JOINING US NOW, FORMER CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR BARACK OBAMA IN
MANAGER FOR BARACK OBAMA IN 2008, MY FRIEND DAVID.
2008, MY FRIEND DAVID. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. I JUST SAID THE WORDS THAT JOE
I JUST SAID THE WORDS THAT JOE BIDEN’S DELEGATE LEAD IS
BIDEN’S DELEGATE LEAD IS EFFECTIVELY INSURMOUNTABLE.
EFFECTIVELY INSURMOUNTABLE. AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT?
AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THAT 300 LEAD MIGHT AS WELL BE
THAT 300 LEAD MIGHT AS WELL BE 3,000.
3,000. THERE’S NO WAY FOR BERNIE
THERE’S NO WAY FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO CATCH UP.
SANDERS TO CATCH UP. THEY KNOW THAT.
THEY KNOW THAT. VERY SMART PEOPLE RUNNING THAT
VERY SMART PEOPLE RUNNING THAT CAMPAIGN SO I THINK IT’S
CAMPAIGN SO I THINK IT’S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
APPROPRIATE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DECIDE HOW TO DO THAT BUT
DECIDE HOW TO DO THAT BUT REGARDLESS OF THE TIMING OF
REGARDLESS OF THE TIMING OF BERNIE SANDERS’ DECISION, JOE
BERNIE SANDERS’ DECISION, JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO MOVE ONTO THE
BIDEN NEEDS TO MOVE ONTO THE GENERAL ELECTION.
GENERAL ELECTION. IT’S ONLY SEVEN AND A HALF
IT’S ONLY SEVEN AND A HALF MONTHS AWAY, ONE OF THE MORE
MONTHS AWAY, ONE OF THE MORE CONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENTIAL
CONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN THE COUNTRY.
ELECTIONS IN THE COUNTRY. THEY’VE GOT TO GET INTO THESE
THEY’VE GOT TO GET INTO THESE BATTLEGROUND STATES AND START
BATTLEGROUND STATES AND START ORGANIZING.
ORGANIZING. EVERY DAY TALKING TO THE COUNTRY
EVERY DAY TALKING TO THE COUNTRY ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NOT
ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NOT JUST THE TRIAGE IN THE MOMENT
JUST THE TRIAGE IN THE MOMENT BUT CLEARLY THE ECONOMIC
BUT CLEARLY THE ECONOMIC DEVASTATION HERE IS GOING TO BE
DEVASTATION HERE IS GOING TO BE WITH US FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND
WITH US FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT’S GOING TO TAKE IS US A LONG
IT’S GOING TO TAKE IS US A LONG TIME TO DIG OUT OF IT.
TIME TO DIG OUT OF IT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU EXPERIENCED IN 2008 YOU KNEW
EXPERIENCED IN 2008 YOU KNEW THAT YOU NEEDED OR AT LEAST YOU
THAT YOU NEEDED OR AT LEAST YOU THOUGHT YOU NEEDED HILLARY
THOUGHT YOU NEEDED HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS TO BE ABLE TO
CLINTON SUPPORTERS TO BE ABLE TO BEAT JOHN McCAIN AND THE
BEAT JOHN McCAIN AND THE ORCHESTRATION OF HER EXIT FROM
ORCHESTRATION OF HER EXIT FROM THE RACE AND HER ENDORSEMENT OF
THE RACE AND HER ENDORSEMENT OF BARACK OBAMA, THESE WERE
BARACK OBAMA, THESE WERE COMPLICATED THINGS.
COMPLICATED THINGS. THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT JOE BIDEN
THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT JOE BIDEN NEEDS BERNIE SANDERS’ SUPPORTERS
NEEDS BERNIE SANDERS’ SUPPORTERS IF HE’S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BEAT
IF HE’S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. I KNOW YOU THINK IT’S GOING TO
I KNOW YOU THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A CLOSE GENERAL ELECTION.
BE A CLOSE GENERAL ELECTION. TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED TO GET THERE.
GET THERE. I KNOW YOU WANT JOE BIDEN TO
I KNOW YOU WANT JOE BIDEN TO MOVE ON AND START FOCUSING ON
MOVE ON AND START FOCUSING ON THE GENERAL ELECTION BUT I ALSO
THE GENERAL ELECTION BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU THINK HE’S GOT TO
KNOW THAT YOU THINK HE’S GOT TO MAKE THIS WORK, SO TALK ABOUT
MAKE THIS WORK, SO TALK ABOUT THAT DANCE AND HOW BIDEN SHOULD
THAT DANCE AND HOW BIDEN SHOULD APPROACH IT AND HOW SANDERS
APPROACH IT AND HOW SANDERS SHOULD APPROACH IT.
SHOULD APPROACH IT. >> PART OF GETTING READY FOR THE
>> PART OF GETTING READY FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION AND WINNING IT
GENERAL ELECTION AND WINNING IT IS TO HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT OF
IS TO HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT OF BERNIE SANDERS AND HIS CAMPAIGN
BERNIE SANDERS AND HIS CAMPAIGN TEAM AND AS MANY OF HIS
TEAM AND AS MANY OF HIS SUPPORTERS AS POSSIBLE.
SUPPORTERS AS POSSIBLE. I DON’T MEAN TO SUGGEST THAT
I DON’T MEAN TO SUGGEST THAT THAT’S NOT IMPORTANT.
THAT’S NOT IMPORTANT. THE PRINCIPLES ARE GOING TO BE
THE PRINCIPLES ARE GOING TO BE TALKING, THE CAMPAIGN LEADERSHIP
TALKING, THE CAMPAIGN LEADERSHIP IS GOING TO BE TALKING.
IS GOING TO BE TALKING. I THINK AS JOE BIDEN BEGINS TO
I THINK AS JOE BIDEN BEGINS TO PUT STAFF INTO BATTLEGROUND
PUT STAFF INTO BATTLEGROUND STATES FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION,
STATES FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION, THEY NEED TO BE INVITING SANDERS
THEY NEED TO BE INVITING SANDERS SUPPORTERS AND ORGANIZERS INTO
SUPPORTERS AND ORGANIZERS INTO THOSE MEETINGS TO LISTEN TO
THOSE MEETINGS TO LISTEN TO THEM, LEARN FROM THEM.
THEM, LEARN FROM THEM. THEN THE PUBLIC PART, AS YOU
THEN THE PUBLIC PART, AS YOU REMEMBER BACK IN ’08, JOHN, WE
REMEMBER BACK IN ’08, JOHN, WE HAD THE FASCINATING COINCIDENCE
HAD THE FASCINATING COINCIDENCE THAT IN UNITY, NEW HAMPSHIRE
THAT IN UNITY, NEW HAMPSHIRE OBAMA HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF
OBAMA HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOTES.
VOTES. THE PUBLIC ORCHESTRATION IS
THE PUBLIC ORCHESTRATION IS IMPORTANT BUT THERE’S AN IMMENSE
IMPORTANT BUT THERE’S AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF WORK BEHIND THE
AMOUNT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
SCENES. IF I WAS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN I’D
IF I WAS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN I’D THINK ABOUT IN THE SANDERS TEAM
THINK ABOUT IN THE SANDERS TEAM WHO WOULD BE A GOOD FIT
WHO WOULD BE A GOOD FIT CULTURAL-WISE AND
CULTURAL-WISE AND EXPERIENCE-WISE IN OUR CAMPAIGN
EXPERIENCE-WISE IN OUR CAMPAIGN AND THE SIGNAL HAS TO GO OUT.
AND THE SIGNAL HAS TO GO OUT. WHEN SANDERS SUPPORTERS AND
WHEN SANDERS SUPPORTERS AND ORGANIZERS ARE READY, WE NEED,
ORGANIZERS ARE READY, WE NEED, YOU WE WANT YOU, YOU CAN’T WIN
YOU WE WANT YOU, YOU CAN’T WIN OUT YOU.
OUT YOU. SO AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF
SO AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF BUSINESS AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO
BUSINESS AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. >> WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVISE TO
>> WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVISE TO BERNIE SANDERS?
BERNIE SANDERS? IN 2016 HE WAS BACK.
IN 2016 HE WAS BACK. IT WAS MATHEMATICALLY
IT WAS MATHEMATICALLY INSURMOUNTABLE TO THE HILLARY
INSURMOUNTABLE TO THE HILLARY CLINTON LEAD AND YET HE FOUGHT
CLINTON LEAD AND YET HE FOUGHT ON PAST THE END OF THE
ON PAST THE END OF THE NOMINATION FIGHT AND TOOK THE
NOMINATION FIGHT AND TOOK THE FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE
FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION.
CONVENTION. WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT IT’S GOING
WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IN 2020 THAN IT
TO BE DIFFERENT IN 2020 THAN IT WAS IN 2016 FOR SENATOR SANDERS?
WAS IN 2016 FOR SENATOR SANDERS? SANDERS?
SANDERS? >> TWO WORDS.
>> TWO WORDS. DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. HE’S WINNING.
HE’S WINNING. EVEN OUR RACE IN ’08.
EVEN OUR RACE IN ’08. IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU COVERED US
IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU COVERED US CLOSELY.
CLOSELY. REALLY FOR THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE
REALLY FOR THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE TURNED THE GENERAL ELECTION.
TURNED THE GENERAL ELECTION. HILLARY WAS STILL IN IT.
HILLARY WAS STILL IN IT. 2016 WAS AN OPEN SEAT RACE WHERE
2016 WAS AN OPEN SEAT RACE WHERE I THINK EVERYBODY THOUGHT TRUMP
I THINK EVERYBODY THOUGHT TRUMP WAS GOING TO LOSE.
WAS GOING TO LOSE. THIS IS NOT.
THIS IS NOT. WE HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION
WE HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION THAT’S ALREADY STARTED FOR
THAT’S ALREADY STARTED FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. TRUMP IS RUNNING A GENERAL
TRUMP IS RUNNING A GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN IN THE
ELECTION CAMPAIGN IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES.
BATTLEGROUND STATES. WE DON’T HAVE A MOMENT OR DAY TO
WE DON’T HAVE A MOMENT OR DAY TO LOSE.
LOSE. SO THAT’S WHAT I THINK IS
SO THAT’S WHAT I THINK IS DIFFERENT AND I THINK BERNIE
DIFFERENT AND I THINK BERNIE SANDERS HAS SPOKEN POWERFULLY TO
SANDERS HAS SPOKEN POWERFULLY TO THAT WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS.
THAT WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS. THE OTHER THING WHAT’S CLEAR IS
