I think I've been involved
in more science fiction movies,
if you think about it...
Yeah.
...than anyone else.
You've been to Mars.
You've been from --
in the future.
"Terminator,"
"Total Recall,"
and with
"The Running Man."
"The 6th Day"
where I get cloned.
Or even with "Twins,"
which is an experiment
that has not yet
really been --
"Twins" is a science
fiction movie.
And "Junior."
What was the one -- what was
the one where you were pregnant?
"Junior".
"Junior"
is science fiction
that a male carrying a baby
or something like that.
It's totally
science fiction.
I have been involved with
a lot of those movies.
Sometimes, we get a little too
serious about science fiction.
And there's
a lot of scholarly
thought that goes
into it and so on.
But sometimes, it's just
an expression of imagination.
But it's great
entertainment.
Exactly!
It's fantastic.
So, you're not staying up
late at night worrying about
our intelligent machines
taking over the world?
No. My crusade is
to make sure that we're going
in the clean energy future.
Right.
So, let's say we make it
artificial intelligence
and we give it the job
of saving the environment
and saving the climate,
and it comes up
with the final answer,
which is, there's no way
to save the environment
without getting all
these humans off the planet
'cause we're the problem.
I would argue all the way
against it.
[Laughter]
One of the things I've always
loved about you, Arnold,
is that you really have a great
sense of how people think.
How they are.
You really understand people.
So, ask yourself,
if there was a machine
that was smarter than us,
but it worked for us,
how long would it work for us?
And how long would we be
able to control it?
First of all,
I face
everyday technology
that is much smarter
than me.
[Laughs]
When I play on my iPad,
chess.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean,
it is ludicrous.
It kicks your ass.
But it's so quick.
I mean,
it counts the seconds...
Yeah.
...so it said 17 seconds
for me to make a decision.
Yeah.
But as soon as
I press the button,
where I'm gonna
put the horse,
1/10 of a second later,
it goes, boom.
Yeah, right.
It makes a move.
Yeah, right.
It doesn't even think.
No.
I just makes it --
Well, it's thinking,
it's just thinking faster.
Exactly. So, I see it all
the time, how technology --
how fast it is
that we can think,
how far superior it is
than the way we are.
And just like I said,
you can really program things
in such a way that it's really,
it's spectacular.
Now, where is it gonna go in
an evil way or a terrible way,
it can be possible.
Right.
But so much of
science fiction...
No, I know.
...has been about
the naive scientists
who see the wonderful
uses of a technology
and then
it gets perverted.
But, you know, the guys
that were first thinking
about nuclear power,
they were thinking about the
power of the atom and thinking,
"We could run
civilization on this."
Right.
But of course, what was
the first thing that was built?
It was a nuclear bomb.
That's why I don't -- it's not
the machines I don't trust,
it's the people
that I don't trust.
This is not easy stuff.
You know, that's why
we gotta continue
making
science fiction movies.
That's right.
