THAT'S AHEAD.
TOP STORY THIS HALF HOUR,
CONFLICT WITH IRAN, IRANIAN
OFFICIALS SAY THE COUNTRY HAS
BREACHED ITS LIMIT ON ENRICHED
URANIUM VIOLATING CONDITIONS OF
THE 2015 IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL.
THIS AFTER THE U.S. IMPOSED NEW
SANCTIONS AFTER IRAN SHOT DOWN
AN UNMANNED U.S. DRONE LAST
MONTH, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAT DOWN
WITH FOX NEWS CHANNEL TUCKER
CARLSON AND SPOKE ABOUT THE
CONFLICT WITH IRAN.
>> I'VE BUILT UP A LOT OF GREAT
CAPITAL AND IF SOMETHING SHOULD
HAPPEN, WE ARE IN A POSITION TO
DO FAR WORSE BY NOT DOING IT,
BUT HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO
DO ANYTHING BUT YOU CAN'T LET
IRAN HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON AND
YOU CAN'T LET CERTAIN OTHER
COUNTRIES HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS,
TOO DEVASTATING, SO THEY'RE
HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTY IN
THEIR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW AND
HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT THEY'LL
COME BACK AND THEY'LL SAY WE
HAVE TO MAKE A DEAL, SO WE WILL
SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
DAGEN: JOINING ME NOW RETIRED
FOUR-STAR GENERAL CHAIRMAN OF
INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF WAR
AND FOX NEWS SENIOR STRATEGIC
ANALYSIS GENERAL JACK KEANE,
GENERAL, ALWAYS PLEASURE TO SEE
YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
DAGEN: WALL STREET JOURNAL
EDITORIAL PAYMENT CALLS IT LOUD
ANNOUNCEMENT OF A NUCLEAR
BREAKOUT IS INTENDED TO SCARE
THE WORLD INTO PRESIDENT TRUMP
TO BACK OFF THE SANCTION'S
PRESSURE, INSTEAD EUROPE SHOULD
BE PUSHING WITH US ON SANCTIONS
AGAINST IRAN, WHAT HAPPENS HERE?
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE
IRANIANS ARE UP TO, DAGEN, THEY
CLEARLY WANT THE EUROPEANS IN
PARTICULAR TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC
RELIEF FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE
IN A DESPERATE SITUATION GIVEN
THE COMPREHENSIVE NATURE OF THE
SANCTIONS AND THE TOLL IT'S
TAKEN ON THEIR ECONOMY WHICH HAS
CRIPPLED IT, CLEARLY IRANIANS
AND PROVOCATION THAT IS THEY'VE
DONE RECENTLY ARE ALL ABOUT THE
SAME THING, TO PUT PRESSURE ON
THE UNITED STATES BUT FRANKLY
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT GOING
TO GIVE INTO THAT AND I THINK
THE PRESIDENT HAS DEMONSTRATED
TO THE EUROPEANS AND TO OUR
ALLIES THAT HE'S WILLING TO
RESTRAIN THE USE OF MILITARY
FORCE EVEN WHEN IRANIANS ARE
USING IT AS THEY DID IN
SABOTAGING THE TANKERS AND ALSO
SHOOTING DOWN AMERICAN DRONE.
WE HAVE YET TO SHOOT BACK AT
THEM, AND I THINK HERE IS TIME
FOR THE EUROPEANS TO STEP UP AND
JOIN THE ADMINISTRATION IN
IMPOSING SANCTIONS AND ALSO
POLITICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY
ISOLATING IRAN.
DAGEN: WELL, THE FACT THAT IRAN
SO QUICKLY IS NOW ENRICHING
URANIUM ABOVE THE 300 -- THE
AMOUNT, THE 300-KILOGRAMS OF
URANIUM AND THE FACT THAT THE
DEAL BASICALLY JUST HANDED MONEY
TO IRAN THAT WAS THEN USED TO
FINANCE ESSENTIALLY TERRORISM
THROUGHOUT THE REGION, WHETHER
IT WAS HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH AND THE
REBELS IN YEMEN, AND THEN ALSO
IT DID NOTHING ABOUT THE -- AS
THE JOURNAL POINTS OUT, TERROR
PROMOTION BUT ALSO BALLISTIC
MISSILE PROGRAM, SO THIS IS MORE
EVIDENCE THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
RIGHT TO PULL OUT OF THE DEAL?
>> YEAH, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, THE DEAL WAS DESIGNED TO
TEMPORARILY DELAY IRAN GETTING A
NUCLEAR WEAPON AND AT THE END OF
IT, IT GAVE THEM UNLIMITED
RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF
CENTRIFUGES AND THE LIKE,
FLUSHED WITH $130 BILLION OF
MONEY WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE
USING IT DIRECT AND FUND THE
SYRIA AND YEMEN CIVIL WARS,
MISSILES TO HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH
AND OBVIOUSLY ALL THE OTHER
WORLDWIDE TERRORISM ACTIVITIES
THAT THEY HAVE.
ONE MORE THING ABOUT WHAT THE
IRANIANS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, I
DON'T THINK WE NEED TO OVERREACT
TO THIS, THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE
THE THRESHOLD CLEARLY BUT NOT
SIGNIFICANTLY, IT'S DESIGNED TO
INTIMIDATE THE EUROPEANS THAT
THIS COULD GET WORSE, I THINK
WHAT WE NEED TO DO SEND CLEAR
MESSAGE TO IRAN ONCE AGAIN, WE
WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU GAIN
WEAPON'S GRADE CAPABILITY IN
TERMS OF URANIUM AND ENRICHMENT,
THAT WOULD BECOME A RED LINE FOR
ISRAEL TO BE SURE AND ONE FOR US
AS WELL.
NONETHELESS, WE DON'T NEED TO
OVERREACT EITHER, A WARNING
SHOULD SUFFICE AND HOPEFULLY
MOTIVATE EUROPEANS THE PATH THAT
THEY ARE ON.
DAGEN: ARE MORE SANCTIONS
POSSIBLE?
WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO PUT EVEN
GREATER ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON
IRAN, AGAIN, GETTING RID OF THE
WAIVERS ON BUYING OIL FROM IRAN
FOR THE OTHER NATIONS, THAT WAS
A CRITICAL STOP AT RATCHETING UP
THE PRESSURE?
>> THE PRESSURE IS SIGNIFICANT
RIGHT NOW, TO GET TO FINE
DETAILS, YOU HAVE TO BE A
STAFFER IN THE TREASURY
DEPARTMENT LOOKING CLOSELY AT
WHAT MANUFACTURING GOODS HAVE
NOT BEEN SANCTIONED, ET CETERA,
BUT I THINK THE MAXIMUM PRESSURE
CAMPAIGN THIS ADMINISTRATION IS
APPLYING CERTAINLY HAS TAKEN
TOLL, MOVING IRAN IN A DIRECTION
INTO A PLACE IT'S NEVER BEEN
BEFORE.
DAGEN: TURNING TO NORTH KOREA,
GENERAL, PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS
PAST WEEKEND BECAME FIRST
SITTING U.S. PRESIDENT TO CROSS
DEMILITARIZED ZONE IN NORTH
KOREA, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE
PRESIDENT TAKING THIS MEETING,
BUT WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION
WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE HANOI
SUMMIT, THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD
GET SANCTIONS LIFTED, THAT WAS
THEIR GOAL, DISMISSED
NEGOTIATING TEAM, TRAGICALLY HE
ALSO REPORTEDLY KILLED THE CHIEF
NEGOTIATOR, WHERE ARE WE NOW?
EVERYTHING IS STALLED AFTER
HANOI, NORTH KOREANS WOULD NOT
NEGOTIATE WITH US BECAUSE THEY
WERE HUMILIATED BY THE TRUMP
TEAM WALKING OUT ON THEM.
THE STAFF COULDN'T DO IT,
SECRETARY POMPEO COULDN'T DO IT,
SO I THINK WHAT YOU SAW THERE,
THE SYMBOLISM WAS ALL ABOUT
OKAY, I WILL DO IT, I WILL SEE
IF I CAN GET KIM JONG UN BACK TO
NEGOTIATING TABLE, THAT WORKED,
AT LEAST THE COMMITMENT IS TO
WORKING-LEVEL STRAF GROUPS TO
GET TOGETHER.
I THINK FROM THE UNITED STATES
PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE
FROM THE NORTH KOREANS IS
SOMETHING TRULY TANGIBLE IN
TERMS OF A STEP TOWARDS
DISARMAMENT, NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND
BALLISTIC MISSILES, SOMETHING
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED TO DATE
AND I THINK TRUST IS SOMETHING
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE
NORTH KOREANS.
I BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION
RECOGNIZES THAT AND I ALSO
BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE CHANGING
HERE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE WANTED
-- WE WANTED THEM TO GIVE US
EVERYTHING AND WE WOULD PROVIDE
SANCTION RELIEF, I THINK THE
ADMINISTRATION IS IN A PLACE
WHERE IT'LL BE A STEP BY STEP
PROCESS, THEY WILL GIVE US
SOMETHING AND WE WILL HAVE TO
PROVIDE SOMETHING TO THEM IN
RETURN FOR THAT AND MOVE
TOGETHER HOPEFULLY TOWARDS
DENUCLEARIZATION WHICH IS A LONG
WAY OFF IN MY JUDGMENT, WHETHER
WE WILL EVER GET THERE OR NOT
BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE TO TRY.
DAGEN: SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO
SAID WE CAN'T EVEN -- NORTH
KOREA AND THE UNITED STATES
DON'T EVEN AGREE ON WHAT
DENUCLEARIZATION IS, THAT
THEY'RE NOT AT STEP 1 BUT WE
STILL DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON
THE DEFINITION OF THAT.
I WANT TO TURN TO THE FOURTH OF
JULY CELEBRATION ON THE NATIONAL
MALL, GENERAL, PRESIDENT TRUMP
OFFERING A PREVIEW OF THE
CELEBRATION IN DC YESTERDAY,
JUST TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WE WILL HAVE A GREAT FOURTH
OF JULY IN DC, I HOPE A LOT OF
PEOPLE COME UP, IT'S ABOUT
SALUTE TO AMERICA AND I'M GOING
TO BE HERE AND I WILL SAY A FEW
WORDS AND WE WILL HAVE PLANES
GOING OVERHEAD.
THE BEST FIGHTER JETS IN THE
WORLD, OTHER PLANES TOO AND WE
WILL HAVE SOME TANKS STATIONED
OUTSIDE, PRETTY CAREFUL WITH THE
TANKS BECAUSE THE ROADS HAVE
TENDENCY NOT TO LIKE HEAVY
TANKS, WE HAVE SOME INCREDIBLE
EQUIPMENT, MILITARY EQUIPMENT,
BRAND NEW AND WE ARE PROUD OF
IT.
DAGEN: USE OF MILITARY TANKS,
THEY'LL BE STAGS AIR SPARKING
CRITICISM FROM LAWMAKERS, THE
COST IS TOO HIGH FOR THE PARKS
SERVICE TO HANDLE.
THE TANKS COULD POSE DANGER TO
MONUMENTS AND ROADS, WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF THE CELEBRATION?
>> YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT
WANTS TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTHDAY
OF THE UNITED STATES AND
CERTAINLY HE'S ENTITLED TO DO
THAT, HE WANTS TO ADD A LITTLE
BIT MORE TO THE CELEBRATION OF
WHAT TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN HERE
IN WASHINGTON, D.C., IT'S
SOMETHING THAT IS CELEBRATED IN
MOST TOWNS ACROSS AMERICA AND
THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO CELEBRATE
IT IN CAPITAL TOWN OF AMERICA.
MY HATS OFF TO HIM FOR DOING IT.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON MILITARY
BASES ALL OF MY LIFE AND WE
NORMALLY AROUND HOLIDAYS LIKE
THIS AND VETERANS DAY WE LET THE
PEOPLE COME IN AND TOUCH ALL OF
OUR EQUIPMENT, WE PUT IT ON
DISPLAY, LET THEM TALK TO OUR
SOLDIERS, LET THEM TOUCH AND
FEEL THE THINGS THAT THEY HEAR
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND IT
ALL OF THEIR LIVES AND, YEAH, I
THINK IT'S A POSITIVE THING AND
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE RINGING
OUR HANDS ABOUT CELEBRATING
AMERICA, MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME
TO BE CRITICIZING SOMETHING LIKE
THIS.
DAGEN: THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE IF
IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S IDEA,
BASICALLY -- I CALL IT, THE
REHEARSED SNEERS THAT THEY
PRACTICE IN THEIR BATHROOM,
GENERAL, IT'S WHAT WE'VE BECOME.
>> MAYBE SO UNFORTUNATELY BUT
ANYWAY, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
AROUND THIS TOWN WILL HAVE A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND
ENJOY AMERICA AND SEE SOME
