We're in a moment where scientists can't
explain to us what's going to happen in the
future anymore, and I feel like artists
are creating these spaces for people
to imagine that future.
I see technologies as a material,
a material like any other art form.
I'm really interested in this idea of skipping
timelines and the way that technology allows us
to do that.
We're able to project ourselves way into the future
to address the systemic oppressions
that we've been living in
and really speak to power
in a way that has the possibility to affect change.
In the future, we need to be tuned to the way in which
could actually morph together
and build a practice, in which the borders
between those fields is eroded,
in which we work together,
in which we think tactically
about how best to achieve the aims,
the social and political aims for justice
that we are fighting for.
I think everything is well placed to
create social change, not just art.
But I think that artists do have the benefit of
an incredible imagination that almost
I say it's like a goal to essentially reach a state where
you can overcome the
possibilities of the present.
I think this pairing up of the future and the past,
and how they can inform each other, is something
that I'm finding very interesting right now.
Protests are exactly about
challenge to inequality,
but also inequality that is perpetuated
by cultural forms like the monuments.
I'm definitely working on the alternative
type of monuments.
And I'm also preparing
to enter the sites of those monuments.
Whether they're going to be destroyed,
removed or maintained,
they will help people to develop a discourse
in public space.
I've been looking into black quantum futurism
and basically their coupling up of
and also exploring time travel and collapsing time
to a specific or a desired space time,
which I think is super, super interesting.
And I think that line of thinking is something that
might help to unlock new avenues of exploration.
We're going to be governed and we're going to be
surveyed, we're going to be targeted by
increasingly more sophisticated technologies,
but each one of those technologies,
we would try to find a potential to subvert it,
to turn it around and to do justice with it.
Whether it is machine learning, virtual reality,
immersive environments or artificial intelligence.
I'm not interested in what art would look like
in 50 years, I'm interested in
I really want to look into failed experiments like
creating time machines.
I think just looking at the theories that have
gone behind it might just be really interesting
and just be of some form of raw material.
Technology could advance, but I think
our understanding of the universe
is something that's always going to be a challenge.
So I think, it might then drive us to want to answer
things that probably weren't answerable
before, whether that be higher powers
or whether that be what's actually at the bottom
of the ocean floor.
I feel that artists are innovators
and I think that with a
we could see artists becoming
a role in itself, not just
predicting the future, but also really
building and shaping it.
I'm excited to be part of, I hope that I get to see,
a future beyond disciplines
and a future where justice is centred.
