Now you have not watched the video of that day.
No, sir.
Tell me,
do you plan to watch that?
Is it just something you just simply can't
bring yourself to see?
I don't think I'll ever watch it.
You just don't think you ever will?
No.
So tell me how it has been described to you?
That he was running.
The hardest part is when,
I was told that he looked very confused
when he was approaching the truck that was parked
waiting on him to, to arrive
and he had no clue that he was getting ready to be killed.
Well Wanda,
I have to say to you
and and to Lee as well
as someone that works in the behavioral sciences
and someone that is very attuned to
body language and everything from microaggressions,
to full out aggressive behavior.
I have watched this video frame by frame, by frame, by frame
and I can,
I would love to share with you my thoughts
about the whole thing if you want to hear them.
But I can tell you this,
in reading the body language,
I did not see one
single characteristic, trait, or behavior
on the part of Ahmaud that was threatening, aggressive
or in any way something that would cause someone
to believe that they were in danger.
It just to, to suggest otherwise
when anybody that knows how to read body language
is trained in this,
that just simply doesn't wash.
He was not, in my opinion,
being aggressive, confrontive,
or in any way provocative with with these people at all.
Yes sir.
For what it's worth,
I'd actually would like to hear more about that
in terms of what you did observe in the video.
Well, I would be glad to talk about it,
and it seems to me that when, when you look at this, you're
first off, you're in broad daylight
and you're in a very open area,
so the ability
for these, these men
to avoid the pathway of Ahmaud
so that their ability to avoid confronting him was,
was infinite.
Now of course I understand their story
as they were making a citizen's arrest.
What I don't understand is, for what?
And there are behaviors that are consistent
with fleeing criminals.
Those that are trying to evade detection,
evade, capture.
None of this was apparent in his body language,
in his characteristics, and Wanda, I'm sorry to say,
he did seem confused because all of a sudden there's a truck
blocking his pathway.
Do I go left? Do I go right?
I mean, exactly.
What am I going to do here?
This was not something where he's,
he's gonna go up and confront these men or this man
for being in his pathway.
It's like, what do I, what am I,
what's going on here?
How do I get out of this box here?
This was not something where when you're aggressive,
you take attack, you move directly towards a target,
you engage that target and you, you try to overpower them.
There was nothing like that in his behavior
or characteristics.
And I'm curious to hear what,
you have to say about his personality overall.
