UP TO HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOLKS ARE VINCI THAT A PROMISE
BY BE A STATE REP CHAIR. >> OF THE HOUSE PUBLIC SAFETY
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM COMMITTEE. I'M JOINED BY
MY
SHARE REPRESENTATIVE JACK PONCE
ALLY WHO CHAIRS THE
CORRECTIONS SUBCOMMITTEE OF OUR
OWN HOUSE COMMITTEE WERE. TOGETHER TO CALL THIS A THIS
MEETING TO ORDER.
AND WELCOME BACK ALL
FRIENDLY FACES OF BOTH SIDES OF
THE
FROM ALL OVER MINNESOTA; YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY FUN TO WATCH
PEOPLE TO SORT OF DURING THE
EARLY GOING UP TO EACH
REGARDLESS OF YOU KNOW OUR COMMUNITY SAY HELLO TO ONE
ANOTHER TO HOPEFULLY AT THE SPIRIT ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO BE
ENGAGED WITH IN THE COMING
WEEKS TO ARE ABOUT TO AH BUT
YOU KNOW I CAN I CAN SERVE OR
WAIT ANOTHER MONTH OR 2 FOR SESSION OF IT WILL BE OUT OF
THE OVER THERE'S SORT OF.
WE'RE.
OH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
ISSUES RELATED TO
AND COST ISSUES RELATED TO
OUR STREET. SO THESE PERSONAL
FACILITIES
ARE PRESERVED. AS WELL AS A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE
GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING A HEARING BEFORE A SESSION
BEGAN SAYS THERE'S NO BILL TO
FORCE WE HOPE TO SOME DEGREE WEAKENS JUST KIND OF LETTER HIT
HERE IN AND OUT OF THAT
YOU KNOW THAT GOOD TOOLS RESPECTIVE CORNERS THAT WE'RE
REALLY GOOD AT BEING A IN. IT JUST KIND OF THREW INTO A
SPACE WHERE WE
LISTEN TO BE LAID BEFORE US
WITHOUT
THE US AND WE NEED ACT THE MOVE
OUT OF HIS LEGISLATION. AND AT
THE SAME TIME.
LET ME
JUST THROUGH A VERY A COUPLE OF
ARE VERY VERY QUICK THINGS THAT
A MINIMUM A CHUR CONSTANTINE.
IS THERE A FEW WORDS AS WELL COPS LIVES REALLY WANT TO
TACKLE YOUR FOLDERS. YOU'LL
FIND YOU'RE FIRED A COUPLE OF
SUB FOLDERS WAS MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE RED IF YOU HAVE A RED
FOLDER IN THERE
KEEP THAT BECAUSE INSIDE THE
HOME BECAUSE THAT'LL BE.
WAS A CONFERENCE FOR THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING ARE THERE
RACING LAW LATER ON TODAY.
THE OTHER THING VERY
QUICKLY IS I'M GOING TO TRY A
TRICK ON SUNDAY WILL AS WELL TO
KEEP US I'M PRETTY
EFFECTIVELY TODAY OF PRECISELY
BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER WITH
OUR TO APPROVE OF THE SERIES.
SO WITH THAT I'LL COME TO A COUPLE OF EQUIPMENT GOING
TO COME IN THE FIELD; THEY'RE
CONFIDENT.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MARIANI AND
I COULD DO THE HOUSEKEEPING.
MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE OUT AND
FILL THE BLUE SLIP SURF. THE HUMAN REIMBURSEMENT BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE HEARING ROOM
LEAVE THEM IN YOUR FOLDERS THIS
IS AN INFORMAL HEARING.
SO WE WON'T BE TAKING ANY LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS WILL NOT BE TAKING
PUBLIC TESTIMONY. HOWEVER
THERE'S A MONK A MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC THAT WITH LIKE
PROVIDE INPUT. YOU'RE WELCOME
TO CONTACT OF LOOK DIRECTLY AND SO MANY CORRESPONDENTS OF
INTEREST ON THE MATTER OF THE TO THE COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY.
ADMINISTRATOR RAISE YOUR HAND COMMITTEE ADMINISTRATOR THAT'S
HIM THOUGH. ALL RIGHT NOW BACK
OVER TO CHAIR MARY
ON IT. THANK YOU CHAIR; CONSULAR NUMBERS SUCH AS I WILL
BE TAKING OVER. TAKING OVER
WILL BE A WHILE SHARING AND
A GOAT THE GAVEL WITH THE 2ND HALF FULL OF THIS COMMITTEE
HEARINGS PRESENTATION. THERE
ARE 2 PARTS TO HOW WE THE
SYRIAN TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS
TO HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS UM
PRISON OR PROBATION. POPULATION
AND COST A ISSUE.
THE SECOND PART WILL BE A PRESENTATION BY THE MISSILE
ASSOCIATION
OF COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS THAT COUNTIES AND THE MIDDLE FOR THE
FORCES FOR PROBABLY PROBATION
OFFICERS. PROBATION POPULATION
OF AND
COST ISSUES. THE OVERHEARING IS
TOO DISCUSSED. ISSUES RELATED
TO
STATE FUNDING OF OUR PRISONS AND PROBATION SYSTEMS. I HOPE
IS TO PROVIDE. INFORMATION
TO LEGISLATORS.
WITH CONCERTS ALL OF THE PUBLIC
AND THE TRAJECTORY OF POPULAR A
PROVISION POPULATIONS
AND THE TRAJECTORY OF THEIR RESPECTIVE COST. AND PERHAPS
ALSO CONVERSATION ABOUT O 2
WALLET. DEGREE DO OUR STATE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE POLICIES. CREATE EITHER FUNDING
INCENTIVES OR DISINCENTIVES
THAT CONTRIBUTE TO
THOSE TRENDS. I'M AND I'M
REALLY HOPING THAT THIS INFORMATION WILL PROVIDE US
WITH STRONG.
AS WE ENTER INTO THE
LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I CONTINUE
TO MAKE THE IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT WE INVESTING IN OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
SO WITH THAT AND
WELL WE'RE GOING TO GET BY
HEARING FROM OUR. COMMISSIONER
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS A
COMMISSION TO CHANEL.
AND THAT THE INTENT HERE THE
GOAL HERE IS TO BASICALLY
A 30 MINUTE PRESENTATION FOR UP
TO 30 MINUTES;
A PRESENTATION. THEY'RE FOLLOWED BY QUESTIONS FROM
MEMBERS OF THE 15 OR
20 MINUTE. TO SORT
YOUR QUESTIONS. I'M CERTAINLY
OF THE WILL KEEP TRACK BUT
QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN TO REMOVE TOOLS. ALL THOSE THE COMMISSIONER AND HIS STAFF ARE
IT CONCLUDED THERE THEY'RE
SHARING WITH US THERE. SO WITH THAT I WELCOME TO THE COMMITMENT TO
THE COMMITMENTS FROM SEOUL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON GOT CHAIRS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE; IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL
AGAIN.
THE BALL AND THE LONGER THAT
THE NEW GUY FOR PURPOSES OF THE
RECORD MY NAME IS PAUL SNOW AND
I'M I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE STATE'S COMMISSIONER OF
CORRECTIONS. BEFORE I TALK
ABOUT COST TO CARRY OUT THE
MISSION OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
WELL THAT YOU KNOW THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEWS TO TEACH STRATEGIC
PLAN FOR THE AGENCY. THE PLAN
WAS DEVELOPED THE VOICES;
MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MORE THAN
500 OF THE OC STAFF MEMBERS SYSTEM PARTNERS AND SYSTEM
INVOLVED PEOPLE. AS WE FINALIZE THE GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES OF THE AGENCY'S NEW STRATEGIC DIRECTION; I'M HONORED TODAY TO SHARE A FEW
DETAILS WITH YOU.
THE DEAL SEES NEW
MISSION STATEMENT IS TO
TRANSFORM THE LIVES FOR SAFER; MINNESOTA TRANSFORM LIVES FOR
SAFER; MINNESOTA. THE CHEATING
JUSTICE THROUGH THE PROMOTION.
A RACIAL EQUITY. RESTORATION
FROM HARM. AND COMMUNITY
CONNECTEDNESS.
OUR KEY PRIORITIES ARE
IMPROVING SAFETY. RECRUITING AND RETAINING TALENT THAT
STAFF. THE PROMOTION OF
WELLNESS. THE PRACTICE OF
SERVANT LEADERSHIP.
ENGAGEMENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND
OUR
COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THE MODERNIZATION OF AGENCY
OPERATIONS AND STRUCTURE.
IN THE COMING WEEKS WILL
FINALIZE THE STRATEGIC PLAN; INCLUDING ALL OF THE
CORRESPONDING GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR EACH OF THESE
KEY PRIORITY AREA. WHEN
FINALIZED WILL BE SURE TO
DISTRIBUTE COPIES TO ALL OF YOU AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR
WEB PAGE. IN ADDITION TO
THE GOAL. JACK TO REDEVELOP
GUIDANCE OVER COIN; I STICK.
FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE
AGENCY TO USE IN IDENTIFYING
AND ASSESSING WHAT COULD LOOKS
LIKE AND HOW AS A MEMBER OF OUR STAFF. WE KNOW WE'RE DOING IT.
IN THE LAST YEAR I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING HUNDREDS IF
NOT THOUSANDS OF CONVERSATIONS.
STAFF; THE PEOPLE INCARCERATED
IN OUR PRISONS.
THOSE ON SUPERVISION; THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OUR PROFESSIONAL PARTNERS; INCLUDING COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS.
VICTIM ADVOCACY PROGRAMS
TREATMENT PROVIDERS; SOCIAL
SERVICES COUNTY PROBATION STAFF MENTAL HEALTH ADVOCATES AND SO
MANY MORE.
A PRODUCT OF THE JOURNEY OVER THE PAST YEARS A DEEPER SENSE
OF THE AWARENESS
OF THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF
ALL VARIOUS ASPECTS AND COMPONENTS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
AND THE SYSTEM'S ROLE IN CARRYING OUT THE ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION OF
ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE DEALS SEES ROLLE IS CERTAINLY AT THE BACK END OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
IS CLEAR RELATIVE TO OUR ROLE IN CREATING AND TRANSFORMING
LIVES FOR SAFER; MINNESOTA. BUT TRANSFORMATION DOES NOT START NOR AND WITH CORRECTIONS.
SO IMPORTANT TO OUR MISSION WE
RECOGNIZE THE TRANSFORMATION
REQUIRES MORE THAN SAFE AND
SECURE PRISONS AND PROFESSIONALLY DELIVER CORRECTIONAL SUPERVISION BY SUPERVISION AGENTS ACROSS OUR
STATE. WE RECOGNIZE THE
PUBLIC SAFETY CAN ONLY BE
ACHIEVED. AS
A SYSTEM
MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE
IT SERVES WHERE THEY'RE AT.
IN ORDER TO TRANSFORM LIVES FOR
A SEAT FROM MINNESOTA. WE MUST
HAVE FAIR AND REASONABLE POLICY
THAT TARGET AND ADDRESS THE PERSISTENT DISENFRANCHISEMENT PEOPLE IN OUR STATE BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE. THERE ARE SNIFFING
THE GENDER THEIR SEXUAL
ORIENTATION. ECONOMIC STATUS OR
THEIR ADDRESS.
AS IT RELATES TO THIS
COMMITTEE'S JURISDICTION.
I REALIZE THAT WHILE I
REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS I MUST ALSO
ADVOCATE. FOR ALL OTHER ESSENTIAL
ELEMENTS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM INCLUDING VICTIM
ADVOCACY AND SAFETY SERVICES.
A RIGOROUS PUBLIC DEFENSE SYSTEM. A WELL RESOURCED
JUDICIAL BRANCH. PROBLEM FOCUSED AND COMMUNITY
ORIENTED POLICING.
THE AVAILABILITY OF SPECIALIZED
CRIME SOLVING SERVICES LIKE OUR STATES CRIME LAB AND FRIENDS;
THE COMPUTER FORENSICS LAB OF COURSE PROSECUTION SERVICE HAS
BEEN ACHIEVED THE
STATE'S OBJECTIVES FOR MORE FAIR PROPORTIONATE AND BALANCE
SENTENCE EACH DIRECTION.
BEYOND THIS COMMITTEE'S
JURISDICTION; BUT MOST CERTAINLY WITHIN THE INTEREST
OF THE PEOPLE YOU ALL REPRESENT
THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO AS
MUCH UPSTREAM IN OUR WORK AS POSSIBLE TO INVEST IN THE
EDUCATION OF ART CHILDREN.
THE STRENGTHENING OF COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AND PRETTY MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL
PEOPLE IN OUR STATE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES
AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THE GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR HAVE CLEARLY LAID THE EXPECTATION THAT ALL STATE
AGENCIES GO BEYOND THE RECOGNITION OF THE INTERSECTIONALITY OF OUR WORK.
AND SET TO WORK ON MUTUALLY DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT SERVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE STATE OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR
STATE.
THE PRESIDENT THAT THE OC HAS
ACTIVE INTERAGENCY INITIATIVES.
BUT THE PART THE DEPARTMENTS OF
EDUCATION; PUBLIC SAFETY HUMAN
SERVICES; ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE OFFICE OF HIGHER
EDUCATION AND HOLD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING
LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
DISCUSS THE BIG POLICIES TO ADVANCE THE MISSION OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION AND TO SUPPORT SYSTEMWIDE
EFFECTIVENESS NEW CREATION OF
TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WITH THAT I I WOULD
MOVE INTO THIS; BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE
JOURNEY OVER THE PAST YEAR.
I'M GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU FOR
THE LESSONS I LEARNED IN OF AND
IN MY FIRST
YEAR AND AND I AND MANY OF THE
PEOPLE WHO HELPED GUIDE ME THROUGH THIS TIME AND IT'S MY
HONOR TODAY TO BE ABLE. THE
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.
THE FUNDING AND THE STRUCTURE
AND IN OUR PRISONS AND
PROBATION. COMMISSIONER THANK
YOU FOR OF PROVIDING THAT KIND
OF THE
>> I DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEE THE
FIRE. AND ENGAGE IN
CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE COMMISSION'S STATEMENT. IT
STRUCK ME AS YOU WERE.
SHARING THE
ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES OF ANY NEW ADMINISTRATION REGARDLESS
OF POLITICAL PARTY IS THAT.
YOU KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION BEGINS ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY AFTER NEW
YEAR'S THAT O WHICH MEANS ANY
ADMINISTRATION HAS OF US.
6 WEEKS AFTER BABY WEEKS
AFTER THE THROUGH THERE US OVER
THE GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
FOR THE
EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO PUT FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO ACT OUT WHICH REALLY MEANS I THAT IT'S
VERY DIFFICULT. THE 5 TIME TO
DO THAT PEOPLE FLOCK TO
STRATEGIC THINKING. THAT IS SO
NECESSARY FOR ALL OF US
GOVERNMENT A STATE GOVERNMENT
TO DO. SOME GLAD TO HEAR THAT OF A SONG FOR YOU AND YOUR
STAFF OF WAS WE SPENT TIME.
DOING ONCE WE GOT PAST INCREDIBLE PACE OF LEGISLATIVE
SESSION AND I DO LOOK FORWARD
TO HEARING MORE
YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITIES OF
THOUGHTS. AND DIRECTION.
COMING FORWARD ALL THE MORE
WE'RE GIVING YOU AND I STRESS THIS INTO YOUR THURSDAY; THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR.
>> SO BEFORE WE DELVE OF THE PLAN TO SOME OF THE DAY WE WANT TO SHARE DESPITE PROVIDE AGAIN
A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OF OF
THE DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS IS THE 3RD
LARGEST STATE AGENCY WE EMPLOY.
JUST OVER 4300 PEOPLE ACROSS
OUR STATE. WE OPERATE AND
MAINTAIN A LOT OF FACILITIES
THAT APPROXIMATELY 9300 PEOPLE.
OF THOSE 3;000 THEY'RE MADE UP
OF CORRECTION OFFICERS CASE
MANAGERS. NURSES BEHAVIOR ALL STAFF PROGRAMMING STAFF PROBATION OFFICERS AND MANY
MANY MORE. ALSO
SUPERVISION AND ADULT A FELONY
PROBATION; SUPER IS SUPERVISION
AND I US AND SUPERVISED RELEASE
SUPERVISION AND 53 COUNTIES.
THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE MANY
CORRECTIONS ACT. IN ADDITION TO FAMILY SERVICES THAT THE US THE
US IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE BUT PROVIDING JUVENILE MISS THEM AND TO PROBATION SERVICES AND
29 COUNTS.
WE ARE ESSENTIALLY BROKEN
INTO 3 BROAD DIVISIONS THAT IS
THAT THE FACILITIES DIVISION AND OPERATIONS DIVISION AND THE
COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION.
THE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL
IS JUST OVER
MILLION AND 96% OF OUR FUNDS COME FROM THE STATE'S GENERAL
FUND.
FOR THE LARGEST PROPORTION OF
THOSE DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND OUR
FACILITIES DIVISION.
AND YOU'VE HEARD US MENTION A
SPREAD A BIT OVER THE YEARS.
THE DAILY COST OF INCARCERATING
AN INDIVIDUAL IN MINNESOTA'S
PRESIDENT THE IN FISCAL 19 WAS
A $104 OR $0.98 PER DAY.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SIT ON A CAPITAL
INVESTMENT COMMITTEE YOU ALSO
KNOW THE DLC HAS SIGNIFICANT
FOR MAINTENANCE.
TODAY. ULTIMATELY ARE LOOKING
AT MILLION DEFERRED MAINTENANCE
COUGH. AS WE DISCUSSED THAT
BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE.
PRISON IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE
AND OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM SPECTRUM. AND A RESOURCE
THAT WE BELIEVE MUST BE EFFICIENTLY AND AS EFFECTIVELY
AS POSSIBLE.
IN ADDITION; AS YOU KNOW; I'M
AND THESE ARE GOING HEAR FROM TODAY OUR COLLEAGUES FROM ACK ACK THAT MACK ALL WILL BE
SHARING WITH YOU. PERSPECTIVE
ON WHAT THE DEAL. THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
DOES
HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING AND OVERSIGHT OF THE PAST THROUGH FUNDS YOU ALL
ALLOCATE.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE
APPROXIMATELY JUST SHY OF
MILLION IN FISCAL 19 WAS THE
CORRECT COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
UM
SUBSIDY AND CPR SUBSIDY WAS
MILLION. IN TOTAL YOU CAN
JUST SHY OF
MILLION. IN A TOTAL PASS FOR
MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS WHO COLONIES TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN THEIR LOCAL
JURISDICTION.
WE LOOK AT THE
HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR WHERE WE
ARE TODAY IN TERMS OF OUR
CORRECTIONS SYSTEM. WE KNOW
THAT THE IN DURING THE 2 THOUSANDS ARE OUR CORRECTIONS
SYSTEM IN PARTICULAR OUR PRISONS. SO AN INCREDIBLE
IN PRISON POPULATION.
GROWTH WE WENT IN 2000 TO
2009; 5700 PEOPLE IN
OUR PRISONS JUST OVER 9;000 ROUGHLY THE NUMBER WE ARE AT
TODAY.
WE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WE WE
ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT THE D O CAPACITY HAS
INCREASED OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WITH THE ADDITION OF OF A
RUSH CITY.
WE IN THE PAST HAD USE A CONTRACT THAT FIRST OF ITS BASE
AT THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
IN APPLETON AND THERE HAS BEEN
AN EXPANSION. EDITION OF THE
BUILDINGS ALL THE BUILDINGS AT
A FAVORABLE.
IN THAT IN
THAT SINCE THE SINCE OVER THE
LAST DECADE; THOSE KATHY
NUMBERS AT THE LARGELY STATIC.
IN OUR PRISON POPULATION HAS
BEEN FOR THE MOST PARTS THAT.
WHEN WE LOOK
THE QUESTION OF OF.
WHO IS IN OUR PRISONS. AND
WHAT'S PROJECTED AND WHERE
WHAT'S ACTUAL. THIS GIVES YOU
SOME SENSE. R R. THE ACTUAL
HAVE BEEN LARGELY
ON TARGET. ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE
LET ME LOOK AT
AN ACTUAL. WE ARE ARE JUST
SLIGHTLY ABOVE OUR
BUT JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE OUR OUR
PROJECTIONS. AT WITH
WHERE THE AND JUST SLIGHTLY
BELOW OUR PROJECTIONS IN TERMS
OF PRISON POPULATION TODAY BY
JUST US A VERY SMALL NUMBER.
WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF TIME HOWEVER; AND I THINK THIS
BECOMES IMPORTANT.
WE THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AT THE PEAK OVER 10 TO A
POPULATION OF OVER
10;000. WHY HAS THERE BEEN THIS MORE RECENT DROP IN OUR
POPULATION.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT NUMBER
WE CAN SEE THAT THAT THE PLACE
WHERE HER REDUCTION HAS
HAPPENED. IT IN THE ADMISSIONS
A PROBATION VIOLATORS. AND
SUPERVISED VIOLATORS.
PART OF THIS PRODUCTION IS IS DUE TO A POLICY CHANGE THAT WAS
ENACTED IN 2018. THAT PREVENTED
SOME FROM VIOLATING. OF HAVE
THE BEING RECALLED.
AND REQUIRING A RESTRUCTURING
AND ALTERNATIVE THINK SHUNS TO
RETURN
TO PRISON. THEY ALSO NOTE THAT
THAT UH THERE ARE PROJECTS EITHER IN DEVELOPMENT OR
ACTUALLY HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN
UNDERWAY IN A IN A VARIETY OF
COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN
FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON THIS
POPULATION AND WE HAVE SEEN
IN CERTAIN COUNTIES THERE HAS
BEEN A MARKET IN NOTABLE
REDUCTION. IN THE NUMBER OF VIOLATORS THAT ARE COMING IN
THE SYSTEM.
THERE ARE REALLY 2 MAIN FACTORS
THAT AFFECT THE SIZE OF OUR
PRISON POPULATION AND
THAT REALLY IS THE IS GROUNDED
IN THESE ADMISSIONS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT ADMISSIONS NEW
COURT ADMISSIONS IN FISCAL 19
COMPRISE ROUGHLY
OF THE THE TOTAL THE ADMISSIONS
FOR
THAT YEAR. AND MADE UP ABOUT 76% OF THE OVERALL POPULATION
AS OF JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY FOR SOMEBODY BEING SENT TO OUR
PRISON IS ROUGHLY 32 MONTHS.
HERE IS ONE OF THE PLACES THAT
WE SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY IN
JUST A SECOND.
23% OF THE ADMISSIONS IN FISCAL
ARE MADE UP OF PROBATION
VIOLATORS. WHICH WHICH AT AS OF JANUARY FIRST REFLECTED 13% OF
OUR POPULATION.
THESE FOLKS HAVE AN AVERAGE
LENGTH OF STAY OF OF THEM ROUGHLY 10 MONTHS JUST ACTUALLY
JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THAT.
SUPERVISED RELEASE OF
VIOLATORS; THOSE FOLKS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN IN AND SENT BACK
TO PRISON.
OFTENTIMES FOR A TECHNICAL
VIOLATION; SOMETIMES FOR
VIOLATIONS. A MORE SIGNIFICANT.
MEET UP 34% OF ART MISSIONS IN
FISCAL 19 AND REFLECTED
11% OF THE OF THE STATE'S
PRISON POPULATION ON JANUARY
1ST AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE AN
AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY OF 4 MONTHS ARE LESS LIKELY JUST
SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THAT.
NOW WHAT WHAT THIS ULTIMATELY DOES IS IT CREATES A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF BURDEN IN TERMS OF
THE TURN OF THE PEOPLE COMING INTO INTO PRISONS FOR VERY
SHORT PERIODS OF TIME
ULTIMATELY. RESULTS IN WHAT WE WOULD SAY IS IS WHERE WHOLE
SCENE.
WHEN WE FOCUS ON WE CAN LOOK AT
THE
FACT THAT. WIN 60% OF OUR ADMISSIONS ARE PROBATION
SUPERVISED RELEASE OF VIOLATORS. WE HAVE TO PAY
ATTENTION TO THOSE NUMBERS AND
THEN ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OF RETURNING THEM; WE'RE BRINGING
THEM INTO PRISON. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THAT AS WE GET INTO THIS
FURTHER.
OF THE 7;857 OR OF ISIS IN
MINNESOTA PRISONS IN
2018. 3 THOR 3;000 OF THOSE PEOPLE HAD A LENGTH OF STAY OF
LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.
I'M NOT
2 THIRDS OF WITH LESS THAN 6 MONTHS FOR SUPERVISED RELEASE
PILOT OR SO
THIS POPULATION. IT CREATES A
LOT OF CHURN AND PUTS A LOT OF DEMAND. ON THE PRISON SYSTEM
AND THE ABILITY OF THE PRISON SYSTEM TO RESPOND TO AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT THESE
PEOPLE HAVE.
IN FISCAL YEAR 2019 20% WERE
FOR 90 DAYS OR LAST.
14 OF 1400 OF THESE PEOPLE WERE ADMITTED WORD MISSIONS FOR
SUPERVISED RELEASE VIOLATIONS.
3.70 FOR PROBATION VIOLATIONS
THAT ABOUT A 130 WHERE NEW
COURT VIOLATIONS. SO AGAIN
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHOSE ADMISSIONS ARE GOING TO BE LAST
THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO
PRISON BUT LESS THAN
30 DAYS. AND EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THAT A 137 OF THOSE PEOPLE
ARE COMING IN
DIRECTLY SENTENCE. AND IN MOST CASES; THOSE FOLKS HAVE RECEIVED THAT YOU MAY HAVE HAD
A YEAR AND A DAY SENTENCE
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE IN
JAIL AND THEY GOT CREDIT FOR
TIME SERVED. THEY HAD A LESS
THAN 90 DAYS REMAIN ON THAT SENSE. IN FACT THERE HAVE BEEN
TIMES AND ON OCCASIONS WHERE
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT
BROUGHT INTO PRISON AND ON A
MONDAY TO BE RELEASED THE FOLLOWING DAY AND THEY'RE
SUPERVISED RELEASE THAT. AND THESE THINK CALM AT
TREMENDOUS TO THE SYSTEM.
THE TURN THAT HAPPENS.
WHY WHY IS TURNED TO AN
IT'S WE THINK THAT ULTIMATELY
IT
A PROFOUND WASTE OF RESOURCES OF TAXPAYER. MONEY BECAUSE WHAT
ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THESE
PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT BACK
OFTENTIMES PLUCKED OUT OF THE
COMMUNITY. WE'RE ADMITTEDLY
THEY ARE STRUGGLING AND THAT
COULD BE IN 60% OF THE CASES ROUGHLY THESE PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING WITH THE RELAPSE OF
THE FOR INSTANCE; A 30 YOU WAYS. IT COULD BE IT COULD BE
HOUSING IN SOME CASES IT COULD
BE.
NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE DIRECTIONS OF THEIR AGENT OR
FAILURE TO MAKE. MEAT FROM 8 MAINTAIN CONTACT
WITH THEIR AGENT. IT COULD BE A
VARIETY OF THINGS. IT IN
SOME CASES BE THE RESULT
OF OF AN ACCUSATION OR ARE BEING CRIMINALLY CHARGED WITH A
NEW FENCE. AND YOU KNOW IN A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE
CASES.
TURNER ALSO CHOKES THE SYSTEM AND AFFECTS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
THERE ARE ABILITY TO PROGRAM. THE STABILITY OF WHAT HAPPENS
IN OUR HOUSING UNIT; THE MILL
YOU INSIDE OVER THE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN SIGHT OF OUR OUR
FACILITY CORRECTIONAL FILLS THOSE HIS CHALLENGE TO WHEN WE
LOOK AT AT THE STILL WATERS OF
FOR INSTANCE BUT WE SEE A HIGH NUMBER OF RELEASED BY LEADERS
COMING IN THERE. AGAIN SHORT
PERIODS OF TIME ARE BROUGHT
INTO
THAT FACILITY IT HAS PROFOUND IMPACT ON THE STABILITY OF THAT
POPULATION.
WHEN THEY'RE BROUGHT IN THESE
PEOPLE ARE OFTENTIMES UNABLE TO
ACCESS PROGRAM SO
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEM INTO TREATMENT PROGRAM ME IF WE
ESTABLISH A TREATMENT
DIRECTIVE. THEY WILL STAY AND IN SOME CASES WAITING FOR THAT TREATMENT DIRECTIVE TO BE
COMPLETED.
AND WORK WITH THAT'S FURTHER
COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT TODAY HIRING A LICENSED ALCOHOL
AND A DRUG COUNSELORS IS REALLY
CHALLENGING AS IS AS MUCH OF A
CHALLENGE FOR HAVING OR ON
HIRING AND MAINTAIN IN RETAINING A MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPIST IN THE PRISON SYSTEM.
AND THESE CHALLENGES COULD
CREATE A MASSIVE CONCERNS IN ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE BEGIN
TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE
ADDRESS THIS AND HOW DO WE MEAN
WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THESE PEOPLE IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT
WE BELIEVE HASTA GET ADDRESS
THAT WE HAVE TO GET OUR HE OUR
HANDS ARE ON THIS AND WE'VE HAD
GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR
PARTNERS WITH THE CORRECTIONS THAT COUNTIES IN TALKING ABOUT
THE FACT THAT THERE ARE WAYS AS
PEOPLE LEAVE
TO NOT ADDRESS ALL OF THESE CASES THERE'S NO WAY THAT
THAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WE GOING TO REDUCE 1100 ALL THESE
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
BE RELEASED. BUT WE DO BELIEVE
WITH ADEQUATE RESOURCES.
THAT THERE
MEANINGFUL. SOLUTIONS TO
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND MEAN TEAM PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE
SAME TIME.
AS FOR PROVIDE GIVE YOU ONE
EXAMPLE IN FISCAL YEAR 2017.
193 WOMEN;
KEENE N AND PEACE FOR NEW COME
OUT.
CAME INTO SHOCK; A P.
LESS THAN 30 DAYS. AND THEY'RE
COMING. LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
NOW A COST OF AN INTAKE WHEN WE
TAKE ALL THE COST TO TO THE
PROCESS SOMEBODY IN THE PRESIDENT OUT. AND TAKE THE
SECOND PANEL SUSPENSE THAT HAPPEN. COMES AT A COST OF
ABOUT $1300.
HER. HER INTO ME COMING INTO
THE PRISON. SO IN SHOCK
APPEAL ON THOSE THOSE WOMEN
THAT TEAM IN WITH WITH A THE SERVE THE REMAINDER OF HER
SENTENCE LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
AT A COST. IN
THAT YEAR JUST SHY OF $400;000.
AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS. IT IT HAS A GREAT
AS WE SAID ON.
PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY. IT CAN WE BELIEVE INCREASE AND CONTRIBUTE
THE ISSUES ARE ON HOMELESSNESS
WE ALSO KNOW THAT.
IN SOME INSTANCES WE'VE SEEN WHERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO ARE
IN COMMUNITY MAY HAVE FAILED BUT YOU HAD HAD PROBLEMS WITH MAINTAINING THEIR SOBRIETY AS A
FOR INSTANCE.
REPORTING WITH 30 UAE'S OR ARE
TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE USE OF
A CONTROLLED
WHICH IS CLEARLY A VIOLATION
THESE CASES. BUT THEY THEY'VE
BEEN MAINTAINING THEIR EMPLOYMENT. THEY'RE HOSTING A
STABLE IN SOME CASES THEY ARE
SUPPORTING A CHUNK OF
THEIR FAMILY. AND WE THINK THAT WOULD MEET WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE TOTALITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WE
HAVE TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT AND I THINK THERE IS BY US AND
OUR PARTNERS. AND IN DOING
THAT. I MENTIONED
EARLIER THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE
DOING ESSENTIALLY AS
WAREHOUSING PEOPLE WE BELIEVE
THAT THAT IS A
FUNDAMENTALLY DEHUMANIZING. IT CROWDS EFFECTIVENESS SO OF
OUR ABILITY TO INTERVENE. AND CERTAINLY AFFECTS THE
SAFETY AND THE MORALE OF OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE INCARCERATED.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THAT WE'RE HOSTING IT IS ITSELF A
PERMANENT SENATE FACT THAT WHEN
WE WHEN WE BRING PEOPLE AND
WE ACTUALLY THROUGH THIS
INTERVENTION HAVE THE
CREATE WORSE OUTCOMES WE MAKE
THEM WORSE WE WE WE CREATE
SITUATIONS WHERE THEY ARE MORE
LIKELY FOR REAL FACT.
AND THEN WE CONSIDER THAT THAT
GIVEN. THE WAREHOUSING ISSUES.
AND LOOKING AT THE
OF THOUGH WE KNOW THAT THOUGH
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
THE WORST OF MISCONDUCT.
AND IT WILL PUT THAT IN THE FACILITY AS WELL AS AND
SUPERVISION. THEY HAVE AND THEY
HAVE THE POOREST. EMPLOYMENT
AND PERCENT OF A SMALL COMES.
AND I THINK AS AS AS THE COURT
STATES WHERE HOUSING SIMPLY
HIGHLY COST OF
A COSTLY AND IN EFFECT THE
PRACTICE AND SOMETHING THAT WE
BELIEVE AS A WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGING
IT RECOGNIZING. I'M COMING
UP TO DO SOMETHING TO APPLY.
THE CURRENT AND UH.
BEST PRACTICES.
EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICES TO
ACHIEVE BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE
SAKE OF THESE FOLKS THEIR FAMILIES AND ULTIMATELY FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY.
OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS AS WE LOOK
AT
THIS IS IS THAT WE WANT TO WE
WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE SAFETY AND
PROSPERITY BUT DELIVERING
THE PAST CORRECTIONAL SERVICES
IN THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT.
AND DOING THAT IN THE MOST COST
EFFECTIVE
MANNER POSSIBLE. AND WE DO
BELIEVE THAT THAT UH WE WE
CAN DO REALLY BE SMART IN TERMS
OF
OUR POLICIES. EFFECTIVELY INTERVENE MAKE A MAKE GOOD
INVESTMENTS IN IN PEOPLE'S
LONG-TERM WELL-BEING AND
ULTIMATELY MAKE THEM A ACT OF A
FULLY PARTICIPATING. MEMBERS OF THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF MINNESOTA.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT BY
DOING
THIS WEEKEND. BUILD MORE TO DELIVER REALLY EXCEPTIONAL
SERVICES FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR PRISONS; A LONGER
TERM BASIS.
WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE AT A
CRITICAL DECISION MAKING A
POINT IN WITH OUR SYSTEM.
AS WE THINK THIS AND CERTAINLY ALL ALL OF THAT DATA IS
POINTING TO THE FACT THAT
AS WE THINK OF OUR CORRECTIONS
AND ITS COST. BOTH ECONOMIC
AND SOCIAL. IT BECOMES
IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE A HIGH
EMPHASIS.
TO EVIDENCE-BASED TREATMENT AND PROGRAMMING THAT WE KNOW WORK.
BECAUSE OF WAREHOUSING
AND CHURN IT MAKES IT VERY
DIFFICULT FOR TO DO THAT.
I POINT OUT THAT THAT.
WELL WELL THIS MAY UP IT.
GRAHAM.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE FAR
BETTER OFF THAN SOME PLACES.
YOU MAY HAVE READ OR SEEN
LATELY THAT MEANT MISSISSIPPI.
IN MISSISSIPPI 12 PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED IN
MISSISSIPPI'S DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAVE BEEN KILLED
SINCE DECEMBER.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PRISONS
ACROSS OUR NATION. IS THAT THE ABILITY
TO STAFF THEM. THE
ABILITY TO MEANINGFULLY
INTERVENE. IT BECOMES
MORE CHALLENGING. AND OFTEN TIMES. THE POLICIES THAT
WE CREATE IN TERMS OF OUR
DESIRE TO 2. WE BELIEVE MAKE
MORE SAFE COMMUNITY.
IS CREATING AN
ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. PROBLEM
ANOTHER AREA. BUT AND AS I SAID
IN MY OPENING COMMENTS.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNE HAVE
MONEY TODAY THINK ABOUT THE
TOTALITY OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND DELIVERING
MEANINGFUL SERVICES. WHAT DID
THE VICTIMS. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
INVOLVED IN THESE OFFENSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE ADEQUATELY AND FULLY
REPRESENTED.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE THAT THESE
ARE NOT COMPETING OBJECT.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ABOUT
CREATING A RESPONSIBLE AND
RESPONSIVE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
BE A PART OF WORKING WITH YOU
TO ACHIEVE THAT AND WITH THAT SHARES THAT WOULD STAND FOR ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
COMMISSIONER.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THAT GAS.
SOME MEMBERS OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SHARED A RELATIVE TO.
>> YOU KNOW TRAGICALLY UNFORTUNATELY ARE ALLSTATE YOU
KNOW WE'RE ONE DOWN WITH US.
FOR 2 MONTHS OR SO.
IN ONE OF OUR FACILITIES THE
HAS BEEN QUITE A WHILE.
THEY HAVE TO CERTAIN WANDA WAS
ENOUGH TO
HUTCHISON THE SOUL FOR THE
PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA.
I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE FULL TIME.
WITH THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
IT SO IT SAYS TO ME.
JUST TO SUM UP
YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE DRIVERS IF YOU WILL WILL
ATTEMPT TO STATE THE FACILITY'S
WATERS THAT CASE OVERALL THIS
IS MY LANGUAGE. LAST
NEWER MISSIONS. THROUGH THE
YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE OKAY TO
AND SO FORWARD TO A FACILITY
HAPPENING.
SOME ULTERIOR THE US LEADERS
LOVE TO USE YOUR WHERE IS THAT
ROONEY COULD EVER. THE TOP
2 O WITH THOSE WHO AREN'T.
EITHER SUPERVISED RELEASE OR A
THAT
A BOY. THE ITSELF AS THE
IMPOSING OF SOME SHOWERS.
I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I WAS THE
STILL WATER WAS
FEAR THAT A COUPLE OF GUARDS WHO SERVED WITH THE QUOTE WAS
ACTUALLY SOME OF THE ROADS.
THE CREDIBLE CHALLENGE IS THAT
THAT THAT CHANGE TO THE
POPULATION; YOU KNOW POSES FOR
MANAGING THE PRISON BOTH IN
TERMS OF MANAGED TO SAFELY.
BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF
ACCESSING THE KIND OF STILL OF
BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES TO GO. WELL MANY OF THEM BADLY WANTS
OVER THE WEEKEND. MOVE ON WITH
THEIR LIVES. THIS WAS A COUPLE
VERSUS OTHERS THAT THEY'RE THERE BUT OVERALL IT'S A CITY LIKE WE'RE AT A CRITICAL
JUNCTURE. ON.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WILL BE
WRESTLING WITH
A COLLEAGUES. A CRITICAL
JUNCTURE ABOUT WHAT WHERE
ALL WHAT DO WE PUT
INTO MOTION O WHAT DO WE CONTRIBUTE IN TERMS OF ANY MOST
OF ALL IT TOOK TO THE
INVESTMENT. IN OUR
ELECTION SYSTEM. AND I OVER SIMPLE FUNDING IT FLOW; YOU KNOW ROUGHLY BILL THE QUESTION
BECOMES DO WE IN THE US THAN
OUR OWN.
MAINSTREAM
APPROACHES THAT THE USE OF OUR
FACILITIES TO DO THAT.
OR DO WE HAVE A SPIN OF
ALTERNATIVES
TO THAT SEVERE THAT THAT'S A CRITICAL QUESTION AND TRY TO BE REALLY CAREFUL MY LANGUAGE HERE
THAT DESERVE CONSTITUENTS IS
CONNECTED TO BOTH OF THOSE
GOALS. THEIR FEET.
YOU KNOW SO YOUR PRESENTATION
THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. THE ORDERS LIKE THE OTHER THING
THAT'S BEEN LAID OUT.
FOR US TO SO JUST REAL QUICKLY JUST LOOKING FOR AFFIRMATION
CLARIFICATION ABOUT THAT AND THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY IT SEEMS TO
ME A LITTLE PULL ALL OF YOUR
PRESENTATION THAT THAT THERE
OPPORTUNITIES THE GOOD.
OPTIMISTIC OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE INVESTING IN SOME NEW THINGS AND PERHAPS EVEN INVESTOR WITH SOME NEW THINGS
THAT WE I LOVE IT. ANOTHER
ATTEMPT OF THE THEY DO THEIR FORM OF
ALTERNATIVES. THERE ARE
OTHER PROBATION. THE STUDENTS
LOADED WITH A MISSION.
>> MISTER CHAIR OF I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS
JUNCTURE THE QUESTION.
I THINK IF WE IF WE GO BACK TO THAT PROPOSITION THAT WE JUST
TALKED ABOUT A SECOND EARLIER. A LOOK AT THIS NOTION OF LEAST
RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S IT'S WHAT WHAT HOW DO WE
ARE WE ACHIEVED COMMUNITY SAFETY ENSURE
COMPLIANCE.
ADDRESS PEOPLE'S NEEDS AND THERE WERE A RISK
ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THEM.
IN A RESPONSIVE MANNER.
AND DO
THAT AGAIN. IT'S AS FAR UPSTREAM AS THE BACK INTO THE
SYSTEM
CAN DO. AND THAT MAY MEAN THAT IT'S BEST TO DO THAT WE BELIEVE
WHEN THEY'RE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
THERE HAS TO
RESOURCES AS WE THINK AS WE
THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OF
CORRECTIONS AND IN TALKING TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE ROLE THAT I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING IN
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE; THERE IS AN INCREASING LEVEL OF
ATTENTION GIVEN TO THIS FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS ONE OF THEM IS SIMPLY THE SUSTAINABILITY
QUESTION. IS THE FACT
WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT THE AT
THE SIMPLE WORKFORCE NEEDS OF OUR STATE AND STATES ALL AROUND
THE COUNTRY.
AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT
THAT OUR VIABILITY.
MEAD DEPEND ON TRYING TO THE
FOLKS THAT ARE TODAY. IN OUR CORRECTIONS SYSTEM WHETHER
THAT'S IN PRISON O OR A MAYBE A
UNDER A
EMPLOYED AND ON SUPERVISION IN
THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A CRITICAL NEED FOR MINNESOTA AND REALLY STATES ARE
ON OUR COUNTRY. SO WHATEVER
BRINGS PEOPLE TO THAT THAT TOOK
THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE DO THIS MOST EFFECTIVE WAY MAN
A POSSIBLE RECOGNIZING THAT
PUBLIC SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT.
AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THIS
FROM THE STANDPOINT OF AGAIN WE
CANNOT.
JUST TOO GREAT CORRECTIONAL SERVICE WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT
THE NEEDS OF VICTIMS OR HAVING
RIGORS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
AND STRONG PUBLIC DIFFERENCE A WEEK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
SYSTEM AND WE INTERNALLY ARE EVEN ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WAYS
IN WHICH WE DO THIS BETTER
THAT ARE ARE THERE ARE STRONG
HANDOFFS BETWEEN PEOPLE ARE
LEAVING OUR PRISONS BETWEEN. THAT CASE MANAGEMENT AND INSIDE
THE FACILITIES AND THE AND AGENTS WERE GOING TO DO A PROVIDING THAT SUPERVISION
SUPPORTERS THEY MAY.
SO SO THE MORE WE BELIEVE THAT
WE CAN DO TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ULTIMATELY EVEN
LOOK TO INVEST AND DEVELOP RESOURCES THAT NEED NOT
SIMPLY THE NEEDS OF OF OUR
CORRECTIONAL POPULATION.
BUT IF WE CAN AND PROVIDE
RESOURCES THAT MEAT THE BROADER
NEEDS OF WHATEVER COUNTY IN THE
METRO OR OR GREATER MINNESOTA.
WE THINK THAT THAT ULTIMATELY
THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF MINNESOTA AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN OUR SYSTEM. SO
CERTAINLY AS MUCH FOCUS AS
POSSIBLE ON TRYING TO ADDRESS
NEED AND RISK IN THE COMMUNITY
AS IS THE THE INVESTMENT THAT
WE BELIEVE THE SMART. >> COMMISSIONER REPORT TO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS SO. PROPOSALS IN
THE COMING
COMING DAYS. WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS ON TRYING TO KEEP US
MOVING QUICKLY. A
REPRESENTATIVE UNTIL.
>> THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR; AND
I REALLY JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD ASKED THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMISSION'S
PRESENTATION WHICH IS JUST IF
YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN; BUT
WAREHOUSING I THINK I HAVE A
GUESS AS TO WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT AND PROBABLY BUT JUST NOT BEING A CORRECTIONS
PROFESSIONALLY FEEL LIKE THAT MAY BE AN ANGLE ON THAT AND WHAT THE OPPOSITE IS ABOUT TO
BE REALLY HELPFUL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU; REPRESENTATIVE
I THINK.
>> BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHERE OUR PEOPLE ARE REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE
BRINGING THEM BACK WITH ALL
THAT AND EATING THEM THAT ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE GOING TO
COME BACK IN FOR THAT IN THIS CASE OF SUPERVISED RELEASE IS
GOING TO BE SUMMER IN THAT FORM
ON FOR LAST RANGE. THEY ARE
GOING TO SET OFTENTIMES WITHOUT
ACCESS TO ANY TYPE OF
MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT IN SOME
CASES FOR THAT IN OUR
INDUSTRY PROGRAMS. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET INTO A TREATMENT PROGRAM INCAS BEAST THE BEAST
IMPART TREATMENT PROGRAM BEDS ARE FULL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING TO BE REPORTER TO RELEASE
FROM THEIR PRIMARY SENTENCE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
SO OFTENTIMES WHEN WE WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT WHERE HOUSING.
IT IS THEY ARE THERE FOR THE
PURPOSE SOLE PURPOSE OF BEING
FAIR AND WE DO NOTHING TO
IMPROVE THEIR STEAD
AND WE BRING THEM RIGHT BACK IN MOST CASES THAT PUT THEM RIGHT BACK INTO THE VERY COMMUNITY.
WE PULL THEM OUT.
>> SAY MISTER CHAIR AND
I COULD JUST COMMENT ON THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO SERVE UNDER CONSTANT COMMITTEE THIS FEELS LIKE A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT TO ME
THAT I FEEL LIKE
WE HAVE A SENSE JUST IN THE
PUBLIC OF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY
COMMITS A CRIME FOR WHICH THEY DESERVE TO BE INCARCERATED
LET'S SAY AND THEN THE IDEAS
THEY GET PUT SOME PLACE AND THEN THEY COME BACK WE'RE JUST
NOT THINKING MUCH ABOUT I THINK I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN FACT THAT THAT ASPECT OF CORRECTIONS THAT IS WHAT IS
HAPPENING WHEN
THEY ARE HOW THE COMMUNITY AND
THEN THAT ENVIRONMENT IS SO CRITICAL I REALLY WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUALLY
HAVING THAT MIKE I THINK THAT
WE WE GENERALLY DON'T WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT PRISONS AND WE'D REALLY SURE THAT SO IMPORTANT
THANK YOU MISTER REPORTING
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
COMMISSIONER THANK FOR THAT.
>> PRESENTATION OF SA AND MY
NOTES THAT STARTED WITH I HEAR
YOU AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD.
I WANT CONVERSATIONS
ON THIS AND UM I GET IT ABOUT
THE WAREHOUSING IN THE TURN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU JUST GOT THAT EXTREMELY WELL I THINK THE PANDA GOOD
PICTURE THAT. THE CHALLENGE
THAT I HAVE IT'S NOT
IN THAT BEING A TRUTH BUT IT'S THE WHAT WE DO NEXT. SO WHAT I
KIND OF HEARD AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO I'M GUESSING YOU'RE
COMING FORWARD WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS IN THE
FUTURE BUT MOST
OF THEM. I BELIEVE THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN EMPHASIS ON THE PROBATION
SYSTEM OR A SUPERVISED RELEASE
OR SOMETHING ON MOST LINES.
SO MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS AN
AND I ALSO SEE BY THE WAY OF POLICY INSTEAD OF MINNESOTA MOVING TOWARDS WHEN PEOPLE ARE
CONVICTED TO TRY TO PUT HIM IN THE PROBATION SYSTEM INSTEAD OF INCARCERATION. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OR
INCARCERATION RATES ARE DOWN.
THERE'S A COUPLE PROBLEMS I SEE
WITH THAT THEY BE THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NOW BRIEFLY OR
AT LEAST AS YOU PRESENT THE
ALTERNATIVES IS THIS ICR PROBATION WHEN I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS
AND OTHER PEOPLE IS THAT THAT
SYSTEM IS REALLY OVERBURDENED RIGHT NOW AND LACKING IN ITS
CAPABILITY OF DOING ITS MISSION
AND SO FOR PUT MORE DOWNWARD
PRESSURE ON THAT NOTE JUST LAST
YEAR. I KNOW THAT MACK ACT WHICH WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A BETTER ACTOR THAN THAT BUT MACK
ACT. ONCE AGAIN CAME
PARTISAN FINDING AND THEN
IT GOT YOU KNOW CUT ON THE
ANYTHING FOR IN THE END WHICH IS WHAT TEND TO HAVE LOCATED
THAT THAT HAPPENS WITH BUDGETS. BUT THEY'RE STILL BEING
EXPECTED TO DO SOME OF THIS
STUFF. MY OTHER CONCERN THAT
THEY WOULD ALSO FOR JUST BRIEFLY IT'S NOT REALLY THE THRUST OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT THAT WHEN WE PUT THIS
PRESSURE ON THE PROBATION.
FROM MAYBE THE CONVICTION SIDE DON'T HEAR ABOUT THIS IN THE
FUTURE AS WELL
I'VE SEEN JUSTICE NOT
BEING SERVED IN MY COMMUNITY
DIRECTLY IN CASES FOR SOMEONE
TO PROBATION ARIE SENTENCE. IF THAT'S HOW THE WAY PROPERLY
WAY THAT YOU SAY IT. THAT THE
VICTIMS FEEL THAT JUSTICE WAS
NOT SERVED; OKAY;
AND SO THOSE ARE THE 2 CHALLENGES THAT I SEE AND HEAR
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ESPECIALLY THE WAREHOUSING THE SECOND PART
IS FOR MAYBE ANOTHER TIME WITH
THE WAREHOUSING GET IT BUT WHEN YOU COME FORWARD; I MEAN
MAYBE COULD GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT RIGHT NOW IS TO SOME
EXAMPLES OF HOW YOU SEE WE CAN
WE CAN WE CAN BE A POSITIVE
HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT IN THE
PROBATIONARY SYSTEM. WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE RATHER THAN WAREHOUSING WHICH I AGREE WITH
YOU WITH. BUT HOW ARE
WE REALLY AS A PROBATION
OFFICERS TO TALK ABOUT LIKE DRIVE-BY PROBATION AND TERMS LIKE THAT AND I DON'T LIKE
HEARING STUFF LIKE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IF ONE OF THESE
PEOPLE THAT TRIPPED UP AGAIN
THE SERVICES THEY NEED BUT FOR
THE SAKE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT THE PUBLIC'S BEEN TAKING
CARE OF THIS WELL BECAUSE
BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THE NEXT PART OF THE
AND SO I DON'T WANT HOLD ROLE.
WHAT PLAYS OUT.
>> IF YOU CAN FOR THIS IS THAT
MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT KNOW I CALL THAT A MAC FOLKS CAN
DESCRIBE THAT. BUT CERTAINLY I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WE HAVE TO RESOURCE THAT THIS OTHERWISE
IT BECOMES AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
AND THAT DOES NOT THAT DOES NOT
SERVE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
WELL. IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T
SERVE THESE THESE FOLKS WELL WE
HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY
TO FUND.
ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THESE PEOPLE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE
HAVE SOME GOOD
YOU KNOW REPRESENTATIVE OF BUT FOR A PROJECT THAT IN ANOKA HAS
BEEN DOING IN AND HAS BEEN
ACHIEVING SOME SOME NICE OUTCOMES THE SIM SIMILARLY AND DODGE FOR ONSTED THERE'S A
PROJECT THAT. THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS MORE
OF A DEMONSTRATION RAMSEY IS
BUILDING ONE AND THEY'RE ALL LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AND
IT'S A IT'S A GREAT WAY
WERE SEEN. WE THINK WHAT WILL BE A OF A MOVEMENT TOWARD
THE
ABILITY TO THE DO GOOD SOUND CORRECTIONAL PRACTICE AND
PUBLIC SAFETY POSTER PROVIDE
PUBLIC SAFETY SUPERVISION IN A
MEANINGFUL WAY AND I'M AND NOT
USE. WAREHOUSING AS A MEANS OF OF
HOW WE RESPOND.
>> REPRESENTATIVE MILLER; LOOK
FORWARD TO THOSE WORKING AND SUPPORTING UNEARTHING SOME OF
THOSE IN THE COMING AND WE
EXPECT PERCENT OF YOU.
>> FIRST I HAVE A
CLARIFICATION QUESTION AS I WAS RUNNING THE NUMBERS OF YOUR
2017 EXAMPLE; THE CHALK A P REMEMBER CORRECTLY; THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE THE
POPULATION WAS ABOUT 640. CAN YOU JUST TELL US AGAIN HOW
MANY WOMEN WERE THERE FOR LESS THAN 30
DAYS AND WHAT THE CROSS IN TAKE WAS AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE
FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
MR.
>> MISTER OF THAT OVER IT'S THE
DIFFERENCE IS IT UP TO RUN
ADMISSIONS SO BECAUSE IT YOU'RE WE HAVE WITH FAR MORE ADMISSIONS DURING THE COURSE OF
A YEAR.
>> SOME 209 P.
384;000 WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
MONEY. THAT THE ANNUAL COST
OF THAT. IT
WAS 293 WOMEN CAME IN WITH THESE UH WHAT'S THE 3RD VISIT
ACROSS THE 13 $128 EACH.
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN
TO US. A
PROCESS WHERE NOW I REALIZE
THAT CON KIND OF COME TO THE
END OF THEIR ONE YEAR IN JAIL
ALTHOUGH I USED TO BE A JAIL VOLUNTEER AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT STAY THERE LONGER THAN ONE YEAR.
>> FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.
THERE'S SOMETHING LEGISLATIVELY
WE COULD DO TO ALLOW THEM TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE AND NOT
BURDEN THE D O C.
>> AND MISTER
CHAIR YES SIR THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE AND WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS I
THINK THAT THERE ARE IN FACT THERE IS HISTORICALLY THERE WAS
SOME POLICY AROUND SOME OF THIS. WE THINK THERE ARE THINGS
WE CAN TO ADDRESS THAT A
WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF.
AND PART OF THIS IS JUST SOME INFORMATION SHARING. BUT THERE
ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. YES.
>> THANK YOU I WANT TO TALK TO US QUICKLY ABOUT THE
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION
PROGRAM AND I WORKED ON THAT
PIECE OF LEGISLATION COLLABORATIVELY WITH MINNESOTA
DON'T TEEN RECEIVING SEVERAL OF THE D O C FOLKS THAT ARE
WITH YOU ANYMORE. BUT THEY WORK VERY HARD AND
VERY DILIGENTLY AND AS YOU
SAID. THE FIRST PILOT PROJECT HAD A 62% REDUCTION IN
RECIDIVISM WHICH IS
OUTSTANDING. MY QUESTION IS WE
HAD TRIED TO EXPAND IT ACROSS
THE STATE THE CHAIR WAS VERY GRACIOUS AND SEEING THAT THE SUCCESS AND WANTING TO MOVE IT
FORWARD. CAN YOU TELL ME JUST
YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS
ABOUT MAYBE EVEN ALLOWING OTHER
NONPROFITS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MINNESOTA DON'T THE CHALLENGE HAS A VERY HIGH SUCCESS RATE
THEY HAVE ABOUT 80 FEET 5 OR SO PERCENT SUCCESS WITH THOSE A
COMPLETE THE PROGRAM. RECEIVING
HAS A GOOD SUCCESS RATE.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT TAKING
THAT MONEY AND ALLOWING IT TO BE USED IN THE NONPROFIT SECTOR
AS WELL AND IF NOT IS THERE ARE
THERE SOME IMPEDIMENTS THERE.
IT WAS.
>> BUT EUROPE; 70 OH YES WE WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND
STRETCH DOLLARS AS BEST WE CAN
AROUND A TRYING TO EXPAND SOME OF THESE
PROJECTS TREND; A TREND FIND
WAYS TO THAT ASKED WHAT WE
BELIEVE IS THE ABILITY OF THE
SYSTEM TO RESPOND A
MEANINGFUL WAYS. AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IT AS I
SAID EARLIER WE'RE RECRUITING
SOME OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER STATE AGENCIES SO WE'RE
WORKING WITH THE
H S WHICH IS THAT ALL THE TREATMENT PROVIDERS. THE
ASSOCIATION OF TREATMENT
PROVIDERS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY A
DAUNTING CHALLENGE HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND REALLY TREATMENT
PROVIDERS ACROSS OUR STATE.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH A BOTH. COUNTIES ACROSS
OUR STATE. OUR AGENTS ACROSS OUR STATE AND
EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND OUR
STATE. THE ABILITY TO TO FIND
DIRECT ACCESS TO TREATMENT FOR
THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT
WHICH IS IN OUR STATE'S BEST INTEREST AND ECONOMICALLY IN
OUR BEST INTERESTS. THERE'S A THERE'S SOME NEW
VEHICLES FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND WE ARE LOOKING TO LAUNCH
THAT AND WORK ON THAT
THE DEAL SHE HAS BEEN ACTIVELY
INVOLVED WITH THAT AND WITH
THEM AND A DEPARTMENT OF
HUMAN SERVICES AND WE THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE
SOME. BIG OPPORTUNITIES
FOR US TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF
PEOPLE IN A VERY EFFICIENT.
AND QUICK MANNER.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
>> BUT I I'M VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS
WHERE THE IMPETUS OF
OF THE WHOLE THING AND OF KEEPING PEOPLE IN COMMUNITY AS YOU AT 7 AND ALL THAT KIND OF
GETS ALL THOSE FACTORS IN
CHECKS ALL THE BOXES AND THE
LAST QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT
STILL WATER AND I WAS THERE FOR OFFICER COMES MEMORIAL; A VERY
SOBERING DAY.
AND WHEN I WAS AT REST CITY
WITH YOU JUST LAST WEEK I HAPPENED TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THE CAPTAINS FROM STILLWATER AND
ASKED HIM HOUSE THE MORE OWL
AND HER THINGS THERE AND
YOU KNOW HE EXPRESSED AND IT'S STILL VERY CHALLENGING AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HIRE PEOPLE.
SO THERE.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT CAN
WE DO HERE IS THERE MORE THAT
WE CAN TO HEAR THE LEGISLATURE
TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT'S
HAPPENING IN STILL WATER AND AND REALLY KNOW IT'S ACROSS YOUR SYSTEM; BUT THEY'VE BEEN HIT PARTICULARLY HARD IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO
HELP MR. MISTER
>> REPRESENTED THE I M GRATEFUL
THAT YOU ASKED I THINK
THIS HAS BEEN PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE
FACE A WE KNOW THAT COMING FROM
LAW ENFORCEMENT WHERE A AND BEING INVOLVED IN THE APARTMENT
WHERE THERE WAS A
I KNOW THAT THE IMPACT OF AN ENVIRONMENT THAT HES SOME
LASTING IMPACT.
IT CREATES A VARIETY OF OF
CHALLENGES.
WE WE'RE WE'RE RESPONDING IN
WAYS TO PROVIDE MORE MEANINGFUL
SUPPORT TO STAFF THERE. BUT
WE ARE TRYING TO BE AS CREATIVE
AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IS WE'RE WE'RE FORESEEN IN CREDIBLE NUMBERS OF
OF OUR STAFF TO WORK DOUBLE
SHIFTS.
WE KNOW THAT THE CERTAINLY IS
CONTRARY TO SAFETY INTEREST.
EVEN THE ABILITY JUST TO HAVING
THE COMING TO WORK AND JUST
KNOW THAT THAT I'M I'M MIKE A
PROBABLY GOING TO FORCE AND IS
IT THIS IS NOT A CURRY ON
OCCURRENCE. THIS IS EVERY
SINGLE DAY
AND AGAIN I WOULD SAY THAT.
LET'S SERVE WITH WITH
COMMISSIONERS FROM AROUND THE
COUNTRY. AND THE DEPARTMENTS OF CORRECTIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME
THING AND YOU'VE SEEN. AND SOME SOME
STATES HAVE DONE SOME PRETTY.
INCREDIBLE OF RELEASING HIGH
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. SOME OF THAT
MAY BE VERY POSITIVE. BUT SOME OF THAT WITHOUT THE
KIND OF APPROPRIATE SAFETY NET
THAT WE THINK ARE IS AS
ESSENTIAL. AND SOUL.
ARE PROVIDING MORE SUPPORT
THERE WE IF WE HAVE A ACTIVATED
A NEW EMPLOYEE SUPPORT
WELLNESS. OUR RESPONSE TEAM. WE'RE SPENDING A
LOT OF TIME AS THE WORD OR TRYING TO RESOURCE THAT AS BEST
WE CAN.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT WE'VE JUST ACTED THAT WE THINK
IT'S CRITICAL IS
WE HAVE REALLY FOCUS TO REDUCE
POPULATION STILL WATER TO
SINGLE PARKING. AND I AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF THERE'S A LESSON THAT COMES OUT OF A
LOT OF THIS. A
DOUBLE BUNKING WELL IT'S IT'S
IT'S CROWDED IN OURS THAT WE HAVE THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO
DO IT. DOES NOT MAKE OUR
PRISON SAFER.
IT'S CONTRARY. I POLICE TO THE
STATE'S INTEREST IN THE LAW.
WE'RE WE'RE GLAD THAT WE
FINALLY HAVE THAT THE SINGLE
AND STILL ARE.
THANK YOU SO THAT I THINK TO QUESTION OR TO HAVE TO SIT ALL
THE YEARS THAT. >> I'VE BEEN HERE I'VE BEEN
HERE FOR A LOT OF I CAN'T THINK
OF A
MORE PAINFUL DURING THAT TIME OR IS THAT SURVIVED AND WHEN
YOU AND I HER CAUSE OF THE SORT
OF PERSON SEN.
STILL WATER WHAT
WAS ORIGINALLY BUT IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD BE ARGUED
SPRINT. BECAME A 6 HOUR PLUS A
GAUGE FOR A IN THE MOST PAINFUL
THROUGH TIME WAS WHEN WE SAT
WITH OUR AND THE HEELS OF THE
DEATH OF THEIR COLLEAGUE.
AND THAT THE SICK WHEN
EVEN AS WE SAT WITH THE
RESIDENCE THROUGH ITS PRESS.
THEY'RE SENT OVER. OVER
WHAT HAPPENED.
REAL PEOPLE THAT THAT THE ACTS
WHERE ONE PERSON WIND UP.
A HORRIBLY UNKNOWN.
BUT NONETHELESS POINTED TO SOME
SYSTEMIC
PERHAPS CONTRIBUTED TO THAT SO
A VERY
PAINFUL PERIOD. THEIR PAINFUL OF ALL THANK YOU REP SEVERAL BE
A PHRASE; THE QUESTION MEMBERS.
WE HAVE UP TO INDIVIDUALS TO THE LEFT FOOT FOR QUESTIONS; I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER OF THE
LOOK OF FEAR.
THAT BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO BE
BRIEFING QUICK AS WE DO WANT TO BUT THE MAC PRO THE CAC PEOPLE
HAVE THEIR TIME. I'M A GOOD
TIME
WITH US. SO WE HAVE ARE UPSET JOHNSON AND WE HAVE
REPRESENTATIVE SAID JOHNSON.
MISTER CHAIR.
>> COMMISSIONERS NOW FIRST OF
ALL LIKE TO THINK THAT REPIN.
WE'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION IT'S
A IT'S REALLY.
I MEAN REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
SAFETY OF THE STAFF.
ME TALK ABOUT THE UNFORTUNATE
DEATH OF OFFICER TOM. FOR THOSE
OF YOU DON'T REMEMBER A FRIEND
OF MINE.
24 YEARS AGO THIS MORNING WAS
KILLED IN SAINT JOSEPH. OFFICER
RYAN KLEINFELD.
AND I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME AND
FACTORED INTO THE. LAW
ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL IN DC AND
I HAVE ROBIN OF HIS NAME.
BUT IT COMES BACK AGAIN TO US
SOME OF THE THINGS. THEY GOT A
COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE CLARIFICATION YOU MENTIONED IN
YOUR SLIDE.
THE CAPACITY OF
OUR MOST HAS BEEN MOSTLY STATIC
THAT HER PRISON BEDS. YOU
MENTIONED THAT OUR PRISON POPULATION HAS HAS BEEN STATIC
AS WELL IN THERE PRESENTATION SAYS IT'S NOT BEEN STACKED FROM
WONDERED WHAT WHAT IS IT.
THE
COMMISSION REPORT.
>> I NOTICED THAT FORBIDS AS WELL I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE FACT THAT IT WAS A SO A REP.
THANK MISTER CHAIR OR A
REPRESENTATIVE I THINK WE LOOK
AT THAT.
GO BACK INTO THE 1990'S AND
INTO
2000. WE SAW DRAMATIC INCREASES
IN IN OUR POPULATION OVER
10;000. THAT OVER THE COURSE OF
TIME IN IN THE 2 THOUSANDS.
THERE HAS BEEN GRAPHIC UP TICKS BUT IT HAS NOT
BEEN DRAMATIC. IT'S BEEN LARGELY STATIC BUT SOME OF THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS THAT WE
ARE AT CAPACITY. AND WE'VE
BEEN LARGELY WHEN WE WERE AT
OVER 10;000. WE HAD A HIGH
NUMBER
OF PEOPLE AND ACTUALLY IN A
HOSE AND HOFF UP UPWARDS OF 45
100 PEOPLE A DAY WERE AUSTIN IN
JAILS AROUND
THE STATE. I'M SO SO HARD THAT THEM AND OUR SYSTEM MARKET WE
WERE OVER OUR CAPACITY. SO TODAY WHEN WE WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT OUR PRISON POPULATION.
ULTIMATELY
THE THE OUR CAPACITY OR ABILITY
TO HOUSE PEOPLE THAT THREAT
WERE FALL. OUR POPULATION.
IT CAN MOVE BUT BUT OUR
CAPACITY IS THAT.
>> MISTER CHAIR COMMISSIONER SNOW. HE ALSO
MENTIONED UNFORTUNATE TO 9
DEATHS IN THE PRISON IN THE.
THE MISSISSIPPI WELL WELL
DOESN'T THIS 50. I'M JUST
WONDERING IF I'M.
IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THERE IS DUE TO A GANG ACTIVITY RIOTS
OR SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE A
COMBINATION OF THINGS.
>> THERE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN
A VARIETY OF THINGS MOST LIVE
THAT UNREST HAS REALLY COME
I THE NUMBER OF THE HIGH NUMBER
OF VITAL AND MADE SOME PEOPLE
THAT ARE OUR WORLD IS ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS. >> THE INABILITY TO FOR
RECREATION INABILITY GET
SHOWERS. >> AND ULTIMATELY THESE THINGS
HAVE ERUPTED INTO RIOTS. THEN ADD TO THAT THE
COMPLICATIONS OF OF REDUCE STAFFING. THOSE HAVE BEEN THE
FACTORS THAT HAVE ULTIMATELY INCREASE THE LEVELS OF VIOLENCE
OF MISSISSIPPI'S PRISON SYSTEM
ALONG WITH CERTAINLY THE INFLUENCE OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY
GANG
VIOLENCE IN THE IN THE IN THE
COMMUNITY THAT'S CERTAIN SPILLS
OVER INTO
THESE FACILITIES BUT BUT
FACILITIES THAT ARE ARE WELL SOUTH THAT HAVE A HAVE THE
ABILITY TO ENGAGE. THE
POPULATION INSIDE THAT
FACILITY. ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT WILL HELP AID AND MAINTAIN
A SAFETY IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
JUST RESTATING QUICKLY ON THE
SITUATION. IT HAPPENED ON
THERE.
CLARION-LEDGER DID US INVESTIGATION INTO IT
THEY FOUND OUT
>> BEING RULES IN THE PRISONS DOWN THERE. DESPITE A 0
TOLERANCE TOLERANCE.
IN MAY STRIKE ON
GAY MEMBERS. STAFF PEOPLE DOWN
AND NOTHING HAPPENS. THAT'S A
CONCERNING THAT AND WHEN I TALK
INTO PRISON GUARDS AND STAFF
ALL ACROSS THE STATE. I'M HEARING THE SAME THING FROM
THEM. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT STAFF
SAFETY.
TELL ME STORIES.
OF WERE EVEN THE WARDEN REQUEST
A CERTAIN LEVEL ABOVE WHAT HE'S
AUTHORIZED TO DO.
FOR DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS; IT'S
TURNED DOWN BY BY THE DEPUTIES.
COMMISSIONER. THAT
WIN THIS PRISONERS HERE THAT.
THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY
WITH ALMOST ANYTHING.
THAT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE
LOOKED INTO LOOKED INTO RIGHT NOW THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO.
JOHNSON SOON ABOUT STAFF SAFETY. IF THE PRISONERS ARE
RUNNING. THE INMATES RUNNING
THE ASYLUM. WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
>> MISTER
REPRESENT JOHNSON I CAN ASSURE
YOU
WE WE WE
OPERATE A A SYSTEM THAT THAT
DOES HOLD PEOPLE TO ACCOUNT THAT I THINK WE SAW IN FACT A
RECENT REPORT THAT WAS ENOUGH PUBLISHED IN THE STAR TRIBUNE
WAS TURNED OVER
HERE AROUND THE USE OF OF A OF RESTRICTIVE HOUSING THAT IS THE
DISCIPLINARY INTERVENTION.
TO SAY THAT THAT THE WORST THAT
WE'RE NOT USING THESE WITH THESE TOOLS WOULD BE UTTERLY
AND COMPLETELY INACCURATE.
WE DO BELIEVE HOWEVER THAT AND
ALL OF THE DATA POINTS TO THIS
BUT WE HAVE TO BE JUDICIOUS IN
OUR USE OF OF OF
TOOLS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY CONTRARY TO THE SAFETY OF OUR
FACILITIES THAT OVERUSE THEM
AND TO BE FRANK THAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN CLEAR ALL
AROUND THE COUNTRY TO THE
POINT WHERE IN MANY STILL IN MANY STATES WHERE THEY HAVEN'T
ACTED. RESTRICTIVE HOUSING
POLICIES THAT ARE VERY LIMITED.
IT'S ALL VERY VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO PEOPLE TO HELP
PEOPLE ACCESS THEM. THERE HAS
NOT BEEN AN UPTICK IN VIOLENCE. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THAT
YOU KNOW WE KNOCK ON WOOD
BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN'T DRAW
CONCLUSIONS BETWEEN ONE AN HOUR
THIS NOT CAUGHT THERE'S NOT CAUSATION CANNOT BE ESTABLISHED
BETWEEN THESE THINGS BUT I WILL
TELL YOU THAT THAT. STAFF
ASSAULTS ARE DOWN
NORTH SALT OF STAFF NORTH SALT
OF ANYONE IN OUR FACILITY
IS ACCEPTABLE. AND I THINK THAT THAT HAST THAT THAT IT HAS TO
BE AND SHOULD BE OUR GOAL.
AT THE SAME TIME.
OUR HISTORY OF ABUSING A DISCIPLINARY SEGREGATION.
DISTRICT OF HOUSING. DID NOT
MAKE OUR SYSTEM SAFER. WE HAVE
OUR OWN EVIDENCE OF THAT.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALLY SMART ABOUT THE POLICIES
THAT WE ENACT.
>> PERCENT REPS OF THEIR LITTLE POSERS HERE BECAUSE WE REALLY
DO.
WE CAN COME BACK.
WELCOME BACK TO RESERVE DO I
REALLY WANT TO GET IT BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE STILL BEING HERE
THEY BELIEVE THE COMMISSION IS
GOING TO
GO ANYWAY. SO WE'LL COME BACK TO POSITIVE SO WITH THAT A
CHAIR CONSIDINE NUMBER OF AS
YOU TO A THE GAVEL AND DIRECTORS
THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR. >> COULD WE HAVE ARTIST TO
FIRES. COME DOWN TO THE TABLE
PLEASE. AND ALSO SOME.
FATHER SETTING UP
A JUST COMMENT ON REPRESENTATIVE MILLER'S QUESTION I THINK IT IS
INCUMBENT
UPON US RECOGNIZE THE
DIFFERENCE
PUBLIC SAFETY AND VIOLATIONS
THAT TECHNICAL
IN NATURE AND I THINK THAT'S
WHERE WE CAN KIND OF
CONCENTRATE ON THE TURN IN THE
WAREHOUSING. OH YES; IF THERE'S SOMETHING AS A PUBLIC SAFETY
PLUG ON A BUS ARE WANTING TO
HAVE THAT CHANGE.
YES LEAVE THE DELTA FIRE SELLS
FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR; BEN AND
CHAIR MARY ONEAND MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE; MY NAME IS TRAVIS GRAN Z BUT SAID GEE ARE
A AN
S III AND THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR IN DODGE
FILLMORE AND ONSTED COUNTY.
AND I'M HERE TODAY HONORED TO
BE HERE TODAY; I'M REPRESENTING
NACAC WHICH IS THE MINNESOTA ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS
ACT COUNTIES. AN AFFILIATE OF
AMC AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE SEATED OVER TODAY TO BE
HERE FOR THIS HEARING SOME.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR
OF AN INCH TERRY FOSTER FSW SEEK 18TH. THE DIRECTOR OF PINE
COUNTY PROBATION. CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNESOTA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY
PROBATION OFFICERS. AND A
PREVIOUS PRESIDENT 2011 OF THE
MINNESOTA CORRECTIONS HONORED
TO BE HERE. BUT YOU TODAY; MY
COLLEAGUE HERE AS WELL; I'D BE SITTING HERE WITH MY
COUNTERPART.
>> SO AS WE BEGIN THIS
PRESENTATION AND SHARE INFORMATION I WANT TO START BY
SAYING THANK YOU FOR YOUR
INTEREST IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT
CORRECTIONS WE APPRECIATE THESE
COMMITTEES SEEKING TO
UNDERSTAND MORE TO ENSURE THAT THE INVESTMENTS MADE BY THE
STATE OR WISE PROTECT PUBLIC
SAFETY. REDUCE RECIDIVISM AND CREATE THE GREATEST RETURN ON
OUR INVESTMENT. SO THANK YOU
FOR THAT. TODAY WE PLAN TO
SHARE JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF
THE DELIVERY SYSTEMS IN MINNESOTA. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMUNITY SUPERVISION
WANT TO ONE TRANSITION TO SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE
COUNTY PROBATION OFFICE
AND THEN TRANSITION BACK TO MYSELF BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT
KIND OF THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WE JUST HEARD
A LOT ABOUT. FROM
COMMISSIONER SCHNELL SO WE'LL
TRY TO MOVE THROUGH RATHER
QUICKLY TO ALLOW TIME FOR BUT
AT THE SAME TIME SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN THIS SO THEY HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING SMALL.
THANK YOU.
JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION IN
THE. COUNTIES IN THE DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTION THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE FOLKS
THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY ON
SUPERVISION. SUPERVISE ABOUT A
112;000 PEOPLE ON ANY GIVEN
DAY. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE VOLUME AND THE NUMBERS THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE ARE 3 DELIVERY SYSTEMS FOR COMMUNITY SUPERVISION IN
THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND
THAT MAKES US PRETTY UNIQUE. MINNESOTA'S UNIQUE IN THAT
REGARD. SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU REAL QUICKLY AND
YOU'LL SEE A MAP UP ON THE SCREEN THAT IDENTIFIES WHICH COUNTY BELONGS TO WHICH SYSTEM
IF
YOU WILL THE COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS ACT COUNTY THEY PROVIDE PROBATION AND SUPERVISED RELEASE SUPERVISION
IN
34 COUNTIES AND SUPER S ABOUT
77;076 1000 FOLKS ON ANY
GIVEN DAY. THOSE ARE SUPERVISED RELEASE MISDEMEANOR; ITS GROSS
MISDEMEANORS; SOME JUVENILES IN THOSE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS ACT
COUNTY. SO IT'S IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE IF YOU WILL IN THOSE
COUNTIES. AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS COUNTIES.
THEY PROVIDE. FELONY AND SUPERVISE A RELEASE
SUPERVISION.
AND THAT OCCURS IN THE CPO
COUNTIES AND THEN JUST IN THE
REST OF THE COUNTIES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
SUPERVISOR. SO THERE'S THIS.
THERE'S A BLAND HERE WE'VE GOT COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS DOES IT
ALL IN SOME PLACES.
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS DOES IT ALL OR THEY SUPERVISE
ALL OF THOSE SAME
OFFENSE TYPES AND THEN IN THE
MIDDLE IS THE HYBRID WHICH IS THE CPO COUNTIES THAT MISTER
FOSSIL TALK A LOT
MORE ABOUT BUT MOST CASES THEY
SUPERVISE A PRE TRIAL AND
JUVENILE AND MISDEMEANORS AND
GROSS MISDEMEANORS AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS PROVIDES THE FELLING ABOUT WITH
SUPERVISION IN THOSE IN THOSE COUNTIES. SO THE STATE OF
MINNESOTA HAS THESE 3 DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT REALLY ALLOWS FOR
LOCAL CHOICE. BUT THERE'S A LOT
IN COMMON ACROSS THOSE
3 DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
WE ALL APPROACH CLIENT SUPERVISION BASED ON THE
EVIDENCE AND WE'RE ALL REALLY
WORKING TOWARDS. I'M MAKING SURE THAT THE INTERVENTIONS THAT WE APPLY TO THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE ARE REALLY
EVIDENCE-BASED.
WE ALL DO A LOT OF GREAT
MEANING FOR OUR STAFF; OUR
STAFF ARE HIGHLY TRAINED;
HIGHLY COMPETENT WE'VE.
I THINK COLLECTIVELY WOULD SAY WE'VE GOT AWESOME PEOPLE DOING THIS WORK ON THE FRONT LINES
EVERY DAY.
AND WE COMPLETE A LOT OF
SIMILAR TASKS. I MEAN THE CAP THAT ASKED TO GET DONE BY OUR
OFFICES; LOOK VERY SIMILAR.
AND THE 3 OF US WORK PRETTY
WELL TOGETHER WHEN IT COMES TO
POLICY CHANGES SO WE'RE HERE
TODAY; I'M SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS IN THE CHIP AND THE COUNTY PROBATION OFFICER HERE TODAY TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE POLICY
CHANGES. THERE
ARE SOME DIFFERENCES THOUGH WITH THOSE AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH YOU KNOW WHO WHO
MAKES DECISIONS WHO SETS THE
VISION WHO DETERMINES
THE PRIORITIES IS THE PARTNER
CORRECTIONS IS THAT THE COUNTY IS IT THE BENCH IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE COUNTY. I'M SO SO YOU'LL
SEE SOME DIFFERENCES THAT IN REGARDS TO HOW THE SERVICE IS
ACTUALLY GET APPLIED AND IMPLEMENTED IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES.
WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND PRETTY SOON HERE ALL TURNED OVER TO MISTER FOSSETT TO TALK
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT COUNTY PROBATION OFFICES.
SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS ACT
COUNTIES AND HAVE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE AND WHAT IT
IS THAT WE TRY TO DO.
YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS ACT YOU'LL SEE WAS
A STARTED IN
1973. AND THE IDEA WAS AND
THESE ARE SOME OF THE THEMES THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER SCHNELL EARLIER
THE
IDEA WAS THE COMMUNITIES ARE BEST IT ARE IN THE BEST POSITION TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THE CLIENTS
NEED.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK BACK AT
THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY HAD IT ALL FIGURED OUT IN
1973; I REALLY DO.
SOMEBODY LIKE THIS DECIDED ON
THIS ACT AND IT INCLUDED LANGUAGE LAKE IT MAKES LITTLE SENSE TO BANISH THE LAW BREAKER
FROM
THE COMMUNITY. PLACE IN A DISORIENTATING ARTIFICIAL SITUATION THAT EXPECT HIM TO
RETURN HOME WELL ADJUSTED.
THE IDEA IS THEY WERE IN THE
BEST POSITION IN THE LOCAL
COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE THE TYPE INTERVENTIONS AND SERVICES THAT
THE CLIENTS NEED IN ORDER TO
RETURN TO A A BUT NOT RETURN TO THE SYSTEM AND RETURNED A LOT OF BITING
BEHAVIOR. AND THIS JUST THE
PLAIN FACT THAT.
INCARCERATION ROOM ON INSTITUTIONS IS MORE LIKELY TO
HAVE A DETRIMENTAL THAN A
BENEFICIAL EFFECT. YOU HEARD
COMMISSIONER SHALL TALK ABOUT THAT THAT IF WE CAN OFFER PROGRAMMING WHEN THEY'RE IN THE
INSTITUTIONS.
THAT IT'S REALLY NOT DOING
ANYBODY ANY GOOD AND IN FACT IT
INCREASES THEIR RISK SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PREMISE BEHIND
THE COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS ACT
WAS WE'RE IN THE BEST POSITION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO REALLY
PROVIDE THE CLIENTS; WHAT THEY NEED. AND IF WE CAN DO SO AND
STILL PROTECT FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY. WE SHOULD.
THERE IS LISTED IN JUST SOME OF
THE STATUTES THAT GOVERN A
COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS ACT IN
THE COUNTY PROBATION OFFICE AND JUST FOR REFERENCE FOR YOU IF YOU WANTED TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL
RESEARCH.
SO NOW FOR A MINUTE I JUST WANT
TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION AND JUST A REAL BASIC OVERVIEW COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION; ONE ON ONE.
AND ONE THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO
HEAR ANYTHING TODAY OTHER THAN
WE ALL BELIEVE THAT I'M PROTECTING THE PUBLIC STILL REMAINS A REAL SIGNIFICANT
PRIORITY FOR US. BUT I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TERMS TODAY IN REGARDS TO SHORT-TERM PUBLIC SAFETY AND LONG-TERM
PUBLIC SAFETY. WE CAN PROTECT SHORT-TERM
PUBLIC SAFETY PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN
PRISON. BUT WE ALSO
KNOW THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY COMES OUT. NO MATTER WHICH OF
THOSE PLACES THEY'RE GOING AND
THEY WILL BE BACK IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. SO ONE OF OUR
PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS
REALLY BELIEVE IS NOT ONLY TO
TEND TO THE SHORT TERM PUBLIC SAFETY BUT REALLY TO CREATE
PLANS FOR THE CLIENTS THAT WE
SERVE THAT CREATE LONG-TERM
PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT MEANS ADDRESSING WHAT IT IS WHAT
THEIR NEEDS ARE. AND THEIR DRIVERS TO THEIR CRIMINAL
INVOLVEMENT.
THE IDEA
THAT WE CAN INCARCERATE OURSELVES OUT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACED WITH THE
CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE IS AN
IDEA THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
WORK TOWARDS THE LONG-TERM
PUBLIC SAFETY.
THEIR IDEA TO CONSIDER WE WOULD
REALLY LIKE TO KEEP THE INSTITUTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT
WERE SCARED OF NOT PEOPLE THAT
WE'RE MAD AT.
THE SYSTEM IS SET UP IN SUCH A WAY AND THE COMMISSIONER SPOKE
TO THIS LITTLE BIT THAT
FOLKS IN REGARDS TO PROBATION VIOLATIONS OR THE RELEASE
VIOLATORS THAT GET RETURNED
INSTITUTIONS. SOME OF THE CHURN
THERE THAT COMMISSIONER SPEAKS
TO IS IN REGARDS MAYBE AND THERE'S A QUESTION MARK THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE
MAD AT.
THE JUDGES TOLD YOU TO DO
SOMETHING THE COMMISSIONERS TOLD YOU TO DO SOMETHING IN A RELEASE CONDITIONS AND YOU
DON'T DO IT. AND THEREFORE YOU'VE BROKE THE RULE AND WE'RE MAD AT YOU FOR DOING
THAT RATE. BUT ARE THOSE PEOPLE
THAT WERE
SCARED UP AND I THINK THE AS
THE COMMISSIONERS TALKS.
SOME OF THE GOAL SO THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS I THINK IT'S MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE FINDING THAT LINE OF INCARCERATING THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE SCARED OF AND
NOT THE FOLKS THAT WERE
OUR WHOLE WORK AND THERE'S SO
MUCH SCIENCE BEHIND OUR WORK.
WE'RE BLESSED RIGHT NOW TO BE
IN A POSITION WHERE WE'VE GOT TONS AND TONS OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE CORRECTIONS POPULATIONS
THAT WE SERVE. SO I WANT YOU TO
HEAR THAT.
THAT WHAT DRIVES US AND HOW WE
DO OUR WORK. IT'S ALL BASED
ON SCIENCE AND IT REALLY COMES
DOWN TO THESE 3 KEY PRINCIPLES; THE RISK PRINCIPAL THE NEED PRINCIPAL AND THE RESPONSE OF
THE PRINCIPAL.
RISK IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE WE ALL OF US HERE ARE PUTTING OUR RESOURCES INTO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE HIGHEST
RISK.
WE KNOW THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW
RISK WE ACTUALLY MAKE THEM HIGHER RISK. SO IT'S THERE'S A SCIENCE INVOLVED IN DOING RISK
A SUSPENSE
AND ALL OF US HERE ARE
COMMITTED TO THAT SCIENCE AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING A RISK ASSESSMENT AND SERVING THE FOLKS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO
SERVE.
THE NEED PRINCIPAL IS REALLY
MAKING SURE THAT WE TARGET BASED ON THE CLIENT THAT'S IN
FRONT OF US
NOT BASED ON THE OFFENSE THAT
BROUGHT THEM TO US BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO STAY OUT OF OUR SYSTEM MOVING
FORWARD.
AND THEN THE RESPONSE OF THE
PRINCIPAL IS REALLY SIMPLE UNITS MAKING SURE THAT WERE
RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE
CLIENT. AND THAT WE'RE USING BEHAVIORAL APPROACHES. WE'VE GOT SO MUCH SCIENCE THAT TELLS
US WHAT WORKS. ALONG
WITH THAT THE SHIFT THAT HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE THE
LAST
FEW YEARS IS OUR STAFF ARE PROBATION OFFICERS THAT ARE MEETING WITH THESE CLIENTS
EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEIR
BEHAVIOR CHANGERS YOU KNOW THIS
TALKS ABOUT BEHAVIORAL APPROACHES. THEY ARE BEHAVIOR
CHANGERS.
SO AGAIN REAL QUICK ON THE WRIST PRINCIPLE; I MEAN I'VE
ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT SOME I WANT YOU TO SEE IT VISUALLY
I'M SO HERE'S A SLIDE THAT
JUST.
WITHOUT A RISK ASSESSMENT. YOU JUST KIND OF GOT EVERYBODY
IN THE POOL RIGHT. AND IF WE
CLASSIFY THEM BY RISK WE KNOW
WHO IS AT THE GREATEST RISK OF REOFFENDING AND THEN IF WE
SUPERVISE BASED ON THAT RISK
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
PROVIDING THE HIGHEST SUPERVISION AND THE PROGRAMMING
FOR THOSE THAT ARE HIGH RISK. THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY GET THE
BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK
OKAY; AND THAT'S THE SCIENCE THAT WE ARE NOW ALL USING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.
THE NEED PRINCIPAL AGAIN I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT JUST INTERVENE IN THE AREAS
THAT WE CAN CHANGE.
UNRESPONSIVE A T A YOU KNOW I
THINK MAYBE IN
THE OR OLD THE OLD RULE FOR A PROBATION OFFICER WAS THAT
PROBATION OFFICERS ARE
CONDITION MONITORS.
WE'VE REALLY SHIFTED THERE'S AN
EXPECTATION NOW THAT NOT ONLY
DO THEY. TO MONITOR THOSE
CONDITIONS THAT THE COURT HAS
ORDERED. BUT REALLY THE PRIMARY
FOCUSES ON BEHAVIOR CHANGE AND
THAT BEHAVIOR CHANGE THAT WORK.
IT TAKES MORE TIME. IT TAKES A
LOT MORE TIME. BUT IT DOES TO
SIMPLY MONITOR CONDITIONS.
SO WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE
TO HAND IT OVER TO MISTER FOSSETT WHO'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CPO
SYSTEM.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MISTER
GRANDI
>> TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND THAT'S THE PILL DELIVERY SYSTEM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT WE SUPERVISE A LOT OF THE
RURAL PARTS OF
THE STATE. WITH POPULATIONS
UNDER
30;000. SO WHAT CAN GET TO THAT
HERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THE MORE ABOUT THAT WE ALSO
USED TO WORK DIRECTLY FOR THE JUDGES; NEW JUDICIAL POLICY
CAME ABOUT IN JULY. AND NOW WE'VE BECOME COUNTY
EMPLOYEES MOSTLY A SEAMLESS TRANSITION. BUT IT HAS BEEN
UNIQUE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING ALONG THE WAY AS
WELL SO.
I WANTED TO FRAME THIS TODAY
AND KIND OF A.
SOME REAL EXAMPLES ABOUT NOT
DAY IN THE LIFE OF A COUNTY
PROBATION OFFICER. AND SO THAT
IS REALLY A TIMELY TODAY
BECAUSE WE AND PINE COUNTY
WE WANTED A NEW POSITION BACK IN 2017 WE HAD TO PUT A BUNCH
OF DATA TOGETHER FOR THAT AND SOME OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO
KIND
OF JUST BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TODAY AND SOME OF THOSE DUTIES THAT COUNTY
PROBATION
OFFICERS DO. I'M AN ANALYSIS IN
2017 TO SECURE FUNDING FOR AN
ADDITIONAL AGENT. IF IT SHOWED
THAT 32.7% OF AN AGENT'S TIME
WAS SPENT DOING A BAIL STUDY JUST SITTING ON THE JAIL
INTERVIEW IN A CLIENT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD GO
OUT AND PRE TRIAL. ONE 3RD OF
AN AGENT'S TIME.
AND WHEN THEY DO A PRE-SENTENCE
INVESTIGATION. WE FATHER TOOK AN AVERAGE OF 5 TO 6 HOURS TO
COMPLETE ONE OF THOSE. WE DO
OUR OWN COG COGNITIVE SKILLS
PROGRAMMING IN PIKE COUNTY
AND 2017 WE DID 303 CONTACT
HOURS FROM OUR PROBATION
OFFICERS. IN THE EVENINGS.
ONCE A WEEK WITH CLIENTS.
THERE'S BEEN AN EXPONENTIAL
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DAILY
VALUATIONS AND
STATEWIDE AND THE CURRENT
REIMBURSEMENT FORMULA THAT
DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SUPERVISION OF THE PROBE OF THE
PRETRIAL OFFENDERS ALREADY THE
JUVENILE WORK THAT IS DONE.
PINE COUNTY PILOTED THE
DOSAGE PROBATION. A FEW YEARS AGO; HOWEVER; THE HIGHEST-RISK OFFENDERS REQUIRE 300 HOURS OF
INTERVENTION DECREASE REST. AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AND PIKE COUNTY TO ACCOMPLISH. NO SUCH PROBATION.
SOME OF THE
OTHER DUTIES.
DONE BY BY PROBATION OFFICERS
ARE LISTED. ANYWHERE FROM NOT SIZER PD EYES VIOLATION REPORTS
DOMESTIC ABUSE ASSESSMENTS. FINE DETERMINATIONS DAMNING
ASSESSMENTS. VICTIM IMPACT
STATEMENTS. RESTITUTION
DETERMINATIONS. THE INTERSTATE
COMPACT INVESTIGATIONS CERTIFICATION; INVESTIGATIONS
AND CHEMICAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS. ALL THOSE TAKE A
LOT OF TIME.
THOSE ARE GREAT EXAMPLES OF THE CHALLENGES THAT A PROBATION OFFICER FACES RELATIVE TO THEIR
TIME.
AND AS AN INSTAGRAM TO JUST
POINTED OUT EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICES. IT'S HUGE AND THE
COMMISSIONER MENTION IT AS
WELL. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT IN THE STATE I WANT YOU TO
HEAR THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST
BUT TO DO SOUND EVIDENCE-BASED
WORK. IT TAKES TIME AND IT
TAKES RESOURCES. AND THE
CHALLENGES PROBATION OFFICERS AND SOMETIMES CHALLENGES THEIR
SAFETY WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A
MINUTE. BAIL STUDY THE STATUE.
6 TO 9.7 FORCES LOCAL CORRECTIONS AGENCIES SHOULD GET
REIMBURSED HER BAIL STUDY.
IT'S NEVER HAPPENED. FOR LITTLE
PINE COUNTY
WHO DID. 453 BACK IN 2017 AND
ONLY THE STATUTORY MANDATED.
BAIL ASSESSMENTS OVER $11;000 THAT $1000 MAYBE TO A BIGGER
AGENCIES NOT A BIG DEAL. BUT THE PIKE COUNTY THAT ADDS
UP.
I'M TRANS
YOU KNOW THE GOVERNOR'S TALKED
PUBLICLY EXPRESSING HIS GOAL OF
AND GIVE AN INCREASED FOCUS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM REFORM AS HAS THE COMMISSIONER
AND WE AGREE. WE BELIEVE THERE
SHOULD BE THAT PROBATION
REFORM. BUT AS I'VE HEARD SOME
MEMBERS SAY TODAY; GOOD PROBATION REFORM CAN ALSO MEAN MORE STRESSES ON PROBATION SYSTEMS AND MORE PEOPLE ARE IN
OUR COMMUNITIES.
ONE THING I WANT I WANT TO STRESS AGAIN AND I HEARD THIS
EARLIER FROM A BUT THE
REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THE
DANGEROUSNESS IS A PART OF OUR JOB. OUR JOBS ARE DANGEROUS.
I SIT ON A COMMITTEE.
I'M A JOINT COMMITTEE WITH 3 DELIVERY SYSTEMS THAT TALKS
ABOUT SAFETY DATA WITH AGENTS
IN THE FIELD. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING TO
GATHER
THAT INFORMATION TO SEE HOW DANGEROUS ARE JOBS FOR
PROBATION OFFICERS OUT THERE. AND WE'RE ALMOST TO THE POINT
OF ROLLING THAT OUT
BUT I CAN TELL YOUNG FEMALE AGENT WRIGHT COUNTY HAD A GUN
PULLED ON OR THIS YEAR PROBABLY NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT
THAT. AND HAS BEEN BATTLING.
SINCE THEN TIME.
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE WE TALK ABOUT AN IMPORTANT RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE IS IF YOU DO ANY
CORRECTIONAL RESEARCH WILL TELL
YOU RESTORATIVE JUSTICE WHAT IS IT YOU KNOW GIVEN VICTIMS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT
THE TABLE YET ALMOST NO AGENCIES DO IT WHY BECAUSE IT'S LABOR INTENSIVE THAT TAKES
TIME.
SO TO SOME OTHER THINGS
THE LOCAL CONTROL AND COUNTY PROBATION SYSTEM. AGAIN WE WORK
FOR THE COUNTY'S NOW.
THE ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT
TO TALK ABOUT HERE THOUGH BEFORE I CONCLUDE AS THE STATUE
2; 4; 4; 1; 9 REIMBURSEMENT
COUNTIES. THE CPO SYSTEM HAS
NOT BEEN FUNDED AT THE 50% FOR
THE STATUTE SINCE 1996. SO IN PINE COUNTY THAT COMES
OUT ALMOST $200;000 THAT FALLS
ON THE ON THE BACK OF A OF A SMALL COUNTY LIKE PINE TO COME
UP WITH.
AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST
ISSUE WITH THE CPA WORLD IS
TRYING TO FUND US AT THAT 50%.
SO WE CAN ADEQUATELY STAFF ARE
DEPARTMENTS TO DO THE JOB IN
THE COMMUNITY HAS LESS PEOPLE
ARE STAYING IN PRISON MORE GOING ON THE COMMUNITIES WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO SUPERVISE THE.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO NOW
MOVE IN AND I UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE GOING TO THE MOVE INTO QUESTIONS HERE SHORTLY BUT I'VE
I JUST WANT TO AT THE END HE REALLY JUST TALK
ABOUT THAT INTERSECT BETWEEN
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND THE
INSTITUTIONS. COMMISSIONER
SCHNELL LAID OUT A LOT OF
INFORMATION EARLIER IN REGARDS TO THE EMPHASIS IN THE FOCUS ON
REDUCE
THE CHURN AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE FOLKS THAT WERE
COLLECTIVELY SERVING ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO REDUCE THEIR RISK SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THAT.
AND JUST TO START COMING AND AS
A IN WE'VE GOT THE 5TH LOWEST INCARCERATION RATE IN THE
NATION.
SO SO WE START FROM A AND IN MY
OPINION A PRETTY GOOD SPOT IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE WORKING
WITH THE CLIENTS. AT THE
SAME TIME. WE'VE ALSO GOT THE 5TH HIGHEST RATE OF COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION AND THE NATION.
SO AS THE COMMISSIONER TALKS TO
THE FACT AND AND SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVE RAISED QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS CREATING A QUITE A
BURDEN ON THE LOCAL.
THE LOCAL FOLKS WHO ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING THAT
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION.
WHAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN AS THIS
TREND OVER TIME IN REGARDS TO
FELONIES.
IF YOU'LL SEE THERE BACK IN
1996 THAT THEY WERE ABOUT
27;000 FOLKS. FELONY
SUPERVISION. AND WHAT WE SEE THEM AS IT MOVES TOWARDS 2018
IS THAT NUMBER IS 46;000.
THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE OF FOLKS THAT HAVE
BEEN CHARGED WITH A FELONY
OFFENSE. AND
WHEN THE AND COMMISSIONER TALKS
ABOUT REALLY OUR PRISON POPULATION; STAYING FAIRLY STATIC. AT LEAST THE LAST FEW
YEARS YOU KNOW
THOSE FOLKS THEN THAT YOU SEE
HERE THAT INCREASE TO THOSE FELONS WHO WHAT AN OTHERWISE BE
ELIGIBLE TO GO TO PRISON.
THAT THAT NOW LANDS ON THE FOLK SHOULDERS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM FROM A COMMUNITY SUPERVISION
PERSPECTIVE. SO AS THE
COMMISSIONER TALKS ABOUT FOR US
SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE WAYS TO
CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THE
PRESSURE HERE. A LOT OF THAT IS REALLY GOING TO FALL BACK ON THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE SUPERVISED IN THE COMMUNITY. THE WE'RE ALL
FOR IT WE'RE ALL FOR SOME OF
THIS THE INNOVATION THAT'S
BEING DISCUSSED. BUT WE ALSO THEN HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHERE
WE'RE PUSHING THAT BUBBLE. BECAUSE THAT BUBBLE WILL GET
PUSHED SOMEWHERE.
AGAIN JUST ANOTHER SLIDE
TO DEMONSTRATE THE FELONY CONVICTIONS AND THE THAT
THEY'VE INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY AND OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS.
YOU KNOW IF THIS COMMITTEE IS
REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT INTERSECT BETWEEN FELONIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE IN THE
INSTITUTIONS. COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION.
EXPLAINS WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
KEEP THE PRISON POPULATION IN CHECK. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
ADAPTATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED ALREADY THERE ARE MORE THAT
NEED TO OCCUR. AND COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION HAS DONE THAT.
AS YOU LOOK
AT THE SLIGHT HERE; I'M I'M
GOING TO JUST TALK FOR A MINUTE
ABOUT THE CHANGING ROLES OF CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND PROBATION OFFICERS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WE'VE REALLY MADE A SHIFT FROM
REFEREE TO COACH AND I KIND OF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT TO SHARE A LITTLE
BIT MORE IN THAT ANALOGY I MEAN THE REFEREE'S JOB IS TO
BLOW THE WHISTLE AND WHEN YOU
BREAK THE RULES WE BLOW THE
WHISTLE AND WE ISSUE A CONSEQUENCE FOR YOUR BREAKING
THAT RULE RATE.
NOW WE'VE MOVED TO THIS COACH
MENTALITY WHERE OUR PROBATION OFFICERS JOB IS TO HELP YOU
CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. THAT'S MY JOB IS TO GET YOU BETTER AND TO
HELP YOU CHANGE. SO THIS CHANGE
THE SHIFT AND COMES BACK TO THE
FACT THAT BEING A COACH TAKES A
LOT MORE TIME THEN BEING A
REFEREE AND THE OUR AGENTS ARE
FEELING THAT.
AGAIN THE AIM OF CORRECTIONS IS
PUBLIC SAFETY AND THROUGH
REDUCE REFIT PERCENT OF AND IT
CAN'T BE ACHIEVED THROUGH JUST
CRIMINAL SANCTIONS THAT JUST
SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK. THERE'S NO RESEARCH THAT WOULD SUGGEST ANY
OF US
THAT THE PUNISHMENT ALONE IS GOING TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR.
IT'S ABOUT THE INTERVENTIONS.
WE WILL ALL MAINTAIN THAT THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST DANGEROUS TO OUR COMMUNITIES NEED TO BE
INCARCERATED.
IS BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY THE BEST WAY TO SERVE THE FOLKS THAT WERE WORKING
WITH.
SO THAT GETS US TO
THE CHANGE. YOU KNOW IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED EARLIER SOME OF THE COMMENTS
THE COMMISSIONER SHALL MADE.
THERE WERE THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOME CHANGE.
BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT
SUPERVISION ALONE DOESN'T
REDUCE RECIDIVISM THAT AS WE
ASK OUR AGENTS TO DO MORE
TO TRY TO CHANGE BEHAVIORS
WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE
ALL FOCUSED ON WE WANT TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR RIGHT. WE DON'T
WANT THESE FOLKS STAYING IN OUR SYSTEM AND ESPECIALLY THEIR
MOST EXPENSIVE SYSTEM AS THE COMMISSIONER DESCRIBED THE $105
A DAY PER ADM IT DOESN'T COST US THAT MUCH TO DO IT IN
THE COMMUNITY RIGHT. WE'VE GOT
TO CHANGE THE WAY WE FUND TO
THE SYSTEM AS WELL. SUPERVISION
ALONE DOESN'T REDUCE RECIDIVISM
CHANGING BEHAVIOR DOES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING AGENTS TO DO IT JUST TAKES A
LOT MORE TIME. THE
INTERVENTIONS MATTER RATE AND THOSE INTERVENTIONS THE BEST
INTERVENTIONS THAT WE HAVE
ARE ALL THE AWESOME STAFF WE GOT BACK IN HER OFFICE IS DOING
THE WORK WITH OUR CLIENTS
THAT'S OUR BEST INTERVENTION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PUT
OUR RESOURCE. THE PRACTICE
HAS CHANGED. WE'VE GOT THE
SCIENCE THAT TELLS US THE STUFF
WE'RE DOING NOW WORKS. WE BELIEVE IN THE STUFF THAT WE'RE
DOING NOW. IT DOES WORK.
THE FUNDING SCOTT TO FOLLOW. THE RESEARCH TELLS US WHAT WORKS THE FUNDING HAS GOT TO
FOLLOW THAT.
STAND FOR QUESTIONS; THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT I AM STRUCK BY YOUR LAST OBSERVATION
IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO ME THAT. >> AND NO MATTER WHAT SECTOR YOU'RE INVESTING YOUR PEOPLE IS
IS THAT IS THE BEST THING YOU
CAN DO AND THE BEST RETURN THAT
YOU CAN GET ESPECIALLY IN THIS
SECTOR WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A
COUPLE QUESTIONS SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SORT OF PASTA FOLLOWED BY
REPS FROM OVER. SO THE KIDS
THAT MISTER CHAIR. MY
IS AS FOR YOU SIR; OR THE
COMMISSIONER.
YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT THE COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT WHERE
HOUSING WHICH IS AWFUL.
TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF
PROGRAMMING FOR PEOPLE THAT GO
INTO WAREHOUSING.
AND YOU TALK TO A LOT ABOUT THE
THE COST OF TURN AND I GET ALL THAT AND THAT WE WOULD DO A
BETTER JOB DOING IT LOCALLY.
I HOPE YOU'RE WORKING WITH
MINNESOTA COUNTIES TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ADDITIONAL
BURDEN THAT THIS CAN PUT ON COUNTIES AND OUR COUNTIES
PREPARED. TO TAKE ON THIS
AND AND THE COMMISSIONER SAID
UNFUNDED MANDATES DON'T WORK
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT UNFUNDED MANDATES
IN COUNTIES.
SO IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF
ANSWER THAT I'M I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT MY COUNTIES; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BURDEN
PUT ON THEIR ABILITY TO DO ALL
OF THIS AND THE COST TO THE
COUNTY.
CHAIR COUNCIL
REPRESENTATIVE I CAN ANSWER A
THE COMMISSION ARE STILL HERE
BELIEVE AND HE CAN WEIGH IN AS
WELL. BUT
YEAH I THINK THAT'S A VERY
LEGITIMATE I AM HERE TODAY
REPRESENTING. >> THE MINNESOTA ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS ACT
COUNTIES AND I CAN TELL YOU
ALL OF THOSE FROM OUR
PERSPECTIVE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE SHIFT IN RESPONSIBILITY
WITHOUT A SHIFT IN RESOURCE.
I DON'T KNOW WE WOULD VOLUNTEER
TO.
THE TRICK HERE RATE IS FIGURING OUT HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT BOTH
CAN BE
THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE
PROGRAMMING CAN OCCUR IN THE
COMMUNITY SETTING AT THE SAME
TIME. I THINK THERE'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THAT JUST IT JUST HAS TO BE RESOURCED
BECAUSE THE COUNTIES WE'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BEAR THE BURDEN ON THAT IN FACT MANY
OF THEM HAVE FOR THE PAST
SEVERAL YEARS. AND I THINK SOME ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY JUST KEEP THE CAMP
ANYMORE.
>> UP BEFORE YOU GO ON.
COMMISSIONER SNOW WE KIND OF A
CAR HARD DEADLINE
3.55 TO ADJOURN. SO FOR YOU KEEP THE QUESTIONS AND THE
ANSWERS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK
YOU.
>> MISTER CHAIR I WOULD JUST I
WOULD JUST ADD I BE WE ARE IN
FULL AGREEMENT. WE WE WE WE
BELIEVE AND KNOW THAT IN ORDER
TO MAKE THIS WORK AND I THINK
AS WE TALK AS THE SYSTEM.
I WANT TO JUST REALLY REITERATE
THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE
REFLECT SYSTEM AND THAT SYSTEM HAS TO BE RESOURCED AND THAT IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN
C FELONY AND SO YOU WERE HERE
SAYING THAT IT ORDERED TO DO
THIS IN ORDER AT THE POPULATION
AND MEET THE NEEDS. IT HAS THE RESOURCES AT THE COMMUNITY
LEVEL.
>> REPRESENTED MUELLER.
>> THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND I
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO
SO I'M I'M A PROSECUTOR WHEN I'M NOT HERE AND MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE PROBABLY
TIRED OF ME SAYING THAT BUT
I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE READ A
NUMBER OF THE REPORTS AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER IN THE COURSE OF MY
DUTIES AND THE FACT THAT YOU
CAN DO APS I IN 5 TO 6 HOURS IS
PRETTY AMAZING BECAUSE OF ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE RESEARCH
THAT GOES INTO THAT SO I
APPRECIATE THAT ONE THING I
DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THOUGH
ARE THE COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL INTERVENTIONS AND I JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD GIVE US
SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT.
>> CHAIR THAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED MUELLER I MEAN I AL IT'S A MATTER OF TERRI WANTS TO
CHIME IN AS WELL BUT.
REALLY THERE'S 2 DIFFERENT WAYS
TO LOOK AT KIND OF SKILLS
INTERVENTIONS I ONE THERE ARE A
LOT OF INDIVIDUAL COGNITIVE SKILLS INTERVENTIONS THAT PROBATION OFFICERS DO IN THEIR
OFFICE WITH THEIR CLIENT ONE ON
ONE. SO THERE ARE CARRIED
GUIDES AND THERE ARE BITS AND I
KNOW THESE ARE ALL JUST LIKE TERMS BUT RATE WE HAVE THESE TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE WITH THEM
ONE ON ONE. THE MEN.
IN ADDITION TO THAT AND WE WILL
TRY TO OFFER A LOT OF COGNITIVE SKILLS PROGRAMS AND GROUPS THAT
WE INVITE 10 CLIENTS INTO OR 14
CLIENTS INTO AN OFFER. THIS TO THEM OVER A
PERIOD OF 26 THE 30 WEEKS
TO KNOW. SO IT'S A IT'S GOT TO
BE A GOOD I THINK THAT THE
ONE THING AROUND THAT IS
THERE AGENCIES RIGHT NOW
PILOTING PROGRAMS CALLED DOSAGE
AND REALLY IT'S ABOUT THEM
GETTING. THOSE CLIENTS; A
SPECIFIC NUMBER OF THOSE HOURS
A 1020300 HOURS OF COGNITIVE SKILLS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE KNOW
THOSE PROGRAMS WORK. SO IT'S GOT TO BE A COMBINATION
OF BOTH THOSE INDIVIDUAL
INTERVENTIONS AND THOSE GROUP INTERVENTIONS AND THEN GET OUR
COMMUNITY PROVIDERS. ALSO BUY
INTO THAT SAME KIND
OF PROGRAMMING THAT SORT OF
NEXT IS WHAT WE NEED AND AT A DOSAGE FOR MAKE SENSE FOR THE
RISK LEVEL OF THE CLIENT.
>> NOW ART SORRY
COMMISSIONER SNOW. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR I WOULD JUST I DIDN'T I TO ATTEND A GRADUATION
OR COGNITIVE SKILLS GRADUATION AND. >> THAT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF
THOSE PROVIDERS UP A PERSON WHO HAD BEEN JONES A CURSE OR A
SHOE PROGRAM. AND ANY ANY TALKED ABOUT THE
THE KIND OF THE IMPORTANCE YOU
KNOW HE'S WELL INTO HIS 30'S;
AT A SERVED SEVERAL YEARS IN A
COUPLE YEARS IN PRISON AND THEN
BUT THE CHILD INCARCERATION
WHICH IS YOU KNOW A PRETTY INTENSE A PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES
A LOT OF COGNITIVE SKILLS FOR
TREATMENT. HE COMES IN THE BACK
INTO THE COMMUNITY AFTER AT THE
END OF THIS HIGHLY
STRUCTURED PROGRAM. AND NOW ALL
OF THE PATTERNS OF THE OF THE PREVIOUS 30 YEARS THAT LED TO
HIM GETTING INTO PRISON. BECOME A PART OF HIS BACK INTO
THE AD ENVIRONMENT AND SO THE
NOTION OF KIND OF RETHINKING
HOW HE DOES THINGS AND HE
PROVIDED A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE
WHERE HE DESCRIBED THIS THING
OUT YOU KNOW; I'M.
IN THE PAST BUT I WOULD DO IS I
KNEW I HAD TO BE OF ME; BUT MY
PROBATION AGENT THAT AT A
THURSDAY MORNING AT 09:00AM AND THE FIRST TIME I WOULD THINK ABOUT HOW I WAS GOING TO
GET THERE WITH THAT A 55 A
THURSDAY MORNING. AND I WOULD COME TO THE REALIZATION I
SIMPLY CAN'T GET THERE.
AND THIS IS JUST PATTERNS AND TRENDS THAT PEOPLE DEVELOP THAT
ULTIMATELY RESULT IN THEIR THINKING CHANGING TO THE POINT
WHERE HE KNOWS HE'S NOW IN TROUBLE FORGET IT; IT
DOESN'T MATTER OF GOING BACK
AND THAT AND THE THINKING JUST KIND OF TAKE SOME FOUND A
DOMINANT INTO THIS FALL.
AND YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE HOW IMPORTANT THE WORK THAT THE
AGENTS TO WITH
THESE FOLKS A REALLY KIND OF
RETRAINING AT THAT THAT
THINKING TO AVOID THE TRAPS THAT THAT GETS THEM STUCK IN
THIS TRAP OF GOING BACK AND
GOING BACK. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS
TO SEE AND HEAR
FROM PEOPLE AS SOMEBODY WHO YOU
KNOW WHO HAS REALLY BEEN MORE OF AN OBSERVER OF THE
PRACTITIONER AT
THAT LEVEL; I'VE BEEN TO ME IS AT THE WORK AND THE OUTCOMES
THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED WHEN THERE IS A STRONG FIDELITY TO THE
PRACTICE.
>> WE GET MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE
ON THE LIVE NOT TAKING ANY MORE
AFTER THAT PLEASE KEEP
IT BRIEF. >> WELL THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR;
SO JUST AT ONE QUICK FOLLOW-UP
AND SO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
FOR EITHER INMATES ARE YOUR CLIENTS MEAN HAVING READ A LOT OF THESE PS EYES; I SEE THE
TRAUMA THAT A LOT OF THE
CLIENTS HAVE FACED IN THEIR
LIVES AND WE KNOW A LOT NOW
ABOUT BRAIN IMPACT AND ALL OF THAT AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING
WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF OF PROVIDERS TO IF YOU COULD JUST BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT THE
COUPLE.
MISTER CHAIR.
>> REPRESENTATIVE I THIS FROM
TALK FROM A FACILITIES STANDPOINT. AND SOME
OF THAT TRANSITION WE AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NEED THAT FOR
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES; AND IT'S TROUBLING TO TO LOOK AT
SOME OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE ARE COMING
INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND REALLY ARE IN SOME CASES OUR LACK OF
ABILITY TO TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL INTERVENTION IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO BE WITH US. ONE IS WORTH THINKING ABOUT THE
WAYS IN WHICH WE BRING PEOPLE
IN AND ARE WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING THESE INTENSIVE
SERVICES EARLY ON AND IN KEEPING IT DOLES THROUGHOUT THE
REMAINDER OF THEIR TIME. INSIDE SO WHEN THEY
GET OUT THEY CAN BETTER PIECES
SUPPORTED BY A BY A
SUPERVISING THINGS IS 1; ONE OPTION AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION AS WE LOOK AT THE NEEDS
OF PEOPLE ARE OFTEN TIMES
COMING BACK. VIOLATIONS BECAUSE
OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THESE PEOPLE SIT IN PRISON AND
WAITING FOR AVAILABLE TREATMENT
BAD. WE'RE BEGINNING TO EXPLORE IS LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO
PROCURE AND TEEN THOSE SERVICES
IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN CONCERT
WITH A WITH SUPERVISION BECAUSE WE THINK AGAIN IT GOES BACK TO
THIS THING UP THE THEIR NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY DOES SEEM TO
MAKE THE MOST SENSE.
WELL IF I COULD HAVE
JUST BRIEFLY FROM THE COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION PERSPECTIVE.
IT MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
RESPONSE OF A DIRECTION I KNOW I BLEW THROUGH KIND OF A RISK
NEEDS UNRESPONSIVE. ADP SAYS.
>> I'M ONE OF OUR JOBS AND IS
TO ASSESS IF MENTAL HEALTH IS A
DRIVER OF THEIR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. THEN WE NEED TO DO
SOMETHING WITH THAT. SO IT IS
TRYING TO GET THE
PROVISION OF SERVICE FOR THAT CLIENT BASED ON THEIR THEIR
THEIR TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S A
DRESS
AS WE'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE
MORE RURAL COUNTIES ACCESS TO
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IS A BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A RESPONSE 70 FACTOR THAT I THINK ALL OF
US TRY TO ADDRESS.
>> THANK YOU SO BREVITY OF A LOST ART;
ESPECIALLY COMPLICATED THINGS
REPRESENTATIVE DEAN PLEASE.
>> AND THANK YOU CHAIR CONSIDINE AND FIRST OFF TO THE
ER.
THE FOLKS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH
PROBATION. AND YOU GUYS DO
AMAZING WORK. AND IF IT'S DONE
RIGHT; YOU HAVE AMAZING PRODUCTS WHICH I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO THANK BUT ITS PEOPLE
LEAVING THEIR BEST LIVES.
AS I'M HEARING ALL THIS TALK I
HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE EVERY PRESENTATION BY EITHER FOLKS
FROM. CRACKS
ASSOCIATION FROM MACC ACT
FROM D O C LIKE
BECAUSE JOINTLY BECAUSE ALL OF
THE STUFF IS INTERCONNECTED AND
AS I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M
THINKING ABOUT YOUR EARLIER
PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONER SNOW ABOUT ACTUALLY REDUCING THE
NEED FOR BETS.
WE KNOW THAT AS YOU CONTINUE TO
REDUCE THE NEED FOR BEDS THAT
CHANGES; SORT OF THE FINANCIAL
NEEDS OF D O C AND AT SOME
POINT WE REACHED A TIPPING POINT THAT WE ACTUALLY BEGIN TO
SEE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND THEN HOW THOSE SAVINGS MIGHT
ACTUALLY MEET THE APPLICATION THAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO DO
AND IF THERE'S MORE PEOPLE ON
PROBATION. AND IF THERE'S NOT
MORE FUNDING THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN SO. COMMISSIONERS TELL
IF YOU COULD JUST.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW THE MISSION WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE MIGHT SEE HERE IN
THE NEAR NEAR FUTURE
WHETHER IT'S YOU JUST REDUCTION
OF BEDS
OR POSSIBLY; CLOSING OF A PARTICULAR FACILITY. WHAT THAT
MIGHT THEN DO TO
SUPPORT THEM. PROBATION AND COMMUNITY SUPERVISION IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT THAT WOULD
BE GREAT.
FIRST MR. MISTER
>> REPRESENT THE
I A I THINK THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE QUESTION I THINK
AS WE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT I THINK THIS HAS BEEN
THE CASE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE COULD NOT CONTINUE TO ASK FOR A BIGGER PIE WE HAVE TO
BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT THE WAYS
IN WHICH WE CUT THE PIE THAT
MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND IT IS
SUSTAINABLE AND AS WE LOOK AT THE POPULATION PRODUCTION AND MEETING PEOPLE'S NEEDS IN THE
COMMUNITY. THERE
IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THAT WE
COULD SHIFT
OUR INVESTMENTS. INTO BRICKS AND MORTAR AND BRICKS AND MORTAR I WOULD ADD THAT HAS A
LOT OF NEEDS. THE
CAPITAL IS THAT ULTIMATELY.
OH WE MIGHT BE WE MIGHT SEE A TIE. WHEN WHEN THE CLOSURES
OF OF THE THE FACILITY COULD
IMPACT SLEEPY REINVEST BACK IN
THE SUPERVISION SIDE BUT NOT
JUST SUPERVISION; BUT BUT
ACTUALLY BUILD UP AND LIFT UP THE ABILITY OF A COMMUNITY TO
MEET ITS ITS BROADER D NOT JUST
THE CORRECTIONAL POPULATION;
BUT ITS BROADER NEEDS AND I
THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT THAT UH THAT IS
THAT HAPPENING.
JUSTICE REINVESTMENT AND WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS
ALONG WITH OUR PARTNERS HERE. BRINGING IN ENGAGING SOME FOLKS
FROM OUTSIDE THE TO ACTUALLY
EXPLORE THIS ALONG WITH ALL OF
YOU AND MEMBERS OF
THE JUDICIARY. WHAT WHAT COULD THIS LOOK LIKE IN MINNESOTA IN
A WAY THAT THAT WE COULD
ACTUALLY TRY TO CREATE A SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM THAT MEETS THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEMANDS THAT
THAT THIS TO HAPPEN.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER;
SNOW REPRESENTATIVE OWN MEAL
REALLY QUICKLY REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON; I'M SORRY I'M I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE A I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ALSO THAT
I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN YOU WE WILL GET MAKE SURE YOU CONNECT
WASHINGTON; IT. FROM THE START.
>> DO YOU
REALLY QUICKLY PINE COUNTY BUDGET FOR PROBATION SKI JUST
LET US KNOW HOW BIG THAT IS OR HOW SMALL HEAD OF I KNOW PAYNE
COUNTIES; NOT A BIG COUNTY.
AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHOULD NOW WHICH
BACK TO STATUTE THAT TO 44
POINT 1; 9 WHEN IT. READ
THE WORDS MY COLLEAGUES KNOW I
LOVE WORDS.
IT SAYS THE COMMISSION OF
CORRECTION SHALL ANNUALLY FROM ROUTE FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR
THAT PURPOSE FAITH THAT TO
PERCENT OF YOUR COSTS; CORPORATIONS OFFICERS AND I'M
JUST WONDERING. THE WHY
IS THAT AS THE LEGISLATURE
APPROPRIATE THAT INITIALS
PASSED THROUGH THE D O C OR DOES THAT YOU SEE HAVE SOME
CONTROL OVER THAT FUNDS
JUST TRY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THE FUNDS. THANK YOU PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE O'NEILL A
PIKE COUNTY'S BUDGET. >> AND JUST WENT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE NOW WE WANT TO THE
COUNTY SCALE A SORT OF A
MILLION DOLLARS. STILL PRETTY SMALL HE CONSIDER THAT'S A 10
STAFF; INCLUDING MYSELF.
I'M A LETTER TO COMMISSIONER I
THINK RESPOND TO THE. CPR
REIMBURSEMENT YOU COULD PUT IT;
LOOK AT
A QUOTE. WELL WRITE THIS LAST
YEAR AND REIMBURSEMENT WAS AT 29%. THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS BUT
ABOUT 2930%. SALT
AND THAT THAT DON'T THAT
DOESN'T INCLUDE SUPPORT STAFF
THAT DOESN'T ONLY INCLUDE
AGENTS -1 AGENT THAT'S PAID FOR UNDER A GRANT OF THEIR CASELOAD
WORKLOAD GRANT. SO THAT'S A
7 PEOPLE NOW THAT ARE UNDER A
KEY PEELE REIMBURSEMENT. AND THIS LAST YEAR I BELIEVE OUR REIMBURSEMENT DOLLARS WERE.
THE $350;000
BEEN TAKEN.
BUT SO I LIKE I SAID EARLIER
I'M IT THE COUNTY PICKS UP
QUITE A BIT OF THAT. THAT COMMISSIONER HELEN WAS HERE HE WOULD SAY THAT IT'S
HARD TO TALK ABOUT SURPLUS WHEN
I CAN 50% REIMBURSEMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> WE HAD MISSION STONE OR
CHAIR; A REPRESENTATIVE NEIL. THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I'M I'M
GOING TO HOPE GO BACK AND GET
SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON
FOR FOR ONE; BUT I DO KNOW THAT
THIS HAS
AN AREA OF CONCERN
FOR A LONG THE LEVELS OF
REBIRTH APPLE TO CEASE THE PRETTY CORRECTIONS AS WELL AS THE CBO AND YET THE STATUTE IS
VERY CLEAR. I THINK ALONG THE
WAY WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT
APPROPRIATION DID NOT THE WITH
NOT TO INCREASE THE
THAT FRONT. WE HAVE
BEEN ASKING YOU FOR THAT AS WELL I KNOW THAT I'M THE ONE
TIME I A IT WAS MADE IN ASK WE
DID THAT WAS NOT CERTAINLY
REFLECTED THERE. AND I THINK
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT HAS
BEEN A CHALLENGING AN ISSUE IS.
AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE FUND.
IN MANY OF THESE AREAS.
WE'RE FUNDING AT A BOOK THAT THE CBO LEVEL AND THEN AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS LEVEL
AND THIS BECOMES ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK AS WE AS WE
TALK ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT BUT
CREATES THE SCENE ONE SYSTEM. ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES AND SO I
WILL DEFINITELY GET AN ANSWER
TO THAT AND HOW AND WHAT THAT
IS THE HISTORY IS AROUND THOSE REQUESTS BECAUSE I SIMPLY DON'T
ALL THAT.
THANK YOU MEMBERS. WE
ARE AT BEST ARE HIGHER SORT OF
THOSE THAT REPRESENT A CONSTANT EYE.
>> CHARACTERIZE THE GREAT
FUTURE CONSIDINE THROUGH THIS
JOINT HEARING. THAT EUROPE CERTAINLY OVER THE
LAST POSSIBLE IS REALLY THEIR
CUSTOM. MEMBERS WE DO HAVE
ANOTHER HEARING OH 5 O'CLOCK
WELL THE PUBLIC SAFETY CRIMINAL JUSTICE REPORTER COMMITTEE
ALONG WITH THE HOUSE THE
NUMBERS; A BURST.
IT ALONG WITH THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE OF 05:00PM
AT THE AUDITORIUM; BUT THE MITCHELL HAMLINE LAW SCHOOL AND AFTER THAT PERIOD THAT HEARING
GOES ON BROADER ISSUES OF RACE
AND THE LAW. AFTER THE HEARING
WE WILL HOST A RECEPTION
WITH SOME OH GOOD REFRESHMENTS
PROVIDED SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE ON UNCOVER
PARTICIPATED AND CONTINUE
THAT CONVERSATION INTO THE OR
LEAVE IT. I WANT TO MAC PRO A
MECCA FOR AND WE'LL SEE OPRAH COMING HERE IN THE SPIRIT OF
WHICH WE INVITED TO O WHICH
QUITE FRANKLY NOT FOR A
CONVERSATION ABOUT PARTISAN
ISSUES OVER FOR A CONVERSATION
FOCUS.
PROBLEM SOLVER AND OF I HOPE
THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT SPIRIT
GOING IF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION; LOVERS ARE WE DOING
THESE START GETTING INTO SOME PRETTY DEEP OF PARTISAN ISSUES
BUT WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THAT WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE
AND SOLVE PROBLEMS. WE ARE AT A
CRITICAL JUNCTURE. AS WE'RE
SURE EARLIER. I HOPE THAT WE
CAN SEIZE THAT MOMENT CAUGHT IN
THE COMING MONTHS SO WITH THAT
I'M WITH YOUR PERMISSION TO NOT SLOW THIS HERE IS STANDS
