>What would you do if you woke
up one day and
found yourself in the
tribulation? 
Here to discuss that question
is Brent Miller Jr.
Brent, welcome to Prophecy
Watchers! >>Thank you Gary.
It's a 
pleasure to be here. >You are a
film maker. 
I might just say--and I don't
want to embarrass you--but I
think
you are a film maker of the
first magnitude. 
You wrote and directed this,
"The Final 
Prophecies," this DVD. How
would you describe 
this Brent, "The Final
Prophecies"? >>"The Final
Prophecies" was our attempt 
to use apologetics to not only
edify 
Christians but to also be an
ultimate ministry tool
to the non-believing world. To
actually show the big picture
of Biblical prophetic validity.
Whereas if we follow
the history of prophetic events
that have come to pass in the
past, 
then the ones that remain that
have to come to pass in the
future
must also come to pass being
that it's all from the same
source. 
But too often we hear people
look at Biblical history and
say 'well we've
seen these prophetic events
occur in the past and that's
very interesting. Now let's
wait and see if the future
unfolds the same way.' So what
we're
doing is showing a pattern with
real geological 
political evidence that there
is a 
prophetic pattern occurring
that will lead to the
fulfillment of these
prophecies. And of course it's
based on apologetics research.
That film has gone on to be one
of the most watched
prophecy films to the
non-believing world. >From our
perspective here at 
Prophecy Watchers, it is THE
most watched. We've never seen a
response to a DVD like we've
seen to "The Final Prophecies." 
The production qualities, just
being swept along
by the beautiful scenery and
the scrip and the narration,
everything is just
right. And the Biblical message
in "The Final Prophecies" 
is that we're really getting
close to something huge. 
There's a sense of that, but
you've done
something else, and we're going
to talk on this program today
about
the something else. That is
this. I'm holding 
up the Blu-ray version of this,
it's called "The Coming
Convergence"
and you need to understand that
title, "The Coming
Convergence." 
Something is converging and
that's sort
of a central theme in this
particular DVD
Blu-ray being released.
>>Absolutely. "The Coming
Convergence" began
as an eschatology-based
research 
project that began filming
after "The Final Prophecies" was
released. There was such an
explosion of interest in "The
Final Prophecies"
with the information, new
information that so many people
that they never
knew about, the validity of
Biblical prophecy, that they
wanted more. 
So "The Coming Convergence" was
a project to dig in and
see if we could prove without
any doubt not only that
Biblical prophecy was
absolutely 
true, but that the approaching
tribulation is
also absolutely true. And the
reason why it's so crucial now
in this day and age is
because more people than ever
are disbelieving anything
to do with Biblical prophecy in
the non-believing world. In
fact 
we've seen a drastic reduction
in churches teaching
eschatology, 
teaching the book of
Revelation. More and more of
them are avoiding 
prophecy every year. And so
what we're seeing is
an issue that there is a divide
occurring 
between those that are
following Biblical prophecy,
genuine prophecy 
that understand what it is,
that understand that
eschatology verses
the world that is confusing the
difference
between prediction and
prophecy. For example, 
we look at all these kind of
events that go viral, that end 
up making the news, the nightly
new. Y2K,
the Mayan calendar, a lot of
these kind of 
celestial events that are
brought up and discussed. As
interesting as they are, and as
much as Prophecy Watchers should
be researching and studying and
watching these things, there
is a lot of misconception and
confusion that that and only
that is Bible prophecy. So when
you have like the
2012 Mayan calendar prediction
which by the way has nothing to
do with Bible
prophecy, >Right. >>a lot of
the people, they end up
throwing 
prediction and prophecy in the
same tub and it al gets thrown
out. 
So there is this great divide
that is occurring because 
of misinformation and
deception. So we set out
to do what is the ultimate
apologetics prophetic research
film that we feel that has ever
been released
in our day and age. >Now when
you say 'apologetics', let's
expand on that
idea because apologetics is not
aimed
at the Bible scholar. You are 
aiming this at someone who
doesn't necessarily have a lot
of Biblical
knowledge and yet they're
looking, and they don't quite
know where to look at this
point. 
>>Right, absolutely. It's based
on my own experience, 
I was a manager for MTV networks
so working in big media we saw
how companies can take
misinformation and present that
to a nonbelieving world to help
kind of 
create some of these
misconceptions. So when we say
'apologetics' 
we're presenting information
that 
anybody can understand. Not
only does it reinforce
the Christian, edify them, lift
them up but it also
gives the nonbelieving world
real information that they can
relate to, to actually
understand that these things
are occurring.
>Now you recently premiered
"The Coming Convergence" 
and tell us about that, where,
when, and so forth. 
>>A few weeks ago we did
premiere this film at
a theater in California. It was
a 
full audience and there were
obviously a lot of 
Christians that did show up in
the audience, we wanted to get
their feedback. But there was
also a lot of 
non-believers and people of
various backgrounds. What we 
wanted to do, this goes beyond
just a normal documentary. 
What we wanted to do was
combine actual cinematography,
film elements
and true documentary research,
journalistic
research and apologetics to not
only prove that these Biblical 
events that are to come to pass
in the end of 
days are converging now without
any doubt, but also tell 
a story of--as what you started
out with, what would it be like
if you DID wake up in the
tribulation, because 
prophetic films shouldn't just
be supported by the Christian
world. They need to be
supported and
viewed by the non-believing
world. That's really the point
of what we're trying to to
accomplish
here, is to get the world to
the non-believing world. So by
combining cinematography with
our actress. 
Erin Hawkins who is an
incredible actress who
plays the part of a young girl
who actually lives in the
future in the
tribulation period. So we're
going through this documentary
with incredible evidence that
shocked our audience. Even
Christians 
were shocked and bewildered
by the proof that we had and
that we're exposing in "The
Coming Convergence." 
That this is absolutely
provable and occurring. But the
sequences 
with our actress who kind of
interrupts the documentary, we
go to 
her in the future who is now,
to her it's all past. Today
we're 
debating the things that are to
come, right? But for
her they're a reality, they've
happened. >And watching
her, it's an emotional kind of
affect that
you get watching, it's
not--this is not an
intellectual effort
necessarily. You 
are persuading through emotion.
>>right. We're actually
combining the two, and
in that aspect this is a
documentary unlike anything
that has ever been released. 
>You told me that at the
premiere of this thing people
were displaying a lot of
emotion. Talk about that a
minute. >>Absolutely. I believe
the
message--it not only affected
Christians, but the 
non-believing world so much,
the audience that 
people were crying at the
theater. I mean, it
was a profound effect that it
had on the
audience and immediately we're
getting feedback that this
truly is one of the most
powerful
ministry tools that people have
ever seen. >And having
said that could we take a
little break here and kind of
look at a brief segment,
a preview if you will, of "The
Coming Convergence"?
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Girl: >They say we were made in
God's
image. I believe it. 
Our achievements
are past imagination. 
Our creations marveled. 
But our hearts are not pure. 
So in the pursuit of
greatness, we built our empires
upon death and 
suffering. But the world
we shaped could never last. 
In the end, 
we brought wrath upon 
ourselves. 
And I was there. 
When the skies opened and fire 
rained down from the heavens. 
I witnessed a new leader
rise from the ashes promising
peace,
but only death came. 
Now, as the world wages war
I hide as the innocent are
slaughtered.
But there are those
that knew these days were
coming, speaking of
prophecies and signs. >>We will
be moving toward
a one-world government. >Maybe
that's why I'm still here, to
warn
you how the world really ends. 
--------
>Well, indeed emotional. 
You know, as I watched this
presentation, and I always
watch with a critical
eye because I'm a student of
Bible prophecy, a student of
the Bible. I like to present
the gospel. I like to present
prophecy. 
Most of all I like to present
prophecy to people who've never
studied it. 
This is all brand new to them.
But
they've got to be brought in.
In some way or another their
curiosity 
has to be aroused, and I think
that your production really
does that. >>Well thank you
Gary. We
want to address prophecy in a
way that is believable to 
everybody. >Yeah. >>One of the
biggest misconceptions
that people have, which is one
of the things we began
discussing, 
was the difference between
prediction and genuine Biblical
prophecy. To
most people, and especially
those that misunderstand
prophecy
they think prophecy is just a
single event that's predicted,
let's see
if it comes to pass or not.
Right? And that's why we have
the Y2K incidents
and so on. In reality, that's
not Biblical prophecy at all. 
Biblical prophecy consists of
about a quarter of the entire
Bible. And some theologians say
that it's about 2,500 prophecies
in total. And these prophecies
are actually structured like a
sequence of
dominoes where in order for the
next one to occur the
event before it has to come to
pass. >Mhm. >>If you remove
just one domino 
from that sequence the whole
sequence comes to a stop, it
falls apart. 
This is what's not understood
about prophecy. So when we
see these prophetic events
unfold, 
not only is it, do we have to
recognize that this was
prophesied 
and came to pass, but all the
events that had to occur before
that that 
were prophesied that had to
occur for that event to come to
pass, that when 
you actually begin studying
these events in Biblical
history you begin to 
realize that statistically,
compounding statistics, that
when an event comes to pass the
odds are so astronomical 
it should absolutely not have
happened. It's as far as
secular thinking goes, it
should never occur. This is one
of the
things that tells us that these
prophetic events
and the Bible comes from a
divine source and can
absolutely be
proven, and that's the point of
prophecy. You have to ask, why
did God
give us prophecy? Why does it
exist at all? It's
because prophecy, genuine
prophecy, can only come from
God.
Who is outside of time, who is
outside 
of our world. So 
God gave us prophecy to prove
that He is
God. He didn't have to, it's
for our
edification, it's to show us
that when we see these things
we know that He is
God. >So the title "The Coming
Convergence" 
is talking about the
convergence of all of the 
signs and wonders that we
see in the Bible,
specifically--and you've heard
about
the signs that Jesus talked
about. Very general signs,
earthquakes, famines,
pestilence, 
various
geological naturalistic kind of
catastrophes 
happening more and more and
more frequently. 
And I think you make a pretty
good case that that's happening
right now. 
>>Absolutely. By looking--again
going
back to how the remaining
prophecies 
are going to unfold in the end
of days, it's not just one
sign or two signs or three.
Jesus spoke of many
signs. So Jesus Himself warns
us of a convergence. 
It's something that not a lot
of churches or individuals are
talking about. We're so focused
on the tree we're missing the
forest. If you don't
acknowledge the forest, the big
picture of prophecy, then we
cannot communicate that to a
nonbeliever, to everybody else. 
We're just sharing the tree
with them, which they may take
or may not. 
It doesn't prove that prophecy
as a whole is absolutely real
to someone
who say is a skeptic. So Jesus,
He spoke
of coming wars, economic
turmoil. 
Various disasters. All these
types of things. And what we
hear commonly, and I'm sure you
have as well, is that so many
people say 'well we've always
had
wars and disasters, so how is
that any different? I guess you
have to take
these prophetic events in the
end of days on blind faith.'
Whereas in fact Jesus used
verbiage that didn't just
indicate
wars and disasters. It was
global
wars and global disasters will
be signs. And not only
that, but not that these things
would occur but that they would
occur all at the same time.
That's a scenario that 
has never happened in the
history of man
and that is why we have to look
to this
convergence to see that if it's
unfolding. Because if this is
indeed the last
generation, if we are at the
11th hour then evidence for
everything
Christ spoke of, this
convergence, must be unfolding
now. So the
more that we flew around the
world, we filmed in Israel
and Turkey. We've spoken with
theologians 
like Jack Hibbs and Ray
Bentley, and
what we have found with the
evidence and statistical,
geological,
et cetera, is that these
convergences, 
the foundation for them, is
there. They are happening and
they're
coming, they've converging to a
point very very quickly,
especially over the last
100 years that would indicate
that this statistically--again
we live by statistics every
day. So 
statistically this must be the
last generation. 
>And that's emphasized by the
fact that Israel is back in the
land, was out of the land until
1947-48
and since Israel returned and
became
a part of the community of
nations
officially these are the last
days. Because the Bible is
totally
focused on what happens to
Israel. >>Absolutely. In fact
that's another
statistical point where you
have to look at the prophetic
timeline
as a whole. When Christ
prophesied the rebirth of
Israel, the rebuilding
of the fig tree that was before
Israel had collapsed in the
first place. 
Again reinforcing that example
of the prophetic domino 
sequence which makes the
rebirth of Israel 1948
not just the most astonishing
thing in history, but even
more so the most astonishing
thing in history which
statistically could not have
happened unless it was truly
from divine source. >A divine
source,
the authoritative source--in
fact the only authoritative 
source, the Lord God Himself
who said in 
Isaiah "I create the end from
the beginning." In other words
when it comes to Bible
prophecy the Lord laid it out
in 
advance and in a way He was
laying down a challenge to all
of us to read the Bible
to understand for ourselves
what He intends to do. It's
really clear once you begin to 
study it. But today, sadly,
we've kind of fallen away
from that study. I think "The
Coming Convergence" 
is aimed straight at that group
of
people who need answers and
don't know where
to look. >>Absolutely. This
film 
was in production for over two
years to not only
speak to the believing world.
The believing world, we're
not infallible. 
We need encouragement and we
need 
proof. Now a lot of people
would argue and say, well you
know I don't need
proof, I have blind faith. And
for those individuals, may the
Lord
bless them. But most people
want proof
and edification and we know
that because of Biblical
examples
themselves, the reason why God
gave us prophecy was to prove
to us
that these things would happen
and that He was there. There
are many examples in the
Bible where we fall short and
the Lord is there to prove
to us with statistics,
evidence, et cetera. Doubting
Thomas
with Christ, you know, anything
you need to do, do so that you
know
that I am He. So God is always
giving us proof and
evidence that what He says is
the truth. He's giving us every
opportunity
that we need to believe. 
>Brent, when we go to prophecy
conferences
people come to us all the time
and over and over
I can't emphasize this too
much. They say to us
'at my church Bible prophecy
just isn't taught. My
pastor doesn't teach it.' and I
suppose you run into this
yourself. >>Yeah, absolutely.
Which is part of the reason why
we see this great
divide between people of many
different backgrounds, between
the difference between
prediction and prophecy. We're
not just talking about
the non-believing world. "The
Coming Convergence" affects
Christians sometimes just as
deeply as those on the
fence or those that are unsure
about Biblical prophecy. Because
churches are not teaching
eschatology. It's a topic that
is
being avoided. What's
interesting is that some people
may think that
apologetics, just presenting
evidence--fighting fire with
fire. 
That's what this is about. It
is a new thing, and it is not. 
It's something that we have
lost. In fact if we look at the
apostle Paul
in the first century it states
that he reasoned in the 
synagogues for weeks with Jews
and the Greeks. 
>Indeed he did and I'm sure
that his reasoning
was also based upon
a lot of prophecy, what we call
prophecy today. Except that it
was originated a couple
thousand years ago.
>>Absolutely. What it means
by 'reasoning' he didn't just
stand up there and preach a
message. When he
reasoned he actually presented
Biblical 
history, prophetic evidence, and
statistics that proved that the
Messiah had come, died, rose
and had fulfilled prophecy. 
So he's using all the things
that the church today should be
using to not
only lift up their
congregations but to 
also educate the non-believing
world that
prophecy is real. Again
prophecy has such importance
because it's
one of the greatest things that
can be used to prove
the validity of the Bible. If
you have 2,500
prophecies and two-thirds of
them come to pass, which is
what most theologians
say about Biblical prophecy,
then why wouldn't the remaining
one-third 
also come to pass? You're
looking at a pattern 
that statistically you can no
longer deny. But most people
don't
know this, they're not teaching
it, and they're not sharing it
with others. 
>You know these presentations
that you
do, I think have a common
effect 
and that is 
they inspire thought, but they
also inspire emotion. Let's
just call it what it is: fear. 
You need to have a healthy fear
and Solomon said "the fear of
the Lord's the beginning of
wisdom." 
I think most of our society
today doesn't really fear
God. They may fear a lot of
other things
but when you begin to fear the
Lord as the creator
and the one who is going to
bring it all to an
end in a particular way which
He is very very open
in talking about in Scripture,
once you begin to
understand that you are seized
by a kind of a fear. Lord, what
must I 
do at this point now that I
realize that these
things are going to happen? And
I think that's the effect that
you're getting with your
presentation. >>Right. And
honestly the intention 
was not to create fear, even
though
you're right, that is the
result of so many people people
that
watch this. All we're doing is
presenting the truth. When 
people hear the truth it can be
a scary
thing. Truth can be offensive,
it can also be scary. 
And so I do believe that's why
a lot of people do 
react with fear. They want to
dive in, 
they want the truth and it's
changing lives. We know just
from the premier that we held
in California, we were
receiving e-mails
and phone calls of attendees
where they were going home, 
their husbands were crying and
talking about it for hours
after the movie, days
after the film they were still
talking about it, googling some
of these things
and discovering that the
evidence that we have exposed
that prove 
the convergence is happening
and it is absolutely changing
lives. It's something that
I think everybody should share
with everybody they know. >It's
called "The Coming Convergence" 
this is the DVD, this is the
Blu-ray,
we have either one. By the way,
if you 
order either of these I have a
couple of bonus DVDs. 
I want you to got to
prophecywatchers.com and just
click 
on the online bookstore and
scroll
down and you're going to find
Brent Miller's name
in there and you're going to
find these offerings. Now "The
Coming Convergence
either in Blu-ray or DVD, when
you order either one of
these you're going to get "The
Coming Pole Shift"
and "Fire From Heaven." And by
the way, these
have been viewed by a lot of
people. If you haven't seen
them here's your opportunity to
get them absolutely free.
Brent, you're going
to be present at the Blessed
Hope Prophecy Forum October
13th-15th.
What do you have planned? 
>>What I have planned is that
we're going to present some of 
the evidences that are in the
film and actually dive in a
little 
more in-depth about some of
those statistical occurrences
and some updates regarding how
some of the foundations
for these converging events are
changing and heading
more towards the tribulation
period of these end of times. 
>Believe me, I would recommend
these to you
because I've watched them. When
you
watch Brent's presentation
you're going to be emotionally
moved.
I was and you can't help but
be. Now, I
have an understanding of my
salvation and my
destiny. I'm safe in the Lord,
I don't have anything to
fear at all. But I can really
commiserate with people who
don't have that blessed hope. 
And it's these people that
you're wanting to reach, and I
think you do. 
>>Thank you, absolutely. That
truly is the goal of the film.
In
fact our conclusion of the film
is truly
not just about these prophetic
events are unfolding and the
emotional
tale of our actress which we
call the girl living in the
tribulation period. 
and how that connects to pretty
much everybody who watched the
film.
But it's also to make the
point, to reiterate the fact
that prophecy
exists, for God to prove to us
that He is God. 
If the prophecies are true that
means everything the Bible
contains is true
including the message of
eternal life for those who
follow Jesus
Christ. And that is the
ultimate point of
what we're trying to
accomplish. >His name: Brent
Miller Jr., 
and we really appreciate what
he has done. Once again 
you can get either the DVD of
"The Coming Convergence"
Blu-Ray 
"The Coming Convergence you're
going to be amazed at the
production 
qualities of this thing. It's a
wonderful motion picture.
Brent, thanks
for being here. >>Thank you
Gary. It was a pleasure. >I'm
Gary Stearman
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