ARMY, 244 YEARS AND IT'S FLAG
DAY, AND IT IS THE PRESIDENT'S
BIRTHDAY.
>> THE PRESIDENT IS TURNING 73
TODAY AND HE IS JOINING US BY
PHONE RIGHT NOW, GOOD MORNING TO
YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> GOOD MORNING.
AINSLEY: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HOW DO
YOU PLAN TO CELEBRATE?
>> WELL, I THINK I WILL JUST
WORK.
WE HAVE PIECE OF CAKE TONIGHT
BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE ARE DOING
A LOT OF THINGS, GOOD THINGS, A
LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE TURNING
OUT TO BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
I ENJOY DOING THAT MORE.
BRIAN: ON THE NOTE, ESQUIRE
MAGAZINE DID THE STORY, WELL,
THE PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE TRUTH
IS HE LIKES RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT BUT HATES THE JOB.
>> NO, I LOVE THE JOB, THE FAKE
MEDIA, THEY'RE SO FAKE.
YOU DON'T EVEN RESPOND TO THEM.
I LOVE IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
ANYBODY ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH IN
2 YEARS.
I WATCHED NATALIE HARP, YOUNG
BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, MADE MEDICAL
MISTAKE A LONG TIME AGO AND
SHE'S LIVED A LONG TIME.
SHE'S ONE OF THE BEST GUEST
YOU'VE EVER HAD.
RIGHT TO TRY.
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT
FOR 44 YEARS APPROVED AND I GOT
IT DONE WHERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A
REAL PROBLEM, PEOPLE ARE
TERMINALLY-ILL IN MANY CASES,
CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY COULDN'T USE
GREAT MEDICINES, GENIUS THAT WE
HAVE, IN OTHER WAYS TOO.
SHE WAS ONE OF YOUR GREAT
GUESTS.
BRIAN: JUST TO CONFIRM,
MR. PRESIDENT, NATALIE HARP HAS
RARE BONE CANCER AND READY TO
DIE AND GIVE HER OPIOID TO MAKE
PAIN LESS TO.
SHE DIDN'T WANT TO, SHE TRIED
EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS.
SHE HAS A SHOT AT GREAT LIFE.
AINSLEY: SHE SAID SHE'S ALIVE
BECAUSE OF YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> SHE HAS A GREAT SHOT AND MANY
OTHER PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT.
RIGHT TO TRY HAS HELPED THEM.
THEY USED TO GO TO ASIA AND ALL
OVER THE WORLD.
WE HAVE TO WAIT, IT HAS TO BE
APPROVED, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO GIVE IT TO ANYBODY AND NOW WE
ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, IT WAS A
COMPLEX PROCESS, FOR 44 YEARS WE
GOT IT.
SO MANY PEOPLE LIKE NATALIE, BUT
I THOUGHT SHE WAS INCREDIBLE
PERSON.
STEVE: LET'S TALK ABOUT
SOMETHING IN THE NEWS TODAY, WE
SEE IMAGES OF OIL TANKERS ON
FIRE OUT IN THE GULF AND IRAN
SAYS, DON'T BLAME US, WE THINK
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, MIKE POMPEO
HAS BLAMED IRAN, WHAT SORT OF
EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE THAT THEY'VE
DONE IT AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
DO ABOUT IT?
>> IRAN DID DO IT.
YOU SAW THE BOAT, ONE TO HAVE
MINES DIDN'T EXPLODE AND IT HAS
IRAN WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.
SUCCESSFULLY TOOK THE MINE OFF
THE BOAT AND THAT WAS EXPOSED.
THEY DIDN'T WANT THE EVIDENCE
LEFT BEHIND.
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE
THINGS THAT WE CAN DETECT IN THE
DARK THAT WORK VERY WELL.
WE HAVE THAT.
IT WAS THEM THAT DID IT AND,
LOOK, PRESIDENT OBAMA MADE A
DEAL -- PRESIDENT OBAMA MADE A
DEAL THAT WAS AN OUTRAGE, THE
IRAN DEAL, WHICH FRANKLY IN 5 OR
6 YEARS IN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE
NUCLEAR WEAPONS, THEY UNDERSTAND
THEY WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR
WEAPONS, WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS
WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS WHICH IS
ONE OF THE GREAT DIFFICULTIES
FRANKLY IF YOU LOOK FORWARD, UP-
ONE OF THE GREAT DIFFICULTIES OF
THE WORLD.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THEM.
WE ARE BEING VERY TOUGH.
WE ARE BEING VERY TOUGH ON
SANCTIONS.
WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE, THEY
WERE AN ABSOLUTE TERROR.
THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY WERE IN YEMEN, SYRIA.
WE HAVE 14 DIFFERENT SITES OF
CONFLICT, THEY WERE IN CHARGE OF
EVERY SINGLE PLACE AND THEY
REALLY ARE, THEY ARE A NATION OF
TERROR AND THEY'VE CHANGED A LOT
SINCE I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT, I CAN
TELL YOU.
THEY WERE UNSTOPPABLE AND NOW
THEY ARE IN DEEP, DEEP TROUBLE.
YOU CAN'T -- YOU CAN'T --
BRIAN: HOW DO YOU STOP THE
OUTRAGEOUS ACT?
>> WE ARE GOING TO SEE HOW TO
STOP.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE TALKED THE
SAME WAY WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA
SIGNED AGREEMENT, THEY WERE
SAYING DEATH TO AMERICA, THEY
WERE HAVING GOOD TIME AT HIS
EXPENSE AND GIVEN HIM
150 BILLION AND 1.8 BILLION IN
CASH, CASH, NOBODY EVER HEARD OF
A THING LIKE THAT AND ALL OF
THAT MONEY AND SCREAMING DEATH
TO AMERICA, THEY HAVEN'T
SCREAMED DEATH TO AMERICA
LATELY.
WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
AINSLEY: STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS
CRITICAL SHIPPING LANE, IF THEY
TRY TO CLOSE THAT, IS THE UNITED
STATES OBLIGATED TO KEEP IT
OPEN?
>> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CLOSED
FOR LONG AND THEY KNOW IT.
THEY'VE BEEN TOLD IN STRONG
TERMS, WE WANT TO GET THEM BACK
TO THE TABLE IF THEY WANT TO GO
BACK.
I'M READY WHEN THEY ARE.
I'M IN NO RUSH.
BRIAN: THEY SAID, IRAN'S
PRESIDENT, GOOD FRIEND OF YOURS,
JAPAN IS FRIENDS WITH IRAN,
IRANIAN PRESIDENT SAID YOU'RE
NOT WORTHY OF EVEN A RETURN
MESSAGE THAT HE BROUGHT OVER
ABOUT POSSIBLE TALKS, WHAT'S
YOUR REACTION?
>> I'M GLAD HE LIKES ME SO MUCH.
THEY HAD ALL THE MONEY, THEY HAD
EVERYTHING.
THEY WERE DOING JUST
FANTASTICALLY THREATENING
EVERYBODY, BOMBING THE HELL OUT
OF COUNTRIES, THEY WERE KILLING
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE
PULLING BACK, THEY ARE PULLING
BACK OUT OF SYRIA, PULLING BACK
OUT OF YEMEN, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK
AT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING,
I'M NOT LOOKING TO HURT THE
COUNTRY BUT THEY CAN'T HAVE A
NUCLEAR WEAPON.
IF YOU LOOK AT IRAN NUCLEAR
DEAL, WE GAVE THEM ALL THAT
MONEY IN 6 TO 7 YEARS FOR A
NATION IS NO TIME, THAT'S LIKE
ONE SECOND.
IN 6 TO 7 YEARS THEY WOULD
LEGALLY START MAKING NUCLEAR
WEAPONS.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT.
>> YOU GRANTED GEORGE GREAT
ACCESS, ONE OF THE SOUND BITES
THAT THEY RAN THERE'S NOTHING
WRONG IN YOUR ESTIMATION WITH
ACCEPTING DIRT FROM RUSSIA OR
ANY FOREIGN COUNTRY, YOU'VE
TAKEN A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE
DEMOCRATS REGARDING THAT.
>> I THINK IT WAS ACCURATELY
STATED AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF
SUPPORT.
YEAH, I'VE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD
PRESENT ME WITH ANYTHING BECAUSE
THEY KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE THE
COUNTRY.
NOBODY WILL PRESENT ME WITH
ANYTHING.
NUMBER 2, IF I WAS AND, OF
COURSE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT,
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT IT
YOU WON'T KNOW IT'S BAD, BUT, OF
COURSE, YOU GIVE IT TO THE FBI
OR REPORT TO ATTORNEY GENERAL OR
SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
BUT, OF COURSE, YOU DO THAT.
YOU COULDN'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN
WITH OUR COUNTRY, EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THAT AND I THOUGHT
IT WAS MADE CLEAR, I ACTUALLY
SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I THINK I
SAID I'D DO BOTH, BUT HOW -- IF
YOU DON'T HEAR WHAT IT IS, YOU
WON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
HOW CAN YOU REPORT -- NO, HE
WOULD ACCEPT IT.
IF I DON'T LISTEN, YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO KNOW.
IF I THOUGHT ANYBODY WAS
INCORRECT OR BADLY STATED I'D
REPORT IT TO ATTORNEY GENERAL,
THE FBI, I'D REPORT IT TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT ABSOLUTELY.
ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH
THE PRESIDENT IS I HAD DINNER
WITH THE QUEEN, I MET WITH THE
PRIME MINISTER OF THE UK, I WAS
WITH THE HEAD OF FRANCE, I WAS
WITH THE HEAD OF ALL THE NATIONS
AND I CONSTANTLY AM, CONSTANTLY
TALKING TO THEM AND THAT PUTS US
-- WE HAVE MANY CONVERSATIONS
AND I'M JUST THINKING, GEE, WE
DON'T LIKE YOUR OPPONENT, AM I
SUPPOSE TO PUT THE PRESIDENT OF
FRANCE, AM I SUPPOSE TO REPORT
HIM TO THE FBI?
>> WHAT IF A LEADER LEANED OVER
X CANDIDATE THAT YOU'RE RUNNING
AGAINST HE DID DICEY THINGS IN
COUNTRY, I HAVE PROOF OF IT,
WHAT DO YOU DO, I DON'T NEED IT,
SHOW IT ME?
>> THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES NO MATTER WHO IT IS
WHETHER IT'S ME OR ANYBODY ELSE
IS IN A MUCH DIFFERENT POSITION
BECAUSE I HEAR THINGS THAT
FRANKLY, GOOD, BAD OR
INDIFFERENT THAT OTHER PEOPLE
DON'T HEAR, JUST A NORMAL
CONVERSATION.
BUT NOBODY IS GOING TO SAY BAD
THINGS TO ME, THEY KNOW I'M A
STRAIGHT PLAYER, THEY KNOW ONE
THING ABOUT ME I LOVE THE
COUNTRY MORE THAN ANYTHING.
I LOVE THIS COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THIS.
I DO, BY THE WAY, I LOVE DOING
IT, THE REASON I LOVE DOING IT
BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A GREAT
JOB.
YOU LOOK AT CHINA, YOU LOOK AT
THE WAY THAT'S WORKING OUT, YOU
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.
LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE
BORDER OF ME
BORDER OF MÉXICO, LOT OF GOOD
THINGS ARE HAPPENING, THINGS
THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET
APPROVED, BRIAN, FOR 25 YEARS.
I GOT THEM DONE IN ONE DAY, I
PUT THE TARIFFS ON AND WE GOT
THEM APPROVE AND ME
THEM APPROVE AND MÉXICO HAS BEEN
TERRIFIC.
YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY SLOWING
DOWN BUT I WATCHED LINDSEY
GRAHAM AND HE'S RIGHT, WE HAVE
TO GET HELP FROM CONGRESS, THE
DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS.
WE NEED THE HELP FROM CONGRESS.
STEVE: GOING BACK TO THE TOPIC
ABOUT THE DIRT, IF YOU DID CALL
THE FBI WITH DIRT ON A POLITICAL
OPPONENT, THOUGH, MR. PRESIDENT,
WOULDN'T THE DEMOCRATS ACCUSE
YOU OF USING FBI TO INVESTIGATE
POLITICAL OPPONENTS?
>> THEY SPIED IN MY CAMPAIGN AND
THEY GOT CAUGHT, WHETHER IT'S
THE INSURANCE POLICY THAT JUST
IN CASE HILLARY CLINTON, WE HAVE
INSURANCE POLICY ESSENTIALLY
SAYING TO TAKE HIM OUT, THIS IS
PROBABLY THE WORST OR CERTAINLY
ONE OF THE WORST POLITICAL
SCANDALS IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY.
AINSLEY: SUCH A DOUBLE STANDARD
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID IT, IF
YOU TRACE THE DIRTY DOSSIER GOES
BACK TO DNC.
NANCY PELOSI IS SAYING YOU
PARTICIPATED IN CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR, WHAT YOU SAID WAS
CRIMINAL, LISTEN TO THIS.
STEVE: AND ACTION.
AINSLEY: HERE IS NANCY PELOSI.
>> HONORING OATH OF OFFICE TO
PROTECT AND DEFEND THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED
STATES.
YESTERDAY THE PRESIDENT GAVE US
ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT HE DOES
NOT KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG.
IT'S A VERY SAD THING, VERY SAD
THING HE DOESN'T KNOW RIGHT FROM
WRONG.
I BELIEVE HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN
CRIMINAL COVER-UP.
AINSLEY: MR. PRESIDENT, WAS
THERE A CRIMINAL COVER-UP?
>> I WILL GO WITH WHAT MARK
LEVIN SAID, DISGRACEFUL
STATEMENT.
I CALL HER NERVOUS NANCY, SHE'S
A NERVOUS WRECK, FOR HER TO MAKE
A STATEMENT LIKE THAT, IT'S
OUTRAGEOUS.
HER PARTY GOT CAUGHT SPYING, IF
YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED
HILLARY CLINTON WITH THE MONEY
THAT ULTIMATELY WENT TO RUSSIA
FOR FAKE DOSSIER, TOTAL FAKE
PILE OF STUFF THAT MONEY GETS
PAID -- BY THE WAY THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT WAS PAID AND PAID BY
HILLARY CLINTON AND THE DNC AND
WENT TO RUSSIA, THAT'S THE
CRIMINAL, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT
WHAT HAPPENED IN TERMS OF THE
CAMPAIGN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED IN TERMS OF THE SPYING,
SHE NEVER MENTIONED THAT.
ISN'T IT AMAZING THAT CONSTANTLY
EVERY DAY SOMEBODY GETS A
LETTER, COME INTO CONGRESS, COME
INTO CONGRESS, DEATH TO A
THOUSAND WOUNDS AND I WILL TELL
YOU, IT'S SO UNFAIR WHAT THEY
ARE DOING AND I REALLY THINK
PEOPLE ARE WISE TO IT, BUT WHEN
NANCY PELOSI MAKES STATEMENT
LIKE THAT, SHE OUGHT TO BE
ASHAMED OF HERSELF, IT'S A
DISGRACE.
BRIAN: SPENT MOST OF HER TIME
CONDEMNING YOU.
>> THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN,
THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT CRIMINAL
ACTS OF ALL TIME.
BRIAN: ANDY MCCABE WHO WAS ALL
OVER THIS WAS ASKED THE
QUESTION, DIDN'T YOU GET
CHRISTOPHER STEELE TO GET
SOURCES IN RUSSIA TO FIND OUT
INFORMATION ON THAT, THIS IS
WHAT HE SAID IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE TWO EVENTS, LISTEN.
>> THERE'S NO EQUIVALENCE
BETWEEN TWO EXAMPLES TO SAY --
OPENLY INVITE FOREIGN
INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS,
REPRESENTATIVES FROM HOSTILE
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO STEAL
INFORMATION, TO ACQUIRE
OPPOSITION RESEARCH IN ANY WAY
AND ILLEGAL WAY THEY MIGHT DO
THAT AND TO PRESENT IT TO YOU IS
ONE THING, FOR A CAMPAIGN TO
HIRE A LAW FIRM, AMERICAN LAW
FIRM WHO THEN TURNS AROUND AND
TURNS AROUND HIRES RESEARCH
COMPANY WHO CONTRACTS OUT WITH
FOREIGN INDIVIDUAL, THAT IS NOT
ILLEGAL.
>> SOUNDS TERRIBLE, EVEN THE WAY
HE TRIED TO MINIMIZE IT.
WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT MORAL
EQUIVALENCY?
>> BRIAN, ANDY MCCABE IS A
DISASTER, WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND
WHAT HE SAID AND WITH THE LIES
AND THE COVER-UPS AND ALL OF THE
LEAKING AND ALL OF THE THINGS
AND THE STRZOK AND PAGE WHO
REPORT, YOU KNOW, STRZOK AND HIS
LOVER PAGE, FBI PEOPLE THAT
REPORTED TO ANDY MCCABE, BY THE
WAY, ANDY MCCABE REPORTED TO
COMEY, WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE
AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE, OF
COURSE, I CAN'T GO MUCH FURTHER
BECAUSE I GUESS IT'S BEING
LOOKED AT VERY SERIOUSLY, WE
WILL SEE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY
SPIED ON A CAMPAIGN OF ANOTHER
CANDIDATE AND ANOTHER PARTY AND
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS
THINGS IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING LIKE
THIS.
THEY USED THE INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES TO DO IT.
THIS IS BIG STUFF, WHEN NANCY
PELOSI MAKES STATEMENT LIKE
THAT, SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
STEVE: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S WHY
OVER A YEAR AGO YOU TWEETED OUT
THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
HAD WIRE-TAPPED YOU IN TRUMP
TOWER, RIGHT?
>> WELL, NOW IT'S TURNING OUT
THAT THAT'S MINIMUM.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH
PAGE AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE
WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE FISA, WE
HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
THE WHOLE FISA.
I ASSUME THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT,
I HOPE IT'S BEING LOOKED AT, YOU
KNOW, YOU WILL HAVE A VERY
INTERESTING PERIOD OF TIME, BUT
WHY ISN'T CONGRESS, OVERSIGHT,
WHY AREN'T THEY LOOKING AT
EMAILS THAT WERE DELETED FROM
HILLARY CLINTON?
NOBODY CAN UNDERSTAND 33,000
EMAILS REQUEST FROM CONGRESS
AFTER THEY GET THE REQUEST --
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW TO ME THERE'S
BEEN CRIMINALITY IN MY OPINION.
I HAVE TO SAY SUBJECT CHECKING
IT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT -- HERE IS
SOMETHING THAT TO ME IS SO
SIMPLE, CONGRESS REQUEST EMAILS,
SHE DELETES ALL OF THEM,
EVERYTHING DELETED AND THIS IS
AFTER THEY GET THE REQUEST FROM
THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS.
SHE DELETES 33,000.
NOW, THAT'S ONLY 33,000, WHAT
ABOUT THE ONE WITH HER FRIENDS
ALMOST MAYOR OF NEW YORK AND
THANK GOD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
THANK GOD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN,
YOU HAVE ANTHONY WEINER WHO HAS
A LOT OF PROBLEMS BUT THEY USED
HIS LAPTOP AND ALL OF THE
INFORMATION THAT WENT THROUGH
HIS LAPTOP, I MEAN, THEY PUT
PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR DOING ONE
SLIGHTLY LITTLE CONFIDENTIAL
WHICH IS A MUCH LOWER LEVEL OF
CONFIDENTIAL.
SO IT'S -- THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH
CORRUPTION AND NOBODY EVER LOOKS
AT IT.
BRIAN: YOU HAVE A U.S. ATTORNEY.
>> AGAIN, I SAY UNINVOLVED,
SOMEBODY WOULD SAY HE'S
INVOLVED, WE HAVE A GREAT
ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE'S DOING A
GREAT JOB, THEY ARE PUTTING HIM
UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE, THEY
ARE DOING THINGS THAT THEY HAVE
NEVER DONE BEFORE, THEY ARE
PLAYING A VERY ROUGH GAME BUT
THEY NEVER LOOK AT HILLARY
CLINTON'S E-MAIL DELETIONS, IT'S
A REALLY -- IT'S DISGRACEFUL
THING THAT'S GOING ON BUT IN THE
END IT'LL ALL WORK OUT.
I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THIS, IT
MAY BE THE SINGLE BIGGEST
POLITICAL CRIME IN THE HISTORY
OF OUR COUNTRY.
THEY SPIED ON OPPOSING PARTY'S
CAMPAIGN USING THE INTELLIGENCE
APPARATUS OF THE UNITED STATES.
NEVER HAPPENED.
STEVE: MR. PRESIDENT, FOR YOU TO
MAKE THAT STATEMENT IF THAT IS
TRUE, YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT
WOULD BE A BIGGER STORY ON ALL
THE CHANNELS.
>> THE FAKE NEWS DOESN'T WANT
IT.
AT SOME POINT THE FAKE NEWS WILL
BE FORCED TO DO IT.
THINGS HAPPEN THAT ARE, YOU
KNOW, LIKE THE MCCABES OF THE
WORLD, THEY ACT LIKE INNOCENT
PEOPLE, THEY ARE NOT INNOCENT.
BRIAN: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE'S
DOING.
YOU HAD BIG ANNOUNCEMENT
YESTERDAY NOT ONLY WITH THE
SECOND -- WITH THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM, BUT BEFORE THAT
YOU INTRODUCED SARAH SANDERS.
AINSLEY: SARAH SANDERS MADE
ANNOUNCEMENT SHE WOULD BE
STEPPING DOWN AT THE END OF THE
MONTH.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT
PEOPLE, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE SO
MANY THAT MAKES IT MORE
DIFFICULT, BUT WE HAVE SOME
GREAT -- SARAH WAS FANTASTIC AND
SHE IS FANTASTIC AND SHE'S GOING
TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS FUTURE.
SHE'S BEEN WITH ME 3 AND A HALF
YEARS, CLOSE TO 4 YEARS AND SHE
HAS BEEN A WARRIOR IN A SENSE.
NO, THE NEWS HAS BEEN VERY -- I
SAW THAT YOU HAD A GUEST ON
BEFORE WHO TALKED ABOUT
UNFAIRNESS OF THE MEDIA, IF I
WERE A DEMOCRAT LIBERAL, I THINK
GREATEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
JUST ONE OF THOSE WITH ALL THAT
I'VE DONE, LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE
RIGHT TO TRIAL, TAX DEDUCTIONS,
BIGGEST EVER, LIKE REGULATION
REDUCTION, LIKE STRAIGHTENING
OUT THE VA AND GETTING VETERANS
CHOICE, ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU
COULDN'T FIRE ANYBODY IN THE
VETERANS ADMINISTRATION IF THEY
WERE TERRIBLE.
FOR 50 YEARS THEY'VE BEEN TRIED
TO GET IT PASSED.
I GOT IT PASSED.
THE VETERANS DON'T HAVE TO WAIT
IN LINE 6 WEEKS, THEY CAN GET A
PRIVATE DOCTOR.
ALL OF THE THINGS WE GOT DONE.
IF I WERE THE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT,
THEY WOULD SAY I WAS THE
GREATEST EVER.
BRIEN: WHAT ABOUT ANTHONY
SCARAMUCCI, HE WOULDN'T TURN IT
DOWN IF YOU WOULD GIVE HIM A
12TH DAY.
>> I LIKE ANTHONY, I THINK HE
SHOULD STAY WHERE HE IS RIGHT
NOW.
ANTHONY IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND
LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY FOR A
LITTLE WHILE, BUT ANTHONY REALLY
IS A GOOD GUY, STEPHANIE IS
TERRIFIC.
BRIAN: OKAY.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT
PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE TO
CHOOSE FROM.
STEVE: YESTERDAY THE OFFICE OF
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, THIS IS NOT
THE MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL
RECOMMENDED THAT YOU FIRE
KELLYANNE CONWAY BECAUSE SHE'S
REPEATEDLY VIOLATED THE HATCH
ACT WHERE SHE HAS ESSENTIALLY --
THE HATCH ACT, LET ME EXPLAIN,
PROHIBITS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
IN ENGAGING POLITICAL ACTIVITIES
WHILE ON THE JOB, THEY SAY,
SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE SHE
DISPARAGED PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES IN TV AND MEDIA AND
REPEAT OFFENDER AND CALLING ON
YOU TO FIRE HER, WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO DO?
>> LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO
TAKE AWAY HER RIGHT OF FREE
SPEECH.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
THEY ASKED A QUESTION, I THINK
ONE OF THEM WAS INVOLVED WITH
YOUR SHOW.
YOU ASK THEM A QUESTION, YOU ASK
A PERSON A QUESTION AND EVERY
TIME YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY I
CAN'T ANSWER, I CAN'T ANSWER,
SHE HAS TO HAVE THE RIGHT OF
RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS.
IT REALLY SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A
FREE-SPEECH THING.
STEVE: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIRE
HER?
>> NO, I'M NOT GOING TO FIRE
HER, I THINK SHE'S A TREMENDOUS
PERSON, TREMENDOUS SPOKESPERSON,
SHE'S LOYAL, SHE'S A GREAT
PERSON.
BASED ON WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY
HOW COULD YOU DO THAT?
THEY HAVE TRIED TO TAKE AWAY HER
SPEECH AND I THINK YOU'RE
ENTITLED TO FREE SPEECH IN THE
COUNTRY.
BRIAN: IF YOU'RE WORKING FOR THE
WHITE HOUSE YOU SHOULDN'T BE
INVOLVED IN CRITICIZING OTHER
CANDIDATES OR OTHER POLITICIANS
AND SHE HAS, WILL YOU ENCOURAGE
HER NOT TO DO THAT GOING
FORWARD?
>> IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY
BECAUSE LET'S SAY I THINK BIDEN
WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHE
WAS ACCUSED OF CRITICIZING BUT
HE CRITICIZED ME AND WE THEN
CRITICIZED HIM OR SHE CRITICIZED
HIM AND IT'S NOT -- SHE'S MAKING
A POINT.
SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE A POINT AND
HOW COULD YOU DO THIS?
BASICALLY TAKE A PERSON -- A
PERSON WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
EXPRESS THEMSELVES AND I JUST
DON'T SEE IT.
NOW, I'M GOING TO GET A VERY
STRONG BRIEFING ON IT AND I WILL
SEE BUT IT SEEMS TO ME VERY
UNFAIR, IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF
SPEECH.
AINSLEY: LET'S TALK ABOUT
IMMIGRATION, THERE'S A CRISIS
OBVIOUSLY AT THE BORDER, WHAT
DEALS ARE ON THE TABLE, WHAT'S
THE STATUS OF THE WALL?
>> SO THE WALL IS GOING UP, IT'S
GOING UP RAPIDLY.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OVER
400 MILES OF WALL BUILT BY THE
END OF NEXT YEAR, THE WALL IS
VERY IMPORTANT, IT'S HARD TO
BREACH IT, IT'S HIGH, STRONG,
POWERFUL AND GOING UP AT MUCH
LOWER COST THAN THE WALL THAT
WAS PLANNED PRIOR TO ME GETTING
THERE, MUCH BETTER WALL, YOU
HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY BUILD,
IT'S A DISGRACE, WE ARE FIXING
IT AND IN SOME CASES WE HAVE TO
TAKE DOWN FAIRLY NEW WALL
BECAUSE IT WAS SO BAD.
WE WILL HAVE OVER 400 MILES OF
WALL BUILT AND THAT WOULD BE IN
MOST IMPORTANT AREAS AND WE ARE
GOING TO HAVE ALL OF IT BUILT
BEFORE YOU KNOW IT THIS IS
DESPITE TREMENDOUS ON --
OBSTACLES BY THE DEMOCRATS.
WE WON THE LAWSUIT ON THE WALL,
BROUGHT BY NANCY PELOSI, THE
ORDER BROUGHT BY NANCY PELOSI,
AND MAYBE THAT'S CRIMINAL THAT
SHE'S ALLOWING DRUG DEALERS AND
GANG MEMBERS INTO OUR COUNTRY,
MAYBE THAT'S CRIMINAL WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE BORDER IS -- WE
ARE GETTING STRAIGHTENED OUT.
YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO
SOLVE IT IF WE MET 15 MINUTES
WITH DEMOCRATS, YOU CAN SOLVE
THE ASYLUM AND LOOPHOLES.
BRIAN: HE HAD A CONFERENCE
YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW HIS PLAN, YOU SAID THAT
YOU WOULD BACK THE PLAN TO MAKE
CHANGES.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FLORES
AMENDMENT, STOPPING KIDS WITH
MINORS ONLY BEING HELD FOR 20
DAYS, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
TURNS OUT AFTERWARDS DICK DURBIN
SHOWED INDICATIONS THAT SHE
WANTS A DEAL, YOU CAN'T DO IT
WITHOUT DEMOCRATS, IF HE
UNDERSTANDS THAT THE BORDER
PATROL IS DROWNING LIKE THEY ARE
AND NOT EVEN DEBATE FOR CRISIS,
WOULD YOU BRING THEM BACK AND
GET SOMETHING DONE?
>> OF COURSE, I WOULD.
I WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE,
THEY KNOW I WANT TO GET
SOMETHING DONE BUT THEY THINK
IT'S GOOD POLITICS NOT TO DO
ANYTHING AND I THINK IT'S BAD
POLITICS.
I THINK IT'S GOOD POLITICS FROM
OUR SIDE, I THINK BY THEM NOT
DOING IT, IT'S GOOD FOR US, I
DON'T WANT GOOD FOR US, I WANT
GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
BRIAN: RIGHT, WOULD YOU BRING
THEM BACK AND NEGOTIATING --
THAT'S ONE OF YOUR GREAT
STRENGTHS?
>> SURE I WOULD, I WOULD
NEGOTIATE WITH THEM GLADLY.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WE HAVE
ELECTION COMING UP AND THEY
THINK OPEN BORDERS, AND CRIME
AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE GOOD, I
MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, OPEN
BORDERS MEAN CRIME.
JUST MEANS CRIME.
ANYBODY CAN POUR INTO THE
COUNTRY.
NOW I HAVE TO SAY WITH ALL OF
THIS BEING DONE, THE DEAL THAT I
MADE WITH ME
MADE WITH MÉXICO, THEY PUT 6,000
SOLDIERS, PAID FOR BY THEM, THEY
PUT 6,000 SOLDIERS AT THEIR
SOUTHERN BORDER, THE STOPPAGE IS
UNBELIEVABLE AND I GET REPORTS
YESTERDAY, IT'S LIKE DAY AND
NIGHT.
NOW WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID,
WE STILL WANT TO GET, IT'S
REALLY INCREDIBLE WHAT'S
HAPPENED AND ALL BECAUSE OF THE
TARIFFS AND BECAUSE OF
RELATIONSHIPS BUT, AGAIN, FOR 25
YEARS THEY'VE BEEN TRIED TO MAKE
DEAL WITH ME
DEAL WITH MÉXICO.
THEY NEVER BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A
DEAL, I WAS SERIOUS, MAJOR
TARIFFS ON ME
TARIFFS ON MÉXICO FOLLOWING
MONDAY AND WE DID IT ON SUNDAY,
IT WAS FINISHED AND WE HAVE
EVERYTHING.
WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, WE
STILL NEED TO FIX ASYLUM AND WE
HAVE TO FIX THINGS -- I SAID THE
OTHER DAY ME
OTHER DAY MÉXICO IS DOING FOR US
IN THE BORDER THAN THE DEMOCRATS
IN CONGRESS.
STEVE: IT WOULD BE NICE TO
CHANGE THE LAWS TO MAKE JOBS
EASIER FOR MEN AND WOMEN ON THE
SOUTHERN BORDER.
MR. PRESIDENT, ISN'T THE
INCENTIVE FOR ME
INCENTIVE FOR MÉXICO TO
CRACK-DOWN --
>> THEY ARE CRACKING DOWN.
STEVE: PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS
THAT TOOK PLACE AND WERE AGREED
TO A WEEK AGO WERE THAT IF IT
DOESN'T -- IF ME
DOESN'T -- IF MÉXICO CANNOT STOP
THE FLOW OF MIGRANTS TOWARD THE
UNITED STATES, THEN, YOU KNOW,
YOUR PLAN B IS GOING TO KICK IN
AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE A
SAFE-THIRD COUNTRY SITUATION AND
ME
MÉXICO DOESN'T WANT THAT.
SO THEY WILL PULL OUT ALL THE
STOPS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
THAT.
>> IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
AND THEY'VE GOT 45 DAYS, THEY
ARE DOING REALLY WELL, THEY ARE
DOING FRANKLY BETTER THAN
PROJECTED, THEY HAVE 6,000
SOLDIERS, I KNOW THE TIMES WROTE
A PHONEY STORY, YOU LOOK AT NEW
YORK TIMES AND DISGRACE TO THE
NATION.
THE TIMES WROTE PHONEY STORY
THAT I HAD DEAL MADE 2 MONTHS
AGO, THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET A
DEAL.
AINSLEY: MR. PRESIDENT --
>> THEY WOULDN'T DO A DEAL, IT
WAS ONLY RECENTLY THAT I SAID,
LOOK, ON MONDAY WE'VE HAD IT AND
ON MONDAY EITHER WE DO IT OR OUR
COUNTRY IS GOING TO COLLECT
HUNDREDS OF, BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS, ALL OF THE CAR
COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, LONG BEFORE
I GOT HERE WE LOST 32% OF CAR
INDUSTRY, AUTOMOBILE AND
TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY MADE
BY ME
BY MÉXICO AND CARS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE AT THE BORDER.
I SAID, LOOK, WE WILL TAX ALL OF
YOUR PRODUCT COMING INTO THE
UNITED STATES OR YOU'RE GOING TO
HELP US WITH THIS HORRIBLE
SITUATION.
THE REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE
COMING, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE OUR
COUNTRY IS DOING SO WELL, OUR
UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS ARE THE
LOWEST THEY'VE EVER BEEN IN MANY
CATEGORIES, EVER BEEN
HISTORICALLY, IF YOU TAKE THE
WORST NUMBER, THE LOWEST IN 51
YEARS.
SO OUR NUMBERS ARE SO GOOD, OUR
ECONOMY IS SO STRONG AND DOING
SO GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE POURING
UP TO OUR COUNTRY, BUT YOU HAVE
TO COME IN LEGALLY AND YOU HAVE
TO COME IN THROUGH MERIT, THAT'S
THE WAY WE HAVE.
AINSLEY: DEFINITELY BIG ISSUE,
DEBATE STAGE, 2020 DEBATE STAGE
ALL SET, 24 CANDIDATES THAT WANT
YOUR JOB, ONE WILL BE RUNNING
AGAINST YOU, THEY ARE TRYING TO
GET THE NOMINATION.
THERE WERE 20 THAT WERE
SELECTED, THEY WERE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN FIRST DEBATE.
TWO DIFFERENT DEBATES AND
DRAWING NAMES TO SEE WHO HAS
BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
JOE BIDEN WAS OUT AND MENTIONED
YOUR NAME 75 TIMES, IF POLLS ARE
CORRECT AND IF HE'S GOING TO GET
THE NOMINATION.
>> LOOK, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT
JOE BIDEN DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT
TAKES, OKAY, HE DOESN'T HAVE
WHAT IT TAKES, EVERYBODY KNOWS
THAT.
STEVE: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> IT MEANS THAT MENTAL
CAPACITY, IT MEANS A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS.
NEVER DID HAVE WHAT IT TAKES --
HE RAN 2 OR 3 TIMES, I USED TO
CALL HIM 1% JOE BECAUSE HE NEVER
GOT MORE THAN 1%, THEN OBAMA
CAME ALONG AND SURPRISINGLY HE
TOOK HIM OFF AND RAN, BUT
EVERYBODY KNOWS JOE IS --
DOESN'T HAVE IT.
NOW I SEE THAT POCAHONTAS IS
DOING BETTER, I WOULD LOVE TO
RUN AGAINST HER, I SEE THAT
BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT DOING WELL
AT ALL, I WOULD HAVE FRANKLY
WOULD HAVE RUN AGAINST, I DON'T
SEE THE OTHER ONES, THEY TALK
ABOUT KAMALA, I DON'T SEE
KAMALA, I DON'T -- PROBABLY
BETWEEN THE THREE OF THEM.
MAYOR PETE I DON'T SEE AT ALL, I
THINK THAT'S A JOKE.
BRIAN: THEY SAY LIKE RONALD
REAGAN, BUSH 43 AT THIS POINT
YOU'RE TRAILING IN A LOT OF
BATTLEGROUND STATES.
IT WOULDN'T BE UNPRECEDENTED FOR
A SITTING PRESIDENT RUNNING FOR
REELECTION TO BE TRAILING,
HAVING SAID THAT, IF AT THE VERY
LEAST IT'S CLOSE, WHAT'S GOING
TO BE THE DIFFERENCE AS YOU
FORMALLY ANNOUNCE ON THE 20TH?
>> WELL THE POLLS I SEE WE ARE
DOING GREAT IN PENNSYLVANIA,
DOING REALLY GOOD IN NORTH
CAROLINA, FLORIDA I'M WINNING BY
A LOT.
OHIO I'M WINNING BY A LOT.
I JUST LEFT IOWA, WE ARE WINNING
THAT BY A LOT AND EVERY POLL
THAT I SEE AND EVERY POLL THAT
WE HAVE I'M WINNING BY -- WE ARE
DOING WELL.
I THINK WE WILL DO VERY WELL IN
MICHIGAN, TRADITIONALLY IT'S
DEMOCRAT BUT I WON IT LAST TIME
BECAUSE TEN CAR COMPANIES
BUILDING PLANTS IN MICHIGAN AND
BRINGING BACK TO AUTOMOBILE.
I WAS UP IN WISCONSIN, I THINK
WE WILL DO VERY WELL THERE.
I THINK WE WILL DO GREAT.
NOW, LOOK WE WILL HAVE A
COMPETITIVE RACE.
IT'S ALWAYS TOUGHER FOR THE
REPUBLICAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
DON'T KNOW PEOPLE -- PEOPLE
NEVER COVER THIS BUT THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS VERY MUCH
STEERED TO THE DEMOCRATS, BIG
ADVANTAGE FOR DEMOCRATS.
IT'S VERY MUCH HARDER FOR THE
REPUBLICANS TO WIN AND I THINK
WE WILL DO VERY WELL.
I THINK WE WILL HAVE A GREAT
ELECTION BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE
DONE AND WHAT WE HAVE
ACCOMPLISHED.
STEVE: YOU HAVE DETAILED
ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING 32
MINUTES WITH YOU.
MR. PRESIDENT, BARACK OBAMA SAID
HE WILL NOT ENDORSE JOE BIDEN AT
THIS POINT, IF MIKE PENCE RUNS
FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024, DOES HE
HAVE YOUR AUTOMATIC ENDORSEMENT?
>> WELL, IT'S -- I LOVE MIKE, WE
ARE RUNNING AGAIN, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT A LONG TIME, SO
YOU CAN'T PUT ME IN THAT
POSITION, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD
GIVE IT VERY STRONG
CONSIDERATION, HE'S A VERY, VERY
OUTSTANDING PERSON.
WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING ON
TUESDAY, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS --
WE ARE ANNOUNCING IN ORLANDO ON
TUESDAY AND WE HAVE OVER 100,000
PEOPLE TRYING TO GET SEATS.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT BIDEN
HAS HE CAN'T GET CROWDS, NOBODY
GOES, HE CAN'T GET 100 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE 106,000 PEOPLE APPLYING
FOR 22,000 SEATS IN ORLANDO,
FLORIDA, I DON'T KNOW.
AINSLEY: WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF
HIM FLIP-FLOPPING?
YOU HEARD WHAT HE SAID ABOUT
AMAZON.
>> HE FLIP-FLOPPED, NO QUESTION
ABOUT THAT.
HE'S GOT WHETHER IT'S THE HEIGHT
AMENDMENT, SO MANY THINGS HE'S
FLIP-FLOPPING, I'M NOT SURE IT'S
A GOOD THING FOR HIM TO BE
DOING.
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BECOME A
RADICAL LEFT PARTY AND HE
PROBABLY FIGURES HE CAN'T WIN
BUT I'M NOT SURE HE'S EVEN
THINKING ABOUT IT.
I THINK HE HAS OTHER PEOPLE
DOING HIS THINKING BECAUSE HE'S
HAVING A HARD TIME THINKING
LATELY.
BRIAN: MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE
SO MANY OPEN POSITIONS, AND
WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION, YOU
HAVE 131 POSITIONS WITH NO
NOMINEE AT ALL, SO THAT'S ON YOU
GUYS TO PUT SOMEBODY FORWARD AND
OVERALL WE ARE STILL WONDERING
ABOUT THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF
SECRETARY, THE ACTING SECRETARY
OF SHANIHAN, DO YOU LIKE THOSE
TWO AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER
POSITIONS?
>> LET ME SAY ABOUT THE
POSITIONS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU
DON'T NEED ALL OF THE POSITIONS,
IT'S GOVERNMENT, MANY YOU DON'T
NEED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
SCHUMER AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE
HOLDING PEOPLE UP FOR A YEAR AND
A HALF AND 2 YEARS, WE HAVE
AMBASSADORS THAT ARE PHENOMENAL
PEOPLE AND YOU CAN'T GET THEM
THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM,
BECAUSE SCHUMER WON'T APPROVE
PEOPLE, SO IT'S TAKING US -- WE
HAVE 200 PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE
TO BE APPROVED AND YOU CAN'T GET
THEM AND WE HAVE FOCUSED, MITCH
MCCONNELL, MYSELF AND THE
REPUBLICANS HAVE FOCUSED ON
JUDGES BECAUSE JUDGES ARE A
PRIMARY FOCUS, WE ARE RUNNING
GOVERNMENT GREAT.
WE DON'T NEED ALL THE PEOPLE
THEY WANT TO GIVE US.
DON'T EVEN PUT THEM IN, YOU
DON'T NEED THEM.
SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYER
BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
BEEN WAITING FOR AMBASSADORS IN
PARTICULAR WAITING FOR PERIOD OF
OVER 2 YEARS BECAUSE SCHUMER --
WHAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON FRANKLY
IS JUDGES.
WE HAVE THE 107TH FEDERAL JUDGE,
TWO SUPREME COURT JUDGES AND I'M
GOING TO HAVE 145 FEDERAL
JUDGES, IT'S GOING TO BE SOON BE
SETTING RECORDS BECAUSE WHEN I
TOOK OVER FOR SOME REASON AND
HASN'T BEEN COVERED BUT
PRESIDENT OBAMA, I DON'T KNOW
WHY, BUT HE GAVE ME 138 JUDGES
EMPTY WHEN I TOOK OVER, IT'S
NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, NO
PRESIDENT HAS EVER TAKEN OVER,
OBAMA DIDN'T GET THE JOB DONE.
BRIAN: IS HE GOING TO GET THE
NOMINATION --
>> NO, NO, HE'S BEEN
RECOMMENDED, NOW HE HAS TO BE
APPROVED BY CONGRESS.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE, PAT
SHANIHAN HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED
FOR THE JOB, MCALEENAN IS DOING
A VERY NICE JOB, I HAVE TO GET
USED TO ME BECAUSE IT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT THING TO ME AT THE
BORDER, WE NEED STRONG PEOPLE AT
THE BORDER AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T
STRONG --
BRIAN: NOT YET ON MCALEENAN,
HE'S ACTING, I PUT HIM AS ACTING
AND HE'S WORKING VERY HARD AND
WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE AS YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE FANTASTIC PEOPLE
THAT WENT IN, MARK MORGAN, TOM
HOMAN, HE'S BEEN ON YOUR SHOW
MANY TIMES.
BRIAN: WHAT IS HE DOING?
>> HE'S FANTASTIC, TOUGH AS YOU
GET AND SMART AND HE'S DOING
MUCH OF THE LEGAL WORK AND WE
ARE PUTTING IN SOME GREAT,
STRONG BUT FAIR AND GOOD PEOPLE.
STEVE: YOU'RE BRINGING TOM HOMAN
BACK?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE
ANNOUNCED NEXT WEEK BUT EXCEPT I
WOULD RATHER ANNOUNCE IT NOW.
HE'S GOING TO BE VERY MUCH
INVOLVED IN THE BORDER, THAT'S
WHAT HE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED
WITH, AGAIN, BIG DIFFERENCE IN
THE BORDER BETWEEN NOW AND THIS
TIME LAST WEEK.
ME
MÉXICO HAS BEEN DOING A TERRIFIC
JOB.
HEY, 6,000 SOLDIERS, AND IF IT
DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE GO
BACK TO VERY STRONG MEASURES.
STEVE: YOU GO TO PLAN B, WE HAVE
TO GO TO PLAN B BECAUSE TOM HO
HOMAN IS FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
BRIAN: WHAT'S THE JOB GOING TO
BE?
>> VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THE
BORDER AND DIRECTLY REPORT TO GO
ME, HE WOULD BE PROBABLY WORKING
OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE BUT
SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AT THE
BORDER AND HE'S A GOOD MAN, HE'S
A GOOD MAN, GOOD JOB.
STEVE LEAVE SOMEBODY WHO DID A
GOOD JOB FOR YOU FOR A PERIOD OF
TIME WAS ADMIRAL JOHNSON --
JACKSON, RATHER, FORMER DOCTOR.
YOU NOMINATED HIM FOR PROMOTION
TO ADMIRAL IN JANUARY BECAUSE
LAST CONGRESS DID NOT ACT AND
LOOKS LIKE HE'S BEING HELD UP IN
CONGRESS AS WELL, WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN TO HIM?
>> I NOMINATED HIM FOR VA AND IT
WAS VERY SAD ACTUALLY, GREAT
REPUTATION, HE WAS PRESIDENT
OBAMA AND PRESIDENT BUSH'S
DOCTOR, HE WAS MY DOCTOR, AN
EXCELLENT GUY, ADMIRAL AND A
DOCTOR AND I SAID TO HIM, HOW
WOULD YOU LIKE TO RUN THE VA AND
HE SAID, SIR, HE DIDN'T WANT TO
JOB, SIR, I WILL DO WHATEVER YOU
LIKE ME TO DO, I THREW HIS NAME
OUT AND DEMOCRATS ABSOLUTELY
WENT AFTER HIM AND WERE SO
UNFAIR WHAT THEY DID TO HIM, I
SAID WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF
POLITICS, WELCOME TO THE WORLD
OF LIVING IN WASHINGTON AND THEY
WENT AFTER HIM SO VICIOUSLY,
NOW, ULTIMATELY WE PUT A MAN
THERE WHO HAS DONE A FANTASTIC
JOB, BEEN APPROVED, HE'S BEEN
GREAT, WE HAVE VA CHOICE, WE
HAVE VA ACCOUNTABILITY APPROVED.
IT WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO WITH
RONNIE, RONNIE IS DOING VERY
WELL RIGHT NOW, RONNIE JACKSON
IS DOING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW BUT
HE'S NOT GOING TO VA.
STEVE: YOU RENOMINATED HIM TO
BECOME A TWO-STAR ADMIRAL IN
JANUARY AND CONGRESS HAS NOT
PICKED THAT UP, WE WILL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
>> WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK,
IT WAS VERY SAD, HIS SON JUST
GRADUATED VERY HIGH IN HIS
CLASS, OUTSTANDING PERSON, I
FEEL VERY GUILTY HAVING THROWN
HIS NAME INTO A RING, IF I THREW
YOU GUYS -- IF I ASKED ONE OF
YOU -- MAYBE AINSLEY WOULD DO
IT.
AINSLEY, SHE WOULD GO BY
SWIMMINGLY, OKAY, I THINK WE
WILL TAKE AINSLEY.
LET'S TAKE BRIAN AND ASK TO
SERVE IN ANY CAPACITY, BRIAN,
YOU WOULDN'T BE HAPPY FOR A
LITTLE WHILE.
BRIAN: I DON'T LIKE GOOGLING MY
NAME NOW.
AINSLEY: MR. PRESIDENT, WE GOT A
CHANCE TO SIT WITH ALEX JOHNSON
WHEN YOU RELEASED HER FROM
PRISON, NONVIOLENT CRIME, KIM
KARDASHIAN WAS INVOLVED WITH
THAT, I KNOW IVANKA IS INVOLVED
IN PRISON REFORM.
IT'S A BIPARTISAN ISSUE,
SOMETHING THAT DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS ARE PRAISING YOU
FOR, YESTERDAY KIM KARDASHIAN
WAS BACK AT THE WHITE HOUSE,
WHAT WERE THE TALKS WITH HER AND
WHAT DOES CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD?
>> THE WHOLE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM HAS BEEN AMAZING BECAUSE
IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY
CONSERVATIVE AND VERY, VERY
LIBERAL, EVERYBODY GOT TOGETHER.
IT WAS UNBELIEVABLY BIPARTISAN,
NOBODY COULD GET IT DONE AND
THEY ALL SAID IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR GRASSLEY AND
MIKE LEE, VERY CONSERVATIVE
PEOPLE, VERY LIBERAL PEOPLE,
EVERYBODY WANTED TO SEE IF THEY
COULD GET SOMETHING DONE AND
NOBODY GOT IT DONE FOR MANY,
MANY YEARS THEY DIDN'T GET IT
DONE.
THEY HAD A CRIME PILL PUT IN BY
PRESIDENT CLINTON WHICH TURNED
OUT TO BE A DISASTER ESPECIALLY
FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND THEY
WERE VERY ANGRY ABOUT IT, VERY,
VERY ANGRY.
SHE HAD PROBLEMS LAST TIME WITH
IT WHEN SHE RAN FRANKLY.
IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLE WHAT WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO DO AND YOU'RE
RIGHT, KIM HAS BEEN WONDERFUL
AND ALICE JOHNSON, SHE WAS IN
FOR 22 YEARS, A LOVELY WOMAN,
SPENT 22 YEARS IN JAIL AND HAD
ANOTHER 20 YEARS LEFT AND
NOTHING IS MINOR AND THERE'S
NOBODY TOUGHER THAN ME.
I WANT STRONG SENTENCES
ESPECIALLY FOR DRUG DEALERS AND
ALL OF THIS BUT SHE WAS CAUGHT
UP IN SOMETHING THAT WAS TODAY,
IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATELY IT
WOULD BE A SLAP IN THE WRIST.
SHE KNOW SHE DID WRONG, SHE WAS
IN THERE FOR 22 YEARS AND HAD
ANOTHER 20 TO SERVE AND SO
UNFAIR.
WE LET HER OUT AND A REALLY
BEAUTIFUL SCENE.
I SAW YOU COVER, AINSLEY, IT WAS
SO BEAUTIFUL.
AINSLEY: WONDERFUL PERSON.
YOU KNOW WHAT SHE TOLD ME,
MR. PRESIDENT, ABOUT ONE-THIRD
OF PEOPLE SHE KNEW IN PRISON
WERE IN THERE FOR LONG SENTENCES
AND SHE SHOULDN'T BE, SHE
LEARNED THEIR CHARACTER AND WHO
THEY WERE.
>> I KNOW MANY ALICE JOHNSONS IN
PRISON AND WE ARE SEEKING THEM
OUT.
HER FAMILY GRABBED HER, HER
FAMILY STARTED GRABBING KISSING
AND CRYING, THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL
MOMENT.
THAT WAS REALLY AN UNFAIR
SITUATION, SO CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
GOT APPROVED, IT'S LIKE RIGHT TO
TRY, THE VA CHOICE, ALL THE
THINGS WE ARE GETTING APPROVED.
NOBODY WRITES ABOUT THEM BECAUSE
THEY DON'T WANT TO WRITE ABOUT
THEM.
SOMEBODY SAID THIS IS GOING TO
BE GREAT, THE TIMES HAS BARELY
COVERED IT AND YET IF I WERE A
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT AND I DID
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IT WOULD
BE THE BIGGEST STORY IN THE
HISTORY OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES".
BRIAN: YOU MADE IMPACT AND MADE
A DIFFERENCE AND LASTLY YOUR
NEXT BIG HURDLE G20, THE WORLD
WILL BE WATCHING, PRESIDENT XI
WHO HAD PULLED VLADIMIR PUTIN
HIS BEST FRIEND AS THEY FORM
THIS NEW ALLIANCE.
YOU SAY YOU GET ALONG WITH HIM,
HE HAS NOT COMMIT TODAY SHOW UP
YET, WHERE DOES THAT STAND, WHAT
IF HE DOESN'T?
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE SHOWS
UP GOOD, WE ARE TAKING BILLIONS
A DOLLARS FROM CHINA.
OUR PEOPLE ARE NOT -- BIG THING
ABOUT TARIFFS, OUR PEOPLE PAY, A
LOT OF NONSENSE, YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS, REALLY, COMPANIES -- IF
I PUT TARIFFS ON ME
I PUT TARIFFS ON MÉXICO, 20,
25%, STARTED WITH 5, WE NEVER
EVEN GOT THERE BECAUSE WE MADE A
DEAL BUT IF I PUT TARIFFS AS AN
EXAMPLE ME
EXAMPLE MÉXICO, YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED, 25%, ALL THE CAR
COMPANIES WOULD MOVE TO THE
UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY DON'T
WANT TO PAY 25%, OKAY, OUR
PEOPLE WON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING
BECAUSE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME, WE LOST 32% OF CAR
INDUSTRY, STUPIDLY OVER THE LAST
20 YEARS BECAUSE OF NAFTA WHICH
IS A TERRIBLE DEAL, WHICH BY THE
WAY USMCA WITH ME
WAY USMCA WITH MÉXICO AND
CANADA, I HOPE THAT NANCY PELOSI
APPROVES IT BECAUSE IT'S A
PHENOMENAL DEAL FOR OUR COUNTRY,
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
AND JOBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I HOPE THEY GET IT APPROVED.
I HOPE THAT DOESN'T GET CAUGHT
UP IN POLITICS.
EVERYBODY WANTS IT.
BRIAN: HUH WOULD THERE BE
ANOTHER ROUND OF TALKS, THE
WORLD WAITS TO SEE IF YOU'RE
GOING TO BREAK UP OR DO A DEAL
>> THEY ARE PAYING HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I HAVE 25%
ON $250 BILLION AND THEY
SUBSIDIZE IT, BRIAN.
MANIPULATING THEIR CURRENCY IN
ORDER TO PAY FOR IT, THEY ARE
MANIPULATING CURRENCY LOWER,
EVENTUALLY THAT WILL HURT THEM
VERY BADLY AND THEY ARE ALSO
GIVING MONEY TO THESE COMPANIES,
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS HUNDREDS
AND EVEN THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES
ARE NOW MOVING OUT OF CHINA SO
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE
TARIFFS.
EVENTUALLY -- WE HAD A DEAL WITH
CHINA AND TRIED TO RENEGOTIATE A
DEAL AT THE END, I SAID, SORRY,
WE WILL PUT TARIFFS ON YOU, WE
ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
WE HAD A GREAT DEAL WITH CHINA
AND AT THE END THEY SAID WE WILL
TAKE OFF 3 POINTS.
THEY WERE BIG POINTS, WE WILL
NOT TAKE OFF ANYTHING.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE
DEAL BUT WE ARE GOING TO SEE.
WE HAVE HAVE GONE UP IN VALUE,
14, OR $15 TRILLION, THEY HAVE
GONE PROBABLY 20 TRILLION.
THEY WOULD CATCH US ON THE
ECONOMY, THEY WERE GOING TO
CATCH US VERY SOON, NOW THEY ARE
SO FAR BEHIND YOU WOULDN'T
BELIEVE IT.
WE'VE GONE UP A LOT, THE STOCK
MARKET IS UP ALMOST 50% SINCE
THE ELECTION AND THIS IS PUTTING
ON TARIFFS, WITH THE FED -- THE
INTEREST RATES TOO HIGH, YOU
KNOW, FRANKLY, HE MADE A
MISTAKE.
INTEREST RATES ARE TOO HIGH.
WE ARE DOING WELL.
BRIAN: I KNOW IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY
AND YOU HAVE A COUNTRY TO RUN,
BUT LASTLY ON NORTH KOREA DO YOU
KNOW IF THEY KILLED NEGOTIATION
TEAM THAT FAILED TO DO DEAL WITH
YOU, HAVE THEY KILLED THEM?
>> I KNOW THEY DIDN'T KILL THE
TOP PERSON, I SAW A PICTURE IN
THE NEWSPAPER.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY
DID, THEY SAID HE WAS UNHAPPY
WITH RESULT OF THE MEETING,
THAT'S BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE A
DEAL.
I COULD HAVE MADE A DEAL EASILY
BUT I WANT TO MAKE A DEAL THAT
MEANS SOMETHING.
I COULD HAVE WALKED OUT WITH A
DEAL WITH NORTH KOREA.
I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP,
REMEMBER, THIS BRIAN, I'M IN NO
RUSH, THEY ARE NOT TESTING
NUCLEAR, THEY SENT SHORT-RANGE
MISSILES.
BRIAN: THEY ARE BREAKING THE
SANCTIONS.
>> EVERYBODY TRIES TO BREAK
SANCTIONS BUT THE SANCTIONS ARE
HURTING THEM BADLY, WE NEVER
TOOK THE SANCTIONS OFF, WE HAVE
A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, WE WILL SEE
WHAT HAPPENS, BRIAN, WHEN I TOOK
OVER THERE WERE NUCLEAR TESTS,
MISSILES GOING UP, THEY WERE
BEING SENT, REMEMBER GUAM,
REMEMBER JAPAN, RIGHT IN THE
MIDDLE OF JAPAN, YOU DON'T SEE
IT NOW.
WE ARE IN MUCH DIFFERENT
POSITION AND WE DO HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP SO THAT'S
IMPORTANT.
I'M IN NO RUSH.
WE WILL TAKE IT NICE AND EASY.
YOU KNOW, THE PAPERS COULDN'T
BELIEVE WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST
MEETING, THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE
WHEN WE HAD THE SECOND.
WE'VE NEVER HAD MEETINGS, WE
WOULD END UP IN WAR.
IF I WASN'T PRESIDENT YOU WOULD
RIGHT NOW BE IN MAJOR WAR WITH
NORTH KOREA.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
YOU WOULD BE IN MAJOR WAR AND I
DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.
IT COULD HAPPEN BUT I DON'T SEE
IT HAPPENING.
STEVE: MR. PRESIDENT, I SAW CLIP
EARLIER THIS MORNING, ARE YOU
SURE YOU WANT TO DO NEW PAINT
JOB ON AIR FORCE ONE, IT'S BEEN
SO ICONIC FOR SO LONG?
>> I KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT,
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AND FITS
THE PLANE BETTER.
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT PLANE EVEN
THOUGH IT'S A 747.
I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF RED, WHITE
AND BLUE AND THE CLASSIC AND I
THINK IT'LL LOOK MUCH BETTER
ACTUALLY.
THE NAVY BLUE DOESN'T FIT WITH
US.
PEOPLE GET USED TO SOMETHING AND
IT WAS JACKIE O AND THAT'S GOOD
BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN JACKIE O,
IT'S CALLED MELANIA, MELANIA T.
BRIAN: SHE IS DOING A GREAT JOB
AND NOT GET ENOUGH CREDIT.
>> BY THE WAY PEOPLE LOVE HER,
SHE GETS NO CREDIT FROM THE
MEDIA BUT FROM THE PEOPLE.
WHEN I GO SPEAK IN BIG CROWDS,
WE HAVE TREMENDOUS CROWDS AND SO
MANY PEOPLE ARE HOLDING UP
BANNERS, WE LOVE OUR FIRST LADY,
A LOT OF THEM SAY FOR WHATEVER
THEY SAY, WE LOVE HIGH HEELS,
THE TIME THE NEWS SAID SHE
WALKED TO HIGH HEELS TO TEXAS
FLOOD.
SHE LIKES TO LOOK ELEGANT AND
CARRIES SNEAKERS WHEN WE GET
OFF.
THE PEOPLE LOVE THE JOB -- I HAD
SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE
WERE LAUGHING AND HAVING FUN.
HER PEOPLE TOLD ME SHE HASN'T
HAD SO MUCH FUN IN 25 YEARS.
THEN I GOT CRITICIZED FOR IT
BECAUSE THEY SAID WE WERE HAVING
TOO MUCH FUN.
IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT WE HAVE A
GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND I HAD A
GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CHARLES
AND HONESTLY I HAVE A VERY GOOD
RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF THE
FOREIGN LEADERS.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING -- WE
WERE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY MANY
COUNTRIES.
IF YOU LOOK AT NATO COUNTRIES,
$100 BILLION NOW THEY'VE AGREED
TO PAY, WE ARE PAYING NOTHING,
100 BILLION, THEY ARE GOING TO
PAY $100 MORE TOWARD NATO,
TOWARD PROTECTION.
WE WERE PAYING FOR NATO, NOW I
SAID, FOLKS, WE ARE PROTECTING
YOU, YOU HAVE TO STEP UP, YOU
HAVE TO PAY AND THEY'VE AGREED
TO PAY.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAST
15 YEARS IT WAS TERRIBLE WHAT
WAS HAPPENING, NOBODY WAS --
SOME OF THEM WERE TOTALLY
DELINQUENT AS WE USED TO SAY.
TOTALLY DELINQUENT, HEY, LOOK,
WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
WE DO HAVE SOME SITUATIONS, WE
HAVE IRAN, NORTH KOREA
CONTINUES, BUT I'M TELLING YOU,
IF I WEREN'T PRESIDENT YOU WOULD
BE IN A MAJOR WAR RIGHT NOW WITH
NORTH KOREA.
AINSLEY: WE APPRECIATE YOU GOING
TO NORMANDY, D-DAY CELEBRATION
WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL TO HONOR
TROOPS.
>> THANK YOU.
AINSLEY: IT IS YOUR BIRTHDAY
TODAY AND YOU ARE PAINTING AIR
FORCE ONE RED, WHITE AND BLUE,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US, MR. PRESIDENT, HAPPY
BIRTHDAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
BRIAN: THANKS SO MUCH.
STEVE: WE THOUGHT THE INTERVIEW
MIGHT GO 10 MINUTES BUT WENT 50
MINUTES AND 20 SECONDS.
