 
BUSINESSES AFFECTED BY COVID-19.
APPLICATIONS OPENED ABOUT FIVE 
HOURS AGO AND WE'LL TALK MORE 
ABOUT WHO CAN APPLY AND HOW 
MANY BUSINESSES MAY BE 
INTERESTED IN THAT VERY SOON.
ALSO ON THE GO TODAY, ONTARIO 
IS EXPECTED TO GIVE US A BETTER 
PICTURE, A CLEARER PICTURE AT 
AROUND 1:30 EASTERN OF ITS 
PLANS TO RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY.
GRADUALLY, AS WE KNOW.
WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN A 
COUPLE OF OTHER PROSLINS.
-- PROVINCES.
ONTARIO PREMIER DOUG FORD IS 
PROPOSING A BALANCED FRAMEWORK 
FOR DOING THAT.
ON THE WEEKEND, ONTARIO SAID 
THAT SCHOOLS WOULD REMAIN 
CLOSED UNTIL MAY 29.
AND IF THE THOUGHT OF 
RE-OPENING ANYTHING OR ANY OF 
THIS MAKES YOU FEEL STRESSED OR 
ANXIOUS, YOU ARE CERTAIN LIFT 
NOT ALONE.
THERE IS A NEW ANGUS REID 
SURVEY THIS MORNING THAT 
SUGGESTS THE MAJORITY OF US 
THINK IT'S, QUOTE, TOO SOON FOR 
THINGS TO GET BACK TO ANYTHING 
APPROACHING NORMAL.
AND AT LEAST HALF OF SURVEY 
RESPONDENTS SAY THAT THEIR 
MENTAL HEALTH IS WORSENING AS 
THE PANDEMIC AND SHUTDOWNS DRAG 
ON.
WE'LL TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST 
ABOUT THAT IMPORTANT PART OF 
ALL OF THIS AS WELL.
AS THEY DO, MY COLLEAGUES, 
CBC'S DAVID COCHRANE AND THE 
HOST OF "POWER & POLITICS", 
VASSY KAPELOS ARE BOTH HERE.
LET'S START, I GUESS, WITH WHAT 
THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO 
TODAY.
IT'S NOTHING NEW, BUT IT IS THE 
OFFICIAL RED TAPE CUTTING, I 
GUESS, OF THIS PROCESS WHICH 
OPENED AT, I BELIEVE, 6:00 A.M. 
THIS MORNING.
VASSY?
>> Vassy: YEAH.
THAT IS THE PERFECT WAY TO PUT 
IT, ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE CUTING 
THE RIBBON TO BEGIN THE 
OPENING, I GUESS, OR THE FORMAL 
PART OF THIS BIG, BIG FINANCIAL 
AID PROGRAMME.
I WOULD SAY IT'S ONE OF TWO 
MARQUIS PIECES OF FINANCIAL AID 
FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
THE FIRST, OF COURSE, WAS THE 
CERB, $2,000 FOR INDIVIDUALS 
WHO HAD TO STAY HOME OR WHO 
LOST THEIR JOB BECAUSE OF 
COVID-19.
THERE WERE MANY QUESTIONS IN 
THE LEADUP OF THAT LAUNCH ABOUT 
THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY OF THE 
SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE 
GOVERNMENT TO DELIVER THAT 
MONEY AS QUICKLY AS IT WAS 
NEEDED.
AND THOUGH THERE ARE STILL A 
LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO MAY 
HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE 
PROCESS, THOSE PEOPLE WHO DID 
APPLY DID END UP GETTING THEIR 
MONEY VERY QUICKLY.
NOW WE FAST FORWARD TO TODAY.
THIS PROGRAMME, WHICH IS AIMED 
AT HELPING BUSINESSES OF ALL 
SIZES.
IT'S A 75% WAGE SUBSIDY FOR 
THREE MONTHS, RETROACTIVE, I 
BELIEVE, UNTIL MARCH 15.
WE KNOW OF COMPANIES WITH FOUR 
EMPLOYEES AND 4,000 EMPLOYEES 
LIKE THE AIRLINES, FOR EXAMPLE, 
WHO PLAN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF 
IT.
LAST WEEK A WEEK AGO ON THE 
C.R.A.'S WEBSITE, THEY USED AND 
ONLINE CALCULATOR TO FIGURE OUT 
HOW MUCH YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.
THIS WEEK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO 
GO AND APPLY.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS ON THAT 
TECHNICAL CAPACITY ISSUE THAT 
YOU WILL, 9 0% OF THOSE WHO 
APPLY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR 
MONEY.
THE FIRST SORT OF INCREMENT OF 
IT WITHIN A WEEK.
SO SOME -- AT SOME POINT AT THE 
BEGINNING OF MAY.
SO, THE BIG QUESTION, OF 
COURSE, LIKE IT WAS WITH THE 
CERB IS, WILL THE DELIVERY OF 
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN?
WILL THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY BE 
THERE?
IT WAS FOR THE CERB, AS I SAID.
BUT MANY BUSINESSES VERY MUCH 
COUNTING ON IT WORKING THIS 
TIME AS QUICKLY FOR THEM, TOO.
THEY HAVE HAD TO WAIT A LOT 
LONGER THAN THE CERB.
BE THIS WAS ANNOUNCED NOT MUCH 
LONGER AFTER THE PROGRAMME AND 
THE ABILITY TO DELIVER ON IT 
THAT.
TECHNICAL STUFF IS A BIT MORE 
COMPLICATED THAN THE CER 
BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THAT DOES 
INVOLVE BUSINESSES AND INVOLVES 
MEETING A BIT OF A HIGHER 
THRESHOLD THAN THE CERB DID.
SO, WE'LL HAVE OUR EYE ON THAT 
CERTAINLY.
I THINK THE NUMBERS WILL BE 
INDICATIVE OF A LOT, TOO.
WE HAVE CONSTANTLY HEARD FROM 
BUSINESSES AND WE KNOW THAT, AS 
WE LOOK TOWARD THE PLANS TO 
RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY, BUSINESSES 
HAVE BEEN HIT SO HARD AND THOSE 
WHO OWN THEM HIT SO HARD.
SO, I THINK THEY'RE WATCHING 
VERY CLOSELY TODAY AND OVER 
THIS WEEK TO SEE HOW QUICKLY 
THAT MONEY CAN COME.
BUT MANY OF THEM HAVE TOLD US 
THAT THEY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE 
OF IT AND THAT THEY DO EXPECT 
IT TO HELP THEM KEEP EMPLOYEES 
ON.
>> Rosemary: YEAH.
$73 BILLION IS WHAT THEY EXPECT 
THAT THIS PROGRAMME WILL COST, 
DAVID.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHERE IT 
STARTED AND WHERE IT ENDED UP, 
IT'S QUITE ASTOUNDING WHEN THE 
FIRST ATTEMPT AT THIS OUT OF 
THE GATE WAS A 10% WAGE 
SURPLUS, BUMPED UP TO 75%.
AND I WAS READING SOME 
INTERESTING ARTICLES THIS 
MORNING ABOUT SOME BIGGER 
COMPANIES WHO WANT TO USE THIS.
BUT THEIR EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY 
MAKE PRETTY HIGH WAGES.
SO, THE 75% DOESN'T ACTUALLY 
COVER ALL OF THE WAGES AND 
THOSE COMPANIES WILL HAVE TO 
CONTRIBUTE MORE IN ORDER TO 
KEEP THE EMPLOYEES ON.
SO, THE FACT THAT IT NOW 
APPLIES TO SO MANY SIZE OF 
BUSINESSES IS SORT OF 
INTERESTING, TOO, BECAUSE THAT 
PRESENTS DIFFERENT CHALLENGES 
AS WELL.
>> Reporter: YEAH.
IT'S 75% OF THE FIRST AMOUNT OF 
MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S THE CAP ON 
THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE PENSION 
PLAN.
IT'S NOT GOING KEEP EVERYBODY 
WHOLE WHO MAKE ABOVE THAT OR 
EVEN AT THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE 
SOME BUSINESSES WON'T BE ABLE 
TO JUST SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD TO 
DO THE 25% TOP-UP.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY 
COMING IN.
SO THIS IS A BETTER THAN 
NOTHING TYPE APPROACH.
NOT TO DISMISS IT.
I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT, BUT 
IT'S NOT PERFECT.
BECAUSE NO SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE 
GOING TO COME UP WAS GOING TO 
BE PERFECT OR KEEP PEOPLE WHOLE.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL MOVE FROM 
THE INITIAL 10% WAGE SUBSIDY 
FOR THREE MONTHS.
JUST FOR SMALL AND MEDIUM-SIZED 
ENTERPRISES AT THAT POINT IN 
TIME.
IT'S NOW 75% FOR EVERYBODY.
I MEAN, AIR CANADA IS USING 
THIS.
AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE IS 
THAT A SMALL OR MEDIUM-SIZED 
ENTERPRISE.
SO WE HEARD FROM THE CANADIAN 
FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT 
BUSINESS THAT SAYS ABOUT HALF 
OF ITS MEMBERS, THIS IS A 
SURVEY, NOT A SCIENTIFIC POLL.
SO IT DOESN'T CAPTURE THE FULL 
THING.
BUT IT IS INDICATIVE.
ABOUT HALF OF ITS MEMBERS WILL 
APPLY FOR THIS.
SO IT DOES SAY IT'S A BIT TOO 
LATE FOR SOME OF WHO HAVE 
ALREADY LAID OFF EMPLOYEES AND 
CLOSED SHOP SIMPLY BECAUSE OF 
THE UNCERTAINTY THIS HAS BEEN 
ONE OF THE CRITICISMS OF THIS 
THAT HAS BEEN PERHAPS A LITTLE 
BIT TOO RESTRICTIVE IN ITS 
EARLY FORM.
IT TOOK A WHILE TO EVOLVE AND 
TOO SLOW TO GET OUT.
WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S THE CASE 
WHEN IT'S ALL OVER.
GOING BACK TO SOMETHING FROM 
THE CERB, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE 
CANADA REVENUE AGENCY CAN DO.
THEY DELIVER BIG TIME IN TERMS 
OF THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY AND 
THE PROCESSING.
ENORMOUS VOLUMES GIVEN THE SIZE 
AND SCALE OF THE ECONOMIC 
IMPACT OF THIS PANDEMIC.
THIS IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL 
UNIVERSAL PROGRAMME LIKE THE 
CERB.
EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS WILL GET 
A DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNT SO 
THERE IS MORE FRONT-END 
PROCESSING THAN THERE WAS WITH 
THE CERB WHICH COULD PUT SOME 
STRESS AND STRAIN IN THE 
PROGRAMME, BASED ON HOW 
COMPLETE THEIR INFORMATION IS 
AND HOW OVERWHELMED THE 
PROCESSORS ARE IN TERMS OF 
DEALING WITH THIS.
AGAIN, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE 
CANADIAN REVENUE AGENCY IS 
EFFECTIVE AND BACKSTOPPING OF 
OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE THAT HAVE 
SEEN A PLUMMET IN THEIR 
OPERATIONS BECAUSE OF THE 
PANDEMIC.
BUT THEY DELIVERED THE CERB, SO 
LET'S HOPE THEY CAN DELIVER ON 
THE WAGE SUBSIDY.
>> Rosemary: AS OF APRIL 23rd, 
THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SEVEN 
MILLION CANADIANS APPLYING NAR 
EMERGENCY RELIEF BENEFIT.
A TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE OF $22.4 
BILLION.
AND YOU HAVE TO RENEW FOR THAT 
BENEFIT EVERY MONTH.
SO, THE GOVERNMENT'S HOPE IS 
THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE, SOME 
OF THE COMPANIES THAT MAY BE 
FURLOUGHED WORKERS WILL BRING 
THEM BACK USING THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY AND THE CANADIANS 
APPLIED FOR CERB WON'T NEED TO 
DO IT FOR ALL THE MONTHS GOING 
FORWARD, NECESSARILY.
THAT IS THE PRIME MINISTER'S 
HOUSE.
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WIT.
RIDEAU COTTAGE.
HE'LL EMERGE IN ABOUT EIGHT 
MINUTES' TIME OR SO TO SPEAK 
WITH US ABOUT THE WAGE SUBSIDY.
WHILE WE AWAIT HIM, I DID WANT 
TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER SIDE 
EFFECT, IF YOU WILL, OF THE 
PANDEMIC AND THAT IS IN TERMS 
OF HOW YOU'RE ALL DOING.
HOW CANADIANS ARE DOING DURING 
ALL OF THIS.
THERE ARE NUMBERS RELEASED FROM 
AN ANGUS REID SURVEY THAT SHOW 
ONE OUT OF TWO, SO 50% OF YOU, 
BELIEVE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IS 
WORSENING.
10% SAY IT'S WORSENED A LOT 
SINCE THE CRISIS BEGAN, REALLY 
DETERIORATING AND THE SURVEY 
FOUND THAT DETERIORATING 
EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING WILL BE 
COMMON ACROSS ALL AGE GROUPS 
FOR MEN AND WOMEN.
THE POLL SHOWS ONE IN FIVE 
CANADIANS ARE BEING HARDEST HIT.
STRUGGLING WITH THEIR MENTAL 
WELLNESS WHILE ALSO STRUGGLING 
TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
AS YOU SAW THERE, ALBERTA HAS 
THE HIGHEST PROPORTION OF 
PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH ALL OF 
THAT.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY NO 
SURPRISE TO PSYCHOLOGIST DANA 
LEE BAGLEY AND SHE SAYS HER 
PATIENTS PRETTY MUCH ONLY WANT 
TO TALK ABOUT THE PANDEMIC'S 
IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES AND SHE 
JOINS US US NOW FROM HALIFAX.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Rosemary: I THINK EVERYONE 
HAS SOME LEVEL OF STRUGLE WITH 
THIS.
RIGHT?
WHETHER IT'S THE EMOTIONAL 
PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU'RE STUCK 
AT HOME AND FEEL CUT OFF FROM 
PEOPLE OR WHETHER IT'S THE -- 
ON TOP OF THAT -- THE FINANCIAL 
STRESS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
WHAT ARE YOUR PATIENTS TILLING 
YOU ABOUT HOW THEY'RE COPING?
>> Caller: YEAH.
THE RESPONSE IS IT DOESN'T 
SURPRISE ME.
I THINK EVERYONE IS STRUGGLING 
WITH THIS AS WE WOULD EXPECT 
EVERYONE TO STRUGGLE WITH IT.
IT'S IMPACTED EVERYONE'S LIVES, 
IT'S VERY STRESSFUL.
MY PATIENTS AND CLIENTS, PRETTY 
MUCH THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE 
TALK ABOUT AND WE PRETTY MUCH 
TALK ABOUT HOW TO COPE WITH 
THIS EASY BECAUSE IT'S 
INCREDIBLY STRESSFUL FOR US.
WE REALLY UNDERESTIMATE HOW 
MUCH THREAT WE FEEL UNDER, HOW 
MUCH STRESS, SOMETIMES 
FINANCIAL AND OTHER THING AS 
WELL AND HOW MUCH EFFORT IT 
TAKES TO GET THROUGH A COVI 
D-DAY.
PEOPLE SAY I HAVEN'T DONE 
ANYTHING, I'M EXHAUSTED.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT TAKES SO 
MUCH MORE EFFORT TO DO THINGS.
BEFORE COVID, I NEVER HAD TO 
THINK ABOUT HAVING A SHOWER.
BUT NOW I HAVE TO CONSCIOUSLY, 
DELIBERATELY MAKE SURE I HAVE A 
SHOWER.
SO, WE'RE USING UP ENERGY JUST 
TO DO THESE BASIC TASKS.
>> Rosemary: RIGHT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE SEE THESE 
NUMBERS EXACERBATED IN ALBERTA, 
I SUPPOSE IT'S NOT SURPRISING, 
TOO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME 
PARTS OF THE COUNTRY -- 
ALBERTA, NEWFOUNDLAND, 
LABRADOR, SASKATCHEWAN WHERE 
THEY HAVE BEEN ECONOMICALLY AND 
WITH THE PANDEMIC.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW THAT 
MANIFESTS ITSELF IN TERMS OF 
MENTAL HEALTH.
>> YEAH.
WE KNOW THAT FINANCIAL STRESS 
IS A CAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH 
ISSUES SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING 
THAT IN SOME OF THE PROVINCES 
HIT MORE FINANCIALLY YOU SEE 
PEOPLE STRUGGLING MORE.
>> Rosemary: HOW ARE YOU 
TALKING TO PATIENTS?
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PRIVATE 
PRACTICE.
THEY'RE NOT COMING TO YOUR 
HOUSE.
HOW IS THAT TRANSITION AND IS 
IT OK TO DO IT, I GUESS, 
VIRTUALLY IN SOME CAPACITY?
>> YEAH.
SO WE TRANSITIONED ALL OF THE 
CLIENTS TO VIRTUAL SESSIONS AND 
PSYCHOLOGY, I WOULD SAY, IS ONE 
OF THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT DOES 
TRANSLATE FAIRLY WELL INTO A 
VIRTUAL PLATFORM.
IN LOTS OF WAYS, I THINK IT IS 
GREAT THAT ALL OF THIS 
TELEHEALTH AND TELEMEDICINE HAS 
HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THE 
PANDEMIC.
AND I WISH IT COULD COME ABOUT 
IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
BUT GIVEN THE PANDEMIC, IT IS 
GREAT THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS 
THESE RESOURCES STILL.
AND I WOULD RECOMMEND, AFTER 
SEEING THOSE RESULTS THAT 
PEOPLE SHOULD TRY TO ACCESS 
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS.
THERE ARE A LOT AVAILABLE 
VIRTUALLY ONLINE FOR FREE.
THIS ISN'T ORDINARY TIMES.
WE DO ALL KINDS OF 
EXTRAORDINARY THINGS WE WOULD 
NEVER CONSIDER DOING BEFORE 
THIS PANDEMIC.
AND SO REACHING OUT FOR MENTAL 
HEALTH SUPPORT MIGHT BE ONE OF 
THOSE THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
>> Rosemary: AND WHAT IS YOUR 
SORT OF BEST ADVICE RIGHT NOW 
TO CANADIANS?
BECAUSE SO MANY OF US -- SO 
MANY PEOPLE ARE STUCK AT HOME 
AND ARE NOW GETTING TO THE 
POINT WHERE THEY'RE SORT OF 
DONE.
THEY'RE SORT OF DONE WITH BEING 
HOME.
THEY UNDERSTAND, BASED ON THAT 
SAME POLL, THAT THEY HAVE TO DO 
IT AND THEY'RE OK WITH THAT.
BUT MENTALLY THEY FIND THAT 
CHALLENGING.
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING YOUR 
PATIENTS, WHAT WOULD YOU TELL 
CANADIANS ABOUT SORT OF DIGGING 
IN FOR ANOTHER FEW WEEKS OF.
THIS?
-- FEW WEEKS OF THIS?
>> THE AS A RESULTS SHOW THAT 
PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING BUT 
CANADIANS ARE ALSO WILLING TO 
SUFFER FOR THE GREATER GOOD, 
THAT THEY WANT TO PROTECT 
PEOPLE AND WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE 
SAFE.
BUT IT IS A STRUGGLE TO DO WHEN 
WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THIS IS A 
STRUGGLE.
SO WE WANT TO BE REALLY 
DELIBERATE ABOUT PROTECTING OUR 
MENTAL HEALTH, WHETHER THAT IS 
DOING THINGS THAT CHARGE YOUR 
BATTERY, SOCIAL CONNECTION, 
OTHER THINGS THAT YOU FIND 
MEANINGFUL OR PURPOSEFUL.
OR REACHING OUT FOR 
PROFESSIONAL MENTAL HEALTH 
SUPPORT.
>> Rosemary: OK.
DAYNA-LEE BAGGLEY.
PROBABLY NOT A TOPIC THAT WE 
TALK ENOUGH ABOUT, BUT IT IS 
SURE AN IMPORTANT ONE.
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: AS WE WAIT FOR THE 
PRIME MINISTER HERE IN THE 
NATION'S CAPITAL, HE WILL COME 
OUT OF HIS FRONT DOOR THERE AND 
GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT HIS 
GOVERNMENT IS DOING TODAY.
TO RESPOND TO THE PANDEMIC.
I WILL GO BACK TO MY 
COLLEAGUES, VASSY AND DAVID.
WE HEARD FROM NEW BRUNSWICK AND 
SASKATCHEWAN LAST WEEK, WE ARE 
EXPECTING TO HEAR MORE FROM THE 
ONTARIO PREMIER AT 1:30 EASTERN.
A REALLY DELICATE DANCE FOR THE 
PROVINCES AND FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT.
WE SEE SOME OF IT HAPPENING IN 
THE UNITED STATES AND SOME OF 
IT SEEMS TO BE JUST ALL OVER 
THE PLACE IN TERMS OF WHAT 
THEY'RE DOING.
SO I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING BOTH 
OF YOU ON THAT.
WE HAVE ABOUT TWO MINUTES.
>> Vassy: I WOULD PICK UP RIGHT 
THERE AND SAY IT'S INTERESTING 
THAT WE'VE SEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, 
SASKATCHEWAN AND NEW BRUNSWICK 
UNVEIL THEIR PLANS TO RE-OPEN 
THE ECONOMY.
WHICH IS PRETTY SOON.
IT'S HAPPENING A BIT IN NEW 
BRUNSWICK ALREADY AND IT'S 
GOING TO HAPPEN STARTING NEXT 
WEEK IN SASKATCHEWAN.
BUT IN BOTH OF THOSE PROVINCES, 
YOU'VE SEEN A REAL FLATTENING 
OF THE CURVE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEW 
CASES THAT ARE VERY LOW.
IN ONTARIO, YOU HAVE A VERY 
DIFFERENT SITUATION.
SO, THE PREMIER IS GOING TO 
COME OUT TODAY AND LAY OUT A 
PLAN FOR WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE 
GOING FORWARD, WHICH I THINK 
PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED TO HEAR.
BUT SORT OF FROM A PUBLIC 
HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, WE SEEM TO 
BE CAT A DIFFERENT POINT IN 
THIS PROVINCE THAN THE OTHER 
TWO PROVINCES THAT HAVE 
UNVEILED THIS PLAN.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY YOU 
SHOULDN'T ANNOUNCE WHAT'S 
COMING OR WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO.
BUT IT CERTAINLY IS A LITTLE 
BIT-I FEEL LIKE A DIFFERENT 
TALE TO DIGEST, I GUESS.
AND ALSO WHAT I'M INTERESTED TO 
HEAR FROM THE PRIME MINISTER, 
HE SPOKE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE 
PLAN TO HAVE SOME SORT OF 
FEDERAL GUIDELINES IN PLACE AND 
WE KNOW THAT A CONVERSATION 
OCCURRED WITH THE PREMIERS.
WHEN HE TOLD THE PREMIERS, 
ACCORDING TO BLAINE HIGGS, THE 
PREMIER OF NEW BRUNSWICK WHO I 
SPOKE WITH ON FRIDAY EVENING, 
THAT HE WANTED TO GOAT IT OUT 
SOON.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE 
HOW THEY MESH UP AGAINST THE 
PROVINCIAL CONTEXT BECAUSE EVEN 
IF YOU COMPARE NEW BRUNSWICK 
AND SASKATCHEWAN, THERE ARE 
SOME VERY JERMAINE DIFFERENCES 
IN THE WAY IN WHICH THOSE PLANS 
ROLL OUT.
I GET IT.
THEY'RE DIFFERENT PROVINCE.
BUT HOW DOES THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TRY AND BRIDGE THE 
GAP, I GUESS, OR SET SOME SORT 
OF BAR FOR ALL PROVINCES?
WELL, THEY ALREADY STARTED THE 
BALL ROLLING.
>> Rosemary: AND QUEBEC, TOO, 
EXPECTED TO GIVE US SOME SENSE 
OF THINGS THIS WEEK.
DO YOU WANTS TO WEIGH IN, DAVID?
>> Reporter: EVERYONE CAN COME 
UP WITH A PLAN TO RE-OPEN AND 
THAT WILL BE PHASED IN AND 
BASED ON SCIENCE AND DATA AND 
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT A BIG RATE DETERMINING STEP 
IN THIS IS CANADA'S SUPPLY OF 
PERSONAL PROTOEKTSIVE EQUIPMENT.
THE MINUTE YOU START OPENING UP 
THE ECONOMY, PRIVATE SECTOR 
WORKERS STAYING AT HOME RIGHT 
NOW DOING PHYSICAL DISTANCE 
WILLING WANT A MASK AND GLOVES 
TO KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE.
YOU CAN DO THE HOME-MADE CLOTH 
THINGS BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN 
BUSINESSES THAT YOU REQUIRE A 
LEVEL OF MEDICAL GRADE THINGS 
AND THIS WAS, I KNOW, A CONCERN 
THAT WAS RAISED BY SOME OF THE 
PREMIERS IN THEIR CONVERSATION 
WITH THE PRIME MINISTER ON 
FRIDAY.
AND NAG HE ACKNOWLEDGED.
THAT UNTIL THE PRIVATE SECTOR 
HAS A GOOD AND CONSISTENT AND 
STEADY SUPPLY OF P.P.E., IT 
WILL BE HARD TO DO WIDE SCALE 
RE-OPENING.
WE'RE NOT THERE ON TESTING YET 
AS A COUNTRY.
CERTAINLY NOT HERE IN THE 
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND QUEBEC 
IS STARTING TO SHOW A LITTLE 
BIT OF SIGNS OF LAGGING, EVEN 
THOUGH MONTREAL IS NOW THE 
EPICENTER OF THIS PANDEMIC IN 
CANADA.
SO, THERE ARE OTHER CHALLENGES 
JUST BEYOND HAVING A PLAN AND 
PEOPLE WANTING TO GO BACK TO 
WORK.
BECAUSE IF YOU RE-OPEN WITHOUT 
ENOUGH TESTING AND WITHOUT 
ENOUGH PERSONAL PROTECTIVE 
EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE SETTING THE 
STAGE FOR A SPIKE AND A SETBACK 
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT ALL THE 
POLITICAL AND BUSINESS LEADERS 
AND ABOUT EVERY CANADIAN SEEMS 
INTENT ON AVOIDING.
YOU SAW WITH THE PROTEST IN 
ONTARIO, QUEEN'S PARK OVER THE 
WEEKEND, DOUG FORD -- WHO LIKES 
TO BRAG THAT ONTARIO IS OPEN 
FOR BUSINESS -- CALLED THE 
PEOPLE WANTING ONTARIO OPEN FOR 
BUSINESS A BUNCH OF YAHOOS AND 
TOLD THEM TO GO HOME.
WHILE THERE IS AN EAGERNESS TO 
GET IT DONE, THERE IS AN 
OVERWHELMING DESIRE TO DO I 
PROPERLY AND SAFELY.
>> Rosemary: YEAH.
THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF 
WEIGHT IN TERMS OF 
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC, 
IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT 
DECISION.
I WOULD SAY THAT LAST WEEK THE 
PREMIER OF ONTARIO DID DOWNPLAY 
THE IDEA THAT THIS COULD BE 
BACK TO NORMAL, WHATEVER THAT'S 
GOING TO LOOK LIKE BY MAY LONG 
WEEKEND AND HE PREVIOUSLY SAID 
THAT IS NOT WHAT HE'S SAYING 
NOW.
HIS MINISTER OF EDUCATION 
STEVEN LECCE SAID OVER THE 
WEEKEND THAT PUBLICLY FUNDED 
SCHOOLS WILL REMAIN CLOSED 
UNTIL THE END OF MAY AND THERE 
WILL BE ANOTHER UPDATE YET TO 
COME.
QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THAT MIGHT 
NOT EVEN HAPPEN AT ALL.
HERE'S JUSTIN TRUDEAU COMING 
OUT OF HIS FRONT DOOR.
LET'S LISTEN TO THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: FROM 
COAST TO COAST TO COAST, THERE 
ARE CANADIANS WORKING LONG 
HOURS TO KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE 
AND KEEP OUR COUNTRY MOVING.
BUT FOR EVERYONE PUTING IN AN 
EXTRA SHIFT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S 
SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO WORK, 
BUT CAN'T.
MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN LAID OFF 
BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
MAYBE YOU STILL HAVE A JOB, BUT 
AREN'T SURE IF EMPLOYER IS 
GOING TO KEEP YOU AROUND NEXT 
MONTH.
WHATEVER YOUR SITUATION MAY BE, 
WE'RE IN YOUR CORNER.
EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE 
INTRODUCED THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
WAGE SUBSIDY TO HELP PROTOEKTS 
YOUR JOB OR HELP YOU GET BACK 
TO WORK.
AND AS OF THIS MORNING, 
APPLICATIONS FOR THIS PROGRAMME 
HAVE OPENED.
EMPLOYERS CAN NOW SUBMIT A 
CLAIM FOR THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
WAGE SUBSIDY THROUGH THE CANADA 
REVENUE AGENCY.
TO ACCESS THE 75% WAGE SUBSIDY 
FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, GO ONLINE 
THROUGH CANADA.CA TO REACH THIS 
PORTAL.
WHETHER YOU'RE A CHARITY THAT 
EMPLOYS 200 PEOPLE OR 
FAST-GROWING STARTUPS THAT 
EMPLOY JUST 20, YOU WILL BE 
ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO $847 PER 
WEEK PER EMPLOYEE.
YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE THIS 
MONEY SOON.
MAKE SURE YOU REGISTER FOR 
DIRECT DEPOSIT TO GET YOUR 
MONEY QUICKLY.
THE FIRST PAYMENTS SHOULD BEGIN 
TO ARRIVE ON MAY 7.
BECAUSE OF COVID-19, A CHARITY 
FROM GUELPH WOULD HAVE BEEN 
FORCED TO LAY OFF ALL OF THEIR 
STAFF.
BUT THANKS TO THE WAGE SIX DID, 
THEY CAN KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES 
TON PAYROLL AND KEEP TEACHING 
KIDS ABOUT NATURE.
AND THERE ARE SO MANY MORE 
STORIES JUST LIKE THIS ONE.
THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 300,000 
VIEW OF THE ONLINE CALCULATE TO 
THAT WE LAUNCHED LAST WEEK TO 
HELP BUSINESSES PREPARE A 
KLA *IM.
AND SINCE THE PORTAL OPENED AT 
6:00 A.M. THIS MORNING, ALMOST 
10,000 BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY 
APPLIED FOR IT.
THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF JUST 
HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS PROGRAMME 
WILL HELP.
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT IS 
GOING TO KEEP BUSINESSES AND 
WORKERS CONNECTED.
EN IS THAT GIVES PEOPLE 
CERTAINLY THAT THEY HAVE A JOB 
NOW AND IN THE MONTH TO COME TO 
SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR 
FAMILY AND MEANS EMPLOYERS NOT 
ONLY HAVE SUPPORT THROUGH THE 
TOUGH TIME, BUT THEY WILL BE 
ABLE TO GEAR BACK UP WHEN 
THINGS GET BETTER.
WE ALL KNOW A LOCAL SALON OR A 
GYM THAT'S HAD TO CLOSE AND A 
NEIGHBOURHOOD RESTAURANT OR 
SHOP THAT'S REALLY STRUGGLING.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ALL KNOW 
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE.
THEY DESERVE A HAND TO GET 
THROUGH THIS AND THAT IS WHAT 
THE  WAGE SUBSIDY IS FOR.
FRENCH DPREFRJ.
>> Interpreter: STARTING THIS 
MORNING, EMPLOYERS ARE ABLE TO 
APPLY TO RECEIVE THE EMERGENCY 
WAGE SUBSIDY ON THE CANADA 
REVENUE WEBSITE.
YOU WILL FIND THE PORTAL ONLINE 
AT CANADA.CA AND THERE YOU CAN 
APPLY FOR YOUR 75% SIX DID.
-- SUBSIDY.
WHETHER YOU'RE RUNNING A 
CHARITY THAT EMPLOYS 200 PEOPLE 
OR A STARTUP THAT EMPLOYS 20 
PEOPLE, YOU CAN NOW RECEIVE UP 
TO $847 PER EMPLOYEE EVERY WEEK 
AND THIS IS MONEY THAT YOU WILL 
BE RECEIVING SOON.
THE REVENUE AGENCY HAS BEEN 
WORKING WITH FINANCIAL 
INSTITUTIONS TO ENSURE THAT YOU 
CAN QUICKLY RECEIVE YOUR 
PAYMENTS.
IF YOU OPT FOR DIRECT DEPOSIT 
WITH THE FIRST PAYMENTS BACKING 
AVAILABLE ON MAY 7.
SINCE 6:00 A.M., ALMOST 10,000 
BUSINESSS HAVE ALREADY APPLIED.
THIS SUBSIDY WILL HELP MANY 
PEOPLE KEEP THEIR JOB DURING 
THIS CRISIS.
AROUND IT WILL ALSO HELP 
EMPLOYERS TO QUICKLY START UP 
THEIR ACTIVITIES AGAIN ONCE THE 
CRISIS HAS ENDED.
ALL OF US HAVE, IN OUR 
NEIGHBOURHOOD, AO *ET AREA HAIR 
SALON OR GYM THAT HAS HAD TO 
SHUT DOWN OR A NEIGHBOURHOOD 
RESTAURANT OR SMALL BOUTIQUE 
THAT IS HAVING TROUBLE AND WE 
ALL KNOW PEOPLE WHO WORK IN 
THOSE PLACES.
THEY DESERVE A HAND TO GET 
THROUGH THIS.
AND THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE 
OF THE WAGE SUBSIDY.
BUT CERTAINLY A SINGLE 
PROGRAMME CANNOT HELP EVERYONE.
A GOVERNMENT PROGRAMME CANNOT 
HIRE YOU IF YOU ARE A SEASONAL 
WORKER OR CANNOT FIND A JOB 
RIGHT NOW, WE WILL HELP YOU.
YOU HAVE PROBABLY ALREADY 
RECEIVED YOUR FIRST MONTHLY 
CHECK FOR THE EMERGENCY BENEFIT.
IF YOU NEED ONE NEXT MONTH, YOU 
SIMPLY HAVE TO GO ONLINE AND 
CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE STILL 
ELIGIBLE.
BUT REMEMBER, YOU CANNOT KEEP 
BOTH THE WAGE SUBSIDY AND THE 
EMERGENCY BENEFIT.
IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER, NOT 
BOTH.
NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHER 
PARTIES NOW TO PASS LEGISLATION 
THAT WILL  ALLOW US TO 
INTRODUCE THE MEASURES THAT WE 
HAVE DEVELOPED FOR STUDENTS.
WE WILL BE CONTINUING THIS WORK 
IN PARLIAMENT AND OUR FIRST 
VIRTUAL SESSION WILL TAKE PLACE 
TOMORROW WITH AN IN-PERSON 
SESSION ON WEDNESDAY.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL ALSO 
BE GIVING THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES THE FUNDING THEY 
NEED TO TOP UP THE WAGES OF 
ESSENTIAL WORKERS.
THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB 
AND THEY DESERVE TO BE FAIRLY 
COMPENSATED.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
PEOPLE ARE FACING DIFFERENT 
CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW AND NO 
SINGLE PROGRAMME CAN REACH 
EVERYONE.
SO WE'RE COMING AT THIS FROM 
EVERY ANGLE.
IF YOUR EMPLOYER CAN'T HIRE YOU 
BACK, IF YOU'RE A SEASONAL 
WORKER, IF YOU CAN'T FIND A JOB 
RIGHT NOW, THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
RESPONSE BENEFIT IS THERE FOR 
YOU.
YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY 
RECEIVED YOUR FIRST CHEQUE.
AND IF YOU NEED THE HELP AGAIN 
FOR THE COMING MONTH, GO ONLINE 
AND RECONFIRM THAT YOU'RE STILL 
ELIGIBLE.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE, YOU 
WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP BOTH THE 
WAGE SUBSIDY AND THE CERB.
IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER.
NOT BOTH.
IF YOU'RE A STUDENT, THERE'S 
SUPPORT FOR YOU, TOO.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH 
THE OTHER PARTIES ON 
LEGISLATION TO GET THIS HELP 
FLOWING.
PARLIAMENT WILL HAVE ITS FIRST 
VIRTUAL SITTING TOMORROW AND 
IN-PERSON SITTING ON WEDNESDAY.
AND IF YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL 
WORKER, YOU DESERVE TO BE PAID 
PROPERLY FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE 
WORK.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING ITS 
PART TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
ONTARIO CAME OUT WITH THEIR 
PLAN OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE'RE 
WORKING WITH THEM TO PROVIDE 
THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO 
DELIVER RESULTS.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN 
DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE OTHER 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO 
GET THEIR PLANS FOR ESSENTIAL 
WORKERS IN PLACE.
I'LL HAVE MORE UPDATES FOR 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE 
COMING DAYS.
AS I SAID SATURDAY, WE'RE ALSO 
COLLABORATING ON SHARED 
GUIDELINES FOR RE-OPENING THE 
ECONOMY.
ONCE THE TIME COMES.
DIFFERENT PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES WILL BE ABLE TO 
MOVE AT A DIFFERENT PACE.
BUT WE NEED CLEAR, COORDINATED 
EFFORTS FROM COAST TO COAST TO 
COAST.
AND NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, 
YOU NEED TO CONTINUE FOLLOWING 
THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PUBLIC 
HEALTH OFFICIALS THAT WILL KEEP 
EVERYONE SAFE.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: AS I SAID, 
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES WITH 
A VIEW TO GRADUALLY RE-OPENING 
THE ECONOMY.
EVERY PROVINCE AND EVERY 
TERRITORY HAS A DIFFERENT 
REALITY.
BUT WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO 
ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL 
CANADIANS.
WE ARE ALL VERY ANXIOUS TO 
RETURN TO A NORMAL LIFE.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT, 
OTHERWISE WE RISK LOSING ALL 
THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE THUS 
FAR.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.
STAY HOME.
CONTINUE TO WASH YOUR HANDS 
FREQUENTLY.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO GO OUT, KEEP 
A TWO-METRE DISTANCE FROM YOU 
AND OTHERS.
EVERY DAY, WE GET CLOSER TO THE 
TIME WHEN ALL OF THIS WILL BE 
BEHIND US.
WE GET CLOSER TO THE TIME WHEN 
WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
BUT WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
LET'S PERSEVERE TOGETHER, 
FRIENDS.
THANK YOU.
>> [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: GOOD MORNING, 
PRIME MINISTER.
WITH RESPECT TO RE-OPENING THE 
ECONOMY, YOU JUST REFERED TO 
THAT, NOW IF THERE ARE 
VARIATIONS BETWEEN REGIONS AND 
BETWEEN PROVINCES, DO YOU 
BELIEVE THAT THE EMERGENCY 
MEASURES ACT IS SOMETHING YOU 
SHOULD CONSIDER TO AVOID 
UNNECESSARY TRAVEL OR MAYBE 
SHUTTING DOWN THE BORDERS 
BETWEEN PROVINCES?
WELL, AS I SAID BEFORE, I HOPE 
I WON'T NEED TO DO THAT AND I 
DON'T THINK I WILL AT THIS 
POINT IN TIME.
PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY FOLLOWING, 
OR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE 
FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS 
OF OUR HEALTH CARE EXPERTS AND 
THEIR PROVINCIAL AUTHORITIES.
THEY'RE LIMITING THEIR TRAVEL.
THEY'RE STAYING HOME.
AND I THINK PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
IT'S VERY RISKY TO START UP 
REGULAR ACTIVITIES TOO QUICKLY 
BECAUSE THEN WE COULD LOSE ALL 
THE PROGRESS THAT WE MADE WITH 
SUCH DIFFICULTY IN RECENT WEEKS.
WE MUST BE CAREFUL AND I THINK 
CANADIANS KNOW THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE 
NECESSARY TOOLS TO ENSURE THAT 
THINGS SHOULD WORK AS THEY 
SHOULD.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: AS I 
SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, I'M 
LOATHED TO USE THE EMERGENCY 
MEASURES ACT AND UP UNTIL THIS 
POINT IT HAS NOT BEEN NECESSARY.
I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 
FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES, 
INSTRUCTIONS OF PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS, OF PROVINCIAL AND 
FEDERAL INSTRUCTIONS.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING THE 
THINGS NECESSARY TO KEEP 
THEMSELVES SAFE, TO KEEP THEIR 
NEIGHBOURS SAFE, TO KEEP HEALTH 
WORKERS SAFE.
TO LIMIT THEIR MOVEMENTS.
WE HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE THAT 
PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING AS WE 
RE-OPEN GRADUALLY.
I'M CERTAIN PEOPLE WILL WANT TO 
FOLLOW THESE MEASURES BECAUSE 
IF WE GET THIS WRONG, 
EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE, 
EVERYTHING WE HAVE SACRIFICED 
OVER THE PAST MANY WEEKS COULD 
HAVE BEEN IN VEIN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS 
CAREFULLY BASED ON ABSOLUTELY 
THE BEST SCIENTIFIC ADVICE.
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
TREP DID YOU SEE OR APPROVE THE 
PLANS THAT WILL BE UNVEILED BY 
QUEBEC AND ONTARIO TODAY?
AND COULD YOU GIVE US SOME 
CLEAR EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF 
GUIDELINES THAT PEOPLE WOULD 
HAVE TO FOLLOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OF 
INSTALLING PLEXIGLAS TO PROTECT 
THEIR EMPLOYEES.
CAN YOU GIVE US CONCRETE 
EXAMPLES OF THE MEASURES YOU 
ARE LOOKING AT?
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NOT UP TO  
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO 
APPROVE THE MEASURES THAT FALL 
WITHIN PROVINCIAL JURISDICTION.
WE REPRESENT THE AUTHORITY OF 
THE PROVINCES TO NATIONAL --  
TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE 
DECISIONS FOR ALL THEIR 
CITIZENS.
AND FROM ONE REGION TO THE 
NEXT, THE MEASURES WILL BE 
DIFFERENT.
TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
NOW WHAT WE ARE DEVELOPING IN 
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROVINCES 
IS A SERIES OF ESSENTIAL 
PRINCIPLES, THINGS LIKE YOU 
HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE 
ENOUGH TESTING CAPACITY TO 
RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY.
YOU MUST ENSURE THAT THERE ARE 
SPECIFIC CONDITIONS IN PLACE 
FOR CERTAIN INDUSTRIES OR 
ECONOMIC SECTORS THAT YOU'RE 
PLANNING TO OPEN.
THOSE ARE PRINCIPLES WE NEED TO 
FOLLOW.
BUT THE PROVINCES HAVE THE RIGHT
 AND THE OBLIGATION TO PUT 
FORWARD SPECIFIC THINGS THAT 
WORK FOR THEM.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
PROVINCES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO 
DETERMINE WHAT IS IN THE BEST 
INTEREST.
IT'S NOT UP TO THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO CHECK OR OVERSEE 
THE PROVINCES.
AND MUCH OF THIS FALLS WITHIN 
THEIR AREA OF JURISDICTION.
THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO 
DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THEIR 
CITIZENS.
EVERY PROVINCE IS IN DIFFERENT 
SITUATIONS.
REGIONS WITHIN THE PROVINCES 
ARE IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND 
I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE 
PREMIERS OF THE PROVINCES AND 
THE TERRITORIES TO MOVE FORWARD 
IN A WAY THAT IS RIGHT FOR THEM.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH 
THE PROVINCES IS A SET OF 
GUIDELINES AND PRINCIPLES THAT 
CAN INFORM THE DECISION-MAKERS 
IN EACH REGION.
THINGS LIKE MAKE SURE THAT YOU 
HAVE ENOUGH MEDICAL CAPACITY TO 
HANDLE A POTENTIAL SURGE.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING ENOUGH 
TESTING FOR YOUR SITUATION AND 
HAVE A PLAN TO DO MORE.
MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE 
SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN PLACE 
FOR SPECIFIC SECTORS OR 
INDUSTRIES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE 
TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
IT'S NOT UP TO THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT 
THOSE ARE.
WE HAVE TREMENDOUS CONFIDENCE 
IN THE PROVINCES WHO VERY MUCH 
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS 
HAPPENS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND THAT WE DON'T FALL BACK 
INTO ANOTHER PHASE LIKE WE'RE 
IN THIS TIME AS WE GRADUALLY 
OPEN UP.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION, OPERATOR.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN, CANADIAN 
PRESS.
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CERB AND 
THE WAGE SUBSIDY CAN'T BOTH BE 
RECEIVED BY PEOPLE.
HOW DO YOU SEE THEM 
COMPLEMENTING EACH OTHER AND 
ARE YOU NOT WORRIED THAT 
WORKERS WILL BE CAUGHT IN THE 
MIDDLE AND MANY OF THEM WILL 
END UP HAVING TO PAY ONE OR THE 
OTHER OF THEM BACK?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THEY 
ARE -- THE WAGE SUBSIDY AND THE 
CERB ARE DESIGNED TO SUPPORT 
WORKERS, TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO 
HAVE LOST THEIR PAYCHEQUES.
FOR SOMEONE WHO'S LOST THEIR 
JOB, WHOSE EMPLOYERS CAN'T HIRE 
THEM BACK WITH THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY, THE CERB IS THERE TO 
GIVE THEM $500 A WEEK, $2,000 A 
MONTH SO THAT THEY CAN PAY FOR 
THEIR GROCERIES AND MAKE IT 
THROUGH THIS TOUGH TIME WHILE 
THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY SORT 
OF PAYCHEQUE.
BUT WE ALSO REALISED THAT IT IS 
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR RESTORING 
OUR ECONOMIC ACTIVITY TO FULL 
POTENTIAL AS QUICKLY AS 
POSSIBLE, THAT IDEALLY PEOPLE 
STAY CONNECTED TO THEIR JOBS.
THAT THEY STAY CONNECTED WITH 
THEIR EMPLOYERS AND THAT IS WHY 
WE'RE FACILITATING A WAGE 
SUBSIDY UP TO 75%, THAT IS UP 
TO $847 A WEEK, THAT WILL GO 
THROUGH THE EMPLOYERS SO THAT 
PEOPLE CAN STAY ON THE PAYROLL 
AND STAY CONNECTED TO THEIR JOB 
SO THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT 
THEY'LL HAVE THAT JOB WHEN WE 
HAVE TIME -- WHEN WE'RE AT THE 
TIME TO COME BACK AS AN ECONOMY.
THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT 
MEASURES THAT AIM TO DO THE 
SAME SORTS OF THINGS -- MAKE 
SURE FAMILIES AND WORKERS ARE 
ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THIS 
TIME WHILE DOING THE IMPORTANT 
-- THE RIGHT THINGS TO KEEP 
THEMSELVES SAFE AND TO MAKE 
SURE THAT OUR ECONOMY COMES 
BACK STRONG.
BUT IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER.
BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY, 
BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATION 
PROCESS, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT 
PEOPLE WILL HAVE RECEIVED BOTH 
THE CERB AND THE WAGE SUBSIDY.
IN THAT CASE, THAT  -- THEY 
WILL HAVE TO, OVER THE COURSE 
OF THE COMING MONTHS, PAY HAVE 
TO ONE BACK.
YOU SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND.
IF YOU ARE GETTING BOTH, YOU 
SHOULD PROBABLY PUT ONE ASIDE 
SO YOU CAN PAY THAT BACK AND 
DON'T GET OVERLY CHALLENGED 
WITH THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT GETTING 
MONEY OUT TO PEOPLE QUICKLY AND 
STRONGLY, RELIABLY WAS THE MOST 
IMPORTANT THING AND THAT IS 
WHAT WE DID.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEPS 
AS WE GO AND MAKE SURE THAT 
IT'S FAIR FOR EVERYONE.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: WE CREATED TWO 
DIFFERENT PROGRAMMES TO HELP 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR 
PAYCHEQUE.
FIRST OF ALL, THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT THAT 
GIVES PEOPLE $2,000 A MONTH IF 
THEY HAVE LOST THEIR JOB.
NOW WE ALSO KNOW THAT, IDEALLY, 
PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP 
THEIR JOB IN ORDER TO BE ABLE 
TO RETURN ONCE THE ECONOMY IS 
FIRED UP AGAIN.
AND THAT WAY THEY CAN RETAIN 
THEIR JOB ATTACHMENT AND THAT 
IS WHY WE BROUGHT IN THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY.
WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING UP 
TO 75% OF EMPLOYEES' WAGES TO 
EMPLOYERS SO THAT THEY CAN 
CONTINUE TO PAY UP TO $847 A 
WEEK TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT WAY WHEN THE ECONOMY 
RE-OPENS, PEOPLE WILL STILL 
HAVE THAT JOB ATTACHMENT AND 
WE'LL KNOW THAT THEY CAN TROURN 
WORK.
-- THEY CAN RETURN TO WORK.
SO, THOSE TWO MEASURES MEAN 
THAT IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER.
NOW WITH THE EMERGENCY BENEFIT, 
SOME PEOPLE MAY END UP 
RECEIVING BOTH.
BUT IN THAT CASE, THEY WILL 
HAVE TO -- PROBABLY REPAY THE 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT IF 
THEY'VE RECEIVED BOTH.
SO PUT THAT MONEY ASIDE AND 
WE'LL RESOLVE THAT IN THE 
FUTURE.
FOR NOW WE DECIDED IT WAS 
IMPORTANT TO GET OUT TO PEOPLE 
QUICKLY AND SAFELY AND THAT IS 
WHAT WE DO.
>> Reporter: DO YOU THINK 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR AND 
RECEIVING THE CERB WILL 
SUDDENLY BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO 
THE WAGE SUBSIDY AND IS THAT 
NOT COMPLICATE AND ARE THERE 
THINGS WITHIN THE PROGRAMME TO 
PREVENT DOUBLE PAYMENTS SO THAT 
THERE ISN'T CONFUSION ABOUT WHO 
HAS TO PAY WHAT BACK?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: THE 
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE A 
CLEAR RECORD OF WHO GETS WHAT.
IT WILL OBVIOUSLY HELP IN 
SORTING THIS OUT IN THE COMING 
MONTHS.
THE WAGE SUBSIDY IS RETROACTIVE 
TO MARCH 15.
BUT AS OF THE DATE THAT THE 
CERB CAME IN, A NUMBER OF 
PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW IF OR 
WHETHER THEY WERE GOING GET AN 
EVENTUAL WAGE SUBSIDY AND SO 
APPLIED FOR IT.
THE CERB IS COMING UP ON A 
REAPPLICATION MOMENT AND IF 
PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING THAT WAGE 
SUBSIDY, THEY SHOULDN'T 
RE-APPLY FOR THE CERB, THE 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT.
IT IS A SITUATION THAT IS 
COMPLEX, BUT IT IS ADMINISTERED 
BY, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT 
PROCESSES WITHIN GOVERNMENT 
THAT CAN CLEAR TO KEEP SEPARATE.
IF YOU APPLY THROUGH YOUR 
EMPLOYER -- OR YOUR EMPLOYER 
APPLIES FOR THE WAGE SUBSIDY, 
THAT MONEY WILL FLOW FOR YOU 
AND YOU NO LONGER NEED TO APPLY 
FOR THE CERB AND NO LONGER 
QUALIFY FOR THE CERB.
OK.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: THIS IS A 
SITUATION WHERE WE WANTED TO 
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WOULD 
RECEIVE MONEY QUICKLY AND THAT 
IS WHY WE INTRODUCED THE 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT.
BUT AS PEOPLE RECEIVE THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY, THEY'LL NO LONGER NEED 
THE CERB AND WILL NO LONGER 
APPLY TO RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT.
AND WE HAVE ROBUST SYSTEMS IN 
GOVERNMENT TO DETERMINE WHO 
RECEIVED WHAT AND WHO RECEIVED 
BOTH BENEFITS.
IN THAT CASE, THEY WILL HAVE TO 
REPAY ONE.
FOR THE TIME BEING, WE DECIDED 
IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET 
MORE MONEY OUT TO MORE PEOPLE 
IN THIS CRISIS BECAUSE WE KNOW 
THAT PEOPLE NEED SUPPORT.
WE KNEW WE HAD TO MAKE CHOICES 
AND THE CHOICE HAS BEEN TO SEND 
MORE MONEY OUT TO PEOPLE 
QUICKLY WAS N MY OPINION, THE 
RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE ECONOMY 
AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE NEXT 
STEPS TOGETHER IN TERMS OF 
REPAYMENT.
>> Reporter:
>> [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
MERCI.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: I'D LIKE TO 
COME BACK TO MY COLLEAGUE'S 
QUESTION FROM TVA ABOUT THE 
RELAXATION OF LOCKDOWN.
IN QUEBEC THEY TALKED ABOUT 
HERD IMMUNITY TO FACILITATE THE 
RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS.
NOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE SERIOUS 
DOUBTS ABOUT THAT CONCEPT, 
INCLUDING DR.S TAM.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE 
RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS IN QUEBEC 
WOULD BE PREMATURE?
NOW THERE ARE STILL MANY, MANY 
QUESTIONS ABOUT HERD IMMUNITY 
OR EVEN INDIVIDUAL IMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT 
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INFECTED 
BY THE VIRUS WILL NOT BE ABLE 
TO BECOME INFECTED A FEW MONTHS 
LATER.
THIS IS TOO NEW A VIRUS TO HAVE 
ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.
SO, THAT IS WHY WE ARE 
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE VERY 
CAREFUL IN RE-OPENING THE 
ECONOMY AND IT'S ALSO THE 
REASON WHY WE INTRODUCED AN 
IMMUNITY TASK FORCE ON COVID-19.
THIS IS A TASK FORCE THAT WILL 
BE BASED IN MONTREAL, AS A 
MATTER OF FACT, AND THEY WILL 
BE DOING THE NECESSARY RESEARCH 
TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING 
OF THE IMMUNITY ASPECT OF 
THINGS AND HOW WE CAN USE THAT 
TO PROTECT CANADIANS.
BUT THIS IS A MID-TO-LONG-TERM 
PROJECT.
FOR THE TIME BEING, WE HAVE TO 
BE VERY CAREFUL AND I KNOW THAT 
ALL THE PROVINCES ARE NOW BEING 
VERY CAREFUL ABOUT RE-OPENING 
THE ECONOMY IN THE RIGHT WAY, 
BUT WE DON'T WANT A SETBACK.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau:s WE 
KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF 
UNCERTAINTY AROUND THE SCIENCE 
OF IMMUNITY.
WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE WHO HAS 
CONTRACTED COVID-19 IS 
PROTECTED FROM CONTRACTING IT 
AGAIN A FEW MONTHS LATER.
THAT IS STILL UNCERTAIN.
THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH AND 
SCIENCE GOING ON ON THAT TOPIC 
-- ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AROUND 
THE WORLD.
WE LAUNCHED THE PAN-CANADIAN 
TASK FORCE ON IMMUNITY FROM 
COVID-19 JUST LAST WEEK.
SO, WE HAVE TOP SCIENTISTS THAT 
ARE GOING TO BE WORKING 
EXTREMELY HARD TO FIGURE OUT 
WHAT IS THE REALITY AROUND 
IMMUNITY IN CANADA AND HOW WE 
CAN USE IT TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFER.
BUT THIS IS A WORK THAT WILL GO 
ON AND WILL HAVE IMMEDIATE 
RESULTS IN SOME LEVELS.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE VERY, 
VERY CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS EVERY 
STEP OF THE WAY IN RE-OPENING 
THE ECONOMY BECAUSE WE DON'T 
WANT TO COME BACK TO WHERE WE 
ARE.
AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT 
EVERY PROVINCE IS TAKING VERY 
SERIOUSLY THIS RESPONSIBILITY 
TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE NOBODY 
WANTS TO HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL 
OF THIS FOR NOTHING.
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
TREP AS A SUBQUESTION, YOU 
MENTIONED THAT WEDNESDAY, THE 
PARLIAMENT WILL BE HAVING AN 
IN-PERSON SESSION.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 
LEGISLATION ON STUDENTS.
NOW CAN WE EXPECT THAT 
LEGISLATION TO BE DEBATED AND 
PASSED ON WEDNESDAY, AND IF 
NOT, IS IT BECAUSE THERE IS 
SOMETHING THAT'S BLOCKING?
IT IS OUR INTENTION TO MOVE 
FORWARD WITH THAT LEGISLATION 
TO HELP STUDENTS.
AND OVER THE WEEKEND, WE 
DISCUSSED THE SITUATION WITH 
THE OTHER PARTIES AND WE ARE 
WORKING WITH THEM.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING 
THAT LEGISLATION PASSED.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT MEASURE AND 
PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT MANY 
STUDENTS WILL NOT HAVE ANY JOB 
THIS IS SUMMER AND WE NEED TO 
SUPPORT THEM DURING THIS PERIOD.
NOT JUST SO THEY CAN PAY FOR 
THEIR GROCERIES AND RENT THESE 
MONTHS BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE WANT 
THEM TO STAY IN SCHOOL AND BE 
ABLE TO PAY THEIR TUITIONS FOR 
NEXT YEAR AND THE YEARS AFTER 
THAT.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO 
DO.
>> Operator: NEXT QUESTION , 
CARMAC McSWEENEY.
>> Reporter: YOU'VE BEEN 
TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL 
GUIDELINES FOR PROVINCES TO 
FOLLOW IN TERMS OF RE-OPENING 
THEIR ECONOMY.
WE'RE EXPECTING PLANS FROM 
ONTARIO AND QUEBEC AND WE HEARD 
PLANS FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND NEW 
BRUNSWICK.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE 
THE FULL LIST OF FEDERAL 
GUIDELINES?
I KNOW YOU GAVE SOME EXAMPLES 
EARLIER, BUT THE FULL LIST OF 
FEDERAL GUIDELINES BECAUSE, YOU 
KNOW, WE HAVE NEARLY HALF THE 
PROVINCES NOW RELEASING THEIR 
PLANS.
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE 
PROVINCES OVER THE PAST WEEKS 
TO DEVELOP A SHARED SET OF 
GUIDELINES.
THESE WILL NOT BE FEDERAL 
GUIDELINES.
THEY WILL BE GUIDELINES THAT WE 
AGREED TO, ALL OF US, 13 
PREMIERS AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER, ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT 
ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT TO 
OURSELVES GOING FORWARD.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO WORK 
TOGETHER TO GIVE CANADIANS A 
FRAME IN WHICH THEY CAN SEE THE 
ACTIONS BEING TAKEN IN THEIR 
PARTICULAR REGIONS.
AND IT IS HISTORIC THE LEVEL OF 
COLLABORATION BETWEEN PROVINCES 
AND TERRITORIES IN THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS GOING TO 
CONTINUE.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON 
FINALIZING THOSE GUIDELINES AND 
HOPE TO HAVE THEM OUT IN THE 
COMING DAYS SO CANADIANS CAN 
SEE THEM.
I CAN TELL YOU ALREADY THE 
THINKING THAT HAS GONE INTO 
BUILDING THOSE SHARED 
GUIDELINES WITH THE PROVINCES 
AND TERRITORIES IS ALREADY 
INFORMING THE DECISIONS THAT 
THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH IN 
ANNOUNCING RE-OPENING PLANS.
>> FOLLOWING UP, CARMAC?
>> Reporter: AND, YEAH.
JUST WONDERING AS WELL YOU'VE 
ANNOUNCED COMMERCIAL RENT 
RELIEF FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, 
MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY.
AND PREMIER DOUG FORD HAS 
CALLED FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL 
RENT RELIEF.
IS THAT ON THE TABLE FOR THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
IS IT IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW 
WITH THE PROVINCES?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
RECOGNIZE THAT CANADIANS NEED 
MONEY FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF 
THINGS.
PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY NO 
LONGER HAVE A PAYCHEQUE COMING 
IN.
WHETHER IT'S RENT, WHETHER IT'S 
GROCERIES, WHETHER IT'S 
SUPPORTING THEIR FAMILY 
MEMBERSFUL THAT IS WHY WE MOVE 
FORWARD RAPIDLY ON THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY RESPONSE BENEFIT AND 
THE 75% WAGE SUBSIDY THAT 
APPLICATIONS HAVE LAUNCHED 
TODAY FOR.
THESE ARE MEANT TO REPLACE 
INCOME THAT CANADIANS WON'T 
HAVE COMING IN OVER THE COURSE 
OF THIS ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN AND 
THAT CAN BE USED FOR RENT, FOR 
GROCERIES, FOR A RANGE OF 
THINGS.
IF PROVINCES IN WHOM THE 
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RENTERS 
AND LANDLORDS IS THEIR 
JURISDICTION, WANT TO MOVE 
FORWARD WITH MORE HELP FOR 
RESIDENTIAL RENT, THEY CAN, OF 
COURSE,, DO THAT.
WE WILL FOCUS ON GIVING THE 
BENEFITS TO CANADIANS THAT WILL 
REPLACE AS MUCH OF THEIR 
PAYCHEQUES SO THAT THEY CAN PAY 
THEIR ESSENTIALS.
SMALL BUSINESSES NEEDED EXTRA 
SUPPORT FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL 
RENTS ON TOP OF THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE 
DONE.
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING.
ONE OF THE GROUPS STILL FEELING 
ISOLATED AND VULNERABLE ARE 
SENIORS.
MANY HAVE HAD TO ABSORB THE 
EXTRA COST OF DELIVERY SERVICES 
ON A FIXED INCOME AND OTHERS 
HAVE TO PAY ADDITIONAL 
DISPENSING FEES AT THE PHARMACY.
LAST WEEK YOU SAID HELP WAS 
COMING.
HOW MUCH LONGER DO SENIORS HAVE 
TO WAIT?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau:s WE 
KNEW THAT MOVING FORWARD ON 
REPLACING PEOPLE WHO LOST AND 
WERE COUNTING ON THEIR 
PAYCHEQUES THROUGH COVID-19 WAS 
THE PRIORITY.
AND THAT IS WHY WE MOVED 
FORWARD WITH THE CERB AND THE 
WAGE SUBSIDY WHICH LAUNCHES 
TODAY.
WE THEN RECOGNIZED THAT 
STUDENTS WHO OFTEN START THEIR 
SUMMER JOBS IN EARLY MAY AFTER 
FINISHING THEIR TERM AT 
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION, 
NEEDED HELP AS WELL.
WHICH IS WHY WE'RE MOVING 
FORWARD ON THAT.
THERE IS HEALTH VULNERABLE, 
THERE IS BEING ISOLATED FURTHER 
AND CHALLENGES AROUND MENTAL 
HEALTH AND ISOLATION.
AND DIFFICULTTY SOMETIMES 
GETTING GROCERIES AND GETTING 
THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED.
WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD ON A 
NUMBER OF THINGS TO ENSURE THAT 
THEY GET SUPPORTS BUT WE'RE 
ALSO LOOKING AT FURTHER 
SUPPORTS, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 
MOST LOW-INCOME SENIORS WHO ARE 
TRULY CHALLENGED.
>> Reporter: CAN YOU OUTLINE 
THE OPTIONS THAT YOU ARE 
LOOKING SENATE >> Prime 
Minister Trudeau: AS I SAID, 
WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE 
SUPPORTS FOR THE MOST 
VULNERABLE SENIORS THAT ARE 
INCURRING EXTRA COSTS BECAUSE 
OF COVID-19 AND WE'LL KEEP 
WORKING ON THAT AND HAVE MORE 
TO SAY SOON.
>> Reporter: TOM PERRY, C *FJS 
MUNICIPALITIES TAKING A BIG HIT 
DURING THE PANDEMIC.
HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO 
HELPING THEM?
IF YOU DO, HOW WOULD THAT WORK 
WITH THE PROVINCES?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: WE 
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE 
PROVINCES ON THE CHALLENGES 
THAT THEY'RE FACING.
WE SEE MUNICIPALITIES ABSORBING 
MANY EXTRA COSTS BECAUSE OF 
COVID-19.
THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF 
THE PROVINCES.
OF COURSE.
AND WE REPRESENT THE 
CONSTITUTIONAL DIVISION OF 
POWERS IN THIS COUNTRY.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE 
LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE SURE 
THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE 
NECESSARY FLEXIBILITY AND TOOLS 
TO KEEP THEIR CITIZENS SAFE AND 
TO DELIVER NECESSARY SERVICES.
BUT THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS 
THAT WE'RE ONGOING WITH THE 
PROVINCES.
>> Reporter: CAN I ASK YOU AS 
WELL, WHEN THE ECONOMY STARTS 
TO RE-OPEN GRADUALLY, YOU'RE 
GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF 
BUSINESSS THAT WILL BE ON THE 
MARKET FOR PERSONAL PROTECTIVE 
EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND FOR IT 
OUT THERE ALREADY.
ARE YOU MAKING ANY PLANS TO 
DEAL WITH THAT?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau:s 
EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY WEEK, 
WE ARE RAMPING UP OUR SUPPLIES 
OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE 
EQUIPMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN ENSURING THAT, AS 
MUCH AS POSSIBLE, OUR HEALTH 
CARE WORKERS, OUR FRONTLINE 
ESSENTIAL WORKERS GET THE 
EQUIPMENT THEY NEED TO KEEP 
THEMSELVES SAFE.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT RE-OPENING 
THE ECONOMY IN DIFFERENT PARTS 
OF THE COUNTRY, WE KNOW THAT 
THERE IS GOING TO BE AN 
INCREASED DEMAND FOR PERSONAL 
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
THAT IS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES 
AND GUIDELINES WE HAVE TO KEEP 
IN MIND AS WE LOOK AT 
RE-OPENING.
WILL THERE BE ENOUGH P.P.E. FOR 
VARIOUS SECTORS TO OPEN UP AND 
THAT IS A PIECE OF IT.
WE ARE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE A 
SHIPMENT OF P.P.E. EVERY DAY ON 
FLIGHTS FROM CHINA THIS WEEK.
WE ARE RAMPING UP OUR DOMESTIC 
PRODUCTION CAPACITIES FOR 
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT 
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IS GOING 
TO BE AN IMPORTANT SOURCE FOR 
CANADIAN BUSINESSES AND 
CANADIAN INDUSTRY IN THE COMING 
MONTHS.
THESE ARE ALL A THINGS WE'RE 
DOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TAKE 
THE DECISIONS THAT WILL 
GRADUALLY RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY 
WHILE KEEPING CANADIANS SAFE.
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: NOW WITH 
RESPECT TO THE EMERGENCY 
BENEFIT AND CERB, WILL YOU BE 
MAKING AN INCENTIVE TO RETURN 
TO WORK?
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU GO TO 
WORK YOU CANNOT RECEIVE THE 
$2,000.
YOU HAVE TO WORK A LOT MORE 
HOURS AND THAT IS NOT AN 
INCENTIVE TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO 
WORK FULL TIME.
EMPLOYERS AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING 
THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT 
FOSTERS A DESIRE TO RETURN TO 
WORK.
WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT?
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A LOCKDOWN 
BECAUSE OF COVID-19.
THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH JOBS FOR 
CANADIANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THE 
CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF AN 
INCENTIVE TO WORK AND WE'RE 
TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THE 
INDUSTRIS THAT NEED WORKERS 
WILL BE ABLE TO SECURE THEM.
BUT WE ARE FACING THE SITUATION 
WHERE MILLIONS OF CANADIANS 
CANNOT RECEIVE A PAYCHEQUE FOR 
THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE.
THEREFORE, WE NEED TO SUPPORT 
THEM.
THERE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH JOBS 
FOR CANADIANS.
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH JOBS FOR 
STUDENTS.
SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM.
THAT IS THE DECISION THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT HAD TO MAKE.
BUT WAY NOT MAKE IT MORE 
FLEXIBLE?
WHY NOT PROVIDE MORE 
FLEXIBILITIES SO SOMEONE CAN 
GET PART OF THE BENEFIT BUT 
ALSO GO WORK IN A SENIORS HOME 
FOR SEVERAL HOURS AND THAT WAY 
WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO 
WORK WHERE WE NEED THEM TO WORK.
CAN WE NOT HAVE THAT 
FLEXIBILITY?
WE DID REFLECT ON THAT FROM THE 
BEGINNING TO -- IN TERMS OF THE 
RIGHT INDUSTRIES AND HOW TO 
PROCEED.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT WE HAD TO 
GET THAT BENEFIT OUT TO PEOPLE 
QUICKLY SO THEY COULD PAY FOR 
THEIR RENT OR PAY FOR THEIR 
GROCERIES AND PARTICULARLY SO 
THEY COULD MAKE THE CHOICE OF 
STAYING AT HOME AND 
SELF-ISOLATING AND, THERE 
PHOBE, PROTECTING THE HEALTH 
CARE WORKERS AND THEIR 
NEIGHBOURS.
IF WE HAD NOT PROVIDED ADEQUATE 
SUPPORT TO WORKERS IN ORDER TO 
REPLACE THEIR LOST PAYCHEQUE, 
THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO 
BE MORE VULNERABLE IN ORDER TO 
HELP THEIR FAMILIES AND THAT 
WOULD HAVE EXTENDED THE 
PANDEMIC AND THE CRISIS WE'RE 
CURRENTLY IN.
AND I KNOW THAT MORE THAN EIGHT 
MILLION CANADIANS ARE NOW 
RECEIVING THE EMERGENCY 
RESPONSE BENEFIT AND EVERY 
ELEMENT OF COMPLEXITY IS 
INCREASING THE RISK OF GETTING 
IT OUT QUICKLY SO THAT PEOPLE 
COULD GET THAT SUPPORT.
AS A RESULT, WE DECIDED TO GO 
FORWARD QUICKLY AND TO MAKE 
THINGS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
>> Reporter: HELLO, PRIME 
MINISTER.
OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF WEEKS 
YOU SAID THAT LIFE WILL NOT 
RETURN TO NORMAL UNTIL WE GET A 
VACCINE.
WE ASKED DR. TAM ABOUT 
QUESTIONS OVER THE WEEKEND.
SHE SAID, AND THIS IS A QUOTE, 
IT'S PREMATURE TO COMMENT ON IF 
WE'LL GET A VACCINE.
IF WE DO, HOW EFFECTIVE IT WILL 
BE.
SO, CONSIDERING HER CAUTIOUS 
WORDS ON OUR ABILITY TO GET A 
VACCINE, IS IT STILL YOUR 
POSITION THAT LIFE WILL  RETURN 
TO NORMAL FONT  -- ONLY IF WE 
DO GET ONE?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau: 
NORMAL IS SOMETHING THAT IS A 
LONG WAY OFF FOR ALL OF US AND 
IF WE WANT LIFE TO GET BACK TO 
THE WAY IT WAS EXACTLY BEFORE, 
IT WON'T.
THERE WILL BE DIFFERENCES EVEN 
A FEW YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE 
WILL HAVE LEARNED FROM DEALING 
WITH THIS GLOBAL PAN DEMOCRATIC 
THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT LESSONS.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD OVER THE 
COMING MONTHS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO 
SEE CAREFUL RE-OPENINGS IN 
CERTAIN SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY.
CERTAIN THINGS BEING ALLOWED AS 
PEOPLE TRY TO GET BACK TO 
SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE LIKE 
NORMAL.
BUT UNTIL WE HAVE A VACCINE FOR 
COVID-19ER OR A SYSTEM OF 
TREATMENTS THAT ARE EQUIVALENT 
TO A VACCINE WHERE WE CAN BE 
SURE THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT BE, 
YOU KNOW, WILL NOT HAVE 
COVID-19 BE AS LETHAL AS IT IS 
NOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE 
VERY CAREFUL.
THAT CAUTION WILL REMAIN 
BECAUSE, AT ANY TIME, IF WE 
LOOSEN OUR MEASURES TOO MUCH, 
WE COULD FIND OURSELVES BACK IN 
A TREMENDOUS SPIKE.
HISTORIANS REMEMBER FROM THE 
1918 SPANISH FLU EPIDEMIC THAT 
THE SPRING WAS PRETTY BAD.
BUT THE FALL WAS MUCH WORSE.
WE NEED TO STAY VIGILANT EVERY 
STEP OF THE WAY.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED 
ON SO THAT THIS DISRUPTION TO 
OUR ECONOMY, TO OUR LIVES THAT 
IS DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH 
RIGHT NOW WILL NOT HAVE BEEN 
FOR NOTHING AND WE WILL 
CONTINUE TO KEEP OURSELVES SAFE 
FOR THE COMING MONTHS.
OK.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: WHAT IS A 
NORMAL LIFE WILL TAKE A LONG 
TIME TO RETURN AND EVEN AT THIS 
POINT IN TWO OR THREE YEARS 
FROM NOW, EVEN ONCE A VACCINE 
AGAINST COVID-19 IS AVAILABLE, 
WE WILL HAVE CHANGED OUR 
BEHAVIOUR.
WE WILL HAVE TAKEN MEASURES AS 
A SOCIETY THAT WILL BE 
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE USED TO 
DO.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO START 
UP CERTAIN ACTIVITIES IN THE 
MONTHS TO COME.
THAT WILL MEAN THAT THERE IS 
SOME RELAXATION ON THE CURRENT 
LOCKDOWNMENT BUT I THINK WE 
HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
UNTIL WE HAVE A VACCINE OR 
UNTIL WE HAVE TREATMENTS THAT 
ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A VACCINE 
THAT CAN KEEP US SAFE, AND THAT 
CAN ALLOW US NOT TO BE SO 
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPREAD OF 
COVID-19, UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, 
THERE IS STILL A THERE WILL BE 
A SPIKE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES.
IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL.
AND IF WE DO NOT FOLLOW THE 
PUBLIC HEALTH RECOMMENDATIONS.
HISTORIANS REMIND US THAT THE 
SPANISH FLU EPIDEMIC IN 1918 
INVOLVED A VERY BAD SPRING.
BUT AN ABSOLUTELY DISASTER 
RIGHT NOW FALL.
AND THAT IS WHY WE MUST REMAIN 
INDIVIDUAL  -- VIGILANT AND WE 
MUST BE VERY CAREFUL TO NOT 
LOSE ALL THE PROGRESS WE'VE 
MADE THUS FAR WHEN IT COMES TO 
LIMITING THE SPREAD OF THE 
VIRUS.
>> Reporter: THERE'S BEEN THE 
DISCUSSION OF A HEALTH PASS 
PORT THAT ALLOW BUSINESSES AND 
PEOPLE TO DETERMINE -- YOU 
WOULD SHOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU 
HAD COVID-19.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED EARLIER 
THAT SCIENCE IS STILL OUT ON 
IMMUNITY AND ANTI-BODY TESTS.
BUT THE IDEA OF CANADIANS 
HAVING TO SHOW PERSONAL HEALTH 
INFORMATION IN EXCHANGE FOR 
GOING BACK TO WORK, GOING BACK 
TO SCHOOL, IS THAT AN IDEA YOU 
ARE COMFORTABLE WITH?
>> Prime Minister Trudeau:s 
THAT IS EVEN PREMATURE TO 
SPECULATE ABOUT.
THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE 
RIGHT NOW THAT, HAVING CONTRACT 
COVID-19 ONCE PROTECTS YOU FROM 
CONTRACTING IT AGAIN A FEW 
MONTHS LATER.
THIS IS TOO NEW A VIRUS.
SCIENTISTS ARE WORKING VERY 
HARD ON EXACTLY THAT.
WHETHER THE PRESENCE OF 
ANTIBODIS IN SOMEONE WILL 
PROTECT THEM FROM CATCHING 
KOIFDS AGAIN.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET P. 
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE VERY, 
VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE IF WE MAKE 
A MISTAKE ON THIS, AND ALLOW 
TOO MUCH LOOSENING OF OUR 
ECONOMY AND OF OUR RESTRICTIONS 
AND WE SUDDENLY GET ANOTHER 
MASSIVE SPIKE, IT IS GOING TO 
BE DEVASTATING.
NOT JUST FOR OUR ECONOMY.
BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE 
GONE THROUGH ALL OF THESE WEEKS 
OF SACRIFICES AND LIMITATIONS 
FOR NOTHING.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO 
AVOID.
OK.
[SPEAKING FRENCH] 
>> Interpreter: IT'S PREMATURE 
TO TALK ABOUT PASS PORTS OR 
IMMUNITY BECAUSE WE STILL DO 
NOT KNOW WHETHER SOMEONE WHO 
HAS CONTRACTED COVID-19 IS 
PROTECTED FROM CONTRACTING IT 
SEVERAL MONTHS LATER.
THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE 
ON THAT.
NOW ONE DAY, PERHAPS SOON, WE 
MAY KNOW THAT.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE NOW.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE PRUDENT AT 
THIS TIME TO BASE OUR THINKING 
ON THE IDEA OF HERD IMMUNITY 
WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER 
THAT'S A REALITY OR NOT.
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Rosemary: THAT IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA GIVING US 
HIS DAILY BRIEFING TODAY.
THE FOCUS ON THE WAGE SUBSIDY 
PROGRAMME WHICH STARTS TODAY, 
WHICH BRINGS ME TO OUR NEXT 
GUEST WHO I'M GOING TO TRY TO 
SQUEEZE IN BEFORE THE TOP OF 
THE HOUR AND THAT IS MICHAEL 
CARMICHAEL.
WE HAVE SPOKE TO HIM BEFORE.
THE PRESIDENT OF C.E.A. UP AWE 
A TOE.
YOU LAID OFF MORE THAN HALF 
YOUR STAFF, MICHAEL.
DO YOU PLAN TO TAP INTO THIS 
PROGRAMME?
HAVE YOU ALREADY APPLIED THIS 
MORNING?
>> WE HAVE ALREADY APPLIED AND 
KEISHA, MY CONTROLLER, HAS BEEN 
ON THE SITE ALREADY AND IT IS A 
PROGRAMME WE'RE VERY EXCITED 
ABOUT AND TO HAVE BROUGHT 10 
PEOPLE BACK ON BECAUSE OF IT.
>> Rosemary: HAS YOUR 
APPLICATION GONE THROUGH?
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW EASY 
OR DIFFICULT IT WAS?
>> I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE 
VARIOUS MECHANICS OF WHAT 
CATEGORIES OF KIND OF WAGES ARE 
COVERED AND A JUST KIND OF 
DOING THE MATH TO FIGURE OUT 
WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO'S THE NET 
BENEFICIARY OF THE PROGRAMME 
HAS BEEN SOME -- YOU KNOW, 
THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT AND 
LEARNING ON THAT ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I THINK ONCE WE GET THE 
MECHANICS OF EQUATION DOWN, IT 
IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
>> Rosemary: SO THAT IS 10 
PEOPLE YOU CAN BRING BACK.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE BRINGING MORE 
PEOPLE BACK OR ARE THERE PEOPLE 
PAID OUTSIDE THE SUBSIDY AND 
THEN BECOMES TOO COSTLY FOR YOU 
TO BRING THEM BACK, MAKING YOU 
MAKE UP PART OF THE DIFFERENCE.
>> IT COMES DOWN TO BALANCING 
BETWEEN WHO IS, YOU KNOW, 
RELATIVE TO BEING ON THE CERB 
VERSUS COMING BACK.
SOME PEOPLE, IT IS A MATERIAL 
DIFFERENCE.
AS I MADE THOSE CALLS LAST WEEK 
TO FOLKS BRINGING BACK ON IT, 
YOU KNOW THERE'S MORE MONTHERLY 
CASH FLOW TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE 
SUPPORTING THE LOCAL 
RESTAURANTS AND, YOU KNOW, DO 
WHAT YOU CAN TO GET THE ECONOMY 
GOING WITH THIS INCREASE OF 
CASH FLOW AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE 
PRIME MINISTER SAID, IT IS 
CRITICAL TO KEEP FOLKS KOEKTED 
TO US AS THE EMPLOYER AND KEEP 
THE DIALOGUE AND THE 
RELATIONSHIP GOING AND MAKE 
PEOPLE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY 
HAVE A ROLE TO COME BACK TO AND 
THAT IS A MAJOR PLANK OF WHAT 
THIS SUBSIDY ALLOWS US TO DO 
FROM A LIQUIDITY AND 
SURVIVABILITY, ULTIMATELY.
>> Rosemary: OK.
MICHAEL CARMICHAEL, SORRY I 
DIDN'T HAVE MORE TIME FOR YOU. 
APPRECIATE GETTING YOUR INSTANT 
REACTION AND GLAD IT WENT OK 
FOR YOU.
THAT'S MICHAEL CARMICHAEL, A 
CAR DEALERSHIP OWNER, WHO WILL 
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WAGE 
SUBSIDY PROGRAMME, BRINGING 
BACK 10 EMPLOYEES.
THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS MORE 
THAN 10,000 BUSINESSES HAVE 
APPLIED AS OF 6:00 A.M. THIS 
MORNING.
THAT ENDS OUR COVERAGE HERE ON 
CBC NEWS.
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WATCHING, CBC NEWS NETWORK, 
cbcnews.ca.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
>> Rosemary: HI, AGAIN.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON NEAR OTTAWA.
JOIN JOIN ON CBC NEWS NETWORK, 
STREAMING WHEREVER YOU MIGHT BE 
IN THE WORLD, ON cbcnews.ca AND 
OUR CBC NEWS APP.
WE'RE TRACKING THE BIG 
DEVELOPMENTS ON COVID-19 AT 
THIS HOUR.
THE PRIME MINISTER CONFIRMING 
JUST MOMENTS AGO THAT 10,000 
BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY APPLIED 
FOR THE GOVERNMENT'S WAGE 
SUBSIDY PROGRAMME.
SUBSIDI WE'RE TRACKING ALL OF 
THOSE STORIES.
LET ME BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES, 
DAVID COCHRANE AND HOST OF 
"POWER & POLITICS", VASSY 
KAPELOS.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WAGE SUBSIDY, 
IF YOU LIKE.
I WOULDN'T MIND STARTING WITH 
THE THINGS THAT THE PRIME 
MINISTER SAID AROUND THE 
RE-OPENING OF THE ECONOMY AND 
SOME CLEAR MESSAGES HE HAD AS 
WELL AROUND THE NOTION OF HERD 
IMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING 
THAT DR. TAM WAS ASKED ABOUT ON 
THE WEEKEND BECAUSE IT IS A 
NOTION, CERTAINLY THAT -- I 
MEAN, IT EXISTS SCIENTIFICALLY, 
CERTAINLY.
BUT IN QUEBEC, THEY WERE SORT 
OF PREDICATING A RE-OPENING OF 
THE ECONOMY ON THAT IDEA.
AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE 
SCIENCE BACKS THAT UP FOR NOW.
I'LL GET BOTH OF YOU TO WEIGH 
IN ON THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT 
WAS SORT OF INTERESTING TO HEAR 
THE PRIME MINISTER.
VASSY?
>> Vassy: YEAH.
DR. TAM EARLIER THIS WEEKEND 
WAS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE 
SCIENCE DOESN'T BACK THAT UP AT 
THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
WE'VE SEEN SOME EVIDENCE OF 
THAT IN JURISDICTIONS AROUND 
THE WORLD, THAT DECIDED TO 
PURSUE THE HERD IMMUNITY ROUTE 
FROM THE START, THAT IT DIDN'T 
WORK AND THEY HAD TO BACKTRACK 
AND A END UP CLOSING THEIR 
ECONOMY LIKE OUR COUNTRY DID 
AND OTHER COUNTRIES, OF COURSE, 
IN THE WORLD.
I THINK THE OTHER INTERESTING 
THING TO HIT ON, THE PRIME 
MINISTER SAID IT WAS TOO EARLY 
TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND 
CONJUNCTIONALLY ALSO TALKED 
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT DR. 
TAM TALKED ABOUT THIS WEEKEND 
AND THAT IS AROUND HER 
HESITANCY TO PROCLAIM THE 
INEVITABILITY OF A VACCINE.
WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PRIME 
MINISTER THAT A FULL RETURN TO 
NORMAL WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL THERE 
IS A VACCINE.
THERE ISN'T ALWAYS A VACCINE.
I THINK IT IS UNPRECEDENTED 
WHAT DR. BOGOSH AND OTHER 
INFECTION DISEASE SPECIALISTS 
HAVE TOLD US, THE NUMBER OF 
TEAMS -- I THINK THERE IS 86 
AROUND THE WORLD WORKING ON THE 
POSSIBILITY OF THIS VACCINE.
IN NO WAY DO I WANT TO SAY IT 
IS NOT GOING HAPPEN.
BUT THERE ARE INSTANCES IN THE 
PAST WHERE NO VACCINE HAS BEEN 
FOUND AND YOU HEARD THE PRIME 
MINISTER AMEND A QUESTION 
SAYING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY 
KIND OF NORMALCY OR THAT FULL 
RETURN TO NORMAL, I'M 
PARAPHRASING FOR A SECOND.
BUT UNLESS THERE'S A VACCINE OR 
A SUITE OR SET OF TREATMENTS 
THAT CAN HELP MITIGATE THE 
PUBLIC HEALTH EFFECTS OF THIS 
-- OF THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS 
SO I THINK IT IS SORT OF 
INTERESTING AS WE FOLLOW THIS 
ALMOST BOUNCING BALL TO KNOW 
THAT THERE ISN'T A GUARANTEE OF 
A SET OF TREATMENTS OR VACCINES 
WHICH IS UNNERVING BECAUSE 
WE'RE BEING TOLD SO CONSTANTLY 
THAT WHILE WE CAN CAREFULLY 
RE-OPEN SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, 
WE WON'T BE LIVING A NORMAL 
LIFE WHERE WE'RE TRAVELING OR 
ALL BUSINESSS ARE OPEN OR 
SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER 
CLOSELY IN A RESTAURANT UNTIL 
THERE IS SOME SORT OF TREATMENT 
OR SOME KIND OF VACCINE.
AGAIN WITH THE CAVEAT THAT 
THERE ARE SO MANY SCIENTIST AND 
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF 
SCIENTISTS WORKING ON IT RIGHT 
NOW.
>> Rosemary: THERE IS A GOOD 
STORY ON "THE NATIONAL" LAST 
NIGHT AND ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT 
NOW ABOUT THE MANY CANADIAN 
SCIENTISTS THAT ARE DOING THAT 
BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT PUNCHED 
A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT AS 
WOEL.
I THINK LAST WEEK IT WAS MAYBE 
DR. TAM WHO MADE THE COMPARISON 
TO AIDS OR MAYBE IT WAS YOU, 
DAY.
-- YOU, DAVID, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW 
AIDS DOESN'T HAVE A VACCINE, 
BUT THERE IS PLENTY OF 
TREATMENT NOW FOR PEOPLE WHO 
ARE H.I.V. POSITIVE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, 
WHERE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING 
BUT I THINK YOUR SPOINLS A GOOD 
ONE, VASSY, THAT WE MIGHT BE 
LOOKING JUST FOR SOME WAY TO 
PROTECT OURSELVES OR HEAL AS 
OPPOSED TO A VACCINE.
DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO.
DAVID, LOTS OF TALK THERE, TOO, 
ABOUT THE RE-OPENING OF THE 
ECONOMY AND HE WAS VERY CAREFUL 
WHEN ASKED BY A FRENCH 
REPORTER, QUÉBÉCOIS REPORTER, 
ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE GOING 
TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THE 
PROVINCES WERE DOING THE RIGHT 
THING.
HE WAS VERY CAREFUL TO SAY NO, 
NO, NO WE'RE NOT THE BOSS OF 
THE PROVINCE.
THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS GOING GO.
>> Reporter: WE KEEP SAYING 
RE-OPENING THE ECONOMY AND I 
WONDER IF THAT IS TOO NARROW 
BECAUSE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE 
THAT ARE PART OF THE 
CONVERSATION.
IT IS REALLY RE-OPENING SOCIETY 
IN A LOT OF WAYS AND THE 
CONVERSATION ON FRIDAY AT THE 
FIRST MINISTERS MEETING WAS, 
LOOK, WE NEED A NATIONAL SENSE 
OF HOW TO DO THIS.
THE FINAL CALL RESTS WITH THE 
PROVINCES AND IN SOME CASES 
M *UM  -- MUNICIPALITIES ON HOW 
THEY'RE GOING OPERATE IN 
CERTAIN WAYS.
TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE A TRUCKING 
COMPANY THAT GOES ACROSS 
DIFFERENT BOARDSES.
ONCE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT IT 
WOULD BE IF IT HAS TO DO WITH A 
SHIPMENT FROM BRITISH COLUMBIA 
TO ONTARIO, HOW THAT WILL WORK.
IF YOU ARE A NATIONAL CHAIN 
THAT OPERATES IN MULTIPLE 
JURISDICTIONS, YOU WANT A SORT 
OF IDEA OF WHAT THE COMMON 
MARKERS WOULD BE IN TERMS OF 
HOW TO RE-OPEN AND STAY OPEN 
AND IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR 
EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE FROM 
JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION OR 
EVEN INTO A CITY LIKE HERE, 
ROSEY, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE IN 
GATINEAU, WORK IN OTTAWA.
AND VICE VERSE SA.
AND IF THINGS ARE GOING RE-OPEN 
ON ONE SIDE, THAT COULD HAVE 
IMPLICATION ON THE OTHER SIDE.
YOU SORT OF WANT TO HAVE AT 
LEAST A BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF 
WHAT THE STANDARDS WOULD BE 
FROM PLACE-TO-PLACE.
BUT LOOK, YOU LOOK AT 
EVERYTHING THE PRIME MINISTER 
SAYS WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT 
THIS, ABOUT RE-OPENING AND 
QUICKLY AND I WOULD NOTE THAT 
WE'VE GONE FROM ASKING THE 
GOVERNMENT QUESTIONS OF WHY 
AREN'T YOU GETTING MONEY TO 
PEOPLE FASTER TO NOW ASKING WHY 
ARE YOU GIVING THEM SO MUCH 
MONEY?
THERE IS NO INCENTIVE TO WORK.
IT IS AN AMAZING TRANSITION IN 
JUST FIVE WEEKS.
BUT IT'S -- THE POINT HE KEEPS 
MAKING AND THE PROGRAMMES THEY 
KEEP ROLLING OUT IS TO ALLOW 
PEOPLE TO HUNKER DOWN.
WE'RE STILL LARGELY BROADLY IN 
THAT PHASE.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YOU KNOW, BRITISH COLUMBIA IS 
NOT ONTARIO.
PLACES LIKE PRINCE EDWARD 
ISLAND, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THE 
DAILY UPDATE IS NO NEW CASES.
SMALL POPULATION, EVERYONE IS 
LARGELY RECOVERED WITH 
ESSENTIALLY ONE BRIDGE, ONE 
BOAT, ONE AIRPORT, YOU CAN 
CLOSE DOWN AND RE-OPEN AT THE 
SAME TIME IN A PLACE LIKE 
PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND IF YOU 
KEEP RESTRICTION ON TRAVEL 
COMING INTO THE PROVINCE.
IT VARIES, RIGHT?
IT'S NOT ONE PANDEMIC.
THE MONTREAL EXPERIENCE, JUST A 
LITTLE WAYS DOWN THE HIGHWAY 
FROM HERE, IS VERY DIFFERENT 
THAN THE OTTAWA EXPERIENCE.
THAT CITY IS REALLY  THE 
EPICENTER IN CANADA RIGHT NOW.
SO, THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES WILL BE ABLE TO 
MAKE DECISIONS TO MEET THEIR 
SPECIFIC NEEDS.
WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS 
TRYING TO DO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT 
-- ON THIS, IT IS A LIBRARY 
LIKE WHAT TERESA TAM IS TRYING 
TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH 
AGENCY.
A SORT OF NATIONAL BENCHMARK 
AND THEN THE PROVINCES ADAPT TO 
THOSE BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL 
CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> Rosemary: WE'RE STANDING 
BILL FOR THE FEDERAL BRIEFING 
HERE FROM CABINET MINISTERS AND 
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS.
I MUST HAVE BAD EYE SIGHT.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE SITTING 
THERE YET.
NO MOVEMENT, THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO BOTH 
OF YOU BUT I WANT TO TALK A 
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE 
ONTARIO PLAN TO RE-OPEN THE 
ECONOMY, OR AS DAVID IS SAYING, 
RE-OPEN SOCIETY.
PREMIER DOUG FORD IS SCHEDULED 
TO SPEAK IN JUST OVER AN HOUR.
OF COURSE, WE'LL BRING THAT TO 
YOU LIVE.
LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S MIKE 
CRAWLEY, OUR QUEEN'S PARK 
REPORTER.
THERE'S SOME PRESSURE TO 
RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY.
ALTHOUGH THE VAST MAJORITY OF 
PUBLIC OPINION POLLS SHOW THAT 
CANADIANS ARE OK.
WE CAN HANG TIGHT A LITTLE 
LONGER.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT KIND 
OF THINGS THE PREMIER IS 
CONSIDERING HERE AND HOW 
QUICKLY HE CAN DO IT?
>> Reporter: YEAH, ROSEMARY, 
IT'S REALLY COMPETING 
PRESSURES, RIGHT?
THERE IS THAT PRESSURE TO 
RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY AND THAT'S 
BIG PRESSURE TO GET THINGS 
RIGHT.
SO, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WHAT 
I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR IS 
WHAT ARE THE FIRST STEPS?
BECAUSE WE KNOW FOR ONE THING 
THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 
PHASES.
THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE 
SINGLE RE-OPENING OF THE WHOLE 
ECONOMY.
WHAT ARE THE WORKPLACES, FOR 
INSTANCE, THAT ONTARIO DECIDES 
TO OPEN FIRST?
IN PARTICULAR, LIKE WHAT KIND 
OF WORKPLACES?
PREMIER FORD HAS HINTED THAT.
HE WOULD BE LOOKING AT 
WORKPLACES WHERE IT'S MOST EASY 
TO MAINTAIN PHYSICAL DISTANCING 
AND REFERED TO OUTDOORS 
SPECIFICALLY.
SO I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME 
RE-OPENING OF OUTDOOR SPACE 
FIRST FOR PEOPLE.
THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.
AND THEN I'LL BE LOOKING TO SEE 
WHAT ARE THEN THE NEXT STEPS.
HOW MANY PHASES DO THEY 
ENVISION DOING THIS IN?
IS IT -- IS THERE ANYTHING IN 
THE WAY OF A TIMELINE?
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A REALLY 
HARD THING FOR THEM TO BE ABLE 
TO SPECIFY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, 
WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT STEP IN A 
CERTAIN NUMBER OF WEEKS OR 
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE 
LOTS OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS 
AFTER TODAY, BUT THERE WILL BE 
A LOT MORE CERTAINTY ABOUT THE 
STEPS THAT ONTARIO'S GOING TO 
TAKE.
>> Rosemary: I THINK MY 
MINISTERS ARE COMING IN.
I DO WANT TO ASK YOU THIS, MIKE 
CRAWLEY, THERE WAS A CLEAR 
INDICATION OVER THE WEEKEND 
ABOUT SCHOOL NOT OPENING UNTIL 
THE END OF MAY.
OF COURSE, SCHOOL AND DAYCARE 
ARE REALLY CRITICAL TO ANYBODY 
BEING ABLE TO GO BACK DO WORK.
SHOULD THAT GIVE US ANY KIND OF 
HINT ABOUT HOW SLOWLY THIS IS 
GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> Reporter: YEAH.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT IT IS 
GOING TO HAPPEN, ANYTHING OTHER 
THAN SLOWLY.
THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, WHO KNOWS.
I'M SEEING, THOUGH, ROSEMARY, 
ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS 
ABOUT SCHOOLS, FOR INSTANCE, DO 
THEY BRING IN SOME SORT OF 
PHASED OR RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS?
DO THEY RE-OPEN SCHOOLS IN 
PARTICULAR FOR YOUNGER KIDS 
FIRST, TO HELP PARENTS OUT.
SO, LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES OUT 
THERE.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE 
INTERESTING TO COMPARE HOW THE 
DIFFERENT PROVINCES APPROACH 
THE SCHOOL QUESTION DIFFERENTLY.
ALSO, ARE THERE REGIONAL 
DIFFERENCES?
I MEAN, ONTARIO'S GOT 400 NEW 
CASES EVERY DAY, BUT VERY, VERY 
FEW OF THOSE CASES ARE 
HAPPENING IN NORTHERN ONTARIO.
AND I ASKED THE PREMIER WHETHER 
THEY'RE CONSIDERING SOME 
REGIONAL DIFFERENCES IN THE 
RE-OPENING AND HE SAID THAT 
THAT'S CERTAINLY UNDER 
CONSIDERATION, BUT MIGHT BE 
DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.
SO LOTS OF STUFF AT PLAY.
>> Rosemary: OK.
APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US.
THE PREMIER'S PRESS CONFERENCE 
WILL BE AT 1:30 EASTERN.
FOR NOW, LET'S GO BACK TO 
OTTAWA FOR THE FEDERAL 
MINISTERS BRIEFING OF PUBLIC 
HEALTH OFFICIALS.
THIS IS DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER 
CHRYSTIA FREELAND.
>> Interpreter: THE PROCESS 
WILL BE GRADUAL AND DONE IN 
COOPERATION AND WILL BE BASED 
ON SCIENCE.
>> LET ME START BY EMPHASIZING 
SOMETHING THE PRIME MINISTER 
SAID EARLIER TODAY.
IF YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL WORKER, 
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO 
ENSURE THAT YOUR WAGES ARE 
BOOSTED IF YOUR PAYCHEQUE 
DOESN'T REFLECT INCREDIBLE WORK 
YOU'RE DOING EVERY DAY.
THANK YOU.
I ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT 
WE ARE ACTIVELY DISCUSSING 
RE-OPENING PLANS WITH OUR 
PROVINCIAL AND TERRITORIAL 
PARTNERS.
I WANT TO RE-ASSURE CANADIANS 
THAT THIS PROCESS WILL BE 
GRADUAL.
IT WILL BE COLLABORATIVE.
AND IT WILL BE GUIDED BY 
SCIENCE AND OUR OBLIGATION TO 
PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY 
OF CANADIANS.
OK.
TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM 
CANADA'S CHIEF PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICER, DR. TERESA TAM, THE 
DEPUTY CHIEF PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICER, DR.S HOWARD NJOO AND 
[SPEAKING FRENCH] AND THE 
PRESIDENT OF THE TREASURY BOARD.
DR. TAM?
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
AND [SPEAKING FRENCH].
I'LL START WITH THE LATEST ON 
COVID-19 IN CANADA.
THERE ARE NOW 47,327 CONFIRMED 
CASES, INCLUDING 2,617 DEATHS.
TO DATE, LABS ACROSS CANADA 
HAVE TESTED OVER 717,000 PEOPLE 
WITH ABOUT 7% OF THESE TESTING 
POSITIVE.
ANOTHER WEEK IS UPON US AND I 
KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL WEARY AND 
THE LONGER DAYS AND WARMER 
WEATHER ARE MAKING US ALL FEEL 
INCREASINGLY ANTSY.
IN FACT, THESE PAST WEEKS HAVE 
MADE THE WORDS OF MILLIONS OF 
KIDS RING TRUE AS WE SHOUT FROM 
THE BACK SEAT "ARE WE THERE 
YET"?
[LAUGHTER]
I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US 
WHEN I SAY WE ALL FEEL LIKE 
THAT KID.
AND I'M SORRY TO SAY NOT YET.
BUT WE CAN'T LET GO OF THE 
WHEEL YET.
MY REFLECTION THIS PAST WEEKEND 
WAS VERY MUCH ON THE BIGGER 
PICTURE SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT 
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
WITH OUTBREAKS AND VULNERABLE 
SETTINGS AND UNDERSERVED 
POPULATIONS DRIVING THE 
EPIDEMIOLOGY OF COVID-19, I AM 
REMINDED OF THE CRITICAL 
IMPORTANCE OF ADDRESSING 
INEQUITIES.
THIS PANDEMIC HAS EXPOSED THE 
FRAGILETY OF SOME OF OUR 
POPULATIONS, ESPECIALLY THOSE 
LIVING IN LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, 
GROUP HOUSING, THOSE 
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, OUR 
VULNERABLE INDIGENOUS 
COMMUNITIES AND IT HAS ALSO 
HIGHLIGHTED THE BASIC 
CHALLENGES OF THOSE WORKING IN 
OUR ESSENTIAL SERVICES WHO 
CANNOT SELF-ISOLATE, SUCH AS 
OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND 
THOSE GROWING, DELIVERING AND 
STOCKING OUR FOODS, MEDICINES 
AND OTHER VITAL SUPPLIES T. BAD 
BUGS ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
SO, IF WE ARE TO END THE 
TRAGEDY OF INCREASED DISEASE 
AND DEATH RATES IN VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS, WE NEED TO MAKE 
THINGS RIGHT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S 
PROBLEM OR SOMEONE ELSE'S SORT 
ROEFM INEQUITIES TOUCH US ALL.
THAT MEANS WE NEED TO LOOK 
BEYOND THE HEALTH SYSTEM TO THE 
EXPANSE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, 
SOCIAL, CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC 
FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY.
AND THIS APPROACH NEEDS TO BE 
WOVEN INTO BOTH OUR CAUTIOUS 
DISSENT NOW IN THE ACADEMIC 
CURVE AS WELL AS GOING FORWARD 
TO LIVING WITH COVID-19.
TO PUT THIS VIRUS IN A CORNER 
WHERE WE MANAGE IT AND NOT THE 
OTHER WAY AROUND, WE NEED TO 
ADAPT OUR DAILY LIVES TO THE 
NEED FOR HAND WASHING, PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING AND OTHER CONTROL 
MEASURES AND AT THE SAME TIME, 
WE NEED TO BUILD PROTECTIVE 
SUPPORTS INTO OUR SOCIAL FABRIC 
TO PROVIDE LONG-TERM PROTECTION 
AGAINST FUTURE WAVES OF 
COVID-19 AND FUTURE PANDEMICS 
OF EMERGING DISEASE.
LAST NIGHT, CANADIAN LUMINARIES 
FROM THE WORLDS OF MUSIC, 
SPORTS, SCIENCE, ADVOCACY, 
TELEVISION AND CINEMA BROUGHT 
US TOGETHER VIRTUALLY FOR THE 
STRONGER TOGETHER SPECIAL.
IN ADDITION TO BEING EXTREMELY 
EMOTIONAL AND ENTERTAINING, IT 
RAISED MUCH NEEDED FUNDS FOR 
FOOD BANKS ACROSS CANADA AND 
ALLOWED US TO PAY FROIBLT THE 
HEROIC EFFORTS OF OUR FRONTLINE 
WORKERS DURING THIS CRISIS.
STRONGER TOGETHER IS HOW WE ARE 
GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. TAM.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: GOOD MORNING, 
EVERYONE.
FIRST OF ALL, HERE ARE THE LAST 
FIGURES ON COVID-19 IN CANADA.
47,327 CONFIRMED CASES, 2,617 
DEATHS.
LABS HAVE ANALYZED SAMPLES OF 
MORE THAN 717,000 PEOPLE, ABOUT 
7% HAVE TESTED POSITIVE.
WE'RE STARTING A NEW WEEK AND 
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE WEARY AND 
LONGER DAYS AND BETTER WEATHER 
IS MAKING US FEBRILE.
THIS WEEK HAS GIVEN US A GOOD 
LOOK AT THE MILLIONS OF KIDS 
WHO SHOUT FROM THE BACKSEAT 
"ARE WE THERE YET"?
I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US 
WHEN WE SAY WE'VE NEVER FELT 
MORE LIKE THAT KID.
THOUGH I'M SORRY TO SAY, NO, 
NOT QUITE.
AND THOUGH WE ARE GETTING 
CLOSER ALL THE TIME, WE CAN'T 
LET GO OF THE WHEEL YET.
MY REFLECTION THIS PAST WEEKEND 
WAS FOCUSED ON THE BIG PICTURE.
SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHERE WE 
ARE RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT W 
OUTBREAKS IN VULNERABLE SETINGS 
AND A UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS, 
DRIVING THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF THE 
COVID-19, I'M REMINDED OF THE 
CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF 
ADDRESSING INEQUITIES.
THE PANDEMIC HAS EXPOSED THE 
FRAGILETY OF SOME OF OUR 
POPULATIONS, ESPECIALLY THOSE 
LIVING IN LONG-TERM CARE HOMES, 
GROUP HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS OR 
VULNERABLE INDIGENOUS 
COMMUNITIES.
IT IS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THE 
BASICS OF ASSISTANCE CHALLENGES 
OF THOSE WORKING IN OUR 
ESSENTIAL SERVICES WHO CANNOT 
SELF-ISOLATE, SUCH AS HEALTH 
CARE WORKERS AND THOSE GROWING, 
DELIVERING AND STOCKING OUR 
FOOD, MEDICINES AND OTHER VITAL 
SUPPLIES.
THE BAD BUGS ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
SO IF WE ARE TO END THE TRAGEDY 
OF INCREASED DISEASE AND DEATH 
RATES IN VULNERABLE 
POPULATIONS, WE NEED TO MAKE 
THINGS RIGHT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS NOT JUST SOMEONE ELSE'S 
PROBLEM OR SOMEONE'S SORROW.
INEQUALITIES TOUCH US ALL.
THEY AFFECT THE HEALTH AND 
SOCIAL WELL-BEG OF ALL 
CANADIANS, SUCH AS THEY 
DIMINISH OUR HUMANITY.
THAT MEANS WE NEED TO LOOK I 
DON'T WANT THE HEALTH SYSTEM TO 
THE EXPANSE OF THE PUBLIC 
HEALTH, SOCIAL, CULTURAL AND 
ECONOMIC FABRIC.
OF OUR SOCIETY.
AND THIS APPROACH NEEDS TO BE 
WOVEN INTO BOTH OUR CAUTIOUS 
DESCENT DOWN THE ECONOMIC CURVE 
AS WELL AS LIVING WITH KOIFDS.
TO PUT THIS VIRUS IN A CORNER 
WHERE WE MANAGE IT AND NOT THE 
OTHER WAY AROUND, WE NEED TO 
ADOPT OUR DAILY LIVES TO THE 
NEEDS OF HAND WASHING, PHYSICAL 
DISTANSING AND OTHER CONTROL 
MEASURES.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO 
BUILD PROTECTIVE SUPPORTS INTO 
OUR SOCIAL FABRIC, TO PROVIDE 
LONG-TERM PROTECTION AGAINST 
FUTURE WAVES OF COVID-19 AND 
FUTURE PANDEMICS OF EMERGING 
DISEASE.
THAT IS WHEN WE'LL KNOW WE ARE 
WELL AND TRULY THERE.
THANK YOU.
>> MERCI, DOCTOR.
MARY NG, PLEASE?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DEPUTY 
PRIME MINISTER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
THIS IS DIRECT ODD TO SMALL 
BUSINESS OWNERS AND 
ENTREPRENEURS IN COMMUNITIES 
ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
.
YOU HAVE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD 
TO TURN YOUR IDEA INTO 
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES AND THAT 
MEANS HAVING TO MISS BIRTHDAYS, 
RECITALS, FAMILY DINNERS 
THROUGHOUT YEARS.
FOR YOU, THIS IS PERSONAL.
AND IT IS ALSO PERSONAL FOR ME.
NOT ONLY AS THE MINISTER 
RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING SMALL 
BUSINESS SUCCEED, BUT AS 
SOMEONE WHO GREW UP IN A 
FAMILY-RUN BUSINESS, I 
UNDERSTAND HOW DEV STAYING IT 
MUST BE TO CLOSE YOUR DOORS AND 
FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO 
GIVE UP ON THIS DREAM THAT YOU 
WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE A 
REALITY.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: OUR GOVERNMENT 
IS THERE FOR YOU.
>> AS OF TODAY, YOU CAN NOW 
APPLY TO RECEIVE THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY WAGE SUBSIDY THAT 
WILL COVER 75% OF YOUR 
EMPLOYEES' WAGES, UP TO $847 A 
WEEK.
IF YOUR BUSINESS OF ANY SIZE, A 
CHARITY OR NONPROFIT 
ORGANIZATION AND YOU'VE SEEN A 
DROP IN REVENUE FOR THE MONTH 
OF MARCH, APRIL AND MAY, APPLY 
THROUGH YOUR "MY BUSINESS" 
ACCOUNT OR THE CANADA REVENUE 
AGENCY'S ONLINE PORTAL.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS BENEFIT 
IS RETROACTIVE TO MARCH 15 AND 
AVAILABLE FOR A PERIOD OF 12 
WEEKS OR UNTIL JUNE 6.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: WE HAVE WORKED 
HARD TO MAKE THIS PROCESS AS 
SIMPLE AND EFFICIENT AS 
POSSIBLE.
>> ALL CLAIMS WILL BE ACCEPTED 
THROUGH THE AUTOMATION SYSTEM 
AND YOUR PAYMENT WILL BE SENT 
TO YOU ON MAY 5.
WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH BANKS 
AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO 
ENROLL PAYROLL ACCOUNTS FOR 
DIRECT DEPOSIT, WHICH MEANS 
THAT BUSINESSES SHOULD BEGIN TO 
SEE MONEY IN THEIR ACCOUNTS AS 
OF MAY 7.
FOR APPLICATIONS THAT REQUIRE 
ADDITIONAL CHECKS OR MORE 
INFORMATION FROM THE EMPLOYER, 
A SECONDARY VERIFICATION SHOULD 
TAKE NO MORE THAN 72 HOURS TO 
COMPLETE.
IF WAGE SUBSIDY WILL NOT ONLY 
HELP SAVE CANADIAN JOBS, IT IS 
ABOUT KEEPING YOUR TEAMS 
TOGETHER, WHICH WE KNOW WILL BE 
KEY TO YOUR SUCCESS ONCE WE'RE 
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS AND 
WE ARE INTO RECOVERY.
OUR TEAM RECENTLY FLEAEDER A 
BAKERY OWNER IN ATLANTIC CANADA.
SHE WILL BE USING A 75% WAGE 
SUBSIDY TO PAY FOR HER FIVE 
EMPLOYEES.
IN TURN, THIS WILL FREE UP THE 
CASH FLOW SHE HAS TO PAY FOR 
OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES, 
INCLUDING IMPROVING ON AN 
ONLINE ORDERING PLATFORM SINCE 
SHE'S HAD TO CLOSE HER DOORS.
SIMPLY PUT THIS MEANS RELIEF 
FOR BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG WITH 
THEIR EMPLOYEES.
WE'RE HEAR OF STORIES OF 
RESILIENCE FROM THIS, LIKE THIS 
ALL OVER CANADA AND OUR WORK IS 
FAR FROM DPUN.
WE'RE STILL LISTENING.
WE WILL DON'T DO EVERYTHING 
POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT YOU, YOUR 
BUSINESSES, YOUR VALUED 
EMPLOYEES AND FAMILIES ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY.
THANK YOU.
MERCI.
>> [SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH.
THE MAIN MESSAGE BY THE PRIME 
MINISTER THIS MORNING WAS ONE 
OF ASSISTANCE AND MUTUAL 
ASSISTANCE IN DECISION-MAKING, 
FIRST OF ALL.
WE WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
TO PROPERLY DEVELOP SHARED 
COOPERATIVE DECISIONS TO GUIDE 
US IN IMPORTANT WAYS IN THE 
COMING WEEKS BY USING 
CONSIDERABLE NATIONAL EXPERTISE 
OF SCIENTISTS AND RESEARCHERS 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND 
EXPECTING, OF COURSE, THAT THIS 
INFORMATION, THIS ADVICE WILL 
BE APPLIED LOCALLY BY 
PROVINCIAL AND MUNICIPAL 
ADMINISTRATIONS AND ALSO TO 
GUIDE ENTREPRENEURS AND 
COMPANIES IN THIS IMPORTANT 
EXERCISE THAT THEY HAVE TO 
CONDUCT IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE 
SAFETY AND SECURITY OF WORKERS 
IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.
SECONDLY, ESSENTIAL WORKERS 
THAT ARE OFTEN WORKING FOR VERY 
MODEST WAGESING, WE WANT TO 
THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY 
DO FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND FOR 
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM.
AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH 
THE PROGRESS IN THE DISCUSSIONS 
AS THE PRIME MINISTER MENTIONED 
THIS MORNING BETWEEN THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE 
PROVINCE AND TERRITORIES.
AND AS MINISTER NG JUST SAID, 
AID TO EMPLOYERS TO PAY THEIR 
WAGES.
ON APRIL 11, JUST A FEW DAYS 
AGO, THE HOUSE OF COMMONS VOTED 
FOR THE PROPER PROVISIONS TO 
STORE THIS WAGE SUBSIDY ON 
APRIL 21, 10 DAYS LATER, THAT 
IS LAST MONDAY, WE WERE ABLE TO 
LAUNCH A WEBSITE THAT $300,000 
COMPANIES VISITED IN THE LAST 
FEW DAYS.
TODAY, APRIL 27, 16 DAYS AFTER 
THIS WAS ADOPTED IN THE HOUSE 
OF COMMONS AND ADOPTED THE 
REGULATIONS, WE HAVE THE 
OPPORTUNITY, THANKS TO THE 
REMARKABLE WORK OF C.R.A. 
EMPLOYEES TO ASK COMPANIES TO 
FEEL FOR THEIR WAGE SUBSIDY AND 
AS MINISTER NG JUST SAID A FEW 
MOMENTING AGO, AS OF MAY 5, 
THAT IS NEXT WEEK, ANSWERS WILL 
BE PROVIDED TO COMPANIES AND ON 
MAY 7, PAYMENTS WILL START TO 
FLOW AND BE DEPOSITED.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE 
EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE WORK.
AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE 
TREASURY BOARD ONCE AGAIN, I 
WANT TO THANK ALL THE PUBLIC 
SERVANT WORKING IN VERY 
DEMANDING CAN'T, BOTH 
PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY, 
FOR THE REMARKABLE WORK THEY DO.
IT IS SO APPRECIATED BECAUSE 
THEY'RE HELPING CANADIANS.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR MINISTER OF HEALTH, 
PATTY HAJDU IS HERE AS WELL AND 
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR 
QUESTIONS AS ARE WE ALL.
CARL?
>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY PRIME 
MINISTER.
OPERATOR?
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 1 IF YOU HAVE 
A QUESTION.
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: PLEASE PRESS 
STAR 1 RIGHT NOW.
>> Operator: FIRST QUESTION, 
[SPEAKING FRENCH].
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH] 
>> Interpreter: GOOD MORNING.
MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE FOR 
MR. DUCLOS OR MS. FREELAND.
THE CANADIAN ARMY IS DEPLOYED 
IN QUEBEC AND HAS BEEN THERE 
FOR SEVERAL DAYS TO SEE WHAT 
THE NEEDS ARE IN LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES.
SO THERE'S BEEN A 
RECONNAISSANCE MISSION THE LAST 
FEW DAYS CONFIRM WE GET MORE 
DETAILS ABOUT HOW MANY 
ADDITIONAL TROOPS WILL BE SENT 
TO QUEBEC AND WHEN THEY WILL 
START TO ARRIVE?
ANSWER, TO BEGIN WITH, WE ARE 
FULLY ENGAGED IN ORGANIZING 
THIS DEEMPLOYMENT.
THIS IS THE WORK OF THE 
MINISTER OF NATIONAL DEFENCE 
AND MINISTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, 
BILL BLAIR.
THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
BY WORKING WITH QUEBEC, 15 
FACILITIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED 
AS PRIORITIES AND GO THINGS ARE 
BEING DONE NOW.
RECONNAISSANCE OF THESE 
ESTABLISHMENTS TO UNDERSTAND 
WHAT THEY NEED AND TRAINING OF 
THE CANADIAN FORCES PERSONNEL 
DOING THIS IMPORTANT WORK.
AND I WANT TO ADD THAT THIS IS 
WORK IN WHICH QUEBEC HAS THE 
LEAD WITH STRONG SUPPORT FROM 
THE CANADIAN FORCES AND THERE 
ARE ALSO RED CROSS VOLUNTEERS 
THAT WILL PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT 
ROLE.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS 
THAT HEALTH CANADA HAS 
ORGANIZED.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> Interpreter: YES, VERY 
BRIEFLY.
YOU SUMMARIZED THE SITUATION 
VERY WELL.
LET'S DO A RECALL BEFORE WE 
TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT 
SITUATION.
I THINK APRIL 16, A THURSDAY, A 
REQUEST WAS MADE BY THE 
GOVERNMENT OF QUEBEC FOR THE 
DEEMPLOYMENT OF 125 MEMBERS OF 
THE CANADIAN FORCES WHO HAVE 
MEDICAL EXPERTISE AND ON THE 
FOLLOWING SATURDAY, THE MEMBERS 
OF THE CANADIAN FORCES WERE 
DEPLOYED.
BUT THAT IS A SOMEWHAT 
DIFFERENT CONTEXT FROM THE ONE 
WE'RE SEEING NOW.
NOW WE'RE SEEING THE 
DEEMPLOYMENT OF A LARGER NUMBER 
OF MEMBERS OF THE CANADIAN 
FORCES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1,000 AND 
PEOPLE WHOSE RESPONSIBILITIES 
AND SKILLS ARE NOT NECESSARILY 
STRICTLY MEDICAL.
THAT IS WHY THE OBJECTIVE HERE, 
PRIME OBJECTIVE FOCUSED ON BY 
THE QUEBEC GOVERNMENT IS THAT 
THIS DEPLOYMENT SUPPORT THE 
WORK OF HEALTH CARE WORKERS 
THERE ARE PLACE AND PATIENTS 
THAT ARE THERE.
THIS PERSONNEL IS NOT 
NECESSARILY READY TO DEPLOY 
QUICKLY AND IMMEDIATELY.
THERE IS A PRELIMINARY MEASURE 
WHICH IS RECOGNIZANCE OF THE 
ESTABLISHMENTS AND DETERMINING 
RESPONSIBILITIES.
FOLLOW-UP?
QUESTION?
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING FRENCH] 
>> Interpreter: YES.
WHILE MANY PROVINCES ARE 
UNVEILING THEIR PLANS TO 
RE-OPEN THE ECONOMY, MY 
QUESTION IS FOR DR. NJOO OR DR. 
TAM.
WOULDN'T THIS BE THE RIGHT TIME 
TO COME OUT FOR OR AGAINST 
WEARING MASKS?
IF YOU CONSIDER THIS IN THE 
CONTEXT OF DE-ICE LACING.
IS IT COMPULSORY TO WEAR A 
NONMEDICAL ?AFK YES, THANK YOU 
FOR THAT QUESTION.
THIS IS DR. NJOO.
DR. TAM AND I CONTINUE TO WORK 
CLOSELY WITH OUR PROVINCIAL AND 
TERRITORIAL COUNTERPARTS.
WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION 
YESTERDAY WITH THE SPECIAL 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THIS VERY 
ISSUE.
WE AGREE THAT THERE ARE 
PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE TO BE 
MAINTAINED.
WE MAY MAKE SOME PUBLIC HEALTH 
MEASURES SUCH AS PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING AND PROPER PRACTICES 
SUCH AS FREQUENT HAND WASHING.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT.
AFTER THAT, WE DID AGREE ON 
FOUR CRITERIA.
EACH PROVINCE MUST HAVE GOOD 
EVIDENCE THAT TRANSMISSION IN 
THEIR OWN JURISDICTION IS 
WELL-CONTROLLED.
THEY HAVE GOOD CAPACITY IN 
THEIR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
AND THEIR PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM.
TO PROPERLY DIAGNOSE ALL THESE 
CASES.
ISOLATED CASES.
THEY HAVE TO DO
>> Tracy:ING AND SO FORTH.
WE KNOW THAT EVERY PROVINCE AND 
TERRITORY HAVE THEIR OWN 
EPIDEMIC.
THEY MAY BE IN DIFFERENT 
REALITIES.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ONE 
PROVINCE IS STARTING TO FIND 
THAT IT COULD RELAX ITS RULES 
WHEN OTHERS ARE NOT.
WITH REGARD TOSS THE MASK, 
BUSINESS IS STILL AN ISSUE AND 
WE CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS.
WE KNOW THAT IT IS ANOTHER 
OPTION, A GOOD WAY FOR PEOPLE 
TO PERHAPS HELP PROTECT OTHERS.
IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE 
CONSIDER PERMISSIVE BECAUSE IT 
IS NOT REALLY TO PROTECT 
YOURSELF FROM OTHERS, BUT IF 
YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE, PERHAPS IT 
IS DIFFICULTER TO MAINTAIN THE 
TWO-METRE DISTANCE IN A GROCERY 
STORE OR PUBLIC TRANSIT SO WE 
CONTINUE TO EXAMINE THE SCIENCE 
AND PROBATIVE DATA.
RIGHT NOW THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION.
>> Operator: [SPEAKING FRENCH] 
FROM THE "NATIONAL POST".
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> Reporter: OH HI, DR. TAM.
YOU MENTIONED THAT OVER 700,000 
CANADIANS HAVE BEEN TESTED WITH 
ABOUT A 7% CONFIRMED POSITIVE.
BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT THE 
SWAB TESTING, THE RPCR TESTING 
HAS A HIGH FALSE NEGATIVE RATE 
BECAUSE IT CAN BE TRICKY TO GET 
A DECENT SAMLE .
WHAT DOES YOUR DATA SHOW ABOUT 
THE PREVALENCE OF FALSE 
NEGATIVES?
>> I THINK IN GENERAL THEY HAVE 
A GOOD SPECIFICITY AND QUITE A 
HIGH SENSITIVITY IN GENERAL.
YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT TAKING 
A SWAB IS NOT COMPLETELY SIMPLE 
PROCEDURE.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT USING THE 
RIGHT TECHNIQUE AT THE RIGHT 
TIME, ETC., TO DETECT THE VIRUS 
AND I KNOW ALSO THAT SOMETIMES 
PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE MORE THAN 
ONE TEST TAKEN IF THERE IS SOME 
DEGREE OF SUSPICION THAT 
SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAS THE VIRUS, 
BUT WAS TESTED NEGATIVE THE 
FIRST TIME AND WILL THEN 
PERHAPS NEED A FOLLOW-UP TEST 
AS WELL.
SO I THINK ABSOLUTELY THIS IS A 
POTENTIAL ISSUE.
WE DO KNOW THAT WE DO NOT HAVE 
A FULL ACCOUNTING OF ALL PEOPLE 
INFECTED IN CANADA AND THAT IS 
PART OF THE WORK THAT WILL BE 
DOING AS PART OF THE IMMUNITY 
TASK FORCE TO ASSERT WHAT LEVEL 
OF INFECTION HAS OCCURRED IN 
CANADA.
>> FOLLOW-UP?
>> Reporter: YEAH.
AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY 
FOLLOW-UP, SORRY, THAT THE 
N.I.H. AND C.D.C. HAVE STARTED 
THE STERILIZING TESTING.
AGAIN, I'M WONDERING WHAT 
ASSUMPTIONS YOU'RE WORKING WITH 
WHEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT 
PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION 
HAS BEEN INSPECTED.
IS IT 10 TIMES THE NUMBER OF 
CONFIRMED CASES.
50, 100.
WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE 
ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOUR AGENCY IS 
WORKING WITH?
I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE 
WORK GOING FORWARD, TO ACTUALLY 
DETERMINE THROUGH DIFFERENT 
METH DOGS THE DIFFERENT AREAS 
OF CANADA.
MAYBE THE HOTSPOTS OF THE ONES 
THAT DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH 
REPORTED CASES, THE AGE GROUP, 
STRUCTURE SO ALL OF THAT IT 
WILL BE PART OF THE FORWARD 
LOOKING DESIGN.
SOME JURISDICTIONS ARE ALSO 
ALREADY PLANNING THESE STUDIS 
TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF 
EXACTLY THE TYPE OF QUESTION 
THAT YOU ARE ASKING AS WELL.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A DESIGN 
THAT IS MORE LONGITUDINAL.
BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE 
SEROLOGIC TESTS ARE NOT 
NECESSARILY, AGAIN, HAVE THE 
HIGH ENOUGH SPECIFICITY OR 
SENSITIVITY SO BY LOOKING MORE 
LONGITUDINALLY, MAYBE YOU WOULD 
DETECT SOMETHING AT A LATER 
DATE AS WELL.
ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE PAR 
OF THE -- YOU KNOW, GO INTO 
PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE 
STUDIES GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
OPERATE TORE, NEXT QUESTION, 
PLEA.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
THE NEXT QUESTION, [SPEAKING 
FRENCH].
>> Interpreter: CANADIAN PRESS.
QUESTION -- MS. FREELAND, WE 
GOT THE IMPRESSION OVER THE 
WEEKEND THAT QUEBEC AND YOU DID 
NOT HAVE THE SAME UNDERSTANDING 
OF HERD IMMUNITY.
I'M WONDERING WHERE THINGS 
STAND?
DO YOU NOW BELIEVE THAT THE 
LEGAULT GOVERNMENT, AND YOU, 
ARE ON THE SAME PAGE?
THAT THEY ALSO UNDERSTAND?
THE CONCEPT OF HERD IMMUNITY 
AND ITS USEFULNESS RIGHT NOW.
>> [SPEAKING FRENCH] 
>> Interpreter: ANSWER, BECAUSE 
THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION, 
I WILL ASK DR. NJOO OR DR. TAM 
TO ANSWER YOU.
I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO 
HAVE HERD IMMUNITY EXPLAINED TO 
ME.
MY QUESTION IS POLITICAL.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT QUEBEC 
UNDERSTANDS THE SAME THING YOU 
DO?
>> LENA, COULD I ASK DR. NJOO 
TO ANSWER AND THEN I WILL BE 
VERY PLEASED TO ANSWER ON MY 
BEHALF.
THANK YOU.
THIS IS DR. NJOO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
I THINK THAT IN THE SCIENTIFIC 
COMMUNITY, PUBLIC HEALTH AND 
HEALTH DIRECTORS IN ALL 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORY AND ME, 
I'VE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH 
DR. ARRUDA AND I THINK FROM A 
PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AND 
SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE ON DATA 
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON COLLUSIONS 
RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
ALREADY BEEN INFECTED WILL HAVE 
AN ANTI-BODY REACTION.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WE DON'T 
KNOW WHETHER THAT REACTION 
PROVIDES IMMUNITY.
AND IF IT DOES, FOR HOW LONG.
HOW LONG WILL THAT LAST?
IS IT A FEW WEEKS?
A FEW MONTHS.
MAYBE FOR LIFE.
WE DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE EVIDENCE 
FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT 
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY INFECTED 
HAD A SECOND INFECTION.
WERE REINFECTED.
SO, THAT IS SOME INDICATION 
THAT AN INFECTION DOES NOT GIVE 
YOU IMMUNITY.
IF YOU'RE TALK ABOUT HERD 
IMMUNITY, COLLECTIVE IMMUNITY, 
I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN USE 
THAT TO MANAGE THIS PANDEMIC 
BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE IS NOT 
THERE.
RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO 
FOLLOW THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE 
AND DATA AND DR. ARRUDA IN 
QUEBEC AND WE HAD A GOOD 
DISCUSSION AT OUR SPECIAL 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A 
EVERYBODY GREASE.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW SCIENCE.
THANK YOU.
OK.
AS APROMISED YOU,LY GIVE YOU A 
POLITICAL ANSWER NOW.
I'M NEITHER A SCIENTIST NOR A 
DOCTOR.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE 
PROVINCIAL PREMIERS AND 
TERRITORIAL PREMIERS AGREE THAT 
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF 
OUR DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS AS 
DR. NJOO JUST SAID.
WE HAVE AN ADVISORY COUNCIL  
WHERE ALL DIRECTORS OF PUBLIC 
HEALTH ACROSS CANADA TOQUE EACH 
OTHER AND A EXCHANGE VIEWS AND 
IDEAS.
THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING.
AND I KNOW THAT DISCUSSIONS AT 
THAT LEVEL, AMONG DOCTORS AND 
SCIENTISTS IN CANADA, IS A VERY 
COLLABORATIVE AND OPEN ONE.
THEY TALK VERY OFTEN.
NOW WITH REGARD TO RE-OPENING 
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT 
QUESTION.
ON FRIDAY, WE HAD GOOD 
DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA AND THE 
PROVINCIAL AND TERRITORIAL 
PREMIERS.
WE'RE GETTING AN AGREEMENT ON 
THE PRINCIPLES THAT WILL GUIDE 
RE-OPENING FOR THE WHOLE 
COUNTRY.
AND I CAN ASSURE CANADIANS THAT 
THE PROCESS WILL BE GRADUAL, IT 
WILL BE COLLABORATIVE AND I 
KNOW THAT NO IN ALL OF CANADA, 
THE PROCESS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY 
THAT IS SO HUGE, SO VAST, THE 
PROCESS WILL BE GUIDED BY 
SCIENCE.
THANK YOU.
FOLLOW-UP?
YES, THANK YOU.
MY FOLLOW-UP WOULD BE FOR MR. 
DUCLOS.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY 
THIS CAN'T BE DEPLOYED MORE 
QUICKLY, THESE 1,000 MILITARY 
PERSONNEL.
IT CAN'T BE FASTER.
WHY CAN'T IT BE FASTER?
IT IS RAPID.
BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES 
COMPARED TO THE FIRST 
DEPLOYMENT WHERE THERE WAS A 
SMALLER NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF 
CANADIAN FORCES THAT WERE 
CALLED TO SERVE.
THEY HAD INITIAL SKILLS THAT 
WERE DIFFERENT.
I WAS MORE RESTRAINED -- 
RESTRICTED GROUPS.
THEY WERE MEDICAL TECHNICIANS 
DEPLOYED IN THESE LONG-TERM 
CARE FACILITIES.
NOW THE DEMAND IS BROADER, THE 
NUMBERS ARE BIGGER AND THE 
NUMBER OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS 
LARGER, TOO.
THAT IS WHY THIS DEPLOYMENT IS 
DONE DIFFERENTLY FROM THE FIRST 
ONE.
THANK YOU, MINISTER.
JULIE ?R
>> Reporter: ANY FIRST QUESTION 
IS FOR DR. TAM.
CONSIDERING WHAT THE W.H.O. 
SAID, THAT YOU CAN GET 
COVID-19, RECOVER FROM IT AND 
THEN DOESN'T MAKE YOU IMMUNE 
FROM GETTING IT AGAIN.
WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THAT AND 
HOW MUCH OF A SETBACK IS IT?
>> ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT 
WE KNOW THE FULL ANSWERS TO 
THAT QUESTION.
I THINK WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO 
ARE INFECTED WITH COVID-19 WILL 
DEVELOP SOME KIND OF ANTIBODY 
RESPONSE AND THAT WILL PROBABLY 
PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF 
PROTECTION.
WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL 
OF PROTECTION, HOW STRONG THAT 
PROTECTION IS AND HOW LONG IT 
WILL LAST.
I THINK THAT IS THE -- THE 
SCIENTIFIC DISCOURSE RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS WHY THOSE STUDIES NEED 
TO BE DONE AND THAT WE SHOULD 
BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE 
INTERPRET THE RESULTS, FOR 
EXAMPLE, OF SOME OF THE 
SEROLOGIC TESTING.
I KNOW THAT SO MANY COUNTRIES 
IN THE WORLD, NOW INCLUDING 
CANADA WITH THE IMMUNETY TASK 
FORCE, WE'LL TRY TO GET TO THE 
BOTH OF THOSE ANSWERS.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T 
HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
>> OK.
I'LL MAKE A LITTLE COMMENTS AND 
GO TO MY SECOND QUESTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU AGREE WITH 
THE W.H.O. 
NOW MY SECOND QUESTION AND THAT 
WOULD BE --
>> THAT IS -- I DON'T THINK 
THAT'S CORRECT.
>> Reporter: NO?
>> NO.
I THINK WHAT DR. TAM -- I THINK 
WHAT THE W.H.O. HAS SAID IS WE 
DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT'S 
HAPPENING AND I THINK THAT IS 
WHAT DR. TAM --
>> YEAH.
GLOBALLY, INCLUDING THE W.H.O., 
BUT ALL THE SCIENTISTS AROUND 
THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO GATHER 
THIS INFORMATION.
WE CAN BASE SOME OF THE 
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT PAST KNOWLEDGE 
OF INFECTIONS ARE RESPIRATORY 
VIRUSES BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN 
IT IS THE SAME WITH COVID-19.
THAT MEANS WE'RE STILL TRYING 
TO DISCOVER THE ANSWER TO THOSE 
QUESTIONS.
I DO THINK THAT WE EXPECT SOME 
LEVEL OF IMMUNITY.
AGAIN, JUST HOW STRONG THAT IS 
AND HOW LONG IT LASTS IS 
UNKNOWN.
AND WE WILL GET TO SOME OF 
THESE ANSWERS WITH THESE 
STUDIES.
>> AND MY  INTERPRETATION OF 
WHAT THE W.H.O. IS SAYING IS TO 
BE CAREFUL, THOSE COUNTRIES AND 
JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE THINKING 
THAT YOU COULD ISSUE AN 
IMMUNIZATION OR IMMUNOLOGICAL 
PASS PORT.
COUNTRIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD 
ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY 
OUT OF THIS AND RIGHTLY SO AND 
I THINK THE WARNING FROM THE 
W.H.O. IS EXACTLY, AS DR. TAM 
HAS SAID, IT IS FAR TOO EARLY 
TO BE GIVING OUT ANY SOCIETIER 
THAT SAYS OH, YOU HAD COVID AND 
NOW YOU ARE IMMUNE BECAUSE THAT 
IS A DINTION LINE OF THINKING 
WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SCIENCE 
YET CAUGHT UP TO WHAT THE 
EVIDENCE ACTUALLY SAYS.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, 
TO ALL CITIZENS WHO HAVE HAD 
COVID TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A 
CAUTION AROUND ASSUMING JUST 
BECAUSE YOU HAD IT THAT, IN 
FACT, YOU ARE NOW PROTECTED.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE 
AN IMMUNITY TASK FORCES IN 
CANADA AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES 
ARE STUDYING SEROLOGICAL 
PREVALENCE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND 
WHAT THE EXTENT OF EXPOSURE IS 
AND ALSO WHAT THE EXTENT OF 
IMMUNITY IS, BOTH VERY 
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU FOR 
BEING FOR SO FULLSOME IN MY 
FIRST QUESTION.
[LAUGHTER]
>> YOU PROVOKED US, JULIE.
ROYER THE SECOND QUESTION IS 
ABOUT TESTING.
WE KNOW THAT TESTING IS VERY 
IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF 
RE-OPENING ECONOMIES AND WE 
HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH TESTING 
IN TERMS OF LACK OF SWABS 
RECENTLY IN THE PAST COUPLE OF 
WEEKS.
BACKLOG OF CASES IN ONTARIO AND 
QUEBEC AND OTHER PROVINCES.
I'M WONDERING IF IT'S RESOLVED 
TO YOUR SATISFACTION AND 
CONSIDERING THAT ECONOMIS ARE 
STARTING TO TALK ABOUT 
RE-OPENING WITHIN THE PROVINCES 
VERY SOON.
>> I'LL DO A TWO-PART ANSWER 
AGAIN WITH AN OVERVIEW AND TURN 
TO DR. TAM ABOUT THE 
CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY CANADA CAN DO 
BETTER AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT 
AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THE 
GROWTH OF TESTING THAT'S 
HAPPENING AND THE CAPACITY OF 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO 
INCREASE CAPACITY OF TESTING 
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
PART OF THAT IS DOMESTIC 
PRODUCTION OF SOME OF THE 
EQUIPMENT THAT YOU MENTIONED, 
INCLUDING SOMETHING CALLED 
REAGENT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY 
THE CHEMICAL, THE FLUID THAT IS 
REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE 
TESTING AND NOW WE HAVE A LOCAL 
MANUFACTURING SOURCE FOR THE 
REAGO, WHICH IS MAKING IT 
EASIER FOR PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIS TO GET THAT 
COMPONENT OF THE TESTING DONE.
BUT THERE IS MORE TO DO.
AND, OF COURSE, I WILL ALSO SAY 
THAT TESTING IS ONE LAYER OF 
WHAT I WOULD CALL A HEALTH 
SAFETY NET THAT WE WILL NEED TO 
BE PUTTING INTO PLACE SO THAT 
PROVINCES, TERRITORIES AND 
COMMUNITIES CAN GET BACK TO THE 
NEW NORMAL.
ARRIVE AT THE NEW NORMAL, IF 
YOU WILL.
THAT TESTING STRATEGY HAS BEEN 
EVOLVING AND WE'RE EXTREMELY 
ENCOURAGED BY THE WORK OF THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES.
AND I'LL TURN TO DR. TAM.
MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK A LITTLE 
BIT ABOUT THE SPECIAL 
COMMITTEE'S WORK ON TESTING.
>> YES AND IT WILL KEEP ON AN 
UNDERGOING EVOLUTION AS WE MOVE 
TO THE NEXT REALITY, IF YOU 
LIKE.
SO RIGHT NOW I THINK MANY 
JURISDICTIONS ARE STILL 
INCREASING THE CAPACITY AND 
INCLUDING ONTARIO AND OTHERS 
HAVE REALLY RAMPED UP THE 
TESTING.
AND BROADENING TESTING, OF 
COURSE, TO FOCUS ON, SAY, 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES BECAUSE 
SYSTEMATICALLY TESTING OF THEM 
AND MUCH MORE WIDELY IS VERY, 
VERY IMPORTANT SO YOU SEE THE 
RISE IN NUMBERS AS A RESULT OF 
THOSE SYSTEMATIC TESTING 
APPROACHES.
IN TERMS OF GOING FORWARDS, 
MAKE SURE WE WIDEN THE TESTING 
CREW.
-- TESTING CRITERIA.
CERTAINLY TO LOOK AT A BROADER 
ARRAY OF SYMPTOMS, EVEN MILD 
SYMPTOMS.
RIGHT NOW VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE 
SHOWING UP TO BE TESTED, GIVEN 
THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE 
RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES.
WE ARE RAPIDLY IDENTIFYING 
CASES WITH CONTACTS AND ANY 
OUTBREAKS PARTICULARLY IN 
VULNERABLE SETTINGS WHERE YOU 
HAVE TO CAST THEM NET-WISE IN 
TERMS OF TESTING.
SOME OF THE AREAS FOR SURE AS 
WE GO FORWARD.
BUT I THINK WE CONTINUE TO 
EVOLVE, THE STRATEGY RIGHT NOW.
AND IT ALL INVOLVES ACTUALLY 
INCREASING CAPACITY AND I THINK 
WE'RE ALL LOOKING TO PLAN FOR 
ALL EVENTUALITIES, FOR EXAMPLE, 
FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT 
WINTER.
MAKING SURE WE GEAR UP AND BE 
PREPARED.
IT IS A VERY, VERY DYNAMIC 
SITUATION AND VERY COMPLICATED 
FROM EVERY ASPECT OF THE 
SOURCING OF THESE DIFFERENT 
COMPONENTS OF THE LAB TESTING.
BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE PULLING 
OUT ALL THE STOPS INCLUDING 
DOMESTIC OPTIONS.
SO I THINK WE'RE WORKING ALL 
TOWARDS INCREASING LAB CAPACITY 
FOR SURE.
>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
>> DR. TAM, ON FRIDAY, YOU 
TALKED AGAIN ABOUT THE NEED TO 
BE CAUTIOUS IN THE RE-OPENINGS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS OF 
IMPORTATION AND I WANT TO 
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING 
ABOUT AND WHAT NOW THAT YOU'VE 
SEEN THAT THE U.S. HAS NEARLY 
ONE-THIRD OF GLOBAL CASES, WHAT 
IS YOUR CONCERN THERE AND HOW 
SOON DO YOU THINK THAT THAT 
BORDER CAN BE RE-OPENED?
>> I'LL START AND THEN TURN TO 
DR. TAM IN TERMS OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO 
IN THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE DONE 
CAREFULLY AND IN TERMS OF THE 
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED 
STATES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 
UNITED STATES AND I THINK THAT 
THE PRIME MINISTER AND MANY 
OTHERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON 
MAKING SURE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS 
STAY STRONG AND WE CAN HAVE 
THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THAT IS PART OF THE WORK THAT 
WE'RE DOING NOW AS A GOVERNMENT 
IS TO SORT OUT HOW WE DO A 
BETTER JOB WHEN WE BEGIN TO SEE 
AN INCREASE IN TRAVEL.
WHETHER IT'S CANADIANS GOING 
ABROAD AND THEN COMING BACK, 
WHICH THEY WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE 
RIGHT TO DO AND HOW WE MANAGE 
THOSE RE-ENTRIES CAREFULLY SO 
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PREVENT 
NUMBERS OF CASES FROM ARISING 
FROM COUNTRIES THAT PERHAPS 
DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD HANDLE 
ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR 
COUNTRY FROM INFECTIOUS 
PERSPECTIVE OR THAT MAYBE HAVE 
OUTBREAKS THAT WILL CREATE A 
HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERN FOR 
CANADA.
BUT I CAN MAYBE TURN TO DR. TAM 
ABOUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS 
AROUND BORDERS THAT ARE 
HAPPENING AT THE COMMITTEE.
>> WE WILL BE EXTREMELY 
CAUTIOUS ABOUT DOING ANY 
CHANGES TO OUR INTERNATIONAL 
PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH.
IT IS DEPENDENT ON LOOKING 
CAREFULLY AT THE -- WHAT'S 
HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTRIES 
FOR SURE.
BUT OUR APPROACH, THOUGH, IS TO 
MAKE SURE WE GET WHAT IS INSIDE 
CANADA WELL MANAGED, WELL 
CONTROLLED AND MOVING TOWARDS 
THAT NEW LIVING WITH COVID-19 
AS THE PRIMARY STEP BEFORE WE 
CAN CONSIDER WHAT WE NEED TO 
ADJUST FROM OUR INTERNATIONAL 
PERSPECTIVE.
>> AND I NOTICED TODAY YOU 
HAVEN'T -- AT LEAST IN A LITTLE 
WHILE AGO, THE WEBSITES HADN'T 
BEEN UPDATED WITH THE NEW 
INFECTIONS PICTURE IN CANADA.
YESTERDAY, NEW CASES SEEM TO 
HAVE PICKED UP A BIT.
AND I AM UNCLEAR ON WHAT THE 
NATIONAL PICTURE IS.
YOU SAY ALL THE PROVINCES 
MANAGED THEIR OWN DATA.
BUT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 
GETS THAT DATA, YOU ARE NOT 
RELEASING PROVINCIAL DATA.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, A, WHAT 
-- WHAT IS THE NATIONAL PICTURE 
RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
HAVE WE SUCCESSFULLY FLATENED 
THE CURVE?
WHERE ARE WE ON THE CURVE?
AND HAVE YOU ASKED THE 
PROVINCES TO ALLOW YOU TO 
RELEASE THEIR DATA OR ARE THEY 
TELLING YOU YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED 
TO RELEASE THEIR DATA?
>> SO, WE HAVE BEEN PUBLISHING 
THE NATIONAL PICTURE AND 
UPDATING IT EVERY DAY.
SO IN TERMS OF OUR WEBSITE.
WHAT WE DO SWANL A DEEPER DIVE 
INTO DETAILS.
YOU WILL SEE THE MAP OF CANADA 
AND THE NUMBERS UPDATED IN 
REALTIME AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, 
THE TRAGIC DEATHS THAT HAVE 
BEEN REPORTED AS WELL.
WHAT WE DO WANT TO  GET TO AND 
WE'RE IMPROVING AS WE GO ALONG 
IS A DEEPER DIVE ON TO THE 
ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHO IS MOST 
SEVERELY IMPACTED.
WE ALL KNOW LONG-TERM CARE 
FACILITIES AND CERTAIN AT-RISK 
POPULATIONS ARE IMPACTED, BUT 
WE DO NEED MORE GRANULAR DATA 
ON SOME OF THAT, FOR SURE.
I THINK THAT INTERESTINGLY, 
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS -- I 
WOULD SAY IT IS PART OF THE 
STRONGER TOGETHER THEME WHEN I 
WAS THINKING ABOUT IT IS THAT 
PUBLIC HEALTH AND CHIEF MEDICAL 
PERSPECTIVE PARTNERSHIP IS 
STRONG.
BUT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR 
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW WE DO 
DATA COLLECTION AND SHARING IN 
A WAY THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT 
FOR THE FRONTLINE AND BUSY 
TRYING TO WORK ON ALL SORTS OF 
THINGS WHILE STILL GETTING THE 
NATIONAL DATA THAT WE NEED.
SO, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF 
ROOM FOR MOVING FORWARD TO 
REALLY ENHANCE THAT.
AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT, YOU 
KNOW, AS WE GET THROUGH THIS 
PANDEMIC TOGETHER, WE DON'T 
FORGET PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE 
NEED FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND WHAT 
THAT CAPACITY REQUIREMENT IS TO 
PROVIDE SOMETHING WHAT PEOPLE 
THINK IS SIMPLE, WHICH IS DATA.
DATA COMES FROM DIFFERENT 
SOURCES FROM HEALTH CARE, FROM 
LABS, FROM PUBLIC HEALTH, ALL 
OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY 
NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND WE 
NEED TO LOOK AT THE MOST 
EFFICIENT WAY THAT WE CAN DO 
THAT.
AND IT IS AN AREA THAT WE NEED 
TO ADDRESS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- WE DO 
HAVE A LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
AND THEY HAVE MANAGED NOT TO 
HAVE IT.
SOME THAT HAVE HAD COMMUNITY 
TRANSMISSION AND ARE GETTING 
ADDRESSED.
BUT OF COURSE THE FOUR BIGGEST 
PROVINCES WERE MOST OF THE 
CASES ARE COMING FROM A 
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STAGE IN THE 
EPIDEMIOLOGY AND THEY HAVE BEEN 
ERRORING ON THAT AS WELL.
AND THAT IMPANGS THE DETAIL AND 
THE PLANNING OF THAT NEXT PHASE 
AND YOU WILL HEAR THE SORT OF 
DETAILS FROM EACH OF THE 
INDIVIDUAL PROVINCES AS WELL.
WE AT THIS SPECIAL ADVISORY 
LEVEL IS LOOKING AT A BROAD SET 
OF CRITERIA OF HOW 
JURISDICTIONS COULD GO ABOUT 
MOVING INTO THAT NEXT PHASE.
>> WOOLED BUFFALO HAS ASKED THE 
MILITARY TO ASSIST IN THE 
EVACUATION BECAUSE OF DMRAODING 
AND STUFF.
WILL THE MILITARY BE MADE 
AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THIS 
SITUATION?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, 
MIKE.
WE ARE AWARE OF THE FLOODING IN 
FORT McMURRAY.
AND ARE LOOKING RIGHT NOW 
URGENTLY AT WAYS WE CAN HELP.
AS WE HAVE KNOWN FROM THE 
OUTSET, THE FACT THAT FLOODING 
SEASON AND, IN DUE COURSE, 
FOREST FIRE SEASON IS 
COINCIDESING WITH CORONAVIRUS 
IN CANADA, IS POSING SOME 
SPECIAL CHALLENGES. 
WE HAVE BEEN GEARING UP FOR 
THOSE FROM THE OUTSET AND THIS 
IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING 
AT URGENTLY TODAY.
>> Rosemary: OK.
WE'LL PULL AWAY FROM THIS 
FEDERAL BRIEFING.
THAT WAS THE DEPUTY PRIME 
MINISTER CHRYSTIA FREELAND 
RESPONDING TO A QUESTION ABOUT 
MILITARY SUPPORT IN ALBERTA 
WHERE FIRE SEASON HAS STARTED 
IN FORT McMURRAY AND OTHER 
COMMUNITY AROUND IT AND THEY 
ARE ASKING FOR MILITARY SUPPORT 
THAT WILL COME.
AT THE SAME PRESS CONFERENCE, 
WE DID GET A SENSE OF THE 
MILITARY SUPPORT THAT IS 
HEADING INTO QUEBEC.
15 LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES 
HAVE NOW BEEN TARGETED OR 
SELECTED AS PARTICULAR CRISIS 
POINTS FOR QUEBEC AND THE 
MILITARY WILL BE SENT INTO 
THOSE 15 FACILITIES TO HELP OUT 
IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.
AS WE COME TO THE END OF OUR 
COVERAGE TODAY, I'LL BRING BACK 
VASSY KAPELOS AND DAVID 
COCHRANE.
VASSY?
>> Vassy: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE HEARD A LOT FROM DR. TAM AS 
WELL AS THE HEALTH MINISTER ON 
THE CONCEPT OF DIFFERENT PARTS 
OF SOCIETY HAVE TO HIT FOR THAT 
RE-OPENING PROCESS OR AS DAVID 
PUT IT, MAYBE NOT JUST THE 
ECONOMY BUT SOCIETY AS A WHOLE 
TO TAKE PART OR TO TAKE PLACE.
AND I THOUGHT THE COMMENTS 
AROUND TESTING AND PARTICULARLY 
WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE W.S H.O. 
THIS WEEKEND IN WHICH THEY 
FIRST SAID THERE IS NO -- OR 
THEY DID SAY THERE IS NO 
OBVIOUS THAT THE SEROLOGICAL 
TESTING, SO TESTING ONCE TO 
SHOW YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IS 
ACTUALLY WORKING AND THEN THEY 
HAD TO BACKTRACK AND SAY WE 
THINK THAT IT LIKELY -- YOU 
LIKELY ARE IMMUNE, BUT WE JUST 
DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
THAT IS TRUE.
WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF EVIDENCE.
THERE ARE INSTANCES, FOR 
EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE 
ANTIBODIES AND YOU'RE NOT 
NECESSARILY IMMUNE.
DR. NAYLOR TALKED ABOUT THAT 
LAST WEEK.
BUT IT DOES BRING UP HOW 
COMPLICATE IT MIGHT BE TO 
FIGURE OUT WHAT IS SAFE TO 
RE-OPEN.
HOW SAFE IS IT?
AND THE LAST COMMENT FROM DR. 
TAM ABOUT THOSE PROVINCES THAT 
HAVE MORE CASES ARE AT A 
DIFFERENT POINT ON THE CURVE 
THAN MANY PROVINCES THAT WE 
HAVE SEEN FLATTEN THE CURVE 
WHERE THERE IS FEWER INSTANCES, 
FOR EXAMPLE, OF COMMUNITY 
TRANSMISSION.
SO VERY REGIONAL DIFFERENCES.
>> Rosemary: ON THE TESTING 
CRITERIA, THE FACT THAT DR. TAM 
SAID WE'LL NEED TO BROADEN THE 
CRITERIA BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS 
OF PEOPLE SHOWING WHOUP DON'T 
HAVE RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS.
THAT ALSO COMPLICATES THINGS IF 
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE 
LOOKING FOR AT THAT POINT.
HARD TO FIND OUT WHAT PICTURE 
YOU HAVE IN THE COUNTRY 
OVERALL, DAVID.
>> Reporter: THE COMMENT IS 
RIGHT AND THE ANSWERS TO THE 
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN CAN WE 
RE-OPEN AND  WHAT ABOUT THE 
SEROLOGICAL TESTING AND HERD 
IMMUNITY, IS WHAT IS NOT KNOWN 
ABOUT THIS VIE RUFMS IT'S 
CALLED THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS 
BECAUSE IT IS BRAND-NEW.
EVEN THOUGH IN EVERY COUNTRY IN 
FACT WORLD THERE IS SCIENTIFIC 
EVIDENCE AND DATA TO MAKE FIRM 
CONCLUSIONS IT JUST ISN'T THERE 
AND WON'T BE THERE FAR WHILE.
THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLE 
LABORATORY TESTING AND VACCINE 
DEVELOPMENTS AND SCIENTIFIC 
EXPERIMENTS GOING ON TO FIND 
OUT MORE ABOUT IT AND QUITE 
FRANKLY CANADA IS NOT AT A 
POINT THAT CANADA HAS 
BROAD-BASED TESTING TO DRAW ANY 
FIRM CONCLUSIONS.
ONLY RECENTLY ONTARIO HAS 
BROADLY EXPAND ASSESSING TO 
EVERYBODY IN A LONG-TERM CARE 
HOME AND THAT IS WHERE THE 
SINGULAR CRISIS IS, IN THIS 
COUNTRY.
IT'S IN THOSE LONG-TERM CARE 
AND GROUP HOME SETTINGS WITH 
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
SO, UNTIL THAT GETS UNDER 
CONTROL, THE SORT OF LEVEL OF 
CERTAINTY WE'RE GOING TO NEED 
TO MAKE BIG DECISIONS IS JUST 
NOT GOING TO BE THERE UNTIL 
TESTING HAS EXPANDED AND THE 
SCIENCE HAS EVOLVED.
>> Rosemary: OK.
THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR 
ALL OF YOUR HELP.
YOU CAN SEE VASSY KAPELOS ON 
"POWER & POLITICS" AT 5:00 
EASTERN AND DAVID IN VARIOUS 
LOCATIONS I'M SURE THROUGH THE 
DAY.
THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'LL WRAP UP THE COVERAGE.
REMINDING YOU THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT FOCUS TODAY IS ON 
THE WAGE SUBSIDY PROGRAMME.
IT IS NOW OPEN.
THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS THE 
10,000 COMPANIES HAVE APPLIED 
SO FAR FOR 75% SUBSIDY OF 
WAGESING.
THAT IS ONLINE AND AVAILABLE TO 
COMPANIES EVERYWHERE.
AND ON THAT, I'LL LEAVE OUR 
COVERAGE, KNOWING THAT WE'LL BE 
LOOKING TO WARD NOW WITHIN THE 
NEXT HOUR TO THE COVERAGE OF 
ONTARIO PREMIER DOUG FORD AND 
HIS PLAN TO RE-OPEN ONTARIO.
ANDREW, OVER TO YOU.
[PLEASE STAND BY
