but there are other things happening in
the world one of them it which
I find is particularly interesting is
that while
churches can't discriminate a
Catholic Church for example can say no
you mean when I can marry you here if
you're not Catholic ur
or even if you are but you were divorced
we're not gonna marry a
but businesses cannot discriminate
based on certain criteria they can't
discriminate based on color they can't
discriminate based on religion they
can't discriminate based on
gender identity on on whether somebody
is gay or not
basically and so recently there was
a photography shop that refused to do I
love
the I shoot for gay marriage ands
they were sued in they lost the lawsuit
because say if you're in business you've
got a search people
and the chaplan
and doctor Gordon James chaps Clingan
Schmidt
former navy chaplain defender religious
liberty
and the fellow who runs the pray in
Jesus
name dot or go website things that he
has come up with
a way a around with that
commercial injunction that you not
discriminate do I have that right doctor
well thank you so much time together
bless you and God bless you yours today
in Jesus Name I'm happy to join UPS guy
I am familiar with the New Mexico
Supreme Court ruling against delayed and
Jonathan
head went into Christian photographers
that were
fined and penalized for declining to
participate in a homosexual wedding
ceremony which
was against their religion they have no
problem taking photographs
well what they had a problem while was
participating
yen the gay wedding ceremony which was
counter opposite to what the Bible
teaches
that that is the same they got defines
marriage in Jesus defines marriage in
1890
is only tell between one man and one
woman and because they had a religious
viewpoints and they didn't want to send
personally
they obey God and they disobeyed man
infer that they were fine and published
by the New Mexico Supreme Court
yeah nine and and and and we're all
familiar with this I mean those of us
old enough to remember remember
I you know down in the south the people
operating lunch counter saying that they
should not have to serve
people of color because that's the mark
of cain and after all the Bible tells
you that
you're supposed to drive people who know
the the aide to Senate said came out
from your Mets to
so black people are not welcome at this
lunch counter and the government came in
and said no you can't discriminate based
on that is a
all but this is my religion in fact the
Mormons officially said this is my
religion right up until 1987
and the government said no you can't do
that so
you think you figured out a way around
this do I have this right that you're
going to print some nasty words in the
back at the pictures that you're gonna
take
well let me just respond to what you
just said asexual
you'd enjoy local Christians who get
covered in slavery
in the eighteen hundreds here in America
Charles Finney let that movie
Abraham Lincoln was a republican of
course Martin Luther King was a
republican
and the people who while he was not for
the record
because it is a king was not a
republican is different then raced I
campaign for alan keyes for president
I support nondiscrimination in cases
race
there's no reason not even a Christian
reason the Bible that I can find
not to discriminate against a person's
race but God Himself discriminates
against
sexual immorality which is a moral
choice yeah I'm not gonna
you know for if respectfully i I don't
think either one of us are gonna get
anywhere
debating that right now iight what I
wanted to talk about
and yeah I think you want to talk about
is that you think that you can get
around the legal injunction against
discrimination
against gays by printing were the UHV
death
or words to that effect on the back love
the pictures
of people in a gay marriage that that
this is what photographer should do with
my correctly
understanding your position you to
clarify my position
there's a my position there's actually
two ways
to get around this problem I think the
first way is to enforce
the Constitution the first remember the
Constitution forbids
the establishment of religion or the no
I i got but that's not gonna happen so
to the pictures
right but I think this supreme court in
New Mexico is now
establishing a theocracy you must be
opposed to that right
establishing homosexuality is the source
what do you want to print on the back at
the pictures
well I think the second way if they
refuse to won't participate and
enforce the first amendment and they
refused to strike down that gate
shi'ah percy in New Mexico the second
way is for the Christians to you
go along with the law say okay we will
take your photographs will go to the gay
weddings we may even
as ordered by the law will participate
in the gay weddings by taking good
photographs
love you the the homosexual couple yen's
to exercise our freedom of the press on
the back of our business curves
or on the back of the photographs
themselves will simply prints
the Bible verse from Romans chapter 1
verse 32
that they do commit such acts are worthy
of death
solana per worthy of death in the back
at the pictures how would this be
different
from somebody who hates
I jus for example or black people
on you know who have the or Christians
for that matter
from to hang a sign in the front of
their restaurant that says
a you know bergman nay former Navy
chaplains are worthy of death
underneath in smaller type is is all
welcome here for lunch
well it's different because race and
religion
are not to be oil discriminated against
the Bible doesn't understand things the
sexual immorality is very clearly
prohibited as the same in the Bible
in its a human choices we make to
contract with the devil we don't get the
people
we hate the devil there's a difference
so
while the double rules and we want to
love them
by helping them get free updates okay so
you know yeah I get it that this is this
is all about religion for UN and
obviously very selectively I'm assuming
that you're not suggesting that people
who are wearing clothing made on a two
different kinds of fabric should not be
you know should that their picture
should be marked where the eff death
where people who eat shellfish
know your confused and they say oh well
we'll get a kiss talks about shellfish
in us
it does its way Terry Wallace but you've
never read the Bible in Acts chapter 15
I actually have read the Bible from
cover to cover from Genesis to her to
Revelation four times
is because that clearly says christians
in the New Testament
are not bound by the Old Testament laws
except the ones against
sexual morality so six-year-old there is
no prohibition against homosexuality in
the New Testament
well that's foolishness return first for
Corinthians six inverse night it says
well homosexuality and homosexuals will
not inherit the kingdom of God does not
after 15 does not morality is your you
are
you are interpreting you are not quoting
know including the NTSB version A for
strength in six in personal and it says
homosexuality you need to read it
version any St which is the most
accurately academic version trust by
stones today
and also what repeatedly jesus okay so
we're
so it let's let's even say that you're
right and i'm asserting
categorically that you're not but let's
say that you're right
because %uh a Bronze Age religion
because i've a two thousand-year-old
religion were supposed to trash our
brothers and sisters who are different
from us
and we're supposed to but we're the
above death on the back at their
pictures
that seems to me not only despicable but
something that Jesus would find
despicable
how can you call yourself a Christian
and suggest
used after 17th
mad sin ger yeah well you I was going to
give you the last word go forth
gonna stay safe using said if anyone
offends a child we should own also hung
around his neck could be thrown in the
depths of the sea so Jesus against child
molesters
and I think Jesus would support talking
about Charles trips what's going on
if you want to get married okay
it doctor punishment growth and thank
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