

### Human Relationships

### The World's Definition Of Love

### By

### Jesus (AJ Miller)

### Session 3

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### This ebook is a transcript of a seminar delivered on 24th September 2011 in Brisbane, Australia by AJ Miller (who claims to be Jesus) as part of the Human Relationships series. In this seminar Jesus discusses the differences between the world's definition of love and God's definition of love, such as; love is logical, love never abuses, love results in change, love never compromises and love never lies. In this talk Jesus also describes the process of how to come to learn God's definition of love in our souls by releasing fear and other emotional errors.

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Table of Contents

### The World's Definition of Love: Session 3, Part 1

1. Introduction

2. The world mistakenly believes that it knows love

3. Fear-based and love-based beliefs

3.1. Fear within our souls allows fear-based beliefs to enter us

3.2. An example of having fear of authority

3.3. We project our fear-based beliefs onto other events in our lives

3.4. An example of AJ previously believing that God is a God of wrath

3.5. Releasing fear-based beliefs is necessary for the world to become loving

4. Love is logical

4.1. An example of turning the other cheek

4.2. An example of being self responsible

4.3. An example of retaliating for a child's death

4.4. Emotionally distancing ourselves from unloving acts in society

5. Love is not justice

6. Love is logical (continued)

6.1. Our view of logic can be distorted by fear-based beliefs

6.1.1. An example of how we arrange our kitchens

7. There is no fear in real love

7.1. The world erroneously believes that love placates fear

7.2. God's definition of love needs to enter our heart to change us

8. Love is logical (continued)

8.1. Logic and truth are strongly connected

8.2. Logic and economy are strongly connected

8.3. An illustration of logic and love in relationships

8.4. Truth, justice and judgement

8.4.1. An example of AJ wearing glasses

9. Love never abuses

9.1. Love of ourselves does not allow abuse

9.2. False beliefs that abuse is acceptable enter us as children

9.3. An illustration of different terms used for physical abuse of children and adults

10. Love always results in change or growth

11. Fear originates from the fear of our own emotions

11.1. An example of terrorism and violence

11.2. An example of immigration

12. Fear is not real from God's perspective

12.1. An example of the fear of violence and death

12.2. An example of drug use

12.2.1. Altering our body with drugs prevents us from absorbing truth and love

12.3. Differences between urgency based on fear and urgency based on love

12.3.1. An example of children dying of malnutrition

13. Love is never jealous

13.1. An example of discovering our partner is unfaithful to us

### The World's Definition of Love: Session 3, Part 2

14. Love is never compromise

14.1. Emotionally compromising is not being truthful about how we really feel

14.2. Our internal and external dialogue are identical when we no longer compromise

14.3. Relationships can never be close when we compromise our true feelings, desires and passions

14.4. Negotiation is all about compromise

14.4.1. An example of border control

14.4.2. An example of refugees

14.4.3. Love automatically wants to repair unloving problems

14.4.4. An example of food production

14.4.5. An example of weapon manufacture

14.4.6. An example of the economy

14.4.7. An example of refugees and border control (continued)

14.4.8. An example of fences

15. Love never lies

16. Receiving God's definition of love into our souls

16.1. Receiving God's Love opens our soul up to love-based beliefs entering

16.2. Discovering true spirituality

17. The power of love

18. Closing Words

Appendix: Seminar Outline

The World's Definition of Love: Session 3, Part 1

1. Introduction

Today's session is a continuance of sessions we've been running recently about Human Relationships, where we've been comparing the World's Definition of Love with God's Definition of Love. We began with a discussion in Melbourne a few months ago on the World's Definition of Love and a fortnight ago we did session number two of the World's Definition of Love. Today is the third in a series of four about the World's Definition of Love. So it's not the final session of this group of material.

2. The world mistakenly believes that it knows love

Now the reason why we've been focussing on the World's Definition of Love is because most of the time the world believes it knows what love is and it believes it knows what love does and it believes it knows what love feels like. And by the world I mean everybody in the world, generally. [00:03:31.14]

Now logically if that was true, the world should be a completely loving place and there should be no wars, only peace, no human suffering, only kindness, compassion, understanding and everything else related to love. So while we believe we know what love is, what love does and what love feels like, it's obviously the case that we mustn't know because if we did know completely what it was then the whole world would be cured of all of the ills that are unloving.

So from a logical perspective, although the world believes that to be true, it can't be true. There has to be something else going on because if it were true the world would be a very, very different place. If this were actually true, we'd be experiencing love on a day-to-day basis in the world we'd be living in, none of us would be ever stressed out in our lives, none of us would have any fear in our lives at all. None of us would have a worry about safety, security, none of us would be concerned about war, none of us would be concerned about not having enough to eat, not having enough to drink, not having enough to wear, not knowing where you're going to live, and none of those things would be a problem because all of them would automatically be sorted out because all of us are automatically loving and so therefore nobody would ever miss out. [00:05:03.08]

There wouldn't be millions and millions of children dying every year from starvation and malnutrition if that was true, if we all knew what love is. There wouldn't be any religious turmoil, there wouldn't be any attacks or fights between different religious groups because all of them would know what love is and what love does and so therefore there wouldn't be any fighting between them. Logically you can see that if this were true the results would be very different to the results we have.

Now if the results we have are very different, in other words the results we have are very different, there are fifty million or so children dying every year from malnutrition, that's the reality. There are wars on the planet all the time, in fact some wars are bigger in terms of the amount of ordinance dropped on people, than the Second World War and that still happens today.

There is a lack of peace and security for the majority of people on the planet. When you analyse security from the perspective of having everything you need to eat, drink, clothing, shelter and so forth, even if you just treat those basic human necessities, there is a good one third of this planet that doesn't get those basic human necessities for life and forever. How could they ever then have an enjoyable life? It's not possible.

So the fact that we believe we know what love does and we believe we know what love is and we believe we know what love feels like; we have to, as a human race, start taking responsibility for the fact that we mustn't know what love does and we mustn't know what love is and we mustn't know what love feels like yet because if we did, as a human race, there would be no problems on the planet at all. We could all have differing opinions and we would all live together in peace and harmony. So we might be of a different religious faith, some might be Muslim, some might be Christian, some might be Hindu, some might be Buddhist, some might be atheist, some might be agnostic but they'd all get along in love if we knew what love is. [00:07:26.19]

And it's the same with our politics. There might be communists, socialists, democrats, republicans and so forth, all these different political parties, and they would all get along in love as well. And then we would also notice things like in a school yard, for example, all the children would get along in love and then in society as a whole all of us would get along in love if we knew what love is and what love does.

So it should be obvious to us from that analogy that we don't really know what love is and we don't really know what love does and we don't really know what love feels like because as a human race if we did, things would be very, very different on the planet than they currently are. And this is whether you put God into the equation or not; this is immaterial whether God exists or does not exist with this particular discussion in the sense that if we knew what love is we would all get along, even if some of us believed in God and some of us didn't. That's the reality too, if we understood what love was and this is why the discussion about love is so important.

3. Fear-based and love-based beliefs

3.1. Fear within our souls allows fear-based beliefs to enter us

Now remember in our last discussion the world's definition of love entered us through a process. The process was this; because of the amount of fear the world is in as a whole, most of us individually are also carrying a lot of fear as a result. Now because we're carrying a lot of fear as a result, our soul becomes open to beliefs that are fear-based, through what you can think of as vortexes in our soul.

Fear creates openings in our soul through which fear-based beliefs can enter

This fear in the soul starts entering us the moment we become attached to a human body from our environment. The world environment is in a lot of fear and our own parents generally are in a lot of fear; most of them are even in a lot of fear about having a child. You remember the very first child you had? How did that feel? For most of us it was a pretty unique situation, and we often have quite a lot of fear as a result. And it's this fear that's in us enters the child and thereby makes this child open to fear-based belief systems that come from the world or the environment in which it lives.

3.2. An example of having fear of authority

So, for example if we have one fear-based belief system, such as a fear of authority, then our fear-based belief system is that we've got to be concerned about authority, we worry about authority and how much we might get attacked by authority. And we then start applying that to the idea of a God; we will start feeling that God's like an authority on Earth where you'll get punished if you do the wrong thing and you get rewarded if you do the right thing; the carrot and the stick principle is what's normally going on for us. And so we start applying the fear-based beliefs to our relationship with God, but in particular to our human relationships; we start applying fear-based beliefs into our relationships with everyone around us.

And so then, because there's this fear in the soul, it only feels right when somebody presents us a fear-based belief. If somebody presents to us a love-based belief, we then think it's wrong and we automatically start to have a tendency of rejecting it because it's not resonant with what our internal feelings are, and that is: "No, no that's not true."

3.3. We project our fear-based beliefs onto other events in our lives

So if somebody said to us that we could go across to a war front and walk down in front of everybody shooting each other and we'd be fine, most of us would go, "Yeah I don't think so mate, that's definitely not the case. Sooner or later you're going to get caught in that." Most of us would have that feeling. And so most of us then would have a level of fear being placed in that situation, a situation where we could be potentially harmed or even killed and we have a level of fear that's based on that particular situation. [00:13:01.28]

Now that level of fear means that when I examine that situation, I am going to examine that situation through my fear, and unfortunately then apply that same fear-based examination to other situations in my life. So while for many of us the original time that fear entered us was a valid event, what we finish up doing is we start applying that fear to other events that are not as valid. Does everyone understand what I'm saying about that?

So for example, if my father left me as a child and left me alone with my mum and my siblings and I never had a father the rest of my life; if I hold onto that feeling inside of me without having a change, then what will finish up happening is if I'm a woman I'll attract men into my life but then I'll be afraid that they'll leave. I am now applying the fact that my father left when I was a child to a new situation, to a relationship. And this is where human relationships are often distorted because of all of the unhealed baggage that we carry around inside of us that then motivates us to apply the same baggage to a new situation.

Unfortunately, some of these fear-based beliefs are personal, in other words related to our childhood in particular, and some of which I would call environmental, in other words related to the environment in which we live. These fear-based beliefs have now entered us and they now start dictating to us our life. They now start manipulating the way in which we act and think and feel in our life because we haven't yet released them from our soul. And these personal belief systems relating usually to my childhood, the environmental belief systems relating to how I was brought up in the environment, what happened at school and so forth, make us open then to other fear-based belief systems entering our soul, so we become firmly convinced that certain things that are not true from God's perspective are actually true from our perspective. [00:15:44.13]

Fear-based beliefs enter us as children that we then project onto other events in our lives

3.4. An example of AJ previously believing that God is a God of wrath

To give you an example in my own life, if you had seen me around fifteen years ago, I was completely convinced at that time that God was a God of wrath. In fact I've spoken to audiences of more than five thousand people in that conviction. Now today I am completely convinced about the opposite of that. So what made me completely convinced about that being true? Well what made me completely convinced is the fear-based belief systems of the world being absorbed in my soul and that then allowed me to accept this other fear-based belief system that God is a God of wrath, a God of punishment who will punish the wicked and reward the righteous. But I worked through these fear-based belief systems.

The way it happened for me was that I went through a period in my life where everyone in my life didn't want to see me anymore but the funny thing about it is I still wanted to see them. I thought about that for a bit in terms of how that applied to God. Even my own sons didn't want to see me anymore for about a year and a half and I applied that to my own relationship with God, and felt that no matter what those other people do and no matter that they don't want to see me or not, I still wanted to see them, I still wanted to have a relationship with them. I didn't feel resentful of them, I didn't feel vindictive towards them, even though many of them were attacking me at the time. And so then I started to realise if that's how I am, then God must surely be better than that. God must be a better person or better being than I am. So if that's the case then surely God must have this feeling even if everyone on Earth doesn't want to worship God, and doesn't want to know anything about God, God must still have a feeling that He wants to know them. If that's how I am, then surely God's better.

And then I started working through the emotional reasons as to why I had come to accept this fear-based belief that God was a God of wrath, and there were quite a lot of emotions I had to let go of. One emotion was my own personal fear of torture and harm. I had to get rid of that, I had to release that and that took a lot of shaking and crying and going through an emotional process. And once I came out of the end of that, I no longer felt any more that God was a God of wrath. In fact I feel completely the opposite than I did fifteen years ago on that one subject. [00:18:31.15]

3.5. Releasing fear-based beliefs is necessary for the world to become loving

Now that being the case, that tells us that it's possible to release fear-based systems and confront them and it's also possible to actually absorb new belief systems but only when inside of our soul, inside of our emotions, inside of our feelings and inside of our thoughts, the sum total of who we are inside of our soul there must be a way to get rid of our susceptibility to fear-based belief systems and instead absorb love-based belief systems.

The reality for the whole of the human race is that unless we do this we cannot become loving. Unless we, as a human race, absorb love-based belief systems into our feelings and start rejecting fear-based belief systems in our own feelings, unless that transformation occurs, it's not going to be possible for us as humans to become more loving; to make the next step or the next leap in evolution if you like, which is instead of being warrior-like becoming peaceful, having the ability to live together in harmony, in peace and joy and love without there being constant strife, constant political, physical, war-based, national strife but also religious and other types of strife. All of those kinds of strife would all disappear.

That doesn't mean that we wouldn't be able to have a good debate with somebody about something that we disagree on, but we just wouldn't be angry about it anymore because we know how to love now. So we could discuss our differences in opinion without being upset and without feeling attacking and without resorting to personal libel and without resorting to persecution.

If you look at what mankind has done historically, mankind has even resorted to torture and abuse in order to perpetrate a different belief system. If you look at many of the religious crusades in the past, for example throughout the Dark Ages, the whole purpose was to put upon a whole group of people, a nation, a new belief system. And if they didn't accept it voluntarily, how did they have to accept it? Through violence, and that's what we've done in the past. [00:21:04.17]

Now if we loved, I'm putting to you that would never occur. It could never occur if we have learned how to love; that would never happen. You and I could have a completely different belief system and we'd be perfectly happy with each other about it. We'd even be able to still provide food for each other, we'd be able to provide shelter for each other, give each other drink if we need a drink, we'd be able to help each other build out houses even though I might be an atheist and you might be in the Pentecostal religion, and somebody else might be a Muslim and somebody else might be a Hindu; we'd all be able to cooperate together and that cooperation comes about because we've all learned how to love.

So it is very important for us to understand the problems with the world's definition of love in comparison to what love really must be because the world's definition of love has given us the world we currently have, so that tells me our definition of love needs to change; either individually initially and collectively. Once our definition of love changes and it becomes more loving, the result will be the world's definition also changing to become more loving. So we would actually finish up with a more loving environment if our own definition of love were more loving and the world's definition of love were more loving.

So what we want to do today, and what we've been doing in some of these sessions, is we've been talking about some of the world's definitions of love and then comparing it with what must be the truth about love. We're trying to apply some logic to the whole process as well but also apply some of our feelings to the entire process.

Now for those of you who haven't seen this particular series of presentations before, in the previous two series we've mentioned a whole number of definitions of love that the world has and then what we've done is we've compared that definition of love to what must be God's definition of love, or at least the definition of love we need to accept if everything's going to change. And so what I want to do is continue that today, presenting some new ideas about love, and compare what the world thinks about it to what I believe God's Truth is about love, and also what I believe will happen if we accept God's Truth about love in terms of the transformational affects that will occur on the Earth as a result.

4. Love is logical

So let's start with the world's definition of love that love is whimsical and illogical. In other words when you're in love you do crazy things that make no logical sense, that's the world's definition of love. How many songs are there about that one? Quite a number. I must disagree completely with that. My feelings are in fact the opposite and that is that love is completely logical at all times. Love always makes logical sense.

4.1. An example of turning the other cheek

Now let me give you some examples. One I wanted to give you is from the Bible actually. You have heard that it was said an eye for eye, a tooth for tooth? Now Ghandi made some comments about that. He said, "An eye for eye leaves the whole world blind," because in the end we're going to sin against another person at some point. Jesus' words are, "But I tell you do not resist an evil person, if someone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other cheek also." Now I did actually say that. So that's a very different viewpoint isn't it? [00:26:13.06]

Now some would say that that viewpoint's whimsical but it's not - it's actually logical. When you think about it, if you hit me and then I decided that's pretty bad so I'm going to hit you back, now both of us are hurt. And then you decide your hurt now wasn't justified so you get out your knife and you try to stab me, so I get out my bazooka and try to blow you away. You can see how things happen on the Earth and it just escalates and escalates until we now have war. That's how things happen.

Now the logical thing to do is to never start that cycle. That would be the logical thing. That would make logical sense. If somebody harms me, for me not to harm them back would be a logical choice because if I harm them back, there is a higher likelihood of them deciding now that they can harm me again and harm me in a more opposing manner.

Now it's also logical from the point of view of what I believe. Now if I believe there is an afterlife, then I'm not going to be tied up in this, "I've got to defend myself," feeling, "This life is all there is." If I believe that there is some kind of life after death then I won't be worried about having to die in this life just because somebody attacked me and I don't want to attack them back.

So I put to you love is logical with this particular desire, and that is if I treat every person how I would like to be treated and not actually how they treat me that would make much more sense. Now many of you have heard that before because that's called the Golden Rule in the Bible. In other words that we treat others how we would like to be treated and not how they actually treat us. [00:28:14.04]

During the week Mary and I were attacked quite viciously by the media. So we have hundreds of emails coming to us from people who want to kill us and rape Mary and do all these other things because of what the media presented. Now if I went then and did exactly the same as what they are doing, all I'm doing then is not logical, it's not a logical process to then attack them in return. Because if I attacked them in return there's a higher likelihood of course now that they'll attack me in return and also when you think about it, love does not attack and if love does not attack, then if I'm attacking even as a form of defence, I'm out of harmony with love.

4.2. An example of being self responsible

To me love is completely logical in all situations and circumstances. It's even logical with regard to things like self responsibility. You see if I love it makes logical sense that if I love myself that I'd want to look after myself. That makes logical sense to me. If I don't love myself, then I'll start getting invested in other people looking after me, and to me that doesn't make much logical sense because all of us have the ability generally if we are fairly sound in health to be able to look after ourselves.

Now it also makes logical sense for me to help the people who aren't sound in health to look after themselves. That also makes complete logical sense. It doesn't matter whether they are of a different nationality, they have a different colour than I have, they have a different belief system that I have, even if they're angry with me I don't see how that makes any difference. It still makes logical sense to actually care for them as much as we're able. [00:30:11.26]

4.3. An example of retaliating for a child's death

Love is logical but the world's view of love is often very illogical. So the world's view of love is this. If somebody comes along and murders your son then the best thing to do is to murder his son. That's the general viewpoint of the world. In other words an eye for an eye, a tooth for tooth, a life for a life. My son's life for your son's life, my daughter's life for your daughter's life. That's how we view it in the world generally.

Now I put to you that that's not love even if it's considered to be love. Many of these parents who lose a child in a war-based situation and then feel justified in going and attacking another child in another situation would say to you, "It's because of the love of my daughter or son that I'm doing this," and I put to you that's not the case at all because the logical thing to do wouldn't be to exacerbate the problem by going and killing somebody else. That's not the logical thing to do. The logical thing to do is to forgive the person. That would be the logical thing to do because in the end we'll end up with no sons and daughters if all of us finish up going to kill others who harm us and so forth, and we'll end up with this terrible situation. [00:31:49.16]

4.4. Emotionally distancing ourselves from unloving acts in society

Participant: I just realised that as a society we've constructed this whole legal system to carry that out for us so there's an expectation that we want them to do it for us and that makes us okay.

That's correct; we distance ourselves in society from the actual personal act. We've done this with food even - with animals and being unloving towards animals. To distance ourselves from the fact that we're being unloving towards animals, what we've done is we go and get the animals killed by an abattoir and then we get a butcher to cut it all up for us and then we get it in a nice neat package that looks nothing like the original animal that was cut up and now we are emotionally distant from the act, and we do this with government laws as well.

We are trying constantly to emotionally distance ourselves from the underlying act. So this is where you see, for example in the USA in many states, there is still capital punishment where the death penalty applies. Now that is done because of the rage of the individuals who are the victims of violence not being released, which means their sadness hasn't been released. So what they now do is they expect the government to take the reactionary state, which is to kill the person who killed my son, daughter, wife, husband and so forth, and as a result of that we have capital punishment being enacted by the government rather than by the individual. [00:33:24.27]

Mary and I watched an interesting movie last night, which was all based on this premise of justice that was called "Law Abiding Citizen". Have any of you seen that? It's a fairly violent movie. It was about a man who didn't get justice and then the lengths that he went to in order to get justice for his family. The length he was going to, to get that justice was pretty intense at the end.

And what we try to do is distance ourselves from the actual physical act and we create often a society that helps us to distance ourselves from the act. For example armies are about distancing ourselves from the act of violence. So we have certain people who are trained to go to war, but we're not all trained to go to war; we want certain people to go to war for us, and that's about distancing ourselves from the actual act of violence. If we felt the act of violence, it's highly unlikely any of us would like to go to war, and if you talk to soldiers who have been to war, most soldiers feel totally shocked and feel quite strongly that war needs to be avoided at all costs. But the average human population doesn't believe that because we've all been distanced emotionally from the process. [00:34:50.27]

5. Love is not justice

Mary: I was just feeling with love is logical issue that you're now talking about love is justice, which is another thing that we spoke about in the past.

Yeah, to me justice is not logical.

Mary: Yes sorry I was talking about the world's definition.

Yeah the world's definition that we've discussed before was that love is justice but God's definition is that love is not justice because there are many times God forgives us for things.

6. Love is logical (continued)

6.1. Our view of logic can be distorted by fear-based beliefs

Mary: I was just reflecting on how you were talking about how fear-based beliefs enter us because there's fear within us, and I feel that's because they don't challenge the fear within us, the fear-based beliefs are resonant.

That's correct.

Mary: So when a love-based belief comes along it challenges the fear and usually triggers our fear, which is why we resist it so strongly.

Very true.

Mary: I was just reflecting on the issue of logic and it seems that the world has a fear-based definition of what logic is, and that's tricky when you're talking about this subject because often when we have a love-based understanding of what's logical it's challenging the fear-based definition inside of everyone.

Yes.

6.1.1. An example of how we arrange our kitchens

We can even put it down to what happens in your kitchen. If you can look at your own actions in your day-to-day life it becomes very interesting because often we believe certain steps are logical but the reality is they are just fear-based decisions because we're afraid of challenging our mother or father's own way of doing things. If you have a look at your kitchens you might find this; we often set up our kitchen the way our mother would have set up the kitchen rather than in the most logical fashion because we've often got an emotion in play that we think it's logical but once we start analysing it, it's not that logical. [00:37:07.17]

For example, if we live in Queensland and particularly the further north we go, the hotter things are all through the year; it's pretty much warm through the year. The logical thing would be to put our stove outside, wouldn't it? That would be the logical thing for most people who live in Queensland. I wonder how many houses there are in Queensland that have the stove outside? There'd be some but I don't think there'd be that many. Just even basic things like that.

Now I'd say love of myself would mean that I wouldn't want to be working in a kitchen that's generating all this heat and I'm just sweating and having to put on an air-conditioner or a fan or whatever in order just to stay cool while I'm cooking a meal, when the reality is it could be just sitting outside and I could be cooking quite comfortably out there without having all this heat being dissipated in my home. That's just a logical thing but it's also loving. Can you see how it's loving to yourself to not put yourself in a position that creates more discomfort? That's loving, not just logical. [00:38:17.04]

Mary: Yeah and that's what I have learnt about love is that the way God created everything is very logical. There's a process for everything and it's quite scientific, even our own body, but I feel like there is this commonly held belief in society that while when you're in love you just do crazy things and it doesn't make any sense. And I feel our fear-based beliefs, rather than loving beliefs, are affecting the way we judge what's logical and what's not. I don't know if I'm being very clear, but I had a question when I started.

What was the question then, babe? Do you want to be up here with me again or sit there?

Mary: No (laughs).

7. There is no fear in real love

7.1. The world erroneously believes that love placates fear

Mary: My question was about is it fair to say that every fear-based belief that enters us and every belief that enters us about love when we're in a state of fear, is actually something that is placating our fear?

Yes, always.

Mary: So we believe love is always going to be placating our fear because we're resistive to it. So this is what creates the world's definition of love, it's all avoidance of fear.

Yes. And that's one of the things we'll go through later how the world's definition of love is that love will placate my fear, "love will make me comfortable", and God's view of love is very different to that.

Mary: And it seems to me that all of the other definitions that we've had before are all actually related to fear anyway.

And all these are too.

Mary: That's what I mean.

Yeah. So and this is something we need to bear in mind - the world's definition of love isn't really love, it's just fear masked as love. Fear with a mask on it is what it is in most cases, whereas God's definition of love, or the real love that we need to obtain whether we're involved with God or not, is very fearless. There is no fear involved in the real definition of love, none at all, and we need to see this kind of definition.

7.2. God's definition of love needs to enter our heart to change us

One of the things myself and Mary often speak about is that this new definition of love needs to enter our heart; it can't be just something we think about, it has to motivate our lives somehow, it's got to change us somehow. Because if it's just something we think about, when we get into a tough situation we'll change our mind but if it's something that's a part of our system, something that's right inside of us, no matter how tough the situation, we will still do the loving thing. We will still act in the loving way and it won't be something that changes our mind. We'll move onto that in a minute.

8. Love is logical (continued)

So this love is logical aspect is something that I feel many of us need to consider more. Can I put too many of you ladies that you often criticise the logic of your husbands or partners, and yet logic is an aspect of love. And when they're trying to present logic they're actually in a more love-based thinking than you are with fear. You see remember I've said too many of you how fear dominates many women's lives and grief dominates many men's lives? In other words most men are afraid of grief, most women are afraid of fear. Most women cry quite easily, they're not afraid of grieving so much but they're very afraid of their fears, and they get into this very locked up state. [00:42:08.00]

8.1. Logic and truth are strongly connected

Now logic is connected very strongly to truth; logic and truth are often very strongly connected. This is something we need to understand. What is Razor's theorem? Does anyone know what Razor's theorem is? Come on Luli you know what Razor's theorem is? Surely you do, it's scientific. No you don't? Have any of you heard of it? No, okay. It's a very basic premise that the simplest explanation is probably the truth and the most logical explanation is the truth. Logic and truth are very connected with each other, and we need to understand this. The most logical thing and the simplest explanation can often be the truth.

You know you've got this guy standing in front of you calling himself Jesus, he puts up with a lot of crap about it. A logical explanation might be that it's the truth. That would be simple. Now often we go into complexities, we go, "Ah, no, no surely he's crazy," or he's this or he's that or he's nuts or he's a liar or whatever else, and we want to justify all the alternatives. But sometimes the most logical, the simplest thing is the truth.

Now this is in particular the case with our day-to-day life. Often the simplest explanation is the most logical and the most logical explanation is the most loving. That's often the case.

8.2. Logic and economy are strongly connected

Also tied in with this idea of logic is economy; it is logical and loving to practise economy. Now many of you practise economy because of fear of finances. Now that's a different thing, that's not loving, but economy in its pure sense is loving. Everything God does is economical and therefore logical, and because it's logical it's also loving.

8.3. An illustration of logic and love in relationships

Now in regards to human relationships, which is our primary thing we're looking at here, can you see if I criticise the logic of another person rather than examining the logic of what they're presenting, can you see that automatically prevents me from becoming more loving? Now if you think about it in relationship between say a man and a woman - a partnership or a husband and wife relationship - if the wife is criticising the husband's logic and she's saying, "Ah, you're just being logical," as if that's a problem, then there is an aspect of love involved there where the wife doesn't understand that love is logical. [00:45:11.01]

Now if the husband, as we've already covered in the previous talk, criticises the wife for being emotional, then there is also no love there because, as we've talked about in a previous talk about love, love is always emotional because love is a feeling. It's not a thought, it's a feeling, and if love is always emotional then how can we criticise the person who's being emotional? Now it depends what emotion they're displaying of course; if it's a loving-based emotion or whether it's abuse or rage, which I would say is not the real emotion that needs to be displayed anyway.

So can we see how love is definitely logical but the world's definition of love is that love is crazy, illogical, it doesn't make any sense, you go and do crazy things all the time. The reality is that actually if we're really in a state of love, we will probably never do something crazy, ever. Now that doesn't mean that the world wouldn't think it's crazy because the world's definition of love is different, but from God's perspective or from the truth's perspective, if we do things out of harmony with logic then there's also a connection there with doing things out of harmony with love.

Participant: I'm just trying to put what you said together with what Mary said. So if the man says something that's logical and it's probably the truth, but for the woman it's going to trigger her fear so that's not going to make her feel good and therefore she's going to reject it. Is that right?

Exactly. She will definitely reject him and get angry with him. He's not looking after her anymore and he's not providing security anymore and he's not making her feel safe anymore.

Participant: Because love should make her feel good, is that right?

Well that's her feeling but remember we've also covered that. Love doesn't always make you feel good. That's again a false belief because love will always confront a fear and when we're confronting fears we don't always feel good, that's the reality. So love doesn't always make us feel good but love will in the end make us feel good once we've released the fear. In the end we'll feel good but in the interim they'll be some changes required. [00:47:56.28]

8.4. Truth, justice and judgement

Participant: In regards to the love is not logical, if you deliver a truth in an unloving way then obviously it's not really a truth. However would delivering a truth be justice?

Well your first comment, the truth is always the truth no matter how it's delivered. However, if it's delivered lovingly it will have a far more powerful effect than if it was delivered in any other way. So I would argue that if somebody is telling you the truth no matter how they're telling you, whether they're angry or upset with you or in a rage with you, or they're nice and calm and peaceful and relaxed, either way you should listen to it for your own benefit because it's the truth. But love itself would probably dictate delivering the truth in a calm and peaceful manner certainly.

Now your second part of the question was?

Participant: Is truth justice?

I don't feel so, no. If I can give you an illustration. It is just for me to state the truth about your childhood but to state the truth about your childhood I would have to know the complete truth myself about your childhood, which means I'd have to know the motivations of your mother, the motivations of your father, their underlying emotional injuries and what caused them to take the actions that they took and so forth. So while it's just for me to state the truth, maybe one of the truths is, "Elaine you were not loved when you were little", that might be a truth, and it's "just" for me to state that truth. It's also loving for me to state that truth. It's not loving for me to judge it - there's a big difference there. Now most of the time when we get involved with stating truth, we are already in a state of judgement.

8.4.1. An example of AJ wearing glasses

So, for example, I get asked lots of questions about how I can state that I'm Jesus. Now they're not normally asked as questions. The direct question is not normally asked, "How can you believe you're Jesus when you're still wearing glasses?" The statement is often made, "He's still wearing glasses, he can't be Jesus," and it's also a judgement and it betrays no knowledge as well. Whereas the question is, "How can you be wearing glasses and say that your Jesus?" that's a valid question is it not? [00:50:53.20]

I would ask how can you be Elaine and still be wearing glasses? Wouldn't that also be a valid question? If you're asking Jesus the question then surely me asking, "How can you be Elaine and still be wearing glasses?" is also a valid question. It's not a very logical question perhaps but (laughter) Elaine does wear glasses. So obviously there's a hidden judgement in the question and the judgement is Jesus would not be wearing glasses. They've already made up their minds and so it's not a question it's now a statement and it's also a judgement and therefore unloving. Now people think that it makes logical sense that Jesus should not be wearing glasses and I can certainly understand that particular train of logic but it doesn't take into account all the factors and one of those factors might be that Jesus chose to actually go through certain things. You know there are all those other factors.

So can you see that often we ask questions or make statements of truth from a point of what we believe is truth without really having a completely open mind about the subject at all? That's generally the case. And we do that because we have fear. So what is a fear of a person asking Jesus why he's still wearing glasses? You could list quite a lot of fears. If Jesus is wearing glasses then he's just a man, but I believe Jesus is God so therefore my belief is going to be confronted if I see that Jesus is just a man. So it's better for me to assume that Jesus is not a man and therefore must be perfect in his body at this point in time rather than be imperfect in any way. And all of a sudden now we have emotions that are illogical getting involved in the analysis of the question. And now what's happening is my previous belief systems, whatever they are, are now tailoring and colouring my investigation of truth.

This is where we go wrong as a human race. We colour everything based on previous belief systems that have yet to be established, and that are only beliefs that are yet to even be proven to be logical in many cases. And this is something we need to stop doing as a human race and start being far more open to everybody's beliefs and questions.

Now if I have judgement about you, I will often ask a question but really it's not a question, it's a statement of my judgement, and that is an unloving thing that I would do. It's also quite harmful to my future development because I'm already coming from the point of view that I already know and if I'm coming from the point of view that I already know, then I've already made up my mind and it's pointless asking the question. I'd be better off saying, "I've already made up my mind; this is what I feel. See you later." And if I were loving, I would do that without trying to pester the other person, I'd say, "Sorry, don't believe you, that's okay, no worries. Do you want to have a cuppa?" In other words we would still be able to be loving to the individual that you disagree with.

9. Love never abuses

Let's look at another one. The world's view of love is that love allows abuse. We see this happening over and over again with many of our friends, where their families are saying to them things to them like, "I love you so I have the right to yell at you." But yelling at you is abusive, so they don't have the right to yell at you if they love you. In fact if they loved you they would not yell at you, that's the truth.

God's view of love is that love never abuses. It never abuses power, it never abuses position, it never abuses responsibility, it never abuses an individual with rage or anger or any of these other types of emotions that feel bad to be received. Love doesn't do that. Love never abuses another person and therefore love would never or rarely accept abuse.

Now I'm not saying that you might choose to accept abuse knowing that it's abuse. So in other words if somebody hits me, I'm not going to hit them back. I might decide to do what I suggested in the first century, which was to turn the other cheek; in other words if they're going to hit me again then I'll allow that to happen as well. But you wouldn't continually place yourself in a situation where you're going to get abused over and over and over and over again. [00:56:22.08]

Now many of us in human relationships have this viewpoint that love does allow abuse, and that's the problem. This is where you get the battered wives syndrome from. The guy who's hitting her is saying, "I love you. I'm jealous - that's why I love you." He's hitting her saying, "Don't you look at that man and don't you do this with this man," and so forth, and he's doing that thinking he's being loving, but he's actually jealous and therefore not loving. He is abusing and therefore not loving.

Love never abuses - that's the reality. So if a person is choosing to abuse, then they are in that moment not being loving. It's quite simple.

9.1. Love of ourselves does not allow abuse

And if we're choosing to continually allow abuse to be perpetrated upon us without removing ourselves from the situation if that's possible, then we are not being loving to ourselves either. Love would never do that. [00:57:37.01]

Participant: My question relates to God's Law of Attraction. If you're in an abusive situation that is not a long-term thing, you just let it hit you and hit you, and just to let yourself feel that.

One reason why we are in abusive situations is because we allow abuse. So one of the things we need to deal with emotionally is why am I allowing this abuse? What belief inside of me that is not loving that causes me to think that I deserve this abuse? Because the truth is that if I loved myself I would not believe that I deserve the abuse from others.

Now for many of us we're in this situation because we've yet to learn that. We think there are certain times where abuse is acceptable. For instance if abuse comes from my dad then it's acceptable because he's maybe abused me a lot of my life, maybe violently physically towards me or something like that, and then I start to believe that any time dad yells at me that's acceptable. In other words I'm now stating, through an injury that I have emotionally, that abuse is really love and that I should put up with that abuse. [00:59:06.10]

Many of your families have this viewpoint that families are allowed to yell at you. Other people aren't allowed to, but "We are because we're your family". Now I put to you if you're the family then there should be less abuse coming from the family - not more. That would be the most loving state.

So oftentimes the Law of Attraction, which is a law that God's created to help expose an emotion inside of us that's out of harmony with love, is bringing abuse to us to demonstrate to us that we have injury inside of ourselves where we do allow abuse; we have a belief system that is allowing of other people abusing us. In other words we feel like we deserve it without us correcting it. My suggestion is that if abuse has been a part of your life in the past or currently, the best thing we can do is to firstly deal with the issue of why we allow it, and I don't mean that you fight back against it, I mean why don't you leave the situation rather than stay in the situation and continually allow it to happen. We've got to look at the emotional reason why we do that.

Now for some people it's because they feel safe in the relationship financially and so they stay allowing abuse to occur. For some people it's because they feel good about their relationship sexually and so then they allow the abuse to occur in ways other than sexually, and we need to look at our tradeoffs that we have on this matter. [01:00:47.20]

Love would never allow abuse is the truth, in the sense that we may get abused due to the Law of Attraction bringing us an event that causes our own personal abuse, but we would never continually place ourselves in the situation of getting abused over and over again without there being a major problem with our own personal definition of love.

9.2. False beliefs that abuse is acceptable enter us as children

Participant: It's interesting because we were having a conversation coming in the car today about abuse from parents, and I was just sitting there reflecting on being tiny and having the realisation that you had no choice but to find a way to stay in that relationship and bury the abuse.

Yes, and this is the problem that we face as children - if we receive any kind of abuse as a child, whether that be sexual or physical in nature or emotional in nature, we are going to begin to accept that kind of treatment from other people automatically, and one of the reasons why is because we were taught as a child that we couldn't get out of the situation. And unfortunately for many of us when we get abused as adults, we have this belief system that we can't get out of the situation, because it comes from our childhood, when the reality is we are now adults and we live in a relatively safe society and generally we can get out of the situation. But we just don't have that belief system inside of us because the fear-based belief system which was perpetrated against us as a young child has now entered us and it now becomes part of our belief system. [01:02:34.25]

Participant: We set up a whole lot of really complex shutters. In fact I know that's a really deep problem with my emotional processing, the complete setting of the shutters is so enormous.

Yes one of those main shutters that we've set up is the belief that "my mother or father smacked me but that wasn't abuse". That's a major shutter that we shut off. So remember our soul has got this opening if you like towards a heap of false beliefs, one of those false beliefs is that abuse is acceptable where we will allow it, we will allow the abuse to occur.

If we were abused as children we have a false belief that abuse is acceptable in our soul that allows further abuse

Once that belief enters our soul now, we are walking around and our emotion is actually being projected out to everyone in the world saying, "You can abuse me, you can abuse me and I'll accept it." That's what we're really saying at a soul level. It doesn't matter what you act like because many times we get angry when somebody abuses us, but our soul at the same time is saying, "No you can do it, you're allowed to," because we need to release the belief that entered us as a child. In other words it comes from the belief that it's okay for mummy to smack me, I will stay in the relationship, it's okay for daddy to smack me, I will stay in the relationship, and those underlying belief systems have to leave us before the new belief, which is love is never abusive, will actually enter us.

So this is where we're now confronting our family. We're now confronting our family's acceptance of a belief system. Many families have this belief that it's okay to yell at your children, and pretty much all of us have done it at some point, so we all think it's okay otherwise we wouldn't have done it.

Participant: The whole of society is set up that way.

Yeah.

Participant: It's interesting because the shutter almost says on one side I can't bear the truth of this situation and on the other side of the shutter it says please do this to me.

That's correct and because we do not want to accept the logic behind love, we often then tell ourselves very illogical things about what love is. So for example this demonstrates, and I've mentioned this before, the illogical thing about abuse as a child. [01:05:19.10]

9.3. An illustration of different terms used for physical abuse of children and adults

When we become an adult and somebody comes up and hits us, we call that assault, the police desire us to charge the person with a criminal offence and that person can potentially, depending on the seriousness of the offence, be jailed for that assault. That's what we call it when we're an adult. But when they're a child and they get a belting, we don't call it assault. We call that discipline. Now is that logical? As an adult we're calling it assault, but as a child we're calling it discipline. Is that logical? Now to me that makes no logical sense at all. Let's call it the same; so if somebody comes and punches you in the nose as an adult let's call that discipline too, or do the opposite whereby if somebody smacks their child and beats their child then let's call that assault.

We've got to do one or the other for it to be logical but what we do is we make all these compromises because we cannot face emotionally the fact that our parents assaulted us. Most of us can't face that emotionally, and so as a society we don't want to face that emotionally. Yet we're perfectly emotionally capable of facing the fact that when somebody comes along and smacks me on the nose as an adult, everyone in society accepts that as assault. Now that tells me there are some major problems with our society with regard to what we accept as assault. Either the punch in the nose as an adult is discipline or the child got assaulted, one of the two happened and we need to look at either one.

Now that's not a judgement. I'm not judging the parent for the reason why they've done it or anything like that, I'm just stating a fact and that is that if one is called assault, the other should also be called assault. If one is called discipline, then why isn't the other one called discipline?

Participant: Hi. I just want to know doesn't a parent's intent when they discipline their child physically matter as well?

I agree but one of the talks that I've given about parental discipline is, often parents don't understand the underlying reason why something happens with the child. You see one of the basic problems that we have on the planet is we believe the child has its own little independent emotional system going on but the reality is that most children are actually reflecting the denied emotion of the parent. So if we investigate that more fully from a scientific perspective, and there are ways and methods to do that, we will find as a human race why children choose to take certain actions, and we will actually find that they take certain actions because of the denied emotion of the parent. [01:08:36.02]

Now to me it does not then make sense to go and smack the child for what it's only reflecting back at the parent that the parent is denying within itself. And so my feelings are we need to scientifically investigate that, which we can easily do through a process of investigation like we would any other scientific thing, and we will come to discover that particular truth as a human race. And so therefore, once we discover that truth, we would no longer desire to discipline or smack our children in particular in order to discipline or train them - we would choose other methods instead and those other methods would be less violent and more loving to the child.

Please don't feel it's a judgement because I personally have smacked my own children in the past - I've had to change on this issue as well to get to a different way of thinking. But my feelings are now that if we're smacking our child we are now perpetrating violence towards the child no matter what the underlying justification is and our child now is going to have fear enter it as a result of that particular violence, and as a result of that fear now be open to further perpetrations of violent acts towards it as a result of that openness to that fear.

So this whole idea that love allows abuse has to change on the planet because it's very opposite to a viewpoint of "if I love myself I will not continually allow a person to abuse me". I won't do that. I might do it once or twice or three times perhaps but I won't allow it continually because if I love myself I would want to remove myself from that particular situation. So love never abuses nor really allows the continual act of abuse.

10. Love always results in change or growth

How is this one - love means never having to change? How's that for one of the world's definitions of love? You see this happening a lot in relationships as well, where a person sits down with a group of friends and they say, 'She's making me pick up my clothes. I've never picked up my clothes my whole life. I've only ever done it when I've had to do the washing. So the rest of the time I leave it on the floor. I'm allowed to keep my house messy.' And we justify a heap of acts that we perform and our partner at the same time is saying, "No this isn't fair, I don't want this to happen anymore. You're not changing," and the guy's saying, "If you love me you wouldn't try to change me," which comes from a feeling of 'if you love me, you'll put up with me exactly as I am warts and all and I don't have to change anything thank you very much'. Now while that might be true on the loving side, the reality is that love always results in change or growth.

Now put it this way. Imagine if for a moment you gave birth to a child, the little child's there sitting in your arms and it's a new born babe, or two or three months old perhaps, and then eight years later your neighbour comes over and you're still holding the same child in your arms like this and it's exactly the same size as it was eight years ago. Now would you think there's a problem? (Laughter) You definitely would, wouldn't you?

And what I put to you is that it's the same with love. You see with love everything grows, everything grows and becomes more, not less. It becomes more beautiful, more involved, more passionate, more understanding, more kind and considerate and it also becomes more in terms of size like that's the reality with love; if you nurture it, it grows.

Now if love grows, then it makes logical sense that that means you're going to have to change because growth is change. So every time we argue that we shouldn't have to change, can you see we're automatically out of harmony with love? And can you see how this is one of the problems with human relationships; how we're often complaining that the other person wants us to change when actually the change that they're wanting us to make would probably be a good one. From picking up your clothes after you've dropped them on the floor, right the way through to very severe things like why don't you kiss me when other people are around, for example. Obviously there's a fear involved there and if we grow we would change. [01:14:29.19]

Now I'm not suggesting that you force yourself into change without changing your feelings about the matter. I'm not suggesting that. But what I am suggesting is if your true feelings were that you want to grow in love, you would not resist change. So all of you who believe and all of the people in the world who believe that a relationship should not change, we've automatically got a problem because the relationship would change if I and my partner were growing in love. It would automatically change; it has to because love results in growth and therefore change.

So my suggestion is to have a think about that one with regard to relationships. Love always results in growth.

11. Fear originates from the fear of our own emotions

Participant: I was wondering where fear entered into the human consciousness around change? Did it start at the first disobedience of humankind with the first parents or did it start with a country fearing another country about controlling them?

All fear generally begins with the fear of our own emotions, that's where most fear generally begins. As the human race walked away from God, naturally they now became dependent upon themselves. Now as a result of their fear, they became dependent on self. Now the problem with becoming dependent on self is we no longer view our environment as an environment that will fully sustain us without ourselves being dependent upon ourselves. We don't have then this viewpoint that the universe has this unlimited resource available for us and so we then have a feeling of lack enter us. And as the lack feeling enters us now, because of the lack feeling, we have fear associated with whether we're going to be able to support ourselves, have enough to eat, have enough to drink, have enough to wear and so forth, that all just starts to perpetrate itself as a cycle.

We end up getting to this point where we have so much lack in ourselves that we become addicted to a comfortable life. So what we finish up doing is we create a degree of comfort. So we work our guts out, as the saying goes, to have a comfortable life and then we defend that life to the extreme. And when I say to the extreme we'll defend it even to the point of killing somebody else as many would on the planet would kill somebody else to defend their life.

So for example if tomorrow somebody came along and squatted in your house, and you came home and all of a sudden now you've got a whole family living in your house, and when you try to ask them to move, they get out a gun and point it at you saying, "This is our house now." Now most of us would walk away from that situation enraged and also in terrible amounts of fear. What do we do now? "All of our possessions have been taken from us, all of our life has been taken from us" is the viewpoint that we would have and because of our lack we would have all of these emotions of "it's taken me all my life to get this and it's been taken from me in one event." [01:19:02.04]

Participant: Lack of love.

Yeah, so in other words I'm so afraid and because I've been dependent upon myself, I've got to go out and re-create all of this, and that causes me to go into a defence of the lack. In other words I am so afraid of ever having lack in the future that I'm now even willing to perpetrate acts of violence towards others in order to prevent myself from feeling the feeling of lack.

And it all comes from a fear of my own emotion, a fear that I'm not going to be able to create for example. I'm afraid that I am unable to create again. So in other words I'm afraid of feeling some emotions, that's all. And it's the fear of our emotion that causes most problems on the Earth if you think about it.

11.1. An example of terrorism and violence

Think about war; let's look at terrorism as an example. Why would I perpetrate an act of violence towards another? The only reason why would be because I feel something has been taken away from me. Wouldn't that be the only reason? If I feel something has been taken away from me then I would then want to take something away from somebody else. Now doesn't that come from a fear of feeling my own emotion?

Now imagine that your son or daughter was murdered by somebody. Now the only thing that would prevent you from wanting to murder somebody else's son or daughter, preferably the person who murdered yours, would be your willingness to experience your own grief. You see if you could become willing to feel your own grief, you wouldn't need to go and harm another person's family, no matter what the underlying motive. But because we're so afraid on the planet of feeling grief to that extent, we are willing to perpetrate further acts of violence towards others in order to avoid the grief. Even if that means sticking them in jail for thirty years without any hope of being released, we'd prefer that than we would helping the person become rehabilitated. Most of us on the planet don't want the rehabilitation of a murderer; we actually want the incarceration or death of the murderer, that's the real emotion that we often feel. [01:21:49.11]

So even that comes from this fear of feeling my own emotion, my inability to fully experience my own emotion and experience it.

Participant: It makes a lot of sense because with lack you can't have growth but without fear and with love then you have growth.

And you also don't have lack anymore either, that's the irony. You see lack creates many things. It creates a desire for defence; it creates a desire for attack. You know, "something's going to be taken away from me, I'm going to take it away from you first and that way will stop you taking it away from me." This whole idea in terrorism of pre-emptive strikes that the U.S. Government is now involved in is all about the fear of lack. What they've done is they've built up what they believe is a very secure, safe economy and environment for the U.S. citizens and now they're intent on protecting that from everybody else.

11.2. An example of immigration

Our whole immigration policy in Australia is all about lack. We're all worried that if we have more people coming in there'll be less to go around. Isn't that a fear of lack? Of course it is. So lack causes a lot of fear, and we're afraid of feeling the emotions of lack and that increases our fear. We've become more dependent upon ourselves, we then project more lack onto our environment and we then go into this downward spiral into really dark actions, really unloving actions because we're unwilling to stop the cycle somewhere. [01:23:32.29]

12. Fear is not real from God's perspective

Participant: So these emotions that aren't love, and aren't God's definition of love, were created by man?

Well they're created by fear, which was created by man.

Participant: Yes because fear was created by man.

Remember fear is false expectations appearing real. So in other words we've had a whole set of untruthful beliefs enter us, the first of which was when you die you're dead. That is an untruthful belief but now most of the human race believe that and so that now perpetrates a cycle of dependence on self, lack, attack on others, not able to feel our emotions, more fear and so forth and off it goes. [01:24:18.22]

Participant: So the potential for us is to make those choices, and it's lovingness from God in creating us with that ability to make a choice to step away from God or to step towards God.

Yeah you're allowed to choose anything you want because of this gift of free will we've been given, but when we use our free will in fear, we're going to degrade the condition. If we use our free will in love, not fear, then we'll improve our condition.

Now you could say the opposite of fear is truth. Truth and fear are opposites if you like.

So the more I accept the truth about the universe, not just about the world but the universe; about the soul, about how things work, everything, the more I scientifically evaluate all of this material and come to see the truth about everything, the less fear I will experience because fear is the false appearing real to me and it's fear that finishes up degrading the human race.

Participant: Yeah so I'm sort of getting more that fear is not even a real thing. I'm just getting that a bit more.

It's an emotion that we need to feel. So it is real from that perspective; it is a feeling that's inside of us where we feel quite terrified and there are very strong emotions with it. But unfortunately there's nothing to fear in God's Universe and once we understand the truth of God's Universe, we will fear nothing. To understand the truth, it has to enter us in the same place where the fear is. The fear is in us, it has to come out, and the truth has to enter us emotionally as a feeling. That's the problem that we face as a human race - we need to allow this fear to be released without acting upon it and we need to allow the truth to enter us, and now we act upon that and what the truth dictates.

12.1. An example of the fear of violence and death

So, for example, many of us do not realise how strong still within us the fear of violence is. The fear of personal violence is very strong in the human race. Now that fear of personal violence mostly exists because we're afraid that when we die we're dead and therefore there is no chance of life afterwards, we're going to lose all sense of happiness, all sense of fulfilment, and not even know ourselves anymore. Or if it's more of a religious viewpoint, a lot of the fear is, "I've been a bad person I'll go to hell anyway". So a lot of people are afraid of where they're going to end up if there is an afterlife.

Now the truth is that you have the ability to continue growing for the rest of your existence, whether you lose your physical body or not, that's the truth. But that truth has to be inside of me emotionally before it's going to change my actions. While it's just a thought, I'm still going to react to situations that are violent in a violent manner. It's only going to be when there's a relaxed feeling in me of, "I don't need to react to any violent situation, because at the end of the day I'm just going to change in terms of my dimensional existence. I'll be in another location with the ability to continue growing, so I have nothing to fear."

In fact we start learning that fear is the only thing that causes pain. Now I've described this to many of you already; how I've been through a situation myself where when I was afraid of it, I had extreme amounts of pain and then once I got through that psychological barrier of the fear itself, the pain disappeared completely and all of a sudden it felt pleasant. The thing that felt painful before actually felt pleasant just by going through that psychological barrier of fear. Fear creates the pain in our body and in our life. [01:28:53.25]

So it's very important to understand that the world's definition of love is really based around fear, and ideas of fear. And it's very important for us to understand that this is the case.

12.2. An example of drug use

Participant: Hi, how are you going? Michael's my name. I totally agree with everything I've heard you say so far and I was thinking of a more complex scenario perhaps, like drug use, where it introduces a lot of fear to a lot of people but the individual per se is not otherwise demonstrating anything but love. How do you suggest society applies their views to that?

I agree that a lot of the judgements of society about drug use and in fact a lot of the judgements in society about all sorts of things are actually based on fear; their own fears of that particular thing.

So let's look at say the use of drugs as an example. We need to look again at the reality of drugs compared to the fear-based reaction towards drugs. So the fear-based reaction that most of humanity has towards drugs is what? What would you say? They're saying don't do it, I agree, but why? [01:30:22.02]

Participant: Because it's going to be detrimental to your ability to love others.

Okay so it'll be detrimental to your physical health is one thing, your emotional wellbeing is another and potentially many people feel will cause your death. That's how most of society feels isn't it, generally?

Participant: Yeah.

So you're out of control, somebody mentioned. So there's no control and society has a huge problem with control of course. We've got to all be in control emotionally and every other way. So that's society's viewpoint.

Now if we just take away all of those viewpoints without looking at the potential of the truth about drugs, we would then be perhaps justified in saying, "Well we can take drugs, there's no problem with". But what is the truth about drugs? Now it depends on what type of drug, doesn't it?

Participant: Absolutely and it's a similar issue to corporal discipline, as you were saying earlier. It's okay for us to apply drugs in a social context but then in another context we decide no it's not.

Let's see if we can go further than that. It's okay to apply drugs in a health context. Like you can go to the doctor and buy a drug and that's okay.

Participant: Yeah, and when we really explore the issue and the physical impacts, which seems a lot of those fears tie back to, this whole notion seems to transcend the physical in that we're trying to explore a state that allows us to understand that we can continue to grow, even beyond our physical being.

I agree but I would put to you though that it would make also logical sense that the only reason why we turn to substances in order to explore is because we're afraid of exploring without the substances. I feel that one of the primary fears that we have in this society is that we're so afraid of emotion and we're so afraid of truth that the only time we'll go and discover it is if we're under some kind of influence or some kind of substance like alcohol, drugs and so forth. [01:33:04.25]

Now if we look at the issue of alcohol for example. Alcohol causes huge amounts of problem on our planet but is it alcohol that causes it or is it the suppression of emotion that occurs that causes a person to feel attracted to alcohol?

Participant: I'm inclined to agree with the latter and thus in some respects think that the social structure which promotes a mental culture of "this is okay, that's not okay because I said so" is not one that's going to reveal the truth.

Exactly and it's also not a structure that's based on love because a structure based on love allows exploration; it doesn't mean that I have to do it personally but it allows exploration as long as the results of that exploration are more loving. That's what it will do.

So let's have a look at some of the truths. Now some drugs are very dangerous, so the reality is there is a danger of death, right? What is the reason why most people take drugs? To escape or avoid. [01:34:22.16]

Participant: I would say that's part of a social stigma really because I've never really met a person who hasn't attempted to escape or avoid.

And what I'm suggesting Michael is if society as a whole didn't have this general mentality that we need to avoid our emotions and avoid our life experiences and get away from the terrible emotions we sometimes feel, then society would be less given to be wanting to take drugs. [01:34:58.14]

Participant: My view is more that it's the same drive that drives education and the desire to learn in the first place.

Yeah I don't know. I think there'd be far more factors myself than that.

Participant: To varying degrees obviously.

You see I would also argue that what happens with many drugs is there is this tendency inside of us to attach to the drug because we are trying to go for an experience that we're not normally having. Now my question would be why aren't we normally having it?

We were talking to some spirits a few weeks ago who were drug users on the Earth and they passed into the spirit world, and we talked to them about receiving love. Once they started receiving love from God, one of the comments they made was, "This is better than any drug," and my feeling is a lot of times we turn to drugs because there is a lack of love in our lives either in relationships or in our relationship with God.

Participant: My view is more that we strive to want to learn things. We actually self inflict this state of fear because our comfort zone becomes comfortable and the desire to want to learn drives us to want to make choices to explore new things. A lot of that is moving away from a physical exploration to a mental exploration so there is an increasing desire to want to explore in particular things that will increase a cognitive state, which is anything from books to taking drugs. [01:36:45.03]

To spirituality, to all sorts of things. I agree but I feel again that we are capable of doing that exploration in a society that doesn't have to take drugs in order to perform that exploration. I also feel that I don't understand why society generally punishes the taking of drugs because that creates in itself a whole sleuth of criminal activities and therefore a whole sleuth of environment and economical impacts that would not normally be created.

Participant: Similar to the corporal punishment discipline cycle that you would see in smacking a child.

12.2.1. Altering our body with drugs prevents us from absorbing truth and love

My personal view is that any time I take something that actually alters my body's state; I am actually prohibiting my body from more easily absorbing truth and love. So for that reason I personally do not take drugs of any kind, even ones prescribed by doctors generally, because I feel that it does alter the state of truth and love within the soul of the individual.

Participant: I wholeheartedly agree with your approach there because it's consistent. I really only brought up the issue because I think it's a glaringly inconsistent one in society that's promoting this psychosis.

Yes it is. There are many glaring inconsistencies in society and any inconsistency in society is illogical and therefore must be unloving, and I agree we need to examine it from a loving perspective. The problem with many debates about such matters is that there is not an acknowledgement of the inconsistencies. There's not an acknowledgement of the fact that on the one hand we're saying one thing is true and on the other hand we're saying the other thing is true, just like the earlier example I gave of smacking a child is discipline, hitting an adult is assault and there's a glaring inconsistency and therefore it's illogical and therefore it's unloving. [01:38:52.00]

Participant: Lewis is my name; sorry I didn't introduce myself before. I've had a thought recently that the use of illicit drugs in a controlled context, namely through psychiatrists or whatever so that society feels comfortable with the idea, on a small and controlled scale could perhaps give people an idea of what their mind is capable of without the drugs.

Yeah there was a man named Terence McKenna, have you heard of him? He was a scientist who's now passed from a brain tumour. He felt he received through the use of illicit psychotropic drugs many of the truths of the universe that he then defined scientifically. And I agree that he did but it wasn't because of the use of drugs, it was because the use of a drug connected him to some spirits who then could transmit to him information that he wasn't otherwise transmitting when he was in his normal state, and the reality is he could have talked to those spirits in an un-induced or un-drugged state as well as he could of in a drugged state. But because of society's problems with that and the viewpoint that that is a crazy thing to do and is often viewed as crazy, he couldn't do that and instead he went towards the psychotropic.

So my feeling with a lot of this information about drugs and so forth is that if you feel you maintain your pure state emotionally, physically, mentally and you maintain a state of desire, passion and longing and you are in a state of love, you will not need additional substances to help you with your life or the exploration of your life. I feel we often then feel attracted to substances to explore our life because of the denial of those other factors; the denial of the lack of love primarily. [01:41:23.29]

Participant: I think what illicit drugs do is give people a brief moment of escapism from those emotional barriers.

I agree but then I would say to you wouldn't it be better to have a permanent state of escapism from those barriers than a temporary one?

Participant: Well I agree which is why I've never consumed alcohol or illicit drugs.

Yes.

12.3. Differences between urgency based on fear and urgency based on love

Participant: I think I've figured out a lot of what you're saying now but time is of the essence, we're on the brink of something disastrous happening. Illicit drugs could be used safely and in a safe context to give people a brief glimpse of what their mind is capable of, and then apply your philosophies to it.

But Lewis the statement you just made was a statement of fear because you're saying time is of the essence, the reality is you have an everlasting life so time is not of the essence.

Participant: Fear can give you a sense of urgency though couldn't it?

Yeah but the problem is urgency based on fear is not love, it's based on fear, and so therefore it's based on untruth. This is what I'm trying to get across; anything that's based on fear is the world's definition of love but it's not God's definition of love. It's not the truth about love. Anything based on truth is what's going to be loving. [01:42:56.06]

So if I'm worried that the world's going to end tomorrow or next week or next month or next year, then fear is dominating my behaviour, not truth. The truth is no matter what happens with the world, I have an eternal existence and so therefore I have nothing to fear. Therefore I have an unlimited amount of time to investigate life so I don't need to do it in a hurry if I don't want to. You can but you don't have to.

Participant: Can't there be a fine line on how people perceive fear? Like fear could give you a sense of urgency, but isn't it all about perception? For example if the sense of urgency drives you towards loving acts?

But I'm saying that that's impossible. What I'm stating and I have been stating for many years now is that it's impossible to use as a justification, a fear-based explanation to become more loving.

Participant: I tend to agree on society's general definition of fear.

But you're saying if fear creates the sense of urgency then it's helpful and I'm saying if it's fear that creates the urgency then it's not helpful. If truth creates the urgency then it's helpful. Can you see the different underlying motivations?

Participant: Can't it be true to sometimes be afraid of things, isn't that natural?

No, what I'm saying is that it's not natural. Our normal state is to be afraid of nothing at all including death. That is our normal state. If truth or love creates urgency then that's fantastic.

So in other words if I notice Mary, my girl on the opposite side of the room, and I feel an instant urge to go up and give her a hug and I feel really so urgent that I'm willing to avoid my conversation with you in order to do that... [01:45:10.16]

Participant: Go right on ahead.

Then love (laughter) creates my urgency and so therefore there's always going to be a positive result, do you understand?

Participant: Wouldn't there still be in the back of your mind a little bit of fear that if you didn't do that right at that moment that she...

She might get upset with me?

Participant: Yes.

Well now fear is creating my urgency and it's not an act of love anymore.

Participant: It's all about how you perceive that fear though, isn't it?

No it's not it's about whether the fear exists or not, if the fear exists within me. In other words if I look at Mary's face and I can see yeah, she wants me to come and give her a hug right now and if I don't do it, she's going to punish me later, there's going to be no sex for a week (laughter) if that happens, if that's what I feel, now it's not love driving my action, it's my fear of no sex for a week that's driving my action. Now guys we're off topic now and I'd like to get on topic.

Participant: What I'm saying is that fear is often what drives the Law of Attraction; we're attracted to things we're afraid of to reconcile them and make them things we're no longer afraid of.

I agree with that statement perfectly. I agree that often it's the unhealed emotion in us that draws an event to us that causes us then to confront it, but we need to confront any fear-based event with truth. That's the key. So if I'm in an interaction with Mary and I'm acting out of fear because I'm afraid she might do something if I don't do it, if I don't take an action, then it's not love anymore that's driving my action it's fear and the only results can be bad. Whereas if love is driving my action, in other words it's desire, passion, longing, now love is driving my urgent action. [01:47:01.28]

12.3.1. An example of children dying of malnutrition

So for example, if we put urgent action in a world context. Fifty million children die every single year of starvation. Now to me love would dictate an urgent action would it not? Yes? Love would dictate an urgent action but what do we do? We um and ah, and are still umming and aching. It's been years and years of fifty million children dying every year of malnutrition and we're still umming and ahing because when fear drives the action, the problem is it just depends on which fear is the highest as to which one wins. Whereas when love drives the action, love is always the winner and this is the thing we need to bear in mind. The problem for the world is that we're often just trading one fear for another for another and whatever fear is the greatest is the fear that dictates my life.

So in my case with Mary let's say if I go to give her a hug but then I can feel in Mary that she actually doesn't want me to hug her at all, now fear is dictating my action, and not love dictating the action, and now I'm afraid of rejection, afraid of disapproval. What I'm saying is now I will never have a good relationship with Mary while those fears are in place. My human relationship with another person is never going to be based upon love and will never grow in that place. But as soon as my actions are based on truth and love, every single interaction has a chance for growth, and that might mean urgency I agree, truth can create urgency, but in fact I feel truth should create more urgency than fear ever would.

So the fact that fifty million children die every year should create within us an urgency to resolve this problem from a world perspective. But it hasn't because fear dominates man and everyone wants to have a slice of the pie, everyone is too afraid to take action in countries. Everyone is too afraid to have those fifty million people come to Australia. I personally would be okay with fifty million people coming to Australia if they were all children dying of malnutrition, I don't know about you and I'm sure that economically we could create a means to support them somehow, that's my feelings. Many of us have four or five children in our families and we seem to support them fine so I just feel there is a way to fix these problems. But when fear dominates, a fear of lack kicks in, and I go, "No, if we have fifty million people come here who are all in malnutrition, what are we going to do with them? Who's going to look after them?" And we start now worrying about all the details too much rather than actually acting upon love, where we now have a different result.

13. Love is never jealous

Let's move on. Let's look at this one - love is jealous. That's a pretty common belief, isn't it? All you need to do to get God's point of view here is to add a "never" - love is never jealous. This is a very confronting belief in relationships. We sometimes want to hold on to the concept that love is jealous because it means I love you; it's proof that I love you that I'm jealous. And we even see this in movies where somebody's jealous, "Ah that means he loves her because he's jealous:

Jealously comes from all sorts of emotions, but in particular it comes from the emotion of lack again, in that I will not have enough from you if I'm jealous of you spending your time with somebody else; it means that I won't have enough. Now there are lots of causes of jealousy and I won't go into them today, but what I'm saying is that love is never jealous. Love doesn't have the feeling in it that somebody else shouldn't do or shouldn't take an action just because they love you, that's the reality about love. Jealousy comes from emotions of lack and so therefore comes from emotions of fear, and of course fear is never loving.

So love is actually never jealous and if somebody is jealous they are actually afraid and if they're afraid there might be a good reason why they're afraid or no reason at all. Now when I say no reason at all, let's be more specific.

13.1. An example of discovering our partner is unfaithful to us

A person may become fearful of the relationship. So imagine you're walking down the street going to get lunch and you just decide, "I think I'll go around the corner and go to a place to buy some lunch, that I've never been to before." You turn the corner and right there over in the distance a bit you see your wife or your partner passionately kissing another man. Now what I'm saying is that love is never jealous, so if we were love we'd be able to look at that without any jealousy. Now that's a pretty challenging concept isn't it? How many of us would feel that at this point? There they are in a passionate embrace and what would be the normal response for the average person on the planet?

Participant: Rage.

Well no, you see we've got to trace the response because the normal response is fear. The rage comes from a fear. So what's the fear? I've lost her and I don't want to feel my emotions of loss, I don't want to grieve the potential of losing this relationship of the person I feel I love. And so because I'm afraid of dealing with my own emotions of loss and afraid of losing the relationship because I'm afraid of my own emotions, the next step I take is one of, many times, anger. And I can even be so angry that it becomes rageful and it can even become so enraged that it becomes resentful which is long term rage sitting inside of you.

Now firstly, if I were comfortable feeling my emotion of grief about the potential loss of the relationship, then I would never get to anger, rage or resentment in this situation for a start. But secondly, the jealous feeling that I have, which is actually anger or rage about the event that I'm observing, comes from my own fear of loss inside of myself. Whereas if I wasn't afraid of loss I'd probably just wander up to them, just tap her on the shoulder and say, "What's going on here? I thought we were in a relationship and you're now in a relationship with somebody else?" Can you see I might still love the person but I would see immediately that from a love perspective the relationship really has been terminated in that moment and if I am prepared to feel my grief, I would be able to feel my grief, if I had grief to feel, without going into the jealousy, without going into the rage. [01:56:33.14]

So the reality is that love is never really jealous if it's really love. Jealousy is caused by anger about not being able to feel your grief of loss. Therefore it's fear of the grief of loss and therefore it is not loving because it's fear-based, it's not truth-based. But love is never jealous. A person who is in love would be able to walk straight up to them in that situation, tap them on the shoulder and say, "What's happening here? Can we have a chat about it?" and be able to have the chat without becoming enraged, without even being angry. But they would be quite firm about, "Hang on a sec you're in the relationship with another person, therefore you're not in a relationship with me, therefore I think we need to separate straight away until you work out what you want."

But the world's viewpoint is that if a person can do that then it means they didn't love them in the first place. And often what happens then is we go down this track of where we even have people trying to make a person jealous in order to prove that they love them or that they have loved. And if you're trying to make somebody jealous, I put to you that that is also not loving because you're trying to make somebody else angry rather than feel their own grief about your lack of fidelity. So that's another truth about love.

The World's Definition of Love: Session 3, Part 2

14. Love is never compromise

One of the big things I find in the world today is the viewpoint that love is compromise. You see it happening all the time. You see it happening in relationships where people compromise the truth in their relationship, or they feel they have to compromise their desires and passions in particular. Now my suggestion is if your desires and passions are always harmonious with love, then why would love ever be a compromise?

So if your desires and passions were harmonious with your desire and passion to love, then it would make sense that love is no longer ever a compromise; it's always something that you just don't need to compromise at all.

And the reality is from God's perspective, love is never compromise. Well what I mean by that is that when you are in a state of love yourself, you never feel like you're having to compromise yourself or your life for somebody else. Your motivation for doing everything is based around love, and because it's based around love, it never feels like a hardship, it never feels like a struggle it always feels good, because it's always based upon love rather than having to compromise your feelings.

Now I suggest to you that if you are compromising in relationships quite frequently, then you are not loving yourself. And if you are not loving yourself, then you also are incapable of loving the person you're with, because what you're doing is you're not actually being truthful with the person you're with; you're not acting in a truthful manner.

We see this happening quite a lot in relationships where people wonder why their relationships aren't as close as they could be and oftentimes it's because one person feels they have to compromise this desire, which they usually get upset about at some point. And the other person feels they have to compromise this desire that they have which they usually get upset about at some point. And then these underlying upset states simmer, just under boiling and then a little event comes along that tips if from just under boiling into boiling over, and now we have an argument or a fight. And quite often the arguments or fights that occur in relationships have nothing to do with what you're arguing and fighting about, they are actually just the straw that broke the camel's back, as the saying goes, because we've been compromising and compromising and compromising and eventually some of the compromises get too great to withstand anymore. [00:03:37.12]

When we are in a state of love, we don't feel like anything we do is a compromise. We do it because we love and it feels like we want to, not because it feels like we have to. That is a very different state to feeling like you want to. So a good way to measure whether you're actually doing something in harmony with love or not is to determine whether you have a feeling inside of you of having to do it compared to having a feeling inside of you that you want to do it. It's a very simple test.

Every time you feel like you have to, then you're already in a state of compromising something within yourself and therefore you're not in a state of love anymore, but you are now presenting yourself not as you really are but as you're hoping to be.

14.1. Emotionally compromising is not being truthful about how we really feel

Now in any relationship we want to present ourselves as we really are, even if as we really are is angry, upset, moody and all of those kinds of things, we need to at least be honest about where we really are rather than falsifying that condition into a place that we're not really being. This is about being truthful.

So when I say compromise we're often emotionally compromising and not stating the truth about how we really feel in a relationship. Don't think this is just an intellectual compromise, I'm talking about the emotional compromises that we make on a day-to-day basis in order to maintain a relationship. When we're in this "having to" state we're in a state where we're denying the ability for the relationship to grow closer, because relationships can only grow closer when they become more truthful. Remember it's the truth that sets us free, not lies or fear. You see if we can't say the truth in a relationship about how we feel, then where can we say the truth? That's the issue we face.

So "having to" is a very untruthful state.

Now I don't mean untruthful in terms of verbally untruthful, because a lot of times we're not even saying anything when we're in this state. When we're in an untruthful state, what I mean is that we are willing to have our internal dialogue be completely different to our external dialogue or actions. So inside of myself I might have a thought of, "Gee that annoys me," but my external dialogue is, "Yeah, no worries I'll do that." That's what I mean about the disharmony between what's going on inside of myself, in other words my internal dialogue, and what's going on outside of myself, in other words what I portray to others. [00:07:22.22]

Now often we are quite untruthful in that manner, we are putting forward to the world a totally different person than what inside of ourselves we feel. And in a relationship when we do that, we automatically create a barrier between the other person and ourselves and that barrier is now like a wall between the two of us that can't be penetrated until one or both of us become more truthful with each other.

So the internal dialogue is not the same as what we portray. A lot of men do this with mother-in-laws. (Laughter) The wife says, "Oh, my mum's coming around tonight." "Ah, yeah no worries," but inside is a feeling of, "Oh God, I hope there's a footy show on or something tonight." So the internal dialogue is very different to the external dialogue, and this creates a barrier.

14.2. Our internal and external dialogue are identical when we no longer compromise

When we no longer compromise, our internal dialogue and our external dialogue are identical. Now for many of us that is a major challenge to bring those two into being identical. So we need to learn that every time our internal dialogue is not the same as what we're portraying externally, we must have a fear associated with that, a reason why we cannot present ourselves truthfully. And that is one of the major compromises we make in relationships, where our internal dialogue is not the same as what we portray. If you think about it it's one of our major compromises generally that we make in our life, at work, during our day-to-day life, but in particular with our relationships.

14.3. Relationships can never be close when we compromise our true feelings, desires and passions

Now I feel it's quite important to understand the effect of untruth on a relationship is actually cataclysmic. You cannot ever be close to another person while your internal dialogue is not the same as what's happening externally and what you're actually doing at a soul level is creating a barrier through which the other person will not be able to ever really feel your true nature. You're actually not only doing yourself a disservice but you're doing a disservice to the relationship. You're creating a situation where it's impossible for the relationship to actually grow in truth and in love. [00:10:42.09]

Now the relationship might be relatively stable, because both of us are withholding all of the things we actually feel towards the other. So externally the relationship may even look like a good relationship, but it's not going to ever be a close relationship, it's going to be a relationship that works, because it's just.

So if I withhold from Mary all of the things I don't want her to know and what she doesn't want to know, and she withholds from me all the things that she doesn't want me to know and what I don't want to know, as a result we get along. But is it the real people that are getting along? No, it's not the real Mary that I'm getting, because I don't want the real Mary, but also she doesn't want to give the real Mary. And it's not the real AJ she's getting, because I'm not giving the real AJ and I don't want her to know the real AJ as well, and she might not even want to know the real AJ.

And as a result of that, we have a relationship that can never grow and become close. Now the only way a relationship can become close is that both of us don't compromise, but we still love each other. In other words we don't get angry because the other person doesn't compromise, but they should not need to compromise on their desires and passions.

Now there are some desires and passions that are unloving. So for example if I'm in a relationship with Mary and I have a desire to be in a relationship with three other women, now that's obviously unloving to Mary and those other three women. That is now an unloving desire. I'm not suggesting you follow your unloving desires, but I am suggesting that you need to not compromise, and tell your partner them. Now that's confronting as an idea, isn't it? Your partner would know everything that's going on inside of you about your life and your internal dialogue and that's a pretty confronting idea, but you'll be surprised at the results if you practice it, particularly if both parties practice it; you'll get very, very close in terms of close knowing each other; closer than you've ever been before.

Now that doesn't mean you'll still stay together. It just means that you're now truthful and honest and close with your relationship in that you both know each other far better. [00:13:12.10]

14.4. Negotiation is all about compromise

So this whole idea of love being a compromise needs to be given up I feel. You see it a lot in negotiation. Negotiation is all about compromise. And I put to you that people who love do not need to negotiate and the reason is (you think about it) if two nations loved each other and there was a disagreement on the border of the two nations, then negotiating is not going to solve the problem. What's going to solve the problem is more love with each other and one in love is willing to give up their right of something. So therefore there is no need to negotiate. Somebody comes along and says to me, "I want your house," "Okay, no worries, you must need it more than I do. So you can have it and let's go somewhere else and we can create anywhere." It's only the feeling of lack that would create this feeling of resistance and defence and then attack and then wanting to maybe have a war about it. The whole process of war is all about when negotiation fails if you think about it. It's not about being loving to themselves or to others - love has failed.

So what I mean by negotiation specifically is where I give up this and you give up that, and I give up this and you give up that, and I give up this and you give up that, and then we get to an agreement. My question is, why don't we have an agreement already? There's already something out of harmony with love before we began for us to not agree, so let's talk about that, but not talk about giving up each one's position first; let's look at what's harmonious with love.

14.4.1. An example of border control

Now if you look at what's happening in a world view, with the Palestinian thing for example. Recently I think the US said that they're going to block the creation of the Palestinian state. So that means there are millions of people who don't have a country, who want to get a country and I'm going, why do we need a country? Why do you need Australia? We don't need a country, we're world citizens. I should be able to go anywhere in the world. I should be able to set up home anywhere in the world that I want to set up home. There shouldn't be borders. There shouldn't be visas where I have to fill out a three month visa to enter a country. I shouldn't have my fingerprints taken just to enter a country or exit a country, or a photograph taken or any of those kinds of things, aside from perhaps a safety issue maybe. When I say safety I mean so that my mum and dad and brother and sister and friends can keep track of where I am. And then I start to go, "why do they want to do that anyway, why can't we be free citizens?"

And I feel like when I see all of those things that all we're doing a lot of the times we're protecting our little patch, and then we create a government that protects our patch for us. And I've often said to Mary, the fastest way to fix some problems on the Earth would be to have a mass exodus of all of the people who are being oppressed from that particular location. [00:26:37.10]

14.4.2. An example of refugees

So for example in the Sudan there are millions of people being oppressed there, they've created refugee camps for millions of people who are oppressed. Now in Australia we've got huge amounts of space, huge amounts of potential resources. We could easily offer help by actually helping all of the people who are being oppressed, who are being shot or raped or other things happening to them, just help them all, by having ship loads or plane loads of them come over until their camp is empty. Now once the camp's empty there's nobody to rape, there's nobody to shoot. What are the people with the guns going to do? I don't know, but they're certainly not going to be able to shoot or rape those particular people anymore are they? And we could create an environment here where their life could be supported quite easily.

So I feel a lot of times what we're trying to do is negotiate because we want to hold onto a position of lack. We're trying to hold on to a position of lack and so what we do is we negotiate with that position. We'll give up something, in other words create a bit more lack for me as long as a bit more lack gets created for you at the same time, and we negotiate another position.

14.4.3. Love automatically wants to repair unloving problems

I feel that love doesn't do that. Love is loving and so therefore automatically sees the need of another person. And by the way you can automatically see the greed of another person. Do you see the difference? Love sees the need and love also sees the greed, and love doesn't compromise with greedy people. Love doesn't compromise with needy people either by the way \- love doesn't compromise at all but with greedy people it certainly doesn't accede to a greedy person and give them more. Love would never do that; love doesn't compromise those kinds of principles.

Love would see a need and want to fix it automatically. That's what love does. Love wants to repair problems that are unloving. So love would always respond to needs and love would never respond to greed, and love would not compromise on those particular issues. Love would not negotiate with a greedy person in order to help a needy person. And if you think about a lot of international politics in the world, that's exactly what they're doing. They're negotiating with greedy people; the people who use most of the resources on the planet are being asked to negotiate their position. Why do they have to be asked? They shouldn't be holding all of these resources of the planet; they should automatically want to give it when other people have less. [00:30:01.11]

14.4.4. An example of food production

So it's a bit like here in Australia, often we have very big bumper crops, sometimes with wheat for example. Sometimes those crops are so large that the world market depresses so greatly that our Australian farmers can't even sell their wheat, or have to sell it at hugely reduced prices. Now I would ask myself firstly, let's look at the issues of where we're compromising. Now what we're doing firstly is we're asking farmers to pay for food production, by paying for the goods they receive in order to produce food. Now why are we doing that? That doesn't make any sense to me. Food production and anybody who wants to be involved in it should be given the resources to do it for free, shouldn't they? Because we want food, don't we? Why would we have some kind of economic bargain in place about food?

So instead we give the farmer all of the things he needs to do his passion, which is to produce food. We give him everything he needs and help him out. Then he produces all this food and what we do with the food, because we're not worried anymore about the farmer and whether he's got enough for himself because he's got plenty because we're giving him that, what we now do is we give away his crop. Does that not sound alright to you? We give away his crop and who would we give it to anybody who needs it. So anybody who needs wheat, we give them wheat. So instead of burning our wheat as we do some years here in Australia, and overseas that does happen by the way, or it gets dumped into the sea, we give it to a country who needs it. Surely love would do that.

But love wouldn't then negotiate with greed. The greed is "I want the money for this" and me having a tantrum because I'm not getting the money I'm going to dump everything in the sea as a result. All of that effort and all of that work and all of that produce gets dumped into the sea rather than saying no to greed and saying, "No, What we're going to do is put this for free on the market and give it to the people who need it, but only to the people who need it not the people who are greedy about it." That's what love would do. So love doesn't compromise on issues of truth or love. It doesn't allow things to get out of hand like that. [00:32:56.29]

14.4.5. An example of weapon manufacture

Have you given that much consideration in the world about how it works? It's a bit like why do we have guns? Well the reality is bullets kill people when they're shot out of a gun, so why don't we just stop producing all bullets? Surely love would do that wouldn't it? Why don't we do that? Because of the greed of Western nations, that's why we don't do that. The five biggest gun runners in the world are on the Security Council of the United Nations. Did you know that? This is why we have the US selling arms to places like Afghanistan and then fifteen years later they're getting shot by their own arms. Why is all that happening? Because of the greed of an economy that needs armaments to support its economy. One third of the US economy is based on armaments.

Now is that love? It's not love, so a person who is love wouldn't compromise on those issues, they wouldn't. Just because they have the technology they can sell it, doesn't mean they would. They wouldn't compromise on those kinds of things. Why would you even produce it anyway?

All we need to do to solve a problem like in the Sudan is take away all the people who are being oppressed and no longer supply bullets to the people who are the oppressors. No longer supply any weapons at all in fact. No machetes, no knives, no bullets and if the whole world did that, there wouldn't be a need for a Peace Force in a certain country. They wouldn't even have the means to fight it. But this is the problem we face is that we are so embroiled in greed and the countries who are supplying these arms are so embroiled in greed they want to maintain or improve their lifestyle.

14.4.6. An example of the economy

Even in Australia we do this. How often do you find in Australia we talk about the desire for us to have some kind of growth economically. Now if you think about it, growth economically means that each year we're going to be in a better place than we were last year economically. Now I don't know about you but I feel in comparison to the most of Africa, we're in a pretty good place economically. Most of us eat every day; in fact I've not seen any of you not eat today. There's food out there that we're giving away today because we brought enough, more than what all of a hundred and thirty of us here need. So we're able to give it away if we wanted to, it's just that we don't. So why don't we? Because we're worried about lack, it's all about greed. [00:36:33.13]

Now love doesn't compromise on those issues either. Love doesn't say, "Ah, yeah but I can't give it away or can't do this, or I can't do that with it." Love automatically sees the need and then doesn't compromise in what it does. That's why myself and Mary do all of these things as a gift and we've got a little contribution box up there if you want to give us a gift in return, but it's not a requirement of you. And it's the same with regard to these countries. Why would we not give a country the resources that we have without requiring that it pay for it? Why would we not do that? That to me doesn't make any sense. Why can't we just give it away? There's obviously something wrong with the economy and the way the economies are structured to not be able to do this, there's something unloving in the way everything's constructed.

So this is very important I feel. We need to start looking at this emotion of comparing the emotion of having to, to that emotion of wanting to. That's what we really need to do; what do we want to do?

14.4.7. An example of refugees and border control (continued)

Participant: With regards to the Sudan, to me the loving thing would also be when the danger is removed, to allow those people and support them to go home, provide them a way home without an expectation that they do something for us.

Just stop for a moment though Elaine. What's this whole concept of home?

Participant: Yeah, sorry. Go back, if they wanted to I mean.

I feel anybody who wants to go anywhere in the world should be able to go anywhere in the world, but stop calling it home.

Participant: I just said to someone earlier wherever a roof is, that's when I'm home.

Well I say that home is the Earth that we're living on, wherever that be, and the feeling I have is that if we start calling a single location on this planet home, we are already now creating a border, we're creating a line which we don't want others to cross over. And that automatically creates borders which automatically creates friction, which automatically creates the need for negotiation, which automatically creates compromise and by now we're a long, long way away from love. [00:39:07.24]

Participant: So what you're saying is while they're somewhere else, give them the opportunity to understand that they can remove that attachment from their so called home as well?

All of us on this planet need to remove the attachment to a location. We need to start asking ourselves, are we happy? And are the people we're with the people we want to be with? That's all we need to really ask ourselves, and it doesn't matter where that is, it will be called 'home". We need to give up this idea of a whole nation being in a certain location and that is their home. I don't agree with that at all.

14.4.8. An example of fences

And the reality too is unfortunately, because we now have this homeland idea, we now create security for our homeland. And we do this here in Australia in our own backyards because many of us have bought a security system to protect our own home. So what we've done is we've created a line on the ground, we've put fences around. Isn't this fence idea interesting? How much wasted material is in fences? Huge amounts of wasted material. Huge iron ore deposits completely depleted because of a fence. Forests cut down to create fences. What does a fence do? Creates a border. What does a border do? It creates mine, yours, mine, yours, mine and so forth. It creates delineation between who the owners are. And why do I have a concept of ownership? Because I have a concept of lack, that's the only reason why I have a concept of ownership. [00:40:55.22]

Participant: And the most humorous arguments in courts to do with property are about fences.

Exactly. Why are there such things? Because we're all wanting to protect our little slice because we've all worked with the sweat of our brow to create that little slice, because it has never been given to us in the first place. Like God gave us the Earth and you know what we then did? We cut it up into slices and sold it off, rather than recognising that actually the original giver wanted us to give it to other people if we could. And we can, that's the reality too.

So the problem is that every time I talk about some of these things, everyone goes, "Yeah, now you're just talking about Utopia, it's not going to exist." And what I'm suggesting to you is that it will exist, but when our heart understands love rather than accepting the world's definition of it, that's when it will exist and that has to start with somebody, with some group of people who want to love, showing the world how to love.

So out at home, we're in the process of pulling out our fences. Now some neighbours don't want us to do that because they've got sheep or cattle or whatever and so we leave those fences intact. Other neighbours are perfectly happy with us doing that and so we've pulled out the fence along the front of our house and the fence down one side of our house adjoining another neighbour who wants to do the same thing. [00:42:41.01]

On the land that we were wanting to become a learning centre for God's Way of Love, we want to pull down all the fences, because we see fences as just a way of dividing up the land, creating barrier, creating division and eventually creating disharmony as a result of all of those creations.

And so this is all where it's hard nowadays to live a life that doesn't compromise love, you see because every time you try to live a life that doesn't compromise love, there are people around you who feel like, "What's going on? What's going on? Why are you wanting to do that?" And they start questioning what's actually happening. My feelings are that eventually everyone will question the unloving thing, eventually. At the moment people are questioning, "Is that love? I don't think that's love," when it is. Eventually we want to get to the stage where everyone's going, "That's definitely not loving and we need to try and do something about that," that's where we need to get as a society.

Okay, now they are the main things I wanted to talk about today. There might be one more actually; there's one more that's a really good one.

15. Love never lies

This is a world's definition of love - love allows white lies. Shall we define a white lie? It's the kind of lie that makes another person feel good or the kind of lie that doesn't make them feel bad. And the truth is love never lies. Not even little white ones. I find the whole concept of white lies very interesting because really a white lie is told in order to help yourself or another person avoid an emotion they do not want to feel, or you think that they don't want to feel. [00:45:21.12]

So the wife comes up, and I've used this example - "Do I look fat in this?" (Laughter) And the white lie is, "No darling, beautiful, you're looking great," even though she's put on twenty five kilograms over the last six months, she's still looking great. Instead of saying the truth, "No I think you're overweight now (laughter) and it's not good for you to be overweight and I'm a bit worried for you. What's going on for you emotionally to cause you to be so overweight?"

Now why doesn't that happen? Because the guy is scared. (Laughter) The guy's very scared about telling the truth. He's afraid of what's going to happen, and I put to you that even the creation of so called white lies is all about the level of fear we have about telling the truth and actually living the truth. And if we have fear, remember fear is not love. So fear allows white lies, fear is the creator of white lies actually. Fear is what allows it. When we fear, we're never going to get a good result, ever. There's always going to be a negative result collectively and individually from the expression of fear. And at some point humanity needs to come to accept that as a basic truth.

Now this position of love never lying, basically relates to that previous thing I was talking about, compromise, in that whenever we falsify ourselves to another person, we're actually lying to the other person, and love doesn't do that. Love presents yourself as you truly are, even to yourself but also to others, that's what love would do.

And so we would never lie and we would never believe that there is such a thing as a white lie, a lie that's done for a good purpose. You see every time I do something to help you avoid an emotion, I am not helping you. I am hindering your growth towards God; I'm hindering your growth towards love even if you don't believe in God. I'm hindering your growth towards love if I lie to you about something, that's what I'm doing and even telling a little white one. So these little white ones are often about personal appearances aren't they? Have you noticed that? Like how much weight do I have? Do I look good in this? All of those kinds of things. [00:48:40.09]

So your wife has just bought a two hundred and fifty dollar dress and it's in brown and every time she wears brown she looks terrible. But she's just bought it. What do you say? "You look terrible in brown." That's what you feel, you say it, "You look terrible in brown, why don't you buy red? You look hot in red," or something like that. So we would not lie for the purpose of cheering the other person up.

You see this happening so much you know in the movies. I suppose the movies are just a reflection of our day-to-day life. But you often see it with parents and children under stress, where the parent puts their arms around the children or gives the child a hug, "That's not going to happen. I'm not going to let that happen." Now to be frank with you, how can you even prevent something from happening in your own life, let alone the life of your child? It's pretty hard to prevent an accident occurring in your own life, let alone the life of your child. So how can you give them this reassurance? Isn't it a fear-based white lie that you're just telling them, in order to make yourself or them feel good? We need to stop all of that. If our child says, "I'm scared here," we look at the situation and go, "Yeah I can understand why you're scared there, I would be too," if the situation that they were presenting is based around some fearful events.

A young child today came up to me and said in her school there was blood still on the ground from a five or six year old son being murdered by his own father at the school grounds. Now that's pretty frightening, isn't it? If the child feels frightened about that surely you wouldn't go, "Everything's going to be alright. Don't worry about it." You wouldn't be doing that you'd be saying, "You're allowed to be frightened about that. That's a pretty scary event." And then they'd work through their fear and then their fear would leave them and eventually they wouldn't have that fear anymore if you allowed them to release it. These are the kinds of events that can feel frightening so we need to allow people to feel what they feel. [00:51:05.02]

White lies are an effort to make a person feel something different to what they actually feel, and I put to you that when you love a person, you don't do that to them. You don't try to make them feel something different to what they actually feel. You encourage them to feel what they actually feel instead.

So we could keep going on for weeks and weeks and weeks about the world's definition of love. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of different things that myself and Mary through discussion have come up with that we see the world has a definition that that's loving, the reality is that it's not. The key in your own life is to become more sensitive to what you're being told by the world as to what love is. Be more sensitive about it. Mary, do you want to say something?

16. Receiving God's definition of love into our souls

Mary: It started out as a question, but it's something that I want to maybe ask you to talk about. It's something that I feel passionate about, and that is we've done this very intellectual exercise today, which has been very logical. I can feel that lots people have responded to what we've been saying. We've talked about the world's definition of love and I think that's pretty heavily in a lot of us in a lot of different ways and we talked about God's definition of love and how that challenges those false beliefs in us.

Mary: But I want to talk about, or ask you to talk about God, because I feel like in my life now I've been so attuned to the world's definition of love, because I had parents who taught me the world's definition of love, or I grew up in an environment who taught me the world's definition of love, but what I'm experiencing now is that, yes I need to be humble to releasing the errors and recognising these things as erroneous, but there is a process of opening my heart to God which teaches me also. And I think that's why you and I can talk for hours about this because this God's definition of love is so dear to us. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, good. Can you say it better? [00:54:08.08]

I don't know. Let's have a go. What Mary's talking about is that with the more things we list about the world's definition of love being incorrect, it feels like we're gathering a list of all the things we need to learn to do and all the things we need to learn to drop.

So now we've got a list of all of these things that are all the loving things to do and on the opposite side we've got a list of all of all the unloving things to do. Now the danger for us is that we attempt to try to do the loving thing and try to not do the unloving thing, without engaging the more simple process.

The more simple process is this. Here's God and here's my soul. God has inbuilt in Her systems, all of the loving things and God's love has inbuilt in it, all the loving things.

Mary: And God loves us in all of these ways that you've been discussing today.

In all of the loving ways, God already loves us that way. Now if I can somehow have God's Love enter my soul, instead of trying to do all of the loving things, it will actually be automatic that I do all of the loving things without trying. And instead of trying to not do all of the unloving things, it will be automatic for me to not do anything unloving, because I am now in harmony with God's soul. [00:56:14.05]

We can learn God's definition of love by receiving God's Love into our soul

Now this is the difference between natural love, all the natural love paths that are on the planet, and the Divine Love Path. The difference between those two paths is very simple in that both paths becoming loving. You can be an atheist and follow the natural love path and you will become more loving. You don't even have to believe in God, you don't have to have any spiritual beliefs aside from a belief in love in order to become more loving, that's the reality. However, the simpler thing to do is to experiment with this relationship with God, and that's what Mary is getting at really.

Mary: Yeah rather than engaging this process that we've talked about with your intellect, engage it with God. And I know a lot of times we're blocked to God because of our errors in love, but I just feel so passionately that this is the rapid way to do it. We need to confront the error and that's going to be emotional if we do it from a heart space.

And my feeling is very similar to Mary's in that it is much simpler working through this relationship with God because what happens is as God's Love enters your soul, you automatically feel drawn to the more loving action and you automatically feel drawn to no longer engage in the less loving action. And you don't need anybody else to tell you what's loving and what's unloving, it's just an automatic process within yourself, because you're now joined with the loving God that created the universe, you now have the ability to determine what's loving or not inside of yourself without need to ask anybody else what's loving or what's unloving. [00:58:20.14]

16.1. Receiving God's Love opens our soul up to love-based beliefs entering

And the beauty of doing that is that it is actually a simpler process because God's Love is transforming your soul. Remember I said that the soul had openings, due to fear, that allowed fear-based beliefs to enter it? Well conversely it would also make sense that if we open our soul, which is now getting bigger because it's now more loving, to love-based beliefs, then those love-based beliefs would automatically enter it without any resistance.

Fear opens our soul to fear-based beliefs, while love opens our soul to love-based beliefs

If having fear is the way that we accept fear-based beliefs, then having love must be the way we have to accept love-based beliefs. And we're not going to be able to be in fear and attempt to accept the love-based belief because the soul in fear has a blockage to the love-based belief, and so it's not easily going to enter.

So what we'll end up having to do, if we don't change the love in our soul, is change our actions, or our words or our thoughts and it's going to mean trying and a lot of effort if we do this. And this is why many of you feel like it's a real struggle because you're noticing, "Yes I need to do that, that's not loving, this is loving. What's loving? Ah, yes that's loving." We even have to ask ourselves what's loving. "Ah, that's loving, that's right. That's right I remember that that was loving. And that wasn't very unloving but what about this situation? This seems to be a different situation, what do I do there?" And the reason why we're asking all these questions is because the love hasn't opened our soul yet so that we know automatically what's loving and what isn't loving and automatically do that, whatever that is. [01:00:40.08]

Now if we receive love from God, this has the effect of opening our soul to love-based belief systems, and so now love beliefs have the ability to enter our soul. Now once the love belief enters our soul as an emotion, you will not be able to do anything else other than the love dictates, it's quite that simple. The love will dictate an action that you just would not even want to try to avoid; in fact it would be a passionate desire to follow it.

And that really is the contrast between the world's false definition of love and our definition of love and God's definition of love, which we've learnt ourselves and begun to start to accept. The world's definition of love is fear-based; it opens us to fear-based belief systems and keeps us in a state of fear with our actions. God's system opens us up to love-based beliefs that enter our soul, so just as it's automatic to be afraid in the fear state, it's now automatic to love in the love state, in exactly the same manner. And once it's automatic to love, fear won't even be a consideration in your life again. Now once we become at-one with God, all fear ceases.

16.2. Discovering true spirituality

Now it's interesting that even the Bible says this. This is first John 4:18, for those of you who would like to write it down. "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." Now that is a basic truth in my opinion. The basic truth that once we're perfected in love, fear will no longer be in our soul.

So now what happens is we haven't got an opening to any fear beliefs. We no longer have an opening to fear-based beliefs because the fear that was in our soul is now been removed and now that prevents us from even having an acknowledgement of any fear-based beliefs. We see them externally but they do not enter us, inside of us, they don't dictate to us our life ever again. Now in that place any new fear belief that's presented to me cannot be accepted, because my soul is now resonating with love and so therefore only love-based beliefs can enter it; they're the only type of beliefs that can enter it now. Now once we get to that state where love is the only thing that dictates our belief systems, now we have learnt what true spirituality is. [01:04:16.25]

You see in the world today I feel there's a lot of presentation of all forms of spirituality, but what I notice consistently is there is not much emphasis on love. There's doctrine with most faiths, with most presentations there's the physical, the metaphysical, but how much of it is actually based around the emotion of love? And yet I put to you that love is the greatest thing that can enter our soul because once love enters our soul, no fear can ever reside in it again. And once we get into that state, we now no longer have this definition of love, the world's definition of love, we now have our Creator's definition of love inside of us dictating to us every single action, not because it's a dictator, but because love itself has the ability to guide every single thought, word and action that we have.

And now the love is in our soul, we are completely protected from any unloving belief. You see on the planet we have so much fear of different belief systems. We don't need to fear different belief systems at all, because it's only the loving ones that will enter us. Why would we ever need to fear again? Only the loving belief systems will ever enter us so we don't need to be afraid of what belief systems there are and whether we should follow them or not, because love would dictate everything including the acceptance of new truth.

17. The power of love

So what I'd like to encourage you to do in your own life is to allow this process of fear to come out of you, which is actually an emotional experience. It's not where you go, "Oh I no longer fear," and you intellectually work that out. You're going to have to work your way through your fears in a real sense and feel them emotionally. But as these fears exit, so as the fear gets thrown out of your soul if you like, you will end up where love is the only thing that dictates your soul's actions. It's the only thing that dictates your soul's beliefs; it's the only thing that dictates whatever happens in your life.

As a result of that, once one person enters that state, two people, three people, five people, ten people, you can see that everyone around them is going to be affected by that state. So eventually there'll be a hundred people and eventually there'll be a thousand people and eventually there'll be ten thousand people, because love is very attractive. Love is actually the most attractive force in the universe actually. Fear is actually just the creation of man and is the least attractive thing, and love, the creation of God, is the most attractive emotion you could ever have. And you think about it in your own life isn't that the case? When you're actually in love, almost the rest of your life stops doesn't it pretty much? Everything revolves around the love you feel; that's how powerful love is. Fear is not very powerful at all; it will only motivate a person if they are afraid. That's the only motivator. If they're no longer afraid, fear can't even motivate them anymore. [01:08:02.03]

So in this place, desire, passion, love is what will motivate our lives and instead of fear motivating our life, and the world's definition of love is basically fear, instead of fear motivating us, love motivates us. And when we get into that state collectively, there is a huge power that that state has of infecting every single person around us and every single process around us with love. It's such a beautiful condition that nothing can stand in its way, because love is the most powerful force in the universe that we can experience.

18. Closing Words

So hopefully that's given you a bit more of a background about the world's definition of love. The next talk we have about the world's definition of love, which will be the last talk about the subject, we'll talk more about the feelings of love and what the feelings of love are. Rather than just what love does, we're going to talk about what love feels like. So that will be our next discussion.

Hopefully you've enjoyed that today. Thank you for your time guys and we look forward to seeing you again at some point. (Applause)

Appendix: Human Relationships – The World's Definition Of Love Seminar Outline

### Introduction

The World Thinks:

It knows what Love is

It knows what Love does

It knows what Love feels like

### Comparison Of What Love Is (Session 1)

World's Viewpoint

Love is painful

Love is demanding

Love is sacrifice

Love is justice

God's Truth

Love is NEVER painful

Love is NEVER demanding

Love is NEVER sacrifice

Love is NOT justice

### Comparison Of What Love Is (Session 2)

Additional examples of what the world believes Love is

World's Viewpoint

Love allows abuse

Love is compromise

Love means never having to change

Love is jealous

Love allows "white" lies

God's Truth

Love NEVER abuses, nor allows abuse

Love NEVER compromises

Love ALWAYS results in growth

Love is NEVER jealous

Love NEVER lies, nor allows the lie

### Comparison Of What Love Does (Session 3)

Examples of what the world believes love does

World's Viewpoint

Love takes away bad feelings

Love helps us avoid our own pain

People who love me will do what I want

Lying for Love is a good thing

I will do anything for Love

Love is always personally loyal

Love means never having to say you're sorry

God's Truth

Love NEVER takes away any feelings

Love ALWAYS embraces pain

Love is loyal to God's Truth first

Love is loyal to personal truth next

Love NEVER does what is demanded

Love NEVER lies

Love requires adherence to principles

Love places its own requirements

Love is only loyal to Truth & Love itself

Love cannot be loyal to fear

Love often requires repentance or sorrow

Love always recognizes an error

Love always admits the error

### Comparison Of What Love Feels Like (Session 4)

Examples of what the world believes love feels like

World's Viewpoint

Love always feels pleasurable

Love always feels satisfying

Love feels like family

Love feels comforting

Love is preventing another's painful feelings

God's Truth

Love often 'feels bad' due to Love confronting emotional injuries within

Since Love comes with the Truth, the Truth associated with Love is often uncomfortable

Love cannot satisfy anger or rage

Love cannot satisfy fear

Love cannot satisfy addictions

Family and Love are often incompatible

Family beliefs are confronted by Love

Love often feels discomforting

Love often feels confronting

Love always tells the truth about pain

Love always allows painful feelings

Love always encourages truthful feelings

