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>>  WITH THE SHOOTING OF JACOB
BLAKE, RACIAL TENSES CRACKLE
LIKE WILDFIRE.
BACK AT HOME, CHIEF CRAIG TELLS
PROTESTERS THERE WILL BE NO
SEATTLE IN DETROIT.
CHIEF JAMES CRAIG IS HERE AND SO
IS COLUMNIST EUGENE ROBINSON AND
HE’S BRINGING OPTIMISM.
MEET A NEW CAMPAIGN ASKING
PEOPLE TO GET THEIR PANDEMIC ACT
TOGETHER.
TODAY A SUNDAY, AUGUST 30TH,
2020 AND THIS IS FLASH POINT.
>> HI, WELCOME TO FLASH POINT.
AUK  AUGUST COMES TO A CLOSE
AFTER A WEEK THAT CONCLUDED LIKE
A HURRICANE AND INCLUDED A
MASSIVE HURRICANE.
HURRICANE LAURA IS GONE AND
LEAVES BEHIND SO MUCH DAMAGE AND
UNKIND REMINDER WE’RE JUST
GETTING STARTED WITH HURRICANE
SEASON AND ONE THAT THREATENED
TO HAVE TWO HURRICANES CHURNING
AROUND AT THE SAME TIME.
WE MOVED FROM CONVENTION SEASON
TO CAMPAIGN SEASON.
I’M NOT CONVINCED THERE ARE THAT
MANY UNDECIDED VOTERS OUT THERE.
IT’S FOR A TURNOUT.
65 DAYS AWAY AND THE ELECTION
WILL REMAIN FUELED BY THE
PROTESTS THAT WERE INJECTED WITH
MORE ANGER AND ENERGY THIS WEEK
WITH THE SHOOTING OF JACOB
BLAKE.
LAST WEEKEND’S THE TENSEST
MOMENTS IN DETROIT IN SOME TIME
AS THEY TRIED TO SHUT DOWN
WOODWARD AVENUE DOWNTOWN.
I’M GOING TO TALK WITH POLICE
CHIEF JAMES CRAIG ON THE
COMMENTS ON WHAT HE WILL AND
WILL NOT TOLERATE IN DETROIT.
AND MY CONVERSATION WITH
PULITZER PRIZE EUGENE ROBINSON
AFTER WRITING ABOUT RACE FOR
DECADES, YOU’LL FIND HE’S
SURPRISINGLY OPTIMISTIC.
A PUSH TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE
SMARTER WHEN IT COMES TO
COVID-19.
IT’S A PACKED DAY ON FLASH
POINT.
♪
>>  ALL RIGHT, LAST WEEKEND IN
DOWNTOWN DETROIT, WE SAW ONE OF
THE MORE DRAMATIC COLLISIONS
BETWEEN DETROIT POLICE AND THE
DETROIT WILL BREATHE PROTESTERS
AND IN THE AFTERMATH, DETROIT
POLICE CHIEF JAMES CRAIG SAID
DETROITERS ARE FED UP WITH THE
GROUP AND THEIR DEMANDS AFTER
SHUTTING DOWN WOODWARD AVENUE,
CHIEF CRAIG SAID RATHER FIRMLY,
DETROIT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
BE SEATTLE.
CHIEF, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED IN KENOSHA.
BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, YOU’VE
NOW HAD A WEEK TO DIGEST WHAT
HAPPENED LAST WEEKEND.
YOU’VE WATCHED THE VIDEO OF YOUR
OFFICERS MAKING PRETTY LIBERAL
USE OF THEIR NIGHT STICKS, I
WOULD SAY ON THE PROTESTERS LAST
SATURDAY NIGHT DOWNTOWN.
SUM UP FOR ME HOW YOU FEEL IT
WAS HANDLED.
>> WELL, DEVIN, FIRST, LET ME
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE SHOW
THIS SUNDAY.
I’VE HAD A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW,
DIGEST, AS YOU SAID THE EVENTS
THAT TOOK PLACE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WEEK 13 AND
WE’VE HAD SOME GREAT DAYS,
MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS ABOUT
YOU I’VE GOT TO TELL YOU, THERE
WERE TIMES THAT INDIVIDUALS
EMBEDDED BECAME VIOLENT.
WE KNOW IT, DURING THIS PROTEST,
INDIVIDUALS WERE ARMED WITH
THOSE GREEN LASERS YOU’VE HEARD
SO MUCH ABOUT IN OTHER CITIES.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT IMPACTED THREE FEDERAL
AGENTS.
WE WERE VERY CONCERNED.
FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU INDICATED
IN YOUR MONOLOGUE.
WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
SEATTLE ZONE WITH LAWLESSNESS
HERE IN DETROIT, THAT WAS NOT AN
OPTION.
BUT THAT SAID, WE WERE PATIENT.
WE TALKED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR,
REPEATED WARNINGS YOU WOULD BE
ARRESTED.
THEY SAID WE’RE NOT GOING
ANYWHERE.
THEY WANTED TO BE ARRESTED AND
MADE DEMAND AND THE DEMAND WAS,
THEY WANTED FEDERAL AGENTS TO
LEAVE THE CITY OF DETROIT.
AGAIN, STILL SHOWING TREMENDOUS
PATIENCE AND THEN WHEN WE BEGAN
TO AFFECT ARRESTS, THERE WAS
RESISTANCE.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE VIDEOS
WHERE SOME OF THE PROTESTERS ARE
PULLING ON OUR OFFICERS TO FREE
THEIR COMRADES AND SO, 44
ARRESTS TOTAL THROUGHOUT THIS
ORDEAL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL INVESTIGATIONS
THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
OFFICER’S ACTIONS WERE
APPROPRIATE, BUT GIVEN THE
AMOUNT OF RESISTANCE THAT WE SAW
THEN AND WE’VE SEEN THROUGHOUT
THE 13 WEEKS PERIODICALLY,
CERTAINLY MY HAT GOES OFF TO THE
MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DETROIT
POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAVE JUST
DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OVER THESE
PAST WEEKS.
>> THE APPEARANCE OF FEDERAL
OFFICERS HAS CERTAINLY ADDED A
NEW WRINKLE FOR THE PROTESTERS
AND A NEW FRUSTRATION FOR THEM.
HAS THAT BEEN A PRESENCE TO YOUR
WAY OF THINKING THAT HAS BEEN
HELPFUL FOR THE CITY OR HAS THE
NET BEEN ONE THAT’S BEEN
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT’S GIVEN
THE PROTESTERS SOMETHING ELSE TO
BE ANGRY ABOUT?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT PROBLEMATIC,
DEVIN.
LET ME JUST SAY THIS, IT’S NOT
ABOUT FEDERAL AGENTS, IT’S NOT
ABOUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT IS SOMETHING MUCH DEEPER THAN
THAT, OKAY?
EVEN IF THE FEDERAL AGENTS--
WHAT WE SAW IN PORTLAND IS A
GREAT EXAMPLE.
SO THEY PULL THE FEDERAL AGENTS
BACK AND THE RIOTING CONTINUED.
IT CONTINUED.
SO IT’S NOT ABOUT FEDERAL
AGENTS.
THE FEDERAL AGENTS ARE HERE IN
DETROIT TO DO ONE THING AND ONE
THING ONLY, TO WORK WITH THIS
DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE’VE WORKED
WITH FEDERAL AGENTS NOW FOR 26
YEARS, DEVIN, 26 YEARS.
>> YEAH.
>> AND IT’S WITH THE SOLE
PURPOSE OF REDUCING VIOLENCE.
IT’S NO SECRET THAT THERE’S BEEN
AN INCREASE OF VIOLENCE NOT JUST
HERE IN DETROIT, BUT AROUND THE
COUNTRY IN MOST OF THE MAJOR
CITIES.
THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO WHAT
WE ALREADY AGREED TO LATE
DECEMBER.
AND SO, THIS IS THE WAY THE
NARRATIVE IS CONSTANTLY TWISTED,
EVEN WHEN WE ENGAGE THE
PROTESTERS, WHEN THERE IS
VIOLENCE, THEY DENY THERE WAS
ANY VIOLENCE, THEY ALWAYS SAY
IT’S THE POLICE THAT INCITE THE
VIOLENCE.
WHEN YOU START POINTING LASERS
AT OUR HELICOPTER, LASERS AT IS
SOME OF THE OFFICERS ON THE
GROUND, THAT’S VERY SERIOUS.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT I
WAS ALSO TOLD AT THE TIME I
BRIEFED OUT ON THIS, THERE WAS
INDICATIONS OF PROJECTILES BEING
THROWN.
>> I DON’T KNOW IF YOU FEEL
COMFORTABLE SORT OF SUMMING WHAT
YOU’VE SEEN OF THE JACOB BLAKE
CASE, BUT EVERY TIME WE FEEL
THAT MAYBE WE’RE REACHING A
MOMENT WHERE, I DON’T WANT TO
SAY THAT EVERYBODY CAN RELAX,
BECAUSE THAT’S CERTAINLY NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT A MOMENT OF
RELATIVE CALM, IT’S BROKEN UP BY
YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY
WHAT THESE PROTESTS ARE ABOUT.
DO YOU FEEL OKAY SUMMING UP WHAT
YOU’VE SEEN IN KENOSHA, WITH IS
WHICH IS?
>>  WISCONSIN?
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS I SAW, TRY
NOT TO BE CRITICAL OF ANOTHER
POLICE AGENCY HAVING TO HANDLE
THIS.
CERTAINLY KENOSHA PROBABLY
DIDN’T HAVE TO HANDLE THIS.
BUT AS WE HANDLED SEVERAL
OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.
YOU MUST GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT
VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE IF YOU
DON’T, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER
NARRATIVE WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO
HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA WILL PUT
OUT.
WE SAW IT HERE IN DETROIT.
AND SO IT TOOK DAYS BEFORE THERE
WAS A WRITTEN STATEMENT PUT OUT,
I BELIEVE, BY THE DEPARTMENT,
BUT THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE SHOULD
HAVE GOT UP, STOOD BEFORE A
CAMERA, AND AT LEAST PROVIDED
THE COMMUNITY WITH SOME SENSE OF
WHAT TOOK PLACE.
THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THAT
SITUATION, YOU KNOW, DEVIN, I
CAN’T DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU WHAT
HAPPENED.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I SAW ON THE
ONE VIDEO AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE VIDEO, IT’S
ABSOLUTELY TROUBLING, BUT THERE
MAY BE MORE.
THERE’S SOME CONVERSATION
SURROUNDING THAT MAYBE HE WAS
GOING FOR A KNIFE.
THERE WAS CONVERSATION THAT
PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING THAT
OFFICERS USED THEIR TASERS, AND
WHY DID THEY?
BUT WE JUST DON’T KNOW ALL THE
FACTS.
>> THERE’S STILL A LOT TO GET
TO.
CHIEF, ONLY HAVE GOT ABOUT 30
SECONDS LEFT.
YOU’RE GOING TO ADDRESS ONE
THING.
YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR AT
CONVENTIONS AND THE NEXT FEW
MONTHS THE MAYHEM RUN IN
DEMOCRATICALLY RUN CITIES.
HOW WOULD YOU TAKE A SHOT AT
THAT?
>> AND THIS POLICE CHIEF AND OUR
MAYOR WE’RE IN LOCK STEP.
HE’S NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE
INCREASING VIOLENCE, HE NEVER
HAS BEEN.
SO WE’RE WORKING TOGETHER VERY
EFFECTIVELY AND THAT’S WHAT YOU
DON’T SEE IN SOME OF THE OTHER
CITIES.
WHEN YOU HAVE A MAYOR OF ANOTHER
CITY, UNNAMED CITY AND SAY
SUMMER OF LOVE AND THEN THEY
CAUSE THE OFFICERS TO RETREAT
FROM THEIR POLICE STATION, AND
THEN THERE’S A VIOLENT CRIME
THAT TAKES PLACE TWO MURDERS TO
BE EXACT, AND THE POLICE ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO GO IN, THAT IS NOT A
SUMMER OF LOVE.
THAT’S A DISASTER.
>> CHIEF, I’VE GOT TO GET TO A
BREAK.
I SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US AGAIN
ON FLASH POINT.
LOOK FORWARD HAVING YOU BACK
AGAIN SOON.
WE’LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
EUGENE ROBINSON NEXT ON
FLASH POINT.
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>>  WELCOME BACK, CERTAINLY
>>  WELCOME BACK, CERTAINLY
GIVEN THE TURMOIL IN THE STREETS
OF AMERICA, 2020, YOU MAY BE
FEELING QUITE DESPONDENT OR
RESIGNED ABOUT THE STATE OF RACE
RELATIONS IN AMERICA.
WELL, CONSIDER THE THOUGHTS OF A
MAN WRITING ABOUT RACE IN THE
UNITED STATES FOR DECADES, AS A
PULITZER PRIZE WINNING COLUMNIST
FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST."
EUGENE ROBINSON WAS A SPEAKER
FOR THE VIRTUAL VERSION OF THE
MACKINAC CONFERENCE.
AND HE FOUND OPTIMISM BECAUSE OF
THE DIVERSITY OF VOICES HE’S
SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I
WAS HAPPY TO GET TO HIM
AFTERWARDS ON HIS REMARKS.
>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE ARRIVED AT
SOMEPLACE NEW.
I THINK WELCOME TO THE NEW
AMERICA.
AND FROM THIS POINT, IT’S REALLY
UP TO ALL OF US NOT JUST--
THINKING OF OURSELVES AS A
SOCIETY.
THINK OF OURSELVES AS
INDIVIDUALS.
IT’S UP TO EVERY ONE OF US, ALL
330 MILLION OF US, TO DECIDE
WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS AND THE
STEP AFTER THAT.
TO DECIDE WHAT STEPS WE CAN TAKE
IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES, OUR OWN
OFFICES, OUR OWN FAMILIES, WHAT
WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER.
IT’S UP TO ALL OF US TO SHAPE
THE FUTURE AND IT’S AN EXCITING
PROJECT AND AN EXCITING PROSPECT
FOR THE NEXT YEARS AND DECADES.
AND LET’S GET TO IT.
WE’RE SOMEPLACE NEW, WE’VE NEVER
BEEN HERE BEFORE.
LET’S MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE.
>> EUGENE, I WANT TO START WITH
THE FACT THAT YOU KIND OF--
YOU ADMITTED YOU’RE AN OPTIMIST
AND I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES
BEFORE YOU HAVE FELT LIKE WE
WERE AT THE DOORSTEP OF REAL
PROGRESS AND IT JUST DIDN’T
HAPPEN.
WE THINK OF SO MANY IMAGES THAT
WE’VE SEEN THAT MIGHT HAVE
IGNITED OR WE HOPED WOULD IGNITE
REAL CHANGE, WHETHER IT WAS
RODNEY KING, ERIC GARNER, TOO
MANY, TOO MANY TO MENTION, BUT I
WONDER HOW MANY TIMES YOU FELT
THAT OPTIMISM BEFORE AND IF
YOU’VE BEEN ABLE TO DISCERN WHY
THAT OPTIMISM IS THAT DIFFERENT
TO YOU?
>> WELL, LOOK, I WILL DATE
MYSELF, BUT AFTER THE ’60S, THE
CHANGES, RIGHT, BECAUSE I WAS--
I GREW UP IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHEN
THE STRUGGLE WAS ON TO PASS THE
LANDMARK LEGISLATION, THE CIVIL
RIGHTS ACT, THE VOTING RIGHTS
ACT, THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.
SO I REMEMBER JIM CROW
SEGREGATION.
I REMEMBER AND THERE WERE BLACK
SCHOOLS, THERE WERE WHITE
SCHOOLS AND THEN THERE WERE NOT
EVENTUALLY.
IT TOOK A WHILE AND IT TOOK
STRUGGLE, BUT THERE WERE NOT.
AND THERE WAS A MOMENT IN THE
’60S, THE BEGINNING.
70’S
70’S, WHEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS
LEGISLATION WAS REALLY TAKING
HOLD AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
PROGRAMS WERE BEGINNING TO SORT
OF LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND CERTAINLY
FOR ME, AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
THAT WAS A TIME OF GREAT
OPTIMISM.
IT’S DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE THE
LEGAL BATTLES HAVE BASICALLY
BEEN WON, RIGHT?
I MEAN, IN A -- RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION IS BASICALLY
OUTLAWED.
BUT CERTAINLY NOT ELIMINATED.
AND SO, IT’S A DIFFERENT KIND OF
STRUGGLE.
IT’S REALLY AGAINST RACISM, IT’S
AGAINST SYSTEMS AND ATTITUDES
AND PRACTICES THAT ARE NOT
ALWAYS DEALT WITH BY THE
LEGISLATION.
NOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
LEGISLATIVE SET BACKES.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THE VETTING
RIGHTS ACT, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS
INVALIDATED BY THE SUPREME COURT
AND I THINK THAT THE EFFORTS TO
FIX THAT IN CONGRESS ARE VERY
IMPORTANT, BUT I CAN’T RECALL A
TIME BETWEEN THEN AND NOW WHERE
I HAVE FELT THAT WE MIGHT BE
TAKING A GIANT STEP, A GIANT
STEP TOWARD A FAIRER AND MORE
JUST NATION AND REALLY THE BIG
REASON FOR ME IS THE DIVERSITY
OF THE AMERICANS WHO HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN THIS OUTPOURING, THE
FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I WENT DOWN
TO THE PROTESTS IN WASHINGTON
AND I JUST SAW KIND OF CROWDS
THAT I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE AT
A SOCIAL JUSTICE PROTEST.
I DIDN’T SEE THEM GARNER, AFTER
THE HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS.
AND SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TIME
AND MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE, BECAUSE
IT’S A TIME OF SUCH DISRUPTION
STEMMING FROM THE ECONOMIC
CRISIS, MAYBE PEOPLE WERE MORE
OPEN TO SEEING THE WORLD IN A
DIFFERENT LIGHT RIGHT NOW THAN
THEY ARE NORMALLY, BUT IT’S BEEN
A LONG, LONG TIME SINCE I’VE HAD
THIS KIND OF OPTIMISM ABOUT A
REAL STEP FORWARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WONDER
IS WHETHER ALL OF THIS WOULD
HAVE HAPPENED AND FOMENTED HAD
IT NOT BEEN FOR CORONAVIRUS.
WE HAD AN IMMENSE PRESSURE THAT
THE PANDEMIC HAS PUT ON
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, BUT WE
ALSO HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE STAYING
AT HOME, OUT OF WORK.
IT GAVE PEOPLE A LOT OF TIME TO
HIT THE STREETS AND--
>> IT SURE DID.
>> AND BETWEEN THE TIME AND
ANGER THEY WERE ALREADY FEELING
AND THE FRUSTRATION OVER THE
PANDEMIC, THAT ALL KIND OF ADDED
INTO THE KETTLE, DIDN’T IT?
>> OH, IT CERTAINLY DID.
PEOPLE, YES, HAD A LOT OF TIME
ON THEIR HAND, HAD A LOT OF
FRUSTRATION AND AWNINGER THAT
CAME FROM THE PANDEMIC AND THE
ECONOMIC CRISIS.
AND ALSO, I JUST THINK HAVING
SEEN THE WHOLE SOCIETY UP-ENDED
BY THE DISEASE AND THE ECONOMIC
CRISIS, WE’RE OPEN TO THE
POSSIBILITY OF BIG CHANGE, I
THINK.
PERHAPS IN A WAY THAT NORMALLY
PEOPLE ARE NOT.
NORMALLY, PEOPLE WERE -- YOU
KNOW, THEY GET UP, GO TO WORK
AND GET HOME AND WORRY ABOUT
THEIR FAMILIES AND WORRY ABOUT
THEIR ROUTINES.
NOBODY HAS A ROUTINE ANYMORE,
ROUTINES ARE OUT THE WINDOW.
SO MAYBE THAT DID CREATE A
CERTAIN SORT OF RECEPTIVENESS TO
NEW MESSAGES AND NEW IDEAS.
>> YOU’D LIKE TO SEE ALL OF
EUGENE’S REMARKS AND OUR Q & A,
WE PUT THAT LINK ON
CLICKONDETROIT.COM AND OUR FLASH
POINT PAGE.
MORE IN A MOMENT.
WE’RE GOING TO MEET RONA.
BACK IN A MOMENT.
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AS THE
AS THE
BACKBONE OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY
AND SOME OF THEM ARE BEING--
HAVING A SURVIVABILITY CRISIS
THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
RECOVER FROM.
>> YOU KNOW, DEVIN, I DON’T
THINK I HAVE A NO FROM ANY OF
THE BUSINESSES THAT I ASKED.
NOW, THEY WERE LARGER BUSINESSES
BECAUSE I THINK THEY’RE MORE
CAPABLE OF GIVING, BUT THE
GENEROSITY DURING A TOUGH TIME
WAS REALLY GRATIFYING, BUT YOU
ARE RIGHT.
THAT THIS HAS BEEN TOUGHEST ON
SMALL BUSINESS.
AND PARTICULARLY, ON THE SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT AREN’T YET OPEN
AND THEY EXIST.
THE STATE HAD HOPED THAT THOSE
BUSINESSES COULD REOPEN WHEN OUR
CASES DROPPED SO LOW IN JUNE,
BUT THEN THEY RAN BACK UP.
I KNOW THE STATE IS LOOKING AT
THEM AGAIN AND WE NEED TO DO
THAT.
BUT IT CLEARLY HAS BEEN HARDEST
THERE.
>> WELL, I KNOW YOU CAN BE
LOATHE TO BE POLITICAL
SOMETIMES, BUT I AM CURIOUS, IF
YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE FOR ME
HOW YOU FEEL LIKE THE GOVERNOR
HAS HANDLED THIS WITH RESPECT TO
BUSINESSES BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE
HAVE SEEN SOME REAL
INCONSISTENCIES IN THE PRIMACY
OF SOME BUSINESSES, FOR EXAMPLE,
CASINOS, OVER OTHERS, GYMS.
>> WELL, I, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE
BEEN LEADING A COLLECTION OF
HEALTH CARE LEADERS.
>> YEAH.
>> AND PUBLIC HEALTH LEADERS AND
BUSINESS LEADERS AND SO FORTH,
AND I CAN JUST SAY THAT THE
ATTITUDE IN THAT GROUP HAS NOT
BEEN POLITICAL, IT’S NOT BEEN
ABOUT CRITICISM, IT’S ALL ABOUT
REALIZING THAT THIS IS A REALLY
DIFFICULT, COMPLEX SITUATION FOR
OUR STATE AND FOR OUR GOVERNOR.
SO WE’VE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON
TRYING TO GIVE HER THE BEST
INSIGHT AND ADVICE THAT WE CAN.
NOBODY WILL WORK THEIR WAY
THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS
WITHOUT MISTAKES, BUT THAT’S
BEEN THE FEEL OF THE GROUP I’VE
BEEN WORKING WITH.
>> AND YOU FEEL YOU’VE BEEN
LISTENED TO?
BECAUSE SOME HAVE CRITICIZED THE
GOVERNOR, SOME FEEL LIKE IN A
BUBBLE?
>> NO, WE HAVE BEEN LISTENED TO.
ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE HEART OF
IT, VERY REGULAR CONFERENCES AND
WE SAW HER LISTEN.
>> JERRY ANDERSON, GOOD TO TALK
TO YOU AGAIN.
THANKS FOR BEING ON FLASH POINT.
HOPE TO BE IN PERSON SOON.
>> I HOPE SO, TOO.
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