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how do you as someone who kind of thinks
broadly about the world and the times
that we're in how do you see this moment
that we're in right now
i think we're in a very similar moment
to 1968 in that we are seeing mass
protests
against racism and police brutality and
children in cages and all of the truly
important things that this
administration
is getting up to and
you know it's very similar but i think
that there's even more at stake now
because we like to think that we've made
progress
since the 1960s and in many ways we have
but
for the most marginalized among us we
have not made enough progress
we don't have a martin luther king and
we don't have a malcolm x right now
to give us that sort of leadership and
that guidance and so
the onus is upon a lot of us as
individuals to contribute to social
change
and to make sure that we keep the
activist energy
alive and that we don't get too defeated
even though it's incredibly easy to feel
defeated right now given everything that
we're up against
talk to me about where where you are
emotionally on this moment we're in are
you optimistic
that that that we've started something
good and better things are going to come
from this
are you worried as if i'm honest i am
that this could end up being
a temporary awakening and people could
just go back to normal where are you
not just intellectually but but
emotionally i'm definitely worried that
this is temporary that people are going
to lose enthusiasm that they're going to
give in to
protest fatigue because they've had to
think about racism actively for more
than five minutes
and that's why we have to be relentless
we cannot let up we cannot
give in to that fatigue i think we can
take moments to to relax to rest
to recharge but the fight has to
continue
especially as we're facing down an
eviction crisis that's going to really
gain a lot of momentum starting in the
fall and
once the police feel like the scrutiny
has moved
they're going to resume the brutality
that they've been using for decades
so i'm just trying to be optimistic
because it's so defeatist when you
aren't
and when you just throw your hands up
and decide ah there's nothing i can do
about this but my goodness when you look
at what we're up against
and american apathy and
people who say one thing to pollsters
and do another thing when they get into
the voting booth
you know i'm deeply concerned
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