>>> NEW YORK MAYOR BILL de      
BLASIO MAY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH 
BLASIO MAY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH 
THE SILENT ANGER OF THE OFFICERS
THE SILENT ANGER OF THE OFFICERS
WHO HAVE TURNED THEIR BACK IN   
WHO HAVE TURNED THEIR BACK IN   
PROTEST, BUT HE HAD IT EASIER   
PROTEST, BUT HE HAD IT EASIER   
THAN ONE OFPREDSENSECESSORS     
THAN ONE OFPREDSENSECESSORS     
FACED IN 1992 WHEN MORE THAN    
FACED IN 1992 WHEN MORE THAN    
10,000 OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS 
10,000 OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS 
AND THEIR SUPPORTERS DESCENDED  
AND THEIR SUPPORTERS DESCENDED  
UPON NEW YORK CITY'S CITY HALL  
UPON NEW YORK CITY'S CITY HALL  
IN A PROTEST AGAINST MAYOR DAVID
IN A PROTEST AGAINST MAYOR DAVID
DINKINS.                        
DINKINS.                        
"NEW YORK TIMES" STORY GAVE THIS
"NEW YORK TIMES" STORY GAVE THIS
DESCRIPTION OF THE SEEN THAT    
DESCRIPTION OF THE SEEN THAT    
DAY.                            
DAY.                            
A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, THEN       
A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, THEN       
HUNDREDS, THEN THOUSANDS BROKE  
HUNDREDS, THEN THOUSANDS BROKE  
THROUGH BARRICADES AND SURGED   
THROUGH BARRICADES AND SURGED   
ONTO CITY HALL STEPS.           
ONTO CITY HALL STEPS.           
FROM THERE, THE PROTEST DEJEN   
FROM THERE, THE PROTEST DEJEN   
RALTED INTO A BEER SWIRLINGMY   
RALTED INTO A BEER SWIRLINGMY   
LAY THAT STRETCHES FROM THE     
LAY THAT STRETCHES FROM THE     
BROOKLYN BRIDGE TO MURRAY       
BROOKLYN BRIDGE TO MURRAY       
STREET, WHERE SEVERAL           
STREET, WHERE SEVERAL           
POLITICIANS HELPED STOKE THE    
POLITICIANS HELPED STOKE THE    
FIRES.                          
FIRES.                          
THE PROTESTS WOULD HAVE BIB     
THE PROTESTS WOULD HAVE BIB     
NOTEWORTHY EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN  
NOTEWORTHY EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN  
ANY RALLY GONE TOO FAR, BUT THE 
ANY RALLY GONE TOO FAR, BUT THE 
PROTESTERS WERE THE POLICE.     
PROTESTERS WERE THE POLICE.     
THE OFFICERS WERE PROTESTING HIS
THE OFFICERS WERE PROTESTING HIS
RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF ISSUES  
RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF ISSUES  
INCLUDING A PROPEZAL TO CREATE A
INCLUDING A PROPEZAL TO CREATE A
CIVILIAN BOARD TO INVESTIGATE   
CIVILIAN BOARD TO INVESTIGATE   
POLICE MISCONDUCT, AND THE      
POLICE MISCONDUCT, AND THE      
FAMILY OF A DOMINICAN IMMIGRANT 
FAMILY OF A DOMINICAN IMMIGRANT 
WHO WAS KILLED BY THE POLICE    
WHO WAS KILLED BY THE POLICE    
OFFICERS THAT SPARKED UNREST IN 
OFFICERS THAT SPARKED UNREST IN 
NEW YORK.                       
NEW YORK.                       
THOSE IMAGES, THAT REMINDER OF  
THOSE IMAGES, THAT REMINDER OF  
1992, WHICH IS NOW MUCH LONGER  
1992, WHICH IS NOW MUCH LONGER  
AGO THAN I WOULD LIKE TO        
AGO THAN I WOULD LIKE TO        
REMEMBER AND ADMIT, IT MADE US  
REMEMBER AND ADMIT, IT MADE US  
PAUSE AND LOOK THROUGH THE      
PAUSE AND LOOK THROUGH THE      
HISTORY.                        
HISTORY.                        
ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S MUCH SAFER
ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S MUCH SAFER
TO BE A POLICE OFFICER IN THE   
TO BE A POLICE OFFICER IN THE   
MODERN ERA THAT IT HAS BEFORE.  
MODERN ERA THAT IT HAS BEFORE.  
IF WE LOOK AT '64 TO 2014,      
IF WE LOOK AT '64 TO 2014,      
THERE'S AN OVERALL SECULAR      
THERE'S AN OVERALL SECULAR      
DECLINE IN POLICE OFFICER DEATH,
DECLINE IN POLICE OFFICER DEATH,
ALTHOUGH THERE'S A SPIKE IN     
ALTHOUGH THERE'S A SPIKE IN     
2001.                           
2001.                           
BUT MOST RECENTLY, IN 2014, YOU 
BUT MOST RECENTLY, IN 2014, YOU 
DO SEE AN INCREASE OF 24% IN THE
DO SEE AN INCREASE OF 24% IN THE
DEATHS OF POLICE OFFICERS.      
DEATHS OF POLICE OFFICERS.      
56% OF THOSE DEATHS SPIKE BY    
56% OF THOSE DEATHS SPIKE BY    
FIREARM DEATHS, WHICH MAKES ME  
FIREARM DEATHS, WHICH MAKES ME  
WONDER, IS THE THING THAT'S     
WONDER, IS THE THING THAT'S     
REALLY DANGEROUS HERE THE NUMBER
REALLY DANGEROUS HERE THE NUMBER
OF GUNS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON   
OF GUNS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON   
THE STREETS?                    
THE STREETS?                    
>> SURE.                        
>> SURE.                        
WE HAVE A GUN CULTURE THAT WE --
WE HAVE A GUN CULTURE THAT WE --
IS THE THIRD WHEEL OF AMERICAN  
IS THE THIRD WHEEL OF AMERICAN  
POLITICS.                       
POLITICS.                       
TO THE EXTENT THAT POLICE       
TO THE EXTENT THAT POLICE       
OFFICERS SHOULD BE THE LARGEST  
OFFICERS SHOULD BE THE LARGEST  
ANTI-GUN LOBBY IN AMERICA,      
ANTI-GUN LOBBY IN AMERICA,      
TAKING ON THE NRA, DIRECTLY     
TAKING ON THE NRA, DIRECTLY     
RATHER THAN MAYORS OF CITIES    
RATHER THAN MAYORS OF CITIES    
THAT ARE TRYING TO GOVERN ALL   
THAT ARE TRYING TO GOVERN ALL   
THE PEOPLE AND TRYING TO        
THE PEOPLE AND TRYING TO        
ESTABLISH THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL 
ESTABLISH THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL 
HAS A RIGHT TO BE FEAR OF STATE 
HAS A RIGHT TO BE FEAR OF STATE 
VIOLENCE IS THE ELEPHANT IN THIS
VIOLENCE IS THE ELEPHANT IN THIS
CONVERSATION.                   
CONVERSATION.                   
THE DINKINS SITUATION, THOUGH, I
THE DINKINS SITUATION, THOUGH, I
THINK IS ALSO TELLING BECAUSE   
THINK IS ALSO TELLING BECAUSE   
PARTLY WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS A  
PARTLY WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS A  
REFLECTION OF A CULTURE OF WHITE
REFLECTION OF A CULTURE OF WHITE
MALE PRIVILEGE, AND I DON'T WANT
MALE PRIVILEGE, AND I DON'T WANT
TO GET STUCK ON THE PRIVILEGE   
TO GET STUCK ON THE PRIVILEGE   
QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO COME    
QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO COME    
BACK TO THIS, THAT THEY         
BACK TO THIS, THAT THEY         
REPRESENT WORKING CLASS AMERICAN
REPRESENT WORKING CLASS AMERICAN
HISTORY.                        
HISTORY.                        
>> AND THE POLICE FORCE DOES NOT
>> AND THE POLICE FORCE DOES NOT
LOOK LIKE THAT.                 
LOOK LIKE THAT.                 
I MEAN, AS AMY WAS POINTING OUT 
I MEAN, AS AMY WAS POINTING OUT 
LAST HOUR, THE IMAGES WE'RE     
LAST HOUR, THE IMAGES WE'RE     
SEEING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S 1992   
SEEING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S 1992   
NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT.     
NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT.     
AS A RESULT OF THE SOCIAL       
AS A RESULT OF THE SOCIAL       
MOVEMENTS, THE DEPARTMENT DOES  
MOVEMENTS, THE DEPARTMENT DOES  
NOT LOOK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.     
NOT LOOK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.     
>> MY POINT IS THAT, AND THIS IS
>> MY POINT IS THAT, AND THIS IS
EXACTLY THE POINT.              
EXACTLY THE POINT.              
THAT WE HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN A   
THAT WE HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN A   
LOOP FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS WHERE
LOOP FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS WHERE
RACIAL REPRESENTATIVE STANDS IN 
RACIAL REPRESENTATIVE STANDS IN 
FOR FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE, THE FACT
FOR FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE, THE FACT
THAT THE FORCE IS BLACKER OR    
THAT THE FORCE IS BLACKER OR    
BROWNER OR YELLOWER HAS NOT     
BROWNER OR YELLOWER HAS NOT     
CHANGED THE CULTURE OF POLICING 
CHANGED THE CULTURE OF POLICING 
AND THE SYSTEM THAT PUTS IT IN  
AND THE SYSTEM THAT PUTS IT IN  
PLACE.                          
PLACE.                          
THE TRADEOFF FOR OFFICERS AND I 
THE TRADEOFF FOR OFFICERS AND I 
CAN TELL YOU THIS FROM PERSONAL 
CAN TELL YOU THIS FROM PERSONAL 
EXPERIENCE.                     
EXPERIENCE.                     
I HAVE LECTURED AT JOHN J., I   
I HAVE LECTURED AT JOHN J., I   
HAVE STOOD BEFORE ROOMS OF      
HAVE STOOD BEFORE ROOMS OF      
GRADUATE STUDENTS AND           
GRADUATE STUDENTS AND           
UNDERKNRAJWITS, CURRENT OFFICERS
UNDERKNRAJWITS, CURRENT OFFICERS
AND SOON TO BE OFFICERS WHO     
AND SOON TO BE OFFICERS WHO     
REFER TO THE PEOPLE IN THE      
REFER TO THE PEOPLE IN THE      
COMMUNITIES THEY POLICE AS      
COMMUNITIES THEY POLICE AS      
PERPS, AS PEOPLE DESERVING OF   
PERPS, AS PEOPLE DESERVING OF   
EXCESSIVE FORCE, OF PEOPLE      
EXCESSIVE FORCE, OF PEOPLE      
DESERVING OF GUILT UNTIL PROVEN 
DESERVING OF GUILT UNTIL PROVEN 
INNOCENT.                       
INNOCENT.                       
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE YOUNG 
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE YOUNG 
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE BEING    
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE BEING    
PROFESSIONALIZED IN A COLLEGE,  
PROFESSIONALIZED IN A COLLEGE,  
AND YET THEY HAVE ALREADY MOVED 
AND YET THEY HAVE ALREADY MOVED 
TO THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THE   
TO THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THE   
PRICE OF ADMISSION, THE PRICE OF
PRICE OF ADMISSION, THE PRICE OF
THE TICKET TO PARTICIPATION ON  
THE TICKET TO PARTICIPATION ON  
THAT FORCE IS TO ACCEPT THAT    
THAT FORCE IS TO ACCEPT THAT    
THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE    
THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE    
SAME RIGHT TO EXIST IN THESE    
SAME RIGHT TO EXIST IN THESE    
COMMUNITIES.                    
COMMUNITIES.                    
>> OFFICER, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE  
>> OFFICER, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE  
TO LET YOU IN ON THAT.          
TO LET YOU IN ON THAT.          
>> YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING       
>> YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING       
BECAUSE WHAT OFTENTIMES OCCURS  
BECAUSE WHAT OFTENTIMES OCCURS  
IS THAT THE BLACKS OR LATINOS   
IS THAT THE BLACKS OR LATINOS   
WHO ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE     
WHO ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE     
POLICE DEPARTMENTS BECOME       
POLICE DEPARTMENTS BECOME       
SUBSUMED BY THE POLICE CULTURE  
SUBSUMED BY THE POLICE CULTURE  
AS OPPOSED TO THEIR OWN CULTURE 
AS OPPOSED TO THEIR OWN CULTURE 
OR THEIR EXPERIENCES.           
OR THEIR EXPERIENCES.           
SO WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT        
SO WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT        
REGARDLESS OF THE COMPLEXION OF 
REGARDLESS OF THE COMPLEXION OF 
THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, IF THEY 
THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, IF THEY 
ARE FOLLOWING A CERTAIN         
ARE FOLLOWING A CERTAIN         
PROCEDURE, IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING
PROCEDURE, IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING
A CERTAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR    
A CERTAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR    
ENFORCEMENT TREND, YOU WILL HAVE
ENFORCEMENT TREND, YOU WILL HAVE
THE SAME RESULT.                
THE SAME RESULT.                
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE     
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE     
RELATE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO 
RELATE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO 
SERVE AS POLICE OFFICERS.       
SERVE AS POLICE OFFICERS.       
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT POLICE
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT POLICE
OFFICERS ARE EMPATHETIC TO THOSE
OFFICERS ARE EMPATHETIC TO THOSE
THEY SERVE.                     
THEY SERVE.                     
IT'S BASIC CUSTOMER SERVICE.    
IT'S BASIC CUSTOMER SERVICE.    
BUT CHANGING THE COMPLEXION OF  
BUT CHANGING THE COMPLEXION OF  
THESE DEPARTMENTS WITHOUT THE   
THESE DEPARTMENTS WITHOUT THE   
NECESSARY REFORMS WILL BE       
NECESSARY REFORMS WILL BE       
DISAPPOINTING TO MANY PEOPLE WHO
DISAPPOINTING TO MANY PEOPLE WHO
ARE PUSHING FOR JUSTICE REFORM. 
ARE PUSHING FOR JUSTICE REFORM. 
>> I HAVE TO HOLD YOU FOR A     
>> I HAVE TO HOLD YOU FOR A     
SECOND BECAUSE WE WANT TO TAKE  
SECOND BECAUSE WE WANT TO TAKE  
YOU NOW LIVE TO BROOKLYN WHERE  
YOU NOW LIVE TO BROOKLYN WHERE  
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