This is microphone check hip hop from
NPR music, I'm Frannie Kelly I'm Ali Shaheed
Muhammad. I'm Vincent Staples.What up, Mr. Staples? How you doing, man?
Good, man. Look — it's funny what you just did,
cause — I'm going to fall in right now and say it — we been trying to get you here for
two years.That's true. That makes no sense. It makes perfect sense. I saw you in the last years I been here.
You came with Earl.  Yeah. We wanted you solo. But we wanted you solo. And
I think that was — was that before Earl? It was before Earl. So, you know, your
manager's a good, long-time friend of mine. I did give him the press and, to
to speak up for him, he had a plan already. He explained that to me,
and I respect his business, so I was like, "Cool." But I didn't think it would take two years
to get you into the seat. But I will say you guys gave us First Listen,
so that's a hell of a thank you. That was solely based off of you.
I'm not playing. At all. We were in the office and Gabe was like, "Yeah, we're going to do this NPR
first listening I think it's never
really works it was First Listen thing." I was like, "Isn't that where Ali works?" They was like, "Yeah." And I said,
"Alright." Thank you. That — well, I was just sitting around, watching all the other
go down. I was like, "OK. There has to be a reason." And that's a great
— thank you. Don't thank me. I just — they need to thank you.
Agreed.It's doing really well. Like, traffic-wise and engagement-wise and
everything, so thank you.  Yeah, it's great, man. I had a spike in pre-sales. Yeah
that's that NPR bump. NPR bump. It's real.  Spike in any sales is crazy.
I would like to start with Corey, actually, if that's possible.
I read an interview with you where you said that you weren't even taking
rapping seriously until you met him? I mean, not really. It was like, after.
I didn't really care when I met him either. It was after certain things
unfolded. He was definitely the stepping stone as far as how — that led to
that path.
I knew Corey for about year before I cared. Like year and a half before I was like
"Alright. I'ma do this." Then after two years, I was like, "Alright. I'ma stop playing." OK. But how did you
I was just around. A few people I was working with at the time —
the most important would be Michael Uzowuru, great friend of mine
— we were in the right place right time kind of situation. And one of Michael's,
I guess, collaborators was telling Corey that he should work with Michael
and Corey started working with both of us at that point in time. And I
kind of kept it going. And when you were talking to Corey about Vince, what was
the — how did he describe him?
How did I describe him?  No, how did Corey describe him to you? He didn't really.
I just knew about Vince, and I knew that he was repping him. So I just wanted to
He was really excited about Vince. And we talked
about production as well, and he was saying that Vince was very specific and had a particular
sound and an idea of what he wanted to do. And so that was
as most as the conversation went on that.
Yeah, you called me from the studio. Yeah.I think you stepped outside and you were like,
"Book this guy." And I was like, "I have been trying." I'm sorry about that. It's not my fault.
No. It's —I'm very very — when it's outside the numbers – you know,
everyone around me tells me to make sure I don't spend my money, make sure nobody
takes my money. So, you know, besides that, I have no mind for business at all
when it comes to certain things. Like, I don't even have to pay attention to that stuff.
I'm lucky corny and Corey called me in
the morning like a makes you here at
this time I find that well after being
in it for so long that there's two sides
to that that's a great thing from a
creative perspective and from really
having a your own sort of landscape of
way you want want to go what you want to
do and so you can really kind of like
have the experience fill it out know
what you want
to change and I have all these out other
additional things you have to worry
about so but that you have to have the
right people in place or dad to work
that's what I'm saying if you don't get
the right people in place you can go get
a little richard and not a different
thing was to size because even having
the right people then that sometimes if
you leave it so much to them at some
point you know there may be aspects that
you miss out on and it's not that
they're not trying to you know they do
that thing they are but actually then
they might not know this all about guys
yes teamwork makes the you know
situation works for you and you're in
good company and what you know that will
be chilly me how do you know quite why
you guys friend because of de los whole
ok ya can tell like my arm I don't look
at me Chris like we have to bring Corey
and I feel kind of like you know what
you're talking about the man and he's
just like how she come in
yeah yes Michael quiet in here
cozy another word for I don't think that
Mike is on so if you guys could share
cool oh it's like this one you could be
there
asian miss Sally what's up Cory I'm good
man I'm in a good space very happy to
see you and happy to see the fences here
and this has been good man it's been a
long haul but we are arriving that's
what I feel like I'm just hanging out it
is hang out the right places that the
best part
there's air conditioning Oh at least so
tell the story of how you guys right
yeah i'm metalia when i started working
with daily so yeah I was literally was
at 90 stakes I yeah States album
planning . Panama right planning yeah on
a right next to the Rockets back in the
day and i started managing de la Sol way
around
time and I was brought into the fold
through a very unique meeting I a native
tongue meeting have no oh my god hit a
very big and weird gives mr. Smith
native tongue meeting actually yeah yeah
whatever is very great that is great
tips to witness that more my god we got
about that i'm shaking your head of you
heard this story I don't know what name
you know what de los talleres because MF
DOOM into the burg and Nike SB yeah okay
so what was the meeting I was just you
know guys are trying to make things
happen at that point I'm then some
things happen somethings didn't but it
was a big meeting
don't forget it i just forget to make
things so you know sometimes it's
comforting forgetting things and then
you know like a totally forgot about
that meeting i'm like all this because
now you just opened up a whole memory
bank over here that was just like cool
we we dealt with it and now I'm like oh
yeah that was that was a very important
meeting and was greatly am I supposed to
know what happened in this meeting
no one is no one is yes let's say like
that no one saw some hose hasn't had a
meeting but it's the fact the fact that
I think that I we're all young you know
and that was the best thing for me and i
always tell Vince him having me at this
age versus the age i was there i would
have been different in that maybe when i
was $DAY i wasn't i was kind of in awe
because I'm fans of all of them but you
know people just trying to organize
lives in business in a structure that's
not really a structure at that moment
and its unique and part of the
conversation earlier about the creative
and how Vince feels very free to be
created which is a great thing you know
especially at 21 about to be 22 but
there's a business side to it as Ali was
saying that you have to start thinking
about at some point in time and he's
there he doesn't know he thinks about it
that way because he's very very
particular about everything so he's not
going to ever be tilted but that meeting
was about creative with business and it
was
just uh it you know i don't think the
business ever grew the native tongue
business and grow and cut off it could
have been something phenomenal the fact
that a 21-year ok who makes great music
knows about the individuals but doesn't
about the collective speaks to the
business that didn't happen
sure well my first conversation with you
I got the sense that you know exactly
what you were doing and I didn't ask the
crazy part about it
well well from the sense that I think
creatively you did creatively speaking
you gave me that impression and very
strong and it seemed like you you had
certain ideas as to what you wanted to
go and maybe you don't see that but I
saw that clearly how many years ago was
that
22 i had not doing I was doing did you
know what you probably do that
yeah now see that I know what I didn't
want to do that no idea what I'll do
that's enough
I figured that out like blood October
yeah I September i'm dead i'm so so I do
you remember that moment
yeah what happened oh you know you look
at some you don't know what it is we
found it and so that's there goes what
that was in Toronto if you start we may
have to lose weight beat was already go
and all thy will be done like a weekend
course I'm sure is yeah and we're doing
a week but knowing what you don't like
is knowing which is kinda like a low
yeah yeah I now now that you said that
understanding which gets taken yeah for
sure dunno don't know what's really
think about it at that time which I
figure other things but yeah it makes it
what were you trying to figure out live
my life is important part
this isn't the important part again
music that will never matter
what life so life is the important part
that's the priority in music on second
and third columns you know the
connection the music in you know money
and fame and fortune and notoriety is
like 15,000 at least 20 others on to me
that's the last thing I care about
but don't you think the life stuff or
have have you noticed that when the live
stuff gets correct the music is better
no because music never better or worse
just is what it is that i'm ok i don't
don't--i anything internet our fuse of
label anything is good or bad because so
like early Wednesday music problems
which I'll never list which i think is
horrible i saw that she was trashed i
was being a lazy and take advantage of
situations and be like hey I can be over
here in galaxy on troubled waters make
song okay what's this all about was his
beak okay there you go leave me alone
i'm over here thousand the whole purpose
of certain things that first thing I'm
smarter than you know
then the cycle of thing but on
I mean if it's me if life is really
really bad that means gonna be really
been really really good
it had me music is really good some
people make their best musical life is
horrible
some people lose sense of what their
music was when life starts to get back
so just still to build on this point
because i had something written down
I don't want to give you some works NV
hoarding stickups dubious orphan
solitude or you can trade that for
deserted famine anger in the nation and
penitentiary maternity wards what's good
get all depends on your perspective
because if the penitentiary is wrong in
the first place then the tourney Warren
is pointless but if you know if the
potential with the pin centuries
potentially good then of course they can
have kids and you're in a safe and
sanitary that's a good thing but why are
there in the first place so it could be
good or bad stick-up do okay that part's
really need that money you really that
many are there kids going to be okay if
you take from there are you guys gonna
be okay if you don't take for it how
about this was always angry you look at
things from another really good or bad
at the day we make all this stuff up
ask you those things because i feel that
some of your music talks about just
embodiment of just those words it makes
me wonder I keep landed two what's good
so it's I like hearing you say you don't
look at it as things are bad things are
good
it's all about circumstances and
circumstances dictate your set of values
u-17 world so that's really what it
comes down to
because with circumstances changes the
way you look at things because that's
that's that defines everyday so with
regards to the music then the music at
one point in time was a place where you
can get an education you can be inspired
you cannot be taught how to look at your
life in the know regardless of the
surroundings being challenged or not
that you can have a sense of pride in
yourself and it seems to be kind of a
feeling that's lost in the music and I
get the sense that you want to bring
back something where people can really
be taught from from your music my wrong
and that makes sense that definitely
makes its just I mean is it all depends
how you look at it like that's
definitely what music is about anymore
at least from the way i do it like the
way the people in my job or whatever
they call those things now his own
divine against somebody gives a petition
and
that's what it was about four basically
everybody was it about for you even
notice about it's like against i'm
serious i don't know what i want to i
literally don't think about those things
I don't think about the thing it's like
i'm here already
that's what I'm gonna do it was that
quit on like this stuff tiny percentage
of time actually I don't I don't I don't
I do not have fun with this stuff
because you don't you don't get I like
life is their purpose
everybody has a purpose is not updated
financial so I'm figuring out as a week
10 we don't nothing we don't know
anything
we only know we're told the fact we all
got convinced that money means something
doesn't it means everybody stupid to be
. we're off we're all stupid because we
let somebody make something and say this
is what means everything
so what makes you think we know about
the world that's outside of us or what
would our life when I've been thinking
about life or paying taxes
m for what why why do any of these
things exist you make a house to sell it
to get money that somebody makes an
office somewhere good questions . if you
take money out of if you take money out
of everything if if there's no such
thing as money which changes we still
have the animals to make the food we
still have you know the resources to
build these things huh
we still have what we need to make make
these Sciences another type stuff the
stuff is made up
nothing nothing changes i think except
for the higher consciousness of mankind
which we keep missing because we get
stumped by that that thing we focused on
how we think we supposed to be focused
on we're not reaches of fact that money
like not being popular being better than
the next person is what the world is
based on I don't like who cares around
double cares buy anything if you want to
be home designs know you care about what
benefits you the most
no matter what you do that but that's
the way that were made its way we were
raised up to care about what benefits
that's the most so when it comes to
thinking of it i don't i don't have to
try not to think about stuff like that
because it goes against what I know I
respect that because i'm known that it
is matters at the end of the day I know
not even not even 90 probably gonna set
up the system time half the people that
listen to music listen to what to say
they listen to your music for no other
reason say oh yeah like this but why
what did you do for you have to buy of
music do it to support you have do it to
say they did it so they're not even
stealing so that they feel better about
themselves and most people that do
listen to music steal it but they love
you to death
that doesn't make any sense to me like
this whole ordeal doesn't make any sense
i mean you read our creatives you know
you're in staples blah blah you know ye
will be bobbing on Def Jam Records one
must try to make radio record so and we
see his two attempts on this song a song
what does that even mean
what is the radio that somebody else
playing a song
why do you have to try to do that what
kind of sense does that make that makes
no sense yeah people just throw their
own spending life and but you stuff
which is a lot it's not connected or
based off of anything real in that what
you're saying exactly what I'm saying is
nothing matters at the end of the day to
ninety percent of the people that walked
the face of this earth where you have
the special ones and you know that
they're crazy when you think about
somebody who's funny i was talking about
own my girls brothers artistic and I
rather he's been on Barris probably like
by 67 probably majority of my life and
she's online mentally challenged people
how people feel bad for and that's just
always funny to me like why do you feel
bad for them they don't have to deal
with issues that they're happy they
don't know about any things we have to
deal with and they're living their life
smaller face when they said they're
saying they have their happiness all is
as often that way by the habit
why do we should feel bad for us don't
but it's it's a sense of we leave it's
always so lost
we don't know any of this stuff means we
don't care to find out some of us don't
care
we gotta think about the majority rules
that's that that's the life that we set
up a bit
that's why we vote
hey family my friends my family my
friends my keys
write your brand we got something
follow me on arches you're fucking my
being a bump in my young shit because
they suck on that ground leaving for
that your religion is brush it has been
on the mac with a locally flat meet you
at focus my nigga just talking trying to
paint your picture we stuck in the
moment my burning it's looking for
shooting too much so a nigga resorted to
tell me that somebody somebody wanted me
gone baby either going to be hurting me
crabs in a bucket he call me cramps are
shouting in front of Douglas I cannot be
fucking joking . i'm at my friends my
family my friends my mom would mean the
world that you is advanced by morning
clouds fucking he's out of the woods
murder photo we named her weight when
the courage club nigga call one case
night child's speech get a full clip
girls gasp beach when the whole wretched
company shooting no rec center with
Florida ready still banging 292 next to
fuck the ponies they won't catch my
feature too fragile going to go out of
my bag females fighting protec mask up
midnight star classics Christ it's like
now
family my friends my family my friends
my family meeting my brother's my people
imma let me and my brother got a point
based off that perspective the majority
that does rule doesn't rule me so that's
my personal belief is like this is back
you see my writer is right is from the
reality the fact that we even dabbled in
Ryder all is wrong in the first place
but is it wrong because it brings order
is order right are we supposed to have
ward and why does not focus on the
reality of the situation if you look at
the news all these people died and how
things are happening is never based on
the reality of the situation it's based
on what people think you're right and
wrong all that is based on opinion when
things are based on opinion the popular
painting wins that's why it's called the
popular opinion so in that sense we
always gonna be fun because I all you
need to do
Hitler got people to think he was right
absolutely do you think no no one
thought that they were wrong
that's the crazy part about no one
thought that they were wrong
the terrorists that preceded that handle
911 you know the Boston bombing these
people never think they're wrong
we don't think we're wrong we go blow up
elementary schools looking for one
person to spare lives of soldiers so we
throw a bomb in a school because
somebody's hiding it not think about the
lives of dollars to but it's right in
our it's right to us but it's wrong to
them what kind of sense does that should
make it doesn't make sense but at the
same time these things I think are done
to make us reflect and if you take a
moment to reflect
that's all you need to do is start the
question and if try to be on that
journey to figure out what what the
purpose is but okay not nothing but most
people don't take that moment because it
will be when you had that moment
well nowadays yeah and this this century
like with all this and it's not nice is
past that before that you wake up you
wake up you see your mom go to work you
go to school
you come home you hate your life some
more you go back to school
your friend has a birthday party his
house is bigger than yours now you can
out and he can never come to your house
because you live in the back of your
aunt's house across from the or finery
in a gang-infested neighborhood where
everyone is related to you
so you're embarrassed about that you go
home do your homework your mom comes
home makes nothing trying to figure out
how to make you not realize that your
poor because where i live at the state
that i live at apartment bad
neighborhoods 800 900 hours a month for
a one-bedroom that's a lot of money if
you get paid minimum wage
no but your kid has to happen I shoes
because he has to do with the other kids
or you gotta go to school where they
have the uniforms you have to pay for
that too late not really running from
anything
so you spend your whole life trying to
catch up to something that you don't
know why you're chasing and trying and
trying to disguise your case for
something that they already noticed
based on their own interactions
that's the beginning of life that's
before you have bills as a kid before
you have to pay taxes as before your
elderly you know you can take care of
yourself
so my question is with all these things
in your way before the phones before
interaction with other people that could
be negative you trying to scramble for
no reason apparent reason when you have
the time to sit down and think this
before the internet I think that depends
on based off of that environment you
describe that depends on who else is it
around an environment because if it's
just completely like that then you don't
have time but if you have someone who
can just say you know what let me just
pull you over here and talk to even if I
talk to you for five minutes to give you
a vision of the world that doesn't exist
in front of you that it's not tangible
to you but just enough to open up your
mind to that if you don't have that then
you're going to be behind but if you
have someone to do that then your
journey then shifts and make the time
that's like that's less than later
because don't get that that's not really
sure so you're supposed to get that at
school but when you open up the history
book you're a slave so just get that in
general I for school yeah what we do
that was as if that's not happening
correct like is right wrong way out
there at the reality situation is brings
me to
your record your record when you have a
song lift me up
who are you talking to me can I just
clarify one thing did you or did you not
have that person never in my life so he
did it without that person know he had
those people out I mean listen I'm not
gonna try to disagree with him in his
interview but there are people that he
pays attention whether they were
speaking directly to him he pays enough
attention that he was able to grab a lot
more i always say i said to my mother
you know I was like you know Vince's a
drop out of high school right
you would never tell me if he went
through someone had taken the time at
those formative years to give him that
type of attention where he would have
been here i'm glad he's here he's all
with purpose but he clearly could have
done anything with the proper focus i
think his purposes was was how do i say
this your support what your journey
whatever it is it's a full purpose and
where it will be fulfilling when I first
met you I felt that and even something
that you said one of your other
interviews you said you don't want to be
wrapping your 45 and based off of your
words I felt that you wanted to have a
relationship and influence with children
you know for the next generation of
people who didn't have what you did not
have you know likewise where you can
offer them that thing that you did not
have so that gave me a sense that
somewhere in your your journey there was
an anointing so when you say you don't
have that probably didn't but something
along the line I think was had planted
us a seat and giving your vision and i
would say what that was
ok ok i will not at a very young age I
can look at people until that everyone
was was was in the sense worthless in
their own mind and you can't you
couldn't trust anyone know it was good
my mom wasn't good my dad wasn't good my
grandmother wasn't good
my grandfather was good to me but if you
act around he done some stuff
no one's good or bad and then I
understand will it was a trick i don't
use any fucking trip and at a young gay
so it's like that
fucking body if i don't talk to any of
my family members and I've never liked
him
cousins aunts uncles I don't don't
dabble in that type of stuff and my
whole thing was i'm not i'm i'm i'm
gonna figure out for myself in a selfish
way it wasn't a negative point of view
so my whole thing was I must figure out
as much as i can to stay alive as long
as i can because niggas like me get
killed
that's my grandfather talking before it
before he died his niggas like you get
killed
they have only had to say one cares
where my whole life and it was that one
mm what do you mean like you I don't
know what that means but I tried to make
sure that I was by myself I you from the
ground I've been for my neighbor for
very long time I don't kick it with a
lot of my people and they let me to
death
how come when i come on why that I've
never fell into the I never fell into
the way we're dressing like this right
now let's do this weekend look I don't
trust people because people don't
control their self-control what they
think and I don't control i think too
large of a lot of things i could I think
are based off my of my emotional things
I've seen that's nice controlling their
innocence but people are controlled by
the words of others and the accident
others if someone if someone tells you
that this wall is is pink and you know
it's not for the right person if you're
told that enough you're going to start
to believe it yourself based on the
needs of acceptance and i never needed
that like this is that this is that I
don't care and that hurt me more than
ever help me trust me more than ever
help me is there is hurt me
I mean things i like is it separates you
from people
yeah I don't want to listen anybody but
my question is I'm sitting right here
right now but shit I what do you mean
should have listened to it because I
wouldn't be right here friday that's why
i said exactly what this is about but
this is my question is my question
majority of people don't get here and
it's not about me at any never will be
so it's about this design look at life
this around my father and that's life
you have
to deal with whatever you do with long
enough to stay alive and in a workout
that's for everybody
you have to wait in go through wherever
you go through for the right amount of
time until you can figure it out and
that's really what it comes down to
no matter who you are you can miss those
opportunities about not paying attention
by giving up because it's it's it's it's
not fair
whether it's not supposed to be but I
don't never not ever looked up the
invite list anybody's words and I know
who that's a lot of people don't know
who I know exactly who I might act like
i do what I know everyone I can talk and
tell you can tell a lot about the right
way to shake your hand look at you
that's all I saw you need to know so I'm
I've never had anyone look up to because
why would i look with a quarter come
from everyone's pretending they're not
said it's not necessarily about having
someone look up so I think that's great
but what I'm saying is just have someone
to just show you that there's another
side of the world that may not be
revealed to you but you have to
understand is that majority those people
don't know majority of people don't know
there's no sign of the world well i know
that but and what you guys think about
the way the way the way that this world
is set up you have to pay a lot of money
to catch a flight
you have to pay for a passport he got
this country you gotta pay to get on the
bus so you can pay for them
45 bus rides gonna take to get out of
the city how you gonna know what else is
out there i'm talking before this is
before the internet before twitter
tumblr we had myspace when I was already
in high school is too late about it i
think to your point prolly like maybe
the kind of the craziest thing that is
like you didn't have that but what if
you are that for somebody else exactly
exactly but that's I mean I was all
about sacrifice but what I can promise
you is that all the things in the am ia
people think I'm negative i'm talking
about what I can literally promise you
all the things that people think help
get people are these situations are
non-existent weren't coming from and
it's not existing where I come from
because it's in the middle it's not wats
it's not Beverly Hills
there are no reforms for long beach
because there are people that houses
cost six million dollars by the water
but that's less than four miles
altogether and you got Forestry and Fire
street but you don't go over there buses
don't run that way you got a notice that
your nose there but when you put out
that big piece of paper and they do you
know the consensus to see who lives
where and how much money here and what
percentage of the race it is they see
that is always the the no black Hispanic
Asian Pacific Islander an agent are the
minority but we've never seen the
majority because a majority is crammed
up but you still make enough money to
the point is all that's a feasible place
well more for me alone has high rate
high you know that one of the highest
fucking of the Grand Theft Auto rates in
the United States high murder rate is no
one cares because they're just crazy
because it's nice over there you what
I'm saying and you gotta think about
despair too . you get to look at the
beach every day and somebody's house is
four stories going to school with no
money in your pocket so okay that's
there was not supposed to have it its
it's whose are they going to come talk
to you know they're not going to come
talk to you why would they talk to you
with the boys and girls club Boys and
Girls Clubs go play basketball
don't steal anything so you have this
platform in coming from that witnessing
all of that not feeling it you know like
it's it's it's it's part of your DNA so
to speak and so you have this platform
now i think it's an important platform
especially at this time in this age .
we're with all that's going on
specifically in America we can make be
inclusive globally but let's just keep
it down to the local level of long beach
or the local level of California there's
so much happening and you have this
platform that talk to them talk to the
world but you can talk to them up
what when you have a song like lift me
up again I go back to that whole you
talking to I'm talking to myself okay
because you have so you can talk to
people all day but it's all internal to
me and pass that fact you can have all
the platform the world was up to the
people to accept it if they don't accept
it doesn't matter innocent and that's
the saddest part especially nowadays
because it's so much to accept so to the
point and it is something so many
roadblocks especially for Long Beach
light even in California's let us do for
a bigger and bigger thing is cut in half
is already cool be a crap so we're not
listening to that pass that in long
beach all equal be from nachos we not
listening to that because it's too late
for a lot of people and that's why it's
about it's not about right now but we
are dead and gone because my whole thing
is after what will grow into everybody
is a history book that's what Roland is
because your introduction to yourself is
you being worthless
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
I'm just good its July feel my back and
then I missed the bigger they follow me
one shot me
I feel like me riches they feel like
money wider so chummy
the difference so tell me what's the
difference my mom was a christian prayer
walk in number wider was fading nothing
baby you're walking back to bomb the
floor like you we partner on cng
chaplain so tell me what's the
difference
so tell me what's the difference like I
feel like fuck this action they raping
you
dragons and we don't get knowledge just
photo copy of inches like Moses and most
shot
for real
this is like my god they staring into
China way to still a bloody chopsticks
shoulda brought the chapter 14 driving
in the track it
like Jeffrey Dahmer buddy
let me crazy will we put lemon said the
brachet see this way it is on my
shoulders spread your home with me
never overfill approaches fix me I just
wanted
yeah in the mud
always what it seems so please
yeah
leave me leave me
me
that depends on your teachers got any
but I understand what you're saying
for those teachers correct fail you my
teachers are different so but and I know
we come from two different and it's like
music like this just like Russian
roulette and it's like Russian Roulette
insist that it might only be one bullet
in that gun em but it's still one bullet
in that gun at the way you speaking it
makes me feel like someone should just
hit the button right now blow the whole
thing up so and I don't and I don't get
the sense that that's really what you're
saying in your music
Vince so what I'm saying my music is
this is what i see good luck
ok that's all my music is my music is
unless fixed days because in a sense
part of me is like no don't fix nothing
i had to go through it and somebody else
got a deal to another have is always not
fair but that happens live who cares if
it's not fair they don't care why should
I care if you let everybody getting but
it's all it's all it's all conflicts
within people because we all we all have
different ways of thinking ways of
looking at things but I don't know what
it is that's messed up I don't know it
is this outfield as well I think you
guys I'm not thinking about songs
I'm not sitting here like you know this
should be this never I'll never foresaw
that is why i don't need to start my job
my job is not for the radio my job is
not for you know sales my job is to keep
my sanity . i can't do nothing else I
never got a bad grade in my lifetime .
school and I wasn't in great because i
saw what it was first time I got
arrested was for nothing
I'll just say it was for i was in court
for hours in corporate three years I was
a quarter-on-quarter 13 face before
felonies for what for a aggravated
assault threatening a witness armed
robbery in some other crazy shit but it
was all based off
did you steal this phone from this kid
no axe him know ex-girlfriend is no
you're going to jail because they're
scared of you
we got a court and just as I don't even
know why these charges are brought up
what happened to playing dirty my mom
and my mom out of fear was like whatever
I don't have to pay for a given that em
all out of fear
everybody is confused so it's not a safe
flight is no saving this the the people
other than me if you like just wanna
come from past 25 you can't really do
too much to alter my thing is for my
little brother was 15 years old and I 15
years based on what he saw on the books
based on based on that we're telling
because we can we we SAT there all day
and told him don't do this don't do this
don't do this but the history shows that
this is where we got where we are this
is this is where the pride comes from so
don't you let me in jail right now for
attempted murder but based on what we
see on paper that when i say the books i
mean literally like like literally
schoolbooks just tell Marta cycle
exactly because I want my brothers from
here my cousin I want to be from here
here they're known to do this we don't
do that no more
but no because I don't want to be a part
of your worries i want to be a part of
what goes down in history
this music is laid out in the sense of
in 20 years on people acts who was that
person because i'm not gonna be the same
as i'm now in 20 years
I'm 21 years old i wanted to i want
because when I really look back and
looking like people that we were that we
look all the cup to look at look at that
jay-z I don't know who jay-z was when he
first came up i know he rapping used to
sell drugs
that's all I know I don't know anything
about 90 not was smart and he rapped he
lived in the projects we don't know
anything we don't know how these people
felt in a sense of what they became but
because it wasn't always to document it
no I mean it was harder for the 44
people to become it's hard for us as far
as rappers to kind of lay our stuff in
the way that a David Bowie
because we know his whole life story in
a way to Kurt Cobain did in a way that
but that's what's important
why why is it harder because now it was
shut up in rap from the way the way that
this business will set up the way that
it was you know it wasn't saturated was
now village it was it was just different
man like that it was if there were
different types of people in this is
because even when we speak about you
know de los halls and most and all these
other people the people that definitely
have message conveyed convey things and
inappropriate way I still don't know who
they were because I wasn't there and in
music I think like we gotta do it you
gotta think about what i feel like i
want for music I don't really care about
that much money so I'm able to know the
girls college will be fine as long as
I'm able to own know take care of my
family my little stuff I don't like
being bothered by people who had don't
know you have to have a reason to do
what you do and my whole region's when I
was growing up already i read the books
and i got older i saw that Oliver was
fake from front street to music to the
government to my family to my parents so
all of it was not real
which books life in a sense that hope
Tookie Williams in this and then your
grandfather your father your mind
minutes and then you go by what you know
you wanted to do this shit
so what's your reason that you said to
have something in those books and say
how do you feel about yourself because
you're the biggest shit in the world and
it's not just a nigga cuz that's the
reality of the situation when it passes
us and that's the problem but no one
wants to think about that reality of the
situation
so how do we break the cycle
it's not about breaking the cycle is
about letting down and started know what
you can continue it because it gets
continue people are still rapping about
selling cocaine and crack is 2015 let's
go find a crack here right now
it's gonna be very very hard we might
find five today so so but but if that's
the cycle repeated because that's what
we're taught this is what rappers do
because I say this in these interviews
and i run across these people and they
look at me like all you motherfuckers
i'll be talking about this that but it's
like they know is true
no one's doing anymore why are we
telling these kids that's what we're
doing you're not you're not doing that
you can make about forty fifty thousand
year if you're not the biggest rapper
you make a 20,000 every shipment if
you're selling cocaine why are you
wrapping because we're talking that's
what we have to do to be important and
that's the problem the problem is we're
telling these kids that we have to be
these wrong things to be important but
they don't know what you go through when
you really do it and I'm trying to get
that part of the story because that's
never been told I don't care who says
they told it special where I come from
what I'm not a drug dealer
I'm not that I did the gang thing and
I've never heard it be told right so
then again i say your purpose is major
and you're proving me right even though
i'm not saying you're wrong i'm not
saying you're wrong saying now because I
feel that I think part of this
conversation one could take away from it
that you're like man is this everything
is a lie it's all there's no fixing it
just like we over and even when you say
everything should just die off so it's
just like men its kind of grip
Adam Adam Adam Adam me fix it what I say
is don't you don't try to face you just
get rid of that idea right in in in
total
let's sit down and let's be honest I
don't mean let it die of it lately music
diver lately I wasn't taking it from you
they are taking like just to the things
in life that are not real the things in
life that prevent us from reaching
higher higher self things in life that
is so pressing and keeping people in
those situations like wait where you
come from
so what I'm saying is
that has to die
I feel that's what you're talking about
definitely because like in it it's it's
it's bigger than where I come from is
funny i was talking about talking to my
friends and I was like man you think you
think all this you know other things I
keep happening with a great relationship
like you think it's ever going to be
over as I know there's always gonna be
your argument because you're you're
you're trying to force people to relate
to things they have nothing they know
nothing about that thing about this this
is my question and i understand it
race plays a part in everything I
understand that you know money plays a
part everything understand that
situation and family play a part in
everything but when someone dies and
you're looking you you're looking at the
face of a white person and saying they
just killed a black man and you expect
them to relate to that
that's a problem because they don't know
what it's like to be a black man they
never will they can't they can pretend
they do all that's wrong you don't know
what that feels like
we remove all they just killed a person
they just killed a father they just
killed the week that's in the back
burner
we want we we tend to separate ourselves
in search for quality in his past race
we want to separate ourselves will be
held in the same regardless of people
we're trying to disconnect ourselves
from within hip hop music we want to be
the biggest shit ever but we don't want
to take responsibility for the things
that we say who we want to pop sales and
the pop marketing and a pop-up
advertisements but you refused to not
say certain things who refuse are not
over glorified glorified drug culture
but we want to be equal but at the end
of the day if we strip all these things
and let all these things off as far as
the labeling and then the
miscommunication and we all start in the
sense of where all people and this is my
perspective on the life that we all live
will be a much better space i agree with
you and I feel like you at this time .
again I go back to it with the state of
hip hop to me is it's upsetting for
someone like me I know I know what my
blood sweat and tears have done for this
busy genre and for the culture of
humanity and mankind and it is extremely
frustrating sometimes sitting in my
chair knowing the power that other
rappers have and how its abused and not
just from the the platform of a wrap but
just the platform of humanity and so
hearing you say this warms my heart my
spirit and can't wait for summer time to
drop 06 yeah it'll be fun
yeah i think so how do you feel about
your your day come
okay I'll say it like this you say
please don't steal my music Obama music
your album drops the same day Apple
drops the music service we know right so
it's streaming a form of stealing the
listeners not stealing i'll say that
love that answer because we don't get a
lot of money
no we get what is it . oh yeah your old
to your in the points since sauce like
one listen was like yeah but they're not
maybe they don't they don't make the
rules they just want to hear the music
and that goes into what this whole
business set up being I mean it's like
if you know if a player could eventually
by a team the NBA will be in bad shape
right now what what is the projecting on
the album what so was a couple you have
fun highlight moments in making it
I don't know you you don't know you had
no fun making this album i'm adding
necessarily have a bad time
alright but it's like I can't stand i
can really interact really highlight
like it's working and honest do you
think cord was a fun moment
mmm i think when daddy came in for you
got to be more fun
oh yeah he's hilarious yeah I like
laughing at die and that he brought the
fun
he's crazy no disrespect anybody else
but he was born in their child is born
detail . he's hilarious bags without
full adidas track suit would like the
beanie that you just didn't expect him
to be what he was
hmm yeah he's great to let it yeah I
don't know man shall be working we go
through hell to initiate man i feel you
probably don't mean what do you mean
supposed to that like what parts are how
your music
yeah but I mean like what part of the
actual work is how i don't know i mean
novel songs are done don't write songs
do souls are doing ok so do you walk
away from late but you say you're set so
you roll up what we do in the studio's
we sit down for months and look for
beats yeah that's really all we do
yeah what it then do you mean the sounds
are done before you go in
of course there are others are so you
write them before you choose the
meatballs ago
ok probably
one song wasn't done already three songs
on the album had different beast to
employ your half o ok for years ago that
is a much less collaborative way then
it's common which makes sense me I mean
we're not really is like I tell us is
after i'm very sorry we're going in
there was nothing but I tell naughty i
want i want this baby to sound like I
want to be just like Alison like a
picture something like use a word like
finding find it
that's frustrating for producers but
it's his album like I think that that is
that it's what you have to understand is
I don't believe in good or bad either so
it's it has the field a certain way I
don't care how the music sounds like it
was talking about it has the feel a
certain way because when I to this day I
have no idea what the fuck lets everyone
is talking about their have no idea what
I'm talking about don't know I don't
know James Brown was talking about
either but it makes you feel a certain
way and that's what makes it last
is it any song on this album where
you've walked away from it and maybe
immediately right after you know putting
it down or maybe even two months later
where the impact of the song really hits
you emotionally know already got thrown
myself
what do you mean you already got through
all of it like it doesn't bother me
anymore already so it doesn't I don't
like it's not it's life
sorry starts there things that have
already dealt with out put it like that
whatever was being spoken about has
already been dealt with
ok then so it's like the impact hit
before made this light you know it
starts its reflective piece that makes
it I get it and I'm just wondering you
know any . have you listened over to
some of your songs and you're just like
you have a moment where you like you
know where it came from but you don't
know where it came from and it really
you feel like
spiritual sort of a I don't know any
other way that it's to describe it a
relationship with any of those songs
like have you ever written something and
then listen back and be like I i can't
believe i did that i wrote that it came
out of me
that happens to me sometimes
oh not yet not yes you're right answer
not yet got you
I mean is it would it be fair to say
that I feel like there's a there's a
little bit of miscommunication in the
room and maybe I'm wrong
it seems that you like do you consider
yourself an artist in the sense that you
there's a separation between what you
make and like who you are
I wish right now being a lot of letting
a lot easier i was a person right very
difficult person to do understand our
experience you're very clear
well I mean to trust me you don't know
like from like some home
I mean from a understanding standpoint
I'm very when people try to figure me
out
doesn't work okay we're gonna figure out
the fourth grade my mom and me and my
mom and a dad that's still really know
about you show it at the other day so is
alkaline I'm oh I'm apartment I don't
really know much about anything except
what I go through some the is kind of
like I'm i understand that i don't know
what i'm doing i know that as far as
life I know what I will want but i
understand i don't know what's gonna
happen tomorrow and I gave me a kind of
own coming with music just life in
general gives me a kind of it at ease
with it
that's what I don't try to make songs
like I'm trying to remake songs or try
to make much fun i want to feel certain
time when I'll be perfectly fine with if
no one like my we can ask her out and
not care because I know what it's
supposed to be
everyone loves shy college environment
you'll never have any plan issue because
that wasn't me being that wasn't me you
know
stoneleigh you visit me i hate it the
process of making that project it was
very difficult to it's difficult for me
they understand i know the weight of it
but I didn't really know how to go about
it like it was that was really corny max
project to be honest with you
mmm winter problems like those who are
saying wrap on this be about this
remember
at one time this happened with your dad
make this all about that that was that's
been every day at some point though
did you understand or did you did you
draw from that directive to figure out
exactly what what it was supposed to be
not just want tommy was at it there is
no direction you can try to do that but
you trying to make what I'm because i'm
not trying to be jay-z I'm trying to be
pink floyd like how
what do you mean there were do never
seen what am I didn't like this in this
argument have got time off for like when
I tell people Chief Keef has more
influence and jay-z when it comes it
yup youth-friendly me 30 otherwise
you've never seen you never you'll never
see a kid walking down she'll like I
want to look like jay-z I'm going to go
dress like jay-z I'm going to take
pictures like jay-z as as long as I've
been alive i've never seen an undersized
different type of license is a part of
age and that's the most successful
rapper ever anybody was in the county
doesn't get any more unless you know
there are kids walking around like I
want to look like Drake there are kids
walking around like I want to look like
j Cole you won't see it if you do it's a
small number but their kids look like
the Meagles their kids look like she
keep their kids that look like we it was
50 cent in the game their kids look like
YG and that comes down to this tyler
Earl and this comes down to this
it's the zoo and I mean it's easy to be
the everyone wants to be the wine
the kids want to be the Tigers they want
to be there they want to be these these
creatures that have a sort of power that
we can't contain it
it's a fear top of the food chain
exactly that's what that that that so in
a sense that is what we get looked at as
and when that's connected with the right
approach to the music that's when you
have a jimmy injuries that's when you
have looking for that's only have led
zeppelin Metallica
guns and roses a rolling stone that's
one thing they've got that we haven't
really gotten throughout the closest
thing we have to in hip-hop that I've
seen personally is cut his kind of West
misses his clothes then we've got into
it and know that that's why to me he's
the best ever and always will be until
someone else because it's the right
initiative in the right the right like
this it doesn't matter what you say or
what you do it matters how they tell
what they take from it that matters it
matters what they take from it
do you think that I mean like the those
very superstar influential sort of
iconic artists had something going in
the time period that helped catapult
them and I'm wondering now in terms of
technology in terms of human interaction
like we interact here you know we don't
interact in a room that much anymore on
a lot of levels and I'm wondering if
because of the devices of our time we
don't get more influx of those iconic
sort of artistic very power powerful
socially driven it almost is it will
damn near India because it's to the
point you have to be in the room with
those people to understand what they are
Martin Luther King has speeches he
didn't tweet
it's a difference and we don't pull it
off you won't be able you won't be able
to feel that mean that that's going to
hurt me more than it helps me
mm and I but I know that and I'm fine
with that because i know it's not about
me you know i mean and that's the
problem it's about them to everyone that
almost all my life so I'm not okay with
that
wait sit know what do you mean by that
when you look at artists athletes anyone
of any influence it's always been about
them as far as my lifetime only speak
from what i know huh
and that was a problem because we have
this we will talk we had argued today
almost like a big discussion student
there like what it came down to know
rappers cared about no rappers ever
tried or cared to even reach out a hand
or word of kind of anything to anyone in
my generation ever except for Kanye West
and lupe fiasco's like it had to be more
and I told a roomful of no idea in the
room Brian people that have been around
for a long time in this room very
successful people
my question was who and no one had one
name that's the problem for clarity
saying is relevant is generated by it i
know i know i think that that's a very
clear thing that has been happening and
in this entire conversation is that
there is a very clear separation between
your generation and and your generation
yeah and we do know the reasons for that
but not all of those reasons have been
articulated but because that the
holdover is it of it is you saying
somebody must have told you and he's
saying now I'm and I'm clear on that I
understand that disconnect I mean one
thing I try to reach out to people but
it's not always received and I get that
and I I'm never insulted but part of
that also i think is like it's not even
about your public it's about our
generation like I have I remember a very
clear feeling when I was a kid of being
like oh just realizing that my parents
generation fucked me like they didn't
leave anything for us too and they won't
fucking get out of the fucking job so
how am I gonna move up and like they
made all these promises
they're gonna fuck us with social
security they don't want to talk about
it like they refuse to deal with
segregation and housing and racism and
the police they're gonna put it on us to
fix it and pay for it and they set up
because they were too afraid to let us
like get bruise like fall down it's all
about protecting us little white kids
you know
mhm it again no good when I'm with you
and Earl now let now let me tell you how
to let me tell you how that that that
even gives convoluted sense of where I
come from it's about 200 people from my
neighborhood grand in jail alive around
or moved away a large portion of those p
people are white he's also know but
listen this is why that's a bad thing in
a sense it makes you hopeless because
one thing that's always working the
benefit of the Black Latino communities
was being able to say that's what's
wrong
that's the enemy and I even races are
they have other motherfucker gonna go
get what they have that doesn't exist
where I come from because there right
there right it looks like i'll look for
but look at Chris want to pick out one
of these peoples all shit you're fucked
too so we just stuck and that's scary i
talked about all the time thats that's
scary
it's like who you look who's that who's
the enemy quote-unquote who's who's
pulling you back and then it gets to the
point which leftover just start and as
lower middle-class suburbia was not
because like i said it's not content
it's not wats in the one in the scary
quotes around is not countenance not
wats but we can't fend for ourselves so
what we do have is escapes what becomes
our escape is it film is it music is it
whatever so the easiest want to get his
music because a song can be three
minutes you want to sit down for hours
you have to take weeks are you out of
your life to read a book it's three
minutes and those two mins can change
your life and since they're making you
feel like nothing matters what do we do
with these three minutes less drinking
let's sell cocaine let's kill people
don't worry don't worry by talking about
the conversation speaking like no
cracking that show taking me to see them
get your sleep and when I was taken to
sleeping coal chute back
me get your shots on got the mercy of so
your search a week as stop shooting
rocks me
we're becoming c-spine not gonna wake
everybody around kids going next barrel
you know how we can make it you know you
ain't never know who you're talking to
the girls Erica huh
so there's no civil rights where I come
from there is no there is no pride in
helping your race overcome where I come
from all we have are escapes you can go
to the beach probably get shot at
because the cops don't come to the beach
you can go try to kick it with this girl
who you don't know her brother is you
don't catch the bus because this was in
the summer
that's when he gets ratio and we all
pretend it didn't happen to become
friends one school back in which is
always been funny to me and you have
your escapes what do we have to escape
to
who's the new author who has the new
books that the kids are eating I'll go
get my nephew but he just turned 16 he
said I want it looks for my birthday i
was trying to I was the new shit that
they read it i found captain underpants
books when I was a kid
same stuff who where where where where
the new films where these things that we
need they don't really exist but we have
a overflow of music right but what are
we being told with these escapes nothing
we don't have rock music anymore who's
the rockstar right now I couldn't tell
you we don't have anything I'd say Kanye
West was the rockstar exactly don't know
exactly thats minds and their tail grab
that from him right now and you're of
things happen you know you kind of lose
you
like I said the even older you get the
less can relate to you but you know it's
like we don't know it's not it's not
here anymore and in the assets before
you have this year that it's not that's
not it
we do it is literally an exam is right
wrong reality it's not there so that's
why we're trying to make these things
but they're not because when you come to
long beach
everybody looks like they're from
Chicago right now everybody okay so i
totally fill you in but i can say
through the ages this is the Islam about
the drop through the ages of time the
Creator has giving something whether you
believe in whatever not something to we
are
wait misaligned to give us it could just
be this big to kind of like bring us
back to our Center or or an idea of what
the center's should be as supposed to be
so I just say 222 that right now is
Kendrick more you know like I don't hear
anyone else really questioning
themselves talking about the environment
saying how fucked up it is sad how
fucked up day off for it but at the same
time saying you know just the polls and
then pointing the finger right back at
it and then pointing the finger out
early for how we get in this environment
situation and so you're over that ilk
you right there
so as much as there isn't in there you
know there's all this other stuff . the
majority of the BS the minority that is
it is something that's the idea
I have hope when i listen to your record
i have hoping listen the Kendricks
record
oh I really love I think people may not
make misunderstand you
if they're not really paying attention
to to you and would think that you of
speaking they would think maybe you come
away from your music that you're just
part of the problem
yeah definitely of all the stuff that
you're talking about listen that i am
that's that's my i am that's the
situation like look at what happened the
other between means I'm smart enough to
normal and I've always known I was wrong
as you can ask my mother I've always
known I was wrong but I've never had a
problem with it so my whole thing is
look what happened like that
specifically when when you look on the
television and you see a black head shot
by a cop because the cop was afraid and
people tell you what's bullshit it's not
who tells you what part is bullshit i
lonely wasn't scared just like know
they're there they're afraid because
it's to the point that slice but I'm not
circling back to what I said earlier
when you're in third grade you know in
in Jackson to launch has a birthday
party and you know he's mom has a house
in this two-story house and sunny cold
which is the nice part contact carter
from the products apart wheelers and
dealers in carson when I go under a
fifth street like with all the crazy
doctors and stuff like that and you have
to go home to be in the back of your
aunt's house with all the crazy people
and you're in the fourth grade third 34
i forgot we're looking to third or
fourth grade and you already start to
feel bad about yourself and then you get
older and even you do you begin I want
to leave your house because you don't
want people to have to drop you off it
and then you don't want to you don't
have to showcase certain things you
don't want people to know your dad's
never getting out of jail potentially
you want people to know what your mom is
like because we might pick up from
school she's completely different person
that's not my mom anymore
when you when you when you live your
life and you're that young and you and
you and you begin to be ashamed of who
you are
the older you get the smarter you get so
you're looking for a reason to you're
looking for a reason to have pride in
who you are or where you come from and
you look out the window and you
understand what fear is when you go to
the one you see that line you see that
bear you want to know why that glasses
up and why they look at that out animal
and amazement you wanna understand why
that is and then you look all you you're
scared to be over here
why not because bad now because you
because you because you're afraid of
what can happen to you
I'm look at happened to you you cause
yourself to believe that I'm the problem
you're still afraid of me
why do you feel that way because nobody
else was wondering why these kids look
like this at such a young age maybe six
your accent was wrong every time I talk
to him because there's always gonna be
something wrong and every time he has
something to say but might like what if
you think your kids are messing with me
honest I just don't really know how I
don't know what I want to be when I get
older I don't think I think my mom likes
my sister more than me
little things that no one's thinking
about that change who you are
this is me being smart enough and being
able to live past it because when i have
my core group of friends I grew up with
I'm like my best friends I'm the last
one left literally the last one left at
about 10 to 15 people
I'm the last one left so my music is me
saying this is the problem but I'm our
technology because nobody else got
technology
well I think the difference is one
you're acknowledging it but to I think I
don't just get the sense that you're
just saying you know I'm the problem i
feel like you you're offering maybe not
solution right this moment but first was
just your first problem deadly but also
inch and just not like for example the
video for senorita which you know
illustrates what you're talking about
that zoo feeling
even in that video I think he's showing
something to wake up to mind but it's
well this way i look at it there cannot
be a solution to the problem is
addressed and that's the point I'm at
right now because that's why i set the
mood
I want this album noticed like the the
whole point of the title and I've never
did this collaboration of it that was
the point in time where I understood the
power of fear where we all did so I'm
supposed to make you feel how people
used to feel they saw my mom come up to
school or come around and she had no the
shirt tucked in with the pants are like
I dress like my mom and always will
always have one though that I want
people to feel that fear is this music
on people to feel the fear of being 12
13 years old when your best friend's dad
go to jail he leaves going to go on
youtube to figure out how to use them on
the fear that we understood that we had
that is the moving the tone of this
album because that's real and people
don't people over there just it's just
it's just know they're just
troublemakers know it's a result of you
not carry em that's that's that's that's
what that's what summertime OC signifies
it's when I understood the power of fear
and when I understood
yeah i'm part of the problem and i will
be for very long time because that's
what I choose to be because it's a
choice
you don't get to chart somewhere you
grow up you don't get a choice in your
involvement because people from the hood
that I've never done anything they just
live over here and they need some backup
when somebody come through em so like
mine as well as one fight they always
have me go to work go to school because
the first mind is never to tell you to
do wrong where I come from and never
will be and I'll make sure that meant
that put together get that across we
were young we will get in trouble for
having guns will get in trouble for not
going to school more than our parents
will get mad they would get mad because
their whole thing was like damn up since
you from the hood now you have to do
what I say so i'm going to tell you to
go to school it was that type of
environment but that's what we
understood the power we had a fear
because it's either they're scared of
you or they're better than
and no one wants to feel like anyone
else is better than there so we
establish fear and and lift me up is
understanding that North Norfolk is is
appreciating that
mmm summertime is conflicting with that
surf is understanding that you're wrong
and it's not about me it's about you
I can be wrong but you gotta do about it
boys like to stroke your ego for
supporting depends on hold or smoke when
I was little for example in folklore how
you rich bitch you know for people
actually crack foot away man how you
really feel for your right hand
understand sworn it was right here
it was all the rain is calling for you
best frame not talking protect a nice
never did get to the waters like the
back shot looking for fielding affairs
in the projects in a plane mirror
hanging out with my chick you ain't even
the Prime u16 you want to be a star girl
we charge for the girl was the price of
the stock world cup on the wake up from
sleep with sundown
I really looking for somebody who can he
was looking for somebody
take your body when you're riding slums
could have been fun
you want me to back shot looking for me
it's it's it's it's my guess is less
about what's being said and more about
makes you feel and that's the definition
that that is complete sense i guess i
just want to say that it doesn't I'm so
very grateful for the album and for
talking to you every time that we talk
to you and and like almost every
interview that you give I don't feel it
doesn't make me feel hopeless it doesn't
make me feel like we should blow it up
we should start over it feels like the
beginning it feels like we can speak
directly and clearly to each other and
that we can finally get somewhere
yeah and and whatever what I'm saying is
in my in wherein to further than what i
mean by that
it's best not to me that's not a new
page that's a different book
yeah totally so I wasn't that like fuck
all of that yeah it doesn't matter let's
get over here with with it right and
it's not like a violent rejection of
anything it's just like let's go
exactly because it's funny like when i
tell my nephew six years old and listen
to my music all the time and lily has
not taken one negative thing from it you
can tell me i don't know what i'm
talking about never gotten that but she
get that but that's why that's why the
whole it wouldn't it wouldn't matter to
me people demon be on the other side of
the spectrum from the negative problems
because like a child which is who
matters because we're gonna die before
then the fact that the child lives in
your riverside is never seen any type of
anything wrong in his life can listen to
i never nothing with the police and not
take from it
fuck the police or I want to go normal
duties
that's what I care about what was his
reaction
to that one it's not really know you
like crazy
what the fuck would you say he said
things like your voice doesn't sound out
loud all the time haha that's what he
said but not here um mr. just in general
like with music hehe just end it all
comes down to who you are as a person
because if he looked at me and I heard
my music and saw a different person
maybe you wouldn't feel that way but I'm
a person and he sees me as a person
that's the difference
I feel mhm because he can hear my music
and see that that's where i came from or
you can see that that made me who I am
today because he would he
to this day he doesn't like he doesn't
like fights on the slap a kid from
within milliseconds my writing doesn't
help anybody and things like that so
it's he sees the completions and people
need a smart kid but I just feel like
that's that's and I'm not since my
demographic as i know it's not but
that's 60 you guys that's where the
money and you know that's that's that's
that's what I find comfort
yeah it seems like that is the norm not
fucking somebody else's life up because
the majority of things I heard and I saw
messed me up like like I've never been i
guess how long was smart smarter than a
lot of people and watch me with no just
turned into my father my mother then
create people to me to follow behind
necessarily great parents in the
traditional sense but for literally the
best people to bring me into the world i
had to go into because they told me what
it was at the beginning which is what a
lot of people . i've never thought Santa
Claus was real or nothing like that and
that helped me be the person I am today
and helped me deal with his business and
the things i have to do with in life and
on but when it comes to this music is
being able to resonate correctly to the
people that are gonna need it because
some people all them in mind that they
might need it but they won't need as
much of that Chapel knows nothing
that's just really worries me what is
your what's-his-name the sexual OJT is
crazy and he's like him
we gotta wrap this up give me the soul
for late i'm so sorry i know what I
don't want to interrupt but I understand
Kourtney but it's been
two years so and uh there's more to come
we'll see absolutely i know that
