JUAN WILLIAMS --
5:00 IN NEW YORK CITY, THIS IS
"THE FIVE."
A HUGE LEAD FOR DEMOCRATS AND
JOE BIDEN AS THEY KICK OFF THEIR
NATIONAL CONVENTION TONIGHT AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID TO GIVE A
SPEECH GOING AFTER BIDEN IN THE
KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE OF
WISCONSIN.
WE WILL BRING THAT FOR YOU.
AS FOR THE DEMOCRATS, CROWD,
CONFETTI, BALLOONS, MOST EVENTS
IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD.
MICHELLE OBAMA DELIVERING THE
KEYNOTE ADDRESS AND
BERNIE SANDERS IS SET TO UNIFY
HIS PROGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN.
PRESIDENT TRUMP ALREADY TURNING
IN HIS REVIEW.
>> MICHELLE OBAMA, WHY DON’T
THEY TELL ME THAT, I WILL TAKE
MY SPEECH.
NEXT WEEK I WILL TAPE IT.
I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS
REFLECTIVE OF EVERY WORD.
I WILL GIVE IT FIVE OR SIX GOES,
IT WILL BE THE BEST ONE.
WHAT IS THIS ABOUT THE SPEECHES?
HER SPEECH IS TAPED AND THAT
MOST OF THEM ARE TAPED.
DO YOU WANT TO GO TO A SNOOZE?
WHEN YOU HEAR IT IS TAPED, IT’S
LIKE THERE IS NOTHING REALLY
EXCITING ABOUT IT, RIGHT?
>> Dana: AHEAD OF THAT
CONVENTION THE RACE IS
TIGHTENING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP
NARROWING WHAT ONCE WAS A BIG
GAP WITH BIDEN, BUT SHOWING THAT
BIDEN IS HOLDING STEADY OVER
PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR NOW.
THIS IS USUALLY THE BEGINNING OF
THE OFFICIAL ON SWITCH FOR THE
CAMPAIGN, GREG GUTFELD, WHAT DO
YOU EXPECT AS YOU SEE
PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING COUNTER
PROGRAMMING, HE IS GOING TO GO
OUT AND GO TO THE BATTLEGROUND
STATES AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY LINE THAN
THE DEMOCRATS WANT.
>> Greg: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU
ARE DOING THE SHOW FROM A WATER
THEME PARK.
>> Dana: I DID NOT KNOW IF YOU
COULD HEAR IT.
>> Greg: YOU CAN HEAR IT.
IT IS POURING.
>> Dana: THE GOOD NEWS IS
THERE ARE BLUE SKIES COMING THIS
WAY, SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE IN
BETTER SHAPE.
I WILL JUST TURN IT OVER FOR YOU
TO MAKE WHATEVER COMMENT YOU
WOULD LIKE.
>> Greg: IT’S A WEIRD THING
ABOUT THE COUNTER PROGRAMMING,
BECAUSE THE COUNTER PROGRAMMING
EVEN WHEN HE IS NOT THERE, LIKE
HE PUTS THE DEMOCRATS IN A WEIRD
SPOT, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE FOR A
LAW AND ORDER OR A COMMON SENSE
RESPONSE TO CRIME AND VIOLENCE,
WHICH TRUMP IS, AND PRETTY MUCH
EVERYBODY IS, THEN AS A
DEMOCRAT, YOU CAN’T VOICE THAT
SAME DESIRE, BECAUSE THEN IF YOU
SAY, HEY, REFORM IS GREAT, BUT
CHAOS IS WRONG, YOU ARE EVIL BY
ASSOCIATION, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU
ARE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IF YOU
VOICE COMMON SENSE, YOU YOU
AGREE WITH THIS EVIL ORANGE
MONSTER, SO INSTEAD YOU DECIDE
TO SPEND THREE HOURS PROBABLY
LIKE ON THE IDENTITY POLITICS
FACTIONS OF THE VOTERS AND YOU
HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN
THE SCATHING CRITICISM OF
AMERICAN VALUES, BECAUSE YOU
KNOW, WE ARE RACIST, SEXIST,
IMPERIALISTS BENT ON OPPRESSION,
BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME ASKING
FOR YOUR VOTE.
SO A POLITICAL VOTER HAS TO SAY
THEY REALLY HATE AMERICA, BUT
THEY WANT ME TO VOTE FOR THEM.
I DON’T KNOW.
>> Dana: I WAS THINKING AS THE
PRESIDENT HAS DONE THE TWO
EVENTS TODAY THAT HE HAS A
DIFFERENT DEMEANOR WHEN HE IS
OUT AND ABOUT, HE IS NOT AT THE
WHITE HOUSE PODIUM IN THE
BRIEFING ROOM, HE FEELS A LITTLE
BIT MORE IN HIS ELEMENT.
HE SEEMS TO LOVE THE CAMPAIGN,
WHAT DID YOU TAKE AWAY FROM IT?
>> LOOKS LIKE THEY FOUND OUT
WHAT THE MAGIC TOUCH WILL BE
COMING IN THROUGH HIM IN THEIR
IN THE HANGAR AND HAVE PEOPLE
SOCIALLY DISTANCE OUTSIDE AND
THEN HE JUST RIFF IN THE
BATTLEGROUND AND THEN HE GETS IN
AND GETS OUT WALL JOE IS ASLEEP
IN THE BASEMENT.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE MORE OF
THIS, BUT THE DEMOCRATS USUALLY
TELL YOU WHAT THEIR PROBLEM IS,
BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO
LOOK FOR IT.
LUCKILY I KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR
IT.
WHEN THE DEMOCRATS SAY THIS WEEK
IS ALL ABOUT UNITY, THAT MEANS
THEY ARE NOT UNITED.
THEY DID THIS IN 2016, NOW THEY
ARE DOING IT AGAIN, THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS BASICALLY
TWO FACTIONS.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CRAZY WHO
DON’T CARE IF YOU KNOW THEY ARE
CRAZY, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
CRAZY BUT TRY NOT TO HAVE
EVERYBODY FIND OUT THEY ARE
CRAZY.
SO THIS WEEK IS GOING TO BE A
COMBINATION OF THESE TWO PEOPLE
JUST THROWING A LOT OF HATE
SPEECHES ADD TO YOU -- I TRY NOT
TO BE OFFENDED BY THAT.
SOMETIMES "WATTERS’ WORLD" IS ON
TAPE.
I MIGHT HAVE TO GO LIVE, BUT IT
LOOKS LIKE BIDEN HAS NO BASE AND
EVEN BARACK OBAMA IS CONCERNED
ABOUT THEM GETTING IT ACROSS THE
FINISH LINE.
TO THE POLL WHICH SENT
SHOCK WAVES THROUGHOUT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BECAUSE NOW
THE PRESIDENT CUT TEN POINTS
INTO THE LEAD AND IN
BATTLEGROUNDS IT IS DEAD EVEN.
THAT STILL UNDER SAMPLING
REPUBLICANS BY SIX POINTS AND
NOT LIKELY VOTERS, STILL ONLY
CALLING REGISTERED VOTERS, SO
THAT IS AGAINST THE ENTHUSIASM
GAP RIGHT THERE.
BUT I DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE
HISTORICAL POLLING THIS WEEKEND,
AND --
>> Dana: NOT AGAIN.
>> Jesse: GUESS HOW MANY TIMES
THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINEE HAS BEEN LEADING IN THE
RACE IN THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST
OF AUGUST?
ONE TIME IN 20 YEARS, AND IT WAS
20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS
GEORGE W. BUSH WAS AHEAD IN THE
THIRD WEEK.
>> Dana: BUT HE WAS NOT AHEAD
IN JUNE.
>> Jesse: IS ALWAYS UPDATED
COME COME-FROM-BEHIND WIN.
>> Dana: ALL RIGHT, "WATTERS’
WORLD," WE WILL KEEP GOING.
JUAN, I WILL ASK YOU ABOUT THIS,
CAN WE LOOK AT EACH OTHER?
>> AND THEY DON’T ME TO LOOK AT
YOU.
>> Dana: OKAY, OUR FIRST TIME
TOGETHER AND WE ARE SCREWING IT
UP.
BUT HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE
THAT GETTING ALONG WITH THE
BIDEN PEOPLE HAS BEEN MUCH
BETTER THAN IN 2016 WHEN THE
BERNIE SANDERS PEOPLE TRIED TO
UNIFY WITH THE CLINTON PEOPLE,
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE
HEARD?
WILL THAT HELP THEM AS THEY TRY
TO KICK THINGS OFF TONIGHT?
>> Juan: NO DOUBT ABOUT IT,
WHAT A DISTINCT IMPROVEMENT IT
IS IN TERMS OF HUMAN
RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN
BERNIE SANDERS AND JOE BIDEN AS
OPPOSED TO BERNIE SANDERS AND
HILLARY CLINTON.
JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE SANDERS
ACTUALLY GET ALONG AND CAN HAVE
CONVERSATIONS AND THE EVIDENCE
IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
SINCE BIDEN CLAIMED THE
NOMINATION TO BRING BOTH
FACTIONS OF THE PARTY TOGETHER.
BUT TONIGHT IS NOT ABOUT
PLACATING ANY SPLIT WITHIN THE
PARTY AND CRAZY AS I AM BECAUSE
I AM A DEMOCRAT, THE FACT THAT
JOHN KASICH, A REPUBLICAN
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR OF OHIO IS
SPEAKING IS EVIDENCE THAT THIS
IS NOT ABOUT PLACATING THE LEFT,
TONIGHT IS ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA.
THAT’S WHAT WE WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT IN THE MORNING,
MICHELLE OBAMA WITH HER
37 MILLION INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS,
WITH HER 67% APPROVAL RATING,
OBVIOUSLY BIPARTISAN.
YOU DON’T GET THOSE NUMBERS
UNLESS WOMEN ON BOTH SIDES, AND
THAT’S THE POINT.
OF THE AUDIENCE ARE PEOPLE WHO
LISTEN TO MICHELLE OBAMA.
>> Dana: WE HAVE A PREVIOUS
THOUGHT OF MICHELLE OBAMA.
AND THEN WE WILL GET TO
KATY PERRY >> HE IS A PROFOUNDLY
DECENT MAN GUIDED BY FAITH.
HE WAS A TERRIFIC
VICE PRESIDENT.
HE KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO RESCUE
AND ECONOMY, BEAT BACK A
AND ECONOMY, BEAT BACK A
PANDEMIC, AND LEAD OUR COUNTRY.
>> Juan: WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT
THE VIRUS AND RACE RELATIONS,
WHEN SHE TALKS TOO AS SHE SAID
RECENTLY, THE WHOLE ATMOSPHERE
WITH THE QUARANTINE AND THE
POLITICS IS JUST AS DEPRESSING,
SHE IS SPEAKING ON A LEVEL THAT
RESONATES.
IT PENETRATES WITH A LOT OF
AMERICANS.
THE MEMORABLE LINE FROM THE 2016
CONVENTION WAS MICHELLE OBAMA’S,
WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH.
>> Dana: ONE OF THE THINGS HE
MENTIONS, JOHN KASICH AS A
REPUBLICAN HAVING SOME SPEAKING
TIME TONIGHT, NOT AS BIG OF A
PUNCH AS THE DEMOCRATS DO,
BECAUSE THEY ARE GIVING HIM MORE
SPEAKING TIME THEN
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ.
>> Katie: JUAN IS RIGHT THAT
THEY ARE TRYING TO MOVE THE
PARTY INTO A MODERATE DIRECTION
WHILE ALSO PLACATING THE
BERNIE SANDERS PORTION OF THE
PARTY, BECAUSE IN THE SWING
STATES THAT JOE BIDEN REALLY
NEEDS VOTERS TO COME OUT AND
SUPPORT HIM LIKE MICHIGAN AND
WISCONSIN, BERNIE SANDERS LOCKS
DOWN A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF
VOTES IN THE PRIMARY.
THE LAST TIME AROUND THEY SAW
WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO LOSE IF THEY
DON’T GO OUT AND SUPPORT THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES.
IN TERMS OF THE THEME TONIGHT
FOR THE DEMOCRATS IT’S ALL ABOUT
UNITY, IT WILL BE A LOT ABOUT
RACE, BUT DEMOCRATS HAVE TO BE
VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PUSHING TOO
FAR ON THE IDENTITY POLITICS AND
THIS IDEA THAT THEY ARE TELLING
AMERICANS THAT THEY ARE A RACIST
COUNTRY, THAT THEY HAVE THIS
INHERENT RACISM THAT THEY NEED
TO ADDRESS, I THINK THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT THEY DID AFTER
EIGHT YEARS OF OBAMA, PEOPLE GOT
REALLY TIRED.
THEY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU CAN ONCE RACIAL REFORM
WITHOUT DEMAGOGUE GOING ABOUT IT
AND INSULTING THE VERY PEOPLE
YOU ARE TRYING TO GET TO VOTE
