"M>>> WITH US NOW WE GOT FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.
SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY. HE’S OUT WITH A SWEEPING NEW
HE’S OUT WITH A SWEEPING NEW MEMOIR ENTITLED "EVERY DAY IS
MEMOIR ENTITLED "EVERY DAY IS EXTRA."
EXTRA." COULDN’T HELP AS I WAS LOOKING
COULDN’T HELP AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE BOOK AND LOOKING AT
THROUGH THE BOOK AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PICTURES OF SOME OF
SOME OF THE PICTURES OF SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT MOMENTS IN
THE MORE IMPORTANT MOMENTS IN YOUR LIFE, THERE, OF COURSE, IS
YOUR LIFE, THERE, OF COURSE, IS A PICTURE OF YOU WITH TED
A PICTURE OF YOU WITH TED KENNEDY AND A PICTURE WITH
KENNEDY AND A PICTURE WITH ANOTHER SENATOR, A MAN WHO YOU
ANOTHER SENATOR, A MAN WHO YOU HAD SOME STRONG DISAGREEMENTS
HAD SOME STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WITH BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD
WITH BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WITH HIM
STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WITH HIM BUT YOU GUYS ENDED UP BEING
BUT YOU GUYS ENDED UP BEING FRIENDS AND DOING SOME GREAT
FRIENDS AND DOING SOME GREAT THINGS TOGETHER, JOHN McCAIN.
THINGS TOGETHER, JOHN McCAIN. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> WELL, MISS HIM ALREADY, BUT
>> WELL, MISS HIM ALREADY, BUT THE EXAMPLE IS EXTRAORDINARY.
THE EXAMPLE IS EXTRAORDINARY. A LOT OF PEOPLE SUGGESTED WE MAY
A LOT OF PEOPLE SUGGESTED WE MAY NOT SEE THE LIKES OF A JOHN
NOT SEE THE LIKES OF A JOHN McCAIN AGAIN, PERHAPS IN THE
McCAIN AGAIN, PERHAPS IN THE CONTEXT OF WAR, PRISONER OF WAR,
CONTEXT OF WAR, PRISONER OF WAR, BUT WE NEED TO SEE SENATORS AND
BUT WE NEED TO SEE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN STANDING UP TODAY.
CONGRESSMAN STANDING UP TODAY. I MEAN I CAN’T THINK OF A MOMENT
I MEAN I CAN’T THINK OF A MOMENT WHERE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR
WHERE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO DO THEIR DUTY, WHICH
PEOPLE TO DO THEIR DUTY, WHICH THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING. EVERYBODY IN WASHINGTON, JOE,
EVERYBODY IN WASHINGTON, JOE, KNOWS WHAT’S GOING ON.
KNOWS WHAT’S GOING ON. AND IT’S THE CHATTER I’VE HEARD.
AND IT’S THE CHATTER I’VE HEARD. YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW
YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE HEARD THESE THINGS.
YOU HAVE HEARD THESE THINGS. WHAT BOB WOODWARD’S BOOK HAS
WHAT BOB WOODWARD’S BOOK HAS DONE IS CONFIRM.
DONE IS CONFIRM. BUT I THINK OUR BOOKS ARE
BUT I THINK OUR BOOKS ARE ACTUALLY COMPLIMENTARY.
ACTUALLY COMPLIMENTARY. BOB LAYS OUT THE PROBLEM.
BOB LAYS OUT THE PROBLEM. BUT THIS BOOK SHOWS YOU HOW
BUT THIS BOOK SHOWS YOU HOW AMERICA CAME THROUGH REALLY
AMERICA CAME THROUGH REALLY TOUGH TIMES AND HOW WE CAN SOLVE
TOUGH TIMES AND HOW WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM BY DOING OUR JOBS.
THE PROBLEM BY DOING OUR JOBS. >> THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU
>> THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT AGAIN.
ABOUT AGAIN. FOLLOWUP ON YOU, YOUR
FOLLOWUP ON YOU, YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN McCAIN.
RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN McCAIN. IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE
IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO
OF WHERE THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO GO BECAUSE FOR THOSE WHO DIDN’T
GO BECAUSE FOR THOSE WHO DIDN’T GO TO VIETNAM, YOU CERTAINLY
GO TO VIETNAM, YOU CERTAINLY WENT THROUGH IT AND JOHN McCAIN
WENT THROUGH IT AND JOHN McCAIN WENT THROUGH IT MORE PERSONALLY
WENT THROUGH IT MORE PERSONALLY THAN ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU
THAN ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU GUYS WERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDES
GUYS WERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDES IN THAT DEBATE.
IN THAT DEBATE. HE CAME BACK THINKING THAT YOU
HE CAME BACK THINKING THAT YOU HAD UNDERMINED AMERICA’S EFFORT.
HAD UNDERMINED AMERICA’S EFFORT. YOU THOUGHT THAT THE WAR WAS
YOU THOUGHT THAT THE WAR WAS WRONGHEADED IN MANY WAYS.
WRONGHEADED IN MANY WAYS. AND YET, AGAIN, ON THE MOST
AND YET, AGAIN, ON THE MOST DIVISIVE ISSUE OF OUR TIME, YOU
DIVISIVE ISSUE OF OUR TIME, YOU GUYS FORGED A CONSENSUS, WENT
GUYS FORGED A CONSENSUS, WENT OVER TOGETHER AND HELPED
OVER TOGETHER AND HELPED NORMALIZE RELATIONS WITH
NORMALIZE RELATIONS WITH VIETNAM.
VIETNAM. >> THAT’S WHY I THINK WHAT I’VE
>> THAT’S WHY I THINK WHAT I’VE TRIED TO WRITE IS IT’S NOT A
TRIED TO WRITE IS IT’S NOT A POLICY TONE.
POLICY TONE. IT’S A PERSONAL JOURNEY,
IT’S A PERSONAL JOURNEY, PERSONAL STORY ABOUT AMERICA,
PERSONAL STORY ABOUT AMERICA, ABOUT A YOUNG GUY WHO GREW UP IN
ABOUT A YOUNG GUY WHO GREW UP IN THE COLD WAR.
THE COLD WAR. AND WHO FELT AS THE SON OF THE
AND WHO FELT AS THE SON OF THE GREATEST GENERATION, YOU HAVE TO
GREATEST GENERATION, YOU HAVE TO GO SERVE.
GO SERVE. JOHN McCAIN AND I CAME CAME TO
JOHN McCAIN AND I CAME CAME TO THE WAR FROM THE SAME PLACE, AND
THE WAR FROM THE SAME PLACE, AND IN AN EPIC FLIGHT WE HAD
IN AN EPIC FLIGHT WE HAD TOGETHER, WHERE WE WEIRDLY
TOGETHER, WHERE WE WEIRDLY DIDN’T KNOW EACH OH, DIDN’T
DIDN’T KNOW EACH OH, DIDN’T TRUST EACH OTHER, WE TALKED INTO
TRUST EACH OTHER, WE TALKED INTO THE NIGHT.
THE NIGHT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS SLEEPING AND
EVERYBODY ELSE IS SLEEPING AND WE TALKED ON THAT PLANE AND WE
WE TALKED ON THAT PLANE AND WE AGREED THE COUNTRY IS STILL
AGREED THE COUNTRY IS STILL DIVIDED OVER VIETNAM.
DIVIDED OVER VIETNAM. WE HAVEN’T MADE PEACE HERE AT
WE HAVEN’T MADE PEACE HERE AT HOME LET ALONE IN VIETNAM.
HOME LET ALONE IN VIETNAM. WE DECIDED TO WORK ON IT
WE DECIDED TO WORK ON IT TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. WE REALLY GOT TO KNOW EACH
WE REALLY GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
OTHER. WE TRAVELED BACK TO VIETNAM
WE TRAVELED BACK TO VIETNAM TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. IN A MOMENT I DESCRIBE IN THE
IN A MOMENT I DESCRIBE IN THE BOOK I STOOD IN JOHN McCAIN’S
BOOK I STOOD IN JOHN McCAIN’S CELL WITH JOHN McCAIN ALONE.
CELL WITH JOHN McCAIN ALONE. JUST THE TWO OF US.
JUST THE TWO OF US. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THE JOURNEY
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THE JOURNEY WE HAD MADE TOGETHER WHERE WE
WE HAD MADE TOGETHER WHERE WE SAID WE’LL MAKE PEACE WITH
SAID WE’LL MAKE PEACE WITH VIETNAM, WE’LL MAKE PEACE IN
VIETNAM, WE’LL MAKE PEACE IN AMERICA.
AMERICA. THERE WE WERE THESE TWO GUYS WHO
THERE WE WERE THESE TWO GUYS WHO DID COME FROM COMPLETELY
DID COME FROM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POLAR OPPOSITES BUT WE
DIFFERENT POLAR OPPOSITES BUT WE FOUND COMMON GROUND AND THERE WE
FOUND COMMON GROUND AND THERE WE WERE IN HANOI OF ALL PLACES IN
WERE IN HANOI OF ALL PLACES IN HIS CELL SHARING THAT COMMON
HIS CELL SHARING THAT COMMON GROUND.
GROUND. IT WAS A VERY, VERY MOVING
IT WAS A VERY, VERY MOVING MOMENT AND INSPIRATIONAL TO ME.
MOMENT AND INSPIRATIONAL TO ME. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE OP-ED IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES,"
OP-ED IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES," HAVING SERVED IN AN
HAVING SERVED IN AN ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW WELL
ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW WELL HOW THESE THINGS WORK.
HOW THESE THINGS WORK. BUT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS
BUT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS BREAKING NORMS BY THE DAY.
BREAKING NORMS BY THE DAY. AREN’T THERE CONSEQUENCES TO
AREN’T THERE CONSEQUENCES TO HEARING REPORTS LIKE WE’RE
HEARING REPORTS LIKE WE’RE HEARING IN BOB WOODWARD’S BOOK
HEARING IN BOB WOODWARD’S BOOK LIKE WE’RE RAGED IN THE "NEW
LIKE WE’RE RAGED IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES," MEMBERS OF THE
YORK TIMES," MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION BREAKING NORMS IN
ADMINISTRATION BREAKING NORMS IN RETURN?
RETURN? >> NO.
>> NO. IT’S REALLY PART OF OUR
IT’S REALLY PART OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS AND PART
CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS AND PART OF THE RIGHT OF ANY AMERICAN TO
OF THE RIGHT OF ANY AMERICAN TO SPEAK OUT AND YOU TAKE THE
SPEAK OUT AND YOU TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES WHEN YOU DO.
CONSEQUENCES WHEN YOU DO. GO BACK, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF
GO BACK, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF THE HISTORY, DANIEL ELLSBERG
THE HISTORY, DANIEL ELLSBERG PEOPLE WHO SAW A HIGHER
PEOPLE WHO SAW A HIGHER RESPONSIBILITY TO COUNTRY.
RESPONSIBILITY TO COUNTRY. WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS
WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW IS EVERYBODY IN
MOMENT RIGHT NOW IS EVERYBODY IN WASHINGTON DOES KNOW THIS.
WASHINGTON DOES KNOW THIS. ALL THE REPUBLICANS KNOW THIS.
ALL THE REPUBLICANS KNOW THIS. THEY KNOW DONALD TRUMP IS NOT
THEY KNOW DONALD TRUMP IS NOT COMPETENT.
COMPETENT. NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THE
NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF PRESIDENT.
RESPONSIBILITIES OF PRESIDENT. AND IT HAS ENORMOUS
AND IT HAS ENORMOUS CONSEQUENCES.
CONSEQUENCES. RICHARD KNOWS WHAT LEADERS IN
RICHARD KNOWS WHAT LEADERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES ARE SITTING
OTHER COUNTRIES ARE SITTING AROUND TALKING TO EACH OTHER
AROUND TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT NOW.
ABOUT NOW. IF YOU’RE A PUTIN OR A XI YOU’RE
IF YOU’RE A PUTIN OR A XI YOU’RE ENGAGED IN ONE BELT ONE ROAD
ENGAGED IN ONE BELT ONE ROAD PROJECT WITH A TRILLION DOLLARS
PROJECT WITH A TRILLION DOLLARS BEING SPENT IN 68 COUNTRIES.
BEING SPENT IN 68 COUNTRIES. YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES
YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES BOY THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY,
BOY THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY, LET’S DRIVE IT TO THE HILT.
LET’S DRIVE IT TO THE HILT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LOST
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LOST CAUSE IN WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW.
CAUSE IN WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW. NOBODY IS RECKONING THAT IN
NOBODY IS RECKONING THAT IN WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES
MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE, THIS IS WHAT THE SENATE
SENATE, THIS IS WHAT THE SENATE WAS DEFINED FOR THIS MOMENT.
WAS DEFINED FOR THIS MOMENT. AND IT IS A MOMENT THAT CALLS ON
AND IT IS A MOMENT THAT CALLS ON THEM TO DO THINGS THAT ARE
THEM TO DO THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO STOP GAP WHAT
NECESSARY TO STOP GAP WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS EITHER NOT DOING
DONALD TRUMP IS EITHER NOT DOING OR NOT CAPABLE EVER DOING, AND
OR NOT CAPABLE EVER DOING, AND THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, I THINK.
THINGS, I THINK. BUT THE BIGGEST SINGLE
BUT THE BIGGEST SINGLE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I
OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I THINK, IS 2018.
THINK, IS 2018. WE CAN HAVE A COURSE CORRECTION
WE CAN HAVE A COURSE CORRECTION IN OUR OWN DEMOCRACY THAT
IN OUR OWN DEMOCRACY THAT ACTUALLY REVITALIZES OUR
ACTUALLY REVITALIZES OUR DEMOCRACY AGAIN I WRITE ABOUT
DEMOCRACY AGAIN I WRITE ABOUT THAT IN THE BOOK.
THAT IN THE BOOK. GO BACK TO 1971, ’27.
GO BACK TO 1971, ’27. ’71 IS WHEN I PROTESTED WAR.
’71 IS WHEN I PROTESTED WAR. RICHARD NIXON WAS VERY POPULAR
RICHARD NIXON WAS VERY POPULAR THEN.
THEN. HE CARRIED 49 STATES IN ’72.
HE CARRIED 49 STATES IN ’72. ONE YEAR LATER HE WAS GONE.
ONE YEAR LATER HE WAS GONE. WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE PEOPLE DID THEIR JOBS.
BECAUSE PEOPLE DID THEIR JOBS. THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WERE THERE
THE INSTITUTIONS THAT WERE THERE STOOD UP AND RESISTED.
STOOD UP AND RESISTED. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MEMO, WHEN
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MEMO, WHEN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" SAYS
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" SAYS SENIOR, THEY MEAN SENIOR.
SENIOR, THEY MEAN SENIOR. AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE
AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PUBLISHED THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW
PUBLISHED THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES.
THE CONSEQUENCES. IF THEY DIDN’T HAVE CONFIDENCE.
IF THEY DIDN’T HAVE CONFIDENCE. THEY KNOW WHO IT IS.
THEY KNOW WHO IT IS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO,
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO, THEREFORE, UNDERSTAND THE
THEREFORE, UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THIS PERSON
IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THIS PERSON HAS DONE.
HAS DONE. WOULD I PREFER AS OTHERS HERE
WOULD I PREFER AS OTHERS HERE WOULD THAT IT WERE PUBLIC, SURE
WOULD THAT IT WERE PUBLIC, SURE BUT IT DOESN’T DIMINISH THE
BUT IT DOESN’T DIMINISH THE CONSEQUENCE OF IT.
CONSEQUENCE OF IT. >> WHAT OUGHT TO BE SECRETARY
>> WHAT OUGHT TO BE SECRETARY KERRY THE MESSAGE OF DEMOCRATS.
KERRY THE MESSAGE OF DEMOCRATS. 2018 YOU SAW PRESLEY WINNING IN
2018 YOU SAW PRESLEY WINNING IN MASSACHUSETTS.
MASSACHUSETTS. >> WORKED FOR ME FOR 15 YEARS.
>> WORKED FOR ME FOR 15 YEARS. GREAT LADY.
GREAT LADY. >> KNOCKED OFF A 20 YEAR
>> KNOCKED OFF A 20 YEAR INCUMBENT THERE.
INCUMBENT THERE. I KNOW IT’S DISTRICT BY DISTRICT
I KNOW IT’S DISTRICT BY DISTRICT BUT WHAT’S THE MESSAGE IF IT’S
BUT WHAT’S THE MESSAGE IF IT’S NOT JUST ANTI-DONALD TRUMP
NOT JUST ANTI-DONALD TRUMP WHAT’S THE DEMOCRATS MESSAGE?
WHAT’S THE DEMOCRATS MESSAGE? >> THE MESSAGE SHOULDN’T BE JUST
>> THE MESSAGE SHOULDN’T BE JUST DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS. WE’RE WASTING TOO MUCH TIME ON
WE’RE WASTING TOO MUCH TIME ON TWEETS AND DAILY THINGS.
TWEETS AND DAILY THINGS. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA’S
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA’S AGENDA.
AGENDA. WE NEED TO OFFER A BETTER WAY OF
WE NEED TO OFFER A BETTER WAY OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE
MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. CITIZENS ON THE RIGHT, CITIZENS
CITIZENS ON THE RIGHT, CITIZENS ON THE LEFT ARE EQUALLY ANGRY AT
ON THE LEFT ARE EQUALLY ANGRY AT THEIR LOT IN LIFE BECAUSE THEIR
THEIR LOT IN LIFE BECAUSE THEIR NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET.
NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET. WHEN YOU HAVE 52% OF AMERICA’S
WHEN YOU HAVE 52% OF AMERICA’S INCOME GOING TO 1% OF AMERICANS,
INCOME GOING TO 1% OF AMERICANS, YOU HAVE AN UNSUSTAINABLE
YOU HAVE AN UNSUSTAINABLE POLITICAL EQUATION.
POLITICAL EQUATION. EVERYBODY IN AMERICA KNOWS THE.
EVERYBODY IN AMERICA KNOWS THE. AND THE REASON YOU WENT FROM
AND THE REASON YOU WENT FROM GINGRICH REVOLUTION TO TEA PARTY
GINGRICH REVOLUTION TO TEA PARTY TO FREEDOM CAUCUS TO DONALD
TO FREEDOM CAUCUS TO DONALD TRUMP AND HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF
TRUMP AND HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS FRUSTRATION WITH THE LACK OF
FRUSTRATION WITH THE LACK OF ADEQUATE RESPONSE.
ADEQUATE RESPONSE. SO WE HAVE IN TWO MONTHS A
SO WE HAVE IN TWO MONTHS A REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP, ON
REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP, ON ALL OF THIS.
ALL OF THIS. BUT IT WON’T WORK IF WE’RE NOT
BUT IT WON’T WORK IF WE’RE NOT OFFERING AMERICA A WAY TO SHOW
OFFERING AMERICA A WAY TO SHOW THE INSTITUTIONS CAN WORK, HOW
THE INSTITUTIONS CAN WORK, HOW THEY WORK AND, AGAIN, I COME
THEY WORK AND, AGAIN, I COME BACK TO THE BOOK.
BACK TO THE BOOK. I SHOW IN THE BOOK AGAIN AND
I SHOW IN THE BOOK AGAIN AND AGAIN HOW THE SENATE COULD WORK.
AGAIN HOW THE SENATE COULD WORK. WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN I CAME
WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN I CAME THERE IN THE 1980s, WHEN IT WAS
THERE IN THE 1980s, WHEN IT WAS FUNCTIONING AND ABLE TO GET
FUNCTIONING AND ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE.
THINGS DONE. WE BALANCED THE BUDGET IN THE
WE BALANCED THE BUDGET IN THE 1980s, FOLKS OPINION HERE WE ARE
1980s, FOLKS OPINION HERE WE ARE WITH A COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTIONAL
WITH A COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTIONAL WASHINGTON THAT ALSO IS LIVING
WASHINGTON THAT ALSO IS LIVING IN A KIND OF INSIDIOUS
IN A KIND OF INSIDIOUS CORRUPTION THAT COMES FROM MONEY
CORRUPTION THAT COMES FROM MONEY IN AMERICAN POLITICS AND
IN AMERICAN POLITICS AND UNWILLINGNESS OF PEOPLE TO
UNWILLINGNESS OF PEOPLE TO PERFORM THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL
PERFORM THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
RESPONSIBILITY. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THE
WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THE EXECUTIVE, WHEN YOU DISAGREE
EXECUTIVE, WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
STATES. LET’S TALK ABOUT SYRIA, AND YOU
LET’S TALK ABOUT SYRIA, AND YOU GAVE A SPEECH IN THE SUMMER
GAVE A SPEECH IN THE SUMMER OF -- TWO, THREE SUMMERS AGO
OF -- TWO, THREE SUMMERS AGO ABOUT THE NEED TO TAKE ON SYRIA,
ABOUT THE NEED TO TAKE ON SYRIA, THE RED LINE.
THE RED LINE. THAT EVENING, THE DAY THAT YOU
THAT EVENING, THE DAY THAT YOU GAVE THE SPEECH THE PRESIDENT OF
GAVE THE SPEECH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WALKS AROUND
THE UNITED STATES WALKS AROUND THE SOUTH LAWN WITH THE CHIEF OF
THE SOUTH LAWN WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THEY CHANGE THE
STAFF AND THEY CHANGE THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE TAKING.
DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE TAKING. WHAT HAPPENS INTERNALLY WHEN YOU
WHAT HAPPENS INTERNALLY WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH A DECISION MADE BY
DISAGREE WITH A DECISION MADE BY THE PRESIDENT?
THE PRESIDENT? >> WELL, MICHAEL, I THINK IT
>> WELL, MICHAEL, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONSEQUENCE
DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE DECISION IS.
OF THE DECISION IS. ON OCCASION YOU MAY FEEL YOU
ON OCCASION YOU MAY FEEL YOU HAVE TO RESIGN AS VANCE DID WHEN
HAVE TO RESIGN AS VANCE DID WHEN A DECISION WAS MADE IN DESERT
A DECISION WAS MADE IN DESERT ONE WHEN THEY TRIED MAKE A
ONE WHEN THEY TRIED MAKE A RESCUES OF THE HOSTAGES AND IT
RESCUES OF THE HOSTAGES AND IT FAILED.
FAILED. DIFFERENT MOMENTS, DIFFERENT
DIFFERENT MOMENTS, DIFFERENT CONSEQUENCES.
CONSEQUENCES. IN THIS CASE IT WASN’T A
IN THIS CASE IT WASN’T A REVERSAL OF THE DIRECTION WE
REVERSAL OF THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING.
WERE GOING. IT WAS A DECISION BY THE
IT WAS A DECISION BY THE PRESIDENT TO TRY TO GET CONGRESS
PRESIDENT TO TRY TO GET CONGRESS TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.
TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. AND THAT WAS A FAIR DECISION BY
AND THAT WAS A FAIR DECISION BY ANY PRESIDENT TO MAKE,
ANY PRESIDENT TO MAKE, PARTICULARLY ONE OR TWO DAYS
PARTICULARLY ONE OR TWO DAYS AFTER THE PRIME MINISTER OF
AFTER THE PRIME MINISTER OF ENGLAND HAD GONE TO PARLIAMENT
ENGLAND HAD GONE TO PARLIAMENT FOR THAT VERY REASON AND IT
FOR THAT VERY REASON AND IT FAILED IN PARLIAMENT.
FAILED IN PARLIAMENT. SO THAT AUGMENTED THE NEED TO
SO THAT AUGMENTED THE NEED TO SAY WHOA IF IT FAILED THERE
SAY WHOA IF IT FAILED THERE THERE’S ALL THE MORE REASON TO
THERE’S ALL THE MORE REASON TO FEEL YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
FEEL YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE BELIEVED, JOE BIDEN BELIEVED,
WE BELIEVED, JOE BIDEN BELIEVED, I BELIEVED, THE PRESIDENT
I BELIEVED, THE PRESIDENT BELIEVED, MOST OF US BELIEVED,
BELIEVED, MOST OF US BELIEVED, SUSAN RICE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT
SUSAN RICE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT IT RIGHT CONGRESS WOULDN’T
GOT IT RIGHT CONGRESS WOULDN’T DO SOMETHING.
DO SOMETHING. WE THOUGHT CONGRESS WOULD
WE THOUGHT CONGRESS WOULD SUPPORT IT RAPIDLY AND WE WERE
SUPPORT IT RAPIDLY AND WE WERE WRONG.
WRONG. WE MISCALCULATED THAT.
WE MISCALCULATED THAT. WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK, YOU DO
WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK, YOU DO YOUR BEST TO IMPLEMENT A
YOUR BEST TO IMPLEMENT A LEGITIMATE POLICY AND THE
LEGITIMATE POLICY AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, ONE MAT MADE SENSE IN THAT
ONE MAT MADE SENSE IN THAT MOMENT BUT, OBVIOUSLY, COST US,
MOMENT BUT, OBVIOUSLY, COST US, ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE OF THE WAY
ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT PLAYED OUT.
IT PLAYED OUT. >> I WANT TO RAISE SYRIA AND
>> I WANT TO RAISE SYRIA AND WHEN YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE
WHEN YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE BECAUSE HERE WE ARE MEETING
BECAUSE HERE WE ARE MEETING TODAY AND TWO AND A HALF, THREE
TODAY AND TWO AND A HALF, THREE MILLION SYRIANS ARE LIVING ON
MILLION SYRIANS ARE LIVING ON DEATH’S FORDOOR.
DEATH’S FORDOOR. WE’RE ABOUT TO SEE THE FINAL
WE’RE ABOUT TO SEE THE FINAL OFFENSIVE AND QUITE POSSIBLY
OFFENSIVE AND QUITE POSSIBLY CRUSH THE OPPOSITION REMAINING
CRUSH THE OPPOSITION REMAINING AND MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE
AND MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE THEIR LIVES ARE AT RISK.
THEIR LIVES ARE AT RISK. WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST
WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS WHAT
SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS WHAT LESSONS SHOULD WE TAKE ABOUT
LESSONS SHOULD WE TAKE ABOUT WHAT THE UNITED STATES DID AND
WHAT THE UNITED STATES DID AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE
THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE DIDN’T DO?
DIDN’T DO? >> SYRIA IS THE, IS ONE OF THE
>> SYRIA IS THE, IS ONE OF THE FEW GREATEST SCARS THAT EXISTS
FEW GREATEST SCARS THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD TODAY IN TERM OF
IN THE WORLD TODAY IN TERM OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY’S
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY’S FAILURE TO STEP UP TOGETHER TO
FAILURE TO STEP UP TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION.
FIND A SOLUTION. I THINK THERE IS A SOLUTION.
I THINK THERE IS A SOLUTION. I THINK WE PUT IT ON THE TABLE
I THINK WE PUT IT ON THE TABLE IN U.N. RESOLUTION 2254 WHICH
IN U.N. RESOLUTION 2254 WHICH ALL COUNTRIES INCLUDING IRAN,
ALL COUNTRIES INCLUDING IRAN, RUSSIA AND INCLUDING THE
RUSSIA AND INCLUDING THE COUNTRIES WHO ARE NEIGHBORS,
COUNTRIES WHO ARE NEIGHBORS, TURKEY, ET CETERA, ALL AGREE ON
TURKEY, ET CETERA, ALL AGREE ON A WAY TO RESOLVE SYRIA BY
A WAY TO RESOLVE SYRIA BY LETTING PEOPLE OF SIR ELECT A
LETTING PEOPLE OF SIR ELECT A NEW PRESIDENT UNDER A VERY
NEW PRESIDENT UNDER A VERY ACCOUNTEDABLE ELECTION, RUN BY
ACCOUNTEDABLE ELECTION, RUN BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY,
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD BRING THE OPPOSITION
WHICH WOULD BRING THE OPPOSITION IN TO PARTICIPATE.
IN TO PARTICIPATE. I MEAN EVERYBODY ACCEPTED THAT.
I MEAN EVERYBODY ACCEPTED THAT. THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN’T HAVE
THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN’T HAVE ANY LEVERAGE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL
ANY LEVERAGE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ASSAD HIMSELF.
WITH ASSAD HIMSELF. THE RUSSIANS DIDN’T STAND UP AND
THE RUSSIANS DIDN’T STAND UP AND HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.
HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE. WHAT’S THE LESS SNON I WROTE HOW
WHAT’S THE LESS SNON I WROTE HOW I BELIEVE WE NEEDED TO STEP IN
I BELIEVE WE NEEDED TO STEP IN AND EXERCISE AUTHORITY TO SHOW
AND EXERCISE AUTHORITY TO SHOW WE’RE WILLING TO HOLD HIM
WE’RE WILLING TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.
ACCOUNTABLE. >> INCLUDING THE USE OF FORCE?
>> INCLUDING THE USE OF FORCE? >> IF HE WAS GOING TO FLY HIS
>> IF HE WAS GOING TO FLY HIS AIRPLANES AND DROP BOMBS ON
AIRPLANES AND DROP BOMBS ON ALEPPO, WE HAD BACK UP THOSE
ALEPPO, WE HAD BACK UP THOSE NORMS OF BEHAVIOR.
NORMS OF BEHAVIOR. >> MR. SECRETARY, IN "EVERY DAY
>> MR. SECRETARY, IN "EVERY DAY IS EXTRA" YOU DETAIL HOW YOU
IS EXTRA" YOU DETAIL HOW YOU CAME BACK FROM VIETNAM A
CAME BACK FROM VIETNAM A DISILLUSIONED YOUNG MAN AND I
DISILLUSIONED YOUNG MAN AND I JUST WONDER WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE
JUST WONDER WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE MESSAGE IS FROM THIS BOOK TO
MESSAGE IS FROM THIS BOOK TO YOUNG AMERICANS TODAY WHO MAY BE
YOUNG AMERICANS TODAY WHO MAY BE DISILLUSIONED IN POLITIC,
DISILLUSIONED IN POLITIC, WHETHER THEY ARE LIBERALS WHO
WHETHER THEY ARE LIBERALS WHO CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IN
CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016, OR YOUNG CONSERVATIVES WHO
2016, OR YOUNG CONSERVATIVES WHO CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IN
CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016, OR YOUNG INDEPENDENTS WHO
2016, OR YOUNG INDEPENDENTS WHO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES AND SAY NO
LOOK AT BOTH SIDES AND SAY NO THANKS I’M CHECKING OUT OF THE
THANKS I’M CHECKING OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
SYSTEM. EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW
EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THINGS CHANGED BETWEEN
QUICKLY THINGS CHANGED BETWEEN NOVEMBER ’72 AND AUGUST ’74.
NOVEMBER ’72 AND AUGUST ’74. >> MY MESSAGE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY
>> MY MESSAGE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HEAR THE WORDS FROM POLITICIANS
HEAR THE WORDS FROM POLITICIANS BUT DON’T ALWAYS BELIEVE THEM.
BUT DON’T ALWAYS BELIEVE THEM. THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL CAN REALLY
THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN.
BACK THEN. EARTH DAY, 20 MILLION PEOPLE
EARTH DAY, 20 MILLION PEOPLE COME OUT, TRANSLATE IT INTO A
COME OUT, TRANSLATE IT INTO A MOVEMENT THAT MADE THE ISSUE A
MOVEMENT THAT MADE THE ISSUE A VOTING ISSUE AND TARGETED THE 12
VOTING ISSUE AND TARGETED THE 12 WORST VOTES IN CONGRESS LABELLED
WORST VOTES IN CONGRESS LABELLED THEM THE DIRTY DOZEN.
THEM THE DIRTY DOZEN. SEVEN OF THE 12 LOST THEIR
SEVEN OF THE 12 LOST THEIR SEATS.
SEATS. CLEAN AIR PASSED.
CLEAN AIR PASSED. SAFE DRINKING WATER.
SAFE DRINKING WATER. COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT.
COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT. EPA SIGNED INTO LAW BY RICHARD
EPA SIGNED INTO LAW BY RICHARD NIXON.
NIXON. YOUNG PEOPLE MADE THAT HAPPEN.
YOUNG PEOPLE MADE THAT HAPPEN. THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE
THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE TOOK A SEMESTER OFF FROM
TOOK A SEMESTER OFF FROM COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. ALL OF IT CAME FROM THIS ENERGY
ALL OF IT CAME FROM THIS ENERGY FOR THE PEACE MOVEMENT, FOR
FOR THE PEACE MOVEMENT, FOR WOMEN, FOR EQUAL RIGHTS
WOMEN, FOR EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT. THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING.
THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING. ONCE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE
ONCE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE ACCOMPLISHED PEOPLE WENT TO
ACCOMPLISHED PEOPLE WENT TO SLEEP AND BACKED OFF.
SLEEP AND BACKED OFF. WE HAVE TO REJUVENATE,
WE HAVE TO REJUVENATE, RE-ENERGIZE OUR DEMOCRACY.
RE-ENERGIZE OUR DEMOCRACY. HERE’S THE MAGIC NUMBER.
HERE’S THE MAGIC NUMBER. 54.2.
54.2. 54.2% OF THE ELIGIBLE AMERICANS
54.2% OF THE ELIGIBLE AMERICANS VOTED IN 2016.
VOTED IN 2016. WHEN I RAN IN ’04, THE ELIGIBLE
WHEN I RAN IN ’04, THE ELIGIBLE VOTE WAS 60.4%.
VOTE WAS 60.4%. WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN
WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN ’08 IT WAS 62.3%.
’08 IT WAS 62.3%. AND THEN IT DROPPED DOWN IN THE
AND THEN IT DROPPED DOWN IN THE RE-ELECT TO 58%.
RE-ELECT TO 58%. LAST TIME IT WAS 52.4%, AL GORE.
LAST TIME IT WAS 52.4%, AL GORE. SO THE LESSON IT’S NOT THE
SO THE LESSON IT’S NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DID VOTE WHO ELECTED
PEOPLE WHO DID VOTE WHO ELECTED DONALD TRUMP IT’S PEOPLE WHO
DONALD TRUMP IT’S PEOPLE WHO DIDN’T VOTE.
DIDN’T VOTE. YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE VOTE.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THE VOTE. HISTORICALLY THEY DON’T ALWAYS
HISTORICALLY THEY DON’T ALWAYS TURN OUT.
TURN OUT. WE HAVE TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE. CLIMATE CHANGE.
CLIMATE CHANGE. I CAN’T THINK OF AN ISSUE THAT
I CAN’T THINK OF AN ISSUE THAT WILL MOTIVATE, HERE HEADING TO
WILL MOTIVATE, HERE HEADING TO FOUR DEGREES SCENECENTIGRADE IN
FOUR DEGREES SCENECENTIGRADE IN CENTURY.
CENTURY. HOTTEST TEN YEARS IN RECORDED
HOTTEST TEN YEARS IN RECORDED HISTORY.
HISTORY. LAST YEAR THE HOTTEST YEAR IN
LAST YEAR THE HOTTEST YEAR IN HISTORY.
HISTORY. THE TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT, THE
THE TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT, THE SECOND HOTTEST TEN YEARS.
SECOND HOTTEST TEN YEARS. THE TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT, THE
THE TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT, THE THIRD HOTTEST TEN YEARS.
THIRD HOTTEST TEN YEARS. ISN’T THERE A MESSAGE FROM THAT
ISN’T THERE A MESSAGE FROM THAT SOMEWHERE WHEN PRESIDENT XI,
SOMEWHERE WHEN PRESIDENT XI, PRESIDENT PUTIN, ALL THESE
PRESIDENT PUTIN, ALL THESE PEOPLE AREED A HEARING TO THE
PEOPLE AREED A HEARING TO THE PARIS AGREEMENT AND ONLY DONALD
PARIS AGREEMENT AND ONLY DONALD TRUMP WITHOUT A SHRED OF
TRUMP WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE, WITHOUT A SHRED OF
EVIDENCE, WITHOUT A SHRED OF FANTASTIC FACT PULLS OUT.
FANTASTIC FACT PULLS OUT. THESE ARE THE ISSUES I BELIEVE
THESE ARE THE ISSUES I BELIEVE WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE AND OVER
WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE AND OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, WHETHER
THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, WHETHER IT’S HEALTH CARE OR EDUCATION OR
IT’S HEALTH CARE OR EDUCATION OR OPPORTUNITY OR FAIR WAGES, WE
OPPORTUNITY OR FAIR WAGES, WE HAVE A MESSAGE.
HAVE A MESSAGE. AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT AND
AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT AND GET YOUNG INFORMATION ORGANIZE
GET YOUNG INFORMATION ORGANIZE AROUND IT.
AROUND IT. >> THE MEMOIR IS TITLED "EVERY
>> THE MEMOIR IS TITLED "EVERY DAY IS EXTRA."
DAY IS EXTRA." FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN
FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY.
KERRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND RICHARD HAAS THANK YOU AS
AND RICHARD HAAS THANK YOU AS WELL.
WELL. >> WE’LL BE REPLAYING YOUR
>> WE’LL BE REPLAYING YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY.
TESTIMONY TODAY. >> THE RATINGS WILL --
>> THE RATINGS WILL -- >> THAT’S RIGHT.
>> THAT’S RIGHT. >> YES.
>> YES. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. STILL AHEAD -- THANK YOU VERY
STILL AHEAD -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MUCH. STILL AHEAD FORMER VICE
STILL AHEAD FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HITS THE
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HITS THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND APPEARS TO
CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND APPEARS TO TAKE A SHOT AT HILLARY CLINTON.
