SAY IT ENOUGH, NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO STOP SOCIAL DISTANCING.
TIME TO STOP SOCIAL DISTANCING. SAVANNAH?
SAVANNAH? >> ALL RIGHT, GABE, THANK YOU
>> ALL RIGHT, GABE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY MUCH. >>> AND JOINING US NOW IS DR.
>>> AND JOINING US NOW IS DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, THE FACE OF THE
ANTHONY FAUCI, THE FACE OF THE U.S. RESPONSE TO THE VIRUS.
U.S. RESPONSE TO THE VIRUS. HE’S A LONG TIME DIRECTOR OF THE
HE’S A LONG TIME DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES.
AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES. DR. FAUCI, GOOD MORNING, GOOD TO
DR. FAUCI, GOOD MORNING, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SIR.
SEE YOU AGAIN, SIR. >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. >> OVER THE WEEKEND ON ONE OF
>> OVER THE WEEKEND ON ONE OF THE SUNDAY SHOWS YOU WERE VERY
THE SUNDAY SHOWS YOU WERE VERY DIRECT, YOU SAID WE ARE STILL
DIRECT, YOU SAID WE ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO GET THIS VIRUS
STRUGGLING TO GET THIS VIRUS UNDER CONTROL.
UNDER CONTROL. IS THAT STILL THE CASE THIS
IS THAT STILL THE CASE THIS MORNING?
MORNING? >> YES, IT IS, I WOULD SAY
>> YES, IT IS, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE
BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DEATHS, THE NUMBER OF DEATHS AND
DEATHS, THE NUMBER OF DEATHS AND THE CASES THAT WE’RE SEEING
THE CASES THAT WE’RE SEEING RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY VALIDATING
RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY VALIDATING WHAT WE SAID, THAT THIS IS GOING
WHAT WE SAID, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY BAD WEEK ON THE ONE
TO BE A VERY BAD WEEK ON THE ONE HAND.
HAND. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND AS YOU CAN
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME GLIMMERS OF
SEE THERE ARE SOME GLIMMERS OF HOPE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LOOK
HOPE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN NEW YORK
AT THE SITUATION IN NEW YORK WHERE THE NUMBER OF
WHERE THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS, REQUIREMENTS
HOSPITALIZATIONS, REQUIREMENTS FOR INTENSIVE CARE OVER THE LAST
FOR INTENSIVE CARE OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS HAVE STABILIZED AND
FEW DAYS HAVE STABILIZED AND STARTING TO COME DOWN SO EVEN
STARTING TO COME DOWN SO EVEN THOUGH WE’RE SEEING THAT
THOUGH WE’RE SEEING THAT INCREASE IN DEATHS, AS WE’VE
INCREASE IN DEATHS, AS WE’VE SEEN UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE
SEEN UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE YESTERDAY, WAS THE WORST DAY FOR
YESTERDAY, WAS THE WORST DAY FOR DEATHS THAT WE’VE SEEN THUS FAR.
DEATHS THAT WE’VE SEEN THUS FAR. BUT WHAT FEEDS THAT IS THE
BUT WHAT FEEDS THAT IS THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES.
NUMBER OF NEW CASES. AND I BELIEVE, AND MANY DO, THAT
AND I BELIEVE, AND MANY DO, THAT THE MITIGATION, THE PHYSICAL
THE MITIGATION, THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION THAT WE’VE INITIATED,
SEPARATION THAT WE’VE INITIATED, IS STARTING TO HAVE A REAL
IS STARTING TO HAVE A REAL EFFECT NOW.
EFFECT NOW. SO WE ARE HOPING, WITH CAUTIOUS
SO WE ARE HOPING, WITH CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM, THAT AT THE SAME TIME
OPTIMISM, THAT AT THE SAME TIME WE’RE IN FOR A BAD WEEK, WE’RE
WE’RE IN FOR A BAD WEEK, WE’RE GOING TO START TO SEE A
GOING TO START TO SEE A TURNAROUND.
TURNAROUND. SO WE NEED TO JUST HOPE THAT
SO WE NEED TO JUST HOPE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
THAT HAPPENS. I THINK IT WILL.
I THINK IT WILL. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. IS THAT THE FLATTENING OF THE
IS THAT THE FLATTENING OF THE CURVE THAT EVERYBODY’S SO
CURVE THAT EVERYBODY’S SO FAMOUSLY TALKING ABOUT IN NEW
FAMOUSLY TALKING ABOUT IN NEW YORK, ARE WE SEEING THE
YORK, ARE WE SEEING THE FLATTENING OF THE CURVE IN THIS
FLATTENING OF THE CURVE IN THIS FIRST INITIAL HOT SPOT?
FIRST INITIAL HOT SPOT? >> YOU KNOW, I DON’T WANT TO
>> YOU KNOW, I DON’T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN ON THAT, SAVANNAH,
JUMP THE GUN ON THAT, SAVANNAH, BUT I THINK THAT IS THE CASE.
BUT I THINK THAT IS THE CASE. YOU WANT TO SEE A STEADY,
YOU WANT TO SEE A STEADY, SEVERAL DAY PROGRAM AND PROFILE
SEVERAL DAY PROGRAM AND PROFILE LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT’S WHAT’S GOING ON.
I THINK THAT’S WHAT’S GOING ON. I’M ALWAYS VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT
I’M ALWAYS VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT JUMPING THE GUN AND SAYING,
JUMPING THE GUN AND SAYING, WELL, WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER.
WELL, WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER. BUT I THINK WE ARE REALLY
BUT I THINK WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING OF
LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE VERY
THAT, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE VERY ENCOURAGING.
ENCOURAGING. WE NEED THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED THAT RIGHT NOW. >> THE INITIAL PROJECTIONS,
>> THE INITIAL PROJECTIONS, WHICH TOOK A LOT OF PEOPLE’S
WHICH TOOK A LOT OF PEOPLE’S BREATH AWAY, WAS POTENTIALLY 100
BREATH AWAY, WAS POTENTIALLY 100 TO 240,000 DEATHS IN THIS
TO 240,000 DEATHS IN THIS COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. NOW WE HAVE DATA, NOT JUST
NOW WE HAVE DATA, NOT JUST MODELS, BUT ACTUAL DATA TO PLUG
MODELS, BUT ACTUAL DATA TO PLUG IN AND ASSESS.
IN AND ASSESS. DO YOU THINK THE NUMBER OF
DO YOU THINK THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES IN THIS COUNTRY WILL
FATALITIES IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE
BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE 100,000 TO 240,000 FIRST
100,000 TO 240,000 FIRST PROJECTED?
PROJECTED? >> I DO.
>> I DO. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MITIGATION, I THINK THE AMERICAN
MITIGATION, I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAVE DONE A REALLY
PUBLIC HAVE DONE A REALLY TERRIFIC JOB OF JUST BUCKLING
TERRIFIC JOB OF JUST BUCKLING DOWN AND DOING THOSE PHYSICAL
DOWN AND DOING THOSE PHYSICAL SEPARATION AND ADHERING TO THOSE
SEPARATION AND ADHERING TO THOSE GUIDELINES.
GUIDELINES. AS I’VE TOLD YOU ON THE SHOW,
AS I’VE TOLD YOU ON THE SHOW, MODELS ARE REALLY ONLY AS GOOD
MODELS ARE REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU PUT
AS THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU PUT INTO THE MODEL.
INTO THE MODEL. BUT WHEN YOU START TO SEE REAL
BUT WHEN YOU START TO SEE REAL DATA YOU CAN MODIFY THAT MODEL
DATA YOU CAN MODIFY THAT MODEL AND THE REAL DATA ARE TELLING US
AND THE REAL DATA ARE TELLING US THAT IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT
THAT IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT WE’RE HAVING A DEFINITE POSITIVE
WE’RE HAVING A DEFINITE POSITIVE EFFECT BY THIS MITIGATION THINGS
EFFECT BY THIS MITIGATION THINGS THAT WE’RE DOING, THIS PHYSICAL
THAT WE’RE DOING, THIS PHYSICAL SEPARATION.
SEPARATION. SO I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO SEE
SO I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO SEE A DOWN TURN IN THAT, AND IT
A DOWN TURN IN THAT, AND IT LOOKS MORE LIKE THE 60,000 THAN
LOOKS MORE LIKE THE 60,000 THAN THE 100,000 TO 200,000.
THE 100,000 TO 200,000. BUT HAVING SAID THAT WE BETTER
BUT HAVING SAID THAT WE BETTER BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON’T SAY,
BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON’T SAY, OKAY, WE’RE DOING SO WELL WE
OKAY, WE’RE DOING SO WELL WE COULD PULL BACK.
COULD PULL BACK. WE STILL HAVE TO PUT OUR FOOT ON
WE STILL HAVE TO PUT OUR FOOT ON THE ACCELERATOR WHEN IT COMES TO
THE ACCELERATOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE MITIGATION AND THE PHYSICAL
THE MITIGATION AND THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION.
SEPARATION. >> YOU WEIGHED IN ON A THEORY
>> YOU WEIGHED IN ON A THEORY THAT’S BEEN FLOATING AROUND THAT
THAT’S BEEN FLOATING AROUND THAT PERHAPS THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES
PERHAPS THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES RELATED TO COVID-19 IS BEING
RELATED TO COVID-19 IS BEING INFLATED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
INFLATED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DYING OF OTHER THINGS.
ACTUALLY DYING OF OTHER THINGS. WHAT’S YOUR READ ON THAT THEORY?
WHAT’S YOUR READ ON THAT THEORY? >> YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH, THERE IS
>> YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE THAT
ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE THAT THAT’S THE CASE AT ALL.
THAT’S THE CASE AT ALL. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT FALLS UNDER
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF SOMETHING THAT’S
THE CATEGORY OF SOMETHING THAT’S VERY UNFORTUNATE, THESE
VERY UNFORTUNATE, THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT WE HEAR
CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT.
ABOUT. EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CRISIS OF
EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CRISIS OF ANY SORT THERE’S ALWAYS THIS
ANY SORT THERE’S ALWAYS THIS POPPING UP OF CONSPIRACY
POPPING UP OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
THEORIES. I THINK THE DEATHS THAT WE’RE
I THINK THE DEATHS THAT WE’RE SEEING ARE CORONAVIRUS DEATHS
SEEING ARE CORONAVIRUS DEATHS AND THE OTHER DEATHS ARE NOT
AND THE OTHER DEATHS ARE NOT BEING COUNTED AS CORONAVIRUS
BEING COUNTED AS CORONAVIRUS DEATHS.
DEATHS. >> ON THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, DO
>> ON THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, DO YOU THINK THERE’S A POTENTIAL
YOU THINK THERE’S A POTENTIAL THAT WE’RE UNDERCOUNTING
THAT WE’RE UNDERCOUNTING CORONAVIRUS DEATHS?
CORONAVIRUS DEATHS? BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE’VE SEEN
BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE’VE SEEN IN NEW YORK SOME PEOPLE ARE
IN NEW YORK SOME PEOPLE ARE DYING AT HOME, AND THERE HAS
DYING AT HOME, AND THERE HAS BEEN A PERSISTENT LACK OF
BEEN A PERSISTENT LACK OF TESTING.
TESTING. >> THAT’S A GOOD POINT.
>> THAT’S A GOOD POINT. I THINK THERE’S MORE OF A CHANCE
I THINK THERE’S MORE OF A CHANCE OF MISSING SOME THAT ARE REALLY
OF MISSING SOME THAT ARE REALLY CORONAVIRUS DEATHS THAT ARE NOT
CORONAVIRUS DEATHS THAT ARE NOT BEING COUNTED BUT I DON’T THINK
BEING COUNTED BUT I DON’T THINK THAT NUMBE IS SIGNIFICANT
THAT NUMBE IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO REALLY SUBSTANTIALLY
ENOUGH TO REALLY SUBSTANTIALLY MODIFY THE TRENDS THAT WE’RE
MODIFY THE TRENDS THAT WE’RE SEEING AT ALL.
SEEING AT ALL. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. LET’S TALK ABOUT AN ANTIBODY
LET’S TALK ABOUT AN ANTIBODY TEST.
TEST. SO I’M NOT THE DOCTOR, YOU ARE.
SO I’M NOT THE DOCTOR, YOU ARE. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THIS
BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THIS WOULD BE A BLOOD TEST THAT WOULD
WOULD BE A BLOOD TEST THAT WOULD TELL PEOPLE IF THEY’VE EVER HAD
TELL PEOPLE IF THEY’VE EVER HAD CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. IMPORTANT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE
IMPORTANT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SHOWING NO SYMPTOMS AT ALL,
ARE SHOWING NO SYMPTOMS AT ALL, AND MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY
AND MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAVE IT.
HAVE IT. HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO HAVING THAT
HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO HAVING THAT BLOOD TEST, THAT ANTIBODY TEST?
BLOOD TEST, THAT ANTIBODY TEST? ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE’LL BE
ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE’LL BE ABLE TO TEST MASSIVELY, IN A
ABLE TO TEST MASSIVELY, IN A WIDESPREAD FASHION, SO THAT
WIDESPREAD FASHION, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RETURN TO SOCIETY?
PEOPLE CAN RETURN TO SOCIETY? >> GOOD QUESTIONS, SAVANNAH.
>> GOOD QUESTIONS, SAVANNAH. YES, THE ANTIBODY TESTS ARE
YES, THE ANTIBODY TESTS ARE DEVELOPED.
DEVELOPED. THERE ARE SEVERAL OUT THERE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OUT THERE. SOME ARE VALIDATED TO SHOW THAT
SOME ARE VALIDATED TO SHOW THAT THEY’RE CONSISTENT AND OTHERS
THEY’RE CONSISTENT AND OTHERS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING VALIDATED.
VALIDATED. WE ARE TOLD BY THE PEOPLE, THE
WE ARE TOLD BY THE PEOPLE, THE COMPANIES THAT MAKE THEM, THAT
COMPANIES THAT MAKE THEM, THAT VERY SOON, WHEN THEY SAY SOON,
VERY SOON, WHEN THEY SAY SOON, THEY’RE TALKING DAYS TO WEEKS,
THEY’RE TALKING DAYS TO WEEKS, THAT WE’D BE ABLE TO HAVE A
THAT WE’D BE ABLE TO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE TESTS
LARGE NUMBER OF THESE TESTS AVAILABLE.
AVAILABLE. AND YOU’RE RIGHT, WHAT THEY DO,
AND YOU’RE RIGHT, WHAT THEY DO, THEY DON’T TELL YOU WHETHER YOU
THEY DON’T TELL YOU WHETHER YOU ARE INFECTED.
ARE INFECTED. THEY TELL YOU WHETHER YOU HAVE
THEY TELL YOU WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN INFECTED.
BEEN INFECTED. AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS
AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY TELLS YOU WHAT THE PENETRANCE OF
TELLS YOU WHAT THE PENETRANCE OF IN FECTIONS IN SOCIETY.
IN FECTIONS IN SOCIETY. THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT WERE
THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT WERE INFECTED, ASYMPTOMATIC AND
INFECTED, ASYMPTOMATIC AND DIDN’T KNOW IT.
DIDN’T KNOW IT. PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN ANTIBODY
PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN ANTIBODY SENSITIVITY AND YET DID NOT GET
SENSITIVITY AND YET DID NOT GET SICK.
SICK. IT’S LIKELY, WE NEED TO PROVE
IT’S LIKELY, WE NEED TO PROVE IT, THAT ONCE YOU’VE BEEN
IT, THAT ONCE YOU’VE BEEN INFECTED AND YOU HAVE AN
INFECTED AND YOU HAVE AN ANTIBODY PROFILE YOU ARE VERY
ANTIBODY PROFILE YOU ARE VERY LIKELY PROTECTED AGAINST
LIKELY PROTECTED AGAINST SUBSEQUENT CHALLENGE TO THE SAME
SUBSEQUENT CHALLENGE TO THE SAME VIRUS.
VIRUS. YOU MAY HAVE A COHORT OF PEOPLE
YOU MAY HAVE A COHORT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY PROTECTED WHO
WHO ARE ACTUALLY PROTECTED WHO HAVE MORE OF A CHANCE TO HAVE
HAVE MORE OF A CHANCE TO HAVE GETTING BACK TO THE NORMALITY OF
GETTING BACK TO THE NORMALITY OF SOCIETY.
SOCIETY. AND THEY WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEY WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT. IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT
IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT REGARDING HEALTH CARE WORKERS
REGARDING HEALTH CARE WORKERS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE.
VULNERABLE. AND IF THEY’RE PROTECTED THEY
AND IF THEY’RE PROTECTED THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB MUCH BETTER.
CAN DO THEIR JOB MUCH BETTER. >> DO YOU ENVISION SOME SCENARIO
>> DO YOU ENVISION SOME SCENARIO IN WHICH YOU ATTEMPT TO HAVE
IN WHICH YOU ATTEMPT TO HAVE EVERY AMERICAN TAKE THIS
EVERY AMERICAN TAKE THIS ANTIBODY TEST AND ON THAT BASIS
ANTIBODY TEST AND ON THAT BASIS THEY’RE PERMITTED OR NOT
THEY’RE PERMITTED OR NOT PERMITTED TO GO BACK INTO
PERMITTED TO GO BACK INTO SOCIETY?
SOCIETY? >> YOU KNOW, SOMETHING
>> YOU KNOW, SOMETHING APPROACHING THAT, SAVANNAH.
APPROACHING THAT, SAVANNAH. I’M NOT SO SURE IT’S EVERY
I’M NOT SO SURE IT’S EVERY AMERICAN.
AMERICAN. BUT I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE
BUT I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE SURVEILLANCE STUDIES, REALLY
SURVEILLANCE STUDIES, REALLY FLOODING THE SOCIETY WITH THE
FLOODING THE SOCIETY WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF THE TEST, I
AVAILABILITY OF THE TEST, I THINK SOMETHING AKIN TO WHAT
THINK SOMETHING AKIN TO WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS POSSIBLE.
YOU’RE SAYING IS POSSIBLE. >> LET’S END ON A NOTE.
>> LET’S END ON A NOTE. I HEARD YOU SAY IN AN INTERVIEW,
I HEARD YOU SAY IN AN INTERVIEW, AND YOU’VE SAID A COUPLE TIMES
AND YOU’VE SAID A COUPLE TIMES THAT WE MAY NEVER REALLY RETURN
THAT WE MAY NEVER REALLY RETURN TO THE NORMAL LIFE THAT WE ONCE
TO THE NORMAL LIFE THAT WE ONCE HAD BEFORE CORONAVIRUS BUT IN
HAD BEFORE CORONAVIRUS BUT IN PARTICULAR YOU SAID YOU’RE NOT
PARTICULAR YOU SAID YOU’RE NOT SURE WE SHOULD BE SHAKING HANDS
SURE WE SHOULD BE SHAKING HANDS ANYMORE AT ALL.
ANYMORE AT ALL. I LIKE A FIST BUMP AS MUCH AS
I LIKE A FIST BUMP AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY BUT ARE YOU REALLY
THE NEXT GUY BUT ARE YOU REALLY SUGGESTING HANDSHAKES SHOULD BE
SUGGESTING HANDSHAKES SHOULD BE A THING OF THE PAST IN OUR
A THING OF THE PAST IN OUR CULTURE?
CULTURE? >> YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD,
>> YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHEN YOU’RE DEALING WITH THE
WHEN YOU’RE DEALING WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS TERRIBLE
POTENTIAL FOR THIS TERRIBLE ORDEAL THAT WE’RE GOING THROUGH
ORDEAL THAT WE’RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT HANDS
RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT HANDS AND HANDS TO FACE DO IT, THAT
AND HANDS TO FACE DO IT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK
WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD HOPEFULLY BE ATTAINABLE.
WOULD HOPEFULLY BE ATTAINABLE. BUT I DON’T THINK IT WILL BE.
BUT I DON’T THINK IT WILL BE. I MEAN, I SAID THAT.
I MEAN, I SAID THAT. I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT
I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT SERIOUS, AND SOMEWHAT REALIZING
SERIOUS, AND SOMEWHAT REALIZING THAT THAT LIKELY WILL NEVER
THAT THAT LIKELY WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
HAPPEN. WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TELL
WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TELL PEOPLE IS THAT WHEN YOU’RE
PEOPLE IS THAT WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING BACK TO
TALKING ABOUT GETTING BACK TO NORMAL WE KNOW NOW THAT WE CAN
NORMAL WE KNOW NOW THAT WE CAN GET HIT BY A CATASTROPHIC
GET HIT BY A CATASTROPHIC OUTBREAK LIKE THIS, THE WHOLE
OUTBREAK LIKE THIS, THE WHOLE WORLD CAN, WE’VE BEEN TALKING
WORLD CAN, WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S
ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S YOUR NIGHTMARE THAT KEEPS YOU UP
YOUR NIGHTMARE THAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT, A NEW RESPIRATORY
AT NIGHT, A NEW RESPIRATORY INFECTION THAT IS EASILY
INFECTION THAT IS EASILY TRANSMISSIBLE AND THAT HAS THE
TRANSMISSIBLE AND THAT HAS THE CAPABILITY OF HIGH MORBIDITY AND
CAPABILITY OF HIGH MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY.
MORTALITY. HERE WE ARE.
HERE WE ARE. WE KNOW IN REALTIME IT HAS
WE KNOW IN REALTIME IT HAS HAPPENED AND IT CAN HAPPEN
HAPPENED AND IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN.
AGAIN. WE REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED TO
WE REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED TO RESPOND IN A MUCH MORE VIGOROUS
RESPOND IN A MUCH MORE VIGOROUS WAY.
WAY. >> YEAH, AND I SAID THAT WAS MY
>> YEAH, AND I SAID THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION, BUT REALLY, I’M
LAST QUESTION, BUT REALLY, I’M ALWAYS REMINDED OF THIS, ALL
ALWAYS REMINDED OF THIS, ALL ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO KNOW FROM
ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO KNOW FROM YOU, DR. FAUCI, IS WHEN ARE
YOU, DR. FAUCI, IS WHEN ARE THINGS GOING TO GET BACK TO
THINGS GOING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL?
NORMAL? DO YOU THINK BY SUMMER?
DO YOU THINK BY SUMMER? WE’LL BE ABLE TO BE OUT AND
WE’LL BE ABLE TO BE OUT AND ABOUT AGAIN?
ABOUT AGAIN? >> YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THAT’S
>> YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THAT’S THE CASE, SAVANNAH.
THE CASE, SAVANNAH. BUT THE VIRUS AND HOW IT
BUT THE VIRUS AND HOW IT RESPONDS DETERMINES THE
RESPONDS DETERMINES THE TIMETABLE.
TIMETABLE. WE CAN DO THINGS TO INFLUENCE
WE CAN DO THINGS TO INFLUENCE THAT, AND I THINK WE’RE DOING A
THAT, AND I THINK WE’RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
GOOD JOB. I HOPE, AND I’M CAUTIOUSLY
I HOPE, AND I’M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC, THAT WE’RE GOING TO
OPTIMISTIC, THAT WE’RE GOING TO START SEEING THAT TURNAROUND AND
START SEEING THAT TURNAROUND AND THAT CURVE NOT ONLY FLATTENING
THAT CURVE NOT ONLY FLATTENING BUT COMING DOWN.
BUT COMING DOWN. IF THAT OCCURS, AND WE HAVE IN
IF THAT OCCURS, AND WE HAVE IN PLACE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND
PLACE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY AND EFFECTIVELY,
APPROPRIATELY AND EFFECTIVELY, WHEN THE VIRUS WANTS TO START TO
WHEN THE VIRUS WANTS TO START TO COME BACK, BECAUSE IT’S NOT
COME BACK, BECAUSE IT’S NOT GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
GOING TO DISAPPEAR. IT’S NOT GOING TO ALL OF A
IT’S NOT GOING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN BE ERADICATED WHICH MEANS
SUDDEN BE ERADICATED WHICH MEANS THAT WHEN WE ATTEMPT TO GET BACK
THAT WHEN WE ATTEMPT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL WE HAVE TO HAVE IN
TO NORMAL WE HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE THE ABILITY, WHEN IT
PLACE THE ABILITY, WHEN IT STARTS TO TRY AND REAR ITS UGLY
STARTS TO TRY AND REAR ITS UGLY HEAD, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SUPPRESS
HEAD, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SUPPRESS IT.
IT. BY IDENTIFICATION, ISOLATION,
BY IDENTIFICATION, ISOLATION, CONTACT TRACING, THE KINDS OF
CONTACT TRACING, THE KINDS OF THINGS WE’VE BEEN SPEAKING
THINGS WE’VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT.
ABOUT. >> DR. FAUCI, IT’S ALWAYS GOOD
>> DR. FAUCI, IT’S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
TO BE WITH YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE
