>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK. TODAY THE PENTAGON WAS EXPECTED
TODAY THE PENTAGON WAS EXPECTED TO PRESENT PRESIDENT TRUMP WITH
TO PRESENT PRESIDENT TRUMP WITH RANGE OF MILITARY OPTIONS
RANGE OF MILITARY OPTIONS AGAINST IRAN LESS THAN A WEEK
AGAINST IRAN LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER AN ATTACK ON SAUDI
AFTER AN ATTACK ON SAUDI ARABIA’S OIL INDUSTRY.
ARABIA’S OIL INDUSTRY. AN ATTACK THE WHITE HOUSE HAS
AN ATTACK THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BLAMED ON IRAN.
BLAMED ON IRAN. THE PRESIDENT TARGET’S IRAN’S
THE PRESIDENT TARGET’S IRAN’S ECONOMY TODAY WITH MORE
ECONOMY TODAY WITH MORE SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN’S
SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN’S NATIONAL BANK.
NATIONAL BANK. HE ALSO WARNED HE IS PREPARED
HE ALSO WARNED HE IS PREPARED FOR US TO USE MILITARY FORCE IF
FOR US TO USE MILITARY FORCE IF HE DECIDES IT’S NECESSARY.
HE DECIDES IT’S NECESSARY. >> I DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
>> I DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT. I WILL SAY I THINK THE SANCTIONS
I WILL SAY I THINK THE SANCTIONS WORK AND THE MILITARY WOULD
WORK AND THE MILITARY WOULD WORK.
WORK. THAT’S A VERY SEVERE FORM OF
THAT’S A VERY SEVERE FORM OF WINNING, BUT WE WIN.
WINNING, BUT WE WIN. NOBODY CAN BEAT US MILLTARIALLY.
NOBODY CAN BEAT US MILLTARIALLY. NOBODY CAN COME CLOSE.
NOBODY CAN COME CLOSE. >> WITH US IS RICHARD ENGEL.
>> WITH US IS RICHARD ENGEL. YOU’RE DOING A SPECIAL ON ISIS.
YOU’RE DOING A SPECIAL ON ISIS. IN SOME WAYS I THINK WE WISH WE
IN SOME WAYS I THINK WE WISH WE HAD AN ISIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW
HAD AN ISIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WHEN WE SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN
WHEN WE SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH IRAN.
WITH IRAN. I’M NOT WISHING IT.
I’M NOT WISHING IT. EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT --
EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT -- WHY IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE THERE’S
WHY IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE THERE’S SUCH THING AS A SURGICAL IRANIAN
SUCH THING AS A SURGICAL IRANIAN STRIKE THE WAY WE SAW WITH
STRIKE THE WAY WE SAW WITH SYRIA.
SYRIA. >> I STILL THINK WE HAVE AN ISIS
>> I STILL THINK WE HAVE AN ISIS PROBLEM AND WE’LL TALK ABOUT
PROBLEM AND WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
THAT IN A SECOND. THE IDEA THERE COULD BE A QUICK
THE IDEA THERE COULD BE A QUICK SURGICAL STRIKE WITH IRAN, THAT
SURGICAL STRIKE WITH IRAN, THAT IT WILL ONE AND DONE AND THE
IT WILL ONE AND DONE AND THE IRAN PROBLEM WILL GO AWAY IS A
IRAN PROBLEM WILL GO AWAY IS A TOTAL FALLACY.
TOTAL FALLACY. IRAN IS A SOPHISTICATED COUNTRY
IRAN IS A SOPHISTICATED COUNTRY BUT IN AN ALL OUT WAR, THE U.S.
BUT IN AN ALL OUT WAR, THE U.S. WOULD WIN.
WOULD WIN. IT WILL BE A FIGHT THROUGH
IT WILL BE A FIGHT THROUGH PROXY.
PROXY. IT WILL BE A FIGHT PROBABLY NOT
IT WILL BE A FIGHT PROBABLY NOT IN IRAN.
IN IRAN. IRAN WOULD CONFRONT THE UNITED
IRAN WOULD CONFRONT THE UNITED STATES OUTSIDE OF ITS BORDERS.
STATES OUTSIDE OF ITS BORDERS. IT WOULD USE ALLIED MALITIAS IN
IT WOULD USE ALLIED MALITIAS IN IRAQ TARGETING THE U.S.
IRAQ TARGETING THE U.S. EMBASSIES THERE.
EMBASSIES THERE. IT COULD USE ITS MALITIAS IN
IT COULD USE ITS MALITIAS IN SYRIA.
SYRIA. IT COULD TARGET U.S. FORCES
IT COULD TARGET U.S. FORCES THERE.
THERE. PERHAPS EVEN INDIRECTLY.
PERHAPS EVEN INDIRECTLY. HIDING ITS HAND.
HIDING ITS HAND. IT COULD TARGET U.S. FORCES IN
IT COULD TARGET U.S. FORCES IN HAFRG WHICH IS RIGHT ON IRAN’S
HAFRG WHICH IS RIGHT ON IRAN’S BORDER.
BORDER. IT WOULD BE A LOW LEVEL, VERY
IT WOULD BE A LOW LEVEL, VERY COMPLICATED CAMPAIGN THAT IRAN
COMPLICATED CAMPAIGN THAT IRAN WOULD CONTACT HIDING ITS HAND
WOULD CONTACT HIDING ITS HAND AND CARRIED OUT IN OTHER
AND CARRIED OUT IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
COUNTRIES. IT WOULD BE PROTRACTED.
IT WOULD BE PROTRACTED. IT WOULD BE CONFUSING.
IT WOULD BE CONFUSING. ET WOULD BE DENY
ET WOULD BE DENY IT WOULTDD BE DENIABLE.
IT WOULTDD BE DENIABLE. IT WOULD BE NO ONE AND DONE AND
IT WOULD BE NO ONE AND DONE AND WE’RE MOVING ONTO SOMETHING
WE’RE MOVING ONTO SOMETHING ELSE.
ELSE. >> IRAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN
>> IRAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ALLY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS
ALLY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS AR ALLY MIGHT BE STRONG OF A
AR ALLY MIGHT BE STRONG OF A WORD BUT IN SOME WAYS THEY ARE.
WORD BUT IN SOME WAYS THEY ARE. I’M NOT GOING ASK YOU TO FIT
I’M NOT GOING ASK YOU TO FIT BOTH STORIES TOGETHER IN THIS.
BOTH STORIES TOGETHER IN THIS. IT IS SORT OF A REMINDER OF JUST
IT IS SORT OF A REMINDER OF JUST HOW COMPLICATED THE WHOLE THING
HOW COMPLICATED THE WHOLE THING IS IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW.
IS IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW. >> IRAN HAS BEEN AN ALLY WITH
>> IRAN HAS BEEN AN ALLY WITH THE UNITED STATES IN FIGHTING
THE UNITED STATES IN FIGHTING EXTREMISM.
EXTREMISM. IRAN HELPED THE UNITED STATES
IRAN HELPED THE UNITED STATES AFTER 9/11.
AFTER 9/11. DID NOT WANT TO SEE THE TALIBAN
DID NOT WANT TO SEE THE TALIBAN STAY IN POWER BUT IRAN HAS ALSO
STAY IN POWER BUT IRAN HAS ALSO TRIED TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS TO A
TRIED TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS TO A DEGREE.
DEGREE. NOT TO CONFLATE THE TWO STORIES
NOT TO CONFLATE THE TWO STORIES BUT IRAN’S POSITION ON ISIS HAS
BUT IRAN’S POSITION ON ISIS HAS BEEN FAIRLY CLEAR.
BEEN FAIRLY CLEAR. IT DOES NOT WANT TO SEE ISIS
IT DOES NOT WANT TO SEE ISIS COME BACK.
COME BACK. IT DOES NOT WANT TO SEE ISIS
IT DOES NOT WANT TO SEE ISIS THRIVE WHICH BRINGS US TO THE
THRIVE WHICH BRINGS US TO THE ISIS ISSUE WHICH WE’RE GOING TO
ISIS ISSUE WHICH WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ON SUNDAY NIGHT
BE TALKING ABOUT ON SUNDAY NIGHT FOR AN HOUR.
FOR AN HOUR. THE U.S. WITH THE KURDISH FORCE
THE U.S. WITH THE KURDISH FORCE THE DPEETED EDDEFEATED THE CALIP
THE DPEETED EDDEFEATED THE CALIP THERE ARE STILL TENS OF
THERE ARE STILL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ISIS MEMBERS,
THOUSANDS OF ISIS MEMBERS, FIGHTERS, FAMILY MEMBERS, PEOPLE
FIGHTERS, FAMILY MEMBERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE IDEOLOGICALLY COMMITTED
WHO ARE IDEOLOGICALLY COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE.
TO THE CAUSE. THERE’S AS MANY AS 18,000 ISIS
THERE’S AS MANY AS 18,000 ISIS MEMBERS STILL AT LARGE FLP.
MEMBERS STILL AT LARGE FLP. THERE ARE CAMPS IN SYRIA WHERE
THERE ARE CAMPS IN SYRIA WHERE ISIS SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN HERDED
ISIS SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN HERDED TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. THEY ARE LOOSELY GUARDED AND THE
THEY ARE LOOSELY GUARDED AND THE PEOPLE ARE SITTING AROUND WITH
PEOPLE ARE SITTING AROUND WITH NOTHING TO DO.
NOTHING TO DO. STILL COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE AND
STILL COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE AND THEY ARE A TICKING TIME BOMB.
THEY ARE A TICKING TIME BOMB. >> DO THEY HAVE NO COUNTRY TO GO
>> DO THEY HAVE NO COUNTRY TO GO TO?
TO? THEIR HOME COUNTRIES HAVE
THEIR HOME COUNTRIES HAVE REJECTED THEM IN SOME CASES?
REJECTED THEM IN SOME CASES? >> ONE OF THE CAMPS WE SPENT A
>> ONE OF THE CAMPS WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN IN NORTHERN
LOT OF TIME IN IN NORTHERN SYRIA.
SYRIA. ABOUT 70,000 PEOPLE THERE.
ABOUT 70,000 PEOPLE THERE. SOME OF THEM LOCAL NATIONALS.
SOME OF THEM LOCAL NATIONALS. SAY LOCALS WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM
SAY LOCALS WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM IRAQ AND SYRIA WHO CAME TO JOIN
IRAQ AND SYRIA WHO CAME TO JOIN ISIS FROM THE NEIGHBORING
ISIS FROM THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.
COUNTRIES. THEY WERE KIND OF BROUGHT INTO
THEY WERE KIND OF BROUGHT INTO THE ISLAMIC STATE BECAUSE THEY
THE ISLAMIC STATE BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE.
WERE THERE. THEN THERE ARE THE FOREIGN
THEN THERE ARE THE FOREIGN FIGHTERS WHO CAME FROM EUROPE OR
FIGHTERS WHO CAME FROM EUROPE OR OTHER MORE DISTANT ARAB WORLD
OTHER MORE DISTANT ARAB WORLD COUNTRIES TO JOIN ISIS.
COUNTRIES TO JOIN ISIS. THOSE COUNTRIES DON’T WANT THEM
THOSE COUNTRIES DON’T WANT THEM BACK.
BACK. FRANCE, GERMANY, PEOPLE CAME
FRANCE, GERMANY, PEOPLE CAME FROM THE CARIBBEAN, DON’T BRING
FROM THE CARIBBEAN, DON’T BRING THEM BACK.
THEM BACK. THIS ISN’T A SOLUTION TO THE
