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>> IT IS TIME!! WITH
HERMAN AND SHARRON!!
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, AND
STOP RIGHT OUT HERE, AND
WE HAVE OUR WAITING AREA
AND THE AWAITING VIEWERS,
ALL OVER AMERICA. AND
PARTS MAY BE THAT WE HAVE
NEVER EVEN VISITED.
>>SHARRON: WELL, THAT
WOULD BE TRUE.
>>HERMAN: ARE YOU EXCITED
ABOUT TODAY'S PROGRAM?
>>SHARRON: I AM AND I'VE
HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THIS
MAN, I CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR
THE STORY.
>>HERMAN: SOLOMON DARWIN,
AND WAIT, WHAT A GREAT
NAME, AND WAIT, AND WAIT
AND SAY THAT THREE TIMES,
TO GET UNDERSTANDING. AND
UNTIL YOU WOULD HEAR HIS
TESTIMONY OH, LET'S HEAR
IT.
>>SHARRON: I WANT TO HEAR
THAT RIGHT NOW.
>>HERMAN: LET'S GO TO
MEET HIM. IT IS SO GOOD
TO HAVE YOU AND HOW ARE
YOU?
>> GUEST: I'M SO HAPPY TO
BE HERE.
>>HERMAN: THIS WOULD BE
MY WIFE, AND WE HAVE
CELEBRATED 60 YEARS.
>>SHARRON:
CONGRATULATIONS YES.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW
AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN 60
YEARS OLD, AND YOU KNOW,
YOU ARE MARRIED FOR A LONG
TIME WHEN YOU ARE IN MY
FAMILY.
>>SHARRON: HE TELLS
EVERYBODY.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW,
CAN YOU GET THIS CLOSE-UP?
LET'S GET UP CLOSE TO
SOLOMON, I LOVE THE NAME,
I LOVE THIS, SOLOMON
DARWIN, HE WAS BORN IN AN
UNTOUCHABLE, AND WE WOULD
GET INTO THIS, IT WAS A
VILLAGE IN INDIA. HE IS
THE DIRECTOR OF THE CARMAN
GARWOOD CENTER, FOR
CORPORATE INNOVATION, AND
THE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AND
THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA AT BERKELEY.
HE HAS INTERNATIONAL
REPUTATION FOR SPEAKING,
AND FOR LEADERSHIP, AND A
PASSION FOR TEACHING. HE
WAS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR
FOR NINE YEARS AT THE
MARSHALL SCHOOL OF
BUSINESS, HIS CORPORATE
LEADERSHIP, HE HAS 14
YEARS OF LEADERSHIP
EXPERIENCE. AND HE IS AN
OFFICER IN THE BANKING
INDUSTRY. ALL RIGHT LET
ME TOUCH HIM.
AND HE HAS BEEN WORKING
ON WORKSHOPS IN OVER 18
COUNTRIES, AND HE IS THE
FATHER OF THE SMART
VILLAGE, YOU WILL HEAR
ABOUT THAT, THE SMART
VILLAGE MOVEMENT. AND HE
HAS BUSINESS MODELS THAT
WOULD SUPPORT RURAL
VILLAGE MARKETS, AND
WORKING WITH THE
GOVERNMENT IN INDIA. AND
WHAT AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU.
I HAVE READ YOUR BOOK, I
WILL SHOW YOUR OTHER BOOK
AND YOU COULD GO TO THE
WEBSITE. AND THIS WOULD
BE THE ROAD TO MAURY.
THIS WOULD BE MORE
RECENTLY?
>> GUEST: AND YES, MY
OTHER BOOK, THE
UNTOUCHABLES IS MORE
RECENT, AND YOU KNOW, THIS
IS WHERE I WAS BORN IN
INDIA. AND THIS WAS DONE
BY THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW HE
JUST MENTIONED THE SMART
VILLAGE, AND LET'S SHOW,
LET ME SHOW THE VIDEO
CLIP, AND MAYBE YOU
COULD GIVE ME A READ IN,
TO HIS TESTIMONY, TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS.
>> [ ELECTRONIC MUSIC]
AND I HAVE DONE TO MAKE
THE CITIES MORE FRIENDLY,
UNDER OUR MISSION TO MAKE
CITIES SMARTER. AND THIS
IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN
INDIA. AND IN 2015, AT WE
WANT TO CONVERT THE
VILLAGES INTO SMART
VILLAGES, ABOUT 300. AND
THIS IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT
THAN THE URBAN SETTING.
AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE
WOULD BE SUCH A QUALITY OF
LIFE, QUALITY OF LIFE AND
HEALTHCARE AND EMPLOYMENT
AND EDUCATION.
>> AND THIS IS NOT JUST
ABOUT A SMART CITY BUT IT
WOULD BE ABOUT WORKING
WITH THE PEOPLE.
>>HERMAN: AND WE WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS
JUST UNBELIEVABLE. IT IS
A VISION, THAT THIS MAN
HAS HAD, AND OF COURSE
FINANCIALLY AND HE CAN USE
-- AND GOD IS USING HIM,
AND GOD IS USING THEM, TO
PROMOTE HIS VISION, AND
GOD, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE
BORN, IN AN UNTOUCHABLE
AREA IN INDIA. AND TELL
ME WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
>> GUEST: WILL YES, AND
THE STORY THAT I WILL TELL
YOU ABOUT MY LIFE, AND MY
GRANDMOTHER IT WOULD BE
DONE IN A HISTORICAL
SETTING, IT WOULD BE
ABOUT THE DARK SIDE OF
THIS CASTE SYSTEM IN
INDIA.
>>HERMAN: AND WHAT DO YOU
MEAN BY THAT? THE CASTE
SYSTEM?
>> GUEST: AND THERE WOULD
BE THREE CLASSES, AND IT
WOULD BE THREE CLASSES,
AND THE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN
THE DIFFERENT CASTE, AND
THERE ARE PEOPLE, AND IT
WOULD BE A BELIEF, THAT
THE DEITY HAS PUT YOU IN A
SOCIOECONOMIC STRATA.
AND THEN THERE IS THE
LEADER CLASS AND THE
RULING CLASS, AND THEN
THE SERVANT CLASS WOULD BE
DOUBTED BY THE FEET, AND
THEN THE SUB HUMANS,
BELOW ANIMALS, WOULD BE
AT HIS FEET, AND THEY
WOULD BE CRUSHED BY THIS
DEITY. AND THAT WOULD BE
MAYBE, ABOUT 200 MILLION
PEOPLE. AND THAT WOULD BE
A GREAT LARGE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE. IT WOULD BE
DETERMINED BY THE BLOOD
CURSE, THIS WOULD BE BORN
AT BIRTH, AND THERE IS NO
HOPE AND NO WAY OUT, NO
SALVATION. THAT IS JUST
YOUR LOT IN LIFE.
>>HERMAN: YOU SAY IN THE
BOOK, YOUR CASTLE WOULD BE
A BIRTH RIGHT.
>> GUEST: WILL YES,/ I
MEAN THE CASTE SYSTEM,
AND THEY BELIEVE,
REINCARNATION, AND YOU
WOULD BE BORN MANY TIMES,
AND YOU WOULD GO FROM
BIRTH TO BIRTH. AND THE
UNTOUCHABLES ARE JUST SO
BAD, AND THEY HAVE DONE
SO MUCH BAD IN THE PAST,
THEY WOULD BE BORN AS
UNTOUCHABLES.
>>HERMAN: WE HAVE GOT 30
MINUTES, SO I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IT, AND YOU ARE A
PROFESSOR, AND WE COULD
STRUCTURE THIS AND YOUR
MIND IS STRUCTURED, AND I
CAN BE SOMEWHAT
UNSTRUCTURED, AND WE
WOULD BE MET FOR ONE
ANOTHER. BUT IN YOUR
BOOK, YOU TALK ABOUT THE
SWINGING CEREMONY, WHAT
IS THAT?
>> GUEST: WELL THAT WOULD
BE SOMETHING, AND IN MY
GRANDMOTHER'S DAY,
AND UNTOUCHABLE WOULD,
AND THEY WOULD BE THE
PROXY FOR SOMEBODY IN A
HIGHER CASTE. AND THEY
WOULD PUT METAL HOOKS IN
THEIR BACKS, AND THEY
WOULD SWING THEM. AND
THAT WOULD GO RIGHT
THROUGH THE SKIN. AND
THEY DIE. IT WOULD BE
DURING THE TEMPLE
CEREMONIES.
>>HERMAN: BUT WHAT WOULD
THAT DO?
>> GUEST: IT WAS SOME
TYPE OF REDEMPTION TO GET
INTO THE HIGHER CASTE,
THIS HAS GONE ON FOR A
VERY LONG TIME AND THEY
HAVE ABOLISHED IT, AND
NOW, THAT WAS THE HISTORIC
LOOK, AND THE
PERSPECTIVE. I WANT TO
SAY, AND THIS IS NOT
UNIQUE TO INDIA, EVERY
CIVILIZATION, AND THEY
HAVE IN JUSTICE, AGAINST
THOSE THAT ARE VOICELESS
AND POWERLESS. THIS IS
THE DARK SIDE OF INDIA.
IN THE WEST,AND WE HAVE
OUR OWN IN JUSTICE. AND
YOU KNOW THE BRITISH
COLONIZATION, AND AFRICA,
THE APARTHEID, AND THE
NAZI GERMANY, AND THESE
THINGS ARE STILL GOING ON
TO NAME A FEW. BUT THEY
WOULD BE DISGUISED MORE
INTELLIGENTLY. AND OUR
NATURE HAS NOT CHANGED.
>>HERMAN: HOW DID YOUR
FAMILY, GET THE VICTORY
OVER THIS UNBELIEVABLE, I
MEAN, IF I COULD ENVISION
AND WHEN I WAS READING
YOUR BOOK, AND WHEN I
WOULD THINK ABOUT THE
CASTE SYSTEM, I WOULD SEE
PEOPLE, AND YOU KNOW THEY
WOULD BE AT THE CITY DOWN,
THE GARBAGE DUMP,/ AND
THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT EVEN
WANT TO TOUCH THEM. IN
NO, THAT WOULD BE
INHUMANE.
>> GUEST: YOU KNOW, IF
YOU ARE UNTOUCHABLE YOU
WOULD BE JUST THAT, IT
WOULD BE BAD LUCK TO LOOK
AT THEM AND IT WOULD BE
BAD EVEN TO TOUCH THEM.
AND YOU KNOW AND MAYBE IF
YOU RAN INTO AN
UNTOUCHABLE YOU WOULD GO
BACK HOME AND START OVER
THIS IS HOW BAD IT IS.
THE WHOLE SYSTEM, IT
WOULD BE LIKE THE KARMA,
WHAT YOU DID FROM YOUR
PREVIOUS LIFE. AND SO,
AND THE STORY WOULD BE
ABOUT THE CONTRASTING THE
NATURE OF MAN AND THE
NATURE OF GOD.
AND THE NATURE OF SINFUL
MEN WAS SO DESTRUCTIVE,
AND THIS IS THE STORY.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU ARE A
LITTLE BOY IN YOUR
VILLAGE, YOU HEARD A RADIO
PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE
LIKE, A LOUDSPEAKER? AND
I GUESS THAT WAS JUST ONE
RADIO AND TELL ME ABOUT
THAT?
>> GUEST: WHEN I WAS
GROWING UP, AND SOMEBODY
WENT TO THE MIDDLE EAST,
AND THEY BROUGHT BACK A
TRANSISTOR RADIO. AND FOR
US, IT WAS A DELIGHT AT
WE HAD NEVER HEARD MUSIC
BEFORE. THE NEWS, AND THE
MUSIC AND WE WOULD TAKE
THAT RADIO, AND WE WOULD
PUT THIS UP ON THE BRICK
PILE AND THE ENTIRE
VILLAGE WOULD LISTEN TO
THIS TINY RADIO. IN OUR
OWN LANGUAGE. IN OUR
LANGUAGE. AND YOU KNOW
AND WE HEARD NEIL
ARMSTRONG LAND UPON THE
MOON. AND YOU KNOW, HE
WAS ON THE MOON. AND WE
HEARD OF THE BIBLE BEING
READ. AND YOU KNOW, AND
THEY DID THAT. IT WAS
REMARKABLE FOR ME.
>>HERMAN: AND WHAT DID
THAT SAY TO YOU?
>> GUEST: IT WOULD BE SO
TOUCHING, AND OF COURSE
MY GRANDMOTHER BELIEVED
AND WE WERE BELIEVERS IN
CHRIST, BUT WE WERE SO
THRILLED TO HEAR THIS. IT
WAS JUST AMAZING.
>>SHARRON: I WANT TO HEAR
ABOUT YOUR GRANDMOTHER.
>> GUEST: AND THE STORY
OF THE BOOK, THE
UNTOUCHABLES IT WOULD BE
THE STORY OF THE CHILD
BRIDE, AND THIS IS WHAT
IT IS, AND THIS WAS A
LITTLE GIRL THAT WAS AN
UNTOUCHABLE THAT WAS A
BLOOD CURSE, AND THERE
WAS NO REDEMPTION. SHE
WAS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT
WAS 20 YEARS OLDER THAN
HER. SHE WAS A CHILD
BRIDE. AND THEN SHE HAD
ANOTHER CURSE, AND SHE
COULD NOT HAVE ANY
CHILDREN AND YOU KNOW,
THAT IS ANOTHER CURSE WHEN
YOU ARE CURSED BY THE
DEITIES, AND SHE WAS
CURSED AND ABANDONED AND
ABUSED BY HER FAMILY,
AND SHE COULD NOT BRING IN
THE FAMILY LINEAGE. AND
THE HUSBAND WANTED MORE
CHILDREN. SHE WAS
REJECTED BY THE FAMILY.
AND HER HUSBAND REJECTED
HER AS WELL AND THE GODS
THAT SHE HAD WORSHIPED,
AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR LOT
IN LIFE.
>>HERMAN: YET SHE BECAME
OF ENTREPRENEUR? AND
COULD YOU GO WITH ME
THERE? ON THE JOURNEY?
>> GUEST: AND THIS WOULD
BE BECAUSE AND NOT IS
BECAUSE SHE WANTED IT,
BUT SHE WAS PURSUING, SHE
WAS LOOKING FOR THE
SAVIOR. AND THAT MADE ALL
OF THE DIFFERENCE. SHE
CALLED ON THE MANY GODS
TO TAKE THE CURSE AWAY.
SHE HAD 300 MILLION
DEITIES IN INDIA FROM
WHICH TO CHOOSE. AND SHE
FELT NO REDEMPTION. AND
SHE COULD NOT LIFT THE
CURSE AND THERE WAS NO
SAVIOR. AND NO ONE COULD
ANSWER THE CALL. SHE
FOUND NO SHEPHERD, AND
NOBODY WOULD HELP HER,
NOBODY WOULD SECURE HER OR
PROTECT HER AND LEAVE HER.
SHE WAS BOUND IN THE CAGE
OF THE KARMA, OF HER PAST
SINS AND THAT WOULD BE
GENERATIONAL. SHE NEEDED
A SAVIOR. AND SHE NEEDS
ONE WHO CAN RESTORE IT AND
YOU CAN BLESS AND THAT WAS
THE SEARCH. IT WAS THIS
SEARCH AND WHEN SHE FOUND
THE LORD, THAT CHANGED HER
LIFE. HER PROSPERITY WAS
A RESULT OF THE SAVIOR.
>>SHARRON: HOW DID SHE
FIND JESUS?
>> GUEST: AND SHE WAS 40
AND BARREN AND PERSECUTED
FOR 40 YEARS, AND
SOMEBODY ELSE WAS SELECTED
FOR THAT MAN AND SHE HAD
TO LEAVE, SHE WOULD BACK
TO THE FATHER, AND THE
FATHER SAID, YOU KNOW,
YOU HAVE BROUGHT A CURSE
UPON THE FAMILY. YOU ARE
BARREN. SHE HAD NOWHERE
TO GO.
AND SHE TRIED TO DROWN
HERSELF IN THE RIVER.
AND THERE WAS A HAND, IT
WAS IN THE BOOK, SOMEONE
PULLED HER OUT OVER THE
RIVER.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE
IT WAS THE HAND OF
CHARLES PERCY WHITE HOUSE,
HE WAS A YOUNG
ENGLISHMAN, AND HE WAS A
MISSIONARY, AND HE
LEARNED THE LANGUAGE, AND
HE COULD SEE, THIS WOMAN
DROWNING. HE PULLED HER
UP OUT OF THE WATER AND HE
WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS
GOING ON SHE WAS
BEAUTIFUL. SHE WAS
UNTOUCHABLE. SHE WAS
CURSED, SHE SAID. THERE
IS NO HOPE, SHE SAID. SHE
SAID, I AM NOT A BLESSING.
AND THEN CHARLES SAID, I
WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR
GOD, WHO CAN TOUCH THOSE
THAT ARE UNTOUCHABLE, AND
THE GOD THAT COULD TAKE
THE CURSE AND MAKE IT A
BLESSING TO MANY PEOPLE.
AND THAT WAS A TURNING
POINT AND HE PRAYED FOR
HER AND THE PAIN THAT SHE
HAD BEGAN TO DISAPPEAR AND
THIS WAS LIKE A SIGN THAT
THE GOD OF JESUS CHRIST
WOULD BE HER SAVIOR. AND
THE 300 MILLION GODS AND
SHE COULD HAVE CHOSEN ANY
ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY
WERE ALL SILENT. AND THAT
WAS THE CHANGE IT WAS AT
THIS CONVERSION AND THEN
THIS HOPE, THAT TURNED
HER, THIS MADE HER A
GREAT ENTREPRENEUR.
>>SHARRON: SINCE YOU ARE
HERE, EVIDENTLY, SHE HAD A
BABY. THAT WOULD BE YOUR
MAMA.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW
SHE WOULD BE SO OBSERVANT.
>> GUEST: I THINK,
CHARLES PRAYED FOR HER TO
LIFT THE CURSE.
>>HERMAN: AND THEN SHE
WAS HEALED, AND SHE WAS,
SHE HAD BEEN IN
EXCRUCIATING PAIN AND THEN
SHE WAS HEALED.
AND THERE IS THE GRAVE OF
MY FATHER AND HE WAS BORN
AS A RESULT AS THE PRAYERS
OF THIS MAN. AND IN THAT
VILLAGE, I HAVE BEEN
THERE, AND I WAS AT THE
GRAVESITE, AND I TOOK A
PICTURE OF MY FAMILY
MEMBERS. I HAD TO BLINK
BACK OF THE TEARS. HE WAS
A MAN, AND MY FATHER WAS
A RESULT OF THE PRAYERS OF
THE MAN, WHO WAS NOW IN
THE GRAVE. THE MAN DIED,
PERCY, AND HE WAS
THEREFORE 70 YEARS, HE
WAS A YOUNG MAN AND HE
DIED IN INDIA. AND NOT
TOO MANY PEOPLE WERE
CONVERTED BUT MY
GRANDMOTHER WAS ONE OF
THEM. HE WAS FAITHFUL.
AND I FEEL LIKE, AND I
WANTED TO SHOW HIM AROUND,
I WANTED TO SHOW HIM THE
SCHOOL, NOW WE ARE
HELPING 800 KIDS, AND WE
HAVE A HOSPITAL. AND NOW
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE
SMART VILLAGE MOVEMENT SO
LOOK AT WHAT HE HAD DONE.
>>HERMAN: AND TALK ABOUT
THE BUSINESSES OF YOUR
GRANDMOTHER?
>> GUEST: AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT CHARLES DID,
HE WOULD TEACH, AND HE
TAUGHT THEM HOW TO READ
AND WRITE. THE
UNTOUCHABLES, THEY WOULD
BE DENIED EDUCATION. AND
THEY COULD NOT LEARN
BECAUSE THAT WILL BRING
THEM FREEDOM. AND HAD NO
MEDICAL PRIVILEGES.
AND WITH THE LITTLE TOOLS
SHE HAD, AND SHE WAS ABLE
TO BEAT THE SYSTEM, AND
SHE COULD EXPORT OUT OF
INDIA, AND SHE HAD BEEN
AN UNTOUCHABLE SO SHE
COULD NOT WORK IN INDIA,
BUT SHE WOULD SELL THINGS
TO CHARLES PERCY AND HE
WOULD GET IT TO ENGLAND
AND THE PRODUCT WAS SO
GOOD AND SHE HAD MANY
THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS.
AND SHE WOULD EMPLOY WOMEN
IN THE VILLAGE. IN THE
CAST SYSTEM. AND SHE
TAUNT OTHER PEOPLE TO DO
IT. AND THEY COULD BECOME
PROSPEROUS BECAUSE THEY
WOULD BE PAID WITH ENGLISH
POUNDS.
AND SHE WOULD EXPORT FOOD
ALL AROUND THE AREA AND
BANKING AND THE PEOPLE
WOULD TRUST HER WITH THE
MONEY AND SHE WOULD LOAN
THE MONEY OUT. AND SHE
ALSO HAD A BEER COMPANY.
AND SHE DID NOT WANT, AND
SHE DID NOT WANT HER
HUSBAND TO DRINK IT, SO
SHE WOULD BEGIN A
MINISTRY. AND SHE BUILT
THE CHURCH. THE
PERSECUTION WAS VERY
INTENSE. AND WHEN YOU
WILL READ MY BOOK.
>>HERMAN: YOU HAVE GOT TO
READ THE BOOK, AND YOU
KNOW YOU MUST START AND
FINISH IT.
>> GUEST: AND THE HOUSE
WAS KICKED DOWN MANY TIMES
AND THEY WOULD BUILD IT
BACK, AND SHE BECAME THE
FIRST MISSIONARY MIDWIFE
FOR THE PEOPLE. AND SHE
HELPED EVERY BABY AND THAT
VILLAGE. AND SHE WOULD
GIVE THE BABIES NAMES.
AND SHE DONATED A SCHOOL,
BUT IT SERVED A PURPOSE
AND IT WAS BASICALLY A MUD
HUT, AND SHE TAUNT OTHERS
TO READ AND WRITE. AND
NOW SHE HAS 800 KIDS.
>>HERMAN: AND NOW YOU'RE
ON THE TV, AND SEEN BY
MILLIONS, AND HOW MANY
DEGREES DO YOU HAVE?
>> GUEST: AND WELL, I
HAVE MANY DEGREES.
AND THEY ARE NOT REALLY
NOTEWORTHY.
>>HERMAN: AND YES, AND
YOU WOULD BE AN
ENTREPRENEUR?
>> GUEST: AND YES, I WAS
IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY
FOR MANY YEARS.
>>HERMAN: AND HOW DID YOU
GET TO THAT LEVEL?
>> GUEST: THAT WOULD BE
REMARKABLE AND WHEN I
FIRST CAME TO AMERICA I
WAS 16, AND I HAD MY
BIRTHDAY AND I WENT TO A
LITTLE SCHOOL, WHERE I
COULD LEARN TO READ AND DO
MATHEMATICS. AND I WAS
EMBARRASSED AND I COULD
NOT GO TO A CLASS HERE
BUT I CAME HERE WHEN I WAS
17. I DECIDED I WANTED TO
GO TO COLLEGE. AND THEY
SAID, I HAD TO HAVE THE
TRANSFERS, BUT SOMEHOW,
THERE WAS SOME
PROBATIONARY TIME, IT
TOOK ME MANY YEARS TO GET
THROUGH COLLEGE.
>>HERMAN: BUT GOD GAVE
YOU A PHENOMENAL MIND.
>> GUEST: I'M BELIEVE
THAT WE THE GRACE OF GOD
AND THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE
AND THE STORY OF THE
FAMILY, AND YOU KNOW, AND
WE HAD NO STRATEGIES OR
ROADMAP, WE SIMPLY SAID
YES TO GOD.
>>HERMAN: AND CHOSEN
BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF
THE WORLD AND CAN YOU
IMAGINE? GOD KNEW IT ALL.
IMAGINE IT AND THE
MISSIONARY REACHING FOR
YOU. AND WHEN YOU WOULD
GET THE BOOK YOU WILL SEE
THAT HAND. AND YOU WILL
KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN
INDIA AND THE MISSIONARIES
AND GOING DOWN AND
PULLING HER OUT.
>> GUEST: AND WHEN HE
LEFT ENGLAND, HE DID NOT
COME BACK, AND HE WAS
ENGAGED TO A LOVELY
ENGLISH WOMAN. AND THE
MOTHER-IN-LAW SAID, YOU
CANNOT TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO
INDIA, HE DIED AS A
SINGLE MAN SO HE MADE A
TREMENDOUS SACRIFICE AND
THE FAMILY WOULD NOT LET
HER FIANCÉ GO. AND WE
WILL HAVE SO MANY
SURPRISES UP IN HEAVEN.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW,
AND WE ARE SAYING, YES,
AND YOU KNOW GOD IS GOING
TO MOVE.
>>SHARRON: AND DO THEY
HAVE THE CLASS SYSTEM
THERE NOW?
>> GUEST: AND YES, IT
TAKES ON DIFFERENT FORMS
AND MOST INDIANS, WHO LIVE
IN THE CITIES, AND THEY
DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG THE
CASTE SYSTEM WOULD BE. AN
70% OF AND YOU WOULD BE
OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS.
IT WOULD STILL BE ALIVE.
BUT YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS WOULD BE HUMAN
NATURE. IT WOULD BE THE
SIN NATURE.
>>SHARRON: ARE THERE MANY
CHRISTIANS WHERE YOU COME
FROM?
>> GUEST: ABOUT MOST OF
THE PEOPLE IN INDIA WHO
ARE CHRISTIANS ARE THE
CHRISTIANS AND THEY HAVE
NO OTHER HOBO CHRIST. /
AND THEY ARE CHRISTIANS.
AND YET THEY ARE BLESSED.
>>HERMAN: AND WHEN YOU
SEE THIS YES, THEY WOULD
BE BLESSED THAT THEY WERE
THE UNTOUCHABLES.
>> GUEST: AND I THINK,
YES, AND THAT WOULD BE THE
SAD SITUATION AND NO
MATTER WHAT WE MIGHT DO
AND YOU KNOW THE NATURE OF
SIN IS STILL THERE, AND
THEY WANT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THOSE WHO DO
NOT HAVE ANYTHING. AND
THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICH
AND THE POOR WOULD WIDEN,
AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE
STARTED THE SMART
VILLAGES, AND THERE ARE
SOME PEOPLE IN INDIA AND
THEY HAVE THE WEALTH AND
THEY HAVE MOST OF THE
WEALTH, IT WOULD BE ABOUT
1% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE
75% OF THE WEALTH.
>>HERMAN: AND WHAT WOULD
YOU MEAN HERE?
>> GUEST: IT WOULD BE THE
REAL ESTATE, THE COMPANIES
AND SO ON AND WHEN YOU
WOULD HAVE LORDSHIP OVER
PEOPLE AND THIS HAPPENS
HERE AND NOT JUST IN
INDIA. AND MOST
GOVERNMENTS ARE POLARIZED.
IT IS THE GAP BETWEEN THE
RICH AND THE POOR, IT IS
WIDENING. AND DESPITE THE
TECHNOLOGY.
>>HERMAN: BUT YOU KNOW,
AND THE PEOPLE WANT TO
GIVE THE PEOPLE EVERYTHING
SO THAT THEY WOULD BE
SUBSERVIENT TO THE
GOVERNMENT, AND THEY
NEVER LEAVE THAT SYSTEM,
EVEN TO THEIR POTENTIAL.
>> GUEST: I THINK, YES,
AND YES, AND WE -- BUT WE
COULD YOU KNOW, USE
CREATIVITY BUT MANY OF
THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN A
CAGE, AND THE
UNTOUCHABLES, LIVE ON THE
RESERVATIONS. AND YOU
KNOW THIS WITH THE LAND
ALLOTTED FOR THEM. AND
THEY WILL WORK AT NIGHT.
AND THIS IS THE
TRADITIONAL WAY IT WOULD
BE DOWN THE THINGS ARE
SOMEWHAT BETTER. BUT NOW
THEY LIVE TOGETHER IN THE
DIFFERENT VILLAGES.
THINGS ARE SLIGHTLY
BETTER. AND THE HEART IS
THERE AND THE ATTITUDE
TOWARDS THESE PEOPLE WOULD
BE THERE. I GO BACK MANY
TIMES I GO BACK VERY
OFTEN. I WOULD GO...
>>HERMAN: AND DO YOU WORK
WITH THE UNTOUCHABLES?
>> GUEST: YES, I WORK
WITH THEM.
>>HERMAN: YOU MUST BE AN
INSPIRATION WHEN THEY SEE
YOU.
>> GUEST: AND I WAS
TEACHING THERE, I WAS
TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING
OF THE SMART CITIES AT
BERKELEY, AND WHEN THE
PRIME MINISTER CAME IN,
HE SAID, YOU NEED A
FRAMEWORK TO DO THIS.
I WANT TO BUILD 100 OF
THE SMART CITIES. AND I
AM TAKING IN THE STUDENTS.
AND HE SAID YOU KNOW,
AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE
LIVING OUT IN THE
VILLAGES. AND MAYBE YOU
COULD HELP ME TO MAKE THE
VILLAGES SMART. AND WHEN
I SAID OKAY, PICK A
VILLAGE, AND HE SAID NOW
YOU DO IT AND WHY DON'T
YOU WORK WITH YOUR
ORIGINAL VILLAGE? AND
THIS IS WHERE THIS IDEA
WAS BORN. AND HE GAVE ME
MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE
THINGS. AND THE VILLAGE,
MAURY, AND THIS WOULD BE
THE ROAD TO MAURY, THESE
WOULD BE THE UNTOUCHABLES
AND WE GIVE THEM YOU KNOW,
ALL OF THE BIG COMPANIES
CAME IN, TO DEVELOP
TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THIS
SMART.
>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, AND
SOLOMON, THIS MAN, HE
WOULD BE BEYOND WHATEVER
YOU WOULD WANT TO MEET.
YOU COULD READ THE BOOK.
AND YOU COULD FIND OUT
ABOUT ALL THE SMART
VILLAGES. IT IS JUST
UNBELIEVABLE. OPEN THE
WORD OF GOD, BECAUSE JESUS
WOULD BE YOUR ANSWER TO
EVERY NEED YOU HAVE, AND
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
BOOK. GOODBYE.
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