MAKING SURE HIS BASE VOTERS TURN
OUT IN VERY LARGE NUMBERS IN
PLACES LIKE LATROBE IN WESTERN
P.A., ANDREA.
>> A BIG QUESTION HAS BEEN,
GARRETT, AND TO ALL OF YOU,
WHETHER THAT LAW AND ORDER
MESSAGE IS WORKING.
SHAUNA THOMAS, THE LATEST
QUINNIPIAC NATIONAL POLL SHOWS
US THE PRESIDENT’S ATTEMPT TO
INSPIRE FEAR AS A CAMPAIGN
MESSAGE IS NOT WORKING, IN THIS
POLL AT LEAST.
50% OF LIKELY VOTERS SAY THEY
FEEL LESS SAFE WITH DONALD TRUMP
AS PRESIDENT, 42% OF LIKELY
VOTERS SAY THEY FEEL LESS SAFE
WITH JOE BIDEN IN CHARGE.
ADDRESS THAT, SHAUNA, THE
MESSAGING WE’VE SEEN THROUGHOUT
THE CONVENTION AND CERTAINLY
SINCE THE CONVENTION, WHEREAS
THE CONVENTION WAS TRYING TO AT
LEAST TO SOFTEN THE EDGES OF
DONALD TRUMP, SINCE THEN IT’S
BEEN ALL LAW AND ORDER.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS VERY
CLEAR WHICH OF THE MESSAGES OUT
OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
CONVENTION, THE PRESIDENT WAS
GOING TO GO WITH.
HE WENT WITH THE, QUOTE, LAW AND
ORDER IDEA.
THAT IS WHAT JOE BIDEN WAS
TRYING TO IN SOME WAYS COMBAT,
ANY PEOPLE HE MAY LOSE FROM
THAT, BY SAYING HE’S FOR
SECURITY AND HE’S FOR SAFETY BUT
HE ALSO CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT
THE SAME TIME.
I THINK WITH RESPECT TO BIDEN’S
VISIT TO JACOB BLAKE’S HOMETOWN,
TO KENOSHA, WISCONSIN TODAY, THE
INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS
THAT HE DOESN’T REALLY HAVE TO
DO THAT MUCH TO BE A CONTRAST TO
THE PRESIDENT TODAY.
HE BASICALLY HAS TO SAY JACOB
BLAKE’S NAME, BECAUSE THAT WAS
SORT OF THE HEADLINE THAT CAME
OUT OF DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT
TRUMP’S VISIT.
HE HAS TO DO THAT AND HE HAS TO
MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL ALSO
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POLICIES
HE WOULD PUT FORTH AS PRESIDENT,
OF COURSE WE WANT TO HEAR THOSE
THINGS.
BUT THE CONTRAST WILL BE PRETTY
CLEAR, I THINK.
AND I THINK WE CAN’T DENY THAT
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS THE
PRESIDENT, IN SOME WAYS HE GETS
TO SET THE TERMS OF THE
ELECTION, BUT JOE BIDEN LOOKED
IN THAT CAMERA ON MONDAY AND
BASICALLY SAID, DO I LOOK LIKE A
RADICAL SOCIALIST.
I THINK HE’S DOING KIND OF WHAT
HE HAS TO DO.
AND BY GOING TO WISCONSIN TODAY,
HE IS ALSO GETTING SOME
TELEVISION PLAY, WHICH I THINK
WILL PUT SOME OF THOSE DEMOCRAT
FEARS YOU HEAR AT REST A LITTLE
BIT.
>> AND IT MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN A
WHOLE LOT OF NOTICE BUT ONE OF
THE PHOTO OPS THE PRESIDENT WAS
INVOLVED IN WAS CLEARLY STAGED,
BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS IN KENOSHA,
HE WAS TOURING THE DAMAGE, AND
HE WENT TO A DESTROYED STORE,
TERRIBLY TRAGIC SITUATION FOR
THAT STORE OWNER, BUT THE STORE
OWNER DIDN’T WANT TO
PARTICIPATE, DOES NOT SUPPORT
THE PRESIDENT, SO HE BROUGHT
BACK A FORMER OWNER OF THAT
STORE AND POSED WITH HIM IN THE
WRECKAGE, SHAWNA, SO IT WAS
PRETTY TRUMPED UP, PUN INTENDED.
>> IT WAS PRETTY TRUMPED UP.
BUT SOMETIMES I SEE THOSE IMAGES
AND WHAT HE DID THERE AND SAY,
OKAY, IT’S GOOD WE’RE GIVING
MORE CONTEXT ON THIS SHOW AND
OTHER SHOWS AND PIECES I’VE READ
ABOUT HOW THAT PHOTO OP CAME
ABOUT, BUT IN THE END THE PHOTO
THAT HAVE WILL PROBABLY END UP
IN A CAMPAIGN AD AND IT WILL
MAKE -- IT LOOKS SORT OF LIKE
THE PRESIDENT IS STANDING STRONG
AGAINST THIS KIND OF RIOTING AND
THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE.
AND IT’S JOE BIDEN’S JOB TO SAY,
I CONDEMN THE BURNING OF
BUSINESSES, WHILE I CAN ALSO
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE
COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT BROUGHT US
TO THIS POINT.
AND THEN HE HAS TO SAY, WHAT AM
I GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT.
>> EXACTLY RIGHT.
CHARLIE SYKES, THERE YOU ARE IN
WISCONSIN, AND SOME SURPRISING
NEW STATE POLLS INCLUDING ONE
FROM FOX NEWS ON WISCONSIN,
WHERE JOE BIDEN IS HOLDING AN
EIGHT-POINT LEAD IN YOUR STATE,
UP 50-42.
THAT’S PRETTY STRONG LEAD GIVEN
EVERYTHING THAT’S HAPPENED IN
KENOSHA, IT CERTAINLY REINFORCES
THE OTHER POLLING THAT THE LAW
AND ORDER MESSAGE MAY NOT BE
TAKING HOLD THE WAY THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN WANTS IT TO.
>> NO, I THINK IT’S VERY CLEAR
THAT AT THIS POINT THAT MESSAGE
ISN’T TAKING HOLD, THAT HE’S NOT
MAKING INROADS INTO THE STATES,
THE SUBURBS.
LOOK, WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO SEE
TODAY IS JOE BIDEN’S ABILITY TO
USE HIS SUPERPOWER, IF DONALD
TRUMP’S SUPERPOWER IS
SHAMELESSNESS, THEN JOE BIDEN’S
SUPERPOWER IS EMPATHY.
THAT’S THE KIND OF THING THAT
PLAYS WELL IN A STATE LIKE
WISCONSIN.
WE’RE INCREDIBLY POLARIZED,
WE’RE INCREDIBLY TRIBALIZED.
THE RACES HERE ARE ALWAYS CLOSE,
IT’S GOING TO BE CLOSE HERE.
BUT SO FAR, THE ATTEMPT TO SCARE
THE SUBURBAN HOUSEWIVES, OR
CHANGE THE ENTRENCHED NARRATIVE
IN WISCONSIN, JUST DOES NOT
WORK.
>> ED RENDELL, I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE POLLING IN
PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE OF COURSE
YOU WERE THE GOVERNOR, THE
MAYOR, THE D.A., YOU HELD EVERY
ELECTIVE OFFICE IN THE STATE.
TELLING A VERY DIFFERENT STORY,
JOE BIDEN UP ONLY 4 POINTS AMONG
REGISTERED VOTERS, AND THAT
NUMBER LIKELY SHRINKS AMONG
LIKELY VOTERS.
THERE’S BEEN SOME SMART ANALYSIS
ABOUT ELECTION DAY FOUR YEARS
AGO.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT YOU SAID
FOUR YEARS AGO ON ELECTION DAY
TO ME ABOUT THE CHANCES OF
DONALD TRUMP WINNING
PENNSYLVANIA.
>> LET ME SAY FIRST OF ALL, I
WOULDN’T ABSOLUTELY WRITE OFF
PENNSYLVANIA FROM DONALD TRUMP.
AS I SAID, THE TURNOUT’S GOOD IN
TRUMP AREAS, THE TURNOUT IS VERY
GOOD IN THE PHILADELPHIA
SUBURBS.
I DON’T THINK PENNSYLVANIA IS
OVER.
I THINK HILLARY IS LIKELY TO WIN
BY TWO OR THREE POINTS BUT I
DON’T THINK IT’S A -- ANYBODY
LISTENING TO US BETTER GET OUT
AND VOTE IF YOU WANT HILLARY
CLINTON TO BE PRESIDENT.
>> SO GOVERNOR RENDELL, FORMER
GOVERNOR RENDELL, YOU WERE SPOT
ON, YOU WERE POINTING THAT OUT,
AT THE TIME I SAID SOMETHING
LIKE, WAIT A SECOND, IF THAT’S
WHAT YOU’RE SAYING, HE MAY CARRY
PENNSYLVANIA, SHE MAY NOT WIN
IT.
AND YOU SAID, THAT’S RIGHT.
AND OF COURSE IT WAS QUITE A
SURPRISE, BECAUSE A REPUBLICAN
HAD NOT CARRIED PENNSYLVANIA
SINCE 1988.
>> YEAH, AND I THINK THE SAME
FACTORS ARE IN PLAY RIGHT NOW,
TODAY, ANDREA.
DONALD TRUMP IN POLLS, AND I
THINK THIS IS TRUE NOT JUST IN
PENNSYLVANIA, BUT HE ALWAYS RUNS
ABOUT TWO POINTS BETTER ON
ELECTION DAY THAN HE DOES IN
POLLS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME
PEOPLE WHO JUST WON’T ADMIT TO A
STRANGER THAT THEY’RE VOTING FOR
DONALD TRUMP.
THAT WAS THE CASE IN ’16 AND I
BELIEVE IT’S THE CASE IN 2020.
THE KEY BATTLEGROUNDS IN THIS
RACE WILL BE THE PHILADELPHIA
SUBURBS WHERE HILLARY CARRIED BY
180,000 VOTES, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO
WIN.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF
REFERENCE, WHAT CAN BE DONE IN
THE PHILADELPHIA SUBURBS, WHEN I
RAN FOR REELECTION IN 2006, I
CARRIED THE PHILADELPHIA SUBURBS
BY 480,000 VOTES.
NOW, I WAS A LOCAL GUY AND YOU
CAN’T EXPECT THAT IN A
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
BUT JOE BIDEN WILL DO BETTER
THAN HILLARY CLINTON IN THE
SUBURBS.
THE QUESTION IS WILL THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN BRING OUT NEW TRUMP
VOTERS.
ONE SCARY STATISTIC THAT NO ONE
TALKS ABOUT, AS OF PRIMARY DAY
THIS YEAR, REPUBLICANS HAD
REGISTERED 80,000 MORE NEW
VOTERS THAN DEMOCRATS.
NOW, I SUSPECT OUR REGISTRATION
EFFORTS OVER THE SUMMER HAVE CUT
INTO THAT GAP.
BUT THAT’S A SCARY NUMBER.
NUMBER TWO, THE POLLS SHOW JOE
BIDEN ISN’T DOING THAT MUCH
BETTER THAN HILLARY IN SCRANTON
