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hi my name is Dale and in this podcast I
speak with alex hoffman the frontman and
vocalist of Californian progressive or
is sometimes referred to is atmospheric
death metal band fallujah in this
interview we discuss the band's latest
album then you about the time dreamless
which was released at the end of april
2016 on nuclear blast records now this
interview was recorded in may but may I
think it may have 2016 so it was almost
at the point where i might have needed
to fish it out of the archives but is
and fitness it is new to the heavy metal
wanaka podcast and besides with a
been like pollution I definitely feel
there's a lot of people who might have
yet to discover these guys could really
become big fans finally sound gave them
a heads up
that's pretty much my story I guess I
was familiar with the name seeing it in
various people post and news and it's
something but I didn't give the band in
the attention until I heard them mention
or referred to on a American podcast and
listen to and i'll talk about in a way
which should have ran country to my
preconceived notions of the band and it
really opened my is to them and I'm so
you train them
so and hopefully i can do the same for
someone out there as well so if you want
to check out some of the music and also
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show episode number five I believe is
going to be the one where I'll be
kicking things off with a song from
Fallujah from the new album dreamers and
where my voice breaks will be in
reference to this particular podcast
vicious cycle i realize im so please if
you will this is my interview with Alex
hoffman from the band Fallujah
how's it going with you guys I think
last I saw your on a bit of a towards
black dahlia murder last day or two but
looks like you got nothing much on the
moment terms of yeah yeah well I want
we're on tour right now it's been good
bandwidth is right way to show right now
we're back California over from it's
been cool to see . because then you
haven't dreamless has been out for a wee
while now and the rich enough thing from
it has been pretty glowing to be honest
but is it set up to your own personal in
the bins expectations of what you wanted
to achieve with it
yeah i mean in other it's always kind of
a a push and pull that comes to reviews
i know for us matter but ok yeah its
thickness you get reviews but at the
same time it wouldn't really change how
we feel about it but at the same time
and I think I think it's never a bad
thing to see you again
you no-good glowing reviews from whoever
it is that wants to write about it I
that is far their expectations not only
no added expectations all all all we
were expecting that we thought people
would like it
I don't know it's kind of a hands-off
approach music we don't really get too
wrapped up and uh in how things should
go over things should be received we
just ordered album ever thought was good
luckily other people thought of the
school's well you gotta have a couple of
superb performances from some female
singers now I'm just read to the new to
listen to you guys at the same time is
this something that you've done in the
past and bring them on board was it sort
of a decision to step into the
atmosphere
some of it yeah i mean exactly we've
done it before I mean are people that
the press likes to falsely report that
somehow this some new sing for us but
you know that's the most surprising
computer energy research we've been
doing this for four years valuation you
know we're not be enough
yeah about four years we've been doing
this the last two records example had
female vocals on its kind of a
characterizing thing for us and so we
wanted to stay consistent with that
scene you know I think that's one of
those trademark trademark volusia sing
having female vocals when I'm a lot of
other bands are really doing so I think
they're I think it's really effective I
think it had it's very effective to have
a sort of feminizing elements and you
know music that's definitely very
masculine very aggressive i can add yeah
definitely adds to the atmosphere and
kind of has this stark contrast if you
don't hear a little a lot you know the
most
x whatever use your Klingon metal go for
the guy and while there is you know
there is a male clean to meet
performance on the record I'm i just
think that adding that female element
just don't have a really unique really
really unique layer that up
I haven't really heard that often
amongst our contemporary and I was gonna
them all right now I have obviously it's
you guys have said they're this album is
against the songs and the lyrical
content in the themes of have a
cinematic TYIN I guess as well as some
mixing with some of the guests of a
personal element as well now i just have
a quick question is probably pretty
obvious really
and it's been many many years since I've
seen the film but is in 'begaze sort of
based on Layton I'm not going anybody
with any longer about doesn't matter
whether you're right around i'm talking
anybody everyone asking the questions
every single interview and again it's
kind of a kind of thing
it adds to the mission that's the
mystery
that's what I'm trying to build for I've
actually had other people in person
company so far the store and it's
actually the other song is actually
incorrect a few time about which film
there about this challenge I don't know
you know just it's not really something
that i want to put out there kinda want
people to figure it out tomorrow
afternoon this interpretation you know I
had this the only one I can even make it
vague connection with so it's can even
then the convincing us and it's running
long time
possibly but I guess is a softball
question really but have you considered
tearing down under
now he said because I mean it could be
argued that means like also rate have
done a bit of the groundwork over the
years in the local market with of that
kind of a band of of your kind of sound
in them there you know diversity
well we would we've been trying to come
down to Australia for a while we
actually almost locked in a plan last
machine things changed a little bit but
just know that yeah it's either going to
be this summer or early next year but
there is there's a contingency it's like
trying to calm down there i would like
to go to be feeling that would be almost
more of a priority for me personally I
don't do you see a country so I it will
happen from the next play that in one
where her and thank you for this thing
that's my deal with ex-husband in the
band solution and now i will go into
some of the character max about topic
which i have yet to prepare properly
this is off the top of the calf's if it
turns into a bit of a rent a mile ago
from the tangent i do apologize i will
try and keep on the straight and error i
guess the one-sided podcasting and had
added to a proper podcast many a year
ago me a month ago one of my regular
features or whatever I wanted to include
was to look at studies academic studies
into music into middle one thing is
interested in raising of finding some of
what our people research into and
discoveries are into the mechanics of
middle of music and then so we look into
there and I think it's particularly
spirit on by some of the misconceptions
misconceived ideas that people have in
regards to heighten grounds to headlines
when somebody studies spread about on
social media
unfortunately well fortunate for me was
entertaining but unfortunately for my
work on the podcast i clears and the HBO
series John Oliver last week tonight
which i'm a fan off cafard the idea of
what i was trying to get with the
signature on scientific studies about
how people sort of morally sort of close
to the market in
anyway what I was getting it we're
studying might say one thing but the
headline or the takeaway message the
social media claims from that is
entirely different so might link the
future cat give me the water at
wordpress.com they might be a link to
the official video of that are the
statement i'm referring to on youtube
but i wanted to cover to study the first
one being a Spotify number-crunching
exercise where they determined that
heavy metal was the most loyal genre
available i guess around which is good
news for fans will know that the second
one was a study looking into the health
and well-being of music fans i guess or
people who are fans music and who were
into musicians and who went whatever and
and found that heavy metal people were
the happiest or something
it's the first time we talked about and
Spotify number question exercise but in
all fairness Spotify heaven that's what
I still have up there now they have a
insights blog used to anyway as very was
insightful and a very interesting
because they don't have a lot of data
from uses and and one particular polish
there were putting some numbers and
comparing the number of streams same
number of plays a band's song received
and found a ratio of that over the
amount of people who would doing they're
playing and it turns out that his middle
had the highest ratio of numbers of
plays to listen some values that ratio
is a direct proxy for what they called
guess Barry and loyalty loyalty really
instead of i took the assumption of
probably fair enough of various pains
genres and that made the call that his
middle was it the most loyal fans or
with the most loyal it was mostly with
it is it's not so going into what the
fans are actually doing
I think if you're going to say his
middle fans of the most loyal
and it all comes down to whether they
are just really there's nothing to
suggest that something might happen to
like your Metallica Slayer you're
interested negative but their music
catalog might not consist of one hundred
percent middle there's nothing saying
that they don't also listen to punk rock
whatever is going on you know that they
are in fact not down with them you know
confines of one-on-one and enhance not
particularly loyal to the middle for
example not that it's a bad thing that's
that's that's my issue with it saying
they come out saying he was the most
loyal was like that's awesome that's
good news is this a good headline that
we like to hear
we will do that you know we have just
been qualified but then you look at it
read the numbers and it's just it's not
what it's saying it was saying that
middle Baines to get more lessons /
listens . listener which could be taken
as a form of loyalty but that right
I don't think that's quite accurate
another one was where the headlines were
that his little friends at the happiest
go Samuel no signs and basically it
affirmed what I found was that his
middle fans were no different musicians
were no different to anyone else over
similar sort of thing what it did find
was that heavy metal fans remember being
happier in their teenage years when I
rocking out to all these classics it was
not is however as was reported that
might turn out to be more to choose for
there to be more happier another it's a
so it's grammatically correct so is with
anything a lot of things and that takes
time but if place before you go out and
spread box on social media that sort of
things and just get a wave of BS
circulating he seems too good to be true
in terms of middle studies studies and
stuff then go back to the source
material go back to the research anyway
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