ROLLBACK OF GOVERNMENT
REGULATIONS.
WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED WHEN
THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THAT ORDER.
SOLEDAD: AT VERMONT'S MIDD
BARRY COLLEGE, LIBERTARIAN
CHARLES MURRAY WAS THE CENTER OF
A PROTEST THAT ENDED WITH HI
BEING SHUNTED OFF THE STAGE.
HE'S THE AUTHOR OF THE
CONTROVERSIAL BOOK "THE BELL
CURVE," WHICH WAS SLAMMED BY
CRITICS FOR PROMOTING THE THEORY
OF A LINK BETWEEN INTELLIGENCE
AND RACIAL OR ETHNIC IDENTITY.
MURRAY WAS ON CAMPUS TO TALK
ABOUT HIS RECENT BOOK, "COMI
APART," WHICH FOCUSES ON THE
STATE OF WHITE AMERICA BETWEEN
1960 AND 2010.
THE PROTEST IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF THE UGLY AND PHYSICAL
CONFRONTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
TAKING PLACE IN THE DEBATE
OVER'S -- OVER FREE SPEECH.
JAY PARANI IS AN ENGLI
PROFESSOR AT MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE.
HE JOINS US FROM VERMONT
THANKS FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS.
PROF. PARANI: THANKS F
TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SOLEDAD: YOU SAID YOU WERE
HORRIFIED BY WHAT HAPPENED ON
THE CAMPUS.
TELL ME WHY.
PROF. PARANI: I HAVEN'T SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
I REALIZED, SOMETHING HORRIBLE
IS GOING ON HERE.
STUDENTS NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND
BE TAUGHT WHAT IT MEANS 
UNDERSTAND FREE SPEECH IN AN
ACADEMIC INSTITUTION, WHAT THIS
IS ALL ABOUT.
SOLEDAD: I DO WONDER, WHEN W
TALK ABOUT FREE SPEECH, OFTEN IT
IS FRAMED AROUND YOUR ABILITY TO
ARTICULATE OPINIONS WITHOUT
GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP OR WITHOUT
THE GOVERNMENT RETALIATING
AGAINST YOU.
IF I CAN PLAY DEVILS ADVOCAT
FOR A MOMENT, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
SAY, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
A RIGHT TO A STAGE AT
MIDDLEBURY.
PROF. PARANI: THIS IS THE WA
FREE DISCUSSION WORKS.
I CONSIDER IT TO THE BASELINE
FOR ANY ACADEMIC INQUIRY, FOR AN
ACADEMIC VILLAGE, THAT WE ALLOW
PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS
TO SPEAK.
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T APPROVE 
MARIE, I GRANT HIM HIS RIGHT TO
FREE SPEECH.
SOLEDAD: I ALWAYS WONDER, AND I
THINK WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IN
JOURNALISM, IF YOU GIVE SOMEBODY
A PLATFORM, TO SOME DEGREE, YOU
ARE SAYING, WE BELIEVE YOUR
IDEAS ARE IMPORTAN
ISN'T IT INHERENT IN THAT A
CHALLENGE TO NAVIGATE?
PROF. PARANI: IT'S A TERRIBL
CHALLENGE.
WE CONFRONTED IT EVERY DAY OF
THE WEEK.
THERE ARE SPEAKERS ON THIS
CAMPUS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK
THROUGHOUT THE ACADEMIC YEAR.
THEY REPRESENT A WIDE VARIETY 
VIEWPOINTS, MORAL VIEWPOINTS.
LOTS OF ETHICAL QUESTIONS ARE
RAISED HERE EVERY DAY.
IT'S PERFECTLY RESPONSIBLE TO
HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE MURRAY COME
AND GIVE A TALK, EVEN THOU
IT'S A CHALLENGE TO MANY PEOPLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE
TEACHING IN AN INSTITUTION LIKE
THIS IS HOW TO LISTEN, HOW TO
NOT RESPOND VIOLENTLY.
YOUR QUESTION POSES SOMETHING
VERY IMPORTANT HERE.
WHAT DO WE DO?
IT'S A SEPARATE QUESTION HERE.
WHY ARE STUDENTS SO UPSET ABOUT
MURRAY THAT THEY WOULD BEHAVE 
THIS BARBAROUS WAY?
WE ARE LIVING IN EXTREME
UNCIVIL AND DIFFICULT TIME
THE NATIONAL POLITICAL DISCOURSE
IS LOUD, NOISY, AND BULLYING.
I THINK WE CAN BE AT A POINT I
HISTORY TO SAY, OK, STUDENTS
SHOUTED DOWN A SPEAKER THEY
DIDN'T LIKE WITH.
WE MUST STOP SHOUTING.
WE MUST NEVER NOT ALLOW PEOP
TO NOT HAVE THEIR SAY.
SOLEDAD: I THINK YOU HIGHLIGHT
IT PRETTY WELL, WHICH IS, YOU
SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK
BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO
PROTEST.
CLEARLY NOT A VIOLENT PROTEST,
BUT THOSE TWO THINGS KIND OF
CLASH, IF YOU WILL, ON T
MIDDLEBURY CAMPUS.
PROF. PARANI: YEAH.
I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY IF I H
HEARD THAT THE STUDENTS CAME
INTO THIS FALL, 200 OF THEM, AND
WHEN MR. MURRAY BEGAN TO SPEAK,
THEY QUIETLY TURNED THEIR BACKS
ON HIM.
I WOULD HAVE BEEN UPLOADING.
-- APPLAUDING.
SHOUTING HIM DOWN, PULLING FIRE
ALARMS?
PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN WHAT IS
POSSIBLE WITHIN A DEMOCRACY
WHERE WE VALUE FREE SPEECH, AND
ESPECIALLY ON A CAMPUS.
SOLEDAD: I ALWAYS WONDER IF 
