PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FORMER
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER SAYS
THE FORMER CASINO OWNER, I.E.
TRUNK, IS BLUFFING.
WHEN IT COMES TO NORTH KOREA.
JOHN BOLTON CAME TO THE NEWS
THAT KIM JONG-IL MIGHT CONDUCT
A CHRISTMAS SURPRISE MISSILE
LAUNCH BY TELLING XES IN AN
INTERVIEW HE DOESN'T THINK THE
PRESIDENT REALLY MEANS IT WHEN
IT COMES TO STOPPING HIS
NUCLEAR AMBITIONS.
BUT ALSO SAID THE WHITE HOUSE
IS NOT TELLING A TRUTH WHEN IT
CLAIMS ITS PUTTING MAXIMUM
PRESSURE ON THE HERMIT
KINGDOM.
HE ALSO URGED THE
ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE THAN
USUAL STEP OF ADMITTING IT WAS
WRONG.
BOLTON WENT ON TO CLAIM THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE MORE
CONCERNED OVER KIM JONG-IL'S
SHORT-RANGE MISSILE LAUNCHES.
IF HE IS CORRECT, OR SHOULD
THE PRESIDENT IGNORE THIS
FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF.
HERE WITH ME NOW IS FORMER
TRUMP DEPUTY ADVISOR AND
AUTHOR OF FORTHCOMING BOOK
REVOLUTION, TRUMP, WASHING
TEN, AND WE THE PEOPLE.
KATIE GREAT TO SEE YOU.
MICROSOFT.
>> MARY CHRISTMAS, SIMPLETON
RIGHT?
I THINK SPECULATING ON NORTH
KOREA, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MARTHA
NORTH KOREA FOR THE LAST 20
YEARS.
WE'VE USED A COMBINATION OF
STICKS AND TARIFFS, SOMETIMES
MORE STICK SOMETIMES MORE
CARROTS.
AND WHEN I CAME IN WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE REVIEWED
THE NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY
TOWARDS CAREER AND THERE
REALLY WERE NO GOOD OPTIONS
LEFT.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS COME UP
WITH THE PLAN OF COMING UP
WITH ECONOMIC DIPLOMATIC
FINANCIAL POLITICAL MILITARY,
ALTOGETHER AND PUT THEM ON A
DIAL AND SLOWLY TURNED UP THE
DIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THE
MAXIMUM PRESSURE CAMPAIGN HAS
BEEN ALL ABOUT.
WITH THIS CERTAIN EXTENT
BOLTON IS RIGHT HAS NOT BEEN
SUCCESSFUL BUT I WOULD ADD
YET.
AND HERE'S WHY.
BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT NORTH
KOREA CAN DO RIGHT NOW, AND
GET AWAY WITH DOING IS BECAUSE
IT'S UNDERWRITTEN I CHINA AND
BY RUSSIA BETWEEN CHINA AND
RUSSIA PARTICULAR CHINA AND
THEY GET 75% OF THEIR FOOD
THEIR TRANSPORTATION FUEL AND
THEIR FUEL AND ENERGY.
WITHOUT THE NORTH KOREAN,
WITHOUT THAT PIPELINE IF YOU
WILL BEING SHUT DOWN, THE
CHINA GIVES THEM IN RUSSIA
GIVES THEM, IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT FOR OUR SANCTIONS TO
HAVE ANY REAL EFFECT ON NORTH
KOREA.
ONE THING I WOULD SAY GUISES
I'M NEVER SURE WHAT JOHN
BOLTON HAS IN MIND WHEN HE
SAYS THE POLICY TOWARDS IRAN
IS IT WORKING.
OR THE POLICY TOWARDS NORTH
KOREA ISN'T WORKING.
DOES HE REALLY WANT TO GET
INVOLVED IN ANOTHER MILITARY
CONFRONTATION IN THESE PARTS
OF THE WORLD?
I THINK THE GREAT THING THAT
TRUMP IS DONE IS HE'S USED
ECONOMIC WARFARE BECAUSE OUR
ECONOMY IS SO STRONG.
AND HE'S GONE A LOT FURTHER
WITH HIS ECONOMIC PRESSURE AND
ECONOMIC WARFARE THAN ANYBODY
HAS IN THE MIDDLE EAST USING
MILITARY ACTION.
>> YOU KNOW KT I HAVE BEEN
PATIENT ON THIS NEW POLICY
EFFORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION
I THINK A LOT OF THE
PRESIDENT'S ADVISERS AND THE
DEFENDERS IN THE PRESIDENT
HIMSELF ARE CORRECT WHEN THEY
SAY WE'VE TRIED ON A
BIPARTISAN BASIS THROUGH THE
YEARS.
THIS ONE TACT AND IT HASN'T
WORKED.
LET'S TRY SOMETHING TOTALLY
DIFFERENT AND SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME SPACE,
RIGHT IN THAT?
SHOULDN'T THERE BE A.WHERE YOU
HAVE TO ADMIT THAT IT'S
FAILING?
OR THERE BE SOME SORT OF
EVENTS THAT WOULD BE A RED
LIGHT IN YOUR MIND WHERE THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE TO
SAY OKAY WE TRIED, BUT WE HAVE
TO PIVOT AWAY NOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'D
PIVOT AWAY, I WOULD AGREE WHY
NOT SAY THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN
AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE WANTED.
I THINK ONE THING THAT WE
HAVEN'T REALLY EXPLORED, AND I
GIVE TRUMP FULL CREDIT FOR
FIGURING THIS OUT, WE'VE DONE
THE CARROTS WE'VE DONE THE
STICKS.
REDONE THE SANCTIONS WE
DONATED.
WE HAVE NOT DONE IS PLAYED TO
KIM'S EGO.
AND I THINK TRUMP IS FIGURED
OUT THAT WITH KIM, HE DOESN'T
CARE ABOUT HIS PEOPLE, HE
CARES ABOUT HIMSELF.
SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE
PERSONAL WITH HIM.
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE
SOMETHING THAT APPEALS TO HIM
PERSONALLY AND TO HIS EGO.
AND I THINK TRUMP BY HAVING
HIM COME TO THE SUMMIT
MEETINGS, BY MEETING HIM IN
PERSON, AND GIVING HIM A START
AND AMOUNT OF STATURE IS
SOMETHING THAT KIM CRAVES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PULLED
AWAY VERY QUICKLY.
AND THEN HE IS LEFT ALL BY
HIMSELF AND ARE HERMIT
KINGDOM, BACK TO WHERE HE
WAS.
>> RIGHT BACK TO WHERE HE
WAS.
>> RIGHT BACK TO WHERE HE WAS
AND HAS A CASE OF WHAT HE
KNOWS IT COULD BE LIKE.
AND THAT'S WERE TRUNK AND PULL
THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THOSE
NORTH KOREANS.
>> OKAY KT REALLY QUICKLY HEAR
THE RUSSIAN JUST SIDE DID
SANCTIONS AGAINST THE RUSSIAN
GAS PIPE PIPELINE.
THAT WAS NOT GOOD NEWS IN THE
KREMLIN WHAT IS YOUR
REACTION?
>> THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THE
RUSSIANS, WE SANCTION THE
RUCTIONS IT'S BEEN VERY TOUGH
ON THE RUSSIANS.
AND IF THE RUSSIANS HAVE THE
ABILITY TO KEEP WESTERN EUROPE
AND PARTICULARLY GERMANY ON A
LEASH, BECAUSE THEY ARE
CONTROLLING THE ENERGY THAT
RUSSIA EXPORTS AND GERMANY SO
DESPERATELY NEEDS.
IT PUTS THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN
EXPERIMENTS, IF YOU WILL, AND
THE WHOLE NATO ALLIANCE AND A
BIG.
WHY ARE WE PROPPING UP
