TENSIONS AND THE >>> THESE WERE ATTACKS BY THE
>>> THESE WERE ATTACKS BY THE ISLAM BEINGIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN W
ISLAM BEINGIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN W CLEAR INTENT TO DENY TRANSIT
CLEAR INTENT TO DENY TRANSIT THROUGH THE STRAIT.
THROUGH THE STRAIT. THERE IS DATA AND EVIDENCE.
THERE IS DATA AND EVIDENCE. THE WORLD WILL SEE MUCH OF IT.
THE WORLD WILL SEE MUCH OF IT. THE IRANIANS SHOULD UNDERSTAND
THE IRANIANS SHOULD UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO
VERY CLEARLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ACTIONS TO DETER IRAN FROM
TAKE ACTIONS TO DETER IRAN FROM ENGAGING IN THIS KIND OF
ENGAGING IN THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR.
BEHAVIOR. >> THAT WAS SECRETARY OF STATE
>> THAT WAS SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO ASSURING THERE IS
MIKE POMPEO ASSURING THERE IS ADDITIONAL PROOF LINKING IRAN TO
ADDITIONAL PROOF LINKING IRAN TO ATTACKS ON TWO OIL TANKERS IN
ATTACKS ON TWO OIL TANKERS IN THE GULF OF OMAN LAST WEEK.
THE GULF OF OMAN LAST WEEK. SOME U.S. ALLIES, INCLUDING
SOME U.S. ALLIES, INCLUDING JAPAN AND GERMANY, HAVE
JAPAN AND GERMANY, HAVE REQUESTED STRONGER EVIDENCE THAN
REQUESTED STRONGER EVIDENCE THAN THE VIDEO RELEASED BY THE
THE VIDEO RELEASED BY THE PENTAGON APPEARING TO SHOW AN
PENTAGON APPEARING TO SHOW AN IRANIAN PATROL BOAT REMOVING
IRANIAN PATROL BOAT REMOVING WHAT IS SAID TO BE AN UNEXPLODED
WHAT IS SAID TO BE AN UNEXPLODED MINE FROM ONE OF THE SHIPS.
MINE FROM ONE OF THE SHIPS. MEANWHILE, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
MEANWHILE, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT IRAN
REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT IRAN SAYS IT WILL BREAK THE URANIUM
SAYS IT WILL BREAK THE URANIUM STOCKPILE LIMIT SET BY THE WORLD
STOCKPILE LIMIT SET BY THE WORLD DEAL IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS.
DEAL IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS. A SPOKESMAN FOR THAT COUNTRY’S
A SPOKESMAN FOR THAT COUNTRY’S ATOMIC ENERGY SAID THEY HAVE A
ATOMIC ENERGY SAID THEY HAVE A NEED FOR ENRICHED URANIUM.
NEED FOR ENRICHED URANIUM. THE PRESIDENT PULLED US OUT OF
THE PRESIDENT PULLED US OUT OF THE DEAL LAST YEAR.
THE DEAL LAST YEAR. >> SO, BEN, A LOT TO TALK TO YOU
>> SO, BEN, A LOT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
ABOUT. WHAT’S THE IMPACT OF IRAN
WHAT’S THE IMPACT OF IRAN BREAKING THE URANIUM STOCKPILE
BREAKING THE URANIUM STOCKPILE LIMITS?
LIMITS? >> IT SHOWS THE EUROPEAN EFFORTS
>> IT SHOWS THE EUROPEAN EFFORTS OVER THE LAST YEAR SINCE TRUMP
OVER THE LAST YEAR SINCE TRUMP PULLED OUT TO KEEP IRAN IN THE
PULLED OUT TO KEEP IRAN IN THE DEAL ARE BEGINNING TO UNRAVEL IN
DEAL ARE BEGINNING TO UNRAVEL IN THE FACE OF TRUMP STACKING UP
THE FACE OF TRUMP STACKING UP SANCTIONS ON IRAN, DESIGNATING
SANCTIONS ON IRAN, DESIGNATING THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD AS A
THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THE EUROPEANS ARE TRYING TO COAX
THE EUROPEANS ARE TRYING TO COAX IRAN INTO STAYING IN THE DEAL I
IRAN INTO STAYING IN THE DEAL I THINK AT LEAST THROUGH THE U.S.
THINK AT LEAST THROUGH THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. THIS SHOWS YOU THE POLITICAL
THIS SHOWS YOU THE POLITICAL WINDS IN IRAN ARE SHIFTING --
WINDS IN IRAN ARE SHIFTING -- >> IS THIS BECAUSE THE ECONOMY
>> IS THIS BECAUSE THE ECONOMY CONTINUES TO GO DOWN BECAUSE THE
CONTINUES TO GO DOWN BECAUSE THE SANCTIONS ARE HAVING A BIG
SANCTIONS ARE HAVING A BIG IMPACT?
IMPACT? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THE PROMISED GOAL IN PRESIDENT
THE PROMISED GOAL IN PRESIDENT ROUHANI WAS TO RELIEF PRESSURE
ROUHANI WAS TO RELIEF PRESSURE ON THE ECONOMY.
ON THE ECONOMY. INSTEAD HE GOT AN EVEN WORSE
INSTEAD HE GOT AN EVEN WORSE ECONOMY BECAUSE OF THE SANCTIONS
ECONOMY BECAUSE OF THE SANCTIONS THAT TRUMP HAS STACKED UP SINCE
THAT TRUMP HAS STACKED UP SINCE THE DEAL.
THE DEAL. THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS WHAT WE
THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS WHAT WE ALWAYS SAID.
ALWAYS SAID. UP EITHER HAVE A NUCLEAR DEAL
UP EITHER HAVE A NUCLEAR DEAL LIKE THE ONE WE NEGOTIATED IN
LIKE THE ONE WE NEGOTIATED IN PLACE OR YOU’RE STUCK IN A
PLACE OR YOU’RE STUCK IN A POSITION WHERE IRAN IS
POSITION WHERE IRAN IS ESCALATING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM
ESCALATING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO USE MILITARY ACTION.
TO USE MILITARY ACTION. UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF HOW
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF HOW TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS, WE’RE
TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS, WE’RE DEALING WITH THE SITUATION
DEALING WITH THE SITUATION COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM OUR
COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM OUR CLOSEST ALLIES IN THE WORLD.
CLOSEST ALLIES IN THE WORLD. >> BECAUSE OF HOW TRUMP IS
>> BECAUSE OF HOW TRUMP IS HANDLING THIS BUT YOU LOOK AT
HANDLING THIS BUT YOU LOOK AT HOW THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN
HOW THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN BEHAVING AND ACTING ACROSS THE
BEHAVING AND ACTING ACROSS THE REGION, SOMETHING THAT THE
REGION, SOMETHING THAT THE PRESIDENT AND YOU BOTH SAID THIS
PRESIDENT AND YOU BOTH SAID THIS NUCLEAR DEAL IS COMPLETELY
NUCLEAR DEAL IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THEIR OTHER
SEPARATE FROM THEIR OTHER ACTIONS, BUT WHAT DOES IT
ACTIONS, BUT WHAT DOES IT BENEFIT IRAN TO CONTINUE TO STAY
BENEFIT IRAN TO CONTINUE TO STAY OUTSIDE THE REALM OF THE
OUTSIDE THE REALM OF THE RESPECTED WORLD COMMUNITY?
RESPECTED WORLD COMMUNITY? AT WHAT POINT DOES SOMEBODY
AT WHAT POINT DOES SOMEBODY INSIDE THAT COUNTRY SAY LET’S
INSIDE THAT COUNTRY SAY LET’S TRY ANOTHER WAY?
TRY ANOTHER WAY? LET’S WORK TO GET THESE
LET’S WORK TO GET THESE SANCTIONS LIFTED?
SANCTIONS LIFTED? >> THE PROBLEM, JOE, IS THAT
>> THE PROBLEM, JOE, IS THAT THEY TRIED THAT.
THEY TRIED THAT. SO ROUHANI AND THE FOREIGN
SO ROUHANI AND THE FOREIGN MINISTER, THEIR ARGUMENT WAS
MINISTER, THEIR ARGUMENT WAS LET’S TRY ANOTHER WAY, THIS
LET’S TRY ANOTHER WAY, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING.
PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING. TRUMP SAID THAT NOT ONLY WOULD
TRUMP SAID THAT NOT ONLY WOULD THE IRAN DEAL PUT US IN A
THE IRAN DEAL PUT US IN A STRONGER POSITION TO PRESSURE
STRONGER POSITION TO PRESSURE THEM ON THE NUCLEAR DEAL, HE
THEM ON THE NUCLEAR DEAL, HE SAID IT WOULD CHANGE THEIR
SAID IT WOULD CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR IN THE REGION.
BEHAVIOR IN THE REGION. WE’VE SEEN THE OPPOSITE.
WE’VE SEEN THE OPPOSITE. THEY’VE CONTINUED OR EVEN
THEY’VE CONTINUED OR EVEN ESCALATED THEIR ACTIONS IN THE
ESCALATED THEIR ACTIONS IN THE REASONABLE AND.
REASONABLE AND. YOU HAVE A BINARY CHOICE.
YOU HAVE A BINARY CHOICE. DO YOU TRY TO NEGOTIATE A
DO YOU TRY TO NEGOTIATE A DIPLOMATIC AGREEMENT WITH IRAN
DIPLOMATIC AGREEMENT WITH IRAN OR DO YOU GO DOWN THE PAT OF
OR DO YOU GO DOWN THE PAT OF ESCALATION THAT RISKS A VERY
ESCALATION THAT RISKS A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAR?
SIGNIFICANT WAR? >> LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT
>> LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT QUESTION.
QUESTION. YES, THEY AGREED TO THE NUCLEAR
YES, THEY AGREED TO THE NUCLEAR DEAL.
DEAL. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY WERE
AT THE SAME TIME, THEY WERE STILL CAUSING TROUBLE THROUGHOUT
STILL CAUSING TROUBLE THROUGHOUT THE REGION, WHICH LEADS TO THE
THE REGION, WHICH LEADS TO THE BIGGER QUESTION, WHICH I ALWAYS
BIGGER QUESTION, WHICH I ALWAYS LOVE ASKING BECAUSE NOBODY SEEMS
LOVE ASKING BECAUSE NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE THE ANSWER.
TO HAVE THE ANSWER. MAYBE YOU DO.
MAYBE YOU DO. WHO IS IN CHARGE OF IRAN?
WHO IS IN CHARGE OF IRAN? >> THE SUPREME LEADER IS IN
>> THE SUPREME LEADER IS IN CHARGE OF IRAN.
CHARGE OF IRAN. THE MISMANAGEMENT THAT A GUY
THE MISMANAGEMENT THAT A GUY LIKE ROUHANI CAME INTO THE
LIKE ROUHANI CAME INTO THE PRESIDENCY AND WAS EMPOWERED TO
PRESIDENCY AND WAS EMPOWERED TO NEGOTIATE THIS DEAL.
NEGOTIATE THIS DEAL. FOR YEARS WE NEGOTIATE WITH
FOR YEARS WE NEGOTIATE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, ALL THE MAJOR
OTHER COUNTRIES, ALL THE MAJOR POWERS IN THE WORLD THE LIMITS
POWERS IN THE WORLD THE LIMITS ON THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
ON THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM. IF IRAN COMES IN WITH A NEW
IF IRAN COMES IN WITH A NEW PRESIDENT AND DECIDE TO BREAK
PRESIDENT AND DECIDE TO BREAK THAT, THEY SAY SEE, WE WERE
THAT, THEY SAY SEE, WE WERE WRONG TO TRUST DIPLOMACY AND
WRONG TO TRUST DIPLOMACY AND LEAVES ALLIES FUMING THAT WE
LEAVES ALLIES FUMING THAT WE HAVE PRECIPITATED A CRISIS THAT
HAVE PRECIPITATED A CRISIS THAT THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL WAS
THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL WAS SUPPOSED TO AVOID.
SUPPOSED TO AVOID. >> THERE’S A BIZARRE CHECKS AND
>> THERE’S A BIZARRE CHECKS AND BALANCES SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE
BALANCES SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE ROUHANI, YOU HAVE THE SUPREME
ROUHANI, YOU HAVE THE SUPREME LEADER AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
LEADER AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD WHO
REVOLUTIONARY GUARD WHO SOMETIMES SEEM TO BE INDEPENDENT
SOMETIMES SEEM TO BE INDEPENDENT PLAYERS THEMSELVES.
PLAYERS THEMSELVES. >> YES.
>> YES. WHAT WE SAW WE HAVE THE
WHAT WE SAW WE HAVE THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD OVER HERE
REVOLUTIONARY GUARD OVER HERE AND ROUHANI OVER HERE TRYING TO
AND ROUHANI OVER HERE TRYING TO PURSUE A PATH OF ENGAGEMENT WITH
PURSUE A PATH OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE WEST.
THE WEST. EVERYTHING THAT TRUMP HAS DONE
EVERYTHING THAT TRUMP HAS DONE HAS CONTRADICTED HIS AIMS
HAS CONTRADICTED HIS AIMS BECAUSE IT’S EMPOWERED THE WORST
BECAUSE IT’S EMPOWERED THE WORST PEOPLE IN IRAN WHO ARE QUITE
PEOPLE IN IRAN WHO ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE BEING IN AN
COMFORTABLE BEING IN AN ADVERSARIAL POSITION WITH THE
ADVERSARIAL POSITION WITH THE UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. THAT’S WHERE THEY’VE BEEN FOR
THAT’S WHERE THEY’VE BEEN FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
THE LAST 30 YEARS. UNFORTUNATELY AGAIN IT LEAVES US
UNFORTUNATELY AGAIN IT LEAVES US WOULD EVEN WORSE OPTIONS THAN WE
WOULD EVEN WORSE OPTIONS THAN WE HAD BEFORE.
HAD BEFORE. >> SO SECRETARY POMPEO AND THE
>> SO SECRETARY POMPEO AND THE TRUMP SAYING IRAN IS BEHIND THE
TRUMP SAYING IRAN IS BEHIND THE ATTACKS ON THE U.S. TANKERS.
ATTACKS ON THE U.S. TANKERS. U.S. ALLIES ARE SAYING THEY NEED
U.S. ALLIES ARE SAYING THEY NEED MORE EVIDENCE.
MORE EVIDENCE. >> NOBODY SHOULD BE SURPRISED
>> NOBODY SHOULD BE SURPRISED WHERE WE ARE.
WHERE WE ARE. WHEN WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION
WHEN WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION WITH THIS DEGREE OF A
WITH THIS DEGREE OF A CREDIBILITY GAP, ALLIES ARE NOT
CREDIBILITY GAP, ALLIES ARE NOT GOING TO TRUST YOU.
GOING TO TRUST YOU. THE REALITY IS WHEN TRUMP PULLED
THE REALITY IS WHEN TRUMP PULLED OUT OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR
OUT OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR AGREEMENT, HE LIED ABOUT IT.
AGREEMENT, HE LIED ABOUT IT. HE SAID IRAN WASN’T COMPLYING.
HE SAID IRAN WASN’T COMPLYING. THAT WAS HIS RATIONALE FOR
THAT WAS HIS RATIONALE FOR MONTHS.
MONTHS. HE REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE DEAL
HE REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE DEAL EVEN THOUGH IRAN WAS COMPLYING.
EVEN THOUGH IRAN WAS COMPLYING. SO HE HAS A CREDIBILITY GAP.
SO HE HAS A CREDIBILITY GAP. IF YOU WANT TO PIN THE BLAME ON
IF YOU WANT TO PIN THE BLAME ON IRAN, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
IRAN, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO EXTRA DUE DILIGENCE AND HAVE
EXTRA DUE DILIGENCE AND HAVE SOME KIND OF INTERNATIONAL
SOME KIND OF INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. IT MEANS WE’RE ISOLATED IN
IT MEANS WE’RE ISOLATED IN TRYING TO PIN THE BLAME ON THE
TRYING TO PIN THE BLAME ON THE IRANIANS.
IRANIANS. >> YAMICHE.
>> YAMICHE. >> THE PRESIDENT SAID BECAUSE HE
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID BECAUSE HE PULLED OUT OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR
PULLED OUT OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL, IT IS EFFECTIVELY DONE.
DEAL, IT IS EFFECTIVELY DONE. IS THE PRESIDENT RIGHT?
IS THE PRESIDENT RIGHT? >> HE’S RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT
>> HE’S RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT THE UNITED STATES IS NOT LIVING
THE UNITED STATES IS NOT LIVING UP TO OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE
UP TO OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE DEAL.
DEAL. WE ARE NOT PROVIDING THE
WE ARE NOT PROVIDING THE SANCTIONS RELIEF THE IRANIANS
SANCTIONS RELIEF THE IRANIANS WERE SUPPOSED TO GET.
WERE SUPPOSED TO GET. THE IRANIANS HAVE DONE
THE IRANIANS HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO
EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IN TERMS OF ROLLING BACK
DO IN TERMS OF ROLLING BACK THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAMS,
THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAMS, SUBMITTING TO INSPECTIONS,
SUBMITTING TO INSPECTIONS, SHIPPING OUT 98% OF THEIR
SHIPPING OUT 98% OF THEIR STOCKPILE.
STOCKPILE. NOW WHAT THE IRANIANS ARE DOING
NOW WHAT THE IRANIANS ARE DOING AFTER A YEAR OF EUROPEANS SAYING
AFTER A YEAR OF EUROPEANS SAYING WITH WORK WITH US, STAY IN THE
WITH WORK WITH US, STAY IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THIS AGREEMENT,
FRAMEWORK OF THIS AGREEMENT, IT’S STILL TECHNICALLY ON THE
IT’S STILL TECHNICALLY ON THE BOOKS, RIGHT, IT STILL EXISTS AS
BOOKS, RIGHT, IT STILL EXISTS AS SOMETHING THAT WAS NEGOTIATED
SOMETHING THAT WAS NEGOTIATED AMONG THE SIX MAJOR WORLD POWERS
AMONG THE SIX MAJOR WORLD POWERS AND THE IRANIANS AND THE IRAN
AND THE IRANIANS AND THE IRAN IAN
IAN IANS HAVE APPARENTLY REACHED THE
IANS HAVE APPARENTLY REACHED THE LIMIT OF THEIR FRUSTRATIONS.
LIMIT OF THEIR FRUSTRATIONS. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THEY’RE
WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THEY’RE NOT JUST TEARING UP THE DEAL,
NOT JUST TEARING UP THE DEAL, NOT KICKING OUT ALL THE
NOT KICKING OUT ALL THE INSPECTORS, NOT RESTARTING ALL
INSPECTORS, NOT RESTARTING ALL OF THEIR CENTRIFUGES.
OF THEIR CENTRIFUGES. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO RESPOND TO WHAT TRUMP HAS BEEN
RESPOND TO WHAT TRUMP HAS BEEN DOING FOR YEAR SO WE’LL START BY
DOING FOR YEAR SO WE’LL START BY TESTING THE LIMITS ON THIS
TESTING THE LIMITS ON THIS ENRICHED URANIUM.
ENRICHED URANIUM. I THINK IT’S A VERY DANGEROUS
I THINK IT’S A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE TO BE AND ESCALATION IN
PLACE TO BE AND ESCALATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST CAN LEAD VERY
THE MIDDLE EAST CAN LEAD VERY QUICKLY TO SHOOTING.
QUICKLY TO SHOOTING. >> PUT US IN THE WHITE HOUSE, IN
>> PUT US IN THE WHITE HOUSE, IN THE MINDS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP,
THE MINDS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, POMPEO AND BOLTON, WHAT IS
POMPEO AND BOLTON, WHAT IS THEIRnd GAME?
THEIRnd GAME? WHAT DO THEY THINK IS GOING TO
WHAT DO THEY THINK IS GOING TO BE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLICIES
BE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLICIES THEY ARE PURSUING WITH IRAN?
THEY ARE PURSUING WITH IRAN? >> THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
>> THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS,
QUESTION BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS, RIGHT?
RIGHT? BECAUSE BOLTON AND POMPEO, IF
BECAUSE BOLTON AND POMPEO, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR HISTORY OF THE
YOU LOOK AT THEIR HISTORY OF THE THINGS THEY SAID BEFORE THEY
THINGS THEY SAID BEFORE THEY WERE IN OFFICE, IT SUGGESTS THEY
WERE IN OFFICE, IT SUGGESTS THEY WANT A MILITARY CONFLICT WITH
WANT A MILITARY CONFLICT WITH IRAN, A REGIME CHANGE WITH IRAN
IRAN, A REGIME CHANGE WITH IRAN AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN VERY BALLISTIC IN HIS RHETORIC
VERY BALLISTIC IN HIS RHETORIC WITH IRAN BUT SAYS HE DOESN’T
WITH IRAN BUT SAYS HE DOESN’T WANT A WAR.
WANT A WAR. WE’VE HAD NO SECOND.
WE’VE HAD NO SECOND. BY ALL REPORTS, JIM MATTIS, WHO
BY ALL REPORTS, JIM MATTIS, WHO WAS NO SOFTY ON IRAN, HE WAS
WAS NO SOFTY ON IRAN, HE WAS BLOCKING SOME OF THESE MORE
BLOCKING SOME OF THESE MORE BELLIGERENT MOVES.
BELLIGERENT MOVES. EVER SINCE THAT SECRETARY OF
EVER SINCE THAT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CHAIR WAS VACATED,
DEFENSE CHAIR WAS VACATED, YOU’VE SEEN THIS RACHETHING UP
YOU’VE SEEN THIS RACHETHING UP OF TNGSS.
OF TNGSS. IT SEEMS THEY DON’T WANT
IT SEEMS THEY DON’T WANT SOMEBODY IN THE CHAIR WHO IS
SOMEBODY IN THE CHAIR WHO IS GOING TO PUSH BACK.
GOING TO PUSH BACK. IN THE SITUATION ROOM, THE MAIN
IN THE SITUATION ROOM, THE MAIN STORY IS YOU DON’T HAVE A A
STORY IS YOU DON’T HAVE A A SECOND AND HAVEN’T HAD ONE FOR
SECOND AND HAVEN’T HAD ONE FOR SIX MONTHS.
SIX MONTHS. THAT’S UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR
THAT’S UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR HISTORY AND DOESN’T GET A LOT OF
HISTORY AND DOESN’T GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.
ATTENTION. THAT’S ALLOWING BOLTON AND
THAT’S ALLOWING BOLTON AND POMPEO TO TAKE OVER AND COMELY
POMPEO TO TAKE OVER AND COMELY DRIVE THIS POLICY AND I’M I’M AA
DRIVE THIS POLICY AND I’M I’M AA THAT COULD LEAD TO A REAL WAR.
THAT COULD LEAD TO A REAL WAR. >> SOME FASCINATING DEVELOPMENTS
>> SOME FASCINATING DEVELOPMENTS IN HONG KONG.
IN HONG KONG. WE WEREN’T SURE HOW CHINA OR
WE WEREN’T SURE HOW CHINA OR BEIJING WOULD ERESPOND BUTRESPON
BEIJING WOULD ERESPOND BUTRESPON AFTER APOLOGIES, PROTESTERS
AFTER APOLOGIES, PROTESTERS STILL SPILLING OUT INTO THE
STILL SPILLING OUT INTO THE STREETS.
STREETS. WHAT’S HAPPENING?
WHAT’S HAPPENING? >> I THINK THIS IS INSPIRING AND
>> I THINK THIS IS INSPIRING AND IS GOOD NEWS.
IS GOOD NEWS. WE’VE SEEN THE CHINESE TRY TO
WE’VE SEEN THE CHINESE TRY TO ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE DE
ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE DE FACTO ECONOMY IN HONG KONG,
FACTO ECONOMY IN HONG KONG, ELIMINATE CIVIL LIBERTIES IN
ELIMINATE CIVIL LIBERTIES IN HONG KONG.
HONG KONG. IF I’M SITTING IN HONG KONG WITH
IF I’M SITTING IN HONG KONG WITH RELATIVE FREEDOM, I’M THINKING
RELATIVE FREEDOM, I’M THINKING THE CHINESE COULD SEE MY E-MAIL
THE CHINESE COULD SEE MY E-MAIL AND I COULD END UP IN A CHINESE
AND I COULD END UP IN A CHINESE PRISON.
PRISON. FOR ALL OF HOUSE CARE ABOUT THE
FOR ALL OF HOUSE CARE ABOUT THE CONTEST BETWEEN AUTHORITARIANISM
CONTEST BETWEEN AUTHORITARIANISM AND DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD, WE
AND DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD, WE LEARNED HUMAN BEINGS WOULD
LEARNED HUMAN BEINGS WOULD RATHER BE FREE, RATHER NOT HAVE
RATHER BE FREE, RATHER NOT HAVE A BOOT ON THEIR THROAT.
A BOOT ON THEIR THROAT. WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THEM.
WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THEM. I DON’T HEAR THAT FROM PRESIDENT
I DON’T HEAR THAT FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT I HOPE THAT WE WILL.
TRUMP BUT I HOPE THAT WE WILL. >> IT’S A GREAT MOMENT.
>> IT’S A GREAT MOMENT. >> BEN RHODES, THANK YOU VERY
>> BEN RHODES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MUCH. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.
SHOW. STILL AHEAD, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
STILL AHEAD, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN FOCUSING HIS RECENT REMARKS
BEEN FOCUSING HIS RECENT REMARKS ON JOE BIDEN BUT SENATOR
ON JOE BIDEN BUT SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN MADE HER NAME
ELIZABETH WARREN MADE HER NAME ATTACKING WALL STREET BUT CAN
ATTACKING WALL STREET BUT CAN HER ECONOMIC PLANS SET HER APART
HER ECONOMIC PLANS SET HER APART IN A CROWDED DEMOCRATIC FIELD?
