- [Interviewer] When you
practised your shooting,
where did you hold the gun?
- [Martin Bryant] On the left.
- So you're left handed?
- I write with this hand.
- That's right, sorry, yeah.
( Bryant mumbling)
So if you held a gun,
you would pull the
trigger with your finger
on your left hand?
- Yeah, that's right.
- All right.
And did you ever practise
shooting from the hilt?
- No, never.
- Never?
(slow solemn music)
- [Man] Welcome to the
Port Arthur Historic site.
- My name is Paul, I'm your
guide for the next 40 minutes,
and what I'm aiming to do
is give you an overview
of the history here at Port Arthur.
- Martin, do you remember
the 28th of April,
Sunday the 28th of April this year?
- Uh, no I don't.
Is that the day I suppose
everyone's talking about?
(gunshots)
- That's a shotgun.
- That's a shotgun.
(gunshots)
- [Man] Let's stay inside,
I'm pretty sure someone's got a gun.
In fact, we're bloody positive of it.
(gunshots)
- [Man] There's somebody going
crazy shooting people here.
(gunshot)
(man groaning)
- You know what's happened on that day?
- What's happened?
- The 28th of April?
You don't?
You're sure about that?
- Positive.
- [Man] There he is, he's over there.
I can't believe it.
- Any idea who he was?
- No, no idea.
Not a local, I don't think.
- Any idea why?
- No, no idea.
(muffled voices)
(kookaburras calling)
- [Woman] He's getting into a yellow car.
(voices muffled)
- How many people died all together?
- [Interviewer] Including
people at Seascape?
35.
- And there's people injured?
Many?
(voices muffled)
- [Interviewer] Approximately 20.
- What, seriously?
(chuckles)
- [Man] That's the first ambulance
in about 35 minutes.
- I cannot understand.
He did not say one word.
He never ran.
He walked everywhere.
Just shooting people.
(intense music)
- [Narrator] We all know the crime.
The staggering scale of it.
The awful loss of life.
But the person responsible is an enigma,
seen but never heard.
We're about to change all that.
- I thought, Christ, what's
this fellow going to be like?
Is he Hannibal Lecter like?
Is he just plain evil?
- [Reporter] Representing Martin Bryant,
his new lawyer, John Avery,
appointed after Bryant had
pleaded not guilty six weeks ago.
- [Narrator] And like the
man who got to know him
best at the time, you'll be able to form
a very clear picture of
this infamous individual.
With the help of
never-before-seen police video,
hand drawings of the murder
scene by Bryant himself,
and the inside account from his lawyer,
we'll seek to discover how
and why this horror happened
and who Martin Bryant really is.
- In your own words you went
there for that first meeting
with a sense of trepidation?
- Yeah, I did, I did.
It was pretty soon dispelled I might say,
when he was wheeled in in a wheelchair
with his legs manacled and handcuffed
and with a big grin on his
face like a big schoolboy.
I didn't any longer see any
connection with Hannibal Lecter.
- [Woman] Martin, it's not funny.
- I can't explain anything
because I don't know any about
- It's not funny is it?
- What isn't?
- This, what I'm talking about.
So why do you laugh?
- Because it's good to get out of my cell.
(click)
- [Narrator] Why are you speaking now?
- It's a way of me finally
putting the Martin Bryant
saga behind me.
It's, it's been around
in some ways for so long
that hopefully now I can bury it.
(gentle music)
- [Interviewer] Back
in the 80's the younger
Martin Bryant wandered
the streets of Hobart
selling rabbits to his neighbours.
At the time, John Avery was a young lawyer
and lived with his wife
around the corner from Bryant.
- I didn't realise that
there was any connection,
but he, he quickly told
me, "Oh do you still live
in the big house with an oak
tree in the front and does
your wife drive a Holden
station waggon, and do you
drive a white Mercedes?"
I said, "Yeah, yeah" and we got talking.
I went home and I said to my wife,
do we know this fella?
"Oh yes," she said, "don't
you remember he used
to come around as a
little boy selling rabbits
around the neighbourhood
and I'd never let him
in the door because
he'd peer around like he
wanted to see what was inside."
- That small connection
would help John Avery years
later when he was called
on to be Bryant's lawyer
and needed to build trust.
- I thought that was the thread I needed,
that somewhat personal contact,
to hold on to him through this,
through this process and rightly
or wrongly I used it.
- But didn't it frighten
you to think this man
has killed more than 30 people,
injured more than that?
- No it didn't frighten me
once I saw him because I
could see that without the
gun, without the weapon
he was nothing.
He was a nobody.
He was a sad, insipid,
little boy.
- We've got some of the guns here.
Mr. Warren might hold them up,
and we'd like to talk about
each one individually.
(muffled)
- [Bryant] (laughs) Oh to be you.
Is it loaded?
- No, it's not loaded.
- To understand how Bryant had
become a cold-blooded killer,
Avery needed to get inside his head.
He hired forensic psychiatrist
Professor Paul Mullen.
- All that was required to
get him talking and keep him
talking was to show an interest.
- It was all about him.
- Yes, absolutely all about him.
Bryant was a good-looking young man.
Blonde, blue-eyed handsome.
Child like.
One of the problems I think
throughout Brian's life
is that he looked an attractive
kid, he looked an attractive
adolescent, he looked an attractive adult.
He also looked an intelligent
kid, an intelligent adolescent
and an intelligent adult but he wasn't.
So people who met him had expectations of
what he'd be able to say and do and how
he'd react, which he couldn't live up to.
- The photos we have of
Bryant's childhood don't appear
to show anything out of the ordinary.
He grew up in this house
with his mum and dad
and little sister.
When he was 12, he made the
local TV news after injuring
himself with fireworks.
- Do you think you'll be playing
with firecrackers anymore?
- Yes.
- Don't you think you
learned a lesson from this?
- Yes but I'm still playing with it.
- This was a dim child
who didn't look dim.
This was a kiddie who
struggled in lots of ways
from a very early stage.
I mean I think his parents
almost certainly did the
best they could.
I mean he has a sister who
grew up perfectly normally.
Nothing incompetent or
abusive or terrible about
his parenting, there was nothing at all
deprived or damaging about
his family background.
It was,
the nature of this dim, irritable boy
who people, really no
one could manage well.
- How come you never got around to getting
a driver's licence?
- [Martin Bryant] I didn't
think I would even pass.
The course, because I'm not that bright.
At school he was knocked around
and he in turn learned to
knock around.
- I'm not sure which came
first, he was certainly would
get angry and frustrated
and lash out of people at
school and,
of course others children
found him odd and difficult.
He was never placed in the
kind of special schooling
that would have been appropriate for
someone of his intellectual,
or lack of intellectual abilities.
Partly, I suspect again,
because his appearance.
He looks so good.
- Bryant was a loner.
He struggled to fit in.
He dropped out of school
before turning 16.
- He told you, "All I wanted
was for people to like me."
And that, in a sense, was
where his rage came from.
He couldn't understand why
people didn't like him.
Couldn't understand why
people moved away from him.
He believes that this was
because they were malicious,
had it in for him, and it was
all terribly, terribly unfair.
- But Bryant did strike up
an unexpected friendship
with this woman, Helen
Harvey, an heir to the
Tattersalls lottery fortune.
She died in a mysterious car accident.
Bryant was also in the car, and suffered a
serious neck injury.
She left him two
properties and more than a
half a million dollars.
- She died and left him rich.
- She died and left him very rich indeed.
- How did that affect 'im?
- I think it was a disaster.
He thought with that, would
come friends and would
come girlfriends, it
would come a social life
and all these things.
But what came with it, of
course, was people willing
to exploit him and certainly
take him on short term
to get what they could out of him.
- I said I wasn't interested
in the money, I was more
interested in what he
had to offer as a person.
- In 1995, the year before
the Port Arthur massacre,
Mary was Bryant's girlfriend.
She asked us to hide her identity.
They were together for eight
months and took several
holidays into States.
- I remember we were in
a restaurant in Sydney
and he was looking at
the age of something,
and I could tell he
wasn't really reading it.
I don't think he was that smart.
He was only just pretending
to try and impress me and
I remember smiling at him
and going along with it
to make 'im feel good about
himself, like he could be smart.
He was smart in some
ways but in some ways,
not very smart.
- On another date, Bryant
took her for a boat ride.
They ran out of petrol and
were stranded for hours.
- I started crying, he started crying.
(laughs) He started crying,
he thought that was it.
He thought we were gonna die.
I was hanging on to some hope
that something would might
drift somewhere.
- So in this boating mishap,
Martin Bryant was crying
because he thought he might die?
- Yes.
- Seems strange against all
the evidence of him going in
and shooting all these people.
He told some people that he
thought he'd rather die or
get captured.
But he did it,
without crying.
- I think he was genuinely
remorseful that he got me
in that situation too.
Remember he was just staring
at me and he felt guilty.
- Mary was 16, Bryant was 27.
Despite their age difference,
Bryant was serious
about the relationship.
- Did he ask you to marry him?
- He did ask me to marry him, yeah.
- What did you say?
- I was honest with him.
I didn't think he was too smart.
- Did he love you?
- Yeah, I think so.
- Was he capable of love?
- Yes, yeah.
- This is a point two two three Remington,
or Colt AR15.
Do you remember how much
you paid for that one?
- Probably a grand with the scope.
So a thousand dollars with the scope.
- Bryant had been planning a
massacre for several months.
Two weeks before the shootings,
he went into a department
store with a new girlfriend,
Petra Willmont, who purchased
a sports bag.
He measured it to make
sure it was large enough to
carry his stash of weapons.
- Seen that before?
- I believe you bought that
at Scarfe's, Fitzgerald or
somewhere in town, accompanied
with a young woman.
- [Narrator] Among the guns,
inside the bag, was one
similar to this.
- This is a serious weapon.
A Colt AR15.
A semi-automatic assault rifle.
It's one of three types of
weapons that Bryant took to
Port Arthur that day.
In the cafe, using a rifle just like this,
he took 15 seconds,
to kill 12 people and wound 10.
15 seconds, as measured by a
tape recording by a tourist.
15 seconds of fun and
excitement for Bryant,
15 seconds of immeasurable
tragedy for the victims
and their families.
And there was more to come.
(gunshot)
- That's a shot gun.
- That's a shot gun.
- Yeah, that sounded like it was real.
- See that man running
next to cars (mumble)
- [Reporter] Day trippers,
holiday makers and tourists,
young and old, massacred by a lone gunman.
- [Narrator] When the gunfire
stopped, 35 people were
dead,
23 injured.
- What would you think
about a person who has
killed 35 people?
What would you be your
opinion of that person?
- It's a weak and
horrible, horrendous thing.
I don't know.
- Did you (mumble)
- I reckon others were injured.
- There were many injured.
There were two little babies, killed.
Shot.
There have been many witnesses
who have given very graphic
description of you being
responsible for killing
those people.
- Indeed, it's sad, isn't it?
It's horrendous (mumble.)
Horrific.
For anyone to go down there
and do a thing like that.
(mumble)
- Thank you Mr. Warren.
- [Martin Bryant] Understand
that if I had an AR15 in here,
who knew, I'd probably get out.
Jump out the window, probably
jump through the window in
the escape because of (mumble)
(table creak)
(Drum beat)
- [Narrator] Martin Bryant
had been planning the
Port Arthur attacks for months.
He even circled the 28th
of April on his calendar.
The night before, he spent
here with his girlfriend Petra.
- You set the alarm clock
when you went to bed?
- No, never usually set an alarm.
- Police believe that
Bryant didn't normally use
his alarm clock.
But he set it for six am that day.
(alarm ringing)
They got up, took a
shower together, then sat
down for breakfast.
- We had breakfast, like
we used to do, and then
oh, would have a shower
together, then breakfast
and I told Petra I'd see her Monday.
- His girlfriend Petra said
that she had no idea what
he was planning and she
said she left at eight.
In the next hour or so,
Bryant drank from a bottle of
Sambuca while he gathered
his weapons and ammunition.
He set his house security alarm at 9:47.
- What'd you do?
- I went to,
I went to Port Andrew, surf.
- Though Bryant took his
surf board, he did not go
to a beach.
He'd loaded two semi-automatic
guns and a shot gun
in his yellow Volvo, he
headed towards Port Arthur.
- Stop anywhere along the way?
- Yeah I stopped and got a
cappachino yes and some (mumble).
- In fact, Bryant made
four stops on the way.
Here, at Midway Point to
buy a cigarette lighter.
He got a coffee in Forcett,
petrol at Taranna and in
Sorrell, he bought tomato sauce.
- Buy any tomato sauce on the way here?
- No, no tomato sauce.
- No?
- What would I want
tomato sauce for?
- I don't know.
(laughs)
- This was part of a bizarre
game that Bryant was playing
with police, admitting to
only small parts of the truth.
At first, he also lied to his
lawyer, John Avery, claiming
he didn't go to Port Arthur.
- I said, "Look man, that's just bullshit.
That doesn't sit with
anything that we know."
I think his response was he
laughed his head off and then
pretty much gave me a complete confession
that was consistent with the evidence
as I knew it.
- That laughing is a recurring theme.
Many people would think, "Well, he's nuts.
He's insane."
- Yeah, I never thought of it like that.
It was a girlish giggle, it
was at times uncontrollable.
It was a mannerism that maybe
he was getting pleasure out
of what he was relating, I don't know.
- Bryant also took strange
pleasure in drawing the horror
he had unleashed.
- Is he the figure in black shooting?
- He's the figure in black shooting and
the victims are
those in red.
It paints a pretty chilling
version of events from which
it's impossible to escape.
The conclusion that he's
certainly admitting full
responsibility for what happened.
- So he was happy about all this?
- When they were handed
to me, I said gleefully,
I think it was an element of
bragging in handing them over
and showing what he'd done.
- The drawings are a
step-by-step account of how the
murders went down.
He parked his Volvo at
the Sea Scape guest house,
he confronted David and Sally
Martin, killing the couple
and leaving them on their bed.
Bryant had wanted to buy
another property they owned
nearby on Lighthouse Road.
Avery learned that this is what triggered
the massacre that day.
- He had a long grudge against
them but he told me, and
I'll just quote his own words.
"I tried to buy the farm
off them before and offered
them a lot of money.
But Mrs. Martin would say to me,
'I'm never going to sell it.
It doesn't matter how much
money you offer me Martin.'
So I shot them in the head."
- So, true or false, he
had some sort of a reason
for shooting the Martins,
killing the Martins, but
why the other people?
- Well I think he realised
or thought that he would
either be killed himself or
at least go to jail for a
very long time and he thought
I might as well go out
in a big way, kill as many as I can.
(chilling drum beat)
- [Narrator] Bryant's most detailed sketch
was of the Broadhour Cafe.
He made it clear that he
started by sitting around here,
and then maybe while he
was sitting, he killed
probably two people at the next table.
Then he walked across here,
it's quite chilling to
be here, seeing his sketch
and knowing what he did.
Come over here and killed two people.
Came back
and then he saw a bunch of tables.
One, two...
Maybe eight tables.
He killed three at one table, three here.
He makes it quite clear,
specifically, he takes only
short steps and he kills
another six people.
And the word that keeps
coming back to me is how cold
and completely lacking in compassion.
It's hard to get your mind around that.
He then heads towards the exit.
He's about to leave but
he sees somebody else,
so he shoots and kills that person,
and then he leaves the
Broadhour Cafeteria.
The crayon drawings from Bryant
illustrate his next move.
The people he killed
in and around the buses
in the car park.
(gunshot)
- There's somebody going
crazy shooting people here.
- Oh!
- There he is, he's over there.
I can't believe it.
- [Narrator] Then came the
cold-blooded killing of
Nannette Mikac and her
children, Alannah and Madeline.
( car engine)
They approached Bryant's
car on this stretch of road,
not knowing he was the killer.
Nannette pleaded for the
lives of her children.
- [Man On Home Video]
That's him, all right.
- And the mother saying,
"Please, don't hurt my children."
- And almost, as if to spite
her, he kills them both.
One runs behind the tree
as if to escape him but
all in vain.
- He chases her.
- He chases her and kills her.
It's pretty chilling.
- [Man On Video] He's driven
up to the entrance gate.
- [Narrator] This sketch
illustrates where Bryant went next.
Stopping his car at a toll
booth, where he killed four
people in a BMW.
He then stole the car and
drove to a service station
where he killed a woman
and forced her boyfriend,
Glenn Pears, into the boot of the BMW.
The kidnapping was the only
crime Bryant admitted to police.
- [Martin Bryant] I was on
this car ride, right, and
(mumbles) the person
you think I kidnapped.
- Kidnapped 'im?
- Wait a second, how did
this guy get into the boot?
- I put 'im in the boot.
Just had the gun
- Which gun did you have?
I had the...
- Can Mr. Warren hold it up?
See, if people didn't do
these unfortunate things,
you guys wouldn't have a job.
- Well there's long truth in
that matter, let me tell you.
- [Mr. Warren] That one there?
- Yes, that was the one.
- This is the one
- And it's a sweet little gun.
It's so light (mumbles).
- Do you remember what you
said to him about this fire?
- I may, "G'day. Get
out of your car please?
I wanna take your car."
- And you had this pointed at him, did ya?
- Yeah, I had it pointed at him.
And moving backwards
and forwards, (mumble).
- Bryant's final act was
to drive Glenn Pears to the
Sea Scape guest house where,
during an all-night siege
with police, he shot 'im.
His 35th murder.
- You've written that when he
unloaded and finally told you
the truth about what he'd
done, he was thrilled.
- Yeah, I asked 'im whether there was any,
excitement.
He evidenced, to me, that it was as
thrilling as driving a car
at high speed or a speedboat.
So, there were certainly at
that aspect of thrill seeking
that he appears to have
achieved in this horrible day.
- [Narrator] In the police
interview, there was one moment
where Bryant dropped his guard.
He thought they'd stopped recording.
- [Martin Bryant] I'm sure
(mumble) the place a little bit.
Old schools.
Me.
- [Interviewer] I think I'm done.
That statement's a gold mine (mumble).
- (laughs) Should have
put that on recording.
- Oh, it's still recording
at this present stage,
so it is on recording.
(dramatic sad music)
- When Martin Bryant
first appeared here in the
Supreme Court of Tasmania,
he had long blonde hair.
Bizarrely, he pleaded not guilty.
- All right, you wanna see
these photos, look very closely.
- (mumble)
- Police had tried over a
period of months to convince
Bryant to tell the truth.
In July 1996, Bryant was even
shown images of the crime
scenes at Port Arthur.
- Here's the Broad Arrow Cafe.
You can see a couple
people more over there.
- [Narrator] He was shown
photographs of each of 35 victims.
Investigators hoped seeing
the horror he had caused might
elicit compassion,
even a confession.
- And you didn't know (mumble)
- [Narrator] It did none.
- See over there?
See over there?
- Was he scared about his situation?
- No.
- Was he enjoying it?
- Oh absolutely.
- [Martin Bryant] What about the..
What does it say about me?
- You know bloody well what it would say.
(mumble)
Let's see what they say.
- People were killed or
- What are the people
without the massacre?
- How many does it say?
Does it say how many people were killed?
- He was absolutely
interested in the fact that
he was not only was he the talk
of Hobart and Tasmania but,
at least for a short
time, national interest.
- And he enjoyed that, I gather.
- I think he revelled in it.
( Bryant laughing)
- [Interviewer] You convinced
the others there were
35 people dead.
- I know that you weren't
pressuring him but it was a big
thing in what you were trying
to do, was to get him to
plead guilty to all charges.
- It seemed to me from day
one that the evidence was
so overwhelming and the
outcome of a trial would have
been so obvious, that
I was trying to avoid
a show trail, a circus,
a pantomime, call it what you like.
Because that would've
been an absolute stupidity
but it also involved
having all these witnesses
damaged people, come to court and
have to give evidence where the outcome
was always inevitable.
- If I had told you what you've done
- [Martin Bryant] What have I done?
- You've killed 35 people.
- Oh, no. No.
- And injured several others.
- Bryant got to a stage early
on in my dealings with him
that he was going to plead
guilty to the murders.
But we had a uniquely
unusual situation
where he wanted to plead not guilty to
the attempted murders.
- Why?
I mean there's no legal
rationale for that.
- No, but the stupidity of
it was, I think that what
he wanted was the people who
he'd so
grievously maimed,
he wanted them to come to
court and say it was him.
He wants to be the centre of attention.
He wanted to be seen as powerful and evil.
Some of the early news
coverage, which portrayed
him as demonic, was
exactly what he wanted.
Delighted him.
(tense music)
- So, was he crazy?
- Nah.
Mad?
- No.
He's mad in the everyday sense
of the word, he did something
that none of us, almost none
of us can even get our heads
around imagining, let alone doing.
But no, he did not have
a serious mental illness.
He did not have schizophrenia.
He was of very low IQ, he was borderline
to subnormal.
His IQ was lower than over 98 percent
of the general population,
so he's a very dim man.
- [Narrator] Bryant was very
sensitive to suggestions
he had a low IQ, and Avery
realised he might be able to use
this sensitivity to encourage
him to plead guilty.
It was the killer's achilles heel.
- I said, "Mate, you're going
to be made to look stupid.
They'll say 'Simple
Martin', 'Simple fellow'.
This is a nonsense running this
type of trial where you just
want people to stand and point
to you and say 'Yes, this
is the man who shot at us."
You know, the next time I saw
him, he'd changed his mind.
He said, "I'll plead
guilty to everything."
- He also decided to write a confession.
Avery has kept it for all these years.
This is the first time
it has ever been shown.
So he wrote it this size?
- Absolutely.
- "I Martin Bryant wish to plead
guilty to all charges '72'.
I wish my lawyer to tell the
court that I want to change
my plea from not guilty to guilty."
- Yep, well there it is, dated and signed.
- Historic document.
Sad.
- Yep.
(intense music)
- The 72 charges were read
one by one, and he pleaded
guilty 72 times.
(drum bang)
- [Avery] Well, I held my
breath I've got to say,
'til every one of those
72 charges were read
and the plea entered.
- When he came back for
sentencing, he'd changed again.
His hair was cut short.
So was his freedom.
Forever.
Bryant was ordered to
serve 35 life sentences.
One thousand and thirty
five years without parole.
- What was the first thing he said to you
after sentence, John?
- He said he'd like to
have another can of Pepsi.
- Really?
- And did he, could he?
- Yeah and I shared it with him.
(solemn music)
Avery had finished his job
but now carried with him
an overwhelming burden.
He'd got too close to a mass murderer.
- I said to myself, "Am I his next victim?
Have I been drawn into his web?
Is he playing with my mind
while I'm trying to get
inside his?"
(clinking)
- I mean, I should be out.
I should be out.
If I could get out by
tomorrow, I'd probably have
the money.
- What do you reckon
you should be out for?
- Because it's not fair on me, is it?
I mean, I know I've done a
wrong thing but surely they
can try and say a few months a year,
for what I've done,
and work things out.
(dramatic music)
- So there's a constant
theme here of Bryant
wanting notoriety.
- Notoriety and,
ringmaster in the circus.
He wanted to be the fellow
who committed the worst
crime in Australia's history
and top of the class.
- [Narrator] By pleading
guilty to 72 charges, including
35 murders, Martin Bryant
accomplished his sick goal.
He even appeared to take pleasure in his
multiple life sentences.
- In his usual way he said
something probably quite
inappropriate, that he was
happy with the sentence.
But I think he meant it was appropriate.
- For John Avery,
defending Bryant had been
a punishing experience.
At five am, the day after
the sentencing, he sat alone
in his office, with the lights off
and recorded his thoughts.
- "I thought I could easily
walk away and get on with life,
but I think, perhaps I
have been touched by him
like his victims.
Why am I so caught up
in this whole matter?
Why can't I get him out of
my mind and why do I continue
to feel guilty that I
can't feel that I hate him?
Why do I feel sorry for him?
Has he made me famous or
am I really just basking in
his fame and nothing
more than his alter ego?
Why did I step away from the
question of whether I was
his friend and say I was his
lawyer when indeed I know
I have become his friend and
the loyal part is being little?
I'm crying and I don't know why.
How could a client do this to me?
How could someone rob me of myself?
Martin Bryant, I won't let you beat me.
I won't become your next victim."
Whew.
Yeah, that's how I felt.
And 20 years later, it's,
yeah it's probably still how I feel.
- You haven't shaken 'im off?
(tongue click)
- Let's hope I can after this.
(solemn music)
- [Narrator] Though he
makes no excuses now,
defending Bryant may have
well contributed to the
path John Avery took next.
He embezzled half a million
dollars from his law firm
to buy art, a passion
that became an addiction.
He served four years in jail
and was disbarred as a lawyer.
- I've come out the other end.
Been a struggle at times
but you get on with life.
You take the knocks and you move on.
- It's been very courageous
of you to be so honest.
- Oh, I don't think so.
I think as I said
those four years in jail,
at times I hated myself.
I'd been on a course of self-destruct.
I put my legal career in
jeopardy, I'd put my marriage
in jeopardy.
I'd totally fucked up.
Fortunately, I've got what's
best and I've still got it so
I don't think it's
courageous, it's probably just
at last wanting to do the right thing.
- Oddly, a day that goes
by when Avery doesn't
think about Bryant.
How bad it was and how much
worse it could've been.
Did he express any views about
wanting to kill more people?
- Yeah, regrettably he did, yeah.
On a few occasions.
- So not only no remorse, but
he wished he'd killed more.
- I don't think he understood
the concept of remorse.
I mean if I said to him as
I did a couple of occasions,
"Look, you really should
be sorry for what you did",
his response would be "Oh well,
I'm sorry then, aren't I?"
- And Bryant wasn't even
sorry about spending the rest
of his life behind bars.
So you're overall idea of
prison didn't deter him or
frighten him at all, he just
wanted to be with the big boys.
- I think he thought
he'd be lorded by them.
I mean, that was exactly the
opposite of what would have
happened in my view but,
he continued to protest
"No, they'll like me,
they'll all get on with me."
- Martin Bryant wanted to
die, but not as slowly and
as miserably
as this.
♪ Fade in ♪
♪ to you ♪
♪ Strange you never knew ♪
♪ Fade in ♪
♪ to you ♪
♪ I think it's strange you never knew ♪
♪ A stranger's light comes on slowly ♪
♪ A stranger's heart without a home ♪
♪ I think it's strange you never knew ♪
♪ I think it's strange ♪
♪ I think it's strange you never knew ♪
♪ Ooh ♪
♪ I think it's strange ♪
(piano note)
