
Japanese: 
1970年代から多大な影響を与えてきた
灰野さんの活動を
網羅はできませんが
新作や肝となる活動について伺います
通訳は最小限です　お互いが理解しやすいよう
発言は短く区切ってください
拍手でお迎えください　灰野敬二さんです

Japanese: 
今の演奏で表現されていたのは
単に機械で作られたものだけが
新しい音楽ではないという発想ですか？

English: 
Yes, exactly.
I played this for you today
because what you believe to be electronics,
is not precise.
You cannot listen to
all the elements of electronics.
To be able to listen to them all,
you have to train your ears.
We have to know where overtones go,
or where sound wants to travel to.
What I mean by that is
sound would never want to sit still,
in my own idea.
I moved my hands like this.
Because I feel sound wants to move
to various directions freely.

Japanese: 
支配したくないというのは興味深いです
音を“作る”という音楽家はよくいますが
音を支配したくないという点を
詳しく聞かせてください

English: 
I should not dominate
the natural sound if possible.
[To the simultaneous translator] Your voice is interrupted.
I think the microphone of the translator is not working properly.
[To the simultaneous translator] I can hear now, but sometimes it is interrupted.
It is fine now.

Japanese: 
機械で音を作る人にとっては特に気になる話ですね
空気が必要というのは
単に音が空気で振動するというだけでなく
深い意味があるのですか？

English: 
Sound is made when it is emitted in the air.
If you think you can hear it on computers,
you are just brainwashed to believe so.
Sound needs to be exposed to the air -- 
to be experienced or to be embodied.
Otherwise you can't  find out
where sound itself wants to travel to.
I believe each sound has its own will. 
And I only want to help it just a little bit.
This is why I play like this.

English: 
Indeed. This instrument itself is
very unique.
Even if I mute it to a certain extent,
the sound differs...
Well, it is hard to explain.
When I hit a tone, or a disc,
but depending on where you hit,
Baion, which is translated to
overtones or maybe harmonics,
would sound differently with this instrument.
It creates different overtones.
So even if I mute one tone,
only one overtone is muted.

English: 
But you can't mute the rest of other overtones it creates.
So when the two or three overtones are mixed,
they swell, so to speak.
One is guitar.
So-called guitars and some string instruments
like lute and oud.

Japanese: 
なるほど この話題だけで
１時間は盛り上がれそうですね
次に多様な音楽活動についてお尋ねします
約80の楽器を奏でるそうですが
いくつかご紹介いただけますか？

English: 
Of the lutes, I play Renaissance lute
and Baroque lute and orpharion.
There are just too many to pick up...
If you had told me a week ago,
I could have brought the list.
It is hard to pick them up without preparation.
Hurdy-gurdy, cymbal.
There are several types of cymbals.
For example waterphone,
a kind of experimental musical instrument.
A special metal made by NASA
is used to make energy chimes.
Now I remember 
how things are put in my room.
Next to it, there is chakhe from Thailand.

English: 
It is similar to Japanese koto.
I have already picked up ten or so.
Um... electric tambour,
Shruti box. I have both
electric and acoustic.
And many more.
If I can count flutes and pipes too,
I have about 20 of them.
For instance, launeddas from Sardinia, Italy.
I put three reed pipes in my mouth
to play them at the same time.
The sound is a bit similar to a bagpipe.
Then Slovakian... should I go on?
Slovakian fujara,
maybe the longest flute in the world.
It is about 1.8 meter.

English: 
Should I go further?
Yes, it is.
Learning is not an option.
It will never be.
How I meet instruments is,
I find musical instrument stores
when I travel around.
I wonder how I play 
the instruments in the window.
Then I approach the shops
and ask the instruments,
"Are you gonna come to my home?"
If they say yes, I buy them.

Japanese: 
長い笛ですね
具体的な楽器がよく分かりました
では楽器へのアプローチについて
演奏法を正しく学習したいですか？
もしくは楽器でできることを探究しますか？

Japanese: 
連れて帰ってほしがる楽器を
選ぶコツはありますか？

English: 
My guarantee is all gone like this.
No, I simply find such instruments.
So sometimes I struggle with such instruments
to find out how to play them for a while.
By blowing, drumming, or playing.
I gradually hear their sound.
I really enjoy such moments.

Japanese: 
話しかけて自分から知ろうとするという方法で
楽器にアプローチするのはなぜですか？

English: 
I just want to enjoy that.
If I try to learn how to play instruments,
I cannot fully express what
the instruments want me to do and maximize
their possibilities.
For instance, 
how I played this instrument,
like this. The way I play could be
how they originally wanted us to play.
But when it is played by learned players,
for example someone who plays the vibes
would just hit it like this.
They play this just to sound musical scales,

English: 
and say rhythm can also make melody.
They would treat this instrument like that.
I want to maximize
this instrument's original sound.
In other words, there is no wrong tone
to be played.
If you go to a drum lesson, for example,
then you would be taught
to hit a very precise spot
to get the very best of it.
"Everything else is a wrong tone."
I hate being taught like that.
I believe that a professional should be able to
incorporate even bad hit sounds.
If you can pick those bad hit sounds
and let them be a part of your music,
I think instruments themselves will be happy.

Japanese: 
楽器が本来の姿という観点からのお話は
とても興味深かったです
可能性を引き出せば
笛がドラムにもなり得るということですね

English: 
Do you mean the instrument itself?
In most languages, 
they are called instruments,
namely tools, 
as we use them to do something.
But if players regard instruments
as a part of ourselves,
they would sound the way
even the instruments never expected.

English: 
To me, both loud sound and quiet sound,
always exist within myself.
The band name Fushitsusha,

Japanese: 
つまり灰野さんが音へ
影響を与えているともいえますが
音から受ける影響について伺います
先週の“Wails to Whispers”では
非常に大音量の演奏を披露し
直後のハーディガーディによる30分間の演奏は
非常に穏やかで黙想的でした
こうした音の変化により どんな影響を受けますか？

Japanese: 
激しい音から穏やかな音に
切り替えるのは難しいですか？

English: 
accidentally appeared on the flyer at that event but...
I dared to make even louder,
harder and faster music.
After making the loud sounds,
I made quiet sounds with the hurdy-gurdy.
But to me these different sides are just
a strong point and a weak point
in the dynamic range.
Therefore what I need for music, for me, is
every aspect of the dynamic range.
So that was just an example.

English: 
Not at all. I enjoy it.
If I explain this in other words,
having listeners gives me strength, in a sense.
It gives me strength 
in a positive way.
It does not matter
whether the sound is loud or quiet.
Sometimes PA system or amplifiers
can change from a loud sound to a quiet sound.
But both quiet and loud sounds
are always together in my case.
What I do in Fushitsusha,
especially in recent works, is 
play loud music and quiet music by turns.

Japanese: 
つまり大きな音と小さな音の多様性が
いつも共存しているんですね
では… 失礼　続けますか？

English: 
There are all sorts of dynamic ranges, as I said.
But we are trying to show
the paradox at the same time.
So, on that day, 
you listened to them separately.
Yes.
It is a kind of a repetition, but
strength is simple,
whether there is strength or not.
Then it will be up to listeners.

Japanese: 
では次にインプロビゼーションについて伺います
この言葉がお好きでないのは…
はい この言葉が
適切に使われておらず
お好きでないのは承知してます

English: 
It depends on the listener's situation,
environment and mental state.
When you listen to music through headphones,
you may feel loud.
But when you remove it 
and put it on a table,
the sound will be so quiet
that you can barely hear.
Therefore it depends on how listeners would
catch or accept the sound after all.
Whether it is loud or quiet...
I mean, loud and quiet have such a relationship.
That is my idea.
Improvisation, right?

Japanese: 
灰野さんの音楽は常にその場で生まれる
新しい作品なのでしょうか？
インプロビゼーション
つまり即興の定義を捉えるためにも
お聞かせ願えますか？

English: 
When I played at Super Deluxe, I had an interview.
I also told the interviewer this.
When the word "improvise"
was imported in Japan,
it was misunderstood for some reason.
Maybe that happened
because of the impression of the word,
or how cool it sounded at that time.
It fell into something fashionable for eggheads.

English: 
From two or three years ago,
I started using my own word for that.
I translated improvise to "nazoranai"
meaning "not repeating."
I defined the word so.
When I thought about how the word originated,
and tried understanding the true nature,
I concluded that it is an action
by someone who loves music too much.
So when non-music lovers
use the word "improvisation,"
musicians in other genres
would feel the same as I feel.
I have been serious about the word.
Starting about 20 years ago, I quit interviews,
whenever the interviewers used the words
"noise," "improvise" or "avant-garde."

Japanese: 
それで「ナゾラナイ」という言葉をお使いなんですね
Stephen O'Malleyと灰野さんのバンドの
名前にもなっている言葉ですね
灰野さんの音楽は常になぞらないものなのですか？
なぞらないことに こだわるのはなぜですか？

English: 
Because they misunderstand the definition.
So now you know
how I feel about the word improvise.
I deal with the word that seriously.
Of course, yes.
I want to live each and every moment
at its best and to the fullest.

English: 
And I think that 
to regret is to repeat.
When we literally get positive,
we live every moment seriously,
very acceleratedly,
concentratedly and relaxedly.
So if we repeat, that is just...
We can get faster forever... 
let me restate.
That is stopping the coolest part of
human by ourselves,
where we can get faster forever.
Excuse me.

Japanese: 
罠に はまらないために

Japanese: 
音をなぞって格好つけないという意味ですか？
つまり灰野さんが仰りたいことは
なぞらないことで 平凡な音作りに
陥らないようにするという意味でしょうか？
ここで灰野さんの映像を
拝見してもよろしいですか？
ライブ映像です

English: 
"Fall into a trap"? 
I never use such a word.
Yes, that is correct.
Excuse me, but let me ask the audience.
Are you having fun?
Because my personal story 
could be boring. Are you okay with it?
Let me drink water.
Thank you.

Japanese: 
そうですね

English: 
It is a good idea to take a break.

Japanese: 
ここで話題を少し変えて
お聞きしたいことがあります
ご自身のDJパフォーマンスに
ついてです
灰野さんはご自身の作品にDJを
導入し
ここ数年はミックス作品も
多数発表しておられます
ご自身のDJパフォーマンスについて
お話いただけますか？

English: 
You may laugh, but
everything I do would 
automatically become my style.
There aren't any wrong notes struck.
It's up to you.
Music is an illusion.
When I DJ, I close my eyes
for almost the entire time
and pick a CD or CD-R, let's say, and then put that in to play.
Then I pick another one.
I usually use four CDJs.
But I'm a little different from others.

Japanese: 
4台のCDJと 2台のドラムマシーンを
組み合わせるのですね
では その都度CDはランダムに
選択するのですか？

English: 
I use two rhythm machines.
We call music with no beat 
"drone music."
But it also repeats sounds
at least once throughout the 78 minutes.
So, I beat out a rhythm,
or I connect some sound sources.
Almost all.
Sometimes I feel like, "I blew it."

Japanese: 
ミスは新たなアイデアを生む源泉
ということですね？
DJパフォーマンスの際に使用する
CDに含まれる楽曲についてお伺いします
これらはどういったところで
入手するのですか？

English: 
But I don't want to call it an accident.
I want to call it a new music.
I believe it as a
challenge to overcome.
That's right.
I burn my CD to CD-R.
Because...
I hold it in my mouth and throw.
I don't want to end up crying.

Japanese: 
念のため再度お伺いしたいのですが
そのCD-Rに保存する音楽は
ご自身による作品なのですね？
なるほど　ご自身の作品ではなく
収集したものを保存したCDなのですね

English: 
So I usually burn them onto CD-R discs.
I have 500 of them now.
I wasn't being clear.
All of them are my CD collection.
Sorry. Don't get me wrong.
Exactly.
I mean I don't want to scratch
my records and CDs.

English: 
That's why I use CD-R.
[To the simultaneous translator] I couldn't hear what you said.
Yes, I went to Poland and bought a CD.
If I go on a trip,
I always buy many CDs.
I came back from a trip,
and I have a favorite musician.
If you ask me the reason
why you like him,
is there anyone
who came from Poland?
I think this person is...

Japanese: 
わかりました
ではCDを買う時のことについて伺います
最近ポーランドに行ったそうですね

English: 
I learned about him
for the very first time there.
I think that sounds typical.
The Polish government declared
martial law in 1981.
People avoided radical behavior.
Because the government
clamped down on dissenting voices.
But he continued to
fight and created sounds.
I think this is his home recording.
I think so.

Japanese: 
少しここで確認します　戒厳令下の
ポーランドで作られた音楽の話ですね？
聴いてみても？
ご希望の曲はありますか？

Japanese: 
ではいきます

English: 
I only listened three of eight CDs.
I had performed a live concert
after coming Japan.
I think it's a protest song but
don't know about the lyrics.

Japanese: 
この音楽から何を感じたのか
お話いただけますか？　名前は…
…ジャック･クズモスキー
間違えていたらすみません

English: 
Well, let see...
I shouldn't say irresponsible things.
But it's a typical protest song.
"I don't want to be a cog in the wheel."
That's my understanding.
As I said, I listened to three CDs.
And I can't get enough of this music.
Not boring as music.
From his music, I think
he is a progressive and aggressive.
I think he wasn't
interested in political issues.
He's interested in
making his original music.

English: 
I've never listened to such folk songs before.
That's why I listened to his CDs.
I can't get him out of my mind.
What I consider important
when I listen to music are --
something that reaches to my heart
or something I can accept in my heart is --
foremost radical
and aggressive sounds
generally avant-garde music.
But you shouldn't be confused,
because some music may strike you as -- 
neatly composed piece
but still manages to sound fresh to me.

English: 
These are the things I listen for 
when listen to new music. 
Big sounds are a part of such music.
What do you mean?

Japanese: 
すると人々は“攻撃的なもの”や
“物議を醸し出すもの”“強力なもの”
これらを全て“ラウドな”ものだと
誤解しているとお考えですか？
ミックスCDについてもお伺いします
日本のヒップホップレーベルの
BLACK SMOKER RECORDSから
昨年ミックスCDを発表しましたが
このミックスCDに収録されているのは
どういった音楽でしょうか？
３枚出しましたね
昨年 BLACK SMOKER RECORDSから
発表したミックスCDについてです
とても素晴らしい
実験的なミックスでした
この作品で使用した音楽について…

English: 
As a matter of fact,
That title is "INORI."
Here is a little secret to reveal.
You saw three strange characters.
They are one of the characters
used in ancient Japan.
It was largely forgotten
by Japanese people.
Three characters represent
"INORI," it means pray.
That's how it works.
Black Smoker Records
presented my live performances.

Japanese: 
つまり 自宅でミックスを行い
これらを一つにまとめあげて…
例えば このミックスCDがどのように
制作されたかについては
クラブでレコーディングされたもの
ということですね？
もう一度お伺いします
このミックスCDで使われた音楽について
お話いただけますか？
通訳が入ると
難しいかもしれませんが…

English: 
"Experimental Mixture" features 
my live performances,
and didn't edit the sounds.
As I said, I didn't do
anything at my home.
All material were from my shows.
Well... CD?

English: 
Of course, I DJ and mix everything.
I use four CDJs in my live performance.
I use my live sound source.
[To the simultaneous translator] I think she doesn't understand.
Bad translator.
You mean my new CD?
It includes 21 tracks.
That turned out to be 
the title of the CD.

Japanese: 
私が理解できていないだけかも
しれません　申し訳ありません
続いて　間もなくリリースされる
新しいミックスCDについて伺います
先程このCDをくださいました
この美しい作品について
お話いただけますか？

Japanese: 
１つの作品に収めるには
膨大な情報量ですね

English: 
Total 65 minutes length.
A song, roughly three minutes.
I don't know, but it may be a hit.
This contains various sound sources.
I used over 150 CDs, let's say that's CD-R,
to put 21 songs in them.
I think it was around 150 to 200 discs.
One of the songs contains
the amount of 30 discs of data.
When people listened to a new music,
they will confuse
what is right or wrong.
It's necessary to take the next step.

Japanese: 
それを同じセットで…
今最後になんと？
それはもう聞いたわね
これを同様に4台のCDJと
2台のドラムマシーンで？
DJ NOBUと先頃共演した作品を
拝見したのですが
　DJ NOBUとの対話のような
“交差の連続”が印象的でした
灰野さんは“違う”と
仰るかもしれませんが

English: 
I'm the same for my music.
About the loudness of sounds,
please listen to loud and low sounds.
And think about the sound and music.
If you think like that,
you probably wouldn't get bored.
Yes, that's right.

English: 
It's a joint live performance.
It doesn't mean play together.
When I saw the organizer,
Nobu was also there.
Not a collaboration.

Japanese: 
私の文化圏ではこう表現します
共演に至るまでのエピソードを
聞かせてください
なるほど
私の理解では 
DJ同士の共演というものは
例えばNOBUさんが
パフォーマンスを始めて
続けて灰野さん NOBUさん
そして再び灰野さんと交互に
行うものだと思っていました
今回の共演は
どんなものでしたか？

Japanese: 
なるほど
説明をありがとうございます
共演ではなく NOBUさんの後に
パフォーマンスしたんですね
それでは次の話題に移りましょう
次に“Hardy Sound”について
お聞きしたいのですが

English: 
I'm very simple.
Hardy? Hardy Soul?
Hardy Soul requires my best condition.
It shortens my life by one year.
From a listener's view...
I mean, I put myself in their shoes.
I know my English is poor.

Japanese: 
最初にこのHardy Soulについて
説明しておきます
これはあなたがブルースを歌う
カバーバンドですね
しかも古いブルースやソウルを
歌っていますね
例えば Percy Sledgeや
Otis Redding 
そして古いブルースシンガーの曲も
ロックが灰野さんにとってのルーツの
ひとつだということは知っていますが
なぜカヴァーバンドを結成して
ブルースを歌おうを思ったのですが？

English: 
But I sing songs in English.
I'm singing song English only.
In my understanding, 
black people nowadays
don't listen to hard music so much.
It might be  -- 

English: 
because they were forced to 
soften their style to please white crowd.
But it's the power in their music that I love.
And the Black Power movement in the 1960s.
I might be using discriminatory terms...
But I wanted to remind everyone of that strength,
and myself of my own musical root.
When I was a high school student,
I was a singer of a very agressive blues band.
Singing agressive blues
led me to form Lost Aaraaff.
So blues is my root.

Japanese: 
つまり　このバンドで
自身のルーツを再確認し
人びとに音楽の力を
改めて伝えるためだと

English: 
It's simple.
I just do what I find most enjoyable.
Let me see.
This is a serious song
for Japanese people.
Of course you know "Kimigayo." [The Japanese national anthem.]
Please translate it.
I sing this song
in tenth century English.

Japanese: 
そしてそれがどのようにして
生まれたかを
聞かせていただけますか？
では10世紀の英国と Hardy Soulの
接点は何でしょうか？

English: 
This is based on a waka poem
written in the tenth century.
With that in mind, I used old English.
There's some sarcasm in it.
It's a little bit long.
If people who saw me play at Super Deluxe last weekend think of me,
I'm a guitarist. 
But in Hardy Soul,
I do nothing but sing songs.
I'm singer.
I think you can
understand what I mean.
I'm dying just to
have you play this song.

Japanese: 
もちろんです
それでは全編８分間
お聴き下さい

English: 
Around eight minutes in total.
First song.
It's a long-winded
introduction without a song.

Japanese: 
先ほどご自身の
高校時代の話を交えて
Hardy Soulは ご自身の
音楽的ルーツを振り返る為だと
お話しくださいました
先ほどご自身の
高校時代の話を交えて
Hardy Soulで
音楽的ルーツを振り返ると
音楽を始めたきっかけが
まさにドアとなったのだと
当時の日本で
そういった音楽を発見することが
難しかったのか または
容易だったのかお聞かせ下さい
例えばイギリスの場合
ロックンロール黎明期では
レコードは高価または入手困難で
誰かが買ったらそれをみんなで
シェアしていました

Japanese: 
日本ではいかがでしたか？

English: 
I had a hard time.
I don't know how it was in England
but in Japan,
there were no CDs yet. 
Instead, I bought LP records.
In 1968,
they're sold at the same price today.
That is to say,
they were very expensive in those days.
It's all history in Japan.
In the 1950s,
LP records had already cost 2000 yen.

English: 
They cost a fortune.
In my early teens,
I could only buy 7-inch singles.
I couldn't get much pocket money.
I think it's the same story in England.
I listened to some radio programs
at morning and at night.
Open reel record?
I'm sorry. I forgot the name.
Anyway, I recorded the radio
into my tape recorder.

Japanese: 
イギリスでは レコードがある家に
みんなが集まって聴くという
“レコードコンサート”がありました
　日本ではいかがでしたか？

English: 
I listened to music.
I was in a worse situation.
I began to listening
rock music at age 12.
My generation was
the baby boom generation.
There were many classmates.
About 45 students in a class.
My school had
ten classes in each grade.
I think, in each grade,

Japanese: 
それで 1970年代初期に
新宿に行き着いたんですね

English: 
less than five students 
listened to rock.
Listening to anything
except Japanese music made
you the odd one out in the school.
And my hometown was
never a megalopolis like Tokyo.
It's the suburbs,
a little far from Tokyo.
I couldn't get any information there.
So I had to search proactively
for cutting-edge music.

English: 
When I wanted to go record shopping
back in these days,
I always went all the way to Shibuya.
I won't tell you guys the music store's name.
You mentioned Shinjuku earlier, Emma.
Maybe it's because
you want to know about hippie 
or futen, Japanese hippies in Shinjuku.
But I'm afraid I can't satisfy your curiosity in some ways.
Maybe this is not the expected answer.
I wasn't interested in
their cultural scene or organisations.

Japanese: 
その時代に
前衛的な音楽をやっていたんですか？
まだまだ
保守的な社会でしたよね？

English: 
Or be involved in peace activities.
I don't mean to sound negative,
but I love music
because it's an individual activity.
Actually, even
when I was a high school student,
I didn't try to belong to any particular group.
I was just rebellious 
against things I found unreasonable at my school.
It was toward the end of
student activism era back then.
So, sometimes
 I was asked by these students to --
join their assembly.

Japanese: 
ヒッピーの祭典や学生運動で
世間が盛り上がっていた時
あなたは どこに？

English: 
But I was completely uninterested
in student activism.
And also, it was the era of
the so-called hippie.
To me, their festival
just seemed to be dubious.
I was uninterested in them as well.
You might think I'm playing cool, but
I concentrate on music production.
I was at home.

Japanese: 
限界に挑戦し それを超える
アーティストの存在は
国際社会にも 保守的な社会にも
必要でしょうか？

English: 
House and space.
There is no word "boundary"
in my dictionary.
Literally,
I just have been doing...
what I want to do.
I sometimes wonder
what is human nature actually.
And of course, what is my true identity?
I have been seeking these things
continuously since always.

Japanese: 
差し支えなかったら
伺ってもいいですか？
あなたは長年
自分の存在を追求していますね
ご自身では どうお考えですか？

English: 
If you get bored with yourself,
your career is over.
I guess that's why
I have been doing what I love.
I want to go beyond humans.
Most of us remain just humans
and end our lives.
What does going beyond humans mean?

Japanese: 
ここから先は 灰野さんには
皆さんの質問に
答えていただこうと思います
じゃあ 始めましょうか
再度お願いします
灰野さんとは
通訳を通して話していますので
質問は簡潔にして下さい
こんにちは

English: 
When I end my life eventually,
I mean when I die,
I don't want to regret anything.
And even at the moment of my death,
I want to say I can do more, then pass away.
Don't ask me complicated questions.
Excuse me, the translator is breaking up again.

English: 
You still haven't done
what you really want to do.
Be conscious of this feeling.
Maybe it's the only way.
For all I know,
if you are satisfied...
with what you do,
you will never progress anymore.
So, always be insatiate.
I personally have never been satisfied...
with what I have done.
Nothing was perfect.

Japanese: 
Charles Ivesみたいな
アーティストって どう思いますか？
1910年代に 四分音を用いた楽曲で
限界を打ち破りましたよね
彼や 彼の音楽を
どう思ってますか？

Japanese: 
分かりました
あなたが楽器を演奏する時
大切なことだと思いますが
何かイメージは浮かびますか？
もし浮かぶなら
どんなイメージですか？

English: 
I always say 
"more, more, more, most, most, most."
Hi. Thank you for coming.
[To the simultaneous translator] I couldn't hear the first part. Please repeat it.
First, for me, every sound or
every music composed by others,

English: 
I mean the sound I have never listened.
Or the unfamiliar-shaped instrument.
Sometimes I'm surprised,
"Is this really an instrument?"
But I freely feel,
"This must be made for me."
This instrument is for me, too.
It doesn't mean the feeling.
Rather than feeling...
To see whether it's an amazing instrument,
I must see
whether I have good chemistry with it.
So I have to play it to see its true value.
I was strongly interested
in an instrument recently.

English: 
I tried it actually, and it was amazing.
It's a hurdy gurdy.
Hurdy gurdy.
Yes.
The translator needs improvement.
In my case, I usually practice meditation.
Well...
I'm sorry I have to tell this
but probably,
the translator isn't translating
accurately, I guess.
Could you explain it more clearly?

Japanese: 
つまり 一種の
瞑想ですか？
何か浮かびますか？

English: 
I don't see any images.
I'm glad you're laughing.
I hope it's convincing to you.
Not that I empty my mind
when I play the hurdy gurdy.
I can be everything.
I can be everything while I'm playing.
So, I always don't see particular images.
I'm space.
Yeah. Thank you.

Japanese: 
もう一度 私の質問を
分かりやすく言い直します
ハーディーガーディーを演奏する時
何かイメージは浮かびますか？
ないんですね

English: 
Because there are a huge number of CDs
around me.
I have an illusion that I can play five CDs
at once, so I hold one in my mouth.
I might look silly.
If I have ten CDJs, I can try harder.

Japanese: 
どうも
私が興味あるのは
DJをする時
CDを噛んでいるそうですね
通訳を聞き取れましたか？
音声が他の回線に流れてます
そのままお待ち下さい
再度言ってもらいます
聞こえてきました
噛むっていうのは
口に挟むんですか？

English: 
Yeah, right.
It's not some performance.
I have only two hands,
so I have to hold the third CD in my mouth.
I don't bite it,
actually I hold it.
After a tune,
I want to put on the next CD immediately.
No, I have never done it.
It's too uncomfortable to bite.

Japanese: 
本当に口に
CDを挟んでるんですか？
手と同じ…
CDを噛んでしまったりすることは
ありませんか…？
言葉って面白いですね

English: 
This sounds like a joke,
outside Japan,
people sometimes
say I have CDs as my daily meal.
Was it clearly understood?
It means I listen to them.
I don't actually eat them.
Let's say, after I play my live show,
I burn out all my fuel.
Then I buy a new CD I have never listened to
to take on my fuel. It's like a refill.
That's right.

Japanese: 
音楽が栄養なんですね
今日は お話を聞けてうれしいです
僕の質問は
特に Jeff Millsみたいなタイプの
DJについてです

Japanese: 
あなたみたいに 多くのCDJや
サウンドテクスチャーを使います
今後 DJは
そういうスタイル中心になると思いますか？

English: 
Sorry, I have never heard about the guy.
I'll find his CD soon and listen later.
Anyway, about every genre of music,
about every genre of art,
it comes down to this point.
Do you seriously produce your own music?
Or do you just want to show it off?
Please realize these differences.
It fits in every genre.

Japanese: 
あなたのエネルギーは すごい
大量のベルを演奏した時は
楽器が生み出す振動に
癒されました

English: 
I guess it's beneficial to you
in a lot of ways.
It will bring a good influence
on your own musical works.
Your works will have
a good deal of creativity.
I have rarely listened to dance music
in my life.
But even about dance music, if the composer 
seriously produces his own music,
I'll find some common ground
with dance music.
Frankly speaking, that about sums it up.
Thank you.

Japanese: 
そこにある楽器の音も
今 聴かせてもらえますか？
ありがとう
同じことを なぞらないそうですね
でも 録音作業も
なぞることじゃないですか？

English: 
Any other questions?
Let me give you an example --

English: 
When I do musical activity as a band,
there are several bandmates with me.
Then I have to communicate my idea
to my bandmates.
What I'm about to say consists
two different topics.
That in my view,
those who are referred to as composers...
can't compose a piece of music
on the spot.
That's why they were named as composers.
For all I know,
playing melody in general terms,

English: 
or making a riff means --
you occasionally use one note
which is so intricate and sensitive...
to compose a phrase.
In that phrase,
the combination of six sounds
that you've put together,
among these six sounds,
to put it plainly,
eight-beat, four-beat
and sixteen-beat,
simultaneously --

English: 
be in one riff all at once.
If you compose such a riff,
because they can be played in different speed,
even if you don't play the sounds
at the same timing,
it could exists as a block of sounds,
and prolongs or shortens
little by little every time.
Something like that 
could be presented as my work.
As he said in the beginning,
I like your expression,
it was an interesting choice of words,

English: 
When I say I don't repeat myself,
I genuinely don't want to do it exactly.
For instance, the staff brought me here
from my house by car today.
If I come here by myself,
I have to walk to the station.
I have to get on a train.
And I walk to here.
It is also repeating myself
if I be conscious.
Depending on how I look at it,
I suppose it will be one of my habits.

English: 
But this is an important point.
If you acquire a habit --
make sure that it has a positive impact on you.
So, let's get back to music.
The riff you composed,
or the riff that came in form from you,
Just imagine your bandmates say,
"It's a great riff."
And when you have something similar to it
in terms of notation,
or in terms of rhythm interpretation,
Either way, as long as you're disciplined 

Japanese: 
こんにちは
お聞きしたいんですが
日本の社会を批判した楽曲も
作っていますか？
また あなたの音楽スタイルは
日本国内で一般的なんですか？

English: 
not to repeat yourself,
I think you can live in a world that's free 
from the concept of time.
Have I made myself clear?
This is...

English: 
This is a very delicate question.
So I'm going to be cautious 
with my answer.
Speaking of traditional things,
every country must have
some traditional things.
It depends on your way of listening.
There are two types. Some people happen to
hear music without any consciousness.
And other people listen to music
with renewed consciousness.
I don't know if English has
a counterpart of Onkochishin. It's Japanese.
It means,
carrying knowledge into new fields.

English: 
Does English have the same proverb, too?
The translator?
Could you tell me if English has it?
Please tell me now, on my earphones.
Does English have it too?
All right.
When viewed from this point,
any music you feel new is actually new.
And now, I have something
that makes me a little nervous.
Since a certain time in history,
Japanese started to visit many countries.
Japan has developed dramatically.
I mean rapidly.

English: 
People say "As a result of
rapid economic growth,"
"the distortion in the economy
gave rise to noise music."
But I'm dissatisfied with it.
I really dislike that
people call my style "noise music."
It doesn't matter whether
it's in the Eastern or Western world.
Race doesn't matter either
in all senses.
It means people all over the world
can be friends.
I believe it. I say it proudly.
Not society,
individuals should change.

Japanese: 
まだまだですね
質問は これで終了とします
ありがとうございます

English: 
Humans can do many more things
if they try.
Humans haven't reached the limit at all.
If people change their consciousness
like this,
the world will be more exciting.
Thank you.
Thank you.
