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>>> WE, TOO, HAVE SEEN THE FACE
>>> WE, TOO, HAVE SEEN THE FACE OF SUCH EVIL WITH ATTACKS IN
OF SUCH EVIL WITH ATTACKS IN PLACES LIKE PITTSBURGH AND
PLACES LIKE PITTSBURGH AND CHARLESTON.
CHARLESTON. I WANT TO MAKE ONE THING VERY
I WANT TO MAKE ONE THING VERY CLEAR, WE WILL NOT PERMIT SUCH
CLEAR, WE WILL NOT PERMIT SUCH HATE IN THE HOMELAND.
HATE IN THE HOMELAND. >> WELCOME BACK, THAT WAS
>> WELCOME BACK, THAT WAS HOMELAND SECURITY TRYING TO DOWN
HOMELAND SECURITY TRYING TO DOWN PLAY EXCITE SUE PRIM CYSTPREMCIS
PLAY EXCITE SUE PRIM CYSTPREMCIS THERE WAS MORE THAN 1000 HATE
THERE WAS MORE THAN 1000 HATE GROUPS LAST YEAR AND 148 WHITE
GROUPS LAST YEAR AND 148 WHITE NATIONALIST GROUPS, UP 100% FROM
NATIONALIST GROUPS, UP 100% FROM THE LAST YEAR.
THE LAST YEAR. THE LATEST NEW ZEALAND ATTACKS
THE LATEST NEW ZEALAND ATTACKS ARE THE LATEST REMINDER THAT
ARE THE LATEST REMINDER THAT SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE ALSO
SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE ALSO STRUGGLING TO REIGN IN
STRUGGLING TO REIGN IN EXTREMISM.
EXTREMISM. FACEBOOK SAYS IT REMOVED A
FACEBOOK SAYS IT REMOVED A MILLION AND A HALF VIDEOS OF THE
MILLION AND A HALF VIDEOS OF THE ATTACK WITHIN 24 HOURS, THERE
ATTACK WITHIN 24 HOURS, THERE ARE STILL A LOT MORE.
ARE STILL A LOT MORE. WITH ME NOW IS FRANK FIGLUZZI.
WITH ME NOW IS FRANK FIGLUZZI. ALSO BEN COLLINS WHO COVERS
ALSO BEN COLLINS WHO COVERS EXTREMENDOUSISMEX
EXTREMENDOUSISMEX EXTREMISM AND THE INTERNET.
EXTREMISM AND THE INTERNET. WHAT IS HE DOING TO TACKLE THIS
WHAT IS HE DOING TO TACKLE THIS THREAT?
THREAT? >> THIS RADICAL ONLINE
>> THIS RADICAL ONLINE ORGANIZATION IS NOTHING NEW TO
ORGANIZATION IS NOTHING NEW TO ONLINE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES,
ONLINE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, BUT WHAT IS KNEW IS THE SPACE
BUT WHAT IS KNEW IS THE SPACE THAT IT IS HAPPENING WITH THE
THAT IT IS HAPPENING WITH THE FAR RIGHT AND VIOLENCE
FAR RIGHT AND VIOLENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE GROUPS.
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE GROUPS. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BODY OF
WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BODY OF KNOWLEDGE WITH REGARD TO HOW
KNOWLEDGE WITH REGARD TO HOW RADICAL VIOLENT MUSLIMS GET
RADICAL VIOLENT MUSLIMS GET RADICALIZED ONLINE.
RADICALIZED ONLINE. BUT WHAT WE’RE SEEING, CASEKATIE
BUT WHAT WE’RE SEEING, CASEKATIE AN INTERESTING COMPARISON TO
AN INTERESTING COMPARISON TO WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN SOCIAL
WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND RADICALIZATION ON THE
MEDIA AND RADICALIZATION ON THE FAR RIGHT.
FAR RIGHT. THIS IS ALMOST A GAME OF
THIS IS ALMOST A GAME OF WHACK-A-MOLE.
WHACK-A-MOLE. ONCE YOU TAKE DOWN AN OFFENSIVE
ONCE YOU TAKE DOWN AN OFFENSIVE VIDEO OR POSTING ANOTHER COMES
VIDEO OR POSTING ANOTHER COMES UP OR YOU DENY SOMEONE PRIVILEGE
UP OR YOU DENY SOMEONE PRIVILEGE FOR ACCESS.
FOR ACCESS. ANOTHER ONE COMES UP LATER, AND
ANOTHER ONE COMES UP LATER, AND IT IS A BEAST THAT NEEDS TO BE
IT IS A BEAST THAT NEEDS TO BE TAMED.
TAMED. AND CURRENTLY LEGISLATION AND
AND CURRENTLY LEGISLATION AND THE SHARING OF INFORMATION AND
THE SHARING OF INFORMATION AND STRATEGY BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
STRATEGY BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PLATFORM PROVIDERS ARE NOT
AND PLATFORM PROVIDERS ARE NOT YET WHERE WE’RE MAKING A DENT IN
YET WHERE WE’RE MAKING A DENT IN IT, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IF
IT, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IF THE TOOL IS THERE FOR THE FBI,
THE TOOL IS THERE FOR THE FBI, IS THERE PROPER OVERSIGHT OF THE
IS THERE PROPER OVERSIGHT OF THE SILICON VALLEY, AND WHAT IS THE
SILICON VALLEY, AND WHAT IS THE STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH IT.
STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH IT. >> THEY CAN USE THE ISIS
>> THEY CAN USE THE ISIS PLAYBOOK.
PLAYBOOK. THEY USED THIS IN THE PAST, THEY
THEY USED THIS IN THE PAST, THEY KNOW WHERE TO TAKE DOWN THE
KNOW WHERE TO TAKE DOWN THE VIDEOS AND FIND THE VIDEOS, AND
VIDEOS AND FIND THE VIDEOS, AND THE PATHS.
THE PATHS. RESEARCHERS HAVE BEEN TELLING
RESEARCHERS HAVE BEEN TELLING FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE THIS --
FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE THIS -- >> ARE THERE CERTAIN KEYWORDS --
>> ARE THERE CERTAIN KEYWORDS -- >> YEAH, THERE IS VERY SPECIFIC
>> YEAH, THERE IS VERY SPECIFIC PATH WAYWAYS FROM RELATIVELY NOR
PATH WAYWAYS FROM RELATIVELY NOR POLITICAL CONTENT TO EXTREMIST
POLITICAL CONTENT TO EXTREMIST VIDEOS, RIGHT?
VIDEOS, RIGHT? THEY KNOW HOW TO USE KEYWORDS,
THEY KNOW HOW TO USE KEYWORDS, AND AUTO PLAY BOXES, THEY START
AND AUTO PLAY BOXES, THEY START IN A PRETTY DECENT PLACE, AND
IN A PRETTY DECENT PLACE, AND THEY ENDED IN A PRETTY BAD PLACE
THEY ENDED IN A PRETTY BAD PLACE BECAUSE THEY WERE VULNERABLE.
BECAUSE THEY WERE VULNERABLE. >> THE ANSWER IS POLITICS.
>> THE ANSWER IS POLITICS. >> IT’S EASY TO SAY THAT WE
>> IT’S EASY TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ISIS ON OUR
SHOULD NOT HAVE ISIS ON OUR PLATFORM, RIGHT?
PLATFORM, RIGHT? THERE IS DIFFERENCES IN WHITE
THERE IS DIFFERENCES IN WHITE NATIONALISM
NATIONALISM NATIONALISM, RIGHT?
NATIONALISM, RIGHT? IS SOME OF IT ALL RIGHT AND SOME
IS SOME OF IT ALL RIGHT AND SOME OF IT NOT?
OF IT NOT? THE FAR RIGHT SAYS THIS IS A
THE FAR RIGHT SAYS THIS IS A PEACH ISSUE
PEACH ISSUE SPEECH ISSUE.
SPEECH ISSUE. THE CONSERVATIVES WILL SAY
THE CONSERVATIVES WILL SAY YOU’RE TRYING TO QUIET US.
YOU’RE TRYING TO QUIET US. WHY DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED
WHY DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO HELP PROTECT RIGHT WING
TO HELP PROTECT RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS.
EXTREMISTS. >> THEIR BASE IS NOT THAT, BUT
>> THEIR BASE IS NOT THAT, BUT IT COULD BRUSH UP AGAINST THINGS
IT COULD BRUSH UP AGAINST THINGS THAT BRUSH UP AGAINST THE
THAT BRUSH UP AGAINST THE EXTREMISTS.
EXTREMISTS. >> THAT IS WHY IT IS POLITICAL.
>> THAT IS WHY IT IS POLITICAL. >> SO WHEN ELIZABETH WARREN PUTS
>> SO WHEN ELIZABETH WARREN PUTS OUT SOMETHING THAT SAYS MAYBE WE
OUT SOMETHING THAT SAYS MAYBE WE SHOULD BREAK UP THESE COMPANIES,
SHOULD BREAK UP THESE COMPANIES, HE AND THE PEOPLE IN THAT SPHERE
HE AND THE PEOPLE IN THAT SPHERE ARE TRYING TO TAKE THAT
ARE TRYING TO TAKE THAT CONVERSATION AND TURN IT INTO
CONVERSATION AND TURN IT INTO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HATE
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HATE SPEECH.
SPEECH. >> BECAUSE IT WILL SOMEHOW BLEED
>> BECAUSE IT WILL SOMEHOW BLEED INTO CONSERVATIVE VOICES.
INTO CONSERVATIVE VOICES. >> PEOPLE SHOULD BE TAKING A
>> PEOPLE SHOULD BE TAKING A STAND HERE AND SAYING NO, THIS
STAND HERE AND SAYING NO, THIS IS NOT US, IT ISN’T THEM.
IS NOT US, IT ISN’T THEM. >> IT IS WEIRD THEY’RE DEFENDING
>> IT IS WEIRD THEY’RE DEFENDING THAT.
THAT. IS POLITICS PART OF THE ISSUE IN
IS POLITICS PART OF THE ISSUE IN TRYING TO ROOT OUT OR TRYING TO,
TRYING TO ROOT OUT OR TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU’RE LOOKING AT
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU’RE LOOKING AT ISIS OR YOU’RE LOOKING AT
ISIS OR YOU’RE LOOKING AT RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM, I
RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM, I COVERED A NUMBER OF STORIES
COVERED A NUMBER OF STORIES WHERE THE FBI WOULD TRACK YOUNG
WHERE THE FBI WOULD TRACK YOUNG KIDS OR YOUNG MEN AND THEY WOULD
KIDS OR YOUNG MEN AND THEY WOULD TALK TO THEM ONLINE AND SAY YOU
TALK TO THEM ONLINE AND SAY YOU KNOW, HERE IS HOW YOU BUILD A
KNOW, HERE IS HOW YOU BUILD A BOMB OR GET YOUR BOMB MAKING
BOMB OR GET YOUR BOMB MAKING MATERIALS, AND THEY TRACK THAT
MATERIALS, AND THEY TRACK THAT PERSON AS THAT PERSON
PERSON AS THAT PERSON RADICALIZED AND ARREST THEM
RADICALIZED AND ARREST THEM BEFORE THEY COULD DO ANYTHING
BEFORE THEY COULD DO ANYTHING BAD.
BAD. WHY IS THE SAME NOT BEING DONE
WHY IS THE SAME NOT BEING DONE FOR WHITE EXTREMISTS?
FOR WHITE EXTREMISTS? OR IS IT BEING DONE?
OR IS IT BEING DONE? >> NO, IT IS TIME TO SERIOUSLY
>> NO, IT IS TIME TO SERIOUSLY ASK THAT QUESTION AND WRESTLE
ASK THAT QUESTION AND WRESTLE WITH IT.
WITH IT. POLITICS DOES ENTER IN, ONCE YOU
POLITICS DOES ENTER IN, ONCE YOU MENTION THE NEED FOR A DOMESTIC
MENTION THE NEED FOR A DOMESTIC TERRORISM STATUTE, YOU WILL HERE
TERRORISM STATUTE, YOU WILL HERE PEOPLE SCREAMING THIS IS THE
PEOPLE SCREAMING THIS IS THE THOUGHT POLICE, YOU’RE TRYING TO
THOUGHT POLICE, YOU’RE TRYING TO SUPPRESS THOUGHT.
SUPPRESS THOUGHT. MY ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THIS
MY ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THOUGHT, IT IS
IS NOT ABOUT THOUGHT, IT IS ABOUT VERBALIZING AN INVENTION
ABOUT VERBALIZING AN INVENTION TO EXCITE VIOLENCEE COMMIT VIOLE
TO EXCITE VIOLENCEE COMMIT VIOLE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT GOING ON IN
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT GOING ON IN DROVES ONLINE, IT’S TIME TO DO
DROVES ONLINE, IT’S TIME TO DO IT HEAD ON BETWEEN LAW
IT HEAD ON BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROVIDERS.
ENFORCEMENT AND PROVIDERS. WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK AT RECENT
WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK AT RECENT PASTS.
PASTS. A KIND OF RADICALIZED PERSON
A KIND OF RADICALIZED PERSON ONLINE.
ONLINE. ENDING BOMBS TO POLITICIANS AND
ENDING BOMBS TO POLITICIANS AND MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS.
MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS. LOOK AT THE PITTSBURGH SYNAGOGUE
LOOK AT THE PITTSBURGH SYNAGOGUE SHOOTER, THE SAME THING,
SHOOTER, THE SAME THING, ADVOCATING VIOLENCE AND WHITE
ADVOCATING VIOLENCE AND WHITE SUPREMACY.
SUPREMACY. IF WE DON’T GET OUT IN FRONT OF
IF WE DON’T GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT IT WILL JUST KEEP HAPPENING.
IT IT WILL JUST KEEP HAPPENING. THE PRESIDENT REPRESENTS A
THE PRESIDENT REPRESENTS A BELIEVE PULPIT.
BELIEVE PULPIT. THE SAME GOES FOR STATE
THE SAME GOES FOR STATE SUBSIDIZED NEWS NEXT THAT
SUBSIDIZED NEWS NEXT THAT REFUSES TO DENOUNCE THIS KIND OF
REFUSES TO DENOUNCE THIS KIND OF THING, THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR
THING, THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR RIGHT ARM TO HAVE THAT FRESH
RIGHT ARM TO HAVE THAT FRESH DILLLY CONTENT GOING ON AND
DILLLY CONTENT GOING ON AND WE’RE SEEING IT HAPPEN ON THE
WE’RE SEEING IT HAPPEN ON THE FAR RIGHT?
FAR RIGHT? >> IS IT BECAUSE THE WORD WHITE
>> IS IT BECAUSE THE WORD WHITE IS INVOLVED, IT IS WHITE
IS INVOLVED, IT IS WHITE EXTREMISM, IS THAT WHY THERE IS
EXTREMISM, IS THAT WHY THERE IS SUCH PUSH BACK.
SUCH PUSH BACK. IF IT WAS BLACK EXTREMISM OR
IF IT WAS BLACK EXTREMISM OR MUSLIM EXTREMISM?
MUSLIM EXTREMISM? INDIAN EXTREMISM, WOULD THAT BE
INDIAN EXTREMISM, WOULD THAT BE AS HARD TO TACKLE?
AS HARD TO TACKLE? >> YOU’RE ASKING THE RIGHT
>> YOU’RE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND I THINK THERE IS A
QUESTIONS AND I THINK THERE IS A BODY OF EVIDENCE THAT INDICATES
BODY OF EVIDENCE THAT INDICATES THAT WHEN WHITE PEOPLE COMMIT
THAT WHEN WHITE PEOPLE COMMIT THESE KINDS OF CRIMES THEIR
THESE KINDS OF CRIMES THEIR CRAZY.
CRAZY. AND WHEN PEOPLE OF OTHER COLOR
AND WHEN PEOPLE OF OTHER COLOR COMMIT THE CRIMES THEIR
COMMIT THE CRIMES THEIR TERRORISTS.
TERRORISTS. WE DON’T HAVE A DOMESTIC
WE DON’T HAVE A DOMESTIC TERRORIST STATUTE THAT DRAWS A
TERRORIST STATUTE THAT DRAWS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ROBBING A
DISTINCTION BETWEEN ROBBING A BANK TO GET FOOD ON YOUR TABLE
BANK TO GET FOOD ON YOUR TABLE AND ROBBING A BANK TO FUND
AND ROBBING A BANK TO FUND BLOWING UP A BUILDING FOR
BLOWING UP A BUILDING FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
POLITICAL PURPOSES. BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE GET TEN
BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE GET TEN YEARS IN PRISON.
YEARS IN PRISON. IT IS TIME TO THINK ABOUT A NEW
IT IS TIME TO THINK ABOUT A NEW DOMESTIC TERRORISM STATUTE.
