Ok,thats'it    
sit if you want
I don't really know what I am going to do
How did you say I was painting?
That I paint "en recul"?
You seem to be into a dialogue
One feels a sort of dialogue going on with the painting
I mean... in your gesture, you seem
...to be looking for something.
Yes, I am waiting for the painting to tell me something
...and I will answer.
Well, now I am not starting from scratch.
I have to absorb what is there
and then, yes it is a dialogue with the painting.
I don't know what I am going to do.
It`s coming out bit by bit
You see... there are things, there are colors
 that I don't like and I change them
I still have no idea of what is going to happen,
I do not want to touch too much
after, I don't know.
Here I darken some areas which, I beleive, are too...
too light.
there is no philosophical judgement in this
You wanted to speak about DECONSTRUCTION?
Yes!
Because your work is only abstract
Yes... in fact I intend to avoid any recognizable form.
Why?
Because, when looking at abstract art,
 there is, in general, a tendency to recognize things.
and this is an automatism 
we have as we relate to the outside world
We systematically try to recognize things
to figure out how we are going to react
In this process which is cerebral and very quick...
I will sit here...
like this, when you answer, it will be more agreable
as you face the viewer.
So... DECONSTRUCTION...
...consist, precisely, in dissassembling these concepts
which are established and are conditioning...
...how we perceive and conceive the world,
our existence...
We have the habit to perceive the world
assuming it has a structure,
that the Universe is a project
...that there is a creator.
All this is inherited through our education,
religious, philosophical...
Yes, millenary...
Is it through DECONSTRUCTION that you explain
the total abstraction in your painting?
because...
the concrete, the represented...
does not give you the means to express
what you want to express? Isn't it?
What I intend to paint
is a...
...a mental state
which is intermediate between
what we call reality
and...
non-existence
Before things appear to us
as recognizable forms
what surges in the mind
are energies, movements, tendencies,
emotions, desires, fears...
And showing this is what you want 
to achieve through your painting work...
What I would like to achieve is to show
this intermediary state,
the moment before recognition takes place,
before the conditioned process of recognition
of objects, of things previously experienced
influenced by the past.
For example, when we dream,
we have emotional reactions,
tensions
even physically,
and at a certain moment when we recall the dream
we say "ah! I have dreamt this"
In fact we did not dreamt what we describe
what we experienced at the moment of dreaming
are the emotions which did not have a form then
the forms are attributed later to these emotions.
These emotions, these movements...etc...
are similar to shapes and colors in the painting
to which nothing can be associated
(which is what I intend to do)
But if one wishes one ends up recognizing things
a face here, what not?... 
a landscape
an object... yes, a landscape, here you see something...
Ok... this is the reflex
How to say?
which automatically 
creates some reality when we perceive something.
