>> Ian: WELL, ON THIS STORMY 
NIGHT, WE'RE IN QUÉBEC CITY AS 
CANADA OFFICIALLY WELCOMES THE 
G7 LEADERS.
THEY MADE NICE FOR THE CAMERAS, 
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MOOD BEHIND 
THE PICTURE POSTCARD SCENE?
AND WE TAKE OUR COVERAGE STREET 
LEVEL WHERE PROTESTERS TRY TO 
MAKE THEIR CASE.
MEASURING SUCCESS INSIDE THE 
SECURE ZONE AND OUT.
>> Rosemary: ALSO TONIGHT, AS 
THE DOUG FORD ERA BEGINS IN 
ONTARIO, AT ISSUE IS HERE 
TONIGHT.
>> PLUS, THE LIFE AND DEATH OF 
AN AMERICAN CULTURAL PHENOMENON.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN USED HIS LOVE 
OF FOOD AND STORY TELLING TO 
MAKE CONNECTIONS IN A DIVERSE 
WORLD.
WHY HE MEANT SO MUCH TO SO MANY,
TONIGHT, THIS IS "THE NATIONAL".
[ * ]
>> Ian: WE ARE IN THE QUÉBEC 
CAPITAL AGAIN TONIGHT, WHERE AS 
YOU CAN TELL, IT'S SUDDENLY 
GOTTEN VERY WINDY.
WHILE THE G7 LEADERS ARE MEETING
150 KILOMETRES AWAY IN THE LA 
MALBAIE RESORT AREA, THERE HAS 
BEEN A FLURRY OF ACTIVITY HERE, 
FROM GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, MEDIA
FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND 
OCCASIONALLY CONFRONTATION 
BETWEEN POLICE AND PROTESTERS.
THEY WANTED THIS TO BE A DAY OF 
DISRUPTION, BUT THE HUNDREDS OF 
ANTI-G7 DEMONSTRATORS WHO TURNED
OUT TODAY, WERE OUTNUMBERED BY 
POLICE.
WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT, BUT 
FIRST TO THE SUMMIT.
ON DAY ONE OF THE MEETING, ALL 
EYES WERE ON DONALD TRUMP.
ALREADY THE ODD MAN OUT IN THE 
GROUP.
HE WENT AND PICKED A NEW FIGHT 
EVEN BEFORE HE ARRIVED.
BUT BY THIS EVENING, TRUMP SURE 
SEEMED TO MAKING NICE.
>> OBVIOUSLY TRADE HAS BEEN A 
TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AND WILL 
CONTINUE TO BE.
>> Reporter: AFTER A WEEK OF 
TWEETS, TARIFFS AND TURMOIL, 
FINALLY SOME LAUGHS.
>> JUSTIN HAS AGREED TO CUT ALL 
TARIFFS AND ALL TRADE BARRIERS 
BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED 
STATES.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY.
>> I'D SAY NAFTA IS IN GOOD 
SHAPE.
>> Reporter: A LIGHT MOMENT ON A
HEAVY TOPIC.
>> OUR RELATIONSHIP IS VERY 
GOOD.
WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON 
CUTTING TARIFFS AND MAKING IT 
ALL VERY FAIR FOR BOTH 
COUNTRIES.
>> Reporter: NICE WORDS, BUT THE
TARIFFS ARE STILL THERE AND 
NAFTA IS STILL IN LIMBO.
AND WHILE THE G7 CAN HAPPILY 
POSE FOR A FAMILY PHOTO, THIS IS
STILL A FAMILY WITH PROBLEMS.
EVEN BEFORE HE MADE HIS WAY TO 
LA MALBAIE, THE BLACK SHEEP OF 
THE FAMILY JOLTED THE G7 ONCE 
MORE.
>> THEY THREW RUSSIA OUT, THEY 
SHOULD LET RUSSIA COME BACK IN, 
BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE RUSSIA AT
THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.
>> Reporter: HE'S ALREADY 
STARTED A TRADE WAR HE NOW WANTS
THE GROUP TO REOPEN ITS ARMS TO 
RUSSIA, WHICH WAS KICKED OUT OF 
THE FORMER G-8 FOUR YEARS AGO 
FOR ANNEXING CRIMEA AND IS THE 
PRIME SUSPECT IN MULTIPLE 
ATTEMPTS TO HACK WESTERN 
ELECTIONS.
>> G7, IT'S A LUCKY NUMBER.
>> Reporter: THE IDEA OF 
REGARDING RUSSIA FLOPPED WITH 
THE LEADERS OF THE EU.
IT WAS FLATLY REJECTEDLY CANADA.
>> RUSSIA MADE CLEAR, THAT IT 
HAD NO INTEREST IN BEHAVING 
ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF 
WESTERN DEMOCRACIES.
>> Reporter: THE 
UNPREDICTABILITY HIGHLIGHTS THE 
CHALLENGE THE LEADERS FACE IN 
DEALING WITH THE U.S. PRESIDENT 
WHO CAN BE TOUGHER ON HIS ALLIES
THAN HIS ENEMIES.
IN TODAY'S MEETING, THAT WERE 
CORDIAL, THE OTHER LEADERS TRIED
TO CONVINCE THE PRESIDENT TO 
DROP HIS TARIFFS.
SO A SMILING AND JOKING TRUMP 
EMERGED.
THE ANGRY TWEETER NOWHERE TO BE 
SEEN.
THERE WAS EVEN A HINT OF 
COMPROMISE.
>> COME TO AN AGREEMENT?
>> I THINK WE'LL HAVE A JOINT 
SESSION.
>> Ian: EARLIER THIS EVENING, I 
SPOKE TO DAVID WHO IS AT THE 
SUMMIT SITE.
DAVID, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT 
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PRIVATE 
MEETING BETWEEN TRUDEAU AND 
TRUMP AFTER THE CAMERAS LEFT?
>> Reporter: WELL, IAN, 
OFFICIALS ARE SAYING IT WAS A 
POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE 
MEETING AND THE TWO LEADERS 
AGREED THEY WOULD ACCELERATE THE
NAFTA TALKS, BUT WE'RE CAUTIONED
TO TAKE THAT WITH A GRAIN OF 
SALT.
WE HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, IT 
HASN'T ALWAYS GONE THAT WAY, BUT
THERE IS A SENSE OF GOODWILL, 
WHILE THE LEADERS ARE MEETING 
FACE-TO-FACE, THE QUESTION IS 
DOES THE GOODWILL REMAIN AFTER 
DONALD TRUMP LEAVES AND GETS 
BACK ON TWITTER.
>> Ian: WHAT ARE WE HEARING 
ABOUT THE JOINT COMMUNIQUÉ?
>> Reporter: THE PRESIDENT 
SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE THERE COULD
BE A JOINT STATEMENT, BUT THE 
PRESIDENT SAYS A LOT OF THINGS 
THAT DON'T OFTEN COME TRUE.
THERE IS DOUBT AMONGST CANADIAN 
OFFICIALS THAT COULD HAPPEN, 
BECAUSE THERE ARE DEEP DIVISIONS
ON TRADE AND CLIMATE.
THE U.S. DELEGATION IS INSISTING
THAT THE FINAL DOCUMENT HAS NO 
REFERENCE WHATSOEVER TO TARIFFS 
AND TRADE, THE OTHER SIX NATIONS
ARE BALKING, IT'S A NON-STARTER 
FOR THEM AND THAT COULD BE WHAT 
CAUSES THEM NOT TO HAVE UNITED 
STATEMENT WHEN THE MEETING ENDS.
>> Ian: FOR SOME HOSTING THE G7 
SUMMIT MIGHT CONJURE IMAGES OF 
PAST CHAOS, LIKE THE VIOLENT 
PROTESTS IN 2001.
SO FAR, HISTORY HAS NOT REPEATED
ITSELF.
NOT THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN 
SKIRMISHES, THERE HAVE BEEN.
BUT OTHER IMAGES WE'VE SEEN 
TODAY, PAINT A RELATIVE CALM 
RATHER CANADIAN PORTRAIT.
A RIOT OFFICER CHATTING WITH A 
WOMAN ON A BENCH.
PROTESTERS DEMONSTRATING IN 
FRONT OF TIM HORTONS.
AND JAELA BERNSTIEN WAS ON THE 
STREETS, WHERE THE PROTESTERS 
MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD OR AT 
LEAST THEY TRIED TO.
HERE'S HOW SHE SAW THE DAY 
UNFOLD.
>> Reporter: THEY PROMISED A DAY
OF DISRUPTION, BUT WHILE 
PROTESTERS DID WHAT THEY COULD 
TO SEND THEIR MESSAGE, THEY WERE
HAMPERED, OUTNUMBERED BY A WALL 
OF POLICE.
A GAME OF CAT-AND-MOUSE, PLAYED 
OUT THROUGH THE DAY, POP-UP 
DEMOS APPEARED, POLICE DECLARED 
THEM ILLEGAL, PROTESTERS 
DISPERSED AND THEN IT HAPPENED 
ALL OVER AGAIN AT ANOTHER FLASH 
APPOINTMENT.
LULLS IN THE ACTION, FOLLOWED BY
STANDOFFS.
IN ONE RESIDENTIAL ALLEY, POLICE
CORNERED PROTESTERS AT A DEAD 
END, AT LEAST THREE WERE TAKEN 
INTO CUSTODY.
BUT WHAT STOOD OUT THE MOST WAS 
THE CONTRAST.
THIS HEAVY POLICE PRESENCE 
TRACKING EVERY MOVE OF A SMALL 
GROUP OF PROTESTERS.
NOT WHAT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION 
SHOULD LOOK LIKE SAID THIS 
WOMAN.
YOU'RE HERE, AREN'T YOU, AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL, SHE SAYS.
AMNESTY IS HERE AND IT DOESN'T 
LIKE WHAT IT'S SEEING.
>> ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE
BELIEVE THE AUTHORITIES SHOULD 
BE FOLLOWING IS TO HAVE A 
PRESENCE THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE
RISK.
AND SO, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS 
NOT WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY.
>> Reporter: SHE IS CONCERNED 
THAT HEAVY-HANDED SECURITY IS 
SIMPLY SHUTTING PEOPLE DOWN.
>> SOME OF THEM FEAR COMING IN 
THE STREETS, EVEN BEFORE THE G7.
WHAT WE HAVE IS A CLIMATE OF 
FEAR THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE 
G7, NOT ONLY FROM OF COURSE 
ARTICLES THAT WE FOUND IN THE 
MEDIA, BUT ALSO STATEMENTS ON 
SECURITY MEASURES.
>> Reporter: THEY SAY THE JOB OF
POLICE IS NOT JUST TO PROTECT 
THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO THE RIGHTS 
OF THOSE PROTESTING.
AND WITH MORE DEMONSTRATIONS 
PLANNED FOR TOMORROW, AMNESTY 
SAYS IT WILL BE WATCHING.
>> Ian: LATER ON "THE NATIONAL",
MORE FROM THE G7 FROM MANY OF 
THE PROTESTERS, WORLD LEADERS 
WON'T EVEN SEE OR HEAR THEIR 
MESSAGE, SO WHAT MOTIVATES THEM 
TO DEMONSTRATE?
>> HE WAS A CHEF, A TV HOST AND 
A TALENTED STORY TELLER, WHO 
CONNECTED LEGIONS OF FANS WITH 
WORLD CULTURE THROUGH FOOD.
WE LOOK AT THE LEGACY OF ANTHONY
BOURDAIN.
>> Rosemary: FIRST, ONTARIO 
VOTED FOR CHANGE AND THEY SURE 
GOT IT IN DOUG FORD.
SO WHAT COMES NEXT?
A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THE BOOKS AS
IT TURNS OUT.
HERE'S HANNAH THIBEDEAU.
>> Reporter: HE DIDN'T TAKE MUCH
TIME TO CELEBRATE HIS BIG WIN.
>> MY VOICE IS A LITTLE HOARSE.
>> Reporter: JUST OVER 12 HOURS 
AFTER WINNING A RESOUNDING 
MAJORITY, PREMIER-DESIGNATE DOUG
FORD GOT RIGHT DOWN TO BUSINESS.
HE AND HIS TEAM STARTED THE 
TRANSITION TO TAKE OVER FROM THE
DEFEATED LIBERALS.
>> AFTER A HARD-FOUGHT CAMPAIGN,
WE KNOW THE HARD WORK HAS JUST 
BEGUN.
BUT WE INTEND TO ACT FAST.
>> Reporter: THE TORY LEADER 
DIDN'T SAY JUST HOW QUICKLY 
HE'LL MOVE ON BIG CAMPAIGN 
PLEDGES, LIKE CUTTING GAS TAXES 
BY 10 CENTS A LITRE, SCRAPPING 
THE CURRENT SEX EDUCATION 
CURRICULUM AND LOWERING TAXES 
FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND 
CORPORATIONS.
FORD SAYS THE TRANSITION WILL 
TAKE ABOUT 21 DAYS AND IN THAT 
TIME, HE AND HIS TEAM WILL LOOK 
AT ONTARIO'S BOOKS AND FIGURE 
OUT WHO WILL BE IN HIS CABINET.
ONCE HE IS SWORN IN, THAT'S WHEN
FORD GOES FROM DESIGNATE TO 
PREMIER.
BUT RIGHT NOW HIS TEAM SAYS IT'S
ABOUT COMING TO GRIPS WITH THE 
PROVINCE'S FINANCIAL SITUATION.
>> I THINK IT'S GETTING THE 
FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER, MAKING 
SURE THAT DOUG AND HIS 
TRANSITION TEAM GET IN THERE AND
SEE THE STATE OF THE BOOKS AND 
GET RIGHT TO WORK.
>> Reporter: AND THE SPIN 
ALREADY?
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.
>> I PREDICT WE'RE GOING FIND 
OUT THE STATE OF THE ONTARIO 
FINANCES IS PRETTY BAD.
>> Reporter: EVEN IF THE 
FINANCES ARE WORSE THAN 
EXPECTED, SOME SAY FORD WILL 
FULFILL ALL OF HIS PROMISES.
>> I THINK DOUG FORD WILL POUND 
THE DESK WHEN PEOPLE GIVE HIM  
EXCUSES WHY THEY CAN'T BE DONE.
>> Reporter: THROUGHOUT THE MORE
THAN FOUR-WEEK CAMPAIGN, FORD 
NEVER PROVIDED HIS PARTY'S 
ACCOUNTING OF THE CAMPAIGN 
PROMISES, LEAVING SOME A BIT 
SKEPTICAL OF THIS POLARIZING 
POLITICAL LEADER.
>> PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE GIVEN 
ME A CLEAR MANDATE TO GOVERN, 
WE'RE GOING TO GOVERN, WE HAVE A
TEAM READY.
>> Reporter: FORD MAY HAVE THE 
TEAM READY, BUT NOW HE'LL HAVE 
TO MOVE FROM CAMPAIGN RHETORIC 
TO GOVERNING.
HANNAH THIBEDEAU, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: WITH THE 
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES ENDING
15 YEARS OF LIBERAL RULE IN 
ONTARIO, DOUG FORD COULD NOW 
FIND HIMSELF, POSSIBLY ON A 
COLLISION COURSE WITH THE 
FEDERAL LIBERALS.
TONIGHT, CATHERINE CULLEN LOOKS 
AT WHAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR 
JUSTIN TRUDEAU'S POLITICAL 
GOALS.
>> Reporter: JUSTIN TRUDEAU IS 
DEALING WITH ONE CHALLENGING 
PARTNER RIGHT NOW IN CHARLEVOIX,
BUT WHEN HE GETS BACK HOME 
THERE, IS NEW NEIGHBOUR TO 
CONTEND WITH.
>> I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH PRIME 
MINISTER TRUDEAU.
>> Reporter: TODAY, DOUG FORD 
SOUNDED LIKE AN ALLY.
>> I SAID WE'LL STAND UNITED 
AGAINST OUR NEIGHBOURS TO THE 
SOUTH.
AND I'M VERY INSEER WHEN I SAY 
THAT.
>> Reporter: BUT WHILE TRUDEAU 
GOT ALONG WITH KATHLEEN WYNNE, 
THERE IS CLEARLY PLENTY OF 
ACRIMONY BETWEEN SOME FEDERAL 
LIBERALS AND DOUG FORD.
>> HE IS INCAPABLE OF GOVERNING.
>> WHY PEOPLE WOULD EMBRACE SUCH
A MANIFESTLY OBVIOUS UNQUALIFIED
CANDIDATE FOR PREMIER.
>> Reporter: AND SOME OF FORD'S 
GOALS COULD DERAIL TRUDEAU'S 
AGENDA.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SCRAP THE 
CARBON TAX.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE KNOW THAT PUTTING A 
PRICE ON CARBON POLLUTION DRIVES
IMPROVEMENTS.
>> Reporter: TRUDEAU'S PLAN TO 
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE INVOLVES 
EVERY PROVINCE PUTTING A PRICE 
ON CARBON AND IF THEY DON'T, THE
PRIME MINISTER SAYS HE'LL IMPOSE
IT.
>> WHICH PUTS THEM ON A 
COLLISION COURSE.
>> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE 
IN FOR A FIGHT.
FOR A FIGHT CERTAINLY IN 
ONTARIO.
>> Reporter: TRUDEAU'S 
ENVIRONMENT MINISTER IS VAGUELY 
OPTIMISTIC.
>> PEOPLE SAY THINGS DURING THE 
ELECTION, I GUESS WE'LL SEA WHAT
THE PLAN IS.
>> Reporter: THEN THERE IS 
HEALTH CARE.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE IN SAFE 
INJECTION AREAS.
>> Reporter: BUT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IS THE ONE WHO 
APPROVED SUPERVISED INJECTION 
SITES AND TRUDEAU LIBERALS 
BELIEVE THEY SAVE LIVES.
AND THE BIG NEWS THAT THE 
LIBERALS ARE EYEING NATIONAL 
PHARMACARE AS A PLEDGE IN THE 
NEXT ELECTION.
IF TRUDEAU'S PLAN REQUIRES 
BUY-IN, ESPECIALLY MONEY FROM 
THE PROVINCES, IT'S NOT CLEAR 
FORD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT
EITHER.
FORD MAY HAVE BENEFITTED FROM 
HAVING TRUDEAU'S CARBON TAX TO 
CAMPAIGN AGAINST.
IN 2019, THOUGH, THE ROLES WILL 
BE REVERSED.
WILL FORD BE A USEFUL FOIL FOR 
TRUDEAU TO CAMPAIGN AGAINST?
OR JUST THE GUY WHO FOILS HIS 
PLANS?
>> Rosemary: THAT CHANGE FROM 
RED TO BLUE IS SURE TO PUT 
FEDERAL-PROVINCIAL RELATIONS TO 
THE TEST.
AND TRUDEAU COULD HAVE MORE 
PROBLEMS TO CONTEND WITH, TOO.
>> THE FACT THAT A 15-YEAR-OLD 
GOVERNMENT IN ONTARIO WAS KICKED
OUT, SO DRAMATICALLY, DOWN DO 
SEVEN SEATS, DOES THAT BODE 
POORLY FOR YOU.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY VALID 
COMPARISON.
>> QUÉBEC'S LIBERAL PARTY IS 
GOING INTO ELECTION THIS FALL 
AND PHILIPPE COUILLARD IS 
TRAILING.
ALBERTA'S N.D.P. PREMIER WILL 
FIGHT FOR REELECTION NEXT 
SPRING.
TRUDEAU AND RACHEL NOTLEY ARE 
CLOSE ALLIES ON THE PIPELINE 
FILE RIGHT NOW, BUT... 
>> STAND UP TO THE TRUDEAU 
LIBERALS AND DEFEND ALBERTA.
>> Rosemary: BUT JASON KENNEY 
HAS ALREADY PROMISED A MORE AN 
TAG IS INISTIC APPROACH TO 
TRUDEAU.
THANK GOODNESS WE'VE CONVENED A 
SPECIAL "AT ISSUE".
ANDREW, CHANTAL AND ÉRIC 
GRENIER, HE WAS UP LATE WITH ME 
LAST NIGHT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE DOUG 
FORD'S FIRST MOVE?
>> Ian: LATER IN THE HOUR, MORE 
FROM QUÉBEC CITY IF THE WIND 
DOESN'T BLOW OUR LIGHTS OVER.
WE'LL MEET THE PROTESTERS TRYING
TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD FROM 
THE GROUND AND THE SKY.
>>> AND A SHOCKING LOSS FOR THE 
CULINARY WORLD AND BEYOND.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN DIED TODAY.
HIS LEGACY TAKING US OUT OF THE 
THE KITCHEN AND BUILDING 
UNDERSTANDING AND CONNECTIONS 
THROUGH FOOD.
>> EVEN PEOPLE WITH WHOM YOU 
HAVE REALLY FUNDAMENTAL 
DISAGREEMENTS AND MAYBE COMPLETE
DIFFERENT BELIEF SYSTEMS,
[ * ]
>> Andrew: FRIENDS AND FANS ARE 
EXPRESSING SHOCK AT THE DEATH OF
CELEBRITY CHEF AND TV TRAVEL 
HOUSE ANTHONY BOURDAIN.
HE WAS FOUND DEAD IN A FRENCH 
HOTEL ROOM TODAY, OF APPARENT 
SUICIDE.
CNN WHICH AIRED PARTS THE 
UNKNOWN TT ISSUED A STATEMENT.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN'S CAREER TOOK 
HIM AROUND THE WORLD AND HE 
ALWAYS SEEMED TO FIND A WAY TO 
TAKE US WITH HIM, WHEREVER HE 
WENT.
STEPHANIE SKENDERIS LOOKS BACK 
AT A LIFE LIVED TO THE FULLEST.
>> HERE WE ARE AT THE ASS OF THE
UNIVERSE.
>> Reporter: ANTHONY BOURDAIN 
WAS NEVER AFRAID TO SPEAK HIS 
MIND.
>> COUNTRY, MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, 
NEWFOUNDLAND.
>> Reporter: AND WHEN HE PAID A 
COMPLIMENT, YOU KNEW IT WAS 
REAL.
>> NEWFOUNDLAND IS INCREDIBLE.
>> TO THE QUEEN.
>> Reporter: HIS EPISODE 
FEATURING RAYMOND'S RESTAURANT 
IN ST. JOHN'S, AIRED LAST MONTH.
THE CHEF SAYS IT FEELS LIKE HE 
WAS THERE YESTERDAY.
>> WE WERE OUT HAVING A GREAT 
TIME, DISCOVERING THE LAY OF THE
LAND.
AND THERE IS NO INDICATION OR --
IT'S THE LAST THING YOU WOULD 
THINK OF.
>> Reporter: TODAY, ANTHONY 
BOURDAIN'S NETWORK CNN BROKE THE
NEWS.
>> IT'S HARD TO PROCESS THIS 
TODAY.
>> Reporter: A WOMAN OUTSIDE THE
RESTAURANT WHERE HE WORKED FEELS
THE SAME.
>> HE HAD JUST THEMENT  RIGHT AMOUNT 
OF COCKINESS.
>> Reporter: IT'S A BALANCE 
BOURDAIN GOT JUST RIGHT.
HE WAS A CELEBRITY CHEF NOT 
KNOWN FOR HIS OWN FOOD.
>> I'M NOT A CULINARY GENIUS, 
FAR FROM IT.
REMEMBER 
>> Reporter: HIS REAL SKILL, 
STORY TELLING.
AFTER WORKING AS A LINE COOK, HE
FIRST GAINED FAME FOR WRITING.
HE WAS CANDID WITH HIS STRUGGLES
WITH DRUG ADDICTION AND HE 
EXPOSE RESTAURANTS IN BOOKS.
>> HE HAD A LASTING IMPACT ON 
HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOW 
RESTAURANTS WORK.
>> Reporter: BUT HE WAS BEST 
KNOWN FOR CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE
THROUGH FOOD.
HE COULD BRING BARACK OBAMA TO A
TINY NOODLE SHOP IN VIETNAM, OR 
SPEAK TO ORDINARY PEOPLE ABOUT 
HOW THEIR COUNTRY SHAPED THEIR 
CUISINE.
>> HE WAS THE FIRST CHEF THAT 
BELIEVED THAT STORY TELLING 
THROUGH FOOD IS THE BEST WAY TO 
COMMUNICATE PEOPLE'S LIVES, 
PEOPLE'S CULTURES, PEOPLE'S 
ETHNICITY, BEHAVIORS.
>> Reporter: THE TRICK, BOURDAIN
SAID WAS TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
>> I'VE GOTTEN ALONG WITH PEOPLE
EVERYWHERE IN THIS WORLD AND 
HEARD SOME INCREDIBLE STORIES.
LARGELY BECAUSE I SIT DOWN 
WITHOUT AN AGENDA AND ASK THEM A
SIMPLE QUESTION.
WHAT IS FOR DINNER?
WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY?
>> Reporter: ANTHONY BOURDAIN 
WAS 61 YEARS OLD.
>> Andrew: LOOKING BACK, 
BOURDAIN WAS OPEN ABOUT 
ADDICTION, BUT ALSO ABOUT 
SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION.
HE USED TO DESCRIBE HOW BEING ON
THE ROAD 250 DAYS A YEAR LEFT 
HIM FEELING LONELY AND ISOLATED.
HE TRAVELLED TO ARGENTINA TO 
SHOOT AN EPISODE AND WOUND UP 
SEEING A PSYCHOTHERAPIST.
>> I WILL FIND MYSELF IN AN 
AIRPORT AND I'LL ORDER A 
HAMBURGER.
IT'S A SMALL THING, IT'S A 
HAMBURGER, BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD 
ONEMENT SUDDENLY, I LOOK AT THE 
HAMBURGER AND FIND MYSELF IN A 
SPIRAL OF DEPRESSION THAT CAN 
LAST FOR DAYS.
>> Andrew: EVEN STILL, 
BOURDAIN'S DEATH IS A HUGE SHOCK
AND ON THE HEELS OF ANOTHER 
HIGH-PROFILE SUICIDE.
THE WORLD LEARNED OF KATE 
SPADE'S DEATH JUST A FEW DAYS 
AGO.
AND NOW, IT'S THE RIPPLE EFFECT 
THAT IS RAISING WORRIES.
SPECIFICALLY, HOW ALL OF THIS 
AFFECTS OTHER VULNERABLE PEOPLE.
CONSIDER A RECENT STUDY THAT 
FOUND IN THE FIVE MONTHS AFTER 
ACTOR ROBIN WILLIAMS ENDED HIS 
LIFE, THE SUICIDE RATE IN THE 
U.S. JUMPED ALMOST 10%.
THAT IS A STAGGERING FACT.
SO WE'VE INVITED SOMEONE TO HELP
TALK US THROUGH THE PROBLEM, 
IT'S CALLED SUICIDE CONTAGION.
YOU WORK AT SUNNY BROOK HOSPITAL
IN TORONTO.
I'M WONDERING FROM THE POINT OF 
VIEW FROM SOMEONE SUFFERING, HOW
CAN MEDIA COVERAGE AFFECT THEM?
>> IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH 
DEPRESSION OR ANXIETY OR 
SUBSTANCE USE PROBLEMS, HAVE 
THINKING ERRORS.
THEIR THOUGHTS SAY TO THEM, AT 
LEAST IN SOME CASES, THAT LIFE 
ISN'T WORK LIVING, PEOPLE DON'T 
CARE ABOUT THEM, BUT WE KNOW 
IT'S NOT TRUE.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE SEEK 
HELP, THOSE THOUGHTS CAN CHANGE.
WHEN PEOPLE SEE A PROMINENT 
SUICIDE DEATH IN A CELEBRITY, 
THEY SOMETIMES IDENTIFY WITH 
THAT AND THEY MAKE THE MISTAKE 
OF COPYING THAT BEHAVIOR, AND 
NOT REALIZING THAT IT WAS A 
TERRIBLE TRAGEDY AND INSTEAD 
THEY SHOULD HAVE SOUGHT HELP.
>> Andrew: WHEN I LOOK AT THE 
WAY THE MEDIA DOES COVER 
SUICIDES, PARTICULARLY MIGHT 
HAVE ONES, THERE IS A SENSE -- 
HIGH-PROFILE ONES, THERE IS A 
SENSITIVITY TO THE APPROACH, WE 
TRY TO BE SELECTIVE ABOUT THE 
COVERAGE, TOO, AND I WONDER IS 
THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT 
IT?
IS THERE A RISK OF HIDING 
ASPECTS OF SUICIDE AND 
DEPRESSION THAT IS UNHELPFUL?
SHOULD EVERYTHING BE IN THE 
OPEN?
>> I THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO 
FIND OUT ABOUT THE DEATHS 
ANYWAY.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A DESIRE 
TO CONCEAL THEM, BUT I DON'T 
THINK THERE IS DESIRE TO 
CONTEXTLIZE THEM.
THERE ARE PATHS TO RESILIENCE 
AND THEY DON'T DIE BUY SUICIDE.
THERE WAS RESEARCH DONE IN 
EUROPE THAT SHOWED AFTER MEDIA 
REPORTED ON WHAT TYPICALLY 
HAPPENS, WHICH IS PEOPLE 
THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE, BUT 
SEEKING HELP AND GETTING BETTER,
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION 
IN SUICIDES ACROSS THE ENTIRE 
COUNTRY OF AUSTRIA, SO WHAT 
WE'RE HOPING IS YOU PRESENT 
THINGS AS THEY ARE.
>> Andrew: WE HOPE THERE ARE 
TEACHABLE MOMENTS WHEN SOMETHING
LIKE THIS HAPPENS.
HOW SHOULD PEOPLE START TO HELP 
OTHERS THAT THEY SUSPECT MAY 
NEED HELP?
>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE EXPECTING
EVERYBODY TO BECOME 
PSYCHOLOGISTS OR PSYCHIATRISTS, 
BUT IF SOMEONE AROUND YOU IS 
ANXIOUS OR WITHDRAWING, PEOPLE 
PICK UP ON IT.
WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO IS LISTEN, TO
BE THERE AND APPROACH THE PERSON
AND TO SAY, YOU CARE, THAT 
THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT PERSON, 
YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING 
THEM AND MAYBE JUST TALKING 
COULD BE ENOUGH FOR SOME PEOPLE 
TO HELP WITH A SUICIDE CRISIS.
AND FOR OTHER PEOPLE, IF THAT'S 
NOT WORKING, TO ENCOURAGE THEM 
TO REACH OUT, TO CALL A CRISIS 
LINE OR GO TO AN EMERGENCY 
DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS HOPE.
>> Andrew: MARK SINYOR, THANK 
YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK 
TO US.
>>> SO, IN THIS COUNTRY, FOR 
EVERY SUICIDE DEATH, THERE ARE 
AS MANY AS 20 ATTEMPTS.
TO MARK'S POINT, IF YOU OR 
SOMEONE YOU KNOW ARE AT RISK, 
THERE ARE DEFINITELY PLACES TO 
GO FOR HELP.
YOU CAN CALL THE CANADA SUICIDE 
PREVENTION SERVICE OR IF YOU'RE 
IN QUÉBEC.
LATER ON "THE NATIONAL", A SIDE 
TO BOURDAIN NO EVERYONE KNOWS 
ABOUT.
BOURDAIN CAME TO HER DEFENCE 
AFTER HER GLOWING REVIEW OF THE 
OLIVE GARDEN THAT WAS 
MERCILESSLY MOCKED ONLINE.
>> Rosemary: PERFECT.
THE AT ISSUE GANG IS HERE.
WHAT COULD THEY BE TALKING 
ABOUT?
THE ONTARIO ELECTION.
WHAT WILL BE DOUG FORD'S FIRST 
ORDER OF BUSINESS?
>> AFTER A HARD-FOUGHT CAMPAIGN,
[ * ]
>> YOU WORRIED ABOUT GOING TO 
JAIL?
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE 
NATIONAL", MORE TROUBLE FOR THE 
CAMPAIGN CHAIR.
ROBERT MUELLER HIT PAUL 
MANAFORT.
ALSO CHARGED WITH OBSTRUCTION 
TODAY, HIS LONG TIME ASSOCIATE, 
KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK, SAID TO 
HAVE TIES TO RUSSIAN AFFILIATES.
>> HE CERTAINLY, HIS MEMORY IS 
VERY POPULAR NOW, I'M THINKING 
ABOUT MUHAMMAD ALI.
>> THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP 
SAYING HE'S THINKING ABOUT A 
POSTHUMOUS PARDON FOR THE BOXING
LEGEND.
HE WAS CONVICTED IN 1967 AFTER 
REFUSING MILITARY SERVICE IN 
VIETNAM, BUT IN A STATEMENT, THE
LAWYER SAID, THANKS, BUT A 
PARDON ISN'T ACTUALLY NECESSARY.
HIS CONVICTION WAS OVERTURNED 
ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO.
>>> NBA STAR DENNIS RODMAN HAS 
PUT AN END TO THE SPECULATION, 
ANNOUNCING HE WILL BE IN 
SINGAPORE FOR THE UPCOMING 
SUMMIT BETWEEN TRUMP AND KIM 
JONG-UN.
THE U.S. PRESIDENT SAID HE WAS 
NOT INVITED TO THE MEETING, BUT 
RODMAN, CONSIDERED A PERSONAL 
FRIEND OF KIM'S SAID HE'LL BE 
THERE TO PROVIDE "WHATEVER 
SUPPORT IS NEEDED".
THE SUMMIT IS SET FOR TUESDAY, 
JUNE 12, LOCAL TIME, WHICH IS 
MONDAY NIGHT HERE IN CANADA.
>> I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH PRIME 
MINISTER TRUDEAU, I'VE LAID OUT 
MY PRIORITIES FOR THE PEOPLE OF 
ONTARIO.
I MADE A COMMITMENT TO WORK 
CLOSELY WITH OUR FEDERAL 
PARTNERS TO SUPPORT THEM WITH 
THE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS WITH 
OUR NEIGHBOURS TO THE SOUTH.
AND WORK TOGETHER TO DELIVER ON 
OUR PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE OF 
ONTARIO.
I TOLD THE PRIME MINISTER THAT 
WE WILL MAKE ONTARIO THE ENGINE 
OF CANADA ONCE AGAIN.
AND WHAT IS GOOD FOR ONTARIO IS 
GOOD FOR CANADA.
>> Rosemary: THAT WAS ONTARIO'S 
PREMIER-DESIGNATE DOUG FORD, THE
DAY AFTER HIS PARTY SWEPT INTO 
GOVERNMENT.
A RESULT THAT MANY EXPECTED, BUT
COULD IT SIGNAL A GROWING DIVIDE
IN THE COUNTRY BETWEEN 
PROVINCES?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR ONTARIO?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR CANADA?
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE ON A RARE 
FRIDAY NIGHT.
ANDREW COYNE AND ÉRIC GRENIER, 
HE HAS BARELY SLEPT, BUT HE'S 
HERE ANYWAY, CHANTAL HÉBERT IS 
IN MONTREAL.
I'LL START WITH YOU, ANDREW, 
LET'S START WITH THE ONTARIO 
PART, HOW BIG A SHIFT ARE WE 
GOING TO SEE IN THE PROVINCE?
>> NOBODY KNOWS.
THE CONSERVATIVES UNDER DOUG 
FORD RAN ON A VERY VAGUE AND 
SHIFTING PLATFORM.
SOME PARTS OF IT FROM THE 
PREVIOUS LEADER PATRICK BROWN, 
SOME IMPROVISED ON THE FLY, HARD
TO READ WHAT THE NUMBERS MEANT.
SO THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF LATITUDE.
VAGUELY SPEAKING, IT WAS 
SOMEWHAT MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN 
THE OTHER PARTIES.
IT MAY BE FORCED UPON THEM TO BE
MORE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE THE 
PROVINCE'S FINANCIAL SITUATION 
IS DIRE.
THERE IS SPECULATION ABOUT WHICH
SPENDING PROMISE HE'LL HAVE TO 
ABANDON.
IT WILL MEAN DIFFERENCES IN TONE
AND STYLE.
>> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU THINK 
ONTARIO LOOKS LIKE 12 MONTHS 
FROM NOW?
>> OH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD 
QUESTION.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF 
THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED ONE WAY OR 
THE OTHER HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF 
WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT 
FORT THRONE SPEECH AND THE 
BUDGET TO FIGURE THAT OUT, 
BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING SAID 
IN THE COURSE OF THE 
CONSERVATIVE CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD
GIVE YOU CLEAR INDICATION.
AND IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE 
LAST TIME THE CONSERVATIVES CAME
BACK TO POWER, MIKE HARRIS, THIS
IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
IT'S A BIT OF A BLANK CHEQUE, 
BUT CERTAINLY NO BLUEPRINT, NO 
PUN INTENDED, WAS PUT FORWARD.
>> Rosemary: BUT IT'S A 
DEFINITIVE MANDATE.
WE SAID THAT IN THE COVERAGE 
LAST NIGHT.
WE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING 
LOOK LIKE, BUT HE SEEMS TO HAVE 
THE LEEWAY TO DO IT.
>> IT'S A STRONG RESULT FOR THE 
P.C.s.
FORD COMES IN IN AN INTERESTING 
POSITION, BECAUSE HE'S STILL 
UNPOPULAR DESPITE THE FACT HE 
WON.
POLLS ARE SHOWING THAT A 
MAJORITY OF ONTARIANS DISAPPROVE
OF HIM OR THINK NEGATIVELY HIM.
THAT'S A WEIRD PLACE TO BE 
COMING IN TO BE UNPOPULAR 
INSTEAD OF POPULAR.
WE'LL SEE IF THE NUMBERS STAY 
LIKE THAT.
BUT IT SUGGESTS HE STARTS OUT 
NEEDING TO CONVINCE ONTARIANS HE
WILL BE A GOOD PREMIER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, THEY WON IN 
SPITE OF HIM.
THEY REALLY WON BECAUSE PEOPLE 
HAD DECIDED LONG AGO THEY WANTED
TO GET RID OF THE LIBERAL 
GOVERNMENT.
THERE WAS A BIT OF WAVERING MID 
CAMPAIGN ABOUT THAT, BUT 
BASICALLY PEOPLE DECIDED THEY 
WANTED TO GET RID OF THE 
LIBERALS AND THEN HAD TO DECIDE 
WHO THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE 
TORIES IN CHECK.
IT WOUND UP BEING THE N.D.P.
BUT THAT WAS BAKED IN LONG AGO.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TALK ABOUT 
WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE COUNTRY, 
BECAUSE CERTAINLY, LOTS OF 
PEOPLE WATCHED, LOTS OF PEOPLE 
HAD INTEREST.
I'M CONCERNED PEOPLE ARE MAKING 
TOO MUCH OF THE DIFFERENCES 
BETWEEN DOUG FORD AND JUSTIN 
TRUDEAU, AS THOUGH THEY'RE NOT 
GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR 
JOBS.
WHAT ARE THE COMPLICATION OR THE
CHALLENGES FOR THE COUNTRY WITH 
DOUG FORD AS PREMIER?
>> WELL, IF YOU'RE SITTING ON 
PARLIAMENT HILL AND YOU'RE THE 
FEDERAL LIBERALS IN POWER, 
LOOKING AT AN ELECTION ONE YEAR 
DOWN THE ROAD, THE ALIGNMENT OF 
THE PROVINCE IS CHANGED AND NOT 
IN YOUR FAVOUR OF TWO MAJOR 
FILES.
THE OBVIOUS ONE IS CARBON 
PRICING AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
DOUG FORD HAS SAID HE WANTS TO 
PULL ONTARIO OUT OF THE CARBON 
MEASURES IN PLACE, AND THAT 
TELLS THE FEDERAL PROVINCIAL 
BALANCE, WHEN JUSTIN TRUDEAU 
STARTED OUT, SASKATCHEWAN WAS 
THE LONE OUTLIER.
BY NEXT YEAR, IT COULD BE 
ONTARIO, SASKATCHEWAN, MANITOBA 
AND ALBERTA IF THE CONSERVATIVES
WIN.
THE OTHER FILE THAT NO ONE TALKS
ABOUT, BUT IS REAL, IS JUSTIN 
TRUDEAU'S STATED AMBITION TO PUT
IN PLACE A NATIONAL PHARMACARE 
PROGRAMME.
FOR THAT YOU NEED ONTARIO 
BUY-IN.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THIS IS THE 
KIND OF GOVERNMENT THAT WANTS TO
BUY INTO AN INITIATIVE LIKE 
THAT.
>> Rosemary: WITH THAT IN MIND, 
I WANT TO SHOW YOU, ANDREW 
SCHEER WENT ON A TWEET STORM, 
NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP, HE SAID 
THIS.
OBVIOUSLY HE'S TRYING TO LINK 
THE DOUG FORD WIN TO KATHLEEN 
WYNNE'S LOSS.
IS THAT PUSHING IT A LITTLE TOO 
FAR?
>> YES, AND PEOPLE ALWAYS DO 
THIS AFTER ELECTIONS.
THEY OVER-READ THEM.
THE TORIES AVERAGE VOTE WAS 33%,
IT WENT UP TO 40%.
BUT 60% OF THE PUBLIC VOTED FOR 
PARTIES SUPPORTIVE OF CLIMATE 
CHANGE MEASURES, ET CETERA, ET 
CETERA, SO I WOULDN'T OVER-READ 
THE MANDATE, BUT THE WAY THE 
SYSTEM WORKS, HE HAS THE POWER 
TO PUT IT IN THE WORKS.
I'D STAY TUNED ON THAT FILE.
HE'S BEEN ADAMANT IN SAYING I 
WANT NO PART OF CAP-AND-TRADE, 
NO PART OF THE CARBON TAX.
HE IS GOING TO BE SHORED UP FOR 
FUNDS.
WILL HE PASS UP $10 BILLION I 
BELIEVE IT IS OF REVENUES 
COLLECTED BY ANOTHER LEVEL OF 
GOVERNMENT?
WE'LL SEE.
>> THE TURNOUT IN THE ELECTION 
WAS 58%, SO THAT IS 
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE 
FEDERAL ELECTION.
THAT MEANS THERE WAS A LOT OF 
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THE TRUDEAU
LIBERALS IN 2015 WHO DIDN'T GO 
OUT TO VOTE IN 2018.
SO THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT GO TO THE 
BALLOT NEXT YEAR.
IT DOESN'T MEAN BECAUSE THE 
P.C.s HAD 40% SUPPORT IN THE 
ELECTION MEANS THAT THE 
CONSERVATIVES WILL GET THAT.
AND THE FEDERAL LIBERAL BRAND IS
STRONG.
A LOT OF PEOPLE VOTING IN THE 
ELECTION NOT BECAUSE OF 
LIBERALS, BUT BECAUSE OF 
KATHLEEN WYNNE.
YOU CAN'T TRANSFER ONE TO THE 
OTHER.
>> WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING, OR 
ALMOST THE FIRST FEDERAL THING 
AFTER MAKE HARRIS WON A MAJORITY
GOVERNMENT?
IT WAS RECONDUCTED FOR A SECOND 
MAJORITY.
SO TO TAKE THE ONTARIO RESULT 
AND SAY THIS IS HOW THINGS WORK,
IF I WERE THE FEDERAL 
CONSERVATIVE LEADER, I WOULDN'T 
WANT TO GO THERE.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TALK ABOUT 
THE TWO OTHER PARTIES A LITTLE 
BIT.
WE'LL START WITH ANDREA HORWATH.
I SAID TO SOMEONE EARLIER, I 
THINK THIS WAS A GREAT NIGHT FOR
HER, BUT THEY SAID, IT WAS THE 
ONLY TIME SHE COULD HAVE WON AN 
ELECTION AND SHE LOST IT.
IT IS A BIG MOVE FROM THIRD 
PARTY TO OFFICIAL OPPOSITION AND
ALLOWS THEM TO DO WORK HERE IN 
TRANSLATING THAT TO MORE 
SUPPORT.
>> I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THIS THE 
HIGH WATERMARK FOR THE NEW 
DEMOCRATS.
IF THE DOUG FORD GOVERNMENT 
DOESN'T DO WELL, THE NEIL 
MacDONALD -- N.D.P. WILL BE IN 
THE STRONG POSITION.
YOU CAN THINK OF THE NEW 
DEMOCRATS IN 2011, BUT JACK 
LAYTON PASSED AWAY.
ANDREA HORWATH, IF SHE IS STILL 
THE LEADER IN 2022 AND THE P.C.s
HAVE NOT HAD A GOOD TERM, THE 
N.D.P. WILL BE THERE.
>> WHAT IF THE N.D.P. HAD NOT 
GONE FAR LEFT IN THE CAMPAIGN?
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN 
TO THEM WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015.
BUT IF THE LIBERALS WERE OUT OF 
IT FROM THE START AS THEY 
APPEARED, MAYBE IF THEY HAD BEEN
A BIT MORE CENTRIST, THE N.D.P.,
THEY MAY HAVE HAD A CHANCE.
THEY PEAKED TOO SOON.
IF THEY'D BEEN POSITIONED MORE 
THE SENT, MAYBE THEY COULD 
WITHSTAND THAT.
>> Rosemary: THEY REALIZED THAT 
TOO.
>> IT WOULD HAVE HELPED TO 
FEATURE MORE OF A TEAM.
BUT AT SOME POINT, PEOPLE 
STARTED ASKING CAN IF I'M GOING 
TO ELECT THOSE PEOPLE, WHO IS 
GOING TO BE THE MINISTER OF 
FINANCE, WHO IS THE MINISTER OF 
HEALTH?
AND AT THIS POINT DOUG FORD 
SHOWED UP WITH CAROLINE MULRONEY
AND CHRISTINE ELLIOTT, THAT 
NEVER HAPPENED FOR THE N.D.P.
GOING BACK TO IN FOUR YEARS, I'M
NOT SURE THAT FORD KICKED OUT 
THE -- BUT B, IT IS -- REMEMBER 
THAT THE LIBERALS ARE NOT GOING 
TO HAVE MUCH SPACE IN THAT NEW 
LEGISLATURE WITHOUT OFFICIAL 
PARTY STATUS, SO THERE IS 
OPPORTUNITY THERE.
>> Rosemary: SO WHAT HAPPENS TO 
THEM?
THAT PARTY DOESN'T GO AWAY.
IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR.
>> THE LIBERALS YOU MEAN?
>> Rosemary: YES.
>> WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THE 
LIBERAL BRAND IN CANADA IS 
ENDURING AND STRONG.
THERE ARE LOTS OF PROFESSIONAL 
PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM.
SO I WOULDN'T COUNT THEM OUT.
I ALSO WOULDN'T MINIMIZE WHAT 
JUST HAPPENED.
THAT'S THE LOWEST SHARE OVER THE
POPULAR VOTE THAT ANY LIBERAL 
PARTY HAS GOTTEN IN OUR HISTORY.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S A FUN FACT.
NOT FOR THEM.
>> THE LIBERAL BRAND IS STRONG.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE POLLING ON 
THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT THE 
TRUDEAU LIBERALS ARE DOING WELL.
THEY STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY 
TO COME BACK, BUT IT WILL TAKE A
LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
AFTER 15 YEARS IN OFFICE, PEOPLE
AREN'T READY TO GET YOU BACK IN 
AND THE NEXT LEADER MIGHT NOT BE
A STAR, BECAUSE WHO WOULD WANT 
TO TAKE OVER THE PARTY NOW?
>> Rosemary: THAT MIGHT BE A 
TWO-STEP PROCESS.
>> IT TAKES TWO OR THREE TRIES 
TO GET THE LEADER THAT GET YOU 
THERE.
>> YES, IT'S A STRONG BRAND, BUT
IT'S A NONEXISTENT BRAND IN A 
NUMBER OF PROVINCES WEST OF 
ONTARIO.
AND IT DOES EXIST, THE LIBERAL 
BRAND IN B.C., BUT IT'S THE 
CONSERVATIVE PARTY THAT BORROWED
THE NAME A COUPLE OF DECADES 
AGO, SO THERE IS CAUSE FOR WORRY
FOR THE LIBERALS.
>> Rosemary: A MINUTE LEFT, BUT 
THE ONE THING THAT YOU WOULD 
EXPECT TO SEE DOUG FORD DO 
FIRST.
I DON'T MEAN NAME A CAPTAIN, I 
MEAN A POLICY MOVE THAT MIGHT 
SHAKE THINGS UP?
>> MAYBE HYDRO ONE.
HE CAN DO THAT QUICKLY.
SOMETHING HE PROMISED THAT HE 
WOULD DO.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN 
CAMPAIGN THINGS.
>> Rosemary: FIRE EVERYBODY, 
BASICALLY.
>> ONE THING HE OUGHT TO DO IS 
BRING IN A NEW BUDGET.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME 
CUTTING SPENDING, BUT THEY 
BROUGHT IN A WHOLE RAFT OF NEW 
SPENDING AND IT'S IN THE 
CONSERVATIVE INTEREST TO STOP 
WHAT THEY CAN BEFORE IT GOES OUT
THE DOOR, RATHER THAN CUTTING 
PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY 
RECEIVING CHEQUES.
>> LET ME GO FOR THE EASY THING,
AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN QUÉBEC, 
BRING BEER TO CORNER STORES.
A PROMISE MADE IN THE 85 
CAMPAIGN BY SOMEONE CALLED DAVID
PETERSON.
>> Rosemary: [LAUGHTER] BUT WILL
IT COST A DOLLAR?
>> I DIDN'T SAY A DOLLAR BEER, I
JUST SAID BRING IT.
SOME OF US MANAGED TO SURVIVE A 
SOCIETY WITHOUT IT.
>> I REGRET EVERY DAY THAT I 
LEFT QUÉBEC FOR THAT REASON 
ALONE.
>> ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS,
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONTARIO IS 
OPEN FOR FUN AGAIN.
>> Rosemary: THAT IS SO 
UNEXPECTED FROM ANDREW COYNE.
"AT ISSUE" IS A PODCAST, YOU GET
EXTRA CONTENT AND THE MAIN PANEL
EVERY WEEK.
THIS WEEK, THE SENATE PASSED THE
CANNABIS BILL ACT WITH A FEW 
CHANGES.
WHAT IS NEXT ON THE ROAD TO 
LEGALIZING POT?
>> Ian: JUST AHEAD ON "THE 
NATIONAL", WE'LL TAKE YOU BACK 
TO QUÉBEC CITY, WHERE WE'RE IN 
THE MIDDLE OF GALE AND 
PROTESTERS GRAB THE EYES AND 
EARS OF LEADERS.
WE'LL ASK ABOUT THE MESSAGE AND 
TACTICS.
>> ATTENTION, ATTENTION, THIS 
HAS BEEN DECLARED UNLAWFUL.
>> IT'S A WAY OF FIGHTING BACK.
IT'S LEGITIMATE TO HAVE THOSE 
CONFRONTATIONS.
[ video game music and sounds ]
>> It took me
nine and a half years
to think of the big idea.
The big idea is
the software artist.
* 
>> It was an art form.
>> It was an artist's paradise.
>> It was the best game in town.
* 
>> There was these insane
artists who created experiences.
>> My goal was:
I wanna make games all-day long.
That's it, that's the goal.
>> Atari collapsed
because of greed.
* 
>> Ian: YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME 
OF THE WORLD 'MOST POWERFUL 
LEADERS.
WE CAN'T SEE THEM, THEY'RE 
SEALED AWAY.
AND IF YOU WERE THERE, THEY 
PROBABLY WOULDN'T SEE YOU.
THAT FRUSTRATES PROTESTERS AT 
SUMMITS LEEK THE G7, THEY'RE SO 
PROTECTED THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE
AN ACTIVIST MESSAGE IS GOING TO 
REACH THEM.
WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT 
DRIVES ACTIVISTS TO CHASE SUCH 
AN UNLIKELY GOAL.
>> THE GOAL OF THIS EARLY 
MORNING PROTEST WAS TO BLOCK 
MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS 
FROM GETTING TO THE SUMMIT SITE 
IN LA MALBAIE, BUT THERE WAS 
MEANT TO BE A BIGGER MESSAGE.
>> THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF 
ISSUES IN WHICH THE POOR OF THE 
WORLD, THE GLOBAL SOUTH AND THE 
POOR WITHIN CANADA AND THE U.S.,
ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND WOULD BE, 
YOU KNOW, NOT THE STRONGEST 
EXPRESSION I COULD USE.
>> THE MAIN REASON I AM HERE, IF
I CAN SAY, IS BECAUSE THE 
ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS RIGHT NOW 
WE ARE SEEING.
>> Ian: IN QUÉBEC CITY THIS 
MORNING, SCATTERED 
CONFRONTATIONS DREW LOTS OF 
CAMERAS, THOUGH THE MESSAGE WAS 
NOT IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS.
HERE, THE VENTLE VIBE OF THIS 
PICNIC WAS DIFFERENT.
MOST PEOPLE HERE WOULDN'T TALK 
TO REPORTERS.
TESSA, WHO ONLY GAVE US HER 
FIRST NAME, EXPLAINED WHY SHE 
MADE THE THREE-HOUR DRIVE TO BE 
HERE.
>> THE GOAL IS TO MAKE 
CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE AND 
START GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS 
AND TAKE MORE ACTIONS, DIRECT 
INCOMESES.
WHO KNOWS.
I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE 
CURRENT GOVERNMENT, WE'D LIKE TO
SEE CHANGES THERE.
IF WE CAN DISCUSS THE CHANGES 
TOGETHER, I THINK WE CAN COME UP
WITH GOOD ANSWERS.
>> Ian: THERE ARE SKIRMISHING 
GOING ON BETWEEN DIFFERENT 
PROTESTERS, AND RIOT POLICE, HOW
DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF
CONFRONTATIONS?
>> WELL, I MEAN I'M NOT 
PERSONALLY DOING THOSE THINGS 
RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ONE OF THE WAY OF FIGHTING 
BACK.
IN MY OPINION, IT'S LEGITIMATE 
TO HAVE THOSE CONFRONTATIONS 
WHEN LEGITIMATE.
SOLIDARITY TO THE PEOPLE ON THE 
FRONT LINE.
>> Ian: THESE YOUNG WOMEN FROM 
ACROSS CANADA WERE HOPING THEY 
WOULD GET LOTS OF ATTENTION.
IT'S SPONSORED BY THE CANADIAN 
CHARITY.
THEY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED 
FOR GIRLS TO GET AN EDUCATION.
NOT A LOT OF MEDIA, NOT A LOT OF
ATTENTION AND NO LEADERS.
WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK THIS IS
GOING TO HAVE?
>> WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE VIOLENT,
BUT SAY, THIS IS YOUR 
OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS YOUR 
LEGACY.
GIRLS CAN BE TURNED AROUND BY 
YOU.
EVEN THOUGH THERE AREN'T A LOT 
OF PEOPLE TODAY, THERE IS THE 
MEDIA, OUR VOICE, OUR MEDIA AND 
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE 
BACKING US UP.
>> Ian: IT'S NOT AN EASY THING 
GETTING YOUR MESSAGE ACROSS.
JUST ASK THE COUNCIL OF 
CANADIANS WHO CREATED THIS SIGN 
DESIGNED TO BE SEEN WHEN, OR 
MORE TO THE POINT, IF LEADERS 
FLEW BY.
>> PERHAPS ONE OF TWO OF THE 
LEADERS WILL GET TO SEE IT AT A 
CERTAIN POINT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THEY HEAR 
SOMETHING FROM CIVIL SOCIETY 
WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR PROTECTED 
PRIVILEGED MEETINGS.
>> Ian: AS UNUSUAL AS THAT SIGN 
WAS, THE BIGGEST SURPRISE FROM 
PROTESTERS TODAY WAS PROBABLY 
HOW QUIET IT WAS.
OUTNUMBERED IN QUÉBEC CITY BY 
THE MANY POLICE CLAD IN RIOT 
GEAR STANDING GUARD.
BOTH YOU AND I WERE HERE FOR THE
SUMMIT OF AMERICAS BACK IN 2001,
SO MUCH CHAOS ON THE STREETS.
IN THIS AREA AROUND THE HOTELS, 
CLOUDS OF TEAR GAS AND SO 
DIFFERENT THAT TIME AROUND.
>> Rosemary: IT'S SO UNUSUAL.
AND ACTUALLY QUITE SURPRISING IN
A GOOD WAY.
I REMEMBER NOT BEING ABLE TO 
WALK HOME BECAUSE OF THE PEPPER 
SPRAY IN THE AIR.
I'M GOING SEND YOU OFF, GO TO A 
RESTAURANT AND BE SAFE.
OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY" IS NEXT,
WE HEAR FROM A RESTAURANT CRITIC
FROM NORTH DAKOTA AFTER HER' 
VIEW OF THE OLIVE -- REVIEW OF 
THE OLIVE GARDEN.
>> IT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST 
HAPPENED, BUT ANTHONY BOURDAIN 
TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF
* 
>> I've been told a lot
that I have pretty eyes.
>> I would love for you to stay.
I mean, we're a family here.
>> For God's sake,
get away from the window.
Come in.
>> The block of wood is
over there so I asked it,
"What do you want to be?"
And poof.
>> I can't swim.
>> I am not funny.
>> I would like to help a cow
give birth to its calf.
>> Yeah, I think
we can help with that.
>> I think we can do that.
* 
>> Here we go!
* ["Love as a Weapon"
by Little Scream]
* just remember
* your greatest
gift is to dance *
* just remember
* your greatest
gift is to dance *
* so you take it back
* again to the side
* swing it to the right
* then you take it back
* again down lower
than you've ever been before *
* you push your man to the side
* fall down to the floor
* you pick yourself
* back up again
* and you walk
right through the door *
* looking at your lover 
[SIRENS]
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE 
NATIONAL," WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE 
ON GUATEMALA'S FUEGO VOLCANO 
AFTER ANOTHER ACTIVE DAY.
MORE EVACUATIONS WERE ORDERED 
AFTER IT AGAIN SPEWED LAVA AND 
ASH.
AT LEAST 109 PEOPLE HAVE DIED 
SINCE FUEGO BEGAN ERUPTING 
SUNDAY.
AND THAT NUMBER IS EXPECTED TO 
GO UP BECAUSE MANY ARE STILL 
MISSING.
>> WE TAKE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
REDUCE OUR IMPACT ON THE PLANET 
SERIOUSLY.
>> Andrew: THE LATEST COMPANY TO
TAKE UP THE WAR ON THE PLASTIC 
STRAW.
A & W CANADA MADE A PROMISE TO 
ELIMINATE THEM FROM THEIR 
RESTAURANTS.
THE PLAN IS TO TRANSITION THEIR 
1,000 RESTAURANTS TO BIO 
DEGRADABLE PAPER STRAWS.
THEY SAY IT WILL HAPPEN BY THE 
END OF THE YEAR.
>> I KNEW A COUPLE OF GUYS ON 
THE BUS.
IT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO DO FOR 
THEM AND THE PEOPLE OF HUMBOLDT.
>> Andrew: WHAT WILL BE A 
SPECIAL VISIT FOR A HOCKEY TOWN 
STRUCK BY TRAGEDY.
THAT WAS CHANDLER STEPHENSON 
SAYING HE HOPES TO BRING THE 
STANLEY CUP TO HUMBOLDT, 
SASKATCHEWAN.
AS IS TRADITION, EACH MEMBER OF 
THE TEAM GETS A DAY TO TAKE THE 
CUP TO THEIR HOMETOWN AND HE 
WANTS HIS DAY TO BE HUMBOLDT.
 >>> I WANT TO READ PART OF A 
VERY FAMOUS RESTAURANT REVIEW 
FOR YOU.
"THE CHICKEN ALFREDO WAS WARM 
AND COMFORTING ON A COLD DAY.
THE PORTION WAS GENEROUS.
MY SERVER WAS READY IN PARMESAN 
CHEESE."
THAT'S A SMALL PART OF A GLOWING
REVIEW WRITTEN BACK IN 2012 
ABOUT THE OLIVE GARDEN.
THAT REVIEW WAS MERCILESSLY 
MOCKED ON-LINE.
THE MAN THAT CAME TO THE DEFENCE
OF HER COLUMBUS -- ANTHONY 
BOURDAIN.
WE CAUGHT UP WITH HAGGARTY 
TODAY.
THAT'S OUR "MOMENT."
>> NEXT THING I KNOW, THEY WERE 
TELLING ME I WAS VIRAL.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT MEANT I 
WAS SICK.
WHEN ANTHONY BOURDAIN SAID THAT 
IT WAS OK, I THINK A LOT OF 
PEOPLE CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
I THINK HE WANTED TO KNOW IF I 
WAS KOOKIE OR NOT.
AFTER WE HAD COFFEE, HE ASKED IF
I WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER A 
COLLECTION OF MY COLUMNS.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN TOOK IT UPON 
HIMSELF TO BEFRIEND ME AND HE 
LIKED WHAT I WAS DOING.
TODAY, GREATLY SADDENED BY HIS 
DEATH.
>> Andrew: AND, ROSIE, IT WASN'T
JUST THE OLIVE GARDEN THAT SHE 
REVIEWED.
SHE REVIEWED THE K.F.C., TACO 
BELL, MCDONALD'S.
I READ THE REVIEWS, THEY'RE 
EARNEST, DETAILED, AND ANTHONY 
BOURDAIN THE KIND OF GUY THAT 
SAW VALUE IN THAT.
>> Rosemary: HE ALWAYS SAID, IT 
DIDN'T MATTER WHAT THE FOOD WAS,
BUT ABOUT THE CONTEXT, SITTING 
DOWN, BREAKING BREAD, AND 
SHARING THE EXPERIENCE, WHETHER 
IT BE TACO BELL OR THE OLIVE 
GARDEN.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR JUNE 
8.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
