>> Joe Biden gave the DNC speech last night,
of course it was the last night of the Democratic
Convention and he did well. He delivered a
fine speech. I did not expect conservatives
to line up in congratulating him and complimenting
him on that speech, but that's certainly happened.
So Fox News hosts like Bret Baier, a conservative
guy said this. He's not known for his public
speaking, but this after seeing him speak
on the stump many, many times, was the best
he's been as far as his delivery. This is
what he needed to do with this crowd and the
crowd around the country.
And the underlying message with Biden was
one of unity, he talked about the importance
of battling and combating this pandemic. He
talked about the need to battle racism in
this country. He also talked about getting
the economy back on track, not just for wall
street but but for everyone in this country.
So, whether you believe him or not is one
thing but the delivery of his speech was good.
And one of the conservatives who actually
had some complimentary things to say was Chris
Wallace, let's hear what he said.
>> I thought it was an enormously effective
speech. Remember, Donald Trump has been talking
for months about Joe Biden as mentally short,
a captive of the left.
And I guess, Biden is reading from a teleprompter
and a prepared speech but I thought that he
blew a hole, a big hole on that characterization.
It seems to me that after tonight, Donald
Trump is gonna have to run against a candidate,
not a caricature. The Democrats have had a
good convention.
Now it's the Republicans.
>> But, Chris Wallace wasn't the only conservative
who said nice things about Biden. Here's Dana
Perino.
>> The other night I said that Michelle Obama
stuck the landing I think keeping with that
theme that Joe Biden just hit a home run in
the bottom of the night.
Which I think I got that right in terms of
the sports. He had pace, rhythm, energy, emotion
and delivery. So I think that if he looks
back, he's got to say. That's probably the
best speech of his life and he really just
took the moment and I love that.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. So I figured out why they're doing
this. Look, Ana and I covered the speech and
I was relieved. I was like, okay, good. He
did a good job, I'm happy, right? And everybody's
gushing about how it was the greatest speech
he's ever given. I'm like, have they not watched
any politics?
I mean, of course, unsurprisingly MSNBC was
beside themselves. They are like, my God,
what has he done, just let it graze? Right?
So, now the reality is it was good speech,
but I've actually watched dozens of Biden's
speeches, and there were much better ones.
Like when he's in a crowd and he works the
crowd.
Look, some of you might even remember our
2016 coverage, because we've covered all these
conventions for 18 years. And so when Biden
does the like, no, no, wait, wait, wait guys,
now when the crowd is cheering. And he's like,
this is serious, this isn't political. And
you'll see, I wish maybe we should have pulled
an old clip for you guys.
I came back from that speech in 2016, I was
like, see that was a fun speech. That was
a really good speech by Joe Biden. And that
was at a time when I was not at all excited
about the Democratic Party. But I was not
excited about Hillary Clinton, but I said
credit where credit is due Joe really did
a great job.
But at the time, Joe's not that important,
so nobody has to bother kissing his ass. So
for the non-Fox News people now that he's
likely to be president. I got hugs, my, didn't
you see what did? My god, right? Now for the
Fox News people is a different reason.
I think that they really believed what Trump
was saying. So they expected Joe Biden to
come out and fall on his face and go, right?
And they are like, wait, he can speak? He
just gave a speech, they are like, wow. That's
why they come back, they're like, home run
in the bottom of the night, nobody saw that
coming.
Cuz I think these schmucks at least halfway
believe Trump's lies.
>> So okay, this is my read of it. I think
everyone hates Trump, with the exception of
his base, right? So I don't know, somewhere
between 30 35% of the country, they're avid
Trump supporters no matter what.
But people in the media, politicians including
Republican lawmakers, I think that they despise
Trump. But I also think that they're afraid
of Trump and more importantly they're afraid
of Trump's base. I think that they're all
secretly crossing their fingers and hoping
that Biden wins, because how could you not?
I mean, at this point when you see how little
Trump cares about democracy. When you see
how little he cares about the rule of law,
when you see how he wants to be like a full
blown dictator. Who just completely does away
with our system of checks and balances.
You might be a hardcore Republican, but you
can't say that you genuinely care about this
country and you want to maintain democracy.
While also simultaneously supporting a guy
who wants to completely dismantle it. So I
don't know, I feel like every once in a while,
and to be fair to Chris Wallace.
Chris Wallace has been pretty decent throughout
the Trump administration. And what I mean
by that, is as a conservative he's been willing
to speak out against Trump. But Dana Perino?
That's kind of surprising and then, by the
way, it wasn't just Perino. It was also Laura
Ingraham and this is my favorite video because
you should pay close attention to Don Jr's
face as Ingraham shares her thoughts.
>> But he didn't beat the expectations Don,
I mean, people were expecting him to flub
every line and have a senior moment. And it
isn't just in delivery and I don't think it
was devoid of most any policy other than universal
masking. But he delivered though, he delivered
a good speech and it was for what he was doing.
Very emotional, the emotional stuff, walk
down memory lane and so forth. It was it was
fairly well.
>> Laura but he also lied-
>> He don't like that. So let's take a look
at the side by side of Don Jr. There's happy
Don Jr. when he thinks that they're gonna
trash Biden, and then there is sad Don Jr.
She's saying nice things about Biden I don't
like that.
>> Okay, so I think first of all, Anna I really
like your theory and I agree with that too.
I think that even the Fox News guys they,
minus Laura Ingraham, I'm gonna get to her
in a second. But like the Wallace and the
Perinos and stuff they think like, look during
the Biden administration we're gonna kick
his ass anyway.
We'll get branca ratings, it doesn't really
matter. This guy is like we got to get this
albatross off our neck. And so I would be
shocked if Chris Wallace voted for Donald
Trump, shocked. And mainly based on his intelligence,
he's just whether you agree with him on policy
or not.
He's just too smart to vote for Trump. I mean,
you gotta lose a good 50 IQ points from Wallace
to get to a Trump voter. So is Wallace secretly
thinking like? There is more out. Yeah, it
could be, if Perino and many others Karl Rove,
etc. But Laura Ingraham is a true believer,
okay.
And a true fascist. I think she's in the category
I was talking about earlier, where she's like?
I kept telling everybody that he just was
an old and senile and he was gonna fall down
right in the middle of the speech. But he
didn't, he just delivered a fine speech.
I think she was genuinely surprised.
>> Yeah, that's true. And remember, Ingraham
does go in whatever direction she needs to
go to remain relevant. I mean she's like the
Lindsey Graham of the media world, right?
And already based on the hot gas from Ben
Sherman over at Vanity Fair, she's planning
her next move, right?
She knows Limbaugh is sick, is not gonna be
around much longer. I'm gonna stop myself
from saying inappropriate things. So she's
angling to take his place. Now he's a horrible
person, Rush Limbaugh is an awful person.
And honestly, I don't feel bad about the terrible
things I'm thinking right now cuz he deserves
it, but I won't repeat them right now.
But you can guess what I'm thinking.
>> Yeah. Okay, but you at least have the decency
to check yourself on those thoughts. Whereas
Laura Ingraham, who's supposed to be his friend
and ally, is planning how she's gonna take
his job at the funeral. So, mm-hm gee, I wonder
who's the worst guy.
And of course just yesterday, we reported
on as you put it, and now my favorite new
phrase the hot gas.
>> Even Hannity and his staff thinks Trump
is crazy, and they don't know what to do with
it. So even those guys, the core of the core
is like, we could just go back to lying about
Democrats and pretending everything isn't
ours.
By the way, think about it, if you're a Fox
News host, if a Democrat was in office now,
my god, you'd be having a field day. You'd
be like 175,000 dead, 20 million unemployed,
can you believe Biden said inject bleach into
your body? What a fool, impeach him, hang
him.
They'd be burning him in effigy right now.
And they're exhausted from trying to defend
this moron, Donald Trump. So yeah, I think
your theory is a pretty good one.
>> And then one final quote and this comes
from another conservative Karl Rove. Here
are his thoughts on Biden speech.
He had a balancing act here tonight. He was
trying to balance two different things. One
was portraying himself as a unifier who would
bring the country together. He did so very
effectively and if I were a Republican strategist
in the Trump campaign, I'd be worried about
how long and how effectively he carries that
theme forward.
Because that's the thing that will keep the
swing voters in his camp, if they are in his
camp, or bring them to him. So he's essentially
saying that Biden's play here is very effective.
And I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna be a bad guy
and mention Trump's tweet today.
Which was about, 15 minutes before we started
airing the post game. Out of nowhere, okay?
Trump decided to tweet about his brother who
passed away and he just wrote, Robert I love
you rest in peace. My favorite tweets in response
to that were, who's Robert? Because he never
talked about his brother.
He never talked about his brother, he never
like, he never shows any tenderness or love
toward anyone in his family. And what did
we see from Biden last night? I mean, it was
non-stop family, family, family family, fam.
I love my family. I call my granddaughters
every day, famil.
Like there's that human side of Biden that
I think does appeal to people. Politics aside,
you have to think about average voters and
what appeals to people and especially at a
time like now and things are so divisive and
so awful. Seeing someone who, well first off
can deliver a speech and be competent while
they're delivering the speech.
And second of all, shows their human side
is just appealing to people overall. And I
think Trump is like, I don't know, let me
try it. Brother died while ago, I'd never
really talked about him, but let me put out
a tweet. That's my take, maybe I'm a bad guy
for saying it.
But come on, when has Trump ever done anything
that wasn't based on his own self- interest?
When?
>> Yeah, we don't have to be gentle about
it. Now they did a memorial service today.
I don't know these traditions, I don't know
if you're supposed to do it a week later.
But there's no question that Trump can see
that, in his view of the world. Biden grieving
about his family is getting good ratings.
And he's like, good God, I was supposed to
grieve about the family, we're supposed to
pretend we cared about that. He's your brother,
you actually could have just tried caring
about him.
When he died, on that day when Trump didn't
know that it was gonna get good ratings. He
mainly talked about how Roger thought he was
such a great president. Like no anecdotes
about Roger himself, or how much he loves
Roger. Now it gets good ratings and all of
a sudden, Roger I miss you-
>> I think it's Robert.
>> I got a hole in my heart just like Biden
said, hole in my heart, that's what it is.
>> Yeah, it's Robert but I don't blame you
for not knowing cuz he never talked about
his brother ever. You called him Roger.
>> Well, that's probably because he actually
likes Roger Stone and so it's
>> Yeah.
>> He would probably grieve over that. Anyway,
one last thing. Karl Rove wants a job in the
Trump campaign. So that quote was perfect
for, now look, if you wanted to keep two swing
voters and you wanted to get the right banners,
I guess you wanna hire someone who's done
it before but.
So Biden could win if you go the wrong direction,
but you could win if you go in the right direction.
The only thing that was missing from that
Karl Rove's quote was, a wink
