>> Adrienne: TONIGHT, DETAILS
EMERGE ABOUT A FATAL PLANE CRASH
IN ONTARIO.
>> Andrew: AMONG THE VICTIMS
TWO CANADIAN RESIDENTS AND A
FAMILY OF FIVE, INCLUDING THREE
KIDS.
>> THE AIRCRAFT WAS DESTROYED.
>> Andrew: WE'VE GOT THE
LATEST RIGHT NEAR THE SCENE.
>> Adrienne: A DEFIANT ANDREW
SCHEER SAYS THAT HE IS STAYING.
ROSIE AND "AT ISSUE" ARE HERE.
>> Andrew: A MANITOBA EMPLOYEE
RECRUITMENT DRIVE TAKES A DIG AT
QUÉBEC.
>> Adrienne: AND LIVING BESIDE
A RISING GREAT LAKE, PAYING A
DEVASTATING PRICE.
>> IF THIS BREACHES, WE ARE
GONE, WE'RE BANKRUPT.
>> Reporter: BANKRUPT?
>> YEP.
>> Adrienne: RECORD HIGH WATER
LEVELS, NOT NEARLY ENOUGH MONEY.
>>> THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
>> Andrew: WE HAVE NEW DETAILS
TONIGHT ABOUT A PLANE CRASH IN
ONTARIO
THAT LED TO THE DEATH OF ALL
SEVEN ON BOARD.
>> Adrienne: THE PILOT, HIS
WIFE, THEIR THREE CHILDREN, AND
TWO
FRIENDS, ALL CRAMMED INTO A
SIX-SEATER AIRPLANE.
THEY TOOK OFF FROM THIS AIRPORT
NEAR TORONTO AND THEN THE PLANE
CONTACTED AN AIRPORT ABOUT 200
KILOMETRES AWAY IN KINGSTON,
ONTARIO, MOMENTS BEFORE CRASHING
IN A WOODED AREA NEARBY.
THE PILOT BOUGHT THE PLANE
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND AS JUDY TRINH SHOWS US, IT
WAS HIS PRIDE AND JOY.
>> MY NAME IS OTABEK OBLOKULOV
AND THIS IS MY 1955...
>> Reporter: FLYING WAS OTABEK
OBLOKULOV'S PASSION AND TWO
YEARS AFTER EARNING HIS PILOT
CERTIFICATE, THIS HOUSTON
ENGINEER PURCHASED HIS OWN PLANE
TO SHARE HIS DREAM WITH HIS
FAMILY.
>> I HAVE TAKEN PIE WHOLE FAMILY
AND PUT
MY CAMPING GEAR RIGHT HERE IN
THE NOSE COMPARTMENT.
ALL OF THE STUFF THAT WE NEED IN
THE BACK.
>> Reporter: OBLOKULOV'S
FAMILY, ALONG WITH HIS TWO CLOSE
FRIENDS, A NEWLYWED COUPLE FROM
TORONTO, DIED WHEN HIS PIPER
CHEROKEE CRASHED.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, ALL SEVEN
PEOPLE WERE FATALLY INJURED.
>> Reporter: IT TOOK AN AIR
FORCE SEARCH-AND-RESCUE
HELICOPTER TO LOCATE THE
WRECKAGE.
ON THE GROUND, OBLOKULOV'S
KINGSTON FRIENDS WAITED FOR
ANSWERS.
OBLOKULOV AND HIS PASSENGERS
WERE TO SPEND THE NIGHT AT HIS
FRIEND'S HOME.
>> WE WERE WAITING WHEN THEY
WOULD LAND TO CALL US AND WE
WERE TRYING TO REACH THEM ON THE
NORMAL PHONE AND WE COULDN'T.
WE JUST ACCEPTED MAYBE THEY
DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION.
AND IN THE MORNING TIME I AM
LIKE I KNOW THE PLANE.
>> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS
WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
BOARD ARE NOW TRYING TO
DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE
CRASH.
>> IT WAS A VERY STEEP IMPACT,
SO SIGNIFICANTLY STEEP AND
SUBSTANTIVE.
THE AIRCRAFT WAS DESTROYED.
>> Reporter: T.S.B. SAY
THEY'LL LIKELY TO HAVE TO TAKE
THE BROKEN PIECES OF THE PLANE
BACK TO THE LABORATORY FOR
FURTHER ANALYSIS.
IT WILL ALSO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK
AT THE MAINTENANCE RECORD AS
WELL AS THE PILOT'S EXPERIENCE.
WEATHER MAY ALSO HAVE BEEN A
FACTOR.
THERE WAS RAIN AND STRONG WINDS.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE ACCIDENT
HAPPENED AND THE CONDITION WAS
NOT THE BEST CONDITION TO FLY
FOR A SMALL AIRPLANE.
PERSONALLY, I WOULD -- I WOULD
THINK ABOUT IT TWICE OR THREE
TIMES BEFORE I WILL TAKE MY
AIRPLANE TO FLY.
BECAUSE OF THAT CONDITION.
>> Reporter: OBLOKULOV'S
FRIENDS SAY THAT IT WAS HIS
FIRST TIME TO FLY IN CANADA.
>> I SAW OTHER PEOPLE HAVING
THEIR OWN PLANE AND FLYING OUT
OF HERE, AND IT KIND OF INSPIRED
ME.
>> Reporter: THE TWO FAMILIES
WERE EN ROUTE TO QUÉBEC CITY, A
JOURNEY AND LIVES CUT SHORT.
JUDY TRINH, CBC NEWS, KINGSTON.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, TO OTTAWA
NOW AND, ROSIE, THE SPOTLIGHT ON
ANDREW SCHEER IS CERTAINLY
GETTING AWFULLY BRIGHT.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, THE
CONSERVATIVES EXPANDED THEIR
SEAT COUNT OF COURSE IN THE LAST
ELECTION, ADRIENNE.
BUT INSTEAD OF SHOWING
THEIR LEADER APPRECIATION, MANY
WANT TO SHOW HIM THE DOOR.
ANDREW SCHEER IS A MAN UNDER
SIEGE, STARING DOWN AN
INSURGENCY THAT SEEMS TO BE
GAINING MOMENTUM.
HANNAH THIBEDEAU NOW ON SCHEER'S
FIGHT FOR HIS LEADERSHIP.
>> Andrew Scheer: I AM STAYING
ON TO FIGHT THE FIGHT THAT
CANADIANS ELECTED US TO DO.
>> Reporter: BUT MANY IN
ANDREW SCHEER'S OWN PARTY ARE
MOBILIZING TO GET HIM OUT NOW.
>> Andrew Scheer: NOW IS NOT
THE TIME FOR INTERNAL DIVISIONS
OR INTERNAL PARTY POLITICS.
THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE PART OF
THE CONSERVATIVE TRADITION IN
THIS COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: TODAY ANOTHER
VOICE CALLED FOR CHANGE.
STEPHEN HARPER'S FORMER CAMPAIGN
DIRECTOR IS WARNING SCHEER NOT
TO HANG ON.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE ANDREW RIGHT
NOW WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN --
WOULD REMAIN AS LEADER.
I DO NOT THINK THOUGH THAT IT'S
IN HIS BEST INTEREST OR THE BEST
INTEREST OF THE PARTY FOR THE
DISCUSSIONS TO CONTINUE THE WAY
THAT THEY'RE HAPPENING NOW.
>> Reporter: SOME SOURCES
BELIEVE THAT SCHEER CAN WIN
ENOUGH SUPPORT TO KEEP HIS JOB
AT THE LEADERSHIP REVIEW IN
APRIL.
BUT THEY SAY THAT WILL ONLY HURT
THE PARTY.
>> I FEEL THAT IF HE STAYS ON AS
LEADER, JUSTIN TRUDEAU WILL WIN
A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT NEXT TIME
AROUND.
>> Reporter: SO EFFORTS ARE
RAMPING UP FOR SCHEER'S
IMMEDIATE OUSTER, INCLUDING A
CAMPAIGN FOUNDED IN PART BY KORY
TENEYCKE WHO IS INVOLVED IN
MAXIME BERNIER'S FAILED
LEADERSHIP BID AGAINST SCHEER.
>> HIS ELECTION PERFORMANCE IS
VERY DISAPPOINTING, BUT HIS
POST-ELECTION PERFORMANCE HAS
BEEN ABYSMAL.
HE'S HAD NO DIRECTION, AND NO
PASSION, NO CONVICTION.
AND IT'S QUITE ALARMING TO SEE
HIM JUST FUMBLING FROM ONE DAY
TO THE NEXT WITHOUT ANY CLEAR
PLAN ON HOW THE CONSERVATIVES
ARE GOING
TO WIN GOVERNMENT NEXT TIME
AROUND.
>> Reporter: THE CONSERVATIVE
PARTY'S OFFICIAL ELECTION
POSTMORTEM ISN'T SHAPING UP
WELL FOR SCHEER EITHER.
SOURCES SAY THAT THE MESSAGE SO
FAR HAS BEEN CONSISTENT -- THAT
THE CAMPAIGN WAS A FAILURE AND
SCHEER'S PERFORMANCE IS PARTLY
TO BLAME.
HANNAH THIBEDEAU, CBC NEWS,
OTTAWA.
>> Rosemary: SO A GOOD THING
THAT "AT ISSUE" IS HERE WITH A
CLOSER LOOK AT ANDREW SCHEER'S
TROUBLES AND HOW HE'S HANDLING
IT ALL.
ANDREW AND CHANTAL AND PAUL
WELLS WILL KICK THAT AROUND IN
ABOUT 20 MINUTES' TIME.
>>> WE'VE GOT OUR EYE ON ANOTHER
POLITICAL BATTLE FORMING
TONIGHT.
MANITOBA IS FIRING AT QUÉBEC,
AND QUÉBEC IS FIRING BACK.
IT'S ABOUT AN AD CAMPAIGN TO
RECRUIT FRENCH-SPEAKING PUBLIC
SERVICE WORKERS.
IT LISTS 21 REASONS, A DIRECT
SHOT AT BILL 21.
AND IT'S GOT PEOPLE TALKING.
ALISON NORTHCOTT PICKS UP THE
STORY.
>> IF I WANTED TO BE A CROWN
PROSECUTOR, FOR INSTANCE, I CAN
NO LONGER DO THIS.
>> Reporter: LAW STUDENT STIBA
SHABU IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF
PUBLIC SERVANT
THAT MANITOBA WANTS TO ATTRACT
WITH THIS CAMPAIGN.
>> IT MAKES ME FEEL REALLY
EXCLUDED AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ME
FEEL THAT I WAS BORN AND RAISED
HERE AT ALL.
>> Reporter: A COMMON
COMPLAINT BY THOSE AFFECTED BY
QUÉBEC'S BILL 21 WHICH FORBIDS
SOME PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS FROM
WEARING RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS ON THE
JOB.
DOES THIS TEMPT YOU?
>> IT DOES, IT DOES.
AND THOUGH PREVIOUSLY I SAID I
WANTED TO FIGHT THIS AND I WANT
TO STAY HERE AND THIS IS HOME
FOR ME AND THIS IS WHERE I FEEL
THAT I BELONG.
IF THIS PERSISTS, WHY WOULDN'T I
GO SOMEWHERE WHERE I AM WELCOME?
>> Reporter: THE AD LISTS THE
FRANCOPHONE COMMUNITY AND
CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND THE
WINNIPEG JETS AND THIS YEAR'S
GREY CUP CHAMPIONS, THE BLUE
BOMBERS.
QUÉBEC POLITICIANS ARE NOT
IMPRESSED.
>> MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
THIS IS A JOKE.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT PEOPLE
WOULD RATHER GO TO MONTRÉAL,
QUÉBEC CITY AND ELSEWHERE IN
QUÉBEC THAN TO LIVE IN WINNIPEG
OR MANITOBA.
IF MR. PALLISTER THINKS THAT
HE'S HELPING THE PEOPLE HERE
THAT ARE THE VICTIMS OF THAT
LAW, HE'S MAKING A BIG MISTAKE.
HE'S FUELLING THE RHETORIC OF
OF FRANÇOIS LEGAULT AND THE
PARTI QUEBECOIS.
>> THIS MONEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
BETTER SPENT FOR FRENCH SERVICES
IN MANITOBA.
AND I THINK THAT MR. PALLISTER
MUST WORK TO KEEP HIS OWN PEOPLE
IN MANITOBA, LIKE DUSTIN BUFFIN
WITH THE JETS.
>> Reporter: LEGAULT WITH A
JAB AT PALLISTER ABOUT THE
TROUBLES THAT JETS ARE HAVING
WITH ONE OF THEIR STAR PLAYERS.
MANITOBA'S PREMIER SAYS THAT HIS
PROVINCE NEEDS BILINGUAL CIVIL
SERVANTS, BUT HE IS ALSO SENDING
A MESSAGE.
>> THIS BILL MAY BE SEEN AS
POPULAR BY MANY PEOPLE IN QUÉBEC
AND OUTSIDE OF IT, BUT IT
DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.
>> Reporter: BOTH PALLISTER
AND LEGAULT WILL BE AT THE
PREMIERS' MEETING NEXT WEEK AND
NEITHER SAY THEY'LL BACK DOWN
FROM THEIR POSITION.
ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS,
MONTRÉAL.
>> Rosemary: MANITOBA'S
PREMIER HAS STIRRED THE POT OVER
BILL 21 BEFORE.
IN JULY, PALLISTER WROTE TO
QUÉBEC PROFESSIONAL
ORGINISATIONS AND
COLLEGES AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS,
INVITING PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS
TO HEAD WEST.
BUT, ANDREW, NO REAL TAKERS.
>> Andrew: OKAY, ROSIE.
WELL, THE WAIT CONTINUES TONIGHT
FOR A DECISION ON THE FUTURE OF
CALGARY FLAMES' COACH BILL
PETERS.
BUT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE
FORMER PLAYER WHO ACCUSED PETERS
OF USING THE N-WORD REPEATEDLY A
DECADE AGO.
AND IT'S ABOUT PETERS' APOLOGY.
HERE'S DEVIN HEROUX.
>> Reporter: AFTER A FLURRY OF
REACTION AND DAYS OF
SPECULATION -- SILENCE.
AS THE HOCKEY WORLD WAITS AND
WATCHES FOR THE CALGARY FLAMES'
NEXT MOVE.
AND SO TODAY WAS DOMINATED BY
STATEMENTS BY THE TWO MEN AT THE
CENTRE OF ALL OF THIS.
FROM THE FLAMES HEAD COACH BILL
PETERS, A LENGTHY NOTE TO THE
TEAM LAST NIGHT, APOLOGIZING FOR
OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE USED IN A
PROFESSIONAL SETTING A DECADE
AGO.
PETERS ALSO SAID THAT HE
APPRECIATED THE THOROUGH REVIEW
OF THIS SITUATION BEING
UNDERTAKEN BY THE FLAMES.
"IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO," HE
SAID, "AND I SUPPORT IT FULLY."
BUT NO APOLOGY TO AKIM ALIU WHO
TODAY RESPONDED SAYING THAT HE
FOUND PETERS' WORDS MISLEADING,
INSINCERE AND CONCERNING.
AND THAT HE'S ACCEPTED AN
INVITATION FROM THE NHL TO MEET
AND DISCUSS THIS SITUATION.
MEANWHILE, THE WAIT CONTINUES
FOR A DECISION FROM THE TEAM.
>> WE ARE NOT TRYING TO STALL OR
TAKE TIME OR DRAG OUR FEET.
IT'S A SERIOUS MATTER.
>> Reporter: THIS LEGAL
ANALYST SAYS THAT THE DELAY ALL
COMES DOWN TO BUSINESS.
>> IF THE FLAMES KEEP A COACH OR
HANG ON TO BILL PETERS AS A HEAD
COACH, SOMEONE WHO HAS
EFFECTIVELY CONCEDED THAT HE
USED THE N-WORD, THAT AT A
FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL IS SIMPLY NOT
GOOD FOR BUSINESS.
SO SET ASIDE MORALITY AND SET
ASIDE LEGAL ISSUES.
>> Reporter: MACRAMELLA SAYS
THAT THE
FLAMES CAN FIRE PETERS AT ANY
MINUTE, BUT CONDUCTING A
THOROUGH INVESTIGATION COULD BE
BENEFICIAL.
>> IF THEY FIRE HIM WITH CAUSE,
IT IS GOOD CAUSE, THEY WILL HAVE
TO NOT PAY HIM OUT ON WHAT IS
OWED ON HIS DEAL.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO ASSESS
HERE, CAN WE FIRE HIM WITH
CAUSE.
>> Reporter: FOR SOMETHING
THAT HE SAID 10 YEARS AGO,
PRECEDENT SETTING PERHAPS IN THE
SPORTS WORLD...
>> SCORES!
>> Reporter: AND THE CALGARY
FLAMES TEAM TRYING ITS BEST JUST
TO KEEP PLAYING HOCKEY WITHOUT A
HEAD COACH FOR NOW.
DEVIN HEROUX, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: MAMMOGRAMS ARE A
CRITICAL SCREENING TOOL FOR
BREAST CANCER, BUT FOR WOMEN
WITH DENSE BREAST TISSUE, IT CAN
MISS TUMORS.
A NEW STUDY SUGGESTS
SUPPLEMENTAL M.R.I.s OR
MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGING COULD
BE HELPFUL.
AS KAS ROUSSY TELLS US, IT MAY
HAVE SOME PATIENTS RETHINKING
THEIR OPTIONS.
>> Reporter: THESE DAYS JOAN
BUSH TREASURES THE SIMPLEST
MOMENTS IN LIFE, IN SHARP
CONTRAST TO WORRYING EVENTS 10
YEARS AGO WHEN A ROUTINE
MAMMOGRAM REVEALED A LUMP IN HER
RIGHT BREAST.
>> I WAS SENT FOR FURTHER
SCREENING AT P.M.H., WHERE I HAD
AN ULTRASOUND AND BIOPSIES AND
ULTIMATELY WAS TOLD THAT I DID
HAVE BREAST CANCER.
>> Reporter: A LUMPECTOMY WAS
SCHEDULED, BUT AN M.R.I.
PERFORMED BEFORE SURGERY SPOTTED
THREE MORE TUMORS IN BUSH'S LEFT
BREAST.
>> IT WAS THE WORST DAY OF MY
LIFE AND THE BEST DAY OF MY
LIFE.
>> Reporter: BUSH HAS DENSE
BREASTS, A TRAIT THAT SHE SHARES
WITH ABOUT 40% OF WOMEN.
THE BREAST TISSUE CAN HIDE
CANCEROUS TUMORS, MAKING THEM
HARDER TO SPOT ON A MAMMOGRAM.
>> THE MAMMOGRAM IS LOOKING FOR
THINGS THAT ARE WHITE.
WHEN YOUR BREAST TISSUE IS MORE
DENSE, IT'S MORE WHITE ON THE
X-RAY AND IT'S HARD TO SEE
THINGS THAT ARE WHITE ON WHITE.
>> Reporter: A STUDY IN THE
"NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF
MEDICINE" FOUND THAT GIVING
WOMEN WITH DENSE BREASTS A
SUPPLEMENTARY M.R.I. TO DETECT
CANCER MAY BE MORE USEFUL THAN
MAMMOGRAMS ALONE.
IT INVOLVED 40,000 DUTCH WOMEN
WITH EXTREMELY DENSE BREASTS WHO
HAD NORMAL RESULTS FROM A
MAMMOGRAM.
ABOUT 8,000 OF THE WOMEN WERE
ALSO RANDOMLY OFFERED AN M.R.I.
SCAN.
THE STUDY FOUND THAT A
SUPPLEMENTAL M.R.I. SCAN WAS
MORE EFFECTIVE AT DETECTING SOME
CANCER.
>> THERE IS NO PERFECT SCREENING
TEST.
MAMMOGRAPHY DOES VERY WELL FOR
MOST WOMEN, BUT FOR THE WOMEN
WHO HAVE MAYBE THE 12% OF THE
WOMEN WHO HAVE THE MOST DENSE
BREASTS, WE CALL THEM EXTREMELY
DENSE, MAMMOGRAPHY, ITS ACCURACY
TENDS TO FALL OFF.
THAT'S WHERE SUPPLEMENTAL
SCREENING USING M.R.I. OR
PERHAPS ULTRASOUND CAN FIND
CANCERS THAT WOULD BE MISSED ON
MAMMOGRAPHY.
>> Reporter: M.R.I.s ARE
MORE SENSITIVE AND BETTER AT
DETECTING SMALLER TUMORS
EARLIER, BUT THEY'RE NOT
PERFECT.
THEY CAN ALSO PRODUCE FALSE
POSITIVES.
STILL JOAN BUSH IS GRATEFUL FOR
THE M.R.I. SCREENING SHE GOT.
>> THEY CAUGHT IT AND THEY WERE
ABLE TO TREAT IT.
AND I WAS ABLE
TO MAKE A DECISION TO HAVE A
BILATERAL MASTECTOMY AND I'M
HELPFUL TODAY.
-- HEALTHY TODAY.
>> Reporter: THE QUESTION
UNANSWERED IN THE STUDY REMAINS,
WHETHER AN M.R.I., IN ADDITION
TO A MAMMOGRAM, IMPROVES
SURVIVAL RATES.
>> Adrienne: A SHOOTING VICTIM
SUED A PROPERTY OWNER AND AN
ALLEGED ORGANIZER AND AIRBNB
FOR ARE FOR NEGLIGENCE AFTER
TAKING A BULLET OUTSIDE OF A
TORONTO HOME.
KATIE NICHOLSON LOOKS INTO A
POP-UP HOUSE
PARTY THAT TURNED UGLY AND
WASN'T THE FIRST TO DO SO.
>> RIGHT IN THE BACK OF IT ON
THIS SIDE.
>> Reporter: THE LAST TIME
THAT SEAN McCANN WAS HERE HE
LEFT IN AN AMBULANCE.
IT WAS APRIL, AND McCANN AND
HIS FRIEND HAS JUST FINISHED
EXAMS AND SAW THIS AD FOR A
MANSION PARTY.
SOON AFTER ARRIVING, HE FELT
UNEASY.
>> PEOPLE WERE FIGHTING AND
PUSHING EACH OTHER AROUND.
AND IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM GREAT.
THERE WAS ONE PERSON I SAW WITH
A KNIFE AND THAT'S WHEN WE SAID,
YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GO.
>> Reporter: HE GOT AS FAR AS
THE BACKYARD WHEN SHOTS WERE
FIRED.
McCANN WAS HIT IN THE BACK AND
THE BULLET WENT STRAIGHT THROUGH
HIS PELVIS AND EXITED THROUGH
HIS GROIN.
HE WOKE UP IN HOSPITAL.
>> THE DOCTOR SAID THAT IF IT
BEEN AN INCH TO THE LEFT I WOULD
BE PARALYSED AND AN INCH TO THE
RIGHT, THEY SAID THAT I PROBABLY
WOULD HAVE DIED.
>> Reporter: McCANN IS
SEEKING $5 MILLION IN DAMAGES.
NONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS HAVE
BEEN PROVEN IN COURT.
THE REALTOR AND THE ALLEGED
PARTY ORGANIZER DID NOT RESPOND
TO REPEATED REQUESTS FROM CBC
NEWS FOR COMMENT.
FOR ITS PART, AIRBNB SAYS THAT
THE SENSELESS VIOLENCE REPORTED
HAS NO PLACE IN THE AIRBNB
COMMUNITY AND WE IMMEDIATELY
REMOVED THE BOOKING GUEST FROM
OUR PLATFORM IN APRIL.
AIRBNB SAYS THAT THE PARTY
MANSION LISTING WAS TAKEN DOWN
IN SEPTEMBER, BUT NEIGHBOURS SAY
THAT EVEN AFTER THE SHOOTING,
WILD PARTIES CONTINUED HERE ALL
THROUGH THE SUMMER.
THERE HAVE BEEN ROUGHLY 10
VIOLENT INCIDENTS CONNECTED TO
AIRBNB RENTALS IN THE LAST YEAR
IN CANADA.
AND ON HALLOWEEN IN CALIFORNIA,
FIVE PEOPLE WERE FATALLY SHOT
WHEN AN AIRBNB HOUSE PARTY GOT
OUT OF CONTROL.
AFTER THAT, AIRBNB ANNOUNCED BY
DECEMBER 15th IT WOULD TAKE
ACTION TO LOOK AT SUSPICIOUS
RESERVATION AND STOP
UNAUTHORIZED PARTIES BEFORE THEY
START.
>> TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.
LIKE, I SURVIVED, BUT A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVEN'T.
AND THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO
MAKE UP FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY
IGNORED AND IT NEEDS TO STOP.
>> Reporter: KATIE NICHOLSON,
CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Andrew: WE HAVE LOTS MORE
STILL AHEAD ON TONIGHT'S
"NATIONAL."
A LITTLE LATER, "AT ISSUE" WITH
THEIR TAKE ON
ALL OF THE PRESSURE CONSERVATIVE
LEADER ANDREW SCHEER IS FACING.
>> Adrienne: BUT, NEXT, WHY
OWNING A HOME ON LAKE ERIE THESE
DAYS IS TO RISK WATCHING IT
SLIP, SLIDE AWAY.
(*
>> Andrew: WATER LEVELS ON THE
GREAT LAKES ARE UNUSUALLY HIGH
RIGHT NOW AND THEY'LL LIKELY
STAY THAT WAY FOR SEVERAL
MONTHS.
IT'S MAKING AN ALREADY DESPERATE
SITUATION WORSE FOR MANY
PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG THE SHORE
OF
LAKE ERIE AS THEY WATCH THEIR
HOMES AND COTTAGES SLOWLY SLIP
INTO THE LAKE.
AS ELLEN MAURO SHOWS US,
TACKLING SHORELINE EROSION IS A
MAMMOTH ENDEAVOUR.
>> Reporter: A STORMY DAY ON
LAKE ERIE, RELENTLESS WAVES,
BATTERING HOMES AND ALREADY
GUTTED BY THEIR WRATH.
>> ALL THROUGH THE YEARS IT'S
JUST BEEN KIND OF ERODING AWAY.
>> Reporter: FRANK SPARKS GREW
UP HERE.
HIS DREAM OF RETIRING ON THE
BEACH NOW BEING WASHED AWAY.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN.
IF I COME BACK OUT, HOW MUCH
DAMAGE, OR IF EVERYTHING IS
GOING TO BE LOST, EVERYTHING
THAT YOU WORKED FOR ALL OF YOUR
LIFE.
>> Reporter: THIS YEAR LAKE
ERIE TOPPED ITS HIGHEST LEVEL
EVER RECORDED.
THE HIGH WATER HAS FUELLED
WIDESPREAD SHORELINE EROSION.
DOWN THE ROAD, THE WATER IS
RUSHING IN FROM THE BACKYARD.
>> SEVEN SANDBAGS WITH STEEL
POSTS DRIVEN IN.
>> Reporter: THE NIGHT BEFORE
O'BRIEN SHOWED US HER FUTILE
ATTEMPTS TO HOLD IT BACK, MORE
THAN $100,000 SPENT AND
COUNTING.
>> IT'S VERY STRESSFUL.
LIKE WE JOKE, PTSD, AND I DON'T
THINK THAT IS A STRETCH.
BUT WE CALL IT POST-TRAUMATIC
STORM DISORDER.
>> THE CAPITAL COSTS HERE ARE
VERY SIGNIFICANT.
>> Reporter: TO FIGHT IT
THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL COMMUNITY
MEETINGS, BUT PROPOSALS TO HELP
COSTS TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS, MONEY THAT JUST ISN'T
THERE.
>> WE BOUGHT, LIKE, THE CHEAPEST
HOUSE IN THE NICEST AREA, RIGHT?
AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE MONEY
TO FIX THIS PROBLEM ON OUR OWN.
>> THIS WAS OUR FAMILY ROOM.
>> Reporter: CHRIS BRADLEY
COULDN'T FIX IT ON HIS OWN
EITHER.
MOST OF HIS COTTAGE DESTROYED BY
THE WATER WHICH USED TO BE 12
METRES AWAY.
>> MY WIFE CAN'T COME DOWN HERE.
THE EMOTIONAL TOLL ON ALL OF US
IS, FRANKLY, TOO MUCH.
>> Reporter: BRADLEY HAD
LITTLE CHOICE BUT TO HAVE THE
REST OF THE BUILDING TORN DOWN.
>> I EXPECTED TO COME DOWN HERE
AND TO SEE MY GRANDCHILDREN
HANGING OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH
US.
AND INSTEAD I'M WATCHING IT, YOU
KNOW, DISAPPEAR.
>> Reporter: IT'S A FATE THAT
OTHERS FEAR WITH NO WIDESPREAD
PLAN TO EASE THE EROSION,
HOMEOWNERS LIKE SUE O'BRIEN ARE
PAYING THE PRICE FOR LIVING
BESIDE A RISING LAKE.
>> IF THIS BREACHES, WE'RE GONE.
>> Reporter: GONE, LIKE NEW
HOUSE, NEW PLACE?
>> YEP, GOING BANKRUPT.
>> Reporter: BANKRUPT?
>> YEP.
>> Reporter: ELLEN MAURO, CBC
NEWS, ERIE BEACH, ONTARIO.
>> Adrienne: AMONG THE OTHER
STORIES THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING
TONIGHT, HEAVY WINDS, SNOW AND
RAIN CAUSED CHAOS IN PARTS OF
ATLANTIC CANADA.
LOOK AT THAT, THE AREA AROUND
HALIFAX TOOK THE BRUNT OF
TODAY'S WEATHER SYSTEM, LEADING
TO COMMUTER CHAOS ON THE ROADS,
NUMEROUS FLIGHT CANCELLATIONS
AND HEAVY CONGESTION CONTINUED
THROUGHOUT THE PROVINCE.
AT ITS PEAK, NOVA SCOTIA POWER
REPORTED MORE THAN 43,000
CUSTOMERS WERE IN THE DARK.
>>> VANCOUVER IS THE LATEST
CANADIAN MUNICIPALITY TO
CROSSWALK DOWN ON SINGLE-USE
PLASTICS.
>> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING
IS TO START WITH AN
EDUCATION-BASED APPROACH WITH
ENFORCEMENT TO ALLOW BUSINESSES
TIME TO TRANSITION.
SO WE'LL BE PROVIDING A LOT OF
SUPPORT IN TERMS OF EDUCATION
MATERIALS.
>> Adrienne: STARTING IN
APRIL, SINGLE-USE STRAWS WILL BE
BANNED ACROSS THE CITY, AND A
PLASTIC BAG BAN WILL FOLLOW IN
2021.
BUSINESSES WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED
TO CHARGE .25 CENTS FOR
DISPOSABLE CUPS.
AND RESTAURANTS WILL ONLY BE
ALLOWED TO GIVE OUT PLASTIC
UTENSILS ON REQUEST.
BUSINESSES COULD BE FINED FOR
NONCOMPLIANCE.
BUT THE CITY SAYS THAT THEY WILL
BE LENIENT DURING THE
TRANSITION.
P.E.I. AND NOVA SCOTIA HAVE BOTH
MOVED FORWARD ON PROVINCE-WIDE
PLASTIC BAG BANS.
>>> AND 24-YEAR-OLD NICHOLAS
LATIFI HAS BECOME THE LATEST
CANADIAN TO SECURE A SPOT BEHIND
THE WHEEL
OF A FORMULA 1 RACE CAR.
>> I DEFINITELY FEEL A SENSE OF
PRIDE REPRESENTING
CANADA ON THE WORLD STAGE.
I'M TRULY EXCITED AND TRULY
MOTIVATED AND I CAN'T WAIT TO
GET STARTED.
>> Adrienne: HE'S FROM
MONTRÉAL AND HE'LL RACE FOR THE
WILLIAMS TEAM.
HE'LL JOIN 21-YEAR-OLD LANCE
STROLL ON THE RACETRACK NEXT
SEASON, MAKING THIS THE FIRST
TIME IN THE PRESTIGIOUS CIRCUIT
HISTORY THAT TWO FULL-TIME
RACING SEATING WILL BELONG TO
CANADIANS.
>> Andrew: JUST AHEAD ON
TONIGHT'S PROGRAMME, A CBC
"MARKETPLACE" UPDATE.
WHAT HAPPENED SINCE IT REVEALED
THAT A PLASTIC SURGEON HAD
CAMERAS IN HIS EXAM ROOM?
>> Adrienne: AND, LATER, 36
YEARS
AFTER 96 PEOPLE DIED AT A CRUSH
IN A BRITISH
>> Andrew: AN UPDATE TONIGHT
ON A STORY THAT WE TOLD YOU
ABOUT THAT LED TO TWO OFFICIAL
INVESTIGATIONS.
OUR CBC "MARKETPLACE" COLLEAGUES
UNCOVERED SECURITY CAMERAS
INSIDE OF A DOCTOR'S EXAMINATION
ROOMS, WHERE THE PATIENTS
UNDRESSED.
AND TODAY SOME OF THOSE FORMER
PATIENTS TOOK LEGAL ACTION.
MAKDA GHEBRESLASSIE HAS THIS
EXCLUSIVE.
>> Reporter: SOMETIMES THE
NEWS THAT POPS UP ON YOUR PHONE
IS SHOCKING.
IT WAS FOR THIS WOMAN WHEN LAST
YEAR SHE FOUND CBC'S STORY ABOUT
DR. MARTIN JUGENBURG'S CLINIC
AND THE SECURITY CAMERAS IN
PATIENT ROOMS.
>> I REMEMBER THAT I WAS WALKING
THROUGH MY BASEMENT READING IT
AND THEN I LITERALLY FELL ON TO
THE CHAIR.
AND I WAS OVERCOME WITH
HUMILIATION.
>> Reporter: JUST MONTHS
BEFORE SHE WENT TO THE PLASTIC
SURGEON'S CLINIC FOR A
CONSULTATION.
WE'RE PROTECTING HER IDENTITY.
>> THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ANY
CAMERAS.
AND THE ONLY CAMERA THAT I SAW
WAS THE CAMERA THAT THE NURSE
USED TO TAKE PHOTOS, YOU KNOW,
AFTER I HAD DISROBED.
>> Reporter: THE CAMERAS WERE
UNEXPECTEDLY SPOTTED DURING A
LARGER HIDDEN CAMERA
INVESTIGATION INTO THE MARKETING
OF BREAST IMPLANTS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, IS THERE A 
CAMERA UP THERE?
>> THAT'S FOR THE DOCTOR'S
RECORD.
>> OKAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD
UNCLOTHE IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.
>> Reporter: AT THE TIME
DR. JUGENBURG SAID THAT THEY
WERE FOR SECURITY REASONS.
ALMOST A YEAR LATER HE COULD
FACE A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT.
J.C. IS ONE OF TWO PLAINTIFFS
AND THE OTHER IS A WOMAN THAT WE
FIRST INTERVIEWED IN MAY.
>> I FELT VIOLATED AND HE HAD NO
RIGHT TO DO THAT.
>> Reporter: THE TEAM OF
LAWYERS FILED THE PAPERWORK
TODAY ASKING FOR $75 MILLION
WITH MORE TO COME.
>> IT'S JUST SHOCKING TO HEAR
THAT A DOCTOR WOULD DO THAT,
GIVEN THEIR POSITION OF
AUTHORITY AND A SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP THAT A PHYSICIAN
HAS WITH THEIR PATIENT.
>> Reporter: THEY ALSO ALLEGE
THAT DR. JUGENBURG POSTED PHOTOS
AND VIDEOS OF PATIENTS ON SOCIAL
MEDIA WITHOUT CONSENT.
JUGENBURG HAS PREVIOUSLY DENIED
THIS.
THE ALLEGATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN
PROVEN IN COURT.
MEANWHILE ONTARIO'S PRIVACY
COMMISSIONER FOUND THE DOCTOR
BROKE THE RULES.
THESE DOCUMENTS SAY THAT THE
CAMERAS WERE ROLLING 24/7, THE
FOOTAGE WAS DELETED ABOUT EVERY
30 DAYS.
AND THAT DR. JUGENBURG HAD
ACCESS TO THE LIVE FEED ON HIS
PHONE.
THE CAMERAS HAVE SINCE BEEN
REMOVED FROM EXAMINATION ROOMS,
BUT J.C. SAYS IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
>> EVEN THOUGH THE CAMERAS ARE
NO LONGER ROLLING, HE STILL HAS
TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
>> Reporter: DR. JUGENBURG
STILL FACES MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS.
THE COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS AND
SURGEONS OF ONTARIO HAS
RESCHEDULED A HEARING FOR NEXT
YEAR.
MAKDA GHEBRESLASSIE, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: NOW OUR
"MARKETPLACE" COLLEAGUES REACHED
OUT TO DR. JUGENBURG THIS
AFTERNOON FOR A RESPONSE, BUT
THEY HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK.
>> Adrienne: STAY WITH US,
ROSIE WILL BE BACK IN TWO
MINUTES WITH THE "AT ISSUE"
PANEL.
CHANTAL, ANDREW AND PAUL WELLS
ON A CONSERVATIVE PARTY'S
GROWING DISSENT OVER ANDREW
SCHEER'S LEADERSHIP.
>> Andrew: AND LATER ON THIS
AMERICAN THANKSGIVING, HOW THE
IMPEACHMENT DRAMA IS PLAYING IN
A U.S. COMMUNITY.
(*)
(*)
>> Andrew Scheer: I AM STAYING
ON TO FIGHT THE FIGHT THAT
CANADIANS ELECTED US TO DO.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR INTERNAL
DIVISIONS OR INTERNAL PARTY
POLITICS.
MANY PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS ON
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CAMPAIGN,
WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
CLEARLY, THERE ARE ASPECTS THAT
NEED TO BE IMPROVED UPON.
I WILL BE MAKING THE CASE TO OUR
MEMBERS THAT WE NEED TO STAY
UNITED AND STAY FOCUSED.
>> Rosemary: ANDREW SCHEER
TODAY VOWED TO STAY ON AS
CONSERVATIVE LEADER DESPITE THE
GROWING CRITICISM AROUND HIS
PERFORMANCE DURING THE ELECTION
AND EVEN CALLS FOR HIM TO STEP
DOWN.
SO DOES SCHEER HAVE ENOUGH
SUPPORT FROM HIS CAUCUS, FROM
MEMBERS?
IS THIS THE BEST STRATEGY FOR
THE
PARTY?
IT'S THURSDAY AND TIME TO BRING
IN "AT ISSUE", HOW I MISSED THEM
ALL.
CHANTAL HEBERT IS IN MONTRÉAL.
AND ANDREW COYNE IS IN TORONTO.
AND PAUL WELLS IS WITH ME HERE
IN OTTAWA TONIGHT.
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
I AM GOING TO START WITH YOU,
ANDREW, IF I CAN.
IT DOESN'T SEEM AS THOUGH THAT
THE
CRITICISM AROUND SCHEER IS GOING
AWAY.
IN FACT, IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE
ARE EMBOLDENED, LIKE THE MORE
THEY HEAR OF OTHER PEOPLE SAYING
THINGS, THE MORE THEY FEEL
COMFORTABLE SAYING SOMETHING
TOO.
HOW DO YOU MAKE -- WHAT DO YOU
MAKE, I GUESS, OF HOW HE'S
HANDLING THE RATCHETING UP OF
THE PRESSURE?
>> WELL, HE'S NOT.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE WORST
POSSIBLE SITUATION FOR THE
CONSERVATIVES
WHERE A LEADER WHO IS VOWING TO
STAY AND LARGE SECTIONS OF THE
PARTY DETERMINE THAT HE SHOULD
GO.
WHICH MEANS IN PRESENT FORM,
ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OF THIS,
LEADING QUITE POSSIBLY TO AN
INCONCLUSIVE
RESULT AT THE CONVENTION WHERE
HE GETS SOMETHING LIKE 70%, 75%
AND NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT
WHETHER IT'S ENOUGH OR NOT.
THIS IS THE NIGHTMARE SCENARIO
FOR THEM.
TO SOME EXTENT, THIS IS A
REFLECTION OF THE WAY IN WHICH
HE WAS ELECTED.
HE WAS ELECTED AS THE LEADER AS
THE KIND OF COMPROMISE CHOICE.
EVERYBODY'S SECOND CHOICE.
THE GUY THAT
PEOPLE COULD LIVE WITH.
EQUALLY DISSATISFIED WITH.
AND ON THE WAY UP, PEOPLE --
THAT CAN WORK, PEOPLE CAN DECIDE
THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO
COMPROMISE.
WHEN YOU'RE ON THE DOWNSIDE,
THEN EVERYBODY SUDDENLY
DISCOVERS HOW DISSATISFIED THEY
ARE YOU WITH FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS.
SO HE'S GETTING HIT WITH BOTH
THE PROGRESSIVE
WING SAYING THAT YOU'RE TOO
SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE AND THE
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE SAYING THAT
YOU WERE NOT SOCIALLY
CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH.
AND THE QUÉBEC WING SAYING THAT
YOU CAN'T WIN.
YOU KNOW, EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG
ARE
NOW FINDING A REASON WHY THEY
WERE NOT IN FAVOUR OF HIS
LEADERSHIP AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD
SITUATION FOR HIM.
>> Rosemary: AND THE RESPONSE
TODAY, CHANTAL, DIDN'T SEEM -- I
DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN'T
ADMIT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
AND IT WAS LIKE HE WAS LIVING ON
A DIFFERENT PLANET.
>> YES, AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT
TRUE.
YOU CAN REPEAT SOMETHING FOREVER
AND IT DOESN'T HELP.
MOST OF THE CRITICISM COMES FROM
EVERY SINGLE QUARTER OF THE
PARTY.
SOMETHING CALLED A SCHEER
LOYALIST IS REALLY HARD TO FIND.
AND WHEN YOUR DEPUTY LEADER IN
THE HOUSE OF COMMONS WHICH
PRESUMABLY WOULD BE THE PERSON
THAT WOULD HAVE THE PARTY'S BACK
IN THE HOUSE WHILE YOU'RE TRYING
TO CAMPAIGN FOR YOUR OWN JOB IS
SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT MORE TIME
ON THE LIBERAL BENCHES THAN ON
THE CONSERVATIVE BENCHES, IT
ALSO DOES NOT SPEAK TO A VERY
STRONG PALACE GUARD ON THE
INSIDE.
I THINK THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM
IS THAT AS CONSERVATIVES ARE
WELL AWARE, EVEN MANY OF THE
PEOPLE WHO VOTED CONSERVATIVE
VOTED FOR THE PARTY, BUT VERY
FEW OF THEM SAID THAT I'M REALLY
VOTING FOR ANDREW SCHEER BECAUSE
THAT'S WHO HAS BROUGHT ME TO SAY 
THIS IS PARTY THAT I WANT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU CAN
FIX THAT.
>> Rosemary: PAUL, WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF IT?
>> IF THERE ARE SCHEER
LOYALISTS, AND IF THERE ARE
CONSERVATIVES AT A MINIMUM, EVEN 
THOUGH THEY'RE NOT SCHEER
LOYALISTS, PEOPLE WHO ARE
PERFECTLY
HAPPY TO HAVE HIM AS A LEADER
BECAUSE THEY'RE BEDROCK SCHEER
LOYALISTS, THEY SHOULD SHOW UP
TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE UNITED
CONSERVATIVE CONVENTION IN
CALGARY WHERE THE ALBERTA
PROVINCIAL BASE OF THE
CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IS GOING
TO BE GATHERED.
IF HE GETS A GOOD RECEPTION
THERE, THAT MIGHT HELP.
SO FAR WE HAVE MOSTLY HEARD FROM
TORONTO-BASED CONSERVATIVES WHO
BACKED OTHER CANDIDATES AND MY
COLLEAGUES IN THE PRESS GALLERY.
I HASTEN TO ADD WE HAVEN'T HEARD
FROM ALMOST ANYONE IN THE
CONSERVATIVE PARTY WHO SUPPORTS
HIM.
IF THAT WERE TO CONTINUE
TOMORROW NIGHT -- IF WE WERE TO
GO
THROUGH THIS WEEKEND AND IT
WOULD BE AN EERIE SILENCE IN THE
CONVENTION HALL IN CALGARY, I
THINK THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT
BASICALLY NOBODY IN THE PARTY
HAS HIS BACK AND HE'D BE IN EVEN
BIGGER TROUBLE THAN HE IS
TONIGHT.
>> Rosemary: I MEAN, WE'RE
HEARING A COUPLE THINGS THAT
JOHN BAIRD -- WHO HAD BEEN
TASKED WITH DOING THIS
POSTMORTEM HAS FINISHED IT, AND
THE CONCLUSION IS THAT ANDREW
SCHEER DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT
NUMBER OF LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND
PEOPLE ARE NOT THAT HAPPY WITH
HIM.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC AT
SOME POINT.
AND THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO
SCHEER, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO OVER
THE CHRISTMAS BREAK.
AND THAT'S, OBVIOUSLY, COME FROM
PEOPLE BESIDE HIM AND CRITICS.
SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE HEADED
TOWARDS -- SOMEONE WHO IS
FEELING
THE PRESSURE RATCHET UP SO MUCH
THAT HE HAS TO LEAVE BEFORE
APRIL?
CHANTAL?
>> THE REASON THAT THIS ALL
SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING IN FAST
FORWARD --
>> Rosemary: YES.
>> AND WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING A
PILE-ON, IS BECAUSE OF THE
MINORITY STATUS OF THE
GOVERNMENT.
AND THE FACT THAT AN
ELECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE IN
FOUR YEARS AT THE SET DATE THAT
YOU CAN PREDICT IN ADVANCE.
SO, YES, WE HAVE ALL HEARD THE
SAME THINGS.
BASICALLY, THERE IS SOME
CONSENSUS AMONGST PEOPLE WHO ARE
NOT JUST THE PRESS GALLERY OR
PEOPLE IN TORONTO, BUT MANY
PEOPLE WHO WERE IDENTIFIED VERY
CLOSELY TO STEPHEN HARPER, FOR
INSTANCE, AND WHO HAVE FOUGHT
THOSE BATTLES THAT SCHEER SHOULD
NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO ON UNTIL
APRIL IN A BATTLE THAT HE WILL
EMERGE FROM EVEN WEAKER THAN HE
IS GOING IN.
AND THAT IDEALLY HE SHOULD BE
GONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WHETHER THAT HAPPENS OR NOT,
WHETHER THAT IS WISHFUL
THINKING, I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT
FOR SURE THAT IS THE GOAL.
>> Rosemary: OR SOMETHING HAS
TO CHANGE.
LIKE, SOMETHING HAS TO MARKEDLY
CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT HE'S
APPROACHING THINGS, ANDREW, IF
HE PLANS TO HANG ON?
>> I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT
THERE'S
MUCH THAT HE CAN REALLY CHANGE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE
PARTY HAS TO CHANGE.
HE IS A SYMPTOM, RATHER THAN A
CAUSE, OF A LOT OF THE
CONSERVATIVE WEAKNESS.
THEIR FAILURE TO SAY WHAT THEY
STAND FOR BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID
THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY SELL IT.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
PEOPLE ARE CRITICISING SCHEER
FOR ARE EXACTLY IN THAT PATTERN.
SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT HE'S
BEING UNFAIRLY BLAMED FOR THIS.
IN AND OF HIMSELF, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S TWO REASONS WHY YOU
MIGHT HAVE A LARGE BASE OF
SUPPORT IN THE PARTY.
EITHER BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF HAVE
SOME COMPELLING PERSONAL
QUALITIES THAT PEOPLE ARE
ATTACHED TO AND WANT TO SUPPORT.
OR BECAUSE YOU REPRESENT SOME
PARTICULAR WING OF THE PARTY.
AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE
FINDING IS THAT HE'S GOT NEITHER
OF THOSE BASES OF SUPPORT.
NEITHER IN HIS PERSONA OR IN
TERMS WHAT HE STANDS FOR WITHIN
THE PARTY.
AND SO TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES,
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE
CRIES OF HIS CRITICS THAT IS
REALLY DAMNING AT THIS POINT,
IT'S THE SILENCE OF HIS SUPPOSED
SUPPORTERS.
>> Rosemary: WELL, IT MAKES ME
SORT OF REALIZE -- AND, PAUL,
YOU COULD SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL
--
HOW GOOD STEPHEN HARPER WAS AT
KEEPING THAT COALITION TOGETHER.
AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A FAIR
COMPARISON.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM
THAT SCHEER IS REACHING OUT IN
ANY WAY, THE WAY THAT HARPER
MIGHT HAVE.
>> IT'S FUNNY, I TALKED TO A
FORMER HARPER STAFFER ABOUT TWO
YEARS AGO WHO
SAID THAT THE THING THAT PEOPLE
DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IS HOW
MUCH TIME HE SPENT RECONCILING
THE VARIOUS FACTIONS IN THE
PARTY.
LOOK, THERE ARE OPPONENTS WHO
SAY THAT
ALL CONSERVATIVES ARE ALL THE
SAME, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T
FEEL THAT WAY TO CONSERVATIVES.
AND -- AND BALANCING OFF
INTERESTS AGAINST INTERESTS WAS
A PREOCCUPATION OF THE FORMER
PRIME MINISTER'S.
I AM SURE THAT ANDREW WOULD SAY
TO THE EXTENT OF THINKING OF HOW
THE COUNTRY SHOULD ACTUALLY BE
GOVERNED.
LOOK, IT HELPS TO HAVE MORE THAN
ONE PLAY IN POLITICS.
AND ANDREW SCHEER IS RUNNING THE
SAME PLAY FOR A THIRD TIME.
HE WON THE LEADERSHIP BY HANGING
AROUND UNTIL ANXIETY AND CONCERN
ABOUT MAXIME BERNIER PEAKED AND
THEN HE WON ESSENTIALLY BY
DEFAULT.
HIS CAMPAIGN WAS A MONUMENT TO
THE THOUGHT THAT GOVERNMENTS
DEFEAT THEMSELVES.
AND HE SAT AROUND WAITING FOR
JUSTIN TRUDEAU TO DO THAT.
AND NOW HE'S WAITING FOR WHAT TO
ME IS AN UNPRECEDENTED
GROUND SWELL AGAINST HIM TO
ESSENTIALLY DIE OUT.
AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT
THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING
TO GO.
>> Rosemary: YEAH, AND TALKING
ABOUT THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT
SURE -- TODAY HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT NATIONAL UNITY WHICH WILL
BRING US TO THIS NEXT SUBJECT,
BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT I FELT
THE SAME PRESSURE THERE AND I
WASN'T SURE WHY HE WAS BRINGING
IT UP.
SO LET'S GO THERE.
CHRYSTIA FREELAND IS DOING A BIT
OF A LISTENING TOUR, THE NEW
DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND SHE
MET WITH PREMIER KENNEY AND
PREMIER MOE AND HERE'S A TASTE
WHAT THE TWO HAD TO SAY...
>> WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
HAVING A PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION
TODAY ABOUT HOW WE CAN FIND
COMMON GROUND.
AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE CAN
GET DOWN TO SOME POSITIVE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO DO
THAT.
>> WE HAD A GOOD AND CORDIAL
MEETING WITH THE DEPUTY PRIME
MINISTER.
I APPRECIATE HER MAKING THE
EFFORT TO COME OUT AND TO ENGAGE
WITH MYSELF HERE IN THE PROVINCE
OF SASKATCHEWAN AND OTHER
LEADERS AROUND THE NATION.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, I DON'T
HAVE MUCH TIME, BUT IT DOES SEEM
TO ME LIKE MAYBE A LITTLE SLIGHT
DIAL DOWN FROM THE WEEKS
PREVIOUS, CHANTAL?
>> I THINK THAT BOTH PREMIERS,
KENNEY AND MOE, NEEDED A REASON
TO CLIMB DOWN FROM THEIR
RHETORIC IN THE LEAD-UP TO THE
MEETING ON MONDAY WITH THE OTHER
PREMIERS.
AND TO THE REALITY THAT, YOU
KNOW, THAT THE MAJORITY IN THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS, THE LIBERAL
N.D.P., BLOC, DO NOT THINK THE
WAY THAT THEY HAD HOPED THAT THE
GOVERNMENT WOULD BE INCLINED TO
THINK.
AND I THINK THAT CHRYSTIA
FREELAND IS NOT RESOLVED ANY
ISSUES, BUT HAS GIVEN THEM A
PATH TO CLIMBING DOWN AND THEY
HAVE TAKEN IT.
>> Rosemary: PAUL?
>> ONE THING THAT WE HAVE SEEN
IS THAT IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS A
GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A MEETING.
IF THE OPPOSITE --
[laughter]
IF THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO LET
THAT PERSON STEW BY THEMSELVES
AND BROOD OVER HOW THEY'RE BEING
SNUBBED.
I THINK THAT ONE THINGS
THAT THE STUDENTS OF THE PRIME
MINISTERSHIP SHOULD TAKE AWAY,
NO LONGER SHOULD THEY BE THEIR
OWN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
MINISTER, BECAUSE THAT MEANS
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.
[laughter]
>> Rosemary: YES.
ANDREW?
>> I THINK THIS IS MOSTLY
POSITIONING.
I AGREE WITH CHANTAL THAT
THEY'RE CLIMBING DOWN IN
RHETORICAL POSITIONS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE CLIMBING
DOWN IN SUBSTANTIVE POSITIONS.
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERPLAY
YOUR HAND IN POLITICS AND YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN TO BE THE
BAD GUY, AND SO IT WAS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SOUND
MORE STATESMANLIKE.
NO DOUBT, PROBABLY IN THE
MEETING SHE PROBABLY RUBS THEM A
LITTLE LESS BADLY THE WAY THAT
TRUDEAU WOULD.
SHE'S PROBABLY A BIT BETTER AT
THE DIPLOMATIC ARTS, HAVING
DEALT WITH TRUMP.
BUT WE'LL SEE HOW LONG THIS
PEACE LASTS, BECAUSE I DON'T
THINK THAT -- TAKING TO A POINT
THAT WE
MADE LAST TIME -- I DON'T THINK
THAT SHE'LL HAVE A LOT TO OFFER
THEM.
>> Rosemary: WHEN YOU HAVE
DOUG FORD AS THE GREAT UNIFIER
OF THE COUNTRY --
I CAN IMAGINE THAT INSPIRES --
>> THAT'S HOW MUCH TROUBLE WE'RE
IN.
>> Rosemary: I IMAGINE THAT
INSPIRES JASON KENNEY TO SAY,
WHOA.
A LAST THOUGHT ON THAT, CHANTAL.
WHAT DOES THAT MEETING
NEXT WEEK -- WHAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN THERE AT THAT PREMIERS'
MEETING?
>> THEY NEED TO COME OUT OF THE
-- OUT OF IT NOT LOOKING LIKE
THEY WERE A
BUNCH OF CATS AND DOGS THAT WERE
FLOWN TOGETHER FOR AN AFTERNOON.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO TRY
REALLY HARD TO FIND SOME COMMON
GROUND.
AND FEDERAL AND PROFESSIONAL
POLITICS, THAT USUALLY MEANS
FINDING SOMETHING THEY CAN ALL
AGREE ON THAT OTTAWA IS DOING
WRONG.
>> Rosemary: WHAT MIGHT THAT
BE, ANDREW, DO YOU THINK?
[laughter]
>> MORE MONEY?
[laughter]
IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS SOME
COMBINATION OF MONEY AND POWERS.
AND I AGREE WITH CHANTAL, THAT'S
THE ONLY THING THEY CAN USUALLY
AGREE ON.
>> Rosemary: LAST WORD TO YOU,
PAUL.
>> EVERY PREMIER WHO HAS COME TO
JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN THE LAST MONTH
COMPLAINING ABOUT EQUALIZATION
HAS BEEN TOLD BY THE PRIME
MINISTER, LOOK, THERE'S NO
PROBLEM HERE.
YOU GUYS AGREE AMONG YOURSELF AS
PREMIERS AND TELL ME WHAT THE
SOLUTION IS.
IT'S A DEVILISH RESPONSE.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, THANK YOU,
EVERYBODY.
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.
BEFORE WE GO SUBSCRIBE TO "AT
ISSUE" THE PODCAST FOR EXTRA
CONTENT THIS WEEK.
WE'LL LOOK AHEAD BRIEFLY TO NEXT
WEEK'S THRONE SPEECH AND LOOK
FOR IT ON iTUNES, ANY MAJOR
PODCAST APP, AND OUR WEBSITE
CBCNEWS.CA/THENATIONAL.
>> Andrew: THAT WAS A GOOD
ONE.
STAY WITH US, WE'RE BACK IN TWO
MINUTES' TIME WITH DONALD
TRUMP'S THANKSGIVING SURPRISE.
A WHIRLWIND VISIT TO THE U.S.
TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN.
(*)
>> I'M JAYME POISSON AND
TOMORROW ON CBC'S DAILY NEWS
PODCAST "FRONTBURNER,"
AFTER A CHINESE COMPANY PULLED A
SOCIAL VIDEO CRITICAL OF THE
MASS DETENTION OF UIGHURS, WE
LOOK AT TIK TOK, CENSORSHIP AND
POLITICS.
SUBSCRIBE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR
PODCASTS.
>> Andrew: WELCOME BACK.
EVEN 30 YEARS LATER, ENGLAND'S
HILLSBOROUGH TRAGEDY STILL HAS
THE POWER TO SHOCK.
BACK THEN 96 SOCCER FANS WERE
CRUSHED TO DEATH.
TODAY THE POLICE COMMANDER IN
CHARGE THAT NIGHT WAS CLEARED OF
CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY.
>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UNLAWFULLY
KILLED, CRUSHED.
AND
SOMEBODY HAS TO BE HELD
RESPONSIBLE FOR 96 DEATHS.
IT'S THE BIGGEST SPORT DISASTER
IN BRITISH HISTORY.
>> Andrew: DAVID DUCKENFIELD
WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY TODAY OF
GROSS NEGLIGENCE AND
MANSLAUGHTER.
THE COURT HEARD THAT AS THAT
GAME WAS GETTING UNDERWAY BUT
WITH A HUGE BOTTLENECK OF FANS
STILL TRYING TO GET IN,
DUCKENFIELD ORDERED THE EXIT
GATES OPEN TO LET THEM IN MORE
QUICKLY.
MORE THAN 2,000 FANS THEN
FLOODED INTO THE PLACE WHERE THE
CRUSH HAPPENED.
ACCORDING TO AN EARLIER INQUEST,
THAT WAS THE DIRECT CAUSE OF ALL
OF THOSE DEATHS.
>>> IN TEXAS TONIGHT, THE
FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORKING AGAINST
A FIRE AT A GAS PLANT THAT HAS
FORCED THE EVACUATION OF MORE
THAN 50,000 PEOPLE.
THE FLAMES AREN'T AS BIG AS THEY
WERE YESTERDAY, BUT THICK, BLACK
SMOKE CONTINUES TO POUR OUT OF
THE PLANT.
EVERYONE WITHIN A 6.5 KILOMETRE
RADIUS HAS BEEN TOLD TO LEAVE.
OFFICIALS ARE MONITORING THE AIR
QUALITY CLOSELY.
THREE WORKERS WERE HURT IN THE
INITIAL EXPLOSION.
NO WORD YET ON THE CAUSE.
>>> DONALD TRUMP HAS MADE A
SURPRISE VISIT TO AFGHANISTAN
WHERE HE ATTENDED A TURKEY
DINNER WITH THE U.S. TROOPS.
>> President Donald Trump:
THERE'S NOWHERE THAT I'D RATHER
CELEBRATE THIS THANKSGIVING THAN
HERE WITH THE TOUGHEST,
STRONGEST, BEST AND BRAVEST
WARRIORS ON THE FACE OF THE
EARTH.
>> Andrew: IT WAS THE
PRESIDENT'S FIRST TRIP TO THE
COUNTRY AND HIS SECOND TO A WAR
ZONE WHERE AMERICAN TROOPS ARE
STATIONED.
HE ANNOUNCED THAT PEACE TALKS
WITH THE TALIBAN HAVE RESTARTED
AND HE TOOK TIME TO MEET WITH
THE PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN.
>> Adrienne: AND THIS BEING
AMERICAN THANKSGIVING, WE'RE
TAKING A VISIT TO
FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA, WHERE
PEOPLE ARE NOT TALKING TURKEY,FGHANISTAN.
>> Adrienne: AND THIS BEING
AMERICAN THANKSGIVING, WE'RE
TAKING A VISIT TO
FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA, 
>> Adrienne: WELCOME BACK.
IN THE WAKE OF BLOCKBUSTER
IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS, THERE'S
LITTLE DEBATE NOW OVER WHAT THE
U.S. PRESIDENT DID, AND LITTLE
MOVEMENT IN THE POLLS WHICH SHOW
JUST UNDER HALF OF THE COUNTRY
SUPPORTS HIM ANYWAY.
THE POLLS ARE SNAPSHOTS, THEY'RE
NOT STORIES.
SO FOR ONE OF THOSE WE TURN TO
PAUL HUNTER IN A VIRGINIA SWING
DISTRICT BRACING FOR ITS
THANKSGIVING WEEKEND, DEADLOCKED
OVER DONALD TRUMP.
>> Reporter: ON A BRIGHT AND
SUNNY DAY IN DOWNTOWN
FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA, IT'S
THANKSGIVING WEEK IN AMERICA.
A TIME TO CONSIDER THE WARM
WEATHER, THE FALL COLOURS, AND
THESE DAYS, SURPRISE, SURPRISE,
DONALD TRUMP.
>> WE'RE WITH CANADIAN
TELEVISION AND WE HAVE BEEN AT
THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS ALL
WEEK.
HAVE YOU?
>> UM-HMM.
>> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> WELL, I CAN'T SAY IT ON
CAMERA.
THEY OUGHT TO KICK HIS ASS OUT.
IT'S SIMPLE.
>> Reporter: BUT HERE'S THE
THING ABOUT THOSE IMPEACHMENT
HEARINGS.
SAY ANY NUMBER OF POLLS IN THIS
COUNTRY, THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY
MOVE PUBLIC OPINION MUCH.
WE FOUND IN FREDERICKSBURG IN AN
ADMITTEDLY RANDOM AND
IN AN ADMITTEDLY RANDOM AND
UNSCIENTIFIC SURVEY OPINIONS ON
TRUMP ARE AS DIVIDED AS EVER.
HAVING SOAKED IN ALL OF THAT
TESTIMONY --
>> I WOULD STILL VOTE FOR TRUMP.
IN MY OPINION HE HASN'T DONE
ANYTHING THAT ANY OTHER
PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM HASN'T
DONE.
IT'S JUST THEY'RE CALLING MORE
ATTENTION TO HIM.
AND THERE'S BEEN OTHER
PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE DONE FAR
WORSE.
>> Reporter: AND ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE GREAT DIVIDE -- DID
YOU WATCH ANY OF THE HEARINGS?
>> I WATCHED A LITTLE OF IT.
>> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> I THINK HE'S GUILTY.
>> Reporter: DID YOU THINK
THAT BEFORE THE HEARINGS?
>> YES.
>> Reporter: IN OTHER WORDS,
WHEN IT COMES TO TRUMP, OPINIONS
ARE WHAT THEY WERE.
STILL, AS WE WERE REMINDED,
THERE WAS VALUE IN WATCHING THE
TESTIMONY.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT YOUR
PRESIDENT?
>> I LEARNED THAT HE'S A BULLY
AND THAT SOME PEOPLE DID NOT GO
ALONG WITH WHAT HE WAS DOING AND
THEY TOLD THE TRUTH.
>> President Donald Trump: AND
THEY'RE PUSHING THIS
IMPEACHMENT, WITCH HUNT.
>> Reporter: AS EVER, DONALD
TRUMP HAS HIS OWN VIEWS ON WHAT
AMERICA THINKS OF IT ALL.
>> President Donald Trump:
EVERYBODY SAID, THAT'S REALLY
BULLSHIT.
>> Reporter: AND THE CROWD
CHEERS.
BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S A TRUMP
RALLY.
BACK ON MAIN STREET
FREDERICKSBURG, THOUGHTS ON
IMPEACHMENT REMAIN SPLIT.
>> I THINK THAT IT SHOULD GO
AHEAD.
I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER SEE
THE ELECTION TAKE PLACE AND
HAVING HIM VOTED OUT, BUT I
THINK THAT HE'S DOING HARM TO
THE COUNTRY.
>> NO, IT'S JUST THE OTHER PARTY
IS TRYING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING
HIM DOWN.
AND THEY COME UP WITH DIFFERENT
THINGS TO JUST GO AHEAD AND
BRING HIM DOWN.
>> Reporter: ALL OF THAT SAID
THERE IS SOMETHING, AT LEAST
TODAY, ON WHICH ALL SEEM TO
AGREE.
ON THIS AMERICAN THANKSGIVING,
NO POLITICS AT THE DINNER TABLE.
>> I'M ACTUALLY NOT HAVING
DINNER WITH ONE OF MY BROTHERS
IN RICHMOND BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE?
>> OF THE DIVISIVENESS IN OUR
FAMILY.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE OF THE
CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE?
>> THREE YEARS OF DIVISIVENESS.
VERY SAD.
>> Reporter: A FEELING SHARED
BY MOST WE MET ON A DAY THEY
USED TO BE ABLE TO SET IT ALL
ASIDE.
NOT ANYMORE.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA.
>> Andrew: AND JUST AHEAD, A
POLICE FORCE IN ATLANTA HAS SOME
FUN AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE.
SUFFICE IT TO SAY IT'
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>> Adrienne: SO POLICE
OFFICERS IN BROCKHAVEN,
GEORGIA, ANSWERED A CALL THEY
THEMSELVES SAY THAT NO OFFICER
WANTS TO HEAR -- DOUGHNUTS
SCATTERED ALONG THE CURB AND
INTO THE GUTTER.
BUT THEY DID THEIR DUTIES BUT
THEY DECIDED TO POKE FUN AT
THEMSELVES AT THE SAME TIME.
THE REACTION TO THEIR PLAYFUL
STATEMENTS IS OUR "MOMENT."
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[laughter]
>> HONEST TO GOODNESS, PULLING
UP TO IT I JUST THOUGHT, NO, NO!
THIS IS A WASTE OF PERFECTLY
GOOD FOOD.
THERE WERE NO ACTUAL TRAFFIC
INCIDENTS, NO CRASHES, ONLY THE
DOUGHNUTS MET THEIR DEMISE.
WE DON'T EVEN LIKE TO BE SEEN IN
PUBLIC WITH DOUGHNUTS.
PEOPLE MAKE JOKES.
WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS JUST A
GOOD CHANCE TO KIND OF PLAY ON A
STEREOTYPE BUT STILL TALK ABOUT
A REAL EVENT THAT HAD HAPPENED
AND JUST KIND OF HAVE FUN WITH
IT AND ENGAGE OUR PUBLIC.
ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT MAYBE
20 MILES OR SO NORTH OF US
ACTUALLY HAD TWO DOZEN DOUGHNUTS
DELIVERED TO US, SORT OF WITH
THEIR CONDOLENCES.
THEY SAID THEY HOPED THAT IT
WOULD HELP US TO COPE WITH THE
LOSS.
IN FACT, A DAY AFTER WE POSTED
IT,
SOMEONE WHO HAD SEEN THE POST IN
ARIZONA ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER
COUPLE DOZEN DOUGHNUTS DELIVERED
TO OUR POLICE STATION.
IN TOTAL, I THINK THAT THIS IS A
GREAT EXAMPLE OF SORT OF NEVER
KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE
OFF.
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN HUGELY BEEN
POSITIVE, SORT OF SENDING
THEIR CONDOLENCES, AND LAUGHING
ABOUT IT WITH US.
>> Adrienne: HOW THEY DIDN'T
KNOW THAT A STORY ABOUT COPS AND
DOUGHNUTS WOULD TAKE OFF --
[laughter]
IT WOULD BE BEYOND ME.
I LOVE THAT STORY.
FOR YOUR LOSS, I HOPE THAT THIS
HELPS.
>> Andrew: VERY FUNNY AND, I
MEAN, GOOD OF THEM FOR TAKING IT
IN STRIDE.
LIKE I EMPATHIZE WITH THEM IN
THE SENSE THAT I FEEL THAT EVERY
PROFESSION HAS AT LEAST ONE KIND
OF CRINGEY JOKE THEY HAVE TO
DEAL WITH BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
PART OF THAT PROFESSION.
AND FOR -- LIKE, THE NUMBER OF
TIMES THAT I'VE GOTTEN THE
QUESTION, DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO
WEAR PANTS BEHIND THE DESK?
AND, OF COURSE, I WAS GOING TO
SAY SOMETIMES.
>> Adrienne: NICE.
BOY, THIS WENT
SOUTH REALLY FAST.
>> Andrew: THAT'S "THE
NATIONAL" FOR THIS THURSDAY,
NOVEMBER 28th.
>> Adrienne: GOODNIGHT.
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