
Chinese: 
欢迎回来！
今天呢，我们来聊聊五大...
古典音乐的未解之谜与阴谋论
喔——
这频道突然摇身一变，开始聊上阴谋论了
Joe Rogan，小心啦！
是啊，Joe Rogan！
我们是不是应该弄一个那种...
标题党封面
《你不知道的柴可夫斯基的真相》
《西贝柳斯的暗黑秘密！看完我震惊了！》
- 喔...
- 嗯...
《整整流传两世纪！贝多芬真的失聪了吗？》
好啦好啦
我们开始吧
第一个！
莫扎特《安魂曲》
啊哈哈哈哈哈...
莫扎特《安魂曲》
如果你没听过这首《安魂曲》的话
你到底...
你哪来的勇气叫自己古典乐手？
根本不够格看这个频道好吗
先去听《安——
不对，先把这个视频看完
然后再去听《安魂曲》
- 90%的人直接退出了
- 是啊
围绕...
莫扎特的《安魂曲》和他的离世
有很多谜团
因为这首曲子是在他即将离世时写作的
第一个奇怪之处在于

English: 
Welcome back.
Today, we will be talking about the five biggest...
Oh yeah, it's-
This channel's gonna go all conspiracy all of a sudden.
Joe Rogan, watch out!
Yeah, Joe Rogan.
Should we make one of those like,
clickbaity thumbnails? Like...
"The truth about Tchaikovsky."
"The dark secret about Sibelius."
- Ooh...
- *gasps*
"Was Beethoven really deaf?"
Alright, anyway.
Anyway, let's get started.
Alright, the first one!
A ha ha ha ha...
If you haven't heard the Requiem,
what are you even...
do you even call yourself a classical musician?
You don't even deserve to watch this channel.
Go listen to a req-
No, finish this video,
and go listen to a requiem.
- 90% of people just click off.
- Yeah.
So there's a lot of...
mystery and uncertainty surrounding Mozart's Requiem
and his death.
'Cause he actually composed it as he was dying.
So the first thing that was kinda strange was

English: 
Mozart got this from an anonymous commissioner.
Nobody knows who actually paid him to write this piece.
Mm...
A little bit suspicious!
It gets even more sus.
He wrote this piece while he was getting sick.
He was deteriorating health.
That in itself is kind of also a conspiracy 'cause...
no one really knows how Mozart died.
- There's a lot of debates.
- Yeah.
Some people think he was poisoned.
Mozart himself thinks he was poisoned.
Other people thinks he just had some disease.
But then, even then,
- there's a lot of debate to what type of disease he got.
- Yeah.
There's no evidence for this,
but one popular story actually was that
Salieri poisoned him.
Do you know who Salieri is?
He's meant to be Mozart's rival,
though some people said
they were actually close friends, but...
The "narrative" is they were rivals,
and Salieri hated him.
Because, apparently, Mozart was just a lot better.
Oh yeah, a lot more talented.
I think that's why
Mozart himself thought he was getting poisoned.
And it's funny 'cause...
you know, the movie, Amadeus, right?

Chinese: 
莫扎特是由一名匿名人士委托
谁也不知道究竟是谁花钱让他创作的这首曲子
嗯...
有点可疑哦！
而且还有更令人生疑的
*莫扎特在病榻上作曲*
他写这首曲子的时候已经生病了
病入膏肓
这本身就有点阴谋论的感觉，因为...
没人知道莫扎特究竟是怎么过世的
- 有很多争论
- 没错
有些人认为他是被毒死的
莫扎特自己也曾认为自己被下了毒
其他人觉得他是得了某种疾病
不过即便如此
- 关于他得了什么病也有很多争论
- 是的
一个广为流传...
但没有任何证据的说法是
*安东尼奥·萨列里*
萨列里给他下了毒
*安东尼奥·萨列里*
你们知道萨列里是谁吗？
传说中...
*莫扎特与萨列里*
莫扎特的死对头
*莫扎特与萨列里*
但也有人说
*莫扎特与萨列里*
他们其实是好朋友
不过呢...
在这个说法里，他们是宿敌
萨列里恨透了他
因为莫扎特实在比他强太多了
是啊，比他有才太多
我想这可能是为什么
莫扎特自己会觉得他被下毒了
而且很有意思的是...
你知道《莫扎特传》那部电影吧？

English: 
In the movie, they actually portrayed the scene
where Mozart receives the commission
to write the requiem,
and the guy that gave it to him is
Salieri in a black mask...
Ooh...
...symbolising death.
Maybe Salielue-
Salier-
So hard to say the name.
(both) Salieri.
...knew he was gonna die,
and be like "You're gonna die anyway."
"I'm just letting you know."
- Yeah.
- "Write your last requiem."
- Alright, but this is not just it, alright?
- Yeah.
So Mozart actually never finished it.
He died while composing the Requiem.
It was finished off by a man named...
Brett: So off!
Very off. I'm sorry.
- "Süssmayr."
- But that was Mozart's pupil.
Now here's the thing.
Süssmayr...
No, it's Süssmayr.
- Alright, see this is already sus, right?
- Yeah, Süssmayr. Yeah, Süssmayr.
The Süssmayr.
When he was completing it,
he actually hand copied what Mozart had written up to,

Chinese: 
电影里呈现了这一幕
莫扎特受到委托
来写安魂曲
委托他的人
正是带着黑面具的萨列里
喔...
...象征着死亡
可能萨咧咧——
萨哩哩——
名字好难念哦
（同时）萨列里
...知道他命不久矣
所以就想，“反正你也快死了”
“我就告诉你一下”
- 是啊
- “把最后的安魂曲写了吧”
- 是啊，不过故事到这里还没完
- 嗯
事实上，莫扎特并没有完成这首曲目
在创作的过程中他就去世了
最终是有一位叫做...
*莫扎特与弗朗兹·克萨韦尔·苏斯迈尔*
弗朗兹·噻喔·苏苏梅完成的
Brett：才不是这么念
差太远了，抱歉
- “苏斯迈尔”
- 他是莫扎特的学生啦
重点是...
苏苏梅
不是，是“苏斯迈尔”
- 你看这已经很可疑了
- 是啊，苏斯迈尔
（注：sus为suscipious可疑的，与Süssmayr苏斯迈尔前半部分发音类似）
苏（ke）斯（yi）迈尔
他在完成这首曲子的时候
他手抄了莫扎特已经写完的部分

Chinese: 
然后接上了自己的续作
因此...
在最终的版本里，没有任何证据显示...
- 莫扎特——
- 哪段是莫扎特写的，哪段是他的
有一些...
我读过一些所谓的证据吧
我也不知道它们是真是假
就是说，莫扎特完成到
《落泪之日》的前八小节
也是曲中最著名的一段
就很瘆人，他刚写完这个主题
然后人就没了
不管莫扎特究竟写了多少吧
下面说的这个才是真邪乎
在1950年
- 在布鲁塞尔发现了未完成的手稿
- 没错
其中最后一页被撕掉了
喔...
所以有人在他临终时把它偷走了
- 是萨列里吗？
- 可能哦
他心想“我可不能让他什么好处都占尽了”
没人知道究竟怎样啦，有好多争议
我们唯一能确定的是...
贝多芬说过...
“即便此曲并非莫扎特所作”
“完成它的人也与莫扎特相当”
就是这样啦

English: 
and copied the whole thing.
so there's actually...
in the finished draft, there's no evidence showing...
- that Mozart-
- what was Mozart's and what was his.
There is some...
I have read some evidence,
I don't know how legit it is,
that Mozart composed
up to the first 8 bars of the Lacrimosa,
which is... kind of the most famous one actually.
It's kinda creepy that he just finished that theme,
and then he was gone.
Regardless of how much Mozart actually composed,
here's the real seedy bit, alright?
In 1950,
- the unfinished manuscript was found in Brussels,
- Yup.
and the last page was torn out.
Ooh...
So someone stole it from his death bed...
- Was it Salieri?
- It was Salieri.
He's like "I can't give this guy all the credit."
Nobody knows. There's a lot of controversy.
All that we know is...
Beethoven said...
There you go.

Chinese: 
- 大家谁都不知道真相啦
- 是啊
不过一定要去听听这首曲子
- 嗯
- 跟鬼上身了一样
- 和其他莫扎特的曲子完全不是一个风格
- 没错
因为莫扎特的曲子一般都是...
很轻快的
但是这首安魂曲仿佛死亡一般
就像是有人问，“诶，你还好吗？”
他说，“啊，我要死了”
下一个！
柴可夫斯基《第六交响曲》
是一纸自杀遗书吗？
嗯...
又称悲怆——
悲怆？
- “可悲”交响曲
- 对对，又名“可悲”交响曲
（注：法语和英语中这两个词拼写相似但发音和含义有所不同）
我以前真是这样以为的
- 哦，“可悲”交响吗？哈哈哈
- 是啊，我真以为就是可悲的意思
因为pathétique曾经有...
引起情感共鸣，类似激昂的意思，对吧？
我知道它意思更像是激昂交响曲
我们就叫它“可悲怆”交响曲吧
这是柴可夫斯基最后一部交响曲
第六部，没错
对，然后...
首演九天之后...
他就撒手人寰了
我去...
怎么能卡得这么准？
就说啊！
很多作曲家
在听到他们最后一部交响曲之前就离世了
- 没错，但他听到了
- 但九天之后就...

English: 
- So you never really know.
- Yeah.
But go check out the piece.
- Yeah.
- It is haunting.
- It's not like any other Mozart though.
- Yeah.
'Cause Mozart is usually so like...
light and cheerful,
and there's this freaking requiem that's just like death.
It's like "Yo, are you alright?"
He's like "Yeah, I'm dying."
Next one!
Was it a suicide note?
Mm...
Known as the Pathétique-
Pathétique?
- The Pathetic Symphony.
- Yeah, yeah, known as the Pathetic Symphony.
I used to actually think that.
- Oh, the Pathetic S- Ha ha ha!
- Yeah, I thought that's what it meant!
'Cause pathétique used to mean...
pathos, like passion, right?
I know the meaning means, like, Passionate Symphony.
We'll just call it the Pathetic-tique Symphony.
This was Tchaikovsky's last symphony.
6th one, yup.
Yeah, and then it was...
9 days after it premiered,
he died.
Dude...
How do you time that ****?
Yeah!
A lot of composers
died before hearing their last symphony.
- Yeah, but he actually did.
- But it's like...

English: 
It was just too coincidental.
I know. I think maybe his willpower was just holding on.
He was like "Ugh!"
Or maybe something else happened.
So there has been a lot of theories going on.
During the first performance,
Rimsky-Korsakov asked Tchaikovsky
whether there was a programme to the new symphony.
So by programme, he means
- is there hidden meaning behind the symphony
- Yeah.
- rather than just music for music itself, right?
- Yes.
Yeah. And Tchaikovsky said there was,
but he wouldn't share it.
Mhm.
He basically said it's gonna be a mystery for anyone to guess.
And his quote's like...
I'm like...
"Dammit, Tchaikovsky."
I swear all the composers do this ****.
I know! It's just like
"I'm not gonna give you guys everything, ha ha ha ha."
But here's what gets really interesting.
There's so many stories about how Tchaikovsky died.
But the official "story" that he died was from cholera.
- Basically, cholera- Yeah.
- From drinking tap water, right?
- Unboiled water, just tap water.
- Unboiled water.
Glad we live in good times today.
Which is like, how do you live your whole life...
and then just one day, as a grown adult,
- forget to boil the water and die? That's so sus, right?
- Yeah, the dumbest-

Chinese: 
巧合得有些过分了
是啊，我猜他可能全靠意念强撑着
最后一口气
或者有什么其他的事情发生了
由此就有好多说法
在首演的时候
*尼古拉·里姆斯基-科萨科夫*
里姆斯基-科萨科夫问过柴可夫斯基
*尼古拉·里姆斯基-科萨科夫*
这首新的交响曲是否有任何标题
所谓标题就是说...
- 曲目背后是否有任何隐藏的情节
- 没错
- 而不只是音乐本身
- 是的
嗯，柴可夫斯基回答说是有的
但是他并不想说出来
嗯哼
他大概意思就是，留个悬念你们猜吧
原话是这样讲的...
“（标题）不可言说——
让他们去猜吧”
想说...
“喵的老柴”
我打赌所有的作曲家都玩这套
说得就是啊！全都是...
“就不告诉你，哈哈哈哈哈”
不过更有意思的是这里
关于柴可夫斯基的死因有太多说法了
官方“说法”是他死于霍乱
- 就是说，霍乱——没错
- 因为喝生水
- 没有烧过的生水
- 没烧过的水
哎，我们的生活在一个多么好的时代啊
但这就很——作为一个成年人...
多少年都一直烧水，怎么会有一天
- 突然忘记然后就死了呢？就很可疑啊
- 对啊，最蠢的——

English: 
- That's the dumbest reason to die.
- Yeah.
And right after the premiere of the last symphony.
Yeah, like...
If it was a freak accident,
- like something happened.
- Yeah.
Okay.
But something within his control, with his like...
- habits.
- Mhm.
How do you forget to just boil water?
- If you've been boiling water your whole life.
- Yeah.
- So that's a bit suspicious already.
- Mhm.
He had symptoms of "chlorea" after the premiere.
Cholera.
Cholera.
Whatever, but...
he also refused for doctor to examine him.
Really?!
That's suspicious.
Why would he not want a doctor to look at him?
Yeah.
It's like, he just wants to die. He doesn't want to...
reveal what's actually happening.
Like he died on the bathtub, saying
he wants to be left alone, all that stuff.
Yeah.
There's a few theories out there
why Tchaikovsky's-
- would have "committed suicide."
- Mhm.
One of those says
"Back then the cholera disease"
"brought death only in the worst cases,"
"which is not his case."
Alright?
"An expert witness working in British National Poison Unit"
"stated that..."
"The reported symptoms of Tchaikovsky's illness"
"fit very closely with 'arsenic poisoning.'"

Chinese: 
- 真的是愚蠢至极的死因
- 没错
而且就刚好在最后一首交响曲首演之后
对啊
假设是一场意外
- 比如什么事故
- 嗯
可以理解
但如果是一件在他掌控范围内的事
- 像他的习惯
- 嗯
怎么可能会刚好忘记烧水呢？
- 如果你过去一直烧水
- 对啊
- 这就有点令人生疑了
- 嗯嗯
在首演后，他有“霍烂”的症状
霍乱
霍乱
都行啦，重点是
他拒绝了医生检查
真的吗？！
这就值得怀疑啊
为什么他不让医生来给他看病呢？
嗯
就好像他在寻死一样，他不想...
揭露事实真相
好像他在浴缸里死去
说想自己一个人待着，类似这种
嗯
也有一些说法
讲到柴可夫斯基
- 其实可能是“自杀”
- 嗯
其中一个是这样说
“在当时——
只有最严重的霍乱病例才会死亡”
“但他不是这种情况”
嗯
“一位英国国家毒物中心的专家证人”
“写到...“
”柴可夫斯基的病状“
“和砷中毒的症状十分相像”

Chinese: 
- 哦，真的假的？
- 嗯
- 所以他们的意思是并不是霍乱
- 对
- 他们是这么说的
- 没错
但这就和柴可夫斯基是同性恋
这个背景正好吻合
那个年代比较不合法...
不是比较不合法
- 在俄罗斯就是不合法
- 是的
是啊，世界上绝大多数地方...
- 都形势严峻
- 全世界当时大概都如此
所以...
这件事很可能，我想非常有可能
对他心理影响很大
- 嗯
- 他甚至还假结婚
他的婚姻是设计好的
为了让大家不再八卦他的爱情生活
是啊，显然...
他们的婚姻只维持了六周
- 哎唷
- 大哥他真的尽力了
太心酸了！
我想他真的...
- 为了生存啊，那个年代
- 是啊
他必须强迫自己
事实上，这里讲到...
“他爱上了...”
*柴可夫斯基和弗拉基米尔·达维多夫*
“弗拉基米尔·达维多夫”
达维多夫？
嗯嗯
他的外甥
只能说，为了写出好音乐嘛
你想干嘛都行
哈哈哈哈我不评价
- 我不评价啦
- 我没资格指指点点啦
只能说...
- 老柴，您的“菜”是谁无所谓，只要您喜欢
- 没错
有一个流传很广的说法是...
当然啦没有什么实质性的证据
人们还在——

English: 
- Oh... Really!?
- Mhm.
- So they're saying it isn't cholera.
- Mhm.
- That's what they're saying.
- Yeah.
But this ties in quite well to the context of the situation
Tchaikovsky was gay.
That at the time was very illegal...
Not very ille-
- It was just illegal in Russia.
- Yeah.
Yeah, most- a lot of the world...
- was very harsh, yeah.
- The whole world was like that. Probably, yeah.
So...
that probably, I think most probably
played a mental game with him.
- Mhm.
- And he even faked a marriage.
His marriage was designed
to stop people gossiping about his love life.
Yeah, actually, apparently...
they were only married for six weeks as well.
- Bro.
- Bro, he tried.
That is rough!
I mean he just gotta...
- I guess it's survival, right? Back then.
- Yeah.
He had to try his best.
And in fact, it says here:
"He was in love with Vladimir Davydov."
Davydov?
Uh-huh.
His nephew.
I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do
to create good music, so-
Ha ha ha ha! I won't judge.
- I won't judge!
- I'm not one to judge, but...
whatever...
- floats your cup of Chai Tea, Tchaikovsky.
- Yeah.
One of the popular theories...
And again, there's no hard evidence,
people are still-

Chinese: 
音乐学家还在研究
就是说他是被赐死的
为了保全他的尊严
对，法庭要求他自杀
因为他们发现了...
他的...
- 同性恋取向
- 对
他们不想让这件事被更多的人知道
因为毕竟柴可夫斯基
在俄罗斯可是位标志性人物
如果你细品，这个说法...
更为可信
更有道理
大家可能会觉得
“哎，其实是你们想多啦”
“过度解读这件事”
我想说的是，在我看来
最有力的线索藏在音乐中
说回他的第六部交响曲可能是自杀遗书
因为不仅仅是说
它作于——
我是说，它首演于柴可夫斯基死前九天
它是唯一一部
以如此压抑的第四乐章
- 对
- 作为结尾交响曲
唯一一部这样的柴可夫斯基的交响曲，如果我没说错的话
是啊，不是凯旋式的结尾
第三乐章是凯旋式的
那种预料之中交响曲尾声的样子

English: 
musicologists are still looking to it,
is that he was actually ordered to kill himself.
The order like, to restore his honour.
Yeah, the court ordered him to kill himself
because they found out about...
his...
- homosexuality.
- Yeah.
And they didn't want that to become famous
because, you know, Tchaikovsky was a icon-
like a figure within Russia.
But you think about it, that narrative...
is a lot more believable.
That makes a lot more sense.
Before you guys go like
"Oh, maybe these guys are just thinking to much,"
"overthinking it."
I think, to me,
the biggest clue is in the music.
Tying back to with his 6th symphony suicide note, right?
Because it's not just the fact that
it was written-
I mean, it premiered 9 days and then he died, but...
it is the only symphony
that ends on such a depressing...
- Yeah.
- 4th movement.
The only Tchaikovsky symphony, if I'm correct.
Yeah, it's not like triumphant.
The 3rd movement, and it's very triumphant.
It's the ending that you would expect from a symphony.

English: 
- And that's why everyone claps afterward.
- Everyone claps. They're like
- "Oh yeah! WOO!!"
- It sounds like an ending.
And then boom! Out of nowhere,
the final movement is actually the most tragic sounding...
almost sounds like a requiem.
- It sounds like... death.
- Yeah.
And that's why
when you take all that into account,
it's very... like...
It's such a shame...
Tsk. Very tragic...
Alright, how's this one?
This one's for you music nerds out there.
What is the Enigma?
Oh!
Some of you might not know it,
but I'm sure all of you have heard this before.
It's basically a collection of 14 variations and a theme.
But it has become popularly known as
the Enigma Variations, because...
It is believed...
That there is a hidden...
Theme that goes throughout the piece.
And here is the thing, right?
Nobody knows what the theme is,
Elgar said there was a theme but he didn't tell people,
just like Tchaikovsky.
Ah! It's so annoying!
- He's like...
- He's like, "you guys figure it out."
"Oh, you guys guess it out."
And to this day...

Chinese: 
- 所以这就是为什么大家都会在之后鼓掌
- 全体鼓掌，所有人都是
- “哦耶！！喔！！”
- 听起来就全曲终了
结果突然之间，出乎所有人的意料
最终的乐章奏响，如此悲凉哀伤
仿佛是安魂曲一样
- 听起来就像是...死亡
- 是的
这就是为什么
当你考虑到所有这些
这说法就很可信了
多么可惜啊
哎，太悲剧了
好啦，来下一个吧
这一条送给所有的音乐小学霸们
埃尔加《谜语变奏曲》
这谜语是什么呢？
喔！
有些同学可能不知道这首曲子
不过大家应该都听过
这部作品由14段变奏和主题构成
不过呢
它被广泛地称作《谜语变奏曲》，因为...
传闻中...
有一条暗藏的...
主题隐匿于整首曲子中
重点来了
没人知道这主题是什么
埃尔加说有一条暗线但他没有告诉任何人
和柴可夫斯基一样
嗷讨厌啦
- 他就...
- “你们研究去吧”
“噢，你们自己猜咯”
直到今天

English: 
People have theories
but no one has conclusive answer to it.
All right, some background context.
It - Uh...
Elgar loved...
Codes.
He wrote this thing called the Dorabella Cipher.
Just coded a letter to his friend.
Why not?
In the premiere of the Enigma Variations, he wrote...
So that's the real...
Hidden theme.
So the famous opening theme...
Da la da la da la — That's not the actual enigma theme.
There's another theme that goes on throughout, right?
So, later on...
Elgar gave six conditions...
To the theme.
- Dude...
- All right?
There's a theme...
He made a counterpoint to it...

Chinese: 
人们有很多推测
但并没有确凿的答案
先介绍下背景吧
怎么说呢
埃尔加热衷于...
密码
他写过一个东西叫Dorabella密码
用密码写了一封信
闲着也是闲着
在《谜语变奏曲》的首演后他写到...
“我不会去解释这个谜”
“这其中的‘暗语’不能点明”
“我想提醒你的是”
“变奏和主题之间联系千丝万缕却不着痕迹”
“此外，有一个更大的主题贯穿整首曲目”
“但它并没有被演奏出来”
这里指的就是...
暗藏的主题
所以那段著名的开篇主题...
哒啦哒啦哒啦——并不是真正的谜语主题
贯穿全曲的其实是另一个主题
后来...
埃尔加给出了六个条件...
关于这个主题
*1. 谜语主题和基本主题构成对位*
- 嚯...
- 嗯
有一个基本主题
埃尔加创作了一段曲子与它对位

Chinese: 
之后呢，他把这段对位...
隐藏在整首《谜语变奏曲》中
基本主题是听不到的
*2. 基本主题并不出现在该曲中*
但这基本主题很出名
*3. 基本主题很著名*
*4.基本主题的片段存在于变奏曲中*
*5. 基本主题是一段旋律，穿插且覆盖整组变奏曲，包括谜语主题在内*
就大概是可以叠加在这首曲目上面
*6. 谜语主题由第一到第十九小节构成*
所以有19小节
每当有人提出的解答
违背六个条件之一
解答便是无效的
搞得像密室逃脱一样
有些人认为基本主题是《天佑女王》
*尝试解谜的笔记*
*尝试解谜的笔记*
- 有人提出是莫扎特的《布拉格交响曲》
- 噢
*尝试解谜的笔记*
贝多芬的...
*尝试解谜的笔记*
贝多芬的《悲怆》
*尝试解谜的笔记*
还有人说是...
路德教众赞歌《上帝是我们坚固的堡垒》的旋律
我们俩呢...
- 乐理和对位法知识都一般般啦
- 没错
所以没法解密
但如果哪位同学对解密很感兴趣的话
一定要来看看这道题
你知道，每一段变奏

English: 
And that counterpoint is the one he...
Kind of hides throughout the Enigma Variations.
So, kind of can be overlaid on top.
So, 19 bars.
So, anytime anyone came up with a solution that
violates one of these six conditions...
It's invalid.
Dude, it's like an escape room.
Some people think the theme is God Save the Queen.
- Some suggested Mozart's Prague Symphony.
- Ooo.
Beethoven's...
Beethoven's Pathétique.
Some people even suggested...
A Lutheran melody called Ein feste Burg.
Personally, we are not...
- That skilled in music theory and
- Yeah...
counterpoint to figure it out.
But if anyone of you are interested in that type of thing,
definitely check it out.

English: 
You know each variation's written for
a different friend as well, right?
- Wow...
- So it's like coding your friend's personality into music.
What a nerd.
Yeah, like...
He had so much time, that guy.
I love it. Yeah.
All right, next one.
Where is the manuscript?
*Gasp*
It's his biggest project he spent.
All right?
- Like, 20 years composing, yeah.
- Really?
And he never really officially published it.
- Okay.
- So, the story goes that...
He's always...
Trying to finish it but he just burns it.
- You know, last few pages, just burned it.
- Yeah, I've heard that he just destroyed it.
Why are you destroying it? Just keep it for reference.
- Yeah.
- Like, come on, man.
25 years later, in 1945, he wrote...
Bro...
This guy's such a perfectionist.
- Yeah.
- It's the typical...
Well, he did quit violin.
- He did.
- Cause he was like, "I wasn't good enough."
- But then he composed the Sibelius concerto.
- Yeah, I know.
It's like bro...
Yeah, it's like, dude, I'm pretty sure you're all right.
He wrote almost no music for the rest of his life.

Chinese: 
是写给一位不同的朋友，对吧？
- 哇...
- 类似于把朋友的性格编进了音乐里
真•学霸
哈哈是啊
真闲啊这位大哥
没错哈哈
好啦，下一个
西贝柳斯《第八交响曲》
手稿在哪里？
*(°Д°)*
他为这部曲目殚精竭虑
是的
- 整整二十年
- 真的吗？
却从来没有正式地发表过
- 好的
- 所以，传言是说...
他总是...
试图去完成手稿，但每次都烧掉了
- 你知道，最后几页，就直接烧了
- 是啊，我听说他销毁了那些稿子
为毛要毁掉呀？留着参考嘛
- 是啊
- 干嘛啦大哥
25年后，在1945年他写到...
“我已经多次完成第八交响曲的创作”
“但我依旧不满意”
哎呦...
这家伙真是个完美主义者
- 嗯
- 典型的那种...
是啊，他确实不拉小提琴了
- 的确
- 他觉得自己不够优秀
- 然后转头就写了西小协
- 是啊我知道
就想说大哥...
是啊，我很确定大哥您很优秀好吗
后来他基本没有再进行音乐创作

English: 
And his daughter...
Said that the Symphony 8 did not exist.
So it's weird...
How his daughter said that, but he said he finished it...
And still not satisfied with it, all right?
Did he actually finish it or is he just drinking vodka
- and pretending to be productive but he's just not...
- Yeah, probably. "Ahh! It's in my head."
So you don't really know...
If it's - If he's finished or not, right?
But there's fragments of it found...
...From scholars have been catalogued.
That there were sketches of this symphony....
The ending, but...
Several of the manuscripts have been...
They're just been identified but it's never complete.
No one really knows, like...
Was he just uncomfortable with it...
Was it...
Like he doesn't want to...
Share...
His experiments?
Cause, you know, composers always experiment.
They try things.
After a certain phase.
That's why we have these revolutions in composition.
No one really knows
what his real intention was about this.
So, we actually just found this too.
Literally, two days ago.

Chinese: 
他女儿说...
第八交响曲并不存在
这里就很诡异
为什么他女儿会这样讲，而他本人...
却说过他完成了但是并不满意
他是真的完成了还是一边喝着伏特加...
- 假装努力工作但其实并没有...
- 也有可能啊，“啊呀都在我脑子里呢”
所以人们也不知道...
到底他是否完成了这部作品
不过呢，学者们发现并归档了
这首曲子的若干片段
有一些这部交响曲的草稿...
结尾部分，不过...
有好几版草稿...
被鉴定是这部作品，但是它们都不完整
没有人知道
他只是对作品不满意
或是...
他不是很想...
分享...
他的实验？
因为你知道作曲家总在实验
去尝试新的东西
当他们达到一定阶段的时候
这就是为什么我们会取得音乐创作的革新
没有人知道
关于这首曲目他真正的意图
嗯，我们也是刚刚了解到
也就两天前

English: 
That...
Some musicians...
Tried to recreate...
An idea of what the 8th symphony
would have sounded like...
Based on these sketches that were being identified.
Again, it's tentative, there's no proof that that was...
His intention of the 8th symphony, but...
I don't know, you got to check this out.
- What an opening.
- It's... It's just...
Yeah.
Those harmonies.
- You can tell he is evolving.
- Ah...
Yeah.
He always sought after perfection, um...
His approach to symphony writing is the most...
Structural integrity you can get.
So, in the classical era,
Symphonies were 20 minutes, and then Beethoven...

Chinese: 
就是...
一些乐手...
尝试去复原...
第八交响曲
可能是怎样的
用这些找到的草稿作为基础
当然啦，这只是一种可能性，没有任何证据显示这是...
他本人关于第八交响曲的意图
不过我也说不好，先来听听吧
- 这开端！
- 真的...这实在是...
哎
那些和声
- 你可以感觉到他又上了一个台阶
- 啊呀
是啊
他一直追求完美
他写作交响曲的方式可以说是...
达到了结构完整性的巅峰
在古典时期
交响乐一般20分钟，然后贝多芬...

English: 
Bruckner, Mahler became like over an hour long.
Sibelius was compressing it..
To see how concise...
He can present all the musical ideas.
And his 7th symphony was just 20 minutes.
One movement.
And it's just such a shame...
That we never heard this 8th one
cause I'm so curious what it would sound like.
- 15 minutes or what...
- Maybe he wanted to do it
within 15 seconds, you never know.
Sacrilegious Sibelius.
All right, last...
Meme, I mean, conspiracy.
You guys may have heard about this.
But it's the curse of the 9th.
Ooo...
That's right.
Why did composers always die after the 9th symphony?
Some people did less -
Shostakovich.
Shostakovich did, but he is an exception.
A lot...
- But a lot of them...
- I mean, here's a list, all right?
Schubert died in the middle of writing his 10th.
Bruckner died, his 9th was unfinished.
The list goes on.
To give you a bit of context, before Beethoven...
People wrote a lot of symphonies.

Chinese: 
布鲁克纳，马勒的交响曲发展到了一小时或更久
西贝柳斯则是在压缩乐曲
来探索他如何尽量简洁地
呈现所有的音乐想法
他的第七交响曲只有20分钟
一个乐章
我们永远没办法听到这第八首
实在是太可惜了
因为我真的很好奇它会是怎样的
- 也许15分钟，或者...
- 说不定他打算...
15秒搞定，你也不知道嘛
西贝•亵渎•柳斯
好啦，最后一个...
梗，我是说阴谋论
同学们可能听说过这个啦
就是第九交响曲魔咒
喔...
没错
为什么作曲家总在写完第九部交响曲就死了呢？
有些人写得更少...
肖斯塔科维奇
*肖斯塔科维奇创作了15首交响曲*
肖斯塔科维奇没有，但他是个例外
*肖斯塔科维奇创作了15首交响曲*
很多...
很多...
- 相当多的人都中招了
- 这有个名单
舒伯特在写第十部期间过世
布鲁克纳去世时第九部尚未完成
沃恩·威廉斯
马勒
德沃夏克
施波尔
格拉祖诺夫
等等等等
讲一下大致背景，在贝多芬之前...
大家会写好多交响曲

Chinese: 
海顿写了107部，莫扎特41部
到了贝多芬这里...
这位古典音乐史上承前启后的人物
在写完第九首后便与世长辞
从贝多芬之后
作曲家们写到第九部就...
卒
搞毛啊
一写完第九首就死翘翘了
我不知道我为什么在笑，就这真的...
- 为毛啊？
- 是吧
有好多作曲家们都...
- 吓坏了
- 没错，他们是真怕啊不敢写第九部
比如...
马勒对这个咒语深信不疑
在创作完第八交响曲后
他写了《大地之歌》，其实本质上...
就是交响乐啦
但是他实力拒绝叫它交响曲
而是称之为声乐套曲
之后他写了...
他终于写到了第九首交响曲
有趣的是第九交响曲的结尾部分
听起来就像死亡一样
- 巨长
- 超越生死的感觉
然后他意识到..
哟老子还活着
我打败咒语了！
于是他开始着手第十部，接着就死了
矮油
菲利普·格拉斯...

English: 
Haydn wrote a 107, Mozart wrote 41.
And here comes Beethoven...
This pivotal historic figure in classical music.
And he dies after the 9th one.
And since Beethoven...
People have been dying...
After the 9th.
Like what the ****?
They just drop dead after the 9th one.
I don't know why I am laughing, it's just so like...
- Why?
- Yeah.
There's always stories about composers...
- Freaking out.
- Yeah, they were genuinely scared to write the 9th one.
Some examples, all right?
Mahler was obsessed with the curse and...
After writing his 8th symphony,
he wrote "Song to the Earth", which is basically...
A symphony.
But he refused to call it a symphony
and called it a song cycle.
And then he wrote -
He eventually wrote the 9th symphony.
It's funny cause the end of the 9th symphony
almost sounds like death, right?
- It's freaking long.
- It's like transcendent.
But then he was like...
I'm still alive.
I beat the curse!
So he went to start his 10th one and then he died.
It's like bro...
Philip Glass...

English: 
Wrote his 10th symphony before premiering his 9th.
He's like, "I'm not gonna perform my 9th,
I'm gonna write my 10th first."
This guy was thinking ahead.
Schoenberg even wrote about it, he's like...
Oh my god.
Might be just coincidence.
If there's some actual curse on composers...
- Who knows?
- I also wonder what type of psychological...
Self...
Infliction, they could be doing with this curse.
Possibly.
What if these composers were possessed?
By some...
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- Maybe they made a contract with the devil
- to get really good composing skills.
- Yeah.
Like Paganini, but like...
- But yeah, but then you have to die by the 9th symphony.
- The composer devil. It's like...
"All your symphonies will be remembered."
"But there's a 99% chance..."
"You have to give me your soul."
- "When you hit your 9th symphony, time's up."
- And you can't even... Yeah, time's up.
"That's the rule." And they sign it.
That's so weird though, it's just...
And for Schoenberg to even say that.
Yeah.

Chinese: 
在第九部首演前写好了第十部
他心想，“人家才不要演奏第九部，
快让人家把第十部先写完”
这位大哥很有先见之明呢
勋伯格甚至写过说
“看来第九部就是极限了”
“任何尝试跨越此极限的人都会离世”
天啦噜
也可能只是巧合咯
如果真有什么作曲家的诅咒
- 谁知道呢？
- 我也在想，作曲家们因为这所谓的诅咒
会...
给自己施加怎样的心理压力
有可能
如果他们被附身了怎么办？
比如某些...
- 是啊是啊
- 他们说不定和魔鬼签订了协议
- 来换取作曲技能满点
- 是哦
比如帕格尼尼，不过...
*帕格尼尼被称为“魔鬼的小提琴家”，人们传说他把灵魂出卖给了魔鬼来换取高超的琴艺*
*帕格尼尼被称为“魔鬼的小提琴家”，人们传说他把灵魂出卖给了魔鬼来换取高超的琴艺*
- 对，但你到第九首之后就不能活了
- 作曲家魔鬼
*帕格尼尼被称为“魔鬼的小提琴家”，人们传说他把灵魂出卖给了魔鬼来换取高超的琴艺*
“你的所有交响作品都会被铭记”
“但是，有99%的概率...”
“你得把灵魂交给我”
- “到第九部交响曲的时候，你的时辰到了”
- 你都不能...没错，时辰到了
“规则就是这样” ，之后他们就签了
就真的很奇怪
而且勋伯格甚至会这样讲
是啊

English: 
He who wants to go beyond it must pass away.
Was that a quote from the devil?
- Composers out there, let us know.
- Yeah.
- If you hit your -
- Be careful.
Be careful if you hit your 10th symphony.
Once you go pass 11th and 12th, you're fine.
Yeah, all right, cool.
Did you enjoy this video?
Hope you did. If you did, hit like, subscribe.
Definitely helps the channel out and um...
Now it's practice time!

Chinese: 
“任何尝试跨越此极限的人都会离世”
这是魔鬼本鬼的语录吗？
- 作曲专业的同学们，记得告诉我们啊
- 嗯
- 写到你的...
- 注意安全啊！
写到第十部的时候可要保重啊！
等你过了第十一、十二部，就没事儿啦
好啦
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