so who are those talking heads in this
video Reaper and I spill our guts to
tell you about our metal origins so on
heavy metal relics you hear a lot about
the stuff that we do like and the stuff
that we want to talk about just usually
old stuff and new stuff kind of a little
bit of everything but in this video we
wanted to talk more about our
experiences and what got us into metal
in the first place pretty much why did
we even start liking it well starting it
off then bridge you're going to take the
hot seat as always hot seat so tell us
tell me tell the viewers what is your
introduction into metal
I had a neighbor that moved in next door
to me and that she was a metalhead chick
honestly she had long hair always
wearing metal shirts and stuff
and I was like that girl seems really
cool so I became friends with her and
she was pretty cool she introduced me to
a lot of metal that I didn't know about
at the time yeah we're at all honestly
anything in particular
I'm overkill oh I was one of those bands
remember what L uh I want if they feel
the fire sounds like a cool friend yeah
but she I remember she had this shirt to
feel the fire and I was like that that
girl is actually really cool she likes
cool stuff so I want to be friends with
this girl but she was really big into
like Campbell corpse and like the
heavier stuff and I always thought that
was really cool so I became friends with
her later on after that I kind of got
more into the punk hardcore scene
throughout high school I even went
through a straightedge seek up the
straightedge seeing I was like oh I'm
straight I just like what am I thinking
I'm only 18 years old
likewise orchestrated yeah all right
zombies very night I can't I gotta go
out drinkin stuff yeah but I really got
into liking hardcore and stuff from my
love of art and what kind of inspired
that was the artist Derek Hess and if
you're not familiar with him he's a
Cleveland artist and he's done a lot of
posters flyers album cover
for different hardcore bands not just
local to Cleveland but kind of
all-around I actually ended up going to
Cleveland Institute of Art which is
where he went and it's not because I was
like that big of a fan but right my
grandma also went there too so it was
kind of like a college I really wanted
to get into for more of like my family
history and the fact that these really
cool people came out of that you know
that Institute's yes
Iron Maiden Metallica the two bands
combined which really got me into liking
more metal stuff um but then 80 years
went on as I got to my 20s and stuff
that's when I had all these friends that
would introduce me to way cooler shit
like stuff that I never heard of and I
really attribute a lot of those people
to helping me develop my taste in metal
because without people like Paul Gore
fein from a bomber and some other
friends that you know I had stuff I feel
like they really introduced me to a lot
more of the brutal stuff yeah because he
wasn't big into like death metal and
everything um so it was really cool
because I would honestly not know a lot
about any of these bands if it wasn't
for him if it wasn't for hanging out at
his house listening to records all the
time him showing me stuff like hey check
this out you're gonna like this it was
heavy if you like this you're gonna like
this if you like that you're like you
know and to me that was like really
awesome that somebody would take the
time to show me their love of metal you
know and help me develop my taste for it
as well and also recommend classic stuff
that is awesome like not he didn't have
a bad taste in music so jomi really cool
stuff well you know I think that's the
metal spirit though - you don't you
don't really have an objective or
anything is you just excited to find
someone because you are kind of an
outcast in many ways that yeah to meet
someone that's into it as well very
interested at least if you can't find a
place where you fit in
yeah but like when you do find that
place it's like it all comes together
most of the people that say they like
metal though they like Pantera like what
I said once I was growing up you know
yeah I didn't have a taste I just knew
what was out there and what was popular
are in stopped at the time so I kinda
was influenced by that a little bit but
I know that I didn't want to like the
mainstream stuff because I I never have
I don't like people telling me what to
like I don't like pop music I don't like
any of that so to me metal was just kind
of already there instilled in me some
way shape or form like I say you know in
2017 in two seconds you be listening to
great music so why would you want to be
listening to the influence of someone
else and it's because you know you kind
of want that camaraderie it's cool that
it's cool to have that and especially
that's still alive in 2017 because you
have all that technology is that much
cooler that we can be on YouTube though
delivering it to a bigger audience
connecting to people that you would
never meet in your life
Ram that you can associate with and be
friendly to because yeah it is always
like you need a connection yeah
embalmers from Cleveland you're from
Cleveland so it's going to be like a
local friend from you know our
generation our a age of people that you
know now it's growing into different
things but it's really cool how a lot of
that still is the same attitude now is
there an iconic show from your youth
that just kind of plays a big part in
your discoveries and like this is
something that you're more more curious
with or um I have a few stories about
that one is it this is kind of an
embarrassing story so I was the best one
I will throw it out there is pretty
funny um I was probably 14 I want to be
14 or 15 years old I was big into Punk
like I was telling you like a classic
fan belt like some like newer bands like
rants like at the time they weren't new
but like rancid and kind of stuff like
that okay it's just like that grimy punk
attitude you know like were you a time
bomb No
so uh so one of one of the shows I
remember going to and this was like I
said I was 14 15 okay we know it's gonna
be embarrassed I make excuses well no I
would I look you up
I remember going to a Warped Tour oh oh
I know it's so nice
I snuck out with my friends because
they're like oh let's go to worked or
whatever I got I could I was like
alright so I went to it and yeah it's
checking out the band's I like some of
the bands that were playing you want
them almost we're up front rocking some
high well I had a lot of like punk old
pug compilation CDs if you remember now
that punk or whatever they were called
like now webs pump and they would have
like 30 songs different bands and that
was really a lot to me because I was
helping me discover new big or on you
sometimes we gotta go through the dirt
yeah yeah they don't get some of that so
I always got to go through the dirt to
get to the goal but one memory of that
show which I was like which kind of
helped me get out of that scene with um
I picked up a shirt there at Warped Tour
and honestly like it was like this
distro or label or something I fell and
stuff there and they always like
anti-religious shirts and stuff like
that's cool it's really cool there was a
shirt that said like 666 hail Satan oh
man I was like oh my god that's awesome
so I got that I remember my mom Jean
she's like oh my god I'm so ashamed of
you in 15 16 going to shows I remember
going to shows hardcore shows at the old
fantasy employer in Cleveland which is
so called a fantasy and believe it or
not The Blind Lemon was one of the first
shows I went to there I do believe it
and fantasy is also very appropriate to
bring up when you tell Tom about or
overkill because yeah da-fu and then
some as it became lieutenant or a
teenage would you have recorded live
there as was that um Megadeth peace
cells bonus it was on a bonus for peace
cells oh yeah sure that was there and
there was a there was actually a few
things but there was a few overkill
recordings in Cleveland oh yeah early so
how did you get into liking the satanic
music I don't know if I really call it
satanic music as I always say a lot of
these lyrics don't really know what to
talk about be true Lisa I know yeah but
the more the devil's music as we would
like to take with me they know bizarre
the more extreme stuff it's just all
about extremity really yeah
and you know I guess in ways to say I
knew I liked metal or knew that I wasn't
into everything that everyone else was
into was uh probably just forever and so
seacret Reich
is the band for me okay that really was
like when I was getting serious about
music and liking stuff and not because
it was that amazing really so I have
five brothers a one sister and two my
brothers are half-brothers
so we kind of had a just a distance
because I'm the youngest out of that my
sister is younger than me so like I'm
about to bottom the totem pole and so my
half-brothers being you know
considerably older which is odd enough
than most of my friends are like their
age or older um that you know they were
kind of like moving on with their lives
while I was still much younger so he's
kind of trans like my brothers kind of
transitioning to going the military and
stuff and you know my other brother my
you know direct blood brothers were we
you know being closer obviously than to
those two we've stumbled across those
tapes I remember sacred right being one
man o'war Oh years I was like man what's
that one song carry on yeah yeah uh and
I think it's what it's called you can
carry on and uh and then I figured out
was man who works I never really got in
the man war but I remember that song and
I always hear that you carry on and so I
think that it was that through those
tapes and then we kind of like remember
my brothers like I found another sacred
rike CD or I think we call it sacred
reach oh why didn't any other just spit
didn't didn't know that there was a hard
seat you know it was reached uch man ha
ha ha ha
sacred reach so yes I'm so Sega reach I
hope it o it all to him but you remember
one of that we found another sacred
reach tape and it was a ignorance then
and that was I oh wow you know yeah I
remember to like cuz those Christian
morals like the song know believers I'm
member I got like walk but it has the
one song and mom and dad I'll probably
you know you know like yeah and I think
even then that was like before we
started to defy the Lord and like you
know discover what I mean we're like
was bored with Church forever like what
you know I'm not gonna it's going to
lose the call points to be like you I
came out of the womb going like after
you God like yeah I don't even do that I
don't believe in them right you know
that came a few years later when I was a
teenager so I wasn't like that so there
was actually a retro kind of a reserve
even like in that song I think it was
like ah oh well I'll be the song we'll
skip because it's you know no believers
it's pretty you know kind of preaching
god yeah no God in heaven
that's one adhere the ungrate you want
to hear the Uncharted Tory story there
you go that's straight from a heart man
and so yeah I think it's through that
maybe that's where a lot of the thrash
appeal car didn't comment yeah and grew
up and really uh I was born in Cleveland
and my family we lived in Cleveland more
my brothers obviously become the
youngest of my brothers then we moved
out to the even more now it's the kind
of Greater Cleveland area where then it
was just this middle of nowhere yeah
and as it's still kind of growing town
and really where my parents lived in my
childhood home which we moved to out
like three or four um because my parents
want us to get better schools in a city
called Medina we would move there and uh
so it was that house but that even that
Street still is pretty rural I had some
problems getting the shows and stuff
because everything was in Cleveland and
I didn't have friends and stuff and you
know worked in printing companies and
all that after I graduated high school
and that was my career choice of a
career school that I went to yeah which
uh I kind of didn't want even go in I
wanted to go in uh video editing yeah I
love videos I wanted to do that I wanted
to create music so I didn't ended up
making use of the printing class by
making the first crucify mortals
converted by decapitation flyer which
with the help of my brother like he did
put all like the con a collage thing in
there and found like some guy where he
like he's dead and stuff and it's pretty
cool flyer I mean I want to get it check
out this band yeah so yeah I print of
those like the plague saying I turned 17
in the middle of recording of the
converted by decapitation EP so then
yeah would have done that first year
every printed those flyers and then
luckily that senior year came and then I
got they do where was call
the placement of jobs actually pushed
ahead a few months before the semester
because there's always the second
semester and once you get the placement
rate your senior year but they didn't
they didn't spare any time maybe they
didn't like me there right thus everyone
thought I was gonna blow up the school
it's great other columbines member they
like just get that kid out of here get
much good at that job so that was great
because then I only had to go to school
for two classes and I was like yeah well
even school go to my job and then when
yeah I graduated school I had a
guaranteed printing job and then hopped
on a plane and on slaughter was going to
Japan so yeah it was pretty eventful and
you know I think if anything I learned
from school and a lot of things is to
fend for yourself yep so I'm metal Akana
was that way to fend for myself and here
we are still spending for ourselves
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