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>> Martha: THE PENTAGON SAYS
THAT CHINA IS WELL ON ITS WAY TO
BECOMING A "WORLD-CLASS
MILITARY" THAT CAN MATCH OR EVEN
EXCEED THE POWER OF THE
UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
CHINA NOW CONTROLS THE LARGEST
MAY BE IN THE WORLD, ROUGHLY 350
SHIPS AND SUBMARINES COMPARED TO
293 FOR THE UNITED STATES,
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MORE AIRCRAFT
CARRIERS, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT
DETAIL THERE.
IT’S ALSO ATTEMPTING TO DOUBLE
THE SIZE OF ITS NUCLEAR WARHEAD
STOCKPILE.
ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT, OVER
THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
JOINING ME NOW, CHAIRMAN OF THE
INSTITUTE OF WAR AND FOX NEWS
STRATEGIC ANALYST.
GENERAL, GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH
US.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS REPORT?
>> I THINK IT’S LARGELY
ACCURATE.
IF ANYTHING, IT MAY BE A LITTLE
BIT UNDERSTATED.
CHINA CLEARLY IS THE MOST RAPID
GROWING MILITARY IN THE WORLD
TODAY.
THEY EXCEED U.S. CAPABILITY.
YOU MENTIONED NAVY SHIPS BUT
ALSO OFFENSIVE COME ALONG AND
MEDIUM-RANGE MISSILES AND AIR
DEFENSE SYSTEMS.
AND WHERE THEY ARE HEADING,
STRATEGICALLY, ON A LONG-RANGE
MILITARY PATH IS BY 2035 OR 42B
THE SUPER DOMINATING MILITARY
POWER IN THE WORLD, SOMETHING
THE UNITED STATES HAS
HELD SINCE THE COLLAPSE OF THE
SOVIET UNION.
THAT’S THE PATH THEY ARE ON AND
THEY ARE NOT THERE YET BECAUSE
TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DOMINATION,
YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
PROJECT POWER WORLDWIDE AND THAT
MEANS BASES, MARITIME AND AIR
BASES.
IN BEGINNING, AMERICA HAS 80 OF
THOSE AROUND THE WORLD AND THAT
CERTAINLY ENHANCES OUR GLOBAL
MILITARY CAPABILITIES.
A SECOND LANE, AND THIS IS VERY
CONCERNING THEM AT THE PRESENT
TIME THEY HAVE A NEAR-TERM
STRATEGY, MARTHA, AND THAT IS TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE CONTROL OF
TAIWAN MILITARILY AND DENY THE
UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES
ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO STOP THAT
CONTROL AND THAT DEFEAT OF
TAIWAN.
AND MILITARILY, THEY HAVE DONE
VERY WELL WITH THIS IN
PREPARATION FOR IT.
WHEN WE PLAY WAR GAMES AND WE’VE
BEEN PLAYING THEM FOR A NUMBER
OF YEARS NOW AND THEY ARE OUT IN
THE OPEN PRESS, WE ARE
CHALLENGED TO WIN AND MOST TIMES
WE INDEED LOSE IN THAT VERY
CLOSE SANDBOX TO MAINLAND CHINA.
THE SEPARATION BETWEEN TAIWAN
AND MAINLAND CHINA IS LESS THAN
100 MILES AND THAT IS WHERE THAT
FIGHT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
>> Martha: ABSOLUTELY.
IT’S BECAUSE OF THE CHINESE ARE
ABLE TO TAKE OUT ALL OF OUR
BASES AND KEEP OUR NAVY AT BAY
WHERE THEY CAN USE THE MISSILES
AS WELL AS THE AIRCRAFT AGAINST
THE FIGHT TO ASSIST THE
TAIWANESE.
THAT IS THEIR CURRENT STRATEGY
AND IT IS A SOUND ONE.
IT’S WHAT WE REFER TO IN
MILITARY CIRCLES, AN ASYMMETRIC
STRATEGY.
FOCUSED ON A VERY SPECIFIC
THREAT IN A VERY SPECIFIC PLACE.
>> Martha: ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT CAME UP IN THE INTERVIEW
THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR
DID TODAY WITH WOLF BLITZER AT
CNN WAS HE WAS ASKED, WHO
PRESENTS A BIGGER ELECTION
THREAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE
MILITARY ASPECT OF THIS IS JUST
ONE ASPECT.
THEY TRY TO INFILTRATE OUR
ELECTIONS, THEY TRY TO EXPAND
THEIR INFLUENCE ALL THROUGH
AFRICA AND OTHER PLACES AROUND
THE WORLD, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID.
WATCH THIS.
>> RUSSIA, CHINA, IRAN, WHICH IS
THE MOST ASSERTIVE IN THE MOST
AGGRESSIVE?
>> I BELIEVE IT’S CHINA.
>> WHICH ONE?
>> CHINA.
>> CHINA MORE THAN RUSSIA RIGHT
NOW?
SPEAK UP BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE
INTELLIGENCE.
THAT’S WHAT I’VE CONCLUDED.
>> HE’S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT USED TO BE RUSSIA.
THEIR ESPIONAGE PROGRAM IS HARD
TO GET THE YOUR HEAD AROUND THE
SCALE OF IT.
EVERY SINGLE DAY, PENETRATING
THE UNITED STATES, EVERY
CAPABILITY WE HAVE A FUNCTIONING
IN THIS COUNTRY, THE STEEL
INTELLIGENCE, THE STEEL
TECHNOLOGY, THE DIRECTOR OF THE
FBI SAID THE MAJORITY OF HIS
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATIONS, THAT MEANS
AGAINST THE UNITED STATES, THE
MAJORITY IS CHINA.
WE SHOULDN’T BE SURPRISED THAT
CHINA WOULD HAVE THE SAME INTENT
WITH OUR ELECTIONS.
WHICH WAS PRETTY SHOCKING.
HE SAID WE ARE ON OPEN UP A NEW
CASE AGAINST CHINA EVERY TEN
HOURS IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT’S A MASSIVE THREAT BUT IT
DOESN’T MEAN THEY’RE GOING TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
AND I DON’T THINK THEY WILL BE.
THE RUSSIANS TRIED VERY HARD IN
2018 AND THEY DIDN’T SUCCEED IN
THE CHINESE COME IF THEY TRY
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCEED
EITHER BECAUSE WE FIGHT BACK
USING CYBER OFFENSIVE
TECHNOLOGY, WHICH THE PRESIDENT
ADMITTED TO A FEW WEEKS AGO.
>> Martha: HOPEFULLY, AS YOU
SAY, WE GET BETTER AND BETTER AT
THIS ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO
BE ON OUR TOES.
I THINK CHINA IS GOING TO BE
MADEMAJOR ISSUE FOR THIS DEBATE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
CHRIS WALLACE IS GOING TO BE ONE
OF THEM.
I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME SHARP
QUESTIONING ON HOW CHINA WILL BE
HANDLED BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE
THAT NEEDS TO BE FRONT AND
CENTER IN FOREIGN POLICY, AS YOU
