
Chinese: 
大家早上好
首先感謝Google香港的邀請
我很榮幸今天能站在這裡
我希望透過今天的活動
我們雙方都會玩得很開心愉快
如果任何時間你有話想說
或要問問題，請隨時舉手
當初我收到Google邀請
來Google香港演講的時候
我就在想：
究竟我可以在Google講甚麼呢？
當我需要尋找任何資料的時候
我會第一時間想到你們Google
無論是透過搜索引擎也好
Google地圖也好，就會找到答案
我很喜歡旅遊
我喜歡當背包客
背上背包就走出去看看世界
所以我常常會用Google地圖
最近我想多練習日語
想我的日文講得更好
所以我每天常常會問Google助理

Chinese: 
大家早上好
首先想感谢Google香港的邀请
我很荣幸今天能站在这里
我希望透过今天的活动
让我们双方都会玩的很开心愉快
如果在任何时间你有话想说
或要问问题，请随时举手
当初我收到Google邀请
来Google香港演讲的时候
我就在想：
究竟我可以在Google讲些什么呢？
当我需要寻找任何资料的时候
我会第一时间想到你们Google
无论是透过搜索引擎也好
Google地图也好，就会找到答案
我很喜欢旅游
我喜欢当背包客
背上包就走出去看看世界
所以我常常会用Google地图
最近我想要多练习日语
想让我的日文讲得更好
所以我每天常常会问Google 助理

English: 
[MUSIC PLAYING]
NICHOLAS TSE: Good morning,
ladies and gentlemen.
It's an honor to be here.
Thank you for having
me at Google Hong Kong.
Yeah.
I hope today
through this session
both parties can have a blast.
And at any time if you feel that
you want to voice out or ask
questions, please feel free.
OK.
So when I first
got the invitation
to come to Google Hong Kong,
I was thinking to myself,
what the hell am I
going to do at Google?
Seriously.
Because you guys
are the people I
go to when I look at my stuff.
Seriously.
It could be through
the search engine.
It could be through maps.
I like to travel a lot.
I could throw on a backpack
and just wander off somewhere
into the world
and see the world.
So I'm always
navigating through maps.
And lately, actually,
speaking of which,
I've been trying to pick
up on more Japanese.

Chinese: 
(日语）明天的预约是从几点开始?
我最近想学更多的日文
所以Google翻译成为了我的好朋友
因为每天的时间有限
所以我每天不得不逼着自己
用日语来和我的手机沟通
但必须说的是
有时候Google翻译出来的东西
还是有一些点怪
但80%的时候还是非常不错的
所以感谢Google
是你们让我的生活变得更轻松
我每天都会访问
你们Google的网站很多遍
但我今天来不是要说
我们能用Google做些什么

Chinese: 
(日語）明天的會議從幾點開始?
我最近想學更多的日文
所以Google翻譯成為了我的好朋友
因為每天的時間有限
所以我每天不得不
逼著自己用日語來和我的手機溝通
但必須說的是
有時候Google翻譯出來的東西
還是有點怪
但80%的時候還是非常不錯的
所以感謝Google
是你們讓我的生活變得更輕鬆
我每天都會
瀏覽你們Google的網站很多次
但我今天來不是要說
我們能用Google做些甚麼

English: 
So I do this a
lot now every day.
Hey Siri-san.
SIRI: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]
NICHOLAS TSE:
[SPEAKING JAPANESE]
SIRI: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]
NICHOLAS TSE: I've been trying
to pick up on more Japanese.
So lately I've made Google
Translate my best friend.
So I've even--
[CROWD CHEERING]
I'm even forcing my
smartphone to converse
in Japanese with me, because
we only have 24 hours a day.
So yeah.
But I must say, sometimes
the translations
are still a bit funky.
But 80% of the time it
does the job very well.
So thank you for
whoever out there that's
making my life a lot easier.
So yes.
I do visit you guys very,
very often every day.
But I'm not here to talk
about what we can Google.
I think you guys
out of everybody

English: 
knows best what we can
search on the internet.
But maybe today we could touch
on some other keywords where we
cannot fully understand
through the internet,
maybe keywords like creativity.
I think creativity for me,
it's the biggest thing.
Either it be through my music,
or my food shows, or movies,
or my business.
Because I think without
creativity we cannot really
ensure our place in the market.
And eventually you will be
left behind in the world.
Creativity comes in many
different forms and styles,
I guess.
It doesn't have to
be through movies
or that kind of artistry.
It could be through tennis.
It could be through agriculture,
architecture, woodworking,
lecturing, whatever it may be.
It could be through
programming or engineering.
I think if Google
was not as creative

Chinese: 
这一点我相信你们在座各位比谁都要清楚
今天我想我们可以讨论一些
生活中的关键词
一些单靠互联网无法全面了解的关键词
例如“创意”
对我来说，创意是最重要的東西
无论是透过我的音乐
我的电视节目和电影
还是我的生意
因为我觉得，如果没有创意
我们就不能巩固我们在市场的位置
迟早我们会被取代掉
创意有很多不同的形式和风格
不一定要透过电影或艺术
可以透过网球
透过农业、
建筑、木工、讲课，无论什么都可以
我认为可以通过编程或工程展示

Chinese: 
這一點我相信你們在座各位
比誰都更清楚
今天我想討論一些生活中的關鍵字
一些單靠互聯網無法全面了解的關鍵字
例如“創意”
對我來說，創意是最重要的東西
無論是透過我的音樂
我的電視節目和電影
還是我的生意
因為我覺得，如果沒有創意
我們就不能鞏固我們在市場的位置
遲早我們會被取代
創意有很多不同的形式和風格
不一定要透過電影或藝術
可以透過網球
透過農業、
建築、木工、授課，無論甚麼都可以
我認為可以通過編程或工程展示

English: 
when they were doing the
algorithms back then,
it would not be
what it is today.
So a lot of people
would say, yeah,
I'm not the creative type.
No.
We all are.
We just have to
find that one edge.
We have to find how we can
synergize and capitalize
on that on our own strengths.
But it is getting harder
and harder to be creative,
I think, in this world,
because everyday we
are flooded by so much
content in our phones.
All the blogs that we
look at, all the comments,
all the likes, all the
streaming, all the films.
Everything.
But unknowingly,
unknowingly we are so almost
too inspired to a point where
we are losing ourselves,
because we are taking in
everybody else's ideas--
their thoughts, their voices.

Chinese: 
我認為，如果當年Google創辦人
設計演算法的時候沒有創意
Google就不會是
今天的Google
很多人會說“我就是沒有創意”
不，我們全部都有創意
我們只需要找到一個優勢
我們必須找到如何協同發揮
和充分利用自己的優勢
但我覺得現在要有創意是愈來愈難
每天我們的手機裡都充斥著
各種不同的內容
我們所看的網誌、留言、點讚
所有的影片、電影，等等
我們在不知不覺中被過度啟發
從而失去自我
因為我們不斷地吸收別人的主意、
別人的想法
別人的聲音

Chinese: 
我认为，如果当年Google创办人
设计算法的时候没有创意
Google就不会是今天的Google
很多人会说“我就是没创意”
不，我们全部都有创意
我们只需要找到一个优势
我们必须找到如何协同发挥
和充分利用自己的优势
但我觉得现在要有创意是愈来愈难了
每天我们的手机里都充斥着
各种不同的内容
我们所看的博客、留言、点赞
所有的视频、电影，等等
我们在不知不觉中被过度启发
从而失去自我
因为我们不断地吸收别人的主意、
别人的想法
别人的声音

Chinese: 
所以如果我们不够创意
我们就会常常会依頼别人的想法
我们模仿、我们做些修改
广东话中我们把这个叫做二次创作
但是如果我们习惯了这样做
我们就会忘記了需要原创的重要性
需要有真正创意
就是需要有自己的想法
缺乏创意对我来说
是一件非常非常危险的事
如果你的东西跟别人的没两样
如果你对公司的贡献其实跟其他人差不多
那我告诉你，明年你就不在了
公司不再需要你了
早晚市场也不需要你了
世界很快也都不需要你了
所以你要不断的问自己
你如何能够比你身边的人贡献更多

English: 
Therefore, if we are
not creative enough,
we tend to what we call--
we would ride on
other people's ideas.
Let's twist.
Let's tweak.
Let's-- in [INAUDIBLE] we
would say [SPEAKING CHINESE]..
But when we get into
a habit of that,
we forget about being original,
being really creative,
starting our own ideas.
And to me that is very, very
dangerous, because if what
you put out is no different
than the person next to you,
if what you contribute
to the company
is just the same as
everybody else in the room,
let me tell you something.
Next year you won't be here.
The company doesn't need you.
Eventually the market
doesn't need you.
And the world--
they don't need you.
So constantly ask
yourself how you

Chinese: 
所以如果我們不夠創意
我們就會常常會依賴別人的想法
我們模仿、修改
廣東話把這些叫做二次創作
但是如果我們習慣了這樣做
我們就會忘記了需要原創的重要性
需要有真正創意
就是需要有自己的想法
缺乏創意對我來說
是一件非常非常危險的事
如果你的東西跟別人的沒有甚麼分別
如果你對公司的貢獻其實跟其他人差不多
那我告訴你，明年你就不在了
公司不再需要你了
遲早市場也不需要你了
世界很快也都不需要你了
所以你要不斷地問自己
你如何能夠比你身邊的人貢獻更多

Chinese: 
我在这个行业超过22年了，我告诉你
我每天都问自己这个问题
每天，无论是通过音乐、电影、
我的电视节目，以至我的生意
我如何可以更有创意？
这真的很难
而且有些行业会比其他行业更难
其实还会越来越难
拿音乐来说吧
我觉得现在创作一首好听的曲
比起15、20年前更难
因为音符组合都被用过了
现在要写一首原创的歌曲
让它听起来不像任何一首老歌非常难
因为已经有人写过了
我们世界正面临着这个状况

Chinese: 
我在這個行業超過22年了，我告訴你
我每天都問自己這個問題
每天，無論是通過音樂、電影、
我的電視節目，以及我的生意
我如何可以更有創意？
這真的很難
而且有些行業會比其他行業更難
其實還會越來越難
拿音樂做例子
我覺得現在創作一首好聽的曲
比起15、20年前更難
因為音符組合都被用過了
現在要寫一首原創的歌曲
讓它聽起來不像任何一首老歌非常難
因為已經有人寫過了
我們世界正面臨著這個狀況

English: 
can contribute more than
the person next to you.
I've been in my industry
for more than 22 years now.
And I tell you, I ask myself
that question every damn day.
Every day.
Through music, through
film, through my shows,
through my business.
How do I be more creative?
That is very, very hard.
And maybe even in some fields,
it's getting harder and harder.
Like in music, I would say
that it is harder for me
now to compose a very
good piece of music
than it was 15, 20 years
ago, because the time
signatures or the
combinations of the notes
are simply being taken up.
It is harder to write
something original than now
and have it not sound like that
it has been written by someone,
sometime, like some
song back then.
Because it's been done.
But in our world,
that's what is happening

English: 
is because all the ideas
are being voiced up.
And we are seeing it.
So if we don't voice out
loud enough, clear enough,
soon enough, we are
actually behind.
So I urge you--
the first key word that
I would want to touch on
is actually creativity.
Does anybody have
anything to say?
Any other things that
you want to talk about?
Another word I would say is--
a keyword for me is
experience, especially--
well, experience in terms of the
verb experience, not the noun
experience,
especially for you lot
where your work
requires you to sit
behind a desk and a computer
the whole day, maybe
the whole year.
But I would say that
it is very important
to get out there to the world
and really experience it.
Because I think the phone
still only brings you halfway.

Chinese: 
很多的主意都被說出來了
所以如果你的聲音不夠大
不夠清晰的話，很快你就會落後
所以我要說
我想談的第一個關鍵字是“創意”
在場有沒有人想要說甚麼？
你們有別的想一起談嗎？
另一個關鍵字我想討論的是“體驗”
特別是“體驗”這個動詞
而不是名詞
特別是對於你們常常需要整天
甚至是整年都坐在電腦前工作的人士
我覺得能夠走出去看看
看看這個世界有多大
這是很重要的
因為你的手機只能帶來體驗旅程的一半
另外那一半需要你自己用腳去走

Chinese: 
很多的主意都被说出来了
所以如果你的声音不够大
不够清晰的话，很快你就会落后
所以我要说
我想谈的第一个关键字是“创意”
在场有没有人想要说点什么？
你们有别的想一起谈的吗？
另一个关键字我想讨论的是“体验”
特别是“体验”这个动词
而不是名词
特别是对于你们常常需要整天
甚至是整年都坐在电脑前工作的人士
我觉得能够走出去看看
看看这个世界有多大
这是很重要的
因为你的手机只能带来体验旅程的一半
另外那一半需要你自己用脚去走

English: 
And you must walk
the other half.
You know, nowadays
when I'm chatting
with a lot of the younger
generation kids, what really
happens a lot is that
maybe the topic would
be along the line
of, man, I was in--
I was-- I was in
Finland last weekend.
The Aurora lights,
they were beautiful.
And then the kid would
say something like, yeah.
I know.
I know.
I saw it on YouTube.
Or yeah, yeah.
That was really cool.
I saw it on Facebook.
Yeah.
OK.
Sure.
I'm sure it's an opening.
It's an idea.
It's a glimpse of
what it really is.
But if that's how
you see things,
you don't know (WHISPERED).
Again, it's a great
entrance to the world.
But it's halfway.
Please, when the opportunity
allows, get off your butt
and walk the other half, which
may be even more important.
OK.
Experience the world.

Chinese: 
现在当我和一些年轻人聊天的时候
很多时候譬如说到
“我上周在芬兰
看到那个北极光超漂亮的”
然后对方就会回答说
“对，我知道
我在YouTube上面看过”
或者“对对对，真的很酷
有在Facebook上面看到”
好吧，我知道这是一个起点
一个可以让我们看到世界各地的渠道
但是如果这就是你见识世界的方式
那你真的什么都没见过！
的确这是一个感受世界的渠道
但这能只是体验旅程的一半
我恳求你，如果有机会的话
请从沙发上站起来，去真正体验另一半
那才是最重要的

Chinese: 
現在當我和一些年青人聊天的時候
很多時候譬如說到
“我上週在芬蘭
看到那個北極光超漂亮的”
然後對方就會回答說
“對，我知道
我在YouTube上看過”
或者“對，真的很厲害
我有在Facebook上看到”
好吧，我知道這是一個起點
一個可以讓我們看到世界各地的渠道
但是如果這就是你見識世界的方式
那你真的甚麼都沒見過！
這確實是一個感受世界的渠道
但這只是能體驗旅程的一半
我懇求你，如果有機會
請從沙發上站起來，去真正體驗另一半
那才是最重要

Chinese: 
體驗一下這個世界，我們的手機很棒
互聯網很棒
但動身走出去體驗世界才算完美
現在是不是太早了？
你們怎麼看起來這麼沒精神
James，不如我們來看看
現場有沒有問題吧？
有沒有人有問題，可以隨時發問
我們常常想的一件事是如何回饋社會
你剛剛提到了創意、體驗
也提了很多我們平時的生活
都過度依賴屏幕
之間互動交流也不多
在Google
我們會花很多時間去思考
我們能為香港做甚麼
如何支持非牟利機構
如何為學校提供服務
例如教孩子們如何編程
你會有甚麼建議
不單是我們
還有一群有興趣為香港做事的年青人
如何開始
如何思考，你又會採取甚麼方法
謝謝
謝謝
我覺得你們繼續做你們正在做的事情就好

English: 
OK.
The phone is awesome.
The net is awesome.
But that is halfway, halfway.
Is it too early for
you guys, because you
guys look kind of stale.
[LAUGHTER]
James, maybe we could
start with a more Q&A.
If anybody wants,
please jump in.
AUDIENCE: One of the
things that is on our minds
is also giving back
about creativity,
it's about experience.
A lot of that is
because we're sort
of going through life
through a screen,
and we're not interacting much.
Here at Google we spent a lot
of time thinking about what
we're doing for Hong Kong, how
we're supporting non-profits,
how we're providing
services for schools--
training kids that
code, for example.
What advice do you have for
us, and also for the broader
millennial crowd who is
interested in doing something
for Hong Kong?
How to get started.
How to think about that.
And what approach to take.
Thank you.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
I think keep doing
what you're doing.
Really.

Chinese: 
体验一下这个世界，我们的手机很棒
互联网很棒
但动身走出去体验世界才算完美
是不是现在太早了啊？
你们怎么看起来这么没精神
James，要不我们来看看
有没有现场的问题吧？
有没有人有问题，可以随时先问问题
我们常常想的一件事是如何回馈社会
你刚刚提到了创意、体验
也提了很多我们平时的生活
都过度依赖屏幕
互相之间交流也不多
在Google
我们会花很多时间去思考
我们能为香港做些什么
如何支持非营利机构
如何为学校提供服务
譬如教孩子们如何编程
你会有什么建议
不仅仅是我们
还有一群有兴趣为香港做事的年轻人
如何开始
如何思考，你又会采取什么方法
谢谢
谢谢
我觉得你们继续做你们正在做的事情就好

English: 
But we cannot lose the--
what we're trying to do is
share, I think, in this era.
And of course, sharing comes
in different forms also.
And that's what
Chef Nic, the brand,
is trying to do is
because I think even now,
when you see families going
off to go out to dinners,
they're eating through
looking through their--
looking through their
phones the whole time.
Actually, that's
losing the true essence
of why we are eating together.
And that's what we're trying to
promote through the "Chef Nic"
show is [SPEAKING CHINESE].
What is [SPEAKING CHINESE] is to
actually enjoy a meal together.
And that's why-- that's what
cooking has also taught me.
is let me tell you.
I was in really, really
bad terms with my parents
for the longest time.
I was in boarding school
ever since I was 12.
And then at the age of
14, I was sent to Tokyo

Chinese: 
但我覺得現在我們可以嘗試有更多分享
當然，分享也有很多不同的形式
這正是我們《鋒味》嘗試在做的
因為我現在看到一家人外出吃飯
他們常常會一邊吃，一邊看手機
其實，這已經失去了一起吃飯的精萃
我們想透過《鋒味》來推廣
為甚麼我們要一起吃飯？
甚麼叫做“一起吃飯”？
其實就是一起共享一餐飯
這是烹飪教曉我的事
我告訴你
有很長一段時間我與父母的關係非常差
我12歲起就被送去寄宿學校

Chinese: 
但我觉得现在我们可以尝试有更多分享
当然，分享也有很多不同的形式
这正是我们《锋味》尝试在做的
因为我现在看到一家人外出吃饭
他们常常会一边吃，一边看手机
其实，这已经失去了一起吃饭的精萃
我们想透过《锋味》来推广
为什么我们要一起吃饭？
什么叫做“一起吃饭”？
其实就是一起共享一顿饭
这是烹饪教晓我的事
我告诉你
有很长一段时间我与父母的关系非常糟糕
我12岁起就被送去寄宿学校

Chinese: 
14歲去東京接受音樂訓練
16歲正式出道
我從來沒有機會和父母好好相處過
直到我開始學廚，我們的關係才開始好轉
當你煮飯的時候
你不會一個人吃你煮的菜
你會想和別人分享
你會想要別人給你意見
煮飯給了我一個媒介去和父母溝通
例如說“爸
你要不要試試我煮的這個？”
或者“媽，你以前煮的那個很好吃
你能教我嗎？”
然後這慢慢變成了一種習慣
食物的質素重不重要？當然重要
但是我覺得最重要的是
你如何找到自己分享的方式
我覺得如果你能繼續做你們正在做的
但同時考慮一下第三方以及大環境
那就會更好

Chinese: 
14岁去东京接受音乐训练
16岁正式出道
我从来没有机会和父母好好相处过
直到我开始学厨，我们的关系才开始好转
当你煮饭的时候
你做的菜你不会一个人全吃了
你会想和别人分享
你会想要别人给你反馈
做饭给了我一个媒介去和父母沟通
譬如说
“爸，你要不要试试我做的这个？”
或者“妈，你以前做的那个很好吃
你能教我吗？”
然后这漫漫变成了一种习惯
食物的质量重不重要？当然重要
但是我觉得最重要的是
你如何找到自己分享的方式
我觉得如果你能继续做你们正在做的
但同时考虑一下
第三方以及大环境，那就会更好

English: 
to start training in music.
By 16, I started working.
And I never really
got a chance to have
a relationship with my parents.
And we've been on bad
terms for the longest time,
until, until I started cooking.
Because when you cook, it's the
food-- you don't eat it alone.
You want to share it.
You want to get some feedbacks.
And it gave me a
medium to know how
to talk to my parents and
say, [SPEAKING CHINESE]..
Or Mom, and [SPEAKING CHINESE].
Whatever you cooked back
then was really cool.
And you want to teach me?
It became-- now it's
a habit, you know.
Does the food matter?
Of course it does.
But what really matters is how
you find your way to share.
And I think keep doing
what you're doing.
But if you can think
of the third party,

English: 
then I think that the whole
picture is much bigger.
JAMES TAO: Cool.
Why don't you take a seat.
NICHOLAS TSE: OK.
JAMES TAO: We'll chat a little
bit and get comfortable.
It was very inspiring
talk hearing talk
about creativity and the
journey where you just
mentioned how cooking brought
you and your family closer
together.
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
JAMES TAO: So a little
bit on "Chef Nic."
It's now in its fifth season.
We're seeing a lot of traction
both online and offline.
But I want to kind of turn
back the clock back to 2014.
What besides what you just
mentioned about the parents
thing-- but what was the
thing that made you transition
from the singer, the actor
[INAUDIBLE] to Chef Nic?
And what was that
transition like?
NICHOLAS TSE: I didn't think I--
I wasn't looking for
a transition, really.
I thought I could do
everything together.
Right?
I'm still doing music.
I'm still doing films.
It's weird, because
people look at this

Chinese: 
不如你坐下，我们来慢慢聊吧
刚才听你讲关于创意以及烹饪
如何让你和你家人的关系更加紧密
相信让大家很有启发
目前《锋味》这个节目已经踏入第五季
无论是线上或线下都看到了很多的牵引力
但是我想回到2014年
除了你刚才提到关于父母的事情
有没有其他事情让你从
歌手、演员转变为一位大厨？
这当中有一个怎样的过渡？
我其实没有要寻找一个转变
我认为我可以同时做好所有事情，对吧？
我还在做音乐
我还在做电影
某种程度上我认为这很奇怪

Chinese: 
不如你坐下，我們來慢慢聊吧
剛才聽你講關於創意以及烹飪
如何讓你和你家人的關係更加緊密
相信讓大家很有啟發
目前《鋒味》這個節目已經踏入第五季
無論是網上或線下都看到了很多的牽引力
但是我想回到2014年
除了你剛才提到關於父母的事情
有沒有其他事情讓你由
歌手、演員轉變為一位大廚？
當中怎樣過渡？
我其實沒有要尋找一個轉變
我認為我可以同時做好所有事情
對不對？
我還在做音樂
我還在做電影
某種程度上我認為這很奇怪

Chinese: 
因为人们看着
这就像我从做木工转到了开药房一样
其实并不是那么不同
我想我做的所有事情，无论是美食
电影
还是音乐
以及相关的生意
我认为从整体来说其实是完美的协同作用
我不认为他们真的不相关
这就是我做事的方式
如果我不能从某个地方提取资源
去服务我所做的新事情
那么我真的会重新考虑是不是应该做下去
因为人到了一定的年纪后
想要有一个新的开始或许不太容易
但是首先我知道自己对美食的确很热衷
而且我也觉得它将是
继通信和科技之后的下一个大机会

Chinese: 
因為人們看著這就像
我從做木工轉到了開藥房一樣
其實並不是那麼不同
我想我做的所有事情，無論是美食
電影
還是音樂
以及相關的生意
我認為從整體來說其實是完美的協同作用
我不認為他們真的不相關
這就是我做事的方式
如果我不能從某個地方提取資源
去服務我所做的新事情
那麼我真的會重新考慮是不是應該做下去
因為人到了一定的年紀後
想要有一個新的開始或許不太容易
但是首先我知道自己對美食的確很熱衷
而且我也覺得它將是繼通訊
和科技之後的下一個大機會

English: 
like I'm moving from
woodworking to pharmacy.
It's not that far.
I think what I'm doing with
food, with movies, and also
music, and the
business together, I
think, as a whole it
has perfect synergy.
I don't think that
they're really unrelated.
And that's how I do things.
If I cannot pull
resources from somewhere,
somehow to contribute
into a new thing I do,
then I really would reconsider
to either do it or not.
Because to start fresh at
a later age-- later age--
is maybe at a disadvantage.
But first of all, I found
food to be a true passion.
And then I also saw that it
would be the next biggest thing
after communication and tech.
So I thought how I
could kind of rejuvenate

Chinese: 
所以我就在想
我可以为我整个娱乐事业注入新动力
并使其成为可持久的业务
你对于美食的兴趣是一直都有的吗？
一直都有
但我想更认真的去发展这个兴趣
当时我觉得中国内地
其实很缺乏一个好的美食或生活的节目
我们2014年开始
刚刚今年完成了第5季
我知道，我有在看
喔，谢谢你
讲到美食
有一个问题我相信你听过很多遍
其实很多人知道我会采访你之后
也问了我同样的问题
你从来没在一个厨房里工作过
你真的会煮饭吗？
我听过很多你的故事
所以我知道你付出了很多努力

English: 
the whole entertainment
business of mine
and make it a long
lasting one, I guess.
JAMES TAO: Was this
interest in food something
that was always there?
NICHOLAS TSE: It
was always there.
But I thought to make
it a bit more serious.
And at the time I think
mainland China was actually--
it was really lacking a
decent food or lifestyle show.
JAMES TAO: OK.
NICHOLAS TSE: Yeah.
So we started 2014.
Right?
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
NICHOLAS TSE: And
we just finished
the fifth season this year.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
I've been watching.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
JAMES TAO: So on the food topic,
I'm sure you hear this a lot.
And even people who know
me doing this have asked
this as well is that, you've
never worked in the kitchen.
Can you really cook?
Like, obviously I heard stories.
And I know that you put a lot
of hard work and dedication
and courage into being who
you are today and achieving

Chinese: 
所以我就在想我可以為
我整個娛樂事業注入新動力
成為可持續的業務
你一直都對美食有興趣嗎？
一直都有
但我想更認真地去發展這個興趣
當時我覺得內地
其實很缺乏一個好的美食或生活的節目
我們2014年開始
剛剛今年完成了第5季
我知道，我有在看
哦，謝謝你
講到美食
有一個問題我相信你聽過很多次
其實很多人知道我會採訪你之後
也問了我同樣的問題
你從來沒在一個廚房裏工作過
你真的會煮飯嗎？
我聽過很多關於你的故事
所以我知道你付出了很多努力

Chinese: 
时间和勇气才能做到你今时今日的成就
但并不是每个人都知道
当你听到这种批评的时候
你是怎么想的？还有你会怎么处理？
从逻辑上来说是可以接受的
如果一个人做某些的时间不长
我们就会认为他们不可能擅长，对吧？
这就是逻辑
我懂，或者这样解释吧
譬如说我们人类用了几百年固定电话
为什么我们不继续用
那不是最好的吗？
不如把你们的iPhone全扔了
手机全扔了
让我们重新用回固定电话
因为我们已用了那么多年
又好像说我们人类开汽油车几百年了
那个伊隆·马斯克一定疯了
还去创办特斯拉干嘛？

Chinese: 
時間和勇氣才能做到你今時今日的成就
但並不是每個人都知道
當你聽到這種批評的時候
你是有甚麼想法？還有你會怎麼處理？
從邏輯上來說是可以接受的
如果一個人做某些的時間不長
我們就會認為他們不可能是擅長的
對吧？
這就是邏輯
我明白，或者這樣解釋吧
例如我們人類用了幾百年固定電話
為甚麼我們不繼續用
那不是最好的嗎？
不如把你們的iPhone全掉了
手機全掉了
讓我們重新用回固定電話
因為我們已用了那麼多年
又好像說我們人類開汽油車幾百年了
那個Elon Musk一定瘋了
還去創辦 Tesla 幹嘛？

English: 
what you've done.
But not everybody has seen that.
So what goes through
your mind when
you hear criticism like this?
And how do you deal with?
NICHOLAS TSE: It's
logically acceptable.
Because first of
all, we may think
that because someone has not
been doing something for really
long, they can't be good at it.
Right?
That's the logic.
It's OK.
It's OK.
But that's almost like saying--
let put it this way.
That's almost like saying
we as a human race,
we've been using the landline
telephone for centuries.
Why don't we stick with it?
That must be the best way.
So dump all your iPhones.
Dump all your mobiles right now.
Let's go back to the landline,
because we've been doing
that for the longest time.
Right?
That's like saying,
we as a human race,
we've been using the--
we've been driving gasoline
automobiles for centuries.
So has Elon Musk gone
crazy to start Tesla?

Chinese: 
为什么外面那么多电动车？
我们开了汽油车那么久
那一定是最好的啊
我觉得如果我们思维那么狭窄的话
那真的很可怕
因为我们处于一个新的时代
现在有很多不同的科技可以让我们
比以前学厨的人更快地获取信息
我听说很多学厨的
在刚开始的前一两年都一直在刨蔬菜
对不起，但我有我自己的方法
我自己有足够的积蓄
能让我在学厨的第一年可以做更多的事
其实我们常常听到一些日本厨师的故事
-什么要连续洗米洗七年才能开始做寿司
-对对对
但这是最好的方法吗？
这是唯一的方法吗？

English: 
Why are there so many
electronic cars out there now?
Because that must
be the best way,
because we've been doing
it for the longest time.
I think we are
that narrow-minded.
That really frightens me,
because we are in a new era.
There are perks
and different texts
now out there that allows us
to pick up on information much
more rapidly than it has been
in the traditional kitchen,
I would say.
Oh, I'm sorry.
But the way I've heard is
maybe the first apprentice cook
would be peeling vegetables
for maybe a year or two.
But I have my ways, or I
have saved up enough money
to be peeling something
much more in the first year.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
I mean, like we hear
all these stories
about like, chefs
training in Japan
and like they're washing
rice for like seven years
before they can make sushi.
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
So is that the
best and only way?

Chinese: 
為甚麼外面那麼多電動車？
我們開了汽油車那麼久
那一定是最好的啊
我覺得如果我們思維那麼狹窄的話
那真的很可怕
因為我們處於一個新的時代
現在有很多不同的科技可以讓我們
比以前學廚的人更快地獲取信息
我聽說很多學廚的
在剛開始的前一兩年都一直在刨蔬菜
對不起，但我有我自己的方法
我自己有足夠的積蓄
能讓我在學廚的第一年可以做更多的事
其實我們常常聽到一些日本廚師的故事
甚麼要連續洗米洗七年才能開始做壽司
對
但這是最好的方法嗎？
這是唯一的方法嗎？

English: 
I don't think we can be that
narrow-minded in thinking
like that.
Of course, there has
been a lot of hard work
and time and effort put into it.
But I don't have
to get into those.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
But how do you stay focused
on doing what you need to do?
Do you have like a system?
Do you have a way to do things?
Because obviously
it's a lot of work.
NICHOLAS TSE: It's
a lot of work.
JAMES TAO: There's a lot
of learning involved.
Like, how do you stay organized?
How do you stay focused?
NICHOLAS TSE: That's one thing
I learned in the kitchen is
time management.
Because when you're trying to
serve two dishes, it's easy.
For two, it's easy.
For four, it's OK.
For eight, yeah, it's not bad.
But when you try and do eight
dishes for a table of 10,
and they all have to be
hot when you serve like,
in Chinese food.
It's not that easy.
And when you do one
of my Michelin galas,
when you're serving for 700,
they still have to be hot.
And you've got eight
minutes of serving time

Chinese: 
我不觉得我们的思想应该这么狭隘
当然成功需要付出努力
时间及功夫的，这些大家都知道
你是如何在每件需要做的事情当中
保持专注？
你做事有一套系统吗？
因为你有很多工作
又需要不停地学习新事物
你是怎么做到井井有条的？
你是怎么做到专注的？
我在厨房里学到的最重要的一点
就是时间管理
当你要做两道菜的时候，这很简单
两个人的分量很简单
四个人也可以
八个人也不难
但是当你要为一桌10个人做8道菜
而且每盘菜上桌时必须是热的
特别是做中餐的时候
那就不容易了
当我要做一些米其林的庆祝晚宴
同时为700人做菜
每道菜只有8分钟的上桌时间

Chinese: 
我不覺得我們的思想應該這麼狹隘
當然成功需要付出努力
時間及功夫，這些大家都知道
你是如何在每件需要做的事情當中
保持專注？
你做事有一套系統嗎？
因為你有很多工作
又需要不停地學習新事物
你是怎麼做到井井有條的？
你是怎麼做到專注的？
我在廚房裡學到的最重要的一點
就是時間管理
當你要做兩道菜的時候，這很簡單
兩個人的分量很簡單
四個人也可以
八個人也不難
但是當你要為一桌10個人做8道菜
而且每盤菜上桌時必須是熱的
特別是做中餐的時候，那就不容易了
當我要做一些米芝蓮的慶祝晚宴
同時為700人做菜
每道菜只有8分鐘的上桌時間

English: 
for 700 fine dining.
It's very hard.
But then you learn.
Gradually, eventually you
learn how to pace ourselves.
And then your organization.
Like what I just
demonstrated on my phone.
I try to squeeze in all these
little seconds and milliseconds
in my life to gain
just that much more.
But I guess when there's
a will, there's a way.
I don't know your
time schedules.
But you figure that
out for yourself.
But there are these
little gaps in life
where you can just
squeeze in a bit more here
and there, knowledge.
And then eventually
that adds up.
That adds up.
Yeah.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
I think it's amazing how you're
able to balance so many things
and do everything so well.
NICHOLAS TSE: And I'm a very--
naturally I'm a very
[SPEAKING CHINESE] person.

Chinese: 
700人的分量上桌时都要是热的
这非常难
但你会逐渐地学习
慢慢你会学会如何控制节奏及有条不紊
我刚刚在手机上也有给大家看
我每天会尽量挤出一些时间去学习
哪怕是几秒都好
我相信有志者事竟成
我不知道你们怎么安排自己的时间
这点你自己首先要搞清楚
但我们日常生活当中
常常会有机会挤出一些时间
如果能利用这些时间来积累知识
最后就会汇聚成海
我觉得你能够同时平衡那么多东西
而且每件事都很出色，这实在很了不起
我觉得我天生是一个很八卦的人

Chinese: 
700人的分量上桌時都要是熱的
這非常難
但你會逐漸地學習
慢慢你會學會如何控制節奏及有條不紊
我剛剛在手機上也有給大家看
我每天會盡量擠出一些時間去學習
哪怕是幾秒都好
我相信有志者事竟成
我不知道你們怎麼安排自己的時間
這點你自己首先要搞清楚
但我們日常生活當中
常常會有機會擠出一些時間
如果能利用這些時間來積累知識
最後就會匯聚成海
我覺得你能夠同時平衡那麼多東西
而且每件事都很出色，這實在很厲害
我覺得我天生是一個充滿好奇心的人

Chinese: 
我对很多事都很好奇
我常常会为了想知道一些东西而去搜索
很好奇想知道为何、何处、何时、如何
当我一旦开始一件事的时候
在没做到一些成绩之前我不会停
这就是我的性格
对啊，其实我听过很多关于
你怎么钻研你想学的每一件事的故事
你是一个非常专注的人
这一点我觉得非常令人钦佩的
在这一点上，有时候我会非常麻烦的
我刚才也提到，你一人经常分饰多角
一边在学习厨艺
另一边，还有你的音乐及演艺事业
我们先回到过去，从音乐说起吧
你上一次推出粤语专辑
已经是2005年了
真的？

Chinese: 
我對很多事都很好奇
我常常會為了想知道一些東西而去搜索
很好奇想知道為何、何處
何時、如何
當我一旦開始一件事的時候
在沒做到一些成績之前我不會停
這就是我的性格
對啊，其實我聽過很多關於
你怎麼鑽研你想學的每一件事的故事
你是一個非常專注的人
這一點我覺得非常令人佩服的
在這一點上，有時候我會令人很頭痛的
我剛才也提到，你一人經常分飾多角
一邊在學習廚藝
另一邊，還有你的音樂及演藝事業
我們先回到過去，從音樂說起吧
你上一次推出粵語專輯
已經是2005年了
真的？

English: 
I'm a very--
I'm very curious
about everything.
You know?
I mean, I look up stuff just to
know, just to ask why, where,
when, how.
And when I start
something, I don't
like to stop until I
actually get somewhere.
That's just a personality.
JAMES TAO: Yeah, I've heard
many stories as well about--
NICHOLAS TSE: Really?
JAMES TAO: --deep you go and
how kind of focused you are,
and how deep down you drill
into everything that you
try to learn.
And I think that's something
that's very admirable.
NICHOLAS TSE: Oh.
I can be a pain in the
ass in that aspect.
Yeah.
JAMES TAO: But like I said,
you're a man of many hats.
You're developing a
chef career on the side.
You have music.
You have acting.
All that together.
Kind of bringing the
conversation back
to where it started with music,
your last Cantonese album
was in 2005.
NICHOLAS TSE: Really?

Chinese: 
对
然后你2009年推出的国语专辑
距今也已有10年了
我知道其实你没停过做音乐
你帮电影做过歌
也帮你的节目做过主题曲
在过去的12个月当中
我留意到你在音乐方面投入的多了些
从2018年的叱咤颁奖典礼上的
表演数起
你今年推出了三首单曲
在中国好声音上担任导师
最近还在香港电台的颁奖礼上也表演了
这些活动是不是想要预告什么？
2019年的谢霆锋
是不是会带给我们更多的音乐？
我真的没计划
我觉得我是顺其自然
在人生不同的阶段我们有不同的灵感

Chinese: 
對
然後你2009年推出的國語專輯
距今也已有10年了
我知道其實你沒停過做音樂
你幫電影做過歌
也幫你的節目做過主題曲
在過去的12個月當中
我留意到你在音樂方面投入多了
從2018年的叱吒頒獎典禮上的
表演計起
你今年推出了三首單曲
在中國好聲音上擔任導師
最近還在香港電台的頒獎禮上也表演了
這些活動是不是想要預告甚麼？
2019年的謝霆鋒
是不是會帶給我們更多的音樂？
我真的沒計劃
我覺得我是順其自然
在人生不同的階段我們有不同的靈感

English: 
JAMES TAO: One step closer.
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
JAMES TAO: And then
your last Mandarin album
was 10 years ago.
It was 2009.
NICHOLAS TSE: Oh.
JAMES TAO: So I know you
haven't stopped doing music.
So you've done movie songs,
you did songs for your show.
And over the past 12
months, personally, I've
seen you kind of do
a little bit more.
Started with 2018 [INAUDIBLE]
in that performance.
You launched three
singles this year.
You were a guest
judge on "The Voice."
And now just recently you
had the RTHK performance.
So is this
foreshadowing something?
Are we going to see more
music coming from you in 2019?
NICHOLAS TSE: I didn't
really plan this.
I think I'm just going
with the flow, really.
Sometimes.
But I think at different times
with different inspirations,

Chinese: 
有時候我覺得不同的行業有不同的優勢
就好像有時候投資股市
會比投資房地產更好
有時候音樂會比電影做得更好
這就是為甚麼我會有辦法去做我想的事情
因為從來不會有一個行業是永遠最好的
這是真的
如果你看整個市場的話
永遠會有一些行業要好一些
如果選對了行業
又同時抓住了它興起的那波浪潮
那你就會一帆風順了
就好像我們剛剛開始《鋒味》這個節目時
我們現在覺得是全中國最大的美食節目
我們從2014年開始
到了第三季的時候
我們已經每年有超過3億人民幣的收益
我們現在已經第五季了
所以你如果能夠看好趨勢並乘浪而行
一切就會很不一樣

English: 
or sometimes I feel that
there are different advantages
for different fields.
You know how sometimes
the stock market,
it's doing better
than the real estate.
Sometimes music is
doing better than film.
And that's how I can kind of
weasel around and do my thing,
because there's never one
trend that's always at the top.
That's actually true.
If you really look
at the market,
something is always
doing a bit better.
And if the trend is like that,
and you kind of catch the wave,
man, you're on top.
Because when we started
the "Chef Nic" show,
we are definitely the
biggest food show in China.
When we started in 2014,
by the third season
we were doing over
300 million RMB.
And now we're in
the fifth season.
But if you catch the wave,
that's a different thing.
That's a different thing.

Chinese: 
有时候我觉得不同的行业有不同的优势
就好比有时候投资股市会
比投资房地产更好
有时候音乐会比电影做得更好
这就是为什么
我可以有办法去做我想的事情
因为从来不会有一个行业是永远最好的
这是真的
如果你看整个市场的话
永远会有一些行业要好一些
如果选对了行业
又同时抓住了它兴起的那波浪潮
那你就会一帆风顺了
就好像我们刚刚开始《锋味》这个节目时
我们现在觉得是全中国最大的美食节目
我们从2014年开始
到了第三季的时候
我们已经每年有超过3亿人民币的收益
我们现在已经第五季了
所以你如果能够看好趋势并乘浪而行
一切就会很不一样

English: 
So I think we're doing
very stable in "Chef Nic."
So I think now I have
the time to kind of--
JAMES TAO: Do more music.
NICHOLAS TSE: --do more music.
JAMES TAO: So does that
mean we'll see the album--
an album this year?
NICHOLAS TSE: I don't know if
I'm working on a full album.
But I don't really think if
that really matters anymore
in the new market.
Right?
But yeah.
JAMES TAO: But what does matter?
NICHOLAS TSE: I'm hoping for--
I'm actually working
on a concert.
But there's--
JAMES TAO: That's what
we were going to ask.
NICHOLAS TSE: In
Hong Kong everybody
is starting a concert as if
they have nothing else to do.
[LAUGHTER]
JAMES TAO: And still
hard to buy tickets.
So.
NICHOLAS TSE: We need
a bigger stadium.
That's what we need.
Yeah.
JAMES TAO: We need a bigger--
NICHOLAS TSE: A
new, bigger stadium.
JAMES TAO: --platform.
We need more creativity.
NICHOLAS TSE: Maybe that's
why I can book my stadium
schedule, because I've been
dissing it the whole time.
JAMES TAO: Well, time to
get creative and think
about something different.

Chinese: 
我觉得我们的《锋味》节目现在非常稳定
所以我觉得我可以有多一点时间去做音乐
那是不是意味着
我们今年会看到你出唱片？
我不确定我会不会推出一张大碟
但同时我也不觉得在现在的市场这很重要
但我正在筹备一个演唱会
我刚好要问这个！
但在香港大家都好像没别的事可做似的
每个人都去开演唱会
而且都买不到票
我们需要一个更大的场地
这才是我们需要的
一个新的场馆
哦，可能这就是
为什么我订不到场馆开演唱会
因为我一直都在骂他们
那我们就应该
有创意的想一个更新颖的办法

Chinese: 
我覺得我們的《鋒味》節目現在非常穩定
所以我覺得我可以有多一點時間去做音樂
那是不是意味著
我們今年會看到你出唱片？
我不確定我會不會推出一張大碟
但同時我也不覺得
在現在的市場這是很重要
但我正在籌備一個演唱會
我剛好要問這個！
但在香港大家都好像沒別的事可做似的
每個人都去開演唱會
而且都買不到票
我們需要一個更大的場館
這才是我們需要的
一個新的場館
哦，可能這就是為甚麼
我訂不到場館開演唱會
因為我一直都在罵他們
那我們就應該有創意的
想一個更新穎的辦法

Chinese: 
回到中國好聲音的話題
很多人有說過這一季比起以往的都好看
我也這樣覺得
個人認為你為節目注入了一種不同的能量
看你那麼認真地對待每一集
我覺得很有趣
我聽到一個你學打鼓表演的故事
希望你能分享一下
我從Derek那裡聽到
你是怎麼努力去準備
而且無時無刻地在訓練
其實對於一個表演，充分的練習是必須的
但如果你提起中國好聲音的話
我想分享的是
其實我不知道有多少人看過這個節目
但你知道，我在首兩集瘋狂地按按鈕

Chinese: 
讲回中国好声音的话题
很多人有说过这一季比起以往的都好看
我也这样觉得
个人认为你为节目注入了一种不同的能量
看你那么认真地对待每一集
我觉得很有趣
我听到一个你学打鼓表演的故事
希望你能分享一下
我从Derek那里听到
你是怎么努力去准备
而且无时无刻不在训练
其实对于一个表演，充分的练习是必须的
但如果你提起中国好声音的话
我想分享的是
其实我不知道有多少人看过这个节目
但你知道，我在首两集疯狂地按按钮

English: 
Right?
Back on the topic of
[SPEAKING CHINESE],,
"The Voice."
A lot of people have said that
this season was a lot better
than previous seasons.
I think so.
Personally, I think you
being on it injected
kind of a different dynamic.
It was-- it was interesting to
see how seriously you took it.
Again, stories.
I heard a story
that maybe I want
you to share with everybody
about the drumming performance.
So I actually heard from Derek
how hard you prepared for it
and how you kept on--
NICHOLAS TSE: Well, preparation
for the performance is a given.
But actually, when you talk
about "The Voice," what I would
actually want to share is--
I don't know how many
people has watched the show.
But you know how I
got totally bashed

Chinese: 
因為這個我受到了徹底抨擊
因為其實這一季他們改了一些遊戲規則
首先有150個參賽者
坐在後台的一間房間裡看直播
包括演唱本身
以及導師的一些分析以及為甚麼要選他們
這是第一點
第二點是每一個導師都能選6個人組團
如果選了7個人
那這個人就要跟其他人對決
所以這樣的話，我嘗試做了幾件事
在第一季如果大家有看的話

English: 
when I started hammering
onto the button at first
in the first two episodes,
because there are actually
these two new perks.
They changed the way the
game played this year.
That to start off with,
all the contestants--
there are about 150
contestants put into one room.
And they are
watching a live feed
of whatever is happening
on stage-- the performance,
along with the judges'
comments and how
they would choose their team.
That's one thing.
The second thing is, each judge
would have a six-person quota
to choose into
assembling their team.
And if you do choose
a seventh person,
that person would have to
battle out any of their chosen--
the person from
the original team.
So thinking like that,
there are a few things
I tried doing is the
first episode, if people
who have seen the show would see
me just hearing the first two

Chinese: 
因为这个我受到了彻底抨击
因为其实这一季他们改了一些游戏规则
首先有150个参赛者
坐在后台的一间房间里看直播
包括演唱本身
以及导师的一些分析以及为什么要选他们
这是第一点
第二点是每一个导师都能选6个人组团
如果选了7个人
那这个人就要跟其他人PK
所以这样的话，我尝试做了几件事
在第一季大家如果有看的话

English: 
sentences, and then I would
be smashing onto the button.
And then the
reporters, the viewers,
who would say, he doesn't
know Jack about music!
Go back to cooking!
How could you choose
someone from just listening
for the first two words?
What I found out was, I am
very aware that for the past 10
years, like you said--
my last album was
maybe 10 years ago--
I'm very aware that a
lot of the younger kids,
they don't see me as a singer.
They don't see me as a musician.
If I were to fight for
these contestants over--
with the other judges, I would
have a very big disadvantage.
The only way I could plant some
ideas into the 150 contestants
that are watching
the live feed is
by hammering onto that button
and slowly turning around,
because therefore,
I have the floor.
I have the power of speech.
Because they didn't
choose the person.
I did.

Chinese: 
可能看到我一聽到第一句歌
我就按那個按鈕
然後記者們和觀眾們就開始說了
“他對音樂甚麼都不懂！
讓他回去煮飯吧！”
你怎麼可能一聽到頭兩句就選一個人呢？
我在過去10年沒有發行過唱片
我很清楚大部分年輕人
都不會覺得我是一個歌手或音樂人
假如我要和其他導師
一起爭奪這些參賽者的話
我一定會處於一個很大的劣勢
我唯一可以讓後台那150個
看直播的參賽者聽我說的話
就是瘋狂地按那個按鈕
因為只要我一轉身
我就可以讓全部人聽我說話
因為我選了那個人，我就擁有了發言權

Chinese: 
可能看到我一听到第一句歌
我就按那个按钮
然后记者们和观众们就开始说了
“他对音乐什么都不懂！
让他回去煮饭吧！”
你怎么可能一听到头两句就选一个人呢？
我在过去10年没有发行过唱片
我很清楚大部分年轻人
都不会觉得我是一个歌手或音乐人
假如我要和其他导师
一起争夺这些参赛者的话
我一定会处于一个很大的劣势
我唯一可以让后台
那150个看直播的参赛者听我说的话
就是疯狂地按那个按钮
因为只要我一转身
我就可以让全部人听我说话
因为我挑选了那个人
我就拥有了发言权

English: 
So actually I'm trying
to voice out and tell
not the person on the stage,
but the 150 in the room,
what I have done or
what my views on music
is so that they would feel more
comfortable joining my team.
But then, man, I got
totally bashed by the media,
by everybody else.
Yeah, stop this guy, or
he's crazy, or whatever.
And that's one thing I
found that was really
helping me out strategically.
The second thing is people
are also bashing me for--
I would choose a
lot of contestants
because I was solely
pressing onto the button.
But what I was also
doing is, I found out
if you had to choose
a seventh member,
and if your whole team was
equally matched, six of them
were equally as good, it's
very hard for a newcomer
to choose who they
would like to battle.

Chinese: 
其實我想做的
不僅是讓台上的那個人聽我說話
我更想讓後台的150個人
聽我曾經做了甚麼
以及我對音樂的看法
這樣他們才會更有信心加入我的團隊
但是我的行為
完全遭到媒體以及觀眾的抨擊
“這個人瘋了！快讓他醒吧”
這是第一件我覺得對我有幫助的策略
第二件事是大家也抨擊選擇很多的隊員
因為我就是一直按那個按鈕
但其實我發現了當你的團隊滿了
但你要挑第七個隊員時
如果你的團隊實力相當
連那六個都一樣好
讓一個新來的挑想和誰對決
是一件非常難的事

Chinese: 
其实我想做的
不仅是让台上的那个人听我说话
我更想让后台的150个人
听我曾经做了什么
以及我对音乐的看法
这样他们才会更有信心加入我的团队
但是我的行为
完全遭到媒体以及观众的抨击
“这个人疯了！快让他醒醒吧”
这是第一件我觉得对我有帮助的策略
第二件事是
大家也抨击选择很多的队员
因为我就是一直按那个按钮
但其实我发现了当你的团队满了
但你要挑第七个队员时
如果你的团队实力相当
就那六个都一样好
让一个新来的
挑想和谁PK是一件非常难的事

English: 
But if you have two that are--
it's cruel to say
this-- but, if you
have two that is
obviously a bit weaker,
it's easier for the
newcomer to choose from.
So you could always keep
on upgrading your team,
if that makes sense to anybody.
But strategically, I think I've
done something new in the show.
Yeah.
JAMES TAO: So it seems like you
took a very strategic approach
on how you picked your
team and how you--
NICHOLAS TSE: Yes.
But at the end, I hope
all these elements
would bring a better show.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
Right.
So how long was the filming
of the entire process?
NICHOLAS TSE: The
shooting days was 29 days.
But the whole process
with all the rehearsal
and all the training
was maybe three months.
JAMES TAO: So over that span,
like being on "The Voice"
and this is a relatively
new experience for you.
NICHOLAS TSE: Yeah.
JAMES TAO: What do you think
was the biggest thing that you
learned or gained from that?

Chinese: 
但是如果你有兩個，我知道這樣講很殘忍
但是如果你有兩個隊員明顯的比較弱
那新來的挑戰者會更容易選擇
這樣你就能不斷地升級你的團隊
我不知道大家明不明白
但是從策略上
我給節目帶來了一些新元素
似乎你挑選團隊的時候
採取了一個非常有策略的方法
沒錯，但我最終的目的還是希望
這些元素能夠創造出一個更好看的節目
你們一共花了多久時間拍整個節目啊？
如果只說節目拍攝的話
我們用了29天
但整個過程，包括排練及練習
大概用了3個月
在中國好聲音做導師
對你來說算是一個新的經歷
你覺得在這3個月的過程中
你最大的收穫是甚麼？

Chinese: 
但是如果你有两个
我知道这样讲很残忍
但是如果你有两个队员明显的比较弱
那新来的挑战者会更容易选择
这样你就能不断的升级你的团队
我不知道大家明不明白
但是从策略上
我给节目带来了一些新元素
似乎你挑选团队的时候
采取了一个非常有策略的方法
没错，但我最终的目的还是希望这些元素
能够创造出一个更好看的节目
你们一共花了多久时间拍整个节目啊？
如果只说节目拍摄的话
我们用了29天
但整个过程，包括排练及练习
大概用了3个月
在中国好声音做导师
对你来说算是一个新的经历
你觉得在这3个月的过程中
你最大的收获是什么？

Chinese: 
对我来说
这是一个可以让我回到音乐的最好平台
综艺节目来说
这个节目在中国的影响力是最大的
明年还会去吗？
我不知道
但像这种类型的音乐节目
-你会想继续做吗？
-当然！当然！
我们今天一开始的时候有提到
你是我们香港办公室
Talks at Google的第一位嘉宾
所以我必须把话题带回来聊一下科技
我听说你自己看很多YouTube
所以我们从YouTube说起吧
不！不！
是真的！
你个人怎么看科技
以及我们和一些像YouTube的平台
或者社交媒体

English: 
NICHOLAS TSE: For me,
it was a great platform
to get back into
music, because it
has the most reach right now
in terms of variety shows
in China.
So.
JAMES TAO: Are you
going back next season?
NICHOLAS TSE: I don't know.
I don't know.
JAMES TAO: OK.
But some stuff like that, like
kind of music shows and stuff
are still something
you'd like to--
NICHOLAS TSE: Definitely.
JAMES TAO: --be
more involved in?
NICHOLAS TSE: Definitely.
JAMES TAO: OK.
As I talked about at the
beginning of the talk,
you're the first guest
we're having here at Talks
at Google in Hong Kong.
So I'd be remiss not to
bring the conversation back
to tech a little bit.
NICHOLAS TSE: All right.
JAMES TAO: I heard that you're
a very heavy YouTube user.
So let's start from there.
[LAUGHTER]
NICHOLAS TSE: No, no.
JAMES TAO: You told
me in the room.
NICHOLAS TSE: Sure.
JAMES TAO: So what's your
view on kind of technology
and how we interact with
platforms like YouTube
and other social media?

Chinese: 
對我來說這是一個
可以讓我回到音樂的最好平台
綜藝節目來說
這個節目在中國的影響力是最大的
明年還會去嗎？
我不知道
但像這種類型的音樂節目
-你會想繼續做嗎？
-當然！當然！
我們在今天一開始的時候有提到
你是我們香港辦公室
Talks at Google的第一位嘉賓
所以我必須把話題帶回來聊一下科技
我聽說你自己看很多YouTube
所以我們從YouTube說起吧
不！不！
是真的！
你個人怎麼看科技
以及我們和一些像YouTube的平台
或者社交媒體

English: 
And how do you think that
plays into today's world,
and even your own
life and career?
NICHOLAS TSE: Well,
definitely for me
it's a very important
part of my life now.
I think for any of us, really.
We've just got gotten into
the habit of learning a lot.
Even like, my kids,
they're always on YouTube.
Seriously.
I think the tech
nowadays, it has really
enhanced the speed of
our learning curve.
We are picking up the goods
and bads through the internet.
Like, even through food--
like how tech has really
changed food immensely
through the past 10 years now.
The delivery system
has allowed us
to choose fresh goods from
the internet, stuff like that.
JAMES TAO: You're not a very
heavy user on social media.
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
I'm not a social media guy.

Chinese: 
你觉得在今天的社会中或者
在你日常生活和工作中
又扮演什么样的角色呢
科技绝对是我生活中不可缺少的一部分
其实不仅仅是我
实在有太多东西我们习惯了上网去学习
就算我的孩子们都是
他们真的整天都在看YouTube
科技大大促进了我们学习的速度
网络世界又好又坏
就拿食物来说
科技在过去10年
大大地改变了整个饮食行业
现在的科技
让我们在网上就能选购新鲜的食材
你不是一个很常用社交媒体的人
对，我不是喜欢社交媒体的那种人

Chinese: 
你覺得在今天的社會中或者
在你日常生活和工作中
又扮演甚麼樣的角色呢
科技絕對是我生活中不可缺少的一部分
其實不單是我
實在有太多東西是我們習慣了上網去學習
就算我的孩子都是
他們真的整天都在看YouTube
科技大大促進了我們學習的速度
網絡世界有好有壞
就用食物來做例子
科技在過去10年大大地改變了
整個飲食行業
現在的科技讓我們在網上
就能選購新鮮的食材
你不是一個很常用社交媒體的人
對，我不是喜歡社交媒體的那種人

English: 
But if there's a
destination I'm looking for,
then I would
definitely go on it.
JAMES TAO: Do you feel
that social media nowadays
has kind of become something
that more or less kind
of consumes people and has
become more of an addiction
for some people--
NICHOLAS TSE: Well, definitely.
JAMES TAO: --takes away from
the benefits of technology?
NICHOLAS TSE: But
then I think it's
a balance between for
everything that we do.
If we go to extreme, it's
always kind of harmful.
So we just have
to balance it out.
JAMES TAO: Is that
why you're not on it?
Or you just don't like it?
NICHOLAS TSE: I'm just not
in the habit of doing the--
that maybe it's just not me.
Right?
JAMES TAO: But it's--
I think it's also a platform
for you to kind share
your views sure and
share what you've done
and something like that.
So maybe something to consider.
NICHOLAS TSE: Of course.
Of course.
JAMES TAO: I'm sure if you
opened up a YouTube channel

Chinese: 
但如果我想很特定的找一些东西
我绝对会上去
你会不会觉得今时今日的社交媒体成为了
一种会消耗或侵蚀我们人生的工具
甚至对一些人来说更会成瘾
这岂不是会拉低科技的优点？
当然，我觉得我们做所有事情
都需要有一个平衡点
如果我们对任何事太极端的话一定会有害
我们必须找到那个平衡点
这是不是就是为什么你不用？
还是你就是不喜欢？
我其实就是没习惯做这个
但这就是我吧
但这个平台可让你分享你的看法
-和你的成就，所以或许可以考虑一下
-是的是的，当然
我绝对相信
如果你开了一个YouTube的频道

Chinese: 
但如果我想很特定的找一些東西
我絕對會上去
你會不會覺得今時今日的社交媒體成為了
一種會消耗或侵蝕我們人生的工具
甚至對一些人來說更會成癮
這豈不是會拉低科技的優點？
當然，我覺得我們做所有事情
都需要有一個平衡點
如果我們對任何事太極端的話一定會有害
我們必須找到那個平衡點
這是不是就是為甚麼你不用？
還是你就是不喜歡？
我其實就是沒習慣做這個
但這就是我吧
但這個平台可讓你分享你的看法
-和你的成就，所以或許可以考慮一下
-是的是的，當然
我絕對相信
如果你開了一個YouTube的頻道

Chinese: 
在上面分享你的烹飪經驗
在場的每個人都會很樂意訂閱
但這就帶出另一點
你知道我們有一個語言障礙的問題
我現在有很多的短視頻
但全部都是講普通話的
如果放上YouTube
那就代表說我要重拍整個視頻
一遍用英語，再用廣東話拍一遍
這真的讓我很煩惱！
同一件事我要做三次
我做蒸魚的話要殺三條魚！
對啊，然後假如你只殺一條魚
觀眾又會留言說為甚麼
已經有刀痕但還要切下去
我想問你關於
你最近拍的英語電視節目《名廚爭鋒》
節目當中你和名廚
David Rocco較量廚藝

Chinese: 
在上面分享你的烹饪经验
在场的每个人都会很乐意订阅
但这就带出另一点
你知道我们有一个语言障碍的问题
我现在有很多的短视频
但全部都是讲普通话的
如果放上YouTube
那就代表说我要重拍整个视频
一遍用英语，再用广东话拍一遍
这真的让我很不爽！
同一件事我要做三次
我做蒸鱼的话要杀三条鱼！
对啊，然后假如你只杀一条鱼
观众又会留言说
为什么已经有刀痕还在切下去
我想问你关于
你最近拍的英语电视节目《名厨争锋》
节目当中你和名厨
David Rocco较量厨艺

English: 
and shared your cooking
tips, everyone here
would be love to subscribe.
NICHOLAS TSE: But then
that's another thing
right now that's really--
there's a bit of a
language barrier.
I mean, I have a lot of clips,
but they're in Mandarin.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
NICHOLAS TSE: So if I
do put it on YouTube,
then I would have to kind of
redo the exact same thing,
but one maybe in
English or in Cantonese.
That really pisses me off.
Right?
I have to do three
of the same thing.
I would have to kill three
fish to do a steam fish.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
And if you only kill
one fish, people
will be commenting
again and saying--
NICHOLAS TSE: Right?
JAMES TAO: --there's
already a cut there.
Yeah.
[LAUGHTER]
OK, I've been meaning
to ask you about a show
that you did called "Celebrity
Chef East Versus West."
So you faced off against
star chef David Rocco.
And it was a five
episodes mini-series.

English: 
And spoiler alert-- you won.
Why did you choose to
go film an English show?
What was that experience like?
NICHOLAS TSE: Well, back to
the part where a lot of people
has been doubting me
for the cooking part.
So all you could
do really is just
to go the extent to
prove yourselves.
I think that in--
I've been doing that
in every field, really.
That's why I put myself
through competitions.
Especially when you do a
foreign show like from Fox.
Then it's not a "Chef Nic" show.
That if I can't prove myself
through that kind of platform,
then the haters will be haters.
But at least I've
gone the extent.
I might even be
going back this year
to be judging or even competing.
I'm OK with competing.
But, yeah.
I think you just have
to find yourself to--
find ways to prove yourself.
I have done many crazy
stuff just to prove myself.

Chinese: 
經過5集的鬥爭後你最終勝出了
但為甚麼你會想去拍一個英文的節目
那個經歷又是怎樣的呢？
其實這要講回很多人質疑我的廚藝
其實有時候你能做的
只是盡你自己所能去證明你自己
我覺得我在每個行業都需要這樣去做
這就是為甚麼我要參加比賽的原因
特別是當你做一個外國電視台的節目時
這就不是我自己的《鋒味》
如果我不能透過這樣一個平台證明自己
那麼那些質疑我的人永遠都不會改觀
但至少我知道我盡力了
今年可能我會再回去做評審
或者再參加比賽
我完全可以接受參加比賽
但我覺得做人需要不斷的找新方法
去證明自己
我為了證明自己，曾經做了很多瘋狂的事

Chinese: 
经过5集的斗争后你最终胜出了
但为什么你会想去拍一个英文的节目
那个经历又是怎样的呢？
其实这要讲回很多人质疑我的厨艺
其实有时候你能做的
只是尽你自己所能去证明你自己
我觉得我在每个行业都需要这样去做
这就是为什么我要参加比赛的原因
特别是当你做一个外国电视台的节目时
这就不是我自己的《锋味》
如果我不能透过这样一个平台证明自己
那么那些质疑我的人永远都不会改观
但至少我知道我尽力了
今年可能我会再回去
做评审或者再参加比赛
我完全可以接受参加比赛
但我觉得做人需要不断的找新方法
去证明自己
我为了证明自己，曾经做了很多疯狂的事

Chinese: 
但有時你又真的有必要這樣做
我試過從大廈上跳下去
我為了拍電影也曾經
從香港的會議展覽中心上跳下去
-警察故事
-對
很多人會覺得因為我是兩個藝人的兒子
我做事就不認真
這就是為甚麼
我經常要去做這些困難的事情
帶傷去跳一棟又一棟的大廈
如果對你來說這還不算認真
那我真不知道可以做甚麼
可能這對某些人來說很無聊
但你們試試看啊
在場的觀眾朋友
可能不完全熟悉你是如何出道的
但作為那一代人
我的確見證了你經歷的一些艱辛
-真的？
-對啊，我們是同一代人！
對於一些不知道的人

English: 
But sometimes that's the
extent you would have to do.
I've jumped off buildings.
I've jumped off convention
center in Hong Kong
to do my movies.
JAMES TAO: "Police Story."
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
When people also thought
that I-- because I'm
the son of two
celebrities-- maybe
I don't take my job seriously.
And that's-- that's why I've
been putting myself through all
this hardship and this pain
and buildings after buildings,
because if that's not serious
enough for you, then what is?
It may be silly to some people.
But then you go try it.
Right?
JAMES TAO: I mean, I'm
sure in the room not
everybody is familiar with how
you started and everything.
But definitely as someone who
grew up in that generation,
I was able to witness
all the negative--
NICHOLAS TSE: Yeah, yeah.
JAMES TAO: All right.
Same generation.
But I was-- yeah.
NICHOLAS TSE: For
people who doesn't know,

Chinese: 
但有时你又真的有必要这样做
我试过从大楼上跳下去
我为了拍电影也曾经
从香港的会议展览中心上跳了下去
-警察故事
-对
很多人会觉得因为我是两个艺人的儿子
我做事就不认真
这就是为什么
我经常要去做这些困难的事情
带伤去跳一栋又一栋的大楼
如果对你来说这还不算认真
那我真不知道可以做什么
可能这对某些人来说很无聊
但你们试试看啊
在场的观众朋友
可能不完全熟悉你是如何出道的
但作为那一代人
我的确见证了你经历的一些艰辛
-真的？
-对啊，我们是同一代人！
对于一些不知道的人

Chinese: 
我職業生涯的前4年，99％是噓聲
哪裡都聽不到任何掌聲
從我踏上舞台的第一秒起
聽到的都是噓聲和粗言穢語
足足四年
而且不是因為你做了甚麼
-完全是因為你的背景以及你本人
-是的，是的
那4年每次走下台都很難受
我看到我的經理和我的團隊
他們握著拳頭在哭
我只能自己一個人走回
更衣室讓自己冷靜下來
-4年，日復一日
-但你沒放棄
因為當時候我們有很多宣傳要做

Chinese: 
我职业生涯的前4年，99％是嘘声
哪里都听不到任何掌声
从我踏上舞台的第一秒起
听到的都是嘘声和粗言秽语 足足四年
而且不是因为你做了什么
-完全是因为你的背景以及你的人
-是的，是的
那4年每次走下台都很难受
我看到我的经理和我的团队
他们握着拳头在哭
我只能自己一个人走回
更衣室让自己冷静下来
-4年，日复一日
-但你没放弃
因为当时候我们有很多宣传要做

English: 
the first four years of
my career was 99% booing.
I would not get any
applause anywhere.
The minute I stepped onstage it
was all boos and foul language
and profanities.
Four years.
JAMES TAO: And it wasn't
because of what you did.
It was because of your
background and who you were.
NICHOLAS TSE: Sure.
Sure.
And it was really, really
tough for four years.
Every time I walked
off stage I would
see my managers and my team.
They would be just--
they would be all holding
their fist and just crying.
And I would be the only one that
could walk back to the changing
room and cool myself down.
But I would have to endure that
for every day for four years.
JAMES TAO: And you kept going.
NICHOLAS TSE: Because back
then we had so much promotion

English: 
to do, all the performances.
Back then it was
work after work.
And because there
was no internet yet.
So everything was live.
Every day was live.
Every time before
I walked on stage,
I would almost get
paranoid about being booed.
Because it got to
an extent where
I could not hear one word
of the song I was singing.
It was getting that nasty.
Then somewhere in year
2000, it turned around.
JAMES TAO: What was
the turning point?
NICHOLAS TSE: I don't know, man.
JAMES TAO: You don't know.
NICHOLAS TSE: Maybe, maybe there
was some new kid to pick on.
Or maybe they just got
tired of all the hating.
JAMES TAO: Or maybe they saw--
NICHOLAS TSE: Or maybe there
was enough buildings jumped.
But what I mean is--
JAMES TAO: You didn't jump
the convention in 2000.
NICHOLAS TSE: No, I didn't.
I jumped it in a 2003
or somewhere like that
with Mr. Jackie Chan.
But yeah.

Chinese: 
很多表演，工作无间断
那个年代还没有互联网
所有每天都是现场表演
每次我走上舞台
我会不断质疑自己
因为那个嘘声已经大到
我根本听不到我自己在唱歌
实在太糟糕了
但突然间在2010年，一切都变了
那个转捩点是什么呢？
我真的不知道啊！
可能有一个新人去欺负吧
或许他们讨厌我讨厌到累了
或者我终于跳够了大厦
2000年的时候你还没跳会展啊
对，还没 我2003年跳的
当时是和成龙先生一起拍戏

Chinese: 
很多表演，工作無間斷
那個年代還沒有互聯網
所有每天都是現場表演
每次我走上舞台
我會不斷質疑自己
因為那個噓聲已經大到
我根本聽不到我自己在唱歌
實在太糟糕了
但突然間在2010年，一切都變了
那個轉捩點是甚麼呢？
我真的不知道啊！
可能有一個新人去欺負吧
或許他們討厭我討厭到累了
或者我終於跳夠了大廈
2000年的時候你還沒跳會展啊
對，還未，我2003年跳的
當時是和成龍先生一起拍戲

English: 
When there is that
need, you just
have to find your way to excel.
Maybe there are some crazy
things that we've got to do.
JAMES TAO: Thank you for that.
Any live questions?
AUDIENCE: So during
the first few years
when things were really tough,
did you ever doubt yourself
and think that you just
weren't good enough?
And if you did,
what kept you going?
NICHOLAS TSE: I did.
But maybe for a very short time.
I never doubted myself
in terms of music.
I never doubted myself in
terms of all the hard work
I was putting in.
I believe in--
I think I'm a logical person.
And I think anybody
can accomplish anything
if you work hard enough.
Really, I don't think
there was a time where
I think I could have given up.
I would just-- I'm the
person that does not give up.

Chinese: 
當有需要的時候
你必須找到自己勝出的方式
可能我們需要做一些瘋狂的事
謝謝你，有沒有現場問題？
在你剛才提到的4年當中
你有沒有質疑自己的能力
覺得你自己不夠好？
是甚麼讓你繼續堅持的？
我有，但時間很短
音樂方面我從未質疑過我自己
我也從來沒質疑我自己不夠努力
我知道我是一個有邏輯的人
我也相信任何人只要努力工作的話
甚麼都能做到
老實說我真的不覺得
我有任何可以放棄的時候
我是一個不輕易放棄的人

Chinese: 
当有需要的时候
你必须找到自己胜出的方式
可能我们需要做一些疯狂的事
谢谢你，有没有现场问题？
在你刚才提到的4年当中
你有没有质疑自己的能力
觉得你自己不够好？
是什么让你继续坚持的？
我有，但时间很短
音乐方面我从未质疑过我自己
我也从来没质疑我自己不够努力
我知道我是一个有逻辑的人
我也相信任何人
只要努力工作的话，什么都能做到
老实说我真的不觉得
我有任何可以放弃的时候
我是一个不轻易放弃的人

English: 
Naturally, I just have
that kind of personality.
And the second thing
is, I can't give up,
because I had to make a living.
A lot of people would
imagine that because I
came from a family of two
actors and actresses--
an actress-- that I don't
take my job seriously.
But I've been self-sustained
ever since my debut.
At the age of 20 I'd been
paying my sister's education.
So that's behind
the scenes stories.
But I could not afford to
give up my job back then.
So I took everything more
seriously than anybody
would have ever thought.
JAMES TAO: I have
a question online.

Chinese: 
這就是我的性格
另外一點是，我真的不能放棄
我必須想辦法賺錢
很多人會覺得因為我的家裡有兩個演員
所以我不會認真工作
但是我從出道開始就靠自己了
從20歲開始
我就全力承擔了我妹妹所有的教育開支
這些就是為甚麼
當時我不能放棄我的工作
所以我做甚麼事情都比任何人想像的認真
我有一個網上的問題

Chinese: 
这就是我的性格
另外一点是
我真的不能放弃
我必须想办法赚钱
很多人会觉得因为我的家里有两个演员
所以我不会认真工作
但是我从出道开始就靠自己了
从20岁开始
我就全力承担了我妹妹所有的教育开支
这些就是为什么
当时我不能放弃我的工作
所以我做什么事情都比任何人想象的认真
我有一个网上的问题

English: 
Do you think though you've been
in, like I said, over 50 films.
NICHOLAS TSE: I
didn't know that.
JAMES TAO: Yeah.
I looked that up.
What's your outlook on the
genre of [SPEAKING CHINESE]??
Do you think there's a future?
What do you think the
future looks like?
NICHOLAS TSE: Back to
the creativity thing.
I think we are--
Hong Kong right now is-- we
are really lacking this part.
I think we have been
geniuses in the stock market.
We are excellent in
the real estate market.
But maybe that's
the last generation,
the past generations.
To get by in this
generation we've
got to be really creative
in our own fields.
Like in movies.
If you're talking about
the movie industry.
I think we've all had our
fair shares of the Marvel DC
franchises where we've all seen
our Supermans, our Batmans,
our Ironmans, our Hulks, our
Flashes, our Wonder Womans,
our--
I can go on and on.

Chinese: 
至今，你已經參演了50部電影了
我還真的不知道！
我上網查過了！
你對港產片的前景有甚麼看法？
你覺得它有前途嗎？
港產片將來在你心目中是怎樣的？
回到創意這個主題
我覺得今天的香港很缺乏創意
我認為我們在股票市場是天才
我們在房地產市場也是很成功的
但可能這是上幾代的事了
這一代要成功，我們必須要
在我們每個人的行業中展示創意
例如說電影
如果拿電影業來說
我覺得我們都看過不少
Marvel或DC的電影吧？
我們都看過《超人》、《蝙蝠俠》
《鐵甲奇俠》、
《變形俠醫》、《閃電俠》
《神奇女俠》，我可以一直數下去

Chinese: 
至今，你已经参演了50部电影了
我还真的不知道！
我上网查过了！
你对港产片的前景有什么看法？
你觉得有前途吗？
港产片的将来在你心目中是怎样的？
回到创意这个主题
我觉得今天的香港很缺乏创意
我认为我们在股票市场是天才
我们在房地产市场也是很成功的
但可能这是上几代的事了
这一代要成功，我们必须要
在我们每个人的行业中展示创意
譬如说电影
如果拿电影业来说吧
我觉得我们都看过不少
Marvel或DC的电影吧？
我们都看过《超人》、《蝙蝠侠》
《钢铁侠》、《变形侠医》、《闪电侠》
《神奇女侠》，我可以一直数下去

Chinese: 
我們都看過！
問題是
我們不是有5000年的歷史和文化嗎？
為甚麼我們還在拍孫悟空？
大哥啊
還在拍孫悟空啊？
所以我勸喻在場的朋友們
如果你對我們中國自己的英雄故事有憧憬
請把他寫下來，一兩段就可以
然後寄給我
或任何一個你覺得能做點甚麼的人
因為這是我們必須做的
要不然，我們將會非常非常落後
對，將你們的電影創意寄給我
然後我會給霆鋒
下一個問題給現場觀眾吧
我的問題是

Chinese: 
我们都看过！
问题是
我们不是有5000年的历史和文化吗？
为什么我们还在拍孙悟空？
大哥啊
还拍孙悟空啊！
所以我劝喻在场的朋友们
如果你对我们中国自己的英雄故事有憧憬
请把他写下来，一两段就可以
然后寄给我
或任何一个你觉得能做点什么的人
因为这是我们必须做的
要不然，我们将会非常非常落后
对，将你们的电影创意寄给我
然后我会给霆锋
下一个问题给现场观众吧
我的问题是

English: 
And we have all seen them.
The thing is, don't
we have 5,000 years
of history and culture?
But yet we are still
shooting the monkey king.
Right?
[SPEAKING CHINESE]
Right?
So I urge any of
you guys out there,
if you guys ever fantasize
about our own superheroes,
please jot down something.
Write a paragraph or two.
Send them to me or to
whoever that you think
can make something happen.
Because we have to.
If we don't, we're going to be
really, really behind really,
really far.
JAMES TAO: Send in
your movie idea to me.
I'll pass them along.
Yeah.
The next live question.
AUDIENCE: The
question I want to ask

English: 
is, can you share with us
one of the failure story,
or the moment you doubt
yourself-- is a good decision
to kick off this
"Chef Nic" show?
And then if that is
yes, how you overcome?
How you self-motivate
yourself and then
bring back your passion.
Thank you.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
Failures.
Wow.
Many failures, really.
But I think in
business I would say
one of the more obvious
ones were I invested
in a company that
did a post-production
at the age of 22, 23.
That was 2003.
I started a post company--
post-production company.
And we would do
computer graphics.
We would do color grading.
We would do editing.
Dubbing for a lot of commercials
and films and stuff like that.
Right?
So when you're in that kind
of a hardware tech company,
you buy a lot of stuff.
You buy a lot of--

Chinese: 
你能和我们分享一下你的挫折故事吗
或者一些当你质疑自己的时候
或怀疑自己做的决定的时候
在这些时候，你是怎么度过的
你是怎么重燃你的热情
并重新鼓励自己的？
谢谢
谢谢
挫折吗？
我经历过很多挫折
生意上来说
我觉得我其中一个最大的挫折是
我在20到23岁的时候
投资开了一家后期制作公司
当时是2003年
我创办了一家负责后期制作的公司
我们的当时为很多的广告及电影
去做电脑图像、色彩分级、
剪接、配音、等等
在那种硬件科技公司里面
你需要买很多的器材

Chinese: 
你能和我們分享一下你的挫折故事嗎
或者一些當你質疑自己的時候
或懷疑自己做的決定的時候
在這些時候，你是怎麼渡過的
你是怎麼重燃你的熱情
並重新鼓勵自己的？
謝謝
謝謝
挫折嗎？
我經歷過很多挫折
生意上來說
我覺得我其中一個最大的挫折是
我在20到23歲的時候
投資開了一家後期製作公司
當時是2003年
我創辦了一家負責後期製作的公司
我們的當時為很多的廣告及電影
去做電腦圖像、色彩分級、
剪接、配音、等等
在那種硬件科技公司裡面
你需要買很多的器材

Chinese: 
需要买影片调光机
剪接机、麦克风、这个那个
可是当时我们正处于胶卷年代末期
一夜之间所有东西都变了
没人再用录像带了
大家从胶卷换到数码了
但是我所有的硬件
我当时花了很多钱去买
突然间都要扔了
这就回到我刚才说的
如果你抓不到潮流，那一切就都不同了
我当时没抓到
所以我陪了很多钱
我当时需要把房子抵押给银行
这都是我的决定造成的
一切突然就变了
当时真的很艰难

English: 
we call [INAUDIBLE],, editors,
and mics, and this and that.
But back then we were at
the end of the analog trend.
And all of a sudden
things changed.
They don't use tapes anymore.
They went from
analog to digital.
But all my hardware,
they were a lot of money.
So all those all of a
sudden went into the can.
And that's-- to the well
where I was just saying,
if you can catch the trend,
that's a different story.
I didn't back then.
And I lost I lost a
lot of money back then.
I had to mortgage my
house and all that.
But that was on me.
You know, everything
just changed.
But do I-- at that
time it was hard.

Chinese: 
需要買影片調光機
剪接機、麥克風、這個那個
可是當時我們正處於膠卷年代末期
一夜之間所有東西都變了
沒人再用錄影帶了
大家從膠卷換到數碼了
但是我所有的硬件
我當時花了很多錢去買
突然間都要掉了
這就回到我剛才說的
如果你抓不到潮流，那一切就會不同了
我當時沒抓到
所以我賠了很多錢
我當時需要把房子抵押給銀行
這都是我的決定所造成的
一切突然都變了
當時真的很艱難

Chinese: 
但我对我建立的网络有信心
对我们所有的工作有信心
到最后一切都没事
但当中有几年我真的真的
过的很幸苦
但你一定要坚持
我觉得我做很多事
不一定立刻看到成效
其实大部分都不会立即见成效
《锋味》也不是一来就很有成效
是循序渐进的
很多人在我的厨艺旅程当中
都会质疑我
但在过去的一两个月当中
我相信很多人都有吃过
我的锋味麦当劳汉堡
真的很好吃啊！
谢谢，谢谢
我觉得以那个价格来说
我们真的非常成功
其实今天这个活动结束后
我回去他们的中央厨房
去研究2019年的汉堡
在香港短短推出了五个星期内

English: 
But I still believed in the
network that I had built,
all the connections, and
the work we were doing.
And then at the end we were OK.
But there were a few years
that was really, really tough.
But as long as-- you
have to stick with it.
I mean, a lot of stuff I do,
it doesn't reflect right away.
Most of the stuff doesn't
reflect right away.
The "Chef Nic" show
didn't reflect right away.
But eventually, eventually.
Like how everybody would
doubt me through my--
in my culinary journey.
But then last month,
or two months just now,
I think maybe a lot of people
had also had the "Chef Nic"
McDonald burger.
JAMES TAO: It was really good.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
Thank you.
At that price I think
we did a great job.
And you know, Ashley,
right after this meeting
I'm going into inventing--
into the Central Kitchen
to invent the 2019 one again.
And we sold within five weeks--
just only in Hong Kong--

Chinese: 
但我對我建立的網絡有信心
對我們所有的工作有信心
到最後一切都沒事
但當中有幾年我真的真的
過的很幸苦
但你一定要堅持
我覺得我做很多事
不一定立刻看到成效
其實大部分都不會立即見到成效
《鋒味》也不是一來就很有成效
是循序漸進的
很多人在我的廚藝旅程當中
都會質疑我
但在過去的一兩個月當中
我相信很多人都有吃過
我的鋒味麥當勞漢堡
真的很好吃啊！
謝謝 謝謝
我覺得以那個價格來說
我們真的非常成功
其實今天這個活動結束後
我回去他們的中央廚房
去研究2019年的漢堡
在香港短短推出了五個星期內

Chinese: 
我們就售出超過200萬個漢堡
別忘記
我們香港才600萬左右人口啊
我自己吃了5個
謝謝！謝謝！
真的，我用了5年時間去證明自己
所以有時候你真的不能輕易放棄
網上還有一個關於麥當勞這個合作的問題
整個過程當中
你究竟吃了幾個漢堡包？
哇，我吃了很多漢堡
我們也試了很多薯條
很多雪榚
很多飲品
我們試食了很多很瘋狂的食物
當你要做一道新的菜式的時候
你的創作過程是怎樣的
特別當你做一些別人從未做過的
好像那個豬扒包
那個超好吃的！

Chinese: 
我们就售出超过200万个汉堡
别忘了哦
我们香港才600万左右人口啊
我自己吃了5个
谢谢！谢谢！
真的，我用了5年时间去证明自己
所以有时候你真的不能轻易放弃
网上还有一个关于麦当劳这个合作的问题
整个过程当中
你究竟吃了几个汉堡包？
哇，我吃了很多汉堡
我们也试了很多薯条
很多冰淇淋
很多饮料
我们试吃了很多很疯狂的食物
当你要做一道新的菜式的时候
你的创作过程是怎样的
特别当你做一些别人从未做过的
想那个猪扒包
那个超好吃的！

English: 
we sold over 2 million burgers.
And there is only,
let me remind you,
only 6 point somewhat million
population in Hong Kong.
JAMES TAO: I ate like, five.
So.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
I thank you.
But then, yes.
It took five years to
kind of prove yourself.
Just you really have
to stick with it.
JAMES TAO: On the-- just
a quick question also
online on the McDonald's
collaboration.
Throughout the whole
process, how many burgers
did you have to eat?
NICHOLAS TSE: Man, I ate--
I ate a lot of burgers.
And there are--
I ate a lot of burgers.
We also tested a lot of the
fries, a lot of the ice cream,
a lot of drinks.
And yeah.
There were a lot of other
crazy stuff that we tested.
JAMES TAO: What's that
creative process working
to create a new menu item?
Or to do something that's
never been done before?
Like the pork chop.
NICHOLAS TSE: Right.
That one's so good.
Yes!
JAMES TAO: So good.

English: 
NICHOLAS TSE: That's
part of being creative.
I think that's
something that I really
enjoy is creating menus or
writing songs and making
something my own.
And when they gave me the
homework to start up something
that has [SPEAKING CHINESE],,
Hong Kong [SPEAKING CHINESE]..
It actually-- I didn't know how
to translate that, that taste--
JAMES TAO: Taste of Hong Kong.
Right.
NICHOLAS TSE: I
was thinking how I
could relate the
taste of my childhood
to a McDonald's burger.
And there are other
ideas that I'm still
working on right now, maybe
later in the kitchen today.
Stuff like you know how
Hong Kong people love
their [SPEAKING CHINESE]?
Right?
I would always think
that it would probably
work with a [SPEAKING CHINESE].
Right?
Because that's almost
the same thing.

Chinese: 
我覺得這就是有創意
一件我自己很享受的事
就是設計菜單或者寫歌
做出一些屬於自己的東西
當麥當勞叫我想一些
擁有香港風味的菜單
實際上，我不知道該如何翻譯
對，Taste of Hong Kong
我就在想如何能夠把我小時候的風味
帶進一個麥當勞的漢堡包當中
我還有其他的創意正在研究中
晚點去廚房會做測試
例如，你知道香港人超喜歡吃咖哩魚蛋
我在想如果一個咖哩魚柳包
會不會行得通呢
因為差不多吧

Chinese: 
我觉得这就是有创意
一件我自己很享受的事
就是设计菜单或者写歌
做出一些属于自己的东西
当麦当劳叫我想一些
拥有香港风味的菜单
实际上，我不知道该如何翻译
对，Taste of Hong Kong
我就在想如何能够把我小时候吃的风味
带进一个麦当劳的汉堡包当中
我还有其他的创意现在正在研究
晚点进厨房会测试
譬如说，你知道香港人超喜欢吃咖喱鱼蛋
我在想那这样
是不是一个咖喱鱼柳包会行得通呢
因为差不多吧

Chinese: 
或者一个沙爹肥牛安格斯汉堡，对吗？
但创作当中常常也会有起起伏伏需要面对
譬如说如果我们做一道咖喱的食物
那可能有些孩子就不能吃了
创作路漫长，但我很喜欢
我就常常需要将这些创意灵感表现出来
我迫不及待看你
接下来有什么新的介绍给我们
谢谢
还有其他问题吗？
谢谢你今天光临
同时也谢谢你每一句话都非常坦白
我能感觉到你不是在背稿子
谢谢James
我觉得你是一个很有智慧的人
你在22岁的时候就投资了一家公司
虽然经历了一些风浪
但当你一路走过来时
你会仰望什么人吗
有没有什么人从第一天起
就是在你身边扮演着导师的角色？
或者在你不同的行业里都有提供意见的？
这是一个好问题

English: 
But maybe a [SPEAKING CHINESE].
Right.
Exactly.
But then there are ups and
downs we have to overcome.
Like if we do work
on a curry dish,
then the kids would be left out.
Right?
So it's a long journey.
But I really love it.
These are some of the creative
juices that I have to get out.
JAMES TAO: I can't wait to
see what you have in store.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
Thank you.
JAMES TAO: Any other questions?
AUDIENCE: Thank you for coming.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
AUDIENCE: And thank
you for being so
honest with everything you say.
I can just feel it that
you're not scripted.
So, thanks, James.
It seems like you have a lot
of wisdom invested in a company
back when you were 22,
even though it kind of went
through rough times.
So through all these times,
do you look up to somebody?
Is somebody your mentor that
has always been since day one?
Or that has evolved depending
on which part of the industry
that you're in?

Chinese: 
或者一個沙爹肥牛安格斯漢堡
對不對？
但創作當中常常也會有
起起伏伏需要去面對
例如如果我們做一道咖哩的食物
可能有些孩子就不能吃了
創作路漫長，但我很喜歡
我就常常需要將這些創意靈感表現出來
我迫不及待
看你接下來有甚麼新的介紹給我們
謝謝
還有其他問題嗎？
謝謝你今天前來
同時也謝謝你每一句話都非常坦白
我能感覺到你不是在背稿子
謝謝James
我覺得你是一個聰明的人
你在22歲的時候就投資了一家公司
雖然經歷了一些風浪
但當你一路走過來時
你會仰望甚麼人嗎
有沒有甚麼人從第一天起
就是在你身邊扮演著導師的角色？
或者在你不同的行業裡都有提供意見的？
這是一個好問題

Chinese: 
其实我没有这个人
我一直认为我的导师是逻辑
我从来没试过去
和任何人聊太多我自己的这些事情
可能我需要，真的
但我生命当中真的没有一个这样的人
但很多人会很仰望你啊
对，在我公司里是有的
嗯，这很有趣
我没有这个人
你会想要寻找一个导师吗？
譬如说寻找指导
-或许我想说的是
-你的意思是一个新的团队？
我知道你帮助很多年轻人
但你也很年轻啊
-同一个年代
-对，同一个年代

Chinese: 
其實我沒有這個人
我一直認為我的導師是邏輯
我從來沒試過
去和任何人談太多我自己的這些事情
可能我需要，真的
但我生命當中真的沒有一個這樣的人
但很多人會很仰望你啊
對，在我公司裡是有的
嗯，這很有趣
我沒有這個人
你會想要尋找一個導師嗎？
比如說尋找指導
-或許我想說的是
-你的意思是說一個新的團隊？
我知道你幫助很多年輕人
但你也很年輕啊
-同一個年代
-對，同一個年代

English: 
NICHOLAS TSE: Good
question, actually.
I don't have that person.
I've always thought
of my mentor as logic.
I've really not gone
to anybody about much
of this kind of stuff.
Maybe I should.
Really.
But I just don't have
that person in life.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
NICHOLAS TSE: So yes.
In my company, yes.
That's actually interesting.
I don't have that person.
JAMES TAO: Are you open
to seeking mentorship?
Like seeking help
and asking for that?
Or I don't know.
Like--
[LAUGHTER]
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
JAMES TAO: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
But what I'm saying is--
NICHOLAS TSE: Did you guys
open like a new department?
JAMES TAO: Like, I know you
help a lot of young people.
But you're also a young
person yourself, right?
So when you do come across--
NICHOLAS TSE: Same generation.
JAMES TAO: Yeah, yeah.
Same generation.

English: 
When you do come across
difficult decisions and stuff,
do you just solely--
you're comfortable relying
on yourself and just
thinking that through?
That's something I'm actually
really interested in,
because I'm facing similar kind
of situations for my career.
NICHOLAS TSE: I've
always been able to--
I've always been able
to gradually work out
the problems in my life.
So yeah.
I've really not found
that person to go to.
And then because of
the different fields
that I work on,
sometimes it's music.
Sometimes it's film.
Sometimes it's business.
Sometimes it's
kind of a bit tech.
So there's not really
that one person I
can talk to regarding
all the different fields.
AUDIENCE: Believe it
or not, some of us
actually delayed our
[INAUDIBLE] flight so we
can [INAUDIBLE] your talk.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
Thank you.
JAMES TAO: Some people
actually flew in.
NICHOLAS TSE: Really?
AUDIENCE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
Thank you.
AUDIENCE: So I'm curious to
know what are the messages
or expectation or
impact that you expect

Chinese: 
當你面臨一些困難的決定時
你覺得單靠自己可以嗎？
我對你這個想法特別感興趣
因為我常常在自己的工作上
會面臨相同的情況
我一直都能自己慢慢地解決
生活中遇到的困難
所以我還真的沒找到一個可以去問的人
而且因為我在很多不同的範圍工作
有時候是音樂
有時候是電影
有時候是做生意
有時候是科技
所以真的沒有一個人
可以和我談這麼多不同範疇的事情
我們有些同事為了這個活動
特意把我們的機票改遲了
謝謝，謝謝
有些同事還特意飛來現場聽呢
真的嗎，謝謝，謝謝
我很好奇想知道你透過音樂、電影或電視
最想帶出一些甚麼訊息、

Chinese: 
当你面临一些困难的决定时
你觉得光靠自己行吗？
我对你这个想法特别感兴趣
因为我常常在自己的工作上
会面临相同的情况
我一直都能自己慢慢的
解决生活中遇到的困难
所以我还真的没找到一个可以去问的人
而且因为我在很多不同的范围工作
有时候是音乐
有时候是电影
有时候是做生意
有时候是科技
所以真的没有一个人
可以和我聊这么多不同范畴的事情
我们有些同事为了这个活动
特意把我们的机票改晚了
谢谢，谢谢
有些同事还特意飞来现场听呢
真的吗？谢谢，谢谢
我很好奇想知道你透过音乐、电影或电视
你最想带出一些什么信息、

Chinese: 
還是你希望怎樣影響一些觀眾們？
透過音樂和電影，主要就是娛樂
我對音樂的期望會高一些
我希望我的音樂可以在日常生活當中
刺激你或安撫你
但如果要說一個更深層的信息的話
這我們希望透過《鋒味》這個節目
我剛才也提到
我們現在分享生活的方式不一定是對的
我們常常忽略了“一起吃飯”的精髓
我在廚房裡面學到了很多
如何管理時間，如何分享更多
這徹底改變了我的性格
比起還沒開始烹飪的時候
我現在是一個完全不同的人了
我覺得在今時今日

Chinese: 
还是你希望怎样影响一些观众们？
透过音乐和电影，主要就是娱乐
我对音乐的期望会高一些
我希望我的音乐可以在日常生活当中
刺激你或安抚你
但如果要说一个更深层的信息的话
这我们希望透过《锋味》这个节目
我刚才也提到
我们现在分享生活的方式不一定是对的
我们常常忽略了“一起吃饭”的精髓
我在厨房里面学到了很多
如何管理时间，如何分享更多
这彻底改变了我的性格
比起没开始烹饪的时候
我现在是一个完全不同的人了
我觉得在今时今日

English: 
to bring through your music,
your art, or entire passion to
[INAUDIBLE]?
NICHOLAS TSE: Through music,
through movies, of course.
Mainly it's entertainment.
And music, I could say,
I hope it brings more--
I hope my music can also
stimulate or console you
in your everyday life.
But in terms of
a deeper message,
we're trying to do that
through the "Chef Nic" show.
Because as like what I was
saying about we don't share
correctly or how we are missing
the essence of eating together,
I really, really learned a
lot through the kitchen--
the time management
stuff, the sharing part.
It has changed my
personality immensely.
I was a really different person
before I started cooking.
And I think especially
in this day and age

English: 
we hope to promote a lot
more activities or wilderness
wildlife activities,
or stuff that you
could do apart from just looking
at the phone or the computer.
I think that's a very, very
important part of life.
AUDIENCE: I've got a question
more about your film career.
So I just wanted to
know moving forward--
so first of all, congratulations
on the Best Actor award.
Moving forward for your
future film projects,
are you going to be pursuing
more action-driven movies
like "Police Story"?
Or are you going to go for more
controversial or dramatic roles
that kind of further challenge
your acting abilities?
NICHOLAS TSE: I don't
really have a preference.
I think that I am--
sometimes you need a bit of
luck when you're given a script.
The cast has got to be right.
The story has to be right.
The whole crew has to be right.
The timing has to be right.

Chinese: 
我们希望推广更多的活动
例如野外的生活或体验
一些你可以放下手机或电脑
出去做的事情
我觉得这是人生当中非常重要的一部分
我想问问关于你的电影事业
首先恭喜你成为最佳男演员
我想知道多点关于你将来的电影计划
你会想拍多点像警察故事那样的动作片呢
还是想多做一点
更富争议性或戏剧性的角色
去多挑战点你的演技呢？
我真的没有特别的喜好
我认为
有时你需要一点运气获得好剧本
演员们必须要对
剧本必须要对
整个工作团队必须要对
时机必须要对
我们在电影界常说

Chinese: 
我們希望推廣更多的活動
例如野外的生活或體驗
一些你可以放下手機或電腦
出去做的事情
我覺得這是人生當中非常重要的一部分
我想問問關於你的電影事業
首先恭喜你成為最佳男演員
我想知道多點關於你將來的電影計劃
你會想拍多點像《警察故事》
那樣的動作片嗎
還是想多做一點更具爭議性
或戲劇性的角色
去多挑戰點你的演技呢？
我真的沒有特別的喜好
我認為
有時你需要一點運氣獲得好劇本
演員們必須要對
劇本必須要對
整個工作團隊必須要對
時機必須要對
我們在電影界常說

Chinese: 
每部電影都有它自己的旅程
當機會到你的時候
你能做的只是盡力而為
但我目前正在計劃一部新電影
幾個月後開拍
是一部動作片
我覺得香港電影必須找回自己的根
對我來說，港產片就等於動作片
大家從來不會
第一時間想起香港的戲劇電影
所以會很辛苦
但我覺得我需要再訓練一下對打
可能從一些大廈上跳下來吧
我相信今天很多人都是你的粉絲
無論在場或者在看影片的都是
你今天開始時講了一些關鍵字
你的一生當中
如果用關鍵字來形容
你的性格、你今天的成就

Chinese: 
每部电影都有他自己的旅程
当机会给到你的时候
你能做的只是尽力而为
但我目前正在计划一部新电影
几个月后开拍
是一部动作片
我觉得香港电影必须找回自己的根
对我来说，港产片就等于动作片
大家从来不会第一时间
想起香港的戏剧电影
所以会很幸苦
但我觉得我需要再训练一下对打
可能从一些大楼上跳下来吧
我相信今天很多人都是你的粉丝
无论在场或者在看视频的都是
你今天开始时讲了一些关键字
你的一生当中
如果用关键字来形容
你的性格、你今天的成就

English: 
We always say that in
the movie industry.
Each movie has its
own journey, really.
All you could do is do your
best when it is handed to you.
But I do think there
is one that I'm
planning on in a few months.
It is action packed.
I do think Hong Kong has to find
its roots some way, somehow.
And to me, Hong Kong movie
is about Hong Kong action.
It has never really been
about Hong Kong drama.
So it's going to be tough.
But I think, yes,
I'm going to have
to dig down and fight again.
And maybe jump off
some buildings.
AUDIENCE: I think many of
us are big fans of yours--
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.
AUDIENCE: --here in
the room and on video.
And you started the talk
with your [INAUDIBLE]..
So I was just wondering
reflecting back
on your life path, what are
some of the key words that

Chinese: 
是什么让你拥有一个
这么成功的生活及事业
可否与我们分享一下？谢谢
我的关键字会是“创意”
“韧劲”
“协调作用”
資源丰富
不过，不同的阶段会有不同的关键字
对我来说，如果我贪心一点的话
我觉得这些都是我的关键字
在我们结束之前
我有一个从美国来的问题
哇！现在那边几点啊？
嗯... 蛮晚的...
在我们Google总部
我们有一个计划叫做KitchenSync
会邀请一些厨师上
来教我们的同事们如何烹饪

Chinese: 
是甚麼讓你擁有一個
這麼成功的生活及事業
可否與我們分享一下？謝謝
我的關鍵字會是“創意”
“韌勁”
“協同效應”
資源豐富
不過，不同的階段會有不同的關鍵字
對我來說，如果我貪心一點的話
我覺得這些都是我的關鍵字
在我們結束之前
我有一個從美國來的問題
哇！現在那邊幾點啊？
嗯... 都挺晚了...
在我們Google總部
我們有一個計劃叫做KitchenSync
會邀請一些廚師
上來教我們的同事們如何烹飪

English: 
define your character, who you
are today that made you to be
a successful life,
successful career,
and maybe just share some
words of wisdom with us.
Thank you.
NICHOLAS TSE: Key words
would be creativity.
Key words would be--
would be tenacity.
Key words would be
synergy, actually.
Resourcefulness.
But different key words come
at different times, really.
And to me, if I
was to be greedy,
I would say every
word is a key word.
Yeah.
JAMES TAO: Cool.
So before we wrap up, just one
question from somebody watching
from the States, actually.
NICHOLAS TSE: Wow.
What time is it over there?
JAMES TAO: It is late.
So basically, they said,
at our headquarters
we have a program
called Kitchen Sink.
And there are chefs
that come all the time
to teach how to cook.

Chinese: 
如果你那天在加州
你會不會也有興趣上來舉辦一次？
當然！當然！
其實，說到這點，我覺得科技方面
如果你們研究出怎麼做一個
嗯，其實我目前對於VR眼鏡有一些問題
當你在教烹飪的時候
一個很大的問題就是深度
你很難做到身體前傾往鍋裡看
所以如果你們解決了這個問題的話請
告訴我
好啊！我們可以一起看看
我們能怎麼合作啊！
我現在在洛杉磯的
Digital Domain公司
擔任亞太區的行銷總監
我們公司是負責幫
《復仇者聯盟》的電影系列做後期製作
所以如果你們研究出這種科技
麻煩請告訴我
好啊！
今天我們Talks at Google
已經接近尾聲了
謝謝大家的參與
霆鋒，謝謝你百忙中抽空
來和我們分享你的故事

Chinese: 
如果你那天在加州
你会不会也有兴趣上来举办一次？
当然！当然！
其实，说到这点，我觉得科技方面
如果你们研究出怎么做一个
嗯，其实我目前对于VR眼镜有一些问题
当你在教烹饪的时候
一个很大的问题就是深度
你很难做到身体前倾往锅里看
所以如果你们解决了这个问题的话
请告诉我
好啊！我们可以一起看看
我们可以怎么合作啊！
我现在在洛杉矶的
Digital Domain公司
担任亚太区的行销总监
我们公司是负责帮
《复仇者联盟》的电影系列做后期制作
所以如果你们研究出这种科技
麻烦请告诉我
好啊！
今天我们Talks at Google
已经接近尾声了
谢谢大家的参与
霆锋，谢谢你百忙中抽空
来和我们分享你的故事

English: 
And if you're ever in
the area, would that
be something you would
be interested in hosting?
NICHOLAS TSE: Cool.
Cool.
Hey, speaking of which,
I think tech-wise,
right now I'm having problems
with working on the VR goggle.
Like, when you're
teaching cooking,
the problem is the depth.
You can't lean into the pot
and see what's in there.
If you guys crack that
problem, please tell me.
Yeah?
JAMES TAO: Oh, we can--
we can work together
and see what we can do.
NICHOLAS TSE: Seriously,
because I'm still
the Asia-Pacific marketing
director for the digital domain
company in LA.
And we're still doing on the
post-production for "Avengers,"
for all those series.
So if you guys ever come up
with that kind of tech, tell me,
please.
JAMES TAO: Awesome.
So that brings us to the
end of our Talks at Google.
Thank you everybody for coming.
Thank you, Nick, for taking your
precious time to share with us.
NICHOLAS TSE: Thank you.

English: 
[APPLAUSE]
