AMY GOODMAN: On Monday, we were in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, where I sat down at the First
Parish Church in Cambridge with MIT professor,
longtime dissident, world-renowned linguist,
Noam Chomsky.
NOAM CHOMSKY: Huge specter that we’re kind
of trying to survive under, and that’s nuclear
war.
That’s a whole other story.
Here, both the Obama administration and, increasingly,
Trump are radically increasing that danger.
This—the threat of the new developments
is captured very effectively in the best,
simple monitor of the state of the world,
established at the beginning of the nuclear
age by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.
I’m sure you all know about this, but the
Bulletin of Atomic Scientists regularly brings
together a group of scientists, political
analysts, other very serious people, to try
to give some kind of estimate of what the
situation of the world is.
The question is: How close are we to termination
of the species?
And they have a clock, the Doomsday Clock.
When it hits midnight, we’re finished.
End of the human species and much else.
And the question every year is: How far is
the minute hand from midnight?
Well, at the beginning, in 1947, beginning
of the nuclear age, it was placed at seven
minutes to midnight.
It’s been moving up and back ever since.
The closest it’s come to midnight was 1953.
1953, the United States and Russia both exploded
hydrogen bombs, which are extremely serious
threat to survival.
Intercontinental ballistic missiles were all
being developed.
This, in fact, was the first serious threat
to the security of the United States.
There’s an interesting story behind that,
but I’ll put it aside, unless there’s
time to talk about it.
But then, it came to two minutes to midnight.
And it’s been moving up and back since.
Two years ago—2014, I think it was—the
analysts took into account for the first time
something that had been ignored: the fact
that the nuclear age—the beginning of the
nuclear age coincided with the beginning of
a new geological epoch, the so-called Anthropocene.
There’s been some debate about the epoch
in which human activity is drastically affecting
the general environment.
There’s been debate about its inception.
But the World Geological Organization has
recently determined that it’s about the
same time as the beginning of the nuclear
age.
So we’re in these two eras in which the
possibility of human survival is very much
at stake, and, with us, everything else, too,
of course, all living—most living things,
which are already under very severe threat.
Well, a couple of years ago—I think it was
2014—the Bulletin began to take that into
account and moved the minute hand up to three
minutes to midnight, where it remained last
year.
A couple of—about a week into Trump’s
term, the clock was moved again, to two-and-a-half
minutes to midnight.
That’s the closest it’s been since 1953.
And that means extermination of the species
is very much an—very much an open question.
I don’t want to say it’s solely the impact
of the Republican Party—obviously, that’s
false—but they certainly are in the lead
in openly advocating and working for destruction
of the human species.
I agree that’s a very outrageous statement.
So I therefore simply suggest that you take
a look at the facts and see if it has any
merit or if it just should be bitterly condemned.
That’s up to you.
My view, the facts are pretty clear.
