SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY FROM BLACK VOTERS THERE, WHO ARE THE BASE
VOTERS THERE, WHO ARE THE BASE OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN.
OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN. BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS,
BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING
BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT
AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES,
RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES, AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE
AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER
SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER NIGHT.
NIGHT. >> NO, THEY DIDN’T.
>> NO, THEY DIDN’T. THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG
THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY
AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY GOOD.
GOOD. BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS
BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED.
GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED. I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG
I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE
DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM --
HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM -- THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE
THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL.
OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL. BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE
BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND
ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND
BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND KLOBUCHAR.
KLOBUCHAR. AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT
AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT
BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT.
PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT. I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS
I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN
TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN
THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION.
AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION. EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND
EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT
THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM
BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL
SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL DELEGATE LEAD.
DELEGATE LEAD. AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD
AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY
THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW
DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF
BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL
PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL
BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL HIS BILLIONS.
HIS BILLIONS. IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE
IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE MATH.
MATH. WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE
AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF
EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY
YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH
HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH YOU.
YOU. SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE
SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY
WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN
WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN AWAY.
AWAY. >> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE
>> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT --
YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT -- SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE
SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE FLASHBACKS OF 2016.
FLASHBACKS OF 2016. THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN
THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU
NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS
HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY
OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU
NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER
HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER EACH OTHER.
EACH OTHER. YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING
YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING MARCO.
MARCO. YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER
YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER JEB.
JEB. REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG
REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ
PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP.
REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP. AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE
AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE
TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED
FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED TO DO THAT.
TO DO THAT. BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS
BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S
THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S STILL NOT TOO LATE.
STILL NOT TOO LATE. CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND
POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP
BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP NEAR THE TOP.
NEAR THE TOP. YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME
YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME
OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME THING.
THING. OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY
OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY AHEAD THERE.
AHEAD THERE. BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME
BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME
POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP.
THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP. AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL
AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL PRETTY TIGHT.
PRETTY TIGHT. SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR
SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO
ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS.
CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS. BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY
BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM
DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM ON.
ON. IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED
IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES
AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS
ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS WELL.
WELL. >> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE
>> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE 2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU
2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH
HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE
EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP.
THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP. BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH
BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE
EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE.
SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE. WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE
WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE.
AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE. THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET
THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS
JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE
MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN
SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN AMONG BLACK VOTERS.
AMONG BLACK VOTERS. REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30
REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30 POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR.
POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE
WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER,
AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER, HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO.
HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO. THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA
THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS
ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE
MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
PLACE. THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC
THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN.
VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN. THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY,
THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY, I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING
I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING HORSE.
HORSE. SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS
SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE
NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN
ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AS WELL.
VOTERS AS WELL. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. AND THIS WAS SORT OF
AND THIS WAS SORT OF PREDICTABLE.
PREDICTABLE. THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM
THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH
AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE
CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE HISTORICALLY.
HISTORICALLY. I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT
I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL,
OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL, STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION.
STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION. THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN
TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR
AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE
FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR
PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH
DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S
BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES.
HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES. AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING
AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN
ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS.
YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS. MEANWHILE THERE IS A
MEANWHILE THERE IS A GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG
GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS.
AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG
YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A
AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL
LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS
WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS.
SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK
THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF
WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT
THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE
NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE VOTERS.
VOTERS. THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH
THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS.
LARGE NUMBERS. AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO
AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE
RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND
BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY
FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP,
HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP, WE HAVEN’T SEEN THAT IN THE
