>>> WE ARE BACK WITH IN-DEPTH
>>> WE ARE BACK WITH IN-DEPTH TODAY THIS MORNING, NEW
TODAY THIS MORNING, NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CASE OF
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CASE OF DEATH ROW INMATE RODNEY REED.
DEATH ROW INMATE RODNEY REED. >> HIS EXECUTION HAS BEEN PUT ON
>> HIS EXECUTION HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD INDEFINITELY.
HOLD INDEFINITELY. KIM KARDASHIAN WEST IS ONE OF
KIM KARDASHIAN WEST IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT
THE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THE CASE.
ATTENTION TO THE CASE. AND JENNA SAT DOWN WITH HER.
AND JENNA SAT DOWN WITH HER. >> RODNEY WAS SCHEDULED TO BE
>> RODNEY WAS SCHEDULED TO BE EXECUTED ON WEDNESDAY, BUT ON
EXECUTED ON WEDNESDAY, BUT ON FRIDAY HIS LEGAL TEAM SCORED A
FRIDAY HIS LEGAL TEAM SCORED A MAJOR VICTORY, AND KIM
MAJOR VICTORY, AND KIM KARDASHIAN WEST WAS WITH REED
KARDASHIAN WEST WAS WITH REED WHEN HE FOUND OUT.
WHEN HE FOUND OUT. >> WHEN WE GOT THE NEWS IT WAS
>> WHEN WE GOT THE NEWS IT WAS JUST THIS LIKE OVERWHELMING SIGH
JUST THIS LIKE OVERWHELMING SIGH OF RELIEF, AND HOPE.
OF RELIEF, AND HOPE. >> WHAT DID HE SAY?
>> WHAT DID HE SAY? WHAT DID HIS FACE LOOK LIKE?
WHAT DID HIS FACE LOOK LIKE? >> IT WAS EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL,
>> IT WAS EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL, AND HE SAID PRAISE JESUS.
AND HE SAID PRAISE JESUS. AND HE SAID IT SO, JUST, I COULD
AND HE SAID IT SO, JUST, I COULD JUST FEEL HIS SOUL WHEN HE SAID
JUST FEEL HIS SOUL WHEN HE SAID THAT.
THAT. >> RODNEY REED WAS SCHEDULED TO
>> RODNEY REED WAS SCHEDULED TO BE EXECUTED THIS WEDNESDAY FOR
BE EXECUTED THIS WEDNESDAY FOR THE 1996 MURDER OF 19-YEAR-OLD
THE 1996 MURDER OF 19-YEAR-OLD STACY STITES.
STACY STITES. HE HAS LONG CLAIMED HE AND
HE HAS LONG CLAIMED HE AND STITES AT THE TIME WERE HAVING
STITES AT THE TIME WERE HAVING AN AFFAIR BUT HE SAYS HE DID NOT
AN AFFAIR BUT HE SAYS HE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER DEATH.
DEATH. ON FRIDAY, AFTER MASSIVE PUBLIC
ON FRIDAY, AFTER MASSIVE PUBLIC ATTENTION WAS PAID TO THE CASE,
ATTENTION WAS PAID TO THE CASE, THE TEXAS BOARD OF PARDONS AND
THE TEXAS BOARD OF PARDONS AND PAROLES RECOMMENDED 120 DAY STAY
PAROLES RECOMMENDED 120 DAY STAY OF EXECUTION.
OF EXECUTION. THE SAME DAY TEXAS COURT OF
THE SAME DAY TEXAS COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS AGREED TO HALT
CRIMINAL APPEALS AGREED TO HALT THE EXECUTION INDEFINITELY
THE EXECUTION INDEFINITELY CITING CLAIMS OF NEW EVIDENCE IN
CITING CLAIMS OF NEW EVIDENCE IN THE CASE.
THE CASE. KIM KARDASHIAN WEST FIRST
KIM KARDASHIAN WEST FIRST LEARNED OF REED’S CASE ON
LEARNED OF REED’S CASE ON TWITTER, AND LAST MONTH SHE SENT
TWITTER, AND LAST MONTH SHE SENT THIS TWEET TO TEXAS GOVERNOR
THIS TWEET TO TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT URGING HIM TO IN HER
GREG ABBOTT URGING HIM TO IN HER WORDS, DO THE RIGHT THING.
WORDS, DO THE RIGHT THING. >> TWEETING SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
>> TWEETING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU MUST TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
YOU MUST TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. YOU CAN’T JUST TWEET SOMETHING
YOU CAN’T JUST TWEET SOMETHING LIKE THAT UNLESS YOU’RE CERTAIN
LIKE THAT UNLESS YOU’RE CERTAIN THE CASE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
THE CASE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. >> YES, SO I WILL USUALLY GO TO
>> YES, SO I WILL USUALLY GO TO A LENGTH OF SPEAKING WITH EITHER
A LENGTH OF SPEAKING WITH EITHER THE PERSON OR THEIR FAMILY
THE PERSON OR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS AND MY GROUP OF
MEMBERS AND MY GROUP OF ATTORNEYS BEFORE I DO SOMETHING
ATTORNEYS BEFORE I DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT. I REALLY AM STRATEGIC WHEN I AM
I REALLY AM STRATEGIC WHEN I AM TWEETING ABOUT SOMEONE’S LIFE.
TWEETING ABOUT SOMEONE’S LIFE. >> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK
>> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK ATTENTION COULD HELP.
ATTENTION COULD HELP. I NEVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING IF I
I NEVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING IF I FEEL LIKE IT CAN HINDER A CASE.
FEEL LIKE IT CAN HINDER A CASE. >> BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT
>> BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT HELP, IS THAT RIGHT?
HELP, IS THAT RIGHT? >> I THINK THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL
>> I THINK THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE MAYBE A GOVERNOR WOULDN’T
LIKE MAYBE A GOVERNOR WOULDN’T WANT THE PRESSURE FROM MAYBE
WANT THE PRESSURE FROM MAYBE TALKING TO A CELEBRITY ABOUT A
TALKING TO A CELEBRITY ABOUT A SITUATION.
SITUATION. I KNOW THAT HAVING SUPPORT IS
I KNOW THAT HAVING SUPPORT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THE MOST
REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THE MOST AMAZING THING I SAW THAT CAME
AMAZING THING I SAW THAT CAME FROM THIS CASE WAS THE
FROM THIS CASE WAS THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. I MEAN, YOU HAD EVERYONE FROM
I MEAN, YOU HAD EVERYONE FROM TED CRUZ TO SEAN KING ON THIS
TED CRUZ TO SEAN KING ON THIS CASE AND REALLY SETTING UP
CASE AND REALLY SETTING UP PETITIONS WHERE MILLIONS OF
PETITIONS WHERE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SIGN THEM.
PEOPLE SIGN THEM. THEY SAY THAT IT TAKES A
THEY SAY THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE, BUT IT REALLY TAKES A
VILLAGE, BUT IT REALLY TAKES A COUNTRY, AND IT SHOWED IN THIS
COUNTRY, AND IT SHOWED IN THIS CASE.
CASE. >> THE VICTIM’S OWN MOTHER AND
>> THE VICTIM’S OWN MOTHER AND SISTERS HAVE SAID THEY THINK
SISTERS HAVE SAID THEY THINK RODNEY WAS THE MURDERER, WHAT DO
RODNEY WAS THE MURDERER, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?
YOU SAY TO THEM? >> I’M COMPLETELY SEMPYMPATHETIC
>> I’M COMPLETELY SEMPYMPATHETIC WITH THE VICTIM’S FAMILY.
WITH THE VICTIM’S FAMILY. I THINK WHAT WOULD I DO.
I THINK WHAT WOULD I DO. I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THROUGH DNA
I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THROUGH DNA EVIDENCE THAT ALL THE FACTS WERE
EVIDENCE THAT ALL THE FACTS WERE COMPLETELY ACCURATE.
COMPLETELY ACCURATE. >> YOU HAVE FOUR KIDS, I NOTICE
>> YOU HAVE FOUR KIDS, I NOTICE YOUR PASSION FOR THIS WORK
YOUR PASSION FOR THIS WORK REALLY CAME AFTER YOU BECAME A
REALLY CAME AFTER YOU BECAME A MOM.
MOM. DO YOU THINK THE TWO HAD
DO YOU THINK THE TWO HAD SOMETHING IN COMMON, DID THEY
SOMETHING IN COMMON, DID THEY CHANGE YOUR PERCEPTION ON LIFE,
CHANGE YOUR PERCEPTION ON LIFE, ON HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE
ON HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE CARE ABOUT OTHERS?
CARE ABOUT OTHERS? >> I ABSOLUTELY THINK THEY DID.
>> I ABSOLUTELY THINK THEY DID. I MEAN, WHEN YOU BECOME A MOM,
I MEAN, WHEN YOU BECOME A MOM, YOU BECOME SO PROTECTIVE.
YOU BECOME SO PROTECTIVE. YOU WANT TO HOPEFULLY MAKE THEIR
YOU WANT TO HOPEFULLY MAKE THEIR WORLD THE MOST PERFECT PLACE
WORLD THE MOST PERFECT PLACE EVER, AND OURS OBVIOUSLY ISN’T,
EVER, AND OURS OBVIOUSLY ISN’T, AND I DEFINITELY SEE HOW
AND I DEFINITELY SEE HOW ESPECIALLY, LIKE, BLACK MEN ARE
ESPECIALLY, LIKE, BLACK MEN ARE TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY STILL
TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY STILL DIFFERENTLY, AND I’M RAISING TWO
DIFFERENTLY, AND I’M RAISING TWO BLACK MEN, AND SO I WANT TO MAKE
BLACK MEN, AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY WORLD AND THEIR
SURE THAT MY WORLD AND THEIR WORLD IS AS SAFE AND AS FAIR AS
WORLD IS AS SAFE AND AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. >> WAS THERE A MOMENT, WAS THERE
>> WAS THERE A MOMENT, WAS THERE A CATALYST WHEN YOU KNEW YOU
A CATALYST WHEN YOU KNEW YOU WANTED TO GET INTO CRIMINAL
WANTED TO GET INTO CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM.
JUSTICE REFORM. >> YEAH, ALICE.
>> YEAH, ALICE. >> ALICE IS ALICE MARIE JOHNSON
>> ALICE IS ALICE MARIE JOHNSON WHO WAS SERVING A LIFE SENTENCE
WHO WAS SERVING A LIFE SENTENCE FOR A NONVIOLENT DRUG SENTENCE.
FOR A NONVIOLENT DRUG SENTENCE. HODA SPOKE WITH THEM BOTH
HODA SPOKE WITH THEM BOTH SHORTLY AFTER JOHNSON’S RELEASE.
SHORTLY AFTER JOHNSON’S RELEASE. >> I LOVE THIS WOMAN.
>> I LOVE THIS WOMAN. >> I LOVE THIS LADY.
>> I LOVE THIS LADY. >> KIM WAS A FIERCE JOHNSON
>> KIM WAS A FIERCE JOHNSON SUPPORTER AND WENT ALL THE WAY
SUPPORTER AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIGHT FOR
TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIGHT FOR HER FREEDOM.
HER FREEDOM. >> I ALWAYS SAY, ALICE FOUND ME,
>> I ALWAYS SAY, ALICE FOUND ME, AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON
AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER.
THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER. IT’S JUST BEEN SUCH A JOURNEY
IT’S JUST BEEN SUCH A JOURNEY THAT I DIDN’T EVER IMAGINE THAT
THAT I DIDN’T EVER IMAGINE THAT I WOULD BE ON BUT I’M SO GLAD
I WOULD BE ON BUT I’M SO GLAD THAT I AM, AND I JUST LOVE THAT
THAT I AM, AND I JUST LOVE THAT WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO JUST GET A
WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO JUST GET A LOT OF WORK DONE AND I JUST
LOT OF WORK DONE AND I JUST DON’T WANT TO STOP THAT.
DON’T WANT TO STOP THAT. >> JENNA, SHE’S OBVIOUSLY FOUND
>> JENNA, SHE’S OBVIOUSLY FOUND HER PASSION.
HER PASSION. SHE’S STUDYING TO BE A LAWYER.
SHE’S STUDYING TO BE A LAWYER. WHAT IS HER PLAN?
WHAT IS HER PLAN? WHAT’S HER ULTIMATE PLAN WITH
WHAT’S HER ULTIMATE PLAN WITH THIS.
THIS. >> SHE HAS NO INTENTION OF
>> SHE HAS NO INTENTION OF STOPPING, AS YOU CAN SEE.
STOPPING, AS YOU CAN SEE. SHE’S EXTREMELY PASSIONATE.
SHE’S EXTREMELY PASSIONATE. SHE’S ACTUALLY WORKING WITH
SHE’S ACTUALLY WORKING WITH RODNEY REED’S LEGAL TEAM AS PART
RODNEY REED’S LEGAL TEAM AS PART OF HER APPRENTICESHIP.
OF HER APPRENTICESHIP. I MET TWO LAWYERS THAT HELPED
I MET TWO LAWYERS THAT HELPED TRAIN HER IN THE BAR, AND THEY
TRAIN HER IN THE BAR, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULDN’T BELIEVE THAT
SAID THEY WOULDN’T BELIEVE THAT SHE ACTUALLY DIDN’T CHEAT ON
SHE ACTUALLY DIDN’T CHEAT ON SOME OF THOSE TESTS IF THEY
SOME OF THOSE TESTS IF THEY WEREN’T WAPGTCHING IT BECAUSE
WEREN’T WAPGTCHING IT BECAUSE SHE’S SO TALENTED.
SHE’S SO TALENTED. HER HOPE IS TO OPEN A LAW FIRM
HER HOPE IS TO OPEN A LAW FIRM TO WORK WITH PEOPLE LIKE ALICE,
TO WORK WITH PEOPLE LIKE ALICE, THOSE WHO WERE FORMALLY
THOSE WHO WERE FORMALLY INCARCERATED.
INCARCERATED. SHE’S NEVER SEEN PEOPLE THAT ARE
SHE’S NEVER SEEN PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE THOROUGH IN THE LAW THAN
MORE THOROUGH IN THE LAW THAN THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED
THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. >> I WOULD IMAGINE SHE PROBABLY
>> I WOULD IMAGINE SHE PROBABLY HEARS FROM LOTS OF FOLKS WHO ARE
HEARS FROM LOTS OF FOLKS WHO ARE INCARCERATED NOW.
INCARCERATED NOW. >> SHE DOES.
