PAULA: I've got to do something.
We're going to be responsible.
That responsibility is get out
and vote. If you do that, and if
you do, you can stand before the
Lord, because I do believe we're
going to stand before the Lord.
TERRI: We will. PAULA: And that
we will be accountable for
everything we do or did not do.
An end decision is still a
decision. BUDDY: Absolutely.
GEORGE: Oh yeah. PAULA: So, if
we don't go do something, we're
making a decision not just
personally, but for our nation. 
(Music)
GEORGE: This is Pastor George
Pearsons, and welcome to this
very, very special edition of
The Believer's Voice of Victory,
Faith for our Nation. We are
less than two weeks away from
the midterm elections and these
are so crucial for everyone of
us to participate in that. We
must go to the polls. It is our
responsibility. It is our duty.
Our spiritual responsibility.
You say, "Pastor George, our
spiritual responsibility?"
Absolutely because this effects
everything. Everything that goes
on in our nation. We're making
progress, we have a President
who is standing with us,
standing with the body of
Christ, but we have to continue
this so that we do not lose the
House or the Senate and vote in
all of these elections that are
taking place on every single
level. We've got a lot of
information that we want to give
to you. On the set with me here,
and this is the very set that
we're going to be, in just a few
days, having election coverage.
America Stands, Election
Coverage in the Spirit of Faith
will be coming right from here.
We're going to see great changes
in our nation because of what is
taking place amongst the
believers. I have Pastor Terri
Copeland Pearsons, my wife, here
with us- TERRI: Praise the Lord.
GEORGE: On the set. Buddy
Pilgrim is here. BUDDY: Yes.
GEORGE: And our very special
guest, Paula White Cain, we are
so grateful that you're here
with us- PAULA: Thank you.
GEORGE: To share with us and
help us sound the alarm and
raise our voices. PAULA: Yes.
It's so important right now. I
cannot thank you enough, and
just as everyone is watching, as
we've said DVR these, and make
sure that you show your
neighbors, show your friends.
Because I think so often we get
that complacency or think, what
does it ... Do I really make a
difference? GEORGE: Or
confusion. Who do I vote for?
PAULA: Exactly. Or just, I
always felt, "Does my voice in
all these voice really matter?"
GEORGE: Does it matter? PAULA: I
found out it absolutely matters.
BUDDY: You know what just hit me
as you were saying that about
how important your voice is?
Governor Mike Huckabee's a good
friend of mine. I know he's a
good friend of President Trump's
as well. When he was on the
campaign trail he used to
jokingly say, "Vote early, vote
often." You know you can't
obviously legally vote often,
but you can have a bigger impact
than normal when you vote in an
off-year election. PAULA: It's
true. BUDDY: Because, in a
presidential year election,
about two-thirds of the
population go and vote. In an
off-year election like this, a
midterm election, only about a
third of the population votes.
So, your ability to influence
the outcome is multiplied
because so few other people are
going to be voting. So, this is
an important time for you to go
out and vote because you'll have
an exaggerated impact. The other
thing is what you just said
about DVR-ing this. I've raised
lots of money for politicians in
the past, and done fundraisers
for all kinds of organizations.
I often run into people who say,
"Well gee, this is all I can
give. I wish I could give more."
Well, you can give more if you
take two or three friends to the
polls to vote. And I used to say
that. You're giving all that you
can give, but do you know two or
three friends that you can call
and contribute to this cause as
well? So, just like you can get
a friend to contribute
financially to a cause, you can
get a friend to go cast a vote
as well. When they cast a vote,
you're multiplying your ability
to influence the election. Your
influence is the single most
important asset that you have.
Use these broadcasts and be
influential. PAULA: It's
crucial. It's absolutely
critical. We've been covering a
lot of topics about why this is
so important because ... and I
think, you can correct me, but
isn't this true that when a
President does get in, usually,
say a Republican, we have a
Republican President, that what
happens is people tend to let
their guard down. What happens
is the other side, if you want
to use this, gets a little more
aggressive and says, "Uh oh. We
didn't think we'd lose this
election. We better get out."
So, this is not the time to let
your guard down. We are sounding
the alarm. This is the time that
God has given us for an
awakening for the Church. God
has given us to get out and to
put things into legislation. And
people make it about the
personality, but I believe and I
know, I've had the great
privilege of knowing this family
for 18 years- GEORGE: The Trump
family, yes. PAULA: So I know
what a lot of people don't know
and what will never be reported.
Now I tell everyone, "Look at
the policy. Look at the policy.
Promise made, promise kept.
Promise made, promise kept." And
just over and over and over.
Boy, I've just got only about
100 pages today. GEORGE: Look at
the economy, the turnaround.
PAULA: The lowest ever since
1970. The lowest. We have more
jobs than we have people to
fulfill it right now. It's the
lowest not just in overall. It's
the lowest in the Hispanic
community, lowest in the black
community. It's the lowest among
millennials. Average families
are putting $1000 more a year in
their pocketbook. BUDDY: Most
among women over 50 years.
PAULA: Exactly. We can keep
going. When we get to the
economy, boy, it's going to be
exciting because the growth rate
every quarter is unbelievable
what is happening. BUDDY: We
left off yesterday talking about
the topic of abortion. You just
mentioned this issue about the
President's personality. Without
even getting into that,
regardless of what you think of
the President's personality and
the way he tweets or anything
else. You're right, look at his
policies. And if you look at his
policies, there has never been a
better friend to our beliefs and
to evangelical Christians-
PAULA: 100%. BUDDY: In the White
House than President Trump. You
mentioned one yesterday, the
Pain-Capable bill. In September
of last year, I went to the
White House with a group of
pro-life people to meet with the
Trump administration and discuss
the Pain-Capable bill. President
Trump has a lot of strongly
pro-life people that are
throughout his cabinet and his
administration. We met with
them. We talked to them. This is
before the House had passed the
bill. They came to us and they
basically said this. "If you can
get the House of Representatives
and the Senate to pass the
Pain-Capable bill, President
Trump will sign it." If you're
not familiar with what the
Pain-Capable bill is, the
Pain-Capable bill is a bill that
would prevent abortions for
babies that are 20 weeks or more
of age in gestation. Now, at 20
weeks of age, a baby has fingers
and toes, not just limbs, but
fingers and toes and moves, and
it literally feels pain the same
way we do. That's why it's
called the Pain-Capable bill.
All it wants to do is restrict
abortions after that age. There
was recently a baby in the news
that was born at 22 weeks of
age. Without the Pain-Capable
bill, if that mother wanted to
abort that baby, to kill that
baby, she could have. The
commitment- TERRI: And abortion
is extremely painful. It's
inhumane in every way. BUDDY:
You couldn't do it to a puppy.
TERRI: Well, you'd
get thrown in jail
if you did it to a puppy. PAULA:
There you go, Terri. TERRI: When
we say pain-capable, people have
some idea that there's some
merciful way to do an abortion.
There's not. None. It's horrid.
BUDDY: None. PAULA: It's almost
too descriptive to sit here and
describe what they will do, what
they'll go in, or break the neck
of the child. They go in and
they literally, like you said,
it's literally murder. BUDDY: It
is. PAULA: And no one wants to
call it what it is. It's like so
many issues that I've learned to
deal with. We talked about this
last time. I feel that people
have used, culture has learned
to use these nice words to cover
things up of what the truth of
what is really happening. BUDDY:
Yeah, they call it women's
health care. GEORGE: Listen to
what the Democratic party
platform, that's what they stand
for. That's what they believe,
concerning abortion, among many
things that are written. I've
read these platforms,
highlighted, underlined, but the
Democrats say, "We believe
unequivocally, like the majority
of Americans, that every woman
should have access to quality
reproductive healthcare
services, including safe and
legal abortion." That is the
Democratic platform. That's
where they stand. BUDDY: And
it's unrestricted. They don't
want any restrictions on
abortion, not even this 20 week
restriction. And going back to
this issue of the Pain-Capable
bill, so we met with the Trump
administration. He said that he
would sign this bill. After
that, we went up to Capitol Hill
and we met with Congressmen,
with House Representatives and
with Senators. We got people who
agreed that they would sign this
bill. Within two weeks of when
the president announced that he
would sign it, the House of
Representatives passed the
Pain-Capable bill. Then it went
to the Senate. Now it's still
sitting in the Senate. That was
September of last year when that
took place. There are over 5000
babies a month every month that
are killed that are more than 20
weeks of gestation age or older.
5000 every single month that are
killed. That happened last
September. It's still sitting in
the Senate. Why? Because we
don't have 60 senators that will
overcome a filibuster and the
Democrats filibuster this issue,
and won't allow it to be voted
on. If we can get more
Republicans pro-life senators in
the Senate, President Trump is
already committed. I will sign
that bill. That's how important
this election is. GEORGE: We can
make that happen on election day
or early voting. We can do that.
PAULA: Absolutely. That's what
we're talking about the
importance of this. Where people
would sit home and go, "Well
it's not a precedent." Do you
understand? When we're saying
that means that there are
children ... I just had a
grandson on Labor Day. The most
precious beautiful human being
came out. I held him. We're all
crying. I can't imagine a day
earlier that in 30 something
states, you could abort that
child and not say this is a
child. He has a little ... I put
it on my Instagram. He's got a
little thing, pro-life, I made
the choice. That's his onesie. A
week earlier or a month earlier.
It's just almost mind-blowing.
What Buddy is saying is so
important because he's talking
filibuster dada da. Of course
I've come to know those terms,
but before I'd have been, "What
are you saying?" What he's
saying is this. That the
President has said, "I will sign
into legislation ... I will
agree. I will sign into this."
But it's in this, the House has
said yes. If the Senate says
yes, it's legislation that you
will no longer be able to abort
a child at nine months. That's
what, at the end of the day, you
look at your Bible and you go,
do I believe that or don't I? If
I believe that, you have to be
responsible. It's just like, I
know this is a completely
different way of looking at it,
but Pastor Terri, when we say,
"I can thank Jesus as a Savior.
I can osmosis in my mind," but
if I don't make a confession of
salvation, believe it in my
heart, and confess that he is my
Lord and my Savior, then I
cannot be born again. There's
something I have to do
with it. He doesn't
make me go to the
alter and bring 10 things, but
I have to do something.
I can't just osmosis,
well I hope this doesn't
happen. I've got to do
something. We're going to be
responsible. That responsibility
is get out and vote. If you do
that, and if you do, you can
stand before the Lord, because I
do believe we're going to stand
before the Lord. TERRI: We will.
PAULA: And that we will be
accountable for everything we do
or did not do. An end decision
is still a decision. BUDDY:
Absolutely. GEORGE: Oh yeah.
PAULA: So, if we don't go do
something, we're making a
decision not just personally,
but for our nation. GEORGE: Well
that word that Brother Copeland
had, you've taken the devil's
part by not voting at all. You
default to whatever is against
the will of God by not using
that right and using that vote.
We can go in there for the very
point of stopping this abortion.
We can go into the polls and
completely change everything.
And we can do it. BUDDY:
Absolutely. To go back to that
point I made earlier, remember
two-thirds of the people vote in
the presidential election. About
a third vote in this election.
Your vote has twice the impact
in this election. GEORGE: Yes it
does. BUDDY: That's
why it's so important
to get out during the
midterms. GEORGE: My vote is
worth so much more when I go in
there, when I go to vote. It's
like I'm carrying with me, I
don't know what the equation
would come out to be, but I'm
carrying 500 votes. That's how
much it's worth by the people
that do not go in there and
vote. BUDDY: It's a double
portion seed. GEORGE: That's
exactly right. PAULA: I'm just
going to say something I believe
is going to happen. I think the
other side was so ... I think
they're still in trauma. They're
still in trauma. Everyone was
like, the impossible. This did
not happen. Yes, it did and God
has given us this moment that I
do think there is going to be
tremendous galvanization by the
other side. I do think that the
numbers, that they are not going
to sit back. I do think they're
going to show up, and if we sit
back by default and do not use
our voice, and you said it
earlier. We are the most
powerful voting block, period.
BUDDY: That's right. PAULA: We
are. If we do what God has
called us to do, I believe we're
seeing such transformation.
We're just on life. We still
have religious liberty. We still
have judges that are lifetime
appointments. We're not voting
these things that are going to
say, "Oh for the next four
years." I'm talking 30 years, 40
years, 50, that literally will
change our nation. Change it.
BUDDY: It's the voting block
that is the only one in which we
should see our identity. We
should not see our identity as
male versus female, rich versus
poor, black versus white,
employer versus employee,
straight versus gay, any of
those things. Our identity
should be in Christ. When we see
our identity in Christ, we'll
line up with his Word and we can
vote properly. We'll vote
correctly. GEORGE: We look for
the platform that lines up with
the Word of God. According to
the platform where abortion is
concerned, and this is just one,
one statement of the
Republicans, abortion should be
illegal in all cases, and the
Constitution should be amended
to ban the procedure. We assert
the sanctity of human life and
affirm that the unborn child has
a fundamental right of life,
which cannot be infringed.
That's what the platform says.
PAULA: It's very plain. I mean,
as I'm sitting here, I'm just
looking at just talking points
like we'd said, from Mexico City
policy, which $9 billion within
the first week, which we stopped
all funding from foreign
abortion. BUDDY: Mexico City
policy funded abortions in other
countries. PAULA: Exactly. Then
we keep going down to all the
things that were overturned, the
Pain-Capable, some of the things
we didn't get to. President
Trump rescinded an Obama-era
policy that hindered states in
their efforts to direct Medicaid
funding away from abortion
facilities that violate the law
or fail to meet relevant
standards of care. I mean, we
could just, Title X funded for
healthcare, he cut that off,
that would perform support of
abortions. There's so many
things that we can talk about
for us just be it pro-life. I
mean, he is not just by talk,
but by action. In a year and a
half, this has been the most
pro-life ... I mean, people who
served with Reagan, served with
Bush, who are friends of mine
say, "We have never seen such a
faith friendly" ... The
President will always say, he'll
get Robert Jeffress up and he'll
say, "He'll say it." Pastor
Robert will say, "Well we
weren't looking for a Sunday
school teacher and we knew we
weren't voting in a pastor. We
were voting in someone who would
do what they would say they
would do." And that's what he's
done. I know we've talked so
much with abortion, but it goes
hand-in-hand with religious
liberty. It's things that we
look and ... These are just a
few of my talking points. The
State Department had an
unprecedented that we just came
back from the Minister Alliance
of Religious Freedom with over
80 something countries that were
represented at the State
Department. Pompeo, I love to
say, he's very strong. I mean,
there's so much, but these are
some of the things that are
president's done. In January
2018, the Justice Department
announced a religious liberty
update to the US Attorney's
manual, raising the profile of
religious liberty cases and
directing the designation of a
religious liberty
point-of-contact for all US
Attorney offices. We just had a
huge call with DOJ. All faith,
we, and anyone that would like
to be a part, we have monthly
calls with the White House, with
all people of faith. We have
thousands of people that call in
through the OPL and we have
different speakers on. We talked
about what does that mean on a
practical level. In 2017,
October, the Department of
Justice issued 20 principles of
religious liberty to guide the
administration's litigation
strategy and protect religious
freedom. January 2018, the
Department of Health and Human
Services announced major policy
changes protecting freedom of
religion inside and outside the
government, forming a new
conscience of religious freedom
division, providing HHS with the
focus it needs to more
vigorously and effectively
enforce existing laws protecting
the rights of conscience and
religious freedom. Proposing to
more vigorously enforce 25
existing statuary conscience
protections for Americans
involving an HHS programs, in
order to protect Americans who
have religious or moral
convictions related to certain
healthcare services. We'll make
this basic. That has to do with
contraceptives. That has to do
with different people who have
conscience that they shouldn't
have to provide what they did to
the little sisters, the poor
sisters- BUDDY: The Sisters of
the Poor. Hobby Lobby as
well, correct. PAULA: Hobby
Lobby. The President has
announced a reversal of the
Obama administration's policy
and is allowing houses of
worship to receive crucial
disaster aid in time of crisis.
He's removed all the
regulations. I know I was
talking to Shannon Royce of HHS,
who's a faith director, because
there's a ton of funding. I
said, "How many faith-based
organizations have applied?" She
said, "Well there's been one,
because many people don't even
understand that's available or
know how to apply for that." But
stuff like that. The Trump
administration has taken a stand
on behalf of religious liberty
in the courts. It supported
baker Jack Phillips' right to
operate his bakery in accordance
with his religious beliefs. I
know we need to touch that one
strong. Supported students
declared ineligible for a
scholarship because they
attended a religious school.
Supported the archdiocese of
Washington in its efforts to buy
ads for the holidays on public
transportation. I mean, he makes
it really simple. We put Merry
Christmas back. Amen. GEORGE:
That was the thing. When we were
in New York in 2016, as a
candidate, he was there and Mike
Huckabee was interviewing him.
When he said that, he said,
"We're going to say Merry
Christmas again," I'm like, "Is
this a politician or what?" He's
not. He also talked about the
Johnson amendment. I've never
heard any politician talking
about getting rid of the Johnson
amendment. The Lord is using him
to take the muzzle off, for us
to be able to have free speech
in our nation. BUDDY: And to
literally get rid of the Johnson
amendment, we've got to have the
House pass a bill and the Senate
pass the bill and him sign it.
PAULA: Midterms.
BUDDY: He can use an executive
order to tell the IRS. TERRI:
It's temporary. BUDDY: Don't
enforce this against people of
faith, but that is temporary, as
you said. It's got to be passed.
And I'm going to tell you. He
understands freedom. That's why
this book that George is going
to tell you about more at the
end, that you can get for free,
it's America Stands, Our
Founding Documents of Freedom.
You need to get this and read
it. It won't take you long. The
first amendment to the
Constitution is, "Congress shall
make no law respecting an
establishment of religion." This
is really just about freedom.
Donald J. Trump understands that
our Declaration of Independence
and our Constitution is all
about us being free people, not
dependent upon the government.
Having the freedom to prosper on
our own. Nobody teaches
prosperity better than Brother
Kenneth Copeland. Prosper on our
own, succeed on our own, and
speak as God leads us to speak.
PAULA: So important. And these
things that he said is, I mean
the case, and we'll probably get
into it both in Denver and
others, as we well know. We
reference the baker case. People
are like, "What really
happened?" Well, the cake was
baked, but they refused to put a
topper on due to convictions of
their moral beliefs. As we know,
they lost everything. They lost
their business. They lost
absolutely everything. Now
here's the problem with this.
This is a private owned business
and there were 14 other
bakeries. So, people will
compare it to Civil Rights or
say, but there was not a free
market during Civil Rights.
There wasn't 14 other choices.
So, when you say to a person,
"You must do this now," and it's
against my moral, my spiritual,
my religious beliefs, you're
taking away my religious
liberty. BUDDY: Well, you're
telling them they have to
participate in a ceremony.
There's a difference between if
someone walks into your place of
business and wants to buy
something off the shelf, you
refusing to sell them because
you don't like whatever it is
about them, their sex or their
gender or their race or anything
else. That's a whole different
thing than somebody walking into
your store and say, "I want you
to participate in my ceremony,
and my ceremony is going to be
this. It's going to be a
homosexual wedding. I don't care
whether you believe in them or
not, I want you to ... Pastor
George, I want you to perform
the wedding ceremony. You have
to." No. PAULA: Don't get me
started because I think we were
headed that way. BUDDY: That's
exactly where we were headed.
GEORGE: We have just a couple of
minutes left. Terri, I just want
to give you an opportunity here
to speak a word and then let's
pray over this. TERRI: Well, we
have to have a foundation of
scripture in order to pray. This
is what dropped in my heart in
Matthew 18 and 19. "I tell you,"
Jesus said this, "if two of you
on Earth agree together about
whatever," so we're talking
about Earthly matters. Whatever,
"Anything and everything they
ask, it will come to pass, be
done for them of my father in
heaven." Why? Because where two
or three are gathered in my
name, that's the context. It has
to be in his name and what his
name represents. Then what does
he say will happen if we do
that? He said, "The I am is in
the midst." GEORGE: That's
right. TERRI: If we want
the power of God in
our nation, then we
have to move things
towards the power of
agreement that lines up with
what his name represents that he
is. So, this election is about
moving Congress, moving the
Senate- GEORGE: That's it.
That's it. TERRI: Moving these
into an agreement- GEORGE: An
agreement. PAULA:
That's it. TERRI: With
a man that God has
clearly put his hand on
and what will be the
result? The great I am will be
in the midst. PAULA: Amen.
GEORGE: Praise God. Father, we
just glorify you and honor you
and thank you for the privilege
that it is to vote in our
nation. We will not
relinquish our responsibility.
We see the House and the
Senate in full position to
be able to carry through 
this legislation.
In Jesus' name,
we pray. Amen. TERRI:
Amen. BUDDY: Amen. Amen.
GEORGE: I'll be right
back. Stay with us.
ANNOUNCER: We hope you enjoyed
today's teaching from Kenneth
Copeland Ministries. And
remember Jesus is Lord. 
