"TODAY" INTERVIEW.
"TODAY" INTERVIEW. IT’S BEEN SEVEN YEARS SINCE
IT’S BEEN SEVEN YEARS SINCE APPLE FOUNDER STEVE JOBS LOST
APPLE FOUNDER STEVE JOBS LOST HIS LIFE TO PANCREATIC CANCER.
HIS LIFE TO PANCREATIC CANCER. HIS LIFE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF
HIS LIFE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF FILMS AND BOOKS.
FILMS AND BOOKS. THE LATEST PERHAPS THE MOST
THE LATEST PERHAPS THE MOST PERSONAL, HIS DAUGHTER LISA
PERSONAL, HIS DAUGHTER LISA JOBS.
JOBS. WE’LL TALK TO HER IN A MOMENT.
WE’LL TALK TO HER IN A MOMENT. BUT FIRST, LISA’S COMPLICATED
BUT FIRST, LISA’S COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FATHER.
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FATHER. >> WE ARE CALLING IT iPHONE.
>> WE ARE CALLING IT iPHONE. >> STEVE JOBS WAS THE MAN WHO
>> STEVE JOBS WAS THE MAN WHO INTRODUCED LIFE CHANGING
INTRODUCED LIFE CHANGING TECHNOLOGY TO THE MASSES.
TECHNOLOGY TO THE MASSES. A TIGHT-LIPPED TECH GENIUS WITH
A TIGHT-LIPPED TECH GENIUS WITH ENDLESS AMBITION.
ENDLESS AMBITION. >> I DON’T HAVE A DAUGHTER NAMED
>> I DON’T HAVE A DAUGHTER NAMED LISA.
LISA. >> THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN THE 2015
>> THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN THE 2015 FILM STEVE JOBS KNOW JOBS
FILM STEVE JOBS KNOW JOBS DAUGHTER, LISA BRENNAN JOBS, AS
DAUGHTER, LISA BRENNAN JOBS, AS A YOUNG GIRL DESPERATE FOR
A YOUNG GIRL DESPERATE FOR VALIDATION FROM A FATHER WHO
VALIDATION FROM A FATHER WHO APPEARED DISMISSIVE.
APPEARED DISMISSIVE. >> YOU KNEW WHAT I WAS GOING
>> YOU KNEW WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH AND YOU DIDN’T DO
THROUGH AND YOU DIDN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
ANYTHING ABOUT IT. >> STEVE JOBS WAS 23 WHEN HE MET
>> STEVE JOBS WAS 23 WHEN HE MET HIS OLDEST DAUGHTER DAYS AFTER
HIS OLDEST DAUGHTER DAYS AFTER SHE WAS BORN TO HIS FORMER
SHE WAS BORN TO HIS FORMER GIRLFRIEND CHRIS ANN BRENNAN.
GIRLFRIEND CHRIS ANN BRENNAN. BRENNAN-JOBS SAID HER FATHER
BRENNAN-JOBS SAID HER FATHER HELP NAME HER BUT FOR YEARS AND
HELP NAME HER BUT FOR YEARS AND DESPITE A DNA TEST PROVING HE
DESPITE A DNA TEST PROVING HE WAS HER DAD, HE DENIED THAT.
WAS HER DAD, HE DENIED THAT. LATER HE REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO
LATER HE REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO CONFIRM THAT AN EARLY VERSION OF
CONFIRM THAT AN EARLY VERSION OF AN APPLE COMPUTER CALLED LISA
AN APPLE COMPUTER CALLED LISA WAS NAMED AFTER HER.
WAS NAMED AFTER HER. >> NOTHING WAS NAMED AFTER
>> NOTHING WAS NAMED AFTER ANYBODY.
ANYBODY. IT’S A COINCIDENCE.
IT’S A COINCIDENCE. >> IN HER NEW MEMOIR "SMALL FRY"
>> IN HER NEW MEMOIR "SMALL FRY" BRENNAN-JOBS SHARES HER
BRENNAN-JOBS SHARES HER PERSPECTIVE TO LIFE WITH A
PERSPECTIVE TO LIFE WITH A FATHER WHO COULD BE CRUEL TO
FATHER WHO COULD BE CRUEL TO MOMENTS OF SHARED JOY ON THE
MOMENTS OF SHARED JOY ON THE PIANO OR ROLLER SKATES.
PIANO OR ROLLER SKATES. SHE DESCRIBES A LARGELY UNSTABLE
SHE DESCRIBES A LARGELY UNSTABLE CHILDHOOD.
CHILDHOOD. AT 14 SHE MOVED IN WITH HER
AT 14 SHE MOVED IN WITH HER FATHER AND GROWING FAMILY,
FATHER AND GROWING FAMILY, THOUGH HE HAD ONE CONDITION.
THOUGH HE HAD ONE CONDITION. SHE COULD NOT SEE HER MOTHER FOR
SHE COULD NOT SEE HER MOTHER FOR SIX MONTHS.
SIX MONTHS. BRENNAN-JOBS DESCRIBED THAT TIME
BRENNAN-JOBS DESCRIBED THAT TIME AS LONELY BUT SPRINKLED WITH
AS LONELY BUT SPRINKLED WITH MOMENTS OF JOY AND BELONGING,
MOMENTS OF JOY AND BELONGING, PAINTING A VERY COMPLICATED
PAINTING A VERY COMPLICATED PICTURE OF HER RELATIONSHIP WITH
PICTURE OF HER RELATIONSHIP WITH A MAN SHE JUST CALLED STEVE.
A MAN SHE JUST CALLED STEVE. LISA BRENNAN-JOBS JOINS US NOW.
LISA BRENNAN-JOBS JOINS US NOW. AGAIN, HER MEMOIR IS CALLED
AGAIN, HER MEMOIR IS CALLED "SMALL FRY."
"SMALL FRY." HI, LISA, GOOD MORNING.
HI, LISA, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> FATHER-DAUGHTER RELATIONSHIPS
>> FATHER-DAUGHTER RELATIONSHIPS WE KNOW ARE VERYCOMPLICATED.
WE KNOW ARE VERYCOMPLICATED. YOURS KIND OF IS NO EXCEPTION.
YOURS KIND OF IS NO EXCEPTION. WHEN I WAS READING THIS BOOK, I
WHEN I WAS READING THIS BOOK, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I FELT YOUR
HAVE TO TELL YOU, I FELT YOUR PAIN AS A LITTLE GIRL.
PAIN AS A LITTLE GIRL. I WAS THINKING IT’S HARD TO READ
I WAS THINKING IT’S HARD TO READ PARTS OF IT.
PARTS OF IT. IT MUST HAVE BEEN SO HARD TO PUT
IT MUST HAVE BEEN SO HARD TO PUT THIS ON PAPER.
THIS ON PAPER. WAS IT?
WAS IT? HOW WAS THAT PART OF IT?
HOW WAS THAT PART OF IT? >> IT TOOK A LONG TIME.
>> IT TOOK A LONG TIME. I THINK IT WAS IN SOME WAYS
I THINK IT WAS IN SOME WAYS CATHARTIC AND JOYFUL TO GO BACK
CATHARTIC AND JOYFUL TO GO BACK AND SPEND TIME WITH MY YOUNG
AND SPEND TIME WITH MY YOUNG PARENTS.
PARENTS. THEY WERE YOUNGER THAN I AM NOW,
THEY WERE YOUNGER THAN I AM NOW, SO IT WAS NICE TO DO THAT.
SO IT WAS NICE TO DO THAT. THERE IS THIS REALLY FAMOUS
THERE IS THIS REALLY FAMOUS PERSON IN THE STORY.
PERSON IN THE STORY. BUT I THINK IN MANY WAYS, THIS
BUT I THINK IN MANY WAYS, THIS COMING OF AGE STORY ABOUT A GIRL
COMING OF AGE STORY ABOUT A GIRL GROWING UP IN CALIFORNIA IN THE
GROWING UP IN CALIFORNIA IN THE ’80s AND ’90s IS ALSO -- IT’S
’80s AND ’90s IS ALSO -- IT’S ALSO A UNIVERSAL STORY.
ALSO A UNIVERSAL STORY. I THINK IT’S EASY TO FORGET,
I THINK IT’S EASY TO FORGET, BECAUSE THERE’S DISTRACTION OF
BECAUSE THERE’S DISTRACTION OF THIS FAMOUS PERSON.
THIS FAMOUS PERSON. BUT WE ALL HAVE COMPLEXITY IN
BUT WE ALL HAVE COMPLEXITY IN OUR LIVES.
OUR LIVES. >> I WAS STRUCK BY SO MUCH OF
>> I WAS STRUCK BY SO MUCH OF IT.
IT. SOME OF IT WAS HARD TO READ.
SOME OF IT WAS HARD TO READ. I FELT THERE WAS EXTREME CRUELTY
I FELT THERE WAS EXTREME CRUELTY IN CERTAIN PARTS OF YOUR LIFE.
IN CERTAIN PARTS OF YOUR LIFE. THERE WAS A SCENE, I’M JUST
THERE WAS A SCENE, I’M JUST THINKING OF A COUPLE OF THINGS,
THINKING OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, WHERE YOUR MOM WAS ON THE PHONE.
WHERE YOUR MOM WAS ON THE PHONE. YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE GIRL.
YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE GIRL. SHE WAS BEGGING YOUR DAD FOR
SHE WAS BEGGING YOUR DAD FOR MONEY, LIKE SOBBING AND BEGGING.
MONEY, LIKE SOBBING AND BEGGING. YOU AS A LITTLE GIRL WALK UP AND
YOU AS A LITTLE GIRL WALK UP AND TAKE THE PHONE FROM HER AND
TAKE THE PHONE FROM HER AND SAID, JUST GIVE HER SOME MONEY,
SAID, JUST GIVE HER SOME MONEY, OKAY, AND HANG UP THE PHONE.
OKAY, AND HANG UP THE PHONE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT
I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT LITTLE GIRL MUST HAVE BEEN
LITTLE GIRL MUST HAVE BEEN FEELING IN THOSE MOMENTS KNOWING
FEELING IN THOSE MOMENTS KNOWING THOSE THINGS.
THOSE THINGS. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING THEN?
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING THEN? WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER?
WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER? >> SO I REMEMBER -- THAT
>> SO I REMEMBER -- THAT ACTUALLY I TALKED WITH MY AUNT,
ACTUALLY I TALKED WITH MY AUNT, AND I ALSO TALKED WITH MY
AND I ALSO TALKED WITH MY MOTHER.
MOTHER. MY AUNT WAS THE ONE THAT
MY AUNT WAS THE ONE THAT WITNESSED THAT SCENE.
WITNESSED THAT SCENE. I DON’T PARTICULARLY REMEMBER
I DON’T PARTICULARLY REMEMBER THAT, AS I TALK ABOUT IN THE
THAT, AS I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK.
BOOK. BUT I WONDER -- BUT MOMENTS LIKE
BUT I WONDER -- BUT MOMENTS LIKE THAT.
THAT. I THINK I WAS KIND OF A TOUGH
I THINK I WAS KIND OF A TOUGH LITTLE SCRAPPY SOUL.
LITTLE SCRAPPY SOUL. I THINK SOMETIMES YOU SAVE
I THINK SOMETIMES YOU SAVE THINGS FROM YOUR PAST THAT YOU
THINGS FROM YOUR PAST THAT YOU DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE BOXES AND
THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE BOXES AND YOU PRESERVE THEM FOR LATER WHEN
YOU PRESERVE THEM FOR LATER WHEN YOU CAN UNWRAP THEM AND TRY TO
YOU CAN UNWRAP THEM AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEANT.
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEANT. I THINK THIS WHOLE BOOK WAS A
I THINK THIS WHOLE BOOK WAS A WAY TO UNDERSTAND.
WAY TO UNDERSTAND. >> DID THE LITTLE GIRL LIKE HER
>> DID THE LITTLE GIRL LIKE HER DAD?
DAD? HATE HER DAD?
HATE HER DAD? THE LITTLE GIRL THAT WE’RE
THE LITTLE GIRL THAT WE’RE DESCRIBING.
DESCRIBING. BECAUSE THERE’S ANOTHER SCENE IN
BECAUSE THERE’S ANOTHER SCENE IN THERE WHERE YOUR MOTHER SAYS TO
THERE WHERE YOUR MOTHER SAYS TO YOUR DAD, HI, WE NEED A HOUSE,
YOUR DAD, HI, WE NEED A HOUSE, COULD YOU GET US A HOUSE.
COULD YOU GET US A HOUSE. HE SAYS, YEAH, I’LL GET A HOUSE
HE SAYS, YEAH, I’LL GET A HOUSE AND HE GETS IT FOR HIMSELF.
AND HE GETS IT FOR HIMSELF. THERE WERE OTHER SCENES WHERE I
THERE WERE OTHER SCENES WHERE I WAS LITERALLY READING IT AND I
WAS LITERALLY READING IT AND I WAS LIKE, OUCH, IF THAT WERE ME,
WAS LIKE, OUCH, IF THAT WERE ME, I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD BE
I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD BE FEELING IN THE MOMENT.
FEELING IN THE MOMENT. >> WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU
>> WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU SAID?
SAID? >> ABOUT THE HOUSE OR DENYING
>> ABOUT THE HOUSE OR DENYING PATERNITY, ANY OF THE SPECIFICS.
PATERNITY, ANY OF THE SPECIFICS. >> I THINK SOME OF THE STORIES
>> I THINK SOME OF THE STORIES WERE REALLY DIFFICULT.
WERE REALLY DIFFICULT. YOU WERE ASKING WHAT THE LITTLE
YOU WERE ASKING WHAT THE LITTLE GIRL FELT ABOUT THIS MAN.
GIRL FELT ABOUT THIS MAN. I IMAGINE -- I REMEMBER FEELING
I IMAGINE -- I REMEMBER FEELING JUST PROFOUND LOVE AND
JUST PROFOUND LOVE AND ADMIRATION, BECAUSE HE DID
ADMIRATION, BECAUSE HE DID HAVE -- WE DID HAVE JOYFUL,
HAVE -- WE DID HAVE JOYFUL, TENDER, DEAR MOMENTS TOGETHER.
TENDER, DEAR MOMENTS TOGETHER. HE MADE THE DECISION TO COME
HE MADE THE DECISION TO COME BACK AND GET TO KNOW ME AFTER HE
BACK AND GET TO KNOW ME AFTER HE HADN’T REALLY BEEN AROUND WHEN I
HADN’T REALLY BEEN AROUND WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
WAS YOUNGER. ALSO I MUST HAVE FELT SO
ALSO I MUST HAVE FELT SO CONFUSED AND ANGRY.
CONFUSED AND ANGRY. I BET IT WAS SOME COMBINATION OF
I BET IT WAS SOME COMBINATION OF THESE THINGS.
THESE THINGS. YEAH.
YEAH. >> TELL ME, WHAT WAS THE MOST
>> TELL ME, WHAT WAS THE MOST LOVING THING YOUR FATHER EVER
LOVING THING YOUR FATHER EVER DID FOR YOU?
DID FOR YOU? >> I THINK THAT -- JOSH, YOU
>> I THINK THAT -- JOSH, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SAY COMING
KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SAY COMING BACK TO GET TO KNOW ME AFTER HE
BACK TO GET TO KNOW ME AFTER HE HADN’T BEEN AROUND WHEN I WAS
HADN’T BEEN AROUND WHEN I WAS LITTLE BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY
LITTLE BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY ONE DAY HE CAME TO A PERFORMANCE
ONE DAY HE CAME TO A PERFORMANCE THAT MY BOYFRIEND WAS IN A PLAY.
THAT MY BOYFRIEND WAS IN A PLAY. IT WAS FREEZING COLD.
IT WAS FREEZING COLD. HE DIDN’T HAVE A SWEATER.
HE DIDN’T HAVE A SWEATER. ONLY HE AND I CAN KNOW HOW COLD
ONLY HE AND I CAN KNOW HOW COLD THAT NIGHT WAS.
THAT NIGHT WAS. HE DIDN’T COMPLAIN.
HE DIDN’T COMPLAIN. HE SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING
HE SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW IMPORTANT IT
BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO ME.
WAS TO ME. >> AT THE END, HE WAS DYING.
>> AT THE END, HE WAS DYING. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> YOU WERE AT HIS BEDSIDE.
>> YOU WERE AT HIS BEDSIDE. A LOT WAS BEING MADE WHEN HE
A LOT WAS BEING MADE WHEN HE SAID SOMETHING TO YOU LIKE, YOU
SAID SOMETHING TO YOU LIKE, YOU SMELL LIKE A TOILET.
SMELL LIKE A TOILET. I READ THAT, AND I SAID, WHAT
I READ THAT, AND I SAID, WHAT COULD THAT HAVE BEEN?
COULD THAT HAVE BEEN? WAS THAT A CRUEL STATEMENT, DO
WAS THAT A CRUEL STATEMENT, DO YOU THINK, OR WAS THAT HIS
YOU THINK, OR WAS THAT HIS PERSONALITY?
PERSONALITY? WHAT WERE YOU DOING THERE?
WHAT WERE YOU DOING THERE? >> I HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR
>> I HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHICH WAS AT THE VERY
QUESTION, WHICH WAS AT THE VERY END, HE WAS SO APOLOGETIC ABOUT
END, HE WAS SO APOLOGETIC ABOUT THE TIMES WE HAD MISSED
THE TIMES WE HAD MISSED TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. HE KEPT ON SAYING -- THE THING
HE KEPT ON SAYING -- THE THING HE KEPT ON SAYING IS, I OWE YOU
HE KEPT ON SAYING IS, I OWE YOU ONE, AND I’M SO SORRY.
ONE, AND I’M SO SORRY. >> DID YOU FORGIVE HIM?
>> DID YOU FORGIVE HIM? >> I THINK NOT AT THE TIME.
>> I THINK NOT AT THE TIME. I FELT A LITTLE BIT PARALYZED.
I FELT A LITTLE BIT PARALYZED. >> DO YOU NOW?
>> DO YOU NOW? DO YOU FORGIVE HIM NOW?
DO YOU FORGIVE HIM NOW? >> IN MANY WAYS, YES.
>> IN MANY WAYS, YES. I UNDERSTAND HIM MORE AND
I UNDERSTAND HIM MORE AND UNDERSTAND MYSELF MORE.
UNDERSTAND MYSELF MORE. BUT THE TOILET -- I HAVE TO BE
BUT THE TOILET -- I HAVE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE TOILET PHRASE.
CLEAR ABOUT THE TOILET PHRASE. I THINK THINGS HAVE BEEN MADE OF
I THINK THINGS HAVE BEEN MADE OF THAT.
THAT. I REALLY DID, I EXPLAINED IN THE
I REALLY DID, I EXPLAINED IN THE BOOK I WAS SPRAYING MYSELF WITH
BOOK I WAS SPRAYING MYSELF WITH NATURAL "ROSEWATER" THAT WAS
NATURAL "ROSEWATER" THAT WAS TURNING OVER AND OVER.
TURNING OVER AND OVER. SO EVEN THOUGH IT WASN’T
SO EVEN THOUGH IT WASN’T PARTICULARLY A NICE PHRASE, IT
PARTICULARLY A NICE PHRASE, IT WAS ACTUALLY TRUE.
WAS ACTUALLY TRUE. IT WAS A TRUE PHRASE.
IT WAS A TRUE PHRASE. >> THE DAY YOUR DAD PASSED, WHAT
>> THE DAY YOUR DAD PASSED, WHAT DID YOU LOSE THAT DAY?
DID YOU LOSE THAT DAY? >> WELL, THAT’S A PERSONAL
>> WELL, THAT’S A PERSONAL THING.
THING. I LOST THE CHANCE TO ADD MORE
I LOST THE CHANCE TO ADD MORE FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM, WHICH IS
FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM, WHICH IS WHAT I TOLD HIM IN THE BOOK IS
WHAT I TOLD HIM IN THE BOOK IS THAT I WISHED THAT WE HAD HAD
THAT I WISHED THAT WE HAD HAD MORE TIME TOGETHER.
MORE TIME TOGETHER. I THINK HE WISHED THAT, TOO.
I THINK HE WISHED THAT, TOO. WE DID LIKE EACH OTHER.
WE DID LIKE EACH OTHER. WHEN WE SPENT TIME TOGETHER AND
WHEN WE SPENT TIME TOGETHER AND WE GOT ALONG, IT WAS KIND OF
WE GOT ALONG, IT WAS KIND OF GREAT.
GREAT. SO I WISH THERE HAD BEEN MORE
SO I WISH THERE HAD BEEN MORE TIME.
TIME. >> IT’S SUCH A COMPLICATED BOOK.
>> IT’S SUCH A COMPLICATED BOOK. I JUST WANT TO READ WHAT SOME
I JUST WANT TO READ WHAT SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY, I GUESS,
MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY, I GUESS, WEREN’T SO FOND OF THE BOOK.
WEREN’T SO FOND OF THE BOOK. THIS WAS WRITTEN, LISA IS PART
THIS WAS WRITTEN, LISA IS PART OF OUR FAMILY.
OF OUR FAMILY. SO IT IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT
SO IT IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT WE READ HER BOOK, WHICH DIFFERS
WE READ HER BOOK, WHICH DIFFERS DRAMATICALLY FROM OUR MEMORIES
DRAMATICALLY FROM OUR MEMORIES OF THOSE TIMES.
OF THOSE TIMES. THE PORTRAYAL OF STEVE IS NOT
THE PORTRAYAL OF STEVE IS NOT THE HUSBAND AND FATHER WE KNOW.
THE HUSBAND AND FATHER WE KNOW. >> SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.
>> SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT. I’VE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT SINCE I
I’VE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT SINCE I WAS 3 YEARS OLD.
WAS 3 YEARS OLD. THERE WAS THE ARTICLE IN "TIME"
THERE WAS THE ARTICLE IN "TIME" MAGAZINE.
MAGAZINE. THERE HAVE BEEN BOOKS AND MOVIES
THERE HAVE BEEN BOOKS AND MOVIES SINCE.
SINCE. SO I KNOW IT CAN BE REALLY
SO I KNOW IT CAN BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO READ ABOUT YOUR OWN
DIFFICULT TO READ ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE AND YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE, A
LIFE AND YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE, A SLICE OF IT, IN SOMEONE ELSE’S
SLICE OF IT, IN SOMEONE ELSE’S WORDS.
WORDS. IT CAN BE HURTFUL.
IT CAN BE HURTFUL. WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT
WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT WRITING THIS BOOK, I REALIZED
WRITING THIS BOOK, I REALIZED THAT I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE THE
THAT I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL THEIR OWN STORY AS
RIGHT TO TELL THEIR OWN STORY AS HONESTLY AND ACCURATELY AS THEY
HONESTLY AND ACCURATELY AS THEY CAN.
CAN. SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THIS
SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THIS BOOK IS -- IT’S ABOUT SO MUCH
BOOK IS -- IT’S ABOUT SO MUCH MORE THAN MY FATHER.
MORE THAN MY FATHER. ALTHOUGH, OF COURSE, IT INVOLVES
ALTHOUGH, OF COURSE, IT INVOLVES MY COMPLICATED FAMILY.
MY COMPLICATED FAMILY. IT’S ALSO A COMING OF AMGGE STOR
IT’S ALSO A COMING OF AMGGE STOR ABOUT ME.
ABOUT ME. IF YOU’RE GOING TO READ THE 400
IF YOU’RE GOING TO READ THE 400 PAGES, HAVE YOU TO YOU CAN ABOUT
PAGES, HAVE YOU TO YOU CAN ABOUT EMUP FOR ALSO WHISPERING IN
EMUP FOR ALSO WHISPERING IN LIBRARIES AND ADOLESCENT ANGST
LIBRARIES AND ADOLESCENT ANGST AND ALL THAT.
AND ALL THAT. >> LISA, I KNOW IT WASN’T EASY
