
Danish: 
Energi er helt essentielt for
den type livsstil, vi har.
Og når folk siger, vi bare skal lave
100% vind og sol, er de nødt til at være
realistiske og sige, er der nogen i
verden, der kan betale for det?
Og jeg synes helt de overser pointen
der, de er ikke villige til at gå ned
og finde ud af, hvad det vil kræve
at faktisk gøre det.
Og med thorium energi, mener jeg, hvis du
begynder at studere det, indser du,
at det kan faktisk godt lade sig gøre.
Og da jeg først læste om det på nettet
tænke jeg, det her er noget vrøvl,
det kan ikke være sandt.
Jeg er Thomas Jam Petersen, jeg er en
af grundlæggerne af Copenhagen Atomics.
Jeg læste en artikel på nettet, der sagde
at en bold på denne størrelse af thorium
kan levere al den energi, jeg har brug for
i hele livet, ikke kun den elektricitet jeg
bruger, men også al den energi der går til
at producere alle de produkter, jeg bruger
al den energi, jeg bruger på at flyve i
flyvemaskiner, køre biler, producere de

English: 
Energy is really essential for the 
type of lifestyle we have.
And when people say, we should just make
100% wind and solar, they have to be
realistic and say, is there anyone in 
the world, who can pay for that?
And I think they completely miss the point
there, they're not willing to go down
and figure out what it's gonna take
to actually do this.
And with thorium energy, I think, if you
start to study it you realize,
that it can actually be done.
And when I first read about it on the
internet, I thought this is bollocks,
this can't be true.
So I'm Thomas Jam Petersen, I'm one
of the founders of Copenhagen Atomics.
I read an article on the internet where
it said a ball this size made of thorium
can supply all the energi I need for my
entire life, not only the electricity I
need, but also all the energi I need to
produce all the products I need,
all the energy I need for flying in
airplanes, driving cars, producing those

English: 
Energy is really essential for the 
type of lifestyle we have.
And when people say, we should just make
100% wind and solar, they have to be
realistic and say, is there anyone in 
the world, who can pay for that?
And I think they completely miss the point
there, they're not willing to go down
and figure out what it's gonna take
to actually do this.
And with thorium energy, I think, if you
start to study it you realize,
that it can actually be done.
And when I first read about it on the
internet, I thought this is bollocks,
this can't be true.
So I'm Thomas Jam Petersen, I'm one
of the founders of Copenhagen Atomics.
I read an article on the internet where
it said a ball this size made of thorium
can supply all the energi I need for my
entire life, not only the electricity I
need, but also all the energi I need to
produce all the products I need,
all the energy I need for flying in
airplanes, driving cars, producing those

Danish: 
biler, producere alle de produkter, det
tøj og alle de bygninger og veje
jeg bruger i hele mit liv.
Det er rigtig meget energi,
det er en enorm mængde energi.
Og al den energi kunne leveres
af denne lille thoriumbold,
og jeg tænkte, det er fantastisk.
Jeg tænkte, det kan ikke være sandt,
men jeg er en ingeniør, så jeg må hjem
og beregne om det er sandt. Det er
måske sandt, men jeg tror ikke på det.
Så jeg tog hjem og regnede på det
og det viste sig, det var ikke,
faktisk ikke særlig svært at beregne.
Da jeg satte mig 15 minutter senere
og det gik op for mig: Det er rigtig nok
var det virkelig et banebrydende øjeblik
for mig, fordi jeg indså:
Det er ikke vrøvl, det er virkelig sandt,
der er al den her energi, og
jeg vidste allerede da, at der er
masser af thorium i verden.
Der er nok thorium til at forsyne
hele menneskeheden i tusindvis af år.
Det ville koste omkring 100 dollars
for en bold på den her størrelse.
Og det betyder, at al den energi, 
du har brug for i løbet af et år
ville koste mindre end én dollar,
og det er fantastisk.

English: 
cars, producing all the products, the
clothes and all the buildings and roads
I need in my entire life.
That's a lot of energy, 
it's a huge amount of energy.
And all that energy could be delivered
from this little ball of thorium,
and I thought that's amazing.
I thought, it can't be true, 
but I'm an engineer, so I have to go home
and calculate if it's true. 
It might be true, but I don't believe it.
So I went home and I did the calculation
and it turned out it was not,
actually not very difficult to calculate.
And when I sat down and realized 15
minutes later: It is true,
it was really a groundbreaking minute for
me because I realized:
This is not bollocks, this is really true,
there's all this energy, and
I knew already then, that there's
lots of thorium in the world.
There's enough thorium to supply the
entire humanity for thousands of years.
It would cost around 100 dollars 
for a ball this size.
And that means that
your entire energy you need for one year
would cost less than one dollar,
and that's amazing.

English: 
cars, producing all the products, the
clothes and all the buildings and roads
I need in my entire life.
That's a lot of energy, 
it's a huge amount of energy.
And all that energy could be delivered
from this little ball of thorium,
and I thought that's amazing.
I thought, it can't be true, 
but I'm an engineer, so I have to go home
and calculate if it's true. 
It might be true, but I don't believe it.
So I went home and I did the calculation
and it turned out it was not,
actually not very difficult to calculate.
And when I sat down and realized 15
minutes later: It is true,
it was really a groundbreaking minute for
me because I realized:
This is not bollocks, this is really true,
there's all this energy, and
I knew already then, that there's
lots of thorium in the world.
There's enough thorium to supply the
entire humanity for thousands of years.
It would cost around 100 dollars 
for a ball this size.
And that means that
your entire energy you need for one year
would cost less than one dollar,
and that's amazing.

Danish: 
Og så begyndte min mission om at
finde ud af, hvorfor vi ikke bruger det og
hvis vi skulle bruge det, hvordan
kunne vi så bruge det på en effektiv måde.
Vi ved alle sammen, at vi skal passe på
planeten, vi skal stoppe med at bruge
fossile brændstoffer, og nogle siger så 
okay, vi kan bare bruge mindre energi.
Men selv de mennesker, der
siger det, vil ikke bruge mindre.
Så jeg mener, hvem skal 
begynde på at bruge mindre?
Fordi energi er i virkeligheden det,
der driver velstand i vores samfund.
Så hvem vil sige, ja jeg går
ned til halvdelen af den velstand,
jeg har i dag, ingen ønsker at gøre det.
Så hvad skal vi gøre, vi skal
finde nogle andre løsninger.
Fusion er en af dem, men de
siger altid "om 20 år."
Men det har de gjort i 50 år nu.
Det kan lykkedes, ja okay, lad os
håber på det, men i mellemtiden,
alle os, der ikke arbejder på fusion,
lad os arbejde på noget andet.
Verden har virkelig brug for
en energiløsning.
Og hvis du har en del af en løsning, synes
jeg, du er ansvarlig for at træde frem
og levere din del, og forhåbentlig 
vil andre mennesker så gøre det samme.

English: 
And then my quest really started to 
find out why are we not using this and
if we were going to use it, 
how could we use it in an efficient way.
We all know that we need to take care
of this planet, we need to stop using
fossil fuels, and some people say okay,
we can just use less energy.
But even the people who say that
wont use less.
So I mean, who's gonna start using less?
Because energy is really what 
drives prosperity in our society.
So who want's to say, 
yeah I'm going down to half the prosperity
of what I have today,
nobody wants to do that.
So what are we gonna do,
we're gonna find some other solutions.
Fusion is one of them, but they're
always saying "20 years from now."
But they have done that for 50 years now.
It might happen, yeah okay, let's
hope for that, but in the meantime,
all of us who don't work on fusion,
let's work on something else.
The world really needs 
a solution for energy.
And if you have part of a solution I think
you are responsible for stepping forward
and supplying your part, and then
hopefully other people will do the same.

English: 
And then my quest really started to 
find out why are we not using this and
if we were going to use it, 
how could we use it in an efficient way.
We all know that we need to take care
of this planet, we need to stop using
fossil fuels, and some people say okay,
we can just use less energy.
But even the people who say that
wont use less.
So I mean, who's gonna start using less?
Because energy is really what 
drives prosperity in our society.
So who want's to say, 
yeah I'm going down to half the prosperity
of what I have today,
nobody wants to do that.
So what are we gonna do,
we're gonna find some other solutions.
Fusion is one of them, but they're
always saying "20 years from now."
But they have done that for 50 years now.
It might happen, yeah okay, let's
hope for that, but in the meantime,
all of us who don't work on fusion,
let's work on something else.
The world really needs 
a solution for energy.
And if you have part of a solution I think
you are responsible for stepping forward
and supplying your part, and then
hopefully other people will do the same.

Danish: 
Du kan bruge thorium på
en række forskellige måder,
men den eneste måde, jeg taler om her
er når du bruger det i en konfiguration,
det vi kalder en smeltet salt reaktor,
indimellem kaldes det også en LFTR.
Det er sikkert, det er billigt, ingen CO2.
Det er nemt at lave.
Grundlæggende brænder man alt brændstoffet,
hvor man i den gamle type atomreaktor
kun brænder 1% af det brændstof,
man kommer i den.
Så allerede der har du en
hundrede gange større effektivitet
end i de gamle typer af atomreaktor.
Derudover, i gamle atomreaktorer
kræves der er stort tryk
og det betyder, at man
er nødt til at bygge store bygninger
og det bliver rigtig rigtig dyrt,
men med det her LFTR type reaktor design,
kan man bygge småt og man
kan bygge det på et samlebånd
præcis som vi bygger 
biler og flyvemaskiner.
Så omkostningerne ved at bygge hvert 
kraftværk er helt anderledes.

English: 
You can use thorium in 
a number of different ways,
but the only way I'm talking about here 
is if you use it in a configuration in a,
what we call a molten salt reactor and
sometimes it's also called a LFTR.
It's safe, it's low cost, no CO2.
It's easy to make.
Basically you burn all the fuel, whereas
in the old type of nuclear reactors,
you only burn 1% of the fuel,
you put into them.
So already there, you have a 
hundred times better efficiency
than in old type of nuclear reactors.
At the same time, in old nuclear reactors
you have to have a lot of pressure
and that means that you 
have to build huge buildings
and that becomes really really expensive,
but with this LFTR type reactor design,
you can build it small and you 
can build it on an assembly line
just like we build cars and airplanes.
So the cost of building every power plant
is vastly different.

English: 
You can use thorium in 
a number of different ways,
but the only way I'm talking about here 
is if you use it in a configuration in a,
what we call a molten salt reactor and
sometimes it's also called a LFTR.
It's safe, it's low cost, no CO2.
It's easy to make.
Basically you burn all the fuel, whereas
in the old type of nuclear reactors,
you only burn 1% of the fuel,
you put into them.
So already there, you have a 
hundred times better efficiency
than in old type of nuclear reactors.
At the same time, in old nuclear reactors
you have to have a lot of pressure
and that means that you 
have to build huge buildings
and that becomes really really expensive,
but with this LFTR type reactor design,
you can build it small and you 
can build it on an assembly line
just like we build cars and airplanes.
So the cost of building every power plant
is vastly different.

English: 
We're a a small team, 
we're ten people working on this and
if you wanted to build a car from scratch
you would need to build the brakes
and make sure that works okay,
you need to build the gearbox
and make sure that works,
and that's what we're doing right now,
we're building all these subcomponents
and testing them and testing them again
to make sure they work, 
and make sure that they're ready for
when we get a real investment 
to build a real power plant.
The next big step is to build a prototype
reactor, like the first reactor and we can
turn it on and show people that it's
working, it's producing energy.
And that would take, I don't know,
maybe five years.
You know, in the long term, what I would
really like to see is that,
that we could make energy a non issue
for the global population of humanity.

English: 
We're a a small team, 
we're ten people working on this and
if you wanted to build a car from scratch
you would need to build the brakes
and make sure that works okay,
you need to build the gearbox
and make sure that works,
and that's what we're doing right now,
we're building all these subcomponents
and testing them and testing them again
to make sure they work, 
and make sure that they're ready for
when we get a real investment 
to build a real power plant.
The next big step is to build a prototype
reactor, like the first reactor and we can
turn it on and show people that it's
working, it's producing energy.
And that would take, I don't know,
maybe five years.
You know, in the long term, what I would
really like to see is that,
that we could make energy a non issue
for the global population of humanity.

Danish: 
Vi er et lille hold, vi er ti mennesker,
der arbejder på dette og
hvis du skal bygge en bil fra bunden,
skal du bygge bremserne
og sørge for at de fungerer godt,
du skal bygge gearkassen
og sørge for at det virker,
og det er hvad vi laver lige nu,
vi bygger alle de her underkomponenter
og tester dem og tester dem igen
for at sikre os, de virker,
og sørge for, at de er klar til
når vi får en reel investering
at bygge et rigtigt kraftværk.
Det næste store skridt er at bygge en
prototype reaktor, den første reaktor,
som vi kan tænde og vise folk, at den
virker, den producerer energi.
Og det ville tage, jeg ved det ikke,
måske fem år.
Du ved, på lang sigt er det, 
jeg virkelig gerne vil opleve,
at vi kunne gøre energi til et non-issue
for den globale befolkning.
