The new evidence cannot be refuted we are living in its simulated environment
Every ancient and indigenous tradition they all say that we are here learning something because we're going to go somewhere else
We are
Connected to a greater community outside of the simulation
Here's the question. Why?
Obviously we're here for a reason maybe to raise this collective consciousness
Maybe to evolve to learn faster to potentially get out of some
prices
We are trying to solve the problems of the world
Through a thinking based on false assumptions of obsolete science such as Darwin's ideas
That nature's based upon competition
in conflict
We're seeing the rise of hate in ways that we've never seen
It's not natural
Nature's primary rule is cooperation
What would it be like?
to raise an entire generation of young people
Based upon what we now know to be true in science
We have everything that we need to transcend not to survive
We have the ability to choose and so the new question is will you change it?
They say that the human race is doomed that we have lost touch with our true nature
That the media has corrupted us and that the planet has the future. I
Disagree I
believe that humanity is full of hope and
that our salvation
Lies within each one of us
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The guy's got such incredible energy such incredible ideas
And he's got big ideas about where us humans came from he rejects this theory of evolution
That Darwin came from and he rejects this idea of competition over
Cooperation and once you start looking at some of his evidence you really start to question. What?
Science tells us today
And on top of that me and Gregg went deep down the rabbit hole
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This is London real I am brian rose
My guest today is Greg Brayton the New York Times bestselling author researcher educator and lecturer
You're known as a pioneer in bringing modern science ancient wisdom and human potential
who's been invited to speak in front of the United Nations fortune 500 companies in the US military your books include the GOG Code the
Divine matrix fractal time deep truth human by design and your latest the new human story Greg, welcome back to London real Brian
I'm thrilled to be here and it seems like only yesterday
that we were here doing this and I'm I'm looking forward to going a little deeper and elaborating on on some of the
The topics we covered a lot of ground
last time we were together and we have a lot of good feedback and it seems from that feedback that people wanted to go a
Little deeper. Yeah in the some of the material. So thank you for having me back. No, it was great
People really love your energy and a lot of your ideas
I want to go deep on that stuff, you know, welcome back even back to London now a second time fairly quickly. Yeah
Uh, I got the city. I love this. You do tell me more about that. Why what's you know, I
I
When I get my Excel spreadsheet that has my travel itinerary and you know
We're all over the world and and every city is good and the people the people are just amazing and in every city
I've just come from Bucharest Romania and where people just turned out and they are so open to new ideas
But we're nice Londyn. I always get this same smile I have right now. It's big smile on my face. Yeah
I know it feels like home right when I come here. So to me, it's a warm city
People have always been so kind to me not not just in our audiences
but everyone that I interact with from when I come into the airport, you know that the hotels and the drivers and
There's just a vibe here in the city and and I love being here and it has a great music scene
We were just talking about this. I'm a musician when I'm not doing that
I'm doing now and I love the music here as well
So you put it all together and you just got an awesome city. There you go
Next time we're gonna get you to play some music. All right
So you've got an event and a new book coming out called the new human story and you're talking about you know this weekend
I think some some interesting practices that you take people through
And I what if you could talk about some of that energy and longevity and some of those things yeah
well, this this is the point the the new book is called human by design and
We covered a little bit that material in a previous interview and so just to summarize some of that
It's essentially the book is divided into two parts
the first part of the book I
Wanted people to have the science not not necessarily the technical details
I didn't make it hard to read but I wanted them to have the science
That tells them beyond any reasonable doubt that the story that we've been told about our origin and our potential
Is no longer supported by the evidence
so for me when the evidence no longer supports the story it's time for a new story and that is
Hence, the the new human story. So the first part of the book is the science that is showing us the peer-reviewed science
So it's not just my theory or my hypothesis
It is the peer-reviewed science that's showing us that the physical evidence does not support
The story that we are all being told we're steeped in this story of Darwin's idea of evolution
and as a degree geologist Brian I've seen evolution in the fossil record and it is a fact
for some forms of life insects animals plants
Something so mysterious happened 200 thousand years ago. We appeared an
Evolution is not what led to our appearance the the theory breaks down the physical evidence doesn't support it
Where I get really excited
because we've known for a long time the physical evidence didn't support it where I get really excited is the new DNA evidence that
cannot be refuted and
It is causing
Scientists, it's it's a problem for scientists who are steeped in the evolutionary theory of long slow gradual
changes over a long period of time
Because that's not what happened. We appeared
Relatively suddenly 200,000 years ago with this advanced
genetic
structure and this
amazing
Extended neural network unlike any other form of life is known to have and the discoveries are still coming
So there are discoveries that are so new. There's discovery I can share with you right now. That was not
Made available until after we filmed in October. Okay. What is it?
So so one of the things that we're seeing when when modern humans appeared 200,000 years ago
We showed up suddenly with this brain 50% larger than any other primate, but that didn't happen slowly and gradually
We had a neocortex. That was a six layer
Neocortex and the sixth layer is really interesting because this is where a lot of the innovation is coming from
But we had a brain 50% larger than any other form of primate in the form of life
Previously, we had the same body proportions. We have the same nervous system that we have now
So there's obviously been an evolution in consciousness
I think we have to say that but we are wired today the way we were when we
Appeared and what scientists say Brian is that?
It appears that
We are the result of some kind of an intervention
that the biology appears to be intentional that evolution the evolutionary process cannot account for the complexity of
The changes and the fact that the change has happened
so many changes happened so quickly in such a brief period of time and all at the same time, so
Human chromosome number two we talked about before is is responsible for this brain 50% larger than any other
Primate brain chromosome seven at the same time underwent mutations that allow complex speech
And in the way that no other form of life
Can can have and that's that's why we sing in chimpanzees. Don't sing as a musician. That's I've always wondered
You know, why aren't chimpanzees singing right?
because they sure not even 90% of our DNA and most of the scientific community chops this
Sudden rapid growth in brain size up to what cooked food or changing in social habits, or you know, what is it?
What is the usual scientific because there is this period that everyone agrees where there was this massive change?
In the human anatomy or in what we know there is and so we're the scientific community is right now
is there an agreement that we appeared two hundred thousand years ago that that is
accepted as homo sapiens as homeless as as we are today and the Neanderthals were already there their business about the lucien that well this
Is where it gets really interesting
because now that we are able to do
scientifically what used to be science fiction, we now can extract the DNA from the bone marrow of
The beings that we believed were our ancestors including Neanderthal
Just like in the movie Jurassic Park that movie was science fiction when it was created and it is now science fact
We can extract the DNA now in the movie. They reconstituted the DNA and brought those forms of life
To life into the best of my knowledge. We have not done that right?
Well, we will only one day I would imagine that we're trying well
I say we not you and me but I would imagine I I think if if it can be tested it's probably being tested
Somewhere, but what we can do and what is happening is that scientists are able to pull that DNA from the bone marrow?
from the ribs for example of a Neanderthal
infant, baby girl
that was found in northern Europe thirty thousand years old as her body was dated thirty thousand years before present and
When they compared her DNA to our modern DNA today, lo and behold there is not enough similarity
There's not enough overlap
And this was published in the journal Nature now, they made the discovery in 1987, but they didn't publish it until the year 2000
Okay, this is a very prestigious journal nature
Page 490 on I believe it's volume 4, right?
But this doesn't surprise you because you have friends in science
And when you confront them with this obvious evidence, they just say I can't commute compute it
Sometimes they're even they're conscious brain says it must be wrong because it flies in the face of everything they are and everything
That they stand well
this is this is where
Scientists are really up against against the brick wall here because the evidence is no longer supporting the old story
So so now we know that that Neanderthal is not our ancestor
We we shared the earth with them right which is why I have an and without DNA and we guessing you do too
Yes, most many of us. Do not most what many of us do if you do something like ancestry.com
Or 23andme or something like that
We will see that Neanderthal DNA because we we interbred with them
They say we probably had Neanderthal boyfriends and girlfriends at that time
But if we share the earth with them we could not have descended from them
So we know who we are not and we are not descendants of Neanderthal or the other forms of life that we typically see on
the
evolutionary charts
What we have to say is that we actually probably don't even fit on that tree
We're probably our own tree a very small tree like a bush because there's no evolutionary
Path leading to our appearance 200,000 years ago and that's a problem for science, right?
This is back to the kind of the story in the Bible then that we well we don't know but this is the first half
Of the book is I wanted to share the peer-reviewed science that simply is not trickling down into the mainstream
So you're not seeing the mainstream classrooms textbooks?
Mainstream cable television documentaries are not even showing this stuff
Okay, but if it's true, it's only a matter of time until it gets out
It should be the second half of the book then I wanted
To go beyond the evidence that shows what we are not we are not the product of evolution
I wanted to show what is the potential that we were imbued with when we appeared?
200,000 years ago and and what the scientific community those that are honest about the evidence what they're saying is that
The the genetic changes are so complex
They appeared so quickly they appear to be intentional and if they are intentional they imply a purpose
So my question is what is purpose of this?
expanded neural network that we have and and the ability to consciously
self-regulate our biology in the way that no other form of life can do
What does that afford us? What kind of doors does that open for us in practical terms? How can we how can we
Embrace these what I call internal technologies and our everyday lives to make our lives healthier
happier more productive
safer
And so that's what the second part of the book is all about
Ok, so and they to me, they go together very well
Now there there are a lot of scientists that say to me only when we find out
Where we came from?
can we really know what our potential is and I'm doing just the opposite my sense is if
We follow the evidence if we follow that DNA, we work backwards reverse engineer
What did it take for that DNA to to become the DNA?
That is what what had to happen and we'll talk about this a little bit more detail
What had to happen for the fusions to occur? And
portions of the DNA being removed and portions of what had to happen to
Make those those things occur and I think as we work backwards it's going to lead us
To the answer of who we are where we come but you must have a hypothesis
And the last time I asked you because yeah, there's only a few answers right we must came from somewhere else
There was some you know, super intelligent beam that just decided to gene splicer sand put us back
There are three potentials that scientists are looking at right now
We didn't talk about these last time one is that everything is completely natural
evolution as we've been led to believe even though the evidence doesn't support that so
So there's a battle playing out right now Brian to hang on to what is called the standard model
That is the standard model in physics. It says the Big Bang was this primal release of energy
we don't know what happened and it was a completely natural process and within the Big Bang the
Evolutionary Big Bang is is is when we appeared
completely through natural processes that that's one theory the evidence doesn't support that another theory that we haven't even talked about is
that we are living in a
or a simulated environment
a
In other words, it's a virtual reality that we're living in we can talk more about it
Unless talks a little bit about this. Well Yvonne musk is talking a lot about it and in 2001
The first scientific algorithm was designed to
attempt to determine whether we are or we are not living in a virtual or simulated reality and
what they did was they created the variables that take into account everything that we see happening in the world today from physical parameters and
Physics parameters to social parameters and you know climate and everything that's happening and they plugged it into this this algorithm
And the algorithm said that the odds are much greater that we are living in a simulated reality than that
We are not because it couldn't actually identify real randomness. Is that what it looks for?
because you know if you build
This something inside the simulation to see if it's simulation. You would think it's flawed by design as a scientist
It could be and these are some of the philosophical questions that come into this
I tried to explain this to my 14 year old stepdaughter the other day and I said
You know, we could be living in a simulation and she plays Sims
She plays those games and and I just heard you on musk
Talk on Joe Rogan and ice explained it to her as in do you not agree that ten years and now fifty years from now
That the technology as it's growing is gonna be able to create a simulation
that's probably as real as this and most people might go down that and say yeah in a hundred years we would be there and
Then he you know, he kind of backs out that argument by then saying is it not possible?
We're in a simulation now. That's one way of looking
well
it's one way so so
This is a second theory that is here and I just want to bring it back home
The third theory is that there has been some kind of a natural creation. So a natural Big Bang
Evolution did begin but there has been some kind of an intervention
A conscious intervention at some point in the past where DNA was manipulated in a way to create
To give us capabilities in other forms of life. Okay capabilities dimmer head. So these are the three things that science released
So kind of non-committal on that third one, like where could that have come from?
Well or some combination of those three, maybe there is an artificial
Vert a reality and in that virtual reality this intervention has happened. So this is where scientists are today
So they're looking at these three potentials all natural are all artificial or natural with an intervention
so coming back to the
Very different possible. They are very different possibilities the simulation theory. It's interesting
because
where I have entire presentations that I've done on this I do that's a two day program and
when we compare if you look at the definition of a simulation and
you look at the definition of life and
Our environment in our most ancient and cherished spiritual and religious traditions. The similarities are striking
They all say that this world is is temporary
That we are here learning something because we're going to go somewhere else
That is what a simulation is all about
the definition of a simulation is is
That you allow you have the opportunity
To learn something new in a relatively safe environment that you will need when you get to the next environment. So whether you're an
airline pilot learning how to land a you know, a Boeing 747 and crosswinds
You don't want the first time you do that to be with you know, 300 people on the plane
So you're in the simulator or if you're on the Martian surface?
Or the lunar surface these all happen in simulators. So yeah, the
Simulations this is really interesting because simulations have a beginning and they have an end
They have rules that
the person in the simulation must follow and if you follow the rules, then the simulation gets much much easier and
Every simulation you have a way to contact
You have a way to contact someone who is not in the simulation for advice and guidance
And when you look at the ancient traditions, they all say we have a start in the beginning we have an end
This world isn't going to last we're here temporarily
It's called the Maya in the Hindu traditions that there are rules that we're learning
while we're here, and that when we get into trouble we can contact a presence outside of our
Known reality who has a perspective that we don't have with God through Pro
It could be it could be our higher self. It could be an angelic
presence it could be a
Relative who has passed it. Could if you believe in channeling a lot of people
You know when they're channeling you're channeling a presence from another world. It should be God
So when you look at the parallels, they're very very striking starting to convince me a little bit
well
so but then the simulation so here's the question if
We are in a simulation
Why what would be the purpose and then one of the answers of that is who who benefits?
Who benefits from a simulation and the answer is the people that are in the simulation?
So we are the ones benefitting we have to assume that we're learning something here
That we are going to need when we get to wherever we're going and wherever that is
If you believe that that this world is the Maya or is temporary and so when we look at that
what are the themes the general themes of everything that we're learning in our in our
in our spiritual traditions in the religious principles
Where's medical science leading us and it all comes back to our ability?
to self-regulate our biology the power of love the power of the human heart to influence the body the power of the human heart to
Influence the world beyond the body. So regardless I think the simulation theory
We're now in the 21st century and we're looking for new a new vocabulary in the new language
that has now caught up with the technology and where we are to help us make sense of
our existence and whether you believe that or not
Whether you're talking about the old ideas of the new ideas, they all bring us to the same place. What are we learning? And
What are the themes and the themes that we see playing out in the world of love and hate war and peace?
Our ability to transcend the great challenges of our lives the fact that we're not victims
We are given the ability to self-regulate our biology consciously in the way Brian and no other form of life
No other form of life can consciously sit down in the moment in time and say in this moment. I choose
I choose to awaken the longevity enzymes in my cells. I choose to enhance my immune response
I choose to access deep states of intuition
I choose to become more resilient to the change in my life other forms of life may do it instinctually
When the environment triggers it we're the only form of life that can consciously
Consciously say in this moment. I choose to
self-regulate to do this because I choose not because my external environment is driving me to do this and this is a very very
powerful form of
mastery in and that mastery is what we find in our most ancient and
Cherished spiritual traditions when I study with the Yogi's with the monks and the nuns and the abbot's and the Mystics and the shamans
No curanderos and the healers
All over the world and as different as they are from one another they access the same state
This is and we've we have been led to believe that these are extraordinary states of human experience
I believe in my colleagues. Dr. Joe Dispenza is a very good friend of mine and we've had this conversation over meals many times
Bruce lipton dear friend the three of us work and present together
And we triad we are yeah, we all believed we each believed and together. We all believed that
These are potentials that have simply been forgotten or maybe never realized
In the broad general public, but that that's our birthright
These are our potentials and rather than being extraordinary states of consciousness
they are ordinary states that we've been conditioned out of through culture through religion through science through
powerful agendas over over time throughout history because when we embrace these technologies
We are awesomely powerful beings in the way now. There is another
Philosophy and this is where it all comes home
There is a philosophy now in the scientific community that consciousness
informs itself
Through its creations
So if you think about that what we see as movies for entertainment art?
sculpture music
books
All the things that the we create and we think we're doing to entertain ourselves from this perspective
Consciousness is
Asking us in the field
to create these things to remind us of our deepest potentials and if you think about that you look at look at the
Blockbuster movies that surprised even even the you know the movie makers
That have had the greatest impact and as different as they are from one another their common themes
so for example
The matrix obviously comes to mind that was about a world that we cannot see
That influences us tremendously avatar came along after that inception, right?
So we think were the creators of these things but these things are actually reflecting back to us who we really are. We they are
Mirroring back to us what we are asking of ourselves. We're asking ourselves to remember ourselves
Yeah to remember who we are in our potential in one of the ways that we're doing it rather than going to a monastery
Leaving your family and your life behind and living on the Mount and you know for the rest of your life
Which you can do and it can be fun
We're asking
consciousness
through our
expressions of creation
Not just for fun or entertainment but to tell us
What it is that we have forgotten about ourselves
And and so, you know, where did the ideas know I sit down to write the matrix
Where does that idea even get from know I had this?
Cod this conscious thought because if I look over the last seven years of what we've done at London real
We put out all these great ideas and you know
We just released a movie called iron mind and when I look at it and I look at everything. We've created Greg
I actually see who I really am and yet when I'm in my normal state of madness at London real son
Oftentimes, I don't know who I am
but when I look at what I've created and the things that other people that created that resonate with me and it could be a
Piece of music that makes no sense why it would resonate with me, but it reminds me of what I am
It's a it's fascinatingly true. It's the prime directive of London real right?
It's it's the overriding for I mean, you've got all kinds of things that are happening
If you look at them close up they may not make a lot of sense
but when you step back and you look at the big picture within context
They're all supporting that prime directive of London real to inform the public to share a story
Yeah
And one of my great guests on here named Dorian Yates and again a lot of my most favorite guests and top guests
Which you're becoming one of them as well?
They all tell me that very similar universal themes at the end people from all aspects of life. This man's a six-time. Mr
Olympia X bodybuilder and at the end he comes to it and says Brian, you know
We are he says I think we're all one
I think a lot of these like big themes and overarching themes and one time I said to him I said Dorian do you think?
You know what? We're doing this and I talked about my ayahuasca
experiences and I have people like you on and Dispenza and Greg and do you think maybe that this is a London real as a
Vehicle being used by some other higher consciousness and he said of course it is Brian. What do you think we're doing?
I believe it is and it's rare and this is why I'm so excited to come back it is it is rare to
Find a vehicle
a conduit
where we can share ideas as freely and as openly
Unscripted because you and I we don't script this when we have this conversation
Other programs they do a nice job, but it's all very buttoned up
and when you when you stray off topic that stuff ends up on the cutting room floor as the cliche goes and
And it's also there are
Networks I've had experience with network television where they've asked me to come in and they say we want something new and different
So they've I've gone to the corporate headquarters
And I've said okay this is this is what the work is all about
and they said
we want something new and different but this is too new and different because we want something that's
Going to stay in the mold of what we already know is successful. Okay, so they're afraid to
Try these new and different things and and we're we're you know, we're covering a lot of ground here
But this this is where and I think all of this is important. It's more than the philosophical
Conversation Brian because you know some people you know, they say what difference does it make you know?
Where we come from? What difference does it make?
You know
how we function in the world and
And I understand the sentiment but it makes a lot of difference because now we're going to get real
London real
We're living in the world that's changing in ways that we've never seen that we're not
conditioned to accept and the world is changing faster than we have been conditioned to accept in a single generation and
We are trying to solve the problems of the world
Through a thinking based on false assumptions of obsolete science such as Darwin's ideas that nature's based upon
competition in
Conflict. So for a hundred and fifty years because that was believed to be
The theme of nature it made sense to try to incorporate that theme in our personal lives
in relationships
Consciously and subconsciously. I'm not seeing everyone does this consciously but between Nations
in communities and in society
Conflict has been a prime directive and when something doesn't work you use conflict, and we now know it's not working
It's breaking down because it's not sustainable
Sustainable, and it's not sustainable because it's based on a false assumption
We now know the best science of the modern world tells us that nature nature's primary rule is cooperation
When we see so much competition that tells us how far we've strayed we talked about this in the last interview
So so we're not denying. I'm not denying that competition is happening in conflict that it tells us how far we've missed the mark
From the harmony of working with nature and then and that's one example
So we're seeing the rise of hate in ways that we've never seen at least not for a very long time
We're seeing the rise of hate based upon religion color of our skin
sexual orientation
hate crimes and
polarization men against women Christian against Muslim
And it's not just in the Western countries
You're seeing this all over the world and it stems as as
Different as these things are from one other their only possible Brian because of the way we've been taught to think it's not natural
For humans young babies studies have been done. Babies. Do not hate they don't even distinguish color
Between their race and other races white babies black babies brown babies
Asian Native American they'd know the difference until their parents. Tell them
That difference is there so these are learned
Characteristics based upon these false assumptions and we've seen this before
The eugenics movement late 18-hundreds early 1900s was based on the false assumptions and Darwin's ideas of science
they referred to Darwin's ideas directly and many of those ideas now are being revisited this it's a very dangerous way of thinking so
What we're talking about right now, it's more than a philosophical conversation
this goes right to the core of our survival of our society to
The survival of our communities our young children and now I think about this often. What would it be? Like, what would it be like
to raise an entire generation of young people
Based upon what we now know to be true in science
Rather than these false assumptions the idea that the cooperation is a fundamental rule
How would those children learn to play and work together differently that?
That they are part of the world rather than separate from the world
they're part of their bodies and their bodies are a conscious entity to be trusted and respected rather than
something to be abused and what would that generation be like and I don't think we're gonna have to wait long because I think
the ideas that we're talking about, it's I
Was working in the in the defense industry. When at the end of the Cold War when the Berlin Wall fell
So many people thought wow that happened fast happened overnight. It didn't happen overnight
under the surface in consciousness
The changes were happening, but they weren't visible
Unless you knew where to look and all of a sudden it was like a logarithmic it wasn't linear
It was logarithmic all of a sudden that changes
Percolated up and that wall came down
The same thing is happening
Now the changes that you and I are talking about the changes in the way that people think in the acceptance
holistic ways of living healing the body
A nourishing nourishing body and I think we're going to see this
this sea change
Happened and people are going to say wow that happened so fast
But we've been laying the foundation
thirty years people are hungry for the eyes these ideas and I see it because I see our
content that we put out but pretty much can be viewed at will by most people in the world bar in China and
You know
It's the ideas of you and Bruce Lipton Dispenza that are really getting a lot of resonance and I think people are looking past
this blatant scientific explanation for everything that they've been taught and I think actually
technologies help that out to a certain extent because everything is now
Google-able and somewhat explainable and I think something deep inside of us as humans say there's much more going on here than that
Well, I think that's what's happened. I believe I believe as well Brian
I think you're right on but it goes even deeper than that because in addition to all the things we're talking about
There is another driver
That is at work here. There's another factor and we are at this pivotal crossroad
where
We are developing and evolving our technology so quickly
We have to make a choice as a society. How much of our power?
Will we give away to the machines how much of it sounds like a science fiction movie?
Where do those movies come from?
This is consciousness in those movies asking us to explore how much of ourselves do we want to give away?
And here's a perfect example Elon Musk
Elon Musk has developed a new company called
neuro-link and his philosophy is now and I'm not sliding him for this because this is the way
Society learns this is the way science learns by pushing. The boundaries an Elon Musk is a brilliant man. He's pushing those boundaries and
And I think he'll push them until he has pushback from society
Neuro-link is the first chip
Implanted into the human brain that directly links the human brain with a hard drive of a physical computer
Without a wire without a cable. So it's like Bluetooth technology. It's beyond Bluetooth, but that's you can think of it that way
So what he's saying is if you can't meet the machines and join them. He said let's let's
Interface, let's become one with these machines. So what do you think about that?
So they they have the chips that can be implanted into the brain and I mean think about what's happening. These are silicon tips
That have contact points that are interfacing with human neurons
My personal feeling is it's a mistake my personal feeling I I believe
It's a it's a dangerous path
And I also believe it's an unnecessary path because in the book human by design and in the programs that we offer
We have
The biology that allows us to do
already we have this what those chips are allowing us to do if we awaken that biology we have
OK the chips allow the matrix is the perfect example of this in the movie The Matrix. I don't want to spoil it
I don't want to spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it. But then in the movie The Matrix the first one
The people who were awakening into the the new reality when they needed to learn something quickly
They had a port at the base of their skull and they would physically plug a cable
Into a computer a harddrive and they could download and learn programs very quickly
So very Keanu Reeves was learning kung fu there's a very famous line. I love this line
He he plugs in he close his eyes and then he looks and he says I know kung foo
Yeah, okay, and and what he did with that machine we have the ability to do right now through what are called mirror neurons
Interestingly mirror neurons are a specialized class of neurons in the human brain
that don't know the difference between
Watching an experience and having the experience
So when when we and we already know this, for example, this is why you can lie on your couch on a Sunday afternoon
Watching a soccer game or a golf tournament or whatever you're lying down
But you're watching this and your heart's racing your muscles are tensed
You might be perspiring you might be you know, breathing heavy and but you're just lying there
But if you think about that, it makes no sense
You're mirror neurons think you're the one on the field
That we watch it is it's and these are very powerful neurons and they're also powerful in addiction
This is this is why pornography for example is so powerful. It's so addicting because
when
someone witnesses those images with the mirror neurons it triggers the saying the
oxytocin and the same dopamine the same very addictive chemistry because the brain doesn't know the difference between watching and
Having the experience
So this is these are the bad things that we hear
The good things that we don't often hear is because the brain doesn't know the difference when we learn to access these mirror neurons
In a very specific way we have super learning Brian we can learn so I I do this personally
I mean we can learn very very quickly
We can learn music you can learn to perform the way another musicians performing learn a foreign language very quickly
You can retain not only retain but recall information
Very super learning super memory super retention super recall from the mirror neurons
And here's the kicker those mirror neurons in the in the human brain are in the sixth layer of the neocortex
That is made possible through a mysterious
DNA fusion that happened two hundred thousand years ago when we showed up who or whatever
Is responsible for our existence. Whatever is the source of the intervention that appears to have happened
Made that those neurons possible and it gives us the ability
If we choose to access this potential to to learn
and experience
Very very quickly. We don't need to be physically connected to a computer
But this is an example of where if we don't know that and we go down this road. I mean it won't stop there
We end up giving our power away. I to to a device and you've heard the old
the old axiom if use it or lose it and and we run I think the risk of
Becoming a species where we begin to lose this tremendous sure beautiful potential and we're are losing parts of that already because we're no longer
Kind of learning the same way and pushing our brains to learn languages. It's all about
Exactly asking ask the young people today to solve a mathematical problem the blood off the use of a phone or a calculator
yeah, you know I come from a generation and this is all happened in one generation when I was in school back in the
1950s 60s early 70s
Engineers were putting the first man on the moon using a slide rule. Yeah
Now some of our viewers don't even know. What a slide rule is it is it is the precursor
To the it has no electricity
it is a gadget that looks like a ruler that had a slide that you could use to to move and correlate certain numbers and
This is the way engineering happened World War two the atomic bomb
this is how we solve our problems and the young people now if they don't have
They don't have either a calculator which is almost obsolete a physical calculator
They're on the phones now, or they don't have a phone. They cannot solve the problems. Yeah
Well, we are now cyborgs whether we want to admit it or not
Most people are anxious that they don't have the phone they refer to it all the time
It's part of their consciousness and so as I've heard you long talk about he said the problem now
Or maybe not the problem
Maybe the good part according to you is bandwidth because we have our thumbs to get the information from our brain into this
This network this internet platform
And so Elon is proposing that we jack up that bandwidth
You know and get all of the download and interaction between us and this
Super computing super interconnected network around the world and then take ourselves to that next level
And so I think Elon is a proponent or he's just saying it's going to happen. So let's make it happen
Yeah, he's he's just saying you let's go right flow
This is where it's going. Right and I see what you're saying. Because if we do that, there's not many ways of going back
We're already doing what we already are doing that to a certain extent Hartley. Well, we are and I have to be for transparency
I'll just say that I probably am what you would call a purist
There's a part of me that
so
Respects
the
intricacy
Of the human the human being our our existence we are so mysterious. We are so complex and
Every time scientists think they've got it nailed. It's all buttoned up and they think they're they understand everything
There's an understand they understand that they don't know what what's really happening human brain states a perfect example
We can talk about that in just a moment
So I think until we fully understand who on our potential it's a mistake right to
Closing off that door we might not ever go back there and we're giving you the way it's a mistake to to lose that 50
Years from now there'll be the science fiction movie of the people that stayed away from the tech and the people that win it
Yeah, I think it is happening right now
That's exactly what what you're seeing and you know, if some people go to extremes, I think I think the machines
Can be useful as tools my caution is not to embrace them as a crutch where we have to have them if a machine
Can tell me?
When I'm creating the conditions in my body to access this potential then that machine is very useful
Once I understand that I can toss the machine the way I don't need the gadget
Because now I know who I am if if the machine if I feel like I need the machine
To take me to this place every time so I have a bad day or I'm a little stressed
I said I got to hook up to my machine
you
know my
PC and run this app to tell me when I'm in the right brain state or whatever the right heart state or whatever it is
And I think that's where we run the risk and we have to be conscious we have to be conscience cautious
Conscience conscious and cautious as we do this and I I'm tripping on a little bit because I wanted to go back
I'm not sliding Elon Musk. He is a
Different generation than we are. He's an entrepreneur. He's done amazing things
He sees potential and he says let's explore this potential and so he probably is
Accelerating the evolution wherever that evolution is going to go
We have to make a choice now where we didn't have to make it five years ago
Now we have to choose are we going to follow this path now? I have to tell you Brian
audiences all over the world when I share this story and I've got a presentation that goes with it and I before I even
Share my opinion. I can see people in the audience and when they see the picture of the chip I say here's the chip
Here's what it does and people are out there. They're shaking their heads and
Then when I say in my opinion, this is a dangerous thing to do. It's a slippery slope
I think we may not want to go hear people stand up and applaud
people at least in the ilk
that we are communicating with believe that there is a
pushing a
Boundary and two boundary. They don't want to cross
