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Speaker 2 (7m 17s): I pulled up the, the shot
of us in the video. The headband is meant.
People are not going to forget me. They are
not going to forget this episode. And I guess
we'll start with the Washington professional
football team, the Washington football team.
Yeah, let's do it. What's there to talk about
Sean. They were three and 13 last year they
had had, they had a rookie quarterback who
looked horrible, horrible, Dwayne Haskins.
Yes. Very horrible. He didn't play a lot of
games, but, and this team played some good
defense, but still they, they won three games.
They weren't tremendously unlucky
Speaker 0 (7m 59s): Kramer, courtesy of your
friends over football outsiders, worst DVOs
for rookie quarterback between 2008 and 2019.
Dwayne Haskins comes in fifth. Overall. Jared
Goff is number one.
Speaker 2 (8m 11s): I'm looking at the list
too. It's a murderer's row of guys. You don't
want to.
Speaker 0 (8m 16s): Jared Goff. Number one,
Josh Rose. Number two, Jimmy Clawson number
three, Blaine Gabbert number four, Wayne Haskins
pulling in the five spot. Blake Bortles Matthew
Stafford, Josh Allen to Sean Kaiser, Christian
ponder. Oh, you know what? So Matthew Stafford,
I think that's probably your best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (8m 36s): I'm doing a deep dive
with, with this list as my starting point
for a little, I'm going to look back at the
K metric because I have a feeling we had,
we got a lot of K metric guys on this list.
Wayne Haskins. We talked about the concern
around his doughy body. We talked about the
concern with him not being an exciting prospect.
We watched him play. He made some plays, but
he also looked like trash. And I think the
problem with the small sample size we're dealing
with with Dwayne Haskins is he was really,
really, really, really bad.
So the only the people talking about the sample
size are the people that are like, well, maybe
he's not awful. Maybe he's just below average,
which would be a great step forward for a
team that projects to have potentially a good
defense.
Speaker 0 (9m 22s): Yeah. I mean, if you're,
if you're in the Haskins mindset, if you're
talking yourself into Dwayne Haskins, you
look at his last two games. He was 31 to 43,
a 9.2 yards for temps 394 yards for touchdowns,
zero interceptions.
Speaker 2 (9m 36s): It's a small sample size.
Speaker 0 (9m 38s): And I think you also point
out that as coach Jay Gruden clearly haired
hated his quarterback, hated Dwayne Haskins.
Didn't want him to succeed in any way. And
Speaker 2 (9m 49s): I think by the way, I
think it was on our Instagram feed. I saw
a, a clip of a arena football game between
Kurt Warner and Jay Gruden back in the day.
So that made me smile.
Speaker 0 (10m 0s): Oh man. Jigger is just
probably smoking cigs, hanging out at some
college party. That was always weird when
that got leaked out. But yeah, what's he doing?
I think
Speaker 2 (10m 10s): I was onto something
there with that sleepovers, you know?
Speaker 0 (10m 14s): Yeah. I think if you're,
I think if you're a Haskins backer or you
want to talk yourself into it, that's where
you go and they bring in, they bring in Ron
Rivera who by all accounts looks like a solid
coach. Nope. It is a solid coach by all accounts.
The differences,
Speaker 2 (10m 27s): His player's coach, old,
old school guy. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (10m 30s): Yeah. And it seems somewhat
competent. Ron Rivera, the differences with
him, Ron Rivera. Could you imagine a more
horrible situation? He's even admitted that,
you know, short, the short off season, that's
going to be tough. Cause the COVID he has
a young team again, like he even said I was
listening to interviews like, yeah, I don't
know how much these young players will be
able to contribute right away, huge red flag.
Then you got them changing their name from
the Redskins to just Washington football team.
Speaker 2 (10m 57s): It feels like it matters
is the ultimate.
Speaker 0 (10m 58s): Fuck you. Then, then
he has to deal with Derrius Guice situation,
domestic violence. They had to get rid of
him. And if that wasn't enough,
Speaker 2 (11m 6s): By the way, one of the
bright spots on the offense was his perf like
small sample size, but his performance. So
poor, poor Ron Rivera.
Speaker 0 (11m 15s): Yeah. And last but not
least, he gets diagnosed with cancer. All
I'll do while trying to take over a team,
put this together in a short off season. And
man, like, even if Ron Rivera is a super competent
coach, which he seems like not an amazing
coach, but a guy who can like steady the ship.
This is just like a worst case scenario and
all different fronts. Like just imagine him
opening up his email. Like what kind of shit
is this guy dealing with? It seems like a
nightmare.
Speaker 2 (11m 42s): And they are, it sounds
like Jack Del Rio is also changing the defense
schematically. So the strength of the team
could even be crippled by the fact that they're
just doing something a little bit different.
Speaker 0 (11m 55s): Yeah. And I think that
is as far as like the strengths of this, a
Washington football team, I think it is, I
think it's their front seven in particular
that that really is pretty strong for them.
Speaker 2 (12m 8s): They were fourth and adjusted
SAC rate last year, Sean. And they added the
number two pick chase young, which by all
accounts, you know, he he's off the charts
hard to see him failing as a prospect.
Speaker 0 (12m 20s): Yeah. And th that you
see that clip of him tackling Adrian Peterson,
that it like went viral. I mean, it was a
cool, it was like, alright, he tackled him.
I don't know. It didn't seem like it was that
awesome. That a way that was the
Speaker 2 (12m 33s): Alien DNA being passed
down because Adrian Peterson has the alien
DNA going through his blood. I believe maybe
it's alien vs predator who knows,
Speaker 0 (12m 45s): Certainly has the predator,
dreadlocks,
Speaker 2 (12m 46s): Chase young. I think
there's no reason to believe he won't be a
force this year just based on looking at what
he did and bossa. I mean, they've very, very
similar parallel. Bossa was able to come in
and immediately be a force. So if chase young
can be a force to an already good pass rush,
who kind of bolstered the backend with the,
with, with some kind of mid tier defensive
back pickups. I think it all, if you come
back to Haskins, you come back to is Haskins
trash is Haskins, just a guy that doesn't
understand how to play quarterback in the
NFL.
When your SAC rate doubles, when you win,
you win, win, win as a team. When you go from
case Keenum to Dwayne Haskins, that's a problem
that tells me Duane. I mean, case kingdom's
already, as you say, poor foot work, hold
the ball a little bit too long. Dwayne Haskins
is dictating this, this SAC rate. And, and
it's not, it's certainly not going to, to
help, especially with looking at that team.
You know, you can almost say the offensive
line potentially is the weak spot and you
know, Haskins much like Danny dimes, the optimist
will be looking for that big jump from year
one to year two.
I think if you're a Haskins backer, you can
be even more optimistic in that. He only played
such a small amount of games that you're going
to, you know, the curve is coming
Speaker 0 (14m 8s): And, and kind of a quick
thought on Haskins to me, I realized he didn't
have it when his first victory, instead of
going out there and kneeling the ball, he
literally goes into the crowd and takes a
selfie. I mean, you know, as an old man dealing
with millennials, that's could there be a
more millennial thing than leaving the game,
your first victory and you go into the stands
to take a selfie with someone. How does that
even get on your radar to think? And I can
understand if it was like a super hot chick,
but it was just like an average looking fan.
I don't know what he was thinking.
Speaker 2 (14m 43s): Okay. When the coach
says there's no, I in team Haskins is the
guy that says yeah, but there's a me, so yeah.
Not, not a good look for the, I think again
though, it, you know, tools around them, McClaren
McLaren turned into a pretty, pretty good
receiver. I mean, AP, he still looked good.
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (15m 3s): I mean, it's crazy. I
thought he was dead like three years ago,
but he just keeps running the ball. Hey bro.
And coming back to that Ron Rivera interview,
I listened to, I always thought Antonio Gibson
was kind of a sneaky fantasy play. And on
two separate interviews, he said, quote, we
have a role for Antonio Gibson. And even in
the other one, he's expected that play that
Christian McCaffrey role. So full point PPR,
I mean you can get in Tonio Gibson super late.
I think there's definitely, it makes sense
to do that, but you're right.
Like other than that though, and Steven Sims
is a writer.
Speaker 2 (15m 37s): McLaren is also way too
cheap and fantasy for a team that, you know,
they're going to have opportunities to score
touchdowns because the defense could be good.
And I think the narrative of how this team
does anything productive this year is they,
they become a team where Haskins in a high
variance way has some really good games and
the defense plays well enough to keep them
in most of the games, perhaps, you know, my
real take on this team is perhaps this is
a team we're looking at next year. That was
close in a lot of games. Typical riverboat,
sorry, analytical, Ron.
I think, I think this is a team that's going
to come up short in a bunch of games because
of the inconsistencies of Haskins, married
with a defense. That could be really, really
good. So yeah. I mean, I, I'm not, you know,
it's typical. I think I said Redskins a couple
of times, it's typical
Speaker 0 (16m 28s): Dropping the bombs, right?
We're going to have to go back and flip all
these out
Speaker 2 (16m 31s): Typical Washington football
team. And I think they're just, they're going
to be a non, a nonthreatening factor that
is a thorn in the side. Like I'm really excited.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know how, if
I want to end up playing this team earlier
in the schedule because they, if nothing else
it pass, rush is not something you got to
work. It's just, it's just instinctual. And
if, if the defense is ahead of the offense
that much early, and I think we might see
based on that college game, we're going to
see some shit shows in the national football
also FCS.
True, true pre season's going to be a problem.
We're not talking about it enough, but week
one is going to be a handicapping nightmare.
It's going to be wild. And you're really gonna
want to just, I think, attack the teams that
have done it before and have that consistency
year to year.
Speaker 0 (17m 25s): Well, and they're changing
the scheme to me. You said they kind of shored
up the back defensive backfield a little bit.
I would like to point out a man by the name
of Ronald Darby. That guy is a huge liability
and you know,
Speaker 2 (17m 37s): Josh Norman playing snaps
last year,
Speaker 0 (17m 39s): They play the Eagles
week one. And if you remember, week one last
year to Sean Jackson just toasted them. Yeah.
So I think that could be a real issue. Now
they're front seven at their front seven can
get enough pressure consistently to help out
the defensive backfield. We've definitely
seen that one.
Speaker 2 (17m 54s): If they'd be going after
an offensive line week one, that's a little
banged up.
Speaker 0 (17m 58s): I'm definitely worried
about the Redskins a D line, especially week
one,
Speaker 2 (18m 4s): The run they can have,
they are a top notch run defense. So I think,
Speaker 0 (18m 9s): But Ryan, what I'm really
worried about, and maybe this is crazy, but
from what I'm reading that he's actually taking
snaps in 11 on 11. What if, what if Alex Smith
comes back in the second half of the season
and they have this good defense and you bring
it Alex Smith, game manager, extraordinary.
Isn't that? Isn't this Washington team the
way it's set up right now, the perfect team
for Alex Smith.
Speaker 2 (18m 31s): And that's that's the,
the lead here is everyone's focusing on Haskins
and will he take a step forward? Well, you
get, you get to see give them a couple of
games, but I mean, by all accounts, he's ready
to play. Quote unquote.
Speaker 0 (18m 50s): Yeah. I mean, it's still
like he has to go out there and do it. And
he hasn't been playing in any preseason games.
I can't imagine he's getting a ton of snaps
in, in, in practice. Cause they're trying
to get a Duane righty. But there is a scenario
where Alex Smith comes, comes back, wins.
I'm a couple of games. Couldn't you just see
him coming in
Speaker 2 (19m 9s): And the ball, the age,
Adrian Peterson dumped the ball off,
Speaker 0 (19m 13s): Throw it to McLaurin.
Like I think there's a formula where if, if
Haskins, it doesn't do well. And like the
first half of the season, Ron Rivera is not
tied to him at all. He could easily say like,
throw this guy off his riverboat and just
keep going down that river and Dwayne Haskins.
Well, he, he, he doesn't
Speaker 2 (19m 31s): Strike me as the kind
of guy that's gonna tolerate inconsistent,
shitty quarterback. Oh wait, wait a second.
He had cam nude on this team.
Speaker 0 (19m 41s): You're right there. There's
a lot of crossover between the yeah. The selfie
in the stands is right out of the cam Newton
playbook when cam saw that and he's like,
Aw man, why didn't I
Speaker 2 (19m 52s): Yo tell him it was a
business decision. Alright, Sean, let's do
we do we, did we talk about any, any additions?
I think we mentioned some along the way we
talked about it, Tom Thomas Davis coming over
Kendall fuller on the band, how much he has
left. You know, though that there is something
to be said about the reason that he was brought
over I'm sure was so leadership. Yeah. Ron
Rivera is just installing some S some lieutenants.
And I, I think everything you hear about a
guy like Thomas Davis is he is a respected
guy.
So we know that matters, right? Sean, as a
championship winning coach, I know that matters
a big, big loss. Eric Flowers, again, somehow
someone decided to pay him again. You look
at the losses for this team. Keenum caner,
Eric Flowers, Josh Norman and Quintin Dunbar,
who somehow,
Speaker 0 (20m 43s): Somehow got a snitch
Speaker 2 (20m 46s): On the Baker, the Reynolds,
Speaker 0 (20m 49s): The guy that was, yeah,
it was involved in like robbing that high
stakes Madden game. But then it turns out
it was all the giants quarterback, cornerbacks
fault Dion, her Baker.
Speaker 2 (20m 57s): Oh shit. Anyway, I think
if you look at this, combine it with the fact
that Ron Rivera is a guy who's respected by
players who have played for him. He's clearly
looking to change the tone, bringing in a
coach like Jack Del Rio. That's a tone setting
coach. You know, you're bringing in coaches
that can get out on the field and knock people
around old school, NFC East, again, they were
three and 13 last year going well under their
wind total of six, five and a half is the
number this year showing minus one 20 on the
over minus one 10 on the under 16, the one
for the Redskins to win the division 75 to
one to win the conference 150 to one to win
the super bowl.
You're Alex Smith theory blows all of this
out of the wall.
Speaker 0 (21m 44s): I'm saying if he is that
Alex Smith that we last saw, I mean, I think
he was what six and two before he destroyed
his leg. So there is a world where he can
manage this type of game. And Ron Rivera would
like a veteran quarterback just to kind of
save face a little bit, especially if ownership
may be changed his hand, they finally forced
Dan cider out. You want to have a decent record
so that they don't clean house. Once again,
Speaker 2 (22m 6s): Ron Rivera also has experience
being a coach. When an owner goes through
a scandal and sells the team,
Speaker 0 (22m 14s): Dan Snyder, like the
latest thing came out that they had like guys
in their video department or whatever, put
together like a highlight reel of like nip
slips. And like, we're like the cheerleaders
change, you know, whatever it's dude, you're
a billionaire. You can't get laid on your
own. You need like to go some creepy, like
a spy cam on these chicks. Like it's just
such a, just talk to a woman. You're a billionaire.
You sh if you can't get laid that's right.
Speaker 2 (22m 42s): I haven't really learned
anything from Robert Kraft and Jeffrey Epstein.
These guys are weirdos
Speaker 0 (22m 47s): Robert Kraft. That was,
I think that was more a time efficiency thing,
like seven habits of highly effective people.
One just to pay them for the sex like that
to me makes way more sense than like, yeah,
you're not paying to have sex. You're paying
them to leave. Right. Where was that from?
Speaker 2 (23m 4s): I don't know. Every guy
in Vegas, every, every old guy trying to pass
down some wisdom to a young guy in Vegas.
You know the thing about a prostitute. You're
not paying for the sex. You're paying for
them to leave, or you're not paying for them
to come and you're paying for them to leave.
All right, Sean, let's do it. The first four
Philly at home at Arizona at Cleveland, Baltimore
at home, I'll say this. Those are, those are
really tremendously scary spots for both Baltimore
and Philly for the same exact reason.
If this defense is right and they can shut
down the run and they can do something. And
who knows, maybe the offense does a little
something, right? We, we saw games. You mentioned
you called out the two weeks where he looked
like ACEs. Yeah. So, and you know, who knows
Arizona? I think we're holding. These are
the two like ultimate hype teams, right? The
hype team this year and the hype team last
year on the road. Don't know very interesting
starting for it because this can go well for
the Redskins. And I'm sorry, this can go well
for the football team.
But I think they unfortunately too much class
in the Eagles and Ravens and the road games
are just weird enough. I'll say one in three.
Speaker 3 (24m 17s): Yeah. Ron Rivera himself
said, this is going to be a challenge. And
that he's, he's the managing expectations.
Speaker 2 (24m 22s): So this is a man who
likes to gamble on river boats,
Speaker 3 (24m 26s): One and three for the,
for the football team. I just think their
schedule is a lot tougher than you would expect
for the last place team
Speaker 2 (24m 33s): Should inform them that
we already own. We have the hashtag TFT covered
from the football tournament. So they're going
to try and steal that next for Rams at home
at giants Dallas at home, bi-week eight giants
and home coming out of the buy at Detroit.
Speaker 3 (24m 51s): Oh wait, I think you
did a
Speaker 2 (24m 53s): Detroit. No, I'm sorry.
That was for, so yeah. Rams at home at giants
Dallas at home, bi-week giants off the buy
tough stretch, tough stretch. But again, you
know, I think they typically play the Cowboys
and Cowboys. Defensive backfield is good.
We will get to them in a bit, but Holy shit,
like if you're gonna, if you're a quarterback
this year, you're going to be licking your
chops to play this cowboy secondary in my
opinion. And so I think again, their ability
to stop the run, Sean, it makes me believe
they can win some of these games.
They'll split with the giants. And I'll say
too, I say that
Speaker 3 (25m 34s): I think they could win
too. They could beat the giants both times
so they could steal one from the Cowboys or
the Rams, certainly in the robot.
Speaker 2 (25m 41s): We're so mean to the
giants this year. I may, I don't know if I'm
going back next year. Shown next for, at Detroit,
Cincinnati at home at Dallas on Thursday.
Yeah. It's Thanksgiving at the Thanksgiving
game at Pittsburgh. Jean. That is a, they
have an ad Dallas on Thanksgiving at Pittsburgh,
at San Francisco, three game road stretch
there. So schedule's getting tougher. They'll
beat Cincy at home. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (26m 9s): Yeah. I got, I got one
win. Cause even, even Detroit in Detroit,
that's a tough spot. Bangles who knows what
they'll be doing. And to finish out in Pittsburgh
stuff,
Speaker 2 (26m 19s): San Francisco, Seattle
at home Carolina at home at Philly, they can
definitely be a Carolina at home. I'll give
them that when I'll say one in three, not
the worst season. And I, I don't, I don't
want to you, would he got you?
Speaker 3 (26m 33s): Yeah. One in three. I
had a lot of tough spots.
Speaker 2 (26m 35s): We were tremendously
optimistic for this team. We still got them
to six, which is over. I got six. I thought
I was five. And you had them go one in three,
two and two, one in three, one in three. Oh,
sorry. We both had them go five and 11, five
and 11 faulty math on my bag. Yeah. And that,
I feel like we were fairly pessimistic for,
for them. We got them almost to the wind.
Totally. It does scare me away from recommending
the under. Here's why I would say under, cause
I think Haskins is bad.
Yeah. I mean the Alex Smith theory scares
me a little bit, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (27m 12s): Cause there's a, there's
a, like I said, like there's a world where
Alex Smith comes back. He balls out shit gets
crazy. And that defense, like I dunno, but
again, are they really gonna do that? And
you know, management wants him to play Haskins
to see what they have. So the, the chance
of Alex Smith actually doing that is probably
crazy, but 150 to one. I don't know what other,
what other teams do you think have a sh I
couldn't again, the Alex Smith thing I think
could be real.
That's all I'm going to say. Well, we've Alex
Smith comes in the second half of the season.
I think a lot of these bets go out the window.
And again, I'm just looking to play a lot
of unders in this red
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about this Redskins teams, cause you're saying,
Hey, they could have an elite team based on
that front seven something based on that pass
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Speaker 2 (30m 29s): Just to be clear. Cause
I don't think we were, we were both are five
and 11. We're both saying under yeah,
Speaker 0 (30m 35s): Both saying under none
of the, you didn't tell me what years they
were gonna make the playoffs. I'll look that
up, Ryan. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30m 44s): Just, just sorry, just
taking care of taking care of some housekeeping.
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (30m 48s): The Washington football
team, plus six 25 to make the playoffs minus
1300 to miss the playoff.
Speaker 2 (30m 55s): Isn't that if you're
a rep, if you're sorry, if you're a football
team fan, if you're a football fan, isn't
that the bet you take or six and a half to
one six and a quarter to one, whatever you
just said, plus six 25 defense to be good
enough for them to win eight games and sneak
in.
Speaker 0 (31m 14s): Well, how about this?
Instead of that, you look to a Alex Smith,
12 to one comeback player of the year. So
I think there's a chance he could get it,
even if they don't have a good season. Like
if he just goes randomly like three and one,
those last four games is going to lose the
Eagles. But if he just comes in and goes like
four and why it's such a great story as compared
to like cam Newton or JJ watt or Ralph Lewisburg.
Speaker 2 (31m 37s): I mean, if cam Newton
turns the tide in new England and gets people
wearing hats, if people are dawning hats and
scarfs like cam Newton, I'd say he gets whatever
fucking award that can happen.
Speaker 0 (31m 49s): If he can get the chatter
heads to wear scarves. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31m 53s): It's a, it's a, I don't
even know what are, it's a Derby classic.
Alright. Cowboys time, cowgirls time,
Speaker 0 (32m 2s): The cowgirls America's
team has made the divisional round just six
times in those 24 years since their last super
bowl and our Owen six when they've made it
there,
Speaker 2 (32m 12s): The wind total was nine
last year. And when we were like, Oh, well
they're going to go eight and eight. So you
should take the honor. They went eight and
eight, Sean. They underperformed by three
wins. They, they, their pie wins 11, 11 last
year. So they certainly a team. You circle
as a regression candidate. Here's the problem.
They're, they're rolling in big fat Mike McCarthy.
And I don't know, I don't know about you,
but it seems as though everyone forgotten
about him, they forgot.
And Aaron Rogers ran them out of town. Did
you know? Yeah. The, the, the outsider has
mentioned his extremely predictable, predictable
play calling AK calling the place at the same
play over and over again. Do you, did you
know that he was part of his pitch? The Cowboys
is that he's going to build an and he was
going to build an analytical team.
Speaker 3 (33m 3s): So it was big news that
he went and hung out with the pro football
focus guys to learn and analytics him. And
Gettleman
Speaker 2 (33m 10s): Farley. He's literally
like Jerry Jones is David's anyway, you know,
I guess to me, the story is all about Jason
Garrett taking his talents to New York, being
appropriately leveled. Once again, run beautifully
over my shoulder, running out often getting
the most out of
Speaker 3 (33m 36s): They didn't even, he
wasn't calling the plays last year. That was
all killed them
Speaker 2 (33m 38s): More so, but from a,
from a man, you got to give him some credit
for what he did with Dakota. I think one area
that we unfairly told him to go get his fucking
shine box is he did develop a fourth round
quarterback into a pro bowl situation where
now Jerry Jones is squirming because he's
got to pay him. And I think it's fair to give
Jason Garrett shit for all the things that
he sucked at being mediocre
Speaker 3 (34m 9s): One in six and one being
the bed
Speaker 2 (34m 11s): In game, head coach being
a puppet where Jerry Jones is like probably
up to the elbow is right up his ass
Speaker 3 (34m 20s): Man. Jamie, Jerry really
has to want to do that to Mike McCarthy to
get involved there. Cause that is, that's
not a great visual.
Speaker 2 (34m 29s): Oh, but he did develop,
he did have hit. I mean, as a quarterback
himself, I would find it hard to believe that
he did. He had nothing to do with the development
of rain, Dakota, Prescott, Ryan,
Speaker 3 (34m 43s): Your reach, you're coming
up with new ways to compliment the Cowboys
on the NFCS podcast, the Cowboys and common
winning that's part of the New York job
Speaker 2 (34m 53s): With Jason Garrett out
of the building, rain Dakota, Prescott will
be lost. He won't have that special copy of
drops of Jupiter that Jason Garrett made special
on the cassette tape.
Speaker 3 (35m 6s): You know, I was, I was
wondering like, why is he going out of his
way to praise Jason Garrett? And I didn't
even occur to me that you're just playing
chess, bro. I'm playing chess, laying the
groundwork for him to somehow save.
Speaker 2 (35m 21s): Can I tell you a serious,
serious coaching problem? I would have if
I'm a, if I'm a Cowboys fan. Sure. Did you
know they're all pensive line coach last year,
Mark Colombo, six foot eight former offensive
lineman himself. You know Sean. Yup. A guidance
to a guy that's going to get out there, get
this, get his hands on you and show you how
to do it the right way. What have the Cowboys
had? Fantastic offensive line. Yeah. You know,
who's not in the building anymore because
he's in New York, all rise with Joe judge
teaching the boys, how to get their hands
on people and move men.
Speaker 0 (35m 58s): Are they also taping
tennis balls with their hands? Or is that
just
Speaker 2 (36m 1s): The defensive bag? Mark
Colombo? Not in the building anymore. You
wouldn't believe it. Who is the new offensive
line coach for the Dallas cowboy? Sean? I
don't know. Okay. Joe Philbin. Oh real. Are
you serious? You're going from a six, eight
mountain of a man who can show you how it's
done because he played in the league and now
you're bringing in the ultimate South park
guidance counselor, horrible head coach had
no had no chance being the head coach of that
dolphins team. And he's going to be your offensive
line.
Does he look like an offensive line coach
to you now? And they were going to bring back
Ben McAdoo too,
Speaker 0 (36m 39s): To be an offensive line
coach. You either have to be a super old guy,
super fat guy. You have to be chewing tobacco.
Speaker 2 (36m 45s): Have people forgotten
that Ben McAdoo was it Mike McCartney's coaching?
Speaker 0 (36m 50s): So to like Philbin is
one of those early pioneers of coaches getting
exposed on hard knocks. And you're like, Oh
my God, this guy's an NFL coach. He should
not. I mean, Dave Campo, of course we remember
him where you're like, Oh my God, this guy
shouldn't be a coach anymore. And, and Philbin
was early on that train where you're just
like, why would anyone listen to this dude?
He just seems like some egg nerd. You need,
you need to be a giant fat guy.
Speaker 2 (37m 16s): So as, as, as a guy who's
been in the trenches, Sean, you have,
Speaker 0 (37m 22s): I can't say what's going
on there run. You don't want to know have
to be alarmed. What else?
Speaker 2 (37m 26s): This is concerning. This
is the next level shouldn't bring into this
podcast. But this is concerning to you now,
what have I also told you, Sean, the most
important position on the line, the center
he retired. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (37m 41s): Do you want to be a part
of the, of the new era, Dallas, Calvin
Speaker 2 (37m 45s): He's got injury problems.
We know the track record of this cowboy steam.
When he misses time, it's not about Dak or
I'm sorry. Apologies. It's not about you rain.
It's not about you. Big fat Zeke Elliot. It's
not about a Mari Cooper. It's not about CD
land. AKA Kevin Durant. It's about Tyron Smith.
And if he, if this offensive line takes a
step back because of the coaching, because
Travis Frederick is not there anymore. And
Tyron Smith misses some times that the house
of cards could come tumbling down and then
Sean music to my ears, the secondary, the
only bright spot he's he's out, the goddamn
building in secondary is gonna be a problem.
Robert Quinn was really good. They lost him
the path they, the Michael Bennett,
Speaker 0 (38m 36s): Gerald McCoy also,
Speaker 2 (38m 38s): I mean nice transition
Speaker 0 (38m 40s): Contributors to the defensive
line. It's coming back to the offensive line
real quick. Everyone gave me so much shit.
Zeke's not in your top 10 running backs Zeke.
Are you kidding me? Zeke Zeke's production
Ryan. It continues on a downward trend. Rookie
year, 108.7 yards per game. Second year 98.3
third year 95.6 last year 84.8. Wow. He's
already has almost 1200 career caries and
this is a guy not taking care of his body.
Like the dude just looks like a giant fat
ass. I mean the train down in Cabo. What on
how to drink margarita? It's like, come on,
dude. You're not training Tracy
Speaker 2 (39m 19s): In Cabo. No one trains
in COVID
Speaker 0 (39m 22s): How to take ecstasy properly.
Like you're not going there. And that just
kind of speaks to Zeke as a person that he's
just, I mean, he's a big boy. He had a ton
of carers. He's in college. He's had a ton
of caries this far and Cowboys. I mean they're
they already paid him for some reason. If
you're going to get a draft chapter running
back high, which again, not a good idea. Longterm,
you got to just, and maybe Cowboys are doing
the right thing. Just blow in the tires out
on this guy. As soon as
Speaker 2 (39m 48s): Five year, five year
lease, hand it back here. Your keys, your
problem. Now, Sean, the last thing I was going
to say about the defense is, you know, who
their defensive coordinator is. I really went
into the coaching area. Yeah, I like it. Mike
Nolan. Remember him. Remember last time, last
time we, we, we heard from him, he was destroying
the Atlanta Falcons defense taking the number
eight DVO D VOA defense in 2011. And by 2013,
ha ha had them at 28th, by 2014, they were
dead last in the national football league.
So I mean, I, I
Speaker 0 (40m 23s): Debra everyone's hyping
up, you know, the rookie CD, lamb and Gallup,
and they're gonna be thrown all over the place,
but let's, let's look at this. Realistically.
They also
Speaker 2 (40m 32s): Darwin actually fantasy
deep. You're playing one of these crazy deep
10, 10 bench spot leagues, but someone's gotta
be the fucking tight end.
Speaker 0 (40m 40s): It's true. But Randall
Cobb, they lost her Randall cotton. You think
like, Oh, Randall, Cobb Randall Cobb had 828
receiving yards and 6.1 yards after the catch,
like he had an impact on this Cowboys team.
So even if CD lamb can get 828 yards in a
season, that's a pretty damn good rookie season.
And you're still just back to where you were
as far as total passing yards. And again,
Speaker 2 (41m 1s): And you got to pick me.
I mean, Winton, that was productive, right?
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (41m 4s): Yeah. And Dakota, that
was like a career year. Last year. People
forget because he only went eight and eight.
But I think if you're expecting him to go
higher than he did last year, as far as his
stats and numbers, I think that's, I think
last year was the good year. Yeah. That was
the outlier year. I think it's going to be
tough for him to do it again. Coming back
to the defense. Now you have a second round
rookie quarterback, a cornerback expected
to start, like you're going to have your hands
full Trayvon digs. And sometimes quarterbacks
come and can do okay.
Starting, but generally, I mean, if you're
a
Speaker 2 (41m 39s): Even Latimer, if you
looked at the numbers, like he wasn't a leader
or anything, he just, he had he meet, he had
good turnover. Yeah. He hit a good turnover
season, but you're still gonna get beat rookie
quarterbacks get beat. And I think if you're
a Cowboys fan, you're, you're winning shootouts
this year, you're winning the race to 30.
Cause I don't think your defense is going
to be that reliable. And I don't think it's
going to be a race to 20. I think that one
of the concerns, if you're a Cowboys fan is
the fact that a, what if rains says, what
of rains Cape or abilities matched up nicely
or more nicely with what they were doing under
Garrett and you know, whoever was dictating,
what was going on there?
I'm blanking on his name, the Boise state
quarterback, Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore is
still there. So who knows, is he still going
to influence the big fat guy? I don't think
so. His whole emo is his fucking orphans.
I got to imagine they're going to shift it.
Part of what Dak is good at is the vertical
passing. If you look at his two good years,
it's be all about the vertical passing. So
I, I do question, I do wonder like completely
objectively, if it makes sense for this office
to shift too much.
So maybe it won't, but you know, I think there's
going to be so much stress on the offense
to score 30 points every game. Cause the defense
is going to suck that we're going to see,
we're going to see this, this house of cards
fall apart, Sean. And when, when you're looking
at a wind total of nine and a half minus one
60 on the over plus one 30 on the under, Oh
wow. We, we know what this team is and this
team will forever be an eight and eight team
Sean and w you know, the offensive line concerns
is our big, because this team has always been
as that offensive line has gone.
And I can't stress to you enough. The move
from Mark Colombo to Joe Philbin is the move
of the division in my mind, because it takes
the Cowboys out of the consideration for a
team that can win this division in my mind.
Speaker 0 (43m 42s): And I think the way to
beat the Cowboys is going to be to pound the
rock, keep their offense off the field, keep
them at a sync. The 2019 Cowboys defense played
the easiest schedule of the opposing Russian
offenses. But in 2020, they are projected
to face the NFLs ninth toughest schedule of
runoff fences. So I think they're really going
to get tested you. We already went over all,
all the guys, they lost on the D line. I think
they're going to be susceptible to the deep
throw, and I think they're going to have trouble
with the run. So if you're looking to take
down the Cowboys, I think you pound the rock
and really just keep them off the, in the
same way.
That's how people beat the Packers last year,
even though they, they were a decent team
and won a bunch of games, I think that's kind
of the formula to beat this Cowboys team.
Speaker 2 (44m 24s): Well, and I, I, you know,
what, what worries me, Sean is what if the
offense is really good, but then again,
Speaker 3 (44m 33s): The defense feels like
a huge liability.
Speaker 2 (44m 35s): I think the stress of
the defense sucking and they're gonna, I can't
wait for the press conference where they lose
like 33 31, 28. And we got to hear McCarthy
talk about, I would fucking his, I love that.
I love that was the higher Sean. We should
go through the schedule before we do. I gave
you the wind total. It was nine and a half
the division there favored minus one, 10 plus
700 to win the conference 14 to one to win
the super bowl. That's crazy at Mike.
McCarthy's the coach, right? Yeah. Okay. First
four at Rams to open the season. I love that
spot for the Rams Atlanta, the new stadium,
Atlanta, Atlanta, no fans, of course, Atlanta
at home at Seattle Cleveland at home. I'll
tell you what. I love Atlanta coming in to
Dallas early. Again, continuity. It matters.
It's going to matter early in the season this
year, more than more than ever.
And I think when you're changing an offense
and you're at least changing, I gotta imagine
you're changing aspects of this offense and
it's going to be a little bit different. And,
and when you have a defense that's weak and
not going to be ahead of anyone. I don't,
I don't like your chances on the road. So
scratch those road games to start. Can Atlanta
come to town? Can Atlanta come to Dallas and
just outscore them? That offense is going
to shrink
Speaker 3 (46m 3s): The sake of argument.
Yes. Although I think the cowboy or the Falcons
kind of suck. So,
Speaker 2 (46m 8s): But isn't that the kind
of team that randomly beats the Cowboys because
they can score 40, right?
Speaker 3 (46m 13s): You're right. I mean
like, look at this Cowboys roster who on that
roster is gal guarding, Julio Jones. And then
if that goes, yeah, if that guy's garden,
Julio Jones, who's guarding captain. Rick.
I want to say one and three. I'll go. I'll
go two and two.
Speaker 2 (46m 29s): Oh, what the fuck would
alert your father to this giants at home Arizona
at home on Monday night, three, three home
games in a row there at Washington. And then
at Philly back to back road games,
Speaker 3 (46m 44s): Does this feels like
a two and two spot? Cause I mean, they're
at home against the giants and Cardinals.
Yeah. I think in Philly is going to be tough.
And in Washington, isn't an easy game either.
That's a lot of travel
Speaker 2 (46m 58s): Pittsburgh add home by
week, week 10 by a little later, that could
be bad for, for this team at Minnesota, Washington
on Thanksgiving, Thursday, and then at Baltimore,
the following Jesus Thanksgiving, you know,
when I looked the, the outsiders have them
as the 29th projected schedule. And I, I don't
know as we go through this that I'm seeing
a super, super easy schedule.
Speaker 3 (47m 24s): No, in Baltimore, in
Minnesota. I mean, they're coming off the,
by there, but again, pits they're, their home
games are scary to me because there are teams
that project to be able to score points. And
that's the kind of teams and again, Pittsburgh's
defense. They were pretty, pretty good against
the run. I think they could struggle to win
that game at Minnesota is always a tough spot.
The wind, the one in three. Yeah, I'll go
one and three. I would hate to be a Cowboys
fan and be a fan of our podcasts.
God bless those people for sticking it out.
Add Cincinnati San Francisco at home Philly
at home at giants to wrap it up so they can
meet the giants in the bangles. I'll go two
and two. They're not, they're not on the road
in New York. Right. And the giants are gonna
be really, I'll say two and two. You're wrong.
I'll say two and two. So he had them both
going seven and nine. No, we got or eight
and eight. I got, I'm going six and 10. Oh,
wow. Right. And you're crazy. Seven to nine
for me.
What do you mean? I'm crazy. The fuck's wrong
with you? So we're both on the under. I love
it. Lock it up, hit the lock sound effect.
Hit it again. And of course all the futures
are dumb because the Cowboys have no future.
What's that? What's them to miss the playoffs.
Oh, that's a great point. Ryan Dallas Cowboys
plus one 85. Miss the playoffs. Throw that
in the pot. Stir it up. Yeah. I'm going to,
I'm going to throw that in our future section,
going to load up that plus one 85. Yeah. Nothing
could go wrong with this team. They replaced
the six, eight offensive line Mo behemoth
with Joe Philbin.
If my book is going to give us, plus one 30
on the under nine and a half, I'll take that
and set a miss playoffs because at seven and
nine, who knows something could get wonky,
but I'll just take my commander under nine
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Speaker 0 (51m 40s): How do you get rid of
Pat Shermer and not Gettleman? How is that?
How are you like, alright, we're cleaning
house. We're getting rid of Eli. We're getting
rid of Pat Shurmur. How do you clean house
Bay and bring Garrett and Freddy kitchens
in. But how has Gettleman still on the part
of the,
Speaker 2 (51m 54s): How is he still on the
team? It's just, the talent was given to Schermer
and he couldn't get it done. And that's something
we just need to move forward with. Now, Sean,
we need to move forward. We need to realize
there will be consequences in practice. We
need to realize that there will be accountability.
And we most importantly need to realize that
we will play football with tennis balls taped
to our hands.
Speaker 0 (52m 17s): Gentlemen admitted trying
to straddle the line between winning and rebuilding.
Fuck Jose quote miscalculation.
Speaker 2 (52m 23s): Yeah. It wasn't smart.
You can't do both.
Speaker 0 (52m 27s): Well. Isn't that what
they're doing now? What is the, what is the
Giant's plan for this year?
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Speaker 2 (52m 49s): This guy's in the kitchen.
Speaker 0 (52m 51s): Oh, Freddy kitchens.
He's like the he's the food expert. It's going
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Speaker 2 (52m 56s): Yeah.
Speaker 0 (52m 59s): This was a great quote
from Joe judge quarterback. Dale Jones is
going to take some hits this summer. And his
plan is to fill a Sox with bars of soap and
then quote, we're just going to take him out
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Speaker 2 (53m 10s): Again, Sean, you love
this guy. You hate that you can't root for
this guy. He's a special teams coach. What
have we learned from John Harbaugh who got
his stripes working in Philadelphia as a special
teams coach, what do you have to do as a special
teams? Coach shown you have to be able to
adjust. What has he done in Baltimore? He
has always been able to adjust and find a
system that works for his team. What will
Joe judge all rise do in New York, find a
way and find a system that will work with
his team.
If that's putting soap in socks and beating
the shit out of that private school pussy.
Let me say this again. If it means,
Speaker 0 (53m 52s): Did you just go on Joan's
a private school
Speaker 2 (53m 55s): That means putting soap
into socks and beating the private school.
Plus he had a Daniel Jones. That's fine by
me. If that means taping tennis balls to the
hands of your defensive backs, you quote,
teach them to not hold. That's fine by me.
If you want to make them run because accountability
is important with grown people nowadays, in
spite of what the millennials will tell you,
that's fine by me. Everything that Joe judge
is doing, I am aligned with. I am all in.
I'm wearing the headband Sean. And my favorite
part is you're. You're just grasping at straws
with really hard ass shit that you love and
try to make fun of him and saying, he's going
to lose the locker room. You are terrified
that Daniel Jones picks up 15 pounds of muscles
in the off season. You are terrified by the
con the peer concept, Sean, that Evan Ingram,
golden Tate, Sterling shepherd, Derrius Slayton,
and say Quan Barkley played zero snaps together
last year, Sean, you're terrified by the fact
that they got rid of Nate.
Speaker 0 (55m 5s): Who's the worst tackle
in the history. The second worst tackle.
Speaker 2 (55m 10s): Well after Eric Flowers
in the history of the nation,
Speaker 0 (55m 13s): Well he could have some,
he could have some competition as left tackle.
Andrew Thomas struggled in scrimmage as the
offensive line, let up five sacks, Lorenzo
Carter getting four and a half.
Speaker 2 (55m 24s): Well, they brought back
Lorenzo Cardos college positional coach to
come in. And I, you know, I was going to give
you for the, the, the guy who watches way
too much giants, shitty media on the internet.
Sean, the name to watch this year is Lorenzo
Carter. This dude is going to be a bonafide
pass rusher. They're going to be stout against
the run and they don't need that. Bum Deandre
Baker, that thief Deandre Baker, who wants
to disturb a nice Madden game, Sean, which
by the way, Monday night Madden 5:00 PM, 7:00
PM here on the West coast, we got a we're
going to be coming live tomorrow.
Tonight, Monday, probably as you listen,
Speaker 0 (56m 5s): Does does Deandre Baker,
does he get a share of sell with a Schermer
kicker? Algebraic Rose us Aldrick Rossa grows
us who witnesses reported. The kicker ran
a red light in an intersection between 90
and a hundred miles per hour. Then he crashed
into someone. Please say they caught to a
bloody to Rozas three hours later walking
on the side of the road, allegedly about a
mile from the scene. They bring in Graham
Gano who hasn't, who didn't kick last year.
So that's a good way to lose some close games
past cashers, like you said, dealt with a
ton of injuries.
I mean, yeah, maybe they all work out or maybe
they're just all injury prone, losers we'll
find out.
Speaker 2 (56m 46s): Well, golden Tate was
suspended for taking Dick boner medicine.
Speaker 0 (56m 50s): But again, after he left
the Philadelphia Eagles, he kind of lost his
way. The problem with this giants offense
is they're very predictable. They're very
old school.
Speaker 2 (57m 0s): Oh, here we go. Now, what
do you know about old school
Speaker 0 (57m 3s): On first downs in the
first three quarters? When the giants were
not 11 personnel, defenses had seven men in
the box, a 98% of the rushing of tents. They
still ran the ball 2.5 yards per carry. So
this
Speaker 2 (57m 16s): Yeah. And offensive revolutionary
and Jason Garrett,
Speaker 0 (57m 21s): I guarantee you Jason
Garrett wrote on the, on the whiteboard establish
the run. Joe judge looked at it and just not.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57m 28s): Yeah. All right.
Speaker 0 (57m 30s): First down we run the
ball. Second down. We run the ball. Third
down. We run the ball four yards in a cloud
of dust. That's it doesn't work in the NFL
anymore. Let's go baby Jones. Mr. Jones ranked
35th among all quarterbacks. That's impressive
because there's only 32 teams. Stop it ranked
35th among all quarterbacks with at least
four starts in yards per attempt at 6.6 and
30th in completion, ration rate at 61.9 turnover
margin. Maybe this works out for you guys,
maybe minus 17 turnover margin last year.
You feel like that can only get better. But
yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (58m 8s): 18 fumbles is tough. You
know, that is a lot, I think the same high
bar to cross actively. The reason you are
the reason you can throw shade at Daniel Jones
is you say, well, he, you know, he's essentially,
he's got the same problem as Haskins and that's,
he has no awareness of the rush and that's
not something he's ever going to figure out.
Well, the other side of the coin is he looked
good doing the things that matter. He looked
good moot with his movement. He looked good
with his speed. He looked good with his arm
strength, which I think was an area that people
try to get after him areas that he needs to
fix.
Hey, may lock onto his first target a little
bit too much. And he just, he just didn't
have that rush awareness. So you fix that
by hitting with bars of soap. Again, I'm okay
with that because Joe judge is the guy who
is going to correct the ship here in New York,
Sean, number one yards per play in the, in
the RPOs last year, Daniel Jones. So there's
reason to be optimistic. He had when the highs
were high, the lows were low, but most importantly,
he got the reps in.
And I think as, as someone who's watched a
quarterback stroke struggle through a rookie
year, we've watched many quarterbacks through
a rookie year. The most important metric seems
to be getting reps period. And so versus the
conversation with Haskins was all, we only
saw six starts or seven starts
Speaker 3 (59m 33s): You're you're you're
buying him because he looks slightly better
than twice.
Speaker 2 (59m 37s): No, no. I'm saying that
he got the reps, he got 12, what? 12, 13,
12 games in it. And again, the culture has
been fixed. We got rid of that locker room,
cancer, algebra, Rosa,
Speaker 3 (59m 49s): You at one point described
as their best player in the team. A couple
of other things to note, this is a gambling
podcast, Ryan 16 games on the schedule for
the giants. How many games are they favored
by more than two points in this season, four
incorrect one against the Redskins. There's
also against the Cardinals. There are one
point favorite at home, but the Redskins it's
like a two and a half.
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 16s): Well, it looks like
there's a lot of value in the New York times.
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 19s): Yeah. There, as far
as like the look headlines dogs in every game.
So you would recommend people instead of maybe
taking the wind total, just load up and bet.
Look at it. Line for the Dallas, for the New
York giants, every single game or my bookie,
daddy,
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 34s): You are, you're sitting
here and you're coming after the giants for
something that you love dogs, you know that
hungry dogs running back.
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 43s): Yeah. You know the
giant suck. And I told you this last year
and we go, we go through this dance every
year. I said they were going to suck. They
sucked. They were four and 12. Couldn't get
to that. That dangerously high school.
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 55s): There, there was a
lot of, a lot of hands, a lot outs
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 59s): The sequel one again,
I think there's some value in Deon Lewis in
a best ball format because he could be, I
think what's your goal here that he could
be involved in the passing game that they're
gonna, they can't trust Barkley on, on obvious
passing situations, which giants aren't going
to have many was the third, the third down
back. You're embarrassing. Her sound bad.
Speaker 2 (1h 1m 25s): We need to move on
to the schedule. Cause you're just embarrassing
yourself. This was a team that was unlucky
last year. They're going to win more games
this year, Sean. And, and last plastic. Last
thing I'll say
Speaker 3 (1h 1m 38s): Xavier McKinney. Who's
coming in for us.
Speaker 2 (1h 1m 40s): McKinney. Julian love.
Okay. And I mentioned that in the early in
the summer with the Sims that Julian love
could be the guy. Anyway, Sean, the culture
has been changed. I don't think you realize
this. I as someone who's watched some hilariously
bad head coaches flow through the building.
Yeah. This guy has something that Pat Schirmer
did not have. This guy has something that
Ben McAdoo did not have. This.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 6s): This is interesting
bet. Ryan let's go more career wins as a Giant's
head coach, Ben McAdoo or Joe judge. I would
take McAdoo right now.
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 16s): What's the number that
McAdoo house.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 18s): Let me look that up.
But I think he got 20. Let's see. He was no,
he was 11 and five and then two and 10. So
he has 13 wins. I don't think Jo judge sees
14 wins. Oh, that's true. That's two and a
half.
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 35s): You're out of your
mind. I mean, if you're offering me that wager
I'll happily take that wager. Alright. All,
I mean all rise, Sean, are you not paying
attention? I am. You want to go play for Joe
judge in New York. You want to strap it on
for Joe judge.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 51s): Right? Look at their
schedule. Where are you finding these wins?
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 54s): Go through the fucking
schedule. Sean. All right. I know you were
going to try to bring this shade. It's all
because your Eagle's team's fucking medical
staff sucks. And the whole,
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 3s): They replaced the medical
staff and these guys still,
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 5s): Maybe they should have
maybe the grass is yellow, everywhere. And
they should have realized that first four
for the giants Pittsburgh on Monday night
football, the early game at Chicago, San Francisco
at home
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 17s): For the Steelers minus
three and a half already locked up
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 21s): San Francisco at home.
Wow. The giants at Rams. Really a tough start
to the schedule here
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 28s): In Chicago.
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 30s): Do they? Which game?
Which do they win? The home games? They probably
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 34s): Oh and for, and I think
you probably think I'm trolling you, but
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 38s): Have we seen Ben Roethlisberger
throw a football? Yeah, I was watching they're
they're busy looking for the and stuff. Yeah.
I'll say the giants go one and three here.
I'll be. How are you going to get to nine
and seven? Right? We're going to get there.
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 52s): And that's being generous.
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 55s): Where are you at? Dallas
Washington at Philly on Thursday night, Tampa.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 2s): I'll say one in three
schedule again.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 5s): I'm also going to go
one to three.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 7s): You got them two and
six. When does the hot streak start
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 10s): At Washington Philly
at home, late by week at Cincy at Seattle.
Although they play at 15 road games this year,
they go, they go to and to hear shit.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 24s): Maybe they'll win in
Cincinnati. Maybe
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 27s): Last for Arizona, Cleveland
app Baltimore. They won't need the game. Dallas
at home. They close out four and Oh Sean,
they, the community. Nate give me an eight
and eight season for the New York giants.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 40s): You gotta, I gotta
check your math on that.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 43s): What do you eat? I
got them going two and six and then six and
two.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 48s): All right. You know
what for that last four I'll go one and three.
Did I get it? I got them to three and 13.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 55s): You know what? I'm
changing it. The, the, the, the second sector
they're going to, and to give me a nine and
seven. Okay. You got three and 13. Yeah. And
that feels generous,
Speaker 3 (1h 5m 7s): Right? They're just
bad, man. I don't mean to like
Speaker 2 (1h 5m 10s): Daniel Jones, Joe judge
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Speaker 2 (1h 6m 20s): Go. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (1h 6m 21s): Where did you want
to talk about any futures that are for the
New York Jags plus 400 to make the playoffs
minus six 52? I don't think minus six 50 is
worth it. Their window again, though. Under
is the way to go
Speaker 2 (1h 6m 34s): There. Wind total is
six minus one, 10 on the over minus one 20
on the under eight to one to win the division.
Sean, any of those futures?
Speaker 3 (1h 6m 43s): Didn't you? Do you
already threw out that you like them to win
the division? I plus 800, right?
Speaker 2 (1h 6m 47s): You and Walter football?
Yes, sir. Okay. Any other don't forget. Steve
Schermer and Zach Bronner writers over@sportspodcast.com.
You guys are all delusional. No, that's it.
But at nine and seven, they're going to win
the division. Sean, they're going to shock
the world. The rest of the division is going
to look like shit. And we get to talk about
your Eagles. Now how's your soft tissue doing?
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 12s): Tissue is doing fine
because I've been active this entire summer.
I, I maintain a strict hydration regimen.
Just knocked out another a hundred mile a
month. All my running.
Speaker 2 (1h 7m 23s): Running's not good
for you, dude. I've been waiting to have this
conversation
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 25s): Again. I don't even
think like him, Michael Sanders, a couple
of other guys dealing with soft tissue stuff.
I, I, aye.
Speaker 2 (1h 7m 31s): Is miles Sanders a
soft tissue thing too? Is it? Yeah. Okay.
I thought it was something else. I thought
I read it
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 38s): And I don't even think
a lot of these guys are actually injured.
I think they're just doing this as a way to
arrest the guys being super conservative.
Obviously Jaylen rager today did something
to his shoulder. He's going to be out three
weeks, not ideal, but again, and he was tackling
a defensive back on an interception that Jalen
hurts through which fucked Jalen hurts, which
is really annoying. Also like Pearson. I love
Doug Peterson. You shouldn't be letting you
know, after a play is intercepted in a scrimmage
against your own guys.
You shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 14s): A receiver who can't
tackle. Well, he got
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 16s): The tackle. He just,
he just jacked up his shoulder and clearly
injuries again, rookie
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 22s): Ricky receivers. If
they're not, he's just not going to contribute
this year.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 27s): It's certainly going
to hurt him. Starting late like that. Although
all the other receivers have looked good.
A rookie John Hightower, Deontay Burnett,
even JJR saying Whiteside, who I had thought
was a bus. He's getting a lot of praise.
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 39s): I've read positive
things about him. And, and the way you know,
the, the, the local, one of the locals guys
was, was touting him as a red zone threat.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 48s): I'll tell you who's
going to be sneaky. And he was sneaky last
year is Greg ward because Greg ward is almost
like a, a Zachary it's at a receiver position.
He doesn't know
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 57s): Really well. Greg ward
is just who willing to put his body on the
line.
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 2s): He doesn't, he doesn't
have tremendous speed or separation, but Carson
Wentz really trusts him. Loves throwing.
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 7s): Sounds like a Joe judge
kind of guy. Yeah. Except he's on a ride
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 12s): Lot. A lot of hype
about wins. Hasn't looked as sharp since 2017.
Again, like I said, they brought in a ton
of speed to Sean Jackson, knock on wood. If
you're with me, he's healthy. He's, he's just
toasting people. And we'll see, we won against
the red Sox.
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 27s): Assuming his soft tissue
is okay.
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 30s): And again, soft tissue
injuries are going to be a huge deal this
year. Cause you saw the same issue in 2011.
That's why they, the players like did battle
with the NFL about this ramp up period. And
there's still a bunch of these kinds of injuries.
So I mean, it is,
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 45s): But it's the offensive
line injuries that are the problem, right?
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 49s): Yeah. Andre Dillard,
he's out for the season and Brandon Brooks
out for the season. Braden Brooks, it sucks
cause that dude's an all pro, but if you're
gonna lose a offensive line position, probably
right. Guard is what you is, what you want
to lose. Luckily they brought back Jason Peters
who played at a pretty high level last year,
but he is super old. So yeah, left tackle
could be a real issue for this team. What
I would say in the positive is to bring in
enrich Gingerella there's going to be a lot
more whence in the bootleg, rolling out Wentz,
getting him outside the pocket where he thrives
creating plays off schedule.
So I think they're going to, depending on
who ends up being the left tackle, assuming
Jason, Peter slides over, you're going to
see a lot. Maybe they help them out with some
chip blocks. But yeah, I mean the offensive
line at losing two starters before the season
kicks off, not good Javan Hargrave, he's a
little banged up. Hopefully it comes back.
I'm really psyched about the defensive line
Fletcher Cox Malik Jackson. We didn't get
to see that last year. Mike Jackson season
ending injury on the first game of the season.
But again, you know, they bring in Derrius,
sleigh percent of the Eagles have had a true
number.
One quarterback, since a Santee Samuel, he's
going to help kind of smooth out the defensive
backfield. They lost Malcolm Jenkins, but
they brought Jayla mills over to kind of play
that safety role by all accounts. He's playing
really well in camp. Again, you can't really
judge what you're seeing in camp. Cause there's
no preseason but
Speaker 2 (1h 11m 18s): Much like the Washington
Redskins. This is a team that's going to come
down to the quarterback play. It's going to
come down to if that quarterback can rise
above being a nine and seven guy and that's
Carson wins. And then, you know, when you're
starting, when you, when you need to prove
something to your team, you need to prove
something to the fans. You need to prove something
to the division that you can be more than
a nine and seven guy. Doesn't help to start
the season with soft, soft tissue injuries.
Again, gotta make you wonder what's he doing
in the off season and prepare.
He's not practicing with tennis balls. He's
not running labs. He's not holding himself
accountable. Doug Peterson is soft. Doug Peterson
is a player's coach. He's not an accountability
coach. All right. He's not part of the, all
right. So it's a Superbowl ride.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 4s): Lucky on the defensive
side though, I kinda like what the defensive
backfield rounding out. We'll see Rodney with
cloud Jayla mills at safety. And then you
got Nicole Roby Coleman who could be, you
know, Patrick Robinson was huge for the Eagles
in 2017 out of that nickel quarterback spot.
And he's looked good in practice so far, Avanti,
Maddix, not a bad cornerback for your number
two
Speaker 2 (1h 12m 26s): Short as a guy who
has held on to a super bowl championship too
long. It's it's, it's fun to watch you go
through this period. You're still holding
on only a couple of years ago, and they've
been, they've made the playoffs three years
in a row.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 39s): You're talking to
the NFC East division champs address with
a little respect,
Speaker 2 (1h 12m 45s): Not a division that
the teams when back to back years, Jim Schwartz.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 50s): Now finally, he's
able to bring some pressure because he has
guys that can guard and the defensive backfield,
Derry slays, a guy that can cover the number
one guy, look for him to travel to the number
one reason
Speaker 2 (1h 13m 1s): You, you don't. I mean,
I think you're overselling the fact that your,
your secondary issues are solved. And I think
you're also underselling the, the role of
a guy like Jenkins on a team. He was on a
team that clearly Peterson enables his veterans
to be leaders and to help manage the team.
So when you leave, when you lose someone who
clearly has got a tremendously valuable member
of management, it's always going to hurt that
team. And I think as far as bringing slay
in, I don't, they're still going to have issues
on the back end.
I think the, the, the counter to that would
be their front end should be better.
Speaker 0 (1h 13m 36s): Yeah. And if, if Malik
Jackson, if Malique Jackson, he could have
a huge year because if they're going to double
team Fletcher Cox, and then Javan Hargrave,
who's a little nicked up. Once he gets in
there, that's, that's a legit defensive tackle
rotation of Javan, Hargrave, Fletcher, Cox,
and Blake Jackson,
Speaker 2 (1h 13m 51s): Dramas of Carson ones.
Can't stay healthy. I mean, if he's already
getting hurt, that that's seriously concerning.
Cause he's not a guy that can play without
his legs. And to your point, to your point,
you don't like Jalen hurts. It's sad. Fells
the guy. I mean, stud Feld. You mean that's
not a guy you're getting behind. So I think
you are, you're terrified now because the
team's falling apart and we haven't even gotten
to the season again, you're terrified right
now because there's a losing Lou elusal game
to the Redskins week one on the dock.
Speaker 0 (1h 14m 22s): Same way that a Carson
Wentz thrives when the play breaks down and
he has to improvise and find, find a receiver
downfield, make a play, make something happen.
Can you say that Harrison? Yeah. All his best
throws are outside of the pocket. Doug Peterson.
I mean, you remember that 50 yard bomb to
Nelson Aguilar that helped me win 200 grand.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (1h 14m 42s): Remember, we're talking
about a guy who he's been, he's been slightly
above average in his career. And I think the
question is, can he do more this year?
Speaker 0 (1h 14m 52s): He has his much better
receiver talent. And assuming
Speaker 2 (1h 14m 55s): What better receiver
talent, Sean Jackson, they didn't have him
last year. They had a last year and he got
hurt shot, but now they have in the way it
works and they have a miss sheer and he's
going to get hurt. Well, he was, the rookie
was the, was the bright spot he's out already.
He's not going to continue talking about John
Hightower. I'm not talking about John Heights.
John hijab was going to contribute. The tight
ends are going to be a problem. When you play
the Eagles, it's going to be about
Speaker 0 (1h 15m 21s): 12 personnel with
the Sean Jackson and John Hightower. You have
two guys receivers that can run for four forties
and you have got her nerds again to Sean.
Jackson does so much for this team in the
same way that they dominate in 2017. Why?
Because Tory Smith, they had to respect Tory
Smith speed and play off, and then open up
the middle if Deshaun Jackson. And if he can't
get through it, then either rager or Hightower
will step in. That's why they bought. That's
why they drafted all these speed guys.
Speaker 2 (1h 15m 48s): And, and I think,
you know,
Speaker 0 (1h 15m 51s): We haven't even talked
about miles Sanders. Who's poised to be like,
you know things go right. He could be a top
five fantasy player, like he's going to be
involved
Speaker 2 (1h 15m 60s): For sure. I mean,
again, concerning that these guys are getting
banged up the way they are. It makes me wonder
how, how much dedication they're pouring back
into the program.
Speaker 0 (1h 16m 10s): But Kramer, to my
point that you kind of got me sidetracked
on in the same way that Carson Wentz thrives
on a play breaks down. Doug Peterson thrives
when faced with adversity. When is, what is
Doug Peterson done as best coaching? When
the team is five and six and they need to
run to get in the playoffs. When whence goes
down while they're having a magical year,
that's when Doug Peterson thrives, he's got
the players to listen to them. And unlike
every other team in the division he's been
there before. He knows what it's like to be
a head coach in the NFCS.
And none of these other three head coaches
can say that they're the only team in this
division that has continuity at the quarterback
head coach, offensive coordinator and defensive
coordinator.
Speaker 2 (1h 16m 53s): No. Yeah, that's fine.
I'm fine with all of that. I just, I, I, it
comes down to Carson Wednesday. It comes down
to what is Carson one's going to do. He's
going to be good and well, will he stay healthy?
Will he be able to win more than nine games?
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 6s): Injury report last
year, William, they took a cheap shot on him
in the playoff game. And he got knocked out
as F you know, I'm a fan of player safety
and Oh yeah. And Ryan, you keep, you, you
gleefully throw out these injuries. Injuries
are a serious thing and people should not
root for them. So you're generating a lot
of negative karma here, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (1h 17m 27s): Oh, man. I still remember
that Victor Cruz day. Alright, Sean, should
we, should we go through the sky last year?
The Eagles, when total was nine and a half,
they went under that wind, total winning only
nine games. Again, Carson Wentz. A lot of
question marks about his ability to deliver
in the post season. This year, the win total
is nine and a half minus one Oh five minus
one 25 is the on the under plus one 40. So
slight dogs in the division, Sean to the cowgirls,
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 57s): 10 to one, and just
kind of where they're positioned. They're
not getting any hype. Everyone. The media
is already gifted the division to the Dallas
Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (1h 18m 5s): I understand that.
I re I, I understand why you might think the
Eagles are gonna win the division. I, I can
see if your immediate memory, you said the
Eagles are the best team. They have the best
roster in this division. I don't see the argument
for why the Cowboys have the best roster.
I just don't see why people are just glossing
over the defense anyway, 20 to one to win
the super bowl show on the first floor of
the Eagles open at Washington Rams at home
bangles at home at Niners
Speaker 0 (1h 18m 34s): Three and one, I mean,
again, you're right. I am a little nervous
about their old line against Washington. I
think, I think there's too much talent for
them to lose that game. We're going to drop
the first one. Rams.
Speaker 2 (1h 18m 45s): A new controversy
is going to be a,
Speaker 0 (1h 18m 48s): The skins Rams at
home in Philly. Good spot to play in bangles.
We had a rookie quarterback game three that
game in San Francisco, prime time West coast.
That's a really tough spot. Although, although,
I mean the 40 Niners have just, since we taped
the NFC West preview, they've just been ravaged
with injuries and there's, there's going to
be one of those receivers is going to be a
DFS steel, but yeah, three in one,
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 14s): A bit of a hangover
potential. But yeah, I mean, it's a tough
road spot there. And then the following back-to-back
road spots, this is not the easiest stretch
at Pittsburgh, Baltimore at home giants at
home on Thursday night, and then Dallas at
home, three home games in a row.
Speaker 0 (1h 19m 32s): Love it. Three and
one. And I think what could happen is they
could lose the Steelers. Oh, they're three
and two sky's falling. And then they go on
a little bit of run Ravens non-conference
conference road game. Again, the yields have
done a very good job with Ron defect.
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 46s): I've always owned
the Eagles lately. No,
Speaker 0 (1h 19m 49s): They usually split.
It's weird actually, Dallas. It actually favors
the road team in the matchup, but I'm going
to say,
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 58s): I'm going to say two
and two. You're being way too optimistic.
Bi-week at giant. Oh, now it's getting tough
at giants at Cleveland, Seattle at home on
Monday night at green Bay. This is a tough
stretch to the schedule. Sean, I'm going to
say,
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 16s): I'd say they can go
to and to tune to that is that is kind of
tough. I mean, in green Bay is never easy.
The Seahawks kind of have their number. So
yeah, I think two inches
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 26s): For saints at home
at Arizona, at Dallas Washington at home,
I'm going to finish up two and two Sean
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 33s): For now, for now.
I mean, Kramer, Peter says get them to go
at 12 and four. Alright.
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 45s): 12 and four. I got
to meet Nate giants were in the division at
nine and seven. Fuck everyone rise, baby.
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 52s): And we got to look
at your, so you have everyone going under
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 56s): All my teams and see
if it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 58s): It there's no way.
It makes sense. You haven't predicted. I think
in like three episodes, one team to win more
than 10 games.
Speaker 2 (1h 21m 5s): You saying I'm shade.
Well, I'm doing our fans. I'm doing the DJs
of failure because you had no one winning
nine games. Sean, there's always value in
the 10, always value in the under.
Speaker 3 (1h 21m 19s): You have no team right
now. You have the Ravens going 11 and five.
Okay. And the Seahawks, which I actually,
I agree with the Seahawks there. Yeah.
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Okay. For my lock, that training camp report
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not on your, on your P's and Q's right now.
It's pretty easy for the lock under your giants
over Philadelphia Eagles. And maybe take a
small sprinkle on the Eagles future. We'll
say conference plus 1000. I don't want to
jinx it to Cowboys under okay.
Lock giants. No. You know what? I'm going
to lock up the Eagles under his all right.
Trying to insult me. Yup. That's fine. That's
fine. Eagles under not the Redskins under
Sean. You marked the wrong cell on the sheet.
And then I'll it. I'm just going to inform
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Of course, Texans chiefs, Ryan. I mean, we're
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today, we will, we will already be, we'll
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That was, that was just a wild ride. Ended
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Speaker 2 (7m 17s): I pulled up the, the shot
of us in the video. The headband is meant.
People are not going to forget me. They are
not going to forget this episode. And I guess
we'll start with the Washington professional
football team, the Washington football team.
Yeah, let's do it. What's there to talk about
Sean. They were three and 13 last year they
had had, they had a rookie quarterback who
looked horrible, horrible, Dwayne Haskins.
Yes. Very horrible. He didn't play a lot of
games, but, and this team played some good
defense, but still they, they won three games.
They weren't tremendously unlucky
Speaker 0 (7m 59s): Kramer, courtesy of your
friends over football outsiders, worst DVOs
for rookie quarterback between 2008 and 2019.
Dwayne Haskins comes in fifth. Overall. Jared
Goff is number one.
Speaker 2 (8m 11s): I'm looking at the list
too. It's a murderer's row of guys. You don't
want to.
Speaker 0 (8m 16s): Jared Goff. Number one,
Josh Rose. Number two, Jimmy Clawson number
three, Blaine Gabbert number four, Wayne Haskins
pulling in the five spot. Blake Bortles Matthew
Stafford, Josh Allen to Sean Kaiser, Christian
ponder. Oh, you know what? So Matthew Stafford,
I think that's probably your best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (8m 36s): I'm doing a deep dive
with, with this list as my starting point
for a little, I'm going to look back at the
K metric because I have a feeling we had,
we got a lot of K metric guys on this list.
Wayne Haskins. We talked about the concern
around his doughy body. We talked about the
concern with him not being an exciting prospect.
We watched him play. He made some plays, but
he also looked like trash. And I think the
problem with the small sample size we're dealing
with with Dwayne Haskins is he was really,
really, really, really bad.
So the only the people talking about the sample
size are the people that are like, well, maybe
he's not awful. Maybe he's just below average,
which would be a great step forward for a
team that projects to have potentially a good
defense.
Speaker 0 (9m 22s): Yeah. I mean, if you're,
if you're in the Haskins mindset, if you're
talking yourself into Dwayne Haskins, you
look at his last two games. He was 31 to 43,
a 9.2 yards for temps 394 yards for touchdowns,
zero interceptions.
Speaker 2 (9m 36s): It's a small sample size.
Speaker 0 (9m 38s): And I think you also point
out that as coach Jay Gruden clearly haired
hated his quarterback, hated Dwayne Haskins.
Didn't want him to succeed in any way. And
Speaker 2 (9m 49s): I think by the way, I
think it was on our Instagram feed. I saw
a, a clip of a arena football game between
Kurt Warner and Jay Gruden back in the day.
So that made me smile.
Speaker 0 (10m 0s): Oh man. Jigger is just
probably smoking cigs, hanging out at some
college party. That was always weird when
that got leaked out. But yeah, what's he doing?
I think
Speaker 2 (10m 10s): I was onto something
there with that sleepovers, you know?
Speaker 0 (10m 14s): Yeah. I think if you're,
I think if you're a Haskins backer or you
want to talk yourself into it, that's where
you go and they bring in, they bring in Ron
Rivera who by all accounts looks like a solid
coach. Nope. It is a solid coach by all accounts.
The differences,
Speaker 2 (10m 27s): His player's coach, old,
old school guy. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (10m 30s): Yeah. And it seems somewhat
competent. Ron Rivera, the differences with
him, Ron Rivera. Could you imagine a more
horrible situation? He's even admitted that,
you know, short, the short off season, that's
going to be tough. Cause the COVID he has
a young team again, like he even said I was
listening to interviews like, yeah, I don't
know how much these young players will be
able to contribute right away, huge red flag.
Then you got them changing their name from
the Redskins to just Washington football team.
Speaker 2 (10m 57s): It feels like it matters
is the ultimate.
Speaker 0 (10m 58s): Fuck you. Then, then
he has to deal with Derrius Guice situation,
domestic violence. They had to get rid of
him. And if that wasn't enough,
Speaker 2 (11m 6s): By the way, one of the
bright spots on the offense was his perf like
small sample size, but his performance. So
poor, poor Ron Rivera.
Speaker 0 (11m 15s): Yeah. And last but not
least, he gets diagnosed with cancer. All
I'll do while trying to take over a team,
put this together in a short off season. And
man, like, even if Ron Rivera is a super competent
coach, which he seems like not an amazing
coach, but a guy who can like steady the ship.
This is just like a worst case scenario and
all different fronts. Like just imagine him
opening up his email. Like what kind of shit
is this guy dealing with? It seems like a
nightmare.
Speaker 2 (11m 42s): And they are, it sounds
like Jack Del Rio is also changing the defense
schematically. So the strength of the team
could even be crippled by the fact that they're
just doing something a little bit different.
Speaker 0 (11m 55s): Yeah. And I think that
is as far as like the strengths of this, a
Washington football team, I think it is, I
think it's their front seven in particular
that that really is pretty strong for them.
Speaker 2 (12m 8s): They were fourth and adjusted
SAC rate last year, Sean. And they added the
number two pick chase young, which by all
accounts, you know, he he's off the charts
hard to see him failing as a prospect.
Speaker 0 (12m 20s): Yeah. And th that you
see that clip of him tackling Adrian Peterson,
that it like went viral. I mean, it was a
cool, it was like, alright, he tackled him.
I don't know. It didn't seem like it was that
awesome. That a way that was the 
Speaker 2 (12m 33s): Alien DNA being passed
down because Adrian Peterson has the alien
DNA going through his blood. I believe maybe
it's alien vs predator who knows,
Speaker 0 (12m 45s): Certainly has the predator,
dreadlocks,
Speaker 2 (12m 46s): Chase young. I think
there's no reason to believe he won't be a
force this year just based on looking at what
he did and bossa. I mean, they've very, very
similar parallel. Bossa was able to come in
and immediately be a force. So if chase young
can be a force to an already good pass rush,
who kind of bolstered the backend with the,
with, with some kind of mid tier defensive
back pickups. I think it all, if you come
back to Haskins, you come back to is Haskins
trash is Haskins, just a guy that doesn't
understand how to play quarterback in the
NFL.
When your SAC rate doubles, when you win,
you win, win, win as a team. When you go from
case Keenum to Dwayne Haskins, that's a problem
that tells me Duane. I mean, case kingdom's
already, as you say, poor foot work, hold
the ball a little bit too long. Dwayne Haskins
is dictating this, this SAC rate. And, and
it's not, it's certainly not going to, to
help, especially with looking at that team.
You know, you can almost say the offensive
line potentially is the weak spot and you
know, Haskins much like Danny dimes, the optimist
will be looking for that big jump from year
one to year two.
I think if you're a Haskins backer, you can
be even more optimistic in that. He only played
such a small amount of games that you're going
to, you know, the curve is coming
Speaker 0 (14m 8s): And, and kind of a quick
thought on Haskins to me, I realized he didn't
have it when his first victory, instead of
going out there and kneeling the ball, he
literally goes into the crowd and takes a
selfie. I mean, you know, as an old man dealing
with millennials, that's could there be a
more millennial thing than leaving the game,
your first victory and you go into the stands
to take a selfie with someone. How does that
even get on your radar to think? And I can
understand if it was like a super hot chick,
but it was just like an average looking fan.
I don't know what he was thinking.
Speaker 2 (14m 43s): Okay. When the coach
says there's no, I in team Haskins is the
guy that says yeah, but there's a me, so yeah.
Not, not a good look for the, I think again
though, it, you know, tools around them, McClaren
McLaren turned into a pretty, pretty good
receiver. I mean, AP, he still looked good.
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (15m 3s): I mean, it's crazy. I
thought he was dead like three years ago,
but he just keeps running the ball. Hey bro.
And coming back to that Ron Rivera interview,
I listened to, I always thought Antonio Gibson
was kind of a sneaky fantasy play. And on
two separate interviews, he said, quote, we
have a role for Antonio Gibson. And even in
the other one, he's expected that play that
Christian McCaffrey role. So full point PPR,
I mean you can get in Tonio Gibson super late.
I think there's definitely, it makes sense
to do that, but you're right.
Like other than that though, and Steven Sims
is a writer.
Speaker 2 (15m 37s): McLaren is also way too
cheap and fantasy for a team that, you know,
they're going to have opportunities to score
touchdowns because the defense could be good.
And I think the narrative of how this team
does anything productive this year is they,
they become a team where Haskins in a high
variance way has some really good games and
the defense plays well enough to keep them
in most of the games, perhaps, you know, my
real take on this team is perhaps this is
a team we're looking at next year. That was
close in a lot of games. Typical riverboat,
sorry, analytical, Ron.
I think, I think this is a team that's going
to come up short in a bunch of games because
of the inconsistencies of Haskins, married
with a defense. That could be really, really
good. So yeah. I mean, I, I'm not, you know,
it's typical. I think I said Redskins a couple
of times, it's typical
Speaker 0 (16m 28s): Dropping the bombs, right?
We're going to have to go back and flip all
these out
Speaker 2 (16m 31s): Typical Washington football
team. And I think they're just, they're going
to be a non, a nonthreatening factor that
is a thorn in the side. Like I'm really excited.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know how, if
I want to end up playing this team earlier
in the schedule because they, if nothing else
it pass, rush is not something you got to
work. It's just, it's just instinctual. And
if, if the defense is ahead of the offense
that much early, and I think we might see
based on that college game, we're going to
see some shit shows in the national football
also FCS.
True, true pre season's going to be a problem.
We're not talking about it enough, but week
one is going to be a handicapping nightmare.
It's going to be wild. And you're really gonna
want to just, I think, attack the teams that
have done it before and have that consistency
year to year.
Speaker 0 (17m 25s): Well, and they're changing
the scheme to me. You said they kind of shored
up the back defensive backfield a little bit.
I would like to point out a man by the name
of Ronald Darby. That guy is a huge liability
and you know,
Speaker 2 (17m 37s): Josh Norman playing snaps
last year,
Speaker 0 (17m 39s): They play the Eagles
week one. And if you remember, week one last
year to Sean Jackson just toasted them. Yeah.
So I think that could be a real issue. Now
they're front seven at their front seven can
get enough pressure consistently to help out
the defensive backfield. We've definitely
seen that one.
Speaker 2 (17m 54s): If they'd be going after
an offensive line week one, that's a little
banged up.
Speaker 0 (17m 58s): I'm definitely worried
about the Redskins a D line, especially week
one,
Speaker 2 (18m 4s): The run they can have,
they are a top notch run defense. So I think,
Speaker 0 (18m 9s): But Ryan, what I'm really
worried about, and maybe this is crazy, but
from what I'm reading that he's actually taking
snaps in 11 on 11. What if, what if Alex Smith
comes back in the second half of the season
and they have this good defense and you bring
it Alex Smith, game manager, extraordinary.
Isn't that? Isn't this Washington team the
way it's set up right now, the perfect team
for Alex Smith.
Speaker 2 (18m 31s): And that's that's the,
the lead here is everyone's focusing on Haskins
and will he take a step forward? Well, you
get, you get to see give them a couple of
games, but I mean, by all accounts, he's ready
to play. Quote unquote.
Speaker 0 (18m 50s): Yeah. I mean, it's still
like he has to go out there and do it. And
he hasn't been playing in any preseason games.
I can't imagine he's getting a ton of snaps
in, in, in practice. Cause they're trying
to get a Duane righty. But there is a scenario
where Alex Smith comes, comes back, wins.
I'm a couple of games. Couldn't you just see
him coming in
Speaker 2 (19m 9s): And the ball, the age,
Adrian Peterson dumped the ball off,
Speaker 0 (19m 13s): Throw it to McLaurin.
Like I think there's a formula where if, if
Haskins, it doesn't do well. And like the
first half of the season, Ron Rivera is not
tied to him at all. He could easily say like,
throw this guy off his riverboat and just
keep going down that river and Dwayne Haskins.
Well, he, he, he doesn't
Speaker 2 (19m 31s): Strike me as the kind
of guy that's gonna tolerate inconsistent,
shitty quarterback. Oh wait, wait a second.
He had cam nude on this team.
Speaker 0 (19m 41s): You're right there. There's
a lot of crossover between the yeah. The selfie
in the stands is right out of the cam Newton
playbook when cam saw that and he's like,
Aw man, why didn't I
Speaker 2 (19m 52s): Yo tell him it was a
business decision. Alright, Sean, let's do
we do we, did we talk about any, any additions?
I think we mentioned some along the way we
talked about it, Tom Thomas Davis coming over
Kendall fuller on the band, how much he has
left. You know, though that there is something
to be said about the reason that he was brought
over I'm sure was so leadership. Yeah. Ron
Rivera is just installing some S some lieutenants.
And I, I think everything you hear about a
guy like Thomas Davis is he is a respected
guy.
So we know that matters, right? Sean, as a
championship winning coach, I know that matters
a big, big loss. Eric Flowers, again, somehow
someone decided to pay him again. You look
at the losses for this team. Keenum caner,
Eric Flowers, Josh Norman and Quintin Dunbar,
who somehow,
Speaker 0 (20m 43s): Somehow got a snitch
Speaker 2 (20m 46s): On the Baker, the Reynolds,
Speaker 0 (20m 49s): The guy that was, yeah,
it was involved in like robbing that high
stakes Madden game. But then it turns out
it was all the giants quarterback, cornerbacks
fault Dion, her Baker.
Speaker 2 (20m 57s): Oh shit. Anyway, I think
if you look at this, combine it with the fact
that Ron Rivera is a guy who's respected by
players who have played for him. He's clearly
looking to change the tone, bringing in a
coach like Jack Del Rio. That's a tone setting
coach. You know, you're bringing in coaches
that can get out on the field and knock people
around old school, NFC East, again, they were
three and 13 last year going well under their
wind total of six, five and a half is the
number this year showing minus one 20 on the
over minus one 10 on the under 16, the one
for the Redskins to win the division 75 to
one to win the conference 150 to one to win
the super bowl.
You're Alex Smith theory blows all of this
out of the wall.
Speaker 0 (21m 44s): I'm saying if he is that
Alex Smith that we last saw, I mean, I think
he was what six and two before he destroyed
his leg. So there is a world where he can
manage this type of game. And Ron Rivera would
like a veteran quarterback just to kind of
save face a little bit, especially if ownership
may be changed his hand, they finally forced
Dan cider out. You want to have a decent record
so that they don't clean house. Once again,
Speaker 2 (22m 6s): Ron Rivera also has experience
being a coach. When an owner goes through
a scandal and sells the team,
Speaker 0 (22m 14s): Dan Snyder, like the
latest thing came out that they had like guys
in their video department or whatever, put
together like a highlight reel of like nip
slips. And like, we're like the cheerleaders
change, you know, whatever it's dude, you're
a billionaire. You can't get laid on your
own. You need like to go some creepy, like
a spy cam on these chicks. Like it's just
such a, just talk to a woman. You're a billionaire.
You sh if you can't get laid that's right.
Speaker 2 (22m 42s): I haven't really learned
anything from Robert Kraft and Jeffrey Epstein.
These guys are weirdos
Speaker 0 (22m 47s): Robert Kraft. That was,
I think that was more a time efficiency thing,
like seven habits of highly effective people.
One just to pay them for the sex like that
to me makes way more sense than like, yeah,
you're not paying to have sex. You're paying
them to leave. Right. Where was that from?
Speaker 2 (23m 4s): I don't know. Every guy
in Vegas, every, every old guy trying to pass
down some wisdom to a young guy in Vegas.
You know the thing about a prostitute. You're
not paying for the sex. You're paying for
them to leave, or you're not paying for them
to come and you're paying for them to leave.
All right, Sean, let's do it. The first four
Philly at home at Arizona at Cleveland, Baltimore
at home, I'll say this. Those are, those are
really tremendously scary spots for both Baltimore
and Philly for the same exact reason.
If this defense is right and they can shut
down the run and they can do something. And
who knows, maybe the offense does a little
something, right? We, we saw games. You mentioned
you called out the two weeks where he looked
like ACEs. Yeah. So, and you know, who knows
Arizona? I think we're holding. These are
the two like ultimate hype teams, right? The
hype team this year and the hype team last
year on the road. Don't know very interesting
starting for it because this can go well for
the Redskins. And I'm sorry, this can go well
for the football team.
But I think they unfortunately too much class
in the Eagles and Ravens and the road games
are just weird enough. I'll say one in three.
Speaker 3 (24m 17s): Yeah. Ron Rivera himself
said, this is going to be a challenge. And
that he's, he's the managing expectations.
Speaker 2 (24m 22s): So this is a man who
likes to gamble on river boats,
Speaker 3 (24m 26s): One and three for the,
for the football team. I just think their
schedule is a lot tougher than you would expect
for the last place team
Speaker 2 (24m 33s): Should inform them that
we already own. We have the hashtag TFT covered
from the football tournament. So they're going
to try and steal that next for Rams at home
at giants Dallas at home, bi-week eight giants
and home coming out of the buy at Detroit.
Speaker 3 (24m 51s): Oh wait, I think you
did a
Speaker 2 (24m 53s): Detroit. No, I'm sorry.
That was for, so yeah. Rams at home at giants
Dallas at home, bi-week giants off the buy
tough stretch, tough stretch. But again, you
know, I think they typically play the Cowboys
and Cowboys. Defensive backfield is good.
We will get to them in a bit, but Holy shit,
like if you're gonna, if you're a quarterback
this year, you're going to be licking your
chops to play this cowboy secondary in my
opinion. And so I think again, their ability
to stop the run, Sean, it makes me believe
they can win some of these games.
They'll split with the giants. And I'll say
too, I say that
Speaker 3 (25m 34s): I think they could win
too. They could beat the giants both times
so they could steal one from the Cowboys or
the Rams, certainly in the robot.
Speaker 2 (25m 41s): We're so mean to the
giants this year. I may, I don't know if I'm
going back next year. Shown next for, at Detroit,
Cincinnati at home at Dallas on Thursday.
Yeah. It's Thanksgiving at the Thanksgiving
game at Pittsburgh. Jean. That is a, they
have an ad Dallas on Thanksgiving at Pittsburgh,
at San Francisco, three game road stretch
there. So schedule's getting tougher. They'll
beat Cincy at home. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (26m 9s): Yeah. I got, I got one
win. Cause even, even Detroit in Detroit,
that's a tough spot. Bangles who knows what
they'll be doing. And to finish out in Pittsburgh
stuff,
Speaker 2 (26m 19s): San Francisco, Seattle
at home Carolina at home at Philly, they can
definitely be a Carolina at home. I'll give
them that when I'll say one in three, not
the worst season. And I, I don't, I don't
want to you, would he got you?
Speaker 3 (26m 33s): Yeah. One in three. I
had a lot of tough spots.
Speaker 2 (26m 35s): We were tremendously
optimistic for this team. We still got them
to six, which is over. I got six. I thought
I was five. And you had them go one in three,
two and two, one in three, one in three. Oh,
sorry. We both had them go five and 11, five
and 11 faulty math on my bag. Yeah. And that,
I feel like we were fairly pessimistic for,
for them. We got them almost to the wind.
Totally. It does scare me away from recommending
the under. Here's why I would say under, cause
I think Haskins is bad.
Yeah. I mean the Alex Smith theory scares
me a little bit, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (27m 12s): Cause there's a, there's
a, like I said, like there's a world where
Alex Smith comes back. He balls out shit gets
crazy. And that defense, like I dunno, but
again, are they really gonna do that? And
you know, management wants him to play Haskins
to see what they have. So the, the chance
of Alex Smith actually doing that is probably
crazy, but 150 to one. I don't know what other,
what other teams do you think have a sh I
couldn't again, the Alex Smith thing I think
could be real.
That's all I'm going to say. Well, we've Alex
Smith comes in the second half of the season.
I think a lot of these bets go out the window.
And again, I'm just looking to play a lot
of unders in this red
Speaker 2 (27m 53s): Only the only Carolina
has fewer projected wins from the football
outsiders. I think the area, if you're excited
about this Redskins teams, cause you're saying,
Hey, they could have an elite team based on
that front seven something based on that pass
rush, really
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Speaker 2 (30m 29s): Just to be clear. Cause
I don't think we were, we were both are five
and 11. We're both saying under yeah,
Speaker 0 (30m 35s): Both saying under none
of the, you didn't tell me what years they
were gonna make the playoffs. I'll look that
up, Ryan. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30m 44s): Just, just sorry, just
taking care of taking care of some housekeeping.
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (30m 48s): The Washington football
team, plus six 25 to make the playoffs minus
1300 to miss the playoff.
Speaker 2 (30m 55s): Isn't that if you're
a rep, if you're sorry, if you're a football
team fan, if you're a football fan, isn't
that the bet you take or six and a half to
one six and a quarter to one, whatever you
just said, plus six 25 defense to be good
enough for them to win eight games and sneak
in.
Speaker 0 (31m 14s): Well, how about this?
Instead of that, you look to a Alex Smith,
12 to one comeback player of the year. So
I think there's a chance he could get it,
even if they don't have a good season. Like
if he just goes randomly like three and one,
those last four games is going to lose the
Eagles. But if he just comes in and goes like
four and why it's such a great story as compared
to like cam Newton or JJ watt or Ralph Lewisburg.
Speaker 2 (31m 37s): I mean, if cam Newton
turns the tide in new England and gets people
wearing hats, if people are dawning hats and
scarfs like cam Newton, I'd say he gets whatever
fucking award that can happen.
Speaker 0 (31m 49s): If he can get the chatter
heads to wear scarves. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31m 53s): It's a, it's a, I don't
even know what are, it's a Derby classic.
Alright. Cowboys time, cowgirls time,
Speaker 0 (32m 2s): The cowgirls America's
team has made the divisional round just six
times in those 24 years since their last super
bowl and our Owen six when they've made it
there,
Speaker 2 (32m 12s): The wind total was nine
last year. And when we were like, Oh, well
they're going to go eight and eight. So you
should take the honor. They went eight and
eight, Sean. They underperformed by three
wins. They, they, their pie wins 11, 11 last
year. So they certainly a team. You circle
as a regression candidate. Here's the problem.
They're, they're rolling in big fat Mike McCarthy.
And I don't know, I don't know about you,
but it seems as though everyone forgotten
about him, they forgot.
And Aaron Rogers ran them out of town. Did
you know? Yeah. The, the, the outsider has
mentioned his extremely predictable, predictable
play calling AK calling the place at the same
play over and over again. Do you, did you
know that he was part of his pitch? The Cowboys
is that he's going to build an and he was
going to build an analytical team.
Speaker 3 (33m 3s): So it was big news that
he went and hung out with the pro football
focus guys to learn and analytics him. And
Gettleman
Speaker 2 (33m 10s): Farley. He's literally
like Jerry Jones is David's  anyway,
you know, I guess to me, the story is all
about Jason Garrett taking his talents to
New York, being appropriately leveled. Once
again, run beautifully over my shoulder, running
out often getting the most out of
Speaker 3 (33m 36s): They didn't even, he
wasn't calling the plays last year. That was
all killed them
Speaker 2 (33m 38s): More so, but from a,
from a man, you got to give him some credit
for what he did with Dakota. I think one area
that we unfairly told him to go get his fucking
shine box is he did develop a fourth round
quarterback into a pro bowl situation where
now Jerry Jones is squirming because he's
got to pay him. And I think it's fair to give
Jason Garrett shit for all the things that
he sucked at being mediocre
Speaker 3 (34m 9s): One in six and one being
the bed
Speaker 2 (34m 11s): In game, head coach being
a puppet where Jerry Jones is like probably
up to the elbow is right up his ass
Speaker 3 (34m 20s): Man. Jamie, Jerry really
has to want to do that to Mike McCarthy to
get involved there. Cause that is, that's
not a great visual.
Speaker 2 (34m 29s): Oh, but he did develop,
he did have hit. I mean, as a quarterback
himself, I would find it hard to believe that
he did. He had nothing to do with the development
of rain, Dakota, Prescott, Ryan,
Speaker 3 (34m 43s): Your reach, you're coming
up with new ways to compliment the Cowboys
on the NFCS podcast, the Cowboys and common
winning that's part of the New York job
Speaker 2 (34m 53s): With Jason Garrett out
of the building, rain Dakota, Prescott will
be lost. He won't have that special copy of
drops of Jupiter that Jason Garrett made special
on the cassette tape.
Speaker 3 (35m 6s): You know, I was, I was
wondering like, why is he going out of his
way to praise Jason Garrett? And I didn't
even occur to me that you're just playing
chess, bro. I'm playing chess, laying the
groundwork for him to somehow save.
Speaker 2 (35m 21s): Can I tell you a serious,
serious coaching problem? I would have if
I'm a, if I'm a Cowboys fan. Sure. Did you
know they're all pensive line coach last year,
Mark Colombo, six foot eight former offensive
lineman himself. You know Sean. Yup. A guidance
to a guy that's going to get out there, get
this, get his hands on you and show you how
to do it the right way. What have the Cowboys
had? Fantastic offensive line. Yeah. You know,
who's not in the building anymore because
he's in New York, all rise with Joe judge
teaching the boys, how to get their hands
on people and move men.
Speaker 0 (35m 58s): Are they also taping
tennis balls with their hands? Or is that
just
Speaker 2 (36m 1s): The defensive bag? Mark
Colombo? Not in the building anymore. You
wouldn't believe it. Who is the new offensive
line coach for the Dallas cowboy? Sean? I
don't know. Okay. Joe Philbin. Oh real. Are
you serious? You're going from a six, eight
mountain of a man who can show you how it's
done because he played in the league and now
you're bringing in the ultimate South park
guidance counselor, horrible head coach had
no had no chance being the head coach of that
dolphins team. And he's going to be your offensive
line.
Does he look like an offensive line coach
to you now? And they were going to bring back
Ben McAdoo too,
Speaker 0 (36m 39s): To be an offensive line
coach. You either have to be a super old guy,
super fat guy. You have to be chewing tobacco.
Speaker 2 (36m 45s): Have people forgotten
that Ben McAdoo was it Mike McCartney's coaching?
Speaker 0 (36m 50s): So to like Philbin is
one of those early pioneers of coaches getting
exposed on hard knocks. And you're like, Oh
my God, this guy's an NFL coach. He should
not. I mean, Dave Campo, of course we remember
him where you're like, Oh my God, this guy
shouldn't be a coach anymore. And, and Philbin
was early on that train where you're just
like, why would anyone listen to this dude?
He just seems like some egg nerd. You need,
you need to be a giant fat guy.
Speaker 2 (37m 16s): So as, as, as a guy who's
been in the trenches, Sean, you have,
Speaker 0 (37m 22s): I can't say what's going
on there run. You don't want to know have
to be alarmed. What else?
Speaker 2 (37m 26s): This is concerning. This
is the next level shouldn't bring into this
podcast. But this is concerning to you now,
what have I also told you, Sean, the most
important position on the line, the center
he retired. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (37m 41s): Do you want to be a part
of the, of the new era, Dallas, Calvin
Speaker 2 (37m 45s): He's got injury problems.
We know the track record of this cowboy steam.
When he misses time, it's not about Dak or
I'm sorry. Apologies. It's not about you rain.
It's not about you. Big fat Zeke Elliot. It's
not about a Mari Cooper. It's not about CD
land. AKA Kevin Durant. It's about Tyron Smith.
And if he, if this offensive line takes a
step back because of the coaching, because
Travis Frederick is not there anymore. And
Tyron Smith misses some times that the house
of cards could come tumbling down and then
Sean music to my ears, the secondary, the
only bright spot he's he's out, the goddamn
building in secondary is gonna be a problem.
Robert Quinn was really good. They lost him
the path they, the Michael Bennett,
Speaker 0 (38m 36s): Gerald McCoy also,
Speaker 2 (38m 38s): I mean nice transition
Speaker 0 (38m 40s): Contributors to the defensive
line. It's coming back to the offensive line
real quick. Everyone gave me so much shit.
Zeke's not in your top 10 running backs Zeke.
Are you kidding me? Zeke Zeke's production
Ryan. It continues on a downward trend. Rookie
year, 108.7 yards per game. Second year 98.3
third year 95.6 last year 84.8. Wow. He's
already has almost 1200 career caries and
this is a guy not taking care of his body.
Like the dude just looks like a giant fat
ass. I mean the train down in Cabo. What on
how to drink margarita? It's like, come on,
dude. You're not training Tracy
Speaker 2 (39m 19s): In Cabo. No one trains
in COVID
Speaker 0 (39m 22s): How to take ecstasy properly.
Like you're not going there. And that just
kind of speaks to Zeke as a person that he's
just, I mean, he's a big boy. He had a ton
of carers. He's in college. He's had a ton
of caries this far and Cowboys. I mean they're
they already paid him for some reason. If
you're going to get a draft chapter running
back high, which again, not a good idea. Longterm,
you got to just, and maybe Cowboys are doing
the right thing. Just blow in the tires out
on this guy. As soon as
Speaker 2 (39m 48s): Five year, five year
lease, hand it back here. Your keys, your
problem. Now, Sean, the last thing I was going
to say about the defense is, you know, who
their defensive coordinator is. I really went
into the coaching area. Yeah, I like it. Mike
Nolan. Remember him. Remember last time, last
time we, we, we heard from him, he was destroying
the Atlanta Falcons defense taking the number
eight DVO D VOA defense in 2011. And by 2013,
ha ha had them at 28th, by 2014, they were
dead last in the national football league.
So I mean, I, I
Speaker 0 (40m 23s): Debra everyone's hyping
up, you know, the rookie CD, lamb and Gallup,
and they're gonna be thrown all over the place,
but let's, let's look at this. Realistically.
They also
Speaker 2 (40m 32s): Darwin actually fantasy
deep. You're playing one of these crazy deep
10, 10 bench spot leagues, but someone's gotta
be the fucking tight end.
Speaker 0 (40m 40s): It's true. But Randall
Cobb, they lost her Randall cotton. You think
like, Oh, Randall, Cobb Randall Cobb had 828
receiving yards and 6.1 yards after the catch,
like he had an impact on this Cowboys team.
So even if CD lamb can get 828 yards in a
season, that's a pretty damn good rookie season.
And you're still just back to where you were
as far as total passing yards. And again,
Speaker 2 (41m 1s): And you got to pick me.
I mean, Winton, that was productive, right?
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (41m 4s): Yeah. And Dakota, that
was like a career year. Last year. People
forget because he only went eight and eight.
But I think if you're expecting him to go
higher than he did last year, as far as his
stats and numbers, I think that's, I think
last year was the good year. Yeah. That was
the outlier year. I think it's going to be
tough for him to do it again. Coming back
to the defense. Now you have a second round
rookie quarterback, a cornerback expected
to start, like you're going to have your hands
full Trayvon digs. And sometimes quarterbacks
come and can do okay.
Starting, but generally, I mean, if you're
a 
Speaker 2 (41m 39s): Even Latimer, if you
looked at the numbers, like he wasn't a leader
or anything, he just, he had he meet, he had
good turnover. Yeah. He hit a good turnover
season, but you're still gonna get beat rookie
quarterbacks get beat. And I think if you're
a Cowboys fan, you're, you're winning shootouts
this year, you're winning the race to 30.
Cause I don't think your defense is going
to be that reliable. And I don't think it's
going to be a race to 20. I think that one
of the concerns, if you're a Cowboys fan is
the fact that a, what if rains says, what
of rains Cape or abilities matched up nicely
or more nicely with what they were doing under
Garrett and you know, whoever was dictating,
what was going on there?
I'm blanking on his name, the Boise state
quarterback, Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore is
still there. So who knows, is he still going
to influence the big fat guy? I don't think
so. His whole emo is his fucking orphans.
I got to imagine they're going to shift it.
Part of what Dak is good at is the vertical
passing. If you look at his two good years,
it's be all about the vertical passing. So
I, I do question, I do wonder like completely
objectively, if it makes sense for this office
to shift too much.
So maybe it won't, but you know, I think there's
going to be so much stress on the offense
to score 30 points every game. Cause the defense
is going to suck that we're going to see,
we're going to see this, this house of cards
fall apart, Sean. And when, when you're looking
at a wind total of nine and a half minus one
60 on the over plus one 30 on the under, Oh
wow. We, we know what this team is and this
team will forever be an eight and eight team
Sean and w you know, the offensive line concerns
is our big, because this team has always been
as that offensive line has gone.
And I can't stress to you enough. The move
from Mark Colombo to Joe Philbin is the move
of the division in my mind, because it takes
the Cowboys out of the consideration for a
team that can win this division in my mind.
Speaker 0 (43m 42s): And I think the way to
beat the Cowboys is going to be to pound the
rock, keep their offense off the field, keep
them at a sync. The 2019 Cowboys defense played
the easiest schedule of the opposing Russian
offenses. But in 2020, they are projected
to face the NFLs ninth toughest schedule of
runoff fences. So I think they're really going
to get tested you. We already went over all,
all the guys, they lost on the D line. I think
they're going to be susceptible to the deep
throw, and I think they're going to have trouble
with the run. So if you're looking to take
down the Cowboys, I think you pound the rock
and really just keep them off the, in the
same way.
That's how people beat the Packers last year,
even though they, they were a decent team
and won a bunch of games, I think that's kind
of the formula to beat this Cowboys team.
Speaker 2 (44m 24s): Well, and I, I, you know,
what, what worries me, Sean is what if the
offense is really good, but then again,
Speaker 3 (44m 33s): The defense feels like
a huge liability.
Speaker 2 (44m 35s): I think the stress of
the defense sucking and they're gonna, I can't
wait for the press conference where they lose
like 33 31, 28. And we got to hear McCarthy
talk about, I would fucking his, I love that.
I love that was the higher Sean. We should
go through the schedule before we do. I gave
you the wind total. It was nine and a half
the division there favored minus one, 10 plus
700 to win the conference 14 to one to win
the super bowl. That's crazy at Mike.
McCarthy's the coach, right? Yeah. Okay. First
four at Rams to open the season. I love that
spot for the Rams Atlanta, the new stadium,
Atlanta, Atlanta, no fans, of course, Atlanta
at home at Seattle Cleveland at home. I'll
tell you what. I love Atlanta coming in to
Dallas early. Again, continuity. It matters.
It's going to matter early in the season this
year, more than more than ever.
And I think when you're changing an offense
and you're at least changing, I gotta imagine
you're changing aspects of this offense and
it's going to be a little bit different. And,
and when you have a defense that's weak and
not going to be ahead of anyone. I don't,
I don't like your chances on the road. So
scratch those road games to start. Can Atlanta
come to town? Can Atlanta come to Dallas and
just outscore them? That offense is going
to shrink
Speaker 3 (46m 3s): The sake of argument.
Yes. Although I think the cowboy or the Falcons
kind of suck. So,
Speaker 2 (46m 8s): But isn't that the kind
of team that randomly beats the Cowboys because
they can score 40, right?
Speaker 3 (46m 13s): You're right. I mean
like, look at this Cowboys roster who on that
roster is gal guarding, Julio Jones. And then
if that goes, yeah, if that guy's garden,
Julio Jones, who's guarding captain. Rick.
I want to say one and three. I'll go. I'll
go two and two.
Speaker 2 (46m 29s): Oh, what the fuck would
alert your father to this giants at home Arizona
at home on Monday night, three, three home
games in a row there at Washington. And then
at Philly back to back road games,
Speaker 3 (46m 44s): Does this feels like
a two and two spot? Cause I mean, they're
at home against the giants and Cardinals.
Yeah. I think in Philly is going to be tough.
And in Washington, isn't an easy game either.
That's a lot of travel
Speaker 2 (46m 58s): Pittsburgh add home by
week, week 10 by a little later, that could
be bad for, for this team at Minnesota, Washington
on Thanksgiving, Thursday, and then at Baltimore,
the following Jesus Thanksgiving, you know,
when I looked the, the outsiders have them
as the 29th projected schedule. And I, I don't
know as we go through this that I'm seeing
a super, super easy schedule.
Speaker 3 (47m 24s): No, in Baltimore, in
Minnesota. I mean, they're coming off the,
by there, but again, pits they're, their home
games are scary to me because there are teams
that project to be able to score points. And
that's the kind of teams and again, Pittsburgh's
defense. They were pretty, pretty good against
the run. I think they could struggle to win
that game at Minnesota is always a tough spot.
The wind, the one in three. Yeah, I'll go
one and three. I would hate to be a Cowboys
fan and be a fan of our podcasts.
God bless those people for sticking it out.
Add Cincinnati San Francisco at home Philly
at home at giants to wrap it up so they can
meet the giants in the bangles. I'll go two
and two. They're not, they're not on the road
in New York. Right. And the giants are gonna
be really, I'll say two and two. You're wrong.
I'll say two and two. So he had them both
going seven and nine. No, we got or eight
and eight. I got, I'm going six and 10. Oh,
wow. Right. And you're crazy. Seven to nine
for me.
What do you mean? I'm crazy. The fuck's wrong
with you? So we're both on the under. I love
it. Lock it up, hit the lock sound effect.
Hit it again. And of course all the futures
are dumb because the Cowboys have no future.
What's that? What's them to miss the playoffs.
Oh, that's a great point. Ryan Dallas Cowboys
plus one 85. Miss the playoffs. Throw that
in the pot. Stir it up. Yeah. I'm going to,
I'm going to throw that in our future section,
going to load up that plus one 85. Yeah. Nothing
could go wrong with this team. They replaced
the six, eight offensive line Mo behemoth
with Joe Philbin.
If my book is going to give us, plus one 30
on the under nine and a half, I'll take that
and set a miss playoffs because at seven and
nine, who knows something could get wonky,
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Speaker 2 (51m 20s): Balls for me, right?
I think you're a tough guy. Huh?
Speaker 0 (51m 26s): New York giants.
Speaker 2 (51m 29s): All right, listen, I,
the film I'm listening, the film that the
football outsiders put forth to slander the
great Dave got him and the slander, the grandchildren.
Speaker 0 (51m 40s): How do you get rid of
Pat Shermer and not Gettleman? How is that?
How are you like, alright, we're cleaning
house. We're getting rid of Eli. We're getting
rid of Pat Shurmur. How do you clean house
Bay and bring Garrett and Freddy kitchens
in. But how has Gettleman still on the part
of the,
Speaker 2 (51m 54s): How is he still on the
team? It's just, the talent was given to Schermer
and he couldn't get it done. And that's something
we just need to move forward with. Now, Sean,
we need to move forward. We need to realize
there will be consequences in practice. We
need to realize that there will be accountability.
And we most importantly need to realize that
we will play football with tennis balls taped
to our hands.
Speaker 0 (52m 17s): Gentlemen admitted trying
to straddle the line between winning and rebuilding.
Fuck Jose quote miscalculation.
Speaker 2 (52m 23s): Yeah. It wasn't smart.
You can't do both.
Speaker 0 (52m 27s): Well. Isn't that what
they're doing now? What is the, what is the
Giant's plan for this year?
Speaker 2 (52m 33s): Well, all rise. First
of all. Okay. Joe, Jay brought in an all star
cast of coaches that are going to coach up
this young group of men.
Speaker 0 (52m 42s): The ocean's 11 NFL coaches.
Once he got the second story, man. Oh, this
guy he's good with computers.
Speaker 2 (52m 49s): This guy's in the kitchen.
Speaker 0 (52m 51s): Oh, Freddy kitchens.
He's like the he's the food expert. It's going
to get Daniel Jones on the nice.
Speaker 2 (52m 56s): Yeah.
Speaker 0 (52m 59s): This was a great quote
from Joe judge quarterback. Dale Jones is
going to take some hits this summer. And his
plan is to fill a Sox with bars of soap and
then quote, we're just going to take him out
back and wail on him for a while.
Speaker 2 (53m 10s): Again, Sean, you love
this guy. You hate that you can't root for
this guy. He's a special teams coach. What
have we learned from John Harbaugh who got
his stripes working in Philadelphia as a special
teams coach, what do you have to do as a special
teams? Coach shown you have to be able to
adjust. What has he done in Baltimore? He
has always been able to adjust and find a
system that works for his team. What will
Joe judge all rise do in New York, find a
way and find a system that will work with
his team.
If that's putting soap in socks and beating
the shit out of that private school pussy.
Let me say this again. If it means,
Speaker 0 (53m 52s): Did you just go on Joan's
a private school
Speaker 2 (53m 55s): That means putting soap
into socks and beating the private school.
Plus he had a Daniel Jones. That's fine by
me. If that means taping tennis balls to the
hands of your defensive backs, you quote,
teach them to not hold. That's fine by me.
If you want to make them run because accountability
is important with grown people nowadays, in
spite of what the millennials will tell you,
that's fine by me. Everything that Joe judge
is doing, I am aligned with. I am all in.
I'm wearing the headband Sean. And my favorite
part is you're. You're just grasping at straws
with really hard ass shit that you love and
try to make fun of him and saying, he's going
to lose the locker room. You are terrified
that Daniel Jones picks up 15 pounds of muscles
in the off season. You are terrified by the
con the peer concept, Sean, that Evan Ingram,
golden Tate, Sterling shepherd, Derrius Slayton,
and say Quan Barkley played zero snaps together
last year, Sean, you're terrified by the fact
that they got rid of Nate.
Speaker 0 (55m 5s): Who's the worst tackle
in the history. The second worst tackle.
Speaker 2 (55m 10s): Well after Eric Flowers
in the history of the nation,
Speaker 0 (55m 13s): Well he could have some,
he could have some competition as left tackle.
Andrew Thomas struggled in scrimmage as the
offensive line, let up five sacks, Lorenzo
Carter getting four and a half.
Speaker 2 (55m 24s): Well, they brought back
Lorenzo Cardos college positional coach to
come in. And I, you know, I was going to give
you for the, the, the guy who watches way
too much giants, shitty media on the internet.
Sean, the name to watch this year is Lorenzo
Carter. This dude is going to be a bonafide
pass rusher. They're going to be stout against
the run and they don't need that. Bum Deandre
Baker, that thief Deandre Baker, who wants
to disturb a nice Madden game, Sean, which
by the way, Monday night Madden 5:00 PM, 7:00
PM here on the West coast, we got a we're
going to be coming live tomorrow.
Tonight, Monday, probably as you listen,
Speaker 0 (56m 5s): Does does Deandre Baker,
does he get a share of sell with a Schermer
kicker? Algebraic Rose us Aldrick Rossa grows
us who witnesses reported. The kicker ran
a red light in an intersection between 90
and a hundred miles per hour. Then he crashed
into someone. Please say they caught to a
bloody to Rozas three hours later walking
on the side of the road, allegedly about a
mile from the scene. They bring in Graham
Gano who hasn't, who didn't kick last year.
So that's a good way to lose some close games
past cashers, like you said, dealt with a
ton of injuries.
I mean, yeah, maybe they all work out or maybe
they're just all injury prone, losers we'll
find out.
Speaker 2 (56m 46s): Well, golden Tate was
suspended for taking Dick boner medicine.
Speaker 0 (56m 50s): But again, after he left
the Philadelphia Eagles, he kind of lost his
way. The problem with this giants offense
is they're very predictable. They're very
old school.
Speaker 2 (57m 0s): Oh, here we go. Now, what
do you know about old school
Speaker 0 (57m 3s): On first downs in the
first three quarters? When the giants were
not 11 personnel, defenses had seven men in
the box, a 98% of the rushing of tents. They
still ran the ball 2.5 yards per carry. So
this
Speaker 2 (57m 16s): Yeah. And offensive revolutionary
and Jason Garrett,
Speaker 0 (57m 21s): I guarantee you Jason
Garrett wrote on the, on the whiteboard establish
the run. Joe judge looked at it and just not.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57m 28s): Yeah. All right.
Speaker 0 (57m 30s): First down we run the
ball. Second down. We run the ball. Third
down. We run the ball four yards in a cloud
of dust. That's it doesn't work in the NFL
anymore. Let's go baby Jones. Mr. Jones ranked
35th among all quarterbacks. That's impressive
because there's only 32 teams. Stop it ranked
35th among all quarterbacks with at least
four starts in yards per attempt at 6.6 and
30th in completion, ration rate at 61.9 turnover
margin. Maybe this works out for you guys,
maybe minus 17 turnover margin last year.
You feel like that can only get better. But
yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (58m 8s): 18 fumbles is tough. You
know, that is a lot, I think the same high
bar to cross actively. The reason you are
the reason you can throw shade at Daniel Jones
is you say, well, he, you know, he's essentially,
he's got the same problem as Haskins and that's,
he has no awareness of the rush and that's
not something he's ever going to figure out.
Well, the other side of the coin is he looked
good doing the things that matter. He looked
good moot with his movement. He looked good
with his speed. He looked good with his arm
strength, which I think was an area that people
try to get after him areas that he needs to
fix.
Hey, may lock onto his first target a little
bit too much. And he just, he just didn't
have that rush awareness. So you fix that
by hitting with bars of soap. Again, I'm okay
with that because Joe judge is the guy who
is going to correct the ship here in New York,
Sean, number one yards per play in the, in
the RPOs last year, Daniel Jones. So there's
reason to be optimistic. He had when the highs
were high, the lows were low, but most importantly,
he got the reps in.
And I think as, as someone who's watched a
quarterback stroke struggle through a rookie
year, we've watched many quarterbacks through
a rookie year. The most important metric seems
to be getting reps period. And so versus the
conversation with Haskins was all, we only
saw six starts or seven starts
Speaker 3 (59m 33s): You're you're you're
buying him because he looks slightly better
than twice.
Speaker 2 (59m 37s): No, no. I'm saying that
he got the reps, he got 12, what? 12, 13,
12 games in it. And again, the culture has
been fixed. We got rid of that locker room,
cancer, algebra, Rosa,
Speaker 3 (59m 49s): You at one point described
as their best player in the team. A couple
of other things to note, this is a gambling
podcast, Ryan 16 games on the schedule for
the giants. How many games are they favored
by more than two points in this season, four
incorrect one against the Redskins. There's
also against the Cardinals. There are one
point favorite at home, but the Redskins it's
like a two and a half.
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 16s): Well, it looks like
there's a lot of value in the New York times.
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 19s): Yeah. There, as far
as like the look headlines dogs in every game.
So you would recommend people instead of maybe
taking the wind total, just load up and bet.
Look at it. Line for the Dallas, for the New
York giants, every single game or my bookie,
daddy,
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 34s): You are, you're sitting
here and you're coming after the giants for
something that you love dogs, you know that
hungry dogs running back.
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 43s): Yeah. You know the
giant suck. And I told you this last year
and we go, we go through this dance every
year. I said they were going to suck. They
sucked. They were four and 12. Couldn't get
to that. That dangerously high school.
Speaker 2 (1h 0m 55s): There, there was a
lot of, a lot of hands, a lot outs
Speaker 3 (1h 0m 59s): The sequel one again,
I think there's some value in Deon Lewis in
a best ball format because he could be, I
think what's your goal here that he could
be involved in the passing game that they're
gonna, they can't trust Barkley on, on obvious
passing situations, which giants aren't going
to have many  was the third, the
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Speaker 2 (1h 1m 25s): We need to move on
to the schedule. Cause you're just embarrassing
yourself. This was a team that was unlucky
last year. They're going to win more games
this year, Sean. And, and last plastic. Last
thing I'll say
Speaker 3 (1h 1m 38s): Xavier McKinney. Who's
coming in for us.
Speaker 2 (1h 1m 40s): McKinney. Julian love.
Okay. And I mentioned that in the early in
the summer with the Sims that Julian love
could be the guy. Anyway, Sean, the culture
has been changed. I don't think you realize
this. I as someone who's watched some hilariously
bad head coaches flow through the building.
Yeah. This guy has something that Pat Schirmer
did not have. This guy has something that
Ben McAdoo did not have. This.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 6s): This is interesting
bet. Ryan let's go more career wins as a Giant's
head coach, Ben McAdoo or Joe judge. I would
take McAdoo right now.
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 16s): What's the number that
McAdoo house.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 18s): Let me look that up.
But I think he got 20. Let's see. He was no,
he was 11 and five and then two and 10. So
he has 13 wins. I don't think Jo judge sees
14 wins. Oh, that's true. That's two and a
half.
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 35s): You're out of your
mind. I mean, if you're offering me that wager
I'll happily take that wager. Alright. All,
I mean all rise, Sean, are you not paying
attention? I am. You want to go play for Joe
judge in New York. You want to strap it on
for Joe judge.
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 51s): Right? Look at their
schedule. Where are you finding these wins?
Speaker 2 (1h 2m 54s): Go through the fucking
schedule. Sean. All right. I know you were
going to try to bring this shade. It's all
because your Eagle's team's fucking medical
staff sucks. And the whole,
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 3s): They replaced the medical
staff and these guys still,
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 5s): Maybe they should have
maybe the grass is yellow, everywhere. And
they should have realized that first four
for the giants Pittsburgh on Monday night
football, the early game at Chicago, San Francisco
at home
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 17s): For the Steelers minus
three and a half already locked up
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 21s): San Francisco at home.
Wow. The giants at Rams. Really a tough start
to the schedule here
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 28s): In Chicago.
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 30s): Do they? Which game?
Which do they win? The home games? They probably
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 34s): Oh and for, and I think
you probably think I'm trolling you, but
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 38s): Have we seen Ben Roethlisberger
throw a football? Yeah, I was watching they're
they're busy looking for the and stuff. Yeah.
I'll say the giants go one and three here.
I'll be. How are you going to get to nine
and seven? Right? We're going to get there.
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 52s): And that's being generous.
Speaker 2 (1h 3m 55s): Where are you at? Dallas
Washington at Philly on Thursday night, Tampa.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 2s): I'll say one in three
schedule again.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 5s): I'm also going to go
one to three.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 7s): You got them two and
six. When does the hot streak start
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 10s): At Washington Philly
at home, late by week at Cincy at Seattle.
Although they play at 15 road games this year,
they go, they go to and to hear shit.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 24s): Maybe they'll win in
Cincinnati. Maybe
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 27s): Last for Arizona, Cleveland
app Baltimore. They won't need the game. Dallas
at home. They close out four and Oh Sean,
they, the community. Nate give me an eight
and eight season for the New York giants.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 40s): You gotta, I gotta
check your math on that.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 43s): What do you eat? I
got them going two and six and then six and
two.
Speaker 3 (1h 4m 48s): All right. You know
what for that last four I'll go one and three.
Did I get it? I got them to three and 13.
Speaker 2 (1h 4m 55s): You know what? I'm
changing it. The, the, the, the second sector
they're going to, and to give me a nine and
seven. Okay. You got three and 13. Yeah. And
that feels generous,
Speaker 3 (1h 5m 7s): Right? They're just
bad, man. I don't mean to like
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Speaker 2 (1h 6m 20s): Go. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (1h 6m 21s): Where did you want
to talk about any futures that are for the
New York Jags plus 400 to make the playoffs
minus six 52? I don't think minus six 50 is
worth it. Their window again, though. Under
is the way to go
Speaker 2 (1h 6m 34s): There. Wind total is
six minus one, 10 on the over minus one 20
on the under eight to one to win the division.
Sean, any of those futures?
Speaker 3 (1h 6m 43s): Didn't you? Do you
already threw out that you like them to win
the division? I plus 800, right?
Speaker 2 (1h 6m 47s): You and Walter football?
Yes, sir. Okay. Any other don't forget. Steve
Schermer and Zach Bronner writers over@sportspodcast.com.
You guys are all delusional. No, that's it.
But at nine and seven, they're going to win
the division. Sean, they're going to shock
the world. The rest of the division is going
to look like shit. And we get to talk about
your Eagles. Now how's your soft tissue doing?
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 12s): Tissue is doing fine
because I've been active this entire summer.
I, I maintain a strict hydration regimen.
Just knocked out another a hundred mile a
month. All my running.
Speaker 2 (1h 7m 23s): Running's not good
for you, dude. I've been waiting to have this
conversation
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 25s): Again. I don't even
think like him, Michael Sanders, a couple
of other guys dealing with soft tissue stuff.
I, I, aye.
Speaker 2 (1h 7m 31s): Is miles Sanders a
soft tissue thing too? Is it? Yeah. Okay.
I thought it was something else. I thought
I read it
Speaker 3 (1h 7m 38s): And I don't even think
a lot of these guys are actually injured.
I think they're just doing this as a way to
arrest the guys being super conservative.
Obviously Jaylen rager today did something
to his shoulder. He's going to be out three
weeks, not ideal, but again, and he was tackling
a defensive back on an interception that Jalen
hurts through which fucked Jalen hurts, which
is really annoying. Also like Pearson. I love
Doug Peterson. You shouldn't be letting you
know, after a play is intercepted in a scrimmage
against your own guys.
You shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 14s): A receiver who can't
tackle. Well, he got
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 16s): The tackle. He just,
he just jacked up his shoulder and clearly
injuries again, rookie
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 22s): Ricky receivers. If
they're not, he's just not going to contribute
this year.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 27s): It's certainly going
to hurt him. Starting late like that. Although
all the other receivers have looked good.
A rookie John Hightower, Deontay Burnett,
even JJR saying Whiteside, who I had thought
was a bus. He's getting a lot of praise.
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 39s): I've read positive
things about him. And, and the way you know,
the, the, the local, one of the locals guys
was, was touting him as a red zone threat.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 48s): I'll tell you who's
going to be sneaky. And he was sneaky last
year is Greg ward because Greg ward is almost
like a, a Zachary it's at a receiver position.
He doesn't know
Speaker 2 (1h 8m 57s): Really well. Greg ward
is just who willing to put his body on the
line.
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 2s): He doesn't, he doesn't
have tremendous speed or separation, but Carson
Wentz really trusts him. Loves throwing.
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 7s): Sounds like a Joe judge
kind of guy. Yeah. Except he's on a ride
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 12s): Lot. A lot of hype
about wins. Hasn't looked as sharp since 2017.
Again, like I said, they brought in a ton
of speed to Sean Jackson, knock on wood. If
you're with me, he's healthy. He's, he's just
toasting people. And we'll see, we won against
the red Sox.
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 27s): Assuming his soft tissue
is okay.
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 30s): And again, soft tissue
injuries are going to be a huge deal this
year. Cause you saw the same issue in 2011.
That's why they, the players like did battle
with the NFL about this ramp up period. And
there's still a bunch of these kinds of injuries.
So I mean, it is,
Speaker 2 (1h 9m 45s): But it's the offensive
line injuries that are the problem, right?
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 49s): Yeah. Andre Dillard,
he's out for the season and Brandon Brooks
out for the season. Braden Brooks, it sucks
cause that dude's an all pro, but if you're
gonna lose a offensive line position, probably
right. Guard is what you is, what you want
to lose. Luckily they brought back Jason Peters
who played at a pretty high level last year,
but he is super old. So yeah, left tackle
could be a real issue for this team. What
I would say in the positive is to bring in
enrich Gingerella there's going to be a lot
more whence in the bootleg, rolling out Wentz,
getting him outside the pocket where he thrives
creating plays off schedule.
So I think they're going to, depending on
who ends up being the left tackle, assuming
Jason, Peter slides over, you're going to
see a lot. Maybe they help them out with some
chip blocks. But yeah, I mean the offensive
line at losing two starters before the season
kicks off, not good Javan Hargrave, he's a
little banged up. Hopefully it comes back.
I'm really psyched about the defensive line
Fletcher Cox Malik Jackson. We didn't get
to see that last year. Mike Jackson season
ending injury on the first game of the season.
But again, you know, they bring in Derrius,
sleigh percent of the Eagles have had a true
number.
One quarterback, since a Santee Samuel, he's
going to help kind of smooth out the defensive
backfield. They lost Malcolm Jenkins, but
they brought Jayla mills over to kind of play
that safety role by all accounts. He's playing
really well in camp. Again, you can't really
judge what you're seeing in camp. Cause there's
no preseason but
Speaker 2 (1h 11m 18s): Much like the Washington
Redskins. This is a team that's going to come
down to the quarterback play. It's going to
come down to if that quarterback can rise
above being a nine and seven guy and that's
Carson wins. And then, you know, when you're
starting, when you, when you need to prove
something to your team, you need to prove
something to the fans. You need to prove something
to the division that you can be more than
a nine and seven guy. Doesn't help to start
the season with soft, soft tissue injuries.
Again, gotta make you wonder what's he doing
in the off season and prepare.
He's not practicing with tennis balls. He's
not running labs. He's not holding himself
accountable. Doug Peterson is soft. Doug Peterson
is a player's coach. He's not an accountability
coach. All right. He's not part of the, all
right. So it's a Superbowl ride.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 4s): Lucky on the defensive
side though, I kinda like what the defensive
backfield rounding out. We'll see Rodney with
cloud Jayla mills at safety. And then you
got Nicole Roby Coleman who could be, you
know, Patrick Robinson was huge for the Eagles
in 2017 out of that nickel quarterback spot.
And he's looked good in practice so far, Avanti,
Maddix, not a bad cornerback for your number
two
Speaker 2 (1h 12m 26s): Short as a guy who
has held on to a super bowl championship too
long. It's it's, it's fun to watch you go
through this period. You're still holding
on only a couple of years ago, and they've
been, they've made the playoffs three years
in a row.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 39s): You're talking to
the NFC East division champs address with
a little respect,
Speaker 2 (1h 12m 45s): Not a division that
the teams when back to back years, Jim Schwartz.
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 50s): Now finally, he's
able to bring some pressure because he has
guys that can guard and the defensive backfield,
Derry slays, a guy that can cover the number
one guy, look for him to travel to the number
one reason
Speaker 2 (1h 13m 1s): You, you don't. I mean,
I think you're overselling the fact that your,
your secondary issues are solved. And I think
you're also underselling the, the role of
a guy like Jenkins on a team. He was on a
team that clearly Peterson enables his veterans
to be leaders and to help manage the team.
So when you leave, when you lose someone who
clearly has got a tremendously valuable member
of management, it's always going to hurt that
team. And I think as far as bringing slay
in, I don't, they're still going to have issues
on the back end.
I think the, the, the counter to that would
be their front end should be better.
Speaker 0 (1h 13m 36s): Yeah. And if, if Malik
Jackson, if Malique Jackson, he could have
a huge year because if they're going to double
team Fletcher Cox, and then Javan Hargrave,
who's a little nicked up. Once he gets in
there, that's, that's a legit defensive tackle
rotation of Javan, Hargrave, Fletcher, Cox,
and Blake Jackson,
Speaker 2 (1h 13m 51s): Dramas of Carson ones.
Can't stay healthy. I mean, if he's already
getting hurt, that that's seriously concerning.
Cause he's not a guy that can play without
his legs. And to your point, to your point,
you don't like Jalen hurts. It's sad. Fells
the guy. I mean, stud Feld. You mean that's
not a guy you're getting behind. So I think
you are, you're terrified now because the
team's falling apart and we haven't even gotten
to the season again, you're terrified right
now because there's a losing Lou elusal game
to the Redskins week one on the dock.
Speaker 0 (1h 14m 22s): Same way that a Carson
Wentz thrives when the play breaks down and
he has to improvise and find, find a receiver
downfield, make a play, make something happen.
Can you say that Harrison? Yeah. All his best
throws are outside of the pocket. Doug Peterson.
I mean, you remember that 50 yard bomb to
Nelson Aguilar that helped me win 200 grand.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (1h 14m 42s): Remember, we're talking
about a guy who he's been, he's been slightly
above average in his career. And I think the
question is, can he do more this year?
Speaker 0 (1h 14m 52s): He has his much better
receiver talent. And assuming
Speaker 2 (1h 14m 55s): What better receiver
talent, Sean Jackson, they didn't have him
last year. They had a last year and he got
hurt shot, but now they have in the way it
works and they have a miss sheer and he's
going to get hurt. Well, he was, the rookie
was the, was the bright spot he's out already.
He's not going to continue talking about John
Hightower. I'm not talking about John Heights.
John hijab was going to contribute. The tight
ends are going to be a problem. When you play
the Eagles, it's going to be about
Speaker 0 (1h 15m 21s): 12 personnel with
the Sean Jackson and John Hightower. You have
two guys receivers that can run for four forties
and you have got her nerds again to Sean.
Jackson does so much for this team in the
same way that they dominate in 2017. Why?
Because Tory Smith, they had to respect Tory
Smith speed and play off, and then open up
the middle if Deshaun Jackson. And if he can't
get through it, then either rager or Hightower
will step in. That's why they bought. That's
why they drafted all these speed guys.
Speaker 2 (1h 15m 48s): And, and I think,
you know,
Speaker 0 (1h 15m 51s): We haven't even talked
about miles Sanders. Who's poised to be like,
you know things go right. He could be a top
five fantasy player, like he's going to be
involved
Speaker 2 (1h 15m 60s): For sure. I mean,
again, concerning that these guys are getting
banged up the way they are. It makes me wonder
how, how much dedication they're pouring back
into the program.
Speaker 0 (1h 16m 10s): But Kramer, to my
point that you kind of got me sidetracked
on in the same way that Carson Wentz thrives
on a play breaks down. Doug Peterson thrives
when faced with adversity. When is, what is
Doug Peterson done as best coaching? When
the team is five and six and they need to
run to get in the playoffs. When whence goes
down while they're having a magical year,
that's when Doug Peterson thrives, he's got
the players to listen to them. And unlike
every other team in the division he's been
there before. He knows what it's like to be
a head coach in the NFCS.
And none of these other three head coaches
can say that they're the only team in this
division that has continuity at the quarterback
head coach, offensive coordinator and defensive
coordinator.
Speaker 2 (1h 16m 53s): No. Yeah, that's fine.
I'm fine with all of that. I just, I, I, it
comes down to Carson Wednesday. It comes down
to what is Carson one's going to do. He's
going to be good and well, will he stay healthy?
Will he be able to win more than nine games?
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 6s): Injury report last
year, William, they took a cheap shot on him
in the playoff game. And he got knocked out
as F you know, I'm a fan of player safety
and Oh yeah. And Ryan, you keep, you, you
gleefully throw out these injuries. Injuries
are a serious thing and people should not
root for them. So you're generating a lot
of negative karma here, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (1h 17m 27s): Oh, man. I still remember
that Victor Cruz day. Alright, Sean, should
we, should we go through the sky last year?
The Eagles, when total was nine and a half,
they went under that wind, total winning only
nine games. Again, Carson Wentz. A lot of
question marks about his ability to deliver
in the post season. This year, the win total
is nine and a half minus one Oh five minus
one 25 is the on the under plus one 40. So
slight dogs in the division, Sean to the cowgirls,
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 57s): 10 to one, and just
kind of where they're positioned. They're
not getting any hype. Everyone. The media
is already gifted the division to the Dallas
Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (1h 18m 5s): I understand that.
I re I, I understand why you might think the
Eagles are gonna win the division. I, I can
see if your immediate memory, you said the
Eagles are the best team. They have the best
roster in this division. I don't see the argument
for why the Cowboys have the best roster.
I just don't see why people are just glossing
over the defense anyway, 20 to one to win
the super bowl show on the first floor of
the Eagles open at Washington Rams at home
bangles at home at Niners
Speaker 0 (1h 18m 34s): Three and one, I mean,
again, you're right. I am a little nervous
about their old line against Washington. I
think, I think there's too much talent for
them to lose that game. We're going to drop
the first one. Rams.
Speaker 2 (1h 18m 45s): A new controversy
is going to be a,
Speaker 0 (1h 18m 48s): The skins Rams at
home in Philly. Good spot to play in bangles.
We had a rookie quarterback game three that
game in San Francisco, prime time West coast.
That's a really tough spot. Although, although,
I mean the 40 Niners have just, since we taped
the NFC West preview, they've just been ravaged
with injuries and there's, there's going to
be one of those receivers is going to be a
DFS steel, but yeah, three in one,
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 14s): A bit of a hangover
potential. But yeah, I mean, it's a tough
road spot there. And then the following back-to-back
road spots, this is not the easiest stretch
at Pittsburgh, Baltimore at home giants at
home on Thursday night, and then Dallas at
home, three home games in a row.
Speaker 0 (1h 19m 32s): Love it. Three and
one. And I think what could happen is they
could lose the Steelers. Oh, they're three
and two sky's falling. And then they go on
a little bit of run Ravens non-conference
conference road game. Again, the yields have
done a very good job with Ron defect.
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 46s): I've always owned
the Eagles lately. No,
Speaker 0 (1h 19m 49s): They usually split.
It's weird actually, Dallas. It actually favors
the road team in the matchup, but I'm going
to say,
Speaker 2 (1h 19m 58s): I'm going to say two
and two. You're being way too optimistic.
Bi-week at giant. Oh, now it's getting tough
at giants at Cleveland, Seattle at home on
Monday night at green Bay. This is a tough
stretch to the schedule. Sean, I'm going to
say,
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 16s): I'd say they can go
to and to tune to that is that is kind of
tough. I mean, in green Bay is never easy.
The Seahawks kind of have their number. So
yeah, I think two inches
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 26s): For saints at home
at Arizona, at Dallas Washington at home,
I'm going to finish up two and two Sean
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 33s): For now, for now.
I mean, Kramer, Peter says get them to go
at 12 and four. Alright.
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 45s): 12 and four. I got
to meet Nate giants were in the division at
nine and seven. Fuck everyone rise, baby.
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 52s): And we got to look
at your, so you have everyone going under
Speaker 2 (1h 20m 56s): All my teams and see
if it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (1h 20m 58s): It there's no way.
It makes sense. You haven't predicted. I think
in like three episodes, one team to win more
than 10 games.
Speaker 2 (1h 21m 5s): You saying I'm shade.
Well, I'm doing our fans. I'm doing the DJs
of failure because you had no one winning
nine games. Sean, there's always value in
the 10, always value in the under.
Speaker 3 (1h 21m 19s): You have no team right
now. You have the Ravens going 11 and five.
Okay. And the Seahawks, which I actually,
I agree with the Seahawks there. Yeah.
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in this. I have to give out our bets. Oh,
you're right. The lox is Christ. Sean.
Okay. For my lock, that training camp report
must be a inaccurate. You're not a, you're
not on your, on your P's and Q's right now.
It's pretty easy for the lock under your giants
over Philadelphia Eagles. And maybe take a
small sprinkle on the Eagles future. We'll
say conference plus 1000. I don't want to
jinx it to Cowboys under okay.
Lock giants. No. You know what? I'm going
to lock up the Eagles under his all right.
Trying to insult me. Yup. That's fine. That's
fine. Eagles under not the Redskins under
Sean. You marked the wrong cell on the sheet.
And then I'll it. I'm just going to inform
you as a friend, as a colleague giant today
to win, to win this division. There's enough.
There's a lot of value there. Oh, I meant
to hit this one. All right, everyone. Thank
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