 
ALMOST EVERY 
STATE IN THE 
COUNTRY TALKING 
ABOUT THESE 
DELAYS. 
FOR EXAMPLE, IN 
MY HOME STATE OF 
NEW YORK, I 
QUOTE "MAIL IS 
DELAYED 5 TO 6 
DAYS IN NEW YORK 
CITY, POSTAL 
WORKERS UNION 
SAYS." 
IN KENTUCKY, 
RANKING MEMBER 
HOME STATE, 
"POSTAL SERVICES 
COST-CUTTING IS 
FRUSTRATING 
KENTUCKIANS AND 
RAISING ELECTION 
CONCERNS." IN 
CALIFORNIA, THE 
HOME STATE OF 
OUR VICE CHAIR, "
LIKE ARMAGEDDON, 
ROTTING FOOD, 
DEAD ANIMALS AND 
CHAOS AT POSTAL 
FACILITIES AMID 
CUTBACKS." 
THIS LIST GOES 
ON AND ON. LAST 
FRIDAY WHEN 
LOUIS DEJOY WAS 
CONFRONTED IN 
THE SENATE WITH 
THESE WIDESPREAD 
REPORTS, HE SAID 
HE FELT BAD 
ABOUT WHAT HE 
CALLED A DIP IN 
SERVICE. 
BUT THEN AFTER 
HIS TESTIMONY IN 
THE SENATE, WE 
OBTAINED AN 
INTERNAL POSTAL 
SERVICE DOCUMENT 
ENTITLED PMG 
BRIEFING. 
THIS IS A 
PRESENTATION 
PREPARED 
DIRECTLY FOR THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
IT IS DATA STILL 
MOST TWO WEEKS 
AGO, AUGUST 12. 
ACCORDING TO 
THIS DOCUMENT, 
THESE DELAYS ARE 
NOT JUST A DIP. 
THIS DOCUMENT 
WARNS THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL OF 
SIGNIFICANT AND 
WIDESPREAD DROPS 
ACROSS THE BOARD.
MARKETING, 
PERIODICALS AND 
OTHER CATEGORIES.
THIS DOCUMENT 
SHOWS THAT THESE 
DELAYS ARE NOT A 
MYTH OR 
CONSPIRACY THEORY
, AS SOME OF MY 
COLLEAGUES HAVE 
ARGUED. 
THESE DEEP 
DECLINES DID NOT 
START IN APRIL 
OR MAY WHEN THE 
CRISIS HIT US, 
BUT IN JULY WHEN 
LOUIS DEJOY CAME 
ON BOARD AND 
BEGAN MAKING HIS 
CHANGES. 
OUR ENTIRE 
COUNTRY IS 
EXPERIENCING 
THESE DELAYS AS 
A RESULT OF 
THESE ACTIONS, 
SUCH AS HIS 
DECISION TO 
RESTRICT THE 
NUMBER OF TRIPS 
FOR PROCESSING 
PLANTS TO 
DELIVER UNITS. 
PERHAPS MR. THE 
JOY THOUGHT HIS 
SWEEPING CHANGES 
WERE NOT CAUSE 
ANY DELAYS. IN 
MY OPINION, THAT 
WOULD BE 
INCOMPETENCE AT 
BEST. 
OR PERHAPS THIS 
WAS INTENTIONAL. 
MAYBE MR. DEJOY 
WAS WARNED HIS 
CHANGES WOULD 
CAUSE DELAY, BUT 
HE DISREGARD 
THOSE  WARNINGS. 
THAT WOULD BE 
EXTREMELY 
RECKLESS IN THE 
MIDDLE OF A 
GLOBAL PANDEMIC 
WITH LESS THAN 
THREE MONTHS 
BEFORE AN 
IMPORTANT 
ELECTION. 
OR PERHAPS THERE 
IS A FAR SIMPLER 
EXPLANATION.  
PERHAPS MR. 
DEJOY IS JUST 
DOING EXACTLY 
WHAT PRESIDENT 
TRUMP SAID HE 
WANTED HIM  TO 
DO ON NATIONAL 
TELEVISION, 
USING THE 
BLOCKING OF 
FUNDS TO JUSTIFY 
SWEEPING CHANGES 
TO HOBBLED MAIL. 
ALL OF THESE 
OPTIONS ARE BAD, 
BUT WHEN YOU 
INSTALL SOMEONE 
AS POSTMASTER 
GENERAL AFTER HE 
DONATES MILLIONS 
OF DOLLARS TO 
YOUR CAMPAIGN, 
WHEN HE RUSHES 
TO MAKE CHANGES 
WITHOUT 
CONDUCTING 
ADEQUATE 
ANALYSIS, AND 
WHEN HE 
WITHHOLDS KEY 
INFORMATION FROM 
CONGRESS AND 
DOESN'T LEVEL 
WITH US WHEN 
PEOPLE BEGIN TO 
ASK WHAT IN THE 
WORLD IS GOING ON
, GIVEN ALL OF 
THIS, IT IS NOT 
SURPRISING THAT 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE 
INSPECTOR GENERAL
HAS ALREADY 
OPENED AN 
INVESTIGATION 
INTO THE 
CONTROVERSIAL 
CHANGES. WE WILL 
BE ASKING MR. 
DEJOY SOME HARD 
QUESTIONS TODAY 
. WE WILL ALSO 
BE ASKING MR. 
DUNCAN, AS 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
BOARD, ABOUT HIS 
OWN ROLE IN 
CHOOSING LOUIS 
DEJOY AS 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL ABOUT 
HIS OWN ROLE IN 
INVENTING MR. 
DEJOY FOR 
CONFLICT OF 
INTEREST, 
INCLUDING  HIS 
OWNERSHIP OF 
STOCK IN MAJOR 
POSTAL SERVICE 
COMPETITORS AND 
YOUR OWN ROLE IN 
DELAYING UNDER 
YOUR WATCH. 
WHATEVER THE 
CAUSE OF THESE 
MASSIVE DELAYS, 
THE AMERICAN 
PEOPLE WANT TO 
GO BACK TO THE 
WAY THINGS WERE. 
THEY DON'T WANT 
THESE CHANGES, 
THEY WANT THEM 
REVERSED. 
THEY DON'T WANT 
ANYONE, NOTHING 
BUT THE POST 
OFFICE, AND THEY 
CERTAINLY DON'T 
WANT IT 
POLITICIZE. 
THEY WANT TO 
HAVE CONFIDENCE 
THAT THEIR MAIL, 
THEIR MEDICINE, 
THEIR BALLOTS 
WILL BE 
DELIVERED ON 
TIME. 
I LOOK FORWARD 
TO HEARING FROM 
OUR WITNESSES, 
AND I NOW 
RECOGNIZE THE 
DISTINGUISHED 
RANKING MEMBER, 
FOR AN OPENING 
STATEMENT. 
>> THANK YOU 
CHAIRMAN. 
I APPRECIATE YOU 
CALLING THE 
HEARING TODAY ON 
THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
SERVICE, EVEN 
THOUGH IT WOULD 
HAVE BEEN NICE 
TO DO SO BEFORE 
WE ACTUALLY 
VOTED ON THE 
BILL SATURDAY. 
WE ALL AGREE 
THAT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE NEEDS TO 
BE REFORMED TO 
BETTER SERVE THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE. 
WE ALL WANT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO BE AS 
EFFICIENT AND 
EFFECTIVE AS 
POSSIBLE TO 
ENSURE AMERICANS 
RECEIVE THEIR 
PRESCRIPTIONS ON 
TIME, SMALL 
BUSINESSES 
THRIVE AND MAIL-
IN BALLOTS ARE 
DELIVERED IN A 
TIMELY FASHION. 
BUT MEANINGFUL 
REFORM IS GOING 
TO TAKE 
BIPARTISANSHIP, 
SOMETHING WE 
HAVE SEEN VERY 
LITTLE OF IN THE 
LAST FEW DAYS. 
DEMOCRATS 
FABRICATED A 
BASELESS 
CONSPIRACY 
THEORY ABOUT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
AND HASTILY 
PASSED A BILL 
SATURDAY, BUT 
BEFORE HEARING 
FROM YOU, MR. 
DEJOY. 
PEOPLE HAD NO 
PRIOR COMMITTEE 
ACTION TO VET 
THE BILL, NO 
HEARINGS . 
BECAUSE OF THIS 
RUSHED PROCESS, 
THE BILL WAS 
SIGNIFICANTLY 
ADMITTED BY THE 
DEMOCRATS BEFORE 
IT WENT TO THE 
RULES COMMITTEE 
AND THEN 
PROCEEDED TO THE 
HOUSE FLOOR 
UNDER A PROCESS 
THAT PREVENTED 
ANY AMENDMENTS 
TO THE BILL. 
THERE WAS NO 
REPUBLICAN 
INPUT, NOT AT 
ANY STEP IN THE 
PROCESS. 
JUST THIS 
MORNING WE HAVE 
LEARNED THAT THE 
U.S. POSTAL 
SERVICE OPPOSES 
THE BILL THAT 
YOU ALL PAST 
SATURDAY. 
THEY READ THE 
BILL AND REALIZED
THAT IT WILL 
MAKE IT HARDER 
AND MORE 
EXPENSIVE TO 
DELIVER THE MAIL
. AT LEAST THIS 
LEGISLATION IS 
CONSISTENT WITH 
THE OBAMA YEARS 
AT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE. 
MORE DELAYS, 
MORE FINANCIAL 
LOSSES. 
THIS CHAIN OF 
EVENTS SHOWS 
DEMOCRATS ARE 
NOT SERIOUS 
ABOUT MEANINGFUL 
REFORM. THE 
PRESIDENT DOES 
NOT SUPPORT THE 
BILL, THE POSTAL 
SERVICE DOES NOT 
SUPPORT THE 
BILL, AND THE 
SENATE WILL 
LIKELY NOT TAKE 
UP THE BILL. 
THIS IS A 
POLITICAL STUNT. 
DURING THE 
DEBATE SATURDAY 
CHAIRWOMAN 
MALONEY UNVEILED 
A 60 PAGE 
POWERPOINT DECK 
SHE JUST 
RECEIVED 
OVERNIGHT FROM 
AN APPARENT 
WHISTLEBLOWER. 
MADAM CHAIR, I 
DON'T NEED TO 
REMIND YOU THAT 
YOUR RECORD WITH 
WHISTLEBLOWERS 
IS LESS THAN 
STELLAR. 
THE DECK IS 
DATED AUGUST 12, 
PROVING HE 
PLAYED NO ROLE 
IN THE CREATION 
OF YOUR BILL, 
WHICH WAS 
UNVEILED THE DAY 
BEFORE. 
IT CONTAINS 
DELIVERY 
PERFORMANCE DATA 
UPDATED SINCE 
THE U.S. POSTAL 
SERVICE THIRD-
QUARTER REPORT. 
IT SHOWS DELAYS 
IN JULY AND 
AUGUST.  I'M 
VERY INTERESTED 
TO HEAR FROM MR. 
DEJOY TODAY 
ABOUT WHAT HE 
HAS LEARNED 
ABOUT THE CAUSES 
OF THESE DELAYS 
. HOW MUCH OF AN 
EFFECT IS ONGOING
WITH THE 
PANDEMIC AND 
INCREASED SICK 
LEAVE HAVING ON 
DELIVERY 
PERFORMANCE? 
HOW DOES THAT 
COMPARE TO ANY 
TEMPORARY 
GROWING PAINS 
FROM EFFORTS TO 
MAKE THE POSTAL 
SERVICE MORE 
EFFICIENT AND 
SELF-SUFFICIENT? 
I SAY I AM 
INTERESTED IN 
THE RESPONSES 
BECAUSE I DON'T 
KNOW THE ANSWERS 
TO THOSE 
QUESTIONS. 
I DON'T BELIEVE 
THE CHAIRWOMAN 
DOES EITHER. 
THIS IS WHY I 
HAVE REPEATEDLY 
SAID, MADDEN 
CHAIRWOMAN, THIS 
COMMITTEE IS 
DOING THINGS 
BACKWARDS. 
WHEN WE MAKE 
POLICY, IT IS 
OUR JOB TO 
UNDERSTAND WHY 
SOMETHING IS 
HAPPENING, HOW 
WOULD YOU FIND 
OUT WHY? 
YOU WOULD HAVE A 
HEARING ON THE 
TOPIC WITH THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
WHEN WOULD YOU 
HAVE THE 
HEARING? 
CERTAINLY BEFORE 
YOU PASS THE 
BILL. 
RETURNING TO 
TODAY, LET ME 
SAY THE POSTAL 
ISSUES ARE 
SOMETHING I'VE 
LONG HEARD 
ABOUT, A GREAT 
DEAL IN MY RURAL 
DYSTOPIC 
IDENTICALLY 
REMEMBER WHEN 
THE OBAMA BIDEN 
ADMINISTRATION, 
A MALE FACILITY 
IN PADUCAH WAS 
CLOSE, RESULTING 
IN LETTERS THAT 
WAS TAKEN DAY TO 
GET FROM POINT A 
TO POINT B NOW 
TAKING THREE 
DAYS. 
I ALSO HEARD A 
LOT ABOUT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
FOR MY 
GRANDMOTHER WHO 
SPENT HER ENTIRE 
CAREER, 27 YEARS,
AS A RURAL MAIL 
CARRIER. 
MY HEART AND 
SYMPATHIES GO 
OUT TO THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
FAMILIES WHO 
HAVE LOST LOVED 
ONES DURING THIS 
PANDEMIC. 
AS HER GRANDSON 
AND THE 
CONGRESSMAN REX 
PRESENTING THE 
FIRST DISTRICT 
OF KENTUCKY AND 
IS A RANKING 
MEMBER OF THIS 
COMMITTEE, I 
WANT TO SEE THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
RETURN TO BEING 
A VIABLE 
INSTITUTION, BUT 
I AM 
DISAPPOINTED 
ABOUT THE 
HISTORICAL 
FRENZY WHIPPED 
UP BY MY 
COLLEAGUES ON 
THE LEFT OTHER 
FRIENDS IN THE 
MEDIA. 
LET'S LOOK AT 
THE MOST OFTEN 
REPEATED CLAIMS. 
DOES THE POSTAL 
SERVICE NEED A 
BAILOUT? 
NO, PACKERS 
DELIVERY HAS 
SHOT THROUGH THE 
ROOF. 
IT IS INCREASED 
REVENUE BY $1.5 
BILLION. 
IT HAS NEARLY 
$15 BILLION CASH 
ON HAND AND CAN 
OPERATE UNTIL AT 
LEAST AUGUST 
2021. 
IS THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL 
SABOTAGING THE 
ELECTION BY 
REMOVING 
MAILBOXES AND 
SORTING MACHINES?
NO. 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE HAS MORE 
THAN ADEQUATE 
PROCESS CITY. 
IF EVERYBODY IN 
THE U.S. 
REQUESTED 
BALLOTS BY MAIL, 
THAT IS STILL 
LESS THAN A ONE 
DAY AVERAGE 
VOLUME. 
THE BLUE BOXES 
AND SORTERS WERE 
BOTH COMPONENTS 
OF LONG-STANDING 
PROGRAMS IN 
RESPONSE TO 
SIGNIFICANT 
REDUCTION IN 
MAIL VOLUME. 
33% REDUCTION 
OVER THE PAST 15 
YEARS. 
FOR REFERENCE, 
UNDER PRESIDENT 
OBAMA, 
APPROXIMATELY 
12,000 BLUE 
MAILBOXES WERE 
REMOVED. 
WE DID NOT HEAR 
ONE WORD FROM 
THE OTHER SIDE 
WHEN HE DID 
THAT. 
THE MAIL SORTERS 
WERE ON TRACK TO 
BE REMOVED 
BECAUSE THEY 
WERE SITTING IDLE
TAKING UP FLOOR 
SPACE FOR MORE 
PRODUCTIVE 
ACTIVITIES. 
IS THE POSTAL 
SERVICE SAY THEY 
WON'T BE ABLE TO 
DELIVER BALLOTS 
ON TIME? 
NO NO. 
WHAT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IS DOING 
AND HAS FOR 
YEARS IS TRYING 
TO WARN STATES 
THEIR LAWS DON'T 
TAKE INTO 
ACCOUNT WHAT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
CAN AND CANNOT 
DO. 
USPS CAN TREAT 
BALLOTS AS FIRST 
CLASS MAIL, BUT 
THEY CANNOT 
BREAK THE LAWS 
OF TIME AND SPACE
. THE LETTERS 
THE DEMOCRATS 
CHARACTERIZE AS 
THREATS AND 
PROPAGANDA ARE 
GOOD FAITH 
EFFORTS TO 
PREVENT WEEKS OF 
UNCERTAINTY AND 
CONFUSION SUCH 
AS WHAT HAPPENED 
VERY RECENTLY 
WITH THE RACE 
FOR CHAIRWOMAN 
MALONEY AND THE 
CHARGES ABOUT 
OVERTIME, THOSE 
CAME FROM AN 
EFFORT TO REDUCE 
BILLIONS OF 
DOLLARS IN 
OVERTIME AND 
EXTRA TRUCK 
TRIPS THE POSTAL 
SERVICE SPENDS 
EVERY YEAR. 
IF OVERTIME AND 
EXTRA TRIPS ARE 
NORMAL, IT MEANS 
SOMETHING IS 
WRONG AND YOU 
BETTER FIX IT. 
ON FRIDAY BEFORE 
THE SENATE 
HOMELAND 
SECURITY 
COMMITTEE 
HEARING, MR. 
DEJOY 
ACKNOWLEDGE THE 
RECENT DIP IN 
SERVICE AND TOOK 
RESPONSIBILITY  
FOR THIS 
PERFORMANCE 
LAPSE. 
THE LOGICAL STEP 
IS TO UNDERSTAND 
WHY THIS 
HAPPENED AND 
COME UP WITH A 
PLAN. EVEN 
THOUGH YOUR BILL 
WOULD PREVENT 
THAT, I HOPE 
THAT TODAY HELPS 
IN THAT PROCESS. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> I THANK THE 
GENTLEMAN FOR 
HIS STATEMENT. 
I ASK UNANIMOUS 
CONSENT TO PLACE 
IN THE RECORD 
THE SERVICE 
PERFORMANCE 
MEASUREMENT 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL BRIEFING
, AN OFFICIAL 
REPORT FROM THE 
POST OFFICE, 
DATA, RESEARCH, 
FACTS, AND IN 
THIS REPORT THE 
FACTS SPEAK FOR 
THEMSELVES. THEY 
SHOW THAT UNDER 
THE FIRST TWO 
MONTHS OF THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERALS WORK, 
THE SERVICE SELL 
ANYWHERE FROM 6% 
TO 10% IN ALL 
THE MAJOR 
CATEGORIES. 
MY BILL MERELY 
FUNDS THE POST 
OFFICE AND 
RETURNS IT BACK 
TO THE WAY IT WAS
SO THAT THE 
SERVICES CAN GET 
THE MAIL OUT TO 
THE PEOPLE 
DURING A PANDEMIC
AND BEFORE A 
VERY IMPORTANT 
ELECTION. 
AFTER THE 
PANDEMIC, WE CAN 
REVISIT AND HAVE 
OTHER STATEMENTS 
AND WORK GO 
FORWARD, BUT 
LET'S NOT 
DISMANTLE THE 
SERVICES TO THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE, 
THE VETERANS, 
THE SENIORS, 
PEOPLE DESERVE 
TO GET THEIR 
MAIL AND A 
TIMELY WAY. 
MOST DISTRICTS 
ARE HAVING 
PEOPLE CALLING 
FRANTICALLY, 
WHERE IS MY 
MALE? 
WHERE ARE MY 
MEDICATIONS? 
SPAT FACTS SPEAK 
FOR THEMSELVES. 
I'M PLACING THIS 
INTO THE RECORD. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
THE 
DISTINGUISHED 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE ON 
GOVERNMENT 
OPERATIONS WHO 
HAS DONE A GREAT 
DEAL OF WORK IN 
THIS AREA, MR. 
CALMLY, FOR HIS 
OPENING 
STATEMENT. 
>> THANK YOU 
MADDEN 
CHAIRWOMAN FOR 
YOUR LEADERSHIP. 
I WAS PROUD TO 
COSPONSOR YOUR 
BILL THAT PASSED 
THE HOUSE WITH 
26 REPUBLICANS 
SHOWING THE 
COURAGE TO 
ADDRESS AN 
EMERGENCY WITH 
RESPECT TO THE 
MOST ESTEEMED 
INSTITUTION OF 
GOVERNMENT IN 
AMERICA. 
WE HAVE AN 
OBLIGATION, 
CONSTITUTIONALLY, 
TO ENSURE THAT 
SOMETHING THAT 
HAS BEEN PART OF 
THE AMERICAN 
FABRIC SINCE 
1775 HAS A 
FUTURE. 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IS NOT 
ONLY FIGHTING 
FOR ITS ECONOMIC 
SURVIVAL, IT IS 
FIGHTING TO 
MAINTAIN 120 
YEARS OF 
PROFESSIONAL 
SERVICE READ OF 
ROTTEN PATRONAGE 
SYSTEMS THAT 
SERVE ELECTED 
OFFICIALS AND 
NOT THOSE WHO 
RELY ON MAIL 
EVERY DAY. 
WE ARE HERE TODAY
TO SAVE THE 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
WE HAVE IN FRONT 
OF IS A NEWLY 
APPOINTED 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL AND 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS THAT 
SELECTED HIM FOR 
THAT POST. 
WE HAVE A PMG 
WHO, SIX WEEKS 
INTO THE NEW 
JOB, IN THE 
MIDST OF A 
GLOBAL PANDEMIC 
AND JUST WEEKS 
BEFORE A 
CONSEQUENTIAL 
NATIONAL ELECTION
WHERE THE POSTAL 
SERVICE WILL 
PLAY AN 
UNPRECEDENTED 
ROLE, DECIDES TO 
ANNOUNCE A 
SWEEPING 
REORGANIZATION 
THAT HE ADMITS 
COULD SLOW DOWN 
MAIL AND WILL 
UNDOUBTEDLY 
INFUSE 
UNCERTAINTY INC. 
CONFUSION INTO 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE AND 
NEIGHBORHOODS 
ALL ACROSS 
AMERICA. 
HE ANNOUNCED 
THAT THESE AND 
OTHER CHANGES 
WITHOUT ENGAGING 
STAFF, UNIONS, 
TRADE 
ORGANIZATIONS, 
MAIL RECIPIENTS 
OR CONGRESS.  IN 
FACT, CONGRESS 
WAS TOLD MR. 
DEJOY DID NOT 
YET FEEL 
PREPARED TO 
RESPOND TO ANY 
QUESTIONS WE 
MIGHT HAVE FOR 
HIM.  
YET, HE FELT 
CONFIDENT ENOUGH 
TO FREEZE 
OVERTIME, DELAY 
MAIL DELIVERY 
AND ANNOUNCE 
SWEEPING 
ORGANIZATIONS. 
MR. DUNCAN, 
CONGRATULATIONS 
ON BEING THE 
RUBBERSTAMP. THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS IS 
REQUIRED BY LAW 
TO REPRESENT THE 
PUBLIC INTEREST, 
NOT THE 
PRESIDENT, IN 
THE POLITICAL 
PARTY AND NOT 
EVEN THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
TODAY THE POSTAL 
SERVICE EMPLOYS 
650,000 PEOPLE. 
IT IS THE 
FOUNDATION FOR 
MORE THAN A $1.7 
TRILLION MAILING 
INDUSTRY THAT 
EMPLOYS ANOTHER 
7.5 MILLION 
PEOPLE. 
AT THE TURN OF 
THE LAST CENTURY 
THE U.S. POST 
OFFICE WAS 
NOTHING MORE 
THAN 77,000 
PATRONAGE 
POSITIONS RIPE 
WITH GROSS 
INCOMPETENCE AND 
OFTEN 
EMBEZZLEMENT OF 
FUNDS. 
IT WAS RURAL 
AMERICA THAT 
USED ITS 
POLITICAL VOICE 
AT THAT TIME TO 
PROFESSIONALIZE 
THE POST OFFICE. 
INSTEAD OF 
TRAVELING MILES 
TO THE CLOSEST 
GENERAL STORE TO 
PICK UP MAIL 
FROM A POLITICAL 
HACK, RURAL 
RESIDENTS 
LOBBIED CONGRESS 
FOR FREE 
DELIVERY. 
AND INNOVATION 
THE FRONT MAIL 
DELIVERY TO EVEN 
THE MOST DISTANT 
OF HOMES AND 
BUSINESSES. 
THE MASSIVE 
GRASSROOTS 
LOBBYING EFFORT 
PUT THOSE WITH 
ACUMEN AND 
EXPERTISE INTO 
THE POST OFFICE 
AND REFOCUSED 
POLITICAL 
LEADERS AND WHAT 
THEY WERE 
ELECTED TO DO, 
SERVE THE 
PEOPLE, NOT 
THERE POLITICAL 
PARTIES. 
AS A NATION, THE 
PEOPLE 
TRANSFORMED THE 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
THIS HISTORY 
LESSON RESONATES 
TODAY. 
YET ANOTHER 
RECKONING FOR 
THIS COUNTRY AND 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE. 
HERE AGAIN THE 
PEOPLE OF THE 
NATION HAVE 
STOOD UP LOUDLY 
AND CONSISTENTLY 
TO CONDEMN 
ATTEMPTS TO TURN 
A CROWN JEWEL OF 
THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, ONE 
OF THE MOST 
TRUSTED AGENCIES 
AMONG THE 
HUNDREDS THAT 
SERVE THIS 
NATION, INTO A 
HONEYPOT. 
WE CANNOT AND 
MUST NOT LET 
THAT HAPPEN. 
DURING THIS 
PANDEMIC, THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
WAS A LIFELINE 
TO THE DELIVERY 
OF LIFESAVING 
PRESCRIPTION 
MEDICATIONS, 
MEDICAL 
EQUIPMENT, FOOD 
AND PANTRY 
STAPLES, 
STIMULUS CHECKS 
TO PAY RENT AND 
UTILITY BILLS, 
CENSUS FORMS AND 
EVEN SIMPLY 
COUPONS TO HELP 
STRUGGLING 
FAMILIES STAY 
OUT OF POVERTY. 
WHAT LEADER 
WOULD THINK THAT 
EVEN THE 
POSSIBILITY OF 
SLOWING DOWN 
MAIL IN A TIME 
SUCH AS THIS IS 
A GOOD IDEA? 
WHAT LEADER 
WOULD TAKE STEPS 
TO FREEZE 
OVERTIME FOR A 
WORKFORCE 
LITERALLY 
RISKING HIS LIFE 
EVERY DAY TO 
DELIVER MAIL TO 
THE PEOPLE OF 
THIS NATION? 
40,000 POSTAL 
WORKERS HAVE 
CONTRACTED COVID-
19 OR BEEN 
QUARANTINED 
BECAUSE OF IT. 
40,000. 
AS THE NEW PMG, 
MR. DEJOY HAS 
RECKLESSLY CUT 
HOURS AND 
DELAYED DELIVERY 
TIMES AND THE 
PURSUIT OF 
UNSUPPORTED 
OPERATIONAL 
EFFICIENCY. 
IS NEVER ONCE 
ASKED CONGRESS 
TO HELP, DESPITE 
A TEAM OF 
MEMBERS READY TO 
PROVIDE  
FINANCIAL AND 
OTHER SUPPORT. 
THE CHAIRWOMAN 
AND I, ALONG 
WITH A 
COLLECTION OF 
HUNDREDS OF 
MEMBERS, ARE 
INVITED TO HELP 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE WITH $75 
BILLION IN 
SUPPORT TO A 
DEDICATED 
WORKFORCE TO 
INVEST IN A 
MODERNIZED AND 
GREEN POSTAL 
FLEET THAT 
DOESN'T EXPLODE. 
TO PAY FOR 
INFORMATION 
TECHNOLOGY 
INVESTMENTS THAT 
CAN STREAMLINE 
COMMUNICATIONS 
FROM TRUCKS AND 
PLANES RUNNING 
LATE WITH 
IMPORTANT CROSS 
COUNTY OR 
INTERNATIONAL 
MAIL DELIVERIES. 
MR. DEJOY AND 
MR. DUNCAN HAVE 
FAILED TO WORK 
WITH CONGRESS TO 
GET THIS 
ENACTED. 
THUS FAR,  THE 
AIRLINE INDUSTRY 
HAS RECEIVED $25 
MILLION IN 
REVENUE 
STABILIZATION, 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE, NOT A 
DIME. 
ON AUGUST 18 THE 
PMG ANNOUNCED HE 
WOULD PUT A HOLD 
ON SOME OF THE 
SWEEPING 
OPERATIONAL 
CHANGES, BUT HIS 
ANNOUNCEMENT DID 
NOT COMMIT TO 
REVERSING THE 
SERVICING 
CAPACITY CUTS 
ALREADY MADE. 
IT DID NOT 
INCLUDE AN 
AGENDA THAT 
SUPPORTED 
ELECTION MAIL 
BUT THE SUMMER 
STRENGTHEN 
COMMITMENT TO 
HELPING THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO FILL ITS 
HISTORIC ROLE IN 
THE UPCOMING 
ELECTION. 
LASTLY, THE PMG 
IS STILL NOT 
ADVOCATING FOR 
THE ADDITIONAL 
FUNDING FOR THE 
POSTAL SERVICE, 
DESPITE THE FACT 
THAT THE 
REPUBLICAN 
CONTROLLED TRUMP 
APPOINTED BOARD 
OF GOVERNORS 
UNANIMOUSLY 
CALLED FOR THAT 
PACKAGE. 
THAT A 
DEMOCRATIC IDEA, 
A REPUBLICAN 
DOMINATED BOARD 
UNANIMOUSLY 
RECOMMENDING IT. 
THE RECENT 
OPERATIONAL AND 
ORGANIZATIONAL 
CHANGES MR. 
DEJOY HAS MADE 
HAVE RESULTED IN 
DELIVERY DELAYS 
ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY , AS THE 
CHAIRWOMAN JUST 
SHOWED. 
THAT IS NOT OUR 
DATA, THAT IS 
YOURS, MR. 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
THESE DELAYS 
HAVE REAL IMPACT 
SEVERAL LIVES 
WITH REAL 
CONSEQUENCES. 
MOST 
DEVASTATINGLY, 
IT HAS DAMAGE 
THE CREDIBILITY 
OF THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IN A 
PRAIRIE BRIEF 
TIME. 
CONGRATULATIONS, 
MR. DEJOY. 
AN ESTEEMED 
INSTITUTION THAT 
NOW IF IN DOUBT  
IN THE AMERICAN 
PUBLIC MIND. 
I APPLAUD MY 
COLLEAGUES FOR 
PASSING THE 
DELIVERY FOR 
AMERICA ACT BILL 
BECAUSE WE NEED 
TO ACT NOW AND 
REVERSE THIS AND 
REASSURE THE 
AMERICAN PUBLIC 
THAT THEY WILL 
GET THEIR MAIL 
ON TIME, AND 
THAT THEIR 
BALLOTS WILL GET 
THERE ON TIME 
AND BE COUNTED. 
THIS IS ABOUT 
THE FUTURE OF 
OUR DEMOCRATIC 
INSTITUTIONS. 
THIS IS THE 
FUTURE ABOUT THE 
MOST IMPORTANT 
ELECTION IN MY 
LIFETIME. 
THAT IS WHAT IS 
AT STAKE TODAY. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> MADAM CHAIR. 
>> I WOULD JUST 
LIKE TO MAKE A 
POINT THAT YOU 
DIDN'T NOTIFIER 
COMMITTEE THAT 
MR. CONNELLY AS 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
WOULD BE 
DELIVERING OPEN 
REMARKS. 
THAT IS ANOTHER 
EXAMPLE OF THIS 
RUSHED PROCESS. 
I WOULD LIKE TO 
ASK THAT OUR 
RANKING MEMBER 
OF THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
ALSO BE ALLOWED 
TO DELIVER 
OPENING REMARKS. 
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
THE STAFF TOLD 
ME THEY REACHED 
OUT TO YOU AND 
YOUR STAFF. 
IT IS GENERAL 
THAT THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
THAT HAS THE 
JURISDICTION 
SHOULD SPEAK ON 
BOTH SIDES. 
I HAVE IN MY 
NOTES THAT THE 
RANKING MEMBER 
ON THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE OF 
GOVERNMENT 
OPERATIONS WILL 
ALSO BE GIVING 
AN OPENING 
STATEMENT. 
I WAS TOLD THAT 
THEY DID REACH 
OUT. IN THE 
FUTURE, I WILL 
PERSONALLY CALL 
YOU MYSELF AND 
MAKE SURE IT 
GETS TO YOU. 
I WAS TOLD BY 
STAFF THEY 
TALKED TO YOUR 
STAFF THAT THEY 
HAD REACHED OUT 
TO YOU. 
OF THAT NOT GET 
TO YOU, I 
APOLOGIZE. 
WILL PERSONALLY 
CALL YOU EVERY 
TIME, BUT IT IS 
USUALLY THE 
STANDARD THAT WE 
MAKE AN OPENING 
STATEMENT IN THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
WITH THE 
JURISDICTION 
MAKES AN OPENING 
STATEMENT. 
>> I AGREE, AND 
I APPRECIATE THE 
CHAIRWOMAN DOING 
THAT. 
THAT IS 
IMPORTANT WHY WE 
NEED TO BE 
PREPARED AND NOT 
RUSH THINGS LIKE 
WE HAVE WITH 
THIS POSTAL 
REFORM BILL. 
>> MADAM 
CHAIRWOMAN. 
IF I CAN COME TO 
YOUR DEFENSE, IT 
HAS BEEN YOUR 
PRACTICES 
CHAIRWOMAN THAT 
WHEN IT IS THE 
JURISDICTION OF 
A SUBCOMMITTEE, 
YOU HAVE ALWAYS 
ALLOWED THE 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
CHAIR AND THE 
RANKING MEMBER 
TO HAVE OPENING 
STATEMENTS. 
THAT IS 
PRACTICE. 
IT IS NOT 
SOMETHING YOU 
SPRUNG ON US 
TODAY. 
I CAN THINK OF 
AT LEAST FOUR 
EXAMPLES. 
IT IS ACTUALLY 
THE PRACTICE OF 
THE COMMITTEE 
FOR THE 
CHAIRWOMAN TO DO 
JUST THAT. 
>> MADAM CHAIR, 
IF I MAY, I 
AGREE IT IS 
PRACTICE. 
WE JUST WEREN'T 
NOTIFIED. 
IT WASN'T ON THE 
AGENDA ITEM THAT 
WE RECEIVED. 
WE APPRECIATE 
THAT. IS MY 
UNDERSTANDING HE 
IS PREPARED TO 
DELIVER AN 
IMPROMPTU 
OPENING 
STATEMENT. 
>> OKAY. 
FIRST OF ALL, I 
WANT TO THANK 
MR. CONNELLY FOR 
POINTING THAT 
OUT AND ALSO 
POINTING OUT THE 
DOUBLE STANDARD 
THAT BUSINESSES 
SUCH AS THE 
AIRLINES AND 
OTHERS ARE 
RECEIVING 
FEDERAL AID IN 
THE HERE IS 
PACKAGE IN THE 
COVID RELIEF 
PACKAGE, BUT THE 
VITAL SERVICES 
FROM OUR POST 
OFFICE THAT SO 
MANY PEOPLE 
DEPEND ON, A 
LIFELINE TO 
AMERICANS ACROSS 
AMERICA, THEY 
DESERVE TO BE 
FUNDED TOO. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
THE 
DISTINGUISHED 
SUBCOMMITTEE 
CHAIRMAN FOR 
GOVERNMENT 
OPERATIONS FOR 
AN OPENING 
STATEMENT. YOU 
ARE RECOGNIZED. 
>> THANK YOU 
MADAM CHAIR. 
I APPRECIATE 
THAT. 
YES, WE WERE NOT 
NOTIFIED OF 
THIS, BUT I'M 
HAPPY TO TAKE A 
FEW MOMENTS. 
AGAIN HERE WE 
ARE HAVING A 
HEARING AFTER A 
VOTE. I THINK 
THIS IS 
ABSOLUTELY 
DISGUSTING. 
CERTAINLY, WE 
HAVE HAD MANY 
VOTES WITHOUT 
BOTHERING TO 
HAVE A HEARING, 
BUT I DON'T EVER 
RECALL HAVING A 
VOTE TO SO-
CALLED FIX 
SOMETHING, AND 
THEN HAVE THE 
HEARING 
AFTERWARDS. 
THIS IS 
UNPRECEDENTED. 
TO ME I BELIEVE 
THIS IS AN 
EXAMPLE OF 
POLITICAL 
MALPRACTICE ON 
THE SIDE OF THE 
DEMOCRATS. 
WE ARE HERE TO 
TALK ABOUT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
AND MADAM CHAIR 
I'M GRAD YOU 
BROUGHT UP THE 
HERE IS ACT 
BECAUSE IN 
ITSELF, IN THE 
HERE IS ACT, I 
BELIEVE THAT IS 
THE UNVEILING OF 
WHAT THE 
DEMOCRATS ARE 
REALLY TRYING TO 
DO. 
THAT IS 
THEMSELVES TO 
FRAUDULENTLY 
INFLUENCE THE 
UPCOMING ELECTION
. IN THE HERE IS 
ACT IS A 
REQUIREMENT FOR 
UNIVERSAL MAIL-
IN BALLOTS. IN 
THE HEROES ACT 
IS THE 
REQUIREMENT IF 
BOTH STATES 
CANNOT BE 
INVOLVED IN 
REQUIRING VOTER 
ID. WE'RE GOING 
TO HAVE TENS OF 
MILLIONS OF 
BALLOTS SENT OUT 
ALL ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY TOO MANY 
PEOPLE WHO 
PERHAPS ARE 
DECEASED, TO 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
MOVED, TO 
PEOPLE, WHO 
KNOWS WHO THEY 
ARE, AND STATES 
ARE NOT GOING TO 
BE ABLE TO HAVE 
ANY VOTER ID IF 
THE DEMOCRATS 
HAVE THEIR WAY, 
AND THEN WE'RE 
GOING TO HAVE THE
BALLOT 
HARVESTING TAKE 
PLACE. 
THIS IS WHAT IS 
AT STAKE. 
I AGREE WITH 
CHAIRMAN 
CONNELLY SAYING 
THIS IS THE MOST 
IMPORTANT 
ELECTION. 
THIS IS WHAT IS 
AT STAKE. 
IF THE DEMOCRATS 
HAVE THEIR WAY 
IN THE 
SELECTION, IT 
WILL BE FILLED 
WITH FRAUD, IT 
WILL BE FILLED 
WITH CONFUSION, 
IT WILL BE 
FILLED WITH 
LAWSUITS BECAUSE 
THAT IS WHAT IS 
IN THE HEROES 
ACT TO PRODUCE. 
IF THE DEMOCRATS 
HAVE THEIR WAY. 
THANKFULLY, THAT 
BILL IS NOT 
GOING ANYWHERE 
ANY FURTHER THAN 
THE BILL THAT 
WAS PASSED 
SATURDAY BEFORE 
THE HEARING. 
THEN WE TALK 
ABOUT DELAYS 
THAT THE USPS 
HAS. 
WE HAVEN'T EVEN 
HAD HEARINGS ON 
THE USPS SINCE I 
BELIEVE APRIL 
2019. NOW ALL 
THE SUDDEN WE 
ARE CALLED IN 
FOR AN EMERGENCY 
OVER THIS WHOLE 
THING. 
WE HAD A BRIEFING
IN APRIL OF THIS 
YEAR, NOT A 
HEARING, A 
BRIEFING, AND 
THE PURPOSE OF 
THAT BRIEFING 
WAS TO DISCUSS 
THE DELAYS OF 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE DUE TO 
COVID-19. 
YES, THERE ARE 
DELAYS AND THERE 
ARE THOUSANDS OF 
USPS WORKERS WHO 
ARE NOT SHOWING 
UP FOR WORK DUE 
TO COVID-19. ARE 
WE SURPRISED 
THAT THERE ARE 
DELAYS? 
OF COURSE NOT. 
WE HAD A 
BRIEFING TO 
DISCUSS THAT 
JUST A COUPLE 
MONTHS AGO. 
THE POSTMASTER 
GENERAL HAS 
NOTHING TO DO 
WITH COVID-19. 
HE HAS NOTHING 
TO DO WITH THE 
ECONOMY, NOR 
ANYTHING TO DO 
WITH THOUSANDS 
OF HIS WORKERS 
NOT SHOWING UP. 
WE ALSO HAVE 
CITIES THAT ARE 
RIOTING. 
OF COURSE, THERE 
ARE DELAYS IN 
MANY OF THOSE 
CITIES, 
MINNEAPOLIS, 
PORTLAND, 
CHICAGO, LOS 
ANGELES, 
WHEREVER IT MAY 
BE. 
THE FACT OF THE 
MATTER IS, THE 
BAILOUT THE PAST 
ON SATURDAY IN 
THE HOUSE OF 
REPRESENTATIVES 
WAS POINTLESS. 
IT REFUSES THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO 
HAVE ANY 
REFORMS. 
AND SO, WE HAVE 
A POSTAL SERVICE 
RIGHT NOW THAT 
HAS $14 MILLION 
CASH ON HAND, 
ANOTHER $10 
BILLION 
AVAILABLE TO THEM
WITH THE 
TREASURY, AND 
THEY CAN'T EVEN 
GET ACCESS TO 
THE $10 BILLION 
BECAUSE THEY 
HAVE TOO MUCH 
CASH ON HAND. 
AND AT, WE PASS 
A BILL FOR 
ANOTHER $25 
BILLION, AND IN 
THAT BILL WE 
DISALLOW THEM 
FROM MAKING ANY 
CHANGES. IT 
DOESN'T MATTER 
HOW MUCH MONEY 
WE KEEP THROWING 
AT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IF WE 
DON'T ALLOW FOR 
REFORM TO TAKE 
PLACE, WHICH IS 
WHAT IS 
DESPERATELY 
NEEDED. 
WITH THAT, I DO 
LOOK FORWARD TO 
THIS HEARING 
GOING FORWARD. I 
FULLY ANTICIPATE 
A LOT OF 
POLITICAL FEAR 
FOR MY FRIENDS 
ON THE OPPOSITE 
SIDE OF THE 
AISLE. 
I DO ANTICIPATE 
THE CONTINUED 
ATTEMPT TO 
PORTRAY A 
CONSPIRACY THAT 
DOES NOT EXIST 
WHEN, IN FACT, 
IT IS THEIR OWN 
PARTY THAT I 
BELIEVE ARE 
FULLY COMMITTED 
BASED UPON THE 
HEROES ACT AND 
OTHER COMMENTS 
TO INFLUENCE 
THIS UPCOMING 
ELECTION USING 
FRAUDULENT 
METHODS. WITH 
THAT, MADAM 
CHAIR, I YIELD 
BACK AND 
APPRECIATE YOU 
GIVING ME THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO 
SPEAK. 
>> I NOW 
RECOGNIZE MARK 
WALKER TO 
INTRODUCE OUR 
FIRST WITNESS, 
WHO IS A 
CONSTITUENT OF 
HIS. 
>> THANK YOU 
MADAM CHAIR 
MALONEY AND 
RANKING MEMBER 
COMER. 
IT IS MY 
PRIVILEGE TO AND 
INTRODUCE THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL OF THE 
UNITED STATES. 
MR. DEJOY HAS 
EARNED THE 
RESPECT OF BOTH 
CHARITABLE AND 
BUSINESS 
COMMUNITIES.  
SINCE ITS 
CREATION IN 
2005, HIS 
FOUNDATION HAS 
POSITIVELY 
IMPACTED 
THOUSANDS OF 
PEOPLE, DUKE 
UNIVERSITY, THE 
HEALTH CENTER 
FOR CHILDREN, 
POLICE 
FOUNDATIONS, 
JUST TO NAME A 
FEW. 
I WAS ACTUALLY 
PRESENT WHEN MR. 
DEJOY WAS 
INDUCTED INTO 
THE HALL OF FAME 
FOR THE TRIADS 
JUNIOR 
ACHIEVEMENT 
BUSINESS 
LEADERS, THE 
WORLD'S LARGEST 
ORGANIZATION 
EDUCATING K-12 
STUDENTS ON 
FINANCIAL 
LITERACY AND 
ENTREPRENEURSHIP. 
JUST THIS PAST 
WEEK I RECEIVED 
IN THE MAIL THE 
FAMILY 
CONTRIBUTION, 
THE SPONSORSHIP 
OF FAMILY 
SERVICES OF THE 
PIEDMONT WHICH 
SERVES 18,000 
CHILDREN AND 
ADULTS, MANY 
BATTLING 
DOMESTIC 
VIOLENCE ISSUES. 
MAYBE THE MOST 
IMPRESSIVE ACT 
BY THE FAMILY IS 
THE ONE 
ESTABLISHED FOR 
STUDENTS FROM 
TITLE I SCHOOLS. 
YOU SEE, I HAVE 
HAD THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO 
MEET SOME OF THE 
STUDENTS WHO 
COME FROM SOME 
OF THE MOST 
IMPOVERISHED 
AREAS. 
IT IS NOT 
SOMETHING HE 
FLAUNTS, IS JUST 
SOMETHING HE 
DOES. 
THROUGHOUT HIS 
PROFESSIONAL 
CAREER, LOUIS 
DEJOY HAS 
GARNERED A 
REPUTATION AS A 
GENIUS IN THE 
LOGISTICAL 
INNOVATION AND 
SUPPLY-CHAIN 
FIELD. 
IS THE CEO OF 
NEW BREED 
LOGISTICS HE 
TOOK A BROKEN 
TRUCKING COMPANY 
AND TRANSFORMED 
IT INTO A 
PROMINENT U.S. 
PROVIDER 
CREATING CLOSE TO
9000 JOBS. MAYBE 
THAT IS WHY HE 
WAS UNANIMOUSLY 
APPOINTED TO THE 
POSITION BY THE 
UPS PS BIPARTISAN
BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS. 
MR. DEJOY HAS 
BEEN ON THE JOB 
ABOUT TWO MONTHS 
. HE IS BEING 
BLAMED FOR 
IMPLEMENTING 
REFORMS CONGRESS 
HAS PASSED.  FOR 
EXAMPLE, BACK IN 
2006, IT WASN'T 
MR. DEJOY WHO 
PASSED THE 
POSTAL 
ACCOUNTABILITY 
AND ENHANCEMENT 
ACT, IT WAS 
ACTUALLY 
CONGRESS. 
THE LEADING 
SPONSOR ON THIS 
BILL WAS THE ONE 
WITH THE BIGGEST 
PICTURE IN THE 
ROOM, FORMER 
CHAIR THIS 
COMMITTEE, HENRY 
WAXMAN.  
TODAY MR. DEJOY 
WILL BE 
VICIOUSLY 
ATTACKED WITH 
PREPACKAGED 
QUESTIONS AND 
ACCUSATIONS. 
WOMEN WERE EVEN 
SUGGESTING 
IMPEACHMENT. 
THAT IS 
ORIGINAL. 
HOW SAD IS IT 
WHEN THE CANCEL 
CULTURE HAS 
REACHED THE 
HALLS OF 
CONGRESS . THE 
MAN SITTING 
BEFORE THE 
COMMITTEE TODAY 
IS NOT TO THE 
DEMOCRATS OF 
HELLENIZED HIM 
TO BE. 
HE IS HERE TODAY 
BECAUSE HE 
SUPPORTED 
PRESIDENT TRUMP. 
WITH THIS 
CONGRESS, THAT 
MAKES YOU A 
TARGET. 
OVER THE PAST 
MONTH HIS FAMILY 
HAS ENDURED 
PROTESTS OUTSIDE 
THEIR HOME WITH 
HUNDREDS OF 
PEOPLE BLOCKING 
STREETS AND 
FRIGHTENING 
NEIGHBORS. 
SADLY, AND THIS 
DAY AND AGE, AN 
INDUSTRY LEADER 
WITH A PASSION 
FOR SERVICE CAN 
BE PERSECUTED IN 
THE COURT OF 
PUBLIC OPINION 
FOR HIS APPARENT 
POLITICAL 
AFFILIATION. 
AT THE CIRCUS 
UNFOLDS TODAY, 
REMEMBER THAT 
LOUIS DEJOY IS A 
COMMUNITY MINDED 
PHILANTHROPIST, 
AN INDUSTRY-
LEADING 
BUSINESSMAN, AND 
MOST 
IMPORTANTLY, A 
MAN WITH A GOOD 
HEART DOING HIS 
BEST TO SERVE 
HIS COUNTRY. 
MR. DEJOY, I 
WANT TO COMMEND 
YOU FOR BEING 
HERE TODAY.  
MANY OF YOUR 
ACCUSERS DIDN'T 
EXTEND THE SAME 
COURTESY, BUT 
UNLIKE THE 
SENATOR FROM 
DELAWARE, LET'S 
HOPE THEY AT 
LEAST KNOW HOW 
TO MUTE 
THEMSELVES. 
THANK YOU MADAM 
CHAIR. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> THANK YOU. 
THE SECOND 
WITNESS IS 
ROBERT DUNCAN, 
WHO IS THE 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS. 
HE WAS APPOINTED 
TO THE BOARD BY 
RESIDENT DONALD 
TRUMP IN AUGUST 
2018, AND HIS 
TERM EXPIRES IN 
DECEMBER 2025. 
PLEASE STAND AND 
RAISE YOUR RIGHT 
HAND. 
DO YOU SWEAR, 
AFFIRM THAT THE 
TESTIMONY YOU'RE 
ABOUT TO GIVE IS 
THE TRUTH, THE 
WHOLE TRUTH AND 
THAT THE WHOLE 
TRUTH SO HELP 
YOU GOD? 
LET THE RECORD 
SHOW THAT THE 
WITNESSES ARE 
AFFIRMED IN THE 
AFFIRMATIVE. 
WITHOUT A 
JUNCTION, URINE 
STATEMENTS WILL 
BE PART OF THE 
RECORD. 
WITH THAT, MR. 
DEJOY, YOU ARE 
NOW RECOGNIZED 
FOR YOUR 
TESTIMONY. 
>>  GOOD MORNING 
CHAIRWOMAN 
MALONEY, RANKING 
MEMBER COMER AND 
MEMBERS OF THE 
COMMITTEE. 
I AM PROUD TO BE 
WITH YOU TODAY 
ON BEHALF OF THE 
630,000  
DEDICATED WOMEN 
AND MEN OF THE 
UNITED STATES 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
ON JUNE 15 I 
BECAME THE 75th 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
SINCE THAT TIME, 
FOR A VARIETY OF 
REASONS, THERE 
HAS BEEN A GREAT 
DEAL OF 
ATTENTION TO THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
BY OUR ELECTED 
OFFICIALS, THE 
MEDIA AND THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE. 
I WANT TO BEGIN 
BY ASSURING THIS 
COMMITTEE AND 
THE AMERICAN 
PUBLIC THAT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
IS FULLY CAPABLE 
AND COMMITTED TO 
DELIVERING 
BALLOTS SECURELY 
AND ON TIME. 
THE SACRED DUTY 
IS MY NUMBER ONE 
PRIORITY BETWEEN 
NOW AND ELECTION 
DAY. 
TO BE CLEAR, WE 
WILL DO 
EVERYTHING WE CAN
TO HANDLE AND 
DELIVER ELECTION 
MAIL IN A MANNER 
CONSISTENT WITH 
THE PROVEN 
PROCESSES AND 
PROCEDURES WE 
HAVE RELIED UPON 
FOR YEARS. 
NEVERTHELESS, I 
ENCOURAGE ALL 
AMERICANS WHO 
CHOOSE TO VOTE 
BY MAIL TO 
REQUEST THEIR 
BALLOTS EARLY 
AND TO VOTE EARLY
AS A COMMONSENSE 
BEST PRACTICE. 
AS PART OF THIS 
CONVERSATION, 
THERE ARE MANY 
INACCURACIES 
ABOUT MY ACTIONS 
THAT I WISH TO 
AGAIN CORRECT. 
FIRST, I DID NOT 
DIRECTLY REMOVE 
BLUE COLLECTION 
BOXES OR THE 
REMOVAL OF MAIL 
PROCESSING 
EQUIPMENT. 
SECOND, I DO NOT 
DIRECT A CUTBACK 
ON HOURS ANY OF 
OUR POST OFFICES.
AND FINALLY, I 
DID NOT DIRECT 
THE ELIMINATION 
OR ANY CUTBACK 
IN OVERTIME. 
I DID, HOWEVER, 
SUSPEND THESE 
PRACTICES TO 
REMOVE ANY 
MISPERCEPTIONS 
ABOUT OUR 
COMMITMENT TO 
DELIVERING 
ELECTION MAIL. 
ANY FURTHER 
ASSERTIONS BY 
MEDIA OR ELECTED 
OFFICIALS IS 
FURTHERING A 
FALSE NARRATIVE 
TO THE AMERICAN 
PEOPLE. 
LET ME DESCRIBE 
THE TWO ACTIONS 
I HAVE TAKEN IN 
70 DAYS SINCE MY 
APPOINTMENT. 
I CAME TO THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
WITH DECADES OF 
EXPERIENCE IN 
SOLVING LARGE 
AND COMPLEX 
LOGISTICAL 
PROBLEMS. 
I PLAN TO USE 
THIS EXPERIENCE 
TO HELP LEAD THE 
OPERATING CHANGE 
REQUIRED FOR THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO GROW AND 
EMBARK ON A PATH 
OF 
SUSTAINABILITY. 
ON THE DAY OF MY 
SWEARING-IN, THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
INSPECTOR 
GENERAL ISSUED 
AN ASTONISHING 
REPORT ABOUT THE 
SCHEDULED DELAYS 
IN POSTAL 
SERVICE 
TRANSPORTATION 
AND THE 
SUBSTANTIAL COST 
ASSOCIATED WITH 
OUR WEAKNESSES 
IN THIS 
FUNDAMENTAL 
OPERATING 
PRINCIPLE. 
UPON REVIEW, I 
DIRECTED THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
OPERATIONS TEAM 
TO DEVELOP AND 
EXECUTE ON A 
PLAN TO IMPROVE 
OUR ADHERENCE TO 
THE 
TRANSPORTATION 
SCHEDULE OF OUR 
OVER 40,000 
TRIPS A DAY. 
WE HAVE 
ACCOMPLISHED 
THIS GOAL. 
ON-TIME 
APPROACHES 98% 
AND WASTE OF 
EXTRA TRIPS DOWN 
BY OVER 70%. 
WHILE WE HAVE 
HAD TEMPORARY 
SERVICE 
DECLINED, WHICH 
SHOULD NOT HAVE 
HAPPENED, WE ARE 
FIXING THIS. IN 
FACT, LAST WEEK 
SERVICE IMPROVED 
ACROSS ALL MAJOR 
MAIL AND PACKAGE 
CATEGORIES, AND 
I'M LASER 
FOCUSED ON 
IMPROVING 
SERVICE FOR THE 
AMERICAN PUBLIC. 
THE SECOND OF 
TWO CHANGES I 
MADE AS 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL WAS 
INSTALLING A NEW 
ORGANIZATIONAL 
REPORTING 
STRUCTURE TO 
BETTER ALIGN 
TALENT AND 
RESOURCES TO 
INSTILL GREATER 
ACCOUNTABILITY 
FOR PERFORMANCE 
AND TO FOCUS THE 
ORGANIZATION ON 
SERVICE AND 
GROWTH. THESE 
CHANGES, 
CREATING A NEW 
ON-TIME 
TRANSPORTATION 
NETWORK AND 
DESIGNING AN 
ENGAGE 
FUNCTIONAL 
ORGANIZATIONAL 
STRUCTURE, WILL 
BE THE CATALYST 
FOR SIGNIFICANT 
PERMITS AND 
COST, 
PERFORMANCE AND 
GROWTH THAT I 
PLAN FOR THIS 
VITAL AMERICAN 
INSTITUTION. 
MATTER 
CHAIRWOMAN, THE 
WOMEN AND MEN OF 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE HAVE 
DEMONSTRATED 
EXTRAORDINARY 
COMMITMENT TO 
OUR MISSION OF 
SERVICE 
THROUGHOUT THE 
COVID-19 
PANDEMIC. 
IN EVERY 
COMMUNITY IN 
AMERICA NEW WE 
CONTINUE TO WORK 
TO KEEP OUR 
EMPLOYEES AND 
CUSTOMERS SAVE 
AS WE FULFILL 
OUR ESSENTIAL 
ROLE IN 
DELIVERING THE 
MEDICATIONS, 
BENEFIT CHECKS 
AND FINANCIAL 
STATEMENTS THE 
PUBLIC DEPENDS 
UPON. 
SINCE THE 
BEGINNING OF THE 
PANDEMIC, THERE 
HAS BEEN A 
PUBLIC 
OUTPOURING OF 
SUPPORT FOR OUR 
POSTAL EMPLOYEES 
AS THEY PERFORM 
THEIR ESSENTIAL 
SERVICE 
THROUGHOUT THE 
NATION. 
THIS IS A WELL-
DESERVED 
TESTAMENT TO 
THEIR DEDICATION.
CHAIRWOMAN 
MALONEY, RANKING 
MEMBER COMER, I 
HOPE WE CAN 
AGREE THAT THE 
FINANCIAL STATE 
OF THE FIGHT 
POSTAL SERVICE 
IS UNACCEPTABLE 
AND NEEDS TO BE 
FIXED.  
I LOOK FORWARD 
TO WORKING WITH 
YOU AND THIS 
COMMITTEE AND 
OUR STAKEHOLDERS 
TO RESTORE THE 
FINANCIAL HEALTH 
OF THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
SERVICE AND TO 
IMPROVE THE WAY 
WE SERVE THE 
AMERICAN PUBLIC. 
THIS CONCLUDES 
MY REMARKS. 
I WELCOME ANY 
QUESTIONS THAT 
YOU AND THE 
COMMITTEE MAY 
HAVE. 
THANK YOU. 
>> THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH FOR 
YOUR TESTIMONY. 
WE WILL NOW 
RECOGNIZE 
CHAIRMAN DUNCAN. 
YOU ARE NOW 
RECOGNIZED FOR 
YOUR TESTIMONY. 
HE WILL BE 
APPEARING 
REMOTELY. 
YOU ARE NOW 
RECOGNIZED. 
>> THANK YOU. 
CHAIRWOMAN 
MALONEY, RANKING 
MEMBER COMER AND 
MEMBERS OF THE 
COMMITTEE, THANK 
YOU FOR INVITING 
ME TO SPEAK 
TODAY.  
FOR THE PAST TWO 
YEARS I'VE HAD 
THE HONOR TO 
SERVE AS 
CHAIRMAN OF THE 
UNITED STATES 
POSTAL BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS. 
THROUGHOUT MY 
LIFE I HAVE 
LOOKED AT WAYS 
TO HELP 
STRENGTHEN AND 
SUPPORT 
INSTITUTIONS 
THAT ARE 
IMPORTANT TO THE 
AMERICAN 
COMMUNITIES. 
I SPENT FIVE 
YEARS ON THE 
TENNESSEE VALLEY 
BOARD. 
I SERVED ON 
NUMEROUS BOARDS 
AND COMMISSIONS 
IN KENTUCKY AND 
ON A FEDERAL 
LEVEL. 
WHEN I TOOK THIS 
POSITION, I DID 
SO BECAUSE OF MY 
ASPIRATION FOR 
THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
SERVICE AND HIS 
PUBLIC SERVICE 
MISSION. 
I SPENT MY LIFE 
A RULE 
APPALACHIA. 
I KNOW HOW 
IMPORTANT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
IS TO 
COMMUNITIES LIKE 
MINE. 
ALSO, THE POSTAL 
SERVICE PROVIDES 
IMPORTANT JOBS 
TO MORE THAN 
630,000 AMERICANS
, WHICH AT ONE 
TIME INCLUDED MY 
OWN GRANDFATHER 
WHO DELIVERED 
MAIL BY HORSE 
BACK IN EAST 
TENNESSEE. 
SINCE I JOINED 
THE BOARD, I 
HAVE MADE IT 
IMPORTANT TO 
MEET WORKERS AND 
SPEAK DIRECTLY 
WITH OUR 
CUSTOMERS, UNION 
MEMBERS, UNION 
LEADERS. 
THESE 
CONVERSATIONS 
HAVE DEEPENED MY 
UNDERSTANDING 
FOR AND OF THE 
IMPORTANCE OF 
THE PUBLIC 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
STARTING ON THE 
BOARD OF 
GOVERNORS ON 
THIS INSTITUTION
, I KNOW IT WAS 
A SIGNIFICANT 
RESPONSIBILITY. 
WE REPRESENT THE 
PUBLIC INTEREST. 
THAT MEANS I 
WILL ALWAYS 
REMEMBER THE 
SPECIAL ROLE IN 
OUR NATION. 
IT MEANS I CAN 
NEVER FORGIVE 
THE CHALLENGES 
THAT ARE PUTTING 
US AT RISK. 
THESE CHALLENGES 
SHOULD COME AS 
NO SURPRISE TO 
MEMBERS OF THIS 
BODY. 
ON TWO OCCASIONS 
I HAVE SENT YOU 
THE ANNUAL 
REPORTS OF 
PROGRESS. 
IN THOSE 
COMMUNICATIONS I 
WROTE THAT "THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
BUSINESS MODEL 
IS BROKEN AND 
WILL ALWAYS 
PRODUCE LOSSES 
IN THE COMING 
YEARS WITHOUT 
CHANGE." 
THE POSTMASTER 
GENERAL MEGAN 
BREAK IN AND 
NOTIFY THE BOARD 
OF AN IMPENDING 
RETIREMENT BUT 
THE BOARD 
IMMEDIATELY 
RECOGNIZED WE 
WOULD BE FACED 
WITH THE MOST 
IMPORTANT 
DECISION WE 
WOULD MAKE AS 
GOVERNORS. 
THE SELECTION OF 
THE NEW 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
THE BOARD AGREED 
THAT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE NEEDED A 
TRANSFORMATIONAL 
LEADER, ONE THAT 
CAN HELP US BUILD
AND FAITH LONG-
STANDING 
CHALLENGES. 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IS AN 
AMAZING 
INSTITUTION, AND 
WE CAN DO A LOT 
TO MAKE IT 
BETTER. 
WHAT WE CAN DO 
IS INCREASE OUR 
EFFICIENCY AND 
CUT DOWN ON 
UNNECESSARY 
EXPENSES. WE CAN 
ALSO HELP ON 
MARKETABILITY 
AND MODERNIZATION
WHILE REDUCING 
EXPENSES. 
BUSINESS AS 
USUAL IS NOT AN 
OPTION. 
THE BOARD IS 
ELECTED LOUIS 
DEJOY TO SERVE 
AS POSTMASTER 
GENERAL OF THE 
UNITED STATES. 
HE IS THE FIFTH 
SINCE 1971 TO 
JOIN THE 
INSTITUTION FROM 
THE PRIVATE 
SECTOR. 
WE BELIEVE THE 
PRIVATE SECTOR 
IS AN ASSET. 
IN ADDITION, MR. 
DEJOY HAS 
DECADES OF 
EXPERIENCE WITH 
IMPROVING AND 
MANAGING  
SOPHISTICATED 
LOGISTIC CHANGE. 
FOR MORE THAN 25 
YEARS HE HAS A 
DEEP KNOWLEDGE 
ABOUT THE 
INSTITUTION. 
THE BOARD HAS 
CONFIDENCE IN 
THE ABILITY TO 
PERFORM FOR THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE 
IN THIS ELECTION 
SEASON. 
FIVE YEARS FROM 
NOW THE UNITED 
STATES WILL 
CELEBRATE THE 
250th 
ANNIVERSARY OF 
THE AMERICAN 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
THROUGHOUT OUR 
HISTORY THIS 
INSTITUTION HAS 
DELIVERED TO THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE. 
WE HAVE A SACRED 
RESPONSIBILITY 
TO PRESERVE, 
DEFENDANT 
STRENGTHEN THIS 
ORGANIZATION FOR 
GENERATIONS TO 
COME. 
THANK YOU FOR 
YOUR TIME. 
I APPRECIATE THE 
OPPORTUNITY AND 
LOOK FORWARD TO 
YOUR QUESTIONS. 
>> THANK YOU FOR 
YOUR TESTIMONY. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
MYSELF FOR 
QUESTIONING. 
MR. DEJOY, WE 
HAVE ALL BEEN 
FLOODED  WITH 
CONCERNS AND 
COMPLAINTS FROM 
OUR CONSTITUENTS 
ABOUT THE DELAY 
IN THE MAIL. 
IN THE VOTE ON 
MY BILL 
DELIVERING FOR 
AMERICA ON 
SATURDAY, 26 
REPUBLICANS 
VOTED WITH US, 
AND THEY 
EXPRESSED THE 
SAME CONCERNS. 
PEOPLE DISSENT 
PENNED ON THEIR 
MALE FOR THEIR 
MEDICATIONS, -- 
PEOPLE DEPEND ON 
THEIR MALE FOR 
MEDICATIONS . IT 
IS CRITICALLY 
IMPORTANT. 
WE HAVE SEEN 
HEADLINES ACROSS 
THIS NATION FROM 
MANY STATES, 
MAJOR NEWS FROM 
OUR STATES ABOUT 
THE DELAY IN THE 
MAIL. 
IT HAS BEEN SAID 
IT IS A MAJOR 
INSTITUTION IN 
OUR COUNTRY. 
PEOPLE DEPEND ON 
IT. 
OVER THE WEEKEND 
WE OBTAINED THIS 
INTERNAL DOCUMENT
. IT IS DATED 
LESS THAN TWO 
WEEKS AGO ON 
AUGUST 12. 
IT IS ENTITLED 
SERVICE 
PERFORMANCE 
MEASUREMENT FOR 
THE PMG, 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL BRIEFING.
YOUR OFFICE 
ALREADY CONFIRMED
TO MY OFFICE 
THAT THIS 
DOCUMENT IS 
AUTHENTIC. LET'S 
GO THROUGH A 
LITTLE BIT OF IT 
NOW. 
THIS DOCUMENT 
CLEARLY SHOWS 
MAJOR 
DEGRADATIONS 
ACROSS THE BOARD
, BEGINNING IN 
JULY WHEN YOU 
STARTED YOUR 
CHANGES. HERE IS 
THE DOCUMENT FOR 
FIRST-CLASS MAIL 
AND OVERALL IT 
IS DOWN AN 
ASTONISHING 8% 
FROM THE BASELINE
BEFORE YOUR 
CHANGES FOR THE 
PAST TWO MONTHS. 
BEGINNING IN 
JULY. 
THE SECOND ONE, 
THE NEXT SLIDE, 
IS THE MARKETING 
MAIL. THAT IS 
DOWN A STUNNING 
8.4%. 
NOW, THE NEXT, 
AND IT IS ON THE 
WALL WHERE YOU 
CAN SEE IT 
BETTER, THE NEXT 
PERIODICALS. 
THAT IS DOWN 
ALMOST 10%, DOWN 
9.5%. 
MR. DEJOY, YOU 
AND YOUR AIDES 
HAVE REPEATEDLY  
DOWNPLAYED THESE 
DELAYS. 
YOU JUST 
DOWNPLAYED IT IN 
YOUR TESTIMONY. 
BUT THIS IS JUST 
A DISASTER FOR 
THE PEOPLE WHO 
NEED THEIR MALE. 
DON'T YOU AGREE? 
WOULD YOU TURN 
ON YOUR MIC? 
WE CAN'T HEAR 
YOU. 
>> WE ARE VERY 
CONCERNED WITH 
THE 
DETERIORATION IN 
SERVICE AND ARE 
WORKING VERY 
DILIGENTLY. 
IN FACT, WE ARE 
SEEING A BIG 
RECOVERY THIS 
WEEK. 
IN FACT, THAT 
REPORT, I 
REQUESTED THAT 
REPORT PUT 
TOGETHER. 
ODDLY ENOUGH, WE 
DIDN'T HAVE A 
MEASUREMENT 
BRIEFING AT AN 
EXECUTIVE LEVEL 
LIKE THIS BEFORE 
MY ARRIVAL. 
WHERE THE WHOLE 
EXECUTIVE TEAM 
WAS INVOLVED IN 
LOOKING AT THE 
UNDERLYING 
CIRCUMSTANCES. 
WE ARE FOCUSED 
ON FIXING IT. 
WE HAVE SEEN A 
NICE RECOVERY. 
WE WILL HAVE IT 
BACK -- MY GOAL 
IS TO GET IT, 
YOU KNOW, -- WE 
WERE NOT SEE 
METRICS BEFORE. 
WITH THIS 
FUNDAMENTAL 
CHANGE, WE HAVE 
A REAL GOOD SHOT 
AT GETTING TO 
THE STATED 
METRICS THAT WE 
ARE GOVERNED BY. 
>> YOU JUST 
TESTIFIED THAT 
YOU HAVE BEEN ON 
THE JOB 70 DAYS. 
THIS IS 
ESSENTIALLY YOUR 
REPORT CARD FOR 
THAT PERIOD OF 
TIME. 
IF ANY OTHER CEO 
HAD THIS KIND OF 
PLUMMETING RECORD
IN HIS FIRST TWO 
MONTHS ON THE 
JOB, I CAN'T 
IMAGINE WHY HE 
WOULD BE KEPT ON.
>> THAT IS AN 
UNFAIR 
ACCUSATION. 
>> MAY I 
CONTINUE? 
WHEN YOU 
TESTIFIED ON 
FRIDAY SENATORS 
ASKED YOU OVER 
AND OVER ABOUT 
THE STATUS OF 
THESE DELAYS. 
THEY ALSO ASKED 
YOU TO PRODUCE 
ANALYSIS ABOUT 
THE NEGATIVE 
IMPACTS OF YOUR 
CHANGES. IT 
WOULD HAVE BEEN 
EASY TO MENTION 
TO THE SENATORS 
THAT THIS 
DOCUMENT EXISTED
. YOU COULD HAVE 
SAID, AS A 
MATTER OF FACT 
SENATOR, I JUST 
RECEIVED A 
DETAILED 
BRIEFING, AND 
UNFORTUNATELY, 
THE DATA SHOWS 
MAJOR DELAYS IN 
NEARLY ALL 
CATEGORIES. 
BUT YOU DIDN'T 
DO THAT. 
YOU DISMISSED OF 
THESE NATIONWIDE 
DELAYS AS "A DIP
" AND YOU 
REFUSED TO TURN 
OVER ANY ANALYSIS
. MY QUESTION IS,
WHY DIDN'T YOU 
DISCLOSE THIS 
DOCUMENT AND ANY 
ANALYSIS TO THE 
SENATE WHEN YOU 
HAD IT AND THEY 
WERE ASKING FOR 
IT? 
>> THEY ASKED ME 
FOR IT ON FRIDAY
. THEY ASKED ME 
FOR ANALYSIS OF 
MY DECISION. 
>> OF THE 
DELAYS. 
I WATCHED OF THE 
TESTIMONY. 
>> THERE ARE A 
LOT OF REASONS 
FOR DELAYS 
BESIDES ADJUST 
THE ACTION THAT 
I TOOK TO RUN 
TRUCKS ON TIME. 
THERE ARE OTHER 
REASONS FOR THE 
DELAYS IN THE 
NATION. 
>> I WOULD SAY 
RUNNING TRUCKS 
ON TIME WOULD 
PROBABLY 
INCREASE 
DELIVERY, BUT 
FOR SOME REASON 
IMPACTED UP 5 TO 
6 DAYS IN THE 
DISTRICT THAT I 
REPRESENT. 
ON AUGUST 14 
THIS COMMITTEE 
SENT TO A 10 
PAGE LETTER 
ALONG WITH THE 
CHAIRS AND 
RANKING MEMBERS 
OF THREE OTHER 
COMMITTEES, AND 
WE ASKED YOU TO 
PRODUCE ALL 
COMMUNICATIONS 
WORK ON QUOTING 
FROM THE LETTER, 
ALL 
COMMUNICATIONS, 
EVALUATIONS, 
ASSESSMENTS OR 
REPORTS REGARDING
MAIL LEFT BEHIND 
OR DELAYED AS A 
RESULT OF THESE 
NEW POLICIES 
THAT YOU 
INSTITUTED.
,
DOCUMENTS TO US, 
BUT YOU DID NOT 
PRODUCE THIS 
ONE. 
AND SO MY PR
QUESTION IS WHY 
DID YOU LEAVE 
THIS IMPORTANT 
INTERNAL 
DOCUMENT FROM 
THE POSTAL 
PROFESSIONALS 
THAT WAS 
DELIVERED TO YOU 
AND BRIEFED TO 
YOU TWO DAYS 
BEFORE THE 
SENATE HEARING? 
WHY DID YOU, WHY 
DID YOU LEAVE IT 
OUT? 
>> I'M NOT 
FAMILIAR WITH 
THE REQUEST IN 
TOTAL OR HOW WE 
SUPPORTED IT. 
I'M SURE THE 
STAFF ANSWERED 
THE QUESTIONS AS 
THEY WERE ASKED. 
LET ME FOR THE 
RECORD CLEAR UP, 
THAT IS 
NOT A 
POLICY CHANGE. 
THAT IS A 
REQUEST THAT WE  
RUN OUR 40,000 
TRUCKS A DAY ON 
SCHEDULE AND 
YOUR INTUITION 
IS RIGHT. 
YOU WOULD THINK 
THAT THE MAIL 
MOVED FASTER AND 
IT DID, A GOOD 
PORTION OF IT 
MOVED FASTER. 
WE'RE SITTING 
THERE LOOKING AT 
A REPORT THAT 
TALKS SOMEWHERE 
BETWEEN 1 
BILLION AND $3 
BILLION WORTH OF 
ON T WASTED 
OUR TETRUCK TRIPS 
BEING OUT OF 
SCHEDULE. 
IT WAS AN EASY 
REQUEST THAT I 
SPOKE WITH ISSUE 
IN THE 
ORGANIZATION. 
>> MY TIME IS 
LIMITED AND THEN 
I'M CONCERNED 
WHY WE DIDN'T 
RECEIVE ANY OF 
THIS INFORMATION WE
AND I HAVE TO 
JUST SAY THAT WE 
SENT OUR LETTER 
TWO DAYS AFTER 
YOU RECEIVED 
THIS BRIEFING 
AND THIS 
DOCUMENT. 
IT MUST HAVE 
BEEN FRESH ON 
YOUR MIND. 
THERE'S NO 
EXCUSE FOR 
CONCEALING THIS 
AND WITHHOLDING 
THIS INFORMATION 
FROM THE 
COMMITTEE OR 
FROM YOUR 
TESTIMONY BEFORE 
THE SENATE WHEN 
YOU WERE 
EXPRESSLY ASKED 
QUESTIONS ABOUT 
THE INFORMATION 
IN THE DOCUMENT. 
URN FORTUNATELY 
THIS COMMITTEE 
RECEIVED IT FROM 
SOMEONE ELSE. 
SO MR. DEJOY, 
YOU'RE 
WITHHOLDING 
INFORMATION FROM 
US, CONCEALING 
DOCUMENTS AND 
DOWN PLAYING THE 
DAMAGE YOU'RE 
CAUSING. 
LET ME CLOSE 
WITH THIS. 
THIS COMMITTEE 
EXPECTS A FULL 
AND COMPLETE 
PRODUCTION OF 
ALL THE 
DOCUMENTS WE 
REQUESTED L NO 
LATER ON THIS 
COMING 
WEDNESDAY. 
AND IF YOU 
CONTINUE TO 
WITHHOLD 
INFORMATION OR 
OTHERWISE FAIL 
TO COMPLY YOU 
CAN EXPECT A 
SUBPOENA. 
I KNOW MANY OF 
OUR MEMBERED 
INTO ASK OUHOW YOU 
PLAN TO FIX THE 
PROBLEMS WITHIN 
WE WILL GET TO 
THOSE QUESTIONS 
NEXT. 
WITH THAT I NOW 
RECOGNIZE THE 
DISTINGUISHED 
RANKING MEMBER 
FOR HEFIVE MINUTE, 
FOR HIS 
QUESTIONS. 
VIRGINIA FOXX R 
WILL BE THE 
FIRST TO 
RESPOND. 
VIRGINIA FOXX 
FROM THE GREAT 
STATE OF NORTH 
CAROLINA. 
>> THANK YOU, 
MADAM CHAIRMAN. 
I DO NOTE THAT 
YOU'RE GOING 
OVER TIME A 
GREAT DEAL. 
POSTMASTER DE
GENERAL DEJOY, 
THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH FOR BEING 
WITH US TODAY. 
SOME CLAIM THE 
AFTERNOON 
SOARATION PILOT 
AND YOUR CHANGES 
ARE DELIBERATING %
EFFORTS TO SLOW 
DOWN MAIL AND 
HURT POSTAL 
SERVICE 
EMPLOYEES. 
IS THAT TRUE? 
>> NO, MA'AM. 
>> ARE YOU 
BANNING 
EMPLOYEES FROM 
CHARGING 
OVERTIME OR ARE 
YOU TRYING TO 
LIMIT UNPLANNED 
OVERTIME TO 
ENSURE THE 
POSTAL SERVICE'S 
VIABILITY? 
>> AT THIS POINT 
NO AND NO VI%TIME 
SINCE I'VE BEEN 
HERE. 
>> THANK YOU. 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL DEJOY, 
AS A LOGISTICS 
EXPERTS, AND I 
BELIEVE 
REPRESENTATIVE 
WALKER OUTLINED 
YOUR EXPERTISE 
VERY WELL. 
WHAT DOES TITHE 
CONSISTENT USE 
OF UNPLANNED 
OVERTIME AND SEA 
NEED FOR EXTRA 
TRIPS MEAN IN 
TERMS OF THE 
EFFICIENCY OF 
OPERATIONS? 
>> WELL, BESIDES 
COSTING 
SUBSTANTIAL 
AMOUNTS OF 
MONEY, YOU KNOW, 
FOR THE POSTAL 
SERVICE IN IT 
TERMS OF 
BILLIONS OF 
DOLLARS IT ALSO 
DOES NOT KEEP 
THE DELIVERY 
SYSTEM IN 
BALANCE WHICH 
ALSO RESULTS IN 
DELAYS IN MAIL 
AND E QUILLISH' 
YUM IN 
PRODUCTION 
PROCESSES ACROSS 
THE NETWORK. 
>> CAN MORE 
EFFICIENT ON 
TIME OPERATIONS 
RESULT IN BETTER 
DELIVERY 
PERFORMANCE? 
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
>> DOES 
UNPLANNED VE
OVERTIME HINDER  
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE'S 
ABILITY TO STAY 
FINANCIALLY 
VIABLE? 
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
>> YOU KNOW, MY 
HUSBAND AND ? I 
HAVE EXPERIENCED 
SOME VERY, VERY 
INEFFICIENT 
SERVICES ON THE 
PART OF THE POST 
OFFICE IN THE 
LAST FEW WEEKS. 
I'M NOT STGOING TO 
GO INTO THOSE 
DETAILS. 
I WANT TO 
APPLAUD YOUR 
APPROACH TO 
ACCOUNTABILITY 
AND WHAT WE KNOW 
FROM OUR %
COLLEAGUES ON 
THE OTHER SIDE 
OF THE AISLE IS 
THEY RUN AWAY 
FROM 
ACCOUNTABILITY 
IN EVERY CASE IN 
THE FEDERAL OM
GOVERNMENT OR IN %
ALLIED SERVICES 
LIKE THE POST 
OFFICE. 
SO LET ME 
APPLAUD YOU FOR 
PUSHING ON 
ACCOUNTABILITY. 
MR. DEJOY, THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
IS NOT . %A 
GOVERNMENT 
AGENCY THAT 
RECEIVES 
APPROPRIATIONS. 
IN FACT, IT IS 
LAW THE POSTAL 
REORGANIZATION 
ACT OF 1970 
CREATED THE U.S. 
POSTAL SERVICE 
AS AN 
INDEPENDENT AND 
SELF-SUSTAINING 
ENTITY. 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL DEJOY, 
DO YOU BELIEVE 
IT IS YOUR DUTY TI%
TO UPHOLD THIS 
LAW AND ENSURE 
THAT THE USPS IS 
SELF-SUFFICIENT? 
>> I DO. 
>> AND WHAT WILL 
IT TAKE TO MAKE 
THE USPS SELF-
SUFFICIENT? 
>> LEGISLATION ? 
WITH REGARD TO 
OUR HEALTHCARE, 
MEDICAID 
INTEGRATION AND 
OUR PENSION 
REFORM. 
FLEXIBILITY FROM 
THE PRC. 
WE'RE IN THE 
14th %FR%YEAR OF A 
TEN YEAR 
ANALYSIS POSTAL 
SERVICE ITSELF E 
IS A LIBRARY OF 
OIG REPORTS 
IDENTIFYING 
FLAWED PRACTICES 
AND BILLIONS AND %
BILLIONS AND 
BILLIONS OF 
DOLLARS OF COST 
WASTE THAT THIS 
COMMITTEE, 
NOBODY SEEMS TO 
PAY ATTENTION 
TO. 
AND THEN OUR 
POSTAL SERVICE, 
OUR MANAGEMENT 
TEAM ITSELF, 
HELPING FIX ME
OURSELVES IN 
TERMS OF SERVICE 
AND COST. 
WE HAVE A PLAN 
NOW TO DO THAT 
AND PART IT HAVE 
INCLUDES RUNNING 
OUR TRUCKS ON 
TIME. 
>> AND THESE OIG 
REPORTS HAVE 
COME FROM 
DEMOCRAT 
PRESIDENTS AND 
REPUBLICAN AT A
ADMINISTRATIONS 
BOTH, IS THAT 
CORRECT? 
>> YES, MA'AM. 
>> THANK YOU. 
>> IF >>YOU HAVE 
NO OPERATIONAL 
FLEXIBILITY, CAN 
YOU POSSIBLY 
MAKE THE POSTAL 
SERVICE SELF-
SUFFICIENT. 
>> I THINK WE 
HAVE A  PVERY, 
VERY GOOD SHOT. 
WE HAVE SOME NEW 
REVENUE IDEAS 
FOR THE POSTAL 
SERVICE ALSO.
>> I BELIEVE IN 
THE SIX DAY 
DELIVERY. 
I THINK THE 
CARRIER IS, THE 
CARRIERS, POSTAL 
CARRIERS 
RELATIONSHIP 
WITH THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE 
IS WHAT BRINGS 
THE MOST 
IMPORTANT 
INGREDIENT AND 
THE APPROVAL 
RATING WE HAVE. 
WE HAVE PLANS 
TO, TO REALLY 
ENHANCE THAT 
RELATIONSHIP AND 
TO HELP OUR 
GROWTH.
>> THANK YOU AND 
RANKING MEMBER. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> THANK YOU. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
CONGRESSWOMAN 
NORTON. 
CONGRESSWOMAN 
NORTON BY WEB X. 
>> THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH MADAM 
CHAIR. 
THIS HEARING IS 
VERY NECESSARY 
TO CLARIFY 
MATTERS THAT 
WERE LEFT OPEN 
WHEN WE TOOK THE 
VOTE ALREADY ON 
THIS BILL. 
MR. DEJOY, AND 
BEFORE TESTIMONY 
YOU SUGGESTED D 
THAT THE 
CORONAVIRUS WAS 
HAVING, AND HERE 
I'M QUOTING, A 
SIGNIFICANT, A 
SIGNIFICANT 
ISSUE IN 
EMPLOYEE 
AVAILABILITY IN 
PARTS OF THE 
COUNTRY. 
%
COUNTRY. ,
ONE OF THE ITEMS 
UNDER 
CONSIDERATION 
WHEN YOU HAVE 
ALREADY 
ANNOUNCED YOU 
WOULD BRING 
QUOTE, 
ADDITIONAL 
RESOURCES TO 
BEAR.
>> THE 650,000 
MEN AND WOMEN OF 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE ARE VERY 
COMMITTED TO 
HAVING A 
SUCCESSFUL 
ELECTION IN OUR 
ROLE IN 
ELECTION. 
OVERTIME, EXTRA 
TRUCK TRIPS, 
POSTAL 
INSPECTION 
CHECKS, ROUNDS 
IN EACH POSTAL 
PROCESSING. 
>> THAT'S VERY 
IMPORTANT FOR 
THE RECORD THAT 
EXPANDED 
OVERTIME WILL BE 
ALLOWED IN THE 
TWO WEEKS BEFORE 
THE ELECTION. 
MY NEXT QUESTION 
IS ON A, POSTAL 
SERVICE DOCUMENT 
WE RECEIVED THIS 
IS WHAT I SAID. 
I'M QUOTING NOW 
THE DOCUMENT 
EXPECTATIONS AND 
PLANS. 
OVERTIME WILL BE 
ELIMINATED. 
THERE YOU SEE IT 
BEFORE YOU. 
WE ARE PAYING 
TOO MUCH FOR 
OVERTIME AND IT 
IS NOT COST 
EFFECTIVE. 
MORE TO COME ON 
THIS. 
WE ASKED YOUR 
GENERAL COUNSEL 
AND HE CLAIMED 
THAT THAT CAME 
FROM A MID LEVEL 
MANAGER AND 
SHOULD NOT BE 
TREATED AS AN 
OFFICIAL 
STATEMENT OF 
POSTAL OFFICE 
POLICY SO I ASK 
YOU, WOULD A 
POSTAL MANAGER 
SENT THIS 
DOCUMENT WITHOUT 
SOME KIND OF 
WORD FROM YOU OR 
FROM THE TOP OF 
THE AGENCY? 
AND CAN YOU 
EXPLAIN WHO THIS 
WAS AND GIVE US 
AN -- 
>> THANK YOU. 
I HAVE PURPOSELY 
NOT TRIED TO 
FIND OUT WHO 
THAT WAS BUT 
THERE ARE MANY 
WAYS THAT PEOPLE 
INTERPRET. 
>> TRIED NOT TO 
FIND OUT WHO 
THAT WAS? 
>> THAT'S RIGHT. 
I DON'T KNOW. 
THAT WAS NOT A 
DIRECTIVE FROM 
ME. 
THERE IS, 
THERE'S 50,000 
MANAGERS WITHIN 
THE 
ORGANIZATION. 
THIS IS ONE OF 
THE REASONS I 
CHANGED THE 
ORGANIZATION 
QUICKLY AFTER 
THE ROLLOUT OF 
THE TRUCK 
SCHEDULE. 
>> SO ARE YOU 
LOOKING FOR 
WHOEVER IT IS -- 
ISSUING THAT TO 
ALL YOUR 
EMPLOYEES? 
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
>> I WISH YOU 
WOULD GIVE THAT 
NAME WHEN YOU 
FIND IT TO THE 
CHAIR AS WELL. 
IN A STATEMENT 
ON AUGUST 18th, 
YOU STATED 
OVERTIME HAS AND 
WILL CONTINUE TO 
BE APPROVED AS 
NEEDED. 
I WANT TO 
UNDERSTAND AS 
NEEDED WHAT THAT 
MEANS. 
CAN POSTAL 
MANAGERS AND 
EMPLOYEES 
CONTINUE 
APPROVING AND 
USING OVERTIME 
AS THEY DID 
BEFORE YOUR 
TENURE BEGAN OR 
ARE THERE ANY 
CHANGES SINCE 
YOU TOOK OFFICE? 
>> SAME AS SOME 
PRIOR TO ME 
BEING HERE. 
>> HAVE YOU 
ISSUED ANY 
INTERNAL 
GUIDANCE TO THAT 
EFFECT AND WOULD 
YOU PROVIDE IT 
TO US PLEASE? 
>> I'M SORRY, I 
DIDN'T HEAR THE 
QUESTION. 
>> HAVE YOU 
ISSUED ANY 
INTERNAL 
GUIDANCE TO THAT 
EFFECT 
CONTINUING TO 
APPROVE AND USE 
OVERTIME? 
>> I NEVER 
ISSUED A 
GUIDANCE AGAINST 
THAT EFFECT. 
>> WELL WE'RE 
ASKING ARE YOU 
INTENDING TO 
ISSUE ANY 
GUIDANCE TO THE 
EFFECT? 
>> YES, I'VE 
TOLD THE 
EXECUTIVE TEAM, 
THE OPERATIONS 
TEAM, THEY KNOW 
THERE IS NO 
DIFFERENT 
PROCESS THAN 
PRIOR TO MY 
ARRIVAL. 
>> OKAY, THE 
GENTLEWOMAN'S 
TIME IS 
COMPLETED. 
>> MADAM CHAIR 
CAN I JUST ASK 
HE PROVIDE US, 
PROVIDE YOU ANY 
WRITTEN GUIDANCE 
ON OVERTIME. 
>> OKAY. 
>> TIME. 
>> I MAKE NOTE 
OF THAT REQUEST 
ON BEHALF OF THE 
COMMITTEE. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
MR. GOSAR. 
>> YEAH, CAN YOU 
HEAR ME AND SEE 
ME? 
>> YES, WE CAN. 
>> OKAY. 
THANK YOU. 
>> WE CAN HEAR 
YOU. 
WE CAN'T SEE 
YOU. 
THERE YOU ARE. 
>> OKAY. 
MR. DEJOY. 
THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH FOR COMING 
TODAY AND I WANT 
TO CLEAR UP SOME 
OBVIOUS 
POLITICAL 
DISINFORMATION 
THAT THE 
MAJORITY IS 
PUTTING OUT. 
THEN I WANT TO 
SAY THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH FOR 
ACKNOWLEDGMENT 
THE DIP IN 
SERVICES. 
WE'LL GET TO 
THAT IN A FEW 
MINUTES. 
ON SATURDAY OUT 
ON THE HOUSE 
FLOOR MY 
COLLEAGUES SAID 
THE POST OFFICE 
WAS ON THE VERGE 
OF COLLAPSE. 
YOU HAVE OVER 
$10 BILLION CASH 
ON HAND AND 
ACCESS TO A $10 
BILLION LINE OF 
CREDIT WHICH 
MAKES YOU 
FISCALLY VIABLE 
THROUGH AUGUST 
2021. 
IS THAT TRUE? 
>> YES, BUT I 
WOULD SAY THAT 
ONLY IN 
WASHINGTON, D.C. 
WOULD THAT BE A 
GOOD POSITION TO 
BE IN WHEN I 
HAVE $135 
BILLION IN 
LIABILITIES AND 
$2.5 BILLION A 
MONTH, A WEEK, 
BIWEEKLY PAYROLL 
AND A WHOLE 
BUNCH OF OTHERS 
BUT YES, WE CAN 
GET THROUGH THE 
ELECTION AND 
WITH THE LOAN 
SHOULD WE TAKE 
IT. 
I DON'T KNOW HOW 
WE WOULD PAY IT 
BACK BUT SHOULD 
WE TAKE IT WE 
SHOULD BE FINE 
UNTIL MID 21. 
>> SO NOW ISN'T 
IT TRUE THAT 
YOU'RE ACTUALLY 
GENERATING MORE 
REVENUE AT THIS 
TIME OF THE YEAR 
THAN YOU ALSO 
DID LAST YEAR 
AND YOU'RE 
PROCESSING MORE 
SUCCESSFULLY 
PROCESSED AN UP 
TICK IN MASS 
MAIL GOVERNMENT 
ITEMS SUCH AS 
STIMULUS CHECKS. 
>> WE'RE SEEING 
MORE REVENUE, 
MOSTLY DUE TO 
PACKAGE 
INCREASE, MAIL 
PRODUCTS ARE 
DOWN 15%. 
OR SO ON 
AVERAGE. 
BUT PACKAGE 
VOLUME IS UP 
SUBSTANTIALLY. 
PACKAGE VOLUME 
IS VERY COSTLY 
FOR US TO HANDLE 
IN OVER CAPACITY 
METHOD. 
>> SO NOW DO YOU 
BELIEVE THAT THE 
MONEY ON HAND 
SUCCESSFUL, THAT 
YOU SAID THE 
MAIL VOLUME IS 
DOWN BY 15% AND 
THE HARD WORK OF 
THE OVER 600,000 
POSTAL WORKERS 
THAT YOU CAN 
HANDLE THE 
ELECTION 
INCREASES YOU 
WILL POSSIBLY 
SEE? 
>> I WILL BE 
VERY, VERY CLEAR 
THAT THE 650,000 
MEN AND WOMEN. 
WE ARE WORKING 
WITH OUR UNION 
LEADERSHIP, 
MANAGEMENT TEAM, 
EMPLOYEES, WE 
WILL BE ABLE TO 
HANDLE ALL 
ELECTION MAIL 
FOR THE 2020 
ELECTION. 
>> SO NOW I WANT 
TO GO BACK TO 
THE SLOWDOWN 
RELATED TO THE 
PANDEMIC. 
I WANT TO 
HIGHLIGHT THIS 
WEEK THE 
PRESIDENT OF THE 
PHOENIX POSTAL 
WORKERS UNION 
STATED SUFFERING 
FROM THESE 
PANDEMIC WORK 
FORCE STRAINS. 
NO PROCESSING 
MACHINES HAVE 
BEEN REMOVED 
DURING YOUR 
TENURE AND THE 
USE OF THE 
UNITED STATES 
POSTAL SERVICE 
PROCESS OVER 
700,000 BALLOTS 
IN OUR RECENT 
PRIMARY 
ELECTION. 
LET ME ASK YOU A 
QUESTION. 
HAVE YOU HAD 
SLOWDOWNS OR 
IMPEDIMENTS LIKE 
IN SEATTLE AND 
PORTLAND AND NEW 
YORK CITY AND 
CHICAGO BECAUSE 
OF THE RIOTING 
AND THE ANARCHY 
GOING ON? 
>> WELL, SIR, I 
MEAN ANY KIND OF 
RIOTING DOES 
PRODUCE DELAYS 
WITH ANY TYPE OF 
PUBLIC SERVICE 
SO I DON'T HAVE 
A SPECIFIC 
MEASUREMENT ON 
THAT. 
BUT I WILL SAY 
THIS THAT AS THE 
CORONAVIRUS 
CASES THROUGHOUT 
THE COUNTRY HAVE 
EXPANDED IT HAS 
HAD AN IMPACT ON 
OUR EMPLOYEE 
AVAILABILITY AND 
THE URBAN AREAS 
THAT ARE HOT 
SPOTS ARE, YOU 
KNOW THE 
AVERAGES IS 
DON'T PLAY OUT 
WHAT THE REAL 
PICTURE IS LIKE 
IN AREAS LIKE 
PHILADELPHIA 
WHERE EMPLOYEE 
AVAILABILITY IS 
SIGNIFICANTLY 
BELOW OUR NORMAL 
RUN RATES AND 
WHAT IT HAS BEEN 
IN THE PANDEMIC. 
WE ACTUALLY 
PEAKED, STARTED 
TO PIQUE IN 
TERMS OF 
AVAILABILITY 
ISSUES IN THE 
JULY TIME FRAME. 
>> I WANT TO GO 
BACK TO THIS. 
POLICY POLICY 
CHANGES TO THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
ELIMINATION OF 
OVERTIME, 
PROHIBITING 
EXTRA TRIPS, 
REMOVING, IS 
THAT TRUE? 
>> THE EXTRA 
TRIPS AND THEY 
WEREN'T 
PROHIBITED. 
IT'S TRUE ON 
EVERYTHING ELSE 
BUT THE EXTRA 
TRIPS. 
MY DIRECTION WAS 
WE NEED TO WORK 
ON GETTING OUR 
TRUCKS ON 
SCHEDULE AND 
MITIGATING OUR 
EXTRA TRIPS. 
WE STILL RUN 7, 
800 EXTRA TRIP 
AS DAY AND WE 
STILL HAVE 
THOUSANDS OF 
TRUCK TRIPS THAT 
RUN LATE. 
IT WASN'T A FLAT 
DIRECTIVE. 
IT WAS WORK TO 
OUR PLAN. 
COME UP WITH A 
PLAN TO WORK 
THROUGH OUR 
PLAN. 
THE MANAGEMENT 
TEAM PUT THE 
PLAN TOGETHER 
AND EXECUTED ON 
THE PLAN. 
AND, SO 
EVERYTHING ELSE 
I HAD NOTHING TO 
DO WITH. 
IT WAS A LONG 
STANDING PLAN ON 
COLLECTION BOXES 
AND SORTING 
MACHINES AND 
POSTAL HOURS. 
REALLY IN THE 
AREAS THEY WERE 
TAKING CARE OF 
THAT. 
>> SO ANOTHER 
QUICK QUESTION, 
IS THE PONY 
EXPRESS STILL 
AVAILABLE TODAY? 
>> I'VE BEEN 
HERE 70 DAYS, 
SIR. 
I'M SEARCHING 
FOR THE GOOD. 
I HAVEN'T SEEN 
THAT YET, NO. 
I THINK IT'S 
GONE. 
>> TECHNOLOGY 
HAS THIS, IT 
CHANGES AND ANY 
TRANSFER OF NEW 
IDEAS DOESN'T 
ALWAYS GO 
SMOOTHLY, DOES 
IT? 
>> I'M SORRY?
>> IT 
TRANSITIONS 
DON'T ALWAYS GO 
SMOOTHLY, YOU 
SHOULD HAVE A 
RECOVERY 
PROCESS. 
OUR RECOVERY 
PROCESS IS 
TAKING TOO LONG. 
THIS SHOULD HAVE 
BEEN RESOLVED IN 
A FEW DAYS AND 
IT'S NOT. 
SO THE IMPACT IS 
A LOT OF 
REASONS, A LOT 
OF THINGS THAT 
ARE IMPACTING 
OUR SERVICE. 
THIS IS ONE OF 
THEM ON THE 
FRONT END AND WE 
SHOULD HAVE 
CLEARED IT UP 
QUICKER AND I 
THINK WE HAVE 
THE FOCUS ON IT 
NOW AND IT'LL 
RECOVER QUITE 
RAPIDLY GOING 
FORWARD. 
>> THANK YOU. 
THE CHAIR NOW 
RECOGNIZES  MR. 
CLAY. 
>> THANK YOU FOR 
HAVING THIS 
HEARING. 
MR. DEJOY, ONE 
OF THE MOST 
DAMAGING RESULTS 
OF YOUR ACTIONS 
IS THE REPORTS 
WE HAVE HEARD 
OVER AND OVER 
AGAIN FROM 
PEOPLE AND 
FAMILIES THE 
COUNTRY WHO ARE 
NOT GETTING 
THEIR MAIL AND 
MEDICATIONS ON 
TIME.
EACH YEAR. 
THAT IS MILLIONS 
OF SHIPMENTS PER 
DAY. 
SIX DAY AS WEEK.
>> WE'RE HAVING 
A TECHNICAL 
PROBLEM RIGHT 
NOW WITH MR. 
CLAY. 
WE CAN'T HEAR 
YOU. 
IT'S BREAKING UP.
>> SHOULD WE GO 
FOR IT OR NOT? 
>> THIS PROBLEM 
HAS GOTTEN 
AGGRAVATED 
DURING THE 
CORONAVIRUS 
CRISIS BECAUSE 
MAIL ORDER. 
>> MADAM CHAIR. 
>> MR. CLAY, 
WE'RE GOING TO 
HOLD UP ON YOU 
AND GO TO MR. 
LYNCH AND THEN 
GO TO A 
REPUBLICAN AND 
THEN GO TO YOU. 
CONGRESSMAN 
LYNCH YOU ARE 
NOW RECOGNIZED. 
>> THANK YOU, 
MADAM CHAIR. 
THANK YOU MR. 
MANY DEJOY FOR 
ATTENDING. 
MR. DEJOY, 
YOU'VE BEEN THE 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL OF THE 
UNITED STATES 
FOR A COUPLE OF 
MONTHS RIGHT 
YOU? 
>> 70 DAYS. 
>> 70 DAYS. 
OKAY. 
SO I'VE BEEN A 
MEMBER OF THIS 
COMMITTEE FOR 
ABOUT 20 YEARS 
AND SINCE MY MOM 
AND TWO OF MY 
SISTERS, BUNCH 
OF MY AUNTS, 
COUSINS, IN LAWS 
ALL WORK AT THE 
POST OFFICE, 
SOME OF THEM ARE 
RETIRED, SOME OF 
THEM ARE STILL 
THERE. 
AS A MEMBER OF 
CONGRESS YOU 
MIGHT SAY I'VE 
BEEN COMPELLED 
TO TAKE A KEEN 
INTEREST ON 
MATTERS 
AFFECTING THE 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
I'M ALSO A 
FORMER PRESIDENT 
OF THE IRON 
WORKERS UNION IN 
BOSTON SO YOU 
CAN GET A SENSE 
OF MY 
PERSPECTIVE. 
IT'S BLUE 
COLLAR, YOU 
KNOW, COMMON 
SENSE, GET YOUR 
WORK DONE SORT 
OF PERSPECTIVE. 
SO MR. DEJOY, AS 
THE POSTMASTER 
OF THE UNITED 
STATES OF 
AMERICA FOR THE 
LAST 70 DAYS, 
DID YOU KNOW 
THAT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE HAS 
NEVER ALLOWED 
ITSELF TO BE IN 
A SITUATION THAT 
IT'S IN TODAY? 
THROUGHOUT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
HISTORY THERE'S 
BEEN A TRADITION 
OF RELIABLE 
DELIVERY FROM 
THE VERY 
BEGINNING OUT OF 
ARTICLE 1, 
SECTION 8 OF THE 
CONSTITUTION. 
GOING BACK TO 
BEN FRANKLIN. 
THE PONY EXPRESS 
HAS BEEN 
MENTIONED 
BEFORE. 
I WAS ACTUALLY 
WATCHING A KEN 
BURNS SPECIAL 
LAST WEEK AND HE 
HAD THESE HEART 
WRENCHING 
LETTERS THAT 
WERE BACK AND 
FORTH FROM 
SOLDIERS DURING 
THE CIVIL WAR SO 
EVEN AT A MOMENT 
WHEN THE COUNTRY 
WAS AT WAR WITH 
ITSELF THE MAIL 
WAS DELIVERED. 
DURING THE FIRST 
WORLD WAR AND 
THE SPANISH FLU 
OF 1918, THROUGH 
THE GREAT 
DEPRESSION, 
MILLIONS OF 
PEOPLE OUT OF 
WORK. 
A THOUSAND BANK 
FAILURES. 
THE MAIL WAS 
DELIVERED ON 
TIME. 
EVEN WITH THE 
SECOND WORLD 
WAR. 
INTERNATIONAL 
MAIL WAS 
DELIVERED ON 
TIME. 
JUST SO HAPPENS 
I WAS ELECTED ON 
9/11, DAY OF THE 
TERRORIST 
ATTACKS ON OUR 
NATION. 
A GOD AWFUL DAY. 
SOME PEOPLE 
FORGET IN THE 
DAYS AFTER 9/11 
WE HAD DIRECT 
ANTHRAX ATTACKS 
ON THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
SERVICE. 
WE LOST TWO 
BRAVE POSTAL 
WORKERS DOWN 
ANOTHER THE 
BRENTWOOD 
FACILITY IN DC 
FROM ANTHRAX 
INHALATION. 
FOR THE GOOD OF 
THE COUNTRY THE 
POSTAL UNIONS 
CONTINUE TO SEND 
THEIR MEMBERS 
INTO THE POST 
OFFICE TO DO 
THEIR JOB TO 
KEEP THE COUNTRY 
RUNNING. 
SO TWO WEEKS AGO 
AFTER YOU'D BEEN 
POSTMASTER JUST 
A FEW WEEKS THAT 
ALL CHANGED. 
IN THE MIDDLE OF 
A PANDEMIC THAT 
HAS KILLED 
170,000 
AMERICANS AND ON 
THE EVE OF A 
NATIONAL 
ELECTION AT A 
TIME WHEN THE 
CDC IS ADVISING 
PEOPLE NOT TO 
GATHER, LIMIT 
OUTSIDE CONTACT 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE STARTED 
REMOVING 671 
HIGH SPEED MAIL 
SORTING MACHINES 
ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY. 
YOU STOPPED THE 
APWU FROM 
SORTING THE MAIL 
AND YOU STOPPED 
THE NATIONAL 
LETTER CARRIERS 
AND HANDLERS TO 
WORK OVERTIME TO 
DELIVER THE 
MAIL. 
FOR THE FIRST 
TIME IN 240 
YEARS IN OUR 
HISTORY OF THE 
UNITED STATES 
POSTAL SERVICE 
YOU SENT OUT A 
LETTER 
EMBARRASSINGLY 
IN JULY TO 46 
STATES THAT SAY 
THE POST OFFICE 
CAN'T GUARANTEE 
THAT WE CAN 
DELIVER THE MAIL 
IN TIME FOR THE 
ELECTIONS IN 
NOVEMBER. 
WE HAVE REPORTS 
FROM ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY AS YOU 
ACKNOWLEDGE 
SERVICE HAS BEEN 
DELAYED AND THE 
MAIL IS PILING 
UP. 
YOU HAVE ENDED A 
ONCE PROUD 
TRADITION. 
FLOW AS A MEMBER 
OF THE OVERSIGHT 
COMMITTEE WE 
HAVE A CHIEF 
INVESTIGATIVE 
COMMITTEE IN THE 
CONGRESS. 
WE CONDUCT 
OVERSIGHT ON 
EVERY MATTER 
THAT IMPACTS THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE 
FOREIGN AND 
DOMESTIC. 
THERE ARE 
MEMBERS ON THIS 
COMMITTEE WHO 
HAVE BEEN TO 
IRAQ AND 
AFGHANISTAN A 
COUPLE DOZEN 
TIMES. 
THEY'VE BEEN TO 
YEMEN, SOMALIA, 
GAZA, YOU NAME 
IT. 
THEY LITERALLY 
GO TO THE ENDS 
OF THE EARTH TO 
INVESTIGATE 
MATTERS THAT 
AFFECT THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE, 
ESPECIALLY WHEN 
IT INVOLVES OUR 
SONS AND 
DAUGHTERS IN 
UNIFORM. 
IN THIS MOMENT 
IT IS OUR POSTAL 
WORKERS WHO 
HAPPEN TO BE OUR 
MEN AND WOMEN IN 
UNIFORM. 
THEY ARE ON THE 
FRONT LINES OF 
THIS PANDEMIC. 
THROUGHOUT THIS 
PANDEMIC THEY'VE 
RISKED THEIR OWN 
HEALTH AND 
SAFETY TO 
DELIVER OR TRY 
TO DELIVER MAIL, 
MEDICINES AND 
MAIL-IN BALLOTS 
TO EVERY 
AMERICAN HOME 
AND BUSINESS SIX 
DAY AS WEEK. 
AS A MEMBER OF 
THIS COMMITTEE 
I'M SUPPOSED TO 
ASK YOU A 
QUESTION. 
I'M TEMPTED TO 
ASK AFTER 240 
YEARS OF 
PATRIOTIC 
SERVICE 
DELIVERING THE 
MAIL HOW CAN ONE 
PERSON SCREW 
THIS UP IN JUST 
A FEW WEEKS. 
NOW I UNDERSTAND 
YOU BRING 
PRIVATE SECTOR 
EXPERTISE. 
I GUESS WE 
COULDN'T FIND A 
GOVERNMENT 
WORKER WHO COULD 
SCREW IT UP THIS 
FAST. 
IT WOULD TAKE 
THEM A WHILE. 
THE PRESIDENT IS 
RUNNING THIS 
POST OFFICE LIKE 
A BUSINESS, LIKE 
HE SAID. 
HE'S RUNNING IT 
INTO THE GROUND 
AS HE HAS 
DECLARED 
BANKRUPTCY A FEW 
TIMES ON HIS OWN 
BUSINESSES. 
AND IN AN EFFORT 
TO APPLY THE 
FACTS, THE REAL 
FACTS, NOT THE 
ALTERNATIVE 
FACTS BASED ON 
WHAT YOU HAVE 
ACTUALLY DONE, 
ONE CAN ONLY 
REACH AS A FACT 
FINDER WE CAN 
ONLY REACH TWO 
CONCLUSIONS. 
ONE, EITHER 
THROUGH GROSS 
INCOMPETENCE YOU 
HAVE ENDED THE 
240 YEAR HISTORY 
OF DELIVERING 
THE MAIL 
RELIABLY ON TIME 
OR THE SECOND 
CONCLUSION THAT 
WE COULD GATHER 
IS THAT YOU'RE 
DOING THIS ON 
PURPOSE. 
AND THAT YOU'RE 
DELIBERATELY 
DISMANTLING THIS 
ONCE PROUD 
TRADITION. 
>> THE 
GENTLEMAN'S TIME 
IS EXPIRED. 
THE GENTLEMAN 
MAY ANSWER A 
QUESTION. 
>> MY LAST 
QUESTION IS 
THIS. 
>> THANK YOU, 
SENATOR. 
>> WHAT THE HECK 
ARE YOU DOING? 
WHAT THE HECK 
ARE YOU DOING? 
THAT'S MY 
QUESTION. 
>> THANK YOU, 
SIR. 
>> THE 
GENTLEMAN'S TIME 
HAS EXPIRED. 
>> I WOULD LIKE 
TO AGREE WITH 
YOU ON THE 
HEROIC EFFORTS 
OF OUR 650,000 
EMPLOYEES ACROSS 
THE NATION AND 
THE HISTORY OF 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE FOR 
THEIR, THE 250 
YEAR HISTORY OF 
SERVING THE 
AMERICAN PUBLIC. 
>> WILL YOU PUT 
THE MACHINES 
BACK? 
>> I'M PROUD TO 
LEAD TO THE 
ORGANIZATION. 
THE REST OF YOUR 
ACCUSATIONS. 
>> WILL YOU PUT 
THE MACHINES 
BACK? 
>> NO,LY NOT. 
>> YOU WILL NOT. 
>> WILL NOT. 
>> YOU WILL NOT. 
WELL THERE YOU 
GO. 
>> THERE I GO 
WHAT? 
>> MADAM CHAIR. 
>> ORDER, ORDER. 
THE GENTLEMAN 
MAY ANSWER THE 
QUESTION WITHOUT 
BEING 
INTERRUPTED. 
THE QUESTION IS 
MR. YOU PUT THE 
MACHINES BACK. 
>> THE ANSWER IS 
NO AND EVERY 
ACCUSATION YOU 
MADE OTHER THAN 
THE TRUCKS, 
ADHERE TO THE 
TRUCK SCHEDULE 
IS INACCURATE 
AND MORE 
MISINFORMATION. 
>> YOU WON'T PUT 
THE MACHINES 
BACK. 
YOU TOOK THEM 
OUT. 
>> MADAM CHAIR. 
MADAM CHAIR. 
>> MR. JORDAN IS 
NOW RECOGNIZED. 
CONGRESSMAN 
JORDAN. 
IS HE HERE? 
>> I BELIEVE 
THAT'S NOT THE 
ORDER. 
>> WHAT? 
>> NO, IT'S 
PALMER. 
CONGRESSMAN 
PALMER. 
I'M GETTING 
DIFFERENT SIGNS 
UP HERE. 
KEEPS CHANGING. 
CONGRESSMAN 
PALMER IS NOW 
RECOGNIZED. 
>> I THINK THE 
CHAIRMAN AND I 
JUST WANT TO 
POINT OUT A 
WASHINGTON POST 
ARTICLE FROM 
AUGUST 26, 2015 
ALMOST FIVE 
YEARS TO THE DAY 
THAT THERE WAS A 
DECLINE IN FIRST 
CLASS LETTER 
DELIVERLY OF 18 
TO 44% AND A 38% 
DECLINE IN THE 
PERFORMANCE OVER 
THE SAME TIME IN 
2014. 
THIS WAS DURING 
THE OBAMA-BIDEN 
ADMINISTRATION. 
THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
OFFICE IN 2012 
STARTED CLOSING 
DOZENS OF MAIL 
SORTING 
FACILITIES FROM 
JANUARY TO JUNE 
OF 2015 THERE 
WERE 494 MILLION 
PIECES OF MAIL 
THAT DID NOT 
ARRIVE ON TIME. 
A 48% INCREASE 
IN DELAYED MAIL 
DELIVERY AND I'M 
SURE THAT THAT 
WAS INTENDED TO 
IMPACT THE 2012 
ELECTION. 
YET THIS 
COMMITTEE DIDN'T 
SEE FIT TO LOOK 
INTO THAT. 
MR. DEJOY, THESE 
WILL BE YES AND 
NO FOR THE MOST 
PART. 
IS THERE ANY WAY 
THE POST OFFICE 
CAN KNOW WHETHER 
OR NOT BALLOTS 
THAT THEY ARE 
DELIVERING TO 
HOUSEHOLDS ARE 
TO ELIGIBLE 
VOTERS? 
ANY WAY FOR THE 
POST OFFICE TO 
KNOW THAT? 
>> NO, SIR. 
>> I BRING THAT 
UP BECAUSE 
THERE'S ANALYSIS 
OF DATA RELEASED 
BY THE U.S. 
ELECTION 
ASSISTANCE 
COMMISSION IN 
2019 AND A 
RECENT U.S. 
CENSUS BUREAU'S 
FIVE YEAR 
AMERICAN 
COMMUNITY SURVEY 
THERE WAS 378 
COUNTIES 
NATIONWIDE THAT 
HAVE MORE VOTER 
REGISTRATIONS 
THAN CITIZENS 
LIVING THERE OLD 
ENOUGH TO VOTE. 
THESE ARE 
COUNTIES WHERE 
THE REGISTRATION 
EXCEEDS 100%. 
THERE ARE AT 
LEAST 18,658 
EXTRA VOTERS. 
UNDER THE 
NATIONAL VOTER 
REGISTRATION ACT 
OF 1993, 
JUDICIAL WATCH 
SENT NOTICE OF 
VIOLATION 
LETTERS TO 19 
LARGE COUNTIES 
IN FIVE STATES. 
CALIFORNIA, 
PENNSYLVANIA, 
NORTH CAROLINA, 
VIRGINIA AND 
COLORADO. 
REAL CLEAR 
POLITICS 
REPORTED THAT 
LOS ANGELES 
COUNTY HAD AN 
ESTIMATED 1.6 
MILLION 
INELIGIBLE 
VOTERS AND 38 
STATES HAVE 
COUNTIES WHERE 
THE VOTER 
REGISTRATION IS 
OVER 100%. 
INCLUDING 
MONTGOMERY 
COUNTY, MARYLAND 
WHICH 
REPRESENTED MY 
DISTINGUISHED 
FRIEND. 
THE SAME ARTICLE 
CITED A 2012 PEW 
STUDY THAT FOUND 
THERE ARE 24 
MILLION VOTER 
REGISTRATIONS NO 
LONGER VALID OR 
SIGNIFICANTLY 
INACCURATE. 
1.8MILLION DEAD 
PEOPLE AND 
ANOTHER 2.75 
MILLION IN AT 
LEAST TWO 
STATES. 
NEW YORK FOR 
INSTANCE IN THIS 
MOST RECENT 
PRIMARY THAT 
IMPACTED YOUR 
RACE HAD 84,000 
BALLOTS, ALMOST 
A FIFTH OF ALL 
THE, OVER A 
FIFTH OF ALL THE 
BALLOTS I THINK 
CAST. 
12,000 IN YOUR 
RACE THAT WERE 
DISQUALIFIED. 
SO MY QUESTION 
TO YOU, MR. 
DEJOY. 
IS THERE ANY WAY 
TO BE SURE THAT 
MORE BALLOTS 
THAN A HOUSEHOLD 
SHOULD BE 
ELIGIBLE TO 
RECEIVE ARE NOT 
BEING DELIVERED? 
>> I'M SORRY, 
SAY THAT AGAIN? 
>> IS THERE ANY 
WAY FOR THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO DETERMINE 
WHETHER OR NOT A 
HOUSEHOLD IS 
GETTING MORE 
BALLOTS THAN 
THEY SHOULD BE? 
>> WE'RE FOCUSED 
ON DELIVERING 
THE MAIL. 
>> SO THE ANSWER 
IS NO THERE'S NO 
WAY TO KNOW 
THAT. 
AND IF THERE WAS 
A WAY TO KNOW 
THAT I'M SURE 
THE POSTAL 
INSPECTORS WOULD 
GIVE OFF. 
>> LET'S TRY 
THAT AGAIN. 
ONCE IT CALLED 
YOU IT TELLS 
YOU. 
>> MADAM 
CHAIRMAN. 
I RESERVE MY 
TIME.
,
>> HAVE WE 
RESTORED THIS? 
>> THEY'RE 
TRYING TO DEAL 
WITH TECHNICAL. 
WE'LL GIVE YOU 
EXTRA TIME. 
>> YOU HAVE 
EXTRA TIME. 
WE HAVE SOME 
TECHNICAL 
PROBLEMS. 
>> THANK YOU. 
I DO APPRECIATE 
YOUR INDULGENCE. 
THANK YOU. 
THE CENSUS 
BUREAU REPORTS 
11% OF AMERICANS 
MOVE EACH YEAR. 
VOTER 
REGISTRATION ACT 
PASSED IN 1993 
SIGNED BY 
PRESIDENT 
CLINTON AND 
VOTED FOR BY MR. 
COOPER AND MR. 
CLAY AND MADAM 
CHAIRMAN MALONEY 
REQUIRES STATES 
TO PERFORM VOTER 
REGISTRATION 
MAINTENANCE. 
IT IS REALLY THE 
RESPONSIBILITY 
OF THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO 
MAKE SURE THE 
STATES AND LOCAL 
GOVERNMENTS MAKE 
SURE THEIR VOTER 
ROLLS ARE 
ACCURATE AND 
THEY HAVE 
REMOVED DECEASED 
PEOPLE AND IT 
SHOULD BE NOTED 
THAT THE OBAMA-
BIDEN 
ADMINISTRATION 
DID NOT BRING A 
SINGLE SECTION 8 
ENFORCEMENT 
ACTION DURING 
THEIR ENTIRE 
TERM. 
THAT MAKES THE 
POST OFFICE TASK 
OF ONLY 
DELIVERING 
BALLOTS TO 
ELIGIBLE VOTERS 
MORE DIFFICULT. 
MY POINT IS IS 
THAT YOU HAVE 
BEEN ACCUSED OF 
TRYING TO IMPACT 
AN ELECTION WHEN 
THE FACT OF THE 
MATTER IS FOR 
THESE THOSE 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
NEVER HAD A REAL 
JOB OUT OF 
BUSINESS. 
WHAT YOU'VE BEEN 
TRYING TO DO IS 
IMPROVE THE 
PERFORMANCE OF 
THE POST OFFICE 
SO WHAT HAPPENED 
IN 2015 DOES NOT 
CONTINUE TO 
HAPPEN. 
AND IT'S GOING, 
AND THE 
ACCUSATIONS ARE 
THAT YOU'RE 
TRYING TO THROW 
THE ELECTION 
WHEN THE FACT OF 
THE MATTER IS 
THE FACT THAT 
THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT HAS 
NOT DONE ITS 
PART, 
PARTICULARLY 
DURING THE OBAMA-
BIDEN 
ADMINISTRATION 
TO ENSURE THE 
VOTER ROLLS ARE 
ACCURATE HAS 
MADE YOUR JOB 
MORE DIFFICULT. 
IT'S REALLY NOT 
YOUR JOB, IS IT? 
ONE WAY OR THE 
OTHER. 
>> NO, SIR. 
>> CAN WE COUNT 
ON THE POST 
OFFICE AND 
DELIVERY 
PERSONNEL TO NOT 
DELIVER MASS 
BALLOTS? 
STACKS OF 
BALLOTS TO AN 
ADDRESS WHERE 
THE DELIVERY 
PERSON KNOWS 
THERE'S NOBODY 
THERE, AN 
ABANDONED HOUSE, 
AN ABANDONED 
APARTMENT 
COMPLEX, A 
BUSINESS? 
WOULD THAT, THAT 
WOULD BE 
REPORTED, 
WOULDN'T IT? 
>> WE DELIVER 
MAIL TO THE 
ADDRESS 
SPECIFIED. 
>> AND IF 
DOZENSOVER 
HUNDREDS OF MAIL 
IN BALLOTS ARE 
DUMPED INTO BLUE 
MAILBOXES 
INSTEAD OF LEFT 
IN A REGULAR, 
WOULD IT MAKE 
SENSE TO REPORT 
TO THE POSTAL 
INSPECTORS TO 
MAKE SURE THOSE 
BALLOTS ARE 
LEGITIMATE? 
>> THERE ARE 
PROCESSES THE 
POSTAL 
INSPECTORS 
DEPLOY. 
I'M NOT FULLY 
AWARE OF WHAT 
THEY ARE RIGHT 
NOW, BUT THERE 
ARE PROCESSES 
THAT THE POSTAL 
INSPECTORS 
DEPLOY TO 
IDENTIFY ANY 
FRAUDULENT TYPE 
OF ACTIVITY 
WITHIN THE MAIL 
SYSTEM. 
>> WE NEED TO 
MAKE SURE THIS 
ELECTION IS NOT 
TAINTED BY 
FRAUDULENT MAIL-
IN BALLOTS. 
I'M GOING TO DO 
SOMETHING THAT I 
RARELY DO. 
WHEN MR. GOSAR 
MENTIONED THE 
RIOTS IN 
PORTLAND AND 
OTHER, SEATTLE 
AND OTHER PLACES 
AROUND THE 
COUNTRY, THERE 
WAS A CHUCKLE 
FROM ONE OF THE 
DEMOCRATS ON 
THIS COMMITTEE 
AND I TAKE 
OFFENSE AT THAT. 
POST OFFICE IN 
MINNEAPOLIS. 
THERE WAS MAIL 
IN THAT POST 
OFFICE THAT WAS 
LOST. 
THERE MAY HAVE 
BEEN 
PRESCRIPTION 
DRUGS THAT WERE 
LOST. 
THERE MAY HAVE 
BEEN SOCIAL 
SECURITY CHECKS 
IN THAT OFFICE 
THAT WERE LOST. 
IT IS A FACT 
THAT NOT ONLY IS 
THE MAIL 
DELIVERY DELAYED 
WHEN YOU HAVE 
ANARCHISTS 
LAYING SIEGE TO 
CITIES ALL OVER 
THE COUNTRY. 
IT ENDANGERS 
POSTAL WORKERS. 
DELIVERY PEOPLE. 
IT MAY HAVE 
ENDANGERED 
PEOPLES LIVES 
WHO WERE NOT 
ABLE TO GET 
THEIR MEDICINE 
BECAUSE IT 
BURNED UP IN THE 
MINNEAPOLIS POST 
OFFICE. 
THAT'S NOT 
FUNNY. 
AND I HOPE THAT 
THE DEMOCRATS IN 
THIS COMMITTEE 
AND IN THIS 
CONGRESS WILL 
TAKE SERIOUSLY 
WHAT'S HAPPENING 
IN AMERICAN 
CITIES. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> WE'RE STILL 
HAVING 
DIFFICULTLY 
CONNECTING WITH 
CONGRESSMAN 
CLAY. 
I NOW RECOGNIZE 
MR. COOPER. 
CONGRESSMAN 
COOPER. 
>> MR. DEJOY, 
HERE'S WHAT YOUR 
SO-CALLED 
REFORMS HAVE 
DONE TO MY 
DISTRICT IN 70 
DAYS. 
A LADY NAMED E 
ELANA ROSIER 
PAID $5 TO SEND 
A CERTIFIED 
LETTER TO THE 
NASHVILLE, 
TENNESSEE SOCIAL 
SECURITY OFFICE. 
A DISTANCE OF 20 
MILES. 
THE LETTER TOOK 
12 DAYS TO 
ARRIVE. 
JUST THIS 
MORNING 
EXCELLENT 
REPORTING FROM 
NASHVILLE'S 
CHANNEL 5 TV 
PROVES THAT 
NASHVILLE'S MAIL 
TRUCKS ARE BEING 
FORCED TO LEAVE 
ON SCHEDULE EVEN 
WHEN COMPLETELY 
EMPTY. 
IMAGINE IT. 
53-FOOT TRUCKS 
FORCED TO TRAVEL 
HUNDREDS OF 
MILES COMPLETELY 
EMPTY DUE TO 
YOUR SO-CALLED 
REFORMS. 
HERE ARE THE 
TRUCK RECORDS. 
THAT'S NOT 
EFFICIENCY. 
THAT'S INSANITY. 
FOR ANYONE 
THINKING OF 
VOTING ABSENTEE, 
THE EFFECT OF 
YOUR POLICIES IS 
TO YUAN 
LATERALLY MOVE 
UP ELECTION DAY 
FROM NOVEMBER 
3rd TO SOMETHING 
LIKE OCTOBER 
27th. 
GO IF YOU FORCE 
MORE EMPTY 
TRUCKS ON THE 
HIGHWAY, YOU 
WILL BE ABLE TO 
SINGLE HANDEDLY 
MOVE UP ELECTION 
DAY EVEN 
EARLIER. 
ACCORDING TO THE 
NPR ALREADY 
550,000 PRIMARY 
BALLOTS, 
ABSENTEE BALLOTS 
WERE EJECTED IN 
JUST 30 STATES 
AND ONE OF THE 
MAIN REASONS WAS 
LATE DELIVERLY. 
HOW DARE YOU 
DISENFRANCHISE 
SO MANY VOTERS 
WHEN YOU TOLD A 
SENATE COMMITTEE 
JUST LAST WEEK 
YOU HAD A SACRED 
DUTY TO PROTECT 
ELECTION MAIL. 
JEAN IT'S A 
FELONY FOR 
POSTAL SERVICE 
OFFICER OR 
EMPLOYEE TO 
DELAY DELIVERY 
OF MAIL. 
A POSTAL 
EMPLOYEE CAN BE 
FINED OR 
IMPRISONED UP TO 
FIVE YEARS FOR 
DELAYING THE 
MAIL BUT SOMEHOW 
YOU CAN DELAY 
ALL THE MAIL AND 
GET AWAY WITH 
IT? 
THEY CAN BE 
PROSECUTED BE 
YOU YOU CAN'T? 
EVEN IF YOUR 
ACTIONS ARE A 
MILLION TIMES 
WORSE. 
MR. DEJOY, DO 
YOU HAVE A DUTY 
TO OBEY U.S. LAW 
LIKE EVERY OTHER 
AMERICAN? 
>> I DO, SIR. 
>> WELL, 
PREVIOUS 
POSTMASTERS 
GENERAL HAVE 
BEEN PUNISHED 
FOR SMALLER 
CONFLICTS OF 
INTEREST THAN 
YOURS. 
IN 1997 THE 70th 
MOST POSTMASTER 
GENERAL OF 
TENNESSEE HAD TO 
PAY $27,000 
BECAUSE OF A 
$350,000 
CONFLICT OF 
INTEREST. 
IF YOUR 30 
MILLION CONFLICT 
OF INTEREST, 100 
TIMES LARGER 
WERE TREATED 
LIKE YOUR 
PREDECESSORS, 
YOU WOULD HAVE 
TO PAY A  $2.7 
MILLION FINE AND 
PROBABLY BE 
OUSTED FROM 
BEING POSTMASTER 
GENERAL. 
SO MR. DEJOY, 
ARE YOU ABOVE 
THE LAW THAT 
APPLIES TO OTHER 
POSTMASTERS 
GENERAL? 
>> IM, I DON'T 
AGREE WITH THE 
PREMISE. 
I'M IN FULL 
COMPLIANCE WITH 
ALL ETHICAL 
REQUIREMENTS 
THAT I NEED TO 
HAVE. 
AND THERE'S NO 
IG INVESTIGATION 
AND I WELCOME 
THE RESULT OF 
THAT REPORT. 
>> MR. DEJOY, AS 
A DONOR FOR THE 
TRUMP CAMPAIGN 
YOU WERE PICKED 
ALONG WITH 
MICHAEL COHEN 
AND ELLIOTT 
BRADY, TWO MEN 
WHO HAVE ALREADY 
PLED GUILTY TO 
FELONIES. 
DID YOU PAY BACK 
SEVERAL OF YOUR 
TOP EXECUTIVES 
FOR CONTRIBUTING 
TO TRUMP'S 
CAMPAIGN BY 
BONUSSING OR 
REWARDING THEM? 
>> THAT'S AN 
OUTRAGEOUS 
CLAIM, SIR AND I 
RESENT IT. 
>> I'M JUST 
ASKING A 
QUESTION. 
>> THE ANSWER'S 
NO. 
>> SO YOU DID 
NOT BONUS OR 
REWARD ANY OF 
YOUR EXECUTIVES 
OR ANYONE YOU 
SOLICITED FOR A 
CONTRIBUTION TO 
TRUMP CAMPAIGN? 
>> NO, SIR. 
>> NOT IN WHOLE 
OR IN PART? 
>> ACTUALLY 
DURING THE TRUMP 
CAMPAIGN I 
WASN'T EVEN 
WORKING AT MY 
COMPANY ANY 
MORE. 
>> WELL WE WANT 
TO MAKE SURE 
THAT CAMPAIGN 
CONTRIBUTIONS 
ARE LEGAL SO ALL 
YOUR CAMPAIGN 
CONTRIBUTIONS 
WERE LEGAL? 
>> I'M FULLY 
AWARE OF LEGAL 
CAMPAIGN 
CONTRIBUTIONS. 
I RESENT THE 
ASSERTION. 
WHAT ARE YOU 
ACCUSING ME OF? 
>> I'M ASKING A 
QUESTION. 
DO YOUR MAIL 
DELAYS FIT 
TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN 
GOAL OF HURTING 
THE POST OFFICE 
AS STATED IN HIS 
TWEETS? 
>> I'M NOT GOING 
TO ANSWER THESE 
TYPES OF 
QUESTIONS. 
I'M HERE TO 
REPRESENT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
NOTHING TO DO 
WITH, ALL MY 
ACTIONS HAVE TO 
DO WITH 
IMPROVEMENTS OF 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
AM I THE ONLY 
ONE IN THIS ROOM 
THAT UNDERSTANDS 
THAT WE HAVE $10 
BILLION A YEAR 
LOSS? 
AM I THE ONLY 
ONE IN THIS ROOM 
THAT THE OIG 
REPORT. 
>> MR. DEJOY, IS 
YOUR BACKUP PLAN 
TO BE PARDONED 
LIKE ROGER 
STONE? 
[ LAUGHTER ] 
>> YOU HAVE TWO 
SECONDS TO 
ANSWER THE 
QUESTION. 
>> I HAVE NO 
COMMENT ON THAT. 
>> MY TIME HAS 
EXPIRED. 
>> TIME HAS 
EXPIRED. 
REPRESENTATIVE, 
THE GENTLEMAN 
FROM FLORIDA IS 
RECOGNIZED FOR 
FIVE MINUTES. 
CONGRESSMAN 
STEUBE. 
>> THANK YOU, 
MADAM CHAIR. 
FIRST OF ALL, 
SERVED IN IRAQ 
IN SUPPORT OF 
OPERATION IRAQI 
FREEDOM TO 
COMPARE POSTAL 
WORKERS TO OUR 
MILITARY SERVICE 
MEMBERS QUITE 
FRANKLY TO ME IS 
OFFENSIVE. 
LAST TIME I 
CHECKED POSTAL 
SERVICE DRIVERS 
WEREN'T GETTING 
THEIR VEHICLES 
BLOWN UP BY IEDs 
OR BEING SHOT AT 
AS THEY DROVE 
AROUND AND 
DELIVERED MAIL. 
TO TRY TO 
COMPARE OUR 
MILITARY SERVICE 
MEMBERS WHO 
SACRIFICE ON THE 
BATTLEFIELDS TO 
OUR POSTAL 
SERVICE MEMBERS 
IS FRANKLY 
OFFENSIVE AS A 
PERSON THAT HAS 
SERVED. 
IT'S UNFORTUNATE 
THERE ARE 
DEMOCRATS THAT 
HAVE 100% 
POLITICIZED THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO TRY TO STOKE 
FEAR WITH THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE. 
WE SHOULDN'T BE 
SURPRISED. 
IT'S A FAMILIAR 
THEME FOR 
DEMOCRATS OVER 
THE LAST TWO 
YEARS. 
A SUBCOMMITTEE 
CHAIRMAN OF THIS 
COMMITTEE WHEN 
ASKED ON 
NATIONAL 
TELEVISION AND I 
QUOTE, ARE YOU 
SAYING SAY IT 
DIRECTLY IS THIS 
AN ATTEMPT BY 
THE PRESIDENT 
YOU BELIEVE TO 
INTERFERE IN THE 
ELECTION THE 
ANSWER WAS 
ABSOLUTELY. 
THERE'S 
ABSOLUTELY NO 
EVIDENCE 
WHATSOEVER THAT 
PRESIDENT TRUMP 
IS USING THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO INTERFERE 
WITH THE 
ELECTION. 
NONE, IN FACT, 
QUITE THE 
OPPOSITE. 
BUT DEMOCRATS 
DON'T CARE ABOUT 
THE FACTS. 
SO HERE WE GO 
AGAIN. 
SEEMS LIKE JUST 
YESTERDAY WE 
WERE HEARING HOW 
THE TRUMP 
CAMPAIGN 
COLLUDED AND 
CONSPIRED WITH 
RUSSIA TO 
INTERFERE WITH 
THE LAST 
ELECTION AND 
WHEN THE FACTS 
CAME OUT THERE 
WAS NO EVIDENCE 
THAT THAT EVER 
OCCURRED. 
THIS IS 
ABSOLUTELY A 
CONCOCTED 
NARRATIVE BY THE 
DEMOCRATS TO 
STOKE FEAR IN 
THE AMERICAN 
PEOPLE JUST LIKE 
THE RUSSIA 
COLLUSION HOAX. 
FINANCIAL ISSUES 
HAVE PLAGUED THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
FOR DECADES AND 
IS INST VASTLY 
IN NEED OF 
REFORM. 
MR. DEJOY JUST 
STATED A $10 
BILLION LOSS A 
YEAR. 
BUSINESSES 
COULDN'T OPERATE 
THAT WAY. 
DEMOCRATS DON'T 
WANT REAL 
REFORM. 
IF THEY DID, 
THEY WOULD HAVE 
WORKED WITH 
REPUBLICANS IN 
CRAFTING A BILL. 
THEY WOULD HAVE 
WORKED WITH THE 
ADMINISTRATION 
TO ACTUALLY COME 
UP WITH REFORM 
THAT WOULD 
ACTUALLY PASS. 
THIS IS A 
POLITICAL STUNT 
THE NEWEST 
INTERFERENCE 
HOAX. 
I REPRESENT NINE 
COUNTIES IN 
FLORIDA AND JUST 
LAST WEEK WE 
HELD OUR PRIMARY 
ELECTIONS. 
FLORIDA SAW THE 
LARGEST TURNOUT 
IN A 
PRESIDENTIAL 
ELECTION YEAR 
PRIMARY SINCE 
1992. 
THAT WAS 18 
YEARS. 
ABOUT 2.3 
MILLION MAIL-IN 
BALLOTS WERE 
CAST, WHICH MADE 
UP ABOUT 59% OF 
ALL BALLOTS 
CAST. 
THERE WERE 
MINIMAL ISSUES 
WITH ADDITIONAL 
BALLOTS. 
THERE WERE NO 
ISSUES, IN MY 
NINE COUNTIES 
WITH ABSENTEE 
BALLOTS IN THIS 
DISTRICT THAT 
I'M AWARE OF. 
MR. DEJOY, WOULD 
IT BE FAIR TO 
SAY THAT THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
SUCCESSFULLY 
DELIVERED DURING 
THE FLORIDA 
PRIMARY LAST 
WEEK? 
>> YES, SIR. 
>> THE 2.3 
MILLION MAIL-IN 
BALLOTS CAST IN 
IT FLORIDA ARE A 
SIGNIFICANT 
AMOUNT FOR ONE 
STATE. 
WHAT ARE THE 
FACTORS THAT LED 
TO THE POSTAL 
SERVICE BEING 
ABLE TO DELIVER 
THE SUBSTANTIAL 
INCREASE IN IT 
MAIL-IN BALLOTS 
ON TIME? 
>> WHEN IT COMES 
TO BALLOTS THE 
POSTAL SERVICE, 
PRIOR TO MY 
ARRIVAL AND THE 
HEIGHTENED 
AWARENESS OF 
THIS PARTICULAR 
ELECTION THROWS 
EVERYTHING IT 
HAS AT MOVING 
BALLOTS THROUGH 
THE SYSTEM. 
BALLOTS USUALLY 
IDENTIFY WITH 
SPECIAL MARKINGS 
AND EVERY 
EMPLOYEE IS VERY 
MUCH, AND 
MANAGER IS VERY 
MUCH FOCUSED ON 
MAKING SURE THAT 
BALLOTS MOVE 
QUICKLY THROUGH 
THE PROCESS. 
SOMETIMES IN IT 
ADVANCE OF FIRST 
CLASS MAIL. 
SO THOSE 
PARTICULAR 
PROSES WERE 
DEPLOYED AND 
WILL BE DEPLOYED 
AS WE COME INTO 
THIS 2020 
ELECTION. 
>> FLORIDA HAS, 
AM I CORRECT IN 
STATING FLORIDA 
HAS -- TIME 
FRAME FOR POSTAL 
SERVICE TO 
RETURN THE 
BALLOTS AS 
OPPOSED TO 
STATES THAT JUST 
ALLOW BALLOTS TO 
BE REQUESTED THE 
LAST MINUTE, 
THEREFORE 
DELAYING THEIR 
ABILITY FOR THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
TO GET THOSE 
BALLOTS IN TIME. 
>> THANK YOU. 
THAT IS A BIG 
PART OF THE 
EFFORT OF THE 
POSTAL SERVICE. 
PRIOR TO MY 
ARRIVAL AND 
SINCE MY ARRIVAL 
AND THE PURPOSE 
OF SENDING OUT 
THE LETTERS TO 
ALL THE STATES 
WITH REGARD TO 
WHAT WE JUST 
WANT TO MAKE 
EVERYONE AWARE 
OF WHAT IS THAT 
WILL REALLY 
WORK. 
WE CAN PUT ALL 
THESE ADDITIONAL 
PROCESSES ON BUT 
IT WOULD BE MORE 
HELPFUL IF IT WE 
HAD REASONABLE 
STANDARDS FROM 
THE ELECTION 
BOARDS THAT 
COMPLY WITH OUR 
PROCESSES TO 
ENABLE US TO DO 
IT MORE 
EFFICIENTLY AND 
EFFECTIVELY. 
>> SO TO 
CLARIFY, DO YOU 
NEED ANY 
ADDITIONAL 
FUNDING TO BE 
ABLE TO 
SUCCESSFULLY 
DELIVER BALLOTS 
IN FLORIDA THIS 
NOVEMBER? 
>> NO, WE DO 
NOT, SIR. 
>> ARE THERE ANY 
LESSONS OTHER 
STATE CAN LEARN 
FROM THE WAY 
FLORIDA HANDLES 
OUR BALLOTS AND 
ABSENTEE VOTING? 
>> I'M NOT 
PARTICULARLY 
FAMILIAR WITH 
FLORIDA BUT OUR 
GENERAL COUNSEL 
HAS PUT OUT 
LETTERS WITH 
REGARD TO EACH 
STATE'S ELECTION 
GUIDELINES. 
WE HAVE A 
WEBSITE THAT'S 
JUST BEEN POSTED 
ON NORMAL 
PROCESS AND IN 
GENERAL I WILL 
SAY ON BEHALF OF 
650,000 POSTAL 
WORKERS, GET 
YOUR BALLOT 
EARLY AND PLEASE 
VOTE EARLY AND 
THAT IS JUST 
COMMON SENSE. 
IF FLORIDA HAD 
A, YOU KNOW, 
FLORIDA HAD A 
GOOD PROCESS SO 
I'M SURE THEIR 
ELECTORAL BOARD 
PROCEDURES WERE 
GOOD. 
WE CAN'T DO THIS 
ALL BY 
OURSELVES. 
WE WOULD 
APPRECIATE EVERY 
STATE'S HELP IN 
REVIEWING THEIR 
STANDARDS AND 
TAKING ADVICE OF 
THE POSTAL 
SERVICE GENERAL 
COUNSEL AND 
WHAT'S ON OUR 
WEBSITE. 
>> THANK YOU. 
THE GENTLEMAN'S 
TIME IS EXPIRED. 
WE NOW RECOGNIZE 
MR. CLAY IF 
WE'RE STILL 
HAVING 
CONNECTION 
PROBLEMS WE WILL 
BE GOING TO MR. 
CONNOLLY. 
MR. CLAY. 
>> HI, MADAM 
CHAIR. 
HOPE YOU CAN 
HEAR ME NOW. 
>> YES, WE CAN. 
>> ALL RIGHT. 
LET ME, AND 
THANK YOU FOR 
CONDUCTING THIS 
HEARING. 
MR. DEJOY, LET 
ME START WITH A 
QUESTION. 
BEFORE YOU 
IMPLEMENTED YOUR 
CHANGES, DID YOU 
CONDUCT ANY 
ANALYSIS OF THE 
AFFECT YOUR 
CHANGES WOULD 
HAVE ON DELAYING 
PRESCRIPTION 
DRUG SHIPMENTS? 
THE DELIVERY OF 
THOSE SHIPMENTS 
TO YOUR 
CUSTOMERS? 
DID YOU ANALYZE 
THAT BEFORE YOU 
IMPLEMENTED 
THESE CHANGES? 
>> SIR, WE HAVE 
A WHOLE 
OPERATING 
ORGANIZATION 
THAT I ASKED TO 
PUT TOGETHER A 
PLAN AND IT 
WASN'T A CHANGE, 
IT WAS COMPLY 
WITH YOUR 
SCHEDULES AND 
WHEN WE COULD 
COMPLY WITH OUR 
SCHEDULES. 
REREVIEWED THIS 
WITH EVERY 
REGIONAL AREA VP 
ON A DISCUSSION 
THAT THEY WERE 
READY AND THEY 
ROLLED IT OUT. 
I'M NOT THE COO. 
I'M THE CEO OF 
THE ORGANIZATION 
BUT I RECEIVED 
COMMITMENT THAT 
WE WOULD BE ABLE 
TO ROLL FORWARD 
WITH THE PLAN TO 
COMMITTING TO 
OUR EXISTING 
SCHEDULE. 
>> OKAY, MR. 
DEJOY. 
LET ME SAY THIS. 
PRIORITIZING ON 
TIME TRUCK 
DEPARTURES MEANS 
LETTER CARRIERS 
LEAVE WITHOUT 
ALL OF THEIR 
PACKAGES. 
INCLUDING 
MEDICINE ON 
BOARD. 
CRITICAL 
MEDICINES LIKE 
REFRIGERATED 
INSULIN IS 
REPORTEDLY 
SITTING IN 
SORTING 
FACILITIES DAYS 
LONGER THAN 
EXPECTED. 
DID YOU EXAMINE 
THE EFFECT OF 
YOUR CHANGES ON 
MEDICINES LIKE 
INSULIN THAT 
REQUIRE SPECIAL 
STORAGE? 
>> SIR, AT NO 
TIME DID I SAY 
DON'T PUT THE 
MAIL ON THE 
TRUCKS WHEN THEY 
LEFT ON TIME. 
THIS WAS NOT A 
HARD DIRECT 
EVERYTHING MUST 
LEAVE ON TIME. 
WE STILL HAVE 
THOUSANDS OF 
TRUCKS A DAY 
THAT LEAVE LATE 
WITHIN, WITHIN, 
YOU KNOW, A 
CERTAIN TIME 
FRAME. 
SO THE WHOLE, 
AND THERE ARE 
STILL HUNDREDS 
OF EXTRA TRIPS.
THE INTENTION 
WAS TO PUT THE 
MAIL ON THE 
TRUCKS AND HAVE 
THE TRUCKS LEAVE 
ON TIME. 
THAT SHOULD NOT 
HAVE IMPACTED 
ANYBODY. 
>> WHAT ABOUT 
THE IMPACT, MR. 
DEJOY, WHAT 
ABOUT THE IMPACT 
OF LETTING, OF 
HAVING IT SIT ON 
THE FLOOR 
SOMEWHERE AND IT 
MAY SPOIL OR 
WHATEVER. 
AT LEAST WE KNOW 
IT WILL BE 
DELAYED. 
DID YOU ALL GIVE 
THAT ANY 
CONSIDERATION? 
>> WE'RE 
CONCERNED ABOUT 
THE IMPACT THAT 
EACH INDIVIDUAL 
ACROSS THE 
COUNTRY AND 
WE'RE WORKING 
EXTREMELY HARD 
TO BRING THE 
SERVICE LEVELS 
BACK TO WHERE 
THEY WERE AND TO 
EXCEED THAT. 
WE WILL BE THERE 
SHORTLY. 
>> MR. DEJOY, WE 
WOULD LIKE A 
COPY OF ANY AND 
ALL ANALYSIS YOU 
CONDUCTED BEFORE 
YOU IMPLEMENTED 
YOUR CHANGES. 
WILL YOU PROVIDE 
THEM TO THIS 
COMMITTEE? 
>> I WILL GO 
BACK TO THE 
OFFICE AND SEE 
WHAT THE 
OPERATING TEAM 
HAS ON THAT AND 
WE'LL SEEK TO DO 
SO. 
>> AND WHILE 
YOU'RE AT IT, 
MR. DEJOY, DO 
YOU HAVE ANY 
INFORMATION ON 
THE NUMBER OF 
PRESCRIPTION 
DRUG SHIPMENTS 
THAT THE POSTAL 
SERVICE HAS 
DELIVERED LATE 
SINCE YOU BEGAN 
IMPLEMENTING 
THESE CHANGES 
AND WILL YOU 
PROVIDE THAT 
INFORMATION TO 
THE COMMITTEE BY 
THE END OF THE 
WEEK? 
CAN YOU. 
>> I'M NOT AWARE 
OF WHAT WE HAVE 
ON SPECIFIC 
TYPES OF 
SHIPMENT. 
I'M SURE WE HAVE 
SOME. 
I WILL TAKE A 
LOOK AT IT. 
AGAIN, I WANT TO 
REMIND YOU THAT 
THE CHANGES IS 
MISLEADING AND 
WHAT I ASK IS 
THAT THE TEAM 
FIND A WAY TO 
RUN THE TRUCKS 
ON THE SCHEDULE. 
THE INTENTION 
WAS WE PUT THE 
MAIL ON THE 
TRUCKS WHEN WE 
RAN THEM ON 
SCHEDULE.
>> MADAM 
CHAIRWOMAN, 
COULD I JUST ASK 
YOU. 
MR. LYNCH ASKED 
ME TO ENTER INTO 
THE RECORD SET 
OF DATA FROM THE 
AMERICAN POSTAL 
WORKERS UNION 
WITH RESPECT TO 
MAIL VOLUME AND 
THE REDUCTION IN 
ADVANCE, 
DELIVERY BAR 
CODE SORTERS, 
AUTOMATED FLAT 
SORTING MACHINE, 
HUNDREDS AND 
FLAT SEQUENCING 
SYSTEMS IN ITS 
MAIL PROCESSING 
FACILITIES. 
>> WITHOUT 
OBJECTION. 
>> I THANK THE 
CHAIR. 
>> MR. NORMAN 
FROM SOUTH 
CAROLINA IS NOW 
RECOGNIZED. 
MR. NORMAN. 
>> THANK YOU. 
MR. DEJOY, I 
JUST WANT TO 
APOLOGIZE TO 
YOU. 
YOU'RE GETTING A 
BERATING UP 
HERE. 
CONGRESSMAN 
LYNCH GOING INTO 
A FIVE MINUTE 
DIALOGUE WOULD 
NOT GIVE YOU 
DIME TO ANSWER 
YOUR QUESTIONS. 
WAS YELLING OVER 
YOU. 
IT'S TYPICAL HOW 
THIS HEARING HAS 
GONE AND WHAT'S 
AMAZING TO ME IS 
THIS BILL HAD TO 
BE RUSHED OUT 
THIS PAST 
SATURDAY. 
DO YOU KNOW THAT 
67 MEMBERS DID 
NOT EVEN TAKE 
THE TIME TO SHOW 
UP? 
IF YOUR WORKERS 
DON'T SHOW UP, 
WHAT HAPPENS? 
THEY DON'T GET A 
PAYCHECK AND THE 
MAIL DOESN'T GET 
DELIVERY. 
IT'S AN INSULT 
TO WHAT THE 
DEMOCRATS ARE 
TRYING TO DO. 
A FALSE 
NARRATIVE THAT 
HAS NOT WORKED 
FOR THEM SINCE 
THIS PRESIDENT 
WAS ELECTED. 
THE MUELLER 
REPORT. 
THE IMPEACHMENT. 
NONE OF IT'S 
WORKING. 
NOW THEY'RE 
GOING FISHING 
FOR THIS. 
I APOLOGIZE TO 
YOU. 
LET ME GET SOME 
YES OR NO  
ANSWERS. 
ARE YOU AND THE 
POSTAL SERVICE 
ACTIVELY 
REMOVING 
MAILBOXES AT THE 
BEHEST OF 
PRESIDENT TRUMP 
TO UNDERMINE THE 
ELECTION OR HAS 
PRESIDENT OBAMA 
SAID KNEECAP THE 
POSTAL SERVICE? 
>> NO, SIR. 
>> WAS IT U.S. 
POSAL SERVICE 
GOING TO BE 
INSOL GENT 
BEFORE THE 
ELECTION IF YOU 
DID NOT RECEIVE 
THE $25 BILLION 
THAT DEMOCRATS 
INZITSED IN IT 
INCLUDING IN 
THEIR BILL? 
>> NO, SIR. 
>> IS THE UNITED 
STATES POSTAL 
SERVICE EQUIPPED 
TO HANDLE VOTING 
BY MAIL FOR THE 
NOVEMBER 
ELECTION? 
>> YES, SIR. 
>> ARE YOU 
UNLOCKING BLUE 
BOXES TO STOP 
THE MAIL? 
>> ANYTHING WITH 
BLUE BOXES HAS 
STOPPED. 
NO, SIR. 
>> CONGRESSMAN 
PALMER SHOWED 
PICTURES OF THE 
BURNED OUT 
MAILBOXES. 
AND THE CITIES 
ON FIRE. 
PORTLAND, 
CHICAGO, 
MINNEAPOLIS, 
SACRAMENTO, NEW 
YORK, WOULD THAT 
KIND OF SLOW THE 
POST OFFICE 
DELIVERY DOWN? 
>> THERE ARE 
CERTAIN ACTIONS 
AND PROCEDURES 
THAT WE HAVE FOR 
SITUATIONS FOR 
PUBLIC UNREST 
THAT WE DEPLOY. 
A VARIETY OF 
DIFFERENT THINGS 
UP TO AND 
INCLUDING 
GETTING OUR 
COLLECTION BOXES 
OUT OF THERE 
WHEN IT HAPPENS. 
BUT I DON'T KNOW 
ALL OF 
EVERYTHING THAT 
GOES WITH THAT. 
BUT YES, IT 
WOULD SLOW DOWN 
THE MAIL. 
>> IT'D SLOW IT 
DOWN AND THE 
SAFETY OF THE 
DELIVERING THE 
PERSON 
DELIVERING THE 
MAIL IS PRETTY 
MUCH AN ISSUE 
NOW. 
>> I'M SORRY? 
>> THE, THE 
PERSON 
DELIVERING MAIL 
AND THE BURNED 
OUT CITIES WOULD 
KIND OF BE A 
PROBLEM, 
WOULDN'T IT? 
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
OUR LETTER 
CARRIERS HAVE 
HAZARDOUS JOBS 
IN MANY CASES. 
>> WERE YOU 
CONSULTED ON 
THIS ALL 
IMPORTANT BILL 
WE HAD TO TAKE 
UP THIS PAST 
SATURDAY?
>> I THINK OUR 
LEGISLATIVE 
AFFAIRS PEOPLE 
HAD SOME 
INTERACTION TO 
COMMENT ON IT. 
>> YOU MADE A 
GOOD STATEMENT. 
YOU'RE NOT THE 
CHIEF OPERATING 
OFFICE. 
YOU'RE THE CEO. 
YOU'VE BEEN ON 
THE JOB 70 DAYS. 
TO BE ACCUSED OF 
EVERYTHING 
YOU'VE BEEN 
ACCUSED OF IS 
SIMPLY NOT 
RIGHT. 
IT'S UNFAIR. 
I'M GLAD THE 
AMERICAN PEOPLE 
ARE GETTING A 
FRONT ROW SEAT 
TO WHAT YOU'RE 
HAVING TO 
ENDURE. 
I YIELD BACK. 
>> GENTLEMAN 
YIELDS BACK. 
MR. CONNOLLY IS 
NOW RECOGNIZED. 
>> MY, MY, MY, 
YOU'RE RIGHT. 
YOU'VE BEEN ON 
THE JOB 70 DAYS 
AND YOU'VE 
CAUSED THIS MUCH 
RUCKUS. 
AND BELIEVE IT 
OR NOT THAT'S 
CALLED 
ACCOUNTABILITY. 
THAT'S WHY HE'S 
HERE TODAY. 
THAT'S WHY WE 
PASSED THE BILL. 
IF HE WASN'T 
CONSULTED IT'S 
BECAUSE HE WAS 
THE INSPIRATION 
OF THE BILL. 
DUBIOUS 
DISTINCTION 
NONETHELESS. 
MR. DEJOY, WHEN 
DID YOU TAKE 
OFFICE? 
YOU WERE IN 
OFFICE IN MAY 
BUT WHEN DID YOU 
ACTUALLY TAKE 
OVER THE JOB AS 
POSTMASTER 
GENERAL? 
WHAT DAY? 
>> JUNE 15th. 
>> JUNE 15th. 
AND YOU'VE SEEN 
THIS DATA. 
ON OR AROUND 
THIS TIME IS 
WHEN WE SEE A 
ROUGHLY 8% 
DECLINE IN IT 
SERVICE IN THE 
POSTAL SERVICE, 
WHICH MOST 
PEOPLE WOULD SAY 
CORRELATES TO 
THE 
REORGANIZATION 
AND OPERATIONAL 
EFFICIENCIES YOU 
UNDERTOOK. 
DO YOU THINK 
THAT'S A FAIR 
CHARACTERIZATION? 
>> I THINK 
THERE'S A LOT OF 
DIFFERENT ISSUES 
GOING ON WITHIN 
THE COUNTRY THAT 
IMPACT MAIL 
DELAY, INCLUDING 
THE ACTIONS THAT 
WE TOOK WITH 
REGARD TO 
TRANSPORTATION. 
I THINK THE 
ORGANIZATION, 
THE 
ORGANIZATIONAL 
CHANGE WAS MADE 
BECAUSE OF THE 
POOR, WAS 
ACCELERATED 
BECAUSE OF THE 
POOR ROLLOUT. 
>> I UNDERSTAND. 
>> I THINK THAT. 
>> WE ALL LIVE 
IN A CONTEXT, 
DON'T WE, MR. 
DEJOY? 
YOU'RE IN THE 
CONTEXT OF THE 
WORST PANDEMIC 
IN 100 YEARS. 
%
IN 100 YEARS. ,
WORST PANDEMIC IN
100 YEARS.
50,000 POSTAL
EMPLOYEES WHO
HAVE
GOTTEN THE VIRUS
OR QUARANTINED
BECAUSE OF IT AND
SADLY A FEW
DOZEN DEAD.
AND WERE ON THE
EVE OF A MASSIVE
SHIFT TO VOTING
BY MAIL.
76% OF ALL
AMERICANS LIVE IN
A
STATE THAT CAN
VOTE BY MAIL.
60 TO 70% INTEND
TO VOTE BY MAIL
AND ALONG COMES
THIS.
LET'S STIPULATE
THAT YOUR
MOTIVES WERE PURENG
ANDES. YOU CAME
AT THIS LIKE A
NORMAL PRIVATE
SECTOR CEO.
YOU SEE SOME
PROBLEMS AND YOU
WANT TO SAVE
MONEY AND MAKE US
WORK BETTER.
WOULDN'T YOU
THINK YOU MIGHT
TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THE
CONTEXT?
IF YOU DIDN'T, AS
A GOOD CEO,
WHEN YOU SAW
UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES, YOU
WOULD TAKE
MEASURES QUICKLY
TO AMELIORATE
THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES,
NAMELY SCARINGTE
THE PUBLIC HALF
TO DEATH ABOUT
THE RELIABILITY
OF THE POST
OFFICE, LOTS OF
DATA
THAT IT AFFECTED
THE DELIVERY OF
MAIL.
AS THE NEW POST
MASTER GENERAL,
YOU DON'T WANT TO
BE SEEN AS THE
GUY WHO DAMAGED
THE REPUTATION
OF THE POSTAL
SERVICE AND
GEARED
VOTERS INTO
BELIEVING THAT
THEIR
BALLOTS WILL NOT
GET IN ON TIME
BECAUSE OF YOUR
SERVICE, DO YOU?
>> I UNDERSTAND
THE CONTEXT AND
WHEN WE LOOK IN
TERMS OF THE
CONTEXT, IT WAS
THE SUMMER.
MAIL VOLUME WAS
DOWN
SIGNIFICANTLY.
IT WAS NOT
GETTING READY FOR
THE
PEAK SEASON.
THE ELECTION IS
THREE MONTHS
AWAY.
IT WAS A GOOD
TIME TO START TO
TRY AND ROLL THIS
OUT.
AGAIN, THE
REQUEST WAS RUN
YOUR
TRUCKS ON TIME
AND PUT A PLANNER
ON YOUR TRUCKS ON
TIME.
THE IMPACT, LET
ME JUST SAY THE
IMPACT IS
PROBABLY ABOUT --
FOR
THAT, BECAUSE IF
THE MAIL GETS
PROCESSED AND A
TRUCK LEAVES,
THAT MAIL WILL
MOVE ON THE NEXTT
TRUCK OR THE NEXT
DAY.
SO LONG STORIES
OF NINE DAYS AND
SO FORTH, WERE
NOT IMPACTED.
THOSE SERVICE
LEVELS, IF WE ADD
ONE DAY.
>> FORGIVE ME FOR
INTERRUPTING
BUT WE HAVE
LIMITED TIME.
YOU SAID TO
SENATOR GARRETT
KETOERS, YOU HAVE
NO CONTACT
WITH HIS TENURE,
IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> I HAVE HAD NO
CONTACT WITH
THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO
THE PRESIDENT.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO
STEVE MNUCHIN.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO
OTHER PEOPLE
BUT I HAVE NOT --
I HAVE HAD NO
CONTACT ABOUT THE
POSTAL
SERVICE.
>> DID YOU NOT
TELL THE BOARD OF
GOVERNORS THIS
MONTH IN AUGUST
THAT IN FACT YOU
HAD HAD CONTACT
WITH THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN TO STOP
THEIR ATTACKS ON
THE POSTAL
SERVICE FOR
VOTING BY MAIL?
>> I HAVE PUT
WORDS AROUND TO
DISTANCE PEOPLE
THAT THIS IS NOT
HELPFUL.
>> YOU DID HAVE
CONTACT WITH THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN?
>> FOR A GOOD
PURPOSE.
>> BUT YOU --.
>> WHEN YOU SAY
THEN TRUMP
CAMPAIGN -- I
HAVE NOT SPOKEN
TO
TRUMP CAMPAIGN
LEADERSHIP IN
THAT REGARD.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO
PEOPLE THAT ARE
FRIENDS OF MINE
WHO ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH
THE CAMPAIGN.
>> ONE OFTH WHICH
WAS STEVE
MNUCHIN
HE IS SECRETARY
OF TREASURE.
>> I KNOW.
>> I NEVER SPOKE
TO STEVE ABOUTVE
TELLING THE
PRESIDENT NOT TO
DO
SOMETHING.
>> THANK YOU MR.
DEJOY.
>> THE
GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS
EXPIREDLE BUT YOU
MAY ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
>> WHAT WAS THE
QUESTION?
>> THE QUESTION
WAS WHAT
CONVERSATIONS DID
YOU HAVE WITH
SECRETARY
TREASURY STEVE
MNUCHIN
ABOUTEA T THE
CONSEQUENCES
ABOUT
THE OPERATIONAL
INEFFICIENCIES?
>> THE
CONVERSATIONS
WERE WHEN I
CAME HERE, WET%
 HAD
THIS NOTE THAT
WAS KIND OF STUCK
IN THE MUD AND
I WORKED WITH HIM
TO GET THE
NOTE DONE.
IT WAS REALLY,
YOU KNOW, WE'RE
GOING TO TRY AND
CONTROL COSTS
AND GROW REVENUE
AND IT WAS VERY
HIGH LEVEL THING
AND LET'S TRY
AND GET THE DEAL
DONE SO WE HAVE
THE LOAN.
THAT WAS IT.
>> THANK YOU.
 FOR 11
YEARS.
GIVEN THAT THE
COMMITTEE HELD A
HEARING IN APRIL
2019 ABOUT THE
FINANCIAL
CONDITION OF THE
USPS,
WHY DOIO YOU THINK
WE ARE HAVING A
HEARING TODAY, 48
HOURS AFTER WE
VOTED ON
LEGISLATION
BEFORE WE
HAD A HEARING,
WHY DO YOU THINKGI
WE ARE HAVING A
HEARING TODAY?
>> I DO NOT KNOW,
SIR.
BUT I WILL SAY
THAT I'M
SURPRISED THAT
THE LACK OF
ATTENTION TO THE
FINANCIAL
CONDITION OF THE
POSTAL SERVICE
OVER THE LAST 10
YEARS.
>> SO YOU'RE
SAYING THE
FINANCIAL
CONDITION OF THE
POSTAL SERVICENG IS
NOTHING NEW?
THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT% WE HAVE
KNOWN HAS BEEN
COMING FOR A LONG
TIME AND THE
POSTAL SERVICE
HAS
LOST MONEY FOR AT
LEAST 13
CONSECUTIVE
YEARS?
>> I THINK 10
YEARS.
>> OKAY.
MR. DEJOY, DOES
THE UNITEDMR
STATES POSTAL
SERVICE DELIVER 8
BILLION PIECES OF
MAIL A MONTH,
GIVE OR TAKE?
>> YES, SIR.
>> AND DOES IT
HAVE ABOUT $14
BILLION CASH ON
HAND TO MANAGE
THE AMERICAN
POSTAL SERVICE
FOR
RIGHT NOW, IS
THAT RIGHT?
>> YES, SIR.
>> IF EVERY
SINGLE AMERICAN
VOTED BY MAIL,
WHICH WON'T
HAPPEN, IT WOULD
BE LESS THAN
ABOUT 2% OF THE
TOTAL MAIL
DELIVERED IN A
GIVEN MONTH,
RIGHT?
IN OTHER WORDS IS
THE POSTAL
SERVICE CAPABLE
OF HANDLING ANY
AMOUNT OF MAIL
ATTACHED TO THE
ELECTION IN
NOVEMBER?
>> WE ARE READY
TO HANDLE THE
ELECTION NOW,
SIR.
>> MR. DEJOY, DO
YOU BELIEVE
THIS HEARING TO
DATEIS SO FAR THIS
MORNING OR AT ANY
POINT TODAY
WILL COVER ANY OF
THE FOLLOWING?
THE PPP EXTENSION
TO ENSURE
SMALL BUSINESSES
CAN SURVIVE
WHILE GOVERNMENTS
ARE KEEPING
BUSINESSES SHUT
DOWN, THE
THOUSANDS OF
RESTAURANTS, THE
THOUSANDS OF
HOTELS, THE THOUS
NDZ OF BARBER
SHOPS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY
STRUGGLING TO
SURVIVE?
IS ANYTHING IN
THIS HEARING
GOING TO DISCUSS
XAE OF THAT TO
THE BEST OF
URKNOWLEDGE?
>> NO, SIR.
>> ARE YOU AWARE
OF THIS
DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESS PULLING
UP
ANY LEGISLATION
TO DEAL WITH
THESE ISSUES THIS
MONTH RATHER
THAN GOING HOME
BUT CALLING BACK
CONGRESS TO HAVE
A VOTE ON
SATURDAY?
ARE YOU AWARE OF
THAT?
>> I HAVEN'T BEEN
FOLLOWING THE
AGENDA OF
CONGRESS THAT
MUCH.
I HAVEHA HAD MY OWN
ISSUES TO DEAL
WITH.
>> WELL, I
APPRECIATE THAT.
THERE HASN'T BEEN
THAT MUCH TO
FOLLOW, SO I
APPRECIATE THAT.
ARE WE DISCUSSING
FOR EXAMPLE
HUMAN
TRAFFICKING?
I HAVE BEEN
ASKING FOR A
HEARING
ON SCOURGE ON
HUMAN TRAFFICKING
FOR YEARS.
WE ARE NOT HAVING
A HEARING ON
THAT TODAY.
WE ARE HAVING A
HEARING ON THIS
TOPIC IS THAT
RIGHT?
>> I THINK WE ARE
STICKING TO
POSTAL SERVICE
MATTERS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
MR. DEJOY, I
APPRECIATE YOU
BEING IN FRONT OF
THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK THE FACT
OF THE MATTER
IS CLEAR.
THIS IS A
POLITICAL
EXERCISE.
THIS IS A SHOW.
IT IS SEENPO. ON
SOCIAL MEDIA,
SOME
OF THE
DIFFICULTIES, THE
TECHNOLOGY, THE
FACT OF%% THE
MATTER IS WE ARE
JAMMING THROUGH
THIS FOR THEATER.
WE ARE DOING A
HEARING ON A
MONDAY AFTER A
VOTE ON SATURDAY
THAT HAS NO
PRAYER OF
BECOMING
LAW.
THA AMERICAN
PEOPLE ARE SICK
OF
THIS.
THEY WANT
OF THE
POSTAL SERVICE TO
OPERATE.
WE SHOULD HAVE
HEARINGS ON THE
POSTAL SERVICE
AND WORK
LEGISLATION TO
IMPROVE IT.
THERE AREATOV
BIPARTISAN
EFFORTS TO
DO THAT.
WE SHOULD ROLL
OUR SLEEVES UP
AND DO THAT WORK.
I WOULD SAY THE
SAME THING ABOUT
THE PPP.
I WAS PROUD TO
WORK WITH THESE
FELLOWS IN JUNE
TO PASS
BIPARTISAN
LEGISLATION IN
JUNE.
WHY ARE WESL NOT
DOING THAT NOW?
WHY ARE WE NOT
DOING THAT TODAY?
THAT ISDO OUR JOB.
 PEOPLERE
OUT THERE WHO
ARE STRUGGLING.
THEY CAN'T MAKE A
CHECK, PAY
MORTGAGES,
WONDERING WHETHER
THEY WILL HAVE
THE REVENUE TO
SURVIVE.
THAT IS WHAT WE
SHOULD BEOU
WORKING ON MADAM
CHAIR WOMAN.
I WOULD POSIT
THAT THIS IS A
RACE FOR TIME FOR
THE UNITED
STATES CONGRESS
AND THE AMERICANIT
PEOPLE ARE SICK
OF IT.
WE SHOULD ALLOW
THE POSTAL
SERVICE TO GO
BACK TO DOING
THEIR JOB AND WE
SHOULD BE DOINGOI
OURS.
WITH THAT, I
FIELD BACK.
>> I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN FOR
YIELDING AND HIS
COMMENTS.
THE DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESS DID PASS
THE HEROES ACT ON
MAY 15thS THAT
FUNDED ALL KINDS
OF HELP TO
PEOPLE AND THAT
IS SITTING ON
MITCH McCONNELL'S
DESK AS WELL
AS THIS BILL.
THEY HAVE A
CHOICE.
THEY CANEY STAND
ALONE OR MOVE THE
HEROES ACT.
>> MADAM CHAIR
WOMAN.
>> SENATOR
GRASSMAN YOU ARE
NOW
RECOGNIZED.
>> MADAM CHAIR
WOMAN?
>> I HAVE
DIABETIC CONSIT
WNTS
WAITING FOR
INSULIN AND I
HAVE
CANCER PATIENTS
WAITING FOR
CHEMOTREATMENTHAIE
BUT THIS REALLY
GOT TO ME.
RATS FEEDING ON
ROTTED FOOD AS
CUTBACKS AT
CALIFORNIA'S MAIL
CENTERS.
THIS IS FROM
BUSINESS INSIDER
MAGAZINE.
MR. POST
ID MASTER
GENERAL, WHY DO
YOU CELEBRATE ON
TIME DEPARTURE
OF VEHICLES IF
THE IT TEARIATION
YOU REGRET HAS
LEFT PACKAGES
STACKING UP IN
THE MAIL CENTER?
SHOULD WE BE
CELEBRATING
VEHICLES GOING
OUT ONE  TIME IF
THEY DON'T HAVE
PEOPLE'S
PACKAGES AND
LETTERS ON THEM
AND
THEIR
PRESCRIPTION
DRUGS?
>> SIR, WE ARE
CONCERNED WITH
EVERY LATE
DELIVERY AND
EVERY
PACKAGE BUILD UP.
THERE ARE A LOT
OF CONTRIBUTING
FACTORS AS TO WHY
AND WHERE.
>> WE GO THROUGH
--.
>> LETHR ME FINISH.
WE GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
IT IS AN INTEGRAL
PART OFS.
DELIVERING THE
MAIL AND IT IS A
COST EFFECTIVE
WAY.
THE ALTERNATIVEY.
IS TO RUN TRUCKS
LATE AND RUN
EXTRA TRIPS.
EXTRA TRIPS
 WERE
EMPTY ALSO.
THOUSANDS OF THEM
EMPTY.
>> I CAN'T ALLOW
YOU TO
FILIBUSTER HERE.
PRESIDENT TRUMPE.
CALLED THE POST
OFFICE A JOKE, IS
IT A JOKE?
>> POSTAL SERVICE
IS NOT A JOKE.
>> MR. DEJOY, IF
I WANT TO
BECOME A LETTER
CARRIER, MAIL
HANDLER, POSTAL
CLERK, WOULD YOU
HIRE ME WITHOUT A
BACKGROUND
CHECK?
>> WE HAVE A
PROCESS THAT I DO
BELIEVE INCLUDES
A BACKGROUND
CHECK SO NO.
>> IT IS
COMPELLED, RIGHT?
EVERYONE HAS TO
TAKE ONE EXCEPT?
THEY DIDN'T HAVE
ONE
 FOR YOU.
>> THAT'S NOT
TRUE.
I HAD BACKGROUND
CHECKS.
I HAD SECRET
CLEARANCE, FBI
BACKGROUND
CHECKS,
EVERYTHING.
>> OKAY.
SO YOU WOULDBAKS BE
WILLING TO
RELEASE THE
BACKGROUND
CHECKS?
>> NO, WHY WOULD
I RELEASE THE
BACKGROUND
CHECKS?
>> WELL, THAT'S
INTERESTING.
LET ME GO TO MR.
DUNCAN.
MR. DUNCAN, WOULD
YOU ALLOW
RUSSELL REYNOLDS
TO.,  TURN OVER
THE FILE FROM
THIS PROCESS?
MR. DUNCAN?
OKAY.
LET MEROMR COME BACK
TO YOU MR.
DEJOY.
THE FORMER VICE
CHAIRMANJO OF THE
POSTAL BOARD OF
VICE GOVERNORS,
MR. WILLIAMS, WHO
WAS ALSO THE
INSPECTIVE
GENERAL ALSO
REPORTED
THAT YOU DIDN'T
COME THROUGH THE
NORMAL RUSSELL
REYNOLDS
INTERVIEW PROCESS
BUT YOU WERE
GENERALLY THE
PRODUCT OF
DIFFERENTTH
NOMINATIONS BY
DIFFERENT
POLITICAL PEOPLE.
THE ASTONNISHING
THING ABOUTNA%
WHAT WE SAID LAST
WEEK WAS WHENE
YOU WERET FINALLY
BROUGHT IN FOR
THE FIRST
INTERVIEW, YOU
BASICALLY
INTERVIEWED THE
SELECTION PANEL
RATHER THAN THEM
INTERVIEWING YOU
TO THE POIBT
THAT ONE OF THE
PANEL SAID THAT
THEY BETTER ASK
YOU A QUESTION
SO IT COULDN'T BE
SAID IT WASN'T
A REAL INTERVIEW.
YOU WEREA ALSO
REPORTED SAYING
THAT YOU WEREN'T
SURE WHETHER
YOU WANTED TO
ACCEPT THE JOB
AND
YOU NEEDED TO
INTERVIEW THEM TO
GET DETAILS.
WHAT GAVE YOU THE
CONFIDENCE
THAT THE JOB WAS
YOURS BEFORE
MEETING WITH THE
COMMITTEE?
>> I DID NOT HAVE
THE CONFIDENCE
THAT THE JOB WAS
MINE FOR THE
ASKING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT
MR. WILLIAMS
CONTENTION IS
WITH ME.
>> HE WAS THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL
FOR 13 YEARS AT
THE POSTAL
SERVICE.
>> HE'S OFTEN
PARTIC OF THE
REPORTS THAT HAVE
BEEN STACKING
UP THAT THIS
COMMITTEE HASN'T
DONE.
>>IT WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF THE
FORMER CHAIR
FINEMAN CALLING
SECRETARY
MNUCHIN'S
INVOLVEMENT
IN THE ELECTION
PROCESS
UNPRECEDENTED?
>> STEVEN MNUCHIN
HAD NOTHINGCT
 TO
DO WITH MY
SELECTION, OKAY?
WAS CALLED BY RUS
REL REYNOLDS?
>> DID YOU TALK
TO SECRETARY
MNUCHIN ABOUT
TAKING THE JOB?
THERE WERE
REPORTS THAT YOU
HAD
LUNCH TO TALK
ABOUT IT.
>> IT IS TOTALLY
INACCURATE AND
OUTRAGEOUS.
>>TE BEFORE THE JOB
YOU NFSH
TALKED TO HIM?
>> I TALKED TO
HIM AFTER I TOOK
THE JOB.
>> YOU NEVER
SPOKE TO HIM
BEFORE
ABOUT HIS
SOLICITING YOUR
INTEREST IN THE
JOB?
>> HE DID NOT
SOLICIT ANY
INTEREST.
I KEPT MY
INTEREST AS YOU.
IDENTIFIED, I DID
NOT KNOW I HAD
AN INTEREST.
I HAD A PERFECTLY
GOOD LIFE
PRIOR TO THIS.
I WAS INTERESTED
IN HELPING AND
I WAS CALLED BY
RUSSELL REYNOLDS
OUT OF THE BLUE.
>> ONE OF THE
REASONS WE HAVE
BACKGROUND CHECKS
AND I WILL BE
INTERESTED WITH
YOUR PERMISSION
AND MR. DUNCAN'S
PERMISSION TO
SEE YOUR
BACKGROUND CHECK
IS WE
IDENTIFY PATTERNS
OF MISCONDUCT
OR POTENTIAL
CONFLECTS OF
INTEREST.
>>NF I HAVE NO
PATTERNS OF
MISCONDUCT IN MY
BACKGROUND.
>> ONE OF YOUR
BUSINESSES IS
CALLED XPO
LOGISTICS WHICH
HAS
CONTRACTS WITHICTH
THE POSTAL
SERVICE
STRETCHING BACK B
MANY
YEARS.
OKAY, WELL THE
QUESTION IS THEY
IDENTIFY PROBLEMS
WITH CONTRACT
PERFORMANCE AND
BILLING
PRACTICES IN THE
CONTRACT FILE.
WOULD YOU CONSENT%
TO RELEASING
THAT CONTRACT
FILE SO EVERYONE
CAN SEE WHAT YOUR
BUSINESS IS?
 EVENDON'T
KNOW WHAT YOU
ARE SPEAKING
ABOUT.
>> ARE YOU NOT
AWARE OF XPO
LOGISTICS?
>> I AM AWARE OF
XPO LOGISTICS.
>> DO YOU HAVE
$30 MILLION
INVESTED?
>> HE HAS GONE
WAYOVER HIS TIME.
>> DO YOU HAVE
$30 MILLION$3
INVESTED?
>> I HAVE A
SIGNIFICANTVEAV
INVESTMENT WHICH
I VETTED BEFORE
WITH THE ETHICS
DEPARTMENT OF
THE POSTAL
SERVICE AND I WAS
GIVEN SPECIFIC
TYPES OF
GUIDELINES THAT I
NEEDED TO
ADHERE TO.
IT IS A VERY,
VERY SMALL PART
OF
THE POSTAL
SERVICE BUSINESS
I
HAVE NOTHING TO
DO WITH.
I COMPLY WITH
ALLECTICAL
REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE OUR OWN
INVESTIGATION.
I GUESS WE'LL GET
TO EVERYTHING
YOU ARE
INTERESTED IN ANDCT.
G
WE
WILL SEE WHAT
WILL HAPPEN.
>> MR. RASCONS,
TIME HAS
EXPIRED.
,
STRONG CATEGORY 2 OR MAYBE A 
CATEGORY 3 THAT COULD PUT THIS 
REGION TO THE TEST.
OVERNI
>>> OVERNIGHT,
THE OPENING ACT
OF A HURRICANE
DOUBLE THREAT.
>> YOU'RE GOING
TO GET A RIGHT
HOOK FROM MARCO
AND A LEFT HOOK
FROM LAURA.
>> LAURA CARVING
UP CARIBBEAN
ISLANDS AND
CLAIMING THREE
LIVES
IN THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC.
BUT THE THREAT FLAM.
>> HOW WORRIED
ARE YOU ABOUT
FEBRUARY 2012?
>>> OKAY.
I WANT TO READ
EXCERPTS FROM THE
PRESS RELEASES
AND ASK CHAIRMAN
DUNCAN TO RESPOND
TO THEM.
IN 2011, THE POST
OFFICE
ANNOUNCED, AS AS
A RESULT OF THE
STUDY IN 2010,
THE POSTAL
SERVICE HAS MADE
THE DECISION TO
MOVE MAIL
PROCESSING
OPERATIONS
FROM THE ASHLAND
PROCESSING AND
DISTRIBUTION
FACILITY TO THE
CHARLESTON, WEST
VIRGINIA
FACILITY.
WHAT THIS MEANS
IN EASTERN
KENTUCKY, WHEN WE
MAIL OUR NEXT
DOOR NEIGHBOR,
THE ENVELOPE GOES
TO CHARLESTON,
WEST VIRGINIA
BEFORE IT GOES
BACK TO OUR NEXT
DOOR NEIGHBOR.
I WANT TO READ
FROM THIS OTHER
PRESS RELEASE
FROM THE POST
OFFICE, THE
KENTUCKY ANNA
DISTRICT.
AS A RESULT OF
STUDIES BEGAN
FIVE MONTHS AGO,
THE POSTAL
SERVICE HAS MADE
THE DECISION TO
MOVE ALL MAIL
PROCESSING
OPERATIONS FROM
BOWLING GREEN,
KENTUCKY MOVED TO
NASHVILLE,
COMPTON,
KENTUCKY,
ELIZABETH
TOWN, KENTUCKY,
LEXINGTON,
KENTUCKY, SECOND
LARGEST CITY
LOST THEIR MAIL
PROCESSING
FACILITY IN 2012.
HUBIC KENTUCKY
MOVED TO
LOUISIANA.
SO THIS WAS IN
2012.
THIS WAS AN
ELECTION YEAR AND
THIS WAS WHILE
OBAMA WAS
PRESIDENT AND
BIDEN WAS VICE
PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO READ A
QUOTE FROM
CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER MEGAN
BRENNAN AT THE
TIME.
THE DECISION TO
CONSOLIDATE WAS
AN URGENT NEED TO
REDUCE THE
SIZE OF THE
PROCESSING
NETWORK
TO ELIMINATE
UNDERUTILIZED
INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT IS NECESSARY
IF THE POSTAL
SUFBS TO TO
REMAIN VIABLE TO
REMAIN USEFUL TO
THE NATION.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE COOKED
THUP THEORY THAT
THE POSTAL
SERVICE IS GOING
TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR
SUPPRESSING
VOTES AND THE
MEDIA IS
COMPLICIT
IN THIS.
THEY HAVE SHOWN
VIDEO OF MAIL
SORTING EQUIPMENT
BEING MOVED
OUT OF
FACILITIES.
WELL, HERE I JUST
MENTIONED 10
FACILITIES IN
KENTUCKY THAT
WERE
SHUT DOWN IN AN
ELECTION YEAR.
I WANT TO ASK
CHAIRMAN MIKE
DUNCAN, MR.
DUNCAN, DO YOU
BELIEVE THIS IN
2012 WAS PART OF
A CONSPIRACY TO
DISENFRANCHISE
VOTERS IN THE
2012 ELECTION
WERE
PART OF A
CONSPIRACY TO
KEEP
PEOPLE FROM
GETTING THEIR
MEDICARE OR
SOCIAL SECURITY T
CHECKS?
>> CONGRESSMAN, I
HAVE NO
KNOWLEDGE OF A
CONSPIRACY THAT
COULD KEEP PEOPLE
FROM VOTING OR
COMBETING SOCIAL
SECURITY
CHECKS.
AS A RESIDENTS OF
THE AREA, I
KNOW IT HAS ADDED
DAYS TO
SENDING AND
RECEIVING A
LETTER.
>> AND I BELIEVE
YOU KNOW THAT
CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER MEGAN
BRANNON, SHE WAS
THE CEOO IN
2010 AND THEN
BECAME POST
MASTER
GENERAL.
DO YOU QUESTION
HER MOTIVES IN
THE COURSE OF
THESE OPERATIONS?
>> NO, I WORK
CLOSELY WITH
MEGAN
BRANNON WHEN SHE
WAS CHIEF OF
THE ORGANIZATION.
SHE HAS GREAT
INTEGRITY.
SHE HAS BEEN AN
OPERATIONS
PERSON, WAS A
LETTER CARRIER,
SHE WORKED HER
WAY UP.
>> AND SHE HAS A
BUSINESS DEGREE
FROM M.I.T.
I WOULD ADD.
THIS WASN'T AER
PART OF A
CONSPIRACY THEN.
IT WAS PART OF
REALIGNING THE
INFRASTRUCTURE TO
THE CHANGING
NEEDS OF THE U.S.
CUSTOMER.
I JUST WANT TO
CLOSE BY
HIGHLIGHTING SOME
IRONY AND
HYPOCRISY.
POST MASTER
GENERAL DEJOY,
HOW
LONG WILL THE
POST OFFICE BE
FUNDED IF THERE
IS NO TRANSFERS
OF CASH TO THE
POST OFFICE.
HOW LONG CAN YOU
OPERATE?
>> SIR WOULD YOU
TURN ON YOUR
MIC, PLEASE?
>> LATE 2021.
>> OKAY.
LATE 2021.
SO AT LEAST FOR
ONE MORE YEAR.
I HOPE THE
MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE ARE
AWARE THAT THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT
CEASES TO BE
FUNDED ON
SEPTEMBER OF 30th
OF
YEAS YEAR.
WE ARE HOLDING A
HEARING WHILE
THE POST OFFICE
IS FUNDED FOR
ANOTHER YEAR.
WE ARE NOT EVEN
IN TOWN BECAUSE
SPEAKER PELOSI
ISN'T CONCERNED
THAT GOVERNMENT
FUNDING ENDS ON
SEPTEMBER 30th.
EVERYTHING BUT
THE POST OFFICE
SHUTS DOWN ON
SEPTEMBER 30th AT
MIDNIGHT IF WE
DON'T DO
SOMETHING.
ALSO, ONE OTHER
ELEMENT OF IRONY
AND HYPOCRISY,
OUR GOVERNMENT
SHUT DOWN 95% OF
VOTER
PRECINCTSES IN
THE STATE AND NOW
THE GOVERNMENT IS
TRYING TO
BLAME THE POST
OFFICE FOR
DISENFRANCHISING
VOTERS.
WITH THAT, I
YIELD BACK.
>> GENTLEMAN
YIELDS BACK.
WE RECOGNIZE
CONGRESSMAN
RUDOLPH
NOW.
>> THANK YOU.
LET'S LEVEL.
FOR THE BIG
HEADED
INDIVIDUALS
WHO DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHY WE
ARE
HERE TODAY.
LET ME SUM IT UP.
FIRST, MAIL IS
BEING DELIVERED
LATE AT THE
EXPENSE OF PEOPLE
WHO NEED
PRESCRIPTIONS, AT
THE
EXPENSE OF SMALL
BUSINESSES WHO
NEED SUPPLIES TO
STAY IN
BUSINESS OR
REOPEN FOR
BUSINESS,
FOR SOCIAL
SECURITY
RECIPIENTS
AND VETERANS WHO
NEED THEIR
BENEFITS.
THAT'S THE FIRST
REASON.
THE SECOND REASON
IS WE HAVE A
PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES
WHO SAYS MAIL IN
BALLOTS ARE
FRAUDULENT AND IF
HE DOESN'T WIN
THE ELECTION IT
IS BECAUSE IT'S
FRAUDULENT.
WE KNOW THAT IS A
LIE AND THE
LIE CONTINUES TO
BE CONTINUED BY
MEMBERS IN THIS
COMMITTEE ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE
AISLE .
WE KNOW OF A MEMO
FROM DEJOY TO
SIX STATES THAT
THEY SHOULD BE
WORRIED ABOUT
MAIL IN BALLOTS
TO
BE RECEIVED IN
TIME.
AND WE ARE HERE
BECAUSE THE
POSTAL SUFBS HAS
REQUESTED
FINANCIAL HELP
FROM THIS
INSTITUTION.
LET ME TURN TO MY
QUESTIONS.
UNLIKE ANY
PRIVATE
ENTERPRISE,
THE POSTAL
SERVICE HAS A
UNIVERSAL SERVICE
OBLIGATION TO
DELIVER MAIL IN
ANY ADDRESS IN
THE UNITED STATES
REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER IT IS
PROFITABLE OR
NOT.
THE POST OFFICE
HAS A RIDICULOUS
MANDATE TO
PREFUND IN TEN
YEARS
TIME, 75 YEARS OF
RETIREE HEALTH
BENEFITS UNLIKE
ANY OTHER
PRIVATE OR PUBLIC
INSTITUTION.
MR. DEJOY IN YOUR
TESTIMONY, YOU
STATED THAT YOU
ARE AGAINST THE
REFUNDING
MANDATE.
THE TRUMP
APPOINTED BOARD
OF
GOVERNORS POSTAL
WORKERS AND SEN
PORZ ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE
AISLE
ARE AGAINST THAT
MANDATE.
AS YOU KNOW,
THERE IS A
BIPARTISAN BILL
SITTING ON MITCH
McCONNELL'S DESK
THAT WOULD
ELIMINATE THE
PREFUNDING
MANDATE
AND FREE UP TENS
OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS FOR THE
U.S. POSTAL
SERVICE.
HERE'S SOME FREE
BUSINESS
ADVICE, PICK UP
THE PHONE AND
CALL MITCH
McCONNELL.
BECAUSE ONE VOTE
AND ONE STROKE
OF A PEN BY THIS
PRESIDENT WOULD
FREE UP BILL YPZ
OF DOLLARS FOR
THE U.S. POSTAL
SERVICE TO
ACCOMPLISH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO
REVITALIZE THAT
ORGANIZATION FOR
DECADES TO COME.
I HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS ABOUT
YOUR
BUSINESS PLAN.
IT IS STANDARD
PRACTICE AS AN
EXECUTIVE TO COME
IN, MEET WITH
YOUR TEAM AND
DEVELOP A PLAN
BEFORE EXECUTING
CHANGES.
THIS WAS THE PLAN
RELEASED IN
MAY BEFORE YOU
BECAME POST
MASTER GENERAL.
DID YOU MAKE ANY
WRITTEN
MODIFICATIONS TO
THIS PLAN SINCE
YOU HAVE TAKEN
OFFICE?
>> FIRST OF ALL,
YOU ARE
INCORRECT ON MY
POSITION ON THE
PREFUNDING OF THE
HEALTHCARE.
I KNOW YOU
SUPPORT IT.
>> YES, I SUPPORT
IT.
>> I SAID THAT,
YES.
BUT HAVE YOU MADE
ANY
MODIFICATIONS TO
THE BUSINESS
PLAN?
>> I'M WORKING ON
MAKING
MODIFICATIONS OF
THE PLAN.
>> IN FACT ON
AUGUST 13th,
DEVELOPING A
STRATEGIC PLAN TO
ACHIEVE FINANCIAL
STABILITY.
IS THAT A PLAN
YOU ARE WORKING
ON?
>> IT IS APPROVED
BY THE BOARD
OF GOVERNORS.
I MUST SAY WE DO
NEED TO
IDENTIFY THAT
LEGISLATION ALSO
REQUIRES THAT THE
POSTAL SERVICE
BE SELF
SUSTAINING AND IT
HAS
NOT.
>> THAT'S WHY
GETTING RID OF
THE
PREMANDATE IS SO
IMPORTANT.
I WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE
WORKING UNDER A
WRITTEN PLAN OF
SOME KIND.
IF YOU HAVE MADE
ANY WRITTEN
MODIFICATIONS IN
MEMOES TO TEAM
MEMBERS, WILL YOU
PROVIDE THIS
COMMITTEE WITH
THAT INFORMATION
SO WE KNOW HOW
YOU HAVE MODIFIED
THIS FIVE YEAR
PLAN?
>> WHEN WE COME
OUT WITH A PLAN
--.
>> SURELY YOU
HAVE DOCUMENTS
FLOATING AROUND,
RIGHT?
YOU CAN GIVE US A
DRAFT CAN'T
YOU?
>> I WOULD NOT
--.
>> CAN'T GIVE US
A DRAFT?
WE JUST GOT A
DRAFT SHOWING YOU
ARE DOWN 10%
NATIONAL AND IN
BATTLEGROUNDS
EVEN MORE.
CAN YOU GET THAT
INFORMATION TO
US AS REQUESTED?
>> PROBABLY NOT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU
THIS.
LET'S TURN TO THE
IMPACT YOU
HAVE HAD WITH THE
INTERNAL
COMMUNICATIONS
THAT SHOW SENIOR
MANAGERS NOT TO
EVEN PLUG IN THE
PREVIOUSLY
DISCONNECTED
MACHINES
WITHOUT APPROVAL
FROM HEAD
QUARTERS.
MAIL PROCESSING
EQUIPMENT, BOXES
WILL REMAIN WHERE
THEY ARE.
WILL YOU TELL THE
AMERICAN
PUBLIC RIGHT NOW
THAT USPS
EMPLOYEES CAN
PLUG IN
DISCONNECTED
MACHINES.
>> I'M AWARE OF
THE DIRECTIVE
YOU ARE SPEAKING
ABOUT.
>> IT IS INTERNAL
COMMUNICATION
FROM USPS.
YOU WILL ALLOW
THEM TO PLUG IN
MACHINES TO DO
THEIR JOB?
>> I'M NOT GOING
TO AGREE TO
SOMETHING THAT
I'M UNAWARE OF.
>> THIS IS LIKE
TELLING THEM YOU
CAN'T PLUG IN THE
BLENDERS TO DO
THEIR JOB.
>> THERE MUST BE
A RAENZ IF THE
ORGANIZATION.
>> BUT YOU ARE
THE HEAD OF THE
UNION.
THE BUCK STOPS
WITH ME.
>> THE BUCK ON
WHAT MACHINE GETS
PLUGGED IN?
THAT IS
OUTRAGEOUS.
>> THE FACT THAT
YOU ARE DOWN
10% NATIONALLY.
>> THAT HAS
NOTHING TO DO
WITH
AN UNPLUGGED
MACHINE.
>> WE NOW
RECOGNIZE
CONGRESSMAN
PROCRANA.
EXCUSE ME,
CONGRESSMAN HIES.
>> THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR.
I WILL JUST BRING
UP, IF I MAY,
THE FACT THAT YOU
ALLOWED MR.
RASCON TO GO
SIGNIFICANTLY
OVER
HIS TIME WHILE AT
THE SAME TIME
CUTTING OFF MR.
ROY.
IT IS NOT GOING
UNNOTICED.
I THINK MR. ROY'S
POINT
REGARDING THE
HEROES ACT, THAT
IT WAS $3.4
TRILLION OF SWAMP
SPENDING AND DID
NOT EVEN EXTEND
THE PPP WHICH WAS
WHAT IT WAS
SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT WHAT THE
HEROES ACT DID
INCLUDE WAS
UNIVERSAL MAIL IN
BALLOTS, NO VOTER
I.D.
FOR ALL
OF THOSE BALLOTS.
THE HEROES ACT
WHICH WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE
ABOUT COVID HELP
AND RELIEF DID
NOT EXTEND PPP
BUT IT DID HAVE A
WHOLE LOT OF
VOTING REFORM IN
IT THAT
ACTUALLY BRINGS
US INTO THE
CONVERSATION HERE
TODAY.
MR. DEJOY, I
THINK YOU WOULD
AGREE WITH ME,
WOULD YOU NOT,
THAT THE SANCTITY
OF THE VOTING
BOX, BALLOT BOX,
IS A PARAMOUNT
ISSUE FOR
AMERICANS?
WOULD YOU AGREE?
>> YES, SIR.
>> I'M SURE ALL
OF US WOULD.
NOW IN 2017,
THERE WAS AN
INVESTIGATION BY
THE OFFICE OF
SPECIAL COUNSEL
THAT CONCLUDED
THAT THE UNITED
STATES POSTAL
SERVICE
IMPROPERLY
COORDINATED
WITH THE POSTAL
WORKERS UNION IN
SUPPORT OF
HILLARY CLINTON.
THE INVESTIGATION
WENT ON AND
STATED THAT IT
WAS A SYSTEMATIC
VIOLATION OF THE
HATCH ACT THAT
WAS INVOLVED.
MANY POSTAL
WORKERS HAD HAD
TO
-- WERE REQUIRED
TO WORK
OVERTIME TO MAKE
UP FOR THE
ABSENCE OF ALL OF
THAT.
IT IS ALSO VERY
INTERESTING THAT
THE UNION WE ARE
REFERRING TO,
THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF
LETTER CARRIERS,
WHICH JUST TEN
DAYS AGO,
ENDORSED BIDEN
FOR
PRESIDENT.
LET ME ASK YOU,
HOW MANY
FRAUDULENT VOTES
ARE NECESSARY
FOR IT TO BE
CONSIDERED TOO
MANY?
>> I DON'T KNOW,
SIR.
I GUESS ONE.
>> I WOULD SAY
ONE.
WE DON'T WANT
FRAUDULENT VOTES.
THERE IS NO
REASON FOR US TO
HAVE THAT.
YOUR PREDECESSOR,
MISS BRENNAN
COMMITTED TO
FULLY IMPLEMENT
SOME OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS,
ALL
OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM OSC
TO AVOID FUTURE
HATCH
VIOLATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO
ASK YOU, WHAT
KIND OF CHANGES
HAVE YOU MADE TO
PREVENT THESE
TYPE OF
VIOLATIONS
FROM TAKING PLACE
IN THE FUTURE?
>> CONGRESSMAN,
THAT IS NOT A
FOCUS THAT I HAVE
HAD IN MY 70
DAYS BUT I WILL
TAKE A LOOK AT
THE STATUS OF
THAT INITIATIVE
AND GET BACK TO
YOU.
>> OKAY.
I WOULD
APPRECIATE YOU
GETTING
BACK WITH US.
THERE IS NO
QUESTION IN MY
MIND
THAT THE VAST
MAJORITY OF USPS
WORKERS ARE
FAITHFUL WORKERS.
THEY ARE HONEST
DEDICATED PUBLIC
SERVANTS.
THAT BEING SAID,
WHAT THE OSC
HAS IDENTIFIED IS
WITHOUT
QUESTION MANY
CASES, POLITICAL
BIAS.
AND IN FACT --
JUST LAY THIS
OUT, WHEN YOU
HAVE A UNION THAT
CONSISTS OF
300,000 WORKERS
AND
THAT UNION COMES
OUT AND
ENDORSES A
CANDIDATE IN THIS
CASE, BIDEN, AND
THEN THAT UNION
IS SUPPOSED TO BE
EXPECTED TO
ACCURATELY HANDLE
AND DELIVER
BALLOTS TO BOTH
PARTIES FAIRLY,
DOES THAT RAISE
ANY CONCERNS FOR
YOU AT ALL?
>> SIR, I RESPECT
EVERYBODY'S
RIGHT TO SUPPORT
CANDIDATES AND
DONATE TO
CANDIDATES.
I HAVE DONE SO
MYSELF FOR 20
YEARS.
IN MY MIND IT
DOESN'T RAISE ANY
AWARENESS OF
CONCERN WITH
REGARD
TO POSTAL
WORKERS.
THE POSTAL
SERVICE HAS
650,000
PEOPLE.
WE WILL HAVE LIKE
THE REST OF
THE AMERICAN
SOCIETY, WE WILL
HAVE PEOPLE WHO
DON'T PAY
ATTENTION TO THE
LAWS.
BUT FOR THE MOST
PART I BELIEVE
IN THE ABILITY TO
DONATE.
>>> HOPEFULLY WE
HAVE JUDGES
THAT WILL GIVE IT
A FAIR CALL.
IF THEY GIVE IT A
FAIR CALL, WE
WILL WIN THIS
ELECTION.
THE ONLY WAY THEY
CAN TAKE THIS
ELECTION FROM US
IS IF THIS IS A
RIGGED ELECTION.
WE ARE GOING TO
WIN THIS
ELECTION.
WE ARE GOING TO
WIN THIS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
.
>> I'M JUST
SAYING, WE CANNOT
HAVE THESE LIVE
-- SOME PEOPLE
CALL THEM
UNIVERSAL, I LIKE
THE
WORD LIVE -- SENT
TO EVERYONE,
PEOPLE WHO NEVER
ASKED FOR THEM.
YOU'RE SITTING
THERE AND YOU GET
A BALLOT.
HERE'S THE BOTTOM
LINE.
IT WAS JUST GIVEN
IN THE POLLS
BECAUSE THE POLLS
TRY TO TREAT
US WEIRD.
RASMUSSEN DID
WELL, A FEW OF
THE
OTHERS DID WELL.
THOSE ARE THE
ONES THAT I LOOK
AT, THE ONES THAT
DID WELL LAST
TIME.
IF YOU LOOK AT
IT, EVERY SINGLE
VOTE THAT THEY
HAVE, EVERY
SINGLE VOTE IS
GOING TO BE
LOOKED AT.
A MAN OR A WOMAN
IS SITTING
WAITING FOR
NOTHING, WATCHING
TELEVISION AND NO
ENTHUSIASM
BECAUSE THE POLLS
ARE SAYING I'M
UP BY MASSIVE
NUMBERS, NOT JUST
A LITTLE, I'M WAY
UP ON THE
ECONOMY.
BUT I'M UP BY
MASSIVE -- WHEN I
SAY I'M UP, I'M
TALKING ABOUT
WE'RE UP.
IF YOU COULD.
I'M UP ON MASSIVE
NUMBERS.
OUR VOTERS ARE
SAYING, I'M VERY
ANGRY ABOUT THIS,
I'LL GO TO THE
POLLS DIRECTLY
AND VOTE.
THEIR VOTERS ARE
 
LIGHT.
A WATCHDOG FOUND 
ONE-THIRD OF PUBLIC 
SCHOOLS IN THE U.S. 
NEED IMPROVEMENTS TO 
THEIR AIR SYSTEMS FOR 
PROPER VENTILATION. 
>> WE HAVE 
UNDERINVESTED IN OUR 
SCHOOL BUILDING 
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR 
DECADES AND WE'RE 
PAYING THE PRICE FOR 
THAT RIGHT NOW. 
>> JULIANNA'S 
CLASSROOM IS ONE OF 
12,000 IN THE SCHOOL 
DISTRICT THAT WILL GET
NEW FILTERS.
A HIGH-QUALITY FILTER 
THAT CAN CATCH SMALLER
CONTAMINANTS.
STILL, IT'S NOT A 
CATCHALL.
A PRELIMINARY STUDY 
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
MINNESOTA FOUND WHEN 
AN ASYMPTOMATIC 
TEACHER WAS TALKING IN
A ROOM WITH STRONG 
VENTILATION ONLY 10% 
OF VIRUS PARTICLES 
WERE FILTERED OUT. 
>> IS IT A SOFTBALL 
WITH COVID-19, NO, BUT
IT'S A NECESSARY STEP 
WE HAVE TO TAKE. 
>> IT'S AN EXTRA 
HEALTH MEASURE THE CDC
HAS NOW ADDED TO THEIR
SCHOOL GUIDELINES.
SO HOW DO YOU KNOW IF 
YOUR CHILD'S SCHOOL 
HAS PROPER 
VENTILATION. 
>> SHOULD THEY BE 
ASKING ABOUT THE 
VENTILATION SYSTEM?
>> ABSOLUTELY. 
>> ARE THEY USING 
BETTER FILTERS. 
>> YOU SHOULD BE 
LOOKING FOR
