copenhagen's coming up
and welll
we art and discuss climate change
obviously
and now world leaders in a get together
and decide what to do about it or begin
the conversations about what to do about
it
uh... but in the midst of all the so
right before this
uh... there was this there's a scandal
called climactic caught leaking
uh... what is it
and is the real reason i realize what i
want to dress uh... here project so
for those of you haven't heard about it
it is
uh... somebody hacked into the system
of university pkwy ste anglia
and it took correspondence with some of
the most prominent american and british
climate researchers including act event
trend birth
and he's a climate
climatologist at the national center for
atmosphere
research
and he took these females and what all
the back nineteen ninety six
and they've got the couple incriminating
ones
and they say you see that what it shows
is the doctor the facts that they could
seem as if there is climate change
when in fact there is
now women do is basically
review
uh... the incriminating emails and we
have a discussion of whether they really
aren't waiting
first i wanted to say something right
off the bat
um...
one of the charges is that uh... these
guys were not kind
climate uh... change skeptics and they
said bad things about them in their
private lives
including somebody wanted
ko call them idiots
and another one set off of a point in
the face
these are private unit
correct and what they think of clients
get
i don't care who they want to push the
face that has nothing to do with climate
change
or you don't like that but maybe you
should the solar private emails
so that you we would never find out
about what they
they go at people uh... in their private
lives of christmas but it doesn't at
that point is one
million per cent
irrelevant
aldayt dj
john didn't like susan susan hill
excitable calves
so now
that was one of the four main things
that the
uh... skeptics complain about
and by the early with these emails
michelle maltbie and everybody else
claimed that that is over
dissipative that climate change never
happened
and that these guys are all life's
defended
so up that's it
one other for the got
the other uh...
part i want to say for the and as to how
to deal with the skeptics back to that
troubled me the most
uh... but here we go here is uh... email
over one that everyone is quote
uh... i've just completed my cs
nature trade at adding the real tends to
teach series for the last twenty years
i_d_ from nineteen eighty one onwards
and uh...
from nineteen sixty one for peace
the height of the clock
okay now
they think you see that
they're manipulating the numbers are
trying to hide declined
in one case and they're trying to do
mike's nature trick
uh... adding real temps
et cetera set so
now finally some journalists outside his
head without regard stalker
first of all pick yours up mike's nature
tree
is away
uh... today refer to a specific
thing that they do where they
quote technique of plotting recent
instrumental that up
along with reconstructed that
this place is recent global warming
trends in the context of temperature
changes
over a longer time periods oc talked
no they're referring to a specific thing
they do it's called bikes they prefer
it's refers to something that aside is
with the first able-bodied obviously
has that does not pay will treat people
with
the date and then
referring to decline
well that refers to pack a diversion
data that they have
uh... based on
clearings
versus reading of the temperature if you
read the temperature of the thermometer
temperature has been going down steadily
with the tree rings for some reason
they'll backup all of the other data
including a thermometer reading
so it's divergent and they're trying to
figure out how to explain that the clock
look it looks and sounds a little
incriminating and but amaya perfectly
satisfied without explanation
i'm not perfectly satisfied with it but
is it what uh...
uh... global warming skeptics are saying
are you see wide tracks and
masking declines the third
now of course so now we go to
email liberty
that uh... we have one climatologists
and run of the fact is that we can't
account for the lack of warning at the
moment
and it is a travesty
that uh...
so that sounds pretty devastating you
know
can account for like a warming at the
moment and a travesty
that we can't
cd already asked that i published in
august
uh... bans own eyes supplement
on two thousand eight shows
they should be even more warming
but the data are surely wrong or
observing system is inadequate
now this is that that's it dot g
the data is wrong but that is from your
own thing
and we can't have it is a travesty and
we wish to be sure the right
see all climate changes his job
news total like fabricated by all the
scientists who got together and
episcopal
of course what they didn't tell you it's
the context of the same
it is not referred to all the data
it is referring to one
out liar for the year two thousand eight
the background of the email is
that all the other data shows that
they're is warming
but for that year
this one particular data doesn't so what
they're trying to do is figure out why
why is it an outline why does it not
matched
the other death
so that is why it's troubling
it's not just rub lincoln's they got
quote on quote the wrong results
results they'd they'd wonder for
political reasons or whatever
it's troubling cuz it doesn't match the
other dot
and for example election temperatures
rising that is the best indication
but in this case this particular data
for only doesn't
maximum they talk another me emails
about why
it doesn't and what is it me
so how a lot less gotcha
then of course the other guys are
pointing out
now that you know that troubled me the
most
and i need more contacts on this and i
went to the sites i want to both the
conservative sites on this and i went to
the
guys who are fighting against the global
warming skeptics
uh... and their site but they didn't
explain this one very well
uh...
climate research at is apparently a
appear review journal
and they were prepared
publishing some
work of the skeptics
anders couple emails whistles scientists
are mad about that and they're saying
hey why are they
polishing his guys and we should
uh... encourage our colleagues in the
climate research community to no longer
submit to
orsay papers in the struggle
uh... and i'm having nothing more to do
with this until david themselves on this
troublesome editor
now look at their try shutout other
voices they're doing legitimate science
well that's definitely wrong
and salah 'em
the most worried about that email
at now if they think all those guys are
getting paid off by the industry
review them anyway
and say
you have to be an account
where they're getting their money and
here's where they were along with their
research we're trying to shut them out
of charles altogether
something seems
uh... off about then i don't like
the way that that was cool
this stuff is i would rated as
so what damage right
again
think about this
and this is a point that was made in one
of the debt
the websites that
is countering
so they have all of these emails from
thirteen-year
yet in none of the emails is there a
discussion of
hate let's get together for cobol
meeting on
uh... doctoring up all the evidence
showing
uh... warm vero global war
uh... paid did you talk to al gore about
our whole little scheme to pretend that
this
hey how bout all that uh... evidence and
and data that we've been doctrine for
years and years and years
you passed that overdid
how about they went into a store is give
you money to make sure that we dr all
the super rich
you tell me out of thirteen years
you've got three emails
one particular data point about two
thousand and eight that doesn't match
the other data points
and you've got
i've divergent thing that about
declining temperatures in tree rings
out of thirteen years best all you've
got
no all the rest of the other email
perfectly normal emails
where they say all here's the data and
here's what we think
and here's what's right and here's
the information
and then i'd look further into it now a
lot of people or you know this but
some apparently don't
two hundred of the top
climatologist in the world
is the top
climate scientists in the world
got together and say it
we are certain
that are at this
in fact it's not in dispute
we're just uh... study released joy that
uh... this decade
that's about include
was the warmest decade in reported
history
out of the nine years so far
have been
among the warmest years
it reported history
in recorded history
so that that is overwhelming
at all of them agree
except for about two or three sides
so you know what to do law cell six four
scientists even though it's not even
foresight
when we look at their uh...
that looks to be about two percent
one on the map right
and ninety-eight percent of the side is
and i mean
very generous here
say now leaves early warming
but they are ninety percent certain
inside the store
blue sky numbers around
uh... elicited hero
as certain as they could possibly be
ninety percent certain there is manmade
so you have this
how do you know evidence
and he's not in a professor
and the right wing
claims arnelle
i would thirty-year period we've got
three emails
where they are are questioning certain
data points
so hands
global warming must be a myth
now at of course
drives me crazy
is the usual thing that the media does
where they go up but why did you think
site today
and honest
we had a scandal
i don't really quite understand that it
was hit a tree rings around
at this thing with between
all they have a spring two thousand and
eight and one year of two thousand eight
on one readings
i dot that makes my head over
so you know what i call it even
all take to honor scientists who've
agreed and i'll take the tour three
scientists who disagree
and also see that
uh... say uh... you know they claim is
global warming
but other sites that they got three
and this is how our debate in this
country gets pervert
particulars of the other emails
sure scientist by their frustration with
the politics
though it why don't they just look at
the numbers and of course of the site is
the realize or maybe later
caught on to it a little later
it it doesn't have anything to do with
the numbers are good to have about them
they want
it's about the money lebowski
huge industry money pouring in
to pretend that there is a debate
so we don't do any about global warming
and they can do you make
tremendous money off the energy
uh... that we're using now and that is
orton parcel of their industry
and that is causing global war
and that's how this thing breaks
date
now they're gonna go to copenhagen
and there is some
very positive news that has come out
uh... and you know if you'd actually
happens we'll see
uh... i'll be very courage
uh... but there's a report out now that
the e_p_a_
is concluding may greenhouse gases
or endangering people's health and must
be regular
why that's so important
let me sweat
the supreme court ruled
that yes greenhouse gases or pollutants
and hence the environmental protection
agency has the right to regulate but in
order to regulate them
they have that judge that they are
dangerous
and that the uh... could affect people's
and it uh... help
and here now the e_p_a_ saying yes
uh... that is
again twice so important because
the e_p_a_ can then do
with the congress won't
right now uh... the house passed the
clergy that change bill
climate change after g build any and all
you want to call a characterize it
uh... but
uh... the senate there's only for the
president all consistently it has no
chance of passing
well they don't need anybody to pass it
if the e_p_a_ can simply regularly
greenhouse gases
okay if i was the president
here's what i do ok that that's what we
have a supreme court one
the e_p_a_ now says that uh...
these are in fact interested by the sea
pollution they've reached under the bush
administration
but the bush administration buried the
site disclaims on that and said no no
you are not allowed to publish that
report well we're now publishing it and
he pays a regulated
so problem solved okay
uh... we're tackling climate change
congress thank you very much
now of course of our ministry should
doesn't work that way so what they're
gonna do it is
it's all good news that they're going to
start
okay
bigger good news reading yet it and say
hey look
congress
i could use the e_p_a_ to regulate this
so you better you know
figure head on straight
and give me a bill that i like
and which by the way the house bill was
sold we'd
the was soloing credibly week
and that barely passed it has no chance
in the senate so they're still bothered
mistreating take that incredibly weak
bill that you have in the house
possibly the senate otherwise i would do
with the regulations for the yet
to which i say what are we playing these
games
games for why don't you just do
regulation around
hitting bush infinite waited around to
see what congressman that no
but i want to be like them in run
roughshod
but the supreme court has ruled that you
don't have the right to make this
regulation
and your signs that said yes it is
dangerous
what else are you waiting for
but but nonetheless undercurrents that
at least that's the u_p_s_ thickness
that
they're threatening congress with it
throwing yourself a regulation of uh...
greenhouse gases
so that it doesn't get out of control
