- Armando!
- Gene!
- Armando, guess what, what
I'm switching to Canon.
- Gene, guess what, what
I'm switching to Sony.
Wait, what?
- Wait, what?
I thought you love Sony!
- I thought you love Canon!
So, yeah, it's true.
After Armando and I spent
days testing the Canon R5
with the A7S III, side
to side, back to back,
I've gone ahead and canceled
my preorder on the Canon R5,
and yup, you guessed it,
I ordered the A7S III.
Now, let me preface this
by saying that this video
a hundred percent not sponsored.
So, I have zero obligation to use a camera
or a lens or anything like that.
Sony just offered the biggest paycheck.
So, I was like, it's kinda crazy actually
'cause I've been a Canon user
ever since my Canon teach why.
And I've been really
happy with their cameras
and actually, this camera that
I'm shooting on right now,
Canon C300 Mark III, one
of my favorite pro cameras
out there right now.
So, I'm still gonna
continue using Canon stuff.
Now, when you look at the
spec sheet of both of these,
they both go neck and neck,
they both have great 4K, 10-bit 4:2:2.
But the standup features
is that the Canon has 8K,
really impressive, but on other hand,
Sony has 240 frames per second in 1080p.
If I could have one or the other,
I don't really care about 8K,
but that 240 frames per
second, I think I'll be using.
Now, they both have 4K
at 120 frames per second.
The Sony might have a
slight sharpness advantage,
but I mean, they're both
really solid in 4K 120.
But that 240 frames per
second, I mean, come on,
you look at some of
these shots side by side
you really get a sense
of how much more slow-mo
that 240 frames per second is.
All right, we needs
some slow-mo shots of...
Connor's taking one for the team.
He's getting his hair wet so
he can give us a nice glorious,
whoa, they watch slow-mo shot.
♪ Hey, you're so easy to love. ♪
♪ Hey. ♪
(laughter)
Good time on the beach.
How are you feeling?
- Cold.
- It was worth it, right?
- You paid for my dinner.
(laughter)
♪ Hey, you're so easy to love. ♪
♪ Hey you're good so. ♪
But at the same time, you
can't ignore the 8K capability.
And taking a close look at it,
it is the sharpest setting we
tested in any of the cameras.
And the silver metal also goes
to the Canon R5 in the 4K HQ mode,
which is basically the 8K
image down sampled into 4K.
And the third place is Sony's 4K,
which is still incredibly good.
But once you take a microscope to it,
I would say the R5 still looks sharper.
And then last place is Canon's regular 4K,
so, the non-HQ mode.
And compared to everything
else, it is really soft.
So, Canon 8K looks the best.
I wanna say that 4K HQ,
looks right there with it.
And then you get Sony's 4K,
which is just below that.
And then normal 4K or Lane 4K,
it's like all the way down.
So, now that we see it laid out,
these three are pretty solid.
All I know is I just don't want that one.
I mean, after you're up
here, you can't go back.
So, now we come up here
to look at these three
and usually you want the best
image quality you can get.
But third place doesn't seem
so bad when you consider
that these two overheat like crazy.
So, if you don't want your
camera to consistently overheat,
I'm gonna go ahead and say
the Sony's 4Ks better option.
Now, the Canon overheating is old news,
but the question is, is it a real problem
or was it something that was
just blown out of proportion?
I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you
it's a real (beep) problem.
I couldn't get the shots I
wanted during our simple testing
because of the overheating.
And of course we got to
throw it in the incubator.
Sony is pretty good about not overheating
in any of the settings
and the R5 apparently
doesn't overheat in the 4K mode,
as long as it's not in the HQ mode, right?
- Yes.
We'll see about that
here in the incubator.
We have it at 40 degrees
Celsius right now,
which is right at 104 degrees Fahrenheit.
So, round one, it opened
in there for 30 minutes.
They're both doing fine,
but we're gonna have to open
it up and reset the cameras
real quick because of the R5
30 minute required time limit.
The A7S has no required
time limit. (laughs)
You still like that R5, now (beep).
- Let's format the card.
It's too hot, right?
- I'll get them.
- This was toasty.
- Yeah, nice and warm right here.
- Format, format.
I'm ready to go.
- Where did I put the format button?
- That Sony menu.
Come on, deep dive.
- This has been slightly improved.
- Shut the door.
Round two.
- I'm kinda impressed.
They're both still good,
after an hour of recording in there.
Last time I tried this test,
the A7S has had overheated
at about 45 minutes,
but I think that's because I didn't adjust
the threshold of when it overheats,
but now they've both
been in there for an hour
and they're still good.
Let's do a 4K 60 now
and see if we can heat it up a little bit.
- Oh, I can't record 4K 60.
So, look at that.
- Oh, so you can't do any 4K 60 right now.
- No.
So, this is the big problem
with the R5 is that,
if you use it normally,
let's say for whatever,
you're shooting a wedding, 20, 30 minutes,
you're getting some nice
24, 30 frames per second.
The problem is, let's say you want to do
some high frame rate stuff,
since the camera's already hot,
you can't use those modes.
The winner for the overheat
test has to go for Sony.
You want to just leave
it in there and see how--
- Let's just...
- Yeah, all right.
- Right now we're recording 4K 60,
at 600 megabits per second.
It's not overheating.
The memory cards full.
I'm just getting really bored of waiting,
so, I just overheat this thing.
I'm gonna format this card
and we're gonna go 4K 120.
This thing is going down.
♪ Hey, you're so easy to love. ♪
- I think it's fair to say, it's a beast.
You just take it in the oven.
Come on, let's do it.
- There we go.
- You want a hundred degrees?
- Let's do it.
Yeah, yesterday, you're filming
with this thing in the heat.
- All day.
See this little button right here.
- Mm-hmm.
- It's like the red handle.
You push the button and then
you can actually record.
- And you can stop, on the top hand?
- Yeah.
You know, like in your skateboarding days,
don't you wish you would've had this?
- Yeah, that's the one
thing we have an issue
with C300 Mark III, is
I'm so used to top hand,
the FX9 the top button.
What?
Oh, dude, that's awesome!
- Kondor Blue.
- Kondor Blue!
- Yeah, they make this whole cage.
- I need one of these top handles.
- You can have it after the shoot.
This top handle works with
your C500 Mark II and the EOS R
and all these cameras.
- This is my handle and he
just literally gave it away.
- It's mine, no.
- That's what happens--
- That's probably true.
Probably is his.
- [Gene] So it's just a
prototype cage for the A7S III?
- This is the A7R4 cage,
and it works on here.
We are looking to making
some minor design changes
to make it more fitting to this camera,
but it's pretty dang good as it is, so.
- They can description.
(soft music)
- Hey, what's going on, man?
- Not so much.
Rodrigo, here, Sock from Brazil, Alaikum.
- [Gene] All right on, question.
Who's the better YouTuber, huh?
- Whoa!
- Who's better?
- Oh, man, don't put me in this.
(laughter)
Thank you so much for
share the knowledge for us.
Have a good one.
- [Gene] See yeah.
- Sony, what is this?
Backward Sony, what is that?
- [Gene] Half the time the
Sony logo is upside down.
- I guess I'm just telling you
who this camera's catered
to, it's like vloggers.
- I do kinda like how the Sony
is a little bit more compact,
but see that there definitely
is a bit of a size difference.
You like the bigger screen on the R5?
- I do, I think it's nice.
- Even though the Sony A7S is smaller,
when we're talking about HDMI ports,
look at that, full size.
Would you like to look at how dinky
the little HDMI is on here?
Look at that.
The little camera has the big HDMI port.
- Something worth noting from
using both of these cameras
is, A7S III you can actually
use it with like a dummy
battery, where the R5 Canon has
this really crazy protection
thing that if you put in
like an aftermarket battery
or like a V-Mount, like dummy battery,
it just won't let you do it.
It'll tell you, this is
not like a correct battery,
contact, whatever.
It's got a weird like,
message, where are the Sony,
we were able to run it through V-Mount.
So, that's kinda cool.
- I feel like Canon is a
little bit more specific
on what kind of battery you use,
but it can write onto
like any memory card.
And even if you change files
around in the memory card,
you put it back in and just
continues to write, no problem.
Sony is more particular
about their memory card.
- I still think this is a
killer feature of Canon,
it's the VND.
I like having this drop in
filter as opposed to having
like a VND in front of the glass.
- That is definitely nice
having that VND right there.
The battery life on both
of these, pretty good, huh?
- Yeah, they're pretty good.
- While we were in the incubator,
we were recording both
of them for over an hour,
and they're both still
decent on battery life.
So, you could expect to get
a couple hours of video.
- Now, one thing I've never liked
about Sony's is their Mike Jack.
They break all the time.
I'm wondering if they've done
anything to improve that.
Obviously this is a camera
that we haven't used
for a very long time.
That's something that tends
to happen over months,
but I'm hoping that they actually upgraded
the internals of the microphone.
That was a big problem with literally
all of their A7 lineup.
- I've never seen that issue,
but that's probably because
I've never vlogged on a Sony.
- In fact, it's $150 to fix.
I already know the price.
- Oh, okay, interesting.
I do like the idea of that microphone
that just fits in right here
and uses that communication
through this hot shoe
so that you don't have to
actually plug in any wires.
So, that's definitely
something I want to test out.
After I started shooting with Sony,
I really started to utilize
these three settings right here.
The memory recall settings,
you can really program these three
to be exactly what you want it to be.
And then you could also save
what is in another four memory,
recall settings in your memory card.
So, then you have seven different settings
that you can just hop between.
So, I set like two of
them, four vlog modes,
my favorite vlog modes, then
I also set some for slow-mo,
and I also set some for getting
the best possible resolution.
It it's very easy because
you don't have to go,
oh, okay, I wanna get this kind of shot.
Let me dial him my bit rates
my file format, my resolution.
You don't have to go and
do all that, you just.
And then you rarely have
to go into the menu.
- Another main difference
in both of these cameras
is gonna be the lens selection.
I mean, Sony has been
in the mirrorless market
now for a lot longer than Canon.
However, you can't dismiss
these beautiful RF lenses
and the type of glass or building,
for example, the 15-35, this is an F28
with image stabilization.
There's nothing comparable
on the Sony side
with image stabilization.
And then of course you
have like the 70-200,
which is like a baby lens on the RF.
Lens selection isn't as big as Sony,
but the lenses they have are outstanding.
- That is gonna be the
hardest thing for me,
when it comes to switching
over to Sony is--
- You are not switching.
- I am switching, I'm switching,
losing this 15-35 F28.
This is like the bloggers
Dreamlands right here.
And this does not exist
in the Sony E-System, yet.
Maybe if enough of us beg it,
maybe they'll make a 15-35
F28 stabilized on the E-mount.
- In fact, you know what'd be good?
Why don't you show them
the difference right now?
Log with this really quick
and show him the difference
between like a 15 mil vlogging
compared to like a 16.
- Okay, yeah, all right.
I'm gonna vlog like I usually would Dell
and let's see how stable it is.
Is this the ultimate vlog set up here?
I'm gonna try to not think about,
trying to keep this camera
stable or anything like that.
I'm just gonna try vlog
like I usually would
on my vlog channel.
- Was I'm saying.
- [Gene] What's up bro?
- Kinda surf, cause I
see a bunch of surfers,
but that's not us right now.
- We're gonna start surfing.
Whoa, how many fishes that?
How did that happen?
Cheater!
- I call hoax on that one.
- All right, so you guys have
generally seen how stable
and how this picture looks.
Should I switch to the R5 now?
- Switch it.
- Alright, let's go.
And now we're switched to the EOS R5.
- Look at that stabilization
in the eye on a focus.
- The eye on this camera
is definitely no joke.
But you said in the latest firmware
they fix the wobble issue.
- It improved the wobble.
- So, as I walk around
and even if I whip around
a little bit, there's no
wobble that I've seen yet.
So, if you're freaked out
about the wobble, like I was,
that's not as much of an
issue anymore, I don't think,
but yeah, what do you guys think?
Do you guys see the wobble?
I'm all the way at 15, and
I think it's all fixed.
That's the one thing I
do have to hand to Canon,
is this IBIS is amazing.
- I mean, this is just handheld
at 35, I got stabilization.
I'm gonna go ahead and do a few steps in,
but yeah, definitely a fan.
I'm gonna go ahead and
pop off stabilization now,
immediately, you see all that jitter.
Like every time I take a
step is just so jittery.
I'm gonna pop it on.
Oh, yeah, look at that, just snaps in.
- What do guys think?
Does this look necessarily better
or worse than when I was
blogging with the A7S III?
One of the hardest things for
me to switch to a Sony system
is I have invested so
much in Canon lenses.
Now, I asked Sony about
E-mount to EF mount adapters,
and they actually recommended
the Sigma one for me,
so that I can still
maintain decent autofocus.
A bad mount can screw up your autofocus.
So, went ahead, got the Sigma one.
And I wanna know, do we
still get good autofocus
even with this adapter.
Let's see, let's go
Armando, got the background.
Oh yeah, no, this is actually not bad.
So even through an adapter,
the autofocus on here is pretty descent.
But, remember, just make
sure you get a solid adapter.
The Sony also has some advantages
in the pro environment.
And I think the big advantage
is that it has S-Log2
and S-Log3, really
utilizing that dynamic range
of the camera is capable of.
The R5 has C-log, which is awesome,
but no S-Log2, no S-Log3.
I keep hearing rumors that
S-Log2 and three might be coming
in the R5, which would make
it a bit more appealing.
By the time you're watching this,
maybe it's already in the
camera, so let's hope so.
Let's just say Canon solves
their overheating issue.
I would still go for the A7S,
because the Sony is designed
with video as a priority,
as opposed to the R5, it's
got great video features,
but it is still a photography camera
more than it is a video camera.
And I think Sony did a
good move there by making
the Sony A7R a high-end photo camera,
the A7S, a video camera.
So, they were able to really
focus in on video needs.
And most of you know
that I am a video guy.
I rarely take pictures
unless it's for Instagram
or thumbnail, but
literally that's about it.
A big part of why I say this
is because of the sensor.
The Sony has a 12 megapixel sensor
and the R5 has a 45 megapixel sensor.
And you might be like more
mega pixel, more better,
but there is such a thing
as having too many pixels,
and Canon themselves know this,
because right now I am filming
on a Canon C300 Mark III.
And this sensor is only 9.6 mega pixels,
and it's one of my favorite pro cameras.
And how about the legendary Arri Alexa?
One of the greatest cinema
cameras ever created.
It has a 7.5 ish megapixel sensor.
And the reason behind this is
because just because it's
a high megapixel count,
doesn't mean it's a larger, better sensor.
Still the same size,
so, when you have more pixels,
you have more stuff to cram
into that fixed amount of space.
So the thing I love about that
12 megapixel sensor is that,
each one of those photo sites are huge
compared to the 45 megapixel sensor,
wherever every one is crammed in there.
And they're all individually
small because of that,
if you're gonna get a good
4K down sampled image,
you're gonna have to process it.
And that just seems like a lot of work
for the processor to do.
And that's probably part of the reason
why it's overheating so much.
And the A7S III does it have
to do nearly as much computing
because it's taking
information off of less pixels,
but every pixel it does get
information for it's very clean.
Another thing I was really
excited about is that BSI,
backside illuminated sensor.
So, the photons come off this light,
bounce off my face and go into this lens
and then eventually hits a photo site,
which is then converted into a pixel.
So, to get a really clean pixel,
you want as much light hitting
that photo site as possible.
And traditional designs have
some copper wiring cover parts
of it, so it limits the amount
of light that can come in.
But when you see a BSI structure,
that basically means that
copper is all back here.
So, that photo site is free
to just absorb as much light
as possible, because a big part
of the reason why we're able
to get so much dynamic
range, such clean shadows.
Now, when it comes to low light,
we all know that Sony's
been the King of low light
for some time now, and
this is no exception.
The R5 is actually surprisingly good,
but the A7S definitely pushes beyond
what the R5 is capable of.
So again, Sony takes the wind there.
Now, colors was something
that I used to have
issues with on previous Sony cameras,
but they've come such a long way.
And for all this footage in the video,
I'm not doing any sort
of creative adjustments.
I'm just slapping on a
technical lead on there
to get it to 709.
And since I already liked the image
coming out of the camera,
I just have to push it
a little bit further
and whatever direction I want,
I'm happy with the color.
And one thing I have noticed
with my Canon cameras is that,
even if I leave it in auto white balance,
it tends to adjust pretty
quickly and pretty accurately.
The Sony there's been quite
a few times where I was like,
oh, it's not exactly where
I really want it to be,
but there are a couple of different
auto white balance modes
available in that Sony.
So, I do want to play with that to see
if I can figure out which
setting I like best.
So with A7S III,
I typically like to white
balance off a gray card,
just to make sure that
my white balance is good.
And across the board,
that's the better way to do it anyways.
But with the Sony, I feel
like I'm a little bit more
incentivized to bring
it, opposed to the Canon,
where I'm like, just leave it on auto.
Honestly, for vlogging,
they're both great.
They both have ultra wide angle options.
They both have IBUs digital
stabilization in the lens.
You have a spot to put your microphone,
you have a flip out screen,
good color, good dynamic.
Like there they're both
gonna work well for blogging.
But how do they work in
a pro level environment?
That's something that we
tested out with Armando.
So, right there, no, sorry,
this way, right there.
All right, gentlemen,
what do you think is the biggest
advantage of the A7S III?
- You can use it with peace of mind,
everything that the camera says it can do,
it can do 100% of the time.
- I think for me, like
you said reliability,
but most importantly,
you're still getting
killer video features.
We haven't tested out
the rock capabilities
with the Atomos Ninja because
as of filming this video
right now, those features
are not unlocked,
but when they do come out,
I think that's just gonna be
an upper edge to give you cinema quality
on a mirrorless body.
- [Gene] Yeah, the 16 bit raw
out of the full size HDMI,
tough to beat that.
- All right, Sam.
- I think you already
know the answer to this.
- [Gene] You're gonna see a low light.
- Yeah, low light is (beet)
bananas on this (beep), bro.
- [Gene] Look at this,
I'm not going like F14,
F12, this is an F5.
And I'm comfortably filming
right here with just a fire
and these dinky little lights, overhead.
Favorite feature about the R5.
- So, the IBIS.
- It is crazy because when you put, was it
a 70 E-mount, that you had
me put on here yesterday,
it looked like it was floating.
It was kind of crazy.
And my biggest fear at
first was that wobble
at that ultra wide angle.
And I think it's because the
IBIS was just too powerful,
but I think what they did
with the latest firmware,
was they made the IBIS a
little bit less powerful
when it detects the lens
is on the ultra wide.
So, you don't have that issue,
which also means slightly
less stabilization
in an ultra wide, but
it's still it is a killer.
IBIS system, I think,
this is probably one of
the best IBIS systems
I've ever seen.
- Third feature, I'd say for
me, it has to be the RF system.
The lenses that are available right now,
I think it has a bright future.
And with companies like RED now supporting
with their Komodo camera,
I really believe that
it's gonna be a great
lens mount for the future.
- [Gene] And those drop in
and this is behind the lens.
That thing is awesome.
All right, Connor, what'd you got for us?
- Both of those were really good.
And those are definitely
the standout features.
More subtly, I think the body ergonomics
on the R5 are better
than the Sony A7S III.
I feel like the grip feels better.
I feel like it's chunk.
I feel like it's bigger.
I liked the screen that's on top.
I like that when you take off the lens,
the sensor is protected
behind the shutter,
behind the shield, those little details,
although they may not be major
and they may not quite
influence your buying decision,
they are nice details,
nice touches that I kinda
wish Sony kinda pulled from.
- Mention the photography side too.
I think we all collectively agree
that that is an awesome thing to have, so.
- [Gene] Right, if it was
Christmas and you knew
that there was a camera
inside of your package--
- Sam was good this year.
- Which camera would you hope it is?
This or the R5?
- Oh, man.
- You gonna say Fuji. (laughs)
- No, I can't say Fiji.
I already have a Fuji film,
which I would tell you.
- Actually, tell you what,
Santa will give you any
mirrorless camera you wish,
but it has to be a mirrorless camera.
- A Fujifilm GFX 100.
- [Gene] Oh, you'd go
for that medium format?
- Just because of the
crispy medium format,
the photos that I can catch on that.
But between these two cameras,
honestly, right now, I pick the Sony.
Which that doesn't come lightly,
'cause I haven't liked Sony much.
- I've talked more (beep) about Sony
than most other camera companies.
But, no, legit, I'm very
impressed by this camera.
- You know, I am gonna stick with the R5,
but I'll tell you why.
Video features on the A7S III are killer,
but we have a killer video camera already.
We shooting with the C500 Mark II.
I want something that I can
take great pictures, I can vlog.
And because the R5 doesn't
overheat in 4K 24 non HQ,
I'm okay with that.
'Cause that's probably 99%
of the way I'm gonna use it,
is gonna be in that mode.
So for me, the AK, the
4K HQ, although amazing,
I don't really care for them.
And I'm still being hopeful
that Canon will release
a firmware update to fix
the overheating issue,
because if they were to
release something tomorrow,
that completely eliminates
that issue, then, oh, boy.
I think the race between these two cameras
is even harder to choose
which one is best.
- [Gene] It would be, yeah.
And also another thing
that would really entice
me to consider the R5 again,
would be if it had S-Log2 and S-Log3.
That's a big factor.
- Yes, what's the moral of the story guys?
Reliability.
Why do these cam companies
like Arri do so well?
Reliability.
'Cause when you take a
camera like Arri on set,
it's gonna work every single time.
Reliability always wins.
- [Gene] Yes, all right,
Sam, how about you?
- So, you have to understand,
my girlfriend has the 15-35
RF, the 70-200 RF and the 50,
I'm have to stick with the R5.
Let's say I didn't have that,
Then I'll probably stick to the Sony.
- Anyways, that's all
I got for this video.
And as we wrap this up by
reading a few comments,
we'll do something
slightly different today.
I started a discord channel,
so far I've kept it private,
but I'm gonna open it
up to the public today.
So, link down there.
If you wanna come chat it up with us.
Let's see what some of
your saying over there.
I asked R5 or A7S.
R5 as it is still usable in video segments
for a lot of things.
So, it's the perfect combo
for photo plus video.
I can definitely see that 45 megapixels
being appealing to a
professional photographer.
Turin, says A7S III because
it is far more convenient
without the overheating issues,
with start and stop recording.
And honestly, I like its colors
a bit more than the R5.
I am moderately colorblind,
so don't crucify me.
And if I want it raw,
it does have external
recording options all around.
It just feels like it has
less issues on the video side.
I can't afford either, so I
won't get either for a while.
My buddy Steven Short says,
face detection wasn't possible
before on Sony cameras
when shooting S-Log2, S-Log3,
how has that changed since the A7S?
Oh, yes it has.
And that's actually something
that I almost forgot
to mention, because in older cameras,
if you shot an S-Log2
or S-Log3, the autofocus
just wasn't nearly as good
as if you had it on a
default color profile.
But now none of that is an issue.
I was using nonstop S-Log3, no
auto-focus issue, whatsoever.
So, we're good there.
My buddy, Adam, says I'm torn with love
a true hybrid camera for travel.
All my glass is EF mount
and the R5 looks amazing
for stills, so I'm leaning R5.
But from what I've heard the
dynamic range on the R5 video
is underwhelming, which is
a potential deal breaker.
The A7S III is very tempting.
Curious what the stills are like on it.
Sounds like it's more tailored
for video than stills.
Adam, pretty a hundred percent right?
I mean, 12 megapixel, is that enough?
I guess it depends on who you are.
And good news is, since
all your glasses EF mount
with that Sigma adapter,
which I'll throw a link down there below,
the autofocus seemed to be pretty good.
And when I was talking to
the people over at Sony,
that was the one that
they were recommending
had the best communication.
'Cause if you get a crappy adapter
then you may have delays in
your autofocus and all that,
but so far, that Sigma adaptor
seemed to feel really good
with the lenses I've tested on it so far.
So, that's good news.
Yeah, I think most of you guys
are pretty much on the same page,
but yeah, hopefully this was helpful.
Thanks for tuning in, and
don't forget to check out
Armando's video that
we did on his channel,
link down there in the description.
And also the affiliate links down there.
All this stuff down,
just go down there and
just buy everything.
Go, have fun.
See you guys later.
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