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[SIRENS]
>> Ian: THE CALM OF SUNDAY
MORNING IN RURAL NOVA SCOTIA
PIERCED BY SIRENS.
THE CHASE FOR A GUNMAN WHO LEFT
UNTOLD DEVASTATION IN HIS WAKE.
WHEN IT ENDED HE WAS DEAD.
SO WERE AT LEAST 16 OTHERS,
INCLUDING AN RCMP OFFICER,
LEAVING FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES,
SHATTERED.
>> TWO CHILDREN HAVE LOST THEIR
MOTHER.
AND A HUSBAND HAS LOST HIS WIFE.
>> Ian: A NATIONAL TRAGEDY IN
THE MIDDLE OF A GLOBAL CRISIS.
>>> GOOD EVENING, I'M IAN
HANOMANSING.
TONIGHT EXTENSIVE COVERAGE OF
THE NOVA SCOTIA SHOOTINGS, HOW
THE TRAGEDY UNFOLDED, THE
VICTIMS LOST, AND THE
COMMUNITIES GRIEVING AND THE
RCMP COMMISSIONER WITH THE
LATEST.
>> WE HAVE MULTIPLE SCENES
SPREADING OVER AT LEAST 50
KILOMETRES -- BUILDINGS,
VEHICLES.
>> Ian: PLUS, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED
ABOUT THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE DEADLIEST MASS SHOOTING IN
CANADIAN HISTORY.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> THEY GOT HIM ON LOCKDOWN,
THEY'RE GOING FOR HIM RIGHT NOW.
THEY'VE GOT THE KILLER RIGHT
HERE.
OH, THEY GOT HIM, BUD.
THEY SHOT HIM.
I HEARD THE FOUR SHOTS.
>> Ian: THIS VIDEO APPEARS TO
CAPTURE THE DRAMATIC FINAL
CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE POLICE
AND THE GUNMAN.
AFTER HIS 12-HOUR SHOOTING SPREE
KILLED AT LEAST
16 PEOPLE, INCLUDING A VETERAN
POLICE OFFICER, AND LEFT
TRAUMATIC
AFTERSHOCKS IN THIS QUIET PART
OF THE COUNTRY WHERE FAMILIES
HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR
GENERATIONS AND EVEN
LEAVE DOORS UNLOCKED.
TONIGHT WE'LL SHARE EVERYTHING
THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THIS
SENSELESS ACT, NOW THE
DEADLIEST MASS SHOOTINGS IN
CANADIAN HISTORY.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE LIVES LOST AND
THE SHOOTER WHOSE ACTIONS HAVE
LEFT SEVERAL COMMUNITIES
DEVASTATED.
IT ALL BEGAN IN PORTAPIQUE,
ABOUT 90 MINUTES NORTH OF
HALIFAX.
PEOPLE IN AND AROUND THAT
COMMUNITY STILL REELING IN SHOCK
TONIGHT.
AS ARE THE RESIDENTS OF ENFIELD
WHERE IT FINALLY ENDED.
TOM MURPHY BEGINS OUR COVERAGE
WITH A LOOK AT
WHAT HAPPENED AND WHEN.
>> Reporter: IT ALL STARTED
WITH MULTIPLE FIREARM CALLS AT A
PORTAPIQUE HOUSE DOWN THIS
COUNTRY ROAD.
>> SEVERAL CASUALTIES INSIDE AND
OUTSIDE OF THE HOME.
THIS WAS A VERY QUICKLY EVOLVING
SITUATION AND A CHAOTIC SCENE.
>> Reporter: THAT WAS AROUND
11:30 p.m. ON SATURDAY.
MINUTES LATER POLICE ORDERED
PEOPLE IN THE PORTAPIQUE AREA TO
LOCK THEMSELVES IN THEIR HOMES.
NEARBY RESIDENT MIKE MCKAY SAW
THE POLICE CARS COMING AND
SEVERAL BUILDINGS BURNING.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON EDGE,
IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, AND THINKING, WELL,
YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO CROSS THE
RIVER -- I HAVEN'T SLEPT.
>> Reporter: BY MORNING POLICE
RELEASED THE SHOOTER'S NAME AND
PICTURE.
NEIGHBOURS ARE
SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT IT'S THE
NORMALLY MILD-MANNERED GABRIEL
WORTMAN.
POLICE REPORTED THAT THERE ARE
SEVERAL VICTIMS.
AROUND 9:45 a.m., CBC LEARNED
OF ANOTHER HOUSE FIRE NORTH OF
PORTAPIQUE IN THE COMMUNITY OF
WENTWORTH.
POLICE AREN'T OFFERING ANY
DETAILS ON THAT.
SHORTLY AFTER 10:00 a.m.
POLICE WARNED THAT WORTMAN WAS
ON THE MOVE AGAIN, MAKING HIS
WAY IN THE DIRECTION OF HALIFAX.
HE WAS SPOTTED IN THE BROOKFIELD
AREA, WEARING WHAT APPEARED TO
BE AN
RCMP UNIFORM AND DRIVING WHAT
LOOKED TO BE A POLICE CRUISER, A
MOCK-UP.
WORTMAN HAD NO RCMP AFFILIATION
AND POLICE DESCRIBED HIM AS
ARMED AND DANGEROUS.
>> THE FACT THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL
HAD A UNIFORM AND A POLICE CAR
AT HIS DISPOSAL SPEAKS TO IT NOT
BEING A RANDOM ACT.
>> Reporter: VIDEO SURFACED ON
SOCIAL MEDIA APPEARING TO SHOW
POLICE CARS ON FIRE IN THE
SCHUBANACADIE AREA, AND IT
ALSO APPEARS TO SHOW OFFICERS
APPROACHING THE VEHICLES.
THEN JUST BEFORE NOON POLICE
WARNED
THE PUBLIC THAT WORTMAN WAS NOW
DRIVING A SILVER CHEVY TRACTOR
S.U.V.
DARCY SACK SAID SHE SAW HIM.
>> WE DID NOT REALIZE THAT IT
WAS HIM UNTIL WE SAW FOUR POLICE
CARS BEHIND HIM.
HE WAS JUST LOOKING LIKE A
POLICE OFFICER HIMSELF.
HE LOOKED LIKE, I MEAN, HE WAS
OKAY, TO BE HONEST.
LIKE, HE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE HE WAS
IN ANY TYPE OF RUSH.
HE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT HE WAS
WORRIED.
>> Reporter: MOMENTS LATER
POLICE SAID THEY HAD CORNERED
WORTMAN AT AN IRVING BIG STOP IN
ENFIELD,
12 HOURS AFTER AND 92 KILOMETRES
AWAY FROM WHERE IT
ALL SEEMS TO HAVE BEGUN.
TOM MURPHY, CBC NEWS, HALIFAX.
>> Ian: ONE OF THE THINGS
MISSING IN THIS STORY TONIGHT
IS THE NAMES OF THE 15 CIVILIANS
WHO WERE KILLED, VICTIMS OF THE
DEADLIEST MASS SHOOTING IN
CANADA.
OFFICIALS STILL HAVEN'T MADE
THOSE NAMES PUBLIC AND TONIGHT
PEOPLE IN AND AROUND PORTAPIQUE
ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND OUT EVEN
THE MOST BASIC INFORMATION.
SHANIA LUCK IS THERE.
>> Reporter: THIS MORNING,
DAVE BROWN WAS SHELTERING IN HIS
HOME.
BUT BY THE AFTERNOON HIS GRIEF
BROUGHT HIM OUTSIDE TO DISPLAY
HIS HEART ON HIS SLEEVE.
>> WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS
WE'VE GOT TO RALLY TOGETHER AS
PEOPLE, AND LOVED ONES IN THE
COMMUNITY AND JUST SHOW
EVERYBODY THAT
BAD THINGS HAPPEN BUT THERE'S
STILL GOOD PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT?
>> Interview: THIS TINY
SEASIDE COMMUNITY HOLDS ONLY
ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE, A
SMATTERING OF
HOUSES ON THE NORTHERN SHORE OF
THE BAY OF FUNDY.
BUT DEEP IN THE NIGHT PEOPLE ON
THIS QUIET ROAD WOKE TO SEE
THINGS THEY NEVER EXPECTED.
AN ARMOURED POLICE CAR AND
OFFICERS WITH GUNS DRAWN RACING
IN EVERY DIRECTION.
AND ACROSS THE BAY SOMETHING
UNSETTLING.
>> PRETTY LARGE HOUSE FIRES,
YES.
AND SOME EXPLOSIONS.
YOU KNOW, GAS TANKS AND PROPANE
TANKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> Reporter: THE RCMP HAVE
LOST ONE OFFICER AND ANOTHER IS
INJURED.
THE DEAD OFFICER IS CONSTABLE
HEIDI STEVENSON, A 23-YEAR
VETERAN OF THE FORCE.
>> TWO CHILDREN HAVE LOST THEIR
MOTHER, AND A HUSBAND HAS LOST
HIS WIFE.
PARENTS HAVE LOST THEIR DAUGHTER
AND COUNTLESS OTHERS LOST AN
INCREDIBLE FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE.
>> Reporter: DETAILS ABOUT
VICTIMS ARE STILL EMERGING AND
SOME ARE STILL WAITING TO FIND
OUT IF THEIR LOVED ONES WERE
CAUGHT UP IN THE GUNMAN'S
RAMPAGE.
>> WORDS CANNOT CONSOLE THE
FAMILIES AFFECTED BY WHAT HAS
TRANSPIRED OVER THE LAST 24
HOURS.
>> Reporter: BACK IN
PORTAPIQUE, THE COMMUNITY IS
REELING.
THEY AREN'T EVEN SURE WHO AMONG
THEIR NEIGHBOURS IS DEAD.
>> IF IT'S THE LADY THAT -- WHO
WE THINK THAT IT IS -- LIKE I'VE
MET HER A COUPLE TIMES AND, YOU
KNOW, ALWAYS WALKING AROUND WITH
A SMILE ON HER FACE EVERY TIME
THAT I'VE SEEN HER.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S REAL -- YOU
KNOW, IT'S SADDENED, VERY
SADDENED.
>> Reporter: PEOPLE IN
PORTAPIQUE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
WAIT A BIT LONGER FOR ANSWERS.
POLICE SAID THIS AFTERNOON
THEY'RE JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF
A LONG AND COMPLICATED
INVESTIGATION.
THERE'S ALSO A SECONDARY
INVESTIGATION BY THE AGENCY THAT
STEPS IN WHENEVER SOMEONE IS
INJURED OR KILLED DURING POLICE
ACTIVITY.
SHANIA LUCK, CBC NEWS,
PORTAPIQUE, NOVA SCOTIA.
>> Ian: THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE GUNMAN.
WE KNOW THAT HE WAS FAMILIAR TO
PEOPLE IN THE AREA, BUT NO ONE
SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT HIS MOTIVE
COULD POSSIBLY BE.
AND AMONG THE MYSTERIES, WHY HE
TRIED TO PASS HIMSELF OFF AS A
POLICE OFFICER.
KAYLA HOUNSELL HAS BEEN PUTTING
TOGETHER A FULLER PICTURE.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS GABRIEL
WORTMAN AND I'M A LICENSED
DENTURIST HERE IN THE PROVINCE
OF NOVA SCOTIA.
>> Reporter: 51-YEAR-OLD
GABRIEL WORTMAN
IS ALSO THE MAN THAT POLICE SAY
THAT
WENT ON A 12-HOUR SHOOTING SPREE
KILLING AT LEAST 16 PEOPLE.
>> I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND
IT.
>> Reporter: CHERYL TILTON WAS
ONE OF HIS PATIENTS AT HIS
DARTMOUTH CLINIC, WHERE HIS WIFE
ALSO WORKED.
>> HE TREATED ME LIKE FAMILY.
HIM AND HIS WIFE WERE JOKING
AROUND ALL THE TIME.
MADE YOU FEEL GREAT.
BY THE TIME THAT I LEFT THERE I
WAS IN A BETTER MOOD.
>> Reporter: I INTERVIEWED
WORTMAN FOR ANOTHER NETWORK IN
2014 OVER DENTURES THAT HE HAD
DONATED.
>> HE WAS KNOWN FOR HIS BIKE --
>> Reporter: LORETTA PARLEE
WENT TO HIGH
SCHOOL WITH GABRIEL WORTMAN AND
SAID THIS IS HIS YEARBOOK PHOTO.
>> HE DID HIS HIGH SCHOOL
BIOGRAPHY ABOUT WANTING TO BE IN
THE RCMP.
HE BRIEFLY SAID IN PASSING ABOUT
HOW EVERY TEENAGER TALKS ABOUT
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ONCE THEY
ARE OUT OF SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE MENTIONED,
YOU KNOW, BEING A POLICE
OFFICER.
>> Reporter: TODAY THE RCMP
DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT WORTMAN'S MOTIVATION,
WHETHER HE WAS KNOWN TO POLICE
OR THE RELATIONSHIP TO HIS
VICTIMS.
EXCEPT THAT SOME OF THEM
APPEARED TO BE CHOSEN RANDOMLY.
>> I'M SORRY, DUE TO PRIVACY
REASONS, I'M NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VICTIMS
OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT THERE
WERE SOME THAT APPEARED TO NOT
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
ASSAILANT, THE SHOOTER.
>> Reporter: ALL OF IT IS SO
HARD TO BELIEVE FOR CHERYL
TILTON.
>> HONESTLY IF HE HAD SHOWN UP
AT MY DOOR
WITHOUT KNOWING ANY OF THIS, I
WOULD HAVE JUST INVITED HIM IN.
>> Reporter: RCMP CONFIRM THAT
WORTMAN IS NOW DEAD.
KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS,
HALIFAX.
>> Ian: SO AS YOU SAW THE NOVA
SCOTIA RCMP ARE ADDRESSING THE
MEDIA THIS EVENING.
AND HERE'S A
BIT MORE OF WHAT WAS SOMETIMES
AN EMOTIONAL NEWS CONFERENCE.
>> TODAY IS A DEVASTATING DAY
FOR NOVA SCOTIA AND IT WILL
REMAIN ETCHED IN THE MINDS OF
MANY FOR YEARS TO COME.
WHAT HAS UNFOLDED OVERNIGHT AND
INTO THIS MORNING IS
INCOMPREHENSIBLE AND MANY
FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING A LOSS
OF A LOVED ONE.
THAT INCLUDES OUR OWN RCMP
FAMILY.
IT'S WITH TREMENDOUS SADNESS
THAT I SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE
HAVE LOST CONSTABLE HEIDI
STEVENSON, A 23-YEAR VETERAN OF
THE FORCE, WHO WAS KILLED THIS
MORNING WHILE RESPONDING TO AN
ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENT.
HEIDI ANSWERED THE CALL OF DUTY
AND LOST HER LIFE WHILE
PROTECTING THOSE SHE SERVED.
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON I MET
WITH HEIDI'S FAMILY AND THERE
ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THEIR
PAIN.
TWO CHILDREN HAVE LOST THEIR
MOTHER.
AND A HUSBAND HAS LOST HIS WIFE.
PARENTS HAVE LOST THEIR
DAUGHTER.
AND COUNTLESS OTHERS LOST AN
INCREDIBLE FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE.
THIS TRAGIC INCIDENT HAS ALSO
RESULTED IN MANY VICTIMS OUTSIDE
OF THE RCMP.
COUNTLESS FAMILIES ARE IN
MOURNING TODAY, EACH PERSON WHO
LOST THEIR FAMILY AND FRIEND AND
THEY TOO WILL NEED THEIR
SUPPORT.
THE IMPACT OF THIS INCIDENT WILL
EXTEND FROM ONE END OF THE
PROVINCE TO THE OTHER.
AS NOVA SCOTIANS WE HAVE TO DO
WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR AND COME
TOGETHER IN TIMES OF NEED AND
SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
>> Ian: AND THE RCMP
COMMISSIONER BRENDA LUCKI IS
JOINING US NOW FROM OTTAWA.
COMMISSIONER LUCKI, OUR
CONDOLENCES ON THIS TERRIBLE DAY
IN NOVA SCOTIA.
WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE FOR YOUR
MEMBERS AND FOR CANADIANS?
>> MY HEART IS BROKEN TODAY.
NOT ONLY FOR THE LOSS OF OUR
MEMBER, AND ONE OF OUR MEMBERS
BEING INJURED, BUT FOR THE
ENTIRE PROVINCE OF NOVA SCOTIA.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE RCMP
FAMILY, IT'S THAT WE'RE PART OF
A BIGGER FAMILY IN EACH
COMMUNITY.
AND SO THE ENTIRE PROVINCE IS
GOING TO BE GRIEVING.
AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM.
>> Ian: THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
KILLED IS STAGGERING, OBVIOUSLY.
WHAT LITTLE WE'RE HEARING ABOUT
THE CIRCUMSTANCES ALSO IS HARD
TO IMAGINE AT ANY PLACE, BUT
ESPECIALLY IN RURAL NOVA SCOTIA.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT
THIS GUNMAN APPARENTLY DID?
>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT
STARTED AGAIN AROUND LAST NIGHT
JUST AFTER 10:00.
AFTER MULTIPLE 911 CALLS.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE SCENES
SPREADING OVER AT LEAST 50
KILOMETRES -- BUILDINGS,
VEHICLES.
>> Ian: ONE OF YOUR SENIOR
OFFICERS IN NOVA SCOTIA SAID
THAT SOME OF THE VICTIMS HERE
WERE APPARENTLY CHOSEN AT
RANDOM.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT I
BELIEVE THAT AT THE BEGINNING
THAT THERE WAS AN INITIAL
MOTIVATION.
AND THEN I THINK THAT IT TURNED
TO RANDOMNESS.
AND OUR INVESTIGATION WILL TELL
THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A
LOT OF WORK ON FINDING THE
MOTIVATION, A LOT OF BACKGROUND,
A LOT OF PROFILING TYPE OF
EVENTS AND A LOT OF CRIME SCENE
PROCESSING.
>> Ian: WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL,
OF COURSE, TO SEPARATE RUMOUR
FROM FACT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE EMAILS
GOING AMONG THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
POLICE OFFICERS.
AND I SAW ONE WHERE ONE OFFICER
DESCRIBES WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT
THIS AS PURE EVIL.
DOES THAT LINE UP WITH WHAT YOU
KNOW ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
>> ANYTIME THAT WE LOSE A LIFE
IT'S ONE TOO MANY LIVES.
AND UNTIL WE FIND OUT EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED, IT'S HARD TO
DESCRIBE.
BUT I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S JUST A
BIG HUGE TRAGEDY FOR OUR COUNTRY
TODAY.
AND THERE'S NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE
IT.
>> Ian: AND THE TASK FORCE, THE
RCMP IS PART OF THAT
INVESTIGATES POTENTIAL TERROR
ATTACKS.
IS IT INVOLVED IN THE
INVESTIGATION HERE AT ALL?
>> NO, WE'RE USING OUR RESOURCES
THAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND THAT
WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED BY
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THE
FORENSICS.
AND PROBABLY IN THE PROFILING
AREA.
AND DOING OUR GENERAL
INVESTIGATION AS A MURDER,
MULTIPLE MURDERS.
AND WE'LL BE USING ALL TYPES OF
RESOURCES.
WHATEVER IT TAKES SO THAT WE CAN
GIVE THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS
ANSWERS TO THE MANY QUESTIONS
THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE.
>> Ian: WITH JUST SECONDS LEFT
HERE JUST TO CLARIFY -- YOU
DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THIS IS TERROR
RELATED THEN?
>> NOT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NOT AT
THIS POINT.
>> Ian: OKAY, COMMISSIONER
LUCKI, A DIFFICULT DAY FOR
NOVA SCOTIANS AND FOR CANADIANS
AND CERTAINLY FOR THE RCMP.
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ian: THERE HAS BEEN REACTION
FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ANITA BATHE IS GATHERING THAT IN
OUR VANCOUVER NEWSROOM.
ANITA?
>> Reporter: IAN, THE NEWS OF
THIS TRAGEDY IS EMOTIONAL FOR
PEOPLE EVERYWHERE IN CANADA.
IN A STATEMENT JUSTIN TRUDEAU
SAYS THAT HE'S SADDENED TO LEARN
ABOUT THE SENSELESS VIOLENCE.
EVERY DAY LAW ENFORCEMENT
MEMBERS PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S
WAY TO ENSURE OUR SAFETY AND
WELL-BEING.
AS A COUNTRY IN MOMENTS THAT
LIKE THESE WE COME TOGETHER TO
SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
TOGETHER WE WILL MOURN
WITH THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS
AND HELP THEM TO GET THROUGH
THIS DIFFICULT TIME.
CANADA'S GOVERNOR-GENERAL SAYS
SHE IS DEVASTATED BY THE
SHOOTINGS.
>> OUR HEART GOES OUT TO THE
FAMILY OF CONSTABLE STEVENSON.
I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE
RCMP OFFICERS THAT WORK WITH ME
DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
IT'S A BIG FAMILY.
AND WE FEEL TERRIBLE WITH THIS
LOSS OF LIFE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS.
MY CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF THOSE
AFFECTED.
>> Reporter: HERE IN B.C., WE
ARE FAR AWAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU
THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED
HAVE HIT HOME.
PREMIER JOHN HORGAN CALLING IT A
SENSELESS ATTACK AND ADDING,
"THE HEARTS OF BRITISH
COLUMBIANS ARE WITH ALL OF THE
VICTIMS."
BUT, REALLY, IAN, WE HAVE A
WHOLE COUNTRY STANDING WITH NOVA
SCOTIANS TONIGHT.
MANY ARE HEARTBROKEN KNOWING HOW
HARD IT WILL BE TO MOURN THE
VICTIMS UNDER THIS TIME OF
PHYSICAL DISTANCING AND
COVID-19.
>> Ian: ALL RIGHT, ANITA, THANK
YOU.
>>> THIS IS AN UNIMAGINABLE
TRAGEDY FOR THE COMMUNITIES
AFFECTED.
MORE MURDERS IN ONE
DAY THAN NOVA SCOTIA EXPERIENCED
IN ALL OF 2018.
THESE ARE RURAL AREAS WHERE
EVERYONE KNOWS THEIR NEIGHBOUR.
AND AS TWO LOCAL POLITICIANS
TELL US THEY'RE NOW STRUGGLING
TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD
HAPPEN JUST OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES.
>> PEOPLE LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY
FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IN A NICE
LITTLE RURAL COMMUNITY WHERE
EVERYBODY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FOR
THE MOST PART KNOWS EVERYBODY.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE
SHOCKED.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE REALLY
KNOW WHAT TO THINK.
THIS IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE THIS
COULD HAPPEN IN OUR -- IN ANY
RURAL COMMUNITY IN NOVA SCOTIA.
IT WILL BE DIFFERENT, I TELL YOU
THAT RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND
HERE WHO PROBABLY DON'T LOCK
THEIR DOORS AND THEY LIVED HERE
ALL THEIR LIFE.
YOU KNOW, THEY LEAVE WHATEVER
SITTING OUT ON THE SIDE -- YOU
KNOW, THERE'S NO CONCERN.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COVID BEING
A NEW LIFE, THIS IS A NEW LIFE
AND A NEW REALITY FOR US TODAY.
>> YOU HEAR THAT KIND OF NEWS
AND YOU DON'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT
THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE IN THIS
PROVINCE IN A RURAL AREA.
IT JUST -- YOU THINK THAT IT
MIGHT HAPPEN IN BIG CITIES
SOMEWHERE, BUT NOT HERE.
COMMUNITIES ARE SO TIGHTLY KNIT
THAT THIS KIND OF A DEVASTATION
HITS EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT JUST THAT COMMUNITY
THAT IS AFFECTED.
IT AFFECTS ALL OF US NOW.
I HOPE AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO MAYBE MAKE A
PHONE CALL AND SEND AN EMAIL, A
CARD, ANYTHING THAT LETS THAT
FAMILY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS ALONE.
A WHOLE COMMUNITY IS THERE FOR
THEM.
>> Ian: SO WHAT WILL THE IMPACT
OF THESE HORRIFIC MURDERS BE IN
A PLACE USUALLY SO QUIET AND
FRIENDLY?
TOM MURPHY IS THE HOST OF CBC
NEWS NOVA SCOTIA AND KNOWS THE
MARITIMES INSIDE OUT.
AND, TOM, AS YOU COVERED THIS
STORY TODAY YOU WERE SPEAKING TO
PEOPLE.
WHAT DID YOU HEAR?
>> Tom: YEAH, I TALKED TO A
NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN PORTAPIQUE,
WHERE THIS ALL STARTED.
ABSOLUTELY GOB-SMACKED ABOUT
THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THEIR
COMMUNITY.
THEY KNEW THIS GUY AS A GOOD
COMMUNITY GUY, A FRIENDLY GUY.
YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS GUY WAS
A DENTURIST WHO QUITE LITERALLY
PUT SMILES ON PEOPLE'S FACES,
EMPOWERED THEM, AND MADE THEM
FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES
WITH THE DENTURE WORK.
HERE WE HAVE A GUY WHO HAS
BROUGHT AN
UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF FEAR AND
GRIEF AND
REALLY CONCERN TO THEIR
COMMUNITY.
THEY JUST CANNOT PUT TOGETHER
THE
TWO PERSONALITIES INVOLVED HERE.
ABSOLUTELY FLOORED BY WHAT
HAPPENED TODAY.
>> Ian: YEAH.
AND WE WERE HOPING
THAT MAYBE WE'D GET SOME CLARITY
IN THAT NEWS CONFERENCE THIS
EVENING, BUT EVEN THE RCMP SAY
THEY DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND OR
UNDERSTAND AT ALL THE MOTIVE.
SIX YEARS AGO, TOM, THOSE
HORRIFIC RCMP MURDERS IN MONCTON
AND YOU COVERED THOSE.
ARE YOU SEEING A PARALLEL IN
TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON THE
COMMUNITY?
>> Tom: YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF
FIRST TIMES IN THIS PART OF THE
COUNTRY WHICH IS NORMALLY VERY
QUIET ON THIS KIND OF A THING
WHEN PEOPLE FELT THAT FEAR.
YOU KNOW, FOR HOURS AT A TIME.
THAT SAME KIND OF FEAR WAS FELT
IN NOVA SCOTIA FOR A 12-HOUR
PERIOD HERE TODAY AND LAST
NIGHT.
ALSO, OF COURSE, THE LOSS OF
INNOCENCE, THAT'S WHAT COMES
NEXT.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LAUGH -- AND I
WAS SAYING TODAY THAT PEOPLE
LIKE TO SLEEP WITH THEIR WINDOWS
OPEN AND THE DOORS UNLOCKED IN
MANY PARTS OF NOVA SCOTIA.
SOME PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING THAT
NOW, WHETHER THAT IS THE THING
TO DO.
REALLY TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS
WITH WHAT HAPPENED AND THIS WILL
TAKE DAYS FOR THEM TO DISSECT
IT.
AND REALLY SOME OF THE FAMILIES
TOO, ON FACEBOOK, FOR EXAMPLE,
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING AFAR ARE
TRYING TO FIND OUT HAS ANYONE
SEEN MY PARENTS.
YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS LIVE ON
THIS PART AND THIS PART OF THE
COMMUNITY, DID YOU SEE THEM.
SO THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF
RIPPLES TO THIS WHOLE STORY
THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
IT'S REALLY PAINFUL TO WATCH IT
PLAY OUT.
>> Ian: AND SO MUCH MORE TO FIND
OUT.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND
KAYLA WILL LEAD OUR COVERAGE IN
THE COMING DAYS, TOM, THANK YOU.
>> Tom: THANK YOU, IAN.
>> Ian: WE'LL CHECK IN WITH THE
OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY NEXT AND
STILL AHEAD, MORE ON THIS
DEVASTATING DAY IN NOVA SCOTIA.
>> IT APPEARS TO BE AT LEAST IN
PART VERY RANDOM.
>> Ian: INVESTIGATING A TRAGEDY
AND FOLLOWING A KILLER'S CHAOTIC
PATH OVER MULTIPLE CRIME SCENES.
WE GET AN INSIDER'S LOOK AT HOW
INVESTIGATORS ARE LIKELY WORKING
THIS CASE.
>> * I WILL HAVE 
* TO CLIMB 
>> Ian: FINDING WAYS TO COME
TOGETHER DURING A TRAGEDY WHILE
BEING SEPARATED BY A GLOBAL
CRISIS.
WE'RE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
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>> Ian: WELCOME BACK.
WE WILL BE RETURNING TO OUR TOP
STORY, THE MASS MURDER IN NOVA
SCOTIA AND THE DEATHS OF 16
PEOPLE BEING MOURNED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY TONIGHT.
AHEAD HOW INVESTIGATORS ARE
LIKELY WORKING THIS CASE.
BUT FIRST WE WANT TO TAKE YOU
THROUGH THE DAY'S DEVELOPMENTS
IN THE OTHER BIG STORY.
CANADIANS ARE LIVING THROUGH THE
COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
TO DATE IT HAS LED TO THE DEATHS
OF MORE THAN 1,600 CANADIANS
WITH MORE THAN 35,000 TESTING
POSITIVE.
THE PACE OF INFECTION REMAINS A
CHALLENGE.
1,673 NEW CASES WERE REPORTED
TODAY.
A STUBBORNLY HIGH NUMBER, BUT IF
WE LOOK AT THE DAILY INCREASES
IN CASES AS A TOTAL, IT'S
CONSISTENT, A SIGN OF HOLDING
THE LINE AGAINST A TENACIOUS
THREAT THAT.
THREAT HAS UNTIL NOW EFFECTIVELY
SHUTDOWN PARLIAMENT.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT IT
WANTS STRICT LIMITS ON HOW
M.P.s RETURN TO OTTAWA
TOMORROW.
IT SAYS FOR SAFETY.
BUT THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION SAYS
THAT UNDERMINES ACCOUNTABILITY.
ASHLEY BURKE HAS THE DEBATE OVER
DEMOCRACY IN A PANDEMIC.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE SHOULD HAVE A
PARLIAMENT THAT FUNCTIONS BUT WE
HAVE TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.
>> Reporter: THE LIBERALS SAY
THEY WANT TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
THE CONSERVATIVES ARGUE THEY'RE
NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH.
>> WE THINK THAT IN TIMES LIKE
THIS WE NEED MORE ACCOUNTABILITY
AND MORE TRANSPARENCY, NOT LESS.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE TWO
LEADERS WITH DIFFERENT VIEWS OF
HOW PARLIAMENT CAN FUNCTION IN A
PANDEMIC.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I BELIEVE DEEPLY IN
OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR DEMOCRATIC
INSTITUTIONS AND OUR PRINCIPLES
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE
ACCOUNTABLE.
I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO BE TAKING
QUESTIONS EVERY DAY FROM MEDIA
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
TAKING QUESTIONS FROM OPPOSITION
PARTIES.
BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A
RESPONSIBLE WAY.
>> PHYSICAL DISTANCING MEANS
STAYING TWO METRES APART, NOT
STAYING AWAY FROM PARLIAMENT.
>> Reporter: THE STICKING
POINT, WHERE M.P.s SHOULD
PHYSICALLY SIT IN THE HOUSE.
THE CONSERVATIVES WANT SEVERAL
IN-PERSON SESSIONS A WEEK BUT
THE LIBERALS ARE PUSHING FOR ONE
WITH ADDITIONAL VIRTUAL
MEETINGS.
OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES SUPPORT
THAT.
>> I THINK THAT THE REALITY IS
THAT THE MORE WE MEET IN PERSON,
THE MORE THAT INCREASES THE
RISK.
>> Reporter: THE BLOC IS ALSO
ON BOARD BUT THE GREENS WON'T
GIVE THEIR SUPPORT UNLESS IT'S A
LEGISLATIVE EMERGENCY.
>> THEY CAN'T STOCK THE GROCERY
STORES VIRTUALLY, BUT WE CAN AS
M.P.s MEET VIRTUALLY.
>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION
FOR YOU.
>> Reporter: MAY POINTS OUT
THAT SOME HEALTH COMMITTEES ARE
ALREADY MEETING ONLINE.
>> I'VE SEEN PIERRE POILIEVRE GO
AT
BILL MORNEAU ON ZOOM.
IT WASN'T ANY DIFFERENT IN
QUALITY THAN QUESTION PERIOD.
>> Reporter: THE LIBERALS SAY
THAT IT'S ABOUT BEING
REASONABLE.
THE CONSERVATIVES SAY THAT IT'S
ABOUT BEING ACCOUNTABLE.
ALL OF THIS DURING A PANDEMIC
WHEN CANADIANS WANT BOTH
DEMOCRACY AND DECISIVENESS.
ASHLEY BURKE, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Ian: A LIFE-AND-DEATH
STRUGGLE WITH COVID-19 CONTINUES
AT LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES
ACROSS CANADA CONTINUE FOR
RESIDENTS AND THOSE WHO CARE FOR
THEM.
VICTORIA SALVAN, A PATIENT
ATTENDANT IN MONTRÉAL CONTRACTED
COVID-19.
HER DEATH CONFIRMED THIS
WEEKEND.
AT LEAST 62 RESIDENTS AT THE
GREAT START FACILITY HAVE TESTED 
POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS, ALONG
WITH 18 STAFF.
IN NOVA SCOTIA, THERE'S A
SIMILAR CRISIS.
>> THEY HAD MULTIPLE
INTRODUCTIONS OF THIS VIRUS
PROBABLY AROUND THREE WEEKS AGO.
AND IT HAS SPREAD
SUBSTANTIALLY WITHIN A LARGE
FACILITY.
>> Ian: NORTHWOOD MANOR IN
HALIFAX HAS SEEN A TOTAL OF FIVE
DEATHS SO FAR THIS WEEKEND.
MORE THAN 80% OF CASES AT THE
PROVINCE'S LONG-TERM CARE HOMES
ARE HERE.
NOW PROVINCIAL HEALTH STAFF AND
VOLUNTEERS ARE STEPPING IN.
AND IN ONTARIO, MOUNTAINVIEW
CARE
HOME IN GEORGETOWN REPORTED
EIGHT DEATHS LINKED TO COVID-19.
ABOUT ONE IN SIX LONG-TERM CARE
HOMES IN ONTARIO HAVE OUTBREAKS.
AMONG THE WORST AT ANSON PLACE
AND EATONVILLE CARE CENTRES.
BOTH ARE OPERATED BY THE SAME
COMPANY.
TALIA RICCI HEARD FROM A WOMAN
WHOSE PARENTS BOTH LIVE
IN EATONVILLE.
>> THE HOME IS DOING EVERYTHING
THEY CAN, BUT I'M REALLY
WORRIED.
>> Reporter: BOTH OF JANE
BAILEY'S PARENTS HAVE TESTED
POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
BUT HER WORRIES EXTEND TO
EVERYONE AT THAT LONG-TERM CARE
HOME.
>> EATONVILLE IS TRAUMATIZED.
>> Reporter: MORE THAN 30
RESIDENTS HAVE DIED.
MORE THAN 100 HAVE TESTED
POSITIVE AND SO HAVE DOZENS OF
STAFF.
BAILEY IS CONCERNED THAT THE
HOME ISN'T GETTING THE SUPPORT
IT NEEDS.
>> THE PROMISES THAT ARE BEING
MADE DO NOT APPEAR TO BE
IMPLEMENTED.
AND THE URGENT AND THE TIMELY
MANNER THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED
IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> Reporter: THE ONTARIO
NURSES' ASSOCIATION HAS FILED A
LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THIS HOME
AND TWO OTHERS OPERATED BY THE
SAME COMPANY.
>> THE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WAS
NOT AVAILABLE.
THERE WAS A LACK OF
COMMUNICATION TO THE NURSES.
>> Reporter: THE COMPANY SAYS
WORKERS HAVE HAD PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT.
THE PROVINCE SAYS THAT HOSPITAL
STAFF ARE HELPING AT THIS HOME
AS WELL AS OTHERS.
BUT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO TAKE OVER THE HOME.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S RIGHT IN
MY OWN BACKYARD AND IT'S AN
ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY.
>> Reporter: IN A STATEMENT,
EATONVILLE CARE CENTRE SAYS THAT
TRILLION HEALTH
CENTRES IS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT TO THE HOME THROUGH
TESTING RESIDENTS AND PREVENTION
EDUCATION, AND CONNECTING
SEVERAL RESIDENTS WITH A
GERIATRICIAN.
SOME WITH LOVED ONES IN THE HOME
LIKE TRISH MILLER
ARE MANAGING TO STAY POSITIVE.
ESPECIALLY AFTER RECEIVING NEWS
OF A NEGATIVE TEST.
>> DEFINITELY SCARY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY --
THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN.
>> Reporter: FOR NOW MILLER
HAS BEEN DOING A CHRISTMAS
COUNTDOWN FOR HER AUNT IN THE
HOME.
SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
>> WE LOVE YOU TOO.
>> Reporter: BUT BAILEY ISN'T
FEELING AS HOPEFUL.
SHE SAYS THAT MORE HELP IS
NEEDED NOW.
>> ALL OF THESE 133 PEOPLE THAT
TESTED POSITIVE AT EATONVILLE
ARE GOING TO START PASSING AWAY.
>> Reporter: TALIA RICCI, CBC
NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Ian: AND IN THE U.S.,
FRUSTRATION ABOUT MEASURES MEANT
TO PROTECT PEOPLE HAVE LED TO
MORE PROTESTS AT STATE CAPITALS.
THE DEMONSTRATIONS IN THE FIRST
STATE AFFECTED BY THE
CORONAVIRUS, WASHINGTON, AND IN
COLORADO, THOUSANDS DEMANDING TO
BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO WORK.
ALL OF THIS COMES AS AMERICA
REACHES ANOTHER MILESTONE.
MORE THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF A
MILLION PEOPLE CONFIRMED WITH
COVID-19.
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS HAS PASSED
40,000.
PROTESTERS HAVE EXPRESSED
SYMPATHY.
BUT AS PAUL HUNTER
TELLS US, THEY'RE ALSO FEARING
ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY.
>> WOO!
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Reporter: NASHVILLE TODAY,
AMONG THE LATEST U.S. STATE
CAPITALS TO FACE THE ANGER OF A
GROWING NUMBER OF AMERICANS
DEMANDING THE U.S. BE RE-OPENED.
BOLSTERED, PERHAPS, BY THE
CONTINUING TRICKLE OF POSITIVE
NEWS ON SOME FRONTS.
>> ALL INDICATIONS AT THIS POINT
ARE THAT WE ARE ON THE DESCENT.
>> Reporter: BUT WHILE NEW
YORK'S GOVERNOR NOTED THE RATE
OF COVID HOSPITALIZATIONS IN HIS
STATE IS DROPPING, HE ALSO
EMPHASIZED THAT THE CORONAVIRUS,
OR AS HE PUT IT "THE BEAST" IS
STILL OUT THERE.
>> WE CAN CONTROL THE BEAST,
YES, BUT THE BEAST IS STILL
ALIVE.
WE DID NOT KILL THE BEAST.
AND THE BEAST CAN RISE UP AGAIN.
WE KNOW THAT.
>> Reporter: HE SAID IT ALL
DEPENDS ON HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE
NOW.
AND YET THEY DEMONSTRATED ALL
WEEKEND.
THIS IS DENVER TODAY.
AND THIS IS WISCONSIN YESTERDAY,
WHERE EVEN IN THE FACE OF THOSE
WHO ARGUE THAT IT'S UNSAFE TO
RUSH INTO A RE-OPENING,
DEMONSTRATORS COUNTERED THEIR
OWN LIBERTY IS AT STAKE.
>> WE ARE STILL A FREE COUNTRY,
AT LEAST FOR NOW.
>> Reporter: HIGHLIGHTING THE
GROWING DESPERATION, LINEUPS OF
CARS YET AGAIN FOR FOOD HANDOUTS
THIS WEEKEND IN TEXAS.
FOOD MANY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD
TO ACTUALLY BUY.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, AND
THREE GRANDBABIES AT HOME SO
RIGHT NOW IT'S A BIG HELP TO US.
>> President Donald Trump:
THEY WANT TO GET OUT, THEY WANT
TO GET OUT AND GET BACK WITH
THEIR LIVES.
>> Reporter: SUGGESTED DONALD
TRUMP TODAY, HE'S ONSIDE WITH
THOSE PROTESTERS OF WHOM HE'S
EVIDENTLY WELL AWARE.
>> President Donald Trump: I
WATCHED THE PROTESTERS AND THEY
WERE ALL SIX FEET APART.
SOME GOVERNORS HAVE GONE TOO
FAR.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED
ARE MAYBE NOT SO APPROPRIATE.
AND I THINK THAT IN THE END IT
WON'T MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE
STARTING TO OPEN UP OUR STATES.
>> Reporter: THE RE-OPEN, SAID
TRUMP, WILL BE SYSTEMATIC AND IN
HIS WORDS "DONE BEAUTIFULLY."
SAID THE PRESIDENT TONIGHT, HE
THINKS THAT IT WILL GO VERY
WELL.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Ian: MISINFORMATION ABOUT
COVID-19 IS SPREADING FASTER
THAN THE VIRUS, POWERED BY
SOCIAL MEDIA, WITH EVERYTHING
FROM SUPPOSED
CURES TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES
ABOUT THE OUTBREAK.
AND AS KATIE NICHOLSON EXPLAINS,
TECH COMPANIES ARE STRUGGLING TO
CONTAIN IT.
>> [Speaking Foreign Language]
>> Reporter: THIS VIDEO CLAIMS
CHILDREN DIED AFTER RECEIVING
THE COVID-19 VACCINE.
THIS IS ONE OF MORE THAN
40 MILLION POSTS FLAGGED BY
FACEBOOK AS FALSE.
IT HASN'T BEEN REMOVED BUT
IT STARTS WITH THIS LINK TO A
FACT-CHECK.
CRITICS SAY THAT DOESN'T GO FAR
ENOUGH.
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT CONVINCING
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T ALREADY
BELIEVE THAT STUFF.
>> Reporter: ROBERT EVANS IS A
JOURNALIST WITH FACT-CHECKING
ORGINISATION BELLINGCAT.
HE SAYS THAT
TONNES OF MISLEADING INFORMATION
IS SLIPPING THROUGH AND FACEBOOK
NEEDS TO TAKE MORE AGGRESSIVE
ACTION.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE SHEER
VOLUME OF USERS AND CONTENT.
>> FUNDAMENTALLY FACEBOOK IS TOO
LARGE TO MONITOR FOR THIS SORT
OF THING.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD STOP
IT WITHOUT SHUTTING LARGE
PORTIONS OF THE SITE DOWN.
>> Reporter: FACEBOOK, WHO
OWNS INSTAGRAM SAYS THERE IT
DOES ITS BEST TO TRY TO
ENSURE THAT POSTS THAT POSE A
DANGER TO PEOPLE ARE
REMOVED QUICKLY.
BUT BECAUSE OF SOCIAL
DISTANCING, FEWER EMPLOYEES CAN
ACCESS ITS SECURE SERVERS.
>> THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON
THE
ABILITY FOR US TO BE AS FAST AS
WE NORMALLY WOULD BE.
>> Reporter: AND FACEBOOK ALSO
PLANS TO START CONTACTING PEOPLE
WHO HAVE INTERACTED WITH
MISLEADING CONTENT.
AND THEN THERE'S TWITTER.
>> I THINK THAT TWITTER IS
PROBABLY THE WORST IN TERMS OF
MISINFORMATION.
>> Reporter: TWEETS LIKE THIS
ONE CLAIMING THAT BILL GATES
PLANNED THIS PANDEMIC THROUGH
THE USE OF 5G ARE RAMPANT AND
ARE HARD TO REPORT
TO TWITTER AS FAKE.
>> THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO
IN THE OPTIONS THAT TWITTER
LISTS TO
CONNECT THAT AS MISINFORMATION
RELATED TO COVID-19.
>> Reporter: TWITTER SAYS THAT
IT TAKES MISINFORMATION
SERIOUSLY, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO
CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE --
>> WE CERTAINLY ARE TRYING TO
STRIKE THAT DELICATE BALANCE
BETWEEN FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND
THE ABILITY TO DESCENT WHEN IT
COMES TO AN IDEA.
>> Reporter: GOOGLE, WHICH
ALSO OWNS YouTube, SAYS THAT
IT'S CRACKING DOWN ON WHO CAN
USE THE KEY WORDS "COVID" AND
"CORONAVIRUS"
IN ADVERTISING.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT MOVING THE
CONTENT THAT IS RELIABLE UP
HIGHER IN SEARCH RESULTS.
KATIE NICHOLSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Ian: WE'LL RETURN TO OUR TOP
STORY OF THE HORRIFYING MURDERS
IN NOVA SCOTIA NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL."
INVESTIGATING A CHAOTIC SERIES
OF CRIME SCENES AND
WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS, THE
KILLER'S REPLICA OF AN RCMP
CRUISER.
MY INTERVIEW WITH A FORMER
MOUNTIE INVESTIGATOR IS NEXT.
(*)
>> WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN OUR
PROVINCE IS NOT WHO WE ARE.
IT MAY CHANGE US A LITTLE, BUT
IT CANNOT DEFINE US.
>> Ian: THERE IS STILL SO MUCH
THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS
DEADLY RAMPAGE IN NOVA SCOTIA,
BUT HERE'S WHAT WE DO KNOW.
LATE TONIGHT THE RCMP CONFIRMED
THAT AT LEAST 16 PEOPLE ARE NOW
DEAD, INCLUDING RCMP CONSTABLE
HEIDI STEVENSON.
A SECOND OFFICER IS IN HOSPITAL
WITH NON-LIFE-THREATENING
INJURIES.
>> WE BELIEVE IT TO BE ONE
PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
ALL OF THE KILLINGS.
AND THAT HE ALONE MOVED ACROSS
THE NORTHERN PART OF THE
PROVINCE.
>> Ian: THE GUNMAN, 51-YEAR-OLD
GABRIEL WORTMAN, IS ALSO DEAD.
POLICE CONFIRMING THAT WORTMAN
WAS AT ONE POINT DRIVING IN A
CAR MADE TO LOOK LIKE A POLICE
CRUISER.
LET'S GET A POLICING PERSPECTIVE
ON THIS.
STEVE MARISSINK IS A FORMER RCMP
MAJOR CRIMES INVESTIGATOR.
AND HE'S JOINING US TONIGHT FROM
EDMONTON.
SO AS YOU HEARD THAT NEWS
CONFERENCE FROM HALIFAX, STEVE,
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?
>> JUST A TRAGEDY.
AN UNPRECEDENTED TRAGEDY, IAN.
IT'S GOING TO BE FELT ACROSS
CANADA.
THE NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE
INDICATED THAT ARE DECEASED AND
THE LOSS OF AN RCMP MEMBER IS
JUST TRAGIC.
THERE ARE NO OTHER WORDS THAN
THAT.
>> Ian: AND GIVE US A SENSE OF
SOME OF THE POLICING
PERSPECTIVES.
THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, RURAL
NOVA SCOTIA, MULTIPLE 911 CALLS.
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL, I CAN JUST IMAGINE THAT
WHEN THE 911 CALLS START COMING
IN AND THE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO
BE WORKING IN A RURAL LOCATION.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATED
BY DISTANCE.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF
RESOURCES AVAILABLE BECAUSE,
AGAIN, IT'S A RURAL LOCATION.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE ALL STARTED
TO HEAD TO THAT LOCATION.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE ARRIVED
INDIVIDUALLY, PERHAPS TWO IN A
VEHICLE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
A PRESENCE THAT WOULD HAVE GROWN
OVER TIME.
BUT, AGAIN, FOR THE FIRST
OFFICERS ON THE SCENE IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN CHAOS.
>> Ian: AND THEN THE GUNMAN
TAKES OFF IN AN RCMP VEHICLE.
I MEAN, A FAKE ONE, BUT IT'S
MADE TO LOOK LIKE THAT.
WEARING AN RCMP UNIFORM.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> WELL, THE FIRST THING FOR THE
OFFICERS ON THE SCENE, THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO SECURE
THE SCENE AND TRY TO IDENTIFY A
SUSPECT OR WHAT HAPPENED TO TRY
TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT THEY'RE
SEEING.
AND THEN THE FACT THAT THIS
INDIVIDUAL HAS PUT A MOCK-UP OF
A POLICE CAR TOGETHER AND PART
OF A UNIFORM SUGGESTS TO ME THAT
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
PRE-PLANNING, FORETHOUGHT, AND
CONSIDERATION.
THIS WAS NOT A
SPUR-OF-THE-MOMENT EVENT.
THIS INDIVIDUAL PLANNED WHAT HE
WAS GOING TO DO AND CARRIED IT
OUT.
>> Ian: SO WE HEAR THAT HE HAD A
CONNECTION TO SOME OF THE
VICTIMS AND DID NOT HAVE A
CONNECTION TO OTHER VICTIMS.
THERE WILL BE NO CRIMINAL TRIAL
HERE, THE SUSPECT IS DEAD.
BUT, STEVE, IF YOU WERE
INVESTIGATING THIS NOW, WHAT
WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR?
>> THE WHY.
YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY THEY'LL BE
ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THE HOW AND
PUT TOGETHER THE LOCATIONS AND
THE TIMELINE.
BUT, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE THE
MOTIVATION.
WHAT CAUSED THIS INDIVIDUAL TO
DO SUCH A DRASTIC HORRENDOUS
THING AND WHAT -- WHY AT THAT
TIME.
BUT, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE MOCK-UP
OF THE CAR THIS WAS NOT A SPUR
OF THE MOMENT.
HE PUT PLANNING AND
CONSIDERATION INTO THIS.
AND YOU HAVE TO WONDER DID
ANYBODY NOTICE THAT, WAS ANYBODY
AWARE OF WHAT HE WAS DOING.
>> Ian: SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE AS
PERPLEXED AS THE REST OF US AS
WE
TRY TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS.
STEVE MARISSINK IN EDMONTON,
ALWAYS NICE TO TALK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, IAN.
>> Ian: NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
WE RETURN TO THE OTHER BIG STORY
AFFECTING CANADIANS TONIGHT --
THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC.
YOUR QUESTIONS ARE NEXT.
AND LATER...
>> * THERE WILL BE A MOUNTAIN 
* THAT I WILL HAVE TO CLIMB 
>> Ian: CONNECTING THROUGH
TRAGEDY, THE NOVA SCOTIA WAY.
WE'RE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
(*)
>> I'M JAYME POISSON AND
TOMORROW ON CBC'S DAILY NEWS
PODCAST "FRONTBURNER" WE TAKE A
DEEP DIVE INTO CHINA'S WORLD OF
WET MARKETS TO FIND OUT EXACTLY
WHY MANY EXPERTS ARE CALLING FOR
THEM TO BE SHUT DOWN.
SUBSCRIBE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR
PODCASTS.
(*)
>> Ian: WELCOME BACK.
LET'S RETURN TO OUR OTHER MAJOR
STORY TONIGHT, CANADA'S ONGOING
COVID-19 EPIDEMIC.
AND WITH US, RESPIROLOGIST
DR. SAMIR GUPTA AND INFECTIOUS
DISEASE SPECIALIST DR. ISSAC
BOGOCH TO ANSWER MORE OF YOUR
QUESTIONS.
AND, DR. BOGOCH, LET'S START
WITH YOU.
GIVEN THE 14-DAY INCUBATION
PERIOD AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
BEEN IN VIRTUAL LOCKDOWN FOR
THREE TO FOUR WEEKS, IF WE ALL
SELF-ISOLATE OR PRACTISE SOCIAL
DISTANCING, IS THE VIRUS GOING
TO DISAPPEAR COMPLETELY?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, IT REALLY
WON'T UNDER PRACTICAL
SITUATIONS.
NOW IN AN IMAGINARY SITUATION
WHERE 8 BILLION PEOPLE ON PLANET
EARTH WERE IN ISOLATION FOR A
PERIOD OF 14 DAYS, YEAH, THAT
MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
BUT OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT WILL
NEVER BE THE CASE.
PEOPLE WILL MOVE AROUND DESPITE
EXISTING MEASURES AND, SADLY,
EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF COMMUNITY
TRANSMISSION CAN SET OFF A NEW
CHAINS OF INFECTION.
SO THIS WILL SLOW DOWN THE
SPREAD OF INFECTION BUT, SADLY,
IT WOULD NOT ELIMINATE THE VIRUS
FROM THE EARTH.
>> Ian: DR. GUPTA, A LOT OF TALK
ABOUT VACCINES AND HENCE THIS
QUESTION.
ARE WE AT RISK OF BEING GIVEN
VACCINES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
TESTED FOR LONG ENOUGH?
>> NO.
I THINK THAT THE REALITY IS THAT
WE ALL KIND OF WANTED A VACCINE
YESTERDAY.
BUT TYPICALLY IT TAKES 12 TO 18
MONTHS TO DEVELOP A VACCINE.
I DO THINK THAT IT WILL BE
FASTER IN THIS CASE, NOT
BECAUSE NECESSARILY BECAUSE
WE'RE GOING TO SKIP STEPS, BUT
JUST BECAUSE
WE'RE SEEING THIS UNPRECEDENTED
LEVEL OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN
THE PHARMA COMPANIES WHO ARE
SEEING ALL OF THIS SCIENTIFIC
INTEREST AND SEEING ALL OF THIS
FUNDING.
IT REALLY IS KIND OF THE WHOLE
WORLD'S PROBLEM.
AND THE TRIALS THAT WE ARE
HEARING ABOUT ARE REALLY TRIALS
TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE RIGHT
DOSE AND IS IT SAFE.
WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT OF TRIALS
TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S
EFFECTIVE.
>> Ian: DR. BOGOCH, I HEAR A LOT
OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT MUTATIONS
OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS AND THE
QUESTION FROM ONE OF OUR VIEWERS
IS, HAS THE VIRUS EVER MUTATED
IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY?
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO CLARIFY
THE WORD
MUTATION.
AND REMEMBER THAT EVERY SINGLE
VIRUS MUTATES.
AND IT MEANS THAT THERE'S A
CHANGE IN THE GENETICS OF THE
VIRUS.
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY SINGLE
VIRUS.
AND WE HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT IT
MEANS THAT IT
WILL GET MORE STRONG OR VIRULENT
OR MORE DANGEROUS.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
IN FACT, MOST MUTATIONS DO
NOTHING.
SCIENTISTS CAN HARNESS THE
CHANGE IN THE GENETICS OF A
VIRUS TO DETERMINE INTERESTING
THINGS, LIKE HOW LONG A VIRUS
HAS
BEEN IN ONE PLACE COMPARED TO
ANOTHER.
BUT REALLY IF PEOPLE ARE
THINKING THAT THESE MUTATIONS
MAY MEAN THAT THE VIRUS IS
STRONGER OR MORE DANGEROUS IN
ONE LOCATION COMPARED TO ANOTHER
LOCATION, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
THE VIRUS HAS MUTATED A LITTLE
BIT BUT THAT JUST HELPS US TO
UNDERSTAND WHERE THE VIRUS IS
AND HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE.
BUT THE VIRUS IS NO MORE
DANGEROUS IN PLACE A COMPARED TO
PLACE B BECAUSE OF ANY CHANGE IN
THE VIRUS.
>> Ian: THANK YOU FOR CLEARING
THAT UP.
DR. GUPTA, NEXT QUESTION TO YOU.
WITHOUT ADEQUATE TESTING HOW
WILL WE KNOW WHEN IT'S SAFE TO
BEGIN OPENING UP CITIES,
PROVINCES AND THE COUNTRY?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT WE JUST
WON'T KNOW.
WE DO NEED THAT TESTING.
I THINK THAT FOR US TO FEEL
COMFORTABLE SENDING PEOPLE BACK
OUT THERE, WE REALLY ARE GOING
TO
WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS
VIRUS IS BEHAVING.
AND TO KNOW THAT WE'LL WANT TO
KNOW EXACTLY WHO HAS THIS VIRUS
AND WHO DOESN'T.
BUT ALSO WHO HAS HAD THE
INFECTION AND HAS A REASONABLE
DEGREE OF IMMUNITY TO IT.
AND TO KNOW THOSE THINGS WE NEED
ENOUGH TESTS, IN OTHER WORDS,
WE NEED COMMUNITY TESTING.
BUT WE ALSO NEED ACCURATE ENOUGH
TESTS.
THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND WITH RESPECT TO ALL
OF THE VARIOUS TESTS OUT THERE
WHAT THE SO-CALLED FALSE
POSITIVE AND FALSE NEGATIVE RATE
IS FOR EACH OF THESE TESTS.
SO WE DO NEED THAT TESTING AND
WE NEED MORE
INFORMATION.
>> Ian: I ALWAYS SAY THIS BUT IT
BEARS REPEATING -- I ALWAYS
APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME THAT
YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES HAVE TAKEN AND HOW
CLEARLY YOU EXPLAIN THE SCIENCE
TO US.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> STAY SAFE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ian: WE'LL CONTINUE TO ASK
YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID-19 ON
"THE NATIONAL" EACH NIGHT SO
SEND THEM TO US.
YOU CAN MESSAGE US DIRECTLY ON
INSTAGRAM @CBCTHENATIONAL OR
YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL AT
COVID@CBC.CA.
>>> AROUND THE WORLD,
2.4 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE TESTED
POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, BUT EVERY
COUNTRY'S EPIDEMIC IS ITS OWN
STORY.
>> DOCTORS AND NURSES ARE DOING
A HEROIC JOB.
>> Ian: FROM ITALY'S STATE OF
EMERGENCY TO IRAN'S EARLY STATE
OF DENIAL.
>> MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T
HAVE THIS IN HAND IF THE PERSON
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIGHTING
THE VIRUS IS STANDING THERE
PROBABLY INVOLVED IN A SUPER
SPREADER EVENT HIMSELF ON
CAMERA.
>> Ian: FROM GERMANY'S
LIFE-SAVING CAUTION TO FRANCE'S
COSTLY CONFIDENCE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF ANGER IN
FRANCE RIGHT NOW.
>> Ian: "THE NATIONAL" LOOKS AT
LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT
THE VIRUS AND THE COUNTRIES
FIGHTING IT.
>>> BRAZIL HAS CONFIRMED ROUGHLY
THE SAME NUMBER OF CASES AS
CANADA BUT HAS FAR MORE DEATHS.
ITS LEADER CONTINUES TO CALL
COVID-19 "A LITTLE FLU."
CONCERNS ABOUT ITS HYSTERIA.
AND AS STEVEN D'SOUZA SHOWS US,
THAT'S LED TO DISARRAY AND SOME
FEAR LOOMING DISASTER.
>> Reporter: ON BRAZILIAN
BALCONIES, THE SOUNDS OF SAMBA
HAVE
BEEN REPLACED BY THE CLAMOUR OF
POTS AND PANS AND SHOUTS OF
BOLSONARO OUT.
BRAZILIANS HEEDED THE CALL FROM
STATE AND HEALTH OFFICIALS TOW
QUARANTINE, ABANDONING THEIR
ICONIC BEACHES AND EMPTYING THE
FAMOUS SOCCER STADIUMS, BUT NOW
THERE ARE SIGNS THAT BRAZILIANS
ARE STARTING TO TUNE OUT THE
WARNINGS.
CRITICS BLAME PRESIDENT
JAIR BOLSONARO.
HE'S CONTINUALLY DOWNPLAYED THE
VIRUS AND IGNORED CALLS
FOR PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
LAST WEEK HE FIRED THE COUNTRY'S
HEALTH MINISTER.
HIS SOBER TECHNICAL BRIEFINGS
HAD MADE HIM IMMENSELY POL UP
ARE AS BOLSONARO'S SUPPORT HAD
PLUMMETED.
>> AT SOME STAGE YOU WOULD
HAVE TO SACK THE MINISTER OF
HEALTH BECAUSE THERE WAS A
COMPLETE CONTRADICTORY
COMMUNICATION TAKING PLACE
BETWEEN THE TWO.
>> Reporter: THE FIRING BRINGS
ADDED UNCERTAINTY TO BRAZIL'S
UNEVEN PANDEMIC RESPONSE.
THE HEALTH SYSTEM IS NEARING
CAPACITY.
THE COUNTRY LACKS TESTS AND
EQUIPMENT.
AND FAVELAS, BRAZIL'S SPRAWLING
SLUMS, ARE HIRING THEIR OWN
DOCTORS AND IMPOSING THEIR OWN
CURFEWS.
>> WE HAVE TWO FAMILIES -- THE
VIRUS AND THE PRESIDENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WORSE.
>> Reporter: LIKE BOLSONARO,
DONALD TRUMP WANTS A RETURN TO
NORMAL.
THOUGH HIS CALLS FOR IMPEACHMENT
GROW.
>> PEOPLE ARE SO FOCUSED ON THE
NEAR-TERM CHALLENGES AND HE
AS PRESIDENT SEEMS TO KNOW THAT.
>> Reporter: EXPERTS ESTIMATE
THAT BRAZIL'S CASE COUNT IS
LIKELY 12 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE
INITIAL NUMBER.
NOW WITH THE NEW HEALTH MINISTER
WHO IS UNLIKELY TO STAND UP TO
THE PRESIDENT THERE ARE FEARS
ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE
PANDEMIC'S PEAK STILL WEEKS
AWAY.
STEVEN D'SOUZA, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Ian: WE RETURN TO OUR TOP
STORY NEXT, INCLUDING A MOMENT
FOR THIS "MOMENT."
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>> IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER *
* THE PLACES THAT YOU'VE BEEN 
>> Ian: FINDING WAYS TO CONNECT
DURING TRAGEDY IN THE MIDST OF A
PANDEMIC NEXT.
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>> Ian: ON THE NIGHT OF A
TRAGEDY LIKE THIS ONE, YOU OFTEN
SEE VIGILS, MEMORIALS, PEOPLE
COMING
TOGETHER TO MOURN THOSE KILLED
IN SENSELESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
BUT TONIGHT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE
OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC, SO THAT
CAN'T HAPPEN.
SO NOVA SCOTIANS HAVE MADE
USE OF A FACEBOOK PAGE, ONE THAT
BECAME POPULAR DURING THIS
COVID-19 LOCKDOWN -- THE VIRTUAL
KITCHEN PARTY.
MUSICIANS JUMPING ON THEIR
GUITARS, PIANOS, AND SOME OF
THEM
HARMONICAS, TO FILL PEOPLE'S
HOMES WITH A VARIETY OF TUNES.
AND THIS IS TONIGHT'S "MOMENT."
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>> THE KITCHEN PARTY, WHAT'S
GOING ON.
* BUT HOW CAN I EXPECT TO WIN 
* IF I NEVER TRY 
* OH, I 
* I JUST CAN'T GIVE UP NOW 
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* COME TOO FAR FROM WHERE I
STARTED FROM *
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>> * SO ROCK ME MAMA 
* LIKE A WAGON WHEEL  ROCK ME
MAMA *
* IN THE WAY THAT YOU
FEEL *
* HEY HEY HEY 
* MAMA ROCK ME 
* ROCK ME MAMA LIKE THE WIND AND
THE RAIN *
* ROCK ME MAMA 
* LIKE A SOUTHBOUND TRAIN 
>> * IT'S MORE LIKE A DREAM 
* SHE'S CALLED NOVA SCOTIA 
* SHE SO MAKES YOU FEEL 
* YOU DISCOVERED A TREASURE 
* NO OTHER HAS SEEN 
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>> Ian: I HOPE THAT PROVIDES
SOME MEASURE OF COMFORT, BUT
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
IT'S JUST SO HARD TO IMAGINE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN RURAL
NOVA SCOTIA.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE IT ANYWHERE
REALLY IN CANADA.
AND, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS GOING TO FEEL WORSE IN
THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET SOME NAMES
VIA SOCIAL MEDIA THOUGH NOT
CONFIRMED BY OFFICIAL SOURCES.
BUT AS WE LEARN MORE
ABOUT THE VICTIMS AND THE
CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEIR
RELATIVES AND HOW PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING TO COPE WITH THOSE
LOSSES, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
BUT WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THIS,
OF COURSE, TOMORROW AND WE
APPRECIATE YOU WATCHING "THE
NATIONAL" TONIGHT.
THAT IS THE PROGRAMME FOR
SUNDAY, APRIL THE 19th.
GOODNIGHT.
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