[Suspenseful music]
[Relieved chuckle]
[Kahn] I do love Spielberg, even though
he's considered a filmmaker
of light family fare.
The stuff that I like of his
was the stuff that was really honest.
For instance, if you watch
Raiders of the Lost Ark,
you could never make that movie today,
because that was considered PG back then,
but look at it.
[Screaming]
It's got people's brains being shot out.
Blood packs are going off.
People are getting run over by cars
and you see their arms and legs flying up.
That was honest adventure
filmmaking with repercussions.
And today, you can't do that.
Now, if someone gets shot,
you can't show blood
or else it goes into an R rating.
So that fine line of action fare
and adventure and genre filmmaking
that had an edge to it,
but wasn't overtly edgy
because it was just being
honest to the trope —
it just doesn't exist anymore,
which I think is really sad.
So on one level, I just like honesty.
If you're going to make something,
just be honest with what
you're trying to say.
Don't hide that blood pack.
Not that I love blood, but I'm just saying:
just be real about what you're
trying to portray there.
If you're showing someone dying,
show that person dying!
And show it in the way
that is the most
emotionally effective way.
And the second thing is irony.
Creativity is ultimately ironic,
only in that it is taking an expectation
and reverting it.
Maybe it hits the expectation you want
but doesn't get there in the
way that you think it would.
[Gunshot]
And that was always the most
surprising thing about art.
If you give them exactly what they want
in the way that they want,
you have gotten nothing out of it.
So when I say I like dark comedy or irony,
what I'm really saying is that
I want you to revert my expectations.
And I want you to do it in an honest way.
And that's what I want.
"Snakes.
Why'd it have to be snakes?"
[Storming, wind blowing]
