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>> Adrienne: GOOD EVENING, I'M
ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.
>> Andrew: AND I'M ANDREW
CHANG.
>>> TONIGHT A VIOLENT POLICE
ENCOUNTER CAUGHT ON CAMERA.
>> GET OFF HIS NECK!
>> Andrew: ACCUSATIONS OF
EXCESSIVE FORCE AFTER AN OFFICER
IS SEEN KNEELING ON THE NECK OF
A VANCOUVER MAN, WITNESSES
SCREAMING FOR POLICE TO STOP.
>> Adrienne: FOREST FIRES RAGE
ACROSS NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO.
MORE PEOPLE DESPERATE TO GET OUT
AS FIREFIGHTERS BATTLE FOR
CONTROL.
>> Andrew: IF YOU THOUGHT THAT
THE AMERICANS WERE THE ONLY ONES
WITH A LOOMING ELECTION, THINK
AGAIN.
>> THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHICH
IS WORSE, KEEPING THEM AND THIS
GOVERNMENT IN PLACE?
OR GOING INTO AN ELECTION?
>> Andrew: THE BLOC QUÉBECOIS
THREATEN TO TRY TO FORCE AN
ELECTION HERE OVER THE "WE"
CONTROVERSY.
CAN THEY PULL IT OFF?
>> WE'VE THOUGHT OF EVERY SECOND
OF A CHILD'S DAY.
>> Adrienne: AND MASKS, FACE
SHIELDS AND PLEXIGLAS PODS, A
FIRST NATIONS BACK-TO-SCHOOL
PLAN THAT LEAVES NOTHING TO
CHANCE.
>>> THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Andrew: TONIGHT WE ARE ONCE
AGAIN TALKING ABOUT ALLEGATIONS
OF EXCESSIVE FORCE AND THE
POLICE.
TOUCHING ON A VERY RAW NERVE.
>> Adrienne: IT BEGINS AS SO
MANY STORIES HAVE THIS YEAR -- A
FORCEFUL ARREST CAUGHT ON CAMERA
BY WITNESSES, THIS TIME IN
VANCOUVER.
>> I CAN'T BREATHE!
GET OFF MY NECK!
>> GET OFF HIS NECK.
>> GET OFF MY NECK!
>> GET OFF HIS FUCKING NECK.
>> Adrienne: THE IMAGE OF AN
OFFICER KNEELING ON THE NECK OF
A SUSPECT, ALL THE MORE
PROVOCATIVE AFTER GEORGE FLOYD
WAS KILLED ON A MINNEAPOLIS
STREET, HELD DOWN BY POLICE.
>> Andrew: NOW CBC NEWS
OBTAINED THREE SEPARATE
RECORDINGS MADE BY WITNESSES OF
THE ALTERCATION.
IT ALL STARTED WHEN POLICE SAW A
MAN ON A BICYCLE ALLEGEDLY
BREAKING A CITY BY-LAW.
TINA LOVGREEN SHOWS US HOW IT
ESCALATED.
>> I CAN'T BREATHE.
PLEASE -- PLEASE HELP ME!
>> Reporter: THIS IS A FEW
MINUTES INTO A VIDEO SHOT BY
WITNESSES LATE LAST NIGHT.
SHOWING THE ARREST OF A
35-YEAR-OLD MAN.
>> GET OFF HIS NECK!
>> YEAH, GET OFF MY NECK!
>> Reporter: VANCOUVER POLICE
SAY THEY
WERE TRYING TO STOP THE MAN
AFTER A BY-LAW INFRACTION.
THEY SAY HE IGNORED THEM AND
TRIED TO FLEE AND PUNCHED
OFFICERS IN THE FACE MULTIPLE
TIMES.
>> THEY IMMEDIATELY THEY GOT OUT
OF
THE CAR AND SLAMMED HIM AGAINST
HERE.
>> Reporter: DAVID MATITAL AND
HIS
FRIENDS WERE COMING HOME WHEN
HAY SAW POLICE CRUISER DRIVING
DOWN THE STREET WITH NO LIGHTS
ON.
>> THE BICYCLE DROVE BY US AND
THE COPS WERE IN HOT PURSUIT.
THEY DROVE DOWN THIS ROAD HERE
AND TRIED TO RUN THE GUY OVER A
FEW TIMES.
THEY COULDN'T -- THEY COULDN'T
DO IT AT LIKE NORMAL SPEED
BECAUSE THERE'S CARS ON BOTH
SIDES.
SO THEY JUST GUNNED IT AND HE
WENT OVER THE HOOD OF THE CAR.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT'S
WHEN HE AND HIS FRIENDS STARTED
RECORDING.
>> TWO OFFICERS GET OUT OF THE
POLICE CAR AND IMMEDIATELY START
THROWING PUNCHES AT THIS MAN WHO
IS NOT RESISTING.
>> Reporter: THE MAN SOMEHOW
ENDS UP IN THE CRUISER'S FRONT
SEAT.
>> GET OUT OF THE CAR, ASSHOLE.
>> Reporter: AND THE ENGINE
STARTS REVVING.
POLICE SAY THAT THE MAN WAS
TRYING TO STEAL THE CAR.
>> GET OFF THE STREET.
>> Reporter: MOMENTS LATER
MORE OFFICER ARRIVE AND ONE USES
A TASER.
>> A TASER!
>> AH!
>> Reporter: THE MAN, WHO HAS
NO FIXED ADDRESS ACCORDING TO
POLICE, IS IN CUSTODY AND
THEY'RE RECOMMENDING MULTIPLE
CHARGES.
THE VIDEO DOESN'T SHOW THE
CONTEXT OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE
OR WHY POLICE REACTED THIS WAY.
>> THE KNEE ON HIS NECK -- WHY?
THE ASSAULTING AND THE PHYSICAL
FORCE THAT IS USED
WHEN HE IS NOT RESISTING THEM.
SO THOSE ARE VERY INEXPLICABLE
PIECES OF THIS VIDEO.
>> IT WAS DEEPLY TRAUMATIC.
THAT'S A PERSON.
HE COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD -- FOR
WHAT?
WHAT COULD HE HAVE POSSIBLY
DONE?
>> Reporter: THE WITNESSES
HAVE REPORTED THE INCIDENT TO
THE POLICE COMPLAINT
COMMISSIONER AND AN
INVESTIGATION HAS BEGUN.
TINA LOVGREEN, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Adrienne: THE WILDFIRE THAT
WE TOLD YOU ABOUT LAST NIGHT IN
NORTHERN ONTARIO IS GROWING IN
SIZE AND THREAT.
THE RESIDENTS OF RED LAKE CAN
SEE THE SMOKE FROM THEIR TOWN.
OFFICIALS SAY THE FLAMES ARE NOW
JUST THREE KILOMETRES AWAY.
THIS IS A REMOTE COMMUNITY ABOUT
500 KILOMETRES NORTHWEST OF
THUNDER BAY.
THAT'S ONE OF SEVERAL TOWNS AND
THE CITIES WHERE EVACUEES ARE
BEING TAKEN TO SAFETY.
BUT AS KAREN PAULS TELLS US,
EVEN OUT OF THE DANGER ZONE
PEOPLE ARE WORRIED.
>> Reporter: JUSTIN HUETLER IS
AMONG THE HUNDREDS OF RED LAKE
RESIDENTS SETTLING INTO THUNDER
BAY HOTELS AS THEY WAIT FOR NEWS
OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
HAPPENING AND THAT'S THE WORST
PART OF THE FEAR, THE UNKNOWN.
>> Reporter: WATER BOMBERS AND
HELICOPTERS AND GROUND CREWS
WITH PUMPS AND HOSES ARE
BATTLING A FIRE THAT IS SHIFTING
WITH THE WIND AND STILL NOT
UNDER CONTROL.
IT'S NOW WITHIN THREE KILOMETRES
OF RED LAKE AND THE ACCESS
HIGHWAY.
THE RED AREA SHOWS ITS
PERIMETER.
>> THE STRATEGY FOR TODAY IS TO
PROTECT
THE NORTH AND THE WEST FLANKS OF
THAT FIRE THAT ARE NEAREST TO
THE HIGHWAY AND THE COMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: 3,800 PEOPLE HAVE
ALREADY BEEN EVACUATED BUT NOT
EVERYONE IS LEAVING, INCLUDING
DOCTORS AND NURSES AT THE LOCAL
HOSPITAL.
>> IN OUR MEDICAL TRAINING WE
DON'T NECESSARILY GET
SPECIFICS ON HOW TO HANDLE THESE
SITUATIONS.
>> Reporter: THIS DOCTOR
GRADUATED FROM MEDICAL SCHOOL
JUST ONE MONTH AGO.
SHE'S SLEEPING AT THE HOSPITAL
WHICH IS EMPTY AFTER ALL OF THE
PATIENTS AND THE RESIDENTS IN
LONG-TERM CARE WERE SENT TO
OTHER COMMUNITIES.
>> WE HAVE SATELLITE PHONES AND
WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED GO BAGS
IN CASE WE HAVE TO SERVICE
PEOPLE IN OTHER PLACES OTHER
THAN THE HOSPITAL.
CERTAINLY, WITH THE FIRE BEING
AS UNPREDICTABLE AS IT IS, WE
KIND OF HAVE TO BE READY FOR A
VARIETY OF SCENARIOS.
>> Reporter: OTTAWA SAYS THE
PANDEMIC IS ALSO COMPLICATING
THE EVACUATION OF NEARBY FIRST
NATIONS, THREATENED BY FOREST
FIRES.
>> WE'RE PROVIDING THE SUPPORTS
AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE PROPER
EVACUATION PROTOCOLS TO ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE STAY SAFE.
>> Reporter: BACK IN THUNDER
BAY, THE EVACUEES ARE STAYING IN
A PROTECTIVE PANDEMIC BUBBLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW COVID-19 IS THE
LEAST OF JUSTIN HUETLER'S
CONCERNS.
>> WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT WE GET
THE RELIEF AND THE LUCK THAT WE
NEED TO GO HOME TO A HOUSE, YOU
KNOW, THAT ISN'T ASH.
>> Reporter: THAT LUCK MAY
COME IN THE FORM OF RAIN IN THE
FORECAST FOR TOMORROW.
KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.
>> Reporter: IN BRAZIL,
PRESIDENT BOLSONARO IS
ONCE AGAIN DENYING THE EXISTENCE
OF FIRES IN THE AMAZON, EVEN AS
HIS OWN GOVERNMENT SAY THAT
THOUSANDS OF THEM ARE BURNING.
HIS OWN GOVERNMENT'S DATA SHOW
10,000 FIRES HAVE BEEN RECORDED
IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
BOLSONARO DISMISSES THE NUMBERS
AS A LIE, ADDING THAT IF SOMEONE
WERE TO FLY OVER THE REGION THEY
WOULDN'T SEE A SINGLE FLAME.
>>> A DEADLY TRAIN DERAILMENT IN
SCOTLAND TODAY SENT SMOKE
BILLOWING INTO THE SKY.
AMBULANCES RUSHED TO THE SCENE
OUTSIDE OF ABERDEEN.
AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE DIED AND
WHILE SIX OTHERS ARE SAID TO BE
SERIOUSLY HURT.
THERE WERE ONLY 12 PEOPLE ON THE
PASSENGER TRAIN AT THE TIME.
WHILE THE CAUSE IS UNDER
INVESTIGATION, IT IS BELIEVED
HEAVY RAINS AND A POSSIBLE
LANDSLIDE MAY HAVE BEEN FACTORS.
>> Adrienne: AND IN THE UNITED
STATES, JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA
HARRIS HELD THEIR FIRST JOINT
CAMPAIGN EVENT IN DELAWARE
TODAY.
THEY SPOKE OF DEMOCRATIC UNITY
AND A RETURN TO NORMALCY, EVEN
THOUGH THE EVENT ITSELF FELT
ANYTHING BUT.
SUSAN ORMISTON EXPLAINS.
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>> Reporter: AWKWARD, THIS
PANDEMIC CAMPAIGN, A QUIET
KICKOFF IN A NEAR EMPTY SCHOOL
GYM.
AND A POLITICAL LOVE-IN BETWEEN
TWO FORMER RIVALS.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I
CHOSE KAMALA IS BECAUSE WE BOTH
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DEFINE
AMERICA SIMPLY IN ONE WORD --
POSSIBILITIES.
>> Reporter: HARRIS ACCEPTING
HER SECONDARY ROLE.
>> JOE, I'M SO PROUD TO STAND
WITH YOU.
>> Reporter: KAMALA HARRIS
SKETCHED OUT HER BIRACIAL
BACKGROUND -- JAMAICAN FATHER
AND SOUTH ASIAN MOTHER WHO TOOK
HER TO CIVIL RIGHT PROTESTS WHEN
SHE WAS IN A STROLLER.
>> WE'RE EXPERIENCING A MORAL
RECKONING WITH RACISM AND
SYSTEMIC INJUSTICE THAT HAS
BROUGHT A NEW COALITION OF
CONSCIENCE TO THE STREETS OF OUR
COUNTRY, DEMANDING CHANGE.
AMERICA IS CRYING OUT FOR
LEADERSHIP.
>> Reporter: SHE BLAMED TRUMP
AS WELL FOR THE DISASTROUS
COURSE OF THIS PANDEMIC.
>> THE CASE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP
AND MIKE PENCE IS OPEN AND SHUT.
>> Reporter: THE BIDEN-HARRIS
TICKET HAS ENERGIZED DEMOCRATS.
A RECORD $26 MILLION RAISED IN
24 HOURS SINCE HARRIS WAS ADDED,
TRUMP TRYING TO DRIVE A WEDGE
AND CALLING HER MEAN AND NASTY.
>> President Donald Trump:
THERE WAS NO ONE MORE INSULTING
TO BIDEN THEN SHE WAS.
SHE SAID HORRIBLE THINGS ABOUT
HIM, HORRIBLE THINGS.
AND SHE MOCKED HIM, OPENLY
MOCKED HIM.
>> WE WELCOME THE FIGHT.
>> Reporter: LEAH DOTRY, A
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST, SAYS THAT
THEY'RE READY FOR SEXIST OR
RACIST ATTACKS TO COME.
>> WE ARE IN A POSITION NOW AND
FIRED UP TO TAKE ON THE COMMENTS
AND THE COMMENTERS AS THEY COME
AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND
THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE
THAT KIND OF DISCOURSE AT THIS
MOMENT IN TIME.
WE ARE DONE WITH IT.
>> Reporter: SO MASKS OFF,
MASKS ON, THE DEMOCRATIC
HOPEFULS FOR 2020 AND THEIR
SPOUSES BEGIN TO SHAPE THIS
SURREAL CAMPAIGN.
>> Adrienne: SO, SUSAN, THE
HARRIS PICK IS ATTRACTING A LOT
OF ATTENTION.
WE HAVE BEEN HEARING SOME SAYING
THAT SHE MIGHT TOTALLY ECLIPSE
BIDEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
SO HOW IS THAT PLAYING OUT?
>> Reporter: COMMENTATORS ON
THE RIGHT ARE SAYING THAT TRUMP
SHOULD BE ECSTATIC THAT HARRIS
WILL OVERSHADOW BIDEN AND SHE
WAS A FAILED PERSON IN THE
PRIMARIES WITH LITTLE SUPPORT.
BIDEN MADE IT CLEAR TODAY THAT
SHE IS THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO
RUN FOR THE SECOND MOST
IMPORTANT JOB, BUT IT'S GOING TO
BE A DELICATE DANCE.
SHE'S CLEARLY COMFORTABLE WITH
THE ATTACK.
AND MANY AMERICANS
BELIEVE THAT A VOTE FOR BIDEN
THIS TIME IS REALLY A VOTE FOR
HER AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
IN 2024.
>> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, SUSAN,
THANK YOU FOR THIS.
>>> THAT JOE BIDEN CHOSE KAMALA
HARRIS ISN'T JUST SEEN AS A
VICTORY FOR AMERICANS OF COLOUR,
HER RISE IS ALSO BEING
CELEBRATED IN HER MOTHER'S
HOMELAND OF INDIA.
TODAY HER UNCLE SHARED HIS PRIDE
FROM NEW DELHI.
>> AND HER SISTER AND HER MOTHER
WOULD HAVE BEEN
HAPPY AND THRILLED WITH HER
DAUGHTER.
IT'S A GREAT DAY FOR THE
INDIAN COMMUNITY.
>> Adrienne: HE SAYS THAT HIS
PHONE HAS NOT STOPPED RINGING
SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY
AND IN HER DAD'S HOMELAND OF
JAMAICA, EXCITEMENT AND HUMOUR.
KAMALA HAS A JAMAICAN FATHER,
TWEET THIS IS HUMAN RIGHTS
LAWYER.
AS FAR AS JAMAICANS ARE
CONCERNED, WE WILL BE VICE
PRESIDENT.
KAMALA HARRIS ALSO HAS
SUBSTANTIAL TIES TO THIS
COUNTRY, SPENDING MUCH OF THE
1970s IN MONTRÉAL WHERE SHE
GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL.
NOT THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT THAT
MUCH.
ALISON NORTHCOTT EXPLORES HER
CANADIAN CONNECTION.
>> Reporter: KAMALA HARRIS
WENT TO WESTMOUNT HIGH SCHOOL
WHILE HER MOTHER, A CANCER
RESEARCHER, TAUGHT AT McGILL.
>> HER SMILE AND HER GENEROSITY,
SHE WAS A NICE PERSON.
>> Reporter: THIS FORMER
SCHOOLMATE SAYS THAT HIGH SCHOOL
EXPERIENCE LIKELY HELPED SHAPED
WHO HARRIS IS TODAY.
>> THAT SCHOOL AT THE TIME THERE
WAS A LOT OF JAMAICANS AND
PEOPLE FROM BARBADOS AND INDIA
AND CHINESE, JUST LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE OF THE MULTICULTURALISM
AND HER ABLE TO SPEAK WITH
PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS, I THINK THAT MOLDED
HER VERY WELL FOR THE POSITION
SHE'S IN NOW.
>>> SHE HAS BEEN QUITE QUIET
ABOUT HER
CANADIAN EXPERIENCE.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT
LIKELY WON'T CHANGE DURING THE
ELECTION.
>> BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY GET
HER MUCH POLITICALLY OR IT
DOESN'T REALLY SORT OF ENHANCE
HER KIND OF POSITION OR HER SORT
OF POSTURE IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
>> Reporter: BUT HE DOESN'T
THINK THAT HER POLITICAL RIVALS
WILL USE IT AGAINST HER EITHER
SINCE SHE WAS BORN IN THE U.S.
>> THERE IS NO POPULAR HOSTILITY
TOWARDS CANADA IN THE UNITED
STATES THAT ONE COULD TAP INTO.
>> I WAS RAISED TO TAKE ACTION.
>> I DIDN'T GROW UP SEEING
SOMEBODY
THAT LOOKED LIKE ME IN THE
POLITICAL EYE AND THAT HIGH UP
IN OFFICE.
IT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME.
IT'S TRULY GOING TO BE
REVOLUTIONARY AND IT'S GOING TO
INSPIRE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE TO
GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS.
WOMEN OF COLOUR, YOUNG GIRLS
LIKE ME WHO DIDN'T THINK THEY
HAD A SHOT.
>> Reporter: ALTHOUGH HARRIS'
WORK AS CALIFORNIA'S ATTORNEY
GENERAL HAS BEEN CRITICIZED BY
SOME PROGRESSIVES, SOME SAY THAT
SHE WOULD STILL APPEAL TO MANY.
>> IT'S BEEN QUITE A JOURNEY,
THESE NEARLY FOUR YEARS WITH THE
CURRENT OCCUPANT IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
>> Reporter: REVEREND
DR. RHONDA BRITON IS FROM THE
U.S. AND LIVES IN HALIFAX.
>> TO SEE A BLACK WOMAN CHOSEN
FOR THIS POSITION IN THE LAND IS
AFFIRMING TO THE MOVEMENT, AND
IT SAYS SOMEONE IS LISTENING.
>> I WOULD SAY GOOD LUCK AND
DON'T LET THEM PUSH YOU AROUND.
>> Reporter: THEY'RE CONVINCED
HARRIS CAN HOLD HER OWN,
EVEN IF SHE HAS A TOUGH
POLITICAL FIGHT AHEAD.
ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS,
MONTRÉAL.
>> Andrew: WELL, TODAY THE
LEADER OF THE BLOC QUÉBECOIS PUT
THE LIBERAL MINORITY GOVERNMENT
ON NOTICE.
YVES-FRANÇOIS BLANCHET SAYS HE'S
READY TO BRING IT DOWN OVER ITS
HANDLING OF THE "WE" SCANDAL.
BUT AS EVAN DYER EXPLAINS, A
FALL ELECTION IS NOWHERE NEAR A
SURE THING.
>> Ryan: TODAY THE BLOC LEADER
SAID THAT HE'S READY TO BRING
THE HAMMER DOWN ON THE TRUDEAU
GOVERNMENT UNLESS THE PRIME
MINISTER, HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND
HIS FINANCE MINISTER, ALL LEAVE
THEIR POSTS.
>> WHICH IS WORSE -- KEEPING
THEM AND THIS GOVERNMENT IN
PLACE?
OR CREATING A TEMPORARY
DISTORTION IN THE MANAGEMENT OF
THE CRISIS IN GOING INTO AN
ELECTION?
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY
COMMUNICATIONS WITH "WE" CHARITY
OR THE KILBOURNE BROTHERS IN THE
MONTH OF MARCH?
>> NO, WE DID NOT.
>> Reporter: AS LIBERAL
CABINET MINISTERS TESTIFIED
BEFORE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON
THE "WE" AFFAIR, CANDIDATE ERIN
O'TOOLE
WAS ALSO MUSING TODAY ABOUT A
VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE.
>> I THINK THAT THIS IS A TIRED
AND SCANDAL-PLAGUED ETHICALLY
CHALLENGED GOVERNMENT THAT SOON
NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT OF ITS
MISERY.
>> Reporter: BEFORE THE TALK
OF BRINGING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT,
CAN THE OPPOSITION REALLY DO IT?
AND DO THEY REALLY WANT TO?
>> WELL, THE CONSERVATIVES ARE
THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION BUT THEY
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SEATS TO BRING
DOWN THE GOVERNMENT ON THEIR
OWN.
THEY NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE
BLOC QUÉBECOIS AND THE NEW
DEMOCRATS AS WELL TO ALL TEAM UP
AND TO DEFEAT THE
LIBERALS.
>> Reporter: BUT THE
OPPOSITION PARTIES TODAY HARDLY
LOOKED READY TO WORK TOGETHER.
>> WE HAVE AS LITTLE DISCUSSIONS
AS POSSIBLE WITH THE N.D.P.,
WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY
WORTHY OF IT.
>> Reporter: AS THE BLOC
DISPARAGED THE N.D.P., THE
CONSERVATIVES BASHED THE BLOC.
>> IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO BE
LEADING THE PROTESTS BECAUSE THE
BLOC QUÉBECOIS CAN NEVER FORM
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY BACK THE GOVERNMENT AT
TIMES WHEN THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE.
>> Reporter: ALTHOUGH THE
GOVERNMENT HAS LOST SOME SUPPORT
THAT IT PICKED UP DURING THE
PANDEMIC, THE POLLS SUGGEST IF
LAST OCTOBER'S ELECTION WERE
REPLAYED TODAY THAT THE LIBERALS
-- THE CONSERVATIVES MIGHT WELL
EMERGE WITH FEWER SEATS THAN
THEY HAVE NOW.
THE N.D.P. WOULD ALSO STRUGGLE
TO CONSERVE ITS SEAT COUNT AND
THEY ARE ALSO VERY
SHORT OF MONEY.
ONLY THE BLOC MIGHT HAVE A
MOTIVE TO REALLY WANT A NEW
ELECTION AND ALONE THE BLOC
CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
EVAN DYER, CBC NEWS, GATINEAU,
QUÉBEC.
>> Andrew: ANDREW SCHEER
MARKED A MILESTONE TODAY.
IT WAS HIS LAST TIME IN THE
HOUSE OF
COMMONS AS LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.
HIS FINAL QUESTION TO CHALLENGE
THE PRIME MINISTER TO SUE HIM
FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT
TRUDEAU ACCUSED HIM OF
CORRUPTION.
>> AFTER NEXT WEEK MY CALENDAR
IS WIDE OPEN.
COULD THE PRIME MINISTER PLEASE
TELL ME WHEN I CAN EXPECT TO SEE
HIM IN COURT?
>> Reporter: THE PRIME
MINISTER WASN'T IN THE HOUSE
TODAY THOUGH.
SCHEER'S REPLACEMENT AS
CONSERVATIVE LEADER WILL BE
DECIDED IN JUST OVER A WEEK'S
TIME.
>> Adrienne: SO NOW LET'S
CHECK IN ON CANADA'S FIGHT
AGAINST COVID-19.
BRITISH COLUMBIA RECORDED 85 NEW
CASES.
THAT'S THE LARGEST DAILY JUMP
SINCE APRIL.
AND THE LATEST SIGN THAT THE
PROVINCE ONCE HELD UP AS A MODEL
OF COVID CONTROL COULD BE
SLIPPING BACKWARDS.
HERE ARE THE OTHER NOTABLE
FIGURES.
16 NEW CASES IN MANITOBA.
121 IN ALBERTA.
AND 95 EACH IN QUÉBEC AND
ONTARIO.
TODAY ONE CORNER OF ONTARIO
JOINED THE REST OF THE PROVINCE
WITH STAGE THREE OF ITS
REOPENING.
THE WINDSOR-ESSEX REGION HAD
BEEN HELD BACK IN PART BECAUSE
OF OUTBREAKS ON FARMS.
JASON VIAU LOOKS IF THOSE ARE
REALLY UNDER CONTROL.
>> TODAY DEFINITELY FEELS LIKE
CHRISTMAS DAY FOR ME.
>> Reporter: GYMS CAN FINALLY
OPEN THEIR DOORS IN THIS REGION
FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE MARCH.
THIS OWNER TOOK ON GOVERNMENT
LOANS TO STAY AFLOAT.
>> IT'S BEEN A BIG STRUGGLE AS A
BUSINESS OWNER, TO BE FRANK.
>> Reporter: RESTAURANTS CAN
NOW SERVE PEOPLE INDOORS, BUT
THIS BREAKFAST SPOT HAD TO SLICE
ITS CAPACITY BY HALF.
>> IT'S A NEW WAY OF LIVING.
I MEAN, ALL OF THIS IS NEW TO
EVERYONE.
IT'S DEFINITELY TAKING A TOLL ON
US EMOTIONALLY AND TO OUR
BUSINESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
JUST GOING TO GET BACK IN THERE.
>> Reporter: AS MUCH AS SMALL
BUSINESS THAT IS STRUGGLING.
THIS CASINO, WINDSOR'S SECOND
LARGEST
EMPLOYER WITH 2,300 WORKERS WAS
ALLOWED TO REOPEN TODAY BUT
DIDN'T.
THE CASINO WAS ASKING THE
PROVINCE TO AMEND THE 50-PERSON
CAP FOR A CASINO LIKE CAESARS
WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF FLOOR
SPACE.
>> WE ARE ALLOWED A 6% CAPACITY.
AND IN DETROIT THEY HAVE A 15%
CAPACITY.
AND I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE TO
THE UNITED STATES, HOWEVER, YOU
KNOW, 6% IS STILL ON THE LOW
END.
>> Reporter: BUT IN RECENT
WEEKS IT IS FARMS THAT HAVE BEEN
THE MAIN FOCUS OF COVID-19
CONCERNS.
MORE THAN 1,100 WORKERS TESTED
POSITIVE, ABOUT HALF OF THE
TOTAL CASES IN WINDSOR-ESSEX.
THE LOCAL MEDICAL OFFICER OF
HEALTH SAYS THAT SITUATION
APPEARS TO BE UNDER CONTROL WITH
JUST NINE NEW CASES REPORTED
TODAY, NONE OF THEM FROM FARMS,
BUT ONE MIGRANT WORKER ADVOCATE
SAYS THAT MANY ISSUES REMAIN.
>> THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME
EMPLOYERS DOESN'T WANT TO TEST
THEIR WORKFORCE BECAUSE IF THE
WORKERS TESTED POSITIVE, IT
MEANS
THAT THEY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN
THEIR OPERATIONS AND
PRODUCTIVITY.
AND IN SOME CASES SHUT DOWN
THEIR OPERATIONS.
>> Reporter: ONTARIO PREMIER
DOUG FORD HAS PLEADED WITH FARM
OWNERS TO COOPERATE AND THEIR
WORKERS TO GET SWABBED, BUT
ONTARIO HEALTH TELLS CBC NEWS
THAT ONLY 55 OF THE REGION'S 176
FARMS HAVE OPTED FOR THE
VOLUNTARY TESTING.
SOMETHING THAT ESCOBAR SAYS IS A
BIG PROBLEM.
JASON VIAU, CBC NEWS, WINDSOR,
ONTARIO.
>> Andrew: B.C. IS HIRING 500
EXTRA PEOPLE ON A TEMPORARY
BASIS TO HELP WITH CONTACT
TRACING.
>> WE EXPECT MANY WILL BE
RETIRED NURSES AND OTHER HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONALS, AS WELL AS
RECENT GRADUATES.
>> Andrew: THEIR JOB WILL BE
TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO TEST
POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS TO FIND
OUT WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN AND WHO
THEY MIGHT HAVE COME INTO
CONTACT WITH.
ALL WITH A VIEW TO CURBING
COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION.
>> INDIGENOUS SERVICES CANADA
WILL PROVIDE $305 MILLION IN
ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS TO
COMMUNITIES.
>> Andrew: THAT'S NEW FUNDING
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES TO FIGHT
COVID-19.
OTTAWA SAYS THAT IT WANTS TO
SUPPORT LOCAL INITIATIVES THAT
HELP
TO MANAGE THE PANDEMIC, BOTH
ON-RESERVE AND FOR ORGINISATIONS
SUPPORTING THOSE LIVING OFF
RESERVE.
>> Adrienne: THE COUNTDOWN TO
THE CLASSROOM IS ON.
>> WE HAVE A GUN TO OUR HEAD
SAYING TAKE YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL.
>> Adrienne: UP NEXT, THE
ANXIETY, THE UNCERTAINTY, AND
THE PRESSURE THAT SOME PARENTS
AND TEACHERS ARE FEELING.
>> I DON'T MY KIDS TO HAVE A
RESPIRATORY PROBLEM OR A HEART
PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF
A DECISION THAT I MADE.
>> PEOPLE SAY WE'RE GOING TO THE
EXTREME HERE, BUT I THINK THAT
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR
CHILDREN IS PARAMOUNT.
>> Andrew: PLUS, THE LENGTHS
THAT ONE FIRST NATION IS GOING
TO KEEP THE CLASSROOMS SAFE.
>> SO THESE ARE THE SUGAR CUBES,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL THEM
YOUR CAGE.
>> Adrienne: AND EXPERT
ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, FROM
CHANGING BUBBLES TO CHANGING
YOUR KIDS' CLOTHES, OUR DOCTORS
ON YOUR CLASSROOM CONCERNS.
SPECIAL BACK-TO-SCHOOL COVERAGE
RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK.
WE'RE BACK IN TWO.
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>> Adrienne: KEEPING KIDS OUT
OF CLASS IN THE SPRING WAS A
CHALLENGE FOR MANY PARENTS, BUT
PREPARING TO SEND THEM BACK IS
PROVING TO BE A MINEFIELD.
WITH THE COUNTDOWN NOW ON, THERE
IS FEAR, THERE'S ANXIETY, AND A
WHOLE LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT
WHAT THAT RETURN WILL LOOK LIKE
AND WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN.
EVEN TODAY DATES SHIFTED.
BRITISH COLUMBIA OUTLINED ITS
NEW BACK-TO-SCHOOL PLAN, PUSHING
BACK THE START DATE.
BUT AS SUSANA da SILVA TELLS
US, THAT IS NOT FIXING ALL OF
THE CONCERNS.
>> Reporter: IT'S A PROSPECT
THAT HAS LED TO MANY A SLEEPLESS
NIGHT.
>> I FEEL AS PARENTS THAT WE
HAVE A GUN TO OUR HEAD SAYING,
TAKE YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL DESPITE
WHAT YOU'RE FEELING.
>> Reporter: THIS FAMILY SAY
THEY
SIMPLY DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
WITH B.C.'S PLAN FOR A FULL-TIME
RETURN TO CLASSES, EVEN WITH THE
TWO-DAY DELAY TO THE START OF
THE YEAR.
>> WE DON'T KNOW THE LONG-TERM
EFFECTS.
I DON'T WANT MY KIDS
TO HAVE RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS OR
HEART PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.
>> WE CAN'T SACRIFICE 18 MONTHS
OF EDUCATION.
WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DO
THINGS SAFELY DURING THIS
PANDEMIC.
>> Reporter: TEACHERS WILL BE
BACK SEPTEMBER 8TH, STUDENTS
BACK BY SEPTEMBER 10th FOR
ORIENTATION.
>> I THINK THAT IT IS WISE AND
YOU REALLY NEED TO BE IN THE
PHYSICAL
SPACE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SPACES
WE ARE GOING TO APPROPRIATE FOR
CLASSROOMS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO
DISTANCE KIDS, HOW ARE WE GOING
TO IMPROVE VENTILATION, STAGGER
LUNCH BREAKS AND COHORT CLASSES,
ALL OF THIS TAKES A LOT OF
PLANNING.
>> Reporter: CIRCUMSTANCES ARE
DIFFERENT IN EVERY COUNTRY BUT
THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED
AND MISTAKES TO AVOID.
DENMARK SUCCESSFULLY RETURNED TO
CLASSES IN THE SPRING, FOCUSED
ON PHYSICAL DISTANCING, EVEN IF
IT MEANT NEW VENUES, SMALL
GROUPS AND OUTSIDE ACTIVITY.
ISRAEL IS A CAUTIONARY TALE WHEN
THE SCHOOLS REOPENED WITH NEXT
TO NO PRECAUTIONS IN THE SPRING,
THE COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION WAS
LOW.
>> WE HAD A KID THAT IS A SUPER
SPREADER.
AND BECAUSE OF IT WE HAVE, LIKE,
150 KIDS THAT WERE
INFECTED, LIKE 25 TEACHERS.
WE HAD LIKE 25 SCHOOLS THAT WERE
CLOSED.
>> Reporter: WHILE MEXICO WAS
TAKING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
APPROACH, NO IN-PERSON CLASSES
YET AND ALL BROADCAST INSTEAD ON
MAJOR TV NETWORKS.
EVERY COUNTRY, EVEN CITIES ARE
UNIQUE, SAY HEALTH OFFICIALS,
BUT THERE IS FEAR ABOUT
EVERYWHERE.
IN TORONTO THAT PUSHED SOME TO
PROTEST.
>> THIS GOVERNMENT IS MAKING A
DECISION NOT TO FUND SAFE
SCHOOLS FOR OUR CHILDREN.
>> Reporter: SOME WORRY THAT
NO AMOUNT OF PLANNING WILL BE
ENOUGH.
SUSANA da SILVA, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Andrew: IN ONTARIO THERE'S
SUPPOSED TO BE MORE TEACHERS AND
CUSTODIANS AND NURSES TO HELP
THE SCHOOLS TO DEAL WITH NEW
COVID SAFETY PROTOCOLS.
BUT AS DEANA
SUMANAC-JOHNSON TELLS US, IT'S
ONLY GETTING UNDERWAY.
>> Reporter: BY THE TIME THAT
THESE SCHOOLS REOPEN THEY WILL
LOOK QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT.
TO MAKE THE PARENTS OF
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FEEL SAFER,
THIS ADMINISTRATOR SAYS THAT A
LOT MORE TEACHERS WILL HAVE TO
BE HIRED THAN THE PROVINCE-WIDE
FUNDING OF $35 MILLION ALLOWS.
>> IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE
CLASS SIZES SOMEWHERE IN THE
NEIGHBOURHOOD OF 15 OR 20
STUDENTS, WE WOULD CERTAINLY
NEED MORE THAN THE FULL AMOUNT
THAT THE PROVINCE HAS PROVIDED.
>> Reporter: AND WITH THREE
WEEKS LEFT UNTIL SCHOOL STARTS,
TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
THIS YOUNG TEACHER LOOKING FOR
WORK HAS SEEN JUST A HANDFUL OF
POSTINGS.
>> YOU WOULD HOPE THAT THE
HIRING PROCESS IS DONE PROPERLY,
EQUITABLY AND FAIRLY.
THAT TAKES TIME.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S
ENOUGH TIME.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE ALSO
NURSES TO BE HIRED AND DEPLOYED
TO SCHOOLS.
AND TODAY AN UPDATE.
>> WE HAVE A CALL OUT RIGHT NOW
FOR NURSES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
FULFILL THE 500 POSITIONS
WITHOUT DRAINING FROM THE
SYSTEM.
>> Reporter: THE REGISTERED
NURSES' ASSOCIATION OF ONTARIO
WELCOMED THE IDEA THAT PUBLIC
HEALTH UNITS WILL BE IN CHARGE
OF HIRING THEM.
>> FOR THEM TO HAVE THE CAPACITY
TO ASSIST BUT THEN TO BE
EMBEDDED IN THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC
HEALTH UNITS SO THEY'RE PART OF
THE TEAM, RIGHT?
IT WILL BE TREMENDOUS.
>> Reporter: AND A PLAN TO
HIRE 900 EXTRA CUSTODIANS ARE
FURTHER ALONG.
AND JOBS HAVE BEEN POSTED, BUT
THERE ARE CONCERNS.
>> 900 CUSTODIANS SOUNDS LIKE A
LOT OF PEOPLE BUT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT 4,
SCHOOLS ACROSS THE PROVINCE.
THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE
CLEANING WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR
STUDENTS.
800 ROWM IN THE PAST WEEK
PREMIER DOUG FORD SAID THAT HE
WOULD CONSIDER
GIVING MORE MONEY AND TIME FOR
SCHOOLS TO REOPEN SAFELY BUT NO
FIRM COMMITMENTS WERE MADE AS
THE PROVINCE, THE SCHOOL BOARDS,
AND THE FAMILIES LOOK AT THE
TRICKIEST ACT OF PANDEMIC LIFE
YET.
DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: IN SASKATCHEWAN,
ONE FIRST NATION IS TAKING ITS
COVID PREVENTION MEASURES TO A
WHOLE OTHER LEVEL TO TRY TO KEEP
ITS STUDENTS HEALTHY.
BONNIE ALLEN SHOWS US WHAT
BACK-TO-SCHOOL WILL LOOK LIKE ON
PASQUA FIRST NATION.
>> Reporter: ONLY AUTHORIZED
VISITORS ARE ALLOWED INTO PASQUA
FIRST NATION THESE DAYS.
>> HI, GOOD MORNING.
>> HI, HOW ARE YOU?
>> Reporter: THE TIGHT KNIT
COMMUNITY OF 800 PEOPLE HAVE NOT
HAD A SINGLE CASE OF COVID-19,
STILL AT THE LOCAL SCHOOL THE
CHIEF MATTHEW PEGAN SAYS THAT
200 STUDENTS WILL FACE STRICT
MEASURES FROM DAY ONE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO DO STEPS.
IF THERE'S A CASE, THIS IS WHAT
WE'LL DO.
IF THERE'S TWO CASES THIS IS
WHAT WE WILL DO.
WHY CAN'T WE PREVENT IT RIGHT
AWAY AND THE IMMEDIATE AND GO TO
THE EXTREME?
>> Reporter: THE CLASS SIZES
WILL BE CUT IN HALF WITH 15
STUDENTS AT MOST IN A ROOM.
THEY'LL ALTERNATE DAYS, LEARNING
VIRTUALLY FROM HOME EVERY OTHER
DAY.
AND EACH GLASS HAS A PLEXIGLAS
BARRIER.
>> AND SO THESE ARE THE SUGAR
CUBES.
WE ARE PLAYING AROUND WITH WHAT
WE'LL NAME THEM SO THAT STUDENTS
WILL WANT TO SIT AT THEM.
WE WON'T CALL THEM YOUR CAGE.
>> Reporter: THEY OWN A
MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT HAS
BEEN ABLE TO BUILD THE PLEXIGLAS
BARRIERS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.
>> THEY'RE TELLING US WHAT THEY
NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND
WE'RE RAPIDLY PROTOTYPING IT
HERE AT THE FACILITY.
>> Reporter: IT MADE
PORTABLE HANDWASHING STATIONS
AND A TOUCHLESS SANITATION STAND
FOR EACH CLASSROOM.
>> AND THEN YOU WIPE YOUR HANDS.
>> Reporter: THE STUDENTS WILL
WEAR DISPOSABLE MASKS ON THE BUS
BUT THE MOMENT THEY ENTER THE
SCHOOL, THEY WILL BE GIVEN A
CLEAN
CLOTH MASK THAT WILL BE COLOUR
HAD OF CODED BY GRADE TO HELP
THE TEACHERS TO KEEP THE GROUP
SEPARATE.
>> I'M EXCITED FOR SURE.
BUT, OF COURSE, STILL A LITTLE
NERVOUS.
>> Reporter: PRINCIPAL
CHRISTINA JOHNS KNOWS THEY CAN'T
CONTROL EVERYTHING.
>> ESPECIALLY THE LITTLE ONES,
KINDERGARTEN AND GRADE ONE WHERE
THEY STILL LOVE TO HUG THEIR
TEACHER.
HOW DO YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT
AND STILL MAKE THEM FEEL LOVED
AND SAFE?
>> Reporter: THE DIRECTOR OF
EDUCATION SAYS THAT AN ELDER
TAUGHT
HER AN IMPORTANT LESSON THAT
SHE'S APPLYING HERE.
>> WE'RE NOT TO FEAR COVID-19.
WE ARE TO RESPECT IT.
>> Reporter: AND THAT'S WHAT
THEY WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN.
BONNIE ALLEN, CBC NEWS, PASQUA
FIRST NATION.
>> Andrew: OKAY, WHEN WE COME
BACK,
ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT MY SON ON
THE FRONT LINES.
>> Andrew: THE ANXIETY AND THE
UNCERTAINTY IS REAL, SO WHAT'S A
SAFE WAY TO GET KIDS BACK TO
CLASS?
NEXT WE GET INTO THE
NITTY-GRITTY, QUESTIONS LIKE, I
HAVE TWO GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE
IN MY BUBBLE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CLOSE CONTACT
OVER THE SUMMER.
ONCE THEY'RE BACK IN SCHOOL WILL
I STILL BE ABLE TO SEE AND SPEND
TIME WITH THEM?
THAT'S A TOUGHIE.
BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
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>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT MY SON ON
THE FRONT LINES.
>> Andrew: IT'S A DILEMMA THAT
SO MANY PARENTS ARE FACING --
WHETHER TO LET THEIR KIDS TO GO
BACK TO SCHOOL DURING A
PANDEMIC.
>> IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL SAFE
ENOUGH TO DO SO RIGHT NOW.
>> Andrew: WHILE SOME SCHOOL
BOARDS ARE PLANNING FOR
STAGGERED CLASS TIMES, AND MASKS
FOR OLDER KIDS, AND PHYSICAL
DISTANCING
SIGNS IN THE HALLWAYS, WILL IT
BE ENOUGH TO KEEP STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS SAFE?
JOINING ME TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS, TWO INFECTIOUS
DISEASES SPECIALISTS, DR. SUSY
HOTA AND DR. SRINIVAS MURTHY.
HELLO TO THE BOTH OF YOU.
DR. MURTHY, MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE
THE
FIRST QUESTION FOR US.
HERE IT IS.
SHOULD THE DOCTORS HAVE THE SAME
ROUTINE WITH TAKING WORK CLOTHES
OFF IN ONE PART OF THE HOUSE AND
IMMEDIATELY WASHING THEM?
>> YEAH, REMEMBER THAT HEALTH
CARE WORKERS CHANGE THEIR
CLOTHES PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY
WERE PROVIDING CARE TO PATIENTS
WITH CONFIRMED OR SUSPECTED
COVID-19.
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION
FROM TEACHERS AND OTHERS WHERE
THE
RISK OF EXPOSURE IS MUCH, MUCH
LOWER.
SO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T
RECOMMEND THAT ALL TEACHERS OR
OTHERS WHO WORK IN SCHOOL TO
TAKE THAT LEVEL OF PRECAUTION TO
CHANGING THEIR CLOTHES AND
WASHING THEM BEFORE AND
AFTERWARDS.
>> Andrew: DR. HOTA, DO YOU
AGREE WITH THAT?
>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE VERY
DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS
IMPORTANT TO
HAVE THAT KIND OF ROUTINE.
>> Andrew: MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE
THIS NEXT QUESTION AS WELL.
HOW EASILY CAN THE VIRUS BE
TRANSFERRED FROM CLOTHING TO
PEOPLE?
SO ALONG THE SAME LINES BUT THIS
PERSON IS SAYING I AM THINKING
SPECIFICALLY
WHEN A CHILD MAY RELEASE
DROPLETS INTO THE AIR WHEN THEY
TALK OR SHOUT OR WHEN THEY
ACCIDENTALLY SNEEZE ON ANOTHER
PERSON?
>> RIGHT.
SO ONE OF THE GOOD PIECES OF
NEWS IS THAT WE'RE LEARNING OVER
TIME THAT
THE VIRUS DOESN'T SEEM TO LAST
ON SURFACES FOR THAT LONG,
PARTICULARLY ON CLOTHING OR
SOFTER SURFACES.
SO FOR THIS TO REALLY BE A
MECHANISM OF GETTING INFECTED
YOU NEED TO BE PRETTY HEAVILY
SOILED ON YOUR CLOTHING WITH
THAT COUGH OR SNEEZE, AND THEN
TOUCH THAT FAIRLY SOON
AFTERWARDS, AND THEN TOUCH YOUR
NOSE, EYES OR MOUTH SO YOU CAN
TRANSFER IT TO SOURCES THAT YOU
GET INFECTED THROUGH.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S POSSIBLE,
BUT IT'S UNLIKELY, ESPECIALLY IF
YOU'RE GOING TO BE WEARING A
MASK WHILE TEACHING.
BUT TO ME IT'S A REMINDER OF HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO CLEAN YOUR
HANDS FREQUENTLY BECAUSE YOU CAN
INTERRUPT THAT CHAIN OF
TRANSMISSION BY WASHING YOUR
HANDS.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
OKAY, DR. MURTHY, MAYBE YOU CAN
TAKE THIS NEXT QUESTION.
IS A STUDENT MORE LIKELY
TO COME INTO CONTACT WITH A
VIRUS IN A SMALL ENCLOSED
CLASSROOM WITH UNMASKED STUDENTS
OR IN AN OPEN HALLWAY
WITH MASKED STUDENTS?
>> SO WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE
LARGE-SCALE SPREADING EVENT IS
THAT CLOSED SPACES, LOTS OF
PEOPLE, POOR VENTILATION, NO
MASKS, ARE ALL SITUATIONS WHERE
TRANSMISSION WOULD BE.
OPEN SPACES WITH MASKS WOULD BE
A LOWER RISK EXPOSURE THAN THE
SMALL ENCLOSED SPACE WITHOUT
MASKS.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE WAYS
OF LIMITING THAT RISK IN THAT
SMALL ENCLOSED SPACE WITH
DISTANCING AND IMPROVED
VENTILATION IN THAT SPACE.
>> Andrew: AND THE DURATION
MATTERS TOO, RIGHT?
YOU'RE SITTING IN A CLASSROOM
LONGER THAN YOU ARE IN A HALL?
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT,
ACTUALLY, INCREASE YOUR RISK.
SO IT'S THE DURATION, THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE, THE CONCENTRATION OF
THE PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM, HOW BIG
THE ROOM IS, ALL OF THAT AS
MENTIONED EARLIER.
SO I THINK THAT TRANSIENT
PASSAGE WITHIN A HALLWAY,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE WEARING
MASKS, SEEM TO BE A FAIRLY LOW
RISK SITUATION COMPARED TO
SITTING IN A CLASSROOM FOR
HOURS.
>> Andrew: OKAY, DR. HOTA,
THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY
IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I HAVE
HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I HAVE TWO GRANDCHILDREN THAT
ARE IN MY BUBBLE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CLOSE CONTACT
OVER THE SUMMER.
ONCE THEY'RE BACK IN SCHOOL WILL
I STILL BE ABLE TO SEE AND SPEND
TIME WITH THEM?
>> THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH
QUESTION.
AND IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE STILL MEANT TO KEEP FAIRLY
SMALL SOCIAL BUBBLES TO LIMIT
THE RISK OF TRANSMISSION.
BUT JUST BY HAVING CHILDREN COME
BACK TO SCHOOL WE'RE INEVITABLY
GOING TO INCREASE THEIR SOCIAL
BUBBLE SIZE.
AND BY EXTENSION THAT CAN APPLY
TO THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
SO, NO, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS
THAT I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE TO
RECONSIDER
WHAT WE DO WITH SOCIAL BUBBLES
AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SCHOOLS
REOPENING.
AND I SUSPECT THAT IS
GOING TO BE GUIDED BY WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN TERMS OF COVID-19
COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION AT THE
TIME.
BUT, OF COURSE, WE'LL TAKE A
LEAD FROM OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
AUTHORITIES.
I WOULD SAY IN THE MEANTIME AS
WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW
THINGS WILL LOOK AS WE REOPEN
SCHOOLS, IT WILL BE STILL BE
POSSIBLE TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF
VISITS, BUT
IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN PHYSICAL
DISTANCING AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW,
HOPEFULLY TO BE OUTDOORS OR IN
SETTINGS THAT ARE LOWER RISK.
>> Andrew: THIS IS A BIG ONE
SO DR. MURTHY, I WANT TO ASK YOU
THE SAME QUESTION -- LIKE, IF
YOU'RE A GRANDPARENT TRYING TO
MAKE THAT DECISION AND A
TEENAGER HAS GONE BACK TO
SCHOOL, IS THE BUBBLE BURST?
I MEAN, YES OR NO?
>> IN A WAY OUR BUBBLES HAVE
EXPANDED BY GOING BACK TO
SCHOOL.
I THINK THAT EVERYONE'S
ASSESSMENT OF RISK IS GOING TO
BE DIFFERENT.
A LOT IS DRIVEN BY HOW MUCH
VIRUS IS OUT THERE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES AND OUR TOLERANCE OF
RISK WILL CHANGE AS THOSE
NUMBERS CHANGE.
>> Andrew: ALL RIGHT, A TOUGH
QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE THOUGH
YOUR ANSWERS TO THEM.
DR. HOTA AND DR. MURTHY, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D
LIKE OUR DOCTORS TO ANSWER, SEND
THEM ON INSTAGRAM
AT @CBCTHENATIONAL OR SEND AN
EMAIL AT COVID@CBC.CA.
>> Adrienne: AND WHEN WE COME
BACK, MAJOR CHANGES TO THE WORLD
WE LIVE IN.
A GLOBAL WARMING EVENT, AN
ICEBERG NEARLY THE SIZE OF
VANCOUVER BREAKS OFF A CANADIAN
ICE SHELF.
>> Andrew: AND AN
INTERNATIONAL EFFORT TO CLEAN UP
A THOUSAND TONNES OF OIL IN THE
INDIAN OCEAN.
THE CANADIANS TRYING TO HELP
NEXT.
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>> Adrienne: THE LAST FULLY
INTACT ICE SHELF IN THE CANADIAN
ARCTIC HAS NOW COLLAPSED IN
NORTHERN NUNAVUT.
IT SAT ALONG THE EDGE OF
ELLESMERE ISLAND FOR 4,000
YEARS.
IN THESE SATELLITE IMAGES TAKEN
JUST
LAST MONTH, MORE THAN 40% OF THE
AREA DISINTEGRATED IN JUST TWO
DAYS.
FOR REFERENCE THAT MASSIVE CHUNK
OF ICE FALLING OFF IS ALMOST THE
SIZE OF VANCOUVER.
EXPERTS SAY CLIMATE CHANGE IS
LINKED TO A DRASTIC DECLINE IN
ICE SHELVES.
>>> AND NOW TO ANOTHER
ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER, THIS
TIME IN MARITIUS.
THE AFRICAN ISLAND NATION
LOCATED EAST OF MADAGASCAR IS
DEALING WITH AN OIL SPILL
ON ITS SOUTHEAST COAST.
MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AGO A SHIP
CARRYING FUEL OIL STRUCK A CORAL
REEF AND IT BEGAN LEAKING LAST
THURSDAY.
NOW OFFICIALS SAY THEY HAVE
MANAGED TO PUMP MOST OF THE
REMAINING FUEL OUT OF THE SHIP
BEFORE IT BREAKS APART, BUT NOT
BEFORE A THOUSAND TONNES SPILLED
INTO THE OCEAN.
AS TASHAUNA REID TELLS US, THE
RACE TO CLEAN UP THE SPILL IS
VERY MUCH UNDERWAY AND THERE'S
HELP FROM CANADIAN VOLUNTEERS.
>> Reporter: 1,000 TONNES OF
THICK OIL RELEASED INTO PRISTINE
WATERS.
THIS JAPANESE SHIP TO BLAME
AFTER IT RAN AGROUND OFF THE
COAST OF MAURITIUS, NOW THE
ISLAND LEFT TO DEAL WITH THE
DISASTER.
HANS DAWOOR FROM VANCOUVER WAS
IN
MAURITIUS VISITING HIS BROTHER
AND NOW HE JOINS THE CLEANUP
EFFORT.
>> FOR MYSELF I GREW UP IN THIS
AREA.
AND NOW I'M SEEING ALL OF THIS
DAMAGE BEING DONE AND BEING
HELPLESS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HELPLESS IN
THIS KIND OF SITUATION.
>> Reporter: COUNTLESS
VOLUNTEERS ACROSS THE COASTLINE
HAVE BEEN RACING TO
SOAK UP THE OIL AND USING
IMPROVISED BOOMS MADE OF SUGAR
CANE LEAVES AND HAIR.
JUST ANOTHER BLOW TO THE
COUNTRY'S ECONOMY IN THE WAKE OF
COVID-19.
>> IT'S A COUNTRY THAT DEPENDS
ON THE TOURISM INDUSTRY WHICH
MEANS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE TOURISM 
COMING IN.
AND THEN THE FISHERMEN, THE ONLY
WAY FOR THEM TO EARN A LIVING IS
TO GO OUT THERE AND TO FISH.
>> Reporter: ANOTHER MAJOR
CONCERN IS THE IMPACT ON
WILDLIFE.
>> TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN
CONTAINING THE SPREAD OF THE
OIL.
THE LONGER IT TAKES TO INSTALL
THE BOOM, THE GREATER THE SPREAD
OF THE OIL.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE
QUESTIONS WHY ACTION DIDN'T COME
SOONER WHEN THE SHIP FIRST RAN
AGROUND 12 DAYS BEFORE THE SHIP
BEGAN TO LEAK.
TODAY THE ISLAND'S PRIME
MINISTER SAID THEY'VE ALMOST
REMOVED ALL OF THE OIL FROM THE
SHIP AND ARE DEMANDING
COMPENSATION FROM THE OWNERS OF
THE SHIP.
HERE IN CANADA, THE MAURITIAN
COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WATCHING THE
SITUATION CLOSELY.
>> WE FEEL THAT WE ARE HELPLESS
BECAUSE WE ARE VERY FAR AWAY.
BUT OUR HEART IS STILL THERE.
>> Reporter: COMMUNITY MEMBERS
ARE WORKING TO RAISE FUNDS TO
SEND A SKIMMER, TO REMOVE THE
OIL OFF THE WATER SURFACE.
>> WE DO THINK THAT IT WILL GET
BETTER.
MAYBE NOT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW,
MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO, BUT WE'LL
COME OUT OF THIS TOGETHER.
>> Reporter: NOW ALL THEY CAN
DO IS HOPE THAT THINGS DON'T GET 
WORSE.
TASHAUNA REID, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," A MOMENT SHARED BY A
COUPLE OF STRANGERS AND THEN
MILLIONS MORE ONLINE.
>> I THINK THAT IT'S NG DURING  THE
PANDEMIC AND WHAT IT COULD MEAN
FOR PUBLIC HIT.
SUBSCRIBE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR
PODCAST.
>> WE HAVE LEARNED THAT SOME
EMPLOYERS HAD PUT THEIR WORK
FIRST, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY
DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE
TESTED.
>> Andrew: THE LACK OF TESTING
AMONG MIGRANT FARM WORKERS IS
ONE REASON FOR WORRY AS
SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF ONTARIO
JOINS THE REST OF THE PROVINCE
IN GETTING TO STAGE THREE OF
REOPENING.
EARLIER THIS SUMMER, JONATHON
GATEHOUSE INVESTIGATED THE STATE
OF TESTING IN LEAMINGTON,
ONTARIO, AND
WHAT THE MIGRANT WORKERS HAD TO
ENDURE.
HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK.
>> Reporter: COVID-19 HAS
TEMPORARILY CLOSED THE DOORS OF
THEIR MEXICAN RESTAURANT, BUT
THE
WORK HASN'T STOPPED FOR SUSANNA
PENNER AND HER DAUGHTER, TONYA.
THEY HAVE BEEN UP SINCE 5:00
a.m., COOKING MEALS FOR MIGRANT
WORKERS.
THEY'LL SPEND THE NEXT TWO HOURS
DROPPING OFF FOOD FOR 400
WORKERS IN THE AREA.
TONYA AND SUSANNA ARE TWO OF THE
FEW PEOPLE ALLOWED ON THE FARMS
DURING THE OUTBREAK.
THEY'RE HEARING THE WORKERS'
WORRIES.
MANY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE STRICT
LOCKDOWNS IMPOSED TO CONTROL THE
SPREAD OF THE DISEASE.
>> SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY
WORRIED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NO
RIGHTS.
THAT EVERYTHING IS TAKEN AWAY
FROM THEM, THAT THEY'RE HERE --
LIKE SOME OF THEM FEEL THAT
THEY'RE PRISONERS.
>> Reporter: LAST WEEK THE
PROVINCE STARTED TESTING MIGRANT
WORKERS AT THEIR FARMS,
PROMISING JOB PROTECTION FOR
ANYONE WHO ENDS UP IN
QUARANTINE.
BUT ONTARIO'S PLAN DOESN'T COVER
UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, AN OPEN
SECRET AROUND TOWN WITH
HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS, IN
THE AREA.
FARM LABOURERS WHO ARE NOT HERE
ON GOVERNMENT PERMITS HIRED
INSTEAD VIA TEMP AGENCIES AND
FLY-BY-NIGHT RECRUITERS WHO
SHUFFLE THEM FROM FARM TO FARM,
TAKING A BIG CUT OF THEIR PAY.
A 24-YEAR-OLD FROM MEXICO DIED
AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR
COVID-19.
HE CAME TO CANADA ON A TOURIST
VISA.
>> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
>> Reporter: THIS MAN WORKED
WITH HIM IN A
GREENHOUSE.
AND WE'RE CALLING HIM "JUAN" TO
PROTECT HIS IDENTITY BECAUSE HE
TOO IS UNDOCUMENTED.
THE JOBS WERE ARRANGED BY A
CANADIAN
RECRUITER, THE WAGES PAID IN
CASH.
THEIR SAFETY IS OVERLOOKED.
>> Reporter: WE STARTED TO GET
SICK, HE SAYS, ALL OF US, BUT
WITH DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS.
WE KNEW THAT WE HAD THE
CORONAVIRUS.
>> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
>> Reporter: THEY ABANDONED ME
AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANYTHING,
HE SAYS.
THE SAME WITH HIM, THEY ALSO
ABANDONED HIM.
SANTIAGO ESCOBAR IS AN ADVOCATE
FOR MIGRANT WORKERS AND HE
ESTIMATES THAT AT LEAST 2,000
FARM LABOURERS IN WINDSOR-ESSEX
LACK THE PROPER PAPERWORK.
>> UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS ARE MORE
VULNERABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE THE STATUS, THE SO-CALLED
LEGAL STATUS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
>> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
>> Reporter: THIS UNDOCUMENTED
MAN IS FROM GUATEMALA.
HE CAME HERE ON A TEMPORARY
FOREIGN WORKER PERMIT, BUT WHEN
IT EXPIRED, HE STAYED.
WE ARE PROTECTING HIS IDENTITY
BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID THAT HE'LL
BE DEPORTED.
IN THE PAST MONTH HE SAYS THAT
HE'S WORKED IN FOUR OR FIVE
DIFFERENT FARMS.
ARE YOU FRIGHTENED THAT YOU
MIGHT GET SICK?
>> NO, NO...
NO, AT THE MOMENT I'M NOT
SCARED, THANK GOD, BECAUSE TO ME
IT DOESN'T EXIST SO FAR, HE
SAYS.
>> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
>> Reporter: AROUND 1,000
WORKERS HAVE TESTED POSITIVE SO
FAR.
BUT THIS NUMBER TELLS US LITTLE
ABOUT
THE HEALTH OF UNDOCUMENTED
WORKERS.
>> IT IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF
BARRIERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT
CURRENTLY DOCUMENT THE AS
WORKERS HERE.
AND THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT IS
THEY DON'T HAVE OHIP COVERAGE SO
THEIR ASSUMPTION IS THAT THIS
TYPE OF TESTING IS NOT AVAILABLE
TO THEM.
>> Reporter: TESTING IS
AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE, BUT THAT
MESSAGE MAY NOT BE GETTING
THROUGH.
SUSANNA AND TONYA HEAR FROM
UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, FEARFUL
NOT OF COVID, BUT OF COMING
FORWARD.
>> THEY'RE SCARED THAT ONCE THEY
FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE AND THAT
THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED, THAT
THEY'LL GET DEPORTED.
>> Reporter: TO MANY IT'S A
CHOICE OF THEIR OWN HEALTH AND
SUPPORTING FAMILY BACK HOME.
THERE'S ALWAYS WORK TO BE DONE,
OFTEN WITH FEW QUESTIONS ASKED.
JONATHON GATEHOUSE, CBC NEWS,
LEAMINGTON.
>> Andrew: NOW THE TWO WOMEN
IN THAT PIECE, SUSANNA AND
TONYA, WHO WERE MAKING ALL OF
THOSE MEALS FOR MIGRANT WORKERS, 
THEY'VE DECIDED NOT TO OPEN
THEIR MEXICAN RESTAURANT JUST
YET, SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T FEEL
LIKE IT'S WORTH THE RISK.
AND THEY ARE STILL IN TOUCH WITH
MANY MIGRANT WORKERS WHO SAY
THAT NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED ON
THOSE FARMS.
>> Adrienne: NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," A MOMENT THAT YOU CAN
GET UP AND DANCE TOO.
>> WE DID THE WOO-HOO AND HE DID
THE WOO-HOO BACK AND THEN WE
DANCED TOGETHER FOR ABOUT 20
MINUTES.
>> Adrienne: SO THIS MAGIC
MOMENT BETWEEN STRANGERS HAS
BEEN SEEN BY MILLIONS ONLINE.
THEIR STORY IS RIGHT AFTER THIS.
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>> Adrienne: DANIEL
OGDGER-STEADMAN
IS JUST 17 YEARS OLD BUT HIS
DANCE MOVES APPARENTLY ARE NOW
LEGENDARY AFTER HE TURNED HIS
CONSTRUCTION JOB INTO A BIT OF A
PARTY.
AND THANKS TO OUR CBC NORTH
COLLEAGUES WHO POSTED AND SHARED
THAT VIDEO, THE VIRAL VIDEO OF
DANIEL DANCING NOW HAS OVER
THREE MILLION VIEWS.
THE STORY BEHIND THAT IS OUR
"MOMENT."
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>> WE PULLED UP TO THE
CONSTRUCTION AND SAW THE SIGN
GUY BREAKING IT DOWN PRETTY
MUCH.
[laughter]
WE KIND OF DID THE WOO-HOO AND
HE DID THE WOO-HOO BACK AND THEN
WE DANCED TOGETHER.
>> WE THOUGHT, OKAY, WHY ARE WE
NOT
VIDEOTAPING THIS?
THIS IS SO FUNNY.
[laughter]
>> SOMEONE LOVES HIS JOB.
>> I THINK WE POSTED IT AND JUST
THOUGHT THAT OUR FRIENDS WOULD
FIND IT REALLY FUNNY.
AND THEN CBC NORTH CALLED AND
PUT IT UP ON THEIRS AND THEY'VE
GOT MILLIONS OF VIEWS NOW.
>> EVER SINCE IT BLEW UP, I JUST
KIND OF KEPT DANCING EVERY
SINGLE DAY.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT ANY VIDEO
WOULD GO VIRAL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE JOKE AROUND IN
COMMENTS AND STUFF SAYING THAT
THE DANCING IS KEEPING THE BUGS
OFF OF ME, BUT IT REALLY DOES.
>> HE HAD A BUG NET ON JUST HIS
HEAD, SO A HAT.
AND FOR SOME REASON HE PULLED IT
UP AND THE WHOLE TIME HE HAD IT
UP.
SO HE HAD -- WITH PEOPLE FEELING
SO DISCONNECTED FROM EACH OTHER,
THERE'S A REAL CONNECTION IN
THAT VIDEO.
I MEAN, DANIEL IS STANDING IN
30° WEATHER WITH A WHACK OF BUGS
DOING A JOB THAT NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE WOULD DESIRE AND HE'S
JUST MAKING THE BEST OF IT.
>> Adrienne: SO HERE'S A
LITTLE SECRET ABOUT THAT --
YES, HE HAD THE BUG NET UP
BOUGHT HE DID THAT BECAUSE HE
WANTED TO SEE THE WOMEN IN THE
CAR.
[laughter]
>> Andrew: SMART GUY.
BUT JUST TO MAKE THE POINT
CLEAR -- THAT AIN'T AN EASY JOB,
RIGHT?
HE'S GOT TO BE STANDING OUT
THERE IN THE HEAT 12 TO 16 HOURS
A DAY WE'RE TOLD, GUIDING THE
TRAFFIC, AN IMPORTANT JOB.
AGAIN, NOT AN EASY ONE.
SO A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THAT
GUY.
>> Adrienne: YOU GOING TO
DANCE?
>> Andrew: NO.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR THIS
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12th.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
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