STORIES HONORING OUR OFFICERS,
OR IN ONE CASE, OFFICERS
HONORING SOMEONE WHO DEEPLY
DESERVES IT.
YOU WILL LOVE THOSE TWO STORIES
TO WRAP UP THIS EDITION OF THE
MEANS REPORT BUT AS PROMISED,
WE WILL TALK POLITICS AND DO
WITH HER FRIEND, DR. CRAIG
ALBERT, POLITICAL SCIENTIST AT
AUGUSTA UNIVERSITY.
DR. ALBERT, THANK YOU FOR BEING
BACK SO SOON.
OF COURSE.
MY PLEASURE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA A
MONTH AGO WHEN WE HAD YOU ON
THE SHOW THINGS WOULD CHANGE AS
MUCH AS THEY HAD AT LEAST ON
THE NEWS FRONT, LIKE THEY HAVE.
BUT A LOT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN
THE LAST MONTH FOR CLINTON AND
FOR TRUMP.
DOES ANY OF IT SURPRISE YOU OR
DO YOU THINK IT WAS A QUIET
OCTOBER?
I WAS EXPECTED WE WOULD HAVE
AN OCTOBER SURPRISE, ESPECIALLY
WITH THE WAYS THE ELECTION
CYCLE HAS TURNED OUT.
YOU COULD PREDICT THIS WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT WAS GOING
TO HAPPEN, BUT WITH THE E-MAIL
SCANDAL, INCREASING AND
INTENSIFYING, I GUESS IT IS
SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE
PREDICTED A LITTLE BIT BETTER
THAT WE GET IT -- WIKILEAKS
WOULD RELEASE MORE E-MAILS AND
THEY DID.
THE TRUMP SCANDAL, ABSOLUTELY
NO WAY TO PREDICT THAT.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WARY OF
HIS ATTITUDE AND INDISCRETIONS
IN THE PAST, PERHAPS SOME
PEOPLE CLOSE TO HIM MIGHT HAVE
KNOWN SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD
HAVE BEEN RELEASED BUT NOT TO
THE EXTENT THAT IT WAS.
DO YOU GET THE SENSE THAT
THIS E-MAIL THING, THAT IS THE
SLOW, STEADY LEAK OF E-MAILS,
COULD HURT HILLARY CLINTON,
COULD BE AN ELECTION DAY GAME
CHANGER? OR IS THE MEDIA MAKING
IT BIGGER THAN IT IS?
I THINK THE MEDIA IS GIVEN A
NEW ATTENTION.
OFTEN WE HEAR PEOPLE FOR NOT
TELLING ME STORIES THIS IS AN
APPROPRIATE STORY TO PAY
ATTENTION TO MUCH AS THE TRUMP
SCANDAL IS APPROPRIATE TO PAY
ATTENTION TO.
I THINK IT WILL GET MORE
TROUBLING FOR THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN.
I THINK WIKILEAKS HAS HINTED,
PEOPLE CLOSE TO THEM HAVE
HINTED THAT THEY HAVE THE
33,000 DELETED E-MAILS
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR,
WHAT ARE IN THESE E-MAILS, WHY
ARE THEY DELETED, WHY WOULD YOU
DELETE SOMETHING AFTER YOU HAVE
BEEN SUBPOENAED TO PROVIDE THAT
WE MIGHT GET IT.
AND WE WILL EITHER GET IT
FRIDAY OR MONDAY.
SO THIS BROADCAST WILL AIR
ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY SO YOU
WILL KNOW IF THE FRIDAY
POTENTIAL PREDICTION CAME TRUE,
IF MONDAY, IS A FRIDAY OR
MONDAY TOO LATE?
DR. ALBERT?
I DON'T THINK SO FOR TWO
GROUPS WE ARE PAYING CLOSE
ATTENTION TO.
FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW WE
HAVE HAD A ONE IN FIVE RATIO OF
PEOPLE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS
THAT SAY THEY ARE NOT SURE IF
THEY ARE COMING OUT TO VOTE FOR
DONALD TRUMP, NOT SURE IF THEY
ARE COMING OUT TO VOTE AT ALL.
20% POTENTIALLY OF REGISTERED
REPUBLICANS WHO SAY THEY ARE
GOING TO SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO THIS
ELECTION CYCLE.
THAT IS TERRIBLE.
REPUBLICANS HAVE TRADITIONALLY
HAD LOWER RATES OF GETTING OUT
THE VOTE AND HAVE DEMOCRATS.
IF YOU TAKE THAT 20% OUT ON TOP
OF THEM HAVING LOWER TURNOUT
RATES, THAT GIVES IT OVER TO
CLINTON.
WHAT THE E-MAIL SCANDAL DOES
ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE HESITANT TO
VOTE FOR TRUMP ARE GOING TO SAY
THIS IS TERRIBLE, I CAN'T VOTE
FOR SOMEBODY WHO DELETED THESE
E-MAILS, WHATEVER IS AND IS
BOUND TO BE SOME TYPE OF
CONTROVERSY, SOMETHING THAT HAS
THE HINT OF IMMORALITY OR
SOMETHING AND DISTINGUISHING
FOR A POP -- FOR A POLITICIAN
TO HAVE WHY WOULD SHE DELETE
THEM OTHERWISE?
EVEN IF IT IS LITTLE, PEOPLE
ARE SUSPECTING.
THAT LITTLE BIT MIGHT BE ENOUGH
TO SAY I CAN'T STAY AT HOME, I
HAVE TO SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN
AS A VOTE AGAINST CLINTON.
NOT THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT
TRUMP, BUT AS A VOTE AGAINST
CLINTON.
IT HAPPENS THE DAY BEFORE, THAT
IS THE BEST SCENARIO FOR TRUMP
BECAUSE IT WILL BE FRESH IN
PEOPLES MINDS, THE LAST THING
ANYBODY HEARS BEFORE THEY GO TO
THE POLLS.
AND HER SIDE OR PEOPLE WHO
SUPPORT HER SIDE DO ANYTHING TO
BUMP HER FROM THE NEGATIVE
HEADLINES AT THIS POINT?
I DON'T THINK SO.
INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS COULD
HELP HER OUT, SOMETHING GREAT OR
CATASTROPHIC FOR THE BATTLE OF
MOSUL IN IRAQ COULD HAPPEN.
SHE OF COURSE COULD HELP CLAIM
CREDIT FROM THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION THAT SHE HAD
PART IN ALL OF THIS, SHE OF
COURSE RIDES THE TIDE OF
KILLING OSAMA BIN LADEN SO THIS
CAN KIND OF SOLIDIFY HER
INTERNATIONAL CREDENTIALS.
THE RUSSIAN RELATION IN SYRIA
ANYTHING ON INTERNATIONAL
STATES COULD HELP HER.
SHE IS ACTUALLY QUITE HAWKISH
FOR A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.
FOR THOSE INDEPENDENCE OR SOME
CONSERVATIVES THAT DON'T WANT
TO SUPPORT TRUMP THAT COULD
HELP TURN THEM TOWARDS CLINTON
BECAUSE OF HOW AGGRESSIVE SHE
IS IN POOR POLICY.
BUT SHE NEEDS TO DO A
QUICKLY.
ABSOLUTELY.
THE CLINTON MACHINE IS ONE OF
THE GREAT POLITICAL MACHINES
WE'VE EVER KNOWN IN THE MODERN
ERA.
ANYTHING LIKELY TO HAPPEN FROM
WIKILEAKS OR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
YOU CAN COUNT THE CLINTON'S
HAVE A RESPONSE ALREADY
CREATED.
THAT IS MY NEXT QUESTION IS
THAT MACHINE, SINCE IT IS SO
GOOD AND SO ON THE PRESENTS,
EVERY STATE, EVERY PRECINCT JUST
ABOUT, HAS A CLINTON PRESENCE
IN IT.
AND THAT MACHINE UNDO A LOT OF
THIS NEGATIVITY?
IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE SO BLOWN
AWAY BY THE HEADLINES MAYBE WE
ARE DIGGING DEEPLY ENOUGH TO SAY
AFTER THE SMOKE CLEARS SHE HAS
BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO EASILY
TAKE THIS THING. AND THAT STILL
HAPPEN?
NOT IF THE SCANDAL ERUPTS
BETWEEN FRIDAY AND MONDAY.
GOT IT.
THE MACHINE IS NOT THAT BIG
OR TIGHT ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE
SCANDAL OF THE 33,000 DELETED E-
MAILS.
THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WE
HAVE SEEN CLINTON AHEAD IN THE
POLLS THIS ENTIRE TIME VERSUS
TRUMP, SLOWLY RISING.
HE IS VERY NEW TO THE GAME AND
HE DID NOT WANT THAT KIND OF
GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION THAT
THE CLINTONS UNDERSTAND.
HE KIND OF SEES THAT AS PART OF
THE ESTABLISHMENT PROBLEM. HE
IS TRYING TO RIGHT HIGH AT THAT
ESTABLISHMENT IDEAL AND CLINTON
COURSES THE PICTURE OF THE
ESTABLISHMENT A SHEEN.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO PAY
ATTENTION TO. HOW TRUMP GETS
OUT THE VOTE COMING OFF ANY
TYPE OF SCANDAL AND HOW CLINTON
DOES THAT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT SEE
DEMOCRATS WORKING THE SAME
CONDITIONS, THE SCENARIO THAT A
LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE IN.
THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR
CLINTON.
TO BE HONEST FOR BOTH PARTIES
NEITHER CANDIDATE IS THE PERSON
THEY WANT THE MOST TO RUN RIGHT
NOW.
IT IS JUST WHO WE HAVE GOTTEN
IN OUR CANDIDATES.
ANYTHING ON THE CLINTON E-MAIL
SCANDAL, EVEN IF OF MIGHT NOT
PROMPT PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP
THEY COULD SEND WARY DEMOCRATS
HOME THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE
BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD ENOUGH OF IT
IT.
WHAT DOES WIKILEAKS AND
JULIAN ASSANGE, WHO RUNS
WIKILEAKS, WHAT DOES HE OR THEY
HAVE TO GAIN THROUGH THESE
LEAKS AND THIS CONSTANT
DRIBBLE.
WHAT DOES HE GET?
THAT IS A QUESTION.
I THINK HE IS A SUPPORTER OF
TRANSPARENCY MORE THAN ANYTHING
ELSE.
AND I THINK HE SEES HIMSELF,
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I SUPPORT
OR AGREE WITH THIS, BUT HE
CERTAINLY SEES HIMSELF IN SOME
KIND OF MESSIANIC WAY OF
HOLDING PEOPLE TO ACCOUNT.
IN A DEMOCRACY, I BELIEVE HE IS
A BIG SUPPORTER OF PURE
DEMOCRACY, ALMOST MAY BE THE
FRINGE OF ANARCHISM
POLITICALLY, PHILOSOPHICALLY
SPEAKING, THAT THE WILL OF THE
PEOPLE MUST BE FOLLOWED AT ALL
TIMES, 100%.
AND PART OF MAKING SURE THAT
HAPPENS IS THROUGH TRANSPARENCY
AND ALL THE CONDITIONS AGAINST
CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT.
SO HE BELIEVES SOMEBODY IS
CORRUPT OR NOT TRANSPARENT
ENOUGH, IT IS THE MESSAGE OF
DEMOCRACY THAT IS HIS JOB TO
GET OUT, TO MAKE ALL THAT
RELEVANT INFORMATION PUBLIC SO
PEOPLE CAN HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION, A LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND
KNOW FOR WHOM WE ARE GOING TO
VOTE WITHOUT ANYTHING LEFT IN
THE CLOSET FOR US TO FIND OUT
LATER.
Reporter: DOES HE PRESUMABLY
NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO RELEASE ON
TRUMP BECAUSE TRUMP HASN'T BEEN
A GOVERNMENT?
RIGHT.
WE KNOW TRUMP HASN'T DELETED E-
MAILS IN LITIGATION SINCE HE
HAS BEEN FACING.
NOT SURE IF HE WOULD GO AFTER
THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION OF HIM
BEING A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL FOR
THAT TIME.
HE MIGHT RELEASE SOMETHING
THERE.
WE KNOW DOING A STAUNCH IS IN
SUPPORTING TRUMP HE'S JUST
RELEASING INFORMATION MORE AS A
RADICAL KIND OF IN THE VEIN OF
THE 60s RADICAL MOVEMENTS ACROSS
AMERICA THAT HE IS IN THIS TYPE
OF MINDSET THAT HE JUST WANTS
TO DISRUPT THINGS.
NOT FOR THE SAKE OF CHAOS BUT
IN HIS MIND FOR THE SAKE OF
BETTER GOVERNANCE, BETTER
DEMOCRACY.
WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL
TALK ABOUT THE RUSSIA FACTOR IN
HOW IT MAY OR MAY NOT PLAY IN
THE SELECTION AND IN OUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA TOUGH
NO MATTER WHO WINDS THE WHITE
HOUSE.
ALSO HOW ABOUT MILLENNIALS?
CAN SOME COME OUT AND CHANGE
