.
. >>> FIRST WE GOT NEWS OF A
>>> FIRST WE GOT NEWS OF A MYSTERIOUS BLAST, SOME SORT OF
MYSTERIOUS BLAST, SOME SORT OF AN EXPLOSION A WEEK NAL AGO
AN EXPLOSION A WEEK NAL AGO NAL-AND-A-HALF AGO IN RUSSIA, WE
NAL-AND-A-HALF AGO IN RUSSIA, WE KNOW IT WAS NUCLEAR AND WE KNOW
KNOW IT WAS NUCLEAR AND WE KNOW THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN MARKED
THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN MARKED LOCALLY BY LOCAL AND AT THE
LOCALLY BY LOCAL AND AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, NATIONAL
NATIONAL LEVEL, NATIONAL SECRECY.
SECRECY. THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS NOT
THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING ABOUT WHAT
BEEN FORTHCOMING ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AT THAT MISSILE
EXACTLY HAPPENED AT THAT MISSILE TESTING SITE THAT KILLED, FIRST
TESTING SITE THAT KILLED, FIRST THEY SAID TWO PEOPLE, THEN THEY
THEY SAID TWO PEOPLE, THEN THEY MADE IT SEVEN PEOPLE.
MADE IT SEVEN PEOPLE. OVER THE WEEKEND, NATIONAL
OVER THE WEEKEND, NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT MICHAEL
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT MICHAEL GORDON AT THE "WALL STREET
GORDON AT THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" REPORTED THAT TWO
JOURNAL" REPORTED THAT TWO RUSSIAN MONITORING STAKES THAT
RUSSIAN MONITORING STAKES THAT MEASURE RADIATION, TOOK TWO OF
MEASURE RADIATION, TOOK TWO OF THE STATIONS CLOSEST TO THE
THE STATIONS CLOSEST TO THE BLAST SITE SHUT DOWN
BLAST SITE SHUT DOWN MYSTERIOUSLY 48 HOURS AFTER THAT
MYSTERIOUSLY 48 HOURS AFTER THAT EXPLOSION.
EXPLOSION. THERE IS A MONITORING STATION
THERE IS A MONITORING STATION THAT IS DESIGNED TO DETECT
THAT IS DESIGNED TO DETECT NUCLEAR RADIATION, RADIOACTIVITY
NUCLEAR RADIATION, RADIOACTIVITY IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND FOR SOME
IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND FOR SOME REASON THEY WENT SILENT AT
REASON THEY WENT SILENT AT EXACTLY THE MOMENT YOU MIGHT
EXACTLY THE MOMENT YOU MIGHT WANT TO PING THEM TO FIND OUT IF
WANT TO PING THEM TO FIND OUT IF THEY WERE DETECTING RADIATION IN
THEY WERE DETECTING RADIATION IN THE AIR AFTER THIS NUCLEAR
THE AIR AFTER THIS NUCLEAR ACCIDENT.
ACCIDENT. BECAUSE THE STORY GETS CREEPIER
BECAUSE THE STORY GETS CREEPIER BY THE HOUR.
BY THE HOUR. TODAY MICHAEL GORDON UPDATEED
TODAY MICHAEL GORDON UPDATEED THAT REPORT, BECAUSE IT TURNS
THAT REPORT, BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT, AFTER THOSE INITIAL TWO
OUT, AFTER THOSE INITIAL TWO MONITORING STATIONS NEAREST THE
MONITORING STATIONS NEAREST THE BLAST SITE WENT DARK, A FEW DAYS
BLAST SITE WENT DARK, A FEW DAYS LATER, THREE DAYS LATER, TWO
LATER, THREE DAYS LATER, TWO MORMON TORES WENT SILENT.
MORMON TORES WENT SILENT. THE FIRST PAIR WENT DARK 48
THE FIRST PAIR WENT DARK 48 HOURS AFTER THE EXPLOSION.
HOURS AFTER THE EXPLOSION. THE NEXT PAIR WENT DARK THREE
THE NEXT PAIR WENT DARK THREE DAYS LATER.
DAYS LATER. THAT NEXT PAIR A LITTLE FARTHER
THAT NEXT PAIR A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY THAN THE FIRST TWO THAT
AWAY THAN THE FIRST TWO THAT WENT DARK.
WENT DARK. NOW WHO KNOWS WHY?
NOW WHO KNOWS WHY? MAYBE THEY ARE REALLY HAVING
MAYBE THEY ARE REALLY HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES,
SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WHICH IS WHAT THE RUSSIAN
WHICH IS WHAT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS.
GOVERNMENT SAYS. BASED ON OTHER MONITORS AROUND
BASED ON OTHER MONITORS AROUND THE WORLD, ANALYSTS PROJECT THE
THE WORLD, ANALYSTS PROJECT THE RADIO ACTIVE PLUME FROM THAT
RADIO ACTIVE PLUME FROM THAT EXPLOSION MIGHT HAVE BILLOWED
EXPLOSION MIGHT HAVE BILLOWED OUT LIKE THIS, MOVING WEST AND
OUT LIKE THIS, MOVING WEST AND SOUTH AND EAST DAY-BY-DAY
SOUTH AND EAST DAY-BY-DAY SPRAWLING OUT OF THE RUSSIA
SPRAWLING OUT OF THE RUSSIA ENVIRONMENT.
ENVIRONMENT. AS MICHAEL GORDON REPORTS TODAY,
AS MICHAEL GORDON REPORTS TODAY, IT’S POSSIBLE THAT RUSSIA IS
IT’S POSSIBLE THAT RUSSIA IS TRYING TO MINIMIZE PUBLICITY
TRYING TO MINIMIZE PUBLICITY ABOUT THE PLUME AND THE
ABOUT THE PLUME AND THE RADIOACTIVE ELEMENTS THAT IT
RADIOACTIVE ELEMENTS THAT IT CONTAINS.
CONTAINS. DOES RUSSIA GET TO HIDE HOW MUCH
DOES RUSSIA GET TO HIDE HOW MUCH HAPPENED?
HAPPENED? HOW MUCH DOES THE WORLD GET TO
HOW MUCH DOES THE WORLD GET TO KNOW?
KNOW? WHAT IS IN THAT PLUME?
WHAT IS IN THAT PLUME? BLAKAL JOINS US, THANK YOU FOR
BLAKAL JOINS US, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
YOUR TIME. >> GLAD TO BE HERE.
>> GLAD TO BE HERE. >> LET ME ASK AHMETA QUESTION
>> LET ME ASK AHMETA QUESTION FIRST.
FIRST. I HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS THE
I HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS THE LAST FEW DAYS SINCE WE LEARNED
LAST FEW DAYS SINCE WE LEARNED ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. IT’S BEEN VERY, VERY HARD TO GET
IT’S BEEN VERY, VERY HARD TO GET INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. LET ALONE INFORMATION YOU CAN
LET ALONE INFORMATION YOU CAN CROSS CHECK AND GET DIFFERENT
CROSS CHECK AND GET DIFFERENT SOURCES ON.
SOURCES ON. HAS THIS BEEN DIFFICULT TO GET?
HAS THIS BEEN DIFFICULT TO GET? >> WELL, THE ACTUAL EPISODE IS
>> WELL, THE ACTUAL EPISODE IS STILL OLLIE OF THE A MYSTERY.
STILL OLLIE OF THE A MYSTERY. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THE
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THE SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING TESTED WAS
SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING TESTED WAS A NUCLEAR POWERED CRUISE MISSILE
A NUCLEAR POWERED CRUISE MISSILE AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE.
AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE. BUT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS
BUT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS NOT BEEN TRANSPARENT AND MOST OF
NOT BEEN TRANSPARENT AND MOST OF WHAT’S KNOWN ABOUT THIS IS IN
WHAT’S KNOWN ABOUT THIS IS IN U.S. INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS, SO
U.S. INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS, SO IT HASN’T BEEN EASY TO GET IN
IT HASN’T BEEN EASY TO GET IN ALL OF THIS.
ALL OF THIS. >> IN TERMS OF THESE MONITORING
>> IN TERMS OF THESE MONITORING STATIONS THAT YOU’VE GOT THE
STATIONS THAT YOU’VE GOT THE SCOOP OF, TWO OF THEM WENT DARK
SCOOP OF, TWO OF THEM WENT DARK RIGHT AWAY.
RIGHT AWAY. ANOTHER COUPLE SOON THEREAFTER.
ANOTHER COUPLE SOON THEREAFTER. I WONDER IF THE TYPES OF
I WONDER IF THE TYPES OF MONITORING THAT’S DONE AT THESE
MONITORING THAT’S DONE AT THESE STATIONS, COULD THEY, COULD THAT
STATIONS, COULD THEY, COULD THAT DATA, IF THOSE MONITORING
DATA, IF THOSE MONITORING STATIONS WERE STILL LIVE AND THE
STATIONS WERE STILL LIVE AND THE DATA THEY USUALLY DO, COULD THAT
DATA THEY USUALLY DO, COULD THAT SHED LIGHT ON EXACTLY WHAT IT
SHED LIGHT ON EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS THAT BLUEEW UP AND THE TYPE
WAS THAT BLUEEW UP AND THE TYPE DEVICE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE CAUSED
DEVICE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE CAUSED THIS DISASTER?
THIS DISASTER? >> WELL, THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
>> WELL, THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO THINK SO.
SEEMS TO THINK SO. RACHEL, WHAT THERE ARE, THERE
RACHEL, WHAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MONITORING
ARE HUNDREDS OF MONITORING STATIONS AROUND THE WORLD TO
STATIONS AROUND THE WORLD TO MONITOR A TREATY, A
MONITOR A TREATY, A COMPREHENSIVE NUCLEAR TEST BAN
COMPREHENSIVE NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY NEGOTIATED SIGNED BY A
TREATY NEGOTIATED SIGNED BY A LOT OF COUNTRIES BUT NEVER TAKEN
LOT OF COUNTRIES BUT NEVER TAKEN EFFECT LEGALLY AND MONITORING
EFFECT LEGALLY AND MONITORING STAYINGS EXIST AND A GOOD --
STAYINGS EXIST AND A GOOD -- MONITORING STATIONS EXIST AND A
MONITORING STATIONS EXIST AND A GOOD NUMBER ARE IN RUSSIA.
GOOD NUMBER ARE IN RUSSIA. TWO DAYS AFTER THE ACCIDENT, THE
TWO DAYS AFTER THE ACCIDENT, THE EXPLOSION, THE TWO SITES THAT
EXPLOSION, THE TWO SITES THAT MONITOR RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES IN
MONITOR RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES IN THE AIR THAT WERE THE CLOSEST TO
THE AIR THAT WERE THE CLOSEST TO THE ACCIDENT SITE MYSTERIOUSLY
THE ACCIDENT SITE MYSTERIOUSLY STOPPED REPORTING TO THE
STOPPED REPORTING TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT COLLATES ALL
ORGANIZATION THAT COLLATES ALL THIS DATA, WHICH WAS A VERY
THIS DATA, WHICH WAS A VERY WEIRD COINCIDENCE AND THE
WEIRD COINCIDENCE AND THE RUSSIANS HAVEN’T PROVIDED A GOOD
RUSSIANS HAVEN’T PROVIDED A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR IT AND THEN JUST
EXPLANATION FOR IT AND THEN JUST A COUPLE DAYS LATER, TWO MORE
A COUPLE DAYS LATER, TWO MORE WENT OFFLINE.
WENT OFFLINE. >> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MORE THAN
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MORE THAN FOUR ARE OFFLINE?
FOUR ARE OFFLINE? DO WE UNDERSTAND THE FULL
DO WE UNDERSTAND THE FULL UNIVERSE OF DATA HERE?
UNIVERSE OF DATA HERE? >> WELL, THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT
>> WELL, THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS ITS OWN INTELLIGENCE
HAS ITS OWN INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. BUT THIS DATA IS FED INTO AN
BUT THIS DATA IS FED INTO AN ORGANIZATION WHICH IS SUPPOSED
ORGANIZATION WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO MONITOR AND SUPPORT THIS
TO MONITOR AND SUPPORT THIS NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY AND
NUCLEAR TEST BAN TREATY AND THEY’RE LOCATED IN VIENNA, SO
THEY’RE LOCATED IN VIENNA, SO THOE THEY GET THESE CONTINUOUS
THOE THEY GET THESE CONTINUOUS STREAMS OF INFORMATION AND THEN
STREAMS OF INFORMATION AND THEN OFFICE, POOF, THERE IS AN
OFFICE, POOF, THERE IS AN INCIDENT REPORT, THAT TWO
INCIDENT REPORT, THAT TWO STATIONS ARE OFFLINE AND THEN
STATIONS ARE OFFLINE AND THEN ANOTHER TWO AND I’VE INTERACTED
ANOTHER TWO AND I’VE INTERACTED WITH THE HEAD OF THAT
WITH THE HEAD OF THAT ORGANIZATION AND THEY’VE GOTTEN
ORGANIZATION AND THEY’VE GOTTEN TO THE RUSSIANS FOR AN
TO THE RUSSIANS FOR AN EXPLANATION OBJECT WHAT’S GOING
EXPLANATION OBJECT WHAT’S GOING ON WHEN THESE STATIONS ARE GOING
ON WHEN THESE STATIONS ARE GOING TO COME BACK ONLINE AND THE
TO COME BACK ONLINE AND THE RUSSIANS HAVEN’T PROVIDED ONE.
RUSSIANS HAVEN’T PROVIDED ONE. NOR DID THEY PROVIDE ONE TO THE
NOR DID THEY PROVIDE ONE TO THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" WHEN THEY
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" WHEN THEY ASKED?
ASKED? >> IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
>> IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DATA, IF THESE MONITORING
THIS DATA, IF THESE MONITORING STATIONS DO GO DOWN, I MEAN, WHO
STATIONS DO GO DOWN, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS IF THEY’RE STILL OPERATING
KNOWS IF THEY’RE STILL OPERATING AS NORMAL AND THEY JUST ARE NOT
AS NORMAL AND THEY JUST ARE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO REPORT THEIR
BEING ALLOWED TO REPORT THEIR DATA TO VIENNA, WHO KNOWS IF THE
DATA TO VIENNA, WHO KNOWS IF THE STATIONS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN
STATIONS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN.
SHUT DOWN. IF THE STATIONS HAVE BEEN SHUT
IF THE STATIONS HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF DAYS OR
DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF DAYS OR WEEKEND E
WEEKEND E WEEKS WHEN THEY ARE UP AND
WEEKS WHEN THEY ARE UP AND RUNNING, WILL IT MAKE IT ATQ0V1E
RUNNING, WILL IT MAKE IT ATQ0V1E I’D LOVE TO YOU HAVE BACK AS YOU
