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Stanford University.
>> All right, great to see
everyone, welcome back, hacking
consciousness, session three.
Physiology and consciousness part two,
really excited
to have you here again, just a quick
review before
we hand it over to our wonderful guest,
Tony Nader, again.
So, in session one, we essentially learned
that
nature is structured in layers, and at the
most fundamental level, you've got the
unified
field, in which in this frame work, as,
consciousness,
and through a technique of transcending,
you can
access that consciousness, that unified
field, and then in
session two, Dr. Nada basically did a
really
nice review of the field of, human
biology, and
cognitive science.
And introduced us, essentially to, the
hard and easy problems,
that are faced, by the scientists in these
fields.
And also, in terms of what are the
different
states of consciousness that we have
within these fields.
So, then he also presented the thesis
that matter is just an appearance of
consciousness.
That's a really big idea, and, a very very
big idea,
I'd say [LAUGH], and I'm really curious to
see, you know what.
Some of the proof points are from Dr. Nader
and how you could possibly arrive at that
conclusion.
So without further ado I'd love to hand
it over
to Dr. Nader who will talk more about it
thank you.
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Good afternoon.
I will [COUGH] start by reviewing quickly
what we have covered before.
Michael did a great job.
But just going through the slides.
We defined consciousness, and with respect
to other possible ways of
looking at awareness, alertness, and then
we state there are different.
States of consciousness that we do
actually go through,
waking, dreaming, sleep, but we have
different impaired states
of consciousness that can go from
anesthesia, to coma, to
very great awake states of consciousness,
they are all good.
State of consciousness that also can go
from hallucinogens
and different states of drowsiness and
awakefulness all the
way to what's called higher states of
consciousness by
people who experience things like
spiritual experiences of ecstasy.
In the east it's called samadhi, nirvana,
transcending.
So consciousness has all kinds of aspects
and, qualities to it that we
experience that is the changing relative
consciousness and we wonder if there is
something that is pure non-changing field
of consciousness.
We looked at the different aspects of
consciousness
in terms of wakefulness and arousal, and
activity, and
then we found that there is a correlation
between these different states of
consciousness and brain activity.
In this case for example the brain
metabolism,
but there are different analyses of
electroencephalography and
different analysis of PET scanning that
shows what happens
in the brain in the different states of
consciousness.
We also touched on the field of how
information is processed, and that
it's not also always conscious, but there
is some subconscious implicit perception.
Implicit learning and unconscious reality.
We also define two kinds of generally
consciousness at
background, consciousness which is what we
acknowledge to be
ourself, who we are, our identity and what
are
the specifics of consciousness which are
our wishes, intentions.
Desires that project on that identity, on
that self consciousness.
There is individual consciousness, we know
what we are conscious of,.
How can we decide whether anyone else or
anything else is conscious?
And as Michael said, we touched on the
easy problem and the hard problem.
The easy problem is the relative problem
which takes
us to the neuronal or neural correlates of
consciousness
which means what's happening in the brain
when we
are aware or experience anything, and
that's relatively easy.
It's still not yet completely understood
but relatively we can say one day we will.
Discover how, when we look at the flower
we have a beautiful image of the
flower, we acknowledge the color of it,
and we know that it is a flower,
but that can happen through the different
parts of the brains that we covered and
there are, as we said, primary areas of
perception and then there is the
associative area.
The association areas which seem to be
more correlated to when we have actually.
Experience of consciousness and that is
the reticular formation which works as.
The thermostat of consciousness,
waking us up and
making us asleep so there is these
different.
aspects of neuronal activity,
brain activity that we know are directly
correlated with our alertness, our
wakefulness and also with our experience.
Now the self there are different levels of
ourself.
We discussed the physical self, and the
nonphysical more
thought level self, the physical self of
the body, the awareness of
what's happening in our physiology, and
then we checked a little
bit about time and how time is processed
in our awareness.
Then, the main problem that we want to.
Handle is what is really consciousness?
And that's the hard problem, hard problem
for scientists.
It's usually taught in terms of Qualia,
which means individual moments of
awareness or continuing.
moments of awareness in which we are
aware of something that is
more than just the redness, the red of the
flower, but the actual redness of
the flower and what it causes to us, why
we are feeling it's beautiful,
why we are feeling we like it, why it
brings memories, it brings, subjective
experiences and it becomes personal and it
enters in our life and it has a meaning.
So all of these moments of consciousness
that
we experience in a very subjective way
that
are very abstract, its very hard to find
why and how the brain brings them about.
This problem of consciousness, in terms of
the hard questions actually takes us
to more than simply the basic feelings
and scientific understanding of correlates
of consciousness.
But it takes us to all kinds of questions
that are philosophical
nature: determinism, free will, is there law and
order in the universe.
What's the universe really like?
To what extent we can depend on what our
awareness or our consciousness tells us.
We took the example that we see
the
sun moving in the sky, we say the sun
moves.
From the east to the west, but then when
we analyze properly, we
find that it's the earth standing around
the sun, so our sensory perception
is sometimes misleading about the reality
of things, and that's in a very
classical term, but even when we go
further and look at the quantum
mechanical reality, we find that [COUGH]
the quantum mechanical.
Which is the basis [COUGH] of all that we
call classical.
Which what we encounter into how objects
move, how things are perceived.
That there is some fundamental aspect of
nature, in which particles are not
localized they are, have a probability to
be anywhere.
An electron has a probability to be in a
very large number of places, practically a
subatomic particle can
be almost anywhere in space, and it is
when the
observer looks at it, that it collapses at
a point.
Since we are all made out of particles, does
it
mean we are also potentially in every part
of space, and that we collapse somewhere.
All of these wave function analyses and
all of these aspects of modern
scientific understanding and findings of
quantum mechanics, really tell us that
the senses give us very, very vague idea
of the reality.
We know that for example our ears can hear
only a certain frequency of sound.
Our eyes can see a certain frequency of
light, and suppose that we had a system
in our nervous system that instead of
seeing
the electromagnetic field we could see,
let's say.
The magnetic field, or we could see the
gravitational field, then all this space
that we
are around that seems empty and has
nothing
in it, we would actually be full and
solid.
It would become opaque.
So, there is a relativity on the reality
of what
we experience because gravity is
everywhere, suppose that our system.
could see gravity and therefore would
be flooded with gravity.
We would be living in walls.
We wouldn't be seeing anything.
So [COUGH] this really brings to our
awareness
the relative nature of our, our sensory
experience.
This has led to long discussions in
science and philosophy,
about what is real, and we
have discussed a
little bit about uncertainty, in nature,
and different aspects of
the laws of nature, going as Dr.
Hagelin and the
first session presented from different
layers of reality all the way.
to the unified field, and we
discussed the different kinds of realities
that
ultimately are classified in our general
understanding,
be it philosophy or science, and there is
the material reality, the physical
changing reli,
re, reality, and there is that
reality which is mostly now concentrated
and,
and and going around the field of
consciousness.
That is the nonphysical, and it has its
own reality also, because it is and
through consciousness that we experience
love, that we have subjective feelings.
That we have fears that make us make
decisions, that we have
attractions, et cetera, and that is
another aspect of our own reality.
There are two kinds and sources of
knowledge that we have also,
and that one is a subjective level, which
is using our reasoning,
our intellect, logic, mathematics.
These are really subjective at levels of
understanding.
We use mechanism inside our consciousness,
inside our awareness, to say that one
plus one equal two and we create equations
and debate on these equations.
We try to understand the universe.
This is not something which primarily is
an objective
reality, which is based on matter and
physical structures.
It's something which is totally a
phenomenon
of a dynamics that happen in
consciousness.
So,
we face the reality of, [COUGH] the
reality question, [COUGH] which is
normally considered in philosophy in terms
of ontology, which is, what is real?
What is, what does our perception show us?
What is fantasy?
What is dream?
What can we trust?
And for us humans, we said there is one
thing actually that we can
trust, and that is that we are conscious
because when you look at all
the data and all the findings and all the
analysis, ultimately all
the physical world is not as trustworthy,
except
in relative terms as consciousness which
means, in absolute
terms, everything is changing.
Everything is dependent on the mechanisms
of perceptions that we have.
For instance, a geiger counter will see
the universe differently from a human
brain.
How does the fish see the universe?
How does the tree see the universe?
How does the particle see the universe, how
does a different
machine with a different kind of computing
see the universe and
what is the real reality of the universe,
it is something
that is still open to discussion in terms
of scientific understanding.
There is one thing for us humans that is
absolutely sure.
That is we are conscious, and that is a
basis of a long philosophy that has
emerged from
this and the questions of where is this
consciousness
coming from, where is this consciousness
coming from, and in.
this area there are two different
growing categories because in this slide,
there
are different theories we don't want to go
through them necessarily one by one.
We can see that they are divided into two.
There is the vision of our reality and our
universe, that we have two realities.
That's the dualism part.
It says that is something physical or
material, it chooses
to be called always materialism or
material value of life.
Now if you hear the term physicalism its
because there
is a difference between energy and matter
and there is,
when you're going into quantum mechanics
matter is so non
local, it's so much just waves and fields
that you
cannot call it matter but it's still
energy
and it's still something that is
understandable in terms
of transformation of energy and so
scientists and philosophers
started to say OK it's not materialism, it's
physicalism.
Anything that is physical.
So the dualistic perception of our reality
of the universe or
pluralistic if you like, has two things.
It says that it is matter, or physical
variety on one side, and there
is the spiritual aspect, that is our mind
and consciousness on the other side.
This was something since Descartes that
has been
taken the Cartesian approach, as there are
these two.
The problem having these two is not an
issue, the
problem is how do they interact with each
other and which
one is really real, and whether one comes
from the other,
how is it possible that one would come
from the other.
That's the main question.
This question faces the monistic
perspective.
Monistic perspective is an opposition to
the dualistic understanding of
consciousness versus matter.
That is monism says it could be
materialistic monism
or it could be idealism and that's what
we're seeing here on this, on this slide.
The materialistic monism says there is
nothing but matter.
Forget about consciousness, consciousness,
if you're conscious
fine, you're conscious, but it comes from
matter.
Matter has evolved it has produced the
brain, the brain interacts in a
certain way with its own self, and
it produces something that we call
consciousness.
The other side is not to the contrary.
It's all, it's all actually spirit, it's
all mind,
it's all reality of one thing that
actually kind
of somehow, we don't understand how, it
shows up as matter.
And this, there are idealism in this
sense, or neutral monism, which
says okay, there is one thing, we don't
know what it is.
And that one thing produces both,
actually,
consciousness or non-material reality and
material reality.
But the origin is one, always the origin
is one.
Now, we're not going to go into this, this
kind
of forum about creation and god and all of
that.
We could but it is not the idea to go into
belief systems and all of that.
We're trying to analyze consciousness from
a scientific perspective.
Now if we go to this monistic perspective,
the main
problem in monism is how one comes from
the other.
That is the main problem because you could
assume anything.
You could say there is, there is a God,
there is a
creation, there is a universe, there is
consciousness and all of that.
The problem that scientists face is
how this non material reality becomes
material.
Or how this material reality, physical
reality creates the non-material.
That is the main issue.
And how will they interact.
The easiest solution is to say, either
this exists or the other
doesn't exist and that's usually even
easier than trying to find the logic.
Now what comes to our help, is the greater
and
greater understanding of what physics is,
what the physical reality is.
So, you have seen this chart, and I'd like
to
repeat it a little bit because it's very
important, cause when
modern science analyzes, let's say, this
is the whole universe, but
here we are seeing a society, is made out
of individuals.
Individuals are made out of organ systems,
organs, tissues, cells and molecules
and then when you look at the molecules
and the matter fields and the force
fields, you find that there are four force
field and matter fields that are
the, you know, different electromagnetic
field, weak
force, strong force, and the,
gravitational force.
And then, gradually, these have been
unified and
Nobel prizes have been given to those who
have found this unification that
ultimately brings us
to the conclusion that there is a unified
field.
So there are unified field theories today
that explain that there is one reality.
It's really abstract.
It's in a sense non physical.
And from that reality in some ways, some
vibrational
ways, something emerge all the fields and
then the fields
and they're vibrational forms, et cetera,
they create quanta of
energy, this quanta of energy collect
together to create atoms.
Atoms collect together to create molecules
and so on to create the entire universe.
So, when we look at, consciousness, we can
say, and this
is the assumption, this is the, theory,
this is the presentation.
That consciousness is actually that
singularity, singularity
means single, it's not multiple, it's one
reality.
And that one reality and one single
reality, one unified field reality is
actually consciousness.
And we're writing it here with a, an
uppercase C.
So the proposed solution that I am
proposing to you is that consciousness is
primary.
And in fact, we don't have to worry about
how it creates anything physical.
[COUGH] We're going to say it doesn't
create anything physical as we know it.
So we're going to follow this logic a
little bit, and see how it takes us,
where it takes us, how our reasoning can
make us believe that this is possible.
So we're saying that matter is just an
appearance within consciousness.
So that is what I like to call the hard
solution.
The hard solution because it's a simple
solution in a way because
consciousness is all that there is, that's
all that we know about.
It's the most intimate thing about us and
that we know about so we're fine.
We know we're conscious.
That's one thing we know is there but what
happens, what we see you know.
Is it really like this?
Does it change?
Does it, what is its real nature?
We can't really grasp, but we grasp
consciousness so it
is simple for us logically to say that
there is consciousness.
It is hard, because here we say,
consciousness is singularity, yet
we see multiplicity, we see people, we see
chairs, we see trees, we see galaxies.
This is multiplicity.
How can this be possible?
So, we discussed a little bit, these
points last time, that
consciousness, why this is simple and why
it is hard, for example.
The hard part is certainly, that what we
trust most, which is our senses,
usually, is in fact going to be said to be
the most deceptive thing that we have.
So, that's a hard solution to accept.
Something hard to digest.
And, so, in that way we have the different
aspects of reality.
To help us.
Understand the hard and the simple part.
We just have to, try to look into
history and put ourselves in different
dimensions and see
for example when people lived with what
what
they used to consider the geocentric
universe, which means
the earth is the center of the universe.
This was a belief, a dogma.
Everybody believed in that.
That perception created all kinds of
theories about the movement
of planets, about the universe and how it
works, etcetera.
And it was very hard, that's again hard
and simple, to
accept that the Earth is not the center of
the universe.
That actually our planetary system, is
heliocentric.
To accept that was very hard, because
everything depended on that logic, on that
dogma.
So on the consciousness of the people, it
was very difficult to accept
that, and in fact, as we know they fought
people and it was a
big issue when we started with Galileo and
all of that trying to
say no, we are not in the center, the sun
is at the center.
The space time experience, also.
You know, when they analyze the speed of
light and how
speed moves, etc, we don't need to go into
these details.
There were impossibilities in science to
understand how could this be?
It's impossible to solve the problem.
What you got is some Einstein who said
something absolutely unbelievable
and that is that space and time are
related and they are both relative.
The thing which you most believe in that
you're standing
on this ground, that time goes by the
clock, that
you live so much it's completely relative
if you were
to travel at the speed of light time will
stop.
You will not age, and the space will
completely change.
It will either dilate at a certain
speed or will contract, will actually
physically contract.
This hard thing that we are sitting in can
shrink.
Completely shrink.
Becomes like a point.
That's their theory of relativity.
This is, as if, counterintuitive.
It's hard to digest, but that is the
reality and that's
the only solution that actually gives an
answer to this hard problem.
In a similar way, we are posed today to
ask ourselves these big questions
and see how we can actually solve them and
that is where the answer comes.
So the answer comes from the fact that we
said consciousness
is primary and I would like to encourage
you to raise your hand if you have, in
the following minutes the question there's
something
that I have not explained completely and
you want to clarification, please raise
your
hand and we'll make it an interaction.
So we all understand what is the
assumption, what is the theory.
The theory is consciousness is primary.
The problem that we have is how all of us
come to be as we are
and our universe come to be as it is from
this field of complete abstractness.
In order to resolve this issue, we have to
go
to a question which is very simple in a
sense.
What is consciousness?
What is consciousness, meaning what are
the dynamics of conscious?
What does it take to say consciousness.
To say consciousness you have to have
three elements.
Without these three you cannot have
consciousness.
You have to have an observer.
You have to have the observer observing
something.
And there must be a process that connects
the observer
to the process of observation, to the
observation, to the object.
Is this clear?
Is this, understood?
Because conscious, what do you mean I am
conscious?
I am conscious of what?
You must be conscious of something.
Otherwise there is no consciousness,
alright?
So the consciousness, if we're saying
consciousness is primary, it means there
is a field which has a self referral auto
referral
reality and its quality is that it is
consciousness.
Okay?
Now I have developed these different
aspects of consciousness.
We'll see how it comes to us.
Is that will allow us to study
consciousness.
We study consciousness by saying that it
is something that has three values.
There is an observer, there is an
observed, and there is a process of
observation.
The observer feature can be quantified in
terms
of its, what we will call, its
observerhood.
It's a new English term [LAUGH],
which I hope will go in the dictionary
[LAUGH].
And we're going to give it a simple, a
symbol, O is for observe, observing, etc.,
and the R is for observer because you're
going to see observed and observing.
Now what is this O R in consciousness, in
this primary singularity of consciousness?
How much, how big is it?
It's infinite.
It cannot be otherwise, because there is
nothing
else but consciousness, that's what we are
agreeing.
Since there is nothing else but
consciousness, the quantity of O R which
is observerhood which is the ability to
observe is infinite, okay?
Now what is the object or observed again
that's another new term [LAUGH]
observedhood [LAUGH] the ability to be
observed to be an object.
Now they will call it O with a D for
observed, the D there, Okay, now
what is in this primary singular observed,
what is observed?
Observedhood, it's infinite because there
is nothing but itself.
Okay, it's also infinite.
It is observing itself, in fact.
This primary consciousness which is the
unified
field is only observing itself, so its
ability to observe is infinite, and the
ability to be observed is also infinite.
And the observedhood quality of it is
infinite.
Okay, so, in the singularity of
consciousness, observedhood is infinite.
So all the equal infinite.
>> [INAUDIBLE] What
What do you mean by the ability of being
infinite?
>> [NOISE] You see there is consciousness
and consciousness requires
three values now these three values are,
we are talking in the
singularity and the unified field in the
oneness of existence.
Let's imagine that there is a time when, we
all are not dead, nothing is dead.
It's just before the Big Bang.
Okay, just before the moments of the big
bang.
And there we're saying, the theory is,
what
we're presenting, is that there is
consciousness there.
Okay now, it's not to prove that there is
consciousness, but this is the proposition
and when you make a proposition, you start
to see, how it can make things work.
Does it make sense?
Could it lead to logical conclusions?
So the problem we're facing is
how this consciousness actually leads to
differentiation.
The fact that it is consciousness already
contains within it
the three qualities of observer, observed
and observing.
But the three qualities of observer,
observed, and observing are infinite, are
non,
non-local, they are everything that there
is, and the, before the big bang, okay?
>> When, when you come to that conclusion,
we are oft, oft
to say that there is a consciousness we
have to be conscious.
So it only happens when consciousness
becomes conscious, and when
that happens, then therefore you have to
include those three items.
If consciousness will not become conscious
then the
items that you just described will not
happen, but.
>> there cannot be consciousness, why
should we call it consciousness?
We could call it, love, we could call it
feeling, we could call it anything.
We're calling it consciousness, we are
making the logical decision because we
want
to hack consciousness we are deciding, you
know, that okay that is consciousness.
Let's see where this kind of logic leads
us.
That's how the logic is going.
The thing is, there is no proof
of consciousness except in terms of
personal experience.
So, people experience consciousness.
They go through, you know, they meditate
they have higher states of consciousness.
They have samadhi they have nirvana.
They take a drug they get hallucination
they sleep there is no wakefulness.
They dream the consciousness go though
this.
There is no way to tackle consciousness
except subjectively.
Cause there is nowhere you can see if I am
conscious or not.
You know you're conscious.
I could be a zombie just telling you
stories [LAUGH].
So, what do you know what I have in me as
consciousness?
There is no way to experience or analyze
consciousness except one way.
Except subjectively.
So there is no way to come to a deduction
and say, therefore, that is consciousness.
The way we're going to do it is like in
mathematics.
You take an axiom, a theory, and you say,
I'm
going to suppose that consciousness is
this, as I'm saying now.
Consciousness is primary.
Consciousness is singularity.
And see if I can from this logic deduct
certain things that actually will work.
If they do work and they obey all the laws
that we have seen.
If, if they answer also many questions
that we have not been able to answer.
Then we can say, well, it is a logic that
can make sense.
It's a theory that could be considered.
So the proof of the theory, in this case,
is by
the practicality of its answers to the
questions that we are
having about consciousness, so we are
reverting the problem, and
taking an assumption, and try to see if
this assumption could make sense.
Okay?
>> I was just thinking it might
be helpful to equate consciousness to
silent intelligence.
Because.
>> I think if you have question it's good
because the time
is limited and I have to go through my
theory not yours [LAUGH].
[LAUGH] We can see at the end, if we have
time for other theories.
Okay, but any questions about this theory
that I am presenting?
All right, so far we say fine, there is
nothing but conscious, it's a theory.
I mean, you can't.
And I'm saying, this is what it is.
Of course, how did I prove it?
I didn't prove anything.
I just giving you a, a proposal of
something.
Because we are saying it's consciousness,
we are
saying, okay, it must have these three
values.
But these three values and the primary
state
of its own existence are all that there
is.
There is nothing else that's our
supposition already, so this
is included in the theorem, it is included
in the assumption.
Okay?
So this is the assumption and therefore
similarly, the observinghood, meaning what
connects the observer to the observed is
the system of observing.
So the observinghood and that quality, oh.
Superscript G is also infinite.
They're all infinite.
It's three infinities we have.
Okay, that's the theory.
Now,
what does it mean that O R is infinite?
Now we know O R is observer.
Okay?
It means that consciousness has no limit
in it's ability to observe, yet it
is always observing itself since there is
nothing else to be observed, okay?
[LAUGH]
Now when we say the observed is infinite,
it, it
means that consciousness is all possible
objects because that's objects observed.
At the same time the only object is
actually itself.
Okay similarly when we say the O G is
infinite it means all possible
relationships between observers and
observeds are implicit in consciousness.
But the only possible relationships in
consciousness is itself within itself.
Okay?
It's a theory.
It's an assumption.
So far so good?
All right, now what is consciousness,
then?
Consciousness we can start to define it
now, with its constituent elements.
Instead of going into what is the brain,
and how the brain
can create this, what we are doing is
reverting the problem altogether.
We are starting from consciousness and
saying, what
is consciousness, what does it, what does
it contain?
What is it actually?
Can you define it?
So the, consciousness we are saying here
is the togetherness of the three features.
The observer, the observed and the
observing, which connect them.
Each of them is of infinite value.
Okay?
So this is just for mathematics purposes.
We can write it like this ultimately.
That consciousness equal consciousness
bracket with that
is consciousness with a, with an uppercase
c.
Equals.
A reality in which consciousness has
infinite observer, infinite observed, and
infinite observing.
So infinite observerhood, observedhood,
and observinghood, okay?
We are, we are agree on this?
>> Why do you say that the observer can
only observe itself?
>> Cause there is nothing else but itself.
>> [INAUDIBLE] infinite of material
[INAUDIBLE]
>> Yeah, but that's itself.
>> [INAUDIBLE] observer.
>> That's itself.
>> All three are just one.
>> Just one.
That is the the three one structure of
consciousness.
>> So then why [INAUDIBLE]
>> We need three because it's called
consciousness.
[LAUGH]
If it was called imagination I don't know
it
could be ten, or twenty, or million, or
infinite.
But consciousness at its basis, to be
conscious of something
how can you be, what does it mean to be
conscious?
It means there is an observer, who is
conscious observing something is conscious
of something, right?
So you are forced to have a reflective
relationship in which one side
is actually an observer and other side is
something that's observed.
That's why it's consciousness, it's
reflecting on itself.
But what connects the observer to the
observed?
Some kind of mechanism.
What is it?
It's own self.
It's own singularity.
What we are doing here is defining
consciousness with an upper case C.
As being the reality.
this is the primary singularity.
As being the reality in which observer
observed and observinghoods
are infinite, unlimited, and they are the
same.
There is singularity, they're exactly the
same.
So you're observing yourself.
It's a self observing mechanism.
>> And that only applies to the example
that he gave about a point before the
event?
>> Yes.
Because in daily life they're really not
all the same.
>> Exactly.
So that's a special example.
>> That's, that's the just.
Yeah just, I'm just trying to tell the
scientists,
come on this is what happened before the
big bang.
Which is something nobody has any idea
about.
[LAUGH] And when you look at the
calculations,
[LAUGH] when you look at he calculations
of mathematics,
that's why they tell you, we know just a
fraction of a moment before after the big
bang.
But what happened before the big bang.
All the equations collapsed.
All the physics equations that analyzed
what happened exactly at the big
bang, or before the big bang, they take
you to some crazy place.
Where energy is infinite, or time is zero.
They get into all kinds of things that
don't make sense.
So I'm saying, look, I'm giving you the
answer.
[LAUGH].
>> I was raised with, I think, a simpler
definition of consciousness than yours
and that is, that consciousness is what
you have less and less of as you go to sleep.
>> [LAUGH] Yeah, that is relative
consciousness.
We'll get to that.
That is not your consciousness that you're
experiencing now, you know.
That is not, that is the big C
consciousness.
That is the consciousness, and it's good
you pointed out, before the big bang.
That is just pure existence, the unified
field In which all these values are
infinite.
Self referral, infinite experience of pure
existence consciousness.
Okay?
Now the problem with faith is fine it's
sitting by itself happy and all is good.
Why does it bother to create this entire
universe?
How come from that one consciousness
we're getting this multiplicity of
concsiousnesses?
And we see how we can do that.
Which means, what are the bits of
consciousness is that
you're asking about like my consciousness
or your consciousness or something.
We can define these bit of consciousness
at capital C, but
it could be just because it's at the
beginning of a sentence.
It could be lower case c.
It says any consciousness any bit of
consciousness is the bit consciousness
but it's this quality of consciousness in
which the observer is
O r and you see here I wrote it with a
lower case r.
Is that Or is X, Og is Y, and Od is Z.
Which means now we are defining any bit of
the experience of consciousness in which
there is an observer.
How much he has observerhood quality is
defined by O r In this case O r equals X.
There is an object to be observed.
You know, you're looking at the flower,
you're looking
at the planet, whatever you are, this is
the object.
And that object is observed equals Z.
And then you are living in this universe
of ours in which there are ways to look at
the planets or to look at the flowers which
are defined by the electromagnetic fields.
By this, by that, by all the laws of
nature that
connects you as an observer to the flower
that is being observed.
And these are what we would call the laws
of nature, and they are
defined in this particular case by the
observing, which has a value of Y.
So any bit of consciousness can be defined
by such an equation.
Okay?
So, therefore here is says, you know, the C
of alpha or a bit is equal to, like this,
it's the same as this kind of equation.
Now we still haven't answered how this
goes into multiplicity.
We have, we have infinite
potential observing infinite, pure,
unbounded consciousness.
And we have said there are bits of
consciousnesses and they could be defined.
But how this comes to that?
What makes this one consciousness become
many?
What makes the one become the many and
gets differentiated.
So, here is a bit of what looks
complicated but it's actually very simple.
It says for the singularity for
consciousness, each of
the three features of consciousness can be
seen as dominant.
And this gives three possibilities.
If you look at, observer by himself.
Don't look too much at this, it'll
complicate life.
>> [LAUGH]
>> Too many symbols.
But it's just one way to write it.
Look at me.
>> [LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH].
You are the infinite observer, right?
You're sitting there, I am infinite
observerhood,
I'm infinity in terms of observer value.
How much do you have, yourself, as an
observer, of actually the value of being
an object?
As an observer, so when O r is seen and
looks at itself
as being infinite its actually has zero
object
quality and zero obs, zero observing
quality.
The observerhood is absolutely infinite,
therefore it cannot
tolerate to be an object in a sense.
>> Can it not have all the properties of
the other?
>> Well then it would be the big
consciousness.
Then we would be talking about
consciousness.
The big consciousness with a capital C
has all, has all, the three qualities
together.
Now we are, intellectually trying to
analyze what is the component
in OR being infinite, what would be the
component OD and OD?
They're zero, because that OR is infinite.
It means it tolerates nothing but being an
infinite observer.
So observer hood is infinite.
Observer hood is infinite, itself it
doesn't see itself as an object.
Do you follow?
Here there is, is a duality in the
problem, because we said it's the same
thing, okay?
The same observer when he looks at himself
or herself or itself, whatever it is.
The same infinite observer when it looks
at itself as an object,
it sees itself as an infinite object and
it sees itself as the dynamics
of infinite potential of observing, but
when we analyse.
That this, there are three values and the
one
value of singularity of consciousness,
there are three values.
Now we're going to say, well we're not any
more analyzing the primary value
of big consciousness, we are looking at
its components independently.
And now we take the observer isolated and
say what it is.
Well, it's an infinite just pure observer
quality.
There is nothing else within itself except
being an observer.
Okay?
And, and that is what leads to the fact
that when you look at any of these
independently, you find that they have
none of the other values.
They are infinite object, infinite
subject, and infinite process of
observing.
You see the difference?
Not so clear?
>> Why, why isn't it small [INAUDIBLE],
it's smaller than the [INAUDIBLE]?
>> Because it's 0, I, I didn't go through
the definition, that the big R
is always mean infinity, infi, means it
refers
to the capital consciousness, to the big
consciousness.
So therefore, is there any quality of
observed-hood in
OR and its zero so it takes a lower case d
and a lower case g.
It's just, it's just a way of writing.
>> Are you saying that since it is
infinite and has all possibilities.
It's free not to observe or to be an
object at
a given time, and that's one condition and
you're defining that.
>> Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That can be seen like that also.
So that as an observer, I am full of being
an observer, within myself.
And I am not to be seen as an object.
There is nothing but that reality, Okay,
so how finite experiences emerge in
consciousness.
The reality is that there is three-in-one
nature of consciousness, this
three-in-one nature of consciousness that
we're talking about is a concept.
Okay?
But this perfect symmetry of the
singularity
of consciousness is broken by this
concept.
The concept that there are three is a
concept, it's not real [LAUGH],
it's a concept because there's no other
way
it's consciousness and therefore we say
there are three.
So this concept, even though being a
concept, it
breaks the symmetry of the singularity
into three values.
And the reality is that consciousness
cannot exist without the three.
Yet the three creates a split within
consciousness into three values.
Because it is consciousness again.
Okay?
Now we're going to analyze the situation,
which is very
interesting, as we start to go into the
final analysis.
Of what consciousness really is, and how
the dynamics emerge.
And that is, we're going to look at how OR
goes from infinite to zero, how that is
possible.
Okay, as we saw earlier, OR is infinite,
therefore, these are zero.
OD is infinite, therefore these are, other
things are zero, that's
a critical point, when OR which by its
nature
observes, observes OD, which is itself
anyway, it sees an infinite OD, okay?
You follow me?
But that infinite OD is a feature whose OR
is zero.
You're following me?
We just said that if it's an infinite OD.
It is, actually it's the OR within it is
zero.
Okay?
So, the OR, the big OR here says I am
infinite OR.
I look at myself as an object, but as an
object.
What is the object observes, nothing.
The object has zero observer ability.
When you look at the stone, you see how
much is
the stone is looking at me, zero as far as
I'm concerned.
Okay from a gross perspective.
So the object has zero observer ability.
That actually creates a shock in the
observer quality.
A shock in a sense.
It's the observer has suddenly realized it
is infinite, but it can also be zero.
There is a situation.
In which the observer quality or factor is
zero, correct?
All this is on the level of concept.
This is the Big Bang.
This is how the Big Bang happens.
The infinite observer,
looks at itself and sees that it is
possible for its own self to be zero.
So the entire infinity of observerhood
collapses to zero.
There is a huge compression.
That compression, that infinity collapsing
to a point
explodes in all possibilities back from
zero to infinity.
That's the Big Bang.
Any questions?
It's obvious.
[LAUGH].
[APPLAUSE].
So why the Big Bang happens?
They say at beginning of the Big Bang,
energy was infinite.
Its temperature was huge and there was a
huge expansion, that's the thing.
The reason is, when you, when you compress
a
gas, for example, what happens it heats
up, hm.
Temperature goes very high.
These are concepts, you know, we'll get to
why we
have these concepts, they are part of the
same thing.
When you're compressing and filling the
tire of your bicycle, you are repeating
the process of how the Big Bang happened
by creating heat and temperature.
[LAUGH] In a way of course don't take it
literally.
So when the infinite observer collapses
itself
into a point so what is happening,
infinity is now in a point.
I am an infinite observer, but I see that
I could be zero observer, like here.
Because I am an object also.
Being an object, I am zero observer.
Therefore there is the potential for me to
be zero.
That is the compression of infinity into a
point.
The compression of infinity to a point
leads to an explosion.
An explosion of what?
An explosions of patterns
of qualities and bits and pieces of
relationships between zero and infinity.
All possibilities emerge.
So what you get from this initial pattern
of three values collapsing into one point
and exploding.
It explodes between zero and infinity, in
all kinds of possibilities.
It dwells to move back to infinity.
So, we'll come back to that.
Let's see what happens then, you know, we
say we have the Big Bang.
The theory I am presenting to you is that
we don't have only one universe.
We have an infinite number of universes.
And in these infinite numbers of universes
are all
the possible combinations of anything
between zero and infinity.
Any kind of possible observerhood,
observinghood.
And observed hood are possible.
Anything, absolutely anything you can ever
imagine in
any shape in any form in any pattern.
And they emerge everywhere in
consciousness.
Nothing emerges, because actually,
consciousness is just a play within it.
It's just a simple play within
consciousness.
It's ripples within its own reality.
But since it is consciousness, it could
have been
infinite consciousness at the beginning,
it became zero consciousness.
But now, let's say, for the sake of
example,
plus one consciousness, plus two
consciousness, plus three consciousness.
These are bits of consciousness.
You can say, the stone is a bit of
consciousness.
We will come to how we can, we can see
that.
But, we're saying this had exploded within
itself.
And to all of these different patterns,
from zero to infinity.
One of these patterns, one of these
patterns has
the ability to define Og here, this is our
universe.
In our universe, one of these patterns
decides
that we'll have the speed of light equals
to whatever we know, c, Planck's constant
is
h, and the Newton's gravitational constant
is G.
So that's our Universe.
In our Universe, these are all the values
that define Og in our Universe.
How many Og's are possible, an infinite
number of them, an infinite number of
universes.
Which makes it that in some universe, you
will
only live for one split second and you
will vanish.
In another universe, you could be
immortal.
In this universe of ours, we live whatever
our condition is because we have those
constants.
This is a big question about physicists
and scientists and all of that.
They always say, if the universe, our
universe, had even the slightest
change in c, or the slightest change in
Planck's constant, we would not exist.
The galaxies would not form.
The planets would not form.
We would absolutely collapse.
Okay fine, there are universes where this
happens [LAUGH].
There are plenty of possible universes in
which actually this happens.
Why because this explosion from point to
infinity has all possibilities.
We are just one possibility and that one
possibility happens to be this one in
which we
have a history of fourteen billion years
and
we tell our story about this whole thing
[LAUGH].
>> So before the Big Bang, since the only
thing that existed was
consciousness, that means that the thing
that triggered that explosion.
And and the contraction into a point of
similarity is itself.
>> Itself, and its nothing came out,
nothing came out except patterns within
itself.
Patterns within itself, It was one and
then it is three.
It is three and now it is multiple.
It's the same thing.
What are these bits?
They are all bits of consciousness,
nothing else.
What we are, this is the conclusion, what
we are made of is patterns of
consciousness
that's the answer.
What we're looking for as what is the
stuff of life is just ripples of
consciousness, patterns of consciousness
now because it's patterns
of consciousness, when you are trapped in
that
pattern you can see things as a tree, a
hole, a house, a story, and our
lives, and our history in the universe,
these are just our condition in life and
our Og's that define how we are going to
experience these patterns.
We are stuck in these patterns.
We are not you know we can evolve and
there is
a system where one can evolve and reach
higher states of consciousness.
And actually discover the reality to be
infinite and
unbounded and find the solution to this
and that
is what all the sages have been saying
about
this and we'll come to this if we have
time.
But so I'll move on.
So that is the reality.
So, we said there are all possibility
universes.
In which all possible relationships of
these three factors exists and
that this creates an infinite number of
patterns of consciousness.
And that, all that there is.
All that there is is patterns of
consciousness.
There is nothing but patterns of
consciousness.
So, the material and physical world are
just patterns of consciousness,having all
possible observedhood, observinghood, and
all possible observerhoods.
Now what is energy?
That is really as we said, because now we
have to start
examining the things that we say are real,
that emerge from this.
So we said that when all O R goes
from infinity to zero, a huge compression
occurs and
this is seen in the very high as the
very high energy or temperature after the
big bang.
Now what is space?
The expansion of the universe in the Big
Bang is the expansion of observerhood.
In all possible values now from O R being
zero, back to O R
being infinite, because it has come to
zero, and finding that
it's zero, it was compressed and exploded
and on the way back to infinity,
it's going to meet all the intermediate
values within that expansion.
And therefore space is what is really this
expansion back towards infinity.
So the universe it cools down as O R moves
back towards infinity after the big bang.
What is time?
Time is an illusion in fact.
Because all of this what happened that
we said happens, is actually happening
simultaneously.
It all happens within the nature of
consciousness.
It's not that, now consciousness sits
there and thinks, I
am one and I am actually three and if I
am an observer I am infinite but I am also
zero, therefore I'm going to compress
myself and become so many.
This is, all inherent within the nature of
consciousness, that it has a dynamic
within itself, that is of infinite
possible patterns.
All kinds of possible patterns.
So, now either the good news or the bad
news.
[LAUGH] How we experience time
sequentially.
It's just we are trapped in a universe
which has a certain pattern of
consciousness and that pattern of
consciousness allows
you to observe things in a sequential
form.
It allows you to observe
this and then this, and then this, and
then this.
So when you say time is passing, my life
is going from here to here, to here.
It is just the process of transformation
of the waves and patterns
of consciousness that is allowing you to
see one thing after the other.
So in reality, it's like you take a person
who has a computer and never seen a
computer before and this computer has
infinite number
of, things that already stored on the hard
disc.
Everything is already there
simultaneously.
But the person has only that capacity to
punch certain
numbers of things on the, on the keyboard
and the algorithms within the
programs of the computer create a history
for him or for her.
And then they start seeing images, one
after the
other and they think it's happening at a
sequence.
It's like you're watching a movie on a DVD
and
you think that these images are happening
one a sequence.
But it's all actually simultaneously
present on the DVD.
In the same way, every possible pattern is
present in the computer or in the
universe.
And the illusion of time is just because
our own
pattern of consciousness which constitutes
what we are, our little bit
of consciousness, that we as individuals
are, allows us to go
through the film or through the story in
such a sequence.
So we say it's a sequential thing.
Sequential, sequential.
Because it's actually sequential and time
passes.
But it's all relative.That's how we can
explain so many problems in
actually physics and time and dilation of
time and all of these things.
Okay, you're still with me?
Okay, so, then perception of time depends
on what?
Depends on the observer.
Depends on the observing and what is being
observed
and that is really the story of why we see
things in sequence, whereas everything is
actually simultaneously present in
this one field on consciousness, and that
is nothing else.
So now the question is do these patterns
exist.
Can we say they are real?
Yes they exist, yes they are real.
Which means we are not saying we're living
in illusion.
That's very important because it's not
like the theory that
everything is illusion, and this is not
real, and this is.
It's every [UNKNOWN] anything.
It's a pattern within consciousness.
Consciousness is real, and its patterns
are real, and this table is real
and I am real and you are real and the
lecture is happening.
Don't worry about that [LAUGH] and you'll
get credit for the course.
But it's, but it's all patterns of
consciousness.
That's what it is.
That's simply.
So we are negate, not, we are not negating
the existence and the reality of anything.
Everything exists, in a relative term,
everything is
real, but what is it, in absolute terms?
It's just pattern of consciousness its
consciousness as a whole.
Yes.
>> [INAUDIBLE].
Which our universe is one of them.
What governs us to be that one?
What is the mechanism that [CROSSTALK]?
>> We just happen to be trapped in that
one.
>> No, I understand, of all the infinite
ones,
what makes our universe the way that that
pattern is?
Is that all random, or there is a.
>> This is where you can come.
There is a random, we can say chaos, that
creates all possibility.
It's not random because it's sequential
you know, it starts with one, it goes
to three and then there is the explosion
and there are all these possibilities.
It's all orderly but all possibilities are
there.
Now what happens in our own universe is
that one of the possibilities is such that
blank.
You know the blank constant age has a
certain value.
This has certain value and that creates
this kind of universe
and this kind of universe it create this
kind of evolution.
It gained this kind of people, it gained
this kind of patterns.
And that's what it is.
Now there will other universes where the
planets will not form.
And it will split and destroy in a second.
That's another pattern.
There will be another universe where you
know, there might
be people who are living all 1,000 years
or living immortally.
You know, that is possibilities within the
pattern.
>> I guess my question was.
>> Why we are trapped, what is our karma?
>> [INAUDIBLE].
You're saying it's all probability.
We, we happen to be one of the inset
probabilities that.
>> Correct.
>> Allows all these different constants to
be
there in coherence as such that you have
insurance.
Correct?
>> Correct.
>> All right.
So it's our probability [INAUDIBLE].
Pattern or causes per say.
>> Right.
>> The keys to get us in here, per say.
It's all random.
>> On the overall, is kind of random.
But once you get there-
>> Yes.
>> You have order.
>> Right.
>> You have laws of nature.
>> Sure.
>> You are responsible.
>> Yes.
>> There is, you know, responsibility.
There is social responsibility, human
responsibility, moral responsibility.
Because you are living within this
observing hood definition and
within this observing hood that's the name
of the game.
[CROSSTALK] Can I move more because there
is a lot to cover.
>> So is it a cross observation to other
universe?
>> We will come to this I think when we
finish it will be more clear.
So who has consciousness then?
Who has consciousness?
We ask this question.
We would say everything has consciousness.
In fact this is not the answer I am
looking for.
No one has consciousness.
No one has consciousness.
>> [INAUDIBLE].
>> [LAUGH] Everyone is consciousness.
If you have it, it's like your
observerhood.
It's what you're talking about.
You have observerhood quality, but
consciousness is the three, together.
So, that is the problem of being and
having.
To have is observerhood.
To be is consciousness.
We are consciousness.
That brings us to the problems in science
and philosophy about ontology, which is
what exists?
What is real?
What is being?
What is becoming?
We've all answered them this afternoon.
Isn't that fantastic?
They have been having, discussing this for
thousands of year.
And Epistemology.
What can we know?
What is the truth?
What is belief?
What's justification?
That's epistemology.
We've answered all of these.
Rational or empirical?
Now, how can we verify that, this logic
about
consciousness that we are talking about
makes any sense?
First, we are saying we are using logic,
rational,
that it actually holds ground in terms of
rationality.
We can make sense.
We can make logic Of course our axiom, our
beginning point is an assumption.
That's all mathematics is like that.
There is no mathematics that starts
without an axiom.
The axiom is a non proven theorem.
Non proven theory.
You cannot even prove it.
By definition, you cannot prove it.
But it works, and the fact that it
works and creates theorems and makes the
universe work.
It is applied in Physics, it's applied in
the universe.
It gives us solutions about the movement
of the planets, and
the light, and the speed of things, and
how we are.
We say fine, this axiom is real.
But nobody's able to prove this.
It's an axiom.
Though we can have to in science we don't
feel
satisfied just because there are
reasonably make sense based on axiom.
We try to study empirically which means
make an
analysis and see if there anything like
this that looks
like it has patterns in it and we can
say OK what are the patterns that we know
about?
That is our physical body as one kind of
pattern.
Material physical boundaries.
The earth, we can study the earth.
We can study our physiology.
We can study the nervous system.
There are structures and these have
patterns, patterns of structure.
Now, usually we don't study the patterns
of
the non-material thing because these are
abstract things.
But in order to come to this conclusion it
was not just defense if we sort.
I'm going to Stanford it would be nice to
tell them something amusing.
It's something that comes from a very
profound research
and [COUGH] study, and mentoring with
teacher [UNKNOWN] who has.
Gave me this ancient knowledge of the
Veda,
and it's been 20 years of studying to
this.
Now I reverse the story by starting like
this but the, the issue was,
okay we have matter, it has patterns, we
have consciousness, it has also patterns.
But these patterns of consciousness have
not been
much studied you know at MIT there was
a professor which you know Chomsky who you
know looked at grammar and logic and all
of that and tried to look for patterns in
our way of speaking in
our grammar and what we speak when we are
young when we do this when we do that.
What we have done is look at the patterns
of human thought.
Is there a pattern in human consciousness?
How can you find these patterns in human
consciousness?
So what we do is go to the study of the
matter pattern of thought, so.
There are patterns in the physical
universe.
[COUGH] There are patterns of human
thought.
It will become more clear as we proceed,
this pattern of human thought.
So, physical universe, we have seen the
unified field.
It all comes, everything comes from the
unified field.
And all of these physical aspects are
patterns of the unified field.
There is a technology of consciousness
transcendental meditation
which brings us to this unified field.
What are the patterns of human thought?
Music for example, art.
These are patterns of human thought.
Music is harmony, melody and repetition of
sound.
This repetition of sound in a certain
organized way, where does it come from?
It comes from the consciousness of the
musician and the musician puts this melody
and
rhythm and patterns and these patterns
reverberate
with our body they make us feel better
they make us feel good they make us sad
they make us happy these patterns
of consciousness actually why because the
musician
discovers this in his mind and his
thinking.
And then creates the music and it
influences us.
So human thought, mind, intellect, these
are also having patterns.
We discuss this in physics.
Now I move the other set.
Science, actually, today is trying to
understand all areas of life.
Not only physics, chemistry, biology, but
also psychology, sociology, art, beauty,
morality, spirituality.
Why is sciences able to study these?
It's because there are laws of nature that
determine not
only how physical world works, but also
the psychology, the sociology.
So what are patterns?
Patterns are actually structure.
You can look at structure and you can look
at function.
What do these patterns do?
And one of the.
Aspects of patterns that I have looked at,
guided by [FOREIGN] is Veda.
Why Veda?
Why we choose Veda as an ancient term, in
Sanskrit it means knowledge,
and so, in English it's knowledge, in
French it's connaissance, et cetera.
But it's just a word that means knowledge.
Now, why Veda and Vedic literature?
Why studying Veda?
It's really what I look at as the pattern
of this knowledge, of this literature.
Why the literature?
Literature is a product of human mind.
You could have, I could have studied maybe
some music or something.
Decided to go to Veda because Veda is the
most ancient
knowledge between quotation mark that is
available to us,
and that knowledge pretends
to be all that there is, that it has all
the rules of law
and the rules of patterns of, of
consciousness and
presentation of consciousness.
Now, since it has been looked at in the
past
in terms mostly of its meaning, people
have translated it and
tried to study what it means, it has
become like a
philosophy, then it become like a
religion, and all of that.
And, I have looked at this, because in
Veda, it also
describes the same logic in a way that we
have been going through.
That everything is consciousness, and as
is the atom, so is the universe.
As is the body so is the cosmic
body which means these are the patterns of
consciousness.
This is Marci who introduced me to this
knowledge of Veda
and guided this research that I will be
talking to you about.
It comes from a tradition of Vedic
teachers and he
had taken the Veda and organized it into
40 aspects.
You hear about yoga and all of that, it's
very common,
it's one of the 40 aspects of Veda in the
Vedic literature.
Now, what has been done is not look
at these from the perspective of their
meaning.
We don't try to kind of translate them and
understand what is there.
We looked at them, as patterns of
consciousness, which
means what is their physical structure,
actual physical structure.
So, this is the tradition, and, what the
Veda says is something that
we are being talking about in a sense, is
being a knowledge that has been there for.
All time that all this is totality.
That you are that, that I am totality and you find them all
different belief systems and inspirations
they say the same thing.
The nature of heaven belongs to man
and the
Bible would say God created man in his own
image.
In the New Testament, the kingdom of
heaven is within you, and
the Quran that they are within all the
laws of nature, do you
not perceive them and in the Islamic
tradition that you considered yourself
to be a small atom yet the whole universe
is folded within you.
So, Marci took all of these 40 aspects of
Veda and
gave them each a function, and he told me
that this
must be available in your own human
physiology because we are that
and these patterns are in the Veda are
patterns of consciousness.
So to make a long story short I took every
one of these aspects.
Every one of these 40, and did not
look at them from the perspective of their
meaning.
Just from the perspective of their
structure.
So, the yoga, for example is a book.
This book of yoga has four chapters, and
each chapter has a number of the sub
division.
The function of this book of yoga is
similar to a function of unifying value
in the brain and the fibers that connect
different parts of the brain, the
association fibers.
So I looked at the structure of the book
and then looked at
the structure of the human brain, and
found that they are exactly the same.
So that every lobe of the brain which has
four
parts corresponded to actually one of the
chapters of yoga.
Not only as four and four but if you look
at
this I'm writing here chapter one, this is
the occipital lobe.
This is not chapter one of the brain.
It's chapter one of yoga, and chapter
three of yoga.
But they are there and their contents and
their
subdivisions corresponds to the divisions
and subdivisions of the brain.
Therefore, these patterns of thought which
are available in yoga
are the same patterns as the physical
body, our own physical
body, and, when you go and great detail
you find that the functions are the same.
What you see written here, on these
different parts of the brain,a re the
sutras of yoga, and they correspond to the
different functions that are in the brain.
Now in the similar way, I look at all the
40
aspects of Vedan and Vedic literature and
find exactly the same correspondence.
For example there is a book called Nyaya,
and Nyaya
is means the lamp at the door,
distinguishing and deciding.
It has exactly the same function as the
thalamus inside our brain,
what is amazing is that it also has the same
structure as this book, so
the book Nyaya has five chapters the
thalamus has five divisions.
The book of Nyaya, the same book, has 16
topics,
16 subdivisions that define the entire
book, and the
thalamus has exactly 16 divisions that
correspond
one to one to these 16 values that are
inside the book.
So, here we see that our thalamus inside
our brain, looks exactly, like that book
of
Nyaya, which is an expression of patterns
of
consciousness, that has been expressed, in
an innocent way.
Now, sometimes when you read these books
of the Veda, you
don't understand anything, and people
wonder what is their value, and that's
why Merci has said that their value is not
in the meaning that is translated
but in their patterns of structure and
function.
These ideas are a few examples but it's
true for all the different aspects
in Veda and Vedic literature, in a very
detailed way you can find actually, like
in the Rig Veda, one of the books, you can
find every single nerve and
its function to be a reflection of that
book, which is called the Rig Veda.
Now what is very interesting is that here
you can see that our brain has what we
call the basal ganglia inside it and this
basal
ganglia corresponds to our planet and our
solar system.
That is in term of what is called as
eastern astrology or indian astrology,
which is called Jyotish.
This means you know this hypothalamus
correspond to the moon and when you look
at hypothalamus to the sun and this
to that everyone has an individual
correspondent.
So our patterns of thinking correspond to
the patterns
that we have in our actual universe and
our
actual solar system and when you look at
this
astrology which is Jyotish and, and Indian
astrology, Vedic astrology.
The assignment of the functions of the
planets, is a reflection of what
modern science has found to be the
assignments of these structures in our
brain.
So either we are following the planets or
we have projected our consciousness and
our understanding to the planets even
without
knowing what is inside the brain but
naturally.
Our pattern of thought has been deflected
in the pattern of
our, life and our cosmos, and what the
cosmos is about.
I took another book of the Vedic
literature that I might,
not, and this time I looked at the stories
that are
happening within it, and you find that the
stories are an
exact reflection of the dynamics that are
happening inside the brain.
For example if the king has ministers,
then they correspond
to the descending and ascending tracks of
the nervous system.
He has spies and informants, they happen
to correspond exactly to the, sensory
system.
You can have, you know a king, gurama
here, and
he has an arrow and a bow and, and when
you
see how it is described it looks like the
vertebral
column and how the nerves send the inputs
back and forth.
So like this you can find, for example,
these are deities and they could respond
to structures in the physiology in quite
some
detail and this means that all of these
values that are found in literature and
found
in, in concepts or human concepts are
actually
a human reflection of the physical
structure of
our body and our body is a reflection
of this consciousness value that is found
in the Vedic literature.
Like that in great detail and I'm giving
just small examples
of all of these values within our body
where you can see in the nervous
system every person that has been
described in the stories and this
values in terms of their structure, and as
well and in terms of their function.
So there are two books that has been
written on this.
This one book about Veda and physiology,
and
this is another book about Ramayan and
human physiology.
So the conclusion is that the patterns of
consciousness are the ultimate
reality that intelligence is actually the
basis, the consciousness is
the basis of matter, and consciousness is
all that there is,
and it's all of its patterns that we are
living and experiencing.
That's what creates the laws of nature.
That's what creates our physical body.
That's what creates our history and
experience, and all
of this is real but the constituent is
consciousness.
Now what is beautiful is there is a
technology to develop
consciousness, and that is, you know, all
the meditation, transcendental mediation
is what we've studied, was more than 700
research studies that
showed that when you act on consciousness
you develop the whole physiology.
And that is a very important findings
because from the
level of awareness you can see
transformation in the body.
You see better immune system response.
You see removal of diseases.
You see better behavior.
You see changes in society also.
So that by itself is also a scientific
demonstration,
of how, from consciousness, a simple
technique, you said
you close the eyes and you transcend, you
create
all transformation in the individual
physiology and in society.
This is an additional demonstration of
the relationship between patterns of
consciousness being
at the basis of what we call matter, and
matter is nothing but consciousness.
So we know all about consciousness now.
Thank you, the time has passed which we
took some questions in the meantime.
However if there are more questions and
people are.
>> Yeah, we still have a bit of time, so.
>> Okay.
[INAUDIBLE] beyond the [INAUDIBLE] how,
[INAUDIBLE].
>> [COUGH]
The idea brings us back to the unified
field in fact and consciousness.
See if your awareness is established on
that
level it's, it's on the previous set of
slides,
we have to go back.
So, you remember the unified fields chart,
which
said that everything come from the unified
field?
The assumption is that when you actually
transcend.
Which means go beyond the relative in your
consciousness as an individual.
[COUGH] The mechanisms that are within our
brain, because we contain the total
natural law
allow us to go to the deeper levels,
and actually go back to that original
consciousness.
So, the mind, the human mind, has the
ability to go to the unified field.
And if you go to the unified field,
you can experience within it, it's own
patterns.
So [COUGH] if you are well established in
that unified
field on the level of your own
consciousness, you can actually
what we call cognize these patterns, you
can see them, and
the way you express them are or draw them is
through sound.
So actually the Veda is nothing but
the experience of
the patterns, within consciousness and how
they evolve, expressed in sound.
>> You didn't get it?
Or you're not agreeing?
[COUGH].
>> First of all, how, if you're equating
that, that's, [UNKNOWN] mo this is 40
chapters iiii.
>> No this is 40 aspects, 40 aspects and
each
aspect has a number of chapters and
division and subdivisions.
Was Yoga only one aspect that I took, but
all the other 40 aspects is like Yoga,
[UNKNOWN] these
are different values of the Vedic
literature, and each
one corresponds to different parts of the brain, it's not
just one example.
It's a huge number of detail about the
body, and its structure available in the
Veda.
>> [INAUDIBLE].
>> How they discover that?
Why is that Veda, is that?
Why So the assumption or the theory or the
belief is that Veda is actually describing
the patterns of consciousness that create
the human physiology and the universe.
How do you get there to know that, that, I
mean how,
how Veda got to be known, is like there
are these individuals
who, went deep inside of themselves and
went into the unified,
see you can bring unified, and went into
the unified field, so they transcended.
And by transcending, they experience the
vibrations within consciousness
and these vibrations and patterns within
consciousness are the
laws of nature that we experience and
that's why
they are similar to the human physiology
you see?
>> [NOISE].
>> It's identical [COUGH].
I mean [LAUGH].
You see when we say a musician, like
Mozart, goes
within himself and feels the melody and
music comes out.
Where did he get to feel that melody.
Why does that melody have such an universal
appeal.
Why is it that after generations and all
across
cultures, people like it and feel great
about it.
It's because it vibrates within something
very deep within us.
There is a harmony, that is universal.
These are, patterns of consciousness.
We can call them patterns of consciousness,
that corresponds to
the patterns of our body, and therefore,
there is resonance.
There is harmonics and that is why we feel
something about it.
It makes us feel this way or that way.
Now, where did Mozart get his music from?
From his consciousness.
He went and, and he felt this harmony.
What we're saying is that if you go even
deeper than Mozart,.
And deeper than Einstein on the logical
level.
You actually experience those patterns.
But the more basic patterns.
And then the assumption is that Veda, is
just those patterns and
that's how they reflect themselves in the
cosmos and in in our body.
Okay?
But this is [INAUDIBLE] easy problem and
the hard problem [INAUDIBLE].
>> Yes, that's the hard problem.
[CROSSTALK] You're talking about the hard
problem.
>> [INAUDIBLE] belong to the hard, to the
easy problem, but to the other [INAUDIBLE]
>> Yeah, the easy problem is, how to, how
the brain works,
to create, like, the ability to see red,
or to see blue.
But not how to experience it.
The hard problem is where is consciousness
coming
from that makes me experience this, this
way.
So the answer to the hard problem is that
consciousness is all that
there is, consciousness is everything and
everything else are patterns off this
consciousness.
Now, in support of this we look at the
patterns.
What patterns physically is our body.
Mentally is the products of the mental
process,
or the experience, and that is literature,
you know?
And in such case, it's the Veda okay?
>> Talking about these non-physical
patterns.
For example, one, subjective experiences,
so obviously is the grand spectrum of
our mental activities or emotions
[INAUDIBLE]
characterization and judgement for
doctors, so can
you elaborate on these patterns I assume
the precedent correlation you have
in the Veda knowledge there is something
more productive for our existence and
there are some that are not.
>> Yeah.
>> In common, then what happens?
Do we have like all sort of different mind
patterns and some of them are more
productive
for us to become more in harmony with
others you see what I'm trying to
[UNKNOWN]?
[CROSSTALK].
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah [UNKNOWN].
Yeah absolutely, because we are in a
certain universe and in
this universe I took some examples but
there are laws of nature.
So we happen to fall in this universe in
which there are certain laws of nature.
You can have the ability to, try to change
the patterns
and act what we would say against those
laws of nature.
So that is not evolutionary, that is not
helpful that creates pain.
That is strain cause you are within a
certain context to
act within this universe you have to
follow the laws of nature.
So the laws of nature of this universe, are
what makes
it, good to do this way, bad to do the
other way.
That is where also morality can come from.
Where is action in tune where natural law
comes from.
It's because you are aligned with these
laws within your universe.
[INAUDIBLE]
the [INAUDIBLE]
formed by or so from the universal
conscience and the [INAUDIBLE] there is a
[INAUDIBLE]
so by talking like that I think
there's an implication that there's a
sequence happening.
Right?
But sequence like, like, like you
mentioned earlier is also
a product of that pattern so that's where I
get lost.
>> Yeah the thing is that when we say
sequence is
a sequence in our logic, in our analysis
there is a sequence.
But in reality, it's all simultaneous.
See when you say consciousness is one, but
it has three values.
Why it has three values, because there
must be an observer, observed process of
observation.
And then if you analyze this infinity
going to a
point, then it means that it has this and
that.
All of these are simultaneous, it's not
time bound.
It's all there, and it's all ripples
within that consciousness.
So in the simplest form of saying there is
consciousness we say it has three values.
But in the mo, more complete form it has
infinite values.
That's the reality of it, of that
spontaneous and simultaneous.
You know?
It's like, without the three values you
don't have consciousness,
but without the infinite values you don't
have consciousness ultimately.
And they are all coexistent.
[SOUND].
>> If we're stuck in these patterns of
nature in this universe, we have to
act in according to the laws of nature, if
we don't, then creates some strain.
>> Yeah.
>> But at the same time, the possibilities
are infinite,
>> Right.
>> For these patterns of consciousness.
So can't we just change the
patterns of consciousness within its,
within ourselves.
>> Yeah.
Who changes it, is it the big C or the
little c?
And if it's the big C, is that okay for
the
laws of nature, whereas if it's the little
c, it's not okay.
[CROSSTALK] That also goes to evolution
[CROSSTALK]
>> Yeah, it's like where you are, you know
where you are, what is your pattern
today, and what it allows you do to, and
what you choose to do with it.
And that is the evolution, the evolution.
I do this, I learn this, I do this, I
learn
this, I add more complexity to my pattern,
more ordinance to my
pattern, and therefore I widen my
consciousness, and I'm able to
see and act in accordance with more of the
laws of nature.
Ultimately, you get to what is called
enlightenment, and all of that.
What is enlightenment, is that your
pattern becomes
so complex and so big, that it's able
to actually get to the secret that
actually
it's all patterns after all, and you
transcend.
That's what transcending mean, you
transcend the limited
pattern which you feel is your small self,
into the infinite self of pure being, pure
existence, which is the big C that you
get.
And you realize that you ultimately are
the
big thing, only living within this little
pattern.
But knowing that, and being that, gives
you all
the power and energy and support from that
infinity and
more flexibility, wider perception, and
that's what we have
seen with people who practice these
techniques transcendental meditation.
because they actually go there, and they
experience pure existence, pure being, and
they come
up more fresh, more creative, more able to
act in accordance with the laws of nature.
>> And they're able to act as [INAUDIBLE].
>> In an evolutionary way?
>> In the future or in the infinity and
it's more of a matter of attention.
>> Yeah, exactly.
The thing is the bottom line, really, in
this
question is, it's not enough to know
things intellectually.
You have to actually believe me really,
deeply,
[LAUGH] and it's a very hard thing to do.
You know, it's like making the difference
between okay this sounds
fine, and actually knowing it, and
believing it, and living it,
which is the reality that gets you out of
the pattern
and the, the boundaries of the pattern,
it's a different thing.
So your pattern might say, okay, I can't
think of anything, but I am that thing.
And you stay that thing.
And you keep growing, you evolve, you
change, and all of that, okay?
You, I think we give chance to others.
There's the.
>> Yeah, two questions.
You mentioned earlier there's a set of constants
that you find in the specific universe.
There are a few theories that those
constants,
they're not constants, they're evolving and
slowly changing.
>> Yeah.
>> So, how do you explain that?
>> Then, then you know our universe is a
constance that change.
This is one of the possibilities.
We have saw that you know in classical
physics, this is how
it works motion of atoms, and motion of
particles, and motion of objects.
It's based on laws of motion by Newton,
and then we
discovered that there is quantum mechanics and
there is probability and uncertainty.
Now we have this constant.
But maybe we'd find that these constants have
also have been evolving.
So what is this?
It's part of the story that we are living.
In one universe, they might be fixed.
In our universe, they might be fixed, they
might be evolving.
It doesn't, it's really another option
within the options of this infinite
reality.
And of all possibilities.
>> If anybody needs to leave by the way
feel free.
>> Yes please.
>> Can you talk about the laws of nature?
I'm confused about that, you have the
three up there on the board.
When we talk about them coming, from the
Veda originally, right?
Which is sound, and then how can we know
them and what they are and are they?
>> Well, these laws of nature, like the
constants, we know them from physics, we
studied them.
But all the laws of nature that determine
all aspects
of our life and our universe are, are
infinite in number.
These are, you know, just examples of, of
constants
in our universe that determine how matter
reacts with matter.
How, what is the speed of light and all of
that?
And define how our universe evolves based
on these constants.
And why the galaxies were formed, why the
planets were formed, why life on earth
became possible.
Because of all of these things.
Otherwise, anyone of them would change a
little bit
and the whole configuration of our
universe would be different.
But these are one set in which we are
comfortably living in our own universe.
There are other sets, other possibilities.
>>You provided a chamber of some reference to
explain the state of consciousness
before the big
bang and how would that result in big bang
and, and then you're talking about
patterns of consciousness.
So is there a mathematical equation
that can,
that can explain the different patterns of
consciousness?
>> Yeah, I'm developing these mathematical
equations as we go along.
But [COUGH] it's you know, we have to
realize
the big bang is only our perception of a
history.
But the big bang is something that
happened within
consciousness also, there is nothing that
came out of it.
But, in our ability to perceive history in
our universe,
that is the history that we are able to
see.
So, okay?
>> I feel like if we are only one
possibility out of an infinite
number of possibilities, right, like, is
it even possible for
us to come up with what, what is before
the big bang theory?
Cause we have never experienced like we
are carbon, we are trapped in this
pattern.
So is this possible [LAUGH] this see what
I'm saying?
>> No we are trapped that we have we
have been like these patterns have become
like if
you want to say evolution has created
us
as human being to become more and more complex
patterns.
It's as if you're going from the infinite
observerhood,
collapsing to a point, and now exploding
from a point back to infinite.
So the patterns will reach a point where
they
become infinite again and that's what we
would call evolution.
You know, planet Earth was formed.
And then I mean you know the whole plasma
and whatever
then it collapsed and then there was the
inflation of space.
And then the collapse of the galaxies then
the stars and then the
cooling and then the planets and then the
dinosaurs [LAUGH].
And then now, we came and we are more and
more consciousness, more and more
consciousness, more and more
consciousness.
So we are actually moving back towards
this infinite observerhood ability.
That's evolution.
>> Somebody else has a question like
[INAUDIBLE].
>> So in the, in the realm of the mind
tapping to the very bottom of
consciousness but meditation essentially.
That's, that's the non-physical realm and
but in the physical realm,
with all these patterns for example, right
now our sol, our solar system
has been in harmony for whatever time, but
yet humans believe in
evolution, I had no choice in the genetics
that I came up with.
I could not go and tap all the way
back to consciousness and change that
pattern in the
physical genetics, inheritance, diseases,
obviously there's some that I
can influence with yoga and diet and so
forth.
So, where does that harmony and pattern,
or whatever you call it.
Is it again random? I'll go back to
my first question.
It seems like in this universe, as far as
physical stuff on
planets, there is a way to live off of
harmony, rather than destruction.
>> Yeah.
>> But as a human physical, forget about
the mind part that I can change a bit.
I'm stuck in a pattern that evolution of
this universe was created.
>> You can, from consciousness you can
change the pattern.
This is where, for example, a technique
that's transcendental meditation shows
that from, from actual mental technology,
you can change the body.
>> Genetic?
>> Yeah, absolutely,
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> Yeah, epigenetics has, is a new science
now that shows that.
You can actually transmit to your
children, and you
can modify the characteristics of your
genetics, by improving yourself.
This is a new science which in all twenty
years ago we thought it wasn't possible.
>> Epigenetics is a recommendation of the
genes we are already endowed with.
>> But yeah.
>> But you cannot change the amino acids
or my thoughts or..
>> But they can change the actual
expression of
the genes, and its transmission
to your siblings.
Now we didn't get into, you know what
happens to you,
what is your soul after this, what happens
to that pattern?
It's a long story.
There are other questions yeah?
>> Yes, if we take the knowledge that all
debating
stories occur within our physiology so my
question is if we.
To remind them, for example, and you,
you've proven that it occurs in our
physiology.
Is it happening on a societal level as
well, on a cosmic level?
Or are these stories likes the Gita
happening within us as well.
And societal, like it actually happened on
earth?
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> And it's happening on a cosmic level as
well?
>> Yeah.
Okay, my question is I guess, I guess
that's
the story in the past, what 5,000, 6,000
years?
Was there a different story because of the
way consciousness evolved and expanded?
Was there a different story maybe ten or
20,000 years ago, or in a different age?
>> It could be, But, you know, the one
story, let's say the Romana, has many
facets to it, and one can be living
one aspect in one history, and then
another aspect.
In another passage of time like that.
Okay, thank you very much.
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