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>>> IT’S NOW TIME FOR A SPECIAL
>>> IT’S NOW TIME FOR A SPECIAL EDITION OF "FALLBACK."
EDITION OF "FALLBACK." AND JOINING ME IS GRAMMY AWARD
AND JOINING ME IS GRAMMY AWARD WINNING MUSICIAN, QUITE BUSY,
WINNING MUSICIAN, QUITE BUSY, SIX ALBUMS SOLO, KEYBOARDEST FOR
SIX ALBUMS SOLO, KEYBOARDEST FOR A BAND MAY HAVE HEARD OF, MAROON
A BAND MAY HAVE HEARD OF, MAROON 5.
5. HIS BRAND NEW ALBUM IS PAUL AND
HIS BRAND NEW ALBUM IS PAUL AND HE’S HITTING THE ROAD KICKING
HE’S HITTING THE ROAD KICKING OFF AN INTERNATIONAL TOUR WHICH
OFF AN INTERNATIONAL TOUR WHICH WE’LL GET INTO IT.
WE’LL GET INTO IT. AND ALSO JOINED BY RICK STENGEL,
AND ALSO JOINED BY RICK STENGEL, ALSO WORKED WITH NELSON MANDELA
ALSO WORKED WITH NELSON MANDELA AND WAS TIMES MAGAZINE --
AND WAS TIMES MAGAZINE -- >> NO GRAMMYS, HUH?
>> NO GRAMMYS, HUH? >> NOT YET.
>> NOT YET. >> IT’S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH
>> IT’S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU.
YOU. >> FANTASTIC.
>> FANTASTIC. THERE’S A LOT TO GET TO.
THERE’S A LOT TO GET TO. I’M WONDERING WHAT’S ON YOUR
I’M WONDERING WHAT’S ON YOUR LIST, PJ TO FALL BACK.
LIST, PJ TO FALL BACK. >> I WANT RUDY GIULIANI OR THE
>> I WANT RUDY GIULIANI OR THE IDEA OF RUDY GIULIANI TO FALL
IDEA OF RUDY GIULIANI TO FALL BACK.
BACK. YOU KNOW, I’M NOT A NEW YORKER.
YOU KNOW, I’M NOT A NEW YORKER. FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, YOU
FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, YOU KNOW, SEEMED LIKE THIS GREAT
KNOW, SEEMED LIKE THIS GREAT FIGURE IN NEW YORK AND BRINGING
FIGURE IN NEW YORK AND BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED EXACTLY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE
EXACTLY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING FLIPPED AND I DON’T
SOMETHING FLIPPED AND I DON’T RECOGNIZE HIM.
RECOGNIZE HIM. >> YOU’RE MENTIONING SOMETHING A
>> YOU’RE MENTIONING SOMETHING A LOT OF AMERICANS FEEL, WHICH IS
LOT OF AMERICANS FEEL, WHICH IS AT A DISTANCE THERE WAS A TIME
AT A DISTANCE THERE WAS A TIME WHEN GIULIANI WAS ASSOCIATING
WHEN GIULIANI WAS ASSOCIATING HIMSELF WITH EVERYTHING THAT
HIMSELF WITH EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE UNITY AND HOW TO
COULD BE UNITY AND HOW TO RESPOND TO 9/11, AND NOW PEOPLE
RESPOND TO 9/11, AND NOW PEOPLE LOOK UP AND THIS GUY IS
LOOK UP AND THIS GUY IS LITERALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION.
LITERALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION. >> YEAH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
>> YEAH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF IT.
ALL OF IT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE A DIFFERENT
SO IT SEEMS LIKE A DIFFERENT GIULIANI THAN THE ONE I
GIULIANI THAN THE ONE I REMEMBERED.
REMEMBERED. >> WHAT’S ON YOUR LIST?
>> WHAT’S ON YOUR LIST? >> WHAT’S ON MY LIST IS RAND
>> WHAT’S ON MY LIST IS RAND PAUL CALLING FOR THE EXPOSING OF
PAUL CALLING FOR THE EXPOSING OF THE IDENTITY OF THE
THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER.
WHISTLE-BLOWER. THE WHISTLE-BLOWER ACT IS
THE WHISTLE-BLOWER ACT IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE IDENTITY
DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE IDENTITY OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO
OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO EXPOSE WRONGDOING, TO PROTECT
EXPOSE WRONGDOING, TO PROTECT THEM FROM RETALIATION.
THEM FROM RETALIATION. AND RAND PAUL IS UP THERE NEXT
AND RAND PAUL IS UP THERE NEXT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING WE
TO PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING WE NEED TO EXPOSE THE IDENTITY OF
NEED TO EXPOSE THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER.
THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. TO ME THAT IS VIOLATION OF THE
TO ME THAT IS VIOLATION OF THE LAW JUST TO EVEN DO THAT.
LAW JUST TO EVEN DO THAT. >> PJ, WHEN WE WERE GETTING
>> PJ, WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY FOR THIS SEGMENT I HEARD
READY FOR THIS SEGMENT I HEARD YOU HAVE A FALL BACK THAT’S
YOU HAVE A FALL BACK THAT’S RIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION OF
RIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION OF CULTURE AND POLITICS, AND IT
CULTURE AND POLITICS, AND IT RELATES TO SOMETHING THAT BARACK
RELATES TO SOMETHING THAT BARACK OBAMA JUST WEIGHED IN ON.
OBAMA JUST WEIGHED IN ON. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND
LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.
HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. HERE’S BARACK OBAMA.
HERE’S BARACK OBAMA. >> THERE IS THIS SENSE SOMETIMES
>> THERE IS THIS SENSE SOMETIMES OF THE WAY OF ME MAKING CHANGE
OF THE WAY OF ME MAKING CHANGE IS TO BE AS JUDGMENTAL AS
IS TO BE AS JUDGMENTAL AS POSSIBLE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.
POSSIBLE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. AND THAT’S ENOUGH.
AND THAT’S ENOUGH. LIKE IF I TWEET OR HASHTAG ABOUT
LIKE IF I TWEET OR HASHTAG ABOUT HOW YOU DIDN’T DO SOMETHING
HOW YOU DIDN’T DO SOMETHING RIGHT OR USE THE WORD, WRONG
RIGHT OR USE THE WORD, WRONG VERB THEN I CAN SIT BACK AND
VERB THEN I CAN SIT BACK AND FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MYSELF.
FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MYSELF. BECAUSE MAN YOU SEE HOW WOKE I
BECAUSE MAN YOU SEE HOW WOKE I WAS?
WAS? I CALLED YOU OUT.
I CALLED YOU OUT. THAT’S NOT ACTIVISM.
THAT’S NOT ACTIVISM. THAT’S NOT BRINGING ABOUT
THAT’S NOT BRINGING ABOUT CHANGE.
CHANGE. >> YEAH, CANCEL CULTURE I WANT
>> YEAH, CANCEL CULTURE I WANT THAT TO FALL BACK.
THAT TO FALL BACK. IT’S SO EASY TO SIT BACK AND I
IT’S SO EASY TO SIT BACK AND I THINK EVEN MY GENERATION, YOU
THINK EVEN MY GENERATION, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON
KNOW, WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ONLINE THAT I
SOCIAL MEDIA AND ONLINE THAT I THINK WE START TO FIGHT OUR
THINK WE START TO FIGHT OUR BATTLES THERE AS WELL INSTEAD OF
BATTLES THERE AS WELL INSTEAD OF DOING REAL WORK TO MAKE THINGS
DOING REAL WORK TO MAKE THINGS MOVE.
MOVE. >> AND YOU SAID CANCEL CULTURE.
>> AND YOU SAID CANCEL CULTURE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? >> CANCEL CULTURE HAD IF YOU DO
>> CANCEL CULTURE HAD IF YOU DO ONE BAD THING OR MAKE A MISTAKE
ONE BAD THING OR MAKE A MISTAKE THERE’S NO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
THERE’S NO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DID OR GIVE YOU A
WHAT YOU DID OR GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO CHANGE THAT.
CHANCE TO CHANGE THAT. IT’S LIKE NO, YOU DID SOMETHING
IT’S LIKE NO, YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG, THAT’S IT.
WRONG, THAT’S IT. >> I’M BEING IN YOUR TENURE AT
>> I’M BEING IN YOUR TENURE AT TIME MAGAZINE YOU PUBLISHED
TIME MAGAZINE YOU PUBLISHED ARTICLES AND IDEAS AND PEOPLE
ARTICLES AND IDEAS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE DISAGREED
THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE DISAGREED WITH BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT IT WAS
WITH BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH DISCUSSING.
WORTH DISCUSSING. >> YES, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT’S
>> YES, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT’S WHAT THIS MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS
WHAT THIS MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS IS WE NEED TO HEAR EVERYBODY’S
IS WE NEED TO HEAR EVERYBODY’S ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. IN FACT, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT
IN FACT, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT TAPE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA.
TAPE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA. I THINK IT WAS IN THAT SAME
I THINK IT WAS IN THAT SAME INTERVIEW HE ALSO HAD TO SAY
INTERVIEW HE ALSO HAD TO SAY KINDNESS IS A VIRTUE FOR A MAN,
KINDNESS IS A VIRTUE FOR A MAN, THAT KINDNESS IS NOT A WEAKNESS.
THAT KINDNESS IS NOT A WEAKNESS. THAT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS
THAT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS UNKIND AND EXPLOITS OTHER
UNKIND AND EXPLOITS OTHER PEOPLES WEAKNESSES AND OBAMA IS
PEOPLES WEAKNESSES AND OBAMA IS ALWAYS SAYING I WANT TO PRAISE
ALWAYS SAYING I WANT TO PRAISE PEOPLE AND BRING THEM UP, I
PEOPLE AND BRING THEM UP, I DON’T WANT TO BRING THEM DOWN.
DON’T WANT TO BRING THEM DOWN. >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO I WANT TO
>> BEFORE I LET YOU GO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR MUSIC A LITTLE
TALK ABOUT YOUR MUSIC A LITTLE BIT.
BIT. IT’S VARIED.
IT’S VARIED. YOU HAVE SONGS THAT’S FUN AND
YOU HAVE SONGS THAT’S FUN AND INTERESTING AND LOVE, PARTY.
INTERESTING AND LOVE, PARTY. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE STUFF THAT’S
THEN YOU ALSO HAVE STUFF THAT’S MUCH MORE SOCIAL AND POLITICAL.
MUCH MORE SOCIAL AND POLITICAL. YOU HAVE A SONG CALLED MAGA.
YOU HAVE A SONG CALLED MAGA. >> I DO, YEAH.
>> I DO, YEAH. >> AND YOU SAY IT CAN’T LAST
>> AND YOU SAY IT CAN’T LAST FOREVER, SEASONS CHANGE AS DOES
FOREVER, SEASONS CHANGE AS DOES THE WEATHER.
THE WEATHER. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN I THINK
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN I THINK THEY MEAN IT WAS GREAT FOR THEM.
THEY MEAN IT WAS GREAT FOR THEM. CAUSE IT WASN’T SO GREAT FOR
CAUSE IT WASN’T SO GREAT FOR EVERYONE BACK THEN.
EVERYONE BACK THEN. >> YES.
>> YES. >> TELL US ABOUT THIS.
>> TELL US ABOUT THIS. >> YEAH, I MEAN IT’S VERY
>> YEAH, I MEAN IT’S VERY SIMPLISTIC TO ME AND IT COMES
SIMPLISTIC TO ME AND IT COMES DOWN TO DIALOGUE.
DOWN TO DIALOGUE. AGAIN, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS WHEN
AGAIN, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS WHEN DO YOU MEAN AND FOR WHO WHEN
DO YOU MEAN AND FOR WHO WHEN AMERICA WAS GREAT.
AMERICA WAS GREAT. BECAUSE IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE
BECAUSE IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE GLARING ’50s WHEN PEOPLE HAD
GLARING ’50s WHEN PEOPLE HAD THEIR WHITE PICKET FENCES AND
THEIR WHITE PICKET FENCES AND PURPLE HOUSES, I DON’T KNOW MY
PURPLE HOUSES, I DON’T KNOW MY PEOPLE HAD THAT.
PEOPLE HAD THAT. IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK THERE,
IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK THERE, I’M NOT A FAN OF THAT.
I’M NOT A FAN OF THAT. I’D RATHER START HERE AND KEEP
I’D RATHER START HERE AND KEEP TRYING TO MAKE AMERICA BETTER.
TRYING TO MAKE AMERICA BETTER. >> HOW DO YOUR FANS RESPOND
>> HOW DO YOUR FANS RESPOND BECAUSE SOME OF THEM YOU MIGHT
BECAUSE SOME OF THEM YOU MIGHT KNOW FROM MAROON 5 ARE NOT SO
KNOW FROM MAROON 5 ARE NOT SO HIP TO THIS.
HIP TO THIS. >> I BELIEVE FANS UNDERSTAND I’M
>> I BELIEVE FANS UNDERSTAND I’M JUST HONEST AND I’M TRYING TO
JUST HONEST AND I’M TRYING TO GET ACROSS TRUTH AND CREATE
GET ACROSS TRUTH AND CREATE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW?
CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW? SO I DON’T THINK MUCH PAST THAT.
SO I DON’T THINK MUCH PAST THAT. THEN THAT’S OKAY FOR THEM TO NOT
THEN THAT’S OKAY FOR THEM TO NOT BE MY FAN, BUT PEOPLE WHO KNOW
BE MY FAN, BUT PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME AND BUY INTO WHAT I DO
ME AND BUY INTO WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND I’M ABOUT HONESTY AND
UNDERSTAND I’M ABOUT HONESTY AND HONEST CONVERSATION, AND THAT
HONEST CONVERSATION, AND THAT WAS A GENUINE QUESTION FOR ME SO
WAS A GENUINE QUESTION FOR ME SO I THOUGHT I’D POSE IT IN SONG.
I THOUGHT I’D POSE IT IN SONG. >> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
