AT LEAST WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
IN SOME WAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO SAYING THAT
HE DID NOT BELIEVE KIM JONG UN
KNEW ABOUT THE TRAGIC CASE OF
OTTO WARMBIER, THE AMERICAN
STUDENT WHO DIED SHORTLY AFTER
BEING RELEASED FROM A JAIL IN
NORTH KOREA.
>> IN THOSE PRISONS AND CAMPS,
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND
SOME REALLY BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO
AUTO.
TO SOME REALLY BAD THINGS.
HE TELLS ME THAT HE DID NOT KNOW
ABOUT IT.
AND I WILL TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD.
>> Dana: BRINGING IN COLORADO
SENATOR, A GOVERNOR OF THE
FOREIGN ADMINISTRATION
COMMITTEE.
MAYBE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE
MEANING ENDING IN THE WAY THAT
IT DID.
>> I THINK THAT YOU HAVE A
PRESIDENT WHO IS TRYING TO MOVE
BEYOND PRESS RELEASE DIPLOMACY
AND TRY AND HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH NORTH KOREA.
YOU CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH
THAT STRATEGY.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT KIM
JONG UN HAS NOT CHANGED HIS
FAMILY POSITION FOR DECADES.
WHICH IS TO DELAY THE STALL AND
KEEP THE STATUS QUO.
PROMISING TO TAKE APART A
REACTOR THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN
PROMISED IN THE PAST TO BE TAKEN
APART THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
DONE UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW AND
CERTAINLY U.S. LAW IS GIVING IT
A REST.
SO I THINK THAT KIM JONG UN
REMAINS A TWO BIT DICTATE
DICTATOR, AND WE SHOULD APPLY
PRESSURE IS ON NORTH KOREA WHEN
HE CAN TO SHUT THEM OFF
ECONOMICALLY AND FROM THE WORLD
WHEN THEY WILL DISMANTLE AND
LIVE UP TO THE OBLIGATIONS OF
DENUCLEARIZATION.
>> Dana: WOULD YOU INCREASE
SANCTIONS?
OR WHAT OTHER PRESSURE?
>> OH, HECK YES, EVERY AMOUNT OF
PRESSURE THAT WE CAN.
WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE RELIEVED
PRESSURES.
WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALLOWED
TRANSFERS, OIL TO TAKE PLACE.
AND SOME IN THE TERRITORIAL
WATERS.
WE KNOW THAT THE RUSSIANS DO.
WE KNOW THAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO.
WE APPLY MAXIMUM PRESSURE AND
LIVE UP TO THE LAW AND MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE SQUEEZING EVERY BIT
THAT WE CAN TO FORCE THEM TO THE
TABLE.
AND LIVE UP TO THE PROMISE THAT
KIM JONG UN MADE AT SINGAPORE
PARADE WHICH IS COMPLETE,
VERIFIABLE, ENFORCEABLE
DENUCLEARIZATION.
>> Dana: TWEETING OUT AND OTTO
WARMBIER QUESTION, AMERICANS
NOTE THE CRUELTY PLACED ON OTTO
WARMBIER, AND OUR THOUGHTS ARE
WITH THE WARMBIER FAMILY, WE
WILL NEVER FORGET HIM.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY TRUE PIT
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT
SAYS THAT KIM JONG UN DID NOT
KNOW AND THAT HE WILL TAKE HIM
AT HIS WORD, DO YOU TAKE KIM
JONG UN AT HIS WORD?
>> I HAVE TALKED TO FRED AND
CINDY WARMBIER, AND THE TRAGEDY
THAT THEY WENT THROUGH, OTTO
WARMBIER, THEY MADE A SPECTACLE
OUT OF HIM TO THE WORLD.
ACCUSING HIM OF BEING A TRAITOR,
A SPY.
AND THEY EXECUTED HIM.
THE BLOOD OF OTTO WARMBIER IS ON
THE HANDS OF KIM JONG UN.
THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
THAT HE KNEW ABOUT IT AND
ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN IN THE
RESPONSIBILITY LIES DIRECTLY
WITH KIM JONG UN.
>> Dana: LET ME ASK YOU A
STORY CLOSER TO HOME AND I AM
FROM COLORADO, THAT IS WHERE YOU
ARE FROM.
THE STATE LEGISLATOR JUST PASSED
A LAW THAT SAYS THAT THEY WANT
TO TIE COLORADO'S ELECTORAL
COLLEGE VOTES TO WHATEVER      W
COLLEGE VOTES TO WHATEVER      A
COLLEGE VOTES TO WHATEVER      H
COLLEGE VOTES TO WHATEVER      E
NATIONAL VOTE TOTAL IS.
THIS IS JOINING 11 OTHER STATES,
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP.
AND COLORADO, THE NEW GOVERNOR
IS EXPECTED TO SIGN THE MEASURE.
AND I AM FRANKLY A LITTLE BIT
SHOCKED THAT A SMALL STATES LIKE
COLORADO WOULD DO THIS PIT I
WOULD LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT.
>> THIS SAYS THAT THE PERSON
THAT COLORADO VOTES FOR MAY NOT
GET COLORADO VOTES.
THEY WILL GO FOLLOW NEW YORK,
CALIFORNIA, TEXAS.
THE DESIGN OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE WAS TO GET SMALLER
STATES A VOICE.
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE
LEGISLATION AND SAY, WE DO NOT
CARE IF COLORADO HAS A VOICE.
THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MAY
NOT WIN COLORADO.
AND WE WILL GET THOSE VOTES TO
SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS WHAT THEY ARE
DOING TO SILENCE THE VOTES IN A
STATE LIKE COLORADO.
THIS IS GIVING AWAY OUR
ELECTORAL PROCESS AND OUR VOTES.
>> Dana: WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD
FROM CONSTITUENTS IN COLORADO
ABOUT IT?
>> DISBELIEF.
ARE THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO
NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.
THEY HAVE DONE IT QUICKLY AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE LEGISLATIVE
SESSION.
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT ARE SURPRISED WHEN THE
CANDIDATE WHO WINS COLORADO DOES
