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what did you learn from president obama
john i know you were a supporter early i
know you were close to him
uh and i know i think you were with him
up to and through the goodbye party
so you stayed close the whole way long
what did you learn from president obama
either up close or from afar when you
have so much invested in the success
of a president you start to understand
the challenges
uh that they face even more you start to
understand how our system
really works and it made me
it made me pessimistic about the power
of a president to get anything done
it's so hard you notice almost every
legislative success
obama had was in the first two years of
his presidency
and that was because he had a 60 vote
majority
in the senate and as soon as he didn't
have that
it was nearly impossible to get anything
done outside of an executive order
anytime there's an opposing legislature
in office it's nearly impossible for the
president to enact their agenda
and so it's an odd mismatch
of power and accountability uh
and so i believe we should have a
parliamentary system when we go
to other countries and we try to help
them form a democracy
help them write their constitution we
never tell them to get a president
they always go to parliament and a prime
minister we are done
john so what did you learn in watching
president trump i mean of course i know
you're not a supporter but i also feel
like
you're one of these perpetual students
you know you're always watching and
learning from things
so what if anything have you learned in
watching trump
learned well i think
there was a major backlash to obama
becoming
the first black president and that gave
us donald trump
um we literally got the worst possible
person
um in response to
obama i think partly because a lot of
people felt like their country was being
taken away
because obama got elected hey john it's
interesting as i hear you talk about
this and i hear you talk about a number
of different policy issues
it makes me wonder if you're going to
run for office one day are you thinking
about that
i'm not i don't think i'm going to ever
run for office but i
really do believe that part of who i am
is
to be engaged in politics part of who i
am is to speak out when i
care about things i've always looked up
to artists who did the same thing
because i looked at stevie wonder i
looked at marvin gaye i looked at
nina simone i looked at aretha i looked
at
paul robeson and harry belafonte and all
these
different artists that um that was part
of who they were as an artist and they
used their voice
wisely they used it powerfully to make
change
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