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>> Adrienne: GOOD EVENING, I'M 
ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.
ANDREW IS AWAY.
TONIGHT, ANGER IN NEW BRUNSWICK 
OVER A CLUSTER OF NEW COVID-19 
CASES.
>> THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS 
OUTBREAK WERE COMPLETELY 
PREVENTABLE.
>> Adrienne: HOW IT HAPPENED 
SHOWS JUST HOW FRAGILE A 
REOPENING CAN BE.
>>> MORE NURSING STAFF, MORE 
PSWs ON THE FLOOR.
>> Adrienne: WHAT ONTARIO COULD 
DO RIGHT NOW IN ITS LONG-TERM 
CARE HOMES.
>>> ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S 
OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WERE NEVER 
REALLY THOUGHT OF. 
>> Adrienne: STIFF NECKS, SORE 
BACKS WELCOME TO THE SIDE 
EFFECTS OF WORKING FROM HOME.
>>> AND A PRESIDENTIAL SHOT AT 
SOCIAL MEDIA GIANTS. 
>> President Donald Trump: 
NOTHING MORE THAN A POLITICAL 
ACTIVISM GROUP OR POLITICAL 
ACTIVISM. 
>> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP'S MOVE
TO REGULATE IN THE NAME OF FREE 
SPEECH.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>>> FOR MUCH OF THE TIME SINCE 
THE PANDEMIC BEGAN, NEW 
BRUNSWICK HAS BEEN A MODEL OF 
GETTING THINGS RIGHT.
WELL, TONIGHT THE PROVINCE CAN 
PROVIDE ANOTHER LESSON, SHOWING 
JUST HOW FRAGILE A REOPENING CAN
BE.
THERE IS BITTER FRUSTRATION OVER
AN OUTBREAK OF COVID-19 IN THAT 
PROVINCE LINKED TO JUST ONE MAN,
A DOCTOR.
THE PROVINCE HAD BEEN WINNING 
THIS FIGHT WITH NO DEATHS AND 
ALL 120 CASES RESOLVED.
SO SEE HOW THEIR CURVE WAS 
VIRTUALLY FLAT COMPARED TO ALL 
OF CANADA?
BUT NOW JUST DAYS AFTER RULES 
WERE LIFTED, THOUSANDS HAVE LOST
THEIR NEW FREEDOMS.
HARRY FORESTELL SHOWS US WHY.
>> Reporter: WATER BOMBERS NEAR 
THE CITY OF CAMPBELLTON LOAD UP 
TO FIGHT A NEARBY FIRE, BUT 
RESIDENTS HERE ALREADY FEEL 
BURNED.
VIRTUALLY COVID-FREE FOR WEEKS, 
NEW BRUNSWICK FACES A NEW 
OUTBREAK, CENTERED RIGHT HERE.
>> THERE ARE THREE NEW CONFIRMED
CASES OF COVID-19.
>> Reporter: HEALTH OFFICIALS 
HAD WARNED COVID-19 WOULD 
RETURN.
WHAT IS SHOCKING IS THAT A 
DOCTOR CAUSED THIS OUTBREAK, 
SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN 
BETTER. 
>> THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS 
OUTBREAK WERE COMPLETELY 
PREVENTABLE AND HAPPENED IN 
SPITE OF ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO 
KEEP THE VIRUS AT BAY.
>> Reporter: THE DOCTOR, FROM 
THE LOCAL HOSPITAL, CROSSED INTO
NEIGHBOURING QUEBEC ON PERSONAL 
BUSINESS.
HE RETURNED WITH COVID-19.
DIDN'T SELF-ISOLATE FOR THE 
REQUIRED TWO WEEKS AND INSTEAD 
WENT STRAIGHT BACK TO TREATING 
PATIENTS.
AT LEAST 150 PEOPLE MAY HAVE 
BEEN EXPOSED.
>> THAT'S NOT RIGHT WHAT HE DID 
THERE.
HALF OF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE 
INFECTED WITH THAT THERE. 
>> Reporter: NEW BRUNSWICKERS 
HAVE BEEN REVELLING IN THEIR 
STATUS AS THE PROVINCE THAT BEAT
COVID-19.
NO CONTAGION HAUNTING NURSING 
HOME CORRIDORS, NO DEATHS.
A HARD-WON VICTORY, NOW PUT AT 
RISK.
>> ANY HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL 
THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAVELLED 
OUTSIDE THE PROVINCE, AND IF 
THAT IS THE CASE AND DID NOT 
COME BACK AND SELF-ISOLATED, 
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT IS OF 
GREAT CONCERN AND 
DISAPPOINTMENT.
>> Reporter: CBC ISN'T 
IDENTIFYING THE DOCTOR OUT OF 
CONCERN FOR HIS SAFETY.
BUT PREMIER BLAINE HIGGS MADE 
CLEAR TODAY THERE WILL BE 
CONSEQUENCES.
>> Premier Blaine Higgs: 
INFORMATIONS HAVE BEEN PASSED 
ALONG TO THE RCMP TO DETERMINE 
EXACTLY WHAT TOOK PLACE AND 
WHETHER CHARGES ARE WARRANTED.
>> Reporter: PEOPLE HERE WERE 
JUST BEGINNING TO ENJOY THE 
LIFTING OF COVID RESTRICTIONS.
NOW IT'S BACK TO FAMILY BUBBLING
AND CLOSING BUSINESSES THAT HAD 
ONLY JUST REOPENED.
HARRY FORESTELL, CBC NEWS, 
FREDERICTON.
>> Adrienne: OFFICIALS IN 
NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR ARE 
HOPING TO AVOID A NEW OUTBREAK 
THEMSELVES AS THE PROVINCE DEALS
WITH ITS FIRST NEW COVID CASE IN
MORE THAN TWO WEEKS.
HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY IT INVOLVES
A MAN WHO'S IN HIS 40S WHO LIVES
IN THE PROVINCE'S EASTERN HEALTH
REGION, THAT INCLUDES 
ST. JOHN'S.
THE CASE IS SAID TO BE 
TRAVEL-RELATED, BUT IT'S NOT YET
CLEAR FROM WHERE.
CONTACT TRACING IS NOW UNDER 
WAY.
>>> ONTARIO'S PREMIER IS 
PROMISING ACTION IN RESPONSE TO 
TUESDAY'S SCATHING MILITARY 
REPORT ON HORRIFIC CONDITIONS AT
FIVE LONG-TERM CARE HOMES.
A FULL FIX WILL BE A MONUMENTAL 
TASK, BUT WHAT COULD BE DONE 
RIGHT NOW TO HELP A SYSTEM 
BROKEN LONG BEFORE COVID-19?
DAVID COMMON HAS A LOOK.
>> HELP.
>> Reporter: LISTEN CAREFULLY.
>> HELP. 
>> Reporter: A CARE HOME 
RESIDENT IS DYING, HER BREATHING
TUBE MAY BE CLOGGED, OFTEN 
OVERWHELMED STAFF NOT AROUND.
>> SHE DIED ALONE STRUGGLING.
>> Reporter: MARIE HARRIS WAS 
HER DAUGHTER, AND A YEAR AGO 
TOLD "CBC MARKETPLACE" ABOUT THE
MANY DEFICIENCIES.
>> THERE SHOULD BE LEGISLATION 
THAT HAS TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO 
TAKE CARE OF OUR LOVED ONES, 
MORE NURSING STAFF, MORE PSWS ON
THE FLOOR.
>> THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT HAS AN
ENORMOUS TASK. 
>> Reporter: BUT THE TASKS ARE 
CLEAR FOR ALEX VAN KRALINGEN WHO
SERVED AS A LAWYER ON A RECENT 
PUBLIC INQUIRY EXAMINING 
LONG-TERM CARE.
IT, ALONG WITH WORKERS, 
ACADEMICS AND FAMILIES POINT TO 
A NEED FOR MINIMUM STAFFING 
RATIOS IN NURSING HOMES.
THAT WOULD MEAN MORE STAFF AND 
LIKELY HIGHER PAY TO ATTRACT, 
RETAIN AND OFFER BETTER TRAINING
TO PEOPLE IN AN INDUSTRY FACING 
A YEAR'S-LONG STAFFING CRISIS.
>> IT'S MADE ME VERY SAD THAT 
WE'VE HAD TO COME TO THIS AWFUL 
MOMENT TO MAKE THESE SORTS OF 
CHANGES WHEN PEOPLE ARE RINGING 
THE BELL FOR SO LONG ABOUT 
THE PROBLEMS IN THE SYSTEM.
>> Reporter: THEN THERE ARE THE 
HUNDREDS OF OLDER BUILDINGS.
MANY OF THE BEDS INSIDE ONLY 
MEET THE STANDARDS FROM NEARLY 
50 YEARS AGO.
IT OFTEN MEANS MULTIPLE 
RESIDENTS ARE CRAMMED INTO ONE 
ROOM, A NIGHTMARE FOR INFECTION 
CONTROL.
>> Premier Doug Ford: WE NEED 
THEIR SUPPORT IF WE WANT TO 
CHANGE THE SYSTEM, A BROKEN 
SYSTEM.
>> Reporter: DOUG FORD CAME TO 
POWER ON A PROMISE TO CUT 
SPENDING.
HE'S NOW ASKING OTTAWA TO FOOT 
THE ENORMOUS REPAIR BILL.
LONG-TERM CARE WAS IN CRISIS 
LONG BEFORE COVID, AND THE 
QUESTION IS WHAT GOVERNMENTS AND
TAXPAYERS WILL DO NOW TO FIX IT.
DAVID COMMON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: NOW WHILE ONTARIO 
AND QUEBEC, FOR THAT MATTER, 
STRUGGLE TO GET THEIR SITUATIONS
UNDER CONTROL, THEY MIGHT TAKE A
LOOK AT HOW B.C. HANDLED THINGS.
ASHLEY BURKE LOOKS AT ITS EARLY 
AND DECISIVE ACTIONS.
>> Reporter: DEBBY COTE SAYS HER
MOTHER DESERVED BETTER.
THE 73-YEAR-OLD DIED FROM 
COVID-19 AFTER A MASSIVE 
OUTBREAK HIT HER LONG-TERM CARE 
HOME.
>> SHE COULD BARELY BREATHE.
WE JUST WORRIED AND WORRIED AND 
WORRIED EVERY DAY, MY SISTER AND
I. 
>> Reporter: WHAT HAPPENED THERE
IS PART OF A GRIM CANADIAN 
COMPARISON.
ONTARIO HOMES HAVE SEEN 15 TIMES
MORE DEATHS THAN THOSE IN 
BRITISH COLUMBIA.
>> THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR 
GOVERNMENT TAKING VERY DECISIVE 
ACTION IMMEDIATELY AND HAVING A 
VERY COORDINATED APPROACH.
>> Reporter: THAT APPROACH 
KICKED IN SHORTLY AFTER THE 
PROVINCE REPORTED ITS FIRST CASE
IN A LONG-TERM CARE HOME IN 
EARLY MARCH.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, OF 
COURSE, EMOTIONAL DAYS AND 
DIFFICULT DAYS WITH COVID-19 FOR
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BUT THAT WAS A DAY THAT I'LL 
NEVER FORGET.
>> Reporter: HEALTH OFFICIALS 
QUICKLY TOOK CONTROL.
THEY HAD ONE ORGANIZATION 
DISTRIBUTE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE 
EQUIPMENT TO ALL THE HOMES.
THEY MADE SURE STAFF WERE 
ASSIGNED TO ONE FACILITY ONLY, 
NOT WORKING AT MULTIPLE 
LOCATIONS.
THEN, THEY INCREASED THE PAY.
>> IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WERE 
CHOOSING BETWEEN FACILITIES WITH
DIFFERENT RATES OF PAY, THE ONES
WITH THE LOWER RATES OF PAY 
WOULD HAVE INEVITABLY HAD NO 
WORKERS UNDER THOSE 
CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH DIDN'T MAKE
ANY SENSE. 
>> Reporter: ONTARIO HAS TRIED 
SOME OF THIS, BUT THE UNION SAID
IT WAS TOO SLOW, INCLUDING THE 
PAY INCREASE. 
>> IT HAS NOT STARTED FLOWING IN
THE VAST MAJORITY OF FACILITIES 
IN ONTARIO. 
>> SHE'S GOING TO LOVE THIS 
TREE.
>> Reporter: SADLY, IT'S ALL TOO
LATE FOR CÔTÉ'S MOTHER.
SHE'S NOW PLANTING A LILAC TREE 
TO SCATTER HER ASHES NEARBY.
SHE WANTS TO BE CLOSE AFTER 
HAVING TO STAY SO FAR AWAY WHEN 
HER MOTHER NEEDED HER MOST.
ASHLEY BURKE, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
>> Adrienne: NOW CENTRAL CANADA 
IS STILL THE EPICENTRE OF THE 
CANADIAN OUTBREAK, AND TODAY'S 
NUMBERS PROVE THAT ONCE AGAIN.
QUEBEC HAS REPORTED 563 NEW 
CASES TODAY.
THAT'S BEEN RELATIVELY 
CONSISTENT OVER THE PAST FEW 
DAYS.
WHILE ONTARIO HAS REPORTED 383, 
AN UPTICK AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS
BELOW 300.
THOSE TWO PROVINCES REPRESENT 
THE BULK OF CANADA'S NEARLY 
90,000 CONFIRMED CASES.
THOSE BIG NUMBERS ARE UPDATED 
EVERY DAY, BUT AS JONATHAN 
GATEHOUSE SHOWS US, ONTARIO IS 
DRAWING CRITICISM FOR SOME 
EXTRAORDINARY GAPS IN ITS 
PANDEMIC DATA THAT KEEPS HEALTH 
OFFICIALS FLYING BLIND.
>> Reporter: THE FEARS OF 
COVID-19 EASE IN ONTARIO, SO DO 
THE PUBLIC'S PRECAUTIONS.
THE PROBLEM SOME EXPERTS BLAME 
ON A LACK OF GOVERNMENT 
INFORMATION.
>> I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT 
FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO STILL
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY NEED TO 
PHYSICALLY DISTANCE AND ISOLATE 
THEMSELVES. 
>> Reporter: SO WHAT'S MISSING?
DETAILS ON THINGS LIKE TESTING, 
TRACING, P.P.E. AVAILABILITY, 
AND THE CONDITIONS THAT HELP 
SPREAD THE DISEASE.
>> THE PROVINCE'S UNWILLINGNESS 
AND INABILITY TO COLLECT THE 
APPROPRIATE DATA AND IN TURN 
SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AND 
PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS IS HINDERING
OUR RESPONSE TO COVID-19. 
>> Reporter: IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT
THE GOVERNMENT IS UNWILLING OR 
SIMPLY UNABLE TO BE MORE 
TRANSPARENT.
ONTARIO'S 34 HEALTH UNITS SEND 
SWABS ALL OVER THE PROVINCE FOR 
PROCESSING.
RESULTS COULD COME BACK VIA 
COMPUTER, PHONE, FAX, OR EVEN 
CANADA POST.
SOME HEALTH REGIONS TELL CBC 
NEWS EVEN THEY DON'T KNOW HOW 
MANY TESTS THEY HAVE PERFORMED.
JUST HOW MANY POSITIVE RESULTS 
HAVE COME BACK.
OF THE SEVEN UNITS WITH THE MOST
CASES, ONLY THREE ARE SHARING 
DAILY TEST NUMBERS PUBLICLY. 
>> HAVING DATA IS REALLY 
IMPORTANT FOR ALL ASPECTS OF 
TACKLING COVID-19.
IT LETS US ANTICIPATE PROBLEMS 
AND PLAN FOR THEM.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT 
INFORMATION, WE DON'T HAVE AN 
UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE OUR BLIND
SPOTS ARE.
>> Reporter: IT'S A SHARP 
CONTRAST TO PROVINCES LIKE B.C. 
AND ALBERTA THAT POST DAILY 
REGIONAL TESTING NUMBERS.
OR QUEBEC, WHICH REVEALS LOCAL 
HOTSPOTS.
AND FINALLY, THERE'S NEW YORK 
CITY, PERHAPS THE HARDEST-HIT 
PLACE IN THE WORLD, WHICH MAKES 
ALL OF ITS COVID INFORMATION 
PUBLIC.
A MODEL OF TRANSPARENCY AFTER 
ALL THE WORST FEARS CAME TRUE.
JONATHAN GATEHOUSE, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: NOW MORE THAN THREE
QUARTERS OF ONTARIO'S CASES ARE 
IN THE GREATER TORONTO AREA.
MANY OF THOSE IN TORONTO PROPER,
BUT UNTIL YESTERDAY WE DIDN'T 
KNOW WHERE IN THE CITY THOSE 
CASES WERE BEING DETECTED.
MUNICIPAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES 
UNVEILED DETAILED GEOGRAPHIC 
INFORMATION SHOWING WHICH 
NEIGHBOURHOODS HAVE BEEN MOST 
AFFECTED BY THE VIRUS.
THERE ARE CLEAR HOTSPOTS, AND 
THEIR LOCATIONS COULD TELL US A 
GREAT DEAL ABOUT HOW THIS VIRUS 
WORKS AND WHO IS MOST AT RISK.
THOMAS DAIGLE LOOKS AT ONE 
PARTICULAR AREA.
>> Reporter: NORTH 
ST. JAMESTOWN, A NEIGHBOURHOOD 
JUST A SHORT DRIVE FROM DOWNTOWN
TORONTO, IT'S LINED WITH 
HIGH-RISE APARTMENT BUILDINGS 
AND NOW STRICKEN WITH MORE 
CORONAVIRUS CASES THAN OTHER 
NEARBY COMMUNITIES.
>> VERY SAD BECAUSE I KNOW WE 
HAVE A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE 
WHO LIVE AROUND HERE AS WELL AS 
ELDERLY PEOPLE.
>> THEY SHOULD GIVE OUT MASKS.
SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY 
IT. 
>> Reporter: THE NEIGHBOURHOOD 
HAS 130 KNOWN COVID-19 
INFECTIONS.
COMPARE THAT TO JUST 32 IN THE 
NEXT DISTRICT OVER.
>> THEY ARE MIXING IN HALLWAYS, 
MIXING IN ELEVATORS, MIXING ON 
THE WAY OUT OF THE BUILDING AND 
THEN MIXING AT HOME.
SO -- AND THESE ARE BASICALLY 
UNAVOIDABLE FACTORS.
>> Reporter: THE POPULATION 
DENSITY IN NEARBY CABBAGETOWN IS
LOWER.
THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME, 
HIGHER.
BOTH ARE FACTORS THOUGHT TO 
INFLUENCE WHO'S AT RISK.
NOW TORONTO PUBLIC HEALTH WILL 
USE THE DATA TO HELP GROUPS 
HARDEST HIT.
>> IT MIGHT MEAN HAVING A MOBILE
TESTING SITE AVAILABLE AT SOME 
OF THESE PLACES, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> Reporter: OR IT MIGHT MEAN 
SOMETHING LIKE WHAT THIS GROUP 
DOES, HANDING OUT SUPPLIES TO 
PEOPLE IN NEED, KITS THAT NOW 
INCLUDE MASKS TO PROTECT AGAINST
THE VIRUS.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, 
WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.
NO, WE ARE NOT ALL IN THE SAME 
BOAT.
COVID HAS ATTACKED 
DISPROPORTIONATELY THE MORE 
VULNERABLE AMONG US.
>> Reporter: CASE IN POINT, ALL 
THOSE OUTBREAKS IN LONG-TERM 
CARE FACILITIES.
NORTH ST. JAMESTOWN IS HOME TO 
THIS ONE WHERE THE VIRUS STRUCK 
HARD, SO THAT MIGHT SKEW THE 
NUMBERS SLIGHTLY.
STILL, THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE 
ANSWERS ABOUT WHY SO MANY AROUND
HERE ARE FALLING ILL.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, 
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: POLICE IN TORONTO 
HAVE RELEASED SOME SHOCKING 
SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OF A BRAZEN 
SHOOTOUT THAT LEFT A 21-YEAR-OLD
MAN DEAD ON TUESDAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE MOMENT THE 
GUNFIGHT BEGINS.
IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL, A 
SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY RUNNING SCARED 
AS THE BULLETS JUST MISS HIM.
MOMENTS LATER, HIS MOTHER, 
SCRAMBLING TO GET HIM TO SAFETY.
>> WHEN INDIVIDUALS DECIDE TO 
COME DOWNTOWN TO THE LARGEST 
CITY IN THE COUNTRY AND HAVE NO 
CARE IN THE WORLD IN KILLING 
ANYONE IN THEIR WAY, IT'S BEYOND
COMPREHENSION.
>> Adrienne: DIMARJIO JENKINS, A
RISING RAP STAR KNOWN AS HOUDINI
WAS BELIEVED TO BE TARGETED.
TWO OTHERS WERE SHOT BUT ARE 
EXPECTED TO RECOVER.
>>> THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS
TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 
YESTERDAY IN THE MOMENT AFTER 
POLICE WERE CALLED TO A TORONTO 
APARTMENT BUILDING AND BEFORE A 
WOMAN INSIDE PLUNGED TO HER 
DEATH FROM A BALCONY.
ELLEN MAURO WITH WHAT HER FAMILY
IS SAYING.
>> THE MOTHER AND BROTHER HEARD 
COMMOTION IN THE APARTMENT AND 
THEN HEARD REGIS CRY OUT MOM 
HELP, MOM HELP, MOM HELP. 
>> Reporter: A MOTHER'S 
HEARTBREAK.
A TRAGEDY THAT BEGAN WHEN SHE 
CALLED THE POLICE FOR HELP. 
>> MY DAUGHTER ENDED UP DEAD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
>> Reporter: REGIS 
KORCHINSKI-PAQUET HAD
EPILEPSY AND EXPERIENCED A 
SEIZURE EARLIER IN THE DAY, SAID
HER FAMILY, CAUSING HER MENTAL 
HEALTH DISTRESS AND CONFLICT IN 
THEIR APARTMENT.
POLICE WERE CALLED TO HELP 
DE-ESCALATE.
THE FAMILY SAYS THE 29-YEAR-OLD 
WAS ALONE IN THE UNIT WITH 
OFFICERS WHEN SHE PLUNGED TO HER
DEATH FROM A 24TH FLOOR BALCONY.
THE CASE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO 
ONTARIO'S SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
UNIT, A POLICE WATCHDOG AGENCY.
>> THIS IS MY SISTER.
SHE MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.
WE NEED TO FIND JUSTICE FOR HER.
>> Reporter: TORONTO'S POLICE 
CHIEF EXPRESSED CONDOLENCES 
AND -- HIS FORCE. 
>> I SUPPORT MY MEN AND WOMEN.
BASED ON THE LIMITED INFORMATION
THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND I DO 
HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS AN 
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THE ABSOLUTE
TRUTH, AND I WILL TELL YOU, I 
STAND FOR TRANSPARENCY AND 
ACCOUNTABILITY 100%.
>> Reporter: A CBC NEWS 
INVESTIGATION TWO YEARS AGO 
FOUND NEARLY HALF OF CANADIANS 
WHO DIED IN ENCOUNTERS WITH 
POLICE SINCE THE YEAR 2000 WERE 
MENTALLY DISTRESSED.
KORCHINSKI-PAQUET'S LOVED ONES 
BELIEVE RACE WAS A FACTOR TOO.
>> I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT THIS 
WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN A 
DIFFERENT AREA AND WITH A 
DIFFERENT RACE.
I WOKE UP THIS MORNING SAYING 
SHE SHOULDN'T BE DEAD.
>> Reporter: PASTOR ROY DAWSON 
SAYS POLICE NEED TO FIX BROKEN 
TRUST.
>> SHE HAD A SMILE THAT LIT UP A
ROOM.
SHE HAD A HEART THAT WAS OF 
GOLD, MAN.
SHE WAS SUCH A LOVING PERSON.
>> Reporter: ONE WHO LEAVES 
BEHIND A FAMILY IN UNIMAGINABLE 
PAIN.
ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: THERE ARE GROWING 
CALLS FOR POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY 
AND CHARGES IN MINNEAPOLIS.
IT'S BEEN SPARKED BY THE DEATH 
OF A BLACK MAN NAMED GEORGE 
FLOYD AND VIDEO SHOWING HIS 
BRUTAL TREATMENT UPON ARREST.
THAT HAS LED TO THIS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, TENSIONS HIGH IN
THAT CITY TONIGHT.
BUILDINGS ON FIRE.
POLICE AND PROTESTERS ARE FACING
OFF FOR A THIRD STRAIGHT NIGHT.
THE RESULTS OF LAST NIGHT'S 
VIOLENCE, UTTER DESTRUCTION, AND
AS PAUL HUNTER SHOWS US, THE 
ANGER THERE, THE FRUSTRATION 
RUNS SO MUCH DEEPER.
>> Reporter: MINNEAPOLIS TODAY 
WITH ITS CHARRED REMNANTS OF 
LAST NIGHT'S RIOTING, THE FURY 
EVIDENT AT EVERY CORNER.
OVERNIGHT, DEMONSTRATORS HAD 
RAMPAGED.
THE VIOLENCE, THE ANGER AND THE 
FLAMES, AT TIMES WELL OUT OF 
CONTROL, CONTINUED UNTIL DAWN.
AND THROUGHOUT, LOOTING WAS 
EQUALLY RAMPANT.
IT'S ALL BECOME SOBERINGLY 
FAMILIAR IN THIS COUNTRY, SO TOO
THE ACTION THAT SPARKED IT.
THIS BODY CAM VIDEO AND 
SEPARATELY THIS SECURITY VIDEO 
SHOW SOME OF THE LAST FEW 
MINUTES OF GEORGE FLOYD'S LIFE, 
STOPPED ON SUSPICION OF PASSING 
COUNTERFEIT MONEY, WHAT SEEMS A 
STRAIGHTFORWARD ARREST SOMEHOW 
DEVOLVES INTO THIS.
>> I CAN'T BREATHE!
YOUR KNEE'S ON MY NECK.
>> Reporter: EXCRUCIATING TO 
WATCH, IT'S FLOYD NOW ON THE 
GROUND BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE, 
HANDCUFFED, GASPING FOR AIR, 
POLICE OFFICER'S KNEE ON HIS 
NECK WHILE OTHERS DO NOTHING.
>> I'M NEVER GOING TO GET MY 
BROTHER BACK. 
>> Reporter: FLOYD'S BROTHER 
SAID TODAY HE'S TIRED OF SEEING 
BLACK MEN DIE. 
>> THEY EXECUTED MY BROTHER IN 
BROAD DAYLIGHT. 
>> Reporter: THE OFFICERS 
INVOLVED HAVE ALL BEEN FIRED.
THE CITY'S MAYOR WANTS THEM 
CHARGED AS THE FRUSTRATION 
CONTINUES.
>> THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE 
ANGER IN MINNEAPOLIS IS BECAUSE 
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.
>> Reporter: CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER
AL SHARPTON TODAY EMPHASIZED THE
RIOTING IN MINNEAPOLIS ISN'T THE
ISSUE.
>> THE VIOLENCE I'M ADDRESSING 
IS HOW A MAN COULD HOLD A MAN 
DOWN WITH A KNEE ON HIS NECK FOR
NINE MINUTES.
THAT'S WHEN THE VIOLENCE 
STARTED.
>> Reporter: SEEKING ANSWERS AND
JUSTICE IN A COUNTRY GRAPPLING 
YET AGAIN WITH ITS SEEMINGLY 
FOREVER RACIAL DIVIDE.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, 
WASHINGTON.
>> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP HAS 
RETALIATED AGAINST TWITTER DAYS 
AFTER IT FLAGGED ONE OF HIS 
TWEETS WITH A FACT CHECK.
HE HAS IMPOSED AN EXECUTIVE 
ORDER THAT THREATENS THE LEGAL 
PROTECTIONS UNDER WHICH SOCIAL 
MEDIA COMPANIES OPERATE.
WELL, TONIGHT TWITTER IS CALLING
IT REACTIONARY AND POLITICIZED.
KATIE SIMPSON HAS THE DETAILS.
>> President Donald Trump: WE 
ARE HERE TODAY TO DEFEND FREE 
SPEECH FROM ONE OF THE GREATEST 
DANGERS IT HAS FACED IN AMERICAN
HISTORY. 
>> Reporter: THE GRAVE DANGER 
THE U.S. PRESIDENT SEES IS AN 
ANTI-CONSERVATIVE BIAS ON SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS LIKE TWITTER AND
FACEBOOK.
AND IT'S WHY TODAY'S EXECUTIVE 
ORDER IS AIMED AT MAKING THEM 
LIABLE FOR HOW THEY REGULATE 
CONTENT AND WHAT USERS POST 
>> President Donald Trump: WHAT 
THEY CHOOSE TO FACT CHECK AND 
WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE OR 
EVEN PROMOTE IS NOTHING MORE 
THAN A POLITICAL ACTIVISM GROUP 
OR POLITICAL ACTIVISM.
>> Reporter: TRUMP IS FRUSTRATED
WITH TWITTER IN PARTICULAR AFTER
THE PLATFORM SLAPPED A FACT 
CHECK THIS WEEK ON HIS 
MISLEADING TWEETS ABOUT VOTER 
FRAUD, AND THAT'S WHY HE WANTS 
THESE TECH GIANTS TO FACE THE 
SAME SCRUTINY AS TRADITIONAL 
PUBLISHERS.
>> WHEN TWITTER AND OTHER 
COMPANIES ACT IN A WAY WHERE 
THEY ARE LABELLING TWEETS OR 
LABELLING CONTENT, THAT THEY ARE
ACTING IN AN EDITORIAL MANNER 
THAT MAKES THEM PUBLISHERS, AND 
SO THEY LOSE THAT IMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: THE ORDER WILL 
LIKELY BE CHALLENGED IN COURT, 
AND EXPERTS QUESTION WHETHER THE
PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO 
MAKE THIS CHANGE.
THOUGH EARLY REACTION IS MIXED.
>> I JUST BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT 
FACEBOOK SHOULDN'T BE THE 
ARBITER OF TRUTH OF EVERYTHING 
THAT PEOPLE SAY ONLINE.
>> Reporter: TRUMP'S OPPONENTS 
SAY THIS IS A DEFLECTION TACTIC 
FROM THE 100,000 AMERICANS DEAD 
BY COVID AND 40 MILLION MORE OUT
OF WORK.
>> BUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS 
DOING IS SILLY.
IT'S SILLY.
LET'S SAY THIS.
IT'S A DISTRACTION.
>> Reporter: THIS ISSUE IS 
EXPECTED TO BECOME EVEN MORE 
FRAUGHT AS THE U.S. INCHES 
CLOSER TO ELECTION DAY, WITH 
CORONAVIRUS PUTTING TRADITIONAL 
CAMPAIGNING ON HOLD, THE USE OF 
DIGITAL SITES HAS NEVER BEEN 
MORE IMPORTANT.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, 
WASHINGTON.
>> Adrienne: SO NOW LET'S CIRCLE
BACK TO COVID-19 AND A GLOBAL 
TOUR OF THE PANDEMIC.
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES EDGED 
CLOSER TO SIX MILLION, NEARLY 
360,000 LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST.
THE U.S. HAS BEEN THE WORST HIT,
OVER 101,000 HAVE DIED THERE 
THAT IS FOLLOWED BY THE U.K. 
WITH 37,000 DEATHS.
ITALY HAS LOST 33,000.
AT ITS PEAK, ALMOST A THOUSAND 
PEOPLE A DAY WERE DYING THERE, 
BUT NOW IT'S FEWER THAN A 
HUNDRED A DAY.
AND IN LESS THAN A WEEK, THE 
COUNTRY WILL REOPEN ITS NATIONAL
BORDERS AND ALLOW FREE TRAVEL.
AS MEGAN WILLIAMS SHOWS US, THAT
HAS TENSIONS RUNNING HIGH.
>> Reporter: LIFE RETURNS TO THE
CENTRAL PIAZZA HERE.
TWO MONTHS AGO AT THE EPICENTRE 
OF ITALY'S CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK.
BUT REMINDERS THAT ITALY IS NOT 
OUT OF THE WOODS YET STILL RING 
THROUGH THE AIR.
ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BE 
TAKEN TO THIS HOSPITAL FROM HIS 
HOME NEARBY WAS THIS MAN.
>> [Speaking Foreign Language]
>> Reporter: HE TOUCHES THE 
REMINDER OF HIS TWO WEEKS ON A 
VENTILATOR.
BUT EVEN HE SAYS ITALY NEEDS TO 
RISK RELAUNCHING ITS ECONOMY.
WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS EXPLODED IN
ITALY IN LATE FEBRUARY, IT 
EXPLODED IN NORTHERN ITALY.
CITIES IN THE INDUSTRIAL 
HEARTLAND OF ITALY, AN AREA THAT
PRODUCES EVERYTHING FROM TRUCKS,
CAR PARTS AND WEAPONS TO 
APPAREL, SHOES, BEER AND WINE.
AND IT'S THE OUTDOOR CONSUMPTION
OF BEER AND WINE BY TIGHT 
CLUSTERS OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT 
LED TO THE RELEASE OF THIS AD, 
WARNING ONE SMALL SLIP AND THE 
WHOLE COUNTRY COULD GRIND TO A 
HALT.
>> IF WE DIDN'T TAKE THE 
APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS, THEN WE
ARE GOING BACK TO SQUARE ONE. 
>> Reporter: BUT THIS COVID DATA
EXPERT SAYS THE VIRUS IS 
SPREADING IN PLACES MOST PEOPLE 
DON'T EXPECT.
>> MANY OF US STILL THINK THAT 
MOST OF IT ARE WITHIN FAMILIES 
OR WITHIN, YOU KNOW, PLACES FOR 
OLD PEOPLE.
THE TRUTH IS MOST OF IT DURING 
FEBRUARY AND MARCH WAS TAKING 
PLACE AT PLACES OF WORK THAT DID
NOT CLOSE DOWN, FACTORIES, 
ESPECIALLY. 
>> Reporter: AND WITH ITALY 
RETURNING TO WORK, TESTING IS 
CRUCIAL.
HE SAYS WITHOUT AGGRESSIVE 
WIDESPREAD TESTING AND TRACKING,
THE LIFE THAT HAS RETURNED TO 
ITALY'S STREETS AND PIAZZAS 
COULD ONCE AGAIN DISAPPEAR.
MEGAN WILLIAMS, CBC NEWS.
>> Adrienne: ON THE HEELS OF 
FRESH CRITICISM FROM THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT, JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAS 
COMMENTED ON YESTERDAY'S COURT 
RULING AGAINST MENG WANZHOU.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
HAVE AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIAL 
SYSTEM THAT HAS RENDERED A 
JUDGMENT WITHOUT ANY POLITICAL 
INTERFERENCE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FURTHER 
LEGAL STEPS AVAILABLE TO 
MS. MENG THAT SHE WILL 
UNDOUBTEDLY AVAIL HERSELF OF.
>> Adrienne: AFTER THE RULING 
AGAINST THE HUAWEI CFO, CHINA'S 
FOREIGN MINISTRY WARNED ITS 
RELATIONSHIP WITH OTTAWA COULD 
FACE WHAT IT CALLS CONTINUOUS 
HARM.
>>> IF YOUR DINING ROOM HAS 
TURNED INTO YOUR OFFICE, YOU 
MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH 
WORK-FROM-HOME SYNDROME.
>> YOU'RE WORKING AT YOUR 
KITCHEN TABLE, AND IT'S PUTTING 
THE BODY INTO AWKWARD PROLONGED 
POSITIONS. 
>> Adrienne: UP NEXT, TIPS FOR 
STAYING INJURY FREE.
>>> ROSIE AND THE CREW TAKE ON 
THE POLITICAL RESPONSE TO THOSE 
DAMNING MILITARY REPORTS ABOUT 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES.
SHOULD OTTAWA STEP IN?
>>> AND KEEPING PEOPLE SMILING 
WITH A JOKE HOTLINE.
THE CALGARY HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT 
THAT'S EARNED SOME SERIOUS 
CELEBRITY ATTENTION.
WE'RE BACK 
>> Adrienne: WHETHER IT IS 
FELINE INTERFERENCE OR CANINE 
SUPERVISION, OUR FOUR-LEGGED 
FRIENDS ARE CERTAINLY ENJOYING 
THIS WORK-FROM-HOME THING.
AND WHILE THEY ARE CERTAINLY A 
BENEFIT OF WORKING AT THE DINING
ROOM TABLE, THERE ARE SOME 
DRAWBACKS TOO.
SO MANY OF US FLED OUR OFFICES 
WITHOUT ANY IDEA JUST HOW LONG 
WE'D BE DOING THIS FOR.
WE ARE STILL MAKING DO WITH 
MAKE-SHIFT WORKSPACES, AND AS 
BONNIE ALLEN SHOWS US, OUR 
BODIES ARE STARTING TO PAY THE 
PRICE.
>> Reporter: RYAN HALATA HAS 
BUILT TWO HOME OFFICES IN HIS 
REGINA BASEMENT.
ONE FOR HIMSELF AND HIS KIDS, 
THE OTHER FOR HIS WIFE.
>> SHE EVEN TRIED USING AN 
IRONING BOARD AS A STANDUP DESK,
BUT IT WASN'T VERY STABLE.
>> Reporter: SO HE JERRY RIGGED 
A DESK, USING AN OLD DOOR, A 
BOOKSHELF AND A LAUNDRY HAMPER. 
>> THE MAIN THING WAS JUST TO 
MAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO
BE COMFORTABLE SO I DIDN'T END 
UP, YOU KNOW, HUNCHING OVER 
SOMETHING.
>> Reporter: BUT NOT EVERYONE 
HAS THOSE CARPENTRY SKILLS OR 
ERGONOMIC CHAIRS.
IN MARCH, MILLIONS OF CANADIANS 
WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR 
PROPERLY ENGINEERED WORKSTATIONS
BEHIND AS THEY RUSHED HOME TO 
MAKE-SHIFT OFFICES.
NOW SOME NEED MEDICAL TREATMENT.
CHIROPRACTOR DOUG PATTISON IS 
BACK AT HIS CLINIC AND BUSY. 
>> WE DID THE BEST WE COULD TO 
GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE WORKPLACE 
TO KEEP THEM SAFE FROM COVID, 
BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE 
ARE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WERE 
NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT ARE
EMERGING. 
>> Reporter: HE SAYS HE'S 
ALREADY TREATED SEVERAL PATIENTS
FOR CHRONIC STRAIN IN THEIR 
NECK, BACK AND SHOULDERS.
PATTISON CALLS IT WORK-FROM-HOME
SYNDROME.
>> YOU'RE WORKING AT YOUR 
KITCHEN TABLE OR THE ISLAND OR 
SITTING ON THE COUCH, AND IT'S 
PUTTING THE BODY INTO AWKWARD 
PROLONGED POSITIONS.
>> SO NOT REACHING FORWARD, NOT 
HAVING TO REACH DOWN.
>> Reporter: OCCUPATIONAL 
THERAPIST IAN LEWIS SAYS POOR 
ERGONOMICS AT HOME WILL MEAN 
DISCOMFORT FOR SOME, BUT FOR 
OTHERS A WORK-RELATED INJURY. 
>> IF IT HAPPENED AT WORK AND 
YOU FEEL IT'S PART OF A 
WORK-RELATED INJURY, THEN YOU 
CAN FILE A CLAIM WITH WCB. 
>> IT'S A STRONG REMINDER FOR 
EMPLOYERS THAT THERE IS A 
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE SAFE 
WORKSPACES.
>> Reporter: DOUG PATTISON SAYS 
EMPLOYEES SHOULD TAKE BREAKS, 
STRETCH AND ASK THEIR COMPANIES 
FOR PROPER EQUIPMENT.
BUT HE EXPECTS TO SEE MORE 
PATIENTS WALK IN HIS DOOR 
FEELING THE PAIN.
BONNIE ALLEN, CBC NEWS, REGINA.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD, ANDREW
TAKES A LOOK AT WHAT TO EXPECT 
AS THINGS START TO REOPEN.
TONIGHT, BUYING AND SELLING 
HOMES.
PLUS, YOUR VIRUS QUESTIONS, 
INCLUDING HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU 
CLEAN YOUR GLASSES.
>> Adrienne: WELCOME BACK.
THIS PANDEMIC HAS MADE DOING 
JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING HARDER, 
BUT SO MUCH OF IT HAS TO HAPPEN 
ANYWAY, SO INDUSTRY BY INDUSTRY 
PEOPLE ARE ADAPTING.
ANDREW TAKES US THROUGH THE BIG 
CHANGES IN REAL ESTATE.
*
>> Andrew: WHETHER YOU'RE BUYING
OR SELLING, THE REAL ESTATE GAME
HAS CHANGED SINCE COVID-19.
SO WHAT SHOULD YOU EXPECT?
WELL, ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE 
THINGS IS THAT OPEN HOUSES ARE 
LARGELY A THING OF THE PAST.
MAKES SENSE.
YOU DON'T WANT STRANGERS 
CONGREGATING, AND WHAT SELLER 
WOULD WANT TO HOST THAT 
GATHERING?
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LISTING, 
YOU MAY ACTUALLY FIND LIVE 
ONLINE OPEN HOUSES AT A 
SCHEDULED TIME.
>> SO YOU READY FOR A FACETIME 
TOUR?
HERE IS THE LIVING ROOM.
>> Andrew: NOW YOU CAN STILL 
POTENTIALLY ARRANGE FOR A 
PRIVATE SHOWING, BUT JUST BE 
PREPARED TO ANSWER A FEW 
QUESTIONS TO REASSURE THE 
SELLER. 
>> SOME OF THE FORMS OFFERED BY 
BROKERAGES GO INTO YOUR CONTACT 
HISTORY, SO HAVE YOU HAD ANY 
CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WITH 
COVID-19.
DO YOU HAVE A FEVER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SYMPTOMS.
HAD YOU TRAVELLED RECENTLY.
>> Andrew: WHAT'S MORE, WHEN 
YOU'RE INSIDE, YOU MAY BE 
REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK, USE 
HAND SANITIZER, AND ALSO PROMISE
NOT TO TOUCH ANYTHING.
AS A SELLER, YOU'LL ALSO HAVE 
SOME NEW CONSIDERATIONS.
FOR STARTERS, WHETHER YOU WANT 
TO ALLOW PRIVATE SHOWINGS AT 
ALL.
THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.
JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU 
HAVE A CONDO BOARD, THEY MAY 
HAVE A SAY IN THE MATTER.
OTHERWISE, IF YOU INVITE SOMEONE
IN, BE SURE TO WIPE DOWN ALL OF 
THE HIGH-TOUCH SURFACES AND THE 
ADVICE IS FOR EVERYONE'S SAKE TO
MAKE YOUR HOME AS TOUCHLESS AS 
POSSIBLE.
>> THE HOMEOWNER SHOULD LEAVE 
ALL THE LIGHTS ON.
THEY SHOULD OPEN UP ALL OF THE 
DOORS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THE
ELECTRICAL PANEL AND THE 
CUPBOARDS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE 
PLUMBING, THE ELECTRICAL, GO 
THROUGH THE PROPERTY EASILY 
WITHOUT HAVING TO INTERACT WITH 
THOSE SURFACES. 
>> Andrew: AND EITHER WAY YOU 
MAY BE ASKED TO KEEP ANY 
IN-PERSON DEALINGS SHORT, 10 TO 
15 MINUTES.
IF YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE AGENT,
HAVE A CLEAR UP-FRONT 
CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT 
WHAT OTHER THINGS MIGHT BE 
DIFFERENT IN A COVID-19 WORLD, 
BECAUSE IT IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT
BUSINESS AS USUAL.
>> Adrienne: WITH ALL THE 
CHANGES, ALL THE NEW CONCERNS 
COME A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS 
FROM YOU, SO EVERY NIGHT WE'RE 
PUTTING THEM TO DOCTORS.
EARLIER I SPOKE WITH INFECTIOUS 
DISEASE SPECIALIST DR. LYNORA 
SAXINGER.
HI, THERE, DR. SAXINGER.
LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE VERY 
FIRST QUESTION.
IF YOU HAVE RECOVERED FROM 
COVID, CAN YOU STOP SOCIAL 
DISTANCING?
>> THAT'S A LOGICAL QUESTION.
THEORETICALLY WE THINK YOU 
SHOULD BE POTENTIALLY IMMUNE, AT
LEAST FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT 
I THINK THERE'S SOME BENEFIT TO 
OBEYING THE RULES AND BEING SEEN
TO BE OBEYING THE RULES, BECAUSE
IF YOU'RE OUT IN PUBLIC AND 
THERE ARE PEOPLE NOT DISTANCING,
IT COULD BE UPSETTING TO OTHERS.
AND SO UNTIL WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL
RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD SAY WE 
SHOULD CONTINUE TO OBSERVE 
SOCIAL DISTANCING IN CASE YOU'RE
NOT IMMUNE AND ALSO TO BE A GOOD
EXAMPLE.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, THIS NEXT ONE
IS KIND OF INTERESTING.
WHAT HAPPENS IF A PREGNANT WOMAN
CONTRACTS COVID?
>> YEAH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING 
THING AS WELL.
WE'RE COMING UP ON SIX MILLION 
CASES WORLDWIDE, AND THERE HAS 
NOT BEEN A STRONG SIGNAL OF 
PARTICULAR WORSE DISEASE OR 
PREGNANCY OUTCOME ISSUES SO FAR,
SO IF THERE IS AN EFFECT, IT'S 
PROBABLY NOT REALLY LARGE.
I DID SEE ONE STUDY OF 400 
PREGNANT WOMEN WITH AN I.C.U. 
ADMISSION RATE OF AROUND 10% AND
A DEATH RATE OF 1%.
THAT'S NOT TOO DIFFERENT THAN WE
WOULD EXPECT.
WE ALSO HAVEN'T SEEN ANY STRONG 
SIGNAL OR PROBLEMS WITH A 
DEVELOPING BABY, WHICH IS 
REASSURING, BUT WE DO HAVE TO 
WATCH OUT FOR PROBLEMS LIKE 
PREMATURE LABOUR, WHICH COULD BE
A CONSEQUENCE OF ILLNESS IN 
PREGNANCY.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, HERE IS ONE 
THAT IS PRETTY PRACTICAL.
WE ARE REMINDED OFTEN ON THE 
PROPER USE, REMOVAL AND CLEANING
OF OUR NON-MEDICAL MASKS.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO MENTION OF 
OUR GLASSES.
SHOULD THERE BE A SIMILAR 
PROTOCOL.
>> THAT'S INTERESTING.
I THINK THE DIFFERENCE TO ME IS 
THAT A MASK IS ACTUALLY 
FILTERING AIR AND IS A PLACE 
WHERE WE THINK A VIRUS COULD 
THEORETICALLY COLLECT ACTUALLY 
ON BOTH THE INNER AND OUTER 
SURFACE.
WHEREAS YOUR GLASSES ARE JUST 
MOVING THROUGH THE WORLD WITH 
YOU.
BECAUSE THEY ARE FACING THE 
WORLD, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU 
SHOULD CONSIDER CLEANING YOUR 
GLASSES MORE OFTEN AND WASHING 
YOUR HANDS AFTER TOUCHING THEM, 
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE 
SAME RISK OF MASKS, BASICALLY 
BEING A VIRUS CATCHER OR VIRUS 
CONCENTRATOR.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, WE HAVE TIME 
VERY BRIEFLY FOR ONE MORE.
WE'RE AWARE OF HOW SENSITIVE A 
DOG CAN SMELL.
SOME HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO SENSE 
CANCER.
WILL WE SEE A TIME WHEN THEY MAY
BE TRAINED TO DETECT 
CORONAVIRUS?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY 
INTERESTING QUESTION.
I DID JUST SEE SOMETHING, THAT 
THERE ARE SOME STUDIES THAT THEY
ARE TRYING TO DO WITH A COHORT 
OF DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINED 
TO SNIFF THE URINE OF COVID 
PATIENTS AND IDENTIFY THEM.
AND IF THEY CAN VERIFY THE 
TRAINING OF THE DOGS, THEY ARE 
GOING TO MOVE ON TO START 
TESTING PATIENT SAMPLES THAT 
WAY.
BUT IN ALL OF THE DOG STUDIES, 
IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY CAN SENSE, 
YOU KNOW, METABOLIC OR OTHER 
DERANGEMENTS VERY, VERY 
SENSITIVELY, BUT THE 
STANDARDIZATION BETWEEN DOGS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.
SO I WILL ALSO WATCH THAT WITH 
INTEREST.
>> Adrienne: SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD 
STORY.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, 
DR. SAXINGER.
>> MY PLEASURE.
THANK YOU.
>> Adrienne: WE ARE ASKING YOUR 
QUESTIONS AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, 
SO SEND US THE QUESTIONS YOU 
HAVE.
MESSAGE US DIRECTLY ON INSTAGRAM
@CBCTHENATIONAL OR SEND US AN 
EMAIL AT COVID@cbc.ca.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE 
NATIONAL," A COUPLE THAT 
OVERCAME A LONG-DISTANCE 
RELATIONSHIP ARE NOW FACING A 
NEW INCREDIBLY RARE OBSTACLE, 
THE SAME CANCER DIAGNOSIS.
>> WE HAVE EACH OTHER, WE 
UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER A LOT MORE
NOW THAN WE DID BEFORE.
>> Adrienne: THEIR STORY AHEAD, 
BUT FIRST, IT'S THURSDAY, SO 
ROSIE AND THE "AT ISSUE" CREW 
ARE HERE.
>> Rosemary: ADRIENNE, TONIGHT 
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE 
RESPONSE TO THOSE MILITARY 
REPORTS INTO LONG-TERM CARE 
HOMES IN ONTARIO AND IN QUEBEC, 
FROM CALLS TO ACTION TO 
POLITICAL FIXES.
WHAT DOES THE WAY FORWARD LOOK 
LIKE?
THAT'S NEXT WITH ANDREW, CHANTAL
AND ALTHIA.
*
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THERE
ARE THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE 
EXTREMELY TROUBLING, AND WE NEED
TO TAKE ACTION.
>> Premier François Legault: 
MR. TRUDEAU, IF YOU REALLY WANT 
TO HELP US IN LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES, PLEASE INCREASE YOUR
TRANSFER AND HELP TO ALL 
PROVINCES.
>> Premier Doug Ford: NO 
PROVINCE CAN DO IT ALONE.
WE NEED THEIR SUPPORT.
IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM,
A BROKEN SYSTEM.
>> Rosemary: CALLS TO ACTION 
FROM ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT 
THIS WEEK AFTER TWO BACK-TO-BACK
REPORTS FROM THE MILITARY 
EXPOSED THE SITUATION IN SOME 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES IN ONTARIO 
AND IN QUEBEC.
A SITUATION OBVIOUSLY ONLY MADE 
WORSE BY THE COVID-19 CRISIS.
SO WHAT KIND OF POLITICAL 
RESPONSE IS NEEDED TO FIX THIS 
PROBLEM?
IT'S THURSDAY, AND I'M HERE WITH
"AT ISSUE."
CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE AND
ALTHIA RAJ, GOOD TO SEE 
EVERYBODY.
ALTHIA, GOOD THAT YOU'RE BACK 
THIS WEEK.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
TECHNICAL PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN 
SURMOUNTED.
OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T THE FIRST 
TIME THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT 
PROBLEMS IN LONG-TERM CARE, BUT 
IT SEEMS BECAUSE OF THE 
PANDEMIC, BECAUSE PERHAPS IT'S 
THE MILITARY THAT MADE THESE 
OBSERVATIONS, POLITICAL LEADERS 
ARE UNDER SOME PRESSURE, AND I 
WONDER WHETHER THIS WILL CHANGE 
IN A REAL WAY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THIS WEEK.
I'LL START WITH ALTHIA BECAUSE 
SHE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE LAST 
WEEK.
ALTHIA?
>> WELL, I THINK A FEW THINGS 
HAPPENED.
ONE, THERE WAS OUTSIDE 
ACCOUNTABILITY, SO THERE WAS 
PRESSURE FOR A FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO SAY SOMETHING AND 
DO SOMETHING, AND IT FIT IN A 
NARRATIVE THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU 
THE PRIME MINISTER HAD BEEN 
TALKING ABOUT FOR WEEKS, 
FRANKLY.
AND HE IS -- HAS ALREADY SAID HE
IS READY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 
THIS, AND SO THE FACT THAT IT 
EMERGED THROUGH THE MILITARY I 
THINK IS NOT THAT SURPRISING.
THIS SPEAKS TO LONG-STANDING 
PROBLEMS THAT EVERYBODY WAS 
AWARE OF, BUT I THINK THE FACT 
THAT YOU HAVE A VULNERABLE 
POPULATION WHO MOSTLY CANNOT 
SPEAK UP FOR THEMSELVES, I'M 
THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE, MANY OF 
WHOM HAVE DEMENTIA IN LONG-TERM 
CARE HOMES, AND WORKERS WHO 
THEMSELVES FEEL VULNERABLE, A 
LOT OF NEW IMMIGRANTS ARE 
WORKING, WOMEN, SOMETIMES SOLE 
PROVIDERS IN THEIR FAMILY ARE 
WORKING IN THESE HOMES, 
PRECARIOUS JOBS, THEY DON'T PAY 
MUCH, THEY ARE USUALLY PART-TIME
JOBS BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE 
TO HAVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT.
YOU HAD -- LIKE, IT WASN'T THAT 
WE NEEDED ANOTHER REPORT.
IT WAS THAT THIS ONE CAME WITH 
ALARM BELLS AND THE FACT THAT 
THERE ARE 4,000 PEOPLE THAT HAVE
DIED IS REALLY HARD TO IGNORE.
>> Rosemary: IT CAME WITH ALARM 
BELLS, ANDREW, BUT IT ALSO CAME 
WITH A CONVERSATION AROUND 
JURISDICTION, WHICH I UNDERSTAND
FOR SURE, BUT I WONDER WHETHER 
WE CAN SURMOUNT THE QUESTION OF 
JURISDICTION TO GET TO ACTUAL 
SOLUTIONS.
>> PROBABLY NOT.
WE ARE IN THE PRESSURE COOKER OF
AN IMMEDIATE CRISIS RIGHT NOW 
WITH A LOT OF POLITICAL HEAT, 
AND WHILE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO 
FIX THIS PROBLEM, THE PROBLEMS 
OF THIS NATURE ARE NOT GOING TO 
BE FIXED OVERNIGHT.
SO I WOULD BEWARE OF QUICK 
SOLUTIONS OR INSTANT ANALYSES OF
THIS AND ONE GOVERNMENT DOING IT
ON THEIR OWN, PARTICULARLY IF 
IT'S FEDERAL.
THEY WILL RUN INTO RESISTANCE 
FROM THE PROVINCES.
I'M ONE WHO HAS BASHED THE 
PROVINCES ON OCCASION IN THE 
PAST, BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF 
THING THAT IS BY ITS NATURE HARD
TO RUN OUT OF OTTAWA.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE FEDS WOULD 
BE TOO INTERESTED IN 
MICROMANAGING IT, BUT THEY ARE 
GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE 
PROVINCES ON BOARD, AND THAT 
WILL HAVE TO INVOLVE THOSE LONG 
TEDIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT 
SOMETIMES WE YAWN AT. 
>> Rosemary: IT DOESN'T SEEM AS 
THOUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
WANTS TO TAKE IT OVER, EVEN THE 
CONVERSATION AROUND THE CANADA 
HEALTH ACT.
IT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME, CHANTAL,
LIKE OTTAWA IS VERY INCLINED TO 
GO DOWN THAT ROAD. 
>> NO.
FOR ONE, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, 
RESISTANCE FROM THE PROVINCES.
THE FACT IS ANDREW IS RIGHT, THE
PROVINCES RUN THE HEALTH CARE 
SYSTEM, AND IT'S NOT JUST A 
JURISDICTIONAL ISSUE.
THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO 
SO.
SO UP TO A POINT, IF YOU WANT TO
IMPROVE THE SYSTEM, IF YOU WANT,
FOR INSTANCE, TO MAKE LONG-TERM 
CARE PART OF THE UMBRELLA OF 
PUBLIC HEALTH CARE, YOU NEED 
PROVINCES TO BUY IN BECAUSE THAT
WOULD BE PART OF AN INTEGRATED 
SYSTEM, AND THEY RUN THE SYSTEM.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT CAN DO THIS, OR 
ARBITRARILY BRING IT UNDER THE 
UMBRELLA OF THE MEDICARE SYSTEM.
BUT THE OTHER ISSUE FOR THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF IT WANTS 
TO BE A FORCE FOR REFORM IN 
THIS, IS AT SOME POINT THE 
TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO 
HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.
ITS BIG HEALTH CARE SOCIAL 
POLICY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 
PHARMACARE.
I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT 
PUBLIC OPINION OR NEED IS THERE 
RATHER THAN IN LONG-TERM CARE.
FEDERAL MONEY IS ONLY GOING TO 
HAVE TO BE ON THE TABLE TO BUY 
REFORMS.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN MOVE 
AHEAD WITH FOUR OR FIVE REFORMS 
AT THE SAME TIME IN THE FISCAL 
CONTEXT THAT WILL BE THE FISCAL 
CONTEXT OF THE POST-PANDEMIC 
ERA.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S A VERY GOOD 
POINT, ALTHIA.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT HAS TO SHIFT SOME OF 
ITS OWN PRIORITIES AROUND WHERE 
IT WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON HEALTH 
CARE. 
>> I AGREE.
I BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT 
NATIONAL PHARMACARE KIND OF GETS
PUT ON THE BACK BURNER WHILE THE
GOVERNMENT LOOKS AT 
STRENGTHENING THE WELFARE 
SYSTEM, THE SOCIAL SAFETY 
SYSTEM, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I THINK THE CONVERSATION OVER 
JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES KIND OF 
HAS MONOPOLIZED THE MEDIA'S 
QUESTIONING AT PRESS 
CONFERENCES, I WOULD SAY.
BUT INSTEAD OF ASKING HOW HE'S 
GOING TO GET THE PROVINCES TO 
AGREE, WE THE MEDIA HAVE NOT 
REALLY ASKED HIM HOW MUCH MONEY 
HE'S WILLING TO PUT FORWARD TO 
FIX THE PROBLEM, AND THAT'S 
PROBABLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE 
FOCUSING ON, BECAUSE THE 
PROVINCES SEEMED READY TO MOVE 
AS LONG AS OTTAWA IS READY TO 
FORK OVER THE CASH.
>> Rosemary: MM-HM.
IT COULD -- I MEAN, THEY MIGHT 
BE WAITING TO SAY HERE IS WHAT 
WE NEED SO THAT OTTAWA DOESN'T 
OVER-OFFER IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY
HAVE IN MIND.
BUT WHAT KIND OF -- BEYOND THE 
FUNDING POINT OF IT, ANDREW, 
WHAT IS THE LEADERSHIP PLAY THAT
OTTAWA COULD HAVE IN THIS 
CONVERSATION?
OR IS THAT IT?
>> I THINK IT IS MOSTLY FUNDING,
AND I THINK WE WANT TO BEWARE OF
THIS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
ONE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN 
MENTIONING THAT THEY ALREADY 
HAVE ENORMOUS BURDENS THAT THEY 
ARE TAKING ON ALREADY IN MANY 
CASES TO BAIL OUT THE PROVINCES.
MOST OF THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE, 
THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE 
ENACTED ARE SHORT-TERM THINGS 
THEY CAN UNWIND ONCE THE CRISIS 
HAS PASSED.
THIS IS A MORE PERMANENT THING.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT 
ADDITIONAL SENSE, THEN YOU HAVE 
TO KNOW FIRST OF ALL WHAT YOU'RE
GOING TO DO WITHOUT TO MAKE ROOM
FOR, AND SECONDLY WHAT YOU THINK
IS GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING TO 
IT THAT IS NOT CONTRIBUTED BY 
THE PROVINCES.
WHETHER MORE MONEY IS REQUIRED 
OR SMARTER REGULATION, FOR 
EXAMPLE, OF THESE HOMES IS 
ANOTHER QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, IN ONTARIO'S CASE, THE
INSPECTORS APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW,
STOPPED INSPECTING, IN-PERSON 
INSPECTIONS PARTWAY INTO THE 
PANDEMIC.
THAT CERTAINLY DIDN'T HELP.
>> Rosemary: CHANTAL.
>> BUT CAN WE AGREE THAT BEYOND 
JURISDICTION AND 
FEDERAL-PROVINCIAL, THAT THE 
AGING OF THE POPULATION HAS BEEN
A MAJOR POLICY ISSUE THAT'S BEEN
ON THE RADAR FOR A LONG, LONG 
TIME.
>> Rosemary: YEP.
>> AND NOT BASED ON SOME 
UNCERTAIN ASSUMPTION.
AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING AS A 
RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT THAT
IS NOT THE MAIN CAUSE, IS WHAT 
HAPPENS WHEN GOVERNMENTS SHOVEL 
FORWARD A STRUCTURAL DEMOGRAPHIC
ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN LOOMING.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, I GOT TO 
LEAVE IT THERE.
THANK YOU ALL.
GLAD YOU'RE ALL HERE.
ALTHIA, GLAD WE GOT YOU BACK 
THIS WEEK.
BEFORE WE GO, BE SURE TO 
SUBSCRIBE TO AT ISSUE THE 
PODCAST.
WE ALWAYS HAVE EXTRA CONTENT 
THERE.
THIS WEEK WE'LL TALK ABOUT MENG 
WANZHOU'S EXTRADITION.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR CANADA-CHINA 
RELATIONS.
LOOK FOR IT ON ANY MAJOR PODCAST
APP AND OUR WEBSITE.
FOR NOW THOUGH, BACK TO ADRIENNE
IN TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: NEXT ON "THE 
NATIONAL," THE COUPLE FIGHTING A
RARE DOUBLE CANCER DIAGNOSIS.
THE STORY OF LUKE AND LINDSEY 
BELDING RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> Adrienne: WE'D LIKE TO 
INTRODUCE YOU NOW TO LUKE AND 
LINDSEY BELDING.
THEY WORKED THROUGH A LONG 
DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP TO FINALLY
START THEIR LIVES TOGETHER IN 
WINNIPEG.
BUT THEN CAME ONE DEVASTATING 
BLOW FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER.
WE'LL LET CAMERON MACINTOSH TELL
YOU ABOUT THOSE AND THE PART 
COVID-19 IS PLAYING.
>> Reporter: A YOUNG COUPLE JUST
GETTING STARTED, BUT NOW 
FIGHTING THE SAME RARE BLOOD 
CANCER.
THE ODDS OF IT, DOCTORS SAY, 
UNHEARD OF. 
>> MY REACTION WAS JUST COMPLETE
SHOCK.
THERE WAS REALLY NO BETTER WAY 
TO DESCRIBE IT, BECAUSE IT'S 
JUST UNEXPECTED.
>> Reporter: FOR LINDSEY AND 
LUKE BELDING, IT STARTED IN 
2018, TWO WEEKS AFTER GETTING 
ENGAGED.
LUKE WAS DIAGNOSED.
THEY MARRIED IN THE HOSPITAL AS 
HE WAS BEING TREATED.
EARLIER THIS MONTH, HE WAS IN 
TREATMENT AGAIN AND ABOUT TO 
COME HOME.
>> UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T 
GETTING TO GO HOME WITH LINDSEY,
LIKE WE HAD PLANNED.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE SHE 
SUDDENLY GOT SICK.
DOCTORS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT 
WAS BEFORE SENDING LUKE HOME.
THAT'S WHEN LINDSEY WAS 
DIAGNOSED.
>> YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF 
DENIAL IN THERE AND YOU'RE LIKE,
WAIT, BUT THIS IS -- THIS IS 
WHAT LUKE HAS, NOT WHAT I HAVE.
>> Reporter: ACUTE LYMPHOBLASTIC
LEUKEMIA, THOSE PURPLE DOTS IN 
THIS MAGNIFIED BLOOD SMEAR, 
DEVELOPS IN WHITE BLOOD CELLS.
IT'S RARE AND IT'S SERIOUS.
>> IT WAS EASIER TO HANDLE MY 
OWN DIAGNOSIS HAVING BEEN 
THROUGH IT WITH LUKE.
>> Reporter: NOW LINDSEY IS IN 
TREATMENT.
LUKE IS HOME WITH A WEAKENED 
IMMUNE SYSTEM.
>> THE LAST TIME I SAW HER WOULD
HAVE BEEN THE DAY I WAS 
DISCHARGED.
SHE WAS ABLE -- SHE WAS MOVED UP
TO THE WARD AND WE HAD ABOUT 24 
HOURS.
>> SO FAR MY DAY-TO-DAY HAS BEEN
PRETTY GOOD.
MY SIDE EFFECTS HAVE BEEN 
MINIMAL FROM THE CHEMO I'VE HAD 
SO FAR. 
>> WE MESSAGE EACH OTHER ALL THE
TIME, CHECKING TO SEE HOW SHE'S 
DOING WITH HER TREATMENTS AND 
HOW I'M DOING AT HOME. 
>> Reporter: LUKE FROM NEW 
BRUNSWICK, LINDSEY FROM 
MASSACHUSETTS, THE PANDEMIC IS 
KEEPING THEIR FAMILIES FROM 
TRAVELLING TO HELP.
THEY HAVE FRIENDS.
THERE'S A GoFundMe TO HELP COVER
COSTS.
LINDSEY SAYS AS A COUPLE THEY'RE
UNIQUELY EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH 
IT. 
>> WE HAVE EACH OTHER.
WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER A LOT 
MORE NOW THAN WE DID BEFORE.
>> Reporter: AS RANDOM AND 
UNFAIR AS IT ALL IS.
CAMERON MACINTOSH, CBC NEWS, 
WINNIPEG.
>> Adrienne: WE WISH THEM ALL 
THE BEST.
THE "MOMENT" IS NEXT.
THE CALGARY HIGH SCHOOLERS WITH 
A PLAN TO MAKE YOU SMI
>> Adrienne: THIS CALGARY 
TEACHER AND HIS STUDENTS WANTED 
TO BRING SOME JOY IN THE MIDST 
OF THE PANDEMIC, SO THEY SET UP 
A HOTLINE.
CALL THE NUMBER, HEAR A JOKE.
SO THEY CALL THE HOTLINE "JOY 
FOR ALL" AND IT'S CAUGHT THE 
ATTENTION OF MANY CANADIANS, AND
ONE FAMOUS TALK SHOW HOST, AND 
THAT IS OUR "MOMENT."
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>> WHAT IS A TORNADO'S FAVOURITE
GAME TO PLAY?
TWISTER!
>> THE JOY FOR ALL PROJECT IS A 
PHONE LINE THAT YOU CAN CALL AT 
ANY TIME AT ANY HOUR OF THE DAY.
>> THE GOAL BEING TO CREATE 
CONNECTION, ESPECIALLY ACROSS 
GENERATIONS.
SO WHEN YOU CALL OUR NUMBER, 
1-877-JOY-4-ALL, YOU WILL HEAR A
MESSAGE.
>> I WENT TO A WEDDING WITH TWO 
SATELLITE DISHES GOT MARRIED.
THE CEREMONY WASN'T GREAT, BUT 
THE RECEPTION WAS AMAZING.
>> WE HAVEN'T DELVED A LOT INTO 
THE KNOCK-KNOCK JOKES.
WE FEEL WE HAVE A FEW MORE 
MONTHS' WORTH OF HUMOUR.
>> WE HIT 21,000 I THINK ON 
MONDAY.
IT WAS AFTER THE JAMES CORDON 
SHOW. 
>> LEGENDARY COMEDIAN BILLY 
CRYSTAL IS HERE RIGHT NOW.
BILLY, HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD.
HI, JAMES.
>> IT'S THE BEST THING EVER.
>> THE SURPRISE FROM BILLY 
CRYSTAL WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
I THINK -- LIKE I STILL HAVEN'T 
STOPPED VIBRATING FROM IT. 
>> HOW DO YOU KEEP A BAGEL FROM 
GETTING AWAY?
YOU PUT LOX ON IT!
>> Adrienne: BAH DUMB BUM.
SO LISTEN, GOOD FOR YOU GUYS.
THEY ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS TO 
REACH OUT TO SENIORS.
SO MANY OTHERS ARE CALLING.
KEEP IT UP.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR 
THURSDAY, MAY 28.
GOOD NIGHT.
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