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"Sometimes controversial...
always politically incorrect...
and pro-life without exception, 
without compromise, and without apology.
It's the Pro-Life America 
podcast with your hosts,
Sarah Waites and the president 
of Life Dynamics, Mark Crutcher."
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Hello, I'm Mark Crutcher from Life
Dynamics, and we have been promising you
for some time that we're gonna have a
new podcast and it's ready to take wing.
On Thursday, March the 12th - 
coming up here in just a few days...
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Sarah: That's it taking flight.
Mark: Uhhh, Sarah is flapping her arms like
she's going to take off any second now...
but I'm pretty sure she's not.
Sarah: Well, officially I am taking off. This is my first...name in the credits. This is my origin story.
Mark: Yeah, Sarah is gonna be 
joining me in each show and uh...
Sarah: Bless your heart. (Laughs)
Mark: Yeah, y'all say a prayer for me.
Sometimes if she's out or something happens,
my daughter Sheila will be here. And then we 
really need prayers and when that happens.
Sarah: You'll be begging for me to come back. 
Mark: Right. (Laughs) I don't know about that.
Anyway, we're gonna be talking about a lot 
of things on the Pro-Life America podcast.
And by the way to get it, you'll need to go to: LifeDynamics.com/podcast
Sarah: Yeah, eventually once we have some 
episodes going we'll be up on all the platforms,
but until then it'll be on the website.
Mark: Technology requires that we have at least one in the bank before we actually get onto all those platforms.
But anyway, it's going to be a great deal...
and I want to let people understand something 
before the podcast starts on Thursday.
We're gonna be tackling a lot of issues; and 
we're going to be covering a lot of subjects.
And if you know anything about Life Dynamics, you know this has always been our part of the movement.
We bring a different perspective 
from what other pro-life groups do.
That's gonna be particularly true in this 
new podcast that we're doing because,
we have a lot of opportunities in 
the pro-life movement right now.
I've been at this over 35 
years and I can tell you
we have never had the opportunities to actually 
end this Holocaust like we have right now.
We have opportunities right now that we have 
never even dreamed about having in the past.
And yet, we also have a lot of problems in the pro-life movement
that if we don't address them we're wasting our time.
Sarah: yeah
Mark: We saw that down uh...
Sarah: The Student Action Summit 
that was hosted by Turning Point USA.
Which was great because we got to 
meet a lot of young conservatives.
Most of people who came up
to our table were pro-life.
There were a couple of people who were on the fence and, ironically,  a couple of people who were pro-choice.
Mark: Yep, but the overwhelming majority were pro-life. 
Sarah: Yeah
Mark: But at the same time, 
even they were telling us
that they're not equipped to defend the 
pro-life position on their college campus.
And they're not getting any help from these groups 
that supposedly support the students on campus.
We brought them some materials that they were snapping up...
Sarah: Yeah
Mark: And it was really impressive to see that.
But the fact is, at it's very core, I think the biggest problem we have right now, in this particular arena,
is that we have a lot of people in the
pro-life movement- and again this
especially applies to the people that
have come in in the last few years -
who don't truly know what it means to be pro-life.
Sarah: So let's give a definition - to kick start this off...
What does it mean to be pro-life? 
Like what is a good definition?
Mark: Well I asked some of these 
kids down there and they said,
"oh we're very pro-life." And I'd say,
"okay. What just being pro-life mean to you?"
Sarah: And oftentimes they'll 
say like, "abortion is bad."
Mark: Yeah. "I'm opposed to abortion." 
Being opposed to abortion means nothing.
Sarah: Hillary Clinton says she's opposed to abortion.
Mark: (Laughs) Right. That's right.
One of her biggest quotes is that 
every every abortion is a failure.
Nobody supports abortion. Everybody is opposed to it. Sarah: All the pro-abortion politicians who are out there..
they will openly say with a sad face and, you know, 
stern voices: "oh abortion is a horrible situation."
They don't say, "yay we love abortion." No, they just say, "BUT we think it should be allowed without restriction."
Mark: So your opposition to abortion means nothing. 
Sarah: yeah
Mark: And you say, well then what does 
Pro-Life mean? What pro-life means is:
The unborn child is a living human being and 
entitled to the same rights and privileges
as every other living human being.
Sarah: Boom (mic drop moment).
Mark: That's what being pro-life means. You can give the perfect definition of the word pro-life,
or the term pro-life, and never say the word abortion.
It has nothing to do with abortion. It has to do 
with what you think about the unborn child.
Sarah: yeah 
Mark: And that's why I think we've made 
a mistake -for example with politicians.
Every time somebody new comes out here, they're running for City Council or dog catcher...
Sarah: (Laughs) Do you go to many rallies for 
people who are running for dog catcher?
Mark: I've never heard of 
anybody running for dog catcher.
Sarah: Because I've heard you talk about that a lot like that's a thing...like there's community dog catcher rallies.
Mark: I've never known of anybody electing their dog catcher but, nonetheless, you hear that all the time.
"That guy couldn't win dog catcher," you know.
(Funny voice) "Oh, a wise guy, huh?"
But anyway, no matter what they're running for...
if they're new to the political spectrum 
and we've never heard of them,
the pro-life movement is going to visit them
and ask, "what's your position on abortion?"
We need to quit doing that. 
Sarah: yeah
Mark: What we need to be 
saying to these people is look,
"we're from the local pro-life group, or the state pro-life group, or the National pro-life group, or whatever...
but we don't want to know your position on abortion. 
We don't care what your position on abortion is.
We don't care what you feel about abortion, what you
think about it... We don't care.
Your position on abortion 
means absolutely nothing to us.
What we want to know is: what 
is your position on the unborn child?
Is the unborn child a living human being or not?"
Sarah: And surprisingly, for the pro-choice
community that is a really hard question.
They can't figure that one out. 
Mark: Well again, let's go 
back to the Hillary Clinton analogy...
If you just ask Hillary Clinton, 
"what's your position on abortion?"
"Oh, I'm opposed to it. I think every abortion is a failure. It's a tragedy and no woman wants to have an abortion."
Forget that. That doesn't mean anything.
She's the most radically pro-abortion 
person you could possibly imagine,
and yet she'll tell you she's opposed to abortion.
Sarah: umhmm
Mark: I want to get her in here and say, 
"okay you're opposed to abortion. Why?"
Sarah: She will never come on here. She'll
go on the Howard Stern Show to talk about 
who knows what, but she won't come here.
Mark: Oh she wouldn't come anywhere 
there's somebody pro-life.
But ask her, "what is your position on the unborn child.
Is the unborn child a living 
human being or not?"
And you know the other side is always the 
one that talks about "we support science" -
except when it comes to the unborn child.  That's the area that, all of a sudden now,  science doesn't matter.
It's what you believe and what you feel. 
Sarah: The other day a pro-choice person
told me that it's not a human being - it is a "pre-human being."
And then proceeded to tell 
me that was actual science.
When I asked them what science textbook that 
came from or medical journal or something...
Mark: (Laughs) Right. They don't know.
Sarah: They didn't have anything for me. 
They just kept saying "it's science."
As if I repeated it a bunch, 
that will suddenly make it true.
Mark: Yeah, you get crickets 
when you ask that deal, right?
Sarah: yeah
(cricket noises)
Mark: That's exactly what you get from 
them when you back them into a corner.
"Oh, we're the pro science people." Oh really?
Sarah: Then they just tell you keep your rosaries
off their ovaries - even though you're not Catholic and you've never mentioned religion in the whole discussion.
They suddenly fall back to that.
Mark: Well, I've told you before I
encountered a guy one time who was
carrying a bumper stickers that said,
'keep your rosaries off my ovaries.'
And I thought, pal if you've got ovaries, you've got 
bigger problems than what you're letting on here.
But anyway we're going to try to
bring some sense back to this because,
I have seen over the years, and it happened slowly...
it's the Frank Peretti frog in a hot water deal.
He always made the argument that if 
you put a frog in hot water - he'll jump out.
But if you put him in cool water and heat it 
slowly - he'll stay in there until it kills him...
Because when things happen gradually 
you don't even notice they're happening.
A lot of things have happened in the pro-life movement..
Sarah: In America today that's been so gradual...
Mark: that are just real gradual so that you don't 
know while they're going on until it's a thing.
Sarah: Until you open your eyes 
and like the crazy is all around you.
Mark: Right. Yeah, the nut cases are out there.
So anyway we're gonna be addressing a lot of those issues; and this one that we talked about today
is kind of a central theme of the 
earlier shows that we're going to do.
And it's also going to be very educational. There's a 
lot about this issue that people don't understand.
Sarah: We're gonna call out the crazy though. That's going to be our mission. We're gonna call out the crazy.
Mark: That's what we got you here for. You
recognize who the crazies are - they're your people.
Sarah: (Laughs)
Mark: They just don't happen to be 
pro-life but they're still nutty as you are.
Sarah: Maybe... I'm pretty nutty.
Mark: Pretty Nutty.
And we're gonna try to have some
fun too. There's no reason so we can have...
Sarah: That's why you have me here. I bring the 
fun. You bring the serious - I bring the fun...
Mark: Ummmm is that what it is?
Sarah: Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Mark: Well anyway, I've always said if you can't enjoy doing God's work - then you're not doing God's work.
You know...You ought to be able to enjoy it.
But that's the sort of things that 
we're going to be talking about and
we'll be talking about this 
particular subject a lot more.
Sarah: Be sure to join us this Thursday 
when our episode 1 comes out!
Mark: Episode 1, this Thursday March 12th, 
go to: LifeDynamics.com/podcast
Sarah: We'll see you then!
Mark: We'll see you then.
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Thanks for watching!
