>> Do you tweeted something a couple days
ago that I thought was just perfect. And it
was something to the effect of these speeches
aren't bad considering they were taped in
January, he said something like that. Because
obviously, nothing of what's going on in America
has been accurately reflected.
Some of it hasn't even been mentioned. I mean,
the speech is yesterday. Despite how constantly
they would attack Biden saying he can't make
it through anything. They were virtually all
pre-taped.
>> Yeah.
>> And so, they didn't comment on any of the
massive events that were going on yesterday.
But indeed, even in a larger sense, all the
comments about COVID have all been in the
past. We've moved past it. The economy is
doing great, which obviously that isn't what
the experience of what most Americans is.
I get that they're not gonna focus on what's
going wrong.
But is this gonna play, like for people who
are watching this, they're out there, they're
worried for their families. They're worried
about their jobs or their businesses. And
it feels like an alternate reality that's
being broadcast to them. You've seen a lot
of these, is this gonna work?
>> Yeah, first of all, yes. I mean, to an
extent it works with the people it needs to
work with. I guess it's a multi-layered question.
It does feel as if they push the pause button
six months ago, and nothing that happened
in the last six months matters to what they're
trying to portray here.
And that was really the fall of both the economy,
confidence in the president, business, jobs,
everything went South. And it went South because
of the virus and it stayed South because of
how they responded to the virus. That said,
I think that this election is different than
many of the others that I've covered because
I feel as if there is a decided electorate,
there's very little wiggle room in the middle.
It's about getting for the Democrats, it's
about getting young black men to vote, it's
about getting the very progressive voters
who call themselves Democrats out to vote
for someone who they don't necessarily love.
And for the Republicans, they have to rally
their base but they seem so base focused that
I think they're shooting themselves in the
foot by not going after some of the voters
who left the Democratic Party and voted for
them last time but were inactive and voted
for them last time.
I don't understand their policy. They won
the White House, they're there. So they know
something that I don't but I just don't this
time understand their strategy not policy
in trying to get reelected. This whole week
was in a sense an opportunity for them to
talk about chaos, and that the chaos is happening
in Democratic cities and Democratic states-
>> Mm-hm.
>> By and large, even though that has nothing
to do with anything, right? It's about policing
and it's about other factors. But this was
an opportunity that they blown by pretending
that none of it's happening in a sense.
>> Yeah.
>> And just going to the police and saying,
Blue Lives Matter.
The police, the frontline workers, they love
a first responder in that Republican Party.
And they had them there last night, they created
the term first responders in the wake of 9/11.
So, I think this whole idea that this is gonna
matter a lot is false. I don't think the Democrat,
going into these two conventions, I thought
there was one speech that mattered over all
the eight days, that was the speech that Senator
Sanders was gonna make.
He made the speech, he seemed much more enthusiastic
than they did four years ago about supporting
the ticket. He then a few nights later was
in that sort of survivor game with Cory Booker
and the other candidates which I liked.
>> I like that.
>> Yeah, I thought not just because I liked
it as as Michael, I liked it because I think
it's a good thing to do for a party to show
that everybody's kind of on the same page
here.
We've got to get rid of this guy and that
works.
>> Yeah.
>> That's the only thing that I think is gonna
move the dial at all. I don't think anything
that anybody else said maybe that the Biden's
seem too strong, but I've seen him give so
many good speeches, I wasn't surprised about
that.
>> I thought you would said that you thought
it was among his best.
>> I did, yeah, I think it was the best, I
think I said it was the finest speech I've
ever seen him give. And it wasn't sort of
momentary hyperbole. I really do think it
was a great speech and I didn't have the bar
low for him.
But unfortunately for him the bar was low.
Joe Biden, he can give good speeches. I don't
think he's a great debater. I don't think
that he is necessarily a great interview.
He does a disingenuous laugh that he's done
forever. I know he's a good guy people like
Joe Biden.
That's not the issue here and he doesn't have
to sell that in a way that doesn't come across
as as necessarily real. But he is a good guy.
And he gave a good speech, but I don't even
think that speech matters, John. I think what
matters is the fact that the Democrats wanna
try and get unity and they wanted to try to
attract other voters through ways that are
discomforting to a lot of Democrats, but I
think maybe made a little sense.
We'll see.
>> Yeah, yeah, I thought, yeah, I agree. I
thought Bernie's was big. It was a little
bit undercut by AOC decided to go rogue and
endorse Sanders instead of Joe Biden.
>> Right, yeah, what was she thinking?
>> My God, I don't understand it, because
I don't know anything about what's happening
at this convention.
>> Also I'm a multi-billionaire media company.
>> Right, yeah.
