They met with 12 special guests over 4
epic days on one incredible journey
now let's hear what Ben and Rob have to
say about Contact in the Desert
Hey I'm Rob Counts and I'm the 
host at Edge of Wonder
hi I'm Ben I'm one of the hosts for Edge
of Wonder
I really didn't know what to expect when we left
for Indian Wells from New York
I mean you know I've heard
things about Contact in the Desert I
knew a bunch about about the conference
but I was not really prepared for how
awesome it was going to be
to have all of these people who this is their life
this is what they're studying this is
what they're researching to all be in
one place and to have this open
environment where you can all talk about
it was like insane
I had no idea
I was just hoping that we would be able to at least connect with a few people maybe interview people.
The amount of
information and confirmation that I got
about a lot of the things that Ben and I
have been looking into was like
mind-blowing really because like it was
just great to have that like validation
and the work that we've been doing and
like the truth that we've been trying to get out there
Maaaaan
all of them were really good that we saw
for sure it's really hard 
to choose just one.
Well it's hard to say one cause they
there were so many phenomenal speakers
like it was and it was different every place you went
the two that kind of blew
my mind more than anything were
definitely Emery Smith and David Wilcock.
The conversation between David Wilcock
and Emery Smith on the very last day
they had like a three and a half hour
conversation that wasn't even planned
I mean it was just like last spur of the
moment they're like hey you know we're
doing this final workshop thing and that
was phenomenal they talked about things
that Emery Smith never talked about before
David Wilcock never even heard
before.
For those of you who don't know I mean Emery is one of the biggest
insiders right now
just recently came forward in December
and I mean some of the stuff he's been
telling us about everything going on in
these bases where he's worked the
technology he's been involved with
I mean like the encounters he's had with
extraterrestrials some of the missions
he's been on
it was like it's honestly
like crazier
than the craziest movie
you've ever seen
In the middle of it
they even started he stirred referencing
snow white and started saying mirror
mirror on the wall
and I just couldn't
hold back anymore and actually stood up
and I was talking about this and I was
like hey it's not mirror mirror on the
wall anymore it's magic mirror on the
wall
and I was asking him like do you
know what's going on
and so we
started to I started mentioning a little
bit about the Mandela Effect
It was just awesome 
I mean you can't really get more
awesome than that
I mean there was a lot
of things that was said
my gosh actually to choose one thing it's kind
of hard
It's not like it was one thing
it was really this retelling
from Emery
Smith of some of the projects he's been
involved with with like interplanetary
traveling through portals which is like
what? we can do that?? I mean really who's
talking about that right.
I'm gonna say two
Emery Smith was talking about the
there's this technology that people use
they get in special suits and they're
in a huge gigantic area and they can
actually project themselves to a
different area as these like shadow-like
images and they can like what he was
saying was that he saw some in his home
putting like wire taps around in his
home
he even kind of explained it was
almost like a virtual reality thing that
they put on it goes all over their body
and then they have to be an open area
because they have to have room to move
and it was just really kind of freaking and eerie
on a like a crazy deeper level I
would say it was the interview with
Dr. Michael Salla
he put together
something that kind of this missing
piece that we were kind of looking for
that we couldn't quite figure out and it
has to do with Antarctica what's in
Antarctica and why Antarctica is kind of
like the battleground of disclosure
right now
like the truth is stranger than fiction
It really is.
Man there was actually a lot of funny stuff at the event
there was some a lot of comical things going around
I mean I keep talking about Emery
Smith but man he was just kind of like
the rock star there and he was just he
was really really funny and also kind of
serious at the same time when Emery
Smith was explaining who Bigfoot really is
so some guy like very long
winded question this guy asks who
Bigfoot is and Emery is telling us that
you know in the Everglades Bigfoot is
they call them skunk Apes and it's
actually the reason why you can't see it
all the time is that they're
inter-dimensional foragers who come here to harvest things
and which is just like
everyone was just like... okay
I can't remember what they called it but it was this Raygun that they were talking about
that when you shoot somebody
it just completely evaporizes them
it's like. What was it? Nozzler. Yea, that's it! The Nozzler.
So they were talking about this thing and I mean it's
just this crazy insane like why would
anyone even invent this weapon
I mean it
shoots out this ball with this
stuff around it and then if it hits you
you're just completely vaporized in
like a pile of ashes
it's what you see them
like a lot of sci-fi Star Trek movies or whatever you know
what I actually really cherish about it
is that no one had to feel bad about
talking about these things
I think if
you're in ordinary society and you're
walking around and you start telling
someone you got abducted by aliens
people are gonna look at you like you
were crazy
but in this environment people are like look something happened to me I don't know what happened to me
but something happened to me and like
I'm trying I'm here to get answers you know.
It was just really interesting you
know these people are all very in tune
with their surroundings I mean we would
just be walking from one place to the
other and I would just hear like just
crazy conversations next to me of people
walking and they were just like yeah
like the other day I was meditating and
I connected with Lord Ashtar from you
know the Paledian region and whatnot
it's just like wow you know you can
really just say anything to anybody
I mean you could just meditate right here
on the floor on the grass and you know
people probably end up sitting by you
and joining you
it was good to have an event where people who were seriously looking for answers can ask them and
and actually try to get one.
It kind of feels like one big family in a way
yes it did actually quite a bit
I mean I think it didn't change my perceptions
I think it furthered them I was aware of
how big a subject this was but then to
be in contact with people with so much
information that they've gathered over
such a long period of time either
interviewing people doing research or
actually having contact with some of
these entities it's mind blowing and
you'd like definitely like I have a
broader understanding of how it works
and and you know a lot of people when
they're thinking about extraterrestrials
they automatically think these weird
grey evil aliens and it's like not I
guess that's that that's a thing
apparently right but it's not like those
are the only beings and not like there
are positive ones apparently that really
want to see the human race stop doing
stupid things stop you know like trying
to kill one another and actually advance
themselves spiritually and mentally and
you know if that's true that's great I
mean that's you know that's a much
different picture than the movies are
telling us
it's like a lot of these entities are waiting for the human raceto to evolve and be more compassionate
and more that we're compassionate and
put aside all of our like hate and anger
and war and jealousy and all this
stuff it's like the more that
they're gonna be revealing themselves to
us and try to help the human race I guess.
I think the highlight of the event for
me was seeing Emery Smith kind of let
loose a little bit on everything that
he's been experiencing actually he's
like a really down-to-earth funny guy
I would definitely say which was a
complete shock to me was when we went
out at night with Emery Smith there was
about a hundred people or so and they're
gonna see if we can contact a UFO
or aliens or not aliens ETs
what they did was he had this like this
machine that that generated this special
kind of light and it gave off a sound
and it was different tones so what they
do is they play these sounds they
actually his wife I think it was his
wife yeah it was his wife that read um
original text in Sanskrit they shine
this light this really powerful
laser light in the sky
so then he blinks it three times still shining up in the sky
as soon as she does that we start seeing
these long huge blue streaks of lights
in the sky going across the entire sky
and it wasn't like a craft moving it was
like a stream of light going across and
then he's like hey you guys you see
these long trail of lights and we're
like yeah and he's like that's them
he said they are scanning the entire area
to see what who's here you know what's
our intentions is what they're doing and
he's like you got to remember they're
not coming from like outer space and
then coming to here they're coming from
another dimension and they could be very
very small and in that dimension
they're very tiny and in our dimension
they'll be big so they can actually
there it's not like one they're not
restricted in size or time or space even
so and he said also they can even
come up from the ground they don't have
to come from the sky and he's like
usually they'll, the first night is just
kind of making contact and then later on
that they might actually start showing
themselves or you will see the craft
above them and whatnot
and I'm just like wow that's crazy you know that was kind of like
that just the whole experience just kind
of blew me away
so after all of that and he's like okay
you know it was over
he's like hey if anyone wants to stay I have a very
special gift and he pulls out his
replica of the Atacama skeleton
the one that we actually did a video on
that was just awesome because I you know
we made this video I've been following
the skeleton for a while what it is
it was a lot of fun we had a lot of fun
we've learned a lot there I probably
I probably wouldn't use a sentence
yeah I mean it was just mind-blowing
I think the thing that I was most
shocked about was how many people came
up to us and told us what positive
energy that we seemed to have and I was
blown away about how many people even
people we were interviewing kept telling us
we're gonna succeed at what we're doing
for sure I would definitely come back
again next year.
Yeah I mean lightning fast
I really hope we get to be involved
again in this and but I have a feeling
next year it's gonna be a much different
situation when we walk through those doors
the amount of episodes that we'll
have out the amount of what the amount
of contacts that we made. Amount that's
gonna happen over the next year you know
if things go the way that these folks at
the at the event are talking there's
gonna be a lot that happens this year
and there's gonna be a lot of discussion
on these things and I'm really looking
forward to next year's Contact in the Desert
It's gone on way too long where people
have gotten criticized for discussing
this stuff and this needs to get worked out and that's what the Edge of Wonder is gonna do I think
yeah it was just it
was just great it really exceeded the
expectations that I had for sure
that much history, truth coming out
different people involved in these things who've
been collecting this information for so many years
putting their lives on the
line in many cases
just an awesome event to go to and to experience all of that to make new contacts to make new friends
to be able to deliver new content to our
viewers which is like what Ben and I are
all about you know
like this stuff needs
to get out there and it needs to be mainstream
what we realized there is like
wow we are now part of this disclosure
that we want to bring to the world and
that's I think that's the most amazing thing
seeing disclosure onstage
happening right now about all of this
and to be a part of this is just amazing
it's tough for people to talk about
these things but we should be able to
talk openly about them this is a free
country and a free world to do that and
you know let's get the word out there
about this stuff especially if it's true
hopefully more people can be more open to a lot of more things out there
it was a wild ride it was really fun
Contact in the Desert is the biggest conference in the world and I'm privileged to be a part of it
Just notice moment to moment has been the best
highlights like the synchronicities
bumping into this person that person
what I was really surprised about some
of the people I really admire that our
other speakers that I haven't had the
chance of meeting they're like oh yeah I
follow your work I've got quotes of you
in my book
the idea that humanity could be this unique thing
that's what's mind-boggling that people can think that
we're all there is you know
I think one
of the things that's going to
characterize the next 20 years is that
we look at mysteries fresh.
Especially mysteries in science and then
anything that can't be explained by the
known properties of physical matter in
the current standard model is by
definition not real and I think that
that's pretty quickly being overturned
And hopefully they'll get a better
understanding and also see that there
was a very advanced civilization here
that came.
their civilization was based
on these what we would call high
spiritual principles we have lost
something perhaps from a spiritual
consciousness point of view
I want to show these people that that were wrong. That what they did to me was wrong
but that this is something that should
be studied in universities that
shouldn't be you know pushed aside I
want to show that these you know these
people you know these are bureaucrats
deep state that it's wrong to do this to
people who recognize the truth they
shouldn't be punished
they don't want that they need
to protect their property they want
those cubicles filled and they are not
going to let that be interfered with by
correct scientific findings
scientists
will never ever get us to the truth
of the world we live in
only investigators will do that only
investigators can get us that
we're in this overlapping multiverse and when we
realized were part of this overlapping
multiverse
things like the Mandela Effect and other crazy deja vu
experiences and synchronicities will all
be more meaningful and when you realize we're
overlapping right now
and it's an amazing time to be alive
if you weren't backing me up I would not be doing this
because it's just so dangerous and I've already
lost all my family
they just killed my
dog recently and you know intentionally
I'm sorry man
but it's okay we're going to keep going
I'm not stopping
this is exciting because it's making science exciting
again
it's I think it's reenchanting
science in a way that there is you know
extremely needed especially if we're
gonna create the tech that's gonna save us
if you use your computers
intelligently you could stop war and you
can stop polluting your planet
now is the time to really look again to the
message
we're here to end this vicious
cycle of life death birth you know
reincarnation which keeps us locked in
this dark negative matrix of war and
this and corporate economic slavery
we're learning that we're living in a
matrix
and every once while things get
through the matrix and scare us
so if we can wake up become conscious aware of
the what's going on and we have a chance
of creating a better reality for all of us
The truth is coming and it has to do
with your own experiences that's what proof is
proof is on the inside
you'll see it you'll see it coming ashore
it's coming ashore right now in full
disclosure hopefully by the end of this year 2018
I love hanging out with you
guys thank you so much for interviewing me
this is a super high point for me I
would say it's like at the tippy top
And I will continue doing my part to be getting the truth
out there so long as you study and get
the truth the truth will set you free
and we'll see you guys out on the Edge
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