
English: 
- Having watched Game Changers
having watched What the Health.
It got us thinking well actually,
what a prudent opportunity
we're twins.
- You know you watch all these
like Hugo said you watch
all these documentaries
on Netflix take Game
Changers and it really does
make you go, should we all be doing this?
- [Man] For 12 weeks
Hugo Turner on the right
picked a vegan diet
While Ross Turner on the
left ate a meat heavy,
omnivorous diet.
- And so we tossed a coin
for it, I got the vegan
Ross got the meat, and we did
a 12 week training program.
- So we're getting
exactly the same calories
but obviously just from
different food profiles.
- And yeah, the results were amazing.
- So let's look at the results
from these two 31 year old
identical twins who decided
to try a plant based diet
versus a meat based diet.
- I did have a lot of
moments on my meat diet
that was like, I'm
really not feeling great.
- I didn't' really have much
in the way of aches and pain,
I have to say.
- Your performance in
the gym was far better
I would be a little moaning
and don't have the energy

Chinese: 
雨果：當我們看完《茹素的力量》、
還有《健康不可告人的秘密》，
-上述都是Netflix的紀錄片-
讓我們有個主意，這是個實驗的好機會，
因為我們是雙胞胎。
羅斯：就像雨果說的，你看了這些Netflix的紀錄片
《茹素的力量》，讓你真的會想嘗試看看，
那我們要一起試試看嗎？
有12週的時間，右邊的雨果特納選擇純素飲食；
有12週的時間，右邊的雨果特納選擇純素飲食；
而左邊的羅斯透納則以肉品為主的食肉飲食。
而左邊的羅斯透納則以肉品為主的食肉飲食。
雨果：我們用丟銅板決定，我選到純素飲食，
羅斯選到吃肉，然後我們做了為期12週的訓練程序。
羅斯：我們攝取了完全一樣的熱量，
但是食物的種類是不一樣的。
雨果：而且，結果很令人驚豔。
那麼，我們來看看這兩位31歲的同卵雙胞胎兄弟，
(Klaus Mitchell，Plant Based News創辦人)
他們的植物性飲食對決食肉飲食的結果如何？
他們的植物性飲食對決食肉飲食的結果如何？
羅斯：我的確有幾次在吃肉的時候
有發現到 "我真的感覺不太妙"。
雨果：老實說，我則是不太有感覺到什麼痛苦或疼痛
雨果：老實說，我則是不太有感覺到什麼痛苦或疼痛
羅斯：你在健身房的表現比我好很多。
我會因為缺乏精力而開始抱怨：

English: 
or I'm sore or I can't be bothered.
Where as you were always sparkly
and going, yeah I'm fine.
- This adds up the
numerous success stories
from documentaries like What the Health
and The Game Changers as well as
from the scientific literature.
- Vegan diet is very
much more stable in terms
of sugar delivery during the day whereas
a meat is you get the ups and downs,
which was really interesting.
- There are multiple reasons for this,
but the most commonly cited
among scientific research
is lack of fiber increase
content of fat in meat.
- I'd probably say generally
I was a little bit higher,
20, 30% higher in fat.
- The real twist though,
is for meat based Ross
saying even though he felt more lethargic
he put on more muscle mass.
Meat based Ross gained 4
kilograms in muscle mass
during the experiment.
Where as plant based
Hugo stayed more leveled,
gaining only 1.2 kilograms of muscle mass.
- I managed to gain about
4 kilos of muscle mass.
So as Hugo was staying
level at around 70 kilos
I went from 71 and a half
kilos of muscle mass to 75.

Chinese: 
"我開始酸痛了" 或是 "別煩我"。
但是你總是充滿活力地繼續做，然後說： "是嗎，我感覺很好。"
這結果只是眾多成功故事中又添增一筆，
像是紀錄片《健康不可告人的秘密》、
以及《茹素的力量》、
以及許多的學術研究。
羅斯：純素飲食在醣類傳導的表現上更加穩定
純素飲食在醣類傳導的表現上更加穩定
相比之下吃肉則是會忽高忽低
這是很有趣的結果。
這是很多原因所造成的，
但從科學研究中發現最主要的原因是
因為缺乏纖維素，造成肉類的油脂較多。
雨果：我要說，我大概比雨果多了20-30%的脂肪。
雨果：我要說，我大概比雨果多了20-30%的脂肪。
更戲劇性的是，吃肉的羅斯說，
雖然他感覺更容易昏昏欲睡，
但其實他長出了更多的肌肉量。
吃肉的羅斯在實驗中增加了4公斤的肌肉量，
吃肉的羅斯在實驗中增加了4公斤的肌肉量，
而素食的雨果則比較維持在原本的水準
只有增加了1.2公斤的肌肉量。
羅斯：我增加了大概4公斤的肌肉量
而雨果則保持在70公斤左右的水平。
我從71.5公斤的肌肉量成長到75公斤。

Chinese: 
雨果：我有感覺變弱了嗎？沒有，其實沒有。
這關於你想要在運動上使用多少能量，
而我有大量的正向精神能量可以貫注進去
 
羅斯：我們在每天的健身房訓練都使用同樣的舉重，
羅斯：我們在每天的健身房訓練都使用同樣的舉重，
所以這也可能也是另一個重點，
我們舉一樣的重量、一樣的循環次數
我們舉一樣的重量、一樣的循環次數
這很令人震驚，吃素的雨果
雖然他感覺更好、更不會昏昏欲睡、
還有更多的能量，但卻沒有增加太多的肌肉量。
如果深入來看，這是因為吃肉的羅斯
增加了2.8公斤的脂肪，
而吃素的雨果則反而在實驗中減少1公斤的脂肪
而吃素的雨果則反而在實驗中減少1公斤的脂肪
此外，吃肉的羅斯在膽固醇指數維持在6.5的高標，
此外，吃肉的羅斯在膽固醇指數維持在6.5的高標，
而吃素的雨果則在實驗過程中降低到4.9的健康標準範圍。
而吃素的雨果則在實驗過程中降低到4.9的健康標準範圍。
如果雨果繼續維持植物性飲食的話，
他遭遇膽固醇疾病的風險也會更低。
但問題是，他們兩位想要繼續維持純素飲食嗎？
但問題是，他們兩位想要繼續維持純素飲食嗎？
羅斯：我們都不會成為完全的純素者。

English: 
- Did I feel weak? No, I actually had
it's how much energy you want
to put into your exercise,
and I had loads of positive
mental energy going in,
so I..
- We were lifting exactly the same
daily during our gym routine,
so that's probably another,
a key point, is that
we were lifting identical
weights and doing exactly
the same reps.
- It's been mind blowing
that plant based Hugo,
all thought he felt
better, was less lethargic,
and had more energy, didn't
put on as much muscle mass.
But the plot thickens,
because meat based Ross
put on 2.8 kilograms of fat.
Whereas plant based Hugo
lost one kilogram of fat
during the experiment.
In addition, meat based
Ross' cholesterol stayed high
at 6.5, which is above average.
Whereas plant based Hugo's
cholesterol went down
for the healthy range of
4.9 during the experiment.
If Hugo sticks to a plant
based diet, he's got
much lower risk of chronic disease.
But the question is, are
either of them going to stick
to the vegan diet?
- We're not going to
go totally both vegan.

Chinese: 
因為我們在旅行的過程中很難完全做到純素，
你如果想去格陵蘭看因紐特人，
或是跟他們生活在一起，那邊沒有素食選項，
你不吃鯨魚，就只能挨餓。
感謝Physicians Committee提供影片內容。
如果你想要看完整的Physicians Committee的Chuck Harrell與這兩位雙胞胎的完整訪談
如果你想要看完整的Physicians Committee的Chuck Harrell與這兩位雙胞胎的完整訪談
請點選Physicians Committee的Youtube頻道。
謝謝你的觀賞，我們下次見。
 
 

English: 
Just because on an expedition
it's very hard to go vegan.
If you're going to see Inuits in Greenland
or staying with them,
there is not vegan option.
It's either eat whale
or kind of go hungry.
- Thank you to the physician's
comity for the video content
and if you wanna see the
full interview between
Chuck Harrell of the physician's
comity and the two twins
check out the video on the
physician's comity YouTube page.
Thank you for watching, see you soon.
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