>>> IF IT FEELS LIKE THE TRUMP
>>> IF IT FEELS LIKE THE TRUMP ERA IS OUT OF A MOVIE THAT IS
ERA IS OUT OF A MOVIE THAT IS PARTLY BECAUSE OF SO MANY OF
PARTLY BECAUSE OF SO MANY OF TODAY’S PERFORMERS RIPPED OFF
TODAY’S PERFORMERS RIPPED OFF THE MOVIES FROM A PRESIDENT
THE MOVIES FROM A PRESIDENT QUOTING HIS IDEA OF TOUGH GUY
QUOTING HIS IDEA OF TOUGH GUY AGAINST THE PROSECUTORS AND ARE
AGAINST THE PROSECUTORS AND ARE TELLING A JUDGE THEY NEED TO
TELLING A JUDGE THEY NEED TO PLAY THE GODFATHER PART 2 AT
PLAY THE GODFATHER PART 2 AT TRIAL TO PROVE STONE’S
TRIAL TO PROVE STONE’S OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. REMINDER OF THE ENDURING CLASSIC
REMINDER OF THE ENDURING CLASSIC THAT EARNED BEST DIRECTOR FOR
THAT EARNED BEST DIRECTOR FOR FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA WHOSE MANY
FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA WHOSE MANY ICONIC FILMS SHAPE OUR IDEAS
ICONIC FILMS SHAPE OUR IDEAS ABOUT CULTURE, CRIME, FOREIGN
ABOUT CULTURE, CRIME, FOREIGN POLICY, WITH SO MANY MEMORABLE
POLICY, WITH SO MANY MEMORABLE LINES.
LINES. >> I’M GOING TO MAKE YOU AN
>> I’M GOING TO MAKE YOU AN OFFER YOU CAN’T REFUSE.
OFFER YOU CAN’T REFUSE. >> I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN
>> I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING.
THE MORNING. >> COPPOLA’S STARK DEPICTIONS OF
>> COPPOLA’S STARK DEPICTIONS OF VIOLENCE, MORAL DILEMMAS AND
VIOLENCE, MORAL DILEMMAS AND WHAT TODAY IS SOMETIMES CALLED
WHAT TODAY IS SOMETIMES CALLED THE STRUGGLE ARE BACK IN THE
THE STRUGGLE ARE BACK IN THE NEWS FOR PARTLY POLITICAL
NEWS FOR PARTLY POLITICAL REASONS "VANITY FAIR" NOTING
REASONS "VANITY FAIR" NOTING THIS NEW PROJECT RIGHTS A WRONG
THIS NEW PROJECT RIGHTS A WRONG BY RESTORING BLACK SCENES IN
BY RESTORING BLACK SCENES IN STORIES TO THE COTTON CLUB.
STORIES TO THE COTTON CLUB. COPPOLA’S 1984 FILM ABOUT HARLEM
COPPOLA’S 1984 FILM ABOUT HARLEM WHICH HE SAYS STUDIOS RESISTED
WHICH HE SAYS STUDIOS RESISTED FOR, QUOTE, TOO MANY BLACK
FOR, QUOTE, TOO MANY BLACK STORIES.
STORIES. WELL, THE NEWLY REMASTERED
WELL, THE NEWLY REMASTERED RELEASE ADDS SOME OF THOSE
RELEASE ADDS SOME OF THOSE STORIES BACK INTO THE FINAL CUT.
STORIES BACK INTO THE FINAL CUT. YOU CAN SEE TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE TODAY. WHICH MAKES THIS A SPECIAL TIME
WHICH MAKES THIS A SPECIAL TIME TO SIT WITH A CULTURAL LEGEND
TO SIT WITH A CULTURAL LEGEND FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA DIRECTOR
FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA DIRECTOR OF "THE GODFATHER TRILOGY" AND
OF "THE GODFATHER TRILOGY" AND PATTON, PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED.
PATTON, PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED. OSCAR WINNER, AN HONOR TO HAVE
OSCAR WINNER, AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE.
YOU HERE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE. "THE COTTON CLUB" WHY NOW AND
"THE COTTON CLUB" WHY NOW AND WHAT’S DIFFERENT?
WHAT’S DIFFERENT? >> "COTTON CLUB" WAS MADE UNDER
>> "COTTON CLUB" WAS MADE UNDER VERY ADVERSE, WAR LIKE
VERY ADVERSE, WAR LIKE CONDITIONS.
CONDITIONS. THERE WAS A BIG DIFFERENCE
THERE WAS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRODUCERS AND THE
BETWEEN THE PRODUCERS AND THE FINANCIERS AND WHO HAD BROUGHT
FINANCIERS AND WHO HAD BROUGHT ME ON.
ME ON. I DID HAVE FINAL CUT ALL THE
I DID HAVE FINAL CUT ALL THE TIME BUT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THIS
TIME BUT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THIS LEGAL FINAL CUT, YOU KNOW, THE
LEGAL FINAL CUT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO PUT UP THE MONEY OR
PEOPLE WHO PUT UP THE MONEY OR ARE ABOUT TO RELEASE IT YOU TRY
ARE ABOUT TO RELEASE IT YOU TRY TO COLLABORATE.
TO COLLABORATE. >> PRESSURE.
>> PRESSURE. YOU FACE PRESSURE.
YOU FACE PRESSURE. >> BUT YOU TRY TO COLLABORATE.
>> BUT YOU TRY TO COLLABORATE. >> YOU TRY TO MEET IN THE
>> YOU TRY TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE.
MIDDLE. >> IN FACT, AT ONE POINT WHEN
>> IN FACT, AT ONE POINT WHEN THEY ALL WENT TO MEET MY LAWYER
THEY ALL WENT TO MEET MY LAWYER AND HE TRIED TO DEMONSTRATE IN
AND HE TRIED TO DEMONSTRATE IN THE CONTRACT ON THE TABLE, THAT
THE CONTRACT ON THE TABLE, THAT I HAD THIS FINAL CUT, THEY SAID,
I HAD THIS FINAL CUT, THEY SAID, THEY KNOCKED THE PAPERS OFF AND
THEY KNOCKED THE PAPERS OFF AND SAID, WELL NOW IT’S OFF THE
SAID, WELL NOW IT’S OFF THE TABLE.
TABLE. SOME OF THEM WERE A LITTLE, YOU
SOME OF THEM WERE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, TOUGH KIND OF GUYS.
KNOW, TOUGH KIND OF GUYS. >> THE KIND OF GUYS YOU MIGHT
>> THE KIND OF GUYS YOU MIGHT SEE IN A COPPOLA MOVIE.
SEE IN A COPPOLA MOVIE. >> VERY DEFINITELY.
>> VERY DEFINITELY. THE MESSAGE I HAD GOTTEN
THE MESSAGE I HAD GOTTEN REPEATEDLY WAS THE FILM WAS TOO
REPEATEDLY WAS THE FILM WAS TOO LONG.
LONG. IT’S TOO MANY BLACK PEOPLE IN
IT’S TOO MANY BLACK PEOPLE IN IT.
IT. AND THERE’S TOO MUCH TAP
AND THERE’S TOO MUCH TAP DANCING.
DANCING. WHICH IS SORT OF TRICKY BECAUSE
WHICH IS SORT OF TRICKY BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT THE COTTON CLUB.
IT WAS ABOUT THE COTTON CLUB. YOU START SHORTENING A FEW
YOU START SHORTENING A FEW MINUTES AND THEN YOU TAKE A
MINUTES AND THEN YOU TAKE A LITTLE MORE AND YOU SAY, WELL,
LITTLE MORE AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON’T KNOW IF
YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON’T KNOW IF PEOPLE DON’T LIKE THAT THERE’S
PEOPLE DON’T LIKE THAT THERE’S TOO MANY BLACK STORIES MAYBE THE
TOO MANY BLACK STORIES MAYBE THE ONE COULD BE A LITTLE LESS.
ONE COULD BE A LITTLE LESS. I THOUGHT I WAS TAKING A FEW
I THOUGHT I WAS TAKING A FEW MINUTES OUT BUT I ENDED UP
MINUTES OUT BUT I ENDED UP TAKING 40 MINUTES OUT.
TAKING 40 MINUTES OUT. THEN I REALLY WANTED TO PUT THEM
THEN I REALLY WANTED TO PUT THEM BACK BECAUSE I FELT THE PICTURE,
BACK BECAUSE I FELT THE PICTURE, WHEN A FILM, THEY SAY A FILM IS
WHEN A FILM, THEY SAY A FILM IS TOO LONG, IT MAY MEAN THEY JUST
TOO LONG, IT MAY MEAN THEY JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND THE STORY SO TO
DON’T UNDERSTAND THE STORY SO TO THEM IT SEEMS LONG BECAUSE THEY
THEM IT SEEMS LONG BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON.
DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON. >> LONG JUST MEANS THEY DON’T
>> LONG JUST MEANS THEY DON’T GET IT.
GET IT. >> SO I FOUND THAT "THE COTTON
>> SO I FOUND THAT "THE COTTON CLUB" WHEN I PUT THE TIME BACK
CLUB" WHEN I PUT THE TIME BACK IN CAME ALIVE SUDDENLY AND WAS
IN CAME ALIVE SUDDENLY AND WAS BALANCED AND THE FACT THAT THERE
BALANCED AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS TWO BLACK BROTHERS AND TWO
WAS TWO BLACK BROTHERS AND TWO WHITE BROTHERS AND THEIR STORIES
WHITE BROTHERS AND THEIR STORIES WERE BALANCED AND MADE IT REALLY
WERE BALANCED AND MADE IT REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND INTRICATE.
BEAUTIFUL AND INTRICATE. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND A MOVIE
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND A MOVIE IS AN ILLUSION THAT WHEN THE
IS AN ILLUSION THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT A FILM ON
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT A FILM ON THE SCREEN YOU’RE SEEING A LOT
THE SCREEN YOU’RE SEEING A LOT OF SHADOWS.
OF SHADOWS. THE EMOTION IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
THE EMOTION IS IN THE AUDIENCE. THE AUDIENCE IS WHAT HAS -- THE
THE AUDIENCE IS WHAT HAS -- THE ILLUSION IF IT WORKS THEY
ILLUSION IF IT WORKS THEY RELEASE ALL THAT EMOTION.
RELEASE ALL THAT EMOTION. WE FOUND THE RIGHT BALANCE AND
WE FOUND THE RIGHT BALANCE AND SUDDENLY IT CAME TO LIFE.
SUDDENLY IT CAME TO LIFE. >> I GOT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE
>> I GOT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE BOB MUELLER PROSECUTORS BUILDING
BOB MUELLER PROSECUTORS BUILDING THIS CASE AGAINST ROGER STONE
THIS CASE AGAINST ROGER STONE THAT RESTS PARTLY ON "THE
THAT RESTS PARTLY ON "THE GODFATHER 2."
GODFATHER 2." YOU HEARD OF THIS?
YOU HEARD OF THIS? >> I HEARD OF THAT.
>> I HEARD OF THAT. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU FIRST HEARD THAT YOU’VE GOT
FIRST HEARD THAT YOU’VE GOT PEOPLE, MAYBE WANNA-BE
PEOPLE, MAYBE WANNA-BE GANGSTERS, AND THEY’RE LITERALLY
GANGSTERS, AND THEY’RE LITERALLY TRYING TO RE-ENACT THE
TRYING TO RE-ENACT THE CONGRESSIONAL OBSTRUCTION SCENE
CONGRESSIONAL OBSTRUCTION SCENE BECAUSE THIS IS BEING LITIGATED
BECAUSE THIS IS BEING LITIGATED AS YOU KNOW.
AS YOU KNOW. I WANT TO READ FROM, THESE ARE
I WANT TO READ FROM, THESE ARE THE PROSECUTORS WHO TOOK OVER
THE PROSECUTORS WHO TOOK OVER FOR MUELLER AND THEY SAY THIS
FOR MUELLER AND THEY SAY THIS GODFATHER CLIP HAS TO BE PLAYED
GODFATHER CLIP HAS TO BE PLAYED IN ROGER STONE’S TRIAL BECAUSE
IN ROGER STONE’S TRIAL BECAUSE IT IS DRAMATIC, RELEVANT TO SOME
IT IS DRAMATIC, RELEVANT TO SOME OF THE FACTS IN THE CASE, A
OF THE FACTS IN THE CASE, A WITNESS IN A CONGRESSIONAL
WITNESS IN A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION PRESSURED TO GIVE
INVESTIGATION PRESSURED TO GIVE FALSE TESTIMONY WHICH EXPLAINS
FALSE TESTIMONY WHICH EXPLAINS ROGER STONE’S REFERENCES TO THIS
ROGER STONE’S REFERENCES TO THIS SCENE.
SCENE. >> WELL, I MEAN, OVER THE LAST
>> WELL, I MEAN, OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, SOME OF THE MOST
20 YEARS, SOME OF THE MOST UNATTRACTIVE POLITICAL LEADERS
UNATTRACTIVE POLITICAL LEADERS IN THE WORLD, FROM SADDAM
IN THE WORLD, FROM SADDAM HUSSEIN AND QADDAFI AND I COULD
HUSSEIN AND QADDAFI AND I COULD GO ON AND ON, THAT’S THEIR
GO ON AND ON, THAT’S THEIR FAVORITE MOVIE.
FAVORITE MOVIE. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING IN THIS
THERE MUST BE SOMETHING IN THIS PIECE OF FICTION.
PIECE OF FICTION. >> DO YOU THINK THE PROSECUTORS
>> DO YOU THINK THE PROSECUTORS ARE RIGHT?
ARE RIGHT? THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY YOUR
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY YOUR FILM IN THIS CASE?
FILM IN THIS CASE? >> IF IT’S RELEVANT TO THE CASE,
>> IF IT’S RELEVANT TO THE CASE, AND I MEAN, "GODFATHER" HAS
AND I MEAN, "GODFATHER" HAS BECOME PART OF THE CULTURE FROM
BECOME PART OF THE CULTURE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW ANYONE WHO
MY POINT OF VIEW ANYONE WHO WOULD TAKE A, STUFF FROM A
WOULD TAKE A, STUFF FROM A FICTIONAL GANGSTER PICTURE AND
FICTIONAL GANGSTER PICTURE AND PUT IT IN REAL LIFE, THE
PUT IT IN REAL LIFE, THE BEHAVIOR IN "THE GODFATHER" IS
BEHAVIOR IN "THE GODFATHER" IS NOT BEHAVIOR I RECOMMEND.
NOT BEHAVIOR I RECOMMEND. I ALWAYS THOUGHT PEOPLE WHO
I ALWAYS THOUGHT PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE INTIMIDATION AND
WOULD USE INTIMIDATION AND VIOLENCE AND CRUELTY ARE BELOW
VIOLENCE AND CRUELTY ARE BELOW MY LOWEST REGARD FOR ANOTHER
MY LOWEST REGARD FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.
HUMAN BEING. SO I DON’T RECOMMEND THAT KIND
SO I DON’T RECOMMEND THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR.
OF BEHAVIOR. >> AND WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE
>> AND WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE AS YOU SAID IN AMERICA AND
AS YOU SAID IN AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD ARE SO
AROUND THE WORLD ARE SO FASCINATED BY THAT THE STORY OF
FASCINATED BY THAT THE STORY OF FAMILY LOYALTY BUT ALSO
FAMILY LOYALTY BUT ALSO BRUTALITY?
BRUTALITY? >> BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERESTED
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE MECHANISMS OF POWER.
IN THE MECHANISMS OF POWER. "THE GODFATHER" IS A KIND OF
"THE GODFATHER" IS A KIND OF TEXTBOOK OF SAYING ONE THING BUT
TEXTBOOK OF SAYING ONE THING BUT MEANING ANOTHER.
MEANING ANOTHER. YOU KNOW, IT’S METHOD OF HOW
YOU KNOW, IT’S METHOD OF HOW YOUR REPUTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED
YOUR REPUTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST YOU CAN BE VERY
IN THE PAST YOU CAN BE VERY FRIENDLY AND VERY NICE ABOUT,
FRIENDLY AND VERY NICE ABOUT, SAYING WHAT WOULD BE THE RESULT
SAYING WHAT WOULD BE THE RESULT IF YOU DON’T GO ALONG WITH ME
IF YOU DON’T GO ALONG WITH ME BUT YOU’RE -- THE PAST SPEAKS
BUT YOU’RE -- THE PAST SPEAKS VERY LOUDLY.
VERY LOUDLY. SO IT’S INTIMIDATION.
