This question comes from 
someone in Saudi Arabia
He says
Under Islam, Jews, Christians and Muslims
lived together and everything was fine
That's a lie
What?
It's a lie
Of course
Why?
I come from a Muslim country
Persia
Yosef
Jerusalem
When the Shah was in power
things were good
before and after the Shah it was hell
When it would snow
in the town I lived in
So if
there was a path
for goats
to pass by
I was expected to step into the snow
until the Muslim passed by
so my body wouldn't touch his body
Really?
Really
How old were you?
8, 10, 12
I would walk once a ...
Was this in the 1940s
More like the 1930s
So he says...
He claims that under Islam
as they tell them
everything was good for the Jews
and under Zionism here
things are bad for the Arabs
So he says that Islam is better than Zionism
No
I don't believe that
The fact that it is not good 
for the Arabs (under Zionism)
is a fact that we conquered part of their lives
and on their land
If...
what I think is
f we return the land (West Bank and Gaza)
- Please move out of the way 
so I see who goes in the store
No problem
If what?
If they leave us
and have to deal on their own
in their lives
You mean in the West Bank
Yes
and in someway, sit together and make peace
If there is no peace, they are over there
and we are over here
What is your background?
Persian and Tunisian
Eti
Holon
In Tunisia
In Tunisia they say that the Jews had it better
under Islam
than Arabs in Israel
Sir
in every country, there are poor....
No, he is saying something else
(in Tunisia) there were poor Jews
and rich Jews
also in Tunisia there were different levels
A person who wants...
My father
worked in construction
from age 30 until 65, 70
and raised 6 children very well
People need to work!
Work
In Tunisia?
Also my mother worked...
Israel
Tunisia or Israel?
Israel
He is asking a different question
According to the stories...
We moved on to a different question
If, according to the stories
in Tunisia
under Islam
was better for the Jews
than the situation for Arabs
under Zionism?
I don't know
Stop moving from question to question
Listen...
No, that is the question
 I will tell you the truth...
I can tell you...
If the situation was good, 
many would have stayed in Muslim countries
Interesting that in most of those countries
only a few or a handfull stayed
and there is a reason
because they couldn't live there anymore
that means that it wasn't good for them
Why are there 2 million Palestinians 
working within Israel?
- They live well
- They lick their fingers...
I am not saying they (Palestinians)
live well or not well
But for sure they live better
than the Jews living in the last period
in Islamic states
That's for sure
In my opinion of course
I am happy
that the Arabs (Israeli Arabs)
that live with us here
live well
They are also human beings
We are all human
we all need to live well
We work with Arabs
We will work with Arabs
They are good people and 
we are good people
Just
there are Arabs that don't want 
Israel to exist
that don't want the Jews
Evem the Muslims that live in Iran
What do they want from us?
They want to annihilate us
What? I don't understand
Why does the entire world
want to annihilate the Jews?
Explain. Give me an answer
I don't want to annihilate any Arabs
It's not...
I think that is what he is asking
He thinks it should be Islam here
and we would live under Islam
I don't want to annihilate any Arab
no Arab nation
They want us to be erased
I don't understand why
and why suddenly are Muslim groups 
like ISIS or others want to control Europe
and make it Islamic?
What is going on?
He is saying....
Who is he? Who is he?
If I understand him, he wants all
this area to be under Islam
Who is he?
The guy who asked the question
Ah, he wants us to be under Islam?
Yes
Under Islam is better for the Jews than under Zionism
Ah, really?
No, that is complete nonsense
Great that he practices his religion
and everyone should be fine in their religion
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No one needs...
Just tell him he is right
We need to go
Rafi
Hadera
Arabs under Islam got along with Jews
1400 years
until today, there are Jews...
Ok, not in Yemen 
in Morocco, Tunisia
and other places
True?
- very few
Ok, but they got along
So do you admit, that Islam is much more
peaceful than Zionism?
Here you are putting me in a niche
that is difficult for me
to speak against my country in public
You understand?
That I will never do
you understand?
I am a Zionist in all ways
a Zionist within my people
so I don't...
His claim...
I won't say things
that will hurt my country
His claim is that under Islam
Jews did much better
then say, Arabs under Zionism
First of all...
Is it true?
- No, not true
First of all this is a fiction
that has been running for many years
It is not true
- It is not true because there were....
You look at the facts and see it is not true
For example, my father (who passed away)
would tell me
that also in Morocco which is considered
super tolerant of its Jewish population
there were riots against Jews
there were riots against the Jews
There was a day a year
I don't know if it was Shia or Sunni
in Morocco I think they are Sunni
But
at least once a year
all the women would hide in the homes
and the men would go out
in front of the houses
stand in a line there
and fight off the Muslims who 
wanted to kill them
so it wasn't exactly a love story
Yes, many got along 
They got along because it was a different time
Also Islam was different
There wasn't this extreme version of Islam
Today things have changed
Today Islam is not just religion
just about religion
It is religion combined with 
very strong nationalism
It is not a simple thing
And there isn't a chance in a billion
that the Muslims want peace
more than we want peace
These are people
thristy for blood
Bad people
that their Torah (Quran)
is a book of blood
We see life as holy
They see death as holy
and I don't even want to get into this
there is nothing to compare
and I don't see why we need to 
compare Sphardic Jews with Muslims
Last week I saw on tv
a Sphardic woman
a young woman
went to meet a
a group of Sphardic (Jewish Israelis)
I guess very idealistic but very naive
They met with the "Joint List:
(Arab political party in Israel)
and she in her naivite said
"they welcomed us so nicely"
Of course they welcomed you nicely
that is their dream
So I don't want to go into that hole
I am Zionist
Israeli
proud of what I am
Do you think the Arabs (Palestinians)
who live under Zionism
those that are citizens of Israel
are in a situation
better or worse 
than the Jews were in Morocco?
Of course their situation is better
Why?
Go look for yourself
By chance I work with them (Arabs)
They are people
they live in a paradise on earth
and I am stating it directly and clearly
I have many many Arab friends
that I have business relationships with
and some are my friends
All you need to do is
drive around their villages
in Wadi Ara
I don't mean their physical situation
or what their homes look like
their apartments
rather
their education system
they have a very high 
percentage of academics
I think it is higher than the Jewish population
They live here at a very high level
So let's say those in the West Bank and Gaza?
Those in the territories live in a terrible way
and I think that
no one can claim that I am a leftist
but the current situation as it is
the status quo
is chaotic
and wrong
every day that passes
that we are stuck in this situation
It is a terrible situation
there needs to be some sort
of political horizon
that there will be some sort
of solution for those people 
and
the hundreds of thousands of young people
who suffer and are frustrated
and we see what happens from that frustration
and I am someone who is very
connected to the right wing
and I say
It is impossible to have the situation as it is
Impossible, period
Impossible
It is a stack
of dynamite
that is at our doorway
that we need in some way
to neutralilze it
even to give some sort of hope
some national hope
Even Ehud Omert who for years
was super super right wing
super right wing
even he understood at some point
also Ariel Sharon
understood you need to give them
some kind of hope
you can't leave it this way
The person asking claims
that under Islam
Muslims, Jews and Christians
lived together in peace
but under Zionism, since 
Israel was created
that things are now worse for Jews and Arabs
Where did he get that idea?
- It is not true
Eran
Jerusalem
That is his viewpoint
No way, it is really wrong
So the question is...
Islam has the law of sayings (of the Prophet) 
Islam has the law of sayings (of the Prophet)
There is no custom of equality
Is this something you know from your family?
I am Ashkenazi so no
In your families that were under Islam
were they equal?
No
What happened?
Yair
Jerusalem
They lived in fear in their villages
Where was this? Libya?
Yes, Libya
They lived in fear
Does your family say they were equal?
They lived in fear, they weren't equal
In Tripoli
the Muslims built them a ghetto in the city
They weren't equal
What are you talking about?
Shimon
Jerusalem
What do you want to say about this?
He claims that under Zionism
Muslims and Christians suffer
He should read some history
before he claims such things
My grandmother came from Yemen
they suffered there
The Muslms would beat them, steal from them
all the time
Muslims would steal their children
My grandmother has a sister that
until today she doesn't know what happened to her
They kidnapped them 
They took her
They don't know where she is
It wasn't a one time thing
It happened a lot
It wasn't...
Let's say that under Islam
we didn't live in peace and brotherhood
He should really read more history
and gain some knowledge
On the other hand
under Zionism
I see here that many Arabs come
here (to shop)
people come to work
Not everything is equal or 100% perfect
but 
here there is democracy and peace
We live together and don't each each other
He should turn on a different channel
other than al Jazeera
There is a different world out there
He says that under Islam
Jews, Christians and Muslims
lived togther in peace
for 1400 years until the state of Israel was created
So do you admit that Islam is more
peaceful
than Zionism?
Daniel
Ramat Gan
I think things are due mainly 
to geo-political context
It is true that there is distinct
official religion for the country
but conflicts are created by
many other things
Economics, identity, history
and to reduce that to
we have this religion and 
they have that religion
is a little...
We can claim that secular Mongolians
were very peaceful
after they had already conquered
the entire world
You understand
It is simply a reductionism
that is incomplete
Ido
Tel Aviv
I think that a nation has
a right to self-definition
Jews wanted to create a country
and history made it into 
a large conflict
Let's say his point
that first, Jews lived in peace under Islam
and that today, Muslims and Christians
don't live in peace with Jews
under Zionism
Is it true or not?
Muslims don't live in peace
with other Muslims today
so it is not as simple as
it is not divided by religion
it is more political
Idan
Tel Aviv
Under Islam, Jews Christians and Muslims
lived in peace 1400 years
until Israel was created
Now do you admit
that under Islam, there was more peace
than under Zionism?
I admit that there is no such thing as Islam
there is no such thing as Zionism
All that exists are human beings
Either you are a good person or a bad person
It doesn't matter what your religion is
or what...
It is all nonsense, there is no such thing
But there is Islam and there is Zionism
They are inventions
Until you understand that these are invented...
But there is also history
These are invented things
Nothing is true. There are only
good and bad people
That's it. We need to let
people live with each other
Under Islam
Muslims, Jews and Christians
lived together in peace
for 1400 years
until Israel was established
Eyal
Jerusalem
Would you admit, that Islam is more
peaceful than Zionism?
Of course not
Why?
You can see it today I think
What is going on today, shows it best
Explain what you mean
All the terrorists, most of the terrorsts
are Muslim
Not Jews
Not even Christians
So I think there is nothing to argue about
you see it (terrorism) daily 
Not just here (in Israel)
where they can claim
that the land is theirs or ours
But look at Europe, 
What is their connection with Europe?
But in any case in Belgium, there were terror attacks
also in France and in Spain
and who is responsible for the attacks?
Muslims, not all Muslilms of course
But Muslims in general are
the terrorists in the 21st century
What about the other idea
that he says under Zionism
there is no peace between Muslims and Jews
Because of Zionism
The problem is Zionism
The problem is Zionism
I don't know what he means by that
We agreed to many compromises
that they (Palestinians) didn't agree to
So I don't see the problem in Zionism
Under Islam, Jews, Muslims and Christian
lived happily in peace
for 1400 years
until Israel was created
Dudu
Jerusalem
So do you admit that under Islam
there is more peace
than under Zionism?
He is saying that Zionism....
I understand the question
The answer is firstly that 1400 years
it wasn't peaceful for Jews under Islam
If you read history you see riots all the time
Riots I mean
because there wasn't an authority
there was no one to stop violence
because they were Muslims
so they could do whatever they wanted
They could kidnap girls
under Islam of course
They kidnapped Jewish girls
and who knows who they gave them to
This is something that in your
family they talk about?
In Yemen it happened
It happened a lot
That's the reason Yemenite Jews came to Israel
That's why they wanted to move
here so much
because they would kidnap their girls
who were 7 or 8 years old
Who is Yemenite?
My mother
7 or 8 years old
They kidnapped them and they stayed there
So it is not really true to say
that under Islam it was
peace and quiet
To tell you that I like being
under the Zionist authority, I don't
because it is not an authority
that defends itself (the government is weak)
What I think
If God didn't help us
we wouldn't be here
Not because of the Muslims, 
Christians or Zionists
That is not the answer to 
why we exist (Israel)
We can't give any of those credit
It is not better here and not better there
Both are shit
There (in the Muslim world) was shit
because there was no protection
the Muslims could do to us
whatever they wanted
Here there is protection some of the times
I don't understand
Who is protecting here?
The Zionists, the police, the law
They protect the extreme leftists
and don't protect the truth
If someone attacks me
in any country in the world
there is no law that stops
me from protecting myself
Only here in Israel there are
laws that prevent me
That I have to tell him first "stop"
Then I can shoot in the air
Then I can shoot him in the leg
and only then can I shoot him
in the stomach
It is the stupidest law I have ever heard of
That is not what happens
It doesn't happen because the terrorst
has already done what he wants
He has already hurt people
Why do you think people are afraid to...
Today, if you hear there is a terror attack
everyone gets on the ground
They don't see what happened
People are afraid to protect themselves
because they are afraid they will go to jail
Can I call that freedom?
No, I don't call that freedom
But what is true is who is protecting us?
Its not Zionist and not Islam
It is only God
