it's sis and on the phone it is always a
pleasure to welcome
to the program
the blogger did be from the uh...
i call it a new gridlock because it's
uh... it's uh... it's uh... and almost
feeds directly into my brain headline
it's like an axe extra are assessed the
death carson talking about hullabaloo
that did bs blood dot blots but that
time
welcome back today
thanks for having me camp it's
interesting you know how rhino uh...
just how someone with so much money
like an on the
can just not even relax that she's
working
well signaling when had he and i can
you know one percent ur they regain
their cases zero point one percent of
them in a way up there
they action people we've been middle
class
away with this comes from i guess if the
idea that
somehow they'll think their ward and
june cleaver and
you know they're living in a fiber some
pattern there make mayor there mentioned
not even met mansion
are a good way of regarding their
to will i mean
you're the product on the past week we
heard
a bunch of whining from um...
you know what your well-treated
investment tax
who are crying that they're not getting
their promises because
in update dad lament wired
unless you have money you just don't
know how hard this said swings solid
realized its you know as an experiment
maybe they should guests hide
lend us that money tha interest-free
uh... and maybe just gifted to us just
for delic six weeks so we can also for
clearly i think happy to run medicare
many had just let me have that money and
i will i will report back i don't know
how it will look at uh... and look at it
look at uh... mitts jeans disco these
are denim like everybody else is there
not gold laces differences
who have we don't look
uh... but wait we're not talking about
just ahead chest it's just amazing to me
because i think like you know it's
exponentially that much more deluded
because
you know they don't even have the
capacity to realize how offensive what
they're saying is like deserve it
their they their number one goal the
only thing they wake up in the morning
now and probably have done for the past
five or six years maybe longer is just
how can we project that we
you see all the pain of americans
and they can't even do that it's
stunning uh...
you know maybe they're just dot on stag
s
i think i can't speak stop intensity
people can cam allotted time
of great
for for having no
kore for being an npc
but yeah i think you can him he can't
help but no matter what no matter how
thirty it is
he can't adopt himself from speaking the
truth
which is that you know he's a rich
out he and his wife apparently i didn't
notice about her until their but you
know apparently at both of them are just
completely out of touch wealthy people
who are living under some illusion pet
that that the weight everybody else
slept
and if you have heard everything about
in the press i'm concerned and i i don't
need to know anymore various computer
literate referenced this a couple time
on the program and uh... and i wanna
move on to this other topic but before
we do sky just remember
any resonated for me so much because it
is really was a
sort of uh... adjust i had to piss me
about politics back one
when dukakis couldn't be dad george
herbert walker bush if it i mean day
here's mike dukakis a guy who literally
shoveled a snow office walkout is that
such a big deal but you know here's a
guy who understood what it was to just
sort of live a fairly uh...
typical life in terms of uh...
dizzy can ahmet does situation and high
just remember
vibrato george herbert walker is uh...
bush's uh... sister
to explain how he was in bridge got
and uh... the quote was something to
effective like we had such a normal
upbringing if we left our tennis rackets
out in the rain we've got cars flare-up
o
walked off their corporate italy
tennis rackets there have been punished
just like everybody else
and up
this guy's got that same dizzy
easy i mean i guess that's one of the
beautiful things about being rich is
that you
never ever get reminded that you're rich
if you hang out with enough other rich
people well compared to many of his
frank right he probably a and compared
to a good donors spiritually per pack
hit poorer
millionaire
you know maintained suffering yes i'll
you know there's only like at seven zero
zero p_m_ a failure i had a great help
epatra hyper let's let's
dover because this has been
uh... you know
i think well yeah you're right in this
piece that you you'd get about the
sixteen percent is which is uh...
uh... based on a piece and and and the
daily beast
uh... debt
for whatever reason and we we can
imagine what those reasons are but
despite the fact that
women have the chief
uh... not parity but have achieved great
gains in uh... entry into the workforce
uh... they still get paid uh... less of
money for the same job
uh... i think somewhere around seventy
five to eighty percent plus uh...
of what a comparable job would be but
when there are incredibly under arrest
of underrepresented
in leadership positions
and
is indicative of sort of a plaque
telling and i think what we're
experiencing this country have backlash
of dance
women's economic uh... emancipation
well i mean i i p kind of wondering
about this for a while because
you know i grew up
et you know with
that women's movement and basically
you know with the promised land they
stood you know the the argument always
was fit well it's gonna take time for
women to recheck you know bumper level
of parity
with men because they don't have the
education experience you know everything
in the workplace
they're gonna have to get that failed my
generation was going to grow into that
and probably the one coming up behind me
with than you could be there for them
because
ardently he got a college you get the
education and work your whole life you
know
theoretically should be able to
um... daily experience you have to carry
any fairies fields
and it's not happening i mean i'm i'm
alton l and at it's not happening and
we're sixteen percent emo way behind
other western democracies in america
uh... are exceptional administering
in this particular way
and you know they're eight therefrom
really no reason for it i mean women are
educated they are emancipated
uh... they shd air you know
free and in most ways to pursue their
dreams many of them are and they're just
not getting their and that there are
many reasons for it
uh... some of it
you know you can see articulated by such
wonderful uh... you know highly-paid
leader thinks which limbaugh
and you can see it in other more subtle
ways
uh...
in which
we continue to be unable to develop
institutions
and structure that allow for
both family and work
to be venal reasonably dealt with
um... through our deal very insistent
that
workplaces laws in government
uh... you dick
so you know we're fact and anna and i a
he have continued to be
signs that were actually dividing back
which is very disturbing to me it's one
thing the stall out for a while
it's another to actually backfired which
appear with the reproductive writer
falconry productive right
it that backfired and that kind of
epicenter of the whole thing without
that
women literally cannot be
free vehicle
uh... you know to pursue their lives
says is you know full human beings they
just they just can't they have to be
able to control the reproduction
and we all thought that was pretty well
frontal
and then it was great you know planted
come along and solve this problem
allowed women to be women
but also allowed them to be
foley involved in
that you know in every affect of life
outside the home and now we're seeing i
don't know what i
c_e_o_ is that really severe attack and
twenty can there be more than a thousand
laws
uh... put forth in the debate
and coming in congress as well alike to
restrict women's reproductive rights and
we seem to be attack from planned
parenthood and you know everything that
we thing happened
in the last few weeks with this new
um...
you know strategy that they have about
really do you know religious freedom
or religious liberty they're calling it
uh... so you know they're they're began
happening if not just a figment of you
know
paranoid feminist cement he shouldn't
have happening before our eyes
and i think it something that that you
know maybe women are beginning to wake
up to
i don't think i think it for awhile i
mean i think other people have been
observing that kind some of the strange
phenomenon
and um... now it's kinda coming before
thanks to rush limbaugh
bavaria feather foolish people like
uh... you know coming for the cure him
and others to record succumbing to
pressure at the very least we seem to be
waging a battle you know whether we win
i don't know about that
mac takes at least issued joins you know
sir
in some respects and even
uh... the the wonderful thing to the
extent that one can can characterize it
this way
about uh...
uh... limbaugh is that he
basically ripped that the new year
off love of of this attack upon on women
in in other words
you know i think that there's a tendency
when you see things like uh... person
who'd amendments when you see things
like in virginia the uh... transactional
you know a medical
uh... rate the centrally um... you know
it in the event that that women want
exercise a right that the supreme court
has deemed it to be constitutional
um...
these things i think the first tendency
is to sort of say like what this is
this is sort of like the the the
white-knuckle grip of religious for
but i think you know when when limbaugh
comes out there
and stars talking about this has nothing
to do with the uh... you know stars
characterizing women who
move who take contraception
uh... as slots
uh... i think it is
it we leave then exposes that this is
mind sort of just
sort of like a a a
either i think that cory robin talks
about this this is any re reaction
too i think sort of the financial
emancipation of women
mr mc says a man who uses tenancy there
is a little with the we're seeing these
things is strictly because of religious
values but i don't think that there is
an economist
in religious values in this country that
are trying to subjugate women actually
think on some level what we're seeing is
a particularly in a time of the economic
ah... stress that
women are taking their share of the
blame
for entering the workforce
well certainly i mean i don't i don't
think there's any doubt about that i
mean other people just a religious
backlash and i don't think you know it's
rush limbaugh web religious unsavory
sort of a strike me that well and i'll
take it then and i don't think that that
that whole
uh... you know side that whole faction
that sort of rush limbaugh you know
methodically faction of having come from
religion
that comes from a center of loss of
control and and that's
exactly what corey robbins talking about
was that this reaction to yet he put it
that family
the factory in the field
which is the pride that realms of power
that
you know if is are the most important to
you conservative
um...
or reactionary through the fee as we
call them that this is width replicate
that be come back here it is when they
eat what you know when they get winning
react
and and i think that did
you know and put that back now
anatomy have to look at it
decimating the great span of history
you know when interest
you know women's rights of women
continue to work for it
birth control
is isn't one of the most
sociological pick a significant defense
in human history it's big it's new jeep
theater
it's unbelievable i mean we thought it
had been in this living in this
gary
you know in this amazing world where
where all they don't offer kind of
falling away and we took it for granted
but when you look
added from a
from afar you know from thirty thousand
feet into the political people
nippy dip into the major thing and it's
have great huge challenge to
day you know that they're very bay
perfect fundamental structure uh...
you know our human organization and and
and i think that if this is it's harder
than we anticipated i think it's not
that he veto what you're seeing fifth
backlash which has been building for a
long time
especially as you point out at a time
when there is
real challenge going on economically any
people are
dealing
a whole lot of
you know when his plane to go around
people tend to be a little bit lactose
intolerant you know
and though you know that they're going
to be paid uh... the jobs that men held
for medium probably many of rush
limbaugh's
followers you know good good well-paying
plu collar jobs
those are going away
and the jobs that are remaining
our jobs that women are you very much in
competition for much less if these guys
having to work for women are having
their own
wives you know working in
and be a feeling all that pressure and
yet it's not that i'm and unsympathetic
to it but it is exactly you know
just because you're born at the answer
at the white male
now i'm tired after that you know should
not always be a ticket to uh... you know
you were uh... superior position in
society and yet i think a lot of the
fact that quite shocked by the fact that
that's not
the case anymore and
and i think you know i think that the i
look around the world and fifty places
like iraq for instance where
prior to the invasion even under that
the monstrous
you know totalitarian state of saddam
women were
you know operating as yuma far more
antique will finance confided in new
york today
means that he did note them and that
uh... this during the daily beasts
that uh... our nation
ranked seventy first
in the water hold in female legislative
representation behind bangladesh
sudan in the united arab emirates
yep mistreated that docking acting every
unbelievably shocking and
and you know i mean here we are a number
of watching the rush limbaugh you know
go unaffected tirade
do you think depriving because i
following pretty closely
and he would be on the fact that i mean
and it's really a deviant than he did
you think you know i think this is
and actually not that shocking usually
talking about feminazis in german
shepherds and stuff services
it is right on par with what he normally
says it happened in the middle of a
firestorm
and uh... a candidate to empty of women
with
already mobilized around a whole bunch
of things that just happened you know
plan b
and that the common for the care thing
planned parenthood
recount orm
uh... comment about birth control
all that happened then rush welcome came
in with his disgusting commenting people
noticed in have mobilized again to
combat
um...
you know this is uh... huh
unity did this these particular
uh...
athlete that of uh...
uh...
you know and keep them in at the mardi
gras outright progeny
it is actually nothing new and he he's
been out there doing it for a long time
keeping these people on a hard and
and and every thought you know look
we've got seventeen very frequently
actually backlit we had seventeen
percent representation until twenty ten
we now have left and we did
and and and when you feel what happened
during you know i mean women in politics
with a tough it that they get
enough that said about them
is young men take a high ally head to
tail i mean i'm not suggesting that
electric picnic at taft game
but uh... it a bit different
magazine way
this i mean you know well part of it is
that i think uh...
uh... they were already women
women activist groups other activist
groups who
were uh... sensitized to these issues
because this has been in the news but i
really think that the story ke about
limbaugh is that there's been this type
of pushback amin uh... like you say a
and and i do think that
uh... you know there is a difference
and not necessarily in uh...
uh... how sort of uh... grotesque it is
but in terms of the target between
feminazis
and call
a woman who's who's shoe
losing two engage first talking about
contraception
uh... has a slight i mean i think like
dearest i think it's easy
you know what under sort of like
uh... you know uh... a matching
you know my father is a fairly
enlightened i don't have that in life
and um... you know i i think that like
aiken m
did
uh... people of my father's age respond
i guess that might not see
well i think like the idea of liquid
saket uh...
i have a i've always told my daughter's
not to you know to sort of make sure
you're protected and now she's a slot
because of that win a second do you know
there's no
with there is no how what needle she's
postgrad here an addict is like a sort
of like he
the he on you unleashed something i
think that
uh... you know to be project has much to
do about nothing but the very fact that
you now have fourteen or fifteen or more
advertisers dropping out of uh... of
supporting a limbaugh the fact that you
have lost a couple of stations i think
it's sort of
runs completely contrary to that notion
you know obviously is resonating with
people in a way that something as a
resonated in the past
and you know the idea that this is just
you know duran's to the extent that
there is a democratic uh... or a left
this uh... media complex machine that
exposes limbaugh
they've done nothing different this time
than they did any other time is is that
this one here
and so i think that that speaks to
something of a eight heightened
awareness by women by people who believe
that women are i've
people they you know accomplished in our
society at that that must exist
well i think it's also him that i agree
with you if there is you know this isn't
specific person for one thing it's not
an abstract sort of
you know caricature that he ought to
lead us with
with this uh... that that helped i mean
this is this woman
you know you've got to keep
charity highly unusual even average but
you know american woman speaking about
and average
uh... issued that all women
you know i mean i from a ninety nine
percent of women big because i think
about it mean i think this is nothing
beyond the pale is nothing about her
that thirteen specifically
threatening or in any way
all right so i could have taken
p that be part of it n_f_o_ now that it
birth control i mean delivered to the
following if you follow the religious
right you know that a lot of their
of their uh... strategy has been leading
toward that for a long time nineteen
eighty-eight debate sort of
uh... fetish i put fetus event the way
of kinda getting into their but it was a
really always going back
it's big it's beyond roe versus wade
it's to griswold versus connecticut and
you know we're kantor instead this
you know outright keep that this if you
know sex because to be procreate at the
end but by
and i think birth control has been bad
for women and he to speak for
a lot of people of the religious right
anything that they haven't been open
about this but do you know p p font then
you can see that this is truly what they
believe and it had to do with the idea
that
that women should beating traditional
role period
i don't think people
news that and i don't think
that most people understood that this
was where detective you know
accommodation with the religious
on abortion with
heading
you know the answer you give a million
serial taken while people
they do take a while and i think i would
have been here we are
moving on elope it to the next step in
started with the health care
um... bill
and you could kind of heat air force's
sort of gathering there
so i think that there's been a bit
wake-up call
for for women in general have been kind
of
you know going alone on a campaign well
you know people are funny discretion
about abortion that's
you know nobody's comfortable with it
it's an unpleasant subject in
it's not something that you know we
believe in it but i can see why other
people have this
has a different view
birth control letting the people are
going well heathrow wait a minute
what is wrong with that
what's wrong with that tell me what's
wrong with it and once you start hearing
it
even here rush limbaugh's saying
uh... what do you know all women who use
birth control it
or you hear the religious right
you shouldn't be outside the home you
should be at home
procreate and asks else meeting about
limo is that
slump that divide because i like you say
rumba has no religious bone a few days i
mean what he is attacking ios
the fact that women are empowered
by by uh... birth control by oral
contraception in particular
they are specifically empowered by in
the same way in you know when we look at
the disparity as to why there is less
uh... leadership roles for women in this
country verses uh... other western
nations you know i don't think i don't
think that level of consciousness in
this country is such that people
perceive something like day care
uh... as in power
earning the women uh... in the the
workplace
i'd just don't think that people
conceive of it that way i don't think
that people conceive have have been able
to make that connection that oral
contraception
uh... is also about in power
earning women in the workplace in terms
of of actually giving them full status
in any country which up until you know
um...
you know had never minded didn't offer
them to vote but also use money and
atlanta holding as a means in which to
to disqualify people from participating
in the political process and i think you
know when a guy like limbaugh comes out
and does this healing
uh... i hate to use the word naked in
the same sentences luau but he lied lazy
bear and f
uh... i think it's fascinating and i'm
wondering if
i wanna get i wonder if that to a
certain extent we're seeing more of this
backlash against women then we were
earl it's a
five years ago or is six years ago
uh...
as a full of shit of having
of
race
slightly encumbered as a political tool
mind having a black president
i think that's part of it i really do i
mean i think that that that
addict you know i think that you can't
people have been fixed up
or anything
you know in policing our supply fifty
about open rate isn't too fun extending
a catholic this and we all know that
there's a whole you know
underbelly of racism out there that the
pill you know still functions entha
as a big part certainly on on the right
but but we have been pretty sick for a
full at keeping that kind of public
you know opin you know degrading sort of
rhetoric
uh... at bay at least summit content
i have today that that you know i
continue to be shocked
by how
it casually
people
uh... drop that kind of miss largeness
stick
park and i've been surprised when women
are offended that i mean if you know if
you go back to the two thousand a
campaign and i was talking about the
from up on the other day
and not just about hillary clinton i
mean this is true staff people fed about
a little bit edward people fed about
their pale and andy
you know there were there were plenty of
women michelle obama and look at the
things but there's paying about her
i mean it's absolutely horrifying n_m_e_
metropole
yet these are these are split
nitpick gendered install right that part
completely except mojo
in in many circles and not just a few
out by the way in in conservative circle
left-handed liberal for close to you
know and
you know that the noel huge now
completely away allowed to people
to do this now you know i think that it
has been
at and massive social change in atlantic
prophet of cultural
you know national hope you know this is
a global thing and it's not just uh...
america and we can to be less
uh... willing to confront this ten are
european brother and for instance many
of whom certainly in the scandinavian
countries have
address pins in them much more systemic
way
uh... but
you don't nonetheless it's happening the
some degree a low-fat all over the world
and it's in it it's a big deal
but i don't think i think we've ignored
the fact that the big deal and i think
we've you know reaching out for the
critical mass where we have to start
talking about this a little bit
it's a tough is darydary
toxic
and it it continues its it's why we're
stuck at sixteen percent
it is the reason that you know when you
have when the epic murphy became the
first female speaker of the house
freshmen ball when on the air and said
that
she was how great she paid clipper
caramail can't breastfeed in on the
floor of the house playing time
most powerful women in american politics
and that is how he
dealt with that and his audience loved
it they were talking about how do you
know all of her
you know it was it was copy with endless
second-best
uh... discussion tenets continued every
minute of the date that she can't defend
there keep looking at the peak is eight
isn't
to a large number of men at everything's
that they hate about women's so you know
i think that that that specific of you
know that specific attacks like
differences
you know i don't have as much problem
with people saying of one person is ugly
or another person because you know that
god knows i've made jokes about mitch
mcconnell's looks let's say
um... you know there's a certain amount
of uh...
of of that that takes place but the idea
that nancy pelosi
nothing about nancy pelosi
uh... that should make you say
breastfeed and toll clinton's i mean
that is never has now
nothing to do with nancy pelosi i mean i
you know i'm a professional sort of lake
to me
uh... you know insult ur and at that
as nothing to do with nancy polis
i hv million one writer you know
in a in a in a funny way to in
protecting sultanate reporting
answer and then you can culture politics
sunday night there'd be no crime yet not
been argue with
limbaugh's
i will write to you know put downs san
francisco liberals i'm not gonna be
happy about it that i think he felt i i
i don't see that is being uh... you know
it
any kind of the fact that info uh...
this kind of a decade that he did indeed
in on that you know the daily capping
happening very very explicit that day if
the within that converts nation about
breastfeeding and all that
and and i think he helped sometimes
heehee blurted out anything
and people don't
understand what he's dead
but he blurted out the truth if you
could benefit about the feminine
creation of the culture
and you know he was
no clearly upset
you know it's interesting that if people
the people who are listening here i mean
obviously probably most of your audience
benefits but your media matters
uh... has catalogued all the stuff
for the last and no
simply started
and it it's quite a collection if you
ever want to go back and ke i don't
think people realize just how probative
himself in half
constant and it's not just ten minutes
the entire right wing north machine
that doesn't this including by the way
action just attack meant for that
because there are plenty of right wing
women to do this and think
you know i call them that you know the
detective men and women who program
um... and you know that there's a whole
uh...
industry
built up a little their huge part of it
even among the uh... you know that uh...
they laura ingraham and and cultures and
all these extra really strong women i
mean these are not treating foxtel
hooked by any stretch
and meet that you know they adopt all
the stuff to without it without a
you know maybe even on second thought
from what i can tell think they're right
in their cn coulter has that
that women should have the right to the
now
data
i mean i think in her case there's a
decent argument but
um... well you know just the concept of
i mean they will be able to just stop
and think for a moment about the concept
of the famine isay shin of the culture i
mean dept theoretically
half the culture is is the effects of
the thankfully the footnotes the idea
like the masculine as a shame of our
culture one would never say that because
that's the default and you know i don't
come patriarchy right that speaks to i
think the idea that the fact that matter
is is that
when women
uh... become equal part you pull members
of our society when they're given the
full rights
there is going to be
uh... by met and i think that's what
we're seeing is that um... that this is
being exploited uh... and um...
beginning even to the extent that it and
i and i think it does to a certain
extent
cross uh... at least what we perceive it
on the surface level some ideological
levels amana keep
i mean i always think in a moment when
uh... chris matthews who you know
i think he perceives himself as a
liberal uh... you know i don't know who
it was i think maybe it was erin burnett
actually
uh... where he was just like a enough
comes circumferentially doesn't got
stuck
well why
scores so
still exists remember that moment just
like they are
keep possibly think he's on
why he's drunk i mean what's going on
there
um... budget that added to a certain
extent uh... rush limbaugh's done
this country a good services at the very
least and ripping off the veneer that
this is all
all about sort of you know respecting
people's religious values
this is my hour about um... you know
uh... people just holding tight onto
their place on the totem pole
absolutely untrue
and by the way i mean i think i mean
it's really important you know that
they've been said that
nuclear power here is has she follows
the religious right and
our rights for art reality checked and
various other great website that
that followed
women to shave and the religious right
and it's fascinating to die for anybody
who's interested in the topic as
everyone should be
um... and sheet ito followed this
this thing called the manhattan
declarations at which way is a group of
you know religious right and
uh... other conservative she got
together in two thousand nine and came
up with this religious liberty strategy
this isn't just something that kinda
came up out of the blue it's not a funky
hissing at all if it's a deliberate
strategy
and it's it's its
specifically defined
to create
air cargo
for conscience
which will in turn
you know in their view create
and opening to attack all of the enough
to cream court ruling various thing that
you know legalize it
women's rights reproductive rights
um...
and it you know their names even some
fear is that this is a you know a uh...
unlock that going to be double archer
strategy
contents clause as being a proper you
know apply to all kinds of things
outside of that braunwynn which cases
you know i don't feel like paying taxes
for this letter the other
as a way of breaking down
that you know the federal government's
ability to collect
tackling to pundits business
generally speaking
now after very long term strategy but
cuba should be aware that this is not
something that
you know that is just sort of came up
out of
you know uh... reaction
that spontaneous reaction this plant
and yuki the plant amendment became
froehlich any luck on the republican
voted for that right
that was great just a
and you know i've got friends
you know a party line vote basically i
mean ticket wins
there with a head wet three dissenters
on that
um... so you know this is something
that's going to be coming back they're
not denied it didn't
keep these people
are not wireless to brian in you know
and uh... troops tale
and give up on a strategy to end the
democrats up to
that the first line of
trouble
date they will continue to come back at
this point know that they believe that
they have a winning strategy the take
too long view and they will keep trying
so if you know it's important to
recognize a really really a big part of
of there
uh...
at their long-term strategy and
you know maybe
they're going to be defeated at the
polls may be a people keep waiting for
the uh... you know indeed theory
republican establishment to step in
and in the white than it does chip
the party come back to reality
maybe you can benefit but i can tell the
republican establishment at this point
is the religious right
rush limbaugh and his people
and you know and a bunch of very twelfth
the day who are willing to fund all that
crap people like
you know pickup brothers and sheldon
he'll simon you know all these
there it's a wealthy that they can
afford keep dabbled in politics with
millions and millions of dollars and
basically
change the course of history
you know indeed for their own year
discrete special interest
whatever those might be in the case for
both guys it's ideological and others
maybe it's just purely a you know a
business deal but
regardless any isn't good it's going to
be uh...
you know i i i don't think it's going
away for a ticket everybody should
yet you take your victory and then go on
and prepare yourself for the next fight
because
uh... it's not going to be over with
rush limbaugh being taken off the air
although god willing
you know please
if the if that happens we will be a
victory with happiness right blue light
on
body politic in cuba long over due to be
taken down
from europe
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