
English: 
>> Sreenivasan: THIS WEEK MARKS
THE START OF PRIDE MONTH, THE
ANNIVERSARY OF A DIFFERENT
REBELLION THAT TOOK PLACE
51 YEARS AGO, WHEN L.G.B.T.Q.
PEOPLE RIOTED AT NEW YORK CITY'S
STONEWALL INN AFTER A SERIES OF
POLICE RAIDS AND ACTS OF
BRUTALITY INSIDE THE BAR.
NOW, IN THE MIDST OF RENEWED
PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE, A
RECENT WAVE OF KILLINGS AND
VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK,
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAS MANY
ACTIVISTS CALLING FOR TRANS
VOICES TO BE CENTERED IN CALLS
FOR "BLACK LIVES MATTER."
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S IVETTE
FELICIANO SPOKE WITH IMARA
JONES, A SOROS EQUALITY FELLOW
AND CREATOR OF TRANSLASH MEDIA.
>> Reporter: THIS IS THE START
OF PRIDE MONTH.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S THE 51st
ANNIVERSARY OF THE STONEWALL
REBELLION.
HOW DOES THAT MOMENT IN
L.G.B.T.Q. HISTORY CONNECT TO
THIS MOMENT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT
NOW?
>> YEAH.
NOT ONLY IS IT THE 51st
ANNIVERSARY OF STONEWALL RIOT,
IT'S ALSO THE 50th ANNIVERSARY
OF THE FIRST MARCH, SO IT'S ALSO
SIGNIFICANT IN THAT WAY.
WE NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD A

English: 
>> Sreenivasan: THIS WEEK MARKS
THE START OF PRIDE MONTH, THE
ANNIVERSARY OF A DIFFERENT
REBELLION THAT TOOK PLACE
51 YEARS AGO, WHEN L.G.B.T.Q.
PEOPLE RIOTED AT NEW YORK CITY'S
STONEWALL INN AFTER A SERIES OF
POLICE RAIDS AND ACTS OF
BRUTALITY INSIDE THE BAR.
NOW, IN THE MIDST OF RENEWED
PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE, A
RECENT WAVE OF KILLINGS AND
VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK,
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAS MANY
ACTIVISTS CALLING FOR TRANS
VOICES TO BE CENTERED IN CALLS
FOR "BLACK LIVES MATTER."
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S IVETTE
FELICIANO SPOKE WITH IMARA
JONES, A SOROS EQUALITY FELLOW
AND CREATOR OF TRANSLASH MEDIA.
>> Reporter: THIS IS THE START
OF PRIDE MONTH.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S THE 51st
ANNIVERSARY OF THE STONEWALL
REBELLION.
HOW DOES THAT MOMENT IN
L.G.B.T.Q. HISTORY CONNECT TO
THIS MOMENT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT
NOW?
>> YEAH.
NOT ONLY IS IT THE 51st
ANNIVERSARY OF STONEWALL RIOT,
IT'S ALSO THE 50th ANNIVERSARY
OF THE FIRST MARCH, SO IT'S ALSO
SIGNIFICANT IN THAT WAY.
WE NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD A

English: 
STONEWALL IF IT WASN'T FOR A
BLACK TRANS WOMAN SAYING
"ENOUGH" DUE TO POLICE BRUTALITY
AND POLICE MISCONDUCT.
AND THE TRAGEDY IS THAT BLACK
TRANS PEOPLE HAVE NOT BENEFITED
FROM THE MOVEMENT THAT THEY
STARTED.
AND THAT MEANS THAT-- WE CANNOT
REPLICATE THAT.
IN A MOMENT WHEN THE LIVES OF
BLACK PEOPLE ARE BEING CENTERED
IN A MOVEMENT THAT FOCUSES ON
EQUALITY, THE ENDING OF POLICE
VIOLENCE AND THE CENTERING OF
BLACK PEOPLE'S HUMANITY, BLACK
TRANS WOMEN, BLACK TRANS PEOPLE,
CANNOT BE LEFT OUT AT THAT
MOMENT.
WE CANNOT REPLICATE AND WAIT
ANOTHER 50 YEARS FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO TRY TO HAVE SOME WAY OF
CREATING EQUALITY.
>> Reporter: MOST RECENTLY,
YOU'VE BEEN CALLING ATTENTION TO
THE BRUTAL BEATING OF IYANNA
DIOR.
CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE WHO SHE
IS AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?
>> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HER IS
THAT SHE IS A YOUNG BLACK WOMAN
WHO LIVES IN THE MINNEAPOLIS/
ST. PAUL REGION.
I BELIEVE THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK
PLACE AT A CONVENIENCE STORE

English: 
STONEWALL IF IT WASN'T FOR A
BLACK TRANS WOMAN SAYING
"ENOUGH" DUE TO POLICE BRUTALITY
AND POLICE MISCONDUCT.
AND THE TRAGEDY IS THAT BLACK
TRANS PEOPLE HAVE NOT BENEFITED
FROM THE MOVEMENT THAT THEY
STARTED.
AND THAT MEANS THAT-- WE CANNOT
REPLICATE THAT.
IN A MOMENT WHEN THE LIVES OF
BLACK PEOPLE ARE BEING CENTERED
IN A MOVEMENT THAT FOCUSES ON
EQUALITY, THE ENDING OF POLICE
VIOLENCE AND THE CENTERING OF
BLACK PEOPLE'S HUMANITY, BLACK
TRANS WOMEN, BLACK TRANS PEOPLE,
CANNOT BE LEFT OUT AT THAT
MOMENT.
WE CANNOT REPLICATE AND WAIT
ANOTHER 50 YEARS FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO TRY TO HAVE SOME WAY OF
CREATING EQUALITY.
>> Reporter: MOST RECENTLY,
YOU'VE BEEN CALLING ATTENTION TO
THE BRUTAL BEATING OF IYANNA
DIOR.
CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE WHO SHE
IS AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?
>> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HER IS
THAT SHE IS A YOUNG BLACK WOMAN
WHO LIVES IN THE MINNEAPOLIS/
ST. PAUL REGION.
I BELIEVE THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK
PLACE AT A CONVENIENCE STORE

English: 
ACTUALLY IN ST. PAUL.
WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND
OF ALTERCATION OVER A VEHICLE,
AND THAT ULTIMATELY ENDED UP
WITH HER ESSENTIALLY BEING
CORNERED AND BUM-RUSHED BY A
GROUP OF-- IT APPEARS TO BE MORE
THAN TEN, TEN TO 15 PEOPLE, WHO
SET UPON HER IN THIS STORE.
AND THEY WERE DELIBERATELY
MISGENDERING HER, IDENTIFYING
HER AS GAY, WHICH SHE'S CLEARLY
NOT.
AND, SO, HER GENDER IDENTITY WAS
CLEARLY A PART AND A DRIVER IN
THE WAY THAT SHE WAS SAVAGELY
BEATEN.
>> Reporter: SO, WHY IS IT SO
IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IYANNA'S
STORY?
I MEAN, IT WAS NOT A POLICE-
INVOLVED KILLING.
THE PEOPLE SEEN IN THE VIDEO
PERPETRATING THE VIOLENCE
AGAINST HER ARE BLACK.
YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS INCIDENT
FIT INTO THIS NATIONAL
CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING AROUND
BLACK LIVES MATTER AND POLICE
KILLINGS?
>> BECAUSE, OVERWHELMINGLY, WHEN
PEOPLE HIT THE STREETS, AS WE'VE
SEEN SINCE 2014, IT'S IN THE
DEATHS OF BLACK MEN.

English: 
ACTUALLY IN ST. PAUL.
WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND
OF ALTERCATION OVER A VEHICLE,
AND THAT ULTIMATELY ENDED UP
WITH HER ESSENTIALLY BEING
CORNERED AND BUM-RUSHED BY A
GROUP OF-- IT APPEARS TO BE MORE
THAN TEN, TEN TO 15 PEOPLE, WHO
SET UPON HER IN THIS STORE.
AND THEY WERE DELIBERATELY
MISGENDERING HER, IDENTIFYING
HER AS GAY, WHICH SHE'S CLEARLY
NOT.
AND, SO, HER GENDER IDENTITY WAS
CLEARLY A PART AND A DRIVER IN
THE WAY THAT SHE WAS SAVAGELY
BEATEN.
>> Reporter: SO, WHY IS IT SO
IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IYANNA'S
STORY?
I MEAN, IT WAS NOT A POLICE-
INVOLVED KILLING.
THE PEOPLE SEEN IN THE VIDEO
PERPETRATING THE VIOLENCE
AGAINST HER ARE BLACK.
YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS INCIDENT
FIT INTO THIS NATIONAL
CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING AROUND
BLACK LIVES MATTER AND POLICE
KILLINGS?
>> BECAUSE, OVERWHELMINGLY, WHEN
PEOPLE HIT THE STREETS, AS WE'VE
SEEN SINCE 2014, IT'S IN THE
DEATHS OF BLACK MEN.

English: 
AND THE DEATH OF BLACK MEN AT
THE HANDS OF POLICE IS
MYTHOLOGIZED DUE TO ITS LONG
HISTORY AND-- AND ATTACHMENT
WITH LYNCHING.
BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
TO UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK WOMEN
WERE LYNCHED, THAT BLACK
CHILDREN WERE LYNCHED, AND THAT
THOSE STORIES OF DEATH AT THE
HANDS OF THE POLICE OF ALL BLACK
PEOPLE ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTED.
NOT TO MENTION THE DEATH THAT'S
CAUSED AT THE HANDS OF OTHER
BLACK PEOPLE.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, LAST SUMMER,
WE HAD A SPATE OF VIOLENCE
AGAINST BLACK TRANS WOMEN, WHERE
IN MANY WAYS THE RAGE THAT'S
BEING FELT AND SHOWN ON THE
STREETS IS WHAT I FELT FOR MY
COMMUNITY, AND YET THERE WAS NOT
THIS RESPONSE.
AND THERE'S NEVER THIS RESPONSE.
AND THIS LACK OF EQUANIMITY
MEANS THAT THERE IS NOT
SUSTAINED PRESSURE ON THE
SYSTEMS THAT OPPRESS US, THAT WE
VALUE CERTAIN LIVES MORE IN THE
COMMUNITY THAN OTHERS.
AND AS LONG AS THAT'S THE CASE,
IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE PROGRESS.
>> Reporter: WE ALSO HAD THE
RECENT KILLINGS OF NINA POP IN

English: 
AND THE DEATH OF BLACK MEN AT
THE HANDS OF POLICE IS
MYTHOLOGIZED DUE TO ITS LONG
HISTORY AND-- AND ATTACHMENT
WITH LYNCHING.
BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
TO UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK WOMEN
WERE LYNCHED, THAT BLACK
CHILDREN WERE LYNCHED, AND THAT
THOSE STORIES OF DEATH AT THE
HANDS OF THE POLICE OF ALL BLACK
PEOPLE ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTED.
NOT TO MENTION THE DEATH THAT'S
CAUSED AT THE HANDS OF OTHER
BLACK PEOPLE.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, LAST SUMMER,
WE HAD A SPATE OF VIOLENCE
AGAINST BLACK TRANS WOMEN, WHERE
IN MANY WAYS THE RAGE THAT'S
BEING FELT AND SHOWN ON THE
STREETS IS WHAT I FELT FOR MY
COMMUNITY, AND YET THERE WAS NOT
THIS RESPONSE.
AND THERE'S NEVER THIS RESPONSE.
AND THIS LACK OF EQUANIMITY
MEANS THAT THERE IS NOT
SUSTAINED PRESSURE ON THE
SYSTEMS THAT OPPRESS US, THAT WE
VALUE CERTAIN LIVES MORE IN THE
COMMUNITY THAN OTHERS.
AND AS LONG AS THAT'S THE CASE,
IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE PROGRESS.
>> Reporter: WE ALSO HAD THE
RECENT KILLINGS OF NINA POP IN

English: 
MISSOURI AND TONY McDADE IN
TALLAHASSEE.
AS A BLACK TRANS WOMAN AND AS A
JOURNALIST, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS
THIS MOMENT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU?
ARE BLACK TRANS VOICES BEING
CENTERED DURING THESE PROTESTS?
>> NO, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A
PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES
WITH THE-- WHAT WE SAW FROM THE
VIDEO AND THE WAY IN WHICH
IYANNA WAS TREATED IS THAT NOT
ALL BLACK LIFE, EVEN WITHIN THE
BLACK COMMUNITY, IS VALUED THE
SAME.
AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFORM
THIS MOMENT INTO ONE OF TRUE
LIBERATION UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND
THAT FACT AND EMBRACE THAT FACT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS
INCIDENT HAS RAISED, AMONGST A
LOT OF BLACK TRANS ACTIVISTS, IS
THIS TENSION THAT PEOPLE FEEL IN
THIS MOMENT, OF, HOW HARD DO YOU
TAKE TO THE STREETS AND FIGHT
FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T SHOW UP FOR
YOU?
THERE'S SO MANY INSTANCES WHEN

English: 
MISSOURI AND TONY McDADE IN
TALLAHASSEE.
AS A BLACK TRANS WOMAN AND AS A
JOURNALIST, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS
THIS MOMENT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU?
ARE BLACK TRANS VOICES BEING
CENTERED DURING THESE PROTESTS?
>> NO, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A
PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES
WITH THE-- WHAT WE SAW FROM THE
VIDEO AND THE WAY IN WHICH
IYANNA WAS TREATED IS THAT NOT
ALL BLACK LIFE, EVEN WITHIN THE
BLACK COMMUNITY, IS VALUED THE
SAME.
AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFORM
THIS MOMENT INTO ONE OF TRUE
LIBERATION UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND
THAT FACT AND EMBRACE THAT FACT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS
INCIDENT HAS RAISED, AMONGST A
LOT OF BLACK TRANS ACTIVISTS, IS
THIS TENSION THAT PEOPLE FEEL IN
THIS MOMENT, OF, HOW HARD DO YOU
TAKE TO THE STREETS AND FIGHT
FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T SHOW UP FOR
YOU?
THERE'S SO MANY INSTANCES WHEN

English: 
WOMEN OVERALL, BUT SPECIFICALLY
BLACK TRANS WOMEN AND OUR
MURDERS AND OUR PAIN ARE TOTALLY
ERASED BY THE LARGER BLACK
COMMUNITY, AND THAT HAS TO END.
>> Reporter: IMARA JONES, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
ME.

English: 
WOMEN OVERALL, BUT SPECIFICALLY
BLACK TRANS WOMEN AND OUR
MURDERS AND OUR PAIN ARE TOTALLY
ERASED BY THE LARGER BLACK
COMMUNITY, AND THAT HAS TO END.
>> Reporter: IMARA JONES, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
ME.
