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- Hey, guys, standing
right behind us right now
is Travis Walton, who has
one of the most famous cases
of alien abduction pretty
much in the history
of the United States, I would say, right?
- Yeah, actually, it's probably
the most famous case in the world.
A lot of you are probably
familiar with the movie
Fire in the Sky, which
basically retells that story.
Of course, Travis is
telling us that it wasn't
100% accurate, obviously, with Hollywood.
- Yeah, of course.
- What is?
But yeah, we're gonna actually
get in there and ask him
a few questions right now
and see what he has to say.
- So real quick, though,
before we do that,
I want to say one thing.
So what I found the most
interesting of his talk was when
he actually came to the conclusion
recently that he doesn't
think this was an actual abduction.
He actually believes that
he was hit by something
accidentally from the craft,
which almost killed him,
and then he was brought aboard,
and he woke up almost like
in the middle of their
operation, and through that -
- Trying to like revive him or something.
Cause like, whatever hit
him was like near life,
like it nearly killed him.
And also, one of the things
that I didn't realize
is that there was a humanoid
in the room that had come
to help him or something like that.
It wasn't just the gray aliens.
- Basically, it was one of
the Nordics that came to him
to help him, so he actually
got up and then was like,
"Hey, where am I?
"What's going on?" you know,
so they actually put him
back under and then he didn't
realize five days passed,
and then that's the rest of the story.
- Yeah, so Travis, I guess,
was a bit of a bad ass,
so when the gray aliens
were coming at him,
he was just fighting 'em!
And they didn't know what
to do, so they brought in
this guy who looked
human, and that was how...
- That's how they helped
him, yeah, exactly.
So, anyway...
- Let's go ask him some questions now.
- Hi, Travis, we just
listened to your talk,
and actually, it's really
interesting because you're
one of the first people that
I really got indoctrinated
into the UFO story lines
when I was a little kid,
'cause I remember
hearing about your story,
and it's interesting, I
just always believed it.
I remember seeing Fire in
the Sky movie, and it really
moved me, but I think
your speech you just gave,
the most fascinating thing
to me was the fact that you
weren't actually abducted,
that you don't think you were.
Can you talk a little bit about that?
- Well, you know, Steve,
he thinks I was abducted.
He thinks the whole thing
happened because they wanted me
for some reason, but I don't agree.
I think I did something
that was unexpected,
got myself injured, and
then the only way they were
gonna prevent, you know,
galactic roadkill, was to take me
aboard and put me back together,
and probably had technology
to that end that humans
wouldn't have anyway.
- Related to the internet
and now and technology
and everything else, how
has it been from when this
first happened and how
people looked at you and all
the years going through up
until today and how you're
very respected in this
whole community now.
- Well, you know, it does
make me feel a lot better
that I feel like I am
making some progress.
My whole mission, so to
speak, in being out here
to try to educate people
to make them realize
basically some really simple
things like this is real!
These things do happen!
That we're not alone in the
universe, and that shouldn't be
shock and awe and "Oh,
gee whiz," you know?
A lot of people think that's
what this is all about,
this is, you know, some
lurid sci fi kind of a thing,
and Hollywood is guilty
of sort of adding to that.
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I don't think that our
awareness of their presence
is an accident.
I think that with their level
of technology that they're
perfectly capable of doing
everything that they're doing here
and remain completely undetected.
There could even be some
walking around here today.
Yeah, it's not like they
slap their forehead, and go,
"Dang, goofed up again, and
another human spotted me, dang!"
ya know, "I gotta be more
careful in the future!"
It's not like that, ya know?
I really think that
they could be invisible
if they wanted to be, and on
the contrary, the other thing
the debunkers say, "Well, if
there was anything to this,
"they would just land
on the White House lawn
"and say 'Here we are,
Earthlings,' ya know?"
They're not gonna come
and hand us technology,
not because we don't, quote, deserve it,
but for our own good!
The Non-interference
Directive, as it's been called
in science fiction, is probably a reality,
and it is for our own
good, and I think, perhaps,
a good deal of the government's
secrecy is akin to that, too
that they're doing
it for our own good.
- Yeah, I see, do you regret anything
that happened with that?
- I regret ever getting
out of that truck, ya know?
I wish it'd never happened, yeah.
(laughs)
- Do you ever feel like
you might have been chosen,
in a way?
- Well, that's Steve's
theory, but I always preferred
not to think like that, ya know?
I tried to picture the
scenario as being totally
random accident, brought it on myself,
did something unexpected.
- What motivates you to
keep doing what you're doing
and who you are?
- Well, I have to admit, I
kind of pulled back from it,
and stayed away from it
for a number of years,
but what motivates me
is the goal of promoting understanding
promoting the acceptance
that we're not alone in the universe.
I think that's important.
A lot of what comes with that
is a kind of understanding
that, I think, will be unifying to humans.
- That's great, thank you Travis.
I think Rob, my cohost right
here, he just wanted to ask
one quick question.
- Hey, Travis, I'm Rob, by the way.
- Hi, Rob.
- So, my question to you
is more about, you know,
it's been years since
that happened, it's 2018,
how do you feel like things
have advanced since then,
and do you feel like it's
good for people to have
this disclosure where people
actually start to accept
that there's alien life
and do you think we're closer to that right now?
- Yes, I think we are approaching that.
It's been my goal to help achieve that.
You know, like these navy
pilots coming forward
with that gun camera footage.
All every bit of that,
incrementally is nudging people
in the direction of
acknowledging that this is real,
and I think that's helpful
to everyone in the long run.
- What would you say
to someone who's still
a skeptic about aliens existing?
- Well, I think it's
preposterous for anyone to think,
like I said in my talk, just
in light on the enormity
of how big the universe
is and how old it is,
you know, planets that literally
are millions and billions
of years more advanced than us.
The idea that humanity
could be this unique thing,
this one little speck
of life in all of the,
if you understood just
how vast it is, to me,
that's what's preposterous,
that's what's mind-boggling,
that people can think that
we're all there is, ya know?
- I guess my final question
is since that happened,
have you had any other encounters at all,
or was that the only one?
Have you felt anything, have
you experienced anything else?
- I have experienced other
things, I try to stick to
just the things that I can
document, and there's one
in particular I can't document.
In 2014, February 19th,
I left a meeting in
MUFON Burbank, and we
encountered one of these
giant black triangles,
which I wouldn't have told anybody about
except that there are 15 other people,
independently reported it, too.
- Goodness, that's crazy,
that's probably the biggest
event since what happened in...
- I was a little bit
skeptical about the size
that people were estimating,
everybody saying how huge they are
and I was, "Oh,
come on, how could something
"that big actually stay up there?"
but they are that big, blew
my mind how big it was.
This thing was, might
have been 1/8th of a mile,
quarter mile across!
He was with me, my girlfriend
was with me, and then we
found out, like 15
other people reported it
by the next morning,
independently, to a website
that records these things, you know?
Now, I don't know for
sure that that's an alien,
it could be some secret military
thing, but if it is ours,
it's super, super futuristic, you know?
It could so fly so big,
something that massive,
could stop that fast,
why it stopped right over the top of me
I think is significant
because it's a gigantic
city and there's all kinds of people
stop right over the
top of me, and then the front
of the triangle turns to the right,
and then shoots off in that direction.
That's pretty amazing.
- Well, Travis, thank you
very much for your time,
and thanks for everything you do.
- Well, thank you, and keep
up the good work yourself.
- Thank you very much!
