Let´s go?
Let's go!
Let's go! Cigarette, Cigarette, Cigarette ...
Actually the situation of Art from now on
Creating perspectives
despite
of our reality
despite the present
always thinking where
things can point at, right?
we and the artists talk so much about the boxes and that we want to escape the boxes
but they also
create their own boxes
so how would it be
the internet as the main area of ​​activity?
But we didn't want that
only one thought surrounded this Occupation
we wanted different heads to accompany this
And that’s why we’ve now arrived at this Zoom meeting to celebrate the first quarter
that we decided to invite
 Hugo Cabral Carneiro
and João Cury
They are people we admire
precisely because of the breadth of
of thought
they work in a specific area
but it seems that they are always with their heads everywhere at the same time
Craca, just to warn you: it's the first Zoom I do!
Anyway, we know that Art
always served to mess up normality a little
to shake up certain structures that are established and consolidated
and crystallize in a hypocritical way,
sometimes authoritarian and etc.
So Art gets there and gives that "puft"
shaking things up, right?
What kind of art can I make that makes sense from now on?
that still makes some sense
within this logic of
constraining normality
and now we are just arriving at this "new normal" here
If Art, well, until recently
it needed to be subversive in order not to be innocuous
Where do you see Art positioned
 and how can art position itself from now on?
In terms of art, I wanted to quote
the work we did with Mirella and Muep
at Sesc Avenida Paulista
at the time of the Inauguration of the Unit
* of the Unit's reopening
that was "Transtorno"
I quote this work because for me, it was very impressive as an audience to
be present in that environment of Light, Sound and Smoke
And then what comes to my mind when I think about that job,
yeah, I got here on my instagram to remember the work
and the image of the work
of the public, yes? Where the public is located.
I'm saying this, because when we think
Contemporary Art today,
 we are thinking directly on how to show contemporary art
is placed in that place, the experiences that each one will have is different
and that it's not just different because we are different people
is because we have access to different devices
The first thing I think about, is how people will participate in these works
And then, gurl, that's it
the favorites folder on Google is full
with people I've never heard of in my life
Somehow, the pandemic was already among us
because the arts were being made for the artists
I will say this about the Theater
the Theater, it was not being made for the public
because that's all Antiarte
you be still, Mirella said! "In the box"
The box, the artists stayed in the box
The pandemic was already among us
that is the question
there is no point in closing your eyes for this
we already had a crisis
what was being said
There are many independent initiatives that are very strong
and that point
for new experiences that may surprise us right now
but that they need to be
they need an investment, they need to be fed
so that they get somewhere powerfull
So you need both
you need to feed what already exists
and you need to make room for things that can go wrong
but they need space to exist
to discover yourself, to ...
no one snaps a finger and discovers a new path, a new language
What other parameters for measuring artwork
we can have from now on, from this moment Pandemic
what other parameters can we put in addition to the numeric of
number of people raptured?
It's exciting to see when
there is a super hermetic work
difficult to deal with
and then, a figure who is obviously not used to that language
because we know who frequent our spaces
A shock! So, we've had impressive experiences
Since ladies who go to eat soup every day at 7pm
A shock! So, we've had impressive experiences
Since ladies who go to eat soup every day at 7pm
and then suddenly she comes across Pedro Galiza in the middle of the central street
and we think that, it will be whatever, she will want to crucify that person
she sits on the corner and cries.
But those are the questions of the rapture
then the rapture only of the lay public
but it is the rapture of the institutional public as well
for the people who work there, dealing with everyday life
is at the mercy of that situation which is ...
then it is surprising for us
My insistence on doing things in open spaces, always doing things for free
and doing it for everybody
it is well in that sense of forming an audience
and then audience formation, for me, is not the responsibility of the artist or the artist
it is a responsibility of the space
It is the space that needs to be concerned that people can reach
to a particular job and participate in that job in whatever way possible for her
Then, for example, because we really like to talk about Sesc
and I'm suspicious because I'm passionate about the institution
looking at the CCSP is exciting
you get there and have a crowd!
of the most varied human possibilities
that use that space regardless of the schedule
because they already brought it to them
I think the Cultural Center (CCSP) is the most beautiful,
most moving experience of occupying the city
to meet girls and boys there
that arrived without knowing what they were like "sexual option" as gender
and years later discover
it's moving
this is almost art or poetry
watch something like this
is to see how people discover themselves
maybe it's one of the most important things in a space
destined for art
Think of you as a teenager in that movement
it's up there and then they tell you:
let's go in and sit for two hours here
watching a very difficult art work?
Fuck no!
These guys, they may not go down
but they are a generation
which is already allocated to art
which developing its stuff and dancing and
and meeting in a free space, in an open space
I think
there are many things missing
but this issue of free space
of open space for you to be what you are
and ends like this
So, it's a permission, a permission
That's it
that's it, let it be (let it be who you are)
That's it
that's it, let it be (let it be who you are)
And there, regardless of judgment
and morals
because it is human (people joined, it will happen)
it will happen, it will be incredible and it will suck
but it will roll
Well I think
while we're stuck here
i'm not too worried because i'm
really expanding, brother
Yes? And then I'll do
the best for when i get out of it
I’ll get out stronger bro
or I'm going to die in the end, or I'm going to be pretty cool
"and instinctively I think I find small temporary freedoms on this path ..."
"... bringing small fleeting joys"
"but everything changes"
"everything dies and so do I"
But look, DaHouse
as well as the Cultural Center
we just let it be
it didn't have that initial intention
the opportunity for this house arose
we called some friends
look there's a space there
And then ideas came up to make experimental events
that were very low profiles
and gradually
a huge crowd started to come
like that and we had to leave because of the neighbors
I think São Paulo needs lots of spaces and spaces
of holes and independent spaces
The holes exist only you don't know
Not to say that
I live on the outskirts of the North Zone
and a space that never closed was São Bento Square
people occupies with Slam
they occupy with meetings like the Battle of Rhymes that is very similar to Slam
and it exists for a while now
everybody comes
there’s the Marginália Slam every last
Thursday of the month and you leave
subway station São Bento
Thursday of the month and you leave
subway station São Bento
there in front of the Monastery
of São Bento
has some trans, non binary people
of São Bento
has some trans, non binary people
everybody
gather there in front of a closed stool and it starts
a speaker and the everybody sits
like the Agora of Aristotle speaking
that's the image
the difference is that it is a wheel of Trans, Travestigeneres
and they are exchanging poetry, exchanging
various things, songs
You know? It's like
various things, songs
You know? It's like
has another Cultural Center
which is the Cultural Center in the North Zone
in the Cachoeirinha neighborhood, I worked there for a year and a half almost two years
and the space that works the most
is the space boardwalk
When you break the stage, wow, it's another energy
And at the same time everyone is kinder and more available, right?
I don't know if you would have accepted our invitation
at another time in the middle of madness
meetings, agendas and I don’t know what and suddenly
this availability is possible
So, as an artist
i’m very used to
to hear no more than yes
I appreciate your availability
to talk about some stuff
here with us
I only came because Mirella imposed
she said
she wanted to talk to me
Look, I didn't even want to be in that Zoom, I told Craca and he said that
if I wasn't he wouldn't
Nobody would do Mirella! Nobody would
Nobody would
It is also an opportunity for us to reflect
a lot about things, about how we were doing everything
and who knows, we have an opportunity
to be reborn in a different way
Hope so! Hope so!
We are together because I think this Pandemic story taught us
to look at our partners
I greatly appreciate the invitation
again
last bye
Pink Umbrellas
Is that so? Bye by Royals
It's a Queen Elizabeth, she does that
Kisses. Bye.
Bye guys!!
