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CLOSED CAPTIONING
PROVIDED BY
THE STAFF
OF THE CHRISTIAN
TELEVISION NETWORK IN
CLEARWATER FLORIDA.
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>>ARTHELENE: HI THERE AND
WELCOME AND WELCOME TO
HOMEKEEPERS COME ON IN MY
FRIEND, I'M SO GLAD TO BE
HERE AND THANK YOU FOR
BEING THERE. WE HAVE BEEN
ON THE AIR FOR A LONG TIME
AND MAYBE THIS WOULD BE
YOUR FIRST TIME TO SEE THE
PROGRAM, WE TRY TO DEAL
WITH ANYTHING AND
EVERYTHING THAT WOULD
AFFECT YOUR HOME AND I
BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE
ANYTHING AT EVERY THING
AND ONE THING THAT WE DO
BRING TO YOU MANY TIMES
ARE THE STORIES OF THE
FAMILIES AND THOSE
HOMEKEEPERS AND THOSE WHO
REALLY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
AND THOSE WHO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE AND THE NATION.
I BELIEVE FOR MANY YEARS
AND IF WE COULD GET OUR
HOMES AND STRAIGHTENED OUT
AND RIGHT,, IN AMERICA
AMERICA WOULD BE JUST
FINE. AND WE NEED, WE
NEED GOD BACK IN THE
SCHOOLS, AND BACK IN THE
EVERYDAY LIVING AND
CERTAINLY BACK IN THE
HOME. AND I HOPE YOU
UNDERSTAND THIS WOULD BE
THE MESSAGE FROM US TO
YOU TODAY. I HAVE GOT A
REALLY INTERESTING STORY,
FOR YOU TODAY FROM CHRIS
WHALEY, AND HE IS ON STAFF
AT THE FIRST BAPTIST
CHURCH IN ORLANDO, THAT
WOULD BE A GREAT CHURCH
AND I WAS THERE MANY YEARS
AGO. AND HE WROTE THE
BOOK, THE MASKED SAINT. AND
THIS PERSON, AND THEY ARE
A WRESTLER, AND THIS
WOULD BE THE STORY OF MY
GUEST AND AS A YOUNG
PASTOR HE WAS WRESTLING IN
ORDER TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY
TO FEED THE FAMILY, AND
HE WOULD KEEP IT A SECRET
BECAUSE HE WOULD ALWAYS
PERFORM WITH A MASK. AND
YOU MIGHT SAY THAT SOUND
LIKE A MOVIE AND THAT
WOULD BE A MOVIE AND WE
CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT
THAT LATER ON, AND WE CAN
SHOW YOU A LITTLE VIDEO
CLIP AND I'M GLAD TO HAVE
CHRIS WITH ME TODAY. I AM
FASCINATED BY THE
WRESTLING AND I DON'T KNOW
WHY YOU WOULD DO IT, BUT
MY DADDY LOVED IT. IT WAS
FUN TO WATCH HIM REALLY
GET INTO THIS AND FOR THE
OLD DAYS AND THE BLACK AND
WHITE TELEVISION, AND
THERE WAS MORE
ENTERTAINMENT THAN SKILL.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT A
WRESTLING TODAY AND HE
DID USE THIS IN HIS
MINISTRY, I AM GETTING SO
MUCH OPPOSITION ON MY
RECIPE, AND I CAN FEEL A
CHILL COMING FROM SUSAN,
AND TO STEPHANIE, AND
EVEN BROOKE, AND YOU
KNOW, AND SHE WOULD BE
LIKE A LOVELY SUNFLOWER
AND I FEEL THE EDGE FROM
HER. BUT WOULD BE MAKING
SOME MARMALADE CANDY CARROTS.
AND YES, THIS IS CAUSING
ME TO HAVE SOMETHING CAN
THOUGHTS AND WE COULD GO
AHEAD, AND YOU MIGHT LIKE
IT AND BEFORE I JOIN
STEPHANIE OVER THERE IN
HER VERY BAD MOOD. I WANT
TO NOT ONLY REMIND YOU OF
OUR GUEST, AND THE BOOK
THAT HE HAS WRITTEN, BUT
ALSO, THE GUEST, THAT
WOULD BE COMING UP BECAUSE
OF YOU, AND BECAUSE WE
ARE VIEWERS SUPPORTED AND
WE THANK YOU FROM THE
BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR
THIS. AND IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE AND INVEST
INTO THE MINISTRY, THE
INFORMATION WOULD BE
COMING UP ON YOUR SCREEN
AND YOU CAN USE THE 800
NUMBER, AND MAYBE YOU
WOULD PAY ALL OF YOUR
DEBIT CARD AND YOU USE A
BANKCARD THE NUMBER WOULD
BE ON THE SCREEN AND THEY
PO BOX WOULD BE ON YOUR
SCREEN. AND I THANK YOU
AND I THANK YOU FROM THE
BOTTOM OF MY HEART. I
CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE
IT.
>>STEPHANIE: AND I'M NOT
IN A BAD MOOD. BUT I WANT
TO GET THROUGH THE EPISODE
WITHOUT MAKING ANY FACES.
>> LAUGHTER.
>>ARTHELENE: OKAY, AND
YOU DON'T LIKE THIS AND
YOU DON'T LIKE THE CARROT
CAKE?
>>STEPHANIE: AND I SAID 1
MILLION TIMES HERE I LIKE
TEXTURE, AND THIS
TEXTURE, THIS IS NOT GOOD
FOR ME.
>>ARTHELENE: I ALWAYS,
AND I HAVE MINE IS A
LITTLE CRUNCHY, I LIKE
THAT.
>>STEPHANIE: AND WE FORGOT
THESE, . AND I DON'T SAY
THESE ARE GOOD BE CRUNCHY
>>ARTHELENE: AND WE
REALLY, AND WE NEVER DID
HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANYTHING
QUITE LIKE THIS.
>>STEPHANIE: AND
SERIOUSLY. AND THIS
MORNING AND MAYBE GOING TO
THE HALL AND WANDA SAYS,
THERE IS SOMETHING SWEET,
AND THOSE WERE THE
CARROTS, AND I WENT
RUNNING DOWN THE HALLWAY,
AND ALL OF THE WATER HAD
BEEN BURNED OFF, AND WE
HAD THEM IN SOMETHING AND
THEY DID NOT BURN UP.
>>ARTHELENE: NOW LET ME
TELL YOU.
>>STEPHANIE: THAT WAS
CRAZY.
>>ARTHELENE: I LOVE THE
SIDE DISHES. AND IF I GO
TO A CHURCH DINNER, AND I
DON'T MESS WITH THE MEAT,
AND MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE
SOME POTATOES, I WILL
FILL UP ON THAT AND I SAW,
AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD
DECIDED DISH. AND YOU DID
CREATE A LOT OF DOUBT IN
THIS MIND OF MINE.
>>STEPHANIE: AND I CANNOT
EVEN TALK TODAY. AND WE
HAVE GOT SOMEBODY AND WE
OF GOT SOME BROWN SUGAR.
>>ARTHELENE: AND DO YOU
WANT TO TASTE IT?
>>STEPHANIE: I TOLD YOU
THAT I WOULD. AND THEN
I'VE GOT SOME AND THE
ONLY SAVING GRACE WOULD BE
RIGHT HERE.
>>ARTHELENE: AND I MUST
BE HONEST AND WHEN WE GOT
INTO THE RECIPE I WOULD
MAKE MORE OUT OF THE
SAUCE. AND I WOULD MAYBE
ADD SOME MUSTARD OR
SOMETHING. AND I WOULD
NOT USE THE BROWN SUGAR.
AND THIS WOULD BE MAKE,
AND THIS MAKES IT LIKE THE
CANDY.
>>STEPHANIE: AND THIS
WOULD MAKE IT LIKE THE
CANDY AND WE HAVE GOT THE
BROWN SUGAR AND THE
MARMALADE AND I'VE MADE A
MESS. AND I'M GOT A BE
COOKING IT DOWN, BUT DO
THIS LONG ENOUGH SO THIS
COULD REDUCE, AND WE
DON'T HAVE TIME FOR ALL OF
THIS AND WE CAN LET THIS
COOK FOR A MOMENT. AND I
DON'T HAVE ANY HELP. AND
YOU CAN ADD THE NUTS. AND
I WANT YOU TO PUT THIS IN
HERE.
>>ARTHELENE: OH, THAT YES,
YES.
>>STEPHANIE: AND THERE YOU
GO. YES. AND I'M TRYING
NOT TO MAKE A MESS. AND I
WANT TO STIR THIS UP, AND
LET IT STIR FOR ONE
MOMENT.
>>ARTHELENE: AND DON'T
YOU THINK MAYBE THAT YOU
COULD BE MORE
ADVENTURESOME WITH THE
SAUCE?
>>STEPHANIE: BUT THE
POINT WOULD BE TO FOLLOW
THE RECIPE.
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>>STEPHANIE: AND YES AND
YOU COULD USE ANYTHING
THAT YOU WANT, AND IT
WOULD STILL BE CARROTS.
AND SO YES, AND I AM
SMILING AND I DO NOT WANT
TO BE DISGUSTED.
>>ARTHELENE: AND YOU'LL
HAVE TO PRACTICE WHEN YOU
TASTE IT.
>>STEPHANIE: AND I WAS
PRACTICALLY, AND I WAS
TRYING THIS EARLIER. AND
YES AND YOU COULD PUT THIS
ALL IN HERE. AND I THINK,
THIS COULD BE NICER, AND
PRETTIER, AND THEY SHOULD
BE LONGER.
>>STEPHANIE: AND YES AND
THE PICTURE HAS THE LONG
ONES BUT YOU DON'T
PURCHASE THE LONGER ONES,
YOU DID NOT GET THE PRETTY
ONES.
>>ARTHELENE: AND MAYBE IF
I HAD DONE MORE LOOKING.
AND YES,
>>STEPHANIE: AND YES THAT
WOULD BE THE BEST.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WE COULD
CUT THESE IN HALF. AND IT
WOULD BE A LOT OF WAYS YOU
COULD DO THIS.
>>STEPHANIE: AND I WANT TO
CONTINUE. AND WE WANT TO
CONTINUE AND WE CAN HAVE A
SMALLER ONE AND I COULD
AN, I HAVE GOT
AN HIDDEN MOTIVE.
>>ARTHELENE: YOU
WILL LIKE IT.
>>STEPHANIE: AND I HOPE
THAT I DO. AND WE HAVE THE
BUTTER AND BROWN SUGAR AND
THE MARMALADE AND PECANS.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WE HAVE
THE CANDY? THESE WOULD BE
THE CANDY CARROTS? AND
THEY ARE PRETTY.
>>STEPHANIE: AND THERE IS
NOTHING PRETTY ABOUT THIS,
NO.
>> LAUGHTER.
>>STEPHANIE: NOW YES, AND
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE
COOKING AND THIS IS GOING
TO BE THICK. AND YES I
WILL LET YOU GO AHEAD.
AND HERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT
NOW. THERE YOU GO.
>>STEPHANIE:.... ..... .
>>ARTHELENE: I LIKE
THESE. I LIKE THE ORANGE
FLAVOR. I DO
>>STEPHANIE: YOU DO?
OKAY.
>>ARTHELENE: I WOULD FIX
IT YES, AFTER ALL OF THIS,
AND AFTER DOING NOTHING
BUT----.
>> LAUGHTER.
>> LAUGHTER.
>>ARTHELENE: YOU NEVER,
YOU NEVER HAVE TO WONDER
WHERE SHE STANDS AND YOU
CAN CIVILLY LOOK AT HER
FACE.
>>STEPHANIE: AND YOU KNOW
AND IF YOU LIKE CARROTS,
BUT I DON'T LIKE THESE, I
DON'T LIKE IT.
>>ARTHELENE: I AM
PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.
>>STEPHANIE: AND DO YOU
LIKE THE CARROTS ANYBODY
HERE? YOU COULD TRY IT.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WE HAVE
SOME THAT SAY THEY WANT
THEM. AND I LIKE IT, I
AM SURPRISED I DID LIKE
IT, AND IF YOU WANT THIS
BY ANY CHANCE, IT IS FREE.
>>STEPHANIE: AND DO NOT
LISTEN TO US.
>>ARTHELENE: AND ASK FOR
THE MARMALADE CANDY
CARROTS, AND YOU CAN
WRITE TO US VIA EMAIL AND
THEY ARE FREE NOT TRY IT
FOR YOURSELF NOW, THE
INFORMATION WOULD BE UP ON
YOUR SCREEN, AND YOU CAN
SEE A TRAILER FROM THE
MOVIE OF THE MASKED SAINT,
IT CAME OUT EARLIER, SO
TAKE A LOOK.
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COPY OF THE RECIPE YOU CAN
WRITE TO THE ADDRESS ON
YOUR SCREEN OR YOU CAN
EMAIL ARTHELENE AND THE
INFORMATION YOU SEE ON
YOUR SCREEN.
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>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
AND ONE OF THE BRAVEST ,
AM ONE OF THE STRONGEST,
>> APPLAUSE
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>> SOMETIMES BAD GUYS
MUST WIN.
>> WHISPERING
>> GO DO YOUR JOB.
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>> SCREAMING.
>> SCREAMING
>> YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A
MAN, WHO WOULD LOOK FOR
THAT SECOND CHANCE, AND
YOU CAN DO THAT IN YOUR
CHURCH.
>> AND PASTOR CHRIS
WELCOME TO WESTSIDE.
>> AND YOU KNOW AND WE
HAVE ALL OF THE BILLS,
AND WE HAVE NO WAY TO PAY
THE BILLS.
>> AND WE HAVE SO MANY
GANGS EVEN IN THE CHURCH.
>> AND SHALL WE PRAY?
>> REMEMBER THE WORLD
CAN ONLY BE CHANGED BY OUR
ACTIONS.
>> AND THIS WAS A MASKED
MAN,
>> AND WE HEAR THE
BIBLE, IT DOES NOT SAY
YOU SHALL NOT WRESTLE.
>> BUT YES, YOU ARE THE
CHAMPION. YES YOU ARE.
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TO QUIT.
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>> QUIT WHILE YOU ARE
AHEAD.
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>> THE LORD NEVER GIVES
US MORE THAN WE CAN
HANDLE.
>> I KNOW.
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>>ARTHELENE: AND MY
FRIEND, YOU SAW A LITTLE
PART OF THE MOVIE, IT WAS
CALLED THE MASKED SAINT,
AND THE BOOK, AND THIS IS
THE MAN HERE HE IS. AND
DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU
WERE LITTLE, YOU WOULD
GROW UP AND YOU KNOW YOU
WOULD BE A MASKED SAINT? AND
YOU WOULD WRESTLE, AND I
WOULD NOT SAY UNDER FALSE
PRETENSES, BUT NOBODY
KNEW WHO YOU WERE?.
>>GUEST: I WOULD NOT HAVE
THOUGHT OF IT, I WAS SICK
AS A CHILD IN AND OUT OF
THE HOSPITAL, I HAD POLIO
WHEN I WAS IN THE FOURTH
GRADE AND IN THE HOSPITAL
FOR THREE MONTHS, AND I
DID NOT PUT ON WEIGHT
UNTIL I WAS IN JUNIOR
HIGH. BUT GOD, BUT GOD CAN
DO THINGS WE WOULD NOT
THINK THAT HE MIGHT BE
ABLE TO DO.
>>ARTHELENE: EXACTLY AND
THIS MAN NOW, AND HE HAS
BEEN IN THE MINISTRY ALL
LONG TIME AND HE IS IN
FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AT
ORLANDO, AND THAT WOULD BE
A GREAT CHURCH AND WHEN I
WAS READING YOUR BOOK I
ALSO WAS THINKING, MAYBE
HOW COULD SOMEBODY WITH
YOUR MEDICAL HISTORY EVER
WIND UP BEING A WRESTLER?
HOWEVER, AND NOW LET'S
GO WAY BACK, AND WHAT KIND
OF HOME WERE YOU RAISED
IN? AND WHAT PUT YOU ON
THE COURSE THAT YOU
FINALLY TOOK?
>>GUEST: WELL, MY MOM,
SHE GREW UP IN JEHOVAH'S
WITNESS. AND SHE WOULD BE
THE BEGINNING OF THE
FAMILY HERITAGE, AND MY
FATHER WAS A REDNECK,
5TH DEGREE AND THEY MOVED.
AND HE WAS A 5TH DEGREE REDNECK
>>ARTHELENE: AND YES,
THAT WOULD BE WHERE
YOU ARRIVE.
>>GUEST: AND THEY CAME TO
FLORIDA, AND MY FATHER
WAS ON A TRIP AND THAT WAS
A PASTOR HE WAS KNOCKING
ON OUR DOOR, AND MY
MOTHER SAID CANNOT WHEN I
WAS GROWING UP, I COULD
NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS AND
I'VE GOT ALL THESE
QUESTIONS, AND I AM
PRAYING FOR YOU TO COME
IN. HE CAME IN, AND SHE
ASKED HER QUESTIONS ON HER
HEART, AND BEFORE HE LEFT,
THEY PRAYED AND JESUS CAME
IN, AND THAT WAS THE
BEGINNING OF OUR FAMILY
FOR OUR SPIRITUAL
HERITAGE. . IT WOULD BE
ONE IN 1 MILLION AND I
WAS SIMPLY A LITTLE BOY. .
MAYBE EIGHT YEARS OLD AND
MY MOTHER BEGAN TO GO TO
CHURCH, AND MY FATHER WAS
SAVED WHEN I WAS A
TEENAGER, AND I RECEIVED
CHRIST WHEN I WAS IN
COLLEGE THE FRESHMAN YEAR.
>>ARTHELENE: AND DID THAT
CHANGE YOUR FATHER?
>>GUEST: AND WHEN MY
FATHER WAS SAVED, HE WAS
RADICALLY CHANGED.
>>ARTHELENE: BUT WHAT
WAY?
>>GUEST: HE WAS SAVED ON
A SUNDAY NIGHT WITH THE
PASTOR WAS PREACHING ON
GIVING.
>>ARTHELENE: AND THAT
MUST BE A FIRST.
>>GUEST: THAT WOULD BE A
MIRACLE IN ITSELF. AND MY
DAD, UNTIL HE DIED, HE WAS
ONE OF THE STRONGEST
GIVERS I KNOW. HE WAS A
WONDERFUL MAN.
>>ARTHELENE: THAT WOULD
BE WONDERFUL. NOW, AS A
CHILD, YOU ARE VERY SICK,
AND YOU HAD ENCEPHALITIS
AND POLIO? AND HOW DID
YOU GET WELL, AND I WANT
TO GET THE SEQUENCING AND
HOW COULD YOU GET THIS AND
YOU WENT TO SEMINARY? DID
YOU DO THAT AFTER MARY?
>>GUEST: YES, I HAD A
WONDERFUL PRECIOUS GODLY
DOCTOR AND WINTERHAVEN,
AND HIS NAME WAS, I WILL
NOT SAY, HE WAS A
WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL GUY.
HE WOULD NOT LET ME GIVE
UP. HE GOT ME, I WOULD GO
TO THE GYMNASIUM, I WAS
WORKING OUT, I WAS DOING
THESE THINGS I HAD NEVER
NOT BEFORE. AND ONCE THIS
AND WHEN I CALVED BEING
SICK ALL THE TIME IT WAS
MY ALLERGIES AND THIS GOT
UNDER CONTROL AND WHEN
THEY FOUND OUT I WAS
ALLERGIC TO 200 THINGS, I
STARTED TO GAIN WEIGHT,
AND I WOULD GO TO THE GYM
AND WORKING OUT.
>>ARTHELENE: DID YOU HAVE
ANY PARALYSIS BECAUSE OF
THE POLIO.
>>GUEST: I HAD TO
LEARN BECAUSE MY LEGS WERE
TURNING IN. AND YES, AND
THEY HAD A VACCINE, AND I
DID SLIP THROUGH. AND
ONCE I STARTED TO GAIN
WEIGHT, AND ME AND MY
WIFE WE GRADUATED FOR THE
COLLEGE AND WE CAME BACK
TO CENTRAL FLORIDA, . I
WAS IN THE BEST SHAPE I'VE
EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE I
LOVE PROFESSIONAL
WRESTLING AND I WOULD
WATCH IT IN THE HOSPITAL,
AND I WOULD COME HOME
LATE, I WOULD WATCH. AND
ONE DAY I SAW THE TAMPA
TRIBUNE, THEY WANTED
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLERS. I
SHOWED THAT TO MY WIFE AND
MY WIFE WAS A MATHEMATICS
TEACHER.
>>ARTHELENE: WHAT DID YOU
NEED TO DO?
>>GUEST: AND WHEN I WENT
IN, AND I ANSWERED, I SAW
THE GREAT BLANCO, HE WAS
MY TRAINER, HE WAS MY
TRAINER. AND THEY DID NOT
HAVE ANY TRAINING. AND I
WAS TRAINED.
>>ARTHELENE: .NOT TELL ME
AND MY FATHER WOULD WATCH
YOU GORGEOUS GEORGE
>>GUEST: OH, I REMEMBER
HIM, OH YES.
>>ARTHELENE: HE THOUGHT IT
WAS ALL REAL.
>>GUEST: WELL.
>>ARTHELENE: AND YOU
COULD NOT TELL HIM HE
WOULD NOT BE REAL?
>>GUEST: IT WOULD BE HARD
TO FAKE A BODY SLAM, AND
MY INJURIES, I HAVE HAD A
CRUSHED ANKLE, AND I HAVE
TORN ALL MY KNEE JOINTS
UP, AND I HAVE GOT NO
CARTILAGE IN MY KNEES OR
MY HIPS, AND I'VE BROKEN
MY RIBS AND MY STERNUM,
AND MY COLLARBONE,
AND I BROKE MY NOSE
SIMILAR TIMES I CANNOT
BREATHE. AND I HAVE HAD
MORE CONCUSSIONS THAN ALL
OF THE QUARTERBACKS PUT
TOGETHER.
>>ARTHELENE: BUT WHY?
WHY DO IT?
>>GUEST: I LOVED IT. I
LOVED IT. IT WAS GREAT.
>>ARTHELENE: AND I
WONDER IT DOES LOOK SO
VIOLENT. AND HOW WOULD
THAT DIFFER FROM BOXING
AND WHAT MIGHT COME TO THE
INJURIES? AND WERE YOU A
BOXER?
>>GUEST: WELL, NOT
PROFESSIONALLY AND I DID
NOT. AND BOXING, AND WE
HAD A LOT OF HEAD
INJURIES, AND YOU WOULD
BE HIT IN THE HEAD AND THE
RIBS AND FOR THE SITE AND
THINGS LIKE THIS.
WRESTLING, YOU WOULD BE
DOING SO MUCH, YOU WOULD
BE DOING SO MUCH INSIDE
THE RING, OUTSIDE OF THE
RING AND ON THE ROPES,
AND I WOULD THINK THAT WE
HAVE GOT A LOT MORE
INJURIES THAN THEY DO.
>>ARTHELENE: AND THE LIST
THAT YOU GAVE ME AND I
WOULD SAY THAT I AGREE,
AND THAT WOULD POINT, AND
WHEN DO YOU FEEL THE CALL
TO THE MINISTRY? AND WHEN
DID YOU DECIDE, THAT YOU
WOULD GO TO SEMINARY
BECAUSE YOU ESTABLISHED AT
THAT POINT?
>>GUEST: YES I WAS. I
FELT THE CALL OF THE
MINISTRY MY WORST YEAR
WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. I
WOULD SPEAK TO MY PASTOR
ABOUT IT, AND I WOULD
SPEAK TO THE OTHER PASTORS
ABOUT IT. . AND I WAS
PRETTY SURE MY CALLING
AND WHEN WE GRADUATED FROM
COLLEGE, I CAME BACK HERE,
I HAD AN EXPERIENCE WITH
A YOUTH MINISTER, IT WAS
NOT A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND
I WAS SOURED TO BE HONEST,
ABOUT THE MINISTRY.
>>ARTHELENE: IT WAS
TOUGH?
>>GUEST: I WAS OUT OF THE
MINISTRY FOR SIX YEARS. I
STARTED WRESTLING, AND I
DID MY STAND, AND THEN I
WAS OUT OF THE MINISTRY
FOR SIX YEARS. AND THEN
WHEN GOD GOT MY ATTENTION
ONE NIGHT WITH ME AND MY
WIFE AND WE WERE GOING
AROUND THE LAKE WITH OUR
CHILDREN, AND I SAID I
MUST DO WHAT GOD WANTS.
AND SHE HAD BEEN WAITING.
AND WE MOVED TO FORT
WORTH, AND THEN I WENT TO
THE BIBLE SEMINARY THERE.
>>ARTHELENE: AND THEN YOU
HAD MADE? YOUR LOVELY
HOME, AND SO I WOULD GIVE
KUDOS TO YOUR WIFE, AND
MANY TIMES, THE WOMEN
DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE
HOME. AND IF YOU WOULD BE
JUST JOIN ME I'M SPEAKING
WITH CHRIS AND HE HAS
WRITTEN THE BOOK, THE MASKED
SAINT. AND WE CAN GET
INTO THIS, AND THE
MOVIE IS AVAILABLE NOW,
AND THIS CAME OUT EARLIER
IN THE YEAR AND THIS WOULD
BE AND THIS WOULD BE YOUR
STORY, RIGHT?
>>GUEST:. YES, MA'AM
>>ARTHELENE: AND SO, AS
A YOUTH PASTOR, WERE YOU
WRESTLING UNDER THE WIRE
THEN? AND MAYBE THE
CHURCH DID NOT KNOW WHAT?
>>GUEST: AND MY WIFE WAS
PREGNANT, AND I WAS
MAKING AND I WAS MAKING
$12,000 AND WE WERE
STARVING, AND I TOLD THE
PASTOR, I COULD WRESTLE AND
THAT COULD HELP ME
FINANCIALLY AND HE SAID
NO, AND HE SAID I WOULD
NOT BE A CIRCUS MEMBER.
AND WHEN I SAW MY FRIENDS
ON TV, HE HAS WEARING A
MASK. AND I WAS USING MY
OWN NAME AND I GOT A WHITE
CLOTHING, AND I WAS THE
SAINT. AND NOBODY KNEW
WHO I WAS BECAUSE I WORE A
MASK.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WAS THIS
WHEN YOU WERE THE YOUTH
PASTOR? THE PASTOR DID NOT
KNOW? AND SO YOU PUT FOOD
ON THE TABLE?
>>GUEST: I WAS NOT
HURTING ANYBODY, I DID MY
JOB. I WOULD DO THE BEST
I COULD
>>ARTHELENE: DID ANYBODY
KNOW YOU?
>>GUEST: NO, AND WHEN I
WOULD GO TO THE CHURCH,
AND MAYBE I WOULD GET A
BLACK EYE AND A BROKEN
NOSE, AND THEY WOULD SAY
WHAT HAPPENED AND I WOULD
SAY THAT I HAD FALLEN
DOWN, AND THEY THOUGHT
THEY HAD THE CLUMSY US
YOUTH PASTOR IN THE WORLD.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WHEN YOU
GAVE ME THE LIST OF
INJURIES, I HAD NEVER
HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS
IN MY LIFE, EVER. AND SO,
AND YOU MOVED AND THEIR
YOU BECAME THE SENIOR
PASTOR? DID YOU WRESTLE
ANYMORE?
>>GUEST: I DID THIS IN
FORT WORTH WHEN I WAS AT
THE SEMINARY, AND I WAS
WRESTLING WITH SOME OF THE
INDEPENDENCE, AND ALL
OVER THE SOUTHEAST. AND
WHEN I GRADUATED FROM THE
COLLEGE IN 1988 I WENT TO
THE FIRST CHURCH, AND
AFTER GOING THERE, AND
THIS IS WHEN THINGS
STARTED TO HAPPEN, AND
THIS IS IN MY BOOK.
>>ARTHELENE: AND YES, FOR
THE BOOK, AND BEACH I TOO
WANT TO KNOW HOW TO SAY
IT, AND YOU STOOD UP AND
WHEN YOU SAW SOMETHING
THAT WOULD BE WRONG.
>>GUEST: AND THIS IS AN
EVIL AND FALLEN WORLD.
AND THERE ARE MANY EVIL
PEOPLE. AND YOU KNOW,
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE
CHURCHES WOULD BE
SURPRISED AND THE ABUSE
CASES IN THE CHURCH, AND
THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY,
THE FIRST ONE, AND SHE
WAS VERY SHY, AND ONE
SUNDAY, AND SHE CAME TO
CHURCH WITH SUNGLASSES.
AND SHE TOOK MY HAND, AND
I COULD SEE SHE WAS
CRYING. AND THEN I SAW
SHE HAD BLACK EYES. AND I
SAID I WILL GO SEE YOUR
HUSBAND. AND I SAID I'M
NOT WORRIED ABOUT HIM
HURTING ME. AND I SAW HIM
AND I SAID YOU KNOW, I
WANT YOU TO KNOW ANY MAN
THAT WOULD HIT A WOMAN
WOULD BE A DIRT BAG. AND
YOU ARE A BULLY, AND YOU
KNOW AND THE BULLIES PICK
ON THOSE THEY COULD BEAT,
AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY AND I WANT YOU
TO FIGHT WITH ME. AND HE
NEVER HIT HER AGAIN.
>>ARTHELENE: AND THE BOOK
AND THE BOOK HAS SO MANY
STORIES LIKE THIS. AND
DID YOU HIT HIM?
>>GUEST: LET'S SAY HE
NEVER HIT HER AGAIN.
>>ARTHELENE: I LOVE THIS
AND I LOVE IT. OKAY,AND
YOU HAVE SOMETHING HERE
NOW LET ME SEE,
>>GUEST: AND THIS WOULD BE
MY CHAMPIONSHIP BELT. AND
THIS WOULD BE FROM THE
VFW. AND THIS WAS THE
BELT FOR THE MOVIE, AND
WHEN YOU SEE THE MOVIE AND
YOU SEE, AND YOU SEE THE
AD GUY, HE HAS THE BELT
THIS WAS THE BELT.
>>ARTHELENE: I WISH YOU
COULD SEE HOW HEAVY IT IS.
IT IS VERY BEAUTIFUL.
>>GUEST: THANK YOU.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WHAT,
AND THIS WOULD BE THE MOST
UNUSUAL STORY THAT I'VE
EVER HEARD, AND I HAVE
FOUND THE BOOK SO
FASCINATING, AND WE DO
HAVE A WEBSITE, AND YOU
COULD GET ALL OF THE
MATERIAL THROUGH THE
WEBSITE, AND THIS WOULD
BE THE MOVIE ON THE DVD
AND THE BOOK. AND THIS
WOULD BE THE MASKED SAINT,
AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD
THING THEY MADE A MOVIE, I
HAVE NEVER, AND I KNOW
MANY PEOPLE SIT HERE, AND
I HAVE NEVER HEARD
ANYTHING LIKE THIS. AND
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO
BE AND LET'S SAY AND WHAT
WOULD BE AND WHAT WOULD
YOU SAY? TO BE A
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER?
AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU WOULD BE UP AGAINST?
AND HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT YOUR OPPONENT?
>>GUEST: IN MY DAY, AND I
WOULD WRESTLE FROM 1978 TO
88. AND IN MY DAY, I DID
NOT KNOW WHO I WOULD
WRESTLE WHEN I WOULD SHOW
UP, I WOULD BE WITH THE
UNDERTAKE ON ONE NIGHT, I
NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE
HIM. AND THE MAN THAT
SHOULD'VE WORKED, HE DID
NOT SHOW UP AND SO I
WRESTLED WITH THESE
PEOPLE, MANY ONES,
WRESTLING IS SO DIFFERENT,
SINCE MY TIME.
>>ARTHELENE: IS IT BETTER
TODAY?
>>GUEST: NO IT WAS BETTER
WHEN I DID IT. AND STILL.
>>ARTHELENE: AND I READ
HERE SOMEWHERE, AND WHERE,
A PROMOTER TOLD YOU, HOW
LONG AND HOW LONG IT WOULD
LAST AND WHO WOULD WIN?
>>GUEST: YOU KNEW WHO
WOULD WIN AND YOU KNEW WHO
WOULD LOSE.
>>ARTHELENE: BUT HOW DO
THEY KNOW?
>>GUEST: AND THE PROMOTER
MAKES THE DECISION.
>>ARTHELENE: I AM LET
DOWN.
>>GUEST: WELL, AND YOU
STILL HAVE TO DO THE WORK.
AND YOU KNOW, IT NEVER
BOTHERED ME, AND I WOULD
THINK I WOULD DO MY BEST,
AND WHATEVER I WOULD BE ON
THAT NIGHT, AND WHEN I
WOULD DO MY BEST AND THIS
IS WHAT I WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT AND I WANTED TO DO
MY VERY BEST.
>>ARTHELENE: AND WHAT
WOULD BE SO GOOD ABOUT
YOUR BOOK, AND THE
WEBSITE WOULD BE UP ON THE
SCREEN. AND THE WAY THAT
YOU WOULD USE THE GIFT,
YOUR TALENT. TO MAKE
THESE THINGS RIGHT. AND
THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN
AND THESE THINGS WOULD
COME UP IN YOUR WALK EVEN
IN YOUR MINISTRY. AND
SOMEHOW, YOU HAD THE
COURAGE TO CONFRONT IT.
>>ARTHELENE: WELL, THAT
WOULD BE A COUPLE OF
THINGS AND I WANT PEOPLE
TO GET THIS FROM THE BOOK
AND THE MOVIE, AND ONE OF
THEM WOULD BE AND THAT THE
CHURCH IS ON THE
SIDELINES. AND WE ARE
WATCHING, AND THERE ARE
THOSE THAT WOULD BE
SUFFERING ABUSE, BUT WE
SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND
IT CONTINUES. AND SO,
AND MANY PEOPLE NEED TO
GET UP OFF OF OUR BLESSED
ASSURANCE AND GET IN THE
GAME, AND WE NEED TO
PROTECT, AND WE SHOULD
PROTECT THOSE THAT CANNOT
PROTECT THEMSELVES. THIS
IS WHAT I DO IN THE MOVIE.
AND MANY OF THE
INTERVIEWS THAT I'VE DONE
OVER THE LAST YEAR,
THEY SAY I AM A VIGILANTE
BUT I'M NOT, I DO WHAT IS
RIGHT. AND THE LORD
CLEANED OUT OF THE TEMPLE
WITH A WITH, AND I AM
IMAGINING THAT WOULD SHOCK
SOME PEOPLE. BUT YOU MUST
DO IT, THAT WOULD BE THE
NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE
CANNOT ALLOW ABUSE TO
CONTINUE. AND ALSO, AND WE
SERVE THE GOD OF THE
SECOND CHANCE, AND THE
THIRD AND THE FOURTH. AND
I WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THE
SECOND CHANCE AT MANY
TIMES, AND THERE ARE
THOSE SITTING AT HOME,
THAT WOULD BE NO PLACE FOR
THEM, AND I WANT YOU TO
KNOW THAT WOULD BE MANY
BROKEN PEOPLE LIKE ME IN
THE CHURCH, AND THERE IS
ROOM FOR EVERYBODY.
>>ARTHELENE: WHAT AN
AMAZING STORY AND I PRAY
THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE WEBSITE, AND THIS HAS
BEEN UP ON THE SCREEN FOR
MORE DETAIL, AND WE COULD
NOT SUPPLY THIS IN THE
PROGRAM. AND WHAT A
STORY, AND TO REALIZE,
THAT GOD HAS SO MANY WAYS
IN HIS KINGDOM FOR HIS
WORK TO BE DONE, AND THIS
IS A VERY REFRESHING
STORY. AND WE ARE OUT OF
TIME AND PLEASE, JOIN ME
AGAIN AND REMEMBER THAT
WOULD BE NO HIGHER CALLING
THAN THAT OF THE HOME
KEEPER AND GOD BLESS YOU.
>> IF YOU SHOULD MISS A
PROGRAM YOU CAN CATCH UP,
AND YOU COULD GO TO THE
WEBSITE YOU SEE ON YOUR
SCREEN, YOU CAN CLICK TO
THE PROGRAMMING SECTION
AND GO TO HOMEKEEPERS.
WATCH ONLINE AND
ON-DEMAND.
>> CLOSED CAPTIONING
PROVIDED BY THE STAFF OF
THE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
NETWORK IN CLEARWATER,
FLORIDA.
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