NEW JERSEY IS AT 18,000.
THAT'S GOVERNOR PHIL MURPHY, A 
GREAT PARTNER TO ME, PEOPLE OF 
THE STATE.
GOVERNOR LAMONT, A GREAT 
PARTNER.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK AS A 
REGION, WHICH IS UNUSUAL.
THOSE LINES BETWEEN STATES OFTEN
BECOME WALLS.
NOT WITH GOVERNOR MURPHY AND NOT
WITH GOVERNOR LAMENT.
WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AND WE'RE
GOING TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH
NEW JERSEY.
MICHIGAN IS TICKING UP.
FLORIDA IS EVEN TICKING UP.
MASSACHUSETTS.
BUT NO ONE IS ANYWHERE NEAR 
WHERE WE ARE.
NUMBER OF DEATHS, 1900 UP FROM 
1550.
THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GO 
UP.
THAT IS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ON 
VENTILATORS FOR A PERIOD OF 
TIME.
IF YOU GO ON A VENTILATOR, 
THERE'S ROUGHLY ONLY A 20% 
CHANCE THAT YOU WILL COME OFF 
THE VENTILATOR.
THE LONGER YOU'RE ON THE 
VENTILATOR, THE LOWER THE CHANCE
YOU COME OFF.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR A CURVE.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO SEE WHERE
WE HIT THE PLATEAU.
TOTAL NUMBER HOSPITALIZED.
AGAIN, YOU SEE THE NUMBER GOES 
UP AND DOWN BUT THE OVERALL 
TRAJECTORY OF THE NUMBER IS UP.
CHANGING ICU ADMISSIONS, BOUNCE 
HERE, BOUNCE THERE, BUT THE 
OVERALL NUMBER IS STILL UP.
CHANGE IN INTUBATIONS, SAME 
THING.
THE LINE IS BASICALLY A LINE 
THAT IS GOING UP.
CHANGE IN NUMBER OF DISCHARGED, 
THE LINE IS GOING UP.
WHY?
MORE PEOPLE GOING IN, MORE 
PEOPLE TREATED, MORE PEOPLE 
COMING OUT.
EVERYONE ASKS THE SAME QUESTIONS
AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS,
WHEN IS THIS GOING TO BE OVER?
WHAT HAPPENS?
HOW DOES IT END?
AND PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WANT 
ANSWERS.
I WANT ANSWERS.
BUT THE ANSWER IS NOBODY KNOWS 
FOR SURE.
ANYONE WHO GOES ON CABLE TV AND 
SAYS -- OR NETWORK TV AND SAYS 
THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN,
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO 
HAPPEN.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR 
CLOSURE, THE NEED FOR CONTROL.
WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE'VE 
NEVER BEEN BEFORE.
WE'RE OUT OF CONTROL.
I NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW.
NOBODY CAN TELL YOU.
WHAT YOU DO KNOW ARE FACTS.
AND YOU KNOW, FACTS ARE FUNNY 
THINGS.
WHAT YOU'RE NOW GETTING ARE 
SUBJECTIVE FACTS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE OPTIMISTS WANT TO
INTERPRET IT ONE WAY.
PEOPLE WHO ARE PESSIMISTS WANT 
TO INTERPRET IT THE OTHER WAY.
PEOPLE WHO BRING THEIR OWN 
SUBJECTIVE
INTERPRET THE NUMBERS A 
DIFFERENT WAY.
FOR ME, FACTS ARE FACTS.
THE FACTS THAT WE OFFER THE 
PEOPLE OF THIS STATE AND THE 
PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE
NOT PESSIMISTIC FACTS OR 
OPTIMISTIC FACTS.
THEY ARE NOT
THEY ARE JUST THE BEST 
INFORMATION WE HAVE AS OF THIS 
TIME.
I THINK THAT IS EMPOWERING AND 
IN SOME WAYS RELAXING.
AS I MENTIONED TO YOU WHO WORK 
WITH ME, I SAY TO MY TEAM ALL 
THE TIME, I DON'T -- I'M 
INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION, BUT 
I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION 
SECOND.
I'M INTERESTED IN THE FACTS 
FIRST.
GIVE ME THE FACTS UNJADED BY 
YOUR OPINION.
BECAUSE ONCE A PERSON HAS AN 
OPINION, OR ONCE A PERSON WANTS 
A CERTAIN OUTCOME, AND THEY LOOK
AT THE FACTS THROUGH THAT 
FILTER, THEN YOU CAN INTERPRET 
FACTS DIFFERENTLY.
JUST GIVE ME THE STRAIGHT FACTS.
SERGEANT JOE FRIDAY, JUST THE 
FACTS, MA'AM, JUST THE FACTS.
NO OPINION.
THERE'S SOMETHING EMPOWERING TO 
THAT.
WE LOOK FOR THE FACTS TO 
PROJECTION MODELS.
THAT'S HOW WE GAUGE WHAT WE DO.
WE FOLLOW THE PROJECTION MODEL.
EVERY DAY YOU GET ADDITIONAL 
DATA, THEY RUN THAT DATA INTO 
THE MODEL, AND THEY REFINE THE 
MODEL.
BASICALLY WE HAVE A COMPOSITE 
MODEL BECAUSE OF MANY DIFFERENT 
PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH MANY 
DIFFERENT MODELS, WE USE 
MAKENZIE, A CONSULTANT TO THE 
STATE FOR THIS PURPOSE, TO 
BASICALLY LOOK AT ALL THE MODELS
AND COME UP WITH A COMPOSITE 
MODEL.
IF PEOPLE WONDER WHERE DO YOU 
GET THESE NUMBERS, GOVERNOR, 
WHERE DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU 
DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, 
WE HAVE A MODEL.
WE HAVE A PROJECTION, AND THAT'S
WHAT WE FOLLOW.
THE CURRENT MODEL -- AND MODEL, 
BY THE WAY, EVEN MORE MADDENING,
THE MODEL CHANGES THE MORE DATA 
THAT COMES IN.
THEY STARTED WITH ASSUMPTIONS, 
THE MODELS THAT COME IN AFFIRMS 
OR DISCOUNTS THEIR PRESUMPTIONS 
THEY STARTED WITH.
SO THEY REFINE THE MODEL OVER 
TIME AND THE MODEL CHANGES AND 
THE NUMBER CHANGES.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS 
APEX, TOP OF THE CURVE, ROUGHLY 
AT THE END OF APRIL, WHICH MEANS
ANOTHER MONTH OF THIS.
THE APEX, THE RECENT NUMBER IS 
YOU COULD NEED 110,000 COVID 
BEDS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
BEDS FOR COVID PEOPLE IN THE 
HOSPITAL FOR WHATEVER REASON, 
37,000 VENTILATORS.
THAT MODEL IS BASED ON 
MINIMUM -- MINIMAL IMPACT FROM 
SOCIAL DISTANCING, MEANING WHAT?
ONE OF THE GREAT VARIABLES IS 
HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE SOCIAL 
DISTANCING.
ARE PEOPLE DOING IT?
ARE THEY COMPLYING WITH IT?
HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT?
NOBODY KNOWS THAT ANSWER.
THEY DO DIFFERENT PROJECTIONS 
DEPENDING ON HOW WELL SOCIAL 
DISTANCING WORKS, HOW WELL 
PEOPLE COMPLY WITH IT AND HOW 
EFFECTIVE IT IS.
MINIMAL SOCIAL DISTANCING IMPACT
IS WHERE WE GET 110,000, 37,000 
VENTILATORS.
HIGH COMPLIANCE WITH SOCIAL 
DISTANCING, YOU STILL HAVE 
75,000 COVID BEDS AS OPPOSED TO 
110, 25,000 VENTILATORS.
OKAY?
SO WHEN I KEEP PUSHING FOR HIGH 
COMPLIANCE ON SOCIAL DISTANCING,
IT'S BECAUSE HIGH COMPLIANCE ON 
SOCIAL DISTANCING WILL REDUCE 
THE NUMBER.
THIS IS WHAT THEY BEGAN TALKING 
ABOUT.
FLATTEN THE CURVE, FLATTEN THE 
CURVE, FLATTEN THE CURVE WITH 
SOCIAL DISTANCING.
THIS SAYS THIS THE DIFFERENCE 
BETWEEN HIGH COMPLIANCE WITH 
SOCIAL DISTANCING AND LESS 
COMPLIANCE.
IF YOU HAVE HIGH COMPLIANCE, 
.[ TO 75,000 COVID 
BEDS, 27,000 VENTILATORS.
LESS, IT GOES UP TO 110 AND 37.
INTERESTINGLY, BOTH ARE LOOKING 
AT THE SAME POINT OF APEX, IT'S 
JUST A LOWER APEX.
BOTH MODELS SAY YOU APEX AT THE 
END OF APRIL, JUST LOWER -- A 
LOWER NEED AT THAT APEX.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT, BECAUSE 
THIS ALL COMES DOWN TO AT THE 
APEX, CAN YOUR HOSPITAL SYSTEM 
MANAGE THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE 
COMING INTO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM.
THAT'S ALL THIS IS ABOUT AT THE 
FINAL ANALYSIS.
NOW, THERE ARE ALSO DIFFERENT 
MODELS OUT THERE, BASED ON 
DIFFERENT PRESUMPTIONS.
PEOPLE STUDIED CHINA, PEOPLE 
STUDIED WUHAN.
IF YOU HAD THE SAME COMPLIANCE 
YOU HAD IN WUHAN.
WUHAN BASICALLY JUST LOCKED UP 
SOCIETY.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ENACTED THE WUHAN 
MODEL THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 
WOULD COMPLY.
WE HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT 
SOCIAL STRUCTURE, GOVERNMENTAL 
STRUCTURE.
SO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS 
THAT PROJECT HIGHER OR LOWER.
MACKENZIE IS STUDYING ALL OF 
THEM AND COMING UP WITH A 
MODERATE MODEL FOR MAKING 
PLANNING DECISIONS, BECAUSE I 
HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS.
I WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS OFF THE
NUMBERS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 
DOING.
NOT TO SAY THERE AREN'T OTHER 
PEOPLE WITH OTHER OPINIONS.
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WITH 
OPINIONS.
SOME HAVE THE APEX HAPPENING 
SOONER, SOME HAVE THE APEX 
HAPPENING LATER.
YOU CAN FIND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE 
THE APEX WILL COME IN SEVEN 
DAYS.
YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHO SAY THE 
APEX WON'T COME FOR SIX WEEKS.
YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF RANGE.
YOU HAVE A BROAD RANGE ON THE 
NUMBER OF BEDS.
YOU HAVE A BROAD RANGE ON THE 
NUMBER OF VENTILATORS.
OUR COURSE, FOR PLANNING 
PURPOSES, IS A MODERATE MODEL, 
BECAUSE IN TRUTH THE HIGHER 
MODELS, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A 
CHANCE AT MEETING THAT CAPACITY 
ANYWAY.
YOU SAY OVER 110,000 BEDS.
THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY WE 
COULD GET THERE.
SO IN SOME WAYS, AN OVERLY 
AGGRESSIVE ESTIMATE DOESN'T EVEN
MEAN ANYTHING TO US, BECAUSE 
IT'S JUST UNACHIEVABLE.
PEOPLE ASK, WELL, WHAT'S GOING 
TO HAPPEN.
DR. FAUCI SAID YESTERDAY, THE 
DAY BEFORE -- THE DAYS BLEND 
TOGETHER -- ESTIMATED 100,000 
AMERICANS MAY PASS AWAY.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID 100 TO 
200,000 AMERICANS MAY PASS AWAY 
BEFORE THIS IS OVER.
WHEN IS IT OVER?
WHEN YOU ACHIEVE WHAT THEY CALL 
HERD IMMUNITY.
HOW DO YOU SAY 100 TO 200.
THAT'S A BROAD RANGE.
WELL, IT GOES BACK TO THE OTHER 
POINT.
NOBODY REALLY KNOWS.
BUT 100 TO 200, YOU'RE SAYING A 
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE 
LOSE THEIR LIVES.
THERE IS A GROUP THAT IS FUNDED 
BY THE GATES FOUNDATION -- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, BILL GATES -- 
THAT PROJECTS 93,000 AMERICANS 
WILL LOSE THEIR LIFE BY THE TIME
THIS IS OVER.
THAT MODEL SUGGESTS 16,000 NEW 
YORKERS WILL PASS AWAY BY THE 
TIME THIS RUNS ITS COURSE.
MY GUESS IS SO WHEN DR. FAUCI 
SAYS 100,000, THERE ARE MODELS 
OUT THERE THAT MAKE THESE TYPES 
OF PROJECTIONS.
WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN TO NEW 
YORK?
THAT WOULD MEAN ABOUT 16,000.
FRANKLY THAT WOULD MEAN THAT NEW
YORK IS ONLY 16% ROUGHLY OF THE 
NUMBER OF DEATHS.
I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT, 
SINCE NEW YORK IS SO MUCH HIGHER
RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHAT THAT DOES SAY TO THE 
REST OF THE NATION IS THIS IS 
NOT JUST NEW YORK.
IF YOU BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS, 
16,000 DEATHS IN NEW YORK, THAT 
MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TENS 
OF THOUSANDS OF DEATHS OUTSIDE 
OF NEW YORK.
SO TO THE EXTENT PEOPLE WATCH 
THEIR NIGHTLY NEWS IN KANSAS AND
SAY THIS IS A NEW YORK PROBLEM, 
THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE NUMBERS 
SAY.
IT SAYS IT'S A NEW YORK PROBLEM 
TODAY.
TOMORROW IT'S A KANSAS PROBLEM 
AND A TEXAS PROBLEM AND A NEW 
MEXICO PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHY I SAY TO MY FELLOW 
GOVERNORS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS 
ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, LOOK AT
US TODAY, SEE YOURSELF TOMORROW.
AND LET'S ADDRESS IT IN NEW 
YORK, AND LET'S COOPERATE TO 
ADDRESS IT IN NEW YORK, BECAUSE 
IT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR TOWN 
TOMORROW, METAPHORICALLY.
AND IF WE LEARN HOW TO DO IT 
RIGHT HERE, LEARN HOW TO DO IT 
THE BEST WE CAN, BECAUSE THERE 
IS NO RIGHT, IT'S ONLY THE BEST 
WE CAN, THEN WE CAN WORK 
COOPERATIVELY ALL ACROSS THIS 
COUNTRY.
THE OTHER THING THIS MODEL SAYS,
PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHEN IS IT 
OVER?
TWO WEEKS?
THREE WEEKS?
FOUR WEEKS?
THIS MODEL PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE A HIGH DEATH RATE 
THROUGH JULY.
IF THIS MODEL IS CORRECT, THIS 
COULD GO THROUGH THE SUMMER.
NOW, OTHER PEOPLE TALK ABOUT 
GETTING BACK TO WORK, STARTING 
THE ECONOMY, APRIL, MAY, JUNE.
THIS MODEL SAYS IT COULD GO ON 
THROUGH JULY.
NOW THE QUESTIONS BECOME 
NUANCED.
WELL, COULD YOU STILL BE DEALING
WITH THE VIRUS AND GET THE 
ECONOMY UP AND RUNNING AND GET 
PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES?
YES, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO 
DO BOTH.
NOT PICKING BETWEEN HUMAN LIFE 
AND THE DOLLAR BILL, BECAUSE NO 
ONE IS GOING TO PICK A DOLLAR 
BILL OVER HUMAN LIFE.
BUT CAN YOU COME UP WITH A 
PUBLIC HEALTH STRATEGY THAT IS 
CONSISTENT WITH PEOPLE GETTING 
OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND STARTING 
TO GET BACK TO WORK?
YES, YOU CAN.
MY OPINION IS THE BEST WAY TO DO
THAT IS TO COME UP WITH A RAPID 
TESTING PROCEDURE WHERE PEOPLE 
CAN TEST.
THEY KNOW WHO IS POSITIVE.
THEY KNOW WHO IS NEGATIVE.
THEY KNOW WHO CAN GO BACK TO 
WORK AND COME UP WITH A TEST 
QUICKLY AND STARTING, READILY 
AVAILABLE, THAT PEOPLE CAN DO AT
HOME SO YOU CAN TAKE THE TEST, 
KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, AND WE CAN 
START ENDING THIS TERRIBLE 
SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.
ALSO, YOU COME UP WITH TESTING 
AND RAPID TESTING, NOT ONLY DO 
YOU GET UP AND UNDER THE 
CIRCUMSTANCES THE ECONOMY 
RUNNING, YOU END THE ANXIETY.
THE ANXIETY IS WHAT IS MOST 
OPPRESSIVE HERE.
NOT KNOWING.
NOT KNOWING IF I'M POSITIVE, IF 
MY FRIEND IS POSITIVE, IF MY 
LOVED ONE IS POSITIVE.
NOT KNOWING WHEN THIS IS GOING 
TO END.
THE ANXIETY WITH DEALING WITH 
THIS ISOLATION DAY AFTER DAY 
AFTER DAY, IT'S LIKE A BAD 
GROUNDHOG MOVIE.
DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY.
WHEN DOES IT END?
HOW DOES IT END?
I DON'T KNOW.
I'M OUT OF CONTROL.
I THINK THE TESTING IS GOING TO 
BE THE BEST MECHANISM TO TRY TO 
WORK THROUGH THAT.
ON THE GOOD NEWS FRONT, WE HAVE 
NEW TESTING IN NEW YORK, 
REGENERON, A GREAT NEW YORK 
COMPANY, 500 TESTING KITS AT NO 
CHANGE, THANK YOU, AND THEY ARE 
DISTRIBUTING THEM ACROSS THE 
STATE.
CORNING, ANOTHER GREAT COMPANY 
DONATED 100,000 TUBES AND $5,000
AT REDUCED COST.
NEW YORK IS AGGRESSIVE ON 
TESTING.
WE HAVE BEEN FROM DAY ONE.
WE THINK THAT HAS HELPED US SLOW
THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.
MY FAVORITE TOPIC, YOUNG PEOPLE 
MUST GET THIS MESSAGE, AND THEY 
STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE 
MESSAGE.
YOU STILL SEE TOO MANY 
SITUATIONS WITH TOO MUCH DENSITY
BY YOUNG PEOPLE.
THEY CAN GET IT.
THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT 
RISK.
THIS CAN KILL YOUNG PEOPLE, RARE
CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IT CAN, BUT 
YOU GET INFECTED, YOU GIVE IT TO
SOMEONE ELSE.
SO THINK ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE.
I'VE SAID THIS 100 DIFFERENT 
WAYS, THE COMPLIANCE IS STILL 
NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
YOU SAW THE MODELS ON THE 
DIFFERENTIAL IN THE COMPLIANCE 
VERSUS MAJOR COMPLIANCE AND 
MINOR COMPLIANCE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE MORE 
DRAMATIC ACTIONS.
WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE DOWN THE 
NEW YORK CITY PLAYGROUNDS.
I TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR WEEKS.
I WARNED PEOPLE IF THEY DIDN'T 
STOP THE DENSITY AND THE GAMES 
IN THE PLAYGROUNDS -- YOU CAN'T 
PLAY BASKETBALL.
YOU CAN'T COME IN CONTACT WITH 
EACH OTHER.
THAT WE WOULD CLOSE THE 
PLAYGROUNDS.
I SPOKE TO SPEAKER JOHNSON FROM 
NEW YORK CITY WHO FEELS VERY 
STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.
L■ ONE.FROM DAYx
WE AGREED INITIALLY WITH THE 
MAYOR WE WOULD TRY COMPLIANCE, 
TRY WITH NYPD TO FORCE 
COMPLIANCE, SOCIAL DISTANCING IN
PLAYGROUNDS.
IT IS STILL A PROBLEM.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SPEAKER, 
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MAYOR.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE DOWN 
THE CITY PLAYGROUNDS AND LEAVE 
THE OPEN SPACES AVAILABLE.
SO USE THE OPEN SPACE IN A MARK.
WALK AROUND, GET SOME SUN.
GREAT.
NO DENSITY.
NO BASKETBALL GAMES.
NO CLOSE CONTACT.
NO VIOLATION OF SOCIAL 
DISTANCING, PERIOD.
THAT'S THE RULE.
OTHER GOOD NEWS, WE ARE WORKING 
WITH ALL THE HOSPITALS IN THE 
STATE TO DO SOMETHING THEY HAVE 
NEVER DONE BEFORE, WHICH IS TO 
ACT AS ONE TO COOPERATE, TO 
SHARE SUPPLIES, SHARE STAFF, 
SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, SHIFT 
PATIENTS AMONG HOSPITALS, WHICH 
REALLY HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ANY
GREAT EXTENT.
AND THE HOSPITALS HAVE BEEN VERY
COOPERATIVE, AND I WANT TO THANK
THEM VERY MUCH.
IN THIS WAR, WE MUST PLAN 
FORWARD FOR THE NEXT BATTLE.
MEANING WE HAVE BEEN BEHIND FROM
DAY ONE.
THIS VIRUS HAS BEEN AHEAD OF US 
FROM DAY ONE.
YOU DON'T WIN A WAR THAT WAY.
THE NEXT BATTLE IS THE APEX.
THE NEXT BATTLE IS ON THE TOP OF
THE MOUNTAIN.
SEE THAT CURVE?
YOU SEE A CURVE, I SEE A 
MOUNTAIN.
THE NEXT BATTLE WILL HAPPEN AT 
THE TOP OF THAT MOUNTAIN.
THAT'S WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE 
JOINED.
THAT'S WHERE THE ENEMY EITHER 
OVERWHELMS OUR HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM OR WE ARE ABLE TO HANDLE 
THE ONSLAUGHT OF THE ENEMY, AT 
THE TOP OF THAT MOUNTAIN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR 
EVERY DAY.
BUT I WANT TO OFFER YOU A 
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M 
STARTING TO THINK ABOUT, AND I 
THINK WE ALL SHOULD START TO 
THINK ABOUT.
AS A SOCIETY, BEYOND JUST THIS 
IMMEDIATE SITUATION, WE SHOULD 
START LOOKING FORWARD TO 
UNDERSTAND HOW THIS EXPERIENCE 
IS GOING TO CHANGE US OR HOW IT 
SHOULD CHANGE US, BECAUSE THIS 
IS GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE.
IT'S GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE 
ON A PERSONAL BASIS, ON A SOCIAL
BASIS, ON A SYSTEMS BASIS.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME
AGAIN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORGET WHAT 
HAPPENED HERE.
THE FEAR THAT WE HAVE, THE 
ANXIETY THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S NOT
GOING TO JUST GO AWAY.
WHEN DO WE GET BACK TO NORMAL?
I DON'T THINK WE GET BACK TO 
NORMAL.
I THINK WE GET BACK OR GET TO A 
NEW NORMAL, RIGHT, LIKE WE SEE 
IN SO MANY FACETS OF SOCIETY 
RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WILL BE AT A DIFFERENT 
PLACE.
OUR CHALLENGE IS TO MAKE SURE 
THAT TRANSFORMATION AND THAT 
CHANGE IS POSITIVE AND NOT 
NEGATIVE.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING THE
POSITIVE LESSON AND NOT THE 
NEGATIVE LESSON.
YOU COULD GET WARY OF INTIMACY 
AND CONTACT AND DENSITY.
SOCIAL DISTANCING, DON'T GO NEAR
ANYONE.
WHAT A TERRIBLE THING TO LIVE 
WITH AS A HUMAN BEING.
WHAT A CRUEL TORTURE.
ISOLATE YOURSELF FROM OTHER 
PEOPLE.
BE AFRAID OF HUGGING SOMEONE.
JUST THINK HOW EMOTIONALLY AND 
PERSONALLY REPUGNANT THAT IS.
WE CRAVE HUMAN CONNECTION.
NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD, THAT COULD
BE DANGEROUS.
YOU CAN'T KISS, YOU CAN'T HUG, 
YOU CAN'T HOMELAND HANDS.
SO HOW WE COME OUT OF THIS AND 
MAKING SURE THAT IT'S POSITIVE 
AND NOT NEGATIVE.
HOW DO WE LEARN FROM THIS AND 
HOW DO WE GROW FROM THIS.
RIGHT?
SOCIETY LIFE, YOU WILL GET 
KNOCKED ON YOUR REAR END.
YOU WILL DEAL WITH PAIN.
YOU WILL DEAL WITH DEATH.
YOU WILL DEAL WITH SETBACK.
YOU WILL DEAL WITH SUFFERING.
THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GET 
UP.
FIRST, DO YOU GET UP.
SECOND, IF YOU GET UP, HOW DO 
YOU GET UP?
DO YOU GET UP SMARTER?
DO YOU GET UP WISER, OR DO YOU 
GET UP BITTER AND DO YOU GET UP 
ANGRY.
DO YOU GET UP FEARFUL.
WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THAT.
WE HAVE TO START TO THINK ABOUT 
THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE TO BE SMARTER FROM 
WHAT WE WENT THROUGH.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE ECONOMY MORE
RESILIENT?
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE
THIS HAPPENS AGAIN?
AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL 
HAPPEN AGAIN.
OH, NO.
THIS IS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME 
NEVER AGAIN.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN 
AGAIN.
WE'RE SEEING IT IN THE 
ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE SEEING IT WITH FLOODS.
WE'RE SEEING IT WITH HURRICANES.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN 
AGAIN.
YOU CAN'T JUST TURN OFF THE 
ECONOMY LIKE A LIGHTj>
HOW DO GOVERNMENTS WORK 
TOGETHER?
YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT ON THE 
FLY, WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
DOES, STATE GOVERNMENT DOES, 
WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO, 
FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE.
LEARN LESSONS FROM THIS.
TELEMEDICINE AN TELE-EDUCATION.
WE HAD TO CLOSE THE SCHOOLS.
WHY WEREN'T WE READY WITH A 
TELE-EDUCATION SYSTEM?
WHY WEREN'T WE BETTER AT 
TELEMEDICINE?
WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT 
CAPACITY, RATHER THAN WAIT ON 
PEOPLE TO COME IN WITH THE LINES
TO GET THE SAME BASIC DIAGNOSIS 
AND SAME BASIC DEVICE.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE MEDICAL 
SUPPLIES MADE IN THIS COUNTRY?
WHY ARE WE SHOPPING IN CHINA FOR
BASIC MEDICAL SUPPLIES?
WHY DON'T WE GEAR OUR MEDICAL 
RESEARCH TO THESE TYPES OF 
THREATS AND CHALLENGES, WHICH WE
KNOW ARE ON THE HORIZON.
WE KNOW THESE VIRUSES ARE 
CHANGING.
WE KNOW THAT THEY MUTATE.
WHY DON'T WE GET AHEAD OF IT?
YOU STILL HAVE TO RUN SOCIETY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT FIRST RESPONDER
CAPACITY.
WE NOW HAVE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO
ARE GETTING SICK.
AND THE WORKFORCE IS DROPPING.
THAT WAS INEVITABLE.
THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
WHAT'S THE BACK-UP TO THAT 
SITUATION?
LET'S TALK ABOUT SOCIETAL 
STABILITY AND ENGAGEMENT IN 
TIMES OF CRISIS.
YOU CAN'T JUST TELL EVERYONE GO 
HOME AND LOCK YOUR DOORS AND SIT
ON YOUR COUCH AND ORDER TAKEOUT 
FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE.
IT'S NOT EVEN A MENTAL HEALTH 
ISSUE.
IT'S JUST A PERSONAL HEALTH 
ISSUE.
IT'S HOW WE -- HOW WE RELATE TO 
ONE ANOTHER.
WE'RE NOT BUILT TO BE ISOLATED 
FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME AND NOT
HAVE HUMAN CONTACT.
SO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT?
THESE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS
THAT WE HAVE TO START TO THINK 
THROUGH.
BUT NOT TODAY.
THAT IS THE NEXT CHALLENGE, I 
BELIEVE.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO THINK ABOUT SOON.
FOR NOW, ONE CRISIS AT A TIME, 
AS THEY SAY.
WE ARE PLANNING TO HANDLE THE 
CURRENT CRISIS, PREPARING FOR 
THE BATTLE ON THE MOUNT, WHICH 
IS WHAT WE ARE DOING EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.
AND NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING IT, 
BUT WE HAVE TO SUCCEED AT IT, 
YOU KNOW. GOVERNMENT PROCESS IS 
VERY GOOD AT SAYING, WELL, WE'RE
TRYING.
WE'RE WORKING ON THIS.
WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.
WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.
WINSTON CHURCHILL, NO USING 
SAYING WE'RE DOING OUR BEST, YOU
HAVE TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY.
TAD HAMP GOES WITH THAT 
EXPRESSION.
A TAD HARSH BUT TRUE.
THAT'S WHAT I SAY TO MY TEAM 
EVERY DAY.
THIS IS BEYOND BEST EFFORTS.
THIS IS BEYOND I'M WORKING VERY 
HARD.
WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE.
WE HAVE TO SUCCEED.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY.
WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BECAUSE TOO MUCH IS AT STAKE.
LAST POINT ON A PERSONAL NOTE, 
MY BROTHER CHRISTOPHER, AS I 
TOLD YOU YESTERDAY, TESTED 
POSITIVE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS.
HE'S AT HOME.
HE'S DOING FINE ENOUGH.
HE HAS A FEVER.
HE HAS CHILLS, SYMPTOMS OF 
BASICALLY A VERY BAD FLU.
BUT I WANT -- I THINK THIS IS 
ILLUSTRATIVE IN A NUMBER OF 
WAYS.
FIRST OF ALL, ANYONE CAN GET 
THIS DISEASE.
RELATIVELY YOUNG PEOPLE, STRONG 
PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO TAKE A LOT OF
VITAMIN PILLS, PEOPLE WHO GO TO 
THE GYM A LOT.
ANYONE CAN GET THIS DISEASE.
THERE IS NO SUPERHERO WHO IS 
IMMUNE FROM THIS DISEASE.
THAT GOES FOR NEW YORKER AS WELL
AS A TEXAN AS WELL AS A 
CALIFORNIAN.
ANYTHING CAN GET IT.
NO ONE CAN BE PROTECTED FROM IT.
I COULDN'T PROTECT MY OWN 
BROTHER, WITH ALL HE KNOWS AND 
AS SMART AS HE IS, HE COULDN'T 
PROTECT HIMSELF.
SO ANYONE CAN GET IT AND 
EVERYONE HAS TO BE PROTECTED.
I UNDERSTAND THE DATA.
I UNDERSTAND 80% SELF-RESOLVE, 
20% GO IN THE HOSPITALS.
CHRISTOPHER IS NOT IN THE 
CATEGORY THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.
BY ALL THE DATA, HE SHOULD HAVE 
IT, HAVE IT FOR A PERIOD OF 
TIME, AND HE WILL THEN RESOLVE, 
IF HE HAS BAD SYMPTOMS HE'LL GO 
TO THE HOSPITAL.
HE'LL BE TREATED AND HE'LL BE 
RELEASED.
THAT'S WHAT ALL THE NUMBERS SAY.
EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT ALL THE 
NUMBERS SAY, WHEN HE TOLD ME HE 
HAD THE CORONAVIRUS, IT SCARED 
ME.
IT FRIGHTENED ME.
WHY?
BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW.
EVEN IF THERE'S JUST A 1%, 2% 
CHANCE, IT'S FRIGHTENING.
IT IS FRIGHTENING.
IT FRIGHTENED ME.
I DEAL WITH ALL SORTS OF STUFF, 
AND I'VE SEEN ALL SORTS OF 
THINGS.
WHY?
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MY 
BROTHER, MY LITTLE BROTHER.
THIS IS MY BEST FRIEND.
I TALK TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES A 
DAY, BASICALLY SPEND MY WHOLE 
LIFE WITH HIM.
IT'S FRIGHTENING ON A 
FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL.
IT'S FRIGHTENING BECAUSE THERE'S
NOTHING I CAN DO.
I'M OUT OF CONTROL.
THERE'S NOBODY WHO CAN TELL ME.
DOCTORS CAN'T TELL ME ANYTHING.
TONY FAUCI CAN'T TELL ME 
ANYTHING, BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY 
KNOWS.
THIS SITUATION IS THE SAME 
SITUATION FOR EVERYONE, FOR 
EVERYONE.
SO YES.
I'M FRIGHTENED FOR MY BROTHER.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY BROTHER, AS
EVERYONE IS WORRIED ABOUT 
EVERYONE IN THEIR FAMILY AND 
EVERYBODY THEY LOVE.
I TAKE SOLACE IN THE NUMBERS AND
THE FACTS, BECAUSE OF COURSE 
YOURSELF FROM THE FACTS, 
OTHERWISE YOU GO TO A PLACE OF 
IR RATIONALITY.
BUT WE'RE EMOTIONAL BEINGS.
AS EMOTIONAL BEINGS, IT IS 
FRIGHTENING AND IT IS UNKNOWN 
AND IT IS THREATENING AND IT IS 
SCARY AND PEOPLE ARE DYING.
HE'S GOING TO BE OKAY.
I BELIEVE THAT.
HE'S IN HIS BASEMENT.
I SENT HIM OVER A BOOK THAT 
COULD BE HELPFUL.
BEGINNERS GUIDE TO STRIPED BASS 
FISHING.
I HOPE HE PICKS UP SOME TIPS 
FROM THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY TO HIM, 
BECAUSE I WANT HIM TO KNOW -- HE
FOUND OUT YESTERDAY MORNING THAT
HE HAD CORONAVIRUS.
HE DID HIS SHOW LAST NIGHT.
HE DID HIS SHOW LAST NIGHT FROM 
HIS BASEMENT.
WHAT A GUTSY, COURAGEOUS THING 
TO DO.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IN SOME WAYS THIS CAN BE VERY 
INSTRUCTIVE, I THINK, TO MANY 
PEOPLE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS 
TO KNOW, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF 
YOU GET CORONAVIRUS.
ALL RIGHT.
HE DID.
AND HE DOES THE SHOW EVERY 
NIGHT.
MAYBE SOME NIGHTS HE WON'T BE 
ABLE TO DO IT, BUT HE DOES THE 
SHOW EVERY NIGHT.
SO WHAT'S THE POSITIVE?
SHOW THE COUNTRY WHAT IT MEANS 
TO HAVE CORONAVIRUS.
THAT INFORMATION, THAT 
EXPERIENCE CAN BE HELPFUL TO 
PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHY HE DID THE SHOW LAST 
NIGHT.
OKAY.
I HAVE CORONAVIRUS.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HERE I AM.
I'M DOING MY SHOW.
I DIDN'T FALL OVER.
I DIDN'T COLLAPSE.
IT'S NOT A DEATH SENTENCE.
HERE I AM.
I'M DOING MY SHOW.
KUDOS TO HIM.
MY POP WOULD BE PROUD.
I LOVE YOU, LITTLE BROTHER.
EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T A 
FLATTERING PICTURE, I DID NOT 
PICK THIS PICTURE WITH YOUR 
MOUTH OPEN, BUT IT IS SUITABLE 
IN SOME WAYS.
ANY QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS?
>> TESTING -- 
[ INAUDIBLE ]
>> IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT 
BECAUSE I MISSED IT.
ALSO, LET'S DO ANY QUESTIONS ON 
CORONAVIRUS.
IF YOU WANT TO DO QUESTIONS ON 
THE BUDGET, LET'S DO THEM AT THE
END.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR 
QUESTION. 
>> WHAT'S THE STATE POLICY OR 
PROCEDURE FOR TESTING OF 
SUSPECTED CORONAVIRUS CASES?
>> WHAT'S THE STATE'S POLICY FOR
POSTHUMOUS CORONAVIRUS TESTING.
I HAVE NO IDEA. 
>> SO, THIS IS BASED ON A 
CLINICAL PICTURE.
SO SOMEONE DIED AS A RESULT OF 
RESPIRATORY ILLNESS, THE PERSON 
WOULD BE TESTED TO BE SURE AND 
TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED 
TO THEM.
THERE ARE CONTACTS THAT PERSON 
HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO.
>> -- PEOPLE THAT TESTED 
POSITIVE FOR CORONAVIRUS OR 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE CORONAVIRUS -- 
>> SO WHEN WE HEAR -- WE KNOW 
THOSE WHO HAVE DIED AND ARE 
TESTED AT THE TIME OF AUTOPSY, 
THOSE ARE INCLUDED. 
>> YOU CONFIRMED THERE WERE SOME
PATIENTS REMOVED FROM NEW YORK 
CITY TO ALBANY MEDICAL CENTER 
AND ALSO ELLIS HOSPITAL AS WELL 
LAST NIGHT. 
>> WERE THERE PATIENTS MOVED -- 
CORONAVIRUS PATIENTS MOVED FROM 
NEW YORK CITY TO ALBANY MED?
YES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS ONE 
STATE, THIS IS ONE FAMILY OF NEW
YORK.
THIS IS ONE FAMILY OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, BY THE WAY.
WE SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
IN TWO WAYS, STAFF FROM UPSTATE 
HOSPITALS, WILL BE GOING TO DOWN
STATE HOSPITALS, BECAUSE ONE OF 
THE REAL CRITICAL SITUATIONS ARE
STAFF SHORTAGES AND STAFF 
EXHAUSTION.
SO UPSTATE STAFF WILL HELP DOWN 
STATE HOSPITALS.
AND DOWN STATE HOSPITALS WHO ARE
AT OVERCAPACITY CAN TRANSFER 
PATIENTS TO UPSTATE. 
>> IS IT SAFE TO MOVE COVID 
PATIENTS?
>> DEPENDS ON THE PATIENT.
IF THEY ARE IN A PLACE WHERE THE
HOSPITAL CAN'T TREAT THEM, THEN 
IT'S BETTER TO MOSTLY FAIR THEM 
AND BE IN A HOSPITAL WHERE THEY 
CAN BE. 
>> WE'RE DOING THIS NOW, DOES 
THAT MEAN DOWN STATE HOSPITALS 
ARE FULL.
I KNOW THERE'S DATA ON BEDS, ICU
BEDS.
CAN YOU MAKE THAT AVAILABLE?
ALSO, YOU SAID 110,000 BEDS FOR 
COVID, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY?
>> ONE COVID WOULD SUGGEST YOU 
HAVE 30,000 NON-COVID PATIENTS.
WE TRIED TO BRING DOWN THE 
PATIENT COUNT BY MANDATING NO 
ELECTIVE SURGERY THAT WAS 
NONCRITICAL.
SO PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO THE 
HOSPITAL TO HAVE A HIP 
REPLACEMENT UNTIL THEY REALLY 
NEED IT.
THEY ARE NOT GOING IN FOR ANY 
TYPE OF ELECTIVE SURGERY, SO 
BROUGHT THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS 
DOWN SO WE COULD GET MORE COVID 
PATIENTS IN.
THE TRANSFER FROM NEW YORK CITY,
NEW YORK CITY HOSPITAL TO ALBANY
MEDICAL WAS MORE OF A ONE-OFF 
SITUATION, WHICH HAS BEEN 
INDIVIDUALLY ARRANGED.
NOW THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS 
NOW COORDINATING ALL TRANSFERS.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE FIRST STEP IS TRANSFERS 
WITHIN THE SYSTEM, SO DOWN STATE
NEW YORK YOU HAVE H&H SYSTEM, 
TRANSFER AMONG THE H&H HOSPITALS
TO BALANCE LOAD, BALANCE 
CAPACITY AND TRANSFER AMONG THE 
PRIVATE HOSPITALS TO BALANCE 
LOAD, THEN TRANSFER AMONG THOSE 
TWO SYSTEMS.
AND THEN WORST-CASE SCENARIO 
TRANSFER UPSTATE. 
>> HOW MUCH CAPACITY IS LEFT 
BETWEEN H&H AND PRIVATE 
HOSPITALS?
I GUESS WESTCHESTER, TOO. 
>> THEY ARE NOT AT CAPACITY NOW.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST THAT 
CURVE GOES UP.
WE MONITOR IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
THAT'S THE $64,000 QUESTION, 
JIMMY.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE APEX, YOU 
WILL BE OVER CAPACITY.
ANY OF THOSE MODELS, BY THE WAY,
SAY YOU ARE OVER CAPACITY.
YOU'RE OVER 100%, BY ANY MODEL 
AT THE APEX. 
>> WHO DETERMINES, GOVERNOR, 
WHAT IS CRITERIA FOR MOVING 
PATIENTS FROM NEW YORK CITY TO 
UPSTATE HOSPITALS?
DO THEY HAVE LOCAL CONNECTIONS 
OR -- 
>> IT'S GOING TO BE -- THE 
TRANSFER THAT HAPPENED WAS 
BASICALLY A ONE-OFF BECAUSE 
THERE WERE HOSPITALS THAT HAD A 
PRE-EXISTING AGREEMENT.
BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN GOING 
FORWARD, THE BATTLE ON THE 
MOUNT, WILL BE CAPACITY.
YOU FILL ALL THE DOWN STATE 
HOSPITALS AND YOU'RE OVER 
CAPACITY ON ALL THE DOWN STATE 
HOSPITALS.
YOU THEN HAVE JAVITS CENTER AS A
RELIEF VALVE.
YOU HAVE THAT SHIP.
THE "COMFORT" AS A RELIEF VALVE,
BUT THEY ONLY TAKE NON-COVID 
PATIENTS.
YOU TRY TO TRANSFER TO LONG 
ISLAND IF LONG ISLAND IS AT 
CAPACITY, THEN YOU MOVE UPSTATE.
IT'S A PURE CAPACITY ISSUE.
PURE SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT ISSUE.
[ INAUDIBLE QUESTION ]
>> -- NEW YORKERS WATCHING SHIPS
COME INTO NEW YORK.
WHAT MORE CAN THE CITY DO TO 
MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE STAYING 
INSIDE.
IS CLOSING PLAYGROUNDS ENOUGH?
PEOPLE MARVELING AT THE SHIP AND
STANDING CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND
NYPD NOT NECESSARILY DOING 
ANYTHING ABOUT IT RIGHT AWAY. 
>> LOOK, WE HAD THIS 
CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY.
IT'S PART OF THE CLOSING OF THE 
PLAYGROUNDS.
THE NYPD HAS TO GET MORE 
AGGRESSIVE, PERIOD.
PERIOD.ím&N
IT'S NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT 
ISSUE.
IT IS.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO 
FORCE ME INTO A POSITION WHERE I
HAVE TO MANDATE IT AND MAKE IT A
LAW, A SOCIAL DISTANCING LAW, 
WHICH I THINK IS ABSURD BUT IT 
HAS TO BE ENFORCED.
FIRST, HOW RECKLESS AND 
IRRESPONSIBLE AND SELFISH FOR 
PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT ON THEIR 
OWN.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE TO KNOW?
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE TO HEAR?
WHO ELSE HAS TO DIE FOR YOU TO 
UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A 
RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS.
RIGHT?
I MEAN, IT'S JUST REALLY SO 
INCREDIBLE.
ESPECIALLY NEW YORKERS WHO LIVE 
IN A DENSE ENVIRONMENT AND NOW 
HOW INTERDEPENDENT THEY ARE ARE 
ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT?
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE ONE 
PERSON SNEEZES AND I GET 
INFECTED.
SO OUR OWN SOCIAL 
RESPONSIBILITY, THE INDIVIDUAL 
RESPONSIBILITY, THE CIVIC DUTY.
BUT BEYOND THAT, YEAH, WE ARE 
GOING TO NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.
>> THE PERCENTAGE OF NYPD AND 
FDNY CALLING OUT SICK, ANY 
EFFORTS TO SHORE UP FIRST 
RESPONDERS?
>> WE'LL DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
IF NYPD, FDNY GET SICK, THEY GET
SICK, THE BACKFILL WILL COME 
FROM STATE POLICE.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
STATE POLICE ALREADY HAS TOTAL 
JURISDICTION WITHIN NEW YORK 
CITY.
SECOND, WE COULD DEPP TIES 
POLICE OFFICERS FROM UPSTATE 
COMMUNITIES TO SERVE IN NEW YORK
CITY, IF WE GET TO THAT POINT.
NOW, THE NYPD IS SO LARGE, I 
DON'T KNOW THAT WE GET TO THAT 
POINT.
BUT IF WE BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE 
THE MINIMUM PERSONNEL TO POLICE 
NEW YORK CITY, WE COULD THEN GO 
TO THE STATE POLICE.
WORSE COMES TO WORSE, WE COULD 
DEUTIZE OTHER OFFICERS, SAME 
THING WITH FIREFIGHTERS. 
>> WORKERS ASSIGNED TO NEW YORK 
HOSPITALS ALREADY AND WHICH 
ONES?
>> HOW MANY VOLUNTEER MEDICAL --
FIRST, THE HOSPITALS, WE HAVE A 
POOL OF -- 
>> WILL 2,000. 
>> WE HAVE A POOL OF 82,000 
PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY WANT TO 
HELP.
WE LINK THEM TO THE HOSPITALS.
THE HOSPITALS WILL BASICALLY 
EMPLOY THEM.
THEY HAVE TO FIT THE NEEDS OF 
THE HOSPITAL.
THE HOSPITAL HAS TO VET THEM. ID
PERFORMING SERVICES.
IT'S REALLY AT THIS POINT AS 
QUICKLY AS THOSE HOSPITALS CAN 
MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS QUICKLY 
AS THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING
ANECDOTAL.
WE'VE MADE IT AVAILABLE.
THEY KNOW THE GEOGRAPHIC 
LOCATIONS, SPECIALTIES BUT THEY 
WANT TO BE CAREFUL THEY ARE 
PIBBING A PERSON QUALIFIED TO 
PERFORM THE DUTIES.
DO WE KNOW -- DO YOU HAVE A 
NUMBER?
>> THERE ARE THREE HOSPITALS 
THAT CONTACTED THE PORTAL.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1500 
PERSONNEL.
HOPEFULLY THOSE CONNECTIONS BY 
TALKING TO THE HOSPITALS WILL BE
AT LEAST HIRED BY THURSDAY WHEN 
THEY ARE IN THE HOSPITALS 
UNKNOWN, WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE 
HOSPITAL AND HEALTH CARE 
EMPLOYEE THEMSELVES.
WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM WORK 
THAT THROUGH AND PUT THAT 
THROUGH AFTER THEY WORK OUT 
ARRANGEMENTS FOR THEIR OWN 
PRIVACY. 
>> ANY STAFF COME DOWN TO NEW 
YORK CITY, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF
A FIRST LINE TO HAVE ALREADY 
EMPLOYED HOSPITAL STAFF OUT OF 
STATE COME DOWN. 
>> ANECDOTALLY, YES, THEY HAVE.
WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS YET ON 
EXACTLY HOW MANY. 
>> WHY NOT CLOSE DOWNPLAY 
GROUNDS STATEWIDE?
WHY ONLY NEW YORK CITY. 
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME 
DENSITY IN UPSTATE AS WE HAVE 
DOWN STATE.
IF THEY DO, I WOULD. 
>> -- HOSPITALS IN NEW YORK, 
ONLINE -- 
>> WHEN WE NEED THEM.
THE TEMPORARY HOSPITALS ARE THE 
ULTIMATE OVERFLOW VALVE AND ARE 
NOT WITHOUT DIFFICULTIES IN AND 
OF THEMSELVES, RIGHT?
THEY ARE REALLY THE LAST OF THE 
LAST RESORT.
YOU STILL NEED STAFF.
YOU STILL NEED EQUIPMENT.
THEY ARE REALLY AVAILABLE IF YOU
MAX OUT YOUR BED CAPACITY.
MY FEAR IS ON THE HOSPITAL 
CAPACITY THERE ARE THREE 
COMPONENTS, BEDS, WHICH 
LITERALLY NEED BEDS, STAFF, AND 
EQUIPMENT.
YOU WILL RUN OUT OF STAFF BEFORE
YOU WILL RUN OUT OF BEDS.
AND YOU MAYfL RUN OUT OF EQUIPMT
BEFORE YOU RUN OUT OF STAFF.
THAT'S THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. 
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF RELIGIOUS
STUDIES LIKE SAMARITAN'S PURSE 
RUNNING TEMPORARY HOSPITALS IN 
NEW YORK CITY. 
>> ANYBODY WHO CAN HELP, GOD 
BLESS. 
>> FROM THE FEDERAL STOCKPILE, 
VENTILATORS AND OTHER MEDICAL 
EQUIPMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU 
SAW THE STORY ABOUT USIV HAVING 
ISSUE SENDING SUPPLIES, THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS SENDING 
PEOPLE TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO 
LOOK FOR SUPPLIES AND SOME 
CONFUSION THERE.
THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO SAID THAT 
SHE -- THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
BEING COMPLETELY HONEST WITH HER
ABOUT THE STOCKPILE.
DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE WHAT 
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND OTHER FOLKS 
AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, DO YOU THINK THEY 
ARE BEING COMPLETELY HONEST AND 
TRUTHFUL WITH YOU ABOUT THE 
STOCKPILE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE 
IN THE STOCKPILE.
I ONLY KNOW WHAT I READ.
LOOK, I WAS IN THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW, IS THERE ONE 
STOCKPILE?
ARE THERE MULTIPLE STOCKPILES?
I DON'T KNOW.
DO I THINK THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT HAS ENOUGH IN THE 
COLLECTIVE STOCKPILES, ENOUGH IN
THEIR POSSESSION TO MEET THE 
NEED?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I PRAY THAT THEY DO BECAUSE 
THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION.
I CANNOT BUY A VENTILATOR FOR A 
MILLION DOLLARS -- MAYBE FOR A 
MILLION DOLLARS I COULD BUY A 
VENTILATOR, BUT YOU CANNOT BUY 
VENTILATORS.
REMARKABLY IN A REAL CRUEL TWIST
OF FATE, CHINA IS THE MAIN 
MANUFACTURER FOR ALL THESE 
THINGS.
IT ALL COMES BACK TO CHINA.
WHERE DO WE GET THE MASKS?
CHINA.
WHERE DO WE GET THE GOWNS?
CHINA.
WHERE DO WE GET THE GLOVES?
CHINA.
WHERE DO WE GET THE VENTILATORS?
CHINA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT INTO 
THIS SITUATION.
CHINA IS SELLING TO THE WORLD, 
LITERALLY, SO A STATE, AND EVERY
GOVERNOR WILL TELL YOU THIS, 
THEY ARE TRYING TO BUY, I'M 
TRYING TO BUY, I'M CALLING 
EVERYONE I KNOW, BUT IT ALL 
COMES BACK TO CHINA.
THEN YOU HAVE THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT THAT IS ALSO BUYING.
SO REALLY THE ONLY HOPE FOR A 
STATE AT THIS POINT IS THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CAPACITY TO
DELIVER.
THAT'S WHY THE DEFENSE 
PRODUCTION ACT CAME UP WEEKS 
AGO.
RIGHT?
THE DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT GIVES
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED 
STATES POWER TO SAY TO A COMPANY
YOU MAKE THIS.
THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT 
VENTILATORS.
LOOK, YOU HAVE A SHORTFALL ON 
GOWNS.
EMERGING COMPANIES CAN MAKE 
GOWNS.
THEY AREN'T LIKE WEDDING GOWNS.
THEY ARE LIKE PAPER GOWNS.
MAKE THE GOWNS.
MAKE THE GLOVES.
MAKE THE MASKS.
YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE RUNNING OUT
OF THESE BASIC SUPPLIES?
>> NEED TO RETHINK SOME SYSTEMS.
DOES THIS MAKE YOU MORE OF AN 
ADVOCATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE 
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME OR MAYBE 
A SINGLE PAYER SFLAEL MANAGED 
HEALTH SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT 
YOU'RE DOING NOW?
>> I DON'T KNOW, JIMMY.
I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE BASIC 
THAN THAT.
HOW DO YOU KEEP THE ECONOMY 
RUNNING?
SEE, NO SYSTEM WILL WORK IF THE 
ENTIRE ECONOMY IS CLOSED DOWN.
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
WHO IS SUPPOSED TO PAY IF 
NOTHING IS WORKING. 
>> FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
UNEMPLOYMENT AT $600. 
>> YEAH, THEY ARE JUST PRINTING■
MONEY.
THERE'S ONLY SO LONG YOU CAN 
PRINT MONEY.
YOU CAN KEEP THE PRINTING PRESS 
GOING BUT ULTIMATELY THERE HAS 
TO BE SOME REVENUE GENERATED 
SOMEWHERE.
HOW DO YOU HAVE A RESILIENT 
ECONOMY?
HOW DO PEOPLE REALLY WORK FROM 
HOME IF YOU COULD PLAN IT AND 
DESIGN IT AND YOU ANTICIPATED 
THIS MOMENT, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE 
DONE DIFFERENTLY.
THAT'S MY POINT.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.
I'M JUST SAYING TODAY WE HAVE TO
POSE THE QUESTIONS.
RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 
CRISIS AND WE'RE TREATING THIS 
HOSPITAL MANAGEMENT PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL DOING, 
RIGHT?
WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MANAGE 
HOSPITALS.
THAT'S WHATYks THIS HAS COME DO 
TO, AND ENFORCING SOCIAL 
DISTANCING.
THAT'S IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO START TO THINK 
ABOUT THIS IS GOING TO BE OVER 
AT ONE POINT AND WHAT DID WE 
LEARN AND WHAT SHOULD WE LEARN 
AND HOW DOES IT CHANGE US AND 
HOW DOES IT TRANSFORM US, AND 
WHAT DO WE WANT TO TAKE THIS 
FROM THAT IS POSITIVE.
I'VE NOT THOUGHT THROUGH ANY OF 
THAT.
I'M STILL PREPARING FOR THE 
CRITICAL ENGAGEMENT ON THE TOP 
OF THE MOUNTAIN.
LET'S TAKE ONE MORE QUESTION.
WHO HAS ASKED A QUESTION.
SIR. 
>> THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING 
THE -- NUMBERS ARE HIGH 
COMPLIANCE SOCIAL DISTANCE.
DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS WITH LOW 
COMPLIANCE SOCIAL DISTANCING?
IF SO, THE APEX WOULD BE DELAYED
BY HOW MUCH?
>> THE APEX IS NOT DELAYED, 
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH.
JIM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO 
THIS WHILE I LOOK FOR THE SLIDE?
>> THE APEC, THE TIMING IS THE 
SAME, IT'S JUST THE SEVERITY OF 
THE SPREAD.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT SOCIAL 
DISTANCING, SO IT'S LIMITING 
EXPOSURE TO AS MANY PEOPLE 
POSSIBLE.
THE MORE YOU DISTANCE EACH 
OTHER, THE LESS IT IS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE MODELLED.
THINGS STATES ARE DOING TO 
SOCIAL DISTANCE, WE COULD 
PROJECT THAT LOWER LEVEL IF 
PEOPLE COMPLY WITH THOSE ORDERS 
AND RULES.
CAN COME DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
LIKE THE GOVERNOR SAID, WE'RE 
WORKING WITH MANY DIFFERENT 
ORGANIZATIONS.
THE COLLEGE THAT A MODEL, 
CORNELL UNIVERSITY, THE 
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.
IT IS COALESCING AROUND THIS 
MODEL THAT IF YOU SOCIAL 
DISTANCE IT DOES COME DOWN, IN 
THE RANGE THE McKINSEY MODEL 
SHOWS TODAY.
IT CHANGES BASED ON THE DAY TO 
DAY INFORMATION COMING IN.
IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING TO 
MITIGATE THIS, THE SPREAD 
BECOMES MORE INTENSE.
IT'S QUICK, RAPID, SO THE APEX 
REMAINS THE SAME.
THE INTENSITY OF THE SPREAD IS 
JUST GREATER SO THERE'S MORE OF 
A HEALTH CARE NEED AT THE SAME 
TIME.
>> -- PRESIDENT TRUMP ASKING 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR 
VENTILATORS INSTEAD OF BIDDING. 
>> THE STATES, I'M ASKING THEM 
FOR VENTILATORS.
SEE THE SLIDE, IT SAYS WE NEED 
37,000 VENTILATORS.
I HAVE ASKED THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT NUMEROUS TIMES FOR 
VENTILATORS.
THEY HAVE SENT THE STATE A TOTAL
OF 4,000 VENTILATORS.
YOUR QUESTION.
AGAIN, WE HAVE CLOSED STATE 
PLAYGROUNDS ON YOUR QUESTION 
BEFORE, SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.
WE CLOSED EIGHT PLAYGROUNDS 
ALREADY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO 
CLOSE CITY PLAYGROUNDS.
ALSO ON THE BUDGET, AS A GENERAL
COMMENT, I'VE DONE -- I'M VERY 
PROUD OF HOW MANY BUDGETS WE'VE 
DONE.
THIS WILL BE OVER A DECADE OF 
BUDGETS.
THEY HAVE BEEN ON TIME.
THEY HAVE BEEN BALANCED.
THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN LIKE 60 
YEARS IN THIS STATE.
IT NEVER GOT BUDGETS DONE ON 
TIME.
THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT
BUDGET, BECAUSE THERE IS NO 
MONEY AND THERE'S MUCH FEAR AND 
THERE'S MUCH STRESS.
WE HAD TO DO THE BUDGET WHILE 
DEALING WITH THIS CORONAVIRUS 
SITUATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD MY 
TEAM.
NORMALLY DOING THE BUDGET IS THE
NUMBER ONE FUNCTION FOR THE 
STATE STAFF, RIGHT, FOR THE 
ENTIRE YEAR.
YOU DO THE BUDGET, EVERYBODY 
WORKS ON THE BUDGET.
HERE WE HAD TO DO THE BUDGET AND
WORK ON THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS, 
AND THEY DID BOTH.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM 
FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
I DON'T KNOW HOW.
IT'S ALMOST INCONCEIVABLE.
AND MELISSA AND ROB AND BETH AND
THE WHOLE TEAM.
THE SAME IS TRUE ON THE 
LEGISLATIVE SIDE.
THAT'S THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH.
THIS IS A TOUGH, TOUGH BUDGET 
AND I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKER 
AND HIS STAFF AND SENATE LEADER 
COUSINS AND SHONTEL.
THEY HAVE REALLY DONE A 
MAGNIFICENT, MAGNIFICENT JOB.
WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL AGREEMENT 
WITH THE LEADERS ON THE BUDGET.
THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO THEIR 
MEMBERS TODAY AND TALK TO THEM 
ABOUT THE AGREEMENT.
IF THE LEADERS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN
THEIR CONFERENCES, THEN WE WILL 
PASS THE BUDGET.
>> THERE'S A $250 MILLION 
DISTRESSED HOSPITAL FUND WITHIN 
THAT THAT COUNTIES WOULD HAVE TO
KICK IN 30% FOR FOR HOSPITALS IN
THEIR BORDERS.
IS THAT -- HOW IS THAT GOING TO 
WORK?
WHY PUT THAT ON COUNTIES?
HOW WILL THAT SERVE REGIONS?
>> I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO 
SPECIFICS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE 
WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE 
LEADERS.
THE LEADERS ARE BRIEFING.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL SENATORS 
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBERS.
I'D RATHER LET THE LEADERS GO 
THROUGH THE BUDGET WITH THEIR 
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS AND SENATOR 
FIRST BEFORE WE HEAR ABOUT IT 
FROM ME IN A PRESS CONFERENCE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY 
SPECIFIC COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT 
YOU'RE NOT DOING A BROAD-BASED 
TAX INCREASE.
ALSO I'VE HEARD THAT OVERALL THE
OPERATING MAY GO DOWN.
IF THAT'S TRUE, ARE WE ACTUALLY 
REDUCING SPENDING?
RATHER THAN MAYBE RAISE TAXES 
AND RAISE SPENDING. 
>> SO THE GOVERNMENT SUBMITTED A
BUDGET, $500 MILLION IN 
OPERATIONS.
IN THE ABSENCE IN $10 BILLION IN
REVENUES THAT WE'VE PROJECTED 
ORB EITHER TAX REVENUES OR 
FEDERAL FUNDS, YOU WOULD LOSE --
YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN 
THE BUDGET TO $95 BILLION.
WHAT WE HAVE SAID IS OVER TIME 
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AND SEE.
IF REVENUES COME IN, WE WILL PUT
THOSE REVENUES INTO THE 
RESPECTIVE SPENDING AREAS AS 
PROPOSED BY THE GOVERNOR.
IF THEY DO NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO 
MAKE THOSE REDUCTIONS.
YOU WOULD REDUCE THE BUDGET 
OVERALL.
IT WOULD GO DOWN.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THE $10 
BILLION, THE BUDGET WOULD GO 
DOWN 6.7%. 
>> ARE WE DOING SHORT-TERM 
BORROWING FOR TAX FLOW?
ANY LONG-TERM BORROWING FOR 
YEARS TO COVER OPERATION. 
>> WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO 
ISSUE SHORT-TERM BORROWING TO 
BRIDGE THE GAP FROM THE TAX 
FILING DATE CHANGE.
WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
MOVED THE TAX DATE FROM APRIL 
15th TO JULY 15th, THAT RESULTS 
IN NO REVENUE COMING DURING THAT
PERIOD.
WE HAVE EXPENDITURES FOR THAT 
PERIOD.
FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE HAVE
TOOLS TO GET -- WE HAVE SOME 
RESERVES AND TEMPORARY BORROWING
TO BRIDGE THAT GAP. 
>> LET ME SAY THIS.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD
OF THE LEADERS AND THEIR 
CONFERENCES.
IT'S REMARK TO GET THIS DONE 
WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON.
ALSO, THIS BUDGET IS A ROBUST 
BUDGET.
THIS BUDGET WHEN WE DID THE 
STATE OF THE STATE, WE HAD A LOT
OF POLICY IDEAS, A LOT OF 
REFORMS FOR THIS STATE THAT 
WOULD HELP MANY, MANY NEW 
YORKERS AND MAKE THE STATE ONCE 
AGAIN THE PROGRESSIVE LEADER ON 
THE ENVIRONMENT, ON SOCIAL 
JUSTICE, ECONOMIC JUSTICE, 
RACIAL JUSTICE.
AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL
IN THIS BUDGET.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE SAID, WELL, 
BECAUSE WE'RE BUSY, WE'RE GOING 
TO SCALE )p7aÑBACK, AND I APPLAE
ASSEMBLY IN THE SENATE.
WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, WE DID
NOT SCALE BACK OUR EFFORTS OR 
OUR AMBITIONS TO ADVANCE THIS 
STATE TO GREATER HEIGHTS.
AND YOU LOOK AT THIS BUDGET, YOU
WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT ANYTHING 
ELSE WAS GOING ON.
IT WILL BE AS PRODUCTIVE A 
LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS WE HAVE 
HAD.
THE NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET ARE 
GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT 
WITH THIS CAVEAT.
THE BUDGET IS SAYING ON THE 
NUMBERS, LOOK, WE CAN'T SPEND 
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.
IF MONEY COMES IN DURING THE 
COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE'LL SPEND 
IT.
IF WE ACTUALLY LOSE MONEY, WE 
HAVE TO ADJUST IS.
AND THAT'S LIFE AND THAT'S EVERY
FAMILY'S SITUATION, AND WE'LL 
DEAL WITH IT TOGETHER.
THAT'S IT.
I HAVE TO GO TO WORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
>> STATE WORKERS, IF THE BUDGET 
PASSES TODAY, WILL THEY -- 
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>> YES.
THE CONTROLLER COULD HAVE PAID 
THEM YESTERDAY, WITH THE 
SITUATION BEFORE.
HE CHOSE NOT TO.
HE MUST PAY THEM THE MOMENT IT 
PASSES. 
>> IS THERE -- 
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>> YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE THE 
BUDGET.
