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
>> WE'RE OUT OF TIME. I WANT TO 
THANK MARIA HINOJOSA,
JOURNALIST AND PRESIDENT AND
CEO OF FUTURO MEDIA GROUP.
AM I PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT? 
>> FUTURO MEDIA GROUP.
>> FUTURO, FOR JOINING ME TODAY.
CHECK YOUR RADIO LISTINGS FOR 
"LATINO U.S.A." ON NATIONAL 
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AND GO TO THE PBS.ORG TO FIND 
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UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AND ONE 
TO ONE, I'M SHERYL McCARTHY.
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