Elon,
can not believe what he's hearing.
Yeah, I don't know man. That's
like famous last words. Actually,
I'm not interested in a Mars.
You want to see a guy who can't
believe what he's hearing.
You know sometimes people just let out
a little laugh in the hear something and
it's so unexpected. There's
like, Oh they can't contain it.
Elon Musk is talking to Jack Ma,
the richest guy in China
just a couple of days ago.
He resigned from being the CEO of Alibaba.
It's a huge commerce company over there
so you can trade with China easily and
that this AI event where they're talking
about their two thoughts on AI and its,
I don't know who matched these guys up
because Elon Musk is one of the four
thinkers on AI and Jack ma.
I actually used to kind of follow
him for some of his business advice.
He literally like, I hate to say this,
I've lost a lot of respect for the dude
because what are smart people do when
they don't know something they admit
they don't know and they try to learn.
They default to the person who has a
better vantage point, better information,
better experience, better knowledge.
But ma it almost like kind of
these little condescending ways,
like making these comments about
muscular, like his thoughts on AI.
They're hard to believe.
So I want to break down socially what's
going on between these two so you can
understand what's going on.
Cause there's a lot of funny
stuff going on behind the scenes.
So let's roll this footage and I'll come
back on and we'll break down exactly
what happened.
I'm told that he, I mean love like that.
There's like a name AI sort of
sounds a bit like that. Yeah. A,
I hate the word AI called
artificial intelligence.
I call it Alibaba intelligence. What
might might end up being true for, yeah.
All right. That's the first day, you know,
this is heading in the wrong direction
when the first thing he says is AI should
have a new meaning. Alibaba's
Jack MA's company intelligence.
So Elon's like you can see his reaction,
watch his reaction here and it's
the first thing he's like, okay,
maybe we'll this guy side. Cause Jack
ma, he's gotta be incredibly smart.
He started, I think it is the
biggest company in China right now.
And he starts out with something like
this. So watch, watch Alan's reaction.
This is the first time that he
has to deal with Jack Ma's antic
the word AI called
artificial intelligence.
I call it Alibaba intelligence. Yeah.
It might might end up being
true. You never know. Um,
doesn't even know what to say.
I think generally people, um,
underestimate the w the
capability it capability of AI,
you know, if like, can a chimpanzee
really understand humans?
Not really, you know, probably
as much, much greater. So
I will tell you, Elon Musk is not
the most clear with his words.
Things are popping around his
brain going every which way.
So a lot of times he talks
in weird antidotes and
correlations and it is kind of
hard to understand. That's an
example of that right there.
The biggest mistake that I see artificial
intelligence researchers making is
assuming that they're intelligent.
Yeah. They're not compared to AI.
And so like a lot of them cannot imagine.
And towards the end of this video, I'll
show you something really interesting.
Ilan makes this mistake consistently.
I know a lot of people
that have this mistake too.
It's when you have a cork
that you consistently have,
I'm going to teach you a real easy,
quick way to address that and to kind
of diffuse it so you come out looking
better than if you just continue to
make the mistake. Lucky on mosquitoes,
I hope they're nice. I
mean I have some, you know,
I think in a situation where you,
so one of the good things that [inaudible]
does is he does let Elon must talk.
A lot of times when you have
differing opinions with someone else,
the tendency is to want to jump in, say
how you disagree, ask probing questions,
try to get clarity or to prove that you're
right or show them that you're smart.
But mod does a good job of just
sitting there and letting must tacos.
One of the things must does is he has
long pauses in between his thoughts to,
it's hard to tell if he's still going
on a thought or if you want someone else
to talk. So Mazda very patient
from that standpoint. Yeah.
I'm always amazed by what your
vision about the technology.
I'm not a tech guy.
Okay. Now that is very important.
That's the one thing that Moss said to
give Elon Musk accolades and that was
very planned because he wanted to preface
this whole thing cause he knew he was
gonna basically come out
and say everything that he
thinks Elon Musk is wrong.
So it was very strategic to say,
even though it was kind of ambiguous.
I'm always interested to hear your
thoughts on this cause I'm not a tech guy.
That's how he sets it up. But listen
to how the tone turns a little.
I think I'm all by life. I think a,
I is going to open a new chapter of the
society of the world that people tried
to understand ourselves better.
99.99% of the predictions that human
being had in history about the future.
All wrong, including that one. Oh yeah.
I like [inaudible] must share there.
He's usually so serious. I like that.
Light-heartedness see, and what he did
there is he says later in the interview,
he corrects him. He's like, what?
It's like 99.9% of human predictions
are wrong or he doesn't agree with that.
So I think this is a real nice way
for him to kind of call them out,
like calling me out of the
spy, you and that one's wrong,
but look at the good cheer and the
good mood that he's got about that.
I think that's actually Elon
Musk nicest move in this thing.
I wish you would do more of that in
these very serious dry conversations
about the future all wrong,
including that one. Oh yeah.
Zero zero 0% of the
prediction are right there.
Right. Because by accident,
look at him. He's, he's, he's, he tries
to stop himself there with the hand up,
but then has to go watch,
right. They're right. Because
by exercise too. Yeah.
But it's also true that 80%
of statistics are false. Yeah,
so my meeting room, come
on guys. It was a joke.
That was another good thing. That
was another good thing. So Elon Musk,
a lot of times he's talking are these
hardcore scientists and they're there.
Maybe they don't have the
most developed sense of humor.
A lot of times people who have like
ridiculously high IQs just don't roll with
humor as much because they're
thinking about things so logically.
But Eli told the joke the crowd
didn't react. He's like, come on guys.
That's a joke. Loosen up. Tough
crowd. Cold crowd. I think he says.
I think that was a great
thing to [inaudible] room.
Come on guys. Those joke,
and it's a nice, when you call
something out like that too,
it ups your social status because you're
the authority telling them they're
wrong for not laughing at that joke. That
actually works in a normal situation.
Like let's say you're out with some
people and they think they're a little bit
cooler than you and there's somebody else.
There's is new and it's kind of
important for you to come across.
While he'd tell a joke, nobody laughs.
[inaudible] little crack like geez,
tough crowd here and then
right onto something else.
It acknowledges the fact that you told
the joke and didn't get a laugh because
if you tell a joke and just don't
get a laugh and don't say anything,
you can kind of look,
look like people just kind of go in their
shell and they're embarrassed and shy
and they wish you would've made that
joke. You're verbally acknowledging it,
show you showing competence to actually
acknowledge that the joke fell flat,
but then you're turning it, almost
blaming them. Like that was a good joke.
You guys didn't even laugh.
He's tough crowd here.
You guys' heads are in the sky
anyway, right onto something else.
So that's actually a very, there's a lot
of layers to that and why that works.
So that was very well played from a,
from you on college
smarten is people like us.
Street-smart we never scared of that.
We think it's a great fun and
we're never scared of that.
So he's saying because he's
street smart, not book smart,
he's not scared of that.
He's not scared of artificial and
he doesn't even understand it.
So for him to have the Bravos
and the bravado to say,
we're not scared of, that's ridiculous.
That's like some third graders,
I'm not scared of Mike Tyson. I'm
quicker on the jungle gym than he is.
It's like, dude, come on,
you don't even understand that this was
the first time. And I was like, wow,
this guy's really off his rocker.
And to start off by saying he's not a
technologist and he's not into technology,
and then to have such strong opinions in
the face of what the actual leaders in
the movement are saying,
I think it's ridiculous.
I think you probably heard of a guy named
Ray Delaney, I think it's pronounced.
He was the CEO of Bridgewater, a big
thing, his biggest hedge fund ever.
And he says, when you're factoring
in opinions and thoughts,
always defer to the person with the most
experience in that exact thing and wait
his thoughts more heavily.
So if you're sitting in a meeting and
there's three people and you've got Jack
ma who has some AI developments in his
company, they actually just came out,
his company developed a
chip that's super advanced,
but he himself doesn't know much
about that. He's not involved in that.
So he is a little interest. But how
much involvement you've got Elan Musk,
who's a fore thinker in the movement and
say you've got someone else who's just
like taking notes.
So any thought that Elon Musk has on
it should carry 90 95% more weight than
what Jack [inaudible] when
they're making decisions.
So if they were in the same room,
I thought this is actually
really important that it's,
it's kind of good to take people's egos
out of it because what if you're in a
meeting and there's a CEO and a line
level employee who works on the line,
so he's much lower in the hierarchy,
but he's much more competent when
discussing things about the line.
So maybe the CEO has spent
some time on the line.
He knows how it works a little
bit versus the guy on the line.
When you look at things that way
and you say, okay, we're gonna wait.
The opinion of the person that has more
direct experience and the CEO adheres to
that methodology and that thinking,
what's easier for him to be like, yeah,
okay, I actually think this,
but I see you're on the line and you have
much better opinion, advantage point,
what's going on? We're going
to go with that. A lot of CEOs,
even if they knew the line
worker was right, they'd be,
it'd be hard for them to swallow their
pride and be like, Oh, I was wrong there.
Right? But when you had
this methodology laid out,
it's easy to defer to it and just say,
okay, it doesn't matter who you are.
Doesn't matter to the present United
States or Streetsweeper if we're talking
about streets, we'd been,
his arguments and his thoughts
are going to be weighed higher.
So I think that's just a strong component
to understand and leadership and
unfortunately MA's definitely not
exhibiting that. In this instance,
we will learn to change ourself
to embrace it. I don't know, man.
That's like famous last
words. I like that too.
He's got on fire at the
beginning of this interview.
He said he was other interviews a lot of
times he's so stiff and always getting
in some jabs and hooks and funny
comments. What do you think about that?
Actually, I'm not interested in a
Mars. I just came back from there so
I don't get that joke clearly.
He's trying to make a joke but
he says I'm at that instead.
I just came back from Mars like that
would be funny if he was referring to like
some crazy trip he took like to some
country and it was just out of control.
He's like, man, I felt like I
was on Mars but with no context.
I truly don't even know if that's,
I mean I think it's a joke but
I've no idea what it means.
It's definitely not funny to someone
that doesn't know the inside or behind it
maybe. And to give him
as much credit as I can.
Maybe before the talk and
they started recording,
he was talking with the crowd and he was
talking about some place he just came
back from and it felt
crazy. I don't think so,
but that's the only way that
joke would carry any weight.
What do you think about that?
Actually, I'm not interested in a Mars,
so for him also to say
he's not interested. Mars,
Elon Musk's Lifework is to get to Mars.
He started some payment processing
thing. He started PayPal,
he started Tesla.
He started all these things so we could
have enough money to start space X and
populate Mars. It's like his life dream.
That's like going up to LeBron
James and interview and saying,
I'm not really that interested in the NBA,
and I think there's more important
things to be to be focused on.
Even if you believe that it shows terrible
social skills to say something like
that. Even if you wouldn't even
want to couch something like that,
if you really felt that way, you'd want
to pose a question. So you want to be,
why are you so interested
in going to Mars, LeBron?
Why do you think the NBA is so important
and let them talk versus making any
kind of statement like that.
That's, that's terrible form.
I just came back to see
his reaction. I mean,
he's just like whatever
dude back from there. So
that's what's called a courtesy laugh.
I'm more interested in [inaudible].
He's not ha, look at that face.
Look how serious and unhappy and angular
he doesn't even want to be taught.
I think that may be the
point that he's like,
why did I agree to talk to this guy?
Look at that somber, angry phase.
The things, what's
going to happen in here.
So just a a foe head nod
to feign agreement where
clearly he doesn't agree with
anything that he's saying. It's almost
like a meditation to not say anything.
Just like, just let let him talk.
Why you're so curious about the Mark
and I'm not that
fun of the Mars because I think
it's easy to go to the Mars way.
You go on the top of the
Hills or all of the building,
just a one step. You go to Mars, what?
Look at you on Musk's
face there. He's like,
can't even wrap his
head around these guys.
See you go to the top of the building,
you take one step and you're there.
Okay dude who would never
be able to come back. Yeah.
But that's how it works
though. And also look at,
look at that nervous Twitch. Eli just
rubbing his pant leg, rub it as knees,
like so feeling so awkward and uh, so,
so I hate to go to like, that's awkward.
Shoulder comes up, body gets stiff. He
just can't believe what he's hearing.
My view is that by the
artificial intelligence or
a I,
when human beings understand
ourself better that we can
improve the water better
lasted 200 years. Human
being charged. You see that?
I actually think this is a good point.
I think one of the things
that AI is going to do,
not to make this a tech technology talk,
but help us understand ourselves better
because we don't understand anything
about our brain like really when you
look into it or anything like that.
So I agree with this with much, but
then notice, or excuse me for ma,
but notice what he does after
he makes his point intelligent
a I,
when human being understand ourself better
that we can improve the water better.
Alaska 200 see that? That's
called a ping. So pinging,
you're just checking the other person,
the eyes to see what their response is.
It means you care. Typically a lot
of pinging, think about it in your,
in your day to day life, a lot of
pinging shows low social status,
cause you're looking around to be sure
that you're behaving in a socially
accepted way or the high status person.
Like if you're backstage at a concert,
notice everyone,
they're trying to act like they're
not looking at the big rock star,
but everyone's constantly pinging off
him to see what he's doing because he's
setting the frame. He's
setting the standard.
Be sure he's not looking
at you like you're a dummy.
That's actually more an advanced social
skill. I go into that specifically,
much more in depth in a program I have
called the social invincibility program
that explains all these little nuances
and helps you be able to come up with
things to say when you meet new people.
So many people run out of
things to say they feel awkward,
they're looking around that feel
uncomfortable and it ends poorly.
And then just knowing there's a good
chance that's going to happen a lot of
times prevents them from even going
up to strangers to make new friends or
acquaintances at the workplace.
So do you wanna check that out and can
go to social invincibility.com or I'll
put a link in the description below or
I'll put a card up here that you can
touch on. It'll take you there.
I'll talk you more about it in a,
in a quick video over there.
And we have a new mall,
new problems that come up though.
That's my view about jobs.
Don't worry about it.
Will you will have jobs.
Yeah. I, I,
I think [inaudible]
see I don't think, okay, look at
this. This his, his little, yeah,
looking off makes people think
that he's being sarcastic.
Like just saying. Yeah. Like
letting the crowd laugh.
Like it was a big joke and look
at even even Moz reaction there.
He's like a little bit of a sheepish
smile. Like he's getting made fun of.
I don't think Musk is
trying to make photo.
I think Musk is trying to
gather his thoughts and here
I'm going to tell you the
last point of his, of the thing I was
talking about earlier in the video,
something he could do
really easy to improve.
But watch how this plays
out first you have jobs.
Yeah, go nervous. He's with his hand.
I think that, yeah, over
time AI will make jobs. Do
you see? It looks like he's staring
off to a man on Mars right now.
He hasn't unfixed his gaze to the back
of the room and that's not where people
are sitting. That's just like a blank
spot on the wall. Kind of pointless.
So what he could do,
and he does this all the time and he
gets into this weird monotone delivery,
pointless. We better move
fast AI. It could be very bad.
So I was like famous last words and
that's just the way his brain works.
And I'm not sure that he ever,
I mean I don't think a guy like this
really wants to allocate that much time to
becoming super socially smooth.
I mean if he did improve some,
some simple things, he'd definitely
get his point across easier.
But all he needs to do, knowing
he does this all the time,
is the first time he
finds himself doing this.
Just call it out to the
crowd and be like, listen,
I know sometimes I stare off like a
zombie when I'm trying to get my thoughts
together.
Just give me a minute what I do that and
then every time he does it it's not as
weird. And if you had something weird,
like sometimes people will have something
like very seriously can't control like
Tourette's or or, or maybe an I, I
don't know what the technical term is.
The scientific term is, but an eye
that doesn't focus with the other eyes.
I'm sort of a cross side thing.
Like maybe across side thing
is not something you should,
you should bring up every time,
but something like what Elon Musk has
or Tourette's when you just acknowledge
it, acknowledge,
basically you want to acknowledge
anything that could make other people
uncomfortable or feel that
what you're doing is weird.
So an example that I used to use was,
let's say I was sitting down in a
meeting and I was just seated in the sun,
so the sun was shining
directly in my eyes.
So it looked like I was kind of squinting
and angry and I knew it come across
that way.
So right off the bat when I realized the
first thing would be just to move your
chair, but there is no active in my chair.
So all I did is bring it up and say,
Hey, pardon. If it looks
like I'm squinting,
you're trying to pick a fight with
you, the sun is just very, uh,
intense in my eyes, so
please be aware of that.
And I may bring that up every 10 to 15
minutes so it doesn't get out of the
subconscious. So Elon Musk,
all he needs to do is acknowledge
at one time, at the very beginning,
and then people are gonna forgive it
and it's going to become a moot point
versus every time he starts talking
and you're like, what is he looking at?
What's he staring at? Very easy fix.
Probably the last job that will remain
will be doing writing AI software and
then eventually the AI will
just write its own software.
So I don't know, I suppose I would
recommend studying engineering, physics,
that kind of thing.
You want to talk about monotone, that's
like two notes, engineering, physics,
that kind of thing as opposed and the
rhythm is just so flat. It's just like,
you know, this is actually
something, you know,
I talk about the social invincibility,
there's really two big cores of of social
interaction and how people are gonna
perceive you and your status and people
assign so much status to you or lack of
it before you even talk based on your sub
communication. So things like pinging,
you know, body language, eye
contact, all those things are big.
But what are we seeing right
now from Ilan? Vocal tonality.
The way that you speak matters so
much in how people perceive you.
People will not believe you even
if you're a four. Look at this guy.
He is a forefront expert
on rockets and space.
Travel and mottoes and believe him at
peace spoke with more certainty, right?
Complete conviction in his voice.
A strong convinced tonality
is a convincing tonality.
That is something I'm
really passionate about.
The tonality is the quickest fix
to any social problem at all.
Cause I've seen people with very good
social skills, both poor tonality,
those can all completely be swept
aside. But I'll tell you what,
you got some strong pipes
and you sound convincing.
You can get away with not knowing what
you're talking about with having poor
social skills simply because of the way
you talk. And that's my other program.
Those are my two main programs of social
invincibility program and the vocal
power bootcamp. And if that's
something that you want to improve,
I'd highly suggest you take a look at it.
I've got a quick video there that'll
walk you through what you can expect to
learn from it and how you can expect
the sound afterwards. It's good.
A vocal power bootcamp.com or I'll put
a link to that in the description below.
Fundamentally interacting
with other people.
So if you're working on something
that involves people or engineering,
it's probably a good, a good approach. Um,
I can't even watch it. I'm so bored.
And he's like the smartest one of the
most interesting guys on the planet.
And I can't watch this.
This is like a 50 minute interview and
it just continues on like this with Moss
and just things. So I'm going
to cut it off right here,
but if you want to see a YouTube video
free video that I've got on how to
increase your vocal power and tonality,
I'll put a link to that right here.
You can click on it and
I'll talk to you there now.
So the three types of vocal
tonality or report seeking rapport,
neutral and rapport breaking.
