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> THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING
CTN, AND NOW, IT IS TIME
WITH HERMAN AND SHARRON.
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>>HERMAN: I LOVE YOU,
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
LET ME JUST APOLOGIZE FOR
A MOMENT. LET ME
APOLOGIZE FOR MY GLASSES.
I GOT THESE THREE YEARS
AGO, I WORE THEM ON THE
DR. DAVE PROGRAM, ALL
RIGHT.
>>SHARRON: I LIKE THEM.
>>HERMAN: AND SOMEONE
SENT ME AN EMAIL AND THEY
SAID, I CANNOT WATCH YOU
EVER AGAIN.
>>SHARRON: WELL, AT LEAST
THEY ARE NOT WATCHING.
>>SHARRON: BUT MAYBE THEY
ARE.
>>HERMAN: AND I HAVE GOT
MY STUDIO GLASSES AND
APOLOGIZING UPFRONT, AND
I HAVE, I HAVE NOT USED
THESE, UNTIL YOU GOT
UPSET ABOUT MY GLASSES,
ON CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
AND THEY GET DARKER, AND
THEY GO TO SUNGLASSES
OUTSIDE. AND THEY ARE
MONOCHROMATIC, AND I AM
GETTING READY IN THE
DRESSING ROOM. AND I GRAB
MY GLASSES, AND I THOUGHT
MY WORD, I HAVE FORGOTTEN
MY GLASSES.
>>SHARRON: I FORGIVE YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
>>HERMAN: I KNOW I WEAR
THEM ALL THE TIME, I WEAR
THEM OUTSIDE. ALL RIGHT,
PLEASE TAKE MY APOLOGY
AND CONTINUE TO WATCH, AND
DO NOT LEAVE, AND PLEASE
DO NOT EMAIL US. WE HAVE,
WE HAVE THE SMARTEST GUY,
THE MOST INTELLIGENT GUY.
HE IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS,
HE WENT TO SCHOOL, HE
WAS ALWAYS GOOD IN SCHOOL
AND HE CONSTANTLY GOT
BETTER AND BETTER. HE HAS
WRITTEN MANY BOOKS.
>>SHARRON: HE WAS WITH US
MANY YEARS AGO.
>>HERMAN: AND WE WERE
JUST LAUGHING, WHEN HE
WAS ON THE TV WITH US, I
WAS HIS AGE NOW. NOW I AM
78 YEARS OLD, YOU CAN DO
THE MATH. ALL RIGHT, HE
IS SUCH A NEAT GUY AND WE
WERE LAUGHING. AND MOST
PEOPLE WHO ARE THAT
INTELLIGENT, THEY HAVE NO
SENSE OF HUMOR. HE HAS A
GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR THIS
WOULD BE HIS LATEST BOOK
AND YOU WILL LOVE, YOU
WILL LOVE THIS BOOK AND I
AM TELLING YOU, READING
THE BOOK, AND TAKE MY WORD
FOR THIS, YOU WILL LOVE
IT, GO TO THE WEBSITE, GET
YOUR COPY, YOU WILL BE
BLESSED. BECAUSE YOU DID
IT.
>>SHARRON: AND THE NAME
IS THOMAS.
>>HERMAN: AND I WANTED TO
KEEP THAT BACK.
>>SHARRON: ALL RIGHT
OKAY. ALL RIGHT NOW.
>>HERMAN: AND YESTERDAY,
OF ALL THINGS, A
PROFESSOR AT LIBERTY
UNIVERSITY IN LYNCHBURG,
AND WE WERE TALKING, AND
I SAID, ZIONISM, AND
RIGHT OFF OF THE BAT, AND
THE PROFESSOR SAID, HE
KNEW MY GUEST. AND HE
SAID,AND I DID NOT ASK HIM
BUT THIS IS WHAT HE WAS
SAYING, IT WAS IMPROMPTU.
THIS IS THE BEST BOOK HE
HAS EVER WRITTEN.
>>SHARRON: AND WE ARE
JUST TELLING YOU THAT
RIGHT NOW.
>>HERMAN: THESE WERE HIS
WORDS AND I WANTED TO
QUOTE HIM, AND HE SAID
THAT WOULD BE FINE. ALL
OF A SUDDEN, DR. ICE, HE
BRINGS THIS, AND YOU DID
THIS TOGETHER. AND I
MEAN, THIS IS JUST
AMAZING. SO YOU TWO GUYS,
YOU LIKE ONE ANOTHER?
>>GUEST: AND WE WERE ON
THE FACULTY TOGETHER, I
WAS THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS.
IT IS GREAT TO SEE, AND
FOR THE SATANIC GLASSES
YOU ARE WEARING. AND BY
THE WAY, I FLUNKED COLLEGE
MY FIRST YEAR.
>>SHARRON: REALLY?
>>HERMAN: AND WHERE WAS
THAT?
>>GUEST: OH, YES, IT WAS
SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE.
>>HERMAN: COME ON. AND
WHAT DID YOU DO GET DRUNK?
>>GUEST: AND I DID NOT
STAY IN THE CHAIR LONG
ENOUGH TO LEARN ANYTHING.
AND THEN I WENT WITH THE
LORD AND I BEGAN TO DO
BETTER.
>>HERMAN: AND HOW MANY
DEGREES DO YOU HAVE ABOUT?
>>GUEST: YOU KNOW, I
HAVE GOT A BACHELORS, THE
MASTERS AND DOCTORATE.
>>SHARRON: WELL, THAT IS
ALL.
>>GUEST: AND THIS IS WHY
THEY SAY PHD'S TERMINAL.
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, DID
YOU LIKE SCHOOL? AND WHEN
YOU WERE GEARED UP?
> AND WELL WHEN I GOT
INTERESTED IN WITH THE
LORD CALLED ME TO MY
MINISTRY, I WAS SO
INTERESTED IN ALL THESE
THINGS.
>>SHARRON: WERE YOU SAVED
IN COLLEGE? AND YOU
FLUNKED?
>>GUEST: I WAS SAVED WHEN
I WAS ABOUT NINE YEARS
OLD.
>>SHARRON: THE SAME WITH
ME, YEAH.
>>HERMAN: THIS BOOK, AND
THIS HAS BEEN GIVEN A
GREAT ENDORSEMENT BY THE
PROFESSOR, AND I KNEW
THIS WAS A GREAT BOOK WHEN
I READ IT. AND SOME BOOKS
HE READ, YOU THINK YOU
HAVE READ IT BEFORE WITH
ANOTHER NAME, IT IS THE
SAME THING. BUT THIS IS
REALLY VERY UNIQUE. AND
WHAT CREATED IT? ALL
RIGHT, AND WHAT MADE THIS?
AND I WANT TO GET A SHOT
OF THIS. AND YES AND MINE
IS GOOD.
>>GUEST: AND I LIKE YOURS
BETTER.
>>HERMAN: AND CAN YOU SEE
IT? LOOK AT THAT.
>>SHARRON: AND I AM THE
ONLY ONE THAT CANNOT SEE
IT.
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, AND
WE WILL PASS THESE OUT.
AND SO YOU HAVE ONE, TOO.
ALL RIGHT AT WHAT WOULD BE
INTERESTING, ZIONISM. AND
SOMEONE SENT ME A TEXT
MESSAGE AND THEY WERE
SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE
SON-IN-LAW OF DONALD
TRUMP, HE IS A ZIONIST AND
I SENT THEM A MESSAGE
BACK, AND THIS WAS LIKE A
PUT DOWN, AND THEN I
SAID, SO I MY. AND I
WANTED TO SEE THEIR
REACTION. AND I DID NOT
HEAR ANY MORE OUT OF THEM
BUT PLEASE EXPLAIN
ZIONISM.
>>GUEST: WELL, THE WORD
ZIONISM, IT IS USED 160
TIMES IN THE BIBLE. IT IS
A TERM THAT HAS A
POSITIVE CONNOTATION,
FORWARD-LOOKING. IT
RELATES TO THE FUTURE
WHEN ISRAEL IS BACK IN
THE LAND AND IN A RIGHT
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND
FOR THE JEWS, IN 1897,
THEY CHOSE THIS TERM,
WHEN THIS BEGAN. AND THEY
BEGAN TO DEVELOP A
STRATEGY FOR ESTABLISHING
THE MODERN NATION OF
ISRAEL. CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
GOES BACK TO THE 1500S,
IT WAS CALLED RESTORATION
AND SO WHEN THAT WAS
FOUNDED COME IN ISRAEL,
THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE
CHRISTIAN ZIONIST. I HAVE
A WHOLE CHAPTER, IT IS
18,000 WORDS, EXPLAINING
THE HISTORY OF IT ALL.
AND THERE WAS A MAN,
FRANCIS KETT, AND HE WAS
IN ENGLAND, AND HE
WROTE A BOOK THAT
CONTAINED A FEW PAGES
ABOUT THE FUTURE
RESTORATION OF ISRAEL, HE
WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE
IN 1589. ENGLAND, IN
1290, THEY KICKED OUT THE
JEWS. THEY WERE THE
FIRST ONES TO DO THAT.
THAT WAS ENGLAND. IT WAS
UNDER, WHEN THE BLOOD
LIBEL BEGAN. IT WAS UNDER
CROMWELL IN 1655, THEY
BROUGHT THE JEWS BACK.
JOHN CALVIN HE WAS A GREAT
THEOLOGIAN, AND HE SAID,
ENGLAND, IS PREVENTING
THE SECOND COMING. THE
BIBLE SAYS THAT ALL THE
JEWS, THEY WOULD GO TO
EVERY COUNTRY ON THE
PLANET, AND THEN THE
LORD WOULD RETURN.
AND THERE WOULD BE NO
JEWS IN ENGLAND, THAT
PREVENTED THE LORD COMING
BACK. AND SO THEY PASSED A
BILL, TO BRING THE JEWS
FROM AMSTERDAM TO ENGLAND.
IT WOULD BE SUCH AN
INTERESTING THING.
AND BECAUSE OF THE
REFORMATION AND THE
READING OF THE BIBLE, IT
WAS PRECEDED BY HUNDREDS
OF YEARS. I HAVE A VIDEO
CLIP. I DO NOT HAVE IT IN
THE BOOK, OF BENJAMIN
NETANYAHU SAYING, WHAT I
AM SAYING ABOUT CHRISTIAN
ZIONISM. IT PRECEDES THE
JEWS BY HUNDREDS OF
YEARS. AND HE SAYS
WITHOUT THE CHRISTIANS,
WE WOULD NOT HAVE A
MODERN ISRAEL. AND SO IT
IS INTERESTING, THAT GOD
HAS USED MANY CHRISTIANS,
IN HIS EFFORT TO BRING
ISRAEL BACK IN THE LAND.
>>SHARRON: IS THIS IS WHY
PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE
WORD ZIONISM? THEY DO NOT
WANT ISRAEL?
>>GUEST: I WILL NEVER
FORGET A FEW YEARS AGO,
ON THANKSGIVING, WE HAD
SOME STUDENTS IN MY HOME
FROM COLLEGE. AND WE
DIVIDED THEM UP, AND I
TOOK THE MUSLIMS. I TOOK
ONE FROM SAUDI ARABIA,
AND ONE THAT WAS A
SO-CALLED PALESTINIAN,
BUT A MUSLIM. AND WE HAD
THE MAGAZINE ON MY COFFEE
TABLE. AND THE YOUNG MAN
SAID SAUDI ARABIA SAID TO
YOU LIKE ISRAEL? AND HE
SAID, I LIKE ISRAEL BUT
NOT THE ZIONISM. AND THEY
SAY IT IS A GLOBAL
CONSPIRACY OF THE JEWS TO
TAKE OVER THE WORLD, AND
THE BANKING SYSTEM. MANY
PEOPLE IN AMERICA THEY
BELIEVE IT.
>>HERMAN: AND THE MAN
THAT SAID ME THAT MESSAGE,
HE BELIEVED IT. I AM A
ZIONIST.
>>SHARRON: THIS IS WHAT
THEY THINK WHEN THEY HEAR
IT?
>>GUEST: IT WOULD BE LIKE
BEING A BLACK PANTHER, OR
SDS. AND MAYBE THE
AUDIENCE IS OLDER. THE
YOUNGER ONES DO NOT KNOW
IT.
>>HERMAN: IN OUR AUDIENCE
WOULD BE 18 YEARS OLD AND
UP. THOSE WOULD BE OUR
DEMOGRAPHICS. ALL RIGHT.
IN THE CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
AND IS THIS UNDER AN
ATTACK? AND YOU TALK
ABOUT THIS IN THE BOOK.
>>GUEST: IT IS ALWAYS
UNDER THE ATTACK, WHEN
YOU GO BACK TO THE EARLY
CHURCH AND BY THE 300S
AND ISOLATE TO WAS IN THE
CHURCH. AND THEY WERE
THINKING, THEY SAY THE
JEWS DID NOT WANT CHRIST
SO WE WILL KILL THEM.
LIKE THERE IS A MAN,HE
WAS A GOLDEN THROAT
ORATORY, IN THE 300S. AND
HE PREACHED EIGHT SERMONS,
CALLED AGAINST THE JEWS.
HE CONCLUDED IN THE
SERMON, IT WAS LIKE THIS.
IF HATING THE JEWS IS
MAKING A GOOD CHRISTIAN WE
ARE ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS.
MARTIN LUTHER THOUGHT, HE
THOUGHT THE JEWS WOULD
RECEIVE THE NEW GOSPEL,
JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH.
AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL
FOR THAT PROCLAMATION.
HOWEVER HE BECAME SO UPSET
IN HIS LIFE, WHEN THE
JEWS DID NOT RECEIVE IT.
HE BELIEVED THAT WE WERE
ON THE VERGE OF THE SECOND
COMING. HE SAID 1564,
AND THIS HAPPENED AFTER HE
DIED, THAT WAS THE DATE.
>>SHARRON: SO THEY WERE
SETTING THE DATES BACK
THEN?
>>GUEST: THAT WOULD BE
ANOTHER STORY, AND HE
WROTE, AGAINST THE JEWS.
AND YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. YOU
CAN READ IT, IT IS
TERRIBLE. AND HITLER
QUOTES IT THREE TIMES IN
MEIN KAMPF. AND HE USES
IT AND YOU KNOW THE
CHURCHGOERS IN GERMANY,
AND THEY GOT INTO THE NAZI
PARTY.
>>HERMAN: SO OBVIOUSLY,
AND THEY WOULD HATE THE
JEWS AND THIS WAS SET UP
FOR HITLER? AND WOULD
THAT BE IT? AND GOING
BEFORE HE CAME UP WITH THE
EXTERMINATION OF THE
JEWS?
>>GUEST: I WAS READING A
SOURCE THAT SAID PROBABLY,
FROM THE EARLY CHURCH
UNTIL, UNTIL THE 1900S
MAYBE 5 MILLION JEWS WERE
KILLED IN CHRISTENDOM.
AND THE CHRISTIAN
COUNTRIES, THEY DID THIS.
THE CHURCH, THEY HAD THE
HISTORY, AND ALSO ROMAN
CATHOLICISM, EASTERN
ORTHODOX, AND TO SOME
EXTENT AND PROTESTANTISM.
AND THEY BROUGHT IN THE
VIEW OF REPLACEMENT
THEOLOGY. AND WE WERE
LIVING IN THE MILLENNIUM.
THE CHURCH REPLACED THE
COUNTRY OF ISRAEL. AND I
WAS THINKING OF THAT IS
TRUE I WOULD BE IN THE
GHETTO. AND SO THERE IS
NO MILLENNIUM GHETTO.
BUT THIS WAS WHEN, AND
WHEN CALVIN AND MARTIN
LUTHER THAT HAD TO
EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANT TO
BE A NON-CATHOLIC. THEY
DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH BUT
THEY SET THE STAGE AND
THEY RESTORED THE
INTERPRETATION OF THE
BIBLE'S TRANSLATION, AND
THEY WANTED THE PEOPLE TO
READ THE BIBLE. AND THEY
ALSO LEARN HEBREW AND
GREEK, AND THEY BROUGHT
THAT BACK IN THE ORIGINAL
LANGUAGE. AND WHEN THERE
WAS A SECOND GENERATION
THAT BEGAN TO READ THE
BIBLE AND I SAID HEY,
ISRAEL IS ON EVERY PAGE,
LITERALLY IN THE BIBLE.
THEY HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT
AGAIN IN ISRAEL. AND THIS
IS WHEN THEY BEGAN, AND
THE PURITANS. AND MOST OF
THEM WERE THE
PRE-MILLENNIALS, AND THEY
WERE IN THE 1600S, AND
THEN IN THE 1700S, THEY
HAD THE ENLIGHTENMENT.
>>HERMAN: AND SOME DO NOT
EVEN AGREE WITH THAT.
>>GUEST: AND IN OUR
COUNTRY, WE WERE FOUNDED
BY PEOPLE THAT LOVE
ISRAEL, THIS IS WHY WE
ARE LIKE WE ARE. AND AS
OUR INFLUENCE FAITH NOW AS
CHRISTIANITY AND ALSO NOW
WITH THE MILLENNIALS, AND
THEY ARE NOT PRO ISRAEL.
YOU KNOW, THEY DID NOT GET
THIS FROM THE CATHOLICS,
THEY GOT THIS FROM THE
PURITANS. THEY WERE PRO
ISRAEL. THEY LOVE THE
HEBREW, WHEN THEY FIRST
ARRIVED IN AMERICA. THE
FIRST UNIVERSITY, THEY
DID NOT TEACH GREEK BUT
HEBREW, AND THEIR
ORIGINAL LOGO, IT WAS
HEBREW. AND UNTIL AFTER
THEIR THE CIVIL WAR, YOU
HAD TO DELIVER YOUR
VALEDICTORIAN SPEECH IN
HEBREW. AND THAT WAS
RIGHT UP UNTIL THE CIVIL
WAR, THAT WAS IN AMERICA.
>>HERMAN: THAT WOULD BE
HISTORIC.
>>GUEST: YES, IT IS AN
AMAZING THING AND THE HAD
SUCH EMPHASIS, AND THERE
WAS A CAMBRIDGE GRADUATE,
AND HE CAME TO AMERICA,
HE HAD A SON, AND HE
WROTE ABOUT 125 BOOKS.
AND HE WAS THE
SECOND PRESIDENT OF
HARVARD. I HOPE I SAID
THAT PROPERLY. HIS FIRST
BOOK, THEY WENT THROUGH
EIGHT ADDITIONS OF IT,
THE RESTORATION OF ISRAEL.
AND THEN HE HAD A SON,
WHO WAS NAMED COTTON. AND
HE WROTE 425 BOOKS. HE
WAS A SLACKER. THESE
PEOPLE WERE VERY STRONG
PREMILLENNIALIST. AND YOU
KNOW, LIKE JOHN ADAMS, HE
WAS A VERY STRONG
CHRISTIAN ZIONIST, HE WAS
A RESTORATION US. ALSO
ABRAHAM LINCOLN. AND YOU
KNOW, AND THEY WOULD DEAL
WITH THESE THINGS.
>>HERMAN: AND IN THE
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES,
AND THE PLACES, OF HIGHER
LEARNING, AND NONE OF THAT
IS AVAILABLE.
>>GUEST: ARE RIGHT, IT IS
JUST THE OPPOSITE. AND
MY YOUNGEST GRADUATED
FROM JOHN MACARTHUR
SCHOOL, HE BEGAN A CHURCH
IN ST. PAUL, AND BEFORE
THAT, HE WAS WORKING AT
THE CHURCH IN BERKELEY
CALIFORNIA, HE HAD SOME
AMAZING STORIES TO TELL
ABOUT WORKING WITH THE
COLLEGE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS AT BERKELEY.
YOU TALK ABOUT FREE
SPEECH. BUT MORE
SIGNIFICANTLY, THEY DO
NOT KNOW THE BIBLE. THE
YOUNGER PEOPLE. FOR
EXAMPLE I WAS LISTENING, I
HEARD A SONG BY, AND WHAT
WOULD BE THE NAME? IN THE
1970S, THAT WAS ABOUT
JERUSALEM. I CANNOT THINK
OF THE NAME.
>>HERMAN: LIKE THE SONG,
EL SHADDAI?
>>GUEST: AND THIS WAS
LIKE THE 1960S, IT WAS
NOT JONI MITCHELL, BUT
MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE? LIKE
A FOLK SINGER?
>>HERMAN: I AM NOT REALLY
BIG ON THAT.
>>GUEST: THEY WERE SINGING
A SONG, AND SHE WAS A
LEFTIST. SHE GREW UP, IN
AN AMERICAN CULTURE WERE
CHRISTIANITY IT STILL HAD
SOME INFLUENCE. AND SHE
USE SOME BIBLICAL
TERMINOLOGY, AND SHE
SPOKE ABOUT THE PROTESTS
AGAINST THE VIETNAM WAR.
>>HERMAN: YOU MEAN JOAN--
JOAN BAEZ?
>>GUEST: YES, YOU WOULD
BE SO GOOD, YOU ARE GOOD
FOR AN OLD GUY.
>>HERMAN: AND ONCE IN A
WHILE, I CAN REMEMBER MY
NAME.
>>GUEST: AND I HAVE GOT
THAT DISEASE MYSELF.
>>HERMAN: LAUGHTER.
>>SHARRON: I LIKE YOU.
>>GUEST: YOU KNOW, AND
THE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY,
AND THEY MIGHT BE SIMILAR
IN THEIR LIBERALISM AND
THE ANTI-AMERICANISM,
HOWEVER THEY DID NOT GROW
UP IN A STRONG CHRISTIAN
COUNTRY. AND THEY HAD THE
CONNOTATION OF SOME
CHRISTIANITY. AND SO, AND
THINGS GET WORSE EVERY
GENERATION BUT AMERICA HAS
BEEN DIFFERENT, AND THEY
BELIEVE THAT ISRAEL HAD A
FUTURE.
>>SHARRON: THEY WILL SAY
BUT WELL, IT WAS THE JEWS
THAT KILLED CHRIST, AND
THEY USE THAT. AND WAS
THERE A HATRED OF THE JEWS
BEFORE THE CRUCIFIXION OF
CHRIST? AND WAS IT
TOTALLY AFTER HIS
CRUCIFIXION?
>>GUEST: AND WELL, THAT
WOULD BE GOING BACK INTO
EGYPT, AND WERE THE
EGYPTIANS, AND THEY COULD
NOT INTERACT WITH THEM IT
GOES BACK INTO THE BOOK OF
ESTHER, AND THEY WOULD
KILL THE JEWS AND GOD
DELIVERED THEM.
>>SHARRON: AND SO NOW
THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN
EXCUSE.
>>GUEST: AND THEN NEW
TESTAMENT WAS IN ISRAEL
ITSELF, AND THE JEWS DID
REJECT IT. AND THIS IS
WHY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGIANS,
I AM THINKING OF A
PARTICULAR MAN, HE HAS
WELL-KNOWN, AND HE WROTE A
BOOK AGAINST ISRAEL AND HE
JUST QUOTES THE PASSAGES
WHERE GOD CONDEMNS THEM.
LIKE COMPARING THEM TO THE
HARLOT. BUT HE DOES NOT
GIVE THE FULL STORY,
ABOUT HOW SHE WOULD BE
BROUGHT BACK, AND HE
WOULD TAKE HER BACK, AS
THE BRIDE. YOU REALIZE
FROM GENESIS ALONE. THE
PROMISE OF THE ABRAHAMIC
COVENANT IS REPEATED 20
TIMES, TO THE
DESCENDENTS, AND IT IS
ALSO IN DEUTERONOMY. AND
SO MANY TIMES IN THE
PSALMS, AND YOU KNOW, 16 OF
THE 17 PROPHETS OF GOD, ONLY
JONAH DOES NOT TALK ABOUT
ISRAEL. AND THEN YOU CAN
TALK ABOUT THE NEW
TESTAMENT, CHRIST DOES NOT
DENY IT, IT WOULD BE
SUPPORTED BY ROMANS 11.
IT WOULD BE SUPPORTED THE
BOOK OF REVELATION, WHERE
YOU SEE ISRAEL, AND THIS
RELATES TO WHAT HAPPENS IN
ISRAEL.
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, YOU
TALK ABOUT THIS IN CHAPTER
4. THE LAND, PALESTINE,
ISRAEL, AND THE
PALESTINIAN, AND THEY SAY
GET OFF OF MY LAND AND
THEY WILL SAY GET OFF OF
OUR LAND, AND GIVE ME YOUR
OPINION.
>>GUEST: WELL OBVIOUSLY,
AND WHAT GOD THINKS IS ALL
THAT MATTERS, IN THIS IS
WHY THERE IS SUCH
OPPOSITION AND GOD HAS
SAYS THAT ISRAEL BELONGS
TO THE JEWS. AND YES,
THEY HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT,
THEY WERE UNDER GOD'S
DISCIPLINE EVENT AT WHEN
YOU SEE DANIEL, AND THEY
ARE SENT INTO DISPERSION.
AND THEN THEY WERE
THINKING, AND THE BOOK OF
DANIEL WAS SHOWING THAT
GOD HUMBLED
NEBUCHADNEZZAR, AND HE
SENDS OUT A PROCLAMATION
SAYING, THE GOD OF ISRAEL
IS THE MOST HIGH GOD,
YAHWEH. AND SO, AND EVEN
IN DISCIPLINE THE BIBLE
INDICATES THAT GOD IS
SOVEREIGN. HE IS IN
CONTROL. THE REASON THERE
IS OPPOSITION, IT IS
BECAUSE GOD SAYS, THIS IS
THEIR LAND, AND
THEREFORE, SATAN IS
STIRRING UP HIS CROWD TO
OPPOSE GOD. AND THIS IS
THE ONLY PLACE ON THE
PLANET THAT GOD SAID IT
BELONGS TO HIM. AND THIS
IS WHY THERE IS SUCH
OPPOSITION, AND WHAT YOU
HAVE IS THE FACT THAT
ISRAEL HAS COME BACK IN
THE LAND, AND THAT HAS
MADE A REVIVAL AMONG
ISLAM. AND THIS IS WHAT
THE MODERN REVIVAL WOULD
BE BASED UPON WOULD BE
THERE OPPOSITION TO
ISRAEL. NOW. DEUTERONOMY
SAYS WHEN THE JEWS WOULD
BE OUT OF THE LAND. THE
LAND WOULD BE DESOLATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE
HISTORY LIKE MARK TWAIN,
HIS ACCOUNT, AND HE WENT
FOR THREE DAYS SEEING THE
PEOPLE, IT WAS DESOLATE.
AND YOU WOULD SEE THE
ARABS, AND THEY WOULD
MOVE IN, AND THEY WOULD
PASS AWAY OF MALARIA. THE
LAND WAS FULL OF SWAMPS,
THE WATER WAS
FREE-FLOWING. AND EVEN
THAT FIRST GENERATION.
AND THAT WAS 1882, AND
THEY WOULD BACK INTO
ISRAEL. AND ABOUT ONE
THIRD OF THAT
FIRST-GENERATION DIED OF
MALARIA BEFORE THEY COULD
EVEN CLEAR OUT THE SWAMPS.
IT WAS UNINHABITABLE.
OVER 100 YEARS AGO THEY
STARTED THE ISRAEL FUND TO
PURCHASE LAND, AND THEY
WOULD MAYBE PAY 10 TIMES
MORE FOR THE LARGE
PARCELS OF LAND, WHERE
THE LANDLORDS WOULD BE
ABSENTEE IN DAMASCUS, AND
IN CAIRO. AND THEY WOULD
SELL THEM THE LAND, AND
THEY PURCHASED ALL OF THE
LAND. THEY DID NOT
REALLY TAKE OVER ANYBODY'S
LAND BUT THIS IS WHAT
THEY SAY, AND THIS IS
WHAT THEY SAY IN THE ARAB
NATIONS, BUT THEY
PURCHASED IT. AND EVEN IN
THE RETURN.
>>HERMAN: HE MENTIONS,
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY, WE
ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I HAVE LEFT HIM, ALONE
AND I LIKE IT AND I FEEL
LIKE I AM IN HIS
CLASSROOM, AND HE TALKS
ABOUT REPLACEMENT
THEOLOGY. AND QUICKLY,
AND WHAT WOULD BE THAT
DEFINITION?
>>GUEST: IT WOULD BE THAT
ISRAEL HAS BEEN SET ASIDE
PERMANENTLY NOW, AND THE
CHURCH HAS REPLACED
ISRAEL. WE BELIEVE THE
CHURCH IS MADE UP OF THE
JEWS AND THE GENTILES IN
CHRIST. AND THIS IS WHY
WE SEE IT, THEY SAY THEY
WANT GOD TO FULFILL HIS
PROMISE TO ISRAEL, FOR
THEM TO BE THE HEAD OF THE
NATIONS, AND THEN YOU
HAVE THE 70 WEEKS OF
DANIEL AND THAT WILL BRING
ON THE 144,000 EVANGELIST
EVANGELIZING THE WORLD AND
THEN THEY WOULD BE A LIGHT
TO THE NATIONS THEN. AND
THEN, YOU WILL SEE THE
NATION BEING CONVERTED,
AND THE TRIBULATION WOULD
BE A TIME WHERE THEY ARE
PURGED. AND BY THE TIME
OF THE SECOND COMING ALL
OF THE JEWS THAT ARE ALIVE
THEY WILL BE A BELIEVER
AND THEY SHALL CALL UPON
THE LORD FOR BEING
RESCUED. AND THE BIBLE
SAYS THEY WILL CALL UPON
THE ONE THEY HAVE NOT
BELIEVED AND THEY SHALL
BELIEVE, THE BIBLE SAYS
AND THEY SHALL CALL UPON
HIM, AND THAT WOULD BE A
RESCUED EVENT WHEN HE
COMES BACK.
>>HERMAN: AND WE DID NOT
GET TO REVELATION 12, AND
THE FUTURE OF ISRAEL.
>>GUEST: AND THAT WOULD
BE A CHAPTER ON
REVELATION, AND HOW THE
CHEERS WILL RUN AWAY. IT
WOULD BE THE WORKING OF
GENESIS, AND IT IS ALL
OF THIS AND I CAN EXPLAIN
IT, AND HOW THIS WORKS
OUT IN THE CHAPTER.
>>HERMAN: THE WOMAN AND
THE DRAGON?
>>GUEST: AND THAT WOULD BE
ISRAEL AND NOT OF THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND THE
DRAGON WOULD BE SATAN, IT
TELLS YOU. IT SAYS, AND
IT SAYS IN 12, AND IN 19,
SATAN, THE SERPENT, HE IS
THE DRAGON.
>>HERMAN: WOW. AND CAN
YOU SATURDAY?
>>GUEST: NO, THERE IS NO
WAY TO DATE THE RAPTURE,
AND I COULD GIVE YOU A
DATE BUT THAT WOULD NOT
WORK.
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT NOT
GOOD FOR YOU. I TELL YOU
AND WE ARE JUST SCRATCHING
THE SURFACE.
>>SHARRON: PEOPLE NEED TO
KNOW THESE THINGS.
>>HERMAN: AND THIS IS
HIS BEST BOOK AND I
BELIEVE IT, AND REMEMBER,
GO BACK TO THE WORD OF
GOD. AND THIS IS WHAT HE
HAS USED TO WRITE THE
SCRIPTURES.
>>GUEST: AND YES, AND
ISRAEL HAS ALL OF THE
RIGHT TO THE LAND.
>>HERMAN: I AGREE WITH
YOU. THIS IS, AND THIS
IS WHY I WEAR MY LAPEL
PIN. AND I WANT YOU TO
READ TWO CHAPTERS OF THE
BIBLE EVERY DAY. AND I
HAVE DONE THIS NOW FOR 30
YEARS, AND LET ME TELL
YOU, IT WOULD BE A
BRAND-NEW BOOK. AND I
MEAN, IT IS THE MOST
INSPIRED READING THAT YOU
CAN EVER PICK UP AND READ
AT LEAST TWO CHAPTERS TODAY
AND WILL YOU DO THAT FOR
ME? @REMEMBER JESUS CHRIST
IS THE ANSWER TO EVERY
NEED THAT YOU HAVE AN, GOD
BLESS YOU AND GOODBYE.
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