>> Shannon: MIKE EMANUEL IN
WASHINGTON.
PREPARE FOR IMPEACHMENT, THAT'S
WHAT ERIC SWALWELL SAID.
THE PRESSURE ON PELOSI IS
HEATING UP.
LET'S BRING IN DEMOCRATIC
STRATEGIST DAVE BROWN.
I WANT TO READ A STATEMENT FROM
ROBERT BARNES, HE WILL BE ON THE
SHOW LATER TO TALK SOME THINGS.
MUELLER SAID HE COULD NOT ACCUSE
TRIBE OF A
TRUMP OF A CRIME.
-- YOU KNOW THE COMPARISONS
HE'S GETTING AT TODAY A LOT OF
THE HILLARY CLINTON PEOPLE FELT
AFTER JAMES COMEY CAME OUT AND
DID SIMILAR SONG AND DANCE
CRITICS WOULD SAY, HOW DO YOU
RESPOND?
>> I THINK THE OLC MEMO IS
SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A
SERIOUS LOOK AT.
THE IDEA THAT A SITTING
PRESIDENT IS IMMUNE FROM ANY
KIND OF ACTION.
OUTSIDE OF IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY IMPEACHMENT IS AN
INCREDIBLY GRAVE ACTION FOR ANY
CONGRESS TO TAKE AND I THINK WE
ARE NOW SEEING A CONVERGENCE OF
PRESSURES AND INTERESTS HERE
BECAUSE MUELLER FELT HIS HANDS
WERE TIED BY THIS MEMO AND A
LONG-STANDING DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE POLICY.
I DON'T KNOW THIS LAWYER, I
CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WITH HIS
CHARACTERIZATION HERE -- THE
REALITY IS WHAT BOB MUELLER DID
WAS LAY OUT A METICULOUS CASE OF
ALL OF THE INSTANCES IN WHICH
THERE IS A PROVABLE ISSUE OF
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
TODAY, THE EXTENT THAT HE COULD
PASS THE BATON TO CONGRESS, THIS
IS SOMETHING EVERY AMERICAN
NEEDS TO CARE ABOUT.
>> Shannon: FROM THE TIME THAT
BARR RELEASED THE REPORT, THERE
HAVE BEEN DEMOCRATS SAYING HE'S
GIVEN US THE ROAD MAP TO
IMPEACHMENT.
HERE'S WHAT CONGRESSMAN JERRY
NADLER SAID, HE IS THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, THAT IS WHERE
IMPEACHMENT WOULD START.
>> AS MUELLER HIGHLIGHTED THIS
MORNING, IT FALLS TO CONGRESS TO
RESPOND TO CRIMES, LIES AND
OTHER WRONGDOING OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> Shannon: WHAT'S THE PRO AND
CON OF THE DEMOCRATS GOING DOWN
THIS PATH?
>> I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE TO BE
WARY OF THE FACT THAT MUELLER
DIDN'T RECOMMEND INDICTMENT.
HE DIDN'T MAKE CLEAR WHETHER IN
THE ABSENCE OF THE DOJ MEMO
WHETHER HE ACTUALLY WOULD
INDICT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO
SAID THAT'S THE ONLY THING
STOPPING HIM MOVING FORWARD FROM
AN OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
RECOMMENDATION -- HE SAID
THERE'S A THRESHOLD ISSUE HERE,
THE THRESHOLD ISSUE IS THE DOJ
RULING THE PRESIDENT CAN'T BE
INDICTED AND THEREFORE I'M NOT
GOING TO REACH TO THE ACTUAL
UNDERLYING ISSUE WHETHER THE
PRESIDENT IN THE ABSENCE OF THE
RULING WOULD BE INDICTED.
THAT HAS LEFT EVERYBODY LOOKING
AROUND GOING WHAT ARE YOU HERE
TO DO?
YOU ARE AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH
EMPLOYEE, CONGRESS HAS ITS OWN
POWERS.
YOU ARE NOT POSITIONED OR
CREATED, YOUR JOB WAS NOT
CREATED TO CREATE AN IMPEACHMENT
ROAD MAP, IT WAS PRESUMABLY TO
UNCOVER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT
WAS PROSECUTABLE.
IF HE KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING HE
COULDN'T PROSECUTE THIS, WHAT IS
YOUR JOB AND WHY DID WE SPEND
TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
PURSUING AT?
>> Shannon: SEVERAL RECENT
POLLS OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS
SAYING ENOUGH ALREADY, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE READY TO
MOVE ON, THEY TRUST THAT MUELLER
DID HIS JOB.
THEY ARE FINE WITH THE
CONCLUSIONS, THEY ARE READY TO
MOVE ON TO LEGISLATING AND DOING
OTHER THINGS.
DO DEMOCRATS GO AT THEIR OWN
PERIL OR WILL IT PAY DIVIDENDS
FOR THEM?
>> THE POLLS ARE ALL OVER THE
PLACE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
DIRECTLY.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH
WASHINGTON, WE ARE LOOKING AT
THIS THROUGH A POLITICAL PRISM.
IT'S WHO'S ON TOP AND WHO'S
GOING TO WIN.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS
BEYOND OF ZERO-SUM, THERE ARE
SERIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE BEING
IMPLICATED ANYTIME YOU ARE BEING
PUTTING IMPEACHMENT ON THE
TABLE, IF THERE IS CONDUCT THAT
RISES TO A LEVEL OF HIGH CRIMES
AND MISDEMEANORS BY A PRESIDENT,
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION TO THE EXTENT THAT
IT'S POSSIBLE DIVORCE FROM
PARTISAN POLITICS.
OBVIOUSLY IMPEACHMENT IS A
POLITICAL STANDARD BUT I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE THIS DIVORCED FROM
PARTISANSHIP.
NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN LEADING
WITH A STEADY HAND, SHE IS
LEGISLATING AND AUTHORIZING A
ROBUST INVESTIGATION AND YOU ARE
SEEING THAT BORNE OUT TO THE
FIGHTS IN THE COURTS.
THE HOUSE IS DOING THE PEOPLE'S
WORK.
THEY ARE PASSING BILLS AND
CONDUCTING THE KIND OF
CONSTITUTIONAL OVERSIGHT THAT
SHOULD BE CONDUCTED BY A COEQUAL
BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
I THINK YOU CAN WALK AND CHEW
GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
>> Shannon: FINAL WORD.
>> THEY HAVEN'T PASSED A SINGLE
BILL THAT HAS PASSED THE SENATE.
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
>> NANCY PELOSI IS SLOW WALKING
THIS STUFF, SHE WANTS THE
POLITICAL BENEFITS OF BEING ABLE
TO RAIL AGAINST THE PRESIDENT
WITHOUT THE COST OF HAVING TO
