WERE NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
BUT THIS IS FAMILIES, RIGHT?
BUT THIS IS FAMILIES, RIGHT?
>> EXACTLY.
KEIR, THANK YOU.
KEIR, THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE DRAMA AROUND YOUR
DO YOU HAVE DRAMA AROUND YOUR
WEDDING?
WEDDING?
THERES ALWAYS SOME DRAMA.
THERES ALWAYS SOME DRAMA.
NOBODY ESCAPES THE DRAMA GOING
INTO THEIR WEDDING.DRAMA GOING
INTO THEIR WEDDING.
EVEN THE QUEEN.
EVEN THE QUEEN.
THE QUEEN HAS DRAMA.
THE QUEEN HAS DRAMA.
AND THE WINDSORS HAVE HAD DRAMA
AND THE WINDSORS HAVE HAD DRAMA
IN THEIR LIVES JUST LIKE REGULAR
FOLKS.IR LIVES JUST LIKE REGULAR
FOLKS.
JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS SOME
OF THE DRAMA IS "PEOPLE"S SOME
OF THE DRAMA IS "PEOPLE"
MAGAZINES DEPUTY EDITOR DAN
MAGAZINES DEPUTY EDITOR DAN
WAKEFORD.
WAKEFORD.
THE LATEST EDITION IS TALKING
ABOUT THE WEDDING AND PRINCEG
ABOUT THE WEDDING AND PRINCE
LOUIS.
LOUIS.
HE MADE HIS DEBUT AND WAS
HE MADE HIS DEBUT AND WAS
FORGOTTEN AS WE MOVED ON TO THE
FORGOTTEN AS WE MOVED ON TO THE
WEDDING.
WEDDING.
HES STILL HERE.
HES STILL HERE.
AND FROM LONDON, WERE JOINED BY
AND FROM LONDON, WERE JOINED BY
ROYAL EDITOR AND COLUMNIST FOR
"THE SUN."OR AND COLUMNIST FOR
"THE SUN."
THE PALACE HAS NOT SPECIFICALLY
THE PALACE HAS NOT SPECIFICALLY
CONFIRMED THAT THOMAS MARKEL IS
CONFIRMED THAT THOMAS MARKEL IS
NOT COMING.
NOT COMING.
>> THEY HAVE NOT CONFIRMED THAT.
THEY ASKED FOR UNDERSTANDING IN.
THEY ASKED FOR UNDERSTANDING IN
THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION.
THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION.
THEYRE NOT COMMENTING ON
THEYRE NOT COMMENTING ON
SPECIFICS AT THIS STAGE.
SPECIFICS AT THIS STAGE.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
CAMILLA, ALL REPORTS OUTSIDE OF
THE PALACE ARE, HE HAS DECIDEDF
THE PALACE ARE, HE HAS DECIDED
NOT TO COME.
NOT TO COME.
HES EMBARRASSED BY THE
HES EMBARRASSED BY THE
PAPARAZZI PHOTOS.
PAPARAZZI PHOTOS.
MEGHAN MARKLE HAS A HALF-SISTER
MEGHAN MARKLE HAS A HALF-SISTER
AND HALF-BROTHER, WHO HAVE BEEN
AND HALF-BROTHER, WHO HAVE BEEN
VOCAL IN THE PRESS.
VOCAL IN THE PRESS.
THE HALF-BROTHER HAS BEEN VERY
THE HALF-BROTHER HAS BEEN VERY
CRUEL TO MEGHAN AND REPORTEDLY
CRUEL TO MEGHAN AND REPORTEDLY
HAS GOTTEN PAID BY A LOT OF
HAS GOTTEN PAID BY A LOT OF
TABLOIDS AND SO ON TO SAY STUFF
TABLOIDS AND SO ON TO SAY STUFF
ABOUT HER.
ABOUT HER.
AND THE HALF-SISTER WAS USED IN
THE SOUND BYTE USED BY KEIR AND
THE SOUND BYTE USED BY KEIR AND
GAVE A LONGER INTERVIEW
GAVE A LONGER INTERVIEW
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY.
I WANT TO PLAY PART OF IT.
SHE IS TRYING TO PROVIDE CONTEXT
SHE IS TRYING TO PROVIDE CONTEXT
WHY THOMAS MARKEL DID WHAT HE
WHY THOMAS MARKEL DID WHAT HE
DID.
DID.
>> AS WE KNOW THE MEDIA CAN TAKE
UNFLATTERING PHOTOGRAPHS OF TAKE
UNFLATTERING PHOTOGRAPHS OF
PEOPLE ON THEIR CASUAL DAYS AND
PEOPLE ON THEIR CASUAL DAYS AND
BLOW IT WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.
BLOW IT WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.
AN I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD
AN I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD
HAS NO IDEA THAT YOURE GETTING
HAS NO IDEA THAT YOURE GETTING
IN SHAPE.
IN SHAPE.
YOURE DOING HEALTHY THINGS.
THERES A LOT OF SCRUTINY THAT
THERES A LOT OF SCRUTINY THAT
IT WAS MONEY-MOTIVATED.
IT WAS MONEY-MOTIVATED.
IT WAS NOT.
IT WAS NOT.
IT WAS MY SUGGESTION THAT TO
IT WAS MY SUGGESTION THAT TO
BENEFIT HIM AND TO BENEFIT THE
BENEFIT HIM AND TO BENEFIT THE
ROYAL FAMILY, THAT EVERYONE LOOK
ROYAL FAMILY, THAT EVERYONE LOOK
GOOD GETTING IN SHAPE AND DOING
GOOD GETTING IN SHAPE AND DOING
HEALTHY THINGS.
HEALTHY THINGS.
>> ARE YOU CATEGORICALLY SAYING
>> ARE YOU CATEGORICALLY SAYING
THAT YOUR FATHER DID NOT RECEIVE
THAT YOUR FATHER DID NOT RECEIVE
ANY MONEY AT ALL FOR TAKING PART
ANY MONEY AT ALL FOR TAKING PART
IN THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS?
IN THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS?
>> I DONT BELIEVE SO.
>> I DONT BELIEVE SO.
AND THAT WAS NOT THE MOTIVE.
AND THAT WAS NOT THE MOTIVE.
IT WAS MY SUGGESTION.
IT WAS MY SUGGESTION.
>> I DONT BELIEVE SO?
>> I DONT BELIEVE SO?
ARE YOU CATEGORICALLY SAYING HE
ARE YOU CATEGORICALLY SAYING HE
DIDNT?
DIDNT?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
IF HE DID, I WOULD ASSUME IT WAS
A PITTANCE.I WOULD ASSUME IT WAS
A PITTANCE.
>> CAMILLA, DOES MEGHAN HAVE ANY
>> CAMILLA, DOES MEGHAN HAVE ANY
RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS SAMANTHA
RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS SAMANTHA
OR THE HALF-BROTHER?
OR THE HALF-BROTHER?
>> NOT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS,
>> NOT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS,
MEGHAN.
MEGHAN.
THIS IS UNFORTUNATE.
WEVE SEEN THEM COME AGAIN AND
WEVE SEEN THEM COME AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND GIVE STORIES TO THE
AGAIN AND GIVE STORIES TO THE
PRESS.
PRESS.
THE SYMPATHY WILL BE WITH MEGHAN
THE SYMPATHY WILL BE WITH MEGHAN
AND HER DAD.
AND HER DAD.
IT WONT BE FOR THE PAPARAZZI.
FROM A JOURNALISTIC PERSPECTIVE,
FROM A JOURNALISTIC PERSPECTIVE,
WE SAY, THIS IS AWKWARD BECAUSE
WE SAY, THIS IS AWKWARD BECAUSE
MR. MARKEL WOULD HAVE TAKEN
MR. MARKEL WOULD HAVE TAKEN
MONEY TO POSE UP FOR SHOTS.
MONEY TO POSE UP FOR SHOTS.
ONLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
ONLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
KENSINGTON PALACE SENT US A
KENSINGTON PALACE SENT US A
DIRECTIVE SAYING PLEASE RESPECT
DIRECTIVE SAYING PLEASE RESPECT
HIS PRIVACY.
HIS PRIVACY.
THAT LOOKS HYPOCRITICAL NOW.
THAT LOOKS HYPOCRITICAL NOW.
AND IT LEAVES THE ROYAL COUPLE
AND IT LEAVES THE ROYAL COUPLE
IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
>> AND THE REPORTS ARE, THAT THE
>> AND THE REPORTS ARE, THAT THE
SISTER, SAMANTHA, CHANGED HER
SISTER, SAMANTHA, CHANGED HER
NAME BACK TO MARKEL AFTER MEGHAN
NAME BACK TO MARKEL AFTER MEGHAN
AND HARRY GOT ENGAGED.
AND HARRY GOT ENGAGED.
AND THAT SHE AND THIS
HALF-BROTHER HAVE BEEN SO
HALF-BROTHER HAVE BEEN SO
CRITICAL AND QUICK TO COMMENT ON
CRITICAL AND QUICK TO COMMENT ON
A LOT OF PUBLICATIONS THAT PAY
A LOT OF PUBLICATIONS THAT PAY
YOU.
YOU.
THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEYRE
TALKING ABOUT. WHAT THEYRE
TALKING ABOUT.
>> MEGHAN DIDNT REALLY HAVE A
>> MEGHAN DIDNT REALLY HAVE A
STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH HER
STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH HER
EVER.
EVER.
THEY LEFT THE HOUSE BY THE TIME
THEY LEFT THE HOUSE BY THE TIME
MEGHAN WAS BORN.
MEGHAN WAS BORN.
>> WAS SHE PART OF A SECOND
FAMILY?SHE PART OF A SECOND
FAMILY?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
SECOND FAMILY, EXACTLY.
>> IF THOMAS MARKEL CHOOSES NOT
>> IF THOMAS MARKEL CHOOSES NOT
TO GO, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
TO GO, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
PALACE AND MEGHAN ARE HOPING
PALACE AND MEGHAN ARE HOPING
THAT HE WILL CHANGE HIS MIND AND
THAT HE WILL CHANGE HIS MIND AND
GO.
GO.
ITS FORGIVEN.
ITS FORGIVEN.
ITS FORGOTTEN.
ITS FORGOTTEN.
YOU KNOW HOW WEDDINGS, DRAMA,
BUT EVERYTHING IS FORGOTTEN THE
BUT EVERYTHING IS FORGOTTEN THE
DAY OF.
DAY OF.
>> EXACTLY.
>> IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO GO, IS
>> IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO GO, IS
THERE A CHANCE HER MOM WILL WALK
THERE A CHANCE HER MOM WILL WALK
HER DOWN THE AISLE?
HER DOWN THE AISLE?
>> THATS A CHANCE.
>> THATS A CHANCE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF MEGHAN
I LIKE THE IDEA OF MEGHAN
WALKING DOWN THE AISLE ON HER
WALKING DOWN THE AISLE ON HER
OWN.
OWN.
SHES ABOUT WOMENS EMPOWERMENT.
SHES ABOUT WOMENS EMPOWERMENT.
THERES PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN
THERES PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN
THE ROYAL FAMILY.
PRINCESS MARGARET DIDNT HAVE
PRINCESS MARGARET DIDNT HAVE
HER FATHER WALK HER DOWN THE
HER FATHER WALK HER DOWN THE
AISLE BECAUSE HE HAD PASSED.
AISLE BECAUSE HE HAD PASSED.
AND THE BROTHER-IN-LAW WALKED
AND THE BROTHER-IN-LAW WALKED
HER DOWN THE AISLE.
HER DOWN THE AISLE.
PRINCE PHILIP COULD DO
PRINCE PHILIP COULD DO
DOUBLE-DUTY.
DOUBLE-DUTY.
>> PRINCE CHARLES COULD DO IT?
>> PRINCE CHARLES COULD DO IT?
>> PRINCE CHARLES OR PRINCE
>> PRINCE CHARLES OR PRINCE
PHILIP.
PHILIP.
HE JUST HAD A HIP OPERATION WASB
HES DOING WELL.IP OPERATION WASB
HES DOING WELL.
>> I FEEL FOR MEGHAN MARKEL BUT
IT FEELS LIKE IT IS ONE OF THET
IT FEELS LIKE IT IS ONE OF THE
STARS ARE JUST LIKE US MOMENTS.
STARS ARE JUST LIKE US MOMENTS.
OH, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD.
IT MAKES YOU LIKE THEM MORE
BECAUSE THEY SEEM LIKE REAL
BECAUSE THEY SEEM LIKE REAL
TEAM.
TEAM.
>> THIS HAS BEEN A SOAP OPERA
FOR YEARS.S BEEN A SOAP OPERA
FOR YEARS.
WORSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED WITH
WORSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED WITH
THE ROYAL FAMILY.
THE ROYAL FAMILY.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO CONCERN THE
THIS IS NOT GOING TO CONCERN THE
PALACE.
PALACE.
I THINK THERE WILL BE CONCERN
I THINK THERE WILL BE CONCERN
FOR MEGHAN.
FOR MEGHAN.
THIS WILL BE A DIFFICULT TIME.
PRINCESS DIANA STRUGGLED WHEN.
PRINCESS DIANA STRUGGLED WHEN
ASSIMILATEING INTO THE MONARCHY.
ASSIMILATEING INTO THE MONARCHY.
AND THERES CONCERN THAT MEGHAN
AND THERES CONCERN THAT MEGHAN
HAS SUPPORT THAT SHE NEEDS.
HAS SUPPORT THAT SHE NEEDS.
>> YOU CANT HELP BUT REMEMBER
>> YOU CANT HELP BUT REMEMBER
AS YOU MADE REFERENCE TO THE
AS YOU MADE REFERENCE TO THE
PAPARAZZI AND WHAT THEY DID TO
PAPARAZZI AND WHAT THEY DID TO
DIANA.
DIANA.
AND WHAT POOR PRINCE HARRY HAS
TO THINK ABOUT IN SEEING THEAS
TO THINK ABOUT IN SEEING THE
PAPARAZZI ALL OVER THOMAS
PAPARAZZI ALL OVER THOMAS
MARKEL.
MARKEL.
WHATEVER HIS REASONS WERE,
WHATEVER HIS REASONS WERE,
WHETHER IT WAS FINANCIAL OR
WHETHER IT WAS FINANCIAL OR
BECAUSE HE WANTED TO CHANGE HIS
BECAUSE HE WANTED TO CHANGE HIS
IMAGE, THEY HAVE BEEN ALL OVER
HER FAMILY. HAVE BEEN ALL OVER
HER FAMILY.
AND THATS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BUY
AND THATS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BUY
INTO IF YOU JOIN THE ROYAL
INTO IF YOU JOIN THE ROYAL
FAMILY.
FAMILY.
BUT AT WHAT COST?
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PRINCE
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PRINCE
HARRY WILL HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH
HARRY WILL HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH
ALONG WITH MEGHAN.
ALONG WITH MEGHAN.
>> I THINK SO.
>> I THINK SO.
THINK BACK TO WHEN THE NEWS OF
THINK BACK TO WHEN THE NEWS OF
THEIR RELATIONSHIP BROKE AND
THEIR RELATIONSHIP BROKE AND
PRINCE HARRY WROTE THAT
PRINCE HARRY WROTE THAT
UNPRECEDENTED STATEMENT SAYING,
UNPRECEDENTED STATEMENT SAYING,
PLEASE LEAVE MEGHAN AND HER
PLEASE LEAVE MEGHAN AND HER
FAMILY ALONE.
FAMILY ALONE.
I NEED TO PROTECT HER.
I NEED TO PROTECT HER.
AND THAT STEMS FROM HIS
AND THAT STEMS FROM HIS
CHILDHOOD.
CHILDHOOD.
HIM AND WILLIAM ARE VERY MUCH
PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PRESERVE THE
PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PRESERVE THE
PRIVACY OF THOSE PEOPLE AROUND
PRIVACY OF THOSE PEOPLE AROUND
HIM.
HIM.
THEY FEEL THAT THE MEDIA CAN
SOMETIMES BE THE ENEMY.A CAN
SOMETIMES BE THE ENEMY.
AND SOMETIMES THE PHOTOGRAPHY OF
AND SOMETIMES THE PHOTOGRAPHY OF
THOMAS MARKEL HAS BEEN
THOMAS MARKEL HAS BEEN
INTRUSIVE.
INTRUSIVE.
HE WAS THERE, BUYING STUFF FROM
HE WAS THERE, BUYING STUFF FROM
7-ELEVEN AND BEING PHOTOGRAPHED.
HIS DAUGHTER SAID THEY WEREPHED.
HIS DAUGHTER SAID THEY WERE
COMPLICIT TO MAKE THE IMAGERY
COMPLICIT TO MAKE THE IMAGERY
LOOK HIM BETTER.
LOOK HIM BETTER.
BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
FIVE MINUTES AGO, HE WAS A
FIVE MINUTES AGO, HE WAS A
RECLUSIVE MAN LIVING A QUIET
RECLUSIVE MAN LIVING A QUIET
LIFE IN NEW MEXICO.
LIFE IN NEW MEXICO.
NOW, HES BEEN ABSOLUTELY
NOW, HES BEEN ABSOLUTELY
PLUNGED INTO THE LIMELIGHT.
PLUNGED INTO THE LIMELIGHT.
AND HES VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH
AND HES VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH
THAT.
THAT.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL
SYMPATHIZE WITH HIS POSITION.
SYMPATHIZE WITH HIS POSITION.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK ABOUT WHAT MY OWN FAMILY
I THINK ABOUT WHAT MY OWN FAMILY
WOULD DO IF THE PAPARAZZI WERE
WOULD DO IF THE PAPARAZZI WERE
FOLLOWING THEM AROUND IN THE
FOLLOWING THEM AROUND IN THE
7-ELEVEN AND SEEING WHAT THEYRE
7-ELEVEN AND SEEING WHAT THEYRE
BUYING.
BUYING.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU BUY AT THE
7-ELEVEN OR THE CVS. BUY AT THE
7-ELEVEN OR THE CVS.
DO YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER?
DO YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER?
NO.
NO.
ME, EITHER.
