OUR FIRST GUEST IS ONE OF THE 
MOST TALENTED MEN IN THE WORLD.
HE IS A MULTI-AWARD-WINNING 
RECORDING ARTIST, FASHION 
DESIGNER AND SHOE SALESMAN.
HIS NEW ALBUM IS CALLED "YE."
PLEASE WELCOME KANYE WEST.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
♪
>> Jimmy: FIRST OF ALL -- THANKS
FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR
THE SHOES.
NOBODY EVER BRINGS ME SHOES, YOU
BROUGHT ME SHOES, THAT'S VERY 
NICE OF YOU, VERY KIND.
I'LL TELL YOU A STORY AND THIS 
IS HONESTLY TRUE.
THE LAST TIME, A FEW YEARS AGO 
YOU SENT ME A PAIR OF YEEZYS.
I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD MORE
PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK TO ME 
THAN WHEN I WAS WALKING AROUND 
IN THEM TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS
LIKE, THIS IS CRAZY, I'VE GOT TO
GET THESE OFF, PEOPLE ARE 
CHASING ME.
I'M WORRIED PEOPLE ARE GOING TO 
BEAT ME UP AND TAKE THESE.
USUALLY PEOPLE WAIT -- I'VE SEEN
THEM SLEEPING ON THE STREET 
WAITING FOR THESE SHOES.
IS THAT FOR YOU MORE REWARDING 
THAN HEARING PEOPLE SAY THEY 
LIKE YOUR MUSIC?
>> BOTH. 
>> Jimmy: IT'S BOTH, YEAH.
SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE THE THING 
YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TO HEARING 
AND YOU START HEARING SOMETHING 
ELSE, AND IT'S MORE EXCITING TO 
HEAR SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT NOT FOR YOU. 
>> YEAH, WHEN YOU GO OUT AND DO 
CREATIVE JOURNEYS, IT IS 
EXCITING FOR PEOPLE TO 
APPRECIATE THAT. 
>> Jimmy: YEAH. 
>> ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE, YOU 
KNOW, DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS 
POSSIBLE.
LIKE WHEN I STARTED OFF IN 
CHICAGO AS AN ARTIST.
AS A -- I'M A VISUAL ARTIST, I 
WENT TO ART SCHOOL. 
>> Jimmy: RIGHT. 
>> AND I DECIDED TO START DOING 
MUSIC AND PEOPLE SAID IT 
WOULDN'T WORK OUT.
THEN I STARTED PRODUCING AND 
SELLING BEATS AND I STARTED 
SELLING BEATS TO JAY-Z, ROCKA 
FELLA AND THAT WENT WELL.
I SAID I WANTED TO RAP AND 
PEOPLE SAID THAT WOULDN'T WORK, 
PRODUCER RAPPER, IT MEANT YOU 
WOULDN'T RAP AS WELL AS THE REAL
RAPPERS.
THAT STARTED WORKING OUT.
I SAID I WANTED TO DESIGN CLOSES
AND THAT STARTED WORKING OUT.
>> Jimmy: WHAT'S THE NEXT -- 
WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU?
>> WELL -- 
>> Jimmy: SPACE FORCE?
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
>> I WOULD TOTALLY BE INVOLVED. 
>> Jimmy: YOU SHOULD DESIGN THE 
UNIFORMS FOR THE SPACE FORCE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD
DO IF PRESIDENT TRUMP ASKED YOU 
TO DO THAT?
>> I'M INTO DESIGNING. 
>> Jimmy: YEAH, WHY NOT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
YOUR WIFE WAS HERE LAST WEEK -- 
>> SPACE FORCE!
>> Jimmy: OH MY GOODNESS.
SOMEBODY PUT A LEASH ON HIM, 
WILL YOU?
YOUR WIFE WAS HERE LAST WEEK.
AND SHE'S VERY NICE.
AND SHE DID SOMETHING I WOULD 
IMAGINE YOU'RE VERY PROUD OF.
SHE WENT TO WASHINGTON, SHE 
SPOKE TO THE PRESIDENT, AND SHE 
ACTUALLY CONVINCED HIM TO GRANT 
CLEMENCY TO A WOMAN WHO GOT LIFE
IN PRISON, LIKE REAL LIFE IN 
PRISON, FOR A FIRST-TIME DRUG 
OFFENSE.
WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU DISCUSSED
WITH HER BEFORE SHE DID IT?
>> SHE'S SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT 
IT.
AND IT WAS AMAZING FOR TO SEE 
THAT DREAM COME TRUE. 
>> Jimmy: WERE YOU EVER 
CONCERNED ABOUT HER BEING ALONE 
IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH 
PRESIDENT TRUMP?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WELL, HE IS A PLAYER.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
>> Jimmy: PEOPLE GOT REALLY MAD 
WHEN YOU WERE -- WELL, SOME 
PEOPLE WERE VERY HAPPY WHEN YOU 
SAID YOU LIKED PRESIDENT TRUMP.
DO YOU LIKE -- DO YOU THINK HE 
IS A GOOD PRESIDENT?
>> YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ME -- CAN
I ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION?
>> Jimmy: ANSWER WHATEVER YOU 
WANT. 
>> WELL, YOU KNOW -- IT'S FUNNY,
YOU KNOW.
IN THIS WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN, 
THERE'S TWO MAIN MOTIVATING 
FORCES.
AND I TWEET ABOUT IT ALL THE 
TIME.
IT'S LOVE OR FEAR.
AND YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN LOVE.
YOU KNOW, MY COUSIN IS LOCKED UP
FOR MURDER.
AND I LOVE HIM.
SO HE DID A BAD THING BUT I 
STILL LOVE HIM.
AND JUST AS A MUSICIAN, 
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, GUY OUT IN 
HOLLYWOOD, ALL THESE DIFFERENT 
THINGS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE 
AROUND ME TRIED TO PICK MY 
CANDIDATE FOR ME.
AND THEN TOLD ME EVERY TIME I 
SAID I LIKED TRUMP THAT I 
COULDN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD OR MY 
CAREER WOULD BE OVER, I'D GET 
KICKED OUT OF THE BLACK 
COMMUNITY BECAUSE BLACKS ARE 
SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MONOLITHIC 
THOUGHT, WE CAN ONLY BE 
DEMOCRATS AND ALL.
SO -- EVEN WHEN I SAID IT RIGHT 
BEFORE I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL 
AND I EXPRESSED MYSELF, AND WHEN
I CAME OUT I HAD LOST MY 
CONFIDENCE.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE 
TO TAKE ON THE WORLD AND THE 
POSSIBLE BACKLASH.
AND IT TOOK ME A YEAR AND A HALF
TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO STAND 
UP AND PUT ON THE HAT.
NO MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES 
WERE.
AND WHAT IT REPRESENTED TO ME IS
NOTHING ABOUT POLICIES BECAUSE 
I'M NOT A POLITICIAN LIKE THAT, 
BUT IT REPRESENTED OVERCOMING 
FEAR AND DOING WHAT YOU FELT, NO
MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAID, IN 
SAYING, YOU CAN'T BULLY ME.
LIBERALS CAN'T BULLY ME, NEWS 
CAN'T BULLY ME, THE HIP-HOP 
COMMUNITY, THEY CAN'T BULLY ME.
AT THAT POINT, IF I'M AFRAID TO 
BE ME, I'M NO LONGER YE.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES YE.
I ACTUALLY QUITE ENJOY WHEN 
PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE MAD AT ME 
ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS -- 
>> Jimmy: YOU MUST ENJOY IT, 
YEAH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> I ACTUALLY QUITE ENJOY IT. 
>> Jimmy: BECAUSE YOUR WIFE WAS 
MAD AT YOU, RIGHT?
ACCORDING TO YOUR SONG, YOUR 
WIFE WAS UPSET ABOUT THAT.
>> RIGHT OR WRONG, OR EVEN IF I 
CHANGE MY MIND ABOUT IT OR 
THOUGHT ABOUT IT MORE, WHICH I'M
NOT SAYING I DID -- JUST PLACE 
THE THOUGHT OUT THERE THAT 
EVERYONE'S BAD THINKING 
SOMETIMES.
GALILEO, THEY WENT TO CHOP HIS 
HEAD OFF FOR SAYING THAT THE 
EARTH -- WHAT DID HE SAY?
THE SUN REVOLVED AROUND THE 
EARTH?
VICE VERSA. 
>> Jimmy: RIGHT. 
>> SO WHEN YOU HAVE MODERN -- 
>> Jimmy: BUT THE SUN -- 
>> I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE 
SPECIFICS, SIR.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Jimmy: RIGHT, RIGHT.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
>> Jimmy: DO YOU EVER REGRET 
ANYTHING YOU SAY?
OR IS IT JUST -- YOU LOOK AT IT 
LIKE, HEY, I PUT IT OUT THERE, 
IT'S OUT THERE, THERE'S NO POINT
IN REGRETTING IT?
>> I THINK PEOPLE FOCUS TOO MUCH
ON THE PAST AND FOCUS TOO MUCH 
ON REGRET.
EVEN LIKE WHEN YOU DEAL WITH 
SCHOOLS.
LIKE YOU TAKE LIKE THE SLAVE 
IDEA.
MY POINT IS, I'VE HEARD OF 
HISTORY CLASS.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A CLASS THAT
BREAKS DOWN HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, 
BALANCE A CHECKBOOK OR HOW YOU 
CONTROL YOUR FINANCES, WHICH MY 
FATHER NEVER TAUGHT ME THAT.
AND I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A FUTURE
CLASS.
SO THEY KEEP US SO FOCUSED ON 
HISTORY THAT WE START TO BELIEVE
THAT IT ACTUALLY REPEATS ITSELF.
AND WE BECOME OVERLY 
TRADITIONAL.
AND WE CAN'T ADVANCE AS A RACE 
OF BEINGS.
WE GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THE PAST
AND WHAT EVERYONE'S SAYING AND 
WHAT EVERYONE'S TWEETING.
AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO 
BE FEARLESS ENOUGH TO BREAK THE 
[ BLEEP ] SIMULATION.
WHEN I SAY SIMULATION, THAT'S 
WHAT I MEAN BY S♪IMULATION.
SORRY, I KNOW YOU GUYS WANTED TO
CLAP BUT EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO
SAY IS GOING TO BE AMAZING.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
HERE'S THE IDEA WHY YOU'RE IN A 
SIMULATION.
LET'S START WITH ACTING, FIRST 
OF ALL.
A 2-YEAR-OLD SCREAMS AT A 
RESTAURANT, THE ENTIRE 
RESTAURANT SCREAMS, TEACH THAT 
KID HOW TO ACT.
WE'RE ALL UNPAID ACTORS IN SOME 
GIANT SCRIPT THAT WE DIDN'T 
WRITE.
SIMULATION.
A 2-YEAR-OLD JUMPS ON A COFFEE 
TABLE AND SOMEONE SAYS, THAT'S A
COFFEE TABLE, DON'T JUMP ON 
THAT.
SO IT WENT FROM BEING SOMETHING 
THAT MAKES HIM FEEL LIKE 
SUPERMAN, HE'S GOT HIS CAPE ON, 
TO SOMETHING WHERE HE HAS TO 
THINK ABOUT IN THE PERSON'S LIKE
A FAMILY MEMBER, HE'S 2 YEARS 
OLD, DOESN'T GIVE A [ BLEEP ] 
ABOUT A COFFEE OR A TABLE.
HE'S STARTING TO LIKE CALCULATE 
ALL THESE THINGS.
BY THE TIME YOU'RE 40 YEARS OLD 
YOU'VE GOT A WALL FULL OF COFFEE
TABLES CALCULATING YOU INTO 
CLA
TRAFFIC, CALCULATING YOU INTO 
YOUR CAREER CHOICE, CALCULATING 
YOU INTO THIS TOWNHOUSE THAT'S 
NOT QUITE AS BIG AS THE 
TOWNHOUSE NEXT AND IT JUST NEVER
WORKS.
THAT'S THE SIMULATION THAT I'M 
TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY 
SIMULATION.
>> Jimmy: I THINK I UNDERSTAND 
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT I MIGHT NOT.
BUT ALSO MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T WANT
THE KID TO GET HURT JUMPING ON 
THE COFFEE TABLE, YOU KNOW?
>> WE ARE TOO PROTECTIVE.
WE ALWAYS DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO 
GET HURT.
CAN YOU IMAGINE ME TALKING TO MY
PUBLICIST BEFORE I SAY I'M GOING
ON TV AGAIN?
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> Jimmy: YOU SHOULD BE WEARING 
A HELMET.
>> I'M GOING ON TV BECAUSE IT'S 
AWESOME.
I LOVE JIMMY.
WE CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT AND NOT A DIATRIBE, 
YOU KNOW.
IT'S LIKE WE CAN -- I GOT THAT 
FROM SARAH JESSICA PARKER. 
>> Jimmy: IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
SHOUT-OUT.
SHOUT-OUT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK 
GETS MISSED ON TMZ IS THE MAIN 
THING I WAS STRESSING IS THE 
IDEA OF TRYING LOVE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU 
KNOW -- PUSHING OUT SO MUCH HATE
AND LOVE CAN CURE SO MUCH.
JUST TO THINK, AM I MOVING IN 
LOVE?
IS THIS OUT OF LOVE?
NOT OUT OF PRIDE.
PRIDE IS A WORD PEOPLE SAY IN A 
POSITIVE CONNOTATION, BUT IT'S 
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE SEVEN DEADLY
SINS.
IT TAKES TOO MUCH OWNERSHIP.
YOU CAN REPLACE PRIDE WITH LOVE.
AND WHEN I SEE PEOPLE JUST EVEN 
LIKE GO AT THE PRESIDENT, IT'S 
LIKE, WHY NOT TRY LOVE?
FOR ONE PERSON TO STAND UP 
AGAINST ALL ODDS AND JUST HUG 
SOMEBODY THE WAY THAT ALICE 
JOHNSON HUGGED HER FAMILY WHEN 
SHE GOT OUT OF JAIL.
THAT ONE BY ONE BY ONE WE CAN 
DEFUSE THIS NUCLEAR BOMB OF HATE
THAT WE'RE IN AS A SOCIETY BY 
THINKING OF EVERYONE AS OUR 
FAMILY.
AND HOW WOULD WE TREAT OUR KIDS?
HOW WOULD WE TREAT -- 
>> Jimmy: IPY THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL
THOUGHT BUT IN LITERAL TERMS 
THERE ARE FAMILIES BEING TORN 
APART AT THE BORDER OF THIS 
COUNTRY.
THERE ARE LITERALLY FAMILIES 
BEING TORN APART AS A RESULT OF 
WHAT THIS PRESIDENT IS DOING.
AND I THINK THAT WE CANNOT 
FORGET THAT, WHETHER WE LIKE HIS
PERSONALITY OR NOT, HIS ACTIONS 
ARE REALLY WHAT MATTER.
I MEAN, YOU SO FAMOUSLY AND SO 
POWERFULLY SAID, GEORGE BUSH 
DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE.
IT MAKES ME WONDER WHAT MAKES 
YOU THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP 
DOES, OR ANY PEOPLE AT ALL?
WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK, WE'LL
COME BACK, AND KANYE WEST IS 
HERE!
HIS ALBUM IS CALLED "YE."
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
KANYE WEST.
WE JUST GOT THIS MAGAZINE.
"BAZAAR" MAGAZINE.
THERE YOU ARE WITH THE KIDS.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY CUTE.
CLIMBING ON YOUR HEAD.
DO YOU DRESS THEM?
DO YOU DRESS THEM?
DO YOU PICK THEIR OUTFITS?
>> UH-HUH. 
>> Jimmy: YOU DO?
IS THAT FUN FOR YOU?
>> UH-HUH. 
>> Jimmy: DO YOU DESIGN OUTFITS 
FOR THEM?
>> UH-HUH. 
>> Jimmy: YOU DO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
DO THEY LOVE THAT?
>> YES. 
>> Jimmy: DO THEY UNDERSTAND 
THAT PROCESS, THAT YOU DRAW 
SOMETHING AND IT BECOMES THEIR 
CLOTHES?
>> MY DAUGHTER WENT TO A FASHION
CAMP FOR FIVE DAYS A COUPLE 
WEEKS AGO.
AND I VISITED HER, AND WE PUT --
TOGETHER WE PUT THE THREAD 
THROUGH THE SEWING MACHINE.
AND IT REALLY BROUGHT ME TO 
TEARS TO THINK ABOUT THE 15 
YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON 
APPAREL AND FOR MY FRIEND VIRGIL
TO BE THE HEAD OF LOUIS VUITTON,
FOR ME TO HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, 
$1.8 BILLION COMPANY OUT OF, YOU
KNOW, A THREAD GOING THROUGH.
AND SHE -- MY DAUGHTER ASKED ME,
DADDY, DO YOU HAVE A SEWING 
MACHINE LIKE THIS AT YOUR 
OFFICE?
AND I BROUGHT HER TO MY OFFICE.
AND SHE DID A BUNCH OF SKETCHES.
AND MY HEAD PATTERN CUTTER MADE 
HER DRESSES RIGHT THERE. 
>> Jimmy: REALLY. 
>> FOR HER.
SO SHE LOVES COMING TO THE 
OFFICE AND DOING SKETCHES. 
>> Jimmy: BOY, THAT'S SO MUCH 
MORE FUN THAN MY DAD'S OFFICE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
ONE OF THE SONGS ON YOUR ALBUM 
IS ABOUT -- YOU'RE IN THE SONG, 
CORRECT ME IF I HAVE ANY OF THIS
WRONG.
YOU'RE IMAGINING YOUR DAUGHTER 
AS AN ADULT DATING AND MEN 
LOOKING AT HER.
>> UH-HUH. 
>> Jimmy: AND YOU'RE VERY, VERY 
WORKED UP ABOUT THIS. 
>> UH-HUH. 
>> Jimmy: PREMATURELY SOME MIGHT
SAY.
DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
YOU THINK THAT FAR AHEAD?
>> OH, I THINK LIFETIMES AND 
LIFETIMES AHEAD.
>> Jimmy: AND THAT -- AND YOU 
ACTUALLY ARE IMAGINING LIKE GUYS
OBJECTIFYING -- DO YOU FEEL LIKE
YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS WOMEN HAS 
CHANGED SINCE HAVING DAUGHTERS?
>> NAH, I STILL LOOK AT PORN 
HUB.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
>> Jimmy: WHAT KIND OF STUFF DO 
YOU LOOK AT, WHAT CATEGORIES?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> BLACK IS MY FAVORITE 
CATEGORY.
>> Jimmy: YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO 
INTO THAT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I MEAN, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT.
>> HEY, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE POINT
OF BEING KANYE WEST IF YOU 
CAN'T?
>> Jimmy: YEAH, LET'S HAVE IT.
>> A LOT OF BLACK ON WHITE, 
OBVIOUSLY.
>> Jimmy: OH, YEAH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
IT'S MIRRORING YOUR OWN SELF, 
YOUR OWN SITUATION. 
>> MY OWN REALITY. 
>> Jimmy: RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE BUBBLY MASTURBATING IN
A WAY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 
>> HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I NEED THAT DOUBLE -- 
>> Jimmy: I'LL SHOW YOU AFTER 
THE SHOW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> NO, I DON'T WANT TO.
>> Jimmy: YOU HAVE SOME REALLY 
HEAVY SONGS.
ONE OF THEM IS CALLED "I THOUGHT
ABOUT KILLING YOU."
IS THAT SONG ABOUT SOMEBODY IN 
PARTICULAR?
AND IS IT ME?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> YOU KNOW, SOMEONE E-MAILED ME
AFTER THAT SONG CAME OUT AND 
SAID THAT THEY HAD -- THEIR MOM 
HAD PASSED AWAY AND THAT THEY 
HAD TAKEN 60 PILLS.
AND THAT THEY TRIED TO KILL 
THEMSELVES.
AND THEY WROTE AT THE END OF IT,
"PREMEDITATED MURDER."
SO IT'S -- 
>> Jimmy: AND THAT IS A REFRAIN,
YOU SAY PREMEDITATED MURDER.
THAT CAME FROM SOMEBODY WRITING 
YOU?
>> NO.
AFTER THE SONG CAME OUT. 
>> Jimmy: AFTER. 
>> BUT SAYING THAT THIS PERSON 
TAKING THESE PILLS AND TRYING TO
KILL THEMSELVES WAS A FORM OF 
PREMEDITATED MURDER.
>> Jimmy: SURE. 
>> AND WHAT I SAID IS LIKE, 
PEOPLE ARE SO AFRAID TO FACE 
WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING 
WITH, WHETHER IT'S OPIOID 
ADDICTION, WHETHER IT'S SUICIDE,
WHETHER IT'S ALL THESE THINGS.
WE JUST WANT TO LIKE -- WE WANT 
TO PUT A PATINA ON IT AND NOT 
FACE IT.
AND I THINK THE BREAK THROUGH 
FOR THAT ALBUM FOR ME -- I DON'T
DO OLD VERSIONS OF MUSIC, I'M 
LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING NEW.
THE BREAKTHROUGH WAS TO BE ABLE 
TO HAVE A SONG CALLED "I THOUGHT
ABOUT KILLING YOU" IN THIS LIKE 
SUPER-PC, HOLLYWOOD, YOU CAN'T 
SAY NOTHING WRONG DAY AND AGE.
IT'S LIKE, KANYE WEST'S FIRST 
SONG 80 THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING 
YOU" AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THE 
THOUGHTS.
THE OTHER DAY I TWEETED HOW TO 
NOT KILL YOURSELF PART 1.
WHEN YOU'RE AN ARTIST AND YOU'RE
CREATIVE AND YOU WANT TO GIVE SO
MUCH TO THE WORLD AGAINST ALL 
ODDS THERE'S TIMES WHEN YOU CAN 
GO INTO THAT PLACE.
>> Jimmy: CORRECT ME IF I'M 
WRONG, BUT THE HOW TO WAS, DON'T
BE AROUND PEOPLE WHO MAKE YOU 
WANT TO KILL YOURSELF, RIGHT?
>> YES. 
>> Jimmy: YEAH.
GOOD ADVICE.
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE.
I WAS INSPIRED AFTER SEEING THIS
ALEXANDER McQUEEN FILM.
THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL, AMAZING 
ARTIST THAT KILLED HIMSELF.
HE'D ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT.
HE DESIGNED HIS OWN BASKET.
I THOUGHT ABOUT A TOMBSTONE THAT
SAID "ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?"
>> Jimmy: IT'S FUNNY BUT NOT 
FUNNY, REALLY, THOUGH. 
>> YEAH. 
>> Jimmy: BECAUSE, YOU KNOW -- 
WHEN YOU HAVE THOUGHTS LIKE 
THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND
TALK TO PEOPLE. 
>> YEAH.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL -- 
WELL, NOT BE CAREFUL.
JUST BE EXPRESSIVE AND 
UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE
ARE SENSITIVE PEOPLE.
LIKE YOU GET THESE CELEBRITIES 
AND THEY GET A BAD PHOTO AND 
EVERYONE JUST TEARS THEM ALL THE
WAY TO SHREDS AND YOU FORGET 
THIS IS A DAUGHTER, A SON, A 
MOM, A DAD.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK I FIGHT 
FOR -- I FIGHT FOR ALL OF US. 
>> Jimmy: YOU HAVE A LOT OF 
EMPATHY, I GUESS, IF THAT'S THE 
WAY YOU'RE THINKING. 
>> I DO.
I DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY.
>> Jimmy: YEAH, ALL RIGHT.
>>> WE'RE BACK WITH KANYE WEST.
THIS IS HIS ALBUM CALLED "YE."
A BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPH.
YOU RECORDED THIS IN JACKSON 
HOLE, WYOMING.
YOU PUT OUT FIVE OTHER ALBUMS 
WITH OTHER ARTISTS THAT YOU 
PRODUCED BASICALLY WITHIN LIKE, 
WHAT, A MONTH-LONG PERIOD OF 
TIME.
THAT'S A TON OF WORK.
ARE YOU LIKE -- ARE YOU A 
WORKAHOLIC?
ARE YOU ALWAYS WORKING?
>> NO, I ACTUALLY SLEPT A LOT 
DURING THE PROJECT.
>> Jimmy: WHILE THEY WERE 
RECORDING?
>> YEAH.
I HAVE A TEAM, WE WORKED 
TOGETHER.
I SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF AFTER 
I GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
AND I WOULD GO TO AMOEBA RECORD 
STORE AND START CHOPPING UP 
SAMPLES.
IT'S VERY THERAPEUTIC BECAUSE I 
WASN'T FULL YE -- I DON'T KNOW 
IF I'M FULL YE NOW, BETTER OR 
WORSE OR WHATEVER.
BUT IT WAS THERAPEUTIC JUST TO 
LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS AND SAMPLE
AND GO BACK TO BEING 14 YEARS 
OLD AT MY MOM'S HOUSE.
AND BY THE TIME IT'S TIME TO 
DO -- TO PUT THE ALBUMS OUT, WE 
HAVE A WHOLE TEAM AT YEEZY SOUND
THAT WILL HELP COME AND DO THE 
DRUMS, HELP WITH LYRICS, HELP 
WITH CHORUSES.
I HAD TO GIVE LIKE SIX, SEVEN 
PEOPLE IDEAS THAT I WANT ON THE 
SONG.
AND I'D JUST GO TO SLEEP AND 
JUST WAIT FOR THEM -- 
>> Jimmy: THEM WORKING WHILE YOU
SLEEP, THAT'S A HARD WORKER 
RIGHT THERE. 
>> I FEEL LIKE YOU AVOIDED THIS 
ALBUM TITLE. 
>> Jimmy: OH, YEAH, I DON'T -- 
"I HATE BEING BIPOLAR, IT'S 
AWESOME."
I HAVE A THEORY ABOUT YOU, TELL 
ME IF THIS IS CORRECT.
I FEEL YOU FEEL BY BEING BIPOLAR
IS PART WHAT WAS MAKES YOU 
BRILLIANT, PART OF WHAT MAKES 
YOU YOU, AND YOU EMBRACE IT. 
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER 
ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE
ARE LIKE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO 
TALK ABOUT IT?
THE FUNNY THING IS, THIS IS 
SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE ON THE 
INTERNET BEFORE.
IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY.
BUT IT'S NOT AN OPPOSITE.
IT'S NOT I HATE BEING BIPOLAR.
IT'S AWESOME.
IT ACTUALLY DRIVES MORE OF HOW 
YOU REALLY FEEL.
IT DOESN'T DO THE OPPOSITE 
THING.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO
HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU 
KNOW -- OPEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
MENTAL HEALTH.
ESPECIALLY WITH ME BEING BLACK.
BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD THERAPISTS 
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
WE NEVER APPROACHED LIKE TAKE A 
MEDICATION.
I THINK IT'S GOOD WHEN I HAD MY 
FIRST COMPLETE BLACKOUT AT AGE 
5, MY MOM DIDN'T FULLY MEDICATE 
ME.
BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE NEVER BEEN 
YE.
AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE AT LEAST
I'M HAPPY THAT I KNOW.
LIKE EVEN LIKE FOR THIS 
INTERVIEW, I KNEW I WANTED TO 
STAY IN A EQUAL STATE.
BECAUSE BY THE TIME I GOT TO TMZ
I WAS RAMPED UP.
WHAT WAS AWESOME IS THE WORLD 
GOT TO REALLY EXPERIENCE SOMEONE
IN A RAMPED-UP STATE.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THESE 
COMMENTS THAT JUST SHOOT OUT, 
ALMOST LIKE TOURETTE'S. 
>> Jimmy: BECAUSE YOU HAVE HIGHS
AND LOWS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH, YOU'RE ON 
A ROLL.
WHEN YOU HAVE A LOW, YOU'RE NOT?
>> WELL, THERE'S SOME CASES OF 
BIPOLAR WHERE PEOPLE GO LOW.
I'M ONE THAT GOES HIGH. 
>> Jimmy: I SEE. 
>> LIKE MICHELLE OBAMA SAID, GO 
HIGH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
?
YOU DON'T HAVE EXTREME PERIODS 
OF DEPRESSION?
>> OH, NO.
BECAUSE I JUST SAY IT.
I SAY IT ON REAL TV.
OH, I THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING 
MYSELF.
THEN THE THOUGHT IS GONE. 
>> Jimmy: SO ALL PEOPLE NEED TO 
DO IS GET ON TV, THAT'S REALLY 
THE SOLUTION. 
>> THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO 
EXPRESS THEMSELVES WITHOUT FEAR 
OF JUDGMENT.
WHAT I LOVE TELLING PEOPLE IS 
LIKE, WHO DO YOU KNOW -- YEAH, 
ESPECIALLY BLACK MEN.
YOU KNOW, I'M 41 YEARS OLD.
AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE, YOU 
KNOW, THAT [ BLEEP ]ED UP AS 
MUCH AS I HAVE THAT'S STILL AS 
SUCCESSFUL.
I WANT TO PROVE THAT YOU COULD 
GET FAT, YOU COULD SAY THE WRONG
THINGS, YOU CAN PISS A WHOLE 
[ BLEEP ] CITY OFF -- 
>> Jimmy: AND BE PRESIDENT OF 
THE UNITED STATES. 
>> WELL -- YEAH.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
>> Jimmy: THERE'S ONE PERSON.
KANYE WEST, EVERYBODY.
THIS IS HIS ALBUM.
IT'S CALLED "YE."
