I have a feeling that it's going to be
passed or watered down some as always,
but whatever happens I feel and I
know I'm sure, you see it has been for a
long time said that a few 
negroes wanted this but I think Washington the
march on Washington spelled out really whether or not the negroes want this thing. Of
all levels, the high, the low, the rich, the poor, the learned or unlearned, they were there. To
say that we want freedom and we want it
now.
 
... that's the purpose of your visit here
Move a little closer to the microphone if you will.
My name is Martin Luther King Senior of
Atlanta, Georgia, co-pastor in Ebenezer
Baptist Church with my son Dr. Martin
Luther King Junior. My visit in the city of Los
Angeles at this time is to be with our
good friend Dr. Peters at the Victory
Baptist Church on Sunday and [...]
services in the afternoon.
we've had no individual or pastor that's
been more dedicated than, who have what...
any closer with us in our struggle than
Dr. Peters here in your city. So it's a
joy for me to visit with him and his
fine people at this time and to visit
your fine city again. It's a joy to be here.
Any rallies planned during your stay?
No rallies I'm just here to Victory
Baptist Church on Sunday throughout the day.
Reverend King can you shed some light on
the reason that your son has been in a
local hotel room [...]
Simply to say my son is far overworked.
He has been so used to it in the last, well,
six months, more so than any other time
at all, and we have urged upon him to see
if he could get some rest somewhere.
He's had no vacation he's tried to take a
vacation twice this year and hasn't been
able to do it yet. He's right now with a
book overdue that he tried to get meet the
deadline with the printers -- that he hadn't been able
to do because of other pressing
responsibilities. I would imagine he is
trying to continue to write on this book but I know he's desperately tired. Can you tell if it has anything to do
with a rumor that he is reluctant to make any
statement which might be taken as inflammatory
because of [...]
no no I wouldn't think that I wouldn't think
that at all
now frankly let me say to you that
although we are co-pastors in the
same church but sometimes I don't get to
talk with him in 4 to 5 weeks or any time at all
just two minutes and on to the pulpit
and then out he's gone again so that I
can't always know every move he is making well I didn't know he was in Los Angeles until the day before yesterday
so this is the situation now I know he
is to be back in Atlanta in the pulpit
Sunday with the guest Minister who lives
with us but now just how long he's in
Atlanta I don't know in fact I do not
expect you would know more about that than I would
so that I'm sure as I've said I repeat that
being the father could be
is simply because gets overworked
not that I know of no he gets overworked he gets tired let
us see what is the racial situation in Atlanta ---
well now this is the most difficult thing all
I get from Los Angles is what I read you know
and you don't always get it correctly you know from the news media but I think
Los Angeles and they're much like all
others it's all over now everywhere
that's just as simple as this and the
negro is simply going to be free now
he's going to be a first-class citizen
and he's not gonna take anything
for less than that and deals and all that
means nothing that's that's all over
so that's everywhere now just you see
you see the truth of it is we have known
in the south where we were you that live
in these parts thought you knew where
you were and these folks have been so
hypocritical ---
know where the lines are there and now they began to open up here and you find that
there are many situations here that
must be cleared and there will be no
question about that Reverend King would
you say then that the fact is you and
your son are both in Los Angeles at the
same time as merely a matter of
coincidence?
purely a coincidence and if nothing is
planned to step up any racial activities
or racial desegregation activities here?
I'm here to be with this Minister now I've
said that my son did not know that I was
going to be in Los Angeles until I
relayed it to him and asked him I wouldn't
have been here if my son could not have
been in the pulpit in the manner I could
not have been here our situation is so
one of us must always be in the pulpit in
Atlanta although we have a guest
Minister Sunday but one of the preachers
must be there because it takes a great deal of maneuvering the courage it takes with two
pastors in the South would take --- so no he doesn't know anything about that
I would like to comment and that I've
read it and had some knowledge of it I
have not read that you said came out
this morning?
feeling of discrimination and
unhappiness he feels the difference real
depth of the feeling of discrimination
well I would think so I would I would
think so yeah
because we never knew it was as deep as
it is in the northern and eastern areas
as you will find the fact I didn't for
instance I've always felt on a visit to New
York City and New York State on a
park that well you folks got it made
you see only define all the other differences
I thought the same thing in this
city when I visited here several times
well I just thought it was a place I
ought to be but from a distance
well I happened to live with his mother
you know and what happened to her
concerned me first I must be very much
concerned about her and you can be
assured at that time this they're
terrific so I must take my own worries
and then be sure that I'm protecting her
and hers so yes at times we are very
much concerned and well we live under
tension all the time
if terrific where we fail doesn't matter
Paddy's left you you cannot live in I
 
I do not I do not I have not been in the
Birmingham situation at all
naturally I am concerned I have a son
pastor there with five grandchildren
there we must always be deeply
concerned about what happened but not just
what is plans and the plans of the
Birmingham people ---
and others at the moment I think we're
moving forward
well I would have to check again your
population and before I would make this
statement the ---
I have to look at your population and
what had you before I would say it seems
to be dispelled progress I have to be
seen tomorrow when I look at it I might
find something else what would you
say would be the worst evil from your
standpoint of segregation in Los Angeles
where is Los Angeles the most relaxed or
the most backward in a segregation
problem? in Los Angeles? yes I would like
to comment on that because I haven't
kept up close enough with all the
activities and what has happened in fact I
haven't been in Los Angeles in --- I mean a reverend here I've been in
Oakland and San Francisco but Los Angeles it's been about a year maybe since I've been here
so all I gather is what I
listen to somebody talking
leave to use losing trying to be very
unkind to get something that I don't do
not know in fact I want to continue
until we are you we have to worry
all you mean what would have active
position if just want to be immediate
attempt to find whatever I don't know
how much pleasure it would be I I don't
have the feeling now that' these
situations would a place but they made
slower flow to the fish and the driver
seemed harder and most testified
is all the best but I don't think any of this is going to discourage the
negro in such a way that he's going sit
down and say well we can't do it anymore
now we we lost our fight I don't think that if I'm understanding your question yeah thank you
