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attachments plays gentlemen this guy has
has finished many kinds of plays a
doctor is an astronaut is a center of
United States what he said executive
human born in Santa Rita new mexico in
various into Mexico he went to school a
space for science degree in California
in technology spent about a year in Oslo
and university there studying for
graduate degree and then also he ended
up getting his a doctorate in geology
from harp which one best scores United
States something
he went to flight school at the Women's
Air Force Base in Arizona 2100 hours and
planes 600,000 jets something else
elbows they selected to be an astronaut
in 1965 and by the way he holds the only
title that the Apollo has have
scientists astronaut only one right
there and he's been about three hours 31
hours on the moon for 22 hours to days
of the moon
he was the backup guy for Jim Irwin on
the command module 4 1500 not reviewing
fuse back up for that and in the moment
he's going to come here and take over
history you know i'm talking about
Harrison spit that's his name
I sir
thank you let's give him a hand
thank you might want to gather
I'll be right back
now when they climb on board i give a
hand for mr. coma for and harrison spit
on it which exact result of folks here
they come get on a big hand folks and
sure he was a steak or well around
upside down right over all of you know
where we are right at 34 you heard about
34 it was of course the scene in the
unfortunate and tragic loss test- true
but many people including myself on
reflection
think that that sacrifice really made
possible meet John Kennedy's
because it
even though nasa had pretty worked out
how to manage the Apollo program by that
time that accident focus attention on
the water too thanks and we left base
and then one of them had to do
the more much more careful management of
the
the way the command module was outfit
and and also some of the materials that
will put into the demand marvel that
revival one of those materials are not
big like alt
and so they had to revise the
coming as well as the nature of the
material but put in
and they had a lot of things with them
that result of the action was the great
George Woolf and
the opposition has follow spacecraft
program manager Houston and was
absolutely the perfect person for that
job and he assigned none other than
Frank Warren to meet his price years and
basically onsite manager at the park
american rock walls was called them
the man Martin
and the members all of that team and our
hand of course everybody else who's
supporting them
erin go on and people effect
stature plus that we ended up flying a
nearly perfect format box with a
fellowship
few minor things but it was ready to go
and it meant that Jose plan she
envisioned actually in august of 68 and
plan to take
second flight of a model command module
around boom google for a reason for that
plan coming up is that the lunar module
built by the drama corporation every
corporation that face for
that was we had fallen behind it and so
that we needed to do some things to keep
momentum of the program born and all
proposed and successfully proposed that
we get a bottle seven more successful
that in December 90cc
you would take here the event our
children ! Frank Borman
and gentlemen the Landers Ford around
them and actually not only take around
the world but living in or that meant
that we were going to work out every
thing that had to do with the flight to
the moon except landing in that period
of time and that was done within four
months concept sold and we look forward
with that for much
remarkable one was able people were able
to those asian in that context night
from december 19 November really of 1968
november 1969 we launched a politician
most other when all the one of them was
saturday five every two months
and then of course the program sold out
of debt and and then a lot with a bottle
of change your bubbles on the other
clusters and you can tell you about 4
130
although when I i wish that had just
been assigned to the backup crew of
Apollo 15 reason for our celebration
here
today
and I was down here in the kennedy space
center
taking using the simulator that's
everybody else in houston and I figured
I'd you get a lot of simulator time said
so the launch model 13 people down here
we're looking for things to do and so I
let a lot of training for me but when
the explosion occurred on your model or
13 spacecraft we immediately the
simulator
to myself began to work on the
procedures necessary
in order to bring her back not only
developing some of the application but
testing the procedures that will be
finalized
so this whole plane carries an awful lot
man
aggression
national incident that happened
answering questions that is greatly as i
can and get a lot of questions
playback
what do you like to walk on the bottom
and gentleman from roswell new mexico
spread straight three part of the state
then i from and
no that's something that's extremely
hard to let you know like talk to your
physical feeling and what it looked like
things like that was very well but the
emotional side of it is like almost
anything else that you knew that is
only one of the meaningful experiences
of your life you have to be there
captain doing
and i don't know how many of use and
walked up to the rim of the Grand Canyon
for the first time someone join the
whole event first child
the second third fourth those are those
kind of experiences in life that
there she never gets you no matter how
much people touch about
you're going to have to experience
for yourself that with respect to the
apollo 17 mission we landed in a valley
on the bone
call about a charge controller
deep all valley that radiated radiates
from
one of the large information station
that's almost 500 miles in diameter
it's more than that Mason for
wire series of wolves
the but it is a valley deeper than the
Grand king
that amount on either side side Christ
or six seven thousand
it's there or it's only a lot
haha
about four-and-a-half miles wide and
it's ours morning we're added
is illuminated my day at least by a
brilliant son as you might expect
and but the bank i found partisan used
to running everything I used to visit
and slide that bright Sun the sky is
black
absolutely right
here
such Alex book
but there's no atmosphere around them
no color from that this guy and maybe
bowling with more pressing to me was it
anytime you wanted to look at more
southwestern mountains see this
beautiful
planet Earth and white whatever make it
over the mountain and anytime you're all
the bone the earth space roughly in the
same park all day
that's a part of the shower all day and
all night because the moon is always
keeping one face towards your mangy
where are the earth in a different on
the mode its intended purpose in every
place but college station
if you were right in the center point of
the mode
fuck you
that all the time manager and the rising
over the
the edge of this year
the our strategy right down the rising
so anytime you see a picture of the air
is there some wallpaper ground chicken
by East people I
it shows us working in the valley charge
control but it also shows the middle of
the earth just above the rice of course
am totally inconsistent somebody just
stuck hit that and then picture it also
people do strange things
it also they change the
the shadow line terminator the earth on
that picture and then I never figured
that one out the worst use of the
picture of the earth that i took that
supporters with the continent of Africa
and you feel like seeing that i took
that from 34,000 miles away on the
latest phone
the worst years of it though was in a
mermaid on it they're playing it
TWA were still an active airline there
they're onboard fantasy had that picture
and they decided that the Indian Ocean
but the levee so they had moved in
Australia over into the other side
another photoshop I don't get a panic
time they figured out some way to do it
any other questions yes
posture
any experiments on the moon involved are
searching for water our field
exploration on the phone on the field
geologist was designed to want to look
for anything unusual
and so what if we found in water and
probably will but notice to coerce me
sample extensively
and across those samples back
particularly the
Green samples of debris that covers the
middle call that regular
one of your french get outta here in the
National with the geological main from
the great layer of struggling
when we are we having the community
analyze those we found that they contain
significant amounts of hydrogen that is
derived from the
the particles in comfort the son of
protons
when protons impact the moon they
collected like the wrong and become
hydrogen that's what I wrote on that
front
and that my crew of course
you heat out the records say
maybe a thousand degrees per I it will
react with the oxygen and the minerals
and for this water
so even make water anywhere just heat up
regular that now we now know that
there's apparently a significant water
ice at the poles and that was discovered
liar why the spacecraft
is actually currently in orbit around a
little reconnaissance orbiter and in
fact that it's
surface then get inside one of the
creators of the polls that has permanent
shadow that permanent shadow fall's of
the road has a temperature just 40
degrees above absolute see work
really cool
and.and in those graters there appears
to be a significant amount of one rise
as well as probably some other bottle
material now we don't know exactly the
origin than bodies may have come from
the attack of comments on the surface
with some of the water in conference any
of these permanently shadowed very cold
places or it may have come from the
interior of the moment over
here's mr. cute
until you actually get a sample of that
look at the isotopic composition really
want to have an answer that
yes your experience / going
serving in the Senate
in my experience was discovered in order
to the moon hard serving at the Senate
well let me give you the difference
going to the moon
we were dealing with a very large number
of people dedicated to a specific goal
and doing that and meeting that goal
successful
working in the Senate that wasn't quite
get it
it wasn't it was an interesting
transition you realize that you have
your working with people who have their
own political party not a target on
political interest in my how things to
change even since i was in my life
involuntarily in 1982 networking three
at that time
to that time there were some of the old
hands in the Senate Democratic
Republican
I had really
would have to call into town and they
were they seem to all have entered
watching minus
I don't sense that if i were there now
thank you
rare
person
that
i was thinking in those terms
as much as it was
i should say i heard much honest work
was particularly noticeable i think in
the
gentlemen I remember is working with
word for this
over Southern Democrats
and not just the Senate Democrats I was
there when you've been hungry with
scoop Jackson abortion
people really had the feeling that
or you might disagree on something
that
these are trying to work
mark white children
yes
40 years of the Apollo missions
here this is for you to have a colony on
the moon
am I disappointed we don't have a
college loan after 40 years
well I am I was disappointed when I
realized that the
and there were nasa had snot flying
chatter box
like I've been there
and spacecraft to send them
that actually I'm just discovered
recently underwent a fair amount of
research on this
that decision
basically counterbattery countermanded
the Eisenhower Kennedy
decisions to build the second part
and all of my way to take
Kennedy's times
challenger country
that decision to stop that began on the
Johnson
1968 it was concerned confirmed by the
Nixon administration
so just in that short period of time we
made the decision to
not advertise do not use the investment
that we
two about and
there are a lot of people you're
complicit in that position cooking asset
manager
but yeah I think historically analogy
say that it is
it was a major here
really began
gradual
the gradual decline of national space
policy that doesn't mean the special
wasn't magnificent accomplishment that
they finally after many presents stars
space station is negative but we
abandoned space and from the national
political point new levels and with the
saturn fly that we have maintained that
simply like some some acres hold them
that we could have we would still have
that kind of capability for you
way back then
somebody repeat the question I got
something about growing up
sure
Apollo I yeah the tool for spacecraft
fire that that was
combination of circumstances where there
were we were fully much faster than we
should have and work all the things we
do that
could be fixing that spacecraft at
nominations including a removable
flammable materials and somehow or
another electrical short probably
electrical short trigger fire and the
hatch at that time the spacecraft hatch
was not designed for quickie groups
after the fire was like that when I was
in this in the spacecraft during launch
and other times i was responsible for
making sure that hatch was ready for
printing press
they make sure it was but also by that
time the time I through internal by the
time model 1100 way the straight
spacecraft was really of what we call a
black to spaceman
those kinds of missions
yes by the way if anybody has any
questions we just went by the Vehicle
Assembly Building
that said the time it was built the
largest equal space in the world and
that
that there later has been superseded I
know by the mall of america
and I understand that the boy assembly
plant from 787 bigger
only one reason it's so big and if you
look carefully you see
go around and you'll see more of these
extremely high all floors
well when we went the Apollo program was
conceived under initially under
Eisenhower and then
concentrated on Kennedy
back to know that it was
it was thought that we would be watching
saturday flies much more frequently than
even i described and and so it was built
to handle the assembly of for saturday
57 times
out was it has been utilized fully
almost particularly the way it was
redesigned to handle the shuttle also
that interior spaces
Hasmik are useful to us and hopefully
will be you
you
it's a remarkable building
it's been
remember when I for the first time I was
taken there is a young astronaut we went
inside and said they just look up there
were clouds part of this looks like
clouds but there was the best offer
I've never been that guy Thank You
shorter remember that experience
yes also personally walked in the room
and served the circle
ankush
welcome a solution well can you tell
about my shoot
wanted to don't it's 450 to get it so
well and may I add one more thing I was
only geologist for doing that so I i
I've sort of been into it
I'm very proud of the category honor in
that category
the ipod the only thing I can really
recommend is that you you have to be
prepared to take advantage of blood
and we almost like that
the Greenwich we can take advantage is
called of opportunity
some people comment want is to be
prepared to do that and you start that
preparation starts with its broad
is complete and education possible
and i was fortunate in many ways with my
family
primarily consisting
guess I was well it together is good and
education is my brain you're climbing
get that's the best that you can be and
that's what you have
otherwise if the opportunity comes along
you need the wall ranking nice and where
you won't have the confidence to take
advantage of the point
so education absolutely fundamental
if I had to pick one major long-term
issue have to deal with in this country
it's fast group
this education system that we're allowed
to get away from me
Adventure something somewhat different
than what we're after the day when it
it underlies i think almost all over
problem
question how did you learn that
final generation
now I were approaching that 30 high day
and all of the missions to the moon went
out of this particular location
yet it is not
quite as impressive as it was for Saturn
5 imagine that launched structure being
a lot about twice as high for the for
the center is about twice as hard for
the saturn this is a show really didn't
launch structure
yeah this I think putting the mast don't
know that to the to the top of the
Masters 380 feet to the top of the
Apollo structure was 400 something hot
water into or something
and
one of the things I remember coming out
here it only came out for launch every
other time we've been out of the
launchpad there are people who are young
hundreds of people
moving around doing things like that
when we came out the launch in December
in December 619 that 72 they dropped us
off at the base of this huge Tower
launched
there wasn't anybody there no one and
then the three of us were standing
expected to get in the elevator and go
up and the only people on the launchpad
at that time with the people up and what
we call the wiper at the top that we're
going to help strap the same suspicion
that was kind of answer is Israel to
stand on that large bandwidth nobody
else around is another one that I didn't
expect that we also have 44 that phase
of Apollo we have a
escape cage case there was a fire we had
to get off the launch pad for some
reason in a hurry as a certain phase of
the mission we would take this with one
out of the spacecraft to get out of the
spacecraft hold my hand on the
spacecraft rundown and our students to
this cage and the white room crew would
join us there and then we would go a
long slide wire-to-wire there's
something like that down and get into a
big honker and we tested that out all 78
some of the other guys but we did and it
was quite a sounds quite experienced and
well write that cage down without dr
quantity of the air
the tower on the right looks like a big
water tank is indeed a big water tank i
believe 400,000 gallons of water and
that is the water advantages that our
visitor just before any launch one
allele it was right is that goes into a
spray system for the launch tower as
well as a cooling system are always
suppression system actually in the in
the big diverters flavors it was it's
primarily for both purposes for cooling
of material but also for noise
suppression and it does a very effective
job even though it sounds awful island
launch
announcer reading
flattery
I see ya
this is a certified check everybody
else's that's what mrs. Lincoln village
oh you mean I Perry other the up on the
path the shell that's facing us that's a
that's a shell that goes over the middle
of the day of the show I was thinking of
this tank right here is that the solid
rock star next to the National well
that's a hyperbolic that's right
hypergolic tanks hypergolic fuels our
fuels usually hydrazine and nitrous
oxide that if you come if you put them
together they're going tonight we use
those for reaction control systems in
the am and rockets on the spacecraft and
the shuttle it was said it was used for
that and also to run the AP use of media
auxiliary power units on the show the
foul over here at least that's the
highest at the hydrogen tank the big
good my tank over there is for the court
hydrogen and then there's a liquid
oxygen tank holder
they actually
parts around on the other side
that's okay i'm looking to pass the Hat
be a stain the smaller circles for don't
be a lot
modified for watching for future
all ok well we ever seen
what
oh yeah see the stacks there they are
telling me that those are player stacks
for burn off the excess hydrogen has
benefited from the special i think we
children tonight
vocalizing
can't you see that they the arrow tanks
underneath the launchpad there will see
a little better
that's that's that's used to purge
various lines I guess particularly for
the night before feeling starts just to
try to make sure everything swinging on
everybody always right in front of us
here on the side those are cameras and I
guess those are entirely a scam from
and the outside the gate meeting about
media's allowed to Center popular
outside the fence either really
attention so they won't get down when I
was down here or for sts-135 atlantis
launched all of this area in here right
after the launch was brown just said
well now wait but it would be out ahead
of the yeah this is super awesome i
remember this one to which we have much
ready pets
yeah it's going to be all over but it's
also growing up fast
what's that somebody is
sing out your questions we've got a
bunch of expert not me but the train
tracks
are there I don't like this
no i think i don't i'm not sure is it
was originally they were bringing in the
hydrogen by bank card and oxygen tank
they just never taken out
I don't think they're years now
as we came out here you and I was
chatting away you probably goes the
gravel big gravel road on the side of
the road we were on will see that again
here in a minute that's that's a River
gravel wrote that for the transporter
crore that brings the the rocket and
spacecraft out to the launch man will
see that i think will go by the
transporter room for we did go buy one
and i was chatting away publishing look
now while they're 21 has been used on
kind i think it's over budget
like a space on the market
that we mark that we not have a spin
some one of our killers launches the
path to power of that launches so
powerful the knockout about 3,400 system
i thinkin loose and not down the
basement all fixed and the replaced with
the quantifier from that which is he
from concrete got that are repaired but
i'm going to go back in time
presidential race
it was Richard from the validation and
they change that all across that
powerful and
marky-mark eligible to be a real
difference and i'm sure you know she is
certain
fishing she is American we look we have
almost watch on almost good now this is
the opening the flexure right here in
trench fires you SAT there about diets a
proper suitor feet 30 miles per hour
probably just about 6,000 racing third
reason
446 a point there
about a hundred sixty-five dis well
they're not gonna kill you and you can
see right here to the north sea did the
whole face is normal this is north
and it looks a lot better than it did
because one time writing history right
here see to the right out all that kind
of over there from all the steam
villages that's best paint be over there
you see all those towers are modified
for the future what we want Apollo 10
over there and all the rest right here
now matter-of-fact about the walk on the
moon that was launched right here
include user that was on the server
setup wasn't it
1970s
somebody we very rarely made December 74
time everywhere else
Super Six we had a 2 are 40 minutes
delay and in those music were paying
attention to the atlantis launched you
notice they got to 31 seconds and there
was all we got to 30 seconds of the
manhole and it only took them a few
minutes to work out their problems into
cars about 2 hours and 40 minutes
actually only took about five minutes
for the crew watch crew to figure out
what was wrong we had a computer that
thought it is not pressurized oxygen
tank in the third stage rocket s4b and
it turns out that tank had been
pressurized by a controller in the
launch control center 18 when he saw
that the computer had not done it but
the computer did not know that is
pressurized because it was looking at
whether a signal has been sent to
pressurize it rather than whether it's
really pressure it's one of those little
things that somewhere in the deep dark
ages of programming was put in there and
you can't figure out why a world that
was done that way but that's what helped
us out and in those days you can fix a
problem like that just with a white if
you go into the computer and put a shot
around that signal and that's what they
did
and today you have to go in there
somehow to reprogram in which you
probably could do it for me
yes sir what does it feel like we're
sitting outside find anything so what
does it feel like resting on top of
centerfire cranks up the main that
before we get to that sinkhole that
question okay one thing you can see here
is the neck down to increase the
velocity right now the water going in to
that from the tower completely tanked
Smackdown get a higher flowing into the
blank trench
you know this this grass has freedom a
lot since sts-135 lunch already tell
that but it was it was completely
drought over here a couple weeks
water result of different status Mexico
backwater state around the rest of the
year different what brought always cold
hard skills
larger market here
your action is
Sarah
you know this this is the ps4 be and the
main engines with those little verse 3
SB i'm sorry the solid rocket boosters
and the nation's official languages
separation and these and the solid
rocket boosters just working for socks
they can take picture for you all that
was good
I
now you see those five going on out the
time you're 16 up seven subtasks the
outset of those of the those are scarce
funds they go to the channel will go by
in a minute we'll see how the shuttle
handle that escaped different than ours
what
a struggle to escape system is set up
with seven baskets for you can fit two
people in each basket we have a close up
to the straps that would strap through
in the shuttle so we have enough room
for all them that was only for a pattern
emerges that's not a flight aboard
that's only if we had like a fire some
of the pattern we had something happen
under toxins released we could screw can
escape down on that basket
second that travels up about 50 my 55
miles per hour
the baskets are situated the 195 foot
level which is where the correction
system so it did the math about 55 miles
per hour
landed on like Harrison said you'll see
over here the sand and the chains and
the bungee cords the net stop them
hi tech working system
the biggest difference up and follow the
Apollo pad was kind of a clean that
concept we didn't have the structures
under the fixed service structure
rotating service structure with all that
was on top of the mobile launch platform
for the Apollo center 5 program once
once we get the shot we decided to build
the structures out here like it is now
and in fact a fixed service structure
which is the tallest part i believe the
top two levels top two sections are the
old Apollo Saturn 5 gantry ok utilize
that for this fixer construction
one I don't want to
offer
the cables early
that's not good
you
that this is picture as you make sure
you later
it is a gene certain lifestyle i took it
was early in the second we checked out
the lower over and you can always tell
the commander's in a bottle picture they
insisted on having a red stripe on their
helmets and other sleeves so that's the
best way to ok but I took the picture
let that left knowing that diversity vai
had actually a black-and-white film in
the camera i used during mostly but in
the first CDA we created the camera back
before to get the DAO shots not we let's
make sure that we had everybody sees
this is the system blocks time now this
is the locks
oxygen
we cast and that's all the other side
that's actually the Mexican side
our
what you say the start level of this
description was 195 so our course three
the 29 assists tonight statement work
that's you see that's here and there's
some change that they're picked up so
that
there's a it will be evacuated and
offers from her
with a lot
down
Brock
everybody
you look way I just below the top of
tower there that's a lightning arrester
yeah you'll see a what looks like a
cone-shaped cap with a red line coming
off of it that's the cap would stay off
the
guess the external tank until just
before launch and and I believe that's
the that's it's an oxygen then but I
believe that's the arm that the computer
didn't know has attracted and delayed
the atlantis launched that the two or
three minutes and as I and I see if I
heard correctly during that period they
they just put a camera on and verify
that it is retracted and many they were
going to go
serveware also for the if you look to
your left you can also see the tracks
that must make the structure around the
river crack and you see the other cabin
s- trip every certain areas like and
that so it moves around and if they win
it back will launch about the 19 hours
before the launch to expose show for
liftoff hands and that yellow cab
appears with our sister to do that
number is 10 myself 350 burning real met
up at nighttime existing activities
oxide building
ok this rare working on
okay all this business this is part of
the operating system right here
that's what they use in the reaction
control system in space so they maneuver
there was detected on oxidized with them
to licking
the nation
there's six cameras on the bed there's
one right here also more cameras we step
around 12-13 cameras in each one of them
back in the old days but now with these
new digital camera that NASA's that
developed and maybe you set up the
digital cams so superior to the open to
invent it
anytime you want this mystery
good
right now we're going to cross over the
gravel road that and that the
transporter crawler used and then get up
to the launch pad and and when it hits
this change in slope that actually
begins to adjust so the rocket is always
kept level as a hydraulic adjustment so
the rocket state are safe vertical
movement of the state's vertical even
though it's going up that slope
they tried a large number of different
materials for that transport color
before they finally
testing realize that the River gravel
large corporate travel was best to
adjust to the weight of that transporter
crawler anybody here knows that we just
sing out i forgot Melvin energy across
millions six million pounds six million
pounds in each of the treads that you'll
see on the way out is about it and about
2,000
yes the same crawler was used for the
Saturn five I was dealt by am March
equipment construction for in the file i
believe and that but it was based on
what had been used technologically in
the I bring struggling offense
period Marion power
we're going to work
oh yeah
the i believe the Apollo Kate went
directly into the river for you
I think
tennessee
now work and it's probably rock that was
brought down from Canada population that
protecting Esther
you're right
well I i do not know the details of the
plans for the new for a new heavy-lift
launch vehicle
my guess is that the crawler was over
designed to begin with and probably can
handle it but why I just don't know and
that that program has unfortunately been
subject to run a few delays even though
it's been funded lot of Congress you
administration seems to be learning
those funds
the board of were not aware that were
the essential work it has to be done
eventually but not right now the main
design that rocket has to be done in
hospital and just and just because for
two maybe more in play the next election
don't think that's why the money is
coming
now you had a question early will have
wanted to feel like on top of the rocket
when the saturn now the shuttle gets off
the launch pad and her accelerate the
solid rocket boosters take it up there
very the Saturn rocket did not move
nearly spent 2 14 seconds for the base
of the rocket to call the night of the
over Tower and so it was very slow
acceleration but when the five f-1
engines that you'll see in San facility
the may ignite their very rough it's a
kerosene oxygen system and and they do a
wonderful job in a wonderful cop with a
very bright burning and so you had this
very heavy or frequency vibration that's
the first thing you feel that
date night is the vibration and then and
the rocket actually is is held for
almost night seconds while they come up
to thrust so the Rockets vibrating heart
that point and let's go on the vibration
continue and then you gradually start to
feel the increasing
keys and the first thing I thought of
when that vibration started is why did
we go through all the launch simulations
where the crew was sitting there looking
at their cages and their units all apply
it you're trying to see what kind of
problems the simulation supervisors from
the throw at you and then of course in
the real world you can't read the speech
not until you get off at first okay and
then we have another question that i
ignored for a minute
make sure we look at that the problem
you work to convert the person or the
navigate and out on the moon fucking way
to structure everything
well I i I'm i was deeply involved in
developing some of the techniques or
precision navigation on the mode and the
end of and Jim level and I work together
or Apollo 8 to test out those techniques
which were called landmark sighting
that was way in which you can use the
navigation sexton sooo which was really
a 16-hour telescope in the command
command module to site on features on
the lunar surface that through
various photographic techniques and
geometric techniques that then
position relative to the center of mass
of the moment which is important
feature for navigation around the moat
and if you can get a precise
measurement of your space crafts
position and movement relative to one of
those spots are several of those spots
then you can define your spacecraft
position and space relative to the
center massive up and that really was
one of the major ways in which we were
able to land with a few tens of meters
of what we planned align anytime we went
to the movies only Apollo 11 had
difficulty with that and all 11
difficulty was being because we had
really been able to to map out the
gravitational field associated with
waterfall mass concentrations mass
conference in the policy
ok
okay caller remote console
very well you can see fresh tracks so
much
just probably help
oh yeah
MLPs
mobile launch platform
you'll see the crawlers in front of the
what is hiding number to the VA be all
right now what we're doing is we're
doing some testing for future use song
they're checking to see what the weight
distribution are going over the
threshold of the Vehicle Assembly
Building
oh and also the thresholds of the roads
to see what the weight distribution is
so they cannot figure out just how much
weight they came out as utilize the
crawler transporter honors the more the
inter-island tracks right there so that
a lot of the lot of the hardware used
for shuttle is derived from the policy
center by program mobile launch platform
would show built the shuttle on top of
the shelves built the Saturn five on the
crawler transporter are both I'll see
there's an inv the Vehicle Assembly
Building let's see what else
that's about it but pretty much all of
that bargain ground support equipment
was used for shuttle and will be used
for some of the future programs to
install something
don't fix the tower let you see up kind
of forward and it will be to our lunches
will buy it that's what we call the new
ever held a new mobile launcher we're
going back to the old concept we use for
polymer the towers X and top of the
mobile launcher this is all brand new
hardware was built for the constellation
program hopefully we'll be able to use
it for some commercial ventures or
possibly some other vehicles that are
just developed by NASA but the concept
is to use the tower on top of the mobile
launcher so you have the rocket attached
to it with all the villages and all the
lifelines if you will then we can take
out what we call it clean bad concept to
the pad if you looked at pee-pee you'll
see there's no towers of there is a
clean pad set that will want to write on
top of the pan use it bring it back here
build another rock on
the shuttle run mobile docs my partner's
is just to the left between those two
buildings
39 million pounds tracker so
for an August twenty-fourth 1972 run
haven't seen sir and I rolled the
crawler out to the launch bed we need to
a long time I don't think we went all
the way we're going on along with and
and we were about right here watching
our vehicle come out and then we we
jumped on me get jumped on the mobile
that castles or 22 feet high and the
core is the process or 22 feet high the
caller can go underneath that jacket
subject that thing that you can extend
itself 26 behind issues about 29 normal
and it's about 24 clearance and listen
thanks to go down the holes in the pills
the whole place so it doesn't you're
gonna scoot up underneath see-through
underneath you can see the channels for
the various most nights
yes madam
how did I feel when I walked on the moon
I felt very privileged to my house that
was a lucky guy you happen to get to the
right place right time
normal but with the right skills and
able to be on that some of us have
called the tip of the spear that corner
50,000 other Americans were holding they
made it happen that we just happened to
be at the typical it was a horrible
experience i recommend it highly way
back there
concern walked on the moon at the he had
to because of the design of the hatch
I had to get in first put on the other
hand I was a 12-person too simple
so where you take your pick neil
armstrong was Versailles was school
k is it speaking of that as the Apollo
program was winding down
was there a lot of flying and
maneuvering to try to be to make sure
you are more than one of those wishes
there are a lot of the robotic
competition but then how does that
question and that out of the politics
that integrates right to question order
anything near the energy of all property
managers at anytime and anywhere from
there was a competition for the flight
at least during a ball slate was the
loss eventually flew it was one of the
original seven astronauts your mission
through on the apollo-soyuz mission he
had been sidelined because of a resume
heart murmur which nobody can ever find
but they kept him out of flight status
for a decade at least deep go get those
cards very close to his mess
everybody knew that they'd better
perform well they were not going to be
signed and don't get don't do something
to get you on Deeks
blacklist happened to a couple people
but it was mainly a competition of
professionals knowing they better do
things that whatever job they were
assigned to a better do well that was
there the best ticket they could have to
get on a flight now I was a bit of an
exception
I think I did all of that no time you
read this book and he agrees that I was
capable as any pilot to fly the lunar
module but
I had been assigned to the backup crew
model 15 the dick Gordon best brand who
are two other buses and about halfway
through the training we finally
everybody finally realize that the
mission we would have cycled to Apollo
18 was not gonna happen that have been
cancelled actually castle long before we
just a note and effectively canceled and
the and so that became a question of
whether we would the opposition to
replace certain history have been backup
crew on Apollo 14 and if we have
demonstrated that we were good enough
better than they should lower heat so we
work very hard i can competitively like
investing we were the best curve
there were other things going on at NASA
headquarters in one site and finally
excited finally set up his
recommendation for the apollo 17 crew
which was indeed to have certain habits
and angle flyer follow 70 headquarters
particularly towards all I think and
said no we need to put a scientist on
the moon and you figure out how to do it
and so he can get a charge take the
corkscrew and substituted for servants
re could put me in substitute for
England was that joy the latter choice
of you decide
and so that's how I ended up on the
apollo 17 mission
meanwhile of course I have become a jet
pilot the helicopter pilot everything
necessary and work essentially every
mission except apollo 16 and I was in
the middle of a model 17 training
regarding the 16 cycle so I didn't do a
lot with that other than i had to
organize the lunar science training
program for all the bottle crews and it
actually temp levels crew was the first
one to really participate in that
comprehensive
science training program which meant
that about it
one week out of every month these guys
were out in the field actually doing
exploration simulations but our real
geological problems and that was the
basis of that training for a number
yes you will
surprised and geology found
was I surprised by any job you have
continually surprised even though five
of their crews have been there and I had
spent a lot of time with them and with
the samples they brought the magnet for
observation
I guess we're headed into the saturn
pursued by the way over there was trees
is the shuttle roughly I don't know
probably not gonna get a chance to see
them
no I see a ditching the I can't I think
described but the biggest surprise was
that this is my discovery of the these
volcanic deposits that became known as
your soil george glass volcanic glass
that have continued to surprise everyone
they appear to come from very deep
within the moon they brought a variety
of volatile elements to the surface
which nobody has actually expected to
see based on the consensus ideas about
the argument
and just recently published there a few
weeks ago paper came out that shows that
there's water in that class significant
water and so nobody expected to see
water from the interior of the moment so
it has turned out to be probably the
critical sample and determining
ultimately determine the origin of book
based on samples we have today
now what we we go back as I think we
should or geopolitical reasons we can
also do a lot more science and then
they get more information particularly
those types of rock samples in the well
it became known as the orange soil
because that's what i call it because I
didn't know it was like this is very
very fine extremely fine just like
variable when you put it under a
microscope you find out through tiny
spheres collects it but but it was sighs
with something you could see with the
naked eye
just look like orange
they are we getting out here I think
we'll get a dresser before we get off
the bus
let's get a great big hand here's a
breaking point and really Kurt elected
general going to kind of get to line
here just gonna be somebody in a moment
to get off the bus and we're going to go
inside the building and go to a panel
operation inside here and so just
sailors for a few minutes to forget you
have questions you have a medical we can
leave the bag oh don't take everything
with you don't have anything on this bus
because i doing on the bus I'm in big
trouble
I don't you trouble anybody different
it's our wedding card just curious here
the pieces
well my issues curious about my PhD
thesis and dissertation Department it
had to do with some very rare unusual
rocks in Norway I was a full rights to
the hallway and then a couple years
later I went back and then fieldwork in
western already and these are these
rocks that form and very high pressure
and temperature within your fault
intelligence and in some places their
associated with diamonds so see how high
those pressures get to me
right
I can't hear about the only person
around it doesn't have TV coverage of
the favor and hit man they got the black
up now and you're gonna be the TV
picture they'll yes we are getting a
baby pictures with him out
one all
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