WAITING FOR, THE END OF MY SHOW, AND "THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW"
AND "THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW" BEGINS.
BEGINS. >> THANKS A LOT, MY FRIEND.
>> THANKS A LOT, MY FRIEND. \S
\S >>> LAST NIGHT ON THE EVENING OF
>>> LAST NIGHT ON THE EVENING OF THE IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES BEING
THE IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES BEING CONVEYED FROM THE HOUSE TO THE
CONVEYED FROM THE HOUSE TO THE SENATE FOR THE START OF THE
SENATE FOR THE START OF THE SENATE TRIAL THAT WILL DECIDE
SENATE TRIAL THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP
WHETHER OR NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS REMOVED FROM OFFICE, LAST
IS REMOVED FROM OFFICE, LAST NIGHT THE COMMITTEES THAT
NIGHT THE COMMITTEES THAT CONDUCTED THE IMPEACHMENT
CONDUCTED THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION ADDED A BONUS
INVESTIGATION ADDED A BONUS ROUND TO THE MATERIALS THAT THEY
ROUND TO THE MATERIALS THAT THEY PLANNED TO CONVEY TO THE SENATE.
PLANNED TO CONVEY TO THE SENATE. ALONGSIDE THE ARTICLES OF
ALONGSIDE THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, THEY ADDED NEW
IMPEACHMENT, THEY ADDED NEW EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. THESE NEWLY OBTAINED DOCUMENTS
THESE NEWLY OBTAINED DOCUMENTS AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM A MAN
AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM A MAN NAMED LEV PARNAS.
NAMED LEV PARNAS. LEV PARNAS IS A SOVIET-BORN,
LEV PARNAS IS A SOVIET-BORN, RUSSIAN-SPEAKING U.S. CITIZEN
RUSSIAN-SPEAKING U.S. CITIZEN WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH
WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI ON THE
LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI ON THE SCHEME IN UKRAINE, FOR WHICH THE
SCHEME IN UKRAINE, FOR WHICH THE PRESIDENT HAS NOBODY YOU
PRESIDENT HAS NOBODY YOU IMPEACHED.
IMPEACHED. TO PRESSURE UKRAINE ANNOUNCING
TO PRESSURE UKRAINE ANNOUNCING INVESTIGATION OF JOE BIDEN, THE
INVESTIGATION OF JOE BIDEN, THE CONCURRENT USE OF MILITARY AID,
CONCURRENT USE OF MILITARY AID, A AND VISITS WITH U.S.
A AND VISITS WITH U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND OTHER
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND OTHER THINGS THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
THINGS THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT DESPERATELY WANTED, BASICALLY’S
DESPERATELY WANTED, BASICALLY’S COUNTRY
COUNTRY KUDGELS.
KUDGELS. TONIGHT THE ARTICLES OF
TONIGHT THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT HAVE BEEN WALKED
IMPEACHMENT HAVE BEEN WALKED OVER, ACTUALLY BASICALLY RIGHT
OVER, ACTUALLY BASICALLY RIGHT AS THAT WAS HAPPENING, THE
AS THAT WAS HAPPENING, THE IMPEACHMENT COMMITTEES IN THE
IMPEACHMENT COMMITTEES IN THE HOUSE, SIMULTANEOUSLY TO THIS
HOUSE, SIMULTANEOUSLY TO THIS MOMENT, RELEASED SOME ADDITIONAL
MOMENT, RELEASED SOME ADDITIONAL PHONE RECORDS FROM MR. PARNAS,
PHONE RECORDS FROM MR. PARNAS, WHICH HAVE REVEALED YET FURTHER
WHICH HAVE REVEALED YET FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT WHO WAS
INFORMATION ABOUT WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS SCHEME AND HOW
INVOLVED IN THIS SCHEME AND HOW IT WORKED.
IT WORKED. WELL, TODAY IN NEW YORK CITY I
WELL, TODAY IN NEW YORK CITY I MET WITH LEV PARNAS, AND WITH
MET WITH LEV PARNAS, AND WITH HIS LAWYER JOSEPH BONDI.
HIS LAWYER JOSEPH BONDI. TONIGHT WE’RE GOING TO BRENT
TONIGHT WE’RE GOING TO BRENT THIS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW.
THIS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW. MR. PARNAS HAS NEVER SPOKEN IN A
MR. PARNAS HAS NEVER SPOKEN IN A TELEVISED INTERVIEW.
TELEVISED INTERVIEW. HE’S NOT SPOKEN TO REPORTERS AT
HE’S NOT SPOKEN TO REPORTERS AT ALL SINCE HIS NAME SURFACED IN
ALL SINCE HIS NAME SURFACED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SCANDAL AND
CONJUNCTION WITH A SCANDAL AND SINCE HE WAS ARRESTED ON OCTOBER
SINCE HE WAS ARRESTED ON OCTOBER 9th, WITH A ONE-WAY TICKET AT
9th, WITH A ONE-WAY TICKET AT DULLES AIRPORT.
DULLES AIRPORT. HE WAS CHARGED WITH FEDERAL
HE WAS CHARGED WITH FEDERAL FELONY COUNTS FOR FUNNELING
FELONY COUNTS FOR FUNNELING ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO
ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES AND
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES AND CAMPAIGNS.
CAMPAIGNS. MR. PARNAS IS UNDER INDICTMENT,
MR. PARNAS IS UNDER INDICTMENT, AWAITING TRIAL.
AWAITING TRIAL. HE HAS PLED NOT GUILTY.
HE HAS PLED NOT GUILTY. HE AGREED TO SPEAK WITH ME TODAY
HE AGREED TO SPEAK WITH ME TODAY ON THE CONDITION THAT HIS
ON THE CONDITION THAT HIS LAWYER, JOSEPH BONDI, WOULD BE
LAWYER, JOSEPH BONDI, WOULD BE SEATED ALONGSIDE HIM THROUGHOUT
SEATED ALONGSIDE HIM THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEW.
THE INTERVIEW. THAT’S A CONDITION I AGREED TO.
THAT’S A CONDITION I AGREED TO. TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE I AGREED
TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE I AGREED TO THAT CONDITION, I FULLY
TO THAT CONDITION, I FULLY EXPECTED THAT IT WOULD BE MR.
EXPECTED THAT IT WOULD BE MR. BONDI, THE LAWYER, WHO DID MOST
BONDI, THE LAWYER, WHO DID MOST OF THE TALKING, BUT IT DID NOT
OF THE TALKING, BUT IT DID NOT WORK OUT THAT WAY.
WORK OUT THAT WAY. MR. PARNAS, AS YOU SEE HERE, HE
MR. PARNAS, AS YOU SEE HERE, HE IS ABSOLUTELY HERE TO
IS ABSOLUTELY HERE TO HERE, HE
IS ABSOLUTELY HERE TO HERE, HE IS ABSOLUTELY HERE T
SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, AND IS MORE
SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, AND IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF DOING SO.
THAN CAPABLE OF DOING SO. HE AND HIS ATTORNEY HAVE MADE
HE AND HIS ATTORNEY HAVE MADE CLEAR IN RECENT DAYS AND WEEKS
CLEAR IN RECENT DAYS AND WEEKS THAT LEV PARNAS DOES WANT TO
THAT LEV PARNAS DOES WANT TO TESTIFY TO THE IMPEACHMENT
TESTIFY TO THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. THAT SAID, I CAN’T STRESS ENOUGH
THAT SAID, I CAN’T STRESS ENOUGH THAT HE RIGHT NOW IS OUT ON BOND
THAT HE RIGHT NOW IS OUT ON BOND AWAITING TRIAL IN FEDERAL COURT
AWAITING TRIAL IN FEDERAL COURT ON SERIOUS FELONY CHARGES.
ON SERIOUS FELONY CHARGES. SO THE DECISION FOR HIM TO DO
SO THE DECISION FOR HIM TO DO THIS INTERVIEW WITH ME TODAY IS
THIS INTERVIEW WITH ME TODAY IS VERY UNUSUAL.
VERY UNUSUAL. PEOPLE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, IN
PEOPLE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, IN TERMS OF FEDERAL FELONY CHARGES,
TERMS OF FEDERAL FELONY CHARGES, DON’T TYPICALLY DO MEDIA
DON’T TYPICALLY DO MEDIA INTERVIEWS, BUT THEY AGREED TO
INTERVIEWS, BUT THEY AGREED TO SIT DOWN WITH ME TODAY, AND WE
SIT DOWN WITH ME TODAY, AND WE DID IT.
DID IT. LET’S GET RIGHT TO IT.
LET’S GET RIGHT TO IT. I WILL TELL YOU IN ADVANCE, TO
I WILL TELL YOU IN ADVANCE, TO SET THE STAGE, IN THIS
SET THE STAGE, IN THIS INTERVIEW, YOU WILL HEAR LEV
INTERVIEW, YOU WILL HEAR LEV PARNAS MAKE SOME BOMBSHELL
PARNAS MAKE SOME BOMBSHELL ASSERTIONS ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT
ASSERTIONS ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT AND KNOWLEDGE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
AND KNOWLEDGE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE IN
AND VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE IN THE UKRAINE SCANDAL.
THE UKRAINE SCANDAL. HE WILL MAKE A SPECIFIC
HE WILL MAKE A SPECIFIC ALLEGATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S
ALLEGATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S UNIQUE ROLE IN HOLDING UP THE
UNIQUE ROLE IN HOLDING UP THE U.S. AID TO UKRAINE AS AN
U.S. AID TO UKRAINE AS AN ADDITIONAL LEVER OF PRESSURE
ADDITIONAL LEVER OF PRESSURE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN
AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. YOU WILL ALSO HEAR FAIRLY
YOU WILL ALSO HEAR FAIRLY EXPLICIT ALLEGATIONS BY MR.
EXPLICIT ALLEGATIONS BY MR. PARNAS ABOUT ATTORNEY GENERAL
PARNAS ABOUT ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR.
WILLIAM BARR. HE ALSO MAKES SOME ALLEGATIONS
HE ALSO MAKES SOME ALLEGATIONS ABOUT SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS OF
ABOUT SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CABINET.
THE CABINET. WE’LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE
WE’LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE TONIGHT, AND WE’RE SAVING SOME
TONIGHT, AND WE’RE SAVING SOME TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW SO WE CAN
TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW SO WE CAN DO SOME ADDITIONAL REPORTING
DO SOME ADDITIONAL REPORTING AROUND THEM.
AROUND THEM. ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, AS MR.
ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, AS MR. PARNAS MAKES PENALTYAT THE TOP O
PARNAS MAKES PENALTYAT THE TOP O INTERVIEW, HE NOSE THAT IN
INTERVIEW, HE NOSE THAT IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE IT
ADDITION TO ALL OF THE IT EVIDENCE, HE STILL HAS YET MORE
EVIDENCE, HE STILL HAS YET MORE TO SHARE.
TO SHARE. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. HERE WITH GO.
HERE WITH GO. >>> MR. PARNAS, MR. BONDI, THANK
>>> MR. PARNAS, MR. BONDI, THANK YOU BOTH FOR AGREES TO DO THIS.
YOU BOTH FOR AGREES TO DO THIS. I KNOW THIS IS A LEAP OF TRUST
I KNOW THIS IS A LEAP OF TRUST TO SPEAK PUSHILY.
TO SPEAK PUSHILY. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR AGREES
THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR AGREES TO DO IT.
TO DO IT. >> THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >>> LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, LEV,
>>> LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, LEV, DID YOU KNOW THESE MATERIALS
DID YOU KNOW THESE MATERIALS WOULD BE RELEASED PUBLICLY LAST
WOULD BE RELEASED PUBLICLY LAST NIGHT?
NIGHT? IT’S LANDED WITH QUITE A SPLASH.
IT’S LANDED WITH QUITE A SPLASH. IT’S VERY PROVOCATIVE MATERIAL.
IT’S VERY PROVOCATIVE MATERIAL. DID YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE MADE
DID YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE MADE PUBLIC?
PUBLIC? >> NO, I DIDN’T.
>> NO, I DIDN’T. YES, IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY.
YES, IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY. IT WAS A GODSEND WITH JOE’S HELP
IT WAS A GODSEND WITH JOE’S HELP TO GET THAT IN TIME.
TO GET THAT IN TIME. WE DIDN’T THINK WE WOULD MAKE
WE DIDN’T THINK WE WOULD MAKE IT.
IT. WE STAYED UP TO LOOK 2:00 IN THE
WE STAYED UP TO LOOK 2:00 IN THE MORNING TO SEND INFORMATION.
MORNING TO SEND INFORMATION. >> WHAT WAS THE DEADLINE.
>> WHAT WAS THE DEADLINE. >> THE DEADLINE WAS TRYING TO
>> THE DEADLINE WAS TRYING TO SAY IT TOLE INTEL CLEANSE
SAY IT TOLE INTEL CLEANSE COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. WITH THE ARTICLE GOES THE RECORD
WITH THE ARTICLE GOES THE RECORD S WE HAD REASON TO BELIEVE
S WE HAD REASON TO BELIEVE CERTAIN PIECES WOULD BE PUT INTO
CERTAIN PIECES WOULD BE PUT INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE JUST WEREN’T SURE WHEN THAT
WE JUST WEREN’T SURE WHEN THAT WOULD BE, AND WE HAD NO IDEA
WOULD BE, AND WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD BE.
WHAT IT WOULD BE. >> IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE
>> IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE REAT LEASTED PUBLICLY -- SOME
REAT LEASTED PUBLICLY -- SOME WAS HELD BACK, BUT IN TERMS OF
WAS HELD BACK, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN PUBLICLY, DOES
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN PUBLICLY, DOES IT ALL LOOK AUTHENTIC?
IT ALL LOOK AUTHENTIC? DOES ANY OF IT SEEM DOCTORED?
DOES ANY OF IT SEEM DOCTORED? IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU HANDED
IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU HANDED OVER.
OVER. >> YES.
>> YES. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> ARE YOU STILL PUTTING
>> ARE YOU STILL PUTTING TOGETHER MORE INFORMATION TO
TOGETHER MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE TO CONGRESS, OR DO YOU FEEL
GIVE TO CONGRESS, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE DEADLINE HAS PASSED?
LIKE THE DEADLINE HAS PASSED? >> WE’LL CONTINUE MAKING
>> WE’LL CONTINUE MAKING PRODUCTIONS, AS WE GET MATERIALS
PRODUCTIONS, AS WE GET MATERIALS FROM SOUTHERN DISTRICT AND
FROM SOUTHERN DISTRICT AND ANYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY FIND ON
ANYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY FIND ON OUR OWN, THROUGH THE CLOUD OR
OUR OWN, THROUGH THE CLOUD OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WE’LL
WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WE’LL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE THINGS UNTIL
CONTINUE TO PRODUCE THINGS UNTIL WE’RE TOLD NOT TO.
WE’RE TOLD NOT TO. >> MR. PARNAS, WHY DO YOU WANT
>> MR. PARNAS, WHY DO YOU WANT TO TESTIFIED?
TO TESTIFIED? >> I WANT TO GET THE TRUTH OUT.
>> I WANT TO GET THE TRUTH OUT. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THE
I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR ME.
I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR ME. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THE
I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THE WORLD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
WORLD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TRANSPIRED, BECAUSE THERE’S A
TRANSPIRED, BECAUSE THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING
LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE.
SAID THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ACCURATE.
THEY ARE ACCURATE. THINGS HAPPENED THAT NEED TO GET
THINGS HAPPENED THAT NEED TO GET OUT, AND I THINK THE WORLD NEEDS
OUT, AND I THINK THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW.
TO KNOW. >>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE
>>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MAIN INACCURACY OR MAIN LIE
MAIN INACCURACY OR MAIN LIE THAT’S BEING TOLD THAT YOU FEEL
THAT’S BEING TOLD THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN CORRECT.
LIKE YOU CAN CORRECT. >> THAT THE PRESIDENT DID KNOW
>> THAT THE PRESIDENT DID KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WHAT WAS GOING ON. PRESIDENT TRUMP KNEW EXACTLY
PRESIDENT TRUMP KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE WAS AWARE OF ALL MY
HE WAS AWARE OF ALL MY MOVEMENTS.
MOVEMENTS. I WOULDN’T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT
I WOULDN’T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF RUDY GIULIANI OR
THE CONSENT OF RUDY GIULIANI OR THE PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT. I HAVE NO INTENT, NO REASON TO
I HAVE NO INTENT, NO REASON TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THESE OFFICIALS.
SPEAK TO ANY OF THESE OFFICIALS. THEY HAVE NO REASON TO SPEAK TO
THEY HAVE NO REASON TO SPEAK TO ME.
ME. WHY WOULD PRESIDENTS ZELENSKY
WHY WOULD PRESIDENTS ZELENSKY INNER CIRCLE OR MINISTER -- OR
INNER CIRCLE OR MINISTER -- OR PRESIDENT POROSHENKO MEET WITH
PRESIDENT POROSHENKO MEET WITH ME.
ME. WHO AM I?
WHO AM I? THEY WERE TOLD TO MEET WITH ME.
THEY WERE TOLD TO MEET WITH ME. THAT’S THE SECRET THEY WERE
THAT’S THE SECRET THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP.
TRYING TO KEEP. I WAS ON THE GROUND DOING THEIR
I WAS ON THE GROUND DOING THEIR WORK.
WORK. >>> IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT
>>> IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT AND WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT YOU,
AND WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT YOU, HE SAID ABOUT YOU AND FROM IGOR
HE SAID ABOUT YOU AND FROM IGOR FRUMEN, I DON’T KNOW THOSE
FRUMEN, I DON’T KNOW THOSE GENTLEMEN, NO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
GENTLEMEN, NO KNOW WHAT THEY DO. YOU’RE SAYING THAT WAS NOT A
YOU’RE SAYING THAT WAS NOT A TRUE STATEMENT?
TRUE STATEMENT? >> HE LIED.
>> HE LIED. WHEN YOU SAY FRIENDS, ME AND HIM
WHEN YOU SAY FRIENDS, ME AND HIM DIDN’T EAT HOT DOGS TOGETHER.
DIDN’T EAT HOT DOGS TOGETHER. I INTERACTED WITH HIM AS A LOT
I INTERACTED WITH HIM AS A LOT OF EVENTS.
OF EVENTS. WE HAD ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS
WE HAD ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS AT ROUNDTABLES.
AT ROUNDTABLES. BASICALLY I WAS -- FOROUR FIVE
BASICALLY I WAS -- FOROUR FIVE DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK I WAS IN
DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK I WAS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH HIM.
CONSTANT CONTACT WITH HIM. I WAS WITH RUDY WHEN HE WOULD
I WAS WITH RUDY WHEN HE WOULD SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENT, PLENTY
SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENT, PLENTY OF TIMES.
OF TIMES. I MEAN, SO IT’S JUST LUDICROUSEW
I MEAN, SO IT’S JUST LUDICROUSEW >> HOW DID YOU KNOW RUDY WAS ON
>> HOW DID YOU KNOW RUDY WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE PRESIDENT?
THE PHONE WITH THE PRESIDENT? WAS IT ON SPEAKERPHONE?
WAS IT ON SPEAKERPHONE? >> IT WOULD BE SEVER TIMES ON
>> IT WOULD BE SEVER TIMES ON SPEAKERPHONE.
SPEAKERPHONE. HE WOULD START THE CONVERSATION,
HE WOULD START THE CONVERSATION, TAKE IT OFF, AND THEN GO
TAKE IT OFF, AND THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO TALK TO HIM.
SOMEWHERE ELSE TO TALK TO HIM. A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS ON THE
A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS ON THE GOLF COURSE WHEN WE WERE GOLFING
GOLF COURSE WHEN WE WERE GOLFING TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. I ESPECIALLY REMEMBER DURING THE
I ESPECIALLY REMEMBER DURING THE MUELLER TIME THAT RUDY SAID
MUELLER TIME THAT RUDY SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKING OUT OF
SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKING OUT OF CONTEXT AND HE WAS CREAMING AT
CONTEXT AND HE WAS CREAMING AT HIM SO LOUD.
HIM SO LOUD. THAT’S WHEN I WATCHED THE
THAT’S WHEN I WATCHED THE TESTIMONY, I COULD UNDERSTAND
TESTIMONY, I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN’T HEAR PRESIDENT
THAT YOU CAN’T HEAR PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKING TO -- LIKE I HEARD
TRUMP TALKING TO -- LIKE I HEARD HIM SEVERAL TIMES WHEN HE WAS
HIM SEVERAL TIMES WHEN HE WAS WITH RUDY.
WITH RUDY. >> BECAUSE HE SPEAKS LOUDLY ON
>> BECAUSE HE SPEAKS LOUDLY ON THE PHONE?
THE PHONE? >> VERY LOUDLY.
>> VERY LOUDLY. >>> WHEN YOU SAY THE PRESIDENT
>>> WHEN YOU SAY THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT YOUR MOVEMENTS AND
KNEW ABOUT YOUR MOVEMENTS AND WHAT YOU WERE DOING, ARE YOU
WHAT YOU WERE DOING, ARE YOU SAYING SPECIFICALLY, AND I WANT
SAYING SPECIFICALLY, AND I WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT, THAT THE
TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT, THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS AWARE YOU AND MR.
PRESIDENT WAS AWARE YOU AND MR. GIULIANI WERE WORKING ON THIS
GIULIANI WERE WORKING ON THIS EFFORT IN UKRAINE TO BASICALLY
EFFORT IN UKRAINE TO BASICALLY HURT JOE BIDEN’S POLITICAL
HURT JOE BIDEN’S POLITICAL CAREER?
CAREER? HE KNEW THAT?
HE KNEW THAT? >> IT WAS ALL ABOUT JOE BIDEN,
>> IT WAS ALL ABOUT JOE BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN, AND RUDY HAD A
HUNTER BIDEN, AND RUDY HAD A PERSONAL THING WITH THE MANAFORT
PERSONAL THING WITH THE MANAFORT STUFF, THE BLACK LEDGER.
STUFF, THE BLACK LEDGER. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THEY WERE
THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THEY WERE LOOKING INTO, BUT IT WAS NEVER
LOOKING INTO, BUT IT WAS NEVER ABOUT CORRUPTION.
ABOUT CORRUPTION. IT WAS IT STRICTLY ABOUT BURRIS
IT WAS IT STRICTLY ABOUT BURRIS MA, WHICH INCLUDED HUNTER BIDEN
MA, WHICH INCLUDED HUNTER BIDEN AND JOE BIDEN.
AND JOE BIDEN. >>> STRICTLY ABOUT JOE BIDEN,
>>> STRICTLY ABOUT JOE BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN.
HUNTER BIDEN. >>> IN TERMS OF THE INVOLVEMENT,
>>> IN TERMS OF THE INVOLVEMENT, MR. PARNAS WENT OUT TO ASSERT
MR. PARNAS WENT OUT TO ASSERT THAT NOT ONLY WAS PRESIDENT
THAT NOT ONLY WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP AWARE OF WHAT HE AND MR.
TRUMP AWARE OF WHAT HE AND MR. GIULIANI WERE DOING ON HIS
GIULIANI WERE DOING ON HIS BEHALF IN UKRAINE, TRY TO SAY
BEHALF IN UKRAINE, TRY TO SAY GIN UP THIS INVESTIGATION TO
GIN UP THIS INVESTIGATION TO HURT JOE BIDEN, MR. PARNAS SAYS
HURT JOE BIDEN, MR. PARNAS SAYS THAT THE FACT THAT HE WAS
THAT THE FACT THAT HE WAS WORKING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A
WORKING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A POINT THAT WAS MADE EXPLICITLY
POINT THAT WAS MADE EXPLICITLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN A VERY
OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN A VERY FORMAL WAY, IN HIS DEALINGS IN
FORMAL WAY, IN HIS DEALINGS IN HIS MEETINGS IN UKRAINE.
HIS MEETINGS IN UKRAINE. YOUR ATTORNEY TOLD THE FEDERAL
YOUR ATTORNEY TOLD THE FEDERAL COURT IN NEW YORK THAT YOU WERE
COURT IN NEW YORK THAT YOU WERE BOTH RUDY GIULIANI’S CLIENTS AND
BOTH RUDY GIULIANI’S CLIENTS AND YOU WERE WORKING FOR MR.
YOU WERE WORKING FOR MR. GIULIANI IN HIS CAPACITY AS
GIULIANI IN HIS CAPACITY AS PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO THE
PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> WHICH, BY THE WAY THE
>> WHICH, BY THE WAY THE TRANSTIFF PROPERTY, MAKES IT
TRANSTIFF PROPERTY, MAKES IT SEEM LIKE UMP WORKING FOR THE
SEEM LIKE UMP WORKING FOR THE PRESIDENT AS PART OF THIS LEGAL
PRESIDENT AS PART OF THIS LEGAL DEFENSE.
DEFENSE. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> DID ANYBODY IN THE U.S.
>> DID ANYBODY IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OR RUDY GIULIANI
GOVERNMENT OR RUDY GIULIANI ACTUALLY CONVEYED TO UKRAINE
ACTUALLY CONVEYED TO UKRAINE OFFICIALS THAT YOU WERE THERE AS
OFFICIALS THAT YOU WERE THERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE?
A REPRESENTATIVE? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. TO EACH OFFICIAL, I PUT RUDY ON
TO EACH OFFICIAL, I PUT RUDY ON THE PHONE WITH THE MINUTE TERSE
THE PHONE WITH THE MINUTE TERSE SEVERAL TIMES.
SEVERAL TIMES. EVAN, YURI LUTSENKO TEST TIME,
EVAN, YURI LUTSENKO TEST TIME, THE TEERNG.
THE TEERNG. FIRST I SAID I’M HERE ON BEHALF
FIRST I SAID I’M HERE ON BEHALF OF RUDY GIULIANI AND THE
OF RUDY GIULIANI AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT ON
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT ON YOU SPEAKERPHONE TO CONFIRM HIM.
YOU SPEAKERPHONE TO CONFIRM HIM. RUDY CONFIRMED BASICALLY THAT WE
RUDY CONFIRMED BASICALLY THAT WE WERE THERE ON BEHALF OF THE
WERE THERE ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> THAT YOU WERE THERE TO SPEAK
>> THAT YOU WERE THERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> YES, THOSE EXACT RECORDS.
>> YES, THOSE EXACT RECORDS. >>> WHEN HE WEIGHING TAKING
>>> WHEN HE WEIGHING TAKING MEETINGS TO ADVANCE THIS SCHEME,
MEETINGS TO ADVANCE THIS SCHEME, TAKING MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS
TAKING MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IN UKRAINE,
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IN UKRAINE, HE SAID IT WAS A REGULAR
HE SAID IT WAS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE, THE WAY THE MEETINGS
OCCURRENCE, THE WAY THE MEETINGS STARTED.
STARTED. HE WOULD PUT RUDY GIULIANI ON
HE WOULD PUT RUDY GIULIANI ON PHONE, ON THE SPEAKERPHONE IN
PHONE, ON THE SPEAKERPHONE IN THE ROOM, AND HE WOULD SAY
THE ROOM, AND HE WOULD SAY EXPLICITLY, MR. GIULIANI WOULD
EXPLICITLY, MR. GIULIANI WOULD SAY EXPLICITLY THAT AS THE
SAY EXPLICITLY THAT AS THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY
PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY THAT THEY WOULD AFFIRM THAT LEV
THAT THEY WOULD AFFIRM THAT LEV PARNAS WAS AT THAT MEETING TO
PARNAS WAS AT THAT MEETING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. >>> IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, MAY OF
>>> IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, MAY OF 2019, MR. GIULIANI STARTED
2019, MR. GIULIANI STARTED SPEAKING WITH REPORTERS ABOUT
SPEAKING WITH REPORTERS ABOUT HIS PLANS TO TRAVEL HIM VERY
HIS PLANS TO TRAVEL HIM VERY MUCH TO UKRAINE TO TRY TO ENLIST
MUCH TO UKRAINE TO TRY TO ENLIST THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT’S
THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT’S ASSISTANCE TO HELP TO TRY TO GET
ASSISTANCE TO HELP TO TRY TO GET THEM TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS
THEM TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS INTO VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN,
INTO VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HIS CLIENT.
HELPFUL TO HIS CLIENT. THE RESULTING FIRESTORM OF
THE RESULTING FIRESTORM OF CRITICISM, MR. GIULIANI’S TRIP
CRITICISM, MR. GIULIANI’S TRIP WAS CALLED OFF IN MAY.
WAS CALLED OFF IN MAY. WHEN HE CALLED OFF THE TRIP, MR.
WHEN HE CALLED OFF THE TRIP, MR. GIULIANI MADE PUBLIC STATEMENTS
GIULIANI MADE PUBLIC STATEMENTS CRITICIZING THE NEW GOVERNMENT
CRITICIZING THE NEW GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE, SAYING THE NEW
OF UKRAINE, SAYING THE NEW PRESIDENT WAS SURROUNDED BY
PRESIDENT WAS SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES.
ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES. FOR UKRAINE, THAT WAS A REALLY
FOR UKRAINE, THAT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
BIG DEAL. ALL RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT? UKRAINE IS AT WAR WITH RUSSIA, A
UKRAINE IS AT WAR WITH RUSSIA, A COUNTRY VERY DEPENDENT ON BOTH
COUNTRY VERY DEPENDENT ON BOTH OF REALITY AND PERCEPTION OF
OF REALITY AND PERCEPTION OF THEM HAVING STRONG SUPPORT FROM
THEM HAVING STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. SO WHEN MR. GIULIANI, AS THE
SO WHEN MR. GIULIANI, AS THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY,
PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY, MADE PUBLIC CLAISMS THAT THE NEW
MADE PUBLIC CLAISMS THAT THE NEW UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT WAS
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT WAS SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES OF THE
SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THAT’S WHY HE WASN’T GOING, AT
THAT’S WHY HE WASN’T GOING, AT THAT POINT THE UKRAINIAN
THAT POINT THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT KIND OF FREAKED OUT.
GOVERNMENT KIND OF FREAKED OUT. THAT KIND 6 KIND OF
THAT KIND 6 KIND OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR NEW
ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR NEW PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE, THAT’S A
PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE, THAT’S A POTENTIAL DEATH SENTENCE FOR
POTENTIAL DEATH SENTENCE FOR THEIR COUNTRY.
THEIR COUNTRY. AT THE TIME THAT HAPPENED, LEV
AT THE TIME THAT HAPPENED, LEV PARNAS WAS IN UKRAINE, HE WITH
PARNAS WAS IN UKRAINE, HE WITH US IN KIEV AT THE TIME, AND HE
US IN KIEV AT THE TIME, AND HE TOLD ME TODAY HE WAS TASKED BY
TOLD ME TODAY HE WAS TASKED BY RUDY GIULIANI IN THAT MOMENT TO
RUDY GIULIANI IN THAT MOMENT TO CRANK UP THE PRESSURE OF
CRANK UP THE PRESSURE OF UKRAINE, TO MIGHT BE MORE
UKRAINE, TO MIGHT BE MORE INSISTS AREN’T, MORE OFTEN, EVEN
INSISTS AREN’T, MORE OFTEN, EVEN MORE ONEROUS, THIS THREAT AND
MORE ONEROUS, THIS THREAT AND DEMAND THAT UKRAINE MUST
DEMAND THAT UKRAINE MUST ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS INTO JOE
ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS INTO JOE BIDEN OR ELSE.
BIDEN OR ELSE. DID YOU MEET WITH THE SERGEI
DID YOU MEET WITH THE SERGEI SHAFFER?
SHAFFER? >> I DID.
>> I DID. >>> HE’S A SENIOR AIDE TO
>>> HE’S A SENIOR AIDE TO PRESIDENT CENK UYGUR.
PRESIDENT CENK UYGUR. IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT YOU
IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT YOU CONVEYED TO MR. SHAFFER THE
CONVEYED TO MR. SHAFFER THE EXACT QUID PRO QUO, YOU WANTED
EXACT QUID PRO QUO, YOU WANTED ZELENSKY TO ANNOUNCE
ZELENSKY TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS INTO BIDEN OR
INVESTIGATIONS INTO BIDEN OR SELLS MILITARY AID WOULD NOT BE
SELLS MILITARY AID WOULD NOT BE RELEASED.
RELEASED. IS THAT ACCURATE?
IS THAT ACCURATE? >> IT WAS MORE THAN THAT.
>> IT WAS MORE THAN THAT. BASICALLY THE MESSAGE I GAVE
BASICALLY THE MESSAGE I GAVE SERGEI SHAFFER, I WAS TOLD TO
SERGEI SHAFFER, I WAS TOLD TO GIVE IT TO HIM IN A HARSH WAY.
GIVE IT TO HIM IN A HARSH WAY. >> WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
>> WHO TOLD YOU THAT? >> MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI TOLD ME
>> MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI TOLD ME AFTER, YOU KNOW MEETING WITH THE
AFTER, YOU KNOW MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT AT THE WHITE HOUSE,
PRESIDENT AT THE WHITE HOUSE, THE MESSAGE WAS IT WASN’T JUST
THE MESSAGE WAS IT WASN’T JUST MILITARY AID, IT WAS ALL AID.
MILITARY AID, IT WAS ALL AID. BASICALLY THEIR RELATIONSHIPS
BASICALLY THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WOULD BE SOUR, THAT WE WOULD
WOULD BE SOUR, THAT WE WOULD STOP GIVING THEM ANY KIND OF
STOP GIVING THEM ANY KIND OF AID --
AID -- >> UNLESS?
>> UNLESS? >> -- UNLESS -- THERE WERE
>> -- UNLESS -- THERE WERE SEVERAL DEMANDS AT THAT POINT.
SEVERAL DEMANDS AT THAT POINT. A, THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS THE
A, THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE BIDEN
ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE BIDEN INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. >> DID YOU ALSO CONVEY TO HIM
>> DID YOU ALSO CONVEY TO HIM THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD
THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD STOP SHOWING SUPPORT FOR MR.
STOP SHOWING SUPPORT FOR MR. ZELENSKY, THAT THEY WOULDN’T
ZELENSKY, THAT THEY WOULDN’T ATTEND THE INAUGURATION?
ATTEND THE INAUGURATION? >> THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING,
>> THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING, ACTUALLY, THE MAIN -- BECAUSE AT
ACTUALLY, THE MAIN -- BECAUSE AT THAT TIME YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT TIME YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY UKRAINE IS.
THE WAY UKRAINE IS. FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WINNING
FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WINNING ON THAT PLATFORM, BECOME A YOUNG
ON THAT PLATFORM, BECOME A YOUNG PRESIDENT, NOT HAVING REALLY ANY
PRESIDENT, NOT HAVING REALLY ANY EXPERIENCE AND BEING AT WART
EXPERIENCE AND BEING AT WART WITH RUSSIA AT THE TIME, THE
WITH RUSSIA AT THE TIME, THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS NOT EVEN
NUMBER ONE THING WAS NOT EVEN AID, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY,
AID, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT MORE SUPPORT FROM THE
BUT MORE SUPPORT FROM THE PRESIDENT, BY HAVING A WHITE
PRESIDENT, BY HAVING A WHITE HOUSE VISIT, BY HAVING A BIG
HOUSE VISIT, BY HAVING A BIG INAUGURATION, BY HAVING THE
INAUGURATION, BY HAVING THE DIGNITARIES THERE.
DIGNITARIES THERE. THAT WAS THE KEY.
THAT WAS THE KEY. AT THAT TIME THEY WERE ALREADY
AT THAT TIME THEY WERE ALREADY AWARE BECAUSE OF THEIR
AWARE BECAUSE OF THEIR CONVERSATIONS I HAD GUESS WITH
CONVERSATIONS I HAD GUESS WITH THE EMBASSY THAT -- VICE
THE EMBASSY THAT -- VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO
PRESIDENT PENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME TO THE INAUGURATION.
COME TO THE INAUGURATION. THEY WERE PLANNING IT OUT,
THEY WERE PLANNING IT OUT, WORKING ON DAYS THAT WOULD BE
WORKING ON DAYS THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR HIM.
GOOD FOR HIM. AT OUR MEETING, I WAS VERY, VERY
AT OUR MEETING, I WAS VERY, VERY STERN.
STERN. IT WAS A HEATED CONVERSATION
IT WAS A HEATED CONVERSATION FROM OUR PART TO HIM, BASICALLY
FROM OUR PART TO HIM, BASICALLY TELLING HIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE
TELLING HIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, I MEAN, BASICALLY ME.
DONE, I MEAN, BASICALLY ME. IN THE CONVERSATION, I TOLD HIM
IN THE CONVERSATION, I TOLD HIM THAT IF HE DOESN’T -- THE
THAT IF HE DOESN’T -- THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS THE KEY AT THAT
ANNOUNCEMENT WAS THE KEY AT THAT TIME BECAUSE OF THE
TIME BECAUSE OF THE INAUGURATION, THAT PENCE WOULD
INAUGURATION, THAT PENCE WOULD NOT SHOW UP.
NOT SHOW UP. NOBODY WOULD SHOW UP TO THE
NOBODY WOULD SHOW UP TO THE INAUGURATION.
INAUGURATION. >> UNLESS HE ANNOUNCED AN
>> UNLESS HE ANNOUNCED AN INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN, NO
INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN, NO U.S. OFFICIAL, PARTICULARLY VICE
U.S. OFFICIAL, PARTICULARLY VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WOULD NOT COME.
PRESIDENT PENCE WOULD NOT COME. >> PARTICULARLY VICE PRESIDENT.
>> PARTICULARLY VICE PRESIDENT. >> THE DAVID --
>> THE DAVID -- >> IT WAS A SUNDAY THE 12th.
>> IT WAS A SUNDAY THE 12th. >> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE FOLLOWING DAY THAT IN FACT VICE
FOLLOWING DAY THAT IN FACT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE’S VISIT TO THE
PRESIDENT PENCE’S VISIT TO THE INAUGURATION WAS CANCELED.
INAUGURATION WAS CANCELED. >> IT WAS AFTER MY PHONE CALL.
>> IT WAS AFTER MY PHONE CALL. THE CONVERSATION I LAID OUT WAS
THE CONVERSATION I LAID OUT WAS BASICALLY WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO
BASICALLY WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO BY GIULIANI AND THE PRESIDENT.
BY GIULIANI AND THE PRESIDENT. AFTERWARDS I RELAYED BACK THAT
AFTERWARDS I RELAYED BACK THAT HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME LATER
HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME LATER THAT NIGHT AND WE’RE SUPPOSED TO
THAT NIGHT AND WE’RE SUPPOSED TO MEET.
MEET. 8:00, 9:00 THAT NIGHT I SAID ANY
8:00, 9:00 THAT NIGHT I SAID ANY WORD?
WORD? ANY SITUATION?
ANY SITUATION? AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN A PERSON
AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN A PERSON DISCONNECTS YOU.
DISCONNECTS YOU. >> HE BLOCKED YOU?
>> HE BLOCKED YOU? >> HE BLOCKED ME.
>> HE BLOCKED ME. I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS A NO.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS A NO. I CALLED BACK AND SAID NO-GO,
I CALLED BACK AND SAID NO-GO, AND I REMEMBER RUDY GOING, OKAY,
AND I REMEMBER RUDY GOING, OKAY, THEY’LL SEE.
THEY’LL SEE. BASICALLY THE NEXT DAY PENCE, TO
BASICALLY THE NEXT DAY PENCE, TO MY AWARENESS TRUMP CALLED UP AND
MY AWARENESS TRUMP CALLED UP AND SAID MAKE SURE PENCE DOESN’T GO
SAID MAKE SURE PENCE DOESN’T GO THERE.
THERE. >> YOU BELIEVE MR. PENCE’S TRIP
>> YOU BELIEVE MR. PENCE’S TRIP TO THE INAUGURATION WAS CANCELED
TO THE INAUGURATION WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T AGREE --
BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T AGREE -- >> I KNOW.
>> I KNOW. IT WAS 100%.
IT WAS 100%. THE CHAIN OF EVENTS, THAT WAS
THE CHAIN OF EVENTS, THAT WAS KEY TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
KEY TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AFTER THAT, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT
AFTER THAT, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT TRANSPIRES.
TRANSPIRES. NEXT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE
NEXT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, THEY REALIZE THAT NOW THEY
DAYS, THEY REALIZE THAT NOW THEY GET WORD.
GET WORD. OBVIOUSLY WHEN PENCE CANS ALSO,
OBVIOUSLY WHEN PENCE CANS ALSO, THEY GET WORD.
THEY GET WORD. SO NOW THEY REALIZED WHAT I WAS
SO NOW THEY REALIZED WHAT I WAS WAS COMING WAS TRUSS.
WAS COMING WAS TRUSS. >> NOW THEY REALIZE THAT IF THEY
>> NOW THEY REALIZE THAT IF THEY DIDN’T ANNOUNCE THE BIDEN
DIDN’T ANNOUNCE THE BIDEN INVESTIGATION THAT VICE
INVESTIGATION THAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WOULDN’T COME TO
PRESIDENT PENCE WOULDN’T COME TO THE INAUGURATION, THEY REALIZE
THE INAUGURATION, THEY REALIZE NOW WHEN IN FACT PENCE CANCELED
NOW WHEN IN FACT PENCE CANCELED HIS INAUGURATION, THEY KNEW I
HIS INAUGURATION, THEY KNEW I WAS LEGIT.
WAS LEGIT. THAT’S ESSENTIAL WHAT HE’S
THAT’S ESSENTIAL WHAT HE’S SAYING.
SAYING. I LOVE HIS LINE THAT RUDY
I LOVE HIS LINE THAT RUDY GIULIANI SAYS, OKAY, THEY’LL
GIULIANI SAYS, OKAY, THEY’LL SEE.
SEE. IN FACT, THE VICE PRESIDENT
IN FACT, THE VICE PRESIDENT PENCE DOES CANCEL HIS TRIP TO
PENCE DOES CANCEL HIS TRIP TO THE INAUGURATION WITHIN 24
THE INAUGURATION WITHIN 24 HOURS.
HOURS. BUT FOR MR. PARNAS, THAT WAS A
BUT FOR MR. PARNAS, THAT WAS A KEY MOMENT FOR HIM IN TERMS OF
KEY MOMENT FOR HIM IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK
BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS EFFORT IN UKRAINE WITH
ON THIS EFFORT IN UKRAINE WITH CREDIBILITY, BECAUSE MIKE PENCE
CREDIBILITY, BECAUSE MIKE PENCE CANCELLING HIS TRIP TO THE
CANCELLING HIS TRIP TO THE INAUGURATION WAS A VALIDATING
INAUGURATION WAS A VALIDATING MOMENT.
MOMENT. IT MADE CLEAR TO THE GOVERNMENT
IT MADE CLEAR TO THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL,
OF UKRAINE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, A SENIOR AIDE TO THE NEW
A SENIOR AIDE TO THE NEW PRESIDENT, THIS MADE IT CLEAR
PRESIDENT, THIS MADE IT CLEAR THAT LEV PARNAS WAS LEGITIMATELY
THAT LEV PARNAS WAS LEGITIMATELY REPRESENTING THE PRESIDENT OF
REPRESENTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WHITE
THE UNITED STATES AND THE WHITE HOUSE IN THIS SHAKEDOWN.
HOUSE IN THIS SHAKEDOWN. >>> SO VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE
>>> SO VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE HAS HIS PLANNED TRIP TO THE
HAS HIS PLANNED TRIP TO THE INAUGURATION CANCELED AFTER YOU
INAUGURATION CANCELED AFTER YOU WERE UNABLE TO GET THE UKRAINIAN
WERE UNABLE TO GET THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT TO ANNOUNCE
GOVERNMENT TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATIONS INTO VICE
INVESTIGATIONS INTO VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN.
PRESIDENT BIDEN. DO YOU KNOW IF VICE PRESIDENT
DO YOU KNOW IF VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WAS AWARE THAT WAS THE
PENCE WAS AWARE THAT WAS THE QUID PRO QUO, AND IN FACT WHY
QUID PRO QUO, AND IN FACT WHY HIS TRIP WAS GOING TO BE PULL
HIS TRIP WAS GOING TO BE PULL OFF.
OFF. >>> I’M GOING TO USE A QUOTE BY
>>> I’M GOING TO USE A QUOTE BY SONDLAND -- EVERYBODY KNEW.
SONDLAND -- EVERYBODY KNEW. >> EVERYBODY KNEW THAT WAS
>> EVERYBODY KNEW THAT WAS CONTINGENT ON THE INVESTIGATIONS
CONTINGENT ON THE INVESTIGATIONS BEING ANNOUNCED?
BEING ANNOUNCED? >> I KNOW HE WE AREN’T TO POLAND
>> I KNOW HE WE AREN’T TO POLAND ALSO TO DISCUSS THIS ON TRUMP’S
ALSO TO DISCUSS THIS ON TRUMP’S BEHAVE.
BEHAVE. HE COULDN’T HAVE NOT KNOWN.
HE COULDN’T HAVE NOT KNOWN. >>> AFTER THE INAUGURATION,
>>> AFTER THE INAUGURATION, SEPTEMBER 1st, VICE PRESIDENT
SEPTEMBER 1st, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE GOES TO POLAND AND TAKES A
PENCE GOES TO POLAND AND TAKES A MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OF UKRAINE.
OF UKRAINE. ONE OF THE UNUSUAL REVELATIONS
ONE OF THE UNUSUAL REVELATIONS WE’VE HAD SINCE THE IMPEACHMENT
WE’VE HAD SINCE THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATIONS WAS A DEFENSE
INVESTIGATIONS WAS A DEFENSE DEPARTMENT E-MAIL THAT WAS MADE
DEPARTMENT E-MAIL THAT WAS MADE PUBLIC THROUGH A FREEDOM OF
PUBLIC THROUGH A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT LAWYER, THAT
INFORMATION ACT LAWYER, THAT DEFENSE DEPARTMENT FROM THE
DEFENSE DEPARTMENT FROM THE CHIEF OF STAT TO -- HE TELL
CHIEF OF STAT TO -- HE TELL SOMEONE ELSE DON’T -- I’M
SOMEONE ELSE DON’T -- I’M PARAPHRASING -- THIS UKRAINE AID
PARAPHRASING -- THIS UKRAINE AID PROBLEM IS GOING TO ALL BY
PROBLEM IS GOING TO ALL BY SORTED AS SOON AS VICE PRESIDENT
SORTED AS SOON AS VICE PRESIDENT PENCE MEEKS PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
PENCE MEEKS PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN POLAND.
IN POLAND. >> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY
>> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY IN THE SECRETARY OF
SOMEBODY IN THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE’S OFFICE MIGHT HAVE
DEFENSE’S OFFICE MIGHT HAVE BELIEVED THAT?
BELIEVED THAT? >> IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
>> IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. WHAT WAS TRANSPIRING IS EVERY
WHAT WAS TRANSPIRING IS EVERY TIME, LIKE I SAID TO YOU, AT
TIME, LIKE I SAID TO YOU, AT EVERY MEETING EITHER GIULIANI OR
EVERY MEETING EITHER GIULIANI OR I WOULD HAVE, OR GOVERNMENT WOUL
I WOULD HAVE, OR GOVERNMENT WOUL HAVE WITH THE UKRAINIANS, THEY
HAVE WITH THE UKRAINIANS, THEY WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT THEY WERE
WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE SOME SORT OF --
GOING TO MAKE SOME SORT OF -- THAT THEY WERE ON BOARD, THEY’LL
THAT THEY WERE ON BOARD, THEY’LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THEN
MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THEN THEY WOULD WALK IT BACK.
THEY WOULD WALK IT BACK. AFTER CERTAIN INSTANCES
AFTER CERTAIN INSTANCES PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS SUPPOSED TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET ZELENSKY IN POLAND HIMSELF.
MEET ZELENSKY IN POLAND HIMSELF. BUT THEY HE USED THE EXECUTION
BUT THEY HE USED THE EXECUTION OF THE HURRICANE.
OF THE HURRICANE. IT WASN’T BECAUSE OF THE
IT WASN’T BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE.
HURRICANE. IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS ANGRY THAT
IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS ANGRY THAT ZELENSKY STILL DIDN’T MAKE ANY
ZELENSKY STILL DIDN’T MAKE ANY TEEM OR EFFORT TO MAKE ANY
TEEM OR EFFORT TO MAKE ANY ANNOUNCEMENT.
ANNOUNCEMENT. >> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WASN’T
>> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WASN’T AN EXCUSE.
AN EXCUSE. >> I SPOKE TO RUDY.
>> I SPOKE TO RUDY. WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS EVERY DAY.
WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS EVERY DAY. EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON WAS
EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON WAS BETWEEN ME, VICTORIA, RUDY, THE
BETWEEN ME, VICTORIA, RUDY, THE TEAM.
TEAM. >> SO PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
>> SO PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SUPPOSED TO GO, HE DECIDES NOT
SUPPOSED TO GO, HE DECIDES NOT TO GO.
TO GO. >> HE SENDS VICE PRESIDENT
>> HE SENDS VICE PRESIDENT INSTEAD.
INSTEAD. HE’S TO GO THERE AND GET IT
HE’S TO GO THERE AND GET IT STRAIGHTENED OUT THAT ZELENSKY
STRAIGHTENED OUT THAT ZELENSKY WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ANOTHER
WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT.
ANNOUNCEMENT. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. THAT’S WHEN BOLTON, SECRETARY
THAT’S WHEN BOLTON, SECRETARY BOLTON, WENT OVER THERE.
BOLTON, WENT OVER THERE. I THINK HE HAS A LOT TO SAY.
I THINK HE HAS A LOT TO SAY. I THINK HE’S A KEY WITNESS TO
I THINK HE’S A KEY WITNESS TO HIS CONVERSATION WITH ZELENSKY,
HIS CONVERSATION WITH ZELENSKY, AND WHEN HE CAME BACK AND WHY HE
AND WHEN HE CAME BACK AND WHY HE LEFT, GOT FIRED, HOWEVER YOU
LEFT, GOT FIRED, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. >> WHEN VICE PRESIDENT PEN WENT
>> WHEN VICE PRESIDENT PEN WENT OVER THERE SEPTEMBER 1st, IN
OVER THERE SEPTEMBER 1st, IN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S STEAD, YOU
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S STEAD, YOU HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT VICE
HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WAS TASKED AT
PRESIDENT PENCE WAS TASKED AT THAT MEETING WITH GETTING
THAT MEETING WITH GETTING PRESIDENT ZELENSKY TO ANNOUNCE
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN
INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN SPECIFICALLY AND TELL THEM THEY
SPECIFICALLY AND TELL THEM THEY WOULDN’T GET THE AID --
WOULDN’T GET THE AID -- >> I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT
>> I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE AID ITSELF WAS
LIKE I SAID, THE AID ITSELF WAS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE
SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE PRESIDENT DECIDED TO DO --
PRESIDENT DECIDED TO DO -- WHAT’S IT CALLED?
WHAT’S IT CALLED? I THINK IT WAS A REACTION THAT
I THINK IT WAS A REACTION THAT THERE WAS NO ANNOUNCEMENT BEING
THERE WAS NO ANNOUNCEMENT BEING MADE AFTER SO MANY ATTEMPTS AND
MADE AFTER SO MANY ATTEMPTS AND SO MANY PERFORMS.
SO MANY PERFORMS. >> HOLDING THE AID WAS THE
>> HOLDING THE AID WAS THE PRESIDENT’S SORT OF INNOVATION
PRESIDENT’S SORT OF INNOVATION TO ADD TO THE LEVERAGE --
TO ADD TO THE LEVERAGE -- >> I THINK SO.
>> I THINK SO. >>> ADD TO THE PRESSURE THAT
>>> ADD TO THE PRESSURE THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THE VICE
PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THE VICE PRESIDENT, MR. GIULIANI,
PRESIDENT, MR. GIULIANI, EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED WAS
EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED WAS PUTTING ON UKRAINE.
PUTTING ON UKRAINE. >> WHEN YOU SAY MR. BOLTON MAY
>> WHEN YOU SAY MR. BOLTON MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, DID MR.
HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, DID MR. BOLTON KNOW THAT VICE PRESIDENT
BOLTON KNOW THAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO SECURE
PENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO SECURE THAT AGREEMENT?
THAT AGREEMENT? >> I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT I
>> I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT I KNOW MR. BOLTON WAS DEFINITELY
KNOW MR. BOLTON WAS DEFINITELY INVOLVED IN THE LOOP BECAUSE OF
INVOLVED IN THE LOOP BECAUSE OF THES FIRING OF MARIA
THES FIRING OF MARIA YOVANOVITCH.
YOVANOVITCH. AND HE WAS NOT -- THEY STARTED
AND HE WAS NOT -- THEY STARTED BUTTING HEADS, AND FROM BOLTON
BUTTING HEADS, AND FROM BOLTON DID NOT AGREE WITH GIULIANI ON
DID NOT AGREE WITH GIULIANI ON THE WAY OF DEALING WITH IT, SO
THE WAY OF DEALING WITH IT, SO THERE WAS TENSION THERE.
THERE WAS TENSION THERE. THERE WAS DEFINITELY TENSION
THERE WAS DEFINITELY TENSION THERE.
THERE. >> BUT YOU BELIEVE HE KNOWS WHAT
>> BUT YOU BELIEVE HE KNOWS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS
THE ADMINISTRATION WAS PRESSURING UKRAINE TO DO?
PRESSURING UKRAINE TO DO? >> BOLTON?
>> BOLTON? 100%.
100%. HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED THERE. >>> LEV PARNAS IN AN EXCLUSIVE
>>> LEV PARNAS IN AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH ME TODAY IN NEW
INTERVIEW WITH ME TODAY IN NEW YORK CITY.
YORK CITY. WE HAVE CONTACTED VICE PRESIDENT
WE HAVE CONTACTED VICE PRESIDENT PENCE’S OFFICE TONIGHT ON THIS
PENCE’S OFFICE TONIGHT ON THIS ALLEGATION THAT THE VISIT TO THE
ALLEGATION THAT THE VISIT TO THE ZELENSKY INAUGURATION WALLS
ZELENSKY INAUGURATION WALLS CANCELED BECAUSE UKRAINIAN
CANCELED BECAUSE UKRAINIAN OFFICIAL WOULDN’T ANNOUNCE
OFFICIAL WOULDN’T ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN.
INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN. ALSO THE ALLEGATIONS THAT VICE
ALSO THE ALLEGATIONS THAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WAS TASKED BY
PRESIDENT PENCE WAS TASKED BY GETTING THAT COMMITMENT IN HI
GETTING THAT COMMITMENT IN HI FOLLOW-UP VISIT WHEN HE MET WITH
FOLLOW-UP VISIT WHEN HE MET WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN POLAND.
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN POLAND. WE HAVE ASKED FOR COMMENT FROM
WE HAVE ASKED FOR COMMENT FROM MIKE PENCE’S OFFICE ON THOSE
MIKE PENCE’S OFFICE ON THOSE MATTERS.
MATTERS. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. WE’LL LET YOU KNOW IN THAT
WE’LL LET YOU KNOW IN THAT CHANGES.
CHANGES. FOR HI PART, JOHN BOLTON SAID HE
FOR HI PART, JOHN BOLTON SAID HE WOULD TESTIFY TO THE SENATE
WOULD TESTIFY TO THE SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IF SUBPOENAED
IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IF SUBPOENAED TO DO SO.
TO DO SO. HE HAS MADE PUBLIC REMARKS THAT
HE HAS MADE PUBLIC REMARKS THAT HE HAS RELEVANT INFORMATION
HE HAS RELEVANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT
ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION, HE KNOWS THINGS
INVESTIGATION, HE KNOWS THINGS OTHER PEOPLE DON’T KNOW.
OTHER PEOPLE DON’T KNOW. IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT AND
IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT AND THIS ALLEGATIONS PROR -- FROM
THIS ALLEGATIONS PROR -- FROM MR. PARNAS THAT HE GAVE
MR. PARNAS THAT HE GAVE EXCLUSIVE -- THAT MR. GIULIANI
EXCLUSIVE -- THAT MR. GIULIANI EXPLICITLY TOLD UKRAINIAN
EXPLICITLY TOLD UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS, ON THE AUTHORITY OF
OFFICIALS, ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO
STATES, THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO MR. PARNAS, HE WAS QUITING THE
MR. PARNAS, HE WAS QUITING THE FULL THEORY OF LEGAL
FULL THEORY OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION, THAT HE WAS
REPRESENTATION, THAT HE WAS FULLY AWARE OF AND INVOLVED IN
FULLY AWARE OF AND INVOLVED IN ALL HIS EFFORTS, WE HAVE ASKED
ALL HIS EFFORTS, WE HAVE ASKED THE WHITE HOUSE FOR COMMENT ON
THE WHITE HOUSE FOR COMMENT ON MR. PARNAS’S REMARKS, WE HAVE
MR. PARNAS’S REMARKS, WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
NOT HEARD BACK. >>> BUT NEXT HERE COMES THE PART
>>> THERE WERE NOTES RELEASED TO
>>> THERE WERE NOTES RELEASED TO THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE THAT
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE THAT WERE NOT RELEASED PUBLICLY, AND
WERE NOT RELEASED PUBLICLY, AND IF YOU DON’T MIND, I WANT TO ASK
IF YOU DON’T MIND, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOME OF THESE.
YOU ABOUT SOME OF THESE. >> SURE.
>> SURE. >> WERE THESE NOTES THAT YOU
>> WERE THESE NOTES THAT YOU TOOK -- I’LL SHOW THEM TO YOU
TOOK -- I’LL SHOW THEM TO YOU HERE, OBVIOUSLY ON RITZ KARL TON
HERE, OBVIOUSLY ON RITZ KARL TON VIENNA
VIENNA -- CARLTON, WERE THIS IS NOTES
-- CARLTON, WERE THIS IS NOTES FROM A PHONE CONVERSATION?
FROM A PHONE CONVERSATION? >> THIS WAS A PHONE CONVERSATION
>> THIS WAS A PHONE CONVERSATION I WAS HAVING WITH MR. GIULIANI,
I WAS HAVING WITH MR. GIULIANI, BASICALLY DISCUSSING CERTAIN
BASICALLY DISCUSSING CERTAIN THINGS.
THINGS. AFTER THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD
AFTER THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE ZELENSKY TEAM.
SOMEBODY FROM THE ZELENSKY TEAM. >> YOU WERE FROM VIENNA AT THE
>> YOU WERE FROM VIENNA AT THE TIME?
TIME? >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> FIRST NOTE -- GET ZELENSKY TO
>> FIRST NOTE -- GET ZELENSKY TO ANNOUNCE THE BIDEN CASE WILL BE
ANNOUNCE THE BIDEN CASE WILL BE INVESTIGATING.
INVESTIGATING. THAT’S MR. GIULIANI TASKING YOU?
THAT’S MR. GIULIANI TASKING YOU? >> THAT WAS ALWAYS THE MAIN
>> THAT WAS ALWAYS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE.
OBJECTIVE. >>> MAIN OBJECTIVE, GET THEM TO
>>> MAIN OBJECTIVE, GET THEM TO ANNOUNCE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING
ANNOUNCE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN. THAT’S MR. PARNAS SPEAK TO ME
THAT’S MR. PARNAS SPEAK TO ME TODAY IN NEW YORK CITY.
TODAY IN NEW YORK CITY. ONE OF THE DARK HEARTS OF THIS
ONE OF THE DARK HEARTS OF THIS IS THE VIRULENT, SKULL LUTZ Z
IS THE VIRULENT, SKULL LUTZ Z SCURRILOUS EFFORT TO FIRE MARIA
SCURRILOUS EFFORT TO FIRE MARIA YOVANOVITCH.
YOVANOVITCH. HE ALSO MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR WHY
HE ALSO MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR WHY SHE WAS TARGETED.
SHE WAS TARGETED. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PART OF
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE MOTIVATION TO GET HER OUT OF
THE MOTIVATION TO GET HER OUT OF POST IS SHE WAS IN THE WAY OF
POST IS SHE WAS IN THE WAY OF THIS EFFORT TO GET THE
THIS EFFORT TO GET THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE TO
GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE TO ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATION OF JOE
ANNOUNCE INVESTIGATION OF JOE BIDEN?
BIDEN? >> THAT WAS THE ONLY MOTIVATION.
>> THAT WAS THE ONLY MOTIVATION. THERE WAS NO OTHER MOTIVATION.
THERE WAS NO OTHER MOTIVATION. >>> IF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH
>>> IF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH WAS TARGETED BY LEV PARNAS, RUDY
WAS TARGETED BY LEV PARNAS, RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP,
GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP, OTHERS INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT
OTHERS INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT TO GET HER OUT OF POST, TO GET
TO GET HER OUT OF POST, TO GET HER OUT OF WAY OF THE BOG GUS
HER OUT OF WAY OF THE BOG GUS JOE BIDEN INVESTIGATION -- OUR
JOE BIDEN INVESTIGATION -- OUR PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF THAT
PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF THAT CAMPAIGN AGAINST HER TOOK A VERY
CAMPAIGN AGAINST HER TOOK A VERY DARK TURN LAST NIGHT, WHEN
DARK TURN LAST NIGHT, WHEN INFORMATION THAT LEV PARNAS
INFORMATION THAT LEV PARNAS TURNED OVER TO IMPEACHMENT
TURNED OVER TO IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS REVEALED MENACING
INVESTIGATORS REVEALED MENACING TEXT MESSAGES FROM A REPUBLICAN
TEXT MESSAGES FROM A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE NAMED
CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE NAMED ROBERT HYDE, WHO HAPPENED IN
ROBERT HYDE, WHO HAPPENED IN THESE TEXTS TO BE REPORTING IN
THESE TEXTS TO BE REPORTING IN TO LEV PARNAS ABOUT SURVEILLANCE
TO LEV PARNAS ABOUT SURVEILLANCE OF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH,
OF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH, ASKING LEV IF HE WANTED HER OUT
ASKING LEV IF HE WANTED HER OUT AND IF THERE WAS A CONTACT IN
AND IF THERE WAS A CONTACT IN HER SECURITY TEAM.
HER SECURITY TEAM. I ASKED PARNAS ABOUT THAT.
I ASKED PARNAS ABOUT THAT. HE TOLD ME HE DID NOT TAKE
HE TOLD ME HE DID NOT TAKE ROBERT HYDE SERIOUSLY, EITHER IN
ROBERT HYDE SERIOUSLY, EITHER IN GENERAL OR THE MESSAGES.
GENERAL OR THE MESSAGES. HE AGREED THE MESSAGES WERE
HE AGREED THE MESSAGES WERE DISTURBING, BUT HE NEVER
DISTURBING, BUT HE NEVER BELIEVED MR. HYDE’S ASSERTIONS
BELIEVED MR. HYDE’S ASSERTIONS ABOUT THE PURPORTED SURVEILLANCE
ABOUT THE PURPORTED SURVEILLANCE NOR DID HE BELIEVE THAT
NOR DID HE BELIEVE THAT AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH WAS
AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH WAS ACTUALLY IN DANGER.
ACTUALLY IN DANGER. >> WHO IS ROBERT HYDE?
>> WHO IS ROBERT HYDE? >> HE’S A -- HE’S JUST -- I
>> HE’S A -- HE’S JUST -- I DON’T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN HIM.
DON’T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN HIM. >> I CAN BLEEP YOU IF THE NEED
>> I CAN BLEEP YOU IF THE NEED TO SWEAR.
TO SWEAR. >> HE’S A WEIRD CHARACTER.
>> HE’S A WEIRD CHARACTER. HE’S A WEIRD INDIVIDUAL.
HE’S A WEIRD INDIVIDUAL. >> YOU MET HIM WHERE?
>> YOU MET HIM WHERE? >> I THINK AT THE TRUMP HOTEL.
>> I THINK AT THE TRUMP HOTEL. HE WAS A REGULAR AT THE BAR.
HE WAS A REGULAR AT THE BAR. >> SO WE NOW HAVE YOUR TEXT
>> SO WE NOW HAVE YOUR TEXT MESSAGES WITH MR. HYDE THAT GET
MESSAGES WITH MR. HYDE THAT GET INTO SOME DARK TERRITORY WHEN IT
INTO SOME DARK TERRITORY WHEN IT COMES TO AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH.
COMES TO AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH. >> YES.
>> YES. >> IT SEEMS THAT IS SORT OF
>> IT SEEMS THAT IS SORT OF STARTS, AT LEAST WHAT WE’VE GOT
STARTS, AT LEAST WHAT WE’VE GOT YOU TEXTING HIM THAT APPEARS TO
YOU TEXTING HIM THAT APPEARS TO BE ANTI-YOVANOVITCH --
BE ANTI-YOVANOVITCH -- >> ROBERT HYDE IS SOMEBODY WHO
>> ROBERT HYDE IS SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HANG AROUND, BECAUSE HE
WOULD HANG AROUND, BECAUSE HE DID KNOW -- HE DIDN’T KNOW THE
DID KNOW -- HE DIDN’T KNOW THE PRESIDENT, AND HE DIDN’T KNOW
PRESIDENT, AND HE DIDN’T KNOW RUDY GIULIANI, BUT THEY DID KNOW
RUDY GIULIANI, BUT THEY DID KNOW McCARTHY, HE KNEW ROGER STONE,
McCARTHY, HE KNEW ROGER STONE, ALL THEY WILL -- BECAUSE IT WAS
ALL THEY WILL -- BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A BREEDING GROUND AT THE
LIKE A BREEDING GROUND AT THE TRUMP HOTEL.
TRUMP HOTEL. EVERY EVENT WAS THERE, AND
EVERY EVENT WAS THERE, AND EVERYBODY WOULD HANG OUT
EVERYBODY WOULD HANG OUT AFTERWARDS.
AFTERWARDS. SO YOU WOULD SEE THE SAME PEOPLE
SO YOU WOULD SEE THE SAME PEOPLE THE SAME DAY.
THE SAME DAY. SO HE WAS A FIXTURE ON SIGHT.
SO HE WAS A FIXTURE ON SIGHT. HE WAS ALWAYS THERE, BUT HE WAS
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE, BUT HE WAS ALWAYS DRUNK.
ALWAYS DRUNK. >> YOU STRUCK UP A RELATIONSHIP
>> YOU STRUCK UP A RELATIONSHIP ENOUGH TO BE TEXTING HIM.
ENOUGH TO BE TEXTING HIM. >> IT WAS MORE OF IGOR HAD MORE
>> IT WAS MORE OF IGOR HAD MORE RELATION.
RELATION. HE JUST COULDN’T SPEAK WITH
HE JUST COULDN’T SPEAK WITH IGOR, BECAUSE THEY WERE -- THEY
IGOR, BECAUSE THEY WERE -- THEY WERE USUALLY AFTER WE WERE DONE
WERE USUALLY AFTER WE WERE DONE FOR THE NIGHT, THE BAR SCENE WAS
FOR THE NIGHT, THE BAR SCENE WAS HAPPENING, AND I DON’T DRINK, SO
HAPPENING, AND I DON’T DRINK, SO THEY WOULD HANG OUT, HAVE A
THEY WOULD HANG OUT, HAVE A DRINK AT THE BAR.
DRINK AT THE BAR. >> THE TEXT MESSAGES HE SENDS
>> THE TEXT MESSAGES HE SENDS ARE DISTURBING.
ARE DISTURBING. >> VERY.
>> VERY. >> WHAT IS THE CONTEXT OF THESE
>> WHAT IS THE CONTEXT OF THESE TEXT EXCHANGES?
TEXT EXCHANGES? HE APPEARS TO BE GIVING YOU
HE APPEARS TO BE GIVING YOU SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE
SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR’S MOVEMENT, ABOUT HER
AMBASSADOR’S MOVEMENT, ABOUT HER LOCATION, THE SECURITY
LOCATION, THE SECURITY SITUATION, CALLS HER THE B-WORD
SITUATION, CALLS HER THE B-WORD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SEEMS
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SEEMS HOSTILE AND MONITORING HER
HOSTILE AND MONITORING HER WHEREABOUTS.
WHEREABOUTS. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> WHY DID THOSE EXCHANGES
>> WHY DID THOSE EXCHANGES HAPPEN?
HAPPEN? >> I DON’T BELIEVE IT’S TRUE.
>> I DON’T BELIEVE IT’S TRUE. HE WAS EITHER DRUNK OR TRYING TO
HE WAS EITHER DRUNK OR TRYING TO MAKE HIMSELF BIGGER THAN HE WAS,
MAKE HIMSELF BIGGER THAN HE WAS, SO I DIDN’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY,
SO I DIDN’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, AND IF YOU SEE, I DIDN’T RESPOND
AND IF YOU SEE, I DIDN’T RESPOND MOST OF THE TIME.
MOST OF THE TIME. IF I DID IT WAS SOMETHING LOOK
IF I DID IT WAS SOMETHING LOOK LOL, OKAY OR GREAT.
LOL, OKAY OR GREAT. I DIDN’T WANT HIM TO GET ROWDY
I DIDN’T WANT HIM TO GET ROWDY IF I SAW HIM THE NEXT TIME, WHY
IF I SAW HIM THE NEXT TIME, WHY DIDN’T YOU TEXT?
DIDN’T YOU TEXT? EVENTUALLY I CUT HIM OFF.
EVENTUALLY I CUT HIM OFF. I GOT DISTURBED, LIKE, THIS IS
I GOT DISTURBED, LIKE, THIS IS CRAZY.
CRAZY. SO I CALLED UP JOE AHERN, MY
SO I CALLED UP JOE AHERN, MY CONTACT AT THE SUPER-PAC AMERICA
CONTACT AT THE SUPER-PAC AMERICA FIRST, THAT KNEW OF HIM ALSO,
FIRST, THAT KNEW OF HIM ALSO, BECAUSE HE KNEW ALL THE DONORS.
BECAUSE HE KNEW ALL THE DONORS. I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WELL, IS
I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WELL, IS THIS GUY OFF THE LOONIES?
THIS GUY OFF THE LOONIES? HE TOLD ME, STAY AWAY FROM HIM,
HE TOLD ME, STAY AWAY FROM HIM, BECAUSE HE’S GOT INTO SOMETHING
BECAUSE HE’S GOT INTO SOMETHING WITH GREG PENCE, MIKE PENCE’S
WITH GREG PENCE, MIKE PENCE’S BROTHER, THINKING THE SECRET
BROTHER, THINKING THE SECRET SERVICE A AFTER HIM, SOMEBODY
SERVICE A AFTER HIM, SOMEBODY WANTS TO KILL HIM.
WANTS TO KILL HIM. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT
I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT ONCE HE STARTED TEXTING ME THAT,
ONCE HE STARTED TEXTING ME THAT, THAT WAS THE END OF THE
THAT WAS THE END OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
RELATIONSHIP. THE TEXTS WHERE HE WAS
THE TEXTS WHERE HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY REPORTING ON THE
SUPPOSEDLY REPORTING ON THE WHEREABOUTS OF THE AMBASSADOR,
WHEREABOUTS OF THE AMBASSADOR, WAS FOR A WEEK.
WAS FOR A WEEK. HE COULDN’T HAVE BEEN DRUNK THE
HE COULDN’T HAVE BEEN DRUNK THE WHOLE TIME.
WHOLE TIME. >> HE WAS DRUNK THE WHOLE TIME.
>> HE WAS DRUNK THE WHOLE TIME. HE WAKES UP -- HE STARTS AT
HE WAKES UP -- HE STARTS AT 6:00 -- I’VE NEVER SEEN HIM NOT
6:00 -- I’VE NEVER SEEN HIM NOT DRUNK.
DRUNK. >> SO YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS HIM
>> SO YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS HIM MAKING IT UP.
MAKING IT UP. YOU DIDN’T BELIEVE HE HAD THE
YOU DIDN’T BELIEVE HE HAD THE AMBASSADOR UNDER SURVEILLANCE?
AMBASSADOR UNDER SURVEILLANCE? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> I ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES IF
>> I ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES IF THOSE TEXT MESSAGES FROM ROBERT
THOSE TEXT MESSAGES FROM ROBERT HYDE INDICATED A REAL THREAT TO
HYDE INDICATED A REAL THREAT TO AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH.
AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH. I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT WITH AS
I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT WITH AS MANY ANGLES I CAN’T THINK OF,
MANY ANGLES I CAN’T THINK OF, AND HE WAS ADAMANT IN HIS
AND HE WAS ADAMANT IN HIS THOUGHTS.
THOUGHTS. >>> ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHETHER OR
>>> ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS EVER AS ACTUAL
NOT THERE WAS EVER AS ACTUAL PHYSICAL THREAT OR A THREAT OF
PHYSICAL THREAT OR A THREAT OF PERSONAL INTIMIDATION AGAINST
PERSONAL INTIMIDATION AGAINST AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH?
AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH? >> NEVER FROM MY SIDE OR ANYONE
>> NEVER FROM MY SIDE OR ANYONE I KNOW.
I KNOW. >> YOU DIDN’T WORRY SHE WAS
>> YOU DIDN’T WORRY SHE WAS ACTUALLY IN PHYSICAL DANGER.
ACTUALLY IN PHYSICAL DANGER. >> NO, NEVER.
>> NO, NEVER. >> BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T BELIEVE
>> BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T BELIEVE MR. HYDE.
MR. HYDE. >> NO, I DIDN’T BELIEVE MR.
>> NO, I DIDN’T BELIEVE MR. HYDE, NO.
HYDE, NO. >>> WE CONTACTED ATTORNEYS FRO
>>> WE CONTACTED ATTORNEYS FRO AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH TO LET
AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THESE STATEMENTS
THEM KNOW ABOUT THESE STATEMENTS ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE THREAT TO
ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE THREAT TO THEIR CLIENT.
THEIR CLIENT. THEY ARE NOT COMMENTING TONIGHT,
THEY ARE NOT COMMENTING TONIGHT, BUT WE’VE GOT MORE AHEAD,
BUT WE’VE GOT MORE AHEAD, INCLUDING WHAT ENDS UP BEING A
INCLUDING WHAT ENDS UP BEING A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION
VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, WILLIAM BARR.
THE UNITED STATES, WILLIAM BARR. >>> DID RUDY GIULIANI TELL YOU
>>> DID RUDY GIULIANI TELL YOU HE HAD SUPPOSE TO THE ATTORNEY
HE HAD SUPPOSE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
GENERAL SPECIFICALLY ABOUT UKRAINE?
UKRAINE? >> NOCHBL RUDY GIULIANI.
>> NOCHBL RUDY GIULIANI. VICTORIA AND JOE, THEY WERE ALL
VICTORIA AND JOE, THEY WERE ALL BEST FRIENDS T ATTORNEY GENERAL
>>> PAUL POINT OF PERSONAL
>>> PAUL POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
PRIVILEGE. ONE OF WEIRD THINGS FOR ME OVER
ONE OF WEIRD THINGS FOR ME OVER THE PAST FEW MOMENTS IS RIGHT AT
THE PAST FEW MOMENTS IS RIGHT AT THE TIME THAT HOUSE ANNOUNCED
THE TIME THAT HOUSE ANNOUNCED IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS, I RIGHT
IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS, I RIGHT THEN, THAT WEEK, WAS PUBLISHING
THEN, THAT WEEK, WAS PUBLISHING A BOOK CALLED "BLOWOUT" ABOUT
A BOOK CALLED "BLOWOUT" ABOUT THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. IN THE BOOK I USED THE STORY
IN THE BOOK I USED THE STORY THAT I THOUGHT WAS AN
THAT I THOUGHT WAS AN INTERESTING SIDEBAR UP STORY
INTERESTING SIDEBAR UP STORY ABOUT DIMITRI VERTASH, TO TELL A
ABOUT DIMITRI VERTASH, TO TELL A STORY ABOUT RUSSIA WAS
STORY ABOUT RUSSIA WAS DELIBERATELY -- AND THEN AS THE
DELIBERATELY -- AND THEN AS THE BOOK WAS COMING OUT, OTHER THAN
BOOK WAS COMING OUT, OTHER THAN DIMITT RICK WAS REVEALED TO BE
DIMITT RICK WAS REVEALED TO BE ONE OF THE FORCES AT WORK TO TRY
ONE OF THE FORCES AT WORK TO TRY TO SMEAR THIS CAMPAIGN TO SMEAR
TO SMEAR THIS CAMPAIGN TO SMEAR JOE BIDEN, FIRE THE AMBASSADOR.
JOE BIDEN, FIRE THE AMBASSADOR. IT WAS TOTALLY UNINTENTIONAL ON
IT WAS TOTALLY UNINTENTIONAL ON MY PART.
MY PART. IT WAS A BIT OF AN ACADEMIC NEWS
IT WAS A BIT OF AN ACADEMIC NEWS WORLD CAR CRASH.
WORLD CAR CRASH. NOW TODAY DIMITT RICK FURTASH
NOW TODAY DIMITT RICK FURTASH FACTOR HAS BEEN MORE MYSTERIOUS.
FACTOR HAS BEEN MORE MYSTERIOUS. HE IS UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT.
HE IS UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT. HE’S UNDER INDICTMENT ON
HE’S UNDER INDICTMENT ON MULTIPLE SERIOUS FELONY
MULTIPLE SERIOUS FELONY CORRUPTION CHARGES, FIGHTING
CORRUPTION CHARGES, FIGHTING EXTRADITION TO THE UNITED
EXTRADITION TO THE UNITED STATES, CURRENTLY UNDER HOUSE
STATES, CURRENTLY UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN VIENNA.
ARREST IN VIENNA. THE REASON WHY THIS GOT LESS
THE REASON WHY THIS GOT LESS MYSTERIOUS
MYSTERIOUS MYSTERIOUS, IN MY INTERVIEW, LEV
MYSTERIOUS, IN MY INTERVIEW, LEV PARNAS SPELLED OUT BASICALLY
PARNAS SPELLED OUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS OLIGARCH, DIMITRI
WHAT THIS OLIGARCH, DIMITRI FIRTASH WAS DOING, AND HOW IT
FIRTASH WAS DOING, AND HOW IT ALL ULTIMATELY BRINGS US TO THE
ALL ULTIMATELY BRINGS US TO THE DESK OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
DESK OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, WILLIAM BARR.
THE UNITED STATES, WILLIAM BARR. >>> SO AT SOME POINT WE HAD A
>>> SO AT SOME POINT WE HAD A MEETING AT OUR -- IN OUR OFFICE
MEETING AT OUR -- IN OUR OFFICE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR. >> AT THE TRUMP HOTEL?
>> AT THE TRUMP HOTEL? >> AT THE TRUMP HOTEL.
>> AT THE TRUMP HOTEL. AT THAT MEETING WITH RUDY AND
AT THAT MEETING WITH RUDY AND VICTORIA AND JOE, JOHN BROUGHT
VICTORIA AND JOE, JOHN BROUGHT UP SAYING HE HAD SOME INCREDIBLE
UP SAYING HE HAD SOME INCREDIBLE INFORMATION FROM FIRTASH CAMP,
INFORMATION FROM FIRTASH CAMP, WHICH LATER WAS FOUND OUT THAT
WHICH LATER WAS FOUND OUT THAT LENNY DAVIS GAVE IT TO HIM, BUT
LENNY DAVIS GAVE IT TO HIM, BUT BASICALLY SHOWED THAT ANDREW
BASICALLY SHOWED THAT ANDREW WEISMAN WAS DOING SOME LEGAL
WEISMAN WAS DOING SOME LEGAL STUFF, OFFERING A DEAL AND IT
STUFF, OFFERING A DEAL AND IT COULD BLOW UP THE SMALLER
COULD BLOW UP THE SMALLER INVESTIGATION UP THE KAZOO.
INVESTIGATION UP THE KAZOO. >> CAN I STOP YOU THERE?
>> CAN I STOP YOU THERE? THE ALLEGATION, AS YOU
THE ALLEGATION, AS YOU UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS THAT ANDREW
UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS THAT ANDREW WISEMAN, ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS
WISEMAN, ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS ON THE MUELLER TEAM, HAD HAD AN
ON THE MUELLER TEAM, HAD HAD AN INTERACTION WITH DIMITRI
INTERACTION WITH DIMITRI FIRTASH, AND THAT INTERACTION
FIRTASH, AND THAT INTERACTION MR. SOLOMON WAS SAYING WOULD
MR. SOLOMON WAS SAYING WOULD DISCREDIT THE MUELLER
DISCREDIT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. WE WERE BASICALLY TRYASKED TO TR
WE WERE BASICALLY TRYASKED TO TR TO ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP.
TO ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP. >> SPECIFICATION TO DISCREDIT
>> SPECIFICATION TO DISCREDIT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION.
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. >> I WAS GIVING CERTAIN
>> I WAS GIVING CERTAIN DOCUMENTS BY SOLOMON TO VALIDATE
DOCUMENTS BY SOLOMON TO VALIDATE TO FIRTASH THAT I WAS IN THE
TO FIRTASH THAT I WAS IN THE LOOP.
LOOP. HE DIDN’T JUST SEE ANYBODY.
HE DIDN’T JUST SEE ANYBODY. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET WITH
IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET WITH HIM.
HIM. WE HAD TO PROMISE FIRTASH
WE HAD TO PROMISE FIRTASH SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. IT WAS BASICALLY TELLING HIM WE
IT WAS BASICALLY TELLING HIM WE KNEW HIS CASE IS WORTHLESS HERE
KNEW HIS CASE IS WORTHLESS HERE AND THAT HE’S BEING PROSECUTED
AND THAT HE’S BEING PROSECUTED FOR NO REASON AND BASICALLY IT
FOR NO REASON AND BASICALLY IT COULD GET TAKEN CARE OF.
COULD GET TAKEN CARE OF. >> THAT WAS YOUR OFFER TO MR.
>> THAT WAS YOUR OFFER TO MR. FIRTASH, WE CAN GET THE CASE
FIRTASH, WE CAN GET THE CASE DROPPED.
DROPPED. >> YOUR EXTRADITION CASE, YES.
>> YOUR EXTRADITION CASE, YES. >>> SO THE EXCHANGE WITH MR.
>>> SO THE EXCHANGE WITH MR. FIRTASH WOULD BE YOU PROVIDE US
FIRTASH WOULD BE YOU PROVIDE US INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE
INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC
DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE MUELLER
PERCEPTION OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, AND WE IN TURN
INVESTIGATION, AND WE IN TURN WILL GET YOUR CASE DROPPED AT
WILL GET YOUR CASE DROPPED AT THE DOJ.
THE DOJ. >> THAT’S HOW IT BEGAN.
>> THAT’S HOW IT BEGAN. >>> THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME
>>> THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME LAWYERS TO EFFECTUATE THIS
LAWYERS TO EFFECTUATE THIS TRADE?
TRADE? >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >>> YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BROKER
>>> YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BROKER THIS?
THIS? >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >>> WHAT’S THIS $100,000 A
>>> WHAT’S THIS $100,000 A MONTH?
MONTH? >> THAT WAS EXPENSES FOR THEM.
>> THAT WAS EXPENSES FOR THEM. >> YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO DO
>> YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO DO NEGOTIATE WHAT THEY WERE GETTING
NEGOTIATE WHAT THEY WERE GETTING PAID?
PAID? >> MINE IS NOT THIS THERE.
>> MINE IS NOT THIS THERE. MINE WAS $200,000.
MINE WAS $200,000. >> WHAT’S THAT NEXT LINE?
>> WHAT’S THAT NEXT LINE? IS THAT THE FOUNDER OF BURISMA?
IS THAT THE FOUNDER OF BURISMA? >> YES.
>> YES. >>> WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BE
>>> WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING FROM LANNY DAVIS AND MR.
GETTING FROM LANNY DAVIS AND MR. FIRTASH?
FIRTASH? >> SUPPOSEDLY JOHN SOLOMON SAID
>> SUPPOSEDLY JOHN SOLOMON SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CASE
THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CASE ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. >> SO THAT’S WHY THIS WAS ALL
>> SO THAT’S WHY THIS WAS ALL ONE CONVERSATION WITH MR. RUDY
ONE CONVERSATION WITH MR. RUDY GIULIANI.
GIULIANI. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> ANNOUNCING THE BIDEN
>> ANNOUNCING THE BIDEN INVESTIGATION AND TALKING ABOUT
INVESTIGATION AND TALKING ABOUT GETTING FIRTASH OFF FROM THIS
GETTING FIRTASH OFF FROM THIS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PROSECUTION, THESE WERE
PROSECUTION, THESE WERE CONNECTED?
CONNECTED? >> IT WAS ALL CONNECTED.
>> IT WAS ALL CONNECTED. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE AGENDA WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
AGENDA WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UKRAINIANS ANNOUNCED THE BIDEN
UKRAINIANS ANNOUNCED THE BIDEN ADVANCE.
ADVANCE. >>> SO A CONSERVATIVE
>>> SO A CONSERVATIVE JOURNALIST, JOHN SOL MAN, AND
JOURNALIST, JOHN SOL MAN, AND TWO FOX NEWS LAWYERS, AND RUDY
TWO FOX NEWS LAWYERS, AND RUDY GIULIANI AND LEV PARNAS ARE ALL
GIULIANI AND LEV PARNAS ARE ALL IN THE TELLING, IN AN EFFORT TO
IN THE TELLING, IN AN EFFORT TO ENLIST THE HELP OF A
ENLIST THE HELP OF A BILLIONAIRE, KREMLIN-CONNECTED,
BILLIONAIRE, KREMLIN-CONNECTED, ALLEGEDLY MOBBED UP OLIGARCH, TO
ALLEGEDLY MOBBED UP OLIGARCH, TO HELP THEM PRESSURE THE
HELP THEM PRESSURE THE UKRAINIANS.
UKRAINIANS. THE OLIGARCH AND HIS TEAM TELLS
THE OLIGARCH AND HIS TEAM TELLS THE MOTLEY CRUE HE CAN HELP WITH
THE MOTLEY CRUE HE CAN HELP WITH GETTING THAT.
GETTING THAT. HE CAN ALSO HELP THEM DISCREDIT
HE CAN ALSO HELP THEM DISCREDIT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION.
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. THEY SAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THEY SAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER YOU IN
WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER YOU IN EXCHANGE IS WE CAN HELP STOP YOU
EXCHANGE IS WE CAN HELP STOP YOU FROM BEING EXTRADITED TO THE
FROM BEING EXTRADITED TO THE UNITED STATES TO FACE FELONY
UNITED STATES TO FACE FELONY CORRUPTION CHARGES FROM THE U.S.
CORRUPTION CHARGES FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. "THE WASHINGTON POST" JUST THIS
"THE WASHINGTON POST" JUST THIS AFTERNOON RECORDS THAT MR.
AFTERNOON RECORDS THAT MR. GIULIANI’S INVOLVED WITH MR.
GIULIANI’S INVOLVED WITH MR. FIRTASH, AND HIS SORT OF TEAM,
FIRTASH, AND HIS SORT OF TEAM, APPEARS TO BE AN ONGOING
APPEARS TO BE AN ONGOING CONCERN.
CONCERN. LEV PARNAS SAID HIS GROUP’S
LEV PARNAS SAID HIS GROUP’S ADVOCACY TO GET THE CASE
ADVOCACY TO GET THE CASE DROPPED, DID GO ALL THE WAY TO
DROPPED, DID GO ALL THE WAY TO ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR,
ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR, AND HE SAYS THAT ATTORNEY
AND HE SAYS THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WAS MORE WIDELY
GENERAL BARR WAS MORE WIDELY READ IN ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
READ IN ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING. DID YOU HAVE EVER MEETING WITH
DID YOU HAVE EVER MEETING WITH OR INTEREST INTERACTION WITH HIS
OR INTEREST INTERACTION WITH HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR?
ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR? >> I DID NOT PERSONALLY SPOKE TO
>> I DID NOT PERSONALLY SPOKE TO HIM, BUT I WAS INVOLVED IN LOTS
HIM, BUT I WAS INVOLVED IN LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS THAT JOE
OF CONVERSATIONS THAT JOE diGENOVA DID, RUDY GIULIANI IT
diGENOVA DID, RUDY GIULIANI IT IN FRONT OF ME, AND SETTING UP
IN FRONT OF ME, AND SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH --
MEETINGS WITH -- >> DO YOU KNOW IF RUDY GIULIANI
>> DO YOU KNOW IF RUDY GIULIANI WAS EVER IN CONTACT WITH MR.
WAS EVER IN CONTACT WITH MR. BARR, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
BARR, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET
FACT THAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET UKRAINE TO ANNOUNCE THEY
UKRAINE TO ANNOUNCE THEY INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN?
INVESTIGATION INTO JOE BIDEN? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> MR. BARR KNEW ABOUT IT?
>> MR. BARR KNEW ABOUT IT? >> MR. BARR HAD TO HAVE KNOWN
>> MR. BARR HAD TO HAVE KNOWN EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. IT’S GLOBAL.
IT’S GLOBAL. >> DID RUDY GIULIANI TELL YOU HE
>> DID RUDY GIULIANI TELL YOU HE HAD SPOKEN TO THE ATTORNEY
HAD SPOKEN TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SPECIFICALLY?
GENERAL SPECIFICALLY? >> NOT ONLY RUDY GIULIANI,
>> NOT ONLY RUDY GIULIANI, VICTORIA AND JOE, THEY WERE ALL
VICTORIA AND JOE, THEY WERE ALL BEST FRIENDS.
BEST FRIENDS. BARR WAS -- ATTORNEY GENERAL
BARR WAS -- ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WAS BASICALLY ON THE TEAM.
BARR WAS BASICALLY ON THE TEAM. >> WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
>> WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPOKE IN
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPOKE IN JULY, WE NO FROM THE WHO YOU
JULY, WE NO FROM THE WHO YOU NOTES OF THE CALL, PRESIDENT
NOTES OF THE CALL, PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD MR. ZELENSKY HE
TRUMP TOLD MR. ZELENSKY HE SHOULD CONTACT MR. WILLIAM BARR
SHOULD CONTACT MR. WILLIAM BARR ABOUT THESE INVESTIGATIONS THAT
ABOUT THESE INVESTIGATIONS THAT HE WANTED HIM TO DO.
HE WANTED HIM TO DO. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> THAT STRUCK A LOT OF PEOPLE
>> THAT STRUCK A LOT OF PEOPLE AS CHANGE.
AS CHANGE. ATTORNEY GENERAL BRAR WAS
ATTORNEY GENERAL BRAR WAS REPORTEDLY UPSET, DIDN’T KNOW
REPORTEDLY UPSET, DIDN’T KNOW WHY HE WOULD BE MENTIONED, BUT
WHY HE WOULD BE MENTIONED, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE KNEW ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION,
WE KNEW ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION, AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WANTED
AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BIDEN STUFF.
BIDEN STUFF. I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE GOT UPSET
I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE GOT UPSET THAT TRUMP TALKED -- THE
THAT TRUMP TALKED -- THE PRESIDENT OUSTED HIM, MAYBE, HE
PRESIDENT OUSTED HIM, MAYBE, HE DIDN’T WANT TO BE IN THE PUBLIC
DIDN’T WANT TO BE IN THE PUBLIC EYE, BUT IT WAS KNOWN INTERNALLY
EYE, BUT IT WAS KNOWN INTERNALLY THAT HE WAS INVESTIGATING THE
THAT HE WAS INVESTIGATING THE INVESTIGATORS.
INVESTIGATORS. >> DO YOU KNOW IF ATTORNEY
>> DO YOU KNOW IF ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR EVERY SPOKE
GENERAL WILLIAM BARR EVERY SPOKE WITH ANY UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS?
WITH ANY UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS? >> I DON’T RECALL AT THIS
>> I DON’T RECALL AT THIS MOMENT.
MOMENT. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT MY TEXT
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT MY TEXT MESSAGES AND SEE.
MESSAGES AND SEE. >>> WE CONTACTED THE JUSTICE
>>> WE CONTACTED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR COMMENT ON MR.
DEPARTMENT FOR COMMENT ON MR. PARNAS’ PECK AT
PARNAS’ PECK AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DID GIVE
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DID GIVE US A RESPONSE T. IS A.
US A RESPONSE T. IS A. IT IS A TWO-WORD RESPONSE,
IT IS A TWO-WORD RESPONSE, TECHNICALLY ONE NUMBER AND ONE
TECHNICALLY ONE NUMBER AND ONE WORD.
WORD. SHE TOLD US, QUOTE, 100% FALSE.
>>> TODAY THE IMPEACHMENT
>>> TODAY THE IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES WERE CONVEYED FROM THE
ARTICLES WERE CONVEYED FROM THE U.S. HOUSE TO THE U.S. SENATE.
U.S. HOUSE TO THE U.S. SENATE. SENATE TRIAL IS DUE TO FORMALLY
SENATE TRIAL IS DUE TO FORMALLY START TOMORROW.
START TOMORROW. ONE OF THE AWKWARD REVELATIONS
ONE OF THE AWKWARD REVELATIONS IN THIS SAGA IS THAT WHILE THE
IN THIS SAGA IS THAT WHILE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE IN THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE WAS LEADING THE
HOUSE WAS LEADING THE INVESTIGATION OF THE IMPEACHMENT
INVESTIGATION OF THE IMPEACHMENT SCAN
SCAN SCANDAL, IT EMERGED THAT THE TOP
SCANDAL, IT EMERGED THAT THE TOP REPUBLICAN MEMBER OF CONGRESS ON
REPUBLICAN MEMBER OF CONGRESS ON THAT COMMITTEE, CONGRESSMAN
THAT COMMITTEE, CONGRESSMAN DEVIN NUNES ON CALIFORNIA
DEVIN NUNES ON CALIFORNIA APPEARED HIMSELF TOCHB TO HAVE
APPEARED HIMSELF TOCHB TO HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO THE PEOPLE
BEEN CONNECTED TO THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE SCANDAL AND
INVOLVED IN THE SCANDAL AND POTENTIALLY TO THE SCANDAL
POTENTIALLY TO THE SCANDAL ITSELF.
ITSELF. BECAUSE CONGRESSMAN NUNES HAS
BECAUSE CONGRESSMAN NUNES HAS BEEN PUBLICLY VERY VAGUE AND
BEEN PUBLICLY VERY VAGUE AND DEFENSIVE ABOUT WHETHER HE
DEFENSIVE ABOUT WHETHER HE REMEMBERS ANY OF HIS OWN
REMEMBERS ANY OF HIS OWN COMMUNICATIONS WITH LEV PARNAS
COMMUNICATIONS WITH LEV PARNAS DURING THE TIME THIS UKRAINE
DURING THE TIME THIS UKRAINE SCHEME WAS UNDERWAY, I ASKED MR.
SCHEME WAS UNDERWAY, I ASKED MR. PARNAS TODAY IF HE REMEMBERS ANY
PARNAS TODAY IF HE REMEMBERS ANY INTERACTIONS WITH CONGRESSMAN
INTERACTIONS WITH CONGRESSMAN NUNES.
NUNES. >> DO YOU KNOW CONGRESSMAN DEVIN
>> DO YOU KNOW CONGRESSMAN DEVIN NUNES?
NUNES? >> YES, I DO.
>> YES, I DO. >> WHAT’S BEEN YOUR RELATIONSHIP
>> WHAT’S BEEN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM?
WITH HIM? >> WE DON’T HAVE TOO MUCH OF A
>> WE DON’T HAVE TOO MUCH OF A RELATIONSHIP.
RELATIONSHIP. WE MET SEVERAL TIMES AT THE
WE MET SEVERAL TIMES AT THE TRUMP HOTEL, BUT OUR
TRUMP HOTEL, BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP STARTED GETTING
RELATIONSHIP STARTED GETTING BASICALLY WHERE IT EXPANDED WAS
BASICALLY WHERE IT EXPANDED WAS WHEN I WAS SPROINTRODUCED TO HIS
WHEN I WAS SPROINTRODUCED TO HIS AIDE, DARA CARVEY, AND THE
AIDE, DARA CARVEY, AND THE REASON WHY DARA CARVEY I WAS
REASON WHY DARA CARVEY I WAS TOLD BECAUSE DEVIN NUNES HAD AN
TOLD BECAUSE DEVIN NUNES HAD AN ETHICS, AN ETHICS COMMITTEE, HE
ETHICS, AN ETHICS COMMITTEE, HE COULDN’T BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.
COULDN’T BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT. HE WAS KIND OF SHUNNED A LITTLE
HE WAS KIND OF SHUNNED A LITTLE BIT AND THAT HE WAS LOOKING INTO
BIT AND THAT HE WAS LOOKING INTO THIS UKRAINE STUFF ALSO, WANTED
THIS UKRAINE STUFF ALSO, WANTED TO HELP OUT.
TO HELP OUT. THEY GAVE ME DA ARE,.
THEY GAVE ME DA ARE,. >> YOU TOLD MR. HARVEY WHAT YOU
>> YOU TOLD MR. HARVEY WHAT YOU WERE WORKING ON IN UKRAINE?
WERE WORKING ON IN UKRAINE? >> HE WAS AWARE OF THAT ALREADY.
>> HE WAS AWARE OF THAT ALREADY. HE KNEW EVERYTHING.
HE KNEW EVERYTHING. >> HE ALREADY KNEW THAT BY THE
>> HE ALREADY KNEW THAT BY THE TIME HE TALKED TO YOU.
TIME HE TALKED TO YOU. >> HE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION
>> HE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION ALREADY.
ALREADY. >> DO YOU BELIEVE HE’D GOTTEN
>> DO YOU BELIEVE HE’D GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION FROM MR.
THAT INFORMATION FROM MR. GIULIANI?
GIULIANI? >> I THINK THAT THEY -- LIKE I
>> I THINK THAT THEY -- LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE
SAID, THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE DOING LIKE THIS OP RESEARCH OR
DOING LIKE THIS OP RESEARCH OR WHATEVER, I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU
WHATEVER, I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT IT WAS COMING FROM
CALL IT, BUT IT WAS COMING FROM DIFFERENT SIDES, YEAH.
DIFFERENT SIDES, YEAH. >> GIVEN THAT INTERACTION THAT
>> GIVEN THAT INTERACTION THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED WITH
YOU JUST DESCRIBED WITH CONGRESSMAN NUNES AND HIS AIDE,
CONGRESSMAN NUNES AND HIS AIDE, MR. HARVEY, DOES IT STRIKE YOU
MR. HARVEY, DOES IT STRIKE YOU AS UNUSUAL OR INAPPROPRIATE THAT
AS UNUSUAL OR INAPPROPRIATE THAT DEVIN NUNES WOULD BE ONE OF THE
DEVIN NUNES WOULD BE ONE OF THE LEAD INVESTIGATORS INTO THIS
LEAD INVESTIGATORS INTO THIS SCANDAL ON THE HOUSE
SCANDAL ON THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE?
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE? HE’S OBVIOUSLY THE TOP
HE’S OBVIOUSLY THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THAT COMMITTEE?
REPUBLICAN ON THAT COMMITTEE? >> I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN I WAS
>> I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE HEARINGS AND WHEN I
WATCHING THE HEARINGS AND WHEN I SAW DEVIN NUNES SITTING UP
SAW DEVIN NUNES SITTING UP THERE, AND THEN THERE WAS A
THERE, AND THEN THERE WAS A PICTURE WHERE HARVEY WAS IN BACK
PICTURE WHERE HARVEY WAS IN BACK SITTING.
SITTING. I TEXTED MY ATTORNEY I CAN’T
I TEXTED MY ATTORNEY I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING.
BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING. >> BECAUSE?
>> BECAUSE? >> BECAUSE THEY WERE INVOLVED IN
>> BECAUSE THEY WERE INVOLVED IN GETTING ALL THIS STUFF ON BIDEN.
GETTING ALL THIS STUFF ON BIDEN. I MEAN, DEREK HARVEY HAD SEVERAL
I MEAN, DEREK HARVEY HAD SEVERAL SKYPE INTERVIEWS I SET UP WITH
SKYPE INTERVIEWS I SET UP WITH DIFFERENT PROSECUTORS LIKE
DIFFERENT PROSECUTORS LIKE HALADITS
HALADITS HALADITSKY, THE CORRUPTION
HALADITSKY, THE CORRUPTION PROSECUTOR IN UKRAINE, SO IT’S
PROSECUTOR IN UKRAINE, SO IT’S HARD TO SEE THEM LIE LIKE THAT
HARD TO SEE THEM LIE LIKE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW IT’S LIKE THAT
WHEN YOU KNOW IT’S LIKE THAT SCARY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE WAS
SCARY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE WAS SITTING THERE AND MAKING ALL
SITTING THERE AND MAKING ALL THESE STATEMENTS AND ALL THAT
THESE STATEMENTS AND ALL THAT WHEN HE KNEW VERY WELL THAT HE
WHEN HE KNEW VERY WELL THAT HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE KNEW WHAT’S HAPPENING.
HE KNEW WHAT’S HAPPENING. HE KNOWS WHO I AM.
HE KNOWS WHO I AM. >> AGAIN, CONGRESSMAN DEVIN
>> AGAIN, CONGRESSMAN DEVIN NUNES IS THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON
NUNES IS THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE,
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT
WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT INVESTIGATED THE UKRAINE
INVESTIGATED THE UKRAINE SCANDAL.
SCANDAL. LEV PARNAS SAYS THAT MR. NUNES
LEV PARNAS SAYS THAT MR. NUNES AND HIS TOP STAFFER WERE
AND HIS TOP STAFFER WERE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE UKRAINE
ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE UKRAINE SCANDAL IN THE SENSE THAT THEY
SCANDAL IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE EFFORT TO
WERE INVOLVED IN THE EFFORT TO TRY TO GIN UP A CORRUPTION
TRY TO GIN UP A CORRUPTION SCANDAL FOR JOE BIDEN IN
SCANDAL FOR JOE BIDEN IN UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. MR. PARNAS SAYS HE HELPED THEM
MR. PARNAS SAYS HE HELPED THEM IN THAT EFFORT.
IN THAT EFFORT. WE CONTACTED CONGRESSMAN NUNES’S
WE CONTACTED CONGRESSMAN NUNES’S OFFICE FOR COMMENT TONIGHT.
OFFICE FOR COMMENT TONIGHT. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REPLY
>> YOU RAISED THE ISSUE OF
>> YOU RAISED THE ISSUE OF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH TO
AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH TO PRESIDENT TRUMP TELLING HIM THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP TELLING HIM THAT HE SHOULD GET RID OF HER?
HE SHOULD GET RID OF HER? >> I DIDN’T SAY GET RID OF HER.
>> I DIDN’T SAY GET RID OF HER. I TOLD HIM SHE’S BAD MOUTHING
I TOLD HIM SHE’S BAD MOUTHING HIM.
HIM. >> DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE HE
>> DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE HE DID BAD MOUTH HIM AND SAY BAD
DID BAD MOUTH HIM AND SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM, OR DO YOU
THINGS ABOUT HIM, OR DO YOU THINK THIS WAS PART OF THIS
THINK THIS WAS PART OF THIS DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN?
DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN? >> I DON’T BELIEVE IT.
>> I DON’T BELIEVE IT. THAT’S WHY I WANT TO APOLOGIZE
THAT’S WHY I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO HER BECAUSE AT THAT POINT I
TO HER BECAUSE AT THAT POINT I BELIEVED IT, BUT I DON’T BELIEVE
BELIEVED IT, BUT I DON’T BELIEVE IT NOW AFTER RE-EVALUATING AND
IT NOW AFTER RE-EVALUATING AND SEEING EVERYTHING THAT
SEEING EVERYTHING THAT TRANSPIRED, LOOKING AT THE
TRANSPIRED, LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTATION AGAIN.
DOCUMENTATION AGAIN. >> I DID NOT EXPECT THAT LEV
>> I DID NOT EXPECT THAT LEV PARNAS WOULD WANTED TO USE THIS
PARNAS WOULD WANTED TO USE THIS INTERVIEW TODAY TO APOLOGIZE TO
INTERVIEW TODAY TO APOLOGIZE TO AMBASSADOR MARIE YOVANOVITCH FOR
AMBASSADOR MARIE YOVANOVITCH FOR HIS ROLE IN THE EFFORT TO SMEAR
HIS ROLE IN THE EFFORT TO SMEAR HER AND GET HER FIRED, BUT HE
HER AND GET HER FIRED, BUT HE DID THAT.
DID THAT. THE BROADER CONTEXT MR. PARNAS
THE BROADER CONTEXT MR. PARNAS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THERE IS
WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THERE IS WHAT HE SAYS WAS A PERSONAL
WHAT HE SAYS WAS A PERSONAL INTERACTION HE HAD WITH
INTERACTION HE HAD WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP IN WHICH HE SAYS
PRESIDENT TRUMP IN WHICH HE SAYS HE WITNESSED PRESIDENT TRUMP
HE WITNESSED PRESIDENT TRUMP PERSONALLY ORDERING THE FIRING
PERSONALLY ORDERING THE FIRING OF MARIE YOVANOVITCH.
OF MARIE YOVANOVITCH. WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT IN
WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT IN PART TWO OF THE LEV PARNAS
PART TWO OF THE LEV PARNAS INTERVIEW TOMORROW NIGHT.
INTERVIEW TOMORROW NIGHT. WE’LL ALSO HAVE MORE FOR YOU
WE’LL ALSO HAVE MORE FOR YOU TOMORROW NIGHT ON WHAT MR.
TOMORROW NIGHT ON WHAT MR. PARNAS ALLEGED TODAY ABOUT
PARNAS ALLEGED TODAY ABOUT FORMER ENERGY SECRETARY RICK
FORMER ENERGY SECRETARY RICK PERRY AND CURRENT SECRETARY OF
PERRY AND CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO.
STATE MIKE POMPEO. WE’RE DOING A LITTLE MORE
WE’RE DOING A LITTLE MORE REPORTING ON THOSE ALLEGATIONS
REPORTING ON THOSE ALLEGATIONS AND CLAIMS, WE’RE LOOKING, IN
AND CLAIMS, WE’RE LOOKING, IN FACT, AT SOME OF THE NEW
FACT, AT SOME OF THE NEW INFORMATION THAT BOLSTERS MR.
INFORMATION THAT BOLSTERS MR. PARNAS’S CASE WHICH WAS JUST
PARNAS’S CASE WHICH WAS JUST RELEASED TONIGHT BY THE
RELEASED TONIGHT BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. SO AGAIN, MORE ON THAT TOMORROW
SO AGAIN, MORE ON THAT TOMORROW IN PART TWO OF THIS INTERVIEW.
IN PART TWO OF THIS INTERVIEW. I DO JUST BEFORE I GO WANT TO
I DO JUST BEFORE I GO WANT TO BRING YOU SOME NEWS WE JUST GOT
BRING YOU SOME NEWS WE JUST GOT MOMENTS AGO WHILE WE HAVE BEEN
MOMENTS AGO WHILE WE HAVE BEEN ON THE AIR TONIGHT IN THE PAST
ON THE AIR TONIGHT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MINUTES, WE GOT A
COUPLE OF MINUTES, WE GOT A RESPONSE FROM FORMER NEW YORK
RESPONSE FROM FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI TO
CITY MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI TO SOMETHING MR. PARNAS TOLD US IN
SOMETHING MR. PARNAS TOLD US IN TODAY’S INTERVIEW.
TODAY’S INTERVIEW. YOU SAW MR. PARNAS SAY ON THE
YOU SAW MR. PARNAS SAY ON THE AIR GIULIANI HAD MADE
AIR GIULIANI HAD MADE INTRODUCTIONS FOR HIM WITH
INTRODUCTIONS FOR HIM WITH UKRAINE OFFICIALS IN WHICH HE
UKRAINE OFFICIALS IN WHICH HE TOLD THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS
TOLD THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS THAT MR. PARNAS SPOKE AS A
THAT MR. PARNAS SPOKE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF PRESIDENT
REPRESENTATIVE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
TRUMP. MR. GIULIANI DENIED TO US THAT
MR. GIULIANI DENIED TO US THAT HE EVER DID THAT, ASKED WHETHER
HE EVER DID THAT, ASKED WHETHER MR. PARNAS WAS SPEAKING ON
MR. PARNAS WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT IN
BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE, MAYOR GIULIANI TOLD US
UKRAINE, MAYOR GIULIANI TOLD US TONIGHT, QUOTE, NEVER.
TONIGHT, QUOTE, NEVER. HE ALSO CALLED MR. PARNAS A,
