bjbj Before we go to break, let's talk about
George W. Bush. Remember, Louis, when we heard
from George W. Bush about the fetus in a jar,
not the Metallica song, "Whiskey in the Jar,"
which was originally, actually that's a cover,
it's not Metallica, I forget who originally
did that song. Fetus in the jar was the George
W. Bush story about how his anti-abortion
mindset originally started. And the story
was bizarre when we first heard it, and I'll
actually just play it back for you, just to
refresh your memory. This is from the Matt
Lauer interview, take a look. [CLIP] Matt
Lauer: ... stories about his family that he's
never told before. And one of them is a poignant
story you tell about your mom, about your
mom having a miscarriage when you were just
a teenager. George W. Bush: Yeah. Lauer: And
you were the one who drove her to the hospital,
and you write, quote, "I never expected to
see the remains of the fetus, which she had
saved in a jar to bring to the hospital. There
was a human life, a little brother or sister."
You and she had never talked publicly about
this story until she gave you permission...
Bush: Right. Lauer: To write about it in this
book. Bush: And that's why you're asking me,
because had my mother said, "Son, I don't
want you talking about it," it wouldn't have
been in the book. I put this story in the
book as a part of the tale, I thought it was
very important for people to understand my
relationship with my mom. Lauer: What'd you
learn about her through that experience? [END
CLIP] David: All right. So when Matt Lauer
says that they hadn't really ever talked about
it, apparently he's right, because Bush didn't
even get the story right. It turns out according
to Barbara Bush, the story's not even true.
She said, 'You know what?' It actually...
it wasn't me, I didn't put any fetus in any
jar. It was the maid who did it. And what's
even more fascinating is that Barbara Bush,
for her part, has stated that she believes
abortion is a personal matter, and her friends
have actually said Barbara Bush is actually
in favor of a woman's right to choose. So
maybe you're thinking, "Really, Barbara? You
have to blame the maid on this one? Come on."
But in all seriousness, how could George W.
Bush get this one wrong? He said during the
interview that he asked his mom about including
this story. He checked with her specifically
about this story, and he published something
that was wrong. I mean, come on, George, it's
bad enough to rewrite American history, but
your own family history, you have to rewrite
that too? On the other hand, at least he's
consistent, Louis. He wasn't up-front about
weapons of mass destruction either. So maybe
fetus in a jar is not a big deal. Louis: Fetus
in a jar, not as big a deal as WMDs, certainly.
David: Interesting. Louis: But I think he's
always had a problem getting his story straight.
David: [Laughs] That seems to be the case
for sure. And pressure, by the way, is rising
as a result of some of these interviews Bush
did on Obama to investigate Bush for torture.
He admitted to having ordered waterboarding,
of course. The ACLU, Amnesty International,
Representative Jerry Nadler, Democrat from
New York, are all calling on the Obama administration
to launch an investigation. Now, you know
what, I actually am skeptical that anything
will happen. The administration has already
indicated they're not going to look at any
criminal actions by the... or within the previous
administration, but knowing the habits of
this administration, I wouldn't be surprised
if they were to go forward with an investigation
if they did it at the exact most politically
inconvenient time, the time when actually
going forward with an investigation they already
said they're not going to do, at a time when
it will only hurt Democratic politicians'
chances of being reelected. Is that out of
line, Louis? I mean, really, the Obama administration
has had some poor timing on a lot of these
initiatives, so to speak. Louis: I don't think
it's an important issue at any time. I think
it's over and done with. Obviously they need
to focus on 2012 and more important things.
David: So Louis agreeing on a forward-looking
strategy? The best scenario here, find a way,
somehow, to get this investigation to be a
Republican-led thing. Find a couple Republicans
who actually have the testicular fortitude,
Louis, to proceed with such an investigation.
Today on the bonus show, by the way, we will
be talking more about George W. Bush and specifically
we'll talk about the two biggest lies that
he tells in his memoir. So let's go to break,
we'll talk to Wayne Besen next, and remember,
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