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- Hello and welcome to Internet Roundup.
That's Josh in the plaid.
- Yeah.
- I'm Chuck.
- We got the big hands.
- I'm not sure what that means.
- There's some weird thing with the lens
that makes everything
from here down just giant.
- Oh, really?
- Especially if you go like,
"Hey, good to meet you."
- Is that why my belly looks so fat?
- That's--
- Don't answer that. (laughs)
- It's not the most
flattering camera lens of all.
- Oh, that's alright.
We're shooting in a room the
size of a refrigerator box.
- Dude, we got a lot of problems.
- (laughing) We sure do.
But a girl ain't one, right?
- No.
- [Chuck] Was that Jay-Z?
- Yeah.
- I don't even know that song.
- Jay-Z or the Beatles, one of the two.
(laughs)
- The Beatles had less than 99 problems.
- They had like zero.
- Zero problems.
So wow, what a great start.
Can't believe that this is actually
being broadcast somewhere, you know?
- (laughing) It's actually
being broadcast 33,000 feet
in the air, roughly 10 or 11,000 meters.
- Yeah.
- For non-Americans.
- Yeah, I have people from
my past, from my high school
and stuff, saying, "Boy,
I'm watching you on Delta."
And I say, "Listen to the podcast."
- I like, people like
these, these are fun.
They're kicky.
- Well, we certainly enjoy it.
- Yeah.
- So, what we do is we
round up the Internet,
two articles at a time.
And Josh found a really cool project
about recreating a Rembrandt.
- Yeah, and it's all over
the place, but I found it
on kottke.org, creator of
fine hypertext products.
Great blog.
- Yeah?
- Just a great blog.
The dude who runs it
really has a great mind.
But there was a project that
was just recently undertaken
with a group of people,
including Microsoft.
- Yeah.
- And the Rembrandt Museum and basically,
they set a computer up
in a room and went...
"Computer, make Rembrandt."
And the computer made Rembrandt.
(laughing)
- Yeah, it's pretty neat.
(stammers) It was a couple
of museums, ING, Microsoft,
and Delft University of Technology.
'Cause Microsoft didn't have the tech.
- [Josh] (chuckles) No.
- [Chuck] They had to outsource.
- [Josh] Or those were the interns
that actually carried out the stuff
that Microsoft is like, "Go do this."
- Yeah, so what they did was,
they designed an algorithm
to basically, they scanned
all these Rembrandts
and assigned an algorithm.
- 3-D scan, which is very important.
- What they said was,
"We wanted to basically create a machine
"that could create a Rembrandt."
- Yeah, and they did.
They did a lot of digital
analysis of I think
346 Rembrandt paintings to basically find
what makes a typical Rembrandt.
- [Chuck] Yeah.
- A Portrait.
And again, they pointed
at the computer and said,
"Machine make Rembrandt."
And the computer took
this analysis and fed it
to a 3-D printer and the thing
printed out an oil painting
that looks strikingly like a Rembrandt.
- Yeah, I think we should mention,
Rembrandt is a famous artist.
- (laughing) Oh yeah.
- And painter. (laughing)
- If you don't know
that, go back to sleep.
Take some Melatonin and
put the eye covers on.
- So, put some kiwi on there first.
- Hm, nice, you know
how to treat yourself.
- What they said was, they wanted to limit
the possible results.
They couldn't just say,
you know, any Rembrandt
'cause that would even confuse
their computer program.
- [Josh] Sure.
- So they said they wanted
to produce a portrait
of a Caucasian male.
- [Josh] Okay.
- Between 30 and 40, with facial hair.
- [Josh] Alright.
- Black clothes and a
white collar and a hat--
- So, any Rembrandt.
- Facing to the right, yeah, very much.
- I love Rembrandt's work.
I'm glad that they decided
to resurrect him digitally
from the dead.
- Yeah, and I'm not usually
into just portraits,
but something about that guy.
- Yeah, Rembrandt knew what he was doing.
He could really capture the gloom of life.
- Man, that should be under the masthead
of the Rembrandt museum.
- Okay.
- "That guy really knew
what he was doing."
(laughing)
- But in Dutch so it sounds awesome.
- So this things gonna go
on the road at some point.
- Oh, I hope so.
- Yeah, I don't know when.
I think they said sometime next year.
And it took two years to
complete the project called
The Next Rembrandt.
- [Josh] Yeah, that's the
name of the painting, right?
The Next Rembrandt, so you can expect tons
of new Rembrandts coming out now.
- [Chuck] Sure.
- [Josh] Why not?
- Maybe even one of us.
- Oh, that'd be cool.
- That would be very cool.
Alright, moving on.
AP Style alert.
This really excites some people.
- Man, it gets the
Internet going, for sure.
- Well, when we used to
do professional writing,
for the Internet, we got
copies of the AP Style book
when we got hired, remember that?
- [Josh] Yep.
- Tracy, our boss at the time, said,
"Here--
- "Learn it, live it."
- "This is how you write"
- Right.
- And for those of you that
don't know, the AP Style book
is just, it's a book of
standards for what to capitalize,
how to use punctuation.
- Yeah, have you ever noticed
that like any newspaper
you read in the United States
has the exact same format
for that kind of stuff.
- Any paper worth its salt.
- Because they're all, mostly all,
following the AP Style
Guide and it's basically
the AP just being arbiters of style.
- [Chuck] Yeah.
- And when we came on
and we started writing,
we used to have to write
'Web site' as two words
with Web capitalized.
Not all caps, though.
- I still do that but I don't have to.
- (laughing) Do you really?
- Oh yeah.
- Oh man, I dropped that long ago.
It used to drive me crazy.
I was like, "This is weird looking."
- Oh really?
- Yeah, Web site with a capital 'W'?
With two words is how you spell it?
- So you predated the style.
- That was it, yeah.
- [Chuck] You're the style master.
- I guess the AP just follows me around.
- So last year, a man
named Adam Nathaniel Peck,
an associate editor with The New Republic,
said, he made a big case for saying,
"We should not capitalize
internet or web,"
He said, "'cause people
don't think of those
"as proper nouns anymore."
- No, which is, I think, very much true.
Even though, you still, in
this article from Pointer
that you found, makes the case that,
"No, we still do think of the Internet
"as a proper noun-type thing."
- Because we say 'the'?
- [Josh] Yes.
- In front of it, yeah, mainly.
- Specifically, yeah, it's
because you call it 'The Internet'.
You're referring to 'The
Internet', the thing
even though the Internet
is actually an example
of something else that
there's other types of.
There are smaller internets.
- Yeah.
- It's computer networks
that talk to one another
that actually aren't The Internet.
- Internetwork is what it originally was,
it was shortened to internet.
- Right, and it's just a
bunch of computer networks
talking to one another, right?
- Crazy.
- But the Internet is the
largest version of it.
And it really should be capitalized still.
But everybody's kind of saying like,
"Let's, we're goin' democratization.
"And we're even taking
the capital 'D' away
"from democracy, so let's
just lower case everything."
- Yeah.
- It just looks nicer.
- I'm just gonna start
saying, "Internet," though.
- Well, that's the thing, like you said.
I mean, the fact that
we say, "The Internet,"
means that we should...
We're talking about something specific
and so it should be capitalized, but...
- So ask me where I sent you
a cool article and ask me
where I found it.
- Where'd you find this article, Chuck?
- I just looked it up on internet.
(laughs)
You like that?
- I do.
- I found it on internet.
- You found it on skynet.
- That makes it sound like
internet is your little friend.
- [Josh] Right.
- I found it on internet.
- Internet gave it to me.
- That's like Arrested Development when
Buster would say 'army'
and not 'the army'.
(laughing)
When I was in army.
(laughing)
Alright, well, do you have
anything else for that?
- I, no, I'm glad that the
internet's going to lowercase.
- Well, I support anything internet does.
'Cause internet is my friend.
- Well, whether you found
us on Delta or on internet,
we're glad you did.
Alright, thanks for joining us, right?
- Yeah, have a great day
and we'll see you next time
on Internet Roundup.
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