ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 
>> Barry: VIEWERS FROM APPLETON 
>> Barry: VIEWERS FROM APPLETON 
IN SURGEON LAKE ARE CONCERNED   
IN SURGEON LAKE ARE CONCERNED   
ABOUT FOOD STAMPS AND WONDERING 
ABOUT FOOD STAMPS AND WONDERING 
WHETHER OR NOT THERE NEEDS TO BE
WHETHER OR NOT THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOME REFORM OF THOSE PROGRAMS   
SOME REFORM OF THOSE PROGRAMS   
RELATIVE TO BENEFICIARIES WHO   
RELATIVE TO BENEFICIARIES WHO   
RECEIVE THE FOOD STAMPS AND     
RECEIVE THE FOOD STAMPS AND     
WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE GOING  
WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE GOING  
TO BE ANY CHANGES GENERALLY.    
TO BE ANY CHANGES GENERALLY.    
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?           
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?           
>> WE HAD 20 HEARINGS IN THE    
>> WE HAD 20 HEARINGS IN THE    
LAST TWO YEARS EXAMINING THE    
LAST TWO YEARS EXAMINING THE    
FOOD STAMP PROGRAM.             
FOOD STAMP PROGRAM.             
WE HAD EVERY EXPERT FROM EVERY  
WE HAD EVERY EXPERT FROM EVERY  
POINT OF VIEW THAT YOU COULD    
POINT OF VIEW THAT YOU COULD    
IMAGINE HAS COME IN AND         
IMAGINE HAS COME IN AND         
TESTIFIED BEFORE THE AGRICULTURE
TESTIFIED BEFORE THE AGRICULTURE
COMMITTEE.                      
COMMITTEE.                      
>> I SHOULD TELL OUR VIEWERS,   
>> I SHOULD TELL OUR VIEWERS,   
YOU ARE THE RANKING MEMBER ON   
YOU ARE THE RANKING MEMBER ON   
THE AG COMMITTEE.               
THE AG COMMITTEE.               
>> SO GENERALLY THE MESSAGE WE  
>> SO GENERALLY THE MESSAGE WE  
HAVE GOTTEN FROM EVERYBODY IS   
HAVE GOTTEN FROM EVERYBODY IS   
THAT IT'S REALLY WORKING PRETTY 
THAT IT'S REALLY WORKING PRETTY 
WELL.                           
WELL.                           
AND THERE'S LESS FRAUD IN THE   
AND THERE'S LESS FRAUD IN THE   
FOOD STAMP PROGRAM THAN THERE IS
FOOD STAMP PROGRAM THAN THERE IS
IN A LOT OF OTHER FEDERAL       
IN A LOT OF OTHER FEDERAL       
PROGRAMS.                       
PROGRAMS.                       
WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB  
WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB  
OF CLAMPING DOWN ON THAT.       
OF CLAMPING DOWN ON THAT.       
WE WENT TO THE ZBT CARD, THAT   
WE WENT TO THE ZBT CARD, THAT   
REALLY CUT THE FRAUD OUT.       
REALLY CUT THE FRAUD OUT.       
NOW IN ORDER TO HAVE FRAUD IN   
NOW IN ORDER TO HAVE FRAUD IN   
THE FOOD STAMP SYSTEM, YOU HAVE 
THE FOOD STAMP SYSTEM, YOU HAVE 
GOT TO HAVE CONCLUSION BETWEEN  
GOT TO HAVE CONCLUSION BETWEEN  
THE STORE OWNER AND THE FOOD    
THE STORE OWNER AND THE FOOD    
STAMP RECIPIENT.                
STAMP RECIPIENT.                
IF YOU SEE A LOT OF THAT GOING  
IF YOU SEE A LOT OF THAT GOING  
ON, THEY WILL GO OUT THERE AND  
ON, THEY WILL GO OUT THERE AND  
NAB THE GUY, AND WE HAVE        
NAB THE GUY, AND WE HAVE        
ARRESTED QUITE A FEW OF THESE   
ARRESTED QUITE A FEW OF THESE   
SMALL STORES THAT DON'T HAVE    
SMALL STORES THAT DON'T HAVE    
ELECTRONIC CHECK-OUT, WHICH IS  
ELECTRONIC CHECK-OUT, WHICH IS  
NORMALLY WHERE THIS HAPPENS.    
NORMALLY WHERE THIS HAPPENS.    
WE ARE DOWN TO LESS THAN 3% IN  
WE ARE DOWN TO LESS THAN 3% IN  
ERROR AND FRAUD IN THE FOOD     
ERROR AND FRAUD IN THE FOOD     
STAMP SYSTEM, WHICH I SAID IS   
STAMP SYSTEM, WHICH I SAID IS   
BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER      
BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER      
PLACES.                         
PLACES.                         
SO THERE'S BEEN NO CASE THAT'S  
SO THERE'S BEEN NO CASE THAT'S  
BEEN MADE AT THIS POINT FOR ANY 
BEEN MADE AT THIS POINT FOR ANY 
MAJOR OVERALL.                  
MAJOR OVERALL.                  
THE ONE THING THAT'S STILL OUT  
THE ONE THING THAT'S STILL OUT  
THERE -- AND THIS IS WHAT       
THERE -- AND THIS IS WHAT       
BROUGHT THE BILL DOWN IN 2013 --
BROUGHT THE BILL DOWN IN 2013 --
IS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE 
IS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE 
THE ABLE BODIED ADULTS WITHOUT  
THE ABLE BODIED ADULTS WITHOUT  
DEPENDENTS WORK BEFORE THEY GET 
DEPENDENTS WORK BEFORE THEY GET 
FOOD STAMPS.                    
FOOD STAMPS.                    
>> OR AS THEY ARE GETTING FOOD  
>> OR AS THEY ARE GETTING FOOD  
STAMPS.                         
STAMPS.                         
>> IN 1996 I WAS ONE OF THE     
>> IN 1996 I WAS ONE OF THE     
DEMOCRATS THAT WORKED WITH      
DEMOCRATS THAT WORKED WITH      
CLINTON TO REFORM THE WELFARE   
CLINTON TO REFORM THE WELFARE   
SYSTEM AND THE FOOD STAMP SYSTEM
SYSTEM AND THE FOOD STAMP SYSTEM
THAT SAID THAT THESE -- THEY    
THAT SAID THAT THESE -- THEY    
COULD ONLY BE ON THE SYSTEM FOR 
COULD ONLY BE ON THE SYSTEM FOR 
THREE MONTHS IF THEY WEREN'T    
THREE MONTHS IF THEY WEREN'T    
WORKING, SO IF THEY WORNT       
WORKING, SO IF THEY WORNT       
WORKING EVERY THREE MONTHS THEY 
WORKING EVERY THREE MONTHS THEY 
ARE OFF IN BOTH SYSTEMS, AND    
ARE OFF IN BOTH SYSTEMS, AND    
WHAT HAPPENED IN 2009 IN THE    
WHAT HAPPENED IN 2009 IN THE    
STIMULUS BILL THEY RELAX THOSE  
STIMULUS BILL THEY RELAX THOSE  
REQUIREMENTS AND THEY SAID THE  
REQUIREMENTS AND THEY SAID THE  
STATES AND THE COUNTIES AND THE 
STATES AND THE COUNTIES AND THE 
CITIES COULD ISSUE WAIVERS IF   
CITIES COULD ISSUE WAIVERS IF   
THEY HAD A CERTAIN LEVEL OF     
THEY HAD A CERTAIN LEVEL OF     
UNEMPLOYMENT IN THAT AREA SO    
UNEMPLOYMENT IN THAT AREA SO    
THAT WORK REQUIREMENT COULD BE  
THAT WORK REQUIREMENT COULD BE  
WAIVED, AND IT WAS, AND YOU HAVE
WAIVED, AND IT WAS, AND YOU HAVE
A LOT OF FOLKS ON WELFARE LIVING
A LOT OF FOLKS ON WELFARE LIVING
IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NO     
IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NO     
JOBS.                           
JOBS.                           
IF THEY CAME TO NORTHWEST       
IF THEY CAME TO NORTHWEST       
MINNESOTA, ANYBODY THAT SHOWS UP
MINNESOTA, ANYBODY THAT SHOWS UP
THAT HAS GOT ANY SKILL AT ALL IS
THAT HAS GOT ANY SKILL AT ALL IS
GOING TO HAVE A JOB, BUT IN SOME
GOING TO HAVE A JOB, BUT IN SOME
PLACES THERE'S NOT JOBS.        
PLACES THERE'S NOT JOBS.        
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND 85% OF
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND 85% OF
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS     
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS     
CATEGORY OR EITHER SENIOR       
CATEGORY OR EITHER SENIOR       
CITIZENS OR CHILDREN OR ARE     
CITIZENS OR CHILDREN OR ARE     
DISABLED.                       
DISABLED.                       
SO YOU ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT   
SO YOU ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT   
15% OF THE POPULATION THAT'S    
15% OF THE POPULATION THAT'S    
INVOLVED HERE AT THE MOST.      
INVOLVED HERE AT THE MOST.      
WE ARE NOW -- THE WAIVERS HAVE  
WE ARE NOW -- THE WAIVERS HAVE  
GONE AWAY AND SO I DON'T THINK  
GONE AWAY AND SO I DON'T THINK  
THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH CHANGE 
THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH CHANGE 
IN FOOD STAMPS.                 
IN FOOD STAMPS.                 
THAT WHOLE SAVINGS CAME OUT OF  
THAT WHOLE SAVINGS CAME OUT OF  
FOOD STAMPS.                    
FOOD STAMPS.                    
THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THE     
THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THE     
SYSTEM GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND
SYSTEM GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT 
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT 
GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.          
GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.          
