Okay I'd like to call
the Village Board meeting
for Tuesday March 27th to order.
Roll call please Pat.
Trustee Allison Williams?
Present.
Trustee Paul?
Here.
Trustee Zirbel?
Here.
Trustee Bukowski?
Here.
Trustee Malcheski?
Here.
President Kardoskee?
Here. Please,
Trustee Mark Williams
is excused this evening.
I'm sorry, please stand for the Pledge.
I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With liberty and justice for all.
And please always
remember our men and women
that we have throughout the world.
Okay I have no changes.
If there are none, I need
action on the agenda.
Move to approve?
Second
Motion and a second on the agenda.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Action on open and closed minutes
from February 27, 2018 regular meeting.
Move to approve?
Second.
Motion and a second to
approve those minutes.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay if we have any
comments from the public
they must be limited to
items not on the agenda.
You have to state your name and address.
Limit it to five minutes.
Board's role is to listen
and not discuss the item.
Is there anybody who would like to speak
to any item not on the agenda?
Sir.
Do I stay here or,
If you come up here please
and state your name and address.
Good evening, my name is Cameron Vaught.
Use the speaker we have
people listening in
they can't hear if you
don't use the speaker.
Thank you.
There you go.
If you want to stand that's fine.
Yeah I'd just rather
stand if that's alright.
Okay.
Cameron Vaught, 1231 Orlando Drive.
I've owned that home
for about two years now.
Mr. Zirbel I've sent you an email.
It was just yesterday
so it's not a big deal
you haven't gotten back to me.
I left you a voicemail.
Oh great, perfect.
There was an issue that
arose Saturday night.
I woke up to it Sunday morning.
For those of you that aren't
familiar with Orlando Drive,
how it ends with Marlee.
It's just a 90 degree turn
there, stop sign either side.
There's no intersection.
There's an issue with
people not ever stopping.
Since I've lived there
over these past two years
I recognize about a 20% stop rate.
Saturday night an individual went straight
through a stop sign about
25 feet from my house
and ended in the storm
drain behind my house.
He was parked there.
He probably traveled at least 75 feet
without hittin' the brakes.
Like I say 25 feet from hittin' my house
about 65 feet from killing
one of my children.
There's a major issue here and I think,
I don't know if it's speed bumps.
I don't know if we can close that off,
make it a cul-de-sac either side.
I don't know what it is but
we need to do something.
I've have had to literally
jump out of the way
of vehicles coming around that turn.
There's a house on the
inside of the 90 degree turn
and that creates a blind corner
if they're coming at any speed.
So all the time you hear squealing tires
going around that turn.
There's some lower-income
housing around the corner
that a lot of the traffic
seems to come from there.
They're using this as a main
thoroughfare to get to Cormier.
So I don't know if it's
increased police presence,
if it's additional signage,
but like I said I've had to
jump out of the way literally.
I can't let my kids ride
their bikes in the street
without me standing in
the middle of the road
and making sure traffic stops
before I let 'em through.
So I just wanted to bring
it to everybody's attention
and hopefully we can
do something about it.
And I'll return your voicemail.
Thank you Mr. Zirbel.
Okay, Thank you.
Actually those stop signs
were installed many years ago
because of one of my
friends who lived on Orlando
insisted on the stop signs
because people didn't stop then.
So obviously they're not
obeying them now either.
Right, and there's a lot of children.
I mean that's a recognized
walk from school right there.
I wouldn't be surprised to
see somebody get hit there.
Okay thank you.
We'll make sure that public works
and public safety get that information.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, any other comments from the public
on items not on the agenda.
State your name and address please.
I won't stand up.
Zee Pregolski I reside
at 2455 Bay Area Court
in some of my talks with
my neighbors recently
there's a couple topics
that were brought up.
I'd just like to bring it to
the attention of the board.
One we were comparing our tax bills
and to a person that I talked
to everyone was very pleased
with the line-item of the
Village of Ashwaubenon
changing very little.
And I think that the Board should be,
kudos to the Board for
keeping the taxes as low
as what they have been.
And to the Village for
keeping expenses down
and still maintaining
our level of services.
Second topic is the Village
Board meeting video feed.
Is that, I understand there's
some close caption issues
with that, that prevent it
from being streamed live.
Is that something that
is gonna be changed?
'Cause there's a few people that I talk to
would like to see it in real-time.
So, that's all I have.
Okay, to answer the question
about the close captioning.
About a year ago we found
out from the FCC I believe
and the American's with
Disabilities Act that we had
to close caption our meetings
if they're shown live.
The cost to do that is
very high so what we do
is we take this meeting
tonight and it will be sent
to a private individual.
They close caption it
and then we get it back
in about two days and it's
usually on our website
and also on YouTube, correct?
So as of right now we're trying to,
if we did close captioning.
We always were on cable.
If we did close captioning
with just cable is got a price.
But that doesn't hit everybody
because we still have AT&T,
and we have DirectTV, and we have Hulu,
and we have all those
that we would have to
close caption all of them.
So that is the most cost-effective way
is the way we're doing it right now.
Okay thank you very much
for your time and attention.
Okay, thank you.
Any other comments from the public?
Nope, okay moving on.
For written communications, number seven,
I have a written
communication that I received
and it was addressed to
the Chief Elected Official.
It is from Barbara Goeckner,
who is with the Wisconsin
Municipal Clerks Association.
She wrote, "I am pleased to inform you
"that Patrick Moynihan Junior
has received the designation
"of Wisconsin Certified Municipal Clerk
"from the Wisconsin
Municipal Clerk's Association
"as of March 1, 2018.
"This designation comes only
after completing many hours
"of training and experience related
"to your municipality's business.
"This designation shows
the dedication that Patrick
"has to you and the citizens
of your municipality.
"Please accept my sincere
thank you for allowing Patrick
"to attend the training sessions necessary
"to complete this certification.
"Your municipality will
benefit from his achievement."
So congratulations Pat.
Thank you, I didn't know
you were going to do that.
I know you didn't I didn't tell you.
Do we have to give him
a raise or no or what?
No not yet.
No so, anyway,
Good going Patrick.
Thank you.
Yes, I'd like that put on file.
Thank you.
Are there any other
written communications or announcements?
Okay, number eight,
action on consent agenda.
The consent agenda is a request
for the operators license approval,
department reports from March 2018,
2017 final General Fund financial report,
and budgeted expenditures.
A question on eight, request for approval
on operators license.
Mr. Clerk has everybody
passed and did everything
according to our rules and regulations
on the operators license.
Absolutely.
They did?
Wouldn't be there.
Very good.
You bet.
Thank you.
Move to approve.
Second.
Okay we have a motion and a second
to approve the Consent Agenda.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye
Opposed?
I'm sorry who was the second?
Chris did.
Thank you.
Oh I'm sorry, Gary did I guess.
Thank you.
Okay number nine.
9-1 public hearing
regarding Ordinance O3-1-18
Creating the B-4 Commerce Zoning District
and associated Zoning Ordinance amendments
Is there anybody here
who would like to speak
for or against this item?
This is a public hearing.
Is there anybody here
who would like to speak
for or against this item?
Anybody here for or against this item?
Move to close the public hearing.
Second.
We have a motion and a second
to close the public hearing.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Number two, public hearing
regarding Ordinance O3-4-18
Rezoning Parcels VA-L194-2,
VA-L194-3, VA-L194-4, VA-L157,
VA-L194-1, VA-L194, and VA-L193,
VA-L192, VA-L189, VA-L191,
VA-L187, and portions of
Parcels VA-L190, VA-L188,
and VA-L199 from B-3 Community Business
and R-1 One Family
Residence to B-4 Commerce.
Okay, anybody here to speak
for or against this rezoning.
This is a public hearing.
Yes sir could you come up
and state your name and address please.
Hi my name is Terry Porter.
I live at 1131 Spring Lake Drive
and I'm here representing
Spring Lake Condo Association.
And the rezoning isn't an issue with us.
It's the crick that's just,
it's on this map and it drains our lake
and drains the properties behind us.
And we're just making sure
that that crick doesn't get
forgotten and filled
in, and we get drowned.
Okay.
So like I said it's not on here,
and not those zones but it's on this map,
and I did get the information about that.
So if this is a proper
time to speak I'm not sure.
But I just want to make sure
it doesn't get overlooked.
Okay so that would be,
Yeah there have been a couple of comments
over the past few months
regarding that creek,
and we've brought that to the attention
of the town of Laurence also.
Because of the creekway is a waterway
so we can't go in there
and just excavate it out
or it can't just be filled in.
I guess to allay some of your concerns.
And the town was looking
at working with us
and with the property owner
to get that cleared out.
Okay, Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Anybody else like to speak
for or against this item?
Anybody else like to speak
for or against this item?
Move to close the public hearing.
Second.
We have a motion and a second
to close the public hearing.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Number three public hearing
on a request by Kevin Wilson
of Wilson's Towing, LLC for
a Conditional Use Permit
to operate an automotive wrecker service
and an automobile
painting/body shop facility
located at 2040 South Ashland Avenue.
Okay is there anybody here
who would like to speak
for or against?
Would you like to come up
and state your name and address please?
Kevin Wilson, 2400 Riverside Drive.
Dave Krauzer from Mau & Associates
land surveying and land planning.
I guess I'll start for this.
I just was recently
brought into this by Kevin
on this property and I kinda wish
I'd a been brought in a little bit sooner,
when there were obviously
meetings and stuff
going on with the Village.
But there's a number of things,
and when you look at
this property right here,
and it's up against Ashland Avenue.
And I do see what you're trying to do
with this corridor through here,
but this could possibly
could be a fairly long haul
before something happens here
and there's a viable business
that is trying to operate out of this.
And Kevin has made
comments at least to me,
that he does want to improve the property
and make it look more representable.
Under the, and I'm not
sure if Mr Buchowski is,
him being an attorney,
because I'm not an attorney.
And I know that the state
just passed this Act 67
on conditional uses and under that,
the way I read that Act
is the conditional use is
if that's a viable use for that site
and it's a conditional use then
there have to be conditions
set up for that use.
And it can't just be denied is
the way I have read that Act.
I think it was approved in November.
So I'm wondering if there's some way.
'Cause under that Act when
you create the conditions
for this property, you can
set screening, beautification,
if there's landscaping.
You can set time limits on the time
that this thing can actually run.
You might even be able to
set some sort of time limit
how long this conditional use can go
before it could possibly be re-instated.
Maybe have to go through another
set of conditions for that.
And at that time maybe we can look and see
how this court order is
actually being built out.
Because if somebody
comes in and offers him
oodles of money for this corner,
obviously he's gonna move somewhere.
But right now he's got a viable business
that can't operate out of that corner.
And this thing could
otherwise possibly sit here
for some time before it's actually used.
So I think there could
be some mutual benefit
to both parties to
possibly look at this site
and allow him to do something.
If there's screening for
cars that he needs to do?
I think that can be worked on.
I think there's something
that we can do here.
Now the only other
thing that I don't know,
and I want to make this very clear.
And I know I had a pretty
long conversation with Aaron
this afternoon 'cause he was filling me in
on some things also.
What I don't know is when you
started this Stadium District,
all the rezoning for this thing,
and when he has actually
submitted his stuff
for this conditional use?
Because if there's an overlap there
maybe you can actually stop this thing.
I don't know, but I would think
there's got to be a way here
that maybe between both parties
that we can get something
that could actually fit for
everybody on this corner.
And that's what I'm hoping
that we can possibly do.
So I don't if there's some way?
And I know that on the
agenda right after this
you have that Stadium
District zoning coming up.
I don't know if maybe
this parcel could possibly
just be tabled for this property.
I know Kevin, he has engaged an attorney
but he could not be here
tonight on short notice
he had between the other attorney he had
and the one that he's got now.
So, if there could be a
little bit more discussion,
that's what we're looking for tonight.
Okay, thank you.
And yeah I guess with everything
that's going on with this parcel,
I guess if we could table it
so everybody can have
the proper information.
I think that for tonight
that would be a great outcome
for me and just I guess
a little background
on our wrecker business we,
just so everybody knows,
we are a first responder.
There's only three
heavy-duty wrecker services
in the Green Bay Area.
Ace was the big one that had retired.
They were on Mason Street,
so they were the only ones
on the west side.
The only other two are on the north side
and on the far east side of the city.
So we would be the only first responding
heavy wrecker service on
the south and west side.
And so sometimes I feel like we're treated
like we're a third-rate business.
Everybody looks at wreckers business
and they think oh it's,
you know you haul in cars.
Well those accidents
happen on public property
so the same type of,
you know if you think there's
spills or things like that.
That's happening on public
property all the time
but for us proximity
to the major highways.
Which is Ashland getting on and off 172
without the round-abouts.
Sometimes we can be 140 feet
long pulling combination units.
So this is a great
location for us for access.
That's one of the main
reasons why that area
really works well for us.
I want to correct you.
I mean I want to be
corrected if I'm wrong.
You said you're the only first
responder on the west side?
We're the only first responding
heavy-duty truck service on the west side.
What about heavy-duty wrecker service
that's been around for three generations.
They're up on Velp Avenue.
That's right.
They're up on the north side.
But they are on the west side.
Well they're on a very northern side.
Alright thank you.
One other thing that I
would just like to add.
I know after talking with Aaron tonight
he was concerned that the
property doesn't show up
under Mr. Wilson's ownership.
He does have a signed land contract
that's just not recorded
with the Register of Deeds.
But the whole property's
under contract with his name.
Okay, thank you very much.
Okay does anybody like to
speak for or against this item?
Anybody like to speak
for or against this item?
Move to close the public hearing.
Second.
Okay we have a motion and a second
to close public hearing on this item.
All those in favor say Aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Number four, public hearing
regarding Ordinance O3-3-18
rezoning parcels VA-55-B, VA-66-4-6-D,
VA-66-4-6-C, VA-66-4-6,
VA-66-4-6-A, VA-66-4-6-B,
Mary, if I could
interrupt, just one second.
Tony is it necessary for Mary
to read all of those numbers?
I think it would be good
for the public hearing.
For purposes later on the agenda item
I think we can shorten it up.
Okay, Thank you.
You just wanted to give
me a break didn't you.
I wanted to give you a break.
VA-66-4-4, VA-66-4-5, VA-66-4-2,
VA-66-4-2B, VA-66-4-2A, VA-66-4-1,
VA-66-4-1A, VA-56-4-2, VA-56-4,
VA-56-5, VA-56-6, VA-56-2,
VA-56-7, VA-66-8-1, VA-66-8-3,
VA-66-9, VA-66-8-A, VA-66-8-B,
VA-66-8-4, VA-66-B-3, VA-66-A-1,
VA-66-B-1, VA-66-B, and VA-66-A-2
from Light Industrial L1
to SE Sports & Entertainment.
Okay anybody here who would like to speak
for or against this item?
Is there anyone here
who would like to speak
for or against this item?
Is there anyone here
who would like to speak
for or against this item?
Move to close the public hearing.
Second
Motion and a second to
close the public hearing.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed. That public hearing is closed.
Okay moving on, number 10, action items.
Resolution in memory of John Monfort.
Have it.
Resolution Number R3-6-18
resolution in memory
of former Town Chairman and
Village President, John Monfort.
Whereas John Monfort was elected
as a Town Supervisor
of Ashwaubenon in 1966.
And whereas John Monfort was elected
as Chairman of the Town of
Ashwaubenon on April 6, 1971.
And there-after became the
first Village President in 1977,
when the Town of
Ashwaubenon was incorporated
into a Village.
Serving in that capacity until 1981.
And whereas John Monfort
was also a volunteer
Ashwaubenon fireman for 18 years.
And whereas during President
Monfort's terms of office,
he oversaw the land
purchases, development,
and dedication of Ashwaubomay Park,
the Alloway and Ashwaubenon bridge,
and the approval to construct
the Bay Park Square Mall.
And whereas John Monfort
was also influential
in the establishment of the Village's
Department of Public Safety
in 1980 as one-of-its-kind
in merging law enforcement,
and fire, and rescue duties
in the interest of saving tax dollars.
And whereas President Monfort served
in other public capacities
including as a member
of the Town of Ashwaubenon's
Planning Commission
and as Brown County Supervisor,
thereby serving on the Brown
County Planning Commission
and Chairman of the Brown
County Highway Commission.
And whereas President Monfort
passed away peacefully
at his home surrounded by
his family on March 18, 2018.
Now therefore be resolved
that the Village Board of
the Village of Ashwaubenon,
on behalf of all off the
Village, does hereby remember
and thank John Monfort for
his service as Town Chairman
and Village President
and his numerous roles,
accomplishments, and positive impact
upon the Town and Village of Ashwaubenon.
Adopted by the Village Board of Trustees
of the Village of Ashwaubenon
this 27th day of March, 2018.
(group applauding)
Tip?
I'm gonna save myself some legwork here.
B proclamation honoring
Green Bay Elks Lodge 259
of the Benevolent and
Protective Order of Elks.
Gentleman if you'd like to step forward.
A proclamation honoring
Green Bay Elks Lodge 259
of the Benevolent and
Protective Order of Elks
marking 125 years of
service to Ashwaubenon
and northeast Wisconsin.
Whereas the Village of
Ashwaubenon wishes to honor
Green Bay Elks Lodge 259 for
their extraordinary efforts
to improve our community.
And whereas Green Bay Elks
Lodge 259 has continuously
served our community
and northeast Wisconsin
in numerous ways often
without recognition.
And whereas Green Bay
Elks Lodge 259 has offered
numerous youth programs
such as Hoop Shoot,
Halloween at Elks Hollow,
Christmas programming,
the Dictionary Project,
Southwest Area Girls Softball,
Scouting, and a host
of other youth programs
aimed for the development
of tomorrow's leaders.
And whereas Green Bay
Elks Lodge 259 provides
materials and informational programming
to the general public
in regard to bullying
and drug-awareness to
ensure homes and schools
are always safe environments.
And whereas Green Bay
Elks Lodge 259 provides
valuable student scholarships,
legacy scholarships,
state scholarships,
and family scholarships
to assist and ensure
tomorrow's leader's success.
And whereas Green Bay Elks Lodge 259,
a distinctly American institution,
provides US Constitutions to schools
as well as hosts a US
Constitution test and scholarship.
And has paid tribute to our nation
on each Flag Day, June 14th,
for the past 109 years.
And whereas Green Bay Elks Lodge 259,
as a long-standing supporter of Veterans,
and provides a host of community
outreach and programming
to ensure that no Vet is forgotten.
And now therefore be it resolved
that with a deepest
appreciation of these efforts,
the Village of Ashwaubenon
does hereby recognize
and congratulate Green Bay Elks Lodge 259
on their 125th anniversary.
Dated this 27th day of March, 2018.
(group applauding)
You're all gonna be in the
newspaper now you know.
Good job Patrick.
Thank you.
I have a face for radio.
(man laughing)
Don't we all.
Okay.
30 seconds.
Action item 10 C.
We have a Legislative Update
from Representative Dave Steffen.
Welcome to Ashwaubenon Dave.
Thank you.
It's great to see you here.
You found us.
I did, I did.
Well thank you for allowing
me to be here tonight.
David Steffen, 715 Olive Tree
Court, Village of Howard,
but formerly 1123 Cherry
Lane, Village of Ashwaubenon,
for 22 years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(chuckling) So I did
want to come here today.
First of all just a comment, I love coming
to local meetings like
this because the proximity
and efficiency of Democracy
that occurs in small town halls,
village halls, city halls around the state
is just so encouraging.
The amount of business
that you just took care of
in the first 20 minutes
here would take the state
about six to nine months.
So it's really encouraging
to be a part of that.
I did want to just take a moment
to come and be here before you.
Earlier this month I
provided every resident
in the Fourth Assembly District
what I call a progress report.
Which is an appropriate term
in my mind 'cause I feel like
I'm almost in an employee,
employer situation.
That I have to report back
to the people who I serve
and give them an update
as to what I've done.
And hopefully have them respond back
and let me know how I'm doing.
Similarly that's why I'm
here tonight to be with you
is just have a moment
to share a few thoughts
from the State House and
also welcome any comments
or questions from you.
You are my partners as public servants
and as part of this great
American experiment of Democracy.
And so as mutual and collaborative
servants to the people
I want to just talk a little
bit about a few things
that are important to the
Village of Ashwaubenon state-wide
that I've been engaged in and
then hope to in the future.
So from just a very quick
review of a few things
at the state level that I'm
certainly trying to communicate
as a success over the last
couple years has been number one
our ability to reduce the tax burden
in the State of Wisconsin.
It is now at for taxpayers
of the State of Wisconsin
at a 50 year low and some of the things
that we've done to that helps.
It's also produced an economy
that's been very robust
and allow the state with
growing coffers to invest
over $600 million into our schools.
As a part of that we also included
a new type of revenue
source for school districts
just like in Ashwaubenon, who
are low revenue districts,
meaning that they've always
been fiscally responsible.
And so just for the
Fourth Assembly District
they'll be $20 million of new revenue
coming to the public schools.
So good things in that regard.
Also some regulatory reforms.
Some of them would be
very helpful as it relates
to some of urbanized development
that we're talking about.
You know it was an honor
for me to help work
with Miss Swanson and others as it relates
to the premier economic
development district
that overlays the title
town's district to ensure
it can meet it's full capability,
it's full potential of $130 to 160 million
of economic development.
Beyond that for communities
we did do some additional funding
for transportation for municipalities.
And so that's a positive.
Beyond that there are some
things that are still left undone
and probably my greatest
regret is that we were unable
to get the Dark Store Bills
across the finish line.
But I want to thank you and
encourage you to continue
to be engaged on this issue.
Ashwaubenon was a leader
in it's communication
to the state body, letting
it know it's position.
Hosting one of the dark store days
that several of you were at.
Thank you Mary for being there.
And so we still have work to be done.
And it's unfortunate we
didn't get that done,
especially cause of the impact
that the dark store theory,
the dark store scheme is
going to have on a community
like Ashwaubenon in particular
because of it's heavy retail,
heavy commercial
representation on the tax base.
So that's one of the
things that's left undone.
The other thing I just want
to mention is that I spent
the last year as a
Chairman of a sub-committee
of ways and means relating
to local financing,
local solutions as it
relates to financing.
Trying to see if there's some new ways
we can develop funding sources,
funding mechanisms for communities.
So some don't directly
relate to Ashwaubenon.
I don't think you guys participate
in the Expenditure
Restraint program, not sure.
But one of the things is,
is there a possibility
where communities could
be part of the sales tax.
Where they actually generate
the state sales tax,
have a portion of that
in-lieu of property taxes.
And the theory is that
right now your portfolio
is primarily based on one revenue source,
and that being property tax.
So the success of the business is not,
to be honest from a revenue perspective,
not as important to you
as the brick and mortar,
and that's unfortunate.
All communities should be
engaged directly in encouraging
the success of their businesses
because it helps them.
And so by having some sales
tax part of the equation,
kind of a diverse revenue portfolio,
there might be an opportunity
where municipalities
could be more engaged
with their businesses
and also provide a better growth rate.
As you all know shared
revenue has been flat
for a long, long time.
The good thing about sales tax is that
it almost always increases
by about 2% a year
so it'd be an increasing revenue
source built into the cake.
So those are just a few items
I wanted to mention with you.
More than anything I wanted
to be here and let you know
that I'm listening, I'm thinking,
I'm here to represent you.
I do have extra ones available
for the public at the back podium.
If you have any questions
I'd be happy to answer them.
Otherwise I just want to thank you again
for letting me be here.
Well David I would like to thank you for,
anytime we have called your office,
you've responded very quickly.
You've done a great representation for us.
I know that the staff has worked with you.
Several different times
I've called your office.
It is unfortunate.
You have worked very
hard on the dark store
and unfortunately we didn't
get that across the finish line
but hopefully we can get
that across soon, so.
I hope so too.
And the big pieces of legislation
often take two sessions.
And you know we're gonna
start again right away.
So thank you, thank you Madam President.
Thank you for what you do.
Anybody have any comments?
I've got a comment that
I hear all the time.
As a 25 year professional
economic development
that's worked state, and
federal, and tribal deals.
Foxconn is a travesty you guys put
on the taxpayer of this state.
Who's to say that in five
or six years that technology
is not going to exist.
Well that's,
A company from China
promised it and ignored
the local businesses,
the small businesses,
the entrepreneurs, the
entrepreneur process.
And like I said 25 years
economic development,
this flies in the face
of the small businesses of this state.
Taxes are not a problem.
Their taxes are a problem
and I said that six years ago
when I ran for Assembly
District Seat Section Four.
Taxes are not a problem.
Their taxes are a problem.
You guys in Madison are knuckling under
the Wisconsin manufacturers and commerce
for just about everything that they want,
and you're ignoring the
people like the general folks
in Ashwaubenon who wanted
the Dark Store bill passed.
And Vos and Fitzgerald wouldn't
even bring it up for a vote.
We're not happy, obviously.
Well I'm not,
were you looking for a response on that?
(man laughing)
Or was that rhetorical?
No seriously, would you
like me to comment or?
Not really.
Okay that's fine.
Okay, thank you.
I have a comment.
Given, and I echo what Mary
said, thanks for being here.
Thank you.
You knew you might get some heat
and had the courage to show
up at a meeting like this.
Thank you.
But there's one thing
that we at this level
talk about a lot.
And you touched on it
in your opening remarks,
and that is, it's trite but
it's true, local control.
And if the gentleman from Mau Associates,
if his interpretation of
the statute that was passed,
according to him last November,
that deals with conditional uses
in municipalities is accurate.
I don't know if it is or not.
I sure hope it isn't.
But if it's accurate that's
just a good example Dave.
I'm not saying you personally,
don't get me wrong.
But the state cutting us
off at the knees again.
We know what the local situation is,
the legislature doesn't.
And you know, but the people from Mosinee,
they don't know what it is over here.
And so the state legislature
does it every session,
they take more, and
more, and more authority
away from the local government.
They just do and I think
that's regrettable.
But there's a good example.
If that statute says what
this gentleman says it says,
there's a perfect example of
cutting us out of the issue.
If conditional use,
we might as well not have zoning.
If that statute says what
this gentleman says it says,
why do we have zoning?
Anybody can come in now and
do a conditional use probe.
You can't turn us down.
That's absurd.
I hope that statute doesn't say that.
I hope to this day it doesn't.
Not because of Mr Wilson or anything to do
with towing of vehicles but if it says
what that gentleman says
it says, that's frightful.
And I just hope when
you get back to Madison,
and I know you've done this before.
You've tried to help with
regard to local control,
and that's a much appreciated.
I'm not sure Vos and
Fitzgerald have any clue
on what that means.
So I just hope you take that to heart.
Thank you, so there's about
five or six legislators
every session who are recognized
as champions for local
control in municipalities.
I was proud and honored
to be named one of those.
I served in a seat just
like yours for eight years
and I never forgot
how important that was
and continues to be, whoever
serves in that capacity.
You know unfortunately with
a lot of elected officials
they either haven't served at local level
or they have and they
lost sight of the fact
that at one point they were an equal.
And unfortunately many now
mass in developing hubris.
That they believe better than
or they have more answers
than you folks
and that's unfortunate.
You are colleagues.
You are equals.
We are all working in the same capacity
just different size districts,
so I respect and understand.
As it relates to Mr
Krauzer and his comments
all I remember about that
particular piece of legislation
is it was almost an omnibus type bill.
It was a massive piece of legislation.
But I'd be happy to work with
Miss Swanson, Mr Krauzer,
and whomever else, to one
ensure we fully understand
the spirit of that legislation.
But also then have the
attorneys who actually provide
legal analysis for the state.
Be happy to offer them up to the Village
to provide in detail a response as to what
the official position is
as it relates to that.
But again I do share your concern
and it is a constant fight
on my end to let people know
that what happens here, we
need to support local control.
There are some communities
where local control
has meant a different thing.
It isn't as responsive as it is here
and where some smaller
governments are almost overbearing
on property owners and property rights.
But you can't paint us
all with the same brush.
I know what you're saying.
Well thank you, that's alright,
thank you for commenting.
Thank you sir
And thanks for coming.
Thank you, thank you
you bet.
Alright one more comment to add to Ken's
regarding local control.
The Village was very proud
in controlling cell towers.
Where they could go.
Naturally you're gonna
hear about the party homes.
We are one of the 32
locations in the United States
that's got a pro-football team here,
and we had that well under control
'til the upper government
took care of that for us
and now we don't have control of that.
I'm sure people don't like
a big, tall cell tower
in their backyard.
Or somebody in a very
reputable neighborhood
having a party home alongside of 'em.
We lost that control just
like Ken was explaining,
and now we've got something
else on the board here.
If what he's saying about
Conditional Use Permit.
I'm looking at this and saying
why do you need us here?
Yeah and that's fair.
I was one of the co-authors
of the legislation to restore
local control as it relates
to cell tower sitings.
Unfortunately it didn't go very far.
So I understand that.
I'm thankful that the
technology is changing a bit.
There is a greater emphasis on
what are called small cells.
That are basically an appliance
attached to a utility pole.
So I'm thankful for that.
But I understand and appreciate
the larger cell tower issue
and you know, I've been
on the front lines on it.
And sometimes I do feel
like I'm Don Quixote
against the windmill
on some of these issues
but I'm not gonna stop fighting.
I'm not gonna stop working
on behalf of issues
that I know are important
to you as it relates
to the part here, I will say issue, I,
worked closely with Miss
Swanson and her staff
on this issue after that
started to have impact here.
And tried to provide some direction on
or at least some ideas
on how to tighten control
as much as allowed by law.
Bring it right up to the line,
right up to the legal line
as it relates to control.
And I'm hopeful that that is providing
at least the necessary relief and control
that you feel you need
as it relates that issue.
How can you put those
simple things to you,
are very major to us,
how can you put that in a
bill and nobody sees it.
Who reads all that stuff?
You know and then it passes
and then we are stuck with the problem.
Yeah well, I mean it is
part of the challenge,
is there's over 3,000
pieces of legislation
that are introduced every session.
Some of them can be hundreds
up to a thousand pages long.
So we do our best to
kind of go through them.
We rely upon the lawyers that we have
that are at our disposal, our
staff, and then individually.
There's very few that
I don't have a chance
to go through, the vast majority.
But some of them get into a
technical manner in matter
that can be challenging for
citizen legislators like myself.
And we also by the way,
and I also try to rely upon
if it relates to local issues
and I don't fully get it,
League of Municipalities has some,
Curt Witynski who is your
lobbyist does a fantastic job,
and I speak to him at nights, weekends,
going over different things.
So you have people at your
disposal to assist you,
and be an intermediary, and to help me.
It's a long way of saying that
we're doing the best we can
to get through all the
pieces of legislation,
but when you're dealing
with a thousand pieces,
3000 pieces in about an 18 month period.
It can be a challenge at
times, I must confess.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other comments?
Thank you Dave for coming.
Thank you, and I did
leave additional copies
out on the podium at
the back if any members
of the public are interested.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you again.
Good luck.
Good evening, thank you.
Okay, D, action regarding
Ordinance O3-1-18
Creating the B-4 Commerce Zoning District
and Associated Zoning
Ordinance Amendments.
Aaron.
The green sheet that you
have before you identifies
the process we went through to prepare
the B-4 Commerce District.
Which is meant to be a
well-designed business park-like
zoning district for the far
southwest part of the Village.
Primarily in the area around
South Packerland Drive
and Grant Street.
Currently the area is all,
well for the most part,
agricultural lands,
with some rural residential
in there as well.
The property is also
currently zoned a B-3 business
and R-1 residential.
The B-4 commerce is meant to
take over, or rezone the areas
that are primarily
commercial at this point
to again expand the base
that the Village has
for new manufacturing,
assembling businesses.
Which we've seen a large interest
in large lots for those
types of enterprises.
We've met with the majority
of the, all of the land owners
in that area correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
Okay, have any questions
or comments for Aaron ?
Move to approve Ordinance O3-4-18.
One, 3-1.
Is that what I said?
No you said four.
Oh, we're on item what 10?
D, 10 D.
Ah, I got ahead of myself,
alright, I'm sorry.
And we're looking at move to
approve Ordinance 03-1-18.
Second.
Okay, we have a motion and a second
to approve Ordinance 03-1-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
10 E action regarding Ordinance
O3-4-18 rezoning the parcels
that are listed in number
two in the public hearing.
This is actually applying
the B-4 Commerce District
to the identified property
on the map that's included
with the green sheet.
We did hold a public informational meeting
with all of the neighbors.
That was back in November
29th, just precise,
at the Community Center.
We had a good turnout.
We discussed it at that time.
We had a planning commission
and we also have it now tonight.
I'll be happy to answer any
questions you have regarding
the proposed map amendment,
rezoning those areas from
B-3 Commercial to B-4 Commerce,
and R-1 Residential to B-4 Commerce.
Any questions?
Okay.
I'll move to approve the Ordinance 03-4-18
rezoning those particular parcels.
Do I have,
Second.
Okay we have a motion and a second
approving Ordinance 03-4-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay 10 F, action on a
request by Kevin Wilson
of Wilson's Towing, LLC for
a Conditional Use Permit
to operate an automotive wrecker service
and automobile painting/body shop facility
located at 2040 South Ashland Avenue.
Aaron , oh Todd?
Todd or Aaron .
I'll take it.
Okay
The proposed or the requested
Conditional Use Permit
by Wilson's Trucking is for
the former Badger Ladder
property on Mike McCarthy Way
at the far eastern end
of the Stadium District.
The requested Conditional
Use Permit, as identified,
is for a automotive wrecker service
and automobile painting shop facility.
In reviewing the Conditional Use Permit
we did meet with Mr Wilson
twice, individually.
At the office once, I
believe it was December.
Another time more recently
that was in, I believe February
to discuss our concerns
with the Conditional Use Permit request
and how in our estimation
it was not consistent
with the vision the Village set forth
in their Comprehensive Plan.
The Comprehensive Plan set
forth this area as a mixed-use
commercial, residential,
entertainment area
to build off the momentum
from Titletown Stadium
and all the redevelopment occurring
within the Stadium District itself.
The Comprehensive Plan again
is the basis upon which
different zoning decisions
including Conditional Use Permits
are to be made.
And that's the basis upon
which the recommendation
from staff for denial was identified.
Furthermore, on the
back-side of the green sheet,
we did identify specific
factors or considerations
spelled out for the denial.
Including the compliance
with the Comprehensive Plan
we again do not believe
that it is consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan vision.
Compatibility of existing
proposed structures,
the existing building
is in very rough shape.
There's concerns with that.
What poor condition and the
overall structural integrity
of the building is also in question.
We have a neighboring office
building which we don't believe
would be compatible with the proposed use.
Other neighboring uses,
we do have a hotel.
A Comfort Suites that will be locating
just to the west of the property,
the US Special Delivery
property west of that.
There is additional strong interest
from additional developers
for the north side
of Mike McCarthy Way
for other entertainment,
retail, service type industries.
The current fence on the
property is falling down.
So again there are a number
of issues with this property,
that we just do not see this
being a good fit for this area.
And that's based upon our recommendation
is therefore for denial.
Okay.
This was brought up at the Plan Board
and Aaron pretty much said
why we were in disagreement with this.
So if there's no other questions,
I will deny the request for this.
I think we should
probably be specific Gary,
and say that based on all
of the recommendations
of the staff and everything
that Aaron stated
that would be the reasons why.
That would be the reason for it yes.
Cause we've been through
this twice already.
And I'll second the motion.
And just to add on to that,
there's also as was conceded
by the applicant tonight.
He does not have a recorded land contract.
So there is certainly an
issue that he does not have
a legal interest really in
the property at this point.
Okay we have a motion and a second
to deny the Conditional Use Permit.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay 10 G, action
regarding Ordinance O3-3-18
rezoning parcels that are listed
in public hearing number four.
The requested rezoning map
amendment at this point
is for the remaining,
most of the remaining I-1
light industrial property
within the Village's
original industrial park,
in the Stadium District
portion of the Village.
As identified in the Comprehensive Plan
this area is envisioned to
transition to again a mix of
commercial, residential,
entertainment uses
building upon the momentum associated with
the Titletown District, Lambo Field,
and the associated businesses in the area.
This would include most of the area to the
south of Mike McCarthy Way and
to the east of Holmgren Way.
We did hold a neighborhood meeting,
following a neighborhood-wide
mailing on February 13, 2018
here at Ashwaubenon Village Hall.
Okay, any questions?
Alright, I'll make a,
Aaron, I've got to play
a little dumb on this.
I was not here at that particular hearing.
All the neighbors in that
neighborhood were in favor
of what we're doing here I'm assuming?
Mr Wilson was not at that meeting.
Okay.
Move to adopt Ordinance Number O3-3-18.
Second.
We have a motion and a second
to adopt Ordinance O3-3-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay, 10 H, presentation
on 2018 Village wide
property re-evaluation.
Mr. Deener.
Thank you.
Just a little background in 1998
a complete re-valuation was completed.
Where-by all interior inspections
are done on commercial and
residential properties.
And the market was strong then,
by 2005 we were out of compliance.
So for 2006 rather than go through
all the interior inspections again
a market adjustment
revaluation was completed.
Shortly after that 2006 market adjustment
the market reverted, it flattened.
And by 2013 it was decided
to do another revaluation
but in that revaluation
we actually brought
the values of the homes back down
because the market had dropped.
Now in 2018 part of the 2018 budget,
I've been contracted to bring the homes
and the businesses back
closer to the market value,
what exists today.
And part of what I was asked to do tonight
was to give you some idea
of the scope of the work
of what my office is doing as
part of a market adjustment.
Market adjustment is also
often known as a book-reval.
It is not requiring interior
inspections of properties.
It's more looking at the
existing data that we have.
And what we start out with
is looked at three years,
I'm talking residential
property right now.
That we look at at least
three years of sales
and look and see how much is a,
say a 1,200 square foot, three bedroom,
one bathroom house on
April Lane selling for.
And then we'd look to see
what is the same type of home,
only with two bathrooms,
or maybe perhaps a finished basement,
or condition good versus average.
And we create what's called model
based on all these sales
in the different parts of the Village.
And once we have that model established,
it's what we refer to as a
cost-driven market approach.
Where once we have the model established
then we'll value all the
homes in the Village.
And after that's done we also bring in
the actual sales comparison approach
to see how that'll pair
up against our model.
Once our values are completed
I also look at the commercial.
Now in commercial we have sales
but no-where near as many sales
as we have in the residential sector.
And so many commercial
properties are a unique one
from another so it's hard
to pair up a commercial sale
from one property to the next.
So we also have to rely
on investment properties
where there's income.
We send out letters to
properties that may have
leases in places, or
rents that can help us aid
in the investment approach,
to see how much the property would sell.
What a prudent investor
would pay for that property.
We also use a software,
it's Marshall & Swift,
which is called a cost estimator,
to see what that property,
what that building is worth.
What it's worth new, and
then we apply depreciation
and age different
characteristics to look at
the value of it.
Once all these properties are valued,
commercial and residential.
We have to look and see what
the Department of Revenue has
on the overall value of the Village.
I'm under contract to
have our assessed values
at or very near 100%.
So when I'm completed with the project.
If I'm a little high or a
little low on the overall value
as compared or determined by
the Department of Revenue.
I will do mass adjustments on all parcels,
all properties to bring them, hone them in
to be very close to what
the Department of Revenue
deems to be full value.
And there is part of
the reason why sometimes
you'll look at assessments,
and it might look
a little different than
what you really true
to be market value.
Because we may know they're
worth, a house worth $100,000,
but to match up with
this full equalized value
we might have 'em at $98,000 or $101,000.
Cause I'm under contract to be at 100%.
Once our assessments are completed.
Once that process is done,
in probably it should be
in the middle of July,
middle to late July.
We'll be sending out
notices to every property
in the Village and there'll
be a 30 open-book session
where they can contact us to discuss,
When I say we, I have
my office on east side
which most of you know,
and I have four employees.
And we'll also have open-book sessions
probably right in this room.
Upon completion of the open-book session,
we don't have the exact date set yet,
but it should be sometime
in mid to late August,
that we'll have our 2018 Border Review.
My one question Mike is when these houses
that are around Lambo,
So you have a three bedroom ranch
that has an assessed value
right now of $135,000
and it sells for $250,000.
Does that kind of skew the model?
It sure does, It sure does.
Where's that line if I'm
gonna make adjustments
on these homes and I
really haven't decided
where that line will be.
And you and I, I think
had some conversations
in the past about this.
In the past I looked at it
that it's zoned residential,
it can only be used as residential.
Now as we had talked tonight with,
the board had talked with Mr Steffens,
having other uses available to them now.
I do have to give that
consideration that these homes,
even though they're zoned residential
they have a higher use.
It's difficult.
There's also those parties
that have no desire to sell.
It's just a elderly couple
that are gonna live out
their years in that house,
and I have to have equity,
I have to treat 'em all the same.
If I raise one I can't just spot re-val.
They all go up or they all go
down within a defined area.
So I haven't completely
determined how I'm gonna do it.
I've based that on Stadium
Drive already in the past
and at the last re-val,
and for the most part
I raised them all.
I had one legislator tell me
when I voiced my frustration
with what they did with
taking away our zoning rights
for short-term rentals.
It was not Mr Steffen.
But there was a legislator that told me
that it was a good thing for the Village
because we could just
raise everybody's taxes
when they sell their
homes for all that money,
and it's not a big deal.
You'll get more money.
And I'm like, no it doesn't
really work that way.
So even they don't know how
it works down in Madison.
Thank you Mike.
Sure.
If there's any questions?
Anybody have any questions
on tax assessment.
Oh yeah.
Okay,
Thank you.
Thank you Mike.
Okay, 10 I, action on amendment
to Ash Park Planned Unit Development
for proposed building and site alterations
located at 737 Cormier Road.
Todd.
Now this is the former
Ashwaubenon Historical Society building,
is going the process right
now of reconstruction,
remodeling to be a location
of a Prevea clinic.
I believe it's to do
with your ideal weight.
It's a different,
they're coming out of one facility,
going into this one here.
Essentially what's gonna
take place is the front,
about 610 square feet
of the existing building
will be taken off, will be demoed
off the front of the building.
Then the front elevation will line up with
what's next to the Harbor
Wealth, very close.
It'll be set back little bit further.
The new building will
have the same material
which will be split-face
block at the base,
brick the majority of it,
and a EIFS at the top.
So it will be stylish, it
will blend buildings together.
There will be additional
parking in front of the building
as well as on the side so
the overgrown landscaping
that's in there now will be removed.
There are some stipulations
when I went through
the Site Plan Review Committee
which was conditionally
approved earlier this month.
And basically it atides to
leaving two street trees in place
and maintaining them through the process.
Also additional bike
parking and a sidewalk
which would be connected from the building
to the new sidewalk that will
be constructed along Cormier
in that area with the
reconstruction of Cormier Road.
And then additionally they'd be working
with the Engineering Department in regards
to utilizing the existing utilities.
There are two different
water lines in there
so they're trying to clarify which ones
would be better ones to use
for that type of facility.
As well as coordinating again
the road construction inter-access points.
We did go through site plan.
It was initially approved
with those stipulations
and the developer did
agree with those as well
as part of that conditional approval.
This is a amendment to the PewDie
mainly because it does
alter an existing building
within the PewDie boundary.
Okay, any questions or comments?
As Todd said, being on
the Site Plan Committee
it was brought forward to us.
It's a great addition to the property.
It enhances what they're
doing on that corner.
I think it'll be well worth
our time to take care of this,
so if there's no questions,
I'll move to approve
the Ashcare Park planned unit development.
Second.
Okay we have a motion
and a second to approve
the Ash Park Planned unit
development addition.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
10 J action on a request by Jay Dressen,
agent for JESK Investments, LLC,
for an extension of the
Conditional Use Permit
to construct a self-storage development
located at 700 Block Baeten Road
and 707 and 709 Baeten Road.
Todd?
Unfortunately Jay Dressen was
not able to be here tonight,
but he did along the request
in his written documentation.
What he's looking for, I
guess a little history on it.
Back in 2016, actually in October of 2015
it first came before the
board, was tabled at that point
until he could work out the
ownership of the property.
Was approved in 2016, and was amended
when he acquired additional
property in 2017.
So it was March, actually
tomorrow, March 28, 2017
would have been the approval date.
If construction is not commenced
with substantial
construction being completion
which is technically classified
as above the footing and foundation.
So they at least have walls up, or roof,
or something of that nature,
at least on one of the buildings.
It's done within one year,
the conditional use is void.
So that's the request today
is he's asking for a request
to extend his previously
approved Conditional Use Permit
for a six month period.
He currently does have excavators in line
I believe to start in
May with construction
on the building to start in June or July.
So he'll be well within
that six month time-frame.
I would anticipate that he would be close
to actually completing one of
them by the end of September.
With the six month extension it would
actually come to September 26, 2018.
At that point he would have to
have substantial construction
on at least one of them to allow
for the use to be applicable.
As you see in the attached
letter, he has been working
with the Village on a stormwater pond.
That is a separate issue.
It did kind of tie him up
as far as working things out
but this is actually an
extension on the proposed
and conditionally approved,
previously approved
Conditional Use Permit.
If he can work something
out with the Village
on a stormwater pond that's great,
but that's a separate issue
aside from the request tonight.
I actually, Todd, I had a
discussion today with Steve Burr
about the stormwater pond.
And we're constructing three
different ponds this year.
We have Main Avenue pond, Coronis,
and the Ashland pond extension.
So Steve said there's no
plans to be doing that pond
on Baeton Road for a number of years.
It's kind of low down on the totem pole,
so that shouldn't even play into it.
My concern is I don't have a problem
doing this six month extension,
but how much does he have to
have done in that six months.
I mean can he, I just
don't want him to take this
and build one building and then stop.
I believe that, I guess
I'd refer to Tony on that,
but my understanding is once at least
the one building is
built the use is on-site.
Therefore the conditional use
would be applicable then at that point.
It'd be conforming with
the conditional use.
Even if he doesn't build
it the way the site plan
originally was done.
If he only builds one of them.
He still has to maintain
the asphalt surface,
the stormwater ponds, and
everything else that go with it.
But I don't think he
has to build all four.
He'd only have to build one of them.
Okay
Comments, questions?
I just have a general question to anybody.
What's the general
consensus or opinion on,
you see a lot of these
storage units going up now.
And more of 'em in the closer
inside the municipalities.
Is that ever an issue?
Is that,
It's not something we
really like to encourage.
Well our land values are
so high that we also expect
to have higher value in
order to really generate
what comes with that and what we're trying
to do in our community.
They're becoming more popular
in part because there's a lot
of small businesses that are
say, landscape contractors
and things like that, that
need space to work out of.
And so a little bit of
a trend is using that
as an office-space plus
their garage if you will.
But overall it has not really been favored
within the Village.
We have very few of them.
We get a lot of calls for people
who would love to do them.
People like them to be
close to their house
so that's why there's demand for them.
But overall not something
we really historically
have encouraged or have
been excited to have.
Is there, I'm not saying that
I want to discourage them,
'cause they're definitely,
they're useful to me,
and there is a great use for 'em.
But is there a point where
the Village decides enough
and is there a way you can
kind of prevent a bunch of 'em,
an over-infestation of them.
We don't have an over-infestation of them
because they have not been
permitted in most districts.
They're conditional in a few districts.
In this particular case,
from a staff perspective,
I think we thought it was an okay use
because there's a lot of things
that could not happen on that site.
You're bounded by the Army, there,
or the Military Reserve Center.
You're not on a major
thoroughfare in terms
of a commercial district.
So it was somewhat limited
in terms of what its possible uses are.
In previous requests for this particular
Conditional Use Permit
the office-use next to it
has spoken against it.
It was granted though.
I think from a fact perspective,
it's kind of drawn-out long
enough and he's had enough time.
So I guess we leave it up to you,
but certainly from a staff perspective
we would be okay with a denial.
Thank you.
I talked to Jay the
other day and he told me
he wasn't gonna be here.
And I told him I don't have a problem
with the six month extension
but you gotta get it done
or it's gonna go away.
And this passed at Planning Board.
Yes it did.
Yeah
Alright I'll move to approve
the extension to the permit.
It was kind a tough one to push through.
I had a problem with it because
I see things started here
and they just don't get done.
But he did say he's got everybody
in line to move forward,
to get going on this.
The question is, is he gonna continue
after the first building
and I don't know what,
I can't answer something like that
'cause I don't know what his thought is.
I'm assuming it'll continue on.
So we'll give him a six
month permit extension
and see how it goes.
Okay we have a motion.
I need a second if we're
gonna discuss anything though.
Is there a second?
I'll second.
We have a motion and a second
to grant the six month extension.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye
Opposed
No
We have a no here.
We have one no.
Okay, 10 K proclamation request
declaring April 27, 2018,
as Arbor Day in the Village of Ashwaubenon
Jim is not here so I'll let
Rex talk about Arbor Day.
It'll be the day of our next
Village Board meeting I believe.
Correct, by having a
proclamation announcing
that Arbor Day it also
opens up our opportunity
to apply for different
type of grants as well.
One of those being the condition as such.
Basically Arbor Day is just
a day to celebrate trees
and the planting of trees
and the different virtues
that they give a community
including increasing property values.
Okay and it's on Friday, the 27th.
It's not the day of our
next Village Board sorry.
Okay,
Rex question, sometime
back we had what you call
a clean up day, am I gettin'
on the right subject?
Where people, I remember John Otis
taking care of that for us.
Cleaning up, help me with the cleaning up,
I don't know what it was about.
Do we do any of that anymore?
No that was through the
Ashwaubenon Business Association.
They created a clean-up
day in the Village which is
kind of what we would
consider our down-town area.
The different business members
would take different blocks
and basically walk those
blocks and kind of clean up
the winter-time litter
that had accumulated
once all the snow had melted.
But that is no longer.
The organization is not
doing it and no one has taken
the bull by the horns to do that.
Okay
When John did that too,
he was given grant dollars
from American Family Insurance
that helped to facilitate that event.
Yeah a number of us
participated staff-wise.
I'd probably say there was anywhere
between 25 to 35 volunteers.
I think the grant
dollars were used to help
purchase the garbage bags,
the bin for the collection of the garbage,
as well as a sub sandwich dinner
after the event was finished.
Yeah it was a great community event.
Yeah I remember the food and the beverage.
(group laughing)
Okay any more discussion on Arbor Day?
Hearing none, let's go to,
Do we need to approve the proclamation or?
Oh I'm sorry
Sorry.
We need a motion to
approve the proclamation.
I'll move to approve.
Second.
A motion and second to
approve the proclamation.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay L, action on Resolution
Number R3-5-18 to apply
for the 2018 Wisconsin RPC's
and DNR Tree Planting grant program.
Rex.
The Bay Lake Regional Planning Commission
has gotten together with the DNR.
They've been able to
secure some grant funding
to help alleviate the number
of trees that are being removed
with the Emerald Ash Borer infestation.
As such, we feel it certainly
would be appropriate
to apply for that particular grant.
It's a 25% matching grant
which is easily attained
by the Village just by the
fact that we would be the ones
planting the trees using our
equipment, using our labor.
So basically it would be free trees
if we were awarded the grant.
Talking with Tim, you
know we're already doing
a first out for trees.
We're already have other
trees that are planted.
Just looking at his workload he said
that he would feel comfortable
adding on an additional 40
to replace some of the Ash trees
that we'll be removing this year.
Specifically in Ashwaubomay
Park as well as Klipstine Park.
And so we are looking for
approval to apply for that grant
and the accompanying
resolution to go with it.
Move to approve the grant.
Second.
And the resolution?
And the resolution yes.
Mike seconded.
Okay we have a motion and a second
to approve Resolution Number R3-5-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Thank you.
M, review and action
regarding the Water and Sewer
utility purchase of a
2018, two-wheel drive,
extended cab, standard box,
one-half ton pick-up truck.
Mr Mark.
Before you tonight are our
quotes from February 16th
is when the quotes are due
for the pick-up trucks.
We had a budget of $27,500 for the truck.
Sent our quotes out to 14
of our standard dealers that
we get quotes from and the
governmental supply dealerships.
Received five quotes
back, three meetings back,
had a low responsible quote of $25,073
from Ewald for a Ford F-150.
We've gotten a number of
trucks from them in the past.
Staff's recommendation
would be to award the quote
to Ewald Automotive in
that amount of $25,073.
With that, I'll take any questions.
Well I just, I understand
Dog where you're coming from.
And think I know what your question is.
(group laughing)
And I have it listed in there.
And that is something
that the Village Board,
again in all of our
quotes, in all of our bids,
the Village reserves the right
to accept or reject bids.
We've talked about
Ewald before haven't we?
Yes.
And you've been positive about them.
Yup, and we will always recommend
the lowest responsible bidder.
We get calls afterwards.
I'm not saying in this instance
Ewald would call us
directly after the meeting.
But in our bids we get calls afterwards
asking where they placed.
Sure.
And I hold that in pretty high regard,
because if we start saying,
"Uh thanks for your bid,
"and we selected business C because,"
it's one of the most tricky.
It's one of those slippery slopes
where all of a sudden it happens once.
Okay that was nice.
It happens again, we might
not start getting those bids
from those firms, and then all of a sudden
our prices inch up.
And that's the reason why
you see the recommendation
the way it is.
I understand all of that.
Does that make sense everybody?
Oh sure.
That's the reasoning
for the recommendation.
It makes sense but it's less,
I looked at this today too
and it's less than $300
and we could have the same
truck from a local firm
that is a great community partner for us.
And that's the only reason
why I looked at that.
Completely understandable,
and if you make a decision otherwise.
I'm not gonna take my ball
and go home, don't worry.
(group laughing)
But the recommendation
will always from staff
will always be that way in the spirit,
The other bid was still under budget.
Right.
Yeah.
Well I'm gonna gamble.
I know what you're saying Doug
and we don't want to put you in jeopardy
or any Village department for that matter.
What I understand most
is what you said about,
if they don't get it this
time, might be in the future
say well, the H with you,
we're not gonna bid again.
And that's what bothers
me more than anything.
But I have to agree with Mary,
I just think these are,
I'm gonna make a motion to accept
Broadway's Automotive bid for $25,400.
For Broadway?
Yes.
I thought you said Ewald.
No Broadway Auto, I'm
sorry maybe I slipped,
Broadway Automotive for $25,400.
Ewald was the low bid.
Okay, I'm catching up,
I'm catching up, alright.
Okay we have a motion.
Do we have a second?
Second. God I gotta say second
for a Ford though?
Hey first on race day.
What's wrong with a GMC?
Okay we have a motion
and a second to recommend
the purchase from Broadway
Automotive for $25,400.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Okay, N, review and approval
of Resolution Number R3-1-18
supporting the Village of
Ashwaubenon's application
for a Wisconsin Department
of Transportation,
Transportation Alternatives Program grant
for bicycle and pedestrian
improvements on West Main Avenue.
Doug.
See Ken, it wasn't too bad Ken.
I didn't take my ball and go home.
I'm still here to bore you
with the next topic, so.
Maybe that's the punishment.
(group laughs)
Yeah, now I'm gonna get back at you.
For the next hour and a half
we're gonna talk about TAP grants.
What this is folks is
in our Bike and Pet plan
and in our TIP War plan, we
have a trail project proposed
to go from Sand Acres, connecting
the trail on Sand Acres,
and on West Main Avenue, and
our Industrial Park trail,
to the sidewalk at the
western round-abouts
of 41 and Main Avenue.
There are two or three
pretty good challenges
along that project.
Crossing a couple of culvert
extensions, some grade issues.
So what the Village did was it applied
for a state TAP grant,
Transportational
Alternatives Program grant.
And as part of that grant process
there is a resolution of support
from the local jurisdiction
for the project, which is what
you have before you tonight.
As an update, this project, our
project, ranked third place.
The top two get funding.
However the top two have not
accepted the funding as of yet
so I want to still continue
with our resolution
in the event that one
of those two communities
on their funding would turn it down.
Then we would fall into
place for getting funding.
And then we'd would use
this resolution also,
we're going after a couple other grants
that we'd like to use this paperwork in.
So that's the long and short of it.
I move to approve Resolution R3-1-18.
Second.
We have a motion and a second
to approve Resolution Number R3-1-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
O, request to approve Resolution R3-4-18
amending TID 5 boundaries
and project plan.
I'd like to amend the TID
5 boundary and project plan
What?
(laughing) I can go through it again.
All of you have heard it
like a few different times.
But essentially we're adding
the land next to Village Hall
for the baseball stadium.
The parcels across the
street, one of them vacant,
one of them, it's a building on it,
but the building is vacant.
We're also adding the
Capital Credit Union property
because they have retained
a portion of property
that's in TID, that would join
with their existing property.
So that kinda cleans that area up.
And then the area around the
expo center, Resch Center,
in case we need to access
TID funds for any type
of private development that may be added
to the expo project or potential road
or other utility
improvements that would maybe
be needed in that area.
The project plan is also amended in order
to accomplish our goals with respect
to the baseball stadium.
Overall the project plan is also,
you'll see a cash flow at the very end.
That's just a projection.
It's amended in terms of
things we do know at this point
in terms of the multi-phase
projects that we have,
and valuations that we
are seeing come through.
But then again some of its
just assessing the
properties that are there.
That are vacant or could be redeveloped,
and trying to estimate
what the most likely use
or value of those are.
So again, just a projection
but it would still reflect
the TID cash flowing with
current and anticipated expenses
by the end of the life of the TID.
And if you approve it
today, it will then go
to the joint review board
next week on April 3rd
and if they approve, the TID amendment
would go into place
effective January 1, 2018.
So long as we approve before
October 1st basically,
it would be retroactive
to the first of the year.
And I can certainly ask and answer
any other specific questions you have.
Move to approve Resolution R3-4-18.
Second.
Motion and a second to
approve Resolution R3-4-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
P, action on Ordinance Number
03-02-18 changing street name
for William Charles Court to Element Way.
Tony.
This is just for the
part from Oneida Street
to the end of the cul-de-sac.
We just want you to approve it,
Any questions?
Thank you.
Ken is it alright with you?
(laughing) Why certainly.
Why would we say no, right?
We could call it Kennith,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Move to approve.
There you go.
Second.
We have a motion and a second
to approve Ordinance Number 03-02-18.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Q, request to amend PAC staffing.
Alison.
Let me take it.
Yeah you take a rest.
Several months ago we decided to try
and hire a part-time
administrative assistant
and a part-time technical
person at the PAC.
It's getting bigger,
and bigger, and bigger.
I've seen a rough-draft of next seasons,
it's not finalized yet, but it's gonna be
a nice, nice season next year.
In fact, the last one
of this year, June 1st,
as you know it's the Little River Band,
and that was a huge accomplishment
to bring something like that in.
So, what happened is that
there were no applicants
for the technical position,
lighting and sound.
Those folks are hard to come by
and right now we have to rent.
When we don't have the
people at the facility,
which we don't, who are,
we have some who are barely,
that's the wrong word to use.
They're capable but not of handling
all of the very technical
appliances that are needed,
and the sound, and the lighting
when we get a bigger
performance by a bigger group.
So anyway, to do it right, Kate would like
to just let you know, that she's changed
from a half-time administrative assistant
and a half-time technical person,
to try and hire a
full-time technical person
and forget the administrative
person for now.
And hopefully we can
get someone to do that.
Just, I didn't know this,
but Kate and I were talking
the other day and she said,
"Oh, thank the Village
"for the company switch."
That came from donated money.
I said, "What's the company switch?"
Well it's expensive, it
was fairly expensive.
I forget what it was.
And she said, "Well when a band
"like Little River Band comes in,
"if they hook in to our electricity
"(chuckling) everything pops."
So this company switch
is a 200 amp switch,
which allows them to plug into that
and doesn't affect any of
our other lighting or sound.
So, I mean that's how
complicated this stuff gets.
I'm sure you folks have
been to performances
where the sound just blows
you out of your seat,
or the lighting.
I went to one in Manitowac
the other night with Kate.
We were scouting out a performance
by the Red Hot Chili Pipers,
anyway we're trying to get them in here.
Yes they were great.
Anyway the lighting for
that show in Maniwa,
it was incredible, just incredible.
And they have two strobe lights,
I mean they could have a lotta light,
but two especially, two strobe lights.
Those cost $6000 to purchase.
We don't have them.
If we need them we'll have to rent them.
But so anyway, to make a long story short,
just some information.
She's moving from half-time, half-time
to a full-time technical person.
So no more money is needed
she can take care of it
and hopefully it'll work.
So, I know that's a long story but,
You have budgeted for the
two different positions.
The new, by combining them,
there will now require to
be different benefit levels
and what-not is required about that.
So she is still adjusting the position
to fall within the range
all-inclusive of benefits.
This position is also shared
with the school district.
So they will continue to
fund it and then in addition
as the success, they are having
great success at the PAC,
and as that continues
and there are revenues.
We have kind of agreed that
we would stock-pile some,
for kind of like a rainy day fund
and to help sponsor and kick-off shows.
But to the extent
there's funds above that,
those would go towards
reducing our expenses
in relation to this position
and then the half-funding
we have for Kate's position as well.
So I technically have it
on as a approval for you
to vote on it just in terms
of it's an official staffing change,
but you can do what you will.
Kate is not here because
I did not anticipate
that you would have a lot
of issues with this issue.
Well I'll make a motion to approve,
but before I do that. I just
wanted the board to know
that fund-raising is continuing.
We are continuing out there in
the community to raise funds.
We're gonna try to get
sponsors for our shows.
We did it well this year.
Kate did a good job.
I got some and there were
some others that came in
and we're doing the same next year.
We're working on a overall season sponsor.
We've got a couple of hopeful,
positive prospects that we're working on.
But we're not just
letting it go financially.
Financially it's doing
fairly well actually,
better than I thought it would.
But we're continuing to work on financing
the operation of that PAC.
We're not sitting on
our laurels so to speak.
We're continuing to do that,
so just so you know that.
So in the face of that, I'll
make a motion to approve
the item here for the Technical Director.
Alright I'll second
if there's no other questions.
Okay we have a motion and a second
to approve the request to
amend the PAC staffing.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carried.
Any items for next agenda?
Yeah, just one, I see the
Plan Commission Meeting
is canceled next Tuesday.
Would it be a big problem
is we had Public Works
at 5:00 instead of 5:30?
5:30's right in the middle of,
I was gonna say cocktail
hour, but it's dinner really.
But if we could do it at 5:00
instead of 5:30 would that,
Gary can you make 5:00?
Oh you're not on public works, I'm sorry.
No I'm not but I'm at
every one of the meetings.
Yeah you are.
It does interfere with,
No I'm not on it.
You're not on it, who is?
I'm chair of it.
Oh is 5;00 alright with you.
Yeah sure.
I think most of the other
members, if not all,
are very tired or,
Allison can you make 5:00?
She's not on it.
I can make it work.
Oh wonderful.
I'm on Planning Commission.
I'm sorry?
Planning is canceled.
Oh it's Public Works
that we're talking about?
Yeah, you're not on Public Works.
What about the young fellow?
The Banker?
Josh.
Josh.
Well Terry can get a hold of him.
Yeah can you do it at 5:00?
Yeah we can try and schedule that.
I just want everyone,
I don't think that this
is gonna be an issue,
but we do have the Joint
Review Board meeting,
one at 4:15 and another one at 4:30.
That's still leaves them a half hour,
but I just didn't want to cut off,
What do you have at 4:30?
Joint Review Board for the TID amendments
and then the Annual Review.
I think that will still be adequate time
I just wanted to let you know that
and I will have Terry work on that.
If you can that would be appreciated.
Let us know then will you?
I would note one of the
members of the Committee
in question is an election
inspector and will not be
in attendance for that meeting.
At either 5:00 or 5:30?
Correct
Okay.
Okay,
Number 12 closed session.
Thank you.
During the meeting of the Village Board
of the Village of Ashwaubenon may convene
into Closed Session pursuant to
Wisconsin Statute Section 19.85 (1)(c)
for the purpose of discussion
and possible action
on personnel matters
related to the employment,
compensation, or
performance evaluation data
of a Public Safety employee
over which the Village Board
has jurisdiction or
exercises responsibility.
Also B Wisconsin Statute
Section 19.85 (1)(e)
for the purpose of discussion
and possible action
on deliberating or investing public funds
regarding Public Safety
specialized assignments
or job specialties where
competitive and bargaining reasons
require a closed session.
The Village Board may thereafter
reconvene in open session
pursuant to Wisconsin
Statute Section 19.85 (2)
to report the results
of the closed session
and consider the balance of the agenda.
I'll accept a motion to convene
into closed session Madame President.
So moved.
Second
Have a motion and a second
to go into closed session.
Voice roll-call please.
Trustee Allison Williams?
Yes.
Trustee Paul?
Yes.
Trustee Zirbel?
Yes.
Trustee Bukowski
Yes.
Trustee Malcheski
Yes.
President Kardoskee?
Yes.
With Trustee Mark Williams excused.
Okay.
We are in closed session.
We are going into closed,
