>>Male Presenter: My name is Steve Grove.
I'm the Head of News and Politics at YouTube
and it's my pleasure to welcome today, Anderson
Cooper.
[applause and cheering]
>>Anderson Cooper: Alright. Yep.
>>Steve: Welcome. It's good to see you.
>>Anderson Cooper: Thanks.
>>Steve: Thanks for joining us.
>>Anderson Cooper: I love that you have to
tell people to put away their laptops.
>>Steve: That's a very Google thing.
>>Anderson Cooper: It's a very Google--. Don't
you all have work to do? What the hell are
you all doing here?
[laughter]
>>Steve: You've actually torn people away,
but not really 'cause they brought their laptops.
>>Anderson Cooper: I appreciate it. I hope
the whole company hasn't come to a halt. I
feel like--.
>>Steve: Well, we'll see. Productivity is
definitely going down right now.
>>Anderson Cooper: That's right. OK. Sergey
Brin is screaming.
>>Steve: Well, welcome.
>>Anderson Cooper: Thanks. Yeah, it's good
to be here.
>>Steve: Have you ever been here before?
>>Anderson Cooper: I have not. No. I mean,
I've gone to Chelsea Markets. So, I've been
near here.
>>Steve: Not the office.
>>Anderson Cooper: No, not the office itself.
>>Steve: But you've been a friend of YouTube
for--
>>Anderson Cooper: But you also--. I work
in news where everybody is like, grizzled
and unhealthy. And you all look like young
and fresh and happy, which is very odd.
[laughter]
Working in cable news, it's odd to see that.
>>Steve: I'm guessing the mean age here is
lower than over at--.
>>Anderson Cooper: I think so, yeah. And on
my daytime show, you're about the mean age,
but at news, yeah. We have a lot more grizzled
vets.
>>Steve: Well tell us about that. So, you're
starting a talk show on television.
>>Anderson Cooper: I am. I'm starting a daytime
talk show. So, yeah. I mean, I'm staying at
CNN and I'll continue to do that at night.
But I'm starting a talk show that goes on
the air September 12th.
>>Steve: And what's it about? What's your
focus?
>>Anderson Cooper: Well, it's a daytime talk
show, so it's really a variety of things.
It's a show which one day will have a big
celebrity interview, the next day will have
a provocative social issue, the next day it'll
be some pop culture stuff, which I'm addicted
to pop culture in addition to that.
>>Steve: Really?
>>Anderson Cooper: Yeah.
>>Steve: You're addicted to pop culture?
>>Anderson Cooper: I am. Yeah. I watch--
>>Steve: I thought you were a news guy.
>>Anderson Cooper: I am a news guy, but I
watch nonstop television and I have since--.
I literally recently found my TV viewing schedule
that I made for myself when I was in 4th grade.
[laughter]
And from the moment I got home at 3:30 or
whatever it was, I had blocked out in 30-minute
increments. And I allowed like, 15 minutes
for dinner with my family, which tell you
a little bit something about my home life.
And I allowed 15 minutes for homework.
[laughter]
Which, in 4th grade, it was acceptable. But
yeah, I--
>>Steve: You had a TV schedule.
>>Anderson Cooper: A TV schedule.
>>Steve: Any pop culture stuff?
>>Anderson Cooper: Magilla Gorilla starting
at 3:30 and then it went The Andy Griffith
Show. All sorts of things, yeah.
>>Steve: Wow. So this isn't uncharted territory.
>>Anderson Cooper: Yeah. I mean, I literally
watch tons of just cheesy reality TV shows.
I watch The Soup to catch the shows that I've
missed.
[laughter]
And I watch Tosh.0 to catch-up on the web
stuff that I'm missing. So, I feel like I
have all my bases covered.
>>Steve: What's your favorite pop culture
show on TV?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, man. I go through phases.
I was an early admirer of the Atlanta Housewives.
Perhaps you've seen their work?
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: I missed that one.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Really?
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah, I'm ashamed to say.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Anyone here seen it?
[laughter]
Yeah, all right. Good. Sure. Say it proudly.
Don't be afraid.
[laughter]
But I've moved on. I'm now the Beverly Hills
ladies. They got me. So, yes.
[whooping]
Yes, thank you. Thank you for sharing that
with me.
[laughter]
And yeah. So, I watch the Beverly Hills Housewives.
I feel like Bravo schedules the Housewives
back to back so much that emotionally, I need
a little bit of a break. So, I actually have
DVR'd the New Jersey Housewives because I
feel like I'm not really ready for them yet.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: I see, I see.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: But I'm saving up for a
rainy day.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, maybe you can watch some
of the clips on YouTube if you miss them during
the day.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's right. I also watch
drama. I'm a big addict to Breaking Bad and
The Killing, although the last episode I was
very angry about. But yeah, I watch a lot
of stuff.
>>STEVE GROVE: You're no stranger to YouTube.
You and I met back in '07 when we did the
CNN YouTube debates.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's right.
>>STEVE GROVE: Where you moderated a couple
debates with citizen questions from YouTube.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Which was cool.
>>STEVE GROVE: And last week--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I'm not sure the Republican
candidates liked it as much as the Democratic
candidates.
>>STEVE GROVE: No, no. They weren't as happy
about the snowman-like questions.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: They didn't like the snow--.
Yes, that's right. Yes.
>>STEVE GROVE: But it was pivotal. There were
definitely moments. Back then it was, of course,
"Oh my God, social media in a debate."
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>STEVE GROVE: Now, it's like every debate
has these sorts of aspects to it.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. No, it's interesting.
It's--. Obviously, it's been a sea change.
>>STEVE GROVE: Last week, you had probably
you're biggest YouTube moment ever.
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I have no idea what you're
talking about.
>>STEVE GROVE: I hate to do this to you, Anderson,
but we have to just remind our viewing audience
here.
[applause]
[plays clip]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: All I can say is they should
thank their lucky stars it wasn't Depar-Two.
Sorry. That made me giggle every time I read
it. He hasn't commented on this incident.
[A laughs uncontrollably]
Depar-Two. I know you got it, but.
[A laughs uncontrollably]
This is the worst part coming up. So bad.
>>STEVE GROVE: This is live on the air.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: All right. Well, we'll spare
you.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Sorry, this has actually
never happened to me. But we'll see this whole
thing on YouTube and you [inaudible].
[applause]
>>STEVE GROVE: So, what happened?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Every time I read it, I
was reading it and stuff and I'd been tweaking
the writing and stuff. And then, I don't know.
It just made me giggle every time and I have
always giggled like a 13-year old girl meeting
Justin Beiber at a meet and greet.
[laughter]
But I've usually been able to control it or
stop it. I just, I've never been in a situation--.
You see these people on YouTube or elsewhere
doing this and you think, "I'd be able to
do something about it." I could not do anything
about it.
[laughter]
True.
>>STEVE GROVE: Your show is taped late on
the West Coast and you're on a second hour
later. Were you tempted to cut that out?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Well, it's funny. As soon
as this happened and then we're off the air,
I said to my producer 'cause I was--. That
was at 8 o'clock and my show was gonna be
repeated at 10. And I said, "We can just pull
that up for the 10 o'clock." And there was
silence. I said that out there and there was
silence in my ear on the IFB and they were
like, "Oh no, no, no, no, no."
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: That's staying.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: "We are not pulling that
up at all." So, it was fine by me.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah, you're a good sport about
it.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Totally. I mean, I make
fun of myself more than anything else.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, you've launched a YouTube
channel--I've just pulled it up here--for
the talk show.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Mm-hmm.
>>STEVE GROVE: You've been posting videos
and taking questions. Some of those we'll
get to in a moment. I wanted to just play
an example of a way that you've been using
YouTube to get audiences excited about the
show.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
[plays video clip]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: atrightontime123. How do
people come up with these names? OK. atrightontime123.
"Hey I can't wait for the new show." Thank
you. "My question is this, what was the last
song that got stuck in your head?" Umm, hmm,
it's really just embarrassing.
I can't believe I'm gonna say this. Rebecca
Black. Terrible. It's really bad. But that
stupid song, it got stuck in my head. Like,
I was late to the whole Rebecca Black thing
and once I saw it, I mean, it was just mind-bogglingly
bad, but I find myself doing, "It's Friday,
Friday."
[laughter]
I don't even know the words. I just sang that
stupid thing in my head. And then I heard
she was--. I was listening to BBC radio over
the weekend and there was some Katy Perry
song and I think they were saying that Rebecca
Black was in the video. [sighs]
[laughter]
[end clip]
>>STEVE GROVE: So, you've been using the web
to get your show promoted. How has that been?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: It's, I think, been really
successful. We're using that. We're using
Twitter. We're using all sorts of stuff. But
I've got a great couple people who are much
smarter than I am online and really think
about this a lot more than I have in the past.
And I was reluctant to--. I feel like I work
enough as it is. I was resenting the idea
that I had to do this extra thing online,
but I've gotten over that and now it's become
incorporated in my daily routine. And I actually
like it. I like the intimacy of these kinds
of videos.
I like it's just me at my laptop. And my assistant
showed me how to save the things 'cause I
screwed up the first couple ones. But I like
having that communication with viewers and
I think viewers like it as well. And in a
time when we're not yet on the air, we go
on the air September 12th, and we just started
taping some shows, it's a way to start communicating
with viewers.
And especially in daytime TV, I mean, for
those of you who have watched Oprah or one
of these daytime TV shows, it's about building
a sense of community, building connection
with viewers.
>>STEVE GROVE: Right.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: And it's not just a program
that is on the air one hour a day. You want
it to be, if it's successful, and the shows
that have been the most successful and the
shows that I, as a viewer, feel the most connected
to and that's what you want.
You want people to feel connected to it. It's
not just connected to that one hour that you're
on the air. It's connected to it in a real-time,
24-hour way, online. There's a community of
people you talk to.
>>STEVE GROVE: You get feedback.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, you get feedback.
And the show and the website and the YouTube
channel, it's all a place where you feel you
belong and you wanna check in with.
>>STEVE GROVE: What is the purpose of a daytime
talk show? I mean, if you want a conversation
with--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: In the TV business, if
we start asking ourselves that, none of us
will--
[laughter]
do anything.
>>STEVE GROVE: What is the purpose of your
show in your mind?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: There's two purposes. I'll
say there's personal and then there's for
other people. For me, personally, I've been
reporting for 20 years and have from--.
I'm very passionate about news and about what
I do and I love to travel and go to the front
lines of stories. And I wanna continue doing
that. But I also, at the age of 44, wanna
do something which does allow for more human
connection with other people and which allows
me to show more of my personality.
And news, there is a certain formality to
it and a certain one- or two-dimensional nature
of it. And it's nice to do something which
is more three-dimensional in which you show
that you have a dry sense of humor or whatever
it is,
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: to be able to show that.
And at other times when you're giggling like
a 13-year old girl. So, in a daytime format,
you really can. I have an audience of 300
people up at the Time Warner Center in the
Jazz at Lincoln Center Room. It's The Allen
Room. It's this incredible room.
And it's great to have that interaction with
the audience. And I really like it in real-time.
And you can have fun with people and it can
be serious. There's a great variety of things
you can do in daytime. And for viewers, I
really do want--. I think there's a lot of
people who feel very disconnected.
And most viewers of daytime shows are women.
I think there's a lot of women out there,
particularly throughout the country, who have
faced huge challenges in their lives and huge
difficulties in trying to support their families
and also work and feel satisfied in their
lives and feel connected to their communities
and their families.
And I think you can really talk about real
things and things which really do resonate
with people's lives.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, a lot of those fans and
viewers made questions on your YouTube channel.
We'll play a few of them now.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: OK.
>>STEVE GROVE: And then, we'll take some questions
from the folks here as well.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Sounds good.
>>STEVE GROVE: So, the top voted video question
came from this UNC student.
[plays video clip]
>>Student: Hey, Anderson. I'm Leslie and I
go to the University of North Carolina. I
was wondering what your favorite class in
college was, or if there was a class that
you took you found most useful for life in
general? Thanks.
[end clip]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: God. I remember those bunk
beds. Jesus.
[laughter]
Do you remember those? Oy. Was there a class
in college that I found useful in life? No,
actually.
[laughter]
Did anybody find a class?
>>STEVE GROVE: Ringing endorsement of going
to college.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. I don't wanna badmouth
Yale, but no, there was nothing.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: You heard it here.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, that's right. Exactly.
>>STEVE GROVE: Don't go to Yale.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's what I spent the
money on? I mean, I majored in Political Science,
which at the time to me it was like majoring
in reading the newspaper every day. And I
don't quite understand what political science
enables me to do, or entitles me to do.
I mean, I was Liberal Arts major, which means
that I had no actual skill.
[laughter]
And I work in TV 'cause I have no actual skill.
But I really don't--. I wasn't one of those
students in college who felt--. I didn't love
the college experience. Adults would say like,
"College was the best four years of my life."
And I think, "God, if that was the best four
years of my life, just shoot me in the head
because--
[laughter]
I mean, it was fine. It was great, I guess.
But the best four? I feel like the best is
yet to come and each year it keeps getting
better and better and better. And at 44 and
I feel so much happier and more confident
and all that stuff than I did back then.
>>STEVE GROVE: Right after college, didn't
you essentially just start reporting from
war zones?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: My brother had committed
suicide right before my senior year of college
and so my senior year was sort of a blur to
me. And when I graduated, I had not done any
job interviews. I really had no idea what
I wanted to do. I was really still trying
to adjust to the reality of the situation
and so, I took a year off.
And I lived on Long Island for a while. I
did carpentry work. And then I travelled around
in Southeast Asia on my own. But after that,
I decided--. I made a list of all the things
I wanted in my life, like things that I wanted
to look back on and not achievement things,
but just, I wanted to feel fulfilled and I
wanted to see the world.
And I didn't wanna be in a grey office in
a grey cubicle and a grey suit. So, of all
the things and I watched a lot of TV growing
up, as I said, and I watched a lot of news.
I was probably the only eight-year old who
was really into Eric Sevareid. I mean, no
one in this room even knows who Eric Sevareid
is.
[laughter]
But had I said that at CNN, everybody would
be like, "Ah, yes."
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Was he a producer at CBS?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: No. He was a famous on
air person at CBS News. He's legendary. Anyway,
you kids today. You don't know.
[laughter]
You don't know what it was like in the--
>>STEVE GROVE: 80s.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: 1990s.
[laughter]
So, I thought, "Wow, being a news reporter
would be interesting." And I like TV and being
able to see history as it's happening would
be really cool. So, I tried to get an entry
level job in TV.
I tried to get an entry level job at ABC News
and I could not get hired at ABC News. And
there was a recession at the time. It was
like, '91, '92. So, I came up with this scheme
which was, "I'm gonna have a friend make a
press pass for me on a Macintosh computer."
And I did that and I borrowed a home video
camera and I decided I'm gonna go to wars
because I won't have much competition 'cause
most people are too scared to go. And it'll
be an interesting life experience and also,
wars seemed dramatic and seemed interesting
in terms of things I could take pictures of.
So, that's what I did. I snuck into Burma
and I hooked up with some students fighting
the Burmese government, which is a struggle
which is still going on today, obviously.
And I shot a story about them. And no one
ever checked my fake press pass. And then,
I sold that story.
I put it together and I sold it to this thing
called Channel One, which was a show seen
at high schools and middle schools throughout
the United States. Has anyone here had Channel
One in their--. One or two.
>>STEVE GROVE: Um-hmm. Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: It was big in the mid-west
and south. And then they still didn't hire
me full-time, so then I said, "OK. I'm gonna
go to Africa. I'm gonna go to ten different
countries. I guarantee you ten stories. It's
gonna cost you two thousand dollars a story
and here are the ten stories."
And I made up ten stories. I'd left high school
semester early and driven in a truck across
the sub-Sahara in Africa, so I was familiar
with Africa, or sub-Saharan Africa. And the
story I did was I went into Somalia in the
early days of the famine there, which was,
there was a famine back in '92.
And there's a famine now. But there was a
famine back in '92. I went there and that
was really the first real major breaking story
that I shot stories about. And it had a big
impact on the Channel One audience. I got
hired and that's how I became a reporter.
>>STEVE GROVE: So, Channel One was your start--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, it was absolutely
my start. And for the next two years, they
made me their, like I was their only travelling
foreign correspondent, war correspondent.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I just went from one war
to another. I was in Bosnia during the war
there. I was in Rwanda during the genocide
with RPF who were fighting to stop the genocide.
So, yeah.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, the news stories today
are obviously different than back then. Although,
certainly there are similarities. One of the
top voted questions, as I can recall--. Let
me see if I can dial it up. Yeah. Is about
today's news.
[plays video clip]
>>Girl: Hey, Anderson. I just read the Jared
Diamond book, "Collapse," which is about the
rise and fall of civilizations over time.
And as a reporter, my question to you is what
factors have you seen that's contributed to
the decline, or even fall, of modern-day nations,
which is, I think, more relevant than ever
with all the unrest going on in Africa and
the Middle East?
By the way, I really love your shows. I went
to last week's taping of Anderson and it was
really great. Keep up the good work.
[end clip]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, cool. All right. Cool.
That's nice. Wow, what factors have contributed
to the decline of civilizations?
[laughter]
Sure.
>>STEVE GROVE: The question that you should
be asking in your talk show every day.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yes, exactly. I have the
Beverly Hills Housewives on to talk about
that very subject as a matter of fact.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: We'll all tune in for that
one.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yes. Yes. Camille Grammer
has some fascinating ideas on this subject.
[laughter]
And I love Camille Grammer because she speaks
with her shoulders. I don't know if you've
noticed this. She's just like--. She says
these things like, "You're just jealous."
[laughter]
I love that. Love her.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Why don't you answer this question
using that style?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. Exactly. Look.
>>STEVE GROVE: The Middle East is the hot
spot right now. You've been covering this
every day, obviously.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I mean, obviously
you have these entrenched rulers in the Middle
East who have destroyed their countries. I
mean, you look at Libya right now.
There's only six million people in Libya.
Their school system is a nightmare. Their
hospital system, their health care system
is pathetic. The amount of money that Muammar
Gaddafi has made from oil in the 42 years
of his reign is extraordinary. And the fact
that he hasn't been able to adequately care
for six million people is unbelievable to
me.
And, I mean, it's not unbelievable because
he is a complete thug and the people around
him are thugs and liars and crooks, as are
most of these regimes. I mean, you look at
people around Hosni Mubarak. And up until
the very end they were lying. They were just
telling lies.
And I think it's extraordinary what we're
witnessing. I mean, every night now, pretty
much every night, I focus on what's happening
in Syria. And it's YouTube and its people
who are risking their lives to upload videos
that is the reason I'm able to continue to
do this story every night.
Because without those pictures, without those
images, we wouldn't be able to tell the story.
I mean, you can talk about the story, but
it will have no reality for people unless
you see those images. So, to me, we're living
in this extraordinary time of change.
And I mean, just what we're witnessing right
now in Libya, in Syria, I mean, I never thought
really that I would see this and that it would
happen so quickly. But I think a lot of it
has to do just with the arrogance of power.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: And I was just reading
this wonderful book by a Polish journalist
about Emperor Haile Selassie. It's called
"The Emperor." It's a great oral history.
>>STEVE GROVE: Mm-hmm.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: And just the way he, Haile
Selassie, who ruled Ethiopia many years ago,
he was able to manipulate and stay in power
by playing, very much like Gaddafi was able
to play tribes and others against each other.
So, I didn't really answer her question. But
I think it's too long and involved a question,
but--.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, it's interesting that
today's version of you in the early 90s might
not necessarily have to drop into a war zone
because there are--. There's footage streaming
out of there and onto the web all day long.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. Well, I still think
it's important to be able to go to a place
and see it for yourself, because you don't
know what these images really are. I mean,
in many cases we can't independently confirm
what some of these images show. Are some of
these people who are in plain clothes killing
people?
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah. It's the [inaudible].
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Or, do we know for a fact
that they are Syrian government thugs or are
they protesters who are attacking plain clothes
Syrian officers? We don't know in some cases.
But so, I do think it's important to go there.
And it really, going to the frontlines of
combat and conflict, it really does make you
see it in different--.
When I graduated college, I thought, with
my little Political Science degree, I thought
I knew what was going on. I had firmly held
opinions about the way the world worked. And
I started travelling and realizing I didn't
know anything. And the more you travel, I
think, it's a cliché, but the more you realize
the less you know.
>>STEVE GROVE: Right. The number one voted
question, and there was actually a lot of
questions of this flavor, was, "With all the
devastation in the world and all the stories
that you've covered, which one has been the
most difficult to cover and most difficult
to get out of your head?" This question actually
came from Germany.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: The most difficult to get
out of my head. I don't believe in getting
stories out of my head. I'm not, I don't believe
in coming back and trying to be able to sleep
well at night. I honestly think you should
carry these--to me they're not stories.
I mean, these are--. I'm interacting with
people who often end up dead or whose lives
have been unbelievably tormented. And so for
me, it's a huge privilege to be invited into
their home or into their hut or into their
lives and to tell their story. So--.
>>STEVE GROVE: Is there one story in particular
that sticks out?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I spent a lot of time in
the Congo. In the Eastern Congo there's a
horrific war. It's actually the deadliest
conflict since World War II. Millions of people
have been killed over the last ten years,
dying directly from combat, but also from
the after-effects of it--malnutrition and
hunger.
And it's really a war against women that tens
of thousands of women have been raped and
the majority of them have been brutally gang
raped. And you meet women in hospitals, who
after being gang raped by six soldiers have
had AK-47s inserted inside them, the guys
pull the trigger.
And they're alive, but their bodies are destroyed,
obviously. I met a woman named Angela who,
she had been gang raped by six soldiers, forcibly
raped in front of her family, in front of
her village. And they do this on purpose to
destroy the entire community by destroying
the community's women.
And they tried to force her brother to rape
her and he refused. And so they slit his throat
in front of her. She had three children. They
burned one of the children in front of her
while they were raping her. After they left,
her husband then kicked her out of the village
because he was afraid she was HIV-positive
and he was ashamed of her.
And yet, this was a woman who every day was
still able to wake up and hold her head high
and try to find a job and try to feed her
kids. And to me, she is--
>>STEVE GROVE: It's courage.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I mean, it's beyond
courage. It's hard to even fathom being able
to do all that. So, that's somebody who stays
with me when I close my eyes at night. And
I don't think I should get her out of my head.
I think those are people who should stay with
you.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah, yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: But in terms of hardest,
I mean, there are things that hard logistically,
like--
Egypt after and during the fall of Mubarak,
where--
>>STEVE GROVE: Right. Right.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: we're getting attacked,
reporters getting attacked.
>>STEVE GROVE: You got punched in the streets
of Tahrir Square, is that right?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. Which I've never
been punched in the head before and I was
always like, "I wonder what it would be like
to be punched in the head?" And now I know.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Life experience.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's right. But I was
very lucky. There was--
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: my person behind me shortly
afterwards, was stabbed in the back with a
screwdriver. Lara Logan was obviously attacked.
The Fox News crew was brutally beaten. But
there are things which make it logistically
very difficult for us to tell the story.
>>STEVE GROVE: Right. Right.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: When you're on the run,
you're hiding in hotel rooms or apartments
and trying to broadcast. And there are things
which emotionally are very difficult. And
Haiti, after the earthquake, was probably,
and Hurricane Katrina. Those were certainly
two situations that I'll never forget.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah. Well, one of the other
top voted questions had to do with, let me
see if I can find it here, [pause] umm, yeah.
You meet a lot of interesting people, many
of them in the places you just talked about.
This woman wants to know about who you'd most
like to meet with.
[plays video clip]
>>Woman: Hey, Anderson. My question for you
is, if you could have five people to dinner
with you, living, deceased, or fictional,
who would they be and why? Can't wait for
your new show. I love AC 360. Thanks a lot.
[end clip]
>>STEVE GROVE: You have a lot of fans out
there.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Wow. OK.
[clip starts playing again]
>>STEVE GROVE: Oops. Sorry.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Even better the second
time.
[laughter]
If I had a dinner party with five--. First
of all, I would never have a dinner party
because I'm a social recluse. And the idea
of having a dinner party is painful to me.
>>STEVE GROVE: Really?
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yes.
>>STEVE GROVE: TV guy is actually a social
recluse?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean,
I think it's 'cause I'm around people all
day when I work and stuff and I'm really engaged
with people and I really like talking to people
and stuff. But naturally, I tend to like,
at the party, not that I would be at a party,
but if I was at a party--
[laughter]
theoretically, I would be the guy in the kitchen
pretending I was looking for ice.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: You sound like a lot of Googlers
actually.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, that's right.
[laughter]
[clapping]
That's why I feel so comfortable here.
[laughter]
Yeah, that's funny. But literally, I can look
for ice for a good half hour.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Without finding it.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Without finding it. That's
why BlackBerrys are so great 'cause you're
like, "Oh, look. There's something very important
I'm doing."
[laughter]
But I guess, I don't really know how to answer
this question. I mean, honestly, if I'm answering
it honestly, I would--. My dad died when I
was ten and I never knew him. And my grandparents.
So, if I had to have five people over, I would
like to have my dad and the sets of grandparents
to just see what they were like. And I think
anyone who loses a parent at an early age,
you it really, it leaves a mark and really
changes who you are. And I think I was a much
more interesting person before I was ten.
So, I think I became much more serious and
much more independent and focused on work
and getting things done after my dad passed
away. So, it would be interesting to see what
he was like as an adult.
>>STEVE GROVE: The third voted text question
we got online--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I know I was probably supposed
to answer like, the Pope or something for
those questions.
>>STEVE GROVE: The honorable answer.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I don't know if you've
ever noticed when reporters get asked like,
"Who would you like to interview?" It's like,
"The Pope." Or,--.
>>STEVE GROVE: Jesus Christ.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. Yes.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: A good answer as well.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, all right.
[laughter]
I'll work on my answer.
>>STEVE GROVE: It was a good answer, a great
answer. You're usually the one asking the
questions, actually.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's true. I also, I
grew up in a really interesting family and
so we had a lot of well-known people over
at my house at dinner as a kid. So, I feel
like I've been to dinner parties with interesting
people and they're never as interesting as
you think they're gonna be.
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, really.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I mean, it's always
somewhat disappointing.
>>STEVE GROVE: That's good to know.
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, it's good to know.
>>STEVE GROVE: We'll make sure this woman
in I think it was Tennessee--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. Don't dream about
meeting famous people. They're very boring.
>>STEVE GROVE: It's not all it's cracked up
to be.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Exactly.
>>STEVE GROVE: You mentioned that you're not
super social. One of the, the third asked
question asks, "What do you do when you're
not on air?" So, what do you do for fun? And
I think the way they phrased it is, "What
gives you that 'ahh' moment?"
[laughter]
Ahh.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Wow. You committed to that.
I like that.
>>STEVE GROVE: I'm half-committed.
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, you half-committed,
but we can work on that. The--
[laughter]
What do I do? I really--. So, OK. So, I work
now. I basically do these two different jobs
and I also work for 60 Minutes on the side.
Most of my 60 Minutes work, I can only do
on weekends or on holidays, when I take vacation
from my other jobs 'cause I can't have my
60 Minutes work interfere with the other jobs.
So, I don't have a lot of free time because
honestly, I would much--. I really like what
I do and I would much rather go someplace
to do a story or to meet some people than
I would to go to a place and sit on a beach
or just take a vacation. To me--
>>STEVE GROVE: So, work is play in some ways
for you.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: In some ways, yeah. I mean,
for instance, I just went down to Cuba for
60 Minutes for a story that involved a lot
of diving. And it was, I would much rather
take a week of vacation from CNN in order
to do it. And previously, I had taken a week
of vacation from CNN to go to South Africa
with 60 Minutes and do a story on Great White
sharks.
And there's this guy who free dives and scuba
dives with Great White sharks without a cage.
So, he's like the only guy who does this.
So I was doing a profile of him. So, I went
scuba diving with him with the Great Whites
without a cage, which is kind of insane.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: It's not just kind of insane.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. It's actually amazing
and incredibly exhilarating. It's very surreal
when they'd been chumming the water with blood
for a good hour and then you see 6, 15- to
20-foot Great White sharks circling around
the boat. And you're like, "All right, time
to get in."
[laughter]
And I will say dipping your first finned toe
into the water is a little weird. So, I would
much rather go and do something like that
than just take a boring vacation. I'm really
bad on vacations.
I usually end up cancelling them or coming
back after three days 'cause I'm bored.
>>STEVE GROVE: Really?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I went to Buenos
Aires on vacation and I literally after three
days came back 'cause I didn't really know
anyone. And I was just like, I didn't know
what to do. So I came back.
[laughter]
But on the weekend I'm not working, I honestly,
the biggest thing I do is sleep.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I really, to me, sleep
is like the most precious commodity.
>>STEVE GROVE: You live in New York City,
right?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I do.
>>STEVE GROVE: How many--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Very close to here. I just
bought a firehouse very close to here.
>>STEVE GROVE: A firehouse?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I did, yes. An old--
>>STEVE GROVE: With firemen in it, or what?
[laughter]
I'm guessing they left, right?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yes. They left. We'll see
what happens, but--
[laughter]
It's a 1906 firehouse that was decommissioned
back in 2007 and it was empty.
>>STEVE GROVE: Really?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. And so, I'm moving
in soon.
>>STEVE GROVE: That's cool.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. It is cool.
>>STEVE GROVE: How many days a year do you
spend in New York City? I'm assuming you travel
all the time. Like, 50/50?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I really don't travel as
much, I think, as much as I used to. I'm usually
on the road maybe one week a month at the
most.
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, OK.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: There are times when the
earthquake in Haiti happened; I was there
for a month. And when Katrina happened, I
was there for a month. I was in Israel when
the fighting against Hezbollah happened.
But for the most part, my trips are in the
ten-day range.
>>STEVE GROVE: OK. I wanna invite the audience
to start thinking of questions and make it
to the mic when you can. But before that,
I wanna go through a rapid round of text questions.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, OK.
>>STEVE GROVE: The first one came from username
Ruegel853710.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, man. I love her. She's
so great.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah, she's the greatest, isn't
she?
[laughter]
Her question is, do you ever Google yourself?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Do I ever Google myself?
That's an interesting question. Yes, of course.
Nobody who says they don't Google themselves,
everybody Googles themselves from time to
time. But I will say I have drastically cut
it down over the last couple years--
[laughter]
and rarely ever now do it. And if I do it,
I'm like, "Don't do it." I have to talk myself
down sometimes. I'm like, "Don't do it." I
have like A-N-D-E in there and I'm like, "Don't
do it." And I'm like, R-S-O-N. And then I'm
like, "No, I'm not gonna do it."
[laughter]
My mom actually, when I was early on, she
was pretty well-known when I was a kid and
she would always say, "Never read anything
about yourself." And I think it's actually
really good advice.
It's very difficult advice to do, but if you're
able to do it its good because ultimately,
I find that, especially as a reporter, it
does me no good to think about myself as somebody
who's well-known. Like, I live--. I have this
illusion that I'm not well-known and that
I work on a TV show and I don't really think
about anybody actually seeing it.
And I'm always eternally surprised every day
on the street when people are saying "hello"
to me. And I think in my mind, I just think
like, "OK. People are just saying hi." It
doesn't really--
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Really?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I don't think--
>>STEVE GROVE: You don't wear like a low baseball
cap and--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Well, I do wear a baseball
cap. But I just don't think it's healthy to
think about yourself as a public person because
it just, it doesn't contribute to anything
about what I'm interested in my work.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah. Are you sensitive to
stuff you find online about yourself, if you
do actually complete it and push enter?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Not really. Look, I get--.
I do know rationally that I'm on television.
So, I get that there's gonna be a certain
level of interest.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: And so be it. And I appreciate
that people are interested. I'm generally
a lot more boring than people might like to
imagine. But it doesn't really bother me.
I mean,--
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, that's the web.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I've been doing this now
for 20 years. I know how the game is played.
I just, it doesn't bother me.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yeah.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: There's very little that
bothers me.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well then, you'd be good in
daytime TV, I would think.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's right. Exactly.
>>STEVE GROVE: I mean, go for it. Another
user in San Jose asks, "What's the weirdest,
most memorable fan encounter you've had?"
So when people do recognize you, what's the
weird stuff that happens?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Well there's like the restraining
order encounters that I--
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, really?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. There's a lot of
that.
>>STEVE GROVE: It happens a lot.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, a fair amount.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: Like, how many restraining
orders are there out right now?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I'm not sure how many are
current 'cause they elapse after a year.
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, OK.
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: And it depends on what
state you're talking about. But it's interesting.
It is interesting to me how people develop
a real relationship with you when you're on
television.
And I really like that and 99.9% of that relationship
is wonderful and people are incredibly nice.
Walking around New York City for me is like,
literally living in a small town. I literally
have conversations all day long with--. I
ride the subway every day.
Or, even if I'm on my bicycle when I'm stopped
at a light, people are talking, saying "hello"
to me and it's always very nice. And I love
it. And I encourage it. There are really people
who become very, very, very interested and
end up showing up at my home with all their
possessions to move in with me.
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, really? That happened?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, yeah.
>>STEVE GROVE: What do you say to them?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Well, the lady in particular
who came to live with me--
[laughter]
who, I think was probably about 55 or so.
She had been emailing me for a long time and
then she, which I had stopped reading the
emails and they were automatically forwarded
to the CNN security department, as you might
imagine.
But I thought someone was reading them, but
apparently no one was because then she showed
up at my apartment and then I went back and
I was like, "Well, maybe I should look at
some of the old emails." And she had announced
her intentions quite clearly.
In fact, she had said like, "I'm arriving
on the 8:30 flight, but don't worry about
picking me up at the airport." Which I thought
was very, very thoughtful of her.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: How kind.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yes.
>>STEVE GROVE: Very thoughtful.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: So that was probably one
of the more interesting ones. But there's
been--
>>STEVE GROVE: So you walk on your front door
and literally--
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Thankfully, I was not home
at the time.
>>STEVE GROVE: Oh, OK.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: But then she came to work,
so she made it easier.
>>STEVE GROVE: She found you.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, she found me. Yes.
>>STEVE GROVE: A question all the way from
Quitar, and let's please make it to the mic
if you have a question. We'd love to hear
your questions soon. The question is, "Best
person you've interviewed and why?"
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Hmm.
>>STEVE GROVE: Any particular interview?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I would, I mean, I mentioned
that woman, Angela. I mean, she was somebody
who stays with me. And so, it's generally
people like that who most people have never
heard of or wouldn't really know about. Celebrities,
this year I think I interviewed Lady Gaga
and Eminem for 60 Minutes and I found both
of them really interesting and enjoyed getting
to know them.
>>STEVE GROVE: What's Lady Gaga like in person?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Exactly what you would
imagine. She's really cool. She's 25 years
old, which is incredible that she's achieved
so much. And she is completely in charge of--.
She is driving that ship. I mean, she is,
I think, incredibly talented. I think she's
got an amazing voice and I think she's--.
I've enjoyed her.
>>STEVE GROVE: Do you listen to her?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. I totally listen
to her. I like her a lot. And it was just
cool that she's somebody you'd want to hang
out with. She was fun to hang out with.
>>STEVE GROVE: Cool. Well, let's take some
questions from the audience.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Sure.
>>STEVE GROVE: Over here.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #1: Hi.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Hey.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #1: So, I love your
show.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, thank you.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #1: And I wanna say
first, when you do your show I think it's
great when other entities move on to other
subjects, that you continue to stay in Haiti
or Japan or what have you and that's really
great.
I think one of the things that concerns me
most is how our government doesn't seem to
be in sync with the population, I think with
the debt ceiling and all that kind of stuff.
Regardless of what side you're on, we're all
going, "What's up with Washington?"
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #1: And so my first
thought was why isn't the media really separating
itself from the dog and pony show and really
forcing Washington, but then hearing you talk
about Syria and Egypt, it became clear to
me, we're not in as bad a shape obviously.
But the government here is not getting what
the people are wanting. So, what can we do
with social technologies that Americans aren't
using and what can the media do to help us?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Wow. That's interesting.
I mean, I think you're clearly, you're absolutely
right. If you look at just polling information,
it's not just whether it's Republicans or
Democrats. People are just sick of the whole
group. And they lump the group together.
And whether it's the President or Congress,
it's all of a piece. In terms of what social
media, I don't know. I think you guys probably
know that better than what I do. I'm still
figuring out my little YouTube channel.
[laughter]
But I do think social media--. I mean, I just
think the ability to have conversations and
link people from different walks of life together
in an online experience and give you direct
contact to people in Washington, I think is
a unique thing.
It used to be you'd have to write-in to your
Congressman or call them up. And you have
the ability now to have much more direct links
and communication with their offices with
them if they are online. And I think that
does really have an impact. I mean, I read
my viewers tweets and email comments and comments
on the YouTube channel.
I read them every single day, several times
a day. It's often the first thing I read waking
up in the morning after I read the news headlines
and the last thing I read going to bed to
respond to. And it really does have an impact.
I mean, I don't think you can underestimate
the impact hearing directly from people has.
>>STEVE GROVE: Great. Let's go over here.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: So, another question
about politics. Something that struck me as
really bizarre in the cable news world a couple
weeks ago was what the Ames Poll reported.
Like I mean, they would say, "First place
goes to so and so. Third place goes to so
and so. Fourth place goes to so and so." And
leaving out Ron Paul.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Ron Paul.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: And it's not even
like, not reporting on him, it's almost to
the point of pretending he doesn't exist and
it's just weird. Do you have any insight on
that?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I mean, I've had Ron Paul
on a lot and he’s' a great guest. And I've
had him on my show a number of times. So,
I've certainly heard that criticism and not
only Ron, but also a Senator Rand Paul on
as well. And I look to book him quite often
'cause I think he's got a really interesting
take on things.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: I don't mean to
criticize you personally.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I know, I know.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: I'm just wondering
what--.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I think certainly a lot
of; I don't want to speak for other networks.
I don't know how much of a conscious decision
that was. I really don't know. I mean, I didn't
see the other networks coverage of it and
stuff. But I know Ron Paul's been on CNN a
fair amount as far as I can tell.
But, and I don't want to sound like I'm copping
out on the answer, but I really don't watch
a lot of other folks coverage. I'm focused
on my little hour. It doesn't make any sense
why they would not and Ron Paul came in second
on that and has been not only the driving
force in the last election, but also a driving
force in the Tea Party Movement. He's the
grandfather of it, if anything.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: You don't know
is basically.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. Right.
[laughter]
There's no memo like going around.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #2: No, it's--. All
right. That's cool.
[laughter]
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Sorry.
>>STEVE GROVE: Good question. Let's go over
here.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #3: The control of
information has changed deeply in the last
decade with the internet rising, every neighborhood
can transmit information and tweets and everything
and whatnot. What do you see as the future
of news media, who's long held this information
or control of it as they're now--things are
changing?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #3: What you see as
their future--.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Well, I hope you put a
stop to this.
[laughter]
I'm kidding.
>>STEVE GROVE: You're here to shut down Google
today, is that what you're saying?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Exactly. Yes. This is all
part of my insidious plot. While you've all
been away from your workstations--.
[laughter]
You've all been locked out and fired.
[laughter]
I really don't know and that's, I think, what's
exciting. It's scary for some people, but
I find it exciting. And I think, how will
the sharing of information change things?
Will we need broadcast networks? Will we need
cable networks, news networks? Will everything
be online? Will we need television anchors?
That's why I'm getting a day job, frankly,
in case that happens.
[laughter]
But I do think that's, I think anyone who
pretends to know where its going has no idea.
I mean, I've talked to the people who run
these companies and I don't think they have
a firm grasp of exactly where it's going.
So, I think right now, I can tell you CNN
has certainly trying to be on as many platforms
as possible, on as many delivery systems as
possible, to see what comes down the pike
and which one explodes, which one goes away.
I do think that we're able to get information
from more sources than ever before and I think
that's been a fantastic thing. There's a danger,
I think, in it in not knowing where the information
really is coming from and being in this echo
chamber where something is inserted online,
something appears online and then it's picked
up by other, and it becomes real even though
it's not real.
And so, I do think it matters where the information
comes from and whether that information has
been checked and vetted. We all know it. We've
all seen in Presidential elections and just
in news in general how stories take on a life
of their own.
I don't know if you remember the story about
President Obama going to India recently and
there was this story going around that his
trip was gonna cost, I don't know, it was
like 200 million dollars a day, or something.
And it was being repeated on radio stations,
especially conservative radio stations, but
on television stations and it became--.
I have Michelle Bachman on my program saying
this as fact. And I was like, "Where does
this figure come from?" And she was like,
"Well, it's being reported in the media."
Which, that doesn't mean anything. That's
like saying, "I found it on the street."
[laughter]
So, we started checking and going back and
we traced it back to an unnamed Indian provincial
government official quoted in a local Indian
paper. So, the credibility of that is, it
just doesn't mean anything.
Why would a provincial Indian government official,
unnamed, in a local paper know how much President
Obama's security costs were when the White
House doesn't even release that information?
And the war in Iraq costs, I don't know, 190
million dollars. So, it just didn't make any
sense.
So, we were able to just debunk that, but
it had taken on a life of its own. So, I do
think it's important, even in this age where
information is more easily shared and more
easily accessible, that even no matter where
it goes, that I think there will be some need
for, I don't wanna say gate keepers but for
vetting the information. And how that happens,
whether you need the companies that currently
exist or whether it's some kind of new structure
or just individuals who are responsible. I
mean, I go to websites that I think I'd trust
or I think I value the opinion of the person
who's running those websites and I think they
have certain standards.
And I think everybody has to come up in their
own mind with what they believe and what sources
they actually trust.
>>STEVE GROVE: Let's go over here.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: I'm one of the
folks in the audience who watched you on Channel
One.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Oh, cool.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: In middle school,
so it's cool to have you here.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Where did you go to school?
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: In Western Pennsylvania.
So when you said the Midwest, it makes a lot
of sense. 'Cause nobody around here seems
to know what Channel One is.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. Exactly. [laughing]
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: So, one of my favorite
tweets from the earthquake yesterday, big
deal here, came from a sports writer. I think
he said, "Wolf Blitzer has the earthquake
on the phone." Which is a little bit of a
criticism about the 24-hour news cycle and
really trying to create stories out of what
is there.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: But your side work
at 60 Minutes really stands out to me because
it's way more about those stories that do
have permanence, the stories that stick with
you individually. So, I'm interested in how
you see things changing, if you see anything
changing at 60 Minutes with your involvement?
Some folks who are under the age of 60 are
getting involved over there.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: And how it's possible
that social media or citizen journalism feeds
into the stories that have some of that permanence?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. I mean, I do think.
Look, I think 60 Minutes is more relevant
and over the last few years has been more
relevant than perhaps ever before.
And I think it's a testament to Jeff Fager
and Bill Owens and the producers who are there.
I mean, it really, they've been breaking stories.
I mean, I think it's the best television news
magazine show on the air that has ever been
and certainly is on currently.
And so, for me to work there, to walk around
and see Morley Safer and Bob Simon and all
these correspondents who I have great respect
for and to learn from their producers and
being able to learn from them is an extraordinary
thing. And I still think I'm getting better
at it and need to--.
I still think I'm learning and that's what
makes it so exciting. But I think it's interesting
how 60 Minutes has started to try to incorporate
online. I mean, 60 Minutes is, CBS in general
is a very established, traditional outlet,
company. They're very slow to--. A lot of
these companies are slow to really adapt and
figure out online components and things.
60 Minutes has actually done--. They actually
have a full-time correspondent now who's excellent,
who creates--. There's this thing, 60 Minutes
Overtime, which exists only online. And it's
all the interesting stuff that never actually
makes it into a 60 Minutes piece.
It's the back story of how the piece was made.
And for instance, with Eminem, we showed how
just doing a walk--. On 60 Minutes and a lot
of more traditional outlets, they do these
walking shots, which are cheesy. It's like
the correspondent and the person walking down
the street.
And just in order to shoot this walking shot
with Eminem, it required this huge security
undertaking 'cause it was at the home where
he grew up. And his whole entourage is there
and there's elaborate security detail and
they had to rope off the block. So, it was
all the back story on a lot of this stuff.
And it's actually the more fun moments which
don't make it, naturally, into a 60 Minutes
piece, but you get value added if you're interested.
So, I think, for me, it seems like the networks
right now, that's the use they see of these
in trying to again, build a community and
build a sense of connection to a show like
that.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #4: Thanks.
>>STEVE GROVE: Yep.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #5: Hi, Anderson. Thank
you for coming to Google. Back in October,
I went to this little rally that was down
in D.C. and there was you, not you directly,
but your clothing was a feature of the rally.
They gave your black t-shirt an award.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: My black t-shirt, yes.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #5: I was wondering
what you thought about the role that you place
as a feedback system in in the media with
fear and with the things that they were counting
on, do you think that the business is legitimate?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah John actually asked
me to go to that and I would've like to. I
actually couldn't 'cause I was working, but--
>>STEVE GROVE: The rally to restore fear at
the mall, right?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right. Yes, yes, yes. Look,
first of all, I wear a black t-shirt or a
dark t-shirt because--. The back story is
that there's no real thought to it other than
you're not able to shower in a lot of places
and you're working in like, hundred degree
temperatures.
So, you're sweaty and dirty and rather than
having viewers email me saying, "Why are you
showing us your sweat stains?" I wear a dark
t-shirt so that nobody sees my sweat stains.
But it has certainly taken on a life of its
own and I think it's funny. So, I don't think
I'm in any way trying to put fear into anybody's
heart or into anybody's head.
If anything, I mean, I think for me the reason
to go down to Haiti and be there after the
earthquake is not to--. It's not a story that
people are necessarily wanting to watch or
are going to watch. I was just in Somalia
for a week. That's not a story.
CNN doesn't send me to Somalia because they
think people are gonna want to watch it, or
that people are even going to watch it. And
they're not because those are things people
turn the channels from. But I do believe in
bearing witness to what's happening and I
do believe in giving a voice to people who
have none.
And in Haiti, for generations, people have
not had a voice or they had their voice silenced
or taken away from them. And especially after
an earthquake, where the Haitian government
is completely unable to even dig people out
of the rubble or even are unwilling to. I
do think there's value in being there and
trying to show the rest of the world what
is happening to a group of people.
So for me, I don't think--. I certainly don't
think consciously, or even unconsciously,
I'm trying to in any way make people fearful.
I do believe in bearing witness to struggles
that other people aren't. And I've believed
in that from the first time I went to Burma
and talked to students.
It's not a conflict anyone seems to really
care much about, or not a lot people care
much about. But I think it's valuable to be
there. I think it's valuable to give people
voice.
>>STEVE GROVE: Great.
>>MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #5: Thank you so much
for explaining.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #6: So speaking of
fashion, I wanted to know how your beautiful
mother was and if you share her love of fashion
and what she thinks of you swimming in these
shark infested waters.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: My mom is good. My mom
is Gloria Vanderbilt and she's 87 and she's
great. She's in really good health. And she--.
I do not share her interest in fashion. I
could care less about it. It really doesn't
interest me. I hate shopping.
I always, for some reason, I still think when
I go into a store people think I'm stealing
something. Does anybody else have this? I'm
convinced the sales people think I'm stealing
something. And I literally feel like I have
to demonstrate to them like, "I'm looking
at this shirt now."
[laughter]
I don't know why I feel this. I hope to work
this out at my daytime show. She's gotten
used to me going off and doing weird things.
I mean, I said I left high school early and
drove across sub-Saharan Africa in a truck.
And I had been doing survival courses as a
very young kid before that in the wilderness
for like, months at a time. So, she had gotten
used to this idea and she's really sweet about
it 'cause I lie to her all the time when I'm
away. I was in Egypt and I was like, "I'm
just gonna hang out by the pool in the hotel
today."
And then, half an hour later I'm getting beat
up by thugs. And so--
>>STEVE GROVE: Does your mom watch YouTube?
'Cause she'll see this.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I know. Yes, I know. She
knows about it by now. 'Cause then I'll have
to call her up and be like, "All right. So
I decided not to hang out by the pool and
I went outside and these people hit me in
the head. And you're gonna see it on TV, but
it doesn't look as bad."
I always it doesn't, it wasn't as bad as it
looks on TV, which is also not true 'cause
it's usually worse. But.
[laughter]
>>STEVE GROVE: You're digging a hole.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah, but she's--. What's
remarkable about my mom is that she has never
asked me not to do something. I mean, from
the time I was very little, even doing very
extreme things, she was very supportive of
it and if she felt I was really passionate
about it.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #6: Thank you.
>>STEVE GROVE: Let's go over here.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #7: I have a question
about how you put your show together. How
you decide at what stories to bring because
sometimes it's the more broad political agendas
and then other times it goes much more into
being almost sensational news.
So, how do you make these decisions? Or, is
it just you or the guidance at CNN?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: There's not really any
guidance from CNN. I mean, I generally do
things which I'm interested in, which I think
other people are gonna be interested in. And
it's a combination. And every day, we sit
around all day thinking of what are we gonna
do today.
And we try to start off the broadcast, if
there's not breaking news, with--. We have
branded it at keeping it honest, but it basically
is what I think all reporters should be doing,
which is basically just seeing public statements
that have been made and then holding people
accountable for those statements if they're
correct or not, like the Obama trip to India
costs thing.
So, we usually try to lead off the broadcast
with a keeping them honest report if we don't
have some breaking news. But something like
Syria is something I'm very passionate about
and I think is important. And very few people
on television news are covering it on a regular
sustained basis.
And I think it's important that it get covered.
I had the idea that if you have thousands
of people who are standing out for their dignity,
being shot to death in the streets by their
own government, I think is abhorrent and deserves
coverage. Certainly there's some times there's
stories that I may not be personally all that
interested in, or that I think are all that
important in a geopolitical sense, but that
people are just genuinely interested.
And look at the Casey Anthony trial. That's
a story that people were fascinated with and
for all the people who say they weren't interested
in it, half of those people were still watching
it. And you're in a news business and my job
is not to tell people to eat their broccoli
every single night.
Sometimes, if someone's interested in a story
and there's a high viewer interest in it,
I'll do that story if we think we can do it
in an intelligent way. So, we try not to be
sensationalistic about stuff. And I don't
know if there's something specific that you're
referencing, but certainly everybody's responsible
just for their own little program and I can't
take credit or responsibility for what else
is on cable news.
But on my program, we try very hard not to
focus on stuff that's sensational. And what
we found, frankly, over the years is that
for a CNN viewer, they're really not interested
in sensational stories. I mean, if somebody's
really, really interested in crime stories,
they can go to Nancy Grace on HLN.
She covers what she covers. Or, they could
go to some of the other shows on HLN or elsewhere.
Or, if they're interested in celebrity interviews,
they go to Pierce Morgan. People don't really
come to me for that on CNN. They come now
because of the accountability things and also
a lot of foreign coverage.
So, I'm happy that I have that niche and that
viewers are actually coming for that. And
so, that's what I'm able to do.
>>FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER #7: Thanks.
>>STEVE GROVE: We have time for one more question
over here.
>>Male Audience Member #8: Speaking on the
topic of where you think things might be going,
or how you'd like them to go, but particularly
in the developing world where sometimes you're
covering the stories, do you think that what
we see with Twitter and YouTube and these
kind of things is making the kind of impact
it could and the affected populations in these
areas?
Are they getting the benefit of increased
coverage,
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Right.
>>Male Audience Member #8: or is it more just
to have people watching?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I think it's hard to generalize.
I mean, I think it depends on each situation.
But I think certainly some places in Haiti--.
I mean, in Haiti for instance, in the wake
of the earthquake there were a lot of folks
online who were obviously very concerned and
wanted to be involved and were trying to help
spread information.
Like, "This person is trapped in this building."
And I would get these tweets. I would get
these emails. I mean, thousands of them every
single day while I was down in Haiti for that
month. And 99% of them are very well-intentioned.
A lot of them are just this echo chamber of
somebody else has put this email out there.
And it's been picked up by ten other concerned
people and then it's been forwarded and it's
taken on a life of its own. And it grows in
hysteria to the point where you get an email
from a very serious sounding person who's
saying there are kids who are crushed and
starving in this orphanage and they're at
28, and they give the address, and you drive
for half a day to get there only to learn
that actually the kids are fine here.
It's not a great situation, but they have
enough food for two or three weeks and it's
not what it was made into. And we've had a
number of those situations where we've actually
responded to things which came to us with
the best of intentions. So, it can be an issue.
It can also be somebody trapped underneath
a house can send out an email and their loved
one can see it and relief can come, help can
come. And that has happened as well. So, it's
a case by case basis. But I do think overall,
I mean, it’s incredible, positive, that
I think any way you can engage people, any
way you can get people to focus on--.
Everyone's so busy and they don't have time
necessarily to even sit and watch a news clip.
But to read a headline online that maybe spurs
them to do something. Or, there's just extraordinary
things being done by Google and on Google
and by YouTube, helping people coordinate
and helping people organize and I mean, I
know people from Google who went down to Haiti
and I don't know what they were doing, but
something on the computer to help--
[laughter]
I'm a total Luddite. I'm there with my quill
pen and I see them with laptops, but to help
data storage and to help organize what stuff
is coming in and what's going out. I mean,
that's incredible.
And it really is revolutionizing the way aid
is delivered. And it can really revolutionize
things and I think it's incredibly exciting
to see because it really does have an impact
on the ground. I mean, just one quick example.
I was in Haiti when eight days after the quake,
a woman, an elderly woman, I think she was
in her 70s was found alive, trapped by a building
near the Cathedral.
She had been trapped under the wreckage for
eight days. And it was incredible that she
was still alive. And she gets pulled out by
some South African and Mexican search and
rescue people, but they were so excited and
elated that they pulled her out, no one had
thought of the next step of, "Well, what do
we do with her now?"
And there were no real--. Her pelvis was crushed,
I think. Part of her leg was crushed. And
she needed life support and she needed surgery
immediately. And there was no place to take
her. And they had no knowledge of where there
was a doctor who could actually perform the
kind of surgery she needed.
And we ended up, I mean, me, my team of two
other people ended up in this weird position
where we found ourselves with her in the back
of our truck, on a stretcher, trying to mobilize
people online and mobilize resources over
the phone that we could bring her to.
And we ended up getting her on board a US
Coast Guard helicopter that landed on the
Presidential Palace that had been destroyed.
And my producer is on the front lawn waving
the chopper in with his BlackBerry light.
And I mean, that shouldn't happen. And so,
the ability to connect people who are on the
ground, 'cause when you're on the ground you
have no way of really sharing information.
And I think that's the next step--the ability
for in real-time, people who are on the ground
to connect information and connect resources.
That would be an extraordinary step.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, Anderson. Thanks for
coming today.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Cool. Thank you.
[applause]
>>STEVE GROVE: Before we let you go, we want
to give you an essential pair of YouTube tube
socks.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: That's fine. That's great.
>>STEVE GROVE: I'm sure you'll wear them the
next time you're out here.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: I will. I'll wear them
with my black t-shirt. Thank you.
>>STEVE GROVE: Your talk show start September
12th.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yep.
>>STEVE GROVE: Monday. If people here wanted
to go watch it, how could they get the tickets?
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Go to andersoncooper.com.
They're free. It's actually a fun experience.
They should.
>>STEVE GROVE: Well, good luck.
>>ANDERSON COOPER: Yeah. Thanks very much.
I appreciate it.
>>STEVE GROVE: Thanks again.
[applause]
