- I was hoping you'd watch me park,
because it was one shot, right in, sweet.
And it was a nice little spot.
Usually I don't get this.
- [Cameraman] Alright, well
let's just run from here.
(city sounds)
- This is the scene of the crime, man.
This is where I ask,
guidance and patience
from those who perished.
A most simple message
(clears throat)
I've just got something in my throat.
But this is it, this is where it happened.
3,000 people perished, man.
And you can only say a prayer
and ask for their guidance to help us
ordinary human beings
to do what is right.
That's it, that's all.
And you just do it, man.
It's crazy.
(gentle somber music)
- Answer me.
This is not right.
So if 9/11 is a lie,
remember everything
that happened after 9/11
is based on a lie.
- My name is Charlie,
I live in Jersey,
I come across through the tunnel.
And I've been down here
every weekend for the last
two and a half years.
I'm the "keeper of the
boards", as they say.
We've pretty much made a
niche here at Ground Zero.
And we hand out flyers
and inform the public.
We're not at the memorial;
it's not a disrespectful
spot, where we are.
It's a lot easier talking about it here,
at the crime scene.
Because you can relate to it.
When you're up in Times Square,
people don't care.
- [Scott] My name is Scott,
and I've been coming down
to Ground Zero since 2006.
Because I drew my line in the sand,
and I realized that 9/11 was a lie,
and I don't like to be lied to,
and I didn't like to see
other people lied to.
So I figured I'd come
down here on Saturdays,
and just talk to people and try to see
if I can make them understand
that they need to look into this.
I went on the internet and saw,
on a website,
that a professor, Steven Jones,
wrote about Building 7,
which I did not know about.
And said it was a controlled demolition.
I said, boy, this guy's putting himself
on the line.
I can't believe what he's saying.
So I'm going to read his information,
I'm going to read his paper,
and I'm going to prove him wrong.
And what happened was,
I didn't prove him wrong.
I saw that he was really right
about what he was saying.
And then when I saw the
video of Building Seven,
I truly realized he was right.
Would you like some
information about this?
- I guess.
- Hmm?
- I guess?
- Can I give him something?
- Yeah sure, thank you.
- This-- you understand why we're here.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, they know that.
We was here before,
and I just came after the whole
attack and all this stuff.
I came two days after that, I was here.
So I explained to them all this stuff.
What they mean.
I mean they born in America,
so, they know more than I.
- Yeah.
But you understand we're here to express
that this has been a lie.
- Yes.
Yes, they know that.
- Okay, good.
- They know that.
- Good, great, terrific.
Because you probably weren't even born
when this happened, right?
- He was, he was born.
- He was born?
- No, no I wasn't.
- Yeah, 2001?
- I was born in 2002.
- So he wasn't even
born when this happened.
- Oh, he didn't born yet.
- No.
- 2002, this is the year before.
- Right.
- That's true.
- Well, hold on to this,
because you should read it,
you know,
and if it interests you,
look into it.
And if you have to make a report,
make a report about building 7.
If you ever have to do anything,
do something about building 7.
Alright?
- Okay, keep that.
All right?
Thank you so much.
- You're welcome.
When I first started this,
I got into many arguments
with family and friends,
and I realized from experience,
that I could lose a lot of people.
And so, I've calmed down
quite a bit in the years.
But it's even hard to
talk to my own daughter
about this, so.
It's difficult.
I have to be careful with what I do.
- If you come around front, what we do
is we use a battery pack,
and we actually set up a computer,
so people can actually see
the footage of building 7,
and how it comes down.
It's not easy to look at all.
But it's so easy to ignore.
And that's what's been going on,
we've been ignoring this
uncomfortable truth.
We're being told that
this building came down
because of office fires.
It actually achieved
free fall acceleration.
It's a phenomenon in
physics where all resistance
has to be taken away in order
for a building to fall like this.
And we're being told it came
down because of office fires.
- It's never noticed by the media,
nobody wants to deal with us,
we're just kind of shunned upon,
but that's okay.
We're not out here for the media.
We're out here just for the people
who don't understand what's going on.
- Being down here on Saturdays
is quite different than
being here on the anniversaries.
(intense music)
(choir singing)
- ...the two towers.
10 seconds.
You drop a baseball from
the roof, it's going to come
down in 10 seconds.
You expect to believe
that vertical steel beams
and concrete gave no
resistance whatsoever.
37 of you guys died,
3,000 of us died,
and we were in war.
Come on guys.
- The veil came off my eyes about 9/11
when I saw the documentary Loose Change.
- Friend of mine gave me
a DVD called Loose Change
I looked at that,
and I started to do my own investigation,
I realized that what they'd
been telling us is a crock.
All of it.
It's all lies,
they can't lie fast enough anymore.
- When justice finally prevails
and the whole world can see the truth,
there will be a lifting of
burden off the entire planet.
- [Scott] You know,
we see these people once a year,
I'm glad to see them.
But it would be nice if once in a while
they came down on a Saturday,
and just joined us.
Some do, but many don't.
They can have their little
stretch of time there
to say what they want to say.
And that's fine.
(crowd shouting)
- So why aren't you fighting for justice?
- Y'all ain't lost nobody.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
(crowd yelling)
- It's an eyeball.
- It's a fucking piece of
metal. It's metal and glass.
- It's a Satanic eyeball.
- It's metal and glass, that's all it is.
- You motherfuckers didn't lose nobody,
so shut the fuck up, all of you.
- Billions of lives in fake wars,
destroying our country
we are the new Nazi country.
- My heart is gone.
- Try demanding an
investigation for her murder.
- This aint Woodstock,
get the fuck out of here.
- I'm not leaving.
- We're not leaving,
sir, we're staying here.
- Get out of here.
- You're leaving!
- Will there be a day where we can lose
that immature attitude.
This is what I was just talking about
Immaturity.
- Why are you so upset, relax.
- Because I'm mad.
- So, we're mad too but
we have to calm down.
- We come out to talk to each other.
- No need to be immature.
- We come out to talk to each other.
- That's cool, take a deep breath.
If we can talk about this in a mature way,
things get solved.
- [Man's Voice] FBI Saudi coverup.
FBI Saudi coverup.
(muffled audio)
- It's an open wound in my heart.
- Me too,
it hasn't sealed.
it's an open wound.
Dude I'm right with you.
Can we shake hands on that?
As humans?
I'm not a big hug guy
just to let you know.
The difference between
coming here every weekend
and then showing up on 9/11,
I guess the only comparison
you have in life,
is like people who go to church
and only show up on Christmas and Easter.
You know?
I'm not putting anybody down,
everybody's got a life,
everybody has responsibilities,
and there's nothing wrong
with coming to church
on Christmas and Easter.
You know?
But the sermon needs to
be told every weekend,
it needs to be told every day.
- I'm telling you,
these people, these sorcerers,
at the top of these religions,
they had everything to do
with forcing the people
that own the money,
to pay the people that have the bombs,
to do--
it's always worked like that.
The priest class.
The financial class.
The military class.
The people.
And so, yeah, 9/11's horrible,
United States military
actions are dreadful,
but who's motivating them?
Who's the head of
international witchcraft?
Who's the Pope?
Who's the head Rabbi in Israel?
Who's the head Shiekh in Saudi Arabia?
Who's the Grand Poobah of Freemasonry?
Who are these people?
Are they working together?
Did they have anything to do with this?
My guess is, absolutely,
this is their whole game.
This is too much for some people.
They can't-- they can't accept it.
So I think I gotta wait for people
to ask me to talk about it,
or just stand somewhere and talk about it.
Let people walk away.
But I don't force it down people's throats
anymore. And I used to -
- No no.
Yeah, yeah, that's the
different approach we have
on the weekends.
We sit and let them come to us.
When people come in on 9/11,
there's always one or two that seem to be
just totally crazy.
Like they were provocateurs,
and they were placed there.
And maybe that's not the case,
but even if so,
they're put in amongst us,
they stand amongst us,
and make our entire
group and all our efforts
just go wayside.
And it's sad.
- Fuck you, I talk how I want.
So do you want to ask me another question?
Are you trying to control me
like they did for 13
fucking years to shut me up?
Are you doing the same
thing that they did to me?
No, fuck you.
If you're here to protect
the cops, fuck you!
And if you don't wanna hear
what the fuck I gotta say,
go fuck yourself and go
talk about the thermite,
but in the process of talking about it,
would you please tell us,
who let the people into the
building to put the thermite?
So if you wanna be a porch monkey,
go be a porch monkey for the cops,
if not get the fuck out my face.
I'm not hearing it,
and I'm not shutting up!
If you wanna protest,
go protest.
Go say what you have to say.
- [Man's Voice] If anybody
wants to hear the truth
about 9/11
bring your cameras away from there.
- Go, because people
aren't listening to you.
Why?
Because you sound like a fucking idiot.
Because you've been saying
this shit for 13 fucking years,
but you still haven't answered
basic fucking questions.
Who let the people
inside of the Twin Towers
to put the thermite
in a building
like the Twin Towers?
Who?
Sounds like the police department to me.
- [Charlie] It's questions
you can't answer.
- No, questions you can't answer!
- Can you answer them?
- You've been going in
circles for 13 fucking years.
You wanna talk to the people?
They're here.
Go fucking talk to
them, they're listening.
Go!
Go! Go over there, go talk.
- Can you not--
- Cause they're not listening to you!
Because they're not listening to you!
- [Man's Voice] Anybody
want some information on--
- Cause you're going in a
revolving fucking circle.
[crowd member] Go home!
[Charlie] I'm here every weekend.
You're here every weekend.
So in 13 years of you
being here every weekend,
who put the thermite in the buildings
what's your theory?
- I'm not a cop...
- [Man's Voice] That's what
we're trying to find out.
- We are trying to look at this--
- So when somebody stands
up and points at the cops,
you sit here and make it your obligation
to step in front,
and to speak for these pigs.
If you're ready to stand for them,
then you better come prepared,
that's all I'm saying.
If you haven't put two and two together,
what the fuck can I trust you
with anything that you say?
13 years and you've been going in circles,
in fucking circles,
and haven't figured out
the NYPD is behind it?
- That's only your opinion.
- It's my opinion,
get the fuck out of here.
- It's only your opinion.
- Who was in the military in your family?
- Do you have evidence that the NYPD--
- Yes I do have, I do have evidence.
Alright?
That's the difference.
And if you, no--
I've already said it!
- Present it!
- I already said it!
- My father and my brothers both served.
I was too young to go to Vietnam.
- What do you mean "served"?
My step-dad worked at
the fucking White House.
What the fuck can you tell me?
- [Man's Voice] You don't need to scream.
- There's a difference!
- [Man's Voice] We're listening to you,
you don't need to scream.
You better pray it's a black president,
you fucking idiot.
- [Charlie] How much are you getting paid?
- [Man's Voice] The
president's a murderer--
- Yeah, whatever.
- [Man's Voice] He kills people!
- [Charlie] How much are you getting paid?
- I get paid?
I get paid?
I get paid because I said
that the police department
was behind 9/11?
I'm getting paid?
- No, because you're making
an ass out of yourself.
- At the end of the day,
you're here for attention.
I'm here for the truth.
- [Man's Voice] I think
you're here for attention.
- That's the difference.
- Don't be projecting, take your--
- You been screaming, you been screaming
about this thermite.
Who is it that brought it in?
"I had military people that
worked in the fucking military."
So did everybody here!
So who are you?
What is your affiliation?
- [Woman's Voice] If we could
all just back up a little bit
just to deescalate--
- Do you understand who this is?
We have no idea who she is.
- Exactly, so okay--
Exactly.
You don't.
You know why?
Cause you've been dismissing people
cause all you want to do is fucking talk.
- It's in your best interest to back up.
- I'm here one year, my first year.
- [Woman's Voice] Everyone just back up.
- What am I passionate about
when I'm not at Ground Zero?
[Cameraman] Yeah like
what are you? What's your-
What are my hobbies?
Well, Everybody likes to
dabble with some kind of music.
I love the keyboards.
I've been into martial
arts over the years.
I still do my katas.
The most biggest, largest,
most astounding passion
is Frisbee.
What you can do with a Frisbee.
Playing Ultimate when I was a kid,
now I'm a little bit
older-- lot of bit older--
and I can't run like I used to.
But we still toss the disc,
and both hands, both-- all the throws.
It's just a passion,
I love to throw and play Frisbee Golf.
You know...
It's a good time.
But you know, it's been fun.
And these guys-- it's great to see Rob.
I wasn't sure if he was coming,
and now he's got a girl.
- His energy is always spectacular.
- He's got a lady and kids.
He's getting domesticized.
- I don't think so.
- I don't think so either.
Oh shit.
Oh man.
And Darnell hasn't been around.
He was one of the original.
- I think I've seen him around.
- One of the old ones.
He got abused a couple times
from some of the debunkers, way back when.
Mark Roberts.
They were just "bombs in the building?"
"Oh yeah, ha ha".
And they put music to the--
- Yeah.
Make them look silly you know?
And uh, we got screwed two years ago.
Mike, who's not here, and a couple of us,
and this guy from London.
They approached us
and asked us questions about 9/11.
His name was Myles Powers.
Did you ever see any of his stuff?
- No, no.
- So he comes out,
he's filming us,
well we didn't know he was filming us.
He had a camera on his side or his buddy,
and he was asking us questions,
"why do you think--"
So when it came time to edit it,
he would change the questions.
So it was a different question
than he asked us originally,
then it was on the video.
He'd ask the question,
but then he'd voice over,
"I asked these guys this
question, and here's the answer,"
and I was answering a different question
that he asked me at the time.
So I was like, Myles, come on.
And I've never done a rebuttal.
I don't have the time to edit a rebuttal,
but this guy's got views.
And he talks about atheism,
atheists,
he's got all genres.
And he makes his opinion,
and he's well-talked.
He talks well.
Very articulate.
And, uh, it hurts me to see that.
I get abused and it's not even fair!
It's one thing if I screwed
up and said the wrong thing,
or stupid things,
if he can make fun of
me because I'm stupid,
okay.
But he couldn't.
He had to edit it to make fun.
And that's wrong.
- Just got to block these people out
and just keep focused ahead.
- I guess, yeah.
- [Man's Voice] Form a line.
Engineers, architects,
businessmen, scientists--
9/11 was controlled demolition
all three buildings.
Look, look, look up! Look up! Look up!
Heads up! Heads up!
Controlled demolition!
That's controlled demolition!
That is controlled demolition!
6.4 seconds is impossible.
- Wake up, people!
(crowd chanting)
- The media, how--
alright, Building 7 came down real quick.
Building seven came down
a free fall acceleration,
do you understand free fall?
- Yeah.
- It means something's
falling without resistance.
Well that building's shown
coming down at free fall.
- They warned everybody
because it was not safe to go
there, because everything fell on top--
- Listen.
- Dude!
- You're not listening
and that's your problem.
- Okay, okay go ahead, I'm listening.
- That's your problem, dude.
The building came down at
free fall acceleration.
The only way free fall
is possible in a building
is if all resistance is taken
away within microseconds.
In order for that building,
look, to come down that way,
all resistance has to be taken away,
right away. Micro--
- So why didn't Building 1
and 2 come down that way?
- Does it matter? When the building--
- Of course, I'm asking you a question.
- Listen.
I'm saying do you understand
how that building came down?
- Building 7 came down,
for some reason,
we're going to say that--
- There you go,
you won't even admit--
- I'm listening to you!
- The only way it's possible
is if you use controlled
demolition on Building 7.
- Okay.
What about buildings one and two?
- Okay, we'll get to building one and two.
But if you dismiss Building 7 right now,
I want to know why we're
being lied to about it?
And who are they covering up for?
- That's fine.
Let's skip Building 7.
Let's go to buildings one and two.
What happened to those two?
- Why skip seven?
- Why?
Why can't you answer one and two, then?
Don't you think that
engineers that go to school
for a specific period of time
know how to build to build a building?
You don't want a building that high,
if it gets hit,
to fall that way.
They design them so they
collapse straight down.
- The guy that built the buildings said--
- You're fucking all morons.
- Did you know that the guy
who built the buildings said
that they were able
handle multiple impacts?
- What size planes?
Do your research, idiot.
- Why am I an idiot?
- Because explain, you're right.
But they started building it--
what was it a 747 that hit it?
The 737 didn't.
- Are there any other steel
buildings that collapsed
in history because of fires?
- It was hit by a figging plane!
- Maybe jet fuel that burned
up in the initial explosion--
- You tell us what happened,
come on I want to know--
- I was fucking there you idiot.
A fucking plane hit the building,
the fucking heat melted the damn steel,
and it collapsed.
- That's impossible.
- You guys are fucking impossible.
Get the fuck out of here,
you guys are a bunch of dumb fucks.
- It's physics.
It's just physics, dude.
- Planes, yes.
But certain size planes.
What?
Why don't you go back to--
I'm a New Yorker!
Get the fuck out of here.
- Stop believing everything
the fucking government tells you,
idiot.
(crowd noise)
- Get the hell out of my face.
Shut up lady.
It's not a fire,
it's a fucking plane, you morons.
Go back--
get the fuck out of New
York with your stupid--
you probably are the fucking terrorists.
I have a question.
Why are you guys talking about it today,
yesterday,
the days when we're
trying to fucking mourn?
Where were you fucking six months ago?
- I was at Ground Zero every weekend,
Saturdays.
Every weekend we talk about this.
- Why did they do all this shit?
Respect the fucking people that died.
- Thank you.
- Respect them.
- Family members support our group.
- Bullshit.
- So there you go,
there's your ignorance.
- My ignorance?
I'm a fucking American.
- What does that have to
do with your intelligence?
- I'm not going to say it's an inside job.
- I'm not saying it is either.
- That's what they're saying.
- I refuse to say it's an inside job!
- That's what they're saying,
that's what they're saying,
Silverstein did it for the insurance.
There's about a dozen of you people.
But we got thousands of
Americans supporting my side.
- Well take your time,
check out the research
(audio muffled).
- I'm not ignorant.
I was at Ground Zero, bro.
- Well hopefully the viewers
saw the confrontation.
And alls I can say,
is it's very typical of
somebody with a lot of pride,
and a large ego,
and they refuse to look at the information
because it's going to
upset their core belief.
It's definitely cognitive dissonance.
The passion's good.
A lot of people are walking
around with no passion.
His energy was good.
It's just that he has been too lazy,
or just too controlled by the media,
to actually learn what's going on.
When he realizes it,
people like him realize,
then things are really going to change.
It's not easy to look at it.
It's difficult.
But it's so easy to ignore.
- People like to be lied to.
They just love to be lied to.
It's a fact.
I hate to say and I hate to admit it.
I wish it wasn't true.
Prove me wrong!
I wish somebody could
prove me wrong, to say,
hey this is not a fact.
But people love to be-- how
do you call it-- lied to.
"Oh you're so beautiful,
you're so handsome,
you're so smart.
You're so this,
you look great, you look
fantastic, you look amazing."
It's all lies.
Those are lies.
Because you don't look amazing,
you're just an individual.
You're God's creature,
whether you're perceived
by somebody else as ugly
or you're perceived by
somebody else as disgusting,
you're God's creature.
This person,
these people wanna see the lies.
"Oh this and this and this.
You're beautiful.
You're this."
Nobody wants to know the truth.
The truth.
A third tower fell on 9/11.
On September 11th, a third tower fell.
Nobody wants to hear that.
I'm a "conspiracy theorist"
because I said a third tower fell.
I'm the "conspiracy theorist".
This is a fact.
I offer no theories, and I
point to no conspirators.
But I'm called a conspiracy theorist.
This is--
that's what it is, basically.
- Understand the physics.
See why family members
are making commercials.
It's not easy to look at.
It's not easy to look at.
But it's easy to ignore.
It won't go away.
With turning a deaf ear and a blind eye,
does not make it go away.
We will be here until justice is served.
It's not easy to look at.
It's difficult.
But it's been easy to ignore.
To turn a blind eye and a deaf ear.
Still, to this day, we
question 9/11 events.
And the answers fall on deaf ears.
A complacent society,
with an apathetic attitude
is a poor example of an
intelligent community.
- We've got too many questions about 9/11.
And it's hard to move forward
when you have that many questions.
Well I think that the worst thing
is trying to keep my communication open
to even people who totally disagree.
It's when young kids come here
with a sarcastic grin on their face
and say, "Oh here's these
stupid guys talking about 9/11,
they don't know diddly squat about this."
And then you try to talk to them,
and they just have this
condescending smile on their faces.
They don't know anything about 9/11.
So that's the hard part,
is to keep, keep your cool.
- It doesn't take much to look at it.
But it's easy to ignore, sir.
- This is hard to do on a day like this.
It's cold, it's snowy,
it's hard to communicate.
It's hard to get the pamphlets out.
It's hard to keep the snow off of this.
But we make a point.
We're here every Saturday.
We try our best to do what we can.
I think that's the point here.
It's not easy doing this.
- It's not easy to stand here in the snow.
It's not easy to have
people look another way.
It's not easy to understand
what we understand,
and still have a fruitful life
without depression and sadness and anger.
We have to look away from the anger
to try to bring our message across.
- Thirteen years, we will not go away.
Thirteen years!
We're still asking questions.
(ominous music)
(death metal music)
- The name of the band
is Cranial Engorgement.
And uh, the song we're doing tonight
is "Horrific Existence".
- Right there, look at that.
Look at that shit.
- I love Dying Fetus ,
I love Cerebral Bore ,
but man I gotta tell you,
Dylan is making us--
I'm not saying he's making
us look even better,
but he's making us look at that level.
So it's beautiful.
- Yeah, very professional.
- That last take on the
lights was fucking perfect.
It's like you said,
on
off.
On,
off,
flicker, flicker, flicker.
(death metal music)
- It's not even edited yet
and it's blowing my pants off.
(laughter)
- You know, with these guys,
I don't even think they
knew about Loose Change.
It was always interesting
because people always found out
of course.
And then they'd come to me like,
"I didn't know you made Loose Change,"
and you know, it's like,
a double edged sword
is the best way to put it?
Because it can be something
really cool to people.
I guess really that's kind of been
the majority of the reactions,
is, "Oh, that's really cool"
as opposed to like,
"Oh, you're a fucking
conspiracy theorist."
- You know the first documentary
that got me into 9/11 truth
was Loose Change.
This says third edition,
I would check out the second edition.
That had a lot of good information,
it was easy to understand,
and was direct and to the point.
- Wow, the very first
time I saw Loose Change,
I was working and this guy came in,
and he wanted to show me
a clip of the Pentagon.
And then when I saw it for the
first time in its entirety,
I was blown away.
So it kind of opened up my world.
(idyllic music)
- These guys, Cranial Engorgement,
they've got a bit of a following.
But we're hoping that this
video can be a stepping stone
up to Dying Fetus.
Death metal names are funny.
I'm basically just trying
to have fun at this point.
I'm trying to get rid
of all my expectations,
and I don't know,
part of that whole being
grateful for what you have
even though what you have may
not be what you have in mind,
but it's still what you have.
- [Cameraman] So where are we?
- We are in front of
what used to be my home.
Now it's nobody's home.
Now it's just a house.
When I was looking on Loose Change,
when I lived here,
it was that room right there.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, like, when I moved to California
my mom was living here
and this was my home.
And when I came back, a
year and a half later,
it was no longer our home.
That's one of the reasons
why I don't really come back to Oneonta.
Because there's nothing
really to come back to.
Whole lot of nothing.
Yeah I mean that's
pretty much the history.
I mean my mom,
I think like a lot of other people,
got kind of screwed over
by Countrywide Financial
because she agreed to a
certain price for her mortgage.
And then once the bills
started showing up,
it was a couple hundred dollars
more than she'd agreed to.
And then Bank of America
bought Countrywide,
so Bank of America got a bail-out
but my mom didn't get a bail-out.
Movies were my father, essentially.
Because there were a lot
of movie nights with my mom
growing up.
My dad bailed as soon as he
found out mom was pregnant,
and mom didn't hit him
up for child support.
I think the filmmaker
instinct came up around
mid-to-late teens,
and then when I saw Fight Club in 1999,
I was very much obsessed
with that movie at the time
- We're the middle
children of history, man.
No purpose or place.
Our Great War is a spiritual war.
Our Great Depression is our lives.
- Here I am a young kid,
just about to graduate high school,
and here's this movie coming along that,
you know,
I don't know-- it's kind of a,
a "fight the system and
take back your world"
kind of film.
Fight Club.
American History X.
Dark City.
The Matrix.
You had so many movies come out in 1999
that basically told you
to question everything.
- You felt it your entire life,
that there's something
wrong with the world.
It is the world that has
been pulled over your eyes,
to blind you from the truth.
- So it was an interesting
time to be kind of
coming into my own
and having those kinds of messages
shepherding me into the real world.
- [Fight Club] The demolitions committee
of Project Mayhem
wrapped the foundation
columns of a dozen buildings
with blasting gelatin.
In two minutes, primary
charges will blow base charges,
and a few square blocks
will be reduced to smoldering rubble.
[somber Music]
- When the South Tower fell,
I was on my way up to school.
My friend got a call that
we should turn on the tv.
"What channel?"
"Any channel."
Watched the towers burn for a little bit,
then had to go off to school.
When I got there, the
towers had already fallen.
So I guess the psychological
aspects of 9/11
I kind of missed out on.
Which maybe is why
I kind of have the ability
to kind of see through it.
Not see through it
like I'm an an oracle,
but I wasn't swept up in the fervor
like some people were.
(somber music)
My best friend's first
day of Basic Training
was September 11th.
So his first day of Basic Training
was sitting in a room with
a bunch of other soldiers
watching 9/11.
- [Alec Baldwin] So while your
best friend was over in Iraq,
fighting the Iraq war,
you were sending him the basic elements
of your 9/11 conspiracy theory film.
- [Dylan] Well, yeah, uh,
I'm hesitant to use
"conspiracy theory" but--
- [Alec] Or whatever--
- [Dylan] Whatever you
want to call it, yeah.
- [Alec] No, no.
But I would prefer to at least have
some common language with you.
What's the phrase you would rather use?
- [Dylan] I suppose a 9/11 truth film.
- [Alec] Fine.
- So I don't know how long
we're going to be able
to get away with this,
but--
there's a mattress right here,
so that's good.
If anyone wants a mattress.
But, uh, this is the house
where a good chunk of Loose
Change magic happened.
This is where the second edition
was released onto the world.
It's kind of cool, actually.
I'm just kind of waiting for someone
to come outside and yell at us.
- Ever since the September 11th attacks,
numerous conspiracy theories surfaced
as to how the attacks were carried out,
and who's really behind them?
Tonight, Fox40's Doug
Kolk spoke to a group of
student filmmakers from Oneonta College,
who say they know the truth
that lies beneath the rubble.
- It was the Fox News piece
that really kind of kicked everything off.
And when that interview happened,
we were living here.
- [News Reporter] The creators?
Three SUNY Oneonta students.
Dylan Avery,
Korey Rowe,
and Jason Bermas
who say the film is
total blood, sweat, and tears dedication
and proclaim it's the
duty of every American
to view this film.
- There's millons--
hundreds of unanswered questions
about September 11th, 2001
that are not only being
asked by the victims of 9/11,
but by their families,
widows,
orphans,
et cetera, et cetera.
This is where, uh, shit got crazy.
As soon as the film was
popular, that was it.
There was nothing they could do.
The only thing they
could do was, you know,
what they always do,
send the media after us.
- [CNN News Anchor] A
film made for 2000 bucks
by three friends using a laptop computer.
Dylan Avery is the film's
writer, director, and narrator.
Jason Bermas did the research,
and Korey Rowe was the executive producer.
- The film got so popular that,
you know,
people got bored of
tearing the film apart,
so they decided to tear us apart, too.
- [CNN News Anchor]
They are not engineers,
or trained investigators.
Only Jason has a college degree.
One of the films that is really
getting a lot of attention
is one called Loose Change
that is on the internet.
And one of the things
that it has in it's favor
is it looks so authentic.
- Yes it's done by an aspiring filmmaker,
and most people who've seen it
find it, at least superficially,
to have a nice feel to it.
To feel like it's
documentary, if you will.
To feel like it's a well-stated case.
- I've had some weird,
back-handed compliments.
And I've also had some great,
just regular compliments.
Like Vanity Fair said it was
the first internet blockbuster.
I mean that's a quote
I can take to my grave.
- And you suggested we show a clip
of the documentary Loose
Change by Dylan Avery.
- You don't have to believe
everything in the documentary
to still have questions come up.
And now,
it's just an event that
has many questions,
and no answers.
- David Lynch said it was
a really well-made film,
Alec Baldwin said people in
Hollywood say I'm a hero.
Which is weird,
because people in Hollywood
don't give me jobs
I guess they think I'm a hero.
I don't know, man.
Filmmaking is fucking tough.
I don't know why any of us do it,
but we do it anyway.
I guess that's it.
It's like, what else am I gonna do?
I really don't even know what
else I would do with my life.
It's like,
as frustrating,
and exhausting,
and stressful as it is sometimes,
I really don't know what else I could do.
Or what else I would want to do, rather.
- I'm the guy that thins out the herd.
The one that keeps the wheels turning.
The one that does whatever's necessary
to protect National Security.
Even if it means helping a few people
out of a tenth-floor window.
- You know, at some point,
this is going to go public.
- The trick is,
to keep the truth enshrouded
in a thick fog of lies.
People are basically
just a bunch of lemmings,
begging to be led to the next cliff.
- People are going to find out, Sidney.
- People aren't going to care, Olson.
- [Dylan] Olson was an attempt
to do something similar,
but different,
in that it was a similar
kind of subject material
MK Ultra, you know,
CIA,
Black Ops,
all that fun stuff.
And a narrative project,
directing actors,
getting performances,
rehearsing,
you know, paying for studio space.
Stuff like that.
So it was kind of an attempt,
like if people were like,
"Oh, what the fuck did the
Loose Change kid just direct?"
And it's like,
"Oh, it's something about
mind-control assassins,
of course."
You know.
Not that I wanted "of
course" to be the reaction.
I don't know,
I mean some people go their whole lives
and never have anything really
that they have to worry about
defining them, you know?
It's like a weird thing.
It's like, I made this thing
that was really popular,
poor me.
But you know,
it's when that does become your whole life
and you're 60, 70, 80
years old talking about
that thing you did when you were 20.
So its weird because it's cool,
it's cool to look back
on something and be like,
"Wow, yeah that was a thing I did,"
but I don't think anyone
really wants it to be
their whole life.
(whistling at dog)
Oh baby they're just getting that B Roll.
C Roll.
Couple roll.
- No, just B Roll the audio,
just B Roll it,
fuck it.
- [Cameraman] I'll keep it all in.
- (laughter)
- Yes we um,
Yeah so Korey and I
had our photo critique,
and it was going for a couple months,
and I noticed there was
this Jesse girl in there.
I was like, "Oh who is this Jesse girl?"
Then, oh she lives in upstate New York,
nevermind.
I'm never going to meet her.
And then, um, I guess she looked me up
and was like,
"Oh my God it's one of
the Loose Change guys,"
and she sent me a little message,
and we talked briefly on Facebook,
and then we didn't talk for a bit.
And then I was like,
"I should hit that Jesse girl back up,"
and then I did.
And, uh, now we're sitting
on a couch together.
- I watched Loose Change when I was 18.
I was living in Troy at the time,
I moved out of Oneonta
as soon as I turned 18,
and was living in Troy.
This was months after my
departure from Oneonta,
and I thought it was really cool.
It was interesting.
And one of my friends said,
"You realize the guys who made that
are from Oneonta, right?"
So I actually Googled it,
did not recognize any of their names.
They're all a lot older than me,
so they're probably just some college kids
who claim they're from Oneonta
but they're not really from Oneonta.
And it never really came up agan,
until I saw in the critique
there was a Loose Change mention.
And I was like,
"Oh that means you're from Oneonta, huh?"
And I found out he
really was from Oneonta,
and that was cool,
cause I realized we had a lot
in common because of that.
- [Man's Voice] That's what
they'll have you believe.
2000 bucks on a laptop computer,
when in reality they had
a whole production crew
behind them.
Of course you should know, again,
if they're on CNN,
they're part of the theatre.
No different than anybody
else that you see on CNN.
Nothing makes me more sick
than these fake truth-speakers,
Dylan Avery and Abby Martin of RT.
Just take a look at
that Masonic handshake,
give me a break.
These people are fools only fooling fools.
If you can't see through these people,
you're lost.
Understand?
- The weird part was when we
started getting questioned
by people in the movement.
And people were like,
"Oh are these guys CIA?
How did they get on Fox News?
How did these guys in upstate
New York get on Fox News
to talk about their 9/11 film?"
I don't fucking know,
we just did.
We were at the right place
at the right time, you know?
We were at the right
place at the right time.
- Him and his two Jewish partners
that made the Loose Change films,
or they narrated them,
I mean, they didn't make those movies.
- And then there was a
part of me that was like
oh man,
something bad's going to happen to me.
(laughter)
I don't know what it is,
but something bad's going to happen to me.
- So here to discuss his
new film on police brutality
called Black and Blue,
I'm joined now by filmmaker Dylan Avery.
Thank you so much for coming on, Dylan!
- Hey Abby, good to see you.
- Good to see you, man.
So before we get into your latest work,
you made the film Loose Change.
It's probably the most
viral online documentary
ever made.
How did that insane experience
change you as a person
and a filmmaker?
- I mean like every single
one of these scenes,
every single one of these little beats,
it's like 45 minutes to an hour each.
If not more.
It's documentary obviously,
but there's just so much
hiding beyond the frame.
Which is great, too,
because I mean,
the audience feels like
they're getting a glimpse
at something much greater.
Hopefully.
That's the hope anyway.
It's something to care about.
It's something to get behind.
It's something to devote
two and a half, three years
of your life to
and to be able to look back
and be like, you know,
there was this massive
thing happening in history
and I contributed to it.
- So we're very honored to
have Dylan Avery with us,
because he, I think, is
a towering figure, still,
in this culture-changing movement.
Please welcome
Dylan Avery.
(crowd applause)
- I'm going to start by saying
it's great to see everybody here,
it's great to be back.
It's been 15 years!
Just to put that into context,
this will be the first year
where high school students
will be learning about 9/11
as an event that happened
before they were born.
(crowd noise)
- Yeah it was the first 9/11
documentary that I ever saw.
A guy at work was like,
"You gotta watch this movie.
It's called Loose Change.
The buildings were blown up."
- (laughter)
- I was like, okay,
like I'm okay with a
cool conspiracy theory
but that's a little whacked-out.
And then I watched it and was like,
"Oh my God, he's right!"
- The crazy guy at work is right.
- Yeah, yeah, the crazy guy at work, yeah.
So that kind of started
me on like my 9/11 thing,
although I was always suspicious
from the beginning
but that was the--
- That thing in the back of your mind,
"There's something not right here."
- Right.
So that got me really interested.
Then I watched like everything,
I watched David Ray Griffin,
and so you really started it for me.
- Sorry.
- (laughter)
- That's usually my response to people,
is just "I'm sorry".
- No, no.
- I'm so sorry.
- It's a good thing.
- Jesse Ventura told me earlier today
I ruined his life.
- Really?
Oh that's nice.
- "I just want you to know,
that you've ruined my life."
Thanks?
- What do you say to that?
- Actually my response was
"Don't worry, it ruined my life, too."
- Oh, yeah.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, well...
(idyllic music)
- Holy shit.
Oh there you go.
There you go.
I mean basically, by standing out here,
and handing out a 9/11 truth pamphlet,
it's just the same as standing out here
and handing out a Jesus pamphlet.
At this point to be a 9/11
truther at Ground Zero,
you're just another guy
with a piece of paper
that someone's going to throw out.
"Let's all take pictures."
Holy shit.
Wow.
Someone threw in a penny.
Man...
I had a dream,
like a long time ago,
about coming here after
the dust had settled,
not literally but figuratively.
I don't know, I had a
dream of walking around,
and it was kind of like this.
This part is exactly how
I pictured it in my dream.
It's weird,
it's like I've seen
all the pictures of it,
I've seen years and
years worth of pictures
of this reflecting pool,
but I've never actually
seen it with my own eyes.
The pictures just--
the pictures don't do it.
I think I've done enough
reflecting for one day.
- [Cameraman] Talk about
yourself for a little bit.
Like give us an idea of who you are.
- I feel like I'm going to
be struggling to convince you
that I'm a normal person.
I'm not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist.
I'm not a weirdo.
(idyllic music)
- I was just going over
the ticket sales so far,
for the first time, really,
I took a good look at the budget.
If you wanted to just touch
on that stuff right now,
we could.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
is the only organization
in the 9/11 truth movement
that has a full-time staff.
- As far as I know we are the
only non-profit in the country
that is
basically challenging the government.
- Essentially I was doing
the same kind of stuff,
in my spare time,
as a volunteer.
The great thing is,
now this is my only job.
I can focus on 9/11
pretty much all the time.
- The hardest thing about,
I would say,
about my job,
is, to be very frank,
the financial situation
of our organization.
It's very hard to sustain
a non-profit organization.
We have Tax-Exempt status,
people make donations to the organization
it's deductible from their taxes.
We've managed over the years
to grow into an organization
that has somewhere in the
vicinity of a 500 thousand dollar,
600 thousand dollar budget.
It can be very stressful.
We have a staff of people
that do work for us full-time,
and so it's stressful to
have that on you as well,
to have five, ten people
that are counting on that.
If there was one thing
I'd change about it,
it is for that situation for improve.
But that's my job,
is to improve the situation.
- You know, a lot of
money flows in and out
of the organization
because we do spend a lot
of money on the projects.
The year that we put up
all of the billboards,
all over the world.
Those billboards cost a
quarter of a million dollars.
So you know,
we were able to raise the money for that,
but it comes in
but then it goes out.
(crowd chanting "Rethink 9/11")
- 9/11 started major wars.
9/11 lost our civil liberties.
9/11 destroyed our economy.
- I watched Architects and
Engineers' documentary,
and I was really impressed
with what they had done
with having all of these experts
talking about how
it's just physically impossible
for the buildings to collapse that way.
- [Richard] Along with more than 10,000
other concerned individuals,
these professionals
collectively comprising more
than 25,000 years of experience
have signed our petition.
They're calling for a new investigation.
- I wanted to get involved,
so I started out volunteering.
- Everybody who looks at this evidence
in our DVD
recognizes that that is the case.
These are available, by
the way, on the sales table
in the back.
Kelly, raise up the DVDs and
show everybody where you are.
Kelly.
There we are.
Hold them up.
There we are.
Lots of DVDs for you guys to take home.
You can support AE911Truth
with your donation
of 10 dollars
for the DVD.
- There's a lot of stuff
that goes on here at AE
that needs to get done
on a day-to-day basis.
There's the customer service stuff
that's got to get done.
People--
if they don't get their DVDs,
or if something happened
in the shipping process,
something like that.
- I'm a "conspiracy theorist"
because I said a third tower fell.
- That is controlled demolition.
- The only way it's possible
is if you use controlled demolition.
- I would say, yes, we are stereotyped.
But if somebody doesn't
really understand who we are,
know who we are,
they tend to give us a chance.
- [CNN News Anchor] The conspiracy group
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
plan on standing outside
the entrance on opening day
to hand out fake museum brochures,
designed to look like the real ones.
Take a look.
On the left side of your
screen, the real deal.
On the right, the group's handiwork.
That's, of course, the false one.
Of course they don't
actually prove anything
except for man's capacity
for believing crazy things.
- There's always going to be people
trying to discredit us.
And they don't even have
to work that hard at it.
- By and large,
the media is belittling
and even dehumanizing
people who are in the 9/11 truth movement.
And so every time you
read an article like that,
it's a tiny little dagger,
and it makes you want to fight back more.
It makes you want to, one
day, prove them wrong.
- Just because the New York Times
doesn't report it on the
front page of their newspaper,
and corporate media turns its back to it,
doesn't mean Americans aren't waking up,
and that a large part of our society
hasn't acknowledged this.
They may not know what to do about it,
but it's still going on.
It's like the silent
revolution taking place.
When I say revolution,
I don't mean violence
or anything like that.
A revolution is a change
in thought of a society,
and we're experiencing that right now.
This is one of the most
revolutions since the founding one.
- [Andy] On C-SPAN's morning programming,
they have a show called
Washington Journal,
it's a program where they
invite on different congressmen,
people in the media.
My mother always watched this,
and I always went to
her house for breakfast
in the morning.
One thing I'd seen over the years,
is that people would
call in to the program,
and they would bring up 9/11
but then they would bring
up a flurry of other things,
like six other things.
And so what the guest would do,
would be to try to get
around the 9/11 question
by just picking the
easiest topic out of there.
Illegal immigration,
something like that.
Talking about that,
and then they would avoid anything else.
So I thought,
wouldn't it be great
if someone could just
ask a direct question
about the scientific evidence,
without blaming any parties,
without going into some diatribe
about who they think did it.
Just ask them a specific question
that they can't back out of.
So I tried it,
I got on and questioned McCain
about building seven's
105 feet of free-fall.
Senator McCain,
the National Institute of
Standards and Technology
asserts that the collapse of the 47 story
World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11
was caused by fire,
yet they acknowledge
that the first 100 feet
of that collapse
took place at free fall acceleration.
Now engineers will tell you
that fire cannot do this,
and that the only method by
which it can be accomplished
is the use of pre-planted explosives.
- Your question is what?
- How do you explain the discrepancy
of 100 feet of free fall
without the use of explosives?
- To tell you the truth,
this is an area I am not very familiar.
If you would drop me a note,
and mention that we talked on C-SPAN,
I'd be glad to get you a--
a more complete answer.
But uh--
- He sort of gulped,
and said that he didn't
know much about this,
even though he supposedly
wrote the forward
for the Popular Mechanics book
debunking us,
and said that he'd look into it.
Well this ended up helping
to get us a meeting
with his aide
in his office.
So we thought,
hey, let's keep on doing this.
- ...in the period right before 9/11.
- On the Republican line
from Vernon, New York
is Andy.
Good morning, thanks for waiting.
- Good morning, Steven.
Thank you for letting me join
the weekly war pep rally here,
I heard you dismiss a caller earlier,
when you were talking about 9/11.
The problem is,
is that Building 7 was in a free fall
when it was destroyed.
Are you just going to tell them that, uh,
physics is a conspiracy theory,
and show more disrespect
for their intelligence?
- I'm going to say that I know
a lot of people at the CIA,
and it's a disrespect to them
to think that they would ever be complicit
in an attack against American soil.
I find the theory ridiculous.
- That's the key,
you've got to be consistent.
You can't just have it go on once.
Because once,
they can just write you off as a nutcase.
- Paulo is in Rome, New
York, on the Democrats line.
- You know we talk a lot about
blind justice in this country
as an ideal,
but it's not a reality.
For example, there's
overwhelming scientific evidence
proving that the Twin
Towers and Building 7
were brought down in a
controlled demolition on 9/11,
yet prosecutors and
government legislatures will--
- Paulo, Paulo,
we're going to let you go, there.
That's not the topic of this conversation.
- On the line for Democrats,
Leroy,
good morning.
- the Building 7's 105
feet of free-fall on 9/11
would only be possible
if explosives were used
to destroy it.
- Leroy, we're going to hold off
on 9/11 conspiracy theories--
- There's only so many times
you're allowed to call in
to the program
per month.
So I thought,
why don't I just call supporters
and have them do it for me?
- ..that Building 7 and the Twin Towers
met little to no resistance
as they fell.
And the Twin Towers pulverized into dust.
- Your thoughts?
- If you want to go back to that incident,
and suggest to me,
that there's some magical
conspiracy in the U.S. Government,
that we magically were able to conceal--
when every other thing
I saw that was secret
has come out on the front pages
of the New York Times
and the Washington Post--
I don't buy it.
I didn't see it.
And furthermore,
I never saw something
in terms of the secrets,
the high-end secrets I dealt with,
that was not revealed
to the American people.
- They were getting through
practically every day.
It became a phenomenon on the show.
Like a snowball picking
up snow as it goes down,
and creates an avalanche.
That's what happens in history,
and I think that's what's
going to happen with this, too.
We're normalizing the issue.
- Building seven's 105
feet of free-fall on 9/11
is only possible if explosives are used--
- This is the great thing
about free speech in America.
The caller is perfectly free to continue
to urge his position
and to convince as many
people that he possibly can
that he's correct.
- That went on for a year and a half.
It resulted in Richard Gage
being on the program.
That was sort of the agreement
to make the calls stop.
The problem with the movement is that,
in the past we've been so
focused on the evidence,
and the implications of it,
that there's been a
feeling of doom and gloom
put over the entire issue.
People tend to avoid
things that are a bummer.
People live on this planet to be happy.
They don't want to burden their minds
thinking about things that are sad.
- Ted and I were trying
to come up with ideas
for social media, and something different.
- We came across this cartoon
that was making fun of the fact
that steel can't melt from
jet fuel fires burning.
So in the midst of deciding
that we wanted to post it on
Facebook on Valentine's Day,
we decided we needed
to have more of a focus
on putting out content
that was in some way fun.
- So we said maybe we should put
like a photo of Building 7
with "freefallin'" on it.
- I just connected it.
Like, Building 7, the song "Freefallin'".
We should do something.
- Then I said,
"So why don't we just show footage
of the building collapsing
with the chorus--"
and he was like, "Let's
re-write the lyrics!"
♪ I'm a building ♪
♪ 47 stories ♪
♪ In New York ♪
♪ In the U.S. of A. ♪
- In a way it felt like
the song was written
to be about Building 7,
before the collapse of
Building 7 actually happened.
♪ I'm a weakling ♪
♪ For falling straight down ♪
♪ And I'm free...free-fallin' ♪
- From the beginning,
my hope has been that Tom
Petty would see the song,
and then eventually want to
actually record it himself.
Now,
after putting it out,
and hearing people's responses to it,
I have learned that the building--
the building--
I've learned that the video is
not as fun as we were expecting it to be.
In the end this is a very troubling story.
So many Tom Petty won't
necessarily love it if he sees it
and won't want to record it himself.
But if he does, that would be great.
(idyllic music)
- So we are here at the AIA Conference
in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
I really feel that 9/11
Truth has come a long way
in the years since I started
when it was a bunch of
people in black shirts
out on the streets holding signs.
Now here we are,
AE911Truth,
the most professional
9/11 Truth organization,
the one that is the most respected
and listened to
and has put out a lot of materials.
Just seeing us at that booth
with so many great, professional people
gives me a good optimistic feeling
for the future of this
movement and this cause.
- Hi guys.
You want to learn about Building 7,
the third worst structural
failure in modern history?
This will blow you away.
- Oh is this the 9/11--
- Yeah, 9/11.
What's bringing that building down?
Any idea?
- Terrorists?
- Terrorism.
Fire.
Or controlled demolition.
Or maybe you're not sure?
What do you think?
- Terrorists.
- Your hunch as students of architecture
in this complex world.
- Oh it's like, uh, the steel beams.
They like--
- Steel beams failing?
- They just, like, melted.
- Because the building--
all of a sudden, it drops
straight down,
uniformly,
symmetrically,
at free fall.
How fast is that?
That is
that fast.
How can a building all of a sudden fall
at free-fall?
All 81 columns have to be taken out
at once,
or the building will fall over.
So that's why we have
2,500 architects and engineers
calling for a new investigation.
Because we were told that
this building came down
by normal office fires.
- World Trade Center seven
collapsed because of fires.
We really have a new kind
of progressive collapse
that they've discovered here.
Which is a fire-induced
progressive collapse.
- [Woman's Voice] Heat from fires
expanded long support beams,
causing connections and floors to fail.
- [Shyam] So you'll look
at the floors failing here,
and eventually this column
79 is going to buckle.
It fails,
and the entire vertical
progression takes place.
- Office fires have never
brought down a skyscraper.
So that's why I encourage
you to sign our petition
and join the 2,500 other
architects,
and engineers,
and students
calling for a new investigation.
Because the evidence
shows that it was, indeed,
brought down by controlled demolition
like the old hotels in Las Vegas.
Would you like to join us?
It's just a matter of
filling out a piece of paper.
- Do you have something online?
- Yeah,
you can go right online,
you bet.
In the meantime, I've
got a DVD for you guys.
Let's see--
- [Inaudible Whispering]
- We've been here at the conference
of the American Institute of Architects
and I'm so excited because Tony and I,
and all the other volunteers here--
- We look alike.
- We're on break right
now, as you can see.
We're looking for red tags.
These are architects,
trained building professionals
who don't know about the
third worst structural failure
in modern history,
World Trade Center Building 7.
So Tony,
how do you feel that it's going today?
- I feel that it's going great.
I think the response is wonderful.
The people that I've been speaking with
are very positive.
A lot of them are surprised.
People here that I've met,
wonderful people,
and they have a wonderful outlook on life.
I think that they're optimistic,
I think they're hopeful,
They're people who are
actually looking for a change
in the world.
It's that internal question of
do you participate in society
or do you go away from society?
So you have a brain and you have a heart.
Your brain took you to
school, and you studied.
What does it tell you?
Can that come down from an office fire?
- I'm not sure what
happened prior to that.
- That's controlled demolition.
- Can I take this and look at it first,
and I'll come back.
- Okay yeah, please do, please do.
- I know this was
discussed as a resolution
for the AIA.
- Right.
And that's where the heart comes in.
That's the problem.
You know, I mean,
intellectually all of your
engineering background
tells you that you can't
bring that much force down
right on top of each other.
But when people start
dealing with their heart,
and saying that, you know--
That's like finding out
that your father was a child molester.
He held you, he caressed you,
and all of a sudden there's
this lack of support--
- Mmmhmm well let me read this,
and I'll take a look at it.
- Okay great, thank you.
- Thank you very much.
- Appreciate you.
- The main difference from last year,
is last year we were
focusing on building safety.
We were basically saying,
if this was true,
if normal office fires
can collapse like this,
then they need to change
their building codes.
It did not go well.
We had certain AIA board members
saying that we were a conspiracy group,
and that we were a wolf
in sheep's clothing,
and that we were trying
to pretend it's about building safety
but if you go to our website
we're just conspiracy theorists.
In the meeting itself,
it's very difficult for AIA
members that support us,
to get up to the microphone
and explain their evidence
and have that opportunity.
So this year we made sure that
all of that was right there
in the resolution,
and they have the opportunity
to read it ahead of time.
- It's all just "conspiracy theorists".
I'm a member of the AIA,
I am not a conspiracy theorist.
We have 2,500 architects and engineers
calling for a new investigation.
They are not conspiracy theorists.
This is Anne Smith,
fellow of the American
Institute of Architects
from Savannah, Georgia.
And she's signing our petition today,
she mentioned that--
what would you say is
the reason you're signing
this petition today?
- When I read the description
on the way here,
on the plane,
I was just shocked about
how the building came down,
it's like a classic demolition.
So there has to be more to the story.
- You don't believe fire can do that?
- No, no.
- This is the reaction of
about a third of the people
that we're able to
connect with in any way.
And a third of the people are open-minded,
they want to take
something and look at it,
that's fine.
And another third refuse to
even consider the possibility
that they could've been misled in any way.
And become fearful or angry
or have various kinds
of reactions like that.
- You guys think you can do
it in the middle of the night,
sneak in,
put explosives.
I guess you don't know anything
about controlled demolition.
- Actually--
- But that's okay
cause you guys really
don't deal with facts, so.
I've seen you here before.
- I'll see you later.
- You're not going to see me later.
- After the plane went into the building--
- There's no plane--
- Bush and Cheney had--
Did you hit me?
Did you just hit me?
- No, I said back off.
- You hit me.
Why did you hit me?
I want a police officer.
Security!
- And so, um, yes we expect
to be called conspiracy
theorists, yet once again.
But we have evidence.
And that's what we'll be
presenting tomorrow morning.
- This issue here,
is the pinnacle of all issues
in the world right now.
And there are a lot of people
that have a vested interest
in not seeing it being fulfilled.
You know, I can lay cable,
I'm a licensed electrician.
- Mmmhmm.
- I can lay cable, but
I can't lay chargers.
So who are these guys?
There's demolition companies
around the country.
Get their social security numbers,
find out where they work,
and if they were here,
anywhere around--
And then I said to myself,
those guys will be out
drinking some night,
they'll be drunk,
"I did this" and "I did that".
So it had to be done by
an outside government.
Just like,
for us,
the Navy SEALS would be more than happy
to bomb something in Peru.
- Yeah.
- But they wouldn't do it over here.
- Yeah.
- So who did it?
Well, who benefitted the most?
It was Israel.
- They benefitted the most out of this.
Because what we did was,
we went in and toppled
six governments over there
that they wanted to have toppled.
The only one not toppled
right now is Iran.
In the really big picture,
that could be influential.
- We are honored to speak
to the Nation of Islam today
about what actually happened
at the World Trade Center
on 9/11.
How many of us have already
looked at the evidence
and found that controlled
demolition of the towers
to be the case?
Yikes.
So we're speaking to an
informed crowd tonight.
- It is now becoming apparent
that there were many
Israelis and Zionist Jews
in key roles
in the 9/11 attacks.
Now look,
if they can prove me wrong,
like I said.
I'll pay with my life.
- Who had the access to these
highly secure buildings?
Who had access to these extremely
sophisticated explosives?
The Architects and
Engineers for 9/11 Truth
don't speculate about these issues.
We don't have conspiracy theories.
We discovered today
that explosives were used in covert crimes
by terrorists
who clearly are not the Muslims
as blamed by our government.
- The little barrier that Gage has
where he doesn't discuss
who might have done it.
Cause that's the idea,
to keep you stopped.
Thinking stopped.
Stopped.
- Hey you know,
you're telling people their
government's full of shit.
It's hard for some people to--
- Oh it's almost like finding out
your father was a child molester.
- (laughter)
- You don't want to know.
- Good talking to you.
I'll see you next year.
- Truth is pretty important to me.
I have to stick my head out
in order to get that truth,
and that's what I do.
It's hard work,
but I enjoy talking about it,
because if I can influence
somebody to think differently,
then I've changed somebody's mind.
And it's through changing
people's minds and hearts
that the world will change.
It's not going to be by some decree.
- Something that we lose sight of,
when we read history,
these were real people
that did these things.
We look at the Founding
Fathers as people on money,
or on Mount Rushmore,
and we forget the fact that
these were human beings
that didn't necessarily know
the outcome of their actions would be.
What the consequences would be.
And when you're taking
up a movement like this,
that has many pressures
and challenges put up,
you kind of feel a strange
connection to them.
You kind of look to them for guidance,
in terms of how would they
deal with this situation.
So I feel like we're in good company.
Especially here, coming to Philadelphia,
maybe there's a cosmic irony
in the fact that we are here,
because we are changing the
course of American history.
(group dinner conversation)
- [Kelly] Pretend you're
like Kim Kardashian.
And it's reality tv.
- Our team is non-stop.
Like when are you gonna stop, Andy?
- I'm not gonna stop.
I'll be sitting in the nursing
home talking about this.
If we don't get a new investigation,
I'll be talking about this to the people
even when I'm old and grey.
- How about the lady front?
How's it going with the ladies
in Lafayette?
- Um it's good.
I don't know,
my boss keeps me really busy, so--
- What?
- I said my boss keeps me really busy,
so I don't have a lot of
time to go out, you know?
- The only time I get to meet ladies is
when I go on the road.
- Are you finding there
aren't many ladies in Idaho?
- Well count the ones at this table.
It's worse in Idaho.
- There's one lady at this table.
- Right.
- So Idaho is a
a lonely place,
it sounds like.
- Yeah, ladies are uncomfortable with 9/11
in general.
I have a feeling
that we're just touching
the tip of the iceberg
with Building 7.
Right?
And even the Twin Towers.
Because is this really
about three buildings?
None of us are at this table
because this is only
about three buildings.
This is the entry-way into Hell.
And it takes a stalwart group of people...
before we--
(distant voices off-camera)
- You don't want that on camera?
- I'm just saying,
tone it down a little bit.
I don't know how much you've had to drink.
I want to be careful what you say.
- He's perfectly sober.
- This could be Heaven,
this could be Hell.
Seek the truth
and the truth shall set you free.
- And the people at this table
are willing to go to Hell for truth.
- I'm willing to die for you,
because if somebody wants
to kill me instead of you,
I'm okay with that.
- Awesome just keep those glasses on
- when the time comes.
- I am. Because, you know why?
Because I believe in the eternity of life.
If I can donate my life to a worthy cause,
then it'll benefit right now.
- Me too.
(synth music)
- We're feeling good.
We're ready to rock and roll.
We're going to wake and shake up
the American Institute
of Architects today.
This is the moment
that the architects have to face,
to wake up and realize
that they've got to take a stand
and be on the right side of history.
- [Board Member] Russ,
on behalf of the sponsor,
I move adoption of resolution 16-3,
Investigation of the Total Collapse
of the World Trade Center
Building Number Seven.
- [Board Member] So John,
what is the board's position?
- [Board Member] Russ,
the board does not support
this resolution.
The board has concluded
that this matter has been
investigated thoroughly
by competent authorities
with reasonable conclusions
and does not warrant
further investigation.
- [Richard] World Trade Center Building 7,
after witnesses heard explosions,
fell suddenly,
symmetrically,
at free fall acceleration
into it's own footprint
in less than 7 seconds.
This can only happen if
all 80 columns are removed
at once.
This is what controlled
demolitions do to buildings.
This is not what fires do to buildings.
The 2,550 architects and
engineers that I represent
urge you to call upon the AIA
today
and put our institute on
the right side of history.
- [Board Member] We as a
professional organization cannot,
on the one hand,
dismiss these resolutions
year after year,
and these members.
And on the other hand,
take payment for a booth on the expo floor
year after year.
When we take their blood money,
we not only tacitly
approve their organization,
but are complicit in their speech.
Return their money
and never allow them to purchase space
on the expo floor again.
- [Board Member] Okay so we
are now going to go to the vote
on the resolution itself.
So if you are in support of
the resolution press one.
Those opposed, press two.
Please vote now.
(crowd noise)
- [Cameraman] How do you guys feel?
- Okay.
(laughter)
We got more of the vote than last year,
so that's an improvement.
- So I think we got our point across.
We, uh--
I don't want to say who it was,
but somebody came up to us afterwards,
um,
somebody who's involved with the institute
and told us that he felt that probably
most of the people in the
audience agreed with us,
but it was going to be really
hard to change their vote.
Maybe it's something
that they feel the
institute shouldn't touch,
even though they can see our point.
- So with eleven percent
of the vote this year,
that's more than twice
as good as we did last year.
So we're approaching the
fifteen percent
critical mass factor.
The hundredth monkey is almost upon us.
We just need to persevere.
We just need to crack the
wall of denial a little bit.
And I think we did today.
We had more than 500 votes,
and that's significant.
That has to buoy our spirits,
so that next year when we come back
and talk about the twin towers
and elevate the discussion,
and raise the stakes in this game,
in this professional venue.
We might just succeed completely.
- One...two..
- Thumbs up!
Thumbs up!
One two three!
One two... three.
One two...
(laughter)
- Alright!
- You know,
the first documentary
that got me into 9/11
was Loose Change.
This says third edition,
I would check out the second edition.
That had a lot of good information,
it was easy to understand,
and was direct and to the point.
I watched it the first time,
and I couldn't get it all at once,
I had to watch it a second, third time.
I highly recommend it.
Go on YouTube,
you can probably watch
the entire video for free.
But, uh, when you want to dig deeper,
there's a lot of good
articles in this newspaper.
This is the September 11th issue
about What's going on today.
You know?
And uh, different things.
Everything's connected.
It's not just, y'know,
I mean, it's... it's...
There's too much going on
to talk about it in one conversation.
You got one guy here
who wants to spread information
about chemtrails in the sky,
which I think is a good point.
Someone else might want to say,
well we should still talk
about the JFK assassination,
even though it's 50 years later,
because that's a lot of
where all this started.
All this corruption.
To bring us to where we are today.
Since 9/11, there's
been other false flags.
You look at the 7/7 bombings in London,
you look at the Boston bombings,
you look at the school in Connecticut--
I can't think of the name right now.
There's a lot of things that
don't make sense about that.
So there's a lot of false flags,
and they haven't stopped with 9/11,
even with all of the attention on them.
They don't care.
They just keep doing it because it works.
As long as the people will believe
what the mainstream media tells them,
and doesn't look to alternative media
for other viewpoints,
they'll keep doing it.
Because it works.
And the elites are not like us,
that have empathy for other human beings.
If we were to see
someone get hit by a car,
we'd all run to his aide,
make sure he's okay.
Well they don't think that way.
So people wonder why would
they do these things?
You can't look at it
from your perspective,
because they don't think like you think,
or they don't think like I think.
They're very cold,
and it's all about profit to them.
So whatever they have to do,
however many thousands of
people they have to sacrifice,
to make themselves--
to profit,
they will do it.
Alright.
- Thank you very much.
- Appreciate it.
My dad told me when I was in my twenties,
when I was in college,
you can't read three newspapers
and think you know
everything that's going on
in the world.
He says you gotta get
ten or twenty newspapers
from different countries,
and then maybe
you have an idea of what's
going on in the world.
I still look at the mainstream media
and even though I don't buy their--
I compare.
I try to cross-reference
what they're saying,
and what, say, Alex Jones is saying,
what David Icke is saying,
and try to come somewhere in the middle
about what the truth is.
The fact that Trump is the
only presidential candidate
that's come out and said,
"When I'm president,
I'm going to release the 28 pages
from the 9/11 Commission Report."
And then he talked about, to the people,
he said you're going to
find out it's the Saudis.
You know,
if anyone's done any research,
if you know anything about Saudis,
they're very tightly connected
with the Bush family.
So even though that's not--
I'd like to hear him say more,
it's more than anyone
else has ever given us
at this point.
I think Trump realizes that he is
the one person
in the right time
at the right place
that actually make a difference
and bring this country back.
And I'm for him.
If he can do 75% of what
he says he's going to do.
For me,
it'll be like the second
coming of George Washington.
- All Lives Matter!
You got that?
Come up in my face and
tell me Black Lives Matter.
I might punch you in your face.
All Lives Matter!
- Thank you.
- You got it.
- [Male Voice] Why do you
like Donald Trump so much?
- I love Donald Trump
because he's not a globalist.
He wants to protect this country.
He wants to build a wall,
and vet people the right way
like we used to do it 80, 90 years ago.
- [Male Reporter's
Voice] Explain to me why
being a globalist is a bad thing.
- Because they want to rule the people.
It's the people that rule,
not the power elite.
They're the same ones
who gives us genetically modified foods
that gives us cancer.
They're the same ones who spray
our skies with chemtrails.
Geo-engineering.
They're the same people that put fluoride
into your drinking water
to dumb you down!
It's all propaganda.
Edward Bernays.
Read it.
- Since you, uh, seem
to know a lot of stuff.
Where do you get your news from?
Where do you get your information from?
- I get my news from alternative sources,
because mainstream media
is complicit with the global elites!
- It is the 15th anniversary of 9/11.
We decided that we wanted to
make sure that this year was--
uh, we had a huge conference
called Justice in Focus.
It was a large event,
with many, many speakers.
My main thing,
that I need to focus on this weekend,
is make sure everything runs smooth.
That all the speakers have
everything that they need.
Even little things,
like making sure the
table cloths are ironed.
- I actually like this.
I can just kind, yeah, tune out.
So, yeah.
Although if I tune out too much,
then I create new creases
in the tablecloth.
- Little did I know,
when I first realized ten years ago now,
not only had we been lied
to on a massive scale,
about the World Trade Center
and about all of 9/11,
but the depth and complexity
of the worldwide deception
that we're facing
is absolutely staggering.
As I began to wake-up to
the deep state implications
that the destruction of these three
World Trade Center skyscrapers,
led me to the precipice of.
I knew that I was in way over my head.
I knew that we,
AE911Truth,
and the truth movement as a whole,
would need a whole lot of help.
A separate organization
needed to be birthed.
Tonight we will witness
the official launch
of the non-profit organization
The 9/11 Truth Action Project.
They will be not only wrestling
with the deep state implications
of the WTC explosive destruction,
but with changing society structurally.
For instance,
bringing about the conditions necessary
for a truth-friendly Congress.
A goal which we can,
and all, should support
whole-heartedly.
In the political spheres,
people are beginning to question.
For example, Jill Stein of the Green Party
just came out today
calling for across-the-board
re-investigation
of 9/11
and particularly the
World Trade Center towers.
That's extraordinary.
We need a lot more of
that kind of support.
- I only do this on Saturdays.
We do this on Sunday because
it's the anniversary,
you know?
And you know, it's amazing.
We're getting great reception here.
And I can tell
because I have eye-contact.
I know right away,
when I get that glazed look,
that I gotta stop.
But what's interesting
is I spoke to four people
from Russia,
and it was great talking with them,
and I told them about building seven,
and they understood.
I also mentioned to them that, you know,
it's a shame that we
live, I live, in a country
that's pointing at Putin and saying
he's Hitler.
He's doing some very bad and wrong things.
(male voice from the crowd)
- I'm sorry?
- Don't you feel that the
country's corrupt itself?
- Well you know,
what I did was,
I said to him,
I go online and I listen
to what Putin has to say,
and he makes a lot of sense.
And when you have a person
like Hillary Clinton
calling him Hitler.
(audience member sneeze)
God Bless you.
That's a shame.
I listen on YouTube to
what Putin has to say,
and I felt in my heart
that this man is saying
a lot of good things.
People should be
listening to what he says,
instead of listening
to the interpretations
of politicians
or the press.
- [Putin's Voice Translated]
And I really wish
for your American listeners
to listen to what I say.
First of all,
Russia, as a state,
has never interfered
with the internal affairs
of the United States.
Let alone its elections.
- [Scrambled Voice] This
is where we've ended up,
this post-truth landscape.
Listen to the mainstream media.
Accuse Putin of bombing his own citizens.
- [Male Reporter] Journalists
later uncovered evidence
that suggests Russian security services
could've been complicit
in the Moscow bombings.
Perhaps knowing they would spark support
for a strong man like Putin.
Since he first took office in 2000,
Putin has kept a tight
leash on Russian Television.
This regime decides which
stories air and how.
- [Scrambled Voice] Then listen to RT,
use the truth movement,
to say the same thing
about the United States.
- [Female News Anchor] ...the
struggle will never end
while American continue to be fed lies.
- There's no better blindfold than a flag.
- [Scrambled Voice] This is the point.
To make you doubt everything.
Choose what you want to believe.
- [Man's Voice] If you can't
see through these people,
you're lost,
understand?
Not only is the mainstream
media controlled,
the alternative media
is controlled as well.
(ominous piano music)
- Movements are comprised of people,
and people are fallible.
Therefore movements are fallible.
That's the problem having a leader.
As soon as you have a leader,
you have someone that
you can point to and say,
this is the representation
of the movement as a whole.
Whatever this person says and does,
that's all of these millions
of people that believe in it.
That's the problem with movements.
Movements always fall.
Always fall.
Anti-war movement fell apart.
Several times.
The Anti-Vietnam movement,
it did it's thing,
it fell apart.
There's the famous Wave speech,
from Fear and Loathing,
"With the right set of eyes,
you can see the high-water mark
where the wave finally broke
and rolled back."
So it's--
movements rise and fall,
it's what they do, unfortunately.
But the 9/11 movement
didn't do itself any
favors in that regard,
because it got to the
point where it seemed
people were being controversial
just to be controversial.
Just to say crazy things.
Which is not to say
that there isn't any
kind of agenda behind it,
but there was no rationale behind it.
Because then I'd try to be like,
"You know, guys, we're
all trying to kind of--"
Okay, we had those years
where we all screamed from the rooftops,
and said whatever we wanted,
and talked about whatever we wanted.
It was fine.
But now,
as time passes and we get
farther away from 9/11
and we still hope to get some
kind of an investigation,
we need to coalesce into some
kind of a cohesive argument
so someone can point to the
9/11 movement and be like,
"This is exactly what
these people stand for."
Which was obviously never going to happen.
Because once people say
planes didn't hit the Twin Towers on 9/11,
that's it.
It's out there.
Then people start to pick up on it,
then people start making
YouTube videos about it,
and you know me,
I've looked at more footage of 9/11
than anyone probably should.
Um, I've seen it all in broadcast quality.
I try to tell these people,
I'm like,
you guys are basing
all of your assumptions
off of low-res clips
that have been circulating
online for years.
They've been compressed,
and they've been downloaded,
and re-compressed,
and in some cases doctored,
to make these points that
you're so convinced about.
It's just like,
I-- I give up.
I give up.
This is not my job.
You know, I'm-
I'm a filmmaker, not a babysitter.
