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Dr. Chaps reports on these important issues.
Pro-life activists around the country
are spending time outside abortion clinics and praying,
there's a spiritual battle.
Well, Frank Panico caught them on film
and he's making a film, "Driving Out The Wicked."
Former Navy Chaplain
Gordon James Klingenschmitt
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Now he helps you by reporting the news,
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On this show, I like to do three things.
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and we pray the scriptures in Jesus name.
On today's show we have a filmmaker
who has made eight documentary films.
He is a Christian conservative pro-life movie maker
who has got this new project he's working on
called "Driving Out The Wicked."
Welcome via Skype, Frank Panico.
Frank, how are you today?
I'm fine, thank you.
So it's an honor to meet you.
Introduce yourself to our audience.
Yeah, my name is Frank Panico.
I've been a documentary filmmaker for at least 10 years.
All of my films are somewhat Christian based, I would say.
But not corny, and no I always have to make sure
that there's a message there.
I always ask myself if God would be happy
with the message I'm conveying
before I move forward with anything.
And obviously, a message to try and save the unborn
from being slaughtered,
kind of believe that God thinks that's a good message.
So I moved forward, and I film, direct, and write
all my material and just kinda handle it
and then after I get all the footage,
I get together with editor and ask God's help
and he blesses me in the process
and I'm doing really well, I'm very happy.
Well I'm detecting a New York accent,
I've read that you might be from Queens
and you actually ended up in Hollywood
for your professional film training.
Yes, yes I was born and raised in Queens, New York.
And then when I was 14, being the youngest of five,
I had to move with my parents to Florida.
And then at the age of 24, I moved out to Los Angeles
by myself and I stayed there like 15 years.
And right, I learned the art of screen writing
and got into acting a little bit
and modeling a little bit,
but I really fell into screen writing,
although I haven't sold anything,
which most screen writers haven't.
But my point is, when I moved back to Florida,
'cause my parents were getting older
and plus LA was kinda kicking my butt.
So God has a way of making you do what he wants you to do,
if you don't do it yourself,
so I felt like God was trying to tell me
get out of Los Angeles, go back to your parents,
live in Florida.
And of course, I didn't wanna go right away.
I'm like, "No, I'm not successful yet,
no I haven't done anything yet, I'm gonna."
You know, and it was just wrong you know?
And I had a feeling God wanted me to move back
and be with my elderly parents,
and I did and I thank God for that.
But my point is when I came back I'm like,
"Look, no one's buying my screen plays.
It's such a tough nut to crack, you know?
Why don't I just start, do my own film?"
And of course, feature films are so difficult,
there's so many people involved.
You have to have actors, they have to learn their lines,
and documentaries are basically
easier to put together, I believe.
So of course, my first one, "Lambs Among Wolves"
it was good, you know?
But like any artist,
you always look back at your first piece of work
and you're like, "Oh, that was kinda, you know?"
And so with each film I got better and better and better.
So now I'm brilliant, obviously.
Well we're gonna,
But yeah.
We're gonna show a clip of your newest brilliance,
"Driving Out The Wicked" and then we're gonna talk about it
but set up this movie clip you're about to show us.
Sure, it's probably one of the
most important messages of the film.
Towards the end, it says that the only way
to really kill abortion and annihilate abortion
is by bringing people over to Jesus Christ and the gospel.
And it's an inspirational piece,
it's at the end of the film
and I like to leave people on a happy note.
And it shows our President speaking at the pro-life rally
and key messages is that to really end abortion,
you gotta bring people over to Jesus.
He's the one that's gonna do it, you know?
God the father, son, holy spirit.
He's the one that's gonna do it.
I love it, let's roll the clip
of "Driving Out The Wicked."
What we've heard continuously from our Father
is that the gospel of Jesus Christ
will set the captives free.
It is the gospel of Jesus Christ,
we don't just fight issues, we bring a kingdom.
We shine the light.
Each of us individually have a choice to make.
Do we believe in the sanctity of human life
and protect life at the individual level.
I think it all starts with us,
each individual at the heart level.
I wanna let everyone know, be encouraged.
We're in the fight.
I've been at this for two decades.
We've been waiting for this moment for a very long time.
Women do not have to do this, they can be strong,
they can have their children and a career.
You don't have to pick.
You can have an education and a baby.
It's not one or another.
If this is what you want, then why not stand up with this?
The largest rally for the unborn
in the United States
took place today in the nation's capital
and for the first time ever,
the President of the United States attended the event,
as did tens of thousands of others fighting for the unborn.
Unborn children have never had a stronger defender
in the White House.
(cheering)
And as the Bible tells us,
each person is wonderfully made.
We know that every human soul is divine
and every human life, born and unborn,
is made in the holy image of almighty God.
(cheering)
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That every single human being, we can do nothing good
apart from God, apart from his strength,
we can do nothing good.
But Jesus Christ died on the cross,
that he can have his righteousness covering us,
that we can now be saved because what he has done.
We are sinners, we have done so many wrong things,
we are not good.
But since Jesus Christ died on the cross,
we repent of our sins and ask God for forgiveness,
and return from our sins, we can be forgiven,
we can be wiped clean, and God gives us a new heart
with new desires to love to do things
that are good and righteous
and hate the things that are evil.
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The gospel, we understand that
that's the only answer.
That people coming to the faith in Christ is the only way
we could ever see abortion ended.
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Welcome back, I'm joined by Frank Panico.
Frank, we're gonna take a short break
but where can people learn more about your movie
and maybe get a preview copy
or we'll talk about your marketing plan after this.
Yeah, well one could go to the website,
it's drivingoutthewicked.com and you can read a synopsis
and see a clip of the film, and if one wanted,
like through a donation of 10 dollars or more,
I could send the early copy of the film to them to watch.
You know, when they donate 10 dollars, I get an email.
I can send them a link to watch the film,
so it's kind of a way of me giving back
for them helping me,
'cause I'm still going to be adding a little to this
and I still need a little help with editing
and I'm kinda of put a lot of money into it,
so I'm recovering.
So they can go to the website
and click on the PayPal button, donate 10 bucks
and I send them the film to watch.
And people really do like the film.
Drivingoutthewicked.com, let's take a short break.
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Welcome back, I'm Dr. Chaps joined by Frank Panico
who was raised in Queens, trained in Hollywood,
and is now a Christian movie maker,
has produced eight documentary films,
starting with, Frank name some of the other films
that you've made and where can people find those.
Right, the first one I did was called "Lambs Among Wolves"
it dived into the spiritual warfare that's going on,
and I think people need to be aware of.
The ones I had most successful,
that I've had most success with is one called "Drive"
one called "My Friend Raymond" and it's won awards,
it won at the International Christian Film Festival
and it's carried on Pure Flicks,
and also Pure Flicks just picked up
another one of my films called "Each One Teach One"
and it kinda zones in on the importance
of all races to work together
and there's no room for racism.
So you can look on Pure Flicks to find two of my films,
and of course you can always contact me
through my website and I could get you a DVD,
or a you know, you can watch the film online.
So you know, slowly I'm putting notches in my belt
and that's basically it.
You're doing great.
Thank you.
Why did you become fascinated with the pro-life activists
that you feature in your film?
They were just really, well first of all
when I decided to do a pro-life film,
you need to find experts in the field
and you know, I found some that were kinda, you know,
not too thrilling to me.
But then you know, I found Flip Benham and he was awesome.
He was with Operation Rescue and Operation Save America.
He's an awesome guy, strong pro-life advocate.
He's the one that baptized Norma McCorvey
and I actually have footage, classic footage from 1990,
in the 90's when she was interviewed by a friend of ours
and I got permission to use the footage.
So one can actually watch an interview with Norma McCorvey,
you know she passed away not long ago.
But I have interview footage of Norma McCorvey,
and she speaks about the truth of the Roe V Wade case,
where it was just built on lies.
She was the plaintiff
in the Roe versus Wade case that went to the Supreme Court.
She was a pregnant woman, did not get an abortion,
but they sued for her right to get an abortion
and unfortunately established the precedent
to kill so many children.
She later became a pro-life activist.
I met her at pro-life rallies at Notre Dame
where I saw her getting arrested
for standing up for the rights of the unborn
and recently passed away.
So you have featured Norma McCorvey in your film?
Also Father Stephen Embarato, is he a pro-life activist?
Yes, he was with, he used to have a show called,
"Defending Life" and now he's with his own ministry
called, what is it called, Ministry US.
He also works with Red Rose Rescue.
So yeah, he's big in the pro-life movement.
He's an awesome character too.
He lays it out, you know?
One of the main questions I ask, which really bugs me,
is how anyone who calls themself a Christian,
could vote for let's just say someone who supports abortion,
or a party that supports abortion?
It just, it's insane how anyone could vote
for a party or a person
that supports the death of unborn children,
or even sometimes right after birth.
It just, it kinda really upsets me when people,
how can you vote that way?
It's crazy, it's crazy that anyone,
So other pro-life heroes that we know,
of course, Flip, David and Jason Benham,
who are sons of Flip Benham
you mentioned with Operation Save America.
Also Mark Harrington with Created Equal,
Linda Bell with Florida Right to Life,
and also the spiritual counselor to President Trump,
Pastor Mark Burns.
Right, exactly.
I traveled to North Carolina and filmed Pastor Mark Burns,
he's an awesome guy.
He was Pastor to Trump early on
and they met a number of times.
They're still in contact, so he tells the story about
how Trump came to be pro-life
and he's an awesome, awesome interviewee.
He adds a lot to the film, as is Linda Bell
from the Florida Right to Life.
They all pull it together really well,
they're really entertaining,
and especially Flip Benham,
he reminds me of John the Baptist.
He's just like, "This is the truth, and I'm gonna say it."
You know?
Yeah.
He doesn't care.
He's been arrested like more than 50 times.
Yeah.
You know?
And his story, it's really awesome 'cause God did it for me,
'cause I have all this footage
about Norma McCorvey and Flip back then
and when I was doing the film,
I originally had like all the
Norma McCorvey, Flip Benham stuff all in one spot
and I'm like, "That doesn't work."
'Cause you got then,
well what happened to all the other interviewees
we just watched?
So I kind of, well Lord help me,
we've dented out back and forth to her story
and then the pro-life movement story,
and then her story and the pro-life movement story,
and I'm just, all the glory goes to God for that.
Amen.
I like the concept, let's take a short break.
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how did President Trump become pro-life after this.
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Welcome back, joined again by Frank Xavier Panico.
Frank, I think you might be named after some saints there,
Francis Xavier.
Exactly, yes I'm named not after Francis of Assisi
my name is Francis Xavier,
but I'm named after Saint Francis Xavier, yeah.
I like it, and I see the cross on your neck.
You look like a good Italian American Catholic
and you come out of a rich heritage from New York.
But why did you become pro-life?
And then I'll ask about President Trump.
Right, why did I become pro-life?
Well, I've been attending church my whole life.
One time I strayed away from the faith for a little time,
but I still always went to church
and in church they're constantly saying,
"How are you gonna spread the word of God?
How are you gonna?"
And I thought, "Well what better way but through film."
And we all have to stand for something,
and it's just kinda built in me.
Anyone who's a Christian has to be pro-life, you know?
When people ask me, no offense, like when they say,
"Well why are you pro-life?"
I'm like, "Well, why aren't you?"
You know?
It's kind of a given.
The murder of children in the womb is just unacceptable.
It's a separate human being, it has it's own DNA,
it's own blood, it's a creation of God,
and you know, I just kind of you know,
I try you know, I'm a sinner like everyone else
but I try and do my part, you know?
There was a time when I was volunteering in a nursing home,
I've been involved with Big Brothers Big Sisters,
had a big little brother for like three years.
So I kinda try and do my part in some way.
So becoming part of the pro-life movement,
perhaps it's my job,
like some people are designed to go
stand outside the clinic with signs.
You know, and other people are designed
to go into court rooms and fight that battle.
And maybe other people are designed like me
to just record it all and spread the message
throughout the world.
So being a Christian, it kind of,
everyone who calls themself a Christian,
they need to be pro-life.
It's that simple.
Let's go ahead and roll a short clip
of Pastor Mark Burns talking about President Trump
and his journey to become pro-life.
The President shared a story with me about his pro-life
and pro-choice decisions.
Under a Donald Trump administration
all lives matter!
(cheering)
12 to 15 years ago, there was a personal friend of his,
and this is what he said to me.
A personal friend who became pregnant,
she's a very close friend of the family
and she was pregnant and she was contemplating
not having that child.
And he, having a relationship with her,
seeing her pregnant, seeing this child move in her stomach,
really touched him, it moved him
like nothing that's ever happened before.
And he said, "Pastor, you know,
when I laid my hands on her belly
and I felt the movement of this child
that I realized there was a real child
in this woman's body."
And he said at that moment, he begin to tell her,
"You cannot have this, you cannot have this abortion,
you cannot abort this child."
And because of that, helped convince her to have the child
and this child is growing and now again,
a very, very close friend of the family.
And he said it was at that moment that his attitude changed
to becoming you know, from pro-choice
to becoming a champion for being for pro-life.
Now we having those that are liberals
and those that are atheists and those that do not believe.
They're challenging the very existence that God is.
This is a God nation, this nation does belong to God
and whenever we are out of line from God's principles
this nation cannot be blessed,
it is impossible for this nation to be blessed
if we're not carrying out
what God instructs us to carry out.
So that was the clip by Pastor Mark Burns.
Now, why did he, for example,
stand in front of the Washington monument
and speak to the pro-life marchers,
250 thousand people marched for the unborn
and President Trump was leading the parade.
What's your take on him?
You know, I love our President
and he's on a journey as it says in the film.
He's on a journey, when people are praying for him
and he's changing, he's changing, I can see it,
everyone can see it, and it's all through prayer.
And you know, I'll just go right ahead
and say it boldly right now
I believe he needs to change as well.
He needs to sign a personhood proclamation executive order
to declare that child in the womb a person.
So I hope this message gets to him.
Mr. Trump, we love you,
but you need to sign the personhood proclamation
and make it an executive order that people realize
that that's a human being inside the womb of this child.
Amen.
And then also, like one thing
I'm gonna criticize him about is because, as of now,
hopefully he changed his mind.
But he thinks it's still okay to kill a child in the womb
if the woman was raped, or if it was incest.
And I would ask him to please not think that way
because no matter how the child came to be,
it's still a creation, like a sacred gift from God,
like he tells everybody.
How it came to be you know, is difficult.
And if a woman was raped, just for anybody you know,
first of all less than,
one and half percent of abortions are from rape.
And second of all, if you kill your child after a rape,
first of all you had a terrible, traumatic experience
through a rape, then you're gonna have a second
terrible, traumatic experience by killing your child.
That's not a good thing to do.
My heart goes out to these women,
but they need to have the child and give it up for adoption.
So I wanna offer to pray with our audience
and maybe you would join me.
Father in heaven,
we pray for an end to the abortion holocaust
and we ask that as President Trump is evolving in his faith,
Father we pray he grows
closer and closer to Jesus every day.
Amen.
Just as we are trying to grow, as Frank is trying to grow,
Father we pray for everyone who's in this film,
who helped put it together and as the finishing touches
are prepared for distribution,
I pray that the flood gates will open for wide distribution
and wide viewership and good financing,
so that this film "Driving Out The Wicked"
can impact the debate and influence the next generation
of young people who are considering their options
when it comes to the abortion debate.
Father, I ask your blessing on Frank for his faithfulness
and just continue to use us as your mouth piece
in whatever way you can, in Jesus name amen.
Frank, I'll give you the last word, go ahead.
Well, I would just like to say
everybody please pray for the end of abortion.
You can pray for this coronavirus that's going on,
and just pray for the end of abortion.
Pray for our President, that he grows closer to God
every single day.
Amen.
And he totally, totally,
if he just full on took the mantle of being pro-life
and just, he would go down in history as the best President.
He could be wrong on everything else,
as it says in the film, but if he got this right
and just saved the unborn,
he would go down in history to be the best President
this United States has ever seen.
Let's pray for that to happen.
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