hi everyone so this is John Venus in the
picture and he went to eating lactating
meat and other animal products and
became a hunter after he was supposedly
vegan now I have heard a statistic
somewhere I can't remember where it was
in some book that out of ten people that
say they're vegan only one is truly a
vegan now what constitutes a vegan okay
does eating Oreos constitute a vegan
does walking outside and stepping on
supposedly some insects that are on the
road or the grass constitute as a vegan
does owning pets constitute as a vegan
so there's a really no full definition
of a vegan in this context now in my
definition what a vegan is is someone
that causes the least amount of harm
they possibly can so as much as they
possibly can
eliminates anything that causes harm or
used to an animal now again you cannot
no one can be fully 100% vegan there's
no such thing but we don't claim to be
fully other person vegan and that's why
we just call ourselves vegan and not a
hundred percent vegan so when we look at
this gentleman John Venus he supposedly
is a vegan bodybuilder or was a vegan
bodybuilder and now he is full head on
animal consumption eater now I don't
know his whole story because I never
went into it nor am I going to because
all just I tend to just want to get to
the root of the problems and not really
nitpick at people so let's get into this
conversation here because I think it's
very very good
to get into so most people go back to
eating animals if they never fully had a
realization or awakening to the real
deeper truth of veganism which is the
ethics of veganism now veganism is an
ethic it's an ethic it's a moral ethic
to reduce or to eliminate completely as
much as we possibly can the consumption
of any animal products and sorry it's
not actually to reduce but it's to
eliminate as much as you possibly can of
anything that comes from animals
maybe animal products animal ingredients
in products maybe it's animal clothing
name is animal and testing animals in
entertainment animals for pets all that
kind of stuff to reduce all of that as
much as possible now I'm not going to
get into the argument today
or the discussion today of how vegan are
you because that's I've done many videos
on that and I'm not gonna continue but
basically for 99.9% and more of your
diet has to come from non-animal sources
now there may be a product that we buy
that we don't know for sure if it's
fully vegan like an electronic product
or product that has I don't know that
may contain you know some animal product
that was on the line you know before you
know on the same variable
for example like chocolate or whatever
but we have to realize we have to do the
best that we can and the ultimate
solution is really to eat as much Whole
Foods as possible so things like whole
grains starches foods vegetables nuts
seeds like you know all that kind of
stuff so really to eat as whole as
possible and when we buy any kind of
clothing or any kind of products to try
to source them either from fair true
Fairtrade sources or from thrift shops
you stores as much as possible okay or
from someone that previously owned the
product that being said we can't know
for sure if we buy a car that that car
is gonna be completely animal free at
least we don't buy a car that has
leather seats that's as much as we can
do and preferably you know take public
transit or ride a bike bicycle or take a
walk cuz I walked yesterday for example
20 kilometers and it was hard because I
didn't do it you know I didn't do that
before in one whole day and that's what
I did so that's what we really need to
understand first of all is that in order
to be a vegan you don't do you don't do
it for health reasons you don't do it
for environmental reasons no do it for
ego reasons you do it for the animals
because that's what the actual
definition is normal Watson coined the
term in 1944 he actually specifically
said that it was because of the animals
you know he understood that there was a
men's cruelty
associated with animals you can read it
in the 1944 vegan news in November 1944
so the vegan news is there for people to
read you can read it it's on the
Internet
it's also available on our website those
crazy vegans net and realize that
veganism first and foremost is about the
animals non-human animals now next thing
if someone is vegan for health reasons
or environmental reasons or needs
whatever ego reasons most likely they're
going to go back to eating animals
because they're they don't have that
strong ethical moral foundation which
gets them to see that ok I don't want to
eat this product because it comes from
you know from the use and the torture of
animals it is one I don't want to be
part of that and we have a moral ethic
within us now everybody does have a
moral ethic within them but it's do we
or did we wake into that or reawaken to
that moral ethic and if not then of
course most people actually do go back
to eating animals so veganism is action
ethical stance for animals and if we
want to go further in that definition
it's actually a moral stance for all
beings so the right not to usual to kill
or to harm any living being so that is
the thing about these people maybe they
went being a jest to make the games or
maybe just you know try it out for
several months or years maybe you know
that's so many things and no matter how
long you've been vegan if you don't have
the actual if your number one reason for
going vegan is not for ethical reasons
almost always you'll go back to eating
some animal products ok
and even if you think you do have that
ethics behind it and you went vegan for
the animals you have to have some kind
of spiritual breakthrough if you don't
have a spiritual ethical breakthrough
then and what constitutes a spiritual
ethical breakthrough well understanding
first of all two things first
understanding okay we have no right to
see animals non-human animals are saying
these property you know any commodity
and to see ourselves oh all of us are
interconnected with one another that's
number one number two is really to see
ourselves in another living creature and
when we see ourselves in the learned and
another living creature you don't want
to harm them we don't want to use them
because then we will be harming a part
of ourselves okay that kind of sounds
selfish or egotistical but it's just
like if you know God if people believe
in God God created all life if we harm a
part of that creature or any creature or
get someone else to do it on our behalf
we're harming a part of God so we don't
want to do that so thank you for
listening and joining me I love you all
I'll see you soon don't forget to like
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animals because you know you need to
need to and it's not going to be so it's
not going to be sustainable for everyone
to become a hunter and we're killing the
lives in that way anyways so take care
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or detail so John Mina's please read my
book return to the gentle sea for the
love that lives everyone once you read
that book you'll be like wow I don't
want to do anything that harms animals I
don't want anything to do that harms
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