JASON ROSS: Hello!
This is Thursday, Sept. 8th, 2016.
You're watching our weekly LaRouche PAC webcast.
This week we're recording the show a day early,
because of some events coming up this weekend,
which we'll be discussing a little bit later
on.
I'm Jason Ross, I'm the host today, and I'm
going to be joined on the show today by two
guests by Helga Zepp-LaRouche, joining us
from Germany; and by Diane Sare, joining us
from the LaRouche Manhattan Project in the
New York area.
Over the past few weeks, the world has changed
dramatically.
In particular, there have been several major
international conferences that represent a
solidification of a new paradigm and a new
outlook among nations in the world.
These conferences have been the Eastern Economic
Form in Vladivostok, Russia; the G20 meeting,
which concluded in Hangzhou, China; and then
the Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) meeting
with China, which has been taking place in
Laos.
In all three of these conferences, in all
three of these meetings, the issue on the
table has been creating a specific outlook
for economic development and cooperation,
not responding to crises, not the South China
Sea; it's been a long-term outlook on what
will the future be.
I'd like to read a few quotes from presentations
made at these conferences.
At the B20 meeting, the meeting of business
leaders in advance of the G20 meeting in China,
President Xi Jinping stated that "People are
the foundation of the economy.
We have to be oriented to the needs of the
people, and raise their living standards and
the quality of their lives.
We will lift over 57 million people out of
poverty, and poverty will be alleviated in
all poor counties by 2020.
This is a solemn promise to the Chinese people.
We have lifted over 70% of the Chinese population
out of poverty.
We will make the pie bigger and we will continue
the global fight against poverty."
At the G20 conference, which included a very
beautiful opening ceremony, featuring the
work of Beethoven and Schiller with the�Ode
to Joy�set to music, and quite a spectacle,
the leaders there came to a conclusion in
their final communiqu� from the conference,
which included, "We can no longer rely on
fiscal and monetary policy alone to deal with
the crisis.
We envision an all-dimensional, multi-tiered,
wide-ranging approach to innovation, which
is driven by innovation in science and technology,
and goes beyond it, to cover development-philosophy,
institutional mechanisms, and business models,
so that the benefits of innovation will be
shared by all."
Meanwhile, at the G20 conference, the most
Obama had to say to anybody, was some blubbering
about "human rights," and discussion of the
Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which has
absolutely no chance of possibly being passed
through the Congress; it's dead.
At the ASEAN meeting, Obama saw what he thought
was an opportunity to put on the agenda and
make an issue of the South China Sea arbitration
ruling that went against China; he wanted
to put that on the agenda, make that an issue,
and instead, that was not part of the discussion
at all.
What was instead discussed was economic cooperation,
the Maritime Silk Road, the Chinese One Belt,
One Road project.
And, as a matter of fact, on the Philippines
in particular, which had launched the arbitration
case against China regarding the South China
Sea, the new President of the Philippines,
[rodrigo] Duterte, when he was asked about
Obama's plans to lecture him on violations
of human rights in the Philippines' war on
drugs, President Duterte said "I am a President
of a sovereign state, and we have long ceased
to be a colony.
I do not have any master except the Filipino
people; nobody but nobody.
You must be respectful.
Do not just throw questions.�Putang ina,"
which which translates to "son of a whore")
"I will swear at you in that forum," he said
to Obama.
"I do not want to pick a quarrel with Obama,
but I don't kneel down to anybody, except
the Filipino people."
In all of this Obama has absolutely been the
odd man out.
He has nothing to offer the world.Forbes�magazine
has recognized this in its coverage, for example,
where it states that while Obama is talking
about human rights and the TPP that will never
occur, China has been "quickly building its
regional credentials with a heavy focus on
the economy of Southeast Asia....
China's Belt and Road initiative connecting
Asia to Europe economically would let Beijing
and parts of Southeast Asia build a major
transportation network plus industrial co-operation
projects.
Beijing also happens to manage the China-ASEAN
Investment Cooperation Fund, which bankrolls
growth-linked infrastructure, energy and natural
resources projects in Southeast Asia."
I think the contrast between Obama, who has
nothing, with what China and Russia, and the
BRICS nations � very specifically China
and Russia, in particular � have been offering
the world, strategically and economically,
the contrast couldn't be clearer.
With the participation of the G77 leader as
well in these conferences, the world as a
whole is adopting these as policies.
Let's bring on Helga Zepp-LaRouche now.
Helga was a participant in the T20 meeting,
which was a meeting with think tanks, a "Think20"
meeting held in China in preparation for the
G20 heads of state summit which just occurred.
Helga, let me ask you about this.
In your view, how has the world changed over
the past couple of weeks, with these events?
HELGA ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Well, I think it is a
change of world-historical dimensions.
Because what has occurred between the Vladivostok
Eastern Economic Forum, the G20, and then
the ASEAN conference, is a tremendous change,
in terms of where is the power center of the
world.
Let me just go through very quickly what the
significance each of these of these different
conferences was.
In Vladivostok, you had the integration of
the Eurasian Economic Union with the Silk
Road/Belt and Road initiative of China.
That is very important because also Prime
Minister Abe of Japan and President Park of
South Korea participated, and there were agreements
of long-term investments in development of
the Far East of Russia, of Siberia, of huge
energy investments, and integration of all
of these economies of Asia.
This was followed by the G20 Summit, which
I think was really an absolute breakthrough.
First of all, China had put an enormous amount
of effort into the preparation, by convening
many, many pre-conferences, starting already
a year ago, on many, many levels: ministers,
think-tanks, institutions, and organizations.
The intention of China was to transform the
G20 from a mechanism which only responds to
crises like 2008 � the financial crash of
Lehman Brothers � into an organization which
would form an alliance of countries to form
a global governance mechanism which is problem-solving.
Xi Jinping said repeatedly he wants to transform
the G20 from a "talk shop," into a group of
nations which�act�together.
Looking at it, this was accomplished in many
ways.
The Western media are hysterically and desperately
trying to belittle this outcome of the conference,
by saying "there were all these issues," but
the only people who raised these so-called
"issues," like the South China Sea conflict,
and the issue of the Arbitration Court in
The Hague,, and all other divisive issues,
was really the West.
What happened is that the overwhelming number
of nations are moving to adopt the Chinese
model of economy.
They are very right to do so, because China
has proven an economic miracle of such dimensions,
Xi Jinping said, to transform a country of
1.4 billion people has never been undertaken
in history, and the fact that China could
uplift 700 million people out of poverty into
a very decent living standard, is also unprecedented.
One of the outcomes of the summit was the
adoption of a plan to eliminate poverty all
over China by 2020, that is, only four years
from now.
China succeeded to put the Chinese economic
model as the attractive model for everybody
to join, in a "win-win" perspective, on the
agenda.
Many countries must say, "Yeah, we can have
the same economic development like China;
that is much more favorable, than to join
the United States or NATO or the Europeans
in confrontation of a geopolitical nature."
The success of this summit is really unbelievable.
It has changed the situation in the world,
I think for the good; because the unipolar
world, for sure, does not exist any more.
As a matter of fact, as you mentioned,�Forbes�magazine
and�Time�magazine had quite hysterical
articles saying that Obama's "Asia pivot"
policy has completely failed; this was the
last opportunity to woo the countries of the
region, but this completely failed, and the
"Asia pivot" of Obama is completely dead;
it failed.
The G77, the Non-Aligned Movement, the ASEAN
countries � they are all are now moving
in a completely different direction, and especially
the fact that South Korea and Japan participated,
with Russia and China in this Vladivostok
conference, proves that these countries who
are obviously allied with the United States,
but do not want confrontation against Russia
and China any more.
So this is extremely important.
And it means primarily that those countries
of the world which are not of the old regime
of the World Bank, the IMF � the so-called
"Washington Consensus," the so-called Bretton
Woods institutions � they had no voice,
and they now have a voice.
I think it is really very important that China
explicitly adopted developing nations and
emerging economies.
First of all, they invited all of them � or
a very large representation of them � to
participate in the G20.
China expressed the absolute commitment that
every fruit of technological innovation would
be shared with these countries, in order not
to hold up their development.
Now, this is a beautiful idea, which the first
time was expressed by the German thinker Nikolaus
of Cusa in the 15th Century, who already then
had said that science and technology are so
important for the development of mankind,
that every time there is a new invention,
it should be put in an international pool
� to use modern words to say it � and
that every country should have, then, access
to it, not to be slowed down in their development.
It's an incredible change, because it means
that, for the first time, an idea which was
expressed by my husband Lyndon LaRouche in
1975, when he proposed a plan to develop the
Third World, and he called it the International
Development Bank [idb].
This was the idea which he presented both
in Bonn, Germany at the time, and in Milan.
He at that time wanted to have a $400 billion
technology transfer per year to the developing
sector from the advanced countries, in order
to build up infrastructure, to build up industrialization
and agriculture in the Third World.
He gave a very concrete form to a demand of
the Non-Aligned Movement, which in 1976 at
the Non-Aligned Movement in Colombo, Sri Lanka,
had adopted a resolution demanding a just
New World Economic Order.
That Non-Aligned Movement resolution 90% of
the words were those of the IDB.
But you know what happened at that time was,
all the leaders of the countries who had taken
the initiative to fight for this � like
Mrs. Gandhi from India, Mrs. Bandaranaike
from Sri Lanka, Bhutto from Pakistan � all
these leaders were either killed or destabilized;
and this whole effort had a tremendous setback
and it did not function.
Now as you probably know, and some of our
viewers may know, we have been fighting in
the LaRouche Movement ever since that time
� it's now 40 years we have been fighting
for the realization of the IDB or an IDB-like
plan for the Third World; but the World Bank
and the IMF, for all these years have done
the exact opposite.
The IMF conditionalities would completely
deny any kind of development by having conditions
which would force developing countries to
pay debt instead of investing in infrastructure.
They created the debt trap even, to make it
impossible for countries to develop.
So, the miserable condition of Africa, and
many other countries in Asia and the Middle
East and some countries in South America,
is the result of the conscious policy to suppress
development.
Now, after the Asia crisis [in 1997-98] the
Asian countries obviously realized that they
had to do something to protect themselves
against speculation of George Soros at the
time, so a process of creating new institutions
developed.
One was the Chiang Mai Initiative; but then
recently � about three years ago � China
took the leadership together with other BRICS
countries, to create a completely alternative
set of banking institutions.
The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB);
the New Development Bank of the BRICS; the
New Silk Road Fund; the Maritime Silk Road
Fund; the Shanghai Cooperation Organization
Bank.
So, you have now a completely alternate system
of banking which is�not�casino; but only
gives credit for investment in real infrastructure
in the real economy.
So, what is happening now?
I think people have to appreciate that, that
what happened at the G20 meeting is the victory
of a struggle of 40 years at least; to make
it possible for human beings in Africa, in
the so-called developing sector, to have a
chance for the future.
Such a powerful coalition has now emerged
� the strategic alliance between China and
Russia; Putin was the guest of honor at this
G20 meeting � so the world really has changed.
It's very important to say that these articles
in�Forbes�magazine and�Time�magazine
really don't get it.
It's not anti-American; it's not anti-European.
Xi Jinping and the other leaders have expressed
many times that they want the United States
and Europe to join in a "win-win" perspective.
So what is on the table now with the G20 meeting
is for the first time a strategic initiative
which is not geopolitical; because it offers
a level of reason to cooperate internationally
for the common aims of mankind.
I think this is a tremendous historical breakthrough,
which we really must make sure that the American
people find out about what it is, and not
be misled by mediocre journalists, who just
can't think differently than geopolitics.
It's like somebody who is evil, cannot imagine
when he talks to a really good person, that
the other person is not also evil.
So what you read in the Western media is just
the projection of the degenerate thinking
of the media; but it's not what happened at
this summit.
So, let's make sure people really understand
the historic significance of this change.
ROSS: Great!
I think what you went through in terms of
the history of your involvement, of your husband
Lyndon LaRouche's involvement, of the LaRouche
Movement's involvement over the past four
decades in creating the victory for the policy
that's being announced at these conferences,
really goes to show the power of an idea.
That over cynicism or over what seemed to
be the structures and control of things, a
good idea and successful and intense and ongoing
organizing for it, really can make things
happen.
I was going to ask if you wanted to say more
about the history of the LaRouche Movement's
involvement in this; or also if you have anything
to say about how we're going to get the U.S.
to join in this development instead of being
opposed to it?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Well, first of all, I would
like to make a short comment on the ASEAN
conference, because that was in the footsteps,
or following the G20 meeting; and that dispute
is now settled.
Because the ASEAN countries together with
China, all agreed that all the disputes will
be solved through peaceful negotiation and
dialogue; they will work out a Code of Conduct
until the middle of next year to this effect,
and jointly fight threats to security like
terrorism and other threats.
They will act on the basis of the UN Convention
of the Law of the Sea, or UNCLOS; and that
means all these efforts to hype up the conflict
between the Philippines and China with The
Hague Arbitration Court has not succeeded.
This was an effort to cause disunity, but
this ASEAN conference said, "No, we want to
have joint economic development.
We will revive the regional economic development
organization."
So, it shows that the foreign policy of China
� not only at the G20 � was changing the
agenda completely; but also in terms of regional
conflict, that if you have a "win-win" perspective
where you take into account the interests
of the other, you can find solutions.
So then what is left for Obama, some papers
were writing, was the implementation of the
TPP; but as you already mentioned, both the
House and the Senate and the two Presidential
candidates all have said the TPP is out.
The Speakers of the two Houses have said it
will not get on the agenda this year; which
means not during the time of Obama.
So, the TPP is dead; the TTIP � it's the
European version of the same thing � is
also dead.
So, I think the world really has changed;
unipolar demands and the idea that you can
decide rules on behalf of one country is no
longer in existence.
We have entered a completely new era of respect
for the sovereignty of the other country,
and an alliance of essentially republics for
a greater good.
This is obviously a really important development.
Not only does it mean that the United States
has the chance to go back to the foreign policy
of John Quincy Adams � because that is exactly
what he had outlined for the United States
to do; but it also means that the kind of
system of perfectly sovereign nation-states
working together for a joint development � which
we have pushed, especially naturally Mr. LaRouche
has pushed, for over 50 years � this is
now becoming a reality.
So, I think that we can be very happy about
that, because the LaRouche Movement for the
last 40 years, but especially the last 25
years, convened literally hundreds of conferences
around the world; in every major U.S. and
European city, in Rio de Janeiro, in S�o
Paolo, Brasilia, Mexico, Beijing, New Delhi,
Moscow.
Many even in Australia, in Egypt, in other
African countries; we had seminars, conferences.
I think we have now a renaissance movement
and a world movement for development.
Since you mentioned the beautiful gala concert
which preceded the G20, this was, in a certain
sense, similar to what we are doing with the
dialogue of Classical culture; because it
started with a very beautiful series of Chinese
folk songs, then it had scenes of the ballet
of�Swan Lake� danced in a lake � so
the dancers would make sort of little fountains
by each step, because they would step into
the water.
It gave it an unbelievable effect.
And naturally, the fact that they chose the�Ode
to Joy, the beautiful poem by Schiller composed
by Beethoven; where the text at one point
says, "All men become brethren."�"Alles
Menschen werden Br�der", which is the poetical
expression of the "win-win" perspective; that
there is a higher goal of mankind.
And that they choose that to be the high point
of the gala, really shows that they have understood
something very fundamental.
They said, "Text written by Friedrich Schiller"
so naturally many people would have thought
about the Schiller Institute; and we have
used the�Ode to Joy�many times to express
the same idea.
So, I think that we can be really proud; because
we did not do everything, but we had a very
good part in producing this beautiful result.
ROSS: Wonderful!
I'd like to return to get more thoughts from
you, but I'd like to bring in Diane Sare at
this point to discuss one of the opportunities
for changing the United States.
Which is that this weekend, this Sunday, is
the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks from
2001.
Diane � who is the founder and managing
director of the Schiller Institute New York
City Community Chorus, as well as a member
of the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee � has
been very engaged in a process that Mr. LaRouche
has called a "Living Memorial" for 9/11; which
is a series of concerts that are taking place
this weekend.
I'd like to ask Diane about that, and first
mention something about the context; which
is that over the past month we've had the
release of the 28 pages.
The 28 classified pages of the Congressional
Joint Inquiry into 9/11; and we've got scheduled
for a vote in Congress tomorrow the JASTA
bill � the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism
Act � which would make it possible for the
family members, for victims of 9/11 to sue
Saudi Arabia directly in U.S. courts for having
aided in the commission of an attack on U.S.
soil.
This has the potential to really transform
9/11 from an opportunity for those pushing
a policy of conflict and war, to really get
justice on this, by redefining American strategic
policy.
Let me ask you, Diane, you've been very involved
in this, of course.
Could you talk to us about the conception
of a Living Memorial?
What's happening this weekend?
How are we putting that into practice?
DIANE SARE: I'll situate it in a question
you asked earlier of Helga.
The question is, how can the U.S. join this
New Paradigm?
What is holding us back?
One very important aspect is not simply the
idea of a unipolar world; but a unipolar world
which is based on fantasy, and lies, and delusion.
Which we have seen in particular � I wouldn't
say it began with the terror attacks of September
11, 2001 � but after that, what did you
have, since the truth was not told?
You referenced the 28 pages being released,
and the potential for JASTA to be passed this
week.
What happened?
We had an attack which was [audio loss 29.36],
and instead we invaded Iraq.
Then, we invaded Libya.
Now, we have an insane President Obama who
wants to overthrow Assad.
The actions of the United States on behalf
of this British-Saudi Empire have explicitly
created an increase in terror attacks around
the world; an increase in war; an increase
in the death rate.
I was reading this morning that as many as
400,000 people in the New York metropolitan
area have been affected by the attack on the
World Trade Center, because of all of the
toxic debris that was blowing through the
air.
You have over 1,100 people who have contracted
rare forms of terminal cancer; and we run
into them all the time here in New Jersey,
people who were first responders, who were
security, who were police who worked in the
area.
So, you've had a great injustice; and because
the injustice has been allowed to continue,
the crime has only grown in magnitude.
The number of people who have died as a result
of this has been expanding.
[audio loss 31:10] ... what potential to remedy
that situation; to bring justice, which would
in a sense, clear the conscience of the American
people to make us morally capable and morally
fit to join with the rest of the world in
this New Paradigm?
What Mr. LaRouche said explicitly when the
question came up at one of the Saturday town
hall meetings, on the idea of what can we
do for these people who died on September
11?
He said, a Living Memorial.
So when I think of a Living Memorial, I think
of Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg and his words
that: the dead have already consecrated this
ground; but it is up to us, the living, to
make sure that they have not died in vain.
Therefore, what we are seeking to do here,
by doing something which is a completely beautiful
and noble thing, is to enable the American
people to address this; and to insist that
our nation become something different than
what it was.
It is not a coincidence that this is occurring
at the same time that we have these extraordinary
breakthroughs.
ROSS: You could say more.
I know that over the weekend we've got the
Schiller Institute chorus is going to be participating
in a series of concerts of the Mozart�Requiem,
of spirituals and other pieces, on Friday,
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.
Could you tell us how the participation in
these kinds of events shows a potential to
change people?
What kind of responses have you been getting
from musicians, from politicians, from others
involved in these events?
What significance does this show you it having
already?
SARE: Well, I think perhaps the most exciting
thing that's occurred, is the growth of the
chorus; because the people who participate
in the chorus are the ones who in a sense
will be the most transformed by these events.
We began the chorus almost two years ago,
in December of 2014, in the wake of the choking
death of an African-American man who was strangled
by the police in Staten Island, and the grand
jury determined that there was no wrongdoing
on the part of the police.
There was a great deal of anger which was
threatening to rip apart the city.
And we said why not do something beautiful,
dedicated to the sanctity of human life or
the question of the brotherhood of man?
Let's not let ourselves be divided; let's
not have fits of rage.
And the police officers who also have been
put in a bind, because they're trying to protect
our cities, our poorest populations which
have been destroyed and made insane by the
drug epidemic which is funded and run out
of Wall Street.
So, what occurred is, we had about 100 people
show up to sing; one of whom suggested that
we form a community chorus, which I did.
We went from week upon week where we had 3
people, 5 people, 12 people; finally a core
of about 40.
I can say at the performance of the MozartRequiem�that
we will be doing in Manhattan on Saturday,
there will be about 160 people in this chorus.
They are themselves telling others that they're
profoundly affected.
We know that members of the Fire Department
in Brooklyn � the brigade where every single
one of them was killed on September 11th � they
hold a special Mass every year.
This year, our chorus is going to be involved
in singing the Mozart�Requiem�as part
of the Mass; and members of the Fire Department
there were very moved that someone had thought
to do something on this level to honor those
people who made the ultimate sacrifice in
the aftermath of that.
So, it's opening up and inspiring many people.
Instead of just saying, "We're going to swallow
this, we're going to take it.
We're not going to talk about this.
We're going to act like nothing happened,
and we're going to presume we can never get
justice."
There's a sense now that "No, we don't have
to go along with this any more.
We�can�get justice."
I would just say that my point earlier, that
in this way, the United States could be transformed
to make it possible that we would no longer
act as a cat's paw for the British Empire;
but be capable of joining with China and Russia.
And I'll further say that the beauty of this
potential development has absolutely nothing
to do with the stupid elections and the idiotic
candidates that we have; but is from a much
higher standpoint.
ROSS: Good.
Diane, did you have anything else you'd like
to say on that topic?
I'd like to ask Helga a question.
Do you have anything else, Diane?
SARE: Go ahead; that's fine.
ROSS: OK.
Well, I wanted to ask Helga, let's paint for
our viewers an idea of a future, if we could.
With the U.S. dropping this zero-sum game,
geopolitical approach, with the U.S. and Europe
adopting the proposals that you're putting
forward, what could the world be like in 5
or 10 years?
Is this an endless, perpetual fight?
Or what does victory look like?
What could the world be like?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Well, I think things can change
very quickly if the United States and Europe
would adopt the Glass-Steagall banking separation
law; which is, as you know, in bills in Congress
in the Senate, and I was quite happily reacting
when I saw that Black Lives Matter is now
demanding from Hillary Clinton that she should
adopt Glass-Steagall.
Because you can only fight racism if you fight
the injustice caused by Wall Street; I thought
this was an irony.
So, if the United States and Europe � which
is bankrupt; let me just spend one sentence
on that.
China has growth rates anywhere from 6.7%,
they want to have now 7% again; India had
even 8% growth rates.
Other Asian countries are going in the same
direction.
And what is the growth rate in Europe?
The new statistics of the Eurozone just came
out � 0.3%; and in France, Italy, and Finland
� 0%.
Then naturally, all the parameters are really
alarmist; the headlines today are Draghi,
the head of the European Central Bank, has
no more options.
He's running out of options because of negative
interest rates, quantitative easing, helicopter
money; all of these are signs of a dying system.
And then naturally, you have Deutsche Bank,
which is having all the parameters like Lehman
Brothers in 2008; the credit default swap
costs are now exactly like for Lehman Brothers
just before it blew up.
If that happens, you could have the next 2008
crisis this September or October.
So, the fight for Glass-Steagall is super-urgent;
and naturally, as Lyndon LaRouche has stressed
very emphatically with his Four Laws, this
is not enough.
Then you need to have a credit system, and
you need to issue credit for real investment.
Now, if these changes can be done quickly
� this year � even before the U.S. election
occurs, then there is no reason why the world
cannot enter a completely New Paradigm; stop
geopolitical confrontation.
The danger of war is not yet eliminated; I
don't want to make a false security when it's
not there.
But at least with the new alliance between
Russia, Turkey, Iran, the Syria question can
be solved.
With the 28 pages and the JASTA bill, maybe
the Saudi support for terrorism can also be
brought to an end.
Then, even the German Economic Development
Minister from the CSU � the Christian Social
Union � made a speech yesterday in the Parliament,
demanding a Marshall Plan for Africa.
He said, this present global system is a failure;
it has created forms of early capitalism in
many parts of the world.
This cannot continue.
In the next 30 years, 2 billion babies will
be born alone in Africa; they need many jobs,
many teachers, real investment.
He demanded that the WTO [World Trade Organization]
be transformed from a free trade into a fair
trade mechanism.
So, this is a conservative politician from
Germany of the Merkel government; and he's
the only one who so far has the courage and
the vision to say these things.
But that's actually true.
With the new alliance I described earlier
in the context of the G20, now Japan is starting
to invest massively in Africa; and this was
welcomed by China.
China said we are not in Africa for competitive
reasons, but the need for development is so
big, we are happy if India and Japan are all
investing; and naturally, Europe should invest.
The United States should have to overcome
the poverty and build up the Middle East;
rebuild the war-torn region � Iraq, Afghanistan,
Syria, Yemen, Libya, all of Africa.
If all of these countries would be developed
with the extension of the New Silk Road program
and all countries would work together, poverty
could be eliminated in a very short period
of time; maybe in two years.
Gerd M�ller, the Development Minister, pointed
out that 80% of Africans still do not have
access to electricity.
Now that could be very, very quickly changed;
we have developed in our program of the World
Land-Bridge, a comprehensive development plan
for Africa.
Infrastructure, bridges, ports, fast train
systems, roads, the development of agriculture
and industry, the creation of large amounts
of freshwater to fight the desert through
peaceful nuclear energy, desalination of ocean
water, the ionization of moisture in the atmosphere.
In a few years, Africa and those parts of
the world which are still in poverty could
look like beautiful gardens, forests, agriculture,
new cities.
People studying to become scientists, to become
musicians, to become artists.
The human potential for creativity has just
been scratched on.
So far, we have only outstanding geniuses
like once a century.
You had Plato, Cusa, Kepler, Leibniz, Beethoven,
Einstein, a couple of more people I am not
naming here; and these were relatively rare
phenomena.
If we go in the road now on the horizon, and
every child on this planet can have access
to universal education, because there is enough
to eat, there is enough housing so that the
child can study and is not distracted by poverty
or by Pok�mon Go, or some other idiotic
thing.
But the child can learn Classical music,�bel
canto�singing, learn geography, learn astronomy,
learn the history of the Universe, the history
of mankind, universal culture.
Love other cultures by knowing the beauty
of Chinese painting, of Indian drama, of poetry
from Persia.
Once you know these cultures, you cannot help
but say this is actually enrichment; all racism
would go, all xenophobia would go.
The world community would just be working
together for the common aims of mankind.
Developing breakthroughs like thermonuclear
fusion power in the short term; space colonization
in the short and medium term; and discover
new breakthroughs we have not even an inkling
of to ask the right question.
We are not an Earth-bound system; by no means.
The ecologists are always talking about finding
solutions within Earth-bound systems; this
is complete nonsense.
Mankind is a species which naturally can develop
the planet with infrastructure and open up
landlocked areas on Earth; but the continuation
of this infrastructure will be in close space.
The Moon being the first target; and other
objects, asteroids will be studied.
Eventually, we will have the means to take
longer space flights to Mars and other bodies
in space.
We will become a human species where the beautiful
idea of Vladimir Vernadsky that the noosphere
will take over the biosphere more and more;
what he meant by that is that human discoveries,
human scientific and technological innovation,
will be what will rule and dominates the world
more and more.
From that standpoint, the fact that China
decided to put the innovation in the center
of their efforts, is really the right step
in the right direction.
I can see, and I hope to see this in my lifetime,
that the relations among nations will completely
change; that you no longer are looking full
of mistrust and xenophobia against everything
which is foreign, but that people will become
much more educated.
There will be much more patriots and citizens
of the world; world citizens, which must not
be a contradiction with what was said by Friedrich
Schiller 200 years ago.
And that we will basically give up all those
stupid habits which prevent our creative potential
from unfolding.
People will have intelligent discussions;
they will have loving relations among themselves
by furthering the interest of the other.
So, I think we are at the verge of becoming
adult; I think right now the human race behaves
like little uneducated, spoiled two-year-olds
who kick against the knee of your colleague,
and they scream and say, "This is my toy!"
That's about the mental level of geopolitics.
I think that is not worthy of man; I think
man is meant to be a creative species, fully
loving each other.
Therefore, the�Ode to Joy�that was played
at the gala evening in Hangzhou is really
the vision of the future.
ROSS: Wonderful!
I just want to add one thing on that, which
is that you had mentioned how China had put
technology as a major factor in their outlook
on things.
And when that's coming from China, it really
means something.
China is the nation that has gone and had
a landing for the first time in decades.
It's China that in two years, plans to have
the first-ever landing on the far side of
the Moon.
And it's China which in that process, is offering
for international use, the use of a communications
relay satellite that they'll have with the
Moon; that they plan to make available to
other nations who want to do work there.
That, their fusion program; it really shows
the potential on the highest level of economy.
Your husband has pointed out for decades that
infrastructure provides a platform for meeting
the productive needs of society.
As you said, children being able to have enough
food to be able to concentrate on education;
on learning about the great cultures of the
world, of their past cultures, to be able
to contribute to it in the future.
We're not citizens of the world; we can be
citizens of the Solar System, and we've really
got a very broad potential outlook for ourselves.
On that highest level, it's driving mankind
as a species forward; which we can do through
collaboration on science.
That really lets us collaborate on the highest
possible level.
Let me ask, are there any final words from
either of you?
Do you have any concluding remarks?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Yeah, I would like people to
� I'm aware of the fact that what I'm saying
is not the mainstream opinion about China,
about all these countries.
I would ask the audience to not just dismiss,
if you disagree with what I said, but please
take the effort to look into it yourself.
Look at the speeches of Xi Jinping and the
other leaders.
Look at what China is doing.
Study Confucius, and you will find out that
there�is�indeed a completely different
philosophy; and that philosophy is much, much
closer to what the United States was when
it was founded, than most people would imagine.
Both in terms of economics, but also in terms
that the government should be there for the
common good; this is an idea which almost
has been lost in the last decades.
I think people should just not dismiss it.
Once you are convinced that what I have said
is true, help us to get the United States
onboard.
The United States needs a Silk Road.
China has a plan to have 50,000 km of fast
train system by 2020; and we have developed
an extension of the Silk Road for the United
States, also having a huge system of fast
trains connecting the East and the West Coasts,
the North and the South.
Build a couple of new cities in places in
the United States which make sense.
And there is no reason why the United States
cannot be part of this.
It's not anti-American; America should become
part of it, and you should help to do this.
ROSS: Wonderful.
Well, thank you both very much for joining
us.
Thank you to our viewers for joining us.
If you're in the New York area, definitely
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