hey everybody's going from tested and it
is like 12:15 a.m. after the evening of
a cyber truck unveil and I bumped in an
old colleague this Ryan McCaffrey who we
just work together yes
over in the videogames business you ve
had oxm now you're a GN but people might
most know you from you're very
successful podcast in this context in
this context the context here we are
ride the lightning ride the lightnings
your podcast you've had so
congratulations by the way on all the
success yeah it's been super fun to just
cover this it's it's it's it's like
covering video games and that there's
just something new and fun literally
every week with this company it's wild
and so much speculation so many teases
and ome videogames are perfect analog
because what was shown today look like
it came out of video game like cyberpunk
2077 your you could not be more accurate
yeah I mean that's that's exactly
correct it's Elon promised it would be a
polarizing thing that like we'd never
seen in a regular car before that it
came straight on a Blade Runner and it
looks like it came straight at literally
off the Bladerunner set I mean you could
list all the 80s movies that this kind
of angular cyber truck references or
kind of knowledge is you know from the
DeLorean which you had a DeLorean you
drove it for a very long time I had that
car for 12 years so this what's wild is
I feel like the spirit of DeLorean Motor
Company which died 40 years ago has been
absorbed into it's like Tesla's carrying
it on because the Model X has the going
doors and now the cyber truck is a
stainless steel body it's it's awesome I
love that part of it so let's run
through some of the highlights from
details of the car it is a pickup truck
four doors six seater which is
interesting three in the front so the
center console is a seat that folds down
has six and a half foot bed for the
pickup truck equivalent but because
there's a cover that covers the back
there's no actual real rearview mirrors
on the either the side on this model or
even in the center it remains of course
the the next
raishin roadster which is again also not
yet on the road also does not have
sideview mirrors for in that cars case
it's for aerodynamic reasons they're
trying to eat every ounce of speed and
and drag coefficient out of the out of
it that they can so the American
government they know some some places in
Europe we've got to catch up here so
we'll see if if the legislation has
caught up by the time roadster and cyber
truck are actually ready to hit the road
otherwise they're gonna have to put
mirrors on it which just isn't gonna
work with this thing yeah
you can't put what are they gonna look
like they're just gonna look at a place
no matter what I mean I think they're
betting on autonomous driving by a time
this comes out for at least four
freeways and that's why you know the
rear view mirror in the center is a
video display it looks like it's very
high refresh rate it doesn't look like
this eye tracking for like parallax but
it looks like you know it's a rear-view
camera that's always the Chevy bolt have
something similar to that I had
something you can switch okay so I
display yeah yeah which i think is super
cool yeah and they're obviously you I
you user experience things that they'll
figure out i speaking of the - it is
17-inch like the model 3 with a little
bigger a little bigger 15 right 17-inch
little bigger in this car for a much
bigger vehicle makes a ton of sense and
in this pre-production version that we
were a little test ride in it looks like
it's a new UI yeah and it looks really
slick too like I wonder if this is just
something that the design team is
playing around with or if this is in
some way shape or form either a little
or a lot a sneak preview of version 11
that will we'll probably get in about a
year from now because Tesla like Apple
does kind of yearly major OS release big
long rumored refresh for s and X
bringing it something more like the
three very minimal information on the
left side and the bottom big graphic
like 3d graphics for navigation on the
center it was in a dark mode obviously
because it was at night but uh very you
know it's very like model 3 but the next
version yeah and no no signal stalks in
this car so you you select the gear Park
reverse neutral Drive by touching the
screen which I think that's a cool like
great we can get rid of that but I
know how it's gonna work for a autopilot
how are you gonna turn on autopilot and
turn it off when you want it off and B
what about turn signals how are you
going to activate your turn signal so
that remains to be seen
right well what did the turn signals
even look like because the back is very
one long LED red LED just like the front
has the long strip of this bright light
yeah white light very minimal in terms
of controls very reminiscent of the new
the new roadster in terms of the
steering wheel it's sort of the
roadsters it's like a steering yoke you
know but it's all carbon fibre and like
it's very kind of racecar looking this
the the steering yoke and this to me
looked like if the roadster yoke and the
model three steering wheel had a baby
because it kind of had that had scroll
wheels on it
and it kind of had a little bit of a
more of a model three wheel look to it
but in yoke form right and I got to
right in the back middle see - it's very
spacious like a lot of headroom was what
my takeaway away and a ton of headroom
in the first row because the way that
sloped glass it Peaks over the over the
first row and then it's starting to
slope down so taller people want to ride
in the front but yes still plenty of
headroom right exactly they were saying
the six foot driver would have no
problem
you know let's see riding in there and
also massive piece of glass above the
passenger rear seats yeah for me I don't
know about how you felt but as cyberpunk
and Blade Runner as the outside looks
I actually think beat the interior felt
and looked even more so more cyberpunk
but and III think I like the interior of
this thing even more than I like the
exterior the interior I think is
gorgeous in that like you said that the
just two huge pieces of glass and the
it's very spacious and wide and and the
that this we haven't yet talked about
the the - yeah this is some sort of this
unconfirmed but I've I asked what it was
the driver said oh it's something
special either didn't know or didn't say
but then I'm seeing another report from
someone else that's here that says it's
it's some sort of paper-based thing so I
again I don't know if that's true I
don't want to spread hearsay but
it looked like a marble like sink from
it from a very high-end like hotel
bathroom I think that's a good analogy
the high-end hotel kitchen countertop
because while it's not granite or actual
marble and that someone was able to
confirm it for me it is porous so some
type of new material that has and just
like the model three has the wood they
want that's why they want texture yes
right in that - part the rest of it was
the kind of the Swedish material the
synthetic leather you know vegan vegan
leather they're not gonna introduce any
animal products back into them so it's
all all synthetic I'm sure but yeah the
seats felt fine I mean I was we were
both in the middle seat so that's kind
of hard to judge in the back of the
front seats did inherit some of that
like low poly look now I think my
suspicion is that may not last just like
when they showed the Model X they had
the real shiny you know bucket seats and
that could have just been for the
pre-production model all this stuff
everything is subject refinement and
change yeah yeah I mean they've got two
years before this thing hits the road it
inevitably will undergo some some tweaks
and changes I mean our guests are the
are the tires like custom because they
like match the pattern match those
proprietary wheels so I mean yeah that
there's a lot that remains to be seen on
this thing but the price way less than I
thought I think that's the that was a
big surprise right 39,000 for the base
model which is single motor miles 250
miles
it goes up to 500 which is the tri-motor
when that's a big question cuz when we
wrote in was the dual motor I think
they're still figuring out what does the
third motor how to integrate they're
still working that's the the presumably
it's at least a variation of the plaid
chassis and interface that's being
tested at the Nurburgring with the Model
S now and that's the test bed for the
Roadster and then presumably some
version of it will go into the tri-motor
high-end version of the cyber truck as
well which is why the highest q here is
gonna ship the latest in 2020 to the
opposite of what tesla usually does they
usually do the most expensive one first
for a number of reasons yeah and so
right now you can put a downpayment one
hundred bucks
for the 39,000 model they hope to get to
be in production by end of 2021 which in
Tesla time means probably you know
spring 2022 at the earliest but the
other thing that the thing I've learned
over the years about Tesla is they may
not be good about hitting deadlines the
way they say production deadlines but
everything that Elon said they're gonna
do I can almost guarantee you history
tells us now they're gonna do it
they have never like really dumbed
something down that the production car
is almost always better than what the
prototype was it was true with the s it
was true with the X other than the lack
of total fold down 2nd row seats and
arguably the even the like my
performance model 3 is better than the
the model 3 alpha prototype that I wrote
in here three years ago and we don't
know what the landscape is gonna look
like three years from now just this week
we had electric cars announced from Ford
from Volkswagen and there's lots get me
you know competition from Audi other
high-end car makers and and of course
traditional car makers turning to
electric vehicles for even like trucks
so yeah we don't know by the time 2021
comes around I know design is
controversial I think they're leading
totally into it
yeah and and that is there you know bold
decision it is gonna be a creative risk
but that's Tesla that's Elon
yeah yawns gonna do he's not afraid like
this this car for better for worse would
never get made at any other company I'm
very confident in saying that there's
just no way it would be it would have
been rejected but while it was on paper
I also want to say that there are they
had a VR demo here which is interesting
and I talked some engineer's they made
it in two weeks this demo and does use
the same CAD models that they the design
team used for the actual cyber trucks so
they don't know if they can release that
so the outside world because it would
have the same assets for people that
kind of aid there they had that for them
here at the model y unveiling too and
they never released that so I wouldn't
get my hopes up ya know those needs kind
of be in there and kind of see the whole
thing virtually and you know it's all
very high-tech VR you know electric cars
yes yeah Blade Runner props if they
really went all out with this event Ryan
thank you so much for chatting with you
afterward I know so late but people
definitely check out your podcast ride
the lightning thank you guys the website
is just you can find it on any major
podcaster is to search ride the
lightning Tesla on episode 200 which was
a few months ago I had a one-hour
interview with Elon Musk so that's as
good a place to start as any if you want
to check out my podcast awesome and I'm
sure we'll of much more to talk about
and think about with the cyber truck
this is literally hours after the unveil
think you're gonna Ryan take it all
there for watching and see you next time
