
English: 
The distinction between "lower
self" and "evil" is explained as "evil" being
a splitting off of consciousness. So again,
in a later point, I'll talk about some of the
religious and karmic and... and stuff. But in
terms of the splitting off of consciousness,
the Pathwork presents that life, human life,
is a school.
A school for learning and transformation. And
that in this school, if you want to take that
analogy just a little bit further... let's
say we go through grades. Instead of
incarnatory incarnations or lifetimes, it's
like we go through different classes and

Chinese: 
低级自我和邪恶之间的区别，
低级自我和邪恶之间的区别
可以解释为
邪恶是“意识的分裂”
一会儿我会再
谈到宗教，业力（karmic）等等。
但是谈到意识的分裂，
心路治疗呈现了
生命——人类的生命——
是一所学校，一所
关于学习和转化的学校。
在学校里——如果你们想进一步使用这个类比——
比如说我们要经过不同的年级，而非
incarnations 
就像我们要上不同的课程，
不同的经历，
在精神进化的阶梯上向上攀登。

English: 
different experiences moving up the
evolutionary spiritual ladder so that we have
more and more awareness. And we are
transforming more and more of this closed off
numb, fearful attitude and becoming more
enlightened, more willing, allowing our heart
to open.
But "evil" goes back to the initial split.
The cosmology of the Guide parallels many of
the (most of) the religions and philosophies,
religious philosophies that humans have
developed. And that is that there was some
kind of initial separation from the Divine.
And in that separation, there is a "NO!"
Rather than, an "I want to explore. Wouldn't
this be interesting? Let's all have fun
together."

Chinese: 
于是我们会有越来越多的认识，
并且我们会越来越多的转化
这种封闭，麻木，和恐惧的态度，
并且变得更加开明，并且愿意
敞开心扉。但是，
邪恶回到原初的“分裂”。
 
（心路治疗）的宇宙观
与人类的很多其他宗教、
哲学、或者宗教哲学是一致的。
那就是有某种
与神性的原初的分离。
在这种分离中，
存在一种拒绝，而非
“我想要探索！这不是很有趣的吗？让我们都一同感受到其中的乐趣！”
对神性的拒绝造成了分裂，造成了

Chinese: 
一种不同的意识。
这就是心路治疗所应对的那种邪恶。
这就是心路治疗所应对的那种邪恶。
人类的低级自我，是我们最终
与邪恶相互作用，被其吸引，
允许它在我们的生活中，
而对其放任，不将其约束，
或使之远离我们。
因为意识的分裂使人们感觉到
更少的痛苦。
在与神性的分离中，
我们的敏感性被切断，
变得更加分离与孤独，
但是更多的麻木却让人感觉良好。
与神性的分离可以让人觉得更平静，安宁，甚至安全。

English: 
There is a rejection of the Divine that
creates a split, that creates a separate type
of consciousness. And this is the concept of
"evil" that Pathwork works with. So what
happens with the lower self, in terms of
human form, is that we wind up interacting
with evil, being attracted to it, allowing it
in our lives, not taking care to keep it
contained or away from us. Because the split
of evil, the split of consciousness, actually
feels like there is less pain. In that
separation from the Divine, we cut off our
sensitivity-- become more separate, more
alone. And yet, 'more numb' can feel like a

Chinese: 
与神性的分离可以让人觉得更平静，安宁，甚至安全。
因为神性真正代表了正在进行的转变，净化，和意识(awareness)。
意识(awareness)——我解释这个概念的一种方式是
当你的胳膊或腿麻木时，
在某个瞬间你意识到
肢体已经麻木了。于是你移动它
此时已经发生的是
神经有一点痛，或者
肢体的血流减少。由于这个原因，
肢体的神经变的麻木。它们没有足够的
氧气和养料以实现它们的功能。
于是它们变的麻木。它们事实上已经停止工作了。
这时你做一个微小的移动，
血流变的通畅，神经觉醒过来，
你便觉得有针扎的感觉。
这种针扎的感觉可以非常强烈！
它几乎可以是你流泪，这种感觉非常糟糕！

English: 
positive. It can feel calmer, quieter, even
safer to be separated from the Divine.
Because the Divine really represents an
ongoing transformation, purification, and
awareness.
And awareness--one of the ways I explain this
is when your arm or your leg goes numb, you
have a moment where you realize that the limb
has gone numb and then you move it. And what
has happened is there's a bit of, a slight,
pinch in the nerve or a decrease in blood to
the limb. And because of that, the nerves in
the limb have gone numb. They don't have
enough oxygen and food to do their process.
So they've gone numb. They have, in effect,
shut down. And then you make a slight
movement and the blood comes rushing back and
the nerves wake up and you get pins and
needles. And the pins and needles can feel

English: 
intense! It can almost make your eyes water!
It feels so ferocious and terrible! And what
can you do? You can't stop it from enacting
and you can't turn it off. So, we all kind of
breathe deeply and wait for just a few
moments for that intense sensation to
subside. And then the arm or leg returns to
normal. Imagine if you would--if when we made
that slight adjustment and those pins and
needles started, we could shut it down again.
Imagine if we said, "That hurts. That's too
intense! I can't bear that. I just can't
stand it! I'm going to turn it off... Ah, oh,
that's much better!"
Your arm or leg would die.
The tissues, after being cut off for X amount
of time, would die. And the limb would become

Chinese: 
你能做什么呢？
你不能让它停止工作，不能把它关掉。
于是我们深呼吸，并且等待——只是一小会儿
等待这种强烈感觉的消退。
之后胳膊或腿便恢复了正常。
想象一下，如果你可以，当我们做这个
微小调整的时候，这种针扎的感觉开始产生时，
我们可以将其关闭。
想象一下，如果我们说“那很疼！这种感觉太强烈了！”
“我不能承受这种感觉，我要把这种感觉关掉！”
“——啊，这样好多了。”
这样你的胳膊或腿会死掉。它们的组织，
在被切断养料一段时间之后会死掉。
肢体会变的坏死、腐烂。

Chinese: 
最终，如果你不把它切除，
或者让别人帮助你，
你的整个肌体会坏死。
因为这个坏死的器官，这个坏死的肢体，
它会毒害你的整个身体。
但是，当我们在感情上做这种事的时候，
我们看不到它的结果。
 
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我今年以后会讲到
PL196: 承诺，原因以及结果。
那个讲座谈到的的一点是
当你分离原因和结果时，
当一个结果与原因分隔甚远，以至于
你看不到它们之间的联系
你将不会意识到什么正在发生。
事实上，你不再对其采取任何措施。

English: 
gangrenous. It would begin to rot. And
eventually, if you didn't cut it off, or have
someone help you out, your whole organism
would die because of this dead organ, this
dead limb. That would then poison your
system. And yet, when we do that, on an
emotional level, we do not see the
consequences. There ARE consequences.
One of the lectures that I'm going to teach
later this year is Lecture 196, Commitment,
Cause and Effect. And one of the things that
lecture talks about is that when you separate
cause and effect, when... when you have an
effect that is so far away from the cause,
that you cannot see the connection between
the two, you lose awareness of what's

English: 
happening. In effect, you can no longer do
anything about it. Because you don't know why
something is happening. So emotionally, when
you, for instance, feel lonely and afraid,
and you open your heart, you might have the
feeling that is very, very similar to the
pins and needles in your arm. You may feel
overwhelmed. You may feel the intensity of
your own loneliness. You may open your heart
and find that your friends are delighted! And
they say things like, "where have you been?"
"What have you been doing?" "We've called and
we've tried to contact you and for
heaven's..." And... it's loving and wonderful
chatter! But sometimes it feels like a
criticism. And we suddenly feel like we've
done something wrong. But the overwhelm of
suddenly being open again to input from other
people and to our own feelings can feel so
intense and so overwhelming that we, once

Chinese: 
因为你不知道为什么某件事会发生。
所以在情感上，当你——比如说——
觉得孤独与害怕，并且你敞开心扉，
你可能觉得这种感觉与
胳膊麻木后针刺的感觉非常相似。
你可能觉得难以承受。你可能感受到
你自己强烈的孤独。你可能敞开心扉，
然后发觉你的朋友是愉悦的！
他们可能说，
“你去哪里了？最近在做什么？”
“我们试着联系你”，
这是一种可爱和美好的交谈，但是有时听起来像是批评。
我们突然觉得我们做错了什么。
但是由于突然打开心扉、接受来自别人和自己的感受
而造成的难以承受的感觉
但是由于突然打开心扉、接受来自别人和自己的感受
而造成的难以承受的感觉
但是由于突然打开心扉、接受来自别人和自己的感受
而造成的难以承受的感觉

English: 
again, shut it down. Imagine if you would a
cycle of this... where we keep shutting down
any level of intense feelings having to do
with reenacting or resusitating friendships.
After a while, people wander away. After a
while, people decide you don't want to be
friends. You show no interest. You never
contact them. And so the stimulus goes away.
And then, of course, you can open up and you
won't feel that kind of intensity from the
outside. And because there is no outside
stimulus you may not notice your own
feelings. So you open up then and you say,
"Ah, now I feel comfortable! Now, I feel that
I could open my heart." And yet you are
opening your heart to a much more limited

Chinese: 
可能是如此的强烈，以至于我们可能将它再次关闭。
如果你愿意，可以想象一下这种循环。
我们不断的将重新培育友谊造成的强烈感觉关闭，
我们不断的将重新培育友谊造成的强烈感觉关闭，
如此一段时间之后，人们便会离我们而去。
如此一段时间之后，人们便会离我们而去。
如此一段时间之后，人们觉得——你不想和他们成为朋友。
你对他们没有表现出任何兴趣，你从不接触他们。
于是那种刺激就消失了。
而且你不会觉得那种
来自外界的强烈刺激，因为已经没有外界的刺激了。
你可能不会察觉到自己的感受。
所以当你敞开之后，并且说“啊！”
现在我觉得很舒服。现在，
我感受到了我可以敞开心扉。
而且你也真正

English: 
experience. So, what I'm describing here is
that just like the physical, we may have to
learn to tolerate. We may have to learn to
bear with...grit our teeth and just get
through it...on intense emotional
experiences, just like we let our arms and
our legs wake up. Because by turning away
that intense experience, we do not
re-enliven.  We do not re-engage. And we lose
awareness of our feelings and of the
situation.
Now what I'm describing here is that "evil",
in the Pathwork understanding, "evil" is a
separation where you have managed to cut off
the interaction. And you may have been able

Chinese: 
对一种有限的体验地敞开了心扉。
我在这里描述的是，就像我们需要学着忍受那种身体上的不适，
我在这里描述的是，就像我们需要学着忍受那种身体上的不适，
我们可能需要学着承受
需要咬紧牙关承受的感情体验
就像让我们的胳膊和腿
从麻木中醒过来。
因为，远离那种强烈的体验，我们不能
重新激活。
我们失去对情感和状况的意识，
我这里描述的是
邪恶是造成分离、切断相互作用的
邪恶是造成分离、切断相互作用的
邪恶是造成分离、切断相互作用的
而且你可能能够切断那种感受。
而且你可能能够切断那种感受。

English: 
to cut off the feelings so that you are
isolated and alone. There's a chilly, cold
quality to that, which has truth in it
because evil tends to want things under
control and slow. And that's not real. So
evil is creating an artificial environment
where it can control everything. And shut
down outside input. And shut down any
internal feelings that want to come forward
that it doesn't feel comfortable with. So it
is this quality of separation and falseness
that the Pathwork concept of evil works with.
So you have the lower self, which is a
creative center of trying to enact this. How
do I separate? How do I shut down these
feelings? How do I avoid...? It's a very

Chinese: 
于是你被分离并且孤单，
一个冷峻、但包含着真理的的事实是，
因为邪恶倾向于
让事态得到控制，并且变慢，
而且这些是不真实的。
所以邪恶
便制造了一个假象，似乎他可以控制一切
并且关掉来自外部的输入，
关掉任何内部的想要克服不适的感觉。
这就是心路治疗要应对的那种分离和假象。
这就是心路治疗中的“邪恶”的概念对应的那种分离和假象。
你有低级自我，
它是实图创造这些问题：
“我如何分离？”
“我如何关掉这些感受？”
“我如何避免...”
在这方面，它是一个非常有创造力的、活跃的中心。
但是在此之下你还有邪恶，

English: 
creative and active center. But then you have
the underlying principle of evil, which is "I
don't want to play."
"I don't want to love. I don't want to be
with other people."
"I don't want to give up any control. I want
it all for myself."
But the quality of evil is very cold and
deliberate. And the lower self is more of
a...more of an alive, once again, creative
center. So it's talking about the difference,
a bit of difference, between the lower self
and evil.

Chinese: 
它便是
“我不想继续参与了”，
“我不想和其他人在一起”，
“我不想放弃任何控制权“
邪恶是冰冷的，
低级自我
是一个更活跃、有创造性的中心。
所以我们在这里谈到了低级自我和邪恶的一点区别。
所以我们在这里谈到了低级自我和邪恶的一点区别。
