Welcome back everybody I'm Brad I'm
Steve
so since Steve's here we're gonna go
over the Amarillo extract smash beer
this is the brew day if you didn't watch
the tasting of the Amarillo all-grain
one we're gonna start a series we're
gonna make a whole bunch of small batch
beers. We're gonna start with smash so
single malt single hop I'm gonna do Rahr
2-row Steve's going to do Maris Otter will use the same hops but
technically each month let's say we'll
have four beers Steve's gonna do two
with Maris Otter I'm gonna do two with
Rahr 2-row will do one hot two different
hops in each one so I'll have two he'll
have two we'll compare them and then
we'll move on and move up to I guess
whatever kind of beers we want Maris
Otter I think would be more of the
darker beers you know and Rahr 2-row
of the IPAs on that side maybe we
could somehow make a brown with Rahr
2-row and Maris Otter and just see what we
get no I'd be good yeah yeah and I think
the the benefit of doing is - is and
we've wanted to do this for three years
is we're gonna be able to kind of knock
out a couple different things we're
gonna be able to tell hop flavor what do
we like what what don't we like we're
hopefully we can portray that to you as
well right and then we'll really tell
the difference between base malts as
well right because I think after a while
we'll probably switch it out maybe go
like Vienna right and like something
else yeah yeah and and we would think
new people - home brewing this is a good
way to start
yeah well you know you're even if you
make small batches like we are because
that's for what we're doing and
hopefully it continues is for 25 ounce
bottles so that's four beers at 25
ounces that you can make
in if it's an IPA you know two weeks
drink it within three and you could have
another one going and keep making them
so you really don't need five gallons of
beer like with us for me most of the
time if I make five gallons I want to
make it do the review and who wants my
beer because I want I want to go on so
they're not different yeah yeah and
that's and I think at least on my side
of home brewing that's what I want to do
you know for me it's all about time save
got three kids and a dog yappy so so but
this one would be a good one to do fast
yes now I didn't do it fast because I
wanted it closer to the all-grain
version but in the end we will talk
about doing this one fast so this is the
extract amarillo smash beer I used Pilsen
and malt light DME so not light DME but
make sure you get the pills in it's a
lighter lovibond so that way it's
more yellowish sure so for this recipe
two pounds three point two ounces of the
DME then the hops schedule is exactly
the same as the all grain batch 0.39
ounces at 30 minutes .029 at
5 minutes and then .32
ounces at dry hop which is about three
days into fermentation you want that you
want that used to be at high krausen so
it's pushing everything out so when you
add those hops the oxidation doesn't
occur Steve and I were talking about
this before but so I started with two
gallons of water I did weigh it and
Steve I'll give him my calculations for
the water so everything should be about
the same oh so pretty boil on this Beer
Smith wanted 1.042 I hit 1.045 in the ballpark not bad
after is where it gets interesting so I
ended up with a little over one point
two five gallons mm-hmm
I don't think I took a picture of the
all-grain version once it was in the mr.
beer but I did do this extract kit so I
could kind of judge later down the road
so post boil gravity was supposed to be
1061 mine ended up at 1088 how we don't
we're not sure how that happens the only
thing I'd see from your notes and it's
it's that is 1061 at one point three
gallons but you are at one point to five
point zero five gallons shouldn't make
an effort if anything I would yeah one
point three a and I guess that's my only
knock on the mister beer as of right now
because it doesn't have because it's so
small I would expect it why doesn't it
have half gallon one gallon little one
and a half and two we know I know from
looking we're not even half full I'll
put a picture up of the one I posted but
we're not even half full in that thing
yeah so if we are over 1.3 gallons that
should bring the that it should bring it
down because there's more water but I
liquid I wouldn't say you miss one point
three by a lot like what one like you
shouldn't have that high of it yeah this
is ten point three you're not looking at
that right no no okay no I'm looking at
yeah just the one points doing not that
tall 88 yeah like that to me tells me
you're missing a gallon so yeah yeah I
have half a gallon left over so I I want
to do another one um and I I don't buy
DME a lot yeah but my local homebrew
store
has it in three pound packages so what
it was close to what I needed
mm-hmm but I think and we know this but
if you don't know you're saving time
with using DME cuz it's dry malt but for
three pounds
it was $11.50 so for the Rahr 2-row it
was ten dollars for ten pounds then for
the Maris Otter I think it was 15 so
you you can save time but you're gonna
spend more money more money up front so
this is in primaries so that is the brew
day but I think almost like the craft of
brewed the milkshake one that I made I
want to try this with like a 20 minute
boil because it's DME yeah you're ready
to yeah I mean there's no you're not
really sanitizing much it's already yeah
I mean there's not good as long as you
bring it up to a boil I think yeah yeah
so I believe what I did on this one I
did bring it up to the boil I added the
DME I let it boil for an hour the only
thing I don't know because I was trying
to keep it the same is Amarillo was
added at 30 minutes and then added at 5
minutes if you do a 10 minute or 20
minute boil
you'd have to reduce your volume of
water well no our you're not gonna get
the same IV use out of the Hoffs so I
believe you have to use more hops well
if you did a 30 minute boil still yeah
you're right but if you still looked at
your boil schedule of hops and said
alright my my hops of Amarillo or 30
minutes so I'm gonna get my DME I'm
gonna shove it in there at a hundred and
eighty something degrees I'm gonna mix
it up so that when it hits you know the
boil the boil I'm I'm good to go to
start my process and there
so do you think though on something like
this without I guess buying more hops
because my thought is if you do a
20-minute boil and you put hops in at
that point your utilizations not going
to be as much yeah so your IBUs are
gonna be lower so you're gonna have to
throw in more hops but this is
calculated I guess you could say to use
one pack per brew no gotcha okay so I
think if you cut it down you might have
two out of that one pack put more hops
then have less like dry hops but what's
that gonna do to the beer we should go
over ten years trying stuff but yeah I
would say if you wanted to make
something like this and you were starved
for time I can see making this it would
probably take you an hour because I if
you're doing this on inside on your
stovetop it's gonna take a little bit to
get 1 point 3 gallons 1.5 up to a boil
and then again electric yeah yeah so I I
think somewhere probably an hour is what
you would spend yeah and then give
yourself time to clean too yeah so but I
have I'll tell you this stuff is so easy
to clean there's one pot especially when
you do extract one pot one spoon one
siphon and it's all cleaned instead of
an all grain brewed a yep three vessels
oh I know
make sure though that the wife is okay
with like a grain sweet smell because if
you're doesn't any kind of like you know
specialty greens that you have to steep
though yeah you'll smell and it's not a
bad smell it's just well your house is
speaking of that Jessica did not like
when I added the hops no no go in our
house smelt like that for like three
days I'm like yeah it smells good in
here man I need a beer yeah
you're never doing that again like oh
yes I am so yeah that's the brew day
we're not gonna make a lot of extract
beers unless you guys want them because
we are more focused on all grain it's
all it's a brewing the bag anybody can
do it especially if you're making this
small of a batch we got these humongous
nylon bags on Amazon I think it was
seven bucks so I I would think you would
save yourself a lot of money just to buy
that nylon bag and do all grain and
crush him most homebrew stores or most
online places are gonna have the you can
get them crushed so I I think you'll
save a lot of money by going all grain
especially if you're doing these small
batches and like we said in the all
grain small batch Amarillo review you've
got 4 25 ounce beers that are like seven
and a half percent you do that make
another one make another one make
another one and yeah you'll be good to
go well and if you do decide to go the
extract route you know the DME is a
little easier to use than I would say
the liquid no as far as quality I don't
know because I know it's liquid you'll
get they do have like a Maris Otter
liquid right all that but the problem I
have with the liquid is normally
whatever canister comes in whether it's
a can or a gallon half gallon jug you
have to like kind of get some hot water
later to get the rest of it out and
you're not even really sure how much
does I had yeah I have no idea so
there's some pros and cons right and if
we have I guess I would say extra time
we might do like an all grain vers DME
verse a liquid just yeah just to see
then we could almost do what's it taste
you know what the taste difference is
also what is the price difference what's
the time difference yeah because I think
for the all
it was probably two and a half hours
just for one point two five gallon batch
going into the carboy because you still
have to heat that water up let's see and
then you've got an hour mash and then
you've got an hour boil so you have at
least two hours and depending on what
you use to heat that water they could
take 20-30 minutes to get it up there
yeah so yeah that would be my yeah where
you can pay more for extract at a time
yeah a lot more time so hopefully you
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