UP, ON TV WITH LAURA INGRAM,
BIGOT.
WE’RE STILL 64 DAYS OUT.
IMAGINE WHERE WE GET BETWEEN NOW
AND NOVEMBER.
>> IT FRIGHTENS ME.
LET’S PLAY WHAT YOU JUST SPOKE
ABOUT JOHN HEILEMAN.
WE PLAYED THE SMALL CLIP.
LET’S PLAY A LONGER CLIP TO GET
A FULL SENSE OF THE INTERVIEW,
TAKE A LOOK.
>> I DON’T LIKE TO MENTION BIDEN
BECAUSE HE’S NOT CONTROLLING
ANYTHING.
>> WHO DO YOU THINK IS PULLING
BIDEN’S STRINGS?
FORMER OBAMA OFFICIALS?
>> PEOPLE YOU NEVER HEARD OF.
PEOPLE IN THE DARK SHADOWS.
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE CONSPIRACY,
THEORY, DARK SHADOWS, THAT IS
THAT?
>> >> PEOPLE ON THE STREETS,
PEOPLE CONTROLLING THE STREETS.
WE HAD SOMEBODY GET ON A PLANE
FROM A CERTAIN CITY THIS WEEKEND
AND IN THE PLANE IT WAS ALMOST
COMPLETELY LOADED WITH THUGS
WEARING THESE DARK UNIFORMS,
BLACK UNIFORMS WITH GEAR AND
THIS AND THAT.
THEY’RE ON A PLANE --
>> WHERE WAS THIS?
>> I’LL TELL YOU SOME TIME, BUT
IT’S UNDER INVESTIGATION RIGHT
NOW.
>> YOU THINK THE SUBURBS ARE IN
DANGER WITH BIDEN IS ELECTED?
WE KNOW THE CITIES ARE IN DANGER
BUT ARE THE SUBURBS?
THEY SAY THAT’S FEAR MONGERING.
>> WEST CHESTER WAS GROUND ZERO
FOR WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO.
THEY WERE TRYING TO DESTROY THE
SUBURBAN BEAUTIFUL -- THE
AMERICAN DREAM, REALLY.
THEY WANT LOW INCOME HOUSING AND
WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF OTHER
PROBLEMS, INCLUDING CRIME --
>> YOU’RE NOT SAYING ALL POOR
PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS THOUGH?
>> NO, I’M NOT SAYING THAT AT
ALL.
BUT THERE IS A LEVEL OF VIOLENCE
THAT YOU DON’T SEE.
SO YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL
COMMUNITY IN THE SUBURBS,
INCLUDING WOMEN, RIGHT, WOMEN,
THEY WANT SECURITY.
I ENDED WHERE THEY BUILD LOW
INCOME HOUSING PROJECT IN THE
MIDDLE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ENDED IT.
IF BIDEN GETS IN HE SAID IT’S
GOING TO BE AT A MUCH HIGHER
RATE THAN EVER BEFORE.
AND YOU KNOW WHO’S IN CHARGE OF
IT, CORY BOOKER.
OKAY.
SHOOTING THE GUY IN THE BACK,
COULDN’T YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING
DIFFERENT, COULDN’T YOU HAVE
WRESTLED HIM?
IN THE MEANTIME HE MIGHT HAVE
BEEN GOING FOR A WEAPON, IT’S A
WHOLE BIG THING THERE.
BUT THEY CHOKE, LIKE IN A GOLF
TOURNAMENT.
>> YOU’RE NOT COMPARING IT TO
GOLF BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT THE
MEDIA WILL SAY?
>> NO.
I’M SAYING PEOPLE CHOKE.
>> HE COMPARED SHOOTING A BLACK
MAN IN THE BACK SEVEN TIMES TO
MISSING A 3-FOOT GOLF PUTT.
LET’S SAY THAT AGAIN, DONALD
TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, COMPARED SHOOTING
A MAN SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK
WITH MISSING A 3-FOOT GOLF PUTT.
AND ON THE SUBURBS, LOW INCOME
HOUSING, CRIME COMES WITH IT AND
AS LAURA WAS TRYING TO CORRECT
HIM, IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE BUT
CRIME COMES.
AND THEN HE BLURTS OUT WOMEN.
WE’VE GOT TO PROTECT THE WHITE
WOMEN.
AGAIN, GENE ROBINSON.
THIS IS A RACIST TROPE NOT OUT
OF 1955, IT’S OUT OF LIKE 1855.
IT’S OUT OF 1870.
I MEAN, THIS IS -- YOU KNOW,
THIS IS -- AND I -- ONE OTHER
ONE, THE DARK SHADOWS.
PLANES COMPLETELY LOADED WITH --
WITH -- WITH -- IT SOUNDS LIKE
BAD GUYS FROM AVENGER MOVIES.
IT IS SO UNMOORED.
IT IS SO OUT OF LIKE RIGHT
FIELD.
IT IS STRAIGHT FROM THE PAGES OF
Q-ANON.
I JUST GOT TO SAY, MY FRIENDS
AND RELATIVES THAT THINK THIS
GUY IS IT WORTHY OF THEIR VOTE,
GENE, I MUST SAY, I DIDN’T
UNDERSTAND IT THREE YEARS AGO.
IT’S GETTING EVEN MORE DIFFICULT
TO UNDERSTAND TODAY.
THAT MAN ON THAT INTERVIEW WAS
COMPLETELY UNHINGED.
>> YES, I MEAN, THOSE -- LET’S
SEPARATE THIS INTO TWO BUCKETS.
THE STUFF ABOUT THE DARK
SHADOWS, PEOPLE IN THE DARK
SHADOWS, YOU KNOW, YOU’VE NEVER
HEARD OF THEM.
AND SHE’S -- SHE’S LIKE PUZZLED
ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY STOP.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CONSPIRACY
THEORY BUT HE KEEPS GOING.
THAT’S TOTALLY UNHINGED.
THE REST OF IT IS JUST FLATOUT
RACISM OF A KIND --
>> FLATOUT RACISM.
WHITE SUPREMACY.
>> OF A KIND THAT TOM THURMAN,
IN MY YOUTH IN SOUTH CAROLINA
WAS MORE SOPHISTICATED AND
SUBTLE THAN THAT.
HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
SOPHISTICATED AND SUBTLE IN HIS
RACISM THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS RIGHT NOW.
HE’S JUST COMPLETELY -- AND THIS
HAS TO BE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE
DEEP INSIDE.
I THINK.
I DON’T THINK THIS IS JUST
TACTICAL OR STRATEGIC.
I THINK THIS IS WHO DONALD TRUMP
IS, JUST A FLATOUT RACIST.
AND THE 1870 VARIETY,
APPARENTLY.
>> YEAH.
THIS IS NOT LATENT.
THIS IS OVERT.
AND MARK LEIBOVICH, WE CAN TALK
ABOUT HIM COMPARING THE SHOOTING
OF A BLACK MAN -- THAT’S LIKE
MISSING A 3-FOOT PUTT.
THEY CHOKED.
THEY JUST CHOKED.
THAT’S ONE THING.
BUT AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT THE
SUBURBS AND BRINGING LOW INCOME
HOUSING INTO THE SUBURBS AND
TALKING ABOUT THE CRIME THAT
COMES WITH IT.
AND TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN LIKE
WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR WHITE
WOMEN.
HE SEES THAT HE’S DOWN IN THE
SUBURBS.
HE THINKS THIS IS HOW HE WINS
VOTES IN THE SUBURBS, WITHOUT
UNDERSTANDING THIS IS EXACTLY
WHY HE’S BEEN LOSING WHITE,
EDUCATED VOTERS IN THE SUBURBS
SINCE CHARLOTTESVILLE.
>> YEAH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT
PUBLIC OPINION ON TRUMP AND HIS
VARIOUS ISSUES.
WHAT HE REALLY LOST ON THIS
SUMMER WAS WHENEVER HE TALKED
ABOUT RACE, WHENEVER, YOU KNOW,
THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AROUND
LAFAYETTE PARK, AROUND THE
DEMONSTRATIONS IN THIS JUNE AND
THE LATE SPRING.
THAT’S WHEN HE REALLY LOST
SUBURBAN VOTERS.
PEOPLE WILL FOCUS ON THE BITES
OF THAT INTERVIEW LAST NIGHT,
THE GOLF PUTT THING, THE 3-FOOT
PUTT THING.
BUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE RIFF IS
THE KIND OF THING THAT SUBURBAN
VOTERS, ANY VOTERS PERSUADABLE
IN ANY DIRECTION WOULD SEE AND
WONDER IS THIS GOING ANYWHERE
GOOD?
THE PLANE WITH THE PEOPLE
DRESSED IN BLACK, RIGHT, IS --
REMEMBER WHEN ROSS PEROT SAID
THAT THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE
KIND OF SAID GEORGE BUSH WAS
GOING TO DISRUPT MY DAUGHTER’S
WEDDING AND THAT BECAME THE
THING THAT PEOPLE FOCUSED ON FOR
WEEKS IN THAT ELECTION IN 1992.
THIS WAS AN ENTIRE INTERVIEW OF
THAT, AND REALLY YOU SORT OF
WONDER, LOOK THE CONTOURS OF THE
RACE SEEM TO BE COMING INTO
FOCUS THE LAST FEW DAYS.
MAYBE THE POLLS WERE TIGHTENING
AFTER THE CONVENTIONS, MAYBE A
CONTRAST WAS BEING DRAWN IN A
WAY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A PATH
TO VICTORY AND SETTING THE RACE
ON A COURSE THAT’S IN A BETTER
PLACE FOR THE PRESIDENT.
BUT YOU WONDER WHAT SOMETHING
LIKE THIS DOES TO ANY KIND OF
UNIFIED MESSAGE IN ANY KIND OF
PLACE THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS
TRYING TO BRING WHERE THEIR
MESSAGE IS.
>> THIS KIND OF TALK, ROSS PEROT
WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT BLACK
PANTHERS SCALING THE WALLS OF
HIS YARD TO DISRUPT HIS
DAUGHTER’S WEDDING, THAT
FINISHED HIS CAMPAIGN.
TRENT LOT SAYS A STRAY WORD OR
TWO COMPLIMENTING STRUM THURMAN,
ENDS HIS CAREER.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON TV THAT HAVE
SAID FAR LESS THAN WHAT DONALD
TRUMP SAID LAST NIGHT, ENDED
THEIR CAREER.
DONALD TRUMP, I GUARANTEE YOU,
ANYBODY ON TELEVISION COMPARED
THE KILLING OF A BLACK MAN SEVEN
TIMES TO MISSING A 3-FOOT PUTT,
THEY’D LOSE THEIR JOB BY THE END
OF THE DAY.
IF A GOVERNOR SAID THAT, A
UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT SAID THAT,
IF YOU HAD A CEO SAYING, BOY,
THAT LOW INCOME HOUSING IN
SUBURBS, WHITE WOMEN ARE GOING
TO BE IN TROUBLE AND CRIME IS
GOING TO GO UP, THEY WOULD LOSE
THEIR JOB.
THE BOARD WOULD VOTE THEM OFF BY
THE END OF THE DAY.
A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH IF
HE OR SHE SAID SUCH THINGS WOULD
