>> Bret: WITH LABOR DAY
WEEKEND COMES THE START OF THE
FINAL COUNTDOWN TO ELECTION DAY.
JOINING US NOW, SYMONE SANDERS,
SENIOR ADVISOR FOR THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN.
SYMONE, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> Symone: THANKS FOR HAVING
ME, BRET.
>> Bret: THE TREASURY
SECRETARY JUST ON POINTS OF
OPTIMISTIC VIEW OF WHERE THE
ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE ELECTION
DAY.
IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR YOUR
CAMPAIGN?
>> Symone: I DID HEAR THE
TREASURY SECRETARY JUST A MOMENT
AGO AND I THINK WE -- FOLKS HAVE
TO ASK THEMSELVES AT HOME, IS
THIS RECOVER WORKING FOR YOU?
ECONOMISTS ARE STARTING TO CALL
THIS RECOVERY AK SHAPED
RECOVERY, MEAN IT IS GOING WELL
AND UP FOR IT FOLKS AT THE TOP
BUT FOLKS WHO ARE MIDDLE-CLASS
OR BELOW, IT’S GOING DOWN.
SO THE QUESTION IT REALLY IS, IS
THIS WORKING FOR WORKING
FAMILIES?
AND THE ANSWER IS NO.
ONE IN SIX SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE
SHUTTERED THEIR DOORS.
IF YOU WORK MORE -- MORE THAN
24 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NOTED
THAT THEY ARE TELEWORKING.
IF YOU HAVE A JOB THAT HAS YOU
WORKING ON A LAPTOP AND YOU ARE
WORKING AT A DESK, YOU ARE LESS
AT RISK FOR COVID, I AM THINKING
OF JOE BIDEN’S THINKING BUT THE
FOLKS WHO ARE TRUCK DRIVERS INTO
WORK IS AS CASHIERS, THOSE ARE
FOLKS THAT ARE AT HIGHER RISK,
SHORTENED HOURS, BUT ALSO HIGHER
RISK OF BEING EXPOSED TO COVID
SO I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO THINK
ABOUT THE PAIN ON THE WORKING
FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
EXPERIENCING.
>> Bret: THE PROSPECTS FOR A
VACCINE ELECTION DAY.
I ASKED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF
THAT, DR. ANTHONY FAUCI SAID
THIS.
>> I THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME
CONFIDENCE AND HAVE FAITH IN
WHAT THE FDA IS SAYING.
THEY ARE SAYING VERY EXPLICITLY
THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE MAKING
THE DECISION BASED ON THE
SCIENTIFIC DATA, AND WE HOPE
THAT THAT’S GOING TO BE THE
CASE.
>> Bret: IS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN
SAYING ESSENTIALLY IF A VACCINE
COMES OUT BEFORE ELECTION DAY,
IT SHOULDN’T BE TRUSTED OR THAT
IT’S PURE POLITICS?
A COUPLE OF TIMES THE FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT HAS WEIGHED IN ON
THAT BURIED >> Symone: I THINK
WE ARE SAYING IS FIRST AND
FOREMOST WE ALL WANT TO VACCINE.
BUT WE WANT THAT VACCINE TO BE
SAFE AND WHEN A VACCINE IS
EVENTUALLY AVAILABLE, WE WANT IT
TO BE EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED, AND
THE QUESTION REALLY IS, HOW CAN
AMERICANS AND FOLKS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY TRUST THE PRESIDENT TO
BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY AND
EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTE A VACCINE
WHEN HE’S HAD ISSUES GETTING
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO
FRONT-LINE WORKERS ALL ACROSS
THIS COUNTRY.
SO WE ALL WANT TO VACCINE, BRET,
BUT WE WANTED TO BE SAFE AND WE
WANT TO GET FOLKS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY IN EVERY COMMUNITY.
>> Bret: IF IT COMES OUT THE
LAST WEEK IN OCTOBER AND THE FDA
GIVES AT THE GO-AHEAD, YOU’RE
OKAY WITH THAT?
>> Symone: BRET, AGAIN, WE ALL
WANT TO VACCINE.
THE QUESTION IS HOW WILL IT BE
DISTRIBUTED?
WILL WORKING FAMILIES ACROSS
THIS COUNTRY -- I JUST TALKED
ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO WORK AS
CASHIERS, WORKING CHECK CASHING
COUNTERS AND WORK IN GROCERY
STORES AND FOLKS WHO ARE TRUCK
DRIVERS, WILL THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO GET THIS VACCINE?
WE KNOW THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN
AND LATINO FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY
ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED
BY COVID-19.
WILL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE
THE VACCINE?
THAT IS THE QUESTION, AND IF WE
LOOK AT JUST FRANKLY HOW THIS
WHITE HOUSE AND HOW THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS HANDLED THE
MITIGATION OR THE LACK THEREOF
OF COVID-19, HAS HANDLED
DISTURBING PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT TO FOLKS ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN REAL
ISSUES.
SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT IF A
VACCINE IS AVAILABLE, THAT IT IS
SAFE, BUT IT’S A QUESTION OF CAN
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
DISTRIBUTED EQUITABLY.
>> Bret: THEY SAY THEY HAVE A
PLAN FOR THAT BURIED WILL
JOE BIDEN GET THE VACCINE IF
IT’S AVAILABLE?
>> Symone: LOOK, BRET, AS I
JUST NOTED, FIRST AND
FOREMOST -- I THINK FOLKS HAVE
ASKED, WE’VE HAD CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT TESTING AND AS FOLKS KNOW
NOW, BY SPARTANS AND IN BIDEN AT
SENATOR HARRIS ARE BEING
REGULARLY TESTED, AS OUR
CAMPAIGN STAFF BUT FIRST AND
FOREMOST A TOP OF MIND FOR
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN ARE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE GETTING WHAT
THEY NEED.
YOU KNOW, THE WHITE HOUSE HAS --
FOLKS ARE TESTED VERY REGULARLY
COMING IN AND OUT OF THE
WHITE HOUSE, ANYONE WHO’S AROUND
THE PRESIDENT, BUT THAT TESTING,
THAT LEVEL OF TESTING IS NOT
AVAILABLE TO FOLKS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY SO IF A VACCINE WERE TO
BECOME AVAILABLE, AGAIN, IT’S
ABOUT WILL WORKING FAMILIES
BENEFIT, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO
RECEIVE THE VACCINE?
>> Bret: MANY JOURNALISTS
DETECTED A SHIFT IN THE FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT ANSWER ABOUT
SHUTTING DOWN THE ECONOMY.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> GET OFF TWITTER.
AND START TALKING TO THE
CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS IN BOTH
PARTIES, INVITE THEM TO THE
OVAL OFFICE.
THE OVAL OFFICE, NEGOTIATE A
DEAL.
A DEAL FOR SOMEBODY OTHER THAN
YOURSELF.
>> SO WE’VE DECIDED TO STAY SHUT
IT DOWN.
>> I WOULD SHUT IT DOWN.
I WOULD LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS
BURIED THERE IS GOING TO BE NO
NEED IN MY VIEW TO BE ABLE TO
SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE ECONOMY.
I GOT ASKED A QUESTION, IF I WAS
ASKED TO SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, I
TOOK THAT AS A GENERIC QUESTION,
AM I GOING TO FOLLOW THE SIGNS.
>> Bret: SO WOULD HE SHUT IT
DOWN ARE NOT?
>> Symone: I THINK THE VICE
PRESENT WAS VERY CLEAR IN THAT
LAST CLIP, HE NOTED THAT HE WAS
ASKED BY DAVID, HE TOOK IT VERY
GENERIC, THAT IF IT WAS
RECOMMENDED BY THE SCIENTISTS
THAT THAT IS WHAT NEEDED TO
HAPPEN TO KEEP AMERICANS SAFE,
WOULD HE DO IT, AND THE ANSWER
WAS YES, THE REALITY IS THIS,
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTS FOLKS
TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK, JUST
LIKE I NOTED WE WANT FOLKS TO BE
ABLE TO GET THAT VACCINE, WE
WANT WORKING FAMILIES TOO -- WE
WANT FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO SEND
THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL SAFELY
AND CURRENTLY IN DONALD TRUMP’S
AMERICA THAT’S NOT HAPPENING, SO
I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT
CLIP, WHAT YOU HEARD HIS
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN URGING THE
PRESIDENT TO CALL IN THE
DEMOCRATIC LEADERS IN THE
UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND
SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE, BRING
THEM TO THE WHITE HOUSE, LET’S
NEGOTIATE A DEAL AND GET THIS
DONE.
>> Bret: IT GOES THE OTHER
WAY, SYMONE, TOO.
HE IS NOW THE DE FACTO HEAD OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WHY DOESN’T JOE BIDEN CALLED
NANCY PELOSI AND SAY LET’S GET A
DEAL DONE?
>> Symone: I DO BELIEVE THAT
SPEAKER PELOSI PASSED A STIMULUS
BILL IN THE HOUSE MORE THAN 115
DAYS AGO.
>> Bret: IS A BIG DIFFERENCE,
A GAP BETWEEN WHAT THEY’RE
TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE
NEGOTIATIONS BURIED >> Symone:
RIGHT, BRET, I DON’T THINK I’VE
READ ANYWHERE WERE
SPEAKER PELOSI OR LEADER SCHUMER
HAVE NOTED THAT THEY’RE
UNWILLING TO WORK WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
I THINK EVEN YOU HAVE NOTED THAT
THE PRESIDENT HAS TO COME TO THE
TABLE AND NEGOTIATE, SO WHAT
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN’S URGING
AND I THINK WITH THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WANT IS A DEAL.
DONALD TRUMP TALKS ABOUT BEING
THIS BUSINESS LATER THAT CAN CUT
GREAT DEALS.
THEY COULD DEAL WITH CONGRESS,
COME ON, DO YOUR JOB, THIS IS
PART OF THE JOB.
>> Bret: LET’S TALK ABOUT THE
PROTESTS IN THE VIOLENCE AROUND
THE COUNTRY OFTEN TURNING INTO
RIOTING AND LOOTING, SIGNIFICANT
VIOLENCE STEMMING FROM IT.
THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS
CONDEMNED THAT VIOLENCE AND
LOOTING AND VIOLENCE, SPOKE OUT
ABOUT IT BUT HE HAS YET TO
CONDEMN ANTIFA, A GROUP THAT IS
BEHIND A LOT OF THE VIOLENCE
SPECIFICALLY.
WHY?
>> Symone: BRET, THE
VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VERY
CLEAR, HE CONDEMNS ALL FORMS OF
VIOLENCE AND FRANKLY WHAT YOU
HEARD HIM SAY IN THE SPEECH THAT
HE GAVE ON MONDAY OF LAST WEEK
WAS IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT
POLITICAL PARTY YOU BELONG TO.
IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOUR
POLITICAL BELIEFS ARE.
VIOLENCE IS WRONG.
IN THIS MOMENT HE IS CALLING FOR
CALM AND WE HAVE ALSO NOTED
THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, BRET, THAT
HE ASKED THE PRESIDENT TO JOIN
HIM IN CONDEMNING VIOLENCE,
REGARDLESS OF WHO IS CAUSING IT.
JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, I
DO BELIEVE IT’S DONALD TRUMP
THAT HAS NOT BURIED >> Bret:
TO THE DOZEN PLUS BIDEN CAMPAIGN
STAFFERS WHO DONATED TO THE
MINNESOTA FREEDOM FUND HAVE ANY
REGRETS ABOUT THAT NOW THAT AT
LEAST ONE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN
BAILED OUT AS BEEN
REARRESTED?
>> IT HAS NOT BEEN OUR CAMPAIGN
POSITION OF BAILING ANYONE OUT.
SO I’M SURE ABOUT SPECIFICALLY
WHAT YOU’RE SPEAKING TO --
>> Bret: KAMALA HARRIS TWEETED
ABOUT IT, IF YOU’RE ABLE TO CHIP
INTO THE MINNESOTA FREEDOM FUND
TO HELP POST BAIL FOR THOSE
PROTESTING ON THE GROUND IN
MINNESOTA, PLEASE DO BURIED
>> Symone: YOU ASK A GOOD
QUESTION.
DO WE CONDEMN THE VIOLENCE AND
THE ANSWER IS YES.
PROTESTING, WE HAVE TO MAKE A
CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN
PROTESTING AND VIOLENCE.
TO BE CLEAR, VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN HAS SAID, BURNING
COMMUNITIES, LOOTING COMMUNITIES
IS NOT PROTESTING, THAT’S
VIOLENCE.
AND WE CONDEMN THAT IN ALL FORMS
FORMS.
BUT PROTESTING PEACEFULLY AS
NECESSARY, IT’S AMERICAN AND
FOLKS SHOULD BE RAISING THEIR
VOICES IN THIS MOMENT.
>> Bret: WHY DO YOU THINK ALL
THE POLICE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
ENDORSED PRESIDENT TRUMP?
>> Symone: I’M UNSURE.
I’M NOT A NEGOTIATIONS, IF YOU
WILL, INSIDE THESE VARIOUS
POLICE ORGANIZATIONS BUT WHAT I
CAN TELL YOU IS MORE THAN A 132
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND
HIGH-RANKING POSITIONS, FORMER
FOLKS, ENDORSED VICE PRESENT
BIDEN ON FRIDAY AND I CAN ALSO
TELL YOU THIS, THAT WHEN YOU ASK
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LOOKING AT
THESE POLLS, VOODOO VOTERS TRUST
TO KEEP THEM SAFE IN THIS
COUNTRY, OVERWHELMINGLY THEY SAY
JOE BIDEN.
I THINK THIS "LAW & ORDER"
CAMPAIGN, IF YOU WILL THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS CAMPAIGN
ARE TRYING TO GIN UP AND RUN, I
DON’T THINK IT’S WORKING,
BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU
SAFE IN DONALD TRUMP’S AMERICA,
ARE YOU SAFE FROM COVID, ARE YOU
SAFE IN THE INCITEMENT OF
VIOLENCE, IS IT SAFE TO SEND
YOUR TOLD HIM TO SCHOOL AND
NONEQUIVALENT OF THE ANSWER IS
NO.
>> Bret: HERE IS NEW YORK
GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO.
>> CHANGED HIS RESIDENCE TO GO
TO FLORIDA, WHY?
HE CAN’T COME BACK TO NEW YORK
BURIED HE CAN’T.
HE’S GOING TO WALK DOWN THE
STREET IN NEW YORK?
FORGET BODYGUARDS, HE BETTER
HAVE AN ARMY.
IF HE THINKS IS
GOING TO WALKED ON THE STREET IN
NEW YORK.
>> Bret: TALKING ABOUT
SPEAKING OUT AGAINST VIOLENCE.
WAS NOT APPROPRIATE ARE HELPFUL
FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN?
>> Symone: WELL, BRET, DUFFIN
OR TO GOVERNOR CUOMO DOESN’T
WORK FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT CONTEXT HE WAS
SPEAKING --
>> Bret: ABOUT DONALD TRUMP
BURIED >> Symone: I CAN TELL
YOU WHAT JOE BIDEN AND
KAMALA HARRIS BELIEVE, THEY
BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD LIVE IN A
COUNTRY WITH A PRESIDENT DOES
NOT INCITE VIOLENCE OR FAN
THE FLAMES OF HATE IN THIS
COUNTRY, POUR GASOLINE ON TENSE
SITUATIONS.
THEY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED
LEADERSHIP WAS READY TO STAND UP
FOR ALL OF THE FOLKS, NOT JUST
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
AND THAT IS THE KIND OF LEADER
THAT JOE BIDEN WILL BE, A
PRESIDENT ALL AMERICANS.
>> Bret: SO THEY WOULD CONDEMN
THAT LANGUAGE FROM
GOVERNOR CUOMO?
>> Symone: I DON’T KNOW WHAT
CONTEXT -- I DON’T SPEAK FOR
GOVERNOR CUOMO.
I SPEAK FOR JOE BIDEN AND
SENATOR HARRIS AND WHAT I CAN
