and so we would never have had uh a Kyle
Rittenhouse situation
we would never have had a J bishop
situation we'd
not have any of this if democrat
mayors and governors simply
implemented and fulfilled their law
keeping
responsibilities they deliberately
abdicated them there is no spinning
their way out of that one
i'm dr duke with a new american really
happy to be joined by dr
steve turley who has a remarkable
internet presence
uh he's a remarkable speaker and writer
we we have some videos of his
recent work over at the new american and
steve thanks for joining us
oh it's my pleasure dude thank you so
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fantastic that's great news especially
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that you're going the right direction
we um i read recently one of your pieces
on what's going on in portland uh how
this patriot this conservative patriot
had lost has lost his life
not only do you have goons aunt of a
goons celebrating this in the streets
you now have the mayor of portland just
the reprehensible mayor wheeler
who has figured out pretty much what joe
biden has figured out
that you can't ignore it you can't
pretend it's peaceful protest anymore
you're going to have to call it out but
they're calling it out and blaming it
all predictably
on donald trump talk to give us your
take on the situation
yeah it is it is certainly escalated
there's no question i i'd say
in my video and i do have an article on
as well i think we may have crossed a
line
uh where um the hostility now
uh can't be rolled back um
in order to have a democratic society of
some kind
you have to have what's called the
communication model and the
communication model
is this notion that even though we're
maybe different ideologies or different
races or different cultures
we can still communicate intelligibly
with one another we're all human it's
rooted in the christian tradition of the
image of god
we all share in common certain
frames of reference that speak to our
humanity
and and that way you can have a poly
ethnic society that can come together
and work out things in our case
constitutionally and so on
we're moving into a period now where
that's being questioned like never
before and ironically it's being
questioned
on the democratic party and i think
people like ted wheeler
and uh jenny durkin over in seattle and
the soy boy fry in minneapolis
and even de blasio new york they are
feeling an extraordinary
pressure if you notice they're all part
of the white
the old white bourgeois liberal class
but a new left is rising up and it's a
very
ethnonationalist it's a very tribalistic
uh monoethnic uh left
that in many respects resembles what we
would normally call the
alt-right it's a it's a nationalist
absolutism
based upon one's race and if we're
different races and different cultures
then we can't communicate
with each other so the communication
model breaks down
that's why we're seeing the death of
democratic procedures i think
and uh and rhetoric in the left and so
what i think these
big city mayors are doing is they are
doing their best to stave off
what seems to be an inevitable civil war
within the left a civil war between the
new left
the antifa blm left the radical marxist
left
versus the old bourgeois globalist left
and the way they're trying to do it is
to pass off the buck
to trump and the republicans and try to
ignite a different civil war
a civil war between the radical left
and the growing very vibrant patriot
movement that's going all across
the country that has law enforcement
backing them
so we're seeing a very fascinating
coalition going on particularly in
portland
we're seeing it in kenosha we've seen it
in seattle where
law enforcement officials are actually
forming
informal alliances if not full out
joining
armed militias to protect suburbs and
exurbs from this urban insanity this
urban riot mentality
and so i think what we're seeing here is
an absolute mess
that many ways is the collapse of the
left
because they're going through their own
civil war and
uh i think they're trying to turn this
more and more into
a broader civil war so as to deflect
from their own
failures and inadequacies yeah the model
you just mentioned you can see it in the
democrat
top-tier politicians it's interesting to
me that the american people definitively
during the primaries definitively
rejected bernie sanders i'm talking
about democrat voters and chose
joe biden misguidedly thinking that he
was somehow more of a moderate
now that we know that joe biden's entire
platform is bernie's
platform plus a little bit more to the
left
it's amazing to me that there's not a
really a defection away from
by maybe there will be by election day
but if
if the democrat voters who rejected
bernie are getting now bernie on
steroids
you would think that they would see that
right it doesn't seem like at least
initially
that they all seem to be taking the the
party line that well he's
still better than donald trump right
that's part of the problem i i think and
what you said the other thing is
really important that we should follow
up on is with
all of these fraction lines in the
democrat party
it seems to me the old-time liberal
globalists that you mention are siding
with
basically giving free reign to the
radical left wing the only way they
think they can
survive is not to move back the other
way
and support moderate conservatives
people who want to see borders and free
speech
they're why are they going rad at full
left this way
that's a good question that's a good
question i don't know the answer to that
one because you're you're absolutely
right because that's certainly what the
the the moderate center-right neocons
did with trump they just went and joined
with the democrats
um the never trumpers as it were but
you're not
seeing sort of the never aocs as much
right
um we are interestingly enough we may
be seeing a movement like that based on
the latest emerson
poll with black voters which is really
fascinating
uh leo tyrell on the sean hannity show
just the other night he uh he's he's
predicting that trump is going to get
the biggest share of black votes for any
modern republican candidate that we've
ever seen
um already we're seeing 19 according to
the emerson polls saying they're gonna
vote for trump which is
astonishing i think he got the fact that
they're saying they're going to vote for
him is big because
there are those who would do not want to
risk the outing in the cancel culture
who are probably going to vote for him
too if 19 are willing to say it
it does make you wonder if they're not
another 10 who just don't want to say it
that's that's a fantastic insight
especially in that latest study that
just came out that said there is a
silent majority there is a a
significant group of about 20 it was at
25
they don't want to tell anyone their
voting preference for trump because they
just don't they don't want to get into
it they don't like the
the terrible uh confrontations that they
get into no i think you're right this is
this is pretty stunning certainly tyrell
and again who was a liberal he's not a
wishful thinking conservative he was a
leftist uh for a number of years he and
sean hannity always
got on you know they were always arguing
the opposite
uh sides of the coin here so i'm
i'm very hopeful when you look at every
poll
among african americans they always
want more police they not less they want
more funding
not less they don't buy into this
bizarre
marxist notion of you know
cancel culture now extended to the
police
uh to defund and abolish they're
horrified by that
and they're seeing again they may not
like trump
they may not like republicans but they
see him as the only one who's standing
in between them
and this left-wing hysteria i've seen it
too with urban
populations white urban populations so
you're seeing it as a middle upper class
uh where normally they would have left
their urban environment say like you
know brooklyn new york
la and uh moved out to
texas and then brought their blue
politics with them
what we're finding now is they're moving
out since covid
since the insanity with the urban riots
they've moved out deliberately trying to
protect themselves
from these insane democratic policies so
again they're not necessarily fans of
trump or the republicans
but they are voting now to defend
themselves so it's a defensive vote
and i think you're going to find them
defecting over to the republicans in
mass as well
for anybody who's concerned about this
or not understanding what's happening
they had an interesting news graph
yesterday of just
dozens and dozens of moving vans in new
york city manhattan
just a caravan of them all loading
people up and taking them out
here's hoping what you said is exactly
correct for the first time
they don't move to florida they don't
move to georgia they don't move to idaho
or arizona and bring their voting
patterns with them
if they're if they're moving this
quickly if they're in the space of
six months deciding they've had enough
here's hoping they will
vote for policies that don't replicate
what they had
in the big progressive cities steve
we'll be back in just a moment on the
side of the break we'll continue this
conversation
back again for our another interview
with steve turley steve
uh we were be beginning to to ask the
question about what's going on with the
murder the murder of our conservative
patriot
in portland and how everybody's trying
to deflect this right
uh they're blaming trump for this
trump's the reason that conservatives
dead which i
i find it really hard to believe steve
that
that there are many sober democrats who
aren't laughing out loud at that
absolutely everybody knows i mean
michael goodwin of the new york post
who just had fun smacking the the
democrats around with us
nobody is buying this everybody knows
that the masked mandates that were
absolutely
non-negotiable for business owners and
those crazy right-wing
nut patriots who are coming out where
you where you had
where you had healthcare workers in
their scrubs
and their mass standing in front of them
like the team and square person standing
in front of a tank
everyone saw those mask mandates
magically disappear the moment you had
this woke wave and that's why we're
never going to see it another major
shutdown again i don't think
i mean that's over nobody buys it
anymore
so and they know this is the these were
the democratic
this is the party that was not just
simply
sympathetic with the riots and the
looting and so forth
they were actually cheerleaders for it
right chris cuomo so whoever
said that uh protests were supposed to
be peaceful right
so no one's buying that no one's buying
it at all and plus we have
studies that show this is a princeton
study that came out in
2016 that race riots
historically consistently make america
more conservative
he looked at the race riots particularly
in the 1960s
and found that the republican
presidential candidate gained almost 10
points in 1968 than from the
previous uh election presidential
election in 1964
in those counties that were closest and
most proximate
to the urban race riot so i think
republicans know that
and i think democrats are getting a
sense of that
and so that's why the republicans were
able to pound the democrats
as purveyors of
you know riots and insanity and chaos
and mayhem
that they're the party of law and order
and democrats know they're stuck with it
they know
as we saw cnn sees the polls that
they're not showing interestingly enough
their internal polls rush limbaugh is
talking about that
the internal polls all show that the
democrats are
losing support in drove that i love that
uh
image you gave new york city people
leaving in their caravans i think in
many ways that's what we're seeing
too to a certain extent with with
sentiments towards the democrats among
independents they
may have been considering joe biden but
now after seeing all this
they've had it and they're going to go
and vote for their incumbent well we had
to see
a cdc center for disease control a
disease control spokesman actually come
out a couple days ago and argue
that no no no no no that church is one
thing where people
infect themselves they have to wear
masks they're just hot beds of contagion
but these protests are are fighting
something more important than covid
they're fighting systemic racism so the
doctor
the so-called doctors at the cdc said
nope got to keep churches
shut down in the name of medicine and
science
but in the name of sociology sociology
we have to let
the looters loot and the burners burn
and that to me shows you how much faith
we should have in organizations like the
cdc
which the left insists we must always
believe
transitioning real quick here between
the the patriot who was murdered
in in portland with all the portland
activists celebrating that on tv
cameras and ted wheeler ignoring it and
then the situation with young written
house in kenosha
a young man maybe a little bit
overzealous maybe a little bit
with with a comic book understanding of
everything was going on but nevertheless
showed up at the riots with a gun trying
to be helpful for those
whose business were being raped and
pillaged he as we know got into an
encounter fired his gun
looking more and more like it was
self-defense are these two situations
in your mind a breakback point a straw
that broke the camel's back for the
american people
we know that the uh the approval ratings
for black lives matter have plummeted
about a dozen points
in the last couple weeks would you say
this is is this going to be something
that
turns finally uh towards a trump
re-election or is this just
like everything else it'll be out of the
news cycle in six weeks in a week or two
and we won't think about it anymore
no i i think they have some some
permanence to them because i think
they're indicators of these
just large trajectories that don't go
away every day we're seeing uh
escalation alike
uh yeah we have to remember that kyle
would not have been there
no militia member would have marched
into the city
uh no one would have had the the
mccloskeys would not have
felt the need to break out their weapons
if democrat mayors
allowed the police to do their jobs
but but we all know that democratic
mayors
ordered the police to stand down and let
the people riot and loot and then tried
to sanctify that decision
by precisely what the cdc person was
spewing out this nonsense
again that's so unintelligible to
mid-america you know when they talk that
way it doesn't make any sense
they don't think in those terms those
are very urbanized
globalist terms that don't resonate
with the vast majority of the the
regional populations of our country
this this notion that no no we we need
to fight racism
but again in christian terms at
mid-america terms
not fight the the the demonic forces
that that give us racism in the first
place or or to
or no we need to shut you down so as to
protect you from this virus but no you
don't want to fight the demonic forces
through prayer and sacrament
that are giving you the virus in the
first place it's absurd
it's a thoroughly secular conception of
the world that
has no intelligibility to mid-america
none whatsoever well they keep arguing
that donald trump this is the new
talking point they
for about four months they ignored the
violent riots called them protests right
there's no violence this is all made up
and then all of a sudden
uh it almost had don lemon for the first
time in his life got a light bulb above
that empty head of his
on cnn and decided oh no now we have to
talk about this because the polls are
going the wrong way
and suddenly the democrats discovered
violence but they're blaming it on trump
i mean
it is incomprehensible to me that
there's that donald trump is fostering
this kind so donald trump is a secret
agent acting on behalf of
antifa it just strains credulity doesn't
it
it does and again it reminds me just the
other day right we had that chiron
underneath the
uh one of the segments where they were
covering um
uh in wisconsin the all the disasters
and the fires behind him and the chiron
said
fiery but mostly peaceful protests
you know so you just had to laugh there
yes we've got arsonists here but they're
mostly
they're mostly peaceful they're peaceful
arsonists no
uh they finally are admitting these are
riots because they know
nobody bought the silliness the whole uh
peaceful protesters thing
but when all said and done what they're
and of course then they're pivoting to
try to blame it on
trump but when all said and done uh they
performed something for all the nation
to see
democrat after democrat after democrat
intentionally abdicated their law
enforcement
responsibilities people saw that they
made the decision
to intentionally abdicate their law
enforcement responsibilities
that's why militias started marching in
to the cities
in order to protect elderly people
in these urban neighborhoods that are
the primary victims
of this chaos in mayhem and so we would
never have had
a kyle written rittenhouse situation we
would never have had a j
bishop situation we'd not have any of
this
if democrat mayors and governors
simply implemented and fulfilled
their law keeping responsibilities
they deliberately abdicated them there
is
no spinning their way out of that one
and it's the magnitude of this
like you said there's nothing subtle
about that middle america is not subtle
right like you said we're not college
students listening to a lecture on
women's studies
where everything is so thinly shaved
with jargon
this is on the one hand you're
persecuting the
the california just took away the
parking premises
of the church that tried to stay open
they killed their parking i mean
they're going after middle and lower
class
americans with with everything in their
disposal to shut them down
while they're they're literally allowing
murder and arson and riots in the street
you could not have a broader uh
it's almost almost tailor-made if you're
a republican sitting back and watching
this
absolutely and people see it they see
this asymmetry
they know it's a complete uh myopic uh
unequal distribution of justice and they
have no intention of participating in it
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