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Joe Dola, Joe, what's happening, man.
Speaker 5 (10m 46s): It's good to be with
you guys talking ball. I guess it's finally
started to feel real like, like a lot of you
people I, I even was slacking. I own a fantasy
football website and I was slacking on getting
like my invites for my hometown leagues, with
my buddies out where I'm the commissioner.
And I, I sent them out two, three weeks later
than I typically did, but I think people are
really starting to get into it. We're starting
to see the interest rise. I don't know if
you guys are seeing your listens go up, but
it does really feel like people are like,
Oh man, they're going to pull this off.
There's going to be an NFL season. And a,
and with NFL comes, fantasy comes bedding
and all, all that glorious stuff that goes
with it. So, I mean, fortunately I've been
preparing the last six months just as I always
would. And we're finally at the doorstep and
I am so glad that we're here. There was times
when we were wondering if we would get to
this point. So fingers crossed another week
until we actually see some real life NFL action.
Now we are the preppers who are finally, we
are excited for the apocalypse to be here.
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 0 (11m 54s): He brings up something
close to my heart too, which is I've been,
I used to as a gambling host of a gambling
podcast, I've still yet to send out my local
pick them pool for this year too. And it is,
it does feel like it's starting to be real.
Like not just like in the last week or two,
like in the last day or two, it seems like
people are like, Oh shit, football's a week
and a half away. Let's go. And I think people
were scared of getting hurt. We, we, you know,
from March until now, we've just had sports
pulled away from us and we get excited and
then it goes away.
And so I think people were like, Oh, I'll
just hang in this NBA bubble. The NBA is safe.
I don't want to put my heart out towards football
to have it broken once again. But now I, you
know, we're two weeks out, less than 10 days
away from opening night kickoff and people
realize, Oh, Hey, the NFL for all intents
and purposes, doing a good job with the COVID-19
again, knock on wood. It looks like things
are going to go and people are ready to just
step on the gas and go into the season. And
of course, fantasy gambling. It's, it's all
happening. I'm looking at my calendar right
now.
I have seven fantasy drafts over the next
10 days. I am so ready for this. I've been
stretching. Let's go see a wonderful time
of the year boys. That's I I'm, I'm seeking
out leagues to join right now. Cause I need
to draft. Yeah, that's a, yeah, that's a rare
position, especially, I'm sure you're in the
same boat where everyone in your life that's
kind of connected to. You was like, Oh, we
got to get Joe in the league. He knows fantasy.
Like, and they're just hitting you up for
questions and whatever. I feel like I'm always
in the point where I'm trying to leave leagues,
you got to put up boundaries and just realize
like, okay, five leagues is enough and beauty.
The beauty of the modern day fantasy football
is I can get my draft fix with best ball.
And let's just say, you know, I have a hundred
best ball teams. That's okay. Because I don't
have to go back and look at them. You don't
have to set the roster. So great. Yeah. So
I have friends, I mean Tom Brawley, who is
my, my colleague over@fantasypoints.com. We,
we call them our August friends are, Oh yeah.
Oh, you know what? You know who I haven't
checked in with in awhile Dolan. I wonder
how he's doing by the way. I have a keeper
league.
Yeah. You don't hear from him like from January
to, and then late August and go to your head
tomorrow or Zeke, let's go, I need know more
than this year. Seek right now. Yeah, exactly.
Jesus. We're talking right now. And we have
Camara on, on the screen, over our shoulders
and Holy shit. First, the four net news was
like a mild tremor compared to Camara potentially
on the move and then Camara. And just as like
right before we hopped into the studio, I
check Twitter and Kamara put out a statement
saying that he's not holding out and he's
not seeking a trade.
So I think maybe he maybe saw the saints bluff.
We'll see where this ends up going. But I,
I'm not going to move him down right now.
But Joe, are you, are you doing anything with
Alvin Kamara, like in a mock draft or if you're
drafting tonight, are you still taking Alvin
Kamara right there in the first,
Speaker 5 (14m 54s): First and foremost? Let
me just,
Speaker 0 (14m 55s): Let me just give a little
bit of a statement on the state of fantasy
because you guys mentioned best fall. The
mock draft is dead. Like, like I'm not doing
Speaker 5 (15m 3s): Mock drafts anymore. If
I want to quote unquote mock draft, I'm going
to do a $3.
Speaker 0 (15m 7s): Yeah. It's not a ton of
high stakes, but I have a chance to win something
in the end. So yeah.
Speaker 5 (15m 13s): And I want people who
are going to take the damn thing seriously
because yeah,
Speaker 0 (15m 16s): Well somebody is somebody
who's a jacket dune. He could mess up your,
Speaker 5 (15m 21s): You can mess up your,
your mock draft. But anyway, here's the deal
with Alvin Camaro. I'm glad I'm not drafting
one of my main leaks tonight because I would
probably move him down my board maybe below
Derek Henry, maybe below Dalvin, Koa, Clyde
Edwards, a layer. Although I'm kind of with
you guys, I think as robust as these negotiations
have been through the media, I mean we've
w Josie Manderson, Oh, they're the saints
are willing to trade them. And then you get
saints, beat reporters like Jeff Duncan and
Nick Underhill.
They're like, well, they, they, they are considering
it. However, they probably would rather get
something done. Charles Robinson said the
saints are looking at the Joe mixing contract
extension, which literally just got signed
about three hours ago. And while McCafe or
excuse me, Kymera is looking as he probably
should at the Christian McCaffrey extension
and as his baseline for what he wants to get
paid. And eventually we're going to end up
somewhere in the middle. But I don't know
about you guys that the first reaction is
to panic when you see something like that,
because if Alvin Camaro gets traded, I mean,
there is no where on planet earth, where maybe
maybe with the exception of the San Francisco
49ers, where his value is going to be, where
it is on the new Orleans saints right now,
because anywhere else he goes at this point,
either the team is going to be worse or the
team is already going to have some sort of
an established back.
Who's going to have a role. So
Speaker 0 (16m 51s): If sequel, excuse me,
if Alvin
Speaker 5 (16m 53s): America traded in the
New York giants, all right, first and foremost,
I don't know why the giants would do that.
But second of all, they're already upstate
one Barkley. If Alvin Camaro got traded to
the Kansas city chiefs, quiet Edwards delayer
is probably going to have a role somewhere
San Francisco. I think you could convince
me that they are not going to put Ramo cert
on the field over Alvin Camaro, but the coup
for fantasy purposes, there's nowhere. He
goes where he's a top five pick, like he is
with the new Orleans saints at this stage.
So we really hope he's not on the moon.
Speaker 0 (17m 23s): Yeah. And especially
with drew Brees and kind of the questions
of arm strength later on in his career that
checked down that three years of back to back
to back 81 receptions, if you're in a full
point PPR and he goes to a place where maybe
he's only going to get 50 targets in that
offense, that's a huge, I mean, yeah, that's
a huge swing and I'm sorry guys. I was just
going to real quick. I'm in an interesting
predicament. I'm in a handful of FFPC main
leagues. And one of my drafts is tomorrow
at 7:00 PM.
And I have, I have the seven pick and I, I
sorry, the nine pick. And I'm sure as shit.
If he, if he starts tumbling to me, I'm 100%
going to take him. And I, and I hope people
overreact to it because I think this is much
to do about nothing right now, because it
is, he's trying to get money. He's in a car,
you know, I get it, but he's going to be on
the field because he understands the best
way to increase his value is play on the saints
offense.
Speaker 5 (18m 16s): Yeah. And for sure. And
I think that the initial reaction like you
guys said is panic, panic, panic. We get all
these tweets coming out, but then, you know,
Charles Robinson, like I said, well, he's
looking at more like 12, they're looking more
12 million. He's looking at 16 million. If
the saints are willing to look at the Joe
Mixon contract, Derek Henry contract, the
12, 12, and a half million. And they're willing
to approach that number, that doesn't scream
to me like, Hey, we better get out from under
this guy while we can that it's it screams
a team that's trying to create some leverage.
I think this is classic negotiating through
the media.
My, I do not want to panic right now, but
if you want to take a guy like Derek, Henry,
maybe even the guy like Joe Mixon, even though
I don't think mixing ceiling is anywhere near
as high as Camaro's. And just say, Hey, I
want that safety. I think I can sign off on
that, but I'm not dropping Camaro out of my
first round. And like you said, if I have
the ninth pick and high stakes draft there,
you could be looking like hours after your
draft and the eight people in front of you
who passed on it might look like morons like
that. That could be the whole, the whole situation.
So I'm not moving Kymera down too much. The
fact that the saints are willing to enter
contract talks that says to me, they want
to get this thing done. This is a team that
is all in for 2020. I think Alvin Camaro understands
that why would they make their team worse?
Speaker 0 (19m 35s): Other side of this is
I would say, it's okay if you want to bump
up Latavious Murray because he, he could be
serviceable regardless. And he right now,
you know, he's, he's going pretty far down
that draft board. So I would imagine if you're
in slow drafts, you're going to start seeing
people pluck him out. He starts showing up
there
Speaker 5 (19m 52s): The next round. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (19m 54s): And I think if you're
a Camara, you just point to, with a taste
of Hill contract and go, come on paying this
guy $10 million. He's he's not a quarterback,
just kind of a guy that hangs around. Alright,
let's get to it. Let's actually talk some
pigs. We're going to go round by round through
the first six rounds. And we're going to each
give out kind of a lock, a dog and a tease.
And the lock being a guy you love in this
round, you think he is ADP makes sense. He's
gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna just be a solid
pick here in that round. A dog is a guy that
maybe even a little, you know, the market
a little down on him, you think he has a chance
to Excel and a tease being a guy he's in that
round right now based off ADP, but you don't
want anything to do with him kind of hands
off.
And the lady at the strip club, don't go back
to that back room, dude, stay away. Kramer.
Let's kick things off. Who do you got is your
round lock dog
Speaker 2 (20m 48s): And teeth?
Speaker 3 (20m 49s): Well, so we're going
to do all three at once. Okay. So, okay. I
like that. I mean, other than the obvious
Christian McCaffrey, Joyce switch felt a little
bit like you giving out that minus 500 lock
the other day. I I'm going to go a bit of
a zag theory here, and I'm going to say the
lock for me in the first round, the safest
picks are the Michael Thomas diva, Devontae
Adams wide receivers because of the floor
that they're going to provide with that target
share. And although it kind of completely
clashes with my idea that you have to come
out of the first three rounds with two running
backs.
I do think when I'm sitting on the back end
of some of these drafts, I find myself debating
running backs. I'm trying to convince myself
on verses receivers. I know we're just going
to be stone-cold stud. So I'm kind of cheating
the lock in the first round, but that would
be my angle there. My dog is 100% and I'm
probably stealing your guys, Sean that's Austin.
I Eichler, I love, I love his ability to produce
here. And I've had a couple of opportunities
to take him in the 12, 13 spot pairing with
another guy. I really like his upside here.
I, I'm not sure.
I believe in Justin Jackson taking much away
from him. And I think the way tie rod plays
ball, he's going to be involved. He's going
to be catching the ball. I just love his,
his, his energy last and last guy. The T's,
it's kind of a smattering of two guys, but
I'll limit it to one. And that's Edward Tulare.
You get can't when you're drafting the first
round, Sean, but you can lose it. And I think
when you go all in on a guy that you're not
really sure who the handcuff is, you know,
the reason I would say like Dalvin cook is
a safer play here, even though he's an injury
risk to, you know, the handcuff is with Edwards
Hilaire.
I think you gotta take a shot on a couple
of guys in a Tandy read. It could be a guy
that's off the roster right now. So I love
what he did in LSU. I love the concept of
him in that offense. I'm not willing to mortgage
my fantasy team on him this year.
Speaker 2 (22m 40s): Yeah. Kramer I'll pick
up from there. My teas is also Clyde Edwards,
Hilaire. I just think the market's overreacting
a little bit based on, on, on, you know, him
being in the middle of the first round and
some ATPs. It seems like if you want cloud
Edwards Hilaire, you have to draft him in
round one. You look at Leshawn, McCoy's rookie,
a guy that they got in the second round high,
second round, which is, you know, up there
for Andy Reed and running backs. Even he,
and he had a good rookie year. He had 637
rushing yards, four touchdowns and 40 receptions.
So yeah, that's a great rookie year, but that's
not first round fantasy potential.
And even if Edwards Hilaire beats at, by a
decent chunk, I just think the chiefs don't
lock in on two, one running back and they
have so many other pass catchers. I think
it's just going to tough. It's just going
to be tough to get up there. Points wise.
My dog, of course, miles Sanders. He's even
dropping a little bit because of the soft
tissue injury. But if you read the Eagles
beat reporters every day, which I do, they're
not scared at all. He's going to have a head
Speaker 3 (23m 37s): Second, second round
of a best ball draft I did last night.
Speaker 2 (23m 40s): Yeah. And I'm putting
them in the first round. Again, some of these,
you know, maybe it's kind of a little all
over the place with ADP, but
Speaker 0 (23m 46s): The fact that the Eagles
didn't sniff at Devonta Freeman, or even Leonard
Fernet, any of these go away for them to sign
lender for net. Well, he's on the Steelers,
signed them. Oh, okay. Any other, they haven't
looked at any other running backs. So that
to me says, they're completely fine with miles
Sanders and the lock don't overthink it. Christian
McCaffrey, Teddy Bridgewater. He's just going
to be checking down to him all day. And that's
even a fun, like best ball stack. The Teddy
Bridgewater, Christian McCaffrey, easy completion,
PPR wheelhouse, Joe, what are you doing here
for your lock dog?
And T's in guys for the first round? Well,
I will
Speaker 5 (24m 24s): Watch like your cohost.
And I was thinking Christian McCaffrey is
a little too obvious to be my lock. So my
lock is actually going to be Derek Henry.
I think he's the safest pick on the board.
And this is shocking for me because I, I was
a day or Derek Henry and Ty truth, or I guess
he would say I was a hater for a couple of
years. And it just turns out their academies.
Rupp was completely misused in Tennessee.
He is not a rotational back. He is a true
hammer, bell, cow. And I, and we're hearing
from people in the organization that he is
going to be used more on the screen game this
year.
Now I don't expect him to catch 90 passes
like an Austin Eckler but just 30 passes.
Plus he's the best bet in the NFL. We get
300 carries. That is a safe pick. And I am
totally fine. Moving him into the top five.
If you want to bump Alvin Camaro down with
this contract dispute, my dog is miles Sanders.
I, I totally agree. The, I am. I am told from
people close to the organization. This injury
is nothing to worry about by the way. He also
dealt with hamstring last year in training
camp. And though he got off to a slow start.
I don't think it had anything to do with his
hamstring. He was just acclimating to the
NFL. You can get this guy at the one to turn.
He was the number three running back over
the final six weeks of last season behind
only McCaffrey and Saquon Barkley. And my
T's the guy I'm fading. It's Michael Thomas.
And the reason is not because of Michael Thomas
it's because I want one of these running backs.
I will, I will take up. Michael Thomas is
objective only a safer pick than Joe Mixon,
but I will take Joe Mixon if I have to with
Michael Thomas falls, because I want one of
these running backs.
So Michael Thomas of the guys with the first
round ADP, I might look foolish for that,
but I think he is the guy I like. They offer
front ATPs for a reason. You have to, you
have to ding somebody and I'm going to ding
Michael Thomas because he's a wide receiver
in this instance.
Speaker 0 (26m 19s): Well, it's funny is I
threw them out there yet. I would still probably
not take them in the first half of the day.
It is. I've been experimenting back into the
draft, taking double wide receivers, seeing
how it turns out later. And I just don't love
that third and fourth tier of running back.
So I hear you. I think you, I think from a
game theory perspective, it's hard to not
grab a running back in the first two rounds.
Kramer, what are you, what are you doing?
Round two lock dog and T. And this is where
I'm going to, I'm going to go right to that
position and say,
Speaker 3 (26m 44s): The lock to me is Julio
Jones. That offense is going to go off. I
think you could argue D hop. I equally don't
quite understand why he's sliding to the end
of it. When I can get sake one and D hop.
That feels strange. But Julio, again, I'm
zigging away from the fact that you're probably
gonna want to take a running back, but because
of that, because everyone knows that these
receivers are gonna slide down the board.
I think Julio is a lock to produce. He produces
every goddamn year. I don't see this year
being any different unless you're a Matt.
Ryan is already fallen off the cliff.
I think he's got a year or two more. So maybe
this is the last hurrah, but the defense is
still going to suck. So Julio, I, I, I do
like as my lock here, my dog, depending on
where you're looking at the ADP, he's not
always a guy that's going to be in your round
two, but I'm okay if you want to reach for
him at the end of the second round. And that's
James Conner, again, there's speculation that
four net could end up in, in Pittsburgh. I
don't know. I, the messaging out of Pittsburgh
feels a little bit like Jay James Connor is
in for a year.
He's quote unquote in the best shape of his
life, which always scary to read. Cause that's,
that's about as cliche as they come. But I
would say he's one of the last running backs
at this point where I'm feeling like excited
to be drafting him. And then my tease for
this round. If God forbid you're in a round
where someone's trying to just, don't take
a quarterback in the second round. So I'll
Lamar Jackson, Patrick, my home's, whatever
you want to throw in here. I'm guessing they're
both right in that fringe. End of second round.
I just stay away. Don't be smart. There's
lots of quarterbacks this year.
Don't let the quarterbacks entice you.
Speaker 2 (28m 18s): Well, for my round two
lock, I am going Austin. Eckler I mean, you're
right. He's right there at that 1213. So kind
of depending on what ADP you're looking at,
but he's a stud, I love it. I love Eckler
and you know who else loves Eckler Anthony
Lee. Like if you watch hard knocks he's, he's
bragging. Like this guy is easily. This is
what this is effort. And if you're bringing
in Tyler, Tyra Taylor or Justin Herbert, you
want to give that guy easy completions and
Austin Eckler is the guy. I don't see them
hyping up. The other running backs a lot.
And it just seems like Austin, Eckler's just
going to get a ton of volume.
And even if, and their defense is pretty good.
So I think they're going to be in games where
they wanna, you know, pound the rock, give
them easy completions, get the screen game
going. My dog is Aaron Jones. I think the
fantasy market as a whole, maybe getting a
little too cute with the fact that Aaron Jones
is set for such a major aggression, but you
look at that green Bay packer off. It's like,
he's still going to be a big part of it. Le
Flore loves running the ball. I mean, yes,
they drafted AGA Dylan, but I beg you to look
at the local green Bay beat reporters and
find anyone writing an article about AGA Dylan.
That just isn't about his legs. And it's just
like, he has big legs. Not like he's figuring
out the offense he's going to be involved
in the passing game. I think Aaron Jones is
kind of just, people are like out thinking
this, the guy had a ton of production and
yet maybe he doesn't, he's going to have some
touchdown regression. But even if he does,
I think he's a decent play in round two. My
T's Deandre Hopkins Kramer. I'm going out
on the Andrea Hopkins. There's a lot going
on with this contract. To me, the biggest
issue with Deandre Hopkins is going from one
team to the other, right?
Like you watch the Andrew Hopkins in Houston.
Why was Deandre Hopkins so good? Because when
you throw him the ball, he was always covered,
but he always made the catch. And I think
that's going to be tough for a guy like Kyler
Murray to develop that chemistry. And we see
it all the time. When a receiver goes from
one team to the next their fantasy production
dips. I think it's just going to take a while
to get used to the idea of like, okay, I'm
dropping back to pass. Deandre Hopkins is
definitely covered. I still have to throw
him the ball. And without any preseason, I
think they're going to get off to a slow start.
So he's still going to have a decent year,
but I think round two, you can find, I own
Deandre Hopkins this year, Joe, what are you
doing in round two here,
Speaker 5 (30m 32s): First and foremost, I
want to lead off and say, I kind of agree.
I'm not drafting a quarterback in this round,
whether it's my homes or Lamar Jackson, but
I couldn't bring myself to call them teases
because they're obviously league winning type
of guys. Just not my strategy. My lock is
Tyree kill 'em. If you want to invest in the
chief's office, maybe you didn't get a piece
of Clyde Edwards, a layer in the first round,
I would take Tyree kill. I think he's due
for some positive touchdown regression. I
think, especially in best ball. He's my favorite
pick in this range.
If you want a guy who probably gives you a
really high ceiling, but also with Dixon floor,
my dog is George Kittle. And when we look
at the San Francisco 49ers receiving core,
it has taken a hit here in the preseason phase.
Even though there's no preseason, Brandon
was burning it up and training camp, he goes
down with a hamstring injury, might be a little
slow off the Mark Debo, Samuel still isn't
practicing might be ready for week one. But
if he is, he won't be a hundred percent. I
think JJ Nelson got hurt.
Richie James got hurt. So there are a lot
of targets here that are going to be filtered.
George Kittles way. Some people Scott at drafting,
a tight end early, I'm more willing to do
that than draft quarterback early. MIT's I'm
going to have to agree. It's Deandre Hopkins.
You know, when he first, when he first got
to this team, I was like, you know, I'm not
going to downgrade them all that much. And
then you look at all the weapons. They have
the backfield. It's good to man backfield
with Kenyan Drake and chase Edmonds.
You have Larry Fitzgerald. Who's going to
get targets. You'll have Christian Kirk, who's
going to get targets. Andy is a Bella. They
have Keyshawn Johnson. I just don't think
he's going to dominate targets the way he
did in Houston. I think he's going to have
a good season, but I think he's going a little
bit too high. There are receivers going in
the third and fourth round. I liked better.
Speaker 2 (32m 22s): Cool man. I'm so, so
sad in the locker. Well, it's, what's allowing
me to get him with Christian McCaffrey, get
him with Saquon Barkley. So I'm okay with
it because you know, in traditional years
he would be towards the end of the first round,
early second round guy. So he's already dropping
50% down the board. Yeah. You're making
Speaker 3 (32m 40s): Me sad. I disagree. I,
I stand.
Speaker 2 (32m 43s): This is where you gotta,
you gotta, you know, we're right up against
it. We got it. We got to get some hard opinions
locked in round three Kramer,
Speaker 3 (32m 50s): What are you doing? Well,
this is around where I I'm going to stay with
receivers. And I'm smitten for the lions.
You know this? Yes, Sean, Kenny, Kenny Galladay
is a guy that I am all in on this year. I
love, I love you. If you went running back,
running back, like you probably should. Like,
I just did my slow main event team Shaun.
I went, I went cook. I went Aaron Jones and
then I got gala in the third round. I love,
I love his ability to produce even with shitty
quarterbacks last year, Stafford, as we've
talked about on the podcast, Sean was the
best quarterback.
One of the best, depending on which metric
you use in the first half of the season. So
hopefully they can stretch that out for a
full year. We can see Kenny dot gala day on
full display. My dog, he's kind of in this
range, he's kind of slipping a little further
down and that's Chris Carson at this point,
let's stop trying to pretend like Seattle's
going to be anything more than a team that
tries to run the ball for the first three
quarters and then unlocks Russell Wilson in
the fourth. Chris Carson, Chris Carson is,
is 100% going to see volume. And we, we give
other people a run for getting volume.
And yet Chris Carson seems to be falling a
little further than he should. And for my
team,
Speaker 2 (34m 1s): I just don't, I,
Speaker 3 (34m 2s): This might be around early
for the teas, but I just see it in the a and
the FFPC I'm seeing it constantly. I don't
get Jonathan Taylor being so high up the board.
When I watched Marlon Mack, I watched that
that's a crowded backfield to be investing
a third round pick and this running back,
I get it. He was a great collegian. I just,
I'm not really, really willing to invest this
capital here. So he's going to be my teas.
You can get Mack like six rounds later, five
rounds later. I don't know
Speaker 2 (34m 28s): For me, for my LOC, he's
just returned back at bears practice. There
was some worry that he was nicked up and,
and maybe he had been sliding a little bit,
but Alan Robinson, I think he's going to have
a huge year. Why are you shaking your head?
Raj Mitchell Mitchell too risky. I mean the,
you know, Nagy won't even announce the starter.
AKA Nick folds is coming in and Nick foals.
I think Alan Robinson is the perfect Nick
foals quarterback. He's great at the jump
balls and Allen Robinson has put up great
fantasy numbers in spite of having Mitch and
Blake Bortles.
The key is he's not QB dependent. I love him
there by dog Juju Smith Schuster. I think
he has a huge bounce back year with big Ben
looking healthy. I mean, we had her, we had
her boy on Merrill Hodge. You said he went
on that, that bear hunting trip with big Ben
at high elevation. He was doing fine.
Speaker 3 (35m 18s): I have no problem with
11 at 11,000 feet. They put
Speaker 2 (35m 21s): Juju back into the slot.
I think that's the best spot for him. And
big Ben is coming in after a year off. Who
does he have chemistry with of this receiver
group? It's Juju Smith Schuster. So I think
he's going to be involved heavy. My T's a
guy I want no part of this year and fantasy
Melvin Gordon, Melvin admitted that he's having
trouble with the elevation in Denver. That's
not a guy I want to be drafted and he's had
a rib injury and just throw in the fact that
like Phil Lindsey has looked really good.
I mean, there's a world where maybe Phillip
Lindsay has an Austin Eckler type year where
Melvin Gordon's out early.
And then Phillip Lindsay comes in and plays
really well. I mean, felt Blitzie runs the
ball hard. Maybe he's not as dynamic pass
catcher, but I I'm, I'm just not same principle
showing you can get Lindsey six rounds later,
which is insane. And is there a world where
Phillip Lindsay has more fantasy points at
the end of the season than Melvin Gordon?
Certainly. Yeah. Joe, what are you doing here
in round three?
Speaker 5 (36m 15s): Oh man, I have some disagreements
with, but I do have an, a major agreement.
My lock is Allen Robinson. He has been my
favorite third round pick by far. And we were
just talking about, Oh, Kenny Galladay, got
it done with shitty quarterbacks. Alan Robinson
called 98 pass slash 98 and said what you
want about Nick falls? He's an upgrade on
Metro Stravinsky. And I think falls is gonna
win that job. So I, I I'm in on Allen Robinson.
Here we go. My dog is Jonathan Taylor.
Ooh. Okay. Because I think some people are
going out of their way to find a reason to
knock them. And it is easy. It is maybe not
out of your way. It is easy to say Marlon
Mack and Naim Heinz are there. And then I
just look at razor principle. It's what I
said to myself when they drafted Jonathan
Taylor in April and I'm sticking with it,
razor. This is the best offensive line in
football. Jonathan Taylor is a monster talent.
They're going to run the hell out of the football
with Phillip rivers at quarterback. I think
he's the guy.
And I think he's the guy earlier than most
people are thinking my teas. Talk about a
guy. I want zero. Part of, if we recorded
this two days ago, it would have been Leonard
Fournette who in round three was like the
dumbest you could have possibly made. It was,
I'm actually upset. They did this so soon
because I wanted more fish in my leagues to
drop on the forehead. But, but it's talk early.
Yeah. I mean, look, the Rams eight, $10 million
a salary just to get rid of them.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37m 48s): What more do you need
to know about the guy
Speaker 5 (37m 50s): Just to get rid of them?
And I understand there might be the role there,
and this is anecdotal, but I I'm going to
go to an anecdote because we're on a podcast
and people here, aren't here to listen to
a cell stories. Todd Gurley had like 1100
yards from scrimmage and 14 touchdowns last
year. I never once regretted not drafting
him because I fully faded him last year too.
And what are the chances he's going to have
more fantasy points than 1100 yards from scrimmage
in 14 touchdowns this year. I just don't see
it like, like, give me, give me Jonathan Taylor,
10 times out of 10 over Todd Gurley.
Give me Melvin Gordon, 10 times out of 10
over Todd Gurley. Because I think Melvin Gordon
is going to get the calorie rich fantasy touches
in, in the Denver backfield for a little bit
of a disagreement there, but give me anybody
in this range over Todd
Speaker 3 (38m 36s): Gurley, that is a losing
pick in my opinion and quick nugget. Because
for, for, even though I shy through shade
on Taylor, I do in basketball, especially
you can actually corner the market on that.
Like if you look at just the Colton Niners,
right? Two of the premier running games in
football, you can effectively corner the market
by investing maybe a fourth round, Ron Taylor
pro, maybe a third now and then pulling Mack
and Heinz later, you can also go most are
in Coleman and try to corner that. I think
it's pretty interesting in the, in the theory
perspective, because with the reason you can
argue for Taylor, well, at least the deeper
leagues is I know where Mac is going and I
know the equity I need to spend on the handcuff
and spending a third and a ninth rounder to
corner the market on the best offensive line
in football.
Isn't a bad strategy. So
Speaker 4 (39m 24s): Yeah, I agree. Just being
all out on a curly and for net one, nothing
to do with them.
Speaker 3 (39m 29s): I have zero shares of,
I literally I have, I have close to a hundred
best ball drops. Zero four net sheriffs.
Speaker 4 (39m 35s): Yeah. When we did the
DK a best ball draft, I was picking like Chris
Thompson in like the 1819 rounds because he
has a history of catching a PPR balls in the
Jay Gruden offense. And I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 3 (40m 41s): What are we looking at
here? Well, again, if you're, if you went
running back, running back and you took a
receiver in the third round, you're probably
looking at this tier of pass catchers and
saying, yes, please, whether it's Ridley,
whether DJ Moore fell, I'm going to call my
lock someone a little different. I'm going
to say DK Metcalf. I know you like them a
lot, Sean. I just, the way that Russell Wilson
and this offense goes, I know people still
like Tyler Lockett. I, his ADP is close to
Metcalf's. I just think Mac half is in for
a big year. And I absolutely love him in this
space. If the, the more Ridley folks have
come down, my dog has Sutton period.
I have Sutton in my top 10 for receivers and
you can get them in the fourth round, which
I, I, I enjoy, I know there's questions about
lock. There's some other mouths to feed there,
but I think Sutton is on his way to being
one of the elite receivers in this league.
So I think this could be the last year we
see him go in that third, fourth round range.
And then for my,
Speaker 2 (41m 35s): My T's Sean, it's obviously
going to be loving on bell. Yes. You just,
you know, the, the thing that really turned
me off, cause I was, I was the opportunity
guy. And then I, then I saw the news about
Frank or outperforming, loving on bell. And
it's like, well, okay, that, that shouldn't
be happening Frank or got drafted in 2005.
Yeah. I mean, he's of course my T's as well,
levy on bell. What no part of him stay away
when you see the player and coach that already
had a history of not liking each other, duking
it out on Twitter, where they said love on
Bell's being arrested for his hamstrings.
And he goes, no, man, my hamstrings are fine.
Adam gaze is a vindictive guy. Apparently
doesn't know how to use his players. I mean,
just look at Ryan Tannehill, as soon as he
left Miami and what he did in Tennessee, that's
all you need to know about Adam gaze. He,
I just don't think he's going to give levy
on bell. The ball Frank Gore could end up
with more points and levy on bell. So want
no part of him for my dog. I'm kind of a warming
up to DJ Chark. I think Jacksonville is going
to be in the position where they're going
to be down big. Cause that defense has just
been completely gutted.
Now you take out letter for net and you know,
Gardner Minshew has a real connection with
this guy. I think they're going to be facing,
you know, how often are they going to be going
up against prevent garbage points will be
had down there in Jackson. And it feels like
similar to a season that Jamis Winston have
where Gardner just, he has nothing to lose.
He's going to throw it all over the place.
And I think DJ Chark is a interesting grab
there. And of course I'm lockstep with you
all my lock, DK, Metcalf love all the work
he did in the off season with Russell Wilson
and, and he learned how to think unlimited
show me well.
And he also, besides having an awesome rookie
year, he finished super strong. I mean, he,
you know, just dominated the Eagle secondary
in that wild card game. And I think he's just
going to pick up where he left off last year.
I love the connection with dangerous. So yeah.
Give me DK Metcalf. Therefore the lock as
well. Co-signing that one, Joe, what are you
doing here in round four?
Speaker 5 (43m 33s): So my lock and round
four is the guy who I think can lead the NFL
in targets. I, I kind of view him similarly
to how I view Devontae Adams this year. Just
going to rounds later two to three rounds
later, that's Adam feeling. I think he could
get, get 150, 160 targets. He, he and Alan
Robinson have been like an auto combo for
me and the third and fourth rounds just dominating
targets and feeling has the advantage of having
the rapport with Kirk cousins. My dog is Robert
Woods. He's perennially underrated.
I think this is a huge bounce back year for
the Ram offense. And if they continue to go
with a lot of 12 personnel with Tyler Higbee
and Gerald Everett out there, Robert Woods
might benefit more than Cooper cup. And my
T's LaVey on bell. Just once again, like the
running backs in this range, I have to talk
myself into drafting them, which is why I
like going with running backs earlier in the
first couple of rounds, LaVey on bell. Just
I was more into him than I was into girlier.
Fordanet I'll admit that, but still there
are, there are sexy wide receiver picks you
can make in this range and you don't have
to waste a pick on somebody like living on
bell.
Speaker 3 (44m 46s): No, I mean, you nailed
it. This range of running like the David Johnson's
of the world, just like I want nothing to
do with them. So I, it's hard for me to see
myself in a seriously going anything, but
running back, running back. Yeah. And get
those running backs, the high price running
backs out of the way early and then just load
up on, you know, rounds three through six,
just go heavier receiver and then kind of
get a, you know, a quarterback late. That
would be the way I would go. Kramer, what
are you doing in round five? Well, you know,
let's start, let's start with the teas because,
and maybe this is we're a little late on this,
but it's Montgomery.
I, I think if you look at any of his metrics
last year, you might use the crutch of saying,
Hey, this guy had no offensive line. He was
getting hit in the back field. He also had
no ability to make yardage after contact.
He also had no ability to do any of the things
that you would expect a plus running back
to do. Now he's hurt. Want nothing to do with
him, Sean, for my dog, it's Devante Parker.
He's, we've highlighted all the reasons why
you want some Devante Parker this year. And
it really it's like, Hey, Fitzpatrick likes
him, B who the fuck else is there C Miami,
another team that should be slinging the rock.
As long as Fitzpatrick is out there, they're
going to be slinging it early and often. And
from my lock, you know, the more, the more
I've looked into this, the more I just, I,
I just don't understand why Keenan Allen continues
to fall. I understand he's not going to have
the biggest upside, but we're talking targets.
And I know I like Hunter Henry a lot. And
I know I called out Eckler earlier, but Keenan
Allen gets open on every play. He gets open
on every play and whether or not you like
tie rod or Herbert, or you don't, he gets
open on every play. And I just don't see the
volume going down that much for him to be
now dropping a couple of years ago, he was
a second round pick.
And then he became a third, fourth round pick.
And now he's dropping into the bottom after
the fifth round. I just think if you're going
to, to your point, if you go running back,
running back, you snag those two and they're
third and fourth round wide receivers. And
you can add a Devontae park. You can add a
Keenan Allen to that. I it's just hard, so
hard not to. So Keenan Allen is my, my lock
and I think the four so high, if you're making
a case for Keenan Allen, just watch hard knocks.
Anthony Lin is just kind of in love with that
guy saying, you know why I say feed Keenan
Allen?
Cause Keenan Allen blocks. And that's he's
Anthony. Lindsay's like a guy when he says
something, he means it he's very straightforward.
And certainly I think the volume could be
there. People seem to be out maybe on the
quarterback situation. That's probably why
he's falling. Maybe the age thing, but James
gone now the dude, I don't know. I just, it
just feels like I watched so many chargers
games and he's so involved. And then when
he's not involved, they suck. So my, for my
lock, I'm going to
Speaker 2 (47m 30s): Keep it simple goes Zack,
IRTs here again. You saw Jaylen. Rager is
banged up. KRA Kramer thinks it's a Homer
play, but it's accurate is just going to get
a fifth round. That's great. Yeah. A shit
ton of targets, Carson Wentz. They're going
to be throwing the ball a bunch. And again,
out of all the other receivers, he had to
Sean Jackson for one game, Greg ward, maybe
get some catches. But other than that, it's
just going to be, Zach hurts. Zach hurts.
Zach hurts for my dog. I'm going Kareem hunt.
I've been huge on Kareem hunt in the whole
preseason. Then you have Nick Chubb having
a concussion issue already in camp.
I think Kareem, Hunt's going to catch a bunch
of passes and he's just, I, you saw how he
finished that season last year. I think he's
just going to be involved in this Stefanski
offense. They're going to run a lot of two
running-back sets. I think he's just going
to be pretty heavily involved. I'm in on him
for my teas. I don't want any part of Devin
Singletary. I'm just kind of out on him. I'm
kind of getting Sean, no one circles, the
wagons. And I think I liked Josh Allen. I
think Josh Allen is going to get a lot of
those Frank or inside the 10 running carries,
or it's going to be Zach Moss, Devin Singletary.
He's having fumbling issues in camp. And I
think just Zach Moss is going to eat out a,
you know, take some of his production away.
So I I'm, I'm staying away from Devin Singletary
in round five, Joe, what are you doing? Round
five.
Speaker 5 (48m 51s): I'm going to start with
my T's cause I completely agree. Devin Singletary
is my T's. I was fully fading him even before
recent camp reports that suggest Zach Moss
is looking amazing. Their ATPs have squeezed
Devin Singletary was once a fourth round pick
and Masa 10th rounder. Now it's more like
a fifth and a seventh or an eighth, but I'm
still in on Moss at the discount relative
to Devin Singletary. He was a more productive
receiver in college than Singletary.
And that's where it looks like he's been doing
a really good job in training camps. So Zach
Moss is the guy I want there. Terry McLaurin
is my lock. Who else is getting the targets?
I am a little bit concerned that he's going
to get double teamed a ton. I'm not a huge
Dwayne Haskins guy, but I think he's a special
talent. And he showed that last year. And
one of your guys, one of your locks, I'm going
to have his mind dog. Zach hurts. Why is he
a fifth round pick?
Speaker 2 (49m 47s): Yeah, it, you know, there
is that
Speaker 5 (49m 50s): I'm slipping to the sixth.
Like, and I think it's because Zachary is
boring. Like he doesn't get a lot of yards
after the catch, like a Travis, Kelsey or
George Kittle, but the guy has, I mean, he
is legitimate. Look at his numbers. He is
a hall of fame producer through seven NFL
seasons. And with, with jam and record, dang,
I don't think it's serious, but Carson Wentz
is always going to lean on Zach Hertz. And
if the Sean Jackson is healthy and if they
can get one more of those speed guys, whether
it's rager or John Hightower, maybe Al Sean
Jeffrey comes back in September and they can
just get somebody on the outside who can create
separation.
Speaker 0 (50m 28s): That's just going to
open up more room underneath Zach Hertz in
the fifth round. He's become a value simply
because he's boring, but he's still in his
prime. And he is a hall of fame producer to
this point in his NFL career. Yeah, no, it's,
it's crazy that he's dropping into Ellis Goddard.
That's why the people are like, Oh, there's
this? No, there's another thing that could
be, that could be some of the concern, but
they run a ton of 12 personnel. And I think
there's enough to go around for those two
tight ends. I think also, and you said it
it's kind of a boring play like you probably
already had. Zack hurts a couple of times
on your fantasy and redraft leg.
Some people there is some times where people
want to hype up rookies or interesting situations
just cause they imagine this crazy ceiling.
Whereas Zach Hertz is just a reliable, like
heavy production. Marvin Harrison can under
him back in the day, whoever auto drafted
would always get more of an Harrison cause
no one would ever want to take more of inheritance.
You've already had them a bunch. They want
something new and shiny, but you know, sometimes
production is production Cramer. I'll let
you kick things off here in the sixth round,
closing it out, luck, dog and teas. What do
you got got two of my guys kind of fit into
the mold of what you're talking about.
And that's, you know, everyone is grabbing
AIG green. We know nothing about what AGA
green is going to do on the football field
this year. But we do know that Cincinnati
is probably going to throw the ball a lot.
We do know that Cincinnati has about the solid
and my locks, Tyler board. I think, you know,
you might even Miguel be able to get them
round later because my tease is AIG green
because I keep, I keep participating these,
these basketball drafts where I see both those
guys go on the same round and it's like, who
is taking AGA green over Tyler Boyd.
I get it. You remember him as being this great
receiver. But again, I would rather take the
guy who I know is going to get the targets
this year and for my dog, James White. Alright.
You know, I, I considered throwing out Lindsey
when he's going even further at James James
Boyd is, you know, you can try to stab on
the other guy. You can try to figure out is
it gonna be Harris, Michelle, maybe for nuts
going to come to town. Maybe you're going
to hear Rexburg head's name again. And he's
going to randomly have two games where he
scores four touchdowns. But to me, James White,
it feels like this offense is going to be
tailor made for a lot of James White in the
passing game.
So to be able to get James White in your sixth,
seventh round, you know, to be your third
running back, if you went with that running
back, running back three straight pass catchers.
Now back to the running back, you can do worse.
So my dog's going to be James White. Yeah.
And wait, did you say your T's Kramer? Hey
Jay green. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh, you jumped run
for the Hills and James White. He could be.
And now certainly he's not going to have Christian
McCaffrey numbers, but in the same way where,
you know, cam Newton checked down a bunch
to the running back and got the running back
involved in the passing game. I wouldn't be
shocked if James White has a ton of PPR points
for my lock Kramer, where again, matched up
here, I'm also locking up Tyler Boyd.
He's in the slot. And I mean, you, all you
have to do is go back to a Joe burrow at LSU
who is in the slot there, Justin Jefferson,
111 catches
Speaker 2 (53m 26s): Senior year at L or junior
year at LSU for Justin Jefferson, 18 touchdowns.
I mean, certainly Tyler, Boyd's not going
to get that, but if you're a rookie quarterback
throw into the slot or the tight end, those
usually are your safety blankets were getting
to the outside and getting those number one
receivers that sometimes takes a little bit
more work and it just ends up being easier
to throw. So I like Tyler Boyd there. My dog,
again, this is a guy you've probably had a
million times, certainly there's injury concerns,
but in round six, I I'm, I'm rolling the dice
here. Give me a little taste of T Y Hilton.
The, the buzz out of a Indy camp there is
that he's showing sparks of chemistry with
Phillip rivers, Phil rivers playing, you know,
behind the best offensive line of his career.
And he loves throwing to the number one receiver.
Like he always gets that number one guy involved.
If they're really jealous, I think T Y Hilton
again, you're, you're rolling the dice a little
bit with the injury stuff, but that's why
he's in round six T Y Hilton could have a,
could have a huge year. And my T's Darren
Waller. I, I don't know. I'm just kind of
out in general on the Las Vegas Raiders offense
here, maybe, you know, now that they lost
Tyro Williams, his PPR, Cheryl go up a little
bit, but why would you take a kind of rolling
the dice on Darren wall or having another
huge year when this Vegas Raiders team is
prime for regression?
When you can get Zachary, it's kind of not
that far off. I mean, who would you rather
have Zach Hertz or Darren Waller? I think
their ADP is too close for me to even consider
Darren Waller. And also the thing I would
call out there too is you would have to take
Darren Waller kind of at the start of a tear
in my book. So you wouldn't be taking Darren
Waller when you could probably wait for some
of these other Titans, whether you fancy Evan
Ingram, whether you fancy Higbee, even Hunter
Henry. So yeah, and I would probably, if you're
gonna, if you're around six and you haven't
gotten like Kittle Kelsey weight, or just
wait and just take to like take a good Secchi
and a Hunter, like take two guys late and
just see who pops a stream, Joe, what are
you doing here in the six?
Speaker 5 (55m 27s): I have three wide receivers
and I have to go with my most drafted player
in all the best balls thus far. My lock is
Hollywood Brown, love my Baltimore Ravens
league, winning potential. All the metrics
suggested a guy who was awesome as a rookie,
even though he was basically hurt the entire
year. I think he's got true explosion potential
and he's available in the fifth and six rounds
off in the sixth. Absolutely love him at that
price.
Speaker 2 (55m 54s): And real quick to that
point, I mean, hardball kind of came out and
said, the next progression in Lamar Jackson's
game is getting the deep ball going. I mean,
that just lines right up with Hollywood brand.
Speaker 5 (56m 4s): And, and I think that's
exactly what they're the run game does the
run game, all those run game concepts that
the defense has have to defend. It sets up
the deep ball and Lamar Jackson can throw
it and he can throw it well, Hollywood Brown
can go get it just as well as anybody in the
NFL. My dog has will fuller. Now I understand
why he's a six round pick because he's never
healthy, but Deandre Hopkins is gone. Whenever
will. Fuller has been on the field with Deshaun
Watson. These two have exploded. There is
serious potential here, and I am willing to
take the risk on Wilf fuller because you're
not really paying up for him.
He's a sixth round pick. You can go and if
need be replace him, my teas it's T Y Hilton
heard a lot this off season that this is somebody
who's a lot of the dings and dents are starting
to take their toll on him. I think they're
gonna run the ball a metric ton this year.
Now I think part of the argument with T Y
Hilton would be, who else are they throwing
it to? It's been kind of a, a quiet camp for
Michael Pittman, Parris Campbell in and out
of the lineup who I think I actually like
him really a lot.
Speaker 0 (57m 14s): He could be a fun, best
baller or deep sleeper for sure.
Speaker 5 (57m 17s): Oh, for sure. But T Y
Hilton, I just wonder if he's getting up there
in age Philip Rivers, doesn't throw the deep
ball all that well anymore. I'd rather take
it maybe and bully me. My, this philosophy
has burned me in the past and we just got
done talking about it with Zachary it's. Oh,
it's kind of a boring pick, but he produces
Matt. My philosophy on this has burned me
in the past, but I'm going to go with the
sexy players in the six round. And there aren't
a lot of them, Hollywood Brown will four,
by the way. And if you want to be safe in
this round, Tyler Boyd, you guys had already
mentioned it.
Tyler board is the safe pick in this round.
And it's the pick I love.
Speaker 0 (57m 51s): Yeah. It seems like he's
going to be the guy getting all the, you know,
getting all that, the target share, right?
I mean, every, every league has those two
or three guys that are just juiced up on rookies
and guys who can have big, make big plays.
So you just have to, you know, AIG green falls
into that category. I watched it last year
and the FPC drafts, I watched people like,
you know, mortgage of fifth, sixth, seventh
round pick trying to, you know, the, and this
is that time of the draft where we, maybe
you take a gamble. Maybe you take a risk.
But to me, there's better risks to be taken
than an AGA green and a T Y Hilton, to your
point, Sean, not to not to continue to shit
on your or your, your, your roll, the dice.
I'm just, you know, you read the right camp
report and you gotta, you know, that's a,
that's a gut handicap. If I ever, like, I
was telling you yesterday, red bull racing,
you know, I'm a big formula one fan. Now they
say don't expect different if you don't do
different. So Sean's doing different. You
got to go against the grain. They're a little
bit, Joe, appreciate you calling into the
podcast. That was a lot of fun. Definitely
a heavy back on some time. Make sure follow
Joe on Twitter at F G underscore Dolan of
course, check out his website, fantasy points.
Check him out on the fantasy fees podcast
with Ross Tucker.
And of course, Sirius XM fantasy. Joe, appreciate
the time, man.
Speaker 5 (59m 6s): Well, thank you guys so
much. I had a lot of fun
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Speaker 6 (1h 1m 2s): Thank you. Happy fantasy
football season. Do you guys as well excited
to be back excited to talk fantasy football
and finally get back to things that matter.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (1h 1m 13s): That's the, you said
it right there. I was having a talk with the,
the gardener this morning. Not, I don't have
a big, it's just a guy who cuts my lawn. I
don't want to seem like I got some well, and
to be clear, he doesn't use the lawnmower
3.0. He uses like an old school using the
lawnmower 1.0. And I was trying to tell him
about the lawnmower three point. Oh, he, he
seemed confused, but yeah. I mean, it's just
having a conversation with him and just hearing
him being like, wow man. Yeah, it doesn't
feel like football is here. And it's really
this, the lack of preseason football, the
lack of us seeing anything more than these
practice reports.
And now we're getting, you know, it's almost
like they're trying to make up for the lack
of preseason with having all this late breaking
news that is going to impact your fantasy
squad. Hopefully you weren't a diabolical
and drafted lender for net because who knows
that situation, I guess could get better.
But man, this Kamara news, terrifying people
are we, we just talked with Joe earlier about
the Camara situation. Adam, if you were drafting
tonight, what would you do if you're sitting
there in the first round middle of first round
and Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 20s): Is there, do you grab
him or do you, or do you stay away?
Speaker 6 (1h 2m 24s): So here's what I'm
looking at right now. We just got some more
news out from new Orleans, from the local
guys talking about how this wasn't contract
related. Really. It was more related to some
injury and he was banged up and he got some
epidural shots and that's what kept him out
the past couple of days. I'm still a little
hesitant. If I'm sitting there maybe at five
or six, I might jump Clyde Edwards, Hilaire
in front of him. If I'm sitting there and
both of them are on the board, but if I'm
taking Alvin Kymera, if I'm there at like
pick 10, I'm having no hesitation about it
because the team that's going to trade for
him is going to want to use him.
If the rumors are true and I'd put a team
like Washington or Miami at the top of that
sweepstakes, and they are two teams who could
really use a running back of his caliber.
If he goes to Washington, I think he will
contend to be the RB too. On the low, low
chance he gets traded, but put him in the
number two slot if he goes to Washington,
because Ron Rivera just gave Christian McCaffrey
and Epic workload and command or gave Christian
McCaffrey ethic workload. And Alvin Camaro
is just as good as Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 30s): And that's a good point,
I think, you know, and you nailed it. I think
even if he gets traded to a less desirable
location, if you're sitting in the back end
of the first round, you're still taking him
because odds are, if a team's trading forum,
they're going to use his services. Now that
being said, though, Sean, I, I think we, we
touched on this earlier. We don't think this
is anything more than a charade, perhaps some
sort of negotiating tactics, perhaps not.
But I think at the end of the day, they both
sides know the best situation is Camara on
the field for the new Orleans saints this
year.
So yeah, they'll get, I I'm again, I have
the nine pick in the FFPC tomorrow night.
If he's sitting there at nine, I'm taking
him. Yeah, I know. That's a silly thing to
say, but I'm, I, I feel like there could be
a chance if this draws out any longer. Yeah,
we'll see. And I have the three pick in a
week and a half after the Thursday night game.
And if, if, if this has not been resolved
by then, I don't know what the do I take Zeke?
No, Ryan, you never take sick. Alright, sorry.
I want to ask I'm selfishly hijacking the
podcast at this point. If you have the three
pick right now, Adam, I asked, are you taking
Kamara?
Speaker 6 (1h 4m 41s): No, I'm going to take
Clyde over to Larry right now. Saquon Barkley
makes me really nervous in New York. Actually
I'd rather have Zeke, but if you really want
to be out on Zeke, take Clyde, Edward Solaire,
especially you could even fade Zeke a little
bit because we know Mike McCoy likes to use
two running backs. Joe judge comes from new
England where they're all about separating
that backfield and Dion Lewis is sitting behind
Saquon Barkley. And if there's somebody Joe
judge knows and is gonna trust it's Deon Lewis,
former consummate Patriot.
I mean, you gotta, you gotta be a little worried
about that. That's gotta be in the back of
your head.
Speaker 0 (1h 5m 20s): You know what? I'm
onto you, Adam, I'm watching the way you operate
and Slack over@asportsgamingpodcast.com slash
Slack. Just, just fluffing up. Sean's love
of, of hating the giants. I look, I think
it's a perfectly believable scenario to say,
Hey, Deon Lewis. He knows what he's doing.
He's a professional. He's going to be on the
field. Joe judge Saquon Barkley has been involved,
has been involved in an insane amount of the
passing offense and camp. Big time year for
sake, quad.
I don't know what I'm gonna get him and I,
Adam, Adam, can't take Hilarie either. I don't
know what I'm going to do in this situation.
I'm, I'm a, I'm really hoping it resolves
itself. Cause I want to take tomorrow. I want
Kamara to be the guy at three, but Jesus,
Adam is a mayor of a pill's mafia. And so
when he heard that I named Josh Allen, the
number one fantasy football quarterback and
made them 12 and four in spite. And Adam did
have issue that we only talked about the bills
for about 10 minutes on the AFCs preview.
But other than that, he is, he is on board.
He is a, the wagons are being circled for
a big fantasy season for the Buffalo bills.
And maybe this guy's your sleeper, but we
just hit on a I'm kind of out a little bit
on Devin Singletary, at least where his ADP
is. I'm leaning more Zack Moss. I like the
upside of, of drafting. Zach Moss later you
follow the team closely Adam, which, which,
what are your thoughts on the running back
situation there in Buffalo?
Speaker 6 (1h 6m 46s): So when we're looking
at the bills backs, it's definitely going
to be a two headed monster and Zach Moss and
Devin Singletary. I mean, you look at how
they used Frank Gore and Devin Singletary.
Last year. Frank Gore led the team in touches
actually with 166,000 saying was, he was just
old man, broken down. He had 16 targets. You
know, Zach Mohs is going to slide into that
role and easily provide some fantasy value.
But you also got to remember Devin Singletary
only played 12 games. Last year started the
last eight and still managed 150 rushes and
41 targets through the air for 180 touches
average in five and a half yards of carry.
He really showed himself to be an explosive
Playmaker. Now, Zach MA's bigger frame might
be a little bit more of a bruiser, but I think
you're doing well to draft both of them. Either
one of them feel free to draft them. You're
going to be safe with both of them. I'm leaning
Singletary and PPR because that Bill's offense
is going to have so many soft spots in coverage
because there just aren't enough defensive
backs to cover Stefan Diggs, John Brown and
Cole Beasley. That's just Josh Allen. If he's
Josh, Allen can be anything close to what
everyone hopes he can be.
The bills are gonna win at least one playoff
game. And I said it last time I was on. If
he takes big strides, this is an AFC championship
caliber team. If not a Superbowl contender,
Josh takes big strike.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 7s): I'm loving it. This
is 2020. We got, we got bills fans with confidence,
kudos to you, sir. That that was a well crap.
That was almost as good as eulogy.
Speaker 6 (1h 8m 17s): See, this is, this
is the kind of stuff y'all could have talked
about. If you spend 10 minutes on the best
team of names again, holding y'all to this.
When we're in the AFC championship game, I
expect wall-to-wall Bill's talk that week.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 30s): We will not, we will
not do the bills short there just for the
record. Sean did have them going 12 and four
winning the division me a little bit more
realistic with my constant prediction of eight
and eight teams in the national football league
this year. So I think, right. I don't think
Ryan has any team in the NFL going more than
11 and five. I promise you Sean, for the NFL
final predictions, I will have all the records
laid out so we can see how silly it looks.
Alright, sorry. Let's get, let's get back
to it. Well, we brought Adam on not only to
make amends for our lack of girls coverage,
but also to talk deep sleepers and we just
call them sleepers, mild sleepers.
And we figured the easiest way to do this
was we'll do one quarterback, two running
backs, two receivers, a tight end, and then
a crazy off the grid. Yes, sleeper. We're
defining a sleeper as for the quarterback,
anyone outside the top 12 ADP running back
outside the top 36, same four receiver outs
at the top 36 and then outside of the top
12 for tight end Kramer, I'll let you kick
things off. I mean, deep quarterback class,
you could go. A lot of places here feels unfair
to me letting me lead off because while I
am smitten with the Detroit lions and I can
tell you, Matt Stafford is a guy that at 13,
sitting at 13, if you want to apply a strategy
of, I don't want to waste a pick on an early
quarterback.
I'll take to see which one does better. Maybe
I'll flip flop ups, but I'm going to go Danny
dimes because Sean fumbles might not count
against you and your fantasy league. He had
a two to one touchdown interception ratio.
Last year, he showed the ability to put up
numbers and the defense doesn't look like
it's that improved. So you can have game script
as the fantasy nerds say. So I think Danny
dimes throwing early and often we've seen
what Jason Garrett can do with some talent
on the offensive side of the ball.
And you have, you know, again, I called it
out and the NFCS preview. The receivers were
not on the field together. A Shepard tape,
slate and Ingram and Saquon Barkley who played
zero snaps together and last year. So objectively
there's some talent there. Denny dimes has
the arm, has the, has the arm talent to do
it. Hopefully Joe judge beat the pussy. I
beat the private school pussy out of him with
those socks filled with soap. But yeah, of
course, I'm going to go Danny dimes with my
sleeper, a quarterback, Adam, what are you
doing at the QB position here?
Speaker 6 (1h 11m 1s): Listen, QB position
super deep this year. You could, you could
go well in a lot of ways, but you gotta be
looking at the number one. Pick Joey B Joe
Morrow in Cincinnati. He was picked number
one for a reason. And last year, the Cincinnati
offense ranked sixth in pass attempts at 616.
And yet they suffered through three games
of Alex Erickson completing under 50%. And
they also suffered through just a Bismal Andy
Dalton season, despite being six, then passing
attempts.
They were 28th and touchdowns in 27th, the
net yards and attempt, you gotta be looking
at Joe burrow to beef up that number, whether
AIG greens back or not. You got Tyler Boyd,
you got T Higgins. You got OD and Tate. Maybe
you got John Ross. You've got Joe Mixon back
and under contract. You have a beefed up on
offense. They're in Cincinnati. If they throw
at 616 times again, anywhere close to that,
you're going to have three receivers getting
targeted a hundred times and Gerald burrow
lighting the world on fire.
And don't forget he can pick up some grit.
He can pick up some yards on the ground with
his legs and enclose. He's probably going
to steal some touchdowns from Joe Mixon
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 10s): And rookie quarterbacks
in general, they end up scrambling a bunch
more than you would normally expect. And that's
certainly going to help real quick fantasy
Valley. I'm a defender of all. Ryan's I think
when you said earlier, Erickson, I think you
meant to say Ryan Finley, who was a pretty,
pretty shitty Ryan last year, but
Speaker 6 (1h 12m 27s): I mean, is there a
difference between Ryan Finley and etc? So
at the end of the day, really
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 32s): He's got some wiggle
and might be able to play slot receiver in
the league and one guy, well, the guy clearly
needs to be playing in the XFL. Well, my guy,
and again, maybe in a 12 team league, you
don't need to go this deep at the quarterback
position. But certainly if you like the idea
of streaming some quarterbacks or don't you
dare say Nate, Seinfeld, no, I'm going to
say a Gardner Minshew baby 26 right now, the
26 quarterback. But he has, he has no concern
about losing his job. They just got rid of
Leonard for net.
And I, again, I think this Jag's defense is
just going to be complete crap and they're
going to be throwing all the time. And you
talk about rushing yards. He was second in
quarterback, rushing yards last year, no one
even talks about it. And he did that meant
you did that in 12 games and 12 starts, he
had 344 rushing yards. I think they're going
to be facing a lot of prevent defenses. And
literally this guy has nothing to lose. Like
they've said, Hey, we're essentially we're
we're tanking. We're going to try and get
Trevor Lawrence where it's loading up on pigs
or taking away any skill players that might
be able to help you.
Do you think he's just going to sit back and
play conservative and be game manager, no
mint. You is anything but conservative. He's
going to throw it around. And I think he's
just going to go for it. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick
wielding a cock that's Gardner Minshew, long
cock Kramer. What are you doing? A of this
sleeper team. It's all right. So it's not,
I'm going to throw his name out. We're not
going to use it cause it's not fair, but arm
stud, now that he's the starting running back
in Jacksonville, I know there's some, some
potential injury or whatever is now the backup.
He could get some run week. If
Speaker 3 (1h 14m 12s): I'm going to stay
away from that, I'm going to, I'm going to
be fair that he's not going to be asleep or
he's going to be shooting up the boards, but
I will throw out a sleeper. And that's why
that's a guy by the name of Tevin Coleman.
I, again, you know, for both the Colts, which
we addressed earlier, kind of relative low
equity to invest in the best offensive line
of football that well, the 49ers are pretty
damn good at running the ball too. And considering
you could, if you want it to, you could draft
most dirt and Coleman with sparing a fifth
and seventh round pick, maybe fifth and eighth
round pick to me, that's crazy Tevin Coleman
while he might not assume the main role ever,
he could assume the Tevin Coleman role, which
can be a productive back, especially if there's
an injury.
Shanahan clearly likes the guy. So I ended
up with a lot of Coleman shares and best ball,
Sean. And I, again, if you just identify the
fact that whoever is going to be carrying
the ball back there is going to have production
because that's what Shanahan does I think
to spare and let me pull it up. He was the
most. Third is, is that is going off as the
24th, a running back Coleman is the 41st.
So you could, you could spare. You could actually,
you could go fifth round or sixth round, most
dirt, and you could come back in the eighth
or ninth round and take at seven, eight, nine
take home.
And you would lock up that backfield. So absolute
sleeper there. Do I, do I give you all three
or all two or just one that we'll just do
one. Adam, what are you doing? RB one for
the sleeper team,
Speaker 6 (1h 15m 44s): Looking at Josh Kelly
in LA chargers, land, Josh Kelly right now,
going off the board is running back 59. But
the thing you really gotta like is that that
chargers offense has 204 vacated running back,
touched touches with the departure of Melvin
Gordon and that doesn't touch Austin. Eckler's
224. That's a massive workload for Eckler
sure that might go up, but everything out
of camp points to that, Josh Kelly has been
the guy that co number one with Austin Eckler
and Justin Jackson has just fallen back to
the occasional third stringer.
So you really got to like this out of UCLA
chip Kelly, you know, guy who knows how to
coach an offense. Didn't get used a ton in
college, but definitely has some potential
than upside there. And the coaches love him
in a tie. Rod Taylor led offense with Anthony
Lynn calling the plays that chargers team
is going to run early, run off.
Speaker 3 (1h 16m 36s): Yeah, it does seem
like it's going to be RV heavy. I mean, I
I'm still high on Eckler, but yeah, I mean,
as a sleeper for sure. And then in fact it
gets nicked up at all. I mean, that, that
could be huge.
Speaker 6 (1h 16m 47s): I mean, you can pick
Josh Kelly, it picked two 35 right now. You
can get them for free at the end of your draft
before you go defense kicker. And if you can
get a guy for free, who's going to end up
being a top 20 running back at the end of
the day, you got to just take that shot. That's
a shot. You gotta take. No,
Speaker 3 (1h 17m 5s): I, I, for my running
back, this is a guy I've been on for a while
here. And, and you hear,
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 11s): I mean, you just listened
to the coach, you listened to Ron Rivera saying
there's going to be a role for Antonio Gibson.
He's going to be in that Christian McCaffrey
role if you're playing in a full point, PPR
league, Antonio Gibson yes, please. I mean,
AP is ahead of him, but like, come on, how
much does he have left? There's certainly
a chance he could be even involved more in
the run game and yeah, I mean, at Harvey 45,
Antonio Gibson, I think could be a huge, I
just, the ceiling is so high for this guy.
And I think he's, you know, you're, I guess
an argument against is like the, the Washington
football team's offense. Well done. Sean,
you got, I think Gibson is just going to rack
up a lot of cheap catches and easy yards.
Like we saw McCaffrey do a in Carolina. So
yeah, Antonio Gibson 45. He's my first running
back sleeper here. And you know, I know he's
he almost feels like he's going to be the
guy that we're playing in DFS a lot as a cheat
code. So yeah. Who's your RV to Kramer?
Well, you know, I think I wrote down a lot
of guys just in case we, we, we crossed the
stream so I could, I could pivot. And you,
you mentioned the Redskins backfield. So even
Adrian Peterson is value because of how fricking
lady's going. I know there's now talk that
format could land, whatever the starting running
back, shouldn't be going that late. You shouldn't
be taking handcuffs before starting running
back. So definitely don't be fooled there,
but I'm going to go to your team, Sean Boston,
Scott, I think everyone is bought into this
whole mile. Sanders is going to be the guy
miles.
Sanders is going to be the guy, Boston star
Scott, I would guess is going to have a role
regardless of miles Sanders. And if miles
Sanders gets dinged up, which he's been dinged
up before. Yeah, I would imagine Boston. Scott
is going to walk into a very productive role
on a very productive office. So again, you
know, Boston is, Scott is going off as the
45th running back in that same kind of chase
Edmonds Latavious Murray handcuff range Pollard
as well.
So, you know, to me of those guys, I like
the fact that Scott already has a role. I
like the fact that Scott's role is something
real to start with. And then, you know, who
knows, you know, you keep telling me that
Sanders is healthy and it's all bullshit,
but no, I think he could be involved in third
down. And when Sanders isn't on the field,
I think it's going to be Boston Scott. They're
going to draw a place for him specifically
in the passing game. And I mean, Ryan, you
know, firsthand Paulson and Scott destroyed
your New York giants, spin, moving all over
the place.
He's certainly a fun guy to have on your roster.
And certainly a fun deep play. Adam, what
are you doing for your second running back?
Speaker 6 (1h 19m 55s): Listen, this pain's
made it do it because I got to go to those
bastards in Boston. But I got to talk about
Damian Harris here. It's a baby fucking wheel
man. As much as this pains me to say, it sounds
like Sony is the Sony Michel experiment is
on the outs here in new England and Damien
Harris coming up red shirted last year, basically
like new England seems to really like to do
with their running backs. And you know, at
the end of the day, Sony, Michelle had 247
carries last year, James White and 67 in Rexburg
had had 65.
There are plenty of carriers there for Damien
Harris to get to relevancy and going in round
14 as RV 51, you know, this is another guy
you're going to take late. You're taking a
shot on, but you're taking the shot on him
because if he turns out to be the starter
in new England, which very well could happen
in the second half of the season or sooner,
that's a guy you want to own because that
new England offense will most likely be better
than it was last year from a fantasy perspective,
because as good as Tom Brady wants to think
he was last year, he sucked throwing the ball
and the offense was anemic down the stretch
cam, Newton's going to be a shot in the arm
for that is running ability is going to keep
them honest.
So if I can go get a guy like Damien Harris
and round 14 in my draft, I'm going to be
a really happy camper moving into the season.
Speaker 0 (1h 21m 15s): And then the deeper
drafts, like that's the kind of guy that could
win you a league. If he does become the guy
down the stretch and is scoring big points
and weeks 14 through 16, Sean. Yes. Well,
he used mine. So I'm going to cheat a little
bit here and I'm just going to say, are you
not going to throw your guy out there? You've
been touting them all preseason. Oh, Chris
Thompson. Oh yeah. Well he was my, he was
going to be my, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Delete that audio right now. I'm going to
go fill up Lindsey. I mean, he's right there
at 35 36. We hit on him a little bit earlier
when we were just saying how we're out on
Melvin Gordon.
But man, the elevation thing, it just scares
me a bunch. And Phillip Lindsay was a beast
man. Like I just love how he's he's all in
on, on, on Colorado as a state, he's a Denver
kid. Like he has undrafted tattooed on his
body. He runs so hard. I know it's kind of
a cliche, but just watching that guy so fun.
He's had two years, neither of the years where
he was the guy in Colorado really, and a thousand
yards back to back 16 total touchdowns between
the two years, he's even slowly getting in
the passing game.
Back-to-back 35, a reception year or so. And
I guarantee when we watched the Broncos, we're
going to, it's going to be like a Payton barber
Ronald Jones situation where it's like, why
the fuck do they keep giving the ball to Melbourne?
The Melvin Gordon? Because they paid them.
That's the problem. But I, you know, he's
got the rib injury. He, I just, I think Phillip
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Let's do it. Alright, Homer receiver.
Speaker 6 (1h 23m 32s): Can I jump in here
real quick on the Melvin Gordon thing? Just
a reminder, Phillip Lindsay has more thousand
yard rushing seasons than Melvin Gordon does.
And his fall yard per carry better on his
career. Yeah, I mean, Melvin Gordon has run
thousand yard season in his career and he's,
he's played 16 games wants and he's averaged
under four yards per carry every year, but
2018 and Phillip Lindsay is just a much better
runner Philip.
Lindsey's going to get the rushing work and
Melvin Gordon is going to be the receiving
back.
Speaker 3 (1h 24m 7s): Love it. You're you're
you're you're making me look like a genius
for your speaking. Well, and this is where
I go. Ron Dane, Michael Bennett, Anthony Davis,
Brian Calhoun, PJ Hill, John Clay, Monte ball,
James James White. Pretty good. Yes. Melvin
Gordon, Corey Clement, Jonathan Taylor, the
long storied history of Wisconsin's Wisconsin
backs and not too many guys in there became
too productive. No had all had great college
careers, but again, Jonathan Taylor crown
the man.
Anyway, my, my receiver Homer pick Sterling
shepherd. Again, you don't need a huge magnifying
glass on the camp on what's going on in New
York to see that clearly Sterling Shepard,
whether it's the routes he's running or the
position he's, he's on offense, he's going
to dairy slate and shouldn't be going before
him. And he is right now, Derrius Layton at
the list I'm looking at Derrius. Layton is
going as I dunno, I can't find it right now,
but certainly shepherd is widely or a 42 wide
receiver, 42 for slate and wide receiver,
48 for shepherd.
Shepherd is going to be a guy you're going
to play every week. I think his floor is going
to be high because of the catches. And I think
he's going to score more touchdowns than he
has in the past. I know Colby likes to shit
on Oklahoma receivers, but I just, from watching
the practices, watching the offense, Sterling
Shepard is going to be featured. He's going
to be the number two option after Saquon this
year. So my first receiver is going to be
Sterling Shepard, Sean. And again, the opportunity
is going to be there because they're going
to need to score points. Cause the defense
is not going to be that good. Love it. John.
Steve had sucks so we can all agree on that.
Adam, who's your first receiver
Speaker 6 (1h 25m 51s): Henry rugs in Las
Vegas. I mean, this is a guy they went out
and got early in the draft and is just stepping
into a Raiders offense. That is just
Speaker 3 (1h 25m 60s): Sorry. I had to hear
from a girl there. Listen, Henry rugs sounds
Speaker 6 (1h 26m 4s): Like the kind of guy
who's going to get a shit going manually.
I it's just what they've talked about. They've
used them all over the field and Tyra Williams
doesn't play in this year. They just put them
on IRR today. That's 64 catches out the window.
They don't want to throw the ball to Zay Jones
again, ever again, rip to the career of Zay
Jones. He can go fight for Jesus elsewhere.
You know, Darren Waller had a ton of targets
and you know, Henry rugs, this explosive receiver,
you can get a guy who's pretty much his team's
defacto wide receiver one at pick one 27.
So in the 10th round I'm getting a wide receiver
one sign me up all day.
Speaker 0 (1h 26m 40s): And more importantly,
I think Sean, you touched on this earlier
when we were talking to Joe, but being down
on Waller. Yeah, I think this is part of the
reason you can argue being down on Waller
cause rugs is going to infringe on that part
of the field. And I do think, and they're
learning as the kind of guy that likes to
play with his new toys. I'll just say that.
And you can tell like Gruden's buying into
the Raiders philosophy of just win baby and
speed. And you know, he's drawing up specific
plays to get rugs involved into to make it
seem like it was an amazing pick and they
didn't do the wrong thing by not taking CD
lamb.
So I love that. I love when there's a little
angle of like why the coach at GM really wants
to get that guy going to me. And again, Kramer,
you'll say it's a Homer play, but the Sean
Jackson receiver 58, that is just way too
far. When his legit chemistry for him, they,
I mean, they're going to want to get the depo
going now, Jalen Ray, or was going to eat
away. Some of that production, he's going
to play one game. Now he's going to be banged
up a little bit. So right. People get hurt
in the national football league. You can't
predict injuries to Sean Jackson, everyone
in camp saying get best shape of his life.
Knock on wood. If you're with me, he stays
healthy. I love him at receiver 58. That's
just crazy. There's easily a formula where
he's crazy. He's the number one receiver on
the team. Kramer. Who's your second receiver.
I mean, I'm sitting in a similar range here
and I know that we've already discussed Devontae
Parker and how he looks to just be a monster
this year because there's going to be so many
targets. I think another guy that people are
very high on is Preston Williams and I'm going
to stick it in an offense cause you can get,
you can get press and Williams going as the
wide receiver, 51, the site I'm looking at
ADP of one 30.
So he's gonna be there late. He's gonna have
opportunity. I think with the wide receiver
position, the first thing you have to look
at is what, what, what available targets are
there? And you know, you like your Secchi
for the same reasons. Cause you're not exactly
sure who's going to get them. You know, Parker's
going to be the number one, but who's going
to be the number two. So I think to take a
stab when I got like Preston Williams, why
not also Sean, the nice thing about a pick
like this you'll know very quickly. I think
you'll know very quickly. Maybe even week
one, Hey, this is going to be a guy I want
to hold on to.
Or you know what he wasn't part of this game
pen was cut his ass. So, and we're just a
little for the audience. Stay away from Corey
Davis. I finally quit that, man. You got to
know when it's time to hang it up. Adam, who's
your second receiver for the sleepers.
Speaker 6 (1h 29m 10s): Looking at new Orleans,
they got Michael Thomas obviously. And he's
just been a dominant force, but they've never
really put a true number two across from him
before this year. And Emmanuel Sanders going
off the board at wide receiver, 45 ADP or
40 for the wide receivers. You got to love
him. You know, this is a man who reliable
before the law before the last two years before
2017, 2018 always played 16 games. Last year
was one of the only players to play 17 games,
consistent thousand yard guy, a hundred plus
targets.
And there are definitely targets to go around
there in new Orleans. You know, Tegan had
56 last year taste some handle at 22, you
know, they were thrown to Josh Hill 35 times.
There's plenty of targets to go around there
in new Orleans. So you gotta love a guy like
Emmanuel Sanders, who was the number one last
year in San Francisco and produced now having
less attention paid to him and you're getting
them again at a great discount.
Speaker 0 (1h 30m 8s): And I think what's
helping is what's going to help is discount.
As we get closer to kickoff is drew breeze
and Sean Payne are back at it, hyping up Trey
Kwan Smith this year, which is the year for,
it feels like an annual tradition, but Emmanuel
Sanders, professional wide receiver, we've
seen him produce with quarterbacks that are
not as good as drew Brees. Even if drew Brees
is falling off the cliff. I do. I also enjoy
Emmanuel Sanders. He's he's a, he's brought
me some fantasy gold before we saw Emmanuel
Sanders do some things with the saints in
the Madden Sims.
I'm going to go to another SIM God, we just
watched him last night on Monday night, Matt,
give me a little Alan Lazaro, 61st receiver
overall, very easy to talk yourself into Alan
Lazard. Hey, you know sure. Davante Adams
is going to get his butt. If you're, if you're
playing the Packers, you gotta roll coverage
to Devontay Adams, Alan Lazard. I mean we
saw a huge jump from his
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in the point where I'm trying to leave leagues,
you got to put up boundaries and just realize
like, okay, five leagues is enough and beauty.
The beauty of the modern day fantasy football
is I can get my draft fix with best ball.
And let's just say, you know, I have a hundred
best ball teams. That's okay. Because I don't
have to go back and look at them. You don't
have to set the roster. So great. Yeah. So
I have friends, I mean Tom Brawley, who is
my, my colleague over@fantasypoints.com. We,
we call them our August friends are, Oh yeah.
Oh, you know what? You know who I haven't
checked in with in awhile Dolan. I wonder
how he's doing by the way. I have a keeper
league.
Yeah. You don't hear from him like from January
to, and then late August and go to your head
tomorrow or Zeke, let's go, I need know more
than this year. Seek right now. Yeah, exactly.
Jesus. We're talking right now. And we have
Camara on, on the screen, over our shoulders
and Holy shit. First, the four net news was
like a mild tremor compared to Camara potentially
on the move and then Camara. And just as like
right before we hopped into the studio, I
check Twitter and Kamara put out a statement
saying that he's not holding out and he's
not seeking a trade.
So I think maybe he maybe saw the saints bluff.
We'll see where this ends up going. But I,
I'm not going to move him down right now.
But Joe, are you, are you doing anything with
Alvin Kamara, like in a mock draft or if you're
drafting tonight, are you still taking Alvin
Kamara right there in the first,
Speaker 5 (14m 54s): First and foremost? Let
me just,
Speaker 0 (14m 55s): Let me just give a little
bit of a statement on the state of fantasy
because you guys mentioned best fall. The
mock draft is dead. Like, like I'm not doing
Speaker 5 (15m 3s): Mock drafts anymore. If
I want to quote unquote mock draft, I'm going
to do a $3.
Speaker 0 (15m 7s): Yeah. It's not a ton of
high stakes, but I have a chance to win something
in the end. So yeah.
Speaker 5 (15m 13s): And I want people who
are going to take the damn thing seriously
because yeah,
Speaker 0 (15m 16s): Well somebody is somebody
who's a jacket dune. He could mess up your,
Speaker 5 (15m 21s): You can mess up your,
your mock draft. But anyway, here's the deal
with Alvin Camaro. I'm glad I'm not drafting
one of my main leaks tonight because I would
probably move him down my board maybe below
Derek Henry, maybe below Dalvin, Koa, Clyde
Edwards, a layer. Although I'm kind of with
you guys, I think as robust as these negotiations
have been through the media, I mean we've
w Josie Manderson, Oh, they're the saints
are willing to trade them. And then you get
saints, beat reporters like Jeff Duncan and
Nick Underhill.
They're like, well, they, they, they are considering
it. However, they probably would rather get
something done. Charles Robinson said the
saints are looking at the Joe mixing contract
extension, which literally just got signed
about three hours ago. And while McCafe or
excuse me, Kymera is looking as he probably
should at the Christian McCaffrey extension
and as his baseline for what he wants to get
paid. And eventually we're going to end up
somewhere in the middle. But I don't know
about you guys that the first reaction is
to panic when you see something like that,
because if Alvin Camaro gets traded, I mean,
there is no where on planet earth, where maybe
maybe with the exception of the San Francisco
49ers, where his value is going to be, where
it is on the new Orleans saints right now,
because anywhere else he goes at this point,
either the team is going to be worse or the
team is already going to have some sort of
an established back.
Who's going to have a role. So
Speaker 0 (16m 51s): If sequel, excuse me,
if Alvin
Speaker 5 (16m 53s): America traded in the
New York giants, all right, first and foremost,
I don't know why the giants would do that.
But second of all, they're already upstate
one Barkley. If Alvin Camaro got traded to
the Kansas city chiefs, quiet Edwards delayer
is probably going to have a role somewhere
San Francisco. I think you could convince
me that they are not going to put Ramo cert
on the field over Alvin Camaro, but the coup
for fantasy purposes, there's nowhere. He
goes where he's a top five pick, like he is
with the new Orleans saints at this stage.
So we really hope he's not on the moon.
Speaker 0 (17m 23s): Yeah. And especially
with drew Brees and kind of the questions
of arm strength later on in his career that
checked down that three years of back to back
to back 81 receptions, if you're in a full
point PPR and he goes to a place where maybe
he's only going to get 50 targets in that
offense, that's a huge, I mean, yeah, that's
a huge swing and I'm sorry guys. I was just
going to real quick. I'm in an interesting
predicament. I'm in a handful of FFPC main
leagues. And one of my drafts is tomorrow
at 7:00 PM.
And I have, I have the seven pick and I, I
sorry, the nine pick. And I'm sure as shit.
If he, if he starts tumbling to me, I'm 100%
going to take him. And I, and I hope people
overreact to it because I think this is much
to do about nothing right now, because it
is, he's trying to get money. He's in a car,
you know, I get it, but he's going to be on
the field because he understands the best
way to increase his value is play on the saints
offense.
Speaker 5 (18m 16s): Yeah. And for sure. And
I think that the initial reaction like you
guys said is panic, panic, panic. We get all
these tweets coming out, but then, you know,
Charles Robinson, like I said, well, he's
looking at more like 12, they're looking more
12 million. He's looking at 16 million. If
the saints are willing to look at the Joe
Mixon contract, Derek Henry contract, the
12, 12, and a half million. And they're willing
to approach that number, that doesn't scream
to me like, Hey, we better get out from under
this guy while we can that it's it screams
a team that's trying to create some leverage.
I think this is classic negotiating through
the media.
My, I do not want to panic right now, but
if you want to take a guy like Derek, Henry,
maybe even the guy like Joe Mixon, even though
I don't think mixing ceiling is anywhere near
as high as Camaro's. And just say, Hey, I
want that safety. I think I can sign off on
that, but I'm not dropping Camaro out of my
first round. And like you said, if I have
the ninth pick and high stakes draft there,
you could be looking like hours after your
draft and the eight people in front of you
who passed on it might look like morons like
that. That could be the whole, the whole situation.
So I'm not moving Kymera down too much. The
fact that the saints are willing to enter
contract talks that says to me, they want
to get this thing done. This is a team that
is all in for 2020. I think Alvin Camaro understands
that why would they make their team worse?
Speaker 0 (19m 35s): Other side of this is
I would say, it's okay if you want to bump
up Latavious Murray because he, he could be
serviceable regardless. And he right now,
you know, he's, he's going pretty far down
that draft board. So I would imagine if you're
in slow drafts, you're going to start seeing
people pluck him out. He starts showing up
there
Speaker 5 (19m 52s): The next round. Yeah.
Speaker 0 (19m 54s): And I think if you're
a Camara, you just point to, with a taste
of Hill contract and go, come on paying this
guy $10 million. He's he's not a quarterback,
just kind of a guy that hangs around. Alright,
let's get to it. Let's actually talk some
pigs. We're going to go round by round through
the first six rounds. And we're going to each
give out kind of a lock, a dog and a tease.
And the lock being a guy you love in this
round, you think he is ADP makes sense. He's
gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna just be a solid
pick here in that round. A dog is a guy that
maybe even a little, you know, the market
a little down on him, you think he has a chance
to Excel and a tease being a guy he's in that
round right now based off ADP, but you don't
want anything to do with him kind of hands
off.
And the lady at the strip club, don't go back
to that back room, dude, stay away. Kramer.
Let's kick things off. Who do you got is your
round lock dog
Speaker 2 (20m 48s): And teeth?
Speaker 3 (20m 49s): Well, so we're going
to do all three at once. Okay. So, okay. I
like that. I mean, other than the obvious
Christian McCaffrey, Joyce switch felt a little
bit like you giving out that minus 500 lock
the other day. I I'm going to go a bit of
a zag theory here, and I'm going to say the
lock for me in the first round, the safest
picks are the Michael Thomas diva, Devontae
Adams wide receivers because of the floor
that they're going to provide with that target
share. And although it kind of completely
clashes with my idea that you have to come
out of the first three rounds with two running
backs.
I do think when I'm sitting on the back end
of some of these drafts, I find myself debating
running backs. I'm trying to convince myself
on verses receivers. I know we're just going
to be stone-cold stud. So I'm kind of cheating
the lock in the first round, but that would
be my angle there. My dog is 100% and I'm
probably stealing your guys, Sean that's Austin.
I Eichler, I love, I love his ability to produce
here. And I've had a couple of opportunities
to take him in the 12, 13 spot pairing with
another guy. I really like his upside here.
I, I'm not sure.
I believe in Justin Jackson taking much away
from him. And I think the way tie rod plays
ball, he's going to be involved. He's going
to be catching the ball. I just love his,
his, his energy last and last guy. The T's,
it's kind of a smattering of two guys, but
I'll limit it to one. And that's Edward Tulare.
You get can't when you're drafting the first
round, Sean, but you can lose it. And I think
when you go all in on a guy that you're not
really sure who the handcuff is, you know,
the reason I would say like Dalvin cook is
a safer play here, even though he's an injury
risk to, you know, the handcuff is with Edwards
Hilaire.
I think you gotta take a shot on a couple
of guys in a Tandy read. It could be a guy
that's off the roster right now. So I love
what he did in LSU. I love the concept of
him in that offense. I'm not willing to mortgage
my fantasy team on him this year.
Speaker 2 (22m 40s): Yeah. Kramer I'll pick
up from there. My teas is also Clyde Edwards,
Hilaire. I just think the market's overreacting
a little bit based on, on, on, you know, him
being in the middle of the first round and
some ATPs. It seems like if you want cloud
Edwards Hilaire, you have to draft him in
round one. You look at Leshawn, McCoy's rookie,
a guy that they got in the second round high,
second round, which is, you know, up there
for Andy Reed and running backs. Even he,
and he had a good rookie year. He had 637
rushing yards, four touchdowns and 40 receptions.
So yeah, that's a great rookie year, but that's
not first round fantasy potential.
And even if Edwards Hilaire beats at, by a
decent chunk, I just think the chiefs don't
lock in on two, one running back and they
have so many other pass catchers. I think
it's just going to tough. It's just going
to be tough to get up there. Points wise.
My dog, of course, miles Sanders. He's even
dropping a little bit because of the soft
tissue injury. But if you read the Eagles
beat reporters every day, which I do, they're
not scared at all. He's going to have a head
Speaker 3 (23m 37s): Second, second round
of a best ball draft I did last night.
Speaker 2 (23m 40s): Yeah. And I'm putting
them in the first round. Again, some of these,
you know, maybe it's kind of a little all
over the place with ADP, but
Speaker 0 (23m 46s): The fact that the Eagles
didn't sniff at Devonta Freeman, or even Leonard
Fernet, any of these go away for them to sign
lender for net. Well, he's on the Steelers,
signed them. Oh, okay. Any other, they haven't
looked at any other running backs. So that
to me says, they're completely fine with miles
Sanders and the lock don't overthink it. Christian
McCaffrey, Teddy Bridgewater. He's just going
to be checking down to him all day. And that's
even a fun, like best ball stack. The Teddy
Bridgewater, Christian McCaffrey, easy completion,
PPR wheelhouse, Joe, what are you doing here
for your lock dog?
And T's in guys for the first round? Well,
I will
Speaker 5 (24m 24s): Watch like your cohost.
And I was thinking Christian McCaffrey is
a little too obvious to be my lock. So my
lock is actually going to be Derek Henry.
I think he's the safest pick on the board.
And this is shocking for me because I, I was
a day or Derek Henry and Ty truth, or I guess
he would say I was a hater for a couple of
years. And it just turns out their academies.
Rupp was completely misused in Tennessee.
He is not a rotational back. He is a true
hammer, bell, cow. And I, and we're hearing
from people in the organization that he is
going to be used more on the screen game this
year.
Now I don't expect him to catch 90 passes
like an Austin Eckler but just 30 passes.
Plus he's the best bet in the NFL. We get
300 carries. That is a safe pick. And I am
totally fine. Moving him into the top five.
If you want to bump Alvin Camaro down with
this contract dispute, my dog is miles Sanders.
I, I totally agree. The, I am. I am told from
people close to the organization. This injury
is nothing to worry about by the way. He also
dealt with hamstring last year in training
camp. And though he got off to a slow start.
I don't think it had anything to do with his
hamstring. He was just acclimating to the
NFL. You can get this guy at the one to turn.
He was the number three running back over
the final six weeks of last season behind
only McCaffrey and Saquon Barkley. And my
T's the guy I'm fading. It's Michael Thomas.
And the reason is not because of Michael Thomas
it's because I want one of these running backs.
I will, I will take up. Michael Thomas is
objective only a safer pick than Joe Mixon,
but I will take Joe Mixon if I have to with
Michael Thomas falls, because I want one of
these running backs.
So Michael Thomas of the guys with the first
round ADP, I might look foolish for that,
but I think he is the guy I like. They offer
front ATPs for a reason. You have to, you
have to ding somebody and I'm going to ding
Michael Thomas because he's a wide receiver
in this instance.
Speaker 0 (26m 19s): Well, it's funny is I
threw them out there yet. I would still probably
not take them in the first half of the day.
It is. I've been experimenting back into the
draft, taking double wide receivers, seeing
how it turns out later. And I just don't love
that third and fourth tier of running back.
So I hear you. I think you, I think from a
game theory perspective, it's hard to not
grab a running back in the first two rounds.
Kramer, what are you, what are you doing?
Round two lock dog and T. And this is where
I'm going to, I'm going to go right to that
position and say,
Speaker 3 (26m 44s): The lock to me is Julio
Jones. That offense is going to go off. I
think you could argue D hop. I equally don't
quite understand why he's sliding to the end
of it. When I can get sake one and D hop.
That feels strange. But Julio, again, I'm
zigging away from the fact that you're probably
gonna want to take a running back, but because
of that, because everyone knows that these
receivers are gonna slide down the board.
I think Julio is a lock to produce. He produces
every goddamn year. I don't see this year
being any different unless you're a Matt.
Ryan is already fallen off the cliff.
I think he's got a year or two more. So maybe
this is the last hurrah, but the defense is
still going to suck. So Julio, I, I, I do
like as my lock here, my dog, depending on
where you're looking at the ADP, he's not
always a guy that's going to be in your round
two, but I'm okay if you want to reach for
him at the end of the second round. And that's
James Conner, again, there's speculation that
four net could end up in, in Pittsburgh. I
don't know. I, the messaging out of Pittsburgh
feels a little bit like Jay James Connor is
in for a year.
He's quote unquote in the best shape of his
life, which always scary to read. Cause that's,
that's about as cliche as they come. But I
would say he's one of the last running backs
at this point where I'm feeling like excited
to be drafting him. And then my tease for
this round. If God forbid you're in a round
where someone's trying to just, don't take
a quarterback in the second round. So I'll
Lamar Jackson, Patrick, my home's, whatever
you want to throw in here. I'm guessing they're
both right in that fringe. End of second round.
I just stay away. Don't be smart. There's
lots of quarterbacks this year.
Don't let the quarterbacks entice you.
Speaker 2 (28m 18s): Well, for my round two
lock, I am going Austin. Eckler I mean, you're
right. He's right there at that 1213. So kind
of depending on what ADP you're looking at,
but he's a stud, I love it. I love Eckler
and you know who else loves Eckler Anthony
Lee. Like if you watch hard knocks he's, he's
bragging. Like this guy is easily. This is
what this is effort. And if you're bringing
in Tyler, Tyra Taylor or Justin Herbert, you
want to give that guy easy completions and
Austin Eckler is the guy. I don't see them
hyping up. The other running backs a lot.
And it just seems like Austin, Eckler's just
going to get a ton of volume.
And even if, and their defense is pretty good.
So I think they're going to be in games where
they wanna, you know, pound the rock, give
them easy completions, get the screen game
going. My dog is Aaron Jones. I think the
fantasy market as a whole, maybe getting a
little too cute with the fact that Aaron Jones
is set for such a major aggression, but you
look at that green Bay packer off. It's like,
he's still going to be a big part of it. Le
Flore loves running the ball. I mean, yes,
they drafted AGA Dylan, but I beg you to look
at the local green Bay beat reporters and
find anyone writing an article about AGA Dylan.
That just isn't about his legs. And it's just
like, he has big legs. Not like he's figuring
out the offense he's going to be involved
in the passing game. I think Aaron Jones is
kind of just, people are like out thinking
this, the guy had a ton of production and
yet maybe he doesn't, he's going to have some
touchdown regression. But even if he does,
I think he's a decent play in round two. My
T's Deandre Hopkins Kramer. I'm going out
on the Andrea Hopkins. There's a lot going
on with this contract. To me, the biggest
issue with Deandre Hopkins is going from one
team to the other, right?
Like you watch the Andrew Hopkins in Houston.
Why was Deandre Hopkins so good? Because when
you throw him the ball, he was always covered,
but he always made the catch. And I think
that's going to be tough for a guy like Kyler
Murray to develop that chemistry. And we see
it all the time. When a receiver goes from
one team to the next their fantasy production
dips. I think it's just going to take a while
to get used to the idea of like, okay, I'm
dropping back to pass. Deandre Hopkins is
definitely covered. I still have to throw
him the ball. And without any preseason, I
think they're going to get off to a slow start.
So he's still going to have a decent year,
but I think round two, you can find, I own
Deandre Hopkins this year, Joe, what are you
doing in round two here,
Speaker 5 (30m 32s): First and foremost, I
want to lead off and say, I kind of agree.
I'm not drafting a quarterback in this round,
whether it's my homes or Lamar Jackson, but
I couldn't bring myself to call them teases
because they're obviously league winning type
of guys. Just not my strategy. My lock is
Tyree kill 'em. If you want to invest in the
chief's office, maybe you didn't get a piece
of Clyde Edwards, a layer in the first round,
I would take Tyree kill. I think he's due
for some positive touchdown regression. I
think, especially in best ball. He's my favorite
pick in this range.
If you want a guy who probably gives you a
really high ceiling, but also with Dixon floor,
my dog is George Kittle. And when we look
at the San Francisco 49ers receiving core,
it has taken a hit here in the preseason phase.
Even though there's no preseason, Brandon
was burning it up and training camp, he goes
down with a hamstring injury, might be a little
slow off the Mark Debo, Samuel still isn't
practicing might be ready for week one. But
if he is, he won't be a hundred percent. I
think JJ Nelson got hurt.
Richie James got hurt. So there are a lot
of targets here that are going to be filtered.
George Kittles way. Some people Scott at drafting,
a tight end early, I'm more willing to do
that than draft quarterback early. MIT's I'm
going to have to agree. It's Deandre Hopkins.
You know, when he first, when he first got
to this team, I was like, you know, I'm not
going to downgrade them all that much. And
then you look at all the weapons. They have
the backfield. It's good to man backfield
with Kenyan Drake and chase Edmonds.
You have Larry Fitzgerald. Who's going to
get targets. You'll have Christian Kirk, who's
going to get targets. Andy is a Bella. They
have Keyshawn Johnson. I just don't think
he's going to dominate targets the way he
did in Houston. I think he's going to have
a good season, but I think he's going a little
bit too high. There are receivers going in
the third and fourth round. I liked better.
Speaker 2 (32m 22s): Cool man. I'm so, so
sad in the locker. Well, it's, what's allowing
me to get him with Christian McCaffrey, get
him with Saquon Barkley. So I'm okay with
it because you know, in traditional years
he would be towards the end of the first round,
early second round guy. So he's already dropping
50% down the board. Yeah. You're making
Speaker 3 (32m 40s): Me sad. I disagree. I,
I stand.
Speaker 2 (32m 43s): This is where you gotta,
you gotta, you know, we're right up against
it. We got it. We got to get some hard opinions
locked in round three Kramer,
Speaker 3 (32m 50s): What are you doing? Well,
this is around where I I'm going to stay with
receivers. And I'm smitten for the lions.
You know this? Yes, Sean, Kenny, Kenny Galladay
is a guy that I am all in on this year. I
love, I love you. If you went running back,
running back, like you probably should. Like,
I just did my slow main event team Shaun.
I went, I went cook. I went Aaron Jones and
then I got gala in the third round. I love,
I love his ability to produce even with shitty
quarterbacks last year, Stafford, as we've
talked about on the podcast, Sean was the
best quarterback.
One of the best, depending on which metric
you use in the first half of the season. So
hopefully they can stretch that out for a
full year. We can see Kenny dot gala day on
full display. My dog, he's kind of in this
range, he's kind of slipping a little further
down and that's Chris Carson at this point,
let's stop trying to pretend like Seattle's
going to be anything more than a team that
tries to run the ball for the first three
quarters and then unlocks Russell Wilson in
the fourth. Chris Carson, Chris Carson is,
is 100% going to see volume. And we, we give
other people a run for getting volume.
And yet Chris Carson seems to be falling a
little further than he should. And for my
team,
Speaker 2 (34m 1s): I just don't, I,
Speaker 3 (34m 2s): This might be around early
for the teas, but I just see it in the a and
the FFPC I'm seeing it constantly. I don't
get Jonathan Taylor being so high up the board.
When I watched Marlon Mack, I watched that
that's a crowded backfield to be investing
a third round pick and this running back,
I get it. He was a great collegian. I just,
I'm not really, really willing to invest this
capital here. So he's going to be my teas.
You can get Mack like six rounds later, five
rounds later. I don't know
Speaker 2 (34m 28s): For me, for my LOC, he's
just returned back at bears practice. There
was some worry that he was nicked up and,
and maybe he had been sliding a little bit,
but Alan Robinson, I think he's going to have
a huge year. Why are you shaking your head?
Raj Mitchell  Mitchell too risky.
I mean the, you know, Nagy won't even announce
the starter. AKA Nick folds is coming in and
Nick foals. I think Alan Robinson is the perfect
Nick foals quarterback. He's great at the
jump balls and Allen Robinson has put up great
fantasy numbers in spite of having Mitch 
and Blake Bortles.
The key is he's not QB dependent. I love him
there by dog Juju Smith Schuster. I think
he has a huge bounce back year with big Ben
looking healthy. I mean, we had her, we had
her boy on Merrill Hodge. You said he went
on that, that bear hunting trip with big Ben
at high elevation. He was doing fine.
Speaker 3 (35m 18s): I have no problem with
11 at 11,000 feet. They put
Speaker 2 (35m 21s): Juju back into the slot.
I think that's the best spot for him. And
big Ben is coming in after a year off. Who
does he have chemistry with of this receiver
group? It's Juju Smith Schuster. So I think
he's going to be involved heavy. My T's a
guy I want no part of this year and fantasy
Melvin Gordon, Melvin admitted that he's having
trouble with the elevation in Denver. That's
not a guy I want to be drafted and he's had
a rib injury and just throw in the fact that
like Phil Lindsey has looked really good.
I mean, there's a world where maybe Phillip
Lindsay has an Austin Eckler type year where
Melvin Gordon's out early.
And then Phillip Lindsay comes in and plays
really well. I mean, felt Blitzie runs the
ball hard. Maybe he's not as dynamic pass
catcher, but I I'm, I'm just not same principle
showing you can get Lindsey six rounds later,
which is insane. And is there a world where
Phillip Lindsay has more fantasy points at
the end of the season than Melvin Gordon?
Certainly. Yeah. Joe, what are you doing here
in round three?
Speaker 5 (36m 15s): Oh man, I have some disagreements
with, but I do have an, a major agreement.
My lock is Allen Robinson. He has been my
favorite third round pick by far. And we were
just talking about, Oh, Kenny Galladay, got
it done with shitty quarterbacks. Alan Robinson
called 98 pass slash 98 and said what you
want about Nick falls? He's an upgrade on
Metro Stravinsky. And I think falls is gonna
win that job. So I, I I'm in on Allen Robinson.
Here we go. My dog is Jonathan Taylor.
Ooh. Okay. Because I think some people are
going out of their way to find a reason to
knock them. And it is easy. It is maybe not
out of your way. It is easy to say Marlon
Mack and Naim Heinz are there. And then I
just look at  razor principle.
It's what I said to myself when they drafted
Jonathan Taylor in April and I'm sticking
with it,  razor. This is the best
offensive line in football. Jonathan Taylor
is a monster talent. They're going to run
the hell out of the football with Phillip
rivers at quarterback. I think he's the guy.
And I think he's the guy earlier than most
people are thinking my teas. Talk about a
guy. I want zero. Part of, if we recorded
this two days ago, it would have been Leonard
Fournette who in round three was like the
dumbest you could have possibly made. It was,
I'm actually upset. They did this so soon
because I wanted more fish in my leagues to
drop on the forehead. But, but it's talk early.
Yeah. I mean, look, the Rams eight, $10 million
a salary just to get rid of them.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37m 48s): What more do you need
to know about the guy
Speaker 5 (37m 50s): Just to get rid of them?
And I understand there might be the role there,
and this is anecdotal, but I I'm going to
go to an anecdote because we're on a podcast
and people here, aren't here to listen to
a cell stories. Todd Gurley had like 1100
yards from scrimmage and 14 touchdowns last
year. I never once regretted not drafting
him because I fully faded him last year too.
And what are the chances he's going to have
more fantasy points than 1100 yards from scrimmage
in 14 touchdowns this year. I just don't see
it like, like, give me, give me Jonathan Taylor,
10 times out of 10 over Todd Gurley.
Give me Melvin Gordon, 10 times out of 10
over Todd Gurley. Because I think Melvin Gordon
is going to get the calorie rich fantasy touches
in, in the Denver backfield for a little bit
of a disagreement there, but give me anybody
in this range over Todd
Speaker 3 (38m 36s): Gurley, that is a losing
pick in my opinion and quick nugget. Because
for, for, even though I shy through shade
on Taylor, I do in basketball, especially
you can actually corner the market on that.
Like if you look at just the Colton Niners,
right? Two of the premier running games in
football, you can effectively corner the market
by investing maybe a fourth round, Ron Taylor
pro, maybe a third now and then pulling Mack
and Heinz later, you can also go most are
in Coleman and try to corner that. I think
it's pretty interesting in the, in the theory
perspective, because with the reason you can
argue for Taylor, well, at least the deeper
leagues is I know where Mac is going and I
know the equity I need to spend on the handcuff
and spending a third and a ninth rounder to
corner the market on the best offensive line
in football.
Isn't a bad strategy. So
Speaker 4 (39m 24s): Yeah, I agree. Just being
all out on a curly and for net one, nothing
to do with them.
Speaker 3 (39m 29s): I have zero shares of,
I literally I have, I have close to a hundred
best ball drops. Zero four net sheriffs.
Speaker 4 (39m 35s): Yeah. When we did the
DK a best ball draft, I was picking like Chris
Thompson in like the 1819 rounds because he
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Jay Gruden offense. And I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 3 (40m 41s): What are we looking at
here? Well, again, if you're, if you went
running back, running back and you took a
receiver in the third round, you're probably
looking at this tier of pass catchers and
saying, yes, please, whether it's Ridley,
whether DJ Moore fell, I'm going to call my
lock someone a little different. I'm going
to say DK Metcalf. I know you like them a
lot, Sean. I just, the way that Russell Wilson
and this offense goes, I know people still
like Tyler Lockett. I, his ADP is close to
Metcalf's. I just think Mac half is in for
a big year. And I absolutely love him in this
space. If the, the more Ridley folks have
come down, my dog has Sutton period.
I have Sutton in my top 10 for receivers and
you can get them in the fourth round, which
I, I, I enjoy, I know there's questions about
lock. There's some other mouths to feed there,
but I think Sutton is on his way to being
one of the elite receivers in this league.
So I think this could be the last year we
see him go in that third, fourth round range.
And then for my,
Speaker 2 (41m 35s): My T's Sean, it's obviously
going to be loving on bell. Yes. You just,
you know, the, the thing that really turned
me off, cause I was, I was the opportunity
guy. And then I, then I saw the news about
Frank or outperforming, loving on bell. And
it's like, well, okay, that, that shouldn't
be happening Frank or got drafted in 2005.
Yeah. I mean, he's of course my T's as well,
levy on bell. What no part of him stay away
when you see the player and coach that already
had a history of not liking each other, duking
it out on Twitter, where they said love on
Bell's being arrested for his hamstrings.
And he goes, no, man, my hamstrings are fine.
Adam gaze is a vindictive guy. Apparently
doesn't know how to use his players. I mean,
just look at Ryan Tannehill, as soon as he
left Miami and what he did in Tennessee, that's
all you need to know about Adam gaze. He,
I just don't think he's going to give levy
on bell. The ball Frank Gore could end up
with more points and levy on bell. So want
no part of him for my dog. I'm kind of a warming
up to DJ Chark. I think Jacksonville is going
to be in the position where they're going
to be down big. Cause that defense has just
been completely gutted.
Now you take out letter for net and you know,
Gardner Minshew has a real connection with
this guy. I think they're going to be facing,
you know, how often are they going to be going
up against prevent garbage points will be
had down there in Jackson. And it feels like
similar to a season that Jamis Winston have
where Gardner just, he has nothing to lose.
He's going to throw it all over the place.
And I think DJ Chark is a interesting grab
there. And of course I'm lockstep with you
all my lock, DK, Metcalf love all the work
he did in the off season with Russell Wilson
and, and he learned how to think unlimited
show me well.
And he also, besides having an awesome rookie
year, he finished super strong. I mean, he,
you know, just dominated the Eagle secondary
in that wild card game. And I think he's just
going to pick up where he left off last year.
I love the connection with dangerous. So yeah.
Give me DK Metcalf. Therefore the lock as
well. Co-signing that one, Joe, what are you
doing here in round four?
Speaker 5 (43m 33s): So my lock and round
four is the guy who I think can lead the NFL
in targets. I, I kind of view him similarly
to how I view Devontae Adams this year. Just
going to rounds later two to three rounds
later, that's Adam feeling. I think he could
get, get 150, 160 targets. He, he and Alan
Robinson have been like an auto combo for
me and the third and fourth rounds just dominating
targets and feeling has the advantage of having
the rapport with Kirk cousins. My dog is Robert
Woods. He's perennially underrated.
I think this is a huge bounce back year for
the Ram offense. And if they continue to go
with a lot of 12 personnel with Tyler Higbee
and Gerald Everett out there, Robert Woods
might benefit more than Cooper cup. And my
T's LaVey on bell. Just once again, like the
running backs in this range, I have to talk
myself into drafting them, which is why I
like going with running backs earlier in the
first couple of rounds, LaVey on bell. Just
I was more into him than I was into girlier.
Fordanet I'll admit that, but still there
are, there are sexy wide receiver picks you
can make in this range and you don't have
to waste a pick on somebody like living on
bell.
Speaker 3 (44m 46s): No, I mean, you nailed
it. This range of running like the David Johnson's
of the world, just like I want nothing to
do with them. So I, it's hard for me to see
myself in a seriously going anything, but
running back, running back. Yeah. And get
those running backs, the high price running
backs out of the way early and then just load
up on, you know, rounds three through six,
just go heavier receiver and then kind of
get a, you know, a quarterback late. That
would be the way I would go. Kramer, what
are you doing in round five? Well, you know,
let's start, let's start with the teas because,
and maybe this is we're a little late on this,
but it's Montgomery.
I, I think if you look at any of his metrics
last year, you might use the crutch of saying,
Hey, this guy had no offensive line. He was
getting hit in the back field. He also had
no ability to make yardage after contact.
He also had no ability to do any of the things
that you would expect a plus running back
to do. Now he's hurt. Want nothing to do with
him, Sean, for my dog, it's Devante Parker.
He's, we've highlighted all the reasons why
you want some Devante Parker this year. And
it really it's like, Hey, Fitzpatrick likes
him, B who the fuck else is there C Miami,
another team that should be slinging the rock.
As long as Fitzpatrick is out there, they're
going to be slinging it early and often. And
from my lock, you know, the more, the more
I've looked into this, the more I just, I,
I just don't understand why Keenan Allen continues
to fall. I understand he's not going to have
the biggest upside, but we're talking targets.
And I know I like Hunter Henry a lot. And
I know I called out Eckler earlier, but Keenan
Allen gets open on every play. He gets open
on every play and whether or not you like
tie rod or Herbert, or you don't, he gets
open on every play. And I just don't see the
volume going down that much for him to be
now dropping a couple of years ago, he was
a second round pick.
And then he became a third, fourth round pick.
And now he's dropping into the bottom after
the fifth round. I just think if you're going
to, to your point, if you go running back,
running back, you snag those two and they're
third and fourth round wide receivers. And
you can add a Devontae park. You can add a
Keenan Allen to that. I it's just hard, so
hard not to. So Keenan Allen is my, my lock
and I think the four so high, if you're making
a case for Keenan Allen, just watch hard knocks.
Anthony Lin is just kind of in love with that
guy saying, you know why I say feed Keenan
Allen?
Cause Keenan Allen blocks. And that's he's
Anthony. Lindsay's like a guy when he says
something, he means it he's very straightforward.
And certainly I think the volume could be
there. People seem to be out maybe on the
quarterback situation. That's probably why
he's falling. Maybe the age thing, but James
gone now the dude, I don't know. I just, it
just feels like I watched so many chargers
games and he's so involved. And then when
he's not involved, they suck. So my, for my
lock, I'm going to
Speaker 2 (47m 30s): Keep it simple goes Zack,
IRTs here again. You saw Jaylen. Rager is
banged up. KRA Kramer thinks it's a Homer
play, but it's accurate is just going to get
a fifth round. That's great. Yeah. A shit
ton of targets, Carson Wentz. They're going
to be throwing the ball a bunch. And again,
out of all the other receivers, he had to
Sean Jackson for one game, Greg ward, maybe
get some catches. But other than that, it's
just going to be, Zach hurts. Zach hurts.
Zach hurts for my dog. I'm going Kareem hunt.
I've been huge on Kareem hunt in the whole
preseason. Then you have Nick Chubb having
a concussion issue already in camp.
I think Kareem, Hunt's going to catch a bunch
of passes and he's just, I, you saw how he
finished that season last year. I think he's
just going to be involved in this Stefanski
offense. They're going to run a lot of two
running-back sets. I think he's just going
to be pretty heavily involved. I'm in on him
for my teas. I don't want any part of Devin
Singletary. I'm just kind of out on him. I'm
kind of getting Sean, no one circles, the
wagons. And I think I liked Josh Allen. I
think Josh Allen is going to get a lot of
those Frank or inside the 10 running carries,
or it's going to be Zach Moss, Devin Singletary.
He's having fumbling issues in camp. And I
think just Zach Moss is going to eat out a,
you know, take some of his production away.
So I I'm, I'm staying away from Devin Singletary
in round five, Joe, what are you doing? Round
five.
Speaker 5 (48m 51s): I'm going to start with
my T's cause I completely agree. Devin Singletary
is my T's. I was fully fading him even before
recent camp reports that suggest Zach Moss
is looking amazing. Their ATPs have squeezed
Devin Singletary was once a fourth round pick
and Masa 10th rounder. Now it's more like
a fifth and a seventh or an eighth, but I'm
still in on Moss at the discount relative
to Devin Singletary. He was a more productive
receiver in college than Singletary.
And that's where it looks like he's been doing
a really good job in training camps. So Zach
Moss is the guy I want there. Terry McLaurin
is my lock. Who else is getting the targets?
I am a little bit concerned that he's going
to get double teamed a ton. I'm not a huge
Dwayne Haskins guy, but I think he's a special
talent. And he showed that last year. And
one of your guys, one of your locks, I'm going
to have his mind dog. Zach hurts. Why is he
a fifth round pick?
Speaker 2 (49m 47s): Yeah, it, you know, there
is that
Speaker 5 (49m 50s): I'm slipping to the sixth.
Like, and I think it's because Zachary is
boring. Like he doesn't get a lot of yards
after the catch, like a Travis, Kelsey or
George Kittle, but the guy has, I mean, he
is legitimate. Look at his numbers. He is
a hall of fame producer through seven NFL
seasons. And with, with jam and record, dang,
I don't think it's serious, but Carson Wentz
is always going to lean on Zach Hertz. And
if the Sean Jackson is healthy and if they
can get one more of those speed guys, whether
it's rager or John Hightower, maybe Al Sean
Jeffrey comes back in September and they can
just get somebody on the outside who can create
separation.
Speaker 0 (50m 28s): That's just going to
open up more room underneath Zach Hertz in
the fifth round. He's become a value simply
because he's boring, but he's still in his
prime. And he is a hall of fame producer to
this point in his NFL career. Yeah, no, it's,
it's crazy that he's dropping into Ellis Goddard.
That's why the people are like, Oh, there's
this? No, there's another thing that could
be, that could be some of the concern, but
they run a ton of 12 personnel. And I think
there's enough to go around for those two
tight ends. I think also, and you said it
it's kind of a boring play like you probably
already had. Zack hurts a couple of times
on your fantasy and redraft leg.
Some people there is some times where people
want to hype up rookies or interesting situations
just cause they imagine this crazy ceiling.
Whereas Zach Hertz is just a reliable, like
heavy production. Marvin Harrison can under
him back in the day, whoever auto drafted
would always get more of an Harrison cause
no one would ever want to take more of inheritance.
You've already had them a bunch. They want
something new and shiny, but you know, sometimes
production is production Cramer. I'll let
you kick things off here in the sixth round,
closing it out, luck, dog and teas. What do
you got got two of my guys kind of fit into
the mold of what you're talking about.
And that's, you know, everyone is grabbing
AIG green. We know nothing about what AGA
green is going to do on the football field
this year. But we do know that Cincinnati
is probably going to throw the ball a lot.
We do know that Cincinnati has about the solid
and my locks, Tyler board. I think, you know,
you might even Miguel be able to get them
round later because my tease is AIG green
because I keep, I keep participating these,
these basketball drafts where I see both those
guys go on the same round and it's like, who
is taking AGA green over Tyler Boyd.
I get it. You remember him as being this great
receiver. But again, I would rather take the
guy who I know is going to get the targets
this year and for my dog, James White. Alright.
You know, I, I considered throwing out Lindsey
when he's going even further at James James
Boyd is, you know, you can try to stab on
the other guy. You can try to figure out is
it gonna be Harris, Michelle, maybe for nuts
going to come to town. Maybe you're going
to hear Rexburg head's name again. And he's
going to randomly have two games where he
scores four touchdowns. But to me, James White,
it feels like this offense is going to be
tailor made for a lot of James White in the
passing game.
So to be able to get James White in your sixth,
seventh round, you know, to be your third
running back, if you went with that running
back, running back three straight pass catchers.
Now back to the running back, you can do worse.
So my dog's going to be James White. Yeah.
And wait, did you say your T's Kramer? Hey
Jay green. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh, you jumped run
for the Hills and James White. He could be.
And now certainly he's not going to have Christian
McCaffrey numbers, but in the same way where,
you know, cam Newton checked down a bunch
to the running back and got the running back
involved in the passing game. I wouldn't be
shocked if James White has a ton of PPR points
for my lock Kramer, where again, matched up
here, I'm also locking up Tyler Boyd.
He's in the slot. And I mean, you, all you
have to do is go back to a Joe burrow at LSU
who is in the slot there, Justin Jefferson,
111 catches
Speaker 2 (53m 26s): Senior year at L or junior
year at LSU for Justin Jefferson, 18 touchdowns.
I mean, certainly Tyler, Boyd's not going
to get that, but if you're a rookie quarterback
throw into the slot or the tight end, those
usually are your safety blankets were getting
to the outside and getting those number one
receivers that sometimes takes a little bit
more work and it just ends up being easier
to throw. So I like Tyler Boyd there. My dog,
again, this is a guy you've probably had a
million times, certainly there's injury concerns,
but in round six, I I'm, I'm rolling the dice
here. Give me a little taste of T Y Hilton.
The, the buzz out of a Indy camp there is
that he's showing sparks of chemistry with
Phillip rivers, Phil rivers playing, you know,
behind the best offensive line of his career.
And he loves throwing to the number one receiver.
Like he always gets that number one guy involved.
If they're really jealous, I think T Y Hilton
again, you're, you're rolling the dice a little
bit with the injury stuff, but that's why
he's in round six T Y Hilton could have a,
could have a huge year. And my T's Darren
Waller. I, I don't know. I'm just kind of
out in general on the Las Vegas Raiders offense
here, maybe, you know, now that they lost
Tyro Williams, his PPR, Cheryl go up a little
bit, but why would you take a kind of rolling
the dice on Darren wall or having another
huge year when this Vegas Raiders team is
prime for regression?
When you can get Zachary, it's kind of not
that far off. I mean, who would you rather
have Zach Hertz or Darren Waller? I think
their ADP is too close for me to even consider
Darren Waller. And also the thing I would
call out there too is you would have to take
Darren Waller kind of at the start of a tear
in my book. So you wouldn't be taking Darren
Waller when you could probably wait for some
of these other Titans, whether you fancy Evan
Ingram, whether you fancy Higbee, even Hunter
Henry. So yeah, and I would probably, if you're
gonna, if you're around six and you haven't
gotten like Kittle Kelsey weight, or just
wait and just take to like take a good Secchi
and a Hunter, like take two guys late and
just see who pops a stream, Joe, what are
you doing here in the six?
Speaker 5 (55m 27s): I have three wide receivers
and I have to go with my most drafted player
in all the best balls thus far. My lock is
Hollywood Brown, love my Baltimore Ravens
league, winning potential. All the metrics
suggested a guy who was awesome as a rookie,
even though he was basically hurt the entire
year. I think he's got true explosion potential
and he's available in the fifth and six rounds
off in the sixth. Absolutely love him at that
price.
Speaker 2 (55m 54s): And real quick to that
point, I mean, hardball kind of came out and
said, the next progression in Lamar Jackson's
game is getting the deep ball going. I mean,
that just lines right up with Hollywood brand.
Speaker 5 (56m 4s): And, and I think that's
exactly what they're the run game does the
run game, all those run game concepts that
the defense has have to defend. It sets up
the deep ball and Lamar Jackson can throw
it and he can throw it well, Hollywood Brown
can go get it just as well as anybody in the
NFL. My dog has will fuller. Now I understand
why he's a six round pick because he's never
healthy, but Deandre Hopkins is gone. Whenever
will. Fuller has been on the field with Deshaun
Watson. These two have exploded. There is
serious potential here, and I am willing to
take the risk on Wilf fuller because you're
not really paying up for him.
He's a sixth round pick. You can go and if
need be replace him, my teas it's T Y Hilton
heard a lot this off season that this is somebody
who's a lot of the dings and dents are starting
to take their toll on him. I think they're
gonna run the ball a metric ton this year.
Now I think part of the argument with T Y
Hilton would be, who else are they throwing
it to? It's been kind of a, a quiet camp for
Michael Pittman, Parris Campbell in and out
of the lineup who I think I actually like
him really a lot.
Speaker 0 (57m 14s): He could be a fun, best
baller or deep sleeper for sure.
Speaker 5 (57m 17s): Oh, for sure. But T Y
Hilton, I just wonder if he's getting up there
in age Philip Rivers, doesn't throw the deep
ball all that well anymore. I'd rather take
it maybe and bully me. My, this philosophy
has burned me in the past and we just got
done talking about it with Zachary it's. Oh,
it's kind of a boring pick, but he produces
Matt. My philosophy on this has burned me
in the past, but I'm going to go with the
sexy players in the six round. And there aren't
a lot of them, Hollywood Brown will four,
by the way. And if you want to be safe in
this round, Tyler Boyd, you guys had already
mentioned it.
Tyler board is the safe pick in this round.
And it's the pick I love.
Speaker 0 (57m 51s): Yeah. It seems like he's
going to be the guy getting all the, you know,
getting all that, the target share, right?
I mean, every, every league has those two
or three guys that are just juiced up on rookies
and guys who can have big, make big plays.
So you just have to, you know, AIG green falls
into that category. I watched it last year
and the FPC drafts, I watched people like,
you know, mortgage of fifth, sixth, seventh
round pick trying to, you know, the, and this
is that time of the draft where we, maybe
you take a gamble. Maybe you take a risk.
But to me, there's better risks to be taken
than an AGA green and a T Y Hilton, to your
point, Sean, not to not to continue to shit
on your or your, your, your roll, the dice.
I'm just, you know, you read the right camp
report and you gotta, you know, that's a,
that's a gut handicap. If I ever, like, I
was telling you yesterday, red bull racing,
you know, I'm a big formula one fan. Now they
say don't expect different if you don't do
different. So Sean's doing different. You
got to go against the grain. They're a little
bit, Joe, appreciate you calling into the
podcast. That was a lot of fun. Definitely
a heavy back on some time. Make sure follow
Joe on Twitter at F G underscore Dolan of
course, check out his website, fantasy points.
Check him out on the fantasy fees podcast
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And of course, Sirius XM fantasy. Joe, appreciate
the time, man.
Speaker 5 (59m 6s): Well, thank you guys so
much. I had a lot of fun
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Speaker 6 (1h 1m 2s): Thank you. Happy fantasy
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this, the lack of preseason football, the
lack of us seeing anything more than these
practice reports.
And now we're getting, you know, it's almost
like they're trying to make up for the lack
of preseason with having all this late breaking
news that is going to impact your fantasy
squad. Hopefully you weren't a diabolical
and drafted lender for net because who knows
that situation, I guess could get better.
But man, this Kamara news, terrifying people
are we, we just talked with Joe earlier about
the Camara situation. Adam, if you were drafting
tonight, what would you do if you're sitting
there in the first round middle of first round
and Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 3 (1h 2m 20s): Is there, do you grab
him or do you, or do you stay away?
Speaker 6 (1h 2m 24s): So here's what I'm
looking at right now. We just got some more
news out from new Orleans, from the local
guys talking about how this wasn't contract
related. Really. It was more related to some
injury and he was banged up and he got some
epidural shots and that's what kept him out
the past couple of days. I'm still a little
hesitant. If I'm sitting there maybe at five
or six, I might jump Clyde Edwards, Hilaire
in front of him. If I'm sitting there and
both of them are on the board, but if I'm
taking Alvin Kymera, if I'm there at like
pick 10, I'm having no hesitation about it
because the team that's going to trade for
him is going to want to use him.
If the rumors are true and I'd put a team
like Washington or Miami at the top of that
sweepstakes, and they are two teams who could
really use a running back of his caliber.
If he goes to Washington, I think he will
contend to be the RB too. On the low, low
chance he gets traded, but put him in the
number two slot if he goes to Washington,
because Ron Rivera just gave Christian McCaffrey
and Epic workload and command or gave Christian
McCaffrey ethic workload. And Alvin Camaro
is just as good as Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (1h 3m 30s): And that's a good point,
I think, you know, and you nailed it. I think
even if he gets traded to a less desirable
location, if you're sitting in the back end
of the first round, you're still taking him
because odds are, if a team's trading forum,
they're going to use his services. Now that
being said, though, Sean, I, I think we, we
touched on this earlier. We don't think this
is anything more than a charade, perhaps some
sort of negotiating tactics, perhaps not.
But I think at the end of the day, they both
sides know the best situation is Camara on
the field for the new Orleans saints this
year.
So yeah, they'll get, I I'm again, I have
the nine pick in the FFPC tomorrow night.
If he's sitting there at nine, I'm taking
him. Yeah, I know. That's a silly thing to
say, but I'm, I, I feel like there could be
a chance if this draws out any longer. Yeah,
we'll see. And I have the three pick in a
week and a half after the Thursday night game.
And if, if, if this has not been resolved
by then, I don't know what the do I take Zeke?
No, Ryan, you never take sick. Alright, sorry.
I want to ask I'm selfishly hijacking the
podcast at this point. If you have the three
pick right now, Adam, I asked, are you taking
Kamara?
Speaker 6 (1h 4m 41s): No, I'm going to take
Clyde over to Larry right now. Saquon Barkley
makes me really nervous in New York. Actually
I'd rather have Zeke, but if you really want
to be out on Zeke, take Clyde, Edward Solaire,
especially you could even fade Zeke a little
bit because we know Mike McCoy likes to use
two running backs. Joe judge comes from new
England where they're all about separating
that backfield and Dion Lewis is sitting behind
Saquon Barkley. And if there's somebody Joe
judge knows and is gonna trust it's Deon Lewis,
former consummate Patriot.
I mean, you gotta, you gotta be a little worried
about that. That's gotta be in the back of
your head.
Speaker 0 (1h 5m 20s): You know what? I'm
onto you, Adam, I'm watching the way you operate
and Slack over@asportsgamingpodcast.com slash
Slack. Just, just fluffing up. Sean's love
of, of hating the giants. I look, I think
it's a perfectly believable scenario to say,
Hey, Deon Lewis. He knows what he's doing.
He's a professional. He's going to be on the
field. Joe judge Saquon Barkley has been involved,
has been involved in an insane amount of the
passing offense and camp. Big time year for
sake, quad.
I don't know what I'm gonna get him and I,
Adam, Adam, can't take Hilarie either. I don't
know what I'm going to do in this situation.
I'm, I'm a, I'm really hoping it resolves
itself. Cause I want to take tomorrow. I want
Kamara to be the guy at three, but Jesus,
Adam is a mayor of a pill's mafia. And so
when he heard that I named Josh Allen, the
number one fantasy football quarterback and
made them 12 and four in spite. And Adam did
have issue that we only talked about the bills
for about 10 minutes on the AFCs preview.
But other than that, he is, he is on board.
He is a, the wagons are being circled for
a big fantasy season for the Buffalo bills.
And maybe this guy's your sleeper, but we
just hit on a I'm kind of out a little bit
on Devin Singletary, at least where his ADP
is. I'm leaning more Zack Moss. I like the
upside of, of drafting. Zach Moss later you
follow the team closely Adam, which, which,
what are your thoughts on the running back
situation there in Buffalo?
Speaker 6 (1h 6m 46s): So when we're looking
at the bills backs, it's definitely going
to be a two headed monster and Zach Moss and
Devin Singletary. I mean, you look at how
they used Frank Gore and Devin Singletary.
Last year. Frank Gore led the team in touches
actually with 166,000 saying was, he was just
old man, broken down. He had 16 targets. You
know, Zach Mohs is going to slide into that
role and easily provide some fantasy value.
But you also got to remember Devin Singletary
only played 12 games. Last year started the
last eight and still managed 150 rushes and
41 targets through the air for 180 touches
average in five and a half yards of carry.
He really showed himself to be an explosive
Playmaker. Now, Zach MA's bigger frame might
be a little bit more of a bruiser, but I think
you're doing well to draft both of them. Either
one of them feel free to draft them. You're
going to be safe with both of them. I'm leaning
Singletary and PPR because that Bill's offense
is going to have so many soft spots in coverage
because there just aren't enough defensive
backs to cover Stefan Diggs, John Brown and
Cole Beasley. That's just Josh Allen. If he's
Josh, Allen can be anything close to what
everyone hopes he can be.
The bills are gonna win at least one playoff
game. And I said it last time I was on. If
he takes big strides, this is an AFC championship
caliber team. If not a Superbowl contender,
Josh takes big strike.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 7s): I'm loving it. This
is 2020. We got, we got bills fans with confidence,
kudos to you, sir. That that was a well crap.
That was almost as good as eulogy.
Speaker 6 (1h 8m 17s): See, this is, this
is the kind of stuff y'all could have talked
about. If you spend 10 minutes on the best
team of names again, holding y'all to this.
When we're in the AFC championship game, I
expect wall-to-wall Bill's talk that week.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 30s): We will not, we will
not do the bills short there just for the
record. Sean did have them going 12 and four
winning the division me a little bit more
realistic with my constant prediction of eight
and eight teams in the national football league
this year. So I think, right. I don't think
Ryan has any team in the NFL going more than
11 and five. I promise you Sean, for the NFL
final predictions, I will have all the records
laid out so we can see how silly it looks.
Alright, sorry. Let's get, let's get back
to it. Well, we brought Adam on not only to
make amends for our lack of girls coverage,
but also to talk deep sleepers and we just
call them sleepers, mild sleepers.
And we figured the easiest way to do this
was we'll do one quarterback, two running
backs, two receivers, a tight end, and then
a crazy off the grid. Yes, sleeper. We're
defining a sleeper as for the quarterback,
anyone outside the top 12 ADP running back
outside the top 36, same four receiver outs
at the top 36 and then outside of the top
12 for tight end Kramer, I'll let you kick
things off. I mean, deep quarterback class,
you could go. A lot of places here feels unfair
to me letting me lead off because while I
am smitten with the Detroit lions and I can
tell you, Matt Stafford is a guy that at 13,
sitting at 13, if you want to apply a strategy
of, I don't want to waste a pick on an early
quarterback.
I'll take to see which one does better. Maybe
I'll flip flop ups, but I'm going to go Danny
dimes because Sean fumbles might not count
against you and your fantasy league. He had
a two to one touchdown interception ratio.
Last year, he showed the ability to put up
numbers and the defense doesn't look like
it's that improved. So you can have game script
as the fantasy nerds say. So I think Danny
dimes throwing early and often we've seen
what Jason Garrett can do with some talent
on the offensive side of the ball.
And you have, you know, again, I called it
out and the NFCS preview. The receivers were
not on the field together. A Shepard tape,
slate and Ingram and Saquon Barkley who played
zero snaps together and last year. So objectively
there's some talent there. Denny dimes has
the arm, has the, has the arm talent to do
it. Hopefully Joe judge beat the pussy. I
beat the private school pussy out of him with
those socks filled with soap. But yeah, of
course, I'm going to go Danny dimes with my
sleeper, a quarterback, Adam, what are you
doing at the QB position here?
Speaker 6 (1h 11m 1s): Listen, QB position
super deep this year. You could, you could
go well in a lot of ways, but you gotta be
looking at the number one. Pick Joey B Joe
Morrow in Cincinnati. He was picked number
one for a reason. And last year, the Cincinnati
offense ranked sixth in pass attempts at 616.
And yet they suffered through three games
of Alex Erickson completing under 50%. And
they also suffered through just a Bismal Andy
Dalton season, despite being six, then passing
attempts.
They were 28th and touchdowns in 27th, the
net yards and attempt, you gotta be looking
at Joe burrow to beef up that number, whether
AIG greens back or not. You got Tyler Boyd,
you got T Higgins. You got OD and Tate. Maybe
you got John Ross. You've got Joe Mixon back
and under contract. You have a beefed up on
offense. They're in Cincinnati. If they throw
at 616 times again, anywhere close to that,
you're going to have three receivers getting
targeted a hundred times and Gerald burrow
lighting the world on fire.
And don't forget he can pick up some grit.
He can pick up some yards on the ground with
his legs and enclose. He's probably going
to steal some touchdowns from Joe Mixon
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 10s): And rookie quarterbacks
in general, they end up scrambling a bunch
more than you would normally expect. And that's
certainly going to help real quick fantasy
Valley. I'm a defender of all. Ryan's I think
when you said earlier, Erickson, I think you
meant to say Ryan Finley, who was a pretty,
pretty shitty Ryan last year, but
Speaker 6 (1h 12m 27s): I mean, is there a
difference between Ryan Finley and etc? So
at the end of the day, really
Speaker 0 (1h 12m 32s): He's got some wiggle
and might be able to play slot receiver in
the league and one guy, well, the guy clearly
needs to be playing in the XFL. Well, my guy,
and again, maybe in a 12 team league, you
don't need to go this deep at the quarterback
position. But certainly if you like the idea
of streaming some quarterbacks or don't you
dare say Nate, Seinfeld, no, I'm going to
say a Gardner Minshew baby 26 right now, the
26 quarterback. But he has, he has no concern
about losing his job. They just got rid of
Leonard for net.
And I, again, I think this Jag's defense is
just going to be complete crap and they're
going to be throwing all the time. And you
talk about rushing yards. He was second in
quarterback, rushing yards last year, no one
even talks about it. And he did that meant
you did that in 12 games and 12 starts, he
had 344 rushing yards. I think they're going
to be facing a lot of prevent defenses. And
literally this guy has nothing to lose. Like
they've said, Hey, we're essentially we're
we're tanking. We're going to try and get
Trevor Lawrence where it's loading up on pigs
or taking away any skill players that might
be able to help you.
Do you think he's just going to sit back and
play conservative and be game manager, no
mint. You is anything but conservative. He's
going to throw it around. And I think he's
just going to go for it. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick
wielding a cock that's Gardner Minshew, long
cock Kramer. What are you doing? A 
of this sleeper team. It's all right. So it's
not, I'm going to throw his name out. We're
not going to use it cause it's not fair, but
arm stud, now that he's the starting running
back in Jacksonville, I know there's some,
some potential injury  or whatever
is now the backup.
He could get some run week. If
Speaker 3 (1h 14m 12s): I'm going to stay
away from that, I'm going to, I'm going to
be fair that he's not going to be asleep or
he's going to be shooting up the boards, but
I will throw out a sleeper. And that's why
that's a guy by the name of Tevin Coleman.
I, again, you know, for both the Colts, which
we addressed earlier, kind of relative low
equity to invest in the best offensive line
of football that well, the 49ers are pretty
damn good at running the ball too. And considering
you could, if you want it to, you could draft
most dirt and Coleman with sparing a fifth
and seventh round pick, maybe fifth and eighth
round pick to me, that's crazy Tevin Coleman
while he might not assume the main role ever,
he could assume the Tevin Coleman role, which
can be a productive back, especially if there's
an injury.
Shanahan clearly likes the guy. So I ended
up with a lot of Coleman shares and best ball,
Sean. And I, again, if you just identify the
fact that whoever is going to be carrying
the ball back there is going to have production
because that's what Shanahan does I think
to spare and let me pull it up. He was the
most. Third is, is that is going off as the
24th, a running back Coleman is the 41st.
So you could, you could spare. You could actually,
you could go fifth round or sixth round, most
dirt, and you could come back in the eighth
or ninth round and take at seven, eight, nine
take home.
And you would lock up that backfield. So absolute
sleeper there. Do I, do I give you all three
or all two or just one that we'll just do
one. Adam, what are you doing? RB one for
the sleeper team,
Speaker 6 (1h 15m 44s): Looking at Josh Kelly
in LA chargers, land, Josh Kelly right now,
going off the board is running back 59. But
the thing you really gotta like is that that
chargers offense has 204 vacated running back,
touched touches with the departure of Melvin
Gordon and that doesn't touch Austin. Eckler's
224. That's a massive workload for Eckler
sure that might go up, but everything out
of camp points to that, Josh Kelly has been
the guy that co number one with Austin Eckler
and Justin Jackson has just fallen back to
the occasional third stringer.
So you really got to like this out of UCLA
chip Kelly, you know, guy who knows how to
coach an offense. Didn't get used a ton in
college, but definitely has some potential
than upside there. And the coaches love him
in a tie. Rod Taylor led offense with Anthony
Lynn calling the plays that chargers team
is going to run early, run off.
Speaker 3 (1h 16m 36s): Yeah, it does seem
like it's going to be RV heavy. I mean, I
I'm still high on Eckler, but yeah, I mean,
as a sleeper for sure. And then in fact it
gets nicked up at all. I mean, that, that
could be huge.
Speaker 6 (1h 16m 47s): I mean, you can pick
Josh Kelly, it picked two 35 right now. You
can get them for free at the end of your draft
before you go defense kicker. And if you can
get a guy for free, who's going to end up
being a top 20 running back at the end of
the day, you got to just take that shot. That's
a shot. You gotta take. No,
Speaker 3 (1h 17m 5s): I, I, for my running
back, this is a guy I've been on for a while
here. And, and you hear,
Speaker 0 (1h 17m 11s): I mean, you just listened
to the coach, you listened to Ron Rivera saying
there's going to be a role for Antonio Gibson.
He's going to be in that Christian McCaffrey
role if you're playing in a full point, PPR
league, Antonio Gibson  yes, please.
I mean, AP is ahead of him, but like, come
on, how much does he have left? There's certainly
a chance he could be even involved more in
the run game and yeah, I mean, at Harvey 45,
Antonio Gibson, I think could be a huge, I
just, the ceiling is so high for this guy.
And I think he's, you know, you're, I guess
an argument against is like the, the Washington
football team's offense. Well done. Sean,
you got, I think Gibson is just going to rack
up a lot of cheap catches and easy yards.
Like we saw McCaffrey do a in Carolina. So
yeah, Antonio Gibson 45. He's my first running
back sleeper here. And you know, I know he's
he almost feels like he's going to be the
guy that we're playing in DFS a lot as a cheat
code. So yeah. Who's your RV to Kramer?
Well, you know, I think I wrote down a lot
of guys just in case we, we, we crossed the
stream so I could, I could pivot. And you,
you mentioned the Redskins backfield. So even
Adrian Peterson is value because of how fricking
lady's going. I know there's now talk that
format could land, whatever the starting running
back, shouldn't be going that late. You shouldn't
be taking handcuffs before starting running
back. So definitely don't be fooled there,
but I'm going to go to your team, Sean Boston,
Scott, I think everyone is bought into this
whole mile. Sanders is going to be the guy
miles.
Sanders is going to be the guy, Boston star
Scott, I would guess is going to have a role
regardless of miles Sanders. And if miles
Sanders gets dinged up, which he's been dinged
up before. Yeah, I would imagine Boston. Scott
is going to walk into a very productive role
on a very productive office. So again, you
know, Boston is, Scott is going off as the
45th running back in that same kind of chase
Edmonds Latavious Murray handcuff range Pollard
as well.
So, you know, to me of those guys, I like
the fact that Scott already has a role. I
like the fact that Scott's role is something
real to start with. And then, you know, who
knows, you know, you keep telling me that
Sanders is healthy and it's all bullshit,
but no, I think he could be involved in third
down. And when Sanders isn't on the field,
I think it's going to be Boston Scott. They're
going to draw a place for him specifically
in the passing game. And I mean, Ryan, you
know, firsthand Paulson and Scott destroyed
your New York giants, spin, moving all over
the place.
He's certainly a fun guy to have on your roster.
And certainly a fun deep play. Adam, what
are you doing for your second running back?
Speaker 6 (1h 19m 55s): Listen, this pain's
made it do it because I got to go to those
bastards in Boston. But I got to talk about
Damian Harris here. It's a baby fucking wheel
man. As much as this pains me to say, it sounds
like Sony is the Sony Michel experiment is
on the outs here in new England and Damien
Harris coming up red shirted last year, basically
like new England seems to really like to do
with their running backs. And you know, at
the end of the day, Sony, Michelle had 247
carries last year, James White and 67 in Rexburg
had had 65.
There are plenty of carriers there for Damien
Harris to get to relevancy and going in round
14 as RV 51, you know, this is another guy
you're going to take late. You're taking a
shot on, but you're taking the shot on him
because if he turns out to be the starter
in new England, which very well could happen
in the second half of the season or sooner,
that's a guy you want to own because that
new England offense will most likely be better
than it was last year from a fantasy perspective,
because as good as Tom Brady wants to think
he was last year, he sucked throwing the ball
and the offense was anemic down the stretch
cam, Newton's going to be a shot in the arm
for that is running ability is going to keep
them honest.
So if I can go get a guy like Damien Harris
and round 14 in my draft, I'm going to be
a really happy camper moving into the season.
Speaker 0 (1h 21m 15s): And then the deeper
drafts, like that's the kind of guy that could
win you a league. If he does become the guy
down the stretch and is scoring big points
and weeks 14 through 16, Sean. Yes. Well,
he used mine. So I'm going to cheat a little
bit here and I'm just going to say, are you
not going to throw your guy out there? You've
been touting them all preseason. Oh, Chris
Thompson. Oh yeah. Well he was my, he was
going to be my, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Delete that audio right now. I'm going to
go fill up Lindsey. I mean, he's right there
at 35 36. We hit on him a little bit earlier
when we were just saying how we're out on
Melvin Gordon.
But man, the elevation thing, it just scares
me a bunch. And Phillip Lindsay was a beast
man. Like I just love how he's he's all in
on, on, on Colorado as a state, he's a Denver
kid. Like he has undrafted tattooed on his
body. He runs so hard. I know it's kind of
a cliche, but just watching that guy so fun.
He's had two years, neither of the years where
he was the guy in Colorado really, and a thousand
yards back to back 16 total touchdowns between
the two years, he's even slowly getting in
the passing game.
Back-to-back 35, a reception year or so. And
I guarantee when we watched the Broncos, we're
going to, it's going to be like a Payton barber
Ronald Jones situation where it's like, why
the fuck do they keep giving the ball to Melbourne?
The Melvin Gordon? Because they paid them.
That's the problem. But I, you know, he's
got the rib injury. He, I just, I think Phillip
Lindsay is going to end up having a much bigger
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Let's do it. Alright, Homer receiver.
Speaker 6 (1h 23m 32s): Can I jump in here
real quick on the Melvin Gordon thing? Just
a reminder, Phillip Lindsay has more thousand
yard rushing seasons than Melvin Gordon does.
And his fall yard per carry better on his
career. Yeah, I mean, Melvin Gordon has run
thousand yard season in his career and he's,
he's played 16 games wants and he's averaged
under four yards per carry every year, but
2018 and Phillip Lindsay is just a much better
runner Philip.
Lindsey's going to get the rushing work and
Melvin Gordon is going to be the receiving
back.
Speaker 3 (1h 24m 7s): Love it. You're you're
you're you're making me look like a genius
for your speaking. Well, and this is where
I go. Ron Dane, Michael Bennett, Anthony Davis,
Brian Calhoun, PJ Hill, John Clay, Monte ball,
James James White. Pretty good. Yes. Melvin
Gordon, Corey Clement, Jonathan Taylor, the
long storied history of Wisconsin's Wisconsin
backs and not too many guys in there became
too productive. No had all had great college
careers, but again, Jonathan Taylor crown
the man.
Anyway, my, my receiver Homer pick Sterling
shepherd. Again, you don't need a huge magnifying
glass on the camp on what's going on in New
York to see that clearly Sterling Shepard,
whether it's the routes he's running or the
position he's, he's on offense, he's going
to dairy slate and shouldn't be going before
him. And he is right now, Derrius Layton at
the list I'm looking at Derrius. Layton is
going as I dunno, I can't find it right now,
but certainly shepherd is widely or a 42 wide
receiver, 42 for slate and wide receiver,
48 for shepherd.
Shepherd is going to be a guy you're going
to play every week. I think his floor is going
to be high because of the catches. And I think
he's going to score more touchdowns than he
has in the past. I know Colby likes to shit
on Oklahoma receivers, but I just, from watching
the practices, watching the offense, Sterling
Shepard is going to be featured. He's going
to be the number two option after Saquon this
year. So my first receiver is going to be
Sterling Shepard, Sean. And again, the opportunity
is going to be there because they're going
to need to score points. Cause the defense
is not going to be that good. Love it. John.
Steve had sucks so we can all agree on that.
Adam, who's your first receiver
Speaker 6 (1h 25m 51s): Henry rugs in Las
Vegas. I mean, this is a guy they went out
and got early in the draft and is just stepping
into a Raiders offense. That is just
Speaker 3 (1h 25m 60s): Sorry. I had to hear
from a girl there. Listen, Henry rugs sounds
Speaker 6 (1h 26m 4s): Like the kind of guy
who's going to get a shit going manually.
I it's just what they've talked about. They've
used them all over the field and Tyra Williams
doesn't play in this year. They just put them
on IRR today. That's 64 catches out the window.
They don't want to throw the ball to Zay Jones
again, ever again, rip to the career of Zay
Jones. He can go fight for Jesus elsewhere.
You know, Darren Waller had a ton of targets
and you know, Henry rugs, this explosive receiver,
you can get a guy who's pretty much his team's
defacto wide receiver one at pick one 27.
So in the 10th round I'm getting a wide receiver
one sign me up all day.
Speaker 0 (1h 26m 40s): And more importantly,
I think Sean, you touched on this earlier
when we were talking to Joe, but being down
on Waller. Yeah, I think this is part of the
reason you can argue being down on Waller
cause rugs is going to infringe on that part
of the field. And I do think, and they're
learning as the kind of guy that likes to
play with his new toys. I'll just say that.
And you can tell like Gruden's buying into
the Raiders philosophy of just win baby and
speed. And you know, he's drawing up specific
plays to get rugs involved into to make it
seem like it was an amazing pick and they
didn't do the wrong thing by not taking CD
lamb.
So I love that. I love when there's a little
angle of like why the coach at GM really wants
to get that guy going to me. And again, Kramer,
you'll say it's a Homer play, but the Sean
Jackson receiver 58, that is just way too
far. When his legit chemistry for him, they,
I mean, they're going to want to get the depo
going now, Jalen Ray, or was going to eat
away. Some of that production, he's going
to play one game. Now he's going to be banged
up a little bit. So right. People get hurt
in the national football league. You can't
predict injuries to Sean Jackson, everyone
in camp saying get best shape of his life.
Knock on wood. If you're with me, he stays
healthy. I love him at receiver 58. That's
just crazy. There's easily a formula where
he's crazy. He's the number one receiver on
the team. Kramer. Who's your second receiver.
I mean, I'm sitting in a similar range here
and I know that we've already discussed Devontae
Parker and how he looks to just be a monster
this year because there's going to be so many
targets. I think another guy that people are
very high on is Preston Williams and I'm going
to stick it in an offense cause you can get,
you can get press and Williams going as the
wide receiver, 51, the site I'm looking at
ADP of one 30.
So he's gonna be there late. He's gonna have
opportunity. I think with the wide receiver
position, the first thing you have to look
at is what, what, what available targets are
there? And you know, you like your Secchi
for the same reasons. Cause you're not exactly
sure who's going to get them. You know, Parker's
going to be the number one, but who's going
to be the number two. So I think to take a
stab when I got like Preston Williams, why
not also Sean, the nice thing about a pick
like this you'll know very quickly. I think
you'll know very quickly. Maybe even week
one, Hey, this is going to be a guy I want
to hold on to.
Or you know what he wasn't part of this game
pen was cut his ass. So, and we're just a
little for the audience. Stay away from Corey
Davis. I finally quit that, man. You got to
know when it's time to hang it up. Adam, who's
your second receiver for the sleepers.
Speaker 6 (1h 29m 10s): Looking at new Orleans,
they got Michael Thomas obviously. And he's
just been a dominant force, but they've never
really put a true number two across from him
before this year. And Emmanuel Sanders going
off the board at wide receiver, 45 ADP or
40 for the wide receivers. You got to love
him. You know, this is a man who reliable
before the law before the last two years before
2017, 2018 always played 16 games. Last year
was one of the only players to play 17 games,
consistent thousand yard guy, a hundred plus
targets.
And there are definitely targets to go around
there in new Orleans. You know, Tegan had
56 last year taste some handle at 22, you
know, they were thrown to Josh Hill 35 times.
There's plenty of targets to go around there
in new Orleans. So you gotta love a guy like
Emmanuel Sanders, who was the number one last
year in San Francisco and produced now having
less attention paid to him and you're getting
them again at a great discount.
Speaker 0 (1h 30m 8s): And I think what's
helping is what's going to help is discount.
As we get closer to kickoff is drew breeze
and Sean Payne are back at it, hyping up Trey
Kwan Smith this year, which is the year for,
it feels like an annual tradition, but Emmanuel
Sanders, professional wide receiver, we've
seen him produce with quarterbacks that are
not as good as drew Brees. Even if drew Brees
is falling off the cliff. I do. I also enjoy
Emmanuel Sanders. He's he's a, he's brought
me some fantasy gold before we saw Emmanuel
Sanders do some things with the saints in
the Madden Sims.
I'm going to go to another SIM God, we just
watched him last night on Monday night, Matt,
give me a little Alan Lazaro, 61st receiver
overall, very easy to talk yourself into Alan
Lazard. Hey, you know sure. Davante Adams
is going to get his butt. If you're, if you're
playing the Packers, you gotta roll coverage
to Devontay Adams, Alan Lazard. I mean we
saw a huge jump from his rookie year to his
second year, last year, getting 52 targets
in his second year, three touchdowns on those.
And I, it just seems like he's he's in good
shape. I, yeah, I don't know. I think Alan
Lazard just big ceiling for him and this and
this packer office and the reports coming
out. I think I saw a quote like basically
of course he's the number two receiver. He's
a professional. And so I don't know if there,
I don't know if it's that clear to everyone,
but I definitely see some messaging out of
green Bay that he's very clearly gonna be
the number two guy and just this is from Packers
wire, but just this headline alone, caring
and hard work.
Alan Lazard earned Aaron Rogers, trust what?
Wait a second. Like their gym buddy, maybe
he's a roommate who knows whatever, whatever
their connection is. They have a connection.
And I think he's going to cry on when Danica
leaves. I think they're, you know, I think
he's going to be involved a lot and he could
be fun. Flex play, whatever. It's 61 overall
receivers. I mean, again, he's, he's probably
a guy like no one's even drafted, which by
the way, we didn't touch on it. But Aaron
Rogers is outside the top 1280 and that just
shows you how crazy you can get with the QBs
and how you really don't need to pay up for
him.
Kramer, what are you doing for your sleeper
tight end? You know, I think there's a nice
tier of guys outside the top 12. And I'm gonna
try, I think I know where you're going to
go. So I'll come back to my Detroit lions
and I'll take TJ Hockinson we saw, we started
to do last year and we saw what Stafford looked
like when he was healthy. I like Hockinson
to take a big step forward in this offense.
I didn't throw him out as a sleeper in the
receivers, but Marvin Jones, once again is
a grievously under drafted. He's another guy.
I think this offense that showed you in the
first eight weeks last year that they can
do something.
And if Patricia can hold up his end of the
bargain and keep that defense as shitty as
they have been, there's going to be opportunity
there. So I'll go with, with hoc, from my,
the tight end. I love him by with tight ends
too. I, you know, in basketball, Sean, I got
a lot of Henry paired with hoc. Yeah, no,
that's, that's not a bad strategy at all.
Adam, what are you doing? A tight end position.
Speaker 6 (1h 33m 13s): Third leg, Greg may
rest in peace. Left. Carolina is out there
in Seattle now disappointing to see him leave
Carolina, but that opens the door for Ian
Thomas, Ian Thomas, absolute stud stud in
the couple of games he played last year 30
targets. He gets to pick up Greg Olson's 82.
And if there's one thing, Teddy Bridgewater
loves more than those 10 clubs. It is throwing
to tight ends. All right, when he was in Minnesota,
he targeted Kyle Rudolph 73 times as a starter
in 2015, and then coming back in 2014, another
big year targeting his tight ends.
About 80 times. He loves to go to those tight
ends. He's going to go to them over and over
again. And with defenses rolling to Curtis,
Samuel and DJ more on the outside, Ian Thomas
is going to be open in the middle of the field.
He's athletic enough. He's going to pick up
those big gains. And if he has some positive
touchdown upside, you're going to be looking
at a top six tight end at the end of the year.
Yeah.
Speaker 0 (1h 34m 10s): And I like Ian Thomas
as well. And Matt rule has made it clear.
He's kind of the tight end there. And again,
that's why you don't, if you don't get Earth's
Kelsey Kiddle maybe you want to throw a Mark
Andrews in there. I'm not as high. I mean,
have you even tried for those top guys this
year? Take, take two of these guys late. You
could have Ian Thomas and my guy, Mike 
he's tied in 14 right now. I ranked him number
one, that hasn't, that hasn't moved him up.
The, the ADP yet I'm not moving ADP left and
right here, but if you listened to the fantasy
football, we did the top 10 fantasy football
tight ends and, and go back and check out
those podcasts.
We do a thorough breakdown of all the position
groups, top tens when they were happening.
But Mike is sickie. He's going to get a lot
of work. He's going to be in the slot
Speaker 2 (1h 34m 58s): Slot. How's the slot.
And you you've seen like the opt-outs and
that are going on for the dolphins. There's
just going to be a lot of, a lot of receptions
up for grabs. And again, I think the dolphins
could be playing from behind a little bit
and Fitzpatrick likes thrown to him. We saw
a sicky finished strong, nice connection with
Ryan fits magic at tight. End 14. That to
me is just crazy.
Speaker 3 (1h 35m 23s): There's a lot of guys
and we named three of them, another one, Jono
Smith, again, you know, opportunity is knocking.
And I think more so than most years, I know
this is probably a rinse and repeat idea,
but you, you need to not take an early quarterback
or tie-down I think, I think you just, there's
so much value with these guys
Speaker 2 (1h 35m 43s): For sure. All right.
Let's close things out. Give a crazy sleeper.
However you define a crazy sleeper. I cheated.
I have two, one. Kramer's just going to make
fun of me for saying it's a Homer play, but
Speaker 3 (1h 35m 53s): I would say great.
You can't say Greg ward now, Craig
Speaker 2 (1h 35m 56s): Lord is on my list.
Jesus, he's four he's. He's not being drafted.
He's of course, Dez Dez Bryant is drafted
higher than Greg warding and he didn't Dez.
Brian's not in the fucking league. Like Greg
ward finished up as the Eagles. Number one
receiver in three games, he had 28 catches
and Carson wins has a real connection with
him. It again, he's probably a guy with, if
the Sean Jackson gets hurt, you throw in Greg
ward there and he's over the middle there,
a similar like safety blanket type role as
Zach Hertz, Greg ward, again, undrafted guy
that could get a decent PPR, a look there
and could be like a deep DFS play Kramer.
Who's your, who's your super sleeper. And
I'll get my other one. My other one is of
course is Thompson. Yeah, that's a good one.
I love Chris Thompson. J Gruden loved throwing
him the ball when they were together at the
red skins. And again, they moved on forum.
Lenny Ford. It's kind of just we'll see what
happens in Jacksonville. But as far as running
back, getting the ball from the quarterback,
checking it down. I could see Gardner being
behind needing a, you know, again, maybe the
defense is playing back and Thompson just
racking up some easy catches,
Speaker 3 (1h 37m 14s): Deandre, Washington.
Yeah. You know, he, it appears he's the number
two. And even if you love Edward Tulare, like
Adam does here, it's still reading. This guy
is going way too late. He's going in the 14th
round. He's going in the 15th round. He's
just for, for a position that maybe he'll
have some value, regardless. Even if the rookie
is great. But if the rookie isn't great and
he's a rookie and there's problems, you could
be looking at a situation where he's, Washington's
going to be more than just a guy that's catching
a couple of passes.
We saw what he did last year. Sean, when Josh
Jacobs was into injured, he averaged six,
20.5
Speaker 0 (1h 37m 56s): Fantasy games, fantasy
points per game. I finished as a top 12 back
each of those weeks. So, you know, again,
offensive opportunity. He's currently running
back 60. That's insane ADP in the, in the
near two hundreds. So you definitely are.
I would imagine Adam, you're handcuffing him
as a Edward's Hilaire. Backer.
Speaker 6 (1h 38m 19s): Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
You want to own either him or you might even
think about no, it's him now. Sorry I got
confused. It's him? Yeah. You just want him
and that's it all day.
Speaker 0 (1h 38m 31s): What about you? What's
your, what's your deep off the board undrafted
right now, sleeper that will save everything
for your fantasy team.
Speaker 6 (1h 38m 40s): Way off the board
here. And we're embracing that fact that Jacksonville
is going to be God awful this year and Gardner
men's shoes. Just going to be out there doing
his Ryan Fitz magic impression, slinging the
ball all over the yard. Yeah, love it. And
we got to bring in the pride of Owensboro,
Kentucky for this one Keelan call. Ooh, go
in undrafted right now is wide receiver one
Oh nine. And although Chris Conley is second
is technically second on the depth chart,
Jaguars wide receiver coach. The other day
when asked about his receivers, he went out
of his way to mention DJ Chark.
He went out of his way to mention duty Westbrook
and he went out of his way to mention Keelan
call DJ Chark had 118 catches Le 118 targets.
A DD Westbrook had 101 and Chris Conley had
90 with Keelan Cole picking up 35, but down
the stretch last season and over the last
eight games, Kaylin Cole was had 20 catches
for 328 yards and a touchdown versus Chris
Conley's 26 catches for three 46 and three
Keelan Cole was capturing some of that 2017
magic again in 2017.
In the second half of the season, just the
man carried my team, just hopes and dreams
right there. Loved it with that 42 catches
seven 48 and six starts gotta love something
like that. And then he started off the next
year, hot and then Doug Marone reinforced
that he's one of the shittiest coaches and
football by pinching his best receiver. I
mean, God, if you need more proof that that
man is a pro receiver, Google his game against
the Patriots and watch him windmill a one
hand catch down the sideline against the Patriots
in like week three in 2018, the man deserves
a shot.
He's got elite level speed. And in that Jackson,
Bella offense, there's going to be plenty
of opportunities as they're just going to
be getting their asses beat all season.
Speaker 0 (1h 40m 27s): Yeah. I just imagine
the Jags like could lead the league in passes
attempted just because they're going to be
down by so much. And Keelan Cole has an, I
mean you look at 2019, he had 24 catches,
three of which were for touchdown. So that's
an insane touchdown to reception ratio. And
I really thought you were going to go with
divine.  who again, it Armstead
is the runningback four. Annette's gone out
of practice.
Speaker 2 (1h 40m 54s): He's next man up.
So DFS lineup, I'm telling you Chris Thompson
though. He's going to be the guy as far as
fantasy points. Cause they're gonna, they're
gonna, they're not going to be able to run
the ball. They're going to have to throw it
and throw it to the running backs. What were
you saying, Adam?
Speaker 1 (1h 41m 8s): Yeah, I was just going
to say the same thing. They're going to get
killed every game. You don't want any part
of anyone who was rushing the ball? Chris
Thompson has the trust of Jay Gruden and they're
going to be looking to check it down to him
all day long.
Speaker 2 (1h 41m 19s): Will he be your 2023
Cohen? You know what? It's too bad for that
guy cut. Cause then now he's going to be in
the same thing with the Antonio Gibson in
Washington, like Derrius Guice ruined everything
well, besides being a piece of shit, human
being, but he really ruined my, my sleeper
fantasy thing. Although people are still looking
overlooking Antonio Gibson, which is kind
of crazy, especially from a fantasy point
of view. Adam, appreciate you calling in.
I appreciate all the cool articles you're
doing up on the site.
Just put out a printable draft, a cheat sheet
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