>>> ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK TO
>>> ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK TO "VELSHI &amp; RUHLE."
"VELSHI &amp; RUHLE." HE’LL
HE’LL HEALTHCARE IS A KEY BATTLE POINT
HEALTHCARE IS A KEY BATTLE POINT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. TOTAL HEALTHCARE COSTS UNDER THE
TOTAL HEALTHCARE COSTS UNDER THE PLAN ADVOCATED BY SENATOR BERNIE
PLAN ADVOCATED BY SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS IS ESTIMATED COST OF
SANDERS IS ESTIMATED COST OF $4.5 TRILLION OVER TEN YEARS.
$4.5 TRILLION OVER TEN YEARS. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. THE ESTIMATE IS 22% HIGHER THAN
THE ESTIMATE IS 22% HIGHER THAN TOTAL COST UNDER THE CURRENT
TOTAL COST UNDER THE CURRENT SYSTEM OVER THE SAME PERIOD.
SYSTEM OVER THE SAME PERIOD. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T GET
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T GET COVERAGE RIGHT NOW.
COVERAGE RIGHT NOW. THIS WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE TO
THIS WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE TO ABOUT 28 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE
ABOUT 28 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY INSURED.
CURRENTLY INSURED. I AM TELLING YOU WE ARE
I AM TELLING YOU WE ARE CURRENTLY UNENSURED.
CURRENTLY UNENSURED. MATH IS ALWAYS HARD.
MATH IS ALWAYS HARD. HOW ARE YOU GO I THINK TO PAYING
HOW ARE YOU GO I THINK TO PAYING THIS?
THIS? JOINING ME IS SENATOR SANDERS.
JOINING ME IS SENATOR SANDERS. BIDEN’S PLAN BUILT ON OBAMACARE,
BIDEN’S PLAN BUILT ON OBAMACARE, IT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO KEEP
IT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR EMPLOYER’S INSURANCE IF
THEIR EMPLOYER’S INSURANCE IF THEY LIKE IT OR BUY INTO A
THEY LIKE IT OR BUY INTO A PUBLIC OPTION.
PUBLIC OPTION. IF THE PLAN THAT THE VICE
IF THE PLAN THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT IS SUGGESTING
PRESIDENT IS SUGGESTING CONTINUES TO INCLUDE THE
CONTINUES TO INCLUDE THE ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS OF THE
ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE IMPLEMENTED, WHY
AFFORDABLE CARE IMPLEMENTED, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT’S NOT
DO YOU THINK THAT’S NOT EFFICIENT?
EFFICIENT? >> FIRST OF ALL, I WILL BE
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WILL BE GETTING BACK TO THE FIRST POINT
GETTING BACK TO THE FIRST POINT YOU MADE A MOMENT AGO.
YOU MADE A MOMENT AGO. EVERY STUDY SHOWS MEDICARE FOR
EVERY STUDY SHOWS MEDICARE FOR ALL WILL COVER ALL OF THE PEOPLE
ALL WILL COVER ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY AT LESS COST THAN
IN OUR COUNTRY AT LESS COST THAN THE CURRENT DYSFUNCTIONAL SYSTEM
THE CURRENT DYSFUNCTIONAL SYSTEM WHICH AT THE END OF TEN YEARS
WHICH AT THE END OF TEN YEARS WILL BE SPENDING SOMETHING LIKE
WILL BE SPENDING SOMETHING LIKE $50 TRILLION.
$50 TRILLION. OUR HEALTHCARE IS EXPENSIVE.
OUR HEALTHCARE IS EXPENSIVE. THE REASON I OPPOSE WITH JOE
THE REASON I OPPOSE WITH JOE BIDEN IS AT THE END OF THE DAY
BIDEN IS AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE GOT TO DO AS A NATION OF
WE HAVE GOT TO DO AS A NATION OF WHAT EVERY ONE IS DOING IS
WHAT EVERY ONE IS DOING IS GUARANTEED HEALTHCARE TO EVERY
GUARANTEED HEALTHCARE TO EVERY MAN AND AND WOMANWOMAN AND CHILD
MAN AND AND WOMANWOMAN AND CHILD RIGHT.
RIGHT. IT IS TO MAKE BILLIONS IN
IT IS TO MAKE BILLIONS IN PROFITS FOR THE INSURANCE
PROFITS FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND DRUG COMPANIES,
COMPANIES AND DRUG COMPANIES, THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE DOING
THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE DOING TODAY.
TODAY. TODAY DESPITE THE FACT THAT 80
TODAY DESPITE THE FACT THAT 80 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE NO HEALTH
MILLION AMERICANS HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE OR UNDER INSURED.
INSURANCE OR UNDER INSURED. WE ARE SPENDING FAR, FAR MORE
WE ARE SPENDING FAR, FAR MORE PER CAPITA ON HEALTHCARE THAN
PER CAPITA ON HEALTHCARE THAN THE PEOPLE OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
THE PEOPLE OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY. TODAY WE PAY BY FAR THE HIGHEST
TODAY WE PAY BY FAR THE HIGHEST PRICES IN THE WORLD FOR
PRICES IN THE WORLD FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I AM GOING TO BE GOING FROM
I AM GOING TO BE GOING FROM DETROIT TO MICHIGAN AND ONTARIO,
DETROIT TO MICHIGAN AND ONTARIO, CANADA AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
CANADA AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE’LL BE PURCHASINGEING INSULIN
WE’LL BE PURCHASINGEING INSULIN ONE
ONE ONE-TENTH OF THE PRICE WE ARE
ONE-TENTH OF THE PRICE WE ARE PAYING IN AMERICA.
PAYING IN AMERICA. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM. >> YOU WILL NEVER GET AN
>> YOU WILL NEVER GET AN ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. HOWEVER THERE IS AS FACTORY IN
HOWEVER THERE IS AS FACTORY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES. ACCORDING TO THE KAISER FAMILY,
ACCORDING TO THE KAISER FAMILY, 49% HAVE EMPLOYER COVERAGE.
49% HAVE EMPLOYER COVERAGE. GALLUP HAS FOUND 69% OF
GALLUP HAS FOUND 69% OF AMERICANS RATED THEIR HEALTHCARE
AMERICANS RATED THEIR HEALTHCARE AS COVERAGE.
AS COVERAGE. TALK TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, MY
TALK TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, MY AUDIENCE WHO HAVE GOOD
AUDIENCE WHO HAVE GOOD INSURANCE, WHY SHOULD THEY
INSURANCE, WHY SHOULD THEY SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT THEY THING
SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT THEY THING THEY THINK IS GOOD IS GOING TO
THEY THINK IS GOOD IS GOING TO GO AWAY IN FAVOR OF HEAD CARE
GO AWAY IN FAVOR OF HEAD CARE FOR ALL.
FOR ALL. WHAT MEDICARE FOR ALL DOES IS
WHAT MEDICARE FOR ALL DOES IS PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE
PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE TO EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND CHILD
TO EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND CHILD IN EVERY COUNTRY.
IN EVERY COUNTRY. MEDICARE FOR ALL IS BETTER.
MEDICARE FOR ALL IS BETTER. THERE WILL BE NO DEDUCTIBLES AND
THERE WILL BE NO DEDUCTIBLES AND COPAYMENTS.
COPAYMENTS. THEY CAN’T AFFORD THE OUT OF
THEY CAN’T AFFORD THE OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES BECAUSE OF HIGH
POCKET EXPENSES BECAUSE OF HIGH DEDUCTIBLES.
DEDUCTIBLES. WE’LL LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
WE’LL LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. THERE WILL BE A CEILING OF WHAT
THERE WILL BE A CEILING OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR
PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. WHAT PEOPLE LIKE IS NOT THEIR
WHAT PEOPLE LIKE IS NOT THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY.
HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY. WHAT THEY LIKE ARE THEIR DOCTORS
WHAT THEY LIKE ARE THEIR DOCTORS AND NURSES AND THEIR HOSPITALS.
AND NURSES AND THEIR HOSPITALS. THE MEDICARE FOR ALL WE
THE MEDICARE FOR ALL WE GUARANTEE FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
GUARANTEE FREEDOM OF CHOICE. YOU CAN GO TO ANY DOCTOR.
YOU CAN GO TO ANY DOCTOR. >> THERE IS NO CHOOSING FROM
>> THERE IS NO CHOOSING FROM DOCTORS IN TERMS OF WHAT PROGRAM
DOCTORS IN TERMS OF WHAT PROGRAM AND INSURANCE THEY TAKE.
AND INSURANCE THEY TAKE. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> RIGHT NOW BY THE WAY, LET’S
>> RIGHT NOW BY THE WAY, LET’S BE CLEAR.
BE CLEAR. MANY PEOPLE CAN’T GO TO THE
MANY PEOPLE CAN’T GO TO THE DOCTOR THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO
DOCTOR THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT MAY
GO BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT MAY NOT BE IN THEIR INSURANCE
NOT BE IN THEIR INSURANCE NETWORK AND THEY HAVE TO PAY A
NETWORK AND THEY HAVE TO PAY A WHOLE LOT OUT OF IT.
WHOLE LOT OUT OF IT. WHAT WE’LL DO IS PROVIDE
WHAT WE’LL DO IS PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE TO
COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE TO EVERYBODY AT LOWER COST.
EVERYBODY AT LOWER COST. >> ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES YOU
>> ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT
AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT INSTITUTED SOME VERSION A LONG
INSTITUTED SOME VERSION A LONG TIME AGO, WHY AMERICA DIDN’T, WE
TIME AGO, WHY AMERICA DIDN’T, WE BUILT UP THIS SYSTEM AND HEALTH
BUILT UP THIS SYSTEM AND HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES AND WE
INSURANCE COMPANIES AND WE CREATED THIS ENTIRE THING AND
CREATED THIS ENTIRE THING AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT’LL COST A GREAT DEAL OF
THAT’LL COST A GREAT DEAL OF CORRUPTION.
CORRUPTION. KAMALA HARRIS IS CALLING FOR A
KAMALA HARRIS IS CALLING FOR A TRANSITION PERIOD SAYING WE
TRANSITION PERIOD SAYING WE CAN’T CHANGE IT OVER NIGHT.
CAN’T CHANGE IT OVER NIGHT. TELL ME WHAT A TRANSITION LOOKS
TELL ME WHAT A TRANSITION LOOKS LIKE.
LIKE. >> KAMALA HARRIS IS ON BOARD OF
>> KAMALA HARRIS IS ON BOARD OF MY LEGISLATION.
MY LEGISLATION. THAT LEGISLATION CALLS FOR A
THAT LEGISLATION CALLS FOR A FOUR-YEAR TRANSITION.
FOUR-YEAR TRANSITION. FIRST YEAR RIGHT NOW, YOU GOT TO
FIRST YEAR RIGHT NOW, YOU GOT TO BE 65 OR OLDER TO GET INTO
BE 65 OR OLDER TO GET INTO MEDICARE.
MEDICARE. MEDICARE BY THE WAY AS YOU KNOW,
MEDICARE BY THE WAY AS YOU KNOW, ALI, IS THE MOST POPULAR HEALTH
ALI, IS THE MOST POPULAR HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM IN THE
INSURANCE PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. WHAT WE’LL DO IS LOWER THAT
WHAT WE’LL DO IS LOWER THAT ELIGIBILITY AGE FROM 65 TO 55.
ELIGIBILITY AGE FROM 65 TO 55. BY THE WAY, WE’LL EXPAND
BY THE WAY, WE’LL EXPAND BENEFITS FOR SENIORS BY
BENEFITS FOR SENIORS BY INCLUDING DENTAL CARE AND
INCLUDING DENTAL CARE AND HEARING AIDS AND EYE GLASSES.
HEARING AIDS AND EYE GLASSES. NEXT YEAR WE TAKE IT TO 45 AND
NEXT YEAR WE TAKE IT TO 45 AND 35 AND THE FOURTH YEAR, ALL
35 AND THE FOURTH YEAR, ALL AMERICANS ARE COVERED BY A
AMERICANS ARE COVERED BY A COMPREHENSIVE MEDICARE PROGRAM.
COMPREHENSIVE MEDICARE PROGRAM. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT AND I
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT AND I WANT YOU TO GO CLOSE HERE.
WANT YOU TO GO CLOSE HERE. MY VIEWERS ARE OLDER.
MY VIEWERS ARE OLDER. THE MUSICIAN CARDI B.
THE MUSICIAN CARDI B. CARDI
CARDI CARDI B. IS ONE O F THE MOST 25
CARDI B. IS ONE O F THE MOST 25 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE ONLINE.
MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE ONLINE. SHE HAS BEEN A LONG TIME
SHE HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SUPPORTER OF YOURS IN 2006.
SUPPORTER OF YOURS IN 2006. SHE SAID YESTERDAY, SHE TWEETED
SHE SAID YESTERDAY, SHE TWEETED THIS OUT ABOUT VOTERS LETTING
THIS OUT ABOUT VOTERS LETTING YOU DONE IN 2016.
YOU DONE IN 2016. WHAT’S YOUR MESSAGE?
WHAT’S YOUR MESSAGE? >> I THANK YOU FOR HER SUPPORT.
>> I THANK YOU FOR HER SUPPORT. I SPOKE TO HER A FEW WEEKS AGO,
I SPOKE TO HER A FEW WEEKS AGO, SHE’S VERY SHARP AND UNDERSTAND
SHE’S VERY SHARP AND UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT POLITICS AND HISTORY
A LOT ABOUT POLITICS AND HISTORY AND I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE TO
AND I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE HER SUPPORT.
HAVE HER SUPPORT. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME POLLING THAT COMES OUT.
POLLING THAT COMES OUT. WE GOT ANOTHER POLL THAT I THINK
WE GOT ANOTHER POLL THAT I THINK WE GOT EARLY TODAY.
WE GOT EARLY TODAY. YOU ARE SHOWING AS COMING IN
YOU ARE SHOWING AS COMING IN SECOND PLACE IN A COUPLE OF
SECOND PLACE IN A COUPLE OF THESE POLLS, THIS IS MORNING
THESE POLLS, THIS IS MORNING CONSULT POLL.
CONSULT POLL. YOU ARE AT 19% AND ELIZABETH
YOU ARE AT 19% AND ELIZABETH WARREN IS AT 4%.
WARREN IS AT 4%. TALK TO ME ABOUT POLLING AND HOW
TALK TO ME ABOUT POLLING AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?
DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? >> IT IS HARD TO POLL NOWADAYS
>> IT IS HARD TO POLL NOWADAYS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T ANSWER THEIR TELEPHONE.
ANSWER THEIR TELEPHONE. WE ARE SIX AND A HALF MONTHS
WE ARE SIX AND A HALF MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
BEFORE THE ELECTION. I THINK IT IS PROBABLY FAIR TO
I THINK IT IS PROBABLY FAIR TO SAY THAT JOE BIDEN, IF THE
SAY THAT JOE BIDEN, IF THE ELECTION PRIMARY WERE HELD
ELECTION PRIMARY WERE HELD TODAY, I WOULD PROBABLY WIN.
TODAY, I WOULD PROBABLY WIN. PEOPLE KNOW HIM AND THEY LIKE
PEOPLE KNOW HIM AND THEY LIKE HIM.
HIM. I THINK WE HAVE THE GRASS ROOT
I THINK WE HAVE THE GRASS ROOT SUPPORT IN THIS COUNTRY.
SUPPORT IN THIS COUNTRY. ONE OF THE POINTS THAT HAS NOT
ONE OF THE POINTS THAT HAS NOT BEEN MADE AS CLEARLY AS IT
BEEN MADE AS CLEARLY AS IT SHOULD IS THAT WE HAVE WELL OVER
SHOULD IS THAT WE HAVE WELL OVER A MILLION VOLUNTEERS IN THIS
A MILLION VOLUNTEERS IN THIS COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. WE HAVE GRASS ROOTS SUPPORT IN
WE HAVE GRASS ROOTS SUPPORT IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH
IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA.
CAROLINA AND NEVADA. AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT
AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT PRIMARIES ARE ABOUT OR CAUCUS
PRIMARIES ARE ABOUT OR CAUCUS ARE ABOUT ARE BRINGING OUT YOUR
ARE ABOUT ARE BRINGING OUT YOUR PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT STAFF AND
WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT STAFF AND WE ARE INVESTING IN THAT STAFF
WE ARE INVESTING IN THAT STAFF AND ON ELECTION DAY, WE ARE
AND ON ELECTION DAY, WE ARE GOING TO WIN.
GOING TO WIN. WE ARE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE OUR
WE ARE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE OUR AGENDA SPEAKS TO THE NEED OF THE
AGENDA SPEAKS TO THE NEED OF THE WORKING CLASS OF THIS COUNTRY.
WORKING CLASS OF THIS COUNTRY. FRANKLY, PEOPLE ARE SICK AND
FRANKLY, PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE WEALTHY BECOMING
TIRED OF THE WEALTHY BECOMING MUCH RICHER AND CORPORATE
MUCH RICHER AND CORPORATE AMERICA MAKING HUGE PROFITS AND
AMERICA MAKING HUGE PROFITS AND NOT JUST THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY
NOT JUST THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY OR THE DRUG COMPANIES.
OR THE DRUG COMPANIES. IT IS THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.
IT IS THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY. IT IS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD AND
