SIGNED PETER 'HAS GREAT STORY
THERE, THE STEEL STACKS IN
BETHLEHEM, PENNSYLVANIA.
WE ARE BACK WITH OUR TOWN HALL
AND BERNIE SANDERS.
>> Bret: LET'S TAKE SUMMER
QUESTIONS FROM OUR AUDIENCE.
>> Martha: WE'RE GOING TO GO
TO RODNEY.
RODNEY, HI, RODNEY, WHAT YOUR
QUESTION FOR SENATOR SANDERS?
>> THANK YOU.
MY QUESTION FOR SENATOR SANDERS
HERE IS HOW WOULD YOU BRING BACK
JOBS IN INDUSTRY LIKE BETHLEHEM
STEEL THAT HAVE BEEN LOST DUE TO
IN PART OF TRADE DEALS THAT
DON'T FAVOR THE AMERICAN WORKING
CLASS?
>> Senator Sanders: RODNEY,
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
[APPLAUSE]
YOU ARE LOOKING AT A FORMER
CONGRESSMAN AND A SENATOR WHO
VOTED, NOT ONLY VOTED AGAINST
NAFTA, WALK THE PICKET LINES
WITH UNION WORKERS.
[APPLAUSE]
VOTED AGAINST PERMANENT NORMAL
TRADE RELATIONS WITH CHINA,
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE
TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP.
AND WHY DID I OPPOSE ALL OF
THESE DISASTROUS TRADE
AGREEMENTS?
IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT
THESE AGREEMENTS, UNDER
DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN
LEADERSHIP, WAS WRITTEN BY
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS TO
MAKE THESE CORPORATIONS EVEN
WEALTHIER AT THE EXPENSE OF THE
AMERICAN WORKER.
SO LET ME SUGGEST WHAT IS NOT A
RADICAL IDEA.
AMERICAN WORKERS SHOULD NOT HAVE
TO COMPETE AGAINST DESPERATE
PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD FOR
MAKING A DOLLAR OR $2 AN HOUR.
I THINK WE HAVE A MORAL
RESPONSIBILITY TO LIFT UP POOR
PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ALONG
WITH THE REST OF THE WEALTHY
COUNTRIES, BUT YOU CAN DO THAT
WITHOUT ENGAGING IN A RACE TO
THE BOTTOM.
I DON'T WANT -- I HAVE HEARD --
I HAVE HEARD FROM, 100 LIFETIME
VOTING UNION.
I TALKED TO UNION WORKERS AND
THEY SAY OUR BOSS HAS SAID THAT
IF YOU DON'T TAKE A PAY CUT, YOU
DON'T TAKE A CUT IN HEALTH CARE,
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO MEXICO,
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FOR CHINA
WHERE PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO
WORK FOR ALMOST NOTHING.
SO WE NEED -- TRADE IS A GOOD
THING, BUT WE NEED A TRADE
POLICY THAT WORKS FOR WORKING
FAMILIES AND NOT JUST FOR THE
LARGE CORPORATIONS.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: ALL RIGHT.
YOU JUST SIGN PETER DOOCY'S
PACKAGE THERE, PEOPLE SAYING
THEY THINK THE ECONOMY IS DOING
PRETTY WELL HERE, SO IN
PENNSYLVANIA YOU'VE GOT
UNEMPLOYMENT IS DOWN OVER THE
PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WAGES ARE
UP 6.6%.
SO HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THOSE
PEOPLE IN THIS AREA, WHO I KNOW
YOU WOULD LIKE TO WIN OVER THIS
TIME AROUND, THAT THEY SHOULD
SORT OF CHANGE HORSES AND GO
WITH YOU ON THINGS ARE GOING
WELL?
>> Senator Sanders: THAT'S A
FAIR QUESTION, AND LET'S LOOK AT
WHAT'S GOING ON NOT ONLY IN THE
UNITED STATES, AROUND THE WORLD.
I KNOW DONALD TRUMP WILL TELL
YOU THAT HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE RELATIVELY LOW ON THE
PLUMBING, WHICH WE CURRENTLY
EXPERIENCE.
WELL GUESS WHAT?
IN 2010, AT THE HEART OF THE
WALL STREET CRASH, ON WOMEN IN
AMERICA WAS 10%.
YOU REMEMBER THAT.
BY THE TIME OBAMA LEFT OFFICE,
IT WAS 4.5%.
SO IT'S GONE DOWN AND IN THE
LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS UNDER
TRUMPET HAS GONE DOWN, 3.5%
DOWN?
THAT'S GOOD.
YOU KNOW IT ON EMPLOYMENT IS IN
GERMANY NOW?
3.1%.
IN JAPAN IT'S 2.8%.
IN THE U.K. IT'S A HAIR HIGHER
THAN US.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE ENTIRE
GLOBAL ECONOMY, THANK GOD, IS
BOUNCING BACK FROM THE TERRIBLE,
TERRIBLE WALL STREET DISASTER
THAT COST SO MANY JOBS AND
CAUSED SO MUCH SUFFERING IN THIS
COUNTRY.
>> Bret: YOU SAID IT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMP --
>> Senator Sanders: WHAT I'M
SUGGESTING TO YOU IS THE FACTS
ARE VERY CLEAR, THAT IN JAPAN,
GERMANY, UNITED KINGDOM, ALL
OVER THE WORLD, THANK GOD, IT'S
A GOOD THING, THE GLOBAL ECONOMY
IS COMING BACK AND UNEMPLOYMENT
IS RELATIVELY LOW.
I KNOW TRUMP WILL GIVE A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT,
BUT IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS,
IN THE CURRENT ECONOMY TODAY,
WHILE UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOW AND WE
ARE ALL DELIGHTED BY THAT, WHAT
YOU HAVE IS THAT MOST OF THE NEW
INCOME AND WEALTH CONTINUES TO
GO TO THE VERY, VERY WEALTHY.
IF YOU A SITUATION NOW WERE
7 MILLION MORE PEOPLE LACK
HEALTH INSURANCE THAT USED TO
HAVE IT.
AND YOU STILL HAVE A SITUATION
WHERE IN STATES ALL OF HIS
COUNTRY, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO
BELIEVE THIS, BUT IT'S TRUE, YOU
GOT PEOPLE STILL WORKING FOR
7.50, $8 AN HOUR BECAUSE TRUMP
AND REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO RAISE
THE MINIMUM WAGE TO A LIVING
WAGE, SO TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION, THE ECONOMY TODAY IS
GOOD, THANK GOD, BUT YOU'VE GOT
TENS OF MILLIONS OF WORKERS
STILL STRUGGLING TO PUT FOOD ON
THE TABLE AND WE GOT TO ADDRESS
THEIR NEEDS.
>> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU JUST
QUICKLY, IF YOU RAISE TAXES ON
CORPORATIONS, WHICH I KNOW YOU
WEREN'T HAPPY WITH THE TAX CUTS
FOR CORPORATIONS, AREN'T YOU
AFRAID THAT THAT'S GOING TO
CHILL EMPLOYMENT?
THAT THOSE COMPANIES ARE GOING
TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE
100 EMPLOYEES, WE COULD DO IT
WITH 50 OR WE COULD DO IT WITH
60, WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY
THESE HIGHER TAXES.
>> Senator Sanders: IF YOU
WANT TO DEFEND -- I THINK WE
LOOK AT THE WORLD A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENTLY BUT IF YOU WANT TO
DEFEND A TAX SYSTEM IN WHICH
AMAZON, OWNED BY THE WEALTHIEST
PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY, PAID
ZERO AND FEDERAL TAXES.
>> Martha: I DON'T THINK
ANYBODY THINK THAT'S FAIR.
>> Senator Sanders: GOOD.
>> Martha: BUT I'M SAYING IF
YOU RAISE TAXES ON COMPANIES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ARE YOU
WORRIED THAT THEY WILL EMPLOY
FEWER PEOPLE?
>> Senator Sanders: TAX POLICY
IS COMPLETED AND YOU GOT TO IT
RIGHT.
RAISE TAXES ON SMALL
BUSINESSES -- WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT IS RAISING TAXES
ON LARGE, PROFITABLE
CORPORATIONS AND ON THE
WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS FAIR.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: SENATOR, YOU LOOK AT
THE LIST, YOU ARE FOR THE GREEN
NEW DEAL IN DIFFERENT POLICIES
WITHIN IT, BUT YOUR FOR IT
GENERALLY.
WE TALKED ABOUT MEDICARE FOR
ALL.
>> Senator Sanders: CAN WE
TALK ABOUT --
>> Bret: WE WILL.
YOU HAVE AN INFRA- STRUCTURE
PLAN.
FREE COLLEGE TUITION.
WE HAVE A SHOT OF THE CURRENT
NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK.
IT STANDS AT MORE THAN
22 TRILLION TONIGHT AND AS WE
ARE TALKING HERE, IT IS TAKING
UP.
IT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO
PAY FOR YOUR PLANS, BUT THERE IS
A LOT OF DOUBT THAT YOUR PLANS
MIGHT ACTUALLY SPEED UP THAT
CLOCK DRAMATICALLY, SO WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THAT, DO NOT CARE ABOUT
THAT ANYMORE?
>> Senator Sanders: I THINK
YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG GUY.
MAYBE IT'S THE PRESIDENT.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
IN ALL DUE RESPECT, TRUMP GAVE A
TRILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR TAX
BREAK TO THE TOP 1% AND LARGE
PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS, AND I
FIND IT SO IRONIC THAT MY
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TALK ALL
THE TIME ABOUT THE DEBT.
THEY DON'T HAVE A WORD TO SAY
ABOUT THAT.
>> Bret: WE'VE DONE MANY
STORIES ABOUT THAT.
>> Senator Sanders: NOT A
CRITICISM, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING
IS --
>> Bret: I'M ASKING YOU.
>> Senator Sanders: I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEBT.
IF THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE
CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD
BE LEAVING TO OUR KIDS AND OUR
GRANDCHILDREN, BUT WE PAY FOR
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
IN TERMS OF MEDICARE FOR ALL, WE
ARE PAYING FOR THAT BY
ELIMINATING, AS I SAID BEFORE,
DEDUCTIBLES, AND PREMIUMS.
WE ARE GOING TO SAVE THE AVERAGE
FAMILY MONEY.
WHEN WE ARE PAYING TWICE AS MUCH
AS OTHER COUNTRIES, WE ARE GOING
TO MONEY ON HEALTH CARE.
I TALKED ABOUT A TAX ON
WALL STREET SPECULATION THAT
WILL HELP US MAKE COLLEGES,
PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
TUITION-FREE.
WE HAVE A TAX PLAN TO RAISE THE
TRILLION DOLLARS WE NEED OVER A
10-YEAR PERIOD TO REBUILD OUR
CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I
THINK YOU'RE TALKING TO THE ONE
GUY, WE PAY FOR WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING, UNLIKE THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: WE HAVE ANOTHER
AUDIENCE QUESTION.
AMY IS A THERAPIST FROM SOUTH
WHITEHALL TOWNSHIP.
AMY, WHAT YOUR QUESTION CONNECTS
ME THERE SHE HAS.
>> I WORK AS A THERAPIST
SPECIFICALLY WITH PEOPLE
STRUGGLING WITH OPIOID
ADDICTION.
PENNSYLVANIA IS CURRENTLY FOURTH
IN THE NATION FOR OPIOID
OVERDOSE DEATHS WHICH AMOUNTS TO
15 PEOPLE A DAY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
AS PRESIDENT, WHAT SPECIFIC
POLICIES WOULD YOU IMPLEMENT IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS?
>> Senator Sanders: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE
DOING.
AND LET ME SAY, IT'S NOT JUST
PENNSYLVANIA, IT'S VERMONT, IT'S
NEW HAMPSHIRE.
IT IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE
CRISIS.
FOR THE FIRST THING -- THE FIRST
THING THAT I WOULD DO IS MAKE
CERTAIN THAT WE NEVER ALLOW
TRUMP TO IMPLEMENT HIS PLAN,
WHICH WOULD THROW 32 MILLION
PEOPLE OFF OF THE HEALTH
INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE.
SOME OF YOU REMEMBER -- THINK
ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO
DEALING WITH OPIOIDS.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG, YOU GUYS FOLLOW THIS
STUFF, DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGNED
AND HE SAID I'M A DIFFERENT TYPE
OF REPUBLICAN.
I'M NOT GOING TO CUT MEDICAID,
I'M NOT GOING TO CUT MEDICARE.
THE LAST BUDGET THAT HE BROUGHT
FORTH CALLS FOR A TRILLION AND A
HALF DOLLAR CUT IN MEDICAID OVER
A 10-YEAR PERIOD, $845 BILLION
IN MEDICARE.
WHAT WOULD'VE TRILLION TRILLION
AND A HALF CUT TO MEDICAID DO
FOR OUR ABILITY TO COMBAT THE
OPIOID ADDICTION?
SO WHAT WE NEED, IN FACT, IS WE
NEED A SERIES OF IDEAS TO DEAL
WITH IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS
ADDICTION.
WE ARE FACING A NATION RIGHT NOW
WHERE HER LIFE EXPECTANCY IS
ACTUALLY GOING DOWN, AND ONE OF
THE REASONS HIS DRUG ADDICTION.
IT IS ALCOHOLISM, IT IS SUICIDE,
WHICH THE DOCTORS REFER TO AS
DISEASES OF DESPAIR.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE GIVING UP ON
LIFE, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TREATMENT
CAPABILITIES, WHICH MOST
STATES -- VERMONT IS DOING
FAIRLY WELL IN THAT.
THAT MEANS IF YOU WANT TO GET
OFF OF THAT ADDICTION, THERE IS
A PLACE FOR YOU TO GO.
IT'S DIFFICULT, IT'S TOUGH
STUFF, BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH
ADDICTION IN A SERIOUS WAY AND
INVEST IN TREATMENT FOR THOSE
WHO ARE ADDICTED.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: FOR ALL OF THESE
PLANS -- FOR ALL OF THESE PLANS
YOU SAY THERE ARE ENOUGH TAXES
TO RAISE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE
PLANS.
>> Senator Sanders: S.
>> Bret: BIPARTISAN
INDEPENDENT GROUPS WHO HAVE
LOOKED AT THOSE PLANS AND SAY
JUST DOESN'T ADD UP.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?
>> Senator Sanders: WE
DISAGREE AND SOMETIMES THESE
PLANS DONE BY THINK TANKS, CHECK
OUT WHO FUNDS THE THINK TANKS.
[APPLAUSE]
LOOK, BRET, HERE IS THE ISSUE
THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
LET ME JUST BRING IT DOWN, WHERE
THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE
HISTORY OF THE WORLD, THAT'S
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING
THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILDHOOD
POVERTY OF ALMOST ANY MAJOR
NATION ON EARTH?
WE HAVE SOME MOMS HERE OR
SPENDING 15, $20,000 A YEAR
TRYING TO FIND QUALITY
CHILD CARE FOR THEIR KIDS.
WE PROBABLY HAVE A CHILD CARE
SYSTEMS WHICH IS MORE
DYSFUNCTIONAL THAN ALMOST ANY
OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH, BUT WE
ALL KNOW THOSE YEARS ARE THE
MOST IMPORTANT YEARS.
GOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
BRIGHT YOUNG PEOPLE IN AMERICA
TODAY, THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN
THE WORLD, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
GO TO COLLEGE, AND YOU'VE GOT
40 MILLION PEOPLE STRUGGLING
WITH STUDENT DEBT.
YOU REALLY THINK THAT WE CANNOT
DO BETTER AS A NATION, AND ON
TOP OF THAT YOU GOT A HANDFUL OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE     OWN MORE WEAH
PEOPLE WHO ARE     OWN MORE WEAN
THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE
AMERICANS -- I UNDERSTAND THAT
WE ARE TAKING ON CORPORATE
AMERICA, WE'RE TAKING ON
REPUBLICANS, TAKING ON THE
DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT, TAKING
ON THE DRUG COMPANIES, THE
INSURANCE COMPANY, THE
MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, YOU
KNOW WHAT --
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
IT AIN'T EASY!
I KNOW THAT.
BUT I THINK WITH THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE KNOW, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
I THINK ARE READY TO DEAL WITH
JUSTICE IN AMERICA.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING FOR.
THAT'S ECONOMIC JUSTICE, SOCIAL
JUSTICE, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE,
RACIAL JUSTICE.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: WE WANT TO GET YOU
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT -- WE WANT
TO GET TO SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
IMMIGRATION.
>> Senator Sanders:
IMMIGRATION?
>> Martha: IMMIGRATION, AND
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE BORDER.
THE PRESIDENT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS
SAID THE CAPACITY FOR ASYLUM
SEEKERS THAT WERE FULL OF THE
BORDER IN TERMS OF HOUSING, AND
ITS OVERFLOWING, BAD, UNTENABLE
SITUATION RIGHT NOW, HE HAS
SUGGESTED, AND IT'S BEEN VERY
CONTROVERSIAL OF THE PAST FEW
DAYS, SENDING SOME OF THOSE
PEOPLE TO SANCTUARY CITIES,
WHICH HAVE SAID IN THE PAST THAT
THEY HAVE OPEN DOORS FOR
IMMIGRANTS, AND THEY HAVE OPEN
DOORS FOR IMMIGRANTS.
SO THE OVERFLOW THAT WE HAVE NO
CAPACITY FOR, WHERE DO YOU THINK
THEY SHOULD GO --
>> Senator Sanders: FIRST
THOUGHT, FIRST THOUGHT, I MEAN,
THIS PRESIDENT -- LEMME GET INTO
THIS.
I'VE TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT HIM.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM AT THE BORDER.
A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
CORRECT ME IF YOU THINK I'M
WRONG, THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE
ARE NOW SEEING DESPERATE PEOPLE
FLEEING VIOLENCE AND MISERY IN
HONDURAS, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA
WITH LITTLE CHILDREN WALKING A
THOUSAND MILES.
THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK IN.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY'RE
GOING UP AND THEY ARE SAYING WE
WANT ASYLUM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
MY LITTLE GIRL TO GROW UP TO BE
TREATED TERRIBLY BY GANGS, OKAY?
NOW YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE A
WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, SO WHAT WE
NEED TO DO?
WE NEED SENSIBLE IMMIGRATION
REFORM, WHICH INCLUDES, AMONG
OTHER THINGS, GETTING HUNDREDS
OF NEW JUDGES, BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM IS NOW OVERFLOWING, WHO
CAN DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES.
YOU'RE COMING INTO THE COUNTRY,
ARE YOU REALLY FLEEING VIOLENCE
OR IS IT ANOTHER REASON?
OKAY, SO YOU NEED TO HAVE MANY,
MANY MORE JUDGES TO EXPEDITE THE
PROCESS.
>> Bret: AND NEW ASYLUM WAS?
>> Senator Sanders: PARTY MAKE
MXP WHEN NEW ASYLUM WAS?
>> Senator Sanders:
HISTORICALLY FROM AN
INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL
PERSPECTIVE, AND I SPEAK AS THE
SON OF AN IMMIGRANT HIMSELF.
WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AT THE
AGE OF 17 FROM POLAND WITHOUT A
NICKEL IN HIS POCKET,
INTERNATIONALLY WITH THE WORLD
HAS SAID IS THAT IF YOU ARE
FLEEING VIOLENCE, IF YOUR LIFE
IS IN DANGER, THAT OTHER
COUNTRIES SHOULD WELCOME YOU IN.
BUT WE NEED REAL, COMPREHENSIVE
IMMIGRATION REFORM.
WE DON'T NEED -- LET ME SAY IT
IS VERY CLEAR -- WE DON'T NEED
TO DEMONIZE IMMIGRANTS.
THAT WE DON'T NEED.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU TO
ANSWER MY QUESTION, WHICH IS
RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
WE HAVE OVERFLOWING FACILITIES,
THEY NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE
BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THAT
ASYLUM --
>> Senator Sanders: WHAT ABOUT
BUILDING PROPER FACILITIES FOR
THEM RIGHT NOW?
>> Martha: WHERE?
>> Senator Sanders: RIGHT ON
THE BORDER.
>> Martha: THE SO THE PEOPLE
WHO LIVE ON THE BORDER SHOULD
HAVE MORE FACILITIES IN THEIR
STATE, BUT SANCTUARY CITIES
WHICH HAVE SAID THEY ARE OPEN TO
ACCEPTING PEOPLE SHOULD NOT TAKE
MORE?
>> Senator Sanders: THIS IS A
POLITICAL ACT.
IT'S NOT A REAL QUESTION.
>> Martha: YES, IT IS PRETTY
>> Senator Sanders: IT'S A
POLITICAL DECISION.
SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO -- LET'S
TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION, WHICH IS
A REAL ISSUE.
FIRST OF ALL, INSTEAD OF
DEMONIZING IMMIGRANTS -- I WON'T
SAY YOU ARE BUT WE HAVE A
PRESIDENT WERE CERTAINLY DOES
EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WHAT WE NEED IS COPPERHEADS OF
IMMIGRATION REFORM.
IF THAT'S WHAT AMERICAN PEOPLE
WANT.
WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES
IN THAT, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO I
IT.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: BOTH PARTIES NEED
TO AGREE ON A VERY
>> Senator Sanders: TRUMP AND
AT THE DACA PROGRAM THAT OBAMA
ESTABLISHED.
YOU KNOW THAT MEANS?
EVERY DAY MORE AND MORE YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISED IN
UNITED STATES FROM TWO OR THREE
YEARS OF AGE, THEY ARE IN THE
MILITARY, THEY ARE TEACHERS.
THEY ARE WORKING ALL OVER THIS
COUNTRY.
THEY ARE NOW SCARED TO DEATH
THAT SUMMER IS GOING TO PICK
THEM UP THROW THEM OUT OF THE
COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHAT
PROMPTED.
WE NEED TO PROVIDE LEGAL STATUS
TO THOSE PEOPLE, AND WE NEED A
HUMANE -- LOOK, MARTHA, I'M NOT
SAYING THIS IS AN EASY ISSUE,
BUT LET'S NOT POLITICIZE IT.
WHAT WE NEED, AS I SAID, WE NEED
THE PROPER LEGAL PROCESSES AT
THE BORDER SO THAT THESE ISSUES
CAN BE ADJUDICATED TO DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE SHOULD BE
ENTITLED TO ASYLUM.
>> Bret: YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
A WALL OR SECURITY THERE BUT YOU
TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
>> Senator Sanders: WE NEED
BORDER SECURITY, COURSE WE DO.
WHO ARGUES WITH THAT?
THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT THERE
ARE MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO
DO THAT THAN SIMPLY BUILDING A
WALL.
>> Bret: LET'S GO BACK TO THE
AUDIENCE.
TONY IS A REAL ESTATE AGENT FROM
PENNSYLVANIA, HE HAS OUR NEXT
QUESTION.
TONY?
>> SENATOR SANDERS, GOOD LUCK IN
YOUR CAMPAIGN.
AS A AMERICAN I WANT TO BE
ASSURED OUR COUNTRY ISN'T GOING
TO PARTAKE IN ANY FOREIGN
AFFAIRS THAT DON'T DIRECTLY
AFFECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF
SYRIA, VENEZUELA AND OTHER
COUNTRIES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN
PERSONAL ISSUES.
YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH
THE SENTIMENT OR YOU GOING TO
BECOME ANOTHER COG IN THE WAR
MACHINE?
>> Senator Sanders: TONY,
THANK YOU.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION,
AND WE DON'T COME AS A NATION,
WE DON'T DISCUSS FOREIGN AFFAIRS
QUITE AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD.
TONY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A GUY
WHO, ONCE AGAIN, NOT ONLY VOTED
AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ, I
HELPED LEAD THE OPPOSITION FOR
THE WAR IN IRAQ AND IF YOU GO
BACK, GO BACK TO YOUTUBE AND
WHAT I SAID THEN IS THAT WARS
HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES,
WHETHER IT WAS THE TRAGEDY OF
VIETNAM WITH SO MANY PEOPLE IN
MY GENERATION STILL SUFFERING,
PEOPLE STILL SLEEPING ON THE
STREETS AND BY THE WAY, WE'VE
GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO VETERAN
IN THIS COUNTRY SLEEPS OUT ON
THE STREET.
[APPLAUSE]
LET ME JUST SAY THIS, THIS IS,
AND A SENSE, GOOD NEWS.
IN THE LAST MONTH I'VE LED THE
EFFORT ALONG WITH SENATOR MIKE
LEE, A CONSERVATIVE FROM UTAH,
MIKE AND I LED THE EFFORT IN THE
SENATE, WITH SOME REALLY GREAT
PEOPLE IN A BIPARTISAN WAY, LET
IT IN THE HOUSE.
WHAT WE SAID IS WE THINK THAT
THE UNITED STATES SHOULD GET OUT
OF THE SAUDI-LED WAR IN YEMEN.
[APPLAUSE]
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE
WAR POWERS ACT WAS PASSED 45
YEARS AGO, WE SUCCEEDED IN THE
HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
LET ME SAY THIS IN A VERY
SERIOUS WAY.
I'VE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE
PRESIDENT ON MY PORTABLE LET ME
JUST SAY THIS, THE PRESIDENT HAS
SAID THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO
SEE THIS COUNTRY INVOLVED IN
ENDLESS WARS, AND I AGREE WITH
THAT END, MR. PRESIDENT,
TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING
EXTRAORDINARY.
SIGN THAT RESOLUTION.
SAUDI ARABIA SHOULD NOT BE
DETERMINING THE MILITARY OR
FOREIGN POLICY OF THIS COUNTRY.
IT LET'S GET OUT OF
SAUDI ARABIA, LET'S DEVELOP A
BIPARTISAN APPROACH SO THAT WE
DO NOT CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED IN
WARS LIKE AFGHANISTAN, WHICH IS
18 YEARS NOW.
>> Bret: FROM A FOREIGN POLICY
PERSPECTIVE, WHICH COUNTRY IS
THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE U.S.?
>> Senator Sanders: I DON'T
KNOW THAT I -- LOOK, I DON'T
LIKE USING THE WORD "THREAT"
BECAUSE THAT IS LIKE OH, MY GOD,
WE HAVE TO SPEND MILLIONS MORE
ON THE MILITARY.
I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
CLEARLY WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
CHINA, CONCERNED ABOUT RUSSIA,
BUT HERE'S THE IRONY HERE.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO SAY WE
NEED TO SPEND EVEN MORE THAN
$700 BILLION A YEAR, MORE THAN
THE NEXT TEN NATIONS COMBINED
COME ON THE MILITARY, DO KNOW
MY?
BECAUSE CHINA IS A REAL
POTENTIAL ENEMY.
THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE ARE
INVESTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
BUILDING THE CHINESE ECONOMY.
I FIND THAT SOMEWHAT IRONIC.
[APPLAUSE]
SO I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD
"ENEMY."
CLEARLY WE NEED A STRONG
DEFENSE.
WE NEED TO BRING THE
UNITED STATES AND THE REST OF
THE WORLD TOGETHER, DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RID THIS
WORLD OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND I
WILL TELL YOU WHAT ELSE, IN MY
VIEW, IS A NATIONAL SECURITY
ISSUE, AND THAT IS WE HAVE GOD,
AS A NATION, TO REJECT TRUMP'S
IDEA THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A
HOAX.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
AND I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR
WITH THE SCIENTIFIC REPORTS THAT
TELL US THAT WE HAVE ALL OF 12
YEARS TO SIGNIFICANTLY CUT
CARBON EMISSIONS OR ELSE THEY
WILL BE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO
UNITED STATES AND COUNTRIES ALL
OVER THE WORLD, SO WE HAVE A
MORAL RESPONSIBILITY, IN MY
VIEW, TO TRANSFORM OUR ENERGY
SYSTEM AND LEAVE THIS PLANET
HEALTHY AND HABITABLE FOR OUR
CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN,
AND BY THE WAY, WHEN WE DO THAT
THAT, --
>> Martha: BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT
UP THE QUESTION OF EMISSIONS,
JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ON
EMISSIONS, YOU THINK WE SHOULD
ELIMINATE NUCLEAR POWER COME
WHICH I KNOW THEY DID IT IN
VERMONT, BUT ENDED UP ACTUALLY
MOVING HER EMISSIONS HIGHER BY
16% IN VERMONT BECAUSE NUCLEAR
DOESN'T HAVE ANY EMISSIONS.
>> Senator Sanders: HONESTLY I
DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
>> Martha: I CAN SHOW YOU
WHERE.
>> Senator Sanders: I CAN TELL
YOU THAT IN MY CITY -- IN MY
CITY IN BURLINGTON, VERMONT, THE
LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OF
VERMONT, I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF
OUR ENERGY IS NONRENEWABLE.
IF SOMETHING STARTED WAY BACK
WHEN I WAS MAYOR AND OTHER
CITIES ARE DOING THE SAME.
BUT HERE IS THE POINT.
HERE IS THE POINT.
I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE -- I DO
BELIEVE WE SHOULD PHASE OUT, NOT
ELIMINATED TOMORROW.
WE SHOULD FACE OF NUCLEAR POWER
PLANTS, BUT HERE IS THE MAIN
POINT.
THE MAIN POINT IS THAT IF WE DO
NOT COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, I
FEAR VERY MUCH THE KIND OF WORLD
THAT WE ARE LEAVING TO OUR KIDS
IN TERMS OF MORE DROUGHT, MORE
FLOODING, MORE EXTREME WEATHER
DISTURBANCES, MORE RISING OCEAN
LEVELS AND WHEN THOSE THINGS
HAPPEN, BY THE WAY, THEY BECOME
A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE
BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGRATE.
IF I CAN'T -- IF I'M LIVING IN
THE MIDEAST SOMEPLACE AND I
CAN'T GROW FOOD ON MY LAND, I'M
GOING TO PICK UP AND LEAVE THAT
CAUSES CONFLICT.
>> Bret: YOU SAID, SENATOR,
THAT YOU WANTED A STRONG DEFENSE
BUT YOUR PLAN DOES CALL FOR
SIGNIFICANT CUTS IN DEFENSE,
WITH THAT SEND A MESSAGE TO THE
REST OF THE WORLD THAT WE ARE
WEAKER?
>> Senator Sanders: NO.
NO, NO, NO.
WE ARE NOW SPENDING, BRET, WE
ARE SPENDING MORE THAN THE NEXT
TEN NATIONS COMBINED, INCLUDING
MANY OF OUR ALLIES.
WE ARE NOW SPENDING OVER
$700 BILLION A YEAR ON DEFENSE,
SO WE NEED A STRONG DEFENSE, BUT
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THIS, WE
HAVE A PENTAGON -- THERE ARE
SOME REPUBLICANS, THE RANKING
MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE,
MIKE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF IT AND
MIKE AND II THINK ARE IN THE
AGREEMENT ON THIS, THE
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE
PENTAGON IS THE ONLY MAJOR
AGENCY OF GOVERNMENT THAT HAS
NOT UNDERTAKEN OR COMPLETED IN
MAJOR AUDIT, AND THERE ARE VERY
FEW PEOPLE -- A MASSIVE AMOUNT
OF WASTE.
IF YOU ARE JOHN McCAIN, LATE
JOHN McCAIN TALKED ABOUT THE
INCREDIBLE COST OVERRUNS WITH
DOMINIC EXISTING IN THE
PENTAGON.
WE DO NEED A STRONG DEFENSE,
SUPPORT OUR STRONG DEFENSE BUT I
DON'T SUPPORT WASTE AND
PROFITEERING.
>> Martha: A QUICK LIGHTNING
ROUND, TRY TO GO ABOUT 152ND
ANSWERS.
>> Senator Sanders: OH, I HATE
THIS.
ALL RIGHT.
>> Martha: THE FIRST ONE IS
VERY SERIOUS QUESTION, YOU SAID
YESTERDAY, I WATCHED A RALLY IN
PITTSBURGH, NO ONE SHOULD TELL A
WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER OWN
BODY.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
WITH REGARD TO ABORTION.
WITH REGARD TO ABORTION, DO
BELIEVE THAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE
ABLE TO TERMINATE A PREGNANCY UP
UNTIL THE MOMENT OF BIRTH?
>> Senator Sanders: LOOK, I
THINK THAT THAT HAPPENS VERY,
VERY RARELY.
I THINK THIS IS THE MAKING OF A
POLITICAL ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S RARE, IT'S BEING
MADE INTO A POLITICAL ISSUE BUT
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I BELIEVE
THAT THE DECISION OVER ABORTION
BELONGS TO A WOMAN AND HER
PHYSICIAN, NOT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, NOT THE STATE
GOVERNMENT.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: SENATOR, YOU ARE
LOOKING TO BECOME THE FIRST
JEWISH PRESIDENT.
IF YOU ARE ALSO A STAUNCH
SUPPORTER OF CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN
OMAR.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Senator Sanders: HOLD IT,
HOLD IT, HOLD IT.
I'VE TALKED TO HER ABOUT TWICE
IN MY LIFE.
I RESPECT HER.
I DO SUPPORTER.
I SUPPORT A MUSLIM MEMBER OF
CONGRESS NOT TO BE ATTACKED
EVERY SINGLE DAY IN OUTRAGEOUS,
RACIST REMARKS.
>> Bret: SURE.
MY QUESTION IS THAT EVEN SOME
FELLOW DEMOCRATS HAD SOME
PROBLEMS -- HAVE ACCUSED HER OF
USING LANGUAGE KIND OF
ASSOCIATED WITH ANTI-SEMITISM.
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOME
JEWISH AMERICANS WOULD HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THAT?
>> Senator Sanders: I CAN
UNDERSTAND -- I THINK THAT IS
NOT QUITE RIGHT AND I THINK THAT
SHE HAS GOT TO DO MAY BE A
BETTER JOB IN SPEAKING TO THE
JEWISH COMMUNITY, BUT IF YOUR
QUESTION TO ME IS DO I THINK
SHE'S ANTI-SEMITIC, NO, I DON'T.
>> Bret: NOT HER.
>> Senator Sanders: HERE IS
THE POINT, ALSO, I'M JEWISH.
I LOST MY FATHER'S FAMILY,
DEVASTATED BY HITLER, SO THIS IS
AN ISSUE OF SOME SENSITIVITY TO
ME.
I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY
POWER, AND I HOPE EVERY MEMBER
OF CONGRESS WILL FIGHT NOT ONLY
ANTI-SEMITISM, BUT RACISM AND
ANTI-MUSLIM ACTIVITY SO WE
CREATE A NONDISCRIMINATORY
SOCIETY, BUT IT IS NOT
ANTI-SEMITIC TO BE CRITICAL OF A
RIGHT WING GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL.
IT IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: DO YOU BELIEVE --
DO BELIEVE THAT MURDERERS AND
RAPISTS OR THIEVES OR CHILD
MOLESTERS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT
TO VOTE FROM PRESENT TO MAKE
>> Senator Sanders: GOOD
QUESTION.
IN MY STATE, TURNS OUT THAT IN
OUR CONSTITUTION IN THE STATE OF
VERMONT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS
NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
SO I THINK YOU MAKE -- IF
SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING
TERRIBLE, THEY ARE A RAPIST OR A
MURDERER, YOU SEND THEM AWAY,
SOMETIMES FOR LIFE, BUT I ALSO
THINK THAT INTEGRAL TO WHO WE
ARE AS AMERICANS, NO MATTER WHAT
KIND OF TERRIBLE THINGS YOU DID,
YOU'RE PAYING THE PRICE, MAYBE
YOU'RE IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF
YOUR LIFE, BUT YOU HAVE THE
RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT UPSETS ME VERY
MUCH IS WE HAVE COWARDLY
REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE WORKING
OVERTIME TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE,
TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE OF
COLOR OR POOR PEOPLE, FOR YOUNG
PEOPLE, TO VOTE.
SOMEONE TOO HARD AND STAY YOU
COMMITTED A CRIME, YOU CAN'T
VOTE, OR YOU DID THIS, YOU CAN'T
VOTE, YOU DID THAT, YOU CAN'T
VOTE, I DON'T LIKE THAT.
EVERY AMERICAN 18 AGE OR OLDER
WHO IS A CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY
HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
>> Martha: WHAT IF THEY SAY
THE SAME THING ABOUT YOU, THAT
YOU JUST WANT FELONS TO VOTE
BECAUSE YOU THINK IT WILL BE
BETTER FOR YOU?
>> Senator Sanders: COME ON.
>> Martha: THEY COULD SAY THE
SAME THING, RIGHT?
[BOOS]
>> Senator Sanders: AND YOU
HAVE DONE A SCIENTIFIC STUDY TO
DETERMINE THAT.
>> Martha: I'M JUST SAYING
THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO
ENCOURAGE VOTERS AND DISCOURAGE
VOTERS DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY
SET.
>> Senator Sanders: ONE OF THE
POLITICAL PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE
FACING RIGHT NOW IS THE EFFORT
TO DENY PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO
VOTE.
LOOK, I HAVE RUN FOR OFFICE MANY
TIMES IN VERMONT.
SOMETIMES I LOST, SOMETIMES I
WON BUT I DON'T STAFF AT NIGHT
FIGURING OUT HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE
FROM VOTING.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT
THE REDACTED MUELLER REPORT, THE
REDACTED VERSION OF THE MUELLER
REPORT IS COMING ON THURSDAY,
YOU DON'T TALK A LOT ABOUT THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION ON
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, WHY?
>> Senator Sanders: BECAUSE
EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT
IT.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, IT'S COMING
OUT.
I THINK TO THE EXTENT -- AS MUCH
OF IT IS CAN BE MADE PUBLIC
SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC.
I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE
A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE
REPORT, PERIOD.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Martha: ONE QUESTION ABOUT
SOMEBODY WHO MAY RUN AGAINST
YOU, DO YOU THINK THAT JOE BIDEN
IS A PROGRESSIVE?
>> Senator Sanders: JOE IS
SOMEBODY WHO I HAVE KNOWN MANY,
MANY YEARS.
JOE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND BY
THE WAY, I HOPE VERY MUCH THAT
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY, WITH
GOT A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE, MANY
OF THEM PERSONAL FRIENDS OF
MINE, THAT WE HAVE A DEBATE
ABOUT THE ISSUES AND NOT ABOUT
PERSONALITY.
JOE IS A FRIEND OF MINE.
>> Martha: IS HE A PROGRESSIVE
THOUGH?
>> Senator Sanders: YOU SEE,
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO FALL FOR THAT.
JOE WAS A FRIEND, YOU WILL GET
HIS POINT OF VIEW, I GIVE MINE,
LET'S LET PEOPLE DECIDE.
>> Bret: OF THE 20 POTENTIAL
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES, DO HAVE
ONE THAT YOU THINK WILL BE THE
TOUGHEST CHALLENGER TO YOU?
>> Senator Sanders: I HAVE NO
IDEA.
TODAY THERE WAS A POLL THAT
ULTIMATELY, TOMORROW WE WILL BE
IN 18TH PLACE, WHO KNOWS WHAT
GOES ON?
JUST DO THE BEST, ALL I CAN TELL
YOU IS THAT WHAT I AM PROUD OF,
AND OUR CAMPAIGN, MEDIA PAYS
ATTENTION TO THE MONEY WE RAISE,
GOOD.
MORE IMPORTANT TO ME, WE HAVE
OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE
SIGNED UP TO VOLUNTEER.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Bret: WILL GIVE TO THE
FLOOR HERE FOR A CLOSING
STATEMENT.
>> Senator Sanders: OH,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Martha: WE WANT TO GIVE YOU
A CHANCE TO MAKE A CLOSING
STATEMENT.
[CROWD CHANTING "BERNIE" PULSE
BRACKET >> Bret: WILL GIVE HIM
A CLOSING STATEMENT.
>> Senator Sanders: THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
I HOPE I WASN'T TOO HARD ON YOU.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
THANK EVERYBODY FOR WATCHING,
JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS.
I THINK SOMETIMES THE DIVISIONS
IN THIS COUNTRY GET A LITTLE BIT
TOO HEIGHTENED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE
ALL AMERICANS WHO LOVE THIS
COUNTRY, AND I ALSO THINK, AND
THE MEDIA PLAYS NOT A GOOD ROLE
IN THIS, AGAIN, NOT JUST FOX, WE
HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON THAN
MOST PEOPLE THINK WE DO.
POLL AFTER POLL.
SHOULD WE RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE
TO LIVING WAGE?
YES.
SHOULD WE REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING
INFRASTRUCTURE?
SHOULD WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR
VETERANS GET THE HEALTH CARE
THAT THEY HAVE EARNED?
ALL RIGHT?
SHOULD WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO
NOT BUT SOCIAL SECURITY OR
MEDICARE OR MEDICAID?
SHOULD WE GIVE HUGE TAX BREAKS
TO BILLIONAIRES?
THAT'S HOW MOST PEOPLE FEEL.
SO I HOPE -- I HOPE, I'M LOOKING
FOR A GOOD CAMPAIGN, AND THE
LAST ONE I WANT TO MAKE AND I
THINK FOX FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF
BEING HERE, AND THAT IS, I WANT
TO SEE OUR COUNTRY HAVE THE
HIGHEST VOTER TURNOUT IN THE
INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD, NOT ONE OF
THE LOWEST.
SO NO MATTER WHAT YOUR VIEWS
ARE, GET INVOLVED IN THE
