CHARLES: CAME KARDASHIAN WEST
THE VISIT WILL BE THE REALITY
STAR'S SECOND SINCE SHE MET WITH
JARED KUSHNER WHO TOOK HER TO
THE OVAL OFFICE AND FORMALLY
ASKED HIM TO GRANT ALICE JOHNSON
CLEMENCY.
JOHNSON WAS RELEASED AFTER
SPENDING 22 YEARS IN PRISON IN A
LIFETIME SENTENCE.
WE SHOULD LET THE AUDIENCE KNOW
AT ONE POINT YOU WERE
BUT LIKE MANY PEOPLE IN FEDERAL
PRISON, I TURNED IT AROUND AND
HAD A SUCCESSFUL LIFE JUST LIKE
MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE EVENTUALLY
TOWARD THE NOTION OF PRISON
AND EVEN IN THE WORKPLACE WE ARE
SEEING MORE AND MORE EMPLOYERS
ARE WILLING TO GIVE THOSE FOLKS
DO YOU THINK WE COULD BE ON THE
CUSP OF SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT IN
THAT REGARD?
>> I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE HAS A
TWO-PRONGED APPROACH TO
REFORMING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM IT'S MOVING FORWARD WITH
LEGISLATION CURRENTLY SITTING IN
THE SENATE CALLED THE FIRST
SETBACK THAT HAS A MULTITUDE OF
AT THE SAME TIME THE WHITE HOUSE
WAS GETTING INFORMATION ON SOME
OF THE PROBLEMS, STRUCTURAL
PROBLEMS WITH THE EXECUTIVE
CLEMENCY PROCESS.
I'M HOPEFUL THE WHITE HOUSE WILL
MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE
EFFORTS AND WE'LL HAVE A MORE
FAIR AND EFFECTIVE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
CHARLES: TODAY THE MEETING WAS
WITH CHRIS YOUNG SERVING A LIFE
SENTENCE FOR COCAINE AND
MARIJUANA.
AND I FIND THAT INTERESTING.
HIS STOCK IS UP IT'S UP OVER 50%
IN LESS THAN A WEEK.
AND WE HAVE THIS KID WHO THIS
PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
FOR THE SAME THING.
BUT WHY AREN'T WE GETTING MORE
PEOPLE.
WHY ARE WE GETTING MORE PEOPLE
I WOULD BELIEVE IF SOMEONE LIKE
THAT WOULD GO AND TELL HIS STORY
AND OTHERS LIKE IT, IT COULD
HELP THIS PROCESS.
>> WELL, I THINK IN THE LAST
20-30 YEARS, THE AMERICAN
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS
GOTTEN SO BIG THAT IT IMPACTED A
LOT MORE PEOPLE.
YOU ARE SEEING MORE CELEBRITIES
AND PEOPLE WITH PLATFORMS COME
OUT AND SAY THIS IS NOT AT
HEALTHY SYSTEM.
THE UNITED STATES ALMOST LEADS
THE WORLD AT THE RATE IT
INCARCERATES ITS CITIZENS.
FIX OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.
CHARLES: I HAVE SEEN IT
FIRSTHAND, PEOPLE WHO COMMIT
VIOLENT CRIMES WHO SEEM TO GET
OUT OF PRISON FAIRLY QUICKLY.
AND PEOPLE LIKE CHRIS YOUNG, WHO
GO TO PRISON FOR LIFE.
SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME
UNIFORMITY.
I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
SHOULD BE FOR TOUGHER CRACKDOWNS
AND PROBABLY MORE LENIENT THAN
SOMEONE WHO HAD POSSESSION OF
