
English: 
Welcome to Red Bee Media's
Live Remote Broadcasting
Service.
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: Good
afternoon, everybody. Today
I'm joined by the acting
Director-General of Health,

Maori: 
Whakawhiti Huarere Ora a Bee
Media. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Te ahiahi pai, nga
tangata katoa. I tenei ra kua

Maori: 
uru au ki te Kaiwhakahaere
Tuarua o te Hauora, Robyn
Shearer. Ko wai ma te kawe i a
taatau i enei ra. Whai muri i
tera ka whai atu ahau i etahi
korero ka mutu ana haere ki nga
patai. ROBYN
SHEARER: E iwa nga keehi hou mo
COVID-19 hei purongo i Niu
Tireni i tenei ra. Tokowh kei
MIQ, tokorima kei roto i te
hapori. Mo nga keehi e kawemai
ana, e toru nga wahine, kotahi
kei roto i te toru tekau,
kotahi i roto i ona 20, me te
tamaiti ka tae mai i India i te
22 Akuhata me te. I
whakamatauria te katoa kino i
te ra e toru o to raatau noho
ki roto te noho wehe. I mau
tonu raanei rite ratou. Ng
whakap o ng keehi kua
korerotia i mua atu i muri mai
ka hoki mai ano he hua pai. Ko
te tuawha tuawha kua
whakamatautauhia i tenei ra he
wahine. I ona 30s i tae mai i
India i te 27 Akuhata. Ko nga
keehi hapori e rima kua
whakatauhia hono atu te

English: 
Robyn Shearer. Who is going to
take us through today's cases.
After that I'll follow through
with a few remarks and then
we'll go into questions. >>
ROBYN SHEARER: There are nine
new cases of COVID-19 to
report in New Zealand today.
Four are in MIQs and five are
in the community. Of the four
imported cases, three female,
one in her 30s, one in her
20s, and a child arrived from
India on 22 August and all
tested negative around day
three of their stay in managed
isolation. They were retested
as they were contacts of
previously-reported cases and
subsequently returned a
positive result. The fourth
person who has tested positive
today is a woman in her 30s
who arrived from India on 27
August. The five new confirmed
community cases are all
clearly epidemiologically
linked to the Auckland
cluster. Three cases are
linked to the Mt Roskill

English: 
Evangelical Church. The other
two cases are both household
contacts of two separate
previously-reported cases.
Since 11 August, our
contact-tracing team
identified 2,221 contact cases
of which 2,505 have been
contacted and are
self-isolating. And we're in
the process of contacting the
rest. As of this morning, we
have identified 28 close
contacts of the Tokoroa Health
professional currently in
hospital. 16 of those have
already been contacted. We
expect to contact the
remainder today. There are 128
peel linked to the community
cluster who have been
transferred to the Auckland
quarantine facility which
includes 85 people who have
tested positive for COVID-19
and their household contacts.
There are 11 people with

Maori: 
whanaketanga ki nga puawai o
Akarana. E toru nga keehi ka
hono ki te Whare Rongopai a Mt
Roskill. Ko era atu take e rua
ko nga whanaungatanga whare o
te tokorua wehe Tuhinga o mua.
Mai i te 11 o Akuhata, i tohua
e taatau roopu
whakapiri-whakapapa 2,221. Ko
nga keehi he 2,505 i
whakaputahia, a ka wehe i a
raatau ano. Na kei roto i a
maatau te whakapiri i te
toenga. Mai i tenei ata, kua
tautuhia e maatau nga hoa tata
28 o te ngaio hauora o Tokoroa
i te wa kei te hhipera. 16 o
tera kua whakap atu. Ka
tmanako mtou ki te whakap
atu ki te toenga i tnei
rangi. Kei te hono te nuinga o
nga tuunga 128 ki te puinga
hapori. Kua nukuhia ki te waahi
taraiwa o Tamaki Makaurau kei
roto nei. 85 nga taangata i
whakamatauhia he pai mo te
COVID-19 me o raatau hoap

Maori: 
whare. He 11 nga taangata kei
te COVID-19 i te hohipera i
tenei ra. Tokorua i te taone
nui o Akarana, e toru i
Middlemore, e toru i roto i te
Te Tai Tokerau Shore, tokorua i
Waikato, a kotahi i te Halemera
o chtautahi. E tokoiwa nga
taangata kei roto i te paati,
ae rua i ICU. Kotahi kei
Middlemore me nga Hapera o
Waikato. E 15 nga keehi kua
korerotia i mua atu ra e kiia
ana kei a raatau kua ora i
tenei ra. Na e iwa nga keehi
hou i tenei ra, ko taatau tini
mahi kaha Ko nga keehi ko 131.
Tuhinga o mua. Enei- 24 he
kawemai he kawenga i roto i nga
whakaurunga MIQ, ko te 107 nga
take a te To tatou
katoa Tuhinga o mua COVID-19.
Is 1,387 is which the number we
report to Te Ao Organisation

English: 
COVID-19 in hospital today.
Two in Auckland City, three in
Middlemore, three in North
Shore, two in Waikato, and one
in Christchurch Hospital. Nine
people are on a ward and two
in ICU. One each in Middlemore
and Waikato Hospitals. There
are 15 previously-reported
cases who are considered to
have recovered today. With
today's nine new cases, our
total number of active cases
is 131. Of these - 24 are
imported cases in MIQ
facilities and 107 are
community cases. Our total
number of confirmed cases of
COVID-19 is now 1,387 which is
the number we report to the
World Health Organization.
Yesterday our laboratories
processed 7,219 tests for
COVID-19 bringing the total

Maori: 
Hauora. Inanahi i whakahaerehia
e o maatau labuhanga nga
whakamatautau 7,1919. Mo Ko te
COVID-19 te kawe i te katoa
maha o nga whakamatautau kua
oti r ki te 758,027. I te mea
ko te Tumuaki Tuarua mo te
Hauora Mate e hiahia ana ahau
tenei waatea ki te whakahua i
te oranga hinengaro. He nui te
pehanga i roto i te maha o o
tatou hapori kei. Tenei wa kua
tino koa ki te kite i tera kei
te whakamahi nga taangata i a
maatau e te hunga. Kei te
hiahia matou kia mohio nga
taangata kei te awhina mai mena
ka ea. Me hiahia mai i te
kanohi-ki-kanohi, ipurangi me
te waea. Mena kua- pai ki te
kore koe he pai atu kua pa ki
te mea kaore kia pai. Koinei te
waa e uaua ana ki a tatou katoa
o Aotearoa me te eke Ko te
tautoko me te tautoko ko taatau
tonu kia mahi tonu. He maha nga
korero mo te paetukutuku a Te
Manatauranga Hauora me te. Hono
ki te maha o nga taputapu mahi
pnei i nga taupnga me
paetukutuku whaiaro-awhina i a
koe me te maha o raatau kaore
he utu he raraunga e waatea

English: 
number of tests completed to
date to 758,027. As the Deputy
Director-General of Mental
Health I do want to take this
opportunity to mention mental
wellbeing. There are
significant pressure in many
of our communities at this
time and it's been really
pleasing to see that people
are making use of the supports
we have available. We want
people to know that there is
help available if they need it
from face-to-face support,
online and by phone. If it's -
it is OK if you're not OK and
it's already to not be OK.
This is a time of pressure for
all of us in New Zealand and
reaching out and supporting is
what we need to continue to
do. There's lots of advice on
the Ministry of Health website
and also links to a number of
practical tools such as apps
and self-help online sites and
many of them have free data
available. Thank you, Minister
>>. >> MINISTER HIPKINS: Thank
you to the Acting Deputy
Director-General. Today is the

English: 
first day of Auckland being at
alert level 2 and we're
already seeing signs of the
city getting back to normal or
some sense of normality.
Anecdotally, transport are
seeing nine out of 10
passengers boarding trains and
buses using face coverings and
the police are adopting a very
high-visibility approach near
transport hubs educating and
encouraging passengers,
handing out masks to those who
have forgotten them and on the
Auckland streets we're seeing
anecdotal again around 50% of
people wearing masks. We're
seeing big numbers of people
at the airport and the brakes
are coming off the Auckland
transport routes, in and out
of Auckland, as the
checkpoints are being packed
down. Those are good things to
see. It's a strong start and
as we come to expect from the
people from Auckland, people
are getting on with it, so
thank you to everybody in for
continuing to play their part
and thank you to businesses
for their patience. I know
it's been frustrating and
difficult. It's important to

Maori: 
ana. Tn, Minita. MITAI
HIPKINS: Mauruuru ki te Mahi
Tuarua Tianau-Tianara. I tenei
ra ko te ra tuatahi o Akarana e
noho ana ki te taumata mataara
2. A kei te maataki ano matou i
nga tohu o te taone e hoki mai
ana noa iho etahi ahuatanga o
te ahua. I mua, ko te waka e
kite ana i te tokoiwa mai i nga
pirihimana 10 e haere ana i
rung. Ngaahi tereina me nga
pahi e whakamahi ana i nga arai
kanohi me nga pirihimana. Te
whakamahi i tetahi huarahi tino
kitea ki nga waahi waka te ako
me te whakatenatena i nga
kaimerihi, te tuku kanohi ki a
raatau. I wareware ki a ratou,
a kei runga i nga ara o Akarana
na matou Ka kite ano i te
anecdotal a tawhio noa 50% o
nga taangata e mau ana i te
kaarote. Kei te kite maatau i
te tini o nga taangata e pa ana
ki te taunga rererangi me te.
Kei te haere mai nga kauhou i
nga huarahi kawe i a Akarana, i
roto kei waho o Akarana, i te
mea kei te tarai nga
kaihokohoko. Ko nga mea pai kia
kitea. He tiimata tino kaha, me
te mea e tumanako ana tatou mai
i nga taangata Tmaki
Makaurau, kei te haere haere te
iwi, na, kia mihi ki a koe. Nga
tangata katoa mo te haere tonu
ki te taakaro i o raatau
waahanga, ka mihi ki a k

Maori: 
pakihi mo to ratou manawanui.
Kei te mohio au kua tino pouri,
he uaua hoki. He mea nui kia
raru ano, engari tika tonu
tenei ra kotahi o te taumata
mataara hou 2. I a tatou e mahi
ana i enei waahanga tuatahi me
nga taangata me te iwi. Ka
tiimata nga pakihi mo o raatau
ao, Kei te noho tonu a Tamaki
Makaurau mo te whakaaturanga
nui o te COVID-19 taumata 2. Na
e hiahia ana ahau ki te tuku i
etahi atu korero- ko te mataara
o nga taumata e wh I hangaia
te punaha mo te ahuatanga ka
kitea e tatou i roto i ta
maatau. Ka whakaaetia he waahi
kia mataara i te taumata 2 me
etahi nga take me te whakahaere
i nga keehi i roto i te hapori.
Kei te whai tonu tatou i nga
toenga o nga puawai o naianei,
ka tono matou ki nga taangata
katoa kia mau tonu nga mahi pai
e raua. Kua mahi ma te pupuri i
a ratau ano kia noho haumaru ai
etahi atu. Ka whai ana i nga
tohutohu, te pupuri i te
tawhiti, te kakahu ki te kanohi
kanohi. Kei te pupuri koe i nga
huihuinga ki te 10 iti ake
ranei i a Akarana. Ae, e tika
ana, ma te whakamahi i nga

English: 
stress again, though, that
this is just day one of the
new alert level 2. As we take
these tentative first steps
and people and businesses
start to go about their daily
lives again, Auckland remains
at a heightened version of
COVID-19 alert level 2. So I
want to give some reassurance
- the four level alert system
was designed for the situation
we new find ourselves in. It
allows a region to be at alert
level 2 with some contained
and managed cases within the
community. As we continue to
chase down the remnants of the
current cluster, we're asking
everyone to keep up the good
work that they have been doing
by keeping themselves and
keeping others safe. Following
the guidelines, keeping
distance, wearing masks when
you're in keeping gatherings
to 10 or less in Auckland and,
of course, using the
old-fashioned technology -
soap and water to wash your
hands or hand sanitisers.
These are relatively minor

English: 
inconveniences in return for
getting some normality back
into day-by-day life and if we
get into the habit of
observing them everyday, we
reduce the chances of having
to go back to alert level 3 or
4. And that's good for
everybody and particularly
good for the economy.
Contact-tracing is another
really important tool as we go
back down the alert levels and
we're reminding everybody to
get into the habit of scanning
QR codes. For many people in
Auckland who have been staying
home, while the rest of the
country over the last few
weeks have gotten into the
habit of using QR codes, for
some of them it will be become
- it's a new thing compared to
the way it's been for the rest
of the country over the last
few weeks. So if you don't
have a smartphone, make sure
you're manually recording your
details of where you have been
and who you have come into
contact with should that be
required. Along with isolating
returnees at the border for 14
days, and the rigorous
safeguards that we have put
around that and the high
volume of testing that we have

Maori: 
hangarau tawhito- taraera me te
wai hei horoi i o ringaringa ki
te horoi ringa ranei. He raru
iti nei te utu mo te whiwhi.
Etahi ritenga noa ki te ao-ra
ka eke ana tatou ki roto. Te
maatau mo te tirotiro i a
raatau i ia ra, ka whakaitihia
e maatau te waahi me hoki
whakamuri ki te taumata mataara
3, 4 ranei. Ana he pai mo te
katoa me te tino pai mo te
ohanga. Whakap mai-whakapapa
tetahi atu taputapu nui i a
tatou e hoki ana. Heke iho i
nga taumata mataara, kei te
whakamahara matou ki nga
taangata katoa kia u noho o te a
waehere QR. Mo nga tini tangata
kei Akarana e noho ana ki te
kaainga, ko nga toenga o te
whenua i nga wiki kua pahure
ake nei. Kua uru ki te
whakamahi i nga tohu QR, mo
etahi o ratou ka pai. Waikiri-
he mea hou i whakaritea ki te
ahua o tera ko nga toenga o te
whenua i nga wiki kua pahure
ake nei. Na, ki te kore koe e
atamai, kia mohio koe -ringa
-ringa  krero m te
whi i noho ai koe, . Ko wai
kua tae atu ki a koe me tika te
tono. Tae atu ki te wehe i nga

English: 
seen in the community,
effective and rapid
contact-tracing is the third
leg of our defence. On Friday,
QR codes will be mandatory,
the display of QR codes will
be mandatory on public
transport. The policy work has
been done, the order has been
created, but we are giving
transport operators an extra
couple of days to make sure
they have those QR codes in
place before that becomes a
legal requirement. The next
update of the COVID tracer app
is on track for release on
Thursday and that builds on
some of the feedback we have
had from New Zealanders. The
update will allow Kiwis to
save their national health
number in the app or their
national health index number
within the app that will help
us to speed up the
contact-tracing process. Also
potentially speeds up the
process of someone getting a
test when they need to get a
test. People will be able to
manually edit the entries in
their diaries even if they're
entries creating by scanning
QR codes. If people scan and
want to add more details to

Maori: 
hokinga mai i te rohe mo nga ra
14, me nga paruru kaha i
whakapumautia e taatau ki tera.
Nui o te whakamtautau i kitea
e matou i roto i te hapori,
whai hua me te tere-whakapiki
tere te tuatoru o to maatau
korero. I te Paraire, ka
whakamanahia nga waehere QR, te
whakaaturanga o QR Ko nga tohu
ka hainatia ki nga waka a te
iwi. Kua mahi te kaupapa here,
kua hangahia te ota, engari.
Kei te whakaratohia e maatau
nga kaiwhakarato waka mo etahi
atu ra. Kia mahara kei a raatau
nga waehere QR kei mua i tera
waa riro he whakaritenga ture.
Ko te whakahou i muri mai o te
COVID tracer taupnga kei te
maataki kia tukuna. I te
Rpare me te hanga i runga i
etahi o nga urupare a maatau
Tuhinga ka whai mai. Ma te
whakahoutanga ka ora a Kiwis ki
te whakaora i a raatau nama
hauora ki te motu i roto i te
taupnga, i to raatau nama
taupori hauora ranei a te motu.
Taupnga e te tauturu ia tatou
ki te tere tere te tukanga
whakap-whakap. Ka taea hoki
e te hunga te tiki he
whakamatautau ina hiahiatia ana
kia whiwhi waahi whakamatautau.
Ka taea e te tangata te
whakatika aunoa i nga whakauru
i a raatau. Rtaka ruarua mena
kei te hangai ki te whakauru ma

Maori: 
te matawai i nga waehere QR.
Mena ka matakitaki te iwi me te
hiahia ki te taapiri i etahi
atu taipitopito ki te r.
Urunga ka hangaia e tera mea,
ka taea e raatau te mahi te
whakahoutanga hou. Ka taea hoki
e te Manat Hauora ki te
whakarite. Nga matohi whakap
ka taea e maatau te pei atu. Ka
taea e nga kaiwhakamahi te tiki
tohutohu e whiwhi ana i te
tponotanga o te te ahua o te
huihuinga whakakii kua uru mai
pea enei. Kei te mahi hoki te
tari ki te whaka i nga
waahanga o muri ake.
Whakauruhia ki te whakahoutanga
nui o muri mai o tenei me tenei.
Tino whakauru te rapunga
whaipara bluetooth me te ra He
tirotiro hauora mo nga
taangata. Kei te piki haere te
tini o nga tangata o Aotearoa
Tuhinga o mua. Ko te maha o nga
whiu kei te whakatutukihia i ia
ra runga 1. 6 miriona. He nui
to matou waahanga o te taupori
kaore he tino haere, ka noho
hoki ki te kaainga. Kei te
haere tonu te tari ki te riro
mano, waehere QR tono

English: 
the diary entry that's created
by that, they'll be able to do
that with the latest upgrade.
The Ministry of Health will
also be able to customise the
contact alerts that we can
push out as well so that users
can receive advice that
receives the risk and the
nature of the exposure event
that they may have been part
of. The ministry is also
working to confirm the future
features that will be included
in the next major upgrade of
an and this could potentially
include bluetooth proximity
detection and daily health
checks for people in
isolation. An increasing
number of New Zealanders are
getting into the habit of
keeping track with the app.
The number of scans taking
place each day is now
averaging above 1. 6 million.
We had a significant portion
of the population not going
very far and largely staying
at home. The ministry is
continuing to receive
several,000 QR code requests
evidence. I'm also pleased
that the number of at this
stages have been carried out
at a good level. It's a huge
and sustained effort by many

Maori: 
taunakitanga. Kei te koa ahau
ki te maha o enei waahanga
mahia i te taumata pai. He tino
kaha me te whakapumautia e te
tini o nga tangata tuuturu.
Puta noa i te motu me tohu he
tohu whakamtautau Ko te
wahanga o ta maatau tiaki e
mahi ana i te mea kua
whakaarohia. Inanahi 7,219
whakamtautau i tukatukahia a
na reira ka puta katoa. Nama ki
te neke atu i te 60,000 mai i
ta matou i whakaatu i te
whakamatautau hou pupuhi. Kei
te whakaaro matou kia kite atu
i nga nama kua heke iho i runga
i te waa. Mutunga wiki- ko te
mea tenei ka waiho maatau kei
te haere tonu whakatenatena atu
te iwi kia whakamatautauria na
te mea e awhina ana tautuhi
tere i nga keehi. Ka aukati i
te horahanga COVID-19 ka
tiakina i nga tangata katoa. Ka
pa tenei ki nga tangata kua pa
ki nga tohu kia rite ki te
COVID-19. Ko enei e hono ana ki
te keehi COVID-19 ki nga waahi
ranei kei hea. I reira ano
etahi raru, mena kua paatai atu
koe ki tetahi atu. Kua paatai
ki tetahi keehi, mena kei roto
koe i tetahi o enei roopu, waea
koa ki a Healthline, ki to

English: 
dedicated people across the
country and it's a sign that
our testing system is part of
our defence is working as
intended. Yesterday 7,219
tests were processed and that
brings our total number to
more than 60,000 since we
announced the most recent
testing blitz. We do expect to
see the numbers drop off a
little bit over the weekend -
that tends to be our past
We're continuing to encourage
more people to get tested
because it helps to identify
cases quickly. It stops
COVID-19 spreading and it
keeps everybody safe. This
applies particularly for
people who have developed
symptoms consistent with
COVID-19. Those are connected
to a COVID-19 case or to the
sites where there have been
cases, or if you have been in
contact with somebody else who
has been in contact of a case,
if you're in one of these
groups, please call Healthline
or your doctor or visit a
testing station in order to
get a test. The tests are

English: 
free, they should be easy to
access for everybody with more
than 1,100 testing sites now
available throughout the
country including most GP
practises. With that, happy to
take questions. >> REPORTER:
Can people trust what they
read on the Ministry of Health
website. >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
I believe they can. >>
REPORTER: Incorrect
information up there for three
days. >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
You're talking about the issue
about who should be tested and
communications around who
should be tested? I think
there was some issues that
were lost in translation
there. The Prime Minister
canvassed those well yesterday
in her - when she stood here
yesterday. I'm confident they
have been addressed and
there's been some reflection
on how that came to be in the
first place to ensure those
sorts of misunderstandings
don't happen again. >>
REPORTER: What was lost in
translation? What was the
directed and why was it
published the way it was? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I think what
was - a relative long set of
guidance around what should be
tested was then translated
into a couple of sentences
which got put into a social

Maori: 
taakuta ranei, toro atu ki te
teihana whakamatautau  kia
puta he whakamatautau. Nga
whakamatautau koreutu, kia
ngawari hoki ta raatau uru mo
tangata katoa neke atu i te
1,100 nga waahi whakamatautau
kua waatea inaianei puta noa i
te whenua tae atu ki te nuinga
o nga whakaritenga GP. Ma te
aha, ka koa ki te tango i nga
paatai.
KAUPAPA: Ka tiimata te tangata
ki nga mea ka paohia e ratou i
te Paetukutuku Te Manat
Hauora. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ki taku whakapono ka
taea e ratou.
KAUPAPA: He korero kino kei
reira mo nga ra e toru. KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: E korero ana koe mo te
take mo wai me whakamatau me
nga whakawhitiwhiti korero a
tawhio noa ko wai e tika ana
kia whaka Ki taku
whakaaro kua pa etahi take i
ngaro i te whakamaoritanga i
reira. I whakapaetia e te
Pirimia te hunga i pai inanahi
nei- inanahi tu ana i konei
inanahi. Kei te whakapono ahau
kua whakatauhia e ratou a tera
etahi Whakaataata me pehea i
puta ai i te waahi tuatahi ki
te te whakarite kia kore e puta
ke ano nga ahuatanga kore. TE
WHAKAMAHI: He aha te mea ngaro
i te whakamaoritanga? He aha te
tohutohu me te take i
whakaputaina ai? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ki taku whakaaro he
aha te mea- he huinga roa
whanaunga te aratohu mo te mea
e whakamatautauria ana ka
whakamaoritia. E rua o nga

Maori: 
rerenga i puta ki te panui
ppori ppori, e kore hoki e
rua nga rerenga rerenga.
kairipoata: (ka korero tuturu).
KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ki taku whakaaro kua
nui te mahi ki te whakaaroaro
me pehea te marama ake o te
whakawhitiwhiti korero. Te
ti'aturi nei au e kua ako nga
tangata katoa ki te akoranga
tika mei te reira ka e piri.
KAUPAPA: Kei te awangawanga koe
kaore etahi o nga matua e tuku
ana ka tamariki ratau ki te
kura na te mea kei te
awangawanga ratau ki te
COVID-19? Tena pea he aha te
panui ki a raatau? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kei te mohio au ki te
awangawanga i reira. I kite
matou i tenei i muri i te arai
tuatahi i te wa tuatahi ka piki
ki raro ki te taumata 2. He wa
poto nei mo era tau whakauru mo
nga kura me nga pokap
khungahunga kia piki ake.
Ahakoa kei te maarama au i te
awangawanga, ko taku kupu ki
nga matua koinei he haumaru te
whakahoki mai i o tamariki ki
te kura. Kei te mahi nga kura i
nga mea taapiri e tika ana kia
mahia. Kia ora haumaru nga
tamariki ka hiahia matou ki te
kite i nga tamariki ki te hoki
kura no te mea 'he mea nui mo o
raatau tuunga kei te uru atu
taatau ki o raatau akoranga.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) ka
noho to kaainga ki te raatau
Kei te awangawanga nga matua?
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kaore he. Kei te
maarama ahau i te awangawanga a
nga matua engari ko ta maatau

English: 
media ad, not even a couple of
sentences. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY). >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I think a
lot of work has gone into
reflecting on how that
communication could have been
clearer. I'm confident that
everybody involved has learned
the right lesson from that and
that will be tightened up. >>
REPORTER: Are you concerned
that some parents aren't
sending their kids to school
because they're worried about
COVID-19? And perhaps what's
your message to them? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I do
understand the anxiety there.
We saw this after the first
lockdown when we first stepped
down to level 2. It took a
while for those attendance
numbers for schools and early
childhood centres to increase
again. While I understand the
anxiety, my message to parents
is it is safe to send your
kids back to school. Schools
are doing the extra things we
need them to do in order to
keep kids safe and we do want
to see kids back at school
because it' important for
their futures that they're
engaging in their education.
>> REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) stay home if
their parents are worried? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: No it's not.
I understand parents' anxiety
but our message very clearly
to them is do get your kids

Maori: 
korero tino maarama ki a raatau
ko te whakahoki i o tamariki ki
te kura. Ko o raatau mea kei
mua tenei o tenei. He maha nga
wa i a raatau i waho o te kura
kua tae atu ki tenei tau Kaore
matou e hiahia ki a ratau ki
waho o te kura i te mea kaore e
hiahiatia ana e r mai i te
kura. TE
WHAKAMAHI: He tika ano mo nga
akonga NCEA te noho
whakamtautau inaianei kua roa
kua puta mai i te kura? TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kua tiimata ke maatau
ki te NCEA i tenei tau tae atu
ki te whakauru i etahi atu
waahanga mo te he tauira he iti
nga tohu kua poto nei. Ka
korerotia e ahau i muri i nga
kapiti tuatahi. I peia e matou
te ra mo nga tukunga korero mo
enei kaupapa e- ana me
tautokohia e nga akonga nga
korero whakaata hoatu ki a
ratau he wa iti noa atu o te
waa. Kei te whakawhitiwhiti
whakaaro ahau me te Manatu o te
Haahi me nga kura e pa ana ki
etahi atu tautoko mo era- o
taua roopu nga akonga, otira ko
nga akonga tera pea ka mawehe
atu i tenei tau me whakarite
kia tutuki i a ratau NCEA. Ko
tetahi o nga mea e mahi ana
matou i tenei wa ko Tokoroa. Te
Kura Kakano. Kua whakaekea e
ahau mo nga tau e rua kua hipa
i te kura raumati. Mo era
akonga tera pea he iti noa nga

English: 
back to school. Their futures
depend on this. They had a lot
of time out of school already
this year and we don't want
them out of school when they
don't need to get out of
school. >> REPORTER: Is it
fair for NCEA students to sit
exams now given it's been so
long out of school? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: We have made
some changes around NCEA this
year including putting extra
measures in place for students
who might be a few credits
short. I announced that after
the first lockdown. We pushed
out the date for portfolio
submissions for those subjects
that - where students need to
support portfolios to give
them that little bit of extra
time. I'm in conversations
with the Ministry of Education
and with schools about what
extra support those - that
group of students,
particularly the students who
might be leaving this year may
need to make sure they can
complete their NCEA. One of
the things we're working
through at the moment is
Tokoroa, The Correspondence
School. I have been offering
for the last couple of years a
summer school for those
students who perhaps are just
a few credits short and need
to do a bit of catch-up
learning over the summer and

English: 
we're looking at whether we
can make that more widely
available to those students
who might need to do extra
catch up for the NCEA. >>
REPORTER: When did you first
learn about the issue of
miscommunications about the
testing. >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
Same time yesterday morning.
>> REPORTER: About the same
time the Prime Minister found
out? >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
Alright exactly. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY). >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I didn't
find out until after the radio
interview. >> REPORTER: Just
following up on that, the
information seems - the
misinformation seems to be
much further than just a
Facebook post. It's on a
website. We understand
Healthline staff were giving
out incorrect information. How
did it happen? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I think one of the
things that health officials
were grappling with here is we
do want to send the message
out there that it's not only
people who are symptomatic in
those communities who may be
asked to be tested. And
there's been a bit of pushback
from people saying if I'm not
showing Sims - actually from

Maori: 
whiwhinga poto me te Me mahi e
koe tetahi waahanga akoako mo
te raumati ka titiro tatou.
Mena ka taea e taatau te
whakamahi i era atu waahanga ki
era. Ko nga akonga pea me kaha
ki te rapu kaupapa mo te NCEA.
KAUPAPA: I te wa i ako tuatahi
ai koe mo te take Tuhinga o
mua. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He wa ano inanahi
inanahi.
KAUPAPA: I te waa o te waa i
kitea ai e te Pirimia? TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He tika tonu.
kairipoata: (ka korero tuturu).
KAUPAPA
HIPKINI: Kaore au i kitea kia
whai muri mai i te uiui i te
reo irirangi
KAUPAPA: Ka whai ake tonu i
runga i taua korero, nga korero.
Te ahua- ko te pohehe te ahua
he nui ake i te tika he pou
Facebook. Kei runga i tetahi
paetukutuku. Kei te maarama ta
maatau nga kaimahi Hauora e
tuku ana i nga korero he kore.
Nahea i puta ai? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ki taku whakaaro ko
tetahi o nga mea e hauora ana i
ohorere nga Apiha ki konei ko
ta matou e hiahia ana ki te
tuku i te. Panui ki reira kaore
ko nga tangata anake e noho. He
tohu i roto i aua hapori ka
tonoa kia whakamatautauria. Ana

Maori: 
kua roa noa te pana mai i nga
taangata e kii ana mena. Kaore
e whakaatu ana i a Sims- mo
etahi o nga ko nga kaiwhakaako
hauora, he GP me etahi atu,
mena kaore i te tangata. E
whakaatu ana kia whiwhi ratou i
nga tohu- tohu, me uru mai he
whakamatautau? He maamaa mena
ka kii kia whiwhi koe i tetahi
whakamatautau ahakoa koe koe
Kaore e whakaatu ana i a Sims,
kei te to tono koe mo tetahi
take na te mea o te hapori e
noho nei koe, te meatau e mahi
tatou tirotiro i reira ki te
whakarite kua tino maatau i
taatau te katoa o nga keehi i
nga taha o te tautau. Ki taku
whakaaro he maarama etahi o aua
whakawhitiwhiti kia marama ake
au, kei te tino whakapono ahau
kei te tika he tino- e mohio
ana koe, tena na koutou kia
kati. TE
TAKI: ki te whakatutuki i nga
whaainga? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kare, kaore au e
penei. Ki taku whakaaro he pai
te korero huri noa i te
whakamatautau whakamate Ko
tetahi tetahi kua oti noa atu e
matou te waa. Na, ko te maatau
tena- a ka rereke. E mohio ana
koe, i roto i nga huarahi
rereke, i puta he ngaru nui o
te whakamatautau.
Ka tiimata ka kite matou i nga
taangata e haere ana kia
whakamatautauria Ko te tikanga
kaore o te iwi i te aroaro o te
tira. Ka rite ki ta maatau i
waho o tera taha o te putiputi

English: 
some of the health
practitioners, GPs and others,
if people aren't showing
should they get a -- symptoms,
should they get a test? It's
clear if you're asked to get a
test even if you're not
showing Sims, you're being
asked for a reason because of
the community you live in, the
fact we are doing surveillance
there to make sure that we
have absolutely picked up all
of the cases around the edges
of the cluster. I think it's
clear some of those
communications could have been
clearer and I'm absolutely
confident that those are being
very - you know, really
tightened up now. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) to give
those testing numbers up to
meet the targets? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: No, I don't think so.
I think clearly the message
around asymptomatic testing is
one that we have canvassed
quite a bit. And the fact
we're - and it does change.
You know, in different ways,
we had a big wave of testing
in the beginning and we saw
yick people queuing up to get
tested which meant symptomatic
people weren't at the front of
the queue. As we come out of
the other side of the cluster
and as we start to get - we're
confident that we have that

Maori: 
me o tatou tiimata ka tiimata-
kei te tino mohio taatau ka nui
ake taatau kei roto, ko taatau
e hiahia ana kia kite i nga
whakamatautau taangata e haere
mai a ano hoki i etahi o enei
waahanga. Heoi, ehara i te mea
ko te katoa he whakamatautau.
Ki taku whakaaro nei kaore pea
i tino maamaa pera me te
tikanga.
KAUPAPA: I hea i pohehe ai? Kei
hea te peere? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ka mutu ka mutu me te
kawanatanga , me whakaae au
ki te haepapa m taua kaupapa
pnei i te Pirimia. Kei te
hiahia au ki te tohu atu,
ahakoa, kaore ano o matou i
kite i enei whakawhitiw i mua ia
atu. Ki taku whakaaro me ta te
Pirimia i whakaatu inanahi, kei
reira etahi whakahirahira huri
noa i te panui utu i tenei wa.
No te mea kei roto matou i te
waa kua whakaritea, ka whakaaro
au ko te tikanga kihai nga
rangatira i mohio, e mohio ana
koe ki te whakahaere i nga kupu
o. Aua panui i mua i a maatau
ki nga huarahi kua paahitia i
mua. A ko ta matou whakautu ki
a raatau ko nga mea kia haere
tonu mai ratou mahi, e mohio
ana koe, ehara enei i nga mahi
trangap pnuitanga,
pnuitanga pono tenei. Kei te
hiahia matou kia kite i a
raatau i mua i te putanga atu.
Ko tera huinga whakamutunga o
nga kanohi, i etahi wa ka tiro
i nga mea ko nga tangata katoa
i roto i te mekameka kaore i

English: 
more contained, we actually do
want to see the asymptomatic
testing coming up again in
some of these areas. That
doesn't mean everybody getting
a test, though. I think that
that perhaps wasn't as clear
as it should have been. >>
REPORTER: Where did it go
wrong? Where does the buck
stop? >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
Ultimately stops with the
government and I clearly
accept responsibility for that
as does the Prime Minister. I
do want to point out, though,
neither of us saw these
communications before they
went out. I think as the Prime
Minister indicated yesterday,
there is some sensitivity
around paid advertising at the
moment because we're in the
regulated period and I think
that meant that officials
didn't, you know, run the
wording of those
advertisements past us in the
way that might have done
previously. And our feedback
to them has been that they
should continue to do that,
you know, these are not
political advertisements,
these are factual
advertisements. We want to see
them before they go out. That
last set of eyes, sometimes,
spots things that everybody
else in the chain might not
have spotted. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) because
you found out yesterday

English: 
morning that it wasn't - the
Prime Minister didn't
proactively try to correct the
record where she was at the
podium today. I don't think
the website came down until
that afternoon. So there needs
- there's some disconnect,
isn't there, between the
officials and the government
and how you're correcting
that? And the Prime Minister
was (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) when
she was saying that it was
just a headline, it wasn't, it
was far more than that and
just wasn't on Twitter. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I don't
accept that. I think the Prime
Minister spoke very openly
about that when she stood here
yesterday. I wasn't here, but
I did watch it on TV. >>
REPORTER: Is there ever a
directive from Cabinet or
yourself to the ministry or
any sort of plan to have a
testing regime in South
Auckland and West Auckland
where everybody was tested? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: No. >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) were you
surprised there are only 7,200
people being tested? Did you
expect that number to go up
given that that morning a lot
of West and South Aucklanders
went and got tested? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: The feedback

Maori: 
piro.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) i te
mea i kitea e koe. Inanahi
inanahi na kare- kaore te
Pirimia i whai kiko. Ngana ki
te whakatika i te rekoata i a
ia i te podium i enei ra. E
kore au e kii kua heke mai te
paetukutuku tae noa ki taua
ahiahi. Na reira e hiahia ana-
kei reira ano etahi hononga,
kaore i reira, i waenga nga
rangatira me te kawanatanga me
pehea te whakatikatika i tera?
Na ko te Pirimia (E WHAKAARO
ANAKE) i a ia e noho ana e kii
ana he tuhinga noa iho, ehara i
te mea, he tawhiti nui atu i
tena kaore noa i runga i
Twitter. KAUPAPA
HIPKINI: Kaore au e whakaae ki
tera. Ki taku mahara i korero
tino marama te Pirimia mo taua
waa ina ia i t inanahi nei.
Kaore au i konei, engari i
matakitaki ahau i te TV. TE
TAKI
KORE-TINO: He tohutohu ano no
te Kapeneta tena koe ki te mahi
minita me etahi atu mahere
ranei e whai ana te rehitatanga
whakamtautau i te tonga o
Akarana me Tamaki Makaurau e
noho ana i whakamatauria? TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: No.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) i
miharo koe ki reira ko 7,200
anake te hunga e whakawakia
ana? I whakaaro koe ka piki ake
taua nama i taua ata. He maha
nga uru o te Hauauru me te

English: 
I got this morning, is that
there was a bit of a flurry
activity around a couple of
testing sites in the morning
and that had faded away by the
afternoon. And therefore, the
- any additional pressure at
those testing sites was
relatively short-lived. >>
REPORTER: To be clear, can you
tell us who - which
asymptomatic people need to be
tested? Is it just those who
have had contact with COVID
places and COVID cases? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: The
contact-tracing system will be
identifying areas where there
is greater vulnerability. So
that can be the contacts of
contacts, depending on the
context of what they're
investigating and so they'll
be getting in touch with
people and asking them to do
extra tests. If there are
people in those communities
who are a bit more concerned
and want to get a test, they
should not be denied a test.
But we are not saying to all
of South and West Auckland
they all have to get a test.
>> REPORTER: What about
company wide, what
asymptomatic testing should be
done country-wide? >> MINISTER

Maori: 
tonga o Akarana ki te Tonga e
whakamatau ana? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ko te urupare i whaaia
e ahau i te ata nei, ko. He iti
noa te mahinga a tawahi. O nga
waahi whakamatautau i te ata me
te heke atu i te ahiahi. Na
reira, ko te- etahi atu pehanga
i era he waahi poto noa iho nga
waahi whakamatautau.
KAUPAPA: Kia maarama, ka taea e
koe te korero ki a koe- ko wai
te ahua tipurangi me
whakamatautauria te iwi? Koinei
noa te hunga kua paatai ki nga
waahi COVID a Ko nga keehi
COVID? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ko te punaha
whakapiri-whakapapa ka pai te
tautuhi i nga waahanga ka nui
ake te whakaraeraetanga. Na e
taea e te hoap o hoap, tei
runga i te horopaki o ta raatau
rangahau e pa ana ki a raatau.
Te toro atu ki nga taangata me
te tono kia nui atu nga
whakamatautau. Mena kei te noho
etahi o nga hapori nei he nui
ake te hunga e awangawanga ana
me te hiahia kia puta he
whakamatautau. Engari e kore
nei e kii ki te katoa o te
tonga me te uru o Akarana ki a
raatau kei te katoa te
whakamatautau.
KAUPAPA: He aha e p ana ki te

Maori: 
kamupene whanui, he aha te
huakore me whakamatautau te
mahi? TE KAUPAPA
WHAKAMAHI: I runga i nga mea e
tika ana kia mahia kia whiwhi i
nga pauna me nga nama tika mo
nga whakamatautau mo te
tirotiro. He iti te rewharewha
o te rewharewha o tenei hotoke.
Ko tetahi waahanga tera na te
mea he nui ke atu o te
rewharewha mo taatau jabs i nga
wa o mua ka noho nga tangata ki
te kaainga mo te w roa. Ko te
tikanga he iti ake te kite o
nga taangata e rite ana ki nga
mate rewharewha he
whakaaturanga mo te
whakamatautau. I tenei wa kaore
au i kite i tetahi tohu e raru
ana matou. Mau tonu o maatau
taumata tirotiro- puta noa i
nga taumata whakamatautau puta
noa i te whenua. Engari i te wa
kei te heke mai mena ka kite
tatou i te heke o nga nama, i
runga i te horopaki ko te
huringa morearea ranei, taatau
pea i etahi atu iwi
asymptomatic kia whakamatauria
mo nga kaupapa o te tika te
pupuri i te tirotiro. Engari i
te waa kaore tatou i taua
tuunga.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) mo
nga tangata e hiahia ana ki kia
whakamatautauria me nga tangata
ki te mahi i nga whakamatautau?
KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ko te take kei te
penei ake, Ae, ka puta nga

English: 
HIPKINS: That depends on what
needs to be done to get
balancing and numbers right
for surveillance tests. We do
have a relatively low rate of
influenza this winter. That's
partly because we have
administered more flu jabs
than ever before and people
stayed at home for a long
period of time. That meant
we're seeing fewer people with
flu-like symptoms presenting
for testing. At the moment I
haven't seen any evidence
we're struggling to maintain
our surveillance levels across
-- testing levels across the
country. But in the future if
we saw the numbers dropped
away, depending on the context
or the risk profile, we may
ask more asymptomatic people
to get tested for the purposes
of just maintaining a
surveillance. But at the
moment we're not in that
position. >> REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) for people who
want to to be tested and
people doing the tests? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: The issue is
in a situation like this, yes,
the testing priorities will
change, depending on where

Maori: 
kaupapa whakamatautau ki te, ka
whakawhirinaki ki te te wahi
kei a tatou i te huringa. No
reira i te tiimata o te waa
whakaweto, i reira tatou. E
ngana ana ki te whakatau kua
tohua katoatia te whnuitanga
o te tautau, ko ta maatau
kaupapa e aro ki nga tangata
whai tohu me te i runga i te
kaupapa e tonoa ana e maatau
kia whakamatautauria. Ko nga
tangata Asymptomatic kaore he
hononga e mohiotia ana ko te
kaupapa no te mea he ngoikore
noa te tupeketanga. Engari ka
rite ki te maatauranga o te
whakamatautau ka hiahia tatou.
Kia mau tonu o tatou nama
whakamatautau i a maatau ki nga
taumata iti o te aukati puta
noa i te hapori, na, ka mohio
koe, ka puta he turanga mo atu
whakamtautau asymptomatic me
tera momo taiao. Ae, kei te
maarama ahau kei te waimarie te
iwi ki te pupuri ki ake. Tena
ko te ahua o ta taatau mahi. Ka
huri te ahuatanga ka
whakatauhia i runga i nga mahi
o ia ra Kei te korero mai nga
uiui.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) ka
taea e koe te homai ki a matou.
He whakahoutanga mena he pai
ranei taau hono ki te hono ki
te puawai taketake? A no tenei
punaha hoki, ka puta he ripoata
mo te hahi i hui mo nga hui
karakia i nga waa kati tonu, ka
taea e koe te korero ki tena.
TE KAUPAPA

English: 
we're at in the cycle. So at
the beginning of a lockdown
period, where we were trying
to make sure that we got a
fully identified the scope of
the cluster, our focus is
there on symptomatic people
and on the context that we're
asking to be tested.
Asymptomatic people with no
known association aren't the
priority because the risk is
still reasonably low. But as
we get through that bulk of
testing and we want to keep
our testing numbers up as we
ease into lower levels of
restrictions across the
community, then, you know,
there'll be grounds for more
asymptomatic testing and that
kind of environment. Yes, I do
understand that people
sometimes struggle to keep up
with that. That's the nature
of what we're dealing with,
though. The situation does
change based on what each
day's investigations are
telling us. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) are you
able to give us an update as
to whether you managed to link
that back to the original
cluster? And also from that
cluster, we had reports that
the church was meeting for
prayer meetings during the
lockdown period, can you speak
to that. >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
The contact-tracing teams are

Maori: 
KAUPAPA: Te kapa
whakapapa-whakapapa kei te
tirotiro haere i aua whakapae
katoa. Kaore au e korero mo nga
hui ka taea. Tera pea i
paahitia i te waa- i te waa
kati i tenei wa. Ko nga korero
mo te hononga honohono, tera
ano etahi- e mohio ana maatau.
Te hono ira tangata e hono ana
ratou engari ki nga tikanga o
te hononga arorau epdeem kei
reira tonu etahi atu tirotiro
tupu ana ki reira. Kei kona
etahi ahuatanga, engari kaore
au e hiahia ki te tautuhi i nga
taangata ki a raatau pea e
whakaaro ana tera kua tupu.
Engari he iti noa te maarama e
mahi ana ratou. TE
TAKOTOHO: I runga i nga keehi
kawemai i enei ra, tokotoru o
te waa kei i ko te rerenga taua
i te 22 Akuhata. Koinei te
rerenga rere me nga keehi e
whitu i te 22 Akuhata? E 10
ng keehi mai i te rerenga
kotahi? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ka taea e au te hoki
atu ki te tirotiro i tera.
Engari ki te tirohia e koe nga
korero mo aua korero ko nga
keehi me nga
Kaiwhakahaere-Tianara kei a

English: 
investigating all of those
claims. I don't have anything
to say on the potential
meetings that may have
happened during the - during
the lockdown at this point. In
terms of a likely link, there
are some - we know through the
genomic sequencing they are
linked but in terms of the
epdeem logical link there's
still some further
investigation happening there.
There's some potential
scenarios, but I don't want to
identify the particular people
where they may think that
might have happened. But they
have got a few leads that
they're working their way
through. >> REPORTER: On the
imported cases today, three of
those on the same flight on 22
August. Is that the same
flight as the seven cases on
22 August? Have we got 10
cases from one flight? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I can go
back and check that. But if
you look at the information
about those particular cases
and the acting
Director-General may have
them, you'll see that these
people were retested again
after receiving negative day

Maori: 
ratou pea, ka kite koe i
riihitia ano enei iwi i muri i
tana whiwhinga kino. I nga ra e
toru mo nga whakamatautau na te
mea i mohiohia nga hoapara a te
tangata ko wai hoki i
whakamatau pai. Na tera e pai
ana te tikanga kei te rere ano
ratou. ROBYN
SHEARER: Kaore au i te tuku i
tera korero ki te ringa.
KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ka pai pea koinei te
hononga.
WHAKAPAPA: He aha te maha o iwi.
Nuku haere ki MIQ (WHAKAAHUA
TINO) kei te neke haere tonu
koe ki MIQ kei reira e whai
kiko ana? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kei te neke tonu tatou
i nga tangata ki MIQ. Ko enei
tau ka rere ke i roto i nga
tikanga o te hunga e ora ana,
me era atu. A kua kite matou i
nga keehi o nga keehi i te
wiki, ehara i te katoa ahakoa
ka neke ano ratou ki MIQ. He
tukanga kei a raatau te
whakatau i nga tangata kia uru
ki MIQ. Ko etahi taangata he
iti nga mea hei whakarite ma
ratou, ka tiakihia e te tangata
nga pepi me aha ra. Engari, ae,
ko te kaupapa here ko te neke
tonu i nga tangata ki te
taapiri ia kei te tino pai te
whakamatautau. Ki te tapaea te
whai waahi mo o raatau whanau-
kei a ratou nga hoaparatanga o
te kaainga kia uru atu ai ki a

English: 
three tests because they were
known contacts of people who
had otherwise tested positive.
So that could well mean they
were on the same flight. >>
ROBYN SHEARER: I don't have
that information to hand. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: Could well
be that's the link. >>
REPORTER: What's the number of
people moving into MIQ (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) are you still
moving people into MIQ there
that are positive? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: We are still moving
people into MIQ. Those numbers
fluctuate in terms of people
recovering and so on. And we
have seen a flurry of cases
over the weekend, not all of
them will have yet moved into
MIQ. They have a process they
get people to get into MIQ.
Some people have a few things
they have to organise, people
look after the pets or
whatever. But, yes, the policy
is still to move people into
quarantine when they are
testing positive. And to offer
the opportunity for their
household - their immediate
household contacts to join
them as well. Report orth on
mask-wearing, how soon with

English: 
the (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
approach to penalising people
when they start risking public
health? >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
Nine out of ten so far in
Auckland today. About 50% of
people on the streets are
wearing masks as well which is
a sign. People are taking this
seriously. So, look, we'll
keep it under review. At this
point, I'm confident that an
educated and formal approach
is working and people are
taking it seriously. >>
REPORTER: The new case that
was reported that wasn't
linked to the main cluster,
has that been
epidemiologically linked since
yesterday. And there is
genomic sequencing. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: The genome
sequencing is being done
today. >> REPORTER: And the
link hasn't been found in the
meantime of the likely
transmission? >>. >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: There is a potential
link. There's a potential
epidemiological link but more
investigation is happening
there. The threshold for when
people say, you know, it's
linked, it's quite high. So
they run down all of the

Maori: 
ratau. Korerohia te taatai mo
te kakahu-kanohi, pehea te roa
me te (WHAKAARO. TE WHAKAARO)
te huarahi ki te whiu i te
hunga ka tiimata ana whakamate
i te hauora tmatanui? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: E iwa mai i te tekau i
tua atu ki Akarana i enei ra.
Tata ki te 50% o nga taangata
kei runga o te huarahi e mau
ana i te kanohi kanohi he tohu.
Kei te kaha te kawe a nga iwi.
Na, tirohia, maatau tonu e
taatete. I tenei wa, kei te
whakapono ahau he maatauranga
me te whai mana kei te mahi te
huarahi, kei te kaha te
whakatau i a raatau.
KAUPAPA: Ko te keehi hou i
korerotia ko te kore i honohono.
Ki nga puawai matua, kua
honohono ke atu ki te mate
inanahi. Na ka puta mai te
whakaurunga ira tangata. TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kei te whakahaerehia
te raupapa ira mo tenei ra.
KAUPAPA: A kaore ano i kitea he
hononga i tenei waa o te tuku
pea?. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He hononga ano pea.
Kei kona tonu te hono
epidemiological engari he maha
nga mahi rangahau kei te tupu i
reira. Ko te paepae mo te
korero a te iwi, e mohio ana

Maori: 
koe, he hononga. he tino
tiketike. Na ka rere ratou ki
raro i nga mea ka taea. Ka
whiwhi taunakitanga-kaha i mua
i ta raatau hiahia, koe kia
mohio, mea atu tera- he hononga
tika kei kona.
KAUPAPA: He nui ake nga rauemi
kei te uru ki te tirotirohia
(korero maamaa)? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He mana taatau ki te
tauine mehemea e tika ana. I
tenei wa kei te whana tonu
tatou i o taatau whaainga kei
roto. Tikanga o- nga hoap kei
te- ina mohiotia nga hoap
tapiritia ki te punaha, kei te
whakapiri wawe atu ki a raatau.
Me te wahi e tika ana kia
tukuna atu ki te rapu ratonga
kaore he taipitopito whakap,
he pai te mahi tere. Mena ka
hiahia tatou ki te kawe atu i
nga taangata ake kia kaha ki te
toha, kua riro ia matou te kaha
ki te mahi i tera. I whiwhi
maatau etahi rahui i reira ka
taea te whakahohehia kia tere.
A, kei reira ano he rahui ka
taea e tatou te whakahohe. I
tenei wa kei te whakahaerehia
te punaha whakahaere i roto i
te putea kei a ia.
KAUPAPA: He aha te ahua o nga
nama i roto i nga tikanga o te
rahui? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: I tenei wa kei te 350

English: 
possibilities and make sure
they got a fairly strong
evidence-based before they
would, you know, say that it's
- there's a clear link there.
>> REPORTER: Are more
resources being put into
contact-tracing (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY)? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: We have the ability
to scale up if we need to. At
the moment we're still hitting
all of our targets in terms of
- the contacts are being -
when known contacts are added
to the system, they're being
contacted very quickly and
where they need to be sent off
to find a service because we
don't have contact details,
that process is happening
reasonably quickly. If we need
to bring more people in to
keep up with demand, we got
the ability to do that. We got
some reserve already there
that could be activated having
quickly. And there's a further
reserve we could activate as
well. At the moment the system
is operating within the
capacity that it has. >>
REPORTER: What sort of numbers
in terms of the reserve? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: At the
moment there's about 350
people on call. That can be
expanded to 500 reasonably
quickly. And as I have

English: 
indicated before, we could
have 1,000 people with a bit
of planning and with pulling
other people into that
process. >> REPORTER: How
often have people being sent
random test results from other
people and how (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY)? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I'm not familiar with
what the issue there is. Are
you suggesting that some
people are being sent someone
else's test results? I haven't
heard any examples of that. If
there are, then obviously
we'll keen to hear about those
to make sure we're nailing all
of that down properly. I do
know in the early part of this
- there was some issues around
linking national health
numbers to test results. That
process has improved
dramaticallien and so there
should be less of that. If
there was some in the early
part, I think, that's... >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) more recent
examples. How concerning would
that be if a person's - the
medical details or the details
of that person's private
information which you receive
in those test results are sent
to other people, how
concerning would that be? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: We need to
look at the particular cases

Maori: 
pea nga tangata ka karanga. Ka
taea te toro atu ki te 500 kia
tere ake. Na, kua tohua e ahau
i mua, ka taea e tatou te 1,000
tangata. Me tetahi whakamahere
me te kukume i etahi atu ko te
tukanga.
KAUPAPA: He maha nga wa ka
tukuna te tangata mo te
whakamatautau tupurangi hua mai
i etahi atu taangata me pehea
(TE WHAKAARO KI TE WHAKAMAHI)?
KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kaore au i te maarama
ki te take he aha te take. Kei
te whakaatu koe kei te tukuna
etahi iwi ko nga hua
whakamatautau a tetahi atu?
Kaore ano au kia rongo i nga
tauira o tera. Ki te mea ana,
katahi ka tino hiahia tatou ki
te whakarongo mo nga mahi e
tika ana ka peia katoahia e
matou te katoa. E mohio ana
ahau ki nga waahanga o mua o
tenei- i kitea etahi putake te
hono atu ki nga nama hauora a
motu mo nga whakamatautau. Kua
pai ake te mahinga a te mahi, a
he iti ake te ahua o tera. Mena
i reira etahi i te timatanga
wawe, ka whakaaro ahau, tera
...
KAUPAPA: (WHAKAAHUANGA
TUPUTANGA) tauira ake nei. He
aha te take ka pa ki te tangata-
te rongoa taipitopito me nga
korero ranei mo nga korero a
taua tangata ake. Ka whiwhi koe
i aua hua whakamatautau ka
tukuna ki etahi atu, me pehea

Maori: 
noa? KAUPAPA HUI
KORE: Me tiro tatou ki etahi
atu Ko nga keehi o te waewae ka
kitea he aha i puta he. Ko
tetahi take me nga punaha o
naianei e mahi ana ahau. I
tenei wa me te roopu rangatira,
ko te iwi ke He maha nga
huarahi o te uniana hauora mo
te ripoata i nga hua
whakamatautau. He pai ki a au
mehemea he tikanga kua
whakaritea. I whai korero ta
maatau kia pai ake ai te rere
ka ka tupu.
KAUPAPA: Kei te mohio koe ki
nga hapa kua he nga
whakamatautau pai ka tukuna ki
te tangata he? ROBYN
SHEARER: Kaore au i te mohio,
kaore.
KAUPAPA: Ae, Minita, mo te
patai a Amelia ko te hunga e
haere ana ki MIQ. Kei a koe nga
nama o nga tini e hia i roto i
te (WHAKAARO TAKE) nga
ahuatanga na te mea kaore e
taea e ratau te haere ki reira
mena he aha te take? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Kaore e nui. He tino
koa ahau ki te tiki atu i a koe
i aua tau. Ka taea e au te
korero atu ki a koe mo nga
keehi 107 e kaha ana ki a tatou.
Ka rite ki enei ra, me tenei
ata, 85 kei roto taratahi hoki
tawhiti. Na he iti noa atu
etahi atu i waho atu ko tera
pea i roto i tetahi

English: 
toe see where it went wrong.
One of the issues with the
current system which I'm
working on at the moment with
the officials team, the
different public health unions
have different ways of
reporting the test results.
I'd be much more comfortable
if it was a standardised
approach. We had conversations
what would it take to get that
up and running and happens. >>
REPORTER: Are you aware of any
mistakes made with positive
tests being sent to the wrong
person? >> ROBYN SHEARER: I'm
not aware of that, no. >>
REPORTER: Just, Minister, on
Amelia's question about those
going to MIQ. Do you have the
numbers of how many in (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) situations
because they can't go there
for whatever reason? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: Not very
many. I'm certainly happy to
get you those numbers. I can
tell you that of the 107
active cases that we have got
as of now, or as of this
morning, 85 are in quarantine
so far. So there are still a
few more out there that will
either be in a bespoke
arrangement or that it will be
on their way. I'm happy to
give you a breakdown of those

Maori: 
whakaritenga appoke ka haere
ana ranei. Kei te koa ahau ki
te tuku i a koe i a ratau o te
whakaritenga.
KAUPAPA: I te taupnga, i kii
koe ka taea e te whakahoutanga
o muri atu. Whakauruhia te
bluetooth (TUARUA WHAKAMAHI),
ara- kei. Kua whakatauhia e te
kawanatanga te whakatau kaupapa
hei neke i te taupnga ki
runga ki (WHAKAARO TINO)?
KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kua whanake tonu,
mohio koe, paipa mo te
taupnga. He roa te raina
whanaketanga me te waahanga
katoa te nuinga o te kaha mahi
me te mea nui te whakarite i te
tuatahi kia tutuki ai nga tino
hiahia ki mahi kia rite ki te
mahi kia taea. Engari ko te
whakaurunga hangarau bluetooth
he waahi tonu i te
whakawhanaketanga. TE
TAKI: mena ka whakauruhia taua
mahi na te mea ka whakaiti i te
pkahiko te ora pea. Tei reira
(WHAKAARO TUATAHI)? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ki taku whakaaro
tetahi o nga mea mo te te mahi
whanaketanga kei te mahi koe i
roto i enei take katoa. Ae, i a
matou i te tuatahi i te
whakawhanake i te taupnga, i
wheako etahi atu wh. I te
wa i hurihia e ratou i te
bluetooth tika i te timatanga,

English: 
what arrangements are. >>
REPORTER: On the app, you said
the next update could include
bluetooth (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY), is that - has
the government made an in
principle decision to move the
app towards that (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY)? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: It's always been in
the development, you know,
pipeline for the app. The app
has quite a long development
pipeline with a whole lot of
potential functionty and the
key thing has been
prioritising that to meet the
most immediate needs and to
make it as functional as
possible. But the bluetooth
technology enablement has
always been in the
development. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) earlier
on worried about uptake of if
that functionality was
included because it would
reduce battery life possibly.
Was there (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY)? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I think one of the
things about the development
process is you work through
all of those issues. Yes, when
we were first developing the
app, other countries
experienced was when they
switched on bluetooth right at
the beginning, it created
other problems. So one of the
things about, you know, the

Maori: 
i hangaia etahi raruraru. Na,
ko tetahi o nga mea e pa ana, e
mohio ana koe, ko te huringa
whanaketanga. No te mea ka
tirohia e koe mehemea he rongoa
mo te katoa o nga raru pea.
KAUPAPA: He aha te taima o te
waa whakahou nui? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: He ara tonu tera. E
kore ko ia te whakahoutanga e
whai ake nei ka tupu ake nei.
KAUPAPA: Ka taea e tatou te
whakahoutanga mo nga keehi
rangatira me nga keehi ranei.
Kaore e taea e koe te hono atu
ki nga mate ki te taketake
Akarana? Hei tauira, ko te
taangata i tuku i te hhipera
o North Shore a kia rua wiki
kua hoki mai, kua hono koe ki
te hono ki a ia? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kaore au e mohio mena
he korero taau. ROBYN
SHEARER: Kaore au i te kii
engari kei te mahi te roopu. Ki
taua mea e whaia ana engari
kaore au i tera taipitopito me
ahau i tenei ra. KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ko taku korero ko te
maha o nga keehi. Ko nga keehi
he hono katoa na te taha ira
tangata ranei or
epidemiologically. I etahi wa
ka pai te tango i nga mea e rua
o te waa me tera mahi. A, ki te
kore tetahi o aua hononga, na

English: 
development cycle for an is
you look through whether
there's solutions for all of
those potential problems. >>
REPORTER: What is the time
frame for that major update?
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: That's
still a way away. It will not
be the next update which will
be happening next week. >>
REPORTER: Can we have an
update on the mistris cases or
cases you can't
epidemiologically link the
cases to the original Auckland
cluster? For example, the man
who presented to North Shore
hospital a couple of weeks
back, have you been able to
link him to the cluster? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I don't know
whether you have that detail.
>> ROBYN SHEARER: I don't have
that detail but the team are
working on that so that is
being followed up but I don't
have that detail with me
today. >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
What I with say is the number
of cases - the cases are all
linked either genomically or
epidemiologically. Sometimes
reconciling those two things
can take a little bit of time
and that work is happening.
And where there isn't one of
those links, then of course we
have told people about that.

Maori: 
te akoranga kei a tatou i
korerotia ki nga tangata mo
tera. Ko te tikanga, kei te
mohio koe, mo te huringa, kite
koe i tera hono ka tiimata te
puta.
KAUPAPA: Minita, etahi
taunakitanga kei tua atu o tera
huaora D. Ka taea te whakaiti i
te tupono me te pakeke o te
COVID-19. Koinei etahi i
whakaarohia e te minita mehemea
ranei- taua tohutohu ka taea te
hoatu ki waho ...? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Titiro, ki taku
whakaaro kaore au e mohio
mehemea e hiahia ana k ki te
taapiri ake i tetahi mea ki
taua. He korero ke ki ahau. Ki
taku whakaaro he maha nga
korero kei kona i reira. He aha
pea te rongoa i te COVID-19, te
aha pea ka ngoikore ake Tuhinga
o mua. Ki taku whakaaro ko te
mea nui ko te whakawhirinaki
atu ki te tohutohu a ehara nga
mea katoa i nga haumanu ka
korero ki a matou. He kaikuti
kaikorero: Ko ta maatau kapa
hauora hapori e hono atu ki nga.
Taunakitanga o te ao huri noa i

English: 
Normally, you know, over the
cycle, you see that link will
start to emerge. >> REPORTER:
Minister, some evidence
overseas that vitamin D can
reduce the risk and the
severity of COVID-19. Is that
some thought by the ministry
as to whether that's - that
advice can be given out or...?
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: Look, I
think I don't know whether you
want to add anything to that.
That's news to me. I think
there's a lot of information
that's put out there about
what may cure COVID-19 or what
may reduce the risk of
COVID-19. I think the key
thing is to rely on the advice
of clinicians and that's not
something that the clinicians
have been telling us. >> ROBYN
SHEARER: Our public health
team actually keep in touch
with the international
evidence around best-effect
for COVID-19 and what's
emerging. So nothing that we

English: 
know of as yet. >> REPORTER:
Just on mental wellbeing, how
have you targeted Maori and
Pacific mental health
specifically? And do you have
the percentages of Maori who
have engaged with your
services today? >> ROBYN
SHEARER: So there's been a few
things that we put in place
since the beginning of
COVID-19. So one is ensure
that we keep in contact with
all of the national iwi groups
and have rallied support
through them. We have got some
specific funding that we have
put in place for Maori mental
health services and new
services as well as some
targeted campaigns for,
particularly for Maori and
Pacific. So those have been
rolling through. I don't have
the exact numbers of people
who have accessed those but we
can get those for you. >>
REPORTER: Some people in
Auckland and also around the
country, I think, are feeling
that we're moving out of
lockdown 2 early because
there's still community cases
out here. What would you say
to reassure them? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: The alert level

Maori: 
te tino pai mo te COVID-19 me
he aha te tupu. No reira kaore
ano kia mohiotia e tatou.
KAUPAPA: I runga noa i te
oranga hinengaro, me pehea te
whai i a koe Te hauora
hinengaro o te Maori me te
Moananui a Kiwa? A kua tae atu
pea nga pakeha o te Maori kua
mahi me o ratonga i tenei ra?
ROBYN
SHEARER: Na he maha nga mea ka
tukuna e matou i roto i te
waahi mai i te timatanga o
COVID-19. Na reira ko te
whakarite kia noho tonu tatou
ki nga mea katoa -iwi -iwi,
, kua whakangia e rtou te
tautoko. Kua whiwhi tatou i
etahi tahua motuhake i
whakaritea e taatau. Mo nga
ratonga hauora hinengaro Maori
me nga ratonga hou ano hoki ko
etahi o nga kaiwhaiwhai mo te
Maori me te Moananui a Kiwa. Na
ko enei ka huri i roto. Kaore
au e whiwhi i nga nama tika o
te hunga kua uru mai te hunga
engari maatau e taea te tiki
atu maau.
KAUPAPA: etahi tangata i
Akarana me etahi atu. Ki taku
titiro, ko te whenua kei te
ahua kei te haere tatou ki waho
o te raka 2 wawe no te mea ka
puta ake etahi keehi hapori i
konei. He aha ta koe e kii ai

Maori: 
ki te whakamana? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Te taumata mataara
punaha. I hangaia hei kuhu mai
i nga roopu o nga keehi. Ko nga
keehi hou katoa e kitea ana e
tatou he hoap e mohiotia ana.
Na he iwi ke noa ratou kei te
whaainga ko o raatau tino
whakamatautau. Na me tuku te
maia ki te iwi ko te punaha me
mahi i runga i te kaupapa. Ko
te punaha whakapapa-taatai e
hangaia ana hei whakahaere i
tetahi. Ara hei awhina ki a
tatou ki te whakapono ka taea
tonu e tatou te taumata pai o
te herekore i te wa e tutuki
ana tenei whakaritenga. Na ko
te mea ko nga taumata o te
mataara 4 me te 3 e pa ana ki
runga ake o te. He pakarutanga
mai pea, ka karapahia, ka tino
mohio tatou kua tautuhia, e
mohio ana koe, nga ahuatanga
katoa o nga ahuatanga ka tohua.
Ahakoa he keehi kaore e
mohiotia ana kei roto i te
Karauna Hapori, te ara mataara
2, he mea tika kia maatau mea
atu, "Ae, e mohio ana matou i
puta mai nga keehi i reira, ka
mohio tatou ki hea ko ratou, a
e mohio ana matou kei hea o
raatau hoapaki. "Na i tua atu i
tera, ka taea e te tiimata te

English: 
system is designed to
accommodate an isolated
cluster of cases in the
community. All of the new
cases that we are seeing are
known contacts so they're
people who are in isolation
when they're getting their
positive test results. So that
should give people confidence
that the system is working as
it's intended. The
contact-tracing system is
designed to operate in a way
that helps to give us
confidence that we can still
have a good degree of freedom
whilst this process is taking
place. So whereas alert levels
4 and 3 are about getting on
top of a potential outbreak,
scoping it out, making sure
that we have identified, you
know, all of the potential
scenarios, identifying whether
there's any unknown cases out
there in the community, alert
level 2, particularly is
designed for us to say, "Yes,
we know we got cases out
there, we know where they are,
and we know where their
contacts are." So other than
that, life can start to resume
for a greater number of
people. But with enhanced

English: 
protections in place. And so
that's why you see the limits
on gatherings to 10, it's why
we're asking people to wear
masks on buses and maintain
their social distancing. It's
why we're continuing to have
all of those extra measures in
place to provide that extra
security. >> REPORTER: Was
there due diligence done into
what's been (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) Green School? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: The Green
School was funded as a
shovel-ready project. It's a
private school. So in that
regard, their curriculum is
something they work with the
Ministry of Education about.
They follow the same criteria
as other private schools do.
They don't have to teach to
the New Zealand curriculum.
Private schools don't have to
teach to the New Zealand
curriculum. They do have to
demonstrate that they're
teaching something, you know,
broadly equivalent to the New
Zealand curriculum. But that
is ultimately at the
discretion of private schools.
But the funding of the capital
part of that, that actually
didn't go anywhere near the
Ministry of Education, it's
not education - it's not an
education budget that that has

Maori: 
timata ano ki te hoki ake
Engari me nga whakapae whakarei
ake i te waahi. Na, na reira ka
kite koe i nga rohe o nga
huihuinga ki te 10, he aha
matou ka tono ai ki nga
taangata kia taatai paowa kei
runga i nga pahi me te He aha
te take kei te haere tonu tatou
ki te whakauru i era atu
taapiri taapiri hei whakarato i
taua haumarutanga.
KAUPAPA: I tika te mahi i nga
mahi kua oti (WHAKAARO MAUI) Te
Kura Kino? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: I utua nga Kura Green
hei whangai kaupapa. He kura
motuhake. Na mo runga i taua
whakaaro, ko a raatau
marautanga he mea mahi me te
Thuhu o te Mtauranga e p
ana ki. E whai ana ratau i nga
paearu ka rite ki era atu kura
motuhake. Kaore rawa ratau hei
akoako ma te marautanga o
aotearoa. Ko nga kura motuhake
kaore i te ako ki nga Tau Hou
Aotearoa marautanga. E tika ana
kia whakaatu kei te whakaakona
ratau tetahi mea, e mohio ana
koe, he rite tonu ki a Aotearoa
marautanga. Engari tera ko te
mutunga o nga whakaaro o nga
kura motuhake. Engari ko te
tahua moni mo te whakapaipai
nui o tera, tera mau kaore i
haere ki nga waahi tata atu ki
te Manatauranga o te Haahi,

English: 
been funded out of. >>
REPORTER: What do you make of
the (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
community school at the
weekend saying the money
shouldn't have been spent
there? >> MINISTER HIPKINS:
Look, ultimately people are
free to have their own views
on whether or not they should
the project should have been
funded. >> REPORTER: A Labour
candidate is have his own view
on money that you and other
ministers signed off of. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: We're a
democracy. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY). >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I think the
reforms of vocational
education are part of Labour's
manifesto. The Green School is
not. >> REPORTER: On
asymptomatic testing - should
healthcare workers be tested?
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: Yes, we
are doing quite a lot of
testing in the Medicare worker
space. Obviously particularly
focused on the healthcare
workers who are working in
area where there is a higher
degree of risk. So you'd see
testing amongst health workers
and managed isolation and
quarantine facilities. The
healthcare workers at the
border. Health workers who are

Maori: 
ehara i te maatauranga- ehara i
te tahua maatauranga a tera
Tuhinga ka whai mai.
KAUPAPA: He aha ta koe e mahi
ai (KOREUTU HEI MAHI) te kura
hapori i te wiki mutunga e kii
ana i e kore kua moni i pau ki
reira? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Titiro, ka mutu kaore
he taangata mo te iwi ko o
raatau ake whakaaro e pa ana ki
te kaupapa kaore ranei kua
utuhia.
KAUPAPA: Ko te kaitono a Reipa
kei a ia ano te whakaaro moni
tena i hainatia e koe me etahi
atu minita. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He manapori taatau.
kairipoata: (ka korero tuturu).
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ki taku whakaaro ko
nga whakatikatika o te ao
matauranga he waahanga o te
whakaaturanga a Labour. Ehara
ko te Kura Kaupapaariki.
KAUPAPA: I te whakamatautau
whakamtautau- me hauora ka
whakamatauria nga kaimahi? TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ae, he nui rawa ta
matou mahi Tuhinga o mua. E
tino aro ana ki nga kaimahi
hauora ko wai hoki kei te mahi
i nga waahi kei reira he nui
ake te paanga. Na ka kite koe i
te whakamatautau i waenga i nga

English: 
working in hospitals where
people are hospitalised, where
there's positive cases in
hospital. >> REPORTER: What
about aged care workers? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: Certainly,
if doubt, they should be
getting tested. And where
there's a heightened degree of
risk and we had one that we
saw in - it was Morrinsville
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY), in
Morrinsville, we put a testing
station there to make sure
that we got those numbers up.
>> REPORTER: Is it targeted
into those places where
they're at risk or is that a
nationwide directive those
workers should get tested? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: It's not
necessarily greater risk. But
there's greater consequences
for the people in those
facilities if COVID-19 were to
make it through the door. And,
therefore, there's enhanced
protection if people working
in aged care facilities want
to get tested, we'd certainly
encourage them to do that. >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) healthcare
workers across the country. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: Yes. >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) last week you
indicated those responding to

Maori: 
kaimahi hauora me te noho wehe
me nga whare taraiwa. Nga
kaimahi hauora i te rohe. Ko
nga kaimahi hauora e mahi ana i
nga hohipera kei reira nga
taangata ka tukuna ki te
hohipera, kei reira nga keehi
pai i roto i te hohipera.
KAUPAPA: He aha te mahi mo nga
kaimahi tiaki pakeke? TE
KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: He pono, ki te feaa,
me peehia kia whakamatauria. A
ki te mea ka nui ake te mate o
taatau he mea kotahi ta tatou.
Tatou kite i roto i- ko
Morrinsville (WHAKAARO MAUTU),
i Morrinsville, i whakanohohia
e matou he waahanga
whakamatautau ki reira kia pai
mai ai kua tae mai aua
tau.
KAUPAPA: Kei te whaaia atu ki
roto i a raatau waahi kei reira
mrearea, ko te rahitanga
puta noa i te motu kia
whakamatautauria aua kaimahi
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ehara i te mea he nui
ake te mate. Engari he nui ake
nga mate o te iwi ko aua waahi
mena he COVID-19 ki te aata ma
te tatau. Na, na reira, kei
reira etahi whakamarumaru ki te
mea he tangata. Te mahi ki nga
whare tiaki pakeke e hiahia ana
kia whakamatautauria A
faaitoito ia ratou ia na reira.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA) nga
kaimahi hauora huri noa i te

English: 
COVID need the time to focus
on the work, what do you make
of reconvening. Is it
warranted or a distraction? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: I'm also
happy to answer questions
where I can. There's always a
balance between being prepared
to answer the questions so
you're informed and actually
doing the question answering.
We're at alert level 2. So if
I think the select committee
wants to meet, I have no
problems with the select
committee meeting. I'm happy
to front up and ask them and
answer all questions. >>
REPORTER: Concerning the
Tokoroa case. The concerning
feature for some of us
watching that this person was
tested and it was negative and
then they were tested again
and it came up. What's the
approaches towards encouraging
second tests for people in
sort of high risk areas? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: As part of
our surveillance testing, our
contact-tracing, we test all
of those people twice. They
get similar to what we do at
MIQ. They'll get a test and
then another day 12 test as
well. Then of course if they
start to show symptoms in the
meantime, then they'll get a
test then as well. We're

Maori: 
katoa te whenua. TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ae. TE
TAKI: ko te urupare ki a COVID
me whai i te waa ki te aro ki
te mahi, aha hanga e koe ki te
whakaaraara. He mea pumau ranei
na te raruraru ranei? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kei te koa ahau ki te
whakautu i nga paatai kei hea
Ka taea e au. He toenga i
waenga i te wa e rite ana ki te
whakautu i nga paatai. No reira
ka mohio koe me te mahi tonu i
te whakautu patai. Kei te
maatau te mataara 2. Na, ki
taku whakaaro ko te komiti
whiriwhiri ka hiahia kia tutaki
kaore he raru o te hui komiti
whiriwhiri. He harikoa ahau ki
te tuku i mua ka ui atu ki a
raatau me te whakautu i nga
paatai k
KAUPAPA: Mo te keehi o Tokoroa.
Ko te waahanga mo etahi o tatou
e matakitaki ana i tenei. I
whakamatauhia he tangata raanei
he kino i muri mai ka
whakamatautauhia ano te aranga
ake. He aha nga paatai ki te
akiaki i nga whakamatautau
tuarua mo te hunga i roto i nga
waahanga o nga waahi morearea?
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Hei waahanga o ta
maatau whakamatautau tirotiro,
to taatau hono-whakapiko, ka
whakamatauria e taatau katoa
nga taangata. He rite ki ta
taatau mahi ki MIQ. Ka whiwhi
ratou i te whakamatautau ka
whai atu ki tetahi atu ra 12
whakamatautau ano Ko te
akoranga mena ka tiimata ratou

English: 
keeping in contact with those
people after they had their
first test. Even if it was
negative, we still keep
contact. We offer them another
test if they start showing
Sims. If not, we particularly
give them another test at day
12. The vast majority of
people are keen to take that
because they want to eliminate
the possibility of them having
COVID-19 for their own peace
of mind. >> REPORTER: What
about broader context - not
necessarily the close
contacts. Do you have a
message to people, say, in
Tokoroa community, to get
tested for the second time? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: If they had
a test the first time around,
if they're feeling nervous or
anxious about I, of course
they can have another test.
Generally speaking, if they
are - if they haven't had an
exposure to the people who
have been, you know, cases,
then the res I can would be
very, very low for them if
they're not showing any
symptoms, but they can have
another test if they're
feeling anxious about it and
want to do that for their
peace of mind. >> REPORTER: Do
they stay in self-isolation
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY). >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: For the
contacts - for the known
contacts, yes they would be

Maori: 
ki te whakaatu i nga tohu o
roto te wkaka, ka riro i a
ratau te whakamatautau. Kei te
whakaputahia atu e matou ma aua
iwi ra ano i muri i a raatau
mahi ta ratou whakamatautau
tuatahi. Ahakoa he kino te
korero, ka piri tonu taatau. Ka
tukuna ano e maatau tetahi atu
whakamatautau mehemea ka
tiimata ana ratou ki te Ki te k,
maatau ake e tuku atu tetahi
whakamatautau ki a raatau i te
ra 12. Ko te nuinga te nuinga e
kaha ana ki te tango i tena mea
kei te hiahia ratou ki te
whakakore i te tupono ki a
raatau kei a COVID-19 mo ratou
te rangimarie o te ngakau.
KAUPAPA: He aha te korero mo te
horopaki whanui- ehara i te mea
ptata piri. Kei kona he
karere ki nga tangata, mea atu,
i te hapori o Tokoroa. kia
whakamatauria mo te wa tuarua?
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Mena i a raatau waa
whakamatautau a tawhio noa,
mena kei te awangawanga ranei
ratou kei te awangawanga ahau
mo au, o akoranga ka taea e
raatau tetahi atu
whakamatautau. Ko te tikanga,
mehemea kei a raatau- mena
kaore a raatau. He panui ki nga
iwi kua tau, kua mohio koe, ki
nga keehi, na. Ko te res ka
taea e au te tino iti, he iti
rawa mo ratou mena kaore e
whakaatu ana i tetahi tohu,
engari ka taea ano te
whakamatautau Kei te
awangawanga ratou ki taua mea
ka hiahia ki te mahi i tera te
rangimarie o te hinengaro.
KAUPAPA: Ka noho tonu ratou ki
te noho-motuhake (KAUPAPA
pmau). KAUPAPA HUI

English: 
isolating for the full 14
days. So that day 12 test is
to give them confidence that,
you know, as they're coming to
tend of their 14 days they
haven't been incubating during
that period of time. >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY). >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: Yes, we do. >>
REPORTER: What's the sort of
compliance with the measure?
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: I had a
feeling someone might ask
that. I get a daily report on.
That I can tell you - many of
them won't have hit the 14
days yet, but we are seeing -
I haven't exactly got a total
number here. So basically what
we do is we go through each of
the locations where the people
were tested. We got - I got a
column for initial testing and
a column for day 12 testing.
The vast majority of people
who are getting the first test
are getting the day 12 test,
where the day 12 has come up.
There's still a few of them
where the day 12 hasn't come
up. >> REPORTER: The
functionality, is that going
to be (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
protocol or (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY)? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I don't have a report
on that yet. That's the next
wave of development. So we
have been - the reporting to

Maori: 
KORE: Mo nga hoaputanga- mo nga
hoaputanga e mohiotia ana, ae
ka noho wehe ratou i nga ra 14.
Na, ko taua ra, ko te
whakamatautau 12, ko te maarama
kia mohio ai koe, e mohio ana ki
te tarai i a ratau 14 ra kaore
ano kia ea i roto i taua waa.
kairipoata: (ka korero tuturu).
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ae, ka mahi tatou.
KAUPAPA: He aha te ahua o te
whakatutukitanga ki te mehua?
TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: I au i te ahua ka
patai tetahi ki tera. Whiwhi
ahau i te ripoata ia ra. Ka
taea e au te korero atu ki a
koe- kaore ano kia whiua te
nuinga o ratau 14 nga ra,
engari kei te kite tatou- Kaore
au i tino tapeke katoa i konei.
Na he aha te mahi taatau ka
haere tatou i roto i ia nga
waahi i whakamatauhia e nga
iwi. I whiwhi tatou- I whiwhi
ahau i te pou mo te
whakamatautau tuatahi me te pou
ra 12 whakamatautau. Ko te
nuinga o te hunga e whiwhi ana
i te tuatahi. Whakamtautau
kei te tiki i te ra ki te
whakamatautau 12, i reira i
puta mai te r He maha tonu
o ratou kaore te ra 12 i tae
ake.
KAUPAPA: Ko te taumahinga, ko
te mea ka haere (KAUPAPA
WHAKAARO) kawa ranei (KOREI
WHAKAARO)? KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Kaore ano au kia
ripoata mo tera. Koinei te

Maori: 
reanga o muri ake o te
whanaketanga. Na reira kua
matou- kua tutuki te tuku
korero ki ahau kua whakaritea
tenei korero hou mo tenei wiki.
Engari e mohio ana ahau kei te
korerorero ratou ki a Apple me.
Google me te titiro ki te ao i
etahi atu whenua kei te mahi ki
te ao me te whakauru i enei-
nga akoranga kei te mahi ratou
mai i tera ki te
whakawhanaketanga taupnga. Na
te whai ake- te whnuitanga,
ki te hiahia koe, mo te
whanaketanga o muri. Kaore ano
ahau kia kite me te hainatanga
atu engari kua korerotia e au e
kore e matara noa atu.
Korerotia nga hoapapa a nga GP
e kii ana kei te piki haere he
raupatu i nga karere mo te
whakamatautau whakamate i te
tuawhenua. Ko nga GP me te
panui kotahi e puta mai ana i
te Manat Hauora me te panui
kotahi mai i te DHO. He GP kei
roto i nga tuawhenua i waho atu
o Akarana e kiia ana
whakamtautau asymptomatic
whakamtautau? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ko taku tohutohu mo
tera ko te whai i te aratohu
mai i te Manat Hauora ehara i
ta ratau PHO. Ko te Manat
Hauora kei te arotake i ta
ratou aratohu i tukuna mai ki
nga mahinga GP, pera me taku i
kii atu ai i mua. Me te

English: 
me has been focused on getting
this latest issue sorted for
this week. But I know that
they are in discussions with
Apple and Google and looking
internationally at what other
countries are doing
internationally and
incorporating those - the
lessons they're getting from
that into that app
development. So the next - the
scope, if you like, for the
next lot of development, I
haven't yet seen and signed
off on but I mentioned that
won't be far away. Report roth
contacts by GPs who say
they're getting confusing
messages about asymptomatic
testing particularly rural GPs
and one message is coming from
the Ministry of Health and one
message from the DHO. Are GPs
in rural areas outside of
Auckland supposed to be
testing asymptomatic testing?
>> MINISTER HIPKINS: My advice
for would be is follow the
guidance from the Ministry of
Health rather than their PHO.
The Ministry of Health do
revise the guidance they send
out to GP practises, as I said
before. And the advice -
again, it's not gob to same
for everyone across the
country. So they'll be getting

Maori: 
tohutohu- ano hoki, ehara i te
mea mo te katoa puta noa i te
whenua. N reira kei te whiwhi
rtou i ng whakawhitinga
tika mai i te Manat o te
Hauora me te mea e akiaki ana
ahau kia whai ratou. TE
WHAKAMAHI: Whakapono i a raatau
Pepa? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Titiro, ki taku
whakaaro ko tetahi o nga wero.
Te punaha hauora i taku kitenga
i nga tau waru tekau ma iwa.
Wiki, he punaha tino pakaruhia
me te nui o te rereke neke
wahi. Te tikanga o te waa i
waenga i te whakawhitiwhiti
korero ka wehe atu i Poneke me
te tiki ki te wahi e tika ana
kia tae atu, ka raru ai. N
reira, ko te Manat Hauora kei
hea koe, e mhio ana koe, me
iwi. Rapua mo te raina o nga
tohutohu mo te hunga me mohio
ranei kaua e whakamatautauria.
KAUPAPA: Kei te kite koe he
pehea te raru o te whakawhiti
korero a ka (E WHAKAARO I TE
WHAKAMAHI). KAUPAPA
HIPKINI: Ka pai taatau ki tera.
KAUPAPA: Kei hea te mekameka
whakahau, ahakoa? Kei konei te
kaupapa here, kei konei te
korero, anei koe teepu ki te
wehe i te wahi i pakaru ai taua
hono? TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: I tenei kaupapa- kei
tenei. Te nuinga o nga keehi, e
mohio ana he nui te- Kaore au e

English: 
direct communications from the
Ministry of Health and that's
what I encourage them to
follow. >> REPORTER: Trust
their PHOs? >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: Look, I think one of
the challenges with the health
system as I discovered in the
last eight and nine weeks,
it's a very devolved system
with a lot of different moving
parts. That means times
between the communication
leaving Wellington and getting
to where it needs to get to,
it can get confused.
Therefore, the Ministry of
Health is where, you know,
people should be looking for
the direct line of advice
about who should or shouldn't
be tested. >> REPORTER: Do you
see how problematic mis
communications are when
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY). >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: We well
canvassed that. >> REPORTER:
Where is the chain of command,
though? The policy is here and
the communication is here,
have you been table to isolate
where that link has broken? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: In this
particular - in this most
recent case, obviously there's
a lot of - I don't think there
was any particular malevolent
intent by anybody or any

Maori: 
whakaaro ki reira. Ko te tino
hiahia a te tangata Tetahi
raru. Ki taku whakaaro i
whakaatu ko te roopu
whakawhitiwhiti korero puta noa.
Me tutuki tonu kia piri ki roto
i te tari me te kawanatanga
katoa roopu.
KAUPAPA: He ahua noa iho ko te
ahua he aha i tino tuutuhia Ko
te korero i tino tawhiti atu i
te mea ... KAUPAPA
HIPKINS: Ki taku whakaaro kua
kiki tonu ake i roto i te haora
24 whakamutunga. TE
KOROHI: He aha- ko wai? Na he
aha te mea i whakaarohia e
ratou kia he rawa atu tera.
KAUPAPA
HIPKINI: Kaore au i whakapau
kaha ki taua waa. Tahi atu kia
pai ai te piri o te punaha kia
kore ai e tika tupu ano. He
maha nga wa e korero ana ahau i
konei, ko nga tangata katoa kei
roto i tenei kaup- kia
arotahi whakamua. Me titiro
ratou ki te waahi kaore e rite
ki tetahi mea ki te whakamahere
me te whakarite kia kati kia
kore ai e tupu ano, engari
kaore au i te aro ki te tohu-
tohu i te maihao ranei te tiro
ki te tarai whakauru. He maha
ake nga patai.
KAUPAPA: Me pehea e piri ai koe
i tetahi punaha me te kore me
pehea te mahi he i te tuatahi?
ROBYN
SHEARER: Kei te arotake te

English: 
particular problem. I think it
showed that the overall
communication chain needed to
be tightened within the
ministry and all the
government group. >> REPORTER:
Just sort of seems that what
was actually communicated was
just so far from what was
actually... >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I think that has been
tightened up in the last 24
hours. >> REPORTER: What - who
was it? And what specifically
were they thinking to get to
that so wrong. >> MINISTER
HIPKINS: I haven't spent a
huge amount of time into that.
Other to make sure that system
gets tightened up so it
doesn't happen again. I said
this many times here,
everybody in this process is -
has to focus forward. They
need to look at where
something is not gone
according to plan and make
sure it's tightened up so it
doesn't happen again, but I'm
not interested in pointing -
pointing the finger or looking
at apportioning blame. Couple
more questions. >> REPORTER:
How do you tighten up a system
without figuring out what
exactly went wrong in the
first place? >> ROBYN SHEARER:
The Ministry of Health are
doing a review of what
occurred and have taken
responsibility for that and

Maori: 
Manatu Hauora i he aha nga mea
i puta, kua riro i a raatau nga
kawenga mo tera. Ka tirohia nga
korero me pehea e pai ake ai
taatau ko tera mahi e mahi ana
i tenei wa.
KAUPAPA: Ka korerohia a motu
ake ma te iwi ra e mohio he i
he? ROBYN
SHEARER: Kaore au e kaha ki te
whakautu i taua patai i tenei
wa. Engari ki taku mahara e pa
ana ki te korero a te Minita-
ki a ia he nekehanga kawa. Na
te whakarite ka whakahua i nga
korero ki runga ki te.
Paetukutuku, i tika to
maaramatanga e nga iwi whanui.
Nga Kaitohu Hauora me te
waahanga pai o te korerorero
mn kei te Manat Tuhinga o
mua.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA WHAKAARO) kia
pehea te roa ka whakaaro koe ka
arotake. ROBYN
SHEARER: Kaore au e pai ki te
whakautu i tenei wa. Engari ko
taku e korero atu ana kei te
mahi tatou whakapai ake
inaianei.
KAUPAPA: (KAUPAPA KAUPAPA)
whakamana kia kaua whakaara ake
ki te iwi whnui? ROBYN
SHEARER: Ki taku whakaaro kei
te koa matou ki te whakapuaki i
te kitenga, engari ki taku
mahara te Minita me te Pirimia.
Kua kapi katoa kei roto i ta
maatau ki te mohio he

English: 
will be looking in detail at
how we can improve that
practice and are working on
that right now. >> REPORTER:
Will it be made public or will
the public know what went
wrong then? >> ROBYN SHEARER:
I can't answer that question
at this point. But I think it
relates to what the Minister
said - it's around a protocol
shift. So ensuring that when
we put in information up on to
the website, we had the right
sign-off by the public health
clinicians and then a good
communication point of if
Ministry of Health and all of
government. >> REPORTER:
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) how long
do you think that review will
take. >> ROBYN SHEARER: I
can't answer that at this
point. But what I would say is
that we're working on improved
protocoling right now. >>
REPORTER: (SPEAKS
INDISTINCTLY) justification
for not raising it to the
public? >> ROBYN SHEARER: I
think we're happy to
communicate the findings, but
I think the minister and the
Prime Minister have already
covered that in that we
understand there was a
communication problem between
what happened at the Ministry

English: 
of Health, what went on to the
website, and the link to all
of government information. >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: Last
question. >> REPORTER: Where
is Dr Ashleigh Bloomfield? >>
MINISTER HIPKINS: He's on
leave today. Thanks very much,
everybody. >> ROBYN SHEARER:
He's very well. Spending time
with his family.
Thank you for using Red Bee
Media's Live Remote
Broadcasting Service.

Maori: 
whakawhitiwhiti korero te raru
i waenga i nga mahi i te Manatu
Hauora, te mea i haere mai ki
te paetukutuku, me te hono ki
nga korero katoa a te
kawanatang TE KAUPAPA
KAUPAPA: Ptai whakamutunga.
KAUPAPA: Kei hea a Dr Ashleigh
Bloomfield? KAUPAPA
HIPKINI: Haere ai ia ki tenei
ra. Nga mihi nui, ki nga
tangata katoa. ROBYN
SHEARER: Kei te pai ia. Te
whakapau w me tna whnau.
Mauruuru koe mo te whakamahi i
te Ratonga Panui Whakawhiti
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