PUBLIC. CLEARLY SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE
CLEARLY SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.
MADE. >> DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
>> DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO
TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THIS HEARING TODAY.
THIS HEARING TODAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW BOTH SIDES
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW BOTH SIDES HANDLED IT?
HANDLED IT? >> REPUBLICANS, STARTING WITH
>> REPUBLICANS, STARTING WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM, USED THIS IG
LINDSEY GRAHAM, USED THIS IG REPORT TO TAINT THE ENTIRE
REPORT TO TAINT THE ENTIRE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION AND THEY
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION AND THEY DREW IN THESE INFLAMMATORY TEXTS
DREW IN THESE INFLAMMATORY TEXTS FROM FBI AGENCIES PETER STRZOK
FROM FBI AGENCIES PETER STRZOK AND LISA PAGE WHO WERE HAVING AN
AND LISA PAGE WHO WERE HAVING AN AFFAIR AND HE MUDDIED THE WATER
AFFAIR AND HE MUDDIED THE WATER AND SUGGESTED THESE PROBLEMS
AND SUGGESTED THESE PROBLEMS WITH THE PAGE FISA TAINTED THE
WITH THE PAGE FISA TAINTED THE WHOLE INVESTIGATION WHERE AS
WHOLE INVESTIGATION WHERE AS HOROWITZ WAS VERY CLEAR, THAT’S
HOROWITZ WAS VERY CLEAR, THAT’S NOT THE CASE.
NOT THE CASE. THESE ARE TWO DISCREET ISSUES.
THESE ARE TWO DISCREET ISSUES. THE INVESTIGATION WAS LEGITIMATE
THE INVESTIGATION WAS LEGITIMATE AND WAS JUSTIFIED HE FOUND AND
AND WAS JUSTIFIED HE FOUND AND THE FBI FOLLOWED THE RULES.
THE FBI FOLLOWED THE RULES. HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW
HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THEY USED INFORMANTS.
THEY USED INFORMANTS. DEMOCRATS SOUGHT TO DRAW THAT
DEMOCRATS SOUGHT TO DRAW THAT ASPECT OUT OF IT AND THEY
ASPECT OUT OF IT AND THEY POINTED OUT THAT HOROWITZ HAD NO
POINTED OUT THAT HOROWITZ HAD NO QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ABOUT THE
QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ABOUT THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE ROBERT
CONCLUSIONS OF THE ROBERT MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL
MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. HE WASN’T QUESTIONING WHETHER
HE WASN’T QUESTIONING WHETHER RUSSIA INTERFERED AND HE WASN’T
RUSSIA INTERFERED AND HE WASN’T SUPPORTING THE MORE INFLAMMATORY
SUPPORTING THE MORE INFLAMMATORY THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS
THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF THIS IS A
SAYING IN TERMS OF THIS IS A DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY, THE WORD
DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY, THE WORD SCUM WAS USED, DISAVOWED THAT
SCUM WAS USED, DISAVOWED THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE AND IT WAS
KIND OF LANGUAGE AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT
ABSOLUTELY PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT OUT THERE WITH MOST SIDES SEEING
OUT THERE WITH MOST SIDES SEEING IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
IT A DIFFERENT WAY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHY IS
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHY IS IT SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
IT SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE REPUBLICANS TO PROVE A POLITICAL
REPUBLICANS TO PROVE A POLITICAL BIAS TO TRUMP AND THE RUSSIA
BIAS TO TRUMP AND THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. WHY IS THIS STILL SO IMPORTANT?
WHY IS THIS STILL SO IMPORTANT? >> WHAT I FIND AND I SEE IT ON
>> WHAT I FIND AND I SEE IT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEED, THERE’S AN
MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEED, THERE’S AN OUTRAGE IN THE LAND, ON THE
OUTRAGE IN THE LAND, ON THE RIGHT, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
RIGHT, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE
MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE MECHANISMS OF GOVERNMENT,
MECHANISMS OF GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING THIS POWERFUL SECRET
INCLUDING THIS POWERFUL SECRET SURVEILLANCE WAS USED
SURVEILLANCE WAS USED INAPPROPRIATELY AGAINST DONALD
INAPPROPRIATELY AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.
TRUMP. THAT THIS WAS A DEEP-STATE
THAT THIS WAS A DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY TO TWIST THE
CONSPIRACY TO TWIST THE GOVERNMENT AND THE FBI INTO
GOVERNMENT AND THE FBI INTO INVESTIGATING AND SOME SENATORS
INVESTIGATING AND SOME SENATORS ACTUALLY SAID THAT TODAY.
ACTUALLY SAID THAT TODAY. THEY SUGGESTED THAT THE DNC GOT
THEY SUGGESTED THAT THE DNC GOT THE FBI TO DO THIS.
THE FBI TO DO THIS. AND SO THAT IS THE PASSION THEY
AND SO THAT IS THE PASSION THEY BRING TO THIS ISSUE.
BRING TO THIS ISSUE. THERE REALLY ISN’T ANY EVIDENCE
THERE REALLY ISN’T ANY EVIDENCE FOR THAT AND THE LATEST REPORT
FOR THAT AND THE LATEST REPORT TO FIND NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL
TO FIND NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIASSED ON THIS INVESTIGATION.
BIASSED ON THIS INVESTIGATION. >> KEN, SOMETHING WENT ON TODAY
>> KEN, SOMETHING WENT ON TODAY THAT WE’VE BEEN SEEING SO OFTEN.
THAT WE’VE BEEN SEEING SO OFTEN. A NAME BECOMES A HOUSEHOLD NAME,
A NAME BECOMES A HOUSEHOLD NAME, MICHAEL HOROWITZ, FOR EXAMPLE, A
MICHAEL HOROWITZ, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN’T KNOW WHO HE
LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN’T KNOW WHO HE WAS UNTIL TODAY.
WAS UNTIL TODAY. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIM?
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIM? >> HE’S A FORMER PROSECUTOR.
>> HE’S A FORMER PROSECUTOR. HE’S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER.
HE’S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. HE’S WORKED FOR PRESIDENTS IN
HE’S WORKED FOR PRESIDENTS IN BOTH PARTIES.
BOTH PARTIES. HE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT
HE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HE’S DONE SOME TOUGH
OBAMA AND HE’S DONE SOME TOUGH INVESTIGATIONS.
INVESTIGATIONS. WE DID A STORY ABOUT HOW
WE DID A STORY ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING
DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING THAT HE REALLY HASN’T TAKEN ON
THAT HE REALLY HASN’T TAKEN ON TRUMP APPOINTEES, JEFF SESSIONS
TRUMP APPOINTEES, JEFF SESSIONS OR ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR.
OR ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR. HE POINTED OUT TODAY THAT HE’S
HE POINTED OUT TODAY THAT HE’S THE ONLY INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO
THE ONLY INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO HAS THIS KIND OF RULE THAT
HAS THIS KIND OF RULE THAT PROHIBITS HIM FROM INVESTIGATING
PROHIBITS HIM FROM INVESTIGATING THE CONDUCT OF ATTORNEYS.
THE CONDUCT OF ATTORNEYS. AND HE WAS ASKING SENATORS TO
AND HE WAS ASKING SENATORS TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW HIM TO
CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW HIM TO INVESTIGATE.
INVESTIGATE. THERE’S THIS COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM
THERE’S THIS COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM THAT HE HAS NOT TAKEN ON THE
THAT HE HAS NOT TAKEN ON THE TOUGH FIGHTS WITH DONALD TRUMP
TOUGH FIGHTS WITH DONALD TRUMP AND TRUMP APPOINTEES, ALLISON.
AND TRUMP APPOINTEES, ALLISON. >> HE DID SAY TODAY THAT THIS
>> HE DID SAY TODAY THAT THIS REPORT DOESN’T VINDICATE
REPORT DOESN’T VINDICATE ANYBODY.
ANYBODY. SO WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY FROM
SO WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS HEARING?
THIS HEARING? >> WELL, ONE, THAT THERE ARE
>> WELL, ONE, THAT THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE FBI’S
SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE FBI’S FISA PROCESS OF GETTING THESE
FISA PROCESS OF GETTING THESE NATIONAL SECURITY WARRANTS,
NATIONAL SECURITY WARRANTS, ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT SECONDLY, THERE REMAINS NO
BUT SECONDLY, THERE REMAINS NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIAS IN
EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIAS IN THE OPENING OF THIS RUSSIA
THE OPENING OF THIS RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. IT WAS LEGITIMATE.
IT WAS LEGITIMATE. THEY WERE CONCERNED AND THEY
THEY WERE CONCERNED AND THEY FOUND N CASE FOR CRIMINAL
FOUND N CASE FOR CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE TRUMP
CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA AND ALL
CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA AND ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE GLAD ABOUT
AMERICANS SHOULD BE GLAD ABOUT THAT, THAT’S THE TAKEAWAY, IN MY
THAT, THAT’S THE TAKEAWAY, IN MY VIEW, ALLISON.
VIEW, ALLISON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU BET, THANKS.
>> YOU BET, THANKS. >>> TODAY SENATE HEARING GAVE
>>> TODAY SENATE HEARING GAVE REPUBLICANS A CHANCE TO SEIZE ON
REPUBLICANS A CHANCE TO SEIZE ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS ON TYPICAL
DIFFERENT ASPECTS ON TYPICAL FINDINGS BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP
FINDINGS BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP HASN’T SAID MUCH ABOUT THE
HASN’T SAID MUCH ABOUT THE REPORT OR THE HEARING TODAY.
REPORT OR THE HEARING TODAY. NBC’S KELLY O’DONNELL IS AT THE
NBC’S KELLY O’DONNELL IS AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND, KELLY, HAS THE
WHITE HOUSE AND, KELLY, HAS THE PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN AT ALL ON
PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN AT ALL ON TODAY’S TESTIMONY?
TODAY’S TESTIMONY? >> JUST A LITTLE ON TWITTER
>> JUST A LITTLE ON TWITTER WHERE HE SAYS HIS CAMPAIGN WAS
WHERE HE SAYS HIS CAMPAIGN WAS SPIED UPON.
SPIED UPON. BUT LARGELY, LEAVING THE LANE
BUT LARGELY, LEAVING THE LANE OPEN FOR HIS REPUBLICAN ALLIES
OPEN FOR HIS REPUBLICAN ALLIES ON CAPITOL HILL WHO HAVE BEEN
ON CAPITOL HILL WHO HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE REPORT AND
GOING THROUGH THE REPORT AND DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO TRY TO
DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO TRY TO BRING TO LIGHT THE ARGUMENTS
BRING TO LIGHT THE ARGUMENTS THEY WISH TO MAKE ON THIS REPORT
