>>> OUR BREAKING NEWS TONIGHT.
THREE OFFICERS DEAD, THREE 
WOUNDED IN BATON ROUGE.
A TOUGH DAY FOR BATON ROUGE AND 
FOR THE COUNTRY.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO KEEP 
OUR POLICE SAFE IS SHERIFF DAVID
CLARK OF MILWAUKEE COUNTY, 
WISCONSIN.
HE'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING AT THE
REPUBLICAN CONVENTION TOMORROW 
NIGHT.
SHERIFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THAT.
HORRIFIC DAY.
SPOKE TO THE HEADS OF THE 
SHERIFF DEPARTMENT AND POLICE 
DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE POLICE 
DOWN THERE.
THEY TOLD US HOW THEIR HEARTS 
WERE REELING.
THEIR MESSAGE IS PEACE AND 
COMING TOGETHER IN THE COUNTRY.
WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE?
>> YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOR 
ONE MINUTE, DO YOU?
>> THAT THEIR MESSAGE IS?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID TO ME.
>> OKAY.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THEM.
>> PROTESTS OVER THE DEATHS OF 
THE COPS IN BATON ROUGE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT.
>> ANY RIOTS OR PROTESTS OVER 
THE POLICE OFFICERS IN DALLAS, 
TEXAS?
>> WHAT ARE YOU ASKING?
>> IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE 
QUESTION.
>> I ASKED YOU WHAT YOUR MESSAGE
TO THE PEOPLE, THEIR MESSAGE IS 
ONE OF PEACE.
WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE?
>> MY MESSAGE HAS BEEN CLEAR 
FROM DAY ONE TWO YEARS AGO.
THIS ANTI-COP SENTIMENT FROM 
THIS HATEFUL IDEOLOGY CALLED 
BLACK LIVES MATTER HAS FUELED 
THIS RAGE AGAINST THE AMERICAN 
POLICE OFFICER.
I PREDICTED THIS TWO YEARS AGO.
>> DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS WAS 
BECAUSE OF THAT?
>> YES, I DO.
>> AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT 
OFFICER -- 
>> I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR 
TWO YEARS.
I'VE PREDICTED THIS.
THIS ANTI-POLICE RHETORIC 
SWEEPING THE COUNTRY HAS TURNED 
OUT SOME HATEFUL THINGS INSIDE 
OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW PLAYING 
THEMSELVES OUT ON THE AMERICAN 
POLICE OFFICER.
I WANT TO KNOW WITH ALL OF THE 
BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE IN THE 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BY THE
WAY, WHEN THE TRAGEDIES HAPPENED
IN LOUISIANA AND MINNESOTA, YOU 
KNOW THAT 21 BLACK PEOPLE WERE 
MURDERED ACROSS THE UNITED 
STATES?
WAS THERE ANY REPORTING ON THAT?
>> BLACK OFFICER WHO WAS KILLED 
TODAY.
>> WAS THERE ANY REPORTING ON 
THAT?
>> SHERIFF, PLEASE.
LET'S JUST KEEP THE VIBE DOWN 
HERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND, AND, LISTEN -- 
>> I'M LOOKING AT THREE DEAD 
COPS THIS WEEK AND I AM LOOKING 
AT FIVE LAST WEEK.
YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME TO KEEP
IT DOWN?
>> CAN WE JUST PLEASE?
WE CAN KEEP IT CIVIL.
THE MESSAGE TO PEOPLE AT HOME, 
I'M SURE YOU WANT IS ONE OF 
CIVILITY.
>> DON, I WISH YOU HAD THAT 
MESSAGE OF CIVILITY -- 
>> I'M TRYING TO HAVE A 
CONVERSATION WITH YOU -- 
>> FOR THIS HATEFUL IDEOLOGY.
THESE PURVEYORS OF HATE.
>> WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS 
THESE PEOPLE -- ARE  WISCONSIN, 
HERE LIVE IN CLEVELAND, YOU'RE 
SET TO SPEAK TOMORROW.
AND ALL I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A 
CONVERSATION WITH YOU, I CAN'T 
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU IF 
WE'RE BOTH TALKING AT THE SAME 
TIME.
WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS 
THAT YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF 
VIOLENCE, BY SUPPORTING A 
NARRATIVE THAT I'M NOT 
NECESSARILY IN SUPPORT OF.
I DON'T SUPPORT VIOLENCE AGAINST
POLICE OFFICERS OR ANYONE.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A 
CONVERSATION, I AM MORE THAN 
WILLING TO WELCOME A 
CONVERSATION WITH YOU, I DON'T 
DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE'S A
NARRATIVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
THAT COULD BE HARMING POLICE 
OFFICERS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW 
RIGHT NOW, AS SOMEONE WHO WAS IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT, IF THAT WAS THE
ACTUAL CAUSE OF IT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, DO WE 
KNOW THAT GENERALLY THE AMERICAN
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE 
RACIST?
DO WE KNOW THIS?
>> GO ON.
>> I ASKED A QUESTION.
>> DO I KNOW THAT IN GENERAL 
AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS 
RA
RACIST?
IF YOU'RE ACCUSING THAT LAW 
ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY 
AS A WHOLE IS RACIST, THEN YOUR 
ASSUMPTION IS WRONG.
>> THIS WHOLE ANTI-POLICE 
RHETORIC IS BASED ON A LIE.
THERE IS NO DATA, AND YOU KNOW 
THIS, THERE IS NO DATA, THERE IS
NO RESEARCH THAT PROVES ANY OF 
THAT NONSENSE.
NONE.
>> YOU HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC 
ABOUT WHAT DATA AND WHAT 
NONSENSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
TREAT BLACK MALES DIFFERENT THAN
WHITE MALES IN POLICING IN THESE
URBAN CENTERS.
>> THERE IS DATA THAT SUPPORTS 
THAT.
>> THERE IS NOT DATA.
>> THE PRESIDENT SPOKE ABOUT IT.
CEDRIC ALEXANDER, WHO'S A LAW 
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
>> THE PRESIDENT IS LYING ABOUT 
IT.
HE SAID IT THE OTHER DAY WHEN HE
SAID THAT BLACK MALES ARE TWO 
TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT BY 
A WHITE POLICE OFFICER AN A 
BLACK POLICE OFFICER.
THAT IS A LIE.
>> THAT IS NOT A LIE.
THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE FROM 
"THE WASHINGTON POST" -- 
>> "THE WASHINGTON POST" 
DEBUNKED THAT NONSENSE.
>> SHERIFF, THERE'S ALSO 
RESEARCH -- 
>> HE CONTINUES.
>> FROM A HARVARD PROFESSOR THAT
ALSO SHOWED THAT BLACK PEOPLE 
ARE TREATED MORE AGGRESSIVELY BY
POLICE OFFICERS -- 
>> NO, YOU WHERE WRONG AND YOUR 
INTERPRETATION OF THAT HARVARD 
STUDY, I READ THE STUDY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT HE SAID.
HE SAID HE WAS SURPRISED TO 
FIND -- 
>> HE WAS SURPRISED TO FIND THAT
IN SHOOTINGS, THE MOST SEVERE IN
SHOOTINGS, HE FOUND NO EVIDENCE 
THAT THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE.
ALSO IT SHOULD BE NOTED, THAT 
THERE'S A STUDY OF A VERY SMALL 
SAMPLING OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, MANY DID NOT
FIND IT CREDIBLE.
BUT IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT 
IN THAT RESEARCH HE FOUND THAT 
BLACK WERE TREATED DIFFERENTLY 
WHEN IT CAME TO AGGRESSIVE 
POLICING.
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 
GENERALLY?
OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT POLICE 
OFFICERS BEING UNDER ATTACK.
LET'S GO BACK TO WHEN THIS WHOLE
THING STARTED IN FERGUSON. 
>> YOU'RE LUMPING A WHOLE BUNCH 
OF THINGS INTO ONE. 
>> THAT'S WHERE THIS WHOLE PHONY
MOVEMENT GOT STARTED. 
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLACK 
LIVES MATTER?
>> RIGHT.
>> SO YOU WOULD NEED TO SPEAK TO
SOMEONE WHO IS A MEMBER OF BLACK
LIVES MATTER ABOUT WHETHER THEY 
ARE -- HAVE PERPETRATED A FRAUD 
ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT'S 
UP TO BLACK LIVES MATTER, I'M 
NEITHER A MEMBER OF BLACK LIVES 
MATTER, I'M NEITHER A SUPPORTER 
OR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T SUPPORT 
THEM.
>> CAN YOU SUPPORT THE 
ANTI-POLICE RHETORIC COMING FROM
THIS HATEFUL IDEOLOGY.
>> AS A JOURNALIST SILTING ON 
TELEVISION, I DON'T HAVE TO 
CONDEMN ANYTHING.
IT'S OTH
. 
>> IT'S LIKE GROUPS LIKE THE 
KKK, I CONDEMN IT.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN AMERICAN 
DISCOURSE FOR THAT SORT OF VILE,
VITRIOLIC HATE COMING OUT OF 
THAT IDEOLOGY.
THIS HAS FUELED AND FANNED THE 
FLAMES OF THIS ANGER TOWARD THE 
AMERICAN POLICE OFFICER, THERE'S
ONLY ONE GROUP IN AMERICA, ONE 
TIME, THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT THE
LIVES OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE YOU
ARE BAN GHETTO, AND IT'S THE 
AMERICAN POLICE OFFICER, WHO 
GOES OUT THERE ON A DAILY BASIS,
TO PUTA ATHEIR LIVES ON THE LIN 
TO PROTECT WHO?
BLACK PEOPLE.
LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT 
THE BLACK ON BLACK CRIME WHICH 
KILLS MORE BLACK MALES, WHICH IS
MORE LIKELY IN THE UNITED STATES
THAN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT 
CONVERSATION.
WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE 
SAME TIME.
THERE'S AN ISSUE WHEN IT COMES 
TO VIOLENCE.
IT'S CRIME, WHITE PEOPLE TEND TO
KILL WHITE PEOPLE.
BLACK PEOPLE TEND TO KILL WHITE 
PEOPLE.
THERE IS A DIFFERENT 
CONVERSATION THAN POLICE 
BRUTALITY.
AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT 
CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH YOU, I 
CONDEMN ALL VIOLENCE OF ANY 
TYPE.
JUST FOR THE RECORD.
>> IT WAS A SITUATION BETWEEN 
MIKE BROWN AND DARREN WILSON, 
WAS THAT POLICE BRUTALITY?
>> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MIKE 
BROWN AND DAREN WILSON.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOWED, IT 
EXONERATED OFFICER CARRRCARREN  
DA
DACAR
DAREN WILSON. 
>> YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT 
BLACK MALES ARE OVERREPRESENTED 
IN TERMS OF BEING INVOLVED IN 
VIOLENT CRIME, THAT'S GOING TO 
MEAN MORE ARRESTS, MORE PEOPLE 
GOING TO PRISON.
THIS STUFF HAS ALREADY BEEN 
DEBUNKED.
>> SHERIFF, THERE'S A DIFFERENT 
CONVERSATION.
>> ANY TIME YOU DON'T HAVE A 
RESPONSE TO SOMETHING I SAY -- 
>> THE REASON I DON'T HAVE A 
RESPONSE IS THAT WE'RE HAVING 
TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS.
I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS HERE, 
YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS 
BY ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME 
OTHER SUBJECT THAT WE'RE NOT 
DISCUSSING, THAT'S NOT A 
CONVERSATION. 
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 
HATEFUL IDEOLOGY OF BLACK LIVES 
MATTER, YOU CAN'T BE A MEMBER, 
IT'S AN IDEOLOGY, IT'S A HATEFUL
IDEOLOGY.
>> I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY 
SENSITIVE TIME FOR YOU.
>> THESE INDIVIDUALS -- 
>> AND SHERIFF, WE APPRECIATE 
