last night nvidia did their live stream
and Jensen delivered the news
that a lot of us tech enthusiasts have
been waiting for and that is
rtx 3000. now they've announced three
different
products and that is the rtx 3090 the
rtx 3080
and the rtx 3070 but what we have seen
already is that another youtube channel
called digital foundry
has uploaded gameplay footage with
percentage differences
between an rtx 3080 and an rtx 2080. so
in today's video
i'm going to be doing some educated
guesswork with the numbers that we
already see
in that we're going to grab those
percentage numbers convert them back to
fps
and then guess the performance of the
rtx 3070
and also the 3090 and even compare that
to the rtx 2080 ti
to see the value propositions of these
new cards
in a number that's easy to digest let's
get on with it
straight away looking at the numbers in
the cuda core account from nvidia's own
website
we can see that this is essentially cuda
core is nvidia's name for shader
and amd call it stream processor what
they're doing here is
something that you can't really compare
directly with the rtx 2000 series or
turing
versus the new generation ampere because
in one of the illustrations
and one of the videos that they showed
they had the shader like literally
splitting into two
kind of doing some matrix agent smith
duplication kind of thing here and so
what they're doing with the cuda core
performance
and also the cuda core count is actually
a lot different
than the previous generation so
basically if you got out your good old
calculator and you said oh wow
the 3070 has 5888 cuda cores
and the 2080i only has 4 352
and then you said okay it's going to be
35 faster you would actually be making a
wrong guess
at least in my opinion and reason being
is because what we can do however
is look at the fps that's already out
there on that 3080
versus that 2080 comparison that we saw
over digital foundries
basically it wasn't an fps comparison
but again we'll throw it back in let's
say
the 2080 is a 100 fps baseline and what
they showed was the 3080
was performing 80 faster so we can
convert those numbers
now into fps so we've got 180 fps versus
100 fps
on the 2080 and so from here what we can
do is actually
then grab those cuda cores on the same
generation and start to derive some
numbers this is a fair practice
for guesstimating numbers you just can't
compare them from different generations
because
there's changes in the architecture so
what we're going to see here i
feel is that a 2080 ti is roughly 25
percent faster than the 2080
and so we put that in 125 fps and then
we see that the rtx 3090
is going to be about 20 percent faster
than the
3080 so we put that in around 216 fps
now the 3070 actually has a lot lower
cuda core count
than the 3080 as well as the 3090 those
being 8704
and 10 496 cuda cores respectively
there's also 28 billion transistors
on both the higher core count gpus
versus the 17 billion on the 30 70 and
the 18.6 billion
on the 2080 ti and so what this means is
the rtx 3080 is actually going to be a
cut down version of the rtx 3090
rather than the 3070 being cut down
version of the 3080 that's actually
going to be a different die
and size altogether and then basically
taking the rtx 3070 cuda core count
comparing it to the 3080
we're going to have around 68 of that
shading performance available
on the 3070. however one big difference
here is that they're using gddr6
memory on both the 38 and 3090 so that's
going to have more throughput
as well as a bigger memory bus compared
to the 37 whereas the rtx 37 is gonna
have gdr6 memory
the same as the 2080 ti albeit it is
going to be clocked
at 16 gigabits per second versus 14
gigabits per second
on that 2080 ti so significantly higher
memory speeds and drastically higher
cuda core counts
is going to make the 30 80 and also the
30 90 in a different league
compared to that of the 30 70 and
subsequently the 2080 ti which if i had
to guesstimate on the 30 70 now
you can maybe expect around 120 fps
versus 125 on the 2080 ti so
although nvidia is saying that you're
going to get pretty much the same
performance
as the 2080 ti i believe it'll be a
little bit lower on release
and then of course with driver
optimizations over time you will see the
3070 beat out the 2080 ti
and so with those guesstimated numbers
out there we can look at the value
proposition of the cars themselves where
the rtx
3070 is going to come in with a 500
price point
releasing in october and i'm going to
guess that that is early october
because they're going to want to get
these cards out to market as soon as
possible
whereas opposed to the 3080 that's
coming out on september 17th and then
the rtx 3090 is about a week
later so the 38 is actually going to hit
the market first and i believe it's
going to be one of the best value cards
in this lineup coming in with
performance of a value proposition at
least versus the 2080 ti
of what my numbers would guess here is
186 percent
roughly 44 more fps and roughly 42
percent better valuable
costing 70 of the original thousand
dollar 2080 ti
it's going to deliver much better fps
it's also going to be much more power
efficient
and also deliver a better price point
then look at the rtx 3070
that will be roughly just under 200 of
the value
of an rtx 2080 ti so that will edge out
the 3080
but in the realm of getting the max fps
possible
that's why i'm leaning towards the rtx
3080 actually being one of the best
buyers for enthusiast tech heads out
there with this current lineup though
lastly the big fish in the room the rtx
3090
coming in with roughly 20 more
performance than the rtx 3080
they're costing over double the price is
not going to be a value proposition
it's also going to be designed for
someone who wants to do say more 8k
gaming with the 24 gigabyte vram buffer
so it's going to have significantly more
vram than the 3080 coming in with 10
gigabytes of that stuff
versus the 24 gigabytes and another
thing about the 3092 is it's got the
ability at least from nvidia's website
to be able to be put into nvlink so if
you want to do some serious 8k
gaming with max ultra details and of
course you've got an endless supply of
money
within that wallet of yours then nvidia
is certainly going to be giving you
that option so when we put it into a
nutshell rtx 3090 is not really going to
be a value play
but it's going to be for someone who
wants the best experience possible on pc
and of course they have
a lot of money then we've got the value
plays they're going to be the rtx 3080
and 3070 and also the upcoming 3060 i'm
guessing
is going to be bringing really good
value to the table too so
those numbers aside that's only half
this video where we're looking at the
raw price performance figures and i'm
just having a bit of fun
guesstimating the value and the numbers
that are going to come out of these
cards
what nvidia showed in their presentation
was a lot of
different things in terms of not just
they're moving to eight nanometers so
you're going to get
better performance per watt or better
efficiency out of these cards
but they're also showing things like
improved ray tracing performance more
tensor cores
and also the shaders which they're
saying are going to be more efficient
too
but on top of that they were working on
dlss 2.0
which is essentially their super
sampling tech which is going to be
giving
a better image but also giving more fps
because it's doing it while super
sampling up from an inferior image
previously
to fill in and basically let the gpu do
the prediction
on the image quality so at least that's
my interpretation of it the next thing
they announced on top of the gpu launch
was
one that was really cool for me
personally and this was the reflex
technology
and that is that they hope to reduce the
input lag by essentially working with
the game developers to offer a new mode
that's going to offer overall better
input latency so what we can see with
this graph that they showed here
was that they had the average system
input latency and at the end of the
graph we could see that that line had
moved
drastically to the left but at the start
of the graph the line had only moved a
little bit to the right so
basically what they're saying is they're
going to be looking uh
working with the game developers is my
guess again
in that they're going to be making sure
that the slowest frames
or the stuttering or micro stuttering is
eliminated from the game
by drawing the gpu frames as fast as
possible another good thing is you don't
have to own an rtx 3000 card
to get this technology they're going to
be introducing it released from the
graphs
with gpus like the gtx 10 series and rtx
2000 series as well
though another thing they did announce
was with a new series of monitors
they've got these 360 hertz monitors
coming out but they're going to be
adding
an input latency or system latency
module into the monitors themselves so
you monitor things like your pc latency
your mouse latency or your total system
input latency
including the monitors by using this
module so
that's going to bring for some really
cool comparisons
where i've been doing these in the past
with 1000 fps camera
i'm going to be definitely testing that
against the 1000 fps camera
and just seeing how cool this module
really is where a lot of mouse reviewers
out there
especially my friend rocket jump ninja
could really use
a technology like this when they're
doing their mice reviews just to get you
guys
exact mouse input latency figures but
speaking of reducing
input output they did talk about rtx io
which essentially looks to get really
fast gen 4
ssds and load up things like textures
and
map pop-ins just directly from the ssd
to the gpu
where as opposed to beforehand it would
have to go all the way through the cpu
pipeline
and then out to the gpu so nvidia claims
this will bring more fps
as well as reduced input latency on top
of
reducing input latencies by working with
the game developers
and their apis so performance figures
latency figures we're done talking about
that but they also announced rtx
broadcast
in their software suite which is
essentially going to help streamers
without green screens so
even like i'm using this backdrop here i
won't need a green screen and i could
put myself in the middle of new york
bringing a live stream minus the ambient
noise well actually even if you had the
ambient noise i think they got the rtx
voice thing
that could cancel out the ambient noise
so you could just say hey i'm actually
in new york
and maybe people would believe you or
they wouldn't believe you
but this is essentially using your gpu
just like rtx voice did
to process the background and eliminate
it and just keep the subject in focus
how well that's actually going to work
just in say a setup like mine
i will test for you guys when we get the
gpus as well as testing
everything like this input latency
numbers the performance
when i get these cards in and i start
testing them when the review embargoes
drop
i'll just give you guys the numbers
straight and of course if you've got
special requests on the testing
that you want to see then do drop a
comment in the comment section below and
also let us know in the comment section
below
is this the gpu launch you've been
waiting for which are the cards are you
looking at getting or are you going to
wait
for say the rtx 3060 and possibly an rtx
3050
to come out before you get your next
lineup of gpu
in that rig of yours though before we
get on out here there's one more thing
to talk about and that is the coolers
and the power connectors that they've
announced now they've listed on their
website the 3090 is going to have 350
watt power requirement and with that
power supply recommendations of 750
watts just to be on the safe side
and that continues for the 3080 with its
power requirement of 320 watts
then down to the 3070 which is 220 watts
and
recommended power supply is 650 watt
though the 12 pin power connector this
was seen in the video footage
so that will be a thing though i'm
guessing nvidia is just going to throw
in an adapter
so if you've got a currently good high
powered power supply you're going to
have to worry about this and i believe
this is going to be the way
for quite some time to come though we
are seeing custom aib models being
shown out there in the wild and a lot of
them are just still going with the eight
pin connectors
and in the case of a zeus i can see a
three eight pin requirement there so
the 3090 is going to need a bit of power
but at the same time it's going to be a
very powerful gpu
so naturally with that extra power
consumption you're going to have to need
four extra power connectors or in the
case of nvidia
introducing a new 12 pin power connector
though the cooling design itself on the
reference model is something to i guess
look at and wait and see and see how it
performs because
the science and at least from what they
show with the illustrations does make a
lot of sense where
you're going to have one part of the gpu
venting out like a traditional reference
card
but then you're going to have the fresh
air in a good airflow case by the way
and i'm guessing in video saying well
since you're buying these higher end
cards you're most likely going to have a
higher end case with good airflow so
this is designed for a higher airflow
case scenario
where the back of the gpu is then going
to flow air
out over the cpu so would this make
hotter cpu
temps or is this designed with aio
water coolers in mind i'll give you guys
the numbers when that drops here at the
channel
in the meantime a lot of the aib
partners are just going with the
traditional
just fans blowing air onto the gpu seems
to work and it has worked for quite some
time
it's still going to work absolutely fine
and of course back to that age-old
saying if it ain't broke
don't fix it so speaking of not fixing
things this question of the day we don't
really need to fix it it's from angelo
king
and they asked do you know the name of
your wallpaper it looks nice in the
background
and the wallpaper that i'm currently
rocking right now is a photo that we
took
locally here actually rocket jump
ninja's eye he took that photo
and it's just of the beautiful ray trace
sunset on the gold coast here so
if you guys want uh this photo i can
just maybe google drive it for you
and you can rock it as your background
if you wish to as well and with that
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