Hey everyone, it's Dr. Z.
It's time for another 
debunking of a BS,
YouTube expose on the pandemic.
Before we did Plandemic,
which was pretty obvious
within 30 seconds of 
watching that video,
I detected crazy sauce all 
over it,
and I was just angry that
anyone would have believed it.
The video I'm gonna review 
today is called
Perspectives on the Pandemic,
the Undercover Epicenter Nurse,
and about a billion people
have sent it to me as usual,
just came out already
has about 100,000 views
despite being over an hour long.
And, this one's tricky
because you start watching it,
and you, it takes a while
 to figure out
that this person is insane.
But it does take time
and you can use
your critical thinking toolkit
to actually debunk this 
systematically.
So that's what I wanna do 
with you guys,
because I'll tell you
going into this video,
I actually kind of have a
bias that sides with the nurse
who is purporting to
expose our mismanagement
and murder of patients with
COVID at an epicenter hospital,
Elmhurst in New York in Queens.
And, the reason is, is
that a lot of the things
she talks about are things
that, you know, I've seen.
So, mismanagement, over-treatment,
financial incentives
that don't align with the
actual care of the patient,
not listening to patients
wishes, those kinds of things.
So, I'm already like on her side,
like, I want to believe
 what she's saying.
And despite that, I don't
believe a single word
that she says, even though 
there's truth
sprinkled through the video
in terms of conceptual truth.
So, let's go through it carefully.
In this video, so that
you don't have to watch
the hour and 10 minutes
slog that I watched at 2X
watching her cry crocodile
tears at 2X was entertaining,
but really gets boring fast.
She basically is a nurse
 who's traveling.
She decides to go to New York
and we'll talk about her
background in a second,
because that's important,
decides to go to New York to
help out at Elmhurst hospital,
which is the epicenter 
of the epicenter
according to the documentary.
Now, she immediately sees
that there's a ton of patients
and starts to make a 
series of claims,
decides she's gonna become
an undercover reporter
and videotape, not just
medical record charts,
which are shown in the video
with minimal redaction,
but audio tape, her
colleagues, other physicians,
other nurses without their
knowledge or consent.
And, they put it in this video.
So, this is the structure
that she's doing.
Now, her claims in the video,
which we're gonna go 
through some of them,
are that they weren't even
testing properly for COVID.
They were calling people with
negative tests, positive,
presumably because 
they get paid more
for positive COVID tests
by Medicare and Medicaid.
This was a poor, racial
minority population
that was being 
specifically targeted
by this hospital 
because of money.
The doctors were incompetent,
the residents were incompetent.
They were forcing patients
to be, do not resuscitate
when they could have saved them
or they could have coded them.
And they didn't talk to the 
families.
And, they were intubating
and ventilating patients
that didn't need to be
intubated and ventilated,
among other claims.
Also, they weren't giving
life saving treatments
like hydroxychloroquine,
and zinc and vitamin C,
because you know, Cuomo,
that was literally
that was literally the claim.
Alright, so let's go 
through this.
The first thing to do
is to look at your
 conspiracy checklist.
Number one, is there a 
conspiracy theory
that they're presenting?
The answer is yes.
They're saying that we
are killing COVID patients
and non-COVID patients,
putting them together,
calling them COVID, potentially
getting them infected
because we get paid
$29,000 per COVID patient
if they're diagnosed 
with COVID, alright.
Yes, and financial 
incentives do matter.
Yes, that can influence care.
Is that what's going on here?
Well, we have no contrary
voice in the video,
which is already a red flag.
So already you go, well,
wait, nobody else who's saying
that that's not happening 
from Elmhurst
or anywhere else is given 
a voice.
And we in healthcare know
that this is probably
not occurring you guys,
because it would come out.
There would be a ton of staff
who would openly revolt,
not one person.
Now, remember with conspiracy 
theories,
you have to look at who's 
talking,
who's proposing the conspiracy.
And as quick Google search of
this nurse is not sufficient.
You have to dig a little
deeper into the Google.
Guess what?
Erin Marie, the nurse in
question is an anti-vaxxer,
not just an anti-vaxxer.
She is queen of the anti-vaxxers.
She started an organization
called the Florida
something Alliance, I forget
what exactly what it's called.
That is an anti-vaccine
pro personal choice site.
So, already she has this agenda.
She's been noted by a community
scientific community before
as being a vocal anti-vaxxer,
which already oughta disqualify
you from being a nurse.
But in this case, and in
this country, it doesn't
because there's this 
thing called freedom.
I don't know why.
And as a result, you're
already going, wait, what?
Then you look at our previous
posts about the pandemic.
She denied it existed.
She's in Florida.
And even in the video, she
says, "we went to the beach.
"The cure for this is go 
to the beach,
"salt water, sunlight,
that's what we need."
Sound familiar?
The crazy woman from
Plandemic said the same thing.
So already, you know, 
she has an agenda.
She decides she's gonna get
attention, goes to New York
and volunteers at Elmhurst
as a traveling nurse,
however, she structured it.
Coming with a camera,
coming with an agenda
to make some noise about this,
about the pandemic that
she denied was existing
just a couple of weeks prior.
And you can follow some
of this on Twitter.
So, that's the background 
of the person.
Now, the second thing on your
conspiracy checklist is to go,
do they trot out a bunch of 
fake experts?
How can you tell a fake expert?
Because the real experts
can be contrasted with them.
So, who do they trot out 
in this video?
They trot out an urgent 
care doctor
who runs urgent care company,
talking about
hydroxychloroquine, and zinc.
That's not an expert on
hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
That's a random doc in the box.
Just like those two 
Bakersfield clowns
that were talking about all 
this stuff,
pulling stuff out of 
their butts,
that has nothing to do with 
science.
That's fake experts.
You can get real experts
who actually disagree
and they should disagree on 
COVID-19
because we don't actually
have all the answers.
That's called a healthy debate.
And there's a thing called 
red teaming,
where you actually set up 
an opposing view
to challenge your own views
so that you can make
sure you're not wrong.
This is not that,
this is a one-sided
conspiracy with fake experts.
So, that's another thing 
on the checklist.
Next thing,
cherry picking data and studies
to support your viewpoint
while discounting
evidence to the contrary.
Well, in this one, she starts
in her pre-recorded stuff.
She starts railing against
these doctors, saying,
"why aren't we giving them zinc?
"Why aren't we giving
them hydroxychloroquine?
"These things are shown to work."
And the doctor says,
"actually the evidence is 
kind of mixed"
and actually 
he's very patient with her
and explains that some of
these things can cause harm.
"Well, what if they're
all gonna die anyways?"
And he says, "well, they're not.
"The 10% that would
live, might actually die
"if you give them something
that's gonna hurt them."
And that's completely discounted.
Instead she cherry picks these
very poor quality studies
and just throws them out there.
And it's clear that she 
doesn't know
what she's talking about
because she herself
is a fake expert because
she, first of all,
she does not have the 
expertise required
to talk about these trials.
And it's clear from what
you hear her talking about.
The next thing that happens
is there's cherry 
picking of stuff.
So, she says, there's
dentists running the ICU
because they're so under-staffed
and it's just a mess and 
this and that.
And then, she starts attacking
one doctor on the recording
saying, you know, you're 
terrible
and this and that 
and this and that.
And the doctor is
 very patient with her
and basically says noted.
And the interviewer says, "what?
"So, was this the dentist
that you were yelling at?"
And she goes, 
"no, it was a CCU fellow."
The CCU fellow by definition,
has many more hours 
of experience
managing high level ICU
patients than you do.
So, suddenly there's a 
false equivalence
between a traveling nurse who's 
come here
with an agenda and a CCU fellow.
Now, could the fellow be wrong?
Sure.
Did the fellow attack her
and jump all over her?
No, she was quite respectful
of somebody who was attacking her.
So, already you're 
starting to discredit
the main element of this video,
which is this incredibly
 unprofessional
and criminally negligent
nurse who's anti-vax.
So put all this together.
She's secretly recording 
patient data,
secretly recording her colleagues
with her personal agenda,
who knows what it is.
Making huge logical fallacies,
which is another checklist
on your conspiracy,
you know, how to 
debunk this stuff.
So, her logical fallacies
are all over the place.
Listen to this one.
"They're intubating patients.
"When we know that when you
intubate patients, they die."
Now, this is true to the extent
that there are these cases
of happy hypoxemia, which
we've talked about on our show
with Scott Weingart, 
who is an expert
in emergency medicine, critical
care doc in New York city.
He's been on our show, right?
None of this was 
mentioned by Scott
because Scott is actually
at a world-class physician
and an expert, 
and this is not happening
the way she's saying.
So, she's saying a lot
of patients are coming in
and getting intubated on vents
because they get paid
more to be put on a vent.
And, that the primary diagnosis
for many of these patients 
is anxiety.
So, she's making the
claim, the logical fallacy
that anxiety can lower
your blood oxygen levels
enough that would trigger 
physicians
to put a breathing tube in you.
That is insane.
Let me repeat that.
That is insane.
So that's a logical error, 
right there.
That just doesn't happen.
Also, she has the 
failure to understand
all the other reasons for
the claims she's making,
for example, well, they're
calling this patient COVID,
presumptive COVID when
the test is negative.
Do you understand that false
positive tests are very common?
The swab for COVID-19 RNA
is only 60% sensitive,
which means 40% of the time,
it's gonna be negative
when you have COVID.
So, if they are acting
like they have COVID
and you're concerned about COVID
and they're trying to die on you,
that's a presumptive positive,
even though the test is negative.
So, that's a big part of her
video debunked right there.
She just doesn't 
understand medicine.
Doesn't have the logic to
be able to understand that.
The other, you know,
claims that she makes that,
you know, a patient should be
extubated sooner and all that.
We've talked about that
on our show as well.
This may be true, but there
are criteria for extubation.
If they're unable 
to breathe on their own,
you cannot take a 
breathing tube out.
So, there's a lot of logical
errors that she makes,
but I think the fun, you
know, and the other thing
that these guys do is
they move the goalposts.
So if you go, okay, here's
the answers to your questions.
They go, yeah, 
but what about this?
Or, they re-spin it.
Well, you're just a shill.
And this happens again.
And you start to see her
bias in the last third
of the video, where she
talks about, you know,
they're Cuomo and 
hydroxychloroquine,
and her own politics,
which are COVID denial.
And this thing isn't real,
and we should just go 
to the beach.
So, she's a completely 
unreliable person
in a conspiracy-laden
video that doesn't show
the opposing side, that
makes slanderous claims
about the murder of patients.
The only good to come out 
of this video
is we are now talking about
the suffering of our poor
and minority patients in
hospitals that are underfunded,
which is very important.
We are talking about 
financial incentives,
like the payments to
hospitals, which by the way,
Elmhurst deserves those payments.
Does one of these big
hospitals that makes billions
of dollars in revenue deserve
the payments they're getting?
No, and yet this is a 
great injustice,
so we should be talking 
about that.
We should be talking
about nurses standing up
and having a voice and
being able to call out
where they see mistakes 
are being made.
And there's a process for that
in the hospital to do that.
There are ways to report 
misconduct
and you know, perceived errors.
This is not it.
This is a criminal,
unprofessional con artist
who is trying to get attention.
Who's already shown us
that she doesn't care
about the health of children
because she's anti-vaccine.
So, this is not how you do that.
You guys know, I support 
speaking out.
You guys know, I support nurses.
You guys know, that this is 
horrific.
And the worst part is she's
badmouthing a teaching hospital
where residents are trying to 
learn.
Yes, they will make mistakes.
Yes, they do need support.
They are working on the front lines
and many of them are immigrants.
Many of them are foreign
medical graduates.
She's talking about racism.
What is she doing right there?
Right?
Every person that she's
interviewing on the show
has a thick accent and she's
just calling them incompetent.
So, let's just pay attention 
to that too.
So, that's just my personal
bias on this.
And, this is what I
would ask you guys to do.
When you look at a video like this,
go through this checklist,
do a little searching
on the background of it.
Don't believe it at face value.
I've been really impressed 
with the people
who have been sending me this,
because they've been sending
me it this time saying,
"I'm really suspicious of
this, what do you think?"
And this one's tough.
And so, I think we need to
all come together and go,
yeah, let's look at this.
Okay, all right, took a
minute, but this is a scam,
this woman should be punished.
She should lose any
professional licensure she has
anywhere in the United States,
by the way, we should
have a national licensure
instead of the state nonsense,
because she can just go to 
another state,
get another nursing license.
It's ridiculous.
It's criminal what she's doing.
All right guys.
And, whatever this Journeyman
Pictures is, you know,
they have some good 
interviews on there.
Like I think they had 
David Katz on there
talking about, we need
contrarian opinions,
but we don't need
conspiracy lies like this
and horrible thinking.
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