THE "DAN YORKE'S STATE OF
MIND" PROGRAM IS BROUGHT TO YOU
BY LOOKOUT RHODE ISLAND AND TACO
COMFORT SOLUTIONS.
DAN:
WELCOME INTO MY STATE OF
MIND.
I'M DAN YORKE, FRESH FROM A
LITTLE VACATION BREAK.
WE HAVE HAD A WEIRD SCHEDULE
OVER THE COURSE OF COVID SEASON.
WE WILL TRY TO STEADY HEAD UP
FOR YOU.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU IN.
TONIGHT YOU ARE WATCHING THIS
PROGRAM IN SAME-DAY TIME.
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON I HAD A
CONVERSATION WITH FRIEND OF THE
SHOW, JOE CAMMARANO
.
THE DEMOCRATIC VIRTUAL
CONVENTION IS HAPPENING THIS
WEEK.
IF YOU ARE WATCHING NIGHT, YOU
MIGHT HAVE CAUGHT DAY ONE.
HERE IS A PREVIEW OF THE NETWORK
LOOK AT WHAT THE WEEK LOOKS
LIKE.
DEMOCRATS ARE PUTTING THE
FINAL TOUCHES ON PLANS FOR THEIR
CONVENTION.
THINGS WILL LOOK FAR DIFFERENT
FOR THE MOSTLY VIRTUAL EVENT
THIS YEAR.
PARTY LEADERS ARE EXPECTED TO
SPEAK FOR TWO HOURS EACH NIGHT
ACROSS ALL 57 STATES AND
TERRITORIES.
TONIGHT'S FOCUS IS EXPECTED TO
BE ON THE PANDEMIC, STRUGGLING
ECONOMY, AND NATIONAL RECKONING
ON RACE AND POLICING.
SPEAKERS ARE SAID TO INCLUDE
JOHN KASICH, PART OF A BID TO
WIN GOP VOTERS
OVER WHO ARE NOT
WILLING TO VOTE FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
BERNIE SANDERS AND MICHELLE
OBAMA CAP OFF THE FIRST NIGHT.
SANDERS SAYS THE PARTY IS UNITED
IN ITS GOAL.
WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE
CAN TO COME TOGETHER AND BEAT
DONALD TRUMP.
PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER
FROM
MILWAUKEE, NEW YORK, LOS
ANGELES, AND WILMINGTON,
DELAWARE.
WHERE HE AND HIS RUNNING MATE
WILL SPEAK FROM LATER THIS WEEK.
OVER THE WEEKEND, PRESIDENT
TRUMP DID
NOT DISMISS FALSE
CLAIMS THAT HARRIS IS INELIGIBLE
.
IS SHE ELIGIBLE?
I JUST TOLD YOU, I HAVE NOT
GONE INTO IT IN GREAT DETAIL.
IF SHE HAS A PROBLEM, YOU WOULD
HAVE THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE
VETTED.
YOU ACCEPT THE FACT
THAT,
HARRIS IS ELIGIBLE -- THAT
KAMALA HARRIS IS ELIGIBLE TO BE
VICE PRESIDENT?
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE
ARE
GOING TO PURSUE.
HARRIS ANTICIPATES ATTACKS
WILL CONTINUE.
KNOCKDOWN, DRAG OUT.
DAN: WITH NO FURTHER ADO, JOE
CAMMARANO JOINS US.
HE'S BEEN A REGULAR ON THE SHOW
FOR SUCH A LONG TIME, WHEN I SAY
REGULAR, I MEAN ASSET.
WE HAVE BEEN HOOKED UP SINCE
BEFORE COVID.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE PROFESSOR
OF POLITICAL SCIENCE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS WHAT
THE OFFICE LOOKS LIKE WHEN A
RETURNING TO SCHOOL PROFESSOR IS
GETTING READY FOR THE SEMESTER.
RIGHT, MY FRIEND?
IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE,
PURELL, A DISINFECTANT
CONCOCTION.
A PRINTER THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS.
AND THEN ALL THE
PPE AND A
BACKPACK I'M GIVING TO MY
FACULTY.
DAN: BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE
NATIONAL SCENE, WE SHOULD
PROBABLY, PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS,
YOU ARE A PROFESSOR AT
PROVIDENCE COLLEGE.
YOU SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST
THEY CAN.
FATHER SHANLEY HAS SPENT SOME
TIME WITH US, TRYING TO BE
PRACTICAL AND TRANSPARENT IN
THEIR WORRIES.
HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE
SEMESTER?
WHAT HAVE YOUR CONCERNS BEEN?
WE ARE IN A BIND.
WE HAVE TO HAVE STUDENTS BACK.
THAT IS WHAT THE MARKET DEMANDS.
A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE UPSET THAT
THEY ARE DOING ONLINE COURSEWORK
.
THE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE IS
IMPORTANT TO THEM.
WITHOUT THE ENDOWMENT, THEY HAVE
TO BRING THE STUDENTS TO CAMPUS.
THEY ARE DOING AS WELL AS ANY
INSTITUTION CAN DO.
THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE
STUDENTS FROM THE REGION DOING
WELL, BUT WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER
IDENTIFIED AS IN
DIFFERENT STAGES OF CONTAGION.
WE WILL HAVE TO SEE IF STUDENTS
CAN CONTROL THEMSELVES.
DAN: YOU CAN THROW UP
THE
SHIELDS FOR TEACHING, SOCIAL
DISTANCING, AND HOW WOULD YOU
SAY, THE 9-TO-5,
THERE ISN'T
9-TO-5, BUT THE 9-TO-5 CAMPUS
ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT'S
WHAT HAPPENS AT NIGHT AND OVER
THE WEEKENDS.
JOE: AND I DON'T
WANT TO BLAME
STUDENTS.
I REMEMBER BEING 18, WHEN IT WAS
LEGAL TO DRINK.
I WOULD NOT HAVE BEHAVED IN A
WAY THAT IS APPROPRIATE.
I REALLY GET IT.
I UNDERSTAND.
WE WILL JUST HAVE TO SORT OF
HOLD OUR BREATH AND HOPE THAT
THINGS WORK OUT.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING IS A
RISK THESE DAYS.
DAN: NO DOUBT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT
[SIGHS]
AS WE SPEAK,
THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL CONVENTION,", IS
KICKING OFF.
IF YOU ARE WATCHING THE SHOW AT
7:30, IT'S LATER TONIGHT.
WATCHING AT MIDNIGHT, IT ALREADY
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES YOU3
TELL YOU ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT
RIGHT NOW?
JOE:
M THAT -- GU
T IS
THAT THE BEST THING THEY CAN DO
IS TO ALLOW THE CHUM CAMPAIGN TO
CONTINUE WHAT IT HAS BEEN DOING.
THE WAY HE'S BEHAVING, THERE'S
NO WAY HE CAN GET ELECTED.
I KNOW I SAID THAT FOUR YEARS
AGO AND I WAS WRONG.
BUT I TELL YOU, THERE ARE AN
AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE, JOHN KASICH
IS ONE OF THEM, WHO ARE SAYING
NO WAY.
UNLESS TRUMP CHANGES HIS TUNE
AND BEHAVIOR, HARRIS AND BIDEN
DON'T MATTER AS MUCH.
DAN: DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S
WHAT IS GOING TO DO.
WE'VE
BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WONDERING
IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE NOT A
U-TURN, BUT AN OFFRAMP FROM HIM
.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S ALMOST AS IF HE SEEMS TO
WANT -- YOU KNOW, THERE
IS THIS
WHOLE THEORY THAT YOU AND I
TALKED ABOUT AS TO WHETHER HE
THOUGHT HE WOULD BE ELECTED OR
WANTED TO BE ELECTED AND I
WONDER THE SAME THING HERE.
JOE: YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN
READING EVERY BOOK ABOUT WORKING
AROUND HIM, THE MARY TRUMP
MEMOIR.
THE REPEATED THEME IS WHAT HE
WANTS, WHAT HE NEEDS HIS
ATTENTION.
-- IS ATTENTION.
HE'S GOING TO DO BUT GET SOME
ATTENTION AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS
POSITIVE AND AT SOME POINT, THE
CLOCK IS GOING TO RUN OUT.
DAN:
HER THIS WHOLE
THING, THE TEARDOWN OF THE
ELECTION PROCESS THAT HE'S GOING
, IT'S ALL PART OF THAT.
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT
WHEN WE COME BACK?
IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
POSTAL SERVICE SITUATION,
MAIL-IN VOTING, AND ALL OF IT,
DAN: SO, WELCOME BACK TO MY
STATE OF MIND.
CAMMARANO --JOE CAMMARANO IS
WITH US.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE, COVID DOES
THAT.
COVID DOES A LOT OF THINGS.
THE VIRUS, BEFORE WE GET INTO
NITTY-GRITTY, POSTAL SERVICE,
MAIL-IN BALLOTS, THE CONVENTION
ITSELF, THE VIRTUAL NATURE OF
IT, IS THERE AN OVERRIDING
THOUGHT THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT WHAT
THE COVID FACTOR HAS DONE TO OUR
POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT?
JOE: I WOULD SAY THAT THE
POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT CREATED
THE COVID FACTOR I NEVER WOULD
HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD SEE AMERICA
DIVIDED ON WHETHER OR NOT WE
SHOULD PROTECT EACH OTHER FROM A
DISEASE THAT CAN KILL A LOT OF
US.
FOR ME, THE POLITICIZATION OF
THE RESPONSE TO COVID IS ONE OF
THE MOST DEPRESSING THINGS AS AN
AMERICAN, AS WELL AS A SCHOLAR
WHO STUDIES THE COMMONALITY THAT
HAVE LOST PARTISAN DIVIDES,
TRADITIONALLY, AND THAT HAS
VANISHED.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS WE HAVE
BECOME SO ARISE IN THE DEBATE.
NOT NECESSARILY THE REGULAR
PEOPLE WHO RELATE TO EACH OTHER,
BUT THE SYMBOLISM AND SIGNALS OF
WEARING A MASK, FOR EXAMPLE,
HAVE BECOME SO RIDICULOUSLY
CONNECTED.
IT'S THE SINGLE BEST EXPLAINER
OF WHY WE ARE THE ONLY
INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY WHO
HASN'T GOTTEN OUR ACT TOGETHER.
I MEAN, EVEN GREAT BRITAIN, WHO
MADE BIG MISTAKES EARLY ON, FOR
THE SAME REASON, WAS ABLE TO GET
ITS ACT TOGETHER.
IT'S PATHETIC WHEN WE ARE
LOOKING FORWARD TO 800 PEOPLE
PER DAY DYING FRIEND IN ITALY,
ONE PEOPLE OR TWO PEOPLE DIVE
HER DAY AND THEY ARE ONLY TWO OR
SET OF US.
IT'S PATHETIC.
DAN:
OF COURSE, THE PRORATED
NUMBERS OF THE POPULATION NEED
TO BE FACTORED IN THERE, BUT
THERE IS NO ARGUING THAT WE ARE
50 DIFFERENT STATES FIGHTING 50
DIFFERENT BATTLES.
JOE: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
YOU UNDERSTAND.
IF ITALY HAD OUR POPULATION, THE
NUMBER OF DEATHS IT WOULD HAVE
WOULD BE UNDER 50 RIGHT NOW.
DAN: I HEAR YOU.
NO ARGUMENT.
IT'S INCREDIBLE,
THOUGH, THAT
THIS VIRUS COMES INTO WHAT WE
HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED
PRE-COVID.
THE POLARIZED WORLD THAT WE ARE
IN.
I RECENTLY WROTE A COLUMN IN THE
VALLEY BRIEF WHERE I JUST SET --
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S OK TO
JUST SHRUG YOUR SHOULDERS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WIN EVERY
BATTLE.
NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO FIT IN
YOUR IDEOLOGY.
THE WAY THIS HAS HAPPENED TO US
AND HAS BEEN KICKED AROUND AND
MISHANDLED, IT DESERVES ACUTE
ANALYSIS.
BUT THE WAY THAT WE CAME INTO
THIS, STAKING OUT OUR OWN TURF
ON POLITICS
, HAS, TO YOUR POINT,
HAS CAUSED A LACK OF
, YOU KNOW,
WORK WITH SCIENTIFIC CONCEPTS
THAT COULD HAVE HELD THAT HELPED
US ALONG HERE.
-- THAT COULD HAVE HELPED US
ALONG HERE.
JOE: THIS IS A COMPLETE FAILURE
OF LEADERSHIP.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GUY WHO
LIVES IN MY APARTMENT COMPLEX
WHO IS BLUE-COLLAR AND DOESN'T
LIKE TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO.
THIS IS A FUNCTION OF THEM NOT
WANTING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE
PERSON THEY SUPPORT OR THE PARTY
THEY SUPPORT IS CRAZY OR
WRONG.
SO, THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO
BEHAVE THAT WAY BECAUSE THE
LEADERSHIP IN THEIR PARTY HAS
BEEN BEHAVING ABYSMALLY.
WITH SOME NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS,
LIKE MIKE DEWINE, OR LARRY
HOGAN, THE GOVERNORS OF OHIO AND
MARYLAND.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THROUGH
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS STAKED THEIR
CLAIM ON THIS NOT BEING A BIG
DEAL.
IT IS A BIG DEAL.
AND IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM OF THE
PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITHOUT
THE MASKS.
IT'S A PROBLEM OF WHO THEY LOOK
TO FOR LEADERSHIP.
DAN: WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW
THAT ALL TRANSLATES TO THE
POLITICS OF THE DAY.
BY THE WAY, IS THERE SOME, IS
THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SAY
ABOUT HOW COVID AND VIRTUAL
LIFE
HAS CHANGED OUR POLITICS HERE.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT
DIRECT VOTING ACCESS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TOUCH AND
FEEL FOR THE WHOLE THING.
JOE: THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST
INTRIGUING THINGS.
POLITICAL SCIENTISTS ARE LOOKING
AT THAT.
TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE A
CONVENTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE
EVERYBODY IN THE SAME PLACE.
WE ARE KIND OF SEEING THIS NEXT
TRANSITION TO WHAT A CONVENTION
IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
AWAY FROM WHERE IT IS A BIG
MEDIA EVENT WHERE THEY HAVE A
LOT OF FUN.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN TONIGHT.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE EXACTLY
SURE.
IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THE
MESSAGE WILL HAVE TO BE CLEARER,
DEEPER, MORE THOUGHTFUL SO THAT
THEY CAN GET ACROSS THE EMOTIONS
THAT YOU CAN NORMALLY SORT OF
PUMP UP WITH PEOPLE IN THE ROOM
.
I'M ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN
SEEING THIS HAPPEN.
DAN: WHAT ABOUT THE BUMP.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE
CONVENTION BUMP.
THE ADRENALINE, I HAVE ATTENDED
A HANDFUL OF CONVENTIONS AS A
MEMBER OF THE MEDIA.
THE ADRENALINE, THEY CALL IT THE
SUPER BOWL OF POLITICS.
WHETHER IT IS REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRATIC, THE BUMP COMES OUT,
THE MEDIA COMES OUT, IT'S A TIME
WHEN PEOPLE START TO PAY
ATTENTION.
RIGHT?
DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE A
BUMP?
DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE THE
VIEWERSHIP?
DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE ANY
OF THOSE THINGS?
JOE: I HAVE SEEN CONVENTIONS
SINCE 1980 OR SO, MORE LIKE THE
PRO BOWL OF POLITICS.
NOT A SUPER BOWL.
THE SUPER BOWL IS THE ACTUAL
ELECTION.
BECAUSE UP WROBEL IS, YOU'VE GOT
ALL THESE SUPERSTARS WHO GATHER
IN ONE PLACE, THEY RUN UP SCORE,
NO ONE GETS HURT, HOPEFULLY.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY A WAY TO MAKE
SOME MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT CONVENTIONS WERE,
NOT TO MAKE MONEY, BUT GET
ATTENTION.
THERE WERE BUMPS.
AND THERE WERE ARTIFICIAL BUMPS
THAT GO DOWN.
HILLARY CLINTON HAD A HUGE BUMP.
MICHAEL DUKAKIS HAD A HUGE BUMP.
IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GOING TO
PUMMEL GEORGE W. BUSH.
THE BUMPS ARE THERE, BUT ONLY
FOR A WEEK OR SO.
PHENOMENON FREE COVID.
NOT
REPORTING OUT A BUMP IS NO
BIG DEAL.
THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IN THE
PAST, ONE OF THE BIG
OPPORTUNITIES IS TO FRAME THE
ELECTION.
THAT IS WHAT CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO
DO.
ONE SIDE IS TRYING TO FRAME
THE
ELECTION BY SAYING THIS IS THE
ISSUE, THIS IS THE ISSUE, THIS
IS THE ISSUE, THIS IS WHAT YOU
NEED TO FOCUS ON.
THE CONVENTION STILL ALLOWS
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS TO SAY
-- HERE'S WHAT MATTERS WHEN YOU
MAKE YOUR DECISION ABOUT WHO YOU
ARE GOING TO SUPPORT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE FRAMING IS
-- ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MESS IN
THE COUNTRY, THERE'S A LOT OF
CONTROVERSY, THERE'S A LOT OF
DIVISION.
HOW CAN WE REFRAME IT IN A WAY
THAT HELPS OUR SIDE.
I CAN STILL FUNCTION, VIRTUALLY.
DAN: WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL
TALK ABOUT THE PICK OF KAMALA
HARRIS, WHAT IT MEANS, AND IF
WHETHER DONALD TRUMP IS A BAD
GUY.
DAN: BACK FOR A FINAL FEW
MINUTES WITH JOE CAMMARANO.
KAMALA HARRIS, THUMBS UP, THUMBS
DOWN?
JOE: RIGHT
IN THE MIDDLE.
SHE'S THE SAFETY PICK.
IF YOU WANTED
TO GO BOLDER, HE
WOULD HAVE GONE WITH SOMEONE
ELSE.
IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING MORE
COMFORTABLE, HE WOULD HAVE SUSAN
RICE.
HE PICKED A U.S. SENATOR.
A PERSON OF COLOR.
MULTIETHNIC
BACKGROUND WHO HAS A
BACKGROUND AS A STATEWIDE
EXECUTIVE.
SHE IS PROBABLY THE SAFEST PICK.
DAN: I THINK IT IS QUITE
SOMETHING TO IN THIS DAY AND AGE
SAY THAT AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN
CANDIDATE WOULD BE A MODERATE
PICK.
TELLS YOU WHERE WE ARE.
JOE: BEING AN
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
WOMAN DOESN'T MAKE YOU MORE
CONSERVATIVE.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, I DON'T THINK
SHE LOSES ANY BOUTS THAT THE
DEMOCRATS WOULDN'T NORMALLY GAIN
.
AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
APPEAL, GIVEN HER
BACKGROUND.
I THINK THAT HER WORK AS
ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CALIFORNIA
MIGHT WORK TO THE ADVANTAGE OF
MODERATES WHO MIGHT NOT BE
INCLINED TO VOTE FOR HER BUT
THEY WOULD SAY -- HEY, SHE'S
TOUGH ON CRIME.
THE PEOPLE OUT LEFT DIDN'T LIKE
HER, SO SHE MUST BE BETTER THAN
BERNIE SANDERS.
DAN:
DID THEY MAKE A MISTAKE IN
MAKING THIS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP?
DOES THE CONSTANT DRUMBEAT
REINFORCED SOMETHING OR DOES IT
TURN AMERICA TO THINK -- YOU
DON'T HAVE AN IDEA.
THE DEVIL WE KNOW IS THAT BETTER
THAN THE ONE WE DON'T JOE:.
THERE ARE TWO DYNAMICS.
ONE, BUT YOU CONSCIOUSLY SAY,
AND THE OTHER, WHAT YOU
CONSCIOUSLY DO THAT OTHER PEOPLE
DON'T NECESSARILY NOTICE.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM ON THE
SECOND ROUTE TO FOCUS ON TRUMP.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, WITH VOTERS
AND PEOPLE WHO AREN'T REAL
THEM SOME KIND OF POSITIVEGIV
MESSAGE.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE IS A
LOT
WHERE THEY MIGHT SAY, IT'S NOT
PANDEMIC.AULT WE HAVE TH
MAYBE HE DIDN'T RESPOND THE WAY
WE WOULD HAVE LIKED, BUT IT'S
NOT HIS FAULT, THE ECONOMY WAS
DOING WELL.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POSITIVE
MESSAGE.
THEY HAVE A 90 PAGE PLATFORM
WITH THE LARGEST SECTION ON
REBUILDING THE ECONOMY.
YOU PRESENT THAT AS PART OF THE
FRAME, EVEN AS YOU LET TRUMP
SORT OF SELF-DESTRUCT.
DAN: WHAT DO YOU
THINK ABOUT THE
MAIL-IN BALLOT CONTROVERSY THAT
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW?
IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR
PEOPLE TO FEEL SAFE SENDING A
MAIL BALLOT IN DURING THE VIRUS,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS
TACTICALLY -- WHAT COULD BE A
PRACTICAL RESPONSE TO THIS
DILEMMA?
I'M MISSING THIS.
JOE:
STATES HAVING THEIR OWN
DROP BOXES, LIKE RHODE ISLAND
HAS DONE.
DROP BOXES WHERE PEOPLE CAN PUT
IT IN THE BOX RATHER THAN THE
MALE.
I THINK STATES WITH DEMOCRATS
WANT TO HAVE MORE UNIVERSAL
VOTING, IF THEY CAN FIGURE OUT
HOW TO DO IT.
THE REALITY IS PRESIDENT TRUMP
SEES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS
HIS OWN PERSONAL SERVICE TO
SERVE HIS INTERESTS, WHICH IS TO
WIN, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT AS A
GIVEN.
THE U.S. COASTAL SERVICE, YOU
KNOW, IT'S NOT BROKEN,
IT HASN'T
BEEN BROKEN.
IT ISN'T LOSING
MONEY, NOT AS
MUCH AS EVERYONE SAYS, AND IT
MOSTLY LOSES MONEY BECAUSE IT
SHIPS TO PARTS OF THE COUNTRY
THAT VOTE FOR TRUMP.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A SMART MOVE
ON HIS PART, BUT HE PLAYS
CHECKERS.
CHECKERS MEANING I'M GOING TO
TAKE THESE OUT AND THAT'S IT.
TOMORROW HE MIGHT HIT IT AND
CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE.
WHATEVER HE THINKS HE CAN DO,
HE'LL DO.
AND THEN HE WILL PULL BACK.
THAT'S TRUMP.
DAN: STILL MONTHS AWAY FROM THE
ELECTION, BUT A BOLD STATEMENT
HERE, NO PREDICTIONS.
YOU ARE STICKING TO IT.
AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK THERE
IS A PREDICTION IN THIS MIX --
NOT THAT THE PREDICTION IS THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING, BUT WHEN
DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT THE NINE
SPREAD THAT EITAN HAS IS ENOUGH
TO CARRY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE?
I WOULD SAY WATCH MICHIGAN,
WISCONSIN, AND IN SYLVANIA.
IF HE IS BEHIND THERE -- IT ALSO
LOOK AT NORTH CAROLINA AND
GEORGIA.
IF HE IS BEHIND AND THE SENATE
CANDIDATE IN GEORGIA IS BEHIND,
THAT'S A HARBINGER.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO PROGNOSTICATE
, IN PART, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
HOW IT'S GOING TO UNFOLD.
WE MAY NOT KNOW THE WINNER UNTIL
A WEEK LATER.
THAT'S DANGEROUS TURF WE HAVEN'T
HAD SINCE AFTER THE CIVIL WAR.
DAN: WE WILL NOT KEEP JOE AS A
STRANGER.
TIDY UP THAT OFFICE AND GET TO
WORK, JOE.
[LAUGHTER]
JOE: IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT BAD.
DAN: MY THANKS TO PROFESSOR JOE
CAMMARANO, HE WILL BE AND OFTEN
VISITOR OVER THE HEAT OF THE
POLITICAL SEASON, WHICH STARTS
WITH THE CONVENTION, VIRTUAL OR
NOT.
DEMOCRATS THIS WEEK, REPUBLICANS
SOON THEREAFTER.
LET THE 2020 POLITICAL SEASON,
CRAZY AS I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO
BE, BEGIN.
THANKS FOR TUNING IN.
TALK TO YOU TOMORRE
TOMORROW NIGHT.
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