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>> Adrienne: GOOD EVENING, I'M 
ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.
TONIGHT, NEW NUMBERS SHOW WHERE 
RACE AND COVID-19 COLLIDE.
>> IT ALLOWS FOR US TO SAY THIS 
IS NOT ANECDOTAL.
THIS IS REAL.
>> Adrienne: ACTIVISTS WANT THE 
DATA, BUT QUEBEC HASN'T 
COLLECTED IT.
>> Andrew: I'M ANDREW CHANG.
ALSO TONIGHT, B.C.'S BRUTAL 
SPIKE IN OVERDOSE DEATH.
>> I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW 
DIFFICULT THIS NEWS HAS BEEN TO 
HEAR.
>> Andrew: HOW THE PANDEMIC. 
PLAYED A PART.
>>> AT THIS STAGE, DO YOU THINK 
A SECOND WAVE IS INEVITABLE?
>> Adrienne: ROSIE GETS THE GOOD
FROM DR. ANTHONY FAUCI.
>>> AND REFLECTIONS FROM A 
FORMER HOCKEY PLAYER. 
>> I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THIS IS 
THAT MOMENT IN TIME FOR CHANGE.
>> Adrienne: NEARLY HALF A 
CENTURY AFTER A DEFINING MOMENT.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>>> FOR WEEKS CANADIANS HAVE 
BEEN GRIPPED BY TWO HUGE 
CONCERNS, COVID-19 AND RACE.
WE ARE BEGINNING TONIGHT WHERE 
THE TWO MEET, IN MONTREAL.
>> Andrew: WE'VE REPORTED FOR 
QUITE SOME TIME NOW THAT PARTS 
OF THE CITY'S LARGE BLACK 
POPULATION HAVE TAKEN THE BRUNT 
OF THE DISEASE.
WELL, TONIGHT WE HAVE NUMBERS TO
BACK IT UP.
WE TRIED GETTING RACE-BASED DATA
FROM HEALTH AUTHORITIES, BUT 
THERE ISN'T ANY, SO CBC TOOK IT 
ON.
WE COMPARED THE AREAS OF 
CONFIRMED COVID CASES WITH 
DETAILS ABOUT WHO LIVES THERE.
ALISON NORTHCOTT TAKES US 
THROUGH THE PICTURE THAT 
EMERGED.
>> IT IS NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL AT 
ALL. 
>> Reporter: TIFFANY CALLENDER 
SAYS SHE KNEW HER NEIGHBOURHOOD 
WOULD BE VULNERABLE TO COVID-19 
EVEN BEFORE THE OUTBREAK TOOK 
HOLD.
>> THERE ARE CLEAR DISPARITIES 
IN TERMS OF HEALTH, HOUSING, 
ECONOMICS.
SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE IMPACT OF 
COVID COME IN TO PLAY, YOU KNOW 
THAT THAT'S GOING TO MULTIPLY 
THOSE THINGS BY TEN.
>> Reporter: THAT CONNECTION HAS
BEEN OBSERVED FOR WEEKS, BUT ANY
-- NOW CBC NEWS HAS USED CENSUS 
DATA TO PINPOINT IT.
THIS IS A MAP OF COVID-19 CASES 
IN MONTREAL.
OUR ANALYSIS FOUND CORRELATIONS 
BETWEEN HARD-HIT AREAS AND 
FACTORS SUCH AS RACE, INCOME AND
HOUSING.
THE STRONGEST BETWEEN THE NUMBER
OF CASES PER 100,000 RESIDENTS 
AND THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK 
RESIDENTS.
>> IT ALLOWS FOR US TO SAY THIS 
IS NOT ANECDOTAL.
THIS IS REAL.
>> Reporter: THERE WERE ALSO 
CORRELATIONS WITH THE NUMBER OF 
HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND LOW 
INCOME EARNERS.
THE DATA DOESN'T DETERMINE WHY. 
>> WE'VE RAISED THE RED FLAG 
SINCE THE GET-GO. 
>> Reporter: THIS ACTIVIST SAYS 
MONTREAL NORTH IS HOME TO MANY 
FRONT-LINE WORKERS AND CRAMPED 
APARTMENTS AND SAYS THE 
GOVERNMENT DIDN'T ACT FAST 
ENOUGH. 
>> THE FACT THAT THE BLACK 
POPULATION IS CONTRACTING THE 
VIRUS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE
MORE PRONE TO BE
INFECTED BY ANY VIRUS.
THERE'S JUST MORE PRONE TO 
INEQUALITIES.
>> Reporter: LAST MONTH, THE 
GOVERNMENT SAID IT WOULD COLLECT
RACE-BASED DATA BUT HASN'T 
STARTED YET. 
>> I THINK THAT THE ISSUE OF 
COLLECTING INFORMATION ABOUT 
RACE IS ALWAYS A SENSITIVE ONE.
I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE 
PROBABLY SOME STUDIES DONE 
SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE 
POPULATIONS.
>> THIS IS EPIDEMIOLOGY 101, TO
UNDERSTAND WHICH POPULATIONS IN 
-- AND WHICH INDIVIDUALS ARE 
MORE LIKELY TO BE INFECTED OR 
LESS LIKELY TO BECOME INFECTED.
>> WE ARE THE EXPERTS IN 
UNDERSTANDING HOW COVID-19 WOULD
AFFECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: CALLENDER SAYS 
RACE-BASED DATA AND 
CONSULTATIONS WITH COMMUNITY 
GROUPS WILL ALLOW THE PROVINCE 
TO TAILOR ITS RESPONSE AND 
BETTER PREPARE FOR A POSSIBLE 
SECOND WAVE.
ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS, 
MONTREAL.
>> Adrienne: TURNING TO B.C. 
NOW, AND MORE PROOF THAT 
COVID-19 INTERSECTS WITH ALREADY
MARGINALIZED PEOPLE IN SO MANY 
WAYS.
A RECORD NUMBER OF OVERDOSE 
DEATHS LAST MONTH, MORE DURING 
MAY THAN THE PROVINCE HAS SEEN 
FROM COVID-19 IN TOTAL.
BRIAR STEWART LOOKS AT TWO 
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISES, ONE MAKING
THE OTHER WORSE.
>> HEY, YOU GOT $20?
>> Reporter: THIS IS WHAT $120 
OF FENTANYL LOOKS LIKE ON THE 
STREET.
DANNY WA SELLS IT, SAYS IT ISN'T
HARD FOR HIM TO GET HIS HANDS ON
DRUGS THESE DAYS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO USING, HE 
HAS ONE RULE.
>> I NEVER USE ALONE.
IF YOU USE ALONE, YOU FUCKING 
DEAD.
YOU GONE.
>> Reporter: FOR YEARS, 
THOUSANDS IN B.C. HAVE BEEN 
DYING FROM TOXIC FENTANYL, BUT 
NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A GLOBAL 
PANDEMIC, IT'S GETTING WORSE.
THE NUMBER OF DEADLY OVERDOSES 
STARTED RISING SUBSTANTIALLY IN 
MARCH, BUT LAST MONTH A DISMAL 
RECORD, 170 DEATHS.
A MORE THAN 90% INCREASE FROM 
MAY OF LAST YEAR.
>> I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW 
DIFFICULT THIS NEWS HAS BEEN TO 
HEAR.
>> Reporter: HEALTH OFFICIALS 
SAY THE DRUGS HAVE BECOME EVEN 
MORE TOXIC.
BORDER CLOSURES HAVE DISRUPTED 
THE SUPPLY, SO THE DRUGS ON THE 
STREET ARE BEING CUT 
DIFFERENTLY.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] PEOPLE ARE 
DYING EVERY DAY. 
>> Reporter: AND PEOPLE ARE 
TURNING TO NEW SOURCES TO FIND 
DRUGS.
>> BEFORE, I WOULD BUY IT FROM 
THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND THAT
WAS IT.
NOW THAT'S HARD TO DO. 
>> Reporter: ANOTHER ISSUE, 
SAFETY PROTOCOLS TO HELP STOP 
THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 HAS MEANT
MANY SAFE CONSUMPTION SITES CAN 
ONLY RUN AT HALF CAPACITY, AND 
THERE ARE FEWER PLACES TO TEST 
DRUGS.
>> A LOT OF THE SROS OR SINGLE 
ROOM OCCUPANCIES AREN'T ALLOWING
VISITORS IN, AND PEOPLE ARE 
USING ALONE AND THEY ARE DYING.
>> YOU ALL RIGHT, MAN. 
>> Reporter: TREY HELTEN SAYS 
THE ONE GOOD THING TO COME OUT 
OF THE PANDEMIC IS THAT THE 
PROVINCE EXPANDED ACCESS TO SAFE
SUPPLY SO SYMPATHETIC OPIOIDS 
CAN BE PRESCRIBED TO MORE 
PEOPLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW MOST ARE STILL 
TURNING TO THE STREET, AND WHAT 
THEY ARE FINDING IS EVEN 
DEADLIER THAN BEFORE.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS, 
VANCOUVER.
>> Adrienne: TODAY SIX PROVINCES
REPORTED CASES OF COVID-19.
QUEBEC IS CONTINUING ON ITS 
DOWNWARD TREND, ADDING JUST 144 
NEW CASES.
ONTARIO HAD THE MOST NEW 
CONFIRMED CASES, 203.
ALBERTA ADDED 40.
BRITISH COLUMBIA 14.
CANADA'S TOTAL CONFIRMED CASES 
TONIGHT, MORE THAN 97,000.
>> Andrew: ONTARIO DAYCARES ARE 
ALLOWED TO REOPEN TOMORROW, BUT 
THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY OF THEM
WILL.
THE NEW PROCEDURES TO PREVENT 
THE SPREAD OF THIS CORONAVIRUS 
WILL TAKE TIME AND MONEY TO 
IMPLEMENT, AND AS DEANA 
SUMANAC-JOHNSON TELLS US, IT IS 
NOT CLEAR WHO'S PAYING FOR IT.
>> Reporter: AFTER MONTHS OF 
CARING FOR THEM AT HOME, YOU'D 
THINK PATRICK WONG WOULD JUMP AT
THE CHANCE TO SEND HIS KIDS BACK
TO DAYCARE.
INSTEAD, HE WAS STRUCK BY THE 
SHORT NOTICE ONTARIO CHILD CARE 
CENTRES WERE GIVEN TO IMPLEMENT 
EXPENSIVE SAFETY PROCEDURES.
>> WITH WHAT FUNDING?
WITH WHAT STRATEGY?
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE WE 
HAVE A UNIFORM PRACTICE OF 
ENGAGING SAFELY.
>> Reporter: IN FACT, MANY 
DAYCARES IN ONTARIO WILL NOT 
OPEN TOMORROW.
THE REASON, TOO MANY CHANGES TO 
BE MADE, TOO LITTLE TIME AND 
MONEY, SAYS THIS OPERATOR OF A 
CHILD CARE CENTRE.
THE TRICKIEST TO IMPLEMENT, 
GROUP SIZES THAT CAN'T EXCEED 
TEN.
THAT'S WITH THE TEACHERS. 
>> I MEAN, OUT OF MY 24 
PRESCHOOLER CHILDREN, HOW DO I 
DECIDE WHICH EIGHT GET THE 
COVETED SPACES?
>> Reporter: OTHER RULES AND 
RECOMMENDATIONS OUTLINED IN THE 
GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT SENT TO 
DAYCARES, FREQUENT SANITIZATION 
OF TOYS, REMOVAL OF SOFT TOYS 
THAT CAN'T BE CLEANED, AND 
TEMPERATURE CHECKS FOR EACH 
CHILD AT DROP-OFF.
>> THAT'S ONE ADDITIONAL 
STAFFING PERSON THAT CANNOT WORK
IN THE ROOMS AND THAT HAS TO 
STAFF THE SCREENING ENTRANCE
IN FULL P.P.E.
>> Reporter: WHICH LEADS TO THE 
QUESTION OF WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL
THOSE CHANGES.
THE GOVERNMENT TOLD CHILD CARE 
CENTRES THEY CAN'T CHARGE MORE,
BUT THE CENTRE PATRICK WONG'S 
CHILDREN ATTEND SENT PARENTS A 
LETTER WARNING THE FEES MIGHT 
TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE. 
>> WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO COULD. 
>> Reporter: ONTARIO MINISTRY OF
EDUCATION SAID IN A STATEMENT: 
BY IMPOSING SPECIFIC PUBLIC 
HEALTH REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE 
SIGNALLING OUR FIRM COMMITMENT 
TO KEEPING OUR CHILDREN, STAFF 
AND OUR FAMILIES SAFE.
FOR FAMILIES LIKE PATRICK 
WONG'S, THE CHOICE RIGHT NOW IS 
TO KEEP THE KIDS AT HOME, EVEN 
IF IT MEANS HE CAN'T GO LOOKING 
FOR A JOB JUST YET.
DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: TORONTO IS PLANNING 
TO MAKE FACE COVERINGS MANDATORY
ON ITS PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM, 
POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS JULY 2.
IF APPROVED, THERE WOULD 
TECHNICALLY BE A FINE FOR 
BREAKING THE LAW, BUT THE EARLY 
EMPHASIS WOULD BE ON EDUCATION, 
NOT ENFORCEMENT.
THERE WOULD ALSO BE EXEMPTIONS, 
CHILDREN UNDER TWO AND ANYBODY 
WHO CAN'T WEAR A MASK FOR 
MEDICAL REASONS.
>> Adrienne: IN ATLANTIC CANADA,
THE COVID-19 NUMBERS ARE LOW, 
AND THAT HAS LED TO TALKS OF AN 
ATLANTIC BUBBLE.
AS KAYLA HOUNSELL TELLS US, IT 
WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO TRAVEL 
WITHIN THE FOUR PROVINCES 
WITHOUT HAVING TO SELF-ISOLATE.
>> Reporter: THIS IS PEGGY'S 
COVE TODAY.
NOT A SOUL IN SIGHT.
THIS IS THE MAJOR TOURIST 
ATTRACTION ON PRETTY MUCH ANY 
DAY BEFORE COVID-19.
>> WE'VE HAD A HUGE ECONOMIC 
LOSS.
>> Reporter: JOHN CAMPBELL'S 
RESTAURANT IS OPEN NOW, BUT NOT 
MANY ARE COMING.
HE SAYS AN ATLANTIC BUBBLE WILL 
HELP.
>> IT WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY 
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING.
>> Reporter: THE ATLANTIC 
PROVINCES CONTINUE TO RESTRICT 
ACCESS TO VARYING DEGREES.
THE REGIONAL BUBBLE WOULD ALLOW 
RESIDENTS TO MOVE FREELY WITHOUT
ISOLATING.
>> THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT WE
NEED, I THINK RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: THIS DALHOUSIE 
UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR SPECIALIZES
IN TOURISM MANAGEMENT.
>> THE ECONOMIC FEAR IS NOW WELL
OUTWEIGHING THE FEAR OF THE 
HEALTH RISK.
>> Reporter: SHEEHAN SAYS 
TYPICALLY ABOUT 50% OF THE 
PEOPLE WHO VISIT PLACES LIKE 
NOVA SCOTIA AND PEGGY'S COVE 
COME FROM ELSEWHERE IN CANADA 
AND AROUND THE WORLD.
THE OTHER HALF ARE ALREADY 
COMING FROM WITHIN THE REGION, 
BUT HE SAYS NOW IS THE TIME FOR 
THE ATLANTIC PROVINCES TO START 
MARKETING THEMSELVES TO ONE 
ANOTHER.
BUT SO FAR THE ATLANTIC PREMIERS
ARE NOT ALL COMMITTING TO THE 
IDEA.
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INTERESTING
DISCUSSION, SOMETHING THAT, YOU 
KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT NOW IS
NOT THE TIME FOR US. 
>> WE AGREED OVER THE NEXT FEW 
WEEKS TO HAVE OUR AUTHORITIES 
WORK TOGETHER.
>> Reporter: CAMPBELL HAS 
ALREADY STARTED PURCHASING LOCAL
ADS. 
>> I THINK FOR ME IF I EVER CAME
CLOSE TO PROBABLY 50% OF NORMAL,
IF THAT WAS MY REVENUE, I'D TOP 
ANY GOAL I HAD.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE,
BUT IT MAY KEEP -- IT WILL KEEP 
PEOPLE EMPLOYED.
>> Reporter: HIS MESSAGE TO 
OTHER ATLANTIC CANADIANS IS THAT
WHAT IS PERHAPS THE MOST 
PHOTOGRAPHED LIGHTHOUSE IN THE 
WORLD IS WORTH CROSSING THE 
PROVINCIAL BORDER.
KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS, 
PEGGY'S COVE, NOVA SCOTIA.
>> Andrew: NOW IN THE U.S. THE 
SITUATION IS MUCH MORE DIRE.
COVID CASES ARE SPIKING THERE 
MERE WEEKS AFTER REOPENING 
STARTED, AND THERE ARE HARD 
PROJECTIONS OF WHAT PRICE IN 
HUMAN LIFE THAT MAY CARRY.
HERE'S SUSAN ORMISTON.
>> PROSECUTE THE POLICE!
>> Reporter: COVID CAUTIONS 
SEVERELY TESTED WHEN PROTESTS 
SWEPT AMERICA, GAINING IN SIZE 
AND STRENGTH.
MANY CITIES IMMEDIATELY URGING 
DEMONSTRATORS, GET TESTED.
ONE MORE WORRY ABOUT CORONAVIRUS
SPREAD.
NOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> President Donald Trump: WE 
MAY HAVE SOME EMBERS OR SOME 
ASHES.
>> Reporter: TRUMP CONTINUING TO
SMOTHER CONCERNS.
>> President Donald Trump: WE'LL
STOMP THEM OUT.
>> Reporter: TODAY, MORE LIKE 
FLAMES THAN EMBERS, THE U.S. 
STOCK MARKET'S WORST FALL SINCE 
MID MARCH.
>> I THINK THE QUESTION IS, YOU 
KNOW, DID WE REOPEN TOO SOON.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A VALID ONE.
>> Reporter: COVID 
HOSPITALIZATIONS AT A RECORD 
HIGH IN ARIZONA.
U.S. CASES TOPPLING 2 MILLION, 
RISING IN 21 STATES, EVEN AFTER 
VICE-PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE SAID 
DON'T WORRY.
>> WE DON'T SEE AN INCREASE IN 
NEW CASES NOW NEARLY TWO WEEKS 
ON FROM WHEN THE FIRST PROTEST 
TOOK EFFECT.
>> Reporter: IT'S TOO EARLY TO 
TELL CONCLUSIVELY, SAY HEALTH 
EXPERTS.
REJECTIONS SHOW SPIKES WILL 
RESULT IN TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE
DEATHS. 
>> THE SCENE RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 
180,000 DEATHS TOTAL DEATHS 
UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
>> Reporter: THE U.S. RECOVERY 
MORE OF A SHALLOW DOWNWARD SLOPE
THAN A FLATTENING CURVE.
IN CANADA, A MORE DEMONSTRABLE 
DECLINE.
THE U.K. MARCHING CLEARLY DOWN 
WHILE ITALY'S SHAPE, WHAT 
EVERYONE SEEKS.
THIS DOCTOR SAYS THE U.S. AND 
CANADA ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT 
DIRECTION, BUT BEWARE THE 
AUTUMN.
>> IT WILL CLIMB ALL THE WAY 
UNTIL THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST, 
AND IT START GOING UP AFTER 
THAT.
AND IT WILL START GOING UP EVEN 
RAPIDLY THE SECOND WEEK OR THIRD
WEEK OF SEPTEMBER.
>> Reporter: SO JUST AS WORRIES 
RESURFACE ABOUT THIS VIRUS AND 
REOPENING, PRESIDENT TRUMP 
ANNOUNCES HE'LL GO BACK ON THE 
ROAD FOR LARGE CAMPAIGN RALLIES 
BEGINNING IN A WEEK.
SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, 
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: NOW ONE OF THE MOST 
RECOGNIZED FACES OF THE U.S. 
FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19 IS 
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI.
EARLIER TODAY HE SPOKE TO 
ROSEMARY BARTON.
>> Rosemary: DO YOU THINK A 
SECOND WAVE IS INEVITABLE?
WE KNOW THAT MOST PANDEMICS DO 
HAVE ONE.
>> IT IS NOT INEVITABLE THAT WE 
WILL HAVE A SECOND WAVE, AS IT 
WERE.
BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.
 --
BUT IT COULD HAPPEN IF WE DON'T 
HANDLE THE CASES THAT WILL 
INEVITABLY APPEAR.
>> Andrew: YOU'LL HEAR MORE OF
FAUCI'S MESSAGE IN HIS FIRST 
CANADIAN TELEVISION INTERVIEW 
COMING UP.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
SYSTEMIC RACISM IS AN ISSUE 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN ALL
OUR INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING IN 
ALL OUR POLICE FORCES, INCLUDING
IN THE RCMP.
THAT'S WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM IS.
>> Adrienne: THE PRIME MINISTER 
TODAY BLUNTLY STATING THAT 
SYSTEMIC RACISM EXISTS IN THE 
RCMP.
ON "THE NATIONAL" LAST NIGHT, 
COMMISSIONER BRENDA LUCKI --
TODAY TRUDEAU HAS INSISTED HE 
HAS FAITH IN THE WORK LUCKI IS 
DOING TO COMBAT RACISM IN THE 
FORCE.
ONE RECENT INCIDENT THAT IS 
UNDER SCRUTINY IS THE ARREST OF 
ALBERTA FIRST NATION CHIEF ALLAN
ADAM.
TONIGHT CBC NEWS HAS OBTAINED 
DASH CAMERA FOOTAGE OF THAT 
ARREST.
RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN TAKES US 
THROUGH IT.
>> Reporter: UNTIL TODAY, THIS 
WAS THE ONLY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE 
VIDEO SHOWING THE EVENTS IN 
MARCH.
EARLIER THIS WEEK, FORT 
CHIPEWYAN FIRST NATION CHIEF 
ALLAN ADAM SAID HE AND HIS WIFE 
WERE STOPPED AFTER LEAVING A 
CASINO BECAUSE OF EXPIRED 
LICENCE PLATES.
THEN THINGS ESCALATED.
>> NO WAY IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 
SHOULD AN RCMP PUT HIS HANDS ON 
YOU, LET ALONE GIVE YOU A 
CLOTHESLINE AND DO COMPETITIVE  
EXCESSIVE DAMAGE TO ONE PERSON'S
FACE.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT WE SEE THE 
DASH CAM VIDEO WHICH GIVES A 
MUCH CLEARER PICTURE OF WHAT 
HAPPENED.
[YELLING]
NOW CHIEF ADAMS' LAWYER WANTS TO
USE THAT VIDEO TO HAVE ASSAULT 
CHARGES DISMISSED.
>> HE AS THE LEADER FEELS THAT 
HE HAS TO STAND UP AND MAKE A 
STATEMENT.
YOU CAN'T -- IF YOU'RE BOTHERING
ME AS THE LEADER, WHAT'S 
HAPPENING TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO 
HAVE NO VOICE?
>> Reporter: ADAM IS DUE IN 
COURT IN JULY.
ALBERTA'S EXTERNAL POLICE 
INVESTIGATION BODY, ASIRT, SAYS 
IT'S ALSO INVESTIGATING THE 
CONDUCT OF THE OFFICERS.
RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN, CBC NEWS, 
EDMONTON.
>> Adrienne: THE TRUDEAU 
GOVERNMENT HAS ALWAYS DECLARED 
ITS COMMITMENT TO CORE VALUES OF
DIVERSITY AND EQUITY, BUT WHAT 
HAS THAT MEANT FOR THE MAKEUP OF
THE FEDERAL CIVIL SERVICE?
SALIMAH SHIVJI LOOKS AT WHO GETS
HIRED AND WHO GETS PROMOTED.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> Reporter: A DRAMATIC SHOW OF 
SUPPORT FROM A PRIME MINISTER 
BIG ON SYMBOLS.
>> BECAUSE IT'S 2015.
>> Reporter: WHEN JUSTIN TRUDEAU
FIRST UNVEILED A GENDER-BALANCED
CABINET, HE ALSO PROMISED HIS 
GOVERNMENT WOULD REFLECT THE 
COUNTRY.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: A 
CABINET THAT LOOKS LIKE CANADA.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE STILL 
ISN'T MUCH COLOUR BEHIND THE 
SCENES.
37 CHIEFS OF STAFF, JUST FOUR 
ARE VISIBLE MINORITIES, 11%, 
LESS THAN HALF THEIR ACTUAL 
PRESENCE IN THE POPULATION.
THIS PERSON WORKED BRIEFLY AS AN
ADVISOR IN CHRYSTIA FREELAND'S 
OFFICE.
>> I WOULD GO IN TO MEETINGS, 
AND I'M THE ONLY NON-WHITE 
PERSON THERE.
I FELT THAT WHEN I WOULD RAISE 
MY VOICE AND GIVE MY ADVICE THAT
IT WASN'T TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
>> Reporter: THE LIBERALS HAVE 
DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF MINORITIES
NAMED TO RUN AGENCIES, BOARDS 
AND CROWN CORPORATIONS.
BUT THEY LAG WHEN IT COMES TO 
DEPUTY MINISTERS, THE 
SENIOR-MOST LEVEL.
CAROLINE XAVIER BECAME THE FIRST
BLACK CIVIL SERVANT EVER TO 
BECOME AN ASSOCIATE DEPUTY 
MINISTER IN FEBRUARY.
>> HOW COME IT TOOK SO LONG?
IT SHOULDN'T HAVE.
THE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING.
THERE'S A RECOGNITION AT THE 
MOST SENIOR LEVEL THAT THIS HAS 
GOT TO GOT RECTIFIED.
>> Reporter: ONE CONVERSATION 
THAT ISN'T EASY, THAT BLACK 
EMPLOYEES ARE OFTEN AT THE 
BOTTOM OF THE SALARY SCALE.
>> WE KEEP HAVING COMMITTEES AND
REPORTS AND, TO BE HONEST, WE'RE
COMING UP WITH THE SAME DATA.
WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THOSE 
BARRIERS. 
>> Reporter: BARRIERS LIKE 
LANGUAGE REQUIREMENTS AND THE 
NEED FOR REGIONAL 
REPRESENTATION.
ALSO EMPLOYMENT EQUITY LAWS USE 
THE BROAD TERM VISIBLE MINORITY 
ASSUMING THE REALITY IS THE SAME
FOR A BLACK CANADIAN AS FOR A 
SOUTH ASIAN.
IT'S NOT.
THAT LANGUAGE MAY CHANGE, BUT 
FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT PHOTO OP, 
REVAMPING THE PUBLIC SERVICE HAS
EVEN MORE URGENCY FOR THE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THIS 
IS A MOMENT WHERE CANADIANS ARE 
RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS 
UNFAIRNESS BUILT INTO OUR 
SYSTEM.
>> Reporter: PROTESTERS READY TO
HOLD HIM TO HIS PROMISE.
SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: THE CANADIAN MUSEUM 
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IS ONE OF THOSE
CROWN CORPORATIONS, AND AS 
CAMERON MacINTOSH SHOWS US, IT 
IS FACING ALLEGATIONS OF RACIAL 
DISCRIMINATION.
>> BLACK LIVES MATTER!
>> Reporter: SYMBOLIC AS A 
BACKDROP, THE CANADIAN MUSEUM 
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS WAS THE END 
POINT OF A MARCH THAT DREW 
THOUSANDS IN SUPPORT OF BLACK 
LIVES MATTER.
NOW SOME ARE CALLING OUT THE 
MUSEUM ITSELF FOR ITS TREATMENT 
OF STAFF WHO ARE BLACK, 
INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOUR.
>> I AM THE ONLY BLACK 
VOLUNTEER.
>> Reporter: JUSTIN HAS 
VOLUNTEERED THERE SINCE DAY ONE.
HE SAYS RACISM WAS A FACTOR WHEN
HE WAS PASSED OVER FOR A PAYING 
JOB THREE TIMES.
>> I AM AN ACCOUNTANT.
I APPLY FOR AN ACCOUNTANT.
NO WAY. 
>> Reporter: ONLINE, SEVERAL 
FORMER STAFF ARE POSTING SIMILAR
COMPLAINTS ABOUT BEING 
MARGINALIZED AS MANAGEMENT 
LOOKED THE OTHER WAY. 
>> I EXPERIENCED RACISM AT THE 
MUSEUM, EITHER FROM STAFF, FROM 
VISITORS, OR FROM STAKEHOLDERS.
>> Reporter: THIS FORMER GUIDE 
STARTED THE THREAD.
>> IT'S ABOUT REPEATEDLY TRYING 
TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND KIND OF
REPEATEDLY GETTING THE BRUSHOFF 
OR NO RESULTS AND NO CHANGE.
>> Reporter: THE MUSEUM HAS 
FACED PREVIOUS ACCUSATIONS OF A 
TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT.
>> IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S SOME 
SHORTCOMINGS HERE IN THE 
INSTITUTION.
>> Reporter: CEO JOHN YOUNG SAYS
THERE WILL BE EXTERNAL REVIEWS 
OF HOW STAFF ARE TREATED.
>> WE HAVE A PLAN TO ENGAGE WITH
OUR STAFF, FIRST AND FOREMOST.
WE HAVE TO BUILD TRUST 
INTERNALLY, AND THEN SEEK TO 
BUILD TRUST EXTERNALLY.
>> THE STRUCTURES OF THE MUSEUM 
HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO HEAR FROM
BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF 
COLOUR STAFF AND HAVE AMPLE 
EVIDENCE ALREADY.
>> Reporter: HE WELCOMES THE 
DIALOGUE. 
>> I WANT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT WE 
CAN CHANGE.
>> Reporter: THE MUSEUM PROMISES
A TRANSPARENT REVIEW.
CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS, 
WINNIPEG.
>> Adrienne: FACIAL RECOGNITION 
SOFTWARE IS POPULAR WITH LAW 
ENFORCEMENT, BUT THIS WEEK THREE
MAJOR COMPANIES SAID POLICE 
FORCES HAVE TO STOP USING IT.
THOMAS DAIGLE SHOWS US MORE.
>> Reporter: MAYBE YOU'VE USED 
FACIAL RECOGNITION AT THE 
AIRPORT, OR TO UNLOCK YOUR 
SMARTPHONE.
BUT WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY IS USED 
BY POLICE TO IDENTIFY SUSPECTS, 
THAT'S WHEN IT CAUSES THE MOST 
CONCERN.
CALGARY POLICE WERE THE FIRST IN
CANADA TO SHOW OFF THEIR FACIAL 
RECOGNITION SOFTWARE MORE THAN 
FIVE YEARS AGO.
BUT IT'S GROWN MORE 
SOPHISTICATED, WITH BRITISH 
AUTHORITIES NOW USING LIVE 
CAMERAS AND ARTIFICIAL 
INTELLIGENCE TO SPOT SUSPECTS. 
>> WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK A PERSON,
EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN THE 
SHOT.
>> Reporter: AMAZON HAS BEEN 
BOASTING FOR YEARS ABOUT ITS 
SOFTWARE CAPABILITIES, BUT NOW A
SHIFT.
AMID GROWING SCRUTINY, AMAZON, 
IBM AND MICROSOFT ALL ANNOUNCED 
THIS WEEK THEY ARE AT LEAST 
PAUSING POLICE USE OF THEIR 
FACIAL RECOGNITION TOOLS IN THE 
U.S. 
>> UNTIL WE HAVE A NATIONAL LAW 
IN PLACE, GROUNDED IN HUMAN 
RIGHTS THAT WILL GOVERN THIS 
TECHNOLOGY.
>> Reporter: THE SOFTWARE SCANS 
FACES, MEASURING KEY FEATURES 
AND STORING THE DATA.
BUT THE DATA IT'S GIVEN TO LEARN
MOSTLY COMES FROM WHITE FACES, 
MEANING PEOPLE OF COLOUR CAN BE 
MISIDENTIFIED.
>> IT CREATES A FACE GRAPH WHICH
IS A STATISTICAL MODEL OF THE 
FACE.
WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK FACES, A 
FACE LIKE MINE, I WOULD 
COMPLETELY CONFUSE THE SYSTEM.
>> Reporter: IN ONTARIO, THE 
PRIVACY COMMISSIONER LEARNED OF 
15 POLICE AGENCIES THAT 
TEMPORARILY USED FACIAL 
RECOGNITION.
>> IF POLICE ACTUALLY CARED 
ABOUT THIS AS A CONCERN, THEY 
WOULD NOT -- THEY WOULD SAY 
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE THIS 
TECHNOLOGY.
>> Reporter: JUST ONE OF THE 
MANY DEMANDS AS POLICE TACTICS 
ARE PUT IN THE SPOTLIGHT AND 
CALLS FOR DEFUNDING GROW LOUDER.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP'S TOP 
GENERAL SAYS HE REGRETS DOING A 
PHOTO SHOOT WITH THE PRESIDENT.
>> I SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
>> Adrienne: UP NEXT, WHY HE'S 
JOINING A GROWING LIST OF 
MILITARY LEADERS AT ODDS WITH 
THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> Andrew: PLUS, IN-DEPTH WITH 
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI. 
>> Rosemary: WHAT IS THE MESSAGE
TO THE WORLD ABOUT HOW THE 
UNITED STATES IS DOING?
HOW CONCERNED SHOULD THE WORLD 
BE?
>> Andrew: THE U.S.'S TOP 
INFECTIOUS DISEASES EXPERT IN 
HIS FIRST CANADIAN TV INTERVIEW.
>> Adrienne: AND AFTER THREE 
MONTHS, THE SWEETEST REUNION.
NOTHING BE
>> Adrienne: CHRISTOPHER 
COLUMBUS IN TEXAS AND FLORIDA 
DOGGED WITH BLOOD RED PAINT.
IN BOSTON, BEHEADED.
A CONFEDERATE MONUMENT HOODED 
AND MARKED IN GEORGIA.
ANOTHER PULLED APART IN 
VIRGINIA.
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, PEOPLE
AREN'T WAITING FOR POLITICIANS 
TO MAKE THE DECISION.
THEY ARE TEARING DOWN SYMBOLS 
ASSOCIATED WITH RACISM ITSELF.
-- THEMSELVES.
SINCE THE ANTI-BLACK RACISM 
DEMONSTRATIONS BEGAN, WHAT WAS 
ONCE CELEBRATED CAN SUDDENLY BE 
INDEFENSIBLE.
AS KATIE SIMPSON EXPLAINS, 
AMERICA'S TOP MILITARY OFFICIAL 
IS NOW DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM A
KEY EPISODE OF DONALD TRUMP'S 
RESPONSE TO THE PROTESTS.
>> Reporter: PIECE BY PIECE, AN 
ADDED LAYER OF PROTECTION AROUND
THE WHITE HOUSE WAS CARRIED 
AWAY, A SYMBOLIC SCALE DOWN OF 
SECURITY AT A PLACE THE 
PRESIDENT USED TO PUT ON A SHOW 
OF FORCE.
PEACEFUL PROTESTERS WERE 
VIOLENTLY REMOVED FROM THIS SITE
NEARLY TWO WEEKS AGO SO DONALD 
TRUMP COULD HOLD A PHOTO OP.
THE COUNTRY'S TOP-RANKING 
MILITARY OFFICER SAYS HE NOW 
REGRETS TAKING PART.
>> I SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
MY PRESENCE IN THAT MOMENT AND 
IN THAT ENVIRONMENT CREATED A 
PERCEPTION OF THE MILITARY 
INVOLVED IN DOMESTIC POLITICS.
>> Reporter: THE GENERAL JOINS A
LIST OF MILITARY LEADERS, 
INCLUDING TWO OF TRUMP'S FORMER 
CABINET MEMBERS WHO HAVE 
CRITICIZED THE PRESIDENT'S 
HANDLING OF THE GROWING UNREST.
TRUMP FOCUSED ELSEWHERE TODAY, 
REAFFIRMING HIS SUPPORT FOR 
POLICE, PLEDGING ADDITIONAL 
FUNDING AND TRAINING.
>> President Donald Trump: WE'LL
MAKE NO PROGRESS AND HEAL NO 
WOUNDS BY FALSELY LABELLING TENS
OF MILLIONS OF DECENT AMERICANS 
AS RACIST OR BIGOTS.
>> Reporter: THIS MESSAGE WILL 
BE FRONT AND CENTRE WHEN THE 
PRESIDENT RESUMES CAMPAIGNING 
NEXT WEEK. 
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TO AFRICAN
AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS VERY NEAR 
AND DEAR TO HIS HEART.
AT THESE RALLIES HE OFTEN SHARES
THE GREAT WORK HE'S DONE FOR 
MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 
>> Reporter: TRUMP'S FIRST RALLY
IN MONTHS IS PLANNED FOR TULSA, 
OKLAHOMA.
99 YEARS AGO WHITE SUPREMACISTS 
THERE DESTROYED A BLACK 
COMMUNITY, KILLING HUNDREDS OF 
PEOPLE.
THE DATE IS JUNE 19, ALSO KNOWN 
AS JUNE-TEENTH, A HOLIDAY 
MARKING THE END OF SLAVERY IN 
THE U.S. 
>> WE ALL KNOW THE HISTORY OF 
DONALD TRUMP.
THE DATE IS NOT BY ACCIDENT.
>> I MEAN, IT'S A DISRESPECT TO 
THE PEOPLE FROM THE PAST.
I MEAN, I JUST DON'T THINK 
THAT -- MAYBE IT'S A SLAP IN THE
FACE.
>> Reporter: WITH THE ADDITIONAL
LAYER OF SECURITY FENCING NOW 
GONE, DEMONSTRATORS ARE ONCE 
AGAIN WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE 
OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE BIG QUESTION IS WHETHER 
THEIR SHOUTS ARE BEING HEARD.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, 
WASHINGTON.
>> Adrienne: SO YES, IT IS 
THURSDAY, BUT "AT ISSUE" IS 
TAKING A WEEK OFF.
>> Andrew: INSTEAD, ROSIE IS UP 
NEXT WITH THE FIRST CANADIAN TV 
INTERVIEW WITH THE TOP 
INFECTIOUS DISEASES EXPERT IN 
THE UNITED STATES.
HEAR FROM DR. ANTHONY FAUCI ON 
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, 
DISAGREEING WITH DONALD TRUMP, 
AND HOW TO BEAT THE CORONAVIRUS.
>> WE ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC 
THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE 
COULD HAVE A VACCINE THAT COULD 
BE READY TO DEPLOY TO THE 
PUBLIC.
>> Andrew: THE FULL INTERVIEW, 
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> Andrew: TODAY MARKS THREE 
MONTHS SINCE THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION DECLARED A GLOBAL 
PANDEMIC, AND SINCE THEN, THE 
U.S. HAS BEEN HIT PARTICULARLY 
HARD WITH MORE REPORTED CASES 
AND DEATHS THAN ANY OTHER 
COUNTRY.
CBC'S CHIEF POLITICAL 
CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON 
SPOKE TO THE TOP INFECTIOUS 
DISEASES EXPERT LEADING THAT 
COUNTRY'S RESPONSE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 
MR. PRESIDENT, 
MR. VICE-PRESIDENT. 
>> Rosemary: DR. ANTHONY FAUCI 
HAS BEEN A PUBLIC FACE IN THE 
FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19 IN THE 
U.S., PUSHING SCIENCE OVER 
POLITICS AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND 
ELSEWHERE.
>> I HAVE NEVER MADE MYSELF OUT 
TO BE THE END ALL AND ONLY VOICE
IN THIS. 
>> Rosemary: HE'S A KEY MEMBER
OF TRUMP'S TASK FORCE, FUELLING 
AND UNAFRAID TO CONTRADICT HIM, 
FUELLING SPECULATION AROUND HIS 
FIRING.
>> President Donald Trump: I'M 
NOT FIRING HIM.
I THINK HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY.
>> Rosemary: IN MAY, DR. FAUCI 
WAS QUARANTINED AS A POSSIBLE.
PRECAUTION AND SEEMS TO HAVE 
KEPT A LOWER PROFILE EVER SINCE.
THIS AS THE U.S. MOVES FORWARD 
WITH ITS REOPENING, DESPITE HIS 
EARLIER WARNINGS TO MOVE SLOWLY.
I ASKED DR. FAUCI ABOUT THAT AND
HOW THE U.S. HAS HANDLED THE 
CRISIS.
DR. FAUCI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
MAKING THE TIME.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>> Rosemary: I WANT TO TALK A 
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REOPENING 
PROCESS IN THE UNITED STATES, 
BECAUSE OVER THE PAST WEEK OR SO
WE HAVE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN 
CASES IN PLACES LIKE TEXAS, 
CALIFORNIA, OREGON.
DOES THAT TELL YOU THAT THE 
REOPENING IS HAPPENING TOO 
QUICKLY?
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS AROUND 
THAT?
>> WHENEVER YOU START TO REOPEN 
OR GET TO SOME DEGREE OF WHAT WE
CALL NORMALITY, THERE WILL BE 
INCREASE IN CASES.
THE INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT 
THING IS TO IDENTIFY, ISOLATE 
AND CONTACT TRACE SO THAT YOU 
CAN BLUNT THOSE LITTLE BLIPS AND
PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING TRUE 
REBOUNDS OF INFECTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SEE, 
BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE 
SEEING THE APPEARANCE OF 
ADDITIONAL INFECTIONS, 
PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS THAT 
ARE OPENING.
IF WE HANDLE THEM WELL, WE COULD
BE OKAY.
IF NOT, THEN WE REALLY HAVE A 
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.
>> Rosemary: THE U.S. HAS HAD A 
MORTALITY RATE THAT'S ABOUT 60% 
HIGHER THAN CANADA'S.
IT'S HAD TWICE THE NUMBER OF 
CASES PER CAPITA.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S 
BEEN THAT VAST DIFFERENCE?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD 
QUESTION.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE 
DIFFERENCE -- THE REASON FOR 
THAT DIFFERENCE.
IT COULD POSSIBLY BE -- I MEAN, 
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT DICTATES 
MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY, WE HAVE
A PARTICULAR VULNERABILITY AMONG
INDIVIDUALS WHO DO HAVE THESE 
CO-MORBIDITIES OF HYPERTENSION, 
OF OBESITY, OF A VARIETY OF 
OTHER UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE VULNERABILITY AMONG
OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION.
IT IS ENTIRELY CONCEIVABLE THAT 
THE DISPARITY IN THE RELATIVE 
PROPORTIONS DEMOGRAPHICALLY OF 
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND OTHER 
MINORITIES WOULD MAKE OUR 
MORTALITY RATE HIGHER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT AS A FACT, BUT
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE 
SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER. 
>> Rosemary: THE BORDER BETWEEN 
CANADA AND THE U.S. AS YOU KNOW 
WAS SHUT DOWN TO NON-ESSENTIAL 
TRAVEL TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
TRAVELLERS WILL NO LONGER BE 
PERMITTED TO CROSS THE BORDER 
FOR RECREATION AND TOURISM.
>> President Donald Trump: WE 
DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING INTO 
CONTACT.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO 
WIN THIS WAR.
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
>> Rosemary: CAN I ASK YOU WHAT 
YOU THINK SHOULD BE THE CRITERIA
FOR REOPENING THE BORDER BETWEEN
OUR TWO COUNTRIES?
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN 
PLACE ON BOTH SIDES IN ORDER TO 
MAKE THAT REOPENING SAFE?
>> I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON CLOSING
AND OPENING BORDERS.
WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE UNDER
ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE TO 
SEE A SIGNIFICANT DIMINUTION 
CONSISTENTLY IN THE NUMBER OF 
CASES, HOSPITALIZATIONS AND 
OBVIOUSLY DEATHS.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU MENTIONED 
ABOUT SOME STATES NOW HAVING AN 
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES 
MAKES ONE PAUSE AND BE A LITTLE 
BIT CONCERNED.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO EXTRAPOLATE 
THAT TO MAKING ANY STATEMENTS 
ABOUT BORDER CLOSINGS.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S FAIR.
WHAT IS THE MESSAGE TO THE WORLD
ABOUT HOW THE UNITED STATES IS 
DOING OR HOW CONCERNED SHOULD 
THE WORLD BE GIVEN HOW THIS 
UNFOLDED THERE?
>> WELL, I'M NOT SO SURE THE 
WORLD SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
THE UNITED STATES HAS GONE 
THROUGH A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT 
SITUATION.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE NUMBERS.
>> Rosemary: YEP. 
>> THERE ARE MILLIONS OF CASES, 
AND WE HAVE NOW 112,000 DEATHS.
THAT IS THE MOST OF ANY COUNTRY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS 
OBVIOUSLY VERY SERIOUS THAT 
WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH.
I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A CONCERN
FOR US THAN IT IS FOR A CONCERN 
FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.
>> Rosemary: IN CANADA THERE IS 
A REAL DEFERENCE FROM 
POLITICIANS TO PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS AND SCIENTISTS IN THE 
WAY THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, ASKED TO
ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND
THE PANDEMIC.
HOW DOES THAT KIND OF DEFERENCE 
HELP THE POPULATION TRUST 
INFORMATION?
>> WELL, WHEN YOU HEAR FROM 
HEALTH OFFICIALS WHOSE JOB IS 
THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE 
NATION, THEN YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE
IN WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS 
SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH 
FOLLOWING, WHICH IS THE REASON 
WHY I'M ON TELEVISION HERE 
TALKING TO YOU AND I DO THE SAME
THING WITH OUTLETS IN THE UNITED
STATES, TRY AND GET THE ACCURATE
INFORMATION TO THE GENERAL 
PUBLIC.
>> Rosemary: HAS THAT BEEN 
CHALLENGING FOR YOU, GIVEN THE 
ADMINISTRATION?
>> ACTUALLY NOT BECAUSE I HAVE 
BEEN ABLE TO FREELY GO OUT AND 
TALK ABOUT EVIDENCE-BASED FACTS,
AND I'VE HAD NO INTERFERENCE IN 
MY DOING THAT.
>> Rosemary: LET ME ASK YOU A 
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE W.H.O., IF 
YOU DON'T MIND.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN -- THERE'S 
BEEN LOTS OF QUESTIONS, IN ALL 
COUNTRIES, IN THIS COUNTRY AS 
WELL, BUT THE PRESIDENT IN YOUR 
COUNTRY HAS SAID THAT HE INTENDS
FOR THE U.S. TO LEAVE THE W.H.O.
>> President Donald Trump: 
REDIRECTING THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER
WORLDWIDE AND DESERVING URGENT 
GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS.
>> Rosemary: ARE YOU WORRIED 
ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT 
DECISION?
>> WELL, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN 
DEALING WITH THE W.H.O. NOW FOR 
FOUR DECADES.
THE W.H.O. IS AN IMPERFECT 
ORGANIZATION.
IT CERTAINLY HAS MADE SOME 
MISSTEPS, BUT IT HAS ALSO DONE A
LOT OF GOOD.
THE WORLD NEEDS A W.H.O.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD 
CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM WHAT 
THE W.H.O. CAN DO AT THE SAME 
TIME THAT THEY CONTINUE TO 
IMPROVE THEMSELVES.
>> Rosemary: BUT IF THE U.S. IS 
WITHDRAWING AND HAS SUSPENDED 
ALL FUNDING AS THE BIGGEST 
FUNDER ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT 
THE FUTURE OF THE W.H.O. AS 
SOMEONE THAT HAS LEANED ON IT 
AND FOUND IT HELPFUL IN THE 
PAST?
>> WELL, LIKE I SAID, AND I'LL 
REPEAT, THE WORLD DOES NEED A 
W.H.O., AS IMPERFECT AS IT IS, 
BUT WE WOULD HOPE THAT AS IT 
GOES FORWARD IT WOULD CONTINUE 
TO IMPROVE AND TRY TO 
ESSENTIALLY CORRECT SOME OF THE 
MISSTEPS OF THE PAST.
>> Rosemary: CAN WE TALK ABOUT 
VACCINES A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE 
THERE ARE MORE THAN A HUNDRED OR
SO VACCINES THAT ARE IN 
DEVELOPMENT NOW, AS WELL AS 
VARIOUS TREATMENTS.
WE HAVE HEARD MAYBE BY THE END 
OF THE YEAR.
WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT ON HOW 
CLOSE WE ARE TO THAT RIGHT NOW?
>> WE WILL BE GOING INTO A PHASE
THREE TRIAL FOR EFFICACY, WHICH 
IS A LARGE TRIAL, OF ABOUT 
30,000 INDIVIDUALS, WHICH IF 
WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, AND I HAVE TO 
UNDERLINE "IF" BECAUSE WHENEVER 
YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE 
DEVELOPMENT OF A VACCINE, 
NOTHING IS EVER GUARANTEED, BUT 
WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT
AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE 
BEGINNING OF 2021, WE COULD HAVE
A VACCINE THAT COULD BE READY TO
DEPLOY TO THE PUBLIC.
>> Rosemary: AT THIS STAGE, DO 
YOU THINK A SECOND WAVE IS 
INEVITABLE?
WE KNOW THE MOST PANDEMICS DO 
HAVE ONE.
IS IT INEVITABLE?
WILL WE BE ABLE TO CONTAIN IT?
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S 
INEVITABLE.
I THINK WE WILL, AS WE GET INTO 
THE FALL AND WINTER, SEE 
ADDITIONAL CASES.
IF WE HANDLE THEM PROPERLY AND 
EFFICIENTLY, I BELIEVE IT IS NOT
INEVITABLE THAT WE WILL HAVE A 
SECOND WAVE, AS IT WERE.
BUT IT COULD HAPPEN IF WE DON'T 
HANDLE THE CASES THAT WILL 
INEVITABLY APPEAR.
WHAT IS NOT INEVITABLE IS THAT 
IT WILL TURN INTO A SECOND WAVE.
>> Rosemary: YOU DO SOUND MORE 
HOPEFUL THAN I WOULD HAVE 
EXPECTED, THOUGH.
>> WELL, I'M CAUTIOUSLY 
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE 
INTERVENTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING 
TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT.
I BELIEVE THAT IF WE GET A 
VACCINE AND WE IMPLEMENT THE 
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES TO THE 
BEST OF OUR ABILITY, THAT WE'LL 
GET OVER THIS.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE ORDEAL WE'RE 
GOING THROUGH, BUT IT WILL END 
AND WE WILL GET OVER IT.
>> Rosemary: DR. FAUCI, THANK 
YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME 
FOR THIS COUNTRY.
WE DO APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
>> MY PLEASURE.
IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Andrew: AND NEXT ON "THE 
NATIONAL," THE BLACK CANADIAN 
HOCKEY PLAYER WHO'S THE FOCUS OF
SOLIDARITY MARCHES IN THE 1970S.
>> THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING 
ON FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE RECORDING
THEM.
>> Andrew: THE TRAGEDY THAT 
OVERTOOK PAUL SMITHERS LIFE 
AFTER A LIFETIME OF RACISM.
HIS STORY AND WHAT HE THINKS OF 
THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY, NEXT.
>> Adrienne: AS PROTESTS HERE 
AND IN THE U.S. FORCE A WIDER 
CONFRONTATION WITH THE REALITY 
OF RACISM, FOR PAUL SMITHERS 
IT'S ALSO FORCED A FRESH 
CONFRONTATION WITH HIS PAST.
IN THE 1970S, SMITHERS MADE 
INTERNATIONAL HEADLINES AS AN 
ONTARIO TEEN, AN EXTRAORDINARY 
SIGHT ON THE ICE, NOT JUST 
BECAUSE OF HIS RAW TALENT, BUT 
BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK, AND 
BECAUSE OF ONE DEFINING 
INCIDENT.
AFTER A GAME, SMITHERS 
CONFRONTED A PLAYER WHO HAD 
ATTACKED HIM WITH RACIAL SLURS.
THEY SCUFFLED, AND THAT PLAYER 
DIED.
SMITHERS FOUGHT HIS CONVICTION 
FOR MANSLAUGHTER ALL THE WAY TO 
THE SUPREME COURT AND LOST.
RACISM AND THE CHAIN OF ACTIONS 
AND CONSEQUENCES THAT FLOW FROM 
IT MARKED HIS LIFE FOREVER, BUT 
TONIGHT HE IS OPENING UP TO "THE
NATIONAL."
>> I THINK I STARTED TO LIKE 
HOCKEY AT PROBABLY ABOUT THE AGE
OF ABOUT FIVE.
IT WAS LIKE WALKING OR LIKE 
BREATHING, AND IT WAS AN ESCAPE.
MY MOM WOULD BE WAKING ME UP AT 
ABOUT 5:00 IN THE MORNING TO GET
DRESSED IN MY HOCKEY GEAR IN 
ORDER TO GO TO THE RINK.
GOING BACK TO THAT PERIOD OF 
TIME, I WAS THE ONLY BLACK YOUNG
MAN PLAYING HOCKEY.
IT STARTED TO BE WITH THE "N" 
WORD.
AND MY FATHER ALWAYS TOLD ME 
THAT IF YOU'RE JUST ONE OF THE 
GUYS, THEY DON'T BOTHER YOU.
BUT IF YOU START TO BE MAYBE A 
LITTLE BETTER THAN SOME OF THE 
GUYS, THAT'S WHEN THEY NOTICE 
YOU, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL 
THROW THAT KIND OF STUFF AT YOU.
THE NIGHT THAT EVERYTHING 
HAPPENED, FEBRUARY 18, 1973, IT 
WAS A RIVALRY BETWEEN BARRIE AND
I, WHICH WE WERE TWO OF THE 
BETTER PLAYERS ON THE TEAM.
IT'S JUST WHEN THE "N" WORD 
STARTS TO SURFACE AND IT BECOMES
MORE AND MORE PREDOMINANT 
THROUGHOUT THE GAME.
THE "N" WORD IS INCREDIBLY 
EMBARRASSING.
IT'S HUMILIATING.
YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO CRAWL 
UNDER A TABLE BECAUSE HOW DO YOU
RESPOND TO THAT?
AT THAT POINT I WENT TO THE 
DRESSING ROOM AND I HAD HAD 
ENOUGH.
I DECIDED TO MYSELF THAT THIS 
EVENING SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
I REMEMBER SAYING EITHER YOU'RE 
GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO ME OR I'M 
GOING TO KICK THE YOU KNOW WHAT 
OUT OF YOU.
HIS RESPONSE WAS, HAH, ME 
APOLOGIZE TO YOU?
AND I THINK I MAY HAVE TRIED TO 
THROW A PUNCH AT HIM.
I REMEMBER HIM COMING TOWARD ME 
AT WHICH POINT I KICKED OUT AT 
HIM.
I JUST REMEMBER HIM, YOU KNOW, 
FALLING TO THE GROUND AND ME 
BEING IN DISBELIEF OF WHAT HAD 
HAPPENED.
NEVERTHELESS, I'M RESPONSIBLE 
FOR IT, WHETHER IT BE THAT HE 
WAS ANTICIPATING THE KICK AND IT
MADE HIM VOMIT, WHICH HE CHOKED 
ON, WHICH HE CHOKED ON HIS 
VOMIT.
IT WAS BEFORE THE KICK LANDED, 
BUT THERE WAS NEVER A MARK ON 
HIS BODY.
THAT DAY MY LIFE CHANGED.
I WAS NO LONGER A KID.
MY DAY WAS GONE.
I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF
THE MAGNITUDE OR GRAVITY OF THE 
SITUATION.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
PROCESSES THAT TOOK PLACE.
I WAS A 16-YEAR-OLD KID.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF 
IT, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT I 
KNEW SOMEONE WAS FIGHTING FOR 
ME.
>> BLACK LIVES MATTER!
>> WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE U.S. 
RIGHT NOW IS SOMEWHAT 
BITTERSWEET.
YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN
GOING ON FOR A VERY, VERY LONG 
TIME.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS
THE FACT THAT WE'RE RECORDING 
THEM.
MAYBE WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH, AND I 
ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THIS IS THAT 
MOMENT IN TIME FOR CHANGE.
WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE 
UNITED STATES WHEN IT COMES TO 
RACISM, WE'RE NOT.
BUT THE UNDERLYING CURRENT HERE 
IN CANADA OF RACISM IS FAR MORE 
DANGEROUS BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T
SEE IT COMING.
I BELIEVE THAT RACISM BEGINS IN 
THE HOME, AND I THINK WE NEED TO
BE REALLY MINDFUL OF OUR WORDS, 
OUR CHOICE OF WORDS, BECAUSE 
WORDS MATTER.
I AM JUST A SEGUE INTO THIS IS 
WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE THEN, THIS 
IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
AND IT REALLY ISN'T ANY 
DIFFERENCE, BUT WE HAVE A CHANCE
FOR CHANGE.
THAT'S IT.
>> Andrew: WORTH LISTENING TO 
AND THINKING ABOUT AGAIN AND 
AGAIN.
WHEN WE COME BACK, AFTER MONTHS 
OFF THE SET, THE CANADIAN FILM 
AND TV INDUSTRY IS GETTING BACK 
TO WORK.
FROM THE CAMERAS TO THE MASKS, 
WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE
NEW NORMAL LOOKS LIKE.
>> Andrew: WELL, IN SEVERAL 
PROVINCES THE FILM AND TV 
INDUSTRY IS STARTING BACK UP 
AGAIN.
ACCOMMODATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO
KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, BUT AS ELI 
GLASNER EXPLAINS, SOME 
PRODUCTIONS STILL FACE ONE MAJOR
HURDLE THAT ONLY OTTAWA CAN HELP
THEM CLEAR.
>> Reporter: TWO HOURS NORTH OF 
WINNIPEG, "DR. KERI PRAIRIE VET"
IS ONE OF THE FIRST SHOWS TO 
RESUME FILMING, BUT IN THIS NEW 
NORMAL, IT'S LIGHTS, CAMERA, 
CAUTION.
>> EVERYTHING IS CLEANED AND 
SANITIZERS AND MASKS ARE MADE 
AVAILABLE TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON
WHO COMES INTO CONTACT WITH US.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE MAKING AN 
EFFORT TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF 
THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
>> Reporter: THE PRODUCER OF 
CBC'S "BURDEN OF TRUTH" SAYS 
COVID IS EVEN CHANGING WHAT 
WRITERS WRITE. 
>> WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO THEIR 
BEST TO WRITE US THINGS THAT CAN
BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE NEW 
PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES WITHOUT
AFFECTING THE CREATIVE TOO MUCH.
>> ALL OF THESE WALLS CAN SHOOT 
UP INTO THE CEILING. 
>> Reporter: IN VANCOUVER, WHERE
MANY AMERICAN SHOWS ARE SHOT, 
THE BORDER IS OPEN FOR PEOPLE 
WITH VALID WORK PERMITS.
ALTHOUGH THEY STILL HAVE TO 
QUARANTINE FOR 14 DAYS. 
>> SO THESE ARE ALL PATIENT 
ROOMS HERE. 
>> Reporter: AS "THE GOOD 
DOCTOR" GETS READY TO RESUME 
SHOOTING SOON, PRODUCER SHAWN 
WILLIAMSON SAYS THEY ARE USING 
MORE SPACE AND USING REMOTE 
CAMERAS TO KEEP CREWS SAFE.
>> WE VERY OFTEN WOULD CRAM 25 
PEOPLE INTO A SMALL ROOM LIKE 
THIS, NOW WE'LL CRAM IN THREE 
PEOPLE. 
>> Reporter: WITH RELATIVELY FEW
COVID CASES, VANCOUVER IS IN 
DEMAND.
BUT THEY'RE STILL STRUGGLING 
WITH NOW TO FILM INTIMATE SCENES
SAFELY. 
>> YOU SANITIZE HANDS AND YOU 
CAN HOLD HANDS BECAUSE 
EFFECTIVELY YOUR HANDS ARE NOW 
CLEAN AND CLEAR OF THE VIRUS.
BUT KISSING IS A DIFFERENT 
THING.
>> Reporter: BUT FOR PRODUCTIONS
THAT DIDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT 
BEFORE THE COVID SHUTDOWN, 
THERE'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. 
>> INSURANCE. 
>> INSURANCE. 
>> INSURANCE.
>> Reporter: INSURANCE COMPANIES
ARE REFUSING TO COVER ANY FUTURE
PANDEMIC-RELATED CLAIMS.
THE CANADIAN MEDIA PRODUCERS 
ASSOCIATION HAS PROPOSED THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDERWRITE A 
NEW FUND PRODUCERS WOULD PAY 
INTO. 
>> WE HAVE TO SORT IT.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE.
A HUGE CHUNK OF PRODUCTION WON'T
HAPPEN WITHOUT IT.
>> Reporter: WITH THE PRODUCERS 
ASSOCIATION ESTIMATING BILLIONS 
OF DOLLARS OF WORK COULD BE 
LOST, IT SAYS OTTAWA NEEDS TO 
MOVE FAST OR THOSE CAMERAS WILL 
ROLL ELSEWHERE.
ELI GLASNER, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. 
>> Andrew: FOR ALL THOSE THINGS 
THIS PANDEMIC HAS CHANGED ABOUT 
OUR DAILY LIVES, WE HAVE OFTEN 
GOTTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE PLACE
IN PARTICULAR.
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AS PEOPLE GET OUT OF THEIR HOMES
AND INCREASINGLY INTO PUBLIC 
SPACES, PUBLIC BATHROOMS WILL 
GET BUSIER AS WELL.
SO THE QUESTION YOU MIGHT HAVE, 
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING 
SICK INSIDE OF ONE?
>> WELL, THERE'S OBVIOUS RISK OF
THE DOORKNOB AND THE TAP HANDLES
AND ALL THE HIGH-TOUCH SURFACES.
>> Andrew: SO STANDARD RULES 
APPLY, TOUCH AS FEW THINGS AS 
POSSIBLE.
BUT IS THE TOILET POTENTIALLY 
STIRRING UP AND SPREADING THE 
VIRUS?
>> THERE HAS BEEN VIRUS FOUND IN
FECES.
IT'S USUALLY FRAGMENT VIRUS AND 
IT'S UNCLEAR IF IT'S INFECTED 
AND IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE PEOPLE 
ARE SWALLOWING SALIVA OR MUCOUS.
AND THEN IT'S FOUND IN THE FECES
FOR THAT REASON.
>> Andrew: SO MAYBE THE VIRUS IN
THE TOILET ISN'T VIABLE TO BEGIN
WITH, AND EVEN IF YOU FLUSH AND 
STIR IT UP, YOU AREN'T REALLY
INHALING IT.
YOU'RE SMELLING IT, SURE, BUT 
THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THE VIRUS DOESN'T TRAVEL VIA 
SMELL.
THOSE PARTICLES ARE MUCH TOO 
SMALL.
SO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE LID IF
YOU WANT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE?
>> WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY 
EPIDEMIOLOGIC SUGGESTION THAT 
IT'S SPREAD THROUGH FECES.
>> Adrienne: AFTER THE BREAK, A 
REUNION THREE MONTHS IN THE 
MAKING.
>> Andrew: AS NEWFOUNDLAND AND 
LABRADOR EASES SOME OF ITS 
COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, MORE 
SCENES LIKE THIS IN TONIGHT'S 
"MOMENT."
>> Adrienne: AS THINGS START TO 
REOPEN IN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY 
AFTER MONTHS OF LOCKDOWN, SOME 
FAMILIES ARE GETTING A RARE 
CHANCE TO REUNITE.
IN NEWFOUNDLAND, RESIDENTS AT 
THIS RETIREMENT CENTRE WERE ABLE
TO SEE AND HUG ONE FAMILY MEMBER
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS, 
AND THAT MAGIC MOMENT IS OUR 
"MOMENT."
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>> I HAVEN'T HAD A HUG IN SO 
LONG!
>> FOR SURE.
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN MOM SINCE -- 
HERE WE GO.
OH, MY GOSH.
LAST TIME I SAW MY MOM WAS 
PROBABLY A WEEK OR TWO JUST 
BEFORE THE COVID STARTED.
AS YOU CAN TELL, I'M OVERLY 
EXCITED AND NERVOUS AND IT WILL 
BE GREAT.
>> WANT TO GET ON CAMERA, THAT 
MOMENT OF -- LOOK AT YOU ALL 
PRETTY IN YELLOW.
>> SO I'M GOING TO BRING BETTY 
TO THE DOOR.
>> YOU KNOW I'VE NEVER EATEN 
GELATO, BUT . . . 
[CRYING]. 
[APPLAUSE]
>> OH, THAT'S A GOOD HUG.
>> Adrienne: OH, THAT'S A GOOD 
HUG.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE FRIENDS WITH 
FAMILY IN NURSING HOMES, AND 
THEY DESCRIBE THIS AS BEING 
TORTUROUS, THIS WHOLE PROCESS 
HAS BEEN HORRIBLE AND THEY ARE 
REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE MENTAL 
HEALTH OF PEOPLE BECOMING A 
PHYSICAL HEALTH PROBLEM, SO 
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS 
FANTASTIC.
>> Andrew: YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, 
IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE HAD 
THINGS LIKE VIDEO CONFERENCING 
TO KIND OF TIDE US OVER, BUT IT 
DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO HOLD A 
CANDLE TO THE PHYSICAL TOUCH, 
THAT SIMPLE HUG.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR THIS 
THURSDAY, JUNE 11.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
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