REQUIRED. BUT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT FINAL NUMBERS MIGHT BE
LOWER THAN EXPECTED BECAUSE OF
COVID-19.
WELL THE POLITICAL
CONVENTIONS ARE IN THE BOOKS
NOW JOE BIDEN SET TO THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR
PRESIDENT LAST WEEK IN
WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, PRESIDENT
TRUMP ACCEPTED HIS RENOMINATION
AND THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN LAST
NIGHT. AND THERE ARE NOW 67
DAYS LEFT UNTIL ELECTION DAY
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUSY
CAMPAIGN SEASON AHEAD AFTER
THESE CONVENTIONS, TOO. JOINING
US NOW TO WRAP IT ALL UP HIS
POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR
BILL MARKED WITH NORTH CENTRAL
COLLEGE GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO
CHAT WITH YOU. WELL LET'S START
WITH A SOMETHING I KNOW WE'VE
ALL BEEN WONDERING AS WE WATCH
THESE CONVENTIONS WERE ANY
MINES CHANGE DO YOU THINK.
WELL THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION,
YOU KNOW IT WE DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TUNE IN
FOR THIS WHEN I TALK TO MY
STUDENTS, THEY DON'T
NECESSARILY WATCHES CLOSELY SO
I'M GUESSING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S
PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED OR
WATCHING SO MOST OF THE COUNTRY
HAS PROBABLY MADE UP THEIR
MINDS SO FOR BOTH OF THESE
CONVENTIONS, THE REALLY TRYING
TO PICK OFF A FEW OF THE
MODERATES WHO HAVEN'T MADE UP
THEIR MINDS AND AT THE SAME
TIME EXCITE THE BASE RATE GET
THOSE WHO YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING
TO VOTE OR THAT OR SUPPORT YOU
OUT TO THE POLLS. SO IT'S
REALLY ABOUT MOTIVATION.
THE DEBATES ARE NEXT WE KNOW
HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI IS
SUGGESTING AND HOPING JOE BIDEN
DOES NOT DEBATE WITH THE
PRESIDENT. WHY DO YOU THINK
THIS IS AND WHAT ARE YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WELL I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE
IDEA I THINK THAT IT WHAT YOU
WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO HAVE
BOTH CANDIDATES IN FRONT OF THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC AS OFTEN AS YOU
CAN LET THEM ENGAGE. NOW, I
KNOW NANCY PELOSI'S POINT IS
THAT SHE DOESN'T THINK THAT
TRUMP IS GOING TO ENGAGE IN A
LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PERSPECTIVE
BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO
SEE THE 2 OF THEM ENGAGING SEE
AN EXCHANGE OF IDEAS BE ABLE TO
MEASURE THE 2 SO YOU KNOW I
DISAGREE WITH NANCY ON THAT I
THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE HAVE THESE CANDIDATES
IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
AND JOE BIDEN HAS SAID THAT HE
WILL DEBATE. LET'S GET TO THE
DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN STRATEGIES
AS PRESIDENT TRUMP LIKES TO
POINT OUT JOE BIDEN HAS SPENT
MUCH OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
AT HOME BECAUSE OF COVID-19
HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE'S GOING TO
BE DOING SOME MORE CAMPAIGN
APPEARANCE BUT THE PRESIDENT.
TODAY IS BEGINNING WHAT WILL BE
A CAMPAIGN RALLIES IN STOPS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I DON'T
ALMOST DAILY BASIS. WHAT'S YOUR
TAKE ABOUT HOW THE NEXT FEW
MONTHS WILL LOOK.
WELL THIS ELECTION IS GOING
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP YOU KNOW I
THINK DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO
MAKE IT ABOUT JOE BIDEN BUT THE
REALITY IS THIS IS A
REFERENDUM. ON THE PAST 4 YEARS
WITH DONALD TRUMP SO SO BIDEN
WILL BE OUT THERE. HE WILL BE
ENGAGING HE'LL BE MEETING WITH
THE PEOPLE BUT IT REALLY WILL
COME DOWN TO WHAT TRUMP
CONTINUES TO DO OVER THE NEXT.
A COUPLE MONTHS, MY GUESS IS
THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AN
INTENSE CAMPAIGN IT'S GOING TO
GET UGLY ONE THING THAT WE SAW
COMING OUT OF THE REPUBLICAN
CONVENTION IS THIS THEME OF LAW
AND ORDER I'M GUESSING TRUMP IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TO HIT THAT
HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
VIOLENCE. THE LOOTING THE
RIOTS, I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE
THAT TYPE OF MESSAGE. COMING
FROM THE MY GUESS IS THAT JOE
BIDEN IS GOING TO TAKE A
DIFFERENT TACK AND TALK MORE
ABOUT INCLUSIVITY ABOUT
BRINGING THE COUNTRY SO I THINK
IT'S GOING TO BE A TENSE IT MAY
NOT ALWAYS BE PRETTY.
BILL DO YOU THINK THE COVID
RESTRICTIONS COULD HURT OR
HINDER EITHER PARTY. IT'S A
GREAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW I
THINK DONALD TRUMP WOULD LOVE
TO BE OUT THERE HE REALLY
THRIVES ON THE BIG AUDIENCES
SO.
HE STRUGGLES TO SOME DEGREE
WHEN HE'S READING FROM A
TELEPROMPTER WHEN HE DOESN'T
HAVE A BIG AUDIENCE. SO I THINK
FOR HIM IT'S GOING TO BE
EMOTIONALLY DIFFICULT AND
AGAIN, YOU KNOW JOE BIDEN JUST
HAS TO BE OUT THERE AND NOT I
DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO BE
DOING LOTS OF EVENTS YOU KNOW
AS LONG AS HE DOES THE DEBATES
AS HE GIVES A HANDFUL OF
SPEECHES, YOU KNOW PEOPLE KNOW
JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A
LONG TIME THERE WAS A LONG
EXTENSIVE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
SO THE VOTERS KNOW ABOUT JOE
BIDEN THE FOCUS REALLY IS GOING
TO BE ON DONALD TRUMP. SO WHEN
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AN OCTOBER
SURPRISE SOMETHING THAT COULD
CHANGE A LOT OF MINES.
WHAT AREAS ARE YOU LOOKING
AT AS POSSIBLE SURPRISES.
WELL, THE BIG ONE YOU HEAR
ABOUT IS WHETHER THERE'S GOING
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS
GOING TO REALLY SOMETHING ABOUT
THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
AND THAT MAY HAPPEN, ALTHOUGH
THE POLITICAL WORLD WE LIVE IN
NOW YOU KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT AN
OCTOBER SURPRISE IT FEELS LIKE
EVERY DAY THERE'S A NICE
SURPRISE VERY TRUE. THAT'S JUST
KIND OF THE NATURE OF OUR
POLITICS TODAY, SO I DON'T
THINK ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN
LATE IN THE GAME TO REALLY
CHANGE THE ELECTION. SO MY
GUESS IS WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE AT THIS FRANTIC PACE
OR THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE
SOME NEW STORY. A NEW I DON'T
THINK OCTOBER WILL NECESSARILY
CHANGE ANYTHING.
DO YOU THINK IN ANY WAY THE
KAMALA HARRIS WILL HELP JOE
BIDEN OR MIKE PENCE WILL HELP
DONALD TRUMP. IN THE DAYS TO
COME. YEAH, I THINK TOMORROW IS
GOING TO PLAY A BIG ROLE COM
WAS GOING PLAY A BIG ROLL OUT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE HER
OUT AND SHE'S GOING TO BE
REALLY GOOD AT PUSHING THE JOE
BIDEN REALLY WANTS TO PLAY THE
MORE GRANDFATHER FIGURE HE
WANTS TO BE THE GUY THAT'S
GOING TO PULL THE COUNTRY
TOGETHER AND SO IF THEY CAN
HAVE HER OUT THERE ATTACKING
THE PRESIDENT AND SHE'S REALLY
REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT SOME OF HER BEST
MOMENTS IN THE SENATE WE'RE
PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE HOT SEAT,
SO I ANTICIPATE HER PLAYING A
PROMINENT MIKE PENCE PROBABLY
NOT THE SAME DONALD TRUMP
CONSUME SO MUCH OF THE AIR SO
HE'LL REALLY BE CENTER STAGE
AND SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THE
DEMOCRATIC VP, THE NEW A LOT OF
THE REPUBLICANS AND WHEN IT
COMES TO VOTING RUN A DIFFERENT
THIS CYCLE THAN IN YEARS PAST
BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS ARE
GOING TO BE.
VOTING NOT JUST A FEW DAYS
EARLY BUT PERHAPS WEEKS AND
WEEKS EARLY. THAT'S RIGHT AND
SO I THINK FOR THE CANDIDATES,
THEY HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT
REACHING VOTERS NOW.
YOU CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE END
OF YOU CAN'T WAIT TO GET HOT,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE CONVINCING
VOTERS NOW BECAUSE I WITH MAIL
AND VOTING YOU'RE GOING TO
PEOPLE VOTING MUCH MUCH EARLIER
WHICH IS GREAT, I MEAN I THINK
GIVEN ALL THE STRESS ON THE
SYSTEM EARLIER ONE CAN VOTE THE
BETTER.
POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR
BILL MOCK OF NORTH CENTRAL
COLLEGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH BE
