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First story of the day!
Actually the only story of the day--
Some really, really messed up stuff.
If the reports are to be believed, Canadian-based
game developer Digital Extremes is threatening
to sue a 17 year old fan of the game for providing
information to the game's dedicated community
that Digital Extremes doesn't want them to
know about!
Earlier this week a reddit user dippy93 noticed
that the 17 year old fan's information repository
had been suddenly removed!
Immediately the comment section exploded with
worry of censorship by Digitial Extremes.
FTC Publik said to the agreement of hundreds
of upvotes and even reddit gold, Quote!
"You can tell how there's a transparency problem
when a community relies so heavily on datamines
just to understand the game they play.
If the data Void_Glitch uncovered was actually
available in the game proper, like it should
be, we'd never have a need for his work in
the first place.
You shouldn't have to rely on a datamine to
understand how a weapon works.
You shouldn't have to rely on a datamine to
understand how a mechanic works.
You shouldn't have to rely on a datamine to
understand how an item is acquired.
You shouldn't have to rely on a datamine to
play a game.
This is an upsetting move from DE.
Considering how lax they've been towards him
in the past I'm hoping this is just DE's legal
team overstepping their bounds, but it doesn't
exactly send a good message.
"We won't fix our ----, but we won't let you
fix it either".
Edit: With this and melee Rivens on the horizon
I think it's time for either a break or a
boycott.
Edit: Also, thank you for the gold!
If only I could pay off DE's lawyers with
this..."
Oooh!
Shade thrown!
Whirblewind said:
Going the lawyer route to shut down pro-consumer
resources before giving your community the
transparency they expect is how you leave
a bad taste in everyone's mouth and alienate
customers.
This needs to be reversed FIRST, then addressed
to our satisfaction.
Being so close to the OpenIV fiasco will not
work out well for DE if they don't act very
fast.
And to only open a channel of communication
after lawyering up and being called out and
not before?
Unreal.
Whirble's referring to a recent backlash Grand
Theft Auto 5 has inflicted on themselves by
outlawing mods to their game!
This lead to huge strikes of their popularity
on Steam satisfaction ratings and only after
their stocks plummeted did they reach a speedy
compromise.
The comments continue to put Digital Extreme
on blast for this shady business move:
ChaosMandaris said this:
People, this is bad news.
We want to see the shit DE pulls and we need
Void's work for that.
Blissful_Altruism followed that with:
Agreed.
I started seeing it when DE was purging certain
files from being read client side (like caches
and sab missions) but to fully remove all
info, in an RNG game where DE is known for
pulling ---- like a .17% chance drop rates...
I don't like this at all.
I am not saying they will suddenly become
corrupt, but transparency is honesty, and
a Datamine is complete transparency
The forma fanatic and recently award receiving
fan himself, Forma Addict, stepped up to say:
Even ignoring bull---- drop rates and intentionally
----ty RNG:
Remember Kubrow eggs when Chesa was released?
There was a ---- up where found-eggs could
not give Chesa Kubrows, only bought-eggs had
Chesa as a possible outcome.
Dataminers found the mistake.
If there had been no datamining, Chesa Kubrows
would still be exclusive to Platinum or trading
(which basically means Platinum).
Having content locked behind a paywall...
That's serious.
But in comes tgdm, host of tennoclocknews,
dropping the mic with this informational haymaker:
See also:
Archwing parts being completely removed from
missions (quick edit to clarify for newer
players: before they were moved to syndicates,
some parts were just just straight up removed/missing
for months)
New Prime updates missing entirely from reward
tables / abysmal drop rates
Patch notes claiming a reward is available
at X but it turns out it's at Y instead
Stats on any and all Exalted weapon types
Confirmation on enemy stats for scaling calculations
Confirmation on alt fire / secondary damage
factors for various weapons/attacks
And every other case that falls under the
omission / oversight umbrella
All of those comments so supported by the
fans of the game, ended up receiving reddit
gold.
And these are just a small sampling of the
pages of comments this one post had received
and their are many more like it.
But like with Grand Theft Auto's mistake with
OpenIV, community manager DE Rebecca swooped
in with some damage control:
For almost 3 years we turned a blind eye knowing
that the parts of the community found value
in these things.
Then our unreleased quest scripts got datamined
which we spoke on in this subreddit - we encouraged
people not to read it and continued working
on what we hoped would remain a surprise.
Then Umbra Screenshots and Primed Streamline
screenshots appeared.
Then we investigated how those things came
to be.
Then our blind eye was forced to act when
our game was being directly affected in extremely
dangerous ways.
Right now I'm trying to figure out a way to
have the transparency people valued still
exist somewhere (maybe the Wikia, still figuring
it out)
so you can see this isn't an attempt to enter
an era of %.000001 Mods.
With the Relics we added rarity colours to
the Prime Parts as well as a fleshed out Codex
so we're making progress (however slowly).
Side note on that relic rarity--that was ONLY
added after repeated requests for people to
do that on reddit.
So yer missin' a little detail there, but
movin' on!
Most of us farm the same RNG with you, so
we always have people with perspective when
it comes to being fair free-to-play.
I understand if jaded industry views lead
you to assume the worst - but the above is
the truth and our evidence forced us to act.
Apologies for any undue stress caused.
That appears to be some awkward wording of
things that could come across to some like
buzzword double speak to try and douse the
flames and throw the blames in any direction
hoping the outcries will just stop.
It seems the fan of the game on reddit sensed
this very thing and even though she's by far
the most loved member of the Digital Extreme's
crew, this comment of hers did NOT receive
reddit gold.
So there's the word from the company.
What about the accused?
The troubled fan in question, the well intentioned
young man at the center of this blistering
controversy responded to her directly, quote
Rebecca,
Is there any way that we could come to a compromise
on which information is allowed to be published
on GitHub and which information is not?
You must understand that the only reason I
ever uploaded those files in the first place
was because Warframe, the game itself, failed
to outline or explain such information.
Maybe uploading Languages.bin is it a bit
excessive, but there is mass desire for DropTables
and MissionDecks as I am told.
Under your legal constraint, I cannot actually
upload without fear of a lawsuit, but I only
do this to help the community, not to damage
your game or to slander your company.
It was not even me who used Excalibur Umbra
and Primed Streamline.
Digital Extremes assumed it was related to
me and punished me for it.
It was an indirect offense.
Please consider having a discussion (whether
that be through e-mail or Reddit PMs) with
me on what is appropriate, because the community
seems to be really disappointed with the manners
of how Digital Extremes is handling my situation
right now, as I am not a malicious force.
While under the gun the kid still openly and
willingly aimed to aid Digitial Extremes during
this inflammatory time.
Then like the proverbial olive branch, Rebecca
replied back moments later!
I have sent you a PM via reddit.
And just like that, the day was saved!
Everything went back to normal and not word
of this event has---
Oh wait, no?
During an interview with squidthesid, it was
revealed that the private message in question
was nothing more than an instruction!
And instruction to speak to their lawyers!
What the hell, Digital Extremes?!
Is that how you handle things in Canada?
Throw minors to lawyers?
The interview went on to clarify the young
fan in question had no direct ties to either
of the two main incidents Digitial Extremes
is blaming him for.
Squid: The issues that triggered legal action
were Umbra and Primed Streamline.
Can you tell us more about the situations
and how you were involved?
VG: I can not explain how they were done,
as I do not have my head wrapped around the
entire process myself, but I will say that
I did not condone nor influence anyone to
commit exploits that would impact the public
Warframe servers.
VG: I, myself, did not perform these exploits.
Squid: But what happened?
People managed to access this content early
and abuse the game?
Rebecca said it was screenshots, but was it
more than that?
VG: Well, the reason they targeted individuals
was because of the screenshots.
Of course more had to have happened to even
have Excalibur Umbra and Primed Streamline
in-game.
It was not a glitch.
Squid: Right So, what happened was that some
individuals got access to this locked content
illegitimately, screenshots were taken, and
because you had data mined this information,
you were sent a legal letter despite not being
involved, not sharing your techniques, and
not condoning the actions Am I correct?
Void replies: Yes
By this point content creators in the Warframe
community started to cover the subject, namely
Quiette Shy and Brozime.
Zeem?
I'm getting conflicting reports it might be
"Zeem" but it looks like "lime" so I'm goin'
with "Zime"
But!
Not was all sunshine and gumdrops in Twitterland!
As it was about to have a storm of epic proportions!
When asked why he wasn't talking about the
single biggest scoop Warframe has had in recent
years,
the original subscriber giant who stopped
officially covering the game a year ago said
this:
The Warframe community bumbling around on
the topic of data mining.
Just move on the the next controversy.
Truth be told, i make LESS Warframe content
because its just one big angry circle jerk
where you either agree with the mob or gtfo
And as you can clearly see, he's so upset
with the warframe community
hasn't made a video for the game in quite
some time.
It just keeps going.
And going.
Man when does it end?
Im not going to tell ANGRY people what they
want ot hear for views and likes I am my own
person and Im tired of the Warframe mob mentality
This line of tweets got the ear of Ms Shy
who fired back a warning shot
oh boy, hope it wasn't a jab at me, coz im
my own ----in person as well, sayin what i
think as well, and i think void should go
----in free
Me-ow!
Quite the firecracker that one.
He quickly took a step back from the firey
minx saying
it has nothing to do with you, im talking
about people ASKING me to make a video agreeing
or my channel is irrelevant.
fuck them
And I thought that already happened when he
only came back to Warframe for the views,
but then Shy said out of the blue
THANKS ROB MY WHOLE TWITTER TIMELINE IS ----ED
Woah, what's going on there?
It seems the always-right ever-defender of
all things Digital Extremes has ever done
and stereotypical cliche Californian personified
Warframe content creator AGGP has a little
bone to pick with fellow creators Brozime,
MG Blaze, and any fans of the game that do
not complete agree with him.
Blaze posts a link to the interview on reddit,
and immediately AGGP starts strawmanning and
argument spinning:
lol this is the one where he admits to datamining
umbra and primed streamline, read closely
kids!
Brozime
You do realize that that does have anything
to do with the people who force added that
stuff to accounts in-game right? it's not
magic
Rob
Except for the fact that he datamined the
info that lead to the force adds.
You rip the weed at the root, not at the tip.
Better take his word on that one, Mr. Zime.
Based on his content alone, he's got the highest
mastery rank of all of us in how to handle
the root and tip.
Bro
So just because someone tells you about an
unreleased shirt you can't have if you steal
it it's tehir fault not yours?
Rob
If that unreleased shirt is found within hidden
their house and you give them the blueprints
to go get it it definitely is
...What the ---- is he even say--
Bro
Even if he directly knows who did teh Umbra/PStreamline
stuff that's not something HE did.
Knowing a bank-robber doesn't make you one.
Rob
Driving them to the bank DOES make you an
accomplice though
Blaze with an oddly arousing icon:
You seriously think that reading some client-side
file contents is like acting as a getaway
driver for a ----ing bank robbery?
Rob
No no its like DRIVING them to the bank
So let's make it official!
UBER and Lyft are now accessories to all crimes
ever created since they've come to exist!
Skipping ahead on the cringe fest, Rob continues:
LOL we'll see what happens when the lawyers
get to it.
You seem to e an expert in things you have
no professional training in.
And Mr. Zime chime in again, droppin' the
bomb with
Yea go ahead and post that degree in law you
have just sitting around.
BOOOM!
Deco chimes in asking how embarrassing it
must be to be steamrolled
to which AGGP replies
LOL Deco I'm still standing here, and no one's
been able to take me down.
Sad their collective IQ's haven't manage to
out argue.
Amazing how he can edit any build videos at
all through all that narcissism.
This back and forth continued for a long,
long, long LONG time
and AGGP had no problem trying to start it
up again in the morning.
As far as this current event goes with Digital
Extremes and the kid they are threatening
to sue, it is still on-going and any mention
of it anywhere is polarizing.
This whole thing has gotten crazy and some
folks have even suggested to wear FreeVoid
t-shirts under their jackets to reveal it
at TennoCon
and even ask Digital Extremes directly about
this during the question and answer portion
of the event just weeks away.
You'd think they'd want to avoid bad publicity
so close to their fan appreciation event,
but hey, Black Market riots broke out for
PAYDAY 2 in an eerily similar fashion, so
maybe history is just repeating itself?
And that's just the beginning!
You have both official comments, fan comments,
content creator comments and summaries.
TL;DRs.
It doesn't appear to be stopping any time
soon!
...But this video is because it's been goin'
on for quite some time.
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